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Title: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 03, 2009, 11:19:31 PM
Tigers lock on Dustin Martin
Jay Clark | Reuters Sun Oct 04

RICHMOND is poised to partner midfield gem Trent Cotchin with another outstanding onballer from next month's draft.

Clean-skilled midfielder Dustin Martin has firmed as the Tigers' target after testing brilliantly at the AFL Draft Camp in Canberra this week.

The well-balanced onballer, who averaged 21 touches in the national championships, posted the second-fastest 20m sprint time and equal second-best kicking test score.

Richmond recruiting chief Francis Jackson said the club was unlikely to use its first-round pick to draft a top key forward, such as John Butcher.

"We think we did a fair bit of planning last year with our forwards, we took Jayden Post (No. 26) and Ty Vickery (No.8 ) with our first and second picks," Jackson said.

"By taking them that put us in a good position with our talls. It (key position) is certainly something we will look to bolster but we are confident they (Post and Vickery) are going to be good players."

He said it was critical the club got quality players with two picks (3 and 19) inside the top 20.

"We had a dismal year so we needed to get something out of it," Jackson said.

Essendon is also on the hunt for a young gun onballer.

Bombers football manager Paul Hamilton said: "That certainly is one of our priorities.

"This draft has got some good midfield depth and talent and we feel if we can get a couple of good quality mids, that is going to help us long-term."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-lock-on-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225782480791
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Harro80 on October 03, 2009, 11:21:50 PM
Tigers lock on Dustin Martin
Jay Clark | Reuters Sun Oct 04

RICHMOND is poised to partner midfield gem Trent Cotchin with another outstanding onballer from next month's draft.

Clean-skilled midfielder Dustin Martin has firmed as the Tigers' target after testing brilliantly at the AFL Draft Camp in Canberra this week.

The well-balanced onballer, who averaged 21 touches in the national championships, posted the second-fastest 20m sprint time and equal second-best kicking test score.

Richmond recruiting chief Francis Jackson said the club was unlikely to use its first-round pick to draft a top key forward, such as John Butcher.

"We think we did a fair bit of planning last year with our forwards, we took Jayden Post (No. 26) and Ty Vickery (No.8 ) with our first and second picks," Jackson said.

"By taking them that put us in a good position with our talls. It (key position) is certainly something we will look to bolster but we are confident they (Post and Vickery) are going to be good players."

He said it was critical the club got quality players with two picks (3 and 19) inside the top 20.

"We had a dismal year so we needed to get something out of it," Jackson said.

Essendon is also on the hunt for a young gun onballer.

Bombers football manager Paul Hamilton said: "That certainly is one of our priorities.

"This draft has got some good midfield depth and talent and we feel if we can get a couple of good quality mids, that is going to help us long-term."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-lock-on-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225782480791

JUST WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!!!!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Harro80 on October 03, 2009, 11:24:27 PM
Tigers lock on Dustin Martin
Jay Clark | Reuters Sun Oct 04

RICHMOND is poised to partner midfield gem Trent Cotchin with another outstanding onballer from next month's draft.

Clean-skilled midfielder Dustin Martin has firmed as the Tigers' target after testing brilliantly at the AFL Draft Camp in Canberra this week.

The well-balanced onballer, who averaged 21 touches in the national championships, posted the second-fastest 20m sprint time and equal second-best kicking test score.

Richmond recruiting chief Francis Jackson said the club was unlikely to use its first-round pick to draft a top key forward, such as John Butcher.

"We think we did a fair bit of planning last year with our forwards, we took Jayden Post (No. 26) and Ty Vickery (No.8 ) with our first and second picks," Jackson said.

"By taking them that put us in a good position with our talls. It (key position) is certainly something we will look to bolster but we are confident they (Post and Vickery) are going to be good players."

He said it was critical the club got quality players with two picks (3 and 19) inside the top 20.

"We had a dismal year so we needed to get something out of it," Jackson said.

Essendon is also on the hunt for a young gun onballer.

Bombers football manager Paul Hamilton said: "That certainly is one of our priorities.

"This draft has got some good midfield depth and talent and we feel if we can get a couple of good quality mids, that is going to help us long-term."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-lock-on-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225782480791

JUST WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!!!!  :thumbsup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjp4ROxszk
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on October 03, 2009, 11:43:33 PM
oh thank god, i like to see a certainty with that pick three. The kid is good, and should play first round. Although we need a key position i wouldn't mind seeing Bastinac's name getting called out at 19 either.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 04, 2009, 12:04:49 AM
Well its obvious Melbourne are going Scully and Trengove at 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on October 04, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
Well its obvious Melbourne are going Scully and Trengove at 1 and 2.

cant see them not picking them two.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 04, 2009, 05:17:46 AM
Dustin Martin:

D.O.B.: 26/06/1991
Height: 187cm
Weight: 86kg

Pics:
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/multimedia/images/full/481519.jpg (http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/multimedia/images/full/481519.jpg)
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/multimedia/images/full/512849.jpg (http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/multimedia/images/full/512849.jpg)

Video:
http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/08/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html (http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/08/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html)

Summary:
http://www.contestedfooty.com/2009/09/dustin-martin-2009-afl-draft-prospect.html

TAC Cup stats:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Dustin%20Martin&action=PSTATS&pID=189134810&client=0-3020-27630-0-8058929 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Dustin%20Martin&action=PSTATS&pID=189134810&client=0-3020-27630-0-8058929)

Articles:
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/general/pioneers-on-big-stage/1526160.aspx (http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/general/pioneers-on-big-stage/1526160.aspx)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 04, 2009, 08:36:44 AM
Very, very good news.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Danog on October 04, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
While I'd love to see Martin as a Tiger after the draft, there's nothing that says we'll pick him other than 'he tested well'.  So did Gary Rohan.  Are we picking him now?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 04, 2009, 03:13:19 PM
Firstly why does the RFC always feel the need to tell the world what we are doing beforehand  :scream. Let's hope Butcher doesn't take 15 marks and have 10 shots at goal at AFL level or we'll be laughed at again  :-\.

Anyway Martin reminds me of a mixture of Dal Santo in the way he moves and understands the game and Leon Cameron in that he kicks equally well on either foot. One thing I've noticed watching the above footage again is Martin is always either at or forward of the ball. How is Martin's defensive pressure? Does he run as hard back to defend as he does forward to win or receive the footy?

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on October 04, 2009, 04:21:40 PM
we are picking Martin based on his efforts at the Nathan Buckley inspired draft camp.

Ive seen the footage and yes he looks great but Butcher should be our go, which ive said from day one.

So many forwards have trouble kicking early but still come up with the goods when needed. Stuey Lowe was arguably the worst kick in the league and look how he changed his kicking around.

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast.





Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2009, 06:01:20 PM
we are picking Martin based on his efforts at the Nathan Buckley inspired draft camp.

Ive seen the footage and yes he looks great but Butcher should be our go, which ive said from day one.

So many forwards have trouble kicking early but still come up with the goods when needed. Stuey Lowe was arguably the worst kick in the league and look how he changed his kicking around.

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast.







Good to see there are some smart people at our great club........... unlike some of our so called supporters... :whistle Well done Richmond if it comes off and good on you Martin!!!!!!!!!! :clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2009, 06:04:11 PM

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast


Yep we need another player that can't kick to save their lives, thats what we need, if you were in the Thunderbirds you would have to be Brains.... ::)...................NOT!!



Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 04, 2009, 06:23:48 PM

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast


Yep we need another player that can't kick to save their lives, thats what we need, if you were in the Thunderbirds you would have to be Brains.... ::)...................NOT!!





Okay but we need Rhan Hooper, Nicoski, Joel McDonald and Mark Seaby because if we go to the draft we will have no experience in the squad and these blokes are reknowned for their precise kicking?  :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL



Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2009, 07:46:03 PM

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast


Yep we need another player that can't kick to save their lives, thats what we need, if you were in the Thunderbirds you would have to be Brains.... ::)...................NOT!!





Okay but we need Rhan Hooper, Nicoski, Joel McDonald and Mark Seaby because if we go to the draft we will have no experience in the squad and these blokes are reknowned for their precise kicking?  :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL





Comments from the super coach... :whistle :bow
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 04, 2009, 09:02:31 PM
It makes you wonder how much psychological warfare for want of a better expression goes on from clubs about various draftees to try and get them to slip down the draft order to their pick or build up other kids who a club may have no interest in. Rich was bagged mercilessly last year about having no development left in him, no X factor, and he couldn't break a tag. It was utter BS. Cotch likewise was bagged for not being able to break a tag and being an outside player. Joel Selwood's body wouldn't stand up to AFL after 5 years. Mitch Clark and Buddy had bad attitudes who would head home to WA. None of them had great U18 Champs but they've showed their worth at AFL level and why as juniors they were rated so highly.

Butcher kicked 32.19 this year from 11 TAC Cup games. Hardly the stats of a hack goalkicker. If we rubbished key forwards because of the occasional yips in front of the big sticks we would call Buddy, Richo, N.Riewoldt, J.Brown all duds when in fact quality big key forwards are matchwinners.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 04, 2009, 09:07:02 PM
You're right WAT its a forum, but if you are prepared to make suggestions which is your right I or anybody can make a comment on those suggestions which is our right. It's nothing personal to you if I don't agree with them. I don't know you from a bar of soap or anybody on this forum from that matter. You would hardly call my responses offensive to you or anybody.

As for me "Supercoach? " No not at all just presenting an answer to your suggestions and those suggestions I wish to talk about. If your skin is not that thick and I strike a raw nerve with my responses to your suggestions then so be it. If psychologically you crave acceptance and disagreeing with you prevents you from attaining this then I suggest you look for spiritual enlightenment to fulfill you and the rest will eventually fall into place. Just really think about what you are presenting. Rewording the same question with a different name is not putting anything out there.

You need to see a shrink WAT and get some thicker skin if you want to present us with your thoughts and then cry foul when you are not agreed upon. Hence your ideas are so revered on Big Footy and Punt Rd End. :lol :rollin :lol

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on October 04, 2009, 09:20:45 PM
It makes you wonder how much psychological warfare for want of a better expression goes on from clubs about various draftees to try and get them to slip down the draft order to their pick or build up other kids who a club may have no interest in. Rich was bagged mercilessly last year about having no development left in him, no X factor, and he couldn't break a tag. It was utter BS. Cotch likewise was bagged for not being able to break a tag and being an outside player. Joel Selwood's body wouldn't stand up to AFL after 5 years. Mitch Clark and Buddy had bad attitudes who would head home to WA. None of them had great U18 Champs but they've showed their worth at AFL level and why as juniors they were rated so highly.

Butcher kicked 32.19 this year from 11 TAC Cup games. Hardly the stats of a hack goalkicker. If we rubbished key forwards because of the occasional yips in front of the big sticks we would call Buddy, Richo, N.Riewoldt, J.Brown all duds when in fact quality big key forwards are matchwinners.

Its exactly what i have been saying all along but on this forum Butcher will always remain a terrible kick.

Too much emphasis has been on these bloody draft camps. Nathan Buckley says if you dont hit the target then there is something wrong. I even heard roosy i think say he wasn't a fan of this testing.

A player can be the best player all year in the TAC Cup but have an average draft camp then slide out of the top 10.

Butcher will be that guy this year but i just get the feeling it will come back to bite us.

We need to do everything we can to upgrade that Pick 19.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2009, 09:26:26 PM
You're right WAT its a forum, but if you are prepared to make suggestions which is your right I or anybody can make a comment on those suggestions which is our right. It's nothing personal to you if I don't agree with them. I don't know you from a bar of soap or anybody on this forum from that matter. You would hardly call my responses offensive to you or anybody.

As for me "Supercoach? " No not at all just presenting an answer to your suggestions and those suggestions I wish to talk about. If your skin is not that thick and I strike a raw nerve with my responses to your suggestions then so be it. If psychologically you crave acceptance and disagreeing with you prevents you from attaining this then I suggest you look for spiritual enlightenment to fulfill you and the rest will eventually fall into place. Just really think about what you are presenting. Rewording the same question with a different name is not putting anything out there.

You need to see a shrink WAT and get some thicker skin if you want to present us with your thoughts and then cry foul when you are not agreed upon. Hence your ideas are so revered on Big Footy and Punt Rd End. :lol :rollin :lol



 :sleep :sleep :sleep. If you pass on the name of your shrink to me I will see what I can do!! You did not put an answer to my question you told me to leave it alone, you told me, that is not a forum that is an order!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 04, 2009, 09:41:58 PM
Hide your apparent lack of footy knowledge by trying to present an intelligent argument. :whistle
I can honestly say you are the biggest fwit on this forum. All you do is talk crap. Your suggestions are as lame as they are stupid. You are so detatched from reality footy wise I wonder whether you actually know the game. :wallywink
Nevertheless I hope when you have your snooze tonight Richmond does pick up Hooper McDonald and every Eagle and Docker out of contract beacause that's how close to reality it will become.FACT. Won't help RFC won't do anything for us, but only an idiot like you would actually mention it. :help
Have a good night.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 04, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
Let's leave the personal squabbles out of the posting people and stick to the topic ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on October 04, 2009, 10:13:39 PM
ooooh i do like pointless passionate sniping!!!

My thoughts are that if you have a raft of talented midfeilders you will go alot further than having one mega talented KPP (and Butcher from all accounts is not mega talented). Geelong won this year with a so so forward line and one of the better midfields ever assembled. You watch the development Post, Jack & Vickery when they are getting the ball delivered lace out by Delidio & co.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 04, 2009, 10:16:54 PM
Overflowing hamburger theory CV.   :thumbsup

Build it and they will come.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2009, 10:17:14 PM
Hide your apparent lack of footy knowledge by trying to present an intelligent argument. :whistle
I can honestly say you are the biggest fwit on this forum. All you do is talk crap. Your suggestions are as lame as they are stupid. You are so detatched from reality footy wise I wonder whether you actually know the game. :wallywink
Nevertheless I hope when you have your snooze tonight Richmond does pick up Hooper McDonald and every Eagle and Docker out of contract beacause that's how close to reality it will become.FACT. Won't help RFC won't do anything for us, but only an idiot like you would actually mention it. :help
Have a good night.


Yeak ok, I won't lower myself, enjoy your night too..
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on October 04, 2009, 10:26:19 PM
Martin has been my first selection for some time now. I actually rate him higher than Trengove based on his disposal skills, core strength (breaks tackles), poise in tight situations, ability to win his own ball and overhead ability. Based purely on the footage I have seen, the only pluses Trengove has on Martin is his leadership ability (Capt of SA) and defensive mindset. I have not seen any evidence that Martin does not have a defensive side to his game but can only go on what I have seen on the clips so if someone has seen either player in person please tell me otherwise.

Either way I believe the defensive/team-orientated elements will be drummed into all new recruits and existing players alike where-as offensive skills are much harder to teach.

I will be very pleased if we get Martin but we need to make sure we get the best KPF with our next choice.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 04, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
It makes you wonder how much psychological warfare for want of a better expression goes on from clubs about various draftees to try and get them to slip down the draft order to their pick or build up other kids who a club may have no interest in. Rich was bagged mercilessly last year about having no development left in him, no X factor, and he couldn't break a tag. It was utter BS. Cotch likewise was bagged for not being able to break a tag and being an outside player. Joel Selwood's body wouldn't stand up to AFL after 5 years. Mitch Clark and Buddy had bad attitudes who would head home to WA. None of them had great U18 Champs but they've showed their worth at AFL level and why as juniors they were rated so highly.

Butcher kicked 32.19 this year from 11 TAC Cup games. Hardly the stats of a hack goalkicker. If we rubbished key forwards because of the occasional yips in front of the big sticks we would call Buddy, Richo, N.Riewoldt, J.Brown all duds when in fact quality big key forwards are matchwinners.

You're spot on MT. Absolutely happens.

But you can't predict the future and only draft on what is in front of view. Butcher has been in the system 2 years and has shown the highs and lows. Martin has shown all this year and shown plenty.

With Melbourne picking Scully and Trengrove our pol for pick 3 is:

Martin
Butcher
Cunnington
Moribito
Lucas

Can't see anyone else been taken ahead of all of that group..

We can't afford another Oakly Nicholls.

Butcher could flop and history suggests the Tiger faithful are inpatient, he's nervous in front fo goal and could get eaten up by the pressure of it all. 1.7 in a Grand Final suggest he isn't an Ice Man.

In fairness he's been over analyzed but there are no flaws in Martins game. He's teh best bet to hold the stigma of Number 3 pick.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 04, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Martin has been my first selection for some time now. I actually rate him higher than Trengove based on his disposal skills, core strength (breaks tackles), poise in tight situations, ability to win his own ball and overhead ability. Based purely on the footage I have seen, the only pluses Trengove has on Martin is his leadership ability (Capt of SA) and defensive mindset. I have not seen any evidence that Martin does not have a defensive side to his game but can only go on what I have seen on the clips so if someone has seen either player in person please tell me otherwise.

Either way I believe the defensive/team-orientated elements will be drummed into all new recruits and existing players alike where-as offensive skills are much harder to teach.

I will be very pleased if we get Martin but we need to make sure we get the best KPF with our next choice.

Stripes

I agree Stripes.

Trengrove however will captain Melbourne in 6 years time, Martin wouldn't. Trengrove just oozes out leadership very very Ricciuto/Buckleyesk.

Martin is our man.

Deledio, Cotchin, Foley, Martin, Tambling, Collins and Jackson is our midfield that can deliver it to Humphrey B Bear for all I care. There is no point having greats like Matthew Richardson or Brendon Fevola up forward for 10 years if you have the likes of Clinton King, Tim Fleming and Jordan McMahon kicking balls into the forward 50..
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on October 04, 2009, 10:42:23 PM
we are picking Martin based on his efforts at the Nathan Buckley inspired draft camp.

Ive seen the footage and yes he looks great but Butcher should be our go, which ive said from day one.

So many forwards have trouble kicking early but still come up with the goods when needed. Stuey Lowe was arguably the worst kick in the league and look how he changed his kicking around.

We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think Jack R and Morton are going to do it on their own. We need another forward and fast.







we're not pickin martin based on his draft camp results.  it's the media's doing.  we already knew martin could play very well before draft camp.  his results were simply the icing on the cake.  even if he didn't do so well in the sprint, we would still be very high on him.  as for the kicking test, there was no doubthe woudl do well in that so it ain't a deciding factor.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 05, 2009, 02:25:17 AM
Trengrove is my preference but Martin looks a solid if unspectacular choice.
Just hope we don't play it too safe and avoid missing a match winner.
Unfortunately given our recent poor recruiting efforts we'll go for the sure bet when someone like Morabito could be an absolute star.
Certainly won't scream if we take Martin though, looks like he can play at least.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 05:00:34 AM
Scully, Trengove and Martin should all be 200 game players. So whoever we get isnt a problem. One thing I like about Martin is that he is a bigger type midfielder and will complement our existing group really well. Our draft wont be made of who is our first pick. It will be determined by if we can trade out any players and get picks and who we pick in the 2nd and 3rd round as well as who we draft with the picks we get from other clubs for our traded out players.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 06, 2009, 01:41:49 AM
Just looking at the footage of this Martin kid again and he will really complement our midfield no doubt about it. He is also ready to go come round 1 and with a pre-season behind him and Cuz, Cotch, Lids, Jackson and Tambling we will have a really exciting midfield......... What is it about 170 odd days until round 1... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on October 06, 2009, 10:06:39 AM
Just looking at the footage of this Martin kid again and he will really complement our midfield no doubt about it. He is also ready to go come round 1 and with a pre-season behind him and Cuz, Cotch, Lids, Jackson and Tambling we will have a really exciting midfield......... What is it about 170 odd days until round 1... :thumbsup

Don't forget Foley WA Tiger!  :cheers

Jackson will never be a star midfielder but has the athleticism and size to make a difference around stoppages for us at the moment. Just lacks the skills to fit into that group in the future I feel. Maybe White could break into the role?

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 06, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
Just looking at the footage of this Martin kid again and he will really complement our midfield no doubt about it. He is also ready to go come round 1 and with a pre-season behind him and Cuz, Cotch, Lids, Jackson and Tambling we will have a really exciting midfield......... What is it about 170 odd days until round 1... :thumbsup

Don't forget Foley WA Tiger!  :cheers

Jackson will never be a star midfielder but has the athleticism and size to make a difference around stoppages for us at the moment. Just lacks the skills to fit into that group in the future I feel. Maybe White could break into the role?

Stripes

Andy Collins  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 06, 2009, 10:38:37 AM
What I've seen of Martin I like a lot.

In many ways he is the safe bet. What we haven't considered is the rules committee and trends of the game. KP forwards have been slaughtered with the hands in the back rule and also the amount of spare men back clogging up space. There are less genuine match winning KP forwards than ever and in this respect Butcher is a risk because the bar is so much higher. If the ever unpredictable AFL rules committee wanted to make the game more attractive to watch and go back to the days of marking forwards and higher scores than all of a sudden blokes like Butcher are a must.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 06, 2009, 10:58:36 AM

KP forwards have been slaughtered with the hands in the back rule ......

How so?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 06, 2009, 11:04:06 AM

KP forwards have been slaughtered with the hands in the back rule ......

How so?

Standard part of any KP forwards repertoire until the AFL decided to outlaw it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on October 06, 2009, 11:05:20 AM
Just looking at the footage of this Martin kid again and he will really complement our midfield no doubt about it. He is also ready to go come round 1 and with a pre-season behind him and Cuz, Cotch, Lids, Jackson and Tambling we will have a really exciting midfield......... What is it about 170 odd days until round 1... :thumbsup

hell yes!! A preseason with a comfortable and talkitive Cuz could only help the boys aswell. I am all for picking safe 200 game early draft pics, leave the risks to 5th and 6th rounds. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 06, 2009, 11:07:42 AM
Just looking at the footage of this Martin kid again and he will really complement our midfield no doubt about it. He is also ready to go come round 1 and with a pre-season behind him and Cuz, Cotch, Lids, Jackson and Tambling we will have a really exciting midfield......... What is it about 170 odd days until round 1... :thumbsup

Don't forget Foley WA Tiger!  :cheers

Jackson will never be a star midfielder but has the athleticism and size to make a difference around stoppages for us at the moment. Just lacks the skills to fit into that group in the future I feel. Maybe White could break into the role?

Stripes
 

Whoops forgot about Foley and Collins....... please not false hope again, couple of years  :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on October 06, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 06, 2009, 12:31:35 PM

KP forwards have been slaughtered with the hands in the back rule ......

How so?

Standard part of any KP forwards repertoire until the AFL decided to outlaw it.

Nup.  No players, including key forwards, were ever allowed to use a hand in the back up until the early 90's when the insidious practice crept in, along with wrestling.  Stephen Silvagni and Alistair Lynch were the pioneers and past masters at it.  Up until then the players had to use their own body strength and skills to time a leap, bump or positioning and it was a skill as important as any other.  When scragging and pushing became the vogue it removed one of the best skills from the game and with it went the era of high goalkicking full forwards.  Lockett, Ablett, Dunstall, Quinlan, Roach, Templeton, Hudson, McKenna, Wade etc etc - all high goal scoring key forwards and played most or all of their careers in the day of no pushing in the back.  After Lockett retired no goal kicker kicked a ton until the AFL decided to play the game by the existing rule (there was no rule change here - just a re-emphasis on the existing rule) and then Buddy kicks a ton.  Best day's work Adolph and his mates have done - the game is a far better spectacle and test of skills for it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
14.1 in the beep test for Martin

http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/50705/draft+camp+review+pt+1/Default.aspx#VideoPlayerB
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 06, 2009, 02:02:53 PM

Nup.  No players, including key forwards, were ever allowed to use a hand in the back up until the early 90's when the insidious practice crept in, along with wrestling.

When scragging and pushing became the vogue it removed one of the best skills from the game and with it went the era of high goalkicking full forwards.  Lockett, Ablett, Dunstall, Quinlan, Roach, Templeton, Hudson, McKenna, Wade etc etc - all high goal scoring key forwards and played most or all of their careers in the day of no pushing in the back


I've only been watching footy 20 years which is not as long as some but its been there as long as I remember. I think there is a subtle difference between a push and putting your hands up to maintain position. A push has always been a push, but the AFL now has zero tolerance on any hands which I think has disadvantaged forwards greatly.

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 Best day's work Adolph and his mates have done - the game is a far better spectacle and test of skills for it.

Most people in footy would disagree I feel. 6 coaches this season voted it the worst rules change the AFL has made. One voted it the best rule change.   Buckley voted against it as players rep. Walls and Aker both came out against it. I think general perception in footy circles was that it was a bad change.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 06, 2009, 03:21:25 PM

I've only been watching footy 20 years which is not as long as some but its been there as long as I remember.

And that's about when it all started - early 90's is about 20 years ago.

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I think there is a subtle difference between a push and putting your hands up to maintain position. A push has always been a push, but the AFL now has zero tolerance on any hands which I think has disadvantaged forwards greatly.


Putting your hands in the back of a player was always illegal whether it was a push or to stop the player coming back further or just to hold your position.  The skill was (is) in timing and using your body - the smallest player can out-position the biggest player by timing and subtle use of the arms and/or hips, whereas in the wrestlemania that evolved it was just a case of the biggest gorilla or sneakiest cheat would win out.  It was only the slackness of the AFL that allowed the blight to creep in and become accepted.  It promoted pushing, scragging, shoving, wrestling and reduced the spectacle of our great game significantly.

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 Best day's work Adolph and his mates have done - the game is a far better spectacle and test of skills for it.
.................
Most people in footy would disagree I feel. 6 coaches this season voted it the worst rules change the AFL has made. One voted it the best rule change.   Buckley voted against it as players rep. Walls and Aker both came out against it. I think general perception in footy circles was that it was a bad change.

The rule didn't change - it remained what it always was and just got 're-applied' how it always had been in the past and always should have been.  Of course modern players would speak out against it - they have never known any different and would have some fear of a skill they have never had to learn.  It is the most refreshing thing to have come out of football in the last 10 years - a return to a more skills oriented game.  And regardless of the right/wrong of the rule interpretation - I would argue that it has done more to bring key forwards into the game than anything else.  The old interpretation was a backman's best friend - made his job soooo much easier by just having to move his leading opponent under the ball with his hands.  Sorry Jake, I can't agree with you on this one.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 06, 2009, 03:24:13 PM
Sorry Jake, I can't agree with you on this one.

Agree to disagree and back to Dustin Martin..
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on October 06, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
Uummmm Smokey, one obvious point in this discussion that has yet to be raised....How many umpires are on the field now compared to 30 years ago?? That surely must have some impact.I've been watching the game for almost 40 years and I remember Poor old Deller, Smith & co would always struggle to get into a good enough position to pay hands in the back. I recall it happening regularly but free kicks were just never paid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 06, 2009, 04:20:39 PM
Uummmm Smokey, one obvious point in this discussion that has yet to be raised....How many umpires are on the field now compared to 30 years ago?? That surely must have some impact.I've been watching the game for almost 40 years and I remember Poor old Deller, Smith & co would always struggle to get into a good enough position to pay hands in the back. I recall it happening regularly but free kicks were just never paid.

Two field umpires were brought in during the 70's and the game was a hell of a lot slower back then.  They didn't miss them any more then than they do now - even the bush umpires in the leagues I played would get most of them right.   The whole 'hands in the back' scenario was different - players just didn't try it very often because it was like any other rule - if you put your hands in your opponents back for whatever reason you stood a good chance of giving away a free kick.  The players had the natural skills (developed because that was the rule and how the game was played) to use their bodies and timing - it was second nature.

Anyway, as Jake said......back to Dustin Martin.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 06, 2009, 08:12:38 PM
Starting to like the sound of 'Aston' Martin.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on October 13, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 13, 2009, 11:05:53 PM
The fact that other clubs are showing a keen interest in him makes me hope more and more we get him. This kid seems a real keeper. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on October 13, 2009, 11:33:53 PM
he has class!

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 13, 2009, 11:41:14 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if the Dee's rolled over and took Trengove & Martin????
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 14, 2009, 12:26:10 AM
I could sleep at night with Tom Scully at Richmond
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on October 14, 2009, 12:50:44 AM
I could sleep at night with Tom Scully at Richmond

i wouldn't sleep!

 ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
I was wondering whether Scully could slide out of the top 2 picks....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: big tone on October 14, 2009, 11:21:41 PM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2009, 11:38:53 PM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 15, 2009, 12:14:02 AM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.

Hopefully he slides to 19. :pray I get the feeling he'll slide too and the only team in the top 10 selections to pick him up may be the Swans who will be in need of a Key Forward(s).
I'm sure there won't be too many complaining about Martin and Butcher becoming Tigers. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tigersalive on October 15, 2009, 12:15:58 AM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.

Hopefully he slides to 19. :pray I get the feeling he'll slide too and the only team in the top 10 selections to pick him up may be the Swans who will be in need of a Key Forward(s).
I'm sure there won't be too many complaining about Martin and Butcher becoming Tigers. :thumbsup

Butcher won't slip outside the 10.  And 19 is laughable for a kid with such talent.  No chance.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 15, 2009, 12:21:50 AM
Deep down I know this TA hence I put a pray smiley at that stage of my post.
Me thinks he'll go to the Swans at pick 6, but it just makes me cringe that we could have got the extra pick had we not won meaningless games against Essendon and Melbourne and addressed a midfield gun with possibly another pick going to a Key Position. Would have given us so much more flexibility. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 15, 2009, 12:23:15 AM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.

Hopefully he slides to 19. :pray I get the feeling he'll slide too and the only team in the top 10 selections to pick him up may be the Swans who will be in need of a Key Forward(s).
I'm sure there won't be too many complaining about Martin and Butcher becoming Tigers. :thumbsup

You never know do you TB, the draft that yeilded us Deledio and Tambling was a surprise as we had Deledio and Roughead lined up as our first two picks, it was penned in from all accounts and look what happened.

You just never know... ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 15, 2009, 12:40:14 AM
You never know do you TB, the draft that yeilded us Deledio and Tambling was a surprise as we had Deledio and Roughead lined up as our first two picks, it was penned in from all accounts and look what happened.

You just never know... ;)

Rance is a good example. Touted by most as a top 10 player who slid to 18 due to knocks on his kicking.
Butcher's disposal issues might also see him slide a little but I can't see him getting to 19 in a draft as weak as this.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 15, 2009, 12:48:40 AM
You never know do you TB, the draft that yeilded us Deledio and Tambling was a surprise as we had Deledio and Roughead lined up as our first two picks, it was penned in from all accounts and look what happened.

You just never know... ;)

Rance is a good example. Touted by most as a top 10 player who slid to 18 due to knocks on his kicking.
Butcher's disposal issues might also see him slide a little but I can't see him getting to 19 in a draft as weak as this.

Yeah look I can't see him sliding that far either but hope we have,  really after the top 3-4 IMO the rest could go at any pick. It will all hinge on clubs needs after about the first 8-12 or so picks.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on October 15, 2009, 08:00:17 AM
You never know do you TB, the draft that yeilded us Deledio and Tambling was a surprise as we had Deledio and Roughead lined up as our first two picks, it was penned in from all accounts and look what happened.

You just never know... ;)

Rance is a good example. Touted by most as a top 10 player who slid to 18 due to knocks on his kicking.
Butcher's disposal issues might also see him slide a little but I can't see him getting to 19 in a draft as weak as this.

Nothing wrong with Butchers kicking infact his got a great kick on him
He has his days like everyone else but can gaurentee the wind conditions aint so great on them days.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tigersalive on October 15, 2009, 08:10:36 AM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.

Hopefully he slides to 19. :pray I get the feeling he'll slide too and the only team in the top 10 selections to pick him up may be the Swans who will be in need of a Key Forward(s).
I'm sure there won't be too many complaining about Martin and Butcher becoming Tigers. :thumbsup

You never know do you TB, the draft that yeilded us Deledio and Tambling was a surprise as we had Deledio and Roughead lined up as our first two picks, it was penned in from all accounts and look what happened.

You just never know... ;)

Yeah but to be fair that was between 4 players who were in the top 5 and stayed in the area despite being scrambled in how they were chosen, here you're talking about a top 5 player, slipping to 19.

You do never know, but this is faaaaaaaar beyond the Deledio/Tambling/Roughead scramble.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 15, 2009, 09:15:07 AM
There is no way that the Swans would overlook Butcher twice (6 and 14) and the Demons 4 times (1,2,11 and 18) for him to slip to us at 19 . . . absolutely ZERO!

Having said that, I pray I'm wrong because he will be a superstar  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 15, 2009, 04:15:20 PM
A post from the Melbourne BF Board so make of it what you will:

Firstly this is not what i want to happen, nor do i believe it will, but..
I rececntly spoke to the uncle of Dustin Martin, who has really impressed at the draft camp. Now his uncle is like his co manager and has been taking calls from a lot of clubs regarding him. Richmond have told him that they will take him at pick number 3. However is uncle said he doesnt know whether he'd rather him go to the tigers or he dees. I quizzed him on the dees thing, and he said melb have contacted him saying that they may yet take him with our pick 2.

For me, i rekon that pick 1 scully and pick 2 trengrove are a clear standout, however, the club must have been impressed with martins draft camp results to be calling him saying that we may take him,

Personally, if the first two names read out in the draft arent scully and trengrove, id be fair dissapointed, as these 2 players are ready made footballers, who a clearly a bit ahead of the rest. No offence to martin of course.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15989061&postcount=1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 15, 2009, 05:07:29 PM
This may make a few on here sleep a little easier over the next couple of months, i hear our recruiters really liked Martin even before Trengrove had the finals series he had. At least it makes me think that they have done their homework this year interms of young kids. I just hope they get the next few picks right.
We need a change of luck at Tigerland!!!!  :gotigers

We do need a change of luck and hopefully the players coming in including Martin will add to the good luck factor. I have been in for Martin as soon as I thought Trengove would go to Melbourne at 1 or 2. Lets hope the Dees don't pull a swifty on us and take him (Martin) at 2. I also think Butcher will really slide, maybe even out of the top 10... IMO.

Scully / Trengrove / Martin

any would will fine
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on October 15, 2009, 07:15:57 PM
Perhaps they are scared of the go home factor
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gordon Bennett on October 15, 2009, 07:55:37 PM
Perhaps they are scared of the go home factor
yeah, Scully might go home to dandenong.:)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 16, 2009, 02:39:59 AM
Perhaps they are scared of the go home factor
They'll go for Scully and Trengove but the Dees did get burnt when they lost Scott Thompson to Adelaide.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on October 16, 2009, 03:06:38 AM



He has his days like everyone else but can gaurentee the wind conditions aint so great on them days.

wtf does that even mean ?

That he,just like every other prik,kicks wayward on windy days ?

wtf ?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on October 16, 2009, 09:36:57 AM



He has his days like everyone else but can gaurentee the wind conditions aint so great on them days.

wtf does that even mean ?

That he,just like every other prik,kicks wayward on windy days ?

wtf ?

Yep
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Welcome Dustin Martin to Tigerland .....

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MELBOURNE recruiters flew to Adelaide to meet Jack Trengove last week, giving the first real indication he will be taken high in next month’s AFL Draft.

Victorian Tom Scully is the other recruit expected to go in the top two, the East Torrens Messenger reports.

Melbourne recruiting manager Barry Prendergast said the pair’s "work rate" and "big engines" set them apart from the rest of a draft that could throw up a few surprises in the top 20.

"Obviously Trengove and Scully is what everyone in the industry predicts.

"There’s no doubt they’re around the mark."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-give-jack-trengove-hint/story-e6frf9jf-1225791384285
http://east-torrens-messenger.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/jacks-our-man/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on October 26, 2009, 04:00:29 PM
 :thumbsup

Welcome Dustin Martin!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 31, 2009, 07:04:45 PM
Here's more video of Martin.....

Dustin Martin
D.O.B:   26-Jun-1991
Club:   Bendigo Pioneers
State:   VIC
Height:   187cm
Weight:   86kg
Position:   Midfielder

Attacking on-baller with great balance and ball winning ability. Averaged 21 possessions per game for Vic Country at NAB AFL U18 Championships, winning All-Australian honours. Good skills on both sides of this body. From Castlemaine FC.

Video: http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=115905 (http://offseasondraft.championdata.com/afl_off_season_draft/offSeasonDraft/player_profile.jsp?player_id=115905)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 04, 2009, 01:43:14 PM
Top four draft picks seem set
afl.com.au
By Matt Burgan | Wed 04 November, 2009

THE TOP four of this year's NAB AFL Draft appears settled.

With just 22 days until the 24th AFL Draft, the names Tom Scully (Dandenong Stingrays), Jack Trengove (Sturt), Dustin Martin (Bendigo Pioneers) and Anthony Morabito (Peel Thunder) seem likely to fill the first four spots.

Melbourne has the first two picks, with Scully and Trengove almost certain to become Demons.

Although Scully firmed as the No.1 pick during the 2009 NAB AFL under-18 championships - and still remains the hot tip - the brilliant form of Trengove in this year's senior SANFL finals could see the South Australian shift from No.2 to No.1.

Regardless of who is No.1 and No.2, it will be a massive surprise if Scully and Trengove are not Demons by the conclusion of the meeting on Thursday November 26.

Richmond has the third pick, with Martin strongly linked to Punt Rd.

He has continued to rise up the pecking order throughout the year and this was only further enhanced with his outstanding efforts at the NAB AFL Draft Camp in late September/early October.

Rounding out the quarter is Morabito, the run-and-carry midfielder and versatile 190cm tall who has been likened to Sydney Swans star Adam Goodes.

Some recruiters believe the Western Australian has the qualities to be a No.1 draft pick, but his destination appears to be Fremantle.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86609/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mat073 on November 05, 2009, 11:59:05 AM
Dustin Martin is already 86 kgs ?....is that correct or am I dreaming ?

That would make him one of our biggest midfielders already.

Im guessing he will go very close to playing Rd 1.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on November 05, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
Dustin Martin is already 86 kgs ?....is that correct or am I dreaming ?

That would make him one of our biggest midfielders already.

Im guessing he will go very close to playing Rd 1.

afldraftinfo.com has him at 88kg
 
http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/10/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html
Height: 186cm
Weight: 88kg
Which is 2cm shorter and the same wt as Lids
I love the idea of a ready made footballer, not sure how accurate that is though.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on November 05, 2009, 01:16:45 PM
Let's see how strong he is at AFL level. He has been used to playing against smaller midfielder opponents at junior level so he will take time to get used to the pace and strength needed for the level. Rich found it much easier to transition given he had already been playing against elite adults.

Regardless, I am impressed by both his size, recorded speed, skill level of both sides and furiousity at the contest. Looking forward to seeing him in action next year with Lids and a injury free Cotchin.  :thumbsup

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 05, 2009, 02:35:39 PM
The more this drags out the more I am hating it, I have this funny feeling that the Dee's are going to surprise everyone and take him at 2 after Trengove, just a feeling and I hope it does not come off. :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 05, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
The more this drags out the more I am hating it, I have this funny feeling that the Dee's are going to surprise everyone and take him at 2 after Trengove, just a feeling and I hope it does not come off. :pray
I too get that feeling WAT. To mind both Trengrove and Scully have a question mark over them -  Scully's knee and Trengrove has that dreaded 'go home once hes made a name for himself' factor, both of which must have at least crossed the minds of the Dees recruitment team.
I too hope we are wrong  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on November 05, 2009, 04:02:38 PM
Stop worrying you too. Scully and Trengrove are a given for Melbourne due to their constant standout form over a long period. Trengove also has great leadership qualities. If Melbourne overlooked either the backlash if they continued to build on the form they have produced over the last couple of years would be significant. While Martin is very close he has not had the same opportunities to shine as Scully and Trengove has due to having to shoulder more of the responsibility in a weaker team - sounds like our young stars doesn't it!

All indicators are is that the decision has been made from Melbourne, us and Fremantle so I would be surprized (and a little annoyed) if it didn't pan out the way it is predicted.

There is very few surprizes now days with the early picks...

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mat073 on November 05, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
To WAT & Al ....just check out the site "demonland" and "demonology".To say they are getting orgasmic over the prospect of Scully & Trengrove is a massive under statement......They even have a Scully/Trengrove countdown clock.

I had a quick look and Its like they have never heard of Martin.

In the end does it really matter..... The top 3 are all guns.

Dont worry.....be happy.


Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on November 05, 2009, 06:11:36 PM
The more this drags out the more I am hating it, I have this funny feeling that the Dee's are going to surprise everyone and take him at 2 after Trengove, just a feeling and I hope it does not come off. :pray
Not something I'll be losing sleep over
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on November 05, 2009, 06:15:13 PM

In the end does it really matter..... The top 3 are all guns.

Dont worry.....be happy.


exactly. I would welcome scully with open arms in the unlikely event he slides.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 05, 2009, 06:18:49 PM

In the end does it really matter..... The top 3 are all guns.

Dont worry.....be happy.


exactly. I would welcome scully with open arms in the unlikely event he slides.
I think anyone would. Just the nature of his knee injury has to put a question over his long term durability.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on November 05, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
I would be orgasmic with Martin.
I would be ecstatic with Trengove.
It will be terrific if we get Scully.
I can't be more specific.  :gotigers

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 05, 2009, 09:24:53 PM
To WAT & Al ....just check out the site "demonland" and "demonology".To say they are getting orgasmic over the prospect of Scully & Trengrove is a massive under statement......They even have a Scully/Trengrove countdown clock.

I had a quick look and Its like they have never heard of Martin.

In the end does it really matter..... The top 3 are all guns.

Dont worry.....be happy.




Tambling was as good as gone to the Hawks too and.........
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 07, 2009, 03:38:28 AM
Now I am a little more worried........ I just wished the hell they would stop the Martin articles and pump up Scully and Trengove. :scream


Dustin Martin's born to play AFL
Mark Robinson From: Herald Sun November 07, 2009

DUSTIN Martin says he was born to play AFL. While some could assume the highly rated teen is arrogant, he's just a confident kid, writes Mark Robinson.

THERE'S a fine line between confidence, arrogance and reality, and Dustin Martin doesn't seem to be ruffled by any moniker.

The probable No. 3 pick - which points him at Richmond - is so immersed in what he wants and his self-belief, that his philosophy may well raise eyebrows even before he plays an AFL game.

This guy, who was named centre in the All Australian under-18 team, is young, brutally honest and a school leaver after Year 9, partly because his parents split and dad was living in Sydney.

He talks slowly and softly about his footy, bluntly about his life and when he tells you he believes he was born to play AFL, it's difficult not to tell him there is no such a thing.

Whatever generation we are up to, say hello to Gen Next.

"I reckon I was born to play AFL," he said.

Bit arrogant?

"I don't think I'm arrogant at all, like, it's just something I want. I want to play AFL, that's all I want to do.

"I just want it so bad. I don't care where I play, as a long as I get the opportunity."

He has spoken to 12 clubs, and not Melbourne, which doesn't surprise him.

He, like everyone, expects Tom Scully and Jack Trengove to go No. 1 and No. 2.

He has met Richmond twice, before and during the draft camp.

"I think they're pretty keen," he said.

"No one has said they'll take me yet. If it's Richmond, it will be awesome, over the moon."

If it is Richmond, the expectations on him - as they are on Trent Cotchin - will be, well, Richmond-like: Please, please, deliver.

He says he is not daunted. "They've got a lot of young players coming through, I reckon it would be unreal to help the club get up and going. If I get there, I'll work as hard as I can pre-season and get as fit as I can.

"And if I get really fit I reckon I'm a chance to play first game. I've got the ability, I just have to work on my fitness, get super-fit.

"I really want to do this. I'll just do my best and do what the coaches think; I'm not better than anyone else; I'll just work as hard as I can for the team."

Martin was born and bred in Castlemaine.

His dad Shane is a Maori who arrived in Australia when he was 21, and played at Harcourt and then Kangaroo Flat in the Bendigo league.

"He (Dad) wasn't any good at footy, and I don't think mum's (Kathy) played any sport," he said, wondering where the talent came from.

As for Martin's desire for the contest, which has wowed recruiters, that comes from the old man.

"When he 0used to play footy he reckons he was a real hard nut, he reckons he used to clean blokes up," he laughs.

"Everyone knew him as Kiwi. Apparently in his first game he kicked a goal for the opposition because he didn't know what he was doing."

While playing under-16s footy, Martin and Castlemaine High learnt they had irreconcilable differences, forcing dad to move him to Sydney.

"I was playing up at school. I didn't like school, so dad made me move up with him to pull me into line a little bit," he said.

"I just wasn't a fan of school. I hated it, but I regret it now, I wish I had stayed at school."

His future is footy and personal training, in which he has certificate three and is chasing certificate four.

At the draft camp, where clubs probe and poke players like laboratory rats, Martin expected questions about his schooling.

But not what Port Adelaide delivered.

"I think I was talking to Port Adelaide and they asked me about when I left school and stuff like that," he said.

"Sometimes I'm a little bit embarrassed to say I left that early, but, yeah, Port Adelaide asked me if I was dumb and I said no."

They used word dumb?

"Yeah."

Harsh?

"I don't mind."

In Sydney, he worked at dad's transport business and at his dad's girlfriend's sports apparel business, at the same time having a run with the Campbelltown Blues under-18s. He was rewarded with a senior game at the end of the season.

He returned to Victoria at the end of '07, played senior football for Castlemaine and the last four games for the Bendigo Pioneers in 2008, and most of this year with the Pioneers, where he was runner-up in the best-and-fairest.

Martin is an inside player who wins his own ball, is accomplished outside, loves to try to break tackles, was rated the second-best kick at the draft camp - with both feet - and was second with 2.89sec over 20m.

In other words, he is quick, tough, and uses the ball.

Someone close to him described him as Lenny Hayes with a touch more polish.

Hayes is 186cm and 85kg. Martin is 187cm and 87kg.

Martin also likes Joel Selwood, another Bendigo product.

"I like Lenny Hayes and Joel Selwood," he said.

"Joel is definitely similar to the way I want to play, just the way he wins the footy, gets it out, gets it again, his decision-making and vision, and without the footy he's really good."

For Bendigo, Martin averaged 24.7 touches (9.7 contested) and 115 SuperCoach points in 11 games.

For Vic Country in the under-18 championships, his numbers slightly dropped to 21.4 (7.2) and 111 points in five games.

At Bendigo, he was ranked No. 1 in disposals, contested possessions, clearances, inside 50s and score assists.

In the final under-18 match of the national championships, against Western Australia, the whole football industry watched Martin gather 28 touches, five clearances and an astonishing 193 SuperCoach points.

His All Australian selection didn't explode his head.

"I wasn't, `Oh my God, I'm centre for the All Australian'. I just got on with playing footy," he said.

It's the same when peers tell him he's going to Richmond.

"I hear that all the time, but anything can happen on draft day," he said.

Still, he thinks he will be a Tiger. But when football is your gateway to life, even the very confident can get very vulnerable.

"I'm scared of not getting drafted," he said.

"When I'm lying down in bed, I think, `it would be just so s--- if I didn't get drafted'."

He need not worry.

 


PROFILE:

DUSTIN MARTIN

Age: 18

Height: 187cm

Weight: 87kg

Position: Midfielder

Lives: Bendigo

Club: Bendigo Pioneers

Bloodlines: Father is from New Zealand, and only played low-level Australian football.

Draft Camp: Second in kicking accuracy and in the 20m sprint (2.89s).

Injury watch: Nothing of note.

The mail: Strong, hard-at-it competitor, highly skilled left and right, and can run. Will go at No.3 to the Tigers.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tiger-tough/story-e6frf9jf-1225795211997
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 07, 2009, 08:15:15 AM
Now I am a little more worried........ I just wished the hell they would stop the Martin articles and pump up Scully and Trengove. :scream

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He need not worry.




Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hes My Hero on November 07, 2009, 08:57:18 AM
I still cant believe Melbourne haven't spoken to him.
A tad negligent on there part. :gobdrop
But im very happy with D.Martin donning the yellow sash for years to come. :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 07, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
I still cant believe Melbourne haven't spoken to him.
A tad negligent on there part. :gobdrop
But im very happy with D.Martin donning the yellow sash for years to come. :)

fairly strong indicator on their preferences then :o
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 07, 2009, 12:27:07 PM
Well lets keep our fingers crossed then.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: PipBoy on November 07, 2009, 01:02:01 PM
g'day all - first post  ;D
no doubting his footy talent, but anyone else concerned that the kid left school after year 9?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on November 07, 2009, 01:08:06 PM
Just because a kid leaves school at year 9 doesnt mean hes a ratbag. Lots of ratsbags have completed school and gone to uni. In the end, 2 things count- 1 can he play 2) is he an honest kid thats prepared to work hard?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 07, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
g'day all - first post  ;D
no doubting his footy talent, but anyone else concerned that the kid left school after year 9?

ummm, is he applying to be CEO or the next star centreman ::)...when I glance at the tigers team of the century I dont see to many rhodes scholars...get some perspective , plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ???
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on November 07, 2009, 01:46:10 PM
g'day all - first post  ;D
no doubting his footy talent, but anyone else concerned that the kid left school after year 9?

Nah. There are many reasons he may have left, not all of them because he is stupid. Even if he is I can think of quite a few champions of the game whom I wouldn't credit as having very much brain power. Dermie, Carey, GA snr spring to mind without even trying.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: PipBoy on November 07, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
g'day all - first post  ;D
no doubting his footy talent, but anyone else concerned that the kid left school after year 9?

ummm, is he applying to be CEO or the next star centreman ::)...when I glance at the tigers team of the century I dont see to many rhodes scholars...get some perspective , plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ???

fair enough  ;)
i know they can't all be rocket scientists, but please don't turn out to be another Alan Didak  ;D

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on November 07, 2009, 03:54:54 PM
Sounds like he left school and continued his education at TAFE
Hardly warning bell stuff
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: PipBoy on November 07, 2009, 04:32:01 PM
The fact that Choco and Co labelled the lad 'dumb' might've put a wry smile on young Dustin's face!! I reckon I would've be laughing hysterically if the Alberton basket cases had the cheek to call the kettle black  :D

Sounds like he left school and continued his education at TAFE
Hardly warning bell stuff

kudos if he did go on with something other than just footy over the past two years or so  :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 07, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
relax people, he is applying for a Football Career, not a course at Melbourne University.

what springs to my mind is what D.Hardwick said when he was announced as Richmond coach.

along the lines of ...

"i want our players to leave a better person once they have done their time at Richmond"

Martin could be that example, after 300+ matches and Premierships  :thumbsup

having his parents split up could of influenced his Year 9 drop-out maybe?

however, he sounds confident and hunger.

hopefully he gets as big as a Kiwi and plays like Lenny Hayes and Joel Selwood.

Welcome to Richmond Dustin!

 :)

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: big tone on November 07, 2009, 04:50:13 PM
Stupid and arrogant! He will fit right in.
Only joking people!  :lol
Looking forward to seeing him in black and yellow.  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 07, 2009, 05:41:35 PM
Now I am a little more worried........ I just wished the hell they would stop the Martin articles and pump up Scully and Trengove. :scream


WAT, I am thinking we should start calling you WORT as in WORRY WORT  :rollin :rollin :rollin

this is the first "Martin article" I've read

Bottom line is he is more likely to end up at Richmond than not end up at Richmond..

If he doesn't we end up with either Scully or Trengrove.... nothing to worry about at all

 :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 07, 2009, 05:52:29 PM
If Martin was runner up B&F for the Pioneers, who won?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 07, 2009, 06:14:04 PM
going down the midfield draft track again spells doom for Tigerland  :banghead
we need KPP to build around in the forward line
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on November 07, 2009, 06:17:24 PM
going down the midfield draft track again spells doom for Tigerland  :banghead
we need KPP to build around in the forward line

Ive got a smokey and I will detail in the phantom draft at about pick 67.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: elliot on November 07, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
If Martin was runner up B&F for the Pioneers, who won?

Bendigo Pioneers
Best and fairest: Kallen Geary.
Runner-up best and fairest: Dustin Martin.

I know martin missed Pioneer games to play for VC but I'm unsure if Geary played for VC also.

I think he did.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 07, 2009, 06:30:33 PM
going down the midfield draft track again spells doom for Tigerland  :banghead
we need KPP to build around in the forward line

we'd be damn fools to overlook this kid for the likes of Butcher, we will snare a player of his ilk with No 19 as in Temil et al
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 07, 2009, 11:39:47 PM
going down the midfield draft track again spells doom for Tigerland  :banghead
we need KPP to build around in the forward line

we'd be damn fools to overlook this kid for the likes of Butcher, we will snare a player of his ilk with No 19 as in Temil et al

lol there be no body left at pick 19

Midfielders are key figures in every single draft but tall skilled KPP are far & few.  Its no good having a super midfield with a dud forward line you win more woodens spoons than play finals footy  ;D  :lol Thats Richmond 100%  :rollin

Rewoldt is a dudley softcock & Richo is a broken mule who gets more injections than the doctor carries in his medical kit
Morton is a one action footballer everytime he gets the ball. They will stop him next season & he dont follow team rules anyway thats why he got dropped.
We have continued to fail in a forward line for decades & have had no success.  Its common knowledge to build teams around your forwards. Look at Hawthorn, Brisbane. Essendon
To win games you must plan to attack with strength. Not build your side from the backline. Only a coach with no knowledge like Terry Wallace defends from the first bounce & continues to defend & push back when his losing  :rollin  ;D And to top it off the Richmond players kick it scared at every option coming out of the backline & midfield :lol
Good forwards builds team confidence,  why is Richmond so backwards in understanding that.

Deledio how he won the best & fairest this year is the biggest joke of the year. His form half the year was below standard
His playing well below his level as are many other midfielders. To have a old player like Cousins who missed several years of football & destroyed his health & is injury riddled to be the most dominating midfielder & shows extreme class Richmond has  is the biggest blight on the club as players like Deledio should be doing twice his workload & dominating.
All those midfielders apart from Cousins need a wake up call & need to be pushed alot harder

getting rid of Patto will bite us as l said for years now Hawthorn have always wanted him & will get him. It will be another player who will show he had plenty of talent


If anyone dont thinks a team is not created around the forward KP's then go figure.

For years we have had no players figure in the goalkicking.
For years we have kicked low scores
For years we have had low percentages
For years the games we have won are mostly won by just getting over the line 
For years we have had Richo let the team down who cant kick a straight goal at the most important moment
For years the Richmond supporters have seen the same poo over & over & over & its got to stop

For the sake of the Tiger skin HARDWICK draft some KPP's that play Ruck & Forward Connerly & Butcher are indurance ruckmen / forwards who can play today modern game

One thing l will say that Martin is a very powerful & smart midfielder who can go straight into a AFL side with his size & skill.
no doubt he would be a great asset in our midfield but who are the players going to kick the goals remembering Nathan Brown was a major player in setting up goals.
And we need a very mobile atheletic ruckmen
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 08, 2009, 12:06:39 AM
Monk, a question, Where does Geelong's strength lay, midfield or forwards? Three grand final appearances for two flags. Straight kicking could have been three....And their dominating match winning KPFs are...?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on November 08, 2009, 11:15:54 AM
I have to disagree with you TM.  You can have all the best power forwards you want but if you can't get it to them then they can't kick them.  Hawthorn this year is a prime example.  Franklin, Roughead and Rioli were not dominant and the premier team couldn't even make the eight because their midfield got decimated by injuries and form.  And as al said - Geelong have won 2 out of 3 grand finals with an average forward line but a Rolls Royce midfield.  It's no coincidence.  Of course, we shouldn't neglect the need for key forwards but I don't think we should prioritise them over quality mids until we have got a top line midfield on it's way.  Deledio, Cotchin, Tambling, Martin, Collins, Foley, Jackson - yep, we're on the way but not there yet.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 08, 2009, 11:56:29 AM
Monk, a question, Where does Geelong's strength lay, midfield or forwards? Three grand final appearances for two flags. Straight kicking could have been three....And their dominating match winning KPFs are...?

Geelong has strength all throughout thier side which was built by dedicated young players who play team football & shared the same hunger over the hard times.
They are committed all over the ground & have standout players because they do the extra hard work

The club made the correct decisions & drafted the players they lacked in & have staff just as dedicated to their jobs. Note Duncan Kellaway working for them cause Richmond shafted the Kellaways & showed them no respect like they did to others from the club which has clearly affected them over many years.

Bombers Thompson head was on the chopping block but they persisted & got the method right & were rewarded with 3 GF's & 2 flags so thats a terrific return.
They are still favorites for next season & thier home ground plays a huge advantage because even a undermaned Geelong side is feared there & in bad conditions thier forwards know how to kick the goals

So they have thier own stadium they call HOME (Collingwood gets more MCG games than us  :lol) & Geelong have thier own VFL side which makes a whole lot of difference & its hard to break into thier side.
The players who step up get the job done & know what the other players want from them because they are a list of 40+ players not 2 devided teams in different leagues

Hawthorn won a premiership because they built thier team around 2 forwards which gives the midfielders a rest when they are doing thier job winning the ball & kicking goals
It also gives the midfielders that extra energy to defend when needed & get back to help bring the ball out of defence & link it through the midfield

One other thing l like to note & l dont know how many times in Richo career l seen this,  but his leads were never honored & the team lacked confidence to kick it to him in 1 on 1 contests. Richo is one of the strongest bodied players & hard to outmark at anytime. When players dont play as a team it gives players like Richo more time to think of the negatives & thats why it stands out in him so much. That effects the overall team performance & creates conflict.

While all these was going on our CHF is in the centre of the ground caught out to far down the field instead of pushing forward to cover the FF including all the small forwards nowhere near goal

if you go to the game you will see Richo clearly way out front 1 kick off the play by himself because his lost his defender through his shear pace & ability but you watch a replay of the same game on tv & you will never see his true workrate & you think he never left the goal square cause his sprinted back to the square & is spent

l can clearly say from all the football l have been involved with & watched l have never seen a club so badly coached as under Terry Wallace

& one of the biggest factors of under devopedment of the  players at Richmond is thier lack of awareness on the ground.

Let me down there to coach them  ;D these are the basics of the game.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 08, 2009, 12:02:26 PM
I have to disagree with you TM.  You can have all the best power forwards you want but if you can't get it to them then they can't kick them.  Hawthorn this year is a prime example.  Franklin, Roughead and Rioli were not dominant and the premier team couldn't even make the eight because their midfield got decimated by injuries and form.  And as al said - Geelong have won 2 out of 3 grand finals with an average forward line but a Rolls Royce midfield.  It's no coincidence.  Of course, we shouldn't neglect the need for key forwards but I don't think we should prioritise them over quality mids until we have got a top line midfield on it's way.  Deledio, Cotchin, Tambling, Martin, Collins, Foley, Jackson - yep, we're on the way but not there yet.

my reply above Old Smokey was to Al
you will understand more my way of thinking after you read my post. ? for you do you really think Foley is a dominate midfielder or just a player that is covering a position till its taken by a fit Cotchin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on November 08, 2009, 12:40:08 PM
I have to disagree with you TM.  You can have all the best power forwards you want but if you can't get it to them then they can't kick them.  Hawthorn this year is a prime example.  Franklin, Roughead and Rioli were not dominant and the premier team couldn't even make the eight because their midfield got decimated by injuries and form.  And as al said - Geelong have won 2 out of 3 grand finals with an average forward line but a Rolls Royce midfield.  It's no coincidence.  Of course, we shouldn't neglect the need for key forwards but I don't think we should prioritise them over quality mids until we have got a top line midfield on it's way.  Deledio, Cotchin, Tambling, Martin, Collins, Foley, Jackson - yep, we're on the way but not there yet.

my reply above Old Smokey was to Al
you will understand more my way of thinking after you read my post. ? for you do you really think Foley is a dominate midfielder or just a player that is covering a position till its taken by a fit Cotchin

Yep, a lot of what you say is spot on TM - I just think that the midfield is the priority to get right first.  And re: Foley, I think he is a very good midfielder but in the past couple of years he has been one of the few and has carried some injuries (from overwork is my considered guess).  Put him in the midfield with Deledio, Cotchin, Collins, Tambling and Martin all firing and suddenly most opposition sides will struggle to match up on all these - that's when I think Foley will really stand out.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 08, 2009, 01:23:23 PM
a simple review of last couple of seasons stats would highlight that we regularly concede more I50 to the oppostion...errr, ummm me finks that may have a bit to do with the ability of the midfield unit. Fuuny how this boofheaded view on KPP over Mids has been thwarted by a side that has won 2 flags in 3 years with, wiat for it...Mooney as the mainstay forward.

Monk, pull your head from your ample size clacker and be a little more objectiove when it comes to buildign a side. First things first is establishing the supply line...Cats and before that WC were great examples of a dominant midfield winning the day

read the same for regualr finalsists in Dogs and Pies
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 08, 2009, 03:48:11 PM
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One other thing l like to note & l dont know how many times in Richo career l seen this,  but his leads were never honored & the team lacked confidence to kick it to him in 1 on 1 contests
This a good point monk. The Richmond midfielders often dont seem to have the confidence in their disposal to honor a lead, not just Richo's. Many times you see a player leader up the ground with a small break on their direct opponent but the onballers don't honor the lead, They seem to not have the confidence they can place the ball to advantage, or just don't know how to kick to advantage of a leading player. Watching the sides with good midfields, if they see a forward with a small break on their opponent the honor the lead quickly and often accurately, giving the back men little chance of spoiling.

The thing is this highlights the point about needing quality midfields. How many times did lockett kick a hundred in a crap side. He was so good all the midfielders had to do was kick it in his direction and he would do the rest. An ordinary midfield and a champion forward = how many finals for how many flags for the saints in that time? Not many for FA
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 10, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
a simple review of last couple of seasons stats would highlight that we regularly concede more I50 to the oppostion...errr, ummm me finks that may have a bit to do with the ability of the midfield unit. Fuuny how this boofheaded view on KPP over Mids has been thwarted by a side that has won 2 flags in 3 years with, wiat for it...Mooney as the mainstay forward.

Monk, pull your head from your ample size clacker and be a little more objectiove when it comes to buildign a side. First things first is establishing the supply line...Cats and before that WC were great examples of a dominant midfield winning the day

read the same for regualr finalsists in Dogs and Pies

l like it when you get all fired up & call me names  ;D  :lol
if you prefer mids then so be it thats your opinion go play with your mids bojangles  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 10, 2009, 09:57:01 PM
a simple review of last couple of seasons stats would highlight that we regularly concede more I50 to the oppostion...errr, ummm me finks that may have a bit to do with the ability of the midfield unit. Fuuny how this boofheaded view on KPP over Mids has been thwarted by a side that has won 2 flags in 3 years with, wiat for it...Mooney as the mainstay forward.

Monk, pull your head from your ample size clacker and be a little more objectiove when it comes to buildign a side. First things first is establishing the supply line...Cats and before that WC were great examples of a dominant midfield winning the day

read the same for regualr finalsists in Dogs and Pies

l like it when you get all fired up & call me names  ;D  :lol
if you prefer mids then so be it thats your opinion go play with your mids bojangles  ;D

i didn't call you names monk, i was using a metaphor to describe your blinkered approach that would improve by being a little more objective... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 11, 2009, 03:00:59 AM
Draft at the end of a footy dream
Emma Quayle | November 11, 2009

DUSTIN Martin was born in Castlemaine, and grew up there. He moved to Bendigo at the start of this year and in two-and-a-bit weeks will be drafted from the TAC Cup's Pioneers. In time, he may become the best player produced by the AFL's New South Wales scholarship scheme.

How can this possibly be so? Let's go back a little bit. Martin has always loved football. As a kid, the first thing he did when he woke up each morning was reach for the ball beside his bed. For as long as he can remember, the thing he most wanted to do was play for an AFL team.

Problem was, it was all he wanted to do.

During 2006, Martin started skipping his year-nine classes. Then he started skipping full days. When he did go to school, he couldn't maintain any interest in it, spending most of his time mucking around, not listening and driving teachers mad. ''I was never really, really bad or anything. I was just stuffing around all the time, being a real idiot,'' he said.

''I probably wish I'd stayed at school now, but at the time I didn't really like it and I was never going. I was playing up a bit so I just left, and my dad kind of cracked it at me.''

Martin's father, Shane, who lives in Sydney, couldn't be too hard on his teenage son. ''I couldn't tell him off too much,'' he said, ''because I was exactly the same.''

Still, the last thing he wanted was for Dustin to sit around, doing nothing with his time except wasting it.

He moved him up and put him to work: Dustin helped out at his dad's transport company, working on the computer, loading up trucks and driving forklifts. He worked with Shane's partner too: she created and sold gym wear, so he'd help her make it, worked in a couple of her shops and helped her try to sell it to gyms.

By the end of the year, he was focused again. ''He was a lot more motivated, and I had him working hard,'' Shane said. ''I had him working 12 or 13 hour days so he did it pretty tough and he really took to it. I told him, don't think you're coming up here to sit on your backside, and by the time he went back, he'd grown up a whole lot.''

Martin's football found some direction in Sydney too. He had played for the Pioneers' under-15 squad before moving home, and played pretty well. In Sydney he started playing for a local under-16 team but after dominating the first four games he moved to Campbelltown's under-18 team, and into a more challenging competition.

There, he met Ryan Bottin-Noonan, who had signed a NSW scholarship with the Swans and was getting to spend some time training with the team. Martin met a few other boys who had scholarships, decided he wanted one too and then realised he wasn't eligible: he would have to live in Sydney for three years first.

Still, the thought that those boys were so close to an AFL team made him realise there was no reason he couldn't get there too.

''It sort of made me think it was right there to grab,'' he said.

''I'd always wanted it, but I'd never really chased it. It made me think, I've got to go back and get serious about this whole thing now. It made me really want it.''

Martin was back in Castlemaine with his mother Kathy and two brothers by Christmas 2007 and after training all summer with the Castlemaine senior team - planning all the while to make the Bendigo side, believing that he could - he started in the middle.

Every week or two he'd check in with coach Jamie Elliott: had the Pioneers called yet?

He didn't need to worry. During pre-season, regional manager Ray Byrne heard Martin was back in town, but he wanted to let him settle back down before calling him up.

After his round-one game at Castlemaine the Pioneers thought they wanted him back in the program; four weeks in, they knew they did.

Martin started training there midway through the year, and Byrne knew from his first session that the Pioneers had a very good player on their hands. ''His fitness was amazing considering he hadn't been in the system at all,'' he said. ''His skills were great. He picked everything up, took everything in. He just looked like a natural-born footballer.''

Then came the last twist. Martin started playing for the Pioneers with a month left in the season, and not too many recruiters still watching his side, which didn't produce any draftees.

He dominated the first match, was just as good in the second and while hanging out at a friend's place during the next week, his phone rang.

On the line was Kinnear Beatson, the Sydney recruiting manager who, having been told about Martin, had watched the first quarter of his second game thinking he may just have unearthed a very promising - and unknown - late draft pick. Then he looked at his record, and realised the teenager had been born two months too late to qualify for the draft.

Beatson phoned him to find out for sure - and also to check how long he'd lived in Sydney, with a scholarship in mind.

It was a near miss on both fronts and the thought that a recruiter had actually noticed him both stunned Martin and gave him confidence.

''I couldn't even remember what he said,'' he recalled. ''I just got off the phone and looked at my friend and said: 'What the hell?' ''

Playing that last month gave Martin a better understanding of what he would be in for this year, too. He was a Pioneer star the second the season started and by the end of the under-18 championships mid-year, most recruiters were in love with his neat two-sided skills and his attack on the ball, among other things.

As his season - TAC Cup football, state football and an invitation to the draft camp - unfolded, all he kept thinking was, ''do as well as you can''.

''It was all pretty new to me,'' Martin said, ''but I just wanted to get as high up as I could with everything. When Ray sat me down and said, 'you've been invited to the draft camp,' it felt like it had happened so quickly.''

Martin boarded with a teammate in Bendigo this year; having already completed a certificate three in personal training he began working for an electrician friend of his father's.

''It's bloody complicated stuff,'' he said. ''But it's been good. I reckon I've learned some new skills.''

Since the season ended he has been running, going to the gym, trying to keep his mind off the thing he wants so badly and making sure that when he walks through his new club's door, he won't have too much catching up to do.

More than anything, he is glad he moved back home.

''I've changed since that time in Sydney, I reckon.

''I made myself go for it, and so far it's worked out pretty well.''

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/draft-at-the-end-of-a-footy-dream/2009/11/10/1257615039723.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on November 11, 2009, 05:54:01 AM
I like the fact that this kid has had experience in the work place! It adds maturity to young people,  imo, that will be invaluable to the AFL fishbowl!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 11, 2009, 08:13:57 AM
Agree with Go Richo here. Fancy Port asking him if he was dumb. They must have really done their research!!!
I think we know why Sydney offered two later 1st round draft picks for no3. They wanted this kid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on November 11, 2009, 08:56:05 AM
I think we know why Sydney offered two later 1st round draft picks for no3. They wanted this kid.

Yep pretty obvious now.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: PipBoy on November 11, 2009, 09:29:27 AM
Read a HUN report and you get a cheeseburger, read an Age report and you get the fries on the side too  ;D

I'm now much more comfortable with the lad having a few important gaps now filled  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 13, 2009, 01:23:25 PM
Meet the draftees: Dustin Martin
afl.com.au
Fri 13 November, 2009

Height: 187cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 26/06/91
Recruited from: Castlemaine

Bio: Attacking onballer with great balance and ball winning ability. Averaged 21 possessions per game for Vic Country at NAB AFL U18 Championships, winning All-Australian honours. Good skills on both sides of this body.

Matt Burgan's draft rating: 2-5
 
Watch Dustin Martin in action: http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/videoid/51008/dustin+martin+highlights/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/videoid/51008/dustin+martin+highlights/default.aspx)
 
What type of player are you?
A centre who is a good clearance player. Can run and carry, can play both ends and set up attacks.
 
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble, and why?
Joel Selwood. Good around contests, good skill level and decision making.
 
What are your strengths as a footballer?
Strength, skills, ability to read the play and decision making.
 
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
Fitness.
 
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
St Kilda. I’ve known Rod Keogh from when I was young.
 
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
Myself. Because I want the best out of myself.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86659/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on November 13, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
This kids has so much self confidence that it marks him as a champion before he even begins. Some would say he is arrogant but he just strongly believes in his own ability and knows exactly where he wants to go.

The more I hear of this kid the more he impresses me but hope and expectation is far from reality I have come to learn over the past few years. I just hope Cotchin can play an injury free season to support this young kid and stop teasing us with glimpses of form and promise.

Do like this kids though...

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 15, 2009, 08:07:13 PM
It's good that he believes in himself but the hard work will only truly begin after he is drafted. I won't be complaining if he ends up like a Lenny Hayes though.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 16, 2009, 12:40:38 AM
Rumor on BF that the Dees may take Martin & Scully..... it was BF though.... :whistle
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 16, 2009, 01:59:17 AM
Rumor on BF that the Dees may take Martin & Scully..... it was BF though.... :whistle
I wouldn't complain if Trengove slipped to 3 but Melbourne didn't speak to Martin according to that Age article.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 16, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
Rumor on BF that the Dees may take Martin & Scully..... it was BF though.... :whistle
I wouldn't complain if Trengove slipped to 3 but Melbourne didn't speak to Martin according to that Age article.

They might have spoken to him recently, maybe not at the camp but after, I wouldn't mind Trengove either as he was my first selection out of him and Scully.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on November 16, 2009, 12:15:18 PM
I will be disappointed if we don't get Martin, purely because I want to him play a heap of games next year, but long term scully and trengrove have more upside! I'm sure Melbourne won't overlook that fact. Having said that if we were in melbournes position I would take Martin and one of the other two as he suits our needs!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on November 16, 2009, 02:49:48 PM
Martin is going to be a big lad judging by his picture and size already. He still has alot of filling out to do and, with his strength and style of play, will hurt a lot of opposition midfielders with his ferocity.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 16, 2009, 03:05:02 PM
Martin is going to be a big lad judging by his picture and size already. He still has alot of filling out to do and, with his strength and style of play, will hurt a lot of opposition midfielders with his ferocity.

Stripes
Enough already, your getting me excited stripes.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 16, 2009, 07:17:06 PM
Meet the draftees: Dustin Martin
afl.com.au
Fri 13 November, 2009

Height: 187cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 26/06/91
Recruited from: Castlemaine

Bio: Attacking onballer with great balance and ball winning ability. Averaged 21 possessions per game for Vic Country at NAB AFL U18 Championships, winning All-Australian honours. Good skills on both sides of this body.

Matt Burgan's draft rating: 2-5
 
Watch Dustin Martin in action: http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/videoid/51008/dustin+martin+highlights/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/videoid/51008/dustin+martin+highlights/default.aspx)
 
What type of player are you?
A centre who is a good clearance player. Can run and carry, can play both ends and set up attacks.
 
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble, and why?
Joel Selwood. Good around contests, good skill level and decision making.

 
What are your strengths as a footballer?
Strength, skills, ability to read the play and decision making.
 
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
Fitness.
 
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
St Kilda. I’ve known Rod Keogh from when I was young.
 
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
Myself. Because I want the best out of myself.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86659/default.aspx

 :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 16, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
It dont matter who the Demons take if Richmond dont do anything dumb like always we will get a top player if they are going for midfielders 1st up
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 16, 2009, 11:52:18 PM
It dont matter who the Demons take if Richmond dont do anything dumb like always we will get a top player if they are going for midfielders 1st up

There you go again TM having so much faith in the NEW regime....... :whistle ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 17, 2009, 07:55:25 AM
It dont matter who the Demons take if Richmond dont do anything dumb like always we will get a top player if they are going for midfielders 1st up

There you go again TM having so much faith in the NEW regime....... :whistle ::)

Thats right WAT l have no faith because it dont matter who they draft.
You got to have the right development coaches to take the recruits to the next level & then keep them there.
You understand why Richmond have had no success in the last 28 years or you think its because they draft the wrong players

l will have faith when l see them players producing AFL quality football & doing it consistantly
l dont care if they win lose or draw as long as they produce quality & then the rest will fall into place  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on November 17, 2009, 09:14:52 AM
It dont matter who the Demons take if Richmond dont do anything dumb like always we will get a top player if they are going for midfielders 1st up

There you go again TM having so much faith in the NEW regime....... :whistle ::)

Thats right WAT l have no faith because it dont matter who they draft.
You got to have the right development coaches to take the recruits to the next level & then keep them there.
You understand why Richmond have had no success in the last 28 years or you think its because they draft the wrong players

l will have faith when l see them players producing AFL quality football & doing it consistantly
l dont care if they win lose or draw as long as they produce quality & then the rest will fall into place  ;D

you only have to look at how skinny our players are year after year after year to realize we have as much idea as a football club about developing as we do drafting talent.

Shane Edwards, yep im sure Max Rooke would be real scared of facing up to him out on the field. Polo, Thursfield ditto...

Our players go backwards in skill and development and no one can tell me  its because we "draft" the wrong players all the time.

Unless hardwick spends more money on development coaches then he too will struggly like many before him.

Sending players back on the ground injured is not a fault of drafting the wrong players its the fault of the RFC people who have NFI.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on November 17, 2009, 10:24:29 AM
It dont matter who the Demons take if Richmond dont do anything dumb like always we will get a top player if they are going for midfielders 1st up

There you go again TM having so much faith in the NEW regime....... :whistle ::)

Thats right WAT l have no faith because it dont matter who they draft.
You got to have the right development coaches to take the recruits to the next level & then keep them there.
You understand why Richmond have had no success in the last 28 years or you think its because they draft the wrong players

l will have faith when l see them players producing AFL quality football & doing it consistantly
l dont care if they win lose or draw as long as they produce quality & then the rest will fall into place  ;D

you only have to look at how skinny our players are year after year after year to realize we have as much idea as a football club about developing as we do drafting talent.

Shane Edwards, yep im sure Max Rooke would be real scared of facing up to him out on the field. Polo, Thursfield ditto...

Our players go backwards in skill and development and no one can tell me  its because we "draft" the wrong players all the time.

Unless hardwick spends more money on development coaches then he too will struggly like many before him.

Sending players back on the ground injured is not a fault of drafting the wrong players its the fault of the RFC people who have NFI.



All the coaches, from the head coach down, are training with the group - working one-on-one. You can't get better for development than that. Couple this with some specific coaches whoa re working with pairs or individual players such as the Irish Lads and I say we are more hands on and needs based than we have ever been.

Hardwick appears to be a uncompromising teacher to me which is exactly what we need.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Con65 on November 17, 2009, 10:59:23 AM
Doesnt happen often but i agree with TM's comment about development.

In fact when you think of it, in a comp where half the teams play finals, we have been spectacularly successful in failure. 2 finals in 28 years would be hard to plan to achieve let alone achieve....

Our players in the past have not developed like players have at other clubs...admitedly we had no money for develpment coaches in Wallace first 2 seasons...and this is being felt now...Players drafted pre 2007 had no one to work with on their development....

Hopefully our current development program and coaches will bring kids on that would otherwise have been borderline players into fully fledged afl players...it is pleasing to hear that they have the balls out in October/November working on their skills...

Cheers to a new dawn...to the belief as DH would say.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on November 17, 2009, 01:22:06 PM
Doesnt happen often but i agree with TM's comment about development.

In fact when you think of it, in a comp where half the teams play finals, we have been spectacularly successful in failure. 2 finals in 28 years would be hard to plan to achieve let alone achieve....

Our players in the past have not developed like players have at other clubs...admitedly we had no money for develpment coaches in Wallace first 2 seasons...and this is being felt now...Players drafted pre 2007 had no one to work with on their development....

Hopefully our current development program and coaches will bring kids on that would otherwise have been borderline players into fully fledged afl players...it is pleasing to hear that they have the balls out in October/November working on their skills...

Cheers to a new dawn...to the belief as DH would say.

Yep.  Regardless of the reasons, we have been much much worse at developing kids than we have been at drafting them.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 17, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
No doubt poor development has played its part but our recruiting philosophy has been wrong for a very long time and we were continually slipping further behind other clubs. Firstly they understood how the draft system works and how to maximise the benefit from it while we kept making the same dumb short term mistakes. Secondly they were pouring their resources into the draft and recruiting adding more and more sophisticated methods while we were still going on one recruiter's hunch after watching a couple of videos  :help. Thirdly we were drafting too many smalls that were light on. Someone like Shane Edwards no matter how much gym work he does, no matter how many protein drinks he consumes, and no matter how good our development of players could be, he will never end up with a Max Rooke body-type who can bash and crash their way through. Fourthly we were not drafting enough kids per year and turning over our ordinary list quickly. If you keep hold of the same group of players year after year then it's no surprise we never improve as a side.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on November 17, 2009, 10:11:23 PM
Someone like Shane Edwards no matter how much gym work he does, no matter how much protein drinks he consumes, and no matter how good our development of players could be, he will never end up with a Max Rooke body-type who can bash and crash their way through.
I understand your point, however not every player needs to be a bash and crash type like Max Rooke. Especially given the fact that if Max played for Richmond he'd be a whipping boy for averaging 11 disposals and 1 goal a game. Even Kayne Pettifer couldn't hold his spot in the side for 2 years despite pulling numbers like that. People have been calling for Tom Hislop's head all season for pulling numbers like that and he's only 20 years old.

Shane Edwards is 180cm & 76kg at the start of 2009 so add on some weight from this preseason. Andrew McLeod is 181cm and 81kg. I guarantee you that I'd take Andrew McLeod over Max Rooke every single time. No need to stereotype based on body type alone. It takes all types, as long as they have talent and application, that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 17, 2009, 11:46:24 PM
Someone like Shane Edwards no matter how much gym work he does, no matter how much protein drinks he consumes, and no matter how good our development of players could be, he will never end up with a Max Rooke body-type who can bash and crash their way through.
I understand your point, however not every player needs to be a bash and crash type like Max Rooke. Especially given the fact that if Max played for Richmond he'd be a whipping boy for averaging 11 disposals and 1 goal a game. Even Kayne Pettifer couldn't hold his spot in the side for 2 years despite pulling numbers like that. People have been calling for Tom Hislop's head all season for pulling numbers like that and he's only 20 years old.

Shane Edwards is 180cm & 76kg at the start of 2009 so add on some weight from this preseason. Andrew McLeod is 181cm and 81kg. I guarantee you that I'd take Andrew McLeod over Max Rooke every single time. No need to stereotype based on body type alone. It takes all types, as long as they have talent and application, that's all that matters.
That's true Infamy it takes all types to make a footy team and I wasn't saying that we don't need any smalls. Rioli is proof that a high quality small can become an absolute gun. I wasn't meaning either to have a go at Edwards. Just that he was mentioned in relation to Rooke in the thread and I was just meaning it's not Edwards fault if he can't bulk up into a tank like Rooke. They are two completely different body types. We are though very undersized as a side both in terms of height and weight. I'm not sure why we need 9 players under six foot weighing in the 70kgs on our list. It's too many smalls and imbalances our list especially when compared to our lack of enough talls. I think this time next year at least half of those 180cm or shorter will be cut.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on November 18, 2009, 07:32:55 AM

.....at least half of those 180cm or shorter will be cut.


That's not really fair MT - as if they aren't short enough already!!   ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Con65 on November 18, 2009, 08:43:41 AM
back to Dustin Martin...would you if you were FJ or CC call out his name or Morabito's name on draft day?

Morabito is slightly taller - bigger body too....

(Not that I am upset with Martin, from the video package and draft camp results he looks the real deal...skilled on both feet, fast etc)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on November 18, 2009, 09:13:09 AM
Someone like Shane Edwards no matter how much gym work he does, no matter how much protein drinks he consumes, and no matter how good our development of players could be, he will never end up with a Max Rooke body-type who can bash and crash their way through.
I understand your point, however not every player needs to be a bash and crash type like Max Rooke. Especially given the fact that if Max played for Richmond he'd be a whipping boy for averaging 11 disposals and 1 goal a game. Even Kayne Pettifer couldn't hold his spot in the side for 2 years despite pulling numbers like that. People have been calling for Tom Hislop's head all season for pulling numbers like that and he's only 20 years old.

Shane Edwards is 180cm & 76kg at the start of 2009 so add on some weight from this preseason. Andrew McLeod is 181cm and 81kg. I guarantee you that I'd take Andrew McLeod over Max Rooke every single time. No need to stereotype based on body type alone. It takes all types, as long as they have talent and application, that's all that matters.

Shane Edwards has one more season to step up. Im sick to death of using age as an excuse for performances like some they he has shown.

Yes he tried hard but the day Leon kicked 4 on him yet most on here thought he played well was the funniest thying i have ever heard.

Edwards will never be a player. Its so painful to watch every time he goes to tackle an opponent he gets brushed aside.

Compare that to Nahas who most times tackles an opponent effectively.

It is Edwards who should have been thrown up for trade not Tuck

ooh and just on the Pettifer vrs Rooke topic, how many tackles did Pathetic lay and how many times did he block for his teammates. Ill tell you

NONE!!!

Petrified is not even half the player Rooke is

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 18, 2009, 11:46:53 AM
back to Dustin Martin...would you if you were FJ or CC call out his name or Morabito's name on draft day?

Morabito is slightly taller - bigger body too....

(Not that I am upset with Martin, from the video package and draft camp results he looks the real deal...skilled on both feet, fast etc)
Martin, no qualms about it. They both seem to be potentially qualty players but ;
'WA'S most likely first draft pick, Anthony Morabito, has a burning preference to play from his home state, but concedes his AFL career could start elsewhere.'

'"But the transition through to life as an AFL footballer would naturally be better staying at home and playing for a club in WA ... but at the end of the day it's not really my decision."

Morabito and his manager, Colin Young, have told eastern states clubs he would prefer to stay at home'

Too big a risk that you would only have him for a short time or that you may not get the best out of him because he doesn't want to be at the club.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on November 18, 2009, 01:00:34 PM
ooh and just on the Pettifer vrs Rooke topic, how many tackles did Pathetic lay and how many times did he block for his teammates. Ill tell you

NONE!!!

Petrified is not even half the player Rooke is
Talk about missing the point
I kinda figured you would though
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 18, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
Its got nothing to do with age. AGE in football is NOT a factor.
l can real off heaps of players who never looked back after arriving at clubs & playing round 1
Problem with football was raising the draft age to 18 when a 15 year old is safe to play football at AFL level cause its soft football these days,  its not a mans game anymore.   Take the age restriction away & skill level & the game will pickup new momentum & create more buzz

Players have skills & talent before they arrive, thats is why they get drafted
Richmond has simply failed to develope players & thats a FACT

Player awareness,  basic skills & confidence are shot
Strengthening & protecting the body  :lol  we are pushovers

Talking & comparing Andrew McLeod lol the man is a champion with silky skills & excellent ability to read the game.  He would kick nearly all of our senior players ass at his age now.

But age has nothing to do with football as most kids aged 14 are bigger than thier own parents & coaches these days & alot of 15 year olds are playing senior foorball around the country & doing well.

Edwards is a player who needs to do extra work otherwise he be gone next year cause his skills & strength are poo
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on November 18, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
Goodness gracious me.

I think everyone would benefit from just posting on topics they know a little bit about rather than ranting and pretending they are Einsteins.

Development - The word revolves around time. Time is categorically related to age. You can't be developed over night. Champions aren't born in a day.

Each human body and brain evolves differently to its neighbor scientific fact. So to pigeon whole an age to say a player must be this good by this age is naive and dumb.

In any sport athletes gain experience in different ways, it can be fast tracked or slowed down by many reasons, most out of the athletes control. Experience has nothing to do with age but simply "time in the middle", "time on the ground" etc.

Development and gaining experience are the two underlying factors of an athletes career without them they can't be anything.

Everyone would agree that it takes time to acquire these attributes.

Any player under 21 even 22 can't even begin to be expected to have reached the potential of these key attributes. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2009, 02:11:21 PM

.....at least half of those 180cm or shorter will be cut.


That's not really fair MT - as if they aren't short enough already!!   ;D
;D. Reminds me of a Goodies episode lol

On Con's question - I've only seen Morabito a couple of times so can't really rate him but he didn't do anything that I saw that me go wow this guy is a gun! He played just like a typical flanker. To me the choice was between going with a true KPP such as Butcher or a quality true ballwinner/midfielder. Martin seems to fit the latter. In any case we should end up with a quality footballer at pick 3. The true test for Cameron and Jackson will be our next 3-4 picks. Who we choose with picks 19, 35, 44 and 51 will determine how successful this year's draft will be for us.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 18, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Goodness gracious me.

I think everyone would benefit from just posting on topics they know a little bit about rather than ranting and pretending they are Einsteins.

Development - The word revolves around time. Time is categorically related to age. You can't be developed over night. Champions aren't born in a day.

Each human body and brain evolves differently to its neighbor scientific fact. So to pigeon whole an age to say a player must be this good by this age is naive and dumb.

In any sport athletes gain experience in different ways, it can be fast tracked or slowed down by many reasons, most out of the athletes control. Experience has nothing to do with age but simply "time in the middle", "time on the ground" etc.

Development and gaining experience are the two underlying factors of an athletes career without them they can't be anything.

Everyone would agree that it takes time to acquire these attributes.

Any player under 21 even 22 can't even begin to be expected to have reached the potential of these key attributes. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.


OK Einstein so why did you post then if everyone is so called ranting off topic  :lol  :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on November 18, 2009, 02:17:06 PM
On Con's question - I've only seen Morabito a couple of times so can't really rate him but he didn't do anything that I saw that me go wow this guy is a gun! He played just like a typical flanker. To me the choice was between going with a true KPP such as Butcher or a quality true ballwinner/midfielder. Martin seems to fit the latter. In any case we should end up with a quality footballer at pick 3. The true test for Cameron and Jackson will be our next 3-4 picks. Who we choose with picks 19, 35, 44 and 51 will determine how successful this year's draft will be for us.

Now your talking
& so right #3 pick will give us a player of top quality youth be it mid or KPP
the picks after that in this years draft are so huge that the club relys on them to be 7 - 10 year players of good standard
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 18, 2009, 05:49:14 PM
back to Dustin Martin...would you if you were FJ or CC call out his name or Morabito's name on draft day?

Morabito is slightly taller - bigger body too....

(Not that I am upset with Martin, from the video package and draft camp results he looks the real deal...skilled on both feet, fast etc)

Morabito does not kick well.

Martin kicks v well.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Con65 on November 18, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
thanks to those that answered my question...esp Bentleigh...yes he does kick very well in the vids

i also agree that we need to find at least 2 more 150 gamers in the lower picks at least...4 more players would be even better...but i would settle for 2 more plus Martin...

the chances of us doing a geelong of 99 and 01 are remote...but you never know...at least we did not trade away picks this year like we have in past years....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2009, 12:02:13 AM
thanks to those that answered my question...esp Bentleigh...yes he does kick very well in the vids

i also agree that we need to find at least 2 more 150 gamers in the lower picks at least...4 more players would be even better...but i would settle for 2 more plus Martin...

the chances of us doing a geelong of 99 and 01 are remote...but you never know...at least we did not trade away picks this year like we have in past years....
It will be difficult given we only have 2 picks inside the top 30 in a compromised draft but I agree Con finding three 150-game players would be a bare minimum for this draft to get a pass mark and for us to build a strong team in the future. We've got to hope FJ and his crew can find some hidden gems across the ND, PSD and rookie drafts :pray.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 22, 2009, 03:57:59 AM
RUNNING MAN
Jay Clark From: Sunday Herald Sun November 22, 2009

Dustin Martin

Bendigo Pioneers

Handball receives:10.8 pg (11)

Clean-skilled ball-winner who is an undisputed midfield weapon. One of the biggest improvers this year, Martin has the body strength to bust packs and the pace to break the lines with his run and carry.

Like some of the most damaging players in the AFL, teammates look to handpass to the attacking playmaker to make the most of his excellent disposal by foot and sound decision-making.

But the dual-sided midfielder won't rely on others to give him the ball, as he showed enormous appetite for the contest averaging 21 possessions throughout the national championships.

Similar to Ben Cunnington in his attack in tight, with perhaps a bit more speed, mobility and penetration by foot what separates them.


Who's he like? Marc Murphy with a touch of Simon Black-like polish.


Draft range: Richmond has locked him away with No. 3.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-master-apprentices-of-the-afl/story-e6frf9jf-1225801664134
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 25, 2009, 02:29:52 AM
Picks of the draft: Dustin Martin
Emma Quayle | November 24, 2009

FROM: Bendigo Pioneers, via the Castlemaine juniors. Martin spent 2007 in Sydney, playing for Campbelltown.

THE NUMBERS: Born 26 June, 1991. 186cm, 88kg.

THE LOWDOWN: Martin is a strong-bodied, strong-minded midfielder who keeps his feet, can slip tackles, kick with both feet and go forward to take a mark. He's among the best kicks in the draft and if there's a scrap for the ball you'd want him on your side. During the national championships, he played particularly well at the start of the first game and the start of the last one, suggesting his endurance needs work - and he's been working on it - but that he also has a cool head in big situations. Martin has an honest, straightforward nature, and it comes through in his footy.

RUNNING AND JUMPING: Martin did a 2.89 20-metre sprint at draft camp. He did the first five metres in 1.02 seconds, showing off a burst some weren't sure he had. He did a 14.1 beep test and a mid-group three-kilometre time of 11.05.

WHO NEEDS HIM: Martin would be the ideal addition to the Richmond midfield, and that's where he looks like ending up. If not, he'll be on his way to Fremantle or snapped up by North Melbourne. He's simply one of the more highly sought-after players in the draft.

IRRELEVANT YET INTERESTING FACT: Martin has a Maori background. His father Shane grew up in New Zealand.

WHO WOULD PLAY HIM IN A MOVIE? Bryan Brown. Solid, tough type who can provide finesse when required.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/picks-of-the-draft-dustin-martin/2009/11/23/1258824670433.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 25, 2009, 03:06:16 AM
No surprise but Ch 9's late news last night declared Dustin Martin will definitely be a Tiger on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on November 25, 2009, 07:21:10 AM
No surprise but Ch 9's late news last night declared Dustin Martin will definitely be a Tiger on Thursday night.

cool
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2009, 03:33:12 PM
IT'S D-DAY FOR DUSTIN
LUKE WEST
26 Nov, 2009

FOR as long as he can remember, all Dustin Martin has wanted to do is play AFL football.

From the time he first pulled on the guernsey for the Campbells Creek Junior Football Club in the under-10s, to this year with the Bendigo Pioneers in the TAC Cup, that dream has never wavered.

Tonight, Martin’s dream of making an AFL list is set to become a reality at the national draft.

And according to all the pre-draft speculation of the past month, it seems a given the club Martin will join is Richmond, with the Tigers expected to take the highly-talented midfielder with pick No.3.

For Martin, tonight can’t come around quick enough.

He has garnered enormous media attention in the metropolitan papers in recent weeks with interviews and photo shoots, but all the quietly-spoken 18-year-old wants to do now is just get out on the training track at wherever it is he is selected and let his football do the talking.

“Footy is my life; I just love it and it’s all I’ve ever wanted to do,’’ Martin told The Advertiser yesterday.

“And when you get to the AFL, that’s what footy is - it becomes your life by training every day, and that’s the way I want to live.

“I can’t wait and hopefully, I’ll get an opportunity.’’

Barring any major surprise, Richmond will tonight be Martin’s AFL club, with the Tigers poised to pick him after Melbourne uses its No.1 and 2 selections on Tom Scully and Jack Trengrove, who, like Martin, have become the faces in the draft lead-up.

“It hasn’t been too bad; it doesn’t bother me too much,’’ Martin answered when asked how he has handled all the media hype that has surrounded him in the past month.

“You just do what you’ve got to do. I don’t get a big head or anything like that, I just keep going about my business.

“Hopefully, I can get picked up and then the hard work will all really begin.

“I’ve got a long way to go and just can’t wait to, hopefully, get an opportunity and work as hard as I can.’’

The Martin story has been well documented by several pre-draft profile stories in the past month.

As a teenager growing up in Castlemaine, school and he never agreed, so in 2007 Martin moved to Sydney and worked for his dad, Shane, while also playing with the Campbelltown Blues under-18 side.

After a year in Sydney, Martin returned to Castlemaine, where in 2008 he lined up for the Magpies’ senior team in the Bendigo Football League, and took the competition by storm with his speed, penetrating kicking and ability to bust packs open with his fierce attack on the contest.

“Playing that year with Castlemaine against a lot of bigger bodies was really good for me in getting used to the tougher contested ball,’’ said Martin, who has been managed by Ricky Nixon’s Flying Start since the start of the year.

“I had a lot of good teammates that year, a good coach (Jamie Elliott), and playing that year of senior footy was a really good grounding.’’

It was an ordinary season for Castlemaine, with the Magpies winning just five of 16 games, but Martin was the clear shining light.

Despite missing the last two games when finally called up to the Pioneers, Martin won the Magpies’ goalkicking with 22 - of which 11 came in his final two games against Kyneton and eventual grand finalist Golden Square - and was a hands-down winner of the league’s CVGT-backed Rising Star award.

One of the obvious attributes from his first senior game for the Magpies in 2008 against Gisborne at Camp Reserve - a match in which Ron Barassi was in the crowd - was Martin’s confidence to take the game on and play with flair.

Such was the impact Martin was having at Castlemaine early in his debut senior season, coach Jamie Elliott knew he had something special on his hands, to the point where he contacted one of his former clubs, St Kilda, but received no response.

“As a club we felt we needed to be pushing the kid to where he should be, because you knew at that early stage he was pretty special, but he was too young to be drafted in 2008,’’ Elliott said.

“He’s just a powerful, powerful kid; I used to do one-on-ones with him as a 16-year-old and he would just push me off the ball.

“I thought he could have played senior AFL football this year as a 17-year-old, no doubt.

“I’ve never seen a kid run into a pack of six or seven men and come out backwards with the ball . . . it’s not as though he was running through the pack, he would run in like a bull, grab the footy and run out backwards.

“There’s no doubt he’s the best kid I’ve seen play at that age; he’s just a phenomenal talent.’’

After playing the last four games for the Pioneers in 2008, Martin - a St Kilda supporter who works as a labourer for Luke Arnott Electrical - was one of the side’s stars this year.

In 11 matches he averaged 24.6 disposals, 4.0 marks and 3.0 tackles per game playing as a midfielder changing deep forward.

“I was just happy to come into the Pioneers team late in 2008, and to have those four games was a really good experience to get a bit of an insight into what it was all about,’’ Martin said.

“That helped me prepare for this year.’’

But it was at this year’s under-18 national championships in June and July where Martin’s talents were truly on display when he averaged 21.4 possessions per game representing Victoria Country.

Martin’s fine carnival was capped by being named in the centre in the All-Australian team as he further enhanced his growing reputation as one of the country’s hottest young prospects.

“You never got an easy possession, but it was just good to get out and play against and with players of that quality,’’ Martin said.

“It can only make you a better player.’’

Among those who selected Martin in the All-Australian team was AFL national talent identification manager Kevin Sheehan.

“Dustin has this enormous potential because he arrived on the scene really late last year, and even then looked to be a young star in his four games for the Pioneers,’’ Sheehan said.

“But this year, right from the start people were talking a first-round draft choice when he was showing some of the attributes of a guy who used to play in the midfield for Bendigo a few years earlier in Joel Selwood.

“His attack on the footy is just outstanding and he has elite speed for a guy who stands at 186cm.

“He was the second-quickest over 20m at the draft camp with 2.89 seconds, and you can see that in the way he plays with the way he just bursts through the midfield.

“It’s hard to lay a hand on him and tackle him; he’s just a powerful inside midfielder and thumping kick on his right and left foot.

“Really, all the boxes have been ticked with his elite speed, he is prepared to work, has a real motor for endurance, and he played well in the big games for Victoria Country.

“He’s an unassuming guy who really does just want to get out there and play the game.

“He seems destined to make a real success of it.’’

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/its-dday-for-dustin/1687997.aspx?storypage=0
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 26, 2009, 06:47:17 PM
Quote
“Footy is my life; I just love it and it’s all I’ve ever wanted to do,’’ Martin told The Advertiser yesterday.

“And when you get to the AFL, that’s what footy is - it becomes your life by training every day, and that’s the way I want to live.

“I can’t wait and hopefully, I’ll get an opportunity.’’

Barring any major surprise, Richmond will tonight be Martin’s AFL club, with the Tigers poised to pick him after Melbourne uses its No.1 and 2 selections on Tom Scully and Jack Trengrove, who, like Martin, have become the faces in the draft lead-up.

“It hasn’t been too bad; it doesn’t bother me too much,’’ Martin answered when asked how he has handled all the media hype that has surrounded him in the past month.

“You just do what you’ve got to do. I don’t get a big head or anything like that, I just keep going about my business.

“Hopefully, I can get picked up and then the hard work will all really begin.

“I’ve got a long way to go and just can’t wait to, hopefully, get an opportunity and work as hard as I can.’’

The bold bit is pleasing to hear. You want to hear that they understand that being drafted is only a entry point and the real work only starts after that.

It's official. Welcome to Tigerland Dustin  :cheers  :thumbsup  :clapping
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2009, 08:29:54 PM
2009 National Draft - Dustin Martin (pick 3)

(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/dustin%20martin%20web.jpg)

Dustin Martin highlights: http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/226059

DOB: 26/06/91
Height: 186cm
Weight: 87.5kg
Club: Bendigo Pioneers, TAC Cup

What the recruiters say:

Dustin is a powerfully built midfielder with exceptional kicking abilities. He has great depth in his kicking, allowing him to break lines and zones through the middle of the ground. He plays his football with a physical, robust approach to the contest and is a highly motivated individual.

Dustin is originally from NSW and played football in 2008 with Castlemaine while also representing the Pioneers in three games.

This year Dustin played 11 games with the Pioneers, averaging 25 possessions per game - 10 of those contested - and appearing in the best players five times. He began impressively in round 1 against the Geelong Falcons, where he recorded 34 possessions, 10 tackles, seven clearances and two goals. He was rewarded for an impressive year by being named in the centre in the TAC Cup Team of the Year.

Dustin also represented the Victorian Country side at the NAB National U18 Championships where he averaged 21 possessions. He finished the carnival strongly with a 28 possession game against the championship winners Western Australia. He was again rewarded for an outstanding carnival by being named in the centre for the U18 All-Australian team.

At the AFL draft camp at the AIS in Canberra, Dustin recorded the second-faster time over the 20m sprint of 2.89 sec, while also reaching an excellent score of 14.0 on the endurance based “beep test”.

The club is genuinely excited about the prospect of Dustin joining the midfield group of Deledio, Cotchin, Cousins and co in the near future. He has a strong body which will be able to cope with the rigorous demands of an AFL environment and the skills to impact quickly.


Dustin Martin in his own words:

What type of player are you?
A centre, who is a good clearance player. Can run and carry, can play both ends and set up attacks.

Which AFL player do you feel you resemble, and why?
Joel Selwood. Good around contests, good skill level and decision-making.

What are your strengths as a footballer?
Strength, skills, ability to read the play and decision-making.

What parts of your game would you like to improve?
Fitness.

Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
St Kilda. I’ve known Rod Keogh from when I was young.

Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
Myself.  Because I want the best out of myself.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2010/2009NationalDraft/DustinMartin/tabid/15501/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Dusty said we told him we were taking him two days ago......

Tigers get their man
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg | Thu 26 November, 2009

Dustin Martin, a powerfully-built, attacking midfielder, with superb kicking skills, was taken by Richmond with its first selection (pick 3 overall) in the 2009 AFL National Draft.

The 18-year-old from Castlemaine had been earmarked by the Tigers as their No. 1 Draft choice for quite some time.

Tiger talent scouts were super-impressed with Martin’s all-round football ability, strength of character and maturity.

“Dustin has been on our radar since last year.  He is a special talent and we have tracked him closely,” said Richmond’s Recruitment Manager Francis Jackson.

“We knew last year that he would go top five in the Draft.  He has improved even further over the past year and had a stellar performance at the under-18s national carnival, which culminated in him being named in the All-Australian side (in the centre).”

Martin, who played for Bendigo Pioneers in the TAC Cup this year, not only has an abundance of natural football ability, he is highly motivated to succeed at the game’s highest level.

“He is unbelievably football focused,” Jackson said.

“Despite leaving school early, he has had terrific life experiences and is a very hard worker.

“He is a nice country kid, very humble, but has a fanatical desire to be the best he can.

“When we told him we were taking him at pick three, he wanted to come to training on Friday and he was gutted to find out the players had the day off and wouldn’t be resuming training until Monday.

“He is just so eager to start with us.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/87537/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 26, 2009, 09:39:34 PM
see you Round 1 Dustin Martin!

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on November 26, 2009, 10:41:42 PM
Is there a picture with this kid in a tiger jumper yet?

Saw a picture of him sitting next to his dad at the draft, I reckon we sign him up aswell!! 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 27, 2009, 12:37:51 AM
see you Round 1 Dustin Martin!

 :)
No pressure  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2009, 12:46:33 AM
Good on you Dustin welcome to the club, you were always a Tiger mate, no doubt about that...... but you had better remain that way!! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2009, 12:49:37 AM
see you Round 1 Dustin Martin!

 :)
No pressure  ;D

He will be there MT and don't be surprised if a couple of our other new recruits are as well...... but no pressure.. ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2009, 02:10:59 AM
Dustin Martin's press conference

http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/51186/dustin+martin+press+conference/Default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/51186/dustin+martin+press+conference/Default.aspx)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 27, 2009, 02:30:08 AM
Dustin Martin's press conference

http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/51186/dustin+martin+press+conference/Default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/videoid/51186/dustin+martin+press+conference/Default.aspx)

any other way to watch this video?

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2009, 05:40:24 AM
Tigers draft tough nut
Scott Gullan | Herald Sun November 26, 2009 8:13PM

IT'S fair to say Richmond didn’t have to look far to work out if No.3 pick Dustin Martin would be tough.

If you met his father, Shane, you'd know why. Think tattoos and lots of them covering most of his body. He shares one with his son, it reads: 'Live Free. Die Free'.

"Me and Dad got it and it is just kind of a saying that we came up with together," Dustin, who has it in large writing on his stomach, explained.

"He's been a great support, as has all my family been. They have been a big part of getting me here tonight.”

The boy from Castlemaine has been tipped to go at No.3 for some time and it was confirmed a week ago when he got a visit from the Tigers recruiting boss Francis Jackson.

"It has been a long wait since draft camp, so it is good to get it over with," Martin said.

"People were telling me and I was reading it in the paper, but about a week ago Richmond came down to Bendigo and took us out for lunch.

"They told me they were going to take me with their first pick and it was a bit of a relief."

Martin is described as an attacking onballer with great balance and ball-winning ability, proficient on both sides of the body.

He averaged more than 24 disposals in the TAC Cup with the Bendigo Pioneers and earned All-Australian honours at the national championships.

Dare we say it, but he's been favourably compared with Joel Selwood, who came out of Bendigo three years ago in the first round and turned out to be one of the best young players ever.

Martin's appetite to be an AFL footballer has driven him since he decided to leave school in year nine and move to Sydney where he worked with his father.

All he had thought about for as long as he can remember is hearing his name read out at the AFl Draft.

Over the past month he has followed a training program given to him by his manager Ricky Nixon to give himself the best chance possible to play in Round 1 next year.

"My manager Ricky Nixon gave me a program and I think it was from Richmond," Martin said.

"They gave me a bit of a program so I have just been following that and trying to be as fit as I can leading into it.

“I can't wait to get to training and get as fit as I can and hopefully if I work hard I can get there in Round 1.

"If I keep working hard, treat my body right, work as hard as I can then we'll see what happens."

The 18-year-old is excited that he will be part of a new breed at Punt Rd with the Tigers having a new coaching staff and 10 picks in the draft.

"There will be a lot of youth there so it will be great to have a lot of young blokes around and new coaches," Martin said. "I can't wait."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-draft-tough-nut/story-e6frf9jf-1225804333762
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on November 27, 2009, 10:35:53 AM
^ Check the link dudes and buy yourself a H/S page 112

If the dude has copped any attitude from his old man he wont be putting up with too much  :shhit on the field.  :help
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 29, 2009, 08:57:13 AM
Nervous wait for Dustin
Luke West
Bendigo Advertiser
28 Nov, 2009


A WEEK before Thursday night’s AFL national draft, Dustin Martin had been told by Richmond that it would use its No.3 pick to select him.

But that didn’t help ease Martin’s nerves on Thursday when the draft began at the Melbourne Convention Centre.

With the first 10 picks unveiled in reverse order, Martin’s nerves were heightened when it came to selection four - the Fremantle Dockers.

While simply wanting to realise his dream of being selected on an AFL list, ideally, Martin didn’t want to have to pack up and move to the other side of the country to do so.

So when the Dockers called out Anthony Morabito’s name, Martin breathed a sigh of relief, before less than a minute later becoming a Tiger when Richmond snapped up the tough midfielder from the Bendigo Pioneers.

“It was really nerve-racking for the whole time waiting to see what would happen,’’ Martin told The Advertiser yesterday.

“Especially when it got to pick four and they were reading out Fremantle, because I was still a bit worried that I might get picked there.

“But when I got through that and then my name got called out at Richmond, it was just unbelievable and a big relief.

“It’s an unreal feeling and I can’t believe it; I just can’t wait to get started because there’s plenty of hard work ahead, which I’m looking forward to.’’

Martin will train with the Tigers for the first time on Monday.

Following his selection on Thursday, Martin had little time to sit back and soak it up as he was quickly whisked away to fulfil the large array of media interviews - two hours’ worth to be exact - that come with being such a high draft pick.

Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson says the Tigers have no doubt 18-year-old Martin - who only last year was playing for Castlemaine in the Bendigo Football League - is going to be a “fantastic player’’ for the club.

“We’re delighted with Dustin. He’s a very focused individual, he has a fantastic skill level and is gifted athletically,’’ Jackson told www.richmondfc.com.au

”I think as a recruiting manager when you take a player you just hope they’re going to be the best they can, and I don’t have one second of doubt that Dustin’s going to be a fantastic player.’’

Of the 40 AFL players selected at the national draft from the Pioneers since 1993, only Andrew Walker, who was taken by Carlton with pick No.2 in 2003, has been selected higher than Martin.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/nervous-wait-for-dustin/1690174.aspx?storypage=0
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on November 29, 2009, 10:18:18 AM
Good on him.  I was nervous as hell as well when they came to read out pick 4 during the draft.  Big sigh of relief when they said morabito.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 29, 2009, 07:16:05 PM
Ch 9 news tonight showed Martin's first RFC media conference and a journo asked to see his "live free, die free" tattoo on his stomach and the Club's media manager replied with "don't be effing ridiculous"  :-\

Ch 9 then showed pictures of Cuz shirtless with his "such is life" tatt being led away by the police and they said Cuz has something in common with Richmond's newest recruit  ::)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16376623&postcount=1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 1965 on November 29, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
Ch 9 news tonight showed Martin's first RFC media conference and a journo asked to see his "live free, die free" tattoo on his stomach and the Club's media manager replied with "don't be effing ridiculous"  :-\

Ch 9 then showed pictures of Cuz shirtless with his "such is life" tatt being led away by the police and they said Cuz has something in common with Richmond's newest recruit  ::)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16376623&postcount=1


GOD THE MEDIA ARE A PACK OF WANKERS.

 :banghead
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 29, 2009, 08:12:10 PM
^ Check the link dudes and buy yourself a H/S page 112

If the dude has copped any attitude from his old man he wont be putting up with too much  :shhit on the field.  :help

His old man look like a tough mofo  8)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 29, 2009, 09:16:26 PM
being an hour and half behind sometimes is an advantage, as such i got to see this incident. IMO the reaction from the media manager  was unprofessional. It made Dustin very uncomfortable to say the least. The station has then attempted a petty and even more unprofessional payback with the ben cousins ending.
Make up you own minds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1aPVsFVIw
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 29, 2009, 09:20:05 PM
being an hour and half behind sometimes is an advantage, as such i got to see this incident. IMO the reaction from the media manager  was unprofessional. It made Dustin very uncomfortable to say the least. The station has then attempted a petty and even more unprofessional payback with the ben cousins ending.
Make up you own minds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1aPVsFVIw

 ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 29, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
The media was stupid for asking the question - the kid's there to talk about beign drafted not about what scribble he has on his stomach

Very funny how that NIne only bothered to show that part of the interview and nothing else - speaks volumes IMHO

The reference to Benny Cousins was petty and childish

As for our media manager - I give her a pat on the back for at least having the guts to tell these nuffers to back off. Should she have used the "F" word probably not but (conveniently   on 9's behalf) we have no idea as to what had happened during the course of the day .....

End of the day - it's a nothing story created by the media again!  :sleep :sleep

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 29, 2009, 09:52:57 PM
Story on the Herald-Sun site already  ::).....

Uproar over Tiger Dustin Martin's tattoo
Daryl Timms From: Herald Sun November 29, 2009

RICHMOND clearly believes one high-profile player with emblazened tattoos is enough after cutting short inquiries on Dustin Martin's chest tattoos.

Martin has a large tattoo ''Live Free. Die Free'' inked on his chest and was repeatedly questions about it at a media call yesterday.

He said it was a motto followed him himself and his father, with the pair deciding to apply it to their bodies for life.
 
But when he was asked several times to lift his shirt by Channel Seven's Leith Mulligan a media minder stepped in, conscious of the club's image.A heated exchanged followed, with both sides unwilling to back down.

Ben Cousins continues to draw attention for his ''Such Is Life'' tattoo, but you get the feeling their no. 3 draft selection will be covering up at all times.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/uproar-over-tiger-dustin-martins-tattoo/story-e6frf9jf-1225805121728
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 29, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
As for our media manager

did not handle the situation well
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on November 30, 2009, 12:26:06 AM
Well good on her I reckon, about time someone told these clowns where to get off. I have actually met that lady last year when the Tiges were over here and she couldn't do enough for us regarding meeting the players.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 30, 2009, 12:39:31 AM
it was a very stupid thing to ask Dustin to do.

however not a great response! very unprofessional!

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on November 30, 2009, 12:50:44 AM
so it's confirmed that they had asked several times to see the tattoo??

that's fair enough then, good on the media manager. 

funny thing was the report said it was the channel 7 reporter who asked the question yet 7 didn't show the news, leaving channel 9 to do the dirty work.

at least channel 7 had the decency to not make a story out of it despite having a unresponsible reporter.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2009, 01:08:15 AM
What was said about Martin's footy ambitions at yesterday's media conference......

The Tigers' top pick at No.3 was midfielder Dustin Martin, an under-age All-Australian with great skills and a fierce determination.

Martin and his father Shane share a tattoo, "Live Free. Die Free", that the new Tiger has across his midriff.

"It's just me and my Dad - we want to live free and die free, that's about it," he said.

Martin is hopeful he can do enough pre-season work to put himself into the frame for a Round 1 debut against Carlton.

"Definitely. I just want to get out on the track and listen to my coaches and see what happens," he said.

"I am raring to go. They picked seven players so we are all in the same boat. We have these new facilities and new coaches. I can't wait."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-continue-high-player-turnover-with-rookie-picks/story-e6frf9jf-1225805144643
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-put-the-work-into-recruiting-dea-20091129-jyps.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 30, 2009, 06:46:54 AM
But when he was asked several times to lift his shirt by Channel Seven's Leith Mulligan a media minder stepped in, conscious of the club's image.A heated exchanged followed, with both sides unwilling to back down.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/uproar-over-tiger-dustin-martins-tattoo/story-e6frf9jf-1225805121728

So let me get this straight the question was asked by someone from Channel 7 not Channel 9 but Nine created a story out of nothing and Channel 7 just didn't bother with it...

Says it all really
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on November 30, 2009, 06:58:41 AM
Bit worried about Dustins Zoolander 'Cold Steel' impersonations, hope its a passing fad lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on November 30, 2009, 07:04:24 AM
Bit worried about Dustins Zoolander 'Cold Steel' impersonations, hope its a passing fad lol

It's just nerves Owl. I've seen him smile and he looks really happy when he does. No doubt he's a serious young man but he doesn't look like an extrovert. Reckon he's just hanging out until training starts. He's a boy who wants to play football. Hopefully all this media stuff doesn't set him back.

Needs to talk to Cuz about how to ignore them  :o ... then again maybe not  :-\  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 30, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
i am worried about one thing with Aston Martin.

personality clahes with team-mates.

i just hope his strong personality is only for match-time action!

 :)

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
Martin desperate to bare teeth
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen | Mon 30 November, 2009



DUSTIN Martin was taken by Richmond at number three in Thursday's NAB AFL Draft, but still looked a little disappointed on Sunday morning when he turned up at Punt Rd in his new black and gold polo shirt.

The reason? He'd just been told that there was no training, it was just a meet and greet.

The 18-year-old is a ferocious worker who can't wait to begin his AFL career, but he was assured by a club official that by the time the Christmas break arrived, he'd be rapt to have some time off.

Martin told a media conference a little later on that he was hanging out to get started with his new club.

"I've had a look around and it looks pretty good - I just can't wait," he said.

"I met the coach on Thursday night, and I've met a few of the other boys who got picked up, too.

"I just can't wait to get out and start training."

Martin is an attacking midfielder with a terrific ability to win his own ball and use it off either side of his body.

He averaged 21 possessions per game for Vic Country at the NAB AFL U18 Championships, was made All-Australian and averaged 25 disposals (nine contested) in the TAC Cup.

At draft camp he was second in both the beep test (14.1) and the 20m sprint, and equal second in the kicking test.

He said he knew about a week before the draft the Tigers were going to take him with their first pick.

"They had a few mock drafts and stuff like that, but about a week before the draft, Francis (Jackson, recruiting manager), and the recruiting team came to Bendigo.

"We went and played some golf and had some lunch, and they told me they were going to take with their first pick.

"That was a big relief - it made it a bit easier going to the draft."

The Tigers finished 15th last season, and new coach Damien Hardwick has swept the place out, allowing the Tigers to recruit seven new faces in the draft.

That means plenty of opportunity for the new kids, and Martin said he was hoping to impress enough over the pre-season to get a start in round one.

"Definitely - I just want to get out on the track and listen to the coaches and my teammates and do what I've got to do, and we'll see what happens.

"I think they picked up seven players, so we're all in the same boat.

"We're building new facilities, there's new coaches - it's going to be really good, I can't wait."

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/87671/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 30, 2009, 03:39:49 PM
Cousins
Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Tambling, Foley

 + Andy Collins
 
starting to look alright.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2009, 03:43:30 PM
Judith Donnelly (our media manager) was on SEN this morning and she said the media have been over the top since draft day about Martin's tattoo to the point some journos even wanted a joint photo of Dustin and his dad topless showing off their tatts. The media also kept pestering Martin and the Club about how many clubs called him "dumb" at draft camp etc. Judith said she found that sort of behaviour and questioning by the media disgusting. She regrets using colourful language and wouldn't use it if she had her time again but she said the club was happy with the job she did and Martin's dad called to thank her and the Club for looking after his kid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on November 30, 2009, 04:14:01 PM
Deledio
Foley
Cotchin
Cousins
Tambling
Foley
Collins
Martin
Tuck
Jackson

i would draft two more midfielders!

looking very nice considering their ages, they have a lot pressure on them to carry The Richmond Football Club!

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 30, 2009, 04:20:46 PM
2nd tier mids:

Connors
Polo
White
Edwards
Thomson
Hislop
Gilligan


if one or two or those can come good (Connors  :pray :pray) it'll help alot
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 02, 2009, 12:02:42 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 02, 2009, 12:07:29 AM
But when he was asked several times to lift his shirt by Channel Seven's Leith Mulligan a media minder stepped in, conscious of the club's image.A heated exchanged followed, with both sides unwilling to back down.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/uproar-over-tiger-dustin-martins-tattoo/story-e6frf9jf-1225805121728

So let me get this straight the question was asked by someone from Channel 7 not Channel 9 but Nine created a story out of nothing and Channel 7 just didn't bother with it...

Says it all really
At least the media will think twice about asking Dusty about his tatt again lol. Judith shouldn't have sworn but she was too smart for the journos. She knew the journos were trying to link Martin to Cuz as the next bad boy.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on December 02, 2009, 12:16:09 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 02, 2009, 01:23:12 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
I would say we'll be close to favourites given we'll have such a young and inexperienced side. We may surprise in the first month with everyone fit and fresh but over a long season young bodies get tired and sore and if we get a couple of key injuries I can't see us finishing outside the bottom 3. Not necessarily a bad thing long-term as it will at least enable us to stockpile some talented kids. Supporters will need to hang in for another couple of years before seeing this current young group mature and rise up the ladder.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on December 02, 2009, 01:38:13 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
I would say we'll be close to favourites given we'll have such a young and inexperienced side. We may surprise in the first month with everyone fit and fresh but over a long season young bodies get tired and sore and if we get a couple of key injuries I can't see us finishing outside the bottom 3. Not necessarily a bad thing long-term as it will at least enable up to stockpile some talented kids. Supporters will need to hang in for another couple of years before seeing this current young group mature and rise up the ladder.

fair enough MT, i think we will win more matches then this year, simply because who we are playing.

however, where do you think we will finish? (your final position prediction?)

and what draft picks would we get in "The 2010 AFL Draft".

i do expect pain in 2010.

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 02, 2009, 01:38:45 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
as it will at least enable up to stockpile some talented kids.

Will there be any left after the GC17 pillage next year MT??
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 02, 2009, 02:44:06 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
I would say we'll be close to favourites given we'll have such a young and inexperienced side. We may surprise in the first month with everyone fit and fresh but over a long season young bodies get tired and sore and if we get a couple of key injuries I can't see us finishing outside the bottom 3. Not necessarily a bad thing long-term as it will at least enable up to stockpile some talented kids. Supporters will need to hang in for another couple of years before seeing this current young group mature and rise up the ladder.

fair enough MT, i think we will win more matches then this year, simply because who we are playing.

however, where do you think we will finish? (your final position prediction?)

and what draft picks would we get in "The 2010 AFL Draft".

i do expect pain in 2010.

 :)
Well the wooden spooner ends up with picks 4, 27, 44, 61, 78, etc... Trade a player (to GC17) for another decent pick and it's not too dissimilar to a "normal" draft for a bottom club. Sure GC17 will be getting most of the top 15 kids as WAT says and there's no proriety picks available but compared to most of the existing clubs we'll be far better off in terms of picks. This year's draft was meant to be all gloom and doom but IMO it was still a decent draft. The worst thing we can do next year is finish 9th-11th and end up with our first pick in the mid-teens.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on December 02, 2009, 05:26:00 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
I would say we'll be close to favourites given we'll have such a young and inexperienced side. We may surprise in the first month with everyone fit and fresh but over a long season young bodies get tired and sore and if we get a couple of key injuries I can't see us finishing outside the bottom 3. Not necessarily a bad thing long-term as it will at least enable up to stockpile some talented kids. Supporters will need to hang in for another couple of years before seeing this current young group mature and rise up the ladder.

fair enough MT, i think we will win more matches then this year, simply because who we are playing.

however, where do you think we will finish? (your final position prediction?)

and what draft picks would we get in "The 2010 AFL Draft".

i do expect pain in 2010.

 :)
Well the wooden spooner ends up with picks 4, 27, 44, 61, 78, etc... Trade a player (to GC17) for another decent pick and it's not too dissimilar to a "normal" draft for a bottom club. Sure GC17 will be getting most of the top 15 kids as WAT says and there's no proriety picks available but compared to most of the existing clubs we'll be far better off in terms of picks. This year's draft was meant to be all gloom and doom but IMO it was still a decent draft. The worst thing we can do next year is finish 9th-11th and end up with our first pick in the mid-teens.

Luke McGuane is the only one weve got that Gold Coast may be interested in and he should be offered up for trade. What would McGuane get us?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: jackstar is back again on December 02, 2009, 06:20:01 AM
2nd tier mids:

Connors
Polo
White
Edwards
Thomson
Hislop
Gilligan


if one or two or those can come good (Connors  :pray :pray) it'll help alot

You do live in hope dont you ?
Edwards is the only one on that list that would get a game another club.
Connors ::) his aspirations are greater than his ability
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on December 02, 2009, 09:05:26 AM
2nd tier mids:

Connors
Polo
White
Edwards
Thomson
Hislop
Gilligan


if one or two or those can come good (Connors  :pray :pray) it'll help alot

You do live in hope dont you ?
Edwards is the only one on that list that would get a game another club.
Connors ::) his aspirations are greater than his ability

Edwards wont make it as a footballer Jack as long as he continues to be played in the back half. Push him forward FFS. Polo ditto

the rest are for the tip and wouldnt get a game with the collingwood reserves team
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on December 02, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
Bit much to put Cotchin & Martin as 1st tier mids and put Foley who was a standout for Victoria and played injured all of 2009 as a 2nd tier.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2009, 06:05:07 PM
Martin a brilliant ray of sunshine
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg | Wed 02 December, 2009



From the time former AFL player Jamie Elliott, in his then capacity as coach of Bendigo League club Castlemaine, first saw Dustin Martin strut his stuff on the football field, he knew the teenager had exceptional playing ability.

Elliott, who played 58 games of league football for Fitzroy, Richmond and St Kilda in a career spanning six seasons (1991-96), was in his first year as Castlemaine’s coach, in 2008, when a then 16-year-old Martin came under his coaching direction.

Castlemaine struggled in the ’08 season, winning only five of its 16 games, but it had a real shining light in Martin, who last week was taken by Richmond with its first selection (pick No. 3 overall) in the 2009 AFL National Draft.

Despite missing the last two games of the season, when he was called up by TAC Cup team, the Bendigo Pioneers, Martin won Castlemaine’s leading goalkicker award, with 22 goals.  Interestingly, 11 of those goals came in Martin’s final two games with the club - against Kyneton and eventual grand finalist Golden Square.  And, not surprisingly, Martin was a runaway winner of the competition’s rising star award that year.

“As a club we felt we needed to be pushing the kid to be where he should be, because you knew at that early stage he was pretty special, but he was too young to be drafted in 2008,” Elliott told the “Bendigo Advertiser”.

“He’s just a powerful, powerful kid; I used to do one-on-ones with him as a 16-year-old and he would just push me off the ball.

“I thought he could have played senior AFL football this year as a 17-year-old, no doubt.

“I’ve never seen a kid run into a pack of six or seven men and come out backwards with the ball . . . it’s not as though he was running through the pack, he would run in like a bull, grab the footy and run out backwards.

“There’s no doubt he’s the best kid I’ve seen play at that age; he’s just a phenomenal talent.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/87764/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 29, 2010, 03:09:56 PM
I know Kevin Sheehan pumps up the tyres of all the new draftees but here is what he said about Dusty....



Dustin Martin looks a rising star. He's a magnificent kick. He wins his own ball, he has a powerful body, he is no frills and is straight at it. I'll be surprised if he doesn't start straight away and he'll excite the Tiger fans, no doubt.

http://www.afl.com.au/dreamteam/kevinsheehanlivechat/tabid/15698/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 30, 2010, 02:15:42 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
Bit much to put Cotchin & Martin as 1st tier mids and put Foley who was a standout for Victoria and played injured all of 2009 as a 2nd tier.


I thought Foley fell away after his Vic game in 2008 and has been nowhere near his early 2008 form since. An injury plagued year for Axel and an injury free year for Cotch as well as a the descriptions were right on Martin and Foley could go even further down the pecking order. I even think Cousins is well ahead of him too.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on January 30, 2010, 04:26:34 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
pretty much agree with those ratings mt.  of bentleigh list i would say thomson is the one we need most to become a player. how many big bodied inside players do we have again.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on January 30, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.

Pick 4 MT? you think we are going to finish with The Wooden Spoon?

 :)
I would say we'll be close to favourites given we'll have such a young and inexperienced side. We may surprise in the first month with everyone fit and fresh but over a long season young bodies get tired and sore and if we get a couple of key injuries I can't see us finishing outside the bottom 3. Not necessarily a bad thing long-term as it will at least enable us to stockpile some talented kids. Supporters will need to hang in for another couple of years before seeing this current young group mature and rise up the ladder.
agree again mt well said.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on January 30, 2010, 04:31:40 PM

 :)
Well the wooden spooner ends up with picks 4, 27, 44, 61, 78, etc... Trade a player (to GC17) for another decent pick and it's not too dissimilar to a "normal" draft for a bottom club. Sure GC17 will be getting most of the top 15 kids as WAT says and there's no proriety picks available but compared to most of the existing clubs we'll be far better off in terms of picks. This year's draft was meant to be all gloom and doom but IMO it was still a decent draft. The worst thing we can do next year is finish 9th-11th and end up with our first pick in the mid-teens.
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sheesh again agree well said.
just one thing i was under the impression 2nd rnd pps were still happening.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on January 30, 2010, 05:04:54 PM
just one thing i was under the impression 2nd rnd pps were still happening.
I don't think so, pretty sure all PPs are on hold
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 30, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
2nd tier mids:

Connors
Polo
White
Edwards
Thomson
Hislop
Gilligan


if one or two or those can come good (Connors  :pray :pray) it'll help alot

You do live in hope dont you ?
Edwards is the only one on that list that would get a game another club.
Connors ::) his aspirations are greater than his ability

Where do you live? West Sydney?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 30, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
pretty much agree with those ratings mt.  of bentleigh list i would say thomson is the one we need most to become a player. how many big bodied inside players do we have again.

Tuck
Jackson
Deledio
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on January 31, 2010, 11:51:34 AM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
pretty much agree with those ratings mt.  of bentleigh list i would say thomson is the one we need most to become a player. how many big bodied inside players do we have again.

Tuck
Jackson
Deledio
so we have tuck a genuine inside extractor of the ball from packs.they tried to trade him because he lacks quality.

jackson sheesh half rate him half dont. sorry im one who doesnt. goes okay as a run with player where  hes taken to the ball.no smarts  poor decision maker and uses the ball poorly far to often. i would go so far as to say hes not a midfielders backside.
one thing with him he is a big body if he can be taught to block and shepherd at the clinches and create space for his more talented teammates and he can shut down opponents he may be worth persevering with me id rather try and attain a more rounded player.
.
deledio well he does win his fair share of footy but hes more outside and hes no true extractor or grunt player.just like martin cotchin cuz  you want deledio with ball in hand on the outside the thing is they can all win their own ball its this that has them rated so highly.

we have 3 genuine inside extractors foley, tuck, and thomson, its why tuck has survived so long on our list. there has been no other of his type other than foley and cogs who has hardly played a game for yrs now. we actually have a kid called contin who fits the bill but hes on the rookie list and wonder of wonders he can actually kick well. the problem is he will take a little while.
already foley is injured and we are down to just tuck and thomson for the opener.

anyway we disagree you obviously think we have enough extractors of quality. or just plain enough extractors regardless of quality.
 me i think i would like to upgrade if possible on at least one tuck, possibly two if thomson fails this yr.

to my way of thinking if tuck is below standard and he is in many areas, it leaves atm only foley who is ready to play and up to standard, and this means we need thomson to step up and prove himself at this level.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 01, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
Talk about putting pressure and unrealistic expectations on a first year kid. Supporters ringing up SEN claiming Martin will be our best player and will win our B&F this year  :-\
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on February 01, 2010, 02:29:30 PM
Talk about putting pressure and unrealistic expectations on a first year kid. Supporters ringing up SEN claiming Martin will be our best player and will win our B&F this year  :-\

I heard that, I think there was a communication breakdown. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSWNvHD1R8)

I think the guy that phoned in was saying that Martin will eventually end up being our best player and Robbo thought he meant this year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 01, 2010, 02:36:02 PM
Too many ifs on most of those 2nd tier mids. Cuz and Tucky aren't long-term options either in the 1st tier category. Tucky isn't a 1st tier mid but due to our lack of depth he was played as one. If Griffiths and Astbury can show enough to suggest they'll be long-term tall prospects I would say we will target another gun mid with our first pick in next year's draft.

1st tier: Lids, Cotch, Martin, 2010 pick 4?

2nd tier: Foley, Collins, Blingers

3rd tier: Jacko, Connors, etc ....

Our midfield is slowly getting there and they'll all have their best years ahead of them together.
pretty much agree with those ratings mt.  of bentleigh list i would say thomson is the one we need most to become a player. how many big bodied inside players do we have again.

Tuck
Jackson
Deledio
so we have tuck a genuine inside extractor of the ball from packs.they tried to trade him because he lacks quality.

jackson sheesh half rate him half dont. sorry im one who doesnt. goes okay as a run with player where  hes taken to the ball.no smarts  poor decision maker and uses the ball poorly far to often. i would go so far as to say hes not a midfielders backside.
one thing with him he is a big body if he can be taught to block and shepherd at the clinches and create space for his more talented teammates and he can shut down opponents he may be worth persevering with me id rather try and attain a more rounded player.
.
deledio well he does win his fair share of footy but hes more outside and hes no true extractor or grunt player.just like martin cotchin cuz  you want deledio with ball in hand on the outside the thing is they can all win their own ball its this that has them rated so highly.

we have 3 genuine inside extractors foley, tuck, and thomson, its why tuck has survived so long on our list. there has been no other of his type other than foley and cogs who has hardly played a game for yrs now. we actually have a kid called contin who fits the bill but hes on the rookie list and wonder of wonders he can actually kick well. the problem is he will take a little while.
already foley is injured and we are down to just tuck and thomson for the opener.

anyway we disagree you obviously think we have enough extractors of quality. or just plain enough extractors regardless of quality.
 me i think i would like to upgrade if possible on at least one tuck, possibly two if thomson fails this yr.

to my way of thinking if tuck is below standard and he is in many areas, it leaves atm only foley who is ready to play and up to standard, and this means we need thomson to step up and prove himself at this level.

I never said anything of the sort  :-\
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on February 06, 2010, 03:04:16 AM
Based on yesterday, Scully and Trengove must be bloody good footballers and physically ready-made if they were considered clearly ahead of Martin in the draft.

(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/198120.jpg)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 06, 2010, 06:45:27 AM

(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7214994,00.jpg)

They must have lots of potential, they certainly don't look as ready as Martin does.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 06, 2010, 12:34:26 PM
Well maybe, just bloody maybe, we may have pulled off the Franklin/Pavlich draw for a change, lets hope so and then the media can spend the next 50 million years giving crap to Melbourne!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 06, 2010, 12:46:22 PM
Dustin looks like he is in early twenties in looks and body size.  :thumbsup

Put him in another jumper and some on here might mistakenly take him for someone else and he's already had 50 AFL games under his belt.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 06, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Dustin looks like he is in early twenties in looks and body size.  :thumbsup

Put him in another jumper and some on here might mistakenly take him for someone else and he's already had 50 AFL games under his belt.

Dead right, for once IMO we have picked up the Daniel Rich of the draft.. :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 06, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
Looking at that he's going to have a problem of being too big as opposed to too slight.
Massive unit.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 07, 2010, 12:46:33 PM
or it could go the other way people. morabito is about 5cm taller 5 kg heavier a little more streamlined and in time will be capable of doing what goodes does for sydney or even pavlich  his teammate. that is play kp if need be.
i still maintain the greatest upside of any of the top 4 taken this yr is morabito.
i have no doubt he will play rnd one this yr as well.
from what i can see both will be very good players but it would be a bummer if morabito makes it and martin doesnt.

in fact freos midfield is taking shape quite nicely.hill palmer ibbotson morabito suban haselby it sort of goes to show its not just about improving your list but doing better than everyone else we forget all clubs keep on improving.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on February 07, 2010, 01:30:27 PM
or it could go the other way people. morabito is about 5cm taller 5 kg heavier a little more streamlined and in time will be capable of doing what goodes does for sydney or even pavlich  his teammate. that is play kp if need be.
i still maintain the greatest upside of any of the top 4 taken this yr is morabito.
i have no doubt he will play rnd one this yr as well.
from what i can see both will be very good players but it would be a bummer if morabito makes it and martin doesnt.

in fact freos midfield is taking shape quite nicely.hill palmer ibbotson morabito suban haselby it sort of goes to show its not just about improving your list but doing better than everyone else we forget all clubs keep on improving.

Morabito might end up being the next Adam Goodes but he might end up being the next Des Headland.  As far as risk for return goes, Martin, Scully and Trengove are a lot safer investment - that's why he didn't go until #4 (and might have even been later if Freo had a later pick).  We couldn't afford to take risks with our early pick.

And as for midfields taking shape - ignoring Haselby and Cousins who will both be gone in 2 seasons, I'll back Deledio, Tambling, Cotchin, Martin, Foley, Jackson and Collins against them any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 07, 2010, 02:50:31 PM
or it could go the other way people. morabito is about 5cm taller 5 kg heavier a little more streamlined and in time will be capable of doing what goodes does for sydney or even pavlich  his teammate. that is play kp if need be.
i still maintain the greatest upside of any of the top 4 taken this yr is morabito.
i have no doubt he will play rnd one this yr as well.
from what i can see both will be very good players but it would be a bummer if morabito makes it and martin doesnt.

in fact freos midfield is taking shape quite nicely.hill palmer ibbotson morabito suban haselby it sort of goes to show its not just about improving your list but doing better than everyone else we forget all clubs keep on improving.

Morabito might end up being the next Adam Goodes but he might end up being the next Des Headland.  As far as risk for return goes, Martin, Scully and Trengove are a lot safer investment - that's why he didn't go until #4 (and might have even been later if Freo had a later pick).  We couldn't afford to take risks with our early pick.

And as for midfields taking shape - ignoring Haselby and Cousins who will both be gone in 2 seasons, I'll back Deledio, Tambling, Cotchin, Martin, Foley, Jackson and Collins against them any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
have to say im not having a go at martin in fact quite happy to have him. but if people think there was much between morabito martin scully and trengove they are kidding themselves.
he was the standout at u18s  played against men and done well also.  
performance against peers he stacks up better than any of them.  hes of a height and size that will enable him  to play both tall and midfield  thus has more versatility.
i have no doubt martins footskills got him taken at 3 instead of morabito. morabito was never going to slip lower than pick 4 and it would have come as no surprise to see him go higher.

hmm the two midfields in going forward as Hardwick  likes to say. i would  give it to our lot but there isnt a lot in it.

in deledio, cotchin (who has done nothing to date because of injury) and martin i think we have real quality and better ball users.
but with hill morabito and palmer they have a running brigade that could be awesome.palmers kicking is a worry though.add suban and ibbotson who i have no doubt will be good players their mid field moving forward is looking decent. without doubt they could do with a dustin martin type.
 atm they have far better structure forward especially if pavlich plays forward permanently and back with solid kpds in johnson grover mcpharlin and tarrant it could well be one of these 4 will play forward. and with sandilands a dominant ruckman.
with a massive  home ground advantage i think they may surprise a few this yr.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on February 07, 2010, 07:26:12 PM
Massive blue by Freo to take Hill ahead of Rich though. In finals when the game is far more in tight and contested the difference will become more apparent. Rich was always a man-child while Hill is highly skillful but he has a very slight body which doesn't appear to be the type that will fill out.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 07, 2010, 11:04:37 PM
or it could go the other way people. morabito is about 5cm taller 5 kg heavier a little more streamlined and in time will be capable of doing what goodes does for sydney or even pavlich  his teammate. that is play kp if need be.
i still maintain the greatest upside of any of the top 4 taken this yr is morabito.
i have no doubt he will play rnd one this yr as well.
from what i can see both will be very good players but it would be a bummer if morabito makes it and martin doesnt.

in fact freos midfield is taking shape quite nicely.hill palmer ibbotson morabito suban haselby it sort of goes to show its not just about improving your list but doing better than everyone else we forget all clubs keep on improving.

and morabito kicking is like Leon Cameron

and he is a very good looking young man

 :cheers

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Con65 on February 07, 2010, 11:16:14 PM
I just got back tonight from a week over in wa....Hill has put on about 5 or 6 kgs...he will play this year between 75 and 78 kg.

They have a special player in Hill....as for Rich...a few other clubs also passed on him before he got to Brissy....Hill was probably seen as having more upside than Rich...but IMHO if you got 10 years of Rich's form from last  year you would be happy...:)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tigersalive on February 08, 2010, 08:03:43 AM
and morabito kicking is like Leon Cameron


Good jokes?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 10, 2010, 01:13:54 AM
Richmond's Dustin Martin gets his go
* Jon Ralph
 * Herald Sun
 * February 10, 2010


RICHMOND's No. 3 draft pick Dustin Martin is considered certain play against Hawthorn on Saturday, with forward Troy Taylor also in the mix.

The new-look Tigers kick off their NAB Cup campaign in Launceston, but despite 14 new names at the club, only a handful of players will debut.

Ben Cousins is unlikely to play, and Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson and Nathan Foley are already ruled out as they manage injuries.

But, besides that quartet, new coach Damien Hardwick will pick the side on merit.

Taylor has a preliminary court hearing on February 18 for his assault charge, so the club will not make a decision on his short-term future until then.

St Kilda's Andrew Lovett has been suspended by his club while awaiting a police investigation into a potential rape charge.

Though the Tigers have not suspended Taylor, the AFL has been kept abreast of their management of the first-year tall.

Martin's impressive pre-season and intra-club form will see him rewarded, with recent draftee David Astbury also some chance to play.

Trent Cotchin will play after a managed pre-season, while rookie Graham Polak is likely to be given another chance to impress with a senior-listed spot up for grabs.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-dustin-martin-gets-his-go/story-e6frf9jf-1225828494176
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on February 13, 2010, 10:50:45 PM
Despite the flogging I think we can safely say we got it right taking Martin at pick 3.

First game and he's our top possession winner - 11 kicks (8 effective), 15 handballs, 5 marks, 5 tackles and also had our most inside 50s with 7 and 3 rebounds out of defensive 50. Going to be a special player if he keeps that up most weeks.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 13, 2010, 11:19:38 PM
Will be top 2 in the rising star this year as a minimum.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on February 14, 2010, 12:28:56 AM
It amazing how everyone thinks they can predict the future when tipping the draft..

John Butcher this Moribitto this.

Martin was clearly the best.

Just hope he grows into a very very good servant of the club. Excpectations are through the roof it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: taztiger4 on February 14, 2010, 12:31:40 AM
Will be top 2 in the rising star this year as a minimum.

So was Andrew Raines !!!,

Great first up game by Slim though
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 14, 2010, 06:13:30 AM
After last night Martin is back to equal favouritism with Naitanui for the Rising Star award

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/event/SportID/4/CompetitionPID/22727/RoundPID/433/EventID/1068255
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 14, 2010, 09:19:43 AM
this yr will be a long hard one again

but watching mrtin play will be worth it and mak eth eyr a better one

for once we picked the right player.. about effing time

its gonna be great seeing cuz, martin deledio  and cotchas our main 4 in the middle
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 14, 2010, 09:23:59 AM
Martin, Deledio, Cotchin and Cousins need to not get injuries this year

 :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 14, 2010, 12:21:43 PM
Will be top 2 in the rising star this year as a minimum.

So was Andrew Raines !!!,

Great first up game by Slim though

I think the diffence between Raines and Martin are quite apparent. Raines is not in the same ball park. Raines is a one trick pony and was horribly exposed post that one good year he had. Martin showed last night he has many strings to his bow.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 14, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
MARTIN WILL BE A FREAK!
HE AND COTCHIN WILL BE THE BEST DUO IN THE MIDFEILD MARK IT DOWN
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 14, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
Yeah not much more to say about this kid, amazing.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on February 14, 2010, 11:58:36 PM
yes! he can play!

 :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 26, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
Everyone loves Dusty.....

[Comment From RooRoo: ]  Thoughts on dustin martin in the midfield??

[ Wayne Schwass: ] He is an absolute gone (sic. gun). He will definitely be in my (dream) team. He has a mature body, will play a lot of footy and he knows how to find it.

http://www.afl.com.au/dreamteam/wayneschwasslivechat/tabid/15805/default.aspx

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: F0551L on February 26, 2010, 02:15:25 PM
expecting "aston" to back up on last fortnights game with another 20+ polished disposals dont think the fact we are versing the premiers to  make any difference to his game
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 26, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
expecting "aston" to back up on last fortnights game with another 20+ polished disposals dont think the fact we are versing the premiers to  make any difference to his game

Hope that they put Cling on him and he towels him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 10, 2010, 10:47:19 PM
Any more where Dusty comes from?! Fantastic game against a side that prides itself on contested footy. Won the ball, won the clearances and a Tiger who can actual kick well.

The only negative is the poor kid will cop a heavy tag even before he reaches 10 games.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on April 10, 2010, 10:55:59 PM
Any more where Dusty comes from?! Fantastic game against a side that prides itself on contested footy. Won the ball, won the clearances and a Tiger who can actual kick well.

The only negative is the poor kid will cop a heavy tag even before he reaches 10 games.

Agree and I said in another thread we need to protect him by playing him towards say 11  games this season 14 at a maximum. lets not stuff up the kids development.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on April 10, 2010, 11:51:06 PM
This boy is going to embarress our list by winning the best and fairest in his first season.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 11, 2010, 01:37:35 AM
This boy is going to embarress our list by winning the best and fairest in his first season.

Most of the players he embarasses will be playing suburban footy next year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 11, 2010, 02:04:00 AM
wait until his balls drop.
Will be a cross between voss and Judd.

Makes deledio look exactly what he is-lazy.

Dustin,ur the best on the list kid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on April 11, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
Mind you lets not forget that 3 or 4 of his kicks last night missed the target by a long way, so its no all good nevertheless he shows some outstanding ability.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 11, 2010, 11:23:03 AM
I think him and the other recruits are still trying to come to terms with the pace of the game. He also missed a few goals, but I hope he keeps trying to kick those 60 m goals. He has the skills to pull it off. How good was that 60 m pass to Jack?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on April 11, 2010, 11:25:20 AM
I think him and the other recruits are still trying to come to terms with the pace of the game. He also missed a few goals, but I hope he keeps trying to kick those 60 m goals. He has the skills to pull it off. How good was that 60 m pass to Jack?

Not concerned with the long shots at goal, some only missed by afew inches, it was some of his field kicking around the middle of the park and out to the wings which missed targets by a fair way.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 11, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
In the four times i've seen him he has made some disposal errors that surprised me. For similar reasons that I'm not concerned by the missed long goals, at this stage I cut him a bit of slack with those errors. If he was still making them next year I would be concerned. I think it just takes new recruits a while to adjust to the pace of the game and therefore judge better when they have time to settle.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Hardwick on Dusty in EOTT

"Dustin Martin was good again, winning another five or six clearances.  I think he’s eighth in the competition at the moment in the clearances’ category  :o, so he’s going really well from that point of view.  We’ve just got to make sure that he gets some more ball around the ground.  He’s probably struggling a bit outside the contest at the moment, but, in time, he’ll learn his patterns and where to run, and bolster this part of his game."

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/ARCHIVEPAGES/SecureSignonTest/GreenbergsGrabs/tabid/15918/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 16, 2010, 02:31:56 PM
8th already

by the end of the yr will be top 5

next yr no1!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on April 16, 2010, 02:34:02 PM
Last week against the Swans he got off a few long shots at goal. That tells me that he's working to the right spots and using his main weapon, the kick, a bit more.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: camboon on April 16, 2010, 02:42:59 PM
And not nominated of rising star yet
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Carvels Ring on April 16, 2010, 03:41:01 PM
And not nominated of rising star yet

funny that
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on April 16, 2010, 04:07:42 PM
This is a pretty clever bit of photoshopping here of Dustin, really does have the eye of the tiger!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brocknroll/4310360109/in/pool-richmondfc

I have a feeling Dusty will take it to Melbourne on Sunday... i wonder if trengrove or scully will get a job tagging him?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on April 16, 2010, 04:20:48 PM
You get that feeling that Martin is one of those types that may just want to make that bit more of a statement playing against 2 dudes who were picked up before him. You know just to prove a point, not so much to anyone else but maybe just himself. Hope he doesn't kill anyone  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 08, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
Reported on MMM. Offering $500k per season. Sheedy keen to get him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 08, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
western sydney is a hole from what i understand, why on earth would any young bloke wanna go there- even for 500k.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 08, 2010, 03:52:58 PM
Reported on MMM. Offering $500k per season. Sheedy keen to get him.

psssst, don;t tell anyone but he'll be our second/top highest earner once he's out of contract...500k/season a piece of pee
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 08, 2010, 03:53:58 PM
Sheeds couldn't possibly do this it would destroy us. And I'll punch his stuffen face in if I see him. :banghead
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 08, 2010, 03:56:41 PM
Of course they want him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 08, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
Sheeds couldn't possibly do this it would destroy us. And I'll punch his stuffen face in if I see him. :banghead

Sheeds not a Richmond person - hasnt been for a long time, his disappointment in not gettingt he job at RFC is probably enough motivation for him to do us damage. Anyway stuff him ... RFC supporters are wasting there time talking about that bloke!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 08, 2010, 04:06:02 PM
there;s reports that he actually signed with us for 3 yrs which would keep him from harms way, I know that scully and trengrove did
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 08, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
there;s reports that he actually signed with us for 3 yrs which would keep him from harms way, I know that scully and trengrove did
Yep Dusty signed until 2012. GWS and sheeds can go and get stuffed  ;D.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 08, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
phew - ya see that's why I rely on this site so much - I dont pay enough attention (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy014.gif)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 08, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
western sydney is a hole from what i understand, why on earth would any young bloke wanna go there- even for 500k.

Yeh i live in sydney and its like depressing to go out west ... But don't think dusty would want to leave Melb
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on May 08, 2010, 04:34:10 PM
Says heaps about the man
What a jerk Sheeds is  :banghead
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 08, 2010, 06:51:28 PM
Ge the new franchises are a circus.

Words cant describe what Richmond supporters would do if Martin was lost to GWS. We have enough room in salary cap to match 500k anyway.

The AFL should disallow players under the age of 20 to be poached. 500k in front of a 17/18 year old is a farce. Should never be allowed, an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on May 08, 2010, 06:59:15 PM
ad nausuem where Kevin is concerned..
lets hope the AFL get emough bang for their buck.
otherwise some heads will :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 08, 2010, 07:37:14 PM


Honestly what would the Tiger fans do if it did happen ? Strong letters do crap all ...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 08, 2010, 09:42:48 PM
Just like Cotch had no intention of going to GC Dustin won't be going to GWS.
Sheeds is useless to AFL now he is an ancient relic and should channel his energy in trying to lure a Bombers star in order to derail their rebuild.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 12, 2010, 12:21:26 AM
Richmond pounces on young gun Dustin Martin
Michael Warner From: Herald Sun May 12, 2010 12:00AM

RICHMOND has launched contract negotiations with budding star Dustin Martin just six games into his AFL career.

 With cashed-up Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney recruiters circling, the Tigers have moved quickly to secure the services of their most talented teenager. They have already signed fellow "untouchables" Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin to long-term deals.

In the depths of a dismal first year under coach Damien Hardwick, a third marquee signing would give hope to long-suffering Richmond fans. TAB Sportsbet yesterday rated the Tigers a $6 chance to go through the season without a win - a feat last "achieved" by North Melbourne in 1931.

Martin, pick No. 3 in last year's national draft, is contracted to the end of 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus payments of $2800 for every match. His earnings could rocket if the Tigers, now paying close to the minimum 92.5 per cent of the salary cap, offer a new deal. Richmond officials yesterday confirmed talks had started with Martin's manager Ricky Nixon.

The move follows Fremantle's decision in April to sign gun mature-age rookie Michael Barlow to a long-term deal after just two games as a Docker. Essendon and the Western Bulldogs yesterday confirmed new deals for stars Jobe Watson and Adam Cooney, leaving Gary Ablett the last uncontracted big fish.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pounces-on-young-gun-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225865257456

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 12, 2010, 12:22:58 AM
Very good Richmond, very good, another POSITIVE move from the club. Gee what a great club we are going to be, very good to have proactive thinkers down there!!!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 12, 2010, 07:04:50 AM
Totally agree
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 12, 2010, 08:47:15 AM
agree. Great work by the club

someone must have been listening to tripleM Saturday as they were all over it. GC17 chasing Martin. A few days later BANG!! Tigers aim to put a stop to that.





Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on May 12, 2010, 09:01:06 AM
Bloody hope so he hasn't even been here a year yet... sheesh..
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 12, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
Clearly a big part of our future. Good to see the club isn't mucking around.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 12, 2010, 12:20:41 PM
Is this another bad decision by the club panicking & putting huge value on a 1st year player.
Being a businessman its not something l would do.  It can be damaging in several different ways.
Although l dont see any reason why Martin wont be a 10 year player for the Tigers, it could also send the wrong message to him.
l just see thier decision a very bad one & could be damaging.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: HD on May 12, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
Is this another bad decision by the club panicking & putting huge value on a 1st year player.
Being a businessman its not something l would do.  It can be damaging in several different ways.
Although l dont see any reason why Martin wont be a 10 year player for the Tigers, it could also send the wrong message to him.
l just see thier decision a very bad one & could be damaging.

I personally think this is a positive, but I see where you are coming from Monk - it does seem a little knee-jerk reactive to reports GC17 were interested in Martin.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 12, 2010, 02:22:44 PM
well they have made the decision & l'm happy about it cause his got some great ability
But business sence gee its a huge call to make & must have been on the boardroom table for some time
Can tell you Gary March is not a great businessman  ;D & a airhead 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Con65 on May 12, 2010, 03:08:41 PM
Can tell you Gary March is not a great businessman  ;D & a airhead 

is that personal insult needed or warranted....NO

is that personal insult even correct...NO

some people just like to read their own words on a computer screen ...and think it is gospel cos they said it...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 12, 2010, 03:47:35 PM
Richmond pounces on young gun Dustin Martin
Michael Warner From: Herald Sun May 12, 2010 12:00AM

RICHMOND has launched contract negotiations with budding star Dustin Martin just six games into his AFL career.

 With cashed-up Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney recruiters circling, the Tigers have moved quickly to secure the services of their most talented teenager. They have already signed fellow "untouchables" Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin to long-term deals.

In the depths of a dismal first year under coach Damien Hardwick, a third marquee signing would give hope to long-suffering Richmond fans. TAB Sportsbet yesterday rated the Tigers a $6 chance to go through the season without a win - a feat last "achieved" by North Melbourne in 1931.

Martin, pick No. 3 in last year's national draft, is contracted to the end of 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus payments of $2800 for every match. His earnings could rocket if the Tigers, now paying close to the minimum 92.5 per cent of the salary cap, offer a new deal. Richmond officials yesterday confirmed talks had started with Martin's manager Ricky Nixon.

The move follows Fremantle's decision in April to sign gun mature-age rookie Michael Barlow to a long-term deal after just two games as a Docker. Essendon and the Western Bulldogs yesterday confirmed new deals for stars Jobe Watson and Adam Cooney, leaving Gary Ablett the last uncontracted big fish.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pounces-on-young-gun-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225865257456



sorry WA, but dosent it say "In the depths of a dismal first year under coach Damien Hardwick, a third marquee signing would give hope to long-suffering Richmond fans. TAB Sportsbet yesterday rated the Tigers a $6 chance to go through the season without a win - a feat last "achieved" by Fitzroy in 1964."??
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 12, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Can tell you Gary March is not a great businessman  ;D & a airhead 

is that personal insult needed or warranted....NO

is that personal insult even correct...NO

some people just like to read their own words on a computer screen ...and think it is gospel cos they said it...


Oh do you know about his business adventures do you  ;D google it if you dont  :rollin con -artist
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 12, 2010, 11:37:02 PM
Richmond pounces on young gun Dustin Martin
Michael Warner From: Herald Sun May 12, 2010 12:00AM

RICHMOND has launched contract negotiations with budding star Dustin Martin just six games into his AFL career.

 With cashed-up Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney recruiters circling, the Tigers have moved quickly to secure the services of their most talented teenager. They have already signed fellow "untouchables" Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin to long-term deals.

In the depths of a dismal first year under coach Damien Hardwick, a third marquee signing would give hope to long-suffering Richmond fans. TAB Sportsbet yesterday rated the Tigers a $6 chance to go through the season without a win - a feat last "achieved" by North Melbourne in 1931.

Martin, pick No. 3 in last year's national draft, is contracted to the end of 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus payments of $2800 for every match. His earnings could rocket if the Tigers, now paying close to the minimum 92.5 per cent of the salary cap, offer a new deal. Richmond officials yesterday confirmed talks had started with Martin's manager Ricky Nixon.

The move follows Fremantle's decision in April to sign gun mature-age rookie Michael Barlow to a long-term deal after just two games as a Docker. Essendon and the Western Bulldogs yesterday confirmed new deals for stars Jobe Watson and Adam Cooney, leaving Gary Ablett the last uncontracted big fish.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pounces-on-young-gun-dustin-martin/story-e6frf9jf-1225865257456



sorry WA, but dosent it say "In the depths of a dismal first year under coach Damien Hardwick, a third marquee signing would give hope to long-suffering Richmond fans. TAB Sportsbet yesterday rated the Tigers a $6 chance to go through the season without a win - a feat last "achieved" by Fitzroy in 1964."??

Sorry I don't understand your point???? I didn't actually write the article.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2010, 04:49:35 AM
Tiger cub Martin making the most of Middle Park
MARK HAWTHORNE
May 19, 2010


RICHMOND fans will be happy to hear the club is keeping a close eye on first-round draft pick Dustin Martin.

Indeed, club president Gary March couldn't keep closer tabs on the teenager, who is rumoured to be on the shopping list for Greater Western Sydney.

March has let the 17-year-old move into his impressive Middle Park House. Martin, the No. 3 pick in last year's draft, has looked an outstanding prospect in his seven games for the Tigers this season. So impressive, that the cashed-up expansion sides have targeted him, with some rather silly salary figures being bandied about.

The rookie is contracted to the end if 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus a $2800 match fee. The Tigers are on the front foot and negotiating a new deal. Sources at Richmond said the move into the president's home has nothing to do with any off-field problems, but the country boy, who has the motto ''Live Free. Die Free'' tattooed on his chest, was still adjusting to city life.

''There's nothing sinister, he's a quality young kid,'' Sporting Life was told. ''He just wanted a home environment after moving down from Bendigo.'' And the last Tigers player to reside there? That would be one Ben Cousins - another man with a rather significant tattoo - who used March's house for a month when he first joined the club. March and his family were overseas at the time.

Martin is expected to inhabit Cousins' old room until the end of the season.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/fc-st-pauli-in-a-league-of-its-own-20100518-vc9y.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 25, 2010, 06:57:48 PM
Rumour according to Russel on 3aw with Healy and Caro is GWS will offer Martin $800k a year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on May 25, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
Rumour according to Russel on 3aw with Healy and Caro is GWS will offer Martin $800k a year.

ooo wow, if you increase the figure does that make the rumour more plausible???

If Geelong can keeps the likes of Selwood in their side of stars, surely we can keep Martin in a team of kids and expendables!!

Wait until he gets a win and sings the song, not going anywhere!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 25, 2010, 09:08:29 PM
MT, has he actually signed with us, is it factual?? If not these vultures need to keep their dirty little mitts off our players IMHO. This is just out of control, the RFC need to act on Martin before the end of the week, act as quick as they did with Cotchin.

Like they not getting enough with their draft picks, also, if we have to offer Martin some monumental amount of money it may hinder our own trade chances/recruiting come the end of the year. While Martin is worth or is going to be worth whatever, we can not keep him at the detriment of our future IMO, how dedecated he is to our club will show.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 25, 2010, 09:47:11 PM
Rumour according to Russel on 3aw with Healy and Caro is GWS will offer Martin $800k a year.

I dont know about u guys but its generally frowned upon if a player goes to another team for money not like the rugby  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 25, 2010, 10:06:43 PM
Money is being offered to players now and they are rejecting GC17 where at least GC is kind of nice to take your kids and go to the theme parks. What has GWS have going for it. Not footy heartland at all. Kids like Martin have grown up in footy towns and have footy running through their veins. To go to GWS would be the equivalent of footy withdrawal. Just shows how desperate they are.  If Martin signs for us expect someone else from last years draft to be the new must have.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 25, 2010, 10:16:15 PM
This just smells of an old man who is following the same road as one KB before him and trying to screw our club over after we didnt select him.

KS is the new KB. See you in 15 years when you decide to come back through the front door again. They can all go get fked as far as im concerned.

Sheeds is doing this for Sheeds not for GWS lets be clear
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 25, 2010, 10:17:11 PM
Money is being offered to players now and they are rejecting GC17 where at least GC is kind of nice to take your kids and go to the theme parks. What has GWS have going for it. Not footy heartland at all. Kids like Martin have grown up in footy towns and have footy running through their veins. To go to GWS would be the equivalent of footy withdrawal. Just shows how desperate they are.  If Martin signs expect someone else from last years draft to be the new must have.

Tottaly agree .. But western sydney is becoming more AFL cause kids don't wanna be dirty rugby players.. dead set you watch next generation sydney will have alot of AFL fans
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 25, 2010, 11:05:05 PM
$2.4m offer for Tiger's young gun Dustin Martin from Greater Western Sydney

    * Mark Robinson
    * From: Herald Sun
    * May 26, 2010


RICHMOND young gun Dustin Martin has a potential $2.4 million contract ahead of him after just eight games of football.

 It is believed Martin, 18, has a verbal offer of $800,000 a season over three seasons from 2012 from the New South Wales expansion team, despite denials yesterday from Greater Western Sydney.

The good news for Tigers fans is Martin wants to stay at Punt Rd and contract negotiations with the Tigers will be discussed in the second half of this year.

If he stays, he could reasonably demand between $400,000-$500,000 a season.

Martin's manager Ricky Nixon said yesterday: "I don't want to get involved in discussion over Dustin's negotiations, other than to say it's a unique situation with two new teams coming into the competition."

As barbs continue to be traded between the Tigers, GWS and its coach Kevin Sheedy, Martin has been made aware a boom contract awaits him if he doesn't re-sign with Richmond.

 GWS head of football Graeme Allan yesterday said the club had yet to prioritise its wish-list and had not spoken to Martin.

"We don't comment on player contracts," Allan said.

Nixon and Richmond yesterday agreed to make no further public comment on Martin's future after yet another report linking Martin to the expansion team.

It was first revealed in the Herald Sun on May 12 that the Tigers had began contract talks with Nixon, which revolved around a telephone call from Richmond to Nixon.

Sheedy upped the ante with the Tigers in a recent column in the Sunday Herald Sun.

He said the Tigers' promising youngsters would be targeted by the GWS, and that the Tigers had never got their business together in two decades.

Tigers president Gary March yesterday was quoted as saying clubs needed protection from losing early-round draftees to the expansion teams.

The AFL has said the Tigers must fight to keep their players, like every club.

Martin, pick No. 3 in last year's national draft, is contracted until the end of 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus payments of $2800 for every match.

His form this season has wowed Tigers officials.

Richmond's issue is GWS will pay a superstar's wage for Martin, so the Tigers will have to pay "overs" for a player of such inexperience.

As the club develops a new list, and after recent signings of Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin, Martin's signature on a new contract is priority No. 1.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m-offer-for-tigers-young-gun-dustin-martin-from-greater-western-sydney/story-e6frf9jf-1225871283986
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 25, 2010, 11:17:15 PM
Well I am afraid to say that if he does not re-sign I will officially give up following football and the RFC. I will concentrate on my childrens sport, motorbike riding, Golf, my photography, V8's, MotoGP, World Superbikes and a number of other interests that I put off yearly to watch and support my club. At least I will have plenty of time up my sleeve during the football season to fulfil my hobbies.

If Martin leaves it will finally prove that money is all this game has become and that we will never make it because all we will be doing year after year is trying to rebuild a team that will never exist as we will continue to lose players to the wealthier clubs.

Lets hope he stays!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 26, 2010, 12:15:33 AM
Well I am afraid to say that if he does not re-sign I will officially give up following football and the RFC.

Suddenly Martin doesn't seem such a terrible loss :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 12:22:04 AM
Well I am afraid to say that if he does not re-sign I will officially give up following football and the RFC.

Suddenly Martin doesn't seem such a terrible loss :lol

Now now, it's been quite pleasent on here over the last few days, well for me anyway... :thumbsup :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2010, 02:34:12 AM
The good news for Tigers fans is Martin wants to stay at Punt Rd and contract negotiations with the Tigers will be discussed in the second half of this year.

If he stays, he could reasonably demand between $400,000-$500,000 a season.
That's all that matters. Sheeds can go and fly a kite for all I care ::).

The Gold Coast were apparently going hard after Foley last year and he re-signed and extended his contract to 2012. 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2010, 06:50:15 AM
Anyone who supported Sheedy's push for power at the RFC should be ashamed of themselves.

What a tossbag.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 07:14:39 AM

..... where at least GC is kind of nice to take your kids and go to the theme parks.
 

Not true Tucker.  GC is a horrible place to raise kids.  It's full of drugs, crime and values false ego above every other human emotion.  I raised some of my children through their teenage years living on the Gold Coast and didn't get a moment's peace.  It's feral.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: blaisee on May 26, 2010, 07:24:52 AM
Anyone who supported Sheedy's push for power at the RFC should be ashamed of themselves.

What a tossbag.

sheedy would love to see the tiges stay on the bottom, the senile old fart still reckons he should of got the rfc coaching job. he is a disgrace
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 26, 2010, 07:59:09 AM
I hope Richmond does not try and match that offer. $800k for a bloke that has played 8 games is just ludicrous.
Getting involved in bidding wars and paying players more than their worth nearly drove our club (and collingwood) broke. It was the catalyst for the drafting system and salary cap we have in place now

It's even more ludicrous that the AFL are happy for this to happen. Do they really want a situation where the whole players payment market becomes artificially inflated due to these sorts of scenarios?

Not really into the idea of expecting any favours from the AFL due to our perennial crapness, but the league really need to look at protecting lower clubs from loosing early draft selections, the future of the clubs so to speak, to cashed up vultures. It defeats the whole purpose of the draft and the ramifications could be far reaching for the game in general. It has the potential to rip the heart and soul out of the game, what is left of it anyway.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: julzqld on May 26, 2010, 08:27:37 AM

..... where at least GC is kind of nice to take your kids and go to the theme parks.
 

Not true Tucker.  GC is a horrible place to raise kids.  It's full of drugs, crime and values false ego above every other human emotion.  I raised some of my children through their teenage years living on the Gold Coast and didn't get a moment's peace.  It's feral.

Depends which end of the Gold Coast you live smokey.  Also depends on how you raise your kids - some people don't give a toss about how they raise their kids.  Won't discipline because they don't want to break little Johnny's spirit!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 26, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
Only thing worse than Martin going would be to see the look on that old  >:( >:( >:( face if Dustin signs on the dotted line.

That would cut real deep


Edited for avoiding the swear filter and using the "C" word which is unacceptable and wont be tolerated - you've been warned Daniel
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 09:30:48 AM

Depends which end of the Gold Coast you live smokey.


I agree to an extent Julz but only to the extent that in some pockets of the Coast it's not too bad - and that is more in the quieter suburbs, not the more famous and well trodden beach/city areas.  The main problem is that all teenage kids want to do is party with all the other kids and as you know, on the Coast that means Surfers or Broadbeach which are both dangerous and (bad) influential places for kids to socialise.  I hated it when ever my kids went out in town because even though I rate them as fairly sensible and level-headed, the place is just full of idiots looking for nothing else but trouble and/or a market for their drugs.  I know that other cities are like this also but the Gold Coast is a relatively small city and concentrates it's social scene fairly tightly, hence the increased likelihood of trouble happening where your innocent kids might be.  And for it's size, I rate it much worse than either Melbourne or Sydney, and I believe I can fairly compare because I have lived and raised kids in all 3.

Quote

Also depends on how you raise your kids - some people don't give a toss about how they raise their kids.  Won't discipline because they don't want to break little Johnny's spirit!


Too true!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 26, 2010, 10:09:55 AM
Sunny coast would be a much better place to raise kids.

Gold coast is the manifestation of the worst of the get rich quick value system. In the 20 years I've been going there its changed massively. I've never seen so many tattoo 'sleeves' in on place either
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 26, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2010, 10:45:16 AM
The player isn't the issue here it is GWS and Sheedy

Whatever we can afford we must to keep any of our young guns
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 26, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.

 I think 450k-500k on a 3 years deal is fair and reasonable. If Mcguane that spud can get 450k a year then why cant Martin demand that after all he has shown in 8 games what he is capable of.

3 year deal will set him up nicely and also allow him to negotiate a cracking deal in about 3 years time if this form continues.

It should be about what the player is worth and  Martin is worth a lot more than your average new recruit.



Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 26, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
Well I am afraid to say that if he does not re-sign I will officially give up following football and the RFC. I will concentrate on my childrens sport, motorbike riding, Golf, my photography, V8's, MotoGP, World Superbikes and a number of other interests that I put off yearly to watch and support my club. At least I will have plenty of time up my sleeve during the football season to fulfil my hobbies.

If Martin leaves it will finally prove that money is all this game has become and that we will never make it because all we will be doing year after year is trying to rebuild a team that will never exist as we will continue to lose players to the wealthier clubs.

Lets hope he stays!!

just spoke to my bro on the phone and we r the same, if this happen, goodbye AFL goodbye RFC


i thought it was against the rules to speak to contracted players... why dosnt martin go straigh to the aflpa and ,media and dob on the GC and gws. no point in going to the afl , as that cypriot poo pusher will hide it and protect the 2 new teams, but if he comes out and says publicly that these teams are breaking the rules and trying to negotiate with him just them maybe all these bastards will back off


as for sheedy and bartlett, march should come out and say the rfc has taken away their legend statuts at the club and they are no longer welcome

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 12:50:15 PM
Well I am afraid to say that if he does not re-sign I will officially give up following football and the RFC. I will concentrate on my childrens sport, motorbike riding, Golf, my photography, V8's, MotoGP, World Superbikes and a number of other interests that I put off yearly to watch and support my club. At least I will have plenty of time up my sleeve during the football season to fulfil my hobbies.

If Martin leaves it will finally prove that money is all this game has become and that we will never make it because all we will be doing year after year is trying to rebuild a team that will never exist as we will continue to lose players to the wealthier clubs.

Lets hope he stays!!

just spoke to my bro on the phone and we r the same, if this happen, goodbye AFL goodbye RFC


i thought it was against the rules to speak to contracted players... why dosnt martin go straigh to the aflpa and ,media and dob on the GC and gws. no point in going to the afl , as that cypriot poo pusher will hide it and protect the 2 new teams, but if he comes out and says publicly that these teams are breaking the rules and trying to negotiate with him just them maybe all these bastards will back off


as for sheedy and bartlett, march should come out and say the rfc has taken away their legend statuts at the club and they are no longer welcome



Totally agree X, imagine if they were trying to poach a young gun from the Blues or the Pies, geezus the army, airforce and navy would have been called in by now. But no it's Richmond again so lets pillage and ruin the club, someone has to stand up here and say something, I mean c'mon, even Bomber Thompson is starting to get stuck into Ablett at every opportunity.

Stand the hell up RFC, say and do something, re-sign him or just carry on as the weak club that we are known as. >:(
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 01:29:10 PM

.....I mean c'mon, even Bomber Thompson is starting to get stuck into Ablett at every opportunity.


Not if his interview on Monday's On The Couch was anything to go by.  He said he was basically sick of talking about it because he had been misquoted and taken out of context so many times by so many journalists that he had had enough - and then he refused to answer Sheehan's direct questions about it.  He said that he would love to keep Ablett but if stories of the reputed offer are true then Ablett has a duty to himself and his future to make a call when the time is right, not a moment before.  And he said that himself or the club was not going to pressure him to make any decision in any timeframe.  He couldn't have been more blunt or assertive with his answers and I don't know about you, but one things that strikes me about Thompson is that he comes across as more honest and open than most.  He was pretty peed to be getting asked again.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2010, 01:46:44 PM
Let's all take a deep breath  ;D

1. Martin is contracted until the end of 2011. So he isn't about to fly the coop in the next 10 minutes

2. GWS haven't done anything "official" and haven't talked to the kid directly. Silly Ricky Nixon knows the rules so he isn't about to do anything that will risk himelf being stipped of his accreditation as an AFL agent.

3. All Clubs talk to player managers all the time about who is and isn't coming out of contract. And I do mean ALL clubs

4. Give the kid some some credit. This is the media spruiking to sell papers. Let things take it course and trust the kid to do the right thing. I don't think he needs this sort of pressure 8 games into a career

5. The club is on top of this and I am very confident indeed (like I was with Cotchin & Deledio) that young Dusty will be a tiger for a long time

 :thumbsup

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 03:13:44 PM

.....I mean c'mon, even Bomber Thompson is starting to get stuck into Ablett at every opportunity.


Not if his interview on Monday's On The Couch was anything to go by.  He said he was basically sick of talking about it because he had been misquoted and taken out of context so many times by so many journalists that he had had enough - and then he refused to answer Sheehan's direct questions about it.  He said that he would love to keep Ablett but if stories of the reputed offer are true then Ablett has a duty to himself and his future to make a call when the time is right, not a moment before.  And he said that himself or the club was not going to pressure him to make any decision in any timeframe.  He couldn't have been more blunt or assertive with his answers and I don't know about you, but one things that strikes me about Thompson is that he comes across as more honest and open than most.  He was pretty peed to be getting asked again.

Yeah but did you hear the interview that they replayed on Footy Clasified Monday night that he had on the weekend?? He is honest though, I do agree.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 03:19:07 PM

Yeah but did you hear the interview that they replayed on Footy Clasified Monday night that he had on the weekend?? He is honest though, I do agree.

No, what did he say?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 03:21:58 PM
Let's all take a deep breath  ;D

1. Martin is contracted until the end of 2011. So he isn't about to fly the coop in the next 10 minutes

2. GWS have done anything "official" and haven't talked to the kid directly. Silly Ricky Nixon knows the rules so he isn't about to anything that risk himelf being stipped of his accreditation as an AFL agent.

3. All Clubs talk to player managers all the time about who is and isn't coming out of contract. And I do mean ALL clubs

4. Give the kid some some credit. This is the media spruiking to sell papers. Let things take it course and trust the kid to do the right thing. I don't think he needs this sort of pressure 8 games into a career

5. The club is on top of this and I am very confident indeed (like I was with Cotchin & Deledio) that young Dusty will be a tiger for a long time

 :thumbsup

 :gotigers

I think a few of us are more frustrated with the way Sheedy and co are going about it and the fact that the AFL has sat back and said bad luck if you want to keep him you had better fight for him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 03:33:44 PM

Yeah but did you hear the interview that they replayed on Footy Clasified Monday night that he had on the weekend?? He is honest though, I do agree.

No, what did he say?

When asked about if Ablett would leave the club he said straight out, why would he, he is at a successful club why would he leave, I know I wouldn't do that.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 03:45:41 PM

When asked about if Ablett would leave the club he said straight out, why would he, he is at a successful club why would he leave, I know I wouldn't do that.

Ta WAT.  Have to say, without seeing the interview and manner in which he said it, the answer itself says "fed up" to me.  Rather than having a go or pressuring Ablett, more a smart-ass answer to the journo.  Just my take on it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 03:50:10 PM

When asked about if Ablett would leave the club he said straight out, why would he, he is at a successful club why would he leave, I know I wouldn't do that.

Ta WAT.  Have to say, without seeing the interview and manner in which he said it, the answer itself says "fed up" to me.  Rather than having a go or pressuring Ablett, more a smart-ass answer to the journo.  Just my take on it.

Yeah you are dead right, he wasn't actually interviewed on Footy Clasified, they re-played a radio interview from that day. But yeah I agree he and I would say that 90% of the football community have had enough of the Ablett saga, I know i have.

Thats why IMO we have to act sooner rather than later on Martin, we can't afford to let the Martin signing drag out as long as the Ablett one. Lets hope his signing is announced directly after the bye..
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2010, 03:56:01 PM

Thats why IMO we have to act sooner rather than later on Martin, we can't afford to let the Martin signing drag out as long as the Ablett one. Lets hope his signing is announced directly after the bye..

Very true, and would be very happy with that announcement.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on May 26, 2010, 04:39:47 PM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.

Ramps, if that is the case, Martin is heading north!

$800,000 v $500,000 - which one would you choose?

this player is a 250+ matches in our midfield!

we need to keep him!

do what ever it takes.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 26, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.

Ramps, if that is the case, Martin is heading north!

$800,000 v $500,000 - which one would you choose?

this player is a 250+ matches in our midfield!

we need to keep him!

Its about how you run your business- if Martin is worth 500k then what is Deledio worth- $700k? or Cotchin- $700k : the salary cap gets blown to smitherines and we will never have success because we wont be able to get enough good players into our club.

do what ever it takes.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 26, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.

Ramps, if that is the case, Martin is heading north!

$800,000 v $500,000 - which one would you choose?

this player is a 250+ matches in our midfield!

we need to keep him!

do what ever it takes.
Not that simple, they wouldn't be able to keep him on that amount of money for the rest of his career, especially given the amount of high draft picks they will have. Once their 2 year contract are up they will be up for big renegotiations.
Also haven stayed with us for only 2 years, remaining with the club will make it quicker to get access to veterans bonuses where only half of their salary counts towards the TPP and as such can be paid more.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
I think a few of us are more frustrated with the way Sheedy and co are going about it and the fact that the AFL has sat back and said bad luck if you want to keep him you had better fight for him.

Yeah I understand that but some posts seem to be focusing the very small chance of him going rather than the odds being in our favour that he will stay. I will say it again I am very confident he wont being going anywhere

And the AFL have said to all clubs "bad luck if you want to keep him you had better fight for him" because every club is facing a "supposed fight" to keep players in the future.

Look at the Blues they will they have to fight to keep Byrce Gibbs because GC17 is circling? Like us with Cotchin GC17 may think it will be a fight but truth be told not many players leave clubs for more money. Certainly some do but on the whole not many do; especially young ones.

So in the case of Gibbs; he is likely to stay at the Blues (although if wants out of Carlton we should be circling  ;D), ditto Dusty with the Tigers.

Let's not forget outside of Ablett Jnr every big name player that they've tried get has kncoked them back. Some of the targets (eg Cotch & Selwood) didn't even bother to talk to them
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2010, 08:10:12 PM
I think a few of us are more frustrated with the way Sheedy and co are going about it and the fact that the AFL has sat back and said bad luck if you want to keep him you had better fight for him.

Yeah I understand that but some posts seem to be focusing the very small chance of him going rather than the odds being in our favour that he will stay. I will say it again I am very confident he wont being going anywhere

And the AFL have said to all clubs "bad luck if you want to keep him you had better fight for him" because every club is facing a "supposed fight" to keep players in the future.

Look at the Blues they will they have to fight to keep Byrce Gibbs because GC17 is circling? Like us with Cotchin GC17 may think it will be a fight but truth be told not many players leave clubs for more money. Certainly some do but on the whole not many do; especially young ones.

So in the case of Gibbs; he is likely to stay at the Blues (although if wants out of Carlton we should be circling  ;D), ditto Dusty with the Tigers.

Let's not forget outside of Ablett Jnr every big name player that they've tried get has kncoked them back. Some of the targets (eg Cotch & Selwood) didn't even bother to talk to them

Well lets hope a lot more players knock them back!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: blaisee on May 26, 2010, 08:13:48 PM
martin will remain a tiger
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
martin will remain a tiger

That's what I said  :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 26, 2010, 08:53:40 PM
Let's not forget outside of Ablett Jnr every big name player that they've tried get has kncoked them back. Some of the targets (eg Cotch & Selwood) didn't even bother to talk to them
Hence the $2m per year salary they are throwing at GAJ, they have a whole salary cap to spend and only fixed contract draft picks to give the money to at the moment.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
The good news for Tigers fans is Martin wants to stay at Punt Rd and contract negotiations with the Tigers will be discussed in the second half of this year.


That for me is the most important line in the article. I feel the kid wants to stay as his family and especially his dad has a big influence on him as with the deal with Cotch.

Ever other line is just he said she said smacked with a hint of drama and a pinch of overeaction. Throw in Sheedy's name and there you have it every RFC fan in the last 30 years is going to raise their eyebrows.

Money is important as some have mention but if GWS and GC17 have signed no megastar ie Ablett Selwood etc I am sure also that playing in premierships and in front of 70000 at the MCG is, rather than travelling from one of the Northern States to Etihad to play North Melbourne in front of 10000-15000. Furthermore if no megastars sign then success will only be a mirage and players won't want to go. You'll find a few players on their last big contract at 28 or 29 will ultimately end up going and we'll have two teams who may as well be performing as the Brisbane Bears from 1987-93.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on May 26, 2010, 11:34:02 PM
dusty wont be going anywhere
sheeds has a club to sell.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on May 27, 2010, 02:02:17 AM
dusty wont be going anywhere
sheeds has a club to sell.

I believe this to be correct. Sheeds has done young Martin a hell of a favor though. Martins next Richmond contract will be a lot more than what it was probably ear marked for. Sheeds is very good at making noise, its all about marketing, creating energy and momentum for the Sydney area. Never the less we and other clubs should be diligent with list management because he WILL steal somebody. Don't be complacent.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 27, 2010, 10:25:11 AM
should not be offered more than 400k to stay with us and he should be prepared to sign a 5 year deal to get it, if Dustin doesnt like the offer he should go to GWS- our club shouldnt allow itself to be held to ransom by other clubs, every year a new batch comes through, every kid wants to play AFL, RFC should hold firm and not stuff up the clubs finances for an 8 game player.

Ramps, if that is the case, Martin is heading north!

$800,000 v $500,000 - which one would you choose?

this player is a 250+ matches in our midfield!

we need to keep him!

Its about how you run your business- if Martin is worth 500k then what is Deledio worth- $700k? or Cotchin- $700k : the salary cap gets blown to smitherines and we will never have success because we wont be able to get enough good players into our club.

do what ever it takes.

Ramps is on the money here (pun intended  :P) We have been down the path of paying players over their worth and it nearly killed the club. If money is the sole factor for a young bloke then somewhere along the line he will leave for more money. It might as well be sooner than later.

The possibility of disharmony amongst the players is not to be discounted either.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 27, 2010, 02:22:47 PM
A grab on SEN had Peter Schwab saying Richmond supporters needn't worry as he's heard Martin is keen to stay at Punt Rd  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 28, 2010, 01:27:05 AM
A grab on SEN had Peter Schwab saying Richmond supporters needn't worry as he's heard Martin is keen to stay at Punt Rd  :thumbsup.

heard the same thing
lets hope we put this to bed asap so sheedy can go stuff himself
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 28, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Dermott Brereton tells Richmond's Dustin Martin to take the money

TAKE the cash while you can. That's the message to Tiger tyro Dustin Martin from Hawks legend Dermott Brereton.

The Herald Sun reported earlier this week that Martin was poised to get a $2.4 million offer from the new Greater Western Sydney team just eight games into his AFL career.

The maturity shown in those games has him already earmarked as a future Richmond leader.

Brereton said this morning he should pounce on the offer while his value was so high.

"I'm looking at him from an outsider's perspective and thinking he's going to turn into a waddler," Brereton said.

"He might still be a very good player, but he'll have to be a very good inside player."

"His currency right now, in relative terms to the market, is as good as it's ever going to be."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dermott-brereton-tells-richmonds-dustin-martin-to-take-the-money/story-e6frf9jf-1225872441375
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 28, 2010, 11:17:42 AM

"I'm looking at him from an outsider's perspective and thinking he's going to turn into a waddler," Brereton said.

"He might still be a very good player, but he'll have to be a very good inside player."


A waddler?

I am not too worried about what Dermie thinks. We're all still waiting on Aaron James to be as good as Wayne Carey.  :wallywink
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 28, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
I can actually see in Dustins playing style what Dermott is talking about. He may not be far off the mark going forward. Offer him 400k if he doesnt like it he can go live in the squalor pits otherwise known as the Western Suburbs of Sydney.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 28, 2010, 11:52:25 AM
Dermie would have said that Voss was a waddler as a young bloke. Clearly Martin doesn't the pace of say Judd, but he can find the footy, can use it and doesn't take a backward step.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 28, 2010, 12:07:29 PM
Dermie would have said that Voss was a waddler as a young bloke. Clearly Martin doesn't the pace of say Judd, but he can find the footy, can use it and doesn't take a backward step.

He does say that Martin will have to be a good inside player, and he already is very good.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on May 28, 2010, 12:19:20 PM
I am not too worried about what Dermie thinks. We're all still waiting on Aaron James to be as good as Wayne Carey.  :wallywink

I'm still waiting for proof that Dermie thinks.  :-\
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 28, 2010, 12:37:28 PM
I am not too worried about what Dermie thinks. We're all still waiting on Aaron James to be as good as Wayne Carey.  :wallywink

I'm still waiting for proof that Dermie thinks.  :-\

 :lol

Didn't he also think that Travis Tuck will be a multiple B&F winner with the Hawks  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 28, 2010, 12:50:54 PM
martins actually very quick, and if the coaching staff dont want him to get bigger then he wont simple as that. I dont mind dermie and i agree his value is highernow than it will ever be but thats bc of the GWS scenario not bc hes not going to get better and b a waddler by the time hes 25 roflmaoooo  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 28, 2010, 12:55:27 PM
Greg Williams was a waddler.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 28, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Was Wayne "Duck" Carey a wadler? :P
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 28, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Martin has elite speed, draft camp proved that
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 28, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
Martin has elite speed, draft camp proved that

yep everyone was shocked at how quick he was
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
Martin contract talks begin
richmondfc.com.au
By Nat Edwards 1:34 PM Fri 28 May, 2010



RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has confirmed the Tigers are in contract negotiations with rising star Dustin Martin.

The talks come in the wake of speculation earlier this week that Martin had been offered a lucrative three-year deal by Greater Western Sydney to join the club in 2012.

GWS coach Kevin Sheedy recently fuelled speculation when he wrote a column in a Melbourne newspaper revealing the club’s plans to target Richmond’s promising youngsters, including Martin, who’s contracted with the Tigers until the end of 2011.

Hardwick says he is confident that the club’s first-round draft pick from 2009 will stay at Richmond.

“We’re very confident that he’ll stay and be a very good player for our footy club,” Hardwick said on Friday morning.

“Dustin’s not going anywhere we don’t think. He’s very happy here, and we’re in negotiations at the moment.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/95218/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 28, 2010, 04:03:22 PM
Good the hear the coach coming out and pushing it along a bit.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 28, 2010, 06:05:08 PM
is this a case of us reacting to the media setting the agenda on this?surely the club should have done its homework on this issue.
I mean just speculating here ,so i hope i'm wrong
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on May 28, 2010, 06:32:53 PM
sucked in sheedy
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on May 28, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
someone has been trying to grab headlines. :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on May 28, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
GWS chasing fresh air, Dusty wont be going anywhere.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 28, 2010, 09:46:05 PM
Good the hear the coach coming out and pushing it along a bit.. :thumbsup

why is that good?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 28, 2010, 09:57:52 PM
Good the hear the coach coming out and pushing it along a bit.. :thumbsup

why is that good?

Why isn't it good??? Shouldn't the coach or a RFC rep come out and let us all know that we want this kid. Don't you think Martin reads the papers, c'mon mate, don't be silly you know exactly what I meant!!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 28, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
The kid is living with the President of the club. He aint going anywhere.
Club is nipping it in the bud now better than dealing with it for the whole of next year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on May 29, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
Neville Stibbard(*) on Foxtel said something about the Martin deal and comparing it to the Fitzroy Richmond deal with Michael Gale, Dundas, Brodders etc.
WTF he was talking about I don't know, but said we shouldn't whinge about what was being offered to Martin from other clubs
 ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 29, 2010, 02:56:33 PM
hmmm, I can see the relevance ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 29, 2010, 06:32:12 PM
Magnificent performance from dustin today- particularly in the 1st half when the game was there to be won. A great performance from the kid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 29, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Yep he finds the footy he is strong and tough and he gets clearances. A genuine inside midfielder. :thumbsup

Can see why GWS want him and can see why he will stay with us too. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 29, 2010, 06:37:35 PM
what a game by dustin
this kid today showed he is a man , has balls and played as if he was a tiger for life


well done
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 29, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
On ya Dusty  :bow

Why go to an artifically created franchise in the middle of nowhere when he can belong to a real traditional big club, singing the best song after a win, and making a name for himself in its resurgence over the next 3-4 years. There's legendary status awaiting for the coach and players who take us to the holy grail.

Neville Stibbard(*) on Foxtel said something about the Martin deal and comparing it to the Fitzroy Richmond deal with Michael Gale, Dundas, Brodders etc.
WTF he was talking about I don't know, but said we shouldn't whinge about what was being offered to Martin from other clubs
 ::)
Does that asterix stand for he's a utter moron FNM   :lol. Did anyone remind him we gave up our captain and leading goalkicker in that exchange plus a high pick  ::).
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on May 29, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
Does that asterix stand for he's a utter moron FNM   :lol. Did anyone remind him we gave up our captain and leading goalkicker in that exchange plus a high pick  ::).
Asterisk is for I don't know how to spell his name
Force of habit  ;)

Yep, don't know what they're whinging about, Hoggy was great up back and forward
The fact he was ruined injury wise is a minor detail lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on May 29, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
Does that asterix stand for he's a utter moron FNM   :lol. Did anyone remind him we gave up our captain and leading goalkicker in that exchange plus a high pick  ::).
Asterisk is for I don't know how to spell his name
Force of habit  ;)

Yep, don't know what they're whinging about, Hoggy was great up back and forward
The fact he was ruined injury wise is a minor detail lol


If this trade (Hogg for the 3 fitzroy boys) was insurance we would have gone to the big house for fraud lol ... thankfully it was just footy. Anyway Stibbard can get stuffed. We're on the right track.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 29, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
Does that asterix stand for he's a utter moron FNM   :lol. Did anyone remind him we gave up our captain and leading goalkicker in that exchange plus a high pick  ::).
Asterisk is for I don't know how to spell his name
Force of habit  ;)

Yep, don't know what they're whinging about, Hoggy was great up back and forward
The fact he was ruined injury wise is a minor detail lol


If this trade (Hogg for the 3 fitzroy boys) was insurance we would have gone to the big house for fraud lol ... thankfully it was just footy. Anyway Stibbard can get stuffed. We're on the right track.
We gave up pick 6 and gained pick 26 in that trade as well.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/draft_history.htm

Sheeds can get stuffed as well for thinking he can get his hands on Martin ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2010, 05:17:15 AM
From Patrick Smith in the Australian ...

Still, the FFA campaign against the AFL is not the only mis-information being peddled about by parts of the football community. It has been reported extensively that Richmond's promising midfielder Dustin Martin, picked at three in last year's national draft, is being courted heavily by the new franchises in Sydney and the Gold Coast. It has been suggested he had been offered as much as $800,000 a year to move up north. AFL officials who are monitoring the development of the new teams deny this outright. They are adamant there has been no offer of any sort to Martin. Still, the speculation was enough to spook Richmond president Gary March to run to AFL headquarters asking the game's administrators to intervene. He was reacting to the work of mischievous player managers.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/afl-not-offside-playing-hardball/story-e6frg7mf-1225873764295
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 01, 2010, 08:09:33 AM
started watching a replay of the port game last night and the commentators said that earlier on Cameron had said that GWS had not spoken to Martin at all.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on June 01, 2010, 08:34:45 AM
Martin hints at staying a Tiger

Dustin Martin has hinted he wants to stay at Richmond

 8:50 AM Tue 01 June, 2010RICHMOND youngster Dustin Martin has given the first public indication that he may ignore potential offers from Gold Coast and Greater West Sydney to remain a Tiger.

Martin has been strongly linked to the AFL’s newest clubs as a potential recruit, with suggestions that he could be offered as much as $800,000 per season.

While admitting he has not given much thought to his next contract, Martin revealed exclusively to afl.com.au that he would be leaning towards remaining at Punt Rd.

“The Tigers gave me the opportunity and I’m happy here so I’d be happy to stay here,” he said.

Martin was drafted by Richmond with pick three at last year’s NAB AFL Draft and signed a two-year deal with the Tigers that expires at the end of 2011, which coincides with Greater West Sydney’s arrival on the AFL scene.

He has been one of the Tigers’ bright lights in an otherwise gloomy season, missing just one game this season and averaging 20 disposals per match.

The 18-year-old’s ability to win contested possessions and his immaculate disposal have had the football world in raptures and saw him become the round 10 nominee for the NAB AFL Rising Star.

Gold Coast enters the AFL next season but has so far failed to secure any big names. Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin, Nick Riewoldt, Bryce Gibbs and Jarryd Roughead have all re-signed with their Victorian clubs amid speculation they could be chased by Guy McKenna’s team.

Its vast salary cap space and failure to land any big fish so far could mean that the club will focus its intentions on securing the next generation of AFL stars.

Martin is yet to have any discussions about his playing future beyond his initial two-year deal but talks have already begun behind closed doors.

“No, that’s between my manager Ricky Nixon and (Richmond general manager of football operations) Craig Cameron,” he said.

“I haven’t had anything to do with that at the moment, I’m just playing footy.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/95400/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2010, 12:11:16 PM
From Patrick Smith in the Australian ...

Still, the FFA campaign against the AFL is not the only mis-information being peddled about by parts of the football community. It has been reported extensively that Richmond's promising midfielder Dustin Martin, picked at three in last year's national draft, is being courted heavily by the new franchises in Sydney and the Gold Coast. It has been suggested he had been offered as much as $800,000 a year to move up north. AFL officials who are monitoring the development of the new teams deny this outright. They are adamant there has been no offer of any sort to Martin. Still, the speculation was enough to spook Richmond president Gary March to run to AFL headquarters asking the game's administrators to intervene. He was reacting to the work of mischievous player managers.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/afl-not-offside-playing-hardball/story-e6frg7mf-1225873764295

I was one of the few on here that would have been ok with not paying over the odds to keep dustin martin. Our President seems to have gone into panic mode - its not a good look. RFC needs a new President. I am deadset adamant on this. Gary March seems like a decent bloke, but we need a new leader and President. The club needs to convince someone like Michael Green to takeover or at least find a suitable businessman who loves the Tigers to takeover. My preference is Michael Green.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2010, 12:54:56 PM
Martin hints at staying a Tiger
richmondfc.com.au
By Luke Holmesby
Tue 01 June, 2010



RICHMOND youngster Dustin Martin has given the first public indication that he may ignore potential offers from Gold Coast and Greater West Sydney to remain a Tiger.

Martin has been strongly linked to the AFL’s newest clubs as a potential recruit, with suggestions that he could be offered as much as $800,000 per season.

While admitting he has not given much thought to his next contract, Martin revealed exclusively to afl.com.au that he would be leaning towards remaining at Punt Rd.

“The Tigers gave me the opportunity and I’m happy here so I’d be happy to stay here,” he said.

Martin was drafted by Richmond with pick three at last year’s NAB AFL Draft and signed a two-year deal with the Tigers that expires at the end of 2011, which coincides with Greater West Sydney’s arrival on the AFL scene.

He has been one of the Tigers’ bright lights in an otherwise gloomy season, missing just one game this season and averaging 20 disposals per match.

The 18-year-old’s ability to win contested possessions and his immaculate disposal have had the football world in raptures and saw him become the round 10 nominee for the NAB AFL Rising Star.

Gold Coast enters the AFL next season but has so far failed to secure any big names. Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin, Nick Riewoldt, Bryce Gibbs and Jarryd Roughead have all re-signed with their Victorian clubs amid speculation they could be chased by Guy McKenna’s team.

Its vast salary cap space and failure to land any big fish so far could mean that the club will focus its intentions on securing the next generation of AFL stars.

Martin is yet to have any discussions about his playing future beyond his initial two-year deal but talks have already begun behind closed doors.

“No, that’s between my manager Ricky Nixon and (Richmond general manager of football operations) Craig Cameron,” he said.

“I haven’t had anything to do with that at the moment, I’m just playing footy.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/95402/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 01, 2010, 02:26:22 PM
I was one of the few on here that would have been ok with not paying over the odds to keep dustin martin. Our President seems to have gone into panic mode - its not a good look. RFC needs a new President. I am deadset adamant on this. Gary March seems like a decent bloke, but we need a new leader and President. The club needs to convince someone like Michael Green to takeover or at least find a suitable businessman who loves the Tigers to takeover. My preference is Michael Green.

I must admit, I was always anti-March when he first took over the presidency. Concept Sports was millions in debt at the time so I questioned his credentials to take the top job at the RFC. During the last year or two while we handled Wallace's departure I must admit that I thought he handled it well and had no problem with him continuing in the role. I also believe that the worst thing that can happen is for an attempted board challenge and I still think that today.

That being said I think March should move on at some time over the next 12 months and hand over the job to someone who can take the club to the next level.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2010, 02:47:40 PM
Im not advocating a board challenge, simply that a new President is found
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 01, 2010, 04:22:58 PM
can see why Roos reckon Aston was worth Rohan & Jetta
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 01, 2010, 10:46:06 PM
Im not advocating a board challenge, simply that a new President is found

Sorry, wasn't saying you were. Was just a comment on where I thought things were at.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 02, 2010, 05:07:49 AM

I was one of the few on here that would have been ok with not paying over the odds to keep dustin martin. Our President seems to have gone into panic mode - its not a good look. RFC needs a new President. I am deadset adamant on this. Gary March seems like a decent bloke, but we need a new leader and President. The club needs to convince someone like Michael Green to takeover or at least find a suitable businessman who loves the Tigers to takeover. My preference is Michael Green.

I'm not sure what panic mode you see March in Ramps?  In the past we have been very critical of our President(s) and CEO(s) not speaking out when we have been wearing the rough end of the pineapple and here is a prime time where we needed our leaders to speak up and say "we're not going to cop this" yet you immediately accuse him of panicking!  We might well be able to do okay out of an upgrade on him but I don't think he is doing that bad a job that he needs immediate replacement.  He has surprised me with the job him and his board have done off field since the Casey Cancer and we won't be losing ground or shooting ourselves in the foot he he stays for a while longer.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2010, 02:17:37 AM
The media keep harping on about Martin and GWS  :sleep. It was also the first thing Mark Doran mentioned on radio straight after our win over Brisbane  ::).


While the AFL is yet to finalise the compensation system for teams that lose stars to the Gold Coast, Richmond's boom youngster Dustin Martin was used to demonstrate the unfairness of the initial rules - in which Martin could be lost to GWS, with the Tigers receiving only a second-round draft pick.

The AFL executive is now working to revise those compensation rules and while there is much focus on what is seen as the Gary Ablett rule - the compensation Geelong would receive if it lost him to Gold Coast - there is more concern at commission and executive level about the possibility of a lowly club receiving scant return for losing a 20-year-old.

The initial formula meant that a player such as Martin, who is not paid much in his first two seasons, would be measured by what he was paid by his previous club, not the new team if it signed him.

The Tigers are confident of retaining Martin, who has attracted the interest of GWS and is simply being used as an hypothetical by the AFL.

Under the revised formula, which is yet to be settled, the compensation for a younger player such as Martin would be based upon what the new club offered him, not his existing contract.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-gains-ground-in-sydneys-greater-west-20100622-yvqm.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on June 23, 2010, 08:19:33 AM
thebigricho on Yellow and Black has heard that the deal has been done with Dustin. I'll ley you all decide how accurate you feel this is but at least it might make some of you feel good. Reading it made me feel good.  :thumbsup

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=325407#post325407
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 23, 2010, 09:09:37 AM
thebigricho on Yellow and Black has heard that the deal has been done with Dustin. I'll ley you all decide how accurate you feel this is but at least it might make some of you feel good. Reading it made me feel good.  :thumbsup

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=325407#post325407

My mail is it is getting there but not done
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 1965 on June 23, 2010, 09:25:57 AM
thebigricho on Yellow and Black has heard that the deal has been done with Dustin. I'll ley you all decide how accurate you feel this is but at least it might make some of you feel good. Reading it made me feel good.  :thumbsup

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=325407#post325407

My mail is it is getting there but not done

My mail is all bills and junk mail.

Email has well and truly killed off personal letters.

Anyway, good news about Dusty. I'm going to enjoy watching his progression over the next 10 years.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on June 23, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Jake Niall, provides some tiny bit of solace if the deal isn't struck with Dustin, as opposed to the original plan.

The AFL is poised to announce changes to its compensation system, with a new panel to determine if a club can receive a second first-round draft pick in exchange for losing a superstar player to the Gold Coast or Greater Western Sydney.

This means under the new system, Geelong would be able to get a second first-round draft pick if it lost Gary Ablett to the Gold Coast - but it would have to make its case and seek approval from the new panel.

The same would apply to a club that lost a budding young star - for example, if Richmond was to lose Dustin Martin to GWS, they could apply to the panel for a second first-round pick.

It is understood the highest pick that could be awarded to a club as compensation would be the first round draft pick that comes after all non-finals playing teams have made their initial selections. In an 18-team competition with a final eight, that would be pick 11. With a final 12, it would be pick seven.

Clubs, headed by Geelong, have been lobbying against the initital system. The Cats have good reason to protest - under the initial system, if the Brownlow medallist decided to join his brother Nathan on the Gold Coast, the earliest draft pick the Cats would get as compensation would be at the start of the second round, which would be No.26 at this year's national draft.

It’s also believed that compensation to existing clubs who lose players to Gold Coast or GWS will instead be determined by the amount he's to be paid by the expansion clubs - not by player's existing contract.

Clubs are being briefed prior to an official announcement by the AFL at 12.45pm.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-to-announce-new-compensation-system-for-star-players-20100623-yx8e.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 23, 2010, 12:58:18 PM
seriously,is the big wog serious about raping the competition just so he can have his ego teams?

why couldn't clubs take legal action ?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 23, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
wogs rule!!!  unlike zipper heads
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on June 23, 2010, 01:07:20 PM
Willie, you'd probably know this. Do u know where Martin's parents live. I was eavesdropping on a conversation and they said Martin lived with the "chairman" of RFC because his folks live in Sydney. Is that true anyone?  
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 23, 2010, 01:13:29 PM
Willie, you'd probably know this. Do u know where Martin's parents live. I was eavesdropping on a conversation and they said Martin lived with the "chairman" of RFC because his folks live in Sydney. Is that true anyone?  

martin lives with gary march

his dad is in sydney

his mum in castlemaine, they are divorced
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on June 23, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
Thanx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
Here's the official compensation statement from the AFL



Players will be ranked in five separate categories to determine the level of compensation their club will receive.
 
For a player who meets the highest category of the compensation ranking, and is therefore categorised as a ‘top-echelon’ player, the Commission accepted a recommendation to increase the compensation for these players, which would now see a club receive a Round One Selection and a second selection at the mid-point of Round One, placed after the teams that have missed the finals have had their Round One Selection and before the teams that have competed in the finals have their Round One Selection.
 
The other categories of compensation would be in four categories - Round One Selection, End of Round One Selection, Round Two Selection and Round Three Selection. A club may elect to use its compensation selection(s) at its choice at any of the next five national drafts and its compensation pick in a round would come immediately after its pick in that year’s draft, with the exception of any Round One picks at the 2010 and 2011 Drafts, which can only be utilised at the end of Round One.
 
AFL Talent Identification Manager Kevin Sheehan and AFL Game Analysis Manager Andrew McKay will review each compensation selection that is awarded, according to the formula, to determine that it is appropriate. They will have the power to recommend a revised compensation outcome to AFL General Manager Football Operations Adrian Anderson if the formula produces an anomalous result.
 
“The compensation is designed to reflect the relative values of various players to one another and to reflect the upside of younger players, but it is not designed to fully compensate a club for the loss of a player as the List Establishment Working Group understands that all clubs will have to make sacrifices in the list establishment for the expansion teams.
 
“Clubs at the bottom of the ladder are sacrificing early draft picks in the compromised drafts and successful clubs will sacrifice by receiving lesser compensation for losing established players, with their compensation picks placed later in the draft,” Mr Dillon said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/96815/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2010, 02:01:35 PM
Here's a powerpoint explanation and examples (they have us finishing 10th  ??? )

http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/afl_docs/compensation22-6.ppt (http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/afl_docs/compensation22-6.ppt)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: smasha on June 23, 2010, 02:06:20 PM
The media keep harping on about Martin and GWS  :sleep. It was also the first thing Mark Doran mentioned on radio straight after our win over Brisbane  ::).


While the AFL is yet to finalise the compensation system for teams that lose stars to the Gold Coast, Richmond's boom youngster Dustin Martin was used to demonstrate the unfairness of the initial rules - in which Martin could be lost to GWS, with the Tigers receiving only a second-round draft pick.

The AFL executive is now working to revise those compensation rules and while there is much focus on what is seen as the Gary Ablett rule - the compensation Geelong would receive if it lost him to Gold Coast - there is more concern at commission and executive level about the possibility of a lowly club receiving scant return for losing a 20-year-old.

The initial formula meant that a player such as Martin, who is not paid much in his first two seasons, would be measured by what he was paid by his previous club, not the new team if it signed him.

The Tigers are confident of retaining Martin, who has attracted the interest of GWS and is simply being used as an hypothetical by the AFL.

Under the revised formula, which is yet to be settled, the compensation for a younger player such as Martin would be based upon what the new club offered him, not his existing contract.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-gains-ground-in-sydneys-greater-west-20100622-yvqm.html

I don't care if the greedy AFL change the rules.

They just want to try and snab Martin from us the dirty corrupt greedy bastards.

The AFL wants to be like FIFA.

Now the Greek real estate agent has changed the rules,that smells fishy to me like they are ringing up Martin to try to get him to GWS.

The greedy one desperate to get his tv rights bags of money.

No number one draft pick will replace a player the calibre of Martin.

These players come around once in a blue moon.

AFL are stuffing holes if they let this go through.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 23, 2010, 02:31:58 PM
The media keep harping on about Martin and GWS  :sleep. It was also the first thing Mark Doran mentioned on radio straight after our win over Brisbane  ::).


While the AFL is yet to finalise the compensation system for teams that lose stars to the Gold Coast, Richmond's boom youngster Dustin Martin was used to demonstrate the unfairness of the initial rules - in which Martin could be lost to GWS, with the Tigers receiving only a second-round draft pick.

The AFL executive is now working to revise those compensation rules and while there is much focus on what is seen as the Gary Ablett rule - the compensation Geelong would receive if it lost him to Gold Coast - there is more concern at commission and executive level about the possibility of a lowly club receiving scant return for losing a 20-year-old.

The initial formula meant that a player such as Martin, who is not paid much in his first two seasons, would be measured by what he was paid by his previous club, not the new team if it signed him.

The Tigers are confident of retaining Martin, who has attracted the interest of GWS and is simply being used as an hypothetical by the AFL.

Under the revised formula, which is yet to be settled, the compensation for a younger player such as Martin would be based upon what the new club offered him, not his existing contract.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-gains-ground-in-sydneys-greater-west-20100622-yvqm.html

I don't care if the greedy AFL change the rules.

They just want to try and snab Martin from us the dirty corrupt greedy bastards.

The AFL wants to be like FIFA.

Now the Greek real estate agent has changed the rules,that smells fishy to me like they are ringing up Martin to try to get him to GWS.

The greedy one desperate to get his tv rights bags of money.

No number one draft pick will replace a player the calibre of Martin.

These players come around once in a blue moon.

AFL are effing behindholes if they let this go through.


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i agree
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 23, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
Spot on smash bhoy
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 23, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
Richmond should move heaven and earth to keep this kid, he's better than Selwood and in the same league as Judd and Ablett.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 23, 2010, 10:25:20 PM
I would like to see him signed during this weekend, maybe an announcement Monday while everyone else if focusing on this round of football!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2010, 06:07:42 AM
Along with Ablett, Western Bulldog playmaker Jarrod Harbrow and Richmond youngster Dustin Martin -- both out of contract at the end of the season -- are also expected to fall into the "top echelon" category available to the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney franchises.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/ablett-amendment-boosts-compo-for-clubs/story-e6frg7mf-1225883425206
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on June 24, 2010, 07:00:33 AM
Along with Ablett, Western Bulldog playmaker Jarrod Harbrow and Richmond youngster Dustin Martin -- both out of contract at the end of the season -- are also expected to fall into the "top echelon" category available to the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney franchises.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/ablett-amendment-boosts-compo-for-clubs/story-e6frg7mf-1225883425206

wish these people would do their research before writing rubbish.  Dustin martin isn't out of contract this season.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on June 24, 2010, 08:30:44 AM
Demetriou can bash sand up his a rse
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 24, 2010, 08:34:48 AM
How would Harbrow be a "top echelon" player?
He's a rookie pick, not a pick 3
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on June 24, 2010, 02:32:15 PM
Willie, you'd probably know this. Do u know where Martin's parents live. I was eavesdropping on a conversation and they said Martin lived with the "chairman" of RFC because his folks live in Sydney. Is that true anyone?  

martin lives with gary march

his dad is in sydney

his mum in castlemaine, they are divorced

if that is the case, shift his dad here in melbourne!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: smasha on June 24, 2010, 05:20:25 PM
Finally we have a list to go places and then the  stuffing AFL want to cut us down again.

stuffIN stuff.

 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on June 24, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
This is garbage.

I want a number one pick and another first round draft pick for DM.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 24, 2010, 05:43:15 PM
Some probably need to take a chill pill.  Martin has never given any indication that he is going anywhere and none of these articles/snippets say that he is even thinking about it.  He is just being used as an example.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 24, 2010, 07:47:29 PM
Dusty has said publicly that having lived in Western Sydney there's nothing to do up there while he loves Melbourne. He ain't going. It's just the media talking garbage to stir.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 25, 2010, 06:25:11 PM
Dusty is listed in the survey's toughest players to vote on

http://news.mktg.net.au/microsite/hs/FootyFansSurvey2010/


Who is the AFL’s toughest player?
Jimmy Bartel
Campbell Brown
Jonathan Brown
Daniel Cross
Patrick Dangerfield
Lenny Hayes
Barry Hall
Luke Hodge
Chris Judd
Brett Kirk
Jordan Lewis
Dustin Martin  :thumbsup
Max Rooke
Joel Selwood
Brad Sewell

Nick Maxwell  :rollin. Beating up on first gamers is apparently tough  ???  ::)


Cuz was listed under players you love to hate  ???
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 25, 2010, 07:25:32 PM
Yeah and skinny ones at that
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2010, 12:04:18 PM
Dusty's birthday today. He turns just 19  :birthday.

A well deserved mid-season break to celebrate  :clapping
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jacosh on June 26, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
 :birthday Dustin, hope you have a great day.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 26, 2010, 04:09:23 PM
Martin got my vote
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on June 27, 2010, 04:26:25 AM
And mine, in the end when I think about it he is! as tough as any of those others anyway.
Being a first year player makes it even more impressive.

One-Eyed-CUB  ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on June 27, 2010, 08:25:07 AM
TBR on Y&B has some insight into Dusty from a conversation he had with him in the last couple of days. Making some hopeful noises about staying with us.

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=326176#post326176
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mopsy on June 27, 2010, 08:48:52 AM
Dusty's birthday today. He turns just 19  :birthday.

A well deserved mid-season break to celebrate  :clapping
Yep same day as old Mopsy here :thumbsup
 only 58 years difference in age :shh
Looking forward to seeing him win a premiership :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 27, 2010, 09:13:57 AM
Dusty's birthday today. He turns just 19  :birthday.

A well deserved mid-season break to celebrate  :clapping
Yep same day as old Mopsy here :thumbsup
 only 58 years difference in age :shh
Looking forward to seeing him win a premiership :cheers

All the great people are born around this time - it's mine tomorrow.   ;D  And like you Mopsy, I have a few up on Dusty too!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jacosh on June 27, 2010, 11:07:04 AM
Happy B/Day Mopsy & Smokey.
Hope you both have great days.

 :birthday :birthday
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: big tone on June 27, 2010, 08:25:54 PM
A little birdie tells me that Dustin got himself a few new tattoos for his birthday.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 29, 2010, 03:49:07 PM
Little birdie on the money BT  ;)


Martin honours Maori heritage
Jon Pierik
Tuesday, 29 June 2010


(http://www.backpagelead.com.au/images/stories/afl/martin-dustin3-280610.jpg)
(http://www.backpagelead.com.au/images/stories/afl/martin-dustin4-280610.jpg)

Dustin Martin, Richmond’s rookie sensation, has unveiled the league’s most dramatic insignia tattoos.

The talented midfielder who claimed after being selected with the third pick in last year’s national draft that he was “born to play in the AFL” – and has proven just that this season – has paid tribute to his father Shane and their Maori heritage with the insignia “Ngati Maru” emblazoned on one side of his neck.

In a complex story detailed on the New Zealand government’s website, the tale of the Ngati Maru tribe featured the emergence of the leader Rautao and the retribution he took for the death of his father and brother, the death of a Hauraki “water monster”, further conflicts with northern tribes and the rise of Hauauru as a leader.

In a 2006 census, it was found there were 3,375 Maori descendents of the Ngati Maru.

Martin revealed the tattoos while training at Punt Rd on Tuesday, having had the work done during the mid-season break.

“I actually asked him do they mean what they say – the words,” a Tigers spokesman told backpagelead.com.au.

“He said they were just from his bloodlines.”

Martin also has insignia on the other side of his neck but the words were less clear.

Shane Martin shifted to Australia when he was 21 and was known to all as “Kiwi” when he played football in the Bendigo league.

It’s not the first time Martin has made a statement – literally – on his body.

In November last year, soon after he was drafted with the No.3 pick by the Tigers, it was revealed he had a large tattoo “Live Free. Die Free” inked on his chest.

He said at the time it was a motto he and his father lived by and both had imprinted on their bodies.

The tattoos, however, didn’t appear to overly impress Richmond’s media manager at the time who, conscious of the club’s reputation, stepped in when Martin was asked to lift his shirt by reporters.

The Tigers this season also stopped midfielder Richard Tambling from revealing his chest tattoos featuring the names of his children for a photo shoot.

Teammate Ben Cousins has attracted plenty of attention for his “Such is Life” tattoo.

Martin recently moved in with Tigers president Gary March, who did not wish to comment when contacted today.

Martin has a colourful background, having left Castlemaine High – and school - after year nine and moved to Sydney with his father. There he worked at his dad’s transports business and his dad’s girlfriend’s sports apparel business.

He returned to Victoria in 2008 and played a handful of game with the Bendigo Pioneers.

Buoyed by this form, he emerged as a stand-out in the under-18 competition last year, claiming the Pioneers’ best and fairest and attracting the attention of all AFL clubs bar botom-placed Melbourne, who had settled on Tom Scully and Jack Trengove as their first two picks in the national draft.

Martin has played every game this season and has been in such great form that he has already been offered a multi-million dollar to join Greater Western Sydney from 2012.

But he cannot win the Rising Star award after pleading guilty to a front-on bump in round three.

http://www.backpagelead.com.au/afl/1739-martin-unveils-maori-tattoo-


Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on June 29, 2010, 04:05:46 PM
Wow does this kid look mean or what.

This club has been desperate for a hard edged player for decades. Not only is he hard but has a body that can actually do damage. Aww such man love...

Neck tattoo's seem to upset people alot, very in your face. I personally love them because they get such a reaction.


Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 29, 2010, 04:12:14 PM
CV your right. Spot on, with all points.

I'm not a huge fan of tattoos and making a statement with body art. Who cares, each to there own I suppose.

I can't think of a more painful part of the body to get a tattoo on. I'm looking forward to Martin line up on Daisy Thomas and just see Thomas rotate himself off lol.

About time we got a no frills, hard nosed toughie (Sorry WP) in our midfield.



Edited for avoiding the swear filter.
No need to apologise because it gets edited like the others. As it is the first time you've done this Pope you get a one off warning. The use of the "c" word is unacceptable in any form and reminder that a 48 hour suspension to the swear bench applies to all posters if it is used.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on June 29, 2010, 05:50:37 PM

I can't think of a more painful part of the body to get a tattoo on.

Think a bit more.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 29, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
under your arm.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 29, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
He's Maori !

No wonder i love the kid.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TFL on June 29, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
It was a major attraction yesterday at the Tiger Cibs footy clinic, i tried to take some photos of it but couldnt get the right angle.

Interesting look.....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 29, 2010, 09:05:42 PM
Gotta love this kid u know he will back it up on the field
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on June 29, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Seems like a kid with a lot of baggage... :-\ He's undoubtably a tough, hard nosed player but I worry that perhaps this constant need to seek his dad's approval may be a problem later on. I'm sure I'm reading far too much into this but this guy has fast turned into my favourite tiger so I am just waiting for something to happen  :help  He's going to be the scariest player in the AFL without question!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 29, 2010, 09:18:02 PM
relax on that.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on June 29, 2010, 10:42:45 PM
relax on that.

I'm sure you're right Ox. Great avatar by the way.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2010, 04:46:30 AM
Dustin Martin and father go neck and neck in Maori stakes
Aaron Langmaid
Herald Sun
 June 30, 2010


FOOTBALLERS often wear their hearts on their sleeve - but young Richmond star Dustin Martin now wears his on his neck.

 The No.3 draft pick returned from the mid-season break with bold new ink - the Maori words 'Ngati Maru' and 'Matai Whetu'.

It's the second set of tattoos that mirror those stamped on his father, Shane.

It was revealed at November's draft that the pair have 'Live Free. Die Free' across their torsos.

"Me and Dad got it and it is just kind of a saying that we came up with together," Dustin explained last year.

"He's been a great support, as has all my family. They have been a big part of getting me here."

Ngati Maru is his extended family's North Island tribe and Matai Whetu is its meeting place.

It's believed others in Martin's family have the tattoo and the inscription was close to the young player's heart.

Martin, who was born in Castlemaine and lives with club president Gary March, joins a long line of football players who have tattoos with indigenous roots, including Hawthorn forward Lance Franklin.

Franklin this year unveiled an Aboriginal-inspired artwork on his left arm.

Richmond teammate Ben Cousins has the phrase 'Such if Life' emblazoned across his lower torso.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dustin-martin-and-father-go-neck-and-neck-in-maori-stakes/story-e6frf9jf-1225885954153
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 30, 2010, 07:42:02 AM

I can't think of a more painful part of the body to get a tattoo on.

Think a bit more.
:lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on June 30, 2010, 09:12:54 AM
Seems like a kid with a lot of baggage... :-\ He's undoubtably a tough, hard nosed player but I worry that perhaps this constant need to seek his dad's approval may be a problem later on. I'm sure I'm reading far too much into this but this guy has fast turned into my favourite tiger so I am just waiting for something to happen  :help  He's going to be the scariest player in the AFL without question!
Heh?  Most young blokes look up to their dads and to their heritage when they are establishing their own identity, it isn't 'baggage'.  It is just trying to find your place in the world.  This is who I am, this is where I come from.  And then your write the rest as you go.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on June 30, 2010, 09:17:04 AM
Seems like a kid with a lot of baggage... :-\ He's undoubtably a tough, hard nosed player but I worry that perhaps this constant need to seek his dad's approval may be a problem later on. I'm sure I'm reading far too much into this but this guy has fast turned into my favourite tiger so I am just waiting for something to happen  :help  He's going to be the scariest player in the AFL without question!

Sorry but your comments here are comical at its best. LMFAO

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2010, 01:17:20 PM

I can't think of a more VISIBLE painful part of the body to get a tattoo on.

Think a bit more.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on June 30, 2010, 03:07:10 PM
Seems like a kid with a lot of baggage... :-\ He's undoubtably a tough, hard nosed player but I worry that perhaps this constant need to seek his dad's approval may be a problem later on. I'm sure I'm reading far too much into this but this guy has fast turned into my favourite tiger so I am just waiting for something to happen  :help  He's going to be the scariest player in the AFL without question!

Sorry but your comments here are comical at its best. LMFAO

Glad to give you a laugh daniel. As I've already said - I'm sure my concerns are unwarranted but he may be a fairly insecure bloke with a desperate need to please his dad which could hinder his career or enhance it depending if this drive him to be successful or holds him back. I'm sure it will be the former. 

I'm not trying to knock the bloke in face I think he is already a quality player and could be a star. I'm just voicing my concerns but owls assessment of his motivations is probably correct rather than mine - at least I hope so for our sake.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on June 30, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Dusty on SEN now.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
Brief summary of what Dusty said on SEN...

* Pulls up sore after a game. Need to do all the recovery after each game. Fitness staff continually ask how he is and they have been great.

* Started in the practice matches- just running more and more to get fit. Does now an extra swim and bike which helps a lot.

* Still remembers the build up to the Vic Country vs Vic Metro game last year in the U18. A special day.

* Travelling interstate with Vic Country twice last year really helped with travelling 5 times this year with Richmond. Know a lot what's involved already.

* One of the coaches got him to bounce the ball around the ground before training with his left hand to

* Just likes to get out there and play footy. Mum drives him crazy as she gets excited.

* U10s-U15s - Campbell's Creek (?), U16 Castlemaine, then Juniors then Seniors with Campbelltown in NSW. Missed down here so came back to Castlemaine. Initially missed the Bendigo Pioneers squad. Regrets not staying in Victoria and going through the system fully. Hartford joked imagine if Dusty had stayed in the system given how good he is now anyway.

* Pain threhold for the ink on the neck? 8/10
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 30, 2010, 04:33:39 PM

* U10s-U15s - Campbell's Creek (?),

No need for a (?) Mr One-Eyed, Campbells Creek is next door to Castlemaine (about 5-10 mins from Castlemaine)  ;D

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2010, 05:21:14 PM

* U10s-U15s - Campbell's Creek (?),

No need for a (?) Mr One-Eyed, Campbells Creek is next door to Castlemaine (about 5-10 mins from Castlemaine)  ;D
Ta WP  :thumbsup. They said in the interview it was next to Castlemaine but I wasn't sure if I got the name 100% right.


Here's the audio link for those that missed Dusty's interview

http://sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Dustin-Martin/639
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 30, 2010, 05:35:46 PM

* U10s-U15s - Campbell's Creek (?),

No need for a (?) Mr One-Eyed, Campbells Creek is next door to Castlemaine (about 5-10 mins from Castlemaine)  ;D



Yep.  Hardly even a township now but my father was born and raised there on his parent's poultry farm.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 30, 2010, 06:46:37 PM
* Pain threhold for the ink on the neck? 8/10

Given he's a tough SOB already, that probably makes it a 12/10 for most people
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jacosh on June 30, 2010, 07:35:45 PM
Seems like a kid with a lot of baggage... :-\ He's undoubtably a tough, hard nosed player but I worry that perhaps this constant need to seek his dad's approval may be a problem later on. I'm sure I'm reading far too much into this but this guy has fast turned into my favourite tiger so I am just waiting for something to happen  :help  He's going to be the scariest player in the AFL without question!
Heh?  Most young blokes look up to their dads and to their heritage when they are establishing their own identity, it isn't 'baggage'.  It is just trying to find your place in the world.  This is who I am, this is where I come from.  And then your write the rest as you go.

Your right there Owl.
Especially with islanders in general, they are mostly bought up to respect their roots and have loyalty to those who have earned it.  I personally think he will stay at Richmond given they gave him his chance at AFL, I would imagine his father is telling him such as well if he trully is loyal to his heritage.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on July 11, 2010, 01:20:39 AM
i love this man.

will be the most hollow rising star winner this year. 

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2010, 01:55:16 AM
Simply a freak and a star. He made that banana goal under pressure look like a piece of cake. Never looked like missing off the boot. Hopefully we are mindful he is still only 19 and managing his workload carefully as he still has a decade of footy ahead of him. He just laps up the tough hard stuff inside stoppages and doesn't know meaning of the word quit. He's a winner and plays accordingly.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Damo on July 11, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
The passion of the entire group as they work towards something might help us retain the kid.

We need him in Yellow and Black.

He is an out and out gun
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: jackstar is back again on July 11, 2010, 10:57:43 AM
hey Damo, did u go last night ?? if you did , do you sit in aisle 31 ? ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hes My Hero on July 11, 2010, 12:12:22 PM
hey Damo, did u go last night ?? if you did , do you sit in aisle 31 ? ;)

I dont know about Damo but i was in aisle 30. :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on July 11, 2010, 12:15:47 PM
Had my say on Martin, if I keep doing it you guys might take me for real  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on July 11, 2010, 12:20:32 PM
he is a freaking gun

plays like a man , plays like a seasoned star 

has no fear

he better not leave us

makes joel selwoods debut season look average !!!!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on July 11, 2010, 12:27:50 PM
lol 5 year deal?. :gotigers

Even his celebrations he goes hard he nearly killed Connors after his first goal lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2010, 05:33:36 PM
Dusty won't leave. We're a young and up and coming side part of a well supported and passionate club which is now winning games and he's getting maximum gametime in the heart of the action.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on July 11, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
he is a freaking gun

plays like a man , plays like a seasoned star 

has no fear

he better not leave us

makes joel selwoods debut season look average !!!!!

He won't be going anywhere judging on his obvious bond with the other players and excitment of winning in the yellow and black. I was at the game and watching Dusty celebrate with the other players and coaches, hugging them with pure joy, my brother turned to me and said 'He's not going anywhere'. Hard to argue with that given how well we are going and the passion of the group.

Stripes
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on July 11, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
Can Martin still poll RS votes like in the Brownlow?

Could be a bit embarrassing for the AFL and the eventual winner
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2010, 05:49:54 AM
He's strong and he's bold
EMMA QUAYLE
August 1, 2010

 
(http://images.theage.com.au/2010/07/31/1727241/svDUSTINMARTIN-420x0.jpg)
Dustin Martin is comfortable in the spotlight. Photo: Craig Sillitoe

BEFORE he was drafted by Richmond late last year, Dustin Martin was boarding a few minutes' drive outside Bendigo with one of his junior teammates and his mother. They lived in a housing estate with new homes springing up everywhere, and as Martin leaned against a tree on a vacant property, having his photo taken for an Age article, a group of men working across the road began giving him a hard time.

They outnumbered him, they weren't particularly nice and they would have prompted many teenage footballers to request an alternative location. But they didn't worry this young man, at all. “They're idiots,” shrugged Martin, tucking a football underneath his arm, looking back at the camera, ignoring them completely and getting on with things. “Who cares about them?”

Not much gets under Dustin Martin's skin. “I don't like traffic …” said the midfielder this week, adding, “… and I hate slow drivers. But that's probably it, I reckon.” Watching the 19-year-old play all but one of Richmond's games this year, it has become clear that not much ruffles him on the field, either. He ranks second at his club for clearances and inside 50s, and third for contested possessions and disposals, and was nominated for the Rising Star Award after the 47-point win against Port Adelaide in round 10.

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/07/31/1727263/svTATTS-420x0.jpg (http://images.theage.com.au/2010/07/31/1727263/svTATTS-420x0.jpg)
Dustin Martin shows off his tatts. Photo: Vince Caligiuri


Shadowed by Brett Kirk for much of the Tigers' round-14 win over Sydney, it was Martin who burst out of a pack late in the game, thumping the ball towards goal — this from a first-year player. Everything that has happened in the past eight months has been new to him. He wanted to play all of his first season, and he has found a way to, but not all of it has been as seamless as it has seemed from the outside.

It was obvious, in the few weeks leading up to the draft, that the Tigers would call Martin's name, but it still had to happen and he still went to bed each night thinking about how much things would suck if, for some reason, he didn't end up at an AFL club.

Moving to Melbourne, he was seriously unsure how he would remember the way to training each day. Waiting to start a pre-season run around the Tan, he felt nervous, hoping he wouldn't post a lousy time. “I thought I knew what it would be like, but everything surprised me, just with how professional it was, all the little things you had to do,” he explained. “I thought it would just be that we'd go to the club, train, and that's it. But you've got meetings, massages, physio, heaps of little things you wouldn't have thought of.”

He might have looked instantly comfortable against some of the competition's best midfielders, but he hasn't always felt that way. “It's still pretty weird, to be honest, playing against any team,” he said. “I still think of how I used to watch some of the players and think of how good they were, how I could never be that good. And then to be playing against them, competing against them and trying to beat them to get the footy, it's the weirdest thing. I like it, though. I like it a lot.”

As a footballer, Martin has been trying to get better every day. In training sessions, he reminds himself to ask not only why he has done something wrong, but what he has done right. At a stoppage during his round-one debut against Carlton, he paused for a moment, watching the ball, then looked for his opponent and saw him metres and metres away, running into the Blues' forward line. “I couldn't believe it. I just couldn't believe how fast the game was, how quick the players were. I had this problem with my defensive side — and I still do it a little bit — where I was watching the ball more than I should have been,” he said.

“Sometimes I just sort of sit there and watch where the ball's going, and all of sudden my man's down the other end of the ground and I'm chasing him. It's not like you can just go out there and play footy, in the AFL. You can at times, but you've to remember game plans, structures and all those things. There's a lot more to think about, but I think I'm getting better. Now I'm a bit more aware about what's going on around me. I still watch the footy a bit, but I think I do it less. That's what I had to do, switch on a bit quicker, jump onto things. I've improved a bit each week, I reckon.”

In other ways, Martin has tried not to move too far, too fast. As a teenager, he dropped out of his Castlemaine high school at the end of year nine, a decision he regrets now, but understands. “I was always keen to play AFL and I'd played in a schoolboys team and that sort of thing, but I started hanging out with blokes who weren't that interested in footy and who were kind of dragging me away from it a bit. Or, not dragging me away, but who probably just weren't such a good influence,” he said.

His father, Shane, made him move to Sydney and put him to work at his transport company, where Martin worked on the computer in the back office and loaded trucks. At Campbelltown, he played football alongside a few kids signed to NSW scholarships, and realised he should be able to play AFL too, if he wanted to.

He was away from home, he had no friends and he was working long, boring days. He was ready to go back, and he went back with more purpose. “I was just wasting my time, wasting my life up there,” said Martin, who made the Bendigo under-18 side four rounds into last year and by the end of the season was a No. 3 draft pick. “It was just, 'what am I doing with my life?' My dad was saying to me, 'These mates are no good for you' and all I was saying was, 'Yeah, whatever'. I wasn't going to school, I wasn't doing anything good with my time. He got me up there and it made me realise that I wasn't really going anywhere. I was working 12 hours a day, in a pooty job, and I didn't want to do that for however many years, for the rest of my life. There was no point in me being there, so I pretty much knew that I had to knuckle down.”

Martin grew up quickly, but he has, in his words, “sort of settled back down”. He moved in with a host family after the draft, then out to Altona with teammates Jayden Post and Ben Nason. He thought it was what he wanted to do, but he quickly realised that being independent meant cooking, and cleaning, and all those annoying things. From there, he moved in with club president Gary March and his family.

"I realised I wanted to just have a family around me again. I don't know what it is, it's just going home and having people there, I guess, sitting down to dinner with a family. It's been a much better thing for me, but we joke about it a bit. The boys were probably happy I went. I can be a little bit messy.”

He also has, he said, one more pet hate for the list. “Jayden Post's cooking. It's pretty bad. Can you add that in?”

Martin is learning more and more about footy — and about life — each day. “I've learnt a lot about life, I reckon,” he said. “Like how good it is to have a routine, to have a bit of purpose with what you do. How important it is, if you're doing something, to do it properly.” He is looking forward to the next month, to complete his plans to play an (almost) full first season.

“It feels like I've been here for ages already, but I'm still loving it every day,” he said. “I never wake up and wish I didn't have to train. I just love doing everything. When you're with the boys after the game, singing the song, it's so good. Even when you walk out of the ground, walk down Punt Road after a game with all the supporters, it's a pretty awesome feeling. It's been a good year, so far. It's been a really good year.”

 

TALE OF THE TATTS
 

DUSTIN Martin had his neck tattooed in June, returning from the mid-season break with two Maori phrases - Ngati Maru and Matai Whetu - on either side of his neck. He and father Shane also have an identical tattoo, "Live Free. Die Free" across their stomachs.

Ngati Maru, said Martin, represents his father's "bloodlines", while Matai Whetu is his family's traditional meeting place. "It's just about my heritage. It's something I'd wanted to get done for a while," he said. "Some spots weren't too bad, but other bits just killed."

 

RISING FAST

(Stats for Rising Star nominees after round 17)

Disposals (ave)
1 Tom Rockliff (BL, 14 games) 22.1
2 Jordan Gysberts (Melb, 3) 21
3 Tom Scully (Melb, 16) 20.4
=4 Dustin Martin (Rich, 16) 20.3
=4 Jack Trengove (Melb, 14) 20.3

Disposal efficiency
1 Phil Davis (Adel, 12 games) 83.4%
2 Ben Reid (Coll, 14) 78.9%
3 Ben Stratton (Haw, 15) 77.7%
4 Jarrad Grant (WB, 13) 75.3%
5 Tom Rockliff (BL, 14) 73.2%
(Martin 70.2%)

Contested possessions (ave)
=1 Dustin Martin (Rich, 16 games) 8.4

=1 Nic Naitanui (WC, 17) 8.4
3 Jordan Gysberts (Melb, 3) 8
4 Dan Hannebery (Syd, 15) 7.6
5 Jack Trengove (Melb, 14) 7

Clearances
1 Dustin Martin (Rich, 16 games) 4.8

2 Nic Naitanui (WC, 17) 3.8
3 Ryan Bastinac (NM, 17) 2.9
=4 Jack Trengove (Melb, 14) 2.9
=4 Jordan Gysberts (Melb, 3) 2.9

Tackles
1 Jack Redden (BL, 17 games) 5.7
2 Jack Trengove (Melb, 14) 3.9
3 Tom Scully (Melb, 16) 3.7
4 Todd Banfi eld (BL, 17) 3.5
5 Dustin Martin (Rich, 16) 3.4

Inside 50s
1 Dustin Martin (Rich, 16 games) 3.7

2 Todd Banfi eld (BL, 17) 3.5
3 Jack Redden (BL, 17) 3.4
4 Nat Fyfe (Freo, 12) 3.3
5 Ryan Bastinac (NM, 17) 2.9

Marks
=1 Ben Reid (Coll, 14 games) 5.4
=1 Tom Rockliff (BL, 14) 5.4
=1 Ben Stratton (Haw, 15) 5.4
=1 Jack Redden (BL, 17) 5.4
=1 Phil Davis (Adel, 12) 5.4
=1 Jarrad Grant (WB, 13) 5.4
(Martin 2.1)

STATS: CHAMPION DATA

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/hes-strong-and-hes-bold-20100731-110mz.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 01, 2010, 10:01:13 AM
GUN
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 01, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Emma Quayle sets a standard in her work that many other so called sports journalists should take note of.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on August 01, 2010, 12:16:50 PM
Emma Quayle sets a standard in her work that many other so called sports journalists should take note of.


exactly!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 01, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
He's also tough and rough
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 01, 2010, 04:43:35 PM
Did Dusty drop the 'F' bomb in the interview with Colby on the ground?
Needs some media work as he didn't have the ready made cliches!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2010, 08:40:01 PM
Caro mentioned earlier tonight on 3aw that Cousins has told people at Richmond that Martin is the best first year player he's ever played alongside.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 08:52:34 PM
Can Martin still poll RS votes like in the Brownlow?

Could be a bit embarrassing for the AFL and the eventual winner

no kb said he will get no votes at all
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 08:53:23 PM
Caro mentioned earlier tonight on 3aw that Cousins has told people at Richmond that Martin is the best first year player he's ever played alongside.

thats cos dusty is
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 04, 2010, 01:11:03 AM
The Herald-Sun are obsessed with footballers' tattoos especially Dusty's :yawn.

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/08/03/1225900/766714-dustin-martin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 05, 2010, 06:18:41 PM
Hardwick: Martin the best youngster
sen.com.au
5-8-2010

 
Dustin Martin has produced one of the best first seasons seen by a player in AFL history.

That was the verdict of Richmond coach Damien Hardwick on Thursday as the Tigers and Martin prepared to face a Melbourne side chock-full of some of the game's most exciting young talent, at the MCG on Sunday.

Martin, the No.3 pick in last year's national draft, will come up against the two players taken immediately ahead of him in what was a stellar crop of 2009 draftees, in Melbourne pair Tom Scully and Jack Trengove.

However, while Martin is ineligible to win this year's AFL Rising Star Award - after accepting a reprimand for collecting Sydney's Josh Kennedy with a front-on bump in Round 3 - Hardwick has no doubt that if not for that incident, his young gun would be acclaimed the league's best young player this season.

"I think you would struggle to see a better first season," he said of Martin, prior to Richmond's training session at Victoria Park on Thursday.

Martin has burst onto the scene like a seasoned player, not only averaging more than 20 disposals per game while playing 17 of the 18 matches to date, but also impressing with his ability to win the contested ball - an area first year players traditionally struggle in, given their lack of size compared to older players.

"He is elite in a lot of areas," Hardwick said of Martin.

"He is elite in his ability to win the ball and he is a great clearance player and he is going to be a very good player for our club for a long time."

And Hardwick says that while Martin can consider himself unlucky to be ineligible to win the Rising Star Award - an award he surely would have won - he said that would not worry the 19-year-old in the slightest.

"It's an individual award and if you go and ask Dusty whether he wins it or not, he probably doesn’t mind as long as he is playing good footy for the Richmond Football Club and we are winning games."

Hardwick said Martin had also been helped considerably in his first season by the steadying advice and influence of veteran Ben Cousins - one of the AFL's best midfielders of the past decade, who has acted as a mentor for Martin throughout the season.

However despite Cousins' positive influence on the Tigers' young group and his own stellar form of recent weeks, Hardwick said the club was still no closer to deciding on whether to offer Cousins a new deal to continue his career in 2011.

http://sen.com.au/display-article/Hardwick-Martin-the-best-youngster/13212
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne again on August 05, 2010, 11:57:11 PM
This is why cuz needs to play on next year.
One more year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on August 06, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs215.snc4/39079_422713823275_298686323275_4627817_7691170_n.jpg)

Take that Jeromey!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 06, 2010, 09:36:37 AM
great pick

look the boys watching , their facial expressions say it all
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on August 06, 2010, 09:39:14 AM
great pick

look the boys watching , their facial expressions say it all

O'Rielly is thinking 'i'm not tackling that thing!'  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on August 06, 2010, 12:38:36 PM
lol Dusty looks like he's enjoying himself.  ;D There's the "trademark" for you Bruce!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 06, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2010, 01:11:08 AM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?

Probably as good as you playing with Clokes dick at Eastern Ranges  liar  ;D

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 07, 2010, 09:22:37 AM
He looks like he's about to pick him up by the torso and throw him out of the way :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 08, 2010, 11:27:36 PM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?

Probably as good as you playing with Clokes dick at Eastern Ranges  liar  ;D



Lol you're pathetic. You're knowledge in every area of football has the credibility of a dead fish. Come up with something new instead of primary school insults for a change..

I love your poor assumptions, keep embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 08, 2010, 11:28:17 PM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?

Probably as good as you playing with Clokes dick at Eastern Ranges  liar  ;D



Lol you're pathetic. You're knowledge in every area of football has the credibility of a dead fish. Come up with something new instead of primary school insults for a change..

I love your poor assumptions, keep embarrassing yourself.

You also never answered the question? How's your best mate John Butcher going?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 09, 2010, 04:02:35 AM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?

Probably as good as you playing with Clokes dick at Eastern Ranges  liar  ;D



Lol you're pathetic. You're knowledge in every area of football has the credibility of a dead fish. Come up with something new instead of primary school insults for a change..

I love your poor assumptions, keep embarrassing yourself.

You also never answered the question? How's your best mate John Butcher going?

 ::)

probably done a sub lax like Griffiths hahaah so much for your football knowledge liar little boy
Put up or shut up
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2010, 06:43:13 AM
Enough with the insults!

This thread is to discuss Dustin Martin. Stick to the topic!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on August 09, 2010, 09:39:55 AM
Monk vs Pope, Ramps vs GB ... afew more stoushes and we could have online wrestlemania  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 09, 2010, 10:06:13 AM
TM, hows Butcher going you old sage?

Probably as good as you playing with Clokes dick at Eastern Ranges  liar  ;D



Lol you're pathetic. You're knowledge in every area of football has the credibility of a dead fish. Come up with something new instead of primary school insults for a change..

I love your poor assumptions, keep embarrassing yourself.

You also never answered the question? How's your best mate John Butcher going?

 ::)

probably done a sub lax like Griffiths hahaah so much for your football knowledge liar little boy
Put up or shut up

You still don't make any sense and still haven't answered the question?

If you re-read my post about the sub lax I said "Hope its not serious and just a sub lax", so once again you're incorrect.

Just for once try and a) get it right and b) get it within the rules of the forum.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 09, 2010, 10:47:01 AM
 no more from you idiot
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 09, 2010, 10:51:25 AM
Enough with the insults!

This thread is to discuss Dustin Martin. Stick to the topic!

dustin who lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on August 09, 2010, 10:00:58 PM
im sure the announcement isnt faraway. :thumbsup

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ramps on August 09, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
im sure the announcement isnt faraway. :thumbsup



2013 or 2014?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 10, 2010, 12:00:00 AM
im sure the announcement isnt faraway. :thumbsup

Announce the glamour re-signings and then do the dirty work of telling those no longer required.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 10, 2010, 01:13:24 AM
Announce the glamour re-signings and then do the dirty work of telling those no longer required.
We don't have to announce the delistings until Oct 31. While those on the chop would know their time is up you wouldn't announce it publicly before trade week.

im sure the announcement isnt faraway. :thumbsup
I've heard it'll be till 2014. A further 3 years on top of his existing 2-year contract. No idea of dollars though except you'd expect it to be far far more than the standard draftee contract he's on now. It wouldn't surprise me if we forward load the new deal with the salary cap room we have so we can keep this young group together long-term.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
Gary March said there'd be good news in a couple of weeks regarding re-signings. Mark Robinson said Martin's re-signing will be announced this week (Robbo writing an article about it).

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on August 21, 2010, 01:41:29 PM
 :pray :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2010, 02:10:39 PM
Mark Robinson believes Dusty will be $350k-400k.

I only heard it in the background but Craig Cameron said something about 5 year contracts isn't something we'd look at.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 21, 2010, 02:46:44 PM
Mark Robinson believes Dusty will be $350k-400k.

I only heard it in the background but Craig Cameron said something about 5 year contracts isn't something we'd look at.

6 year contract
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2010, 02:39:10 AM
Richmond bullish about retaining Martin
Jon Pierik
August 22, 2010

 
Tiger Dustin Martin is set to remain in the yellow and black. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

BOOM Richmond youngster Dustin Martin is poised to ignore interstate overtures and sign a contract extension with the Tigers.

The Tigers began negotiations with player manager Ricky Nixon earlier this year after Martin, having impressed in his opening six matches, emerged as a target of the Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney.

Martin, the No. 3 pick in last year's national draft, is contracted until the end of 2011 on a base salary of $57,300, plus match payments of $2800.

Tigers president Gary March yesterday suggested a new deal could be announced as early as this week.

''There will be some good news in the next couple of weeks about our re-signings,'' he said.

Martin said mid-year he wanted to remain a Tiger. The new deal could reap the 19-year-old more than $300,000 per season.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-bullish-about-retaining-martin-20100821-139y1.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 29, 2010, 01:03:02 AM
Matty Lloyd's thoughts on Martin.....

I have sung Dustin Martin's praises all year and as the Tigers become a force in coming years, I see Martin having the influence of a Luke Hodge. Martin - ineligible to win the Rising Star - is beautifully skilled, but uncompromising in his attack on the ball and the man, and I can see him making big plays in big games when his team needs someone to stand tall.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-superstars-make-way-for-the-rising-stars-20100828-13wwq.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on September 05, 2010, 12:40:38 AM
watched teh NAB rising star but i jumped up in the air when he said money wasent a priority for me and i think i will be a tiger for life  :gotigers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 06, 2010, 11:00:01 PM
Dusty came second in the best first year player award at tonight's AFLPA's MVP awards night.....


Fremantle’s Michael Barlow was a runaway winner of the Best First Year Player Award, polling 442 votes. Dustin Martin (129) and Tom Scully (49) trailed him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102102/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 1965 on September 07, 2010, 06:23:12 AM
Dusty came second in the best first year player award at tonight's AFLPA's MVP awards night.....


Fremantle’s Michael Barlow was a runaway winner of the Best First Year Player Award, polling 442 votes. Dustin Martin (129) and Tom Scully (49) trailed him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102102/default.aspx

Good result.

There is less pressure on the young man IMHO not winning this or the Rising Star.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 07, 2010, 09:18:20 AM
I would like to see Dustin do some media training in the foreseable future, he is going to need it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 07, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
I would like to see Dustin do some media training in the foreseable future, he is going to need it.

He could attend with Dane Swan - not exactly God's answer to public speaking after watching him last night!    :)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on September 07, 2010, 11:27:52 AM
I would like to see Dustin do some media training in the foreseable future, he is going to need it.

Great avatar mate - now what were you saying  :o ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 07, 2010, 04:47:13 PM
I'd prefer Marto be left to let his on-field performances do the talking for him. They say more than enough.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 07, 2010, 07:32:01 PM
Dustin Martin (129) and Tom Scully (49) trailed him.

Where's Hanneberry?

Dusty was robbed.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on September 07, 2010, 08:06:01 PM
Dustin Martin (129) and Tom Scully (49) trailed him.

Where's Hanneberry?

Dusty was robbed.
Wasn't a first year player, he was drafted in 2008
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 07, 2010, 08:37:14 PM
Wasn't a first year player, he was drafted in 2008

Good point. ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
DUSTIN SHAFTED
# Jon Ralph
# From: Herald Sun
# September 10, 2010 12:12PM



DON'T expect a change to the criteria for eligibility for the AFL Rising Star and Brownlow Medal any time soon.

Richmond's Dustin Martin was desperately unlucky to miss out on the Rising Star award, all because he did the team thing and accepted a 90-odd point reprimand early on in the season.

He had no choice - if he took it on at the tribunal and lost he would be seen to be selfish.

But because the base charge was over 100 points he was ineligible, as are players for the Brownlow Medal.

The AFL system virtually forced players to accept early pleas.

Most players only take on charges if they are not risking an extra week's suspension.

But the AFLPA says its constituents have bigger fish to fry - they want to introduce the use of precedents - and are unlikely to challenge the rules this year.

Sooner or later a player will lose the Brownlow Medal for a minor offence that should have been cleared by the match review panel.

But because the system forces players to accept their penalties, there is the distinct possibility it could all end in tears.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-take-a-pay-cut-fev/story-e6frf9jf-1225914748147
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2010, 01:04:28 PM
Brownlow haul caps Martin’s debut
richmondfc.com.au
By Adrian Ceddia
Tue 21 Sep, 2010


Richmond young gun Dustin Martin can add another impressive statistic to his achievements in his first year of football, after last night’s Brownlow Medal count.

The 19-year-old polled six votes in the Brownlow in his debut season - the most by a Richmond player in his first season since Craig Lambert in 1988.

Lambert, who played 123 games for the Tigers before moving to Brisbane, polled 10 votes in that year.

In this year’s count, Martin’s votes came against West Coast in Round 12 (one), Brisbane in Round 13 (two), Fremantle in Round 15 (two) and Adelaide in Round 18 (one).

Martin (6), Daniel Connors (3) and Mitch Morton (1) received Brownlow votes for the first time in their careers.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/102962/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on September 21, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Did he get the most out of all the first year players from any club?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on September 21, 2010, 01:39:58 PM
Hannaberry got 9 I believe, 3 BOG
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 21, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
Hannebery got 9 votes (3 x 3).

Edit:  Sorry CV, beat me to it!

Edit #2:  Barlow got 12 (2 x 3, 3 x 2).

Edit # 3: As Wayne said, Hannebery was a 2nd year player.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on September 21, 2010, 01:41:38 PM
Dustin polled in more games though. 4
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on September 21, 2010, 01:50:39 PM
Hannaberry got 9 I believe, 3 BOG

He wasn't a first year player though.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2010, 03:04:43 AM
Age today saying we were forced to "pay through the nose" to keep Martin away from GWS' clutches.....



Richmond was the club that first identified how a lowly club was vulnerable to expansion cradle snatching. The Tigers were sufficiently concerned about Dustin Martin's exposure to market forces (having a dad based in GWS territory) that they went to Andrew Demetriou to plead their case; they signed him soon afterwards. But they paid through the nose.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-erred-in-concessions-as-the-lure-of-money-may-be-too-much-20101206-18mu3.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on December 07, 2010, 05:41:59 AM
We should be after Scully ourselves based on that article.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 07, 2010, 06:57:22 AM
We should be after Scully ourselves based on that article.

DOn't think so Flagman

Based on that article he wont be going anywhere
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on December 07, 2010, 08:10:20 AM
i wouldnt say we paid through the nose , if media reports were correct he would be on 400k or so in 3Yr of contract, all things being equal his stadning in the club would dictate that value in any case...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Walls gave Martin kick of the week on One Week At A Time tonight for his perfectly weighted long kick on the run from the Southern stand wing which was deliberately off the outside of his right foot so it went back inside to Jack's advantage inside 50.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
No second year blues for Dusty  :bow

26 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks and 4 goals  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on April 24, 2011, 07:45:40 PM
he's doing really well, has lifted a notch or two and is really confident in the front half and overhead...my only worry lasty year was could he improve any further, YES he can :gotigers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 24, 2011, 07:46:46 PM
Quote from: one-eyed link=topic=10166.msg231892#msg23189y2 date=1303637972
No second year blues for Dusty  :bow

26 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks and 4 goals  :thumbsup

and a goal that make Alan shearer proud from the nahas cross.  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 24, 2011, 07:52:33 PM
So when do the Dees start copping flack???
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 24, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
So when do the Dees start copping flack???

who cares.  8)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 24, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
So when do the Dees start copping flack???

who cares.  8)

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on April 24, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
Playing far better than another famous #3 draft pick at the same stage of his career
Dead set gun
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on April 24, 2011, 08:08:08 PM
Kicking multiple goals simply outstanding. Getting the footy lots. If he could just eradicate the 10% of his kicks that he shanks from time to time then he'd be unstoppable.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on April 24, 2011, 08:10:11 PM
Could end up the player of the 2009 draft. Reminded me a little of another famous No 4, Royce Hart, when he was playing around CHF today. Maybe not quite as flashy but the kid has presence, strength and is a natural footballer.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 24, 2011, 08:17:11 PM
Playing far better than another famous #3 draft pick at the same stage of his career
Dead set gun

Incredible game from a 19 yo kid who plays the game hard - not because of where his from but who he is. Full of crap? You are trademark fool.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 24, 2011, 08:20:54 PM
Love how he looks at forward line / full forward. Like a bull.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 24, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Love how he looks at forward line / full forward. Like a bull.

His forward pressure is brilliant.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 24, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
one word

unbelievable
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on April 24, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
Playing far better than another famous #3 draft pick at the same stage of his career
Dead set gun

Incredible game from a 19 yo kid who plays the game hard - not because of where his from but who he is. Full of crap? You are trademark fool.
Huh?!?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on April 24, 2011, 09:12:18 PM
I didn't get it either. Perhaps he's not talking to you. Maybe it's a poor quote?  :-\
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 24, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Mmmmm, ok... :help
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: sabartooth on April 24, 2011, 09:21:47 PM
How good is the Dusty trademark fend off   8)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 24, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
Playing far better than another famous #3 draft pick at the same stage of his career
Dead set gun

Incredible game from a 19 yo kid who plays the game hard - not because of where his from but who he is. Full of crap? You are trademark fool.
Huh?!?

Infamy, sorry totally agree with your post. Comment directed at the guy who thinks he's clever for trademarking a random collection of brackets on a keyboard. I'm personally shattered he beat me to it - it seems like a fantastic money making initiative. I'm going to trademark my next dump.
He also thinks it's relevant to refer to the fact he is Maori?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on April 24, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
What a ledge, this guy stays with us! The new Jack D  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 24, 2011, 11:08:36 PM
How good is the Dusty trademark fend off   8)
They are beauties aren't they sabar :thumbsup. 19 years old and he's pushing more senior opponent out the way like they are made of thin air  :bow.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 25, 2011, 02:30:38 AM
Dimma on Dusty's game...


"He's a good player. He's had a terrific season (including nine goals)," Hardwick enthused.

"Just his work in and around stoppages. The contested-possession rate in games with the substitute rule has increased and it's bringing guys like Dustin back into the game.

"He was very very good tonight. He led from the front and some of those goals he managed to create and also kick, it was a terrific result for us."

Hardwick said Martin's 26th game for the Tigers was his best so far.

"Scoreboard-wise and probably possession-wise as well," he said.

"Just what he did with the ball."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/martin-fires-tigers-to-win-over-north-20110424-1dsxg.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 25, 2011, 02:45:00 AM
this kid will be our greatest mid fielder/forward ever.


Strength and poise of carey,a raking,accurate field kick like leon cameron and the ability to find space like judd as well as Maori pedigree for that dose of genuine hardness.

Brownlow one day = 100%   

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 25, 2011, 05:29:37 AM
this kid will be our greatest mid fielder/forward ever.


Strength and poise of carey,a raking,accurate field kick like leon cameron and the ability to find space like judd as well as Maori pedigree for that dose of genuine hardness.

Brownlow one day = 100%   



i second that
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 25, 2011, 08:43:07 AM
this kid will be our greatest mid fielder/forward ever.


Strength and poise of carey,a raking,accurate field kick like leon cameron and the ability to find space like judd as well as Maori pedigree for that dose of genuine hardness.

Brownlow one day = 100%   



He'll be the next Richmond legend...and in the all-time top 5

Titus
Dyer
Hart
Richardson
Martin

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 25, 2011, 12:01:59 PM
Foley talking about Martin.....

"Dusty was amazing. To go forward and kick four goals, have 30 touches and even some of his clearance work was exceptional," Foley told Fox Sports News.

"It certainly was an amazing game.

"He is incredibly strong. Since day one when he first came to the club he's been a strong young footballer.

"He has outmuscled a number blokes who are bigger than him, put out a few don't argues and there's not too many people who can tackle him or beat him one on one."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/richmond-midfielder-dustin-martin-shapes-as-the-key-man-in-the-tigers-hopeful-rise-up-the-afl-ladder/story-e6frf3e3-1226044390844
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on April 25, 2011, 12:15:09 PM
as good as he is ,and he is good ,hes got quite away to go to emulate the legends of the past...Lets enjoy his football ,and let the legend stuff take care of itself
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 25, 2011, 12:53:20 PM
I am mate......
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 25, 2011, 01:31:14 PM
The media can't talk about Dusty without spending half the time talking about his tatts :yawn. I laughed at the caller who said "you never saw Don Bradman inked up like the footballers today"  :wallywink :lol.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mopsy on April 25, 2011, 02:24:44 PM
How good is the Dusty trademark fend off   8)

Reminds me of watching Jack Dyer Play  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on April 25, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
How good is the Dusty trademark fend off   8)

Reminds me of watching Jack Dyer Play  :thumbsup

Half your luck.  :santa
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Fishfinger on April 25, 2011, 04:25:29 PM
You'll be getting all frisky soon, Mopsy.  :P
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on April 25, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on April 25, 2011, 08:41:30 PM
Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Jeez, not so sure about that
Conca still needs to work on some bad disposal issues, sells teammates into trouble a bit too often
Plenty to work with, but no where near Martin's level
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 25, 2011, 08:44:28 PM
conca will be a jet also no doubt

how are dermies comments, what a tosser, he reckons martin wont get any better and will actually become a slow plodder lol
dermie is a tool
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 25, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
The same dermi who said, after their grand final win in 08, he looked forward to seeing hawthorn and geelong battle it out in the next 3-4 grand finals  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 25, 2011, 08:57:32 PM
yep thats him, think the botox leaked into his pee wee brain
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on April 25, 2011, 10:25:36 PM
The same Dermie that said Travis Tuck would win 3 B&F's at the Hawks?

 :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 25, 2011, 10:34:55 PM
Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.

your taking the pee surely? are you? I guess thats your opinion

Conca had a good game but still not sold on some parts of his game. His only 5 games in though

One thing he does seem to have is poise and time when he has the ball in his hands.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 25, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
Martin adding strings to bow
richmondfc.com.au
By Murray Belkin
Mon 25 Apr, 2011


RICHMOND midfielder Dustin Martin believes the new substitute rule has added another dimension to his game after the 19-year old played a key role, not only through the midfield, but also up forward in the Tigers first win of the season.

"Instead of coming off, I can go down forward for a while, have a rest and just try and play my role down there. We have a lot of midfielders who can run through that position so it is very good," he told richmondfc.com.au.

Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/112342/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 26, 2011, 01:57:51 AM
Don't argues

Dustin Martin said hello and goodbye to about 10 Kangaroos yesterday. Yesterday, Martin went body-on-body with one of the strongest upper-body players in the league, Michael Firrito, and ragged-dolled him several times. Two weeks back, Martin ''don't argued'' an entire pack of players. Hint: When someone argues Martin is the best young player to come to the Tigers in 20 years, well, don't argue back.

Dustin Martin said in his first interview - "I was born to play AFL" - and we can't argue with that. Supreme ... and his kicking a delight.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

 :thumbsup

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mopsy on April 26, 2011, 06:29:23 AM
You'll be getting all frisky soon, Mopsy.  :P
Not likely Fishy, all that I have left are my memories
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on April 26, 2011, 08:54:01 AM
Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Jeez, not so sure about that
Conca still needs to work on some bad disposal issues, sells teammates into trouble a bit too often
Plenty to work with, but no where near Martin's level

Yeah I know he is a fair bit off Dusty but I just like what I see for someone that has played only 5 games, got a feeling on this one.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on April 26, 2011, 09:17:51 AM
Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Jeez, not so sure about that
Conca still needs to work on some bad disposal issues, sells teammates into trouble a bit too often
Plenty to work with, but no where near Martin's level

Yeah I know he is a fair bit off Dusty but I just like what I see for someone that has played only 5 games, got a feeling on this one.

I reckon I know what you are talking about CUB.

Apart from Dusty's don't argue, what did Martin have that Conc's doesn't have after 5 games.

Agree he sells some players into trouble at times and he does stuff up the odd disposal but I think he's still adjusting to the pace of the game. (Frankly I've seen a few doozies from Martin this year too.)

He's got a cool head and can think his way out of traffic the way the really good players can, and when he gets his disposal right he's creative and very accurate. Hate comparing players with other players so I won't, but I think we're going to be happy with Reece.

Be interesting to look at Concs 5 games into next season, with 20 odd games more experience and another pre season under his belt.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 26, 2011, 03:02:08 PM
Martin set to rival AFL greats, says Lyon
By Tim Clarke
SportsNewsFirst
26 April 2011 11:06AM EST


RICHMOND’s burgeoning superstar Dustin Martin is already on the way to becoming one of the best draft picks of the past ten years, according to AFL legend Garry Lyon.

After a match-winning turn against North Melbourne over the Easter weekend – which featured 33 disposals and four goals – Martin’s reputation as one of the brightest aspects of the Tigers’ future was hugely enhanced.

And just 26 AFL games into an AFL career, during which he has already finished fourth in the Richmond best-and-fairest, Lyon said the tattooed youngster should already be inked in as one of the very best selections of the last decade.

“Dustin Martin’s performance for me elevates him into the best top (draft) picks in the last ten years,” Lyon said.

“It puts him in the Selwood, (Scott) Pendlebury, (Dale) Thomas category for me – he wins contested footy, he wins clearances, he goes forward now which is the other dimension.

“He can mark above his head, he has got these uncanny ball skills, and then he kicks goals that you don’t teach.

“Dustin Martin is someone I would pay very good money to watch play footy."

Martin’s electric start to the season came after a pre-season which included an old-fashioned dressing down from coach Damien Hardwick for Martin’s post-holiday conditioning.

But having taken the criticism on board, Martin is already on his way to the same level as Geelong’s former Rising Star and captain-in-waiting Joel Selwood according to the former Melbourne great.

“33 disposals, four goals on its own stacks up – he got 12 in the defensive 50, got 12 in the midfield, he got nine in the forward 50 so that is the complete performance,” Lyon told radio Triple M.

“And he is only two years out of under-18 football.

“He has got everything you want in a footballer, a warrior type mentality, he does not shirk an issue – and then chuck in the poise and the classy finishes.

“He is going to get to a Selwood category – and he is playing in a side that has battled.

“The thing he does that Joel won’t be able to do – he could hold down a centre Half forward in the modern era.”

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/04/26/martin-set-to-rival-afl-greats-says-lyon/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 26, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
All this praise and adulation. The club should keep that photographer (Dodge I think) away from him this week or he'll probably have a shocker against the bears.
I hope he backs up again this week though.  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 26, 2011, 07:03:38 PM
Eff off Garry. After sinking the boots in for the past 10 years, you can find yourself a non-Richmond hero.

He's ours, and you, along with all the other Richmond bashers can stick it. Now that you need us, we don't need you.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 26, 2011, 07:47:57 PM
Conca looks solid and had a lot of poise.

I doubt he will get to the same class as Martin.

Maybe
Martin = voss
conca = luke power


Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Jeez, not so sure about that
Conca still needs to work on some bad disposal issues, sells teammates into trouble a bit too often
Plenty to work with, but no where near Martin's level

Yeah I know he is a fair bit off Dusty but I just like what I see for someone that has played only 5 games, got a feeling on this one.

I reckon I know what you are talking about CUB.

Apart from Dusty's don't argue, what did Martin have that Conc's doesn't have after 5 games.

Agree he sells some players into trouble at times and he does stuff up the odd disposal but I think he's still adjusting to the pace of the game. (Frankly I've seen a few doozies from Martin this year too.)

He's got a cool head and can think his way out of traffic the way the really good players can, and when he gets his disposal right he's creative and very accurate. Hate comparing players with other players so I won't, but I think we're going to be happy with Reece.

Be interesting to look at Concs 5 games into next season, with 20 odd games more experience and another pre season under his belt.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 26, 2011, 07:55:53 PM
Conca looks solid and had a lot of poise.

I doubt he will get to the same class as Martin.

Maybe
Martin = voss
conca = luke power


Teel ya what though Conca is right on his hammer in my books.
Jeez, not so sure about that
Conca still needs to work on some bad disposal issues, sells teammates into trouble a bit too often
Plenty to work with, but no where near Martin's level

Yeah I know he is a fair bit off Dusty but I just like what I see for someone that has played only 5 games, got a feeling on this one.

I reckon I know what you are talking about CUB.

Apart from Dusty's don't argue, what did Martin have that Conc's doesn't have after 5 games.

Agree he sells some players into trouble at times and he does stuff up the odd disposal but I think he's still adjusting to the pace of the game. (Frankly I've seen a few doozies from Martin this year too.)

He's got a cool head and can think his way out of traffic the way the really good players can, and when he gets his disposal right he's creative and very accurate. Hate comparing players with other players so I won't, but I think we're going to be happy with Reece.

Be interesting to look at Concs 5 games into next season, with 20 odd games more experience and another pre season under his belt.

i would say
cotchin = voss
conca = simon black
martin a cross b/w voss and brown
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on April 26, 2011, 09:17:14 PM
Someone please ask Tigermonk does is he still emotional distraught over drafting Martin ahead of John Butcher. (Who still hasn't debuted yet, surely after a loss to GC he has to get a game...)

Dustin Martin is a gun .
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 26, 2011, 09:24:32 PM
Eff off Garry. After sinking the boots in for the past 10 years, you can find yourself a non-Richmond hero.

He's ours, and you, along with all the other Richmond bashers can stick it. Now that you need us, we don't need you.

Amen to that.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 26, 2011, 09:27:06 PM
Snip = AGAIN  :banghead :banghead

Enough with the personal sniping and insults

Keep it off the forum
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Siberian on April 26, 2011, 09:31:54 PM

Martin = voss
conca = luke power





I' say Dusty has more Lethal Leigh about him than anyone else at the lions at that time.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 26, 2011, 11:29:13 PM
Eff off Garry. After sinking the boots in for the past 10 years, you can find yourself a non-Richmond hero.

He's ours, and you, along with all the other Richmond bashers can stick it. Now that you need us, we don't need you.

Exactly. And who the stuff rates anything Garry stuffing Lyon has to say these days? Spends more time in drag than watching football.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 27, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
Sam Wright in the background enjoying some of Dusty's work  ;D

(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/113133989.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892140FEB0FF7845C57DB12780E159E11702663B0230E7BDD0AFDDFF2D4DAFE0CCDD)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 27, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
Anyone heard the one about Dusty's neck tatts?

Apparently they say "If you can read this, I just put my arm through your chest"
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 27, 2011, 04:02:29 PM
Go shovel some your nose Lyon.
effing dog rat!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2011, 04:16:37 PM
After Martin's game on Sunday i've read a few times, 'Martin looks a superstar, about time Richmond got one right....'  :o

Jack at #13 and Cotch at #2 go alright as well.



Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: blaisee on April 27, 2011, 04:53:28 PM
Dustin Martin is a very impressive young footballer.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2011, 06:47:44 PM
Caro, Healy and Russell are on 3aw now trying to think of former players that Dusty reminds them off. Caro mentioned Riccuito while a couple of callers said Leigh Matthews and Darren Millane.

Healy thought he was unique - a raw individual with polish; everyone knows he'll go the fend off but no one can stop it.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 27, 2011, 08:10:38 PM
Go shovel some more gak into your nose Lyon.
effing dog rat!

Darn right! Effing powder carver....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 27, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
I'm glad they couldn't think of a comparison. Let Dusty make his own name and hopefully the media will be comparing others to him in time :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 28, 2011, 12:32:17 AM
Tell us something we don't know Lyon.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 28, 2011, 01:19:17 AM
Caro, Healy and Russell are on 3aw now trying to think of former players that Dusty reminds them off. Caro mentioned Riccuito while a couple of callers said Leigh Matthews and Darren Millane.

Healy thought he was unique - a raw individual with polish; everyone knows he'll go the fend off but no one can stop it.

not dissimilar to riccuito. 

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on April 28, 2011, 03:13:32 AM
Lets just hope that Dustin can keep his head with all this adulation and the expectation that this brings with it, this will be his biggest mental test to date. Club really needs to support him and help him through this period the same way they are handling Jack through it now.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2011, 03:49:06 AM
The media are on the Dusty bandwagon big time....


Richmond cub Dustin Martin's all-out attack on elite status

    Mark Stevens
    From: Herald Sun
    April 28, 2011


RISING Richmond star Dustin Martin is challenging Hawthorn's Lance Franklin as the most devastating player in the AFL.

The statement is not opinion, but based on statistics from the first five weeks of the season.

Martin has had an involvement in 34.7 per cent of the Tigers' scores, behind only Franklin's 35.2 per cent strike-rate at Hawthorn.

Gary Ablett is third on the list with a 33.9 per cent contribution at the Gold Coast Suns, highlighting Martin's surge into the league's stratosphere.

Score involvement stats are the strongest indicator of a player's value.

And 19-year-old Martin's touches are turning to scoreboard gold.

He had a hand in 14 of Richmond's 27 scores in Sunday's nine-point victory against North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium.

Former Sydney coach Paul Roos, who witnessed Martin's heroics against North, said last night: "For a second-year player, it was a bloody good effort".

"He's outstanding. He was the most influential player on the ground, no doubt," Roos said.

"He kicked goals and he created them. He kept Richmond in the game and then they were able to get a run on."

Former Melbourne champion Garry Lyon lavished Martin with praise, likening him to Geelong superstar Joel Selwood.

"He's a big boy. A big strong body. He's got everything you want in a footy player. He's got a warrior-type competitive mentality," Lyon told Triple M.

"He does all that sort of stuff, then chuck the poise and classy finishing on top of it.

"He is going to get to Selwood category. I can't give him too much greater praise."

Martin, the No.3 pick in the 2009 draft behind Melbourne pair Tom Scully and Jack Trengove, has kicked nine goals from five matches as a midfielder pushing forward.

Martin has been involved in 41 of 118 Richmond scoring shots this year - eight more than any other Tiger.

Champion Data senior analyst Glenn Luff described the definition of a "score involvement": "It is the number of times a player has a disposal, hitout or knock-on in an unbroken chain that results in a score."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-cub-dustin-martins-all-out-attack-on-elite-status/story-e6frf9jf-1226045887508
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: RollsRoyce on April 28, 2011, 08:19:55 AM
Yet despite 33 touches, 4 goals, all this praise from the media and being touted by some as the single most influential player right across the competition last weekend, he inexplicably didn't win a Rising Star nomination. Surely he's still eligible? Anti-Richmond bias??
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on April 28, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
Too many games to get a Rising Star nomination. Had to have played less than 10 games last season.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 28, 2011, 08:48:45 AM
the only thing i care about dustin martin winning is a couple of premiership medallions - as long as it is in tiger colors
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 28, 2011, 09:53:39 AM
the only thing i care about dustin martin winning is a couple of premiership medallions - as long as it is in tiger colors

Spot on Al.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 28, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
the only thing i care about dustin martin winning is a couple of premiership medallions - as long as it is in tiger colors

Dead right, plus a brownlow  :o
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 28, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
he inexplicably didn't win a Rising Star nomination. Surely he's still eligible? Anti-Richmond bias??

Anti Richmond bias  :lol :lol you've got to be joking

Can't get a nomination in 2011 because he is no longer eligible  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2011, 01:34:58 PM
Yep once you've played more than 10 AFL games prior to a season you become ineligible for the Rising Star. Still he would won it last year if it wasn't for a soft technical report  :scream.

The guy from Champion Data is on SEN now and said Martin isn't far off Judd in terms of the various stats they look at. So they are calling Dusty elite at 19. 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2011, 03:35:49 PM
The Club is auctioning Martin's jumper he wore in round 5

https://secure.auctiondesq.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=item&auctionid=24696&orgid=1751

Current bid is $720
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 30, 2011, 03:55:45 AM
A champion in the making
Jake Niall
April 30, 2011


WHEN 19-year-old Dustin Martin extended his arm and shoved North's robust defender Michael Firrito backwards in a textbook execution of the ''don't argue'' last Sunday, former Richmond coach Danny Frawley was struck by the similarity between Martin and another powerful and highly accomplished midfielder from the recent past.

The player that came to Frawley's mind wasn't any famed Tiger of old or anyone he coached at Richmond.

It was a player whose career began in the early '90s, when Frawley was captain of the Saints, and which spanned more than 300 games; it was Mark Ricciuto.

Like a teenage Ricciuto, Martin is remarkably strong and physically powerful for a player of his youthful vintage. 'Roo' was an expert at breaking tackles with a stiff arm, and was so capable of kicking goals from the midfield that he finished his career in the goal square and led the Crows' goal-kicking.

The parallel that Frawley and others see between Martin and the young version of Ricciuto is based on a mix of attributes - strong bodies, speed, overhead marking prowess - and in Martin's unusual physical presence and ability to overpower more seasoned opponents, as the Adelaide champ did.

''He's got the power build from an early age, too,'' said Frawley of Martin.

''They play tall by taking the contested mark, and they're good on the ground.''

Martin, 187 centimetres, has the strength/speed combination of Ricciuto, covering 20 metres in under three seconds.

Ricciuto's career included a premiership (1998), Brownlow Medal (2003) and, most impressively, eight All-Australian jumpers. Martin shares Roo's goal sense, having booted nine goals in five games while averaging 25 touches.

Should he maintain the rage, the precocious Tiger cub may go close to matching the 19-year-old Ricciuto's feat of making All-Australian in his second season (Martin turns 20 in June), although the club sees him as far from fully formed, with much to prove and improve.

Both Chris Judd and Joel Selwood - universally regarded as the best performed teens of the past decade - had to wait until their third season before winning selection in the AFL's team of the year. Martin, at this stage, is arguably in the same weight-for-age company as that pair, having finished fourth in Richmond's best and fairest in his first season.

Frawley observed that Martin and Ricciuto, country lads (Martin from Castlemaine, Roo from Waikerie, South Australia) who didn't resile from physical confrontation, were both ''pretty earthy''. The ex-coach added that the Tiger hordes had a particular fondness for strongmen. ''They love tough players''.

Few Richmond players would match or better the Tiger wunderkind for physical presence, which says something both about the age of the Richmond list (very young) and Martin's rare maturity.

''Jack Riewoldt's got a physical presence the way he goes after the ball,'' said Frawley. ''Martin has, he's so strong over the ball.''

Ricciuto would not draw comparisons between himself and Martin, but he liked what he'd seen of the midfielder. ''He's obviously not scared either,'' said the Adelaide great.

''He's obviously not intimidated by anyone.''

The Roo was especially impressed by Martin's prowess at winning the contested ball in close. ''He'll be a midfielder who can go forward, but he'll be majority in the midfield.

''He's an in-and-under, hard in-and-under player and that's where he does his best work, inside, and he can obviously kick goals as well. They're the best type of midfielder you can have, the most important type of midfielder is a goalkicking midfielder, a hard goalkicking midfielder. There's no more important things at the moment than winning contested balls at stoppages and kicking goals in the midfielder and he does both of them.''

Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch said this week of Martin's contested abilities: ''You talk about knowing how to manoeuvre your body in contested sorts of situation, he just knows that better than anyone. And it doesn't seem to matter about the size of the opposition either, he just knows how to do it well.''

While the Tigers will be wary of the hype that may surround Martin as a boy wonder at a club that's had scant success, they aren't greatly concerned about Martin's head swelling, despite the clip he received in pre-season from coach Damien Hardwick for showing up unfit.

''I don't think Dustin would get carried away with much,'' Leppitsch said, describing Martin as ''a very quiet character'' who eschewed the media. ''He just plays true football.''

And, like the Roo, he plays it hard.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-champion-in-the-making-20110429-1e0sy.html#ixzz1Kw5dPP1c
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 01, 2011, 04:23:20 AM
We know Dusty is a freak but good on him on remaining level headed and to go out and pull another great game out of the bag. With all the press all week leading into the game telling him how brilliant he was it could have so easily gone to his head like many a footballer before him and he could have had a shocker. His first quarter especially saved our bacon early on so we were only a goal down at 1/4 time despite playing crap as a team.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 01, 2011, 10:12:53 AM
Reckon his bullocking style may catch the umpys eye. What odds the brownlow?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 01, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
Some Good Dusty Jokes
------------------------------


DMartin once visited "The Virgin Islands"
They are now knows as "The Islands"

DMartin won a game of Connect 4 with only 3 moves.

DMartin doesn't get hard ball gets.
Every ball he gets is easy.

DMartin took a pee on the side of a semi trailer.
It turned into Optimus Prime.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get away from DMartin's don't argue

DMartin doesn't eat breakfast.
He eats concrete

DMartin doesn't not have a backspace on his keyboard.
He never makes mistakes.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 01, 2011, 02:06:29 PM
Ah the old Chuck Norris jokes!  :lol

Each night before bed, the boogeyman checks his cupboard for Dustin Martin.

Dusty will never have a heart attack, his heart isn't stupid enough to attack him.

Superman wears Dustin Martin pyjamas to bed.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 01, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
They also trotted out a few 'Chuck-isms' about Dusty on Game Day when Cotch was on.  Also showed some footage of Jack, Newy and Whitey answering questions about Cotch - quite funny, especially the bits about Cotch's dog being called "Wocca" after the apparent mutual love between Cotch and Wayne Campbell.  All tongue in cheek but I laughed   :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 01, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
The two I liked the most so far are

When Dustin Martin makes coffee he grinds the beans with his teeth and boils the water with his fury

Giraffes were created when Dustin Martin uppercut a horse
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 01, 2011, 03:13:16 PM
All this stuff is getting out of hand IMHO. Lets let the kid play footy and forget the rest of the rubbish.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 01, 2011, 03:16:25 PM
All this stuff is getting out of hand IMHO. Lets let the kid play footy and forget the rest of the rubbish.
Oh come on, it's just a bit of fun
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 01, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
When Dustin Martin Pokes you on facebook, You die !
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 01, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Just a bit of a joke Ramps lol.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 02, 2011, 04:28:15 AM
Dustin Martin ranks second in the competition with 115 kicks. He has won more disposals in each game he has played this season, winning 18 in round one followed by totals of 21, 25, 28, 33 and finally 35 in round six.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/stats-standout-20110502-1e3i1.html#ixzz1L7uvtpkv
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: blaisee on May 02, 2011, 09:35:45 AM
Martin is the best footballer to come to punt road in the last 30 years.

Lets hope he has a good run with injury as the sky is the limit for the young man.

Absolute freak
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on May 02, 2011, 01:43:54 PM
When Dustin Martin Pokes you on facebook, You die !

Must have poked Osama Bin Laden.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 02, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
I am glad we did not pick John Butcher instead of our Dustin.  ;D

Gun
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 02, 2011, 02:48:19 PM
John who???
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 02, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
* Obama asks Dustin Martin for the green light to kill osama bin Ladin.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: peggles on May 02, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
* Obama asks Dustin Martin for the green light to kill osama bin Ladin.

gold
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 1965 on May 02, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
* Obama asks Dustin Martin for the green light to kill osama bin Ladin.

gold

It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 02, 2011, 09:03:45 PM
It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(

 :-\

I wouldn't have though so when said individual is responsible killing thousands of innocent people and then the same said individual boasted/gloated about it when it happened

What goes around has finally come around
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 02, 2011, 09:09:26 PM
It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(

 :-\

I wouldn't have though so when said individual is responsible killing thousands of innocent people and then the same said individual boasted/gloated about it when it happened

What goes around has finally come around

He deserved what he got but we do ourselves no favours as humanity by making public displays of joy.  Places us at the same level frankly.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 02, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(

 :-\

I wouldn't have though so when said individual is responsible killing thousands of innocent people and then the same said individual boasted/gloated about it when it happened

What goes around has finally come around

He deserved what he got but we do ourselves no favours as humanity by making public displays of joy.  Places us at the same level frankly.

I agree with you there smokey, don't like seeing or condone the carry on, on the streets of the US or other places but I certainly can understand why they are doing it.

Having been to Ground Zero and the 9/11 memorial (one of the most humbling experiences of my life to be honest)believe me I certainly understand it
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 02, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(

 :-\

I wouldn't have though so when said individual is responsible killing thousands of innocent people and then the same said individual boasted/gloated about it when it happened

What goes around has finally come around

He deserved what he got but we do ourselves no favours as humanity by making public displays of joy.  Places us at the same level frankly.

I agree with you there smokey, don't like seeing or condone the carry on, on the streets of the US or other places but I certainly can understand why they are doing it.

Having been to Ground Zero and the 9/11 memorial (one of the most humbling experiences of my life to be honest)believe me I certainly understand it

For sure WP.  I understand it, I've been to a war zone and had to pick up the detritus (literally), I have a son about to leave for one and something I've learned in all that is there is nothing to cheer about.  It's not a football game, there are no winners.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 02, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
* Obama asks Dustin Martin for the green light to kill osama bin Ladin.

gold

It's a sad world where we applaud the killing of an individual.

 :(

Im not so sure, that all depends who the individual is.......the worlds largest terrorist org have lost their inspiration, for the minute
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 02, 2011, 09:48:08 PM
Don't know what Bin Laden has to do with RFC????

I just think Dusty is great though. :thumbsup

Looked real shiny at the Royal Wedding on Friday too. :gotigers

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 02, 2011, 09:51:35 PM
I've been to a war zone and had to pick up the detritus (literally), I have a son about to leave for one and something I've learned in all that is there is nothing to cheer about.  It's not a football game, there are no winners.

All the best to your son smokey he deserves our repsect & admiration for doing the toughest job on earth
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 02, 2011, 10:54:48 PM
I am glad we did not pick John Butcher instead of our Dustin.  ;D

Gun


who are you today Dustin Martins father  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 02, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
I am glad we did not pick John Butcher instead of our Dustin.  ;D

Gun


who are you today Dustin Martins father  ;D

Yep, glad my boy can play, your boy can't ;).. and is stuck in the SANFL lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 03, 2011, 10:42:09 AM
Gun

Gun doesn't seem a big enough word pope.

He's a freakin' tank.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 03, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
I am glad we did not pick John Butcher instead of our Dustin.  ;D

Gun


who are you today Dustin Martins father  ;D

Yep, glad my boy can play, your boy can't ;).. and is stuck in the SANFL lol

well you assume other peoples identity to boost your ego onto others on this forum so it dont surprise me one bit

Butcher will get his chance when it comes, not that l really care cause  ;D he dont play for Richmond,  but his form is ok from what l'm told
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 03, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
I am glad we did not pick John Butcher instead of our Dustin.  ;D

Gun


who are you today Dustin Martins father  ;D

Yep, glad my boy can play, your boy can't ;).. and is stuck in the SANFL lol

well you assume other peoples identity to boost your ego onto others on this forum so it dont surprise me one bit

Butcher will get his chance when it comes, not that l really care cause  ;D he dont play for Richmond,  but his form is ok from what l'm told


The circus of Tigermonk lives on. :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday

Just waiting for you to admit your wrong. After slagging off the club for drafting Martin ahead of Butcher, an honorable bloke would admit he's been a muppet and accept he is wrong.

BTW glad we kept Jack Riewoldt?  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

FYI "It doesn't surprise me one but" not "It don't surprise me one bit".
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 03, 2011, 04:58:18 PM

The circus of Tigermonk lives on. :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday

Just waiting for you to admit your wrong. After slagging off the club for drafting Martin ahead of Butcher, an honorable bloke would admit he's been a muppet and accept he is wrong.

BTW glad we kept Jack Riewoldt?  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

FYI "It doesn't surprise me one but" not "It don't surprise me one bit".


Popelord there is something majorly wrong with your mentality, l know your young but grow a brain.
you need to rethink l said we needed a forward not another midfielder. Your the one who put the names in. You never mentioned anything about Martin prior to the media releasing his name as protential top draft pick so please dont keep raving on about him as if your some effing bigtime football person cause you already been exposed on this Forum & others for being a LIAR  ;D Comparing 2 different types of players shows just how unstable you are.
You live fulltime on the forum cause unfortunately for you this is all you got LMAO what a life no future. Lucky you dont have kids  ;D the mental stress you put them through. Give it up you gobbler
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 03, 2011, 05:21:37 PM
Enough with the personal insults ppl and get back to the topic!  ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Danog on May 03, 2011, 07:25:45 PM

The circus of Tigermonk lives on. :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday

Just waiting for you to admit your wrong. After slagging off the club for drafting Martin ahead of Butcher, an honorable bloke would admit he's been a muppet and accept he is wrong.

BTW glad we kept Jack Riewoldt?  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

FYI "It doesn't surprise me one but" not "It don't surprise me one bit".


Popelord there is something majorly wrong with your mentality, l know your young but grow a brain.
you need to rethink l said we needed a forward not another midfielder. Your the one who put the names in. You never mentioned anything about Martin prior to the media releasing his name as protential top draft pick so please dont keep raving on about him as if your some effing bigtime football person cause you already been exposed on this Forum & others for being a LIAR  ;D Comparing 2 different types of players shows just how unstable you are.
You live fulltime on the forum cause unfortunately for you this is all you got LMAO what a life no future. Lucky you dont have kids  ;D the mental stress you put them through. Give it up you gobbler

To say that and follow it with tripe is schoolyard behaviour at best.  ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 03, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Im not saying anything about anyone but what is a gobbler?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 03, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Hilarious
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 03, 2011, 08:08:24 PM
Im not saying anything about anyone but what is a gobbler?

A Turkey......
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 03, 2011, 09:36:14 PM
Im not saying anything about anyone but what is a gobbler?

isnt it short for that place, Gobblers Knob?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 03, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
The things you learn on google these days is amazing  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 03, 2011, 11:46:54 PM
Dustin Martin labelled best second-year AFL player: Richmond coach Damien Hardwick

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    May 03, 2011


RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has labelled Dustin Martin the best second-year player he has seen.

Martin has taken the competition by storm, his latest dominant performance a 35-possession game against the Brisbane Lions.

Hardwick has been at four clubs - Essendon, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn and Richmond - since being recruited in 1994, but cannot find an equal to the man from Castlemaine.

"(With) Dustin Martin, it's hard to know where to start," he said.

"I don't think I have seen a more significant impact for a second-year player in my time in AFL.

"He has had a terrific season and built on his performance last year, but the great thing we have seen this year, which he didn't have last year, was the ability to push forward.

"We can probably thank the sub rule for that one, so thanks Adrian Anderson and Andrew (Demetriou)."

In Hardwick's time he has played with or coached stars such as Lance Franklin, Cyril Rioli, James Hird, Matthew Lloyd, Gavin Wanganeen and Shaun Burgoyne.

He says Martin's transition into a more complete player has come from going to school on his opponents.

The 19-year-old has been going to games to study the running patterns of elite midfielders.

"His ability to win one-on-one contests is as good as I have seen. We feel he has an enormous future, and hopefully he can continue on in his good form," Hardwick said.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/dustin-martin-labelled-best-second-year-afl-player-richmond-coach-damien-hardwick/story-e6frepf6-1226049403490
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 04, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
Dustin Martin labelled best second-year AFL player: Richmond coach Damien Hardwick

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    May 03, 2011


He says Martin's transition into a more complete player has come from going to school on his opponents.

The 19-year-old has been going to games to study the running patterns of elite midfielders.


This is the interesting element for me from the article. I wonder if all our young midfielders are following a similar education. I also wonder if Dusty is doing this more to improve his defence against his immediate opponents, his overall defensive game or how to best defeat the oppositions defence? Learning where to run and get the ball from models such as Judd, Sawn and Ablett can't be a bad thing.

His game reminds me somewhat of the three players I mentioned - all strong through the hips, hard to stop.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 04, 2011, 02:00:51 PM
Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642

Probably an angry Demons fan sick of hearing about their draft mistakes starting a rumour.  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 04, 2011, 04:18:18 PM
Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642

I hope it just someone trying to stir the pot  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 04, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Would have been on the news whether on radio or television especially in the form he is in. I have no doubt its just another baseless rumour from BF.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 04, 2011, 07:46:47 PM
Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642

Mr OE you should know better it's BF after all  :rollin

Besides Dusty has tweeted he's playing Table tennis against Jack R :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 04, 2011, 10:47:19 PM

The circus of Tigermonk lives on. :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday

Just waiting for you to admit your wrong. After slagging off the club for drafting Martin ahead of Butcher, an honorable bloke would admit he's been a muppet and accept he is wrong.

BTW glad we kept Jack Riewoldt?  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

FYI "It doesn't surprise me one but" not "It don't surprise me one bit".


Popelord there is something majorly wrong with your mentality, l know your young but grow a brain.
you need to rethink l said we needed a forward not another midfielder. Your the one who put the names in. You never mentioned anything about Martin prior to the media releasing his name as protential top draft pick so please dont keep raving on about him as if your some effing bigtime football person cause you already been exposed on this Forum & others for being a LIAR  ;D Comparing 2 different types of players shows just how unstable you are.
You live fulltime on the forum cause unfortunately for you this is all you got LMAO what a life no future. Lucky you dont have kids  ;D the mental stress you put them through. Give it up you gobbler

Baha, another arguement won, thanks TM.

You're just wrong.. again. Surely pack it in lol.

*Plays the worlds smallest Violin.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2011, 10:51:32 PM
Back to the topic ppl  ::)

Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642

Mr OE you should know better it's BF after all  :rollin

Besides Dusty has tweeted he's playing Table tennis against Jack R :thumbsup
Just putting it out there for discussion and ridicule  ;D

Anyway Jack Riewoldt tweeted this tonight:

"@DustinMartin4 had a broken ankle this morning but it's fixed now cause he is @DustinMartin4!! #dustinmartinfacts #hesactuallyok"

 :lol  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 04, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
Back to the topic ppl  ::)

Most likely garbage as it hasn't be reported in the media anywhere but BF claiming Dusty may have hurt his ankle....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=441fc4f8e5baa43eedb13f9329315683&t=821642

Mr OE you should know better it's BF after all  :rollin

Besides Dusty has tweeted he's playing Table tennis against Jack R :thumbsup
Just putting it out there for discussion and ridicule  ;D

Anyway Jack Riewoldt tweeted this tonight:

"@DustinMartin4 had a broken ankle this morning but it's fixed now cause he is @DustinMartin4!! #dustinmartinfacts #hesactuallyok"

 :lol  :thumbsup

Dustin Martin can't break his ankle cause he had metal injected into his bones to replace Wolverine.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 04, 2011, 11:34:48 PM
Another little know fact. in 2010 Dustin Martin participated in the running of the bulls. He walked.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 05, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
Who is our youngest B&F at the club to date? Will Dusty be the one??
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 05, 2011, 10:00:56 AM
Another little know fact. in 2010 Dustin Martin participated in the running of the bulls. He walked.
And "don't argued" a bull
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 05, 2011, 10:13:18 AM
He rightened the Tower of Pisa with a classic don't argue
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2011, 11:39:53 AM
Martin’s rise no surprise to former mentors
Luke West
Bendigo Advertiser
05 May, 2011



THE hottest name in the AFL at the moment is Richmond teenager Dustin Martin.

And neither of the Tiger star’s previous two coaches are surprised at the impact the 19-year-old has been able to make in the AFL less than 30 games into his career.

Martin – whose previous two clubs were Castlemaine and the Bendigo Pioneers – has been lauded by the Melbourne media and commentators in the past two weeks for his phenomenal start to his second season with the Tigers.

The powerfully built midfielder has recently drawn comparisons with a young Mark Ricciuto, who won a Brownlow Medal, premiership and selection in eight All-Australian teams during his 312 games with the Adelaide Crows.

Martin has played only 27 AFL games, but so explosive has he been this year he is already being spoken about as a Brownlow Medal fancy and All-Australian prospect this season.

He has been prominent in five of the Tigers’ six games so far this year – 21 possessions and three goals against St Kilda in round two; 25 touches and five tackles against Hawthorn in round three; 28 disposals and two goals against Collingwood in round four; 33 touches and four goals against North Melbourne in round five; and 35 possessions and one goal against Brisbane last Saturday night.

Yet, it was only three years ago in 2008 that Martin was a 16-year-old playing in the Bendigo Football League with Castlemaine.

The Magpies coach in 2008 when Martin made his senior debut in round one at Camp Reserve against Gisborne was Jamie Elliott, who believes Martin was ready to play AFL by the age of 17.

Right from that first game against Gisborne, it was clear Martin was destined for greater things as his penetrating kicking, ability to win the contested ball, speed and clean disposal was an obvious standout in the 69-point loss for the Magpies.

“I thought as a 17-year-old he could have played league footy,” said Elliott, who himself played 58 AFL games at Fitzroy, Richmond and St Kilda during the ’90s.

“I’m not surprised at all at what he has already been able to come in and do at Richmond.

“He was always going to be a good player, it was just a matter of whether he had his head screwed on right, which he has and he has obviously learned a fair bit since he got down there.

“This year the substitute rule has probably helped him in that he can go forward and be a power forward.

“Even when he was a 16-year-old with us, we use to play him in the centre and change him at full-forward, so it’s great he is getting that opportunity to play forward again.”

While Martin – who was a runaway winner of the BFL’s Rising Star Award in 2008 – played predominantly as a midfielder with Castlemaine, he possessed the goalkicking ability that has become an added string to his bow this year, as North Melbourne found out in round five with his four majors.

Martin won the Magpies’ goalkicking in 2008 with 22, which included kicking five of Castlemaine’s 10 goals playing a mix of centre and full-forward in a 79-point loss to Golden Square in round 16.

“He had one of the best work ethics when he was with us. I used to pick him up from Bendigo to go to training, and we would have a kick before training, he’d then do all the training, and then stay out afterwards and have another kick of the footy,’’ Elliott said.

“His work-ethic was always good with us. I spoke to him the other week and he hasn’t changed as a person, that’s for sure.”

Bendigo Pioneers coach Mark Ellis agrees that despite now being regarded as one of the AFL’s hottest prospects, Martin hasn’t forgotten where he has come from.

After playing four games with the Pioneers late in the 2008 season, Martin – who first played as a junior with Campbells Creek in the under-10s – spent 2009 with the Pioneers in the TAC Cup where his reputation continued to prosper as the season wore on.

“Even now you can still ring him and talk to him, and he always asks how we’re going and who is playing well,’’ Ellis said.

“Last year he was more than willing to come up to one of our camps where we had some under-16 kids in... he’s just that sort of person who hasn’t forgotten where he has come from.

“He hasn’t changed at all. He’s very level-headed and appreciative of his time in Bendigo.”

Martin’s 2009 season with the Bendigo Pioneers included selection for Victoria Country in the mid-year under-18 national championships, with his stellar carnival capped by being picked in the centre in the All-Australian team.

“He was doing things in the TAC Cup in 2009 that were going to stand him in good stead to be able to play AFL,” Ellis said.

“The thing that convinced us of how far he could go was the way he played in the nationals. Every time he had to step up a level, he did it easily and looked comfortable.

“It was just the nature of the way he played. He didn’t rely on anyone to get the ball for him, he just went and got it himself.

“His kicking skills and strength was always going to be his big asset. He was a mini Mark Ricciuto in the TAC Cup.

“He never got ahead of himself or thought he was better than anyone else, he was very good for the club, and it’s no surprise he’s now playing the type of footy he is.”

Martin juggled his commitments at the Pioneers in 2009 with his job at Luke Arnott Electrical, but in late November he went from labourer to full-time footballer after he was selected by Richmond with pick No.3 at the national draft.

“He was a good worker with us, but he has shown he made the right choice in going down the footy path. We’re very proud of him,” Luke Arnott said.

(http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/large/1227926.jpg)
Dustin Martin as a 16-year-old playing for Castlemaine.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/martins-rise-no-surprise-to-former-mentors/2153355.aspx?storypage=0
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 05, 2011, 12:45:50 PM
I don't want a be a kill-joy here but all the external hype Dusty is getting lately is making me nervious. Any hype we've had recently such as the when Cuz arrived has blown up in our faces. I pray this time it doesn't because I love to watch this kid play!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on May 05, 2011, 12:50:02 PM
Hype comes with the territory. If we're going to show good signs then the media is going to pump us and our players up. Only a problem if it's a false dawn. Doesn't feel like a false dawn this time. Here's hoping.  :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 05, 2011, 01:02:48 PM
Dustin Martin is so hardcore, when I'm unexpectedly interrupted watching highlights of him on the net, I quickly switch over to p*rn to avoid embarrassment.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on May 05, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Chuck Norris' daughter recently lost her virginity.... Dustin Martin got it back !
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 05, 2011, 01:39:48 PM
 :lol thats stuffed
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on May 05, 2011, 07:08:07 PM
(http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/large/1227926.jpg)
Dustin Martin as a 16-year-old playing for Castlemaine.


Geez that's nasty seeing Dusty in Collingwood colors. Kid cracks me up tho. He's just always got that ' don't argue ' look on his melon  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mat073 on May 05, 2011, 11:55:15 PM
I don't want a be a kill-joy here but all the external hype Dusty is getting lately is making me nervious. Any hype we've had recently such as the when Cuz arrived has blown up in our faces. I pray this time it doesn't because I love to watch this kid play!!

Apples and oranges there Stripes.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Infamy on May 08, 2011, 04:30:28 PM
Dusty is on the Bigpond Sports Weekend show from the AFL website
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/352482/bigpond-sports-weekend/ (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/352482/bigpond-sports-weekend/)

He doesn't say anything too much outside his media training but he speaks fairly well
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 08, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
Edit: Sorry Infamy didn't see you had posted the Bigpond video already  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on May 08, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
(http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/large/1227926.jpg)
Dustin Martin as a 16-year-old playing for Castlemaine.


Geez that's nasty seeing Dusty in Collingwood colors. Kid cracks me up tho. He's just always got that ' don't argue ' look on his melon  :thumbsup

Makes me want to vomit looking at him in collingwood colours like that :chuck :chuck :chuck
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on May 09, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Dusty is on the Bigpond Sports Weekend show from the AFL website
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/352482/bigpond-sports-weekend/ (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/352482/bigpond-sports-weekend/)

He doesn't say anything too much outside his media training but he speaks fairly well

" Yeh in the last qtr we just took 'em apart " - Dusty...  hahaa ! He's just a country boy kickin a.rse !
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2011, 07:19:27 PM
Martin models game on Magpies Swan

By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
13 May 2011 03:54PM EST


BUDDING Richmond star Dustin Martin has taken to modelling his game on Collingwood sensation Dane Swan.

Former Tigers on-ball ace Wayne Campbell has revealed that Martin has gone to Magpies games just to analyse how Swan wins his possessions as well as what the champion play-maker does when not running on the ball.

Campbell played 297 Tigers games and is now midfield coach of an on-ball battery of Martin, another young gun Trent Cotchin and established followers Nathan Foley, Brett Deledio and Daniel Jackson.

Ahead of Richmond’s crucial clash with a stumbling Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium on Sunday, Campbell disclosed that Martin had carefully monitored Swan to avoid heavy tagging as well as reading the play when not in possession.

Martin is likely to be closely watched by Dogs minder Liam Picken.

Martin, 19 and into his second AFL season, had been in near All-Australian selection form in the opening six weeks of the 2011 season before he was heavily tagged in last week’s stirring eight-goal win over Fremantle at the MCG.

Martin was held to just 11 possessions for the day by close-checking Dockers hard nut Matthew de Boer.

The classy young Tiger did not touch the ball at all in the first quarter.

But while Martin was held to virtually no impact in the match, the Tigers midfield went on a rampage after half-time and especially late in the match when they slammed on nine of the last 10 goals to win by 49 points.

Campbell confirmed that Martin has closely studied Swan, who was voted the AFL’s  Most Valuable Player last year and is being roundly touted to win this season’s coveted Brownlow Medal.

“He watches all the elite players in the competition and Dane has been that for the last two or three years,” Campbell said.

“He watches him and he watches a lot of the good midfielders.

“He’s a young guy that wants to learn and wants to get better and that’s a terrific attribute to have and he’s getting some of the rewards for it out on the field.”

Campbell anticipates Martin to emerge a more astute player from his first serious tagging lesson.

“He got tagged for the first time, a real tag last week,” Campbell said.

“He got tagged little bits and pieces last year, but that was the first real one with de Boer running with him and he will have learnt a lot about that.

“I suppose that is the key thing to having multiple players running through your midfield with Cotchin and Foley and these sort of guys and Jacko (Jackson) as well, that they can only tag one of them.

“Hopefully, that allows that player to work on what he is doing and allows the other guys to get some footy.”

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/05/13/martin-models-game-on-magpies-swan/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 14, 2011, 06:05:17 AM
No idea what that has to do with Dusty but I like it. ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 14, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
Butcher playing now in foxtel cup for port 2s
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 14, 2011, 06:09:32 PM
Butcher playing now in foxtel cup for port 2s

poo house kick of the footy.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 14, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
DUSTIN MARTIN does not flush the toilet
he scares the poo out of it
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on May 14, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Martin models game on Magpies Swan

By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
13 May 2011 03:54PM EST
n/

I heard that interview and Cambo did say that him and Dusty have gone to games together and studied Swan. Cambo then said...when I can get him to pay attention for more than 5 minutes  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 14, 2011, 10:56:53 PM
No idea what that has to do with Dusty but I like it. ;D
Cambo in his interview was saying Dusty still needed to learn how to beat a tag after last week being held to 11 possies. Swan may get 36 possies when not tagged yet he still gets 30 when tagged so it becomes pointless to tag him and as coach you're better off putting a heavy tag on someone else who you can completely shutdown. The coaching staff believes in time Dusty can become that type of player where the opposition coaches tagging him becomes pointless. So we've got Dusty watching what Swan does and where he runs and stands at stoppages and around the ground.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 15, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
I wonder how Swan does it? Is it will assistance with teammates ie Ablett, runs the taggers ragged ie Cousins or some other strtaegy. Hope Dusty does conentrate and pick up some extra strategies. I jope he learns how to break a tag better than Lids did.  :-X If he is tagged today I wouldn't expect manner more possessions than last week.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on June 18, 2011, 09:49:49 PM
Best first 2years in the AFL since Judd
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on June 18, 2011, 09:51:49 PM
Guys, I think we might be witnessing something special here.

I dont say this lightly, but with his talent, I actually think he could be one of the best players to ever play the game.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 18, 2011, 09:55:58 PM
Yep goalkicking mids are worth their weight in gold. 21 goals in 12 games this year from memory.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: torch on June 18, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
Worth $1 million! If only the other players had confidence like him!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on June 18, 2011, 10:05:09 PM
He has taken to AFL footy as if he was still playing for Castlemaine as a 16 year old kid.

If they keep his head right the possibilities are amazing.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: FNM on June 18, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
 Gun!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 18, 2011, 10:07:15 PM
Simply amazing.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 18, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Gun!


 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 18, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This kid is making a mockery of the game.

Mike Sheahan can pencil him in his top 25 crap next year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 18, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Where's Johnny Butcher ???

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
 :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :rollin :rollin :rollin
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 18, 2011, 11:31:32 PM
His Effectivity percentage is through the roof.
That's what makes him so good.

He runs opposite lines and as a result finds the space.

The way he was booming them on the run reminded me of Juniors at Springy,FFS.

He's the greatest(will be) Tiger since i don't know.

I just love the kid.!!!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on June 18, 2011, 11:36:25 PM
He reminds me of Judd when he just breaks the packs.

and kicks goals too.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 01:02:58 AM
Where's Johnny Butcher ???

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
 :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :rollin :rollin :rollin
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

as l said Popelord, to be a good liar you must have a good memory,
you got caught out being a liar so let see how you explain this post you made prior to the draft  ;D
l will bring up later when you 1st ever mentioned Martin  ;D see how stupid you make yourself look  :birthday  ;D

read below & take note of the # & date of your post prior to the draft  :santa

1437

 Football / Richmond Rant / Re: Richo given a month to decide his future

 on: September 02, 2009, 11:34:40 AM




A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.

We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.

With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.

If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.

He needs to stay for 1 more year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 19, 2011, 01:21:43 AM
Moving right along  ::).


Check out the vision of Dusty's long bomb in the final quarter again. He kicked that from inside the centre square and it easily cleared the goals and hit the back fence. The kick must have gone 85m  :gobdrop.

Even Richmond-hater Tony Shaw called Dusty a star with the don't argue goal in the 3rd quarter and was left amazed by the 85m goal. Dusty is a freak  :thumbsup. 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 19, 2011, 01:38:13 AM
As long as he doesn't fall foul of the 'baseball curse'......................................
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 19, 2011, 01:44:51 AM
Absolute gun of the highest order. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 19, 2011, 03:20:55 AM
His Effectivity percentage is through the roof.
That's what makes him so good.

He runs opposite lines and as a result finds the space.

The way he was booming them on the run reminded me of Juniors at Springy,FFS.

He's the greatest(will be) Tiger since i don't know.

I just love the kid.!!!
if I recall correctly you said he was a "Lazy Maori prick".
......And now you Love him.  :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 19, 2011, 07:53:58 AM
has that rare combination of toughness and skill. just leaves me shaking my head with some of the things he does :bow

the errors are diminishing too :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 09:30:32 AM
has that rare combination of toughness and skill. just leaves me shaking my head with some of the things he does :bow

the errors are diminishing too :thumbsup

well l was shaking my head to Al, no l aint got Parkinson desease  ;D  :thumbsup amazing how this lad kicks so straight & long after the strength he uses & the bursts away from tacklers, He does it consistantly. His last shot after the siren was pure fatigue but this lad is better than Judd in his second year. He will have Tiger supporters increasing the membership & the turnstils will be spinning. The kids will be wearing #4 for many years.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 19, 2011, 11:13:36 AM
Where's Johnny Butcher ???

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as l said Popelord, to be a good liar you must have a good memory,
you got caught out being a liar so let see how you explain this post you made prior to the draft  ;D
l will bring up later when you 1st ever mentioned Martin  ;D see how stupid you make yourself look  :birthday  ;D

read below & take note of the # & date of your post prior to the draft  :santa

1437

 Football / Richmond Rant / Re: Richo given a month to decide his future

 on: September 02, 2009, 11:34:40 AM




A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.

We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.

With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.

If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.

He needs to stay for 1 more year.

Yeah Butcher with our 2nd pick not passing up Martin for Butcher which you whinged for about 6 months after the draft.

Dustin is a gun, glad he's at Tigerland and not Port Adelaide lol

*Circus Music*

In closing you were 100% wrong and if you were a decent bloke and/or a Richmond supporter you'd be happy to be wrong cause we've picked up an absolute gem. Unfortunately you're neither.

This matter is now closed.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 19, 2011, 11:46:04 AM
Moving right along ...


Here's Dusty being interviewed after the game last night

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/365068/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mat073 on June 19, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
I used to think that Trent Cotchin was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Sorry Trent, you are still a superstar but Dustin Martin is going to be the messiah responsible for Richmond winning its 11th flag.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
Where's Johnny Butcher ???

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as l said Popelord, to be a good liar you must have a good memory,
you got caught out being a liar so let see how you explain this post you made prior to the draft  ;D
l will bring up later when you 1st ever mentioned Martin  ;D see how stupid you make yourself look  :birthday  ;D

read below & take note of the # & date of your post prior to the draft  :santa

1437

 Football / Richmond Rant / Re: Richo given a month to decide his future

 on: September 02, 2009, 11:34:40 AM




A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.

We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.

With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.

If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.

He needs to stay for 1 more year.

Yeah Butcher with our 2nd pick not passing up Martin for Butcher which you whinged for about 6 months after the draft, muppet.

Dustin is a gun, glad he's at Tigerland and not Port Adelaide lol

*Circus Music*

In closing you were 100% wrong and if you were a decent bloke and/or a Richmond supporter you'd be happy to be wrong cause we've picked up an absolute gem. Unfortunately you're neither.

This matter is now closed.


being Wrong ??. Butcher aint played AFL cause of a serious injury which could happen to Martin today in a freak accident. ( Which l wouldnot wish on any lad playing football ) so dont take this out of text ok cause l know what your like when grabbing for straws
It could have been any Forward/Ruck l wanted drafted. Had nothing to do with Butcher. You got stuck on that name  ;D It was more KPP l wanted Richmond to draft,  Cause l can tell you l hate Rewoldt & his attitude. 2 different players is Butcher / Martin but l'm more than happy with Richmond's choice picking Martin cause his a exciting, strong, fearless player, so much infact l have labeled him as better than Judd at his stage.

Funny you never mentioned Martin before that post  ;D but its ok you need to keep bringing it up cause there is more for you yet.
Just for your info.  l post all the good stuff private to OER so l dont get my fingers chopped off & l dont have to worry about posters like you trolling over my posts which infact are always on the money. l wonder why

Hows your alias going  ;D you always dodge that since you got caught out LMAO. Travis Cloke said he has never heard of you & was wondering if you were the one of those stalking him  ;D Browny had a great laugh about it & ask if l had your phone number.

Butcher l do care about because l know his talent & he is just unlucky, the day you trashed him after a Grand Final in gale force winds was the day you became the clown of all forums,  because you dont trash people if you not there watching. it alerted me to the kind of poster you are & for your info Butcher was playing injured that day & prior to that had been smashing them in the TAC around the ground. Just wondering if you know what position he plays in the TAC back then. Oh thats right you were so into Metro & Eastern Ranges & being someone else that you weren't at any games  ;D but say you were. Becareful how you post cause people like you get found out quick by people like me  :lol

Butcher young brother will be even better & Richmond are slobbering all over him, so it could still be Butcher at Tigerland ( Remember just using the name). 2 would be nice, maybe we can trade Rewoldt to Port Adelaide cause his bad attitude stinks & Vickery is after his role. Kingy should bite his ears off after what l seen from him last night. l just wish he take a look at what he did to win that Coleman.


Dusty Martin  :thumbsup well his another story. You dont need forwards when his on fire cause he is fantastic to watch. A player like him can kick goals from inside the square anyday.

Now just to finish this off prior to the Martin draft, our club was in turmoil, Development of the players was the worst in the AFL. Several of us posters had been talking about this for many years. We were at rock bottom thanks to those running the club to having the worst coaches. Goodbye Wallace, Rawlings, McRae, Royal, & whoever l missed.  Then Dimma who knew what was needed & the has somehow got the players that were lucky to be kept motivated to a standard of playing which we the members & supporters are enjoying.

l was wrong about Rewoldts talent & have admitted this in a previous thread. Yes he does have talent & can play football but does have some flaws that he can work on. Like moving on in a trade for Butcher ;D no seriously he is exciting but l will post about that on another thread which l'm sure we will both enjoy  ;D now you know all about Rewoldt so much  ;D do myou know his dark secret :o






 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
Dusty goal from the square was enormous
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on June 19, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Butcher has been fit all year and can't get a game for the worst club in the league. He was injured a fair bit last year but still played a fair bit of footy (SANFL twos). For what it's worth, i reckon he will be a good player but we got the right man in Marto.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 01:08:13 PM
Butcher has been fit all year and can't get a game for the worst club in the league. He was injured a fair bit last year but still played a fair bit of footy (SANFL twos). For what it's worth, i reckon he will be a good player but we got the right man in Marto.

JT its no doubt Richmond drafting Martin was a excellent choice. The Butcher / Martin saga got going by 2 posters. Popelord & Myself. Its got out of control. This is a short way of explaining it

Tigermonk wanted Richmond to draft a Forward / Ruckman who covered the field & could help out by back into defence. Butcher was a player who does this & is the reason l wanted him at our first pick in that draft.
At the time our Forward & Ruck was deplorable thanks to the previous coaches. We had Cotchin who was on the brink fighting injury, infact our whole team was shot all over the ground.

Popelord wanted another midfielder which was his choice & l disputed the choice of drafting another midfielder cause l beleived we need to build a team around 2 big KKPF & then build the backline as l thought we had enough mids to cover us but as it turned out Dimma drafted Martin & has got the Rewoldt, Newman, Cotch, Rance, Vickery playing & thanks to the help of the new staff & some band-aids..

It turned into a Butcher vs Martin which you cannot compare the 2 players & one who is not even playing due to a very serious back injury. Will Butcher ever play AFL we dont know, Draft his brother & forget about him cause his at Port Adelaide now anyway & our team is working thanks to the staff.  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 19, 2011, 02:12:35 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 19, 2011, 06:31:42 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D

In other words you dont know either  ;D :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 19, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
lets face it , every guy has a man crush on dusty
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 19, 2011, 09:23:32 PM
Actually sitting high up the stands last evening it was like young Dustin said "I've had enough of this crap & it's time to bury these blokes and this is how"

He did

GUN  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D

In other words you dont know either  ;D :lol

 :lol l think you know better than that  ::)  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 19, 2011, 10:20:50 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D

In other words you dont know either  ;D :lol

 :lol l think you know better than that  ::)  :thumbsup


cant blame me for trying to get the info  ;)  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 10:26:27 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D

In other words you dont know either  ;D :lol

 :lol l think you know better than that  ::)  :thumbsup


cant blame me for trying to get the info  ;)  :cheers

how much you gunna give me for info  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 19, 2011, 10:37:43 PM
Whats Butchers brother like Monky you said we are interested in him.

if l told you l would have to terminate you  ;D

In other words you dont know either  ;D :lol

 :lol l think you know better than that  ::)  :thumbsup


cant blame me for trying to get the info  ;)  :cheers

how much you gunna give me for info  ;D



Nuffin  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 19, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
ok tell ya tomorrow its too late tonight & l'm going to bed before the OER dribbler gets on  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 19, 2011, 11:27:12 PM
Where's Johnny Butcher ???

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as l said Popelord, to be a good liar you must have a good memory,
you got caught out being a liar so let see how you explain this post you made prior to the draft  ;D
l will bring up later when you 1st ever mentioned Martin  ;D see how stupid you make yourself look  :birthday  ;D

read below & take note of the # & date of your post prior to the draft  :santa

1437

 Football / Richmond Rant / Re: Richo given a month to decide his future

 on: September 02, 2009, 11:34:40 AM




A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.

We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.

With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.

If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.

He needs to stay for 1 more year.

Yeah Butcher with our 2nd pick not passing up Martin for Butcher which you whinged for about 6 months after the draft, muppet.

Dustin is a gun, glad he's at Tigerland and not Port Adelaide lol

*Circus Music*

In closing you were 100% wrong and if you were a decent bloke and/or a Richmond supporter you'd be happy to be wrong cause we've picked up an absolute gem. Unfortunately you're neither.

This matter is now closed.


being Wrong ??. Butcher aint played AFL cause of a serious injury which could happen to Martin today in a freak accident. ( Which l wouldnot wish on any lad playing football ) so dont take this out of text ok cause l know what your like when grabbing for straws
It could have been any Forward/Ruck l wanted drafted. Had nothing to do with Butcher. You got stuck on that name  ;D It was more KPP l wanted Richmond to draft,  Cause l can tell you l hate Rewoldt & his attitude. 2 different players is Butcher / Martin but l'm more than happy with Richmond's choice picking Martin cause his a exciting, strong, fearless player, so much infact l have labeled him as better than Judd at his stage.

Funny you never mentioned Martin before that post  ;D but its ok you need to keep bringing it up cause there is more for you yet.
Just for your info.  l post all the good stuff private to OER so l dont get my fingers chopped off & l dont have to worry about posters like you trolling over my posts which infact are always on the money. l wonder why

Hows your alias going  ;D you always dodge that since you got caught out LMAO. Travis Cloke said he has never heard of you & was wondering if you were the one of those stalking him  ;D Browny had a great laugh about it & ask if l had your phone number.

Butcher l do care about because l know his talent & he is just unlucky, the day you trashed him after a Grand Final in gale force winds was the day you became the clown of all forums,  because you dont trash people if you not there watching. it alerted me to the kind of poster you are & for your info Butcher was playing injured that day & prior to that had been smashing them in the TAC around the ground. Just wondering if you know what position he plays in the TAC back then. Oh thats right you were so into Metro & Eastern Ranges & being someone else that you weren't at any games  ;D but say you were. Becareful how you post cause people like you get found out quick by people like me  :lol

Butcher young brother will be even better & Richmond are slobbering all over him, so it could still be Butcher at Tigerland ( Remember just using the name). 2 would be nice, maybe we can trade Rewoldt to Port Adelaide cause his bad attitude stinks & Vickery is after his role. Kingy should bite his ears off after what l seen from him last night. l just wish he take a look at what he did to win that Coleman.


Dusty Martin  :thumbsup well his another story. You dont need forwards when his on fire cause he is fantastic to watch. A player like him can kick goals from inside the square anyday.

Now just to finish this off prior to the Martin draft, our club was in turmoil, Development of the players was the worst in the AFL. Several of us posters had been talking about this for many years. We were at rock bottom thanks to those running the club to having the worst coaches. Goodbye Wallace, Rawlings, McRae, Royal, & whoever l missed.  Then Dimma who knew what was needed & the has somehow got the players that were lucky to be kept motivated to a standard of playing which we the members & supporters are enjoying.

l was wrong about Rewoldts talent & have admitted this in a previous thread. Yes he does have talent & can play football but does have some flaws that he can work on. Like moving on in a trade for Butcher ;D no seriously he is exciting but l will post about that on another thread which l'm sure we will both enjoy  ;D now you know all about Rewoldt so much  ;D do myou know his dark secret :o






 

Wow, I gave you to much credit I didn't realise you were this stupid.

Lets trade a Coleman medalist for a spud who can't get a game in the worst team in the league and is injury prone, that's a genius idea. That has actuaklly won the award for the stupidest idea of all time lol. Congratulations.

You hate Riewoldt. Ah OK, that's embarrassing would you like him to have won 2 Colemans by now?

I'll let Julie C know you're the hero you say you are lol.

So there is another so called Butcher gun, lol I think you're credibility is shot so I'lll take that with a grain of salt lol.

How much is a ticket to the Tigermonk circus lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 19, 2011, 11:35:09 PM
Butcher has been fit all year and can't get a game for the worst club in the league. He was injured a fair bit last year but still played a fair bit of footy (SANFL twos). For what it's worth, i reckon he will be a good player but we got the right man in Marto.

JT its no doubt Richmond drafting Martin was a excellent choice. The Butcher / Martin saga got going by 2 posters. Popelord & Myself. Its got out of control. This is a short way of explaining it

Tigermonk wanted Richmond to draft a Forward / Ruckman who covered the field & could help out by back into defence. Butcher was a player who does this & is the reason l wanted him at our first pick in that draft.
At the time our Forward & Ruck was deplorable thanks to the previous coaches. We had Cotchin who was on the brink fighting injury, infact our whole team was shot all over the ground.

Popelord wanted another midfielder which was his choice & l disputed the choice of drafting another midfielder cause l beleived we need to build a team around 2 big KKPF & then build the backline as l thought we had enough mids to cover us but as it turned out Dimma drafted Martin & has got the Rewoldt, Newman, Cotch, Rance, Vickery playing & thanks to the help of the new staff & some band-aids..

It turned into a Butcher vs Martin which you cannot compare the 2 players & one who is not even playing due to a very serious back injury. Will Butcher ever play AFL we dont know, Draft his brother & forget about him cause his at Port Adelaide now anyway & our team is working thanks to the staff.  ;D

I'll give you credit for a reasonable post.

You fail to add:
You're history of bagging the club for recruiting and development.
You claimed to know John Butcher and therefor have a bias view on his talent.
You're history of bagging Jack Riewoldt, who returned serve with a Coleman medal.
You're digust and bagging of teh club when we drafted Martin and claimed that Butcher would dominate the AFL and we have stuffed up another pick.
You're bagging of the club for drafting an injury prone Ben Griffiths and disgustingly enjoyed the fact that Benny G was injured as you predicted that he would reinjured his shoulder, yet you see it fine to give Butcher a free pass to be injury prone?

We can all understand your reason to draft KP players. But facts are GF's are won with premium midfielders.

If anyone comes out, runs their mouth about the club and strongly put a negative opinion on something and prove to be 100% incorrect surely you will admit they deserve their right whack?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 19, 2011, 11:56:02 PM
so if you wanted a forward ahead if Martin and it wasn't just butcher who'd you have your heart set on?

Talia?
Carlise?
Gawn? 
Black?




Where's Johnny Butcher ???

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as l said Popelord, to be a good liar you must have a good memory,
you got caught out being a liar so let see how you explain this post you made prior to the draft  ;D
l will bring up later when you 1st ever mentioned Martin  ;D see how stupid you make yourself look  :birthday  ;D

read below & take note of the # & date of your post prior to the draft  :santa

1437

 Football / Richmond Rant / Re: Richo given a month to decide his future

 on: September 02, 2009, 11:34:40 AM




A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.

We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.

With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.

If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.

He needs to stay for 1 more year.

Yeah Butcher with our 2nd pick not passing up Martin for Butcher which you whinged for about 6 months after the draft, muppet.

Dustin is a gun, glad he's at Tigerland and not Port Adelaide lol

*Circus Music*

In closing you were 100% wrong and if you were a decent bloke and/or a Richmond supporter you'd be happy to be wrong cause we've picked up an absolute gem. Unfortunately you're neither.

This matter is now closed.


being Wrong ??. Butcher aint played AFL cause of a serious injury which could happen to Martin today in a freak accident. ( Which l wouldnot wish on any lad playing football ) so dont take this out of text ok cause l know what your like when grabbing for straws
It could have been any Forward/Ruck l wanted drafted. Had nothing to do with Butcher. You got stuck on that name  ;D It was more KPP l wanted Richmond to draft,  Cause l can tell you l hate Rewoldt & his attitude. 2 different players is Butcher / Martin but l'm more than happy with Richmond's choice picking Martin cause his a exciting, strong, fearless player, so much infact l have labeled him as better than Judd at his stage.

Funny you never mentioned Martin before that post  ;D but its ok you need to keep bringing it up cause there is more for you yet.
Just for your info.  l post all the good stuff private to OER so l dont get my fingers chopped off & l dont have to worry about posters like you trolling over my posts which infact are always on the money. l wonder why

Hows your alias going  ;D you always dodge that since you got caught out LMAO. Travis Cloke said he has never heard of you & was wondering if you were the one of those stalking him  ;D Browny had a great laugh about it & ask if l had your phone number.

Butcher l do care about because l know his talent & he is just unlucky, the day you trashed him after a Grand Final in gale force winds was the day you became the clown of all forums,  because you dont trash people if you not there watching. it alerted me to the kind of poster you are & for your info Butcher was playing injured that day & prior to that had been smashing them in the TAC around the ground. Just wondering if you know what position he plays in the TAC back then. Oh thats right you were so into Metro & Eastern Ranges & being someone else that you weren't at any games  ;D but say you were. Becareful how you post cause people like you get found out quick by people like me  :lol

Butcher young brother will be even better & Richmond are slobbering all over him, so it could still be Butcher at Tigerland ( Remember just using the name). 2 would be nice, maybe we can trade Rewoldt to Port Adelaide cause his bad attitude stinks & Vickery is after his role. Kingy should bite his ears off after what l seen from him last night. l just wish he take a look at what he did to win that Coleman.


Dusty Martin  :thumbsup well his another story. You dont need forwards when his on fire cause he is fantastic to watch. A player like him can kick goals from inside the square anyday.

Now just to finish this off prior to the Martin draft, our club was in turmoil, Development of the players was the worst in the AFL. Several of us posters had been talking about this for many years. We were at rock bottom thanks to those running the club to having the worst coaches. Goodbye Wallace, Rawlings, McRae, Royal, & whoever l missed.  Then Dimma who knew what was needed & the has somehow got the players that were lucky to be kept motivated to a standard of playing which we the members & supporters are enjoying.

l was wrong about Rewoldts talent & have admitted this in a previous thread. Yes he does have talent & can play football but does have some flaws that he can work on. Like moving on in a trade for Butcher ;D no seriously he is exciting but l will post about that on another thread which l'm sure we will both enjoy  ;D now you know all about Rewoldt so much  ;D do myou know his dark secret :o






 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 20, 2011, 12:31:12 AM
Here Here:

IT IS a given in AFL that a premiership team must have a core group of elite midfielders.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/116575/default.aspx

I still think we are 1 more elite midfielder away from having a complete midfield.

Martin, Cotchin, ?, Foley, Conca

Scully would fit in perfect.

ATM its Jackson who I honestly don't think is a top 4 side player, unless he sticks to a pure tagging role, we shouldn't be relying on him to dispose of the footy, leave it to Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Houli and co.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 20, 2011, 11:12:19 AM
Here Here:

IT IS a given in AFL that a premiership team must have a core group of elite midfielders.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/116575/default.aspx

I still think we are 1 more elite midfielder away from having a complete midfield.

Martin, Cotchin, ?, Foley, Conca

Scully would fit in perfect.

ATM its Jackson who I honestly don't think is a top 4 side player, unless he sticks to a pure tagging role, we shouldn't be relying on him to dispose of the footy, leave it to Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Houli and co.

I agree we are still 1 A grade midfielder short for Premiership success. Scully or getting one of the 17yo Midfielders would resolve this sityuation






Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 20, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Stick to the topic without the personal insults & sniping
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on June 20, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Sydney offered us picks 6 & 14 so they could draft this kid
Too bad Swannies  :-*
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on June 20, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
Actually sitting high up the stands last evening it was like young Dustin said "I've had enough of this crap & it's time to bury these blokes and this is how"

He did

GUN  :thumbsup

Absolutely !  Basically said ' give me the ball and I'll do the rest '  
 Anyone else noticed he's a notoriously slow starter this year. Seems to take a qtr to warm into it. Mind you we could say that about the team as a whole.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 20, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
Snip  :banghead :banghead

Finally warning - keep your personal fueds off the forum and stick to the topic without the insults
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 20, 2011, 04:41:04 PM
Listens to advice

"Better to ignore a fool than encourage one"
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Anyway back to the topic ...

Here's Martin's 5 goals  :thumbsup

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/365441/martins-high-five/
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6Zf9tFeVQ&feature=player_profilepage
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on June 20, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Snip  :banghead :banghead

Finally warning - keep your personal fueds off the forum and stick to the topic without the insults

No worries WP , just don't like seeing I HATE JACK RIEWOLDT on a tiger fan forum.  If Magpiemonk posts it again I'll call him on it again
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on June 20, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
Thought this was a dusty Martin thread and seeing he tore it up on the weekend was looking forward to some posters highlights of his game. Oh well.....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2011, 08:16:45 PM
Snip!

Thought this was a dusty Martin thread and seeing he tore it up on the weekend was looking forward to some posters highlights of his game. Oh well.....
Well said. This topic is about Dustin Martin ppl!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2011, 12:32:49 PM
Yesterday wasn't a great birthday present but Dusty turns 20 today  :birthday
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: wayne on June 27, 2011, 10:30:36 AM
Yesterday wasn't a great birthday present but Dusty turns 20 today  :birthday

Many players with tattoos these days, but I hope this wasn't Dusty, seeing as he could have been out celebrating....

9. Players in punch-ups
Word yesterday that a young lad with tatts (well, that reduces the number to about 200) got into a scrap at city nightclub at the weekend. These things happen time and again, but best it doesn't.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

 :pray
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 27, 2011, 01:02:12 PM
One thing l dont like hearing from the senior players on footy programs is how they all bang the drums how tuff Martin is, How strong he fends off players. Bla Bla Bla, everyone gets takin out at some stage. He will probably bounce back up  :lol  ;D but it worries me
Too much preasure put on a young footballer. Only a matter of time before someone going to line him up & hurt him because there is too much focus on him.  It only takes a player with the mentality of Campbell Brown who wants to get noticed just that little bit more cause his not playing well. It happened to Freo's Ballantyne but that prick deserves it
Gut feelings thats going to happen against the Cheaters this week  ;D & the Suns. l hope that Tuck is there to protect him & the other teammates protect our mids.  Every week l see players going after Cotch. Kingy has also been a target.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 27, 2011, 01:19:02 PM
Our gun mids need to string a few games together.
They have been good for the most part and have been the difference in some games but they need to string 4 or 5 games together in succession. Martin has been great but he did not have much impact on Saturday and Nathan Jones showed him up on Saturday. Consistency.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on June 27, 2011, 06:00:44 PM
It's something that comes with age too, Tucker.

Melbourne have Jones and Mollony in the middle. We rely too heavily on youth. We need more out of older players like Jackson and Grigg.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 27, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
And it will come Willy I just hope its sooner rather than later. By 22 I'm hoping these kids are on over 25 possies are game week in and out rather than a great game hear quiet the next week and a good game there.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on July 27, 2011, 09:37:51 PM
The young man was down at the local oval tonight with a mate, training for about 2 hours under lights in the cold.


No worries about his dedication.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on July 27, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 22, 2011, 12:32:30 AM
Midfielder who kicks goals and produce the goods when needed are priceless. Dusty is one of those. Sheer class both the curving grubber in the 3rd qtr against the run of play and then standing up in the tackle and kicking a beauty in the last  :bow. He had the trademark don't argue going a few times in traffic too  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2011, 05:52:33 PM
Dusty shows strength and skill  :thumbsup

http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/382353/martin+shows+strength+and+skill/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 22, 2011, 07:13:52 PM
Just knew Martin was going win the last 1/4 forward line contest
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 23, 2011, 12:36:16 AM
Freak.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on August 23, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
Another very solid contribution from Dustin.

Would have to be in top 5 for the B&F.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on August 23, 2011, 08:48:21 AM
We really did get the number one pick out those three with this lad.  He is just great to watch.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 23, 2011, 09:06:03 AM
We really did get the number one pick out those three with this lad.  He is just great to watch.

He is a FOOTBALLER  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 23, 2011, 10:14:04 PM
What are the other two? Gynecologists?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 24, 2011, 07:06:32 AM
What are the other two? Gynecologists?

Footballer first as opposed to athletes first footballer 2nd.

Dusty has more footy smarts
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 24, 2011, 09:17:43 AM
only when he plays on instinct WP.

He's not exactly a thinking footballer, a keeper none the less though
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on August 24, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
C'mon Al.  The guy plays like a veteran and he is been in the system for what 2 years?  He might not fit the profile of an Oxford scholar but neither does 90% or more of the population despite what they may see in the mirror.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Muscles on August 24, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Another player who has to work harder on defence when in the midfield.  When it comes to running hard into defensive positions when the opposition break our zone/press, he's not leading the chasing pack very ofter.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 24, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
Has been great for us. Needs some more consistency and rack up the big numbers win lose or draw rather than Dusty has a real good game and we win.
With experience I hope the kid has big games against the big clubs.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on August 24, 2011, 03:30:00 PM
Dusty has a real good game and we win.

That appears to be the case. Not bad when a kid can have such a huge influence on the result. Defensively he needs to work harder no doubt.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 24, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
C'mon Al.  The guy plays like a veteran and he is been in the system for what 2 years?  He might not fit the profile of an Oxford scholar but neither does 90% or more of the population despite what they may see in the mirror.

not basing that on martin the individual, but martin the footballer. learnt a long time ago not to confuse the individual and his football ability.

Most of the good stuff he does is seems to be on instinct rather than smart decision making.

In a way it's the nature of the beast. He's at his best when he surges, using strength to break free which causes an adrenalin rush which basically means you are running on instinct

as others have said, when he plays well, we play well, but i think it's more specifically when he kicks goals we go close to winning. Instinctual players are normally at their best around goals.

Dimma said something about how he'd try to explain something to martin and martin just looks at him as if to say just let me go play footy.  :laugh:

Wasn't a critisim of the kid though owl.

if we could just put concas head on martins body.......
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dice on August 24, 2011, 05:14:21 PM
if we could just put concas head on martins body.......

We'd have a ranga with neck tatts  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 24, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 24, 2011, 06:23:26 PM
What are the other two? Gynecologists?

Proctologists
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 24, 2011, 06:37:41 PM
C'mon Al.  The guy plays like a veteran and he is been in the system for what 2 years?  He might not fit the profile of an Oxford scholar but neither does 90% or more of the population despite what they may see in the mirror.

not basing that on martin the individual, but martin the footballer. learnt a long time ago not to confuse the individual and his football ability.

Not enough of that thought process occurs unfortunately!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 24, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
What are the other two? Gynecologists?

Proctologists

I saw a proctologist the other day. What confused me most about the examination was when he put both hands on my shoulders...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 24, 2011, 10:56:40 PM
Footballer first as opposed to athletes first footballer 2nd.

Trengove is totally footballer first, athlete second. Look-out when he gets a few pre-seasons into him and builds his athleticism. He didn't play seniors in the SANFL finals as a 17yr old because he was a good runner.

Scully was certainly the better athlete of the three as a junior, but he's also got a good brain on him.

All three are good 'footballers' if you ask me. Naturals.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2011, 08:38:58 AM
I agree, but I reckon we lucked in.  Martin has strength, skill, courage and I don't doubt the others do too.  Scully looks to need a few more years of physical development imo.  Trengove has stood up under the physicality a lot better and does have some great skills too but honesty I wouldn't change a thing.  Dusty was perfect.  I am not looking in envy and saying if only except perhaps if we got our priority ...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 25, 2011, 06:06:40 PM
No way am I looking at the other two in envy

Martin  :bow
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 25, 2011, 06:51:26 PM
Goes without saying Dustin Is a beast. He is superior to the melbourne lads but tengrove is still a fine footballer. And i'd cream myself if scully was added to our midfield group.

His gut runnig and solid professional way of going about it would be almost the perfect compliment to our group.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 26, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
Let the bodies hit the floor
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 26, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
Prior to the draft I had Trengove as the best of the three. If he had slipped to our pick 3 I wouldn't have cared although Dusty complements Cotch whereas Trengove is similar to Cotch in the way they play. The one question mark I had over Scully was his size being smaller than Dusty and Trengove but right now it's that knee problem which is the main concern.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 28, 2011, 06:07:55 PM
Dusty sure knows how to be a matchwinner when he goes forward. Two goals in the last plus that amazing soccer chip to Vickery. His footysmarts are just so instinctive.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Muscles on August 28, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
Dusty, very strong in core. Couple of times today, he was tackled pretty well. He stood up in the tackles and eventually broke away. Impressive!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 28, 2011, 06:40:00 PM
Should play on instinct all the time. That soccer kick to Vix just reminded me of his tap in from Nahas cross against Nought. Brilliant stuff.
Glad we got Dusty.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 29, 2011, 12:48:07 AM
Defensive Dusty still a gem
By Max Phillips
7:24 PM Sun 28 Aug, 2011


HE DIDN'T kick a swag of goals or collect a pile of possessions, but Dustin Martin was still among Richmond's best in the Tigers' 22-point victory over Adelaide on Sunday afternoon.

Martin, in his second year of AFL, has averaged 22 possessions and kicked 31 goals this season, and is quickly making a name as one of the most damaging and exciting young midfielders in the competition.

But it was a different Dustin Martin on display against the notoriously hard-running Crows.

Martin's performance showed maturity, leadership and selflessness beyond his years as the 20-year-old Tiger steered Richmond to victory after the Tigers trailed by as much as 24 points during the opening term.

Martin still managed to gather 19 possessions and boot two goals, but it was his defensive pressure that brought adulation from Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
 
"Offensively, 'Dusty' can play there's no doubt - he's got that ability to press forward," Hardwick said.

"But the thing we've really been pleased with is his ability to tackle and chase.

"We sat down with him and showed him a few players and how they measure their game on it (tackling pressure) and funnily enough, if you get your defensive game right, your offensive game certainly follows."

On Sunday, Martin laid nine tackles, the second highest of his career, had five clearances and three score-assists.

"He's going to be a very, very good footy player for this club for a long time," Hardwick said.

Martin revealed that the defensive aspect of his game has been a focus for improvement in recent weeks.

"It's something that I've been poor at throughout the year," Martin told afl.com.au.

"I probably haven't been laying enough tackles as a midfielder so I've really been working at that in the last month."

Martin said that it was an improved desire for the contest that was behind the Tigers' recent return to form culminating in three consecutive wins.

"Our intensity and physicality has been really good and that's what we've been focusing on," he said.

"Winning the one-on-ones and winning the contested ball - that's what we're after."

The Tigers' brave win will give Richmond supporters plenty to look forward to at Punt Road as 2012 approaches, with just one assignment remaining this season against North Melbourne next Sunday afternoon.

"We wanted to finish the year off strong and I think we are showing that," Martin said.

"We're not going to give up towards the end of the season - we're going to play some really good footy and build momentum into next year.

"We'll come out firing next week."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122105/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on August 29, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
I noticed both Nahas and Edwards employ the rugby style fend off that Dusty uses to break free of a tackler in front of them.  Good to see they are learning from each other.  It is a good skill, if you have some momentum or good strength it puts em off balance momentarily if u hit them right and u buy yourself some time to dispose of the pill or break free.  If like Nahas your smaller, all he does is bounce off but it still stops him getting hold.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2011, 12:52:20 PM
You've got to laugh at some of the crap Sheeds come up with  :wallywink


Comment From Con
Are you a little sad Sheeds that you couldn't grab Dustin Martin? Money talks but this kid's loyalty speaks far louder than Scully's mismanaged move
   
   
Kevin Sheedy:
Dustin Martin might not always stay at Richmond. People forget that clubs trade players when they want to, and what's happening now is players are choosing to leave when they want to more often.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/anger-as-tom-scully-takes-money-and-runs/story-fn69a32t-1226135186228
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on September 13, 2011, 12:59:29 PM
What he said is true. But it didn't answer the question of Martin being loyal for not wanting to move when by his own admission players are choosing to leave more often. So that speaks even more of his loyalty.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 28, 2011, 04:02:12 PM
(http://c0014014.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_8fe83a8)

http://lockerz.com/s/150897576

mitch farmer twitter| mitchF15

"Just cruzin with my boy @DustinMartin4 #winners"
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on October 28, 2011, 04:51:49 PM
LMAO Mitch Farmer,sucking up to the Good players behinds so he gets to stuff the club for another year
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 28, 2011, 10:39:56 PM
I'm tipping Dusty doesn't even know Mitch Farmer's name.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 11, 2011, 11:26:20 AM
FootyTragic twitter

"After returning to training out of shape last year, Dustin Martin is looking great this preseason, running a PB time round the Tan yesterday"

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2011, 11:06:27 PM
From Jack Riewoldt's twitter tonight:

"@DustinMartin4 hey mate just found out you middle name is Lawrence that's pretty funny!! #funnymiddlenames"
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on December 10, 2011, 06:53:08 PM
I'm tipping Dusty doesn't even know Mitch Farmer's name.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on January 04, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
Dusty has gone the romper stomper   :thumbsup :bow:

http://twitter.com/Danconnors19/status/151572722399461376/photo/1/large
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 05, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
Dusty has gone the romper stomper   :thumbsup :bow:

http://twitter.com/Danconnors19/status/151572722399461376/photo/1/large
A few players have gone the No.1 at the barber

"RT @shaungrigg6: the #towballbrothers are @BrettDeledio03 @DustinMartin4 ,rancy,Kingy,@abrowne34, addam maric. Big Tommy D is next!"
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on January 07, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
If Dusty was an interior designer he'd be a minimalist. TV, stereo, couch and Air/Con is all you need  ;D.

(https://p.twimg.com/AihLfrBCAAAyRNW.jpg)
https://twitter.com/#!/DustinMartin4/status/155457194635165697/photo/1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on January 08, 2012, 10:09:07 AM
total genius split system right over the telly....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 10, 2012, 12:34:51 PM
Dusty has gone the romper stomper   :thumbsup :bow:

http://twitter.com/Danconnors19/status/151572722399461376/photo/1/large
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403059_10150521853838276_298686323275_8821143_148328706_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150521853838276&set=a.10150521851783276.399025.298686323275&type=3&l=edd46f6a7f&theater
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on January 10, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
If Dusty was an interior designer he'd be a minimalist. TV, stereo, couch and Air/Con is all you need  ;D.

(https://p.twimg.com/AihLfrBCAAAyRNW.jpg)
https://twitter.com/#!/DustinMartin4/status/155457194635165697/photo/1

Krak also went through a minimalist period....."Four Walls, Wash Basin, Prison Bed"  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on January 10, 2012, 01:06:47 PM
Spartan Martin.

Daxos: I see I was wrong to expect Sparta's commitment to at least match our own.
King Leonidas: Doesn't it?
[points to Arcadian soldier behind Daxos]
King Leonidas: You there, what is your profession?
Free Greek-Potter: I am a potter... sir.
King Leonidas: [points to another soldier] And you, Arcadian, what is your profession?
Free Greek-Sculptor: Sculptor, sir.
King Leonidas: Sculptor.
[turns to a third soldier]
King Leonidas: You?
Free Greek-Blacksmith: Blacksmith.
King Leonidas: [turns back shouting] Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: WAR! WAR! WAR!
King Leonidas: [turning to Daxos] You see, old friend? I brought more soldiers than you did.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 11, 2012, 01:38:17 PM
Dream Team builder: Dustin Martin
Source: BigPond Sport
Wednesday, January 11, 2012



2012 position: midfielder/forward
2012 price: $442,500
Bye: round 13

Last year's average: 89.5
Last year's high score: 141 (round 5)

Four reasons to have him in your team

1) In 2011, just his second AFL season, Martin finished third in the Tigers' best and fairest behind Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio. Granted, this tells a tale about Richmond's depth, but it also speaks volumes about a player whose trajectory at the top level looks like the flight path of Apollo 11. For Dream Teamers Martin offers durability, having played 43 of 44 possible games in his first two seasons. He's also a player who can rack up the points in midfield and drift forward to bolster his score by kicking goals.

2) He's leaner. This time last year, the young Tiger fronted for pre-season only to receive a bollocking from coach Damien Hardwick for returning unfit. In Richmond's traditional training run around the Tan, Martin struggled at the back of the pack. He completed the rest of his pre-season in the group set aside for plus-sized Tigers aiming to lose weight. This year he has stuck to the club's prescribed program, improved his diet, shed a couple of kilograms and reaped the rewards. He matched Deledio in the latest edition of the Tan run, sprinting home sixth overall.

3) He's meaner. Not only has Martin trimmed down to 88kg - just shy of what he says is his fighting weight of 87kg - he's replaced puppy fat with muscle. If opponents feared his famous 'don't argue' last season, running into Martin in 2012 is going to be like hip-and-shouldering a W-class tram. That should mean yet more contested footy, and an improvement on his 2011 average of 22 disposals per game.

4) Last year Martin averaged a tick under 90 Dream Team points, which is less than you would be expecting from a player filling one of your six precious midfield spots. Fortunately, in 2012 he can also be selected in your forward line. That's largely due to the 33 goals Martin kicked in 2011, up from 11 in his debut season. The Tigers will use him primarily as a midfielder this year, while the length of time he spends resting up forward will be determined by both the Tigers' needs and Martin's horsepower. Given Martin is completing his best pre-season to date and has a year's more experience under his tightened belt, there's reason to believe he will spend more time in the centre than ever.

The downside?

They don't give out Dream Team points for don't argues. Former Richmond coach Danny Frawley has compared Martin with Mark Ricciuto – another goalkicking midfielder who made his name as a hard man. While that's flattering for any young footballer, the comparison dampens the excitement for Dream Team coaches. In 2006, statistically Ricciuto's most prolific year, the Adelaide champion's Dream Team average was just short of 100.

Risk rating: The chief concern for potential owners is that Martin may spend more time knocking players off the ball and recuperating in the forward line than he does racking up Dream Team points. One Alan Didak.

http://www.bigpondsport.com/dream-team-builder-dustin-martin/tabid/91/newsid/82393/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 17, 2012, 12:17:41 AM
READY TO FIRE

A FITTER and leaner Dustin Martin is ready to take the competition "by the scruff of the neck".

That's the view of Richmond teammate Shaun Grigg, who has watched Martin excel over the summer.

Martin started the pre-season by cutting more than a minute off his best time around the 3.8km Tan track and has not let up since.

"He's fit and firing and I think he'll take the competition by the scruff of the neck this year," Grigg said. "He's got a lot leaner ... so we should be able to see the benefits of a bit more (time in the) midfield, and he can also go forward, as we've seen."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/nathan-brown-leaves-collingwood-facing-a-tall-order/story-fn7eccwx-1226273175014
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 17, 2012, 12:24:46 AM
Tiger cub Martin is primed to join elite
Matt Murnane
February 17, 2012


THOSE watching Richmond's Dustin Martin on a daily basis say the 20-year-old will take the competition by storm this year.

Having shed the ''puppy fat'' he carried through his first two seasons, Martin has made it his mission to join the game's elite midfielders this year.

''He's been one of the strongest trainers on the track all pre-season,'' teammate Shaun Grigg said yesterday. ''He's fit and firing and I think he will take the competition by the scruff of the neck this year.''

Martin played under an intense spotlight during his first two seasons, but this summer has relished the chance to fly under the radar and complete his most thorough pre-season yet - with minimal media attention.

''He didn't come back in great shape after his first season of AFL,'' Tigers midfield coach Danny Daly said yesterday.

''But this [time] he didn't really go away or do any holidays or anything like that, he virtually started straight after last season finished.

''He hasn't lost any weight as such, but he's lost that puppy fat that he had and has put on a bit of bulk, which will help him through the midfield and when he goes forward. The times and the distance he's running in some of our testing is way up on last year.''

Martin, a No. 3 draft pick, backed up a stunning debut season in 2010 by playing every game in 2011 and finishing third in the Tigers' best and fairest award. He was second for kicks, third in hard-ball gets, fourth in tackles and kicked 33 goals - third most at the club.

Daly said he could sense the clever ball-winner, who has shown he can also be explosive as an outside runner and a dangerous marking option inside 50, was ready to explode.

''Hopefully for the Tiger faithful, and ourselves, it is the year he does that,'' he said. ''I think if we see another 10 or 15 per cent [improvement] on last year, we're going to have a genuine A-grader playing for us.''

Daly has spent much of the pre-season trying to turn Martin into the complete package, hoping to add a strong defensive component to his game. ''It's probably been a little area that hasn't been a great strength of his, but he's certainly improved.

''We know he can win the footy and offensively he's pretty good, when he goes forward he kicks goals. But we just needed to work on his ability to read the play and know when to go back, and when not to.''

Martin averaged about 70 per cent game time last year, but his enhanced fitness will allow him to lift that to 80 per cent this season, Daly said.

He will benefit greatly from having players such as Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Nathan Foley around him, and the extra season and summer the club's talented midfield have had to develop. But Daly still expects Martin to be a target of opposition teams this year. ''There's no doubt he's going to get tagged a lot more this year, so I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles those situations, and hopefully helping us develop into a top-eight side.''

Daly described the midfield group as intensely competitive, and said Martin and company had raised the bar this pre-season.

''When we do some stoppage stuff out here [at training], if one of them gets beaten at a contest, it gets very ugly the next time.

''We keep a scoreboard on a lot of things and they don't like being on the bottom, let me tell you.''

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-cub-martin-is-primed-to-join-elite-20120216-1tbvx.html#ixzz1mYDVB9D3
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 17, 2012, 06:39:53 AM
Pressure on the kid or what...... :banghead

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on February 17, 2012, 06:55:52 AM
I dunno bout you wat wat but I don't see him showing any signs of pressure, he is one cool cat.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 17, 2012, 06:58:51 AM
Come on WAT "No excuses" remember .... or are conditions now being applied  ;D

I dunno bout you wat wat but I don't see him showing any signs of pressure, he is one cool cat.

 :thumbsup owl
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on February 17, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
Dusty and JAck have that excitment factor that few other players in our team can generate. Hard not to get caught up in the Martin Hype at this stage of the year. Hope he tear the comp a new one!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on February 17, 2012, 01:59:57 PM
Come on WAT "No excuses" remember .... or are conditions now being applied  ;D

I dunno bout you wat wat but I don't see him showing any signs of pressure, he is one cool cat.

 :thumbsup owl

like your take on that quote WP.

some are up and down like  pogo stick.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 17, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
Come on WAT "No excuses" remember .... or are conditions now being applied  ;D

I dunno bout you wat wat but I don't see him showing any signs of pressure, he is one cool cat.

 :thumbsup owl

like your take on that quote WP.

some are up and down like  pogo stick.

Owl sees everything from the top of the barn  8)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 17, 2012, 04:35:01 PM
go Owl  ;D

(http://bikefriendlydeepellum.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/photo2.jpg?w=500&h=375)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on February 17, 2012, 04:41:57 PM
Miss owl obviously enjoys a bike ride judging by her big brown smile.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 20, 2012, 01:36:21 PM
There's been a one-third improvement in Dusty's running capacity according to the Club  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 20, 2012, 02:23:01 PM
Miss owl obviously enjoys a bike ride judging by her big brown smile.

Bit slow today! just got that one!  :rollin :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on February 20, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
There's been a one-third improvement in Dusty's running capacity according to the Club  :thumbsup.

thats quite incredible and scary for opposition clubs. makes me lol even more when you hear dumbnut draft experts saying he has less upside than players like scully and trengove....hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 20, 2012, 05:13:51 PM
There's been a one-third improvement in Dusty's running capacity according to the Club  :thumbsup.

Good news.
He'll need it if he's to spend more time in the midfield this season.
Also hopefully helps with the defensive aspects of his game which were lacking last year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 20, 2012, 06:49:03 PM
There's been a one-third improvement in Dusty's running capacity according to the Club  :thumbsup.

thats quite incredible and scary for opposition clubs. makes me lol even more when you hear dumbnut draft experts saying he has less upside than players like scully and trengove....hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

  Great post TM :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on February 20, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
....hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 20, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol

going to be a lot of accidental sword crossing at the punt road end this year  ;D

whoa 'scuse me mate  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 21, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
From aflstatsnerd twitter ...

"Dustin Martin in 2011 became the youngest ever player to average 20+ disposals and kick 30 goals in a season."
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 21, 2012, 12:18:47 PM
hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol

going to be a lot of accidental sword crossing at the punt road end this year  ;D

whoa 'scuse me mate  :shh
:lol They might have to make mandatory that all male members have to purchase two seats.  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 21, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol

going to be a lot of accidental sword crossing at the punt road end this year  ;D

whoa 'scuse me mate  :shh
:lol They might have to make mandatory that all male members have to purchase two seats.  ;D

Theres marketing potential for a new membership category.

'Punt Road Peyronie's'. Buy two seats side by side and get a free resting cushion.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 21, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol

going to be a lot of accidental sword crossing at the punt road end this year  ;D

whoa 'scuse me mate  :shh
:lol They might have to make mandatory that all male members have to purchase two seats.  ;D

Theres marketing potential for a new membership category.

'Punt Road Peyronie's'. Buy two seats side by side and get a free resting cushion.
:rollin
And when "something" rests on the cushion it triggers a built in speaker which shouts "Eat Em Alive!!"  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 21, 2012, 05:00:35 PM
hmmmm 30% increase on running capacity in one preseason suggests this demigod has no ceiling  :bow

I have wood

 :lol

going to be a lot of accidental sword crossing at the punt road end this year  ;D

whoa 'scuse me mate  :shh
:lol They might have to make mandatory that all male members have to purchase two seats.  ;D

Theres marketing potential for a new membership category.

'Punt Road Peyronie's'. Buy two seats side by side and get a free resting cushion.
:rollin
And when "something" rests on the cushion it triggers a built in speaker which shouts "Eat Em Alive!!"  ;D

 :cheers

Great idea Tiga! Silver members and above could even be entitled to a special 'kneading' cushion. Everytime Dusty gets a touch, two inbuilt rollers remotely activate.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on February 21, 2012, 06:32:05 PM
 :lol :rollin :lol

That whole conversation is p-funny on so many levels!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on February 21, 2012, 08:44:52 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on February 21, 2012, 09:43:04 PM
Classic! I have front row so no-one gets poked in the head.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 22, 2012, 01:47:20 AM
I'm not sure it's safe that me and my anaconda come to round 1 now.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 22, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
I'm not sure it's safe that me and my anaconda come to round 1 now.
For those "Punt Road Peyronie's" with recalcitrant Anacondas, Skilled snake charmers equipped with adhesive ducting will be on hand to ensure that all MCG OH&S policies are adhered to.  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 22, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
So that's why we are so keen to get the Indians on board

Dick wizards
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on February 22, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
And if it gets damaged there is always Dick Smith to hammer it back into shape.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 22, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
And if it gets damaged there is always Dick Smith to hammer it back into shape.

Nice work Owl :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 22, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
Lawl  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 23, 2012, 08:36:24 AM
Dook's I think you and I need to go on the road with this. Or at least start a Wednesday night TV chat show.  :thumbsup  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on February 23, 2012, 10:23:02 AM
I thought you'd done that already with puppetry of the penis?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 23, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
small show  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 23, 2012, 10:49:14 AM
We will call it "The Cold Water Experience" with tiga & Dooks.  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 10, 2012, 05:53:46 PM
Ch 10 news just showed some highlights from today's game. Dusty just makes things including 9-point goals from inside the centre square look so easy  :bow.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 10, 2012, 08:35:27 PM
Vision of Dusty's supergoal today

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429297/Martin%20kicks%20a%20supergoal/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 10, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Lids interviewing Dusty in the rooms after the game...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429318/In%20the%20rooms:%20Lids%20and%20Dusty/



Martin highlights ...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429306/Martin%20highlight%20package/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on March 10, 2012, 11:13:20 PM
Lids interviewing Dusty in the rooms after the game...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429318/In%20the%20rooms:%20Lids%20and%20Dusty/



Martin highlights ...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429306/Martin%20highlight%20package/

How can you not love Dusty. Even for a harmless interview by Deledio, Dusty just doesnt give a flying f$%^. The bloke just wants to smash bodies, kick goals and have a win. Love him.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 10, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 10, 2012, 11:28:22 PM
Dusty = God
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 11, 2012, 01:25:45 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 11, 2012, 01:28:03 AM
But seriously, this chap has the potential to be anything. Anything.....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 11, 2012, 01:35:39 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol

Would make her a lesbian, Slick Wilbur. :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 11, 2012, 01:49:21 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol

Would make her a lesbian, Slick Wilbur. :shh

 :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 11, 2012, 02:11:51 AM
Bed time now mate. Not going to lie to your mum if she asks what you were up to tonight...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 11, 2012, 02:24:24 AM
Bed time now mate. Not going to lie to your mum if she asks what you were up to tonight...
she knows...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on March 11, 2012, 03:14:35 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

what a stuffing ridiculous thing to say
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 11, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol

Would make her a lesbian, Slick Wilbur. :shh

I'm glad someone understood the gist of it... she was inferring I was a girl hence she was a lesbo   :whistle
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on March 11, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
My favorite was his tackle, casually drops the geezer, rips the ball up and runs off to kick a goal.  Need two opposition on him to make it a 50/50 for the ball lol.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on March 11, 2012, 10:03:13 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol

Would make her a lesbian, Slick Wilbur. :shh

I'm glad someone understood the gist of it... she was inferring I was a girl hence she was a lesbo   :whistle

Oh,i can comprehend it.
I am actually a fan of your posts usually but this one was just dumb as horse  cheese
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 11, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
This kid has announced his intentions for the year.

Will become a superstar and a household name by the end of 2012 like your Franklins, Judds and your Pendleburys.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Owl on March 11, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
howmany Franklins, Judds and Pendlebury's are there? 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 11, 2012, 10:08:05 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 11, 2012, 10:10:59 AM
I told my wife to be, no offence i would turn for dusty, she replied so would I   :shh

that would make your wife a man....

 :lol

Would make her a lesbian, Slick Wilbur. :shh

I'm glad someone understood the gist of it... she was inferring I was a girl hence she was a lesbo   :whistle

Oh,i can comprehend it.
I am actually a fan of your posts usually but this one was just dumb as horse

  :lol, it was a tongue in cheek comment, I'll wear it
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on March 11, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
it was more disappointment in a peer than anything.  :scream
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 11, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Just a wrecking ball with the ability to be brutal and delicate at the same time. All class. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2012, 02:12:08 PM
From Robbo's 'The Tackle' ...


WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE NAB CUP

1. Dustin Martin


Elite strength. Elite ball user. Minimum fuss footballer. The young man who said he was born to play AFL has had a spanking pre-season competition and he's set impose himself even more on games. A club official said Martin had improved his gut-running by up to 30 per cent over summer. Martin/Cotchin could be Woodward/Bernstein of the AFL.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/why-carlton-can-win-the-premiership/story-fn5937w8-1226296657546
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 17, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
Just had $20 on Dusty to win the brownlow at $51. :laugh:
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 17, 2012, 05:13:50 PM
Just had $20 on Dusty to win the brownlow at $51. :laugh:

$51. He was sitting on about $67 last week before his BOG against Geelong.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 17, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
Just had $20 on Dusty to win the brownlow at $51. :laugh:

$51. He was sitting on about $67 last week before his BOG against Geelong.


Oh well it was either pour petrol or take the punt.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 19, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
Dave Astbury has posted the following tribute to Dusty pic on twitter ....

(https://p.twimg.com/AoTbfmMCMAEeo8v.jpg)
https://twitter.com/#!/dastbury12/status/181511220870918144/photo/1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 22, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Good ol' Damian Barrett had to try and make a big deal out of Dusty switching management from Phoenix (Nixon's old company) to someone else. He said the 'why' will become clear in a couple of weeks and then left it at that ::).
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 22, 2012, 10:46:47 PM
Maybe because Nixon has a wedding to plan in Moe?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on March 22, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
Good ol' Damian Barrett had to try and make a big deal out of Dusty switching management from Phoenix (Nixon's old company) to someone else. He said the 'why' will become clear in a couple of weeks and then left it at that ::).

Maybe his changing to get some of the commission the(manager) is going to get from Bastinac's big pay day from GWS.

From my understand his changing to the same manager who handles Bastinac? nothing story really.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on March 22, 2012, 11:35:58 PM
Changing from Nixon? Geez hasn't everyone?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 02, 2012, 03:03:38 AM
Robbo gets stuck into Dusty today in his 'The Tackle' article. Says Dusty needed to kick that goal which would've put us just a point behind. Momentum is a key part of footy and if he had kicked it then you don't what could've happened. Robbo then added that Dusty multiplied that mistake by not chasing Yarran on his way to kicking that goal. We laud Dusty when he runs one way so fair enough to bag him. He needs work hard and run hard to both ways. Not the first time this has been a criticism of Martin.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 02, 2012, 05:59:35 AM
Ffs Martin ran so hard to make position to kick that goal...he was blowing so hard that is hy he missed.. He was spent...and ffs his efforts twice got us back in the game...robbo is a fat pig and has no stuffing idea... And ffs yarran went out of bounds.. The only thing that was proved on Thursday night is that we r still.mentally weak and drop our heads to easy
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 02, 2012, 06:52:47 AM
I wouldn't be too concerned about what robbo says anymore...
Easy for him to criticise richmond, his team lost on the weekend and like any good filth supporter is shifting focus to another team.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 02, 2012, 07:00:41 AM
Robbo hasn't said anything that hasnt been discussed here. Does the truth hurt us that much or is it a case we're the only ones allowed to be critical ?

We had the momentum when Dusty lined up for that goal, it needed to be kicked, good players nail them. It was a massive miss for us in the context of the game; fact. To say he was "spent" as he took the kick is a pretty poor excuse

And think everyone would agree his "non" chase on Yarran was terrible (and that's being kind); it was a very veery poor effort. Again costly. That the ball ended up being over the line is a non issue because that had absolutely no bearing on the chase or in this case non chase

Did both things cost us the game? No but they were 2 of the biggest game changes in that last quarter 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Muscles on April 02, 2012, 07:52:18 AM
Our midfielders in general don't run hard enough into defensive positions.  That's one of the reasons why our defenders get caught out.  We typically never have that extra get-out option.  Too many of our mids are running three quarter pace when the opposition are streaming forwards with the ball.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Damo on April 02, 2012, 08:07:45 AM
I wouldn't be too concerned about what robbo says anymore...
Easy for him to criticise richmond, his team lost on the weekend and like any good filth supporter is shifting focus to another team.

Robbo's team won and were lucky to do so. Robbo=ess.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 02, 2012, 10:19:08 AM
I wouldn't be too concerned about what robbo says anymore...
Easy for him to criticise richmond, his team lost on the weekend and like any good filth supporter is shifting focus to another team.

Robbo's team won and were lucky to do so. Robbo=ess.

Really? I was always under the impression he was pies...
My apologies, if he dropped that idgaf attitude he might be an alright journo
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 02, 2012, 10:40:10 AM
HIGHER EXPECTATIONS
Mark Robinson
The Tackle - Herald-Sun
02 April 2012


Hope Dustin Martin likes reading, for he should have a crack at the 2012 Champion Data Prospectus.

It states: "We all admire his ability to break a tackle, but he needs to improve when applying physical pressure himself, recording the worst tackling efficiency of any Richmond midfielder last season.''

It's probably the first public criticism of Martin since he bullocked his way into the Richmond team.

The second lot of public criticism came after the Tigers capitulated in the last quarter to Carlton last Thursday night.

His missed shot for goal, which would've put the Tigers within a point in the last quarter, was disappointing for a young man with a golden right foot. Yet it was his less than enthusiastic chase down of Carlton's Chris Yarran that drew the most attention.

Twice he thought Yarran was going to kick the ball and twice Yarran didn't and twice Martin was going through the motions with his chasing.

It's an area of his game that needs attention.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mark-robinson-geelong-was-arrogant-selfish-and-stupid-against-fremantle/story-fn5937w8-1226315830868
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on April 02, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
Robbo hasn't said anything that hasnt been discussed here. Does the truth hurt us that much or is it a case we're the only ones allowed to be critical ?

We had the momentum when Dusty lined up for that goal, it needed to be kicked, good players nail them. It was a massive miss for us in the context of the game; fact. To say he was "spent" as he took the kick is a pretty poor excuse

And think everyone would agree his "non" chase on Yarran was terrible (and that's being kind); it was a very veery poor effort. Again costly. That the ball ended up being over the line is a non issue because that had absolutely no bearing on the chase or in this case non chase

Did both things cost us the game? No but they were 2 of the biggest game changes in that last quarter

have to agree, the chase down as put by Robbo was spot on.


Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tiger Tragic on April 02, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
HIGHER EXPECTATIONS
Mark Robinson
The Tackle - Herald-Sun
02 April 2012


Hope Dustin Martin likes reading, for he should have a crack at the 2012 Champion Data Prospectus.

It states: "We all admire his ability to break a tackle, but he needs to improve when applying physical pressure himself, recording the worst tackling efficiency of any Richmond midfielder last season.''

It's probably the first public criticism of Martin since he bullocked his way into the Richmond team.

The second lot of public criticism came after the Tigers capitulated in the last quarter to Carlton last Thursday night.

His missed shot for goal, which would've put the Tigers within a point in the last quarter, was disappointing for a young man with a golden right foot. Yet it was his less than enthusiastic chase down of Carlton's Chris Yarran that drew the most attention.

Twice he thought Yarran was going to kick the ball and twice Yarran didn't and twice Martin was going through the motions with his chasing.

It's an area of his game that needs attention.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mark-robinson-geelong-was-arrogant-selfish-and-stupid-against-fremantle/story-fn5937w8-1226315830868

Nothing wrong with that.  All factually accurate.  Tackling efficiency is a good stat, I bet we're well down the table as a team in that stat and, as he points out, Dusty is our worst midfielder despite his strength that he shows when he has the ball.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 02, 2012, 10:56:17 AM
Robbo hasn't said anything that hasnt been discussed here. Does the truth hurt us that much or is it a case we're the only ones allowed to be critical ?

We had the momentum when Dusty lined up for that goal, it needed to be kicked, good players nail them. It was a massive miss for us in the context of the game; fact. To say he was "spent" as he took the kick is a pretty poor excuse


Being spent has lots to do with it.... Disco roach was on send lazy week discussing this.... Saying Richie and nick riewoldt missed many goals due to the fact they ran themselves to the ground... Fatigue does effect your kicking... Rich said he was so good of a kick because Royce hart helped him but more important he never kicked.tired... You all seem to forget how hard Martin ran prior to that kick ... He ain't superman
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 02, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Our midfielders in general don't run hard enough into defensive positions.  That's one of the reasons why our defenders get caught out.  We typically never have that extra get-out option.  Too many of our mids are running three quarter pace when the opposition are streaming forwards with the ball.

So true, so very very true
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 02, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Robbo hasn't said anything that hasnt been discussed here. Does the truth hurt us that much or is it a case we're the only ones allowed to be critical ?

We had the momentum when Dusty lined up for that goal, it needed to be kicked, good players nail them. It was a massive miss for us in the context of the game; fact. To say he was "spent" as he took the kick is a pretty poor excuse


Being spent has lots to do with it.... Disco roach was on send lazy week discussing this.... Saying Richie and nick riewoldt missed many goals due to the fact they ran themselves to the ground... Fatigue does effect your kicking... Rich said he was so good of a kick because Royce hart helped him but more important he never kicked.tired... You all seem to forget how hard Martin ran prior to that kick ... He ain't superman

nick riewoldt if fragile mentally. all players have to overcome the fatigue factor when kicking. the good ones overcome it.

The main critisim is not just that one poor kick, but martins lack of intensity when chasing and tackling. for someone who is so strong he tackles like a timid child.

if tackled with the intensity that nahas does he would lay some serious hurt and have players second guessing, but as it is i  doubt too many players would be afraid to take martin on when they have the ball. the smaller players easily avoid him and the stronger ones brush him aside.

for him to become the truly great player he has the potential to, he needs to change his mindset when we don't have the ball.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 07, 2012, 05:05:11 AM
Paul Roos says Richmond must tighten defence to defeat Collingwood

    Paul Roos
    From: Herald Sun
    April 07, 2012


COLLINGWOOD or Richmond will be winless after tonight's game and will start to come under scrutiny.

The Magpies are harder to judge because they have had an inconsistent lead-up to the season and have many players out of the team.

The Tigers, on the other hand, have had a perfect pre-season preparation and were disappointing against the Blues last week.

The Tigers will certainly improve, yet they still have significant flaws that were exposed by the Blues last week. Their talent does not run particularly deep, and their bottom five or six players are still young and developing.

Richmond's coaching staff will be acutely aware of their weaknesses and will address them each week.

A couple of damning flaws from Round 1 were that Richmond finished with 18 fewer inside-50s than Carlton, and were well beaten at the stoppages after quarter-time.

One of the most significant problems Richmond needs to overcome is a stronger commitment to defensive transition when the game starts to slip out of its grasp.

The Tigers have some great offensive midfielders who can cut teams up, but the query remains over whether they can shut down their direct opponents.

Dustin Martin, one of the competition's best young players, continually wins contested footy and often turns games single-handedly. Unquestionably, he is an amazing talent. But he has one glaring flaw in his game. If he is not winning the ball, he has little awareness of his opponent.

It is unfair to hang out a young player to dry over one incident, but his half-hearted chase on Chris Yarran was there for all to see. To be a complete footballer, he must develop a stronger commitment to the defensive side of his game.

Martin is not alone; it is common for young players coming into AFL football. They are mostly talented, great ball winners who have concentrated purely on the offensive aspect of their game as juniors.

Martin can learn, and tonight's match at the MCG is a tremendous opportunity to further his football education by assigning him a run-with role on one of the competition's top three midfielders - Scott Pendlebury.

Taking on such a challenge would do him and the Tigers the world of good and fast-track both his and the team's development.

Clearly Martin is not going to be a run-with player throughout his career. But if he is capable of doing so at stages, it will give him and the Tigers coaching staff considerable confidence.

It would be a fascinating duel to watch, as in many ways they are similar players. Both have a great mix of an inside and outside game.

Martin could go one-on-one at stoppages and win his share; he also has the speed and endurance to match Pendlebury on the open expanses of the MCG.

If Pendlebury goes forward, Martin should go with him. Martin is a decent height for a midfielder at 187cm, only marginally shorter than the Magpie. He is good overhead and uses his body well in man-on-man marking contests.

For Tiger fans who are used to seeing Martin dominate, the assignment would not be about one game - it would be about the bigger picture and how the Tigers can develop a team capable of winning a premiership.

If Martin could keep Pendlebury to five possessions a quarter, he would have done well; if the game ended with 15 possessions apiece, it would be a massive win for Richmond.

Another player whose role is worth reviewing is Brett Deledio.

The dilemma for coach Damien Hardwick is whether Deledio can develop into an elite midfielder or best serve the team rebounding off halfback.

Richmond's ball use out of its backline can be horrible, and only Deledio and skipper Chris Newman seem capable of delivering any consistent supply to players upfield.

Unlike Martin, Deledio has a strong defensive ethic and has done some exceptional shut-down jobs on elite footballers. The coaching staff trusts him to perform a run-with role or as a terrific rebounding defender.

Can he join Martin as a genuine midfielder who can dominate and turn games through his own actions?

Deledio turns 25 this month, putting him in his prime, and I'm sure Tigers fans would like to see him dominate stoppages and kick crucial game-breaking goals.

I believe he has the capacity to consistently get hold of the ball forward of centre and be recognised as a feared midfield general, such as Gary Ablett, Chris Judd, Dane Swan or Pendlebury.

The Tigers' most well-rounded player is Trent Cotchin. He is a coach's dream, a combination of both Martin and Deledio, and has a commitment to defence and an ability to win the game off his own boot.

The Tigers' coaching staff has done an outstanding job with Cotchin.

He is capable of playing off halfback and shutting down a dangerous forward. He can perform a run-with role through the midfield, or he can completely dominate a game as an offensive player.

In Round 1 he had 27 disposals, including 11 contested possessions, eight tackles, seven clearances and two goals. He is a star.

If Hardwick can develop Martin and Deledio as well-rounded midfielders such as Cotchin, it will help set the Tigers on the path towards the top half of the ladder.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/paul-roos-says-richmond-must-tighten-defence-to-defeat-collingwood/story-fnctrk3q-1226320756688
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on April 07, 2012, 07:38:51 AM
That a fair wrap on Lids comparing him to a Judd, Ablett etc.

It's an interesting proposition - 3 of the best mids in the comp with the right development is my take on that article.

That beats Carlton in R1 2013.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 07, 2012, 11:53:44 AM
That a fair wrap on Lids comparing him to a Judd, Ablett etc.

It's an interesting proposition - 3 of the best mids in the comp with the right development is my take on that article.

That beats Carlton in R1 2013.

The filth still have more than 3 of the best mids and their lower tier players have more of an impact than ours. Until we get more from our other mids and lower tier players and kids like Ellis, Conca, Batchelor, Helbig etc impact the game more thus forcing blokes like Jako Edwards Tuck etc on the outer permanently we will struggle.

Effort can get you somewhere but quality can take you further. Turn the effort into quality and then we can start talking about realistically beating teams like Hawthorn, filth, scums etc.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on April 07, 2012, 01:01:41 PM
Our midfield needs to click. When it does. It will be very good. Throw a developing Concs in there too.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 15, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
Still not at his best but better from Dusty yesterday after a quiet-ish first two rounds. Hopefully that burst out of the middle and long bomb is a sign of things to come   :bow.

I did love the timing of the don't argue he gave Tom McDonald right right in front of the MCC members. The poor Dees fans there would've been crying into their red and blue tartan blankets on what could have been  ;D.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2012, 05:07:26 AM
Here's the vision of Dusty's 'don't argue' from Saturday's win...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/440087/Dusty%20dont%20argue/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on April 16, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
this lad has some incrediable leg power. kicks 60 metres with a bent leg.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Danog on April 16, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Watched the first half again last night.  Martin was bloody shocking!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on April 16, 2012, 09:10:00 AM
He played 10 times better than Trengrove thier hero or Watts happening haha
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 16, 2012, 09:23:44 AM
my fave boy but im not happy this year
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on April 16, 2012, 02:51:38 PM
He's warming up. Started to show glimpses in the second half that he is running into form. He will have a huge game soon. Hopefully this week.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 16, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
Maybe they pushed him too hard in the preseason, prehaps we should have had the Carlton approach with our midfielders instead of that game against GC where we played the lot of them....and he did only miss one game in the presseason didn't he??

He just hasn't picked up where he left off last year, I think he may have to shed a couple of kilo's more, instead of being so bulky, maybe streamlining him would speed him up a bit...just a thought.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: JVT on April 16, 2012, 04:44:32 PM
Maybe they pushed him too hard in the preseason, prehaps we should have had the Carlton approach with our midfielders instead of that game against GC where we played the lot of them....and he did only miss one game in the presseason didn't he??

He just hasn't picked up where he left off last year, I think he may have to shed a couple of kilo's more, instead of being so bulky, maybe streamlining him would speed him up a bit...just a thought.
I don't think speed is his issue, have a look at his burst from the middle in the 3rd.

Fitness on the other hand can be improved. Just think he is out of form at the moment, but oozes class when he gets going.  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 16, 2012, 05:09:04 PM
Maybe they pushed him too hard in the preseason, prehaps we should have had the Carlton approach with our midfielders instead of that game against GC where we played the lot of them....and he did only miss one game in the presseason didn't he??

He just hasn't picked up where he left off last year, I think he may have to shed a couple of kilo's more, instead of being so bulky, maybe streamlining him would speed him up a bit...just a thought.
I don't think speed is his issue, have a look at his burst from the middle in the 3rd.

Fitness on the other hand can be improved. Just think he is out of form at the moment, but oozes class when he gets going.  :cheers

Yeah would have to agree, fitness does need to improve and defensive side of his game.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 16, 2012, 05:14:32 PM
He's so good he can pull poo off without even trying.
Unfortunately this s a sign of his inherently casual nature which could be the thing that makes or breaks him.
Could be better than Judd.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on April 16, 2012, 07:39:19 PM
IIRC there was a comment from Dimma, i think in his after-Carlton press conference that they may have been running him too long and they would monitor his time on ground more conservatively. Suggests that either the fitness staff were asleep at the wheel or the coaching staff were not listening. Good to hear anyway and Saturday was better. Mind you it was helped a lot by the second tier standing up so well.   
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 16, 2012, 07:41:23 PM
yeah, i think he mentioned something about how martin doesnt take himself off when he was knackered
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 17, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Reckon he turned the corner in the second half. My money is on him having an impact this week against the cats. This kid will be one of the biggest matchwinners/gamebreakers in the afl if he keeps his head on his shoulders. From what Ive heard hes almost maniacal in his quest to keep improving both with training and learning. Off his own bat he goes and watches games live specifically to see how elite midfielders from other clubs work and where they run. Having a bad patch but he'll come good
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on April 17, 2012, 12:05:50 AM
Just re-watched the third quarter of Dees match again on the AFL site. After Dusty kicked his running goal from outside 50, as he turned and celebrated he grabbed the guernsey to show everyone. The bloke bleeds the footy club. Tiger for life  :gotigers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on April 17, 2012, 12:19:08 AM
The next Brad Green?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 17, 2012, 02:56:29 AM
Just re-watched the third quarter of Dees match again on the AFL site. After Dusty kicked his running goal from outside 50, as he turned and celebrated he grabbed the guernsey to show everyone. The bloke bleeds the footy club. Tiger for life  :gotigers

maybe he was trying to take it off.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 17, 2012, 06:44:18 AM
The next Brad Green?

Ewk, a little bit of vomit in the back of my mouth...

Could never stand when he did that,
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 17, 2012, 09:23:33 AM
The next Brad Green?

Ewk, a little bit of vomit in the back of my mouth...

Could never stand when he did that,

Like when they were 10 goals up against the suns lmfao
Reckon dusty was taking the pee out off the dee
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 17, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
The next Brad Green?

Ewk, a little bit of vomit in the back of my mouth...

Could never stand when he did that,

Exactly Brad Green kicking peey little goals when the team in 15 goals up and tugging at the emblem of a jumper is akin to watching your mates getting into a brawl and then saying did you see when we backed them into the corner and they ran off.
Brad Green = Downhill skier.

Brad Green does not have one molecule in his body similar to Dusty's.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 17, 2012, 08:24:24 PM
The next Brad Green?

Ewk, a little bit of vomit in the back of my mouth...

Could never stand when he did that,

Like when they were 10 goals up against the suns lmfao
Reckon dusty was taking the pee out off the dee

Was against the Crows in fact at the 20 minute mark of the last quarter. :ROTFL
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on April 17, 2012, 08:58:45 PM
Just re-watched the third quarter of Dees match again on the AFL site. After Dusty kicked his running goal from outside 50, as he turned and celebrated he grabbed the guernsey to show everyone. The bloke bleeds the footy club. Tiger for life  :gotigers

maybe he was trying to take it off.

Maybe he gives a dump. Surprised?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 17, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Hope he's working on his defensive ethic.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on April 17, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
Hope he's working on his defensive ethic.

...and endurance
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2012, 08:47:41 PM
VIDEO: Dusty interviewed in the rooms after the game ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/447048/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 10, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
Dusty brings up his 50th on Saturday  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 10, 2012, 08:20:23 PM
who has had a bigger impact on us in their first 50 games.... maybe richo but thats it, rioli yes but he came with experiernce
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 10, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
who has had a bigger impact on us in their first 50 games....

Richard Tambling or Aaron Fiora.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 11, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
Congratulations to him. Need a big game from him. Reckon he is just on the edge of having a massive game hopefully it is against the swans
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 11, 2012, 09:42:20 AM
Martin + first two picks -> port

Richmond -> butcher

 :bow :bow
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: cub on May 11, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
^ Rofl

 :clapping Dusty

and up against Jack who is a few years ahead dev wise, great match up. Try not to hurt him too much Dustin.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 11, 2012, 10:48:19 AM
who has had a bigger impact on us in their first 50 games.... maybe richo but thats it, rioli yes but he came with experiernce

Cogga
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 11, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
Yep
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 12, 2012, 04:47:57 AM
who has had a bigger impact on us in their first 50 games.... maybe richo but thats it, rioli yes but he came with experiernce

Cogga
Matty Knights would be right up there. He was averaging 25 possies per game by his 3rd year (less than 50 AFL games).

Congrats to Dusty btw  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on May 12, 2012, 10:03:02 AM
Ah what can i say about the kid he is just  a pure talent that damages teams on the scoreboard hard to get a kid at 20 to do that dusty does it regularly when he does rotate forward. I think deledio and cotchin will  be tagged  pretty hard from now on they are too damaging this year (especially deledio) time to  really stamp yourself buddy  you are pure class and going to cause a lot of coaches sleepless nights i just  worry about our salary cap further down the track  the kid is going  to be hard to keep after 8 years you would have to have rocks in your head  not to throw the kitchen sink at him i can see the boy winning a brownlow he just  is amazing especially the way  he goes about life in general  his attitude his non egoness ( JR you reading this? ) If and i mean if  the boy stays loyal  and injury free ( his karma says he will ) we are set he is a once in a generation footballer and i am in awe of what the bloke will down the track  the sky is the limit  for him last years  5 goal 30 odd possie haul  is something he can set regularly when he hits prime . I seriously think we wont see the best of martin until Deledio or Cotchin goes down with long term injury and he will hit another level i must admit my love for ivan  is huge at the moment but  dustin you are the man   well perhaps you and cotch   :laugh:
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 12, 2012, 10:58:16 AM
I seriously think we wont see the best of martin until Deledio or Cotchin goes down with long term injury and he will hit another level

Wash your stuffing mouth out you lunatic
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 12, 2012, 11:01:08 AM
sheesh...you wanna see the best of martin at the expense of cotch and lids..isnt that from the Donald rumsfeld school of logic?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on May 12, 2012, 11:09:31 AM
expecting a injury free cotchin gerks ( actually you never said that sorry )  the way he goes in and the  treatment he gets off the ball says the great man  will  endure  a few broken  bones in my eyes  over the next 4 or 5 years but i do agree i am being negative but we do have to brace for injury and i fear one of our stars will cop something i still can feel the pain watching richo in his heightened powers trying to come to a sudden stop on the scg boundary do i want to relive it no will i feel that again  most likely
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
VIDEO: We recap the short but action-packed career of Dustin Martin and speak to the man himself

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/452829/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 24, 2012, 04:53:19 PM
Lids is a good cook. Seems to be a bit of a leader more than I actually thought he was  :-\
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2012, 05:10:16 AM
Dusty's goalkicking accuracy is way off this year for some reason. Last year he kicked 33.14 (70%); this year it's 8.13 (38%). If he wants to join Cotch and Lids as A-grade status he needs to kick those momentum building gettable goals he was kicking last year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 26, 2012, 09:28:49 AM
Yep he's missed some sitters this year which is unlike him... We all know he can kick it a mile but I've seen him completely mistime some kicks so that they barely travel 50, almost like he's trying to kick it too hard, no timing
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2012, 02:10:08 AM
Catch 22: Footy's greatest trademarks

    Warwick Green
    From: Herald Sun
    May 31, 2012


There are certain footballers you equate with a move, a style, a moment. They are so synonymous with some aspect of their football career that it becomes their signature move or look.

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/05/30/1226372/158415-dustin-martin.jpg)

15. DUSTIN MARTIN'S FEND-OFF
They call it the don't argue, and it is a move more frequently associated with rugby league than Australian football. Ever since he burst on to the scene, Richmond's Dustin Martin has had a tendency to stiff-arm the chest of approaching tacklers, often leaving them lying on the turf as he departs the scene. His coach, Damien Hardwick, told SuperFooty in 2010: "Probably the one thing he does do too much of is when he's out in space he'll actually go looking for the contact to give that don't argue sometimes.''

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/gallery-e6frf9o6-1226372175233?page=15
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 31, 2012, 03:25:07 PM
Dusty is straight up choking that gimp out!  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 31, 2012, 03:56:07 PM
He's a tough man to tackle if he knows your coming. Just too strong with his don't argues and twist of the hips. He finds time space in congested situations through strength rather than by dodgy tactics like dropping the head and playing for a free. Its why he will always be a crucial part of our midfield.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2012, 02:59:11 AM
Ralph Carr drives new deal for Dustin Martin

    Mark Stevens, Jon Ralph
    From: Sunday Herald Sun
    June 03, 2012



EMERGING Richmond superstar Dustin Martin has switched management groups, with key contract talks looming on the horizon.

The 90 days Martin was forced to serve in limbo after leaving the Phoenix group expired this week and he has joined Travis Cloke at Ralph Carr Management's sports division.

Martin's Tigers contract, struck by Ricky Nixon before his client list was taken over by Phoenix, runs out at the end of next season.

Richmond is believed to be keen to get moving on a new deal, possibly as long as five years to match the length of Brett Deledio's contract.

But it is unlikely his new agent RCM Sport will be rushed given the potential upside for Martin and the Tigers at the back end of the season.

RCM Sport is also working on endorsement deals for Martin, with the midfielder telling the Sunday Herald Sun: "They have shown total commitment to me and all aspects of my career.

"I am very excited about my future being a part of Ralph's team."

Long-term deals are back in vogue, underlined again this week by Bomber Patrick Ryder signing for four years, and Martin is hot property.

Carr said of Martin's arrival: "We are thrilled to be representing Dustin who, at 20 years of age, looks poised to be a superstar of the game."

Martin was the Tigers' first selection (No.3) in the 2009 draft and finished third in Richmond's best and fairest award last season.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/ralph-carr-drives-new-deal-for-dustin-martin/story-fndjdrxt-1226381355458
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 09, 2012, 07:11:45 PM
Where was Martin today? Still minding that kid I suppose ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 10:18:21 PM
Where was Martin today? Still minding that kid I suppose ::)

His disposal was deplorable today. Had no impact. None whatsoever. Tried too many don't argues surrounded by 3 and 4 Dockers.

Has alot of work to do, has been pedestrian at times this year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on June 09, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
I think he will be a gem but this year has stalled.

hardly impacts games and his disposal. WTF. Cant stand some of these short side kicks he attempts

Has a bit of the Cyril rioli's about him, good in patches then you dont see him for 2 quarters



Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 10:27:10 PM
As I Have said in another thread. Disposal is terrible, tries to kick the skin off the footy rather than caress it naturally onto his boot and tries to use the don't argue too much when surrounded by opponents. Its almost as if he is craving the contact rather than trying to evade it. Has hardly impacted games this year and Foley Cotch and Lids and to a lesser extent Grigg have had more impact on games than Dusty has. Has alot of work to do.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ekto on June 09, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
Where was Martin today? Still minding that kid I suppose ::)

His disposal was deplorable today.
What do you mean TODAY?

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
Where was Martin today? Still minding that kid I suppose ::)

His disposal was deplorable today.
What do you mean TODAY?

Today's game with Freo and on many other occassions this season also.
What do you mean Ekto?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 09, 2012, 11:08:43 PM
Has been a let down so far this imo. Has had some stunning moments but also goes awol for periods.
Is not the only one in boat however
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
His stagnation worries me. It's as if we have seen him at his best season 2010-11 and this year his consistency has wavered. We haven't seen any of those matchwinning games of the ilk of Nought Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney like we did last year for instance.

Whereas the performances of Cotch, Foley, Lids, Grigg have been the difference to us winning.
It seems he is labouring slightly at the moment and is suffering growing pains. Needs to get over this quickly and re-establish his authority on games of football.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ekto on June 09, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
Where was Martin today? Still minding that kid I suppose ::)

His disposal was deplorable today.
What do you mean TODAY?

Today's game with Freo and on many other occassions this season also.
What do you mean Ekto?
What do you mean TODAY?

Pretty simple question really.

Today is not the only time his disposal has been questioned.

Still learning the caper though, but I wonder whether a kick up the backside with a threat to give him a game at Coburg might improve his willingness to do the hard stuff.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
I've moved all the Martin discussion in the Freo thread to here so it doesn't get lost within the general game discussion.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 09, 2012, 11:42:33 PM
There are allot more players on our list we should be worried about before Dusty! Carry on......
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 11:49:55 PM
Ekto,
To answer this question
I'm questioning his disposal openly on this forum for the first time TODAY although it has been noticeable to me that it has not been upto scratch all year.

Scrubby kick on along the ground in the first that turned over the ball and got Pav his bouncy goal in the first. Kick in the third where we had momentum and the ball went 30 metres after he had broken clear. Critical time in the game after Cotch had given us the lead. Plenty of times in the last and throughout the game but more noticeably in the last rather than put boot to ball too many times trying to fend off players and looking for contact rather than keeping it simple in conditions like these.

The kid came here with huge raps and has broken games open with his presence strength and kicking  hence my reference to a few games last year where he was the clear and undisputed matchwinner.

I don't think he will be going to Coburg that's just reactionary to think when dealing with a player of his ability just give him a rocket and put the ball back in his court and hope the kid responds.

As for learning the caper this kid is a ready made footballer. He should know better. WIll be a star suffering growing pains atm.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 09, 2012, 11:53:12 PM
If stuffn ivan let dustys 55m bomb go thou it might have turned out different
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
If stuffn ivan let dustys 55m bomb go thou it might have turned out different

OK lets say he did that's one point we would not have got and one goal extra to our score so we would lost 10 11 71 to 12 6 78. We'd still be here bitching. Only difference our % would be slightly higher.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2012, 12:00:33 AM
Form and confidence are funny things but.

Might have got dustys tail up.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 10, 2012, 09:03:44 AM
Why the eff would you kick with ouside o
f the boot with your right foot when you kick on the left as well as martin can?  :banghead

I thought marin had improved his workrate and pressre/tackling in the last couple of months, yesterday he went missing big time.

He still has a lot to work on to become the player he potentially can.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on June 10, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
A positive I noticed though was at stoppages he was trying to harrass and block Crowley so Deledio could get a run at it
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on June 10, 2012, 08:40:52 PM
needed him step up in Foleys absence
started off like a bull at a gate as did the
team in the first quarter.

2 speeds at the moment with Dusty
great in patches and average in longer
patches in games, needs to find that
next level.

oh and too much cute rubbish...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2012, 12:39:13 PM
Tiger's teeth cut in Giants' backyard

    Malcolm Conn
    The Daily Telegraph
    June 16, 2012


RICHMOND young gun Dustin Martin has played more Australian football in western Sydney than most of the GWS Giants who will oppose him at Skoda Stadium today.

Not that the robust Tigers midfielder considers himself a Sydneysider after spending one of his formative seasons with the Campbelltown Blues.

But such is the cosmopolitan nature of newly-formed GWS that only a handful of the current list played in the Giants development team out of Blacktown last season. The rest were drafted in from around the country over summer.

Two of those players from last season, the bigger-bodied duo of Israel Folau and Jonathan Giles, have been ruled out amid a string of injuries, further weakening the Giants.

At least another NSW player, Sam Schulz, 20, from the tiny Riverina town of Culcairn, will play his first AFL game today along with number one draft pick Jonathan Patton, bringing to 29 the number of AFL debutants used by the Giants already this season.

Every one of them can be inspired by Martin, one of the AFL draft's good news stories.

He has played 54 of a possible 55 games for Richmond, kicking 56 goals, since being taken third in the 2009 draft, creating the foundations for an A Grade midfield along with vice-captain Trent Cotchin, 22. From his first game as an 18-year-old Martin was a boy who played like a man, fending off seasoned opponents and doing hard work in heavy traffic.

His approach to life mirrors his approach to football, straightforward and uncomplicated.

This is not surprising given Martin has been mixing it with men on and off the field since he was 15.

The son of a Maori father and Australian mother who separated, Martin dropped out of school in year nine and moved from Castlemaine in central Victoria to Sydney so he could work in his father's trucking business.

"I missed dad and decided to go up there and live with him for a year," Martin told The Daily Telegraph.

He enjoyed the time with his father, who will be at Skoda Stadium with his mates today watching his son go around.

The work, however, was a harsh dose of reality and Martin now regrets leaving school so young.

"It was pretty s*** to be honest," he said. "It wasn't fun at all.

"I was getting up at five in the morning and getting home at six o'clock at night. The semis came in early in the morning. You had to unload all of them then load them back up.

"There were trucks coming in throughout the day you had to unload and load and sort out pallets. It was just boring. I wasn't at school with my mates, where I'd rather have been.

"It was just a silly mistake I made to leave school. I did a bit of study but that never lasted.

"I wasn't really interested in it.

"I worked for a few different people here and there labouring - all that boring stuff."

One of his outlets was playing football. He was a standout as a 15-year-old playing with Campbelltown in the under 18s, trying out for the NSW/ACT Rams and playing a senior game at the end of the season.

A combination of family, football and mates drew Martin back to Castlemaine after a year.

Given his limited options he put his heart and soul into football, playing with the desperation of a young man who wanted to make something of his life.

Martin was terrified he would not be drafted but had no need to be concerned. Ten clubs spoke to him and Richmond pounced early.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-teeth-cut-in-giants-backyard/story-e6frexwr-1226397104774
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Don't know what has happened to Dusty's goalkicking this year. It's been way off. He's kicked 12.18 now after another 3 behinds today. Last year he kicked 33.14.  He's contributing in general play but his influence on games has fallen away because he hasn't been able to break games open kicking a bag of 3 from the midfield.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 16, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
Must be told to be happy with beating one contested situation and releasing the ball. Too many times he tries to take on a crowd.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 16, 2012, 05:16:38 PM
Must be told to be happy with beating one contested situation and releasing the ball. Too many times he tries to take on a crowd.

This I agree with. Noticed it last week.

Don't know what has happened to Dusty's goalkicking this year. It's been way off. He's kicked 12.18 now after another 3 behinds today. Last year he kicked 33.14.  He's contributing in general play but his influence on games has fallen away because he hasn't been able to break games open kicking a bag of 3 from the midfield.

More contributors now and Dusty hasn't stepped up. He's had more chances to impose himself of the scoreboard but he seems to want to do the brilliant all the time and kick the skin off the ball rather than keeping it simple and kicking it flowingly and naturally. It seems to me he played his best game for the year in the pre season in Geelong and although he has been good it has been in patches this year. He is much better than this and he needs to refocus. He can start off by getting back to basics and keeping it simple.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ekto on June 16, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
Don't know what has happened to Dusty's goalkicking this year.
I do.

He doesn't concentrate on kicking through the ball.

He just throws it on the boot.

Spectacular at times, but not reliable.

He'll learn though, I hope.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on June 16, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
Don't know what has happened to Dusty's goalkicking this year.
I do.

He doesn't concentrate on kicking through the ball.

He just throws it on the boot.

Spectacular at times, but not reliable.

He'll learn though, I hope.

IMHO hes all too often trying to kick the cover off it and his timing is now out of whack, not to mention his confidence has taken a beating. Ive seen him shank a few this year when hes tried to kill the ball! on other (admitedly fewer)occassions Ive seen him stab it nonchalantly 55 through the goals mid height.

Needs to work through it and come out of it a better player hopefully. Good thing is his efforts are there, hes really trying, almost too hard..  30 shots on goal half way through the season for a midfielder is not bloody bad at all, if he had 18.12 the experts would be lauding him. He'll be right
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
Dusty is 21 today  :birthday
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on June 26, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Dusty needs to turn on a big one against the Crows this week. 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 26, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Dusty needs to turn on a big one against the Crows this week.

Sure does. The Crow youngsters have upstaged him this year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 26, 2012, 04:04:27 PM
Dusty needs to turn on a big one against the Crows this week.
Dusty's getting the ball as much as last year but he needs to kick straight for starters to hurt the Crows on the scoreboard where it counts.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
Dustin back in town
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Mon 02 Jul, 2012


The form of dynamic young midfielder Dustin Martin was one of the main positives for Richmond out of last Saturday’s match against the Adelaide Crows.

Martin, who looked lively throughout, finished with 23 disposals (15 kicks, eight handballs), four marks and three goals.

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/140179/default.aspx

VIDEO: Highlights of Dusty's 3 goals against the Crows...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/464889/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 02, 2012, 09:15:13 PM
Need more of this if you want to win games week in and week out.

Would love to see him demolish nought in a few weeks
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 03, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Need more of this if you want to win games week in and week out.

Would love to see him demolish nought in a few weeks

A repeat game like his 2011 round 5 pearler against Nought will be more than adequate. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 03, 2012, 10:20:12 PM
Would love to see boomer cop a fend off to the throat and watch james gayshaw swallow his own vomit in the stands. I hate nought, what a rabble club. Even in our 30 years of mediocrity they have struggled to produce more than a couple of premierships. We have bent over for them and let them smash us countless times and you know what?

They still have no supporters, no hope, no good sponsors. 3 home grounds, a wanker president and they're best player is about to retire. Anything else tuck??
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 03, 2012, 10:55:46 PM
no money
no fans
no character
no soul
no heart
no originality
no relevance
no inspiration
no footy board
no ceo
no idea
no clue
no respect
no identity
no stability
no ambition
no aura
no good
no mettle
no spine
no guts
no hope
no flair
no future
no kidding.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 03, 2012, 10:58:59 PM
and they can beat us
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on July 03, 2012, 11:03:23 PM
and they can beat us

thats the only thing that i give a flying fu.. about

lose to them and the joke is on us

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 04, 2012, 12:19:49 AM
and they can beat us

thats the only thing that i give a flying fu.. about

lose to them and the joke is on us

Yep it would be as funny as half your posts :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on July 04, 2012, 06:29:04 PM
Surprised none of you are barking about Dusty, his let the supporters down just as much as other players.
l'm very disppointed in Dusty & he needs more than a kick up the ass.  :banghead
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 04, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

You are unbelievable

that's all I will say
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 04, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
 :nope
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 04, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

sometimes you go too far
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 04, 2012, 06:57:51 PM
Surprised none of you are barking about Dusty, his let the supporters down just as much as other players.
l'm very disppointed in Dusty & he needs more than a kick up the ass.  :banghead

x2
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 04, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
What I was told today makes me think it might be a good idea
Club will never come out and tell the truth.
Maybe a few of you people should go to nightclubs like CQ in the city
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on July 04, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

sometimes you go too far


"Shh, Commodus."
(http://www.brainresidue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/you-go-too-far-commodus1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 04, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
This thread has turned into a disgrace.

It didn't have to happen, but certain inbreds couldn't resist.

Shame on you  >:(

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 04, 2012, 07:01:42 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.

Pretty sure it's not a first offence TM but I agree with your last bit - I'll be judging him on how he responds to this and not just over the rest of the season.  To me, his history is now saying "I need to make changes that will only become credible after a few seasons".
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on July 04, 2012, 07:05:25 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.

Fair enough too. Everyone deserves a chance. Connors blew his.
Hope Martin learns the lesson.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on July 04, 2012, 07:09:50 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.

Fair enough too. Everyone deserves a chance.

Bloody oath. We all make mistakes, it's how we deal with them.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 04, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
What I was told today makes me think it might be a good idea
Club will never come out and tell the truth.
Maybe a few of you people should go to nightclubs like CQ in the city

From what I'm told, what you are implying is common - in and outside of football clubs.
Ya nuffa
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 04, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

You are unbelievable

that's all I will say

Agree one of the worst posts ever posted on this site. ::)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 04, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.

Fair enough too. Everyone deserves a chance.

Bloody oath. We all make mistakes, it's how we deal with them.

Agree with this lets see how he responds against Nought and the rest of the season.
He owes the club and his teammates massively.
Would hate to lose the next two or one of the next two and have some find their scapegoat(s).
I am certain he will respond positively.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 04, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

You are unbelievable

that's all I will say

Agree one of the worst posts ever posted on this site. ::)

Yep .i agree worst post ever
Like the RFC press conference today
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 04, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out

You are unbelievable

that's all I will say

Agree one of the worst posts ever posted on this site. ::)

Yep .i agree worst post ever
Like the RFC press conference today

Don't change the subject Jack. Poor form pal.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 04, 2012, 07:49:46 PM
Explain why it's poor form
I can't wait for your response
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 04, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Explain why it's poor form
I can't wait for your response

You just had a go at Dusty Jack now you are having a go at the presser or have I interpreted wrong Jack? Just asking.

IMHO based on the facts they have presented to the media they have dealt with it well and got rid of Connors and sanctioned Dusty and deservedly so. Nothing more nothing less.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on July 04, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Honestly
Kid is a bogan
Would consider a trade
Might be too hard to maintain
Club is aware of issues as he lived with Gary March for 2 years to keep an eye on him
Recently moved out


You are unbelievable

that's all I will say

Agree one of the worst posts ever posted on this site. ::)

Yep .i agree worst post ever
Like the RFC press conference today

Don't change the subject Jack. Poor form pal.

Bloody disgaceful i would have thought  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 04, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
To be honest jack hasnt said anything earth shattering.the lad has goofed up,jack believes there are ongoing issues..well Dusty its time to shut your critics up
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2012, 08:02:11 PM
Very dissapointing, hope its not a sign of things to come. Ill give him a get out of jail free card as this is a first offence, the way he responds to this is what ill judge him on.

Pretty sure it's not a first offence TM but I agree with your last bit - I'll be judging him on how he responds to this and not just over the rest of the season.  To me, his history is now saying "I need to make changes that will only become credible after a few seasons".

x 2

Agree with you both - it's what he does from here that matters
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 04, 2012, 08:03:07 PM
amongst the carnage of this week any chance Foley will play?..lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 04, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
amongst the carnage of this week any chance Foley will play?..lol
I never liked that ridiculous tattoo on his neck. It showed a character flaw AFAIC. 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on July 04, 2012, 08:24:17 PM
I never liked that ridiculous tattoo on his neck. It showed a character flaw AFAIC.

Oi, what's wrong with neck tats  >:(


 :outtahere
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on July 04, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
i gather Robbo might know more
than has been stated, found some
of his questions interesting today to
CC.

lets hope its laid to rest or until
the Hun's Back page story
with what really happened according
to club or industry sources.. :police:
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 04, 2012, 09:26:50 PM
i gather Robbo might know more
than has been stated, found some
of his questions interesting today to
CC.

lets hope its laid to rest or until
the Hun's Back page story
with what really happened according
to club or industry sources.. :police:

I'm sure our very own jack will give them the inside word  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on July 04, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
To be honest jack hasnt said anything earth shattering.the lad has goofed up,jack believes there are ongoing issues..well Dusty its time to shut your critics up

agree.

some people dont want to know the truth.

He has had poor form this year. why? By the answer to some questions today chances are it wasnt his first slip up.

If he doesnt pull his finger out whats wrong with putting him up and getting 2 first rounders.


edited for legal reasons. Which part of previous warnings/requests don't you understand? You cannot post rumors or inneuendo when you have no proof. For the final time keep it off the forum
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on July 04, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
i gather Robbo might know more
than has been stated, found some
of his questions interesting today to
CC.

lets hope its laid to rest or until
the Hun's Back page story
with what really happened according
to club or industry sources.. :police:

I'm sure our very own jack will give them the inside word  :shh

ah Jack is just been Jack it aint fun
if you cant throw around some gossip
and innuendo.. :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
Have posted this on other threads but really folks  :banghead :banghead :banghead

Which part of previous warnings/requests don't you understand?

 You cannot post rumors or inneuendo when you have no proof. For the final time keep it off the forum

I understand people don't agree. I also understand think that we over react but the legal advice we have received is very simply and straight forward

If you don't have proof then it cannot stay and shouldn't be posted.

Can we make it any clearer?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 04, 2012, 09:46:48 PM
it was just a guess,Willy.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
it was just a guess,Willy.

Guess? Hmmmmmm

It was about what your guess implies
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 04, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
it's probable that it went down differently....if that helps. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2012, 09:50:59 PM
it's probable that it went down differently....if that helps. :thumbsup

 :rollin :rollin

 :nope :nope
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 05, 2012, 05:05:36 AM
Let's post some facts
He got 2 weeks suspension for sleeping in and arriving late at  training and missing a session
What an awful crime
Yeah right RFC
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 05, 2012, 05:13:42 AM
Let's post some facts
He got 2 weeks suspension for sleeping in and arriving late at  training and missing a session
What an awful crime
Yeah right RFC
Taking non-prescribed medication (sleeping pills) from a 'friend' would've been the main offence as far as the Club saw. As a footballer you don't put anything in your mouth you don't know exactly what it is and where it is from while all medication should be cleared by the Club doctor.   
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 05, 2012, 06:20:00 AM
Let's post some facts
He got 2 weeks suspension for sleeping in and arriving late at  training and missing a session
What an awful crime
Yeah right RFC
Taking non-prescribed medication (sleeping pills) from a 'friend' would've been the main offence as far as the Club saw. As a footballer you don't put anything in your mouth you don't know exactly what it is and where it is from while all medication should be cleared by the Club doctor.   
And then combining them with alcohol is the height of stupidity (no matter what his motivation). It can be deadly.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: eliminator on July 05, 2012, 06:46:19 AM
Wouldn't a fine have been better. A fine can have a deterrent effect. It also hurts the player rather than the team. It was his first breach of the club rules some leniency is required. However I understand by suspending him the club wants to send a firm message and I am guessing here but believe the club thought that if he is suspended his teammates will get stuck into more for letting down the team
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 05, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
so the afl have tested martin for illicit drugs? Under their policy of non disclosure, even if the sleeping tablets had been taken to counter some form of upper, we will never know about it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: JVT on July 05, 2012, 08:59:10 AM
so the afl have tested martin for illicit drugs? Under their policy of non disclosure, even if the sleeping tablets had been taken to counter some form of upper, we will never know about it.
We'll know about it if he gets to 3 strikes . . . Personally I think this will be 'wake up call' this boy needs (no pun intended) to go on and be a superstar. Removed that 'cancerous' type 'friend' of his in Connors (best news from yesterday), couple that with the 2 weeks suspension and the actual kick up the backside his dad will give him, AFL watch out  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 05, 2012, 09:13:35 AM
so the afl have tested martin for illicit drugs? Under their policy of non disclosure, even if the sleeping tablets had been taken to counter some form of upper, we will never know about it.
We'll know about it if he gets to 3 strikes . . . Personally I think this will be 'wake up call' this boy needs (no pun intended) to go on and be a superstar. Removed that 'cancerous' type 'friend' of his in Connors (best news from yesterday), couple that with the 2 weeks suspension and the actual kick up the backside his dad will give him, AFL watch out  :shh
i'm sure this will be significant in this kids wake up call.

You shouldve seen what happened when dusty didn't want to make his dad some eggs for breakfast...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on July 05, 2012, 10:16:51 AM
You shouldve seen what happened when dusty didn't want to make his dad some eggs for breakfast...

 :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2012, 10:53:49 PM
Dusty is travelling up with the team this week.

Tiger in exile to travel north with team
afl.com.au
Tue 10 Jul, 2012


BANNED Tiger Dustin Martin - who is serving a club suspension after taking sleeping pills and missing a Monday training session - will travel to Cairns on Thursday when Richmond heads north to take on Gold Coast.

Martin has been allowed to join the team, despite being in the middle of a two-week club suspension.

Richmond midfielder Shaun Grigg revealed on Tuesday that Martin would make the trip.

"He's in at the club this week, training hard," Grigg said.

"He's going to come to Cairns, so it's good for him to be back.

"He just loves being around the boys and he's a very valuable player for us, so we're looking forward to getting him back in a couple of weeks."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141081/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 10, 2012, 10:57:26 PM
He will play ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on July 10, 2012, 11:20:40 PM
He will play ;)

that would be the media managers
nightmare right there.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 10, 2012, 11:21:26 PM
He will play ;)

that would be the media managers
nightmare right there.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on July 11, 2012, 03:55:07 AM
imagine if we lost by a kick with Dusty in the stands media will eat this poo  for 3 days
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 19, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
Out of interest, Luke Hodge did something similar to Dusty when he turned 21 ....


Luke Hodge (Hawthorn - 2005)
The crime: Slept in and missed a morning training session following his 21st birthday celebrations.
The punishment: One-match suspension.
Comeback game: 24 touches in Hawthorn's 10-point loss to Adelaide at Aurora Stadium.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141889/default.aspx


Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 19, 2012, 03:13:41 PM
I hope that's not an omen that we'll lose... Bury that stat back in the box OE  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 19, 2012, 03:14:47 PM
Out of interest, Luke Hodge did something similar to Dusty when he turned 21 ....


Luke Hodge (Hawthorn - 2005)
The crime: Slept in and missed a morning training session following his 21st birthday celebrations.
The punishment: One-match suspension.
Comeback game: 24 touches in Hawthorn's 10-point loss to Adelaide at Aurora Stadium.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141889/default.aspx

Closet Richmond supporter
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 19, 2012, 05:34:01 PM
I hope that's not an omen that we'll lose... Bury that stat back in the box OE  ;D
I'll just ignore that last bit  ;D

I wouldn't mind Dusty repeating his 33 possies and 4 goals from last year again North :yep
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 19, 2012, 05:36:29 PM
VIDEO: Dustin Martin opens up to @MattRicho0 about his past two weeks and says he "can't wait" to play this Sunday

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/470650/default.aspx


Martin opens up
richmondfc.com.au
5:24 PM Thu 19 Jul, 2012


Richmond young gun, Dustin Martin, is both remorseful and excited, as he prepares for his return from a Club-imposed two-match suspension, against North Melbourne at the MCG on Sunday.

In an exclusive ‘Roar Vision’ interview, Martin revealed his feelings to Tiger great, Matthew Richardson . . .

“I can’t wait . . . it feels like a month since I’ve played.  Been training with the boys the last couple of weeks and just really looking forward to getting back out there,” he said.

“It was pretty hard . . . I was just really disappointed in myself that I let the whole club down - all the boys and the coaches.

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/142020/default.aspx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 19, 2012, 06:03:55 PM
I hope that's not an omen that we'll lose... Bury that stat back in the box OE  ;D
I'll just ignore that last bit  ;D

I wouldn't mind Dusty repeating his 33 possies and 4 goals from last year again North :yep
When was the last time he had 30 or more ?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on July 19, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
imagine if we lost by a kick with Dusty in the stands media will eat this poo  for 3 days

Especially if its after the siren............. :birthday
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 19, 2012, 07:39:09 PM
I hope that's not an omen that we'll lose... Bury that stat back in the box OE  ;D
I'll just ignore that last bit  ;D

I wouldn't mind Dusty repeating his 33 possies and 4 goals from last year again North :yep
When was the last time he had 30 or more ?
Dusty had 32 and kicked 2 goals against the Hawks this year.

Sunday would be a good time for Dusty to regain his kicking eye in front of the big sticks. He's due to deliver a bag after a wayward season so far.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on July 19, 2012, 09:18:43 PM
Dusty's going to be a hermit from here on.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 20, 2012, 06:34:18 AM
I hope that's not an omen that we'll lose... Bury that stat back in the box OE  ;D

Be happy if it means Dusty ends up as good as Hodge though.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on July 20, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
wake up sleepy head. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 21, 2012, 12:16:00 AM
Needs to lift his defensive side 90% this week for any serious chance of redemption.

A real test of character.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on July 21, 2012, 01:10:45 AM
Dusty's going to be a hermit from here on.

Now where have I heard that before?  :whistle
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on July 23, 2012, 07:44:50 PM
Out of interest, Luke Hodge did something similar to Dusty when he turned 21 ....


Luke Hodge (Hawthorn - 2005)
The crime: Slept in and missed a morning training session following his 21st birthday celebrations.
The punishment: One-match suspension.
Comeback game: 24 touches in Hawthorn's 10-point loss to Adelaide at Aurora Stadium.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141889/default.aspx

Very similar...
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 24, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
Needs to lift his defensive side 90% this week for any serious chance of redemption.

A real test of character.

thought his defensive efforts were good on the weekend. made one long chase early on that i doubt he wouldnt have made before this poo
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 27, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
From Ch7's Tom Browne's twitter

Interview with Dusty Martin on ch7 news tonight with the full interview to be shown on Ch7 Saturday Night
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2012, 06:34:09 PM
From Ch7's Tom Browne's twitter

Interview with Dusty Martin on ch7 news tonight with the full interview to be shown on Ch7 Saturday Night
Dusty's interview on shortly. Ch 7 followed him around for 2 days.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
Good interview. Onya Dusty  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 28, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
Deserved better. His last quarter effort late in the last was a sensational effort. Feel sorry for him and lids and cotch. It must be hard to have to play footy with a group of nuffers.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 28, 2012, 10:45:33 PM
martins kick up the arse seems to have done him the world of good.
His effort late in the game should have been game saving
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2012, 11:06:39 PM
Great tonight. Not only did the classy stuff which were brilliant but also the hard courageous things as Ramps pointed out with that desperate smother in the last. Thank god he didn't do his hammy properly. The Club took a risk putting him back on in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on July 28, 2012, 11:07:27 PM
Started like a house on fire and loved seeing him spent but still able to put in that last effort.

Bottom dozen players can go get stuffed
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on July 29, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
Deserved better. His last quarter effort late in the last was a sensational effort. Feel sorry for him and lids and cotch. It must be hard to have to play footy with a group of nuffers.

I am sure those three dont feel like that, but eff me the gap between our best few and bottom lot is huge
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 29, 2012, 11:42:41 AM
Boss.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 29, 2012, 12:11:31 PM
Started like a house on fire and loved seeing him spent but still able to put in that last effort.

Bottom dozen players can go get stuffed

Showed the kid has pride nd wants to give his all for his footy club.
Unquestionable display of guts and determination.

Pity he has some teammates who aren't even one millionth of a pubic hair from his balls.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Muscles on July 30, 2012, 11:52:22 AM
How much harder do you thing Dusty is running after his two week, mini-pre-season hiatus?  Has it been noticeable in the last two games?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on July 30, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
now that run and chase
that is what we all want to
see on a more consistent level :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 30, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
VIDEO: The Dustin Martin story for those that missed it last Saturday night on Channel 7...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/474089/default.aspx
or
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/474089/The%20Martin%20story/
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 05, 2012, 03:26:57 AM
Looks like Dusty got the rocket he needed. He's returned to form since he's come back from the club-imposed suspension.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on August 19, 2012, 03:42:46 AM
I'm starting to get frusated with Dusty.Killed us with his turnovers and poor decsions and goes missing at times.Since he got suspended gave us 1 good game back that's all.Try's to be superman at times and get's in trouble.Disposal needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2012, 05:48:49 PM
All-Australian and the guns who won't be there
Brad Hardie
The Age
August 20, 2012


If there's nothing left to gain this year from a team point of view, it's only natural those not taking part in the finals will start thinking about All-Australian selection. If you've had a good year in a bad side, All-Australian selection can be a nice consolation prize.

Having said that, there'll be a few guns missing out this year ... players full of promise and earning mega bucks who simply haven't delivered on their KPIs this year, for whatever reason. I'm going to run through six players just now who should be in the side, but won't be, and my reasons why I think they've struggled this year ...


Dustin Martin (Richmond)

This time last year, only a fool would bet on Trent Cotchin out-developing and out-ranking Martin as the most dominant midfielder at Tigerland, but it's happened, and there's probably only one good excuse for it. We all remember that incident a couple of months back when he turned up late for training and was sanctioned by the club. Such a public affair and disciplinary action can knock your confidence, and that's why I think he's struggling just now. Cotchin has streaked ahead of him in growth as a player, but Martin is young and can catch up.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/blogs/harden-up/allaustralian-and-the-guns-who-wont-be-there-20120820-24hnq.html#ixzz24G4yWAl4
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 22, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
All-Australian and the guns who won't be there
Brad Hardie
The Age
August 20, 2012


If there's nothing left to gain this year from a team point of view, it's only natural those not taking part in the finals will start thinking about All-Australian selection. If you've had a good year in a bad side, All-Australian selection can be a nice consolation prize.

Having said that, there'll be a few guns missing out this year ... players full of promise and earning mega bucks who simply haven't delivered on their KPIs this year, for whatever reason. I'm going to run through six players just now who should be in the side, but won't be, and my reasons why I think they've struggled this year ...


Dustin Martin (Richmond)

This time last year, only a fool would bet on Trent Cotchin out-developing and out-ranking Martin as the most dominant midfielder at Tigerland, but it's happened, and there's probably only one good excuse for it. We all remember that incident a couple of months back when he turned up late for training and was sanctioned by the club. Such a public affair and disciplinary action can knock your confidence, and that's why I think he's struggling just now. Cotchin has streaked ahead of him in growth as a player, but Martin is young and can catch up.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/blogs/harden-up/allaustralian-and-the-guns-who-wont-be-there-20120820-24hnq.html#ixzz24G4yWAl4

guy has no clue
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 22, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
All-Australian and the guns who won't be there
Brad Hardie
The Age
August 20, 2012


If there's nothing left to gain this year from a team point of view, it's only natural those not taking part in the finals will start thinking about All-Australian selection. If you've had a good year in a bad side, All-Australian selection can be a nice consolation prize.

Having said that, there'll be a few guns missing out this year ... players full of promise and earning mega bucks who simply haven't delivered on their KPIs this year, for whatever reason. I'm going to run through six players just now who should be in the side, but won't be, and my reasons why I think they've struggled this year ...


Dustin Martin (Richmond)

This time last year, only a fool would bet on Trent Cotchin out-developing and out-ranking Martin as the most dominant midfielder at Tigerland, but it's happened, and there's probably only one good excuse for it. We all remember that incident a couple of months back when he turned up late for training and was sanctioned by the club. Such a public affair and disciplinary action can knock your confidence, and that's why I think he's struggling just now. Cotchin has streaked ahead of him in growth as a player, but Martin is young and can catch up.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/blogs/harden-up/allaustralian-and-the-guns-who-wont-be-there-20120820-24hnq.html#ixzz24G4yWAl4

guy has no clue
your not wrong there.
martins season is not that far off last yrs. you can see it plain as day on match days imo his tank is the thing that is holding martin back.
it may take a yr or it may take 3 yrs but only when dustins tank improves significantly will his defensive game  and over all performances  significantly improve. think jack ziebel but not as bad or gary ablett junior.
it may take a few more yrs but it will turn and then watch out.

anyway  i dont know what people are complaining about with him atm his output and influence when hes in the game is very good. expectations not just at richmond but the footy world are silly at times.
atm i will take 22 possies a game  and 30 odd goals a season. what i would like to see slowly improve more than anything is the 1percenters and the defensive side of the game.
when i look at martin i see mark ricciuto mk2 just give it time.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on August 22, 2012, 10:25:11 PM
I think a lot of journos and those sorts have missed that Martin hasn't spent as much time on the ball this year. He definitely wasn't his best this season, but with our main on ball rotations, Cotch and Deledio start a lot in the guts and Martin up forward and replaces either when they need a spell. I'm really liking this set up and Martin is going to be an absolute nightmare to match up on in the future. He is too strong from a small defender and too quick for a tall, and his core strength makes him hard to stop when on the ball.

Keep it up, Dusty  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 22, 2012, 11:42:40 PM
I think a lot of journos and those sorts have missed that Martin hasn't spent as much time on the ball this year. He definitely wasn't his best this season, but with our main on ball rotations, Cotch and Deledio start a lot in the guts and Martin up forward and replaces either when they need a spell. I'm really liking this set up and Martin is going to be an absolute nightmare to match up on in the future. He is too strong from a small defender and too quick for a tall, and his core strength makes him hard to stop when on the ball.

Keep it up, Dusty  :thumbsup

I like this set up too, with a hard body clearance freak like Tuck and hopefully Conca to be in there
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 23, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
Hes had a very ordinary year.

He shouldn't be compared in performance to the other duds on the list.  Each player on the list should be judged individually. His performance should be based on his talent and ability vrs his output.  His output isn't anywhere near where it should be for a player of his talent and ability.  If he has broken even with his performances of last year, for a young developing player to stagnate, that is going backwards.  His defensive efforts are non existent and his ability to break tackles has not improved since last year.  Its not just motor, he is lazy.

Another player who hasn't developed under Hardwick.

With decent coaches, this guy would have the motor and confidence to be the best player in the afl.  We shouldn't be waiting three years for that just like we shouldn't have had to wait so long for Deledio to go in the midfield.  Not good enough.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 23, 2012, 10:21:04 AM
Hes had a very ordinary year.

He shouldn't be compared in performance to the other duds on the list.  Each player on the list should be judged individually. His performance should be based on his talent and ability vrs his output.  His output isn't anywhere near where it should be for a player of his talent and ability.  If he has broken even with his performances of last year, for a young developing player to stagnate, that is going backwards.  His defensive efforts are non existent and his ability to break tackles has not improved since last year.  Its not just motor, he is lazy.

Another player who hasn't developed under Hardwick.

With decent coaches, this guy would have the motor and confidence to be the best player in the afl.  We shouldn't be waiting three years for that just like we shouldn't have had to wait so long for Deledio to go in the midfield.  Not good enough.
Real motivation comes from within. Look at Fyfe. Change of coaches has meant nothing to him. He just goes about his business because he demands 100% effort from himself. This is not one you can pin on Hardwick. Team strategies etc etc yes. Individual motivation, no. The fact is Hardwick was there the last two years when he has played better anyway!
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 23, 2012, 03:21:26 PM
With decent coaches, this guy would have the motor and confidence to be the best player in the afl.  We shouldn't be waiting three years for that just like we shouldn't have had to wait so long for Deledio to go in the midfield.  Not good enough.

What 3rd year player has been the best player in the AFL?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 23, 2012, 04:06:43 PM
Judd was a monster then

Before lost speed
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on August 23, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
With decent coaches, this guy would have the motor and confidence to be the best player in the afl.  We shouldn't be waiting three years for that just like we shouldn't have had to wait so long for Deledio to go in the midfield.  Not good enough.

What 3rd year player has been the best player in the AFL?

Chris Judd?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 23, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
Won a Brownlow in his 3rd season didn't he?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on August 23, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
Won a Brownlow in his 3rd season didn't he?

Yup, with 30 votes.  Would make him pretty close to the "best player in the AFL" imho.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 23, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
Dustin in 2012/natural ability = Fail
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 23, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
Exactly his a freak, not many people would expect a 3rd year player to reach Judd level
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on August 23, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
Dustin's year has been disappointing, but I don't think we can blame Dimma for it. Dusty is still maturing as a person. I reckon he'l learn from this year and completely tear poo up next year.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 23, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Judd was a monster then

Before lost speed

Judd won a Brownlow in his third season.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 23, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
Dustin's year has been disappointing, but I don't think we can blame Dimma for it. Dusty is still maturing as a person. I reckon he'l learn from this year and completely tear poo up next year.

I think so too. Sometimes you need a big kick up the backside to refocus your objectives.

I think Dusty is suffering from third year blues rather than second year blues as most do.

I think he will go right up next year and show more and more of that Geelong practice match form.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 24, 2012, 12:41:05 PM
Think about Deledio.  Here is a guy who played in the mid in his first season and looked like a superstar.  How many years playing off a half back and best you could say is he is a good player.  Finally gets a run in the midfield and is a total gun.

Dusty is too easy to pick off sitting in a forward pocket.  He doesn't have the engine or inclination to run both ways.  I'm not sure which it is, because if you look at someone like Heppell, he can run all day.  So its not impossible for a player to be super fit coming out of under 18s.  They just get fitter the longer they play afl.  The coach wants him to do all the defensive things.  Personally, I would run him in bursts like maxfield and let him smash some teams until he gets the engine or inclination to run a match out.

The reason I blame dimma is because I think he is underutilised.  Not every player is self motivated.  Its the coaches role to get players up and about on a weekly basis.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 24, 2012, 03:50:37 PM
Heppel may run all day, but the steps shorten pretty bloody quick when a contest nears....
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 24, 2012, 03:59:54 PM
shortsteppell  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 25, 2012, 07:38:43 AM
LMAO yeh he's a girl
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 25, 2012, 07:48:11 AM
Truely a buffalo girl
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 25, 2012, 08:53:01 AM
shortsteppell  :cheers
Shytesen Short Steppell
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
I only saw Dusty come off. Did he look like he did a standard hammy that will heal in 3 weeks over the offseason or a bad one?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Standard.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Standard.
Ta Coach.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 02, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 02, 2012, 08:35:03 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

Not if your info is comming from the same guy that gave you the scoop about Ellis :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 02, 2012, 08:41:01 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

Not if your info is comming from the same guy that gave you the scoop about Ellis :lol :lol :lol

Watch this space
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Balmyarmy on September 02, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
Good or bad news?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 02, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
nobody knows yet.....even Dustin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 02, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

Not if your info is comming from the same guy that gave you the scoop about Ellis :lol :lol :lol

Watch this space

You been in another one of those meetings :rollin
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 02, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

Not if your info is comming from the same guy that gave you the scoop about Ellis :lol :lol :lol

Watch this space

You been in another one of those meetings :rollin

This is like the connors thread, calls it early and prays his right
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 02, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

Not if your info is comming from the same guy that gave you the scoop about Ellis :lol :lol :lol

Watch this space

You been in another one of those meetings :rollin

This is like the connors thread, calls it early and prays his right

It's called slinging poo and hoping it sticks :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 02, 2012, 08:58:21 PM
nobody knows yet.....even Dustin


That might be correct
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on September 02, 2012, 09:10:39 PM
Did anyone see him come back on?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 03, 2012, 08:20:35 AM
Snip:

folks should know the rules about unproven rumours. Let's see what happens and if the "rumour" proves correct and more importantly it appears in the media then people are free to speak about it on here 
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 03, 2012, 08:24:24 AM
Yoohoo!  I saw it before it was snipped - a first!!   :dancing
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 03, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
Yoohoo!  I saw it before it was snipped - a first!!   :dancing

FFS. send me a PM
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 03, 2012, 07:29:39 PM
it is rumoured that dusty is a lazy biatch who tackles like a princess and crys when he gets suspended.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 03, 2012, 07:30:46 PM
Heard he dressed up as a giant Stillnox packet.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 03, 2012, 07:42:24 PM
Yoohoo!  I saw it before it was snipped - a first!!   :dancing

FFS. send me a PM

+1
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 03, 2012, 07:43:18 PM
Yoohoo!  I saw it before it was snipped - a first!!   :dancing

X3 pm
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 03, 2012, 07:47:11 PM
Is it just me, or did dusty play like he had been on the slops Saturday night?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 03, 2012, 08:06:42 PM
 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 03, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
 ;) :whistle ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 03, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
Snip:

folks should know the rules about unproven rumours. Let's see what happens and if the "rumour" proves correct and more importantly it appears in the media then people are free to speak about it on here 

i love ,how if the media report it,it's as good as fact and we're allowed to follow suit.

I really love that aspect of free speech.

Who passed that law - Freemasons?
xxx
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 03, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
Snip:

folks should know the rules about unproven rumours. Let's see what happens and if the "rumour" proves correct and more importantly it appears in the media then people are free to speak about it on here 

i love ,how if the media report it,it's as good as fact and we're allowed to follow suit.

I really love that aspect of free speech.

Who passed that law - Freemasons?
xxx

Ox, you get the precious laws changed regarding defamation and you can have the free speech you clearly believe in  :thumbsup

Said many times I don't necessarily agree with the way the law is but we just deal with it the best we can based on the legal advice we've received over time
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 03, 2012, 10:25:33 PM
its not @ u,dear but rather the system.

Personally, i would make as much trouble as i could,if i owned the forum .....just saying' x
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 03, 2012, 10:27:38 PM
its not @ u,dear but rather the system.

Personally, i would make as much trouble as i could,if i owned the forum .....just saying' x

I know you would luv  :-* ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 03, 2012, 10:29:21 PM
its not @ u,dear but rather the system.

Personally, i would make as much trouble as i could,if i owned the forum .....just saying' x

xoxoxo
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 03, 2012, 11:04:48 PM
What would he fetch as a trade?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 03, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
What would he fetch as a trade?

Straight swap for Jack Martin ;)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 04, 2012, 12:10:10 AM
as if he's going anywhere.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 04, 2012, 12:49:16 AM
its not @ u,dear but rather the system.

Personally, i would make as much trouble as i could,if i owned the forum .....just saying' x

xoxoxo
Gossip Girl  ;)

Is a rumour still a rumour once it is proven?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on September 04, 2012, 03:51:58 AM
Trys to do to much sometimes and makes alot of mistakes and turns it over for the good he does.People may laugh at me,but if the right trade camed along like 2 picks a top 10 pick and a early  second rd pick I would consider it.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 04, 2012, 05:05:58 AM
Didn't know it was against the law to have one of these :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 04, 2012, 05:23:19 AM
Not bad kid for our 3rd best mid at the club.

If he ends up like Aka or Lappin no shame.in that.

Behind chimp/lids (voss/black)
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: eliminator on September 04, 2012, 06:11:43 AM
hoping for a big year from him next year. When he is on fire he is unstoppable.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 04, 2012, 07:45:17 AM
Didn't know it was against the law to have one of these :cheers

You know the answer to that you had a couple at the Social Club on Sunday night - you didn't look happy BTW  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 04, 2012, 07:48:37 AM
Didn't know it was against the law to have one of these :cheers

You know the answer to that you had a couple at the Social Club on Sunday night - you didn't look happy BTW  ;D

Who was his drinking buddy?   ;)   :o   :whistle
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 04, 2012, 08:57:17 AM
female buddys :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on September 04, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
Didn't know it was against the law to have one of these :cheers

You know the answer to that you had a couple at the Social Club on Sunday night - you didn't look happy BTW  ;D

never happy if we dont win :(
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 04, 2012, 09:12:57 AM
female buddys :thumbsup

That's only eliminated half of our senior team, not all of them!   ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 04, 2012, 09:30:09 AM
female buddys :thumbsup

give him a new 5 year deal and get him to 100 games asap  :cheers
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 06, 2012, 09:16:13 AM
Definitely a disappointing year for Dusty based on what he showed last season and expectations of what might come.
Hope his form is a temporary slide and not a permanent one. Can't afford to have high draftees with his talent going backwards.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 06, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
He had a good yr and played many games with a hammy and quad strain... Much of his work was also to protect Cotchin and lids and create space for them which he and tuck did brilliantly... Think u guys are expecting to much from him
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 06, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
He had a good yr and played many games with a hammy and quad strain... Much of his work was also to protect Cotchin and lids and create space for them which he and tuck did brilliantly... Think u guys are expecting to much from him

yeah just like you expect too much from Foley who wasn't even on the park.

clueless

Magic is right





Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 06, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
He had a good yr and played many games with a hammy and quad strain... Much of his work was also to protect Cotchin and lids and create space for them which he and tuck did brilliantly... Think u guys are expecting to much from him

yeah just like you expect too much from Foley who wasn't even on the park.

clueless

Magic is right

Lmao comparing Foley to Martin... U tossbag
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 06, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
You have a history of not knowing what your talking about and this is no exception.

Rance no good in 2012,  Foley is rubbish, Martin good year, Tambling is a gun.

NFI

move on son
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 06, 2012, 03:11:02 PM
He had a good yr and played many games with a hammy and quad strain... Much of his work was also to protect Cotchin and lids and create space for them which he and tuck did brilliantly... Think u guys are expecting to much from him

yeah just like you expect too much from Foley who wasn't even on the park.

clueless

Magic is right

Lmao comparing Foley to Martin.....

Yes it is a bit of a laugh, Martin promises so much yet has delivered SFA. Is no where near Foley at the moment.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Willy on September 06, 2012, 03:20:46 PM
Wow. Didnt think  Foley skeptics existed anymore after the year he had (before injuries, of course). Our midfield was noticeably  less powerful without him.

Dusty needs to lift big time. His potential is enormous.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on September 06, 2012, 03:50:29 PM
i was disappointed in his year, wasnt helpled
from his issue.

i think the bush telegraph pumping him
for huge year lifted everyones expectations
and rightly so.

lets hope a little more less of the hype and he
will show his truth worth next year.

there is too much to work with here to let it
all go to the crappers with Dusty.

reckon Chocco might be having a quiet word to
the lad on his arrival. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 06, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
You have a history of not knowing what your talking about and this is no exception.

Rance no good in 2012,  Foley is rubbish, Martin good year, Tambling is a gun.

NFI

move on son

After the Tambling saga I think it was time then for x to hand in his badge. Saying Foley can't play and Post is better than Rance doesn't help his case.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 06, 2012, 06:07:40 PM

reckon Chocco might be having a quiet word to
the lad on his arrival. :thumbsup

That wouldn't hurt and it also wouldn't hurt if it was a bit louder than quiet.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Tigger on September 07, 2012, 09:34:29 AM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

The week is nearly up and havent heard any more....perhaps there was nothing to hear?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: dwaino on September 07, 2012, 10:16:52 AM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

The week is nearly up and havent heard any more....perhaps there was nothing to hear?

I'm still waiting on the goss on Connors  :shh
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on September 07, 2012, 10:24:56 AM
This might be relevant:

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/blog/eddie-mcguire-puts-the-3-strikes-rumour-to-bed-after-buddy-franklin-misses-6th-game/20120820-gzli.html
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 07, 2012, 06:51:40 PM
Might here more about D. Martin during the week. :shh

The week is nearly up and havent heard any more....perhaps there was nothing to hear?

Guess what you maybe right

Actually you are right...

No story here  ;)



This might be relevant:

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/blog/eddie-mcguire-puts-the-3-strikes-rumour-to-bed-after-buddy-franklin-misses-6th-game/20120820-gzli.html

What...relevance = zero
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2012, 01:48:38 PM
Robbo has got stuck into Dusty today in his 'The Tackle' article on the Herald-Sun website:

DUSTED MARTIN

Best and fairest awards are the best judges of performance.

Richmond, then, didn't rate Dustin Martin's season.

He finished a lowly 10th in the Jack Dyer Medal held last Wednesday night, which means the rest of us overate
him, and that Martin is more hype and hope than consistent performer.

The final placings were:

1st Trent Cotchin 296 votes;
2nd Brett Deledio 263;
3rd Ivan Maric 248:
4th Shane Tuck 207;
5th Shaun Grigg 198
6th Alex Rance 192
7th Steven Morris 191
8th Shane Edwards 188
9th Jack Riewoldt 173
=10th Dustin Martin 170
=10th Bachar Houli 170

First-year player Morris had a promising season, with his competiveness a standout, and Edwards played better football than I could've imagined, but the fact Martin finished below both of them should rankle Martin and the Tigers.

It shows that Martin, despite his obvious talent, he has serious consistency issues.

Comparing him to Trent Cotchin is probably unfair, but Cotchin, who was drafted a year ahead of Martin, already has two best and fairest awards to his name.

Martin finished third last year behind Cotchin, and dropped seven places this year.

When the graph on most young players is expected to head north, Martin's dipped.

He played one less game but had fewer possessions (447-486), 10 fewer goals (23-33), 13 fewer tackles (73-60) and 15 fewer marks (63-78).

Much was made of Martin's social life when he was suspended, and Daniel Connors was sacked, after a night on sleeping tablets meant they missed training the next day.

Nothing was official correspondence, of course, but concerns were there for Tigers officials.

No-one wants a team of choir boys, but there's an expectation that if you are cowboy, don't let your footy slip.

Less cowboy and more choir might be needed in 2013.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/fremantle-spearhead-matthew-pavlich-deserves-honour-of-being-named-all-australian-captain/story-fn5937w8-1226468491638
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: taztiger4 on September 10, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Cotch was actuallt drafted 2 years before Dusty, research Robbo research
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 10, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
Why doesn't he get stuck into Hurley?
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 10, 2012, 02:35:21 PM
Why doesn't he get stuck into Hurley?

Don't worry about what I put in my articles
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
He will be back next year better than ever, dont think he doesn't know he should of played better, he will play a big part in our finals campain.

Go Dusty.
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 10, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Why doesn't he get stuck into Hurley?

Don't worry about what I put in my articles

Ok Robbo
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 10, 2012, 03:03:43 PM
Why doesn't he get stuck into Hurley?

Don't worry about what I put in my articles

Ok Robbo

k
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 10, 2012, 03:04:25 PM
Why doesn't he get stuck into Hurley?

Don't worry about what I put in my articles

Ok Robbo

k

:clapping
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 10, 2012, 08:02:34 PM
He will be back next year better than ever, dont think he doesn't know he should of played better, he will play a big part in our finals campain.

Go Dusty.

Edwards finish above him in b&f?
Go titch  :lol
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 10, 2012, 08:28:07 PM
You'd think it would be a pretty decent motivator finishing behind Sheddy in the B&F

The list should improve heaps next year  ;D
Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2012, 08:36:36 AM
He will be back next year better than ever, dont think he doesn't know he should of played better, he will play a big part in our finals campain.

Go Dusty.

Edwards finish above him in b&f?
Go titch  :lol

Morris finished above Edwarts in his first year, Martin has been in for 2 years and itch 6 years....you work it out.... :lol :lol

Won't last for long anyway, Marting is 10 times the footballer he is as is Morris.

Title: Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 02, 2012, 02:10:52 AM