One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on October 09, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
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Who is available?
Is it too soon to tell?
Luke Ball if doesn't get a trade will most likley go in and get picke dup at Pick 1. Heres hoping so then we have the field to choose from?
Heard Matthew Stokes has walked out on Geelong?
Anyone else?
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From what i've seen of the PSD over the last few years, it's massively overrated and we'll end up picking a kid or VFL/SANFL/WAFL player.
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Stokes has re-signed.
I guess you know when lists have to be lodged, but it appears Melbourne is interested in Ball. I don't rate him anyway.
I can't see any big name slipping to us, happy to pick up a kid who has played some senior footy.
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Ah he re-signed!
Well Cousins came through the PSD, Liam Jurrah did as well.
If we work hard we can get the pick right.
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SEN nudge and wink......
Bradshaw to retire and then put his name in the draft or PSD.
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How is that retiring?
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Mal Michael did it.
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SEN nudge and wink......
Bradshaw to retire and then put his name in the draft or PSD.
wonder which has been in his ear as well..
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Jesse Smith is available if any club is willing to accept the injury risk....
Jesse Smith leaves North Melbourne with a swipe
Jay Clark From: Herald Sun October 11, 2009
NORTH Melbourne has been upset by Jesse Smith's decision to walk out on the club, claiming its facilities are not good enough.
Smith will nominate for the draft in a move that will deliver nothing to the club that says it has supported him throughout five injury-riddled seasons.
In an explosive and bitter end to trade week, Smith's manager, Liam Pickering, said yesterday the Kangaroos did not have the right "tools" for his client's rehabilitation.
In a further blow, talent identification expert Neville Stibbard said Smith, 23, had the talent to become an AFL star.
"Jesse is a genuine A-grade player," Stibbard said. "He is as good as Brendon Goddard . . . he is an elite talent."
The midfielder has played only two games in the past two years and 27 amid a horror run of hamstring and ankle injuries.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-smith-leaves-north-melbourne-with-a-swipe/story-e6frf9jf-1225785346672
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Would we risk him? Anyone know much detail about how bad the ankle really is?
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i'd take him in a heart beat, upside is enormous if it pays off!!
and our facilities are not third world..
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Send him to Germany / U.S / wherever for 2010 to get his ankles right. Come 2011, we'll have another gun player.
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If he is the best available played at pick 2 in the PSD then yeah I suppose you take him
What sort of contract do you give him is the question I reckon
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If he is the best available played at pick 2 in the PSD then yeah I suppose you take him
What sort of contract do you give him is the question I reckon
exactly. if he's available at pick 2 in the PSD i don't see why not. esp in a allegedly 'weak' draft. he's the perfect guy to pick up. high reward if he can overcome his injuries. if not, no huge loss.
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Too big a question mark for my liking ..the upside is great but his past history of injury is just too great to ignore
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Would he want to come to Richmond even if we offered? If facilities are such an issue then what do we say when we haven't even begun the Punt Rd redevelopment yet :-\.
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I think we will pick him up if he's there and he will come IMO regardless of our facilities. I think our re-building of the facilities is a little further advanced than the Roos.
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I think we will pick him up if he's there and he will come IMO regardless of our facilities. I think our re-building of the facilities is a little further advanced than the Roos.
Hmmmm
Let me see....
The Roos new facilities are set to be completed in the next 4-6 weeks
Our main re-development of Punt Road (which includes the new area for the footy dept) has just started and wont be finished until late 2010
I think we can say the Roos may just be slightly ahead of us
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Hopefully Melbourne commit to a player with PSD pick 1 which makes our selection the first live pick
That way we can get all the kids down to train with us knowing we're their best chance of getting onto a senior list
If no one stands out then perhaps look at taking the chance on someone like Smith
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I think we will pick him up if he's there and he will come IMO regardless of our facilities. I think our re-building of the facilities is a little further advanced than the Roos.
Hmmmm
Let me see....
The Roos new facilities are set to be completed in the next 4-6 weeks
Our main re-development of Punt Road (which includes the new area for the footy dept) has just started and wont be finished until late 2010
I think we can say the Roos may just be slightly ahead of us
its ok.
we have cragieburn ;D
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its ok.
we have cragieburn ;D
yeah we do which will be great when it's finished (proper change rooms etc) in ..................... Feb 2010 :thumbsup
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I think we will pick him up if he's there and he will come IMO regardless of our facilities. I think our re-building of the facilities is a little further advanced than the Roos.
Hmmmm
Let me see....
The Roos new facilities are set to be completed in the next 4-6 weeks
Our main re-development of Punt Road (which includes the new area for the footy dept) has just started and wont be finished until late 2010
I think we can say the Roos may just be slightly ahead of us
Hmmmmm
Let me see...
Why the hell is he leaving then??? BTW don't you think our facilities and what we are doing going forward is more appealing than Norths?????? I do!!
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Hmmmmm
Let me see...
Why the hell is he leaving then??? BTW don't you think our facilities and what we are doing going forward is more appealing than Norths?????? I do!!
That wasn't what you said or asked
You said "I think our re-building of the facilities is a little further advanced than the Roos."
What I pointed out was that at this time our facilities ARE NOT further advanced than Norths because theirs like it or not are just about finished and our finished product is about 12 months away - so to say we are ahead isn't right
And just as an aside there is in interview with Smith in this mornings paper. It isn't the "facilities" as such but the structure for medical, conditioning and footy science he has issues with. Could not beleive when I heard that North don't have full time medicall people (eg Doctor & physio)
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Jon Griffin from Adelaide? Oops he's contracted. :(
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I wouldn't waste our PSD pick on him but I hear Geelong has de-listed Kane Tenace today
Glad to see that other clubs stuff up with their top 10 draft picks as well :rollin
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I wouldn't waste our PSD pick on him but I hear Geelong has de-listed Kane Tenace today
Glad to see that other clubs stuff up with their top 10 draft picks as well :rollin
In less frequency than us. :banghead
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See the Lions have officially de-listed Joel MacDonald
Would he be worth looking at with pick in the PSD?
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See the Lions have officially de-listed Joel MacDonald
Would he be worth looking at with pick in the PSD?
Are you pinning our chances next year on who we pick up in the PSD?? Very interested in other teams discards.
i hear Kade Klemke got delisted too maybe we could pick him up this year.
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See the Lions have officially de-listed Joel MacDonald
Would he be worth looking at with pick in the PSD?
Are you pinning our chances next year on who we pick up in the PSD?? Very interested in other teams discards.i hear Kade Klemke got delisted too maybe we could pick him up this year.
Actually I am not interested in other teams discards - was just raising the question for discussion :thumbsup
Wondering if people think he has some upside - seeing he played 22 games in 2009 and is only 25
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See the Lions have officially de-listed Joel MacDonald
Would he be worth looking at with pick in the PSD?
Are you pinning our chances next year on who we pick up in the PSD?? Very interested in other teams discards.i hear Kade Klemke got delisted too maybe we could pick him up this year.
Actually I am not interested in other teams discards - was just raising the question for discussion :thumbsup
Wondering if people think he has some upside - seeing he played 22 games in 2009 and is only 25
MacDonald is inconsistent. He either gets a stack of it which makes him stand out or he is quiet. He'd probably make a good depth player for a side challenging but we don't need another middle-of-the-road player for mine. We also have too many flankers as it is :-\.
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Get more Calder Premiership players onto the list I say.
Jesse Smith won the BoG medal in the 2004 TAC Grand Final and if he is able to prove his fitness then we would be mad to overlook him.
Getting him on the list with Whitey, Gus Graham and now with Mitch Farmer can only add to our chances of success in the next few years.
Geelong had about 5 Premiership winninig Cannons in their Premiership sides so going with Premiership Cannons is a safer bet than some other choices.
I bet Port Adelaide are glad they got David Rodan too.
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See the Lions have officially de-listed Joel MacDonald
Would he be worth looking at with pick in the PSD?
Are you pinning our chances next year on who we pick up in the PSD?? Very interested in other teams discards.i hear Kade Klemke got delisted too maybe we could pick him up this year.
Actually I am not interested in other teams discards - was just raising the question for discussion :thumbsup
Wondering if people think he has some upside - seeing he played 22 games in 2009 and is only 25
MacDonald is inconsistent. He either gets a stack of it which makes him stand out or he is quiet. He'd probably make a good depth player for a side challenging but we don't need another middle-of-the-road player for mine. We also have too many flankers as it is :-\.
Does everyone remember Shane Morrison & Luke Weller?? I think MacDonald is in the same catergory, An inconsistent Lions reject. NO thanks!!
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MacDonald is inconsistent. He either gets a stack of it which makes him stand out or he is quiet. He'd probably make a good depth player for a side challenging but we don't need another middle-of-the-road player for mine. We also have too many flankers as it is :-\.
Does everyone remember Shane Morrison & Luke Weller?? I think MacDonald is in the same catergory, An inconsistent Lions reject. NO thanks!!
I think you guys might be judging MacDonald a bit harshly. He has played some very good football for Brisbane and I think he might be a victim of their salary cap more than anything else. Here are some stats:
2004 - 11 games
2005 - 18 games
2006 - 3 games
2007 - 9 games
2008 - 17 games
2009 - 22 games
He averages 16.4 disposals, 4.2 marks, 1.9 tackles.
He did a knee in Round 3 2006 and came back mid '07. Since then he has become a permanent fixture in their side again, only missing games due to injury, never form. Leigh Matthews is a fair judge of footballer and MacDonald was a regular in his teams. He turned 25 this week so he is not overly old to our rebuilding side - I think he would be a huge improvement in our team to a McMahon or Raines.
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Jesse Smith has chronic ankle injuries. Stay away will be a waste as he can't get onto the paddock. Talented and good player but means jack with his injuries. 3 Vic clubs passed on him on their Doctors advice. Essendon and St Kilda were two of those clubs.
I would not mind a punt on McDonald. Comparing him to Weller or Morrison draws a long bow. Weller was never a permanent fixture in a Brisbane side that was winning flags and Morrison we thought was a ready made CHF that was kept out of the side by Jonathon Brown hence we rated him so highly and gave Weller the time of day also. When they bombed they bombed. I remember people thinking Morrison was going to kick 50+ goals in 2004 and I don't think he got to 10. Neither were permanent fixtures in their side and you could see why once they put on the yellow and black at least McDonald was and Bris Vegas finished in the finals so he can't be all that bad.
If we can't get our hands on Ball then McDonald would be a good get. As opposed to trading for these blokes last week. Picking them up in PSD costs us nothing and will at least enhance our playing list slightly. They both are of 25 years of age so they have a number of good years of footy left in them.
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Get more Calder Premiership players onto the list I say.
Jesse Smith won the BoG medal in the 2004 TAC Grand Final and if he is able to prove his fitness then we would be mad to overlook him.
Getting him on the list with Whitey, Gus Graham and now with Mitch Farmer can only add to our chances of success in the next few years.
Geelong had about 5 Premiership winninig Cannons in their Premiership sides so going with Premiership Cannons is a safer bet than some other choices.
I bet Port Adelaide are glad they got David Rodan too.
and its supporters like you who would want players like him at the club :lol So what if he won a BOG medal in the 2004 TAC GF
Coughlan won a B&F in 2003 & has gone because of injury & has 10 times more class than Smith & proved his over his injuries but is not upto league level anymore
The Smith window has closed, His body cannot handle the rise in level from TAC to League, but you still want him after a game he played well in 5 years ago,
5 years is along time in football at league level & still aint made a solid place in a weak Kangaroos side. Move on ;D get over it his time is over. :shh
We need to look at players like Ball, Wojinski, who are top line footballers & try to snare someone away from another club whos out of contract who might just leave for the right contract & money & this year could be the best year in many for players moving clubs. But dont wish for other clubs rubbish. We been down that path too many times & its always sickening :thumbsup
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Macdonald's manager, Marty Pask said he hadn't yet discussed Macdonald with the Demons or Richmond, with both clubs' key football staff out of Melbourne.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86144/default.aspx
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Id hope wed be looking for a decent out of contract ruckman, if not, lets hope FJ has been to see the club that Jurrah played for last year. There has to be some aboriginal talent somewhere to get the hoardes excited. And if not, the Boogster is raring to get his opportunity at AFL level :lol
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I think Liam Jurrah may have been a standout. Before He was drafted to Melbourne he came up from Alice Springs to play in Darwin. One of the local football commetators, Charlie King, just raved raved about how good he was and how exciting it was to have such a talent come to Darwin to play. I have never heard him go on and on about a player in such a way, before or since.
Cheers
Al
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BRISBANE seem best poised to snare former Kangaroo Jesse Smith, with the club heading a list of suitors for the injury-plagued midfielder.
He has since completed medicals with the Lions, Hawthorn, Essendon and Geelong, and his manager Liam Pickering has fielded enquires from the Sydney Swans and Fremantle.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86157/default.aspx
It doesn't appear we are interested in Smith.
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bugga me, might be easier to produce a list of players the lions aint interested in :o...Ball, Smith, what next Nathan Brown :lol
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Get more Calder Premiership players onto the list I say.
Jesse Smith won the BoG medal in the 2004 TAC Grand Final and if he is able to prove his fitness then we would be mad to overlook him.
and its supporters like you who would want players like him at the club :lol So what if he won a BOG medal in the 2004 TAC GF
Coughlan won a B&F in 2003 & has gone because of injury & has 10 times more class than Smith & proved his over his injuries but is not upto league level anymore
The Smith window has closed, His body cannot handle the rise in level from TAC to League, but you still want him after a game he played well in 5 years ago,
You haven't seen that English teacher that I recommended yet have you Monk.
What part of "if he is able to prove his fitness" didn't you understand?
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Id hope wed be looking for a decent out of contract ruckman, if not, lets hope FJ has been to see the club that Jurrah played for last year. There has to be some aboriginal talent somewhere to get the hoardes excited. And if not, the Boogster is raring to get his opportunity at AFL level :lol
I think Liam Jurrah may have been a standout. Before He was drafted to Melbourne he came up from Alice Springs to play in Darwin. One of the local football commetators, Charlie King, just raved raved about how good he was and how exciting it was to have such a talent come to Darwin to play. I have never heard him go on and on about a player in such a way, before or since.
Cheers
Al
I may have spoken too soon here.
A sports editorial in the local rag today;
(Morris on Monday.)
Best talent is in our own backyard
I hope Kevin Sheedy and his AFL comrades read this weeks Northern Territory News reports on Liam Patrick with a lot of intent.
Patrick's brilliance in three starts for Wanderers is further proof, if it was needed, of the wealth of football talent across the Territory.
The "Lajamanu Lightning Bolt" has already attracted the attention of AFL clubs, including Hawthorn, Melbourne and Richmond.
Hawthorns West Coast recruiting manager, Garry Buckenara was at TIO Stadium on Saturday night to look at Patrick, despite doing his best to keep a low profile.
But his target was obviously the lanky Centralian in the No. 10 Wanderers jumper.
One recruiting manager I spoke to last month rates Patrick, but has him marked slightly behind another Liam - Jurrah- in all round ability.
Let me tell that person Liam Patrick deserves the title of "Walpiri Wizard Mark 2". The only decision this writer needs to make is whether to mark Patrick slightly higher than the original Walpiri Wizard.
Patrick can fly like an eagle, mark anything near him and kick and handball with precision.
More importantly, he can turn a game - as he has in the last two weeks from losing positions against the Tiwi Bombers and NIghtcliff.
Asked after Saturday's second Houdini escape act in as many weeks if the AFL was his aim, Patricks face broke into a grin.
At 21 years of age and with at ten years of top-line football left in him, Patrick must be right at the top of several clubs "get him" list.
Now sheeds, where are we with that discussion about wasting millions of dollars outside Australia on phantom recruits when the real diamonds are on our front doorstep.
Northern Territory News, Monday, October 19, 2009.
They don't appear to put the editorials on line.
I dont buy the newspaper that often, so can't comment on the writer and his knowledge, or lack there of.
Cheers
Al
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Sounds like the kid might have a bit of go in him, if he does have that spark about him we could definitely have him at the club over some of the players that have been de-listed and/or left their clubs. At least he is in our age range, be interesting to see a video of him.
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Francis Leech on SEN reckoned Richmond will be interested in Matt Maguire because we need a big body defender.
We don't need a slow-turning injury-riddled 26 year old either Francis :nope
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Yes we are going to possibly delist a guy who got hit by a tram and possibly the rigors of footy are beyond him long term only to pick up a guy who has had so many injuries and as a result his legs can no longer stand the rigors of AFL footy. :whistle
We aint in the news so they'll make anything up. :wallywink
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No to McGuire.
Seriously I've had enough of offcuts from other clubs.
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Liam Pickering claims 5 clubs are chasing Jesse Smith. I wonder if Richmond is one of them?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/train-fail-or-shine/story-e6frf9jf-1225793311399
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3aw were taking calls guessing how the PSD would turn out. A caller had us taking Bradshaw ??? and Shaw saw it as a possiblity. Beva said we would stick to Riewoldt, Post and Morton.
Anyway some posibilities?
1. Melb - Ball
2. Rich - Thorp
3. Freo - McDonald
4. North - ?
5. Syd - Bradshaw
6. Eagles - ?
7. Port - Patto?
8. Haw - Jesse Smith
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Rumor is Thorpe wants to come to the Tiges?
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Gloss not yet off these players
Jon Ralph From: Herald Sun November 06, 2009
THE best thing about trash and treasure sales is that there is something for everyone.
The past owner couldn't get it out of the door quick enough, but you can pick up a bargain and, with a lick of paint, it might be as good as new.
A raft of AFL rejects will be up for grabs in the national and pre-season drafts, and while most will be ignored, some will surely be snapped up.
And no matter your requirement, the player is there for you to draft.
Want an inside midfielder? Shunned North Melbourne onballer Daniel Harris is your man.
As a fall-back, former Melbourne midfielder Shane Valenti may just be the man to step into an experienced centre-square set-up and win some quality ball.
Former St Kilda defender Matt Maguire once had the potential to be the league's dominant centre half-back, which means surely one club will be prepared to draft him.
Carlton will consider throwing Maguire a lifeline, with coach Brett Ratten saying yesterday: "He'll come down and train with us. It will give us a chance just to see where his body is at and to have a look at him with our group.
"If he does everything right, he'll be a chance."
If the Blues don't want Maguire 99-game career, there are other defences across the league that could use bolstering.
As for taggers, there is a wealth of options. Robert Shirley was an A-grade tagger for years at Adelaide, while an attacking run-with tagger such as former Blue Jordan Bannister would be a reasonable long shot.
Ruckmen are perhaps a little thin on the ground, but there is Richmond's Adam Pattison.
As for forwards, the future does not look bright for Richmond's Nathan Brown or Melbourne's Russell Robertson.
Recruiters had speculated that Gold Coast's inclusion from 2011 may force clubs to punt on veterans, but neither seems to have garnered much interest.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/gloss-not-yet-off-these-players/story-e6frf9if-1225794825179
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PSD possibilities?
1. Melbourne: Luke Ball/Mitch Thorp
2. Richmond: Rhan Hooper/Mitch Thorp
3. Fremantle: Adam McPhee/Joel Mcdonald
4. North Melbourne : Joel McDonald
5. Sydney: Daniel Bradshaw
6. West Coast: ?
7. Port Adelaide: Adam Pattison
8. Hawthorn: Jesse Smith/Adam Pattison
9. Essendon: ?
10. Carlton: Matt Maguire
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Only way Ball can end up at PSD pick 1 is if no one picks him in the ND, I dont think that will happen ;)
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Geez those PSD picks are gold aren't they!
Look at the quality of that list.
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Geez those PSD picks are gold aren't they!
Look at the quality of that list.
With the names likely available we'd be better off doing what the Dees did last year and go for a kid to get ahead of the GC17 who have the first 5 rookie picks.
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Melbourne will take Joel Macdonald with its first pick in the pre-season draft, Richmond has pick two and is as yet uncommitted to any player, while Fremantle, with pick three, will select Adam McPhee from Essendon.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/hawks-are-all-eyes-on-the-ruck-draft/2009/11/21/1258220010918.html
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Gee who the hell do we believe?????????????
Ball likely to become a Demon - whether he likes it or not
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ball-likely-to-become-a-demon/2009/11/21/1258220010915.html
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We now have the first live pick in the PSD.....
Joel Macdonald began training with the Demons yesterday and is set to be taken with Melbourne's first pick in the pre-season draft. MacDonald has agreed to a two-year deal with the club.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/new-push-to-enter-the-ball-game/2009/11/23/1258824670415.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Shame most the players we'd have want to push through to our pick have all nominated for the draft, not sure they can withdraw
At least it will get most of the kids after a spot training with us first given we have the first live pick
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what are we likely to do?
:)
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what are we likely to do?
:)
Good question now after the draft.
Do we go with a recycled player like a Thorp or a kid who just missed out and get in early on the rookie draft?
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what are we likely to do?
:)
Good question now after the draft.
Do we go with a recycled player like a Thorp or a kid who just missed out and get in early on the rookie draft?
Kid unless another Cousins falls in our lap. :o
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Thorp, Grimes, Hartigan, Daw, Temel, Dare... get em all training at the club and pick the best
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Thorp, Grimes, Hartigan, Daw, Temel, Dare... get em all training at the club and pick the best
Temel not being picked up speaks volumes to me.
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Thorp, Grimes, Hartigan, Daw, Temel, Dare... get em all training at the club and pick the best
add Panos!
:)
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Do we go with a recycled player like a Thorp or a kid who just missed out and get in early on the rookie draft?
I've gone right off Thorpe. Grimes or Hartigan, go another young untried key defender.
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There's only 6 clubs participating in the PSD this year....
PRE-SEASON DRAFT, December 15
1. Melbourne: J. Macdonald
2. Richmond: will take a youngster with the second pick in the draft after passing at pick 78 on Thursday. The Tigers are expected to invite potential draftees to a rookie camp where they can assess their talent.
3. Fremantle: A. McPhee
4. Sydney: D. Bradshaw
5. West Coast: ?
6. Essendon: ?
Other clubs can delist players by December 2 to create room for another pre-season pick
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/final-chance/story-e6frf9jf-1225804781123
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Supposedly Essendon (because of McPhee) and West Coast have picks as well.
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Supposedly Essendon (because of McPhee) and West Coast have picks as well.
Ah you're right about Essendon jezza. Cheers :cheers. The AFL site had McPhee still on the Bombers list. I'll edit my above post. The Eagles have a full senior list according to the AFL site.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86555/default.aspx
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The Eagles have a full senior list according to the AFL site.
Can't find the post where I read it but supposedly Westcoast has a player who has retired that they have not taken off their list yet. Suppose we will know by list lodgement 3.
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The Eagles have a full senior list according to the AFL site.
Can't find the post where I read it but supposedly Westcoast has a player who has retired that they have not taken off their list yet. Suppose we will know by list lodgement 3.
RROFO, you and jezza are correct :thumbsup. My OER secretary ;D just reminded me via PM that Stenglein is still on the Eagles' list even though he has announced his retirement. They'll officially delist him on Dec 2. So there will be 6 clubs in the PSD.
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That secretary is probably underworked and overpaid.
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That secretary is probably underworked and overpaid.
or hiding under the desk, :lol
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That secretary is probably underworked and overpaid.
Would tend to agree the other senior management in OER certainly don't have access to any darn secretary :help ;D
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Richmond held a rookie search session which contained about 22 undrafted youngsters of which the best will be drafted with selection #2 in the PSD. Straight from the recruitment managers mouth (Francis Jackson). I dunno what kids that involved though. I would imagine Dare, Grimes, Panos, Hartigan and co.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16376762&postcount=5
If it was anything like previous years they would have narrowed that 22 down to a handful of kids (RT on BF says around 10) to train with us leading up to the PSD and rookie draft.
That secretary is probably underworked and overpaid.
:lol
Like a board director it's an honourable only position ;D
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no mitch thorp then?
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no mitch thorp then?
Not in the PSD. If he ends up at the RFC he'll be a rookie.
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no mitch thorp then?
He has stress fractures in his foot, he can't train for 8 weeks
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we wont touch thorp
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we wont touch thorp
Yep going by the National draft, Hardwick is on the 100% youth path with no recycles. This time next year we could have around 25 newbies all under 22 years of age. Hardwick has certainly brought a big broom with him to Punt Rd. He's cut hard and deep.
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we wont touch thorp
Yep going by the National draft, Hardwick is on the 100% youth path with no recycles. This time next year we could have around 25 newbies all under 22 years of age. Hardwick has certainly brought a big broom with him to Punt Rd. He's cut hard and deep.
and just think there were some buffoons in here months ago running PR campaigns for Jade Rawlings ::) And no MT Im not talking about you just some others who got excited about some very average wins thats all.
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any idea of who we will draft?
should we go for another Midfielder?
or go for another Tall Forward?
any idea who is training with us?
:)
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we wont touch thorp
Yep going by the National draft, Hardwick is on the 100% youth path with no recycles. This time next year we could have around 25 newbies all under 22 years of age. Hardwick has certainly brought a big broom with him to Punt Rd. He's cut hard and deep.
and just think there were some buffoons in here months ago running PR campaigns for Jade Rawlings ::) And no MT Im not talking about you just some others who got excited about some very average wins thats all.
hahahaha gee i remember after that win against the dees some were jumping up and down on the Rawlings bandwagon.
for that matter Hinkley too.
Hardwick is ruthless just as he said he would be.
Exactly what we need at the club. Lets hope we bottom out for one more year and lose those meaningless games instead of winning them
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we wont touch thorp
Yep going by the National draft, Hardwick is on the 100% youth path with no recycles. This time next year we could have around 25 newbies all under 22 years of age. Hardwick has certainly brought a big broom with him to Punt Rd. He's cut hard and deep.
and just think there were some buffoons in here months ago running PR campaigns for Jade Rawlings ::) And no MT Im not talking about you just some others who got excited about some very average wins thats all.
hahahaha gee i remember after that win against the dees some were jumping up and down on the Rawlings bandwagon.
for that matter Hinkley too.
Hardwick is ruthless just as he said he would be.
Exactly what we need at the club. Lets hope we bottom out for one more year and lose those meaningless games instead of winning them
We did not win the game against the Dees ( they lost it ) we only got the 4 points :ROTFL
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we wont touch thorp
Yep going by the National draft, Hardwick is on the 100% youth path with no recycles. This time next year we could have around 25 newbies all under 22 years of age. Hardwick has certainly brought a big broom with him to Punt Rd. He's cut hard and deep.
and just think there were some buffoons in here months ago running PR campaigns for Jade Rawlings ::) And no MT Im not talking about you just some others who got excited about some very average wins thats all.
hahahaha gee i remember after that win against the dees some were jumping up and down on the Rawlings bandwagon.
for that matter Hinkley too.
Hardwick is ruthless just as he said he would be.
Exactly what we need at the club. Lets hope we bottom out for one more year and lose those meaningless games instead of winning them
We did not win the game against the Dees ( they lost it ) we only got the 4 points :ROTFL
history doesnt tell you they lost it, it says WE WON
end of story
meaningless win any day of the week
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Port have a PSD pick now after delisting another player.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87769/default.aspx
PSD order:
1. Melb - Joel McDonald
2. Rich - ?
3. Freo - Adam McPhee
4. Syd - Daniel Bradshaw
5. WCE - ?
6. Port - Cameron Cloke?
7. Ess - ?
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The Bombers may be going for a mature 22-year-old in the PSD. Better for us if they do.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87831/default.aspx
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any idea of who we will draft?
should we go for another Midfielder?
or go for another Tall Forward?
any idea who is training with us?
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who do we think we will draft?
:)
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who do we think we will draft?
:)
Liam Pickering reckons it'll be Dylan Grimes who he says was very unlucky not to be picked up in the National draft. Makes sense as Grimes is training with us.
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who do we think we will draft?
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Liam Pickering reckons it'll be Dylan Grimes who he says was very unlucky not to be picked up in the National draft. Makes sense as Grimes is training with us.
Just as an off-hand question (and not for one moment suspecting any self-promotion ::) ) - who is Grimes manager?
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who do we think we will draft?
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Liam Pickering reckons it'll be Dylan Grimes who he says was very unlucky not to be picked up in the National draft. Makes sense as Grimes is training with us.
Just as an off-hand question (and not for one moment suspecting any self-promotion ::) ) - who is Grimes manager?
No idea smokey. Pickering did say he hasn't heard anything about who we'll draft in the PSD so he's just guessing.
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NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft order confirmed
afl.com.au
By Luke Holmesby | Mon 07 December, 2009
SEVEN teams will take part in next week’s NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.
Melbourne, Richmond, Fremantle, the Sydney Swans, West Coast, Port Adelaide and Essendon will each have one pick each.
The Demons will take former Lion Joel Macdonald with the first pick, while Fremantle has committed to former Bomber Adam McPhee. The Swans will take former Lion Daniel Bradshaw with the fourth overall pick.
West Coast and Port Adelaide were the last two clubs to qualify for the draft after delisting Tyson Stenglein and Glenn Dawson respectively.
Former Carlton big man Cameron Cloke has been reported to be a possible selection for Port Adelaide with pick six.
The draft will take place using Microsoft Live Meeting technology, enabling them to lodge their selections from their club base.
The NAB AFL Rookie draft will immediately follow the pre-season draft.
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft order is as follows:
1. Melbourne
2. Richmond
3. Fremantle
4. Sydney Swans
5. West Coast
6. Port Adelaide
7. Essendon
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87915/default.aspx
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The draft will take place using Microsoft Live Meeting technology, ............
Aaaarrrrggghhhhhh!! There are a number of viable alternatives - just as good and just as/more economical - why the slutty reference to Microsoft? Is there no end to the incestuous relationship between the AFL, Bigpond and Microsoft? I think I detest them (the AFL and Bigpond and Microsoft) more than journo's. :banghead
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So who is favorite to win this psd spot at RFC?
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So who is favorite to win this psd spot at RFC?
A young kid apparently and one that will be left over after the GC17 pillage, so your guess is as good as mine??????!!
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So who is favorite to win this psd spot at RFC?
A young kid apparently and one that will be left over after the GC17 pillage, so your guess is as good as mine??????!!
Perhaps I am wrong but don't we get our PSD pick before GC jump in and pillage the Rookie Draft with the first 5 choices?
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So who is favorite to win this psd spot at RFC?
A young kid apparently and one that will be left over after the GC17 pillage, so your guess is as good as mine??????!!
Perhaps I am wrong but don't we get our PSD pick before GC jump in and pillage the Rookie Draft with the first 5 choices?
Yeah that could be it actually.
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The draft will take place using Microsoft Live Meeting technology, ............
Aaaarrrrggghhhhhh!! There are a number of viable alternatives - just as good and just as/more economical - why the slutty reference to Microsoft? Is there no end to the incestuous relationship between the AFL, Bigpond and Microsoft? I think I detest them (the AFL and Bigpond and Microsoft) more than journo's. :banghead
I'm with you on all of that smokey.
So who is favorite to win this psd spot at RFC?
A young kid apparently and one that will be left over after the GC17 pillage, so your guess is as good as mine??????!!
Perhaps I am wrong but don't we get our PSD pick before GC jump in and pillage the Rookie Draft with the first 5 choices?
Yeah that could be it actually.
Gold coast dont have a pick in the PSD from my understanding, just the rookie draft. They have also said publicly that they will be looking to recycled players in the rookie draft, so ther may not be the pillage of kids you expect.
If richmond are interested in Justin whathisname from up that way, I wonder if they will take him in the PSD to keep Gold Coast's grubby hands off him?
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Perhaps I am wrong but don't we get our PSD pick before GC jump in and pillage the Rookie Draft with the first 5 choices?
Absolutely correct :thumbsup
PSD first then the rookie draft where GC17 have the frist 5 picks
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We will still select a kid in the PSD though, thats what the RFC have said.
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What date/day is the PSD and Rookie draft on please, I know they are on next week on the same day but when..... thank you??
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What date/day is the PSD and Rookie draft on please, I know they are on next week on the same day but when..... thank you??
Tuesday 15th Dec @ 10am (Melbourne)
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IMO
1)Panos
2)Grimes
3)Patrick
4)Dare
If GC take mature aged players and they need to if they want to protect the young kids we should get 2 of these boys.
I also believe we should also have a look for a project ruckman.
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IMO
1)Panos
2)Grimes
3)Patrick
4)Dare
If GC take mature aged players and they need to if they want to protect the young kids we should get 2 of these boys.
I also believe we should also have a look for a project ruckman.
Fair chance Patrick will go to GC camboon - unless we take him in the PSD but I can't see that happening.
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with our Pre-Season pick, i would like us to take the best available midfielder or best available tall defender.
however, i am a fan of Matthew Panos, so i would like him!
you can never have enough tall forwards!
but it does look like Richmond will draft a player who is currently training with us with the un-offical information being Grimes is that player who will be
drafted in the Pre-Season.
:)
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What date/day is the PSD and Rookie draft on please, I know they are on next week on the same day but when..... thank you??
Tuesday 15th Dec @ 10am (Melbourne)
Thanks torch.... :thumbsup
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What date/day is the PSD and Rookie draft on please, I know they are on next week on the same day but when..... thank you??
Tuesday 15th Dec @ 10am (Melbourne)
Thanks torch.... :thumbsup
no worries WA Tiger!
Rookie Draft @ 10:20am and probably the best way to watch or listen is on the AFL website and maybe radio here in Melbourne (SEN).
however not to sure about WA radio?
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What date/day is the PSD and Rookie draft on please, I know they are on next week on the same day but when..... thank you??
Tuesday 15th Dec @ 10am (Melbourne)
Thanks torch.... :thumbsup
no worries WA Tiger!
Rookie Draft @ 10:20am and probably the best way to watch or listen is on the AFL website and maybe radio here in Melbourne (SEN).
however not to sure about WA radio?
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Don't worry about it being on the radio over here they will probably play Julie Andrews greatest hits instead.. :scream. I will log onto SEN or the web as you said.
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I would also add Carey to my list. Very handy mid - 181 cm inside player- look him up on youtube and let me know your thoughts.
GC keep saying they will take mature aged rookies so if we we dont get Patrick (Essendon) I still think we have a good chance at picking up two good kids.
Panos looks the good to me, but have a look at his footage on youtube and let me know what you think?
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I would also add Carey to my list. Very handy mid - 181 cm inside player- look him up on youtube and let me know your thoughts.
GC keep saying they will take mature aged rookies so if we we dont get Patrick (Essendon) I still think we have a good chance at picking up two good kids.
Panos looks the good to me, but have a look at his footage on youtube and let me know what you think?
I liked the look of Panos in the U18 champs as a midsized forward but for some reason the word around is AFL club recruiters think he is a one-trick pony and not tall enough to play key position. Have seen far worse rookie picks.
As a guess I would have Grimes as our PSD pick. Maybe GC17 might grab Kadhelfelt if we wait to grab him in the rookie draft but whoever we don't pick up in the PSD could be gone by our first rookie pick.
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Panos looks ok doesn't he, just saw the video footage of him.
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Majak Daw will spend this week training with North and then the Bulldogs according to the Herald-Sun.
Kyle Hartigan, Michael Barlow and Johnny Rayner are with Essendon according to BF.
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I find it hard to get excited over the pre-season draft.
2003 we passed
2004
Ben Marsh (Pick 4) from Adelaide Crows
Luke Weller (Pick 11) from Brisbane Lions
2005
Trent Knobel (Pick 1) from StKilda
2006
Matthew White (Pick 5 from the Calder Cannons)
2007
Kent Kingsley (Pick 6, Recruited from Geelong)
2008
Ben Cousins (Pick 6 from the WCE)
and this year we look like picking a kid who was overlooked by all 16 clubs in the National draft.
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Majak Daw will spend this week training with North and then the Bulldogs according to the Herald-Sun.
Gee I reckon this bloke would be worth a rookie pick - a real good prospect for a project ruckman.
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Majak Daw will spend this week training with North and then the Bulldogs according to the Herald-Sun.
Gee I reckon this bloke would be worth a rookie pick - a real good prospect for a project ruckman.
The kid can play.
My only doubt would be his body (anyone know his height/weight?)
I have had a few Sudanese boys down at the rugby club and while they show great athleticism their bodies dont seem to develop much more than his is now. So they do great at jnr level but really start to struggle when they come up against men that have been training for years.
But i still think he is worth a rookie spot to see what he has top offer.
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The kid can play.
My only doubt would be his body (anyone know his height/weight?)
I have had a few Sudanese boys down at the rugby club and while they show great athleticism their bodies dont seem to develop much more than his is now. So they do great at jnr level but really start to struggle when they come up against men that have been training for years.
But i still think he is worth a rookie spot to see what he has top offer.
From the AFL site pre-draft:
Height: 194cm
Weight: 89kg
DOB: 11/03/91
Recruited from: Western Jets
Bio: Athletic and versatile tall who can play at either end and in the ruck. Exceptionally quick for his size and strong in the air. Amazing natural leap. Learning the game and improving rapidly, booting 8 goals in the final three rounds of the TAC Cup in 2009. His 3.03sec 20m and level 13.6 beep test were impressive for a tall forward at the Victorian screening along with his standing jump of 70cm (top 14 per cent).
Stats (Ave) for TAC Cup:
Games K H D M G H/O
13 3 4 7 2 1 7
As a comparison, Paddy Ryder is 3 years older, 197cm and 90kgs.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86935/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86935/default.aspx)
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worth a Rookie spot!
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Eight delisted players in PSD mix
By Luke Holmesby | Tue 08 December, 2009
EIGHT delisted players have nominated for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.
Former Bomber Adam McPhee nominated last week as an uncontracted listed player, and a further seven joined him in the search for a new home before the deadline of 2pm on Tuesday.
Fremantle has already committed to drafting McPhee while former Brisbane Lions Daniel Bradshaw and Joel Macdonald have been promised new homes by the Sydney Swans and Melbourne respectively.
Glenn Dawson (Port Adelaide), Thomas Lee (Adelaide), Henry Playfair (Sydney Swans), Graham Polak (Richmond) and Robert Shirley (Adelaide) have also nominated for the pre-season draft, in which Richmond, West Coast, Port Adelaide and Essendon also have picks.
All players who nominated for the NAB AFL Draft and were not selected are still eligible for the pre-season draft and the NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87942/default.aspx