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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on November 26, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
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Martin and Griffiths were good selections and we need both to come on
5/10 just because we got Martin and Griffiths.
Lets all support the players anyway.
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Obviously too soon to really know but I hope Francis Jackson knows what he's doing
Some pretty handy talls left on the board in those last few rounds and Astbury was taken far too early... although some said the same thing about Post
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seriously how can you possibly look at grading this batch? especially this draft more so than others, very very subjective
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All up....
3. Dustin Martin (Vic, 18, 186cm, 88kg)
19. Ben Griffiths (Vic, 18, 199cm, 98kg)
35. David Astbury (Vic, 18, 195cm, 81kg)
44. Matt Dea (Vic, 18, 186cm, 83kg)
51. Troy Taylor (NT, 18, 189cm, 77kg)
67. Jeromey Webberley (Tas, 21, 181cm, 78 kg)
71. Ben Nason (SA, 20, 179cm, 73 kg)
78. Pass
89*. Robin Nahas (rookie elevation)
94*. Andrew Browne (rookie elevation)
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seriously how can you possibly look at grading this batch? especially this draft more so than others, very very subjective
Its just a bit of fun thats all.
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
:sleep
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I heard him as well. He didnt sound overly confident in his selections..
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FJ is a Greg Beck clone
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
Im not sold on FJ myself but in all fairness he almost sounded chuffed at how our selections went. You are correct that he only mentioned TT after Griffiths but he definitey sounded very happy wth himself. Really hope he knows what hes doing with astbury and Dea who both prob went higher than most draft wachers thought. this is his legacy for better or worse - time will tell
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
He was asked to nominate who of the later picks would really come on or words to that effect. Not a fair question and not fair to name any one individual amongst what are really just speculative picks.
Swawsh or however you spell his name, asked some really stupid questions
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
And yet if FJ was interviewed after the draft and was glowing in his analysis then you would have labelled it as spin from TW, and to stfu and let the results speak for themselves! Why can't anyone be pleased? Troy Taylor at 51 seems a good pick and we got two other good uns in a weak draft, what else do you want?
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i wont grade the players but ill grade Francis Jackson. 0/10
Was just on SEN and really had nothing special to say apart from Griffiths and Martin.
was asked who he was happy with after Martin and all he could say is Griffiths and touched on Taylor.
No mention of the others.
How he still has a job is beyond me
most things are beyond you.
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We went taller than I thought and that is good because our talls at the moment pick themselves and half of them have question marks over them.
I was against the tank, but gee pick 17 would have been useful. If we had got Tapscott @ 17 then I would rate this a very good all-round draft.
I am optimistic.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
Jacko we cant criticise because some people get upset, but year after year the criticisms that get made turn out to be true and we never improve. Hopefully the boys who got picked have success but beyond Martin and Griffiths and to a lesser extent Taylor- I cant really see it happening.
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Except for Dea, the bio of all draftees is good disposal. The number one area that has needed addressing at Richmond for a long time.
A couple of mature age draftees who have already been playing against men rather than boys, so if they can step up a level will be ready to play next year, yet still have a few years of footy left in them.
A couple of taller forwards - both of whom need to be given time before we expect them to have an impact at AFL level.
Forward back and center of the ground covered except ruck.
Overall not too bad IMHO. It's now a matter of sitting back and seeing what the strike rate is
(need a fingers crossed smilie)
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I am very happy
Martin, Griffiths as the tope 2 and then to snare Taylor at 51 was a massive bonus as I thought he'd go earlier than that...
As for the rest - happy to wait and see :thumbsup
Oh and that kid from tassie - from what I've heard he is a very good tackler...hmmmm a HBF who can tackle .... definitely something we need ;D
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after seeing footage of most of our picks (bar webberley and dea) I am quite happy at the way we drafted. Martin speaks for himelf, Griffiths and Astbury fill an urgent list need,Taylor AFL fit wll be a freak, Nason is a natural footballer, super footskills, what we desperately need and even though hes skinny he throws himself in and takes the tackle to the ground. So 5 of the 7 I'm happy enough with, cant comment on the 2 i left out. Now is not the time for doom and gloom, way to early to be saying we'll be here in a few yars saying i told ya so
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Must admit i have had better feelings after a draft but look where we are. I just don't feel the same excitement as other years. Maybe it's just a combination of the year we have had and the thought of the same for the next couple.
Surely with Lids, Cotch, and now Martin in the middle and the right coaching and game plan we can at least start to be competitive.
I almost feel a little numb about the RFC.
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it is notoriously difficult to rate at this point coz they ALL look the goods, I recall thinking Putt looked a gem at this early stage. Some will suprise, some will dissapoint..I like the spread...after aston Martin was wrapt we got a real BIG fella in Griffo with his bulk he will have some presence, god knows we need someone to stand tall...I really like the look of Dea...if he's only played 3 TAC games then whoa he has some talent...looked to be a real natural plucking one grabs from the sky moving the pill on swiftly with GOOD decisions :gotigers
welcome to TIGERLAND boys
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Ok, so there is a few picks from left field, a few picks that were unexpected, a few picks that perhaps could have been or even should have been taken later, a few speculaters, but they all have particular qualities that we are after in our players, read their bios.
Look they could all end up being total crap, no doubt some of them probably will, but if we can get 4 of them to make it then you'd have to be happy with that percentage. Development is now going to be the key here and any failure to develop these kids is going to be the rock that smashes out the keil of the Francis Jackson recruitment ship and sink it. He hasn't played the percentages he's a speculator, he's rolled the dice, is he good enough? time will tell.
P.S Don't bag the boy's, this isn't a French court where your presumed guilty and you have to prove your innocence. All players can play until proven otherwise in the richmond squad.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
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I thought we picked up too many utilities. I thought Astbury was taken very early possibly too early and the club elevating Browne and retaining Graham are investing a heap in that our ruckmen will improve. I'll give the draft 5/10 for now as we will not know the full results of this straight away. I think the concensus is ecstacy over Martin and Griffiths reservations over Astbury and Dey and somewhere in the middle with Taylor with no idea about Nason. Leave it at 5 out of 10.
The success of this draft will hinge on whether Griffiths shoulders hold up to the rigors of AFL. We have a 150+ game player in Martin and that is a certainty, a potential one in Griffiths if his injuries are only and part of his growing body and if one of these other kids stand up and develop and that will be more the minimum from having seven picks. It's obvious we are saving up for a pre season pick. McDonald from Brisbane?
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5.5/10
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Martin - 186cm, 86kg. Strong points - physical, skillful, good kick.
Griffiths - 198cm, 99kg. Strong points - marking, skillful, good kick.
Astbury - 193cm, 79kg. Strong points - marking, skillful, good kick.
Dea - 186cm, 83kg. Strong points - quick, leap, skillful, good kick.
Taylor - 188cm, 75kg. Strong points - agile, marking, skillful, good kick.
Webberley - 181cm, 78kg. Strong points - endurance, defensive pressure, good kick.
Nason - 179cm, 73kg. Strong points - goal sense, defensive pressure, skillful, good kick.
We have picked 1 player under 6 foot and 2 players over 6 foot 5 inches.
So to all those that believe we need height. Tick.
We have picked 1 'rolls royce' midfielder and 2 others who play 'through' the midfield.
So to those who believe we need to bolster the midfield. Tick.
We have picked 3 players who play mainly as forwards and 2 others who can play forward or back.
So to those who believe our forward line was our Achilles heel. Tick.
We have picked 1 player who is a defensive crumbing forward.
So to those who believe we need more goal sneaks. Tick.
We have recruited 6 players with skill as a strong point.
So to those who believe we need more skill. Tick.
We have recruited 7 players with good kicking as a strong point.
So to those who believe we need more precision and penetration with our delivery. Tick.
So all in all, we have done all we can at this point to improve our list. The recruiters have now handballed to the coaching/development department and we all await the outcome with nervous and excited anticipation. And my score? I reckon at his uninformed point I would give them a 7.5 to 8.
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Well just finished watching the draft on Fox afetr I taped it and just finished reading the posts on this forum. As per usual the same people are moaning at what a crap selections, players or whatever we have, honestly you people are wearing really thin on me. If you can't even be prepared to back these young kids in and the people that selected them then IMO you are not fit to be a RFC supporter and we would be better off without you.
Welcome to the club to all our draftees I can't wait to see you in the yellow & black next year, I think we will be surprised at a few of our selections as they might just fire up.
I am happy with the draft and well summed up by Smokey and WP.. :thumbsup
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Martin - 186cm, 86kg. Strong points - physical, skillful, good kick.
Griffiths - 198cm, 99kg. Strong points - marking, skillful, good kick.
Astbury - 193cm, 79kg. Strong points - marking, skillful, good kick.
Dea - 186cm, 83kg. Strong points - quick, leap, skillful, good kick.
Taylor - 188cm, 75kg. Strong points - agile, marking, skillful, good kick.
Webberley - 181cm, 78kg. Strong points - endurance, defensive pressure, good kick.
Nason - 179cm, 73kg. Strong points - goal sense, defensive pressure, skillful, good kick.
We have picked 1 player under 6 foot and 2 players over 6 foot 5 inches.
So to all those that believe we need height. Tick.
We have picked 1 'rolls royce' midfielder and 2 others who play 'through' the midfield.
So to those who believe we need to bolster the midfield. Tick.
We have picked 3 players who play mainly as forwards and 2 others who can play forward or back.
So to those who believe our forward line was our Achilles heel. Tick.
We have picked 1 player who is a defensive crumbing forward.
So to those who believe we need more goal sneaks. Tick.
We have recruited 6 players with skill as a strong point.
So to those who believe we need more skill. Tick.
We have recruited 7 players with good kicking as a strong point.
So to those who believe we need more precision and penetration with our delivery. Tick.
So all in all, we have done all we can at this point to improve our list. The recruiters have now handballed to the coaching/development department and we all await the outcome with nervous and excited anticipation. And my score? I reckon at his uninformed point I would give them a 7.5 to 8.
great post smokey :clapping
we addresed some KPP needs and most importantly all bar 1 (dea) have excellent footskills including the big guys.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
Agree the selection is questionable but before we cry our eyes out Jackstar lets see what the kid is made of first?
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
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Did your club achieve its goals?
afl.com.au
By Jason Phelan | Fri 27 November, 2009
Richmond
With a league-high 10 picks, the Tigers could afford to be a little speculative after securing can't miss prospect Dustin Martin at three and they did just that when they punted on injury-prone forward Ben Griffiths. A true power forward Griffiths could prove a steal if they can get him right. They continued to prepare for life without Matthew Richardson inside forward 50 with their next pick, David Astbury, another tall forward who finished in the top 10 in the kicking test at the draft camp. Matthew Dea, Troy Taylor and Ben Nason are also forwards Damien Hardwick can begin to mould next year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87598/default.aspx
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
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HOW did your club do in this year's AFL Draft? Gold Coast recruiting manager Scott Clayton runs the rule over every team.
RICHMOND:
I know they’d be really happy with Ben Griffiths from Eastern Ranges as their second pick. He and Dustin Martin are ready to play and then there’s a really exciting player in Troy Taylor. When you’ve got as many picks as they have, you’ve got to take some calculated guestimates. Tine will tell with some of them like Matthew Day (sic) and Jeromy Webberley.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-recruiting-manager-scott-clayton-rates-your-clubs-draft/story-fn4hg9de-1225804354655
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
Agree the selection is questionable but before we cry our eyes out Jackstar lets see what the kid is made of first?
What the point in having a team of lighweights :banghead
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
You can get away with playing one small in game, not 5 like we do
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
Problem is that the people your condemning have been right just about every single time and this is reflected by the continuing poor performance of the team, year after year.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
Have to say I agree
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
You cant really use that as an example, of course Nahas would be rated, gun forward.
BUT have a look at the last few Grand Finals, you can have 1 or 2 but you need the bigger bodies to get accross the line otherwise you will be smashed.
Mate, I am the first to admit I really know nothing about these kids, but if it's a line ball you have to go the bigger body, specially when you have a team like ours.
Heard Hardwick was after skills (Kicking), fair enough, but you have to stay on your feet to get a kick.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
You can get away with playing one small in game, not 5 like we do
And which AFL team are you the coach or head recruiter of Jack?
The Richmond recruiters, coaches and administrators have studied the form of all draftees, know what game plan they want at Richmond and have made their choices accordingly. They survive and will become Tiger hereos if they are right or get sacked if they are wrong.
They make a lot more sense than any of the unqualified and non-sensical crap that you put up with no consequence.
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I think that we should get behind our new young players.
So what if they are light weights. Other team will be throwing in a few of their own to.
And they will no doubt bung on some weigth and muscle over the summer.
I don't know nothing about any apart from Nahas and he proved he could handle bigger bodies chasing him.
So come on lets give them a chance in the firering line.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
Are you not happy with nahas? Why can everyone just be happy with what they have done, i mean they did the homework. ;D
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Given Martin & Astbury both admitted that they had calls from the club saying that they'd be picking them, plus Nason also had a call from the club right before the draft means that these guys must have been our targets all along. Its been said that Griffiths also knew Richmond were pretty keen on him. Perhaps we missed out on one or two others who got taken earlier before our next pick, however it appears we got the players we wanted.
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For those who are complaining about the 'lightweights' that we apparently drafted, 41 of the 91 picks weigh 79 kgs or less. So if the theories about drafting 'lightweights' holds true then we can immediately discount nearly half of this years draft picks as being duds including the #1 pick and 9 of the top 20. And more interestingly, one of those 'lightweights' was Rhan Hooper who some thought we should chase as a good pick up! And even more interestingly the lightest draftee at 67 kgs was our own Robin Nahas!! I wonder how many of the 'lightweights' complainants think he is a waste of a pick?
We picked up 4 of these 'lightweights' - 2 of whom are 188cm and 193cm tall - so can I indulge my stupidity and naivety and predict that these 2 will grow sufficiently to suit the tempo of AFL? That leaves us with 2 'lightweights' - both of whom have played well (1 of them very well) at state senior level. One of them reads like a direct replacement for Raines and one as a backup or complement to Nahas. You might remember Nahas - the risky 'lightweight' we took last year that was a revelation who many claim was the only highlight of the year! And yet when we take 2 players using similar criteria this year the recruiters get howled down!
News alert for some people - every single draft choice is a risk and almost every draft choice is a kid who has had no body development occur yet, either naturally or via diet and training.
Fair dinkum - some people have nothing better to do than whinge. I can just picture us winning a grand final and the first thing out of their mouths will be a complaint that we didn't win it by enough.
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It's easy to bash after the fact, Jack. Maybe if you had nominated your players for our picks BEFORE the draft, and they had been available at those picks, then you'd have a case. Currently, however, you're just spouting crap for the sake of it.
Players can put on muscle. It's a lot harder to develop awareness and foward-thinking, which this group has in droves.
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For those who are complaining about the 'lightweights' that we apparently drafted, 41 of the 91 picks weigh 79 kgs or less. So if the theories about drafting 'lightweights' holds true then we can immediately discount nearly half of this years draft picks as being duds including the #1 pick and 9 of the top 20. And more interestingly, one of those 'lightweights' was Rhan Hooper who some thought we should chase as a good pick up! And even more interestingly the lightest draftee at 67 kgs was our own Robin Nahas!! I wonder how many of the 'lightweights' complainants think he is a waste of a pick?
We picked up 4 of these 'lightweights' - 2 of whom are 188cm and 193cm tall - so can I indulge my stupidity and naivety and predict that these 2 will grow sufficiently to suit the tempo of AFL? That leaves us with 2 'lightweights' - both of whom have played well (1 of them very well) at state senior level. One of them reads like a direct replacement for Raines and one as a backup or complement to Nahas. You might remember Nahas - the risky 'lightweight' we took last year that was a revelation who many claim was the only highlight of the year! And yet when we take 2 players using similar criteria this year the recruiters get howled down!
News alert for some people - every single draft choice is a risk and almost every draft choice is a kid who has had no body development occur yet, either naturally or via diet and training.
Fair dinkum - some people have nothing better to do than whinge. I can just picture us winning a grand final and the first thing out of their mouths will be a complaint that we didn't win it by enough.
Enough said I think, surely after this post by Smokey you moaners, whingers and winers should finally realise some of us have had enough of you putting this club down. It's just never stopped since Wallace took over, jut GO AWAY!!!!!
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And Wallace was a great success ;D
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And Wallace was a great success ;D
Thats got stuff all to do with what I am trying to get accross...... :banghead
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It's going to make watching Coburg a lot more interesting than the last few years that's for sure.
Good luck to all the boys ......
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And Wallace was a great success ;D
Thats got stuff all to do with what I am trying to get accross...... :banghead
with all that headbanging just wondering wont you need some panadols by now ;D
In the end, this is just a forum, people take it way to serious. everyones entitled to their opinion and people should respect others views. I respect what others have had to say thats why I put up the thread with what I would have done differently, but in the end, its just opinions and it doesnt matter. In time we will find out whether we are on the right track or not. All isnt lost by the way Griffiths will be a good full forward, Astbury I see as being more a Key defender. We have Post who could probably play at CHF and we have Rance who if he can improve his kicking should do really well at CHB. We have Vickery as ruck option going forward along with Browne and we're getting a good midfield together, Deledio, Foley, Cotchin, Tambling, Collins, Martin et al. So everyone should relax, its just a forum thats all.
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
You can get away with playing one small in game, not 5 like we do
And which AFL team are you the coach or head recruiter of Jack?
The Richmond recruiters, coaches and administrators have studied the form of all draftees, know what game plan they want at Richmond and have made their choices accordingly. They survive and will become Tiger hereos if they are right or get sacked if they are wrong.
They make a lot more sense than any of the unqualified and non-sensical crap that you put up with no consequence.
Do you really want to know ??? ;)
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
sorry you know nothing about football & grasp onto hope
well l gunna tell you that 73kg players dont make the grade were l come from fool
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
So you don't rate Nahas Jack as a good pick up
He's under 185cm and 80kgs ;)
You can get away with playing one small in game, not 5 like we do
And which AFL team are you the coach or head recruiter of Jack?
The Richmond recruiters, coaches and administrators have studied the form of all draftees, know what game plan they want at Richmond and have made their choices accordingly. They survive and will become Tiger hereos if they are right or get sacked if they are wrong.
They make a lot more sense than any of the unqualified and non-sensical crap that you put up with no consequence.
you asked the questions & answered them as well lol
like the ones before them they will be sacked or leave disgraced ;D
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It's easy to bash after the fact, Jack. Maybe if you had nominated your players for our picks BEFORE the draft, and they had been available at those picks, then you'd have a case. Currently, however, you're just spouting crap for the sake of it.
Players can put on muscle. It's a lot harder to develop awareness and foward-thinking, which this group has in droves.
yeah ;D remember David Bourke
not every player is born with good chemistry ;D
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Enough said I think, surely after this post by Smokey you moaners, whingers and winers should finally realise some of us have had enough of you putting this club down. It's just never stopped since Wallace took over, jut GO AWAY!!!!!
Seriously you need to learn something about football.
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Confucius say ... Doggie missile is never far from owners boot
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
sorry you know nothing about football & grasp onto hope
well l gunna tell you that 73kg players dont make the grade were l come from fool
They do make the grade actually, AUSKICK!
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would you not draft the Morrish medal winner & take a punt on him
what is with TAC Morrish medalist that they cant seem to attract attention by clubs
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
thats pretty sad TM....
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l prefer to watch some good boxing than waste my time listening to a draft out of football season
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Ben Cousins is only 78-80kg and he's ripped
When you're under 6 foot as a 17-18 year old its pretty common to be low 70kgs
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would you not draft the Morrish medal winner & take a punt on him
what is with TAC Morrish medalist that they cant seem to attract attention by clubs
a kid who is just over 170cm?? they are always short is why they never attract clubs.
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And Wallace was a great success ;D
Thats got stuff all to do with what I am trying to get accross...... :banghead
with all that headbanging just wondering wont you need some panadols by now ;D
In the end, this is just a forum, people take it way to serious. everyones entitled to their opinion and people should respect others views. I respect what others have had to say thats why I put up the thread with what I would have done differently, but in the end, its just opinions and it doesnt matter. In time we will find out whether we are on the right track or not. All isnt lost by the way Griffiths will be a good full forward, Astbury I see as being more a Key defender. We have Post who could probably play at CHF and we have Rance who if he can improve his kicking should do really well at CHB. We have Vickery as ruck option going forward along with Browne and we're getting a good midfield together, Deledio, Foley, Cotchin, Tambling, Collins, Martin et al. So everyone should relax, its just a forum thats all.
No worries with people having their say ramps, but the conntinual baging of players that I might add have not even arrived at the club is becoming really boring. Constructive critisism fair enough but the personal slagging of players because individules did not agree with the pick is down right immature.!!
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
sorry you know nothing about football & grasp onto hope
well l gunna tell you that 73kg players dont make the grade were l come from fool
I was going to keep the personal side out of it and stay on topic but I do not appreciate being called a fool from a low life such as yourself. It has become quite clear to me that you may share a brain with a flea when it comes to football. Actually the flea probably has more of the brain. Do they actually breath air where you come from.... :whistle
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Enough said I think, surely after this post by Smokey you moaners, whingers and winers should finally realise some of us have had enough of you putting this club down. It's just never stopped since Wallace took over, jut GO AWAY!!!!!
Seriously you need to learn something about football.
Seriously, breath in, breath out, breath in....... and so on... :wallywink
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l prefer to watch some good boxing than waste my time listening to a draft out of football season
Pitty you don't feel the same about football forums outside of football season.... ::)
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Funniest thing about a website is posters who keep replying to there own post :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :jump :jump :invasion
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Funniest thing about a website is posters who keep replying to there own post :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :jump :jump :invasion
I was replying to others via quoting, can't you understand that, you may wan't to read your post that I am quoting because it doesn't make sense.
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What a huge online gimmick it would be if someone started a thread where he or she just replied to him or herself ... its a brilliant gimmick :lol
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What a huge online gimmick it would be if someone started a thread where he or she just replied to him or herself ... its a brilliant gimmick :lol
Ramps, some imbeciles on here already do.
By the way, coffee is next week, :shh
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Enough of your moronic responses and back on topic.
Well done again to the RFC, great recruiting in what was supposedly a shallow draft, well done for thinking outside the box and selecting players that are versatile instead of limited as to where they can play. :thumbsup
6-7/10 from me, can't wait to see the boys play in the Yellow and Black and time will tell!!
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Enough of your moronic responses and back on topic.
Well done again to the RFC, great recruiting in what was supposedly a shallow draft, well done for thinking outside the box and selecting players that are versatile instead of limited as to where they can play. :thumbsup
6-7/10 from me, can't wait to see the boys play in the Yellow and Black and time will tell!!
What's this "back on topic" crap?
That's what we have Mods for.
:bow to the Mods.
:cheers to the Mods
:thumbsup to the Mods
:chuck to WAT
Long live the Mods.
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:lol :rollin
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Enough of your moronic responses and back on topic.
Well done again to the RFC, great recruiting in what was supposedly a shallow draft, well done for thinking outside the box and selecting players that are versatile instead of limited as to where they can play. :thumbsup
6-7/10 from me, can't wait to see the boys play in the Yellow and Black and time will tell!!
What's this "back on topic" crap?
That's what we have Mods for.
:bow to the Mods.
:cheers to the Mods
:thumbsup to the Mods
:chuck to WAT
Long live the Mods.
:santa :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
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C'mon mods, how is the support going???????????? :scream :scream Seem to be onto me pretty quick lately??????
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C'mon mods, how is the support going???????????? :scream :scream Seem to be onto me pretty quick lately??????
C'mon I thought it was funny.
Lighten up FFS.
:help
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C'mon mods, how is the support going???????????? :scream :scream Seem to be onto me pretty quick lately??????
C'mon I thought it was funny.
Lighten up FFS.
:help
Yeah I thought it was stuffing magic.... Just too much poo about players form certain people on this forum is wearing thin and those players have not even trained with us yet. We are supposed to follow and support the WHOLE club but certain stuffwits who should in their minds run the club just can't let it go.
Thats not funny anymore mate!!
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C'mon mods, how is the support going???????????? :scream :scream Seem to be onto me pretty quick lately??????
C'mon I thought it was funny.
Lighten up FFS.
:help
Yeah I thought it was effing magic.... Just too much poo about players form certain people on this forum is wearing thin and those players have not even trained with us yet. We are supposed to follow and support the WHOLE club but certain effwits who should in their minds run the club just can't let it go.
Thats not funny anymore mate!!
Now that Jay Shultz is gone, same with Cleve and Jon, TW and Patto; the more out spoken members of this forum need to focus their attention elsewhere and what better place to start than the raw, inexperienced, young draftees?
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C'mon mods, how is the support going???????????? :scream :scream Seem to be onto me pretty quick lately??????
C'mon I thought it was funny.
Lighten up FFS.
:help
Yeah I thought it was effing magic.... Just too much poo about players form certain people on this forum is wearing thin and those players have not even trained with us yet. We are supposed to follow and support the WHOLE club but certain effwits who should in their minds run the club just can't let it go.
Thats not funny anymore mate!!
Now that Jay Shultz is gone, same with Cleve and Jon, TW and Patto; the more out spoken members of this forum need to focus their attention elsewhere and what better place to start than the raw, inexperienced, young draftees?
Yeah weak as pee aren't they GR 12.....
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
sorry you know nothing about football & grasp onto hope
well l gunna tell you that 73kg players dont make the grade were l come from fool
I was going to keep the personal side out of it and stay on topic but I do not appreciate being called a fool from a low life such as yourself. It has become quite clear to me that you may share a brain with a flea when it comes to football. Actually the flea probably has more of the brain. Do they actually breath air where you come from.... :whistle
:rollin your a football brain trust ;D
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watched boxing all night cause l knew we end up with more weeds in our backyard ;D
drafting a 73kg player lol :banghead
my 14 year old weighs more with no fat on him :rollin
Here comes another one, good to see you got nothing positive to say again TM, maybe you and a few others should start your own forum up. You could call it the "Continuous Bagging of the RFC, Players, Recruiters and Everything That Stands For The RFC Forum"
sorry you know nothing about football & grasp onto hope
well l gunna tell you that 73kg players dont make the grade were l come from fool
I was going to keep the personal side out of it and stay on topic but I do not appreciate being called a fool from a low life such as yourself. It has become quite clear to me that you may share a brain with a flea when it comes to football. Actually the flea probably has more of the brain. Do they actually breath air where you come from.... :whistle
:rollin your a football brain trust ;D
:sleep
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It would be nice to let the young fellows actual get through their first raining before writing them off don't you think?! :shh
Martin looks like a quality midfielder to compliment Lids, Cotch, Foley, Bling and hopefully Collins.
Griffiths could be a superstar if he gets his body right. I am cautiously optimistic about this fellow. Heard that his surgery was very successful.
Our next pick was also a great get IMHO. Tall half forward who leads and marks well and, most importantly, is a terrific kick.
Taylor could be the steal of the century if we can keep him on the straight and narrow. Collingwood convinced him to not join the GC and we snatched him - Win/Win I say :thumbsup
Beyond this pick was all speculative, especially in a shallow draft, but could be excellent given their age and experience playing against men already.
I am really excited about the potential of these players and until time tells me otherwise , I think they all deserve a chance to develop and perform.
Stripes
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Great post Smokey!!
Just read some thoughts on other forums and there are some real positive posts regarding our draft selections, great to read instead of the usual suspects here. No doubt that sentence will be quoted.. :whistle
Here is the post with a link:
I love the fact that our recruiting team were brave enough not to do just what everyone said we should do in terms of later picks and took people no one had heard of out of shear instinct and belief in themselves. Our club is starting to look like it is prepared to lead and not be led by the media or outside opinion. These are good signs, not talking glory days, just a club i can tell my kids they can be proud of.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=9710&page=266
Well said, isn't it funny that most of the whingers on this site were screaming out to re-build this club with youth and not pick up recycled players. Well thats what they did and its still not good enough for you lot is it. Richmond is changing people so get on board or go away.
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I think that those who prey on the weak spots of other posts are as pathetic and cowardly as a king hitting sniper on the football field. Got nothing to say unless it is to wait and attack someone elses view. Clear sign of low intelligence.
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The argument over player weights is redundant. We've had solid players (80kg or more)who have also not made it. Dean Putt, Cleve Hughes, Dean Limbach, Daniel Sipthorp & Kyle Archibald just to name a few. Patto and Schulz didn't set the world on fire either. I'd take a lightweight kid that can kick and run any day over a plank.
Young players also need time to develop. Look at Luke McGuane as an example. Recruited at 76kg. Current playing weight 86kg
No further questions your Honour.
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The argument over player weights is redundant. We've had solid players (80kg or more)who have also not made it. Dean Putt, Cleve Hughes, Dean Limbach, Daniel Sipthorp & Kyle Archibald just to name a few. Patto and Schulz didn't set the world on fire either. I'd take a lightweight kid that can kick and run any day over a plank.
Young players also need time to develop. Look at Luke McGuane as an example. Recruited at 76kg. Current playing weight 86kg
No further questions your Honour.
takes you back to development
Patto will develope at the Saints & l can see him doing well there
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total waste f time recruiting players under 80kg and under 185cm
When will this club ever learn.
Cant beleive we picked a 21 yo at 181cm and under 80kilos :banghead
Francis Jackson shouldnt have a job I am afraid.
We already have a group of lighweights on our list and we go and add to them
all aboard. :rollin
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I suppose while we are discussing the relative merits of the draft picks we shouldn't forget that we have another new player in 20 year old Mitch Farmer. With so many changes to the list and many of them high profile, it is going to seem quite different for the first few games next year.
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takes you back to development
Patto will develope at the Saints & l can see him doing well there
Only if they can perform a lobotomy.
Two problems for Patto in my book
1) Lack of core strength for a man his size - means his balance and movement are poor and he is poor below his knees.
2) No footy smarts.
Can fix 1 over a year or two but very surprised if two changes. Not saying it wasn't poor development that was the problem, but reckon he's missed the boat now.
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takes you back to development
Patto will develope at the Saints & l can see him doing well there
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the Saints just called, they look forward to you signing up as a member TM :D