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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 08, 2010, 04:57:14 PM
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Kingy has been charged with a level 3 striking charge (on Travis Cloke). If he accepts with early plea he cops 2 weeks. If he challenges he risks 3 weeks.
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I think the points system needs a revamp for special cases like this - points should be taken off your record for striking anyone from Collingwood ;D
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Tigers' Jake King cops two-game ban
* Staff writer
* From: Herald Sun
* March 08, 2010 4:55PM
Richmond's Jake King scuffles with Collingwood's Travis Cloke. Picture: Michael Dodge Source: Herald Sun
EVIDENCE given by Travis Cloke was a key part of the AFL's decision to suspend Richmond's Jake King for striking the Magpie forward.
The AFL's Match Review Panel hit the feisty onballer with a two-game ban for a grade three striking offence during the fourth quarter of Friday's NAB Challenge match at Visy Park.
As there was no clear vision of the incident, the AFL said charge was laid after an investigation which included evidence from Cloke.
Due to his poor record, King cannot reduce the ban below two weeks with a guilty plea.
The suspension must be served in the home and away season, meaning he would miss the Round 1 clash with Carlton and second round game against the Western Bulldogs.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/03/08/1225838/334696-jake-king.jpg)
Richmond's Jake King scuffles with Collingwood's Travis Cloke. Picture: Michael Dodge Source: Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-jake-king-cops-two-game-ban/story-e6frf9jf-1225838329563
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Coburg will miss him.
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Clokes a dog. Hope it hurt.
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Yeah, but if Jake King played for another club everyone here would hate him, Why? because he is a cheap sniping little thug.
LOL @MM
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Yeah, but if Jake King played for another club everyone here would hate him, Why? because he is a cheap sniping little thug.
True but he doesn't so I'm all for him :thumbsup
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What about the haymaker Chris Dawes threw at Mitch Farmer's face/shoulder area at Legends stand side third quarter. Poor Mitch had the trainer attend to him straight away and was proppy for the next few minutes. ::)
Sure if you do the crime do the time no matter who it is but FFS how I've heard nothing on this astounds me. All Mitch tried to do is tackle him and Dawes was using his forearm to shoo Mitch away. Those around me both Pies and Tigs all gasped when seeing that. ::)
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Jake King could miss start of season
March 8, 2010 - 5:44PM
Richmond tagger Jake King could miss the start of the AFL season after being charged with striking Collingwood forward Travis Cloke during last Friday's practice game at Princes Park.
The league's match review panel investigated the incident and interviewed Cloke because the video footage was inconclusive, and charged King with a level-three strike.
King's poor record, which included a two-game suspension for striking Collingwood's Alan Didak in round 20 last year, meant his tally of demerit points ballooned to 309.06, enough for a three-game suspension.
King can plead guilty and reduce the penalty to two games, or challenge the charge at the tribunal, where he would risk being suspended for three games.
Any suspension must be served in the home-and-away season, which means the Tigers could be without King for premiership games against Carlton, the Western Bulldogs and possibly Sydney.
King was the only player reported in practice matches over the weekend, and no players were booked during the two pre-season semi-finals.
Richmond has until Tuesday morning to inform the league whether they will contest the charge at the tribunal.
(http://images.smh.com.au/2010/03/08/1203315/king-jake-collingwood_420-420x0.jpg)
Richmond's Jake King clashes with Collingwood opponents last Friday. Photo: Vince Caligiuri
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-king-could-miss-start-of-season-20100308-psgr.html
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King’s charge:
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 20 per cent to 250 points. He also has 39.06 points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 309.06 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 231.80 points and a two-match sanction
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/90303/default.aspx
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Coburg will miss him.
EVen though the charge is rubbish if it's based on hearsay from Travis Cloke.
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i think the Cloke's v King's battle has just heated up!
what a DOG Cloke is!
and because Dawes plays for Collingwood, they are fine!
Farmer should complain to the AFL.
:)
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Richmond has asked the AFL for an extra 24 hours to discuss King's options with key personnel who were unavailable due to yesterday's public holiday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-jake-king-cops-two-game-ban/story-e6frf9jf-1225838329563
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King’s charge:
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 20 per cent to 250 points. He also has 39.06 points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 309.06 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 231.80 points and a two-match sanction
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/90303/default.aspx
How does 250 + 39.06 = 309.06???
Shouldn't it be 289.06?
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i think the Cloke's v King's battle has just heated up!
what a DOG Cloke is!
and because Dawes plays for Collingwood, they are fine!
Farmer should complain to the AFL.
:)
None of the Cloke's are dogs. Dogs are renowned for their loyalty :lol
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So True RR, so true. If the clokes had a dog, it would be loyal and faithful, even to them.
It frustrates me the way dogs are denigrated as such - perhaps people need to start using the term," A Clokes act".
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McGuane should have spoken up last year when Cloke bit him.
So can King tell the AFL that Cloke hit him first or doesn't King get any say?
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So can King tell the AFL that Cloke hit him first or doesn't King get any say?
The Club has asked for extra time so it sounds like we are interviewing witnesses or reviewing the footage. No news on that as far as I know (?). Kingy is no loss for us in round 1 so it's no skin off our nose but in fairness to him Cloke was hardly innocent in all this going by the Hun photos. Two Pies had Kingy pinned down on his back.
ps. A belated happy birthday for yesterday btw wayne :thumbsup :birthday
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Another example of Collingwood run competition and media. ::)
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Richmond's Jake King dobbed in by Collingwood's Travis Cloke
* Mark Stevens
* From: Herald Sun
* March 10, 2010
TENSIONS between Richmond and Collingwood are close to boiling point amid "dobbing" and biting allegations.
Magpie forward Travis Cloke broke the "code of silence" by twice lagging on rugged Richmond defender Jake King.
In an explosive aftermath to Friday's practice match at Visy Park, it also emerged yesterday that Tigers recruit Dylan Grimes received a rude introduction to league football.
The teenager was allegedly bitten on the back by an unknown Collingwood opponent.
King is facing a two-match ban after Cloke's damning evidence and will today decide if he fights to clear his name at the tribunal.
Cloke approached an umpire during Friday's match and protested that King had struck him to the face.
It is understood the umpire heard a noise behind play, sensing an incident had happened, but did not see it.
Once the complaint was made, the umpire was obliged to fire off a notice of investigation.
Cloke was interviewed again over the weekend and refused to back down on the allegations.
A source last night said of Cloke: "He sang like a bird."
As there was no video footage of the incident, Cloke's evidence was the key factor in King being offered two weeks by the match review panel.
Players have a history of backing down once confronted by an investigator, but Cloke did not hold back when given a second chance to tell his story.
Historically players help opponents in investigations, coming down with a sudden case of amnesia, but it is understood they have been warned that any complaints on match day must be backed up when questions are asked later.
King has a history with Collingwood, copping two matches in Round 20 last season after an altercation with Magpie Alan Didak.
Cloke was also at the centre of controversy in that game.
Tiger Luke McGuane claimed he was bitten by Cloke in that game, but did not go through with the allegations.
If King decides to roll the dice at the tribunal and loses, he will be suspended for three matches.
Given he is in the final year of a contract and fighting for his career, it would be a savage blow to miss the early rounds of the season.
THE bad blood between Richmond and Collingwood all started on a "hot" August afternoon at the MCG last year.
- with Michael Warner
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-jake-king-dobbed-in-by-collingwoods-travis-cloke/story-e6frf9jf-1225838900287
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Collingwood, Richmond tribunal feud on hold
* Michael Warner
* From: Herald Sun
* March 10, 2010
THE bad blood between Richmond and Collingwood all started on a "hot" August afternoon at the MCG last year.
It was the day the Tigers were humiliated by 93-points, Jake King ignited a $24,000 melee and Nick Maxwell accused his opponents of using "gutless" tactics.
"It was pretty average on Richmond's part, I think," the Pies skipper declared in the aftermath of the fiery Round 20 encounter.
"A lot of their players were prepared to just go out and fight, obviously knowing we couldn't fight back. Given we've got finals to play, we can't really do anything."
The feisty King was reported back then for striking Alan Didak, sparking a wild melee involving almost every player on the ground. It cost 10 Magpie players $13,800 and eight Tigers another $9600.
In the same game, Tom Hislop copped a one-week ban for a crude elbow to the head of Shane O'Bree, while Luke McGuane appeared to accuse Travis Cloke of biting his hand as they wrestled.
McGuane declined an umpire's offer to go through with his complaint - a point not lost on bemused Richmond officials yesterday in the wake of last Friday's bitter re-match at Visy Park.
It was thanks to Cloke's post-game evidence that King could today find himself on the end of yet another two-week holiday.
Cloke first approached an umpire during Friday's game complaining that he had been struck. When asked about the incident again by AFL investigators at the weekend, Cloke supposedly gave the league enough ammunition to put King out.
But those looking forward to the next instalment of footy Fight Club will be sorely disappointed - the Tigers and Pies don't meet again until Round 17 in July.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-richmond-tribunal-feud-on-hold/story-e6frf9jf-1225838903313
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July can't come soon enough. I hope we belt the living snot out of the Maggotpoo filth this time 'round.
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what a bunch of sooki lalas
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None of the Cloke's are dogs. Dogs are renowned for their loyalty :lol
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific in my original assertion.
Cloak is a mangy, rabid, flea-bitten, mutt.
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None of the Cloke's are dogs. Dogs are renowned for their loyalty :lol
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific in my original assertion.
Cloak is a mangy, rabid, flea-bitten, mutt.
Yeah, and he clearly needs to be muzzled too.
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None of the Cloke's are dogs. Dogs are renowned for their loyalty :lol
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific in my original assertion.
Cloak is a mangy, rabid, flea-bitten, mutt.
Yep couldn't agree more with that.
But I do feel sorry for the real animal with all that going on with it but not Cloke&Daggers.
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A source last night said of Cloke: "He sang like a bird."
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/tweetycloke2.JPG)
Tweety and Sylvester
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The news just said Kingy is contesting the striking charge and so is risking a 3-week suspension. The hearing will be held next Tuesday night.
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The news just said Kingy is contesting the striking charge and so is risking a 3-week suspension. The hearing will be held next Tuesday night.
Right decision.
Make Cloke turn up and be seen for the dog that he is.
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The news just said Kingy is contesting the striking charge and so is risking a 3-week suspension. The hearing will be held next Tuesday night.
Good idea.
Imagine if the legal system worked like that. No evidence, just the word of the victim.
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Bring him in for questioning in front of the QCs and Jake King.
Make the squib squirm. :thumbsup
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Look what came up for me after a recent search on Google for this douchebag ;D
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/79/clokesearch.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/clokesearch.jpg/)
It just proves the point that Google is the most intuitive and up to date search engine on the planet!!! ;D
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Imagine if the legal system worked like that. No evidence, just the word of the victim.
The media system certainly does.
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Look what came up for me after a recent search on Google for this douchebag ;D
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It just proves the point that Google is the most intuitive and up to date search engine on the planet!!! ;D
:lol :lol :lol
Funniest thing I have seen in ages Tiga. And how funny that its true! :o
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Richmond's Jake King dobbed in by Collingwood's Travis Cloke
* Mark Stevens
* From: Herald Sun
* March 10, 2010
TENSIONS between Richmond and Collingwood are close to boiling point amid "dobbing" and biting allegations.
Magpie forward Travis Cloke broke the "code of silence" by twice lagging on rugged Richmond defender Jake King.
Great, no nonsense reporting by Mark Stevens. Telling it like it is, just what journos are supposed to do.
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Look what came up for me after a recent search on Google for this douchebag ;D
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It just proves the point that Google is the most intuitive and up to date search engine on the planet!!! ;D
:lol :lol :lol
Funniest thing I have seen in ages Tiga. And how funny that its true! :o
:lol that's hilarious tiga :rollin :thatsgold
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I, for one, am glad that this issue has come up.
I had actually forgotten how much I hated Collingwood, I had even made a couple of complimentary remarks over their young fellas such as Beams, Anthony and Sidebottom.
But they can forget it now, I feel like re reading the Jack Dyer story, just so I can read the excerpt that describes how much enjoyment Captain Blood got out of belting Jock McHale's son right in front of him at Vic Park.
Dogs.
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The news just said Kingy is contesting the striking charge and so is risking a 3-week suspension. The hearing will be held next Tuesday night.
Good idea.
Imagine if the legal system worked like that. No evidence, just the word of the victim.
Especially when there's photos of the "victim" having the defendant pinned on his back on the ground. Now that Cloke has lifted the players' code you'd presume Kingy will return the favour at the hearing.
Kingy would also know being rubbed out at the start of the year would see him at Coburg for the rest of the season until delisted. He's really got nothing to lose in risking another week.
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King and his advocate will be the only ones showing up on Tuesday night according to SEN. Cloke doesn't have to be at the hearing unless we put in a request to the tribunal chairman for Cloke to be there and then the chairman decides whether Cloke has to come or not.
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King and his advocate will be the only ones showing up on Tuesday night according to SEN. Cloke doesn't have to be at the hearing unless we put in a request to the tribunal chairman for Cloke to be there and then the chairman decides whether Cloke has to come or not.
What kind of system is that? So Kind may not even get the opportunity to face his accuser when it was Cloke's 'evidence' that got this issue brought before the tribunal!! There is something very wrong with that.
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The angle of Ch 7's footage of the incident on their news tonight was interesting. You see Cloke with his hand around King's throat/jaw. Hardly an innocent victim :whistle.
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I, for one, am glad that this issue has come up.
I had actually forgotten how much I hated Collingwood, I had even made a couple of complimentary remarks over their young fellas such as Beams, Anthony and Sidebottom.
But they can forget it now, I feel like re reading the Jack Dyer story, just so I can read the excerpt that describes how much enjoyment Captain Blood got out of belting Jock McHale's son right in front of him at Vic Park.
Dogs.
ditto.
as much as i dont rate King as a player i am one of those people who last year praised the Pies team at times throughout the year well no more.
Those suckers can go get stuffed. Mcguane you proved what a man you are for walking away last year and Cloke well i expected nothing less from the most overated hack in the league.
Bunch of wankers these Pies are who could forget Maxwell's remarks last year. eff they make me sick
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A source last night said of Cloke: "He sang like a bird."
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/tweetycloke2.JPG)
Tweety and Sylvester
classic l like it
Clokes a dog
Dogs get taken out on the field
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Footballing brotherhood dead again
ROHAN CONNOLLY
March 11, 2010
AND in breaking news, AFL football's code of silence is dead, killed apparently by Collingwood's Travis Cloke, who had the gall to actually tell an umpire he'd been struck by an opponent.
Wow. Stand by for more revelations, like there's no longer a final four, no six games on a Saturday, and football still played at Arden Street, the Lake Oval and Windy Hill.
Seriously. Code of silence? That went out sometime around the early '80s, along with the keg after Sunday morning training, and the 100 hundreds as a standard form of pre-season training.
Sure enough, though, as soon as Richmond's Jake King this week was handed a two-game suspension based on the evidence of Cloke, the oldest of football chestnuts emerged again.
You know the thinking. Cloke's a big girl's blouse for telling the umpire in charge of the match that he'd been hit by King, then daring to stick by his story once it was followed up by the AFL investigator the next day. Man's game. Etc., etc. Well it is a man's game.
Tougher and harder-hitting than ever. But free, mercifully, from snide behind-the-play cheap shots which used to be somehow confused with courage. And, just as mercifully, from the view that a player had to remain tight-lipped no matter what had happened to him.
And it's been that way for a long while. Ask former Hawthorn premiership defender David Polkinghorne, who stuck to his guns and told the tribunal that he'd been struck by Carlton's Wayne Johnston in a qualifying final, leading to Johnston being suspended for two matches and nearly missing the Blues' eventual grand final win.
''When a player hits someone the player should at least get his just desserts,'' was Polkinghorne's explanation. That was in 1982, close enough to three decades ago.
Ask a long roll call of players who have refused to honour an anachronistic ''code'' since. Like former Richmond skipper Wayne Campbell, incensed enough by Western Bulldog Tony Liberatore's felling of teammate Matthew Knights in 2001 to give damning evidence against Liberatore.
Or Brisbane's Simon Black, whose complaint about being scratched in a game against the Bulldogs in 2000 led to a two-game suspension for Jose Romero.
Alternately, you could ask Hawthorn's Campbell Brown about how he felt after upholding the supposedly sacred code when he fibbed to get Chris Judd off an eye-gouging charge in 2007. Lighter in the pocket, certainly, after being fined $7500.
He was hardly the first to be pinged for refusing to ''dob'', either. North defender Ross Smith was handed a $1000 fine for ''unsatisfactory evidence'' in 1995.
The accusation that Cloke lagged on King not just once, but twice, is particularly rich. Once he had told the umpire in charge he'd been struck by King, and there was unsatisfactory video evidence, Cloke was always going to have to speak to an investigator. What was he supposed to tell him: ''Sorry, just kidding''?
Richmond was rightly running a hundred miles from any finger-pointing exercise yesterday. The Tigers can't afford to be seen having a whinge about Cloke when, at the same time, there was an allegation out of the same game that Dylan Grimes had been bitten on the back by an opponent.
That supposed code can be a little tricky when you have a case on either side of the equation.
The current AFL player rules allow either the league's football operations manager or the tribunal head to sanction a player who has displayed a ''failure to fully co-operate'' with the investigative process.
As it should. What use are any of the efforts expended on cleaning up the game over the years if those with the greatest power to effect that change are openly subverting the course of football justice?
That will run its course next Tuesday when King contests the charge.
He might get off, too. In which case you can expect Cloke to cop the rounds of the kitchen again from that shrinking minority who'd rather watch football as it was 30 or 40 years ago.
Personally, I prefer a game that's a celebration of skill as well as genuine toughness, and where a player doesn't have to pedal the ridiculous notion that copping an illegal whack and then pretending it didn't happen is somehow a sign of football's brotherhood.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/footballing-brotherhood-dead-again-20100310-pzcp.html?rand=1268228671073
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Footballing brotherhood dead again
ROHAN CONNOLLY
March 11, 2010
Personally, I prefer a game that's a celebration of skill as well as genuine toughness, and where a player doesn't have to pedal the ridiculous notion that copping an illegal whack and then pretending it didn't happen is somehow a sign of football's brotherhood.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/footballing-brotherhood-dead-again-20100310-pzcp.html?rand=1268228671073
Yes Rohan, I wish Luke McGuane had felt the same way last year when Cloke bit him.
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This bloke is deluding himself if he thinks there are no cheap shots in the game. There are more cheap shots than ever before, just not big hits, or acts of outright thuggery. Every game you see players from all sides taking snide, cheap shots at opposition players, safe in the knowledge that they wont get any real retaliation, acts that 30 years ago would have earned a well deserved smack in the chops in return.
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The AFL players association has ruled that the CODE OF SILENCE be renamed.
It will now be called the CLOKE OF SILENCE.
This way you can squeal like a pig at anytime you like. :lol
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The accusation that Cloke lagged on King not just once, but twice, is particularly rich. Once he had told the umpire in charge he'd been struck by King, and there was unsatisfactory video evidence, Cloke was always going to have to speak to an investigator. What was he supposed to tell him: ''Sorry, just kidding''?
Pretty much what McGuane did last year when Cloke allegedly bit him and Lukey was quizzed by the ump. Lukey just shrugged his shoulders.
That supposed code can be a little tricky when you have a case on either side of the equation.
That's how the code of silence existed. The victim one time would be the aggressor the next and both parties needed the other to get off at the tribunal.
Personally, I prefer a game that's a celebration of skill as well as genuine toughness
Rohan also preferred a certain FF with the nickname 'velvet sledgehammer' always diving and feigning for soft frees :wallywink
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Thought Gale's take on the code of silence was interesting. If you're asked you should answer truthfully and I have no issue with that.
Cloke on the other hand has squealed and that's where the criticism is stemming from.
Bottom line though is if Jake is striking a player off the ball it's pretty hard to defend him & honestly I can't really see Cloke making it up and sticking to it so stoically.
So if indeed King did hit Cloke behind play it's pretty ordinary. There's no place for that type of sniping in the modern game and it shouldn't be confused with 'toughness', 'flying the flag', 'heart' or any of that other rubbish.
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Thought Gale's take on the code of silence was interesting. If you're asked you should answer truthfully and I have no issue with that.
Cloke on the other hand has squealed and that's where the criticism is stemming from.
Bottom line though is if Jake is striking a player off the ball it's pretty hard to defend him & honestly I can't really see Cloke making it up and sticking to it so stoically.
So if indeed King did hit Cloke behind play it's pretty ordinary. There's no place for that type of sniping in the modern game and it shouldn't be confused with 'toughness', 'flying the flag', 'heart' or any of that other rubbish.
there is nothing wrong with king hitting a cloke, one should be rewarded for doing so
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there is nothing wrong with king hitting a cloke, one should be rewarded for doing so
Will be with a three week holiday.
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who cares , when we play th epies again , cloke will be pooting himself
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who cares , when we play th epies again , cloke will be pooting himself
Got a feeling Jake king might be playing his last game of AFL in rnd 17 and will do an Alistair Lynch
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Thought Gale's take on the code of silence was interesting. If you're asked you should answer truthfully and I have no issue with that.
Cloke on the other hand has squealed and that's where the criticism is stemming from.
Bottom line though is if Jake is striking a player off the ball it's pretty hard to defend him & honestly I can't really see Cloke making it up and sticking to it so stoically.
So if indeed King did hit Cloke behind play it's pretty ordinary. There's no place for that type of sniping in the modern game and it shouldn't be confused with 'toughness', 'flying the flag', 'heart' or any of that other rubbish.
Well said.
He was also very guarded in his response to whether they would contest the charge.
Was king dragged just after the incident ?
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King should be rewarded for belting that faggett Choke, err.. Cloke.
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I couldn't find it on the web yet but in the Herald-Sun today Cloke says he's no dobber...
COLLINGWOOD forward Travis Cloke has protested his innocence, declaring ``I'm no dobber'' after he was accused of lagging on Richmond's Jake King. Cloke remains adamant he didn't ``dob'' on King to any umpire or the AFL's investigator after their practice match....
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I couldn't find it on the web yet but in the Herald-Sun today Cloke says he's no dobber...
COLLINGWOOD forward Travis Cloke has protested his innocence, declaring ``I'm no dobber'' after he was accused of lagging on Richmond's Jake King. Cloke remains adamant he didn't ``dob'' on King to any umpire or the AFL's investigator after their practice match....
On what basis then has King been reported? A sound?
Pffft.
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I couldn't find it on the web yet but in the Herald-Sun today Cloke says he's no dobber...
COLLINGWOOD forward Travis Cloke has protested his innocence, declaring ``I'm no dobber'' after he was accused of lagging on Richmond's Jake King. Cloke remains adamant he didn't ``dob'' on King to any umpire or the AFL's investigator after their practice match....
On what basis then has King been reported? A sound?
Pffft.
They were talking about this on the radio last night. The report wouldn't have been made if Cloke hadn't mentioned anything to the umpire who then is required to have the AFL investigator look into it and talk to Cloke. Ridiculous of Cloke now to make out he didn't say anything ???.
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Tiger King to risk three matches at tribunal
By Luke Holmesby
Tue 16 March, 2010
RICHMOND defender Jake King will face the tribunal on Tuesday night to fight the charge laid against him from last week’s NAB Challenge game against Collingwood.
King was charged with striking Magpie Travis Cloke and was offered a two-match ban. By choosing to fight the charge instead of entering an early guilty plea, he is risking a three-week suspension.
No umpire reported King for the incident during the match and no clear video evidence for the charge was shown.
The charge was delayed until this week as any potential sanction would not affect King’s availability for last week’s NAB Challenge match against Essendon.
Cloke’s account of the incident is likely to have played a part in King being charged, with the Magpie forward among those quizzed in a match review panel investigation into the incident in recent days.
King’s only chance of being available for the Tigers’ round-one clash against Carlton on March 25 lies in successfully defending himself against the charge.
King’s charge:
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 20 per cent to 250 points. He also has 39.06 points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 309.06 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 231.80 points and a two-match sanction.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/90614/default.aspx
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King’s charge:
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 20 per cent to 250 points. He also has 39.06 points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 309.06 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 231.80 points and a two-match sanction.
Can someone please explain to me how 250 + 39.06 = 309.06
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King’s charge:
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 20 per cent to 250 points. He also has 39.06 points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 309.06 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 231.80 points and a two-match sanction.
Can someone please explain to me how 250 + 39.06 = 309.06
The issue is the 250 is wrong.
(225*1.2) = 270.
Therefore . . .
270+39.06 = 309.06
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Ah of course, I should never have assumed I could trust the maths of a journalist.
However, given it appears that spelling and grammar isn't even a prerequisite for a journo these days, wanting math skills as well is probably pushing my luck.
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i thought king couldn't play round 1 anyway becuase i thought he and hislop both got 2 match bans from the collingwood game last year?
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I think that was round 20
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Kingy's hearing happening now according to SEN.
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Ch 10 said Cloke has been called to the hearing. So Kingy and Cloke will be face to face again.
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3aw says Kingy is trying to get the suspension downgraded to one week claiming contact wasn't intentional. He was just trying to get two Magpies who were on top of him off him. Cloke has apparently said he felt contact to the side of the face.
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Ch 7 saying penalty reduced to one week
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Edit: Beat me too it WP :thumbsup
Kingy's suspension has been reduced to one week. Classed as reckless rather than intentional.
Ch 7 said Cloke apparently backed Kingy's version saying it wasn't intentional.
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thats good , he'll be straight into the side, for mine is more capable than Hislop or thompson
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thats good , he'll be straight into the side, for mine is more capable than Hislop or thompson
geez i hope not anyway who will he replace.
small backs newman tambling farmer are miles in front of him. small forwards nason nahas roberts even unfit, morton and a rotating mid. cant play mid field cant play back because of skill issues.
what ever happened to only playing good kicks where possible. if hardwick wants credability i hope he can stick to his mantra.
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thats good , he'll be straight into the side, for mine is more capable than Hislop or thompson
geez i hope not anyway who will he replace.
small backs newman tambling farmer are miles in front of him. small forwards nason nahas roberts even unfit, morton and a rotating mid. cant play mid field cant play back because of skill issues.
what ever happened to only playing good kicks where possible. if hardwick wants credability i hope he can stick to his mantra.
His "Mantra" was to recuit good kicks not play good kicks. until he has had 2-3 years to turn over the list there is no way he could stick to that.
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Downgrade means King will miss just one week
richmondfc.com.au
By Matt Burgan and Luke Holmesby
6:57 PM Tue 16 March, 2010
RICHMOND'S Jake King will now miss just the season opener against Carlton on March 25 after his striking charge against Collingwood's Travis Cloke was downgraded from intentional to reckless.
King's charge original drew him 270 points however that was slashed to 141.8 points following the tribunal hearing, which deemed he struck Cloke high but with low impact.
King will now miss just one match instead of the three he could have served if Tuesday night's challenge proved unsuccessful.
The 25-year-old was charged with striking Cloke during Richmond's 28-point NAB Challenge loss at Visy Park on March 5. King was not reported on the day and only limited video evidence was available for the charge.
Despite having his suspension cut, King was frustrated at missing one match, after the tribunal, headed by chairman David Jones and jury Emmett Dunne, David Pittman and Wayne Schimmelbusch, made its decision.
"I'd rather miss none, though," he said following the hearing.
Considering the potential outcome, Richmond football operations manager Ross Monaghan said the club was pleased with the result.
"It's always disappointing to come to the tribunal, but given the circumstances that surround matter, we're pleased with the outcome," Monaghan said.
"The outcome was what we asked the tribunal to consider and they found in our favour.
"It's disappointing for Jake to miss round one, certainly, but we think it was a really thorough process by the AFL and it's been really professionally handled and we certainly couldn't be critical of anything that's happened tonight."
During the hearing, King stressed he did not intentionally hurt Cloke.
"I did not throw a punch at Travis Cloke … my intentions were to get their hands off my face and up on my feet [off the ground]," he said.
Cloke also attended the hearing and although he acknowledged he "copped a bit of a clip to the eye", he didn't believe King's actions were intentional.
"I don't think anyone intends to hit anyone … [my] face with in the wrong place at the wrong time," the Magpie said
But emergency field umpire Damian Anderson, who made a brief appearance at the hearing before being excused, was adamant in his response.
"Cloke said: 'Did you see that?' King hit me," Anderson said.
The tribunal said it did not take into account King's previous reports, which included being suspended for the last two matches of 2009 for striking Collingwood's Alan Didak.
King has played 41 matches since debuting in 2007. He was originally drafted at No.24 in the 2007 NAB AFL Rookie Draft (held in December 2006).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/90614/default.aspx
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Great we can bring him back for the game against the Bulldogs. :help
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"Cloke said: 'Did you see that?' King hit me," Anderson said.
If Cloke said that, i'm surprised there wasn't a 100m queue of people wanting to king hit him :lol
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thats good , he'll be straight into the side, for mine is more capable than Hislop or thompson
geez i hope not anyway who will he replace.
small backs newman tambling farmer are miles in front of him. small forwards nason nahas roberts even unfit, morton and a rotating mid. cant play mid field cant play back because of skill issues.
what ever happened to only playing good kicks where possible. if hardwick wants credability i hope he can stick to his mantra.
His "Mantra" was to recuit good kicks not play good kicks. until he has had 2-3 years to turn over the list there is no way he could stick to that.
oh i see. so he is to play shizenhousen kicks while attempting to improve the way we play ::)
sheesh common sense says while recruiting decent kicks is important the same sort of thing can be applied to current players.
if kicking is so important why would you play king in front of anybody. as i said down back hes behind farmer tambling connors dea newman probably webberley sheesh even mcmuffin kicks better.
forward a blind man would play roberts morton nason even nahas whose skills leave a bit to be desired. bloody hell we have to fit one of the mids as well cotchin or collins are easily better long term options than king. geez if we are talking skills taylor would get a game in front of him.
lets get it into our heads king never was and never will be an afl standard player and its not as if we dont have adequate alternative options to him. i hope the only reason he managed to stay put was the fact he was contracted. end of contract end of another useless piece of. well better to not say it. god help us all hes just a smaller version and if possible a worse skilled player than probably the worst rfc footballer of recent times fleming.
why do we keep on defending nuffas and poor decisions by the club. on the latter sure they are new to the caper but because they are new they sure as hell will get it wrong.
we / hardwick have a mantra its a damn good one if you ask me. lets stick to it and stop finding excuses to change tack when it suits. jake king does not meet any mantra especially skills.
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jake king does not meet any mantra especially skills.
I believe Jake King would not get a game with any other team in the competition.
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he would at melbourne and freo lol
seriously, jake can be a handyplayer but must play up fwd or fwd of centre, he gets exposed in defence but can play both a defensive and attacking role in our fwd line, at least he can kick goals unlike hislop!!!!!
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he would at melbourne and freo lol
seriously, jake can be a handyplayer but must play up fwd or fwd of centre, he gets exposed in defence but can play both a defensive and attacking role in our fwd line, at least he can kick goals unlike hislop!!!!!
Kick goals?
King's record last year was 5 goals, 4 behinds, while Hislop's was 9 goals, 5 behinds. So who should be learning from who?
Bottom line is none because neither of them have the skills at this stage to be in a final 8 team, let alone our next premiership but at least Hislop has natural ability to read the play, take a mark and is 4 years younger than King. I can't say I can see any kind of strength in Jake King besides being a tenacious tryer, which Hislop is as well anyway.
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he would at melbourne and freo lol
seriously, jake can be a handyplayer but must play up fwd or fwd of centre, he gets exposed in defence but can play both a defensive and attacking role in our fwd line, at least he can kick goals unlike hislop!!!!!
Kick goals?
King's record last year was 5 goals, 4 behinds, while Hislop's was 9 goals, 5 behinds. So who should be learning from who?
Bottom line is none because neither of them have the skills at this stage to be in a final 8 team, let alone our next premiership but at least Hislop has natural ability to read the play, take a mark and is 4 years younger than King. I can't say I can see any kind of strength in Jake King besides being a tenacious tryer, which Hislop is as well anyway.
u r a moron
hislop played the whole yr up fwd, what a great return lol idiot
king played the whole yr down back bar the last couple of rounds. where he played more mid, remember the game v the bombers, bog, 3 goals
king is better than hislop by a mile
do ur homework
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he would at melbourne and freo lol
At a pinch Melbourne not at Freo IMO anyway.
I think you overrate Jake's abilities X but it'll be interesting to see how he goes under Hardwick's tutelage.
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Unless king learns to cotrol his agression, by continually putting his head over ball with purpose and shepherding/blocking, rather than running around taking cheap snipes he brings nothing of value to the team.
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he would at melbourne and freo lol
seriously, jake can be a handyplayer but must play up fwd or fwd of centre, he gets exposed in defence but can play both a defensive and attacking role in our fwd line, at least he can kick goals unlike hislop!!!!!
Kick goals?
King's record last year was 5 goals, 4 behinds, while Hislop's was 9 goals, 5 behinds. So who should be learning from who?
Bottom line is none because neither of them have the skills at this stage to be in a final 8 team, let alone our next premiership but at least Hislop has natural ability to read the play, take a mark and is 4 years younger than King. I can't say I can see any kind of strength in Jake King besides being a tenacious tryer, which Hislop is as well anyway.
u r a moron
hislop played the whole yr up fwd, what a great return lol idiot
king played the whole yr down back bar the last couple of rounds. where he played more mid, remember the game v the bombers, bog, 3 goals
king is better than hislop by a mile
do ur homework
Lol, there is the X I know, has no idea so he starts abusing people instead to make himself feel better.
For a start King didn't play down back "all year", in fact he would have been lucky to play 3 games down back. He barely played one third of the season.
Secondly Hislop does not play deep forward and was not expected to be a goal scoring machine.
Thirdly against Essendon Jake King kicked 1 goal in a performance miles away from B.O.G. Perhaps you are getting Jake and Jack mixed up as Jack kicked 6.
Fourthly Jake King kicked 3 goals against Sydney where we were embarrassed in a flogging and was still not B.O.G. And if King kicking 3 means he's good at kicking goals forward why the hell did we not keep such one time goal scorers like Cleve Hughes and Jay Schulz. :rollin
Lastly, if you are suggesting that King should be teaching anyone how to kick perhaps you should look at the first line of your post again and neither King could learn more off Hislop than Hislop could off King, and that's a scary statement to make considering the limitations in Hislop's game.
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Should be a tagger and thats all