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Title: Breaking news
Post by: mellowyellow on November 18, 2004, 06:42:39 PM
According to both 3aw and SEN rex is ineligable to be nominated for the richmond board because he is not a paid up member.

You'd think both rex and casey would have checked for any discrepencies (sp?) that might have impeded him from contesting, would have been checked.But something so basic as not being signed up will make the club and its members a laughing stock.

Top effort guys  >:(
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 18, 2004, 06:50:36 PM
According to both 3aw and SEN rex is ineligable to be nominated for the richmond board because he is not a paid up member.

You'd think both rex and casey would have checked for any discrepencies (sp?) that might have impeded him from contesting, would have been checked.But something so basic as not being signed up will make the club and its members a laughing stock.

Top effort guys  >:(

stuff, if this is true then  :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop

 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2004, 07:10:40 PM
If this is true and he's not a member then this is a total and stupid stuff up. Should be easy to confirm something as obvious as this whether Rex is a member or not :gobdrop. 
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mellowyellow on November 18, 2004, 07:34:26 PM

http://www.sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=59060

Stuff up of the highest degree.

Plenty of egg on faces alround by the casey ticket come tomorrow.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 18, 2004, 08:23:04 PM
I posted earlier on another thread that Hunt could be the torpedo that sinks the schwab ship. Maybe I should have said Hunt could be the torpedo that explodes before it leaves the tube :thumbsup
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2004, 08:26:05 PM
SEN are waiting for Casey (in a meeting) and Rex (signing books) to speak to them.

Rex said in a grab that his assistant forgot! Said he'll accept the constitution and will watch from a distance.

Schwab called Casey incompetent.

They just said Casey will be on in 10-15 minutes.

Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2004, 09:30:27 PM
Casey won't be on until tomorrow morning on Morning Glory. He's checking with lawyers as we speak. The only loophole that may exist (and I emphasize "may") is if Rex is a life member (don't know if he is) and whether that then classes you as a "financial" member. Rex is a coterie member (pays $1000s to the club) but not a financial member ($140) so that makes him ineligible not only to run for the board but to vote as well.

Of course he can run or be appointed next year if he takes out a membership.

Wallace apparently made the first move to ask Rex and Casey jumped on board when Rex showed interest.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2004, 11:20:28 PM
The Herald-Sun back page will be about the Rex-Casey stuff-up.

Casey is trying to still get Rex involved at the Club.

Schwab and Macek said they'll challenge any legal moves by Casey to get Rex on the Board  ::).

Rex thought he was a member because the letters he receives from the coterie group begin with "Dear Member".
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Bulluss on November 18, 2004, 11:37:57 PM
From what i heard on the radio, the board has the ability to have up to 12 members.

If 9 people get appointed via the upcoming election, then once next year comes along they can add Rex to the board as they have just done with that new financial dude.

Thats what i heard, does this comply with the constitution?
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 18, 2004, 11:40:53 PM
Schwab and Macek should be very carefull here because if they are seen as activly suppressing Rex from trying to get on the board (even if they are right)  then It could back fire on them big time. Rex is very well liked by the supporters.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2004, 11:54:55 PM
This is what the constitution says Bully:

8.1.1 ...  the management of the Club shall be vested in the Board which shall consist of nine members of the Board (including the President, Vice President and the Treasurer) ....

It says nine but there could be a corporate law clause ? that may allow it. I don't know.

Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 12:01:59 AM
Schwab and Macek should be very carefull here because if they are seen as activly suppressing Rex from trying to get on the board (even if they are right)  then It could back fire on them big time. Rex is very well liked by the supporters.

Rex accused Schwab's side of running to Caro to dob him in. Said he accepted what the constitution says but basically called the alternative gutless for not contacting him to tell him he wasn't a member.
Title: Membership oversight puts Rex out of Hunt
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 02:05:35 AM
Membership oversight puts Rex out of Hunt
By Caroline Wilson, Jake Niall
realfooty.theage.com.au
November 19, 2004

Media commentator Rex Hunt last night was forced into a humiliating retreat from his plan to stand for the Richmond board when it was discovered he was not a paid-up member of the club.

But club president Clinton Casey and his supporters last night were still exploring avenues that would enable Hunt to join the board as vice-president, even after next month's election.

Hunt, having learned that he was ineligible, said yesterday he would not stand for the election but board sources last night suggested that he remained willing to consider joining the board after the poll - assuming the Casey forces emerged victorious.

Hunt, a former Richmond premiership player, was preparing to stand on the Casey ticket - which is contesting an election against a group headed by Charles Macek and Brendan Schwab - when it was discovered that despite his generous involvement in the club (he paid $8500 for a photo of the 1969 premiership team and hosts club functions for free), he was ineligible as he was not a paid-up member. Hunt, according to Schwab, has not been a financial member in any year since computer records were first kept in 1995.

According to the club's articles of association, only members can stand for election to the board and the cut-off date for joining was August 31, seemingly ruling Hunt out of a place on Casey's ticket for the coming election. Hunt had believed he was a member until quizzed about it by The Age late yesterday.

He said that as a member of the past players' and Tom Hafey Club supporter groups, he thought he was a financial member. Football director Greg Miller, who was involved in recruiting Hunt to the Casey team, had thought that, as a former premiership player, he was a life member.

Hunt phoned The Age back several minutes later to indicate he was not, in fact, a member. Later, he expressed his disappointed on 3AW. "I thought I could make a difference by inspiring people who had drifted away from the club to come back with their kids and give them the ride of their lives.

"I'm probably glad what's happened has happened because I just think I was just going to give myself far too much grief. I think that sometimes my love of things gets me into trouble. If the constitution says that I can't stand, I won't stand, I'll walk away. I'll still love the club but I'll take a back seat."

While Hunt had publicly withdrawn from the election, board sources last night indicated he could still be "manoeuvred" on to the board, by running him as a "silent member" of the ticket. This could be done by nominating a "sacrificial lamb" who would stand on Casey's ticket, with voters made aware he would be replaced by Hunt post-election. Casey was also investigating legal options.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/11/18/1100748140761.html?oneclick=true
Title: Casey caught by Rex Hunt line
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 02:07:10 AM
Casey caught by Rex Hunt line
19 November 2004   
Herald Sun
Damian Barrett

RICHMOND president Clinton Casey vowed last night to "move heaven and earth" to secure Rex Hunt as his deputy, despite the media identity being ineligible to run for the board.

Hunt's failure to officially enrol as a club member disqualifies him under the Tigers' constitution from running on Casey's ticket at next month's election.

But Casey said he would seek ways to ensure Hunt became involved with the club.

"Rex has shown a commitment to Richmond – I want him, I know the Richmond members want him and we will move heaven and earth to get him, whatever it takes," Casey told the Herald Sun.

"I will sit down with my board to sort this out."

Having yesterday claimed he was an "80 per cent starter", Hunt last night told the Herald Sun, "I'm goin' fishin' mate, and that's a shame".

The oversight in Hunt's membership clouds Casey's battle against a Charles Macek-led ticket that will be decided at the December 22 annual general meeting.

The Richmond constitution stipulates prospective directors must have enrolled as members by August 31.

Hunt told the Herald Sun last night he had assumed he was a member of the club because of involvement with several entities related to it.

"I am not taking any responsibility because all I was doing was helping out the Richmond Football Club with my strengths," Hunt said.

"My strengths are my heart on my sleeve and my unquestionable loyalty to Richmond.

"It never even passed my mind I wouldn't be a member because I am a member of the past players' association, I am a member of the Tommy Hafey club, I have given a substantial amount to the Tommy Hafey club over the past six months to make sure junior development comes on.

"I get a weekly e-mail addressed to Rex Hunt that says `Dear member'. I just assumed I was a member."

Hunt recently purchased an auction item at a Hafey club function for more than $8000.

The Macek group claimed Hunt had not been listed as a member since computer records were first kept in 1995.

"If this is what it is all about, and if this grief is going to be directed to me, I'm going fishin', mate, and that is a shame," Hunt said.

"Eddie (McGuire) rang me and Eddie said, `Isn't it a shame that someone with so much energy and enthusiasm and most importantly so much pull within the corporate industry that Richmond so desperately needs has been forced out . . .'.

"I was prepared to endure the pain, I was prepared to be patient, I was prepared to talk to kids and talk to members and talk to prospective sponsors.

"But, just leave me out of this. I want to fight a black and white or a blue and white jumper in a Grand Final.

"I don't want to fight a bloke wearing the same colours as me in the board room."

Macek ticket member Brendan Schwab said the Hunt oversight was damning for Casey. "We feel this highlights the incompetence of Clinton Casey when it comes to corporate governance, financial management and the attention to detail that is required to run a complex business such as an AFL club," Schwab said.

"We are disappointed that Rex Hunt has been compromised by this because we consider him a great Richmond person and we certainly want to work with him if we are elected.

"Clinton has a blase attitude when it comes to corporate governance and, as a result, the club has lost millions of dollars. It highlights how desperate he has become to hold on to power."

Schwab said his group would fight any moves by the Casey ticket to seek legal means to have Hunt installed on its ticket.

Ernst and Young accountant Rob Dalton was appointed yesterday to fill a casual vacancy on the Tigers' board.

The revelations in yesterday's that Hunt had been sought by Casey to join the board had not been put to several directors.

Had Hunt been eligible and accepted the Casey offer, one of the current directors would have had to have been cut, as the club's constitution allows just nine directors to sit at any one time; Hunt would have been the 10th. It is understood Casey would have offloaded Rob Turner or John Matthies.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,11432423%255E19771,00.html
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: JohnF on November 19, 2004, 02:26:46 AM
LOl, what a phuc up  :banghead
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Puntroadroar on November 19, 2004, 02:37:34 AM
Schwab and Macek should be very carefull here because if they are seen as activly suppressing Rex from trying to get on the board (even if they are right)  then It could back fire on them big time. Rex is very well liked by the supporters.

Rex accused Schwab's side of running to Caro to dob him in. Said he accepted what the constitution says but basically called the alternative gutless for not contacting him to tell him he wasn't a member.


Shows that neither side should be running come this election


1. we have president who doesnt even know the constitution of his own club, a disgrace, amazing how 8 grand a year isnt consider the same worth as 140 bucks, that absolutely is amazing.

2. we have an alternative ticket too gutless to tell Rex face to face just in case it is seen by Richmond members as an attempt to sink a favourite son (which we all no it was) Macek ticket are a bunch of weak snipers with no balls with no vision.

I'm very disappointed that Rex cant run, because he could have been huge value to our club but once again our infighting amongst big headed w@nkers has shot ourselves in the foot, after this mess if the alternative ticket gets in which it will happen because Casey is a moron dont expect Rex Hunt to ever put his hand up again

we are a rabble and as long as these clowns cant sort out their obvious personal vendettas against each other this will always stay the same.

Funny thing is now the alternative ticket have pi$$ed off Rex and obviously Wallace isnt in favour of the ticket either otherwise he wouldnt have asked Casey to get Rex on board.

our club is a JOKE




Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 02:57:13 AM
Sadly a fair summary there PRR  :'(. Sheesh, we here on OER could do a better job!

amazing how 8 grand a year isnt consider the same worth as 140 bucks, that absolutely is amazing.

The AFL a few years ago cracked down on Clubs falsely boosting their memberships numbers by including coterie memberships in total membership numbers when these coterie members were also and already Club members. Now coterie memberships don't count. Rex obviously didn't know this.

It is amazing that a dual premiership 100+ game player, coterie member, Tom Hafey club member, etc and passionate Tiger supporter isn't allowed to vote or run for the board. But I'd guess rules are rules and they should've been well aware of it.

Both sides are quite happy to change/bypass the rules to suit their own agenda  >:(.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Harry on November 19, 2004, 10:24:31 AM
Why the stuff isn't someone that's a coterie member, someone who contributes 100's of dollars, not considered a member ?  This doesn't make sense. 

All of a sudden everyone wants to ride on the Terry express.  Where was everyone (including Rex) 2 years ago when it was obvious to all that this club was going down quicker than a cheap hooker.  Oh yeah, forgot, they were all too busy with other commitments.  But now that the Terry express is departing from Flinders street station everyone wants to get on board to enjoy the ride.  When there was a chance to prevent the preventable, everyone was hiding under the covers.  All involved have no credibility if you ask me.  From the current incompetent board to the gutless alternatives.  Can we go boardless and let Terry and Chocco run the show ?  That's what I would vote for if it was a choice.  They're all a bunch of paper shufflers who have no idea about football and want to be a part of the club only when it suits them, only when the infrustructure and foundations have been set for finals glory resulting in them eventually patting each other on the back claiming credit for it all.

I don't know, I might sound a bit synical but I just find it amazing how so many people have come out of the woodworks all of a sudden and want to join the board after the crucial changes have been made, whereas a few years ago, when we really needed change no-one was putting their hand up.  Could it be that all want to bask in the glory ?
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Harry on November 19, 2004, 11:28:04 AM
And another thing (I'm getting sick of this) is that the gutless alternatives go running to the media with the fact that Rex isn't a member despite the fact that they also had approached him in a bid to lure him to join them.  Wonder if they bothered to check whether he was a member before approaching him.  Had he agreed then they would have looked foolish just like Caseys mob do now.

It's becoming so childish, reminds me of high school.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Tiger Spirit on November 19, 2004, 11:39:46 AM
All good points Harry.  In fairness to Rex though, he has only recently cleared some commitments that now make it possible for him to take on more of a role at the Club.

As incompetent as the current Board may be or seem, the alternative is and never will be a viable alternative.  And it may turn out that we have to decide between the two.

Love or hate Casey, he is the one person that has got up off his backside and done something to get RFC going again.  To do that, he and whoever else is involved, had to acknowledge what and where the problems are and then set out to do something about them.  The appointment of Miller alone has resulted in some much needed changes, as he is someone who realises that a long-term approach to changing things is necessary and is prepared to do whatever it takes to change them.

Anyone who knows and understands the Richmond history will know that previous administrations weren’t even prepared to accept that we had problems.  They were content to sit back and say things are “fine”.  “There’s nothing wrong here” type attitude.  Or maybe they just didn’t know how to go about changing them or weren’t prepared to.

At least Casey has had enough ticker to shake things up and get some action into the place.  The only other person to do that was Mal Brown in about 1994.  God forbid though, that someone should attempt to change anything and perhaps make a mistake in the process.  We all know what happens to anyone who does that at this Club.

Maybe Casey isn’t the ideal President, but if it’s a decision between Casey and Macek then I’ll take my chances with those who are prepared to see there are problems and can and will do something about them.  Unlike those before him.

From their attitude, the things they say and everything else about them, the alternatives, can only clearly send us backwards at a rate of knots.

The fact they are buoyed by an oversight and believe that it gives them credibility (which they never had before), says it all.  They must have sore hands from all the high fives they’ve been giving each other since yesterday.  Truth is, if they are prepared to see it, which I doubt, is that they have about as much credibility as they had on Wednesday.  NONE.

They speak about democracy when they wanted to take over the place.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead They speak about the times pre Casey when we were financial and competitive as a team.

Maybe they’ve just woken up from a 20 year slumber or something.  Or maybe they’re still asleep, which would explain some things.  When they finally wake up, they might like to count the numbers of times we made the finals during their time at the Club versus the drubbings we copped.  They’ll need to take the socks and shoes off for that one (counting the drubbings that is).

As embarrassing as this might be, it’s hardly end of the world stuff and it seems that the news got out before things had been finalised and fully decided.  When the dust settles and we all regain our composure, we’ll see that, if Rex is still prepared to be involved with the Club, he could still take on a role and become a Director down the track.  Even before an election is held next year.  Just as other Directors have, without election.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Puntroadroar on November 19, 2004, 12:20:58 PM
And another thing (I'm getting sick of this) is that the gutless alternatives go running to the media with the fact that Rex isn't a member despite the fact that they also had approached him in a bid to lure him to join them.  Wonder if they bothered to check whether he was a member before approaching him.  Had he agreed then they would have looked foolish just like Caseys mob do now.

It's becoming so childish, reminds me of high school.

I totally agree 100% with your comments Harry, I too am sick to death of these clowns using Richmond for the basis of their personal vendettas against each other.

None of them are in it for the supporters they are all in it for themselves.

If I could vote a 3rd option of Wallace and Chocco I would.

None of the candidates are worthy of being on the Richmond board !!!  >:(

I'm so angry
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 03:59:57 PM
Why the stuff isn't someone that's a coterie member, someone who contributes 100's of dollars, not considered a member ?  This doesn't make sense.

See my previous post Harry. Apparently the rules were changed by the AFL to stop Clubs inflating their membership numbers. They should have made it that any individual who has at least one or more forms of Club, coterie group membership, etc... count as one member in the records and hence has voting rights. Instead they said you needed to buy a Club membership even if you fork out $$$ to the Club in other ways. 

Problem is prior to this season we as a Club were still kidding ourselves that we weren't far away. There were always excuses for why we kept failing. No one had a clue how to solve our ills because as TS rightly mentioned no one admitted their was a real problem and that problem was we were crap at virtually every level of the Club especially the all important on-field side. It was only this year when we ran out of excuses on the back of a wooden spoon and a $2 million loss that the alarm bells (or should that be clock) finally and thankfully went off and we awoke from 20+ years of delusion. If 2004 wasn't such a disaster most of the those around the Club would still be fooling themselves. They had to see the rotting carcas for themselves to believe we were scheissenhausen  ;).

My reasoning for these people only putting their hands up now is because the unpopular decisions have already been made. Like when most things are sick you need to take a step backwards to rebuild the foundations before moving forward. We needed someone to come in and say "I'm not here to be popular" and take and ignore the flack that came their way from interferring morons who have plagued our Club. The main unpopular decision was forcing stability on the Club even if it meant in the short term we looked stupid (eg: Spud seeing out his contract to the bitter end). Now when such a hardline stance pays off with Wallace coming to Tigerland and the Club building some momentum ( thanks mainly to Miller), these people now want to join the party. With all the important decision making being done below board level it wouldn't be that hard being on the RFC board in 2005 and beyond. Just get use to saying "Yes Mr Miller, Yes Mr Wallace, Yes Mr Wright. Whatever you say. You are the experts".

Stability is the Key to Success - Greg Miller  :thumbsup

As for the Rex stuff up. I agree that it's not the end of the world. Might dint some of the momentum we had because people's expectations were risen to unbelievable levels on hearing Rex wanting to become a board member but the reality is we are back to where we were 2 days ago when we were still all happy about the Tiges future prospects. It's embarrassing but the Club needs to continue to remain focussed and keep moving forward.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 04:09:35 PM
Just add that I heard on the radio this morning Rex saying he wouldn't want someone to play dead at the election so he could take their spot afterwards.

I agree with him. Elections aren't play things for either side to manipulate to suit themselves.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Harry on November 19, 2004, 05:05:38 PM
Why the stuff isn't someone that's a coterie member, someone who contributes 100's of dollars, not considered a member ?  This doesn't make sense.

See my previous post Harry. Apparently the rules were changed by the AFL to stop Clubs inflating their membership numbers. They should have made it that any individual who has at least one or more forms of Club, coterie group membership, etc... count as one member in the records and hence has voting rights. Instead they said you needed to buy a Club membership even if you fork out $$$ to the Club in other ways. 

Problem is prior to this season we as a Club were still kidding ourselves that we weren't far away. There were always excuses for why we kept failing. No one had a clue how to solve our ills because as TS rightly mentioned no one admitted their was a real problem and that problem was we were crap at virtually every level of the Club especially the all important on-field side. It was only this year when we ran out of excuses on the back of a wooden spoon and a $2 million loss that the alarm bells (or should that be clock) finally and thankfully went off and we awoke from 20+ years of delusion. If 2004 wasn't such a disaster most of the those around the Club would still be fooling themselves. They had to see the rotting carcas for themselves to believe we were scheissenhausen  ;).

My reasoning for these people only putting their hands up now is because the unpopular decisions have already been made. Like when most things are sick you need to take a step backwards to rebuild the foundations before moving forward. We needed someone to come in and say "I'm not here to be popular" and take and ignore the flack that came their way from interferring morons who have plagued our Club. The main unpopular decision was forcing stability on the Club even if it meant in the short term we looked stupid (eg: Spud seeing out his contract to the bitter end). Now when such a hardline stance pays off with Wallace coming to Tigerland and the Club building some momentum ( thanks mainly to Miller), these people now want to join the party. With all the important decision making being done below board level it wouldn't be that hard being on the RFC board in 2005 and beyond. Just get use to saying "Yes Mr Miller, Yes Mr Wallace, Yes Mr Wright. Whatever you say. You are the experts".

Stability is the Key to Success - Greg Miller  :thumbsup

As for the Rex stuff up. I agree that it's not the end of the world. Might dint some of the momentum we had because people's expectations were risen to unbelievable levels on hearing Rex wanting to become a board member but the reality is we are back to where we were 2 days ago when we were still all happy about the Tiges future prospects. It's embarrassing but the Club needs to continue to remain focussed and keep moving forward.

Agree 100% MT.

The main decisions have already been made and the elected board members will enjoy the ride without requiring to make the unpopular decisions.  As I've said - it's a non-event this election thing as the decision makers elected won't have much of a bearing to our immediate future direction.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Tiger Spirit on November 19, 2004, 05:07:54 PM
As for the Rex stuff up. I agree that it's not the end of the world. Might dint some of the momentum we had because people's expectations were risen to unbelievable levels on hearing Rex wanting to become a board member but the reality is we are back to where we were 2 days ago when we were still all happy about the Tiges future prospects. It's embarrassing but the Club needs to continue to remain focussed and keep moving forward.

Sounds like common sense MT.  This doesn’t need to dint any momentum at all.  It may have been enough to do so in the past, but with the approach taken by the Club, in recent times, and with the people there now, who are prepared to act, rather than sit on their hands and do nothing, it’s nothing more than a speed hump in the road.  Nothing that isn’t easily overcome and hardly a big deal, in the overall scheme of things.  Unless people decide it is.  

It’s just typical of this footy Club to chew up and spit out those who make a blunder.  Never mind if they are trying to implement change and doing the hard yards that no one before them was prepared to do.  Instead of seeing what is going on, people are consumed by an amount of embarrassment that will be forgotten tomorrow.

Let’s get beyond what happened and see the efforts being made to turn things around for this footy Club.  Efforts that haven’t been made in the past and would never have even been considered.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2004, 05:52:02 PM
[The main decisions have already been made and the elected board members will enjoy the ride without requiring to make the unpopular decisions.  As I've said - it's a non-event this election thing as the decision makers elected won't have much of a bearing to our immediate future direction.

Agree harry provided no one on the 2005 board starts thinking they know better and begins meddling and stuffing things up when instead they should keep out. The board appoints our Club employees to do a particular job. It shouldn't tell them how to do it.   

Agree TS. It's quite amazing that certain people who claim to be passionate Richmond people can rejoice about a situation that finds someone who can help the Club immensely ineligible ::). They wish the Club to fail to boost their chances for power over the Club >:(.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 19, 2004, 11:00:18 PM
Rex accused Schwab's side of running to Caro to dob him in. Said he accepted what the constitution says but basically called the alternative gutless for not contacting him to tell him he wasn't a member.

The alternative ticket using Caro - well I never  :o ::) :gobdrop

Rex seems to be more cynical than me :banghead
Title: Re: Casey caught by Rex Hunt line
Post by: harry bosch on November 19, 2004, 11:09:52 PM
Casey caught by Rex Hunt line
19 November 2004   
Herald Sun
Damian Barrett

"I will sit down with my board to sort this out."


Surprised this hasn't been picked up on , especially in light of the criticsm of a certain other person who made a similar comment...


Title: Re: Membership oversight puts Rex out of Hunt
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 19, 2004, 11:27:38 PM
Hunt, according to Schwab, has not been a financial member in any year since computer records were first kept in 1995.

Can someone please explain to me how Schwab would know this? I would think that the info on the Club's database would be accessable by Club employees only.

Schwab carries on about Casey and Corporate governance well I am sorry this doesn't seem very ethical to me

Macek ticket member Brendan Schwab said the Hunt oversight was damning for Casey. "We feel this highlights the incompetence of Clinton Casey when it comes to corporate governance, financial management and the attention to detail that is required to run a complex business such as an AFL club," Schwab said.

Argh huh - twit

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"Clinton has a blase attitude when it comes to corporate governance and, as a result, the club has lost millions of dollars. It highlights how desperate he has become to hold on to power."

I think this shows how desperate the Schwab/Macek ticket has become
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: harry bosch on November 19, 2004, 11:45:35 PM


Agree harry provided no one on the 2005 board starts thinking they know better and begins meddling and stuffing things up when instead they should keep out. The board appoints our Club employees to do a particular job. It shouldn't tell them how to do it.   

Agree TS. It's quite amazing that certain people who claim to be passionate Richmond people can rejoice about a situation that finds someone who can help the Club immensely ineligible ::). They wish the Club to fail to boost their chances for power over the Club >:(.
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That goes both ways , paid employees of the club shouldn't be going around to people homes and trying to convince them to stand for the board.

btw who is rejoicing about it?????

Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 20, 2004, 02:33:49 AM
Schwab just came across to me HB as more interested in using the situtation to take another dig at Casey rather than being truly disappointed that an obvious asset to the Club like Rex could be was ineligible to run for the board. This has been the problem with the alternative all along. They have month after month been only focussed on Casey's head. It's less than two weeks until we receive the ballot papers and we still haven't seen or heard of their plans for the future.

While I agree employees should stay out of Club politics (Miller shouldn't run for the board), I don't have a problem with the Club doing its utmost to attract the best people to the Club whether they be players, coaches, recruiters, sponsors, administrators or board members. 
Title: Casey gives up on Rex
Post by: mightytiges on November 20, 2004, 02:36:56 AM
Casey gives up on Rex
20 November 2004   
Herald Sun
Damian Barrett

THE Rex to Richmond push is dead. Tigers president Clinton Casey last night conceded the bid to secure media identity Rex Hunt as a club director had struck too many obstacles.

Hunt, ineligible to stand for the board because he is not a club member, had earlier reiterated his intention to leave Casey and his directors to fight next month's election against a Charles Macek-led ticket without him.

"I respect Rex's decision, but I am disappointed with what has happened with him because he would have made an enormous contribution to this club," Casey said last night.

"It is a big loss to the club and it is very disappointing he has been put through this. He does not deserve it.

"In the event we win the election, he can expect a knock on the door from me."

Casey, football director Greg Miller and coach Terry Wallace had this week sought Hunt's inclusion as a director.

Hunt said last night he would support Wallace and the club from a distance, "as I have done all my life".

"I wish Terry and the club all the best," he said. "Whoever gets in, if they call me and I have got time, I will help them."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,11441121%255E20322,00.html
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: Fishfinger on November 20, 2004, 07:17:37 AM
Miller, Wallace take sides
By Caroline Wilson The Age
November 20, 2004

The embarrassing Rex Hunt affair has clarified at least one element of the murky scenario that simply becomes murkier at Tigerland.

If there was ever any doubt over who was running Clinton Casey's election campaign, then that doubt dissipated with the revelation that Greg Miller had been chasing Hunt for four weeks and even tracked him down in Arnhem Land some 10 days ago.

He visited Hunt with Casey and coach Terry Wallace on Monday night and officially asked the famous football commentator to run on Casey's ticket.

This is despite the fact that Wallace had reportedly requested a guarantee from Casey that he would be left out of the politics. And despite the official address from Richmond's new chief executive Steven Wright to all staff to remain independent of the boardroom battle.

If anyone ever believed Miller would remain at Richmond should Casey be defeated next month, then they also now know the opposite to be true. That much, at least, has been settled despite all the blarney that has been spoken over recent days.

Miller first made a name for himself in club circles in the early 1980s as a recruiting man, one of the best in the business. Graeme Richmond himself tried to lure him to Tigerland back then. And he has proved in his time at Richmond that he will go to exhaustive lengths to get his man.

Three days ago he was hunting down a young footballer in Darwin and last year he flew to London on an impulse to lure Dean Solomon, having engineered an agreement among his senior players to take a collective pay cut in order to secure the Bomber.

That bid failed despite Miller's best efforts. But the Rex Hunt attempt fell apart for the ridiculous reason that Hunt was not a member - something Miller had been warned about four days ago but apparently did not check. That it was never checked before the three-man visit remains unfathomable.

There is so much that is bewilderingly stupid about this farce that it is difficult to know where to start. Casey, in a series of radio interviews yesterday, chose to blame the entire episode on his opposition, a premise difficult to justify given that it could have been worse had the oversight been exposed following Hunt's planned official announcement on Sunday.

Casey also inaccurately said the move to lure Hunt had only just begun and therefore it had been too early to check his membership. The Herald Sun, he said, had exposed the campaign move prematurely. Wrong.

Hunt had already officially sought 3AW's blessing and Miller, as previously reported, had been calling him for weeks and had put the vice-presidency to Hunt on Monday.

The opposing ticket led by Charles Macek has taken the opportunity to say the entire exercise only underlines Casey's allegedly sloppy, mistake-riddled tenure.

But the Macek camp lacks focus, not least because the group lacks a clear front-person - not helped by Macek being low-profile and now overseas - and also because it seems to stand for little but ousting Casey.

While Wallace was clearly seconded by the chairman to visit Hunt - his former media colleague - there appears to be some friction between the new coach and Casey's opponents.

Further complicating what has been portrayed by some as a clear choice between two tickets is not only the voting process, which lists opposing candidates in a senate-style manner, but the fact that Casey's ticket is far from complete.

His board is divided with at least two directors - Rob Turner and John Matthies - clearly on the outer and a third, in Motorola boss Alan Niklos, considering resigning for business reasons.

Turner and Matthies have reportedly been assured by Casey that he would keep them on his ticket for the December spill but it is understood Turner would have been tapped on the shoulder to make way for Hunt and could well have refused. Neither current director was aware of the Hunt bid.

It is understood that Matthies, a lawyer elected by the Richmond members in January by defeating Tony Jewell, will refuse to stand down for the spill if Casey does not keep him on board.

Confused? Politics has always operated in its own unique and devastating style at Richmond but the days when the boys found success by kicking it long to Royce seem a lifetime away.

http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/Caroline-Wilson/Miller-Wallace-take-sides/2004/11/19/1100838226820.html
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: cub on November 20, 2004, 08:07:18 AM
If it was Miller that was chasing Hunt - He obviously and strongly wants a Casey ticket so finally there is stability at the club

In that case I will be voting for Casey's ticket - Not saying Casey is the all mighty but a much better option than Schwab's ticket.

The Schwab went on and on when I heard him on SEN when this broke just shows to me he is in it for HIMSELF and HIMSELF only.

I really really have had a gutful of all this. and to be quite honest I think the media and some people blow it out of all proportion.

Posiive 1

We will be fine  :thumbsup Caseys ticket will win and Schwab and his cronies can go and hide under a rock and sulk for the rest of their lives. because that's what they will do - they wont want to help RFC when it's all over - which will show their true colours - IMO

Positive 2

Today - 2 hours to go to the draft and I think I am starting to drool  :lol

Positive 3

Come January we WILL be stable with a good mix of old and new - and to be honest I cant wait.

 ;D

All the fuss is because it is RICHMOND and we have not been where we belong the last 20 years - That Will change  :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: mightytiges on November 22, 2004, 09:32:48 PM
Terry said he was asked by Casey and Miller? to come down and outline to Rex the future plans of the Club so he doesn't think he was playing politics or taking sides. Said he wasn't aware up to then of us putting to Rex to join the board. An ambassador role was maybe also thought of (I didn't catch this last bit properly). 
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 23, 2004, 01:24:34 PM
Doesn't it say something that Rex Hunt was prepared to join the Casey ticket?

Not the Schwab ticket but the Casey ticket?

Up until that point Rex had not taken sides but he comitted to the Casey ticket. Sure there's been a stuff up but at the end of the day the fact is Rex was prepared to work with Casey. It has to mean something.
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: 1980 on November 23, 2004, 05:14:13 PM
Doesn't it say something that Rex Hunt was prepared to join the Casey ticket?

Not the Schwab ticket but the Casey ticket?

Up until that point Rex had not taken sides but he comitted to the Casey ticket. Sure there's been a stuff up but at the end of the day the fact is Rex was prepared to work with Casey. It has to mean something.

Maybe Casey promised him a juice bar?
Title: Re: Breaking news
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 23, 2004, 06:04:38 PM

Maybe Casey promised him a juice bar?

Touche 1980 ;D

I'll pay that  :rollin :lol :rollin