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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: torch on April 10, 2010, 10:05:05 PM
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Round 4: Richmond v Melbourne
Our Chance?
:gotigers
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No chance
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No chance
Cmon Jack! You said we certainties to beat Footscay! Now we are no chance?
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Visit some of Jacks earlier posts about how we are gunna be amazed this year :rollin
Yep amazed we will be 0-22 at seasons end :'(
One thing at least! We know we are sh|t - Carlton fans are finding out the hard way :rollin stooges the lot of em
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Very very good chance.
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on paper we should win i believe but see how they go tomorrow if they can back up there performance from playing collingwood see what kinda level of footy there playing at.
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Visit some of Jacks earlier posts about how we are gunna be amazed this year :rollin
Yep amazed we will be 0-22 at seasons end :'(
One thing at least! We know we are sh|t - Carlton fans are finding out the hard way :rollin stooges the lot of em
Mate , I was taking the pee out of some on here
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If the Dees win tomorrow we will be morals next week.
Even if we are at $3 or drifters even further out get on. I can see us winning.
If the Dees get smashed tomorrow we will still be underdogs at the tote based on their good effort against the Pies last week.
Last year we were expected to win round 4 despite our first three losses, Melbourne had nothing to lose and treated it as their best chance to win a game and built up for it.
Internally Hardwick may have prepared and built the team up for this game as it seems to be the most winnable one. Hence we may reverse last years round 4 result.
I personally expect to see us win next win. Won't be disappointed if we don't however will be our best chance to win till Dreamtime at the G in my opinion.
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Melbourne by 40 :(
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I'm laying us every week. Interesting to see how far I can go with this.
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No chance if Hardwick persists with Tuck off half back and Rance forward, Rance and White shouldnt be playing in this first place :banghead
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No chance if Hardwick persists with Tuck off half back and Rance forward, Rance and White shouldnt be playing in this first place :banghead
hes got no players :banghead
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If Will plays a chance. Need a big one from Jack, Cousins and Brett if we are to have any chance of winning.
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Melbourne 1.8-14 to half-time matching our effort last night. Mind you it's windy at the 'G and the Crows are 4.9.
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Melbourne will be in the 8 after next week, our skill level is no ware near theirs and we are not as hard at the ball as them. They looked very good against the Crows today and they never dropped their heads.
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if we play 4 quarters like we did in the second half v sydney we will win
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From what I saw/heard a shocking game especially that first half. Crows had no one on the bench after half-time to rotate and that allowed Melbourne to run over them. The Dees may end up beating us but they are still a crap side. As we know 1 goal in a half of footy is pathetic. Could be NIL-ALL next week lol. Trengove (excellent today) and Martin will probably be the best two players on the park next week which says a lot about the quality of both lists.
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feel sorry for adelaide there being hit hard by injury's.
hopefully we get a win over the dee's we've still got the better list out of to poor lists.
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Melbourne will be in the 8 after next week, our skill level is no ware near theirs and we are not as hard at the ball as them. They looked very good against the Crows today and they never dropped their heads.
How much pressure did Adelaide put on Melb WAT?
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Melbourne will be in the 8 after next week, our skill level is no ware near theirs and we are not as hard at the ball as them. They looked very good against the Crows today and they never dropped their heads.
How much pressure did Adelaide put on Melb WAT?
It was a very scrappy game Al, lots of scrambling pressure but the only time it flowed was the last 5 minutes when Adelaide finally ran out of legs (they had about 15 inside 50's in the last quarter for 1 point). Adelaide were woeful and are clearly suffering from their injury list but it took Melbourne all game and an 'unfair' advantage of 4 more fit men to finally run them down. One thing Melbourne have improved in is tackling but apart from that not much else. Just like us, when we are up and running our skills look better but under pressure not so much - Melbourne were the same today - their first half was utter crap.
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From what I saw/heard a shocking game especially that first half. Crows had no one on the bench after half-time to rotate and that allowed Melbourne to run over them. The Dees may end up beating us but they are still a crap side. As we know 1 goal in a half of footy is pathetic. Could be NIL-ALL next week lol. Trengove (excellent today) and Martin will probably be the best two players on the park next week which says a lot about the quality of both lists.
Totally agree.
Watched the entire melbourne game today.
Some chance for a nil all draw next week,.
It will be ugly
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cheers WAT
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seeing they only kicked 7g it tells me we could be some chance, we'll see
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Melbourne will be in the 8 after next week, our skill level is no ware near theirs and we are not as hard at the ball as them. They looked very good against the Crows today and they never dropped their heads.
How much pressure did Adelaide put on Melb WAT?
Sorry al I have not been on my computer until now. I thought the pressure was on the entire game actually, right up until Jones goal in the last. The Dees have a pretty good game plan, I don't think we will beat them, I hope we do but after watching us for 3 weeks and the Dees they seem a bit more ahead IMO.
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Melbourne will be in the 8 after next week, our skill level is no ware near theirs and we are not as hard at the ball as them. They looked very good against the Crows today and they never dropped their heads.
How much pressure did Adelaide put on Melb WAT?
Sorry al I have not been on my computer until now. I thought the pressure was on the entire game actually, right up until Jones goal in the last. The Dees have a pretty good game plan, I don't think we will beat them, I hope we do but after watching us for 3 weeks and the Dees they seem a bit more ahead IMO.
THEY HAVE A TERRIBLE GAME PLAN< AS DID THE CROWS :banghead :banghead :banghead
Watched the entire game, on most occasions they had 16 players sitting in D50, now thats a good game plan , NOT !
Did you watch Freo and Geelong game ? Thats a great game plan by both teams, quick transition football :thumbsup
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Who am l going to follow next week Jack ;D
l hold a Melbourne membership as most know & after watching them today they are miles in front of Richmond in all departments
l'm just so confused the carnage down at Tigerland. so l'm backing Melbourne to skin the toothless Tigers :lol
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I was actually at the game today. Freezing and extremely blistery windy conditions.
Melbourne simply has no forwardline. Newton is hopeless and Green is ok but works to far up the ground as the got numbers back all day. Apart from that there forwardline was pretty open with young Bennall being pretty handy.
Jack Grimes is a class act and won them the game in the last quarter, very very very good player off half back.
They rely massively on Davey's kicking skills, the guys doesn't miss a target.
Frawley down back in handy as is Garland. There midfield was OK and didn't dominate, fairly scrappy stuff.
To there credit they had a crack. Our backline should beat there forwardline convincingly. Our forwards will struggle as they get numbers back and we'll turn the ball over a bit. In turn hopefully they continue to turnover the ball a bit aswell so we can get our hands on it ore often than not.
The game will probably be one in the midfield as always. Deledio has to have a big game for us to win as does Jackson on Davey and Jack up forward. If Martin or Cotchin can havea good to great game we should go very close to beating them.
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Who am l going to follow next week Jack ;D
l hold a Melbourne membership as most know & after watching them today they are miles in front of Richmond in all departments
l'm just so confused the carnage down at Tigerland. so l'm backing Melbourne to skin the toothless Tigers :lol
Well stuff off to the Demonland forum then. :stupid
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I watched too and regardless the style of game the pressure was pretty relentless.
For that reason alone I think we will be too soft and Melbourne are gunna win this.
Don't know what is going on at the cows but all credit to Melbourne, not forgetting they took the Skunks to the wire a week before.
Think the way the cows are going shows how much the game is played above the shoulders, they should be doing better.
If we are gunna rely on Jack up forward we are in trouble because that Frawley dude is a pretty damn good player.
We will need to get players at the fall of the ball in the forward line and for that reason I would get Nahas back in the side with stern instructions he has a point to prove.
As for skunkmonk I know 10 year olds with more brains than you, not kidding - I wont be wasting any more breath on you - F off tard
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no-one cares ;D l never wasted my breath on you CUB ever so go tell someone who cares.
my heart bleeds for you too Tigersalive :lol Richmond are poo on & off the field & your paying for that LMFAO
Keep paying cause l have seen the light
AFL players my ass :shh half of them would not make seniors in a normal comp kicking like that :rollin they be bench warmers chewing oranges
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no-one cares ;D l never wasted my breath on you CUB ever so go tell someone who cares.
my heart bleeds for you too Tigersalive :lol Richmond are poo on & off the field & your paying for that LMFAO
Keep paying cause l have seen the light
AFL players my ass :shh half of them would not make seniors in a normal comp kicking like that :rollin they be bench warmers chewing oranges
Tigers will pump Melbourne this week.
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no-one cares ;D l never wasted my breath on you CUB ever so go tell someone who cares.
my heart bleeds for you too Tigersalive :lol Richmond are poo on & off the field & your paying for that LMFAO
Keep paying cause l have seen the light
AFL players my ass :shh half of them would not make seniors in a normal comp kicking like that :rollin they be bench warmers chewing oranges
Tigers will pump Melbourne this week.
Pump them...... with what?? ;D
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no-one cares ;D l never wasted my breath on you CUB ever so go tell someone who cares.
my heart bleeds for you too Tigersalive :lol Richmond are poo on & off the field & your paying for that LMFAO
Keep paying cause l have seen the light
AFL players my ass :shh half of them would not make seniors in a normal comp kicking like that :rollin they be bench warmers chewing oranges
Tigers will pump Melbourne this week.
Man - I hope we can just pull off a victory - confidence/winning can be a wonderful thing and boy do we need it.
I'll be there .....
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Not sure why some of us are getting our hopes up, we will be lucky to win a game this year. Give it away ppl, go outside play with your kids or if you dont have kids go see a movie.
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Hopefully Melbourne will be off the boil after their win over Adelaide. The alleged bad behaviour of players in Sydney will mean the spotlight is going to be on us all week. Need a win to breed confidence in club.
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Hopefully Melbourne will be off the boil after their win over Adelaide. The alleged bad behaviour of players in Sydney will mean the spotlight is going to be on us all week. Need a win to breed confidence in club.
if we play 4 quarters like our 2nd half v sydney we will win easy
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we must win!
>:(
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no-one cares ;D l never wasted my breath on you CUB ever so go tell someone who cares.
my heart bleeds for you too Tigersalive :lol Richmond are poo on & off the field & your paying for that LMFAO
Keep paying cause l have seen the light
AFL players my ass :shh half of them would not make seniors in a normal comp kicking like that :rollin they be bench warmers chewing oranges
Tigers will pump Melbourne this week.
Pump them...... with what?? ;D
Oranges ;D
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Dwayne Russell called this week's game "Richmond's Grand Final. It's a game they must win."
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Dwayne Russell called this week's game "Richmond's Grand Final. It's a game they must win."
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As opposed to other games?
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Not much point mincing my words here after the crap week and month we have endured. Melbourne will beat us IMO, the way were are traveling I would be surprised if we get out of this one under 40 points. I just haven't seen enough to prove me wrong this year so far where as the Dees have really taken it sides in their last two games.
With the amount of changes we will have and if Newy is not playing, IMO no chance, I am sick of deluding myself withe false hope, optimism, keeping the faith, backing the players etc... etc...
Time to call it like I see it and I can't see us winning... :(
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Have to agree - Could be a Nastee place around here come Monday. :help
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With all the BS this week, if it doesn't galvanise the players into having a red hot go then nothing will.
WE will win!
I know some people will be disappointed when it happens though.
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With all the BS this week, if it doesn't galvanise the players into having a red hot go then nothing will.
WE will win!
I know some people will be disappointed when it happens though.
I sure as hell won't be disappointed if we win al I can tell you that, it will show the true heart of some of these players, but then we will question where that heart has been this year so far.
I am just looking at this game as a realist instead of through the rose coloured glasses I usually wear and I just can not see us getting up.
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If we win it is gunna be HUGE for the team considering all that is going on around.
And some wont give it credit ::)
Whatever happens come Monday can people just see the bigger picture and not go into meltdown ... I know it's hard.
I will be up front and centre and will be looking for the baby steps amongst what I feel maybe at times, if not most of the time not too pretty. :help :gotigers :pray
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we must win!
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saying it again!
>:(
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Melbourne have been tackling very very well the last 2 weeks, will be interesting to see how we cope with their new found intensity and pressure
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Well I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I was just watching Fox League Teams and they were saying that out of the 3 games we have played this year we have only been in front for a total of 1% which equates to 3.40 minutes of game time. Now that is over 3 games not one... :o
They (BT, Parkin, I'm a idiot Shaw and Smith) also said that we are worse than Fitzroy when they played their last game. They actually put the Fitzroy team up and they did have a few decent players that went on to play many more games with other clubs.
They also said we have no chance of beating Melbourne and our side was rabble. Smith did try to defend us, albeit weakly to some degree. It really infuriated me they way they mocked us and the way we are at the moment. They were nothing short of insulting and it poos me to tears.
I hope the hell we go out there and tear the Dees another arse hole.
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Well I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I was just watching Fox League Teams and they were saying that out of the 3 games we have played this year we have only been in front for a total of 1% which equates to 3.40 minutes of game time. Now that is over 3 games not one... :o
They (BT, Parkin, I'm a idiot Shaw and Smith) also said that we are worse than Fitzroy when they played their last game. They actually put the Fitzroy team up and they did have a few decent players that went on to play many more games with other clubs.
They also said we have no chance of beating Melbourne and our side was rabble. Smith did try to defend us, albeit weakly to some degree. It really infuriated me they way they mocked us and the way we are at the moment. They were nothing short of insulting and it poos me to tears.
I hope the hell we go out there and tear the Dees another behind hole.
stuffen oath WA, hope dimma hears all this and we kill th demons, what will thy all say if we win easy , arsemunchers!
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Well I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I was just watching Fox League Teams and they were saying that out of the 3 games we have played this year we have only been in front for a total of 1% which equates to 3.40 minutes of game time. Now that is over 3 games not one... :o
They (BT, Parkin, I'm a idiot Shaw and Smith) also said that we are worse than Fitzroy when they played their last game. They actually put the Fitzroy team up and they did have a few decent players that went on to play many more games with other clubs.
They also said we have no chance of beating Melbourne and our side was rabble. Smith did try to defend us, albeit weakly to some degree. It really infuriated me they way they mocked us and the way we are at the moment. They were nothing short of insulting and it poos me to tears.
I hope the hell we go out there and tear the Dees another behind hole.
effen oath WA, hope dimma hears all this and we kill th demons, what will thy all say if we win easy , behindmunchers!
They will be the first to jump on our band wagon in a couple of years when we are up and about and that annoys the pee out of me. stuff I would love to meet Shaw one day... ;)
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Thats about the worst Tiger side I ever seen. But very young. Reminds me a bit like KBs years as coach. And some good kids sprouted from that period........
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If the bench is how a lot of supporters think it will be then we'll have 13 Tigers 21 y.o. and under and 10 who have played less than 20 games. That's extraordinarily young and inexperienced. We just don't have any senior core let alone a decent one :help.
31: Simmonds (193)
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28: Tuck (111)
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26: Moore (68 )
25: Polak# (108 )
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23: Jackson (72), Morton (53), Tambling (98)
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22: Deledio (109), White (55)
21: Collins (10), Edwards (50), Riewoldt (49)
20: Post (9), Rance (17), Farmer (5), Nason (3)
19: Cotchin (28 ), Vickery (12), Astbury (-)
18: Martin (3), Dea (-), Taylor (-)
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Odds
Melbourne $1.28
Richmond $3.60
But it hasn't all been one-way traffic, with one Richmond supporter backing the Tigers at the line of plus 22.5 points, having $20,000 on at $1.90.
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Well I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I was just watching Fox League Teams and they were saying that out of the 3 games we have played this year we have only been in front for a total of 1% which equates to 3.40 minutes of game time. Now that is over 3 games not one... :o
That would have to be the dumbest statement ever (excluding the ones made by certain posters here).
No crap that we have been convincingly beaten in three games so it is captain obvious that we are not in front when we are getting flogged week in week out.
Those three minutes we were in front would be the Sydney game where we had two points before the Swans got a goal.
Dumb rs statement of the century, who was the bright spark who came up with that WAT
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Well I don't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I was just watching Fox League Teams and they were saying that out of the 3 games we have played this year we have only been in front for a total of 1% which equates to 3.40 minutes of game time. Now that is over 3 games not one... :o
That would have to be the dumbest statement ever (excluding the ones made by certain posters here).
No crap that we have been convincingly beaten in three games so it is captain obvious that we are not in front when we are getting flogged week in week out.
Those three minutes we were in front would be the Sydney game where we had two points before the Swans got a goal.
Dumb rs statement of the century, who was the bright spark who came up with that WAT
That would be BT coming up with that one Chuck. You know what I have really noticed that this year BT has turned on us, usually he is not that bad but gee the knives have been out from him.
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Hopefully the game isn't based purely on stats so far this season. We're behind Melbourne in every category :-\
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_teams?tid1=112&tid2=109
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We are coming from so far back that all I want from the boys in the short term is 100% effort at every contest all game every game. Not too worried about unforced errors bc these will keep on happening for another 18 months at least anyway andtakes time to improve, but effort and intensity can be improved immediately. We better not let melbourne smash us at the contest will be devastating
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If we win it is gunna be HUGE for the team considering all that is going on around.
And some wont give it credit ::)
Whatever happens come Monday can people just see the bigger picture and not go into meltdown ... I know it's hard.
I will be up front and centre and will be looking for the baby steps amongst what I feel maybe at times, if not most of the time not too pretty. :help :gotigers :pray
Any win by a team as young as ours would deserve credit. If we win tomorrow it wont be a cheap win. I think its important to try and win some games if we can.
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I'd say it's important to win as many games as you can.
If you don't go out to win, what the point of even running out on the ground?
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we will win tomorrow
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Tiges vey confident, Hislop playing on ball ::)
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we have re3ason to be confident of our chances, it's absurd to suggest a side can be odds on favs yet theyve failed to kick mroe than 7g this year
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we have re3ason to be confident of our chances, it's absurd to suggest a side can be odds on favs yet theyve failed to kick mroe than 7g this year
Would agree, although we have kicked 9/7/7
Melb kicked 12 goals in round 2
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we have played better teams than melb so far, dont worry, they may be fav, but we are better and we will win
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Tiges vey confident, Hislop playing on ball ::)
Yep heaven forbid we might give him a chance to play in the position he played the majority of his junior career before we decide to cut him.
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Tiges vey confident, Hislop playing on ball ::)
Yep heaven forbid we might give him a chance to play in the position he played the majority of his junior career before we decide to cut him.
hislop as a mid will work, he is hard tough and will fight tooth and nail for the ball, solid body will free up lids and co
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Tiges vey confident, Hislop playing on ball ::)
Yep heaven forbid we might give him a chance to play in the position he played the majority of his junior career before we decide to cut him.
hislop as a mid will work, he is hard tough and will fight tooth and nail for the ball, solid body will free up lids and co
I tend to agree X - he certainly shows all the attributes to be a decent grunt mid and his average kicking might not be so costly in terms of scores. Certainly worth a try.
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A warmish day for two young sides. Getting off to a good start will be important while everyone is fresh and up and about.
:gotigers
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why the hell is baseball still on when this game should be on foxtel, not happy :P
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I am starting to think we could have a meaningless win!
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Dwayne Russel deserves a hit upside the head for every time he says "Richmond's grand final"
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lol, they're saying Melbourne not running on all cylinders!
Melbourne has only beaten Adelaide, not much of a feather in the cap this season.
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I am starting to think we could have a meaningless win!
Having our young blokes like Martin, Nason, Dea and Co singing our song at the end of the game is enough reason to win.
Seeing how they react to a win would be Brilliant. :gotigers
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I am starting to think we could have a meaningless win!
Having our young blokes like Martin, Nason, Dea and Co singing our song at the end of the game is enough reason to win.
Seeing how they react to a win would be Brilliant. :gotigers
Dont think thats gonna happen Melb are a better side atm
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and the game is over in the 3rd
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Bugger :banghead :banghead
How are the first gamers going
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all the young guys have done some good things but we are getting thrashed by Melbourne. Whens the last time Simmonds had an effective disposal.
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all the young guys have done some good things but we are getting thrashed by Melbourne. Whens the last time Simmonds had an effective disposal.
simmonds should retire
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If we're giving kids a go everywhere else, then f**k Simmonds off and stick Browne in.
Can't be any worse.
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Any Coburg scores. They're of more interest to me than the seniors at the moment.
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Great to see the new guys, they went really well IMO, leave them in now and let the team grow together. Tuck played well too, Edwards please go a find a job!!
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tell you what too, I really wished the hell GC17 were not coming in for another year, with priority picks and the No.1 draft pick this year we really could have built a great team IMO. I think the AFL need to give us some sort of compensation.
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tell you what too, I really wished the hell GC17 were not coming in for another year, with priority picks and the No.1 draft pick this year we really could have built a great team IMO. I think the AFL need to give us some sort of compensation.
we desperately need another early pick. we will get pick 4 but the club should ask the AFL for an extra pick early. The afl commission may give it to us.
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If we're giving kids a go everywhere else, then f**k Simmonds off and stick Browne in.
Can't be any worse.
Agree 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 %. He is not providing anything at all to the benefit of the team - short, medium or long term.
And might I also add the names Edwards, White and Tuck to that.
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If we're giving kids a go everywhere else, then f**k Simmonds off and stick Browne in.
Can't be any worse.
Agree 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 %. He is not providing anything at all to the benefit of the team - short, medium or long term.
And might I also add the names Edwards, White and Tuck to that.
Yep those 4 had shockers. Dropped next week hopefully
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If we're giving kids a go everywhere else, then f**k Simmonds off and stick Browne in.
Can't be any worse.
Agree 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 %. He is not providing anything at all to the benefit of the team - short, medium or long term.
And might I also add the names Edwards, White and Tuck to that.
Agree with 3 out of the 4, edwards, white and especialy Simmons should go. Tuck was one of our best I thought but only saw it on TV.
I thought Moore was one of our best on the day and McLaren was one of the best for Melbourne. He is the one that turned the game around in the third quater.
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'Dingles' Astbury was good, kicked 3 for us kicked a really tight shot like it was nothing, he is probably going to get another call up.... Jack Riewoldt, still a bit shaky on set shots but kicked 3 and worked like a dog all day, and did some captain style poo round the ground, he still should of had 5 goals at least, missed 2 sodas from bad run up technique. Taylor is going to be poo hot, pulls some stunts out his clacker, really quick in a pinch, kicked a ripper goal in a crowd and had two good cracks in similar situations, has some sweet tricks. Sylvia could of slammed em on his boot and kicked em overhead ala whacko Jacko and they would of went through today the jammy prick. Bit soul destroying getting cleaned up by this mob of jackoffs, now we are truly at the bottom of the foodchain. Only way is up. What number would be the priority pick if we got creamed this year and the Melbourne tankers don't tank again? IE we get 4 and what..
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If we're giving kids a go everywhere else, then f**k Simmonds off and stick Browne in.
Can't be any worse.
Agree 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 %. He is not providing anything at all to the benefit of the team - short, medium or long term.
And might I also add the names Edwards, White and Tuck to that.
Yep those 4 had shockers. Dropped next week hopefully
Add Jackson as well
In- Cousins, McGuane, Newman, (Foley- where is Axel?) and one other doesnt matter who- we need to get the blokes who cant kick out of the team.
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Just got home.
Pathetic effort today.
Highlights /Lowlights.
Moore was excellent.
Martin, Tuck, were okay.
Astbury showed something.
Lowlights,
Lids,
Tambling ::)
Vickery, AINT GOING TO MAKE it.
Dea, how much footy has this kid played, as he has no idea, gave Melb 3 goals by handballing straight to them, cant he kick ::)
Hislop, shouldnt be playing at AFL level.
Collins ::)
White ::) ::) :banghead
Edwards ::) :banghead
Jackson ::) :banghead
Rance ::) :banghead
Now Jack Riewoldt, cannot kick and is technically flawed, maybe just maybe Jack should spend his spare time away from the club practising his kicking, instead of playing the Roulette Wheel at Crown :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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100 more possesions to the Demons.
Tambling 7 kicks 5 handballs ::)
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all the young guys have done some good things but we are getting thrashed by Melbourne. Whens the last time Simmonds had an effective disposal.
simmonds should retire
if you yhink he is bad you should see how graham and btowne are performing lately
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Truth is blaisee I dont rate any of our rucks. Only Vickery and for me he is more a forward pocket/resting ruckman type of player. Id be delisting all of them bar Vickery. Simmonds has been a great Warrior for us and for what we paid to get him hes been a very good player but its over and Hardwick needs to call it.
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100 more possesions to the Demons.
Tambling 7 kicks 5 handballs ::)
dont go bagging tambling for a poor game, we're biased if we call him up on another shocking performance, according to one particular poster, he's our best :rollin
Hopefully today finally hit home to the remaining glass half full types as to how bad we really are. :banghead
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all the young guys have done some good things but we are getting thrashed by Melbourne. Whens the last time Simmonds had an effective disposal.
simmonds should retire
if you yhink he is bad you should see how graham and btowne are performing lately
Maybe but let's see what they've got at the top level. Graham to play for his career, Browne for the experience. Neither can be any worse than Simmonds, sad to say.
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all the young guys have done some good things but we are getting thrashed by Melbourne. Whens the last time Simmonds had an effective disposal.
simmonds should retire
if you yhink he is bad you should see how graham and btowne are performing lately
Graham shouldnt be on the list, very bad mistake by the club.
They knew they had a problem with the Rucks, Sheeds is correct with his article, should of picked experienced ruckman last years, but they resign Simmonds ::)
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You were ranting and raving about how it was a great decision to hang on to Simmonds, Jack. Don't give us that flip-flop crap.
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You were ranting and raving about how it was a great decision to hang on to Simmonds, Jack. Don't give us that flip-flop crap.
Only reason I said that is this.
They didnt want to deal for a ruckman.
And I know the others ruckman was have aint any good, so what do you do, ???
Another reason I thought to keep Simmonds would be help Vickery, but Vickery cant help himself
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Vickery is in his 2nd season. Give him another year or two. I thought he was pathetic today, but it'll happen with young kids. I'd be looking for a mid-aged ruckman with the upcoming draft that's struggling to get a game with a side. I'd suggest Hampson from Carlton, but he's just re-signed with them. I'm struggling to think of many others. Leuenberger's stated he's a 1-club guy. Can't think of many others.
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Vickery is in his 2nd season. Give him another year or two. I thought he was pathetic today, but it'll happen with young kids. I'd be looking for a mid-aged ruckman with the upcoming draft that's struggling to get a game with a side. I'd suggest Hampson from Carlton, but he's just re-signed with them. I'm struggling to think of many others. Leuenberger's stated he's a 1-club guy. Can't think of many others.
Hampson and Leuenberger would cost an arm and a leg nevertheless we have some name players that may want to leave at seasons end. Carlton may like a forward- anyone prepared to trade a Riewoldt to get a Hampson? Because thats what Itll cost.
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Yes . Trade him
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Yes . Trade him
Big Call Jacko, a Very Big Call!
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Yes . Trade him
Would be stupid.
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Yes . Trade him
Would be stupid.
Why , please explain then.
Might just further add we traded our club captain in 1994 and made the finals the following year, as we got players in return we actually wanted.
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
But he was Club Captain.
Jack Riewoldt cant kick and never will it seems
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jack i hate to misquote people but i think it was Damien who early in the week said that if people believe that Jack and mitch will be our number 1 and number 2 forwards in 2-3 years time they are mistaken..I think he even realises that these boys arent key position...in fairness thugh Jack R did work his butt off today..cant say the same for mitch though
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jack i hate to misquote people but i think it was Damien who early in the week said that if people believe that Jack and mitch will be our number 1 and number 2 forwards in 2-3 years time they are mistaken..I think he even realises that these boys arent key position...in fairness thugh Jack R did work his butt off today..cant say the same for mitch though
totally agree
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Even better reason to trade him then
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We ran out of juice about 5 mins into the 3rd quarter. The whole side looked as if they hit the wall. Once again we got killed on the spread and paid dearly for our turnovers. It's been the same pattern in all 4 games. Contested possies and clearances are fairly similar but we are getting smashed in uncontested possies and marks. The danger was always Melbourne being too quick for us. We were able to keep up for a half before the game opened up after half-time and we got blown away. It doesn't help either we don't get reward for effort on the scoreboard (through our own fault because we're crap). We should have been in front at quartertime and halftime based on general play.
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We wouldn't get whole Riewoldt is worth in a trade. He will be a gun once our forwardline gets going. He's taking on the #1 defender at the moment. If he could even take #2 he'd be a lot better.
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jack was fantastic today, if he were richo and kicked 3 .5 none of this talk would be going on
jacl was a gem today, and was a team man
hew wont be traded , he is too good and smart a footballer
his kicking will improve as teh team improves
he was our best today
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
But he was Club Captain.
Jack Riewoldt cant kick and never will it seems
he doesnt miss them at training does he?
I saw him lifting his hand holding the ball as he kicks, you said he should lean over the ball as he kicks. That makes me think perhaps his problem is weight transfer. Just like a golf swing the weight has to from back foot to front foot, but sometimes when things arnt working weight goes back rather than forward and everything goes out of kilter.
At the moment his kicking for goal is his main fault in his game. You identify why and solve it, not trade him so someone else can fix it and reap the benefits
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Ridiculous call to trade him, for a 21 year old kpp to be the solo tall in attack to be doing well as he's been doing and he'll get better too. Clearly his workrate has improved this year and he's getting more well built each year. It's also possible that the added work rate is making him more fatigued as he's taking his shot.
I've often noticed talls goal kicking conversion rate drop as they put on size, perhaps the added bulk changes their gait and they need to adjust to compensate. Nick Riewoldt went through a similar sort of thing, his goal kicking went pretty awol for a while, but is much better now.
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He doesnt take enough steps in his run up and run in a straight line. He also trys for extra distance that throws his leg across his body- he can compensate for this, he needs practice his kicking or goal but to trade him - FOR WHAT , (a lucky dip ) draft pick or another sides reject. :lol
PS: How old is he?????????????????
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21 I think
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
But he was Club Captain.
Jack Riewoldt cant kick and never will it seems
he doesnt miss them at training does he?
I saw him lifting his hand holding the ball as he kicks, you said he should lean over the ball as he kicks. That makes me think perhaps his problem is weight transfer. Just like a golf swing the weight has to from back foot to front foot, but sometimes when things arnt working weight goes back rather than forward and everything goes out of kilter.
At the moment his kicking for goal is his main fault in his game. You identify why and solve it, not trade him so someone else can fix it and reap the benefits
Agree to a ceratin extent.
Would be good trade value though
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Melbourne's midfield absolutely murdered our midfield!
Martin, Jackson, Hislop, Edwards, Cotchin (a few times), Tuck (in the final quarter)
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Jones, Trengove, McKenzie Moloney (Best On Ground), McDonald, Scully, Davey.
Martin's opponents were Moloney and Jones.
this match, Martin was average.
he got beaten badly.
Richmond always go to ground!
never keep their feet like Melbourne did!
plus! a big plus! hard, strong running together, which killed Richmond.
Deledio, Tambling never played in the midfield which was interesting!
Hislop, Jackson, Martin - the most combination in the midfield.
i noticed Edwards in the midfield during the first half.
Cotchin played across half back which is where Deledio was all day, same as Tuck which was interesting.
Hardwick gave Hislop a chance in the midfield, and IMO failed.
Melbourne's midfield always looked stronger and faster thanks to Jones and Moloney, i was impressed with their match, A LOT!
i hope Richmond and Martin actually watch other players keeping their feet!
you don't see Geelong's midfield loosing their feet!
Riewoldt was good!
kicking 3.4 was disappointing, but what i found more disappointing was that Riewoldt had to go into defence!
Post, Rance? where were they?
Riewoldt is a forward! leave him there!
Post? he is confused! forward or back?
play him forward! or play him in one position!
all pre-season in the backline and now throw forward and back?
MAKE UP YOUR MIND! because this is obviously not what we thought he would be!
needs to be at Coburg next week!
White, Rance, Collins, Edwards, Hislop - ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? trade them, delisted them or GET THEM STARTED IN A POSITION!
Astbury kicked three, but i hardly saw him in the second and third?
Nason i thought was good, competed, Moore was our best defender and good for his confidence!
Tambling played everywhere else but where he should be which is in the midfield!
Deledio across half back, new role, did not work, because he got beaten! beaten by himself!
Deledio is loosing confidence in himself.
Hardwick said that Deledio will play in the midfield.
well, he hasn't, however Hardwick is trying things which is good because he will understand a lot more which players can offer anything.
but when you are loosing by 56, 72, 55 and 55, the pressure will rise!
without Foley, you would say that our best midfield would be Martin, Deledio and Cotchin, well that has not happened at all this season so far.
Hardwick has got to understand that Edwards and Hislop have got to be off the list for next year!
Farmer could be a worry too!
our forward line structure and scoreboard pressure is still very average and you can not rely on Riewoldt to do everything.
did Mitch Morton play?
Taylor has class and skill, you can see, so play him!
i would keep, Martin. Astbury, Taylor, Dea, Nason all in the team for next week!
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
That was the best trade our club has done in 20 years.
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
That was the best trade our club has done in 20 years.
Would agree, need to do the same at the end of this year :thumbsup
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
That was the best trade our club has done in 20 years.
Would agree, need to do the same at the end of this year :thumbsup
Trade our captain?
I actually agree, thought we should have last year actually
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Jeff Hogg had a back problem.
That was the best trade our club has done in 20 years.
Would agree, need to do the same at the end of this year :thumbsup
Trade our captain?
I actually agree, thought we should have last year actually
AGree.
We also should have had Jackson on the trade table last year.
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Given we cut so many players last year, I'm not that fussed if we try to trade some of these players this year instead of last
I think its more important that we improve our position in the draft this year compared to last year