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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiger till i die on May 02, 2010, 04:30:46 PM
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
Crows will finish higher than us make no mistake about that.
We need to win at least one game or it will be the biggest embarrasment the club has faced in 30 years. We just have to win this 1
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
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i agree crows will win some games near end of season once they get there players back we need to win this one while there down for the club spirit.
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
I disagree - there seems to be a gap between the first 4 and the 6th player in the draft this year.
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we won't get within 8 goals of the crows, they are nowhere near as bad as us
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
I disagree - there seems to be a gap between the first 4 and the 6th player in the draft this year.
Between Morabito and Rohan? How on earth can you possibly tell that at this stage of their respective careers?
I could counter by saying that in 2008 there was a gap between 4th (Hamish Hartlett) and 5th (Michael Hurley) or better still between 4th and 41st (Todd Banfield).
Or in 2007 between 4th (Cale Morton) and 12th (Cyril Rioli).
Or in 2006 between 4th (Matthew Leuenberger) and 7th (Joel Selwood).
Or in 2005 between 4th (Josh Kennedy) and 11th (Shaun Higgins).
And I could go on and on and on and on with examples of how the number of the draft pick doesn't matter nearly as much as the work you do as a club in researching to identify the right players.
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
I disagree - there seems to be a gap between the first 4 and the 6th player in the draft this year.
Between Morabito and Rohan? How on earth can you possibly tell that at this stage of their respective careers?
I could counter by saying that in 2008 there was a gap between 4th (Hamish Hartlett) and 5th (Michael Hurley) or better still between 4th and 41st (Todd Banfield).
Or in 2007 between 4th (Cale Morton) and 12th (Cyril Rioli).
Or in 2006 between 4th (Matthew Leuenberger) and 7th (Joel Selwood).
Or in 2005 between 4th (Josh Kennedy) and 11th (Shaun Higgins).
And I could go on and on and on and on with examples of how the number of the draft pick doesn't matter nearly as much as the work you do as a club in researching to identify the right players.
gary rohan is going to be a freak of the highest order
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
I disagree - there seems to be a gap between the first 4 and the 6th player in the draft this year.
Between Morabito and Rohan? How on earth can you possibly tell that at this stage of their respective careers?
I could counter by saying that in 2008 there was a gap between 4th (Hamish Hartlett) and 5th (Michael Hurley) or better still between 4th and 41st (Todd Banfield).
Or in 2007 between 4th (Cale Morton) and 12th (Cyril Rioli).
Or in 2006 between 4th (Matthew Leuenberger) and 7th (Joel Selwood).
Or in 2005 between 4th (Josh Kennedy) and 11th (Shaun Higgins).
And I could go on and on and on and on with examples of how the number of the draft pick doesn't matter nearly as much as the work you do as a club in researching to identify the right players.
im talking the 2010 national draft not last years
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im talking the 2010 national draft not last years
Thats even more incredulous Ramps. What's next weeks lotto numbers?
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im talking the 2010 national draft not last years
Thats even more incredulous Ramps. What's next weeks lotto numbers?
i will consult the herald sun star signs and get back to you :thumbsup
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im talking the 2010 national draft not last years
Thats even more incredulous Ramps. What's next weeks lotto numbers?
i will consult the herald sun star signs and get back to you :thumbsup
Good man. One set of 6 correct should suffice. :thumbsup ;D
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
Crows will finish higher than us make no mistake about that.
We need to win at least one game or it will be the biggest embarrasment the club has faced in 30 years. We just have to win this 1
This 1, and Dreamtime at the G. Then I'll be happy
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yeh its about time for us to win that
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
The difference between 4th pick and 5th? No difference. Win as many as we can.
I disagree - there seems to be a gap between the first 4 and the 6th player in the draft this year.
Between Morabito and Rohan? How on earth can you possibly tell that at this stage of their respective careers?
I could counter by saying that in 2008 there was a gap between 4th (Hamish Hartlett) and 5th (Michael Hurley) or better still between 4th and 41st (Todd Banfield).
Or in 2007 between 4th (Cale Morton) and 12th (Cyril Rioli).
Or in 2006 between 4th (Matthew Leuenberger) and 7th (Joel Selwood).
Or in 2005 between 4th (Josh Kennedy) and 11th (Shaun Higgins).
And I could go on and on and on and on with examples of how the number of the draft pick doesn't matter nearly as much as the work you do as a club in researching to identify the right players.
why not just go by Richmond drafts as a example lol
only one they ever got right was Dustin Martin.
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For the club and for the supporters lets hope we win a bloody game
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We won't win next week. Adelaide as poor as they have been so far are still millenia ahead of us in terms of proffesionalism and that will be more than enough to get them over the line.
Dreamtime is our only realistic shot at a win in the first half of the year and the world realistic may be stretching the truth just a bit.
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We won't win next week. Adelaide as poor as they have been so far are still millenia ahead of us in terms of proffesionalism and that will be more than enough to get them over the line.
Dreamtime is our only realistic shot at a win in the first half of the year and the world realistic may be stretching the truth just a bit.
we will not win a game this year, and prob next yr also
we are crap, hardwick has a game plan for the stars, we are not a star team
ffs go back to basics , man on man footy, we only ever play well and compete when we play man on man footy
ffs wake up hardwick
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We'll win a few games next year.
If we play GC17 at the Dome or the G next year we'll beat them.
In Qld they will slaughter us.
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We'll win a few games next year.
If we play GC17 at the Dome or the G next year we'll beat them.
In Qld they will slaughter us.
if we lose to a bunch of boys i will change teams ... though i am excited to see jarred play for GC see what will happen
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In the Head-to-Head stats this year we are ahead of the Crows in first possessions, clearances, 1%ers :o and inside 50s. They've had more possession over their games.
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_teams?tid1=101&tid2=112
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We won't win next week. Adelaide as poor as they have been so far are still millenia ahead of us in terms of proffesionalism and that will be more than enough to get them over the line.
Dreamtime is our only realistic shot at a win in the first half of the year and the world realistic may be stretching the truth just a bit.
we will not win a game this year, and prob next yr also
we are crap, hardwick has a game plan for the stars, we are not a star team
ffs go back to basics , man on man footy, we only ever play well and compete when we play man on man footy
ffs wake up hardwick
Hardwick has had them playing man-on-man footy all year. In fact in another OER thread he was vilified by a few people for not sending a few extra men back in defense against Geelong on Sunday, opting instead to play man-on-man.
We will win a game this year, more than one actually and this week's game against Adelaide is one of our best chances. They've been playing a terrible brand of footy so far this year and there is much more pressure on them, given their 09 season compared to ours, to perform against us.
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The Crows crumble under scoreboard pressure.
If we can do what we did against Freo early, we'll beat them.
Give them the first couple of goals and we might as well forget it.
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Agree about scoreboard pressure. Adelaide have kicked only low scores this year. Bring in Polak to help out forward line. Need Jack to take his chances if we are to have any chance of success.
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Agree about scoreboard pressure. Bring in Polak to help out forward line.
Do those two sentances supposed to be related?
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When we play The crows and lets say we win... crows at the bottom of the ladder and they might get pick four .. some thing we REALLY need .. SO do we really want to win .. i would be happy to win but lets think of the consequences :-\
who gives a rats ass about pick #4?
we have wasted our chance to tank and get high draft picks.
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who gives a rats ass about pick #4?
we have wasted our chance to tank and get high draft picks.
I can think of a few clubs that might like #4. ;D
No point whinging about what was.
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I feel sorry for people who are looking forward to pick #4 ahead with more hunger and passion ahead of pick #5 or #6 with our first selection in the next national draft.
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I feel sorry for people who are looking forward to pick #4 ahead with more hunger and passion ahead of pick #5 or #6 with our first selection in the next national draft.
I feel sorry for people who talk about winning culture and clapped the team off the ground against Melbourne last year in round 18 and the sang the song heartily like it was a Grand Final only to give another high draft pick to a side that has won the last two wooden spoons yet by round 4 this year they are a 10 goal better side than us. :help
Would rather have pick 4 than pick 6.
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I feel sorry for people who are looking forward to pick #4 ahead with more hunger and passion ahead of pick #5 or #6 with our first selection in the next national draft.
I feel sorry for people who talk about winning culture and clapped the team off the ground against Melbourne last year in round 18 and the sang the song heartily like it was a Grand Final only to give another high draft pick to a side that has won the last two wooden spoons yet by round 4 this year they are a 10 goal better side than us. :help
Would rather have pick 4 than pick 6.
The way things are this year Tucker, i would kill for that moment again!
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In hindsight GR12 we beat Carlton in rd 1 2008 and spoilt their Judd love in. As good as that was we should of then proceeded to win 4 games rather than win 8 games in the second half of the year get the priority pick and pick up a Natanui as we need a ruckman and then proceed to pick up either pick 2 or 3 as we played Melbourne in the last game in 2008 with the potential of finishing last again or at worst in 15th or 14th as W Coast I think won 4 games in 08 also.
Wallace still would have been gone by half way through last year and we would have had a few more matchwinners in two of potentially Natanui Hurley Rich ...... At least the situation would not be as bleak in terms of the players we would have rather than sitting here now and wondering we can only get pick 4 and compromised drafts which just make the treacherous journey we are already on even more perilous and difficult.
The only game i'd take we win in the second half was the Brissy game at the Dome after we were 5 goals down at 3 qtr time. :thumbsup
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In hindsight GR12 we beat Carlton in rd 1 2008 and spoilt their Judd love in. As good as that was we should of then proceeded to win 4 games rather than win 8 games in the second half of the year get the priority pick and pick up a Natanui as we need a ruckman and then proceed to pick up either pick 2 or 3 as we played Melbourne in the last game in 2008 with the potential of finishing last again or at worst in 15th or 14th as W Coast I think won 4 games in 08 also.
Wallace still would have been gone by half way through last year and we would have had a few more matchwinners in two of potentially Natanui Hurley Rich ...... At least the situation would not be as bleak in terms of the players we would have rather than sitting here now and wondering we can only get pick 4 and compromised drafts which just make the treacherous journey we are already on even more perilous and difficult.
The only game i'd take we win in the second half was the Brissy game at the Dome after we were 5 goals down at 3 qtr time. :thumbsup
And I'd love this week's lotto numbers if that's ok Mr Hindsight?
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In hindsight GR12 we beat Carlton in rd 1 2008 and spoilt their Judd love in. As good as that was we should of then proceeded to win 4 games rather than win 8 games in the second half of the year get the priority pick and pick up a Natanui as we need a ruckman and then proceed to pick up either pick 2 or 3 as we played Melbourne in the last game in 2008 with the potential of finishing last again or at worst in 15th or 14th as W Coast I think won 4 games in 08 also.
Wallace still would have been gone by half way through last year and we would have had a few more matchwinners in two of potentially Natanui Hurley Rich ...... At least the situation would not be as bleak in terms of the players we would have rather than sitting here now and wondering we can only get pick 4 and compromised drafts which just make the treacherous journey we are already on even more perilous and difficult.
The only game i'd take we win in the second half was the Brissy game at the Dome after we were 5 goals down at 3 qtr time. :thumbsup
And I'd love this week's lotto numbers if that's ok Mr Hindsight?
If I could I would thats why I called it hindsight instead of going into my time machine back to 2007 running up and down Swan St and declaring my premonition Smokey. :thumbsup
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If I could I would thats why I called it hindsight instead of going into my time machine back to 2007 running up and down Swan St and declaring my premonition Smokey. :thumbsup
:lol :thumbsup
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WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
With the way these two teams have gone about it in 2010 this could be a nil-all draw. Neither side has come close to breaking the 100-point barrier (Richmond has been the closest with 78), so fans certainly shouldn't tune in hoping for a shootout.
Call it in the air. Tails it is. Adelaide to win a close one.
PREDICTION
Adelaide by one point.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93650/default.aspx
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Tuckerbag is 100% spot on with his posting on this, players jumping up and down when McMahon kicked the goal- the Melbourne supporters were jumping up and down with excitement as well...they were the only winners. Winning Culture is rubbish when you got no players. We needed the better picks and we needed to Deny Melbourne the better pick. They got Trengove and he is going to be one hell of a player.
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PREDICTION
Adelaide by one point.
Maybe it's the scars of numerous Adelaide spankings, but I can't see us getting close to the Crows.
They're going to open their account and do it in the typical Adelaide vs. Richmond style.
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PREDICTION
Adelaide by one point.
Maybe it's the scars of numerous Adelaide spankings, but I can't see us getting close to the Crows.
They're going to open their account and do it in the typical Adelaide vs. Richmond style.
we have no chance. we will get smacked.
if it was in Melbourne it would be another story.
They will up for this one big time
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I think we should try and load up with the fastest players we have and try to outgun them for pace
It's the Cows major weakness at the moment
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Webberley - Thursfeild - Astbury
O'Reilly - Gourdis - Connors
Deledio - Martin - Hicks
Roberts - Reiwoldt - Nason
Nahas - Griffiths - Rance
Vickery - Cotchin - Foley
Tuck - Gilligan -
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ADELAIDE duo Chris Knights and David Mackay have been ruled out of Sunday afternoon's clash with Richmond at AAMI Stadium.
Forward Brett Burton also sat out the session with a sore knee, but will train with his teammates on Friday.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93697/default.aspx
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ADELAIDE legend Mark Ricciuto says that if the Crows lose to Richmond on Sunday, fans will "burn down AAMI Stadium".
The Mother’s Day game could be a wooden spoon decider, with both Adelaide and Richmond yet to win a game this season.
Ricciuto said this week that while the Crows were close to a win, a loss to Richmond would cause “all hell to break loose in Adelaide”.
Full article here:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-ricciuto-warns-of-mayhem-if-adelaide-loses-to-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1225863013980
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ADELAIDE legend Mark Ricciuto says that if the Crows lose to Richmond on Sunday, fans will "burn down AAMI Stadium".
Hope we win just to see that!
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Tuckerbag is 100% spot on with his posting on this, players jumping up and down when McMahon kicked the goal- the Melbourne supporters were jumping up and down with excitement as well...they were the only winners. Winning Culture is rubbish when you got no players. We needed the better picks and we needed to Deny Melbourne the better pick. They got Trengove and he is going to be one hell of a player.
So now you are condoning cheating, not just for our own gain but also to deny others.
All it would have meant is that we would have had to make a decision on Trengove or Martin and we still may have taken Martin.
I think it's a bit early to call which one is the better choice,they both look like they could be very good players, or are you saying that you already think Martin is no good?
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Tuckerbag is 100% spot on with his posting on this, players jumping up and down when McMahon kicked the goal- the Melbourne supporters were jumping up and down with excitement as well...they were the only winners. Winning Culture is rubbish when you got no players. We needed the better picks and we needed to Deny Melbourne the better pick. They got Trengove and he is going to be one hell of a player.
So now you are condoning cheating, not just for our own gain but also to deny others.
All it would have meant is that we would have had to make a decision on Trengove or Martin and we still may have taken Martin.
I think it's a bit early to call which one is the better choice,they both look like they could be very good players, or are you saying that you already think Martin is no good?
we have a difference of opinion, your way sees us get no where our way would of seen us improve. if you want to see us stay poo for another 3 decades thats up to you but some of us want to see us succeed.
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I'll try to put it another way.
If you believe that we need to cheat to be successful, I understand that. I dont agree with it, but i understand that.
You are dirty on Mcmahon for kicking that goal and the way the team celebrated, probably because up until recently you thought like many, that that cost us a priority pick?
Although I dont agree with it, I can understand it.
What I can't understand is than now you are dirty because it gave Melbourne something. Didn't cost us anything, but gave them something?
If your happy to see your team lose to gain something... well yeah, OK, whatever floats your boat.
But to want them to loose just to stop someone else from getting something, something that you are not even losing, is just skin off your nose to spite your face sort of stuff.
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All I know that when you are competing against someone whether its playing a hand of poker or in this case AFL its about getting an advantage over your opponent and utilizing it, so if that means we prevented Melbourne getting a priortiy pick or any other club so be it. It's not only beating your opponent on the field it's about beating them off it. It's all a business. You don't see other clubs financially helping stricken clubs off with handouts or use of their facilities or players. Dog eat dog world and I feel had Richmond the capacity and foresight to lose the Nth and Melbourne game we would have finished bottom and had pick 1 and a priority pick at 17 or 18 especially with Freo us Melb Nth and WC all playing against one another in the run home. Not disappointed with Martin anything but, but I don't think anyone here would not have been buoyant with the prospect of having Scully or Trengove and another pick at 17 and then at 18 which in effect could be a player who could have been on another teams list and may the difference between us and them getting the ultimate prize. Someone will always get that ultimate prize but the key is to find the way to get their yourself as well as making sure you knock off your opponents b/c everyone wants to knock you off your perch just as when your nowhere near that prize everyone wants to keep you down near the bottom.
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Richo turns up heat on battling Crows
* Zac Milbank
* From: The Advertiser
* May 06, 2010
FORMER Richmond ace Matthew Richardson has turned up the heat on Adelaide, declaring there's more pressure on the Crows to win Sunday's battle for the wooden spoon against the Tigers at AAMI Stadium.
Noting Adelaide's disastrous - and unexpected - 0-6 win-loss record after many pundits tipped the Crows to finish in the top four, Richardson can sense the drought-breaking expectation is building in South Australia.
"I think because it's their (Adelaide's) home crowd and they are 0-6 there is a bit more pressure on them," said Richardson, now commentating with Channel Seven.
"The Tigers are travelling interstate and coming off a bad loss (to Geelong) so Adelaide will be favourites. That puts more pressure on them."
Given the Crows' massive supporter base is eager for an opening victory, Richardson - who knows exactly how passionate Richmond fans are - has forecast an adverse reaction should the Tigers cause an upset.
"I'm assuming that wouldn't go down well in Adelaide," he said.
"From what you see in Melbourne, there's a fair bit of pressure starting to build over there, so I'm sure they want to get a win this week, as Richmond do.
"Obviously the Crows had high expectations going into the season - most people had them in the finals. I certainly had them in my top six, so they're clearly not going as well as we thought they would this year."
Adelaide utility Scott Stevens said the playing group had not mentioned the possibility of sitting 16th on Sunday night should the Crows succumb to the struggling Tigers.
"That's the first time anyone's brought it up, you mentioning it right there," Stevens said in response to a journalist's question.
"We're just focused on getting out there and playing like we did for three quarters against Port because we enjoyed the way it felt when we played like that and that's what we'll focus on."
Richardson - who retired last year after booting 800 goals in 282 AFL games - is a firm believer Richmond can chalk up its opening win despite losing to Geelong by 108 points on Sunday.
"I think they can," Richardson said.
"Last week was disappointing so I think they will be pretty keen to not put in another performance like that.
"The week before that against Fremantle they were very competitive in the first half. If they can string four quarters together, which they haven't quite been able to do this year, they can put in a really good showing."
Adelaide has been listed by bookmaker Tattsbet as $1.19 frontunner to win the twilight clash, with Richmond the $4.60 outsider.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/richo-turns-up-heat-on-battling-crows/story-e6frecoc-1225862922917
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hope we dont lose like Melb did to the Doggies would rather by 10 goals than that
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hope we dont lose like Melb did to the Doggies would rather by 10 goals than that
Thanks for ruining the result for me, I was watching the delayed telecast
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I'm glad Melbourne lost. Bunch of toffee-nosed,tanking cheats, singing our theme song when we gifted them Trengove last year!!!
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I'm glad Melbourne lost. Bunch of toffee-nosed,tanking cheats, singing our theme song when we gifted them Trengove last year!!!
thats not there fault- t hat was our fault and it showed the dumbness of our players when they were celebrating like idiots after the mcmahon goal
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I'm glad Melbourne lost. Bunch of toffee-nosed,tanking cheats, singing our theme song when we gifted them Trengove last year!!!
thats not there fault- t hat was our fault and it showed the dumbness of our players when they were celebrating like idiots after the mcmahon goal
I know, doesn't it make you sick that players showed pride in their team and integrity rather than tanking for better picks? When will they learn? We been at the bottom half of the ladder for so long we should of built a super team by now, times over for excuses, its time to get on with it.
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Points to Nahas and Edwards, goal to White. Good start.
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best quarter of tackling in a quarter ive seen in a while. hunting in numbers. about stuffin time
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It would be nice if the umps pointed the right way when they give a free.
It would also be nice if we could kick straight. 8 scoring shots to 4 and we're behind :banghead.
McGuane two turnovers in the past 5 minutes ::). Hello GC17.
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Vickery getting flogged in the ruck.
Hopless in fact.
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McGuane two turnovers in the past 5 minutes ::). Hello GC17.
Polo can go with him, goal from his turnover.
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Vickery getting flogged in the ruck.
Hopless in fact.
Boy against a man, don't be stupid.
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Vickery getting flogged in the ruck.
Hopless in fact.
Boy against a man, don't be stupid.
He doesnt even contest. Ball goes in D50 and he just watches.
As Rance, is BT just said, this was UGLY.
C Grade amatuer stuff.
Rance will NEVER MAKE IT
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bloody footskills and turnovers :banghead. We should be in front by a couple of goals but gifting possession to the Crows. Thankfully they are missing shots now.
23 - 26
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I can feel the momento swing, we are turning the ball over and seem to have lost direction.
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Jack nice mark :clapping. Goal :gotigers
29 - 26
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I can feel the momento swing, we are turning the ball over and seem to have lost direction.
Yep badly needed goal against the run of play in the 5 last mins.
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Vickery getting flogged in the ruck.
Hopless in fact.
Boy against a man, don't be stupid.
He doesnt even contest. Ball goes in D50 and he just watches.
As Rance, is BT just said, this was UGLY.
C Grade amatuer stuff.
Rance will NEVER MAKE IT
BT is a stuff wit, he spent more time laughing and saying how none of our players would even be invited to the all Australian night let alone get picked, than he should of commentating.
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Clearances this qtr: 7 - 2 in our favour
Whitey finds Tucky 50m out. Goal :gotigers
35 - 26
Blow the siren ;D
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I can feel the momento swing, we are turning the ball over and seem to have lost direction.
Yep badly needed goal against the run of play in the 5 last mins.
Gee the umpiring is disgusting. Great mark and goal to Riewoldt. Nice Tuck goal. WE NEED and MUST keep this pressure up!!!!!!!!!!! ALL GAME BOYS.
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Edwards is doing ok but gee when he turns the ball over like then to Cotchin it reall costs us, goal to the Crows because of it.
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You're always playing against 3 extra men in Adelaide ::)
Contested possies: 56 - 35 in our favour
Was that a mark? Crows goal.
35 - 32
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Deledio long inside 50, off Rance's hands to Nahas crumbs a goal :gotigers
41 - 32
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Nahas adding to his trade value... ;D
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Why didn't polo pick that up??????????????????
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Lids long inside 50 again. Polo snaps but OOTF. Got to make the most of our chances.
41 - 33
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Polak from 50m. OOTF :P. Should have gone to the top of the square. Basics Tigers basics!
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Even though Polak missed that goal I think he has been great today.
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which player was it that cost us that goal? Daniel Jackson directly kicks it to an Adelaide guy which results in a goal.
stuff me that was terrible.
Tackling is where it should be every week we run out on the field.
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Was that the siren? A premature adjudication ;D
Now it's the siren.
Rich 3.3 6.5-41
Adel 3.0 5.3-33
Goals: Nahas 2, Riewoldt, White, Edwards, Tuck
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which player was it that cost us that goal? Daniel Jackson directly kicks it to an Adelaide guy which results in a goal.
eff me that was terrible.
Tackling is where it should be every week we run out on the field.
No it wan't Jackson Unless we are watching different games, Polo and Edwards have been responsible for the Crows last two goals via turnovers.
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How good is it just to see the tigers in a contest....Enjoying every minute of this game.
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which player was it that cost us that goal? Daniel Jackson directly kicks it to an Adelaide guy which results in a goal.
eff me that was terrible.
Tackling is where it should be every week we run out on the field.
No it wan't Jackson Unless we are watching different games, Polo and Edwards have been responsible for the Crows last two goals via turnovers.
It was Rance. Polo has been disappointing. Selfish.
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The Crows are as bad as us which is keeping the scores close but our pressure has been good and we've actually been the better side. The good sign is virtually everyone is contributing. We should be a couple of more goals in front actually in we made the most of our attacks. Up to us now to run out the game. Need to start the 3rd quarter positively and try to get a break on the scoreboard.
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It wasnt Jackson Daniel161 it was Rance.. :banghead
Ge with this work ethic and the fact we are getting smashed in stoppages who knows what we could do.
McGuane been good on Tippett. No Crow player is having a big impact.
Deledio working really really hard off hard back. 3 great runs down the outer wing for inside 50s that resulted in scoring shots.
Riewoldt is on and working hard. His marking back with the flight was superb.
Cotchin has made some mistakes, more than usual, but hes everywhere.
Nahas dangerous
Edwards been really good early
Polak has been superb.
We're doing well whilst getting smashed out of stoppages and playing 2 men down with Jackson and Rance kicking it to Adelaide player more than Richmond...
Tackling best its been all year.
Job is half done.
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which player was it that cost us that goal? Daniel Jackson directly kicks it to an Adelaide guy which results in a goal.
eff me that was terrible.
Tackling is where it should be every week we run out on the field.
No it wan't Jackson Unless we are watching different games, Polo and Edwards have been responsible for the Crows last two goals via turnovers.
It was Rance. Polo has been disappointing. Selfish.
Yep Rance gave the direct turnover straight to their player in the forward line but the other two were as I said. So 3 goals from turnovers, stop that and they score no more. Our backline is great today Webberly has done a few nice things too, very happy with Polak presenting himself around the ground.
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How good is it not having jurassic park (Simmo) in the team.Go Polly.
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Disposals
Moore 15
Edwards 14
Cotchin 12
Collins 11
Deledio 11
Jackson 11
Tuck 10
Martin 9
Total: 180 - 157
Marks 57 - 47
Tackles 43 - 39
Hitouts 17 - 37
Moore, Edwards, Jacko and Cotch in the top 5 on AFL live stats.
http://xml.afl.com.au/swf/live_stats.htm?gameID=10280707
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If the star watches he may see what Hardwick is trying to do !!!
Not saying we are gunna win, just take note.....
Easy to criticise ;)
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How good is it not having jurassic park (Simmo) in the team.Go Polly.
Yep no 30 year olds today. Tuck, Newy, Moore and Polak the only senior players above 23 y.o. They said we've got 8 players who've played less than 20 games.
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Tear down AAMI stadium :pray
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Inside 50s: 19 - 22
Clearances: 10 - 5
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Polak has rarely rucked, only at stopages and then we have had 3rd man up more, Polak is playing around the ground and killing it.
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Lucky. We could have gifted another goal aftef half-time inside 30 secs. Point to Burton.
41 - 34
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Where the stuff has the 5 metre encraochment rule gone?????????????????????????????????? I have seen it time and again this game and we have had nothing rewarded.
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Not good signs early. All Crows so far. Rushed point to Adelaide.
41 - 35
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We ran it up the other end. Edwards point.
42 - 35
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Too easy for the Crwos. Tippett point thankfully.
42 - 36
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Edwards needs to take his time, we really struggled to get that ball out of our defensive 50, now straight back to in and......................... point, phew.
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These stuffing kickouts. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Next on the Hardwick to do list - our kick ins. Sheesh we're in that "can't get it out of the backline" mode again :banghead. 4 chances and stuffed up everyone. Crwos in front.
42 - 43
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Can we get a holding the ball paid to us?
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Looks like we've hit the 3rd qtr wall again. Workrate has dropped off. Another goal to the Cows.
42 - 49
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Disgusting really, we are being smashed around the ground, did we change something??? Maning up is pathetic.
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Why wasnt Nahas at the drop of that ball?????????
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Dimma get tambling off that stuffin idiot. Does he know how to tackle or stand next to his opponent. Mcleod is BOG right now and all tambling does he stand around waiting for the ball to come to him :banghead :banghead
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Adelaide have lifted and we've dropped off.
We finally got a free and paid in our forward line. Polak has to kick this. Poster :banghead
43 - 49
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Another poiint. Blingers should have had a shot there,
44 - 49
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Why the stuff wouldn't you go for that Tambling.
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Polo to Martin to Blingers to nahas who finds Whitey 40m out. Another Point :banghead
45 - 49
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White misses, we can't win games kicking points, very frustrating this game, great 50 metres.. :banghead
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Geez we know how to take the pressure off sides at crucial times. 50m against Nahas.
And then we stuff up another forward foray (Tucky holding the ball). Rushed point to Crows.
45 - 50
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Jack Jack Jack.... how??
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Can we take a mark inside forward 50 this quarter?
Could pressure from Blingers. Moore point :banghead
46 - 50
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ANOTHER MISS, Moore, YOU CANT WIN KICKING POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great call BT you Fag, he has been waiting to call Tiiiiiiiiiiipppppppeeeeetttttttt all day, suck it BT he missed.
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Lucky Tippett missed. We don't deserve to win if we can't kick basic goals :banghead
46 - 51
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Saved by the bell.
Rich 3.3 6.5 6.10-46
Adel 3.0 5.3 7.9-51
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We are still in this game...Adelaide will pay dearly for not applying scoreboard pressure.
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Very lucky in the first 12 minutes not to be 4 goals down as we were asleep. Fought back well in the second half of that quarter but couldn't kick straight to save ourselves :banghead.
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Really good have used that goal from Moore...
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Disposals:
Edwards 20
Deledio 19
Moore 18
Martin 16
Jackson 16
Cotchin 15
McGuane 15
Tuck 15
Crows have had more possessions now. 110 - 76 that quarter.
Inside 50s 3rd qtr: 7 - 12
Tackles 62 - 51 ...
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We are always half asleep at the start of quarters. Point to Crows.
46 - 52
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Martin long and jack out the back goals :gotigers
52 - 52
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did we say Dusty is a gun :bow.
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I have had enough of BT, after that goal he is saying hands in the back, ffs.
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Do we know how to win ?
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Adelaide goal due to a turnover :banghead. Polo to Whitey who was nailed.
52 - 58
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Bad bad bad bad bad WHITE, bad turnover, should have dished it off. We always second guess, just get it off. Crows one up.
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Why not 50m to rance after the Crow kicked it away? ::)
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Moore held by the leg - no free again ::)
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game over
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Another turnover....... another goal, same old story time and time again.
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Another turnover goal to Adelaide :scream. Bligners at fault.
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rance 20 metre kick Tambling drops the ball.
2 of the biggest hacks playing today right there for all to see
we are a joke if we continue with these 2 idiots
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Yeah we look spent, basic errors on the way.
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3 goals needed.
52 - 66
15 mins gone.
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Another basic turnvoer :scream
Game over
52 - 72
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Newman is a joke
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Another turnover from a kick-in ::)
6.10 to 1.5 after half-time :P
This could blow out to 7 or 8 goals. We've stopped.
Polo in trouble with the MRP?
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I must say this is most dissappointed I have been this season. It's over now and we should have won, we missed easy goals and turned the ball over again and again and again. I dont care about 50 -100+ point drubbings, these are the games I care about. They have really let me down today!!
Well done Polo you stupid effing fool and now they have a goal. FFS Polo go away you are nothing but a bad influence on the club!!!!!!!!!! Pitty you cant go that hard at the footy :banghead :banghead
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we cant afford quarters where we dont kick a goal....
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ABC commentators are being very kind. Saying Hardwick has a side with plenty to work with in years to come and that our inexperience is costing us today.
Stating the obvious but this is a pee poor last quarter. Scores level 5 mins into the last and now we're over 8 goals down. Yep we're young and inexperienced but where was the ticker to at least fight out a respectable loss. Now the margin is no different to the first 6 rounds. We simply can't play more than two quarters.
LOL we wait until deep in the last to kick-out to the open fat side and surprise surprise we get it outside our defensive 50.
ABC bagging McGuane's attitude.
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Siren puts us out of our misery. Level to 50 point loss in 25 minutes :scream
Rich 3.3 6.5 6.10 7.12-54
Adel 3.0 5.3 7.9 15.14-104
Goals: Riewoldt 2, Nahas 2, Edwards, Tuck, White
Don't you hate the Crows theme song :chuck
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did we say Dusty is a gun :bow.
needs to work on his kicking a tad imho. 8)
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did we say Dusty is a gun :bow.
needs to work on his kicking a tad imho. 8)
Very hard to hit targets when most of the team stops running. It's also probably a getting use to the tempo thing too. We know from the draft camp he can kick.
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After the painfull experience of watching that rubbish.
The coach we have appointed is CLEARLY not up to the task.
Kick ins are a disgrace
And the game plan, well there isnt one but to just kick it to a team mate who is under the pump.
DISGRACEFUL
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After the painfull experience of watching that rubbish.
The coach we have appointed is CLEARLY not up to the task.
Kick ins are a disgrace
And the game plan, well there isnt one but to just kick it to a team mate who is under the pump.
DISGRACEFUL
Game plan was ok for 3 quarters. We had our chances but we have 6 or 7 players who are making key mistakes at key times. Thats all!
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drop Reiwoldt for a few games... HE IS CRAPOLA
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drop Reiwoldt for a few games... HE IS CRAPOLA
Rewoldt is a serious problem
when players see your KPF walking when the ball is coming back at them l would never let him wear a Richmond baby bib let alone the jumper his PATHETIC :banghead
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That was the worst Adelaide side l can remember
To get beaten by 50 points in one quarter is disgraceful :banghead when scores were level & the team your playing is pathetic
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After the painfull experience of watching that rubbish.
The coach we have appointed is CLEARLY not up to the task.
Kick ins are a disgrace
And the game plan, well there isnt one but to just kick it to a team mate who is under the pump.
DISGRACEFUL
Game plan was ok for 3 quarters. We had our chances but we have 6 or 7 players who are making key mistakes at key times. Thats all!
Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
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After the painfull experience of watching that rubbish.
The coach we have appointed is CLEARLY not up to the task.
Kick ins are a disgrace
And the game plan, well there isnt one but to just kick it to a team mate who is under the pump.
DISGRACEFUL
Agree with you re the kick in's, I really can't understand the thought process there, we have been doing it week after week and it hasn't changed. Always going to the flanks to two on ones????? Maybe he should tell the kicker to go straight up the guts and surround the kick in area with Martin, Cotchin, Edwards, Nahas, etc and instructing players like Vickery and Polak, Tuck etc to fly for it. Something has to change we are not clearing that ball out past the centre. We are also not skilled enough to chip the ball out as we turn it over too much.
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
Have you got inside work Jack or is it an assumption from where you sit? ::)
Surely mate. ::)
This aint verbatim but you said pre season we'll surprise a few teams.
By round 2 we were the worst training team in the AFL. ::)
These are your observations champ.
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
If they don't have a clue Jack and you say that like you have the inside info then why at the start of the pre-season and leading into the game proper were all the players that were interviewed saying how much they can't wait to use the new game plan as it was easier than Wallaces and they were training with it every session and getting it together.
I can't understand why you make these comments, is it from what you see because it's not or can't be coming from the players.
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my mothers, brothers, cousins, girlfriends, uncles tobacconist told me stuff ;) ;) ;) i'm in the know ;)
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
Have you got inside work Jack or is it an assumption from where you sit? ::)
Surely mate. ::)
This aint verbatim but you said pre season we'll surprise a few teams.
By round 2 we were the worst training team in the AFL. ::)
These are your observations champ.
mate, only tell you what I was tiold.
They faniced themselves in Round 2 and they said they werent as bad as there pre season form.
MY OPINION IS, THEY HAVE NO IDEA !
MY OPINION is that Hardwick has no idea.
What team would kick the ball in to the opposition Ruckman ? 2 weeks in a row :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Who had us finishing 7th pre-Christmas :rollin.
Us finishing last this year should not have been a surprise to anyone. When you replace so many experienced players over one summer with kids in a list that finished 15th the previous year and was the worst side going around (Dees were tanking) it was a no-brainer prediction.
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Who had us finishing 7th pre-Christmas :rollin.
Us finishing last this year should not have been a surprise to anyone. When you replace so many experienced players over one summer with kids in a list that finished 15th the previous year and was the worst side going around (Dees were tanking) it was a no-brainer prediction.
Thank you MT. :thumbsup :lol :rollin :lol
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
If they don't have a clue Jack and you say that like you have the inside info then why at the start of the pre-season and leading into the game proper were all the players that were interviewed saying how much they can't wait to use the new game plan as it was easier than Wallaces and they were training with it every session and getting it together.
I can't understand why you make these comments, is it from what you see because it's not or can't be coming from the players.
Its pretty obvious isnt it? :rollin
the players have banged on about how good it is to have a simple set game plan they can follow all preseason, these comments were also a direct dig at the former coach. The minute any of them murmur something negative I will demand they be sacked on the spot otherwise kiss my memberships and support goodbye for good, players have held sway for far too long at this club
What the players didnt bank on was the current coach exposing players purposely to see whether they have the goods, no hiding under dimma, this i can tell u as fact :thumbsup so when certain posters are banging on about how the current coach cant make changes that an under 10's volunteer coach could see, do u seriously think a former experienced afl assistant coach cant see these potential changes? lmao @ idiots trying to tell us that the coach is clueless and cant make basic moves :lol i mean really.... the coach has his reasons for letting players get slaughtered and its pretty obvious - sink or swim, no shortcuts! its called honest footy
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Amazing that Jokestar miraculously went missing while we were competitive for 3 quarters. :whistle :whistle
stuffing parasite.
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Explain to me the game plan ????????
Adelaide were terrible for the first 3 quarters
The Crows were but onto the game plan or lack of one as far as I can understand it....
Hardwick has come in stating he first wants to work on our defensive side of the game - pressure, tackling, etc. At the moment we can only sustain a credible standard for two quarters even against the mediocre and crap sides. Against top sides no chance.
Offensive strategy hasn't been looked at. At the moment it's the bare basics. Yep long kicking to contests when a free option isn't available. Up to 3/4 time today we had 60 more kicks than handballs. A massive shift from Wallace and late-Frawley's eras.
To me Dimma is the new wave of senior coaches who were taught by lines (defence, mid/ruck and forwards) and they structure their learning phases for the playing squad the same way. I'd doubt he'll start on anything more than basic offence strategy until next preseason at the earliest. In the meantime it's all about getting games into the kids and seeing who has what it takes and who doesn't.
Can tell you the playing group havent a clue
If they don't have a clue Jack and you say that like you have the inside info then why at the start of the pre-season and leading into the game proper were all the players that were interviewed saying how much they can't wait to use the new game plan as it was easier than Wallaces and they were training with it every session and getting it together.
I can't understand why you make these comments, is it from what you see because it's not or can't be coming from the players.
Its pretty obvious isnt it? :rollin
the players have banged on about how good it is to have a simple set game plan they can follow all preseason, these comments were also a direct dig at the former coach. The minute any of them murmur something negative I will demand they be sacked on the spot otherwise kiss my memberships and support goodbye for good, players have held sway for far too long at this club
What the players didnt bank on was the current coach exposing players purposely to see whether they have the goods, no hiding under dimma, this i can tell u as fact :thumbsup so when certain posters are banging on about how the current coach cant make changes that an under 10's volunteer coach could see, do u seriously think a former experienced afl assistant coach cant see these potential changes? lmao @ idiots trying to tell us that the coach is clueless and cant make basic moves :lol i mean really.... the coach has his reasons for letting players get slaughtered and its pretty obvious - sink or swim, no shortcuts! its called honest footy
:thumbsup
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kicking for goal in the 3rd was shocking
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Stats - Last 20 mins
Adel Rich
Disposals 64 29
Contested 20 7
Inside 50s 12 3
Score 6.4 0.2