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Title: winless season coming up?
Post by: tony_montana on May 02, 2010, 05:06:03 PM
I honestly think we'll go winless this season. Every year we've seen some shocking sides like melbourne, carlton, freo, us, hawks but even then you knew they would pinch 3 or 4. Footy now, is more about well drilled units executing plans, strategies, pattern running yada yada, we are so far off in this regard that its going to make it very hard to win a game as every other side seems miles ahead of us. (if anyone thinks adelaide are as bad as us they are kidding themselves). I know its not about wins atm, always knew we'd be bottom this year and next but i dont think anyone wants to see a winless season. i hope i get shutdown as early as next week, but i'm genuinely concerned
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: bushranger on May 02, 2010, 05:10:12 PM
I don't think we will win a game this year also.
And I don't think the Crows will lay down for us next week, but I do see this as the best chance we will have so far at winning.
I knew the Cats would come out and hit us real bad.
Now watch them get stronger.
We just have to be there for our boys and give them the chances to get things right.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: mat073 on May 02, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
I still think we will win a game.....It will just be deep deep into the season.

Funny thing is we are not even at the "honourable loss" stage of our development yet.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Smokey on May 02, 2010, 05:24:33 PM
Given the correct alignment of our planets, we could actually win any of our next 4 games.  Not saying we will, but it's a real possibility after the first 6 weeks of hoping beyond hope.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: bushranger on May 02, 2010, 05:38:30 PM
Don't let Jackstar know this.
He wants us to lose by the way you read his posts.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: bojangles17 on May 02, 2010, 05:41:59 PM
i think the next few weeks will tell the story, i think the next 4 have only won a few games between them so not exactly flag contenders, Id reserve judgement for a bit
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: bushranger on May 02, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
If we have a show it will be against Adelaide, but it is at their home so this makes it harder to win.
But we have got the Hawks the following weekend, so this could be the one for us in the next 4 weeks.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: eliminator on May 02, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
Hardwick needs to flog them on the training track this week. Need to play more than one quarter of good football to win a game. Agree have had no honourable losses. We are light years away from Adelaide. Unless there is a massive change in mindset we will be flogged by them
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 02, 2010, 07:17:57 PM
If we don't win one of our next 3 which seem winnable based on ladder position we may win late in the season against a team who would be playing for nothing in lower table mediocrity. Who knows in 2001 Freo surprised Hawthorn at the Dome in rd 18 to score their first win but if we are relying on teams in mediocrity with their season shot to come up for a win well there is not much dignity in that. Would like to see some sort of four quarter effort soon. :help
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 02, 2010, 07:22:59 PM
Hardwick needs to flog them on the training track this week. Need to play more than one quarter of good football to win a game. Agree have had no honourable losses. We are light years away from Adelaide. Unless there is a massive change in mindset we will be flogged by them

this feel good soft co.ck approach didnt work with Spud or Wallace so Hardwick i agree needs to flog them big time this week and if they dont like it then send them straight to Coburg.

They deserve to be smacked in every department. Youth or not there is no excuse for not chasing or tackling. no excuse!!
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Tigermonk on May 02, 2010, 07:45:09 PM
Yes l agree flog them on the training track
Too many joggers in our side & too many half hearted attacks on the contests
Its time to knuckle down. punish them & when they finished school them all about long attacking football.
Make the Captain stand at the front of the class & learn to be a leader, teach them how to communicate on the field
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: WA Tiger on May 02, 2010, 07:49:02 PM
Scary, very scary possibility. I really hope we do win one game at least, but I am not sure how we are going to.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 02, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
Don't let Jackstar know this.
He wants us to lose by the way you read his posts.

thats bullsiht, i sat with jackstar at the game today and he wants nothing more than to see richmond win and be successful

but he as i witnessed today a team with no game plan, no urgency no desire and no pride

we will not win a game this yr unless attitudes and game plans change.

we r not just weak in body  but weak in mind, its time hardwick got as tough as his reputation because all i see in hardwick atm is a class one soft thing
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Mr Magic on May 02, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
thats bullpoo, i sat with jackstar at the game today and he wants nothing more than to see richmond win and be successful

but he as i witnessed today a team with no game plan, no urgency no desire and no pride

You poor bastard. I guess you were expecting finals this year?
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 02, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
thats bullpoo, i sat with jackstar at the game today and he wants nothing more than to see richmond win and be successful

but he as i witnessed today a team with no game plan, no urgency no desire and no pride

You poor bastard. I guess you were expecting finals this year?

no i dont expect finals u moron, dont even expect us to get close u malaka.

what i expect are 22 players having a real dip weak in weak out

sure nason looks good when he has the ball, but he is weak and gutless when he does not have it

vickery mopes around the ground with no urgency and is gultless also

this is not just these two but many of our players wont go in hard when its their time to go in, they just corale and put no presssure on

i know where we are as a club but we have a team full of players that do not go in 100% at every contest

geelong do this even when they are 80 pts up , keep going in hard , they dont corale , they go in hard and put presure on the ball carrier

its all about attitude

we have none

i dont give a stuff about the score board this yr, just want to see a change in attitude and culture but i see nothing
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Gigantor on May 02, 2010, 08:16:53 PM
me i dont know where the hell we are at...Today i saw a team thats so way off the pace it aint funny...However i have no choice other than to turn up week in week out and support the team I have all my life.....I wont dismiss Damien .he's new in the job, and will ,like our team ,make mistakes ....I just hope we can squueze a win out somewhere
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: jackstar is back again on May 02, 2010, 08:50:47 PM
me i dont know where the hell we are at...Today i saw a team thats so way off the pace it aint funny...However i have no choice other than to turn up week in week out and support the team I have all my life.....I wont dismiss Damien .he's new in the job, and will ,like our team ,make mistakes ....I just hope we can squueze a win out somewhere

I agree, I have no idea where we are at.
Either does the coach unfortunately.
The job might be too big for a young inexperienced coach.
The lack of effort today was so bad.
Players just jogged after the opposition, hardly good enough
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Gigantor on May 02, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
even if you lack in game plan understanding,skills,experience,etc...you can still man up,chase, contest..self respect should ensure that at least
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 02, 2010, 10:50:48 PM
We always knew with a young and inexperienced side we were going to show some good glimpses for the future and come up with some awful performances. I just want to see a four quarter effort with alot of 1 percenters chasing and tackling.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: jackstar is back again on May 02, 2010, 10:58:55 PM
We always knew with a young and inexperienced side we were going to show some good glimpses for the future and come up with some awful performances. I just want to see a four quarter effort with alot of 1 percenters chasing and tackling.

No one percenters
No Chasing
No Blocking
No Shepherds
No talking( what about when McGaune got ran down from behind) :banghead
Hardwick said at the start of the year what will we see is predictablity
There isnt any predictablity, other than being predictality BAD !
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 02, 2010, 11:12:15 PM
We are right to fault some of the more senior players in their week in week out efforts.
Should show more leadership. RIght now it should be them that show us the way.
It aint Hardwick's fault and quoting him on what he said 6 months ago won't ridicule him.
He will turn the list over and whilst he can't get rid of players now he will over the next 18 months.
You and I both know we are at the infancy stage of this redevelopment which in hindsight Hardwicks predecessor should have start at the infancy of his tenure.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Ox on May 03, 2010, 12:51:58 AM
today i think it was mcguane? who got pinned-there were 3 of our players running with him and none borhered to let him know he was hot as stuff
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: eliminator on May 03, 2010, 07:02:46 AM
Totally agree with Tuckerbag. Senior players need to stand up. Senior players can't hide behind Richo anymore. Agree the rebuilding should have started under Wallace at the start of his tenure. The fact it was that not done so is grossly negligent by the club
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Smokey on May 03, 2010, 09:19:49 AM
today i think it was mcguane? who got pinned-there were 3 of our players running with him and none borhered to let him know he was hot as eff

Thats the exact reason 3 of them got rubbed out for a week in the Connors fiasco.  No-one had Dan's back that night and no-one had McGuane's yesterday.  It's that selfishness and lack of thought that needs to be turned into an instinctive positive action before we can possibly hope to match it with the good sides.  We're not a 'team' yet and that one incident highlighted it so painfully.  And ironic that it happened to McGuane - I wonder if that irony sunk the lesson home to him?
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: RollsRoyce on May 03, 2010, 09:25:21 AM
Yeah, somebody should've told McGuane that he was HOT. But at the same time, you could sense that he was going to get nailed the second he gathered the ball. He was just waltzing around with no awareness, as if he was skipping la-de-da through a grassy meadow.
Title: Re: winless season coming up?
Post by: Ox on May 03, 2010, 05:38:37 PM
Yeah, somebody should've told McGuane that he was HOT. But at the same time, you could sense that he was going to get nailed the second he gathered the ball. He was just waltzing around with no awareness, as if he was skipping la-de-da through a grassy meadow.


which means they're all shitmen.