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Title: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2010, 02:29:03 AM
Up to eight Richmond players will be delisted by the club as early as next week, adding to the 13 who departed last year.

Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/no-farewell-game-for-jordan-mcmahon/story-e6frf9jf-1225909627449)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2010, 03:06:54 AM
If that includes rookies then that is done pretty easily

Cousins
Simmonds
McMahon
Polo
Thomson
Polak*
Roberts*
Gilligan* or Nahas or White or Hislop
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: yellowandback on August 25, 2010, 06:13:26 AM
Not sure why they would delist a player who has played most games in the seniors except for injury but .....
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 25, 2010, 06:47:56 AM
If that includes rookies then that is done pretty easily

Cousins
Simmonds
McMahon
Polo
Thomson
Polak*
Roberts*
Gilligan* or Nahas or White or Hislop

No way in the world I can see White being delisted
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: eliminator on August 25, 2010, 07:06:12 AM
White and Nahas will probably survive but I could be wrong
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Smokey on August 25, 2010, 07:11:04 AM

No way in the world I can see White being delisted


Agree.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2010, 07:31:02 AM
White has been pretty good this year.  Cock Robin could be in trouble, he is almost there but just not enough tricks in his bag, if he was a bit more deadly around the goals when he got his mitts on it, he would be worth keeping for sure, otherwise he is just blocking a spot for a bigger mid or a better crumber imho.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Smokey on August 25, 2010, 07:34:42 AM
White has been pretty good this year.  Cock Robin could be in trouble, he is almost there but just not enough tricks in his bag, if he was a bit more deadly around the goals when he got his mitts on it, he would be worth keeping for sure, otherwise he is just blocking a spot for a bigger mid or a better crumber imho.

Yep, Nason, King and Hicks have made AFL life much more uncertain for Nahas.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2010, 07:57:49 AM
Yeah agree with that too, Kingy has really turned it around, he is playing good football, I never thought he would make it to be honest.  Hicks, diamond in the rough, he is gonna be a goodun I reckon, he has some flair about him.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 25, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Not enough IMHO. Again a coach has been sucked in by 3 or 4 who arent up to it! And its worse that its up to 8 so it could be 5 lol ... thats a joke!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2010, 11:32:34 AM
If that includes rookies then that is done pretty easily

Cousins
Simmonds
McMahon
Polo
Thomson
Polak*
Roberts*
Gilligan* or Nahas or White or Hislop

No way in the world I can see White being delisted
I can't either, just throwing around some names of players on the fringe
Given the recent contract signings, there isn't much left to cut after those names listed above
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 25, 2010, 11:41:18 AM
10 minimum should have been the result
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 25, 2010, 11:48:32 AM
Nahas and Hislop should round out the 10 delistings.

They are completely hopeless and i just hope its not true what i heard here that TH has been resigned. Can anyone confirm that?

Rance well maybe ill give him another year only one more.

Tambling as a trade will make it 11 and a nice pick inside 30 to boot.

White i would keep as a back up if Foley doesnt come good.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 25, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
i just hope its not true what i heard here that TH has been resigned. Can anyone confirm that?

i read it on Y&B from some serial eye winkers
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on August 25, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
i just hope its not true what i heard here that TH has been resigned. Can anyone confirm that?

i read it on Y&B from some serial eye winkers

They have been winking more than ever since a few people got the arse from the site.  ;)

Agree with daniel on Hislop. Don't really rate him at all to be honest...has done SFA in his time here. If he is to stay then it's time to perform, no more excuses.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Stripes on August 25, 2010, 12:50:02 PM
Besides the first few obvious delistings its is starting to get harder which I feel is a good sign.

List management and contracts are becoming a more difficult task.

Does anyone have a list of contracts - I would love to know who is out of contract first before I start throwing around names.

Stripes
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Muscles on August 25, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
From the contracts thread;

Coming out of contract: Connors, Cousins, Edwards, King, Graham, Hislop, McMahon, Moore, Polo, Post, Tambling, Thomson, Tuck, Vickery, White
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Fishfinger on August 25, 2010, 01:13:22 PM
From the contracts thread;

Coming out of contract: Connors, Cousins, Edwards, King, Graham, Hislop, McMahon, Moore, Polo, Post, Tambling, Thomson, Tuck, Vickery, White
Add Simmonds as he has to come off the playing list.

Remove Tambling and Tuck who recently got new contracts.
Vickery may have done a 3 year deal when drafted which would take him to 2011.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mat073 on August 25, 2010, 01:25:29 PM
I just hope our 2009 "Top up" recruits Thomson and Hislop are shown the door.

Not too disappointed to see the back of Polo.

I would love to see the end of Luke Mcguane but I realise he is still under contract.

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Stripes on August 25, 2010, 01:36:24 PM
From the contracts thread;

Coming out of contract: Connors, Cousins, Edwards, King, Graham, Hislop, McMahon, Moore, Polo, Post, Tambling, Thomson, Tuck, Vickery, White

Thankyou muscles.

Well going on that I would suggest -

Simonds (ret.)
Cousins (ret.)
McMahon (delisted)
Polo (delisted)
Thomson (delisted)
Hislop (delisted) - out until/if I hear he is contracted
Nahas (delisted)
----------------
Polak (delisted) - elevated rookie
----------------
Gilligan (delisted) - rookie
Roberts (delisted) - rookie

This creates 6 spots on the main list and 3 places open on the rookie list. Some of those 6 may be taken by elevated rookies which could include any of Browne, Gourdis and/or Hicks.

Stripes
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 25, 2010, 04:16:24 PM
Browne is already on the main list
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2010, 05:05:47 PM
FIshfinger....fish finger...FISHfinger  ...
Smells fishy but I sense familiarity, you a hall monitor somewhere or school prefect or I dunno part of a secret police force, ultra nationalist geurrilla group, perhaps a sycophantic right hand man like smithers or something?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on August 26, 2010, 01:47:01 AM
10 minimum should have been the result
Agree it should be more like 10 but that's hard to do in a compromised draft when we didn't tank for an extra early pick.

We have roughly ND picks 6, 29, 46, 63, 80, ..... plus pick 2? in the PSD. Unless we trade for more picks it's hard to see us having any more than 5 ND picks plus the PSD pick. That's only 6 changes to our senior list.

My outs are the same as everyone else's:

Cuz (ret.)
Simmo (ret.)
Jordie
Polo
Thomson
Hislop ....... although apparently he's staying  :scream

Polak#
Roberts#
Gilligan#

Nahas is contracted so we're stuck with him unless he's traded for a 3 magic beans or paid out.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 26, 2010, 12:56:06 PM
I think there is another reason we probably wont cut much deeper this year and that is the fact that we have a large number of players comming out the year after and we need to get games into these guys to see if they are part of our future

From the contract thread

2011: Astbury, Browne, Collins, Dea, Farmer, Grimes, Griffiths, Jackson, Martin, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Riewoldt, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

How many of these guys can we be sure of being in our Next Preimership ? We need to play them to make a judgement and hence we dont need big changes this next year. There is 18 on that list of which only 2 I can be sure of. Just so happens those two were just given contract extentions. It would be brave call on any of the others.

One thing that will make 2011 very interesting is that so many of the 22 each week playing for a new contract.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Muscles on August 26, 2010, 12:59:09 PM
Has anyone heard any whispers that Gus has been re-signed yet?  The Suns must be on the lookout for rucks ....
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 26, 2010, 03:34:03 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Josh Fraser goes to the Suns
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on August 26, 2010, 11:51:20 PM
Has anyone heard any whispers that Gus has been re-signed yet?  The Suns must be on the lookout for rucks ....
Hasn't the Club claimed it has signed up everyone we want to keep and if the Suns grab anyone it'll be a player we weren't planning to hold onto anyway?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on August 27, 2010, 08:24:07 PM
From the contracts thread;

Coming out of contract: Connors, Cousins, Edwards, King, Graham, Hislop, McMahon, Moore, Polo, Post, Tambling, Thomson, Tuck, Vickery, White

This is what "I" would do!

Sign - Connors (1 year), Graham (1 year), Moore (1 year), Post (2 years), Tambling (1 year), Vickery (2 years), White (1 year)

Delist - Hislop, McMahon, Thomson

Trade - Edwards, King, Polo, Tuck.

Doesn't Tuck have a contract?

Hislop, McMahon, Thomson MUST be the first three to be delisted!

 :pray
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 27, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
Post should only get 1 year IMHO. He needs a kick up the backside- needs to work out if he wants to play professional footy or do something else in his life!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on August 27, 2010, 08:38:32 PM
Post should only get 1 year IMHO. He needs a kick up the backside- needs to work out if he wants to play professional footy or do something else in his life!

Yep! Agree with that!

Polak, Simmonds, Cousins - Retired.

Roberts?

I think a club would take Polo and Edwards for a third or fourth round pick.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 27, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
A third or fourth round pick for Edwards? Schiss das bett.
Sorry Infamy but maybe Popelord and Daniel are correct and all drug users should be locked up.
LMFAO.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 27, 2010, 10:15:48 PM
A third or fourth round pick for Edwards? Schiss das bett.
Sorry Infamy but maybe Popelord and Daniel are correct and all drug users should be locked up.
LMFAO.

If you're going to come on here get your facts straight if your going to run your mouth. I never said that.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on August 27, 2010, 10:46:31 PM
A third or fourth round pick for Edwards? Schiss das bett.
Sorry Infamy but maybe Popelord and Daniel are correct and all drug users should be locked up.
LMFAO.

If you're going to come on here get your facts straight if your going to run your mouth. I never said that.

Pretty sure fatty Greggles was talking about Torch saying "I think a club would take Polo and Edwards for a third or fourth round pick"
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: big tone on August 27, 2010, 10:53:17 PM
Realisticly with the retirees of (Cuz, Simmo, Polak) and the obvious delisting of Jordie, that only leaves 4 other players to be delisted. Not to many hard decissions need to be made this year in my opinion.
Other outs IMO- Roberts, Thompson, Hislop and ??? Nahas or Polo

I would leave both Nahas and Polo for one last season just to see if they can turn it around or just simply for depth for a year.
What i would do is trade Tambling and one or even both of Thursfield or Moore giving us another couple of picks in the draft. They have all been ok in stages but time to make a statement- if you don't proform consistantly we will move you on either by trade or being delisted.
And its seems we have drafted plenty of KP players over the last couple of years to replace/upgrade Will and Kelvin. (Post, Griffiths, Astbury, Dea, Gourdis, Grimes and Jack of course)
As for Richie...... Don't get me started.....


Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Willy on August 27, 2010, 10:59:45 PM
Ken oath they'd take Edwards for a third rounder! But that would be an eff up of McMahon proportions on our behalf. Edwards is a gun and just starting to deliver on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on August 27, 2010, 11:29:41 PM
LOL true.  ;D

Edwards has been bloody good this year
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 27, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
A third or fourth round pick for Edwards? Schiss das bett.
Sorry Infamy but maybe Popelord and Daniel are correct and all drug users should be locked up.
LMFAO.

If you're going to come on here get your facts straight if your going to run your mouth. I never said that.

Pretty sure fatty Greggles was talking about Torch saying "I think a club would take Polo and Edwards for a third or fourth round pick"

He suggested I said I want drug users locked up. Have an opinion and make comments, but get it right.
I never said that, nor mentioned punishment to drug users in any context.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on August 27, 2010, 11:33:43 PM
A third or fourth round pick for Edwards? Schiss das bett.
Sorry Infamy but maybe Popelord and Daniel are correct and all drug users should be locked up.
LMFAO.

If you're going to come on here get your facts straight if your going to run your mouth. I never said that.

Pretty sure fatty Greggles was talking about Torch saying "I think a club would take Polo and Edwards for a third or fourth round pick"

He suggested I said I want drug users locked up. Have an opinion and make comments, but get it right.
I never said that, nor mentioned punishment to drug users in any context.

Ah, thought you were referring to the Edwards bit.

Don't worry about Gerky, he's a maggot. ;)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 28, 2010, 11:10:23 AM
I am a maggot.
Cool your jets Popey, just having a laugh mate.
I love to run my mouth, especially around Caro's breasts.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Chuck17 on August 28, 2010, 11:23:04 AM
LMFAO GG u sick puppy
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: 1965 on August 28, 2010, 01:20:25 PM
I am a maggot.
Cool your jets Popey, just having a laugh mate.
I love to run my mouth, especially around Caro's breasts.

Mods, how long do we have to put up with this idiot?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 28, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
Oh sit down whats your problem?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on August 28, 2010, 01:26:38 PM
I am a maggot.
Cool your jets Popey, just having a laugh mate.
I love to run my mouth, especially around Caro's breasts.

Mods, how long do we have to put up with this idiot?

What happened to you man, WAT hacked into your account?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 28, 2010, 01:28:44 PM
Mods, how long do we have to put up with this idiot?

This.

Haha.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 28, 2010, 01:34:01 PM
WAT? Ya mad badger.  You gone all ultra orthodox moonie on us?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 28, 2010, 01:37:40 PM
I am a maggot.
Cool your jets Popey, just having a laugh mate.
I love to run my mouth, especially around Caro's breasts.

Lol fair enough  :cheers
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Willy on August 28, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
I love this joint already!
Its got everything - cursing, arguments, Carro's Knockers and even some football discussion...
So much more exciting than Y&B.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on August 28, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
Can the Mods please do something about this undesirable Willy fellow? I think he is a spy.
kiddin Willy.  There is actually a swear filter mate.  It is a respectable forum, it is just that we are able to be ourselves a bit more  ;D
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: The Big Richo on August 28, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
Can the Mods please do something about this undesirable Willy fellow? I think he is a spy.
kiddin Willy.  There is actually a swear filter mate.  It is a respectable forum, it is just that we are able to be ourselves a bit more  ;D

I've seen who you all really are and it is not to be encouraged.  :help

Back to topic, I agree we are not cutting deep enough this year based on the reports. I also have heard a faint whisper that McMahon is GC bound which would be great; give us compo for someone we don't want and protect the rest of the list.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 29, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
Cousins - Retired - will be missed made a contribution
Simmonds - Retired - unsighted all year although he went out early
Polak - Retired - unsighted all year - retired this week

McMahon - unsighted all year
Polo - unsighted all year
Thomson - unsighted all year
Roberts - unsighted all year
Nahas - unsighted for most of the year and struggled when he was here
Gilligan - unsighted all year

Hislop - may survive if the footy people decide 10 are to many changes!


So this list shows that losing these players will make no difference at all! Most have been unsighted all year (cousins excluded).
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Danog on August 29, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
It'll make a difference.  The kids that come in will be pushing for selection.  Competition is good. :)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 29, 2010, 07:20:18 PM
Cousins - Retired - will be missed made a contribution
Simmonds - Retired - unsighted all year although he went out early
Polak - Retired - unsighted all year - retired this week

McMahon - unsighted all year
Polo - unsighted all year
Thomson - unsighted all year
Roberts - unsighted all year
Nahas - unsighted for most of the year and struggled when he was here
Gilligan - unsighted all year

Hislop - may survive if the footy people decide 10 are to many changes!


So this list shows that losing these players will make no difference at all! Most have been unsighted all year.

Good post Ramps.

Really interesting this. Gilligan, Polak and Roberts aren't real delistings seeing as they were rookies.

Cousins - Gourdis
Simmonds - O'Rielly

Polak - Rookie
Roberts - Rookie

Has Gillargan missed his chance?

I'd delist

McMahon
Thompson
Polo
Hislop

Nahas I don't rate but his 2nd half was pretty good today, his 1st half was shocking. He should be left up forward not in midfield.

Will that be enough?


Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 29, 2010, 08:12:58 PM
Cousins - Gourdis
Simmonds - O'Rielly
I don't know if you mean these two will be taking their spots on the senior list
I certainly hope we keep both on the rookie list and then choose them as our nominated rookies on the senior list for next year so they don't need to be elevated to play
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 29, 2010, 08:21:08 PM
Hardwicks well and truly on the right track. If the changes go as we expect then it gives us another chance to bring in some players who will add to our club rather than having 8 or 9 blokes most of whom havent done alot this year. It should only mean one thing- We improve further in 2011.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tdy on August 29, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
We are still in a massive rebuilding phase.  You don't build talent you weed out those without it.

I would think if they are gonna drop 8 this week its the obvious ones and then they will try and trade 3 or 4 and if they can't they will drop them.

I predict 10-12 changes this year, including rookies, no sentiment.

There is no point keeping anyone on the list who wont make it.


Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Stripes on August 29, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
We are still in a massive rebuilding phase.  You don't build talent you weed out those without it.

Great line and very true. Ten changes including rookies sounds about right to me. Given what Hardwick said in his post match interview players such as Gourdis or Morton aren't going anywhere either.

The only players, besides the 3 retirements, that seem to be expendable and not 'developing' or have stepped up are McMahon, Polo, Thompson and Hislop from the prime list and Roberts and Gilligan from the rookie list. Nahas could also be moved on. That's 6(7) spots on the main list and 3 on the rookie.

Stripes
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on August 29, 2010, 09:52:14 PM
LET THE CLEAN OUT BEGIN!

Hardwick, Hislop can not kick the football and must be delisted! Do not go soft and keep Hislop! Jake King who YOU sent back to Coburg has now played that forward-tackling role you had Hislop playing in the beginning!

King is A LOT better then Hislop!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 29, 2010, 10:04:50 PM
Cousins - Gourdis
Simmonds - O'Rielly
I don't know if you mean these two will be taking their spots on the senior list
I certainly hope we keep both on the rookie list and then choose them as our nominated rookies on the senior list for next year so they don't need to be elevated to play

O'Rielly probably not but Gourdis I think has done enough to suggest he deserves a spot on the list to be play Round 1 with the same chance of playing as McGuane or Thurstfield.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 29, 2010, 10:22:42 PM
Cousins - Gourdis
Simmonds - O'Rielly
I don't know if you mean these two will be taking their spots on the senior list
I certainly hope we keep both on the rookie list and then choose them as our nominated rookies on the senior list for next year so they don't need to be elevated to play

O'Rielly probably not but Gourdis I think has done enough to suggest he deserves a spot on the list to be play Round 1 with the same chance of playing as McGuane or Thurstfield.
But if he's a nominated rookie then he can play from Round 1 anyway as he takes a place of a veteran we don't have, it's effectively a senior spot but gives us more flexibility
I would like to at least keep him on the rookie list going into the draft and then elevate him with a pick if there is no one left we want to take, will give us more options
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 29, 2010, 10:25:30 PM
I would like to at least keep him on the rookie list going into the draft and then elevate him with a pick if there is no one left we want to take, will give us more options

But you have to nominate rookies to the main list before the draft.

I don't think you can do it after the draft
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 29, 2010, 10:30:31 PM
I would like to at least keep him on the rookie list going into the draft and then elevate him with a pick if there is no one left we want to take, will give us more options

But you have to nominate rookies to the main list before the draft.

I don't think you can do it after the draft
Pretty sure you can use a draft pick to elevate them
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 29, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
I would like to at least keep him on the rookie list going into the draft and then elevate him with a pick if there is no one left we want to take, will give us more options

But you have to nominate rookies to the main list before the draft.

I don't think you can do it after the draft
Pretty sure you can use a draft pick to elevate them

Oops I forgot about that change from last year
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: wayne on August 29, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
LET THE CLEAN OUT BEGIN!

Hardwick, Hislop can not kick the football and must be delisted! Do not go soft and keep Hislop! Jake King who YOU sent back to Coburg has now played that forward-tackling role you had Hislop playing in the beginning!

King is A LOT better then Hislop!

Who's to say that Hardwick can't improve Hislop like he did with King?

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on August 29, 2010, 10:35:59 PM
Cousins - Gourdis
Simmonds - O'Rielly
I don't know if you mean these two will be taking their spots on the senior list
I certainly hope we keep both on the rookie list and then choose them as our nominated rookies on the senior list for next year so they don't need to be elevated to play

O'Rielly probably not but Gourdis I think has done enough to suggest he deserves a spot on the list to be play Round 1 with the same chance of playing as McGuane or Thurstfield.
But if he's a nominated rookie then he can play from Round 1 anyway as he takes a place of a veteran we don't have, it's effectively a senior spot but gives us more flexibility
I would like to at least keep him on the rookie list going into the draft and then elevate him with a pick if there is no one left we want to take, will give us more options

Yeah I can see your reasoning, in a diluted draft we may elect to elevate Gourdis over taking a 70-80 draft pick.

Mentally four Gourdis, it makes sense to reward Gourdis, how many years has been at the club working hard for a spot?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 29, 2010, 11:02:30 PM
Cousins
Simmonds
McMahon
Polak
Moore
Jackson
McGaune
Polo
Nahas
Thomson
Hislop
Gilligan
White

that'd be the ones looked at. If we could trade up our 3rd and 4th picks in the draft this would be nice
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Danog on August 29, 2010, 11:04:51 PM
Could delist Hislop and rookie him.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 29, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
Could delist Hislop and rookie him.
If we're keeping him that would certainly be my preference
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 30, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Gourdis has earned his upgrade. ORLY should remain on the rookie list. I'd trade Nahas and use Hicks and ORLY as the two nominated rookies at the start of next season.

Will Contin get another year? Got the feeling Gilligan was close to a call up at the start of the year before going back to WA that effectively stuffed his year up. One of them has to be cut. I'd keep Gilly.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 30, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
I dont want to see Rance or Nahas at Punt Rd next year. Move them on
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 30, 2010, 12:51:32 PM
I dont want to see Rance or Nahas at Punt Rd next year. Move them on

Cant see Rance getting cut to many infront of him to go before he does.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on August 30, 2010, 01:03:05 PM
Gourdis has earned his upgrade. ORLY should remain on the rookie list. I'd trade Nahas and use Hicks and ORLY as the two nominated rookies at the start of next season.

Will Contin get another year? Got the feeling Gilligan was close to a call up at the start of the year before going back to WA that effectively stuffed his year up. One of them has to be cut. I'd keep Gilly.
Gilligan should definitely go before Contin. Contin has only had 1 season and Gilligan went AWOL for half the season.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: wayne on August 30, 2010, 01:27:54 PM
I dont want to see Rance or Nahas at Punt Rd next year. Move them on

Rance to Freo?

Tarrant wants out, they'll need a tall back.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 30, 2010, 03:35:13 PM
I dont want to see Rance or Nahas at Punt Rd next year. Move them on

Cant see Rance getting cut to many infront of him to go before he does.

i reckon his miss from 15 metres out in the 3rd quarter, I reckon they the texta out and put a line through hsi name. honestly enough is enough . As for Nahas, his 2nd quarter was terrible. :banghead
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Dice on August 30, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Rance aint going anywhere. His last month has been pretty solid. Just starting to find his feet
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Penelope on August 30, 2010, 04:55:56 PM
He would be traded for the right deal.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 30, 2010, 05:27:11 PM
Gilligan should definitely go before Contin. Contin has only had 1 season and Gilligan went AWOL for half the season.

Yeah that was my initial thoughts too but I don't think it'll be that clear cut. Has Contin been good enough to get another year? What position do the club see him playing in the senior side? I dunno. Not all rookies get two years. We've put 3 years into Gilly and either side of his AWOL stint he was apparently playing some good football and got close. Do the club think he can get there next year, do they think Contin can get there next year? They may both go.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on August 30, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
I dunno.

Should have read the RFC player report card.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on August 30, 2010, 07:03:57 PM
Rumours that McGuane could be moving on
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 30, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Rance aint going anywhere. His last month has been pretty solid. Just starting to find his feet

Been terrible, been in and out of the team thats finished 15th,
Wouldnt get a game at another club. Runs around like a headless chook accordingly to Jon Ralph in todays herald sun, and I agree
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tony_montana on August 30, 2010, 08:12:36 PM
Rumours that McGuane could be moving on

i really hope so.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Dice on August 31, 2010, 03:04:03 PM
He would be traded for the right deal.
True , almost anyone would be traded for the right deal. Still , reckon Thursfield and McGuane would go before Rance.
 Probably doesn't mean poo but Hardwick was at Hawthorn when they had a crack at getting Rance from Richmond. Somebody there rated him. Give him a bit more time , he's still very young.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: eliminator on September 01, 2010, 07:07:51 AM
I thought McGuane would be at risk. He has had a poor year. Don't believe Will should be delisted. He is the best spolier in the team. If Nahas is not contracted he must be at risk.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Owl on September 01, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
Will Torsvald delisted??  No stuffing way man.  On Nahas, how old is he?  If he cant beef up a bit to make a tackle stick and get accurate around the sticks, he is in trouble.  Kingy turned his rotten kicking around.  Nahas does have a bit of toe and can get the pill but is still getting pushed around / can't tie up a tackle.  Can't afford a player that is swept aside like that in a one on one.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Stripes on September 01, 2010, 11:36:51 AM
Interesting what was said yesterday on the AFL site regarding each player and who they feel is likely to be delisted -

They said players that were a given to be delisted or traded would be -

McMahon
Polo
Thompson

Hislop was the interesting one - they said that he may be delisted after an injury interrupted season but many aroubd the club love his reckless attack on the ball  :-\

Nahas was also suggested as a possible delisting along with Gilligan.

Roberts, Polak, Simmonds and Cousins are obviously all givens.

The interesting scenerio here for mine is the backline - we seem to have an embarrassment of riches with defensive. Tall defenders including  Thursfield, McGuane, Moore and Rance could all be traded for picks given the improvement of other young talls namely Astbury, Gourdis, Grimes and even Post.

Stripes
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Carvels Ring on September 01, 2010, 12:04:57 PM
mcgaune has to go
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on September 01, 2010, 12:11:33 PM
Interesting what was said yesterday on the AFL site regarding each player and who they feel is likely to be delisted -

They said players that were a given to be delisted or traded would be -

McMahon
Polo
Thompson

Hislop was the interesting one - they said that he may be delisted after an injury interrupted season but many aroubd the club love his reckless attack on the ball  :-\

Nahas was also suggested as a possible delisting along with Gilligan.

Roberts, Polak, Simmonds and Cousins are obviously all givens.

The interesting scenerio here for mine is the backline - we seem to have an embarrassment of riches with defensive. Tall defenders including  Thursfield, McGuane, Moore and Rance could all be traded for picks given the improvement of other young talls namely Astbury, Gourdis, Grimes and even Post.

Stripes

seriously Stripes- where have you seen any improvement in Post lol?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 01, 2010, 12:15:35 PM
In the last game if season clunking marks in goal square
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on September 01, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
In the last game if season clunking marks in goal square

hes gonna need more than that unfortunately, lets hope he does improve in 2011.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on September 01, 2010, 12:35:51 PM
Ramps we have to remember that Post is a KPP. They develop slowly and he's only 20. I rate him higher than a Neagle. I think he'll be a mould of a Tom Hawkins. I like him as a Forward / swing ruckman.

He's also a year and a bit younger than Jack. Some very embarrassed forum members, suggested Jack would never be capable of anything lol..

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Carvels Ring on September 01, 2010, 12:42:23 PM
good perspective benedictus
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on September 01, 2010, 01:12:46 PM
In the last game if season clunking marks in goal square

hes gonna need more than that unfortunately, lets hope he does improve in 2011.
He's only in his 2nd year as a kpp
Wouldn't even be getting a game for another year or two if he was at a Top 8 club
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 01, 2010, 01:17:14 PM
In the last game if season clunking marks in goal square

Marks?

One mark in the goal square  ;D
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on September 01, 2010, 01:20:35 PM
Ramps we have to remember that Post is a KPP. They develop slowly and he's only 20. I rate him higher than a Neagle. I think he'll be a mould of a Tom Hawkins. I like him as a Forward / swing ruckman.

He's also a year and a bit younger than Jack. Some very embarrassed forum members, suggested Jack would never be capable of anything lol..



Neagle lol .... Hawkins done nothing yet either. And yes Riewoldt has come on better than expected and well done to him. I cant see where Post can play. We have Gourdis and Grimes and Astbury down back we have Riewoldt, Griffiths up forward. Wheres Post gonna play?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 01, 2010, 01:26:24 PM
Rance aint going anywhere. His last month has been pretty solid. Just starting to find his feet

Been terrible, been in and out of the team thats finished 15th,
Wouldnt get a game at another club. Runs around like a headless chook accordingly to Jon Ralph in todays herald sun, and I agree

Totally agree Jack, If we can get a trade with Rance we should be jumping all over it I reckon, he has a few problems.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerLand on September 01, 2010, 01:55:36 PM
Ramps we have to remember that Post is a KPP. They develop slowly and he's only 20. I rate him higher than a Neagle. I think he'll be a mould of a Tom Hawkins. I like him as a Forward / swing ruckman.

He's also a year and a bit younger than Jack. Some very embarrassed forum members, suggested Jack would never be capable of anything lol..



Neagle lol .... Hawkins done nothing yet either. And yes Riewoldt has come on better than expected and well done to him. I cant see where Post can play. We have Gourdis and Grimes and Astbury down back we have Riewoldt, Griffiths up forward. Wheres Post gonna play?

3rd tall forward that can be used in a rotation as a 2nd ruckman?

Mooney, JPod, Hawkins/Ottens do it well
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on September 01, 2010, 02:18:53 PM
Posty is going to be a beauty. Only played 14 games, great size, still adjusting to his body.
Did some good things in his last game, disposal was clean, 1 goal 1 assist, 5 i50s, should have grabbed another couple of contested marks, but he looks more confident than earlier in the year.
3rd fwd, ruck rotation and swingman with Astbury.
Good tall prospect.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 01, 2010, 02:36:12 PM
I like the way Gourdis plays and he has heaps of pace but the bugger can't kick. Can we support a 2010 version of Darren Gaspar in this day and age?

If you were in David's head during a game it would be like "okay here comes the pill..Good spoil Dave. Crumb your own ball.. good one, now run you bugger. Good leg speed saves me again. You da Man Dave,...well in the clear now... have to bounce...don't want to kick...aww crap running out of space...might have to kick...WWJD (What Would Jordan Do  ;D) someone please come into handball range...cmon someone throw me a bone...aww crap...have to kick...HELICOPTER and turnover!! Must get back to the contest..feet don't fail me now..... okay here comes the pill.....Good spoil Dave..."   Must Trade or Delist

Note: Excessive use of full stops is a pause for effect


As far as trading Edwards??? Thats like spending 4 years working on a GTHO, getting it into mint condition and then putting it on ebay with a "buy it now" of a thousand bucks. Gimme a break. He is a gun!

Polo needs to go. He's like that lumpy old couch that you have with the springs that twang whenever you sit on it. You put up with its imperfections in the regular season, but when you and a lady friend decide to "play finals", it falls well short of expectations and ends up looking like the turf at Etihad.

Thomson spends more time on the hoist than a Lada Samara! Has to go. We are not the Alfred. Ditto Hislop but he may stay for a bit of concrete (and the potential of snotting Milne and Ballantyne for our sheer enjoyment)

Whitey has been brilliant this year and must stay. Ditto Kingy







Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 01, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
Posty is going to be a beauty. Only played 14 games, great size, still adjusting to his body.
Did some good things in his last game, disposal was clean, 1 goal 1 assist, 5 i50s, should have grabbed another couple of contested marks, but he looks more confident than earlier in the year.
3rd fwd, ruck rotation and swingman with Astbury.
Good tall prospect.  :thumbsup

Yes I was pleasantly surprised with his last game, with a bit of time, maturity (body and mind) and experience I think we have got a gooden here we just need to hang in there.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tdy on September 01, 2010, 04:11:55 PM
Could delist Hislop and rookie him.

Thats such a bad idea.  It screams of Terry Wallace era type recruiting. Remember all the rerecruiting he did.  If he can't make it now after 3 years he wont make it. Drop him now and try someone new.

Recruiting is about weeding out those who can't make it.

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on September 01, 2010, 10:07:41 PM
Could delist Hislop and rookie him.

Thats such a bad idea.  It screams of Terry Wallace era type recruiting. Remember all the rerecruiting he did.  If he can't make it now after 3 years he wont make it. Drop him now and try someone new.

Recruiting is about weeding out those who can't make it.
Its a better option than keeping him on the senior list which looks like what is going to happen
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Con65 on September 02, 2010, 11:51:25 AM
I like the way Gourdis plays and he has heaps of pace but the bugger can't kick. Can we support a 2010 version of Darren Gaspar in this day and age?

If you were in David's head during a game it would be like "okay here comes the pill..Good spoil Dave. Crumb your own ball.. good one, now run you bugger. Good leg speed saves me again. You da Man Dave,...well in the clear now... have to bounce...don't want to kick...aww crap running out of space...might have to kick...WWJD (What Would Jordan Do  ;D) someone please come into handball range...cmon someone throw me a bone...aww crap...have to kick...HELICOPTER and turnover!! Must get back to the contest..feet don't fail me now..... okay here comes the pill.....Good spoil Dave..."   Must Trade or Delist

Note: Excessive use of full stops is a pause for effectquote]

Tiga

that is absolute baloney...Gourdis had 18 kicks in his 3 afl games...and aside from one or 2 that I can remember...i dont think he had that many turnovers...on the weekend when he ran away from Schulz, and took a bounce...there were no options...hence why he stopped...

I think one of the reasons he is appealing to our coaches is that he does take a goood mark and give some run and rive from defence...he is awfully quick for a big fella....

if you can back up your emotive criticism of him with some stats I would be pleased to read it....

(by the way, I am his player sposor at the club so spend a lot of time watching him during the games....)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 02, 2010, 12:46:10 PM
Con, You just have to look at his kicking technique. He does not look confident at all. He's very Gaspar like. I call it as I see it. You don't need to look at stats to see that he seriously needs work on his foot skills. Many times you could see team mates circling him waiting for the handball because they know he is not highly skilled by foot.
 As I mentioned, I actually do like his style of play. He's quick, strong and positions himself well but in this day and age you really need to be able to deliver the ball confidently and accurately on a regular basis especially coming out of the backline and I believe this is a weakness in his game that may not be able to be coached out.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Chuck17 on September 02, 2010, 12:50:12 PM
The Goo has a 80% kicking efficiency with 3 clangers for this year.

Personally dont think his kicking action is that bad, but time will tell.  To me he looks like he wants to boot the crap out of it but is restrained by trying to hit up a target.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 02, 2010, 12:52:06 PM
The Goo might not be the best kick but there are not many blokes his size as fast as the Goo. major upside
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2010, 02:14:48 PM
RICHMOND - TRADE SECRETS

Football manager Craig Cameron said the club might move on as many as eight players.

By my reckoning they would be Ben Cousins, Troy Simmonds, Jordan McMahon, Dean Polo, Relton Roberts, Adam Hislop, Adam Thomson and Graham Polak.

Mitch Morton might have been trade bait once but his last month has saved him.

Robin Nahas has been in and out of the side and might be offered up, especially if they can lure Adelaide half-forward Chris Knights.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-will-pav-walk/story-e6frf9jf-1225912285599
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Con65 on September 02, 2010, 02:42:30 PM
The Goo has a 80% kicking efficiency with 3 clangers for this year.

Personally dont think his kicking action is that bad, but time will tell.  To me he looks like he wants to boot the crap out of it but is restrained by trying to hit up a target.

Thanks Chuck...his style looks a bit awkward but he hits his targets...not everyone will look like royce heart....out of interest where did you get the stats from Chuck.

Tiga: As for team mates circling him cos they know he isnt a good kick...that too is baloney...how do you know, have you asked them?

Out of interest, why doesnt the guy who came second in our b&f last night get the same scrutiny when he kicks it to an opposition player?
From memory, he turned it over and resulted in an opposition goal ...silence on these forums about him... ;D

With all the baloney you are dishing up in this post...i might just go and order a baloney sandwich as a late lunch.  :scream
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Stripes on September 02, 2010, 03:04:09 PM
That would be my call too with McGuane possible heading off to Gold Coast. If he stays I would look to trade one of Thursfield, Moore or even Rance for a pick as we seem to have an embarrassment of riches with tall defenders at the moment...

Stripes
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Chuck17 on September 02, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
Thanks Chuck...his style looks a bit awkward but he hits his targets...not everyone will look like royce heart....out of interest where did you get the stats from Chuck.

In the official RFC site Con, just click on season 2010, then statistics, select full year and you can add disposal efficiency and clangers to the standard statisitcs.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Smokey on September 02, 2010, 03:48:08 PM
The Goo has a 80% kicking efficiency with 3 clangers for this year.

Personally dont think his kicking action is that bad, but time will tell.  To me he looks like he wants to boot the crap out of it but is restrained by trying to hit up a target.

Thanks Chuck...his style looks a bit awkward but he hits his targets...not everyone will look like royce heart....out of interest where did you get the stats from Chuck.


Some more stats Con:

39 disposals (18k 21h), 16 marks, 2 tackles, 13 contested possessions, 23 1%ers, 12 kicks to advantage, 3 kicks to opponent, 3 critical errors, 3 skill errors (can be the same ones as the critical errors), 27 effective disposals (69.2%).  Stats from the Pro-Stats site but can't give you a direct link because it's a subscription site.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Carvels Ring on September 02, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
That would be my call too with McGuane possible heading off to Gold Coast. If he stays I would look to trade one of Thursfield, Moore or even Rance for a pick as we seem to have an embarrassment of riches with tall defenders at the moment...

Stripes

i thought Luke was contracted
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Con65 on September 02, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
Thanks Smokey...out of interest is 23 1%er high for 3 games..ie an average of just under 8?

Also, 12 kicks to advantage out of 18 and only 3 to opponent in 3 games means 66.66% of kicks to advantage...hardly a turnover merchant IMHO.

I note that in the voting for Jack- Gourdis got 13 votes.  finished above hislop, thomo, dea and polo and was level with Post.  Not too bad for a kid playing his first 3 games of AFL.

Unfortunatley Polo only got 2 votes, it might well be an indication of where the coaches mindsets are with Dean.  Good foot soldier, pity he didnt come on as we all would have liked.

Back to eating my baloney sandwich now.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 02, 2010, 04:21:35 PM
The Goo has a 80% kicking efficiency with 3 clangers for this year.

Personally dont think his kicking action is that bad, but time will tell.  To me he looks like he wants to boot the crap out of it but is restrained by trying to hit up a target.

Thanks Chuck...his style looks a bit awkward but he hits his targets...not everyone will look like royce heart....out of interest where did you get the stats from Chuck.

Tiga: As for team mates circling him cos they know he isnt a good kick...that too is baloney...how do you know, have you asked them?

Out of interest, why doesnt the guy who came second in our b&f last night get the same scrutiny when he kicks it to an opposition player?
From memory, he turned it over and resulted in an opposition goal ...silence on these forums about him... ;D

With all the baloney you are dishing up in this post...i might just go and order a baloney sandwich as a late lunch.  :scream

Con, firstly if you are going to use a word so repetitively in a post you might want to spell it correctly...Bologna as in Bologna sausage.
As Bentleigh said Goo does have an upside with his size and pace and I have stated this from the very start and its part of my post that you have continually overlooked or is that part Bologna too?? Also Chuck throwing in AFL stats on Goo is irrelevant. That is why I didn't produce any. How can you put forward statistics of player who has only played 3 senior games and use them as some sort of evidence that he is a good kick?  But lets go down the stats path if you want....AT COBURG...2010, 15 matches for 2 goals 32 behinds...doesn't that say something to you?? Maybe there was a strong wind in those 15 matches.  ::)



Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Con65 on September 02, 2010, 04:40:35 PM
Ahh Tiga...I am spelling baloney correctly.

As for David kicking 2.32 for the season at Coburg...dont get too excited.

sportingpulse says he kicked 32 behinds...take the game against sandringham...sporting pulse has Gourdis with 5 behinds that day...sandi won 10.18 to the burgers 10.10...yet go to
http://www.sportingpulse.com/round_info.cgi?action=MATCH&fixture=101150713&client=1-118-0-102874-9815591
which has gorudis' 5 behinds in it...you will see that the team somehow miraculously kicked not 10 behinds but 21 behinds...and Sandi didnt kick 18 behinds but also miraculously kicked 21 behinds...there are other errors in sportingpulse stats as well...nice try but wrong

I would be very surprised if David kicked 2.32 for the season at Couburg :cheers
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Dice on September 02, 2010, 04:42:47 PM
not everyone will look like royce heart
Who ??  Is he part of the Heart Foundation ? Jim the Anvil , Brett the Hitman and err..umm. Royce !!  ;)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2010, 04:46:34 PM
You bloody muppets :banghead The "B" stands for best players, not behinds. Gourdis played Full Back for Coburg. I don't think he ran off his opponent all game and averaged 2 points a game.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 02, 2010, 05:39:20 PM
You bloody muppets :banghead The "B" stands for best players, not behinds. Gourdis played Full Back for Coburg. I don't think he ran off his opponent all game and averaged 2 points a game.

God I am a weapon!  :banghead thanks Davey for clearing that up! I told you all I was Crap with statistics.

Why didn't you pick this up Con considering you follow the Goo so closely?? You didn't even know he was a backman at Coburg.
It took Davey Crockett to tell us that. He seems to know more about Gourdis than the two of us put together.

Gourdis still can't kick though!!!  :rollin
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Chuck17 on September 02, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Its all right Tiga, don't let the facts ruin a good story
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 02, 2010, 05:49:43 PM
Its all right Tiga, don't let the facts ruin a good story

Chuck it started of as a lighthearted story but I think I struck a raw nerve with Conny boy. But I guess nobody wants to admit they put their hard earned on a lame starter in the 5th at Caulfield.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on September 02, 2010, 06:45:13 PM
Its all right Tiga, don't let the facts ruin a good story

Chuck it started of as a lighthearted story but I think I struck a raw nerve with Conny boy. But I guess nobody wants to admit they put their hard earned on a lame starter in the 5th at Caulfield.

I would keep Gourdis in front of Thursfield, McGuane and Rance every day of the week!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Coach on September 02, 2010, 06:48:34 PM
You bloody muppets :banghead The "B" stands for best players, not behinds. Gourdis played Full Back for Coburg. I don't think he ran off his opponent all game and averaged 2 points a game.

God I am a weapon!  :banghead thanks Davey for clearing that up! I told you all I was Crap with statistics.

No worries babe :)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Smokey on September 02, 2010, 08:55:40 PM
Thanks Smokey...out of interest is 23 1%er high for 3 games..ie an average of just under 8?


All my stats were totals (and percentages) for the 3 games Con.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on September 03, 2010, 03:03:23 PM
Its all right Tiga, don't let the facts ruin a good story

Chuck it started of as a lighthearted story but I think I struck a raw nerve with Conny boy. But I guess nobody wants to admit they put their hard earned on a lame starter in the 5th at Caulfield.

I would keep Gourdis in front of Thursfield, McGuane and Rance every day of the week!
In the line for Kicking practice...I agree wholeheartedly!  :lol
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2010, 09:48:06 PM
A Saints supporter on BF ....... so take this for what it's worth


"I have it on very good authority that Richmond have delisted or are delisting 12 players. Looks like you are going to be very active in the trading period, probably trade off a lot of this years draft picks for some ready made players.

I know for a fact that Jordan McMahon has been delisted and is looking at trying to join up with Gold Coast. "

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18981196&postcount=308
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2010, 09:50:51 PM
A Saints supporter on BF ....... so take this for what it's worth


"I have it on very good authority that Richmond have delisted or are delisting 12 players. Looks like you are going to be very active in the trading period, probably trade off a lot of this years draft picks for some ready made players.

I know for a fact that Jordan McMahon has been delisted and is looking at trying to join up with Gold Coast. "

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18981196&postcount=308


That's very funny

12 players  :o  :rollin

Trading away draft picks for ready made players for what? To challenge for the 2011 Flag  :rollin :rollin

Jordie's been given the flick - that's a  :gobdrop :gobdrop announcement right there

Funny stuff
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on September 08, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
A Saints supporter on BF ....... so take this for what it's worth


"I have it on very good authority that Richmond have delisted or are delisting 12 players. Looks like you are going to be very active in the trading period, probably trade off a lot of this years draft picks for some ready made players.

I know for a fact that Jordan McMahon has been delisted and is looking at trying to join up with Gold Coast. "

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18981196&postcount=308


That's very funny

12 players  :o  :rollin

Trading away draft picks for ready made players for what? To challenge for the 2011 Flag  :rollin :rollin

Jordie's been given the flick - that's a  :gobdrop :gobdrop announcement right there

Funny stuff

Massive BigFooty Scoop right there!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 08, 2010, 10:58:28 PM
this has already been answered but can we get anything if Mclovin goes to GC. Probably not hey?

i guess GC would be asking us to pay them for taking him off our hands.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: DCrane on September 08, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
this has already been answered but can we get anything if Mclovin goes to GC.

An expired tram ticket would be enough to seal the deal on that one.

Daniel are you expecting GC recruiters to be as dumb as the tanned one?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ox on September 08, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
A Saints supporter on BF ....... so take this for what it's worth


"I have it on very good authority that Richmond have delisted or are delisting 12 players. Looks like you are going to be very active in the trading period, probably trade off a lot of this years draft picks for some ready made players.

I know for a fact that Jordan McMahon has been delisted and is looking at trying to join up with Gold Coast. "

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18981196&postcount=308


very good authority being his nob.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Smokey on September 09, 2010, 06:21:13 AM

"I have it on very good authority that Richmond have delisted or are delisting 12 players. Looks like you are going to be very active in the trading period, probably trade off a lot of this years draft picks for some ready made players.


There's a troll if ever I read one!  :wallywink
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Tigermonk on September 09, 2010, 10:22:17 AM
maybe 12 coburg players  ;D
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on September 09, 2010, 10:35:58 PM
when are the delistings going to happen!

want to see they blood spill!

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Danog on September 10, 2010, 12:06:04 AM
For one, it'd be stupid to announce delistings before Trade Week where we might be able to get SOMETHING for them.

Also, it's poor form of you to be so enthusiastic about a bunch of kids losing their livelihood.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2010, 03:27:32 AM
The only way we'd get to 12 changes is if we were trade 2-3 players away.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on September 17, 2010, 02:40:27 PM
From the Herald-Sun....

RICHMOND believes its delistings could still have AFL currency and will wait until the completion of trade week to announce them.
The Tigers intended to name their departures at the end of Round 22 but have decided to hold off to explore trade options.

Ben Cousins, Troy Simmonds and Graham Polak have retired, while Jordan McMahon, Tom Hislop, Dean Polo, Adam Thomson and rookies Relton Roberts and Alroy Gilligan are unlikely to remain.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-in-hunt-for-bachar-houli/story-e6frf9jx-1225924921375
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Mr Magic on September 18, 2010, 12:07:35 AM
Correct move. Wish we'd done it long before now.
In the current environment anything is possible.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: the claw on September 18, 2010, 12:52:14 AM
If that includes rookies then that is done pretty easily

Cousins
Simmonds
McMahon
Polo
Thomson
Polak*
Roberts*
Gilligan* or Nahas or White or Hislop
YOUR stuffing  JOKING HACK HACK HACK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. OOPS  CAPS ON APOLOGIES.

No way in the world I can see White being delisted

Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Penelope on October 04, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
Thanks to Toadvine on BF

Quote
Good news for the Double Blues with delisted Richmond midfielder Adam Thomson heading back to Unley next season.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063)
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on October 04, 2010, 11:45:11 PM
temp bump

Who do you think?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on October 04, 2010, 11:51:04 PM
temp bump

Who do you think?
You were too quick for me torch  ;). Just a moderator bump up of the thread so I could easily move al's post about Thomson being delisted here where more people will notice it :).
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on October 05, 2010, 12:31:45 AM
temp bump

Who do you think?
You were too quick for me torch  ;). Just a moderator bump up of the thread so I could easily move al's post about Thomson being delisted here where more people will notice it :).

So who do you think will get delisted OE?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: one-eyed on October 05, 2010, 01:19:49 AM
temp bump

Who do you think?
You were too quick for me torch  ;). Just a moderator bump up of the thread so I could easily move al's post about Thomson being delisted here where more people will notice it :).

So who do you think will get delisted OE?
This isn't exactly what I would do but what I think will happen.....

Senior list:
Cuz (retired)
Simmo (retired)
Thomson (delisted)
McMahon (delisted)
Polo (delisted)
Hislop (demoted to rookie list)

Rookie list:
Polak (retired)
Roberts (delisted)
Gilligan (delisted)
Gourdis (promoted to senior list)

Thursfield and Tambling traded out and Grigg traded in.

So 6 senior list spots free - picks 6, mid-late 20s (from Tambling trade), 35, 53, 70 plus PSD (Houli)

There could be more though but this would be a total guess. McGuane may be thrown in at a club desperate for a key defender of any sort to score another top 15-30 pick (GC 15, Carl 18, Haw 19, Freo 20) or Rance used to push one of the first 3 picks higher - eg: Rance + pick 35 for WC's pick 26. If all went through we'd end up with say picks 6, 15-20, 26, 29, 53, 70 and PSD. How many Tigers are moved on in total all depends on hold bold the Club is this week and how many desperate other clubs are out there willing to hand over decent picks for our expendable players with some trade value.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on October 05, 2010, 06:54:59 PM
Thanks to Toadvine on BF

Quote
Good news for the Double Blues with delisted Richmond midfielder Adam Thomson heading back to Unley next season.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063)
Thomson is a friendly bloke so not his fault Richmond's list manager was stupid but this is another one of these dud RFC trades for fringe players that should never have happened in the first place. A total waste of decent pick (#42) which could have snared us one of Mitch Banner, Liam Anthony, Rory Sloane or Aaron Cornelius.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on October 05, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
temp bump

Who do you think?
You were too quick for me torch  ;). Just a moderator bump up of the thread so I could easily move al's post about Thomson being delisted here where more people will notice it :).

So who do you think will get delisted OE?
This isn't exactly what I would do but what I think will happen.....

Senior list:
Cuz (retired)
Simmo (retired)
Thomson (delisted)
McMahon (delisted)
Polo (delisted)
Hislop (demoted to rookie list)

Rookie list:
Polak (retired)
Roberts (delisted)
Gilligan (delisted)
Gourdis (promoted to senior list)

Thursfield and Tambling traded out and Grigg traded in.

So 6 senior list spots free - picks 6, mid-late 20s (from Tambling trade), 35, 53, 70 plus PSD (Houli)

There could be more though but this would be a total guess. McGuane may be thrown in at a club desperate for a key defender of any sort to score another top 15-30 pick (GC 15, Carl 18, Haw 19, Freo 20) or Rance used to push one of the first 3 picks higher - eg: Rance + pick 35 for WC's pick 26. If all went through we'd end up with say picks 6, 15-20, 26, 29, 53, 70 and PSD. How many Tigers are moved on in total all depends on hold bold the Club is this week and how many desperate other clubs are out there willing to hand over decent picks for our expendable players with some trade value.

Would love it if Hislop just gets Delisted!

Hardwick said there was "No Sentiment In Football!" He is showing some towards Hislop!

All the rest I agree with and hope they actually happen!

If we trade Thursfield for Grigg and pick up Houli in the PSD, I would take that.

Would love it also if we throw McGuane at the Gold Coast for Pick 15!

Like you said, pick uo a 1st or 2nd Round Pick for Tambling, and that should do us.

If we come out with all those, a lot of Richmond supporters will be happy!

 :gotigers
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on October 05, 2010, 07:16:20 PM
Thanks to Toadvine on BF

Quote
Good news for the Double Blues with delisted Richmond midfielder Adam Thomson heading back to Unley next season.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mmcm-grand-final-edition/story-e6freckc-1225933573063)
Thomson is a friendly bloke so not his fault Richmond's list manager was stupid but this is another one of these dud RFC trades for fringe players that should never have happened in the first place. A total waste of decent pick (#42) which could have snared us one of Mitch Banner, Liam Anthony, Rory Sloane or Aaron Cornelius.

Yep! Craig Cameron's idea!

Pick 42 would of been very nice!

If you look at last years draft, Dea and Taylor in the Pick 40's, giving both 18 year olds an opportunity!

They might not make it, hope so, but I personally would have them then Thomson. Waste of him he was.

Good luck at Sturt Adam!
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on October 13, 2010, 05:35:16 PM
From the RFC twitter page....

"is Macmahon on the list? please please please let me see his name on that delisting list please"

 ;D

It also says delistings to be announced within the next week or two at the latest.

10 players gone all up?

Cousins (retired)
Simmonds (retired)
Tambling (traded)
Collins (traded)
McMahon (delisted)
Thomson (delisted)
Polo (delisted)
Polak# (retired)
Roberts# (delisted)
Gilligan# (delisted)

With Grigg on board and Hislop demoted to the rookie list that'll give us 7 spots free on our senior list and two rookie spots free.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Heart of Darkness on October 13, 2010, 07:19:04 PM
Seems fairly on the money mightytiges, leaves us promoting the Goo i would guess using draft picks 6, 29, 46, 50, 63 and using our PSD pick (probabaly on houli if he dosn't enter the N.D., would prefer to get him here). Retaining Hicks, O reilly, Westhoff and Contin on the rookie list possible using 1 rookie pick on miller leaving us 1 rookie pick?? Would like to completely get rid of Hislop and have another rookie selection but the coach does seem to have a soft spot for him.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on October 13, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
Pretty sure they are going to try and rookie Lawton from Coburg.

+ we need another Barunga Bullet type, but lite on the cheddar

A rookie ruckman would be good too, unless we pick up the J.Giles band in the PSD.

I'd also look at delisting Contin and rookie another mid project with more size and more upside if one can be found.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Infamy on October 14, 2010, 12:04:48 AM
I'd also look at delisting Contin and rookie another mid project with more size and more upside if one can be found.
Harsh, he's only had a year and earnt his spot with Coburg Seniors by the end of the year
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2010, 07:39:36 AM
I would think Gourdis will be promoted to the senior list  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: tiga on October 14, 2010, 09:10:36 AM
Pretty sure they are going to try and rookie Lawton from Coburg.

+ we need another Barunga Bullet type, but lite on the cheddar

A rookie ruckman would be good too, unless we pick up the J.Giles band in the PSD.

I'd also look at delisting Contin and rookie another mid project with more size and more upside if one can be found.

As far as I was aware Contin is rated by the club and we are giving him time to develop. Also by all reports he is making good progress.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2010, 11:03:56 AM
I'd also look at delisting Contin and rookie another mid project with more size and more upside if one can be found.
Harsh, he's only had a year and earnt his spot with Coburg Seniors by the end of the year

Yep it is harsh. I like him, played some good footy for the Bays before coming over, thought he would have established himself in the Burger seniors a bit quicker than he did. Just trying to think of ways to get more talent on the list and with Hislop & Miller taking two of our rookie spots  :banghead Patty was the only avenue i could come up with.

I think he'll stay on FWIW.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: torch on October 14, 2010, 07:21:05 PM
[size=200pt]Tigers cut six players[/size]

By Luke Holmesby

RICHMOND has made drastic changes to its list, cutting a further six players.

Tom Hislop, Jordan McMahon, Dean Polo, Adam Thomson and rookies Relton Roberts and Alroy Gilligan have all been axed after the Tigers finished 2010 in 15th place.

They join retiring trio Ben Cousins, Graham Polak and Troy Simmonds out the exit door at Punt Rd while Andrew Collins and Richard Tambling were traded away.

Carlton's Shaun Grigg came to the club as part of the Collins trade.

McMahon played 148 AFL games since being drafted with pick 10 by the Western Bulldogs in 2000, playing 34 of those games for the Tigers after he was traded for pick 19 in the 2007 NAB AFL Draft.

He was the only senior listed player not to play a game in Richmond's senior side in 2010.

Hislop arrived at the Tigers at the start of 2009 after he was axed by Essendon, where he played seven games. He played a further 15 for Richmond, three of which were in 2010.

Thomson also came to the Tigers via another club but he only managed four games in the yellow and black after he was traded from Port Adelaide at the end of 2008.

Polo played 56 games for Richmond after being drafted with pick 20 in 2004.

Roberts made his debut in round one this year for the Tigers after starting the season on the rookie list. He played one more game before returning home to the Northern Territory mid-season.

Gilligan didn't play a senior game for the Tigers.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
I'd also look at delisting Contin and rookie another mid project with more size and more upside if one can be found.
Harsh, he's only had a year and earnt his spot with Coburg Seniors by the end of the year

Yep it is harsh. I like him, played some good footy for the Bays before coming over, thought he would have established himself in the Burger seniors a bit quicker than he did. Just trying to think of ways to get more talent on the list and with Hislop & Miller taking two of our rookie spots  :banghead Patty was the only avenue i could come up with.

I think he'll stay on FWIW.
Contin may or may not make it but he did play the last 7 games in the Coburg seniors and 10 games all up. He was unlucky to not play more IMO. I'd rather Contin had played more Coburg seniors that wasting time with older RFC players waiting to be delisted.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: eliminator on October 15, 2010, 07:21:06 AM
Club made the right choices in delistings. Now to move on
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Penelope on October 15, 2010, 09:31:27 AM
what is the origin of talk about Hislop being put on the rookie list?
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: gerkin greg on October 15, 2010, 10:49:15 AM
Contin may or may not make it but he did play the last 7 games in the Coburg seniors and 10 games all up. He was unlucky to not play more IMO. I'd rather Contin had played more Coburg seniors that wasting time with older RFC players waiting to be delisted.

Fair point MT.

Got a new marketing slogan for the Tiges:

"Richmond – Where good SANFL careers start"
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: the claw on October 16, 2010, 11:18:14 PM
would have liked to see two more go. yet one cant complain 8 from the list proper and 3 rookies.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Mr Magic on October 17, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
Miller & Hislop on the rookie list?
What a waste.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: Ramps on October 17, 2010, 11:05:50 AM
would have liked to see two more go. yet one cant complain 8 from the list proper and 3 rookies.

Hardwicks has let go 25 players in the space of 13 months claw. Its a pretty good effort in reality.
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: TigerTimeII on October 17, 2010, 12:30:20 PM
would have liked to see two more go. yet one cant complain 8 from the list proper and 3 rookies.

iirc 13 is the maximum a club can get rid of in one given yr, so 25 in 2 seasons is fantastic

so i agree with you ramps
Title: Re: 8 Tigers to be delisted
Post by: the claw on October 17, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
would have liked to see two more go. yet one cant complain 8 from the list proper and 3 rookies.

iirc 13 is the maximum a club can get rid of in one given yr, so 25 in 2 seasons is fantastic

so i agree with you ramps
dont believe that is correct you can delist as many as you like the trouble being you end up useing lots of picks very late.

griigg houli gourdis is three delistings straight of. it still leaves 6 29 32 46 50 63 80 plus 4 rookies.