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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tony_montana on September 25, 2010, 01:27:42 AM
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Pretty safe to say these 3 are locked in:
1. Swallow
2. Day
3. Bennell
We will have a shot at one of Heppel, Atley, Gaff, Lynch, Darling and Gorringe. Who would you prefer and for those who have seen their fair share of under 18's give us your thoughts..
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Darling cause he would fit right into the team, with dusty, lids. cotch ... butthis guy is the one who can kick it too JR8 or griff and kick a few as well :thumbsup ... it dosent stop there, he can also tag or defend fro counter which we despreatly need :pray
can get him then most likely Day :thumbsup
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Darling cause he would fit right into the team, with dusty, lids. cotch ... butthis guy is the one who can kick it too JR8 or griff and kick a few as well :thumbsup ... it dosent stop there, he can also tag or defend fro counter which we despreatly need :pray
can get him then most likely Day :thumbsup
Isn't Darlng a Key Forward?
Gaff for me!
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Darling cause he would fit right into the team, with dusty, lids. cotch ... butthis guy is the one who can kick it too JR8 or griff and kick a few as well :thumbsup ... it dosent stop there, he can also tag or defend fro counter which we despreatly need :pray
can get him then most likely Day :thumbsup
Isn't Darlng a Key Forward?
Gaff for me!
I gess so.. but i would see him as a attacking mid but can play both roles .. with some defense skills as well .. kind of like a tall cousins :rollin
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Gaff. We have plenty of talls
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Dyson Heppell sounds like he would be a good fit.
If Heppell is taken at 4 OR 5 Id lean towards
Shaun Atley
Brodie Smith
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Gaff. Keep filling the hamburger.
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Depending on what we need and want - I really like Darling or Atley with Gaff behind them.
Darling will be a gun CHF, but has some unfortunate lead up to the draft. Expelled for a drunken sex romp with his school mates on a camp with a local bird and then getting king hit in Perth earlier this month with some pretty serious head injuries after a night out.. Might be a bit of work and he may slip past WCE pick after the assault but WCE had locked him in for pick 6, Darling being a WA boy..
Atley is exactly what Hardwick says we need. Outside mid with classy skills and elite pace. Strong as in teh hips and great agility being apart of Victoria's athletic team for 100m hurdles. He is capable over head with a good leap.
Gaff 100% historical outside mid. Plays a bit like Marc Murphy or even Ablett, constantly running around packs and team mates toi get a handball recieve. Disposal I think is behind Atley aswell as pace and being smaller I think isn't a good of a pick. Has footy smarts and knows where to be more so than Atley.
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Best available than you! I dont care if they play KP, Inside mid or Out, FFS if they can play well at HB, HF, FF, FB, Wing center or ruck, even if they can be a swing man off the bench! as long as they are classed as the best junior footballer available @ #6 we need to get them period........
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Atley, he has my surname just a variation on the spelling, he must be a stuffing champion like me.
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Atley, he has my surname just a variation on the spelling, he must be a effing champion like me.
Another classy post :'(
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Gaff
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whoever francis jackson thinks is our best option.
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Gaff
Can he kick goals ? and will he just play for us first year?
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Can he kick goals ? and will he just play for us first year?
Haven't got the crystal ball handy but he looks pretty good. Can kick, can collect.
I see him as a type we need.
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Can he kick goals ? and will he just play for us first year?
Haven't got the crystal ball handy but he looks pretty good. Can kick, can collect.
I see him as a type we need.
Are there any vids of him?
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yeah type in afl draft 2010 into youtube. There are videos on all the top prospects.
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Daniel Gorringe if we are going for a big bloke:
Outstanding at Ground level for 198cm
Quick over the first metres
Good size already and could easily develop as a key forward
Good tapwork when he goes into the ruck
Knows how to kick a goal
If we take a midfielder then theres a variety of players- personally I like Smith and Atley
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Gorringe was most recently measured at 200cm.
I'm with Blaisee. Who ever FJ picks I'll put my full support behind. The 4 or 5 candidates are so even it's easy to make a case for or against anyone of them.
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Gaff. Has been my pick from day 1. Atley close behind. We need a quality mid its as simple as that
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Gaff. Has been my pick from day 1. Atley close behind. We need a quality mid its as simple as that
Thing is i just watched darling and it looks like he can play attacking mid, he has teh body for it and it would relive sooooo much pressure of Jr8
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whoever francis jackson thinks is our best option.
cmon blaisee that was the exact thinking when miller was in charge and before him beck dont put your head in the sand and trust to blind faith demand from our club and demand that at least common sense is used and they go thru due process and take the best available.
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Gaff. Has been my pick from day 1. Atley close behind. We need a quality mid its as simple as that
Gaff dosent have the body too lanky
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whoever francis jackson thinks is our best option.
cmon blaisee that was the exact thinking when miller was in charge and before him beck dont put your head in the sand and trust to blind faith demand from our club and demand that at least common sense is used and they go thru due process and take the best available.
just saying that i dont know enough to be qualified to know who I want at pick 6. FJ and his team are qualified.
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whoever francis jackson thinks is our best option.
cmon blaisee that was the exact thinking when miller was in charge and before him beck dont put your head in the sand and trust to blind faith demand from our club and demand that at least common sense is used and they go thru due process and take the best available.
just saying that i dont know enough to be qualified to know who I want at pick 6. FJ and his team are qualified.
fair enough hers hoping they do indeed use some common sense and they are indeed qualified.
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This is how I rate them personally after seeing some footage
Darling reminds me of Pav and Aaron Hammill and should be seriously considered. Ready to go from day dot 190cm 94kg, has a natural instinct to hit the contest hard which i love. Could turn into a great foil in our fwd line, can play high if griffiths Reiwoldt are playing deep, and can play deep out of the square if either of those 2 are being shutdown. Also heard he had ankle surgery early in the year which has impacted his power running all year. Looks more than capable of pinch hitting in the midfield in a Pav/Goodes way. Just a very powerful unit that will impact games.
Gorringe is a freak athletically, 200cm so good ruck height and just amazingly agile. Would probably give Kruezer a run for his money in the big man agility stakes. Very impressive! Seriously consider.
Would rate Heppell first out of the midfielders, has bolted bigtime in recent months, really stood out when moved into midfield as a future capable utility. He'd slot in beautifully off our HB line and into our midfield rotation. Looks a smart solid player.
Atley, very athletic outside midfielder. From what I've seen I just don't think he has that x factor. Does everything well without being outstanding in any particular area.
I don't think we should take Gaff, in all footage I've seen he seems to like dropping back very deep for the easy ball. Also never seen him kick over a jam tin on his right foot, in AFL he won't get as much time to use his left religiously and will get exposed. Reminds me of a cross between Marc Murphy(minus the hurt factor of kicking goals) & Carrazo when he was getting cheap possies in the back half without the class to hurt. Reckon you could find his type of midfielder later in the draft.
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Noticed Jared Polec had 17 possies up to half-time for Woodville-West Torrens in the SANFL seniors Preliminary Final. Norwood had to tag him out of the game after half-time. Finished with 19 disposals, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 4 I50's and 3 behinds. Polec has played 9 senior SANFL games this year from late July and debuted in the seniors as a 16 year old last year. Not bad all up for an 17 year old.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/nf/team_info.cgi?player=Jared%20Polec&action=PSTATS&pID=190806951&client=1-3289-0-103282-10028567
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Darling is a intersting one. If we took a risk with him it couLd be a be pay off.
He was talked up as pick one last year when kicking goals in wafl seniors. Aa chf
darling, griffiths, riewoldt, taylor would be good balance forward line.
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I don't think we should be taking chances with Pick 6
Best available please
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Darling is a intersting one. If we took a risk with him it couLd be a be pay off.
He was talked up as pick one last year when kicking goals in wafl seniors. Aa chf
darling, griffiths, riewoldt, taylor would be good balance forward line.
I honestly don't think its a risk. He will be an AFL player and pretty damn good one too. Recruiters are just worried that his perceived 'upside' is not as great as others likely to go around the mark - ie Daniel Rich last draft.
For mine he's not a risk, if due diligence is done on his ankle(and the reason for his apparent slowing down this season), his recent head injury and his psychological strengths/weaknesses I'd be very happy to pick him up. Would give our fwd line an added dimension we don't have, ie an enforcer bc this kid is a unit that loves to hit the contest hard.
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I don't think we should be taking chances with Pick 6
Best available please
our recruiting staff may think darling is the best player left at our pick ...
Tallish
goes hard at football
good runner
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According to Emma Quayle, Darling has begun running and will attend the draft combine. ( Why the stuff do they call it a combine now? what does that mean? )
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I don't think we should be taking chances with Pick 6
Best available please
our recruiting staff may think darling is the best player left at our pick ...
Tallish
goes hard at football
good runner
Somehow I doubt it, expect him to slide
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my only question on darling is his speed.
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Massive effort if he does. 4 weeks ago was in hospital.
WCE would have pencilled him in I reckon, will be really interesting come draft day to see what they do. Do they risk it on a guy that may slip to 2nd round. Will he be able to play at the level he could over the past 2 years?
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Gaff. Has been my pick from day 1. Atley close behind. We need a quality mid its as simple as that
Gaff dosent have the body too lanky
Too lanky?
Gaff listed at 183cm, 78kg.
Atley 187, Caddy 186, Polec 188, Heppell 187, Smith 189.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100040/default.aspx
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/101097/default.aspx
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If we could get pick 15-19 for McGuane / Rance, then we should try and snare him with that pick. Freo have pick 20 ;)
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Gaff. Has been my pick from day 1. Atley close behind. We need a quality mid its as simple as that
Gaff dosent have the body too lanky
Too lanky?
Gaff listed at 183cm, 78kg.
Atley 187, Caddy 186, Polec 188, Heppell 187, Smith 189.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100040/default.aspx
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/101097/default.aspx
Yeh lanky from the video, Surely Darling is a better pick
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Atley for me.
Falls under the best available player.
- Atley is bigger than Gaff, just seemed a bit harder at the contest IMO.
- Darling a KP forward looks the goods for mine, great size. Do we want to use a pick 6 on a KP Forward that will be fighting for spots with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Taylor, Post?
- Smith, Polec, Heppell and Smith if you can try and predict the future will be great players but I think Atley is a sure bet IMO.
We can't lose all will be gun's of the comp, Atley has that little bit of star quality about him. Gaff does as well I think Atley's body has him just edging out Gaff. I'd be interested in his numbers at the combine.
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190cm is to small for a key forward. Darling would probably work as the third tall in AFL ranks
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Who do we take it atley and heppell are taken 4 and 5?
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I would take Gorringe if he was available at 6.
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190cm is to small for a key forward. Darling would probably work as the third tall in AFL ranks
Is he only 190 Ramps? Ge he looks bigger, he throws his weight around, has an ice kick on him.
I'd have Atley and Gaff ahead of him. With his latest injuries he may slide to outside first round, could be a steal
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We get one of Atley, Gorringe and Heppell. Oh no! ;)
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do RFC need another ruckman with our pick 6?
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do RFC need another ruckman with our pick 6?
Sure dont!!! we need a another goal kicker
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but, what every hardwick wants is the best for the club.. im going to out my trust in him :thumbsup :gotigers
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Dyson Heppell (Gippsland Power, Vic)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 14/05/92
Skilful left-footed medium defender with penetrating kick, strength overhead and clean hands. Was outstanding for Vic Country in the under-18 championships, winning MVP and All-Australian honours. Averaged 20 disposals at 75 per cent efficiency and four tackles.
Shaun Atley (Murray Bushrangers, Vic)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 13/09/92
Exceptionally agile player with great speed and endurance and twice runner-up in state hurdles, which highlights his athletic ability. All-Australian team member in the 2010 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, where he averaged 19 disposals and six tackles.
Daniel Gorringe (Norwood, SA)
Height: 200cm, Weight: 92kg, DOB: 02/06/92
Gifted in the art of ruck work and a very athletic player who is strong overhead and dangerous near goal. Won All-Australian under-18 honours in 2010 averaging 21 hit-outs and 10 disposals.
other options
Jared Polec (Woodville West Torrens, SA)
Height: 188cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 12/10/92
Left-footed long-kicking player who excelled in 2010 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships winning All-Australian honours. Has pace and composure around goal with impressive form at senior level in the SANFL.
Andrew Gaff (Oakleigh Chargers, Vic)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 16/06/92
Left-footer with a terrific game sense; imposes himself on games and has good pace and endurance combination. All-Australian team member in the 2010 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, where he averaged 27 disposals at 79 per cent efficiency.
Josh Caddy (Northern Knights, Vic)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 81kg, DOB:28/09/92
Powerful player who wins clearances and contested marks and a dangerous forward who attacks the ball aggressively. All-Australian team member in the 2010 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, where he averaged 24 possessions (11 contested) and seven clearances
Brodie Smith (Woodville-West Torrens, SA)
Height: 189cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 14/01/92
Medium defender/midfielder with a terrific speed-endurance combination. Powerful player who bursts from stoppages and wins plenty of the footy. Starred in the under-18 championships with All-Australian honours, and averaged 22 disposals, five clearances and six inside 50s.
trust in hardwik and co...
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Darling is attending the Draft Combine (formerly the Draft Camp).
So too are Jared Polec and Brodie Smith. While Sam Day and Daniel Gorringe who still have finals will arrive for a day for interviews with clubs and to have psycho-motor and psychological testing.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/injury-wont-keep-darling-from-draft-camp-20100927-15u33.html
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More from DeepThroat on BF:
FJ has been keeping tabs on him since under 16's, that's Heppel that's who they want and thought they had him done and dusted with pick 6 until his 40 possies in the semi final, now the suns look likely to pick him up at 5 if he is not gone by 4, though there dilemma is Gaff, the Suns are desperate for him. Lynch is the other player we want if heppel is gone
at the moment it's line ball with which one they will go for if they had the choice, lynches engine is the key, his
beep test at the combine might be the convincing factor.
Because players like heppel who played state football under 16's, are invited to train amongst all the afl clubs. Each club nominates a player of choice, I think we have drafted some other players who have trained with us. On heppel though we were happy just to be left on the hbf where he was regarded highly but not a top 10 player, FJ saw him dominate in the state side in the under 16's where dominated the midfield which is where his natural position is, then last year for vic country he was put on hbf and was left there in the TAC Cup right up until finals this year where he dominated again. I don't think a) they thought he would be played there and b) if he did play there they didn't think he would dominate like he did, just a chance for us to watch him again if it occurred.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19159361&postcount=773
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I want them all. They sound better than half our list. Imagine being a Gold Coast supporter, you'd be creaming your warrick cappers.
Have they signed any forwards yet? Who is going to kick their goals in Round 1? Sam Day? Wouldn't be surprised if they took the next best KPF at #5.
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They have Dixon who has shown promise at VFL level and Steven May who was a NT zone selection as there potential key forward targets. Both have body's ready for AFL next year but by no means are they "sure things". I'd suspect they might take another forward target at their pick 5 as the best talls after Day are Gorringe and Lynch but after that there is a fair drop in quality.
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Gaff!
:)
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They need KPD's badly, come on GC Bums come knocking
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They have Dixon who has shown promise at VFL level and Steven May who was a NT zone selection as there potential key forward targets. Both have body's ready for AFL next year but by no means are they "sure things". I'd suspect they might take another forward target at their pick 5 as the best talls after Day are Gorringe and Lynch but after that there is a fair drop in quality.
I suspect RFC leaking they are interested in taking Lynch and also being linked to Gorringe is a ploy to force GC's hand
It'll be interesting to see what WCE do at #4, I still reckon they will take Darling
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They have Dixon who has shown promise at VFL level and Steven May who was a NT zone selection as there potential key forward targets. Both have body's ready for AFL next year but by no means are they "sure things". I'd suspect they might take another forward target at their pick 5 as the best talls after Day are Gorringe and Lynch but after that there is a fair drop in quality.
TAC Cup Grand Final: Cannons go Back to Back
Sun, 19/09/2010 - 20:31 — Robbo
Calder Cannons 5.2 9.7 16.11 17.14 (116)
Gippsland Power 2.1 5.4 7.5 8.10 (58)
GOALS:
Calder Cannons: Mitchell 5 Kefford 3 Schroder 2 Meli 2 Sullivan Prestia Grenfell Murphy Sheridan
Gippsland Power: Marusic 2 Lamb 2 Hector Smith Northe MacDonald
BEST:
Calder Cannons: Wallis Mitchell Prestia Guthrie Kefford Schroder
Gippsland Power: Ross Northe Todd Smith Marusic Staley
67 Lucas Cook (North Ballarat Rebels, Vic) 194, 82, 03/03/92 Tall forward to reads the game well and has sure hands. Mobile player who can go back; makes good decisions. All Aust U18's in 2010.
73 Luke Mitchell (Calder Cannons, Vic) 196, 96, 28/02/92 Tall Forward / Defender with strong contested marking ability. Dangerous around goals and presents well on the lead. Missed AFL U18s due to shoulder surgery but now back in TAC Cup.
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Gaff!
:)
draft camp 20m sprint
2.88sec
. He might go to eagles at four. I would be content to see gaff at Richmond with six
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Gaff!
:)
draft camp 20m sprint
2.88sec
. He might go to eagles at four. I would be content to see gaff at Richmond with six
According to the AFL site Gaff will go either pick 4 (WCE) or 5 (GC). They are saying Richmond has got no chance to get him at pick 6.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103430/default.aspx
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They have Dixon who has shown promise at VFL level and Steven May who was a NT zone selection as there potential key forward targets. Both have body's ready for AFL next year but by no means are they "sure things". I'd suspect they might take another forward target at their pick 5 as the best talls after Day are Gorringe and Lynch but after that there is a fair drop in quality.
I suspect RFC leaking they are interested in taking Lynch and also being linked to Gorringe is a ploy to force GC's hand
It'll be interesting to see what WCE do at #4, I still reckon they will take Darling
yeah i agree, i think with ablett now confirmed they will likely take a KP at 5. If available I hope we take Darling, just very impressed with him, got impact player written all over him. If hes taken, either one of Heppel/Gorringe will suffice.
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I've posted the Draft Camp/combine results here as well as in the Draft Camp thread:
20 Metre Sprint - Top 10
Position Name Result (seconds)
1 Joel Wilkinson 2.75 (record)
2 Brad Harvey 2.78
3 Nathan Batley 2.81
4 Daniel Farmer 2.83
5 Ryan Brabazon 2.84
6 Shane Kersten 2.88
7 Gerald Ugle 2.88
8 Andrew Gaff 2.88
9 Angus Litherland 2.89
10 Billie Smedts 2.91
Agility Run - Top 10
Position Name Result (seconds)
1 Billie Smedts 7.90
2 Dion Prestia 8.00
3 Viv Michie 8.01
4 Aaron Mullett 8.03
5 Ryan Brabazon 8.04
6 Josh Green 8.07
7 Mitchell Wallis 8.07
8 Jacob Gilbee 8.10
9 Daniel Farmer 8.13
10 Jayden Pitt 8.15
Running Vertical Jump - Top 10
Position Name Result (cms)
1 Kieran Harper 88
2 Brad Harvey 88
3 Dyson Heppell 86
4 Ben Jacobs 84
5 Joel Wilkinson 84
6 Cameron Guthrie 83
7 Jake Batchelor 82
8 Rohan Bewick 82
9 Ryan Brabazon 82
10 Cameron Johnston 82
Standing Vertical Jump - Top 10
Position Name Result (cms)
1 Brad Harvey 75
2 Nathan Batley 71
3 Anton Hamp 71
4 Joel Wilkinson 66
5 Kieran Harper 65
6 Cameron Guthrie 65
7 Shaun Atley 64
8 Dyson Heppell 64
9 Seb Tape 63
10 Billie Smedts 63
Height - Top 10
Position Name Height (cms)
1 Leif Cope 204.6
2 John Ceglar 203.1
3 Tom Hickey 201.4
4 Andrew Phillips 200.9
5 Ben Mabon 200.1
6 Callum Sinclair 199.5
7 Matt Jones 199.5
8 Tom Lynch 199.1
9 Brandyn Grenfell 198.6
10 Luke Mitchell 198.0
Arm Span - Top 10
Position Name Result (cms)
1 Leif Cope 92.1
2 Tom Hickey 92.0
3 Callum Sinclair 91.0
4 Brandyn Grenfell 90.4
5 John Ceglar 89.5
6 Nic Murphy 89.2
7 Andrew Phillips 89.1
8 Todd Elton 89.1
9 Tom Lynch 88.2
10 Zac Fitzgerald 88.5
Hand Span - Top 10
Position Name Result (cms)
1 Leif Cope 25.8
2 Tom Hickey 24.9
3 Callum Sinclair 23.0
4 Brandyn Grenfell 22.8
5 John Ceglar 26.4
6 Nic Murphy 23.9
7 Andrew Phillips 24.3
8 Todd Elton 23.3
9 Tom Lynch 25.0
10 Zac Fitzgerald 25.0
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They need KPD's badly, come on GC Bums come knocking
Very interesting the statements coming from GC.
Prepared to use an early pick for Brennan, ie pick 15 or better.
Want a first round pick for Andy krak.
Now saying they are more chance to use low picks for key forwards.
Smells suspiciously like we may be playing hardball for a good first round pick for Mcguane.
That Thursfield is now on the market makes McGuane more valuable to us and raises his value.
Keep your nerve Cameron.
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Repeat speed test, 6 x 30m, thanks to Emma Quayle
Joel Wilkinson 23.40 seconds
Brad Harvey 23.45
Shaun Atley 23.69
Keiren Harper 23.84
Dion Prestia 24.15
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Here's the Kick and Handball test results:
Kicking Assessment - Top 10
Position Name Score Efficiency %
1 Jed Lamb 29/30 97
2 Aaron Young 26/30 87
3 Tom Liberatore 25/30 83
4 Gerald Ugle 24/30 80
5 Ben Jacobs 24/30 65
6 Nick Murphy 23/30 65
7 Billie Smedts 23/30 64
8 Tom Gordon 23/30 64
9 Lucas Cook 23/30 63
10 Callum Sinclair 23/30 63
Clean Hands Test - Top 10
Position Name Score Efficiency %
1 Josh Caddy 28/30 93
2 Dyson Heppell 28/30 93
3 Mitch Wallis 27/30 90
4 Josh Farmer 27/30 90
5 Jarryd Lyons 27/30 90
6 Tom Hickey 27/30 90
7 Jai Sheehan 27/30 90
=8 Ben Reid 26/30 87
=8 Alex Fasalo 26/30 87
=8 Jamie Cripps 26/30 87
=8 Joel Wilkinson 26/30 87
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16674/Default.aspx
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Beep Test (from BF)
Hector 15.8
Gaff 15.3
Gilbee 15.1
Lynch 14.8
Gaff looks like going pick 4 now.
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Heppel could be #5
2.998 in to 20m sprint
86cm in the running vertical jump (3rd)
64cm in the vertical jump (7th)
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Tom Lynch getting 4th is a fair effort for a bloke who is 199cm+
Sposed to move/run like a mid. white frankin? could be best KPP ahead day... ?
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Heppell also 6th in the best test today
Beep test/shuttle run - top 10
Position Name Level Shuttle
1 Hayden Hector 15 7 (record)
2 Andrew Gaff 15 3
3 Joel Wilkinson 15 3
4 Jacob Gilbee 15 1
5 Ryan Brabazon 15 1
6 Dyson Heppell 14 13
7 Cameron O'Shea 14 10
8 Josh Caddy 14 9
9 Rohan Bewick 14 7
10 Ryan Lester 14 6
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16674/Default.aspx
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Tom Lynch getting 4th is a fair effort for a bloke who is 199cm+
Sposed to move/run like a mid. white frankin? could be best KPP ahead day... ?
He's very slow over the first 5 meters though which is pretty important for a key forward
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Gee I watched Atley's reel and he really is awesome in the tight packs, just breaks tackles and dances through em. I like him a lot, nice turn of toe...
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Poll on the RFC website:
What type of player should we draft with the #6 Draft pick?
Back 33%
Midfield 26%
Forward 25%
Ruck 15%
401 votes
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Emma Quayle is saying tonight Darling or Polec may go at pick 4.
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Gaff won the 3km time trial at the Draft Camp
3km time trial - top 10
Position Name Result (mins:secs)
1 Andrew Gaff 10:00
2 Cameron O'Shea 10:03
3 Hayden Hector 10:04
4 Jamie Cripps 10:15
5 Jack Newnes 10:16
6 Rohan Bewick 10:18
7 Joel Wilkinson 10:26
8 Josh Caddy 10:33
9 Ariel Steinberg 10:33
10 Lucas Cook 10:34
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There saying on the Draft Combine wrap up that Polec is likely to go to us at 6 with Atley to GC at 5 and Gaff to WC at 4. Suggested Heppell wouldn't go until 8+ :-\
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There saying on the Draft Combine wrap up that Polec is likely to go to us at 6 with Atley to GC at 5 and Gaff to WC at 4. Suggested Heppell wouldn't go until 8+ :-\
Darling? :whistle
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Paul Daffy's Predicted Top 10
From Total Access:
1. GC - David Swallow
2. GC - Harley Bennell
3. GC - Sam Day
4. WC - Andrew Gaff
5. GC - Shaun Atley
6. Rich - Jared Polec
7. GC - Josh Caddy
8. Ess - Daniel Gorringe
9. GC - Dyson Heppell
10. Bris - Scott Lycett
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Hope the tigers get Jack Darling!! He goes back and farward and his quick.
If not it would have to be Polec.
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Paul Daffy's Predicted Top 10
From Total Access:
1. GC - David Swallow
2. GC - Harley Bennell
3. GC - Sam Day
4. WC - Andrew Gaff
5. GC - Shaun Atley
6. Rich - Jared Polec
7. GC - Josh Caddy
8. Ess - Daniel Gorringe
9. GC - Dyson Heppell
10. Bris - Scott Lycett
How is he rated better then Heppell ... and what about Darling ??? .. and whos Polec , havent we had enough peopel with teh names starting with Pol 8)
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Guy from South Australia. I don't like him.
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Guy from South Australia. I don't like him.
yerr cant we get Heppel insted cause he is a 8 pick ?
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Darling may 'slide' out of the top 10.
This is why it'd be great to have more picks inside the top 20 or 30. highly rated kids pls...
polec is a winger from south aust. who is doin well in the SanFL for a 17 yo.
19 Sep 2009
SANFL Eagle, 16, is all class
It hasn't taken long for Jared Polec to turn heads at Henley High School. "The assistant principal has a poster of me in her office," Polec said.
The reason? Polec, studying Year 11, is not only excelling in the classroom but on the football field, playing for SANFL club Woodville-West Torrens.
At just 16, Polec has joined the likes of Lindsay Head (West Torrens), Gavin Wanganeen (Port Magpies) and Mark Ricciuto (West Adelaide) in making his league debut before his 17th birthday.
"'I've found a few fans I've never seen before come up to me at shopping centres and I've had teachers come up to me congratulating me," said Polec, who weighs just 75 kg.
"It was quite intimidating at first but once the ball gets going you get used to it. A knock or two doesn't keep you down, so it's all good."
Polec set AAMI Stadium alight in helping his Eagles beat North Adelaide in last weekend's elimination final, an admirable effort considering he's juggling training three nights a week while trying to finish school assignments.
"I don't think he'll be doing too much homework," Eagles coach Ron Fuller joked. "He's that sort of player who takes the next step easily - he takes it all in his stride. Our stance has always been 'good enough is old enough'."
Last night named to play in the Eagles' first semi-final side against Sturt at AAMI Stadium on Sunday, Polec has been able to mix his football with school by studying the sport as one of his subjects.
"It's great. I really enjoy it," he said.
"The practicals are going really well and the theory too. It's been my dream since I was a little kid to play AFL and follow a couple of heroes of mine like Gavin Wanganeen and Gary Ablett."
Playing AFL will have to wait a season until Polec becomes eligible. But until then he can draw from the internal competition stemming from his twin brother Daniel, who has been playing in the Eagles' reserves.
"He's coming through the ranks . . . we're always helping each other out, giving each other tips," Polec said.
"We're always in competition no matter what it is from (school) grades to sport. It's always good to have that little push."
http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/club_news/page_2/167/
At this stage I leaning towardstaking a Victorian mid @ 6; Heppell, Gaff, Atley.
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THIS IS CRAPOLA :banghead Why cant we choose Lynch, Darling or Heppel when there in Later picks. Surely its not assigned which is how you guys are talking dont GC go first for a pick all teh way to richmond is 6th in line to choose ANY player that hasent been taken yet? ... please help me out on understanding how this works if it dosent work liek that ^^ :help
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THIS IS CRAPOLA :banghead Why cant we choose Lynch, Darling or Heppel when there in Later picks. Surely its not assigned which is how you guys are talking dont GC go first for a pick all teh way to richmond is 6th in line to choose ANY player that hasent been taken yet? ... please help me out on understanding how this works if it dosent work liek that ^^ :help
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GC have picks 1-3 and are going to take Swallow, Day, Bennel people seem to be sayng.
WCE pick #4, GC pick #5
Richmond then choose the best player the think is left in the draft pool come #6.
if we choose Heppel (or Gaff/Atley), then chances are Darling and Lynch will have been drafted to other clubs before our 2nd natonal draft pick. unless we trade for higher picks.
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THIS IS CRAPOLA :banghead Why cant we choose Lynch, Darling or Heppel when there in Later picks. Surely its not assigned which is how you guys are talking dont GC go first for a pick all teh way to richmond is 6th in line to choose ANY player that hasent been taken yet? ... please help me out on understanding how this works if it dosent work liek that ^^ :help
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GC have picks 1-3 and are going to take Swallow, Day, Bennel people seem to be sayng.
WCE pick #4, GC pick #5
Richmond then choose the best player the think is left in the draft pool come #6.
if we choose Heppel (or Gaff/Atley), then chances are Darling and Lynch will have been drafted to other clubs before our 2nd natonal draft pick. unless we trade for higher picks.
Okay so why have Polec in a Post if were most likely not going to get him? GCwill get GAFF at pick 5 and we will most likely get Atley either one will doo 8)
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It's just one of the guys from the AFL website. It's a phantom draft. What he THINKS the order will be.
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From BF's DeepThroat:
Finally pick 4 is off as Gaff is there man and after interviewing him they realise what a professional he is and can see him being at the club as a one club player, we are no longer interested in pick 4 as it is more likely now that Heppel will be available at pick 6, if we can snare a pick in the top 20 then players like Gorringe Lynch Jacobs Smith might still be available, we see this draft as good as setting us up as much as the suns, pick 9 has gone to the lions for Brennen hopefully we make a play for it.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19222094&postcount=241
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Paul Daffey's first round from the AFL site.....
1. David Swallow
2. Harley Bennell
3. Sam Day
4. Andrew Gaff
5. Dyson Heppell
6. Jared Polec
7. Josh Caddy
8. Daniel Gorringe
9. Tom Lynch
10. Shaun Atley
11. Billie Smedts
12. Kieran Harper
13. Brodie Smith
14. Ben Jacobs
15. Pat McCarthy
16. Scott Lycett
17. Jed Lamb
18. Jack Darling
19. Seb Tape
20. Cameron Guthrie
21. Luke Parker
22. Tom Liberatore
23. Mitch Hallahan
24. Pat Karnezis
25. Jamie Cripps
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103717/default.aspx
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my mail from the draft camp is Heppell is the one everyone wants.
he was the standout :shh :thumbsup ;) ;)
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if gaff and heppell go 4 and 5 who is next best option for us?
Josh Caddy?
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if gaff and heppell go 4 and 5 who is next best option for us?
Josh Caddy?
A crap player is what ....
EFF THE GOLD COAST BUMS :banghead
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Caddy is NOT a bad player.
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Caddy is NOT a bad player.
Is he Average cause im sick of Average players being linked to us
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He wouldn't be at #7 in the phantom draft if he was average.
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Caddy is NOT a bad player.
Is he Average cause im sick of Average players being linked to us
Do you have anything to back up your claims or are you just running your mouth about things you know nothing about?
Caddy will be a very good player, the closest type of midfielder to Dustin Martin in this draft, but probably more of a Cunnington type
If Heppell is gone and that's the man we want then I have no problem with taking Caddy instead
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Watching his highlights reel from a game at the championships he got a lot of the ball but just blazes away a lot as well. i dont think he found a team mate with one kick. I understand it is only one game but still a concern.
Thought that polec looked more impressive, particulary the final in the SANFL, even allowing for him being tagged out of the game in the second half.
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if gaff and heppell go 4 and 5 who is next best option for us?
Josh Caddy?
Darling, as long as there are no long term neurological/ankle risks.
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Caddy is NOT a bad player.
Is he Average cause im sick of Average players being linked to us
Do you have anything to back up your claims or are you just running your mouth about things you know nothing about?
Caddy will be a very good player, the closest type of midfielder to Dustin Martin in this draft, but probably more of a Cunnington type
If Heppell is gone and that's the man we want then I have no problem with taking Caddy instead
I watched the videos of this guy and to me he looks AVERAGE compared to the other names thank you very much
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who would you rather
polec?
Atley?
Caddy is NOT a bad player.
Is he Average cause im sick of Average players being linked to us
Do you have anything to back up your claims or are you just running your mouth about things you know nothing about?
Caddy will be a very good player, the closest type of midfielder to Dustin Martin in this draft, but probably more of a Cunnington type
If Heppell is gone and that's the man we want then I have no problem with taking Caddy instead
I watched the videos of this guy and to me he looks AVERAGE compared to the other names thank you very much
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I would Rather Ately, but Polec dose play a bit of mid and fwd so wouldnt be bad for us. There kicks need to be a bit more direct but that can be worked on in teh Club.
And do we need another Dustin Martin? i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel and and is built so wouldnt be worried about him getting pushed of the ball in AFL liek most young players.
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Caddy is NOT a bad player.
Is he Average cause im sick of Average players being linked to us
Do you have anything to back up your claims or are you just running your mouth about things you know nothing about?
Caddy will be a very good player, the closest type of midfielder to Dustin Martin in this draft, but probably more of a Cunnington type
If Heppell is gone and that's the man we want then I have no problem with taking Caddy instead
I watched the videos of this guy and to me he looks AVERAGE compared to the other names thank you very much
So you're basing your entire junior recruiting knowledge off a 5min clip on Youtube?
I figured as much, now I know I can ignore your opinion
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
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Shaun Atley
– AIS scholarship holder. Midfielder/flanker who has great fitness and speed. Uses the ball well and is clean with his hands.
Strengths:
- Loves tackling
- Loves the contested side of the game
- Quick and agile
- Leadership
- Very competitive
- Good descion making/vision
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Shaun Atley
– AIS scholarship holder. Midfielder/flanker who has great fitness and speed. Uses the ball well and is clean with his hands.
Strengths:
- Loves tackling
- Loves the contested side of the game
- Quick and agile
- Leadership
- Very competitive
- Good descion making/vision
Loves tackling........... just about does it for me, but like the trade week, who knows.
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
Just take a few more seconds to read what you've typed before you hit post. It's tackle by the way
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
Just take a few more seconds to read what you've typed before you hit post. It's tackle by the way
Crap ! im bad at typing ... thanks for being so supportive of my spelling through out this fourm guys, but can you guys tell me a fourm website were they talk about the Richmond Tigers not www.wegiveyoucrap.com.au/weredickheads
Thanks would be much appreciated :thumbsup
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
I can't resist...
That would be a strong tackle (not tackel)
:lol
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Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
Here's a comment: get a life. I was only having some fun with your Freudian slip - the 3 Strang boys were well known for their hardness at the ball. Before you start calling people "complete and total dick heads" you might want to proof read your posts before hitting the button - might save yourself from being just that.
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i woudl go Atley cause he has a strang Tackel
Not too many on here would remember how well the Strang boys tackled - I'm impressed with your research and depth of your knowledge TTID! :whistle
Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
Just take a few more seconds to read what you've typed before you hit post. It's tackle by the way
Crap ! im bad at typing ... thanks for being so supportive of my spelling through out this fourm guys, but can you guys tell me a fourm website were they talk about the Richmond Tigers not www.wegiveyoucrap.com.au/wereidiots
Thanks would be much appreciated :thumbsup
So the link is to do with people who were idiots, but now aren't?
:)
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Sorry, "Strong Tackel" and you can choose to not listen to my opinon just dont comment on them.. saves you guys from being complete and total dick heads and makes people not want to be on this fourm.
Here's a comment: get a life. I was only having some fun with your Freudian slip - the 3 Strang boys were well known for their hardness at the ball. Before you start calling people "complete and totatl dick heads" you might want to proof read your posts before hitting the button - might save yourself from being just that.
totatl? haha see we all do it some times some more often than others
End of topic!! can we please just stop becuase im sick of this Key Board warrior crap
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now we have 3 decent picks in the national draft.
i wonder what players we will target with 2nd / 3rd selections
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now we have 3 decent picks in the national draft.
i wonder what players we will target with 2nd / 3rd selections
grigg, houli? :shh
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now we have 3 decent picks in the national draft.
i wonder what players we will target with 2nd / 3rd selections
grigg, houli? :shh
Both want them too stay somthing feirce
Houli for me :thumbsup maby both ?
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now we have 3 decent picks in the national draft.
i wonder what players we will target with 2nd / 3rd selections
grigg, houli? :shh
Both want them too stay somthing feirce
Houli for me :thumbsup maby both ?
That would be "fierce" and "maybe".
:lol
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'i' before 'e' except after 'c' . Didn't you kids watch Sesame street?
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'i' before 'e' except after 'c' . Didn't you kids watch Sesame street?
The Count was my favourite :thumbsup
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Heppell probably to Brisbane with Pick 5 now.
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Heppell probably to Brisbane with Pick 5 now.
atley might be our man then
we can offer big money to gaff
and heppel a couple years down the track to get them back to melbourne ..
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Heppell probably to Brisbane with Pick 5 now.
Yep Brisbane now having pick 5 puts a spanner in the works. GC would've gone tall you after taking two mids in the top 3. Lions will go mid now you'd reckon.
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C'mon Vossy, do something totally stupid again!!
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Emma Quayle thinks Brisbane may select Polec at #5.
http://twitter.com/emmasq
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Emma Quayle thinks Brisbane may select Polec at #5.
http://twitter.com/emmasq
Heppel to us then? :pray.. but i can settle with Atley :rollin
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Kieran Harper looks like he can play.
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According to today's Adelaide Advertiser.....
Essendon has upset the running order for next month's AFL national draft by yesterday making a major sales pitch to Norwood ruckman Daniel Gorringe rather than a midfielder.
Bombers first pick is at 8.
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Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan rates this draft up there with 2001 according to Trade Week radio. Still plenty of good kids will be available in the 2nd round (40s/50s) of the draft.
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According to today's Adelaide Advertiser.....
Essendon has upset the running order for next month's AFL national draft by yesterday making a major sales pitch to Norwood ruckman Daniel Gorringe rather than a midfielder.
Bombers first pick is at 8.
Are the bombers maybe looking to trade Ryder or another tall? They have plenty of them, most of them no good though.
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Are the bombers maybe looking to trade Ryder or another tall? They have plenty of them, most of them no good though.
There were whispers about Essendon trading Hooker but that's gone quiet today. Maybe they want to push Ryder forward given Neagle is a spud and Gumby injury prone. Allow Hille and Gorringe to ruck if they get Gorringe. I would've thought though that GC will grab him with either picks 5 or 7. Hell we could even select him if FJ thinks he is best available at our pick.
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Another DeepThroat post from BF.....
One thing is for sure Brisbane has thrown a spanner in the works with getting pick 5, Heppel looks like there target, Josh caddy looks like he has impressed our recruiters at the combine and looks very likely to be picked up by us if heppel is gone.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19309203&postcount=512
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Is it "set in stone?"
Swallow, Brennell, Day - CG
Pick 4 - Gaff?
Pick 5, Brisbane - ?
Pick 6, Richmond ???
Who are we wanting?
this is tough, because there is nothing "set in stone" after Pick 3!
:gotigers
Must get a great skilled, tough, quick, built, hard-running Midfielder!
:gotigers
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Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
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Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
Would have to think it is unlikely especially after the combine where he displayed elite speed and endurance. Think Heppel or Caddy are looking more likely now would prefer Heppel as an outside midfielder/ Half bank flanker hopefully releasing lids into the midfield or on the wing.
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Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
Would have to think it is unlikely especially after the combine where he displayed elite speed and endurance. Think Heppel or Caddy are looking more likely now would prefer Heppel as an outside midfielder/ Half bank flanker hopefully releasing lids into the midfield or on the wing.
I have to be honest here - I don't want Lids in the midfield or wing. I reckon he is making a cracking go of half back and is fast approaching Luke Hodge status - give me that all day.
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Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
Would have to think it is unlikely especially after the combine where he displayed elite speed and endurance. Think Heppel or Caddy are looking more likely now would prefer Heppel as an outside midfielder/ Half bank flanker hopefully releasing lids into the midfield or on the wing.
I have to be honest here - I don't want Lids in the midfield or wing. I reckon he is making a cracking go of half back and is fast approaching Luke Hodge status - give me that all day.
spot on, is in the best 20-30 players in the comp on form in 2010... and he'll be even better next season with the side expected to be more competitive as well as being allowed to play in the same position for the 2nd year running :o
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Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
Would have to think it is unlikely especially after the combine where he displayed elite speed and endurance. Think Heppel or Caddy are looking more likely now would prefer Heppel as an outside midfielder/ Half bank flanker hopefully releasing lids into the midfield or on the wing.
I have to be honest here - I don't want Lids in the midfield or wing. I reckon he is making a cracking go of half back and is fast approaching Luke Hodge status - give me that all day.
Any chance Gaff will be there at pick 6?
Would have to think it is unlikely especially after the combine where he displayed elite speed and endurance. Think Heppel or Caddy are looking more likely now would prefer Heppel as an outside midfielder/ Half bank flanker hopefully releasing lids into the midfield or on the wing.
I have to be honest here - I don't want Lids in the midfield or wing. I reckon he is making a cracking go of half back and is fast approaching Luke Hodge status - give me that all day.
spot on, is in the best 20-30 players in the comp on form in 2010... and he'll be even better next season with the side expected to be more competitive as well as being allowed to play in the same position for the 2nd year running :o
I certainly see your point but i still believe his best value to the team would be as a goal kicking midfielder who can float forward or back. Lids certainly had his best season this year playing across the back line no doubt, but for us going forward we need his class through the midfield. The Luke Hodge and Brendan Goddard comparisons are intersting but where did these guys play this year... in the midfield. Guys like this (and lids) struggled with tags in the midfield as youngsters so were moved back to free them up (maybe not so much in Hodge's case), but ultimately the team saw their greatest value as midfielders. I also feel that teams are going to become more adept at nullifying the impact or these attacking backmen. Not saying lids is goddard or hodge, and i do feel safer with him patrolling the backline, but to become elite i want him winning matches and kicking goals :thumbsup
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Poster tigs2010 on BF is claiming we will take a Vic midfielder at pick 6 and that it won't be Atley, Heppell or Gaff even if available. Day would be taken if available but no chance whatsoever.
This is at odds to all the rumours saying Francis Jackson is keen on Heppell.
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If this is the case i could only guess Caddy???
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If this is the case i could only guess Caddy???
Caddy seems the obvious one but the same BF poster is suggesting Kieran Harper and Jayden Pitt also fit the criteria. Hard to see either of those two going top 6 though ???.
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It'll be Heppell if available no doubt, but he will be gone so Caddy or Harper is my guess. Harper if it supposed to be a "surprise" selection. I think he's the smokey.
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Harpers video looks impressive I must say.
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Harpers video looks impressive I must say.
Kieran Harper looks amazing
Great tackel
Direct Kick of the footy
Stong mark
and great skills
PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! :thumbsup :gotigers
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Harpers video looks impressive I must say.
Kieran Harper looks amazing
Great tackel
Direct Kick of the footy
Stong mark
and great skills
PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! :thumbsup :gotigers
rihmond supporter to, so that won't do his chances any harm at all :shh
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Harpers video looks impressive I must say.
Kieran Harper looks amazing
Great tackel
Direct Kick of the footy
Stong mark
and great skills
PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! PICK NUMER 6 ! :thumbsup :gotigers
rihmond supporter to, so that won't do his chances any harm at all :shh
How do u know that?
Bet he preformed well in front of Dimma and crew :thumbsup
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mentions he is a tiger supporter here champ
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102180/default.aspx
that highlight tape against wa is massively impressive. I have read that consistency is his major query, but outside mids/forwards can struggle at times. Lot of upside though, nice height, smart and skillful. Would not be upset if ends up at pick six, Jayden Pitt would be a stretch surely...
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Harper dominated last year as an underaged kid in the U18s but he had hip surgury prior to this year so was never 100% fit
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i like this harper kid
he is like a much better version of andy collins
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Massive, massive upgrade on Collo & White
I'd be very happy with him
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Massive, massive upgrade on Collo & White
I'd be very happy with him
maybe thats why they gave up collins when the blues asked about him, as they know they will pick up a better kid who can play his role
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Emma Quayle's initial views on this year's National draft.....
Will Sam day go to the Gold coast at pick 1,2,3? Is there any truth to the rumour of him not being prepared to go to any clubs that are not in South Australia or Victoria?
Gold Coast will pick David Swallow, Harley Bennell and Day with the first three picks.
Where do you think Polec and Smith will go?
Polec would be in the mix for West Coast and for Brisbane. I think both are a big chance. If that doesn’t happen, I can’t see him falling outside the top 10 at this stage. Smith will be in the mix for a few of the top 10 clubs too (Brisbane, Richmond, Essendon) but when you throw Dyson Heppell, Shaun Atley, Josh Caddy and Prestia in, there are plenty of midfielders for them to choose from. A couple have to fall outside the 10. But once again….. I need more time! Get back to me a couple weeks out from the draft. Now that trade week is ending, the recruiters will all start doing more work on their draft lists.
The Slider v The Bolter - Regarding Jack Darling, do you feel his height will restrict him holding down a key position and where she feels he may be drafted, and who might be interested?
Jayden Pitt could be the bolter this year as an underdeveloped player with a big upside ala JMP last year. What are her thoughts on him and could he become a top 10 proposition post Draft Camp?
I don’t think top 10 for Jayden – maybe top 20. He is a very smart and instinctive player though, not unlike Fyfe in that way. A natural.
Re Jack, it’s so hard to pick at this stage. Maybe Eagles would look at him, same with Brisbane, but I’m not convinced of either. Speaking to him at the draft camp, he was adamant that he could play midfield and seemed frustrated that he had been pigeon holed as an undersized key forward. That said, there are some offfield issues that concern people about Jack, and I’m sure he would have been grilled about them at the draft camp. He is obviously recovering from a head injury too – clubs would be going right through that information and making sure he’s going to make a full recovery before deciding whether to go for him or not.
How do you view the strength of this draft compared to 2008, both in terms of the elite talents and also the depth of the first 30-40 picks? How much has the Gold Coast's priority access to the nations under 18s before this year affected the quality of this draft?
I think he depth is fine, it’s easy to come up with 50 names that seem draftable, which is a good sign. I think the top three are standouts and then it evens out, but there are at least 20 names I’m convinced will play good senior footy, barring mishap. If the 17-year-olds that the Gold Coast signed were in this draft pool, it would be the best one I can remember, and I’m not exaggerating. Guys like Josh Toy, Maverick Weller, Luke Russell, Trent McKenzie and Brandon Matera would all be genuinely pushing for top 10 spots.
Who is the Biggest Smokey? Who has the Biggest Upside? Who is the Most Risky Prospect?
I think it’s fair to put Darling in the risky category. He may have gone top 3 had he been old enough for the draft last year, but clubs will be weighing up all those factors I mentioned above. He can absolutely play, though. I need a bit more think time on the smokey/upside – although Joel Wilkinson did extremely well in almost every test at the draft camp and, on top of all that, is a brilliant kid. Has only started playing footy in the last two years, captained Queensland this year and is studying to be an orthopedic surgeon (he considered neurosurgery!). During the national championships he didn’t seem to be on anyone’s radar, but I hope he gets an opportunity, even as a rookie.
Which players attitude to and preparation for football impresses you most from reports?
There were so many good kids at the draft camp. All so talkative. The only quiet one was Harley. I found Shaun Atley to be really impressive. Smart, level headed, independent. Dyson Heppell is very similar. Mitch Wallis will follow in his dad’s footsteps and captain the Doggies one day. But as I said, I did 15 interviews up there and all the boys were fantastic
In what order do you rate these midfielders in terms of potential and which ones are you the biggest fan of? Gaff, Atley, Smith, Polec, Caddy?
I like Atley, Polec, Gaff, Smith Caddy. But there is only a smidgeon between them – I really, really like all of them! As I mentioned, heaps of good midfielders in this draft!
Around where do you think Heppell will go in the draft?
Maybe Brisbane. If not, I think he will be gone inside 10 or just out.
Q. Who do you think will be available out of the gun mids at Essendon's first pick and who she thinks they’ll go for?
I think Polec will be gone, to either West Coast, Brisbane or Richmond. Gaff will probably be gone, and same with Heppell, but there’s a chance they will be there. I like Atley for the Bombers, or Prestia. But any one of those other boys could be there. They will have a choice, I can say that for sure. Get back to me closer to the draft!
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19312383&postcount=1
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i like this harper kid
he is like a much better version of andy collins
Yeah, watching that highlights package he reminded me of Collins to.
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i like this harper kid
he is like a much better version of andy collins
Yeah, watching that highlights package he reminded me of Collins to.
yep but a more polished version
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Don't forget to choose a kid with a lot of heart unlike some others we picked up cough tambling cough :rollin
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Highlights package of Harper does look good but i remember looking at highlights of Oakley-Nicholls and they were impressive as well. From what i have heard i would rather take one of the genuine midfielders (Heppell, Caddy, Polec, Gaff) than take a chance on a kid like Harper. If he was somehow available for our second pick i would snap him up but i guess the chances of that are very little.
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Highlights package of Harper does look good but i remember looking at highlights of Oakley-Nicholls and they were impressive as well. From what i have heard i would rather take one of the genuine midfielders (Heppell, Caddy, Polec, Gaff) than take a chance on a kid like Harper. If he was somehow available for our second pick i would snap him up but i guess the chances of that are very little.
Funny, I don't remember JONs highlights ever looking that good. I remember the brief ones I saw were edited before you saw where the ball ended up. They looked like they were all about to go down the throat on an opponent.
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Harper is the man. Genuine match winner like Didak and we dont have a player like him on the list.
Can't dispute he's a first round draft pick, so use it on him FJ.
Should be pushing 82-83kgs by the start of the 2011 season, just needs to build a tank. Quick, good off both feet and can kick 60m. stuffing perfect.
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doesnt harper have some injury concerns?
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doesnt harper have some injury concerns?
Had hip surgery at the start of the year
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Harps also missed rounds 4-12 for Eastern so not sure what the deal was there. Injured? School footy?
Pretty good volleyballer, I'd say that's where he gets his leap, which is elite.
Great at smothering kicks and handballs then retrieving his own crumbs.
Loves to dump blokes in the tackle - gives away some unnecessary free kicks.
Gets caught a bit with the footy, but always trying to move the ball on quickly to advantage.
Very neat and accurate set shot and excellent on the run from outside 50.
Actually reminds me a bit of Lids but not as quick and not as good a kick, but then he's not going pick #1 is he.
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Actually reminds me a bit of Lids but not as quick and not as good a kick, but then he's not going pick #1 is he.
Is he worth pick #6 GG?
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I would take Josh Caddy.
Tough inside midfielder who will win the contested football!
That is who Richmond need!
If Gaff is available, take Gaff, if not, Caddy is our man!
Caddy, head over football.
Vote 1 Joshua Caddy.
:gotigers
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I reckon he's worth a first round pick. Ours is #6. I'm no expert but i'm an expert at pumping up some random bloke's tyres every year and this year it's Harps :lol
He's got flaws no doubt about it but everyone outside of David Swallow does.
Blokes like Boak & Hill prove that you can reach for a player and nail it.
I say go for it.
What we dont need is another inside mid with questionable footskills like Caddy.
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Can he play midfield or Half back?
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Can he play midfield or Half back?
You'd think over time he'd build up enough of an engine to play midfield after his first few years as a half forward flank. Not sure why you'd want him to play down back, we have enough half back flankers as it is.
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True Infamy. I just keep thinking we can upgrade on Connors, unless he improves his decision making. ;D
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From what i understand caddy kicks goals And is a very handy forward pocket type, as well as inside mid
I would take Josh Caddy.
Tough inside midfielder who will win the contested football!
That is who Richmond need!
If Gaff is available, take Gaff, if not, Caddy is our man!
Caddy, head over football.
Vote 1 Joshua Caddy.
:gotigers
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True Infamy. I just keep thinking we can upgrade on Connors, unless he improves his decision making. ;D
I think we have bigger issues than upgrading Connors
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wasting the ball because you blaze away without thinking off half back is an big issue. If the kid can slot along side Delideo and show the same class that's worth pick 6 to me.
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You want Dyson Heppell then Al, he's the Goddard/Deledio HBF prototype.
Harps played midfield for Eastern this year.
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How much midfield did he play? There seems to be question mark over his consistency, but I wonder if this is because he gets plunked at HFF a bit? .
don't really mind if he's not the same mold as delideo, just a similar class.
Whats heppells disposal like?
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He had stints in the midfield in every game he played, certainly wasn't a ball magnet (likely due to fitness) and his best work was on a HFF where he could kick and set up goals.
There's heaps of footage of him here, he's got class:
http://rangesfc.matchvision.com.au/video/?video=437
Heppell can kick 60m off both feet and hit a bloke on the run without them breaking stride Deledio style but he wont make it to #6.
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He had stints in the midfield in every game he played, certainly wasn't a ball magnet (likely due to fitness) and his best work was on a HFF where he could kick and set up goals.
There's heaps of footage of him here, he's got class:
http://rangesfc.matchvision.com.au/video/?video=437
Heppell can kick 60m off both feet and hit a bloke on the run without them breaking stride Deledio style but he wont make it to #6.
Have to agree G.G. seems like gaff at 4 and heppell at 5 which is a shame because i would love either of these two at the tigers. Really unsure after that like the sound of Polec as i think we need some outside mid class atm and he seems to fit the bill but if the footy dept. thinks Harper can become a midfielder it sounds like he may be worth a punt. Still at pick 6 personally i wouldn't be taking any risk so he is behind heppel, gaff and polec in that order for me.
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He had stints in the midfield in every game he played, certainly wasn't a ball magnet (likely due to fitness) and his best work was on a HFF where he could kick and set up goals.
There's heaps of footage of him here, he's got class:
http://rangesfc.matchvision.com.au/video/?video=437
Heppell can kick 60m off both feet and hit a bloke on the run without them breaking stride Deledio style but he wont make it to #6.
He looks like a natural footballer doesn't he? Doesn't have that elite trajectory with his kicking but finds a team mate a lot and when he doesn't it will normally be to their advantage. Good judgment in the air too. Does look more of a hff/mid than a hbf/mid though.
Cheers for the link.
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Here's another draft resource website that's back and updated for 2010 after a couple years hiatus.
http://www.footydraft.com/
Here's there current mock draft top 10:
1. Gold Coast - David Swallow
2. Gold Coast - Harley Bennell
3. Gold Coast - Sam Day
4. West Coast - Andrew Gaff
5. Brisbane - Dyson Heppell
6. Richmond - Tom Lynch
7. Gold Coast - Shaun Atley
8. Essendon - Josh Caddy
9. Gold Coast - Daniel Gorringe
10. Gold Coast - Jared Polec
and here's some detailed profiles of some of the draftees:
Defenders
Michael Hibberd (http://www.footydraft.com/michael-hibberd/)
Forwards
Sam Day (http://www.footydraft.com/838/sam-da/) ...... most likely Gold Coast's 3rd pick.
Tom Lynch (http://www.footydraft.com/843/tom-lynch/)
Jack Darling (http://www.footydraft.com/836/jack-darling/)
Kieren Harper (http://www.footydraft.com/798/kieran-harper/)
Midfielders
David Swallow (http://www.footydraft.com/828/david-swallow/) .... already a Gold Coast player and their 1st pick.
Harley Bennell (http://www.footydraft.com/832/harley-bennell/) .... most likely Gold Coast's 2nd pick.
Shaun Atley (http://www.footydraft.com/840/shaun-atley/)
Rucks
Daniel Gorringe (http://www.footydraft.com/834/daniel-gorringe/)
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tom lynch is not worth a top 10 pick he is ok but not that special
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tom lynch is not worth a top 10 pick he is ok but not that special
The reason he's being rated so highly is because he only started playing football this year after a mate asked him to.
So while he may not be that special now, what you see is from under 12 months of AFL experience, which means his scope for improvement is massive
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or he could end up being a dud.
Play it safe Tigers.
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or he could end up being a dud.
So can any player in the draft
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The AFL site has started a new webpage with profiles and video of the draftees
http://draftmachine.afl.com.au/
Here's its current top 10
1. GC - David Swallow
2. GC - Harley Bennell
3. GC - Sam Day
4. WCE - Andrew Gaff
5. Bris - Dyson Heppell
6. Rich - Jared Polec
7. GC - Josh Caddy
8. Ess - Luke Parker
9. GC - Jed Lamb
10. GC - Matthew Watson
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I've hardly seen these kids play live this year so it's hard to judge them properly watching video but here's my initial thoughts on Gaff and Heppell for people here who have seen more of these draftees to pick apart and correct me.
Andrew Gaff
Age: 18
Height: 179cm
Weight: 74kg
State: Vic (metro)
U18 champ stats: 5 games, 13.2 kicks, 14.0 handballs, 6.2 marks, 2 goals
Left footer (good to elite). Looks like he can use right but left is dominate and stronger.
Inside and outside midfielder.
Sound footy smarts in terms of understanding the game and awareness. Will win the ball, give off and go then receive so likes being the go-to man.
X factor? Burst pace to go to another gear to break clear from traffic (similarities to Judd on that front although he's more Cuz's height). Allows him time and space.
Question marks? Tough to find any. Like most left footers their right isn't as strong. When you can blow opponents off I guess you don't need to use your non-dominate side much.
Dyson Heppell
Age: 18
Height: 188cm
Weight: 80kg
State: Vic (country)
U18 champ stats: 5 games, 14.0 kicks, 5.6 handballs, 4.4 marks, 3 goals
Left footer (good to elite). I haven't seen any vision of him kicking off his right.
Tall flanker/Outside midfielder.
Sound footy smarts in terms of understanding the game and awareness. Has poise so can control and distribute the ball well out of defence.
X factor? Plays tall and small, has very good pace and skills and his size which will make him a difficult player to match up against. Good below his knees and can scoop ball off the ground without changing stride.
Question marks? Overhead marking (in the vision he double-grabbed marks with his hands away from his body)? Does he have a right foot? Can he win his own ball as well as be a running receiver/rebounder.
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There's also a mock draft of all our picks from the AFL site's 'draftmachine'.....
Player Pick Club Club of origin
Jared Polec 6 Richmond Woodville W/ Torrens (SA)
Tom Gordon 29 Richmond Oakleigh Chargers (VIC)
Isaac Smith 46 Richmond North Ballarat (VIC)
Luke Dahlhaus 50 Richmond Geelong Falcons (VIC)
Andrew McInnes 63 Richmond Dandenong Stingrays (VIC)
We're unlikely to use the following picks so these are really more rookie possibilities.....
Ben Mabon 80 Richmond North Ballarat (VIC)
Tom Hickey 97 Richmond Morningside (QLD)
Isiah Stevens 114 Richmond Queanbeyan (ACT)
Arryn Siposs 131 Richmond Dandenong Stingrays (VIC)
http://draftmachine.afl.com.au/
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I might be totally off on this one but i'll stick my neck out and say Gaff doesnt impress me at all from what i have seen. Looks very vanilla and likes to peel off ultra deep for easy possessions, never seen him kick it under pressure. Reminds me of Carazzo
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I might be totally off on this one but i'll stick my neck out and say Gaff doesnt impress me at all from what i have seen. Looks very vanilla and likes to peel off ultra deep for easy possessions, never seen him kick it under pressure. Reminds me of Carazzo
That was my initial concern too when I watched this youtube video after the U18 champs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW4SNIJN5us
But the draft machine video of Gaff shows he has more strings to his bow playing in the midfield. That's why we really need to see these kids play live a few times. In any case Gaff won't last to our pick 6 :-\.
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I might be totally off on this one but i'll stick my neck out and say Gaff doesnt impress me at all from what i have seen. Looks very vanilla and likes to peel off ultra deep for easy possessions, never seen him kick it under pressure. Reminds me of Carazzo
I actually agree with you!
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I might be totally off on this one but i'll stick my neck out and say Gaff doesnt impress me at all from what i have seen. Looks very vanilla and likes to peel off ultra deep for easy possessions, never seen him kick it under pressure. Reminds me of Carazzo
Think a lot of those open possessions are due to his elite speed and endurance as displayed at the draft camp. Nothing wrong with someone who can "accumulate" possession if there is already the inside grunt in the team (martin, cotch, jackson). Personally would love gaff at 6 but seems highly unlikely he will fall there.
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agree that Gaff would compliment our engine room nicely. Not gonna get him tho.
I've heard that Polec has absolutely no right foot. Can anyone confirm this?
Its a concern if true.
I'd be happy with Caddy or Heppel.
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agree that Gaff would compliment our engine room nicely. Not gonna get him tho.
I've heard that Polec has absolutely no right foot. Can anyone confirm this?
Its a concern if true.
I'd be happy with Caddy or Heppel.
I only seen the highlights - doesnt have a right shoe from what I saw!
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I've seen him use his right during the championships, he kicked a goal on his right in the final game at Skilled, check the youtube vid. He has avery strong preference for his left but moving into a full time AFL environment I think that he could become more comfortable with his opposite side.
He will be a very good player I think.
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Just an aside but is there any coincidence we're suddenly interested in a number of left-footers (I think both Grigg and Houli are left-footers as well)?! The Hawks built their flag gameplan around lefties when Hardwick was an assistant at Glenferrie/Waverley. IIRC he was given a substancial amount of the credit for their gameplan back then.
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I still will stick with Harper :pray
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Just an aside but is there any coincidence we're suddenly interested in a number of left-footers (I think both Grigg and Houli are left-footers as well)?! The Hawks built their flag gameplan around lefties when Hardwick was an assistant at Glenferrie/Waverley. IIRC he was given a substancial amount of the credit for their gameplan back then.
yep said it in another thread. I think its a clue as to Hardwicks thinking.
Could lead us to our new draftee. Gaff and Atley both left footers are they not?
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Joshua Caddy
:gotigers
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Jack Darling, could be a surprise selection
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Someone that is an elite kick
someone that can play inside, play outside, can run and carry be versatile and show outstanding leadership.
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Polec = Left Footer
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RICHMOND
NAB AFL Draft selections: 6, 29, 46, 50, 63, plus end-of-round-one compensation selection (Nathan Bock)
Delistings and retirements: Andrew Collins (Carlton), Ben Cousins, Alroy Gilligan*, Tom Hislop, Jordan McMahon, Graham Polak*, Dean Polo, Relton Roberts*, Troy Simmonds, Richard Tambling (Adelaide), Adam Thomson
Additions: Shaun Grigg (Carlton)
Approach: Having picked up Shaun Grigg from Carlton in trade week, and with disgruntled Essendon midfielder Bachar Houli expected to come on board in the pre-season draft, the Tigers have plenty of midfield depth. What they need most is a tall defender with good skills who can help out Chris Newman in the backline. With Tyrone Vickery taking time to prove himself, a young ruckman would be another handy addition.
Dream selection: Skilful South Australian wingman Jared Polec is a likely contender to be taken by the Tigers with pick six, but given that they need a ruckman, Norwood beanpole Daniel Gorringe shapes as another genuine possibility.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/DGorringe_AllAust_246a.jpg)
Ruckman Daniel Gorringe could be a good fit for Richmond
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104173/default.aspx
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I am starting to rate Polec higher than the other posibilties as he has some amazing skills.
He is good in trafic as well as very good on the outside - have a look and let me know your thoughts.
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For those who are keen on accurate kicks......
Lucas Cook, 196cm key forward, was one of only 11 attendees of the national and state combines who registered a score of 5/5 in the Nathan Buckley-designed kicking test.
Midfielders David Swallow and Harley Bennell and big forward Sam Day, who are expected to be taken by the Suns with at No.1, 2 and 3, all recorded 5/5 for kicking.
Geelong Falcons forward Jayden Pitt, Calder Cannons duo Matthew Watson and Dion Prestia, Oakleigh Chargers ball-magnet Andrew Gaff and Gippsland's Jed Lamb, who stood out in 2010 thanks to his fluorescent yellow boots.
The other two players to record perfect scores in kicking at the state and national combines were Perth midfielder Reece Conca and Port Adelaide Magpies small forward Terry Milera. Conca, who has been compared to Western Bulldogs star Ryan Griffen.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104426/default.aspx
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Tigers went and had dinner at Keiran Harper's house not so long ago. So we must be interested in him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19410966&postcount=794
Here's some vision of Harper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMrj16d2BA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMrj16d2BA&feature=player_embedded)
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I still will stick with Harper :pray
Tigers went and had dinner at Keiran Harper's house not so long ago. So we must be interested in him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19410966&postcount=794
Here's some vision of Harper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMrj16d2BA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMrj16d2BA&feature=player_embedded)
Im on the Money !! :rollin
Hope we get him !!
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Harper looks like he has a few tricks but Polec is just real class - have a look om Utube - He stared playing in the SA grand final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5GvCEN_O5I&feature=related
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The AFL removed the footage to the link camboon :P
Here's some other clips of Polec (9) along with Brodie Smith (17) playing for Woodville-West Torrens seniors in the SANFL finals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JQLWGdzXA&NR=1 ................... vs Norwood (Polec had 20 possies to half-time)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7G9KeEjyg8&feature=related ....... vs Glenelg
Both also have video highlights from the U18 champs on http://draftmachine.afl.com.au/
For mine Smith is the better kick - more control, penetration and accuracy over distance than Polec. Although Polec is rated higher overall by most probably because of his Stephen Hill-like pace (not that Smith isn't quick either). Crows recruiting manager Matt Rendell had Polec going at 4 or 5 when interviewed last month.
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i think they are both overrated
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I looked at the YouTube vid of Harper and I have to say it didn't fire me up that much. I know it's a fool's folly to judge a player on 1 highlight reel but if that was indicative of his skillset then I would have to say meh. Anyone else seen much of him?
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The footage shows Polec playing in the SA grand final ( shows he can step up), there is some other footage of him playing TAC and he has great evasive and kicking skills - X factor. The other footage I found was on Bigfooty.
The word is he wont be around for us but gaff or heppel will be good
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WWT Eagles didn't make the Grand Final. Polec did play in the Eagles' QF, SF and PF so he has played well against men at SANFL level.
Btw I'd be very happy if Gaff is still around at our pick 6.
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Polec got plenty of the ball but is certainly an outside ball user. Probably to slight at present to win his own ball. Had trouble kicking a goal too but has a lot of upside. I'm not convinced we'll grab this kid :-\
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Stripes is that because we haven't had much luck or success in recent years with South Aussies - Meyer, McMahon, Schulz :-\
Polec 188cm, 79kg
Smith 189cm, 77kg
Polec is a outside mid/wingman but in the vids he is amongst the stoppages or centrebounces in a couple of shots so he's no Jordie allergic to any contest lol. He seems to do everything right but lets himself down with his kicking especially over distance. Bombs it more than it being a controlled kick. Compare his footskills to Brodie Smith's in the footage who plays more behind the ball like Newman. Smith's footskills are spot on.
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The knock on Smith is that he goes missing for long periods, I have had a good look at Polec and he definantly is both an inside and outside player. He moves in and out of traffic with ease and has good speed and kicks 60 metres.
I dont think he will be around as the word is Brisbane and WC will take him.
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The knock on Smith is that he goes missing for long periods, I have had a good look at Polec and he definantly is both an inside and outside player. He moves in and out of traffic with ease and has good speed and kicks 60 metres.
I dont think he will be around as the word is Brisbane and WC will take him.
If that is the case then we now have 6 people guaranteed to go in the top 5. Gaff was apparently a given for west coast at 4 after the combine and heppell is supposed to be a definate top 5 prospect. Think over the next cpl weeks there will be a lot of toing and froing in regards to media speculation as to who is going picks 4-10 or so. Still think that Gaff and Heppell would tremedous picks for the club though Polec does look good any of these players i think would fit well into the club.
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Still really want Heppell
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Still really want Heppell
Yep me too, or Atley
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The knock on Smith is that he goes missing for long periods, I have had a good look at Polec and he definantly is both an inside and outside player. He moves in and out of traffic with ease and has good speed and kicks 60 metres.
I dont think he will be around as the word is Brisbane and WC will take him.
It's hard to get any stats on the net from the SANFL so cheers for that camboon. If Polec stars at AFL level you can claim credit for being a fan and spotting his talent at junior level. Smith averaged more disposals than Polec in the U18 champs but both averaged 20+ so not a knock on either. I still reckon Smith is the better (as in precise) kick of the two especially over distance though from what I've seen.
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Purely opinion based on limited online footage but for mine none of these midfield guys standout like cotch/dusty or Lids did in their highlight reels. I'd go Darling, perfect 3rd tall that can play high, plays it tough and hard and is a very intelligent footballer, would run rings around 2nd and 3rd tall defenders imo which makes him a very valuable player considering jack will always get the number 1 defender. Will also take the dbl team heat off JR and our other tall bc he will be a handful.
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Purely opinion based on limited online footage but for mine none of these midfield guys standout like cotch/dusty or Lids did in their highlight reels. I'd go Darling, perfect 3rd tall that can play high, plays it tough and hard and is a very intelligent footballer, would run rings around 2nd and 3rd tall defenders imo which makes him a very valuable player considering jack will always get the number 1 defender. Will also take the dbl team heat off JR and our other tall bc he will be a handful.
Theres a lot of logic in that :gotigers
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Purely opinion based on limited online footage but for mine none of these midfield guys standout like cotch/dusty or Lids did in their highlight reels.
That would make sense since they are, in reality, many draft places later than the players you listed. Damn compromised draft. :-\
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Purely opinion based on limited online footage but for mine none of these midfield guys standout like cotch/dusty or Lids did in their highlight reels. I'd go Darling, perfect 3rd tall that can play high, plays it tough and hard and is a very intelligent footballer, would run rings around 2nd and 3rd tall defenders imo which makes him a very valuable player considering jack will always get the number 1 defender. Will also take the dbl team heat off JR and our other tall bc he will be a handful.
While you see him as a 3rd forward, there is more reason to pick him for Richmond.
Don't have any doubt that Hardwick wants some bigger bodies to work thru the midfield but also have the skills to rotate on field as a half forward or back.
Since Darling has stressed that he sees himself as a midfielder but has been picked as a taller forward in his junior career, he fits into this philosophy perfectly.
I don't know if this would be workable and whether we would use our first pick on Darling but it is an intriguing option IMO.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx
Have a look at this link MT and Stripeee and let me know your thoughts
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Purely opinion based on limited online footage but for mine none of these midfield guys standout like cotch/dusty or Lids did in their highlight reels. I'd go Darling, perfect 3rd tall that can play high, plays it tough and hard and is a very intelligent footballer, would run rings around 2nd and 3rd tall defenders imo which makes him a very valuable player considering jack will always get the number 1 defender. Will also take the dbl team heat off JR and our other tall bc he will be a handful.
While you see him as a 3rd forward, there is more reason to pick him for Richmond.
Don't have any doubt that Hardwick wants some bigger bodies to work thru the midfield but also have the skills to rotate on field as a half forward or back.
Since Darling has stressed that he sees himself as a midfielder but has been picked as a taller forward in his junior career, he fits into this philosophy perfectly.
I don't know if this would be workable and whether we would use our first pick on Darling but it is an intriguing option IMO.
yep agreed, he has said he doesnt want to be typecast as just a key fwd as he has shown he can play midfield and believes he has smething to offer in that department. I compare him to a Pav/Hammill type, good size unit, and can play high or deep.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx
Have a look at this link MT and Stripeee and let me know your thoughts
They've mixed up the package there. The highlights are initially of Polec but then swap to another player (No 3 - rightfooter. He looks alright by the way :-\)
Polec's a nice grab, fleet by foot and a long kick but my problem with him remains two fold - I don't think he can pinpoint a pass and I don't see him tackling or applying much pressure defensively. Perhaps that is a result of the type of footage they have chosen to 'highlight' but they are my big concerns about htis fellow. If you watch his kicking it is all up and under. I haven't seen any grass cutters like Lids, Martin or Cotch have in their predraft highlights. I worry this fellow may become another Fiona or McMuffin for us....
He may turn out to be a great player for us but at the moment I haven't seen a young midfielder that I am desperate to get as yet.
Just my opinion of course cambooneee ;)
Stripes
PS Just out of interest does anyone know how well Polec went in the kicking test at the Draft Combine?
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If Pitt was another 7 or 8 kgs heavier he would be right up there. Very good player Pitt IMHO.
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Polec didn't do any physical testing at the combine due to injury in the SaNFL final.
His defensive side is there, averaging 4 tackles a game in the championships.
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Polec didn't do any physical testing at the combine due to injury in the SaNFL final.
His defensive side is there, averaging 4 tackles a game in the championships.
In his profile notes its also something he highlights about himself. Take that as you will.
In his own words
What type of player are you?
I am a long left-footed wingman who is efficient going inside 50 and kicking at goals. My work rate around the ground is good and my defensiveness is one in a million.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx
Have a look at this link MT and Stripeee and let me know your thoughts
When I question Polec's kicking I'm not having a go at him about other things or saying he's a dud. Every other attribute he has I really like - his pace, workrate, footy smarts and awareness, and self-confidence - are the reasons he's rated so highly. The Stephen Hill comparison is not far off the mark either. If Polec's kicking was up with his other attributes he'd be the No.1 player in this draft for mine.
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All good, not having a go - just think his kicking is good when not under pressure - is defiantly not a outside player and believe the kicking can be fixed . Would like a second option on his kicking from a recruiter etc
Hope we get him if Gaff and Heppel are gone. I do like Smith though, just doesn't have the x factor that Polec has. Just love the way he moves through traffic a bit like some of the best mid fielders.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx
Have a look at this link MT and Stripeee and let me know your thoughts
When I question Polec's kicking I'm not having a go at him about other things or saying he's a dud. Every other attribute he has I really like - his pace, workrate, footy smarts and awareness, and self-confidence - are the reasons he's rated so highly. The Stephen Hill comparison is not far off the mark either. If Polec's kicking was up with his other attributes he'd be the No.1 player in this draft for mine.
The main difference I see betweeen Hill & Polec is that Hill was first and foremost a defender at U18 level, so his defensive side was always there as one of his best attributes. I don't see this in Polec and he even admits he needs to work on this side of his game.
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Im getting the feeling u guys like him becuase u have to like him... would have been good if we got Heppel or Gaff :-[ still want Harper :thumbsup
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx
Have a look at this link MT and Stripeee and let me know your thoughts
When I question Polec's kicking I'm not having a go at him about other things or saying he's a dud. Every other attribute he has I really like - his pace, workrate, footy smarts and awareness, and self-confidence - are the reasons he's rated so highly. The Stephen Hill comparison is not far off the mark either. If Polec's kicking was up with his other attributes he'd be the No.1 player in this draft for mine.
The main difference I see betweeen Hill & Polec is that Hill was first and foremost a defender at U18 level, so his defensive side was always there as one of his best attributes. I don't see this in Polec and he even admits he needs to work on this side of his game.
My Stephen Hill comparison was more related to the fact Polec can play mid/wing/flank, runs all day and is super quick across the ground with or without the footy. I wouldn't say Polec doesn't have a defensive side but true tackling was one of Hill's strengths at U18 level whereas Polec admits himself it's something he needs to work on. My main issue with Polec is his kicking especially over distance. He bombs it more than controls it like Brodie Smith does.
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West Coast is set to pounce on West Perth youngster Jack Darling with the fourth pick in the draft if the burly forward is overlooked by the Gold Coast, which has the first three selections.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/worsfold-says-krakouer-not-in-eagles-best-22/story-e6frf9jf-1225946566646
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not so sure, WC have genuine holes all over their team, in the front half and quality mids. Would be a brave move indeed to overlook the likes of Gaff
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Good for us if the Eagles do take Darling. One more elite mid available at pick 6 for us to select from.
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Yep, it will mean Heppel or Gaff will be available.
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West Coast is set to pounce on West Perth youngster Jack Darling with the fourth pick in the draft if the burly forward is overlooked by the Gold Coast, which has the first three selections.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/worsfold-says-krakouer-not-in-eagles-best-22/story-e6frf9jf-1225946566646
Fantastic result for us if this information is true.
Would be a gun midfielder coming up for us. lets hope we choose the right one. Imagine if we had another top 10 pick ;)
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Inside Football's top 12
1. GCS - David Swallow
2. GCS - Harley Bennell
3. GCS - Sam Day
4. WCE - Andrew Gaff ....... others considered - Polec, Atley
5. Bris - Jared Polec ......... others considered - Atley
6. Rich - Dyson Heppell
....... Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has publicly stated his want for young players with foot skills and Heppell suits. His is an ultra classy left footer who has taken giant strides in 2010. He will fit in nicely across the half-back line with Daniel Connors on the other flank. Others considered - Shaun Atley, Brodie Smith.
7. GCS - Shaun Atley
8. Ess - Daniel Gorringe ............ others considered - Caddy, Smith
9. GCS - Tom Lynch
10. GCS - Josh Caddy
11. GCS - Billie Smedts .............. others considered - Parker, Jacobs, Smith
12. Melb - Jack Darling .............. others considered - Harper, Guthrie
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West Coast is set to pounce on West Perth youngster Jack Darling with the fourth pick in the draft if the burly forward is overlooked by the Gold Coast, which has the first three selections.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/worsfold-says-krakouer-not-in-eagles-best-22/story-e6frf9jf-1225946566646
Gees maybe they think that Darling is the best available or tailored to their needs but i really get the feeling that a lot of interstate clubs are becoming more and more weary of picking victorians fearing they will only leave after they have pumped 75-100 games into them and are entering their prime.
Whatever the reson is i would be very happy if this was the case ensuring we could have one of Gaff or Heppell. Though who knows we may have our eye on some else (Polec, Lynch, Caddy)...
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Free agency must be of concern to the Perth clubs. It may not impact for a few years but can only expect the exodus to increase in the years to come.
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Free agency must be of concern to the Perth clubs. It may not impact for a few years but can only expect the exodus to increase in the years to come.
Great point y&b. The interesting thing for me will be to see wether this will be the case in reverse - will the players originally from WA and SA demand to return to there home state? History has suggested this is less of a factor but the new free trading will have many new consequences for all clubs in the next few years. I hope, having Beeny as CEO, we will have the edge in coping with the situation better than others.
I don't think we can lose picking between Heppell, Polec and Gaff. All are very similar in game style and attributes (they're all left footers too aren't they ???). None of these players will be of the same calibre of Cotchin or Martin, even though they are only 3/4 picks picks later than them (albeit in a different draft) but they will still become valuable players for our future. They are finishers/wingmen who would normally go in the later half of the first round round in a draft but given that the over 10 of the best players have already been taken by the GC before another club even gets it's first choice, their stocks have been elevated.
We are in a very fortunate position where our needs match the type of players left. If we had been desperate for more inside midfielders, forwards or backmen, then we would have had to pick up a second rate option rather than the quality choices we have for an outside ball-user. :thumbsup
Stripes
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not so sure, WC have genuine holes all over their team, in the front half and quality mids. Would be a brave move indeed to overlook the likes of Gaff
Not really, Darling goes alright
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According to the AFL site Polec will be a Tiger.....
The order of the first six appears to be
David Swallow (Gold Coast),
Harley Bennell (Gold Coast),
Sam Day (Gold Coast),
Andrew Gaff (West Coast),
Dyson Heppell (Brisbane Lions) and
Jared Polec (Richmond).
The question is whether Gold Coast will plump for Gorringe at No.7 or go for a midfielder.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104950/default.aspx
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Im getting the feeling u guys like him becuase u have to like him... would have been good if we got Heppel or Gaff :-[ still want Harper :thumbsup
You need to ask Santa for a dictionary man, every post of yours l have seen has grade 3 level spelling.
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Im getting the feeling u guys like him becuase u have to like him... would have been good if we got Heppel or Gaff :-[ still want Harper :thumbsup
You need to ask Santa for a dictionary man, every post of yours l have seen has grade 3 level spelling.
im gessing you are like 60 ?? because younger generations use abbreviations such as u for you and k for okay ...
Fun fact of the day old timer :thumbsup :rollin
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Granted i spelt because wrong! :lol
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Granted i spelt because wrong! :lol
And guessing. And I love the arrogance of youth - thinking they invented phonetics! :lol
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Still Shaun Atley for me
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Just saw highlights of Polec on You Tube in Finals played against Glenelg and Norwood. He was very very good especially against Norwood.
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some highlights here.
looks alright. :thumbsup
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Wheres dem highlights Willy? Don't go teasin now..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7G9KeEjyg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JQLWGdzXA
There also was a clip of him from the U/18 champs, but the AFL in their infinate wisdom put a copyright claim in. It seems they dont care about making the game available to as many people as possible.
It was interesting that Polecs disposal efficiency was better in the senior SAFL games than the U/18 game shown.
I wonder if that is due to playing in a better structured side at the higher level?
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another clip from the AFL site.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102361/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer.
In this one his disposal looks effective as well, it's different to the one the AFL had removed from youtube. He may just of had a bad day in that one.
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thanks al
Yeah I would be happy with Polec or Atley to be honest. If Polec falls into our hands, nice, but I am always wary of the go home BS thats been going on more and more lately.
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Wheres dem highlights Willy? Don't go teasin now..
whoops my bad Hooter.
i thought i posted a link, but apparently not.
looks like it has been cleared up anyhow.
thanks lads.
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From Paul Daffy's livechat on the AFL website:
hey paul who do you think richmond will be targetting at pick 6?
Paul Daffey:
Hi Guest,
I suspect it's Woodville-West Torrens wingman Jared Polec. He's fast, elusive, and finishes beautifully on his left foot. Richmond are not quite over their dud-kicking days yet.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/livechat/tabid/15974/default.aspx
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Fox Sports site has a guide to each club's 'needs' in the draft:
RICHMOND
Selections: 6, 30, 47, 51, 64, 81, 98, 115, 132
What they need: The Tigers cleverly bolstered their midfield with the acquisition of Carlton's Shaun Grigg. He can play and will get more opportunities at Punt Road than he was afforded at the Blues in 2010. Essendon's Bachar Houli is also a possibility to cross to the Tigers. Adding that pair will allow Damien Hardwick to work on securing a solid big backman and foil for Jack Riewoldt in attack. Former Demon Brad Miller is a chance to fill the latter position. Angus Graham took steps forward this year but the ruck stocks could be strengthened with pick No.30.
Fits the bill: It's 'best possible' for Richmond with selection No.6 and that is shaping as Jared Polec. The South Australian is a strong and skilled midfielder with pace to burn. The ruck quandary should be sorted with their second choice, No.30. Daniel Gorringe and Scott Lycett, the two best-credentialed big boys, will be gone by then so Leif Cope shapes as a possible option. His mobility and ability to win the ball on the ground appeals as much as his ruckwork.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/foxsportscomau-tells-you-what-your-club-will-be-hoping-for-in-the-2010-nab-afl-draft/story-e6frf3e3-1225951089380 (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/foxsportscomau-tells-you-what-your-club-will-be-hoping-for-in-the-2010-nab-afl-draft/story-e6frf3e3-1225951089380)
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Polec is too bloody skinny another skinny flanker in the making. Just about all the press are gunning for this guy to go to Richmond, I say leave this skinny flanker for Essendon, we want Atley got a bit of beef on him, or Heppel
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I'll take a skinny kid who can perform amongst the men and still has to grow into his body over an early developer who is basically a mature body carving it up against mainly skinny kids. (not a reference to Atley but a general statement)
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I'll take a skinny kid who can perform amongst the men and still has to grow into his body over an early developer who is basically a mature body carving it up against mainly skinny kids. (not a reference to Atley but a general statement)
Totally understand where your comming from, from that perspective but personally I wouldn't pick Polec, I'd pick the stronger more skilled player.
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I think Richmond will draft Polec next week.
But if West Coast draft Jack Darling at Pick 4, Heppell or Gaff will be the choice between.
Not convinced about Polec because of his weight, however I did watch Polec live at AAMI when West Torrens defeated Glenelg and I was impressed with his pace and long left foot kick.
:)
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I think Richmond will draft Polec next week.
But if West Coast draft Jack Darling at Pick 4, Heppell or Gaff will be the choice between.
Not convinced about Polec because of his weight, however I did watch Polec live at AAMI when West Torrens defeated Glenelg and I was impressed with his pace and long left foot kick.
:)
His highlights reel from both SANFL finals were pretty decent. Not that you can place too much stock in just highlight reels, but he showed a fair bit against senior bodies.
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I dont understand this issue about Poleks weight. According to my reference he is 81kgs and 188cm. He only needs to put on 4 or 5 kgs and end up at 85/86kg which is a good weight for an outside mid or wingman.
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I dont understand this issue about Poleks weight. According to my reference he is 81kgs and 188cm. He only needs to put on 4 or 5 kgs and end up at 85/86kg which is a good weight for an outside mid or wingman.
Wouldn't you just go and meet his parents and see from them whether he'll have trouble gaining weight or if he'll be Fiora stick figure skinny for his whole career?
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81kgs for a 17yo is not a stick figure number. This is just that afew people are wanting a certain player and people sticking the boots in to Polek because hes not there preferred option at 6. I havent seen alot of Polek but if the club reckons hes our best bet at 6 then thats who we should take.
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And as you've already stated his body hasn't held him back from playing against mature bodies, Look at Brennan, Hill and Dale Thomas, Being slight in body hasn't held them back in AFL footy.
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Emma Quayle is working on her phantom draft......
"Hmmm....... does Tom Lynch go to Richmond? He would certainly complement Riewoldt & Griffiths"
[Responding to our Nugget]
"why do you say polec is set? i think that's what's most likely, but not set yet"
http://twitter.com/emmasq
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Emma Quayle has just thrown a unexpected name up at our first pick.....
"Reece Conca, WA onballer, is shooting up the draft order. He's another big chance to Richmond @ 6. Told you it wasn't settled!"
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Emma Quayle has just thrown a unexpected name up at our first pick.....
"Reece Conca, WA onballer, is shooting up the draft order. He's another big chance to Richmond @ 6. Told you it wasn't settled!"
Can't find any hightlights of him after a quick search... :-\
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Emma Quayle has just thrown a unexpected name up at our first pick.....
"Reece Conca, WA onballer, is shooting up the draft order. He's another big chance to Richmond @ 6. Told you it wasn't settled!"
Can't find any hightlights of him after a quick search... :-\
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/297361/reece-conca/
Reece Conca
Height: 185cm
Weight: 79kg
DOB: 12/08/92
Club: Perth (WA)
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/concarcomb_a.jpg)
Kevin Sheehan says: Versatile player who can play forward, midfield or back. His ability to run and carry and his football smarts were prominent in representing WA at the Under-18 Championships this year. Averaged 18 disposals at 79 per cent efficiency.
Stats (aggregate for 2010 U18s National Championships)
Games K H D M G H/O
5 46 46 92 24 1 0
In his own words
What type of player are you?
A confident player who works hard on and off the football field. A real team-oriented and leadership figure who enjoys all aspects of football and strives for success.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Ryan Griffen - because of his ability to run and carry along with the fact he can play multiple positions effectively. He’s an honest and fair player who seems a real leader at his club.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
I have the versatility to play multiple positions, ability to play inside and outside, good leadership, and the ability to run and carry.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
My goal kicking, tackling, and physicality around contests.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
Sydney Swans - Paul Kelly was and still is my AFL idol and watching him growing up made me support the Swans and inspired my thirst to play AFL.
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
My biggest influence has being my father Loui who has been involved in all my football to this stage. The simple things like having a kick at the park and talking to me at games as a kid are the most important factors.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/101736/default.aspx
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Emma Quayle just now......
"I've gone off the Tom Lynch to Richmond idea in the space of 2 hours...."
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yeah didnt think Lynch was high on our priority list, we already have Griffiths/Post and Astbury who are potential tall fwds, not to mention Vickery pinch hitting there.
Very interested to see Emmas phantom draft
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Polec may not be around at our pick 6....
Brisbane is believed to have wavered on taking gritty Victorian country midfielder Dyson Heppell.
The Lions now appear more likely to pick classy Woodville-West Torrens on-baller Jared Polec with their first choice and number five overall.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/11/12/mckenna-confirms-wa-draft-interest/
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i reckon all of and any of bennell yep bennell, heppell, gaff, caddy,atley.
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Polec may not be around at our pick 6....
Brisbane is believed to have wavered on taking gritty Victorian country midfielder Dyson Heppell.
The Lions now appear more likely to pick classy Woodville-West Torrens on-baller Jared Polec with their first choice and number five overall.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/11/12/mckenna-confirms-wa-draft-interest/
Hope so. Heppell is the one I want.
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i've really taken a liking to polec of late but if we end up getting heppell it's hard to complain and i'd be stoked just the same
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Talking to Emma Quayle over twitter....
Any explanation why Conca is rumoured to go at pick 6 to Richmond?
EQ: Conca & tape - just word from contacts. Watch this space
Nugz: i see ur still sure on Conca at #6, just have to see how it pans out!i like him but is he worth #6?
RT: G'Day Emma any chance of Smith for the Tigers at 6?
EQ: I'm on polec, tape then conca at 6!
No to either smith... Polec tape or conca
RT: Cheers Emma, just heard from someone who claims to have inside info that we were looking at a midfielder from interstate @ 185cm
EQ: To those asking about richmond's pick 6, at the moment the order I have is polec, tape or conca..
Nugz: RT that's Reece conca
RT: What chance do you give Gaff sliding to 6, appears that WC are keen on Polec and Lions like Heppell
EQ: I have Gaff at 4 and Heppell at 5.
http://twitter.com/emmasq
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I have a feeling we will take Heppell.
I think West Coast will take Darling.
Brisbane can not pass up on Gaff can they?
Heppell or Polec will be the option and Richmond will take Heppell.
Don't think West Coast could take Polec instead of Gaff.
It is STUPID saying "I don't want him, him or him!"
We have to accept them and give them a go!
Personal opinion and selection has been Gaff all along and then Caddy, Polec third.
As long as this player contributes to Richmonds 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th Premiership I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CARE!
Time will tell ... obviously!
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I'm not saying Heppell won't be a good player but I feel we need another genuine midfielders rather than a half-back/rebounder. Someone who plays both inside and outside. Our midfield lacks depth and class once you get past Cotch, Martin and Lids (Foley could be a bonus in 2011 if his ankle/achilles are right). I would love Gaff to fall to our pick but hard to see him lasting to our pick. The way Dimma was talking on SEN saying he was after another mid in the draft who could deliver inside 50 I would've backed us going for Polec (although I still don't think he is the greatest kick) but the talk of Conca has that feeling it's coming from someone in the know because it's come within the last week (similar to Hill going to Freo). Conca is an outside mid so fits Dimma's criteria, is a very reliable kick and has footy smarts from what I've seen. He's also played senior WAFL footy in the second half of this year averaging 18 possies. He's just not as quick and probably doesn't have the roost of a kick that a Polec does.
Conca's stats:
WAFL seniors: http://wafl.pro-stats.com.au/wafl/web/player_games?pid=96277
WAFL colts: http://wafl.pro-stats.com.au/colts/web/player_games?pid=96277
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I'm not saying Heppell won't be a good player but I feel we need another genuine midfielders rather than a half-back/rebounder. Someone who plays both inside and outside.
Heppell does play midfield, not just half back flank. He started off down back early in the season but moved into the midfield later in the year and played his best in the middle. His 36 disposal game in the TAC final was predominantly in the guts.
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/concarcomb_a.jpg)
I reckon he looks a little like Joel Bowden? (appearance not playing style)
Maybe a future #11 if we draft him?? ;D
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I'm not saying Heppell won't be a good player but I feel we need another genuine midfielders rather than a half-back/rebounder. Someone who plays both inside and outside.
Heppell is a midfielder! he played HBF due to a loss of fitness and no pre-season as a result of shin splints. Played all midfield as an under 16 in the champs and once his fitness allowed he moved back there this season. He can play centre square and win his own ball and is out standing at delivering it inside 50.
He played on ball in his best game of the TAC cup season where he got 37 possessions and something like 15 clearances to drag the power over the line after being down by 30 points at half time.
His kicking is elite, his Gippy Power coach told his team mates to look for him so that he could distribute the ball that's how highly his decision making and disposal is rated.
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Allison said a fair bit of attention would be paid to Heppell in the lead-up to next week's grand final. "He's got balance, he's got poise, he's got very good decision-making skills on both sides of his body. He's in and under and then next thing you know he's on the outside giving a handball receive," Allison said.
Gippsland coach Damian Carroll said Heppell deserved plenty of accolades after an outstanding season. "He's [Heppell] a super player and also very good over head as well … he sets up a lot of play going forward for us," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heppell-shaping-as-high-draft-pick-20100911-15633.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heppell-shaping-as-high-draft-pick-20100911-15633.html)
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Heppel sounds all class. I wanted him early on and still hope he comes to Richmond via draft pick 6. Would not be unhappy with atley or gaff. I hope somehow essendon do bad in this draft
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Heppel sounds all class. I wanted him early on and still hope he comes to Richmond via draft pick 6. Would not be unhappy with atley or gaff. I hope somehow essendon do bad in this draft
all 3 look good i just want the best mid not the best flanker.
re: Bombers here here.
they are slowly becoming the new Carlton in my eyes
I just cant stand everything about them.
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Herald-Sun is tipping Polec to Richmond as "the hot tip"...
Jared Polec the complete package
* Andrew Capel
* From: The Advertiser
* November 15, 2010 1:15PM
HE MODELS his game on electrifying Fremantle gamebreaker Stephen Hill and has the legendary work ethic of Port Adelaide All-Australian Kane Cornes.
Blend the two together and it's no wonder Woodville-West Torrens coach Michael Godden describes AFL-bound teenager Jared Polec as being "as good a junior as I've seen come through the system''.
"He's just one of those kids who seems to have it all,'' Godden said.
"Jared's got magnificent skills, pace, he knows how to find the ball and he's got the courage and work ethic to go with it. Obviously he's only young but you'd have to say he seems to be the complete package.''
Godden's phone has run hot with AFL clubs lining up to get his take on the just-turned 18-year-old, who is a member of Henley High School's famed football program.
But only a handful of clubs will get a crack at the long-striding, long-kicking left-footer, who should be the second Croweater taken at the draft (behind Sturt big man Sam Day) and a top-six selection.
With West Coast (pick four) apparently set on Victorian Andrew Gaff, Brisbane and Richmond are next in line, with the Tigers the hot pre-draft pick to read out Polec's name.
While Godden sees similarities between Polec and his hero Hill - "they move very similarly and possess the same coolness and freakiness to get out of tight situtations" - he said it was Polec's work rate which virtually guaranteed he would make it on the big stage.
"He's got all the skill in the world, the wow-factor that turns games, but the thing about Jared that really stands out to me is that he just works so hard,'' Godden said. "He's not a kid who relies on his natural ability.''
Polec's tremendous work ethic was on full display in the SANFL finals when he did not come off for a rest in any of the club's three games.
In the end it caught up with him. Carrying a slight thigh strain and tagged by Norwood ace Paul Puopolo, Polec tired badly in the second half of the heartbreaking, last-minute preliminary final loss to the Redlegs after being best-afield in the first half with 17 telling possessions.
"He just ran himself into the ground,'' Godden said.
"He gave everything he had but in the end he ran out of legs, which is not uncommon for a young player. We had a lot of injuries in the finals so he was asked to do a lot of work and he took that on board and coped really well.''
Godden said Polec was often the first to attend Eagles training and the last to leave, always finding an area of his game to work on.
"I'd walk out of my office at 5pm to get ready for a 6pm training session and Jared was always out on the oval fully stripped ready for training and kicking for goal. He just seems to always have a football in his hands.''
Polec, a flying machine at 189cm and 83kg, said he inherited his strong work ethic from his parents, who are of Polish descent.
"Dad works virtually 24-7 in a butcher shop and mum's always been a hard worker,'' he said.
Polec, who as a 15 and 16-year-old was playing at full forward and full back, now likes nothing more than tucking the ball under his arm and breaking the lines with his blistering pace.
"I love watching Stephen Hill do that so I try to emulate him,'' he said, adding five years of little athletics training had taught him how to run.
A new rivalry is about to begin.
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/11/14/1225953/368127-jaredpolec.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jared-polec-the-complete-package/story-e6frf9jf-1225953797620?from=public_rss
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However the West Australian papers are mentioning Conca in our sights......
Reece Conca has charged into serious contention as a top 10 pick after being linked to Richmond. The Tigers have the Perth midfielder under consideration for their first selection, No.6.
He would be the third West Australian in the top six. East Fremantle’s David Swallow is certain to be snapped up by Gold Coast with pick No.1, and Peel’s Harley Bennell will join him at pick two or three.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/8318895/eagles-set-to-swoop-on-ugle/
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The idea of having Stephen Hill-esque in our midfield really appeals to me! Clean silky skills with pace to burn!!
Officially on the Polec train.
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The idea of having Stephen Hill-esque in our midfield really appeals to me! Clean silky skills with pace to burn!!
Officially on the Polec train.
Im thinking Brisbane will be too.
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Liked Conca's highlights.
Don't care who we get to be honest, just no x-factor types who we've only seen on a highlights video :lol
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From what i've been reading, sounds like Conca could be the man.
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Hope not , Polec has my vote.
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sorry cant see why we would be going for another 182 cms part time midfielder.
We need taller more skillful options than him.
Its all fluff and media build up. Atley, Gaff or Polec will be our man not this bloke, surely not.
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sorry cant see why we would be going for another 182 cms part time midfielder.
We need taller more skillful options than him.
Its all fluff and media build up. Atley, Gaff or Polec will be our man not this bloke, surely not.
Who are you talking about? Heppell is 189cm and Conca is 185cm
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Emma Quayle late last night o twitter said Brisbane may be selecting Polec: "Oh, Brisbane Lions, Please tell me you're not going to stuff up all my plans and pick Jared Polec................"
Nugget said "if that's the case I reckon Heppel will be a Tiger! I'm a gippy boy and a few old team mates have said the Tiges spoke to dyson after draft camp a couple times!"
She's mentioned two days ago she thought it may be out of Polec, Tape and Conca. Not sure if this now means she thinks Conca at 6 now or Heppell is back in the mix because she originally thought Heppell would be gone by our pick 6. I've been told we've settled on who we are going to pick.
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Be stunned if Heppell was around at pick 6, he is an absolute gun footballer.
Will start of round one at half back and eventually move into the middle.
A midfield of Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Foley & Heppell would be horrendous for the opposition to match up on !!
Throw in workmanlike players such as Grigg, Houli, Jackson, Edwards and we have some rotations
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What does Emma Quayle do?
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What does Emma Quayle do?
Watch young AFL talent and report in The Age.
Actually I should simply say, watch young AFL talent and write about it.
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Rumour doing the rounds is Brisbane's docs must not have liked Heppell's groins and so they'll go for Polec instead.
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Rumour doing the rounds is Brisbane's docs must not have liked Heppell's groins and so they'll go for Polec instead.
Dodgy groin?
He'd fit right in with Fev and Browny.
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Rumour doing the rounds is Brisbane's docs must not have liked Heppell's groins and so they'll go for Polec instead.
a real concern if its true imho and we pick him.
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did Heppell did not get 40 odd touches and win the game by him self in his 2nd last game? good effort if he was carrying a injury
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did Heppell did not get 40 odd touches and win the game by him self in his 2nd last game? good effort if he was carrying a injury
Yep Heppell got 42 possies in a final against Oakleigh Chargers.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Dyson%20Heppell&action=PSTATS&pID=189123923&client=1-3020-0-102897-8056772 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Dyson%20Heppell&action=PSTATS&pID=189123923&client=1-3020-0-102897-8056772)
I guess the next question if this is true is when did he sustain a groin injury?
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I'm not saying Heppell won't be a good player but I feel we need another genuine midfielders rather than a half-back/rebounder. Someone who plays both inside and outside.
Heppell is a midfielder! he played HBF due to a loss of fitness and no pre-season as a result of shin splints. Played all midfield as an under 16 in the champs and once his fitness allowed he moved back there this season. He can play centre square and win his own ball and is out standing at delivering it inside 50.
He played on ball in his best game of the TAC cup season where he got 37 possessions and something like 15 clearances to drag the power over the line after being down by 30 points at half time.
His kicking is elite, his Gippy Power coach told his team mates to look for him so that he could distribute the ball that's how highly his decision making and disposal is rated.
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Allison said a fair bit of attention would be paid to Heppell in the lead-up to next week's grand final. "He's got balance, he's got poise, he's got very good decision-making skills on both sides of his body. He's in and under and then next thing you know he's on the outside giving a handball receive," Allison said.
Gippsland coach Damian Carroll said Heppell deserved plenty of accolades after an outstanding season. "He's [Heppell] a super player and also very good over head as well … he sets up a lot of play going forward for us," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heppell-shaping-as-high-draft-pick-20100911-15633.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heppell-shaping-as-high-draft-pick-20100911-15633.html)
Ta elliot and infamy.
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can't go wrong either way - from the vision I've seen, Heppell has impressed me the most of all the midfielders bar Swallow. Polec's got serious game too either way win win, prefer either to Gaff/Atley
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Dyson Heppell
Will he be more than a half back flank?...
Shaun Atley
Kicking is not good enough... doesn’t get enough of it and is too reactive to the play... overrated because he plays a ‘sexy style’
Josh Caddy
U18 bash and crash bully that will get found out at AFL... will be injury prone with his style
Andrew Gaff
Doesn’t hurt the opposition enough...vanilla... is he closer to his peak than the others...
Jared Polec
Drifts in and out of games... prone to getting tagged out of it...
Harley Bennell
Drifts in and out of games... Doesn’t work hard enough... Can’t handle a tag...
Daniel Gorringe
Very raw... struggled at SANFL... plays like a small man around the ground (doesn’t take enough marks)
Sam Day
Very overrated based on what he’s actually done... baseball is said to be his sport of choice...
Tom Lynch
Tested VERY SLOW off the mark... Bound to experience growing pains...
Jack Darling
A bit short for a key position prospect and not explosive off the mark nor that good below knees .. has off-field baggage already... was he a man amongst boys?..
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Richmond still need key position players and pick 6 will be crucial for the Tigers fans as they don't have another pick until 30. Expect them to plonk for the best available tall talent.
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-opinion-display/2010-afl-draft-preview-102301
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Richmond still need key position players and pick 6 will be crucial for the Tigers fans as they don't have another pick until 30. Expect them to plonk for the best available tall talent.
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-opinion-display/2010-afl-draft-preview-102301
Will be very suprised if we go tall with pick six think we have our eye on outside midfielders already mentioned (polec, heppel, conca). Would not be suprised however if with our next pick we do take the best available tall like a Luke Mitchell.
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Be stunned if Heppell was around at pick 6, he is an absolute gun footballer.
Will start of round one at half back and eventually move into the middle.
A midfield of Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Foley & Heppell would be horrendous for the opposition to match up on !!
Throw in workmanlike players such as Grigg, Houli, Jackson, Edwards and we have some rotations
i still reckon theres a chance gc will take heppell at 3. if that happens bennell will probably go to wce.
seems to me in the mix at 6 will be gaff, caddy, gorringe, tape, atley.
at 30 its likely mids michie cripps smedts farmer newton hallahan fasolo parker green newton jacobs and prestia will be available give or take 6 or 7 picks either side of 30. talls mitchell cook chalwel watson would like to add mccarthy but think it unlikely he will be there.
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I'm still holding out hope Gaff will be available.
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Looks like Conca according to the press just out. We wanted Polec but hes going to Brisbane.
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Looks like Conca according to the press just out. We wanted Polec but hes going to Brisbane.
no thanks.
Hope this jay clark fellow is off the mark
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Looks like Conca according to the press just out. We wanted Polec but hes going to Brisbane.
no thanks.
Hope this jay clark fellow is off the mark
I actually like Conca as a talent but I think hes a 10 to 20 selection not a 6. Anyway we'll see what happens.
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Here's the article.....
Brisbane Lions to snatch Richmond target Jared Polec
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
November 16, 2010 9:45PM
RICHMOND could be forced into a last-minute draft change as the Brisbane Lions seem likely to swoop on the club's preferred midfield target.
The Tigers want Ryan Griffen-like line-breaker Jared Polec at pick No. 6 in the AFL national draft.
However, in a late change of heart, Brisbane is set to steal the Tigers' thunder by grabbing Polec at No. 5, instead of the man the Lions were strongly linked to, half-back Dyson Heppell.
And, rather than take Heppell in a straight swap, it is understood Richmond will pull its own surprise and grab nippy West Australian midfielder Reece Conca.
It was thought Conca would be picked by Fremantle somewhere in the teen calls, possibly as late as selection No. 20.
But Conca's versatility and efficiency by foot, a top priority for Richmond, has propelled the strong-bodied playmaker up the order.
It means smooth-moving Heppell, whose left foot has been likened to that of Luke Hodge, could slide as far as Adelaide at pick No.14, or Geelong at 15.
In another shock, Melbourne could secure its dream draft result and get the key big man it craves.
It is believed Gold Coast will let through either ruckman Daniel Gorringe or key forward Tom Lynch to the Dees at pick No. 12.
Melbourne has a glittering young midfield, but needs to bolster its spine.
Instead of taking both key-position players, the Suns are sizing up midfielders Josh Caddy and Dion Prestia, and backman Seb Tape among picks seven, nine, 10 and 11.
Essendon is poised to get its man, speedy inside midfielder Shaun Atley.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-to-snatch-richmond-target-jared-polec/story-e6frf9jf-1225954635956
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Looks like Conca according to the press just out. We wanted Polec but hes going to Brisbane.
no thanks.
Hope this jay clark fellow is off the mark
I actually like Conca as a talent but I think hes a 10 to 20 selection not a 6. Anyway we'll see what happens.
Thing is we don't really know about any of these guys or how they will turn out and we don't really understand what the club is thinking. (Apologies to anyone who does actually know :D ).
After reading the article above I found myself having a little sook about Brisbane pinching our player. Then I sat back and asked myself "Why am I getting so emotional?". Well I reckon it's because I got used to the idea of Polec. I had felt the same about Heppell and I had felt the same about Gaff. When I first heard about Polec I wasn't keen, now I'm peeed off he might go to another club. If I had a week or so to get used to Conca then I'd probably feel good about him also.
Point is, for a nuffy like myself, there isn't any real substance behind my preference for a player. Guess we'll see what happens on the day.
(Nobody better bring up JON. Don't want to hear it. Totally different player, similar looking circumstance, in reality probably not the same at all.)
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In tHe 2005 draft we had the option skipping Mitch Clark and Shannon hurn in favor of JON...
I'd be worried if we didn't grab who looks like the best plyer left come pick #6. I spose you have to trust hardwick and co. But it'd be hard to watch atley or polec or gaff or heppell become a gun at gc or essendon
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Looks like Conca according to the press just out. We wanted Polec but hes going to Brisbane.
no thanks.
Hope this jay clark fellow is off the mark
i agree. I find it hard to believe Scotty Clayton and the like wouldnt see this bloke as a top 6 yet we do.
lets be honest our track record hasnt been great the last 20 years.
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i agree. I find it hard to believe Scotty Clayton and the like wouldnt see this bloke as a top 6 yet we do.
lets be honest our track record hasnt been great the last 20 years.
I don't think Scotty Clayton is the recruiting genius that he has been made out to be. He got all the plaudits for the Suns trade week, but someone else was the brains behind it all.
He couldn't spot a talented tall if it bit him on the backside.
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Whoever we pick
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i agree. I find it hard to believe Scotty Clayton and the like wouldnt see this bloke as a top 6 yet we do.
lets be honest our track record hasnt been great the last 20 years.
I don't think Scotty Clayton is the recruiting genius that he has been made out to be. He got all the plaudits for the Suns trade week, but someone else was the brains behind it all.
He couldn't spot a talented tall if it bit him on the backside.
lets just wait and see who we select shall we
Im just saying that no one ever considered this bloke to be top 6 yet there is a chance we do.
I dont believe we are in a position to take risks. We should choose best available talent and i highly doubt this bloke is at 6.
My Opinion of course
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Sean Atley for mine, the kid is going to be a star of our game.
I rate him better than Gaff. Emma Quayle has him at pick 4. She knows her stuff.
Get Atley Cameron, pass him at your peril.
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This article today frm SNF is claiming Caddy to Richmond......
Gaff goes west and Polec north
By Kim Hagdorn
17 November 2010
Gaff’s powerful gut running qualities and smart decisions in heavy congestion around packs are among his many qualities understood to have finally won over West Coast recruiters.
The 18-year-old Victorian is expected to be taken by West Coast after careful consideration against top quality South Australian on-baller Jared Polec.
It has become roundly considered through AFL circles that new franchise Gold Coast will take West Australians David Swallow and Harley Bennell, as well as South Australian Sam Day in the first three picks.
But, it has not been as clear on just where West Coast and Brisbane might head with their first selections.
Another hard-nosed West Aussie has stormed into late calculations for a top-10 selection, with Perth ball-winner Reece Conca possibly heading to Essendon.
Conca’s manager Colin Young would not reveal which clubs have expressed interest in the feisty 18-year-old who finished the 2010 season playing senior WAFL level.
But his agent confirmed growing interest in the young star as the 25th annual AFL draft approached.
“I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Reece Conca slipped into the top 10. But that’s all I can say,” Young told sportsnewsfirst.
The Eagles are believed to have thrashed out whether to take Gaff or the brilliant Polec.
Brisbane coach Michael Voss and his talent scouts made similar assessments and with Gaff heading west it seems Polec’s explosive pace and classy left-foot disposal in the mould of highly decorated champion Lions pair of Simon Black and Luke Power and 2009 NAB Rising Star champion Daniel Rich will head north.
With Polec severely shortening in his prospects to head to Voss and his Lions at pick number five, Richmond are now understood to be preparing to pluck another hard-nosed midfield ball-magnet Josh Caddy at number six.
The Tigers are known to want more midfield ball-winning depth in support of exciting pair Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin to supply new goal-kicking revelation Jack Riewoldt.
Gold Coast join back in the selection race at number seven with the fourth of their privileged eight picks inside the first 13 selections.
The Suns are tipped to take another tall forward in Tom Lynch, before Essendon enter to most unique selection process in the draft’s 25-year history.
New Bombers coach James Hird has held lengthy discussions and planning sessions with his recruiting team with desperate intentions to inject pace and class into his midfield.
Being especially suited to run and carry the footy and deliver the footy long into Essendon’s forward line at home ground Etihad Stadium is believed to be a priority in Hird’s preference for the Bombers crucial first choice.
The Bombers are expected to take Victorian country inside ball-winner Shaun Atley, but could swing a surprise by choosing Conca.
It is a shared view among top recruiters that the tough midfielder, who was highly impressive at seniors level in struggling WAFL club Perth late into the 2010 season, will rapidly fit into an AFL team for much of next season.
Conca is ready to play and is known to have highly impressed Bombers decision makers.
Gold Coast then takes three consecutive picks at nine, 10 and 11.
The Suns are expected to snap up a ruckman-forward in South Australian big man Daniel Gorringe and another couple of midfielders Atley or Jayden Pitt from the talent-rich Geelong district and versatile Glenelg running-back Seb Tape.
With confirmation of Gaff, Polec and Caddy as early picks, previously highly rated Gippsland follower Dyson Heppell has drifted in favour.
The tall on-baller, playing midfield creative roles at around 189cm, could fall into the hands of emerging AFL finals contender Melbourne at the Demons first pick and number 12 overall.
The Suns have another at 13, followed by Adelaide and Geelong with their first pick at number 15 as part of trading and losing Gary Ablett to Gold Coast.
Adelaide is believed to be contemplating the value of classy East Fremantle outside ball-carrier Jamie Cripps while Geelong look certain to pluck clever North Ballarat winger Isaac Smith.
Top Victorian midfield hopes Ben Jacobs, Bill Smedts, Jayden Pitt and Luke Parker as well as South Australian ruckman-forward Pat McCarthy, WA’s tall forward Jack Darling and Calder Cannons key defender Matthew Watson at 195cm and 102kg appeal for slots between 16 and early 20s.
A possible Top 20 AFL draft picks:
1) David Swallow (WA) Gold Coast
2) Sam Day (SA) Gold Coast
3) Harley Bennell (WA) Gold Coast
4) Andrew Gaff (Victoria) West Coast
5) Jared Polec (SA) Brisbane
6) Josh Caddy (Victoria) Richmond
7) Tom Lynch (Victoria) Gold Coast
8) Reece Conca (WA) Essendon
9) Daniel Gorringe (SA) Gold Coast
10) Jayden Pitt (Victoria) Gold Coast
11) Seb Tape (SA) Gold Coast
12) Dyson Heppell (Victoria) Melbourne
13) Shaun Atley (Victoria) Gold Coast
14) Jamie Cripps (WA) Adelaide
15) Isaac Smith (Victoria) Geelong
16) Ben Jacobs (Victoria) Port Adelaide
17) Matthew Watson (Victoria) North Melbourne
18) Pat McCarthy (Victoria) Carlton
19) Scott Lycett (SA) Hawthorn
20) Jack Darling (WA) Fremantle
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/11/17/gaff-goes-west-and-polec-north/
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Hope its not true, If we miss on Polec ( I hope not) Why wouldnt we take Heppel or even Atley.
Caddy look like a bit of a plodder in my book - he has great courage but not worth a pick 6.
Appears to be a few mental games being played to either flush out some info or to put fear into other teams.
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It seems that way, doesn't it Camboon?
Makes it a bit more interesting all this uncertainty.
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Heppell, Conca, Polac, Lynch and now Caddy....does anyone know?? It appears not. Speculation on our pick changes every day and that is all it is ....SPECULATION!
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Hope its not true, If we miss on Polec ( I hope not) Why wouldnt we take Heppel or even Atley.
Caddy look like a bit of a plodder in my book - he has great courage but not worth a pick 6.
Appears to a few mental games being played to either flush out some info or to put fear into other teams.
He ran a 2.91 sec 20m sprint time at the draft camp so he's not far off Lids & Martin who did 2.89 secs
He also came 8th in both the 3km run and beep test so he's got pace & stamina
Was 1st in the handball test
Averaged 24 disposals (11 contested) and 7 clearances per game at the championships
Kicked 22 goals 11 in the TAC Cup this year so can also play forward or kick goals from the midfield
I would have no problem if we took Caddy, he would allow us to release Cotchin in more of an outside role where he can get into space and use his pace. Teaming up Caddy and Martin would form a very strong inside midfield for the next decade.
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What about a ruck man at 6! or are we best to wait until later.
Who is our best hope in that area?
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Heppell, Conca, Polac, Lynch and now Caddy....does anyone know?? It appears not. Speculation on our pick changes every day and that is all it is ....SPECULATION!
There seems to be lots of that this year. I am not sure if it was last year or the year before there was a dinner (or just a night) at the club with the recruiting guys where they explained the thinking at the club without actaully comming out and saying "we will be picking _____ ". Was there any such night this year and if so did anybody go?
I supose it dont matter now as we will have our answers in a day. Then its just a few more months of training reports before the NAB cup, it will go quick I hope.
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Hearing we will take Heppel if The Bears take Polec
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Hearing we will take Heppel if The Bears take Polec
Reports are that the reason that Brisbane may overlook Heppel is due to their medical team suggesting he may have long term groin issues. This worries me :-\
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Could they be worried because of the Gabba being hard?
A few Lions have bad groins because of the ground?
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Hearing we will take Heppel if The Bears take Polec
Reports are that the reason that Brisbane may overlook Heppel is due to their medical team suggesting he may have long term groin issues. This worries me :-\
Or could it be other Clubs spreading this hoping he will slip in the draft to them ? :shh
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Hearing we will take Heppel if The Bears take Polec
Reports are that the reason that Brisbane may overlook Heppel is due to their medical team suggesting he may have long term groin issues. This worries me :-\
Or could it be other Clubs spreading this hoping he will slip in the draft to them ? :shh
Yes - thought that myself but still...
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Atley, Polec, Heppell or Gaff one of those will be in black and yellow.
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Saw Benny Gale and some of the RFC brains trust jumping off a Jetstar flight at GC airport this morning with Ross Lyon and some of the Saints crew. No Dimma. The terminal was covered in Suns banners and giant Gary heads.
If Heppel is available we'll take him. FJ has been all over him since under 16s.
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Emma Quayle reckons we are picking Conca.
Qu. A few different thoughts on the Tigers pick 6, any idea who they will take?
Emma: conca
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Emma Quayle reckons we are picking Conca.
Qu. A few different thoughts on the Tigers pick 6, any idea who they will take?
Emma: conca
I like Conca as a player but its a reach IMHO.
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Emma Quayle reckons we are picking Conca.
Qu. A few different thoughts on the Tigers pick 6, any idea who they will take?
Emma: conca
Can somebody please give us some background on this player. Please.
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A mate of mine (RFC supporter and WA Supporters Club past official) is involved in the Perth Footy Club and posted this to tiger-talk today in response to a question from another poster re: Conca:
Hi Paul, I posted the following back on the 6/7/2010:
From the under 18's championships, we would do well if we could recruit either one of these two WA boys who I have seen play a few games and have been very impressed.
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
*Reece Conca*
12 August 1992, 179cm, 70kg, Perth/Victorian Park
Thoroughly modern midfielder in that he plays inside and outside and does both with aplomb. Tough, durable and skillful - a handy addition to any team. Be interesting to see how he goes if, as expected, he soon breaks into the Perth senior line-up.
*Harley Bennell*
2 October 1992, 180, 70, Peel/Pinjarra
You want class? Bennell is likely to be the first player drafted from this year's U18 championships. He's ungainly at first glance because runs knock-kneed, but he's silken when he gathers pace and he reads the play before anyone else. Time and again during the championships, he ran on to the ball while others were standing still. He's a goalkicker, and he hits targets. Reminds you of an unshackled Daniel Wells.
Reece plays for my team Perth who have a habit of producing a large proportion of AFL recruits which is a bit of a bittersweet play as we get the money and the recognition but it does mean that we dont get to keep them for more than a few games in the league and they get snapped up and that leaves our league team
sitting near the bottom. Franklin and Coughlan are our two most recognised. Reece is a bit light atm but he can easily build on that. He is quick, fearless along the lines of Joel Selwood/Martin and his great disposal. Has a good head on his shoulder and bring players around him in to the game. Harley Bennell is lightning quick and forget the comparison with Wells as he is and well be an even better player than Wells who I believe is an under achiever. I dont think we have buckleys of getting either one but it would be great to dream.
There are two guys down at Perth who are both aged 20 that have seem to have been overlooked by the draft recruiters in Eades and Elari, the latter won the F&B for the WAFL colts. Eades is a lightning quick indigenous boy who has the uncanny goal sense of Leon Davis (another Perth recruit) but is a very team oriented player who has a great personality and is very easy to warm to. Ellari is like a smaller Riccuito. Built like a tank, great speed, stamina and can kick both sides over 50m. I have passed
on their names to Flea to look at as mature age recruits. As an aside, Perth General Manager is none other than Brian Leys so we have a good connection
TT
I really like Conca and he has developed further since the 6/7. I would love to see him in a Tigers jumper as he is a real thinker also similar to the way Bowden was. He rarely gets flustered on the footy field and always seems to have time to make the correct decision. I still think our chances are very slim
TT
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/94170 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/94170)
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Conca reads well just havent seen enough of him, anyone have any links to some videos?
Sean Atley for me.
Worst case scenario is
4. Gaff
5. Polec
as I havent heard any links with Atley unfortunatly. I think Conca and even Bennell just seem slightly risky. Atley is a sure bet to be a 200 gamer. Why take the risk?
Sean Atley for mine.
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would we consider Darling ? he was orginaly going to be close to top three until a little hick up... ike i said before he can play any role and if we can take Cuzzy we can handle him ...
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Scans spark draft doubt for Dyson Heppell
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
November 17, 2010 8:47PM
DYSON Heppell has quashed raging speculation he has groin problems, which sent the likely draft order into a tailspin.
Heppell, who was initially thought to go as high as pick five to Brisbane, could slip as far as No. 12 to Melbourne in what could be a coup for the Dees.
Recruiters were hastily making calls to Heppell and his family on the Gold Coast amid widespread rumours his recent groin scans were worrisome.
But the silken half-back told the Herald Sun he had not experienced any pain or problems with his groin since his osteitis pubis in 2008.
"I have had no niggles whatsoever and I keep getting calls asking about it but I have no idea what it is about," Heppell said.
"I had scans four weeks ago on my groin just as a precaution because I had it (osteitis pubis) a couple of years ago, but they're completely fine."
As revealed in the Herald Sun, Richmond is expected to pull a surprise and nab West Australian outside link man Reece Conca at tonight's AFL National Draft on the Gold Coast.
But mystery surrounds Essendon's choice at No. 8. It is understood the club is torn between Vic Country midfielders Dion Prestia and Shaun Atley.
It is believed new coach James Hird wants the speedy Atley, despite criticism of his kicking.
One club's scout described Prestia as the best natural footballer in the draft, but his height, at 175cm, had turned some clubs off.
Melbourne is tipped to happily benefit from Heppell's sudden slide as the Gippsland star was arguably the best-performed player through the second half of the TAC Cup season.
"I like to model myself on a Josh Drummond type, with his ball use with his long left-foot kicking," Heppell said.
Carlton has been linked to bulky left-foot backman Matthew Watson but was last night still tossing up the merits of bustling 190cm goalkicker Jack Darling, and could swing either way.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/scans-spark-draft-doubt-for-dyson-heppell/story-e6frf9jf-1225955188615
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Looks like it's done already!!! :o
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2010nationaldraftnews/tabid/15501/default.aspx
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Looks like it's done already!!! :o
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2010nationaldraftnews/tabid/15501/default.aspx
:lol :rollin :lol
They are either uber-prepared with a couple of web pages ready to go and someone doesn't know how to drive the website, or they have already been in discussions with Brisbane. Either way - :lol :rollin :lol
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Any of the bookmakers run a book on the draft ?? ;D
That is weird.
How the hell did you find that wayne? there is nothing on the main page to link to it. It seems like a page pre-pepared but not yet public?
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Any of the bookmakers run a book on the draft ?? ;D
That is weird.
How the hell did you find that wayne? there is nothing on the main page to link to it. It seems like a page pre-pepared but not yet public?
KB on SEN said that there was already a page up.
You just go to the latest news page on the site, then change the number at the top, increase it by one or two.
There doesn't seem to be any other pages up yet ie. Polec, Heppell or Caddy
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It's gone now.
That wrecks the surprise a little. Perhaps its misinformation. lol.
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The page has been removed. :shh
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what a farce. Honestly if thats true what a laughing stock we will be.
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Very very amateurish if we do take him
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Any of the bookmakers run a book on the draft ?? ;D
That is weird.
How the hell did you find that wayne? there is nothing on the main page to link to it. It seems like a page pre-pepared but not yet public?
KB on SEN said that there was already a page up.
You just go to the latest news page on the site, then change the number at the top, increase it by one or two.
There doesn't seem to be any other pages up yet ie. Polec, Heppell or Caddy
Yeah, I tried that to see there were any other pages waiting to become official.
It just all adds to the intrigue. Was it one of a number of pages pre written that accidentally became live or is it the page, already written waiting to be published. AS this would be done on some sort of Content management system it would be very easy for the person to hit the publish button rather than the save button. They would likely not be aware as you expect than no one would find it as there was no link on the menus added to the home page, yet someone found it. Would love to know how this page was found at all in the first place.
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Apparently RFC_Official spent yesterday making about 20 such pages;
Yep, I spent all my day yesterday afternoon uploading about 20 player profiles of players we might draft. We had a variety of players up with pics, info, etc.
We're at the draft today, so we wanted to give you guys the most comprehensive coverage possible by uploading a few profiles in advance.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19600893&postcount=555
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Apparently RFC_Official spent yesterday making about 20 such pages;
Yep, I spent all my day yesterday afternoon uploading about 20 player profiles of players we might draft. We had a variety of players up with pics, info, etc.
We're at the draft today, so we wanted to give you guys the most comprehensive coverage possible by uploading a few profiles in advance.
Sound like RFC_Official needs a refresher on how to run his CMS. :wallywink
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Apparently RFC_Official spent yesterday making about 20 such pages;
Yep, I spent all my day yesterday afternoon uploading about 20 player profiles of players we might draft. We had a variety of players up with pics, info, etc.
We're at the draft today, so we wanted to give you guys the most comprehensive coverage possible by uploading a few profiles in advance.
Sound like RFC_Official needs a refresher on how to run his CMS. :wallywink
If he still has a job.
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Wallace just said before on SEN Richmond want/need good kickers because we didn't have them under him when all the zones came in. So who we really want is Polec as he ticks all the boxes for Richmond but Conca is next best kick.
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There's also the go home factor to consider. Conca says in this interview his dream is to play for a WA side and stay in Perth so you're close to family.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/8296076/was-draft-files/
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Take him then in 2 years we can trade him to the Dockers for Stephen Hill. Sounds fair.
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Theres an interview with conca in the videos here;
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/category/afl/.
At about 5.40 he asked which club he'd prefer to go to. Not sure what to make of his answer.
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Wallace just said before on SEN Richmond want/need good kickers because we didn't have them under him when all the zones came in.
I thought that's why he drafted McMahon?
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I tried to see if google had already cached the previously mentioned page but when I clicked on the cached link it I got Dusty from last year. It must have only been up for a short while.
But you can see it was up
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Wallace just said before on SEN Richmond want/need good kickers because we didn't have them under him when all the zones came in.
I thought that's why he drafted McMahon?
It was.
Disregarding what wallace said about what or wasnt there when he was there, he could be right. The talk of conca came about the same time talk that Brisbane were going to take polec ahead of us. Could very have been polec was first choice conca second for the reason Wallace mentioned.
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I tried to see if google had already cached the previously mentioned page but when I clicked on the cached link it I got Dusty from last year. It must have only been up for a short while.
But you can see it was up
If you try the page it's still called Reece Conca and has his name in the address.
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I tried to see if google had already cached the previously mentioned page but when I clicked on the cached link it I got Dusty from last year. It must have only been up for a short while.
But you can see it was up
If you try the page it's still called Reece Conca and has his name in the address.
Yep thats correct wayne, it is in the google links page I posted. But sometimes google caches the page so you can still read it even if it has been deleted by the creator. In this case it wasn't up long enough for google to cache the content, only the link.
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rumour doing the rounds:
AFL failed to invite Conca to the Gold Coast tonight. AFL received call from us. And Conca will be on the Gold Coast tonight at the draft function.
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rumour doing the rounds:
AFL failed to invite Conca to the Gold Coast tonight. AFL received call from us. And Conca will be on the Gold Coast tonight at the draft function.
yeah media got wind of this late last night or first thing this morning - so media has put 2 and 2 together hence they have conca going to us in the phantom drafts.
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Theres an interview with conca in the videos here;
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/category/afl/.
At about 5.40 he asked which club he'd prefer to go to. Not sure what to make of his answer.
here's the transcript of what he said:
Q: Do you have a club preference?
A: Nah, it's not really much of a concern, sorta just lucky to be picked up at the end. If I could stay in Perth, it would probably be better than moving away. But I do enjoy moving away, the independenet sort of stuff, be a good experience both ways. I just want to play AFL footy, it doesn't really matter.
Pretty much just what any draftee would say. Don't see any problems with him returning home to Perth.
i honestly don't see anything wrong with that, nothing to be worried about. If u interviewed any of the draftees that's the type of answer u'd get, prefer to stay in the home state but doesn't matter either way, just want to play footy.
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I like the fact that he's durable - played about a 100 games in the last two years.
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Edit: removed
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Is it televised?
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That's interesting OE but if it is true do you think there might be some danger in posting it? OK the clubs been stupid but can we do damage if other clubs got hold of that list? I'm sure that's not you intention, just saying. :)
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Is it televised?
Foxtel only. Fox Sports 1
Also i just heard from a mate over in Adelaide if you want every selection live instead of hearing about them crap then you must press the RED BUTTON on your foxtel remote
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I removed the names from the post but seriously they aren't hard to find so anyone can publicly access them. Hasn't the club IT guy heard of chmod ::)
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He probably hasn't OE. I've dealt with supposed IT people who don't even know what Linux is.
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I will be very happy to see Conca come to the tigers, he has a very clean kick with right and left foot and looks too be a very smart footballer on the afl web sight.
If we dont pick him i would be wrapped with Caddy.
:gotigers
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He probably hasn't OE. I've dealt with supposed IT people who don't even know what Linux is.
I know what it is Al. Actually, what's Windows? ;)
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:lol