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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2010, 07:16:57 PM
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Reece Conca
Height: 185cm
Weight: 79kg
DOB: 12/08/92
Club: Perth (WA)
Video: http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/297361/reece-conca/
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/concarcomb_a.jpg)
Kevin Sheehan says: Versatile player who can play forward, midfield or back. His ability to run and carry and his football smarts were prominent in representing WA at the Under-18 Championships this year. Averaged 18 disposals at 79 per cent efficiency.
Stats (aggregate for 2010 U18s National Championships)
Games K H D M G H/O
5 46 46 92 24 1 0
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Welcome to Tigerland Reece :thumbsup
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Congratulations Reece, welcome to Richmond.
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Congratulations Reece. Good luck in the Yellow and Black. Wear it with pride. :thumbsup
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As someone here said before a Joel Bowden look-a-like going by that pic.
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As someone here said before a Joel Bowden look-a-like going by that pic.
Then expect the forum to be in meltdown if he gets cheap stats. :lol :rollin :lol
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As someone here said before a Joel Bowden look-a-like going by that pic.
Then expect the forum to in meltdown if he gets cheap stats. :lol :rollin :lol
Beat me to it Tucker :jump :jump :ROTFL
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Good Player and a Good Safe Selection. Wish him all the best. :gotigers
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could we have done better?
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good luck to the lad, one of us now :)
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
You'll find out in 5 years
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could we have done better?
Like Infamy said, let's wait 5 years.
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Looked good from the package they showed on Fox. Seemed to win his own ball, strong in contested situations with beautiful kicking skills. :thumbsup When I first heard we were getting him I thought - Why! Now knowing he did not perform well in the Combine because of his injury and seeing th package of him has put my mind more at ease. By all reports is a natural leader too!
Time will tell but regardless - he's a Tiger now so he has my support :gotigers
Stripes
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I dont think our problem from this draft will be Conca. It will be whether or not we can find even just 1 player from 30, 47, 51 and 63. Casino stuff tonight at those picks. I hope they come off but if they dont, its over for Jackson and Cameron. You cant do this roulette wheel stuff if your recruiting for Richmond. Anyway, lets see what happens.
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Reece is the word
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg 7:10 PM Thu 18 Nov, 2010
Richmond has snared gun West Australian midfielder, Reece Conca, with its first selection in the 2010 AFL National Draft.
The Tigers’ Recruitment Manager, Francis Jackson, had no hesitation in reading out Conca’s name at tonight’s (Thursday, November 18) Draft, held on the Gold Coast.
Conca had been penciled in by the Tigers as their No. 1 Draft choice for several months.
The 18-year-old, from WAFL club Perth, had thoroughly convinced Tiger talent scouts he was their man at the No. 6 selection overall in the Draft, due to his excellent all-round football skills, versatility, and impressive leadership qualities.
In 2010, Conca was vice-captain of the WA team at the under-18 National Championships, and he was considered unlucky not to be named as an All-Australian.
At WAFL level, he worked his way up from Perth’s colts team to senior ranks late in the season and had an immediate impact, highlighted by a best-on-ground performance in just his fifth game, against ladder leader Claremont.
“We’ve been very keen on Reece since Round 1 of the WAFL this year. I saw him (in the colts) against East Fremantle, where he had 35 touches and dominated,” Jackson said.
“All-up, he played only seven colts games this year, one in which he was injured, yet still managed to finish equal sixth in the competition’s Jack Clarke Medal, after six best-on-ground performances.
“He’s just such a well-rounded player. He’s got high endurance, really good speed and outstanding lateral movement and awareness. I’m sure that his peripheral awareness, and understanding of what’s happening around him, is a direct result of him playing soccer up until the age of 13.
“Not only does he win a lot of the ball, he’s a very, very good user of it. Out of all the kicking profiles that we’ve done, his is the best. He can take a good mark, his decision-making is outstanding, and his ability to win one-on-one footy, as well as win outside footy, is just a joy to watch.
“We’ve tracked his progress closely all year, watched him play live every game, and he doesn’t appear to have any weaknesses.
“I’m sure when Tiger supporters look at his highlights’ package on our website, they’ll realise why we’re so delighted to have picked him up.”
Conca’s intelligence is not merely confined to the football field . . .
“He has been doing a commerce/psychology degree at Trinity College in Perth, but he deferred this semester,” Jackson said.
“We gave all our psych tests from the Draft Combine at the end of the season to the Club’s psychologist, Kim Stephens. He didn’t know any of the players - all he had was 30 names, with 30 psych profiles for different tests - and Reece came out No. 1.
“So, he’s the complete package . . . an outstanding kid."
Jackson had a nervous wait along the way, fearing one of the clubs with selections before Richmond early in the Draft, would take Conca.
“He had an ankle injury later in the season and subsequently had a bit of a bone spur removed through surgery, which meant he missed the last two rounds and the Colts finals - but I was more than happy with that,” Jackson said.
“We even had to hide our interest from former Richmond player, Brian Leys, who is the CEO of Perth, because we were so keen on him and didn’t want other clubs finding out.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105377/default.aspx
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Conca was briefly interviewed on SEN
* Found out Tuesday night that the Tigers were in the mix.
* Ready for the challenge of moving to Vic. Mum giving him tips. Enjoying Melbourne.
* Want to get stuck into preseason as soon as possible. If can play round 1 it'll be a real buzz. Do what he ever can to make the team.
* Models himself and his game on Ryan Griffen.
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I find Griffen laborious and predictable. Doesn't do enough against the better opposition clubs. Seems to jut his chest out against us alot. I hope Reece has more consistency.
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2010 National Draft - Reece Conca pick 6
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/conca246.jpg)
DOB: 12/8/92
Height: 185cm
Weight: 79kg
Club: Perth
WATCH REECE CONCA HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/314409/default.aspx
What the RFC recruiters say:
Reece is a wonderfully balanced midfielder who is equally adept at winning contested and uncontested ball. He has an excellent work rate with good speed and elite lateral movement. He competes well, has outstanding composure and vision with the ball in his hand and is a very good user by both hand and foot.
Reece played seven games at colts level in the early part of the year and dominated to such an extent that he came in the top 6 of the league best and fairest despite his lack of games. He had a strong carnival for WA in a team that failed to beat any of the other three division one teams and was extremely unlucky not to be named as an All-Australian.
When Reece returned to Perth he was elevated to the senior team and immediately looked comfortable at the higher level. The highlight of his five league games was a 27 possession game (25 effective) against the ladder leaders Claremont in just his second game.
The club is extremely excited to have Reece at the club and feel he will add to our ever growing band of quality midfielders as well as having significant impact on the group off the field with his strong leadership qualities.
In his own words:
What type of player are you?
A confident player who works hard on and off the football field. A real team-oriented and leadership figure who enjoys all aspects of football and strives for success.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Ryan Griffen - because of his ability to run and carry along with the fact he can play multiple positions effectively. He’s an honest and fair player who seems a real leader at his club.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
I have the versatility to play multiple positions, ability to play inside and outside, good leadership, and the ability to run and carry.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
My goal kicking, tackling, and physicality around contests.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
Sydney Swans - Paul Kelly was and still is my AFL idol and watching him growing up made me support the Swans and inspired my thirst to play AFL.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/2010NationalDraftNews/ReeceConca/tabid/15501/Default.aspx
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I dont think our problem from this draft will be Conca. It will be whether or not we can find even just 1 player from 30, 47, 51 and 63. Casino stuff tonight at those picks. I hope they come off but if they dont, its over for Jackson and Cameron. You cant do this roulette wheel stuff if your recruiting for Richmond. Anyway, lets see what happens.
Not sure its quite roulettle wheel stuff ramps, the vision of Mconald and the big ruckman alone is pretty encouraging!! Helbig looks like he can play a bit too...Time will tell I guess, but I'm generally pretty satisfied when i see ppl have a clear plan/vision and follow it through, whether its right we'll see soon enough, but its definitely not hit and hope stuff. On the whole for mine, the lot of them look the safe type, not really speculative, all natural footballers
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Some pics....
Here's Reece receiving his Tiger jumper from Dimma....
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/220634.jpg)
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/220611.jpg)
Reece in his Richmond polo
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/220626.jpg)
Reece on stage wearing his Richmond jumper
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/main/220594.jpg)
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I dont think our problem from this draft will be Conca. It will be whether or not we can find even just 1 player from 30, 47, 51 and 63. Casino stuff tonight at those picks. I hope they come off but if they dont, its over for Jackson and Cameron. You cant do this roulette wheel stuff if your recruiting for Richmond. Anyway, lets see what happens.
Not sure its quite roulettle wheel stuff ramps, the vision of Mconald and the big ruckman alone is pretty encouraging!! Helbig looks like he can play a bit too...Time will tell I guess, but I'm generally pretty satisfied when i see ppl have a clear plan/vision and follow it through, whether its right we'll see soon enough, but its definitely not hit and hope stuff. On the whole for mine, the lot of them look the safe type, not really speculative, all natural footballers
The vision of the Ruckman is promising.
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Some pre-draft articles on Conca.....
Genes are kind to top junior prospect Conca
CRAIG O'DONOGHUE
The West Australian
May 29, 2010
Genes play a huge part in an athlete's chances of success. Gary Ablett has benefitted from the genes passed on to him by a brilliant father and players regularly tell stories about their parents having good sporting careers as youngsters.
But for Perth midfielder Reece Conca, much of his success can be attributed to the gene that he avoided rather than the one that his parents passed on.
Conca is the exception in his family. His dad Loui, mum Gina, elder brother Luke and twin sister Cassie are all between 160-170cm tall. Yet Reece towers above them at 182cm.
Short players rarely get drafted. West Coast defied that process last year by selecting 169cm Claremont forward Ryan Neates and rookie listing his 167cm teammate Lewis Broome, but it's tough to succeed in the AFL when you're restricted by height.
"Everyone asks me where I get my height from. I don't really know," Conca said. "It's a bit of a blessing to have the height. Dad and Luke are handy footballers, but it's a lot harder for shorter players."
Conca has lived and breathed football for most of his life. Living across the road from a park, he and Luke battled through their own mini-wars after school and on weekends.
It became apparent from an early age that Conca had outstanding talent. He played a year above his age group once he turned 13, made his WAFL colts debut as a 15-year-old and represented Western Australia at under-15 and under-16 levels.
He is vice-captain of the WA under-18 team and will be a key player in today's match against South Australia at AAMI Stadium.
Now studying psychology and commerce at university, Conca captained Trinity College and combined school football with games for his junior club and Perth. In 2008 and 2009, Conca played about 100 games.
A hard-running, highly-skilled on-baller who is damaging around stoppages and has a similar style to Bulldog Ryan Griffen, Conca said playing so much football had brought his game to another level.
"It's been footy all the time for about four or five years," Conca said.
"I played 60 games in 2008 and at least 30 or 40 in every other year. The State team takes priority now so it's just them and Perth colts.
"Early on in footy I played a fair bit across half-back. But in the last couple of years I've been an inside midfielder."
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/7312948/genes-are-kind-to-top-junior-prospect-conca/
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Reece Conca – 2010 AFL Draft Prospect
contestedfooty.com
Age: 18
Position: Defender
History: Reece Conca is a versatile player who has good kicking skills. He is of medium height (185cm) and medium weight (79kg), maybe a little bit light but not too bad for a draftee.
Reece Conca reads the play pretty well which makes the best use of his running and carrying abilities. It enables his to find the best way to get past players and get a disposal off in time.
He can play all over the ground and as such collects pretty good statistics for disposals. Reece Conca had an average of 18 at 79% efficiency at the AFL Under-18 Championships.
Conca is a little soft so cannot play an inside midfield role at the moment but that might change with a bit of bulking up after a couple of pre-seasons.
Reece Conca was WA’s vice-captain in the U18 Championships where he was very good in their game against South Australia.
Statistics Playing for Perth in the 2010 Colt’s League:
Total Average
Team Perth Perth
Gm 5 5
Disp 92 18.4
Kck 54 10.8
Mrk 29 5.8
Hbl 38 7.6
Tkl 10 2
Gls 0 0
Bhd 1 0.2
F/F 5 1
F/A 3 0.6
H/O 0 0
In50 4 0.8
PRS 362 72.4
http://www.contestedfooty.com/2010/11/reece-conca-%E2%80%93-2010-afl-draft-prospect/
WAFL Seniors stats:
http://wafl.pro-stats.com.au/wafl/web/player_profile?pid=96277
WAFL Colts stats:
http://colts.pro-stats.com.au/colts/web/player_profile?pid=96277
BigFooty thread on Conca
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=743783
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Reece Conca (Perth/WA) – Draft Profile
182/75 inside utility
Similar style to Travis Boak
Capable of sustaining a ranking of 4-10 within an AFL list
Selling points
lateral movement/evasiveness, hard running/work ethic/intensity, defensive pressure, clean hands, all-round ball winning skills, quick first step, vision and disposal by hand in traffic (releases players effectively)
His trademark is to slide-gather and get up and go in the motion – turns opponents inside out.
Only OK to decent pace over distance, but his quick first step and agility buys him time and can get him out of tricky situations.
Footskills are sound – generally neat and reliable over short range, but perhaps lacks a bit of depth/penetration over longer distances.
Very busy player that’s always on the move
No major queries
Conca is a player that’s grown on me the whole season - I confident he will be a good to very good versatile small midfield/utility (can play a number of midfield roles including inside, tagger, play-linker, as a small defender or defensive small forward) that has the potential to be a high end B grade player.
Will play AFL next year and quite possibly quite a decent amount (more than 10 games), due to his previous senior experience, work-rate and versatility but probably needs another 7-10kg to reach his ideal AFL weight which will take about 3-4 pre-seasons.
WA vice captain
2010 WAFL League (5 games) 18D, 6M, 2T
2010 WAFL Colts (7 games) 23D, 5M, 2T, 1G
http://afldraftinfo.blogspot.com/2010/10/reece-conca-perthwa-draft-profile.html
(http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/450/2010/06/28/211306.jpg) (http://images.watoday.com.au/2010/07/12/1688907/Conca--Reece-3-600x400.jpg)
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Summary from Inside Football....
REECE CONCA
forward/midfield
Perth, WA
Born: 12/8/92
Ht: 182cm
Wt: 76kg
"Reece is a midfielder who played state 18s this year and was the vice captain of that side. Played 10 games of Colts footy and seven games of league footy. Playing midfield and half back and at Colts level he was the premier midfielder of the competition. He's a quick inside player with outstanding skills, exceptional speed and great ball handling skills. When he went up to league level he was able to perform like he had.in the Colts and had a couple of best on ground efforts. There's a good chance he'll be top 10 I reckon." - Perth coach Damien McMahon
WA representative 2010.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=12125.0
Summary from Snoop's phantom draft on BF:
Selection # 20
Reece Conca – Perth /184cm / 76kg
Profile : Really like this kid but a bit unsure where he lands principally because he doesn’t have a heap of standout features. Notwithstanding, you have a kid that has had a super Colts year and has played some really good state league footy (5 games incl a BOG vs Claremont). Backed that all up with a series of good performances at the Champs where he averaged 18-20 touches at a whopping 80% efficiency and hence I think will go higher than most think. Would describe him just as a very smart footy player who can play anywhere over the park. Good overhead, skills better than what you probably think but it’s how he finds space, the second efforts, chasing and tackling which mark him as a determined young footballer who will definitely go pretty well with his AFL career. The knock I think is these blokes often go a bit later because there is no obvious x factor but plenty of his type have proven recruiters wrong over last few years .FWIW – this kid is no dill either as he is doing a double degree (phys and commerce)!
Similar to: I see a bit of Jim Kelly
Draft Range: 12 - 30
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=771940
Summary from Quigley's phantom draft on BF:
Pick 50
Reece Conca
DOB 12/8/92 Ht 185 Wt 79
I have Conca well down the list compared to some because I struggle to see where he is going to play in the AFL. He will probably be sold as a half back but he is not a great defensive player and on the rebound he is pretty good but nothing to write home about. He has a lot of reasonable skills but nothing about him demands “pick me”. What he has done to date is be able to continue to step up and continue to get the ball and influence the game as he has progressed through leagues. He had a very solid Champs for an average WA team averaging 18 possessions a game and when he got the chance in the WAFL at the end of the year he continued to progress and picked up 19 disposals a game.
He has mid range pace and mid range athleticism all around. So not slow but not particularly quick either. When he is in the midfield he plays as an outside in player who occasionally will win a clearance but plays mostly as a receiver. Probably his best skill is his ability to find space. He has a great sense of where to go to receive uncontested ball no matter where on the park he is playing. He needs to improve his endurance to take full advantage of this and if he can he could be a good ball winner at AFL level. He gets quite a lot of marks (5 per game at the Champs) but this is usually because he gets to space so well rather than because he is a good mark of the ball. That is not to say he is a poor mark but I think he is not up there with the better marks in the draft and he does drop a few he should take.
His kicking is solid and it probably tends to look better than it is because he takes his time and takes good options. He is very right footed and the need to get onto his right can sometimes get him into trouble. He gets to space well and this gives him time to evaluate the situation and not be rushed. The determination not to be rushed does often tend to see him slow down the play too much which is not going to fly well in the AFL where that often allows defences to reset and makes things difficult. As mentioned he takes quite a lot of marks but when he takes his marks he invariably stops and props and if he doesn’t go back over the mark he certainly slows things down. He rarely just takes the mark and takes off. He does not have a forward mentality and if he gets the ball inside 50 his first instinct is to pass off. Add to that that he is a relatively poor tackler who does not work hard enough defensively and I think he has a way to go before he will be playing AFL football unless it is for a team looking to blood their young players early. I see him as a leader and he was one of the more vocal players in the WA team. He could be seen getting in there and trying to rev up his players at the breaks at the Champs.
Overall I see him as someone who could go anywhere between 20 and 50. He does not have a lot of weapons but I am sure someone will see something they like.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=774682
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eugh, i think like a lot of people i only have highlights to judge him off, but i really like his ability grab the loose ball. There is actually a bit to like about him, seems to find options with ease. very instinctive about his disposal. i can see the attraction!
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Good luck to him. Welcome on board. Hope you has a long and successful career at the club
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Tigers came, saw, Conca-d
* Jay Clark
* From: Herald Sun
* November 18, 2010 9:34PM
IF RICHMOND didn't already have the makings of an elite midfield, it does now.
I'ts a suggestion that is fraught with danger, given the Tigers' chequered draft history. But the addition of smooth-moving wingman Reece Conca at the national draft last night was a clear statement of intent from the revived Richmond.
It wants a superpower centre line. With Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, three first-round draft choices, plus Nathan Foley, it might have it.
Conca, who was told on Tuesday he would be snapped up by the yellow and black, said the club had grand plans.
"They would like me to slot in and complement those guys in the midfield, which would just be great," Conca said.
"Thats the focus at Richmond, to build that midfield.
"We've got Jack Rielwoldt in the forward line and some really good young players.
"Cotchin and Martin managed to play some games in their first years and be quite successful and if I could follow in their foot steps in that regard I'd be over the moon."
Click here to see our ratings of every club at the draft and cast your vote
But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
"It was only about half an hour before the drafted started, I was pretty excited to have that come up because it gave me a little bit of time to know you were definitely going to the club, he said. "It took a little bit of the nerves out of it."
Conca, who was a dominant player for Western Australia at the recent national championships, is far from an outside-only player. He prides himself on his tough work in tight and strength over the ball. And his efficiency by foot is a lethal asset.
But the No.6 draft choice has not been kind in recent years.
Talent guru Kevin Sheehan rated pick six a tricky one, saying the best player picked with it in draft history was the relatively unknown Fremantle player James Walker.
Some would say the number has been "cursed", in a tongue-in-cheek way. Conca is hoping to change the pattern.
"I have heard a little bit about that, I'm just glad to be going somewhere," he said.
"My good friend David Myers went same number, same local club as well, Vic Park.
"Im just stoked to go top-10 let alone number six. If I can break that trend ill be happy."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-came-saw-conca-d/story-e6frf9jf-1225955964046
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Fiora anyone?
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I can't wait for the headlines in his first BOG effort for us... "Reece Conca's all!" :thumbsup
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Fiora anyone?
Ridiculous comparison
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Tigers came, saw, Conca-d
* Jay Clark
* From: Herald Sun
* November 18, 2010 9:34PM
But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
"It was only about half an hour before the drafted started, I was pretty excited to have that come up because it gave me a little bit of time to know you were definitely going to the club, he said. "It took a little bit of the nerves out of it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-came-saw-conca-d/story-e6frf9jf-1225955964046
Spin??
:shh
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Tigers came, saw, Conca-d
* Jay Clark
* From: Herald Sun
* November 18, 2010 9:34PM
But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
"It was only about half an hour before the drafted started, I was pretty excited to have that come up because it gave me a little bit of time to know you were definitely going to the club, he said. "It took a little bit of the nerves out of it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-came-saw-conca-d/story-e6frf9jf-1225955964046
Spin??
:shh
Not Spin
Spin and a half is more correct!
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Tigers came, saw, Conca-d
* Jay Clark
* From: Herald Sun
* November 18, 2010 9:34PM
But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
"It was only about half an hour before the drafted started, I was pretty excited to have that come up because it gave me a little bit of time to know you were definitely going to the club, he said. "It took a little bit of the nerves out of it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-came-saw-conca-d/story-e6frf9jf-1225955964046
Spin??
:shh
Ummm....yeah!! What a heap of clap trap! If a hacker was going to do the dirty on our site they would have been far more creative than just adding a potential draftee to the site. Gimme a break!! What do they take us for, idiots?? The Clubs Web designer stuffed up. I work with CMS every day and as you are working with live pages, its actually really easy to stuff up if you click the wrong button. Next thing they will do is probably use the old "Hoax Virus attack" chestnut.
I actually head a funny thing the other day where a senior IT Guy told a junior IT person to cover his stuff up with a Hoax virus attack. When the junior questioned his suggestion, the senior IT guy said..."I always use that excuse. How do you think I made it to 30 years in IT??" :lol
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Tigers came, saw, Conca-d
* Jay Clark
* From: Herald Sun
* November 18, 2010 9:34PM
But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
"It was only about half an hour before the drafted started, I was pretty excited to have that come up because it gave me a little bit of time to know you were definitely going to the club, he said. "It took a little bit of the nerves out of it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-came-saw-conca-d/story-e6frf9jf-1225955964046
Spin??
:shh
Ummm....yeah!! What a heap of clap trap! If a hacker was going to do the dirty on our site they would have been far more creative than just adding a potential draftee to the site. Gimme a break!! What do they take us for, idiots?? The Clubs Web designer stuffed up. I work with CMS every day and as you are working with live pages, its actually really easy to stuff up if you click the wrong button. Next thing they will do is probably use the old "Hoax Virus attack" chestnut.
I actually head a funny thing the other day where a senior IT Guy told a junior IT person to cover his stuff up with a Hoax virus attack. When the junior questioned his suggestion, the senior IT guy said..."I always use that excuse. How do you think I made it to 30 years in IT??" :lol
Totally agree a hacker would have done alot worse
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Pretty impressive highlights package. Clean hands , good skills , seems to choose the right option each time , nice evasive skills and also went back with the flight a few times and didn't flinch. I like it :thumbsup
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But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
Spin??
:shh
Nah it's a misquote. It was supposed to read Yesterday morning a hack uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website.
:rollin
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But there was a hiccup. Yesterday morning a hacker uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website. While it was a touch embarrassing for the club, it was something of a nice surprise for its latest star draft choice.
Spin??
:shh
Nah it's a misquote. It was supposed to read Yesterday morning a hack uploaded a profile of Conca and linked to Richmond's website.
:rollin
Thought Caro was on the GC covering the draft. Maybe she caught a late flight up. ;)
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Video of Reece's post-draft interview
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/314608/default.aspx
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Seems like a really nice kid with a brain between his ears. Really looking forward to see him play his first game. Also from the footage I've seen he appears to have a really good core strength like Dusty.
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Fiora anyone?
That has to be the most silliest 2 words someone has posted on here for a while.
You have never even seen the kid run out onto the park wearing a Tigers jumper and you make that silly comment.
I bet you were the kid at xmas time that after you opened your presents and saw you had a new shinny bike, brand new helmet, new playstation and a $100 voucher at JB Hi-Fi turned around and said - but where is my baseball mit.
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Cartman lol, wheres my red mega Mechaman a-sshole???
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According to this article;
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/11/18/tigers-get-a-demon/
Essendon were to take conca at 8 if we didn't.
The Tigers and Essendon established strong interest in the hard-running on-baller with the Bombers also expected to take Conca had he been available for their first choice at number eight.
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10 things about Reece
richmondfc.com.au
5:27 PM Fri 19 Nov, 2010
1. He is of Italian descent.
2. He has a twin sister, Cassie.
3. He towers over the rest of his immediate family - Cassie, elder brother Luke, mum Gina, and dad Loui, who are all between 160cm-170cm tall.
4. His grandparents run Conca’s Family Restaurant in Perth, where the specialty of the house is chilli mussels.
5. He made his WAFL colts debut with Perth Football Club as a 15-year-old.
6. He played about 60 games of football combined in the 2008 season, for his school team, Trinity College, his junior club, Victoria Park, and Perth.
7. He was vice-captain of the WA team at this year’s under-18 National Championships.
8. He grew up barracking for the Sydney Swans and idolised their courageous captain, Paul Kelly.
9. He wore guernsey No. 16 in senior ranks with Perth this year.
10. He joins a proud band of redheads at Tigerland.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105458/default.aspx
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Late thursdy night sen was discussing conca.
Said e was a mix of ziebell and griffien
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fairly loft comparrison, maybe it's just me, but I reckon he might be better :shh
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I wanted Gaff until I saw this kid's highlight reel.
G U N
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I was downright p#%$@ off when I saw that the rumours of this unknown Conca had been well founded. The fact that, not only did we miss out on Polec, but also overlooked Heppell had me shaking my head. Then I read that we had wanted this kid from the start and had been secreting him away from the rest of the footy world to ensure we got him. Next I saw the highlight package that the club had assembled on him.
Now I've done a full 360 degrees. What an absolute gun this kid looks. All the Griffins comparisons don't do him justice. The way he gives and gets, breaks packs, scoops up the ball, makes clever decisions under pressure, lays tackles and cleanly desposes of the ball reminds me of a young Benny Cousins. I'm amazed that the other clubs before us in the draft didn't take him because he has a better highlight package than all of them.
He's even played and performed well at senior footy. Doesn't look like he has 'X-factor' but he stands out like dogs testies with his skills and awareness. His leadership skills will be fantastic for the future club culture too.
To make matters even better, now I hear that the Bombers were also keeping their interest in him quiet and were downright annoyed when we took him two spots before they had a chance.
I very excited about this kid :gotigers
Stripes
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i think you mean you've done a 180 ;D
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pee off gerk, get a life you snotty nosed teenager.
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i think you mean you've done a 180 ;D
hahaha .. he's right!!
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pee off gerk, get a life you snotty nosed teenager.
poodle bandit
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pee off gerk, get a life you snotty nosed teenager.
poodle bandit
Another classy post :sleep
Did I ever tell you about the first time I sat in the Southern Stand? It's a bloody good story mate
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unless it involves reece conca, probably best left for another time, like after your next stretch off with owl
i too am impressed with "concs", looks like a good kid, wonder if they'll give him the #32
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Fair call, Poodledawg. Where is Owl?
#32 is reserved for the return of Tiv.
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I agree with Stripes. I can see the comparison with Cuz but based on the highlight reel, I think Reece has a bit more legs speed and is probably a better kick. But he definitely has Cuz's poise under pressure and always seems to hit players in good attacking position which was Cuz's trademark.
I can see a truckload of goal assists coming from this kid! I can also see why the club had him penciled in so early and I actual fact I would have probably taken him over everyone except Swallow.
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades. 8)
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The future's so bright I gotta wear shades. 8)
I love the off-season! :thumbsup
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haha offseason, a team of champions !!! He does look good though.
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The future's so bright I gotta wear shades. 8)
I love the off-season! :thumbsup
lol...time to build a new trophy cabinet
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Reece is about to be 3aw with Gerard Healy and Dwayne Russell
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Has he been on yet? ive just tuned in!
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Yep Reece was just on before 7pm calling in from a restaurant toilet :wallywink
* Agreed with Healy's summary that he liken to Ryan Griffen
* He was having dinner with some of the Tiger boys at a restaurant so had to snuck into the loo to do the interview lol.
* Paul Kelly was his hero as a kid. Had the No.14 on his back.
* Skin folds are 40. Parents run a kebabs/souvalaki business in WA so he needs to stay away from the kebabs.
* He needed to be invited to the Gold Coast the day before so everything had to be kept hush hush. Russell of course had to bring up that his name was released pre-draft on the RFC website.
* Started with the Perth Colts (U18s) and progressed through to the ressies and seniors in the WAFL. Pretty comfortable playing senior footy as he's quick.
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Youtube vision of Reece Conca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyWCJMHQ2s&feature=player_embedded
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In praise of Reece
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Fri 03 Dec, 2010
As the CEO of WAFL club, Perth, Brian Leys would love to have young gun Reece Conca strutting his stuff in the team’s midfield next year.
Leys, however, is proud that Conca was taken so high (pick six overall) in the recent AFL National Draft. And, he’s even happier the 18-year-old will be carving out his league career at Richmond.
From 1988-94, Leys played 110 senior games with the Tigers, providing the Club with solid service in his role as a defender.
After leaving Punt Road, Leys enjoyed considerable success at SANFL club Port Adelaide, playing in four premierships.
He was appointed CEO at Perth just over a year ago, and in that time has got to know Reece Conca well . . .
“Reece is a fantastic kid,” Leys said.
“He’s got wonderful leadership qualities . . . he’s a natural leader. He slipped into our senior side, and in his second game he had 29 possessions against the top team Claremont.
“I spoke to Richard Taylor (Richmond recruiting officer) when he was over here throughout the year, and he asked me what sort of kid he is. I said, ‘if you want a kid who’s got perfect character, has had a great upbringing, and is a wonderful citizen, that’s Reece Conca’.
“He’s got a fantastic family, who have a restaurant just around the corner from Lathlain Oval (Perth’s home ground). So, any time Richmond supporters are in town, they have to come down to Perth, and they also have to eat at Conca’s Restaurant.”
So enamored was Leys with Conca, he even sang his praises to a couple of his old Tiger teammates, who are still very much involved at Punt Road these days.
“I had him booked in at Tigerland early . . . I spoke to ‘Flea’ (Dale Weightman) and ‘Benny’ (Brendon Gale) about him. I just said, ‘this kid can play’.
“And, I’d been joking with him for three or four months that was going to the Tigers, and giving him a bit of a history lesson about the Club.”
Leys has no doubts that Conca will totally embrace Richmond.
“Reece has embraced this place, firstly as a colts player, and then as a senior player,” he said.
“While he was waiting to get drafted, he was down here training a couple of nights a week with the boys. And, he didn’t strut around like he was about to get drafted, either.
“He’s been grateful to be involved with Perth Footy Club, and now he’s grateful to be involved with Richmond.
“He’s got a smile on his face due to the fact that he’s going to a club that’s been around for over a hundred years . . . It’s in the heart of Melbourne, and he gets to play virtually every second week during the season at the MCG. I don’t think people realise what it’s like to get drafted and have the MCG as your home ground.
“I’m sure he’ll repay Richmond’s faith in him and go on to be a top player for the Club, for many years.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105891/default.aspx
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The more I think about it the more I like Reece. :thumbsup
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Any news on our pick 6?
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Reece was still in the rehab group leading into Christmas as he was coming off pre-draft ankle surgery. The Club said he'll play early on in the season next year though as a outside mid.
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Reece was still in the rehab group leading into Christmas as he was coming off pre-draft ankle surgery. The Club said he'll play early on in the season next year though as a outside mid.
would have loved to have seen him play carlton round 1
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He'll resume full training after the Christmas break, So he may still be inline to play round 1 depending on how well he recovers/trains.
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He'll resume full training after the Christmas break, So he may still be inline to play round 1 depending on how well he recovers/trains.
First year draftee - it would be hard to imagine him being forward enough for Round 1 if he is only starting full training after Christmas. My uninformed stab at this premature stage would be Round 4-6 at the earliest.
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Reece Conca out to conquer in the midfield
Matt Windley
Herald Sun
January 07, 2011
RICHMOND recruit Reece Conca can't wait to play alongside Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Nathan Foley in the Tigers' midfield next season.
Conca, Richmond's first pick in the national draft, starred in the midfield for WAFL club Perth and for Western Australia's under-18 team last year.
Softly spoken Conca, 18, who admits to setting himself lofty goals, has every intention of doing the same for Richmond.
"I'd love to slot into the midfield somewhere alongside Cotchin and Martin," he said yesterday.
"If not, a wing or half-back, but anywhere in that midfield sort of area."
Conca started his pre-season in Richmond's rehab group, after ankle surgery late last season, but expects to start full training next week, when the players return from their Christmas break.
"Nathan Foley and Trent Cotchin have both been in the rehab group with me and I've been sticking pretty close to them and seeing what they do," he said. "It's pretty exciting."
Conca's name shot to prominence only days before the November 18 draft and his selection at No. 6 surprised many pundits.
Even he was caught on the hop when Richmond recruiter Francis Jackson told him of the Tigers' plans.
"We had a pretty lengthy interview at the draft camp, but apart from that there wasn't really much contact," he said.
"Then Francis flew over a couple of nights before the draft and said they'd take me at pick No. 6.
"Before that I was sort of looking at maybe going to Port Adelaide at pick No. 16 or the Dockers at No. 20.
"I couldn't wipe the smile off my face because it came out of nowhere."
Conca's story could have been so different. His Italian background pushed him towards soccer and he did not play Aussie Rules until high school.
He is only 183cm, but said he obviously avoided a family gene - his parents, older brother and twin sister are shorter than 170cm.
"I've grown a bit over the last year or so, so that's probably been an advantage," he said. "Now I just need to put on a bit more weight and get that fitness base up."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/reece-conca-out-to-conquer-in-the-midfield/story-e6frf9jf-1225983185727
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Reece Conca gets ready for the rookie photo (courtesy of RFC twitter)
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/222756648.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1294625179&Signature=T%2FBH0EhxoYLB5De%2FtTQ9jgVrLqQ%3D)
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Reece Conca answering a few questions at the 2011 AFL Players Association Induction Camp:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AFLPA?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/NXT-LNfkU7U (http://www.youtube.com/user/AFLPA?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/NXT-LNfkU7U)
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Reece Conca interview by SportsNewsFirst
Video:
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/data/media/00000001/00002143/new-layout.flv (http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/data/media/00000001/00002143/new-layout.flv)
If the above doesn't work you can access the video via this article:
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/02/01/reece-set-to-conquer-all-stars/
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Love your work One-Eyed :bow
Is it any wonder that OER is the best Tiger forum goin' around?
(now update the banner with Wayne's beautiful new artwork ;) ;D)
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Love your work One-Eyed :bow
Is it any wonder that OER is the best Tiger forum goin' around?
(now update the banner with Wayne's beautiful new artwork ;) ;D)
Suck.
:lol
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65 you are a knocker ;D
Edited: cut the sniping
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Suck.
:lol
Don't listen to him one-eyed, I love you man, I stuffing love you :-*
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65 you are a knocker ;D
Moron
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Suck.
:lol
Don't listen to him one-eyed, I love you man, I effing love you :-*
A better response than your mate Davey.
:thumbsup
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65 you are a knocker ;D
Moron
(http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/nathan_sharpe_fishing.jpg)
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Main Page update is a WIP but(fingers crossed) should be finished mid Feb - when I am on a couple of weeks holiday
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(now update the banner with Wayne's beautiful new artwork ;) ;D)
Main Page update is a WIP but(fingers crossed) should be finished mid Feb - when I am on a couple of weeks holiday
So it's a race between the main page update and a front of jumper sponsor :lol
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Suck.
:lol
Don't listen to him one-eyed, I love you man, I effing love you :-*
A better response than your mate Davey.
:thumbsup
I liked "Moron", that was an absolute classic :thumbsup
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Footy Idol - the AFL's young guns
Jon Ralph
Sunday Herald Sun
February 06, 2011
SOME are bluebloods. Others are kids from the bush hoping to transform their lives.
All of them encapsulate the hopes and dreams of supporters and football clubs alike.
They are the new names on show for the opening round of the NAB Cup next weekend. Before long they could be the competition's next headline acts. JON RALPH reports.
REECE CONCA - Richmond
AS Brett Deledio said this week: "We don't recruit duds."
So much has changed at Richmond in recent years, with the club's latest top-10 pick sure to continue the turnaround of a recruiting department once laden with horror stories.
Reece Conca, the club's No.6 pick, is a bona fide midfield star in the making.
The smooth-moving midfielder is on track for Round 1 after impressing with his laser-like left foot and composure in traffic.
"He moves very well, he controls the ball very well and he's just a really good, solid player,"' coach Damien Hardwick said this week. "He's really going to complement our midfield."
Deledio was also effusive.
"On the track he knows where to find it," Deledio said. "He's pretty composed and tough."
Is he ready for Round 1?
"Definitely," Deledio said. "I don't want to put the mocker on him, but he has shown he can find the footy and deliver it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-idol-the-afls-young-guns/story-e6frf9jf-1226000818161
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IMO,"Mocka" means turd,as in "Mocking Bird"
LMAO@ Not wanting to put a turd on Conca
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the mocka is slang for the moss
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(now update the banner with Wayne's beautiful new artwork ;) ;D)
Main Page update is a WIP but(fingers crossed) should be finished mid Feb - when I am on a couple of weeks holiday
So it's a race between the main page update and a front of jumper sponsor :lol
I'd back the front of the jumper sponsor if I was you :rollin
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REECE CONCA - Richmond
The smooth-moving midfielder is on track for Round 1 after impressing with his laser-like left foot and composure in traffic.
I've watched Conca's highlights again, he seems to use his right foot a lot more than his left??
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Conca on his first game in Tiger colours:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/333232/default.aspx
* A little different and a lot quicker to junior footy. Exciting playing in front of 50k. Was a bit overwhelming but fun. Rest of preseason games will help settle him into senior footy before round 1.
* Didn't find the ball as much as he would've like but thought he did okay for his first game.
* Just focussing on preseason. Closer to round 1 will look at it personally and as a team.
* With such a young side and most likely most of them not playing round 1, Dimma said to just forget about the scoreboard, stick to the gameplan and enjoy ourselves. Early on had energy and came out all guns blazing but tailed off.
* Done a lot of work on our tackling and defensive side of the game. Held our own regarding our tackling against two quality sides.
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Conca keen for more
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 15 Feb, 2011
Richmond’s first pick in the 2010 National Draft, Reece Conca, has taken plenty out of his debut for the Club, in last Saturday’s NAB Cup opening round, against Carlton and Collingwood at Etihad Stadium.
Although the Tigers bowed out of the competition, with two losses, Conca, like his senior coach Damien Hardwick, was unperturbed, and looking forward to the start of the season proper.
“It was a bit different, a lot quicker than junior footy, but a great experience,” he said.
“The whole build-up to the game, and getting out there, in front of 40,000 people, was a bit overwhelming, but it was good fun, and I think the experience will help me, come Round 1. But I’m sure Round 1 will just kick up to another gear again.
“I probably didn’t find the ball as much as I would have liked, but being the first game, I thought I did okay. There’s certainly room for improvement, though.”
Hardwick gave some salient advice to his young charges pre-game, telling them to ignore the scoreboard . . .
“Our aim going in was to enjoy ourselves, stick to the game plan, and just focus on that,” Conca said.
“We came up against two quality sides, who had stronger line-ups than what we did.
“We had a lot of energy early with such a young squad and we came out all guns blazing (against Carlton), but we tailed off towards the end of that second half . . .
“I think we played really well in that first half and, come Round 1, I think we’ll do quite well.
“We’ve done a lot of work on our tackling and defensive pressure, and our young guys showed a lot of energy and a lot of aggression.
“So, we’re happy with that . . . Collingwood were playing a fair few of their premiership side and I thought we held our own for a while against such a quality team.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/107839/default.aspx
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This kid is a media pro already
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Conca set to debut
richmondfc.com.au
By Mark Macgugan
Wed 23 Mar, 2011
RICHMOND draftee Reece Conca will make his AFL debut against Carlton on Thursday night.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick confirmed on Wednesday that Conca, recruits Bachar Houli and Shaun Grigg, and possibly two more first-year players would play their first games for the yellow and black in the season opener.
"We've still got to finalise selection, but it's a really positive step for our footy club that we've brought in three players that will definitely play, and possibly up to five," Hardwick said.
Hardwick said Conca, a midfielder drafted from WAFL club Perth at No.6 in the 2010 NAB AFL Draft, had done everything right since arriving at Punt Road.
"He's a very driven individual, Reece," Hardwick said.
"He's a great kid and he's a very, very good football player and one that we think will play a lot of football for us.
"He's got elite speed, elite agility, beautiful kick of the footy, and more importantly he's really competitive. So he's a guy we look forward to an enormous future with."
The Richmond coach said the experience of Houli, who crossed from Essendon in the off-season, and Grigg, who moved from Carlton, would provide an important boost.
"With our young list we needed to bring in some players that can help take the burden off some of our younger midfielders, so they'll make a great addition to our midfield this year," Hardwick said.
With up to three untried players set to run onto the MCG on Thursday night, Hardwick stressed that while winning was important, the club was still taking a long-term view.
"Every side's looking to win every game, and we're no different," he said.
"(But) my job as the coach of Richmond, where we are at the moment, is to get as many games into the core group of players that I think can take us forward.
"So if that's putting five guys into the thrust of a round-one encounter that's going to have 80,000 people there, then that's what we'll do.
"It's about a long-term focus for our footy club. If those kids can play and they've got the ability to play, they'll play."
Hardwick would not be drawn on which other players were in line for debuts ahead of final team selection on Wednesday night.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/109800/default.aspx
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Video of Reece talking about his debut...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/341619/default.aspx
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Haven't watched above link, will when get chance! Must say though was super impressed with this 1st gamer :clapping
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I like how the coaches and Dimma in particular really set Conca a role on the night - stop Garlett and provide run off half back. Must take away the guess work for a first gamer. Besides a few shanks I was impressed by his endevour and fight. Another great recruit for the club!
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"In ten years time when we're all still at Richmond" :thumbsup
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Quality debut. Moves beautifully across the ground and early mistake aside has very clean skills.
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conca can really play.
Alot of people reckon FJ reached for Conca at 6, but he will prove to be a very astute selection
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It will be interesting to monitor the recruits from Coca back to old mate at pick one to see how much tey impact in round one and over the year in comparison to Conca. I believe we have picked a gem here.. :thumbsup
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Had a man crush on heppel predraft as
I thought he sounded like he'd slot in well. To see him in a essendon jumper is sickening. I wish him no luck in life.
Conca looks a jet. Stoked how he looked vs Carlton.
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Quality debut. Moves beautifully across the ground and early mistake aside has very clean skills.
Totally agree
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I'm still pinching myself this kid was still available at 6...dunno how we keep getting away with it :cheers
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I'm still pinching myself this kid was still available at 6...dunno how we keep getting away with it :cheers
lol ;D ;D ;D :cheers :cheers :cheers
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Had a man crush on heppel predraft as
I thought he sounded like he'd slot in well. To see him in a essendon jumper is sickening. I wish him no luck in life.
Conca looks a jet. Stoked how he looked vs Carlton.
That is an awful thing to say about Heppell. :banghead
Doesn't matter if he is lining up for whoever. I wish him well in his life and at his footy club.... and I hope Conca plays better and better each week and becomes part of multiple Richmond Premierships in the future.
I get the feeling as well that we may have picked a real star in him. :gotigers
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Had a man crush on heppel predraft as
I thought he sounded like he'd slot in well. To see him in a essendon jumper is sickening. I wish him no luck in life.
Conca looks a jet. Stoked how he looked vs Carlton.
That is an awful thing to say about Heppell. :banghead
Doesn't matter if he is lining up for whoever. I wish him well in his life and at his footy club.... and I hope Conca plays better and better each week and becomes part of multiple Richmond Premierships in the future.
Agree Tucker. Not one of your best posts Bents. Love to have the guy at Richmond but reality says you can't have all the best players. Good luck to him.
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I'm still pinching myself this kid was still available at 6...dunno how we keep getting away with it :cheers
wce might look stilly if gaff struggles ad the local lad conca keeps going good
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
Heppell will be a star, but wouldnt worry about Conca, limited pre season so will get plenty better as the season progresses. At times shows some fine glimpses, hits the ball hard and flies through packs in full flight which is a good sign. Doing it tough now, but character building :P
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He'll be alright, he's a midfielder only playing back to learn some defensive skills and because he's not fit enough to play midfield yet.
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
Heppell will be a star, but wouldnt worry about Conca, limited pre season so will get plenty better as the season progresses. At times shows some fine glimpses, hits the ball hard and flies through packs in full flight which is a good sign. Doing it tough now, but character building :P
Like i said my opinion and to be honest i hope im wrong but i dont see anything to suggest he is in the calibre of Heppell which is exactly who we should've selected when polec was taken by the Lions.
It was a massive risk and i hope they got it right
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
Heppell will be a star, but wouldnt worry about Conca, limited pre season so will get plenty better as the season progresses. At times shows some fine glimpses, hits the ball hard and flies through packs in full flight which is a good sign. Doing it tough now, but character building :P
Like i said my opinion and to be honest i hope im wrong but i dont see anything to suggest he is in the calibre of Heppell which is exactly who we should've selected when polec was taken by the Lions.
It was a massive risk and i hope they got it right
You wont get any arguments from me mate, i have publicly said before draft time that heppell and darling impressed me most and was dissapointed we didnt take one of those 2 with our first pick. But Conca goes alright and may not be too far behind them - will definitely be a good footballer - not worried about making a dud choice.
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conc has shown some genuine glimpses of star potential, he has been given some BIG jobs folks...it will get easier...maybe give him a breather in ressies or back him to take a step up once we start playing the middleweight sides
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Its a tough one.
Sean Atley looked like an absolute jet, but hasn't impressed at all for North yet.
Ben Cunnington aswell was pick 5 last year and has not set alight yet.
Pick 6 vs Pick 8 stuff is endless, as long as your pick fits in your best 22 thats what you aim for. If you miss out on a superstar well thats just bad luck.
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
Heppell will be a star, but wouldnt worry about Conca, limited pre season so will get plenty better as the season progresses. At times shows some fine glimpses, hits the ball hard and flies through packs in full flight which is a good sign. Doing it tough now, but character building :P
Like i said my opinion and to be honest i hope im wrong but i dont see anything to suggest he is in the calibre of Heppell which is exactly who we should've selected when polec was taken by the Lions.
It was a massive risk and i hope they got it right
LoL Heppell, fast becoming the most over rated 3 game youngster to ever play the game.
Have you even watched Heppell play?? At all??
I've watched him very closely and let me tell you we aint missing out on anything here, the kid is being used as a loose man in the backline with no direct opponent to closely check.
Any kid can gather possessions playing that role, and mind you when he does gather his possessions a lot of them are dinky roundabout handballs or long bombs to a contest.
Conca, has shown x1000 more composure, skill, defensive effort and and class then Heppell has.
I'm 200% positive that when we have the option of being able to play our best defenders that Conca will be played in the Midfield/Wing role.
PS: Heppell is a poor mans Batchelor.
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Alot of us including myself backed in the Greg Miller/ Terry Wallace bulldust for 5 years. We find out that they took players from rumour and speculation without actually looking at them play ie JON.
We now have what looks like a proffessional off-field team led by Benny Gale. We have full time recruiters and staff. We have a committed coach with a blue print for success. No shortcuts.
I'm willing to give this new lot a fair go.
In Hardwick we trust. :gotigers
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I havn't seen Conca do anything special yet either to be honest, he has a looong way to go. Just taking my tiger goggles off.
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My opinion and its only my opinion before some start abusing me is that i dont believe he was worthy of a top 6.
We had options, sure and secure options yet we went for a bloke who was never in anyones top 20 calculations. Big risk if you ask me and last time i checked we are not in a position to take risks.
We were most definately in a position to take a bloke like Heppell a perfect size for a midfielder/KPP yet we chose a guy who is barely 6 foot and dare i say yet another half bank flanker type
Heppell will be a star, but wouldnt worry about Conca, limited pre season so will get plenty better as the season progresses. At times shows some fine glimpses, hits the ball hard and flies through packs in full flight which is a good sign. Doing it tough now, but character building :P
Like i said my opinion and to be honest i hope im wrong but i dont see anything to suggest he is in the calibre of Heppell which is exactly who we should've selected when polec was taken by the Lions.
It was a massive risk and i hope they got it right
LoL Heppell, fast becoming the most over rated 3 game youngster to ever play the game.
Have you even watched Heppell play?? At all??
I've watched him very closely and let me tell you we aint missing out on anything here, the kid is being used as a loose man in the backline with no direct opponent to closely check.
Any kid can gather possessions playing that role, and mind you when he does gather his possessions a lot of them are dinky roundabout handballs or long bombs to a contest.
Conca, has shown x1000 more composure, skill, defensive effort and and class then Heppell has.
I'm 200% positive that when we have the option of being able to play our best defenders that Conca will be played in the Midfield/Wing role.
PS: Heppell is a poor mans Batchelor.
dont be a goose, anybody with half a brain can see the kid oozes class. His decision making and composure is insane for one so young. He was directing traffic yesterday nuff said. You really need to take those goggles off mate, ridiculous post
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Hardwick ... stop playing Conca in the backline and put him in the midfield!
get Conca on the wing!
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You dont think he needs to hone his defensive skills then Torch?
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This season was seen as another development season. Leave the kid where he is and when he learns enough move him to the half back line. His skill in kicking will be an asset from there and free up Deledio to sit permanently in the midfield. :thumbsup
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Had a man crush on heppel predraft as
I thought he sounded like he'd slot in well. To see him in a essendon jumper is sickening. I wish him no luck in life.
Conca looks a jet. Stoked how he looked vs Carlton.
Will win a Brownlow medal Heppel, been trained very well & excellent listener :thumbsup ;D
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You dont think he needs to hone his defensive skills then Torch?
Yes, in the midfield.
If that is the case, why doesn't Martin and Cotchin play in the backline to hone in their defensive skills?
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Personally I think we have a real find on our hands here.
Can't wait until this kid's matured a bit physically and gained more match experience because his skills are out of the box.
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You dont think he needs to hone his defensive skills then Torch?
Yes, in the midfield.
If that is the case, why doesn't Martin and Cotchin play in the backline to hone in their defensive skills?
Martin because he has the body and ability to win the hard ball, something we lack. Perhaps he should have spent a bit more time in defence early on though.
Cotchin...? dont really have an answer to that.
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Cant really understand where this thread has gone and why so many are having a go at Conca.
OMG 3 games of AFL and we are eating our own again. Gee we couldn't get enough of this kid after the Blues game and the Saints game...
This thread should be about supporting a kid thats played 3 games....sheesh...unreal. Bag the list cloggers for Gods sake, but give the kid more than 3 games.
White, Edwards, Morton, Connors, Graham, etc...etc.... should all have their threads brought back and they should cop more than the have before Conca cops anything.
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Personally I think we have a real find on our hands here.
Can't wait until this kid's matured a bit physically and gained more match experience because his skills are out of the box.
seriously man not being a smart arse im really not, but i just dont see it in him. Ive been to all games and pre season and i saw nothing that jumps at me from him. Maybe his a late developer who knows.
If we were talking about Helbig i would say yeah i can see where your coming from but in 3 games ive seen nothing except one mark running back with the flight. Kicking seems okay nothing special. He doesnt seem to have the smarts in 3 games, i would expect from a top 6 pick
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Personally I think we have a real find on our hands here.
Can't wait until this kid's matured a bit physically and gained more match experience because his skills are out of the box.
seriously man not being a smart behind im really not, but i just dont see it in him. Ive been to all games and pre season and i saw nothing that jumps at me from him. Maybe his a late developer who knows.
If we were talking about Helbig i would say yeah i can see where your coming from but in 3 games ive seen nothing except one mark running back with the flight. Kicking seems okay nothing special. He doesnt seem to have the smarts in 3 games, i would expect from a top 6 pick
doesn't have the smarts?? u must be joking. he's shown more smarts than any of our draftees
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seriously man not being a smart behind im really not, but i just dont see it in him. Ive been to all games and pre season and i saw nothing that jumps at me from him. Maybe his a late developer who knows.
Are you serious??
Seems you are. Oh well we'll see in time..
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Personally I think we have a real find on our hands here.
Can't wait until this kid's matured a bit physically and gained more match experience because his skills are out of the box.
seriously man not being a smart behind im really not, but i just dont see it in him. Ive been to all games and pre season and i saw nothing that jumps at me from him. Maybe his a late developer who knows.
If we were talking about Helbig i would say yeah i can see where your coming from but in 3 games ive seen nothing except one mark running back with the flight. Kicking seems okay nothing special. He doesnt seem to have the smarts in 3 games, i would expect from a top 6 pick
lol......this is one post I know will come back to bite you on the arse ;D ;D
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Personally I think we have a real find on our hands here.
Can't wait until this kid's matured a bit physically and gained more match experience because his skills are out of the box.
seriously man not being a smart behind im really not, but i just dont see it in him. Ive been to all games and pre season and i saw nothing that jumps at me from him. Maybe his a late developer who knows.
If we were talking about Helbig i would say yeah i can see where your coming from but in 3 games ive seen nothing except one mark running back with the flight. Kicking seems okay nothing special. He doesnt seem to have the smarts in 3 games, i would expect from a top 6 pick
lol......this is one post I know will come back to bite you on the behind ;D ;D
its an opinion and i hope im wrong, more likely i am wrong that right.
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Conca's been given a couple of hard lessons and been beaten soundly there is no denying, but the thing I have been pleased with is his ability to think his way out of a tight situation and not panic when under pressure. The step up to ALF level is huge and he's been played on some very smart footballers. Experience will teach him how to play on a player like Milne.
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Conca's been given a couple of hard lessons and been beaten soundly there is no denying, but the thing I have been pleased with is his ability to think his way out of a tight situation and not panic when under pressure. The step up to ALF level is huge and he's been played on some very smart footballers. Experience will teach him how to play on a player like Milne.
im a believer in you should play in a position which your best suited at. I dont see Heppell or Gary Rohan playing off a HFF or BP
I didnt see Jarrod Blair start off in a back pocket against Milne.
Conca is a midfielder is he not well thats where he should be placed. Im sick to death of players being played in different positions.
He can learn to tackle being in the midfielder i.e Martin last year. Tell me why wasnt Martin placed in a Back Pocket last year to hone his defensive skills?
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Martin's defensive skills arent great. Maybe Hardwick has realized that he should have spent some time down back.
It may not have seemed like it on the weekend, but we dont need Conca in the middle right now as much as we needed Dusty in their last year. Or Cotch for that matter.
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Rohan has had a year in the system and is a half forward flanker. He also played games down back last year. ???
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Rohan has had a year in the system and is a half forward flanker. He also played games down back last year. ???
Was going to say the same thing.
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Rohan has had a year in the system and is a half forward flanker. He also played games down back last year. ???
Was going to say the same thing.
yeah im sure you were.
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I agree that Conca hasn't shown much yet but he has only played three games and been given big defensive responsibilities very early. I keep going back to highlights package I saw of the kid and the talk of his tremendous leadership skills. I think, much like most early draft picks, his natural game is based on skill and attack not on defense. In fact if young players are too defensive then they do not stand out and are not picked up so young players are rarely rewarded for this aspect of their game.
I think Conca would shine more if he was placed on the wing or as a rotating midfielder but Dimma is looking long term for his development not immediate. He is fufilling an important role for the team also something you would rarely give to a new recruit.
I think the backline will not be in his long term future. He was recuited as a midfielder not a backman like Batchelor. What he is gaining is a wonderful education extremely early which recruits rarely if ever have the luxury of gaining. His stint in the backline forces him to mold his defensive side of his game where, if he was moved directly into the midfield, he may have gone into automatic pilot and played his normal attacking game regardless of the coaches directions.
Big ask of a young fellow but probably a big reason he doesn't seem to have 'shined' to date.
Just my opinion of course.... ;D
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big ask to ask tigers supporters to look long term stripes
after 30 years most can't look past the next beer
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big ask to ask tigers supporters to look long term stripes
after 30 years most can't look past the next beer
Whose shout? Yours you bastard
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I agree that Conca hasn't shown much yet but he has only played three games and been given big defensive responsibilities very early. I keep going back to highlights package I saw of the kid and the talk of his tremendous leadership skills. I think, much like most early draft picks, his natural game is based on skill and attack not on defense. In fact if young players are too defensive then they do not stand out and are not picked up so young players are rarely rewarded for this aspect of their game.
I think Conca would shine more if he was placed on the wing or as a rotating midfielder but Dimma is looking long term for his development not immediate. He is fufilling an important role for the team also something you would rarely give to a new recruit.
I think the backline will not be in his long term future. He was recuited as a midfielder not a backman like Batchelor. What he is gaining is a wonderful education extremely early which recruits rarely if ever have the luxury of gaining. His stint in the backline forces him to mold his defensive side of his game where, if he was moved directly into the midfield, he may have gone into automatic pilot and played his normal attacking game regardless of the coaches directions.
Big ask of a young fellow but probably a big reason he doesn't seem to have 'shined' to date.
Just my opinion of course.... ;D
Good post Stripes.
Personally I see a heap of ability there.
Admittedly I have been focusing on his positives but I really see a raw kid with extremely slick moves and genuine dual sided ability who's finding his way at the elite level in a young team by facing a baptism of fire.
As has been said countless times juniors don't always burst onto the scene like a Chris Judd or Dustin Martin. They are the exception, not the rule.
BUT so confident am I of Reece's success, I am willing to bet that he will be considered a bonafide gun by 2014.
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Whose shout? Yours you bastard
your shout wogballs, you dogged yours when you didn't turn up round 1
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Whose shout? Yours you bastard
your shout wogballs, you dogged yours when you didn't turn up round 1
Listen up vanilla face, as I explained at the time, i was skeet shooting... >:(
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;D
skeet skeet skat cat
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Now just before the end of the Pies game and he has 22 possessions. Have they been valuable possessions, how has he played??
Do a few people on this thread have to pre-heat the oven to cook their humble pie or has his possessions been easy ones.
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Hes been very serviceable
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Hes been very serviceable
Now for you to say that actually means he was outstanding...hahaha
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showing good signs same with Batchelor and afew other youngsters.
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both conca and batchelor showed terrific signs tonight...conca is growing in confidence, sheesh once he adds some muscle to that frame look out, and batch is a real carbon copy of joel bowden, he should go for his marks more though he has good hands, plenty of time with the pill and a deadly kick
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both conca and batchelor showed terrific signs tonight...conca is growing in confidence, sheesh once he adds some muscle to that frame look out, and batch is a real carbon copy of joel bowden, he should go for his marks more though he has good hands, plenty of time with the pill and a deadly kick
doesnt even need it tbh, hes got a solid core, hits the man hard at the contest.
What did you think of him tonight Dan? Very smart cookie the way he holds the ball and releases at the right time taking the hit.
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He could have got a couple more free kick's tonight to, put his head over the ball and got in the thick of it, for a 4th gamer I loved his gae tonight!
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both conca and batchelor showed terrific signs tonight...conca is growing in confidence, sheesh once he adds some muscle to that frame look out, and batch is a real carbon copy of joel bowden, he should go for his marks more though he has good hands, plenty of time with the pill and a deadly kick
doesnt even need it tbh, hes got a solid core, hits the man hard at the contest.
What did you think of him tonight Dan? Very smart cookie the way he holds the ball and releases at the right time taking the hit.
Leave daniel alone, he is busy in the kitchen baking his pie..haha
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I thought Conca showed plenty tonight when he was played in the mid-field
The lad has footy smarts
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
Get stuffed you twit
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
As long as he plays in our best 22 thats all that matters.
You can't expect to pick the best kid in the draft every year.
The bloke picked up 20 possessions against Collingwood. Poor call for mine bt.
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
bad call big tone.
Reece Conca in his first 4 games has had 57 disposals.
Garry Abblet jr had only 40 disposals after 4 games.
Luke Hodge had only 31 disposals after 4 games.
Dane Swan..........43 touches after 4 games.Pendlebury 47.
And then theres the mighty Chris Judd with 63.
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The comparison doesnt make sense to me. Banik was a big kid who was slow. Conca doesnt look slow. Banik was never able to go into the midfield which is where Conca will end up. Its a wrong comparison IMHO.
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For a kid who has played 4 games, out of his normal position ( read out of his comfort zone) he has shown glimpses that he he is a natural footballer. A deft little side step last night and ability to run the angles and create space for himself show to me that if he makes the grade he will be a long term, very good footballer.
I scratch my head wondering what some people look for in kids.
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Conca played well last night. Impressed by what I saw. I always liked Banik but remember he got sick was out of the game for an extended period and he never recovered afterwards
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
Lol you efftard. :lol
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both conca and batchelor showed terrific signs tonight...conca is growing in confidence, sheesh once he adds some muscle to that frame look out, and batch is a real carbon copy of joel bowden, he should go for his marks more though he has good hands, plenty of time with the pill and a deadly kick
doesnt even need it tbh, hes got a solid core, hits the man hard at the contest.
What did you think of him tonight Dan? Very smart cookie the way he holds the ball and releases at the right time taking the hit.
I think Batch and Astbury are our future in the back half. Got a lot of time for them both
Conca was good last night, especially playing against the Pies, but i still have my doubts.
30 years in the wilderness you haver doubts about everything the club does.
Like i said he did well but i dont know if he will be a permanent fixture in the midfielder. He seems too short. Whats his height?
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both conca and batchelor showed terrific signs tonight...conca is growing in confidence, sheesh once he adds some muscle to that frame look out, and batch is a real carbon copy of joel bowden, he should go for his marks more though he has good hands, plenty of time with the pill and a deadly kick
doesnt even need it tbh, hes got a solid core, hits the man hard at the contest.
What did you think of him tonight Dan? Very smart cookie the way he holds the ball and releases at the right time taking the hit.
I think Batch and Astbury are our future in the back half. Got a lot of time for them both
Conca was good last night, especially playing against the Pies, but i still have my doubts.
30 years in the wilderness you haver doubts about everything the club does.
Like i said he did well but i dont know if he will be a permanent fixture in the midfielder. He seems too short. Whats his height?
185cm, same as Cotchin (and Helbig who you seem to like) and 3cm taller than Gary Ablett Junior
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Reece Conca= Anthony Banik
Will be a perminate half forward or half back
Will be serviceable at best.
Personally think we got that pick wrong. Time will tell and like Daniel, i would be really happy to be wrong.
a comparrison straight from the clacker, parallels are zip, banik arrived as a mature bodied kid who dominated junior ranks, conc shows he has midfield smarts, the comment earlier that he has a knack of drawing an opponent, releasing the pill and taking a hit is a terrific early sign ...4 games and he averages ~15 possies...errr not a bad start
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Kid has better decision making and skills than players who are more established in our 22. KId will be a very good player in the midfield because of this when he gets there. Not some of your best work there Big Tone. :help
Real impressed with this kid after four games.
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Paul Kelly a better comparison than the floggish Banik call
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My comparison of Conca to Banik was not about body size or shape, it was more about position, and i actually thought Banik was a serviceable player for us. My comparison was more they are both early picks but IMO are only flankers or pockets. And as i have said IMO cannot see Conca playing in our midfield from what i have seen so far.
The kid has played ok but what i think our side needs more than a perminate flanker is another GENUINE midfielder or KPP.
Also it was only a post, and an opinion, discuss your opinion but calling me names on a computer is pretty weak. Well done tough guys!
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My comparison of Conca to Banik was not about body size or shape, it was more about position, and i actually thought Banik was a serviceable player for us. My comparison was more they are both early picks but IMO are only flankers or pockets. And as i have said IMO cannot see Conca playing in our midfield from what i have seen so far.
The kid has played ok but what i think our side needs more than a perminate flanker is another GENUINE midfielder or KKP.
Also it was only a post, and an opinion, discuss your opinion but calling me names on a computer is pretty weak. Well done tough guys!
i realise it was an opinion and I called it way off beam...there are zilch parallels between him and banik, reload and try again
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My comparison of Conca to Banik was not about body size or shape, it was more about position, and i actually thought Banik was a serviceable player for us. My comparison was more they are both early picks but IMO are only flankers or pockets. And as i have said IMO cannot see Conca playing in our midfield from what i have seen so far.
The kid has played ok but what i think our side needs more than a perminate flanker is another GENUINE midfielder or KKP.
Also it was only a post, and an opinion, discuss your opinion but calling me names on a computer is pretty weak. Well done tough guys!
i realise it was an opinion and I called it way off beam...there are zilch parallels between him and banik, reload and try again
exactly - shocking call
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Whats a KKP player?
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calling me names on a computer is pretty weak.
ok........P00F ! ;D
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big tone takes the biggest w@nker award for the week
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calling me names on a computer is pretty weak.
ok........P00F ! ;D
Lmao!
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calling me names on a computer is pretty weak.
ok........P00F ! ;D
been called worse than that on here
anyway apparantly its cool to be a sissy these days, ask jack :santa :birthday :rollin
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My comparison of Conca to Banik was not about body size or shape, it was more about position, and i actually thought Banik was a serviceable player for us. My comparison was more they are both early picks but IMO are only flankers or pockets. And as i have said IMO cannot see Conca playing in our midfield from what i have seen so far.
The kid has played ok but what i think our side needs more than a perminate flanker is another GENUINE midfielder or KKP.
Also it was only a post, and an opinion, discuss your opinion but calling me names on a computer is pretty weak. Well done tough guys!
Apparently you can have an opinion BT as long as everyone agrees with you. Those posters who post personal attacks are usually the "pusillanimous pipsqueaks" that wouldn't help an old lady if she was being harassed right in front of them and they would never dare say it straight to your face Big Tone.
It's so so easy to personally insult when your sitting behind a computer playing with yourself. The fact is those posters are weak as pee!!!
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Good game. Will take some confidence from that.
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From what I have seen of the lad I think he will be a regular part of the midfield before midyear and secure a permanent place in the centre rotations beyond this. Wing this year.
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Good game. Will take some confidence from that.
Agree MM, really liked his game on Friday - his improvement in each of his 4 games has me really happy with the pick so far.
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big tone...did you used to say the same about a half fwd flanker for geelong whose name might just have been gary ablett?
seriously, after 4 games you can make that call...that conca wont play midfield...you should apply for a recruiters job at one of the afl clubs.
I dont know whether he will play mid or not...but i sure as hell cant say he cant after 4 games...
Conca is learning all the time...I quite liked the fact he was left on Milne for most of the Saints game...he got a bath from Milne but he would have learnt heaps.
He has exceptional footy smarts and decision making...for that reason alone I think the club will play him off the half back flank for a while...he just picks out the right options when going fwd.
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I thought Conca was sensational on the Wing on Friday night. That is where he should be playing. Great decision maker, uses the football well and doesn't take a step back in a contest.
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How many times has the kid been hit in the head in his first four games?
His poor mother.
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calling me names on a computer is pretty weak.
ok........P00F ! ;D
been called worse than that on here
anyway apparantly its cool to be a sissy these days, ask jack :santa :birthday :rollin
what a disgraceful sad individual you are X.
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I thought Conca was sensational on the Wing on Friday night. That is where he should be playing. Great decision maker, uses the football well and doesn't take a step back in a contest.
I agree torch. I understood the footy educational benefit but it was a tough intro to AFL footy playing as our main small defender. Daly said today Conca will now remain in the midfield which is good news. That's where he played last year as a junior.
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This kid is really going to be something. Love his poise, really has the smarts too.
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Can play. Great pick Francis and co.
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Can play. Great pick Francis and co.
Yeah I hadn't seen much of him until today, looks great.
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He's a keeper all right. There may be a better player in last years draft but I think we picked well. Doubt there is a better player after 6, maybe some equals. Heppel may be a star for Essendon but I don't think Conc's will disgrace us or himself.
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Good bump of a thread WAT. Very happy with how Conca is developing and travelling. Has walked into the side and now that he is playing through the midfield in his more natural position he is showing why he was a first round pick.
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Seems like a natural midfielder. Good addition to the team. And showed some courage in the last quarter as well in defence which was excellent. Good stuff from the kid.
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Good bump of a thread WAT. Very happy with how Conca is developing and travelling. Has walked into the side and now that he is playing through the midfield in his more natural position he is showing why he was a first round pick.
He just looks so composed doesn't he MT, makes very good choices, neat skills too. Can't wait to see him in the mid with the rest of them. :cheers
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Makes good decisions. Whatever we see this year, he will improve on.
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Justifying his pick 6 selection with every passing week is Reece. You feel confident when the ball is in his hands as he uses it well and he's gotten over 20 possies consistently over the past 3 weeks since moving into the midfield/wing. Reece deserves a rising star nomination but this week will probably go to Jack Darling by the sound of it.
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Not reading nearly as many 'doubting Thomas' comments about him now. :thumbsup
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some just aren't as quick on the uptake , smokey ;)
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Reece deserves a rising star nomination but this week will probably go to Jack Darling by the sound of it.
Reece is showing poise above his 6 games experience and is becoming very reliable and creative. He's working his way into contests more and more and is becoming a player I am happy to see holding the ball.
For some reason though he doesn't get a lot of media attention. Perhaps it's because he's not particularly flashy. Maybe it's because he's slipped into the team so well he seems more like an old hand than a newbie. It's hard to think of a player that has looked so comfortable in the team after so few games. Is this why he wasn't on many radars at draft time?
Personally I'm really happy with him as our number 6 draft pick. I think it is obvious he will become a valuable, solid member of our future. He also has that little bit of class that will ensure he will sit as a very good player in the AFL not simply a bottom half player in the team. He has a hard edge too, gets crunched at least once a game.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get a rising star nomination at all. A player like Reece will need a 30+ possession game to be noticed.
Definitely think Reece was the sure bet of the draft. I have no doubt he's going to make it as a player.
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For some reason though he doesn't get a lot of media attention. Perhaps it's because he's not particularly flashy. Maybe it's because he's slipped into the team so well he seems more like an old hand than a newbie. It's hard to think of a player that has looked so comfortable in the team after so few games. Is this why he wasn't on many radars at draft time?
Personally I'm really happy with him as our number 6 draft pick. I think it is obvious he will become a valuable, solid member of our future. He also has that little bit of class that will ensure he will sit as a very good player in the AFL not simply a bottom half player in the team. He has a hard edge too, gets crunched at least once a game.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get a rising star nomination at all. A player like Reece will need a 30+ possession game to be noticed.
Definitely think Reece was the sure bet of the draft. I have no doubt he's going to make it as a player.
:yep and :yep.
good calls that.
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conca has been the best of all first yr players this yr across the board
he does not get noticed because he has so much time and poise and that is the mark of a good player
he has been super impressive and has a mature head on his shoulders
im am happy we have him and dgaf that he does not get noticed, but he will from now on as Gerard Healy is starting to get on the conca train
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Reece deserves a rising star nomination but this week will probably go to Jack Darling by the sound of it.
Reece is showing poise above his 6 games experience and is becoming very reliable and creative. He's working his way into contests more and more and is becoming a player I am happy to see holding the ball.
For some reason though he doesn't get a lot of media attention. Perhaps it's because he's not particularly flashy. Maybe it's because he's slipped into the team so well he seems more like an old hand than a newbie. It's hard to think of a player that has looked so comfortable in the team after so few games. Is this why he wasn't on many radars at draft time?
Personally I'm really happy with him as our number 6 draft pick. I think it is obvious he will become a valuable, solid member of our future. He also has that little bit of class that will ensure he will sit as a very good player in the AFL not simply a bottom half player in the team. He has a hard edge too, gets crunched at least once a game.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get a rising star nomination at all. A player like Reece will need a 30+ possession game to be noticed.
Definitely think Reece was the sure bet of the draft. I have no doubt he's going to make it as a player.
Spot on O, good post.
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Reece the Concarer will be great mate.
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Conca played only 69% match time
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Conca played only 69% match time
Would be part of his 1st year development wouldn't it?
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yep didn't start full pre-season training until january either
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No need to run a kid into the ground in his first year, or even his 2nd year either
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Conca played only 69% match time
Would be part of his 1st year development wouldn't it?
20+ touches in less than 70% game time
well in.
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This kid has a VERY bright future. :)
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Darling won the rising star nomination this round so hopefully we can get a win against Freo and Reece gets deservedly nominated next week.
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cub that's a good nickname for reece "conan the conca(rer)" :lol :lol :lol
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Reece deserves one.
The Suns, with all their kids, are going to be lucky to get many more nominations. Swallow will get one somewhere along the line.
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Bombers took heppell with pick 8.
Dont the the Josh Caddy at pick 7 has done anything - is he injured?
Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Caddy or Heppell?
(Btw I am very happy with Reece Conca - adds class poise and first rate decision making).
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
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Bentleigh - I would rate that at the moment - Heppell Conca Gaff Polec with Caddy N/A
Conca hasnt had the immediate impact of Heppell but geez he looks good.
Conca's last 3 games have all been over 20 possessions - he is fitting into his role quite nicely and with time will work his way into the midfield.
I think his current average stats are higher than Lids' in his first season (I am not comparing him to Martin who is an absolute freak of a footballer).
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Teenage Tiger Conca earns his stripes
The West Australian
May 5, 2011
Late last year, Reece Conca could barely feel the grass between his toes. In the past two months, the Richmond recruit's feet have hardly touched the ground.
Conca's decision to miss last year's draft camp so he could undergo surgery to deal with complications from a broken left fibula, has paid off in the first six games of the Tigers' improving season.
That will continue at the MCG on Saturday when the 18-year-old plays against Fremantle, the club he once saw as most likely to offer him his AFL chance.
But Richmond saw things differently and by the time the Dockers had their first pick in the draft at No.20 - used to recruit Jayden Pitt - Conca was long gone, taken with the Tigers' second selection and No.6 overall in a decision that was leaked on the internet.
It didn't take long after his arrival at the famous Melbourne club to erase any doubts that his injury would affect his football.
He soon claimed his place in Richmond's team and his 101 possessions to date this season suggest he is there to stay.
After his surgery Conca was in plaster for six weeks and then a moon boot for eight.
"That part of it goes really slow," he said.
"It was tough, but looking back now it's been all right.
"When I first got out of the boot, my foot hadn't actually touched the ground for a while and it was really strange.
"You were sort of sensing the ground and balancing on one leg.
"Touching the ground and even getting into the shower for the first time was quite different ... it's like a weird sensation where your foot's really rough and your skin is a bit dead."
Conca, who lives with Richmond's Claremont recruit Tom Derickx, said part of his surgery also concentrated on shaving a piece of extra bone from his heel because of a condition known as os trigonum which can affect movement of the joint.
He said the syndrome was still evident on his right heel.
It limited the full range of his kicking motion, but was not a problem for him when executing the crucial skill.
Having converted to football from soccer to follow join his childhood friends in sport, Conca's earliest inspiration was 1995 Brownlow medallist Paul Kelly, despite being only 10 years of age when the Sydney legend retired.
He fondly recalled being the only one of about 30 family and friends wearing red and white at a house in Harvey as they watched the Swans snatch the 2005 premiership from West Coast in a thrilling grand final.
By draft day he had been assured by Richmond he was going to be a Tiger. But after an earlier daunting pre-draft interview with Fremantle officials, including coach Mark Harvey, he thought he was destined to be a Docker.
Despite suggestion that he could be bound for a Port Adelaide with their first pick at No.16, Conca had spoken with Perth teammate Tendai Mzungu about the probability of the pair continuing their football at Fremantle.
Conca has found a habit of being in the football headlines from the time he was at the centre of the Tigers' draft leak.
He said he also found it strange when Collingwood's Chris Dawes was cited for striking him in round four, in an incident which threatened to cost the Magpies forward a chance to play in the Anzac Day match against Essendon.
He was relieved when Dawes was cleared for the big match.
Conca, who is of Calabrian descent and has a twin sister, said it was difficult to imagine how the start to his football life could have been more satisfying.
And he said being handed the No.30 guernsey made famous by Richmond's 300-game great Francis Bourke added a special edge to the fairytale.
"The club gave me Francis Bourke's number ... I still haven't met him yet, but I hope I'll get to do that soon," he said.
"He's a pretty big deal within the club so it's pretty special. Hopefully someday I could get to somewhere near where he did and etch my own history alongside him.
"To win our first game and sing the song was probably one of the greatest moments of my life and the crowd after the game was probably the loudest thing I've ever heard.
"Being here is probably the best thing that could have happened to me."
Conca said Richmond's expectations for the season had risen with wins in their past two games and said the Fremantle battle would be his club's biggest test so far this season.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/9318815/teenage-tiger-conca-earns-his-stripes/
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The kids going to be something special, I can feel it. :gotigers
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its the italian blood
forza!
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Reece Zola Conca.
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Another Italian cant complain about that. :thumbsup
Hope his better than our last, Merenda
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merenda started to show great form but he had a chronic back injury which destroyed his career
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merenda started to show great form but he had a chronic back injury which destroyed his career
Merenda was another player who's possessions were about quantity rather than quality ;D
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choco at the disco!
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The kids going to be something special, I can feel it. :gotigers
Agree. He dances beautifully in traffic.
With experience could be anything.
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The kids going to be something special, I can feel it. :gotigers
Agree. He dances beautifully in traffic.
With experience could be anything.
Id prefer not to see our players doing the conga. All they need to do is just play footy ;D
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merenda started to show great form but he had a chronic back injury which destroyed his career
Merenda was another player who's possessions were about quantity rather than quality ;D
lol hahahaha nice u got me there
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It's a refreshing change to hear our players say coming to Richmond was the best thing that could have happened. I think they know they are at a club on the up-curve and there's an opportunity to work hard together and become successful. You can't knock someone of good Calabrian stock either :thumbsup (otherwise you may end up with a horse's head in your bed :lol ).
Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
I was a massive fan of Gaff in the U18s although I'm not disappointed we got Conca at pick 6. If we had massaged our wins in 2009/10 smartly we could have ended up with both :whistle :outtahere. No doubt the Eagles were tanking last year :whistle.
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just like Pakistan in the cricket? :outtahere
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Just watched the Westcoast game where Jack kicked 10. Watched Tambo running around in the number 30. I was struct by how much happier I was with our current number 30. Conca's going to be an upgrade.
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Surely Reece will be the Rising Star this week. Another 24 possies and in our bests.
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Surely Reece will be the Rising Star this week. Another 24 possies and in our bests.
Thought exactly the same thing.
Was sensational.
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I thought Reece was one positive out of today. Mostly because he was one working in the first quarter and finding the ball against the tide when most of his older teammates went missing. Fifth week in a row he's got over 20 possies too. He'll probably miss out again for the rising star nomination because we lost though.
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Found the ball more than anyone St Richmond outside
deledio. Martin. Cotchin. Grigg. Foley nahas. Houli. Jackson.
2nd out of afl players that can win the rising star this after heppell. Ahead of swallow in 3rd.
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Savage gets the rising star nom
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This round, give this kid an effing Rising Stat nomination for gods sake.
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any still have any doubts? He's getting better and better each week - going to be a gun
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Surely this week he gets his nomination. Gold Coast has the bye. :lol :rollin :lol
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One piece of play from the kid whose shorts look too big, will live long.
25.06 of the final term - Check it out.. :thumbsup
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One piece of play from the kid whose shorts look too big, will live long.
25.06 of the final term - Check it out.. :thumbsup
the kid puts his head over the ball. He's gonna be ok. :cheers
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Conca is going beautifully......is making a mockery of Tambling/Polo/Conners.Already a superior player to those three spuds after only 9 games.
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I know he's had a top debut year so far and we are coming off the bye but Reece looked a bit sluggish today. He got caught a fair few times and wasn't as clean with his hands as usual (I know the ball was slippery). It wouldn't be a surprise if the long season and playing every game is starting to have a tiring effect but hopefully it was just a bad day today and Reece will be up again and back on his game against Brisbane.
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I know he's had a top debut year so far and we are coming off the bye but Reece looked a bit sluggish today. He got caught a fair few times and wasn't as clean with his hands as usual (I know the ball was slippery). It wouldn't be a surprise if the long season and playing every game is starting to have a tiring effect but hopefully it was just a bad day today and Reece will be up again and back on his game against Brisbane.
Yeah agree been superb RC, looked sore after the PA game in Darwin, glad we got the bye for him to rest up. Shows what a long season can do to you. Would benefit from a 2 week break imo
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I know he's had a top debut year so far and we are coming off the bye but Reece looked a bit sluggish today. He got caught a fair few times and wasn't as clean with his hands as usual (I know the ball was slippery). It wouldn't be a surprise if the long season and playing every game is starting to have a tiring effect but hopefully it was just a bad day today and Reece will be up again and back on his game against Brisbane.
Reckon it had more to do with not being able to come up mentally after having a relaxing weekend before, rookies would struggle with being able to mentally switch on and off.
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has been dead quiet last two, needs to be dropped for his development and webbers come in
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Reckon he's attracted a bit more attention. Teams have worked out who is important to us and they are concentrating on them. I actually think Conca was a very important component of our team. Nahas, King, Conca, Cotch, Martin. They are all having a much harder time of it. All part of the learning process for our young team.
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We don't have the depth to drop Conca, unfortunately he had his rest when we had the bye. With Astbury out injured for the rest of the year and no one standing up for Coburg who do we replace Conca with????
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Webberly?
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Webberly?
:thumbsup
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Any news on Reece after being subbed off after copping a knock to his head? Is he okay?
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Season is starting to catch up with him, he needs a rest.
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Season is starting to catch up with him, he needs a rest.
Dis ict gooden :thumbsup
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Agree needs a rest. Same with Dyson Heppell, both looking very very tired.
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Was really down yesterday
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seasons caught up with him. Infact it caught up to him I reckon about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
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seasons caught up with him. Infact it caught up to him I reckon about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
Correct, really struggling
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WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP
he has copped many heavy hits the past few weeks in the head and again yesterday
has the season caught up with jack as he has had a few poor weeks playing sore
conca is made of tough stuff and he is not strugglig
u r all a bunch off golden straw drama queens
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First year player, needs a rest.
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na just as dimma said about jack, they just have to play through it
it builds character
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Conca went back on after the knock but those on the bench noticed he wasn't quite right with his reactions when he tackled a couple of times so they subbed him off.
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seasons caught up with him. Infact it caught up to him I reckon about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
Correct, really struggling
Kid has been struggling since the Port game in Darwin. Kid needs a rest and is starting to look fatigued.WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP
he has copped many heavy hits the past few weeks in the head and again yesterday
has the season caught up with jack as he has had a few poor weeks playing sore
conca is made of tough stuff and he is not strugglig
u r all a bunch off golden straw drama queens
Jacks issues are different to Reece and Reece is a first year player. Its not about being a drama queen but about managing your resources. :thumbsup
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the kid needs a rest...give him a week off, will do him the world of good, he's running up and down on one spot right now, needs to be freshened
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Has dipped abit from the peak of his Rising Star nom.
Sending over the chilli mussells now.
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Dusty was far more physically equipped for AFL last year than Conca and he was rested so I'm sure Conca will need one.
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I felt tired just watching Reece play last couple of weeks, definitely due for a rest.
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Reece Conca was intervewed on Fox Sports
Fair bit of questions re: Championships, but when asked about Richmond
- Happy with his first year, still developing
- Disappointing last week and just have to work harder now
- Year isn't over, must work hard and push for a 1 of the 2 spots up for grabs in the top 8.
Spoke well.
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Just moved your post on Reece here Pope so it doesn't get lost in the U18 Champs thread.
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Reece Conca was intervewed on Fox Sports
Fair bit of questions re: Championships, but when asked about Richmond
- Happy with his first year, still developing
- Disappointing last week and just have to work harder now
- Year isn't over, must work hard and push for a 1 of the 2 spots up for grabs in the top 8.
Spoke well.
He must be glad he was rested last week.
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Conca in the clear with the MRP...
Contact between Richmond's Reece Conca and the Geelong Cats' Matthew Stokes from the fourth quarter of Sunday's match was assessed. Conca and Stokes are both running towards a loose ball. Stokes takes possession just as Conca reaches the contest and makes contact with his opponent. It was the view of the panel that Conca had no realistic alternative way to contest the ball and no further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119408/default.aspx
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how smooth is this kid in traffic?
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Smooth mover. Always gets a handball out.
Felt sorry for the kid earlier in the year couldn't kick a goal no matter how close he was yesterday he launched from 50 and should've been given a goal based on what I saw.
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Conca in the clear with the MRP...
Contact between Richmond's Reece Conca and the Geelong Cats' Matthew Stokes from the fourth quarter of Sunday's match was assessed. Conca and Stokes are both running towards a loose ball. Stokes takes possession just as Conca reaches the contest and makes contact with his opponent. It was the view of the panel that Conca had no realistic alternative way to contest the ball and no further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119408/default.aspx
So he should be
A fantastic traditional "hip 'n' shouder"
Scotty Turner would be proud :thumbsup
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liked his game yesterday, a rare highlight...will benefit greatly from a second pre season
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one thing about him and its a bit inane, rfc have him listed at 185cm there is not a hope in hell that he is 185cm. height wise looking at him i would classify him a small. having stood next to him i know hes a small.
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Loved his hardness yesterday at a stage of the game when some of his more seasoned teamates were going through the motions.
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R.Conca... he'll be a gun this kid... in a few years time they'll be comparing him to R.Harvey.
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Nice to see the rest has refreshed him a little. Looks like any doubts that were had about him may have just been the result of fatigue. Long season for a young man. Don't think we will be having many Conca v Heppel threads in the future.
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10 year player :thumbsup
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10 year player :thumbsup
He is but I hope he learns to keep moving when he takes a mark, not look around instinctively.. Campbell must have taught that, the king of stagnant footy.
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one thing about him and its a bit inane, rfc have him listed at 185cm there is not a hope in hell that he is 185cm. height wise looking at him i would classify him a small. having stood next to him i know hes a small.
Aren't you about as tall as Sandilands though the claw?
I thought Concs was about 182-83, good size for an inside mid, slightly bigger than Marc Murphy
Definite upgrade on Foley
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10 year player :thumbsup
He is but I hope he learns to keep moving when he takes a mark, not look around instinctively.. Campbell must have taught that, the king of stagnant footy.
Totally agree TM. Have noticed for a while that he takes to long to move the ball on after a mark or free kick. Been good in his first year though.
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10 year player :thumbsup
He is but I hope he learns to keep moving when he takes a mark, not look around instinctively.. Campbell must have taught that, the king of stagnant footy.
Totally agree TM. Have noticed for a while that he takes to long to move the ball on after a mark or free kick. Been good in his first year though.
Been caught in possession a few times as well but I agree will learn and the good far far outweighs any negatives.
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Been caught in possession a few times as well but I agree will learn and the good far far outweighs any negatives.
Almost always because he has been far more committed to the ball than those around him. With experience, he will learn when and how to play those situations smarter but his attitude and desire is first class and he shows more talent in his big toe already than many others around him. Just another FJ stuff-up I guess. ::)
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Been caught in possession a few times as well but I agree will learn and the good far far outweighs any negatives.
Almost always because he has been far more committed to the ball than those around him. With experience, he will learn when and how to play those situations smarter but his attitude and desire is first class and he shows more talent in his big toe already than many others around him. Just another FJ stuff-up I guess. ::)
I was also thinking that too Smokey the way he goes about it and the situations he finds himself in, with experience and better cattle around him he'll be able to avoid the tackler.
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Been caught in possession a few times as well but I agree will learn and the good far far outweighs any negatives.
Almost always because he has been far more committed to the ball than those around him. With experience, he will learn when and how to play those situations smarter but his attitude and desire is first class and he shows more talent in his big toe already than many others around him. Just another FJ stuff-up I guess. ::)
Do you think that we should judge FJ on our 1st round draft picks?
Pick 6 - is that so difficult?
I'd love to see FJ pick up a gun pick in the later rounds even pick 19-20, like a Fyfe or Callum Ward :pray
Logic says the harvest of a great recruiter is in the lower rounds and even rookie selections. Freo have a great return on rookies in the past few years - I struggle to think of 1 good win in this draft.
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Do you think that we should judge FJ on our 1st round draft picks?
Yep, should be judged on every pick and I think his hit rate since going full time and being handed overall responsibility for drafting has been better than most. Cops an unfair whack from many on here does FJ.
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I'd love to see FJ pick up a gun pick in the later rounds even pick 19-20, like a Fyfe or Callum Ward :pray
Ben Griffiths and Jake Batchelor - watch this space.
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Almost always because he has been far more committed to the ball than those around him. With experience, he will learn when and how to play those situations smarter but his attitude and desire is first class
Good one Smokey ! and what I've liked about him too is , unlike others , he hasn't been phased too much when we're under the pump. He's a kid so he makes a few blues but always seems composed and measured.
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10 year player :thumbsup
He is but I hope he learns to keep moving when he takes a mark, not look around instinctively.. Campbell must have taught that, the king of stagnant footy.
Well Campbell needs addressing by the head coach if thats the case. Or shown the door because if our players are not executing clean fast flowing football then we will not progress. The game plan will breakdown
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Well Campbell needs addressing by the head coach if thats the case.
Well the skills coach taught him skills , the defensive coach taught him defence so what's the head coach gonna teach him Monkey ? ;D
Sorry , oldie but a goodie
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Well Campbell needs addressing by the head coach if thats the case.
Well the skills coach taught him skills , the defensive coach taught him defence so what's the head coach gonna teach him Monkey ? ;D
Sorry , oldie but a goodie
How to use his brains. ;D
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Do you think that we should judge FJ on our 1st round draft picks?
Yep, should be judged on every pick and I think his hit rate since going full time and being handed overall responsibility for drafting has been better than most. Cops an unfair whack from many on here does FJ.
Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
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I'd love to see FJ pick up a gun pick in the later rounds even pick 19-20, like a Fyfe or Callum Ward :pray
Ben Griffiths and Jake Batchelor - watch this space.
Fair call, actually know people involved with both players at under age level and both highly rated - both as players but also kids with great attitudes.
Here's hoping. :thumbsup
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one thing about him and its a bit inane, rfc have him listed at 185cm there is not a hope in hell that he is 185cm. height wise looking at him i would classify him a small. having stood next to him i know hes a small.
Aren't you about as tall as Sandilands though the claw?
I thought Concs was about 182-83, good size for an inside mid, slightly bigger than Marc Murphy
Definite upgrade on Foley
sheesh i wish. im 185 shrunk a bit in old age its why i can state conca is not 185cm. id be surprised if he tops 180cm just smaking a point as so many i speak to talk about him being a lovely size.
on his yr. geez for a first yr player whos small whos had little pre season how anyone can complain about what hes done is beyond me. yep he has plenty to work on but hes hard at it looks to have tidy skills sheesh a rfc draftee with good skills. will be a genuine midfielder and he will be good both inside and out.
in saying all this i still prefer heppell always have.thats not to say both are not going to be decent players. they will.
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and sh1thouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
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Collins gone. (Grigg)
tambling gone. (future draft pick)
Browne is slow but v young for ruckman needs time.
Dea may fail,webberly vfl standard. But again need more time. If astbury was playing for Geelong or collingwood he wouldn't be expected to debut untill his 3rd season. Overrated is harsh.
I would go so far as
to say the 2006/08 drafties while not superstars but one of them could come good a couple years down the track as they can't all be delisted (post. Connors. Edwards.)
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Have heard some comparisons around the traps with the great Benny Cousins.
I reckon this kid has it & in time will become one of our best.
High ceiling of improvement.
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Humorous the guy has played less than 20 AFL games, has a NAB rising star nomination.
Will be a solid player for +200 games. Won't win a brownlow if that is what everyone is expecting.
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Thanks Nostradamus :thumbsup
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Humorous the guy has played less than 20 AFL games, has a NAB rising star nomination.
Will be a solid player for +200 games. Won't win a brownlow if that is what everyone is expecting.
Not sure I said he'd win a Brownlow but he's a very talented young footballer. I think he should model himself on Cousins.
What he needs to do to enter that stratosphere is work on is his gut running and strength to become the best he can be.
That' what Benny did. Busted his balls to be the best. That's what separated himself from the rest.
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Humorous the guy has played less than 20 AFL games, has a NAB rising star nomination.
Will be a solid player for +200 games. Won't win a brownlow if that is what everyone is expecting.
got a crystal ball hey, with oyur track record , that'll mean he prob win 10 :lol
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stuff me the knives are out.
The kid is a fine player, with a long career ahead of him.
If you watched more than 2-3 games this year you'd agree.
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Humorous the guy has played less than 20 AFL games, has a NAB rising star nomination.
Will be a solid player for +200 games. Won't win a brownlow if that is what everyone is expecting.
got a crystal ball hey, with oyur track record , that'll mean he prob win 10 :lol
Care to explain that comment?
Or are we just throwing snips here and there?
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and poohouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
not a bad analysis. personally not prepared to really pass judgment on any kid after 07. so for me jackson has been a failure in his first 3 drafts 05,06,07. to me rance is another i would put in the suspect list.
will say at this stage 08 looks like we will get just 1 decent player from it. i think the first 4 picks from 09 look promising as does grimes taken psd.
will also say 2010 looks promising with conca batchelor helbig showing something already and too early to make a call on others.my gripe with 2010 is where we took players. personally i thought batchelor would be there much later and a lot of others thought that way as well. personally i had heppel 8. was torn between 4 or 5 mids which included hallahan parker horlin-smith,fasolo and michie at 30, but opted for pat mccarthy and list structure . batchelor i will argue to the cows come home would have been available at 47.litherland and johnson two talls are players i would have taken instead of macdonald at 51 who i believe would have lasted to the rookie draft or at least to 63 or 79. its a draft where we have imo picked up some decent players i really think we could have done much better in the way we went about it.
overall i reckon we have a base of 15 long term players i say 15 based on strengths weaknesses some of them have not proven a thing to date.
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i don't mind taking players early if they are good players, better than missing out on them
i know we wanted conca, batch & helbig and landed them all
that's gotta be a win
agree on mcdonald
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Humorous the guy has played less than 20 AFL games, has a NAB rising star nomination.
Will be a solid player for +200 games. Won't win a brownlow if that is what everyone is expecting.
got a crystal ball hey, with oyur track record , that'll mean he prob win 10 :lol
Care to explain that comment?
Or are we just throwing snips here and there?
you're the master of the BIG call pope, to suggest how a kids career will unfold prior to playing 20 games is outrageous ::)
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Just on the first year players like Conca, I think the long AFL season caught up with them by the halfway point and it's one of the reasons we've struggled in the second half of the season (lack of depth). Mind you last week was probably Conca's best game since the first half of the year.
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and poohouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
not a bad analysis. personally not prepared to really pass judgment on any kid after 07. so for me jackson has been a failure in his first 3 drafts 05,06,07. to me rance is another i would put in the suspect list.
will say at this stage 08 looks like we will get just 1 decent player from it. i think the first 4 picks from 09 look promising as does grimes taken psd.
will also say 2010 looks promising with conca batchelor helbig showing something already and too early to make a call on others.my gripe with 2010 is where we took players. personally i thought batchelor would be there much later and a lot of others thought that way as well. personally i had heppel 8. was torn between 4 or 5 mids which included hallahan parker horlin-smith,fasolo and michie at 30, but opted for pat mccarthy and list structure . batchelor i will argue to the cows come home would have been available at 47.litherland and johnson two talls are players i would have taken instead of macdonald at 51 who i believe would have lasted to the rookie draft or at least to 63 or 79. its a draft where we have IMO picked up some decent players i really think we could have done much better in the way we went about it.
overall i reckon we have a base of 15 long term players i say 15 based on strengths weaknesses some of them have not proven a thing to date.
Think i may have read it wrong but did you say-
08, 1 decent player??? Post??? If you cannot tell this kid will not make it then you have no idea. Agreed he deserves more time, but its not looking good
The first 4 picks of 09 look promising???? Griffiths, looks like he might be something but still really, really early to tell.
Astbury, IMO will not make it. Slow, cannot defend, isn't a great grab, slow to make decisions. I know this is an early call but it is how i see it. Would be over the moon to be wrong but to be honest cannot see it.
Dea, IMO from what i have seen, will not make it. Would have been the perfect kid to put on your rookie list, not draft in the 3rd round!
Taylor, well do i have to even comment! Potential is one thing but becoming a valuable player for the club is another.
Both those drafts are a disgrace!
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and poohouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
not a bad analysis. personally not prepared to really pass judgment on any kid after 07. so for me jackson has been a failure in his first 3 drafts 05,06,07. to me rance is another i would put in the suspect list.
will say at this stage 08 looks like we will get just 1 decent player from it. i think the first 4 picks from 09 look promising as does grimes taken psd.
will also say 2010 looks promising with conca batchelor helbig showing something already and too early to make a call on others.my gripe with 2010 is where we took players. personally i thought batchelor would be there much later and a lot of others thought that way as well. personally i had heppel 8. was torn between 4 or 5 mids which included hallahan parker horlin-smith,fasolo and michie at 30, but opted for pat mccarthy and list structure . batchelor i will argue to the cows come home would have been available at 47.litherland and johnson two talls are players i would have taken instead of macdonald at 51 who i believe would have lasted to the rookie draft or at least to 63 or 79. its a draft where we have IMO picked up some decent players i really think we could have done much better in the way we went about it.
overall i reckon we have a base of 15 long term players i say 15 based on strengths weaknesses some of them have not proven a thing to date.
Think i may have read it wrong but did you say-
08, 1 decent player??? Post??? If you cannot tell this kid will not make it then you have no idea. Agreed he deserves more time, but its not looking good
The first 4 picks of 09 look promising???? Griffiths, looks like he might be something but still really, really early to tell.
Astbury, IMO will not make it. Slow, cannot defend, isn't a great grab, slow to make decisions. I know this is an early call but it is how i see it. Would be over the moon to be wrong but to be honest cannot see it.
Dea, IMO from what i have seen, will not make it. Would have been the perfect kid to put on your rookie list, not draft in the 3rd round!
Taylor, well do i have to even comment! Potential is one thing but becoming a valuable player for the club is another.
Both those drafts are a disgrace!
wasnt vickery taken in 08 at 8. and agree post needs more time while concerned im not prepared to write him off just yet. i think if hes where he is now at the end of next yr he will be in the gun.
as stated i think 09 and 10 promising not prepared to pass judgement on those taken. unlike you i like the look of dea. and i reckon both astbury and griffiths while doing little have shown enough to suggest they may be decent picks.these 3 have had their fair share of injury as well. griffiths is not one i would have taken at 19 but we have him and we have to give him every opportunity to either succeed or fail in a reasonable time frame.
i disagree on astburys pace. i think he has both reasonable pace and agility i also think him a forward. for me with these big blokes its a matter in the first two or 3 seasons to get a bit of size and strength into them before i expect them to really compete.as i said too early to make a judgment.
do i have concerns just like you yes i do but i do think we have to be patient and give whatever kids we take a reasonable amount of time and factor in things like injury size position etc.
based on giving all recrits a reasonable amount of time im only prepared to pass judgment on jacksons 05 06 07 and next yr 08.
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rance is suspect? What other key talls backs in similar age range or young mr claw do you rate superior prospects to one Alex rance. ?
Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and poohouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
not a bad analysis. personally not prepared to really pass judgment on any kid after 07. so for me jackson has been a failure in his first 3 drafts 05,06,07. to me rance is another i would put in the suspect list.
will say at this stage 08 looks like we will get just 1 decent player from it. i think the first 4 picks from 09 look promising as does grimes taken psd.
will also say 2010 looks promising with conca batchelor helbig showing something already and too early to make a call on others.my gripe with 2010 is where we took players. personally i thought batchelor would be there much later and a lot of others thought that way as well. personally i had heppel 8. was torn between 4 or 5 mids which included hallahan parker horlin-smith,fasolo and michie at 30, but opted for pat mccarthy and list structure . batchelor i will argue to the cows come home would have been available at 47.litherland and johnson two talls are players i would have taken instead of macdonald at 51 who i believe would have lasted to the rookie draft or at least to 63 or 79. its a draft where we have imo picked up some decent players i really think we could have done much better in the way we went about it.
overall i reckon we have a base of 15 long term players i say 15 based on strengths weaknesses some of them have not proven a thing to date.
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Not even going to bite> FJ is an Fwit!
You base that on what?
Hey Smokey, posted this list before so it has the 04 draft included in it but you may still get the picture
2004 (first pick was Lids)
Tambling - Gone and poohouse
Meyer - Gone
Pattison - Gone
Polo - Gone
McGuane - solid at best
Limbach - Who??
Mark Graham Gone/enough said
2005 (JON)
Hughes - Gone
Casserly - Gone
2006 (Jack)
Edwards - No good
Conners - Out this week and probably in the last 5 picked in OUR side every week
Peterson - Gone
Collins - Gone
2007 (Cotchin)
Rance - will be a good player
Putt - Gone
2008 (Vickory))
Post - Will not make it
Hislop - Got to be joking!!!!
2009 (Martin)
Griffiths - Ok signs but not holding my breath
Astbury - Over rated and personally don’t think will be anything
Dea - Cannot see it
Taylor - Got to hard- Gone
Webberley - VFL footballer
Nason - Skinny, weak, wouldn’t get a game for Balwyn
Nahas - Good tryer, but can see why most dislike him
Browne - Slow, cannot see him making it
2010 (Conca)
Batchelor - may be OK, early signs are good but seen it before
Helbig - Like the kid but just a good hard at it player, no real skill
MacDonald - not sure
Derickx - not sure
Gourdis Gone at the end of the year
Now my point was "without including our first round draft pick (which i think has been really good, except JON) we have drafted poorly"
Thats why i think FJ is an Fwit
not a bad analysis. personally not prepared to really pass judgment on any kid after 07. so for me jackson has been a failure in his first 3 drafts 05,06,07. to me rance is another i would put in the suspect list.
will say at this stage 08 looks like we will get just 1 decent player from it. i think the first 4 picks from 09 look promising as does grimes taken psd.
will also say 2010 looks promising with conca batchelor helbig showing something already and too early to make a call on others.my gripe with 2010 is where we took players. personally i thought batchelor would be there much later and a lot of others thought that way as well. personally i had heppel 8. was torn between 4 or 5 mids which included hallahan parker horlin-smith,fasolo and michie at 30, but opted for pat mccarthy and list structure . batchelor i will argue to the cows come home would have been available at 47.litherland and johnson two talls are players i would have taken instead of macdonald at 51 who i believe would have lasted to the rookie draft or at least to 63 or 79. its a draft where we have IMO picked up some decent players i really think we could have done much better in the way we went about it.
overall i reckon we have a base of 15 long term players i say 15 based on strengths weaknesses some of them have not proven a thing to date.
Think i may have read it wrong but did you say-
08, 1 decent player??? Post??? If you cannot tell this kid will not make it then you have no idea. Agreed he deserves more time, but its not looking good
The first 4 picks of 09 look promising???? Griffiths, looks like he might be something but still really, really early to tell.
Astbury, IMO will not make it. Slow, cannot defend, isn't a great grab, slow to make decisions. I know this is an early call but it is how i see it. Would be over the moon to be wrong but to be honest cannot see it.
Dea, IMO from what i have seen, will not make it. Would have been the perfect kid to put on your rookie list, not draft in the 3rd round!
Taylor, well do i have to even comment! Potential is one thing but becoming a valuable player for the club is another.
Both those drafts are a disgrace!
wasnt vickery taken in 08 at 8. and agree post needs more time while concerned im not prepared to write him off just yet. i think if hes where he is now at the end of next yr he will be in the gun.
as stated i think 09 and 10 promising not prepared to pass judgement on those taken. unlike you i like the look of dea. and i reckon both astbury and griffiths while doing little have shown enough to suggest they may be decent picks.these 3 have had their fair share of injury as well. griffiths is not one i would have taken at 19 but we have him and we have to give him every opportunity to either succeed or fail in a reasonable time frame.
i disagree on astburys pace. i think he has both reasonable pace and agility i also think him a forward. for me with these big blokes its a matter in the first two or 3 seasons to get a bit of size and strength into them before i expect them to really compete.as i said too early to make a judgment.
do i have concerns just like you yes i do but i do think we have to be patient and give whatever kids we take a reasonable amount of time and factor in things like injury size position etc.
based on giving all recrits a reasonable amount of time im only prepared to pass judgment on jacksons 05 06 07 and next yr 08.
Yer on Vickory, got this post from a thread earlier in the year where i was stating 'other than our first picks in those drafts how bad we had done in drafting players since 04'
Fair enough on the other stuff.... only time will tell and im hoping im wrong on my thoughts on Dea, Post and Astbury :pray
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yep il call it now as i did 6 months ago another mistake IMO from the RFC
average size player who seems slow
Another Farmer
why we took a risk on this guy is beyond me. We werent in a position to take risks yet we did on your dime a dozen small/med players
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yep il call it now as i did 6 months ago another mistake IMO from the RFC
average size player who seems slow
Another Farmer
why we took a risk on this guy is beyond me. We werent in a position to take risks yet we did on your dime a dozen small/med players
still only 18 FFS
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2 early and nobody is as shi† as the farmers daughter!!
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yep il call it now as i did 6 months ago another mistake IMO from the RFC
average size player who seems slow
Another Farmer
why we took a risk on this guy is beyond me. We werent in a position to take risks yet we did on your dime a dozen small/med players
lol you gotta be kiddin....
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yep il call it now as i did 6 months ago another mistake IMO from the RFC
average size player who seems slow
Another Farmer
why we took a risk on this guy is beyond me. We werent in a position to take risks yet we did on your dime a dozen small/med players
still only 18 FFS
We agree for the 3rd time.
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like i said IMO and il stand by that.
the bloke reminds me of a cross between Free/Banik and Farmer.
Yes i know his 18 yes i know his first year but this is a thread and he looks too small and slow for my liking
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Conca had a limited pre season due to injury and still his work ethic would put a lot of our seasoned players to shame. Runs well, kicks the ball very well and understands and reads the game better than most of our list. I think he is a keeper and will be a solid player for us in the coming years.
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
Sam Mitchell is also another good example IMO. His not overly fast but he seems to create alot of time for him self with ball in hand.
I think its two early to judge Conca. Hopefully he can build up a bigger tank over the pre-season which I have no doubt he will.
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You cant deny we should have taken Heppell who was a much safer bet?
In saying that Reece will be a serviceable player but no Chris Judd...
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
Yep I love his work through traffic bc he also hits packs and one grabs the footy at full pace - not many players can do that
also, just on his pace - he's not slow, much quicker than your broderick, mitchell diesel types, not a jet like Lids but not slow either.
Not sure how some see him as a dud, got me stumped
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You cant deny we should have taken Heppell who was a much safer bet?
In saying that Reece will be a serviceable player but no Chris Judd...
Why was heppel a safer bet?
He was expected to go earlier but supposedly slipped because of long term doubts over his knee.
how strong a character is heppel? Di Hird play him primarily as a loose man in defence early in the season because he felt that heppel needs to be nursed along, whereas dimma was happy for conca to learn some harsh lessons early on?
conca wont be the best draft pick taken last year, but i believe he was one of the safest and will more than likely be a very valuable player to the club.
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Heppell shirks contests. Yet to see Reece shirk a contest.
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Concs has been a great pickup. He will be in the midfield soon enough imho.
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Heppell shirks contests. Yet to see Reece shirk a contest.
Seen Heppell go back with the flight a few times though. Not all 18 year olds can come into the AFL and have the courage of Rance, Selwood etc
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conca will be better than martin
watch this space
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I tell ya from what i have seen so far this heppel boy might just turn out to be a superstar
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conc is least of our worries, another pre season and he will come out and in great shape 2012...he's very much a cub still...shuey is in his third year by comparrison
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It's Reece's 19th birthday today :birthday
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Kid's so old. Should be a star by now. Delist!!!
:P
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He's not at the Rising Star award because he's recovering from surgery.
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Reece is recovering from surgery which is why he isn't at the Rising Star Award ceremony today.
Edit: Oops didn't see wayne's post :wallywink
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Reece is recovering from surgery which is why he isn't at the Rising Star Award ceremony today.
What sort of surgery OE? Is there any timeline to recovery?
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Reece is recovering from surgery which is why he isn't at the Rising Star Award ceremony today.
What sort of surgery OE? Is there any timeline to recovery?
Minor surgery on Monday ;) will be ready for pre-season :thumbsup
Just another one we played when there was no need too :banghead
I see a pattern here ;D
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so basically our club are a pack of effwits?
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He's not at the Rising Star award because he's recovering from surgery.
Surely not the ankle problem he had last year??
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He's not at the Rising Star award because he's recovering from surgery.
Surely not the ankle problem he had last year??
Nope
I have heard 2 different things about it (but ankle wasn't one of them) so I will wait and ask the kid next week at the B&F :thumbsup
Minor surgery on Monday ;) will be ready for pre-season :thumbsup
Just another one we played when there was no need too :banghead
I see a pattern here ;D
Will confess I like a dog with bone over this issue. :banghead
The number of blokes who've we appear to have played when there was absolutely no need too is staggering and that's being kind
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We ended up with 26 senior list players fit to play. That includes 2 upgraded rookies. I can well understand the club playing players requiring surgery and delaying surgery.
Every club does it. It's the way it works with limited lists.
Probably worse with us with the # of underdeveloped kids we have.
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Groin was an issue
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Groin was an issue
That was one of the reasons I heard
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Groin was an issue
That was one of the reasons I heard
Sounds suspiciously like OP? :(
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Groin was an issue
That was one of the reasons I heard
Sounds suspiciously like OP? :(
Don't think so smokey as I said I heard 2 possible reasons for the surgery one was groin but it was wasn't OP related
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Groin was an issue
That was one of the reasons I heard
Sounds suspiciously like OP? :(
Don't think so smokey as I said I heard 2 possible reasons for the surgery one was groin but it was wasn't OP related
Thanks WP, hopefully that's good news.
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Heppell choked in the finals
long live conca.
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Heppell choked in the finals
Yes but he certainly wasn't alone.
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Heppell choked in the finals
long live conca.
It's the overrated underachieving club he plays for.
They beat up on the lesser sides and get horribly bashed up by the better ones.
Other than Geelong they have suffered at least a minimum of a 9 goal loss to the top 5.
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Chonka is gonna be a champ. Pre injury he was solid gold. First year player and he is doing a Dusty on us, very impressive I reckon.
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I think you'd fit in well at Beige these days, owl. you should ask them to let you return :lol
Conca is alright
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Heppell choked in the finals
long live conca.
It's the overrated underachieving club he plays for.
They beat up on the lesser sides and get horribly bashed up by the better ones.
Other than Geelong they have suffered at least a minimum of a 9 goal loss to the top 5.
Spot on Tucky :thumbsup
Let's judge all these top 10 draftees in 2-3 years time. I like the look of Reece and Heppell has done extremely well for a first year player but for mine Andrew Gaff will turn out the best of the crop of mids.
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heppell is so overrated its not funny
anyone can play a loose man in defence and have no accountability n
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Heppell choked in the finals
long live conca.
Other than Geelong they have suffered at least a minimum of a 9 goal loss to the top 5.
Which is where we faired against the top 5, however they did beat one and we did not.
They are overated and had we beaten them in the second match this year, freo would of probably held onto its spot in the 8, or maybe nort melb but anyhow theyre punces!! haha :lol
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With any luck they'll get ahead of themselves. They are no better than we are, or any of the other teams around the 8 - 12 ladder position. We didn't deserve finals this year, neither did the Bombers and they proved it on Sunday.
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"deserve" finals
what an absolute wank
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lol. thanks hully
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:-*
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Out of the draft: Reece Conca video...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/404763/out-of-the-draft-reece-conca/
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one switched on kid.
:thumbsup
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Conca rules
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Sun 01 Jan, 2012
The following article was featured in the 2011 Fighting Tiger Yearbook.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick’s quest to build fervent belief within the Club’s playing group is starting to bear fruit, as the young Tigers progress to the next phase in their exciting football journey.
One of those Tiger cubs - Reece Conca - exemplifies the growing belief among the players at Punt Road.
The Tigers’ No. 1 pick in the 2010 AFL National Draft (No. 6 overall) had a somewhat rocky start to his league career.
After a solid 15-disposal debut performance in the Round 1 loss to Carlton, Conca was handed the tough assignment of curbing the experienced, dangerous St Kilda goal-sneak, Stephen Milne, in the Round 2 clash at the MCG.
Conca tried hard, but the wily, slippery Milne got hold of him, kicking 4.7 in the drawn encounter.
A player of lesser character might have dropped their bundle a bit after that, however, Conca, with the strong backing of his coach, dug deep and proceeded to bounce back in style.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127596/default.aspx
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Think I am looking forward to what he provides in his 2nd year more than any other player.
Has some exceptional attributes.
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Think I am looking forward to what he provides in his 2nd year more than any other player.
Has some exceptional attributes.
Imagine what he will be like with a full preseason behind him. Last year he barely had bugger all.
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Think I am looking forward to what he provides in his 2nd year more than any other player.
Has some exceptional attributes.
Imagine what he will be like with a full preseason behind him. Last year he barely had bugger all.
He won't have a full pre season, sore groins but either way, this kids a keeper
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Still haven't seen the conclusive evidence that this kid will be as good as quite a few are touting.
He has potential, time will tell if he is able to produce high quality football.
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
Give him a break TBR, he's of Italian heritage, he looks like that 15 minutes after his last shave!
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:clapping
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"deserve" finals
what an absolute wank
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
He reminds me of Hans Klopek off 'The Burbs'
http://theburbs.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hans_Klopek&image=Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81-png
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100405211639/theburbs/images/thumb/7/7f/Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png/830px-Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png)
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
Suppose we should trade him too.. :lol
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
He reminds me of Hans Klopek off 'The Burbs'
http://theburbs.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hans_Klopek&image=Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81-png
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100405211639/theburbs/images/thumb/7/7f/Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png/830px-Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png)
And he reminds me of Cooney :o (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQETrAU8jDwDnTKG1tCW_bzcVS3rsAqBFP7G1cjfQTU2LUylJwLTYs1zDxdDA)
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Think I am looking forward to what he provides in his 2nd year more than any other player.
Has some exceptional attributes.
Imagine what he will be like with a full preseason behind him. Last year he barely had bugger all.
Hopefully the top 10 finish in the run around the Tan is a sign Reece's fitness has really improved now he is having a full preseason.
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Like to see him have a regular shave.
He reminds me of Hans Klopek off 'The Burbs'
http://theburbs.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hans_Klopek&image=Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81-png
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100405211639/theburbs/images/thumb/7/7f/Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png/830px-Vlcsnap-2010-01-28-20h10m20s81.png)
And he reminds me of Cooney :o (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQETrAU8jDwDnTKG1tCW_bzcVS3rsAqBFP7G1cjfQTU2LUylJwLTYs1zDxdDA)
The was the little lookalike chart I did back in February. I had Reece down for Bobcat Goldthwait. ;D
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2940/uncanny.jpg) (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/uncanny.jpg/)
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Think I am looking forward to what he provides in his 2nd year more than any other player.
Has some exceptional attributes.
Imagine what he will be like with a full preseason behind him. Last year he barely had bugger all.
Hopefully the top 10 finish in the run around the Tan is a sign Reece's fitness has really improved now he is having a full preseason.
Absolutely.
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The was the little lookalike chart I did back in February. I had Reece down for Bobcat Goldthwait. ;D
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2940/uncanny.jpg) (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/uncanny.jpg/)
That is great work tiga :bow
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You very unattractive man Victor.....
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You very unattractive man Victor.....
Victor you very unattractive man. :thumbsup
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You very unattractive man Victor.....
Victor you very unattractive man. :thumbsup
Whoops... :lol
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You very unattractive man Victor.....
Victor you very unattractive man. :thumbsup
Whoops... :lol
No excuses big fella ;)
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:laugh: :clapping
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Reece being interviewed about non-footy stuff.....
Going under the Tigerscope
richmondfc.com.au
Thu 12 Jan, 2012
Throughout 2012, Roar Vision will put the spotlight on the Richmond playing list, in an ongoing video series titled Under the Tigerscope.
Tiger fans will find out plenty about their favourite players, including their off-field habits and hobbies, thoughts on team-mates and what their lives might be like without footy.
The videos will air on Roar Vision in the lead-up to the 2012 season, and once per week during the season.
Promising youngster Reece Conca was first to go Under the Tigerscope.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=43hJVhhI7u4
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127821/default.aspx
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Deck of Dream Team 2012: Reece Conca
Posted by Warnie on 13/1/12
http://dreamteamtalk.com
Categorised as Deck Of Dream Team
Name: Reece Conca
Club: Richmond Tigers
Position: Defender
Assistant Coach 2012 Price: $274,100
Bye Round: 13
2011 Average: 55.41
2011 Games Played: 17
Predicted Average: 75
Why should I pick him?
Reece Conca could be a bit of a smoky for your Dream Team backline in 2012. He is priced at and average of only 55 points, but has shown he will be capable of a much higher average in 2012. Going into his second season, Conca played 17 out of the first 18 games for the Tigers in his debut year before a leg injury kept him out for the final 4 rounds (note: he was omitted for Round 15). The number 6 draft pick was rated highly at Punt Road to play from Round 1 and was given a pretty good chance to make an impact.
As a junior, Conca collected plenty of the ball playing as a midfielder gathering around 20 disposals at the under 16 and under 18 championships – averaging 73 DT points in the U18 carnival. He was also playing senior WAFL football the year before being drafted. While not being an absolute DT jet, he can accumulate and in my opinion, is capable of being a consistent 70+ scorer at AFL level.
The reason for this is that from Round 4-9, Conca went through an awesome Dream Team scoring patch. 87, 70, 77, 83, 80 and 99 points were racked up over that 6 week period at an average of 82.66. This in itself demonstrates plenty of potential. We must take into account his average of 55 from 17 games includes 4 games where he was used as a substitute bringing his average down. Round 3 vs Hawks (30 points – subbed off in 3rd), Round 14 vs Demons (27 points – subbed off in 3rd), Round 17 vs Suns (50 points – subbed on in 3rd) and Round 20 vs Eagles (8 points – subbed on in 3rd).
If he was listed as a midfielder, you wouldn’t touch him… but now that he has been named purely as a defender for the 2012 DT season, then we can find some value. There have been countless articles about players getting midfield time, and Conca had his back on December 4 in the Herald Sun.
Changes are also planned for the midfield, with Conca – likened by the Richmond coach to a young Marc Murphy – to get his chance on the ball next year. He will be joined by dual best and fairest Deledio, set to be released from his role at halfback thanks to the recruitment of quality kicks like Ellis, Morris, Dea and Houli.
That’s all pretty positive. I think no matter which way we look at him, he’s a bargain priced at only 55.
Why shouldn’t I pick him?
It’s a bit of a gamble going with Conca and you’ve got to be realistic with what to expect from him. An average, as I have predicted, of 75 would rank him in the top 30 defenders. Is this enough for that price? Is he too expensive to use as a mid-priced player to upgrade in this world of guns and rookies?
Ok… you’re not picking him as a keeper, but we need to keep in mind the spread of players for the byes. The Tigers have theirs in the horrific Round 13 bye round. You’ve got your St Kilda, Carlton and Hawthorn guys to think about there. But maybe Round 13 would be a great time to upgrade Conca? Hmm.
Will he suffer from some second year blues? Will he really get much midfield time with Cotchin, Deledio, Martin, Foley, et al? Could he find himself with a green or red vest a bit? A lot of questions here that we can’t answer now, but we have the whole NAB Cup to look at him and his role.
Deck of DT Rating.
JACK – Reece Conca is awkwardly priced, but without a doubt a bargain. I have no qualms that he will average 70+… maybe 75-80 which gives him a 20 point per game improvement on 2011. When I threw it out there on Twitter about him, Glenn Luff (big dog down at Champion Data) responded “he’ll play mid this year. Will produce good numbers as a defender. #geton“. So in that case, I am going to ‘get on’ and hopefully look like a genius when he tears it up!
http://dreamteamtalk.com/2012/01/13/deck-of-dream-team-2012-reece-conca/
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Interesting
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RISING STAR REVISITED
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 22, 2012
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
Stiff to be so low. Underlines talent in the 24. Seen a bit of him at half-back, but would like to see more through the middle. Will be very good, but was he worth the No.6 national draft pick Richmond used? Jury out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/rising-star-award-winner-dyson-heppell-overtaken-already/story-fncqi979-1226306446365
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A little early to draw up a puff piece like this.
Conce looked great in his opening NAB cup games.
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RISING STAR REVISITED
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 22, 2012
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
Stiff to be so low. Underlines talent in the 24. Seen a bit of him at half-back, but would like to see more through the middle. Will be very good, but was he worth the No.6 national draft pick Richmond used? Jury out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/rising-star-award-winner-dyson-heppell-overtaken-already/story-fncqi979-1226306446365
What was the order OE?
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RISING STAR REVISITED
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 22, 2012
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
Stiff to be so low. Underlines talent in the 24. Seen a bit of him at half-back, but would like to see more through the middle. Will be very good, but was he worth the No.6 national draft pick Richmond used? Jury out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/rising-star-award-winner-dyson-heppell-overtaken-already/story-fncqi979-1226306446365
What was the order OE?
Sam Reid was number 1.
From what I could make out, he's ranked 1 because the Swans gave him a 5 year deal in December.
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Conca not named in the Coburg side this weekend so it might mean he's playing on Thursday night.
RISING STAR REVISITED
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 22, 2012
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
Stiff to be so low. Underlines talent in the 24. Seen a bit of him at half-back, but would like to see more through the middle. Will be very good, but was he worth the No.6 national draft pick Richmond used? Jury out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/rising-star-award-winner-dyson-heppell-overtaken-already/story-fncqi979-1226306446365
What was the order OE?
1. Sam Reid (Sydney)
2. Jack Darling (West Coast)
3. Zac Smith (Gold Coast)
4. David Swallow (Gold Coast)
5. Luke Shuey (West Coast)
6. Dyson Heppell (Essendon)
7. Brandon Matera (Gold Coast)
8. Andrew Gaff (West Coast)
9. Daniel Menzel (Geelong)
10. Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
11. Trent McKenzie (Gold Coast)
12. Allen Christensen (Geelong)
13. Luke Dahlhaus (Western Bulldogs)
14. Alex Fasolo (Collingwood)
15. Liam Jones (Western Bulldogs)
16. Luke Bruest (Hawthorn)
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
18. Shane Savage (Hawthorn)
19. Jack Steven (St Kilda)
20. Zac Clarke (Fremantle)
21. Jake Batchelor (Richmond)
22. Sam Blease (Melbourne)
23. Jordan Gysberts (Melbourne)
24. Jasper Pittard (Port Adelaide)
Last year's actual NAB Rising Star Vote winners
Dyson Heppell (Essendon) 44
Luke Shuey (West Coast) 37
Zac Smith (Gold Coast) 21
David Swallow (Gold Coast) 18
Jack Darling (West Coast) 6
Sam Reid (Sydney) 5
Daniel Menzel (Geelong) 1
Trent McKenzie (Gold Coast) 1
Andrew Gaff (West Coast) 1
Jack Steven (St Kilda) 1
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Still learning his 2nd year but Reece's class when he has the footy shines through compared to some of his older teammates who continually butcher it. The media can keep ignoring him and let him fly under the radar compared to his high profile draft peers. The more better uses of the footy like Conca we have the merrier.
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Totally agree.... He will be better than Martin... And guys like Foley and Jackson should be embarrassed to wear our jumper
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Still learning his 2nd year but Reece's class when he has the footy shines through compared to some of his older teammates who continually butcher it. The media can keep ignoring him and let him fly under the radar compared to his high profile draft peers. The more better uses of the footy like Conca we have the merrier.
More than happy to finally have a classy under the radar type player. Sick of hype. Conca prob top 5 favourite players at the club. No frills, no lime light, just gets the job done, will be a great player.
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Conca
Gets the contested footy.
Is good in traffic.
Uses the footy well.
Thought early last year he might be a bit soft but the kid is a hard nut and will be a solid solid footballer.
Its what you want a player who will fly under the radar and will play 200 games plus for you.
Yet we have blokes who have played 80-100 games for us and would not play in other AFL sides VFL equivalents.
As I said solid solid footballer.
I have alot of time for Reece as a footballer. :thumbsup
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He just never seems to be flustered , even under pressure. That's the sort of attribute you cannot develop, players either have it or they don't. At times he moves with an unobtrusive grace.
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Reece interviewed after the game...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/438026/default.aspx
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Not soft at all. Gets hit in the head lots. Jude bolton :thumbsup
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I think hes tracking well....my only concern with him is he appears to me to lack leg speed...Although as Diesel williams showed you dont have to have leg speed to be a superstar
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a fast mind more than compensates for lack of leg speed, as does lateral movement. as you say williams is a good example, as was broddo.
reece often seems to have time when he has the ball
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Reece dal santo conca
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Dal Santo is a soft pindick
Concs is a rock
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Reece jimmy bartel conca
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Really developing well now as a footballer and finding the odd goal as well. He's going ok!
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Shut up Bents, he's nothing like bartel
He is a gem though, if Heppell had a game like conca today he's be labelled a champion already. Love the speed this guy hitsthe contest at, full bore!
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His tackling and pressure today really stood out. His toughness against the older players is also starting to show too. Maturity i think they call it. ;)
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BOG
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Our recruiting last year doesn't get enough credit.
Conca and Batchelor have been immense pick ups.
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His tackling and pressure today really stood out. His toughness against the older players is also starting to show too. Maturity i think they call it. ;)
Natural footballer and very underrated. Love the way he goes about it.
Hard nosed goalkicking midfielders are priceless. :thumbsup
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All I can say is.....
I TOLD YOU SO!
he will be better than Martin cos he can do it all and has a defensive side to his game
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His tackling and pressure today really stood out. His toughness against the older players is also starting to show too. Maturity i think they call it. ;)
Natural footballer and very underrated. Love the way he goes about it.
Hard nosed goalkicking midfielders are priceless. :thumbsup
took him a long time to get his first goal - reminds me a bit of steve waugh in taking a long time to get his first century......
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Absolute gun - is fast becoming my favourite player. :clapping
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Very good again, Dylan Grimes is 40/1 for the Rising Star award.....
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Concs was good today for sure, I kinda like how he has slid under the radar, means that he will open them up if they don't give him his due.
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His goal on the run where he launched it from close to 60 metres out was as Bruce would say....."Special".
Looking forward to his DT stats with great anticipation
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whoa, this kid attacks ea contest like a locomotive, his disposal has the precision of a surgeons scalpel...great pickup :clapping...I often have visions of this fella holding a premiership cup aloft amid a sea of Y&B :shh
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His goal on the run where he launched it from close to 60 metres out was as Bruce would say....."Special".
Looking forward to his DT stats with great anticipation
134 pts :thumbsup
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When young midfielders like Conca start kicking goals on the run from 50 and 60 then the club has hope that we are still moving forward and improving. Conca showing excellent signs.
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When young midfielders like Conca start kicking goals on the run from 50 and 60 then the club has hope that we are still moving forward and improving. Conca showing excellent signs.
thats what i took out of what was largely a poohouse game. The fact that we are uncovering more and more players who look like they can play afl keeps you positive that we're moving forward.
Guys like Rance, Grimes, Ellis, Morris, Conca, Batchelor, Houli, Foley, Maric, Grigg - these are 10 players who werent in our 22 two years ago.
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BOG
yep was mine as well.
this kid will be elite.
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Well I mite be peelin the number 8 off my kids guensy and putting on number 30 kazamm!! :shh
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Clearly his best game. Not sure he has the capacity to be an elite A grader but will still be a very good player for us :thumbsup
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Clearly his best game. Not sure he has the capacity to be an elite A grader but will still be a very good player for us :thumbsup
He has a big arse.....
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LOL will a big behind hinder or further his footballing ability?
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Best game thus far by Reece - no doubt more onthe way :clapping
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Yes I think a few of his critics may want to go back and read their pathetic posts, really, I am not sure how people could of made the failure call on this kid so early in his first year when they did.....amazing!!!
I alway knew he would be good and we haven't seen anything yet, I know it was against the Dees but the the rest of the players lifting he will be able to play his game and have a real impact.....go Reece. :thumbsup
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Hope commnand & conque pays on heppel for dreamtime.. rips him a new a hoke
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:lol
are you peeed bents or posting from a phone? ;D
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:lol
are you peeed bents or posting from a phone? ;D
Maybee be booth! :lol
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:lol
are you peeed bents or posting from a phone? ;D
Maybee be booth! :lol
Maybe he is blind too and using a Braille Phone.... :lol
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RISING STAR REVISITED
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 22, 2012
17. Reece Conca (Richmond)
Stiff to be so low. Underlines talent in the 24. Seen a bit of him at half-back, but would like to see more through the middle. Will be very good, but was he worth the No.6 national draft pick Richmond used? Jury out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/rising-star-award-winner-dyson-heppell-overtaken-already/story-fncqi979-1226306446365
To think a lot were questioning this kid not too long ago.. super talent.
We will be very happy Francis called his name.
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never questioned the kid, he always had my vote
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Vision of both of Conca's goals :thumbsup
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/440085/Conca%27s%20goal%20double/
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Richmond has found a footballer :thumbsup
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some of the others will take the
spotlight but this kid will be a bonnafide
star.
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some of the others will take the
spotlight but this kid will be a bonnafide
star.
Think he'll start to make a few take note shortly. The shackles are off and the confidence is growing..
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VIDEO: @JackRiewoldt08 speaks to Reece Conca in the rooms after the win ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/449008/default.aspx
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love the way reece plays
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Smooth operator
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Conca is a classy customer
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One thing that stood out last night about Reece is he rarely fumbles even in a high pressured high stakes game like Friday night and his ball use would be up with the best at Richmond.
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He can come across as a bit clumsy and undisciplined at times as shown by that free paid against him off the ball in the last quarter when we had the ball. At the same time he has grunt and I don't want to see the kid take a backward step. I love the way he plays and even though we won I still think the umpire was a class A+++ Richard Head for paying the free.
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He can come across as a bit clumsy and undisciplined at times as shown by that free paid against him off the ball in the last quarter when we had the ball. At the same time he has grunt and I don't want to see the kid take a backward step. I love the way he plays and even though we won I still think the umpire was a class A+++ Richard Head for paying the free.
That free was absolute crap as both players were holding and wrestling but I was filthy with Conca for being involved in it in the first place, given the field position and state of the game - smacked of Jacksonesque stupidity. Part of his learning curve and I would suggest he gets that learning reinforced by Dimma in no uncertain terms in the coming days!
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yeah, agree with that smokey, except that reece flung the opponent away, which is what drew the umpires attention.
Reece seems to have an appetite for the physical contest which can only be applauded. Unforntunatly the more time you spent near the line, the more chance you have of crossing it. I'm reasonably confident that reece has the smarts to learn from when he gets it wrong, though
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He can come across as a bit clumsy and undisciplined at times as shown by that free paid against him off the ball in the last quarter when we had the ball. At the same time he has grunt and I don't want to see the kid take a backward step. I love the way he plays and even though we won I still think the umpire was a class A+++ Richard Head for paying the free.
That free was absolute crap as both players were holding and wrestling but I was filthy with Conca for being involved in it in the first place, given the field position and state of the game - smacked of Jacksonesque stupidity. Part of his learning curve and I would suggest he gets that learning reinforced by Dimma in no uncertain terms in the coming days!
A few weeks ago we had two frees paid against us for holding after the player had hadballed. West Coast game I think. This was identical but the ump didn't see Saad block and hold Reece. Poor umpiring. Maybe Conca shouldn't have overdone it and give away a free but a good umpire would have spotted Saad's hold (it was about 5 meters past the man on the mark) and a different story.
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One thing that stood out last night about Reece is he rarely fumbles even in a high pressured high stakes game like Friday night and his ball use would be up with the best at Richmond.
as he matures he will be even more composed.
no concerns with this kid. :thumbsup
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One thing that stood out last night about Reece is he rarely fumbles even in a high pressured high stakes game like Friday night and his ball use would be up with the best at Richmond.
as he matures he will be even more composed.
no concerns with this kid. :thumbsup
Yep will be a 200 game player for us. :thumbsup
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He can come across as a bit clumsy and undisciplined at times as shown by that free paid against him off the ball in the last quarter when we had the ball. At the same time he has grunt and I don't want to see the kid take a backward step. I love the way he plays and even though we won I still think the umpire was a class A+++ Richard Head for paying the free.
That free was absolute crap as both players were holding and wrestling but I was filthy with Conca for being involved in it in the first place, given the field position and state of the game - smacked of Jacksonesque stupidity. Part of his learning curve and I would suggest he gets that learning reinforced by Dimma in no uncertain terms in the coming days!
stupid umpire shouldve pinged saad for holding the man. All conca was trying to do was get his arms free from saads grasp.
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knocks up getting the football
Is starting to use his express pace and elite kicking ability.
Will be a cornerstone of our midfield for the next decade.
Is tracking ahead of the curve, and has great leadership potential.
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THat umpiring decision was stuffing ridiculous, how could he pluck a St.Kilda one from that when we were the ones with the ball, it would obviously be Saad trying to interfere with Conca to cruel his run on stuffing muppet. Obviously you have to stand there and be molested like a pedo's play thing lest you give away the kick, if you play for Richmond...
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Going by yesterday it looks like Conca has been given Foley's rover role in the midfield while Axel is out. 23 possies, 8 clearances, 6 tackles and 4 inside 50s.
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Yeah loads of man love for the kid , still boggles me why he was omitted from the Crows clash the week before...
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He did a lot of good inside work in the first half, but he dropped off a bit in the second. He will be an important player for us in a few years as his body matures.
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He did a lot of good inside work in the first half, but he dropped off a bit in the second. He will be an important player for us in a few years as his body matures.
^ agree mate - first half was hopefully an example of what we can expect to see for years to come...shows plenty, composed and hard at it - given another preseason or two plus the development of his own game and those around him & I think we got ourselves a ripper
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dont worry about RC. :thumbsup
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Reece Conca will continue to be a very important player in our midfield cog for us.
Love the way this kid goes about it. :thumbsup
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Yeah loads of man love for the kid , still boggles me why he was omitted from the Crows clash the week before...
Ditto.
Batch too. Very odd
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Good game. Gary Lyon gave him best on ground because he won critical clearances when it looked as though Melbourne coming back
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Improving.
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Improving.
Yep, to much. Needs to be rested immediately otherwise there is a chance he may become a better player then Heppel. What would the Chicken littles do if theat was to happen :huh :huh
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knocks up getting the football
Is starting to use his express pace and elite kicking ability.
Will be a cornerstone of our midfield for the next decade.
Is tracking ahead of the curve, and has great leadership potential.
This guy would give great reference checks :thumbsup
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VIDEO: AFL Central's Reece Conca interview ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/472844/AFL%20Central:%20Reece%20Conca/
Edit: And here's the article as well...
Reece on the rise
richmondfc.com.au
2:46 PM Thu 26 Jul, 2012
Promising, young midfielder, Reece Conca, is feeling right at home, at Tigerland, in his second season of AFL football.
Conca, who was taken by Richmond at pick six overall in the 2010 National Draft, played 17 games in his 2011 debut season, earning a league Rising Star nomination along the way.
This year, he has taken another significant step in his football development.
He is averaging 19.3 disposals per game in his 15 appearances so far this season for Richmond, racking up 20-plus in his past four matches (against Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne, Gold Coast and North Melbourne), and a career-high 29 back in the Round 3 clash with Melbourne.
The teenager from WAFL club, Perth (he turns 20 next month) has embraced the whirlwind nature of football at the game’s highest level . . .
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/142719/default.aspx
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Fine young man.
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The Conca vs Heppell debates have thankfully gone quiet. At this stage Reece can play in close in the midfield better than Heppell.
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heppel is a receiver of swollen goods, he cant play in close.
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Heppel only looks good when the Dons are up, he looks average at the moment, has done for a while.
Conca will be the pick of the two next year IMO. Watch out for him to bulk up.
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Heppel only looks good when the Dons are up, he looks average at the moment, has done for a while.
Conca will be the pick of the two next year IMO. Watch out for him to bulk up.
He's already the pick of the 2.
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Nope disagree heppel is a star
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Nope disagree heppel is a star
:gobdrop Stars play well when the chips are down. He was poo last night.
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lol at this constant comparing of performances of 2nd yr players.
just about every mid taken up to pick 40 odd in 2010 has shown something to suggest they will be a good player.
when they are 22 23 and fully developed perhaps then we can judge just who is the better player.
me i wanted heppell and caddy in front of conca. heppell imo has more to work with and has a bigger upside imo. some areas heppell has it all over conca and in some conca has it over heppell.
to me the most obvious one is just how good heppell is in traffic. his awareness of whats around him is first rate and this awareness buys him time to use it well.
all i hear is conca can do this and heppell cant do that on here and the opposite from essendon supporters and like little kids most of us just have to answer back.
they both have strengths and weaknesses you should tally both up if you are going to compare. two yrs in performance is a secondary thing atm. imo its the upside that should be looked at when asking who is going to be better. they both need to improve a fair bit in areas of their games.
personally i dont care who ends up better. just as long as conca ends up being a good pick and the chasm between the two is not great as long as we have not wasted another top ten pick. my opinion on who has more upside is i lean towards heppell.
but does it really matter if they both end up being good players. i wonder why it is nobody ever asks why we took deledio instead of franklin maybe because they are both very good and theres no huge chasm between performances now they have matured.
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Nope disagree heppel is a star
Star in the homoerotic p0rn business
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Hepple is poo under pressure and is soft as a straight guys dick in a communal prison shower.
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Nope disagree heppel is a star
(http://www.gan4hire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/i-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-11372-2560x16001.jpg)
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Hepple is poo under pressure and is soft as a straight guys dick in a communal prison shower.
buffalo girl personified.
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Hepple is poo under pressure and is soft as a straight guys dick in a communal prison shower.
:lol
He's a seagull that only finds himself under pressure when someone flicks a chip into a pack.
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Hepple is poo under pressure and is soft as a straight guys dick in a communal prison shower.
:lol
He's a seagull that only finds himself under pressure when someone flicks a chip into a pack.
:lol :lol that's gold.....
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may l never ever see this player if l must use the word (player) ever again
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Top 10 pick. Oh dear :help
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
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Can't kick...delist.
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Can't kick...delist.
Yep, you said it :banghead let's all bum off jster
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
Best game for the Club so far :thumbsup.
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conca will be elite
all you bagging him have no f idea
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
Best game for the Club so far :thumbsup.
loks very rushed to me with ball in hand panics a bit imo with experience i hope this area improves i think with some needed size on his frame it will improve a bit anyway.
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Can't kick...delist.
Yep, you said it :banghead let's all bum off jster
lol....I was taking the pee.....Concs is gold, will be a great player down the track ;)
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I have a lot of hope with Reece Lightning
He will be better than the receiver Heppell Houlli the second
He's got build his body and tank up and he will be hard to stop
Has a lot of grunt in him
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2nd year player and some are bagging the poor
kid.
number 30 will only get better.
:thumbsup
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may l never ever see this player if l must use the word (player) ever again
:lol total over reaction but typical :rollin
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VIDEO: Reece Conca interviewed after the win last night ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/476123/default.aspx
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
Best game for the Club so far :thumbsup.
loks very rushed to me with ball in hand panics a bit imo with experience i hope this area improves i think with some needed size on his frame it will improve a bit anyway.
Granted 72% disposal efficiency is a par-to-above par score but I thought Reece's distribution of the footy was good last night. 29 possies (12 contested), 5 tackles, 6 clearances, 5 inside 50s and 2 goal assists is a decent night's work.
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Is indeed proving to be a very canny selection, well done FJ....again :shh
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Can't kick...delist.
Yep, you said it :banghead let's all bum off jster
lol....I was taking the pee.....Concs is gold, will be a great player down the track ;)
:rollin was being similarly ironic :thumbsup
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
Best game for the Club so far :thumbsup.
loks very rushed to me with ball in hand panics a bit imo with experience i hope this area improves i think with some needed size on his frame it will improve a bit anyway.
Granted 72% disposal efficiency is a par-to-above par score but I thought Reece's distribution of the footy was good last night. 29 possies (12 contested), 5 tackles, 6 clearances, 5 inside 50s and 2 goal assists is a decent night's work.
His disposal let him down a couple of times and that might be the only reason he doesn't get the 3 votes for Charlie.
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Deledio might be the other reason
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Played really well tonight worked really hard. :thumbsup
Best game for the Club so far :thumbsup.
loks very rushed to me with ball in hand panics a bit imo with experience i hope this area improves i think with some needed size on his frame it will improve a bit anyway.
Granted 72% disposal efficiency is a par-to-above par score but I thought Reece's distribution of the footy was good last night. 29 possies (12 contested), 5 tackles, 6 clearances, 5 inside 50s and 2 goal assists is a decent night's work.
agree he had a good game should have said that in my post.
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Love the way the kid goes about his footy.
Under the radar at pick 6.
Will be a 200 gamer for the club. :thumbsup
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Good draft pick
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Deledio might be the other reason
Touche :thumbsup
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Reece turns 20 today :birthday
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lets hope he has a great day against the dogs
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Broken toe last weekend. Out for the season. :(
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Broken toe last weekend. Out for the season. :(
Bummer
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Reece out for the year injured...broken toe
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Reece out for the year injured...broken toe
Would you like to add Sauce with that pie....???
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Reece out for the year injured...broken toe
Would you like to add Sauce with that pie....???
Matt Hornsby said so on my RFC Official app (using an android phone). Hope that sauce is ok?
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Reece out for the year injured...broken toe
Would you like to add Sauce with that pie....???
Matt Hornsby said so on my RFC Official app (using an android phone). Hope that sauce is ok?
I would prefer a little more tomato but apart from that its fine :thumbsup
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Dissapointing if true :(
Kid will be a gun :thumbsup
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Reece out for the year injured...broken toe
Would you like to add Sauce with that pie....???
Matt Hornsby said so on my RFC Official app (using an android phone). Hope that sauce is ok?
Certainly is on the app and he also mentions Grimes will probably be put in cotton wool until next year but Batch trained well and is a chance for Sat
:lol
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Reece out for the year with a broken toe
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From the AFL Web-site:
Conca conks out
3:22 PM Wed 15 Aug, 2012
Reece Conca will miss the rest of the season after suffering a fractured toe
Conca was unable to remember injuring the toe during Sunday's 72-point victory over the Western Bulldogs, but he reported to the club sore on Monday.
Elite performance manager Matt Hornsby told the Richmond website scans showed that Conca had a small fracture in his toe.
"It's a relatively short-term problem, but with three games go to it means he won't play again this season," Hornsby said.
"He'll be ready for a full pre-season in season 2013."
Hornsby said Jake Batchelor had trained well this week and was a chance to return from his knee injury if he got through training on Thursday.
He said Dylan Grimes was unlikely to return from his hamstring injury and play again this season.
"We'll try to make sure he builds durability for a long career," Hornsby said.
Conca played 18 games this season while Grimes played nine, failing to reappear after reinjuring his hamstring in round 14. Batchelor has played 12 games.
Exclusive to AFL BigPond Network
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/144698/default.aspx
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Tiger Reece Conca sidelined for the season with a broken toe
Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
August 15, 2012 2:12PM
HE doesn't remember it happening, but Reece Conca fractured his toe on Sunday in a blow that will keep the Tiger midfielder sidelined for the rest of the season.
Conca reported foot soreness to Richmond medicos yesterday morning and a scan showed a fracture, but the Tigers were confident the injury would not hinder his 2013 pre-season.
"Scans showed he’s got a small fracture in his toe, so that means he won’t play again this season,’’ Richmond elite performance manager Matthew Hornsby told the club website.
"He’ll start his rehab straight away, it’s only relatively a short-term problem, but with three games to go it means he won’t play again."
Hornsby said Conca had no soreness entering the match, meaning the incident would have occurred in the 70-point win against the Western Bulldogs, despite the first-round pick unsure when it happened.
Live HQ: Relive Richmond's huge win against the Dogs
Conca joins Dylan Grimes (hamstring), Nathan Foley (achilles) and Ty Vickery (shoulder) as Tigers out of action until 2013.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/tiger-reece-conca-sidelined-for-the-season-with-a-broken-toe/story-e6frf9jf-1226450973600
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Broken toe guys
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he broke his toe
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Who?
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him
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oh
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Right
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Just heard in a meeting Reece has a broken toe :thumbsup
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Can anyone confirm which toe
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Did anyone see him come back on?
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Did anyone see him come back on?
I thinking saw him come back on.
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Reece out for the year with a broken toe
;D
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
Which foot :whistle
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Bad news. Out for the year but will be right for preseason training
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
Which foot :whistle
The one on his leg.
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
Which foot :whistle
The one on his leg.
Which leg?
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stubbed. :thumbsup
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Can tell you all he's out bc hes not good enough :thumbsup
club doesnt want to admit to everyone they got this pick wrong :thumbsup
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
Which foot :whistle
The one on his leg.
Which leg?
He has a toe on his leg? :-\
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Can anyone confirm which toe
The one on his foot.
Which foot :whistle
The one on his leg.
Which leg?
The one that hangs from his hip.
Thinking about it, that has now increased the possible answers to 3.
;D
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not really. Robbie is probably the only bloke with a foot on his third leg......
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Been a really steep learning curve for Reece after stepping into Foley's shoes. His progression has been fast tracked and he will have learned plenty over the past 6-7 weeks. Bring on 2013..
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Shame for the kid.
He'll be fine. Improve his disposal and the kid will be better.
Will play 200 games plus for us.
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Shame for the kid.
He'll be fine. Improve his disposal and the kid will be better.
Will play 200 games plus for us.
His previous few games shows his a under developed footballer who needs to lean more about the game & get some skills. kicking would be the 1st thing to learn
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:lol
killed brisbane
kid can play
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When he gets over his broken finger he will be a star. Him and Griffin.
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When he gets over his broken finger he will be a star. Him and Griffin.
*Griffiths
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* :huh3
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Missed him today, hanlon didnt contribute to same level :o
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Missed him today, hanlon didnt contribute to same level :o
Not the same type of player
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finally watch a game?
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:yep :bluesbros
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Conca on course
By Jennifer Phelan 8:51am AEDT Friday, February 8, 2013
RICHMOND young gun Reece Conca is on track to play in the NAB Cup after overcoming complications with the foot stress fracture that ended his 2012 season early.
Conca, 20, missed the final three games of last year after fracturing the third metatarsal in his right foot in round 20 against the Western Bulldogs.
After initially thinking it was a relatively short-term problem, the injury failed to heal properly and he developed Achilles soreness.
While he avoided surgery, his off-season was disrupted when he was forced to wear moon boot for 10 weeks.
"It was just a tricky one. [Recovery] can sort of vary – it can be four to six weeks, eight to 10 … it set my off-season back a bit," Conca told AFL.com.au this week, during the Tigers' community camp in Alice Springs.
It also ruined the plans he had to go home to Perth and visit Bali, thanks to the bulky plastic boot.
Conca is no stranger to disrupted pre-seasons.
During his first summer with the club at the end of 2010, he was restricted until Christmas by complications with his left fibula, which he broke in the season before he was drafted.
Then in 2011, it was groin soreness and a successful hip scope that kept him from the track.
"I've been a little bit unlucky. I've missed all my pre-seasons so far," he said.
"It's tough to build that fitness and strength without them.
"I've sort of tracked OK after that. They look after us really well in rehab so it hasn't set me back too much in terms of the actual season but I need to try and get a full pre-season over the next couple of years, more for the longevity of my career than anything."
Conca started running in November and was back in the main group before Christmas.
With a few weeks of training under his belt, he was poised to get some game time in Friday night's clash against the Indigenous All Stars at Traeger Park in Alice Springs.
All going well, Conca plans to play in the NAB Cup, with a view to the Tigers' round one clash with Carlton on March 28 at the MCG.
Conca has been training with the midfielders this pre-season and has plans to play a more consistent role on the inside.
It's where he wants to be after starting his career at Richmond in the back pocket before working his way into the midfield and spending time on the wing.
"I think [inside] suits me more, so I really enjoyed that and I'm aiming for another big year," he said.
"I'll play whatever role the coaches want from me but hopefully that's more inside mid and I'd like to maybe even push forward more and kick some goals, just to add that side to my game."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-08/conca-on-course (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-08/conca-on-course)
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unlucky red wog is unlucky
here i was thinking they were like italian leprechauns
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lurk more
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What's the matter OE, didn't like my version?
:P
Edit: Sorry smokey. Posted it without looking :P. I've removed the one I put up.
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Reece was the most positive sign for mine from tonight's game. He'll fit nicely into our midfeld rotation when Cotch, Lids and co. are back in the side.
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Looked clean and composed tonight. Encouraging.
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;D
What's the matter OE, didn't like my version?
:P
Edit: So smokey. Posted it without looking :P. I've removed the one I put up.
;D
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Looked clean and composed tonight. Encouraging.
Agree Willy, especially coming off an interrupted pre-season. Conca and Martin stood out for mine.
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Conca on course
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Friday, February 8, 2013
RICHMOND young gun Reece Conca is on track to play in the NAB Cup after overcoming complications with the foot stress fracture that ended his 2012 season early.
Conca, 20, missed the final three games of last year after fracturing the third metatarsal in his right foot in round 20 against the Western Bulldogs.
After initially thinking it was a relatively short-term problem, the injury failed to heal properly and he developed Achilles soreness.
While he avoided surgery, his off-season was disrupted when he was forced to wear moon boot for 10 weeks.
"It was just a tricky one. [Recovery] can sort of vary – it can be four to six weeks, eight to 10 … it set my off-season back a bit," Conca told AFL.com.au this week, during the Tigers' community camp in Alice Springs.
It also ruined the plans he had to go home to Perth and visit Bali, thanks to the bulky plastic boot.
Conca is no stranger to disrupted pre-seasons.
During his first summer with the club at the end of 2010, he was restricted until Christmas by complications with his left fibula, which he broke in the season before he was drafted.
Then in 2011, it was groin soreness and a successful hip scope that kept him from the track.
"I've been a little bit unlucky. I've missed all my pre-seasons so far," he said.
"It's tough to build that fitness and strength without them.
"I've sort of tracked OK after that. They look after us really well in rehab so it hasn't set me back too much in terms of the actual season but I need to try and get a full pre-season over the next couple of years, more for the longevity of my career than anything."
Conca started running in November and was back in the main group before Christmas.
With a few weeks of training under his belt, he was poised to get some game time in Friday night's clash against the Indigenous All Stars at Traeger Park in Alice Springs.
All going well, Conca plans to play in the NAB Cup, with a view to the Tigers' round one clash with Carlton on March 28 at the MCG.
Conca has been training with the midfielders this pre-season and has plans to play a more consistent role on the inside.
It's where he wants to be after starting his career at Richmond in the back pocket before working his way into the midfield and spending time on the wing.
"I think [inside] suits me more, so I really enjoyed that and I'm aiming for another big year," he said.
"I'll play whatever role the coaches want from me but hopefully that's more inside mid and I'd like to maybe even push forward more and kick some goals, just to add that side to my game."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-08/conca-on-course
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VIDEO: Conca press conference
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-25/conca-press-conference
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This guy will emerge as a genuine footballer this year. Showed great signs last year and watching him friday night he has improved. He will play midfield and will be a fantastic contributor to the team. Will be top 10 in the B & F. A break out year!! :gotigers
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That disciplined kick of his in the F50, mmmmm :clapping
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Reckon his skills have looked very sharp so far this summer. This has been my biggest concern with Reece. Does everything else well.
Big year ahead.
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We don't recruit poor uses of the ball any longer. Reece's poor desposal at times was due to where he played at the pressure he was played under. I think he has now learned to ignore the implied and physical pressure more.
I agree though, big year ahead :pray
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yep, agree with that stripes.
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We don't recruit poor uses of the ball any longer.
is that right ;D I assume you're excluding trades/free agency/PSD picks? And we really would have NFI how some of our new picks kick in all honesty.
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Time will tell coach :shh
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Gun
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Gun
Abso-effin-lutely, and how the hell Nick Bowen in his AFL summary didn't have him in the best speaks volumes for Nick's ability to watch and report on a game of football!
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no different to many forum experts
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The way Conc's attacked the ball tonight was fantastic. Was in everything. He will only get better. Took a huge step forward tonight.
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class.
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Showed why he's so highly regarded by us. Did more tonight than Heppell has ever done impact wise.
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Best game he has played IMHO
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I dips me lid to him..well played Reece,and was preapred to mix it when the hard stuff was required
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Showed why he's so highly regarded by us. Did more tonight than Heppell has ever done impact wise.
:yep
And will also be a great goal kicking mid, had a few snaps at the sticks. Just needs to convert more but still very pleased with his efforts :thumbsup
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Showed why he's so highly regarded by us. Did more tonight than Heppell has ever done impact wise.
give the man a cigar
:thumbsup
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Can't wait to watch the replay on telly. Thought his early turnovers were rubbish but really got into the thick of it later.
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for a small guy his jumping to punch against large people in contests is an attribute.
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gun
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Was the biggest difference to our side on the night. We expect huge outputs from Jack, Cotch Lids etc but with Conca now stepping up, our midfield depth is getting ominous :thumbsup
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Showed why he's so highly regarded by us. Did more tonight than Heppell has ever done impact wise.
Heppell who? ;D
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Outstanding game. Showed real poise
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Best game he has played IMHO
I'm right with you on that Billy, played well all night and that blistering kick into the forward line was a delight.
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Showed why he's so highly regarded by us. Did more tonight than Heppell has ever done impact wise.
Heppell who? ;D
The back pocket in my Supercoach team of champions. Just back off there big fella!! :whistle
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Great game, really needs to back it up now!
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Conca had 14 scoring involvements last night according to 3aw :o.
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Conca had 14 scoring involvements last night according to 3aw :o.
woah :shh
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Has a good swerve and step on him
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Tiger depth has confident Conca purring
By Mitch Cleary
afl.com.au
11:45pm AEST Tuesday, April 9, 2013
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca says he played the best game of his fledging career on Friday night, citing the club’s new found depth for greater confidence in his game.
Conca collected 25 disposals and was one of the Tigers’ prominent contributors in the win over St Kilda.
The sixth pick in the 2010 national draft, Conca said he was enjoying his football more as the Tigers moved to 2-0.
“The pick wasn’t so much the pressure. I think early on in my career, we weren’t going so well, we didn’t have that great of depth,” he said.
“It was more the pressure of having to perform and try and help the team win games so early in my career.
“Especially this pre-season and the last two games, with the depth we’ve got, I think I’ve become a bit more relaxed and confident in my ability and I’ve put out a couple of performances.
“Watching the tape and talking to the coaches, it was my probably my best game of my AFL career at the moment.”
Conca said he never felt the Saints had the better of the Tigers on Friday night, stemming from an improved training performance at Punt Road.
“It’s just the confidence from winning close games. We’re training better than ever. Losing close games (last year) was heart-wrenching,” he said.
“At no stage did I ever feel we were going to lose that game against St Kilda.
“The depth has been fantastic. It just puts pressure on the guys playing to perform well. We’ve got guys at Coburg that could quite easily fill the spots.”
Richmond can extend its winning run to 3-0 on Sunday against the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-09/tiger-depth-has-confident-conca-purring
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Inside Football article on Reece Conca from last week.
Tigers loom large with Conca a real standout
By Russell Holmesby
INSIDE FOOTBALL
Wednesday April 10, 2013
With two wins out of two, the Tigers are walking tall.
And in Reece Conca's case that is literally true as the 20-year-old has physically grown since last season.
When it was suggested to him after last Friday night's Richmond victory that he is looking fitter and leaner than in the past, he said: "I've actually put on a couple of kilos. 1 think I've actually grown a centimeter or two. I've also got stronger, too"
Coach Damien Hardwick described Conca's game on Friday as the best he has played for the club and a couple of special efforts in the last quarter were crucial to the team's eventual success.
His precision pass set up the goal that sealed the win and a few minutes earlier he had put his body on the line in a key contest that thwarted an attacking thrust by St Kilda.
The expectations of a club trying desperately to rise up the ladder are always magnified, and as selection No. 6 in the 2010 draft, Conca has been in that spotlight.
His first year ticked all the boxes with 17 games and a Rising Star nomination.
And there was nothing wrong .with his output last year for the Tigers, but the club's high hopes — born out of years of disappointment — led some fans to wonder whether he was advancing quickly enough.
There is always more of a story below the surface and his 2012 campaign ended him spending the last three weeks on the sidelines with a toe injury.
Earlier, he had lost his senior place for two weeks in mid-season.
The subsequent off-season wasn't without its hiccups, but in the end it provided a good launching pad.
"I had a few complications with a stress fracture of my foot with through the off-season," Conca said:
"I missed the first part of the pre-season, but came back strong and trained really hard to get my fitness up.
"My fitness is better than ever and I am able to run out games a lot better and I think that's helped with my footy'
A lot of his early football at AFL level was played at half back, but in the two games this year there has been a distinctly attacking bent to his football.
"I've been pushing forward a bit more and playing a bit more half forward and in the mid-field and opened up my game a bit more," Conca said.
"The offensive side of my game is something I wanted to work on, trying to bob up and kick a few more goals, which I've done in the past two weeks"
Two victories in the opening two weeks has eluded Richmond since 1997.
"It builds our confidence off the back of those wins. This time last year we lost a couple of close ones and it sort of hits you pretty hard early in the year," Conca said,
"But it's only Round 2. We can work on a few things that let us down and ride that confidence through to the end of the year"
In a many respects Conca's growth and progress as a footballer mirrors that of the club,
"I've spoken to Damien and the coaches and this is a big year for me and the team to build on the past couple of years," he said.
"We've worked really hard on the things we have to work on."
Away from the football field, Conca is studying psychology at university.
A cynic would suggest that Richmond would have provided fertile ground for research in recent years.
"It's one unit per semester," he said, "I enjoy doing some study and I've done about six or seven units so far!'
For now it's all about focusing on the match against the Western Bulldogs this weekend.
"It's good for our recovery that we've got an eight or nine-day recovery now" Conca said.
"We've got to be really wary of them (the Bulldogs) because they are a strong contested footy side and we'll build towards Sunday!'
The Tigers go into the game walking taller than they have for a long time.
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As mentioned in the injury thread, Conca will the next 4-6 weeks with a stress reaction in his foot :(.
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As mentioned in the injury thread, Conca will the next 4-6 weeks with a stress reaction in his foot :(.
Here's the article from the RFC website:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-24/conca-grounded-by-foot-injury.workstation
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As mentioned in the injury thread, Conca will the next 4-6 weeks with a stress reaction in his foot :(.
As mentioned in the injury thread, Conca will the next 4-6 weeks with a stress reaction in his foot :(.
Here's the article from the RFC website:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-24/conca-grounded-by-foot-injury.workstation
Always love it when you quote yourself OE :thumbsup
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Disappointing as Conca was just finding his feet!
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FFS, unreal!!! Well here is our depth test!!
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AAAAAAARRRRRRHHHHHHH >:(
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This will really hurt our midfield rotations until Foley is ready. :'(
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Starting to have memories of the Richo & Brown days rarely on the park at the same time...
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Disappointing as Conca was just finding his feet!
No pun intended I hope ;D
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How the bleedin heck does one get stress farcatures in feet, surely they aren't running on pavement ...a decent pair of orthotics would prevent this ::)
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How the bleedin heck does one get stress farcatures in feet, surely they aren't running on pavement ...a decent pair of orthotics would prevent this ::)
He hasn't got a stress fracture!
He has a stressed area, "hotspot", there isn't bone crack or break. Just any area if not treated now will become a fracture
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FFS, unreal!!! Well here is our depth test!!
what 4 odd injuries how will we react when we cop 10, now that will be a true depth test. simply put we just dont have enough decent mids atm the sooner we do something about it the better.
still think heppell was the way to go by the way.awareness and the ability to buy time is priceless.
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FFS, unreal!!! Well here is our depth test!!
what 4 odd injuries how will we react when we cop 10, now that will be a true depth test. simply put we just dont have enough decent mids atm the sooner we do something about it the better.
still think heppell was the way to go by the way.awareness and the ability to buy time is priceless.
If Heppell was a tiger you'd be calling him a soft outside downhill skier. And i liked Heppell as a junior
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How the bleedin heck does one get stress farcatures in feet, surely they aren't running on pavement ...a decent pair of orthotics would prevent this ::)
He's been over working.. Can also be caused with the change to wearing new boots as well
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That's really bad luck for Reece. Just as he looked like he was getting some fitness up. Has had probs before with his foot. Hope it's not related.
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Helbig should get his chance now.
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
:clapping Correct. :thumbsup
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shame one of my fav players, Francis wont be happy. :thumbsup
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
Is a navicular stress fracture!!! poor bugger
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
Is a navicular stress fracture!!! poor bugger
Whered you hear that?
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
Is a navicular stress fracture!!! poor bugger
Where is that written? Because if it is and it's the same as his previous foot injuries then we'll be lucky to ever see a full season out of him.
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As long as we never have to hear "navicular" then all good.
Is a navicular stress fracture!!! poor bugger
Whered you hear that?
Straight off the bat on the footy show. Was the 1st thing that Lyon said. "in tragic news Conca has a stess fracture of the navicular bone and will be listed as 'indefinite'
im guessing PArrot will be all over it.
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Footy show had a quick mention that Matty Egan never returned after copping a stress fracture like Conca.
Yeahright don't believe anything the RFC tell you, if they say its a crack prepare for a stress fracture.
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Then Bartel said he played last year with it.. lol
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Footy show had a quick mention that Matty Egan never returned after copping a stress fracture like Conca.
Yeahright don't believe anything the RFC tell you, if they say its a crack prepare for a stress fracture.
Yeah I know, but the Footy Show isn't what i'd call a valuable source... We'll know in a years time when they forget what lie they told us and tell us the truth
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Wow that really is terrible news if it is a navicular stress fracture. Especially since the club told us they found out before it got too bad...
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If the source is the footy show and the bin rat, I'd take it with a grain of salt on a soggy chip
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There's been plenty of successful treatments, richo, Hird and Mitch Clark last year.... ::)
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If its the navicular its season over and hopefully not career over... :pray
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If its the navicular its season over and hopefully not career over... :pray
Only season if they decide to operate. If it's only a hot spot then they can moon boot him but there is always a chance it will go again. It may take more than a month since there is very little blood supply (inb4 all the geniuses pipe in with "hurrdurr the club said 4-6 weeks here we go again"). But due to the biomechanics involved, once you crack it once (or elite athletes) then you're always a massive chance to do it again whether it has been operated on or not.
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
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And maybe thats why they said its a 'reaction' he's jarred up the old injury.
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If its the navicular its season over and hopefully not career over... :pray
Only season if they decide to operate. If it's only a hot spot then they can moon boot him but there is always a chance it will go again. It may take more than a month since there is very little blood supply (inb4 all the geniuses pipe in with "hurrdurr the club said 4-6 weeks here we go again). But due to the biomechanics involved, once you crack it once (or elite athletes) then you're always a massive chance to do it again whether it has been operated on or not.
Yep you just wouldnt take the risk. If it flares up again when he hits the track in a few weeks you'd have to do the right thing by him and put him out to pasture for the year you would think. Anyhow, when I saw you mention it earlier this thread I immediately thought Egan...
He's had his fair share of ankle/foot problems. Incidentally does anyone know if this is the same foot as the one that gave him complications last season and during preseason?
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If the source is the footy show and the bin rat, I'd take it with a grain of salt on a soggy chip
Exactly did Damo say, "make no mistake Garry this is career threatening". The type of knee jerk reaction he always makes to give him a sense of seriousness and credibility to people who build their houses on sand and who more often that not changes his story numerous times.
Damo has been diagnosed as having GMS syndrome or to the footy fraternity Greg Miller Syndrome.
Miller from 1993 onwards was living on his luck in recruiting Wayne Carey and Damo will always be spruiked by his Channel 9 Triple MMM cohorts as having uncovered the Essendon scandal many years from now as he interviews players who exist controversially both on and off the field to make him seem like a serious mover and shaker whilst players act aloof and are happy to make a few easy gorillas for 10 minutes of their time.
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
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If its the navicular its season over and hopefully not career over... :pray
Only season if they decide to operate. If it's only a hot spot then they can moon boot him but there is always a chance it will go again. It may take more than a month since there is very little blood supply (inb4 all the geniuses pipe in with "hurrdurr the club said 4-6 weeks here we go again). But due to the biomechanics involved, once you crack it once (or elite athletes) then you're always a massive chance to do it again whether it has been operated on or not.
Yep you just wouldnt take the risk. If it flares up again when he hits the track in a few weeks you'd have to do the right thing by him and put him out to pasture for the year you would think. Anyhow, when I saw you mention it earlier this thread I immediately thought Egan...
He's had his fair share of ankle/foot problems. Incidentally does anyone know if this is the same foot as the one that gave him complications last season and during preseason?
Not sure regarding which foot, but about the injury, if it's treated via conservative means (moonboot) then it can take up to 4 months to heal post treatment. It can't always be detected via x-rays and usually takes a pretty good doctor to detect early. So kudos to our medicos if they've diagnosed it before it actually cracks.
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
dwaino knows his poo when it comes to feet. Has a fetish and all. :shh
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
dwaino knows his poo when it comes to feet. Has a fetish and all. :shh
:lol
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Are u a nurse dwaino ::)
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
nope :outtahere
:lol
Have a lot of friends and family in everything from nurses, physios, radiologists, AFL and VFL (where they get supported returns from injuries), dieticians, and other stuff and I've just caught on how the body works and what's the deal with certain injuries. I play local footy and have copped my own fair share of injuries so some of it is from experience. Currently trying to get over an upper hamstring tear... physio said 4-6 weeks and it's turning into two months. No bloody idea wish they were upfront :banghead :banghead ::)
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
nope :outtahere
:lol
Have a lot of friends and family in everything from nurses, physios, radiologists, AFL and VFL (where they get supported returns from injuries), dieticians, and other stuff and I've just caught on how the body works and what's the deal with certain injuries. I play local footy and have copped my own fair share of injuries so some of it is from experience. Currently trying to get over an upper hamstring tear... physio said 4-6 weeks and it's turning into two months. No bloody idea wish they were upfront :banghead :banghead ::)
older you are the longer it takes to heal. Shouldn't lie about ur on ur application form to the physio :lol
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
nope :outtahere
:lol
Have a lot of friends and family in everything from nurses, physios, radiologists, AFL and VFL (where they get supported returns from injuries), dieticians, and other stuff and I've just caught on how the body works and what's the deal with certain injuries. I play local footy and have copped my own fair share of injuries so some of it is from experience. Currently trying to get over an upper hamstring tear... physio said 4-6 weeks and it's turning into two months. No bloody idea wish they were upfront :banghead :banghead ::)
older you are the longer it takes to heal. Shouldn't lie about ur on ur application form to the physio :lol
I am 12 and what is this >:(
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Conca is expected to be sidelined for the next 3-5 weeks with a stress reaction in his right foot.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-29/king-set-for-return)
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
nope :outtahere
:lol
Have a lot of friends and family in everything from nurses, physios, radiologists, AFL and VFL (where they get supported returns from injuries), dieticians, and other stuff and I've just caught on how the body works and what's the deal with certain injuries. I play local footy and have copped my own fair share of injuries so some of it is from experience. Currently trying to get over an upper hamstring tear... physio said 4-6 weeks and it's turning into two months. No bloody idea wish they were upfront :banghead :banghead ::)
Fairo :thumbsup
Goodluck with the hammy, be patient. I wasn't about 5 years ago now and it just hasn't been the same
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Conca is expected to be sidelined for the next 3-5 weeks with a stress reaction in his right foot.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-29/king-set-for-return)
Very bad news. Hope has a speedy recovery.
Edited to correct quote
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For memory one Matthew Richardson came back a navicular break quite well ;D
It entirely depends on the type, if there is dislocation, where is the fracture to the navicular body, lateral, forefoot etc.
And let's not forget genetics, some just recover well and some don't.
Dwaino do you have any professional knowledge on this or just took personal interest and did your research? Just curious as you seem to have a fair bit of info
nope :outtahere
:lol
Have a lot of friends and family in everything from nurses, physios, radiologists, AFL and VFL (where they get supported returns from injuries), dieticians, and other stuff and I've just caught on how the body works and what's the deal with certain injuries. I play local footy and have copped my own fair share of injuries so some of it is from experience. Currently trying to get over an upper hamstring tear... physio said 4-6 weeks and it's turning into two months. No bloody idea wish they were upfront :banghead :banghead ::)
older you are the longer it takes to heal. Shouldn't lie about ur on ur application form to the physio :lol
I am 12 and what is this >:(
Keep telling yourself that. :lol
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Conca confident about return
By richmondfc.com.au
3:51pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
“It sort of came out of nowhere,” Reece said.
“I just went out to kick a set shot before training on Tuesday, didn’t really feel quite right, so came in, saw the medical staff, and got a precautionary scan. It showed a bit of a hot spot in the fourth metatarsal.
“It’s a similar injury to what I had last year, but we’ve got it really early, which is great.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-30/conca-confident-about-return
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Conca confident about return
By richmondfc.com.au
3:51pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
“It sort of came out of nowhere,” Reece said.
“I just went out to kick a set shot before training on Tuesday, didn’t really feel quite right, so came in, saw the medical staff, and got a precautionary scan. It showed a bit of a hot spot in the fourth metatarsal.
“It’s a similar injury to what I had last year, but we’ve got it really early, which is great.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-30/conca-confident-about-return
That's the best news. Will wear a moon boot for a bit and then jump into Foley's crusty harness on the AlterG.
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Yep, take it easy and shouldn't be any complications (touch wood)
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Conca confident about return
By richmondfc.com.au
3:51pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
“It sort of came out of nowhere,” Reece said.
“I just went out to kick a set shot before training on Tuesday, didn’t really feel quite right, so came in, saw the medical staff, and got a precautionary scan. It showed a bit of a hot spot in the fourth metatarsal.
“It’s a similar injury to what I had last year, but we’ve got it really early, which is great.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-30/conca-confident-about-return
That's the best news. Will wear a moon boot for a bit and then jump into Foley's crusty harness on the AlterG.
exactly.....stuff the footy show for making up the rumour that it was a fracture of the navicular....
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Conca confident about return
By richmondfc.com.au
3:51pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
“It sort of came out of nowhere,” Reece said.
“I just went out to kick a set shot before training on Tuesday, didn’t really feel quite right, so came in, saw the medical staff, and got a precautionary scan. It showed a bit of a hot spot in the fourth metatarsal.
“It’s a similar injury to what I had last year, but we’ve got it really early, which is great.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-30/conca-confident-about-return
That's the best news. Will wear a moon boot for a bit and then jump into Foley's crusty harness on the AlterG.
exactly.....stuff the footy show for making up the rumour that it was a fracture of the navicular....
The problem is you're comparing the footy shows vs the RFC's word against each other and when it comes to injuries its a dead heat
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Conca confident about return
By richmondfc.com.au
3:51pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
“It sort of came out of nowhere,” Reece said.
“I just went out to kick a set shot before training on Tuesday, didn’t really feel quite right, so came in, saw the medical staff, and got a precautionary scan. It showed a bit of a hot spot in the fourth metatarsal.
“It’s a similar injury to what I had last year, but we’ve got it really early, which is great.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-30/conca-confident-about-return
That's the best news. Will wear a moon boot for a bit and then jump into Foley's crusty harness on the AlterG.
exactly.....stuff the footy show for making up the rumour that it was a fracture of the navicular....
The problem is you're comparing the footy shows vs the RFC's word against each other and when it comes to injuries its a dead heat
:whistle :clapping
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
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I have a feeling it may take longer than
anticipated.
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
They are required to make some sort of list available by the AFL. Just about every club fibs about their injuries. Hardly an issue IMO, unless you barrack for the Tiges, then everything from the grass patterns on PRO, Dean Polo's haircut, what colour highlighter Dimma has on his desk, to who we should have drafted at pick 169 in 2003 is an issue.
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
They are required to make some sort of list available by the AFL. Just about every club fibs about their injuries. Hardly an issue IMO, unless you barrack for the Tiges, then everything from the grass patterns on PRO, Dean Polo's haircut, what colour highlighter Dimma has on his desk, to who we should have drafted at pick 169 in 2003 is an issue.
Dean who?
:lol
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
They are required to make some sort of list available by the AFL. Just about every club fibs about their injuries. Hardly an issue IMO, unless you barrack for the Tiges, then everything from the grass patterns on PRO, Dean Polo's haircut, what colour highlighter Dimma has on his desk, to who we should have drafted at pick 169 in 2003 is an issue.
I just don't see why they can't say it?
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
They are required to make some sort of list available by the AFL. Just about every club fibs about their injuries. Hardly an issue IMO, unless you barrack for the Tiges, then everything from the grass patterns on PRO, Dean Polo's haircut, what colour highlighter Dimma has on his desk, to who we should have drafted at pick 169 in 2003 is an issue.
I just don't see why they can't say it?
Can't say what?
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The club should keep as much injury info in-house as much as possible
Don't know why people expect complete transparency
I sort of agree, but keep it one way or the other. I'd prefer to not know anything than to be fed lies
They are required to make some sort of list available by the AFL. Just about every club fibs about their injuries. Hardly an issue IMO, unless you barrack for the Tiges, then everything from the grass patterns on PRO, Dean Polo's haircut, what colour highlighter Dimma has on his desk, to who we should have drafted at pick 169 in 2003 is an issue.
I just don't see why they can't say it?
Can't say what?
:lol
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Don't know if I missed the joke but I can't see why they don't say the truth
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Don't know if I missed the joke but I can't see why they don't say the truth
I missed the joke too.
Let's say for arguments sake that Cotch will miss this week with injury (touch massive wood) and the club are aware straight after the Freo game that he'll miss. Do you come out on mon/tues and list him injured so the fans know the score or do you let your opponent spend the week planning for him as usual? Why give your opponent any edge/inside info whatsoever, no matter how small?
Or are you going on about the club listing injuries as 6-8 weeks instead of 6 or 8 or 7? I think that is just because injuries are variable in so many ways, definitive time frames are hard to get accurate.
Seriously, WGAF
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I thought gerks was taking the pee with that question.
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Don't know if I missed the joke but I can't see why they don't say the truth
I missed the joke too.
Let's say for arguments sake that Cotch will miss this week with injury (touch massive wood) and the club are aware straight after the Freo game that he'll miss. Do you come out on mon/tues and list him injured so the fans know the score or do you let your opponent spend the week planning for him as usual? Why give your opponent any edge/inside info whatsoever, no matter how small?
Or are you going on about the club listing injuries as 6-8 weeks instead of 6 or 8 or 7? I think that is just because injuries are variable in so many ways, definitive time frames are hard to get accurate.
Seriously, WGAF
Its more the longer term injuries. Chaplin is out with concussion oh wait no its calf. Foley has a bruised heel, oh no wait he ruptured his achilles. Vickery fell off a bike no wait his getting both shoulders reconstructed. I guess it's a petty thing I just don't like being lied to :thumbsup
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A bit of a surprise but Reece is being brought back via Coburg this week.
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Need him back after the bye.
Midfield is threadbare atm.
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A bit of a surprise but Reece is being brought back via Coburg this week.
Hasn't played for awhile.
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A bit of a surprise but Reece is being brought back via Coburg this week.
Smart move I reckon, can cap his game time coming back via the VFL, wouldn't be able to do that the same at AFL level.
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Likely only play a couple of q, good management :clapping
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Yep. This is a good move.
Be nice having he and Brandy back after the break.
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A bit of a surprise but Reece is being brought back via Coburg this week.
Hasn't played for awhile.
Smart move I reckon, can cap his game time coming back via the VFL, wouldn't be able to do that the same at AFL level.
I didn't mean I was surprised Reece is being brought back via the VFL; more that I was suprised he is playing at all this week. I thought the club, after saying Reece might get up this week, decided they weren't going to play him this week and wait until after the bye. Maybe I misunderstood and they meant AFL wise he wasn't going to play until after the bye.
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A bit of a surprise but Reece is being brought back via Coburg this week.
Hasn't played for awhile.
Smart move I reckon, can cap his game time coming back via the VFL, wouldn't be able to do that the same at AFL level.
I didn't mean I was surprised Reece is being brought back via the VFL; more that I was suprised he is playing at all this week. I thought the club, after saying Reece might get up this week, decided they weren't going to play him this week and wait until after the bye. Maybe I misunderstood and they meant AFL wise he wasn't going to play until after the bye.
Maybe thier logic (and I use that term loosely ;D) is have him play this week in the demadning VFL and with the bye next week see how he pulls up (eg any soreness etc)
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Maybe the prediction of rain and therefore a soft ground sounded more appealing than a hard subiaco oval, to have your first run back after a foot injury....
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Maybe the prediction of rain and therefore a soft ground sounded more appealing than a hard subiaco oval, to have your first run back after a foot injury....
Funny I was thinking that if it is too wet (Coburg Oval has terrible drainage and turns into a bog) they may pul him out of the game altogether
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Hopefully he can get a couple of games under belt before we resume after bye
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We really miss the depth this kid adds to our on field midfield. At the moment, without Tuck, Ellis and Conca, too much is left to too few.
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Good news he is back. Hope goes well on weekend. Need him back in team.
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Reece Conca also escaped unscathed in his first game back for Coburg after a niggling foot injury.
Conca's efforts in the midfield were recognised in the Tigers' 10-point win over the Bendigo Gold.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-02/around-the-state-leagues-crow-a-clearance-king-in-sanfl
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Great to hear :clapping
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AUDIO: RSN Breakfast caught up with young Richmond midfielder, Reece Conca, on this morning's program, who returned from injury, and joined his side in the impressive win over Adelaide on Saturday. The Tigers continue to improve and now sit inside the top eight ...
http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1371426630.mp3
* We’ve just slowly progressed over the last few years. We’ve had the same game plan implemented, but with that maturity, we’re playing more consistently week to week. I think that’s really helped us and a bit of added depth as well. We know that guys who are coming back into the side can do their role for the team, and do it well.
* Everyone likes a bit of consistency and I think we’ve just found that little groove. We’ve just got to keep growing on that. We’ve got a bit of confidence as well, which helps win close games and big games, like we did on the weekend. I think it’s really going to help us.
* It was just great to run back out there with the guys and getting a win was an added bonus. I’m just really happy to be back and I’m glad the coaches gave me the opportunity to get back quickly.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-17/tigers-in-a-groove
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The forgotten first-rounder
Richmond's talented youngsters and first-round draft picks Brandon Ellis (2011) and Nick Vlastuin (2012) have quite rightly earned the plaudits for their amazing seasons this year. But fellow youngster, and fellow first-round pick, Reece Conca (2010) showed why the future is bright at Tigerland. Conca missed a little more than a month with a foot injury, but made up for lost time against the Bulldogs by gathering 21 possessions and kicking two goals in an impressive display.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-22/five-talking-points-richmond-v-western-bulldogs
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Love the range wog Italian
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Love the range wog Italian
Not sure that he would return the affection considering the epithet you've given him.
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Love the range wog Italian
Not sure that he would return the affection considering the epithet you've given him.
get over it
he is a ranga
he is a wog
and he is proud of both
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me thinks the only hole around here is the one some people dig for themselves
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This kid will only get better, not sure you could say the same about Gaff
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gaff
do not want
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By Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
Sunday, June 23, 2013
Richmond's developing midfield depth is personified by third-year midfielder Reece Conca.
Conca, in just his second game back in the senior side after being sidelined for six weeks with a foot injury, starred against the Western Bulldogs with 21 disposals and two goals.
Hardwick said he expects plenty of improvement for Conca, who adds toughness and class to an already star-studded midfield.
Conca's role, like so many of his lesser-known teammates, will be pivotal towards the business end of the season.
"He (Conca) is certainly finding his feet. What he has got is an uncanny ability to find his teammates through the heat of traffic," Hardwick said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-23/tigers-must-build-momentum
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If he sharpens up his footskills will be elite.
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VIDEO: Reece Conca spoke to Roar Vision after a great game last night and even talked #concacuddle ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-06-23/round-13-conca-post-match
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Like his toughness. Very good off the ball as well
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Conca finds his feet
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, June 24, 2013
“I pulled up a little bit sore from the first game back early in the week, but recovered nicely, and I thought it was just a nice, solid game,” Conca told “Roar Vision”.
“It was good to get a couple of goals and really contribute that way.
“I’m hopefully going to build from that, get some match fitness back to its peak, and just play my role for the team.”
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-24/conca-finds-his-feet
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Red Wog >>> Tullamarine Barbie™
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Conca Cuddle!
Good to see some passion in players!
Italians are the best lovers!
;)
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Conca Cuddle!
Good to see some passion in players!
Italians are the best lovers!
;)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNf50v7CEAAkKik.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/349022180748693504/photo/1
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I stuff love this guy.
Heppel can jump off a cliff
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Heppel can skip off a cliff
EFA
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:lol
:moi
her and watts will be front page of the record this week
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Red Wog >>> Tullamarine Barbie™
:lol
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dats not what I said one eyed >:(
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I hear that Freo wants to pay Conca 450 compared to his current 280 if we can strike a deal that sends him home to WA... Seriously hoping its just an unsubstantiated rumour...
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I hear that Freo wants to pay Conca 450 compared to his current 280 if we can strike a deal that sends him home to WA... Seriously hoping its just an unsubstantiated rumour...
Wouldn't surprise that the purple poofs would go after him. Hopefully he stays.
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how do freo always have salary cap space :huh :huh
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how do freo always have salary cap space :huh :huh
I was just thinking the same bents?? Every year or second year they have a spare shitload of cash to throw at a new target. 2 years ago it was zac Clarke and the other muppet that ended up at Melbourne, it's not as if they don't a have their fair share of stars - mcpharlin, pav, sandilands, mundy, fyfe, Barlow now, hill, I'm sure there are a few more IV forgotten
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conca is going no where he loves it at richmond and he has rfc initials, rfc is in his blood lol
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how do freo always have salary cap space :huh :huh
I was just thinking the same bents?? Every year or second year they have a spare pooload of cash to throw at a new target. 2 years ago it was zac Clarke and the other muppet that ended up at Melbourne, it's not as if they don't a have their fair share of stars - mcpharlin, pav, sandilands, mundy, fyfe, Barlow now, hill, I'm sure there are a few more IV forgotten
But Pav is their highest paid player is on the veterans list, think McPharlin & Sandilands might be as well
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I thought they were trying to squeeze in Buddy?
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I love the red wog but if freo want him they can give us Fyfe.
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conca is going no where he loves it at richmond and he has rfc initials, rfc is in his blood lol
Reece ****ing Conca?
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Frederick
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Reece Fantapants Conca
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*snort* lol
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:lol
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UPDATE 20/9/2013: Conca re-signs for 3-more years :thumbsup
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/out-of-contract-richmond-star-dustin-martin-jets-out-for-sydney/story-fnfll94y-1226722549552
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It's Damian Barrett so not the most reliable source ....
Apparently West Coast have put a sizable offer to Conca. Reece wants to stay at Richmond and most likely will but the sizable offer from the Eagles will mean he's got a big decision to make.
And how does he get to the weagles if the tiges refuse to trade? Ask Barrett.
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It's Damian Barrett so not the most reliable source ....
Apparently West Coast have put a sizable offer to Conca. Reece wants to stay at Richmond and most likely will but the sizable offer from the Eagles will mean he's got a big decision to make.
And how does he get to the weagles if the tiges refuse to trade? Ask Barrett.
If is he uncontracted he goes into the draft and puts a price on his head. Assuming the WC offer is a good one no-one else is prepared to pay it and he goes.
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It's Damian Barrett so not the most reliable source ....
Apparently West Coast have put a sizable offer to Conca. Reece wants to stay at Richmond and most likely will but the sizable offer from the Eagles will mean he's got a big decision to make.
And how does he get to the weagles if the tiges refuse to trade? Ask Barrett.
If is he uncontracted he goes into the draft and puts a price on his head. Assuming the WC offer is a good one no-one else is prepared to pay it and he goes.
And no one before West Coast will bite? I don't think West Coast will risk it.
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My mail is RFC have also made a very good offer and he likes richmond :shh
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It's Damian Barrett so not the most reliable source ....
Apparently West Coast have put a sizable offer to Conca. Reece wants to stay at Richmond and most likely will but the sizable offer from the Eagles will mean he's got a big decision to make.
And how does he get to the weagles if the tiges refuse to trade? Ask Barrett.
If is he uncontracted he goes into the draft and puts a price on his head. Assuming the WC offer is a good one no-one else is prepared to pay it and he goes.
And no one before West Coast will bite? I don't think West Coast will risk it.
Melbourne would. Then we'd get nothing. We'd trade him if that's what he wanted.
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only do a trade if they offer Nicnat and a their first draft pick.. :santa
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no biggy as long as we get Shuey or Selwood
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no biggy as long as we get Shuey or Selwood
Errrrrrrrr,Wrong Selwood.
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no biggy as long as we get Shuey or Selwood
Errrrrrrrr,Wrong Selwood.
Scooter Selwood goes more than alright, not Adam.
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It's Damian Barrett so not the most reliable source ....
Apparently West Coast have put a sizable offer to Conca. Reece wants to stay at Richmond and most likely will but the sizable offer from the Eagles will mean he's got a big decision to make.
And how does he get to the weagles if the tiges refuse to trade? Ask Barrett.
If is he uncontracted he goes into the draft and puts a price on his head. Assuming the WC offer is a good one no-one else is prepared to pay it and he goes.
And no one before West Coast will bite? I don't think West Coast will risk it.
It makes no difference to us and the kid ends up with the cash he is after regardless.
The problem for the RFC is he walks for nothing, that's why they would be silly not to trade him if he wants to go.
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Conca for EMac get it done tigs :clapping
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Why wouldn't they want Conca, will be a gem.
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I want the Conca Cuddles to remain an RFC-only act.
:cuddles
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Required player. Sign him up as quickly as possible.
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not going anywhere
just bought a pizzeria in Pascoe Vale
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X 1000 :police:
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scooter Selwood was available with the pick we gave for Jordan McMahon...ie. that pick could have got us ward or Selwood... imagine either running around with us now... :banghead
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even better, imagine jordy still running around for us now.
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scooter Selwood was available with the pick we gave for Jordan McMahon...ie. that pick could have got us ward or Selwood... imagine either running around with us now... :banghead
Funny with Ward, he had success playing in finals with the dogs and deserted the ship
Would he have stayed with us? imo probably not either
Selwood possibly but we can only worry about what we have now and what we hope to gain in future, Ive learnt theres no point dwelling on that stuff we have a volcano of talent waiting to erupt :shh
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I hope we don't pay overs for Conca just because of the WCE offer. That's how we have got into trouble before. Let's face it, Reece has been OK since he was drafted but OK is about as far as I would go.. IMO will never be elite. A good honest footballer that will give his all. Just ask yourself, would we be noticeably worse without him if he decided that home is where he wanted to be??
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scooter Selwood was available with the pick we gave for Jordan McMahon...ie. that pick could have got us ward or Selwood... imagine either running around with us now... :banghead
Not sure scott selwood is any champion, ive got him as a poor mans jacko :lol
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I hope we don't pay overs for Conca just because of the WCE offer. That's how we have got into trouble before. Let's face it, Reece has been OK since he was drafted but OK is about as far as I would go.. IMO will never be elite. A good honest footballer that will give his all. Just ask yourself, would we be noticeably worse without him if he decided that home is where he wanted to be??
If Conca left, Tuck retired and Foley got injured again then we'd be up the poo. We've got Vlastuin now and Arnot might be something, but it's slim after that. I don't want to lose Conca or anyone, the team has only just started to click and we need everyone and can hopefully add to it. Unless we could pilfer Shuey or one of their foot soldiers like Gaff or Masten with their first rounder, or go find way to get Adams off GWS, losing Conca could be a bit of a blow.
I don't think we'll lose him, but I reckon the option of more coin and playing back in his home town would certainly be tempting.
:pray
Fair points dwaino.
But I think you are dreaming if you think we would get Gaff or Masten and their first round pick. Talk about over inflating our players worth! Gaff or Masten would be a fair swap IMO. Both teams would be happy enough with that sort of trade.
Also think you are selling short our midfield a bit.
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I hope we don't pay overs for Conca just because of the WCE offer. That's how we have got into trouble before. Let's face it, Reece has been OK since he was drafted but OK is about as far as I would go.. IMO will never be elite. A good honest footballer that will give his all. Just ask yourself, would we be noticeably worse without him if he decided that home is where he wanted to be??
If Conca left, Tuck retired and Foley got injured again then we'd be up the poo. We've got Vlastuin now and Arnot might be something, but it's slim after that. I don't want to lose Conca or anyone, the team has only just started to click and we need everyone and can hopefully add to it. Unless we could pilfer Shuey or one of their foot soldiers like Gaff or Masten with their first rounder, or go find way to get Adams off GWS, losing Conca could be a bit of a blow.
I don't think we'll lose him, but I reckon the option of more coin and playing back in his home town would certainly be tempting.
:pray
Fair points dwaino.
But I think you are dreaming if you think we would get Gaff or Masten and their first round pick. Talk about over inflating our players worth! Gaff or Masten would be a fair swap IMO. Both teams would be happy enough with that sort of trade.
Also think you are selling short our midfield a bit.
Yeah I know that would be dreaming :laugh: but just saying unless we could get that sort of return then we'd have a hole in the middle. Not sure it's selling the midfield short though. Just using the same hypothetical, Conca gone, Tuck retired, and Foley with that heel/ankle again, who do we have? Vlastuin, Arnot, Helbig, and Lonergan if you want to include a current rookie listed player. We got through injuries this year and won games due to midfield depth, and if Conca and Tuck weren't around then we're already starting two quality first choice midfielders behind. Of course only using the Tuck example because he's been talked out of retirement a couple times now.
We can't afford to wind back at the moment, we really have to add or do like for likes at the worst if we're going to challenge anything.
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nicnat and first daft pick or pee off
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I get the feeling Conca will stay as will the other lads.
Dan Richardson has spoken to the boys in relation to the Geelong model and staying with on field success or being greedy to chase big bucks at minnow or fledgling clubs.
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I get the feeling Conca will stay as will the other lads.
Dan Richardson has spoken to the boys in relation to the Geelong model and staying with on field success or being greedy to chase big bucks at minnow or fledgling clubs.
he will stay
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I get the feeling Conca will stay as will the other lads.
Dan Richardson has spoken to the boys in relation to the Geelong model and staying with on field success or being greedy to chase big bucks at minnow or fledgling clubs.
Don't get me wrong I don't want him to leave but money might not be his only reason to concider going home. The two together might make it a little bit harder than just if it was a money decision.
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I get the feeling Conca will stay as will the other lads.
Dan Richardson has spoken to the boys in relation to the Geelong model and staying with on field success or being greedy to chase big bucks at minnow or fledgling clubs.
Don't get me wrong I don't want him to leave but money might not be his only reason to concider going home. The two together might make it a little bit harder than just if it was a money decision.
Possibly I just look at Harry Taylor and think that's quality. He's payed in two flags and can easily go back home and live like a king but he chose to stay.
Conca whilst no Harry Taylor is only just finding his feet and I feel there is a real determination and belief in the group to reap what has been sown in the last few years. Further to that I feel he will be an unfulfilled talent if he heads home as he will become complacent as here he will excel due to the knowledge he worked for his success.
I feel he'll stay. :thumbsup
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I hope we don't pay overs for Conca just because of the WCE offer. That's how we have got into trouble before. Let's face it, Reece has been OK since he was drafted but OK is about as far as I would go.. IMO will never be elite. A good honest footballer that will give his all. Just ask yourself, would we be noticeably worse without him if he decided that home is where he wanted to be??
If Conca left, Tuck retired and Foley got injured again then we'd be up the poo. We've got Vlastuin now and Arnot might be something, but it's slim after that. I don't want to lose Conca or anyone, the team has only just started to click and we need everyone and can hopefully add to it. Unless we could pilfer Shuey or one of their foot soldiers like Gaff or Masten with their first rounder, or go find way to get Adams off GWS, losing Conca could be a bit of a blow.
I don't think we'll lose him, but I reckon the option of more coin and playing back in his home town would certainly be tempting.
:pray
Fair points dwaino.
But I think you are dreaming if you think we would get Gaff or Masten and their first round pick. Talk about over inflating our players worth! Gaff or Masten would be a fair swap IMO. Both teams would be happy enough with that sort of trade.
Also think you are selling short our midfield a bit.
Yeah I know that would be dreaming :laugh: but just saying unless we could get that sort of return then we'd have a hole in the middle. Not sure it's selling the midfield short though. Just using the same hypothetical, Conca gone, Tuck retired, and Foley with that heel/ankle again, who do we have? Vlastuin, Arnot, Helbig, and Lonergan if you want to include a current rookie listed player. We got through injuries this year and won games due to midfield depth, and if Conca and Tuck weren't around then we're already starting two quality first choice midfielders behind. Of course only using the Tuck example because he's been talked out of retirement a couple times now.
We can't afford to wind back at the moment, we really have to add or do like for likes at the worst if we're going to challenge anything.
Tuck hasn't played for a while now and we seem to have covered him pretty well. And Foley seems to be recovering pretty well. Pretty sure if Conca left we would almost definitely get a mid in return and as you said with Arnot, Lonergan, Helbig and Dea (Dea not a mid but him in the side frees up other players to run through there) screaming for an opportunity to play in the midfield. And even the possibility of picking a few more in the up coming draft I think our midfield stocks could handle the departure of Conca.
Anyway it's probably only a crock of shyt. :thumbsup
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I get the feeling Conca will stay as will the other lads.
Dan Richardson has spoken to the boys in relation to the Geelong model and staying with on field success or being greedy to chase big bucks at minnow or fledgling clubs.
Don't get me wrong I don't want him to leave but money might not be his only reason to concider going home. The two together might make it a little bit harder than just if it was a money decision.
Possibly I just look at Harry Taylor and think that's quality. He's payed in two flags and can easily go back home and live like a king but he chose to stay.
Conca whilst no Harry Taylor is only just finding his feet and I feel there is a real determination and belief in the group to reap what has been sown in the last few years. Further to that I feel he will be an unfulfilled talent if he heads home as he will become complacent as here he will excel due to the knowledge he worked for his success.
I feel he'll stay. :thumbsup
Well said, T-bag. :thumbsup
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talking of wce the word in the west is woosha is gone they are chasing clarkson pretty hard.
also the word is the coach has done a wayne carey and the missus has gven an ultimatum.
also the word is shuey has actually done his shoulder and wont play again this yr.
finally word is darren glass will dfinately retire which means if mitch brown goes home they will be desperate for a kpd.
all from i must say what has been a good reliable source in the past.
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Conca for EMac get it done tigs :clapping
dont want to be a kill joy but mackenzie is not going to leave his home town.an out of contract player wanting to go home would suggest we are in no position to demand.
a win win trade would have to our best bet.
will say it again wce have some very promiising talls that we sure could do with.
if conca wants to go home a common sense ask would be lycett a very promising 20 21 yr old ruckman plus maybe a reasonable pick 2nd 3rd round as well..which we could use on a mid. after all wce can afford to offload a young ruckman when they have cox naitanui and sinclair on their list as well.atm the one area we have a little depth in is midfield. it wpould probably be a good scenario for both sides.
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Conca for EMac get it done tigs :clapping
dont want to be a kill joy but mackenzie is not going to leave his home town.an out of contract player wanting to go home would suggest we are in no position to demand.
a win win trade would have to our best bet.
will say it again wce have some very promiising talls that we sure could do with.
if conca wants to go home a common sense ask would be lycett a very promising 20 21 yr old ruckman plus maybe a reasonable pick 2nd 3rd round as well..which we could use on a mid. after all wce can afford to offload a young ruckman when they have cox naitanui and sinclair on their list as well.atm the one area we have a little depth in is midfield. it wpould probably be a good scenario for both sides.
Lycett was dropped earlier in the year in favour of Sinclair. I'd be spewing if we traded Conca for him.
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Conca for EMac get it done tigs :clapping
dont want to be a kill joy but mackenzie is not going to leave his home town.an out of contract player wanting to go home would suggest we are in no position to demand.
a win win trade would have to our best bet.
will say it again wce have some very promiising talls that we sure could do with.
if conca wants to go home a common sense ask would be lycett a very promising 20 21 yr old ruckman plus maybe a reasonable pick 2nd 3rd round as well..which we could use on a mid. after all wce can afford to offload a young ruckman when they have cox naitanui and sinclair on their list as well.atm the one area we have a little depth in is midfield. it wpould probably be a good scenario for both sides.
Lycett was dropped earlier in the year in favour of Sinclair. I'd be spewing if we traded Conca for him.
mate hes still an undersized 20 yr old who has done well to even get a game i dunno what sort of expectations you have on baby ruckmen but hes doing nicely against men in the wafl.
hes an infinately better prospect than sinclair more agile bigger frame better skills and hes 3 yrs sinclairs junior.
we need a ruckman and we need to be ready for when ivan goes and we need onewho can perform the role when ivan is sore or injured. if we took him at the end of this yr hed be in yr 4 and ready to play afl at a reasonable level.
anyway lets see if we lose conca to the eagles what do we need most that they have or are going to lose. we sure could do with another kpd what about mitch brown and a draft pick.
imo atm most people over rate conca and what hes worth as it is.
for me a real promising tall/ruckman whos had 3 yrs of development put into him plus a decent pick is more than fair compensation but hey thats just my opinion.
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Richmond needs Conca's signature
New football manager Dan Richardson has done an outstanding job in securing the Tigers' key players this season, but he has much work left to do ahead of finals. While Dustin Martin is the big name out of contract, Reece Conca highlighted how important he is to the club's future on Saturday. Yet to sign on beyond 2013, the young West Australian has high currency both in WA and Victoria. He kicked three goals in the first half and finished with 21 possessions. Now could be a good time for a deal to be finalised.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-10/talking-points-tigers-v-lions
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
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Our leading player til half time.
Led the tackles, 10 posessions and hit the scoreboard for 3.0 goals
Wasnt to shabby in the second half too. One of a few who kept trying
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
we cant afford to lose conca. rather delist an extra player down the list than lose conca coz of salary cap issues.
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
Not as crazy as it sounds.
Conca compliments the team perfectly. His tools are great foil for Lids, Chimp etc.
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
Cant agree with that, very good and important but Martin is a match winner, kicks the goals when we need them and kicks the un kickable ones. Just as hard at it as Conca but with more skill.
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
Cant agree with that, very good and important but Martin is a match winner, kicks the goals when we need them and kicks the un kickable ones. Just as hard at it as Conca but with more skill.
conca was our match winner yesterday not martin
conca has a better much better footy brain and is a better and harder at the contest and tackling
sure martin can be dynamic and has a booming kick and fendoff but many of his kicks now he is messing up, check the way he now holds the ball and ball drops, its messy and hit and miss
conca and ellis are safe and sound and even though martin may be stronger, conca ellis vlas all go harder at the contest and tackle better
conca and ellis have real chemistry on the ground and conca will be an elite player in future and martin will waste his career due to his choices and lifestyle and in western sydney
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
we cant afford to lose conca. rather delist an extra player down the list than lose conca coz of salary cap issues.
Yep lets have him stay at all costs :lol stitch up capt, jack and lids for understand by over pay for Conca
He would be a loss for sure but no one is indispensable anymore at Tigerland - didn't you get the e mail ;D
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
Cant agree with that, very good and important but Martin is a match winner, kicks the goals when we need them and kicks the un kickable ones. Just as hard at it as Conca but with more skill.
conca was our match winner yesterday not martin
conca has a better much better footy brain and is a better and harder at the contest and tackling
sure martin can be dynamic and has a booming kick and fendoff but many of his kicks now he is messing up, check the way he now holds the ball and ball drops, its messy and hit and miss
conca and ellis are safe and sound and even though martin may be stronger, conca ellis vlas all go harder at the contest and tackle better
conca and ellis have real chemistry on the ground and conca will be an elite player in future and martin will waste his career due to his choices and lifestyle and in western sydney
Mmmm, ok, don't agree, sorry.
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u dont have to agree but i will say i told u so when the time arises
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u dont have to agree but i will say i told u so when the time arises
Like with Rance... :whistle
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Conca was great yesterday. Normally shaky in front of goal but converted which was nice.
Martin is more important though IMO. He's a match winner. Consider the Sydney game. We got flogged and Martin just carved them up all day. Jagging 3 goals against a bottom 8 side is one thing but sticking it to the premiers like Martin did is another.
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Conca was great yesterday. Normally shaky in front of goal but converted which was nice.
Martin is more important though IMO. He's a match winner. Consider the Sydney game. We got flogged and Martin just carved them up all day. Jagging 3 goals against a bottom 8 side is one thing but sticking it to the premiers like Martin did is another.
Also gave us the edge against Freo. Has done this many time this year, more than Conca.
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u dont have to agree but i will say i told u so when the time arises
Like with Rance... :whistle
rance is still our weak link in defence dont worry
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strongest link in the chain is Alex. :shh
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strongest link in the chain is Alex. :shh
x2.. :shh :shh
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It is silly comparing Conca with Martin. They are two completely different players and play different roles. Conca played a very good game yesterday. His tackling was a highlight. As for Rance he played a very good game yesterday and as usual showed good determination
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Will re-sign, he's not going anywhere ;D
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u dont have to agree but i will say i told u so when the time arises
Like with Rance... :whistle
rance is still our weak link in defence dont worry
Your dillusional, that's what I do know.
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Rance is a fantastic player and should be close to AA this year IMO and I agree with the strongest link in the chain call.
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
we cant afford to lose conca. rather delist an extra player down the list than lose conca coz of salary cap issues.
Yep lets have him stay at all costs :lol stitch up capt, jack and lids for understand by over pay for Conca
He would be a loss for sure but no one is indispensable anymore at Tigerland - didn't you get the e mail ;D
your a dill if you think losing conca is a good idea. the kid is worth 350k a year and if thats what we offer he'll stay.
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
we cant afford to lose conca. rather delist an extra player down the list than lose conca coz of salary cap issues.
Yep lets have him stay at all costs :lol stitch up capt, jack and lids for understand by over pay for Conca
He would be a loss for sure but no one is indispensable anymore at Tigerland - didn't you get the e mail ;D
your a dill if you think losing conca is a good idea. the kid is worth 350k a year and if thats what we offer he'll stay.
Yeah I agree with this and he is highly respected at the Club by players and Officials. He won't be going anywhere as our offer will be respectable.
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Conca continues to climb
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, August 12, 2013
Talented, young Richmond midfielder Reece Conca kicked a career-high, three goals in last Saturday’s finals-clinching win against Brisbane at the MCG, to further underline his impressive development at the game’s highest level.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-12/conca-continues-to-climb
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Happy 21st birthday to Reece :birthday
http://instagram.com/p/c5fkd-uAlI/#
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:birthday :birthday :birthday Reece!!!
May you have many more at the Tigers!!
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Should tell him if he doesn't sign he doesn't get a birthday cake.
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Salary cap squeeze at Tigerland makes it difficult for club to increase two-year offer to Reece Conca
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
August 14, 2013 10:00PM
RICHMOND will have to increase its two-year offer to Reece Conca if his contract impasse is to be resolved before the finals.
West Australian Conca wants to stay at Richmond but has been offered a deal far inferior to what he could expect on the open market.
He has been described by former Tigers assistant coach David King as Richmond's best midfielder after Trent Cotchin.
The No.6 draft pick set the MCG alight with three goals and 21 disposals against Brisbane last weekend.
Richmond recently offered to lift some restrictive bonus clauses because of Conca's run of good form, but negotiations are stalled.
The Tigers have an extremely tight salary cap and also are hoping to secure Dustin Martin.
They have denied links to a bid for homesick Greater Western Sydney midfielder Taylor Adams, believing their onball brigade is strong enough.
But the salary cap squeeze means Conca, who has played 48 encouraging games in his three years at Richmond, would have to stay for well below market rates.
For his most recent contract, Martin was able to secure a massive deal of about $500,000 a season as the spectre of Greater Western Sydney loomed.
Conca would be in demand at Fremantle and West Coast, has not used that as a negotiating tactic.
He wants to stay at a side that will play finals this year, but not at any cost.
While conjecture around unsigned players is a mild distraction, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Alex Rance, Daniel Grimes, Daniel Jackson are locked in.
President Gary March said last week he was confident the club would re-sign his former house guest Martin.
"We had quite a number of uncontracted players this year and probably we started with the talks with Dustin after we started with Jack, so Jacks talks were further advanced. So there's no hold up. It's just going through the process at the moment."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/salary-cap-squeeze-at-tigerland-makes-it-difficult-for-club-to-increase-two-year-offer-to-reece-conca/story-fndv8t7m-1226697356651
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Martin should not be paid so much to keep Conca... Conca is a more rounded and better player and should be priority over Martin... Martin just has more hype...
send him off to Sydney and lets cash in on him now
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Jeebs.....
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
As a member i'll be watching this scenario closely. It is, afterall, my/our 'hard earned' that pays for these contracts. BTw Conca is very valuable to the 'fabric' of the club.......and whilst Dusty is a potential 'once in a generation' player, I'm with Username on this one.......we paid 'overs' last contract - he should take that into account in the current negotiations. If he exploits it, well, it will be an insight into the bloke.
If he ends up going to GWS and Buddy doesn't, Adams and Pick 1 for Dusty and our 1st pick sounds right.
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How the stuff can this side at this stage of their development have salary cap pressure?
Either the crayon muncher is full of crapola, or we are screwed in a couple of years as more youngsters become worth more money.
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If only Craig Cameron were here to sort this mess out
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:sleep
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How the stuff can this side at this stage of their development have salary cap pressure?
Either the crayon muncher is full of crapola, or we are screwed in a couple of years as more youngsters become worth more money.
:bow
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If he ends up going to GWS and Buddy doesn't, Adams and Pick 1 for Dusty and our 1st pick sounds right.
Why would GWS give us anything.They have pick 1 in the PSD.
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
Took well under what his worth not sure why you included him
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
Took well under what his worth not sure why you included him
Yeahright.
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
Took well under what his worth not sure why you included him
Yeahright.
Comedy genius :clapping
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Ralphy snorting crayons now. Eating them wasn't enough.
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
Took well under what his worth not sure why you included him
So too did Lids
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Player managers spend too much time trying to get every cent they can when they should be spending more time finding good investments for their clients. A person can take less but earn more if they invest their money properly a person can also earn heaps but pee it up the wall if they make bad investments. The players and their managers should be spending more time working on how to invest their money rather than worrying about getting an extra dollars now. They should also understand that successful Richmond players usually do really well after football - because often the supporters will support their business ventures by becoming customers or clients of their business interests.
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How the stuff can this side at this stage of their development have salary cap pressure?
Either the crayon muncher is full of crapola, or we are screwed in a couple of years as more youngsters become worth more money.
This is what has had me stuffed since the start.
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
From what I know this has always been the case. We dont have salary cap issues as it stands. I heard the club has enough room in the salary cap to bring in one or two players who could help us improve further. The whole issue is about having enough room in the salary cap to bring in those players.
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
From what I know this has always been the case. We dont have salary cap issues as it stands. I heard the club has enough room in the salary cap to bring in one or two players who could help us improve further. The whole issue is about having enough room in the salary cap to bring in those players.
Thank you :clapping :clapping
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
From what I know this has always been the case. We dont have salary cap issues as it stands. I heard the club has enough room in the salary cap to bring in one or two players who could help us improve further. The whole issue is about having enough room in the salary cap to bring in those players.
Thank you :clapping :clapping
Ditto
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
From what I know this has always been the case. We dont have salary cap issues as it stands. I heard the club has enough room in the salary cap to bring in one or two players who could help us improve further. The whole issue is about having enough room in the salary cap to bring in those players.
also wasn't part of the FTF for front loading a lot of contract payments to open up even more cap space in the future?
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
From what I know this has always been the case. We dont have salary cap issues as it stands. I heard the club has enough room in the salary cap to bring in one or two players who could help us improve further. The whole issue is about having enough room in the salary cap to bring in those players.
also wasn't part of the FTF for front loading a lot of contract payments to open up even more cap space in the future?
yes sir Mr Gerkin, front load contracts to enable us to be aggressive in FA in particular
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beat up - Ralphys way off
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Geelong players agreed to have their contracts shaved in order to keep the side together . I hope the club takes this same tack. Are you there: Cotch/Lids/Jack? 8)
Took well under what his worth not sure why you included him
I agree, but, it could be a case of needing to tighten even further. Only the club knows.
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Our administration has become a very professional bunch. The aim is to win a flag we havent got the players to do that yet (although anything is possible) Conca and Martin should do the right thing, they have been offered fair contracts, the club needs the room to bring in the players we need to get closer to a flag winning team. What Conca and Martin have to decide is whether they just want money or do they want Premierships and still be on a good wicket. Now moneys important but players want Premiership medallions, thats why they should accept the contracts offered and if they achieve premiership player status they will be rewarded anyways.
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Yep :thumbsup
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Grigg just re-signed for 2 years.. get on board Concs where going no where but up!
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Great post on PRE from a bloke who was a function this morning that GM spoke at.
Dusty and Reece will be signed shortly...
I listened to Dimma with KB this morning, it seems we are leaving scope to entice players over to bolster our playing roster...
hope so
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My source has said that Reece is as good as gone, and they are looking at swinging a 3 team trade to GWS and West Coast for Taylor Adams.
However, my source also told me that Cloke to Richmond was as good as done, as well as Dangerfield was a done deal to the Cats a couple of years ago.
Okay, my source is Deepthroat on BigFooty.
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Okay, my source is Deepthroat on BigFooty.
:lol
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:lol
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How the stuff can this side at this stage of their development have salary cap pressure?
Either the crayon muncher is full of crapola, or we are screwed in a couple of years as more youngsters become worth more money.
Top post. :cheers
Was thinking the exact same thing.
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real concern when they come out with comments like our onball brigade is strong enough.imo it still falls away too dramatically after a certain point.you can never have enough good mids. adams and dom tyson would round our mids off nicely.
cotchin, deledio conca, ellis, foley,martin, vlaustin. after this it falls away in various ways.. yes some not named are servicable and some are getting on. add adams and dom tyson to the 7 named and it looks real good moving forward.
someone like adams as a replacement for tuck who is nearing the end. we need to keep on buildiing on what we have done we are no where near a premiership yet.
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After todays debacle they can all take pay cuts the overpaid pretenders
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real concern when they come out with comments like our onball brigade is strong enough.imo it still falls away too dramatically after a certain point.you can never have enough good mids. adams and dom tyson would round our mids off nicely.
cotchin, deledio conca, ellis, foley,martin, vlaustin. after this it falls away in various ways.. yes some not named are servicable and some are getting on. add adams and dom tyson to the 7 named and it looks real good moving forward.
someone like adams as a replacement for tuck who is nearing the end. we need to keep on buildiing on what we have done we are no where near a premiership yet.
I agree. We need to get more mid-fielders into the club. How would you propose to get the one's you mentioned Claw?
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After todays debacle they can all take pay cuts the overpaid pretenders
:yep
First cab off the rank - D. Martin.
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After todays debacle they can all take pay cuts the overpaid pretenders
Yes. Top post Chuck :thumbsup
I'm not sure if you are serious or not but I am.
What happened today was unacceptable.
Hate the cheating scum!!!
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real concern when they come out with comments like our onball brigade is strong enough.imo it still falls away too dramatically after a certain point.you can never have enough good mids. adams and dom tyson would round our mids off nicely.
cotchin, deledio conca, ellis, foley,martin, vlaustin. after this it falls away in various ways.. yes some not named are servicable and some are getting on. add adams and dom tyson to the 7 named and it looks real good moving forward.
someone like adams as a replacement for tuck who is nearing the end. we need to keep on buildiing on what we have done we are no where near a premiership yet.
I agree. We need to get more mid-fielders into the club. How would you propose to get the one's you mentioned Claw?
not real sure to be honest. to get quality you give up quality.
what i do know is we should not be sitting on our laurels and with comments like our midfield is strong enough that is what they are seemingly doing.
we should be exploring all means to get quality players to our club and significantly improving key areas.
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real concern when they come out with comments like our onball brigade is strong enough.imo it still falls away too dramatically after a certain point.you can never have enough good mids. adams and dom tyson would round our mids off nicely.
cotchin, deledio conca, ellis, foley,martin, vlaustin. after this it falls away in various ways.. yes some not named are servicable and some are getting on. add adams and dom tyson to the 7 named and it looks real good moving forward.
someone like adams as a replacement for tuck who is nearing the end. we need to keep on buildiing on what we have done we are no where near a premiership yet.
I agree. We need to get more mid-fielders into the club. How would you propose to get the one's you mentioned Claw?
not real sure to be honest. to get quality you give up quality.
what i do know is we should not be sitting on our laurels and with comments like our midfield is strong enough that is what they are seemingly doing.
we should be exploring all means to get quality players to our club and significantly improving key areas.
I reckon Blair may be on the look-out for a seasoned inside mid this year having plugged holes in other areas over the last couple of years.
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Reece plays his 50th on Sunday.
He's averaged 18 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles per game over his 3 year career so far.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2062&SeasonID=ALL
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Good on you mate , I like to think of him as the ugly duckling .... Will be dead set star in due course
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Love him love the way he plays ...Cant leave him alone
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Congrats. Sign him up
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Wow 50 games so quickly...well done Reece, lets hope you have 250 in the yellow and black!!!
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Does this overcome the Sheeds last game as coach in Sydney thing?
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Does this overcome the Sheeds last game as coach in Sydney thing?
Yes :thumbsup
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Good on you mate , I like to think of him as the ugly duckling .... Will be dead set star in due course
Good call buddy.
I believe he will rival the likes of Carey and be able turn the game his way at will.
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Has he re-signed yet? :shh
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Red Wog :cheers
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Has he re-signed yet? :shh
wce are apparently right into him to go home.
personally if he goes id be happy to swap him for a player like scott lycett if that is the case
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I thought we were meant to be upgrading our list?
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Has he re-signed yet? :shh
wce are apparently right into him to go home.
personally if he goes id be happy to swap him for a player like scott lycett if that is the case
I'd prefer that they got West Coasts 1st pick ~7, then trade our first pick ~15 for Adams and use 7 in the draft :thumbsup
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Nice one Wayne :thumbsup
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Congrats to Reece. Looking forward to the conca cuddles. Let's hope he kicks a few birthday goals
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I heard that west coke are very confident in getting Conca.
My mate in the west reckons deal is already done.
If so what would be a reasonable trade?....
I wouldn't like to lose him and if we do the trade better be decent.
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Say it ain't sooooowoooaawoooaawoooaoo
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I didn't hear it on 3AW but this bloke reckons he's staying http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/reece-conca-50-games.1026029/#post-29811054
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didnt we hear the same poo about conca last year?
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didnt we hear the same poo about conca last year?
He signed for more than 1 year surely.
How's the crowd at the Humpty Doo?
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quiet, very quiet.
on fta so at home today ;D
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VIDEO: Reece interviewed after the game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-08-26/round-22-conca-postmatch
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didnt we hear the same poo about conca last year?
Being WA we will probably hear it every year
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didnt we hear the same poo about conca last year?
He signed for more than 1 year surely.
How's the crowd at the Humpty Doo?
Signed for three originally. Was homesick in 2012 but his parents forced him to stay. He loves it here now. Eagles a bit more than 2 hours behind on the uptake.
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Basics reap rewards for Tigers
By richmondfc.com.au
4:11pm AEST Monday, August 26, 2013
Richmond midfielder Reece Conca believes a reliance on following team process was the most important aspect of Sunday’s 121-point victory over Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/basics-reap-rewards-for-tigers
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Heard from another player who counts him as one of his closest friends that he eventually wants to go home but not yet. Told me he was am almost certainty to sign soon but don't expect him to be around for his full career. :-\
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As long as it's in his twilight years when we're done with him :thumbsup
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I got no probs once he has 2 or 3 premiership medallions in the cabinet he can go back home as a thirty something to teach the young ins a thing or two Y&B style :clapping
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Heard from another player who counts him as one of his closest friends that he eventually wants to go home but not yet. Told me he was am almost certainty to sign soon but don't expect him to be around for his full career. :-\
Will be tough to leave when going for a 5-peat. :whistle
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If he does want to eventually leave, as long as he does it after his 7th season, it's all good.
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Overrated.
Already peaked.
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lmao
delist every player in the afl with italian blood esp deledio and conca, all overrated and pathetc
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Red Wog :cheers
No surprise that the more wogs we have in the team the better we go. Draft the Wogs thats how we should recruit.
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Lebanese are not wogs.
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Lebanese are not wogs.
which is why Nahas isn't in the side. we have our Leb quota filled by Houli
still need a baldy, so not all is lost for Nahas if he wants to chrome the dome
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why aren't lebos wogs?
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Sign Conca up now
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why aren't lebos wogs?
:nope
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Red Wog :cheers
No surprise that the more wogs we have in the team the better we go. Draft the Wogs thats how we should recruit.
Bontempelli this year. :clapping
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why aren't lebos wogs?
sand wogs don't count
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OER - Winner of the AFLFFA* Political Correctness and Multicultural Commmunity Acceptance Award for 2013.
;D
* Australian Football League Fans Forum Association
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why aren't lebos wogs?
sand wogs don't count
:lol
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Lebanese are not wogs.
What are they?
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Sand diggers
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:lol
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Really really hope Reece signs with the Tiges. And soon. Too valuable to lose. #6 draft pick. As for WCE, one player is not going to fix their problems. Desperately hoping Reece stays with the team that's on the up and up!
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Dumb ass if he leave s
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Definitely. I watch each day for news on this, hoping something positive comes through in the next few days.
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His contract dollars is dependent of Dusty's otherwise he would have signed by now.
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His contract dollars is dependent of Dusty's otherwise he would have signed by now.
You think so? :-\
Maybe he is just not happy with what he's been offered?
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Robbo on his Tackle column answering questions:
Comment From Dave
Hi Robbo, is Dusty Martin signing this week? And is Conca going West?
Martin not signing I'm told, and Conca stays I'm told
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I thought there was something about Dusty's father wanting to get something signed last week. Guess that hasn't happened yet. Very happy if what you say is true.
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Love this kid in our side need to sign him up ASAP.
we cant afford to lose conca. rather delist an extra player down the list than lose conca coz of salary cap issues.
Yep lets have him stay at all costs :lol stitch up capt, jack and lids for understand by over pay for Conca
He would be a loss for sure but no one is indispensable anymore at Tigerland - didn't you get the e mail ;D
your a dill if you think losing conca is a good idea. the kid is worth 350k a year and if thats what we offer he'll stay.
isnt around 350k just about on the afl average. maybe just a tad over.
just a silly opinion but i think conca is very tradeable, not ideal but tradeable. of course its totally depending on what we get in return. still havent seen anything from reece that would suggest hes going to be elite or for that matter consistently very good.
one thing for sure though if we traded him id hope we take a mid to replace him.
just my opinion but if conca goes, with tucky retiring and a need to continue to build midfield depth id say under those circumstances we would need to take at the minimum 3 mids in our trade nd period.
taylor adams would be a real get. draft another in the nd and target a mature mid from another afl club or state league. i could name 4 or 5 mids in state leagues atm who i would dearly love us to give a chance.
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That is why we need to Conca to stay with Tucky retiring.
IMHO Conca is very underrated but he is a hard nut who gets plenty of it and is starting to kick multiple goals from midfield for us. He shouldn't be traceable but if he is only a first round pick in the top 5 given that he has had 3 years in the system and has performed well with his KPI's increasing each year. I hope now that word has it that Dusty has signed, Conca signs too.
Get it done Tiges. :thumbsup
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I don't consider him to be really all that tough.
Has moments of toughness but I've seen him shirk the issue a few times.
However his hands are excellent and his lateral movement is elite IMO. A lot more potential also. Just needs to kick straighter in front of goal.
Must sign.
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Just needs to kick straighter in front of goal.
EFA
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never seen him squib a contest let alone a few times
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That is why we need to Conca to stay with Tucky retiring.
IMHO Conca is very underrated but he is a hard nut who gets plenty of it and is starting to kick multiple goals from midfield for us. He shouldn't be traceable but if he is only a first round pick in the top 5 given that he has had 3 years in the system and has performed well with his KPI's increasing each year. I hope now that word has it that Dusty has signed, Conca signs too.
Get it done Tiges. :thumbsup
AGREE
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Conca is not soft. Hence the amount of head injury be got in his first season
(http://i.minus.com/iynCsXZR3nUrq.gif)
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I'm unabashed Conca fan, 3rd year pick 6, had his injury interruptions.
Still upside I think, unless you are going to get an upgrade in player then I wouldn't trade unless he wanted to go home, apparently he doesn't.
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VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-08/elimination-final-conca-gone-for-game
Conca injured his hamstring barely 10 minutes into Sunday's game and was substituted out of the match soon after.
Hardwick was not sure of the extent of Conca's injury but said it appeared "significant".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-08/we-expect-to-play-finals
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Devastated Conca says Tigers can build on loss to Blues
By Matt Thompson and Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
11:22am AEST Monday, September 9, 2013
INJURED Richmond midfielder Reece Conca says the Tigers are devastated, but the shock loss to Carlton will only benefit the club in the long run.
The Tigers coughed up a 32-point lead against the Blues to go down by 20 points in front of a record elimination final crowd of 94,690.
Conca was subbed out of the game after injuring his hamstring early in the first quarter, robbing the Tigers of crucial late run.
He headed for scans on Monday morning still not clear on the damage, but the young midfielder insisted the loss would only motivate the players for 2014.
"It's not great - obviously we went in with pretty high expectations but you know Carlton were just the better team on the day," he said.
"It was pretty devastating but we had a really good year, we'll build off that and just look forward to next year."
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick tried to put on a brave face after the disappointing loss, but admitted it was a painful premature end to a season that promised so much.
He acknowledged it was hard to be positive about the future when his overriding emotion so soon after the game was "pure disappointment".
"It's probably a hard question to ask a coach after an elimination final loss whether there's a bright future, but there is. We know there is," Hardwick said on Sunday evening.
Conca is out of contract and in demand after a superb second half of the season.
The 21-year-old fought back from a serious foot injury to play the last 13 games, cementing himself as a key member of the Tigers' deep midfield.
The West Australian has high currency with West Coast and Fremantle, with the Eagles reportedly already putting an offer to him.
Conca's negotiations with Richmond dragged this season, with a number of high profile Tigers working to re-sign with the club.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-09/well-keep-building-conca
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Meanwhile, Conca wants to remain at Punt Road and is happy to sign a two-year deal, as was made clear to the Tigers months ago. But finances remain an issue.
It is understood Conca is after about $350,000 a season, believed to be a modest rise on the final year of his initial three-year deal.
West Coast and Fremantle have expressed interest in Conca, taken with the sixth overall pick in the 2010 national draft, and he has begun to consider a return home. Industry sources believe Conca would secure a healthier pay day should he emerge on the open market.
Conca's season ended in a shattering manner when he tore his hamstring early in the elimination-final loss. He went for scans on Monday morning. ''It's not great. Obviously, we went in with pretty high expectations,'' Conca said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-contract-fight-20130909-2tg3x.html#ixzz2ePcpxDm6
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stuff him off.
Soft prick.
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stuff him off.
Soft prick.
Yep
Very replaceable
Trade for an inside
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Trade for Eagles 1st pick keep that and trade pick 11 to GWS for Adams who is basically the same player
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350 is a reasonable price
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
Waiting for Martin?
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
:clapping
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I know there's been mention of Conca tearing his hammy, but is there any info on the extent of the tear, how long he'll be out etc.
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I know there's been mention of Conca tearing his hammy, but is there any info on the extent of the tear, how long he'll be out etc.
He won't play again this year
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I'd happily pay this bloke $350k. More so than I'd pay Dusty $600k
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I know there's been mention of Conca tearing his hammy, but is there any info on the extent of the tear, how long he'll be out etc.
He won't play again this year
:lol :lol
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I know there's been mention of Conca tearing his hammy, but is there any info on the extent of the tear, how long he'll be out etc.
He won't play again this year
:lol I mean will he have full half maybe even no pre season?
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
surely we aren't at the edge of the cap? surely its too keep room for free agents?
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
surely we aren't at the edge of the cap? surely its too keep room for free agents?
I'm thinking that too. Two years ago we were paying like 92% now we are over. It's all about free agency. Maybe making a play for Dale Thomas? :shh
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350 is a reasonable price
I agree. 350k is spot on for Conca IMHO. If the club cant pay him that then they have stuffed up the payscale at Richmond.
surely we aren't at the edge of the cap? surely its too keep room for free agents?
youre right it is to bring in more free agents but Conca is still worth 350k so somewhere some players are being overpaid and the payscale is in question.
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If we are already over paying and carlton can offer 800k a year to daisy then we may as well give up
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350 is a reasonable price
Hawks pay Mitchell 350k
What-Conca's better?
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350 is a reasonable price
Hawks pay Mitchell 350k
What-Conca's better?
That's a rare scenario
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Richmond reportedly offering Reece Conca reduced contract to stay at Punt Road
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
September 11, 2013 11:07PM
REECE Conca wants to stay at Richmond, but his loyalty will cost him.
Club and player remain apart in talks, but industry sources said Conca would have to accept significantly less to stay at Punt Rd than he could get on the open market.
Richmond continues to hold firm play hardball with the West Australian’s manager Colin Young, refusing to budge on an offer it made about six months ago.
It is believed several rival clubs are staggered by the amount Conca is being asked to accept and have made inquiries.
His manager, Colin Young, was reluctant to comment on Wednesday, but said reports Conca was chasing a $350,000-a-year deal at Punt Rd werewell wide of the mark.
Former Richmond assistant David King, now a leading football analyst, said the Tigers could not afford to lose Conca.
“As a true midfielder, only Trent Cotchin will be ahead of him at Richmond in 20 games’ time,” King said. “I think he’s a Jimmy Bartel-style player; he just gets the job done. They don’t look flamboyant, but what they do is brilliant.”
Conca was to meet coach Damien Hardwick this week before a second check-up on the hamstring he tore against Carlton on Sunday.
It is understood he has requested a small increase, and negotiations are expected to come to a head in the next two weeks.
Conca, 21, has played 52 games since being taken with pick No.6 in the 2010 national draft and was highly promising this year despite suffering a stress reaction in his right foot.
The delay in re-signing him comes as teammate Dustin Martin edges closer to ending his drawn-out contract saga.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-reportedly-offering-reece-conca-reduced-contract-to-stay-at-punt-road/story-fndv8t7m-1226717252852
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stuff David King and the pillow biter he rode in on.
Conca can stuff off too.
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I'm not sure we can compare him to Jimmy Bartel but his more than half the player that Lids is, more than 60% that Jack and Dusty are so paying him mid 300s doesn't exactly seem over the top.
The biggest knock on him is his body - hasn't had a full pre season due to injury and breaking down again during the season is a worry.
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TBH not sure how the HUN has come up with the title of the story. ;D
"reportedly offering Reece Conca reduced contract to stay" :huh
I just take the story as Club's made an offer, he's manager's made a counter offer and there is a difference. Is the Club's offer less than what his current deal is worth, doubt it, the same? Possibly but less I doubt it
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Richmond reportedly offering Reece Conca reduced contract to stay at Punt Road
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
September 11, 2013 11:07PM
“As a true midfielder, only Trent Cotchin will be ahead of him at Richmond in 20 games’ time,” King said.."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-reportedly-offering-reece-conca-reduced-contract-to-stay-at-punt-road/story-fndv8t7m-1226717252852
:gobdrop
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It is believed several rival clubs are staggered by the amount Conca is being asked to accept and have made inquiries.
Gee, that doesn't sound like a manager feeding the media now does it? :wallywink
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When he improves his turnover rate, Only then he will be considered as worthy
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TBH not sure how the HUN has come up with the title of the story. ;D
"reportedly offering Reece Conca reduced contract to stay" :huh
I just take the story as Club's made an offer, he's manager's made a counter offer and there is a difference. Is the Club's offer less than what his current deal is worth, doubt it, the same? Possibly but less I doubt it
Doesn't make sense, surely they mean vs other clubs offers
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Sign him up now
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Geez he only wants $350. Definitely worth it.
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Tigers hope Conca will be fit for full pre-season
By Jennifer Phelan
2:15pm AEST Thursday, September 12, 2013
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca is expected to take part in nearly a full pre-season, despite being scheduled for surgery to repair the hamstring tendon he injured against Carlton on Sunday.
The 21-year-old was subbed out of the Tigers' loss to the Blues in the first quarter after hurting his left hamstring at the 12-minute mark.
He pulled up suddenly on the city-side wing and grabbed at a spot high on his left leg before being helped from the field.
While the tendon is not off the bone, he has been scheduled to have an operation to repair "disruption" that will sideline him from running for at least a month.
"He'll be able to jog after four weeks but then the running progression would be quite slow," elite performance manager Peter Burge told AFL.com.au.
"In my experience of these, they're probably doing controlled football type stuff in rehab at about anywhere from eight to 10 weeks.
"I think he'll get a really good conditioning block with the rehab phase with the injury, and I can't see it really affecting his pre-season too much."
The first to four-year players will return to training in the first week of November, with Conca – who remains out of contract with the Tigers – to be close to a full program around that time.
He is likely to be in a position to merge into the main training group in December.
Burge said the severity of the injury surprised the Richmond fitness staff given Conca has not had problems with his hamstrings before.
He also said the tendon could have been left to heal on its own, but surgery would likely produce a better outcome.
"He's the last person we expected that to happen to, and so early in the game," Burge said.
"It's pretty disappointing because it was unexpected. There was nothing leading up to it that indicated that he had any sort of issue.
"Tendons behave in a very random manner sometimes.
"It may have healed without surgery but the surgeons just thought it would be easier to go in and do a little repair just to make sure it heals well,” Burge added.
"Just getting a couple of stitches makes it nice and strong, and it's actually almost a quicker way of getting them going again."
The procedure is similar to the one defender Dylan Grimes had in November after his own battles with hamstring problems.
Burge said there were no other major surgeries scheduled with the Tigers poised to be in good shape when they returned to training.
"We'll be in a better position this year," he said.
"When I started in October, November last year, we had quite a few guys who were having things done.
"We've got a lot less this year and we'll be in a stronger position with our pre-season."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-12/concas-2014-not-hamstrung
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When he improves his turnover rate, Only then he will be considered as worthy
when he can find a decent amount of ball as well.and get some awareness.
fair dinkum they can talk up potential all they want but his performances hdont warrant a large pay packet.
along with vickery griffiths rance a nd a few others he is terribly over rated and has much to do to warrant the hype.
he should become a good player i believe we need to build on what good players we have and build some proper depth not trade them out or lose them over contract disputes.
how hard is it to pay him what hes currently worth and add kpis in so as he reaches those kpis his income goes up with it.
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He can't ask for too much as his injury is very bad. Lets say it's Grimes like. Don't ask me how I know. May play into our hands.
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how do you know?
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how do you know?
I told you not to ask me that!
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:shh
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Not true. Someone else is having surgery on Thursday......
He is known as a sook!
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Not true. Someone else is having surgery on Thursday......
He is known as a sook!
Burge didn't say there were no other players going in for surgeries just that they weren't any majors ;D
Think you'll find a few going in for clean ups over the next few weeks
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He can't ask for too much as his injury is very bad. Lets say it's Grimes like. Don't ask me how I know. May play into our hands.
The article I posted on the other Conca thread (wanted to keep the contract stuff separate) from the AFL site actually says it like the Grimes surgery last November, not the reattachment of the tendon to the bone but like the 2nd one repairing a nasty tear ;D
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Jay Clark @ClarkyHeraldSun twitter:
"West Coast say they're not pursuing Reece Conca."
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He can't ask for too much as his injury is very bad. Lets say it's Grimes like. Don't ask me how I know. May play into our hands.
The article I posted on the other Conca thread (wanted to keep the contract stuff separate) from the AFL site actually says it like the Grimes surgery last November, not the reattachment of the tendon to the bone but like the 2nd one repairing a nasty tear ;D
:lol Don't ruin his source
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He can't ask for too much as his injury is very bad. Lets say it's Grimes like. Don't ask me how I know. May play into our hands.
The article I posted on the other Conca thread (wanted to keep the contract stuff separate) from the AFL site actually says it like the Grimes surgery last November, not the reattachment of the tendon to the bone but like the 2nd one repairing a nasty tear ;D
:lol Don't ruin his source
Well my source is better than the clubs!
Injury not as bad as I had first thought but worse than the club described. Will be off for a month before commencing any running. Will be a little behind in preseason preparation.
He and Dusty have agreed to terms but have not put pen to paper.
That is all.........
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Well my source is better than the clubs!
:boxer :boxer
No doubt it is ;) ;)
:shh :shh
:rollin :lol ;D
:thumbsup
Injury not as bad as I had first thought but worse than the club described. Will be off for a month before commencing any running. Will be a little behind in preseason preparation.
hmm that's basically what the clubs article says but anyway :rollin
He and Dusty have agreed to terms but have not put pen to paper.
That is all.........
:bow :bow
:jump :dancing :dancing :highclap :highclap :biglaugh
;D
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YBB, if WP's source is Chutney, then you must be serving up Caviar. ;D
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Well we shouldn't have any trouble retaining Conca in light of dusty's betrayal.
And chase a free agent too IMO.
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conca. lol
a real match winner we have there
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conca. lol
a real match winner we have there
Very handy player there daniel. More than happy to have him. :thumbsup
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Well we shouldn't have any trouble retaining Conca in light of dusty's betrayal.
And chase a free agent too IMO.
What does one have to do with the other if we have a strict payment structure in place at the club?
With Dusty gone, that money can be used on other recruits not throwing more money at Conca in a panic
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I rate Conca higher then Martin and more important to our engine room.
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Don't let this turn as badly as negotiations have with Martin
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conca. lol
a real match winner we have there
Do tell.
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I rate Conca higher then Martin and more important to our engine room.
Hopes a wonderful thing
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According to BF, Fox News said Conca will sign within the week.
Langdon on 6PR tonight said Reece has offers also from both WA clubs plus another from a club on the eastern seaboard which is offering the most in terms of $$$. So it's a question of loyalty to Richmond vs $$$ with a decision on Monday when he (more so his manager presumably) meets up with Richmond.
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Langdon got the Mick Malthouse going to coach Collingwood from West Coast right in 1999 and has been living off that.
BF stands for big fraud. Till I read it in the paper or see it on the news I am not convinced.
Hope he stays.
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According to BF, Fox News said Conca will sign within the week.
Langdon on 6PR tonight said Reece has offers also from both WA clubs plus another from a club on the eastern seaboard which is offering the most in terms of $$$. So it's a question of loyalty to Richmond vs $$$ with a decision on Monday when he (more so his manager presumably) meets up with Richmond.
As I reported earlier, Reece has agreed to terms with our club.
The club was going to announce this with Dusty's signing this week until the latest fiasco unfolded.
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Richmond is also still at a stalemate over a new deal for defender Reece Conca, who is fielding a large offer from Fremantle to return home to Perth.
It is understood the Dockers have offered Conca a four-year deal on significant terms.
Conca has begun to think about a return home. He and Martin are both out of contract but are not free agents.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-face-losing-martin-20130916-2tu2q.html#ixzz2f4LotIHo
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No problem with this.
What's in it for us?
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Yep good riddons easily replaced
Another selfish idiot
1 finals in 12 yrs and players are wanting to leave
Something's gone wrong at our club in the drafting of these fools
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Yep good riddons easily replaced
Another selfish stuffer
1 finals in 12 yrs and players are wanting to leave
Something's gone wrong at our club in the drafting of these fools
:lol :lol :lol
Why's he selfish exactly? because of a newspaper article that is speculating?
Has his manager done a Carr? No
And if he stays? Is he still selfish?
What sort of reaction can we expect from you? Will you whack the club for re-signing him, whack the kid for staying or just bag him for the sake of it?
before we start throwing another one under the bus lets see what happens ;D
Thanks to the Dusty mess the media certainly have got Tiger fans under a spell :rollin
Arghhhhhhhhh the off season most entertaining time of the year ;D
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Not good news. The club needs to act decisively. It has allowed the negotiations to go on too long. If he is after a modest pay increase give it to him.
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I really hope you are right
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His had how many months to sign
If he was fair dinkum about playing for our club he would've signed and hasn't
As I said good riddons never rated him as a top pick and still don't. Would be happy to trade him out
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Just announce it already then.
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Now bracing myself for this idiot to come out and say he s going home :o
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If he does will people still be spruiking about how good a character he is?
1 final in 12 years, first time we get our heads above water and we have 2 young talents who started the journey with us asking for more and more
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. sorry having trouble with my computer
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do tell will :)
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do tell will :)
sorry having major probs with my computer
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Its normal for players out of contract with their managers to talk to every club after the season.
Otherwise why would you need a manager for. Everyone jumping out of their skins just because reports of offers.
Just like our club has approached managers of players out of contract at Scum, Aints, Skunks,
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I'm embarrassed the Age called him a defender
:facepalm
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Conca is easily replaceable if we can get a first rounder for him i'd do it no problem.
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New territory for our club.
Since I can remember the only 'decent' players to have lost are Maxfield and Ottens. Shows how pathetic we have been that no otehr club has bothered to try and take a Richmond player. All of a sudden we now have an issue of keeping our players away from other clubs grubby hands. Need to manage this well and we should be right. All comes with having a good list. Conca will stay
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Its normal for players out of contract with their managers to talk to every club after the season.
Otherwise why would you need a manager for. Everyone jumping out of their skins just because reports of offers.
Just like our club has approached managers of players out of contract at Scum, Aints, Skunks,
It is, but its not normal when negotiations drag out for almost an entire season. Managers wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't shop around and get a feel of market value, but when it drags on for this long, theres more to it than just posturing
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Conca is easily replaceable if we can get a first rounder for him i'd do it no problem.
He turns the ball over, reminds me of a Jackson type footballer.
Would not be concerned if he choose to go back home. Richmond need to stick with Victorian talent & learn from past mistakes of drafting. But in saying that one of my favourite footballers in Victoria fell to home sickness :lol
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Conca is easily replaceable if we can get a first rounder for him i'd do it no problem.
He turns the ball over, reminds me of a Jackson type footballer.
Would not be concerned if he choose to go back home. Richmond need to stick with Victorian talent & learn from past mistakes of drafting. But in saying that one of my favourite footballers in Victoria fell to home sickness :lol
D Mac?
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He does want to go home eventually but told his team mates that he would here for at least another contract. Hope he hasn't changed his mind... People under rate his importance to our midfield depth. He is a no frills ball winner who has good foot skills. He will only get better so losing him would be a bigger loss for mine than Martin.
We need to change our focus from Dusty's contract to his now.
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It is, but its not normal when negotiations drag out for almost an entire season. Managers wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't shop around and get a feel of market value, but when it drags on for this long, theres more to it than just posturing
But Conca have "dragged out for almost the entire season"
Martin's yes but Conca's no
Start of the season the CLub had 3 re-signing priorities = Cotchin, Reiwoldt and Martin. Two of the three are done.
Conca was not a priority. I'd go as far as to say they have only been seriously negotiating since mid-late July that's not even 2 months
Players don't accept the first offer thrown at them. It rarely happens
Manager says we want, club says our offer is and a way we go. They talk with the aim of reaching agreement. It's called negotiating. It can be tough and seeing it's a business it can drag out
If Conca or any other player chooses to leave then so be it but let's not crucify him or any other player until a deal is done either way
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Finally getting a team together and we get pillaged :banghead
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It is, but its not normal when negotiations drag out for almost an entire season. Managers wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't shop around and get a feel of market value, but when it drags on for this long, theres more to it than just posturing
But Conca have "dragged out for almost the entire season"
Martin's yes but Conca's no
Start of the season the CLub had 3 re-signing priorities = Cotchin, Reiwoldt and Martin. Two of the three are done.
Conca was not a priority. I'd go as far as to say they have only been seriously negotiating since mid-late July that's not even 2 months
Players don't accept the first offer thrown at them. It rarely happens
Manager says we want, club says our offer is and a way we go. They talk with the aim of reaching agreement. It's called negotiating. It can be tough and seeing it's a business it can drag out
If Conca or any other player chooses to leave then so be it but let's not crucify him or any other player until a deal is done either way
when did Ellis sign? It was at that time that we started looking to tie up players of Concas ilk. Stand to be corrected but am sure its been for a fair chunk of the season
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when did Ellis sign? It was at that time that we started looking to tie up players of Concas ilk. Stand to be corrected but am sure its been for a fair chunk of the season
June/July I think. But Ellis is one of the rare ones, he accepted the first offer, ditto Rance and couple of others
They may have opened talks early in the season but the question remains when did the real negoiations start. My guess is after they re-signed Jack which wasn't that long ago
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New territory for our club.
Since I can remember the only 'decent' players to have lost are Maxfield and Ottens.
What about Plapp, Patto, Tambo, Polo and Gus?? ;D
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New territory for our club.
Since I can remember the only 'decent' players to have lost are Maxfield and Ottens.
What about Plapp, Patto, Tambo, Polo and Gus?? ;D
jayschulzhanger.gif
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Ellis and Vlastuin didn't even ask their managers what the club had offered. They just said 'tell the club yes, no matter how much, I want to stay here'.
Leaders right there.
These other tools can get lost somewhat.
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New territory for our club.
Since I can remember the only 'decent' players to have lost are Maxfield and Ottens.
What about Plapp, Patto, Tambo, Polo and Gus?? ;D
jayschulzhanger.gif
;D :thumbsup
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imo the most disappointing aspect of the whole conca martin thing is we dont have good midfield depth. with tuck retiring the need was still great to add to the midfield with quality. if both conca and martin go the situation becomes dire.
cotchin - 23yo development A
deledio - 26YO MATURE A/B
Vlastuin - 19yo junior. potentially a very good player if not elite. based on potential B.
Arnot - 20yo junior. will he make it or not. if he does hes a foot slodier
S Edwards - 25yo mature C at the absolute best and thats borderline. Played his best footy as a forward imo and regularly struggles as a mid.
Ellis - 20yo junior development. looks a good player may become v/good. based on potential C/B
Foley - 28yo senior really struggled with form and fitness for a few yrs now. atm C. It is fair to ask will he get back close to his best.
Grigg - 26yo senior good in some areas terrible in others he barely passes muster C.
HELBIG - 22yo Development, is currently under pressure to keep his spot. BS/C Does have the tools top play at AFL level but can he translate potential into performance.
Jackson - 28yo senior. no comment dont want to start argumments. we all rate players differently. for arguments sake and in recognition of a good yr ill give him a pass or C.
Knights - 27yo senior. hasnt played much thru the midfield for a long time. when fit hes a good player C. just have to question his durability.
Lonergan - 27yo senior BS which means below standard.
mcdonough - 20yo junior sml forward who we hope can become a part of midfield rotations.
Nahas - 26yo senior BS.
Newman - 31 yo veteran whose best is behind him should retire imo. has never spent much tiime as a mid though he has become a part of rotations this yr.
Verrier - 20 yo junior hbf who may become a mid shocking foot skills should be delisted.BS
White - see jackson hes very bvery limited but again for arguments sake C.
Williams - 19yo junior rookie. does have some real good attributes to work with will he make it or wont he.
In all honesty i can sit here and ask where is the quality. we probably have numbers but no quality out side two mature players and a few kids who are 1st or second yr players.what hurts is we have just gotten to the point where we can build a bit of midfield depth and this happens.
we cant afford to lose the likes of martin and conca we should be building on them with more quality and finding genuine depth..
imo and dont get the knickers in a knot its only opinion but we should be looking for better than about half of that list.
lose those two and we had damn well better target 3 or 4 quality mids this coming trrade draft period. if we lose em both we had better make sure we are compensated enough to allow us to target quality players to replace em.
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i can feel your boner from here claw
your favourite time of year :clapping
thank god we didn't go further than week 1 of finals ;D
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I feel like I've read this before.
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I feel like I've read this before.
Get. Out.
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cmon you lot.
theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids. along with the retirement of possibly our best inside mid surely its pertinent to ask where it leaves us as far as depth and quality in the midfield goes.
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Don't forget we have Lonergan and matt Thomas coming :shh woah
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
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cmon you lot.
theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids. along with the retirement of possibly our best inside mid surely its pertinent to ask where it leaves us as far as depth and quality in the midfield goes.
You wish Mr Negative!!! Am 95% sure we will retain both of these young mids, especially Reecey Conca. All part of the posturing when contracts are due for renegotiation. Both will be there next year IMO
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Don't forget we have Lonergan and matt Thomas coming :shh woah
Woah. :lol :rollin :lol
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What I notice with your post Claw is the enourmous age gap we have there from 20 to 26
With 2 mid fielders in it Helbig and Cotchin (minus Martin and Conca). That in itself must be a worry for our list management and as I've said before you can never have enough mid fielders. Our list this year though it has depth and is better than before its not great and we have an obvious lack of depth in the Ruck.
Now Claw points out we have an age gap in our midfield.
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as I've said before you can never have enough mid fielders.
Let's delist everyone over 190cm tall and draft more mids!
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Now it's The Eagles but it is an article from Kim Hagdorn who's record isn't great ;D
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West Coast Eagles ramp up chase for Richmond midfielder Reece Conca
by: Kim Hagdorn
From: PerthNow
September 18, 2013 11:12AM
WEST Coast Eagles management has intensified attempts to lure Richmond midfield young gun Reece Conca.
Conca, 21, is in the market for lucrative four-year deal in the region of $300,000 a season if he chooses to continue his blossoming AFL career back in his home state after 52 games with Richmond since he was a top-10 draft pick at the end of 2010.
The nippy and skilful ball-handler is believed to have attracted interest from up to a dozen other AFL clubs as doubts rise that Conca will stay a Tiger.
And West Coast has also jumped into the race to sign disgruntled Brisbane utility Elliott Yeo.
Yeo, 19, was scheduled to meet with Eagles management in Perth today as he considers his future after a roller-coaster 2013 at the Lions that included the sacking of senior coach and Lions legend Michael Voss late into August.
Yeo and Conca are Western Australian football products and fit the Eagles recruiting model targeting fast and gifted midfielders in ambitious plans to rebound as a potential finals force as early as next season after West Coast grossly under-achieved this season with just nine wins and finishing 13th on the AFL premiership ladder.
Fremantle officials are also expected to approach Conca and Yeo after this month’s premiership campaign.
Conca has been linked with a possible four-year deal at Fremantle.
Plans for his playing future are expected to become clearer when the Dockers conclude their history-breaking finals campaign over the next fortnight.
Conca is a frontline Eagles recruiting target despite mounting likelihood that star on-baller Dustin Martin will leave the Tigers.
West Coast is understood to have ruled out any prospect of joining the race to secure Martin.
The highly talented but often troublesome Martin and his manager Ralph Carr are insisting on at least $600,000 a season over four years and have rejected as much as $520,000 from Tigers management.
With serious doubts Martin will stay at Richmond, the classy Conca has become a hot property signing.
West Coast is also understood to have lost interest in luring Carlton speedster and WA product Chris Yarran in their recruiting drive for top midfielders and dashing line-breakers.
Conca and his manager Colin Young are believed to already have held preliminary discussions with Eagles football operations boss Craig Vozzo.
A trade deal for Conca’s switch to West Coast will prove a tough negotiation with the Tigers likely to insist on the Eagles first round draft pick at number six and potentially even another player in the swap.
Conca was taken at No.6 three years back and is considered a star on-baller in the making at Richmond as the Tigers continue to build toward sustained finals after an inglorious exit from the opening week of the premiership play-off series this month in a shocking second half fadeout to staunch rival Carlton.
Conca had minor surgery late last week to a torn hamstring he suffered in the opening five minutes of his finals appearance against the Blues.
He is expected to be fully recovered in time to start a new pre-season in mid-November.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast-eagles-ramp-up-chase-for-richmond-midfielder-reece-conca/story-fndv8w9k-1226721831700
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West Coast and Freo trying to outbid each other could be handy. Sounds like we could be potentially very busy this trade period. Getting another first rounder for Conca or Martin on top of the one we have and we could nearly lock in being able to get Adams and someone like Longer.
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Now it's The Eagles but it is an article from Kim Langdon who's record isn't great ;D
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West Coast Eagles ramp up chase for Richmond midfielder Reece Conca
by: Kim Hagdorn
From: PerthNow
September 18, 2013 11:12AM
WEST Coast Eagles management has intensified attempts to lure Richmond midfield young gun Reece Conca.
Conca, 21, is in the market for lucrative four-year deal in the region of $300,000 a season if he chooses to continue his blossoming AFL career back in his home state after 52 games with Richmond since he was a top-10 draft pick at the end of 2010.
The nippy and skilful ball-handler is believed to have attracted interest from up to a dozen other AFL clubs as doubts rise that Conca will stay a Tiger.
And West Coast has also jumped into the race to sign disgruntled Brisbane utility Elliott Yeo.
Yeo, 19, was scheduled to meet with Eagles management in Perth today as he considers his future after a roller-coaster 2013 at the Lions that included the sacking of senior coach and Lions legend Michael Voss late into August.
Yeo and Conca are Western Australian football products and fit the Eagles recruiting model targeting fast and gifted midfielders in ambitious plans to rebound as a potential finals force as early as next season after West Coast grossly under-achieved this season with just nine wins and finishing 13th on the AFL premiership ladder.
Fremantle officials are also expected to approach Conca and Yeo after this month’s premiership campaign.
Conca has been linked with a possible four-year deal at Fremantle.
Plans for his playing future are expected to become clearer when the Dockers conclude their history-breaking finals campaign over the next fortnight.
Conca is a frontline Eagles recruiting target despite mounting likelihood that star on-baller Dustin Martin will leave the Tigers.
West Coast is understood to have ruled out any prospect of joining the race to secure Martin.
The highly talented but often troublesome Martin and his manager Ralph Carr are insisting on at least $600,000 a season over four years and have rejected as much as $520,000 from Tigers management.
With serious doubts Martin will stay at Richmond, the classy Conca has become a hot property signing.
West Coast is also understood to have lost interest in luring Carlton speedster and WA product Chris Yarran in their recruiting drive for top midfielders and dashing line-breakers.
Conca and his manager Colin Young are believed to already have held preliminary discussions with Eagles football operations boss Craig Vozzo.
A trade deal for Conca’s switch to West Coast will prove a tough negotiation with the Tigers likely to insist on the Eagles first round draft pick at number six and potentially even another player in the swap.
Conca was taken at No.6 three years back and is considered a star on-baller in the making at Richmond as the Tigers continue to build toward sustained finals after an inglorious exit from the opening week of the premiership play-off series this month in a shocking second half fadeout to staunch rival Carlton.
Conca had minor surgery late last week to a torn hamstring he suffered in the opening five minutes of his finals appearance against the Blues.
He is expected to be fully recovered in time to start a new pre-season in mid-November.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast-eagles-ramp-up-chase-for-richmond-midfielder-reece-conca/story-fndv8w9k-1226721831700
This is the same Kimmy who earlier this year said Rance's contract negotiations were in limbo without realising Rance had already re-signed :stupid.
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Kim Hagdorn or Karl Langdon ?
Would hate to assess the DNA and mental ability of that combo. ;D
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Surely if Martin is going then there would be more money to pay Conca without breaching the salary cap?
Midfield is crucial, and if RFC management is willing to let resources go, then I question their thought processes.
Surely if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Every day this drags out I am less confident he will stay, and I hate that.
As someone said earlier, the concacuddle should stay at RFC.
He seems a genuine guy but all this fighting for more money makes me doubt that.
I am also worried about the content of the apparent meeting with Hardwick held last week.
There were all these articles about the Tiges "confident of re-signing both Martin and Conca" but it's looking like neither will happen now.
Not sure I believe anything any more. :-\
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Richo reckons Conca will be at the club, according to the Talking Tigers podcast!
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Richo reckons Conca will be at the club, according to the Talking Tigers podcast!
What did he say about dusty ?
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Richo reckons Conca will be at the club, according to the Talking Tigers podcast!
What did he say about dusty ?
Not much, sounded disappointed by the tone of his voice. Hopes that he will stay.
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
just coming from a worst case scenario point of view wp . every day the martin and conca conflict drags on the more and more likely it seems that is what will happen. surely we have to look at it from the lowest point as suppporters and god forbid as a club
if the club are not looking at ways to make a real negative into a win they are not arent doing their job.
and yes i reralise most on here rate the players and list greater than i do hence most of the run ins i have. have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
gotta ask ya wp without tuck martin and conca do we have enough quality midfs and decent depth in that area. simple answer is a resounding no we were light on this yr and have been blessed with no injuries.it was an area that had to be built on even if we keep those mentioned.
our club recognised this they were after adams even before the contract problems.
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Surely if Martin is going then there would be more money to pay Conca without breaching the salary cap?
Where did you come up with the idea we are anywhere near breaching the salary cap? :-\
Both players have been offered contracts. they wouldn't have beenoffered contracts if they couldn't afford them within the salary cap
there is a huge difference with offers being about what a player is worth and about to go over the salary cap.
Club have made it clear they have strict payment policy which seems to include the ideal of not paying "overs". That doesn't mean in anyway, shape or form that they are about to go over the salary cap
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
just coming from a worst case scenario point of view wp . every day the martin and conca conflict drags on the more and more likely it seems that is what will happen. surely we have to look at it from the lowest point as suppporters and god forbid as a club
if the club are not looking at ways to make a real negative into a win they are not arent doing their job.
and yes i reralise most on here rate the players and list greater than i do hence most of the run ins i have. have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
gotta ask ya wp without tuck martin and conca do we have enough quality midfs and decent depth in that area. simple answer is a resounding no we were light on this yr and have been blessed with no injuries.it was an area that had to be built on even if we keep those mentioned.
our club recognised this they were after adams even before the contract problems.
im sure the club has already planned for any number of scenarios.
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
just coming from a worst case scenario point of view wp . every day the martin and conca conflict drags on the more and more likely it seems that is what will happen. surely we have to look at it from the lowest point as suppporters and god forbid as a club
if the club are not looking at ways to make a real negative into a win they are not arent doing their job.
and yes i reralise most on here rate the players and list greater than i do hence most of the run ins i have. have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
gotta ask ya wp without tuck martin and conca do we have enough quality midfs and decent depth in that area. simple answer is a resounding no we were light on this yr and have been blessed with no injuries.it was an area that had to be built on even if we keep those mentioned.
our club recognised this they were after adams even before the contract problems.
im sure the club has already planned for any number of scenarios.
have they TM. really?
I have no faith in anything they are doing at the moment.
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Surely if Martin is going then there would be more money to pay Conca without breaching the salary cap?
Where did you come up with the idea we are anywhere near breaching the salary cap? :-\
Articles like http://www.live-news.com.au/news/richmond-confident-it-will-retain-dustin-martin-and-reece-conca-1165379.html
and http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/salary-cap-squeeze-at-tigerland-makes-it-difficult-for-club-to-increase-two-year-offer-to-reece-conca/story-fni5f9jb-1226697356651
or is all of this journalistic lies?
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
just coming from a worst case scenario point of view wp . every day the martin and conca conflict drags on the more and more likely it seems that is what will happen. surely we have to look at it from the lowest point as suppporters and god forbid as a club
if the club are not looking at ways to make a real negative into a win they are not arent doing their job.
and yes i reralise most on here rate the players and list greater than i do hence most of the run ins i have. have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
gotta ask ya wp without tuck martin and conca do we have enough quality midfs and decent depth in that area. simple answer is a resounding no we were light on this yr and have been blessed with no injuries.it was an area that had to be built on even if we keep those mentioned.
our club recognised this they were after adams even before the contract problems.
im sure the club has already planned for any number of scenarios.
have they TM. really?
I have no faith in anything they are doing at the moment.
Im comfortable waiting to see how it pans out before we start thinking doom and gloom. We've done a lot right in recent times, I'm not losing faith in the clubs ability to make sure this works out well for us.
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Articles like http://www.live-news.com.au/news/richmond-confident-it-will-retain-dustin-martin-and-reece-conca-1165379.html
and http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/salary-cap-squeeze-at-tigerland-makes-it-difficult-for-club-to-increase-two-year-offer-to-reece-conca/story-fni5f9jb-1226697356651
or is all of this journalistic lies?
Well we haven't lost either of them yet. Time will tell.
And I totally believe we have no cap issues ATM. This too will be clarified later if/when we chase a juicy free agent or two, which I think is the case. We can't possibly be hitting the cap yet.
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Surely if Martin is going then there would be more money to pay Conca without breaching the salary cap?
Where did you come up with the idea we are anywhere near breaching the salary cap? :-\
The numerous journo's saying we are why do people keep asking :banghead :banghead
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Richo reckons Conca will be at the club, according to the Talking Tigers podcast!
Yep, Richo said he ran into Reece at the club this week and had a bit of a chat with him.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-18/talking-tigers-2013-postfinal
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Surely if Martin is going then there would be more money to pay Conca without breaching the salary cap?
Where did you come up with the idea we are anywhere near breaching the salary cap? :-\
Articles like http://www.live-news.com.au/news/richmond-confident-it-will-retain-dustin-martin-and-reece-conca-1165379.html
and http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/salary-cap-squeeze-at-tigerland-makes-it-difficult-for-club-to-increase-two-year-offer-to-reece-conca/story-fni5f9jb-1226697356651
or is all of this journalistic lies?
Again a massive difference between having a tight Salary cap and being about to breach it? Huge difference
Plus if we were so close to "breaching" the cap why would we have offered Martin & Conca and other players contracts all at the same time?
We are not about to breach the salary cap and if we were the AFL would be living at the club checking off every contract and offer
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theres a real chance we will lose two of our more highly rated young mids.
And there's a real chance we won't
So until we do and we get through FA and trade I think it's worth taking a depth breath and waiting to see what happens
Beside I think it's fair to say that some of us view our list depth as being in slightly better shape than you do claw :thumbsup
just coming from a worst case scenario point of view wp . every day the martin and conca conflict drags on the more and more likely it seems that is what will happen. surely we have to look at it from the lowest point as suppporters and god forbid as a club
if the club are not looking at ways to make a real negative into a win they are not arent doing their job.
and yes i reralise most on here rate the players and list greater than i do hence most of the run ins i have. have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
gotta ask ya wp without tuck martin and conca do we have enough quality midfs and decent depth in that area. simple answer is a resounding no we were light on this yr and have been blessed with no injuries.it was an area that had to be built on even if we keep those mentioned.
our club recognised this they were after adams even before the contract problems.
im sure the club has already planned for any number of scenarios.
surely they are doing nothing but sitting in a dark room bemoaning how bad things are like some over reactive, woe is me, intenet nuffer?
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His had how many months to sign
If he was fair dinkum about playing for our club he would've signed and hasn't
As I said good riddons never rated him as a top pick and still don't. Would be happy to trade him out
The word is "riddance" FFS not "riddons".
:cheers
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I have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
lol , according to you ! Persoanlly I'd say they've been a million miles from the mark.
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So he signed yeah?
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worrying about the Salary cap lol
They aint even done the chop chop yet & still talking contracts to player managers. They have applied to the AFL for help which all clubs do anyway. got to beg from them considering the Salary cap is not a even field among interstate clubs & AFL supported clubs. They would have room to fit players in. just they not paying players stupid contracts they asking cause non of them are worth that much.
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SEN earlier were claiming the Conca deal had been done for him to stay a tiger and it was to be announced today yet still no news yet?
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Chris Riches @chris8875 twitter:
"Reece Conca signs at @Richmond_FC for three years is what I am hearing - have we confirmation? Hope its true. #ConcaCuddlesForAll #Richmond"
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Good work, Chris :thumbsup
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it will be annouced tomorrow that he has signed.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/reece-conca-contract-negotiations-sen-reporting-conca-signed.1032635/page-10#post-30222569
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I have to say to date my assesments have never been far off the mark.
lol , according to you ! Persoanlly I'd say they've been a million miles from the mark.
lol.
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it will be annouced tomorrow that he has signed.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/reece-conca-contract-negotiations-sen-reporting-conca-signed.1032635/page-10#post-30222569
good news one down one to go. maybe then we can concentrate on getting another two or three decent mids to compliment them.
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Dusty has until tomorrow too.
It looks like the club wants to have one definitive press conference announcing who will go and who will stay.
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Fantastic Reece. Always thought he would stay. :highclap
I rate this kid very highly. :thumbsup
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Karl Langdon tonight on 3aw said Conca is the Eagles' target. Richmond and Conca still some distance away. He will leave if a deal is not made very soon.
So Reece must be re-signing :lol.
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Karl Langdon tonight on 3aw said Conca is the Eagles' target. Richmond and Conca still some distance away. He will leave if a deal is not made very soon.
So Reece must be re-signing :lol.
Karl Langdon got the Malthouse thing right that's one.
Karl Langdon has got a million other things wrong. :ROTFL
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Karl Langdon tonight on 3aw said Conca is the Eagles' target. Richmond and Conca still some distance away. He will leave if a deal is not made very soon.
So Reece must be re-signing :lol.
big Karl. :clapping
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Karl Longdong
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Karl Wangdon
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Kurled LongDung
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:bow
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LOL this reminds of many years ago when john lennon was asked by a reporter to comment on rocker Todd rundgren and john lennon said..oh you mean turd runtgreen
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Todd is awesome
Lennon's the guy that was banging the ugly chungol
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:lol
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RICHMOND has re-signed promising midfielder Reece Conca on a three-year deal as it plays hard ball with mercurial talent Dustin Martin.
... the signing of Conca is a major boost to Richmond, given his contract negotiations had threatened to turn nasty.
The 21-year-old former No.6 draft pick was being linked to Fremantle, but has been rated by former Richmond assistant coach David King as the Tigers’ second-most important midfielder behind captain Trent Cotchin.
The three-year deal ties Conca to Punt Rd until the end the of 2016.
“It was never in doubt that I would re-sign with Richmond,’’ Conca said.
“It was just a matter of sorting through the details. I am very grateful for the opportunity the club has given me and I am excited about what the future holds.’’
Coach Damien Hardwick said the club was excited to have secured Conca.
“Reece took his game to another level in 2013, and, at just 21 years of age, we believe he still has plenty of improvement in him.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/out-of-contract-richmond-star-dustin-martin-jets-out-for-sydney/story-fnfll94y-1226722549552
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:clapping
So happy!
Well done, Conca Truck.
:gotigers
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I Concur Reece
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Official now - on the CLub's web-site
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Conca commits
Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au
6:37am AEST Friday, September 20, 2013
Rising star midfielder Reece Conca has signed a new three-year deal with Richmond, which will see him remain a Tiger at least until the end of 2016.
Conca took another impressive step in his league football development during the 2013 season, playing 17 games and kicking 12 goals.
Since being taken by the Tigers at selection No. 6 overall in the 2010 National Draft, Conca has played 52 games and averaged 18 disposals per match.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-09-20/conca-commits
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Well done Conca. Brilliant news
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Absolutly rapped on this :clapping and so will Reece in a couple of years. Shame Dustin may miss out :banghead ohh well
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Todd is awesome
Lennon's the guy that was banging the ugly chungol
makes me cringe all them screaming girls he had & he picked that ;D it was the END of the band
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Me so happy, get over the hammy, strong preseason and into it.
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Great news for the club & fans that the Conca has signed. Had some good offers from WA clubs. Was surprised the way this lad was drafted & he has proven why. Just needs to brush up his turnovers & stay away from Edwards & Jackson lol
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Perth red wog :bow
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One down, one to go!
:cheers
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:dogdance
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:veryhappy
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I've been waiting for those who wanted Reece gone to post a few of these
:chuck :chuck :chuck
:facepalm :facepalm
:outtahere :outtahere
;D
Me?
I reckon one of these is in order
:dancing
:cheers :thumbsup
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:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Never in doubt 8)
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Never in doubt 8)
That's what I said ;D
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Very good Tiga! :clapping
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Very good Tiga! :clapping
:lol thanks Smokey, I've only just worked it out
I'm a :wallywink
Sorry tiga :clapping
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was always worth keeping.
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VIDEOS:
Conca commits ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-20/conca-commits
The Best of Reece ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-20/conca-clips
Conca over the moon
By richmondfc.com.au
3:47pm AEST Friday, September 20, 2013
From Reece Conca’s perspective, it was always a question of when, rather than if, he’d sign a new contract with Richmond.
The talented young midfielder put pen to paper this week, committing to the Tigers for at least a further three seasons.
“I’m really happy,” Conca told ‘Roar Vision’.
“I just wanted to try and get it done as quickly as possible.
“It sort of dragged on a bit towards the end of the season, but as soon as footy finished, I just wanted to get it done. So, I’m over the moon about it.”
“I’ll be back running, hopefully, in three or four weeks and I won’t miss too much of the pre-season, which is really good news.”
Read more here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-09-20/conca-over-the-moon
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Now we need to make sure over the next 3 years we make him never want to leave.
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Pretty confident a premiership might achieve that. :thumbsup
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Pretty confident a premiership might achieve that. :thumbsup
Hope your right old fella cause we wanna see one soon :thumbsup ;D
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Pretty confident a premiership might achieve that. :thumbsup
Hope your right old fella cause we wanna see one soon :thumbsup ;D
Yep, we're both getting a bit long in the tooth to risk another 30 year drought! :help. :gotigers
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWwEZ_0CIAAJuDl.png:large)
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Reece has got the full thick red-orange beard going ............................ on a 32 degree day :badidea
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/800/2013/11/27/308538.jpg)
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202013%20Training%20-%20Richmond%20271113&image_id=308562
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Grigg looks to have beefed up a bit too..should make WP happy.. :lol
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Reece has got the full thick red-orange beard going ............................ on a 32 degree day :badidea
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/800/2013/11/27/308538.jpg)
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202013%20Training%20-%20Richmond%20271113&image_id=308562
keeps your face cooler when out in the heat, as well as protects it from the sun.
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Conca raring to go for round one after two operations
Jennifer Phelan
December 6, 2013 7:00 AM
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca is confident he'll be fit to play in round one after hamstring and ankle surgery at the end of the Tigers' season.
The 21-year-old tore his left hamstring tendon 12 minutes into the Tigers' elimination final loss to Carlton in September.
He had an operation to repair the tendon, which wasn't off the bone but was partially torn, after dramatically breaking down on the wing early in the final.
Then, a week later, he went back into the hospital to have an extra bone fragment shaved off his right heel; a procedure he had on his left foot a few years ago because of a genetic abnormality that causes a condition called os trigonum syndrome.
While he's not in full training yet and doesn't expect to be until the second week of the Tigers' post-Christmas program, he believes he'll play at least one – possibly two – NAB Challenge games before the premiership season starts.
"I'm pretty confident with where I am at the moment but I've still got a fair way to go," Conca told AFL.com.au this week.
"I'm probably on target. It's just more of a temperamental thing, the hamstring.
"Some days it can be feeling really good and some days, not so good.
"It's probably going a little bit slower than I anticipated but it's still December so there's no real rush."
Conca admits his experience with soft tissue injuries is limited, having mainly battled foot stress fractures throughout his career.
The hamstring tendon injury is similar to one reigning best and fairest winner Daniel Jackson experienced earlier in his career, and the two players had the same surgeon perform the repair.
Conca acknowledges his hamstring strength has never been high but believes in the positives of the injury, given it has handed him a new project going into his fourth season.
"One thing we can gain from this is that it's one focus that I've got with my body and I can build on that now," he said.
"I can focus more on my leg strength and I'm a bit more aware of it.
"It obviously didn't come at the best time but I've had the off-season to recover and it's not all doom and gloom."
Conca will return home to Perth for Christmas before the Tigers come back to training on January 6.
He'll ease into the program and then ramp things up ahead of the NAB Challenge, which the Tigers start on February 14 against Melbourne.
Their second game is against Collingwood on February 22 before their home-and-away season starts on March 15 against Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium.
Conca admitted his most recent layoff had been frustrating but was optimistic his pre-season would accelerate in the New Year.
"I'm a pretty eager person so I thought I'd just be bounding back into training but it's a little bit of a slower process than that," he said.
"It's more with the strength side of the hamstring. My fitness and everything else is going really good.
"I'm still on target and I'll be back full training post-Christmas so I'm only four to six weeks away, which is encouraging because that's when it all starts to crank up."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-06/round-one-in-concas-sights
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Injured every year.
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Injured every year.
Still a great red-sandgroping-wog in my eyes
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Injured every year.
Still a great red-sandgroping-wog in my eyes
Whatever. Can't get on the park
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got on the park 52 times
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got on the park 52 times
Not enough
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78% of possible games.
Not too bad.
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78% of possible games.
Not too bad.
I don't think he'll ever have an injury free season/pre season and that's why he might never reach his potential
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I don't think he'll ever have an injury free season/pre season and that's why he might never reach his potential
What are you talking about ? Apart from a hamstring torn off the bone that's not improving , a degenerative foot injury and a rank beard he's going great guns.
:whistle
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I don't think he'll ever have an injury free season/pre season and that's why he might never reach his potential
What are you talking about ? Apart from a hamstring torn off the bone that's not improving , a degenerative foot injury and a rank beard he's going great guns.
:whistle
The club are the silly one who drafted him with a foot injury. Should've taken Heppell
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heppell will have ... related injuries
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LMAO
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:lol
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heppell will have ... related injuries
Heppell sounds like it is a disease !!
" things aren't quite right down there doc , I think I've got a bad case of Heppell "
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'Heppelltitis V'
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'It was like being shot': Young Tiger's reality check
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
December 8, 2013
REECE Conca says it was like being shot in the back of the leg.
He's talking about the moment his left hamstring tendon gave way just 12 minutes into Richmond's losing elimination final to Carlton.
The 21-year-old was running for the ball alongside Blues opponents Zach Tuohy and Robbie Warnock. He'd pushed off but was nowhere near full pace; in fact, Tuohy had a light hold of his left arm.
Suddenly, he pulled up, hopped in the air, and then crashed to the deck where the pain was written all over his face.
"I just knew immediately. It was one of those things; it literally feels like you've been shot," Conca told AFL.com.au this week.
"I just tried to get off the ground as quick as possible and a few trainers came on and helped me off."
Conca sat in the rooms for the rest of the quarter and collected his thoughts.
He knew the injury was pretty serious. While soft-tissue injuries weren't something he knew a great deal about, he was sure this one was big.
After he pulled himself together, he donned a tracksuit and came up to the bench to watch the rest of the game, which the Tigers lost by 20 points.
"That wasn't so great either, with the way we finished," he said.
"All in all, it was a pretty disappointing day."
There had been little warning his hamstring tendon was in danger of giving way.
Conca remembers feeling a little tight in the area before the game but figured it was normal given the late state of the season.
He started the game on the bench and when he came on, felt he hadn't warmed his legs up enough.
But still, there was no telling he'd sustain an injury that would rob him of half his pre-season and need surgery to fix.
"It's almost impossible to know if there's an issue with your tendon because the muscle around it is what you feel is tight," he said.
"We do a lot of squeeze tests at the club each week to make sure that we don't have any issues and all those results were fine because all the muscles around the tendon were compensating for it.
"They think it was a progression. The tendon would have been wearing down over three or four weeks and it just so happened it went at that very moment."
Despite the operation, and another a week later to remove an "extra bone" from the back of his right heel (known as the os trigonum bone, with which only a small number of people are born), Conca managed a decent break from football.
After a week on the couch recovering from the operations, the second of which was scheduled as he needed it done anyway and it made sense to rehabilitate two areas at the same time, he headed to Brazil with his teammates.
After joining eight teammates on the Tigers' Rio de Janeiro cultural exchange program, he spent time in his hometown of Perth.
While Conca has plans to move home at some stage – "maybe in 20 years" – it didn't enter his mind this year when his management was negotiating his new contract.
He signed a three-year deal in September, after persistent speculation he was set to head to a West Australian club.
"I personally wanted to try and hurry it up, to get it done," he said.
"In my mind, I was never really going to go and it got blown out of proportion, like the media does when all of that is going on.
"You always naturally have a thought about it. Coming from Perth, it's completely different to Melbourne.
"But we've got that young developing group and the club as a whole seems to be moving in the right direction."
That direction is something he wants more say in.
After being part of the Tigers' emerging leaders group this season, he wants to take another step in his development as one of the voices of the team in 2014.
Having been encouraged by Dylan Grimes' promotion from it to the leadership group this year, Conca wants to take more ownership in his fourth AFL season as well as make a consistent on-field contribution.
"It's a younger group of leaders that is pushing to grow their leadership to one day get into the leadership group," he said.
"I want to continually improve on my first three seasons.
"I've had a few injuries and stuff, which have been a hiccup, but my aim for this year is to play 22 healthy games and really contribute to the team, and then play some more finals and get some more success on the back of that."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-08/concas-reality-check
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Conca remembers feeling a little tight in the area before the game but figured it was normal given the late state of the season. :banghead
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and Im sure many players would feel some tightness but play out games.
I'm curious as to whether anyone who has been shot has said that it felt just tearing a hamstring.
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hes been solid with out being outstanding.
for a pick 6 and his type medium sized mid starting off hb id say hes been a little disappointing for some.
for me its the lack of time awareness and tendency to rush that to date concerns me.
just to add to the debate compare these areas of his game to heppell and heppell wins by the flemington straight. that is if we can be honest with ourselves.
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Lmao short steppel
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hes been solid with out being outstanding.
for a pick 6 and his type medium sized mid starting off hb id say hes been a little disappointing for some.
for me its the lack of time awareness and tendency to rush that to date concerns me.
just to add to the debate compare these areas of his game to heppell and heppell wins by the flemington straight. that is if we can be honest with ourselves.
I can be honest with myself but I'll try not to exaggerate as much as Claw and I'll say Conca is better but only by the length of the Caulfield straight.
Heppell does look pretty though doesn't he ?
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I love the way when he is running away from players and his hair is blowing in the wind
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I rate Heppell comfortably ahead of Conca at this stage.
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thanks for sharing
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Don't mention it.
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Reece has huge upside ,don't know if Heppell does though.But at this point in time I have heppell ahead
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hes been solid with out being outstanding.
for a pick 6 and his type medium sized mid starting off hb id say hes been a little disappointing for some.
for me its the lack of time awareness and tendency to rush that to date concerns me.
just to add to the debate compare these areas of his game to heppell and heppell wins by the flemington straight. that is if we can be honest with ourselves.
:help Heppell pfft soft as.. Conca for me.. easy..
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Heppell
Pros: One grab player, very quick clean hands, reads the play well, seamlessly transitioned to afl footy. Generally clean with disposal by foot bc hes a good decision maker.
Cons: Masks loopy non penetrating kicks by picking simple and easy option all the time. No hurt factor with run or disposal. Liken him to Gibbs with less class and that's not saying much. Is always free, why? Bc teams don't mind him with ball in hands, does not cut up the opposition.
Conca
Pros: Tough as nails, inside/outside mid, hits the packs/ball very hard at full pace and has a good ability to weave through traffic. Is already a key part of our midfield rotations and is very handy at the coalface. Yet to complete half a preseason let alone a full one so has plenty in the tank you would think
Cons: Disposal. Do not like his ball drop, will always have the occasional shocking kick when going full pelt. Decision making needs to improve. is a smart player and can often be seen barking instructions so knows the game plan well and where it should go, just sometimes tries to do too much.
Heppell slightly ahead at this stage only bc his bad hasn't been exposed yet, but it will be like Gibbs was in year 3 and 4 after we kept hearing what a champion he already was. Conca just has to play within himself and with more game experience will noticeably relax out there. Once his outside decision making improves he will be very highly regarded.
As Dermie once said "I get the feeling Conca is only at about 50-60% of the player he will ultimately become"
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Reece has huge upside ,don't know if Heppell does though.But at this point in time I have heppell ahead
Heppells upside is if he grows a left one and a right one he would be a decent footballer
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Reece has huge upside ,don't know if Heppell does though.But at this point in time I have heppell ahead
Can't argue with any of that. Conca would be a good comoarisonwith a full pre season under his belt
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Con a is tough as nails :cheers
rewind the tape and count how many head injuries hes got going for the pill
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Any one doubting conca should listen to the champion data interview on tiger talk.
Conca is tracking ahead of what is expected for a 21 yr old midfielder taken at pick 6.
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I rate Heppell comfortably ahead of Conca at this stage.
Me too. But it doesn't make me a bad person :lol
If Heppell played for us, half the clowns on here that don't rate him would be talking him up big time. Some people are passionate but some people are just stupid.
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Who gives a stuff about Heppell!!!!!!!
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Who gives a stuff about Heppell!!!!!!!
It's a discussion about AFL footy on a forum relating to a tigers player. If you don't like the discussion you and your exclamation marks move on to another topic. Or go practice your puting!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup
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lol heppell actually wins more contested ball than conca. he also finds more out side ball. he also lays more tackles but because as a skinny little stick he pu;lled out once hes forever a dud.
his first yr he barley weighed 80kg for a kid standing 189cm that made him a stick. hes slowly gained a little size since, this yr he played at 85kg still well under where he needs to be. imo he has a bigger upside than conca in the physical stakes. when hes 189/and 90 91 kg with the strength and confidence that goes with it watch out.
but size or not its the ability to buy time the awareness of whats around him that enables him to make v good decisions and use the ball well. i dont see that in reece.
unlike some around here im prepared to be honest and say yes atm heppell is a mile in front hes more than likely going to be a more rounded player and atm more damaging. that may change and i hope it does but to infer conca has upside and heppell has none is hilarious.
as a kid u18s 2010 he won the morrish medal. in his first yr 2011 he won the rising star award. in just his 2nd season 2012 he was r/u in his clubs best & fairest. and last yr he pushed his disposal percentage up toward 25 a game with a large narrowing of u/p to c/p but still hes a dud and our boys better to date.
how pathetic are we.
im not having a go at conca but this is a discussion comparing two players and i just happen to rate the other player to date higher.thing is i always take the blinkers off. im not sure how anyone could rate conca in front of heppell after their first 3 yrs.
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lol heppell actually wins more contested ball than conca. he also finds more out side ball. he also lays more tackles but because as a skinny little stick he pu;lled out once hes forever a dud.
his first yr he barley weighed 80kg for a kid standing 189cm that made him a stick. hes slowly gained a little size since, this yr he played at 85kg still well under where he needs to be. imo he has a bigger upside than conca in the physical stakes. when hes 189/and 90 91 kg with the strength and confidence that goes with it watch out.
but size or not its the ability to buy time the awareness of whats around him that enables him to make v good decisions and use the ball well. i dont see that in reece.
unlike some around here im prepared to be honest and say yes atm heppell is a mile in front hes more than likely going to be a more rounded player and atm more damaging. that may change and i hope it does but to infer conca has upside and heppell has none is hilarious.
as a kid u18s 2010 he won the morrish medal. in his first yr 2011 he won the rising star award. in just his 2nd season 2012 he was r/u in his clubs best & fairest. and last yr he pushed his disposal percentage up toward 25 a game with a large narrowing of u/p to c/p but still hes a dud and our boys better to date.
how pathetic are we.
im not having a go at conca but this is a discussion comparing two players and i just happen to rate the other player to date higher.thing is i always take the blinkers off. im not sure how anyone could rate conca in front of heppell after their first 3 yrs.
Agree I'd swap Conca for heppell in a heartbeat. We were stupid not to take Heppell.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
Agree, except 2 words
Mitch Morton
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
Agree, except 2 words
Mitch Morton
:rollin Gold! do you really think he won sydney a grand final.. playing 10mins
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Reece > Heppell
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
fair enough reece has been an infinately better player than heppell to date because he has heart. ::) did hppells lack of heart help him win a morrish medal or the rising star award or did it help him finish 2nd in his clubs b&f all this from a bloke with no heart. what has concas so called heart help him achieve to date whats that i hear nothing.
gotta luv the excuses.
people on here would be creaming their pants if we had a player who had achieved what heppell has to date. yep heppell lacks heart lets just ignore the many acts of courage hes displayed going back with the flight, nope as a skinny kid he pulled out once hes no good.
ill take a bloke who knows how to find it both inside and out, has great awareness, doesnt panic and has the ability to buy time and use the ball well, defends well, and can run and spread with the best of em. which one of these things is reece doing really well atm.
what is we call people who just refuse to admit they are wrong. cmon who has impacted games more who has literally performed better to date you arent telling me conca has are ya.
jeezus h Geez are we really that petty.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
fair enough reece has been an infinately better player than heppell to date because he has heart. ::) did hppells lack of heart help him win a morrish medal or the rising star award or did it help him finish 2nd in his clubs b&f all this from a bloke with no heart. what has concas so called heart help him achieve to date whats that i hear nothing.
gotta luv the excuses.
people on here would be creaming their pants if we had a player who had achieved what heppell has to date. yep heppell lacks heart lets just ignore the many acts of courage hes displayed going back with the flight, nope as a skinny kid he pulled out once hes no good.
ill take a bloke who knows how to find it both inside and out, has great awareness, doesnt panic and has the ability to buy time and use the ball well, defends well, and can run and spread with the best of em. which one of these things is reece doing really well atm.
what is we call people who just refuse to admit they are wrong. cmon who has impacted games more who has literally performed better to date you arent telling me conca has are ya.
jeezus h Geez are we really that petty.
Conca has started much more slowly than Heppell but is reeling him in quickly. Only injury will stop him overtaking him.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hysterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
fair enough reece has been an infinately better player than heppell to date because he has heart. ::) did hppells lack of heart help him win a morrish medal or the rising star award or did it help him finish 2nd in his clubs b&f all this from a bloke with no heart. what has concas so called heart help him achieve to date whats that i hear nothing.
gotta luv the excuses.
people on here would be creaming their pants if we had a player who had achieved what heppell has to date. yep heppell lacks heart lets just ignore the many acts of courage hes displayed going back with the flight, nope as a skinny kid he pulled out once hes no good.
ill take a bloke who knows how to find it both inside and out, has great awareness, doesnt panic and has the ability to buy time and use the ball well, defends well, and can run and spread with the best of em. which one of these things is reece doing really well atm.
what is we call people who just refuse to admit they are wrong. cmon who has impacted games more who has literally performed better to date you arent telling me conca has are ya.
jeezus h Geez are we really that petty.
Conca has started much more slowly than Heppell but is reeling him in quickly. Only injury will stop him overtaking him.
What crap!
Didn't Heppell get the same amount of votes in the Brownlow as our star Lids? Not to shabby from a kid in his 3 year. So how the stuff is Reece reeling him in? Get a f$&king clue!
Gets me filthy when idiots have no idea! The same idiots that wear their Tigers jumper around town during cricket season. The same nuffies as they show on the footy show on 'Street Talk'....
If you are going to talk footy at least have some idea. At least have some sort of factual evidence that might back up your opinion. Not just that you like Richmond better than Essendon.
Any person with half a brain can see that Heppell is streets ahead of Conca and almost without a shadow of a doubt will stay that way throughout their careers.
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the Brownlow
the Brownlow :clapping
The same idiots that wear their Tigers jumper around town during cricket season.
got suck a sausage Susan
people can where tigers jumpers any time in any part of the world :police:
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the Brownlow
the Brownlow :clapping
The same idiots that wear their Tigers jumper around town during cricket season.
got suck a sausage Susan
people can where tigers jumpers any time in any part of the world :police:
Look forward to seeing you on the Footy Show Judge Redneck
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you struggle with stereotypes don't you :shh
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you struggle with stereotypes don't you :shh
I struggle with idiots
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Conca > Heppell > Deledio
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dontbmad
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you struggle with stereotypes don't you :shh
I struggle with idiots
stay away from the house of mirrors then next time your at an amusement park...
you are basing your argument around
a) an award where wowoful (mates with charters....) won, as voted by the highly esteemed umpire fraternity in 2000 ahead of Kouta, West, Ratten, Bradley, Voss, Buckly, McLeod, Carey... in your passionate defence of fellow pretty yellow hair heppell (mates with charters.......
b) people that dont rate conca as vastly inferior, are under the umbrella of cultral and geniticaly 'bogan'.
c) some warped sense of fashion in that one that wears richmond colours at non richmond events is socially unusual (tour de france, lords, bombay, beach...)
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hy gtsterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
fair enough reece has been an infinately better player than heppell to date because he has heart. ::) did hppells lack of heart help him win a morrish medal or the rising star award or did it help him finish 2nd in his clubs b&f all this from a bloke with no heart. what has concas so called heart help him achieve to date whats that i hear nothing.
gotta luv the excuses.
people on here would be creaming their pants if we had a player who had achieved what heppell has to date. yep heppell lacks heart lets just ignore the many acts of courage hes displayed going back with the flight, nope as a skinny kid he pulled out once hes no good.
ill take a bloke who knows how to find it both inside and out, has great awareness, doesnt panic and has the ability to buy time and use the ball well, defends well, and can run and spread with the best of em. which one of these things is reece doing really well atm.
what is we call people who just refuse to admit they are wrong. cmon who has impacted games more who has literally performed better to date you arent telling me conca has are ya.
jeezus h Geez are we really that petty.
Conca has started much more slowly than Heppell but is reeling him in quickly. Only injury will stop him overtaking him.
What crap!
Didn't Heppell get the same amount of votes in the Brownlow as our star Lids? Not to shabby from a kid in his 3 year. So how the stuff is Reece reeling him in? Get a f$&king clue!
Gets me filthy when idiots have no idea! The same idiots that wear their Tigers jumper around town during cricket season. The same nuffies as they show on the footy show on 'Street Talk'....
If you are going to talk footy at least have some idea. At least have some sort of factual evidence that might back up your opinion. Not just that you like Richmond better than Essendon.
Any person with half a brain can see that Heppell is streets ahead of Conca and almost without a shadow of a doubt will stay that way throughout their careers.
I think you are a clueless yob. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean he is wrong! Conca had a congenital heel problem before he started playing with us. He couldn't train properly and that pushed him back in development. Heppell has had an injury free run since he started so direct comparisons without taking this into account are plain stupid!
So grow up and respect other people's opinions before you mouth off without there being any neural synapsing going on in that head of yours! I am assuming there might be some neurons up there of course!
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While they are different players I probably rate Heppel slightly ahead of Concs, but not by much. That Concs has been hindered by injury since his debut certainly needs to be taken into account. But then again, durability is an important attribute, so that goes both ways.
I'd probs still take Heppel though if we had a our pick again - just. That could well change after this year though.
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Heppell's been on the park almost half a season more than Conc's so its a bit hard to compare them at this stage. Right now IMO Heppell is slightly ahead, but if Reece remains injury free, I'm pretty confident he will surpass him by the halfway mark of next season.
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If you are going to talk footy at least have some idea.
Funny , that's what I was thinking about you as I was reading your post
Any person with half a brain can see that Heppell is streets ahead of Conca and almost without a shadow of a doubt will stay that way throughout their careers.
It's quite clear to me after reading this comment that you only have half a brain.
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This is all getting very Big Footyish.
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Last year Conca kicked 3 goals in a match twice....Heppell has yet to achieve that feat.
Heppell does average 4 more disposals per match than Conca ....probably because he plays more in defence and gets more junk Bowden- esque style kicks to pump up his stats.
For a third year player Reece is tracking along nicely and is an important cog in the Richmond midfield. He has also shown great loyalty to the tigers despite both WA team sniffing around at the end of the season.
Let's not get hy gtsterical .....Im not losing any sleep over the fact we chose conca over heppell...yet other posters are intent on making it another Tambo/Franklin calamity.
thats just it no ones having a go at reece in fact most of us have said hes going okay. i dont think anyone else is losing sleep over us taking conca. but if we compare the two to date im sorry heppell wins to date. isnt that what we are currently debating.
yes in conca we got a decent player unlike tambling who was a total bust so there is no comparison.
what can be debated and asked is did we get the best possible player with pick 6. its a fair question as well, because at the time of the draft there was plenty of questions about us taking conca at 6 by a lot of people if not most people.
i think you place far to much importance on stats.. Theres that other thing that you fail to see.. its not measured with stats. its called heart.. Conca has it, Morris has it. Watson has it and zaharakis has it your show pony types like heppell dont! The one thing we have drafted into the side in recent times is players with heart.. Go through them, even the ones that havent quite got there have had that thing you never take into account.. Heart! Heart wins you a Grand Final, show ponies dont..
fair enough reece has been an infinately better player than heppell to date because he has heart. ::) did hppells lack of heart help him win a morrish medal or the rising star award or did it help him finish 2nd in his clubs b&f all this from a bloke with no heart. what has concas so called heart help him achieve to date whats that i hear nothing.
gotta luv the excuses.
people on here would be creaming their pants if we had a player who had achieved what heppell has to date. yep heppell lacks heart lets just ignore the many acts of courage hes displayed going back with the flight, nope as a skinny kid he pulled out once hes no good.
ill take a bloke who knows how to find it both inside and out, has great awareness, doesnt panic and has the ability to buy time and use the ball well, defends well, and can run and spread with the best of em. which one of these things is reece doing really well atm.
what is we call people who just refuse to admit they are wrong. cmon who has impacted games more who has literally performed better to date you arent telling me conca has are ya.
jeezus h Geez are we really that petty.
Conca has started much more slowly than Heppell but is reeling him in quickly. Only injury will stop him overtaking him.
What crap!
Didn't Heppell get the same amount of votes in the Brownlow as our star Lids? Not to shabby from a kid in his 3 year. So how the stuff is Reece reeling him in? Get a f$&king clue!
Gets me filthy when idiots have no idea! The same idiots that wear their Tigers jumper around town during cricket season. The same nuffies as they show on the footy show on 'Street Talk'....
If you are going to talk footy at least have some idea. At least have some sort of factual evidence that might back up your opinion. Not just that you like Richmond better than Essendon.
Any person with half a brain can see that Heppell is streets ahead of Conca and almost without a shadow of a doubt will stay that way throughout their careers.
I think you are a clueless yob. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean he is wrong! Conca had a congenital heel problem before he started playing with us. He couldn't train properly and that pushed him back in development. Heppell has had an injury free run since he started so direct comparisons without taking this into account are plain stupid!
So grow up and respect other people's opinions before you mouth off without there being any neural synapsing going on in that head of yours! I am assuming there might be some neurons up there of course!
I'm hardly a yob. What I hate is when people like you say a statement without any follow up to back it up. Claw says some stuff that sometimes we all don't agree with but at least he will give an explanation to why he thinks it.
So to prove me wrong, can you explain how you think Conca is reeling Heppell in quickly? A statement like that should come with a bit of an explanation. Some facts or something you can pin to your opinion. I'll grow some respect for people's/your posts, as you put it, when IMO they deserve it. You earn it you don't just get it because you puts some words on a forum.
By the way, my post wasn't totally directed at you, I just get frustrated having to sift through so much crap on here these days.
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seeing as you are heppels biggest fan why dont you provide us with some facts?
hard ball gets
1%ers
clearances
inside 50s
goals
2nd efforts
squib ratio
etc.
sorry i forgot brownlow votes
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If Heppell was a Tiger he would just be another skinny back flanker and we should have gone a genuine mid like Conca.
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Who cares Conca v Heppell. Not taking Parker over Batch was the mistake. Darling is better than Heppell. He'd be the one id want with time again.
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IMO, the biggest drafting mistake of the Hardwick era so far is taking Griffiths over Carlisle.
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seeing as you are heppels biggest fan why dont you provide us with some facts?
hard ball gets
1%ers
clearances
inside 50s
goals
2nd efforts
squib ratio
etc.
sorry i forgot brownlow votes
you would not ask that question defending conca if you took the time to look at the stats for yourself.
conca v heppell
10.4 kicks 12 .6
7.3 hb 9.7
3.8 marks 5.3
0.3 goals 0.2
2.8 tackles 3.1
6.1 contested pos 7.7
11.1 uncontested pos 14.8
1.0 1% 1.8
2.3 inside 50 3.2
2.3 clearances 2.5
thats just some of the basic stats and heppell wins in most of em.
just to finish games played
conca v heppell
17 2011 23
18 2012 20
17 2013 19
i find it a bit rich to suggest lack of games or significantly more games to heppell is an excuse as to why conca has not performed as well. apart from the first yr there is little difference between them and even in yr one conca played 17 games.
its funny all some of us are saying is heppell has been the better performer to date and there are people slashing their wrists. most awards most stats and basic traits all say heppell has performed better yet you would think the boots were being put in to conca.
why cant people just be honest with themselves. why do they feel the need to defend every single thing richmond.
its funny im accused of being bitter but blokes who cant even be honest when theres overwhelming evidence says to me there is a real inferiority complex going on.
all you insecure buggers you know what. its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
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all you insecure buggers you know what. its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
Agree. I reckon Reece is 6th best of the 18yo's in this draft. Are the 5 guys I rate better all guys who went above him? No. I'd say he's better than Day, Gaff and Polec. But not as good as Heppell, Darling and Prestia.
In regards to Reece's injuries, it's more the pre-season's that he has missed than actual games. For example 2011 he had barely any pre-season then played 17 games. Not many games missed but the lack of pre-season will affect the quality of them. Hasn't had a full pre-season yet or even close to it and he isn't getting one again this year. Maybe he will never get one and he will just stay around this level which is fine or maybe he can get fit and go up another notch.
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IMO, the biggest drafting mistake of the Hardwick era so far is taking Griffiths over Carlisle.
That one at least made sense. Both were highly rated and injury prone, we got unlucky that our one stayed that way and the other got fit.
Batch over Parker was awful. Parker won the B&F over Scully as a 17yo and was talked up as a top 10 pick. Batch was a nobody who from memory didn't even play Champs. Weren't they even in the same team now that I think about it? Meaning if we watched that much Batchelor we surely saw Parker. :lol
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did batch no win the b+f in the tac gf winning side
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i find it a bit rich to suggest lack of games or significantly more games to heppell is an excuse as to why conca has not performed as well.
But you're wrong again coz Conca has performed well !
why cant people just be honest with themselves
Seriously dude , that comment is so patronising it's laughable
its funny im accused of being bitter but blokes who cant even be honest when theres overwhelming evidence says to me there is a real inferiority complex going on.
There you go again with delusions about people not being honest. Overwhelming evidence ? lmao !! I know who has the inferiority complex.
all you insecure buggers you know what. its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
lol , nice angle but that's a patronising fail too. I'm totally secure , and being totally honest....we got the better player.
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Its pretty clear Heppells a better player IMHO. He gets more of the footy and he is a better user of the footy too.
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its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
Ill probably be accused of taking it out of context, but this is the bottom line.
getting a lesser player doesn't really hurt you down the track, getting a bust does.
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Its pretty clear Heppells a better player IMHO. He gets more of the footy and he is a better user of the footy too.
Wrong. Heppell does several things better than Conca, but he is not a better user of the footy.
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Its pretty clear Heppells a better player IMHO. He gets more of the footy and he is a better user of the footy too.
Wrong. Heppell does several things better than Conca, but he is not a better user of the footy.
Whilst he doesn't really pull off the freakish passes by foot that Conca can on the odd occasion, I'd say Heppell is a far more reliable, smarter and consistently cleaner user of the ball than Conca is.
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Agree that Hep uses it better than Concs.
Heppel is better outside while Concs is better inside, I reckon.
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AS I have previously stated at this point in time I rate heppell above Reece ,but not by much.Reece has the "grunt " factor something invaluable to a team.I don't think heppell has this
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i find it a bit rich to suggest lack of games or significantly more games to heppell is an excuse as to why conca has not performed as well.
But you're wrong again coz Conca has performed well !
why cant people just be honest with themselves
Seriously dude , that comment is so patronising it's laughable
its funny im accused of being bitter but blokes who cant even be honest when theres overwhelming evidence says to me there is a real inferiority complex going on.
There you go again with delusions about people not being honest. Overwhelming evidence ? lmao !! I know who has the inferiority complex.
all you insecure buggers you know what. its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
lol , nice angle but that's a patronising fail too. I'm totally secure , and being totally honest....we got the better player.
where does it say conca has not performed well. all it says is heppell has performed better. id suggest you stop being so anxious and take more time when reading.
hmm patronising commments. yep im guilty they were supposed to be. patronising or not they are correct imo. heppell has been by far the better player to date. when so many are saying something and its backed up by nearly every criteria there is, when people deny just about every criteria there is in comparing two players then those people are kidding themselves.
oh finally im glad to hear your totally secure, obviously deluded but secure, i suppose we cant be perfect. and yep the comparisons evidence when all things are weighed up is overwhelmingly in heppells favour.
i know why dont you bring up a a comparison useing stats useing performance useing awards and while your at it why not a strengths/ weakness analysis and comparison.
you see i can be so sure of myself and be so condescending because ive done all that.
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i find it a bit rich to suggest lack of games or significantly more games to heppell is an excuse as to why conca has not performed as well.
But you're wrong again coz Conca has performed well !
why cant people just be honest with themselves
Seriously dude , that comment is so patronising it's laughable
its funny im accused of being bitter but blokes who cant even be honest when theres overwhelming evidence says to me there is a real inferiority complex going on.
There you go again with delusions about people not being honest. Overwhelming evidence ? lmao !! I know who has the inferiority complex.
all you insecure buggers you know what. its okay we didnt get the better player just as long as we got a good one at pick 6.
lol , nice angle but that's a patronising fail too. I'm totally secure , and being totally honest....we got the better player.
where does it say conca has not performed well. all it says is heppell has performed better. id suggest you stop being so anxious and take more time when reading.
hmm patronising commments. yep im guilty they were supposed to be. patronising or not they are correct imo. heppell has been by far the better player to date. when so many are saying something and its backed up by nearly every criteria there is, when people deny just about every criteria there is in comparing two players then those people are kidding themselves.
oh finally im glad to hear your totally secure, obviously deluded but secure, i suppose we cant be perfect. and yep the comparisons evidence when all things are weighed up is overwhelmingly in heppells favour.
i know why dont you bring up a a comparison useing stats useing performance useing awards and while your at it why not a strengths/ weakness analysis and comparison.
you see i can be so sure of myself and be so condescending because ive done all that.
Drop it claw. I think most people agree that Heppell has been a better player at this point in time. However we know that Reece hasn't had the preseason preparation that Dyson has. As such many feel that his ceiling is higher if he can get that fitness base up. That is an opinion from watching what Reece can do in a game vs Dyson. I for one think that this is possible although his hamstring and operation on his other foot will yet again slow him down in preparation for next season.
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I think the fact that Heppell has long flowing locks looks much more impressive in a highlight reel than our in and under ranga
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i know why dont you bring up a a comparison useing stats useing performance useing awards and while your at it why not a strengths/ weakness analysis and comparison.
you see i can be so sure of myself and be so condescending because ive done all that.
I'd learn to spell basic words correctly before I tried to come across all high and mighty if I were you. A six year old kid could spell 'using' correctly.
(http://verysmartbrothas.com/images/400x345xDo-not-think-it-means.jpeg,qc07647.pagespeed.ic.HhV7frsanA.jpg)
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Big year is next year for Reece, really needs to make his mark on he game, has had a good year this year but needs to become very good and I think he will.
For me Heppell is the sort of player that will either star or just be mediocre, next year will be telling for him too.
I think after next year we should have enough on both players to adequately compare them, at this stage its too early.
We can only really compare Kruz and Cotch in the last 2 years, Cotch has won that race for mine.
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Big year is next year for Reece, really needs to make his mark on he game, has had a good year this year but needs to become very good and I think he will.
For me Heppell is the sort of player that will either star or just be mediocre, next year will be telling for him too.
I think after next year we should have enough on both players to adequately compare them, at this stage its too early.
We can only really compare Kruz and Cotch in the last 2 years, Cotch has won that race for mine.
Assuming Heppel is allowed to play next year... you don't get hair like that without some sort of drugs
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Big year is next year for Reece, really needs to make his mark on he game, has had a good year this year but needs to become very good and I think he will.
For me Heppell is the sort of player that will either star or just be mediocre, next year will be telling for him too.
I think after next year we should have enough on both players to adequately compare them, at this stage its too early.
We can only really compare Kruz and Cotch in the last 2 years, Cotch has won that race for mine.
Assuming Heppel is allowed to play next year... you don't get hair like that without some sort of drugs
:lol
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but size or not its the ability to buy time the awareness of whats around him that enables him to make v good decisions and use the ball well. i dont see that in reece.
Funny you should say that, Conca actually has a better disposal efficiency than Heppell
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i know why dont you bring up a a comparison useing stats useing performance useing awards and while your at it why not a strengths/ weakness analysis and comparison.
you see i can be so sure of myself and be so condescending because ive done all that.
I'd learn to spell basic words correctly before I tried to come across all high and mighty if I were you. A six year old kid could spell 'using' correctly.
(http://verysmartbrothas.com/images/400x345xDo-not-think-it-means.jpeg,qc07647.pagespeed.ic.HhV7frsanA.jpg)
so my spelling and grammar is on your level of intelligence, you should feel comfortable, no secure then. ;)
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One the best things about yesterday's game was seeing Conca get through the game unscathed [touchwood] after returning from that bad hammy and him killing it in the clearances racking up 16 possies and 4 centre clearances in the half he played. It showed how much we missed him in the Elim. Final when he went down in the first 5 minutes.
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Wow. Really battling. :/
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Wow. Really battling. :/
Yep. Benefit of the doubt coming back from a pretty serious hamstring injury for a little longer
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He was also playing on a better player than him in Murphy who looks like getting back to his best this season. I don't have an issue with him at this stage
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Paid overs.
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Paid overs.
Poo comment.
Have you ever had your hamstring torn of your ischial tuberosity?
I would say probably not.
He has missed the majority of the preseason and has not regained any touch.
He will improve.
Give him time.
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Paid overs.
Poo comment.
Have you ever had your hamstring torn of your ischial tuberosity?
I would say probably not.
He has missed the majority of the preseason and has not regained any touch.
He will improve.
Give him time.
give him time at coburg. pooing it up is poooing it up. surely we have other midfield options to use in the seniors while conca finds this mysterious talent and form everyone keeps on going on about.
if his hammy has affected him so much it is clearly a mistake playing him in the seniors atm. he was not just poor last night he stunk it up.
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Paid overs.
Poo comment.
Have you ever had your hamstring torn of your ischial tuberosity?
I would say probably not.
He has missed the majority of the preseason and has not regained any touch.
He will improve.
Give him time.
give him time at coburg. pooing it up is poooing it up. surely we have other midfield options to use in the seniors while conca finds this mysterious talent and form everyone keeps on going on about.
if his hammy has affected him so much it is clearly a mistake playing him in the seniors atm. he was not just poor last night he stunk it up.
I was referring to the comment "paid overs".
I agree he should be played in our vfl side till he regains touch.
I think it is a rather uniformed person who thinks he should join Coburg! :whistle
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lol
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Paid overs.
Poo comment.
Have you ever had your hamstring torn of your ischial tuberosity?
I would say probably not.
He has missed the majority of the preseason and has not regained any touch.
He will improve.
Give him time.
give him time at coburg. pooing it up is poooing it up. surely we have other midfield options to use in the seniors while conca finds this mysterious talent and form everyone keeps on going on about.
if his hammy has affected him so much it is clearly a mistake playing him in the seniors atm. he was not just poor last night he stunk it up.
Were you turning off the telly last year at quarter time as well as you would appear to have missed Conca's form and talent
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Paid overs.
Poo comment.
Have you ever had your hamstring torn of your ischial tuberosity?
I would say probably not.
He has missed the majority of the preseason and has not regained any touch.
He will improve.
Give him time.
give him time at coburg. pooing it up is poooing it up. surely we have other midfield options to use in the seniors while conca finds this mysterious talent and form everyone keeps on going on about.
if his hammy has affected him so much it is clearly a mistake playing him in the seniors atm. he was not just poor last night he stunk it up.
I was referring to the comment "paid overs".
I agree he should be played in our vfl side till he regains touch.
I think it is a rather uniformed person who thinks he should join Coburg! :whistle
lol old habits die hard.
on the paid overs comment. i reckon while harsh its fair. there was an awful lot of debate when we drafted him about where we took him and where he would land.
i reckon people who had that opinion at the time are still entitled to voice it now.
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Yep voiced it then and have yet to be convinced otherwise. FWIW reckon Conca is a like a slight upgrade on Tuck - which is not necessarily a bad thing in & of itself, just not something worth using a top 10 draft pick to get.
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apparently had a run with role on Murphy who is one of the games hardest runners.
Cramped up badly due to lack of conditioning. Dimma thought he had done an ok job till then.
Never see Heppell doing these roles. He usually plays a loose man "Grigg" type role.
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Ch 7 news tonight showed Conca limping into Punt Rd today. The Club is saying it's only cramp but Ch 7 said it's the same leg as the one he did his hammy.
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Ch 7 news tonight showed Conca limping into Punt Rd today. The Club is saying it's only cramp but Ch 7 said it's the same leg as the one he did his hammy.
Also the same one he cramped last night ::)
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Ch 7 news tonight showed Conca limping into Punt Rd today. The Club is saying it's only cramp but Ch 7 said it's the same leg as the one he did his hammy.
He has been seen limping during the preseason. Not sure if he is right. Maybe just severe bruising.
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On the footage I saw of them heading into the club it looked like all of them were limping. They left nothing in the tank last night so no surprise they pulled up sore today.
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Yep my mail was their were a lot of sore bodies out there, we played that first half at breakneck speed,
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How stupid is this pre season phase training.
Morons.
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Conca was on Murphy? Sure as hell didn't look like it.
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apparently had a run with role on Murphy who is one of the games hardest runners.
Cramped up badly due to lack of conditioning. Dimma thought he had done an ok job till then. maybe dimma needs to look a bit harder.
Never see Heppell doing these roles. He usually plays a loose man "Grigg" type role.
murphy was bog ok job hey.
on heppell all i can say is take the blinkers off. he actually wins a fair bit more contested ball than conca does. in fact hes what you would call well rounded. the simple fact he has the ability to create space and buy time and has a bit of awareness makes him look out side.
in conca to date all ive seen is a average player at best.
heppell doesnt get run with roles those roles because hes an actual play maker. what a poor excuse. usually its the average types who get the run with roles anyway.
as far as performance and output goes heppell is currently the length of the flemington straight in front. as far as attributes for the game goes heppell also wins hands down atm.
why is it so hard just to be honest with ourselves, why are we so churlish when it comes to opposition players. theres nothing to be ahamed about that heppell is the better player atm and thus far thru his career. we should at least be objective and honest enough to admit it.
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How stupid is this pre season phase training.
Morons.
Yep sometimes things are overcomplicated.
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apparently had a run with role on Murphy who is one of the games hardest runners.
Cramped up badly due to lack of conditioning. Dimma thought he had done an ok job till then. maybe dimma needs to look a bit harder.
Never see Heppell doing these roles. He usually plays a loose man "Grigg" type role.
murphy was bog ok job hey.
on heppell all i can say is take the blinkers off. he actually wins a fair bit more contested ball than conca does. in fact hes what you would call well rounded. the simple fact he has the ability to create space and buy time and has a bit of awareness makes him look out side.
in conca to date all ive seen is a average player at best.
heppell doesnt get run with roles those roles because hes an actual play maker. what a poor excuse. usually its the average types who get the run with roles anyway.
as far as performance and output goes heppell is currently the length of the flemington straight in front. as far as attributes for the game goes heppell also wins hands down atm.
why is it so hard just to be honest with ourselves, why are we so churlish when it comes to opposition players. theres nothing to be ahamed about that heppell is the better player atm and thus far thru his career. we should at least be objective and honest enough to admit it.
I haven't got blinkers, I just feel that Conca has upside but hasn't yet reached the heights he can. This is due to injury. He came to Richmond with bone spurs in his feet and now has finally got over them only to have a serious hamstring injury. Heppell has has an injury free run. I never said Heppell wasn't a good player. I just see him as a much better version of Grigg.
I agree that so far Heppell is ahead by a fair way but if Conca remains uninjured (a very big if) he has the game that would make him surpass Heppell.
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Reece started really well against the Blues I thought but fell right away as the tagging job took it's toll.
His interrupted pre season hasn't help one bit. Seems to be struggling to run out games.
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apparently had a run with role on Murphy who is one of the games hardest runners.
Cramped up badly due to lack of conditioning. Dimma thought he had done an ok job till then. maybe dimma needs to look a bit harder.
Never see Heppell doing these roles. He usually plays a loose man "Grigg" type role.
murphy was bog ok job hey.
on heppell all i can say is take the blinkers off. he actually wins a fair bit more contested ball than conca does. in fact hes what you would call well rounded. the simple fact he has the ability to create space and buy time and has a bit of awareness makes him look out side.
in conca to date all ive seen is a average player at best.
heppell doesnt get run with roles those roles because hes an actual play maker. what a poor excuse. usually its the average types who get the run with roles anyway.
as far as performance and output goes heppell is currently the length of the flemington straight in front. as far as attributes for the game goes heppell also wins hands down atm.
why is it so hard just to be honest with ourselves, why are we so churlish when it comes to opposition players. theres nothing to be ahamed about that heppell is the better player atm and thus far thru his career. we should at least be objective and honest enough to admit it.
I haven't got blinkers, I just feel that Conca has upside but hasn't yet reached the heights he can. This is due to injury. He came to Richmond with bone spurs in his feet and now has finally got over them only to have a serious hamstring injury. Heppell has has an injury free run. I never said Heppell wasn't a good player. I just see him as a much better version of Grigg.
I agree that so far Heppell is ahead by a fair way but if Conca remains uninjured (a very big if) he has the game that would make him surpass Heppell.
I have to agree with Claw. Reece is miles behind Heppell and IMO will be for ever. Not sure what 'game' you think Reece potentially has but I hope you are right, but in reality it's a massive stretch. Reece at best will be a solid soldier, he is not afraid of body contact and enjoys the tough stuff but in terms of skill and footy smarts he will be average at best. Dare I say a 'c' grader. His kicking is below standard but the thing that sticks out like a sore thumb to me is his lack of composure. Kids come into AFL with special qualities, and the way you can see a potential 'a' grader is by their composure and the way they seem to be doing it pretty easy when it comes to being able to get the footy but more importantly get rid of the footy without that panic look all over them.. Heppell has done it since day one and is well on his way to being an 'a' grader. Comparing him to Grigg in any way is just being way off the mark! I hate Essendon more than the average punter but blind Freedy can see Heppell is a star in the making.
We all hope Reece can get better and using excuses of injury doesn't take away the facts that he has struggled at AFL level since his first game. He has played 1 or 2 really good games, 10 or so good games and the rest probably below average for a top 5 pick.
We got it wrong that draft day IMO but only time will tell how wrong.
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I just think he is underdone. He was playing some exciting football last year before he was injured. He has a lot of potential. He will run all day and has excellent footskills. We are seeing the best of Heppell right now but he will not win you the game when the ball needs to be won. He doesn't have the single minded determination that Conca has and I say the jury is still out as too who will be the better player for their club.
Remember that Conca is still a long down in the midfield pecking order at Richmond while Essendon is not blessed with the same quality and depth of talent that we are - particularly going forward. Make Heppell stand out more at this stage too.
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He's a stuffn dud passenger player.
Dumbest 3 year signing in club history.
Now with his body being weak as pee, he's a massive liability.
Would rather have shown some loyalty and stuck with whitey
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I wouldn't be too quick.to discount his value to our squad. Yes he isn't setting the world on fire now but he is 21 and in my view still coming to terms with his role in the squad. I believe his skill level is above average when on song and as he matures as a player he will be on song more often, is and will part of the RFC's blueprint for success moving forward (remembering of course he is also recovering from what was quite a nasty hamstring injury). Some A graders currently running around were not considered A graders at 21, I'll grant you there are 21 year old A graders around but these are more the exception rather than the norm.
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Conca ain't weak
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Concs goes alright but no question Heppel is better. We'd swap now if we could.
Heps has size and real class. Concs ain't got those.
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He has had a slow start to the season, would expect him to turn one on against the Dogs and then go forward from there. Will be a worry if he can't perform next week!!
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Who Conca?
Ooh yeah the guy we took a risk on at pick 6
Another inconsistent performer on our list, in the mould of Titch Tambling
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Could have had Heppell, Caddy, Prestia, Guthrie or Darling I suppose. But you can punish yourself like that every draft.
He's a good player and lots of potential. Clearly just underdone.
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He's a stuffn dud passenger player.
Dumbest 3 year signing in club history.
Now with his body being weak as pee, he's a massive liability.
Would rather have shown some loyalty and stuck with whitey
Come off it ox, this kid wins contested ball in his sleep and will still be going strong long after whiteys hammy pings again,
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Was in great form breaking the lines and may have been one of the reasons the cheats got it over us elimination last year when he broke down, I'll wait a couple more weeks
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All these guys that are bagging Conca must ask themselves one question - how easy would it be if you yourself tore your hamstring off the bone? Most guys here would be on crutches for months. This guy has been able to get back and do modified training. He is clearly underdone but he'll get better.
Give him time to regain his touch. Obviously the brains trust think a 70% fit Conca is better than anything else we have in the VFL. It's not his fault they are playing him!
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He's a stuffn dud passenger player.
Dumbest 3 year signing in club history.
Now with his body being weak as pee, he's a massive liability.
Would rather have shown some loyalty and stuck with whitey
Come off it ox, this kid wins contested ball in his sleep and will still be going strong long after whiteys hammy pings again,
:thumbsup
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I like Conca when he is up and going, got a lot of upside. But right now he is just underdone, should play 2's to get some form and confidence.
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He's a stuffn dud passenger player.
Dumbest 3 year signing in club history.
Now with his body being weak as pee, he's a massive liability.
Would rather have shown some loyalty and stuck with whitey
Luke McGuane says "hello, hello"
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He wins plenty of hard ball and did so Thursday night. Ran out of legs in the last as did many but the kid can play. Massive over reaction by some.
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All these guys that are bagging Conca must ask themselves one question - how easy would it be if you yourself tore your hamstring off the bone? Most guys here would be on crutches for months. This guy has been able to get back and do modified training. He is clearly underdone but he'll get better.
Yep bad injury takes time to get over. From personal experience I did a partial tear in my hammy and it's plagued me ever since. Obviously I didn't take the care and have the experts Conca has, but it does put it into perspective how bad it can be. I didn't play sport for a year just to do it again first game back.
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All these guys that are bagging Conca must ask themselves one question - how easy would it be if you yourself tore your hamstring off the bone? Most guys here would be on crutches for months. This guy has been able to get back and do modified training. He is clearly underdone but he'll get better.
Yep bad injury takes time to get over. From personal experience I did a partial tear in my hammy and it's plagued me ever since. Obviously I didn't take the care and have the experts Conca has, but it does put it into perspective how bad it can be. I didn't play sport for a year just to do it again first game back.
Yep. Some 'supporters' are just ignorant idiots.
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Reece's interview on Talking Tigers ...
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=629318
* I’ve pulled up well. It’s been a bit of a confidence booster. I’m still working on getting the body match fit. Obviously, I’m off a pretty limited pre-season but I’ve pulled up really good and I’m looking forward to this week and just getting another game under the belt.
* It takes a fair while. During pre-season we do a lot of game stimulation stuff - 18 vs 18 – which essentially is almost like a game just not as long a period. They’re pretty important especially pre-Christmas. It holds you in good stead. So when you miss a lot of that you’re a little bit behind. I’ve still only played three full games all year so I’m working on that. I’m doing extra conditioning at training and just trying to get all over it. I think my body’s starting to get in a pretty good spot now.
* Improvement? A bit more composure and times and my kicking efficiency’s probably got to get up a little bit. I want to try and push forward and kick some more goals. You see Cotchy, Lids and Dusty, these sort of guys, who you know are pretty influential with the amount of goals they can kick. So if I can get that up it’d be a really good step in my development. And then obviously defensively I’ve just got to work on some stuff. It’s such a massive part of the game these days.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-04/conca-making-solid-gains
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Cnt find other thread and CBF'd looking for it.
This kid is a liability.
Always gets done fir holding the ball or the man.
Misses goals in front.
Runs like a wacko at a poo fight and is a poofter.
What did anyone see in him or expect him to become ?
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Haven't watched the replay but can say watching at the game last night (ground level at the Gabba) thought he was very good last night his best game this year by a long way
Seriously ;D
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Yeah thought he was pretty good last night, gets in tight for the hard stuff unlike short steppel
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Cnt find other thread and CBF'd looking for it.
This kid is a liability.
Always gets done fir holding the ball or the man.
Misses goals in front.
Runs like a wacko at a poo fight and is a poofter.
What did anyone see in him or expect him to become ?
:clapping
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Cnt find other thread and CBF'd looking for it.
This kid is a liability.
Always gets done fir holding the ball or the man.
Misses goals in front.
Runs like a wacko at a poo fight and is a poofter.
What did anyone see in him or expect him to become ?
Your forum buddies have been asking where you went mate???
http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=bb4e543c723b5c7a8dba185e47466299
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Yeh nah doesn't have it.
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He's going fine. One of the least of our probs.
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Wen to watch saints will
Help ell is awful lady boy
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Wen to watch saints will
Help ell is awful lady boy
Translation?
Something about the Saints, Heppell and lady's boy?
Have to say Heppell was ordinary in the last qtr when the game was on the line, didn't like the body hits ;D
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Went to watch the mighty sainters win
Heppell is a .massive lady-boy
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I like conca, Not sure where all the hate is coming from. He seems to take the game on a little more than a lot of our players, which I like.
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Was his best game v lions, hope he builds on it
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Dropped 5-10% these players we needed to lift 5% harsh but reality he's costing us
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Can't find Ellis thread but his the same
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Have to say Heppell was ordinary in the last qtr when the game was on the line, didn't like the body hits ;D
Heppell easily pushed off the ball by a 19 year old resulting in a St Kilda goal :whistle. At least Conca wins some hard footy.
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Heppell was tagged for the first time in his career. A little different when you're not allowed to waltz around getting cheapies. Conca is building into the season nicely after a very interrupted pre season.
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Heppell is a fairy footballer, albeit a talented one.
Quite a different fish to Reece.
Prefer Heppell's outside game and he'd be a better fit for us right now.
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Would take Heppell on 1 leg that Conca as it stands right at the moment
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Don't have to be Nostradamus to pick that, Heppel would be getting bagged for the soft player he is
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Have to say Heppell was ordinary in the last qtr when the game was on the line, didn't like the body hits ;D
Heppell easily pushed off the ball by a 19 year old resulting in a St Kilda goal :whistle. At least Conca wins some hard footy.
:clapping Conca is building his engine after injuries have hampered his pre season yet again. Wins the hard ball and is a great decision maker. The kid can play and will only get better :shh
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Don't have to be Nostradamus to pick that, Heppel would be getting bagged for the soft player he is
100% correct Chucky! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Stop dealing in hypos
Let's deal with facts
Heppell poos on conca now
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Stop dealing in hypos
Let's deal with facts
Heppell poos on conca now
Prescribe him some lomotil.
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Stop dealing in hypos
Let's deal with facts
Heppell poos on conca now
Heppel.wasn't pooing on anyone last night
Awful
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Conca was very good on Thursday night
I was at the game and based on what I saw gave him my 3 votes
His work off the ball defensively was outstanding, his tackling great and his gut running excellent
Watched the replay today and can say all the things I've mentioned certainly didn't show up on the TV, mores the pity
One thing you can say about Reece is he doesn't shirk a contest or duck his head. ;D
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Conca was very good on Thursday night
I was at the game and based on what I saw gave him my 3 votes
His work off the ball defensively was outstanding, his tackling great and his gut running excellent
Watched the replay today and can say all the things I've mentioned certainly didn't show up on the TV, mores the pity
One thing you can say about Reece is he doesn't shirk a contest or duck his head. ;D
l have always said that WP. you dont see half on TV that you see at the game Live. & you certainly cant hear the Tiger Army sitting in a armchair ;D makes me all warm & fuzzy
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I just wonder how this thread would pan out if Heppell played for us and Conca played for the Bombers - particularly if the pre seasons and injuries wereswapped....
Stop dealing in hypos
Let's deal with facts
Heppell poos on conca now
Heppel.wasn't pooing on anyone last night
Awful
agree he was beaten but hey hes done enough to warrant a tight tag.just the sheer amount of ball hes had meant it had to happen.
the only players we have who demand that sort of attention is cotch or deledio. i kind a remember just a week ago one trent cotchin not coping too well with a tight tag either.
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Seemed to get beaten by first year players and was Grigg like in his lack of willingness to get to the contest and get dirty ie hard ball or impacting contest
We have every get tagged. Mcdonuts was tagged in his first game
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When Conca is being tagged we know he'll have made it.
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
They look good with great potential but once tigeritis sets in there is no hope for them except maybe getting traded to a successful club like Geelong and after a couple of seasons of detoxing they might be able to cure them and hopeful turn their career around into sustained success ie B. Ottens
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
He's not 'ruined'.
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Conca was very good on Thursday night
I was at the game and based on what I saw gave him my 3 votes
His work off the ball defensively was outstanding, his tackling great and his gut running excellent
Watched the replay today and can say all the things I've mentioned certainly didn't show up on the TV, mores the pity
One thing you can say about Reece is he doesn't shirk a contest or duck his head. ;D
Watched the game again last night and in my view, Conca was our best as highlighted by WP
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
They look good with great potential but once tigeritis sets in there is no hope for them except maybe getting traded to a successful club like Geelong and after a couple of seasons of detoxing they might be able to cure them and hopeful turn their career around into sustained success ie B. Ottens
You nust have a poo memory. Ottens was fantastic at Richmond. He injured his back falling out of a tree leading to foot drop and he was forced to go under the knife and have a microdiscectomy. He was paid by the club at full pay for a year. He wanted a pay increase after being out for that time. The club baulked and Geelong offered him what he wanted and he left.
He never had tigeritis.
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Ottens. Best kick for goal at Richmond since Roach.
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Ottens: biggest mercenary in recent times at punt road
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Otto was just ahead of the game.
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
They look good with great potential but once tigeritis sets in there is no hope for them except maybe getting traded to a successful club like Geelong and after a couple of seasons of detoxing they might be able to cure them and hopeful turn their career around into sustained success ie B. Ottens
You nust have a poo memory. Ottens was fantastic at Richmond. He injured his back falling out of a tree leading to foot drop and he was forced to go under the knife and have a microdiscectomy. He was paid by the club at full pay for a year. He wanted a pay increase after being out for that time. The club baulked and Geelong offered him what he wanted and he left.
He never had tigeritis.
"Ottens was fantastic at Richmond" yeah a real team player till the end. Please
I have a good memory son and you can sugar coat it as best you can
Ottens never gave his all to the club probably cause we never have if to him, much like Schultz if you ask me.
You forget what he was like in his last few years. Half arsed attempts at rick contests, no endeavour no effort
Don't even need to look at the stats to know his last 2 years were rubbish. Reality is it wasn't his fault we just didn't know what to do with him like Schultz. Can see similarities in Jack's development too club directing him lose that weight so he can run up the ground. Haha
What a howler of a mistake that has stuffed our year thus far
Still after so many years we have no idea
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I'm a fan of Conca and his love of the contest. And not mention the conca cuddles he gives. He really is the least of our problems in regards to our senior list.
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Overdue, ready for a blinder!
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
They look good with great potential but once tigeritis sets in there is no hope for them except maybe getting traded to a successful club like Geelong and after a couple of seasons of detoxing they might be able to cure them and hopeful turn their career around into sustained success ie B. Ottens
You nust have a poo memory. Ottens was fantastic at Richmond. He injured his back falling out of a tree leading to foot drop and he was forced to go under the knife and have a microdiscectomy. He was paid by the club at full pay for a year. He wanted a pay increase after being out for that time. The club baulked and Geelong offered him what he wanted and he left.
He never had tigeritis.
Ha ha. It took Geelong at least a full season to get rid of his apathy & lethargy.
At the end his heart wasn't in it at Richmond as he was a shadow of the player he was when he arrived. But that what happens to players at Richmond.
Anyway I don't blame the fellow, he didn't want to be an administrator he wanted to be a 3 time premiership player and who could blame him for wanting to leave a rabble.
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Does more than most realise.
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Another player with promise ruined by Tigeritis.
They look good with great potential but once tigeritis sets in there is no hope for them except maybe getting traded to a successful club like Geelong and after a couple of seasons of detoxing they might be able to cure them and hopeful turn their career around into sustained success ie B. Ottens
You nust have a poo memory. Ottens was fantastic at Richmond. He injured his back falling out of a tree leading to foot drop and he was forced to go under the knife and have a microdiscectomy. He was paid by the club at full pay for a year. He wanted a pay increase after being out for that time. The club baulked and Geelong offered him what he wanted and he left.
He never had tigeritis.
Ha ha. It took Geelong at least a full season to get rid of his apathy & lethargy.
At the end his heart wasn't in it at Richmond as he was a shadow of the player he was when he arrived. But that what happens to players at Richmond.
Anyway I don't blame the fellow, he didn't want to be an administrator he wanted to be a 3 time premiership player and who could blame him for wanting to leave a rabble.
actually, it took him 2 seasons + to get over back surgery, but don't let small things like the truth get in the way......
agree though, you cant blame him for wanting out.
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Does more than most realise.
yep :thumbsup
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Heppell won more Anzac medals
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Does more than most realise.
he probably does but the heppell comparison is always thrown up and what hes done gets lost to a degree.
me im happy to leave heppell out of it but when people readily put the boots into heppell and talk conca up i reckon some balance is required.
its like people want their cake and eat it too.
if heppell has been shiizen so too has conca. i dont get why we as supporters have to put down a better performed player when comparing them for no other reason than they are from another club. we cant have it both ways.
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The reality of where both players are at is a lot more boring than most care to say.
Heppel has been pretty good player though overrated by a lot of the Melbourne media as the next coming of Pendlebury.
Conca has flown under the radar but is nowhere near as bad as some make out. He too is trekking pretty well.
Conca B-
Heppell B
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Does more than most realise.
yep :thumbsup
Exactly I can't understand some if the vitriol given the teams poor results.
Has played some decent footy for us this year and since he got drafted.
Would want more Conca's than Titch Edwards thats for sure.
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Heppell won more Anzac medals
Really?
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The reality of where both players are at is a lot more boring than most care to say.
Heppel has been pretty good player though overrated by a lot of the Melbourne media as the next coming of Pendlebury.
Conca has flown under the radar but is nowhere near as bad as some make out. He too is trekking pretty well.
Conca B-
Heppell B
Well that's one opinion anyway....
Code for not being very good- "flown under the radar"
If Conca is a B- then Heppell is an A grader.
The only player that is overrated in this is Reece Conca. He is a poohouse kick, fumbles more than Mumbles the clown and panics more with the footy in hand than most want to admit.
Conca is by no means our worst player but for a pick 6 he is a massive disappointment.
I don't dislike Conca but reality has to step in occasionally and it's telling me he will be an average player at best that seems to be a good team man and a well like kid by all but just not very good.
Anyway that's my opinion and I'm happy to stand by it.
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The reality of where both players are at is a lot more boring than most care to say.
Heppel has been pretty good player though overrated by a lot of the Melbourne media as the next coming of Pendlebury.
Conca has flown under the radar but is nowhere near as bad as some make out. He too is trekking pretty well.
Conca B-
Heppell B
Well that's one opinion anyway....
Code for not being very good- "flown under the radar"
If Conca is a B- then Heppell is an A grader.
The only player that is overrated in this is Reece Conca. He is a poohouse kick, fumbles more than Mumbles the clown and panics more with the footy in hand than most want to admit.
Conca is by no means our worst player but for a pick 6 he is a massive disappointment.
I don't dislike Conca but reality has to step in occasionally and it's telling me he will be an average player at best that seems to be a good team man and a well like kid by all but just not very good.
Anyway that's my opinion and I'm happy to stand by it.
I agree. I too expected more.
But he may be already infected by the disease so it may not be his fault.
Poor bastard.
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The reality of where both players are at is a lot more boring than most care to say.
Heppel has been pretty good player though overrated by a lot of the Melbourne media as the next coming of Pendlebury.
Conca has flown under the radar but is nowhere near as bad as some make out. He too is trekking pretty well.
Conca B-
Heppell B
Well that's one opinion anyway....
Code for not being very good- "flown under the radar"
If Conca is a B- then Heppell is an A grader.
The only player that is overrated in this is Reece Conca. He is a poohouse kick, fumbles more than Mumbles the clown and panics more with the footy in hand than most want to admit.
Conca is by no means our worst player but for a pick 6 he is a massive disappointment.
I don't dislike Conca but reality has to step in occasionally and it's telling me he will be an average player at best that seems to be a good team man and a well like kid by all but just not very good.
Anyway that's my opinion and I'm happy to stand by it.
I agree. I too expected more.
But he may be already infected by the disease so it may not be his fault.
Poor bastard.
Yeah I agree too and hope we really see what he can do, which is, what I believe to be much better than average.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
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What BT said ^
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
You only answered one of my three questions before going off on some "he is such a nice guy rate"
This is AFL footy YBB, if you think being a nice guy is someone's best talent than maybe you have answer all my questions at once.
Also no need to get all weird about it, I was only asking your opinion on Reece, since I know you rate him. I thought maybe you could give me something to look at for tomorrow, but looking for a nice guy is pretty hard from level 2.
Light up pal! :thumbsup
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
:clapping
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we played two good quarters of footy against the bears (allowing for the crap conversion rate in the first).
Conca's work through the midfield was instrumental in those periods of play.
and he was winning his own ball, not feeding off the hard work of others.
You don't have to look flashy to be effective.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
You only answered one of my three questions before going off on some "he is such a nice guy rate"
This is AFL footy YBB, if you think being a nice guy is someone's best talent than maybe you have answer all my questions at once.
Also no need to get all weird about it, I was only asking your opinion on Reece, since I know you rate him. I thought maybe you could give me something to look at for tomorrow, but looking for a nice guy is pretty hard from level 2.
Light up pal! :thumbsup
Ok...
To the ones I didn't answer….
I rate about 25% of his games as very good, 25% as good, 25% as a bare pass and 25% that could have been much better. Not too bad for someone who was thrust into the team a very early and with the injuries he has sustained. And don't forget, he has been assigned tagging roles by the coach and many times he has sacrificed his game to carry out the job.
The question really is how many of his next 57 games will be rated as good? Time will tell and in the next 3 seasons we will see if he was worth the pick "6" the club picked him up as. To date he hasn't lived up to what a pick 6 is suppose to have done (whatever the hell that's supposed to be) but I did say there were good reasons for that which you have continually failed to acknowledge.
And while we're at it let's look at the last ten years of pick 6:
2004: Tom Williams (WB)
2005: Beau Dowler (Hawks)
2006: Mitch Thorp (Hawks)
2007: David Myers (Bombers)
2008: Chris Yarran (Blues)
2009: Gary Rohan (Swans)
2011: Chad Wingard (Power)
2012: Jackson Macrae (WB)
2013: Matthew Scharenberg (Pies)
Out of that list I would have thought only 3 of the players listed have clearly been better than Reece who wasn't a real pick 6 anyway. What do you think?
As for the nice guy part, you are twisting my words. I said his greatest strength was his character, not being a nice guy. Do I really need to explain what that actually means? Well if you are so challenged you don't know, I will explain. Guys with strong characters are more likely to apply themselves and improve. They generally listen to the coach and carry out what is required to the best of their ability. They are better equipped to handle the rigours of AFL footy and also can bring themselves back from hardships like severe injuries (which he has had).
Over to you...
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
Oh boo hoo - what a load of namby pamby crap."Oooh don't ever criticise the players because their mates might read it and they'll cry" Positive reiforcement - stuff me dead this isn't kindergarten or some Dr. Phil/Oprah Californian pop psychology bollocks. If he really has the "strength of character" you say he does then it should be water off a duck's back anyway. Posters like you seem to be unable to grasp the concept of a "discussion forum' or you think they should be just like sitting with the arse lickers in the cheer squad - a bland backslapping echo chamber of "Yay Reecey! Yay Jakey! Yay Griggy! Go Tiges!"
As for puling out the old "real supporters should only cheer & praise our players" card - well sorry but you can stuff right off with that shyte...if you want to play that game then I'll put it to you that "real" supporters - people who really care about this club- aren't the people who just blindly applaud everything the club does but are the people who demand & push it it to be the best it can be , who actually show concern when they feel the club is underachieving , who don't accept mediocrity and yes single out those who we don't believe are up to the job and are therefore letting the club down. Those who are genuinely worried about the future of the club if we go through too many more years of being perpetual losers and fail to attract new fans from the younger generations. People, I might add, who've generally put more money & time into this club than most of the loudmouth so-called "brightsiders" who like to dictate to everyone the supposed "correct" way of supporting the club.
Players & coaches come and go, they're just employees - it's the club we care about.
As for Conca - our skills & disposal are woeful through the middle and he's one of the main offenders. Pick 6 for what's essentially a slight upgrade on Shane Tuck is massive overs IMO.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
Oh boo hoo - what a load of namby pamby crap."Oooh don't ever criticise the players because their mates might read it and they'll cry" Positive reiforcement - stuff me dead this isn't kindergarten or some Dr. Phil/Oprah Californian pop psychology bollocks. If he really has the "strength of character" you say he does then it should be water off a duck's back anyway. Posters like you seem to be unable to grasp the concept of a "discussion forum' or you think they should be just like sitting with the arse lickers in the cheer squad - a bland backslapping echo chamber of "Yay Reecey! Yay Jakey! Yay Griggy! Go Tiges!"
As for puling out the old "real supporters should only cheer & praise our players" card - well sorry but you can stuff right off with that shyte...if you want to play that game then I'll put it to you that "real" supporters - people who really care about this club- aren't the people who just blindly applaud everything the club does but are the people who demand & push it it to be the best it can be , who actually show concern when they feel the club is underachieving , who don't accept mediocrity and yes single out those who we don't believe are up to the job and are therefore letting the club down. Those who are genuinely worried about the future of the club if we go through too many more years of being perpetual losers and fail to attract new fans from the younger generations. People, I might add, who've generally put more money & time into this club than most of the loudmouth so-called "brightsiders" who like to dictate to everyone the correct manner of supporting the club and what opinions they should have.
As for Conca - our skills & disposal are woeful through the middle and he's one of the main offenders. Pick 6 for what's essentially a slight upgrade on Shane Tuck is massive overs.
I can almost guarantee you that I have put more money over the last 50 years into the club than you. So just wack off.
If you read my posts you will see I am critical as well towards the club. I don't need idiots like you telling me off for pandering to the club.
In the case of individual young players who have gone through hell to make it, I will always defend. They don't need armchair critics like you who know stuff all to start laying in the boots and then saying they're weak if they can't take it. A real supporter DOES support the youth in the club and tries to make it an environment they want to excel in, not a friggen nazi prison where they are afraid to take a risk or they will be shot by their supporters.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
You only answered one of my three questions before going off on some "he is such a nice guy rate"
This is AFL footy YBB, if you think being a nice guy is someone's best talent than maybe you have answer all my questions at once.
Also no need to get all weird about it, I was only asking your opinion on Reece, since I know you rate him. I thought maybe you could give me something to look at for tomorrow, but looking for a nice guy is pretty hard from level 2.
Light up pal! :thumbsup
Ok...
To the ones I didn't answer….
I rate about 25% of his games as very good, 25% as good, 25% as a bare pass and 25% that could have been much better. Not too bad for someone who was thrust into the team a very early and with the injuries he has sustained. And don't forget, he has been assigned tagging roles by the coach and many times he has sacrificed his game to carry out the job.
The question really is how many of his next 57 games will be rated as good? Time will tell and in the next 3 seasons we will see if he was worth the pick "6" the club picked him up as. To date he hasn't lived up to what a pick 6 is suppose to have done (whatever the hell that's supposed to be) but I did say there were good reasons for that which you have continually failed to acknowledge.
And while we're at it let's look at the last ten years of pick 6:
2004: Tom Williams (WB)
2005: Beau Dowler (Hawks)
2006: Mitch Thorp (Hawks)
2007: David Myers (Bombers)
2008: Chris Yarran (Blues)
2009: Gary Rohan (Swans)
2011: Chad Wingard (Power)
2012: Jackson Macrae (WB)
2013: Matthew Scharenberg (Pies)
Out of that list I would have thought only 3 of the players listed have clearly been better than Reece who wasn't a real pick 6 anyway. What do you think?
As for the nice guy part, you are twisting my words. I said his greatest strength was his character, not being a nice guy. Do I really need to explain what that actually means? Well if you are so challenged you don't know, I will explain. Guys with strong characters are more likely to apply themselves and improve. They generally listen to the coach and carry out what is required to the best of their ability. They are better equipped to handle the rigours of AFL footy and also can bring themselves back from hardships like severe injuries (which he has had).
Over to you...
Pretty sorry bunch of pick 6's if you ask me. I agree probably only 3 have shown more to date than your man Reece. :thumbsup
That's not really the point is it though. Other teams picking duds is not what I am concerned about, it's us that concerns me.
I wasn't going to mention this but I will- I recently (within the last year) met though a mate a recruiter from another club. Now over about 300 beers the stories started to flow, and I thought I would ask about what he thought of at the time we took Reece over Heppell? He and his other recruiter friend just laughed. He said within the recruiting fraternity they all though FJ had lost the plot! And not just because of this one decision.
Now I have cleaned this up a fair bit, but I think you can get the picture.
True story.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
Oh boo hoo - what a load of namby pamby crap."Oooh don't ever criticise the players because their mates might read it and they'll cry" Positive reiforcement - stuff me dead this isn't kindergarten or some Dr. Phil/Oprah Californian pop psychology bollocks. If he really has the "strength of character" you say he does then it should be water off a duck's back anyway. Posters like you seem to be unable to grasp the concept of a "discussion forum' or you think they should be just like sitting with the arse lickers in the cheer squad - a bland backslapping echo chamber of "Yay Reecey! Yay Jakey! Yay Griggy! Go Tiges!"
As for puling out the old "real supporters should only cheer & praise our players" card - well sorry but you can stuff right off with that shyte...if you want to play that game then I'll put it to you that "real" supporters - people who really care about this club- aren't the people who just blindly applaud everything the club does but are the people who demand & push it it to be the best it can be , who actually show concern when they feel the club is underachieving , who don't accept mediocrity and yes single out those who we don't believe are up to the job and are therefore letting the club down. Those who are genuinely worried about the future of the club if we go through too many more years of being perpetual losers and fail to attract new fans from the younger generations. People, I might add, who've generally put more money & time into this club than most of the loudmouth so-called "brightsiders" who like to dictate to everyone the correct manner of supporting the club and what opinions they should have.
As for Conca - our skills & disposal are woeful through the middle and he's one of the main offenders. Pick 6 for what's essentially a slight upgrade on Shane Tuck is massive overs.
I can almost guarantee you that I have put more money over the last 50 years into the club than you. So just wack off.
If you read my posts you will see I am critical as well towards the club. I don't need idiots like you telling me off for pandering to the club.
In the case of individual young players who have gone through hell to make it, I will always defend. They don't need armchair critics like you who know stuff all to start laying in the boots and then saying they're weak if they can't take it. A real supporter DOES support the youth in the club and tries to make it an environment they want to excel in, not a friggen nazi prison where they are afraid to take a risk or they will be shot by their supporters.
Let's see how much you love him if he takes the money and runs back home to WA next time. We don't owe any overpaid meathead footballer a thing.
If you seriously think what's said on a internet forum effects the players them you're either a fool or you've never been to an actual game in your life and heard what's said over the fence.
As for your other dribble, I said brightsiders in general not you personally so get your hand off it flog , not interested in a peeing contest or hearing about your long service record or the 2 and 6 you've put in every year since Max Oppy was coach, so kindly go stuff yourself on that score.
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Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
The guy has not had a full preseason yet!
Reserve your harsh judgement till that has been completed please.
Excuses, excuses. He's been fit enough to play 57 games out of a possible 72 so far and every game this year.
Used pick 6 on a pick 36 standard player.
Tool.
Looks like you misspelt "truth" there, champ. Nevermind, you'll get there one day.
Being fit enough to get on the park and having a full preseason that instills you with confidence in your body to lift your game to the next level are two very different things!
Have you ever played a competitive sport at an elite level? It's not like kick to kick at school.
It's not an excuse mate, it's a fact.
I've played various sports at a high level and even been paid for it on the odd occasion but no, I've never been a full-time professional athlete....have you?
How many uninterrupted pre-seasons has Cotchin had over the years?
I haven't but have had relatives that have been full time pros. The amount of work they do with heir bodies to prepare is amazing. They would constantly tell me how preseasons would set up the whole year.
Cotchin is a freak. It's not fair comparing anyone with him
I get you think Reece hasn't done a full pre-season, we all get it. But having said that, he has played 57 games, how would you rate those 57 games? Genuine question.
Do you think to date he is worth pick 6?
And lastly, what is it you see in him that you think will improve to the point of being an A grader?
IMO he may have missed some pre-seasons and I don't even know if it's all since he has been at Tigerland, but you don't have to 100% fit to be able to hit targets! NOT FUMBLE, or show some class when you do have the footy.
All Reece has shown so far is that he is a pretty good tackler and he loves a cuddle.
Firstly it's not his fault he has been picked in the firsts when not 100% fit. We have had poo reserves teams to send him to and develop there, so when he came in he was thrown to the sword in the firsts.
And he wasn't a true number 6 pick as there were the 12 prelisted 17 year olds taken by the Gold Coast in 2009 that would have gone early in 2010. So get your ******* facts right before you ask questions!
Yes there have been a few players taken after him that have played better thus far. But guess what? If you look at each of these players one thing is common to all of them. They haven't had any serous injuries that have required surgery. Reece has gone under the knife 3 times since he has been with us. This has enabled them to fast track their development compared to Reece.
What I see in Reece is a competitive player who has pace and who has a defensive game and an attacking game. When his game has been up he has kicked multiple goals. This is his great strength. He should be a goal kicking mid. These types of players are very valuable.
I am happy to wait as he is still young and I think he has much upside. He just needs a decent run with injury. Our recruiters are not Nostradamus in predicting injuries in the future too, so criticizing them is premature. I still think his greatest strength is his character. He is a good kid with a level head on his shoulders. He is a good team man who is good to have around the club.
It's amazing what effect positive reinforcement has on the psyche. It's also amazing what a deleterious effect these negative rants have on players. They may not read them but others do and pass on sentiments.
FFS get off his back and give him support and encouragement. If you really love the club, you will.
Oh boo hoo - what a load of namby pamby crap."Oooh don't ever criticise the players because their mates might read it and they'll cry" Positive reiforcement - stuff me dead this isn't kindergarten or some Dr. Phil/Oprah Californian pop psychology bollocks. If he really has the "strength of character" you say he does then it should be water off a duck's back anyway. Posters like you seem to be unable to grasp the concept of a "discussion forum' or you think they should be just like sitting with the arse lickers in the cheer squad - a bland backslapping echo chamber of "Yay Reecey! Yay Jakey! Yay Griggy! Go Tiges!"
As for puling out the old "real supporters should only cheer & praise our players" card - well sorry but you can stuff right off with that shyte...if you want to play that game then I'll put it to you that "real" supporters - people who really care about this club- aren't the people who just blindly applaud everything the club does but are the people who demand & push it it to be the best it can be , who actually show concern when they feel the club is underachieving , who don't accept mediocrity and yes single out those who we don't believe are up to the job and are therefore letting the club down. Those who are genuinely worried about the future of the club if we go through too many more years of being perpetual losers and fail to attract new fans from the younger generations. People, I might add, who've generally put more money & time into this club than most of the loudmouth so-called "brightsiders" who like to dictate to everyone the correct manner of supporting the club and what opinions they should have.
As for Conca - our skills & disposal are woeful through the middle and he's one of the main offenders. Pick 6 for what's essentially a slight upgrade on Shane Tuck is massive overs.
I can almost guarantee you that I have put more money over the last 50 years into the club than you. So just wack off.
If you read my posts you will see I am critical as well towards the club. I don't need idiots like you telling me off for pandering to the club.
In the case of individual young players who have gone through hell to make it, I will always defend. They don't need armchair critics like you who know stuff all to start laying in the boots and then saying they're weak if they can't take it. A real supporter DOES support the youth in the club and tries to make it an environment they want to excel in, not a friggen nazi prison where they are afraid to take a risk or they will be shot by their supporters.
Let's see how much you love him if he takes the money and runs back home to WA next time. We don't owe any overpaid meathead footballer a thing.
If you seriously think what's said on a internet forum effects the players them you're either a fool or you've never been to an actual game in your life and heard what's said over the fence.
As for your other dribble, I said brightsiders in general not you personally so get your hand off it flog , not interested in a peeing contest or hearing about your long service record or the 2 and 6 you've put in every year since Max Oppy was coach, so kindly go stuff yourself on that score.
Now that made me laugh.
I like the cut of your jib Diocletian. :gotigers
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
In your not so humble opinion only Coach.
And who gives a rats you know what about that!
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
In your not so humble opinion only Coach.
And who gives a rats you know what about that!
How many times did Tuck finish top 5 in our B&F? And how many times has your lovechild Conca? Obviously you've cracked it and you now don't rate the great mans (me) opinion. However, you constantly swing from the clubs nuts so you would rate their opinion, wouldn't you? They rated Tuck ahead of Conca. Not sure he was an upgrade mmm
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
In your not so humble opinion only Coach.
And who gives a rats you know what about that!
How many times did Tuck finish top 5 in our B&F? And how many times has your lovechild Conca? Obviously you've cracked it and you now don't rate the great mans (me) opinion. However, you constantly swing from the clubs nuts so you would rate their opinion, wouldn't you? They rated Tuck ahead of Conca. Not sure he was an upgrade mmm
Ok oh great one. When Tuck was 19, 20 and 21 what exactly had he done in his illustrious career? You have to compare apples with apples after all.
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
In your not so humble opinion only Coach.
And who gives a rats you know what about that!
How many times did Tuck finish top 5 in our B&F? And how many times has your lovechild Conca? Obviously you've cracked it and you now don't rate the great mans (me) opinion. However, you constantly swing from the clubs nuts so you would rate their opinion, wouldn't you? They rated Tuck ahead of Conca. Not sure he was an upgrade mmm
Ok oh great one. When Tuck was 19, 20 and 21 what exactly had he done in his illustrious career? You have to compare apples with apples after all.
What does that have to do with anything? It was said Conca was an upgrade on Tuck. Clearly he hasn't played better football than Shane Tuck. He hasn't been an upgrade on him at all. Birth certificates have nothing to do with that.
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Conca isn't a slight upgrade on Tuck. Not in the old fellas league I am afraid.
In your not so humble opinion only Coach.
And who gives a rats you know what about that!
How many times did Tuck finish top 5 in our B&F? And how many times has your lovechild Conca? Obviously you've cracked it and you now don't rate the great mans (me) opinion. However, you constantly swing from the clubs nuts so you would rate their opinion, wouldn't you? They rated Tuck ahead of Conca. Not sure he was an upgrade mmm
Ok oh great one. When Tuck was 19, 20 and 21 what exactly had he done in his illustrious career? You have to compare apples with apples after all.
What does that have to do with anything? It was said Conca was an upgrade on Tuck. Clearly he hasn't played better football than Shane Tuck. He hasn't been an upgrade on him at all. Birth certificates have nothing to do with that.
It has everything to do with it.
You can only say Conca is not an upgrade on Tuck once he has matured as a player and learnt the ropes. You are comparing a kids output to a wily hardened veteran. That is not a fair comparison. We picked Conca so that when he is 23 to 30 he is at his peak and playing good football. I'm not saying he will be a superstar. What I am saying is we should all give him a chance to show us if he will be. Many people are closing the door on the kid before he has had a chance to become a mature player. I disagree with that approach.
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It was said he was an upgrade on Tuck. He isn't. Not yet, he may never be. Maybe he'll win 7 B&Fs but right now he's not better than Tuck was in his prime. That's what I'm arguing.
Going by what you've said then I can say Ty Vickery might be an upgrade on Matthew Richardson...we just can't rule it out until Vickery gets to a certain age.
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In all honesty I do support Reece. I just don't rate him that highly.... Yet.... And that's fair I recon.
As for that other cat Ellis, I find it extremely hard..... And that's fair I recon too.
You know when there's one you just cannot cop, that Ellis for me.
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It was said he was an upgrade on Tuck. He isn't. Not yet, he may never be. Maybe he'll win 7 B&Fs but right now he's not better than Tuck was in his prime. That's what I'm arguing.
Going by what you've said then I can say Ty Vickery might be an upgrade on Matthew Richardson...we just can't rule it out until Vickery gets to a certain age.
Well he might be, but I doubt it. Can you tell me everything about the future? I certainly cannot. Vickery needs to learn to have defensive aspect to his game and we all can see that. He needs to learn some footy smarts. He has been in the system 2 years longer than Reece as well and so he needs to show improvement faster. But again, you cannot be absolutely certain about anything. Comparing him to Matty Richardson is unfair too. How many players do you think would be an upgrade to Richo. Just by chance alone, the number would be extremely low as he is one of the Richmond greats. A little unfair don't you think.
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It gets a bit frustrating watching our premium draft picks develop over such a long period of time, then to see a Luke Dunstan at pick 18 waltz in and play like he has 200 games under his belt. When can we get one of those?
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In all honesty I do support Reece. I just don't rate him that highly.... Yet.... And that's fair I recon.
As for that other cat Ellis, I find it extremely hard..... And that's fair I recon too.
You know when there's one you just cannot cop, that Ellis for me.
I don't disagree with that at all.
I just hate it when people say we should have, could have, didn't do etc etc etc.
It doesn't help the situation at all. We are in a certain situation. We need to accept it and work out a way to improve it. If this means supporting those guys still in development and encouraging them to be better players, then that is what we should do.
If we come to a point where we see no further improvement is possible and their output is not up to scratch then we trade or delist.
I just don't think we are anywhere near that situation with Conca or Ellis. I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
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It gets a bit frustrating watching our premium draft picks develop over such a long period of time, then to see a Luke Dunstan at pick 18 waltz in and play like he has 200 games under his belt. When can we get one of those?
You're not the only one with that frustration. We all think like that because we yearn success.
What you must understand is that we were not the only ones that did not select him. Most rated Lennon ahead of Dunstan. We haven't had the chance to see Ben but what I can say is that he is an exciting talent with weapons that are potentially better than Dunstan's. Luke always had a more mature body to start with and so was likely to show more early. What's most important is who has the best output over their career? Hopefully it will be Lennon but it is an inexact science and nobody could be sure.
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In all honesty I do support Reece. I just don't rate him that highly.... Yet.... And that's fair I recon.
As for that other cat Ellis, I find it extremely hard..... And that's fair I recon too.
You know when there's one you just cannot cop, that Ellis for me.
I don't disagree with that at all.
I just hate it when people say we should have, could have, didn't do etc etc etc.
It doesn't help the situation at all. We are in a certain situation. We need to accept it and work out a way to improve it. If this means supporting those guys still in development and encouraging them to be better players, then that is what we should do.
If we come to a point where we see no further improvement is possible and their output is not up to scratch then we trade or delist.
I just don't think we are anywhere near that situation with Conca or Ellis. I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
Happy to debate about Reece till the cows come home, and as I have said I like the kid, I just don't rate him yet.
But you are wasting your time with Ellis and myself. I have said it from day one and a few on here can vouch for me on that, I can't stand the kid. But I also don't want to shove that down people's throats like some others do about certain players so won't go on.
I hope he can prove me wrong but I doubt it.
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In all honesty I do support Reece. I just don't rate him that highly.... Yet.... And that's fair I recon.
As for that other cat Ellis, I find it extremely hard..... And that's fair I recon too.
You know when there's one you just cannot cop, that Ellis for me.
I don't disagree with that at all.
I just hate it when people say we should have, could have, didn't do etc etc etc.
It doesn't help the situation at all. We are in a certain situation. We need to accept it and work out a way to improve it. If this means supporting those guys still in development and encouraging them to be better players, then that is what we should do.
If we come to a point where we see no further improvement is possible and their output is not up to scratch then we trade or delist.
I just don't think we are anywhere near that situation with Conca or Ellis. I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
Happy to debate about Reece till the cows come home, and as I have said I like the kid, I just don't rate him yet.
But you are wasting your time with Ellis and myself. I have said it from day one and a few on here can vouch for me on that, I can't stand the kid. But I also don't want to shove that down people's throats like some others do about certain players so won't go on.
I hope he can prove me wrong but I doubt it.
Don't forget Ellis was also only choice 15, not pick 3. So far he has been ok for that pick. I agree he has much to improve on, like risking head and shin. However he has bad examples like Houli and Grigg to copy and they won't win any bravery awards. Unfortunately our youngsters haven't got the best examples to learn off…..
Imagine Ellis at Geelong. Bartels, Selwood, Enright, Stevie J, etc etc they would all lead by example and he would copy because that's how you play your football. At Richmond we have Cotch, Morro…….ummmmm ???? not may others to learn bravery from.
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In all honesty I do support Reece. I just don't rate him that highly.... Yet.... And that's fair I recon.
As for that other cat Ellis, I find it extremely hard..... And that's fair I recon too.
You know when there's one you just cannot cop, that Ellis for me.
I don't disagree with that at all.
I just hate it when people say we should have, could have, didn't do etc etc etc.
It doesn't help the situation at all. We are in a certain situation. We need to accept it and work out a way to improve it. If this means supporting those guys still in development and encouraging them to be better players, then that is what we should do.
If we come to a point where we see no further improvement is possible and their output is not up to scratch then we trade or delist.
I just don't think we are anywhere near that situation with Conca or Ellis. I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
Happy to debate about Reece till the cows come home, and as I have said I like the kid, I just don't rate him yet.
But you are wasting your time with Ellis and myself. I have said it from day one and a few on here can vouch for me on that, I can't stand the kid. But I also don't want to shove that down people's throats like some others do about certain players so won't go on.
I hope he can prove me wrong but I doubt it.
Don't forget Ellis was also only choice 15, not pick 3. So far he has been ok for that pick. I agree he has much to improve on, like risking head and shin. However he has bad examples like Houli and Grigg to copy and they won't win any bravery awards. Unfortunately our youngsters haven't got the best examples to learn off….. :bang head
Imagine Ellis at Geelong. Bartels, Selwood, Enright, Stevie J, etc etc they would all lead by example and he would copy because that's how you play your football. At Richmond we have Cotch, Morro…….ummmmm ???? not may others to learn bravery from.
For me it's not just about putting your head over the footy, because young kids can be excused at times but when I say he plays scared I mean in the worst way possible IMO and these are things young kids shouldn't be scared of and that's scared to pick out a target and kick it to him. He will ALWAYS kick it sides or backwards or down the line to a contest. You cannot blame anyone else for that!
As I said I don't want to go on about it and I'm happy for people to disagree but that's just how I see it.
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It gets a bit frustrating watching our premium draft picks develop over such a long period of time, then to see a Luke Dunstan at pick 18 waltz in and play like he has 200 games under his belt. When can we get one of those?
Just happen to stumble on an old post :whistle of Ramps and myself regarding drafting Mr Dunstan :lol
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Quote from: Rampstar on October 26, 2013, 05:56:12 PM
I still hoping we go for Luke Dunstan. You can never have enough of this type of player in the midfield IMHO.
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Totally agree on Dunstan. The way he moves, his body shape and his running style remind me a bit of Dane Swan. Wouldn't that be nice!
Also has a bit of X factor, which after the last 3 drafts IMO we could do with.
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You make a bit of sense coach, concas best is fairly decent, his challenge is to set a consistent standard that will see him finish well inside top 10 of bf , he needs to step up to do that
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It gets a bit frustrating watching our premium draft picks develop over such a long period of time, then to see a Luke Dunstan at pick 18 waltz in and play like he has 200 games under his belt. When can we get one of those?
Just happen to stumble on an old post :whistle of Ramps and myself regarding drafting Mr Dunstan :lol
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I still hoping we go for Luke Dunstan. You can never have enough of this type of player in the midfield IMHO.
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Totally agree on Dunstan. The way he moves, his body shape and his running style remind me a bit of Dane Swan. Wouldn't that be nice!
Also has a bit of X factor, which after the last 3 drafts IMO we could do with.
well done guys.
Lets just see what our boy Benny can do. Followed him as a junior - he was a gun there. Represented Victoria as far back as under 12s (also under 15,16 and 17s!). Had a good season with the Northern Knights too.
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Is he playing tomorrow is he ?
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Is he playing tomorrow is he ?
No unfortunately. we are keeping him in that dud VFL outfit….
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the old put em on a pedestal syndrome before they have done a thing is alive and well.
atm it seems more likely we have a good solid footsoldier in conca than a A/B GRADER. To me for a top 10 pick that is not good enough. i dont aim my angst at conca here we have at least a decent player my angst is aimed at the club for the continual low bar that is set when it comes to nd picks.
to get better we just have to address this part of the footy dept.
it really ius like people are just so relieved that 1st rounders are not total busts they lose sight of the fact we should be doing better with these picks.
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I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
Yep.
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I think the club erred by making Ellis the face of the club at such an early age too. It can distract young men and make them think they are better than they are. Bad move by the club.
Yep.
Absolutely spot on
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Ellis has more than justified his draft position. If you people cant see that your blind as a bat.
Ellis is fine. Playing poorly but next to hacks like Grigg, Newman and Edwards he is in brownlow medal form,
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Back to Reece.
Hope he has a good game today to silence the many critics!
:gotigers
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Was Conca an actually pick #6
Or did the afl ass smack that draft/talent pool?
Elllis was bad choice as poster boy
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Ellis has more than justified his draft position. If you people cant see that your blind as a bat.
Ellis is fine. Playing poorly but next to hacks like Grigg, Newman and Edwards he is in brownlow medal form,
True, I'd prefer we made Ellis the face of the club than Grigga.
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Was Conca an actually pick #6
He was pick 6. However GC had aready picked 12 of the best 17 year olds in 2009. So if all those 17 year olds translated to the best 18 year olds the following year, theoretically Conca could have been as low as pick 18!
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To those who think Reece fumbles and poos himself in close with no awareness need to watch his work in close today thus far
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99 problems but Reece ain't one
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Conca got more balls than most
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Tried hard but kicked the ball horribly today.
Cotch and Conca really butcher the ball far too often.
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Another good game by Conca. Continues to put body on the line and runs hard all day unlike many of his team mates.
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Had 11 tackles.
By comparison..
Newman, Lloyd & Martin had 1 each.
Chaplin & Grigg didn't get their hands on a Hawk opponent once.
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Also put his body on the line and was poleaxed by Gibson.
Not his best game but he was far from our worst.....
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99 problems but Reece ain't one
:clapping
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Had 11 tackles.
By comparison..
Newman, Lloyd & Martin had 1 each.
Chaplin & Grigg didn't get their hands on a Hawk opponent once.
Those five are a deadset disgrace, 3 tackles between the five of them.
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Gibson given a reprimand by the MRP for his late bump on Conca ...
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Josh Gibson, Hawthorn, has been charged with a Level One Striking Offence (125 demerit points, one-match sanction) for striking Reece Conca, Richmond, during the fourth quarter of the Round Six match between Hawthorn and Richmond, played at the MCG on Sunday April 27, 2014.
In summary, due to a six-year good record, he can accept a reprimand and 70.31 demerit points towards his future record with an early plea.
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Richmond Football Club, the incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One Offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has an existing six-year good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 70.31 demerit points towards his future record.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-28/mrp-full-statement-round-six
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What a joke. It was high impact. An elbow to the head going flat out when he knew he couldn't influence the contest. He deserved 3 weeks. Absolute joke.
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What a joke. It was high impact. An elbow to the head going flat out when he knew he couldn't influence the contest. He deserved 3 weeks. Absolute joke.
x 2
And he left the ground knowing he couldn't make the contest. But why am I not surprised. :banghead
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A clash of heads is 2 weeks but a charge with an elbow to the head is a reprimand lol. Circus
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What a joke. It was high impact. An elbow to the head going flat out when he knew he couldn't influence the contest. He deserved 3 weeks. Absolute joke.
Deserved 3. 2 with a good record.
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I watched Reece really closely on the weekend and he did what a lot on here says he does, and thats put his body in and tackle. He had 11 tackles. But the other thing he does is play behind his man at stoppages. IMO he waits for his opponent to get the footy. If that's what he is good at play him in defense, but if he is going to be played in the middle, he needs to get in front of his man and get the footy and then a clearance. He needs to get more quality ball if playing in the midfield.
If Cotch doesn't get the clearance we don't get it.
So that brings me to a better question than Conca or Heppell.
What is Reece's best position? IMO it isn't in the midfield yet.
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Reece today had 28 disposals, seven inside 50s, nine tackles, four clearances and two goal assists.
His best game for the Club?
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Reece today had 28 disposals, seven inside 50s, nine tackles, four clearances and two goal assists.
His best game for the Club?
Thought he tried hard and put his body on the line several times. Just has to clean up his disposal although conditions today made it tough.
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Id say it was, he was massive in the 3rd and got us going. Starting to get match fitness up and in the process starting to show hes got more than a bit game
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Reece today had 28 disposals, seven inside 50s, nine tackles, four clearances and two goal assists.
His best game for the Club?
great game today :clapping
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Was very very good today
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Staring to work his way back from injury . Really stepped it up today against one of the best midfields in the comp.
BOG IMO.
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yep played well but disposal still crap
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Was excellent. Hope he continues with it.
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Fantastic today BOG
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Was very encouraged by Reece today. :thumbsup
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Should never drop below that output.
Good.
Some poo kicks.
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People don't realise he barely had a pre season.
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he was terrific today and well done to him. :clapping
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Is a goer and will be for a long time
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Loved his game today. BOG for us. :thumbsup
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How was that one handed pickup?
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Best game yet. Good on him, hope he keeps it up.
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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Nothing up my sleeve.
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/851638352.gif)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
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Can't teach that.
Natural footballer.
With a full preseason this guy will catch up to Heppell pretty quickly all you doubters…...
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Is less feminine than dyson
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brilliant, if heppell did that McAveney and Darcy would still be cleaning up the studio after a dbl eruption and we'd still be seeing footage of it on the various afl sanctioned footy shows.
Just quietly Dusty should have shepherded varcoe and allowed Concs an out. Concs said stuff ya then ill do it on my own. Dusty needs to do those 1%ers more
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
That's pretty stuffn cool.
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
That's pretty stuffn cool.
Superwog :clapping
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/851638352.gif)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
Delicious.
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Can't teach that.
Natural footballer.
With a full preseason this guy will catch up to Heppell pretty quickly all you doubters…...
Agree with all of that
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Can't teach that.
Natural footballer.
With a full preseason this guy will catch up to Heppell pretty quickly all you doubters…...
We'll see
Not holding my breath. Credit where it's due he has had a descent past 2 weeks even though we lost
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
Nice!
Nevermind Martin, hows ol Vickery trying to look busy shuffling along :-\
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Courtesy of RFC twitter and BF:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
This kicks arse! I wonder what Martin was thinking when he pulled that off?
Nice!
Nevermind Martin, hows ol Vickery trying to look busy shuffling along :-\
I think its called "making position" ;)
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
I'm not saying he is Pendlebury. Just stating some factual stats. You are probably correct with your summary. However, it remains opinion until you can state factual statistics that support your statements. Things like metres gained coupled with disposal efficiency would help. So if you have information to back up your opinion please give it. If not, your opinion remains just that, nothing more, nothing less.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
I'm not saying he is Pendlebury. Just stating some factual stats. You are probably correct with your summary. However, it remains opinion until you can state factual statistics that support your statements. Things like metres gained coupled with disposal efficiency would help. So if you have information to back up your opinion please give it. If not, your opinion remains just that, nothing more, nothing less.
Happy with that, it is just my opinion.
But in your opinion, do you agree that the two are miles apart when it come to kicking efficiency? Even though the stats say otherwise. That's all was trying to say. :thumbsup
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
I'm not saying he is Pendlebury. Just stating some factual stats. You are probably correct with your summary. However, it remains opinion until you can state factual statistics that support your statements. Things like metres gained coupled with disposal efficiency would help. So if you have information to back up your opinion please give it. If not, your opinion remains just that, nothing more, nothing less.
Happy with that, it is just my opinion.
But in your opinion, do you agree that the two are miles apart when it come to kicking efficiency? Even though the stats say otherwise. That's all was trying to say. :thumbsup
I really don't know what the best measure is to compare the two. Pendlebury is a freak. One of the best in the league. His disposal is clean and to advantage in the most difficult of situations. And these happen at crunch times.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
I'm not saying he is Pendlebury. Just stating some factual stats. You are probably correct with your summary. However, it remains opinion until you can state factual statistics that support your statements. Things like metres gained coupled with disposal efficiency would help. So if you have information to back up your opinion please give it. If not, your opinion remains just that, nothing more, nothing less.
Happy with that, it is just my opinion.
But in your opinion, do you agree that the two are miles apart when it come to kicking efficiency? Even though the stats say otherwise. That's all was trying to say. :thumbsup
I really don't know what the best measure is to compare the two. Pendlebury is a freak. One of the best in the league. His disposal is clean and to advantage in the most difficult of situations. And these happen at crunch times.
On the other hand, Pendles has a lot more experience and pre-seasons under his belt, he should be better. As I have stated I don't dislike what Reece does, I just think that stats don't always tell the whole truth. I hoping he will become an A grader that can help take us all the way.
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Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Yes he is..
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Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Yes he is..
He hasn't stuffn done anything special ffs.
Misses goals and targets like the rest of his pathetic team.
Plays when he feels up to it.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
Champion data changed the way they rate disposal efficiency a while back to take into account the degree off difficulty when making a kick.( i had the link bookmarked but a hard drive crash put paid to that )
even allowing for that, i prefer to look a players disposal efficiency in conbination with their contested possessions. (other stats that would help create an accurate picture would be meters gained and scoring chain involvement. )
even then its not perfect. someone who is getting the hard ball at stoppages is going to have a lot of rushed kicks under pressure, while another player may win a number of one on one contests and burn of their opponent for an unpressured kick, yet I'm sure they are both regarded as contested possessions.
As for the sideways kick, even that is not so cut and dried. switching play across the ground is one way to open up the play, rather than just kick to congestion, but it relies heavily on your teamates to work harder harder than their opponents to get to that space, or you just end back at square one (which has exactly been one of our problems this year)
sometimes its easy to condemn the bloke with the ball, but unless he is ignoring good options created by hard working team mates, its probably really not his fault. The options have to be there in the first place.
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On BF someone compared him to Libba..
Average disposals: 22.9 (Libba) vs 22 (Conca).
DE%: 73.1% v 70.8% (Conca still better than other inside mids like Cunnington and Jones. Pendlebury has DE of 70.9%).
Average Marks: 3.6 v 4
Average Clearances: 5.7 v 4
Centre clearances: 1.7 v 1.6
Rebound 50s: 1.9 v 1.4
Tackles: 7.6 v 7.1
One percenters: 2.7 v 1.9
Inside 50s: 2.3 v 3.6
Now the commentators almost turn to jelly when talking about Libba. So I think he compares quite favourably. Very underestimated is our man Conca.
Are you trying to convince yourself or some of us?
The stat that is the most misleading IMO when it comes to players is disposal efficiency- perfect example is comparing Reece with Pendleburry.
Pendleburry's disposal makes Reece's look Little League like. Some players put their reps on the line when they get the footy by trying to hit up a target that will help their team go forward (Pendleburry) and other take the easy option and do dinky little kicks 15m sideways or backwards that don't benefit anyone BUT it does keep their efficiency quite high.
Reece is not the worst at it but don't kid yourself when comparing chalk and cheese.
This is where I get my great dislike of Ellis and go a lesser extent Astbury. They hurt the team as much as they help it. It's never been so true as this year with the way we have moved the ball.
Champion data changed the way they rate disposal efficiency a while back to take into account the degree off difficulty when making a kick.( i had the link bookmarked but a hard drive crash put paid to that )
even allowing for that, i prefer to look a players disposal efficiency in conbination with their contested possessions. (other stats that would help create an accurate picture would be meters gained and scoring chain involvement. )
even then its not perfect. someone who is getting the hard ball at stoppages is going to have a lot of rushed kicks under pressure, while another player may win a number of one on one contests and burn of their opponent for an unpressured kick, yet I'm sure they are both regarded as contested possessions.
As for the sideways kick, even that is not so cut and dried. switching play across the ground is one way to open up the play, rather than just kick to congestion, but it relies heavily on your teamates to work harder harder than their opponents to get to that space, or you just end back at square one (which has exactly been one of our problems this year)
sometimes its easy to condemn the bloke with the ball, but unless he is ignoring good options created by hard working team mates, its probably really not his fault. The options have to be there in the first place.
Yes I totally agree with that. But the thing that gets me wild is when guys automatically, on every occasion look backward or sideways before looking up field. Happy for guys to switch play but only after looking to advance the ball first. Ellis could put an opposition jumper on he kicks it their way so often. :lol
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Pressure kings: The players you don't want breathing down your neck
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 14, 2014
RICHMOND: Reece Conca
Reece Conca has spent the past two season developing his inside game and leads the Tigers for pressure acts from former Port Adelaide midfielder Matt Thomas. Conca has also stepped up in the absence of Jake King, who topped the Tigers for tackles inside-50 last year, and the young midfielder has delivered 11 to be second to just Shane Edwards. In total tackles, Conca has twice made double figures this year – in round three against the Western Bulldogs and round six against Hawthorn – which sees him easily lead the club with 50 after seven games. It's been a slow build this year for Conca after hamstring tendon surgery at the end of last season, but his contested game and ability to exert pressure has been impressive.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-14/kings-of-pressure
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7th most tackles in league is
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Reckon he looked quick on the weekend. In the past have agreed with the idea he looks slow but not so sure anymore...
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Reckon he looked quick on the weekend. In the past have agreed with the idea he looks slow but not so sure anymore...
Part time player
Full time dud
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what Reece needs to do to take the next step is to get his brain in sync with his body,because there seems to be a serious communication breakdown happening there
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Thought it was harsh hearing commentators say things like picks when to go or not to go.
Ridiculous calls and really fired me up. Obviously injured, this bloke never ever doesn't give his all.
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Doesn't do enough. Just once I'd love to see us draft a player who comes in and is a great contributor from day one.
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Greatest pick 6 since the heady days of Salopek, Cupido & Rombotis.
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hmm vanilla is a good word for conca.
hes played two or three real good games this yr collingwood game springs to mind. hes had two or three solid games and hes had two or three howlers.
doesnt have one out standing attribute. hes not performing one thing consistently well at high quality. well maybe hes laying more tackles.
imean to say he doesnt find a lot of ball for a mid. hes not a huge clearance player and hes barely ave as far as contested ball goes. he doesnt hurt with ball in hand and imo lacks awareness.
hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
Eh not that high. Let's just split the difference and say pick 30.
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How about 18?
Take the compromised draft out and that's about where he would have been.
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Red wog wasn't pick 6
Afl rape ze draft pool
Lest we forget
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Too much time spent at the Vaucluse punting.
In saying that, reckon we have plenty worse running around than him.
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Doesn't do enough. Just once I'd love to see us draft a player who comes in and is a great contributor from day one.
Because Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Vlastuin didn't deliver in their first year?
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hmm vanilla is a good word for conca.
hes played two or three real good games this yr collingwood game springs to mind. hes had two or three solid games and hes had two or three howlers.
doesnt have one out standing attribute. hes not performing one thing consistently well at high quality. well maybe hes laying more tackles.
imean to say he doesnt find a lot of ball for a mid. hes not a huge clearance player and hes barely ave as far as contested ball goes. he doesnt hurt with ball in hand and imo lacks awareness.
hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
I don't see him as Vanilla, vanilla players for mine are the ones that go about their business without being line breakers or taking the game on, ie Ellis and Heppell. Conca has his flaws but I see him trying to make things happen
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Doesn't do enough. Just once I'd love to see us draft a player who comes in and is a great contributor from day one.
Because Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Vlastuin didn't deliver in their first year?
agree, coach is usually bang on the mark but martin, Lids Vlas all went bang early, cotch prob didn't bc he was virtually injured the whole time in his first season or 2
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hmm vanilla is a good word for conca.
hes played two or three real good games this yr collingwood game springs to mind. hes had two or three solid games and hes had two or three howlers.
doesnt have one out standing attribute. hes not performing one thing consistently well at high quality. well maybe hes laying more tackles.
imean to say he doesnt find a lot of ball for a mid. hes not a huge clearance player and hes barely ave as far as contested ball goes. he doesnt hurt with ball in hand and imo lacks awareness.
hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
I don't see him as Vanilla, vanilla players for mine are the ones that go about their business without being line breakers or taking the game on, ie Ellis and Heppell. Conca has his flaws but I see him trying to make things happen
Skills can let him down but I have seen enough upside.
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Doesn't do enough. Just once I'd love to see us draft a player who comes in and is a great contributor from day one.
Because Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Vlastuin didn't deliver in their first year?
agree, coach is usually bang on the mark but martin, Lids Vlas all went bang early, cotch prob didn't bc he was virtually injured the whole time in his first season or 2
Who's coach and what are you talking about
Perhaps I should have worded it differently for you lamington. I'm not talking about pick 1, pick 2 or pick 3. I'm talking about players drafted later in the first round or in later rounds. Sorry, should have said so. I want a player to come in (who isn't a top 5 pick) and play 22 games. Other clubs always seem to be able to get their hands on a kid who comes in and performs really well from day dot. If your #1 pick isn't contributing then you've got a problem. At Richmond 1st rounders is all they seem to get right and even then they don't always get it right. Conca doesn't play like a #6 should.
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Doesn't do enough. Just once I'd love to see us draft a player who comes in and is a great contributor from day one.
Because Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Vlastuin didn't deliver in their first year?
agree, you are usually bang on the mark but martin, Lids Vlas all went bang early, cotch prob didn't bc he was virtually injured the whole time in his first season or 2
Who's coach and what are you talking about
Perhaps I should have worded it differently for you lamington. I'm not talking about pick 1, pick 2 or pick 3. I'm talking about players drafted later in the first round or in later rounds. Sorry, should have said so. I want a player to come in (who isn't a top 5 pick) and play 22 games. Other clubs always seem to be able to get their hands on a kid who comes in and performs really well from day dot. If your #1 pick isn't contributing then you've got a problem. At Richmond 1st rounders is all they seem to get right and even then they don't always get it right. Conca doesn't play like a #6 should.
As we have said, Conca is not a true number 6 draft choice. He is more like 18 as GC had already picked the best 17 year olds the year before. As such he shouldn't be judged as one. And yes a Boss is a leader of men! Well done!
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Guthrie he aint
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Will play 200 games.
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
wasnt talking about just that draft. and pick 40 was a generalisation if i had said
in any yr if we had picked him up with a 2nd rounder or early 3 rnd pick most people would say yep decent pick we have hopefully found a solid player. ths is where we should be finding players with concas attributes so many similar type mids are taken by other clubs here but top 10 ffs.
the trouble is i dont see one outstanding attribute that will enable him to become a worthy top 10 pick. hes okay in a lot of things and poor in a few others. this is what i meant by vanilla.
a lot of people were saying similar things at the time of the draft. that is why he was was rated late first rounder at best by most. it really has panned out that way as well.
but hey francis had watched him and really liked his attitude such a nice young bloke. ppppffffttt.
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If I remember correctly most pundits had him going at about pick 15 but we obviously saw it differently.
I guess there was a reason most had him at about pick 15 and not top 10
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
wasnt talking about just that draft. and pick 40 was a generalisation if i had said
in any yr if we had picked him up with a 2nd rounder or early 3 rnd pick most people would say yep decent pick we have hopefully found a solid player. ths is where we should be finding players with concas attributes so many similar type mids are taken by other clubs here but top 10 ffs.
the trouble is i dont see one outstanding attribute that will enable him to become a worthy top 10 pick. hes okay in a lot of things and poor in a few others. this is what i meant by vanilla.
a lot of people were saying similar things at the time of the draft. that is why he was was rated late first rounder at best by most. it really has panned out that way as well.
but hey francis had watched him and really liked his attitude such a nice young bloke. ppppffffttt.
The one thing that concerned me at the time was after the draft when FJ said we had seen him play 'live' every game. FJ likes to keep his team small. (3 recruiters at the time, not sure how many scouts) How can a small team focus so hard on one player? No wonder we ended up with complete spuds in the other rounds. They were just stabs in the dark. It really makes sense now how someone can take Batch over Parker when they played for the same team. Didn't go to the games obviously.
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
wasnt talking about just that draft. and pick 40 was a generalisation if i had said
in any yr if we had picked him up with a 2nd rounder or early 3 rnd pick most people would say yep decent pick we have hopefully found a solid player. ths is where we should be finding players with concas attributes so many similar type mids are taken by other clubs here but top 10 ffs.
the trouble is i dont see one outstanding attribute that will enable him to become a worthy top 10 pick. hes okay in a lot of things and poor in a few others. this is what i meant by vanilla.
a lot of people were saying similar things at the time of the draft. that is why he was was rated late first rounder at best by most. it really has panned out that way as well.
but hey francis had watched him and really liked his attitude such a nice young bloke. ppppffffttt.
The one thing that concerned me at the time was after the draft when FJ said we had seen him play 'live' every game. FJ likes to keep his team small. (3 recruiters at the time, not sure how many scouts) How can a small team focus so hard on one player? No wonder we ended up with complete spuds in the other rounds. They were just stabs in the dark. It really makes sense now how someone can take Batch over Parker when they played for the same team. Didn't go to the games obviously.
Too be fair, Batchelor did look an astute pick up at first, but I said at the time they were trying to be too clever and ended up being too clever by half. Remember their smugness after it , carrying on like they'd outsmarted everyone and scooped the pool. Remember people laughing at Essendon because we took Helbig from under their noses. Hilarious.
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
wasnt talking about just that draft. and pick 40 was a generalisation if i had said
in any yr if we had picked him up with a 2nd rounder or early 3 rnd pick most people would say yep decent pick we have hopefully found a solid player. ths is where we should be finding players with concas attributes so many similar type mids are taken by other clubs here but top 10 ffs.
the trouble is i dont see one outstanding attribute that will enable him to become a worthy top 10 pick. hes okay in a lot of things and poor in a few others. this is what i meant by vanilla.
a lot of people were saying similar things at the time of the draft. that is why he was was rated late first rounder at best by most. it really has panned out that way as well.
but hey francis had watched him and really liked his attitude such a nice young bloke. ppppffffttt.
The one thing that concerned me at the time was after the draft when FJ said we had seen him play 'live' every game. FJ likes to keep his team small. (3 recruiters at the time, not sure how many scouts) How can a small team focus so hard on one player? No wonder we ended up with complete spuds in the other rounds. They were just stabs in the dark. It really makes sense now how someone can take Batch over Parker when they played for the same team. Didn't go to the games obviously.
Too be fair, Batchelor did look an astute pick up at first, but I said at the time they were trying to be too clever and ended up being too clever by half. Remember their smugness after it , carrying on like they'd outsmarted everyone and scooped the pool. Remember people laughing at Essendon because we took Helbig from under their noses. Hilarious.
Batchelor looked good early. So do a lot of our kids until they realise being an RFC player means you can bludge and get paid and no one really gives a stuff. How many of our players look best in their first couple of games.
Parker had top 10 pick written all over him. Won a B&F as a 17yo over the previous years no.1 pick in Scully. The only problem with doing that was everyone over-analyses every time you fart. Missed a huge opportunity.
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hes not a poor player but hes nothing special either. if we took him at pick 40 i reckon most people would be happy.
While I get the sentiment, you really over estimate the draft. Conca would be a decent pick at 20 let alone 40
wasnt talking about just that draft. and pick 40 was a generalisation if i had said
in any yr if we had picked him up with a 2nd rounder or early 3 rnd pick most people would say yep decent pick we have hopefully found a solid player. ths is where we should be finding players with concas attributes so many similar type mids are taken by other clubs here but top 10 ffs.
the trouble is i dont see one outstanding attribute that will enable him to become a worthy top 10 pick. hes okay in a lot of things and poor in a few others. this is what i meant by vanilla.
a lot of people were saying similar things at the time of the draft. that is why he was was rated late first rounder at best by most. it really has panned out that way as well.
but hey francis had watched him and really liked his attitude such a nice young bloke. ppppffffttt.
The one thing that concerned me at the time was after the draft when FJ said we had seen him play 'live' every game. FJ likes to keep his team small. (3 recruiters at the time, not sure how many scouts) How can a small team focus so hard on one player? No wonder we ended up with complete spuds in the other rounds. They were just stabs in the dark. It really makes sense now how someone can take Batch over Parker when they played for the same team. Didn't go to the games obviously.
oh wow
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Ouch
Parker hurts
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http://t.co/SOtes5FE0d
This is probably my favorite Conca cuddle
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First game back for injury and will be better for the run
Should be right for 2018 season
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Played a great game today :clapping
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Played a great game today :clapping
Yep :clapping
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Meh.
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One of those days when stats don't tell the true story - thought he was a very good contributor today.
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Midfielder Reece Conca was stretchered off with concussion in the third term after a head collision with Power ruckman Matthew Lobbe.
Hardwick said the 21-year-old was "up and about" but would have scans this week as a precaution.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-13/hardwick-postmatch
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Keeps putting his head over ball
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Didn't get much of the pill but you can't question his toughness. I was glad to see him being physical with a few blokes.
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VIDEO: Conca's collision ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-13/round-17-collision-for-conca
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Never question Reece's attack on the contest or his toughness :clapping
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Lids on the RFC website said Conca did a PB in his 3km time trial. Hopefully, touchwood, Reece is finally able to get a full injury-free preseason under his belt.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-26/talking-tigers-recruitment-zone-ep-3
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Training the house down.
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lmao
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Hope he actually gets into shape. Always looks draped in puppy fat to me.
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Hahahahahahaha there it is
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Hope he actually gets into shape. Always looks draped in puppy fat to me.
Polite way of saying effing fat for an AFL footballer
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Conca isn't fat at all. Some of the crap I read on the internet makes my head spin!
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Reece manboobs
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Get him on the paleo diet ffs
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Conca isn't fat at all. Some of the crap I read on the internet makes my head spin!
Not compared to the average human, no. But compared to other AFL level footballers he does look a little flabby. I dont think it's necessarily his fault though, he just has that kind of build.
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He's got a wonderful personality but :shh
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People think Dane Swan is fat, but he can run all day :shh
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Conca isn't fat at all. Some of the crap I read on the internet makes my head spin!
Didn't say he's fat. Said he looks like he has puppy fat on him - there's a difference. Just another way of saying that he doesn't look lean and ripped.
People think Dane Swan is fat, but he can run all day :shh
Well, when the day comes that Conca lives up to the Dane Swan standard of play, I'll come back to this post and salute you. Until then that's just a silly comparison. Conca doesn't run anywhere near as hard, find anywhere near as much ball, or influence games at all by comparison.
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People think Dane Swan is fat, but he can run all day :shh
Well, when the day comes that Conca lives up to the Dane Swan standard of play, I'll come back to this post and salute you. Until then that's just a silly comparison. Conca doesn't run anywhere near as hard, find anywhere near as much ball, or influence games at all by comparison.
I was not comparing the players I was just simply comparing body shape and giving an example of how some players just have more fat on their bodies.
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Good old fat guts
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He's not fat, he's just too short for his BMI.
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He's not fat, he's just too short for his BMI.
LOL that's a relief
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Conca isn't fat at all. Some of the crap I read on the internet makes my head spin!
Not compared to the average human, no. But compared to other AFL level footballers he does look a little flabby. I dont think it's necessarily his fault though, he just has that kind of build.
No.
It's defs his fault.
Clubs too.
If he's not disciplined enough to diet up and achieve minimum body fat
then he's a Shitman.
@that level, that many years at the club and pay cheque wise, to be anything less than maximum physical capacity is proof he's a stuffwit.
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Great video of conca at training. I for one believe he can become a first class player running through the minfield. Fingers crossed he has an injury free pre season and shows the footy world he can play at a high level. Great young leades we have at tigerland :clapping
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Great video of conca at training. I for one believe he can become a first class player running through the minfield. Fingers crossed he has an injury free pre season and shows the footy world he can play at a high level. Great young leades we have at tigerland :clapping
training the house down?
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No but looks to be going along nice and solid. Training the house down comments might come out February next year :shh
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Can we throw a PB in too?
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Can we throw a PB in too?
Pelvic Bone? Uh oh, not another hip injury. :-[
What's your source Wat?
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Lids on the RFC website said Conca did a PB in his 3km time trial. Hopefully, touchwood, Reece is finally able to get a full injury-free preseason under his belt.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-26/talking-tigers-recruitment-zone-ep-3
Ah Dooks.... :lol :rollin
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Conca isn't fat at all. Some of the crap I read on the internet makes my head spin!
Not compared to the average human, no. But compared to other AFL level footballers he does look a little flabby. I dont think it's necessarily his fault though, he just has that kind of build.
No.
It's defs his fault.
Clubs too.
If he's not disciplined enough to diet up and achieve minimum body fat
then he's a pooman.
@that level, that many years at the club and pay cheque wise, to be anything less than maximum physical capacity is proof he's a stuffwit.
He sounds fat. Reece Conca is s fat mans name. It's not his fault.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dyson-heppell-inks-new-deal-with-essendon-bombers-locked-up-until-end-of-2020-season/story-fni5f6kv-1227178699534
ESSENDON star Dyson Heppell wants to captain the club after signing a landmark contract for another five seasons.
Why doesn't Conca want to captain the club?
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Will his contract be until 2021 if they get banned for a year?
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Never question Reece's attack on the contest or his toughness :clapping
quite right, hes typical of many players we have had over the yrs. its such a shame hes proficient in so few areas. but hey we can ignore those things he has a crack.
in many ways he reminds of andrew raines.no awareness runs into trouble and panics with ball in hand. people keep saying hes going to be a very good player just needs a full pre season. but fitness has nothing to do with the flaws in his game. ffs we used pick 6 on this bloke i could live with pick 40.
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
(http://s18.postimg.org/5s9gljuuf/conca.gif)
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Hopes a good thing to have
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Hopes a good thing to have
Obviously Chucky! None of us would still be barracking for the Tiges if it didn't exist!
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
Sounds like he is tearing up the track :shh
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Instead of the physical aspect Reece maybe should enrol into one of those Lumosity courses they advertise on the box
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Look out for this kid in 2015!
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
How is that even possible? From memory he is one of the slowest at the club
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
How is that even possible? From memory he is one of the slowest at the club
Is he the slowest or fattest?
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
Always thought his speed was underrated but I'd be surprised if he truly was the quickest over 20m.
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Probably his personal quickest
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
Always thought his speed was underrated but I'd be surprised if he truly was the quickest over 20m.
Fattest.
There was a bowl of lard at the finish line
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
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If Reese is fastest at the club over 20m the other guys need to pull their fingers out
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If he gets a full pre season and games under his belt in 2015 then look out.
(Look out because he will be having that break out season we've been waiting for or look out Reese because the natives will come after you ;D)
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He was real good in 2013
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Hoping with finally a full preseason behind him (touchwood), we'll see more speed and burst like this from Reece this year.
Quickest 20m sprint in pre-season training so far :shh
Great news. Amazing what one can do with peak fitness. Hope it transitions into the season proper..
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He was real good in 2013
who conca. hes never been real good apart from the odd game once or twice a yr. hes been very average at best and he would want to have a real good yr this yr.
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
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At this stage my main hope for Conca is that Fremantle or West Coast will still think he's worth something come next trade period.
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
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I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO.
With respect this is one of the more overstated posts I've read in some time.
Conca isn't Heppell but he's not been 's***house'.
That's pure trolling.
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I'd like to see a fit Reece Conca starting against Carlton in a few months time. He's had detractors but he has never been fit.
Whether that's due to s lack of disciple or poor luck with injuries - 2015 should be a more definitive test of his talent.
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
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I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO.
With respect this is one of the more overstated posts I've read in some time.
Conca isn't Heppell but he's not been 's***house'.
That's pure trolling.
I'm not trolling, I just don't rate Reece.
He fumbles, cannot kick and doesn't really contribute much. So IMO he is s***house.
Can you tell me anything he does that is better than average?
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
and yet you support that squib vickery. go figure. and im not having a shot at you either. you can see the obvious weaknesses in some or most but put blinkers on with others, i do ithe same also but i wont give em as long as you have given vickery.
your right about reece as you are with most of our players, hes is a wasted top 10 pick the lack of awareness and the panic attacks means at best we have an average player. this is not bagging or bitching as some will try to paint it. its calling it as one sees it.
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Some guys train their ass off but as a resukt can only turn in a hamdful of good games a tear.
He is one of them.
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
and yet you support that squib vickery. go figure. and im not having a shot at you either. you can see the obvious weaknesses in some or most but put blinkers on with others, i do ithe same also but i wont give em as long as you have given vickery.
your right about reece as you are with most of our players, hes is a wasted top 10 pick the lack of awareness and the panic attacks means at best we have an average player. this is not bagging or bitching as some will try to paint it. its calling it as one sees it.
Squib is he ?, you gutless sniping keyboard warrior, you make me sick
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
and yet you support that squib vickery. go figure. and im not having a shot at you either. you can see the obvious weaknesses in some or most but put blinkers on with others, i do ithe same also but i wont give em as long as you have given vickery.
your right about reece as you are with most of our players, hes is a wasted top 10 pick the lack of awareness and the panic attacks means at best we have an average player. this is not bagging or bitching as some will try to paint it. its calling it as one sees it.
Claw I get you don't rate Vickery but he has done more than those two I mentioned. Tyrone is not my favorite either but he is better than you give him credit for. IMO he is still young for his type of player and has a fairly decent return to this time for a young ruckman/forward. His is not elite by any stretch but deserves his place on our list. To be honest I think I'm pretty harsh/ but fair on most of my appraisals of our players.
Anyway I hope they prove all us armchair warriors wrong and become very good players for our beloved Tigers. We need a couple like Reece and Tyrone to stand up and become players otherwise we are going nowhere.
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FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
and yet you support that squib vickery. go figure. and im not having a shot at you either. you can see the obvious weaknesses in some or most but put blinkers on with others, i do ithe same also but i wont give em as long as you have given vickery.
your right about reece as you are with most of our players, hes is a wasted top 10 pick the lack of awareness and the panic attacks means at best we have an average player. this is not bagging or bitching as some will try to paint it. its calling it as one sees it.
Claw I get you don't rate Vickery but he has done more than those two I mentioned. Tyrone is not my favorite either but he is better than you give him credit for. IMO he is still young for his type of player and has a fairly decent return to this time for a young ruckman/forward. His is not elite by any stretch but deserves his place on our list. To be honest I think I'm pretty harsh/ but fair on most of my appraisals of our players.
Anyway I hope they prove all us armchair warriors wrong and become very good players for our beloved Tigers. We need a couple like Reece and Tyrone to stand up and become players otherwise we are going nowhere.
yeah your probably right hes done more than astbury and griffiths. im highly critical of griffiths like yourself , have issues with astbury but am prepared to wait and see at least one more yr.
without a doubt ordinary sums up all three to date. and there can be no sugar coating it thats what they have been.
i may sit here in 2yrs time with egg all over my face as i cant see vickery improving. yet all have done basically is comment on his performances to date and they have in the main been ordinary. i can undestand why you would give a 200cm player like him one more yr. we really need him to become a very good player there is noone else in the wings.
i think my biggest gripe in all this is the lack of other options in our system and ffs ive complained for yrs now about those options or lack there of or simoilar type of option.
just to finish i think my biggest gripe with vickery is he only plays the game on his terms.
put it this way you me a lot of people including blokes like breereton are highly critical of vickery and griffiths yet the only real other option is mckenzie a 18yo taken at pick 10000. or another ruck/fwd option in matchstick mcbean.
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LOL you used finipoohink again
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Wash your mouth out with soap, chuck. >:(
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-01-14/minor-setback-for-conca
This guy is just plain unlucky. Hope he is back to full running drills soon! :pray
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-01-14/minor-setback-for-conca
This guy is just plain unlucky. Hope he is back to full running drills soon! :pray
Nah, he mostly just has a poo body
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Knee surgery sidelines Tiger Conca
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
January 14, 2015
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca has undergone minor knee surgery, interrupting what has been a strong pre-season for the young Tiger.
Conca, who had the surgery earlier this week, is expected to resume running next week and join the Tigers' main group shortly thereafter.
The 22-year-old had been one of the club's standout performers so far this summer.
"The surgery was very minor, and we’re expecting he’ll be back in the main group shortly, and take part in the pre-season matches," football manager Dan Richardson said.
"Reece didn’t miss a session prior to Christmas, so he has a solid fitness base behind him."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-14/surgery-sidelines-tiger
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Guess we can now look forward to yet another year of "just wait until he's had a full pre-season" comments.
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Running next week? Sounds like a regulation keyhole cleanup. Likely had some floating cartilage or something bothering him.
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Don't think two weeks off can be much of an excuse for Conca so he'd hope to do something this year.
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Pudgy Dud.
FHO.
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Pudgy Dud.
FHO.
Agree - Fremantle Have Our pudgy dud next year.
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i guess its not that bad a deal it means we wont have to hear his excuses all year when he has another average year.
bloody dud
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Don't think two weeks off can be much of an excuse for Conca so he'd hope to do something this year.
Yep.
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Astbury or Griffiths will be next. :lol
Nar, good luck to him. Hope we gets back on the track ASAP.
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Astbury or Griffiths will be next. :lol
Nar, good luck to him. Hope we gets back on the track ASAP.
Griff did pretty well this year to keep himself away from injury so let's hope at least he's past his injury concerns :pray
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just watched the replay.
how many more years have we got him for? Think grigg is a far worse footballer for what we paid but another few years and conca will be just as bad.
So slow
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solid as the rock of Gibraltar in the sec half, just returning back from knee surgery, coming along nicely :clapping
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Conked out
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just watched the replay.
how many more years have we got him for? Think grigg is a far worse footballer for what we paid but another few years and conca will be just as bad.
So slow
Two years left on his contract 2015 & 2016
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just watched the replay.
how many more years have we got him for? Think grigg is a far worse footballer for what we paid but another few years and conca will be just as bad.
So slow
Two years left on his contract 2015 & 2016
I hope this is wrong WP. Been giving him the BOTD til recent times, but gee whiz.
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Some short memories here, two years ago Conca was in very good nick and a strong contributor to the side.
Ripping his hammy against Carlton probably cost us the final.
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Some short memories here, two years ago Conca was in very good nick and a strong contributor to the side.
Ripping his hammy against Carlton probably cost us the final.
A strong call but probably a fair one
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For a fella that has apparently had his first full pre-season and has been burning it up at training I see nothing to get excited about.
Hes not living up to his pick 6 status bring overtaken by nearly every player picked in the top 20 that year.
is it his fault or has...
Oops! FJ done it again?
I'm expecting more and demand more from any first rounder.
He has a long way to go & I'm not holding my breath.
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Looking like another wasted first round pick
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he and vickery are the 2 worst decision makers in the team...absolute shockers
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he and vickery are the 2 worst decision makers in the team...absolute shockers
You get a chain of possessions which look like they are of an afl standard, and then Conca has his hand in the play and just completely muffs the hell out of it.
It's almost like they are overthinking it and the disposal comes out completely fooled.
Doesn't make any sense
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I wish we choosed Heppel
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We tried to pick smart and cute and to date it's totally backfired.
Pick 6 is not one you want to muff up.
Geez Geez :facepalm
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I wish we choosed Heppell
"choosed" FFS not even close to being a word
and Heppell FFS, have you seen the haircut
:lol
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Please...he was the only player that looked like getting a clearance when given the opportunity in the middle. Play him down back is a waste just like Vlastuin is a waste down back. Makes things happen when on the ball and played a fine game given the role he had today. Coach :banghead
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Please...he was the only player that looked like getting a clearance when given the opportunity in the middle. Play him down back is a waste just like Vlastuin is a waste down back. Makes things happen when on the ball and played a fine game given the role he had today. Coach :banghead
x 2
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I wish we choosed Heppell
"choosed" FFS not even close to being a word
and Heppell FFS, have you seen the haircut
:lol
I'd take his haircut with his performances over Conca any day of the week. Even if I had to tell people I choosed him
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Actually gone backwards every year, and at the end of the day, rather than drafting the young gun who trained with us and was highly rated by entire football world, we effectively decided to use pick 6 on a shorter, fatter replacement for Shane Tuck instead. Contracted to the end of 2016 so just make the best of it and stick him the guts and stop overcoaching him. (Something Hardwick needs to do in general IMO, I'm all for "versaltilty" and "structures" but it just looks to me like too many blokes are being coached too much against their strengths and natural instincts.)
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No doubt has been disappointing for an early pick, has had his share of injuries but needs to start returning on the investment or we should ship him out with our first pick for one of the GWS boys at end of season.
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He's crap and a idiot
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He's a fat little Tuck....
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I stuck up for him till the end of the last season. Thought id give him the benefit of the doubt - not doing any preseasons etc, but watching him in the practice matches this year on the back of a full preseason... he just looks like a battler unfortunately.
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He's a fat little Tuck....
TubbyTuck?
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He's a fat little Tuck....
TubbyTuck?
Teapot Tuck - short & stout....can tend to boil over, though is usually off the boil....
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I stuck up for him till the end of the last season. Thought id give him the benefit of the doubt - not doing any preseasons etc, but watching him in the practice matches this year on the back of a full preseason... he just looks like a battler unfortunately.
Yeah I thought he might show people something but he hasn't. Did end up having knee surgery but even with his 'best pre season ever' he manages to show basically nothing. At this stage all I want from him is to play an okay season because even that will boost his value and then it's time to shove him off
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Another player that's a mile away, him along with Morris and Batch could be costly in this team and certainly against the Blues.
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Another player played out of position. Not a half back flanker.
I think he might surprise many this year.
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He's a fat little Tuck....
TubbyTuck?
Teapot Tuck - short & stout....can tend to boil over, though is usually off the boil....
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His arm is his handle,
His head is his spout.
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
Same as our pick 8 Vickery.
It's a sad story.
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
Out because of hamstring soreness.
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ah even fjs much lauded first round picks are coming under justified scrutiny. we have had far too many misses with far too many picks yet the club talks fj up as doing a fine job.
makes me wonder who does the reviews of those in charge, because whoever it is, is doing a lousy job or is one of the boys.
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Cover backs, extend contracts. Life is peachy.
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We missed him last night around the packs. A great clearance player an area we got well beaten in last night. Hope he is fit for round 2.
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
Out because of hamstring soreness.
or was it lousy preseason. no way you could pick him in front of lambert.
we have to stop playing ordinary blokes on name or where they were drafted.
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I think Reece offers a lot to the team,namely hardness and aggression,also an ability to win his own ball.However what lets him down badly are his kicking skills and more importantly his decision making.Not sure how you go about fixing his decision making.
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
Out because of hamstring soreness.
or was it lousy preseason. no way you could pick him in front of lambert.
we have to stop playing ordinary blokes on name or where they were drafted.
I like Lambert and have for a few years but come on claw, Conca every day of the week in all areas of the game.
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We missed him last night around the packs. A great clearance player an area we got well beaten in last night. Hope he is fit for round 2.
too much grigg
not enough conca-hugs
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Whatever he does offer- it's not enough for him to be offered another contract.
Zero X factor.
Less than outstanding skills.
His workmanlike output would only be beneficial to the club if he
had year long consistency, otherwise it's more a stagnant dynamic he's bringing
on Match day.
Physical conditioning appears to show evidence of a lack of basic dietary discipline.
Arse is fat and he's a spoilt sook.
Never looked the goods, ever!
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We missed him last night around the packs. A great clearance player an area we got well beaten in last night. Hope he is fit for round 2.
too much grigg
not enough conca-hugs
You mean Conca-cuddles :lol
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Whatever he does offer- it's not enough for him to be offered another contract.
Zero X factor.
Less than outstanding skills.
His workmanlike output would only be beneficial to the club if he
had year long consistency, otherwise it's more a stagnant dynamic he's bringing
on Match day.
Physical conditioning appears to show evidence of a lack of basic dietary discipline.
Arse is fat and he's a spoilt sook.
Never looked the goods, ever!
Conca is a handy player
huge improvement over the like of newman
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How is he handy?
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How is he handy?
wins a bit of inside ball
is ok on the outside with run and kicking
kicks the odd goal
etc.
conca isnt ablett but he goes alright
in our best 22 imo
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It's better for the development of the list that he be made to earn his spot.
His halcyon days of glowing expectations have passed.
I'd want the same team as last night to go into the next game but if lids the 'tard
Gets suspended then your mate,wil get a call up.
Again, not through form but rather misfortune.
FMD.
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Conca and Vickery should be traded out at the end of the year IMHO.
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It's better for the development of the list that he be made to earn his spot.
I have little doubt that if every player was made to legitimately earn their spot there would also be a lot less vitriol from the fans towards certain players too.
If Vickery went back to the reserves and kicked multiple bags each week, dominated no-one would begrudge him another chance bc he's worked for it.
It's this rubbish walk right back into the team mantra ala Newman that peees off the average punter.
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Tony if rance or cotchin were out injured for say 3 weeks,do you think they should come back through the ressies too?
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Tony if rance or cotchin were out injured for say 3 weeks,do you think they should come back through the ressies too?
3 weeks no, but there is a trigger point. What that is I don't know but you'd think with 14+ weeks out a player, any player would need a run in the two's
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I think anything more than 6 weeks probably warrants a run in the twos unless you're Royce hart
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We're is this guy at a pick 6 still struggling to make the team and showing bugger all.
Out because of hamstring soreness.
or was it lousy preseason. no way you could pick him in front of lambert.
we have to stop playing ordinary blokes on name or where they were drafted.
I like Lambert and have for a few years but come on claw, Conca every day of the week in all areas of the game.
i disagree. conca has at no stage ever done enough to say hay im an automatic selection, based on preseason lambert should easily have got a game in front of him and others.
imo it would not be hard for a player like lambert to give at the least what conca has given us. one thing i know for sure lambert has awareness and makes good footy decisions and uses the ball well.
while im critical of conca im not as harsh on him as ox and a few others. im happy to see him in the team but only when he earns it. i think hes a foot soldier nothing special and a wasted top 10 pick.but as people tell me we need foot soldiers they cant all be super stars.
It's better for the development of the list that he be made to earn his spot.
His halcyon days of glowing expectations have passed.
I'd want the same team as last night to go into the next game but if lids the 'tard
Gets suspended then your mate,wil get a call up.
Again, not through form but rather misfortune.
FMD.
here here ox.
disagree about the same team though. gordon, morris, newman grigg all in the gun for me. surely if we have real aspirations on top 4 we are at a stage where we say poor performances have repurcussions and wont be tolerated.
deledio will be suspended good record likely 1 week. drop newman and gordon. bring in lambert , c ellis, and conca/knights.
the one im all for gifting some games too is mckenzie. two reasons why. if something happens to riewoldt or griffiths we need to play a tall fwd in their place, atm mckenzie looks the most likely of him and mcbean of physically handling afl. 2nd reason is im over vickery we need to look elsewhere imo. another reason is im one who thinks 3 tall fwds is the way to go. bit easier on a kid like mckenzie to have riewoldt and griffiths around him to take pressure off.
It's better for the development of the list that he be made to earn his spot.
I have little doubt that if every player was made to legitimately earn their spot there would also be a lot less vitriol from the fans towards certain players too.
If Vickery went back to the reserves and kicked multiple bags each week, dominated no-one would begrudge him another chance bc he's worked for it.
It's this rubbish walk right back into the team mantra ala Newman that peees off the average punter.
yep totally agree, if vickery had played enough good footy while playing seniors you could make a case for him walking straight back in as well. thing is he hasnt.
imo the reason he did get a lot of games was because of the lack of other viable options. this remains a big problem for us.
Tony if rance or cotchin were out injured for say 3 weeks,do you think they should come back through the ressies too?
trouble is there isnt enough quality in these positions and we just cant win without these blokes in the team. not against teams above and around us anyway.you only need look at what happened last yr when rance maric and deledio missed.they dont have much option but to rush em back from injury.
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Need him back ASAP. He provides what we are missing, contested ball around the stoppages, tackles and run.
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Reece provides that machine?
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That's what I see....beer goggles?
Seriously, I do think we miss him around the ball.
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TO be honest machine he certainly wouldn't have done any worse than the pea brains running around there today..
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One of the advantages the RFC has is, when it needs to replace a turd with a turd -They can!
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Agreed.
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TO be honest machine he certainly wouldn't have done any worse than the pea brains running around there today..
U kidding right?
He'd have been the same as them.
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LOL turd fo ra turd is a magnificent comment..kudos
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Does work hard in defense IMO but his work with the ball leaves a lot to be desired
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Reece provides that machine?
yeah, he does.
no conca, no edwards, no deledio. smashed in clearances all day
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Reece provides that machine?
yeah, he does.
no conca, no edwards, no deledio. smashed in clearances all day
Yep...Perfect day to play a big body Vlastuin in the guts against some of their big mids. Wasted on the HBF
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Missed twitch and lids. That's it.
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Honestly the way we played today you could have had Geez,allah,and Buddha across half forward and it would have made no difference
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yeah, well Geez is a full back for a start......
Reece provides that machine?
yeah, he does.
no conca, no edwards, no deledio. smashed in clearances all day
Yep...Perfect day to play a big body Vlastuin in the guts against some of their big mids. Wasted on the HBF
i was calling for that, but not because i feel anyone is wasted across half back, but because he not getting enough of the footy, which is a concern
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Think he's suffering from the ankle more than what's been let on. Pushed forward purely because he couldn't go with anyone anymore. Reckon he should of been subbed off not Lambert who was also injured but was still able to go around the ground
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Think he's suffering from the ankle more than what's been let on. Pushed forward purely because he couldn't go with anyone anymore. Reckon he should of been subbed off not Lambert who was also injured but was still able to go around the ground
Further to that, petterd also rolled his ankle in the second. Bad day all round.
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The Club is expecting Conca to miss at least the next fortnight on the sidelines, before he is expected to work his way back through the VFL.
“I’ll obviously deliberate with the physios and just make sure I’m right first,” Conca said.
“It’s a long year. I’ll just get the body right, maybe have a few hitouts at VFL, and just see how I’m tracking.”
Read more at:: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-13/concas-untimely-setback
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Reece provides that machine?
yeah, he does.
no conca, no edwards, no deledio. smashed in clearances all day
:pray
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TRADE!!!!!
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TRADE!!!!!
Why would you get now?
Packet of twisties, half a mars bar and a 6 pack of VB
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Yes let's wait until he's worth more......
.......................ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Who were the stuffwits that thought he was good enough to replace Martin?
"stuff Martin " they said
"Conca has re-signed already, so he's a better bloke and player" they said.
Haha
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Conca will replace Knights as the new secret weapon.
Ready to unleash hell on the eve of the finals.
Seriously - when fit this boy is comfortably in our best 22 - so don't understand all the Conca bashing
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Our best 22.
LMAO
OUR BEST 22 is sub par anyway
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C .EllIs and Menadue are doing great now and good on them
But i doubt they can handlseasonwhole season - especially Ellis who hasnt done a pre season.
We are going to really need Conca at some stage this
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That's probably right Mat but he's still over rated.
Pudgey little sniper stuff
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We could have had Heppell
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Conca will replace Knights as the new secret weapon.
Ready to unleash hell on the eve of the finals.
Seriously - when fit this boy is comfortably in our best 22 - so don't understand all the Conca bashing
:clapping
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We could have had Heppell
That rope head is heaps better than tubby the tuba conca.
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We could have had Heppell
....or Prestia.... or Caddy.....
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We could have had Heppell
We don't need anyone who looks like they are auditioning for the Point Break remake.
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Conca on his injury and rehab:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-15/conca-continues-recovery
Conca is still a few weeks away from returning to the playing field, and the Richmond medical staff will be taking no risks with his recovery.
“It’s just a bit of a recurring thing at the moment,” Conca said.
“It’s a specific strength issue we’ve identified. I’ve just got to nail that, get the strength right up, and progress as it comes.
“We’re not putting a time schedule or anything on it. We’re just playing it week by week.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-15/luck-eludes-injured-conca
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He'll be like a new recruit
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I think it's fair to expect more from a number 6 pick. I know he is injured but he always seems to be. Maybe his little body isn't cut out for AFL.
Even when he has played he has shown nothing more than an average player at best. To be totally honest he isn't in my best 22 from what he has produced to date.
I haven't written him off yet but has a long way to go.
Say what you like but this pick has been a fail to date, imagine if we did have Heppel or Caddy running around in a Tigers jumper now, we would be a much better side.
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Is he a true number 6 pick or did Gold Coast and GWS pillage that draft before it occured?
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Is he a true number 6 pick or did Gold Coast and GWS pillage that draft before it occured?
Does that really matter though? Were heppell/caddy and and anyone else taken around that mark true top 10 picks? They are justifying it though. I'm with BT, has been disappointing and the repeat injuries are concerning. I was really looking forward to seeing what he had to offer after finally going through an uninterrupted preseason, howver since feb, its been the usual status quo
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Would have to look at getting him right for the last few games of the season so he can show a bit before the trade period, then off load him.
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Shitman.
Worse than vickery and he's pudgy too.
His injury is the best thing to happen to the club in the last two years
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
He is currently worth nothing and unless something miraculous happens between now and year end that won't change.
Broken.
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Professional part timer.
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
OMFG.. :huh :huh :huh
Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
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Grigg
Newman
Houli
Hunt
:snidegrin
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
OMFG.. :huh :huh :huh
Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
Seriously WAT you have NFI
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I look at West Coast, they kept Gaff, Masten and Sheppard who spudded it up for the first few years and have now blossomed.
Keep Conca unless we get an offer we can't refuse.
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
OMFG.. :huh :huh :huh
Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
Conca is 22, Shane Edwards is now 26 has really blossomed the last 2-3 years and I know many people said he was no good and trade him.
I think Rhys when fit is going to be fantastic for us and is in our best 22.
Could be proven wrong but when he went down in the final, we were really disadvantaged
Fit Conca 100 x > Newman
Patience is a virtue
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Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
"His hearts not in it at Richmond"??????
Really?
So how do you explain why re-signed last time
Seeing he knocked back offers of more money from both WA clubs to stay at Richmond
:huh3
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
:lol
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
:lol
more chance of winning one with conca, than grigg or newman
for mine
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
:lol
more chance of winning one with conca, than grigg or newman
for mine
Can't disagree with that
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
:lol
Glad I amuse you , wasn't even trying to be funny.
Ready for some more comedy. ....Conca , when fit is in our best dozen players - fact
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Yeah, nah....
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If we had picked Heppel instead of Conca, we would be in top 4 ATM and this thread would not exist OR it would be the Heppel thread and i would be saying if we had picked Conca....
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Yeah, nah....
Best 15...
Defiantly first XVIII
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Best 8-10?
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He's been the third best player in rehab after Knights & Foley.
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:snidegrin
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Easily on our best 22
Ahead of a lot of others that are currently running around each week
Can list them if you want but reckon most would know who they are ;D
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Easily on our best 22
Ahead of a lot of others that are currently running around each week
Can list them if you want but reckon most would know who they are ;D
exactly. Heppel makes us top 4 apparently :rollin :lol
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Could easily play the Morris, Newman or Gordon role to better effect.
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He's been the third best player in rehab after Knights & Foley.
:lol
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
OMFG.. :huh :huh :huh
Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
Seriously WAT you have NFI
Seriously YHNFISPOBTRC
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Easily on our best 22
Ahead of a lot of others that are currently running around each week
Can list them if you want but reckon most would know who they are ;D
Like Grigg who you seem to single out more than I did Edwards.
Now is the time to trade Conca, was crap and undisciplined last year and is following in the footsteps of Morris. Trade him now.
The rest of you lot need ta wake up to it!!!!
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Easily on our best 22
Ahead of a lot of others that are currently running around each week
Can list them if you want but reckon most would know who they are ;D
Like Grigg who you seem to single out more than I did Edwards.
Now is the time to trade Conca, was crap and undisciplined last year and is following in the footsteps of Morris. Trade him now.
The rest of you lot need ta wake up to it!!!!
Why do we need to wake up given his talent? So's just don't get your stance
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If the aim is to win a final - we need a fit Conca in the team.
He can make a team that is currently 9-5 better.
:lol
Glad I amuse you , wasn't even trying to be funny.
Ready for some more comedy. ....Conca , when fit is in our best dozen players - fact
I agree Conca is best 22 even best 12. Extremely good in close and has has a great footy brain. He is so far ahead of team mates they can't keep up. Edwards has the same talent.....see the game before others do or can.
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
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Easily on our best 22
Ahead of a lot of others that are currently running around each week
Can list them if you want but reckon most would know who they are ;D
Like Grigg who you seem to single out more than I did Edwards.
Now is the time to trade Conca, was crap and undisciplined last year and is following in the footsteps of Morris. Trade him now.
The rest of you lot need ta wake up to it!!!!
He hasn't even kicked a ball in anger this year WAT .
Nothing like that spud Morrris .
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
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Obviously.
Conca would have good trade value. Cause he is young, has upside was a high pick, puts hishead over tthe ball etc.
He would complement miles, Edwards I think. If he stays and stays fit
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Simply has to be traded now before he's worth nothing.
Agree 100%. Get him off to WCEagles or Freo for one of their kids that isn't getting a chance.
Hayden Crozier
Im in the keep Conca camp. The boy has shown he can play very good footy at the highest level and given time to recover, will show his worth to all :shh
:bow
OMFG.. :huh :huh :huh
Really, rubbish, must be traded, offers nothing. Has offered nothing last season or when fit this season. He will be wanting to to go to WC and we should help him on his way, heart is not in it at Richmond.
Seriously WAT you have NFI
great argument :thumbsdown
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
I hope you are as wrong about Conca as you were about Titch.
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
I hope you are as wrong about Conca as you were about Titch.
So do I but I hope it doesn't take 9 bloody years like it did with Edwards!!! Because our window of opportunity will be shut tight by then!!!!
Trade him while he has the tag "potential".
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Wasn't there a lot of Conca for Gaff talk previously. Wouldn't mind going back and doing that trade
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
I hope you are as wrong about Conca as you were about Titch.
So do I but I hope it doesn't take 9 bloody years like it did with Edwards!!! Because our window of opportunity will be shut tight by then!!!!
Trade him while he has the tag "potential".
Titch had some pretty good games in the past on occasion
People didn't want to know about it
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Back to Fremantle with a 2nd round pick for one of there youngsters is the rumour.
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Back to Fremantle with a 2nd round pick for one of there youngsters is the rumour.
Lachie Weller
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He is tradable, get rid of him while we can.
I hope you are as wrong about Conca as you were about Titch.
So do I but I hope it doesn't take 9 bloody years like it did with Edwards!!! Because our window of opportunity will be shut tight by then!!!!
Trade him while he has the tag "potential".
Titch had some pretty good games in the past on occasion
People didn't want to know about it
Show me where anyone actually disputed this. What some of us have said is he never showed any consistency until last year. he played well a few years ago in 1 season also(cant remember which one), but prior to that his bad was very bad and his good was barely afl standard.
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You want example of Shane being bagged, regardless he was by far not - the worst player in yellow and black? I assure you there is no shortage examples
I don't know if conca will have a similar upward curve but its possible he's got some tools. Like Edwards did / does
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Back to Fremantle with a 2nd round pick for one of there youngsters is the rumour.
Lachie Weller
This has merit, I know for a fact he hates it there and never wanted to go there in the first place.
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Interesting to see how Reece goes tonight. Almost the forgotten Tiger with how long he's been out of the team.
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Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade said Conca would complement the Tigers’ midfield group.
“He’s had two games in the VFL and played some really good footy. He had a lot of touches last week (28 disposals v Sandringham),” he said.
“He’s something we need in our midfield – that little zip-around mid – so we’re happy with that.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-07-31/reece-ready-to-roll-again
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:shh
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The red wog is back! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Wow :thumbsup
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The red wog is back! :clapping :clapping :clapping
Bloody hell we missed this guy
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more important than martin
smarter and has more strings to his bow
Not as crazy as it sounds.
Conca compliments the team perfectly. His tools are great foil for Lids, Chimp etc.
I wouldnt say more important, but hes a smart dude :shh
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Secret weapon :thumbsup
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What did he do ???
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Great game from Conca. Class around the ball and his tackling is outstanding :cheers
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What did he do ???
Still trying to work that out. If he played well I didn't see it but it's good for his trade value
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It's not so much that he played well, more like he played like a bloke who wasn't returning from injury.
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I think he played well and is important structurally. He's that missing rotation. His quickness was surprising too
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It's not so much that he played well, more like he played like a bloke who wasn't returning from injury.
Or hampered by it in the slightest.
But most importantly he played with confidenc, speed and silk. This is not the Conca of the last 18 months.
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Thought he was good last night and as NickSimo said, helped the rotations immensely. Our midfield collectively were stars, never gave their much-vaunted mids a break and pressured them into mistakes and turnovers all night, not an easy kick to be seen.
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He was very good last night for mine, clean, sharp and gave us that extra rotation through the midfield. Very impressive considering the time he's been out
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Secret weapon :thumbsup
That title is already taken pal. :shh
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I thought he was terrific yesterday, he was just around harassing and doing all the hard things, well done to the lad. :clapping
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Secret weapon :thumbsup
That title is already taken pal. :shh
Back up secret weapon .
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What did he do ???
Everything
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(http://media.giphy.com/media/iV0PzUj25DUTS/giphy.gif)
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I must have been taking a whiz
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Or u don't have an understand of the game :shh
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For his first senior game last night i thought he performed very well, he does have a little bit of class about him when in traffic, managed to find his way out of a couple of difficult situations and set u some forward moves. Will only get better and could be the sort of player that peaks around finals time and becomes a valuable addition to the side.
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Trade bait.
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Or u don't have an understand of the game :shh
As u don't, English?
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I thought he was terrific yesterday, he was just around harassing and doing all the hard things, well done to the lad. :clapping
x 2
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Or u don't have an understand of the game :shh
As u don't, English?
Better to understand the finer point of the game
Than to English correctly
If you can't see what he does well I can't help u. Unless you watched it from the ground, then it may have been harder to notice
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Looked a little skinner last night IMO. Which is good because he was still a little heavy for an AFL onballer. Shows he has been working pretty hard and maybe the penny has finally dropped that hard work is the only way to become a consistent AFL footballer.
Good luck to him as he seems to be a really great team man.
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I thought he looked a little leaner too, didnt have thise fat boy arms , saw a bit of muscle . Welcome addition back into the side, improving our depth inch by inch
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Or u don't have an understand of the game :shh
As u don't, English?
Better to understand the finer point of the game
Than to English correctly
If you can't see what he does well I can't help u. Unless you watched it from the ground, then it may have been harder to notice
excepting for work of the ball, you see more of the hard inside work on the tv
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Or u don't have an understand of the game :shh
As u don't, English?
Better to understand the finer point of the game
Than to English correctly
If you can't see what he does well I can't help u. Unless you watched it from the ground, then it may have been harder to notice
excepting for work of the ball, you see more of the hard inside work on the tv
Aye that's what I was getting at
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Conca-tough Tiger has 'bigger fish to fry'
Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
August 3, 2015
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca believes he and his club have "bigger fish to fry" after the Tigers stamped themselves as genuine premiership contenders with an 18-point win over Hawthorn at the MCG on Friday night.
Playing his first senior game for the season after returning from a lengthy stint on the sidelines with a hamstring injury, Conca was a key part of a hard-earned and rewarding Tiger victory.
The 22-year-old thinks his side is building something special this season.
"When I first came in we were just starting and Dimma (coach Damien Hardwick) came through a year before," Conca told AFL.com.au.
"It's been a great journey but we've got some bigger fish to fry later in the year."
Conca, pick No.6 in the 2010 NAB AFL Draft, could not have timed his run back into the senior side any better.
But that's not to say he hasn't felt a significant level of frustration this season. The win over the Hawks was his first AFL appearance since the 2014 Elimination Final loss to Port Adelaide.
Knee and hamstring problems have dogged his 2015 campaign, but Conca has maintained a positive attitude throughout his lengthy recovery.
He was also limited by foot issues in his first few seasons at the Tigers.
In a way, keeping the faith has been forced upon him.
"(Injuries) have been the story of my career. I get a good little patch and then I'm struck by another injury," Conca said.
However he has used his time on the sidelines in a bid to become a better player and hopes he can cement himself as a first-choice midfielder in Richmond's side by the business end of the season.
"It's been a bit of a blessing in disguise," Conca said.
"I'm in the best physical shape I've ever been in. I've come in at the right time. I've got bigger fish to fry and I think I can play a big role in this team come finals."
Hardwick certainly sees the value Conca offers his side, emphasised by the zip and toughness the midfielder showed in collecting 16 disposals and five tackles against the Hawks.
"He can do things that are really clever and he is only going to get better," the coach said after Richmond's most important win of the year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-03/concatough-tiger-has-bigger-fish-to-fry
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We're not in the finals yet Reece.
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Trade value to WC or Freo went up a bit more after Friday. Went ok, good time to get him on the market.
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I wanna see a bit more before we stamp his papers. I thought he was good against hawthorn. if he can continue on that path then maybe he stays - a lot will depend on the next part of the season. needs to make an impact.
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I wanna see a bit more before we stamp his papers. I thought he was good against hawthorn. if he can continue on that path then maybe he stays - a lot will depend on the next part of the season. needs to make an impact.
Agree No More, he is a perfect age for our team and to shuffle him off may not be the best idea. IT all depends on how fit he stays, I think he has plenty of upside.
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His mix of inside/outside compliments chimp, miles sedwards, martin etc. :shh,
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Loser. Like ell
FTO
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Really solid player. We are better with him running around in the seniors in place of Gordon, Petterd and those types
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Loser. Like ell
FTO
I think I like the idea of what Conca could bring to the team. I'm just not convinced he can deliver
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They are the package deal from hell.
step right up!!!
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Still only 22
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Still only 22
bingo
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Still only 22
bingo
:clapping
If they get rid of the Conkinator they are crazy.
Just about to step up to the plate. :pray
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Very good trade bait at this rate!!
Could get us Treloar or a big fish!! Must consider our trade options with Conca. :thumbsup
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Must keep Conca :thumbsup
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Must trade Conca.. :snidegrin
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Why not trade of one the many spuds on the list aged 23 and over, instead
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Why not trade of one the many spuds on the list aged 23 and over, instead
Because they have no value, Conca does.
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Why not trade of one the many spuds on the list aged 23 and over, instead
Because they have no value, Conca does.
I know :-\
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Very good trade bait at this rate!!
Could get us Treloar or a big fish!! Must consider our trade options with Conca. :thumbsup
IF it was Conca (and realistically a pick) for Treloar we'd be silly not to. Doubt it would happen for a number of reasons though
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I want conca AND trelor
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I'd be more inclined to offer a fresh & vintage pack.
Our first rounder plus Axel and Newy,.
Now how could they go past that offer? :shh
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Reminds me of few years ago when some of the mouth breathers over at Big Footy thought the second round pick GWS was reportedly offering for Nahas was unders and an insult.
Good times, good times....
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mouth breathers
I take offence to that
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Why not trade of one the many spuds on the list aged 23 and over, instead
Because hes the only spud we can rubbish other teams with.
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mouth breathers
I take offence to that
Boooooo
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I want conca AND trelor
I want Kendall and Kylie Jenner, but I will on get one.... :snidegrin ;D :thumbsup
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I want conca AND trelor
I want Kendall and Kylie Jenner, but I will on get one.... :snidegrin ;D :thumbsup
No taker for Caitlin?
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I want conca AND trelor
I want Kendall and Kylie Jenner, but I will on get one.... :snidegrin ;D :thumbsup
No taker for Caitlin?
:chuck :chuck :chuck
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I want conca AND trelor
I want Kendall and Kylie Jenner, but I will on get one.... :snidegrin ;D :thumbsup
No taker for Caitlin?
:chuck :chuck :chuck
Never say never WAT.
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I want conca AND trelor
I want Kendall and Kylie Jenner, but I will on get one.... :snidegrin ;D :thumbsup
No taker for Caitlin?
:chuck :chuck :chuck
Never say never WAT.
NEVER.
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mouth breathers
I take offence to that
Boooooo
Racism is rife in this forum
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Great quarter :wallywink
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Not been the worst
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Trade.
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that turn over just before half time was so typical Reece
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Trade bait with Vickery.
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Get your hand of it who cares if his not the worst. He is bad all the same.
Trade Trade Trade
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2 on 1 and he kicks to the 1 crow
Wake up
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I am happy to trade him (and most people on list) but I'd wanna decent pick
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What pick. Use him with our first to get a quality player
He is useless
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The problem is there are ten worse players
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The problem is there are ten worse players
That aren't worth a cent. He at least is worth something when bundled up
You can see how poor we play when lids isn't playing which is why we need more quality mids and Conca ain't one
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The ginger idiot. I call him Ginchode
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The problem is there are ten worse players
That aren't worth a cent. He at least is worth something when bundled up
You can see how poor we play when lids isn't playing which is why we need more quality mids and Conca ain't one
Agree
But then you have ten guys that are not better than conca, still
And no conca and one conca replacement
See how the problem is still there?
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he was horrible
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No I don't see it as I don't have an issue with 10 players only 5 which I have mentioned.
Next crop of chap and batch need to be upgraded only when Hackson finally starts doing his bloody job.
What amazes me was how some were singing hampshits praises after one average game
Goodbye for the last time I hope
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The problem is there are ten worse players
That aren't worth a cent. He at least is worth something when bundled up
You can see how poor we play when lids isn't playing which is why we need more quality mids and Conca ain't one
Agree
But then you have ten guys that are not better than conca, still
And no conca and one conca replacement
See how the problem is still there?
Who's saying we have to keep all those others if Conca goes? Alternatively they can go play in the VFL and be depth as C.Ellis, Menadue, Elton, Butler , McBean etc come up.
Either way, if the Conca replacement is better than Conca - that still improves the list, if not necessarily the depth.
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The problem is there are ten worse players
That aren't worth a cent. He at least is worth something when bundled up
You can see how poor we play when lids isn't playing which is why we need more quality mids and Conca ain't one
Agree
But then you have ten guys that are not better than conca, still
And no conca and one conca replacement
See how the problem is still there?
Who's saying we have to keep all those others if Conca goes? Alternatively they can go play in the VFL and be depth as C.Ellis, Menadue, Elton, Butler , McBean etc come up.
Either way, if the Conca replacement is better than Conca - that still improves the list, if not necessarily the depth.
History has shown dimma loves his plodder mates
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We lose WITH him.
His tempo forces e erroneous else to speed up.
Useless.
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What happened to my back flipping gif from last week? I wanted to bump it :shh
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Trade and do it this year.
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yep I wanted to see if he could be consistent. he couldn't even do it for 2 weeks running. so its time to send him back to wa at the end of the season.
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Reece's monkey?
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no worse than ellis, who would have way more trade value, and doesnt get involved in the hard stuff like reece does.
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Trade them both.
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no worse than ellis, who would have way more trade value, and doesnt get involved in the hard stuff like reece does.
They're both negatives.
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no worse than ellis, who would have way more trade value, and doesnt get involved in the hard stuff like reece does.
They're both negatives.
We haven't got the balls to trade players like Ellis, Conca or Griff.
I know people will say they need to agree to it but if you let them know their next contract won't be very healthy then I'm sure they will run for the door.
My old mate Blind Freddy can see that they won't get us anywhere.
Our first pick and Ellis for Treloar
Conca for Yarran
Griff for Motlop
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no worse than ellis, who would have way more trade value, and doesnt get involved in the hard stuff like reece does.
They're both negatives.
We haven't got the balls to trade players like Ellis, Conca or Griff.
I know people will say they need to agree to it but if you let them know their next contract won't be very healthy then I'm sure they will run for the door.
My old mate Blind Freddy can see that they won't get us anywhere.
Our first pick and Ellis for Treloar
Conca for Yarran
Griff for Motlop
Like this. :thumbsup, maybe first rounder and Try Batch first for Treloar
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Well to be fair, clubs will pay overs for talls....even crappy ones...not sure Geelong would give us Motlop for Griffiths though....
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Because I can. I rate his trade value but i don't rate his future with us, he is a plodder, its the unknown that other clubs will risk.
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Ooh you mean like
Stanley
Hampson etc
Don't remember anyone saying griff for motlop either.
We also came very close to getting trengrove FFS with a high pick. Average draft clubs will be out to trade.
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Sadly, I think Griff's injury woes will hurt his value markedly.
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Don't remember anyone saying griff for motlop either.
Griff for Motlop
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Don't remember anyone saying griff for motlop either.
Griff for Motlop
im sure it was a typo as bt knows his stuff.
griffiths that little princess aint worth much straight up at present. bundled up though im sure there will be some takers but i wouldnt even bother while we have another vickery hanging around.
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Griff would be worth a lot
Look at Stanley
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who is the guy on here that ran water for Rawlings at Coburg.
also really disapponting to learn of another Conca set back. He can play but ba geez are the injuries getting the better of him
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Don't remember anyone saying griff for motlop either.
Griff for Motlop
im sure it was a typo as bt knows his stuff.
Bt is yet to prove he knows his stuff
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Do you rate Griff?
I think clubs will see a 200cm, 100KG player that can kick the footy a long way (not straight) and can take a big mark. All pretty good things for an AFL footballer. So that why I think he is worth something. I personally don't but that's the strange thing about people having different opinions on things and players.
I don't rate him because of the stuff he doesn't do well, but there are heaps that do.
Pretty simple for people with half a brain. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :wallywink
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Griff for Motlop :lol :lol :lol :lol
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Do you rate Griff?
I think clubs will see a 200cm, 100KG player that can kick the footy a long way (not straight) and can take a big mark. All pretty good things for an AFL footballer. So that why I think he is worth something. I personally don't but that's the strange thing about people having different opinions on things and players.
I don't rate him because of the stuff he doesn't do well, but there are heaps that do.
Pretty simple for people with half a brain. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :wallywink
Fair call BT, bur wht not keep him? Motlop is no good
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What? Are you drunk?
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Until vickery proves he can hold his own Griffiths should stay.
I would be more trying to work out how to sack the forward coach, a guy who has failed in the last few years. Not going to win many flags if you can't score over 80
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I've been told , motlop is pretty good
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at times.....
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How can you not rate a player in the slightest but think we could trade them and get an upgrade (i.e Griff for Motlop) :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Do you rate Griff?
I think clubs will see a 200cm, 100KG player that can kick the footy a long way (not straight) and can take a big mark. All pretty good things for an AFL footballer. So that why I think he is worth something. I personally don't but that's the strange thing about people having different opinions on things and players.
I don't rate him because of the stuff he doesn't do well, but there are heaps that do.
Pretty simple for people with half a brain. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :wallywink
Ahhh I get it now. It all comes down to your astute football knowledge and your ability to know how a players career is going to turn out before most other people because you see things before others?
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:lol
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:lol :lol
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Don't remember anyone saying griff for motlop either.
Griff for Motlop
im sure it was a typo as bt knows his stuff.
Bt is yet to prove he knows his stuff
I'm sure it was a typo and Angus meant to write "bt knows stuff all."
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Snip :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults, argue your points without the naming calling. Referring to other posters as morons, idiots, wankers, ..want me to go on? Is not on
And reminder calling for or suggesting other posters should be banned can result in suspension for the poster making that suggestion
So stick to the bloody topic
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So is Conca's hammy serious?
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So is Conca's hammy serious?
2-week hammy according to the RFC website.
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Snip :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults, argue your points without the naming calling. Referring to other posters as morons, idiots, wankers, ..want me to go on? Is not on
And reminder calling for or suggesting other posters should be banned can result in suspension for the poster making that suggestion
So stick to the bloody topic
could you please go on I missed what the other names were before the snip
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So is Conca's hammy serious?
2-week hammy according to the RFC website.
But can we trust them?
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So is Conca's hammy serious?
2-week hammy according to the RFC website.
But can we trust them?
If they had said "one week" then definitely not :snidegrin.
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So is Conca's hammy serious?
2-week hammy according to the RFC website.
But can we trust them?
No.
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Pudgey disposition and imdisciplined dietary habits.
Tries too hard.
People used him as an example of the type of person the club needed
While dusty was being shopped, because he signed early. Lmao.
stuffen dud.
Would have preferred to keep Matty White.
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And the little pig is on good money too.
Is his contract up this year?
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Contracted to 2016 unfortunately
Absolute dud in my eyes but others might see him differently
Use him with our first pick and get someone descent into our club not some chubby red head
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Pudgey disposition and imdisciplined dietary habits.
Tries too hard.
People used him as an example of the type of person the club needed
While dusty was being shopped, because he signed early. Lmao.
stuffen dud.
Would have preferred to keep Matty White.
.matty played a great game last night against Hawthorn
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Contracted to 2016 unfortunately
Absolute dud in my eyes but others might see him differently
Use him with our first pick and get someone descent into our club not some chubby red head
I don't think he is a dud but you'd have to be nutty to not agree with putting him up for a trade if it was the difference between getting Treloar or the like
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Trade!!!, Trade him with our first round pick, Morris and Batch, get the job done Tiges, GET TRELOAR!!!!
That way they have a player in Conca and two more cleaners for the change rooms.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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Would not trade unless very good offer
same as B.Ellis, Griffiths etc.
younger age group player that are not indispensable
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
Conca wont get us anything special. At best if there is a kid who isn't getting a game at Freo or WCE that our recruiters rate - and that may in itself be a win but we are not getting any ready made established stars by trading Conca.
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IF Conca can get his body right, he will be more than useful for our side. Has class, is tough and uses the ball well. Just needs to string together some games.
His trade worth is no way near what he is capable of, therefore he won't be moved on unless he requests to be.
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Bloke should be traded. Would take a late first/early second round pick for sure and consider myself better off...
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We've hubng in to enough likely types for the last decade only to look back in regret
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
IMHO - all the 'younger' players that regularly get a game currently, have value
Conca
B.Ellis
Vickery
Griffiths
Bachelor
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Bloke should be traded. Would take a late first/early second round pick for sure and consider myself better off...
:thumbsup :thumbsup
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
Like Stanley?
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It doesn't matter what us clowns think it's what others perceive they are worth. Conca plus our first pick is a top 10 pick or a Treloar type
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
Like Stanley?
wat?
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the funniest thing on footy forums, and they all the same, is to see someone constantly tell us how poo certain players are, then think they can package said players together to trade for a quality player
:lol
Like Stanley?
wat?
stanley was generally seen as an average, or below average type
and yet was essentially traded for pick 21
disproving your theory
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one person (who was rated by many btw) disproves my theory that you cant bundle up supposed hacks together to meet the trade value of a quality player?
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Wasted year, one comes in one goes out.
Let's see what happens don't mind Concs
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one person (who was rated by many btw)
orly :snidegrin
disproves my theory that you cant bundle up supposed hacks together to meet the trade value of a quality player?
it proves just cause many think a player is rubbish - ala stanley
doesnt mean a club wont get a pick 20 for them. more so if they are young and tall possibly
conca is not tall but i dont doubt there would be at least one club willing to pay overs for him - cause he was a high draft pick, cracks in pretty hard and can play a bit (imho)
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ok you change what im saying to suit yourself ::)
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TRADE!!!!
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This bloke is the most pathetic player I've seen in the last decade, yet some still make excuses for him
Dud of the highest order
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What for - a Big Mac meal deal?
He's stuffn pooful.
Who'd want it?
Just sack the fat idiot.
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Whoever picked him for today should be sacked. He has never and will never be able to either make a top class decision and more importantly will not be able to execute it. He butchered an amazingly simple chance today.
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Whoever picked him for today should be sacked. He has never and will never be able to either make a top class decision and more importantly will not be able to execute it. He butchered an amazingly simple chance today.
:snidegrin
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Griffiths Conca
What 10 games this year
Both selected with no match fitness
Incredible. Yes let's give another 3 yrs ramps and bojangles?
Fat prick
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The only team in the comp who picks a little fat pit with no game time and heaps of injuries as a SUB.
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North wouldn't have believed their luck when they saw the ins.
It all fell into place nicely for them.
Only at Richmond
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This bloke is the most pathetic player I've seen in the last decade, yet some still make excuses for him
Dud of the highest order
Didn't watch Chaplin then :whistle
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Will be our next Captain this champ, magic beard, old reds out and about, will eventually push Cothin out of the role. Maybe even win a Brownlow Dad says.
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This bloke is the most pathetic player I've seen in the last decade, yet some still make excuses for him
Dud of the highest order
Didn't watch Chaplin then :whistle
Chaplin leaves him for dead.
What pick was Chap again?
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chaplin was pick #15 in the Cooney/Walker draft
Conca is 23 yoa so he might develop into a handy player. chappy is a troublesome plodder
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I meant for us Bents.
Conca is pathetic anyone can see that and will amaze me if he is not offered up to the blues.
Facts are our defence is our best performed section on the ground so let's look at fixing our other holes first.
Chaplin needs to be upgraded no one can argue with that, but we have so many holes that we need to prioritise and IMO chap can wait.
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Trading Lennon & keeping Conca would be laughable....
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Trading Lennon & keeping Conca would be laughable....
X100,000,000
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Trading Lennon & keeping Conca would be laughable....
Laughably entertained at our end
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Well he has another year on his contract.
Relax people. He wasn't to blame.
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yet nor was Lennon ...
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Well he has another year on his contract.
Relax people. He wasn't to blame.
Here we go again with the contract crap... :banghead
If we wanted him to leave and a club like WCE wanted him and he wanted to go home.....it's fine.
Yarran has a year left on his contract too....do we get it now????
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yet nor was Lennon ...
Correct.
Look at Grigg, Chaplin, B.Ellis, Edwards, Batchelor, Maric to blame.
Did not give ANYTHING when it all mattered.
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yet nor was Lennon ...
Correct.
Look at Grigg, Chaplin, B.Ellis, Edwards, Batchelor, Maric to blame.
Did not give ANYTHING when it all mattered.
how very selective
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yet nor was Lennon ...
Correct.
Look at Grigg, Chaplin, B.Ellis, Edwards, Batchelor, Maric to blame.
Did not give ANYTHING when it all mattered.
how very selective
Cotchin, Martin, Lids?
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yet nor was Lennon ...
Correct.
Look at Grigg, Chaplin, B.Ellis, Edwards, Batchelor, Maric to blame.
Did not give ANYTHING when it all mattered.
how very selective
Cotchin, Martin, Lids?
And the rest
What pick was Chap again?
Free agent, didn't cost us a pick
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Conca would equate more of a like for like trade for Yarran.
We gave up too much for Hampson.
This after we got the better of the Grigg/Collins deal.
The Grigg relationship should be over now. No more upside.
BTW Cotchin and Lids should also have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
9 posessions in a final from our skipper. One week on and I'm still filthy.
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i'd trade conca for a pack of twisties
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Well if we can trade Conca for him, kudos.
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Could always trade Conca to the WCE for thier first pick and on trade that to the blues..
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Conca would equate more of a like for like trade for Yarran.
We gave up too much for Hampson.
This after we got the better of the Grigg/Collins deal.
The Grigg relationship should be over now. No more upside.
BTW Cotchin and Lids should also have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
9 posessions in a final from our skipper. One week on and I'm still filthy.
we didnt give up too much for Hamspon. We never should have got him at all
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If Conca went back home to either WA side I'd be demanding either Lycett or Zac Clarke or Hannath as a straight swap to help boost our ruck stocks.
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Conca would equate more of a like for like trade for Yarran.
We gave up too much for Hampson.
This after we got the better of the Grigg/Collins deal.
The Grigg relationship should be over now. No more upside.
BTW Cotchin and Lids should also have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
9 posessions in a final from our skipper. One week on and I'm still filthy.
we didnt give up too much for Hamspon. We never should have got him at all
Pick 28 or therabouts. In hindsight Lewis Taylor was somewhere there to win the rising star in 2014.
Given what is alleged we paid for him and the return on our investment i reckon we paid overs. We could have had a kid on our list who may be a 200 gamer. Hampson was a panic buy given the way we lost the ruck and clearances in the the Elim versus Carlton in 2013.
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If Conca went back home to either WA side I'd be demanding either Lycett or Zac Clarke or Hannath as a straight swap to help boost our ruck stocks.
Like this thinking Don although I was thinking Benny G as they need a forward who can ruck a little and we need a Ruck who can drift forward.
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Conca would equate more of a like for like trade for Yarran.
We gave up too much for Hampson.
This after we got the better of the Grigg/Collins deal.
The Grigg relationship should be over now. No more upside.
BTW Cotchin and Lids should also have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
9 posessions in a final from our skipper. One week on and I'm still filthy.
we didnt give up too much for Hamspon. We never should have got him at all
Pick 28 or therabouts. In hindsight Lewis Taylor was somewhere there to win the rising star in 2014.
Given what is alleged we paid for him and the return on our investment i reckon we paid overs. We could have had a kid on our list who may be a 200 gamer. Hampson was a panic buy given the way we lost the ruck and clearances in the the Elim versus Carlton in 2013.
So there's a price we could have paid that you would currently be happy with the situation?
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Conca would equate more of a like for like trade for Yarran.
We gave up too much for Hampson.
This after we got the better of the Grigg/Collins deal.
The Grigg relationship should be over now. No more upside.
BTW Cotchin and Lids should also have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
9 posessions in a final from our skipper. One week on and I'm still filthy.
we didnt give up too much for Hamspon. We never should have got him at all
Pick 28 or therabouts. In hindsight Lewis Taylor was somewhere there to win the rising star in 2014.
Given what is alleged we paid for him and the return on our investment i reckon we paid overs. We could have had a kid on our list who may be a 200 gamer. Hampson was a panic buy given the way we lost the ruck and clearances in the the Elim versus Carlton in 2013.
So there's a price we could have paid that you would currently be happy with the situation?
No. Should have stayed well away. Wasn't happy then and still not happy now. Would have Ben happier to keep the pick. Never rated Hampson.
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so its not a case of paying to much, we should never have bought.
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1. Should not have bought.
Fact that we did IMHO what we paid for was well over.
Anyway.
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fact that we did is a stuff up. would not have mattered if we gave up pick 123 which was never used, it was still a stuff up. he was recruited specifically to fill a need and he hasn't been able to fill that need. Recruiting him was the stuff up, after that nothing matters. whatever we ever gave for him would have been too much
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i honestly cant remember anyone on here who said they were happy before the fact let alone after.
A proven dud before and still to this day who cant even impact at vfl level.
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i honestly cant remember anyone on here who said they were happy before the fact let alone after.
A proven dud before and still to this day who cant even impact at vfl level.
Think there were a couple happy with it
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There were plenty but like him, have no ticker
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I don't understand the level of vitriol this forum has towards Conca.
He's been injured all year to the point where 2015 has been a write off.
Sure he's not Garry Abblet jnr - but he's hardly a potato.
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Conca sits in the same echelon as Grigg, Batchelor, Chaplin and B Ellis, he is tradable, he will never be anything special, he is another plodder, happy to sit back and let the rest do the work.
TRADE!!!
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Did we mention he has no heart, much like most of his other mates. He is worth something though being a high pick but that is evaporating.
Was he injured in 2014, No!
His return from 19 games was 3 goals. Thats not going to win you a final let alone a flag.
Trade the bum to anyone who wants a female in their team.
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Did we mention he has no heart, much like most of his other mates. He is worth something though being a high pick but that is evaporating.
Was he injured in 2014, No!
His return from 19 games was 3 goals. Thats not going to win you a final let alone a flag.
Trade the bum to anyone who wants a female in their team.
Averaged 19 tackles, 5 tackles . No not elite and definitely tradeable but to question his heart and call him a female is just not correct
People need to look at him for what he is, an inside mid. Not what they want him to be, yet another outside goal kicking mid
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Did we mention he has no heart, much like most of his other mates. He is worth something though being a high pick but that is evaporating.
Was he injured in 2014, No!
His return from 19 games was 3 goals. Thats not going to win you a final let alone a flag.
Trade the bum to anyone who wants a female in their team.
Averaged 19 tackles, 5 tackles . No not elite and definitely tradeable but to question his heart and call him a female is just not correct
People need to look at him for what he is, an inside mid. Not what they want him to be, yet another outside goal kicking mid
3 goals is not enough i dont care whether your in or out. As for his disposals you can argue each one of those are not penetrating or damaging to opposition teams. He has proven this over his career to date.
The act to knock a bloke from behind was a cowards play. You can forgive him if he was any good which he is not IMO.
if the club wants to win flags find or develop goal kicking mids. Its that simple.
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Lot of posts about a dud who doesn't have the consistency or the brain power to become what we need.
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move him onto freo needs a fresh start and providing fre don't touch bennel or redden happy to let him go...
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Please enlighten me. Seems almost everyone on this forum wants him gone.
I don't judge him on his 2015 season. Played well against the Hawks . Ordinary against the Crows.
Not his fault the Coach selected him ( not match fit ) in that final.
Did we pay " overs " - possibly , but this is hardly a mistake of " Tambling ' proportions.
I thought back in 2014 , he was comfortably in our top dozen players.
He will be like a new recruit next year.
The only thing I was really disappointed with was that " dog act " where he hit the GWS bloke from behind.
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I don't think he's a good player. Don't think he's tough, don't think his disposal is any good, and he can't find the pill.
In 2014 he averaged less than 19 disposals and about 5 tackles per match. That's a B-grade footballer at best, in his finest season.
He's like Kelvin Moore. Average until injured, then he's one of our best players...
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Over lauded.
Nutritionally undisciplined.
Can't sit in the team tempos after three plus years.
Is a poofter.
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He's like a Sicilian Rhelton Roberts, for sucks sake.
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Has he ever done a full pre season ?
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Pick 6 for a jam donut.
Ive defended him in the past but after spraying the ball around in the EF ive had enough. Can't hit a target over 20m. Spoons the ball when under minimal pressure to players who are under pressure.
Ill diciplined and Ill tempered.
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
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Please enlighten me. Seems almost everyone on this forum wants him gone.
I don't judge him on his 2015 season. Played well against the Hawks . Ordinary against the Crows.
Not his fault the Coach selected him ( not match fit ) in that final.
Did we pay " overs " - possibly , but this is hardly a mistake of " Tambling ' proportions.
I thought back in 2014 , he was comfortably in our top dozen players.
He will be like a new recruit next year.
The only thing I was really disappointed with was that " dog act " where he hit the GWS bloke from behind.
Agree with this ^
Also, think he is one of only a few at our club who's tackles actually stick
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
And you know this how? Think this is incorrect as it was widely reported he took unders to stay, knocked back a huge offer from Freo. SO not sure
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
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Can someone please explain to me what exactly he has done that has impressed them consistently since he joined the club??
What were his breakout games since joining the club, when has he really taken a game buy the scruff of the neck and made an impact? Please list with examples.
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The post previous to yours has offered an answer.
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.... Don't think he's tough ...
I agree his disposal can be poor on occasion, but he has to be one of our 'tougher' players. Never squibs a contest, rarely has a tackle broken when he lays it. He's been disappointing and I'd say injuries play a huge part in that. When fit (2013) he offers good run and often makes good decisions with the ball.
If Conca is fit he is better than the bottom 6 players we currently use = win for us.
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Please enlighten me. Seems almost everyone on this forum wants him gone.
I don't judge him on his 2015 season. Played well against the Hawks . Ordinary against the Crows.
Not his fault the Coach selected him ( not match fit ) in that final.
Did we pay " overs " - possibly , but this is hardly a mistake of " Tambling ' proportions.
I thought back in 2014 , he was comfortably in our top dozen players.
He will be like a new recruit next year.
The only thing I was really disappointed with was that " dog act " where he hit the GWS bloke from behind.
Agree with this ^
Also, think he is one of only a few at our club who's tackles actually stick
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
And you know this how? Think this is incorrect as it was widely reported he took unders to stay, knocked back a huge offer from Freo. SO not sure
At the time it was reported IIRC he was on 350-400k pa, which isn't alot for a good player but we're talking about a guy who is will be in his 6th season of afl next year, can't get on the park, but when he does is a liability.
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The post previous to yours has offered an answer.
Sorry I missed the listed games where he broke them open, made an impact and took the game by the scruff of the neck, as I have only ever seem him take a player by the scruff of the neck from behind, very tough!..you must have seen them listed through the RCG's!!
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The post previous to yours has offered an answer.
No it didnt
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
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I'll answer the question.
In 2014 he polled 2 Brownlow votes to bring his career tally to '3'.
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/reece-conca
3 votes in 70 odd games for a pick 6 on 400k
Give the guy a contact extension it's the richmond way :clapping
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There are worse than Reece Conca on our list. Our clean up should begin there.
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I'll answer the question.
In 2014 he polled 2 Brownlow votes to bring his career tally to '3'.
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/reece-conca
3 votes in 70 odd games for a pick 6 on 400k
Give the guy a contact extension it's the richmond way :clapping
Enough said!!!!!
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There are worse than Reece Conca on our list. Our clean up should begin there.
Arguably yes or no....but there are separate threads for that and in any event, it shouldn't be used as an excuse to overlook his fundamental shortcomings
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
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I am not trying to ignore his short comings. I don't hate Conca as a player nor do I love him. I am quite ambivalent toward him in fact. But he is a whipping boy. Ox, as an example calls him fat in other threads and at 185 cm and 78 kegs he has me getting lap band surgery.
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I'll answer the question.
In 2014 he polled 2 Brownlow votes to bring his career tally to '3'.
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/reece-conca
3 votes in 70 odd games for a pick 6 on 400k
Give the guy a contact extension it's the richmond way :clapping
Enough said!!!!!
Well he had an infinitely better 2014 than Robert Murphy.
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I am not trying to ignore his short comings. I don't hate Conca as a player nor do I love him. I am quite ambivalent toward him in fact. But he is a whipping boy. Ox, as an example calls him fat in other threads and at 185 cm and 78 kegs he has me getting lap band surgery.
im sure his skin folds aren't up to the required level.
can the guy tackle? yes but so can newman and morris should we keep those 2 as well. :shh
Im more about his so called damaging foot skills. Gee whiz his 20 metre kicks that he is so fond off are momentum killers
as for freo offering him a massive deal well in this instance we are made to look like even bigger fools for not letting him go for a trade.
The biggest problem with this guy is not with him, its with the bloke who selected him and the club for making the biggest blunder since i can remember. Heppell was a sure thing but hackson had to think outside the square and screw it up yet again.
Anyway whats done is done but they can still offload him and that is exactly what i would do for one of the west australian ruckman not getting senior opportunities.
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When put in light of Heppell then, yes, it doesn't look great. But like you said, he is not to blame for that, the club is.
I also agree a trade for a ruck from WA would be good, once again that doesn't mean I have hate for him, he is tradeable. But do the clubs from the west wish to trade their rucks and do they want to come?
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
Kicked 3 goals against Brisbane in 2013 and backed it up with another 3 goals against GWS two weeks later.
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Less soft than Houli
Less rubbish than grigg
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
Kicked 3 goals against Brisbane in 2013 and backed it up with another 3 goals against GWS two weeks later.
WOW look out, he's on fire and in 2013...WHOA!!!!!! Nearly as good as Lloyd.. :snidegrin
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Because Heppell & Prestia....
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Pick 6 for a jam donut.
Ive defended him in the past but after spraying the ball around in the EF ive had enough. Can't hit a target over 20m. Spoons the ball when under minimal pressure to players who are under pressure.
Ill diciplined and Ill tempered.
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
yeah, who'd have thought that a bloke who has barely played any senior footy for 12 months and not too much footy at all this season would struggle with the intesnity when thrown into an AFL final without having played any footy for 8 weeks or so?
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
And you post about trolling ::)
He has some talent but :-
He's not the 6th best player from 2010 draft
He can't get fit - injury or skin folds
I'm just losing faith that he's body will hold up long enough to see if he's talent will hold up
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Never rated him and was a big critic of his selection for the match, but to be fair, apart from that stupid turnover, thought he went alright in the final all things considered....ran the ball out of defence well and that one-on-one steal for the goal was pretty damn good...
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Isn't it because he is an indigenous black Muslim ranga?
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Trade to the WCE for Selwood... :thumbsup :snidegrin
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RCG's!!
What is this RCG or RCGG as I've seen posted in other threads
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RCG's!!
What is this RCG or RCGG as I've seen posted in other threads
The people on this forum that look through Rose Coloured Glasses at the RFC, the "Rose Coloured Glass Gang"!! The RFC can do no wrong and the team we have is the capable of winning the flag with the players we have.
No doubt now an opposite acronym will be sourced.. :snidegrin
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it's meant to be an insult to those who dont go getting all upset over things they cant control
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it's meant to be an insult to those who dont go getting all upset over things they cant control
Your being silly again, it is how I explained it.
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Nah I think the sheila nailed it
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
Kicked 3 goals against Brisbane in 2013 and backed it up with another 3 goals against GWS two weeks later.
Against quality defense ::)
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it's meant to be an insult to those who dont go getting all upset over things they cant control
I thought it was an insult to people who don't use !!!!! and ????? at the end of every post?
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same, same...
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Conca is a gutsy determined footballer,who wins his own ball..What in my opinion lets him down badly is his decision making which is almost the worst i have seen at Richmond for quite a few years
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he's not horrible, but he's horrible
nothing surprises me in football anymore, absolutely nothing. i'd be surprised if he reached his potential
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Pick 6 for a jam donut.
Ive defended him in the past but after spraying the ball around in the EF ive had enough. Can't hit a target over 20m. Spoons the ball when under minimal pressure to players who are under pressure.
Ill diciplined and Ill tempered.
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
yeah, who'd have thought that a bloke who has barely played any senior footy for 12 months and not too much footy at all this season would struggle with the intesnity when thrown into an AFL final without having played any footy for 8 weeks or so?
True, and yet Conca should have said that he wasn't ready to play with no AFL level match fitness. The same way Stokes did for Geelong in 2009 when he pulled out for a prelim for being unfit and missing a premiership.
He wanted to play and knew he was underdone.
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
Kicked 3 goals against Brisbane in 2013 and backed it up with another 3 goals against GWS two weeks later.
WOW look out, he's on fire and in 2013...WHOA!!!!!! Nearly as good as Lloyd.. :snidegrin
How often do midfielders kick 3 goals in a game .
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Pick 6 for a jam donut.
Ive defended him in the past but after spraying the ball around in the EF ive had enough. Can't hit a target over 20m. Spoons the ball when under minimal pressure to players who are under pressure.
Ill diciplined and Ill tempered.
And we are paying through the nose for him salary wise.
Im with you Dooks. I've run out of patience with him.
His turnover running out of defence in the elim was sooooooo deflating.
He just can't kick the footy.
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Can't kick and never will, got a horrible ball drop - watch how much his kicks spin. Is tough, tackles well and I like how he usually hits the packs at full speed, but eff me his disposal is atrocious under pressure
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Said it many times before, Conca can play and play very well. We all see things differently but i see a player who sticks tackles, runs into the rights positions, gets the hardball, clearances, kicks well enough, team player, brings others into the game like Edwards does and even he still cops it from some :P. Keeper for mine :clapping
We require times, opponents and dates of this please?
You only need to watch the game with open eyes and you will see that can play the game. But again, its my opinion :whistle
Which "game"?
Kicked 3 goals against Brisbane in 2013 and backed it up with another 3 goals against GWS two weeks later.
WOW look out, he's on fire and in 2013...WHOA!!!!!! Nearly as good as Lloyd.. :snidegrin
How often do midfielders kick 3 goals in a game .
I'd say weekly. Probably at least 4 out of 9 games every round.
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I PUT IT DOWN TO LITTLE MAN SYNDROME
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I PUT IT DOWN TO LITTLE MAN SYNDROME
:lol
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Thing that annoys me is some of the best kicks I've ever seen have come off his boot under pressure. Think he struggles more in the open
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Realistically he is just a battler. And if we picked him up at pick 50 and he had played 50 odd games for the club I think most people would be pretty happy with him. But the simple fact is we judge players on where they get picked up in the draft. And pick 6 puts him in the JON category if you consider the drafts they were both in.
Not even in my starting 22 if I were to pick a side today even if he was fit, and that being the case if we could get a trade for someone that potentially is would be a bonus and a way of cutting our losers and moving on.
We all talk and hope we will pick up a "big fish" this year but having pick 6 in a very good draft is the easiest way to do that. And it's years before you have to pay them what they are actually worth. Add Heppel to our side this year and we are top 4..... And then who knows....
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Thing that annoys me is some of the best kicks I've ever seen have come off his boot under pressure. Think he struggles more in the open
Mental weakness.
But then again, the club drafted him ahead of others because he's a quality guy
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I wouldn't go as far and call him JON. After all JON played less than 10 games in a side that really really struggled, at least Reece is better. Yep the thing that irks us we gave away pick 6. Spot on.
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Thing that annoys me is some of the best kicks I've ever seen have come off his boot under pressure. Think he struggles more in the open
Mental weakness.
But then again, the club drafted him ahead of others because he's a quality guy
Yep Conca Cuddles for all.
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Trade.
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I wouldn't go as far and call him JON. After all JON played less than 10 games in a side that really really struggled, at least Reece is better. Yep the thing that irks us we gave away pick 6. Spot on.
All I mean with the JON reference is the quality of drafts and maybe what we could have had instead of either of them.
Actually saw JON at the GF on Saturday. :lol
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I remember at the time we drafted both he and Ellis the club lauded their foot skills and now they're both below average kicks. Maybe Richmond turns them into poor kicks.
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I wouldn't go as far and call him JON. After all JON played less than 10 games in a side that really really struggled, at least Reece is better. Yep the thing that irks us we gave away pick 6. Spot on.
All I mean with the JON reference is the quality of drafts and maybe what we could have had instead of either of them.
Actually saw JON at the GF on Saturday. :lol
That's pretty much the history of the RFC since the Pitura deal.
Wrong player, high price, huge mistake big reverberations.
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There are worse than Reece Conca on our list. Our clean up should begin there.
Why is this always thrown up when players are criticised. He may not be in the bottom 6 worst so that then means two things, we lack quality and depth and he should have some sort of value in a trade.
When will the basic principal of it is better to trade a player while he still has some sort of percieved value, rather than waiting until he is worthless come into existence at our club and with our supporters.
This is what people are saying, get something back on our original investment while we can.
It really is a trait of the club to hang onto players for as long as they can in the hope they will become top players, invariably we end up keeping them for 6 7 8 yrs and get nothing at the end of it all.
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I never said not to trade him just that our clean up should start below him.
You said we lack quality depth, I'll go one step further, it's atrocious. Other than that, i agree.
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The problem I we have a plethora of hacks aged 25 plus
Why worry about conca?
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We need a big clean out
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It's about trade currency.....u by could POSSIBLY have some.
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I can't find where us was being spoken about
But I think conca would have a but I currency
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Reece reviewing his "frustrating" 2015 season on 'Roar Vision' ....
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-27/conca-season-review-2015
* It’s extremely frustrating. Sort of been the story of my career a little bit.
* Obviously this year’s probably been a bit more significant in that I missed pretty much the whole season. I played three games overall, whereas in previous years I’d been able to scrape through 17-18 games. I’d sort of get the hamstring right, then come back and two or three times I’d play a couple of games and then get re-injured. You get your hopes up and then you get crushed again. I guess playing in the elimination final was a little bit of a bonus at the end of a pretty disappointing year.
* I feel in really good nick physically, so I’m pretty sure that all my injuries should be behind me from here on in. I’m looking forward to a massive pre-season and a big season next year.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-10-27/conca-confident-about-2016
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He will prove a lot of people right and just as many wrong.
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Reece reviewing his "frustrating" 2015 season on 'Roar Vision' ....
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-27/conca-season-review-2015
* It’s extremely frustrating. Sort of been the story of my career a little bit.
* Obviously this year’s probably been a bit more significant in that I missed pretty much the whole season. I played three games overall, whereas in previous years I’d been able to scrape through 17-18 games. I’d sort of get the hamstring right, then come back and two or three times I’d play a couple of games and then get re-injured. You get your hopes up and then you get crushed again. I guess playing in the elimination final was a little bit of a bonus at the end of a pretty disappointing year.
* I feel in really good nick physically, so I’m pretty sure that all my injuries should be behind me from here on in. I’m looking forward to a massive pre-season and a big season next year.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-10-27/conca-confident-about-2016
A bonus allright. You were gifted an elimination final by dimwit.
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You watch how pooful he is AGAIN in 2016.
Will do the little outside player things occasionally, will manage to look busy running with theop
But really, his effectivity is stuff all.
This is another one who would have been cut anywhere else.
Why do you insist on thinking he will "come good"
J F C !
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....Hardwick will even risk losing real talent like Lennon to gift this hack games....
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Reece reviewing his "frustrating" 2015 season on 'Roar Vision' ....
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-27/conca-season-review-2015
* It’s extremely frustrating. Sort of been the story of my career a little bit.
* Obviously this year’s probably been a bit more significant in that I missed pretty much the whole season. I played three games overall, whereas in previous years I’d been able to scrape through 17-18 games. I’d sort of get the hamstring right, then come back and two or three times I’d play a couple of games and then get re-injured. You get your hopes up and then you get crushed again. I guess playing in the elimination final was a little bit of a bonus at the end of a pretty disappointing year.
* I feel in really good nick physically, so I’m pretty sure that all my injuries should be behind me from here on in. I’m looking forward to a massive pre-season and a big season next year.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-10-27/conca-confident-about-2016
A bonus allright. You were gifted an elimination final by dimwit.
A bonus for North too. They couldn't believe their luck when selections were announced, and boy all those expected soft turnovers were welcomed with open arms.
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Geez
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Last chance for me. We have too many of similar types in the side so he needs to perform big time. If he does his hamstring again he is goneski for me. Can't afford to carry types like him on the list. Harsh but true.
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FHO
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just wait for his next sizzling pass to the opposition and your mind will be made up...it made up my mind a few years back
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Nutritionally undisciplined, hits blokes from behind and is always injured. Lmao
GIVE HIM ANOTHER THREE, RFC!!!?
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Endomorphs should stick to darts
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
You'll find out in 5 years
Looks like a bust doesn't it
Conca is on the fringe of the 22 for mine
Less rubbish than grigg
Hopefully he has a big season to support vlastuin and C Ellis
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
You'll find out in 5 years
Looks like a bust doesn't it
Conca is on the fringe of the 22 for mine
Less rubbish than grigg
Hopefully he has a big season to support vlastuin and C Ellis
One of the things I don't get about Conca is his lack of muscle definition.
With all the chance to hit the gym whilst being injured so often, he appears podgy from neck to toe. And is too old for puppy fat.
Looked more like a footballer 2-3 years ago.
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
You'll find out in 5 years
Looks like a bust doesn't it
Conca is on the fringe of the 22 for mine
Less rubbish than grigg
Hopefully he has a big season to support vlastuin and C Ellis
One of the things I don't get about Conca is his lack of muscle definition.
With all the chance to hit the gym whilst being injured so often, he appears podgy from neck to toe. And is too old for puppy fat.
Looked more like a footballer 2-3 years ago.
We picked Conca ahead of Heppel, it isnt Concas fault so look to our selectors once again.
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could we have done better?
is this kid the 6th best in re draft pool?
You'll find out in 5 years
Looks like a bust doesn't it
Conca is on the fringe of the 22 for mine
Less rubbish than grigg
Hopefully he has a big season to support vlastuin and C Ellis
One of the things I don't get about Conca is his lack of muscle definition.
With all the chance to hit the gym whilst being injured so often, he appears podgy from neck to toe. And is too old for puppy fat.
Looked more like a footballer 2-3 years ago.
We picked Conca ahead of Heppel, it isnt Concas fault so look to our selectors once again.
Yep it's our selectors fault he isn't nutritionally disciplined and belts blokes in the back of the head.
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a point conveniently missed
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a point conveniently missed
You can't turn a potatoe into a mango
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Was still a baffling selection with Heppell & Prestia still there....and not even in hindsight....nearly everybody was thinking "wtf?" even before the draft, when the word got out that we were going to pick him at 6....
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Just need to FHO as soon as legally possible
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Benny Hill career
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Benny Hill career
I hope he dies in less sad circumstances
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
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This is the year for Conca, will have a break out year and leap ahead of Heppel
Bookmark this
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This is the year for Conca, will have a break out year and leap ahead of Heppel
Bookmark this
Noted Big Man.
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This is the year for Conca, will have a break out year and leap ahead of Heppel
Bookmark this
Bookmarked. :thumbsup :snidegrin
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Ha! Interesting reading when you go back.
Reading the words "skill and poise" to describe Reece is even more interesting.
The summation of draft picks on page 21 wasn't bad either. :shh
(Only mucking around people :thumbsup)
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Well i have always backed Reece in but he is no Heppel. If he can remain injury free he is best 18 for sure, my opinion of course.
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Reece I don't think has much skill or poise,what he does have is lots of grunt.
Not sure whether grunt can cover the fact that he turns the ball over with abandon ,and makes horrible decisions during the course of a game
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I know what its like always looking at a certain players faults, I did it constantly with turn over bad decision maker Newman. Don't under play what he does well as all players turn the ball over in game.
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Ha! Interesting reading when you go back.
Reading the words "skill and poise" to describe Reece is even more interesting.
The summation of draft picks on page 21 wasn't bad either. :shh
(Only mucking around people :thumbsup)
Interesting id say hilarious. Credit to ya on Conca. You could hardly make an earlier call and be right. In fact you were pretty spot on on most players from that period.
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
Some of the boofheads should also go through the Riewoldt thread as well
You know who you are
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Conca. Lol
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Conca did some good things early on
If he was not fat as injury riddled he may he produce more good football. He still may
Heppel goes alright for a lesbian
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
Do your worst mat and point them out. I have repeatedly said i stand by every comment i have made about alex.
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
Some of the boofheads should also go through the Riewoldt thread as well
You know who you are
OH BOO HOO I think we have hit a nerve with little chucky. Lets do the riewoldt thread as well.
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Hope he gets a good run at it. Then some might change their minds..
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I find it wierd that some players almost reach "superstar " status while they are recovering from long term injuries - like Cogs and Grimes .....whereas Conca who barely kicked a ball in anger last year , has become the resident whipping boy .
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Come on man, cogs was a jet
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Come on man, cogs was a jet
Cogs was a fine player on the park , off it he was a triple AA.
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Conca did some good things early on
Juniors ? ??
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
Do your worst mat and point them out. I have repeatedly said i stand by every comment i have made about alex.
Just because you stand by them doesn't mean you were right
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
Yep - while you are at it you should go through the Alex Rance thread too. Definitely some embarrassing comments there made by the experts ( You ) . ::)
Do your worst mat and point them out. I have repeatedly said i stand by every comment i have made about alex.
Just because you stand by them doesn't mean you were right
It doesnt mean i was wrong either. Funny that, i dont see anyone bringing up all those posts from that thread where i was supposed to be so wrong. There must be hundreds of them that were way of the mark.
Either way i really dont care, unlike many on here im happy with my convictions and what i have said right or wrong on most topics.
I can be happy and confident because over the years i have got far more right than i have got wrong imo of course.
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
This q looks silly Gaff and Polec win easy.
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
This q looks silly Gaff and Polec win easy.
Gaff Conca Polec in that order.
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
This q looks silly Gaff and Polec win easy.
Gaff Conca Polec in that order.
Polec is better than Concs, I reckon. Port missed him this year. We wouldn't miss Conca.
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Gaff is a rich mans grigg
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
This q looks silly Gaff and Polec win easy.
Gaff Conca Polec in that order.
Polec is better than Concs, I reckon. Port missed him this year. We wouldn't miss Conca.
I don't and I say we missed Conca this year. My opinion of course.
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No conca no party
Or hugs
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Conca is shyte.
/thread
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But is he more Shyte or less Shyte than the 15th to 44th options?
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Polec is good mates with Whitey these days
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Speculating who do people think will be the better long term player - Conca, Gaff or Polec?
This q looks silly Gaff and Polec win easy.
Gaff Conca Polec in that order.
Polec is better than Concs, I reckon. Port missed him this year. We wouldn't miss Conca.
I don't and I say we missed Conca this year. My opinion of course.
Fair enough.
I can see the good things Conca does. He cracks in and he looks good in traffic at times. Problem is that he seems to undo those good things with sloppy disposal. Shocking kicking action.
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Polec is good mates with Whitey these days
Seem Polec's girlfriend she is a stunner, family friend and used to coach her in basketball.
They are both really nice kids. Yep, showing my age there as she is a friend of my daughter lol
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
we have some excellent running defenders in newman deledio conca and batchelor.
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Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
we have some excellent running defenders in newman deledio conca and batchelor.
That is just too funny
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;D
Had a little stroll through this thread nd im laughing my arse of at some posters. They have talked this bloke up especially his first few years and bagged the crap out of Heppell. I dont need to mention names but they know who they are and they have shown they have nfi.
we have some excellent running defenders in newman deledio conca and batchelor.
That is just too funny
Just to be clear on the exact definition of excellent:-
'Something or someone of exceptional or high quality'
http://www.yourdictionary.com/excellent
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Reece conquers injury woes
richmondfc.com.au
February 11, 2016
* I’ve just got to take the positives out of last year. Obviously, it was pretty disappointing and frustrating, but I’ve learned a lot about myself and the way that I want to play my football.
* Physically, I’m in the best shape I’ve ever been right now. I’ve really developed, not only as a player, but as a person. So, I think that’ll hold me in good stead going forward. I’m still only 23. I think my best footy’s still ahead of me, which is good. Fingers crossed I can stay healthy and really contribute to Richmond going forward.
* Conca is on a modified training program to help him avoid the hamstring problems that plagued him last year, and he’s seeing clear benefits from it, in the gym, as well as out on the track. "My strength in the gym’s improved out of sight and my running’s improved. A lot of it’s just more monitoring it now, more of a maintenance thing."
* I’ll play next week (against Freo at Mandurah on Friday week on Feb. 19). So, it’ll be good to get home, get a bit of match fitness in, and shake out a few cobwebs, because I haven’t played too much footy over the last 12-16 months. I’m really looking forward to it.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-02-11/reece-conquers-injury-woes
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Lol
All the personality of software
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"Physically I'm the best shape I've ever been in right now"
Must have laid off the KFC for a month
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"Physically I'm the best shape I've ever been in right now"
Must have laid off the KFC for a month
Changed over to Subway
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* I’ve really developed, not only as a player, but as a person. :sleep :snidegrin
Of course you have, you lingual handicapper
So, I think that’ll hold me in good stead going forward.
Stead. stuff off u dumb prick
I’m still only 23. I think my best footy’s still ahead of me.
Yeh, nobody else does. We all think youre just another rich,kind failure who gets a load of cash and a free ride on the dimmer train.
FO !
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Think you are being incredibly harsh on the bloke - but hey let's blame him for everything that went wrong last year.
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* I’ve really developed, not only as a player, but as a person. :sleep :snidegrin
Of course you have, you lingual handicapper
So, I think that’ll hold me in good stead going forward.
Stead. stuff off u dumb prick
I’m still only 23. I think my best footy’s still ahead of me.
Yeh, nobody else does. We all think youre just another rich,kind failure who gets a load of cash and a free ride on the dimmer train.
FO !
I do. Conca can play very good footy but i will say due to injury etc, we haven't seen enough but I'm a fan of his ability when fully fit. Easy starting 18 for mine.
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I don't remember this kind of vitriol over Conca coming out of peoples mouths at the end of the 2014 season .
I didn't appreciate his dog act against the GWS player but over all his performance was acceptable.
Now after a year that was destroyed by hamstring injuries ( even Richo had them ) people are acting like he is stinking up the joint.
I thought he played above what could be expected against Hawthorn.
The following week against Adelaide he was useless ( but not Robinson Crusoe there)
The final - he kicked a goal , he conceded a goal through bad skill while we were rolling the dice.
I understand he is at the crossroads but I'm looking forward to what a fit Reece can do this year .
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If you take out the one massive clanger, he was actually pretty good when he came on in the EF and I say that as someone who's never been a fan of the bloke. Of course the reality is you can't take out that one massive clanger and that's the problem.
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If you take out the one massive clanger, he was actually pretty good when he came on in the EF and I say that as someone who's never been a fan of the bloke. Of course the reality is you can't take out that one massive clanger and that's the problem.
However you can put it in company and context with the other clangers;
Chaplin's submitting to Nahas
Griffiths missed goals
Lids gone missing
Cotch's shocker
Edwards disappearing act
and to add some substance a good old etc etc
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Don't get me started on the umpires Clanger with 7 minutes to go
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Think you are being incredibly harsh on the bloke - but hey let's blame him for everything that went wrong last year.
Typical Gen Y comment.
Suppose it's not his fault he has been overweight and skin folds horrific for the past 24 months too.
Nah let's blame the hamburglar
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If you take out the one massive clanger, he was actually pretty good when he came on in the EF and I say that as someone who's never been a fan of the bloke. Of course the reality is you can't take out that one massive clanger and that's the problem.
Oh, u mean the one where he didn't break down in the first 5 minutes.
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I have bagged this bloke as much as anyone. Still maintain hes not a midfielders hole. Interesting to note though they have finally played him off h/b although its just a meaningless praccie game. Its a role i think hes suited to. I have maintained he could possibly become a decent player with the play in front of him. Maybe we could send him back permanently to free Vlastuin up for a midfield role, now he is a bloke who has too much talent to stay stuck in the backline.We are still chasing big bodied mids aren't we.
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Think you are being incredibly harsh on the bloke - but hey let's blame him for everything that went wrong last year.
Typical Gen Y comment.
Suppose it's not his fault he has been overweight and skin folds horrific for the past 24 months too.
Nah let's blame the hamburglar
Not a Gen Y comment but it's definitely a sarcastic comment.
mat073 - proud Gen Xer
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Think you are being incredibly harsh on the bloke - but hey let's blame him for everything that went wrong last year.
Typical Gen Y comment.
Suppose it's not his fault he has been overweight and skin folds horrific for the past 24 months too.
Nah let's blame the hamburglar
Not a Gen Y comment but it's definitely a sarcastic comment.
mat073 - proud Gen Xer
Well, you've gone up a notch in my respect.
Gen X - the best
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
Conca has a massive year ahead of him.
If we can turn into that gun midfielder we hoped, we will go along way this year.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
"Remember that one time in band camp we saw the sun shine on a black dog's arse...."
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What is he? 23? 24?
If he doesn't make it this year he will never make it.
Last chance saloon.
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He'll make it.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
Dunno why I remember this but Danny Meyer played a good game for us down at Kardinia Park circa 2006. 20 odd disposals and a heap of tackles.
so did Chris Hyde with 4 goals.
Think we won by 4 goals.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
Dunno why I remember this but Danny Meyer played a good game for us down at Kardinia Park circa 2006. 20 odd disposals and a heap of tackles.
so did Chris Hyde with 4 goals.
Think we won by 4 goals.
I remember watching Dan Conners first game ( against Geelong) and I thought we had found our next superstar.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
Dunno why I remember this but Danny Meyer played a good game for us down at Kardinia Park circa 2006. 20 odd disposals and a heap of tackles.
so did Chris Hyde with 4 goals.
Think we won by 4 goals.
I remember watching Dan Conners first game ( against Geelong) and I thought we had found our next superstar.
That guy could play.
So could Dragacevic. Reckon he could have been elite
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
"Remember that one time in band camp we saw the sun shine on a black dog's arse...."
Classic! just pointing out to the guys on here with blinkers on that yes, he can play very good footy and has done on many occasions. Its ok to say you are too harsh on him :snidegrin
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He'll make it.
In a Chris newman way
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I remember when Ben Nason showed heart in the wet against port. important player for us he was..
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He'll make it.
In a Chris newman way
Give Conca number 1. It's slimming
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
Pathetic response but completely your prerogative to do so.
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
Pathetic response but completely your prerogative to do so.
He's on the money. Your attempting to salvage some pride for a silly comment. Too late.
Then you say he's played very good on multiple occasions :huh
If and when Conca starts playing up to standard then that's great. Til then....
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Watched the replay of Tigers vs Eagles from 2 years ago, Conca played a great game that night in the wet. Very important player for us this year.
LM stuffen ass off at 2 years ago he played a good game in the wet.
stuffn fat little lazy pig.
If u don't do consistency when you're young, you never do
Pathetic response but completely your prerogative to do so.
He's on the money. Your attempting to salvage some pride for a silly comment. Too late.
Then you say he's played very good on multiple occasions :huh
If and when Conca starts playing up to standard so be it. Til then....
Cheers for that Dooks. We all have opinions on what we see and who has ability and like i said, i believe Conca has what it takes and has shown it during his career at times. Yes he needs to show more but he is not as poor as some are making him out to be. FYI I dont need to salvage any pride as I don't believe my comments to be silly, well not as silly as some ;)
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
(http://s18.postimg.org/52qo96uav/conca.gif)
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Pros: Moves well, goes in hard.
Cons: Can't kick, undisciplined.
On balance you've got yourself an average footballer.
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
(http://s18.postimg.org/52qo96uav/conca.gif)
He probably kicked it the wrong way.
He can thank Martin for creating the pressure for him to sneak through....and turn it over. Lmao
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
(http://s18.postimg.org/52qo96uav/conca.gif)
Got 2 Brownlow votes in that game too I believe.
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How many did he get for the year?
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How many did he get for the year?
Yep nuffies hanging their hats on a couple of highlights.I cant wait for the hasnt had a preseason excuses to start circulating again hhhhaaarrrgggghhhh.
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How many did he get for the year?
Yep nuffies hanging their hats on a couple of highlights.I cant wait for the hasnt had a preseason excuses to start circulating again hhhhaaarrrgggghhhh.
Given your recent predictions and assessments of certain players - Reece can look forward to certain AA honours this coming season.
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How many did he get for the year?
Yep nuffies hanging their hats on a couple of highlights.I cant wait for the hasnt had a preseason excuses to start circulating again hhhhaaarrrgggghhhh.
Given your recent predictions and assessments of certain players - Reece can look forward to certain AA honours this coming season.
PPPffftttt you would not know a footballer if you fell over one.What recent predictions and assesments.Surely not McIntosh i love him as a player, i have just voiced an opinion on what he needs to do better at. But hey some of us dont give a stuff what nuffies like you think we have the guts to voice the negatives along with the positives..
Are you talking about Rance sheesh the bastard still falls over ad nauseum.Yep has become a great player but even now is poor in areas.
You can bank it Conca is average at best.But of course as soon as he has a 25 possesion game with good disposal and wins a bit of ball you will be here proclaiming him a good player. But of course the likes of you are happy with just the odd good game it forgives all else. Yep you wallow in mediocrity.
You know what the bastard owes us, he had damn well better improve it should not be hard once he has had a FULL PRESEASON LOL.but in the mean time i wont be holding my breath.
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You been on the drink Craw?
Seems like an extra bit of rambling tonight
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You been on the drink Craw?
Seems like an extra bit of rambling tonight
Na just a little cantankerous.
Ya know if we looked like atop 4 side i could live with the stupidity same goes for if we had actually achieved something in the last 6 years. Supporters keep talkin them up without substance.There is no runs on the board and until the playing group do something of significance they can all get stuffed.
I have said this a few times. i have been posting on various boards now for close on 20 yrs and at no stage have rfc teams done enough to shut me up. I dont see it happening in the near future either.
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what would shut you up? a bullet?
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True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
Great vision. I love his movement in congestion. Excellent in tight situations.
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How many did he get for the year?
Yep nuffies hanging their hats on a couple of highlights.I cant wait for the hasnt had a preseason excuses to start circulating again hhhhaaarrrgggghhhh.
Given your recent predictions and assessments of certain players - Reece can look forward to certain AA honours this coming season.
PPPffftttt you would not know a footballer if you fell over one.What recent predictions and assesments Richmond will finish 14th in 2015. .Surely not McIntosh i love him as a player, i have just voiced an opinion on what he needs to do better at. But hey some of us dont give a stuff what nuffies like you think we have the guts to voice the negatives along with the positives..
Are you talking about Rance sheesh the bastard still falls over ad nauseum.Yep has become a great player but even now is poor in areas.
You can bank it Conca is average at best.But of course as soon as he has a 25 possesion game with good disposal and wins a bit of ball you will be here proclaiming him a good player. But of course the likes of you are happy with just the odd good game it forgives all else. Yep you wallow in mediocrity.
You know what the bastard owes us, he had damn well better improve it should not be hard once he has had a FULL PRESEASON LOL.but in the mean time i wont be holding my breath.
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How many did he get for the year?
Two
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How many did he get for the year?
Two
LOL.
Oh just for you mat i think we can finish as low as 14th again this yr in fact that can be my prediction. There ya go hang ya hat on that one as well lol.
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Vlastuin has only managed 1 Brownlow vote in his entire career yet he is golden ( for good reason too)
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How many did he get for the year?
Two
LOL.
Oh just for you mat i think we can finish as low as 14th again this yr in fact that can be my prediction. There ya go hang ya hat on that one as well lol.
I'm just looking forward to when we are 2-9 this year so you can finally say I told you so.
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How many did he get for the year?
Two
stuffn fat piece of poo.
He's a dud person and an even more stupid player.
Runs around like an imbecile.
Watch him do nothing this year AGAIN.
Look forward to discussing him end 2016.
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Can't believe we are still debating whether or not this kid is a good player or not.
He's probably played a handful of very good games for us. Everything after that is either average or pure garbage.
We should have traded him after 2014 when he had any currency at all. As things stand now I'd doubt we'd get anything decent for him really, so may as well see how 2016 works out (I predict he will suck/injure himself) and if he doesn't come good then just trade him for a low selection of picks to get draft points...
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Probably going to need a fair a few draft points for Lambert & Naish too. :shh
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Does anyone remember that kick he did in the Elimination Final where, under absolute zero pressure, all he had to do was kick the ball 25m to another free Richmond player (or at least kick it to his advantage) and he managed (of course) to kick it to the advantage of the nearest north player?
Poowalf player
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Does anyone remember that kick he did in the Elimination Final where, under absolute zero pressure, all he had to do was kick the ball 25m to another free Richmond player (or at least kick it to his advantage) and he managed (of course) to kick it to the advantage of the nearest north player?
Poowalf player
Every day...
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Vlastuin has only managed 1 Brownlow vote in his entire career yet he is golden ( for good reason too)
Better make him captain then
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Benny Hill type player
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Our best player tonight.
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Not even close to it.
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>>> grigg
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Hmmmmmmm ...
Why didn't he have a whole game in the midfield?
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Hmmmmmmm ...
Why didn't he have a whole game in the midfield?
Hardwick is now listening to claw and playing him off a hbf.....
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Our best player tonight.
Played solid as did Grigg. Lade said he liked what Chaplin did last night :o Is it just me or was he very ordinary? A player with his experience should not drop 5 easy marks and fumble constantly giving up easy ball. Not a fan :thumbsdown
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Our best player tonight.
. Lade said he liked what Chaplin did last night
...and fair enough too... kicked goals for us and beautifully set 'em up for them.... a genuine hundred metre player....
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Conca has shown some good signs in te hb, creating role
And some brain farts too
I would back him to keep improving. Better than hunt or bachelor
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Conca has shown some good signs in te hb, creating role
And some brain farts too
I would back him to keep improving. Better than hunt or bachelor
Played well and yes had a few clangers but did a lot a great work on the HB. :clapping
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Was shyte again.... ..trade him to the Western Force....better suited to playing a football code where you just have to run & tackle...
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Was very good taday
Just watching the replay now
But from being at the game he was very good
Houli was excellent
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Was shyte again.... ..trade him to the Western Force....better suited to playing a football code where you just have to run & tackle...
Brain farts a plenty and followed through a couple of times too when he shat his cap.
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the usual folk getting fooled by this blokes pre season training the house down form.
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Was very good taday
Just watching the replay now
But from being at the game he was very good
Houli was excellent
Watch the replay WP, four of Houli's kicks went straight to Hawthorns advantage.
Good solid game but his kicking was rusty.
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Was very good taday
Just watching the replay now
But from being at the game he was very good
Houli was excellent
Watch the replay WP, four of Houli's kicks went straight to Hawthorns advantage.
Good solid game but his kicking was rusty.
Houli was very good but like all players, he missed the target a few times. If he plays at that level all year we should be happy.
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Conca's kicking was horrible! He butchers the football.
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Conca's kicking was horrible! He butchers the football.
For those playing at home, Conca's disposal efficiency yesterday was just 66%, the third lowest in the team. Take out the handball and kicking efficiency was around 50% :thumbsdown
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Haters gonna hate.
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He'll be there round 1.
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Houli was very good but like all players, he missed the target a few times. If he plays at that level all year we should be happy.
Not disputing he missed targets, all of them did
Just reckon for his first game he was very very good
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Houli and Conca both looked fitter and leaner than they have ever been. I thought Houli in particular was impressive. Yes, his kicking was a little rusty, but it's February!
He might be a poor defender one on one but he is there for his rebound. With Yarran fit and rebounding too we will have some potent run off half back!
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Conca's kicking was horrible! He butchers the football.
For those playing at home, Conca's disposal efficiency yesterday was just 66%, the third lowest in the team. Take out the handball and kicking efficiency was around 50% :thumbsdown
Played on Hill and Puopolo when they went forward and gave them a bath. Don't just bag the guy for the sake of it, watch the game closely and open up your mind to allow his good play sink in :thumbsup
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The problem is his brain farts are so bad that I forget all the good stuff he did.
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But the senior guys like Grigg, Chaplin, Houli are pretty good at them too
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l love how B Ellis is receiving praise but one simply needs to look at him being pressured on the boundary by a coup,e of Hawks..He turned around and handball ex it straight to one of them resulting in their first goal.
This typifies his stupidity
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Conca's kicking was horrible! He butchers the football.
For those playing at home, Conca's disposal efficiency yesterday was just 66%, the third lowest in the team. Take out the handball and kicking efficiency was around 50% :thumbsdown
Don't just bag the guy for the sake of it, watch the game closely and open up your mind to allow his good play sink in :thumbsup
Ummm......right. So the counter argument is not that he does specific things right, and not that he doesn't do a lot of things wrong, but that people should generally open their minds and watch closer.
Why do i feel like im being sold a vacuum cleaner at my front door?
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I'm interested in who can step up and take his place.
That's about it
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I'm interested in who can step up and take his place.
That's about it
Ricky May? weekend at Bernies style?
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He is simply a very stupid footballer. He can get the ball no doubt. The odds of him actually then doing something useful are about the same as Phar Lap winning the next Melbourne Cup. And he never seems to get any better.
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l love how B Ellis is receiving praise but one simply needs to look at him being pressured on the boundary by a coup,e of Hawks..He turned around and handball ex it straight to one of them resulting in their first goal.
This typifies his stupidity
Yes but wasn't that move to do with the oob trial?
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He is simply a very stupid footballer. He can get the ball no doubt. The odds of him actually then doing something useful are about the same as Phar Lap winning the next Melbourne Cup. And he never seems to get any better.
On the weekends game he made two mistakes Houli made four yet I see no criticism of Houli.
Reece was a good contributor as was Houli, some times if we just focus on the negatives we block out the positives we end up with a jaundiced view of the player.
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Yep.
If conca was a Muslim it'd be a bit different
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He is simply a very stupid footballer. He can get the ball no doubt. The odds of him actually then doing something useful are about the same as Phar Lap winning the next Melbourne Cup. And he never seems to get any better.
On the weekends game he made two mistakes Houli made four yet I see no criticism of Houli.
Reece was a good contributor as was Houli, some times if we just focus on the negatives we block out the positives we end up with a jaundiced view of the player.
:clapping
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l love how B Ellis is receiving praise but one simply needs to look at him being pressured on the boundary by a coup,e of Hawks..He turned around and handball ex it straight to one of them resulting in their first goal.
This typifies his stupidity
How bloody poor was he on numerous occasions. Continues to poo his pants at the first sign of pressure.How long are they going to let him get away with this sort of crap.
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until he retires
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Hmmmmmmm ...
Why didn't he have a whole game in the midfield?
Hardwick is now listening to claw and playing him off a hbf.....
Looks more likely back there.Like every one i have been highly critical of him but i would like to see how he goes playing off h/b this year. Its his best chance imo of giving something back to the club.
On his k/e% its not his kicking as such but his decision making imo.
Definately last chance hotel in saying that like others i would have liked to see what we could have got for him at trade last year.
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he will be a long term, very good footballer.
I scratch my head wondering what some people look for in kids.
I dont like to post this way because all context is lost and players either improve or fail, changing opinions of them as we go. But hey sometimes you just have to stoop down to others levels and give em some of their own medicine..
The above is golden. But wait there is plenty more.
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lol
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how smooth is this kid in traffic?
Then theres this Alison talking about imaginary attributes.
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
Then theres this doozy HHHAAARRRGGGGHHHHH.
5 yrs later and we are still waiting.
Thats enough i need to get out of the sewer it stinks in here
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He is actually good in traffic. It's his kicking that let's him down.
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
(http://s18.postimg.org/52qo96uav/conca.gif)
how smooth is this kid in traffic?
Then theres this Alison talking about imaginary attributes.
This is pretty "smooth " Claw. :rollin :lol
Your eyes are not deceiving you.
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
Then theres this doozy HHHAAARRRGGGGHHHHH.
5 yrs later and we are still waiting.
Thats enough i need to get out of the sewer it stinks in here
Graham Polak wasn't too good in traffic
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watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
Then theres this doozy HHHAAARRRGGGGHHHHH.
5 yrs later and we are still waiting.
Thats enough i need to get out of the sewer it stinks in here
Graham Polak wasn't too good in traffic
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Also think concs is good in traffic
Maybe , if he had a better injury run things might have gone different
maybe he will still come good. Looks pretty handy in te behind th ball role.
Pretty funny seeing Sherlock claw on the case
watch him closely in traffic Daniel.
he has balance and poise, more than i have seen in a first year player for a long time. he seems to have time where he shouldnt have. those deft little movements that create enough time and a cool head are not things that can be taught.
he may not be overly quick but he is a natural footballer and this will overcome any lack of pace. examples of this that come to mind are paul broderick and greg williams.
if he was bigger/stronger and quicker he would possibly be once in a lifetime player, as it is he will be a very good footballer. I just hope he doesnt go home to WA to realise his potential
Then theres this doozy HHHAAARRRGGGGHHHHH.
5 yrs later and we are still waiting.
Thats enough i need to get out of the sewer it stinks in here
Graham Polak wasn't too good in traffic
:clapping
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Apparently Conca has been training more across half-back this preseason.
This is looking like Reece's first full preseason. So, barring another injury, we'll see if that make any difference this year.
No doubt it's a massive season coming up for him MT. Don't think he'll ever be a star but I'm confident Reece will make a strong contribution this season. He's a good link player, smart with the footy who's happy to get his hands dirty. Can't have too many of those.
True Magic.
Btw, my favourite clip of Reece is him nutmeging two Geelong players:
(http://s18.postimg.org/52qo96uav/conca.gif)
how smooth is this kid in traffic?
Then theres this Alison talking about imaginary attributes.
This is pretty "smooth " Claw. :rollin :lol
Your eyes are not deceiving you.
Na most of the time he has no awareness and runs himself into trouble. He actually has a bit of space to work with there.
Its a bit like the wow he had a good game so he must be good analogy's.He has one little golden moment and wow he must be good in traffic lol.
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I think the bitching and complaining about Conca is the football equivalent of a first world problem.
Is he as good as Heppell - probably not.
Is this a calamitous selection similar to selecting Tambling at 4 and Oakley Nichols at 8 - Definitely not.
We may of paid overs , but I still believe Reece has some upside and is comfortably in our top 22.
Has he even done a full pre season before ?
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He's nothing more tha Tambling, Mat
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He is better than Heppel this year
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I think the bitching and complaining about Conca is the football equivalent of a first world problem.
Is he as good as Heppell - probably not.
Is this a calamitous selection similar to selecting Tambling at 4 and Oakley Nichols at 8 - Definitely not.
We may of paid overs , but I still believe Reece has some upside and is comfortably in our top 22.
Has he even done a full pre season before ?
OH DEAR OH DEAR OH DEAR.
Is he as good as Heppell - definately not, why try and sugar coat it..
Is it a calamitous selection similar to Tambling at 4 and Jon at 8 - Time will tell he could well slip backwards. So its got to the point where we are talking degrees of failure. 6 yrs in regardless of where he was taken the debate STILL rages about weather he is a so so to good player or not.Personally when all things are considered i think hes been okay.
We may have paid overs - no that is just a nice way of saying it. We definately paid overs. So far he has shown himself not to be a worthy top 6 pick. I think nearly everyone has at the least rated him an okay player so far,
Is he in the top 22 I'm sure you will get plenty of debates around here on that. Based on stats form consistency injuries the whole lot that imo is debatable.
Has he ever done a preseason - And the excuses continue.
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I think the bitching and complaining about Conca is the football equivalent of a first world problem.
You could argue that anything to do with any afl player on the field is a first world problem.
Meaningless statement on a football forum apart from discouraging robust debate.
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I think the bitching and complaining about Conca is the football equivalent of a first world problem.
You could argue that anything to do with any afl player on the field is a first world problem.
Meaningless statement on a football forum.
Since when is constructive criticism and discussion a bad thing?
I think he means, at least conca is still pretty good
and not totally rubbish
at least he recovered with this gold:
Is he as good as Heppell - probably not.
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Hang on, before we re-hash the Conca Vs Heppell debate, to even up the contest Conca deserves to have a year on the PED's!
Heppell has been 'enhanced', Conca hasn't! :snidegrin
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
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I think the bitching and complaining about Conca is the football equivalent of a first world problem.
You could argue that anything to do with any afl player on the field is a first world problem.
Meaningless statement on a football forum.
Since when is constructive criticism and discussion a bad thing?
I think he means, at least conca is still pretty good
and not totally rubbish
at least he recovered with this gold:
Is he as good as Heppell - probably not.
Probably not means possibly so. Ridiculous
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I think if you are unsure whether you would prefer to see Grigg or Conca in the side you know that the kid has a long way to go and as a pick 6 and after 5 years things are not looking great.
I really hope he can turn things around as he seems like a really great "Richmond person"
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I think if you are unsure whether you would prefer to see Grigg or Conca in the side you know that the kid has a long way to go and as a pick 6 and after 5 years things are not looking great.
I really hope he can turn things around as he seems like a really great "Richmond person"
Either that
Or the unsure person in question has the iq of a doorknob
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i take it you are unsure stalin
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I think if you are unsure whether you would prefer to see Grigg or Conca in the side you know that the kid has a long way to go and as a pick 6 and after 5 years things are not looking great.
I really hope he can turn things around as he seems like a really great "Richmond person"
Either that
Or the unsure person in question has the iq of a doorknob
Your right what is that person thinking. It really is a no brainer Grigg has easily out performed Conca to date.
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Hmmmmmmm ...
Why didn't he have a whole game in the midfield?
Hardwick is now listening to claw and playing him off a hbf.....
Looks more likely back there.Like every one i have been highly critical of him but i would like to see how he goes playing off h/b this year. Its his best chance imo of giving something back to the club.
On his k/e% its not his kicking as such but his decision making imo.
Definately last chance hotel in saying that like others i would have liked to see what we could have got for him at trade last year.
Sorry Clawski I disagree. It's definitely his kicking not his decision making.
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I think if you are unsure whether you would prefer to see Grigg or Conca in the side you know that the kid has a long way to go and as a pick 6 and after 5 years things are not looking great.
I really hope he can turn things around as he seems like a really great "Richmond person"
Either that
Or the unsure person in question has the iq of a doorknob
I sometimes think, based on other Richmond supporters I know that the average Tiger fan is relatively intelligent. But then one realises half of our fans are naturally below this average.
The type of people that go to the zoo and expect the animals to do circus tricks to entertain them.
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His problem is his brain.
It's mostly fat tissue.
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Conca as a hbf? Hmm, I'm not convinced. I don't think it is the right role for him.
I'd rather see Conca be given a lock-down role deep in defence, I see him as a back pocket stopper rather than a rebounding flanker. Given the chance to apply himself to beating his opponent one on one I think his natural grit & competitiveness will come out. I just don't think he is up to the role of the tear-away HB who will rebound & then set us up to go forward with a precise & intelligent disposal.
I see Conca as a natural at the bottom of the pack throwing his body over live grenades, so lets give him a role that suits that mindset. When he is expected to run & carry the doubts get into his mind & he turns it over - as we have all seen! Leave the pretty stuff to the Yarran's & Houli's of this world & let Reece smash into bodies, tackle like a bear & concentrate solely on dominating & intimidating his direct opponent. I reckon he will develop a taste for that instead of trying to be a pretty, classical footballer dashing off the HB line ... He's not a dasher, he's a smasher!
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Smasher? No, he is a gasher.
Illdisciplined. Our very own hamburglar in shorts.
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It's like, if u buy a poo car and it just gets worse after every tuneup, FIO!
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It's like, if u buy a poo car and it just gets worse after every tuneup, FIO!
Sugar in the tank til it's almost not running. Brake fluid across the bonnet at 10 to 12 and then straight off a cliff.
Beers and cigars afterwards.
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I think Conca will be very serviceable this year. My gut tells me his gut has slimmed down a bit and he will be able to run out matches and provide the grunt/contested ground ball gets our team lacks at times.
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The grunt that is lacked is attributed to conca under achieving in the first place.
The team lack it because of him so he can he be a solution when he's the problem ?
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Reece looks as fit as he has ever been.
He has always provided grunt.
His problem is more of being able to hit targets on a consistent basis. He has had very little continuity in his football for 2 years so his confidence is still down which may have exacerbated this problem.
He owes the club big time. He needs to perform.
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Can anyone tell me what they really think of Conca. Even since he king hit that opposition player, I don't care much for watching him any more, so I kind of ignore everything he does.
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but it's a long thread and too much to read it all.
Is he an asset to Richmond or not?
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Can anyone tell me what they really think of Conca. Even since he king hit that opposition player, I don't care much for watching him any more, so I kind of ignore everything he does.
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but it's a long thread and too much to read it all.
Is he an asset to Richmond or not?
I am sure Big Tone won't me pointing you to his posts on this thread. Imo they are all pretty much spot on.
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Can anyone tell me what they really think of Conca. Even since he king hit that opposition player, I don't care much for watching him any more, so I kind of ignore everything he does.
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but it's a long thread and too much to read it all.
Is he an asset to Richmond or not?
King hit now that is an overstatement.
The gutless GWS player ran away Conca just ran after an tried to elbow him in the back and ended up hitting him in the neck.
Got two weeks for it end of story.
You would have preferred him to hold hands and sing Kum-by-ah?
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Can anyone tell me what they really think of Conca. Even since he king hit that opposition player, I don't care much for watching him any more, so I kind of ignore everything he does.
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but it's a long thread and too much to read it all.
Is he an asset to Richmond or not?
King hit now that is an overstatement.
The gutless GWS player ran away Conca just ran after an tried to elbow him in the back and ended up hitting him in the neck.
Got two weeks for it end of story.
You would have preferred him to hold hands and sing Kum-by-ah?
Only issue I had with it was he didnt hit the stuff wit hard enough
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Pros: Good evasion, hard at it, decent extractor, capable of very good passes by foot.
Cons: Undisciplined, inconsistent and overall a poor kick, poor handballer - overhits, not a clean, one-touch player, below par decision maker, error prone, lacks composure, doesn't play percentages, misses tackles, despite the steal for the goal in the EF, he more often than not loses crucial one on one contests, gets into poor positions, loses his feet, not a particularly good mark.
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Pros: Good evasion, hard at it, decent extractor, capable of very good passes by foot.
Cons: Undisciplined, inconsistent and overall a poor kick, poor handballer - overhits, not a clean, one-touch player, below par decision maker, error prone, lacks composure, doesn't play percentages, misses tackles, despite the steal for the goal in the EF, he more often than not loses crucial one on one contests, gets into poor positions, loses his feet, not a particularly good mark.
Pretty much what I've been reading on here and other places as when.
Just wanted to hear it up front.
Basically, missing nuthin.
Cheers mate.
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Pros: Good evasion, hard at it, decent extractor, capable of very good passes by foot.
Cons: Undisciplined, inconsistent and overall a poor kick, poor handballer - overhits, not a clean, one-touch player, below par decision maker, error prone, lacks composure, doesn't play percentages, misses tackles, despite the steal for the goal in the EF, he more often than not loses crucial one on one contests, gets into poor positions, loses his feet, not a particularly good mark.
Pretty much what I've been reading on here and other places as when.
Just wanted to hear it up front.
Basically, missing nuthin.
Cheers mate.
geez are you a sheep or what
go and watch the replay of Conca's game against the Hawks last year, pretty plain to see why they wanted him in the final side
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Do you think perhaps in that match he mainly played to the strengths I mentioned? He's probably had a handful of good matches, but yes you keep telling us how they cancel out the far more frequent average & sub-par performances he's served up....
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Do you think perhaps in that match he played to the strengths I mentioned? He's probably had a handful of good matches, but yes you keep telling us how they cancel out the far more frequent average & sub-par performances he's served up....
meant to quote the other poster not you
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Do you think perhaps in that match he played to the strengths I mentioned? He's probably had a handful of good matches, but yes you keep telling us how they cancel out the far more frequent average & sub-par performances he's served up....
meant to quote the other poster not you
Was going to say something similar, baaaart thought that was bleeting better :thumbsup
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The Conca turn over that cost us a goal in the Elimination Final ( and possibly the match) .....I thought Houli could of made a better effort in marking that ball.
http://youtu.be/7XwAL8xp-4w
5 min 35 sec .....watch and make your own decision.
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It was Concas fault we lost the match as he did stuffall in the first half. :lol :lol :lol
No in all seriousness Conca's one mistake had little bearing on the result, when North started kicking straight we were toast.
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#standbyconcs
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#concaplonka
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What's he missing?
Consistency.
Kicking ability.
A football brain.
Discipline.
Donuts
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#chicksdigdinkykicks
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I know im one a only a few who think he can play but he was looking good again tonight until..........that bloody hammy :banghead Shocking luck which could really impact his playing career moving forward.
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Blessing in disguise, bloke's a hack.
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Good riddance donut boy.
Only thing more frustrating than a nothing player given ample opportunity is the supporter mentality
that fails to see such glaring shortcomings but instead continue to pray that he will " come good".
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Goodbye hack
I never feel sorry for anyone who gets paid 300k plus for not doing much
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I'm not going to say I'm glad he is injured, but i am very relieved he won't be playing.
Cost us last night and when he was directly involved with the ball and in contests, the ball usually ended up heading the other way.
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He finally gets through a full preseason but then does another hammy in the last preseason game :P. A trip to Germany may be needed for Reece to try and fix his dodgy hammies. You can't have much of a footy career if you're continually on the sidelines injured.
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
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I never feel sorry for anyone who gets paid 300k plus for not doing much
Like Tony Abbott
Good to know
:lol :rollin :lol :rollin :jump
:sarcasm2
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
:lol
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
:lol
:lol :lol
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I'm not going to say I'm glad he is injured, but i am very relieved he won't be playing.
Cost us last night and when he was directly involved with the ball and in contests, the ball usually ended up heading the other way.
Yeah na screw the hack. When does his contract run out and that other fool Hampson who still some here say his a better tap option than maric??
FM the worst player in the AFl and his a millionaire because of our stupid club.
Would have been better off giving it to a real charity
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
If you're stupid and you know it
Clap your hands.....
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I'm not going to say I'm glad he is injured, but i am very relieved he won't be playing.
Cost us last night and when he was directly involved with the ball and in contests, the ball usually ended up heading the other way.
Yeah na screw the hack. When does his contract run out and that other fool Hampson who still some here say his a better tap option than maric??
FM the worst player in the AFl and his a millionaire because of our stupid club.
Would have been better off giving it to a real charity
Now Hampson deserves the criticism and you are correct in saying he is the worst player on any list. He cant mark, kick, handball and he even crashes into him own players trying to mark.....get the hell out of the way you massive spud! I :pray he never plays in the senior team again.
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
If your stupid and you know it
Clap your hands.....
:clapping
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I'm just waiting for Yaz to do his calf again in round 1.
It will be Dimmas fault.
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What awareness and what footskills :rollin
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Good riddance donut boy.
It's riddons :banghead
If your stupid and you know it
Clap your hands.....
:clapping
:clapping
Took my own advice, sat down watch plonka for bit, then ignored him for the rest of the game.
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The news for defender, Reece Conca wasn’t as positive with scans revealing a strain to his right hamstring.
While no surgery is required, the 23-year-old will be on the sidelines for at least eight weeks.
“It’s disappointing for Reece, he’s had a great pre-season thus far, but we’ll go through a thorough rehab process with him, and look forward to him making a contribution for us later in the season,” Richardson said.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-11/edwards-cleared-of-serious-damage-)
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Straight swap for Moribito
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waste of space
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Conca ... never going to be that player we hoped he would be.
Body breaks down to easily.
Disposal is questionable too.
Very disappointing!
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Has red hair
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The news for defender, Reece Conca wasn’t as positive with scans revealing a strain to his right hamstring.
While no surgery is required, the 23-year-old will be on the sidelines for at least eight weeks.
“It’s disappointing for Reece, he’s had a great pre-season thus far, but we’ll go through a thorough rehab process with him, and look forward to him making a contribution for us later in the season,” Richardson said.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-11/edwards-cleared-of-serious-damage-)
Back in time to injure it once more, rehab again and make surprise comeback in an elimination final
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Good something or other :cheers
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Has red hair
Chucky doll has a twinge of red.
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Has red hair
Chunky doll has a twinge of red.
Who here has red hair?
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I believe behind all perceived bad luck there is sound reasoning as is the case
With this idiot.
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divine intervention. The big man knows conca is hopeless and is best served away from from football.
Good luck big fella in your next career, as it aint as a footballer
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divine intervention. The big man knows conca is hopeless and is best served away from from football.
Good luck big fella in your next career, as it aint as a footballer
Conca career options.
(http://vilamundo.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ronald_mcdonald.jpg)
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Bump
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Bump
So are you saying he won't play a single game this year?
Don't worry, Dimma will play him later in the season.....
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Given that a strain will keep him out for 8 weeks, I'd hate to see what a tear will be worth
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Bump
So are you saying he won't play a single game this year?
Don't worry, Dimma will play him later in the season.....
Another elimination final?
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Bump
So are you saying he won't play a single game this year?
Don't worry, Dimma will play him later in the season.....
Another elimination final?
:snidegrin
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He will probably get a job on one of the many food networks on FTA.
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He can play foodball
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Fair to say he's a bust. You can't go through 5-6 years with not 1 single full preseason and expect to develop into a decent footballer. Get rid of at seasons end
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Given that a strain will keep him out for 8 weeks, I'd hate to see what a tear will be worth
Actually, a strain usually involves some degree of tear in the muscle. Eight weeks means he's most likely had partial tearing of the muscle fibres unless they are being ultra conservative but even then you'd assume there would be some degree of tearing.
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If he comes back and does it again it's getting pretty dire
Send him to Deutschland for some pig inners
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Yeah but at least Heppell won't turn it over....
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perhaps the football goes are giving us a fit grimes for a conca sacrifice
:pray
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None of you lot are real supporters
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Conca will have more possessions than Heppell this year. Bookmark it! ;D
Yeah but at least Heppell won't turn it over....
:lol
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It's all over .
Someone take him down to the back paddock and shoot him .
Bad luck Reece.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/reece-conca-ruled-out-for-10-weeks-with-hamstring-injury-worse-than-first-thought/news-story/b07b8fca56eda439393182cd8c826c6e
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Tiger's high hamstring injury worse than first thought
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
March 16, 2016
RICHMOND midfielder Reece Conca is likely to miss the first two months of the season after it was revealed his "high" hamstring injury was worse than first thought.
Conca, who suffered the injury during last Thursday night's NAB Challenge clash against Port Adelaide, has now been ruled out for up to 10 weeks by Tigers medical staff.
Richmond was initially optimistic that the 23-year-old has suffered a standard hamstring injury but last Friday stretched his recovery time to eight weeks.
On Wednesday, physical performance manager Peter Burge said scans had revealed the tendon damage on his right leg had occurred high up, which typically leads to an even longer recovery.
Conca suffered three separate hamstring injuries last season and only managed to play three games.
"Reece has got a hamstring injury high up near the tendon, so it's a longer-term process and (he'll be out for) eight to 10 weeks unfortunately," Burge told the club's website.
"It's on the side that he hasn't hurt before, so we start the rehab process and look forward to getting him back as soon as we can."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-16/conca-blow-tigers-hamstring-injury-worse-than-first-thought
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Good.
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That means he's straight back in just in time for dreamtime at the G :rollin
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10 weeks gives me a level of comfort. Better than 6 or 8.
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One of our best tacklers.
Hope he has a good run in the magoos to get his confidence up prior to his return. Shouldn't be rushed back like he and Griff were last year in the EF. :banghead
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One of our best tacklers.
Hope he has a good run in the magoos to get his confidence up prior to his return. Shouldn't be rushed back like he and Griff were last year in the EF. :banghead
Standing up tackle on the last line in the practice game was top draw
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If he's out best tackler then no wonder were stuffn rubbish
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If he's out best tackler then no wonder were stuffn rubbish
In 2014, when he played 19 games, he averaged 5.1 tackles per game which was the highest in the team that year. He has not played much since.
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Yeah laid 5 tackles per game, missed 7....
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Conca. Lmao. Never liked him, never would have given him 300k a year. What a pathetic business call. Would have kept Matty White at the club.
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Geez some of our supporters are nuts.
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Yeah laid 5 tackles per game, missed 7....
Probably. But others didn't even bother tackling at all. So 5 laid and 7 missed is better than none laid.
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Placed on LTI list.
So we can elevate another Rookie!
Source: twitter
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Conca on long-term list
Georgina Cahill,
richmondfc.com.au
March 17, 2016 5:01 PM
Richmond defender Reece Conca has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list.
Conca will miss the first 8-10 weeks of the 2016 AFL season after injuring his hamstring in last Thursday’s final NAB Challenge match against Port Adelaide.
The 23-year-old’s injury is high up in his hamstring, near the tendon, which means the recovery will be a longer-term process.
Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson, said the Club did not want to rush Conca’s return.
“The advice from our medical team is that Reece’s injury rehabilitation time will be a minimum eight weeks, so we felt that placing him on the long-term injury list will give him the necessary time to get his body right to play for us later in the season,” Richardson said.
“It also gives us the option to elevate another rookie-listed player. We have a number of rookie-listed players working really hard to earn a place on the senior list.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-17/conca-on-longterm-list
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Beat you cyclops! ;D
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Next injury for conca will be his lower back.
Game over.
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Reckon Marcon might be upgraded in his place
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It's all over .
Someone take him down to the back paddock and shoot him .
Bad luck Reece.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/reece-conca-ruled-out-for-10-weeks-with-hamstring-injury-worse-than-first-thought/news-story/b07b8fca56eda439393182cd8c826c6e
He's better than grigg :shh
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Wecome back and is a great addition to our side :clapping
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Big tick for reece
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Trade at the end of the year to Freo before he breaks down again, park him up now.
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Keep him
Can play Reece
Just needs to remain injury free
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He won't remain injury free and he is another B Ellis, Morris, Batchelor type, he fills a void when he is on the track that's it. He had too many inconsistent games when he was on the track and then the massive brain fade. Average player at best.
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Still a shyte truck.....send him back to Perth ASAP....
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He won't remain injury free and he is another B Ellis, Morris, Batchelor type, he fills a void when he is on the track that's it. He had too many inconsistent games when he was on the track and then the massive brain fade. Average player at best.
NFI, have a look at Abletts 2nd quarter after Reece went to him, from about the 7 min mark till half time Ablett had 1 touch
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Trade. End of story.
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He won't remain injury free and he is another B Ellis, Morris, Batchelor type, he fills a void when he is on the track that's it. He had too many inconsistent games when he was on the track and then the massive brain fade. Average player at best.
NFI, have a look at Abletts 2nd quarter after Reece went to him, from about the 7 min mark till half time Ablett had 1 touch
*golf clap*
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Adds more in the backline than Houli/bachelor/Morris types
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*more golf claps*
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One game back and listen to the praises he gets, ffs what a fickle bunch, clinging to the hope that he will be the saviour... :rollin
TRADE.
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One game back and listen to the praises he gets, ffs what a fickle bunch, clinging to the hope that he will be the saviour... :rollin
TRADE.
Its 'praise' not 'praises'
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He was like a new recruit......a nervous, inexperienced 18 year-old....
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I have always been a fan of Conca. His only weakness is his hamstrings......they hold up and we have a great player :shh
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Hamstrings aren't the only weakness.
Discipline, disposal and decision making are sub par.
BUT, he was good yesterday and definitely in our best 22.
Onwards and upwards hopefully.
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Build some trade currency for the rest of the year.
Then get rid of him, along with B Ellis, Vickery and probably Houli too.
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If you get rid of conca
Need to find some defenders
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^^, really, after one game back... Before his on game back half or more of this forum said he is a liability, get rid of him, no good anyway....bla bla bla...
He has one game back and all of a sudden he is the messiah.. :lol :lol :lol
This is typical of why we are where we are.... Houli will come back and the same will be said about him, Batch, Morris, all these type of mediocre players...Then they get a contract extension and they play like crap for the next 3 years....we are left with a side of under performers as we are now because these players are accepted as the future....Unreal!
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Yes really. Cause he is better than Houli. Bachelor. Morris hunt. Who are more limited.
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He is great at taking cheap shots, maybe that's why you like him. :wallywink
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Think he gets a bad wrap because a select few posters are constantly negative towards him to the extent it looks like the majority of the forum whereas half the forum is pretty impartial towards him
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Conca has come back from injuries, it's been a hard road for him, good on him.
As to all you flogs and knockers on this forum, take a long hard look at yourselves before you go putting someone like Reece down.
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Conca has come back from injuries, it's been a hard road for him, good on him.
As to all you flogs and knockers on this forum, take a long hard look at yourselves before you go putting someone like Reece down.
At least he doesn't pull out of contests like Bellis.
If he can string a few games together without injuring himself he will add a bit of mongrel to a team lacking a lot of it. A true rough diamond...
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I thought Conca was okay yesterday. He laid roughly 5 or 6 tackles. I think only Cotchin had more tackles.
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One game......nuff said, he will have a brain fade again, or do something stupid or do nothing at all, its when and not if.
Trade.
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Wat more hyperbole than Damien's cream on the poo cake
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Nah, think WAT might actually have it right for once, fair summation of his career so far....shoot enough arrows and one will eventually hit a target I guess...
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Judged harshly by those on here because Betamax picked him with pick 6. He was probably a pick 20 to 30. If we picked him there he would not be criticised which is strange because he had no control of where he was picked the draft.
He needs a good run to show his worth but has an amazing change of pace and sidestep that allows him to evade well. His disposal by foot is iffy (like half the team) but he has a red hot go and puts his body on the line. He is a good tackler too. He is best 22 easily and people look at the EF last year when he hadn't played a game for a long while and then is thrust into a high pressure final - again not his fault. Should not be judging players when they are clearly underdone.
My question on him is his body. Will his hammys stand up or will they go again? There is no use having a player that is always in rehab. If he can stay fit, we are a better team.
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I criticise him because I don't think he's very good...undisciplined, unfit, injury prone, mainly because he's unfit, generally a poor decision maker with unreliable disposal , capable of good disposal yes, (two best passes by foot I've seen in recent years were both by him.) but it's few far between and has some decent evasive skills, goes hard and tackles ok but that's about it and no more than what you could get from 4th rounder or a the kind of very good state leaguer you occassionally find with rookie picks....that he cost a first round pick at the expense of far superior & better performed players just happens to be the kicker to all that.
Could he improve and get over his injury problems? Dunno, maybe, I guess, but unless he absolutely stands out for the remainder of the season, I'm not willing to hang onto him forever or until he's worth absolutely nothing just to find out.
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Played a good game on returning from injury, challenge for him now is to see how those hammies go.
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I thought his tagging job on Gazza was pretty dam good! Top shelf even, considering how many times Gazza has cut us to pieces in the past! He was the perfect match up for Gazza (very well coached, but shoosh on that point around here!) which helped us get on top in the middle & take the game away from them. He played the tagging role really well, but lets see if he can back it up! One in a row & counting ... ;D
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He looked ok yesterday.
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I actually used to think Conca was a very good pick up and he would be an excellent player in time. But he just hasn't stepped up, even when he was fit he was average, he didn't really set the world on fire or play any games where I said wow, what a great game. At the moment he is just another mid tier level player who is filling a gap, like so many in our team. First he needs to get his body and fitness right as well as his mental attitude, then he needs to work on his game and his consistency. Maybe then we will have a better player but until then I won't be singing his praises after one game.
I still think he has more going for him as a trade then as along term player for the club.
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Conca. Astbury. Grimes.
Yarren. Rance. C Ellis.
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Astbury is a deer in headlights
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Astbury is a deer in headlights
And yet still light years ahead of Chaplin the monkey
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I criticise him because I don't think he's very good...undisciplined, unfit, injury prone, mainly because he's unfit, generally a poor decision maker with unreliable disposal , capable of good disposal yes, (two best passes by foot I've seen in recent years were both by him.) but it's few far between and has some decent evasive skills, goes hard and tackles ok but that's about it and no more than what you could get from 4th rounder or a the kind of very good state leaguer you occassionally find with rookie picks....that he cost a first round pick at the expense of far superior & better performed players just happens to be the kicker to all that.
Could he improve and get over his injury problems? Dunno, maybe, I guess, but unless he absolutely stands out for the remainder of the season, I'm not willing to hang onto him forever or until he's worth absolutely nothing just to find out.
I am of the belief he is much better when he kicks the ball long for example the kick to Martin in the fourth quarter which led to the goal by Lloyd. Has got to play consistent football between now and the end of the season to stay at the club.
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I criticise him because I don't think he's very good...undisciplined, unfit, injury prone, mainly because he's unfit, generally a poor decision maker with unreliable disposal , capable of good disposal yes, (two best passes by foot I've seen in recent years were both by him.) but it's few far between and has some decent evasive skills, goes hard and tackles ok but that's about it and no more than what you could get from 4th rounder or a the kind of very good state leaguer you occassionally find with rookie picks....that he cost a first round pick at the expense of far superior & better performed players just happens to be the kicker to all that.
Could he improve and get over his injury problems? Dunno, maybe, I guess, but unless he absolutely stands out for the remainder of the season, I'm not willing to hang onto him forever or until he's worth absolutely nothing just to find out.
I am of the belief he is much better when he kicks the ball long for example the kick to Martin in the fourth quarter which led to the goal by Lloyd. Has got to play consistent football between now and the end of the season to stay at the club.
Unfortunately when anyone kicks the ball long they are breaking team rules. Dumma will not have it! Chip chip dinky20 sideways crab movement is "the Richmond way". :clapping
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I criticise him because I don't think he's very good...undisciplined, unfit, injury prone, mainly because he's unfit, generally a poor decision maker with unreliable disposal , capable of good disposal yes, (two best passes by foot I've seen in recent years were both by him.) but it's few far between and has some decent evasive skills, goes hard and tackles ok but that's about it and no more than what you could get from 4th rounder or a the kind of very good state leaguer you occassionally find with rookie picks....that he cost a first round pick at the expense of far superior & better performed players just happens to be the kicker to all that.
Could he improve and get over his injury problems? Dunno, maybe, I guess, but unless he absolutely stands out for the remainder of the season, I'm not willing to hang onto him forever or until he's worth absolutely nothing just to find out.
I am of the belief he is much better when he kicks the ball long for example the kick to Martin in the fourth quarter which led to the goal by Lloyd. Has got to play consistent football between now and the end of the season to stay at the club.
Unfortunately when anyone kicks the ball long they are breaking team rules. Dumma will not have it! Chip chip dinky20 sideways crab movement is "the Richmond way". :clapping
I like how 'rance gave the goal goal away'...
Only guy trying to kick forwards , make the play. From the last spot on the zone.
Cause lambert at 50 meters out thought it's a goo idea to kick it backwards 60 meters
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“I was probably more half-back earlier in the year and I’ve slotted more midfield, bit of wing, the last few weeks (at VFL level and now in the AFL) . . . Really enjoying the time on-ball,” Conca said.
“Contested ball and tackles are a real focus at the moment, and I’m putting my foot forward in that aspect of the game . . . I’ve been really working on it.
“If they need me down back . . . I played a little bit (there) in the last quarter (against the Suns). So, just wherever they need me, really.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-06-13/conca-a-comeback-catalyst
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yeah right. GC, Lions top teams hey.
get a kick when it counts pal, along with bellis
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yeah right. GC, Lions top teams hey.
get a kick when it counts pal, along with bellis
Who are you talking about? Lids, Cotchin, Martin, Edwards, Jack?
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I watched a replay of the last quarter against the Suns and thought that Conca played very well in that quarter. It is at that level that he should be playing each week for four quarters. Hopefully can stay injury free and play to that standard.
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Not seen the game yet so will have a looksie today ;D
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Conca in English translates to Basin.
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(http://s31.postimg.org/fq32di60r/image.jpg)
I reckon these two pansies have something going.
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To be fair conca isn't soft IMO
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To be fair conca isn't soft IMO
Agreed. I'd rank him as close to our top 10 if in 2013 form (which perhaps says more about our list after the top 5). Still can't kick though :(
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
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His Finals camo were particularly 'hard'
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(http://s31.postimg.org/fq32di60r/image.jpg)
I reckon these two pansies have something going.
(http://s32.postimg.org/pq9g9u8rp/image.jpg)
(http://s31.postimg.org/spxtco617/image.jpg)
The evolution of Dud.
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:lol :lol......dirty ranga's....
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Nah it's not Conca's fault it's stuffin Dimma's :banghead
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Rance's hit.
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Rance's hit.
never
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Rance's hit.
rance should have been made captain after the hit on that prick
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Rance is really really good looking and can do cold steel.
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Rance's hit.
rance should have been made captain after the hit on that prick
;D
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Cause wat can't think of other examples of conca BEING soft hence resorts to bagging him for punchin someone
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Cause wat can't think of other examples of conca bring soft resorts to that
WTF does that even mean?? Are you already drinking???
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Never mind wat
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Never mind wat
Great idea.
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Cause wat can't think of other examples of conca bring soft resorts to that
WTF does that even mean?? Are you already drinking???
I'd say he is challenging you to find other examples where Conca has even mildly replicated that one brain fade.
Can you or will this be considered another attack on your personal integrity/opinion/ego?
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Inconsistency is one of the biggest parts of being soft.
His little chubby, marshmallow body is soft as stuff too.
Runs too hard and does a hammy or whatever.
FHO while there's value
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
Conca has had many average games.
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Cause wat can't think of other examples of conca bring soft resorts to that
WTF does that even mean?? Are you already drinking???
I'd say he is challenging you to find other examples where Conca has even mildly replicated that one brain fade.
Can you or will this be considered another attack on your personal integrity/opinion/ego?
:clapping :clapping :clapping
He won't answer the question though so not sure why we bother
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(http://s31.postimg.org/fq32di60r/image.jpg)
I reckon these two pansies have something going.
(http://s32.postimg.org/pq9g9u8rp/image.jpg)
(http://s31.postimg.org/spxtco617/image.jpg)
The evolution of Dud.
Watch what Conca says about B Ellis is this 100th game tribute video.
Definite chums. :rollin
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-06-11/fun-facts-ellis (http://m.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-06-11/fun-facts-ellis)
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Squib and Sniper.
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
Conca has had many average games.
As have all the others that have been coached by Hardwick,must be a coincidence.
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
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You can't say bum on this forum?
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Arsenal
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
Conca has had many average games.
So has Trengove, IIRC was dropped ina bottom 3 team, go figure.
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
Conca has had many average games.
So has Trengove, IIRC was dropped ina bottom 3 team, go figure.
CBF gathering the stats but I would guess Conca is way in front of Trengove.
And yet some people see a 13 stat game and like WHOA it's another failure from the RFC
Go figure
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
Conca has had many average games.
So has Trengove, IIRC was dropped ina bottom 3 team, go figure.
CBF gathering the stats but I would guess Conca is way in front of Trengove.
And yet some people see a 13 stat game and like WHOA it's another failure from the RFC
Go figure
Stats mean nothing apparently so don't.
Who are these people suggesting RFC failure, who are these villains?
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
Pretty sure you said he was going along pretty well. Seems like a statement. Lets see...
Going along pretty well at the moment, including at the minute against the Pies.... did we miss out here... :-\
But more importantly, as i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove (and say he is going ok yourself) when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
As i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove, when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
:lol
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
As i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove, when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
:lol
Ok then. That was easy!
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"And I'd like a specific answer please"
WTF... :lol
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
As i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove, when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
:lol
I laughed too. Clearly it was never to happen
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
As i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove, when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
:lol
I laughed too. Clearly it was never to happen
Too easy.
Furthermore, one can complain ad nauseum about other posters not debating the merits (instead taking potshots), yet, when they do debate the merits and someone gets found out, the only answer is a :lol
Well, confirmed what we all knew I guess!
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:snidegrin :lol
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Tough as nails, that's why he hits opposition players from behind when they are heading to the bench, real tough.... :snidegrin
Why is this always brought up?
It was an absolute brain fade promoted by some very personal comments from Devon Smith. Reece deeply regrets it.
Has everyone on OER never ever done anything they regretted because they acted spontaneously without thinking?
Just let it go. If he does it again, whack him as much as you like. However, we all need to forgive and forget especially because he didn't cause any physical harm to Smith.
Cause wat can't think of other examples of conca bring soft resorts to that
WTF does that even mean?? Are you already drinking???
Only god can judge me bousti
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"And I'd like a specific answer please"
WTF... :lol
Seems like everyone now knows you simply never answer questions because you can't argue a point on it's merit
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I love how these experts ride on the back of one average game.....while they do that I am sure we can ride on the back of his MASSIVE "brain fade"... :snidegrin
And yet, in posting this, you yourself raised for consideration 'have we done the wrong thing by not drafting Trengove' after a mere half of football.
So what is it? One game is not important or possibly is?
And dont give me the whole 'play the victim' scenario because we are talking about principles not personalities
I was asking a question, not making a statement, you really need to read posts as they are without twisting them. How's this then, have we done the right thing keeping Conco?????
As i said, you raised it for consideration.
I will now clarify.
1) Why assume an answer could be formed off half a game for Trengove, when 3 days later your bagging other posters out for judging a player (Conca) on a single game occurance? What is the difference and could you please explain it.
What can be deduced by a single game by a single player?
And id like a specific answer please .
:lol
I laughed too. Clearly it was never to happen
Too easy.
Furthermore, one can complain ad nauseum about other posters not debating the merits (instead taking potshots), yet, when they do debate the merits and someone gets found out, the only answer is a :lol
Well, confirmed what we all knew I guess!
Hmm seems the dh brigade are into poor old WAT.
Hmm trengove!!!! In Wats defence and yes it is not much of a defense. At least trengove went thru the ressies and actually played some very good footy for weeks on end to demand a game of seniors. That is an alien approach to this club. Fair enough having not played AFL for so long he had a poor game to be expected in some ways.Rather silly of WAT to be talking up his game and talking down others.
Thats it, thats all ive got.I will say though it will be interesting to see how Trengove goes for the rest of the season.More than likely it will take the rest of this year just to find his feet again.
Should we have taken Trengove ?? well imo that should not be asked until some time next year.
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Hmm seems the dh brigade are into poor old WAT.
Hmm trengove!!!! In Wats defence and yes it is not much of a defense. At least trengove went thru the ressies and actually played some very good footy for weeks on end to demand a game of seniors. That is an alien approach to this club. Fair enough having not played AFL for so long he had a poor game to be expected in some ways.Rather silly of WAT to be talking up his game and talking down others.
Thats it, thats all ive got.I will say though it will be interesting to see how Trengove goes for the rest of the season.More than likely it will take the rest of this year just to find his feet again.
Should we have taken Trengove ?? well imo that should not be asked until some time next year.
Point one; didn't Conca have to earn his position in the team? Or was that solely conditioning before he came back into the one's. Either way, I'd rather Conca in before half the rest of the scrubs pulling on the jumper for us?
Re: Trengove v Martin, surely you're all being facetious?
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Inconsistency is one of the biggest parts of being soft.
His little chubby, marshmallow body is soft as stuff too.
Runs too hard and does a hammy or whatever.
FHO while there's value
One of the largest parts of being soft is squibbing it
B Ellis
Chaplin
Houli
Conca may be fat, not consistent, injury prone
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Spud Frawley would've loved his spoil on Lloyd......fair dinkum, what a dumb stuff this fat prick is....
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10 disposals. 5 clangers. :rollin
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10 disposals. 5 clangers. :rollin
b ellis grigg 60 useless soft sideways possessions
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10 disposals. 5 clangers. :rollin
b ellis grigg 60 useless soft sideways possessions
FMD we get it, you don't rate Grigg
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average kick, not hard at it, slow
what is not too like?
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average kick, not hard at it, slow
what is not too like?
Average kick - more like league average, not hard at it - :lol yes he is, slow - above average is what he is :whistle
What is not to like? - Solid player in my book, not a star but he is not a Vickery either!
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Quick on his feet and a hard nut. Makes poor decisions at times and his kicking is awful..... :banghead
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average kick, not hard at it, slow
what is not too like?
Average kick - more like league average, not hard at it - :lol yes he is, slow - above average is what he is :whistle
What is not to like? - Solid player in my book, not a star but he is not a Vickery either!
Hard at it hodge, selwood.
Miles, Cotchin, rance.
Grigg? Lol
Wouldn't be far off the worst left footer in league. Ball hangs in the air an eternity. Pretty crap passing inside 50, goals
Excellent momentum killer - new mans heir
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Hmm seems the dh brigade are into poor old WAT.
Hmm trengove!!!! In Wats defence and yes it is not much of a defense. At least trengove went thru the ressies and actually played some very good footy for weeks on end to demand a game of seniors. That is an alien approach to this club. Fair enough having not played AFL for so long he had a poor game to be expected in some ways.Rather silly of WAT to be talking up his game and talking down others.
Thats it, thats all ive got.I will say though it will be interesting to see how Trengove goes for the rest of the season.More than likely it will take the rest of this year just to find his feet again.
Should we have taken Trengove ?? well imo that should not be asked until some time next year.
Point one; didn't Conca have to earn his position in the team? Or was that solely conditioning before he came back into the one's. Either way, I'd rather Conca in before half the rest of the scrubs pulling on the jumper for us?
Re: Trengove v Martin, surely you're all being facetious?
Are you on drugs Dougey
1/where did i mention Conca lol
2/Who compared Trengove to Martin did i miss something?
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Still can't understand why you give Trengove years and bagged Rance for years when he was starting out
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"Alas, Richmond did make what we can now see was a blunder, calling the name of Reece Conca, a West Australian kid who had speed and could kick but has often been hurt."
From the article on us not selecting Lynch. Interesting that he "had speed".....
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Now he just has cakes.
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Yes ladies and gentlemen, we have our new Batchelor... :clapping
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Bachelor of the first round
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Of course you'd agree with those decisions
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He has been useless. FACT!!!
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stuffing dud. Just stuff him off once and for all
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stuffing dud. Just stuff him off once and for all
x2
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Better than grigg
:shh
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stuffing dud. Just stuff him off once and for all
x2
Come on guys move on.....played well tonight but that still doesn't satisfy some :whistle
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stuffing dud. Just stuff him off once and for all
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Come on guys move on.....played well tonight but that still doesn't satisfy some :whistle
What did we lose by?? Watch the game again and see his turnover in the second and that 50 he gave up cause the fat stuff was too slow to give the ball back
Stuff the dud
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Freo bound!!!
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stuffing dud. Just stuff him off once and for all
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Come on guys move on.....played well tonight but that still doesn't satisfy some :whistle
What did we lose by?? Watch the game again and see his turnover in the second and that 50 he gave up cause the fat stuff was too slow to give the ball back
stuff the dud
I watched a game with all 44 players turning the ball over :wallywink Yep agree with the 50 but please it wasn't even a bloody free kick in the first place :whistle
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Nor was it a 50.
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If Conca let it go with Bont all over him the ball would've hit the ground and the ump would have paid 50 for not giving it back. Happens every game 10 times over. The player waits until their man lets them go then throws the ball back but they decide to pull a 50 out of their arse this time
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Still played crap, too slow, too many turnovers, no good. :help
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As pointed out by the commentators it shouldn't have even been a free let alone a fifty metre penalty. Will be brushed aside with all the other dubiousness of the night though. "Oh we can't get em all right... or even most of em "
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Good Player. missed alot of football & needs to play out the season to be judged on then
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Dumb as dog shyte, trade to Freo or West Coast.
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Some players will never BE winners or play for a winning team.
Conca is this
Been saying to FHO for 5 years
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Offer Essendon a double deal with Ellis and Conca for Hurley.
Can't separate them because they start pining for one another.
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
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They are all playing crap when they are sent out there not to win
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
:clapping
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
:clapping
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LMAO
Can't even make depression references on here now. :snidegrin
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
Who in the team can do better???? So much bagging of him with absolutely no alternative suggestion.
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He does make errors but honestly when he first came into the side after being drafted he was one of our better users of the ball. I think what people have to remember is that he has had his fair share of injuries and hasn't had an extended run of games to regain his touch and conditioning.
I think he can still play a part and at only 24 next month he can be one of the core group of experienced players working along side the up and coming younger players that Hardwick is belatedly introducing.
He is no doubt a much maligned player but I am confident he will be a better player next season assuming he isn't part of some trade in the off season and he has no further injuries.
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He does make errors but honestly when he first came into the side after being drafted he was one of our better users of the ball. I think what people have to remember is that he has had his fair share of injuries and hasn't had an extended run of games to regain his touch and conditioning.
I think he can still play a part and at only 24 next month he can be one of the core group of experienced players working along side the up and coming younger players that Hardwick is belatedly introducing.
He is no doubt a much maligned player but I am confident he will be a better player next season assuming he isn't part of some trade in the off season and he has no further injuries.
:clapping
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
Who in the team can do better???? So much bagging of him with absolutely no alternative suggestion.
That's a seperate issue that highlights the ineptitude of the whole footy department including list management, recruiting & coaching staff.
The fact that no one could do better at this moment doesn't change that fact that the Spud is just a crap player despite his "improvement".
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
Who in the team can do better???? So much bagging of him with absolutely no alternative suggestion.
That's a seperate issue that highlights the ineptitude of the whole footy department including list management, recruiting & coaching staff.
The fact that no one could do better at this moment doesn't change that fact that the Spud is just a crap player despite his "improvement".
He is the best we have at the moment whichever way you look at it and thats it.
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Thread's about one of our useless midfielder/hbf's not our useless ruckman....
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Let's just have one mega thread, the theme is all the same.
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Not a bad idea considering the crap we have in the team.
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Contract status?
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He does make errors but honestly when he first came into the side after being drafted he was one of our better users of the ball. I think what people have to remember is that he has had his fair share of injuries and hasn't had an extended run of games to regain his touch and conditioning.
I think he can still play a part and at only 24 next month he can be one of the core group of experienced players working along side the up and coming younger players that Hardwick is belatedly introducing.
He is no doubt a much maligned player but I am confident he will be a better player next season assuming he isn't part of some trade in the off season and he has no further injuries.
In other words, one of those guys who never really has had his poo together....and it shows.
Sorry but no moref kn excuses for these list clogging b graders, of which he is the king.
You dont just become a standout player when your entire career has been one of inconsistencies but
"you did a couple of things"
Cut the losses and cut him.
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Lolz
Reece is the word
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg 7:10 PM Thu 18 Nov, 2010
Richmond has snared gun West Australian midfielder, Reece Conca, with its first selection in the 2010 AFL National Draft.
The Tigers’ Recruitment Manager, Francis Jackson, had no hesitation in reading out Conca’s name at tonight’s (Thursday, November 18) Draft, held on the Gold Coast.
Conca had been penciled in by the Tigers as their No. 1 Draft choice for several months.
The 18-year-old, from WAFL club Perth, had thoroughly convinced Tiger talent scouts he was their man at the No. 6 selection overall in the Draft, due to his excellent all-round football skills, versatility, and impressive leadership qualities.
In 2010, Conca was vice-captain of the WA team at the under-18 National Championships, and he was considered unlucky not to be named as an All-Australian.
At WAFL level, he worked his way up from Perth’s colts team to senior ranks late in the season and had an immediate impact, highlighted by a best-on-ground performance in just his fifth game, against ladder leader Claremont.
“We’ve been very keen on Reece since Round 1 of the WAFL this year. I saw him (in the colts) against East Fremantle, where he had 35 touches and dominated,” Jackson said.
“All-up, he played only seven colts games this year, one in which he was injured, yet still managed to finish equal sixth in the competition’s Jack Clarke Medal, after six best-on-ground performances.
“He’s just such a well-rounded player. He’s got high endurance, really good speed and outstanding lateral movement and awareness. I’m sure that his peripheral awareness, and understanding of what’s happening around him, is a direct result of him playing soccer up until the age of 13.
“Not only does he win a lot of the ball, he’s a very, very good user of it. Out of all the kicking profiles that we’ve done, his is the best. He can take a good mark, his decision-making is outstanding, and his ability to win one-on-one footy, as well as win outside footy, is just a joy to watch.
“We’ve tracked his progress closely all year, watched him play live every game, and he doesn’t appear to have any weaknesses.
“I’m sure when Tiger supporters look at his highlights’ package on our website, they’ll realise why we’re so delighted to have picked him up.”
Conca’s intelligence is not merely confined to the football field . . .
“He has been doing a commerce/psychology degree at Trinity College in Perth, but he deferred this semester,” Jackson said.
“We gave all our psych tests from the Draft Combine at the end of the season to the Club’s psychologist, Kim Stephens. He didn’t know any of the players - all he had was 30 names, with 30 psych profiles for different tests - and Reece came out No. 1.
“So, he’s the complete package . . . an outstanding kid."
Jackson had a nervous wait along the way, fearing one of the clubs with selections before Richmond early in the Draft, would take Conca.
“He had an ankle injury later in the season and subsequently had a bit of a bone spur removed through surgery, which meant he missed the last two rounds and the Colts finals - but I was more than happy with that,” Jackson said.
“We even had to hide our interest from former Richmond player, Brian Leys, who is the CEO of Perth, because we were so keen on him and didn’t want other clubs finding out.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105377/default.aspx
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Trade to a WA club. If we're lucky we'll get a third rounder….. :banghead
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All-up, he played only seven colts games this year, one in which he was injured,
Consistency
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I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
Who in the team can do better???? So much bagging of him with absolutely no alternative suggestion.
That's a seperate issue that highlights the ineptitude of the whole footy department including list management, recruiting & coaching staff.
The fact that no one could do better at this moment doesn't change that fact that the Spud is just a crap player despite his "improvement".
He is the best we have at the moment whichever way you look at it and thats it.
I would be playing Griffiths and McBean before Hampson
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I would be playing Griffiths and McBean before Hampson
I would even play Vickery in the ruck for the rest of the year before Hamspud....seriously...
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For me his lack of of awareness just kills him too often.Also the dumb idiotic free kicks keep on happening.
This guy is never going to be anything more than a b/c grader.He aint as bad as a lot make him out to be but he is nothing special either.
He is one i would clearly look to be trading out of the club. You never know another club may still see a bit of upside and get us back into the second round.
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For me his lack of of awareness just kills him too often.Also the dumb idiotic free kicks keep on happening.
This guy is never going to be anything more than a b/c grader.He aint as bad as a lot make him out to be but he is nothing special either.
He is one i would clearly look to be trading out of the club. You never know another club may still see a bit of upside and get us back into the second round.
100% agree. Hes not as bad as some make out, but he'll also never be anything more than an average run of the mill mid you can find later in the draft. If the rumour is true about conca for longer - I'd do it without hesitating pending a successful medical on Longers head
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For me his lack of of awareness just kills him too often.Also the dumb idiotic free kicks keep on happening.
This guy is never going to be anything more than a b/c grader.He aint as bad as a lot make him out to be but he is nothing special either.
He is one i would clearly look to be trading out of the club. You never know another club may still see a bit of upside and get us back into the second round.
100% agree. Hes not as bad as some make out, but he'll also never be anything more than an average run of the mill mid you can find later in the draft. If the rumour is true about conca for longer - I'd do it without hesitating pending a successful medical on Longers head
What Longer rumour?.
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For me his lack of of awareness just kills him too often.Also the dumb idiotic free kicks keep on happening.
This guy is never going to be anything more than a b/c grader.He aint as bad as a lot make him out to be but he is nothing special either.
He is one i would clearly look to be trading out of the club. You never know another club may still see a bit of upside and get us back into the second round.
100% agree. Hes not as bad as some make out, but he'll also never be anything more than an average run of the mill mid you can find later in the draft. If the rumour is true about conca for longer - I'd do it without hesitating pending a successful medical on Longers head
What Longer rumour?.
According to Sporting Pulse, the Saints have asked for a direct swap - Longer for Conca.
Not sure how accurate it is though.
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Yes pls
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Yes pls
Straight swap please.......Saints would need to arrange something better then that :whistle Longer is struggling in the seconds with young Soldo touching him up early this year.
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Yes pls
Straight swap please.......Saints would need to arrange something better then that :whistle Longer is struggling in the seconds with young Soldo touching him up early this year.
true i forgot how pivotal conca has been for us in his career.
I would take a used tampon for the dud.
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Let's just have one mega thread, the theme is all the same.
:lol
I am not talking about the 50 meters or the free kicks, I am talking about how bad he is, he is too slow, cant read the play. he is a mile behind it.
Must be gone at years end.
LMAO, thats what every one is saying about about hampson and you are swinging off his nuts like he is in brownlow form.
flabbergasting, much
I have said Hampson is doing what he has to, he is doing a good job, as I have said before, he is not the long term answer but at the moment he is all we have. I hope that settles it for you once and for all.
No it's not good enough! How could you even think this is when I for one thought you to be less of an apologist than most. You may be right about Batchelor but your way off the mark here. Just because he's the only option doesn't mean that he doesn't need to do more than just tap the ball. It's unacceptable and mediocre to suggest he's doing a good job as he just isn't doing enough and what he is doing is still substandard, pathetic & dumb.
Your beginning to sound like Bojo when discussing this Spud.
Who in the team can do better???? So much bagging of him with absolutely no alternative suggestion.
That's a seperate issue that highlights the ineptitude of the whole footy department including list management, recruiting & coaching staff.
The fact that no one could do better at this moment doesn't change that fact that the Spud is just a crap player despite his "improvement".
He is the best we have at the moment whichever way you look at it and thats it.
That would be all good if thats what Tigiritis was talking about.
I doubt the point could be put forward any better and you respond with a totally irrelevant comment?
Its the doing his job part that is WTF?
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
The question remains though, without prior opportunity, how can a player correctly dispose of a ball which is held to him by another player. A correct disposal is a kick or a handball. Neither can be done when the ball is held to your chest by another player.......... :whistle
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Is Hayden Kennedy going to enforce that decision all the time is he? I doubt it. It gets paid 1 in 100 times and it should be less.
The 'unrealistic' call on Cotchin was wrong too, he nearly marked the darn thing.
For the same thing to happen to Cotchin 2 minutes later, and no call, shows what a bunch of cheating mongrels they are.
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Conca is an undisciplined princess.
It is not the first time he has been penalised for this kind of crap,
in fact he has done it his whole career.
I don't understand why anyone is defending him.
The little idiot always tries to waste time giving the ball over and this time he
got pinged.
Long live the iceberg!
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Don't think they are defending Conca more having a go at a terrible umpire call that came at a pivotal time in the match.
As one article said lets bring in the league wriggling worm into our game
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Don't think they are defending Conca more having a go at a terrible umpire call that came at a pivotal time in the match.
As one article said lets bring in the league wriggling worm into our game
:clapping
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Conca is an undisciplined princess.
It is not the first time he has been penalised for this kind of crap,
in fact he has done it his whole career.
I don't understand why anyone is defending him.
The little idiot always tries to waste time giving the ball over and this time he
got pinged.
Long live the iceberg!
It's a good tatic as it allows people to get back
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
The question remains though, without prior opportunity, how can a player correctly dispose of a ball which is held to him by another player. A correct disposal is a kick or a handball. Neither can be done when the ball is held to your chest by another player.......... :whistle
They dont have to correctly dispose of the ball when there is no prior opportunity, they have to make a genuine attempt.
I'm not real sure what the umps expect when both arms are pinned though.
I have asked umpires coaches and senior umpires about this and they are not instructed to do so, but they generally give more leeway if you try to drop the ball to your boot rather than attempt a half arsed handball.
There are also times when you are better off just to hang onto the ball and give away a free, in particular if you are outnumbered at the contest.
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Conca is an undisciplined princess.
It is not the first time he has been penalised for this kind of crap,
in fact he has done it his whole career.
I don't understand why anyone is defending him.
The little idiot always tries to waste time giving the ball over and this time he
got pinged.
Long live the iceberg!
It's a good tatic as it allows people to get back
When done properly and without ego, it's a good tactic.
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
The question remains though, without prior opportunity, how can a player correctly dispose of a ball which is held to him by another player. A correct disposal is a kick or a handball. Neither can be done when the ball is held to your chest by another player.......... :whistle
They dont have to correctly dispose of the ball when there is no prior opportunity, they have to make a genuine attempt.
I'm not real sure what the umps expect when both arms are pinned though.
It's bollocks
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Conca is an undisciplined princess.
It is not the first time he has been penalised for this kind of crap,
in fact he has done it his whole career.
I don't understand why anyone is defending him.
The little idiot always tries to waste time giving the ball over and this time he
got pinged.
Long live the iceberg!
It's a good tatic as it allows people to get back
When done properly and without ego, it's a good tactic.
Without ego or without intelligence?
This guy is a dumb little sniper on the field. Maybe has an egotistical eating disorder off the field.
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Apologies if this has already been said-
But what I don't get, especially in our last couple of games is, if a player gets the footy, gets tackled without prior opportunity, the umpire runs in and within a second blows his whistle for a ball up.
Then on other occasions the same thing happens but the umpire doesn't come sprinting in, he waits, one second, two second, three seconds, then says holding the ball. No legitimate attempt to dispose of the footy.
Why do they blow their whistle straight away sometimes and wait on others??
The player making the play should be looked after IMO. If the tackle has legitimately held the ball in, then it's a ball up.
The other one that poos me at the moment is if a player picks up the footy and is tackled without having prior opportunity and the tackle jars the ball free, why is that a free kick?? I know it's not a legal disposal but the fact you haven't had prior opportunity, and the tackle is the result the ball jars free should make it play on. It happened a lot against Port the week before and we got pinged.
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Apologies if this has already been said-
But what I don't get, especially in our last couple of games is, if a player gets the footy, gets tackled without prior opportunity, the umpire runs in and within a second blows his whistle for a ball up.
Then on other occasions the same thing happens but the umpire doesn't come sprinting in, he waits, one second, two second, three seconds, then says holding the ball. No legitimate attempt to dispose of the footy.
Why do they blow their whistle straight away sometimes and wait on others??
The player making the play should be looked after IMO. If the tackle has legitimately held the ball in, then it's a ball up.
The other one that poos me at the moment is if a player picks up the footy and is tackled without having prior opportunity and the tackle jars the ball free, why is that a free kick?? I know it's not a legal disposal but the fact you haven't had prior opportunity, and the tackle is the result the ball jars free should make it play on. It happened a lot against Port the week before and we got pinged.
Happens all the time with almost every rule
Most identical incidents with opposite results
Stupid idea to use multiple umpires
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
The question remains though, without prior opportunity, how can a player correctly dispose of a ball which is held to him by another player. A correct disposal is a kick or a handball. Neither can be done when the ball is held to your chest by another player.......... :whistle
They dont have to correctly dispose of the ball when there is no prior opportunity, they have to make a genuine attempt.
I'm not real sure what the umps expect when both arms are pinned though.
It's bollocks
first or second part?
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But what I don't get, especially in our last couple of games is, if a player gets the footy, gets tackled without prior opportunity, the umpire runs in and within a second blows his whistle for a ball up.
This is exactly what I was alluding to. This happens regularly. The ump blows the whistle immediately saying that there was no prior opportunity and calls for a ball up. That is the correct interpretation. You must be given some chance to dispose of it by a handball or a kick - the only two legitimate disposal techniques (that is why these are the only disposal stats). The only time this isn't supposed to be applied is when a player drags a ball in underneath him.
Conca did not have even a split second to handball or kick. He was grabbed immediately and Bontipelli held the ball to his chest. With his hand on the ball, theoretically he also had possession of the ball.
It was a very poor decision by people that don't actually understand the game or its rules and how they apply. When the ball is being held to you, you should not need to try to punch it away if you had no previous chance to dispose of it.
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why shouldnt you have to attempt to dispose of the ball if it is being held to you in the tackle?
Isnt the purpose of tackling someone to prevent them disposing of the ball?
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why shouldnt you have to attempt to dispose of the ball if it is being held to you in the tackle?
Isnt the purpose of tackling someone to prevent them disposing of the ball?
Yes it is. And he did stop Conca from getting rid of the footy. The Bont did his job.
But if the player with the footy haven't had ample time to dispose of it before the ball is held to him, why should he be penalised? It should be a ball up.
Fair enough if the player has had time to dispose of it and gets caught and doesn't dispose of it correctly, then it's a free to the tackler. No one disputes that.
But the number 1 rule in footy at the moment is to protect the guy making the play, and that just doesn't mean protect him from getting hurt, it's to protect him because he has made the play first.
I recon the umps have got this wrong of late.
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AFL umpires boss Hayden Kennedy has ticked off the Reece Conca decision and raised concerns some fans and commentators don’t fully understand the prior opportunity rule.
Conca was pinged in the tense final quarter on Saturday night for making no attempt to dispose of the ball, which prompted discussion by Channel Seven commentators and widespread condemnation on social media.
The critics of the decision said Conca had no prior opportunity before he was pinged for holding the ball.
But AFL rules state that if there’s no prior opportunity, the player must “genuinely attempt” to dispose of the ball, which Conca didn’t.
AFL rule 15.2.3 (b) states: “Where the field umpire is satisfied that a player in possession of the football ... has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field umpire shall award a free kick against that player if, upon being correctly tackled, the player does not correctly dispose or genuinely attempt to correctly dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.”
still the umps fault or perhaps dimwit and cunca dont understand the game, which wouldnt be a surprise.
The question remains though, without prior opportunity, how can a player correctly dispose of a ball which is held to him by another player. A correct disposal is a kick or a handball. Neither can be done when the ball is held to your chest by another player.......... :whistle
They dont have to correctly dispose of the ball when there is no prior opportunity, they have to make a genuine attempt.
I'm not real sure what the umps expect when both arms are pinned though.
It's bollocks
first or second part?
The two parts together
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Conca is an undisciplined princess.
It is not the first time he has been penalised for this kind of crap,
in fact he has done it his whole career.
I don't understand why anyone is defending him.
The little idiot always tries to waste time giving the ball over and this time he
got pinged.
Long live the iceberg!
It's a good tatic as it allows people to get back
When done properly and without ego, it's a good tactic.
Without ego or without intelligence?
This guy is a dumb little sniper on the field. Maybe has an egotistical eating disorder off the field.
So what is Rance on the field?
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A leader :snidegrin
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why shouldnt you have to attempt to dispose of the ball if it is being held to you in the tackle?
Isnt the purpose of tackling someone to prevent them disposing of the ball?
Yes it is. And he did stop Conca from getting rid of the footy. The Bont did his job.
But if the player with the footy haven't had ample time to dispose of it before the ball is held to him, why should he be penalised? It should be a ball up.
Fair enough if the player has had time to dispose of it and gets caught and doesn't dispose of it correctly, then it's a free to the tackler. No one disputes that.
But the number 1 rule in footy at the moment is to protect the guy making the play, and that just doesn't mean protect him from getting hurt, it's to protect him because he has made the play first.
I recon the umps have got this wrong of late.
so you think there are times when you shouldnt have to make an attempt to get of the ball when tackled?
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I suppose when you are completely wrapped up you could wriggle and shake like a spaz in a straight jacket for effect
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Value dropping every time the ball goes near him.
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Gwt2 rid of him
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Gwt2 rid of him
On the sauce? :lol
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He should have played in the reserves today, could have looked like a Brownlow medallist.
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Solid thus far :clapping
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:facepalm
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Solid thus far :clapping
A solid 6 dinky possessions on 0 tackles in almost a half of football
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Solid thus far :clapping
A solid 6 dinky possessions on 0 tackles in almost a half of football
He has gone backwards as a footballer, if that's possible!
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Solid thus far :clapping
A solid 6 dinky possessions on 0 tackles in almost a half of football
5 other team mates have........0 tackles aswell :gobdrop
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And that makes it alright? He's stuffing poo
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No but if you raise tackle stats put all players in who have also had 0.
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No but if you raise tackle stats put all players in who have also had 0.
So it makes it right.
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Is he on the ground yet?
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:lol :lol Conca just standing at the back watching that goal... :clapping
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:lol :lol Conca just standing at the back watching that goal... :clapping
Exactly.
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It's the new in thing brought to you by your mate Hampson
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No but if you raise tackle stats put all players in who have also had 0.
So it makes it right.
Ye :snidegrin
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It's the new in thing brought to you by your mate Hampson
Exactly :lol
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Freo away you go...away to the Freo Dockers...
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It's the new in thing brought to you by your mate Hampson
1. Hands on hips have a well earned rest regardless of where ball is
2. Look shocked I ball returns to you general area during said breather
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Conca thread???
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He has gone backwards as a footballer, if that's possible!
Most of the list have gone backwards under Hardwick.
:banghead
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Richmond has often boasted about nailing its first-round selections in the past decade but yesterday it was made clear Reece Conca ... [was] out the door.
... it was made clear to Reece Conca he was surplus to requirements.
Conca was taken at pick 6 in the 2010 national draft.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-lennon-has-requested-a-trade-out-of-richmond-after-three-seasons-at-the-club/news-story/7e573ba862668b99ae62ff9d1c707670)
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worthless, we'll be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for him imo
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He was treated like a god when Martin hadn't re signed.
LMAO. What a dud.
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So that's 2 first round draft picks we are giving up on yet we keep persisting with Hunt, Moore, Townsend....
Basket case..
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Hammies ruined what could have been a solid player (you'd still want more from a pick 6) but now we are stuck with a player who at best is below par
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Perhaps if the little chunky eff was more nutritionally professional his feeble hammies wouldnt be carrying an extra 7-9kg of weight.
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Perhaps if the little chunky eff was more nutritionally professional his feeble hammies wouldnt be carrying an extra 7-9kg of weight.
I see it the other way (hammies ruined his training/nutrition routine) but each to their own
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Perhaps if the little chunky eff was more nutritionally professional his feeble hammies wouldnt be carrying an extra 7-9kg of weight.
I see it the other way (hammies ruined his training/nutrition routine) but each to their own
Please explain?
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The real issue with Conca is that he is shyte at football...
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https://twitter.com/Wayno_Reynolds/status/771174859560800257 (https://twitter.com/Wayno_Reynolds/status/771174859560800257)
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The real issue with Conca is that he is shyte at football...
Yeah but he's a beast at eating contests.
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Conca and Ellis are an example of Hardwick's guidance.
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Need to get a good draft pick for him but have savage doubts about the recruiting department's competence.
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Harwick is like the male version of Bridget Jones
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Need to get a good draft pick for him but have savage doubts about the recruiting department's competence.
Hard to get any pick when it is advertised that you are not part of the future.....
Stupid club.
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Conca and Ellis are an example of Hardwick's guidance.
Two rotten aggots swinging from a idiot
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Conca and Ellis are an example of Hardwick's guidance.
While they are at it, get rid of Ellis too.
A second rounder each would be gift.
Conca- pick 30 odd
Ellis- pick 30 odd
Vickery- 25 odd compo
Lennon- 25 odd
Griff- 30 odd
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Vickery free agent
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Vickery free agent
Compo pick
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Have we traded Conca yet?? If not, I can get two donkeys for him where I am working now and they will throw in the cart. Dead set steal IMO. :)
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Hampsons nape.
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Have we traded Conca yet?? If not, I can get two donkeys for him where I am working now and they will throw in the cart. Dead set steal IMO. :)
Isn't Cloke a donkey? There's a straight swap :clapping
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lmao at the floppy rooster edits
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Balmey on SEN said Conca is staying....
https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82
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:thumbsdown
Off to a flying start is Neil
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Like to see how he can go if he can stay injury free and put in a good pre-season.
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Well done Balme :clapping an injury prone dud wants to leave and you convince him to stay.
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The dud whisperer?
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Meanwhile, Richmond have given injury-riddled midfielder Reece Conca a chance to live up to his early promise by recontracting him. He is scheduled to join full pre-season training next month.
It was reported five weeks ago that the 2010 overall No 6 national draft pick had mutually split with the Tigers and that he was up for trade next week. But under a new management regime at Punt Road — headed by new general manager of football operations Neil Balme — Richmond have embraced the 24-year-old West Australian and he is back in the fold.
And he may be even more important to the Tigers’ structure if last year’s priority recruit, Chris Yarran, fails to return.
Injury and mental health issues prevented Yarran from playing a game this year, after his 119 matches with Carlton, and there are no guarantees he will be able to kickstart his career.
Conca finished the recent season playing in the VFL, following two seasons virtually ruined by severe hamstring injuries.
Richmond yesterday said he had made a full recovery from his latest hamstring setbacks.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl-grand-final-review-pans-umpires/news-story/01975ac466fbcbf6fca4ccaee06e2cf7
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Haha.
Beyond a joke now
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Clearly no other club rated him nor wanted him.....except us....now to get Andrew Moore safely sealed away...
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start a lottery thread for the hammy ping game.
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could be the new yazza hahah gee whizz boys the player wanted to move on his been riddled with injuries for 2-3 years he is very over rated like a earlier message no one wanted him and were stuck with him great
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Balmey on SEN said Conca is staying....
https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82
Errr no that's not what he said
Fron the AFL website
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk
TIGERS EXPECT CONCA TO RE-SIGN
RICHMOND football manager Neil Balme has suggested midfielder Reece Conca will extend his contract with the club.
The 24-year-old is out of contract and has been speculated as a player the Tigers could trade after six games this season and just three in 2015.
"Yeah I’m pretty sure he will (re-sign)," Balme told SEN on Friday.
"I don’t think it’s had anything to do with me but I’m pleased he is, it’s good."
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Now anyone who's listened to Balme over the years on his weekly spot with KB knows he says alot but doesnt actually say much is always non committal. Lost count of the number of times he said so n so would play, wasnt injured and then didn't play for 6 weeks ;D
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start a lottery thread for the hammy ping game.
Done....
...then undone....
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Balmey on SEN said Conca is staying....
https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82
Errr no that's not what he said
Fron the AFL website
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk
TIGERS EXPECT CONCA TO RE-SIGN
RICHMOND football manager Neil Balme has suggested midfielder Reece Conca will extend his contract with the club.
The 24-year-old is out of contract and has been speculated as a player the Tigers could trade after six games this season and just three in 2015.
"Yeah I’m pretty sure he will (re-sign)," Balme told SEN on Friday.
"I don’t think it’s had anything to do with me but I’m pleased he is, it’s good."
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Now anyone who's listened to Balme over the years on his weekly spot with KB knows he says alot but doesnt actually say much is always non committal. Lost count of the number of times he said so n so would play, wasnt injured and then didn't play for 6 weeks ;D
Take it with a grain of salt.
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Steady as she goes.
Locking in the guns hamspud grigg houli griffo ivan conca leppa. Locked and loaded. Cream time.
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Rfc. When we sign a dud player,we sign them for life!
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Like to see how he can go if he can stay injury free and put in a good pre-season.
The first 6-7 seasons werent enough of an indication Cub?
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I'm pretty sure we are keeping him for his leadership. And that's more important than playing ability at the great RFC.
It doesn't really matter that even when fit he is a turnover, fumbling dud.
He has played 9 of a possible 46 games in the last couple of years and basically wanted out but luckily we turned him around.
It's been a good week all up.
Maric is staying after showing most he is 100% done and dusted.
We re-signed a sacked ex coach of a team that won about 6 games in 2 years.
And now the Conca news.
Both Conca and Maric must have shown in the reserves at the end of the year that they were valuable members of our side going forward.
Well played Tigers
Add Prestia for pick 6 and I can hardly wait for 2017
FMD
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I'm pretty sure we are keeping him for his leadership. And that's more important than playing ability at the great RFC.
It doesn't really matter that even when fit he is a turnover, fumbling dud.
He has played 9 of a possible 46 games in the last couple of years and basically wanted out but luckily we turned him around.
It's been a good week all up.
Maric is staying after showing most he is 100% done and dusted.
We re-signed a sacked ex coach of a team that won about 6 games in 2 years.
And now the Conca news.
Both Conca and Maric must have shown in the reserves at the end of the year that they were valuable members of our side going forward.
Well played Tigers
Add Prestia for pick 6 and I can hardly wait for 2017
FMD
WOT ? >:(
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I'm pretty sure we are keeping him for his leadership. And that's more important than playing ability at the great RFC.
It doesn't really matter that even when fit he is a turnover, fumbling dud.
He has played 9 of a possible 46 games in the last couple of years and basically wanted out but luckily we turned him around.
It's been a good week all up.
Maric is staying after showing most he is 100% done and dusted.
We re-signed a sacked ex coach of a team that won about 6 games in 2 years.
And now the Conca news.
Both Conca and Maric must have shown in the reserves at the end of the year that they were valuable members of our side going forward.
Well played Tigers
Add Prestia for pick 6 and I can hardly wait for 2017
FMD
WOT ? >:(
Yep.
Most are contently resigned to the fact, 2017 will be the official public implosion of the current RFC.
A fraudulent review of the club as overseen by Benny Gale that has cost a packet and proven to be nothing more than a time buying tactic from the current board of lawyers and accountants now sees the club nearly changeless.
It will be satisfying watching the club struggle to be competitive between the garbage drafted and developed and the departures.
This culture sucks and it belongs to the currebt board's professional mentality.
Challengers won't go away in 2017 nor should they
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I'm pretty sure we are keeping him for his leadership. And that's more important than playing ability at the great RFC.
It doesn't really matter that even when fit he is a turnover, fumbling dud.
He has played 9 of a possible 46 games in the last couple of years and basically wanted out but luckily we turned him around.
It's been a good week all up.
Maric is staying after showing most he is 100% done and dusted.
We re-signed a sacked ex coach of a team that won about 6 games in 2 years.
And now the Conca news.
Both Conca and Maric must have shown in the reserves at the end of the year that they were valuable members of our side going forward.
Well played Tigers
Add Prestia for pick 6 and I can hardly wait for 2017
FMD
FMD, frankensteins wifes last words
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This off season is like a re-boot of Trading Places except it Peg and Benny who bet the dollar. Conca in the crapper swallowing the joint when Peg and Benny swap the dollar bill in the wash room
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Yep it just gets better and better. Balmey really fitting in well with the softly softly crew. One big happy family.
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we can see how this one's going to end for dimma
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Now just to sign up batchelor and lennon give pick 6 for prestia and next years first rounder for motlop and we're set.
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Lmao @ Conca being a valued player because nobody else wanted him.
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Now just to sign up batchelor and lennon give pick 6 for prestia and next years first rounder for motlop and we're set.
Morris too, must have him on the books.
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People are aware that at this time he hasn't re-signed
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Blame sounded like conca re sign imminent.
Sack the fat duck
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People are aware that rat this time he hasn't re-signed
Did you mean "at" this time or is Rat Conca's nickname around the traps?
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He is referring to yarren
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Will be shocked if we re-sign this bloke.
Another unaccountable passenger on the list just enjoying his pay packet and hoping he's never asked to earn it.
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Will be shocked if we re-sign this bloke.
Another unaccountable passenger on the list just enjoying his pay packet and hoping he's never asked to earn it.
We gave new deals long term to
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
Maric
Morris
Astbury
Hunt
Why are you shocked :gotigers
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Will be shocked if we re-sign this bloke.
Another unaccountable passenger on the list just enjoying his pay packet and hoping he's never asked to earn it.
We gave new deals long term to
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
Maric
Morris
Astbury
Hunt
Why are you shocked :gotigers
Your definition of long term sounds like my definition of short term
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Yeah but dud years are kind of like dog years Chucky....f.e. 2 more Hampsud years is like an eternity...
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Will be shocked if we re-sign this bloke.
Another unaccountable passenger on the list just enjoying his pay packet and hoping he's never asked to earn it.
We gave new deals long term to
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
Maric
Morris
Astbury
Hunt
Why are you shocked :gotigers
At least after round 13 when Halfwit is sacked and Blake takes over we will have a pretty good reserves side with all of these recent signings playing back there. Everyone of them is below AFL standard IMO of a decent side.
I only hope pick 6 is a kid and getting a game along with Rioli, Menadue, Short, George, Moore and Markov.
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Yeah but dud years are kind of like dog years Chucky....f.e. 2 more Hampsud years is like an eternity...
You have that right
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Will be shocked if we re-sign this bloke.
Another unaccountable passenger on the list just enjoying his pay packet and hoping he's never asked to earn it.
We gave new deals long term to
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
Maric
Morris
Astbury
Hunt
Why are you shocked :gotigers
It's easy money for these duds. Who is going to make them work harder? A dud coach, a female American useless president who uses words like my club or tailgate.
Job for mates this joint and a job for free loaders
Shane Edwards a 200 game player. :gotigers :gotigers
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Blame sounded like conca re sign imminent.
Sack the fat duck
Balme saiys alot on KBs show and I've lost count of how many times he's say one thing and the total opposite has happened.
He gives Kb answers to shut him up
As i said he says alot but doesn't actually say much at all. Just like a politician
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Sounds like a lazy fat bastard
FHO.
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Hey Conca
Got more possessions, tackles than Heppell this year :shh
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Hey Conca
Got more possessions, tackles than Heppell this year :shh
So did Mabir Chol.
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Hey Conca
Got more possessions, tackles than Heppell this year :shh
barely
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Hey Conca
Got more possessions, tackles than Heppell this year :shh
So did Mabir Chol.
:lol
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Does anyone know who is still out of contract for next year?
Batchelor?
A. Moore?
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Does anyone know who is still out of contract for next year?
Batchelor?
A. Moore?
Not for long based on our last few weeks..
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Does anyone know who is still out of contract for next year?
Batchelor?
A. Moore?
Out of contract: Batchelor, Butler, Conca, Lambert, A.Moore, Vickery
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22895.msg515679#msg515679
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Does anyone know who is still out of contract for next year?
Batchelor?
A. Moore?
Out of contract: Batchelor, Butler, Conca, Lambert, A.Moore, Vickery
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22895.msg515679#msg515679
Even if we got rid of all of those remaining, it's hardly making much difference to our list. All were playing in the twos at the end of this year.
We are going into 2017 with Prestia for pick 6 :wallywink and Vickery gone for pick 25/30 odd.
Wowee!! Nailed it.
And best of all Halfwit for 2 more long years.... but we did get Leo's back. :sleep
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Next year is shaping up to be a shamble on the park.
Same coach - check.
Maric - check.
Astbury - check.
Hunt - check.
Brandon Ellis - check.
Townsend - check.
Morris - check
#1 for ave turnovers in the afl 2016 (Houli) - check.
Injured Deledio playing 8 games or less - almost locked and loaded.
Conca - almost locked and loaded.
Yarran jogging laps - Check
Griffiths averaging 0.8 goals a game - locked and loaded.
Elton our back up fwd - check.
Same recruiters in place to top up with your Conca and Cleve Hughes Versions 2.0 - check.
Only at Richmond.
L M F A O
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how can we go wrong ?
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how can we go wrong ?
Especially when Balme is only responsible for the poor decisions of his underlings 2 years down the track. No proactive direction an management apparently.
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B Ellis. Astbury. Hunt.
Houli. Elton. Bachelor.
Grigg. Conca. Yarren.
Edwards. Griffiths. Prestia.
Hampson. Vickery. Marley Williams.
Maric. Townsend. Moore.
Motlop pick 64 pick 84 pick 107
:shh
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From twiiter
@AFLTradw
Reports emerging of a potential trade between Richmond and Sydney, Reece Conca for Toby Nankervis. We'll keep you updated. #AFLTrades
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From twiiter
@AFLTradw
Reports emerging of a potential trade between Richmond and Sydney, Reece Conca for Toby Nankervis. We'll keep you updated. #AFLTrades
He'd be really good at Sydney if his body held up
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What we should be offering is 6 and Conca for Mitchell. Straight up
Can find the quality of nankervis in the vfl
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What we should be offering is 6 and Conca for Mitchell. Straight up
Can find the quality of nankervis in the vfl
:clapping
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What we should be offering is 6 and Conca for Mitchell. Straight up
Can find the quality of nankervis in the vfl
OK , what ruckman in the VFL is the equivalent of Toby Nankervis ?
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What we should be offering is 6 and Conca for Mitchell. Straight up
Can find the quality of nankervis in the vfl
OK , what ruckman in the VFL is the equivalent of Toby Nankervis ?
None :shh
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2013-11-25/swanstv-in-profile-toby-nankervis
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From twiiter
@AFLTradw
Reports emerging of a potential trade between Richmond and Sydney, Reece Conca for Toby Nankervis. We'll keep you updated. #AFLTrades
I know it's only a rumour but we could potentially be trading a pick 6 from 4 or 5 years ago for a 3 or 4 choice ruckman from Sydney?
RFC at rock bottom.
I know Conca is average but surely we can do better than that??
Like FH said, package him up for a decent player. It's a win win win for us- lose Conca and maybe Beliis for Mitchell and keep pick 6.
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
It's our own fault. You can't argue with that.
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
It's our own fault. You can't argue with that.
Of course. I mean u have Blair Hartley and dimwit trying to convince you to switch. Come on
It's the only reason why we get ur yarran and Motlop types and occasionally a b grader in Prestia
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
It's our own fault. You can't argue with that.
Of course. I mean u have Blair Hartley and dimwit trying to convince you to switch.
I could tell you blokes a story about the time dimwit interviewed cale hooker about coming to richmond...
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Do tell.....love stories.
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Me too!
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
It's our own fault. You can't argue with that.
Of course. I mean u have Blair Hartley and dimwit trying to convince you to switch.
I could tell you blokes a story about the time dimwit interviewed cale hooker about coming to richmond...
I'm all ears and ready for a good laugh.
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Time to put up or pipe up
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It's a good story. Makes me ashamed of following this club too. >:(
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Next year is shaping up to be a shamble on the park.
Same coach - check.
Maric - check.
Astbury - check.
Hunt - check.
Brandon Ellis - check.
Townsend - check.
Morris - check
#1 for ave turnovers in the afl 2016 (Houli) - check.
Injured Deledio playing 8 games or less - almost locked and loaded.
Conca - almost locked and loaded.
Yarran jogging laps - Check
Griffiths averaging 0.8 goals a game - locked and loaded.
Elton our back up fwd - check.
Same recruiters in place to top up with your Conca and Cleve Hughes Versions 2.0 - check.
Only at Richmond.
L M F A O
:lol :rollin :lol
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Mitchell to sign with the Hawks BT
stuff those blokes get the lot
It's our own fault. You can't argue with that.
Of course. I mean u have Blair Hartley and dimwit trying to convince you to switch.
I could tell you blokes a story about the time dimwit interviewed cale hooker about coming to richmond...
Yes pleez
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Dan the Man just confirmed on Trade Radio that we've offered Fatboy a two year deal.... :facepalm
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Dan the Man just confirmed on Trade Radio that we've offered Fatboy a two year deal.... :facepalm
Giddy up
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Dan the Man just confirmed on Trade Radio that we've offered Fatboy a two year deal.... :facepalm
(https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/jean-claude-van-damme-gifs-1.gif?w=750)
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Dan the Man just confirmed on Trade Radio that we've offered Fatboy a two year deal.... :facepalm
(https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/jean-claude-van-damme-gifs-1.gif?w=750)
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
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Nobody wants him...... :banghead
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Unbelievable.
Pick 6 and Conca for Mitchell would be great. We should just offer it to them knowing Hawks will have a hard time matching, then see if Mitchell is prepared to play for us if Sydney will only negotiate with us because our deal is better.
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Unbelievable.
Pick 6 and Conca for Mitchell would be great. We should just offer it to them knowing Hawks will have a hard time matching, then see if Mitchell is prepared to play for us if Sydney will only negotiate with us because our deal is better.
Exactly.
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Unbelievable.
Pick 6 and Conca for Mitchell would be great. We should just offer it to them knowing Hawks will have a hard time matching, then see if Mitchell is prepared to play for us if Sydney will only negotiate with us because our deal is better.
Yep, put the offer in and watch Hawks squirm and then see Mitchell re-sign with Sydney when the fear of playing for Richmond kicks in
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Unbelievable.
Pick 6 and Conca for Mitchell would be great. We should just offer it to them knowing Hawks will have a hard time matching, then see if Mitchell is prepared to play for us if Sydney will only negotiate with us because our deal is better.
None of us really know what goes on behind closed doors but you would hope that our club would try this stuff. Why not? Surely that is a better deal than what the Hawks are offering.
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:clapping happy with his new 2 year contract.
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(http://media0.giphy.com/media/ZwxN341b8glIA/giphy.gif)
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unreal cant believe they signed him for another 2 years
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(http://media0.giphy.com/media/ZwxN341b8glIA/giphy.gif)
:lol
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Continuing the Coughlan/Foley tradition - minus the talent and couple of good seasons before the injuries..... :clapping
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:clapping happy with his new 2 year contract.
Obviously didn't get the hint to take the trade ::)
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:clapping happy with his new 2 year contract.
Obviously didn't get the hint to take the trade ::)
:snidegrin
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2 years on a player who rarely plays the year. Must have put some straining wire on his hamstrings. New method :lol
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(https://thingsthatmadeanimpression.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/picture-blackknight_montypythongrail.jpg)
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Fat, untalented Dog.
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Hope he makes us all eat our words (but I doubt it).
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Hope he makes us all eat our words (but I doubt it).
He will eat our words....with salt
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
:snidegrin
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
Wow he's worse than pick 46 sheeit. From 9 to 46+ in 5 years and 100 games.
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Even worse that that - he was actually pick 6....
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
Wow he's worse than pick 46 sheeit. From 9 to 46+ in 5 years and 100 games.
From the caddy-Prestia draft too
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
Wow he's worse than pick 46 sheeit. From 9 to 46+ in 5 years and 100 games.
From the caddy-Prestia draft too
Omfg that's an indictment on FJ. Thank god he's going.
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1 6 Reece Conca Perth WAFL Richmond
1 7 Josh Caddy Northern Knights TAC Cup Gold Coast
1 8 Dyson Heppell Gippsland Power TAC Cup Essendon
1 9 Dion Prestia Calder Cannons TAC Cup Gold Coast
1 10 Daniel Gorringe Norwood SANFL Gold Coast
1 11 Thomas Lynch Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Gold Coast
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Could have had Caddy (maybe), Prestia and Lynch all from that draft :shh
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Another classic signing.
Groundhog Day at the RFC.
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
Wow he's worse than pick 46 sheeit. From 9 to 46+ in 5 years and 100 games.
From the caddy-Prestia draft too
Omfg that's an indictment on FJ. Thank god he's going.
Going? His there one level down and not going anywhere
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Would rather just delist the fat little list-clogger.....but regardless, why wasn't it at least just a one-year deal....what -were we worried he was going to walk? No-one wanted the useless prick.....what is it with us and handing out multiple-year deals to duds who've shown nothing?
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Would rather just delist the fat little list-clogger.....but regardless, why wasn't it at least just a one-year deal....what -were we worried he was going to walk? No-one wanted the useless prick.....what is it with us and handing out multiple-year deals to duds who've shown nothing?
Agree re length of deal
Club stuffed up here
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Would rather just delist the fat little list-clogger.....but regardless, why wasn't it at least just a one-year deal....what -were we worried he was going to walk? No-one wanted the useless prick.....what is it with us and handing out multiple-year deals to duds who've shown nothing?
100% agree- where the f&@k was he going if it was only a 1 year deal. Give him another next year if he does well this year. Pretty simple
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Hope he makes us all eat our words (but I doubt it).
He will eat our words....with salt
Sometimes, you are just a funny pR1[k
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Word is that KFConca has blown out again
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Would rather just delist the fat little list-clogger.....but regardless, why wasn't it at least just a one-year deal....what -were we worried he was going to walk? No-one wanted the useless prick.....what is it with us and handing out multiple-year deals to duds who've shown nothing?
Agree re length of deal
Club stuffed up here
Nah.
We fire blokes but let the know there's job here for them if they can't get on anywhere else.
It's the PeggyBennyDimmer way
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Would rather just delist the fat little list-clogger.....but regardless, why wasn't it at least just a one-year deal....what -were we worried he was going to walk? No-one wanted the useless prick.....what is it with us and handing out multiple-year deals to duds who've shown nothing?
I think they thought two years would make him want to agree to a trade more than a one year deal would... somehow
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Reece Conca. The guy who Sydney knocked back for Richmond's Pick 46 to get Nankervis.
Wow he's worse than pick 46 sheeit. From 9 to 46+ in 5 years and 100 games.
From the caddy-Prestia draft too
Omfg that's an indictment on FJ. Thank god he's going.
Going? His there one level down and not going anywhere
Isn't he becoming a part time forward scout? Almost out the door but not quite.
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Woah FJ the forward scout......can't wait for him to unearth the next Post or Gourdis....... :clapping
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Woah FJ the forward scout......can't wait for him to unearth the next Post or Gourdis....... :clapping
Is all over Cleve Hughes' brother Randy, who has the same ability but is slower and has knee issues.
Bonuses for all involved :clapping
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Woah FJ the forward scout......can't wait for him to unearth the next Post or Gourdis....... :clapping
Is all over Cleve Hughes' brother Randy, who has the same ability but is slower and has knee issues.
Bonuses for all involved :clapping
Classic. No matter how people boast the club is changing things will always be the same with idiots like Jackson floating around
Reece 2 years. Anyone surprised?
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The club tried to trade him but nobody wanted him. Even he was open to going.
In the end the club probably thought if he keeps himself fit, he is better than what we'd get with pick 100+ and so signed him on.
The indictment on the club here is that a former pick 6 could not be traded for even a packet of chips.
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Exactly Y&B so if you know people at the club please ask them this
Why has JACKSON still got a job??
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Swans preferred pick 46 to this nugget.. and yet we re-sign him for 2. Years?? :lol
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Conca >. Grigg
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Will do a hammy during the pre season, it's practically guaranteed
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Will eat several hammyburgers during the pre season, it's practically guaranteed
EFA
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to all those who continually come up with the lame duck excuse of oh he is better to keep than take a kid with pick 100. This menatality is absolutely killing the club.
Why did we not go to the Dockers and offer them pick 80 odd to get Barlow enabling us to cut this cancerous piece of poo out of our club.
The concas griggs houlis edwards morris types should be the first to go and the many reasons for doing this are so obvious but hey there is a short term price to pay f you do it.
Why is it so many never ever learn from what has gone before.
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Do we want to change our culture or not.
You cant change the culture by hanging onto yr on end what drags us down
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Culture won't begin to change until the old board is gone, if not just for the sake of new beginnings.
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If no one was interested. Is there any reason why we give our players 2 year contracts?
Other clubs have good players on one year contracts who fight for the right to stay on the list and perform.
Culture of stability is no better than a culture of mediocrity
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I think it's because he will be like a new recruit, new recruits get 2 year contracts
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If no one was interested. Is there any reason why we give our players 2 year contracts?
Other clubs have good players on one year contracts who fight for the right to stay on the list and perform.
Culture of stability is no better than a culture of mediocrity
So we can pay him less over each season and trade him after the first and therefore save money?
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If no one was interested. Is there any reason why we give our players 2 year contracts?
Other clubs have good players on one year contracts who fight for the right to stay on the list and perform.
Culture of stability is no better than a culture of mediocrity
So we can pay him less over each season and trade him after the first and therefore save money?
Perhaps, but given he has done nothing for a number of seasons his income should be refective of that and his trade value right now is clearly zero as he is still at the club
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Got 2 more years
Kissing Dimmas butt
Just got injured
At Pizza hut
Reece Conca (clap clap clap)
Reece Conca (clap clap clap)
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Can we nominate Conca No 1 whipping boy for 2107
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Can we nominate Conca No 1 whipping boy for 2107
.....................yes
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Can we nominate Conca No 1 whipping boy for 2107
Don't think even we'd keep a bloke on out list for another 90 years Chucky....
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Can we nominate Conca No 1 whipping boy for 2107
Don't think even we'd keep a bloke on out list for another 90 years Chucky....
We're giving him every chance for his hammys to come good
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Would love it if pasta boy turns it around and buries our faces into it.
I somehow doubt it though..... :whistle
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I'd take Conca over Bellis any day.
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I'd take Conca over Bellis any day.
Hmmmmm..........
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I'd take Conca over Bellis any day.
Hmmmmm..........
I cannot stand players that want to play this game but are to scared to put their body on the line every second of every game. That is the minimum we should expect.
To add to that he plays for SuperCoach points, not willing to back his foot skills to benifit the side, preferring to kick it backwards and sideways.
I'm no fan of Conca but he is willing to crack in and even though his skills aren't elite he still is willing to take the chance of moving the footy our way, knowing that it may not come off and potentially making him look bad but has a go.
No other coach in the league would let Bellis get away with being so insipid.
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I'd take Conca over Bellis any day.
Hmmmmm..........
I cannot stand players that want to play this game but are to scared to put their body on the line every second of every game. That is the minimum we should expect.
To add to that he plays for SuperCoach points, not willing to back his foot skills to benifit the side, preferring to kick it backwards and sideways.
I'm no fan of Conca but he is willing to crack in and even though his skills aren't elite he still is willing to take the chance of moving the footy our way, knowing that it may not come off and potentially making him look bad but has a go.
No other coach in the league would let Bellis get away with being so insipid.
Yes. But, theres also nothing brave about hitting opposition players in the back of the head and all of eating your team mates energy bars
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I like it when we hit opposition players especially when they're not looking. Just like Hawthorn of Olde and Lethal
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I'd take Conca over Bellis any day.
Hmmmmm..........
I cannot stand players that want to play this game but are to scared to put their body on the line every second of every game. That is the minimum we should expect.
To add to that he plays for SuperCoach points, not willing to back his foot skills to benifit the side, preferring to kick it backwards and sideways.
I'm no fan of Conca but he is willing to crack in and even though his skills aren't elite he still is willing to take the chance of moving the footy our way, knowing that it may not come off and potentially making him look bad but has a go.
No other coach in the league would let Bellis get away with being so insipid.
Yes. But, theres also nothing brave about hitting opposition players in the back of the head and all of eating your team mates energy bars
Still going on about this.....is Rance brave? Did a similar thing to that Melbourne spud. Time to move on....
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As long as he isn't smashing 2 family pizzas and a kilo of slag Bol a day.
Be nice if he comes back fit for a change.
His poor hammies get ripped pushing a fat arse around
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What's wrong with this picture .....
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Yes. But, theres also nothing brave about hitting opposition players in the back of the head and all of eating your team mates energy bars
Still going on about this.....is Rance brave? Did a similar thing to that Melbourne spud. Time to move on....
Oh no Machine, you've got it wrong. That one was Dimma's fault
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So how is this bloke travelling? Not a complete preseason without hearing about him pinging a hammy.
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Choco Williams talking about Reece on SEN yesterday:
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The 2004 Port Adelaide premiership coach also put the acid on former top 10 draft pick Reece Conca.
After playing nine games in the past two seasons due to persistent groin injuries, the 24-year-old faces a career-defining season.
“Mentally Reece needs to suck it up a bit and be able to push himself through because he could be a really great player and he’s got one year to show it,” Williams said.
“They (Richmond) can’t wait any longer.
“He doesn’t want to be on a scrapheap where nobody wants him, but it’s up to him."
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02/20/Riewoldt-must-straighten-up:%20Williams/
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IMO quite limited and wihatever he can produce when that day comes where he is playing to his potential is going to be added to the been there done that list at tigerland, in terms of hacks picked up by Francis Hackson
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Waste of a pick, the RFC won't go anywhere with this bloke.
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I think Reece was ok tonight without being great.
I recon if he just new his limitations he could be a valuable "roll player" but it's when he tries to be a bit fancy that's when he turns it over.
He needs to be the hardest worker out there and create real pressure with his attack on the footy and the player with the footy, then when he does get it he needs to give it first go and to someone who is more compident using the pill.
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Still shyte....
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I think Reece was ok tonight without being great.
I recon if he just new his limitations he could be a valuable "roll player" but it's when he tries to be a bit fancy that's when he turns it over.
He needs to be the hardest worker out there and create real pressure with his attack on the footy and the player with the footy, then when he does get it he needs to give it first go and to someone who is more compident using the pill.
in other words the type of player all clubs are looking for at pick 6 :banghead
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I just don't think he is the most precise kick in the side, so it surprised me with him taking the kickouts. I must admit, I had my heart in my mouth every time he kicked it out too.....
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I just don't think he is the most precise kick in the side, so it surprised me with him taking the kickouts. I must admit, I had my heart in my mouth every time he kicked it out too.....
wait until the real stuff begins thats going to be comedy gold.
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Shyte doesn't even begin to describe how average this bloke is as a footballer.
Always looks like he is rushed and it's only a wizard cup game.
Look forward to watching his antics this year
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it's only a wizard cup game.
:lol
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Continuity the key for Conca
Tony Greenberg,
richmondfc.com.au
March 6, 2017 3:21 PM
It’s a case of so far, so good for talented Tiger Reece Conca, in his quest for some long-awaited continuity with his football.
Conca has been ravaged by injury throughout the past couple of seasons, managing just nine senior appearances in that time.
But, with a solid pre-season behind him, and impressive signs as a small defender during the JLT Community Series to date, Conca’s fortunes may, hopefully, be turning.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick particularly liked what he saw from Conca in the Tigers’ 28-point win against Port Adelaide at Mt Gambier yesterday.
Conca read the play well, picked up 15 disposals, took four marks, and set up quite a few attacking moves for the team out of the defensive half.
“Reece, down back, I thought was terrific,” Hardwick said.
“His ability to compete, find the ball, win possession-gains, then distribute, has been really pleasing.”
www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-03-06/continuity-the-key-for-conca
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His attack on the contest and ball has been good but Geez Geez he sprays his kicks
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His attack on the contest and ball has been good but Geez Geez he sprays his kicks
its the qualities that go hand in hand with your everyday garden variety pick 6
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His kicking is getting worse. It not up to AFL standard at the minute.
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His kicking is getting worse. It not up to AFL standard at the minute.
I actually think that his kicking is the same. It is just highlighted more in the back half of the ground.
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Finally had his injury free preseason, unfortunately going by the two practice matches I see no improvement or benefit whatsoever.
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His kicking is getting worse. It not up to AFL standard at the minute.
Yep
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His kicking is getting worse. It not up to AFL standard at the minute.
I actually think that his kicking is the same. It is just highlighted more in the back half of the ground.
That's why Cas has gone forward :shh
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What makes anyone think, that a guy who has been a shitman his whole career (and still managing games at the rfc) is NOW going to discover a new gear :rollin
stuffn Greenberg - STFU !
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What makes anyone think, that a guy who has been a pooman his whole career (and still managing games at the rfc) is NOW going to discover a new gear :rollin
stuffn Greenberg - STFU !
A new gear - reverse
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What makes anyone think, that a guy who has been a pooman his whole career (and still managing games at the rfc) is NOW going to discover a new gear :rollin
stuffn Greenberg - STFU !
A new gear - reverse
No you are thinking of B Ellis
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I reckon he's gone up a cog - looks fitter, he's attack in the ball has been good but his decision makai g and disposal aren't good enough. At his age, it's hard to see this ever improving
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Dud.
Delist.
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Best game for the club so far....gained a lot of metres, kept the stupidity to a minimum....was only Carlton & still extremely sceptical but pleasently surprised....barring more injuries- which is a big if in his case- still might become a handy depth player yet..... :shh
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Solid again, fast becoming a vital cog :o
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Solid again, fast becoming a vital cog :o
Absolutely
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Solid again, fast becoming a vital cog :o
Absolutely
Making some people look very stupid
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Oxy-moron
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Becoming a General down back.
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Was massive in about 4-5 contests in the final qtr. Has been brilliant the past few weeks
Go on and prove us all wrong concs
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Conche nose is getting better with each game and provides some grunt
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Fantastic Reece Conca
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He is playing like a footballer should. Consistently. Only taken 5 years.
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His defensive work (aerial contest, tackling, harassing) is excellent. Love his physicality as well.
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I've always been a closet Conca fan - wonderful to see him contribute like he has so far in 2017
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Has always had the ability just not the opportunity because of constant injury.
Can play :thumbsup
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I've always been a closet Conca fan - wonderful to see him contribute like he has so far in 2017
Nice to see you out of the closet Mat. You'd be farting rainbows this morning
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Love it when a player makes me eat my words!
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Moron
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Conditions suited him....
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Played a good game. The last goal of the game was set up by his clever underground handpass in a difficult situation.
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Bloke has been great all year.
Am eating my hat, and thrilled about it.
Hope he stays injury-free and keeps this up all year!
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Frozen in time: Who has failed to develop at your club?
By Ben Casanelia
SEN
22 June 2017
Every club houses a player whose career has not unfolded as expected after a bright start or top draft billing.
We take a look at one from all 18 clubs that has failed to live up to expectation so far...
RICHMOND
Reece Conca
Started this year in fine fashion but on the full body of work four good games does not make a career that for the most part has spluttered after the Tigers made the Western Australian the sixth overall selection at the 2010 national draft.
Had his mental toughness questioned by former development coach Mark Williams after a litany of hamstring injuries thwarted the 181cm Tiger’s attempts to get his career started. But even when fit and firing exactly where does Conca fit in?
Is tough and works hard, which is good in leagues with half-time oranges and post-game certificates.
In the AFL, players are generally in trouble when coaches start talking about how hard they played. Still has time to produce but right now stands in a group of players taken at recent drafts that produced too many excuses and not enough players.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/06/22/frozen-in-time-who-has-failed-to-develop-at-your-club/
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Who's this clown, telling us what we've known for years ?
Can't even write
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Geez he had plenty of choices. Would have thought Griffiths would fit the criteria of the headline better than anyone though.
Who has failed to develop at your club fmd it would take a week to explain it all.
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Can Reece Conca force his way in for round one?
The Tigers have loved Conca's work off half-back this pre-season and Hardwick is expecting the 25-year-old to have a good year if he can stay injury free. If he gets off to the right start in the JLT Community Series, look for him as a replacement for suspended defender Nathan Broad in the early rounds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-21/burning-questions-for-the-jlt-series
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Can Reece Conca force his way in for round one?
The Tigers have loved Conca's work off half-back this pre-season and Hardwick is expecting the 25-year-old to have a good year if he can stay injury free. If he gets off to the right start in the JLT Community Series, look for him as a replacement for suspended defender Nathan Broad in the early rounds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-21/burning-questions-for-the-jlt-series
Menadue first crack for mine but would not be unhappy with this...most will not agree :snidegrin
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Very solid :clapping
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Hardwick also indicated that unlucky veteran Reece Conca was in line to take Broad's spot after an impressive pre-season.
"Reece Conca was very good today," Hardwick said.
"[He] showed us that when he plays he is a very valuable player."
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/bring-the-heat-if-you-want-to-play-for-richmond-says-hardwick-20180224-p4z1m1.html
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Ball use is still a issue.
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Yep, shocking ball drop. Is good in most other areas though.
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Can Concas body hold up past round 5 ??
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Yep, shocking ball drop. Is good in most other areas though.
Can anyone confirm if watches the ball drop?
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Looks good at times.... until he has to get rid of it or make a decision...hopefully we 'll finally make the decision to get rid of him at season's end...
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Ball use is still a issue.
Yep
Decision making at times is poor too.
But the kicking is hit and miss, more miss that hit
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For those putting the knives into Reece how may targets did he miss yesterday?
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For those putting the knives into Reece how may targets did he miss yesterday?
Final qtr, kicked to a one on one contest inside our F50, kicked favoured the Ess player
That's a miss in my book
2nd qtr on the broadcast side kick in air in hope, a nothing kick. Again that sort of stuff is a miss
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Probably the biggest issue with him is his decision making/disposal. He is also judged more harshly because he was a pick 6. Does not have anywhere near the polish of a pick 6. I know it's not his fault he was selected there but he was. Is now a reasonable depth player IMHO but that's all.
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OMG every player playing misses targets every game. He does miss a few but his good general play outweighs his errors. I like the kid :thumbsup
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Two kicks???????
He puts his head over the ball is composed in traffic and hits most of his targets.
He must be a spud unlike Houli who hits every target (not) puts his head over the ball (sometimes) And is composed in tight situations (sometimes)
Houli is a flawed player but his positives far outweigh the negatives so he contributes to the team.
Conca was in our best 6 every week last season until his foot was stomped on so how about loosing the bias and judging him fairly.
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Is now a reasonable depth player IMHO but that's all.
This is where I think he sits, and he would know that.
But he is going to be a very useful depth player if, and it is a big if, his body can stand up to the rigours of AFL football.
We often identify the lack of a second tall forward or another ruckman as being weaknesses in our list, but realistically, we aren't exactly wallowing in quality midfield back-ups.
For all his knocks, I think Conca is a lot more versatile as a depth player than a number of our other depth midfielders (I am talking guys like Miles, Lloyd, Menadue, and Corey Ellis as opposed to the younger players coming through). And his defensive game is better than any mid on our list not currently playing AFL regularly.
I know there are some who have him tagged as a half back flanker type, and he looks pretty comfortable in that role for sure, but I think he can midfield if required to do so.
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OMG every player playing misses targets every game. He does miss a few but his good general play outweighs his errors. I like the kid :thumbsup
Sorry for trying to discuss strengths and weaknesses.
He has no flaws. He’s the perfect player.
You ok now?
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Discussing flaws is fine Willy but lets keep it in perspective.
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Discussing flaws is fine Willy but lets keep it in perspective.
I gave a couple of examples, i thought that's what you wanted :huh3
Could give more if you want.
I was at the game and i wasnt the only thinking about his disposal and decision making. As a bloke behind me said "it's heart in mouth stuff with Conca", and I agree.
It's all about opinions, we all have 'em and we're all entitled to 'em and we don't all have to agree with 'em
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OMG every player playing misses targets every game. He does miss a few but his good general play outweighs his errors. I like the kid :thumbsup
You've got tht arse about - for every good thing he does about three bad things.
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Can anyone confirm if Reece Conca's relatives post on here if not I will put the Conca love down to Premiership hangover that will dissipate when we lose a close one and he has a crucial shocking turnover.
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I remember him playing well early last season. Let's see if he can perform with our new game plan (as in not pre-2017 style). I think it'll suit him as he seems to stuff up with the more time he has
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2nd qtr on the broadcast side kick in air in hope, a nothing kick. Again that sort of stuff is a miss
You mean when he looked up and kicked it to a 2 on 1 in our favour and Dusty marked it?
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Discussing flaws is fine Willy but lets keep it in perspective.
I gave a couple of examples, i thought that's what you wanted :huh3
Could give more if you want.
I was at the game and i wasnt the only thinking about his disposal and decision making. As a bloke behind me said "it's heart in mouth stuff with Conca", and I agree.
It's all about opinions, we all have 'em and we're all entitled to 'em and we don't all have to agree with 'em
You got it right WP there were two poor kicks the rest either hit the target or went to our advantage.
If you are able to watch the replay have a look at Houli in comparison, Conca out performed Houli on the day including his disposal.
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OMG every player playing misses targets every game. He does miss a few but his good general play outweighs his errors. I like the kid :thumbsup
Sorry for trying to discuss strengths and weaknesses.
He has no flaws. He’s the perfect player.
You ok now?
I am now thanks for reaching out. Should Conca play I prefer him as a mid rather than playing in the back half. I would like Menadue to play for Broad but happy for Conca to play as I rate him as a senior AFL standard player.
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Discussing flaws is fine Willy but lets keep it in perspective.
I gave a couple of examples, i thought that's what you wanted :huh3
Could give more if you want.
I was at the game and i wasnt the only thinking about his disposal and decision making. As a bloke behind me said "it's heart in mouth stuff with Conca", and I agree.
It's all about opinions, we all have 'em and we're all entitled to 'em and we don't all have to agree with 'em
You got it right WP there were two poor kicks the rest either hit the target or went to our advantage.
If you are able to watch the replay have a look at Houli in comparison, Conca out performed Houli on the day including his disposal.
I'm sure we'd all of ease off Conca too in a practice match if he came close to winning the Norm Smith in his previous appearance.....:whistle
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Richmond coach Damien Hardwick rated Conca’s performance highly.
“I thought Reece Conca was very good today,” Hardwick said at his post-match press conference.
“He showed us that when he plays he’s a really valuable player.
“He’s had an injury history that’s probably hampered his development somewhat, but we’re really confident that when he gets on the park he’s a really good player for us.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-02-26/conca-knocking-on-selection-door
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C'mon Damien don't start spoiling it now......
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Personally i thought he did pretty well on the weekend, thought he was good in AFLX as well. Don't worry if he stuffs up he's going to get found out pretty bloody quickly.
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Discussing flaws is fine Willy but lets keep it in perspective.
I gave a couple of examples, i thought that's what you wanted :huh3
Could give more if you want.
I was at the game and i wasnt the only thinking about his disposal and decision making. As a bloke behind me said "it's heart in mouth stuff with Conca", and I agree.
It's all about opinions, we all have 'em and we're all entitled to 'em and we don't all have to agree with 'em
You got it right WP there were two poor kicks the rest either hit the target or went to our advantage.
If you are able to watch the replay have a look at Houli in comparison, Conca out performed Houli on the day including his disposal.
I'm sure we'd all of ease off Conca too in a practice match if he came close to winning the Norm Smith in his previous appearance.....:whistle
Surely you jest???????????
If a player can come close to winning the Norm Smith and then dish up that performance the next match and you are ok with that?
This is a new season if you are fine with players resting on their laurels based on last years achievements' like the Bulldogs did you are setting the bar very low.
The other Premiership players delivered on the day.
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Houli was being managed. Only played one half. Cannot make comments on the guy yet.
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Exactly - and if Houli returns to his pre-finals ways when the real stuff starts then I'll start being concerned, but yeah blokes who stood up when sheep stations were on the line get a bit of leeway clearing out the cobwebs in the first practice match of the year.
Conca on the other hand has proven nothing so far apart fron the ability to turn the ball over at crucial times, give away frees, kill momentum, get suspended and injure himself at regular intervals. Blokes like him need to start showing something in the pre-season. Good evasive skills and hardness at the ball he has always had but he conistently undermines those attributes with the above stated flaws and I saw nothing new nor improved from him on Saturday.
Can he turn it around? Well if Houli can nearly win the Norm Smith, Edwards can be top 3, the likes of Grigg & BEllis can stand up in three consecutive finals and Townsend can come from the verge of delistment to play an important role in a flag then then anything's possible I guess but for now, talking up yet another mediocre effort from a list-clogger is the very definition of setting the bar low.
p.s. I agree with The Machine that if he plays it should be in the guts.
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Im still a Conca believer. He was tracking so well in 2013 and injuries have cruelled his career ever since. In a way I admire his resolve to be going at it with the same ambition 5 years later.
As we've mentioned; there are so many we had huge doubts on that have come good, even great. Houli, Rance, Astbury, Townsend? Even guys like Vlastuin and Edwards I felt at stages might not make it.
He played a very decent game on Saturday. A bit messy by foot, but we tend to remember the bad before the good. He also hit up a lot of targets and put it to pur advantage more often than not. I actually think he reads the play as well as anyone on our list and can break lines; for that reason I would say his ceiling is much higher than a guy like Short; who I really like.
With Broad out theres a spot up for grabs in that backline, good luck Reece! :gotigers
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Can't see him improving too much, but hey Dimma must know something we don't or else, why is he still around?
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Played he best game for some time in the only position he can play...mid :clapping
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He linked up well today and was solid overall, despite the customary momentum killing misskicks.
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Played he best game for some time in the only position he can play...mid :clapping
I agree.
I must admit I was surprised to see so many kicks and handballs hit targets and actually moved well up the ground to follow the play.
He must of had a good learning pre-season or something.
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Yeah his usual crap plays to good plays ratio goes from 3-1 all the way down to 2-1 when he plays in guts.... woopdeestuffindoo.....:clapping
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Yeah his usual crap plays to good plays ratio goes from 3-1 all the way down to 2-1 when he plays in guts.... woopdeestuffindoo.....:clapping
plays his role, would be leading B&F just about :shh
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Yeah his usual crap plays to good plays ratio goes from 3-1 all the way down to 2-1 when he plays in guts.... woopdeestuffindoo.....:clapping
loved his fist quarter shank which led to a hawks goal iirc
typical conca game.
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Yeah his usual crap plays to good plays ratio goes from 3-1 all the way down to 2-1 when he plays in guts.... woopdeestuffindoo.....:clapping
plays his role, would be leading B&F just about :shh
Didn't realise "momentum killer" waa an officially designated role.....in which case he'd be lapping the field at this stage....and hey, if Daniel Jackson can win it.... :shh
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:shh
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Yeah his usual crap plays to good plays ratio goes from 3-1 all the way down to 2-1 when he plays in guts.... woopdeestuffindoo.....:clapping
loved his fist quarter shank which led to a hawks goal iirc
typical conca game.
Not the only one to shank kicks :whistle
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He was OK, got better as the game went on
But gee those momentum killing kicks :banghead
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I’d hoped we’ve moved past him as a team and players like him but he’s still there, like an annoying cold sore that just keeps on appearing.
Would like to see the next wave play instead of him. Players like Menadue and Markov. If you need an inside mid then I’d rather see Miles or C Ellis play instead of him.
That said he was woeful early but was ok as the game progressed but his kicking needs a lot of work.
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Man we need meatballs back soon as
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Man we need meatballs back soon as
x2
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pains me to say but he was good today
conditions suit his tardiness
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pains me to say but he was good today
conditions suit his tardiness
:yep
:help
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Probably his best game for us. This now has to be the minimum output.
Elite evasive skills but his decision making and disposal have been poor. The latter were better today.
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Wait until he plays a side that tackles and pressures
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Reeca Conca value to the Tigers, 2.4 goals per game.
Jack Higgins value to the Tigers, 3.2 goals per game.
I would have thought the selection process was a fairly simple one.
(Those figures are my own ratings, simply cos I believe so and because I like Higgins so much more :thumbsup).
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Reece can play and play at a decent level :thumbsup
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Don’t like him.
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Wait until he plays a side that tackles and pressures
This, but good signs.
He had a selfish play as well when he went to snap on the left at goals instead of looking inboard. Copped a spray from jack
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Don’t like him.
That's ok...I don't like Grigg but he can also play good footy.
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From Robbo's 'likes' column today:
REECE CONCA
The comebacks continue. Conca has played three, six and six games in the previous three seasons because of injury and form. He has played all four games this season. Against Brisbane it was his most ranking points (112) and disposals (26) in a game since Round 7, 2014. He has become a centre-square player for the Tigers in the past two weeks. Conca has attended 36 centre bounces the past two weeks against Hawthorn and Brisbane, equal second most with Dusty Martin and behind skipper Trent Cotchin.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/essendon-heads-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-for-round-4-of-the-afl-season/news-story/e5c828c6175ff85e0fd606dbcc898f88
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Well if Slobbo says so....
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I thought he was in our best on Saturday, from where I was watching in row B on the interchange wing...
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He showed up again tonight.
21 touches (12 contested) and 9 tackles. Some might not like him, and his disposal could still do with some improvement, but he is giving it a damn good shake at the moment.
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Getting better but still lacks real footy smarts, dinky handballs to guys under pressure and blindly bombing it long is the biggest knock on him still.
Just needs to get a bit more composure in his game and he might turn out ok!
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Surprising good tonight, might be ok but I suspect he will get injured again
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He’s slippery in close but as everyone else has mentioned his disposal is pretty average and a few tonight were lucky they weren’t more costly.
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Clearance work was brilliant
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Conca>Heppell
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Have not been a fan but he keeps making me look silly in the last 3 games. Might still be a keeper.
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Not shocked at all. The young man can play and ticks many boxes :clapping
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Can’t kick.
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Sensational work in close, and displaying great lateral movement. Really taking his game to a new level this year. Hope he stays fit. Well done mate.
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Have not been a fan but he keeps making me look silly in the last 3 games. Might still be a keeper.
Yeah same here. I'm glad he's become a better player.
Me thinks he may want to win one of those little medals on the last day in September :whistle :shh
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Would you trust him in a big final not to f it up?
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Would you trust him in a big final not to f it up?
I would :thumbsup I trusted Houli, Ellis and Grigg so no issues from me trusting Conca.
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Conca>Heppell
This.
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You can't fault Concas last 3 weeks ....dare I say it - been like a new recruit .
I sincerely hope his body can hold up .
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Well Conca is basically being held together by duct tape but hey I have fixed many things with a sufficient amount of duct tape
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This all reminds of when people used to applaud Hackson and his useless 25 possession games... :shh
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Surprise packet: Your club's unexpected performers
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Apr 25, 2018
It's been a long road for Reece Conca and it appears as though it's finally coming together for the former first-round draft pick. Injuries have cruelled the West Australian's career to date with his most recent complaint a foot injury that sidelined him for the majority of last year. But, after almost departing Punt Road at the end of 2016, Conca has overcome the disappointment of not being involved in the Tigers' 2017 premiership to enjoy an uninterrupted pre-season and embrace a move from half-back to the midfield. His possessions and his tackles are up, and the fact he's offered the Tigers another midfield option has allowed Dustin Martin to spend more time in attack for devastating results. It's come at the right time for Conca too, with the No.6 pick from 2010 out of contract and set to become an unrestricted free agent this year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-25/surprise-packet-your-clubs-expected-performers
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Has actually been very good in the clinches, is a clean one grab player in the guts, weirdly just seems to fumble and bumble when out in the open. Kicking is still pooful but the signs are very good and im sure as the season progresses he'll learn to play within himself so as to not butcher the ball too much
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How did we rate Conca's game v the Pies?
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How did we rate Conca's game v the Pies?
Like his career?
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How did we rate Conca's game v the Pies?
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/74763932/and-its-all-gone-quiet-over-there.jpg)
:shh
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Played his part in a good win. Not as good as previous weeks but continued with hard running and good support. Solid :shh
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Went backwards the few times he had it!
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Terrible game. I’d drop him this week.
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Apart from the excellent handball to Dusty in the last that resulted in a goal reckon it was an average game
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Apart from the excellent handball to Dusty in the last that resulted in a goal reckon it was an average game
Agree. Did not really impose himself.
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Will not be dropped. Dimma loves the guy.
Didn't rate his game but by Geez, you cannot question this boys effort. He's similar to Bellis but without the talent :shh
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Will not be dropped. Dimma loves the guy.
Didn't rate his game but by Geez, you cannot question this boys effort. He's similar to Bellis but without the talent :shh
Mate I like Brandon Ellis myself certainly more than majority on this forum but the way you’ve been going on about him the last week on various threads makes me think that you’re the man himself lol
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Will not be dropped. Dimma loves the guy.
Didn't rate his game but by Geez, you cannot question this boys effort. He's similar to Bellis but without the talent :shh
Mate I like Brandon Ellis myself certainly more than majority on this forum but the way you’ve been going on about him the last week on various threads makes me think that you’re the man himself lol
I wish I could call myself a Tiges premiership player like Brando :shh
Just got even out the negativity with some positive stuff, Khoshy :thumbsup
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Back to normal for this pretender.
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Will not be dropped. Dimma loves the guy.
Didn't rate his game but by Geez, you cannot question this boys effort. He's similar to Bellis but without the talent :shh
Mate I like Brandon Ellis myself certainly more than majority on this forum but the way you’ve been going on about him the last week on various threads makes me think that you’re the man himself lol
I wish I could call myself a Tiges premiership player like Brando :shh
Just got even out the negativity with some positive stuff, Khoshy :thumbsup
Why?
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How did we rate Conca's game v the Pies?
Down on his performances of late.
Hopefully turns it around this weekend. Bullocking mids don't grow on trees - keep it coming Reece.
P.S Lol at the AntiConca crew. Any opportunity and they come outta the woodwork.
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How did we rate Conca's game v the Pies?
Down on his performances of late.
Hopefully turns it around this weekend. Bullocking mids don't grow on trees - keep it coming Reece.
P.S Lol at the AntiConca crew. Any opportunity and they come outta the woodwork.
Cmon Dougey boy, He's hardly set the world on fire this yr. had three servicable games and the rest have been a bit like yesterday.Reckon people have been fair.Play poor and expect the critiques.
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Will not be dropped. Dimma loves the guy.
Didn't rate his game but by Geez, you cannot question this boys effort. He's similar to Bellis but without the talent :shh
Mate I like Brandon Ellis myself certainly more than majority on this forum but the way you’ve been going on about him the last week on various threads makes me think that you’re the man himself lol
I wish I could call myself a Tiges premiership player like Brando :shh
Just got even out the negativity with some positive stuff, Khoshy :thumbsup
Why?
Because I can. & because Bellis is a loyal bloke who loves the Tiges and is a premiership player. Think he deserves a bit more respect at times :)
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Conca just getting it done :clapping
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His doing a good job and thats difficult to say as its totally surprising.
Few brain fades but it happens with all of them
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Disposal is the only thing letting him down at the moment. Some of his turn overs have been pretty costly.
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(https://i.imgur.com/MufBPqL.jpg)
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Richmond’s Reece Conca fit and relishing new role
West Australian
19 May 2018
In the immediate aftermath of last year’s grand final, you couldn’t wipe the smile of Reece Conca’s face.
The hard-running midfielder wrapped his right paw firmly around a stubby of the sponsor’s product and toasted his premiership-winning teammates time and again.
However, the beaming grin masked an unavoidable sense of disappointment at missing out on Richmond’s drought-breaking flag at the end of third successive season ruined by injury.
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“I’ve been at this great club for seven years now and all I’ve ever wanted is some success,” Conca told The West Australian in the victors’ change room that day, suit and club-tie drenched in beer amid the mad celebrations, having watched the Tigers’ emotional triumph from the grandstand.
“Yeah, it’s disappointing not to be out there, but it’s just amazing. It really is.”
Eight months on, one-third of the way through the new season, Conca says he couldn’t be in a better place.
The 25-year-old is playing a new role with increased time in the midfield, where he feels best suited, after being used across half-back in recent years.
Most importantly, he is fit.
Conca has played eight consecutive games in the same season for the first time since 2013 and is free of the mental and physical setbacks that threatened his career in each of the past three years.
But Conca has been here before.
A headline in The West Australian last April screamed “Conca’s nightmare over” after he had overcome a succession of largely soft tissue injuries.
Just weeks later, his football world came crashing down again as an injury to the Lisfranc joint in his right foot put him out of the game for three months.
It ultimately robbed Conca of a spot in the premiership side as he returned at VFL level and couldn’t break into the seniors.
Is this another false dawn for the 2010 first-round draft pick? He is confident it isn’t.
“My body’s feeling fantastic and I’m training well,” Conca said ahead of tomorrow’s top-of-the-table blockbuster against West Coast at Optus Stadium.
“I’ve done a lot of stuff outside of the gym and off the field, a lot mindfulness and medication stuff, and really invested in that side of my football and my body.
“I tweaked a little bit of my weights program over the last 12-18 months and everything is feeling fantastic.
“In the previous few years I was a lot more conservative with my weights program but now I’m just smacking in, getting some heavy weights in and it’s been really good.
“I clocked up a lot of kilometres during pre-season and haven’t really missed a beat, which has been fantastic for me personally.
“I’m really enjoying my football. I love the club, my teammates, my coaches and everyone involved in the club.
“I just love playing my role and it’s really nice to be out there and playing some consistent football.”
Given his injury history, it comes as no surprise that Conca has been doing his utmost to fly under the radar this season.
But while he prefers to leave the spotlight to the likes of Brownlow Medal and premiership-winning teammates Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin, All-Australian captain Alex Rance and spearhead Jack Riewoldt, Conca has quietly gone about putting together a solid body of work as he re-establishes himself in Damien Hardwick’s first-choice line-up.
Conca is averaging career-best figures for tackles (5.6), inside-50s (3.5), contested possessions (8.1) and handballs (9.2) this season and is close to reaching his previous best levels for disposals (19.1), clearances (2.5) and goal assists (0.4).
The West Coast Eagles are eyeing off an Optus Stadium record for Sunday's top of the table clash with Richmond.
“I’m really enjoying being in more centre bounces and I’m playing more of a defensive role through the midfield, he said
“I like to work up and down the ground and get to as many contests as I can. I like to get in and under and tackle and pressure.
“I like to be that scrappy player and let the Dustins and Cotchins of the world do the old flashy stuff and kick all the goals. I love playing my role and I love the teammates around me. I’m just really enjoying myself.”
And Conca’s coach Damien Hardwick is enjoying his revival, lauding the determination of his charge and predicting a big future for him.
“The thing that hasn’t gone in his favour is durability. But it’s no coincidence that when he plays, he plays well,” Hardwick said.
“He’s a really good AFL player and we’ve been really pleased with what he’s put out thus far. He’s really only starting his career from our point of view. He’s been in our system for seven years but his last three have been wrecked by injury.
“He’s looking forward to building on that and he can certainly become a much better player than what he is now, which excites us.”
The Perth junior product was linked to a move home to WA during last October’s trade period, despite having a year to run on his contract with Richmond.
He is yet to begin talks with the Tigers on a new deal, insisting manager Colin Young will do so mid-year, but is determined to achieve success with the club for which he has played 94 games to date.
“Our club culture’s come a long way and we know that we’re all in this together. We’re building something great,” Conca said.
“The goal is to win another premiership and we want to win as many as we can. If I can be a part of the next one then I’d be forever grateful for that.”
https://thewest.com.au/sport/richmond-tigers/richmonds-reece-conca-fit-and-relishing-new-role-ng-b88839483z
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(https://i.imgur.com/cUrzt7A.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/cUrzt7A.gif)
Along with 19 others today :shh
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(https://i.imgur.com/cUrzt7A.gif)
:lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/cUrzt7A.gif)
:lol
This is why this is a great site. Where you guys find stuff and link it back is just great comedy.
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And some say he can't play :lol
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Better than Short Steppel today
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He did some utter poo kicks today but tackled really well.
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He did some utter pooe kicks today but tackled really well.
Really? I could say with certainty 43 others who played tonight fluffed a kick or two :shh
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True for a dry night it wasn't a skills fest. That last set shot should have gone through though.
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He played well.
Should keep the heat off him for the week.
But half expecting the "RAHS RAGAHHA HAHHA HIS ONE GOOD GAME FOR THE MONTH RATGARG GADAHGD" type nonsense at any moment.
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Hes had a couple of poor games this season especially at the start of the year and against the eagles but hes improving overall, and was pretty solid tonight - the coaching staff obviously see something in him they really value, thats good enough for me
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A decent night's work for Reece.
26 disposals (14k, 12h; 10c, 17u) @ 65.4%
5 marks
2 clearances
7 tackles
2 1%ers
3 In50s
1 behind.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/11/ess-v-rich
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
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Have changed my opinions on Reece
Playing the footy we always wanted from him
Keeps his spot
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
That statement could apply to about30 players in the AFL at their respective clubs.
Conca is holding his place in the side on merit this year.
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
That statement could apply to about30 player in the AFL at their respective clubs.
Conca is holding his place in the side on merit this year.
Just trying to make himself relevant as he rated him highly whilst being employed by the club...gee we are so much better for not having him around :shh
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Interesting was tuned into 3AW at the ground
Got a bit of an axe to grind has Mark Williams
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
did that stuffwit ever do anything to help him develop when he was with us? Or did he spend all his time circlejerking dusty and paying no attention to anyone else?
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One of our best yesterday
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
Why the angst?
Lot of people on here been saying the same thing for a long time
;D
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"Mark ‘Choco’ Williams was forthright on his @3AWisfootball debut tonight.
Said Reece Conca was ‘lucky’ to still be on Richmond’s list and only is because he was drafted with a high pick."
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1002897306625064960
did that stuffwit ever do anything to help him develop when he was with us? Or did he spend all his time circlejerking dusty and paying no attention to anyone else?
Read the article on Xavier Clarke the other day, with a picture of him with all the indigenous boys.
That is the difference. Williams bagged Chol loudly and publicly to the disagreement of Rance and then made a snide remark to the multi-AA full back.
Williams' removal is IMO one of the main reasons our reserves are travelling so well and players developing.
With those reasons I very rarely care about anything Williams says.
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Another solid performance from Reece. Getting the job done and continues to do the in and under work which goes unnoticed by most. :whistle
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Great game today
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Reece plays his 100th AFL game on Thursday night :clapping.
After 3 years of injury-interrupted seasons (2015-17), Conca has played every match so far in 2018 [touchwood] averaging 20 disposals per game.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reece_Conca.html
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Reece plays his 100th AFL game on Thursday night :clapping.
After 3 years of injury-interrupted seasons (2015-17), Conca has played every match so far in 2018 [touchwood] averaging 20 disposals per game.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reece_Conca.html
Is that touchwood in case he injures himself again or in the hope he injures himself again? :shh
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
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...assuming that comp will still be around in 20 years... :shh
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
I didn’t know Reece and Brandon were planning to adopt. That’s nice. :rollin
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
I didn’t know Reece and Brandon were planning to adopt. That’s nice. :rollin
Ha ha, I see what you did there, very clever. :clapping
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Get ready for some Conca cuddles
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
I didn’t know Reece and Brandon were planning to adopt. That’s nice. :rollin
Homophobic jokes stopped being funny a while back champ
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Reece plays his 100th AFL game on Thursday night :clapping.
After 3 years of injury-interrupted seasons (2015-17), Conca has played every match so far in 2018 [touchwood] averaging 20 disposals per game.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reece_Conca.html
Congratulations to one of the nicest blokes on our list.
Hopefully all real RFC supporters will appreciate the level of dedication and perseverance this guy has displayed to get to the point he is today where others may have thrown in the towel long ago.
His stats released recently back up the true picture. He is a very talented footballer who will only improve his decision making and kicking through game continuity and confidence
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
I didn’t know Reece and Brandon were planning to adopt. That’s nice. :rollin
Homophobic jokes stopped being funny a while back champ
Who’s joking? :shh
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Reece plays his 100th AFL game on Thursday night :clapping.
After 3 years of injury-interrupted seasons (2015-17), Conca has played every match so far in 2018 [touchwood] averaging 20 disposals per game.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reece_Conca.html
Congratulations to one of the nicest blokes on our list.
Hopefully all real RFC supporters will appreciate the level of dedication and perseverance this guy has displayed to get to the point he is today where others may have thrown in the towel long ago.
His stats released recently back up the true picture. He is a very talented footballer who will only improve his decision making and kicking through game continuity and confidence
Yes well said, hopefully it’s in the seconds. :shh
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Well done Reece.
Generally a whipping boy for many of the dullards on here, but the coaching staff select you for good reason. Pity many of our supporters think they know better.
Hopefully he plays 100 more.
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I thought you were done with us primates? (https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/1323630686.gif)
:shh
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Well hopefully he has a gun son now and we'll finally get a decent output from him.... :shh
Or daughter ;)
I didn’t know Reece and Brandon were planning to adopt. That’s nice. :rollin
Homophobic jokes stopped being funny a while back champ
Who’s joking? :shh
Reported :shh
;D
:shh
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Reece plays his 100th AFL game on Thursday night :clapping.
After 3 years of injury-interrupted seasons (2015-17), Conca has played every match so far in 2018 [touchwood] averaging 20 disposals per game.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/R/Reece_Conca.html
Congratulations to one of the nicest blokes on our list.
Hopefully all real RFC supporters will appreciate the level of dedication and perseverance this guy has displayed to get to the point he is today where others may have thrown in the towel long ago.
His stats released recently back up the true picture. He is a very talented footballer who will only improve his decision making and kicking through game continuity and confidence
well said
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I’m not a fan of his but that was bad luck for the bloke no player deserves that. Just rotten luck.
Hope it’s not as bad as it looked and hope he gets back to playing again soon.
:clapping
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Suspected broken ankle :(.
Just half a quarter into his 100th game, Reece Conca suffered a sickening ankle injury.
Conca was twisted in a tackle by Lance Franklin and Tom McCartin and suffered what appeared to be a fracture or serious lower leg injury.
Play was stopped at length as he was treated on the field and taken off on a cart with the "green whistle" anaesthetic.
He was surrounded by his teammates before being taken from the field and waved to the crowd to acknowledge their support as they cheered for him.
Conca's entire career has been dogged by injuries - foot problems and chronic hamstring trouble.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/reece-conca-suffers-sickening-leg-injury-against-swans-20180628-p4zof6.html
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If it's a broken ankle, what kind of recovery are we talking about? 12 months?
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feel so sorry for Reece. No one deserves to be injured so badly, especially on their milestone game.
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If it's a broken ankle, what kind of recovery are we talking about? 12 months?
Would depend on how bad the break is. Worst case scenario is it is career ending.
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Same scenario last season getting established and then badluck strikes again hopefully boys can get up for him.
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I’m not a fan of his but that was bad luck for the bloke no player deserves that. Just rotten luck.
Hope it’s not as bad as it looked and hope he gets back to playing again soon.
:clapping
I was concerned about what you would say after that incident. Very pleased to read this :clapping :cheers
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He’s in all thoughts you would think
But tonight showed a couple of things
1- how much his teammates love him
2- what it means to Reece with the fist pump
All the best to him
100 game tiger and that can’t be taken off him
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Bad luck to him, get well soon.
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He’s in all thoughts you would think
But tonight showed a couple of things
1- how much his teammates love him
2- what it means to Reece with the fist pump
All the best to him
100 game tiger and that can’t be taken off him
Amazingly gutsy by Reece to think of the team when he was obviously in immense pain and knowing his season is over and will miss out once again on a chance to play in a premiership. Just horrible hearing him scream out in pain :(.
Makes you proud to be a Tiger supporter when we see the team walk over to the stretcher and each individual Tiger pat Reece on the head. That connection the players always talk about with each other.
Credit too to Gary Rohan who went over to Reece as well. Rohan did the same injury in 2012. Apparently, it took him 9 months to get back.
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He’s in all thoughts you would think
But tonight showed a couple of things
1- how much his teammates love him
2- what it means to Reece with the fist pump
All the best to him
100 game tiger and that can’t be taken off him
Amazingly gutsy by Reece to think of the team when he was obviously in immense pain and knowing his season is over and will miss out once again on a chance to play in a premiership. Just horrible hearing him scream out in pain :(.
Makes you proud to be a Tiger supporter when we see the team walk over to the stretcher and each individual Tiger pat Reece on the head. That connection the players always talk about with each other.
Credit too to Gary Rohan who went over to Reece as well. Rohan did the same injury in 2012. Apparently, it took him 9 months to get back.
Totally agree. Great sportsmanship by Rohan. Great support by the team. Really feel for Reece. Terrible injury. He has had appalling luck with injuries.
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That's was savage. Great reactions after though.
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Just saw the replay of the player reaction and Rohan on tv. Very good by the fellas
Also noticed Rioli have him a kiss on the forehead. Great brotherly love by the boys.
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Absolutely gutted for him
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Well obviouslly far more important to the ethos of the team than i and most of the flog conca knockers on here thougjt, good luck to him
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i really feel for him. All the best with recovery. his fist up when he was getting stretchered off probably captures what he means to the players and the club and why they always backed him
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Have heard that it may not be as bad as first thought, but no doubt his season looks over.
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Wasn't a fan of the young man, but he has certainly come of age this year, with well improved skill levels and looks like fitness levels as well.
Will be happy to see him back next year.
Always hard to see a Tiger (any player from any club really) go down , especially that badly.
Good Luck Conc and congrats on reaching the 100 game mark :clapping
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Richmond defender Jayden Short says the Tigers ‘wanted to win for Reece’
Herald-Sun
29 June 2018
REECE Conca was supposed to play a key role on Thursday night and not be a key motivator behind Richmond’s impressive win over Sydney at Etihad Stadium.
But this game can be cruel sometimes. Very cruel.
Instead of leading Richmond off after his 100th game with another win in the bank and another step closer to playing in September, Conca was carted off the ground halfway through the opening quarter with a badly broken ankle and another season in tatters.
The game stood still for more than five minutes while the West Australian was attended to by doctors, before being loaded onto the medi-cart.
By then, everyone had seen the state of his ankle on the big screens at the ground, inside living rooms and pubs around the country.
The fact Conca had played every game this season after managing just 15 in the past three years, including just six as Richmond went all the way last year, made the injury even worse.
But in a moment that emphasised the Tiger’s deep bond, the group engulfed Conca before the cart wheeled him off the ground.
It was a small moment, but it proved significant, given Damien Hardwick’s men slotted the next five goals to grasp the ascendancy.
“To see him go down like that in his 100th game, with all the injuries he has been through is pretty upsetting,” Richmond defender Jayden Short told foxfooty.com.au after the Tigers’ 26-point win.
“We said, ‘we want to win this for Reece’. We played as well as we could and got the win for Reece.
“It is so disappointing. Reece is an absolute character of the club and one of the most liked blokes.
“He will be back better than ever. It was disappointing to see, but we will get around him.”
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-defender-jayden-short-says-the-tigers-wanted-to-win-for-reece-ng-6b64871f1e511bbe7ded14a345b30790
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... his fist up when he was getting stretchered off probably captures what he means to the players and the club and why they always backed him
(https://images.perthnow.com.au/publication/6B64871F1E511BBE7DED14A345B30790/1530196521410_34de46a455e5d105471c8911a0d20356.jpeg?imwidth=668&impolicy=pn_v1)
Photo: Scott Barbour/Getty Images
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I think we might really feel the loss of Conca.
On our march to last year's flag, we had a number of players who came in to the side and really performed beyond expectations. Graham and Townsend just emerged to play pivotal roles. In 1980 we had Peter Welsh.
Conca looked to be doing similar this year. Maybe not as spectacularly, but I felt he was performing at that much higher level and impacting. It seems to me that those sort of players give you the extra dimension that can really propel you towards a flag at seasons end.
I really hope that some of our other younger players can sense an opportunity here and seize it. They might not come in this week, but no doubt there will be chances, so Menadue, Ellis, Mrakov and co. need to be busting their butts and getting ready for it.
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I think we might really feel the loss of Conca.
On our march to last year's flag, we had a number of players who came in to the side and really performed beyond expectations. Graham and Townsend just emerged to play pivotal roles. In 1980 we had Peter Welsh.
Conca looked to be doing similar this year. Maybe not as spectacularly, but I felt he was performing at that much higher level and impacting. It seems to me that those sort of players give you the extra dimension that can really propel you towards a flag at seasons end.
I really hope that some of our other younger players can sense an opportunity here and seize it. They might not come in this week, but no doubt there will be chances, so Menadue, Ellis, Mrakov and co. need to be busting their butts and getting ready for it.
Enter C Ellis ;)
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Corey Ellis isn't up to it. An ordinary player and a waste of a first round pick. As for reece, terribly unlucky, hope the injury isn't bad and he can come back better than ever
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Lets remember the Townsend story, same thoughts at the time, comes in during our march to finals and the rest as they say is history.
Who knows if he is given the opportunity that he grabs it with both hands and adds something to our midfield. Wouldnt mind giving him the opportunity to see where he is in his development.
Playing at the G in front of thousands can lift performances compared to a suburban ground with a few hundred spectators, you just never know
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Yeah, I think CEllis has something to offer. He hasn't looked too bad in his recent games at the top level & is consistently good in the VFL. Just unlucky (and lucky at the same time) to be at such a great club with great depth.
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Yeah, I think CEllis has something to offer. He hasn't looked too bad in his recent games at the top level & is consistently good in the VFL. Just unlucky (and lucky at the same time) to be at such a great club with great depth.
Doesn’t help that he plays through the middle in vfl and then gets shunted to half back or wing when he plays in the 1s.
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Corey Ellis isn't up to it. An ordinary player and a waste of a first round pick. As for reece, terribly unlucky, hope the injury isn't bad and he can come back better than ever
Ellis’s form on the VFL has been excellent since going into the midfield.
He’s a like for like replacement for Conca IMO
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Dislocated ankle, no break :clapping
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Dislocated ankle, no break :clapping
SEN saying Reece won't need surgery either. It's better news than first thought.
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Dislocated ankle, no break :clapping
SEN saying Reece won't need surgery either. It's better news than first thought.
Great news. :thumbsup
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Richmond’s Reece Conca to avoid surgery after dislocating ankle in horror incident
June 29, 2018 12:10pm
Tom Morris
FOX SPORTS
RICHMOND’s Reece Conca has dodged a bullet and will not require surgery on a badly dislocated ankle after being stretchered from the ground on Thursday night.
There were fears Conca, who was celebrating his 100th game, would miss as many as 12 months due to a graphic broken lower leg, but Fox Footy understands scans have returned a positive diagnosis for the 25-year-old.
Richmond is expected to confirm the length of Conca’s absence soon, but it will be significantly shorter than what many thought on Thursday night.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmonds-reece-conca-to-avoid-surgery-after-dislocating-ankle-in-horror-incident/news-story/b5086ccf4d529f8459f5b7afe3efdeb7
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Mr September :shh
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Conca deserves a change in luck . Hope he gets another opportunity later this year.
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Not sure why anyone is writing Corey Ellis off as a 22 year old when we know some players in the VFL only come into their prime around that age and will be drafted from this league.
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Good news for Reece.Over to you Ellis or Menadue opportunity has arisen.Ellis has looked at home in midfield in vfl.
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Sometimes severe ligament damage can take longer to heal than a broken bone. The reason being is that ligaments have a very poor blood supply yet bone has a very good blood supply as a rule. We still don't have a good idea about how much ligament damage Reece has.
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Yeah good n bad news. Let's hope it does heal but sometimes ligaments just don't heal. Hows Mrakov doing in the 2s
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he'll be in a moonboot for 2 weeks - will have a much better idea in 2 weeks, regardless its a good result
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Yeah good n bad news. Let's hope it does heal but sometimes ligaments just don't heal. Hows Mrakov doing in the 2s
Not playing, hurt his knee down @ Williamstown
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Richmond's Reece Conca will miss several weeks after he dislocated his left ankle in a sickening incident on Thursday night.
Conca will wear a moon boot for the next two weeks, before undertaking a conditioning program.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-02/injury-wrap-round-15
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Peter Burge discussing Reece's dislocated ankle injury:
Reece Conca, dislocated ankle
“He’s in a (moon) boot for two weeks . . . We’re pretty much treating it like a sprained ankle rehab. He comes out of the boot and then it’s about the swelling coming down, his ligaments, his stability, balance and things like that. . . So, really, it’s just about getting functionally moving once he is out of that boot and how long it takes for us to get him jogging, running, striding and changing direction . . . Timeline-wise, it’s very hard to say, but we’re fairly optimistic it will be before the end of the season, hopefully sooner. At the time it looked terrible, obviously. But Reece is super positive and he’s in good spirits. It’s a good situation out of something that could have been really, really bad.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-02/round-16-injury-update
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 just said Conca may be back in six weeks. Which means he could be back for the finals.
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 just said Conca may be back in six weeks. Which means he could be back for the finals.
Oh the memories when good old Concs came back from
Injury for a final
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 just said Conca may be back in six weeks. Which means he could be back for the finals.
Oh the memories when good old Concs came back from
Injury for a final
:lol
:shh
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Tiger tracking well for pre-finals return
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
Jul 19, 2018 12:01PM
REECE Conca is tracking well for a return from his ankle injury, with Richmond expecting the Tiger to be back before the end of the home and away season.
The 25-year-old went down in a sickening incident in the club's round 15 win over Sydney, and there were fears his year would be cut short by a fractured ankle.
But Conca, who has suffered a run of bad injury luck throughout his career, was buoyed by the news he had escaped serious injury and merely dislocated the ankle.
Coach Damien Hardwick said Conca has ramped up his rehabilitation program and remains on track for a return to football before the end of the season.
"He's running at the morning so he's moved from the Alter G (running machine). He's running laps [as of] Tuesday, so he's started to progress which is great. We're very confident he'll play some football," Hardwick said on Thursday.
"When it is we're not too sure, but we think it will be before the finals."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-19/tiger-tracking-well-for-prefinals-return
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:clapping
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 just said Conca may be back in six weeks. Which means he could be back for the finals.
Oh the memories when good old Concs came back from
Injury for a final
:lol
:shh
:shh :shh
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Back before finals says Dimma
Reverse the curse
:shh :shh :shh
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Yes hopefully he won't spud it up in the VFL GF this time and we might win....... :shh
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Hopefully he's out there on AFL GF day :shh
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....sitting in the grandstand cheering us on.... :shh
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....sitting in the grandstand cheering us on.... :shh
HAR HAR HAR lmao
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Dimma said Reece played okay. Did some nice things. Played well and a positive for him to come in and play his role. Deserved some change of luck. He would've played another full game at VFL level but with the bye we wanted to get some gametime into him so used tonight to do it.
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Stuff me
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Hopefully we don’t see him again.
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Conca’s quick, classy comeback
Reece Conca’s season appeared in jeopardy when he suffered an ankle injury in round 15 but the Tigers rushed him back after just one VFL game, and it proved an inspired decision. The hard-at-it midfielder resumed as though he’d never left and was one of his team’s busiest players, gathering 21 possessions, 18 of them by three-quarter-time, along with five clearances and five tackles. Conca, 26, is due some good fortune given injuries have sidelined him for big chunks of his past four seasons and caused him to miss the chance to play in the premiership last year. He was one of the reasons the Tigers coped adequately without skipper Trent Cotchin, defender David Astbury and midfielders Dion Prestia and Kane Lambert.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-17/five-talking-points-richmond-v-essendon
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Bit harsh wasn't to bad on his return.
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Plays one half of footy in 2 months, comes back in and gets 20 touches. Showed a bit.
Way harsh by these armchair experts ^^^ :D
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Immediately added to the freo leadership group.
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Immediately added to the freo leadership group.
Wow. That's suprising
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Probably says more about Freo than him.... :shh