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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
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Tom Derickx
Player statistics
* Former club:Claremont / Margaret River
* DOB:07/12/1987
* Height:201cm
* Weight:100kg
* Position:Ruckman
Video: http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/305399/tom-derickx/
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/derickx_tom.jpg)
Player assessment
Two-metre tall ruckman with impressive strength. Managed 23 hit-outs on debut for the Claremont Tigers in May 2010, as well as a goal.
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Ruckman sounds impressive anyone know anything about him?
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Apparently can play forward as well according to SEN so will complement the new interchange rule. They were quite positive about him as a footy player
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23 yo - wheres he been the last 5 years?
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Welcome Tom. :thumbsup
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Here's video of Derickx
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/305399/tom-derickx/
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Tom Derrickx looks like quite a handy big bloke. Highlights actually pretty good. Pretty mobile for a big guy and shows good aggression and has a decent leap as well.
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Impressive really - must be his age that pushed this bloke through intot the later rounds. Ready made ruckman to keep immediate pressure on Gus.
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Impressive really - must be his age that pushed this bloke through intot the later rounds. Ready made ruckman to keep immediate pressure on Gus.
Not only Gus but Browne as well. A little bit of healthy competition. :thumbsup
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the big T-Rex 8)
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2010 National Draft - Tom Derickx Pick 63
DOB: 7/12/87
Height: 201cm
Weight: 100kg
Club: Claremont
WATCH TOM DERICKX HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/314441/default.aspx
What the recruiters say:
Tom is an athletic ruckman who is very creative with his tap work and has excellent mobility around the ground. His second efforts at ground level and his ability to chase and tackle are a real feature and his movement enables him to go forward and be effective as a lead up forward. He is also a good kick both in general play and goal kicking.
Tom is a late developer who was playing in Margaret River until the end of 2008 when he moved to Perth and signed with Claremont. He played in the reserves in 2009 but blossomed this year after a strong pre season and a late growth spurt which saw him grow to over 200cm. Tom had a solid season as a ruck/forward playing all year in the league side and was a strong contributor in their narrow grand final loss.
While Tom is 22 we feel he is very early in his development phase and in a full time environment will blossom with his natural athletic and football traits and we look forward to him growing and improving at the Richmond Football Club.
In his own words:
What type of player are you?
I am an agile tap ruckman, with strong marking ability and a willingness to work and get back to help the defenders. I can also offer a dangerous option up forward.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Patrick Ryder and David Hille. They are both athletic and versatile, providing a dangerous option up forward and around the ground. My tap work is my focus, in this regard Darren Jolly has been influential.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
I am a left-handed tap ruckman, this can be seen as strength as it adds variety. I believe I have good mobility for my size and the confidence to beat my opponent. I also consider my marking skills to be one of my strengths.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
I am currently working to improve my conditioning, speed and fitness can continually be improved. A focus for me this year has been my second and third efforts and contested marking. Both of these areas have become more evident in my game, but there’s still room for further improvement.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
West Coast Eagles - my dad was a mad Eagles fan so I grew up supporting them. I now have a few friends playing in WA and interstate teams, so I tend to support them rather than the teams.
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
My parents, especially my dad Rick, have been the biggest influence on me. The support and advice that they have given me throughout my career has been inspirational.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/2010NationalDraftNews/TomDerickx/tabid/15509/Default.aspx
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I'm really happy with this pick :clapping- this is the exact type of ruck I was calling for last year instead of keeping simmonds on. Doesnt have to be a world beater, just a big fit mature body entering his prime, who can give our rucks a cut out and who knows what else? Most rucks dont mature until about 23-24 anyhow. Never seen him but like what I've read, strong, athletic, can take a grab - fills a list need.
Welcome to the tiges Tom!
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Certainly a bit to like about his highlights. Hope that's indicative of what he is capable of - the exposure to AFL standard development can only help. Nothing wrong with this pick given our current list state.
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This guy will have a Cult following sooner rather than later, mark my words...........
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A ruckman that actually chases!
Let's go Alphabet! :gotigers
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Glad we went for a tall. Hope you really becomes a good player at the club
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Every time I look at his name the first thing that springs to mind is the film Zoolander and that stupid fashion line "Derelict". :rollin
Just watched his extended highlight package. Looks a big lump of a lad who has pretty good awareness of where his team mates are and is happy to use his big body to crash a pack or two. Just when I was thinking he might be a bit slow watched him run down a couple of much smaller, quicker looking guys. Knows how to lay a tackle, take a mark and looks pretty agile below his knees. Watch out Angus Graham. Gee I hope these highlights really are a good indication of how well he can play.
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Mobile for a big man isn't he? Doesnt look like short steps are in his makeup, takes a mark, has good awareness, tackles and doesn't look at the opposition ruckman during ruck contests.
Could turn out to be a very astute pick. If he can step up could be our no. 1 ruck by the end of next year.
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Sounds like this bloke is a bit of a gun
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No 1 ruck is there for the taking if he wants it
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Every time I look at his name the first thing that springs to mind is the film Zoolander and that stupid fashion line "Derelict". :rollin
Just watched his extended highlight package. Looks a big lump of a lad who has pretty good awareness of where his team mates are and is happy to use his big body to crash a pack or two. Just when I was thinking he might be a bit slow watched him run down a couple of much smaller, quicker looking guys. Knows how to lay a tackle, take a mark and looks pretty agile below his knees. Watch out Angus Graham. Gee I hope these highlights really are a good indication of how well he can play.
Best line from that film was 'you can derelict my balls zoolander'
But on a serious note, this fella looks like a big solid bastard who wont be gettin pushed off a marking contest too easily, looks like we lucked in here. Recruiting has really taken a turn for the better, were not recruiting whippets anymore. If we happened to shaft Essendon in the bargain, oh that cheers me no end, imagine that, shafting em over Bachar and this guy in the same trade/draft period. I could sing tip toe through the tulips in falsetto for joy.
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Owl I hope so too and I would join you in Acappella. :whistle Our first Gig..... The Ascot Vale Hotel! ;D
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haha, remember to wear helmet and body armor imo
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Inside Football summary
TOM DERICKX
ruckman
Claremont, WA
Born: 7/12/87
Ht: 200cm
Wt: 100kg
"Tom played every game in the seniors for us (after playing reserves in 2009) and tested really well at the state screening. He's a big boy who just got better and better as the year dragged on. A versatile ruckman who can play forward and he's the type who would only keep improving in an AFL system. Moves well, he can jump, he's a good tackier for his size and we're expecting big things from him." -Claremont football manager Dean Horsington
WAFL 2010 stats for Claremont...
M Gls Bhds Kicks Mks HBalls FF FA HO HS
22 10 4 112 63 108 26 37 330 2
http://www.sportingpulse.com/nf/team_info.cgi?player=Tom%20Derickx&action=PSTATS&pID=189682877&client=1-2393-0-104286-4320169
Derickx was also named 3rd best player for Claremont in the WAFL Grand Final in their one point lose to Swan Districts.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/nf/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=104199781&c=1-2393-0-104286-0&pool=1001
(http://www.waflonline.com.au/players/photos/Dericks-Tom.jpg)
(http://images.watoday.com.au/2010/08/16/1780915/Derickx--Pullman--1--600x400.jpg)
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Youtube vision of Derickx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGzdKER3ZPU&feature=player_embedded
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Tom has the X-factor
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Wed 24 Nov, 2010
Tom Derickx still has plenty of growth in him . . .
For someone who’s nearly 23 years old, and stands 201cm tall, that statement may seem a tad strange.
The growth in this instance, however, refers to his football development.
Derickx, who was selected by Richmond at pick 63 overall in last week’s National Draft, is a late bloomer.
Up until a couple of years ago, he was playing football for the Augusta-Margaret River club in Western Australia’s South West League.
The talent scouts at WAFL club Claremont liked what they saw in the big bloke and, at the end of 2008, he moved to Perth to play with the WA Tigers.
He spent the 2009 season in Claremont’s reserves, before making his senior debut with the club in the opening round this year.
Claremont smashed Peel Thunder by 110 points, with Derickx producing an impressive first-up display in senior WAFL ranks.
Here’s how veteran WA sports writer, Ken Casellas, described Derickx’s debut . .
“The 22-year-old Derickx has improved at a remarkable rate since making his first appearance for the Tigers last year in the reserves competition. Tall, willowy and possessing a splendid leap, Derickx was pitted against the well-credentialled Daniel Murray, a WA under-18 representative in 2008 and a rookie with the Brisbane Lions last year.
Derickx, extremely mobile for a 200cm ruckman, showed excellent technique at the bounce-downs and boundary throw-ins to win 23 knocks. He also took three marks, had nine kicks and made seven effective handpasses . . .”
For the rest of the season, Derickx was a solid contributor in Claremont’s re-emergence as a force in the WAFL competition, culminating in its nail-biting loss to Swan Districts in the grand final.
Claremont’s football manager, Dean Horsington, is convinced Derickx has the necessary attributes to make the grade at the game’s highest level.
“He has very good athleticism for such a tall player . . .he covers the ground well, he reads the play well, and he does a lot of the hard things, like tackling and chasing. His work ethic is really good,” Horsington said.
“Character-wise, he’s outstanding. He’s one of the most genuine players we had at the club. He worked as a builder . . . he got fully qualified after moving away from home, and did it the hard way, with not a lot of money.
“To his considerable credit, he’s got himself in a good position to improve as a footballer. He managed to do the extra sessions in the gym and on the track. Football-wise, he just didn’t miss a beat, really.
“The real upside for Tom is that he’s just got a lot more improvement in him. That’s the beauty of him.
“Getting him in the AFL system now, with the development he’ll receive, I think he’ll just keep improving.
“He’s going to be quite exciting . . .”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105577/default.aspx
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In another injury blow for Richmond, mature-age WA ruck recruit , Tom Derickx, suffered an ankle fracture playing for Coburg seniors in the VFL last weekend.
“Unfortunately, Tommy landed awkwardly coming down and crunched the ankle, which cracked the inside of the ankle,” Hornsby said.
“So, he’ll be operated on . . . and we’ll know a little bit more about the prognosis once we speak to the surgeon post-surgery.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/116311/default.aspx
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In another injury blow for Richmond, mature-age WA ruck recruit , Tom Derickx, suffered an ankle fracture playing for Coburg seniors in the VFL last weekend.
“Unfortunately, Tommy landed awkwardly coming down and crunched the ankle, which cracked the inside of the ankle,” Hornsby said.
“So, he’ll be operated on . . . and we’ll know a little bit more about the prognosis once we speak to the surgeon post-surgery.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/116311/default.aspx
Would be surprised if he plays again this season
Really what's the point?
Take you time with these things Tigers
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In another injury blow for Richmond, mature-age WA ruck recruit , Tom Derickx, suffered an ankle fracture playing for Coburg seniors in the VFL last weekend.
“Unfortunately, Tommy landed awkwardly coming down and crunched the ankle, which cracked the inside of the ankle,” Hornsby said.
“So, he’ll be operated on . . . and we’ll know a little bit more about the prognosis once we speak to the surgeon post-surgery.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/116311/default.aspx
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
We needed that like a hole in the head! :banghead :banghead
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Very unfortunate for the big Tommy.
Hopefully we have better luck with injuries next year.
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Very bad luck. Hoping for a speedy recovery. Could not happened at a worst time
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The flying ankle shatter, done that a few times myself....comes with having all the grace / size of a screaming / shizer flinging silverback leaping through the air. But enough about Gerk. This isn't going to cause him permanent problems is it? He didn't do any tendons just a bone?
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The forgotten man. Kinda more excited about this guy than I am about the prospect of Maric. Anyone know where his ankle is at? other than at the end of his leg?
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From RFCO:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg877/scaled.php?tn=0&server=877&filename=h3qy.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/odh3qyj
"This Thursday we kick off AFL Draft week, with our first interviewee Tommy Derickx"
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So how is he travelling then?? Really looking forward to seeing him in action.
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So how is he travelling then?? Really looking forward to seeing him in action.
He's back in full training by the look of it WAT which is a positive given he missed the whole of last season due to that ankle injury he did during the preseason.
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So how is he travelling then?? Really looking forward to seeing him in action.
He's back in full training by the look of it WAT which is a positive given he missed the whole of last season due to that ankle injury he did during the preseason.
Well thats great news, hopefully he gets through the pre-season... :pray
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Amen to that :pray
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Would be great to see him sharing the ruck duties with Maric, maybe Brown could come along a bit more as well..then we will have Vickery to pinch hit as required.
Could be a decent ruck set up after all.
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Well thats great news, hopefully he gets through the pre-season... :pray
^ crossing of fingers...big wraps on the kid & a full pre + injury free year could assist us not only short term this year but longer as well...with Maric coming onboard (and hopefully his work ethic is what it was reported to be on the training track) having a couple of quality rucks competing for spots is only a good thing & as other clubs have shown you need more than one key big...throw TV in the mix as well and suddenly the rucks don't/won't seem so bad imo...although it is a big ask of a kid who hasn't played at the top level & is coming off a serious injury...wishful thinking though :)
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Well thats great news, hopefully he gets through the pre-season... :pray
^ crossing of fingers...big wraps on the kid & a full pre + injury free year could assist us not only short term this year but longer as well...with Maric coming onboard (and hopefully his work ethic is what it was reported to be on the training track) having a couple of quality rucks competing for spots is only a good thing & as other clubs have shown you need more than one key big...throw TV in the mix as well and suddenly the rucks don't/won't seem so bad imo...although it is a big ask of a kid who hasn't played at the top level & is coming off a serious injury...wishful thinking though :)
Dead right, can't expect too much early but hey you never know, he couldn't be any worse than some other.....Hope he just gets better as he goes along. He is in full training.. :thumbsup
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Thing that concerns me is that the big X man was apparently pretty underwhelming for Coburg in the games he did play this year. Hopefully this was largely due to injury interruptions.
I was very excited about him last pre-season. Seems to have some very useful attributes.
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Thing that concerns me is that the big X man was apparently pretty underwhelming for Coburg in the games he did play this year. Hopefully this was largely due to injury interruptions.
I was very excited about him last pre-season. Seems to have some very useful attributes.
Don't start early wit the Excuses Willy, he need to just take a leaf from Gus's book and Go all in.....
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Thing that concerns me is that the big X man was apparently pretty underwhelming for Coburg in the games he did play this year. Hopefully this was largely due to injury interruptions.
I was very excited about him last pre-season. Seems to have some very useful attributes.
pretty sure he had an injury early pre season and missed a number of the early games. i dont think he played too many games before he broke his ankle.
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Apart from taking a few good marks against Collingwood he hasn't done anything. I'll wait a while before talking him up as our next Benny Gale.
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Think if he can have a decent pre-season he will perform well next year, there should be plenty of game time available should he do well, great support for Maric.
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Think if he can have a decent pre-season he will perform well next year, there should be plenty of game time available should he do well, great support for Maric.
For his sake I pray :pray :pray :pray
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Think if he can have a decent pre-season he will perform well next year, there should be plenty of game time available should he do well, great support for Maric.
Will we play two ruckman though? We have Vickery who does a bit of rucking to support Graham. BrownE does the rucking by himself @ Coburg, so that leaves Maric and Derickx to ruck for Coburgs twos.
Sorry.
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Think if he can have a decent pre-season he will perform well next year, there should be plenty of game time available should he do well, great support for Maric.
Will we play two ruckman though? We have Vickery who does a bit of rucking to support Graham. BrownE does the rucking by himself @ Coburg, so that leaves Maric and Derickx to ruck for Coburgs twos.
Sorry.
We are lucky that under the new "No Excuses" policy we have plenty of Ruckman to choose from! This should defiantly rule out the "debacle" that was our Ruck division of last season.
It would be nice if Derickx could play back? Is there any chance of this happening??
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Gus couldnt even get a game when we were two ruckman down last year thats how bad he is, Gus might be used to fill in till Derickx is 100%, shouldnt see him much after that...
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Gus couldnt even get a game when we were two ruckman down last year thats how bad he is, Gus might be used to fill in till Derickx is 100%, shouldnt see him much after that...
Gus was injured for a few weeks and he still played 15 games. When were we two ruckman down? Derickx was out for most of the year but who was the other?????????
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It would be nice if Derickx could play back? Is there any chance of this happening??
dont see why not
could be handy to have another resting ruckman on the ground that can hold down a KP as well.
question is, is he good enough?
he was going through a rapid development phase when he copped his injuries, but now he basically has one year to show if he has the goods or not.
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Gus couldnt even get a game when we were two ruckman down last year thats how bad he is, Gus might be used to fill in till Derickx is 100%, shouldnt see him much after that...
Gus was injured for a few weeks and he still played 15 games. When were we two ruckman down? Derickx was out for most of the year but who was the other?????????
Thought he was dropped.....oh well will be next year, not much room for a ruckman that cant jump or look at the ball.
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Lade told him not to look at the ball.
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Lade told him not to look at the ball.
What when he was on the bench!!!
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thats how lade played
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Lade told him not to look at the ball.
What when he was on the bench!!!
Graham was playing to Lades instructions so take your frustrations out on our ruck coach.
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Lade told him not to look at the ball.
What when he was on the bench!!!
Graham was playing to Lades instructions so take your frustrations out on our ruck coach.
Don't have any frustrations...do you.....look Gus is too slow, can't jump, can't tap advantage, can't keep up with his opposition player, can't defend.....very good in the VFL, Coburg will do well with him.
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Think you will find Gus is a required player. Signed an extension during the year to keep him at the club until 2013
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Think you will find Gus is a required player. Signed an extension during the year to keep him at the club until 2013
Oh well, thought he was up for trade bait but we couldn't off load him, not worth much.
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I have to say I'm concerned that Derickx might not 'Go all In'.
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I have to say I'm concerned that Derickx might not 'Go all In'.
No Excuses TBR >:( >:(
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Think you will find Gus is a required player. Signed an extension during the year to keep him at the club until 2013
Oh well, thought he was up for trade bait but we couldn't off load him, not worth much.
Er no. Who told you this? Jonny Crayon?
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Tom is first off the ranks in a series of interviews of 2010 draftees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60iiZDHnPcY
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Tom is first off the ranks in a series of interviews of 2010 draftees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60iiZDHnPcY
Seems like the interview was totally off the cuff lol. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Somebody's been smoking the ganja
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He's always been a bit camera shy....
But if this guy can stay injury free he will be a very very good ruckman.
I'm adding him to Dookies 2015 hall of fame, along with Batch. :thumbsup
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his problem for him is that he has missed his chance at getting gifted some game time.
he now has to earn a spot
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his problem for him is that he has missed his chance at getting gifted some game time.
he now has to earn a spot
Great point this.
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But maybe he's got enough of a taste, and wants more.
Maybe he will push it out instead of going all in.
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I hope it doesn't take long for him to earn his spot, he will then make Gus have to really work to get into the team...
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Would think they will all get an opportunity in the pre-season
Derickx was close to getting a senior game until he busted his ankle playing for Coburg - got no doubt he will get senior games next year.
Also, IMO he has the advantage of being able to play forward if needed. Don't think BrownE or Graham offer that as they don't have the mobility
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Would think they will all get an opportunity in the pre-season
Derickx was close to getting a senior game until he busted his ankle playing for Coburg - got no doubt he will get senior games next year.
Also, IMO he has the advantage of being able to play forward if needed. Don't think BrownE or Graham offer that as they don't have the mobility
Yes agree, he was very close and does have more of a side to his game, he will complement Vickery and Maric nicely.
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he didn't even get a kick at Coburg ;D Browne was the best performer at Coburg out of all our rucks in 2011. and that even includes the Beefcake
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Late bloomer ready to debut
By Paul Daffey
Thu 19 Jan, 2012
WHILE almost all AFL ruckmen are 200cm, there would be few who have reached their height at the age that Richmond ruckman Tom Derickx stopped growing.
At 21, Derickx was 195cm. Two years later, he was 202cm. Now 24, and fully grown, he believes he's ready to break through for his AFL debut.
"I was like a baby giraffe for a couple of years there pretty uncoordinated, pretty skinny but it's all good now," he said.
Derickx grew up in Dunsborough, near Margaret River, in the south-west of Western Australia. One of his loves was surfing, and he's made the odd trip to Torquay since moving to Melbourne.
As a junior footballer, Derickx was mainly a key forward. It was only at Claremont in the WAFL that he blossomed into his current height and became a ruckman.
Richmond took him at No.63 in the 2010 NAB AFL National Draft, when he was still 22. He had ambitions to play senior with the Tigers football straight away only to suffer a difficult first season.
"I was hoping for a couple of games early but I injured my heel in the NAB Cup—bruised the fat pad—which kept me out until round eight," he said.
"Then I got a little bit of form back in the VFL. I played five games but broke my ankle, so I missed the rest of the season."
Derickx's plan this year is to remain injury free and give himself every chance of making his AFL debut.
It was expected that he would compete with Ivan Maric, Angus Graham and Andrew Browne for the main ruckman's role, but his work during the pre-season has been geared towards him playing as a tall forward with the occasional run on the ball.
"I still wouldn't mind getting into the midfield and getting into the game," he said.
"But I'm fine if I just get in the team."
Off the field, Derickx is a rarity among AFL players in that he's completed an apprenticeship. He's a carpenter.
He likes life as an AFL footballer because he now doesn't have to work on the tools all day and then front up for training in the evening, as he did at Claremont.
"It's good not to have to work and train - just train," he said.
And what about the "x"? The whacky spelling?
Derickx said it's a Dutch thing. His grandfather was Dutch. He came out to Australia as a young man looking for an adventure.
Now Tom Derickx is on the verge of an adventure of his own.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/127995/default.aspx
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Cut Maric now, no need for him.
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Sounds like they are doing the same as with Vickery. Forward/ruckman.
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Dutchy :thumbsup
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X Factor.
Would be a massive bonus if this guy can make a contribution.
Kicked 5 goals in the training drills yesterday. Can certainly take a nice grab.
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Would be unreal if he can deliver what Vickory does. Riewoldt, Vickory and Derickx would be a nightmare to man up on. Especially for teams that use 1-2 medium size defenders who can 'play tall.' 'Playing tall' means diddly squat when your opponents are 200cm+
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Be great if he could force Riewoldt out.
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Would be an innovative move to have three ruckmen on the field - two forward/rucks and one ruck. The ruck could rotate with both or either forward/rucks. Definately getting ahead of myself a little hear but if Derickx can play that role then it would be fantastic. The only delemia I would have with this circumstance would be who would act as the CHF, moving up the field to be the link up player? Griffiths showed enough in the few games he played for us to show me he had the speed as well as the marking capability to be a CHF. :-\
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Be great if he could force Riewoldt out.
Whenever I scan the main board and see the name TBR and "new" I know something idiotic has just been posted and so continue to scan the board.
:wallywink
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That interesting cause I don't even know your name.
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That interesting cause I don't even know your name.
Jack, now leave me alone :inquisition :inquisition
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big Tommy will be a star
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Be great if he could force Riewoldt out.
Whenever I scan the main board and see the name TBR and "new" I know something idiotic has just been posted and so continue to scan the board.
:wallywink
That interesting cause I don't even know your name.
That interesting cause I don't even know your name.
Jack, now leave me alone :inquisition :inquisition
You guys
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I heard this fella is looking real good. Any News?
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Heard the same on SEN yesterday
anyone seen or heard anything at training? :)
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Yep. He's in my dreamteam ;)
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Is killing it. Get on ;)
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Going the 1 premium 3 rookies strategy for rucks this year. Hoping it'll pay off
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Nothing for X to answer for from the MRP...
Contact between Richmond’s Tom Derickx and Fremantle’s Lee Spurr from the third quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. Spurr took possession of the ball in a pack of players and was immediately tackled by Derickx. Derickx lifted Spurr into the air but did not drive him into the ground with his tackle with excessive force. A free kick was paid by the controlling umpire at the time and it was the view of the panel that Derickx’s actions were not reportable. No further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130080/default.aspx
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Nothing for X to answer for from the MRP...
Contact between Richmond’s Tom Derickx and Fremantle’s Lee Spurr from the third quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. Spurr took possession of the ball in a pack of players and was immediately tackled by Derickx. Derickx lifted Spurr into the air but did not drive him into the ground with his tackle with excessive force. A free kick was paid by the controlling umpire at the time and it was the view of the panel that Derickx’s actions were not reportable. No further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130080/default.aspx
That free was a load of crap as well! all he did was swung him round and into the ground, he didn't have his arms pinned and he didn't slam him head first. What a joke.....
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its stuffing turning into fairyball, might as well make the ball round and wear shinguards and have a cuddle when we score a goal.
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thank heavens for all that, I like this lad and if he keeps Gus out of the side I luv him even more :gotigers
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scary luv or just bromance? If you got a handlebar moustache and you sell guns, its gotta be scary love..
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Never has a player done so little yet get talked about as if he's a future gun. Let's not forget this "lad" is 4 years older than Browne. Speaking of Browne, where the stuff is he? Sitting at home with his new hair cut? When are they going to give the big fella a run ;D
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Never has a player done so little yet get talked about as if he's a future gun. Let's not forget this "lad" is 4 years older than Browne. Speaking of Browne, where the stuff is he? Sitting at home with his new hair cut? When are they going to give the big fella a run ;D
Yes agree, if we don't give him a shot in the NAB we may as well of delisted him.....unless injured of course, or coming back from injury..
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Yes agree, if we don't give him a shot in the NAB we may as well of delisted him.....unless injured of course, or coming back from injury..
That's it WAT.
Like so many others had the hip operations over the off season.
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Big X is now on twitter ...
https://twitter.com/tomderickx39
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Congrats to the big X-man on getting the call up to make his AFL debut :clapping.
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Yep kill em big man, playing for his career the next 9 weeks, hope he shows a bit and gives maric a decnt chop out in the ruck
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Must emphatically go for his marks as he did in last years NAB games.
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VIDEO: Find out why Derickx is getting a game. See his Coburg highlights from the season here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/466068/default.aspx
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Some of the highlights he reminds me a bit of Patrick Ryder, not sure if thats good or bad but he does appear to have some talent, whats been holding him back?
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broken ankle last year Lozza
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I wish him all the best. Let's hope he has a blinder against the dees and it gives him the confidence and belief that he can make it at this level. :pray
... Then we can finally get rid of the big girl and the big pear.
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Watch who you're calling the big girl. Never seen the big girl duck her head like this bloke does.
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Interesting to see how he goes in defence at AFL level having been a ruckman for most of his career so far until moved into Coburg backline this season. Does he have the agility and acceleration off the mark for a big bloke to play defence at this level?
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I think he will play on Stefan Martin. :thumbsup
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I think he will play on Stefan Martin. :thumbsup
I hope he plays on Jackie Watts. Ease him into AFL life.
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Agree with "I think he will play on Stefan Martin" Good luck to him. I hope Tom plays really well
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I reckon he might get first shot as second tall in front half...good luck big fella...welcome to tigerland :thumbsup
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Can take a fantastic contested grab this bloke, just hoping he can make the transition to AFL level. Looked good in the NAB last year when he first joined the club before stuffing his ankle.
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VIDEO: Tom Derickx talks about finding out about his debut for the Tigers ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/466073/default.aspx
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will probably have sleeping tonight...
Danger, danger!
Careful who you take advice on that one from big fella.
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Maybe a bit harsh given it was his first AFL game but the big X looked too slow and lost where the ball was too many times. I guess playing him has allowed us to find out whether he was or not up to AFL level.
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I thought he went to ground too much early on. His tackling was good early. Too slow and not good enough to play down back at AFL level but I reckon he'll get a gig next week. If he gets dropped then we might be looking at Beefcake getting another crack at it.
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Id give him anther run, rarelt got near it, spending too much time star gazing the jack lids and cotch show ....he ll be right. Has rare agility for someone of his height, and boy can he take a grab., was a goalkicking machine back at claremont :shh
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He was a ruckman, BJ. Didn't kick that many
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/2110
10 goals in his last WAFL season. you telling us some fibs Bo ;D :shh
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He was a ruckman, BJ. Didn't kick that many
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/2110
10 goals in his last WAFL season. you telling us some fibs Bo ;D :shh
Really when someone told me that i thought it was in 1 game :lol
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:lol
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Id give him anther run, rarelt got near it, spending too much time star gazing the jack lids and cotch show ....he ll be right. Has rare agility for someone of his height, and boy can he take a grab., was a goalkicking machine back at claremont :shh
Maybe so BJ but your love of the Tiggers means you talk up our blokes more than what you should.
Thought he was okay at best. Given the opposition anyway. Give him another go next week and lets see how he goes.
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I agree bit slow at times. But we won, it was his first game and I thought it looked like he was having a blast out there.Probably thought he'd never get a run. At least he was better than anything TV has dished up this year.
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5 tackle.in first q.
Go the big man.
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From Reece Conca's twitter .... 'war wounds on debut - the face only a mother could love' lol.
(http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/93c56f34c80711e19894123138140d8c_7.jpg)
http://instagram.com/p/MxY79MqFmi/
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Didn't see him cop that one, How'd it happen?
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Id give him anther run, rarelt got near it, spending too much time star gazing the jack lids and cotch show ....he ll be right. Has rare agility for someone of his height, and boy can he take a grab., was a goalkicking machine back at claremont :shh
Maybe so BJ but your love of the Tiggers means you talk up our blokes more than what you should.
Thought he was okay at best. Given the opposition anyway. Give him another go next week and lets see how he goes.
ya know tucker, it's people's ignorance in roundly dispariaging our players that inspires my remarks. Im as bullish as people are stupid, mix it together and we have an equilibrium :shh
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:lol
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VIDEO: Tiger great Bruce Monteath presents Tom Derickx with his jumper pre-game on Saturday ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/467383/default.aspx
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I see Bruce still has his little mullet.
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i like the process we went thru in getting derickx and morris.
over looking state league players while hanging onto long tem underachievers has been a bug bear with me. we do need to target blokes like derickx who have done really well at their clubs and in their competition and have enough of the required attributes. ie athleticism skills nouse etc to play afl. target blokes who have high b&f finishes at their clubs and in the league.
you wont always find a player who works out but you give yourself a good chance.
i wanted us to draft very late or rookie a bloke called tom lee last yr just 21 this yr. he ticks most boxes very athletic good kick and a damn good size at 196cm. this bloke would have been handy at chb or chf for us this yr.
i would prefer we did this than use a rookie pick on a kid who has done nothing is usually so skinny hes 3 yrs away from playing and has obvious deficiencies that will take time to fix and at the end of the day is more likely to go by the way side than make it.
yep weather derickx makes it or not hes basically a rookie pick the process is right.
the only time i have real issues with us taking mature players is if we use 1st 2nd or even in some cases 3rd round picks to get them. use these picks on quality kids take enough kids each yr as well and you can then value add with senior players until your hearts content.
finally while it doesnt look great atm big tom may well still manage to make the grade.
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From Reece Conca's twitter .... 'war wounds on debut - the face only a mother could love' lol.
(http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/93c56f34c80711e19894123138140d8c_7.jpg)
http://instagram.com/p/MxY79MqFmi/
Why is jack pulling that face... seriously what a knob, why do we indulge this guy, he should have kicked 150 goals in the season so far.
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i like the process we went thru in getting derickx and morris.
over looking state league players while hanging onto long tem underachievers has been a bug bear with me. we do need to target blokes like derickx who have done really well at their clubs and in their competition and have enough of the required attributes. ie athleticism skills nouse etc to play afl. target blokes who have high b&f finishes at their clubs and in the league.
you wont always find a player who works out but you give yourself a good chance.
i wanted us to draft very late or rookie a bloke called tom lee last yr just 21 this yr. he ticks most boxes very athletic good kick and a damn good size at 196cm. this bloke would have been handy at chb or chf for us this yr.
i would prefer we did this than use a rookie pick on a kid who has done nothing is usually so skinny hes 3 yrs away from playing and has obvious deficiencies that will take time to fix and at the end of the day is more likely to go by the way side than make it.
yep weather derickx makes it or not hes basically a rookie pick the process is right.
the only time i have real issues with us taking mature players is if we use 1st 2nd or even in some cases 3rd round picks to get them. use these picks on quality kids take enough kids each yr as well and you can then value add with senior players until your hearts content.
finally while it doesnt look great atm big tom may well still manage to make the grade.
You make some good points claw. One thing I heard on the radio the other day, Was about how clubs draft. Some like Sydney recycle many players and do really well at it, some like Geelong build their own and rarely recycle, the conclusion whatever path you go, do it well. I think sydney are unique in the way they go about it, because they have to. Recycled players are more likely to stick in Sydney too. I think we should go more the Geelong route and develop our own, something we have not been good at since the 80s. But with our increased football spend we are developing some good players under hardwick like Rance.
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i like the process we went thru in getting derickx and morris.
over looking state league players while hanging onto long tem underachievers has been a bug bear with me. we do need to target blokes like derickx who have done really well at their clubs and in their competition and have enough of the required attributes. ie athleticism skills nouse etc to play afl. target blokes who have high b&f finishes at their clubs and in the league.
you wont always find a player who works out but you give yourself a good chance.
i wanted us to draft very late or rookie a bloke called tom lee last yr just 21 this yr. he ticks most boxes very athletic good kick and a damn good size at 196cm. this bloke would have been handy at chb or chf for us this yr.
i would prefer we did this than use a rookie pick on a kid who has done nothing is usually so skinny hes 3 yrs away from playing and has obvious deficiencies that will take time to fix and at the end of the day is more likely to go by the way side than make it.
yep weather derickx makes it or not hes basically a rookie pick the process is right.
the only time i have real issues with us taking mature players is if we use 1st 2nd or even in some cases 3rd round picks to get them. use these picks on quality kids take enough kids each yr as well and you can then value add with senior players until your hearts content.
finally while it doesnt look great atm big tom may well still manage to make the grade.
You make some good points claw. One thing I heard on the radio the other day, Was about how clubs draft. Some like Sydney recycle many players and do really well at it, some like Geelong build their own and rarely recycle, the conclusion whatever path you go, do it well. I think sydney are unique in the way they go about it, because they have to. Recycled players are more likely to stick in Sydney too. I think we should go more the Geelong route and develop our own, something we have not been good at since the 80s. But with our increased football spend we are developing some good players under hardwick like Rance.
i basically agree with ya . but there is a distinction between recycled and state league. i also think where we take recycled/state league players is important. the distinction between 1st rnd picks and late nd rookie picks has to be made.
keep your 1st 2nd maybe 3rd round picks and find the quality kids in the draft with them. target the recycled and state leaguers with late nd psd or orookie picks, to me thats getting the best of both worlds and you arent trading away your quality long term future.
geelong having utilised the draft to the max and built most of their team thru the draft did have a few recycled and state league players albeit they didnt come cheap apart from podsiadly.
ottens mooney spring straight to mind who were recycled afl players. pods and taylor were state league players. so geelong havent totally ignored recycled/state league players.
with two more teams in the comp the talent pool just shrank significantly again. imo the state leagues are still over looked to a large degree by all clubs not just us.
i look at kyle horsley from subi. r/u in the sandover medal performed well in the league for yrs on end. subi b&f and has all the attributes to play afl, good kick good size for a mid can find the footy basically just needed an opportunity to either make it or fail. and yes theres a good chance he would fail but has to be a lesser chance of that happening than a 18 yr old rookie who failed to get picked up in the draft and hasnt proven a thing. thats why the process with derickx is the right one. we should do more of it weather tom makes it or not.
surely kyle horsley or players in his situation are a better option than us loading up with 6 skinny rookies all of them overlooked by all clubs because they have chronic weaknesses in key areas. it takes us 3 yrs to get em up to speed if they ever get up to speed. lets not forget most rookies never ever make it. why dont we take a 24 yr old who can improve your list straight away they can actually play a game if need be and have proven themselves at the next level down something most rookies have not done.
im not advocating we dont use rookie picks or late nd picks on kids most of these type of picks should still go to kids, but i am advocating we use a few more of these picks on slightly older blokes who meet the criteria.
i know this post is getting long winded and i apologise. but to me this coming draft why not use our first 4 picks on kids.
thats going to be 4 picks in the top 50 or close to it. theres the long term quality and future sewn up. depending on what pick we actually end up with i would definately go after josh caddy with our first rounder. imo hes exactly the type of mid we need and hes still very much a kid and we cater to the quality long term player with this pick.
depending on how many we cut we may use the next pick somewhere in the 60s on a kid or target a retread from another club. we then psd a mature player recycled/state, that means we cut 6 from the list proper but go no deeper in the draft than pick 60 something to replace them.
we then work out what rookies we are to cut if we cut say 5 why not target 2 mature players from state league and take 3 kids.
at the end of it all we end up with a scenario of 7 new kids and 4 state/recycled players or something very similar.
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Derickx has injured his arm/wrist. He's got to have a brace on it for the next month...
(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/db38eb6e44d211e2900e22000a1f96c7_7.jpg)
http://web.stagram.com/p/345176932772549955_20376092
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Delist him :gotigers
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If only he'd been injured before we played GC in Cairns.
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doesnt matter what this guy does...for me that dropped mark has stamped him forever..lol
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Shoud've got rid of him this year won't make it
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doesnt matter what this guy does...for me that dropped mark has stamped him forever..lol
To be fair the rest of the team also played poohouse.
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Final chance this year - wasted his opportunity last year and chances look limited this year. Needs to have more impact for hs size and weight
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if he doesnt make it, we'll be looking for 2 mature rucks at the end of the season :rollin
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Maybe. We couid redraft ben hudson and dean brogran once they're delisted again
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extremely lucky to survive the cut. Hope he realizes that and really puts in a good year next year otherwise he is gone for sure
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Very unlucky for Tom, wasn't he injured last year during the preseason, when everone was hailing him is the next best thing... :whistle
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Very unlucky for Tom, wasn't he injured last year during the preseason, when everone was hailing him is the next best thing... :whistle
No he wasn't
But certainly Gerrard Healy was hailing him as the next best bigman in waiting during the NAB cup ;D
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Very unlucky for Tom, wasn't he injured last year during the preseason, when everone was hailing him is the next best thing... :whistle
No he wasn't
But certaily Gerrard Healy was hailing him as the next best bigman in waiting during the NAB cup ;D
Who was it then, I can't remember?? Macdonald??
Yeah I remember Healy, but so were others... ;)
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Has signed with the Swans as a delisted free agent. :o
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Not sure if srs
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Confirmed on the AFL web-site
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-18/swans-snap-up-derickx
:gobdrop
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Has signed with the Swans as a delisted free agent. :o
:o
I'd guess he's the only ruckman they could afford to add after splurging their salary cap on Buddy for the next 9 years :yep.
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Well if the Swans cant turn him around no team can, will be very interesting to see how this plays out... :-\
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WGAF. Took one good mark in a NAB Cup game against Collingwood and it got him 3 years on a list. Nice work if you can get it. Maybe Horse saw that mark too. It wasn't even that good FFS, Ivan take 5 of them a game :banghead
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lol
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His management pulled a Ralphy Carr after that mark and CC folded like a deck of cards.
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A replacement for Mummy? :lol Thats like trading in your Ford F50 for an Alfa Romeo Fiasco
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They don't need yo replace mummy with
Canada
Goodes
Buddy
Etc.
Derick decent back up
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Well if the Swans cant turn him around no team can, will be very interesting to see how this plays out... :-\
alternatively, Sydney could bury him
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Well if the Swans cant turn him around no team can, will be very interesting to see how this plays out... :-\
alternatively, Sydney could bury him
Yep, like I said, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Well if the Swans cant turn him around no team can, will be very interesting to see how this plays out... :-\
Gee, what a turn around....... :banghead
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
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Another rubbish thread about non RFC player :sleep :wallywink :banghead :whistle
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Another rubbish thread about non RFC player :sleep :wallywink :banghead :whistle
Yeah I know......just like the White and Schulz threads.. :thumbsup
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Derickx goals: 3
Hamspud goals: 0
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
4 disposals last week = near BOG? and 1 disposal tonight = killing it again? And you said Gordon didn't play in the last game for Richmond?
Do you even watch football?
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its just like kicking the ball, you do better not watching?
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its just like kicking the ball, you do better not watching?
:lol :lol :lol
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Fuckheads inc.......
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
4 disposals last week = near BOG? and 1 disposal tonight = killing it again? And you said Gordon didn't play in the last game for Richmond?
Do you even watch football?
Just quoted that incase you wanted to back up your statements with facts/arguments, WAT. But feel free to break forum rules by using insults instead. That's what usually wins debates
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
4 disposals last week = near BOG? and 1 disposal tonight = killing it again? And you said Gordon didn't play in the last game for Richmond?
Do you even watch football?
Just quoted that incase you wanted to back up your statements with facts/arguments, WAT. But feel free to break forum rules by using insults instead. That's what usually wins debates
Why not watch the game and listen to what the ex players of the game say about him, not keyboard legends who rate themselves as past AFL legends..... ::)
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Did the ex players say he was best on last week and that he was killing it tonight with 3 touches in a half, did they? Did they?
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JEZZADERICKX YOU BEEEEWWWWTYYY!!!
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Fmd - time to switch off, early train 5:30 for work so I can have a few ales for tommy tomorrow - cheers boys have fun go storm. Big day tomorrow
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How could TDX be any worse than that Graham we have in our team now
Honestly. His not that great but puts in more than that spud
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Good work on the swans giving recycled types like this and franklin a shot.
Always liked him and should have been retained as a rookie alowing the Richmond pick #2 to be spent of a kid with potential.
Then again a darrou type should be blooded over Chaplin and Shaun should be sent to the knackery
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
4 disposals last week = near BOG? and 1 disposal tonight = killing it again? And you said Gordon didn't play in the last game for Richmond?
Do you even watch football?
yep people complaining about hamspuds lack of marks and throw this guy up as an argument. 8 marks all yr and just one of em contested or is that 2. lol.
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What did TDX cost us???
That's the argument. Where's the upgrade?
Nice goal tonight BTW. Graham how many this year?
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Ok then. He's still poo. No Mummy = Pike as his competition. Two old moles slugging it out
Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week and killing it again tonight....real poo that! :whistle
4 disposals last week = near BOG? and 1 disposal tonight = killing it again? And you said Gordon didn't play in the last game for Richmond?
Do you even watch football?
yep people complaining about hamspuds lack of marks and throw this guy up as an argument. 8 marks all yr and just one of em contested or is that 2. lol.
Does derixkx average more touches than villy two kicks ?
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Did the ex players say he was best on last week and that he was killing it tonight with 3 touches in a half, did they? Did they?
Yeah they did actually chump, sorry...champ. :whistle
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How can people actually put this guy up as a shining star beggars belief, he is crap and only getting a game because the swans can't afford a quality ruck as they spent all their money on Tippet and Buddy.
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Not a Richmond player so no-one cares ;D
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Happy for the bloke to be getting a run. Good on him.
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Last night the commentators kept saying how great a game he had as a ruckman - 26 h/o with only 4 to advantage.......
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Bloke also took 3 marks and jagged a goal. Rucking against first choice options like Belchambers and Ryder. I'd say he played a fair game indeed.
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Bloke also took 3 marks and jagged a goal. Rucking against first choice options like Belchambers and Ryder. I'd say he played a fair game indeed.
I guess that's 3 more than Hamspud..... ;D
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Did the ex players say he was best on last week and that he was killing it tonight with 3 touches in a half, did they? Did they?
Yeah they did actually chump, sorry...champ. :whistle
Didn't know they had AFL radio in South Africa. From what I have been seeing he's still rubbish and has completely vindicated the decision to pee him off. If you like an average of barely 2 marks a game from your ruckman and 8 or so touches then good luck to ya :clapping Obviously you have little clue so you base your opinion around what commentators say and you're that emotional when we call you out on it (because we actually watch games) :lol
I ask again, did the commentators say he was near BOG last week when he had 4 touches? And was he killing it last night when he'd only had 1 touch at the time you said it? I think he ended with 11. Is that a career high? :bow
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The media loves to suck the poo out of anyone who leaves Richmond's arse
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The media loves to suck the poo out of anyone who leaves Richmond's arse
Especially those useless ex Geelong players they have in the box and on the boundary.
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He's naturally going to be marginally better at a well oil machine that is the swans.
But he's a spud and being at Richmond made him a super-spud.
Its good for him at the swans, there he will learn how to mark, kick, hand pass, shephard, etc.
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Did the ex players say he was best on last week and that he was killing it tonight with 3 touches in a half, did they? Did they?
Yeah they did actually chump, sorry...champ. :whistle
Didn't know they had AFL radio in South Africa. From what I have been seeing he's still rubbish and has completely vindicated the decision to pee him off. If you like an average of barely 2 marks a game from your ruckman and 8 or so touches then good luck to ya :clapping Obviously you have little clue so you base your opinion around what commentators say and you're that emotional when we call you out on it (because we actually watch games) :lol
I ask again, did the commentators say he was near BOG last week when he had 4 touches? And was he killing it last night when he'd only had 1 touch at the time you said it? I think he ended with 11. Is that a career high? :bow
Facts hey.....get with it coach, I was never in SA and I haven't been in Africa for 2 years... :wallywink
He had kicked a goal and had abut 6 possessions when I said what I said, lay off the booze.
:cheers
Yes the commentators did say that, not sure how many times I have to repeat myself on that one.. :sleep
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Might pay for you to actually watch him play, near on BOG last week
:lol :rollin :lol
One of your best ever WAT!
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Did the ex players say he was best on last week and that he was killing it tonight with 3 touches in a half, did they? Did they?
Yeah they did actually chump, sorry...champ. :whistle
Didn't know they had AFL radio in South Africa. From what I have been seeing he's still rubbish and has completely vindicated the decision to pee him off. If you like an average of barely 2 marks a game from your ruckman and 8 or so touches then good luck to ya :clapping Obviously you have little clue so you base your opinion around what commentators say and you're that emotional when we call you out on it (because we actually watch games) :lol
I ask again, did the commentators say he was near BOG last week when he had 4 touches? And was he killing it last night when he'd only had 1 touch at the time you said it? I think he ended with 11. Is that a career high? :bow
Facts hey.....get with it coach, I was never in SA and I haven't been in Africa for 2 years... :wallywink
He had kicked a goal and had abut 6 possessions when I said what I said, lay off the booze.
:cheers
Yes the commentators did say that, not sure how many times I have to repeat myself on that one.. :sleep
You said he was killing it during the 2nd quarter. He had 4 touches for the first half and had 1 touch until halfway through the 2nd quarter. 4 touches for the half mate. Clearly not 6.
But the commentator said this, he said that. Brucey said Derrickx is really good, didn't he? He's been saying that for a while, hasn't he?
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The decision to trade out pick 21 and delist Derrick was a shocker.
Derickx even Big O could have done what Hampson can do. Awful list management. Not to mention the fact we gave up a 2nd rounder too.
Tom Langdon was pick 65. What a joke we are.
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The decision to trade out pick 21 and delist Derrick was a shocker.
Derickx even Big O could have done what Hampson can do. Awful list management. Not to mention the fact we gave up a 2nd rounder too.
Tom Langdon was pick 65. What a joke we are.
Leave me out of this.
:lol
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RFC Is a black hole that sucks ones will to live
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RFC Is a black hole that sucks ones will to live
its true.
whats the point of it anymore
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Was a poohouse player and still is now, stop pretending he had any stuffing value
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RFC Is a black hole that sucks ones will to live
Yes. Tigeritis.
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RFC Is a black hole that sucks ones will to live
its true.
whats the point of it anymore
Saw a guy in a Richmond jumper walk in front of a bus yesterday
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bump
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RFC Is a black hole that sucks ones will to live
its true.
whats the point of it anymore
Saw a guy in a Richmond jumper walk in front of a bus yesterday
It was Coach ....was quite fitting as the bus was a Greyhound....
No wait...he would've been wearing a Port jumper.
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Lmao @ Big Tommy D taking Grabs and kicking sausage rolls in Sydney.
U stuffn shitman, Hardwick !!
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The decision to trade out pick 21 and delist Derrick was a shocker.
Derickx even Big O could have done what Hampson can do. Awful list management. Not to mention the fact we gave up a 2nd rounder too.
Tom Langdon was pick 65. What a joke we are.
Tommy Derrickzxzyz doesn't win many taps.
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Graham does Wayne and we have 3 wins on the board, funny that.
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The decision to trade out pick 21 and delist Derrick was a shocker.
Derickx even Big O could have done what Hampson can do. Awful list management. Not to mention the fact we gave up a 2nd rounder too.
Tom Langdon was pick 65. What a joke we are.
Tommy Derrickzxzyz doesn't win many taps.
Hampson doesn't do a lot around ground.
Keeping derickx and our 2nd pick was the logix choice
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I agree but you know what would've happened had we kept him.....Hardwick would've played Stephenson while Maric was out, Derickx would still be in the magoos and we'd probably still all be complaining about him still being on the list and our failure to recruit any more ruckman during the off-season...unless Stephenson was absolutely putrid then we'd be saying "why keep Derickx if you're not going to play him at all, at least give him a go...."
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Hardwick would've playing Stephenson while Maric was out, Derickx would still be in the magoos and we'd probably still all be complaining about him still being on the list and our failure to recruit any more ruckman during the off-season..
And we would have about the 30th best kid in the country on the list instead of banfeild
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Hardwick would've playing Stephenson while Maric was out, Derickx would still be in the magoos and we'd probably still all be complaining about him still being on the list and our failure to recruit any more ruckman during the off-season..
And we would have about the 30th best kid in the country on the list instead of banfeild
We'd still be bitching....remember this would be without having Hamspud to be comparing Derickx to....
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Funny what happens when you give someone an extended run in the ones... sometimes you just have to give a sucker an even break. Criminal to not give them a fair go before delisting
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Yep - watch the likes of Arnot get the arse at the end of the year whilst we use a draft pick to upgrade Thomas.
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How many years did we put into Derickx?
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Yep - watch the likes of Arnot get the arse at the end of the year whilst we use a draft pick to upgrade Thomas.
If Thomas plays like he did last week I'd be happy to have him on the list. It's Arnots job to earn the respect of Dimma to play him. Should not just be given games because he is on the list. Neither should of Derickx. You drop chest marks in games when you get a chance, it's on you.
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Yep - watch the likes of Arnot get the arse at the end of the year whilst we use a draft pick to upgrade Thomas.
If Thomas plays like he did last week I'd be happy to have him on the list. It's Arnots job to earn the respect of Dimma to play him. Should not just be given games because he is on the list. Neither should of Derickx. You drop chest marks in games when you get a chance, it's on you.
Yes Arnot only made 9 tackles in his last senior game - a flogging by Hawthorn that was obviously his fault. But hey as long as Grigg racked up his usual 25-odd useless possessions, zero tackles, butchered entries into the forward 50 and put on his usual fine display of elite one-way running , right?
As for Thomas - I'll take the kid with promise over the proven hack every day of the week. Most people on this board, their parents and their children would've played well against the GWS witches hats.
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:lol When he dropped that chest mark against GC we were all questioning his recruitment and demanding his immediate demotion. He struggled to have an impact all year last year in the twos. No one batted an eyelid when we cut him this year. We constantly bemoan RFC players being gifted games.
But now he's getting a kick for the premiership favorites and it's all "why didn't we give him the poor man a chance?!"
:lol
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:lol When he dropped that chest mark against GC we were all questioning his recruitment and demanding his immediate demotion. He struggled to have an impact all year last year in the twos. No one batted an eyelid when we cut him this year. We constantly bemoan RFC players being gifted games.
But now he's getting a kick for the premiership favorites and it's all "why didn't we give him the poor man a chance?!"
:lol
Can you imagin the McGlynn / Kennedy hystirea over on the hawks forum!
Wait Wot??? They won a premiership without them :o
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:lol When he dropped that chest mark against GC we were all questioning his recruitment and demanding his immediate demotion. He struggled to have an impact all year last year in the twos. No one batted an eyelid when we cut him this year. We constantly bemoan RFC players being gifted games.
But now he's getting a kick for the premiership favorites and it's all "why didn't we give him the poor man a chance?!"
:lol
Can you imagin the McGlynn / Kennedy hystirea over on the hawks forum!
Wait Wot??? They won a premiership without them :o
Geez that Kennedy trade is a shocker. The fact they threw in McGlynn as steak knives is even funnier.
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:lol When he dropped that chest mark against GC we were all questioning his recruitment and demanding his immediate demotion. He struggled to have an impact all year last year in the twos. No one batted an eyelid when we cut him this year. We constantly bemoan RFC players being gifted games.
But now he's getting a kick for the premiership favorites and it's all "why didn't we give him the poor man a chance?!"
:lol
When Derickx dropped that mark I don't think anyone envisioned that even we could somehow manage to eventually replace him with someone not only even worse but also at a greater cost, yet here we are.
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Funny what happens when you give someone an extended run in the ones... sometimes you just have to give a sucker an even break. Criminal to not give them a fair go before delisting
this is about the only thing i agree on so far on this thread.
we had to give him a decent go at some stage before cutting him.
thing is we took him as a mature recrit 23yo and he played just 2 games in his 3 yrs with us. he did nothing at all to warrant a game not a thing.
he was never going to get a game in front of maric and i can tell you all now there would have been hell to pay if he had got gifted games in front of vickery. yep the one who kept derickx out of the side is the big old softie himself.
no one can blame the club for delisting derickx he did absolutely nothing to warrant a spot.
and its freakin hilarious all the wrist slashing about him getting a game at sydney. do people actually watch players hes been shizen id sydney got thrashed in one position tonight it was in the ruck.
to me its such a shame we cant make calls like the derickx call on more players whose performances have been poor for much longer.
the bloke was absolute crap at richmond and we sure as hell made the right call in cutting him.
replacing him with hampson and useing such a good pick to get hampson was always a risk a risk i thought we should not have taken. im laughing now though at all the teeth gnashing not many were too upset or spoke up about us drafting him at the time.
finally on hampson unlike most on here i think PURELY as a ruckman at ruck contests hampson has been more than servicable. its just a shame the other areas of his game have been so poor.
the club really did have to at the very least rookie a young ruckman last yr. oh well.
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Tom didn't perform and was cut. That's just life. FWIW I dont think he's been playing well for Sydney either.
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He's playing crap for Sydney but he gets noticed more by most of us because of where he came from and we have a stick to measure his performance by. He might have improved slightly from his RFC days but he is still crap and wouldn't be even close to a senior game if Sydney hadn't stuffed up by getting rid of Mumford.
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I expect the like or helbig. Bachelor. Arnot. martDea. To come good:
If delisted and redrafted at another side
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With TD ripping it up, just imagine what vickers would be playing like for someone else. He actually has some talent, moves like a gazelle when as a follower , be warned :shh
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Tyrone is still a baby
Needs at least two more years before being expected to compete with a grade ruckman
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Sydney can't afford to pay anyone decent to play in the ruck. It's not Tom D why they won by 100 points last night.
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It does show that you do not need to win in the ruck to win.
Just be competitive.
This is where Maric excels.
:thumbsup
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When Derickx dropped that mark I don't think anyone envisioned that even we could somehow manage to eventually replace him with someone not only even worse but also at a greater cost, yet here we are.
:lol
I shouldn't laugh really but that is funny.
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He's playing crap for Sydney but he gets noticed more by most of us because of where he came from and we have a stick to measure his performance by. He might have improved slightly from his RFC days but he is still crap and wouldn't be even close to a senior game if Sydney hadn't stuffed up by getting rid of Mumford.
TD will be back in the seconds the moment Mike Pyke is back. RFC made the right call in dropping him. He would not be the first ruckman in any team given his current form.
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When Derickx dropped that mark I don't think anyone envisioned that even we could somehow manage to eventually replace him with someone not only even worse but also at a greater cost, yet here we are.
:lol
I shouldn't laugh really but that is funny.
It was a goodun ;D
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He's playing crap for Sydney but he gets noticed more by most of us because of where he came from and we have a stick to measure his performance by. He might have improved slightly from his RFC days but he is still crap and wouldn't be even close to a senior game if Sydney hadn't stuffed up by getting rid of Mumford.
TD will be back in the seconds the moment Mike Pyke is back. RFC made the right call in dropping him. He would not be the first ruckman in any team given his current form.
The question is
A. How much better is hampson than derickx
B. How good was the secound pick potentially
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He's playing crap for Sydney but he gets noticed more by most of us because of where he came from and we have a stick to measure his performance by. He might have improved slightly from his RFC days but he is still crap and wouldn't be even close to a senior game if Sydney hadn't stuffed up by getting rid of Mumford.
TD will be back in the seconds the moment Mike Pyke is back. RFC made the right call in dropping him. He would not be the first ruckman in any team given his current form.
The question is
A. How much better is hampson than derickx
B. How good was the secound pick potentially
C. What were the other options and did we even explore them. no we didnt.
D. which player was hampson supposed to replace and is he a better option. i thought we got him to play second ruck so vickery could play full time fwd. hamspud is an infinately better ruckman than vickery.
E, What were the risks in taking hampson.and did we weigh them up. id say no. we totally ignored his previous track record and our own development record thinking we could turn him around.
F. SHOULD WE BE USEING 2ND ROUND PICKS ON 26YO UNPROVEN PLAYERS. hell no.
G What was the true state of our ruck stocks and did we need to target a mature ruckman. the simple answer to that was our ruck stocks were poor still are. there was a need to find a mature ruckman 23 24 yo who could fill in for ivan but with steohenson there it was not a must. we really still needed to put a junior even two on our list.
our ruckmen
maric 28yo and starting to cop injuries. may only have 2 or three yrs left surely a list management strategy would be to have a player enter his prime 24 25yo when ivan retires.
hampson 26yo ordinary player. in three yrs he too will be 29 with his track record we must have other options in our system.
stephenson 32 yo should never have been kept when we got hampson. his rookie spot should have gone on a kid. it still needs to.
we need to cut stephenson, hunt for a 22 23 yo mature ruckman and also look to rookie a kid.
fwd rucks.
vickery 24yo neither good in the ruck or good up fwd will never be a 1st ruck,
griffiths 22yo looks a lot like vickery to date. hes definately more a kpp than ruckman.
mcbean 19 yo club claim hes going to be a ruckman i see another vickery situation to date. it can be asked will he ever be a decent ruckman. will he be a decent fwd.
there is absolutely no need for this club to keep three 200cm fwd rucks. we should be looking to cut/trade one of them.
vickery and griffiths are clearly not #1 ruck options who knows with mcbean but it doesnt look likely with him either.
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Crikey thought he would go to Z
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Crikey thought he would go to Z
did i say i was finished ;)
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Sydney ruckman Tom Derickx says he holds no grudge against Richmond after being delisted
Warwick Green
Herald Sun
June 18, 2014 7:03PM
HE MANAGED just two AFL games in three seasons at Punt Road, and has since played 11 on the trot with premiership contender Sydney.
But ruckman Tom Derickx holds no animosity towards Richmond’s decision to cut him over summer.
“I spent three years there and didn’t do a hell of a lot, so I think they were pretty pleased to see me go to be honest,’’ the 26-year-old said.
“I didn’t get that opportunity that I’ve since got at Sydney, there were a lot of guys ahead of me, so obviously I guess you never know what might have happened if I did get that chance in the ruck.’’
The 204-centimetre played two matches for Richmond in 2012: his Round 15 debut against Melbourne as a forward/back-up to Ivan Maric, and the following week in the backline against Gold Coast.
“I was drafted as a ruckman but never really played a senior game in the ruck at Richmond, so it’s only at Sydney that I’ve got that responsibility,’’ Derickx said.
“It’s amazing how that responsibility can make you a better player and give you that extra bit of confidence. Especially when the coaches show that faith in you. You feel like you owe it to them.’’
Derickx believes he has “matured a lot as a player’’ and has no issue with the way he was treated by the Tigers.
“Richmond were good to me. They looked after me for three years even when I had injuries,’’ he said.
“I sort of knew, and the club sort of knew that it was time to move on. I think they knew pretty early on that they were going to get Shaun Hampson, which obviously squeezed me out.’’
If he plays at the MCG on Friday might, Derickx will almost certainly find himself staring across the centre circle at Hampson at some stage.
“I don’t feel like I have a point to prove to (Richmond), more a point to prove to myself,’’ he said.
“If I get to play against the Tigers I’ll enjoy it. I’ve got a lot of good mates there — guys like Reece Conca, Dave Astbury, Dustin Martin and Shane Edwards — and there will probably be a few jokes flying around I’d say.’’
Just possibly the punchline might be about the Tigers discard who is a chance to play in a Swans premiership.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-ruckman-tom-derickx-says-he-holds-no-grudge-against-richmond-after-being-delisted/story-fni5f9jb-1226959101212
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“I spent three years there and didn’t do a hell of a lot
Gold Coast dropsy.
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Just possibly the punchline might be about the Tigers discard who is a chance to play in a Swans premiership.
Wouldn't be the first one and like Morton in recent times, it was a case of right place and right time. Just because they make a premiership side means squat, neither of them were/are any good but if Derrickx jags a flag then bloody good luck to him. A lot of champions never get the opportunity and guys like Morton and Derrickx are just the other side of that coin of fortune.
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But Mitch Morton kicked 2 goals in a grand final. Wasn't BOG but wasn't a complete passenger.
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He's a massive dud
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And yet people laugh at the possibility of. Griffiths. Arnot. Helbig. Elton. Darrou etc being serviceable at a decent football club . Ala. Swans/hawthorn/port etc.
He's a massive dud
I would prefer him over hampson.
(And a 2nd rounder would of been nice)
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He's a massive dud
yea but less of a dud than the one that replaced him
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He's a massive dud
yea but less of a dud than the one that replaced him
Absolutely correct.
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At the moment good enough to get into a possible premiership side .Obviously wasn't one of the coaches pets at Richmond , There are quite a few at richmond
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Good luck to him. Thrown a lifeline and making the most of it. Would have preferred him playing like this at RFC and keeping our 2nd round pick.
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They're both stuffing pathetic. We just paid the price of a second rounder for a sideways move.
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They're both stuffing pathetic. We just paid the price of a second rounder for a sideways move.
this wins.
well summed up sir
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They're both stuffing pathetic. We just paid the price of a second rounder for a sideways move.
this wins.
well summed up sir
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But Mitch Morton kicked 2 goals in a grand final. Wasn't BOG but wasn't a complete passenger.
Never said he was Lam but he was no good as a player over his career. Right player, right time and played well in the game that mattered. Still didn't stop him being flicked from the senior side as soon as next season started. Watch what happens to Derrickx when the Swans sort their ruck issues out. But as I said, bloody good luck to him if he jags a premiership medallion.
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But Mitch Morton kicked 2 goals in a grand final. Wasn't BOG but wasn't a complete passenger.
Never said he was Lam but he was no good as a player over his career. Right player, right time and played well in the game that mattered. Still didn't stop him being flicked from the senior side as soon as next season started. Watch what happens to Derrickx when the Swans sort their ruck issues out. But as I said, bloody good luck to him if he jags a premiership medallion.
You're right smokey regarding derickz being a stop gap until they sort out their ruck issues - something we could've done instead of wasting a 2nd rounder :help
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so where does it leave us in regards ruckmen capable of holding down the 1st ruck role.
at the start of next season
stephenson 32yo battler. really has to be cut. his spot should go to a junior rookie.
maric 29yo decent player but age and niggles are starting to catch up. just my opinion but we need to draft a youngh crash bash ruckman in preparation for ivans demise.
hampson 27 yo battler. his 7 yr performance history at carlton unfortunately is very accurate and we have a need to look elsewhere imo.
in short the long term outlook is dire. short term theres ivan and thats it. we must address this situation by taking two ruckmen one junior 18 - 21 one development 22- 24 if possible.
it is madness waiting until maric retires before we do a thing.
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Had more impact tonight than Ham n spud,
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Had more impact tonight than Ham n spud,
The Hamster could not take a mark tonight. My god I've never seen someone with the worst set of hands then this potato.
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Hammer played his best game for the club tonight. Not even kidding. :lol :lol
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Had more impact tonight than Ham n spud,
The Hamster could not take a mark tonight. My god I've never seen someone with the worst set of hands then this potato.
Is Angus graham available ?
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Anyone got a drum kit missing a couple of parts?
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Derrickx - 5.0
Hamspud - 1.2
The comeback begins....
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I liked the part when our ruckman couldn't get to the contest and lids went up against him and lids actually won