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Title: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: FNM on November 29, 2010, 07:51:15 AM
Good - bad - indifferent - dangerous - we have a right to know?
What's your opinion?

I personally have a bet each way on good and but, but think they're treading on dangerous ground.

Their latest caper:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/wikileaks-set-to-release-250000-documents/story-e6frf7lf-1225962494119

SPYING by the US on UN officials and sustained calls of Arab leaders to launch an attack on Iran are among the main revelations in the latest Wikileaks document release.
 The US State Department has a damage limitation exercise underway after the release of some 250,000 cables which reveal secret diplomatic backroom plans and frank assessments of world leaders.

One of the most damaging is a directive issued in Hillary Clinton’s name to US diplomats, ordering forensic details collected on top UN officials, including the secretary-general, Ban Ki-Moon, seeking their passwords and other means of access to their private communications networks.

Another cable quotes a source as saying China’s top political leaders ordered the hacking attacks on Google’s network there, and that it was carried out by government IT experts along with what the New York Times calls "internet outlaws" who have been attacking the online systems of companies from America and other countries since 2002.

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The documents also contain an allegation of "inappropriate behaviour" by a member of the British royal family.

Australia has not featured in the documents released so far, although Mrs Clinton raised the leak with Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd in a phone call last week.

Tensions with Iran are likely to run high this week, with the cables revealing leaders of other countries in the Middle East urging the US to launch an airstrike to debilitate the rogue nation’s nuclear program.

Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah repeatedly calls in one cable for the US to "cut the head off the snake" and stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

As was the case with two previous major document releases by Wikileaks, the website provided advance access to a number of media organisations including The New York Times and Britain’s Guardian newspaper ahead of their release, officially scheduled for 8.30am AEDT.

The New York Times reports that the "anticipated disclosure of the cables is already sending shudders through the diplomatic establishment, and could conceivably strain relations with some countries, influencing international affairs in ways that are impossible to predict".

The White House has condemned Wikileaks’ decision to release the files, calling it "dangerous and reckless action".

"By releasing stolen and classified documents, WikiLeaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals," the White House said.


Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 29, 2010, 12:19:10 PM
Good - bad - indifferent - dangerous - we have a right to know?
All of the above depending on what is being leaked. You wouldn't want any military plans leaked that put our soldiers lives at risk. Leaking what Arab leaders think of Iran is dangerous as the Iranian leader is up there with the North Koreans in the loopy stakes and he will use this as propaganda to remain in power :help.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on November 29, 2010, 01:53:29 PM
will Arab leaders trust USA with as much now they know whatever they say can be leaked in the future which would possibly strength there enemies. example Iran's leader will use this as propaganda to remain in power and invest more in military and nuclear bombs as FNM has already pointed out.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: cub on December 03, 2010, 03:44:48 PM
Heading for big trouble - heard it here first. :shh
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: wayne on December 03, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
Heading for big trouble - heard it here first. :shh

Julian?

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 03, 2010, 11:37:03 PM
Heading for big trouble - heard it here first. :shh

Julian?


Interpol closing in to arrest him. The American server of wikileaks was closed but its re-opened on a Swiss server.

http://213.251.145.96/
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on December 04, 2010, 05:21:46 PM
I think what Wikileaks has done is tested some ideals that the American people proudly claim as their own. For example, what is the difference between Wikileaks receiving information from whistleblowers and the NY times receiving the same information? The attempt to charge Wikileaks with espionage, rather than identifying the whistleblowers really destroys the suggestion that American society is built on a freedom of the press.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: FNM on December 04, 2010, 06:13:07 PM
I think what Wikileaks has done is tested some ideals that the American people proudly claim as their own. For example, what is the difference between Wikileaks receiving information from whistleblowers and the NY times receiving the same information? The attempt to charge Wikileaks with espionage, rather than identifying the whistleblowers really destroys the suggestion that American society is built on a freedom of the press.
The media think it's great.  Wikileaks exposes fodder for them to write about but with no responsibility.
Long after Julian has spent his 40 years in solitary confinement, they'll still be writing about Cablegate
Wondering why the head of their IT security hasn't been given the boot lol
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: FNM on December 07, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Arrested  :help
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ox on December 07, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
our effing soldiers shouldnt be there so idgaf.

Blame the ball-less dependent government of ours when they die,be it thru information exposed thru wikileaks or not.

stuff the suckers in the white house - corrupt effing terrorist dogs.

Now they've pinned him with rape charges - LMAO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11937110 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11937110)

Stinks of JFK all over again,and again,and again............


Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on December 07, 2010, 11:54:26 PM
Julian Assange is a great man. If you listen to him talk he is extremely intelligent, has a consistent philosophy that removing secrecy empowers citizens. He has broken no laws in regards too the leaks and has done the homework. For example, the reason they operate from Sweden is that it is against the law for Swedish publications to divulge their sources. The IT infrastructure is set up such that leakers leave no digital fingerprints. So if the Americans were to pressure him to reveal exactly who they are, 1) he couldn't do it and 2) it would be an assault on Swedish law. This is all US chest beating, a bunch of old dudes in Washington who don't understand technology and its capacity to change society.

It is a shame Julia G doesn't have the courage to stand up for an Australian who is innocent (even on the sexual assault charges he is innocent until proven guilty), but seems more intent on bending over for Barry O (what a weird fetish that would be - black on ginger). I hope he sues her flaming red labia off.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Carvels Ring on December 08, 2010, 10:47:52 AM
The aust govt wont do a thing unless Obama OKs it first.  They let Hick rot, now this guy probably.  the only exception is if u are a Gold coast lingerie model busted in bali with some green.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 11, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
The US are going to try a pin Assange on some 93-year-old Espionage Act

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/wiki_rat_spy_rap_at_hand_asfJMgWwJ5MmCk6R3hzaPJ
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on December 11, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
AFP or ASIO should investigate what Arbib told US ambassador make sure he didnt give out any state secrets.
One thing is reporting what his opinion is on how things are going but its another to be telling them upcoming things before us the PEOPLE of australia find out
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Fruity Morgan on December 17, 2010, 09:28:09 AM
Assange is copping all the poop for the leaks, but that doesn't stop the print media from jumping all over them.

And what's come out about Rudd, for example, that we didn't know already!
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 17, 2010, 03:30:46 PM
Assange has been release from jail by the High Court in London

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/julian-assange-released-vows-wikileaks-to-fight-on/story-e6frg6so-1225972511111

Justice Duncan Ouseley rejected an appeal against Mr Assange's bail by Swedish authorities, who claimed if he was set free he might flee rather than face charges in Sweden that he allegedly committed four sex offences against two women in what began as consensual sexual encounters.

Justice Ouseley said one reason he believed Mr Assange was unlikely to abscond was that the allegations against him in Sweden did not seem to be "a cast iron case... so he has some prospects of success".

Evidence that one Swedish prosecutor felt there was no case against Mr Assange before another prosecutor disagreed and decided to pursue the matter suggested that the case "would be one that could be resisted by an innocent man," said Justice Ouseley.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Penelope on December 17, 2010, 03:52:58 PM
The charge is that he refused to wear a condom!

un stuffing believable.

One of the women stalked him.

Scary poo.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on December 17, 2010, 06:14:45 PM
Assange is 100% innocent.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on December 19, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
Talk about poles part opinions. No real surprise one is from a politically conservative American  :P while the other from someone outside the US.

http://www.santamariatimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/commentary/article_0db104b6-0b35-11e0-a37b-001cc4c03286.html

http://www.stargazette.com/article/20101219/VIEWPOINTS02/12190307/1121/U.S.-has-right-to-know-details-on-WikiLeaks
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: FNM on February 24, 2011, 10:29:36 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/24/julian-assange-extradition-sweden-verdict

 Julian Assange to be extradited to SwedenWikiLeaks founder handed verdict at Belmarsh magistrates court

 
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is to be extradited to Sweden to face allegations of rape and sexual assault.

Assange has been fighting extradition since he was arrested and bailed in December. He has consistently denied the allegations, made by two women in August last year.

Howard Riddle, the chief magistrate, delivered his ruling at a hearing at Belmarsh magistrates court in London. It is unlikely to be the end of the matter, however, because an appeal is expected, which would delay the final decision until the summer at the latest.

At a two-day hearing earlier this month, his legal team argued that Assange would not receive a fair trial in Sweden. They said the European arrest warrant (EAW) issued by Sweden was invalid because the Australian had not been charged with any offence and that the alleged assaults would not be legitimate extraditable offences.

Assange fears that an extradition to Sweden would make it easier for Washington to extradite him to the US on possible charges relating to the release by WikiLeaks of leaked US embassy cables.

If this was to happen, Sweden would have to ask permission from the UK for the onward extradition. No such charges have been laid, though the website's activities are under investigation in the US.

The Swedish prosecutor, represented in court by the British Crown Prosecution Service, argued that despite the lack of charge, Assange was being sought for prosecution rather than merely for questioning, which meant the warrant was valid.

The most serious of the four allegations relates to an accusation that Assange, during a visit to Stockholm in August, had sex with a woman, Miss B, while she was sleeping and without a condom, and without her consent. Three counts of sexual assault are also alleged against another woman, Miss A. If found guilty of the rape charge he could face up to four years in prison.

Assange will now be detained in custody, because there is no system of bail in Sweden, until a possible trial or release.

The Australian ambassador to Sweden, Paul Stephens, wrote to the country's justice minister last week to insist that, if extradited, any possible case against Assange "would proceed in accordance with due process and the provisions prescribed under Swedish law, as well as applicable European and international laws, including relevant human rights norms".

EAWs were introduced in 2003 with the aim of making extradition swifter and easier between European member states. But campaigners have raised concerns about the application of the warrants, arguing that they are sometimes applied before a case is ready to prosecute, and that while they were originally intended to counter terrorism, their use has greatly increased. Seven hundred people were extradited from the UK under the system last year.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 24, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
the only thing this bloke is guilty of is that he is a good honest man not like these peddo's that parade out streets, who end up getting away with everything.

This bloke is the story of the year so far for me.

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: FNM on February 24, 2011, 11:27:29 PM
Not over yet
No doubt it'll be appealed
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on February 24, 2011, 11:37:14 PM
No date for a trial so he could be in custody for a very long time (months at least). Overseas law is often different but it's very suss to detain someone for that long without charge.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 25, 2011, 05:48:39 PM
the only thing this bloke is guilty of is that he is a good honest man not like these peddo's that parade out streets, who end up getting away with everything.

This bloke is the story of the year so far for me.



Yep he is a good honest man  ::)

Here's a bloke who's now suddenly calling himself an aussie again who you have to seriously question whether he actually even bothered to consider the consequences or the harm he was possibly going to inflict on the innocent people of the world (you know the ones average folks) with all his "wikileaks". His sole motivation was clearly about harming the most powerful leaders without a single thought to if could endanger others.

Yep he's a great bloke  ::)  :wallywink
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: dizza on March 10, 2011, 03:42:49 PM
Assange thinks he's a cult leader. Regardless of whether you agree with what Wikileaks is doing or not, it's hard not to notice that this bloke has let his "hero status" get the better of him, and his arrogance is just atrocious. Now that he's on trial, he's suddenly quite secretive about everything that's going on there. Very suspicious, maybe he's got something to hide? He should stop acting as though everyone hates poor Julian and grow up.

All of this isn't to say that transparency is a bad thing, just that Assange is not the person to be the face of working towards it!
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: 1965 on March 10, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
the only thing this bloke is guilty of is that he is a good honest man not like these peddo's that parade out streets, who end up getting away with everything.

This bloke is the story of the year so far for me.



Yep he is a good honest man  ::)

Here's a bloke who's now suddenly calling himself an aussie again who you have to seriously question whether he actually even bothered to consider the consequences or the harm he was possibly going to inflict on the innocent people of the world (you know the ones average folks) with all his "wikileaks". His sole motivation was clearly about harming the most powerful leaders without a single thought to if could endanger others.

Yep he's a great bloke  ::)  :wallywink

You need to check your facts even the Americans are quietly saying that nobody was at risk.

All propaganda BS by the yanks.

 :lol
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 10, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
You need to check your facts even the Americans are quietly saying that nobody was at risk.

All propaganda BS by the yanks.

 :lol

I wasn't referring to Americans  ::)
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: 1965 on March 10, 2011, 06:41:23 PM
You need to check your facts even the Americans are quietly saying that nobody was at risk.

All propaganda BS by the yanks.

 :lol

I wasn't referring to Americans  ::)

I didn't say you were...  ::)

But it was the Americans who were Wikileaks fiercest opponents.

And they now are backing away from some of the more emotional claims.



Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 10, 2011, 07:39:24 PM
You need to check your facts even the Americans are quietly saying that nobody was at risk.

All propaganda BS by the yanks.

 :lol

I wasn't referring to Americans  ::)

I didn't say you were...  ::)

But it was the Americans who were Wikileaks fiercest opponents.

And they now are backing away from some of the more emotional claims.

I reckon some of the stuff released has been dangerous - there are alot of nutters in the world

I think Assange is a moron, who wanted his "15 mins" of fame no matter what and gave no consideration to anyone or what the implications of his actions would be

As I said he aint no "great bloke"
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 17, 2012, 04:43:32 AM
Ecuador grants asylum to Julian Assange

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/ecuador-to-announce-assange-asylum-britain-threat-to-raid-embassy/story-fnd134gw-1226451503293

It doesn't really change his situation. He can't leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London to go to Heathrow and fly to Ecuador as the Brits are waiting outside the embassy to arrest him.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 17, 2012, 07:06:28 AM
You need to check your facts even the Americans are quietly saying that nobody was at risk.

All propaganda BS by the yanks.

 :lol

I wasn't referring to Americans  ::)

:lol
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 06, 2016, 02:41:25 AM
The UN human rights panel has released its reasoning for finding WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been “arbitrarily detained” by Britain and Sweden since December 2010, and should be freed and compensated.

UK police, however, insist he still faces arrest. Downing St said the ruling was not binding and that the arrest warrant will remain in place.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/uk-rejects-un-finding-that-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-has-been-arbitrarily-detained/news-story/a5c122f2cd92a9a9f6e8279248ab8098#load-story-comments
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 06, 2016, 07:28:48 AM
Not going to happen and sadly never will. The bloke will die in there
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 06, 2016, 01:50:40 PM
aussie
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oi
oi
oi
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 06, 2016, 02:11:12 PM
Not sure how one can be "detained" when one voluntarily cowardly went running to the Ecuador to hide
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 06, 2016, 02:58:02 PM
cause he would of been killed or stuck in a hole in g-bay for 40 years ?
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on February 06, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
He will leave soon, so we'll see soon enough if Sweden just want to question him or whether the good Ol US of A will have him whisked onto a plane to G bay
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 06, 2016, 11:41:51 PM
Not sure how one can be "detained" when one voluntarily cowardly went running to the Ecuador to hide

coward?  I would have done the same any day of the week. Sweden is a small player in this even i can see that.

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 06, 2016, 11:44:19 PM
He will leave soon, so we'll see soon enough if Sweden just want to question him or whether the good Ol US of A will have him whisked onto a plane to G bay

i dont think so TM unless he has something official from british police which isnt likely.

I think he will die in the embassy or die in the states with Eddie Snowden
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 07, 2016, 06:01:00 PM
Not sure how one can be "detained" when one voluntarily cowardly went running to the Ecuador to hide

coward?  I would have done the same any day of the week. Sweden is a small player in this even i can see that.

So you'd go running to hide in an embassy, when you've supposedly got nothing to hide leaving your kids behind and then sook about not being able to see your kids and being  persecuted?

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 07, 2016, 06:47:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_site

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_site#Specific_facts_surrounding_sites
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on February 07, 2016, 10:55:24 PM
Not sure how one can be "detained" when one voluntarily cowardly went running to the Ecuador to hide

coward?  I would have done the same any day of the week. Sweden is a small player in this even i can see that.


So you'd go running to hide in an embassy, when you've supposedly got nothing to hide leaving your kids behind and then sook about not being able to see your kids and being  persecuted?
No I wouldn't but in not in his position and neither are you so sit down champ

Perhaps he thinks this is his only chance of seeing his kids again. His jail bound the second he walks into Sweden unless a deal is brokered.

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on February 07, 2016, 11:40:08 PM
There's more to the story than the media writes
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 09, 2016, 03:46:44 PM
 Wp

Your bubblegum and lollipops world view is refreshing yet bizarre
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 09, 2016, 04:42:36 PM
Wp

Your bubblegum and lollipops world view is refreshing yet bizarre

Please give me a break

You think  Assange is some sort of hero

I think he is a grubby little coward who believes in  his own self importance

Has no respect for this country or its citizen's

But then has the audacity to sook that this country that he has treated with nothing but disdain doesn't look after him

He is a gutless, pathetic individual

He aint no hero
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 09, 2016, 05:15:23 PM
Done more heroic things than u
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Petey on February 09, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
He is a great man tbh
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 09, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Wp?

He's alright
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 09, 2016, 05:59:58 PM
Done more heroic things than u

 :lol  :rollin

Really?

Name one "heroic"  thing he has done?

And don't use his pathetic "wikileaks" as an example

Nothing heroic about wikileaks

IMESHO (and last time I checked we are still allowed to have them) he is a gutless coward. His actions of the last
3 or whatever number of years he's been hiding in the Ecuador embassy proves it.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 09, 2016, 06:17:06 PM
Done more heroic things than u

 :lol  :rollin

Really?

Name one "heroic"  thing he has done?

And don't use his pathetic "wikileaks" as an example

Nothing heroic about wikileaks

IMESHO (and last time I checked we are still allowed to have them) he is a gutless coward. His actions of the last
3 or whatever number of years he's been hiding in the Ecuador embassy proves it.

All I'll say WP, is the reality of the people and structures who are after him are way different to what you must believe in.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on September 02, 2016, 01:21:35 PM
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-02/romanian-hacker-guccifer-sentenced-to-52-months-in-us-prison/7807498?pfmredir=sm
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on September 19, 2016, 10:46:34 AM
Done more heroic things than u

 :lol  :rollin

Really?

Name one "heroic"  thing he has done?

And don't use his pathetic "wikileaks" as an example

Nothing heroic about wikileaks

IMESHO (and last time I checked we are still allowed to have them) he is a gutless coward. His actions of the last
3 or whatever number of years he's been hiding in the Ecuador embassy proves it.

All I'll say WP, is the reality of the people and structures who are after him are way different to what you must believe in.
...the day Edward Snowden came public with NSA information (including the PRISM program), Katy Perry released an album titled PRISM, which showed up first when people Googled for PRISM that day.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on October 11, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
All the articles referencing ETIs and/or UFOs so far:

Tom Delonge meeting with General McCasland about Roswell incident and disclosure. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3099

Tom Delonge thanking Poesta for his help with UFO documentary, references their “sensitive topic” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2125

Jim Davidson thanks Podesta for his work towards “disclosure”, Podesta replies “more to come” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2505

Sarah Feinberg to Sara Latham about John Podesta and “breaking truth embargo” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4065

Juan Pieczanski & Podesta convo about “UFO disclosure” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3289

Edgar D Mitchell on disclosure, Vatican awareness of ETI, and space weapons. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766

Edgar D Mitchell on “ETI in contiguous universe” and communications between earth and ETI. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Stalin on October 11, 2016, 06:38:19 PM
(https://i.redd.it/6y4bglf81qqx.png)
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on November 07, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
WikiLeaks Twitter has given Hilary 24 hours to resign or a 'bombshell' will be dropped. Meanwhile DNC communications manager has put out a press statement asking voters to disregard any last minute leak from WikiLeaks because it is"'probably going to be fake". BTW Assange is by any definition: a hero.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on November 08, 2016, 11:56:56 AM
any idea what this bombshell is about?
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ivan on November 10, 2016, 01:13:43 PM
Occult-pedo stuff perhaps

Assange, what a guy!  :bow
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2016, 01:44:01 PM
Pauline Hanson has released a statement asking for President Elect Trump to free Assange and pardon him because of all the truly great things he's done

She called him a true hero (Assange not Trump in this instance)

Source: *** all twitter ***
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 10, 2016, 02:09:08 PM
So exposing lies and corruption by government isn't cool?

How so??
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ivan on November 10, 2016, 07:44:00 PM

WikiLeaks
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Assange Statement on the US Election

8 November 2016
By Julian Assange

In recent months, WikiLeaks and I personally have come under enormous pressure to stop publishing what the Clinton campaign says about itself to itself. That pressure has come from the campaign’s allies, including the Obama administration, and from liberals who are anxious about who will be elected US President.

On the eve of the election, it is important to restate why we have published what we have.

The right to receive and impart true information is the guiding principle of WikiLeaks – an organization that has a staff and organizational mission far beyond myself. Our organization defends the public’s right to be informed.

This is why, irrespective of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election, the real victor is the US public which is better informed as a result of our work.

The US public has thoroughly engaged with WikiLeaks’ election related publications which number more than one hundred thousand documents. Millions of Americans have pored over the leaks and passed on their citations to each other and to us. It is an open model of journalism that gatekeepers are uncomfortable with, but which is perfectly harmonious with the First Amendment.

We publish material given to us if it is of political, diplomatic, historical or ethical importance and which has not been published elsewhere. When we have material that fulfills this criteria, we publish. We had information that fit our editorial criteria which related to the Sanders and Clinton campaign (DNC Leaks) and the Clinton political campaign and Foundation (Podesta Emails). No-one disputes the public importance of these publications. It would be unconscionable for WikiLeaks to withhold such an archive from the public during an election.

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We publish as fast as our resources will allow and as fast as the public can absorb it.

That is our commitment to ourselves, to our sources, and to the public.

This is not due to a personal desire to influence the outcome of the election. The Democratic and Republican candidates have both expressed hostility towards whistleblowers. I spoke at the launch of the campaign for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, because her platform addresses the need to protect them. This is an issue that is close to my heart because of the Obama administration’s inhuman and degrading treatment of one of our alleged sources, Chelsea Manning. But WikiLeaks publications are not an attempt to get Jill Stein elected or to take revenge over Ms Manning’s treatment either.

Publishing is what we do. To withhold the publication of such information until after the election would have been to favour one of the candidates above the public’s right to know.

This is after all what happened when the New York Times withheld evidence of illegal mass surveillance of the US population for a year until after the 2004 election, denying the public a critical understanding of the incumbent president George W Bush, which probably secured his reelection. The current editor of the New York Times has distanced himself from that decision and rightly so.

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In the end, those who have attempted to malign our groundbreaking work over the past four months seek to inhibit public understanding perhaps because it is embarrassing to them – a reason for censorship the First Amendment cannot tolerate. Only unsuccessfully do they try to claim that our publications are inaccurate.

WikiLeaks’ decade-long pristine record for authentication remains. Our key publications this round have even been proven through the cryptographic signatures of the companies they passed through, such as Google. It is not every day you can mathematically prove that your publications are perfect but this day is one of them.

We have endured intense criticism, primarily from Clinton supporters, for our publications. Many long-term supporters have been frustrated because we have not addressed this criticism in a systematic way or responded to a number of false narratives about Wikileaks’ motivation or sources. Ultimately, however, if WL reacted to every false claim, we would have to divert resources from our primary work.

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Yet if the press obeys considerations above informing the public, we are no longer talking about a free press, and we are no longer talking about an informed public.

Wikileaks remains committed to publishing information that informs the public, even if many, especially those in power, would prefer not to see it. WikiLeaks must publish. It must publish and be damned.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 10, 2016, 09:18:50 PM
Re the above

Post the link where it comes from or it will have to be removef
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on November 10, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
 :lol

Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on November 11, 2016, 12:30:40 AM
Pauline Hanson has released a statement asking for President Elect Trump to free Assange and pardon him because of all the truly great things he's done

She called him a true hero (Assange not Trump in this instance)

Source: *** all twitter ***

Re the above

Post the link where it comes from or it will have to be removef

 ;D
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 11, 2016, 01:00:04 AM
Hanson releases statements.

Assange releases data
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 11, 2016, 06:49:40 AM
Pauline Hanson has released a statement asking for President Elect Trump to free Assange and pardon him because of all the truly great things he's done

She called him a true hero (Assange not Trump in this instance)

Source: *** all twitter ***

Re the above

Post the link where it comes from or it will have to be removef

 ;D

I actually did say where it came from

but here you go

https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz





Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on November 11, 2016, 10:46:12 AM
Snowden live on Alex Jones atm.
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Ivan on November 11, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
Re the above

Post the link where it comes from or it will have to be removef

https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement-on-the-US-Election.html
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 11, 2019, 11:06:35 PM
Set my namesake free......:shh
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 12, 2019, 11:07:04 AM
as predicted the usual vultures will come and lay charges for anything they can come up with

biggest injustice is what will happen to this guy now.



Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 12, 2019, 01:36:56 PM
Set my namesake free......:shh

There is a thread about Wikileaks and him that no ones botbered with for 3 years. This should be there npt here

as predicted the usual vultures will come and lay charges for anything they can come up with

biggest injustice is what will happen to this guy now.

 :lol...dont think Ecuador will bother, though they'd have cause. Think they are just glad he is gone

Biggest injustice will be if nothing happens to him now  :rollin
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 12, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Set my namesake free......:shh

There is a thread about Wikileaks and him that no ones botbered with for 3 years. This should be there npt here

as predicted the usual vultures will come and lay charges for anything they can come up with

biggest injustice is what will happen to this guy now.

 :lol...dont think Ecuador will bother, though they'd have cause. Think they are just glad he is gone

Biggest injustice will be if nothing happens to him now  :rollin

Oh really mate. What is ya problem?

I'm supposed to search for a thread that is 3 years old even though this is a political issue?

Move it yourself pal
Title: Re: Wikileaks/Assange [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 12, 2019, 06:31:31 PM
Right now it is an international diplomacy and criminal matter. He has been arrested by the Brits, the US are trying to get him extradited, while Sweden is looking at doing the same.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/what-next-for-julian-assange-the-conversation/10999130

Anyway, I've moved the Assange discussion here.