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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 05, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
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Hartford and Wallace on SEN were just discussing this now. If you could add any 3 Tigers of the past to our current side who would they be?
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Royce Hart, Roy wright and KB could slot in somewhere
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Royce Hart: because we need a CHF. Or someone who can take a grab around 40 to 50 out.
Kevin Bartlett: because he would add class to the midfield.
Merv Keane: because I always reckoned he was underrated by our supporters and he was a terrific player who add substantial class off half back.
Apologies to about 80 blokes but in particular to Mopsy Fraser. Would have loved to see him beat the crap out of some opponents on the G.
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Jack Dyer in the ruck :bow He'd sort out a few of these 7ft pansies;
Royce Hart at CHF, and Jack Reiwoldt as the second forward;
Fred Swift at full back.
You'd get 500,000 people to the 'G to watch the game, especially if we were playing Collingwood.
:cheers
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Hart, Bartlett and Clay
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Richo, Knights and Mark Lee.
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1/ Jack Dyer by along way - would just love to see him playin the Yellow & Black
2/ Royce Hart - because I can't remember him that well because I was only 10 when he retired
And because I saw a fair bit of KB growing up I'd love to see:
3/ Bill Morris or Jack Titus
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Richo
Stafford
Hart
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The General - Mark Lee - in the ruck
Mr Magic - Maurice Rioli - in the midfield
Jumping Jim Jess as the CHB/CHF swingman
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hmm we desperately need a fb chf and ruckman. for me dyer in the ruck he also fills the enforcer need.
chf to hart but i want the royce hart before his knee went.
swift is the full back.
could do with someone like the ghost at chb as well.
some other needs we have atm.
small forward bartlett. or skinny titus. sheesh just think of a a froward line containing riewoldt hart titus and bartlett
second ruckman lee.
another enforcer in percy bentley the true wild man in richmonds history.
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hmm we desperately need a fb chf and ruckman. for me dyer in the ruck he also fills the enforcer need.
chf to hart but i want the royce hart before his knee went.
swift is the full back.
could do with someone like the ghost at chb as well.
some other needs we have atm.
small forward bartlett. or skinny titus. sheesh just think of a a froward line containing riewoldt hart titus and bartlett
second ruckman lee.
another enforcer in percy bentley the true wild man in richmonds history.
no support for Mopsy claw? I would have thought you would have supported some well chosen acts of thuggery.
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Richo, Stafford or Lee, Gasper or Jim Jess
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Like others have said would have loved to include others eg Naish
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whoops was thinking of mopsy when i wrote percy bently. mopsy was truly the wildest man who ever pulled on a boot for richmond.my old man regaled me with stories of jack and mopsy, would take both in a heart beat in fact they are must haves in any richmond side.
i still recall the story as told by jack dyer of mopsy taking on the 3 twomey brothers at victoria park and causing a riot. the whole team needed a police escort to get out of there.
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Richo
Vic Thorp
Jack Titus
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Capt blood
Rich
Rioli
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Royce Hart & KB for certain.
With the final slot do you go for class - Bourke, Dyer, Titus, Clay, Stewart, Weightman, Rioli, Raines, Richo... tough call.
Or do we go for needs
At small forward the best I saw in yellow and black was Nathan Brown before he snapped his leg.
Or do we go for a ruckman... Lee was before my time, but I'm thinking Brad Ottens. He did play for us - I reckon the 18 year old Ottens would be snapped up in today's draft as the ideal "ruck/fwd" - he was all australian at 21 after all.
I'd go with Captain Blood. You can't beat greatness.
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Got a question for the old timers - what was Ian Stewart like? He was before my time - but multiple brownlows says he must've been pretty useful.
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Like others have said would have loved to include others eg Naish
Dude you're off your nut ! Surely you jest ? So you've gone Stafford ( as someone else unbelievably did ) and Naish ?? Let me guess your third choice. Is it The Magnificent One...Todd Menegola ?
Three R's for me.. Richo , Raines , Rioli...and Francis Bourke would be handy
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Love Richo to death but no.
and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
KB because he could really turn it on for the finals.
Billy Barrot so he could teach the youngsters how to do a drop kick.
and Royce Hart at CHF
:cheers
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and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
:cheers
Jack Dyer was too small to compete?
You must be kidding - there was no one bigger, or better, for any club.
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and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
:cheers
Jack Dyer was too small to compete?
You must be kidding - there was no one bigger, or better, for any club.
Played at 185cm and 89 kg.
A legend but not for these times.
:thumbsup
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JON was fair bit taller
and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
:cheers
Jack Dyer was too small to compete?
You must be kidding - there was no one bigger, or better, for any club.
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and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
:cheers
Jack Dyer was too small to compete?
You must be kidding - there was no one bigger, or better, for any club.
Played at 185cm and 89 kg.
A legend but not for these times.
:thumbsup
I'm not knocking you mate but Jack Dyer is THE LEGEND of footy - timeless.
No one came close, the big guys and the little guys all fell to his power and skill.
:cheers
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same size as conca 8)
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Hungry.... definitely need a crumber to pick up what Jack spills
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same size as conca 8)
Hart, KB and Lee if we are looking for players that can fill a role/need in today's side. Dyer, Titus and Mopsy if I could indulge a wish to see them in action.
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Got a question for the old timers - what was Ian Stewart like? He was before my time - but multiple brownlows says he must've been pretty useful.
Extremely skillful and had football smarts to burn. Not what you would call "in and under" in today's parlance but was very damaging (especially on his left foot but was very good on his right) delivering into the forward line.
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ROACH
RIOLI
JESS
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Love Richo to death but no.
Enjoying this thread... Just a straight up NO for Richo from you nzseteb hujfufu cuig ?
Enlighten me mate ?
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I wouldn't say no to old Richo floating around on the wing and resting deep forward. Well stuff, I wouldn't say no to that idea if I was coaching now ;D I love that beast.
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Nahas - Richo - King
Titus - Riewoldt - Martin/Cotchin
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Love Richo to death but no.
Enjoying this thread... Just a straight up NO for Richo from you nzseteb hujfufu cuig ?
Enlighten me mate ?
One of the most exciting players to play the game.
but if we are talking about putting people into our current structure then Richo doesn't fit.
It comes down to the the fact that I would prefer Jack to Richo.
:(
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Roger Dean an underrated leader and backman.
Royce Hart to play CHF and come on to the ground injured as he did in the 73 Prelim and change the game. Big game matchwinner.
Michael Greene ruckman who was a great tap ruckman and had a prescence around the ground with real footy smarts.
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Roger Dean an underrated leader and backman.
Royce Hart to play CHF and come on to the ground injured as he did in the 73 Prelim and change the game. Big game matchwinner.
Michael Greene ruckman who was a great tap ruckman and had a prescence around the ground with real footy smarts.
Michael Green won us a couple of flags but at 193cm too small to play ruck in the modern game.
:thumbsup
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Richo, Royce & Dyer
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A few more recent ones: Richo (just because he almost was the heart and soul of the club for over a decade), Benny Gale (was a top quality ruckman, something we're in desperate need of), and Wayne Campbell (solid contributor over a long period of time who gave his all every game).
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Given what Dimma's done with the likes of Rance, Nahas and King - what would he do with a 17 year old Richo?
If only... :cheers
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Given what Dimma's done with the likes of Rance, Nahas and King - what would he do with a 17 year old Richo?
If only... :cheers
teach him how to fly maybe! :gotigers
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Lee
Hart
Bartlett
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Piper I hope you are not saying that Naish was a poor player because if do that is the same logic as saying Ty Esler was the greatest ruckman at the club. As for Stafford he was a good contested mark which is what we need now in the case you haven't noticed. Agree with comments about Gale
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Given what Dimma's done with the likes of Rance, Nahas and King - what would he do with a 17 year old Richo?
If only... :cheers
What a thought.
OK I change my picks to
KB (to kick 30 goals in a finals series),
Billy Barrot (to teach the kids how to do a drop kick)
and Richo (as a 17yo)
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Piper I hope you are not saying that Naish was a poor player because if do that is the same logic as saying Ty Esler was the greatest ruckman at the club. As for Stafford he was a good contested mark which is what we need now in the case you haven't noticed.
Don't be ridiculous Limmy ! Steven O'Dwyer was clearly the greatest ruckman in RFC history ;D
Oh and yes that was exactly what I was saying about Naish. He was average at best. Had a reasonably good season in 1995 and that's about it. Ask Port Adelaide how good he was.
Stafford was ok but I could name 100 ex tiger players I'd have in today's team before him.
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Stafford was a quality ruckman. Pity he went hunting for blood more often than Dan Jackson.
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Rioli, Barrot, Hart. All game winners and great finishers
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I totally disagree with you Piper. Naish consistently played good football for the club not just in 1995. He was a good mark for his size. As for Strawbs saying he was worse than Esler is like saying Estaugh was a brilliant ruckman
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and not a ruckman, they are all way to small to compete.
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Jack Dyer was too small to compete?
You must be kidding - there was no one bigger, or better, for any club.
jack was big for his times sheesh royce hart was only 187cm even brereton and dunstall were short compared to today both only 188cm i think.
look at it this way if jack was born in 1985 and played today he would probably be well over 190cm. for his time he was a damn good size.
the fact is it is amazing how much player heights have grown since about 1990as each generation goes by we are getting taller quicker and in a lot of cases bigger. daryl baldock was only 5ft 10in and played a lot of his footy for stkilda at chf.
Played at 185cm and 89 kg.
A legend but not for these times.
:thumbsup
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look at it this way if jack was born in 1985 and played today he would probably be well over 190cm. for his time he was a damn good size.
;D
Claw, please accept my comments in the manner in which they are intended. At face value that is a funny comment but I fully get what you are saying and I agree! :thumbsup
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Most of our great rucks of the past wouldn't make it as ruckmen nowdays:
Dyer 185cm 89kg
Wright 188cm 102kg
Morris 188cm 86kg
Bentley 183cm 87kg
Green 193cm 94kg
Mark Lee is probably the only one who is around modern day ruck height at 199cm and even then he is at the lower end these days.
As for KPPs Titus was as tall as Jake King and Vic Thorp as tall as Axel :o. Swift was 183cm so as big as Newy.
We still need more class and depth so imagine adding Stewart, KB & Rioli to Dusty, Cotch and co. in the midfield. Who needs a backline then! ;D
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I totally disagree with you Piper. Naish consistently played good football for the club not just in 1995. He was a good mark for his size. As for Strawbs saying he was worse than Esler is like saying Estaugh was a brilliant ruckman
Mate seriously....Chris Naish was an average player full stop. He had ONE good season and that is just a fact.
Good tiger man tho till we shipped him off to Port Adelaide seconds.
And yeh I was just kiddin about O'Dwyer.... Slater and Trewellin were streets ahead of him.
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I think Benny Gale was a good ruckman for us. He just seemed to get better and better. He would get a game ahead any of our ruckman right now. He always read the play so well dropping back in defence and pinch hitting up forward.
Roach was a great full forward. As exciting as any forward ever. He would fly for everything and most times he brought the footy down with him. I was there in '79 game against the hawks when he took that monster mark and landed on his head. I had so many posters of him taking marks on my wall that I had no room left for anything else such was the amount of great marks he took.
KB was and is my alltime favorite player. I would love to see him playing again running rings around everyone, lifting his arms after he kicks a goal.
Richo must be looking at Dusty, Cotchin and Lids now and he must be asking "where were these guys and great delivery when I was up forward?". Without all the pressure on him to kick ALL the goals I doubt he would've missed as many.