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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on February 09, 2005, 04:38:16 PM
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Just got back and will give a quick summary before going into more detail later on as well as adding some pics.
Teams were split in probables (black) and possibles (white) with the blacks a far stronger side to the tune of 122 points :o. The whites had a number of Coburg players which I didn't recongize. Terry said the Blacks were the "18" and the 24 for the Wiz cup would come from the whites.
Final Scores:
Blacks: 4.5 8.11 16.15 22.17-149
Whites: 2.3 3.3 3.8 3.9-27
Goal scores (I was up one end so may have confused one or two players):
Blacks: Richo 6.3 (from 2 and bit qtrs) + 1 OOF lol, Tambling 3.4, Simmonds 2.3, Roach 2.1, Schulz 2.0, Krakouer 2.2, Hyde 2.1, Tivs 1, Graham 1, Bowden 1.
Whites: Tuck 2, Gilmour 1.
Best:
Blacks: Hyde, Tivs, Simmonds, Richo, Krakouer, Johnson, Bowden, Deledio (absolute gun - skill ++++++), Rodan.
Whites: Gilmour (good games in a smashed side). Raines, Meyer and Tuck battled on.
Teams:
Blacks: Gas, Deledio, Simmonds, Roach, Bowden, Richo, Rodan, Jackson, Cogs, Schulz, Pattison, Krakouer, Johnson (c), Tambling, Hyde, Tivs, Graham, Newman, Kellaway + Coburg players McKinnon and Kurret (think he was No. 42).
Whites: Raines, Chaffey, Cambo, Stafford, Polo, Limbach, Tuck, Meyer, Gilmour, Hartigan, Archibald, McGuane, Moore + Coburgers Rix, Remmington, Nick Raines, May (No. 31) and Randello.
Absent: Browny (slight niggle in the hamstring. Coached the Blacks while Terry looked on), Hilton, Hall, Pettifer, Knobel.
Brief Summary:
First quarter both sides went wide and I thought what's going on here. Blacks straightened up and dominated the corridor after quarter time. They could have been miles ahead at half time if they had kicked straight. Some pretty simple set shots missed. Whites fell down badly across HF and the game became a procession after half time.
Simmonds and Richo combined well swapping b/w HF and FF. Just too strong for Archibald and Rix although the ball came down their way frequently.
Tambling played FF after half time with Simmonds just in front of him leading to leave Tambo one out against Polo. Only pick on Tambling is he was a bit lazy with some of his kicks and he needs to take a few more steps and kick through the ball when having shots at goal. Terry said Tambling was a bit rigid and conservative today. He would normally have run around when on an angle. Apart from that very good at this role with a lovely volley goal in the 3rd quarter. Also ran down Hartigan (who looked a bit out of sorts today) once and almost got him again.
Deledio and Tivs set up attacks nicely off HB. Deledio didn't miss one single target and he would hit teammates so precisely they didn't have to break stride.
Hyde blitzed especially after half time. Looked to me like he has gained some pace. Took guys on a couple of times and ran away from them.
Krakouer had a top game with very clean hands in the midfield. I think he copped a knock to the calf but should be right for the Wiz Cup.
Wallace very happy when interviewed after the game. I'd reckon the way Richo and Simmonds worked together along with a small in a very open forward line lit up his eyes.
Cogs played a quarter and Terry said he would be adding basically an extra quarter per week.
Stafford played first half
Richo played 2 and a bit quarters bagging 6.
That's it for now.
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Thanks for the report MT.
Can you tell us a little about how Gaspar went (did the ball even go near him? lol), and also some others like Newman, Raines, Meyer, Gilmour.
Were all the boys trying or was it a bit half hearted?
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Thanks for the report MT.
Can you tell us a little about how Gaspar went (did the ball even go near him? lol), and also some others like Newman, Raines, Meyer, Gilmour.
Were all the boys trying or was it a bit half hearted?
Gas actually did well defending the few times the ball went forward for the whites. He even ran the length of the ground in the final quarter linking up with handball. Need to see him against better forwards before saying he's back or not. At the 3/4 time huddle the coaching staff seemed pleased with his efforts as he got a special mention.
Gilmour or as he's called "Gilly" played very well for the whites given they were getting pumped. Best by far IMHO. I would say he played more as outside midfielder but he seemed to do everything right today. Ran to offer an option, marked, kicked and handballed well. Hard to judge Raines and Meyer as it was one way traffic. They kept putting their body in but were overwhelmed by numbers. The blacks always had more numbers around every contest (which usually means they are running harder). Newman was solid. Played mainly in defence with a couple of stints in the middle and up forward.
I should say putting on my harsh hat that in the first half we (blacks) still missed too many targets (ball bouncing in front of teammate) compared to the standard we need to get to. Second half was much much better although it was one-sided so you'd expect that. Our entry in the forward line was very pleasing. We actually switched the play can you believe that ;). Everyone dragged their oppenents to one side leaving room for Tamblng to easily lead into and mark.
With the game itself the boys were trying. I wouldn't say it was half-hearted. There were some nice hits in contests. Only thing I saw that was half-hearted was a bailed-out tackle that could have cleaned up one "white" player who was set up with a hospital pass.
All in all one side was just far too big, strong and well-machined for the other.
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Good news about Gilmour. Would be great if he can add another option in the midfield for us, if not this year then the next. We definitely need it.
Hopefully Gas can get back the speed he had becuase our backline looks more fragile than a haemophiliac. We need him to be at his best.
Great to hear Hyde appears to have added soe pace as well. Would help him no end if he is to assume tagging duties.
How did old man Campbell go? Still running on the spot and holding up play? Was he playing in the forward line?
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How did old man Campbell go? Still running on the spot and holding up play? Was he playing in the forward line?
Um... ;D. Did you ever watch the Goodies where in one epsiode they went to Wales to play for the Druids in the rugby comp b/w different Christian faiths? Anyway the Pope played for the Catholics and he would be in one of those chairs where he would be given the ball and 6 blokes would carry him in it from one end to the other to score without an opponent being able to tackle him. That comes to mind as an option when I think of Cambo in 2005 lol.
In all seriousness he played for the whites and only got the footy now and then and was hardly sighted. I didn't notice him up forward for them at any stage. Chaffey was also hardly seen after quarter time.
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ROFLFMLAOOO!
He's been carrying a few blokes over the years, so I guess it's about time they carried him.
lmfaooooo@the Goodies. Farrken awesome show.
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Terrific Tambling
4:47:04 PM Wed 9 February, 2005
Matt Burgan
Sportal
Electrifying Richmond recruit Richard Tambling has already got the yellow and black faithful rubbing their hands with excitement after the young Northern Territorian shone in his first intra-club hit-out on Wednesday at McHale Stadium.
Tambling, who was the fourth player selected in last year's National Bank's AFL Draft, was a standout performer for the 'Probables' - a team made up of players likely to feature in Richmond first Wizard Home Loans Cup match against Collingwood next Friday.
He kicked three goals and had several shots at goal against the 'Possibles'. New Richmond coach Terry Wallace was particularly pleased with Tambling's hit-out.
"He was really good. Obviously he missed his opportunities at goal. He could have kicked two or three more with a few set-shot misses but he's a quality player and that's why you don't go in the top four of the draft unless you are that," Wallace said.
Wallace added that he was encouraging Tambling to use his natural flair.
"I thought a couple of times when he had shots on goals on angles, perhaps at under-18 level he would've taken off and almost kick them (Jeff) Farmer-like, where here he was a bit more rigid and a bit more stiff on his approach on his set-shot goalkicking," Wallace said.
"The sooner that he can just relax and play his natural game, which he's learning to do pretty quickly, I think the better (he'll be)."
Wallace said Tambling and Brett Deledio - the first player selected in last year's National Bank's AFL Draft - were likely to play in next Friday night's pre-season opener.
Other highlights in the intra-club match included the strong performance up forward by 'Probables' captain Matthew Richardson, who along with Joel Bowden, Nathan Brown and Kane Johnson, is vying for the Richmond captaincy in 2005.
"He dominated the first-half of the game. He obviously came off in the latter part but I just liked the ability to be able to swing him from full-forward to centre half-forward and have that availability of a few other targets," Wallace said of Richardson.
Bowden and Johnson were also fine players, while Brown did not play due to hamstring tightness.
Deledio, veteran recruit Mark Graham, youngster Tom Roach and the mature-aged Shane Tuck were also noticeable performers.
Ruckman/forward Greg Stafford played half a match, while midfielder Mark Coughlan played a quarter, but Wallace said the match committee was preparing the 2003 Jack Dyer medalist for round one of the home-and-away season.
Wallace said Stafford was a chance to play in the opening round of the Wizard Cup
Andrew Krakouer received a kick to the calf late in the match, but Wallace expected him to be available for next Friday night's clash.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=184647
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I'm pretty sure Campbell and Chaffey spent nearly all of the second half on the bench MT. Definitely all of the last quarter.
In the last quarter heaps of players were rested, there was only 15 per side on the field. I think Coughlan was boundary umpiire in the third quarter on the outer side.
I thought Hartigan was pretty close to best for the whites. Gilmour looked good, and I think Nick Raines probably played a bit better than Andrew. Andrew's disposal is better.
Gaspar didn't get a touch in the first quarter but improved after that.
Pattison looks a good ruck prospect.
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Deledio stood out more in the awesome stakes. Barring injury touchwood, this guy's skills will make him an absolute gun! He's still got a way to go before he dominates a full game but every possession of his was unbelievably classy. If Denis Cometti is commentating the "centimetre perfect" line of his will get a fair workout. From a poor ol' suffering Richmond supporter viewpoint he could be the complete package - skill, class and an awesome footy brain. In one passage he marked the ball above his head at HB on the point of the square and in the same motion played on straight away as he knew there was teammate leading to the opposite point at HF. A perfectedly weighted 50m kick that bypassed the opposition upfield to a free Simmonds who passed to a one-out Richo -> Goal.
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I'm pretty sure Campbell and Chaffey spent nearly all of the second half on the bench MT. Definitely all of the last quarter.
I think you're right about that FF.
I missed the first question to Wallace from the media scrum but I think it was about Cambo and why he was playing for the possibles and not the probables. Terry didn't seem too fussed about his game or lack of it in his response.
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I was on the wing MT, and Campbell was very vocal in an instructive way. He didn't get a lot of possessions but every one of them hit a target or was to advantage.
Meyer was the big surprise packet for me. He can play.
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The only disadvantage Meyer had today was he was playing in a side that got totally smashed. That's why I found it hard to judge him even though he would be in the whites' best. I guess I'm talking more about his defensive/accountable side and how he went compared to his direct opponent(s). It's hard to judge a player when they're swimming against a torrent. I was pleased with what he did when he got the footy.
I thought how vocal the boys were today was another good sign.
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Deledio will be the next Chris Judd!
He is going to be an absolute gun, with Tambling not far behind
Hawthorn will be spewing they didnt take Tambling
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Very impresssed with Chris Hyde!
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not much to add just yet, other than to say Kurret was actually in the possibles (white) team (#43), and Morrison also missed...
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and the obligatory few snap shots...
(http://img212.exs.cx/img212/1434/jackoshot6oe.jpg)
Jacko shoots for goal
(http://img209.exs.cx/img209/9508/tamboshot8ew.jpg)
Tambo does the same
(http://img207.exs.cx/img207/1051/jackson9ue.jpg)
Jackson and Moore
(http://img10.exs.cx/img10/808/rixruck6zj.jpg)
Rix rucks
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Out of all the positives that came out of yesterday's intra-club match why are some in the media making such a big deal out of Cambo playing for the possibles ???.
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Tigers to drop Campbell? It's possible
By Melissa Ryan
The Age
February 10, 2005
Wayne Campbell's exclusion from the team dubbed by coach Terry Wallace as "virtually our best side" in Richmond's intra-club match at Victoria Park yesterday overshadowed starring roles from would-be captain Matthew Richardson and eye-catching youngster Richard Tambling.
Campbell, who stood down as Richmond captain before the last game of 2004, was included in the team of "possibles" against the "probables" who are set for the starting line-up against Collingwood in the club's pre-season Wizard Cup opener tomorrow week.
With Tambling and No. 1 draft pick Brett Deledio certain starters for the match against the Magpies, Wallace was quizzed about Campbell's omission from the "probables" after the hit-out, which consisted of four 25-minute quarters. Mark Chaffey found himself alongside his former captain in the young team.
"Wayne, we just needed some experience in that younger group," Wallace said. "We are looking towards the future and so the situation was having some sort of experience in the other side. Wayne's an experienced player, he'll step up when the time need be.
"We only had 18 running around in that side, we'll have 24 running around next Friday night so you'd suggest that he'd be one of them, wouldn't you?.
"We haven't selected our side. No one's a walk-up start until we've selected our side. He was in the possibles today so he has to be one of six to step up if we play the 18 (probables)."
Richardson, one of four contenders for the Richmond captaincy, had his chance to display his leadership wares by captaining the "probables" and he booted six goals in three quarters from centre half-forward.
Tambling, the No. 4 pick in the national draft, could have had almost as many alongside his name but for some wobbly set-shot kicking.
Richardson dominated against opponents Kyle Archibald, Kelvin Moore and Coburg player Michael Rix, and again combined strongly with new recruit Troy Simmonds, who rotated between full-forward and the ruck, kicking two goals but also missing some shots.
Just as Deledio shone in Mildura last week, Tambling took his turn yesterday, kicking three goals but also missing three shots at goal. He roamed the forward line, spent time on the wing, and in a moment of deja vu for Brent Hartigan, twice chased and tackled his teammate in the space of minutes.
"I thought a couple of times when he had shots on goal when he was on angles, perhaps at under-18 level he would have taken off, run around and almost kicked them (Jeff) Farmer-like, but here he was a bit more rigid and a bit more stiff in his approach on his set shot goal-kicking," Wallace said.
"The sooner that he can relax and play his natural game, which he's learning to do pretty quickly, the better. He is a player with flair and you've got to let those guys have their head."
Mark Coughlan, continuing his comeback from osteitis pubis, played in the second quarter, while Greg Stafford (knee) played the first half. Stafford is a chance of playing against the Magpies next week, but the match committee will weigh up whether to play him off the bench or give him four quarters in the reserves instead.
Nathan Brown, another of the captaincy contenders, did not play because of hamstring tightness but coached the "probables" with Trent Knobel.
Wallace is expected to decide on who will lead the club in "about three weeks". "It was Matthew Richardson's chance to captain today so he captained the side," Wallace said. "We'll just rotate it around. A lot of people will think that whoever captains next week will be the most likely candidate. I don't think that will be the case, we're in a rotation mode."
Andrew Krakouer, who was lively in the third quarter with two goals, hobbled off after sustaining a kick to the calf and bruising. He will be monitored ahead of the Collingwood game, as will Brown.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/02/09/1107890272782.html
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Don't know why they are even considering playing Campbell in the Wizard Cup. You'd think there'd be a whole line up of kids that should be trialed first.
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Just got back and will give a quick summary before going into more detail later on as well as adding some pics.
Teams were split in probables (black) and possibles (white) with the blacks a far stronger side to the tune of 122 points :o. The whites had a number of Coburg players which I didn't recongize. Terry said the Blacks were the "18" and the 24 for the Wiz cup would come from the whites.
Final Scores:
Blacks: 4.5 8.11 16.15 22.17-149
Whites: 2.3 3.3 3.8 3.9-27
Final score PROBABLES 22.20 - 152
POSSIBLES 3. 9 - 27
Danny Meyer played very well easily beating Danny Jackson
Richo's kicking still needs work
Kuret played with the Possibles, not Probables as listed
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Cambo's been talked about playing in a forward pocket for most of the pre-season but I didn't see him in that position yesterday. Maybe Wallace will plonk him there next Friday and play him in similar way to which Tambling did in the intra-club deep down in the goalsquare.
If we're are simply adding 6 possibles to the 18 probables then they could be Gilmour, Raines, Meyer, Stafford, Cambo, Chaffey ?
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Young from Coburg also played for the whites (no20).
I thought no42 for the blacks was Nick Bruton, 203cm & skinny 75kg formerly at the Bulldogs who has signed with Coburg. Apparently it was McKinnon though.
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I reckon you could be close with those six but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tuck and Moore given a run. Hartigan would definitely play too you'd think.
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I would think that if Stafford is fit he'll play and would be the first choice FF. Also, I don't think Knobel will play against the Pies so we made need Stafford.
However, I heard Greg Miller on Sport927 and he said that young Pattison played for the "possibiles" in the ruck and did quitre well (can anyone confirm) so maybe he is a chance to play in the Wizz Fizz Cup
Hartigan would definitely play too you'd think.
Totally agree Duckboy - if Hartigan is fit and completely over the very mild case of OP he should play.
Slightest injury doubt he shouldn't.
That should be the rule for everyone - any niggles or doubts over fitness - we don't play them.
I think that in 2005 that'll be the rule rather than the exception :cheers
PS: Welcome to OER duckboy :thumbsup
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I heard Greg Miller on Sport927 and he said that young Pattison played for the "possibiles" in the ruck and did quitre well (can anyone confirm) so maybe he is a chance to play in the Wizz Fizz Cup
I thought he was very good in the first quarter WP. He cleared the ball out of the middle several times and showed good agility.
Didn't notice him much when he went forward later on. I was impressed from a long term point of view and can understand from one viewing why he would be picked ahead of Wood in the draft.
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Pattison played for the probables. Began in the ruck against Stafford.
Other initial first quarter match ups were from what I could make out (forward line whites):
Blacks - Whites:
Schulz (FB) - 38? (FF)
Kellaway (B) - 20. McKinnon (F)
Gas (CHB) - Moore (CHF)
Jackson (HB) - Gilmour (HF)
Newman (BP) - Raines (FP)
Roach (W) - Hartigan (W)
Tivs (HB) - Meyer (HF)
Johnson (C) - Chaffey (C - tag?)
Later on in 1st qtr:
Deledio (HBF) - Meyer
Kellaway (B) - Stafford (F)
Jackson - Tuck (F)
2nd qtr:
Simmonds (F) - Rix
Richo (FF) - Archibald (FB)
Tambling (F) - Polo
3rd qtr:
Gas (CHB) - Archibald (CHF)
Schulz (FB) - 38? (FF)
4th Qtr:
Jackson (FF) - Moore (FB)
Pattison (CHF) - Rix (CHB)
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MT, 38 for the white was Luke McGuane :thumbsup
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Doh! :-[
Thanks fwoy. That'll teach me for being too lazy to check the players list :shh.
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Mick McGuane gave his thoughts on our intra-club match on sport 927:
http://www.sport927.com.au/gateway/Daily_Audio/Sound%20Grabs/MM_110205.asx
- McGuane said the hitout was impressive.
- As a former midfielder himself, Deledio stood out for him. Said Deledio would be a superstar. He knew where to run to to get to the contest and delivered the ball well.
- Pattison will the surprise packet in 12 months time for us. Was impressed with his workrate.