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Title: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 15, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
From the Hun, another ruck man rumor.......

ADELAIDE ruckman Ivan Maric is looming large in Richmond's hunt for a top-line big man.

Maric, 25, is unsigned for next year and has put off talks on a new deal with the Crows until the end of the season.

It is understood the Tigers have flagged their interest in trying to lure the 200cm ruckman back home to Melbourne.

While he is not a big AFL name, Maric's ruck nous, work ethic and flexibility to play forward or back appeal to the Tigers.

Last season, he played 21 games and ranked seventh of all ruckmen in the competition for hitouts to advantage. He also finished fourth at the Crows for contested marks.

However, Maric fell out of favour this year and was overlooked by former coach Neil Craig in favour of new No.1 ruckman Sam Jacobs, back-up Brad Moran and key forward Kurt Tippett

Maric, taken with pick No.40 in the 2004 national draft, played only three games to Round 18 but has played all three games under caretaker coach Mark Bickley.

Maric kicked two goals and featured in six score involvements in Adelaide's 11-point loss against Geelong on Sunday.

He has not ruled out staying in Adelaide and the identity of the new, permanent coach is likely to be a key factor in his decision.

The Tigers want a ruckman to help lead an onball brigade that includes potential superstars Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.

Head of football Craig Cameron said Richmond wanted to be active in the trade market this year.

The Tigers have also been linked to ruckmen Mitch Clark (Brisbane Lions), Hamish McIntosh (North Melbourne) and Jonathon Griffin and Zac Clarke (Fremantle).

Maric, who made his debut in 2006, would be unlikely to command a high price but would be assured a long-term contract with the Tigers.
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on August 15, 2011, 10:51:22 PM
Never really noticed a leap on him. We need a player who can outjump his opponent
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Fruity Morgan on August 15, 2011, 10:53:31 PM
Bit of a lumberer.  The Jack Dyer statue moves more quickly on a good day
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 15, 2011, 11:12:53 PM
We could do worse, I guess.

He's only 1 year younger than Apple.

Wouldnt want to give up much for him. Maybe poach him for nix houli style.

Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Ox on August 15, 2011, 11:25:42 PM
yebemti pitchku,Ivan!!
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: one-eyed on August 16, 2011, 04:03:00 AM
Ivan Maric
No. 20
Height   200cm
Weight   102kg
DOB   04-01-1986
Recruited from: Keilor/Calder U18, pick 40 in the 2004 National Draft.
Debut   v Port Adelaide, round six, 2006
Games      77 (6 in 2011)
Goals           28 (3 in 2011)

http://www.afc.com.au/players/playerprofile/ivanmaric/tabid/4506/playerid/13958/category/senior/season/2011/selected/bio/default.aspx

Career stats:
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-adelaide-crows--ivan-maric
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL

Surprise surprise his highest hitouts average is against us.
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2011, 06:56:32 AM
I hear we are also interested in Dean Cox, Darren Jolly, Shane Mumford and ever other ruckman in the league  ::)
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 16, 2011, 07:32:10 AM
All the other clubs seem to have older type ruckmen to teach and take pressure off the younger ones, we don't and we didnt last year and that is why our ruck stocks have stalled or not developed as well as we would have liked. Grab an experienced ruck and decide who out of Browne and Gus gets chopped and retain the other.
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 16, 2011, 09:36:04 AM
yebemti pitchku,Ivan!!

hehe  :shh
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 16, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
He sounds like Ben Marsh ???
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 16, 2011, 03:48:51 PM
I know you are all getting excited about a new Ruckman.

How is Tom Derickx progressing??. It seems he is hitting the right age and if he is any good ???

Maybe if he comes right along with Tyrone Vickery and Angus or Browne will another ruckman just be superfluous to requirements.?

Shouldn't we be looking at another tall solid CHB/CHF/fullback type instead of rushing into another ruckman?
2010 National Draft - Tom Derickx Pick 63


Robert Hicks

DOB: 7/12/87
Height: 201cm
Weight: 100kg
Club: Claremont

What the recruiters say:
Tom is an athletic ruckman who is very creative with his tap work and has excellent mobility around the ground. His second efforts at ground level and his ability to chase and tackle are a real feature and his movement enables him to go forward and be effective as a lead up forward. He is also a good kick both in general play and goal kicking.

Tom is a late developer who was playing in Margaret River until the end of 2008 when he moved to Perth and signed with Claremont.  He played in the reserves in 2009 but blossomed this year after a strong pre season and a late growth spurt which saw him grow to over 200cm. Tom had a solid season as a ruck/forward playing all year in the league side and was a strong contributor in their narrow grand final loss.

While Tom is 22 we feel he is very early in his development phase and in a full time environment will blossom with his natural athletic and football traits and we look forward to him growing and improving at the Richmond Football Club.
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: blaisee on August 16, 2011, 04:14:58 PM
as far as ruckman go hopefully we can trade graham and bring in someone like maric or seaby while young browne and derricx develop.

Both ( maric and  seaby ) should be pretty cheap and attainable, both would be an upgrade on graham.

No need for hamish thats for sure
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: eliminator on August 16, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
We need a ruckman who can take a contested grab. If Maric fits the bill go for him.
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: georgies31 on August 17, 2011, 01:40:57 PM
People being a bit harsh on Maric and really havent watched him.Before this season he was the crows number 1 ruckman and still is 25 so can develope further.Last 3 games under Bickley he has been good fell out with Craig as they got Jacobs.He can hold his own with out a problem
Title: Re: Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric seen as long-term prospect at Richmond
Post by: tony_montana on August 17, 2011, 02:02:35 PM



These are his stats for his 2 best seasons to date

2010 Adelaide 21 3.4 6.9 10.3 3.0 0.2 0 2.0 17.6 1.1 1.0 0.05
2009 Adelaide 20 3.4 6.4 9.8 2.8 0.2 0.2 2.4 17.9 0.8 1.6   


Never averaged more than 10.3 possies a game. No deal. Seems very average!
Title: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2011, 02:19:32 AM
Maric tipped to join Tigers

    Zac Milbank
    From: The Advertiser
    September 08, 2011


ADELAIDE ruckman Ivan Maric appears destined to join Richmond.

The out-of-contract Victorian - currently in Melbourne mulling over multiple offers with his manager Peter Lenton - is set to be lured by greater opportunity at Tigerland.

While Lenton insists the Crows remain in the running, Maric - now entrenched behind Sam Jacobs in the pecking order at West Lakes - will almost certainly select the chance to be the lead ruckman at Punt Road.

"There has been interest (from other clubs)," Lenton confirmed.

"And there's interest from Adelaide who are keen to retain him and have put an offer to him.

"We just thought it was best to weigh everything up when the footy season was done and to see what he thinks is best for him from an opportunity point of view.

"That's where he would go - to a club which can give him an opportunity - so we'll go through a process and let the club (Adelaide) know exactly where we sit from there," Lenton said.

Maric has already informed his SANFL club Port Magpies he won't be playing finals despite logging enough games to qualify.

The 198cm giant can't afford to get injured in the next month before AFL trade week begins on October 10.

Adelaide operations manager Phil Harper said the club would endeavour to work a deal with the Tigers, to ensure it was compensated for the loss of the 25-year-old.

"We're keen for him to stay but he's weighing up all options before he makes a call - we understand that," Harper said.

"We know we've got a good player and we know we've got a champion person. If we lose him we'll be disappointed but we'll be understanding as well."

"If he wants to go to another club we'd go down that (trade) line."

Lenton - who also didn't rule out the Power being a potential suitor - said Maric was determined to become a regular player after managing just six games in 2011.

"That's what he's found, that it's a little bit more challenging," said Lenton in reference to the introduction of the AFL's substitute rule.

"And obviously the club got in Sam Jacobs this year and he's taken that (number one) mantle and done a really good job.

"Where Ivan sits now within the structure ...  he's probably more so insurance to the club. If there's an injury that comes through then they can call upon him."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/maric-tipped-to-join-tigers/story-e6frecj3-1226131770676
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 08, 2011, 03:30:06 AM
Apparently it's been a done deal for a little while. At least that's what I was told a week or so ago. Now it's out public in the papers it's no longer hush-hush.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on September 08, 2011, 03:51:22 AM
Whats the compensation the crows will get tho?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 08, 2011, 05:25:07 AM
Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 08, 2011, 06:52:50 AM
Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2011, 06:54:23 AM
Whats the compensation the crows will get tho?

As he is uncontracted:

We can either try and do a trade on our terms or we can draft him for nothing him in the PSD like we did with Houli   ;D

Comp? They get no compo - we aren't GC or GWS - this is just standard normal trade/draft ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on September 08, 2011, 06:58:14 AM
nothing is a done deal until the papers are signed
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 08, 2011, 08:17:19 AM
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.

There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on September 08, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.

But have better ruck stocks than us. Jacobs is a good ruck and Tippett pinch hits.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 08, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.

But have better ruck stocks than us. Jacobs is a good ruck and Tippett pinch hits.

No No No. He plays for a worse team than us. He must be poo.  ;D

He's no gun but he's a big upgrade. Comes down to cost at the end of the day. If its a 3rd rounder or later then we win.Give up a 2nd then we lose.

Hoping the rumour we will pick up Tom Nicholls from GC is true as well as it will cover the long term too.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.

There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..

That's a good point

Taylor Walker couldn't get a game while Craig was there ... as soon as he goes Bickley brings him straight back in and the kid plays reasonable footy and re-signs with the club

other players got games when perhaps they shouldn't of.... coaches play favourites at all clubs  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 08, 2011, 10:07:49 AM
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.

There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..

That's a good point

Taylor Walker couldn't get a game while Craig was there ... as soon as he goes Bickley brings him straight back in and the kid plays reasonable footy and re-signs with the club

other players got games when perhaps they shouldn't of.... coaches play favourites at all clubs  ;D
Points well taken :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on September 08, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
He's 200cm according to the crows site. Can he jump well? Can't remember  8)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 08, 2011, 10:21:41 AM
Be good to get him for peanuts, I have no doubts in my mind that he will look like Cox when compared to what we have seen with Graham.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 08, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say.  Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say.  Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.

But if the a bandaid is actually "elastoplast" as opposed to a no-name bandaid and that's all that's available then you have settle for that bandaid... better than letting the would bleed, weep and get infected  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 08, 2011, 11:12:59 AM
nah let it scab up and heal natural
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2011, 11:20:11 AM
nah let it scab up and heal natural

True but it wont heal if you have dills constantly wanting to pick at the scab  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 08, 2011, 12:27:29 PM
and eat them like bar snacks?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on September 08, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
Is this our best option ? There seemed to be of plenty of ruckmen listed as possible trades or linked to us in other threads, are we jumping the gun if its true that is a done deal ?

I just dont know enough about this guy to pass comment, just want to make sure we get the best available as to me this is a main key to our future success.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2011, 12:56:14 PM
From the AFL site....

Adelaide is less confident of retaining popular ruckman Ivan Maric, who is tipped to seek greater opportunity at Richmond next year.

Maric, 25, conceded the No.1 ruck spot to ex-Carlton recruit Sam Jacobs this season and was limited to only six appearances with the Crows.

The out-of-contract Victorian's likely departure would be a blow to the Crows, whose ruck stocks have already taken a hit with the retirement of Brad Moran.

There's a short supply of ruckmen in this year's draft talent pool, meaning clubs could look to previously listed players, or the state leagues in search of ready-made big men.

"We've still got Shaun McKernan and [untried ruckman] James Craig, who can play in the ruck, on our list at the moment," Harper said.

"A ruckman wouldn't have been high on our priority list, but if both of those players [Maric and Moran] went it would come up the pecking order."

The Crows, who aren't expected to announce Neil Craig's successor until later this month at the earliest, had planned a quiet trade week, but Harper said the club would become involved if Maric requested a trade to the Tigers.

"If everybody was staying, we probably wouldn't be active but if someone goes we can become involved," he said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122979/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 08, 2011, 12:57:01 PM
Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 08, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup

Why do you think Hampson will be cheap? The aint gunna let him go lightly....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Him on September 08, 2011, 01:21:12 PM
and eat them like bar snacks?

I was just enjoying my lunch.

 :chuck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 08, 2011, 01:21:54 PM
Welcome back, 65'.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 08, 2011, 01:24:03 PM
Welcome back, 65'.

Wouldn't that be Her?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 08, 2011, 01:31:54 PM
Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup

Why do you think Hampson will be cheap? The aint gunna let him go lightly....

They have Warnock and Kruezer. For what it's worth we will get something of better value to us paying for Hampson than paying the same for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 08, 2011, 02:36:50 PM
You can tell by his haircut why Craig Cameron is so keen to get him here :santa

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/ivan-maric.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on September 08, 2011, 02:46:03 PM


They have Warnock and Kruezer. For what it's worth we will get something of better value to us paying for Hampson than paying the same for Maric.

Surely we wouldn't be paying the same for Maric as what Hampson would cost us.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 08, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
Would not want to lose a draft pick Round 3 or higher.

Offer a Nason or Round 4.

If we pay overs for an average player Ill be peeed.

Unless we get rid of Jackson and I couldn't care less if we drafted Adulf Hitler
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 08, 2011, 04:47:06 PM
Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say.  Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.

Didnt you jump up and down and stamp you feet over Houli coming to richmond?

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 08, 2011, 05:57:56 PM
Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say.  Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.

Didnt you jump up and down and stamp you feet over Houli coming to richmond?

Yes I did although he basically came for free. I was also against Grigg coming to Richmond. Richmond needs to recruit higher quality players IMHO. Lets see how it all works out over the next 3 or 4 years hey!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 08, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
don't disagree with that Ramps, but when it comes to pinching them from other clubs, it's easier said than done.

Quality players changing clubs really doesn't happen that often, particularly proven ones
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 08, 2011, 07:03:11 PM
dont forget mumford was as uselss as a idiot full of cold water before the swannies went out of their way to snag him...i havent lost faith yet.. :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 08, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
You obviously saw SFA of him at Geelong then, BJ.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 08, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
lol he was being facetious salad fingers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 08, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
well eff me, he was too. BJ is normally a ret ard, so forgive me you alien milk guy.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mopsy on September 09, 2011, 06:47:46 AM
Lack of height is his problem IMO
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2011, 06:51:11 AM
Lack of height is his problem IMO

But Mopsy Maric is 200cm

1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)

So I don't t hink height is an issue 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Him on September 09, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
Lack of height is his problem IMO

But Mopsy Maric is 200cm

1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)

So I don't t hink height is an issue

Is 200cm tall enough now days for a modern ruckman?
 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 09, 2011, 07:37:17 AM
a couple of threads regarding maric on the crows board on BF make interesting reading.

There doesnt appear to be too many knocks on the bloke at all. He has a real dip and doesnt need to have "go all in" drilled into him resulting in a drunken mumbling of it at midnight.

From report he is a good kick, with one poster claiming he is the best shot for goal from 30-40m at the club

Overall there is a lot of respect for him on the board.

He may not necessarily be a champ,  probably a very solid player, but importantly one with the right character.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 09, 2011, 08:08:31 AM
Graham is gonna get a shock if he mumbles "go all in" at his next annual check up I reckon
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on September 09, 2011, 08:52:05 AM
Lack of height is his problem IMO

But Mopsy Maric is 200cm

1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)

So I don't t hink height is an issue

Is 200cm tall enough now days for a modern ruckman?

Jamar is only 198cm.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 09, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...

I have the mail, this guy is a DUD, slow, makes poor decisions, cannot kick, Should fit in well at Richmond.
Probably the decision was made buy the same RFC person who
took Fiora over Pavlich, Tambling over Buddy, Made the decision to take McMahon so we didn't get Callum Ward, same bloke also decided to trade Jason Torney and Stew Maxfield.
Seriously, this is a real bad decision.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 09, 2011, 10:37:18 AM
If you can reach the Glenfiddich at the bottle-o then you are tall enough to be a servicable Ruckman. If you can successfully run away from the cops with a bottle of stolen Glenfiddich under your arm, then you are a Ruckman which will be highly sought after.  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 09, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
If you can drink the bottle of Glenfiddich and refrain from slappin lasses and telling em 'ALL IN'  Then you really are a champion ruckman, or is it the other way around?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 09, 2011, 01:39:39 PM
If you can reach the Glenfiddich at the bottle-o then you are tall enough to be a servicable Ruckman. If you can successfully run away from the cops with a bottle of stolen Glenfiddich under your arm, then you are a Ruckman which will be highly sought after.  ;D

The better player will make the better decision and we all know that Dimples is the one they should be reaching for. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2011, 04:41:41 PM
Maric set to join Richmond
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
9 September 2011 04:18PM EST


RICHMOND is poised to complete luring Ivan Maric away from Adelaide and return to his home state to restart his stalled AFL career.

Maric, 25, has been targeted by the Tigers as a potential late-maturing big man and solve glaring deficiencies around stoppages in joining clearance forces with exciting young on-ballers Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin.

Maric is expected to seek a trade from the Crows after finishing 2011 and his sixth season on the Crows list behind preferred lead ruckman Sam Jacobs.

The Crows also opted for rising key forwards Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan at times for brief stints on the ball in support of Jacobs, ahead of more regular ruck chances for Maric.

Tigers management have identified an imported ruck force along with another powerful defender as priority recruiting targets ahead of next season after finishing 12th with eight wins and a draw.

Maric has played 77 Crows games since his debut early into 2006, but made only six appearances this season.

The 200cm and 102kg former Calder Canons ruckman played three games to launch the season and then only Rounds 19-21 to average 11 possessions and outing around 12 hitouts a game.

Tigers coach Damien Hardwick has identified needs for more aggression and brute force in the stoppages to generate passage for the classy Martin and Cotchin to continue an upward surge toward possible finals next season and beyond.

Maric is considered by Tigers recruiters as an emerging ruckman who could reach his peak of potential in the next few seasons, similar to the late confirmation of capabilities that escalated Melbourne big man Mark Jamar into All-Australian selection at 27 last year.

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/09/maric-set-to-join-richmond/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 09, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
footage?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 09, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 09, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
Not much of him on YouTube, apart from a vid of Maric being interviewed after the Port Adelaide win in July this year.

Seems like a pretty down to earth bloke

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 09, 2011, 05:08:34 PM
We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude

No none will want the Beefcake once Oblatne-cake comes over from the crows.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 09, 2011, 05:43:24 PM
Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2011, 06:27:06 PM
Ch 10 news tonight were claiming it's a done deal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 09, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
I have no problems with picking this guy up. I don't want to pay overs. He wants to come home, he's not in there plans going forward.

Round 4 or 5 draft pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 09, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol

On the crows BF board many believe that they should give us tambling and maric in exchange for the priority pick we got for tambling :lol

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mopsy on September 09, 2011, 07:13:27 PM
Lack of height is his problem IMO

But Mopsy Maric is 200cm

1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)

So I don't t hink height is an issue
I stand corrected WP for some reason I had him at 198 cms
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 09, 2011, 09:40:38 PM
Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol

On the crows BF board many believe that they should give us tambling and maric in exchange for the priority pick we got for tambling :lol


They are lucky to get a half masticated picnic bar and backhander after getting Kingy suspended like a bunch of primary school bunnies.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2011, 11:52:55 PM
I'd rather chase West with the promise of the No.1 ruckman role although I can't see Geelong letting him go now. The Cats sure know how to find decent ruckmen when you consider they lost Mumford last year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 10, 2011, 12:05:23 AM
We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude

No none will want the Beefcake once Oblatne-cake comes over from the crows.

The Sarma King
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 10, 2011, 07:48:12 AM
Ch 10 news tonight were claiming it's a done deal.

That would be almost spot on correct
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 10, 2011, 11:02:36 AM
Blair Hartley is overrated IMHO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 10, 2011, 11:15:39 AM
yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 10, 2011, 11:21:20 AM
yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner

Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 10, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner

Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.

I accept his form flattened off after a promising start however he continued to be a workhorse that accumulated plenty of hard earned footy...he replaces a tambling in the side to good effect and he cost us little in andy collins swap who would have struggled big time to break into our side
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TFL on September 10, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner

Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.

I accept his form flattened off after a promising start however he continued to be a workhorse that accumulated plenty of hard earned footy...he replaces a tambling in the side to good effect and he cost us little in andy collins swap who would have struggled big time to break into our side

Hard earned footy?

I must be watching a different player. IMO Grigg is a total downhill skier, when the team is up and running well he looks ok.

But his defensive game is barely at VFL standard and has a long long way to go. Is hard ever accountable for his man and doesnt work anywhere near hard enough when we dont have the footy.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 10, 2011, 01:17:51 PM
The only thing that Grigg did this year that was "hard earnt" was a place in the 2's late in the season. He tried and tried to get dropped week after week after week and it finally happened.

Everything else was handed to him on a platter.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 10, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
Do any of you muppets realise that Grigg is actually only just turned 23?
The guy played his 50th AFL game this year?

Is younger than Nahas and about 3 months older than Shane Edwards?

When did the club suggest that he was the next Chris Judd to pump up your expectations?

The club has never claimed to have picked up a superstar, he's an OK player that does his bit. His bad days will be poor just the same as Jack Riewoldts, Buddy Franklins and even Chris Judd.

Don't wank over spilt milk. Go all in.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on September 10, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
What people are forgetting is that Maric is only 25 and still has plenty upside and improvement to his game.Ruckman take time have look at West at the cats he has been in no mans land last 4 or more seasons in the vfl and people were saying he will get traded or delisted and not up to it the same goes for or Jamar. What are Marics positives and negatives any highlights ppl?.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger till i die on September 10, 2011, 08:21:38 PM
so were taking any one these days ?

Maric is a second rate player in a team that we beat even when he was in the ruck.

if Angus beats him whats the point ?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2011, 08:31:51 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 10, 2011, 08:44:42 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376

4 Years

LOL  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376

Oh dear....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 10, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
i cant believe that to be true. No way.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 10, 2011, 09:12:47 PM
Face palm
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 10, 2011, 09:36:16 PM
4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???

and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2011, 10:35:57 PM
4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???

and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
The upgrade argument is questionable going by stats :-\.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1522&tid2=15&pid2=1678&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 10, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
the use of the word 'upgrade' is now an excuse for just "about anything goes" at Richmond from the people who want to support everything the administration do. Maric is an average player, theres no way he should get a 4 year deal. And theres no way that I will support an anything goes mentality. Maric may or may not turn out any good but this is way over the top.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 10, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???

and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
The upgrade argument is questionable going by stats :-\.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1522&tid2=15&pid2=1678&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C

According to those stats Angus Graham wins on every single measurable.  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 10, 2011, 10:44:11 PM
If Maric gets 4 years and Jackson is re signed over the coming months the club are screwed.

Seriously show me one average who gets 4 year deals. WTF

A bigger shock to me would be only an extension of Jacksons contract.



Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 10, 2011, 10:48:02 PM
250k is stuff all
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2011, 11:24:53 PM
250k is stuff all

It is but seriously 4 years is ridiculous for a player who doesnt even compare to Gus stats wise. 2 years would have been sufficient and fair
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 10, 2011, 11:48:16 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376

This whole trade annoys me.

This is our biggest deficiency in our list and we cover it with a band aid. If we had a decent A Grade ruckman I'd have no problems with Maric coming as a back up.

I just can't see him being an answer to our ruck problems and from what I've seen it just a more consistant performer with the ability of Graham.

Should be going for a bigger fish or going to the VFL IMO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 11, 2011, 08:37:14 AM
As i said in the other thread, Brisbane want ALOT for Mitch Clarke, as he wants to go to Freo and Brisbane want to take Zac Clarke plus a pick. So apart from the bandaid, who is there besides Maric? Im not too concerned about $250k but 4 years is a looonngg time mate (insert shakin head smilie)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 11, 2011, 10:47:47 AM
True, eat em. Last year when negotiating with a variety of players, as they priced themselves out of contention they were scrubbed of the list.

It seems that potential trades are given a value, and once they exceed that value then we move on to the next one. There is a method to what they do.

Like most, I'm surprised that that a 25 year bloke who hasn't played 50 games yet would be offered 4 years, and until i see it i wont believe it. At 250K it's not a lot of money though. If he came good we would be getting a bargain in those last years, and if not, would not be a great expense to pay out. The one advantage is that rather than paying more per year for a shorter contract it would free up salary cap space when free agency comes in.

In saying that, I would be surprised if either party agreed to 4 years at 250k a year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2011, 09:52:28 PM
Just putting it out there but the latest BF rumour doing the rounds is a swap of Maric for Edwards.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 11, 2011, 10:05:32 PM
not sure what to think of that...as much as I believe there are knocks on edwards, he has played plenty more senior footy than maric...I would have thought a R3 selection or Nason would be more the go
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 12, 2011, 12:56:24 AM
not sure what to think of that...as much as I believe there are knocks on edwards, he has played plenty more senior footy than maric...I would have thought a R3 selection or Nason would be more the go

Nason wouldn't get it done. Edwards is a best 22 player (albeit not a good one) Maric is a back up. Hopefully we gain a pick upgrade along the way.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 12, 2011, 02:18:50 AM
It's harder this year as picks won't be worth as much as in past drafts. In a normal draft Maric would cost no more than a 3rd rounder at best if that but our 3rd round pick is around pick 55 which won't appeal to the Crows. Our 2nd rounder is approx. around pick 37 but we would want to have more than just one pick (#14) in the top 50. Alternatively the Crows should get a compo pick for Phil Davis so maybe Edwards + pick 37 for Maric + end of 1st round compo pick? At least then we would have up our sleeve 3 picks in the top 20 next year with two compo picks in the bank.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 12, 2011, 08:28:07 AM
Yeah tell em they're dreaming.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 12, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Edwards for Maric plus an upgrade. More than adequate deal for us.

Make it happen RFC Edwards has had enough time and games and has produced SFA
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on September 12, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
No way a straight swap for Edwards.  He is a regular senior player where Maric is not getting a game.
We would a second rounder as well or he can go to the PSD.

Best scenario would be swap for 3rd rounder
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on September 12, 2011, 10:43:37 AM
Maric is not a player we want
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 12, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
Hating this trade.

This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 12, 2011, 11:15:30 AM
Hating this trade.

This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.

You really need to start reading the papers or this site more thoroughly Pope  :banghead :banghead

rightly or wrongly Angus appears to not to be going anywhere - supposedly has another 2 years
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 12, 2011, 12:03:42 PM
We will be a better side without Edwards.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 12, 2011, 12:33:13 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376

Oh dear....

If that is the case then Craig Cameron needs to be hung drawn and quartered.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 12, 2011, 01:00:38 PM
Of course they don't want Nason they have Sloane and Douglas who are bigger bodied and can play that role reasonably or in Sloane's case very well.
In Edwards they don't have a butcherer of the ball like that than lets say Tambling. :lol :rollin :rollin

By the way just thinking Adelaide have not yet named a senior coach so all this may still be poo unless of course Bickley has the job and they are merely going through a process. :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 12, 2011, 01:26:30 PM
Hating this trade.

This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.

P.L. I am with you here.

I have stated Maric is a DUD, I know he is a DUD, can't kick, can't jump, is slow, has no footy brain, won goose of the year award at a recent "I wanna be a Ruckman"'s convention, apart from that he is a very good footballer, just the type we want at RFC if we want to return to last years form.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 12, 2011, 07:21:06 PM
Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376

Oh dear....

If that is the case then Craig Cameron needs to be hung drawn and quartered.
reckon the horse has bolted there!
Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on September 12, 2011, 07:56:30 PM
Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!

Why do you think Cameron is going anywhere? More to the point, why do you think Cameron thinks he is going anywhere?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 12, 2011, 08:26:21 PM
AFL site saying Port now in the mix ....


"The club is also bracing for the loss of second-string ruckman Ivan Maric, who has been linked to Richmond and cross-town rivals Port Adelaide."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123285/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 12, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!

Why do you think Cameron is going anywhere? More to the point, why do you think Cameron thinks he is going anywhere?


Going to get hung & quartered. We can only hope he gets walked at the end of next year
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 12, 2011, 09:42:18 PM
We will be a better side without Edwards.

Doubt Edwards is going anywhere.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Crows resigned to losing duo
By Katrina Gill 3:29 PM
Tue 13 Sep, 2011


(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/maric316aaaaaaaaa1112.jpg)

ADELAIDE is resigned to losing both ruckman Ivan Maric and homesick forward Jack Gunston during next month's AFL exchange period.

Maric is yet to formerly request a trade, but Adelaide expects it will also have to find a new home for the popular big man in the exchange period, which runs from October 10-17.

The 25-year-old was limited to only six appearances for the Crows this season after losing the No.1 ruck spot to ex-Blues rookie Sam Jacobs.

The 77-game Victorian has been strongly linked to Richmond, with Port Adelaide also believed to be interested in securing his services.

Adelaide football operations manager Phil Harper said the club would reluctantly agree to trades for both Gunston and Maric.

"They [Gunston and Maric] are both players we did not want to lose and they had been offered new contracts," Harper told afc.com.au.

"Therefore, we will only be looking at fair and reasonable trades for these players, with the best interests of our club as the main focus."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123339/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2011, 07:08:54 PM
Maric trade on track

By Kim Hagdorn
13 September 2011 06:17PM EST



Maric will be among a host of big men on the move in what is shaping as some frenzied trading next month.

Brisbane big forward and back-up ruckman Mitch Clark, Carlton's Shaun Hampson and Fremantle's Jonathon Griffin are all being linked with possible trade bargaining.

Maric, 25, looks headed to the Tigers as a late-maturing big man to solve glaring deficiencies around stoppages and team with exciting young on-ballers Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin and clearances expert Nathan Foley.

Maric is likely to be traded for a second round selection at this year's national draft in November.

He wants to leave the Crows after finishing 2011 and his sixth season on the Crows list behind preferred lead ruckman Sam Jacobs.

The Crows opted for rising key forwards Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan at times for brief stints on the ball in support of Jacobs, ahead of more regular ruck chances for Maric.

Tigers management have identified an imported ruck force along with another powerful defender as priority recruiting targets ahead of next season after finishing 12th with eight wins and a draw.

Maric has played 77 Crows games since his debut early into 2006, but made only six appearances this season.

The 200cm and 102kg former Calder Canons ruckman played three games to launch the season and then only Rounds 19-21 to average 11 possessions an outing and around 12 hitouts a game.

Tigers coach Damien Hardwick has identified needs for more aggression and brute force in the stoppages to generate passage for the classy Martin and Cotchin to continue an upward surge toward possible finals next season and beyond.

Maric is considered by Tigers recruiters as an emerging ruckman who could reach his peak of potential in the next few seasons, similar to the late confirmation of capabilities that escalated Melbourne big man Mark Jamar into All-Australian selection at 27 last year.

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/13/maric-trade-on-track/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on September 13, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
2nd Rounder  :o I hope that is an over-estimated speculation from Adelaide rather than the agreed terms. I won't be happy if we lose our second round pick for Maric. 3rd round and a player (Nason) would be preferable.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2011, 03:01:48 AM
The Crows want more than just a second rounder. They want our/their compo pick we got from them for Tambling back  ::)


Tigers look at Maric for compensation
Jake Niall
The Age
September 14, 2011



RICHMOND has opened trade discussions with Adelaide over ruckman Ivan Maric, with the Crows seeking the compensation pick that the Tigers gained by selling Richard Tambling to Adelaide.

Richmond met Adelaide officials over the weekend and talked about Maric, who is out of contract and favours a trade to Tigerland, where he would be given more opportunities and would be favoured to fill the No. 1 ruck position.

It is understood that the Tigers have not yet made any offer to Adelaide. Port Adelaide is another club that may have an interest in Maric, who played just six games this year for the Crows. Maric was behind recruit Sam Jacobs in the ruck pecking order this year, having played 21 games for Adelaide in 2010.

The Crows are believed to have suggested that they should receive back the compensation selection that they traded to the Tigers for Tambling. That selection was compensation for losing Nathan Bock to the Gold Coast and has not yet been utilised by Richmond, which, like most clubs, wanted to wait until the expansion period was concluded and the draft was free of compromises before using the pick.

The Bock selection was an end-of-first-round selection, which would mean it could be between 19 and 23, for the 2012 draft.

The Tigers are keen to secure a ruckman during the trade period and have identified Maric as a low-cost option in terms of money and draft position, compared with the other possibilities.

Maric also is a Victorian, having played his junior football at Keilor and for Calder under 18s.

Maric, while relatively short for a modern ruckman - he is listed at ''only'' 200 centimetres - is aggressive and gives a good contest. He has played 77 games for the Crows since his debut in 2006.

Adelaide's set-up made it difficult for him, since former Carlton ruckman Jacobs was preferred as the main ruck and the Crows can either use 203-centimetre key forward Kurt Tippett, or even 198-centimetre Shaun McKernan in supporting roles, giving greater flexibility in the three-interchange-plus one-substitute system.

Richmond has an excellent forward and second ruck prospect in Tyrone Vickery, who had a breakout season, but the club struggled at centre bounces. Angus Graham and Andrew Browne had opportunities to be main ruckman, without cementing their position in the side.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-look-at-maric-for-compensation-20110913-1k7t6.html#ixzz1XqvWHGgh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on September 14, 2011, 03:40:22 AM
Yeah right our priority pick for guy that played 5 games this year that can stick up there ass tell them to add Gunston .For that I would want guy playing week in and week out atleast Tambling was.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
Quote
with the Crows seeking the compensation pick that the Tigers gained by selling Richard Tambling to Adelaide.
Talk about dreaming! :rollin

That compo pick is worth far more now given this year's draft is definitely weaker than last year's and we're only 12 months away from it being a end of first round pick in the expected strong 2012 draft. No way is it equal in worth to a fringe player who is their 3rd choice ruckman. This sounds like a ambit claim to eventually settle for and score our 2nd rounder (~pick 37).
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on September 14, 2011, 08:41:27 AM
He's out of contract so lets just sit it out and wait for the PSD.  Even a secound rounder is pushing it.

I would so a straight swap for Jackson
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 14, 2011, 09:11:21 AM
Hindsight is obviously a wonderful thing in Adelaide  ;D

They gave up pick 20 and now they want it back...it isn't our fault they gave it up in the first place  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 14, 2011, 09:15:34 AM
Surely Trent West is a better option. Vardy / TommaHawk combination will be at Geelong for a decade and Dawsom Simpson looks lively.

I'd rather West than Maric.

Plus Ottens may go around again.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 14, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
3rd rounder at best for Maric. Done nothing and isnt worth any pick in the top 40 and certainly not the concession pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 14, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
They can bash sand up before we give em that pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 14, 2011, 01:13:09 PM
3rd rounder plus Nason TOPS.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Adelaide paid picks 33 and 67 last year for Sam Jacobs so for them to ask for our end of first round compo pick is laughable. The most they will get is our second rounder which is around pick 37 and even then we are paying over the odds.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on September 14, 2011, 01:25:47 PM
How funny is this from the dibby dobbers! - If we 'really' want him?, let him walk.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2011, 01:37:38 PM
It's harder for us to get someone to walk to us for free in the PSD this year as we don't have a early PSD pick. Last year we had pick 2; this year we have pick 6.

1. Gold Coast
2. Port Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Adelaide
5. Melbourne
6. Richmond

We would need to frontload his contract on offer to scare off the 5 clubs in front of us.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 8.8.56 Brother! on September 14, 2011, 01:49:27 PM
Doubt we could front-load a contract anymore than Port Adelaide could.
Given their dire need for a ruckman also, would have thought our best chance to snag Maric would be via trade.
Perhaps Adelaide should have looked at upping his value a little by playing him in more than 3 out of the last 6 rounds...rather than just stating they want a 2nd round pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on September 14, 2011, 02:29:28 PM
No I think the front loading option is a good option. If Port look like they will match it then perhaps we could back load it and while this may be ackward if we manage players contracts correctly, this may scare off Port and at the very least make Adelaide be a little less demanding at the trade table.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on September 14, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
Do they need to be scared off?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 14, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
Apparently we only want him if he's cheap. Compo or 2nd round isn't exactly cheap. Would expect us to back off or push him to walk.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on September 14, 2011, 03:10:05 PM
If Maric says Tigers or bust I think the PSD is the best option.  No other club seems to but in if the player commits to one club.  Bugger off Crows
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2011, 03:20:54 PM
I think we'll try to do a fair trade provided the Crows are reasonable. Maintaining good trading relations can come in handy in the future. Only if Adelaide starting carrying on like Essendon did with Houli last year will we resort to saying stuff 'em let's grab Maric in the PSD.

Btw we gained the compo pick plus pick 51 (MacDonald) for Tambling so the article isn't exactly correct.

Also Adelaide gave up Griffin to Freo last year for only pick 61. So they are kidding themselves based on their own trades last year to now expect a compo pick in return for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 14, 2011, 04:03:43 PM
exactly MT - i dont care how diluted this draft is, Maric is not worth pick 2 in any draft and as for the compo pick...  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 14, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
Not happy with this trade unless he comes to us for virtually nix.  I don't rate him but he couldn't be any worse than Graham so he would need to cost us nothing for me to be even remotely satisfied with it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 14, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Craig said he was someone you'd like in the trenches with you a few years ago.

You'd expect he'd have a dip on the field.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2011, 02:36:35 AM
Who is this year's best trade bait?

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    September 15, 2011


2. Ivan Maric (Adelaide)

It is a done deal that he will get to Richmond, it's just the price clubs Adelaide and the Tigers are haggling over.

No, he isn't a superstar, but his Adelaide teammates rate him as a tap ruckman.

And the Tigers don't need him to become Shane Mumford, they just need him as a stop-gap for several years.

They actually believe Ty Vickery will eventually become their star ruckman, so don't want to give up a raft of draft picks when they will have a solution soon.

All of Ben Griffiths, David Astbury, Jayden Post and Matt Dea are tall options if Vickery eventually finds himself as a ruckman.

Adelaide wants the compo pick back that they gave Richmond for Richard Tambling, which would likely be late teens or early 20s.

It's about the right price given Tambling hasn't fired much, but who knows if Richmond are prepared to hand it over?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/who-is-this-years-best-trade-bait/story-fn6cisdj-1226137300852
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 15, 2011, 02:57:26 AM
We better effing not. If we do then we're still a bunch of dumbasses. If that's what they want then stick with Beefcake and the VLC.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 15, 2011, 02:59:55 AM
And you love it Davey cakes........
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 15, 2011, 07:24:34 AM
I Think Ralphy has been on the Turps.
"compo pick right price cause Tambling hasn't fired"

Now WTF has Tambling got to do with Maric.

Seriously we can't let this happen

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 15, 2011, 07:31:06 AM
IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 15, 2011, 07:37:33 AM
IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric

That would just be poohouse from us tho, al. We raped them with the Tambo trade. effing molested the dobber pricks. No need to give that compo pick back just to be nice ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 15, 2011, 07:40:16 AM
IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric

No Al it would not be
Tambling has been done and dusted finished
The trade would be Maric for a compo pick in a super draft

They are trying to bend us over like we bent them over

These 2 players have and should have nothing to do with each other.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 15, 2011, 08:15:01 AM
When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow

Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".

As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?

Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?

Does anyone know for sure how this works?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 15, 2011, 09:39:35 AM
When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow

Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".

As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?

Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?

Does anyone know for sure how this works?
It's an 'end of first round compensation pick', which means it falls directly after the first round.

This year and last year, the first round ends in the late 20's because of the GC and GWS having 9-10 picks in the first round. Next year the first round ends at pick 18, which means our pick would be 19 if activated (pending of course there are no priority picks given out which would push our pick back further).

Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer.  :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on September 15, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
Haha, well researched Ralphy.

Matt Dea is a tall option!!!  :wallywink

Also, as already mentioned, what has Tambling get to do with this? Are we supposed to give the pick back just because Tambling hasn't fired 'We'll trade you Tambling, but he comes with a 12 month draft pick back guarantee if he's no good'?

No refunds Adelaide, thanks for the compo pick and Dean McDonald..... suckers!  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 15, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
I Think Ralphy has been on the Turps.
"compo pick right price cause Tambling hasn't fired"

Now WTF has Tambling got to do with Maric.

Seriously we can't let this happen
Exactly daniel - what Tambling has or hasn't done is irrelevant and is past history. Just another idiotic footy journo coming up with crap logic  ::). I mean according to Ralph's logic we should give Houli back to Essendon for just their PSD pick ::).
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 15, 2011, 01:51:45 PM
i dont believe we will trade with Adelaide.

Dimma is not stupid well i hope his not. After what they did to King we should give them an ultimatum 3rd rounder or nason's left testy or shove it up your date.

stuffin dobbers what a pathetic bunch they are over there
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 15, 2011, 01:54:14 PM
i dont believe we will trade with Adelaide.

Dimma is not stupid well i hope his not. After what they did to King we should give them an ultimatum 3rd rounder or nason's left testy or shove it up your date.

stuffin dobbers what a pathetic bunch they are over there

I couldn't agree more Dan but the problem we are desperate for a ruckman and if the club has identified Maric as the best available the unfortunately we have to go for it :banghead I would be bitterly disappointed if we give anything less than a 3rd rounder though :pray


Edit: edited quote
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yandb on September 15, 2011, 02:13:52 PM
There are more ruckmen around should Adelaide be unreasonable. Blake from Geelong is on a par with Maric and wont come with a high price tag.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 15, 2011, 06:44:25 PM
When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow

Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".

As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?

Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?

Does anyone know for sure how this works?
It's an 'end of first round compensation pick', which means it falls directly after the first round.

This year and last year, the first round ends in the late 20's because of the GC and GWS having 9-10 picks in the first round. Next year the first round ends at pick 18, which means our pick would be 19 if activated (pending of course there are no priority picks given out which would push our pick back further).

Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer.  :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.

Cheers JVT
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 15, 2011, 06:56:18 PM
blake is another angus

no way to blake
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on September 15, 2011, 07:35:14 PM

Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer.  :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.

Further to this talk on 2012 draft, it's been reported by a few junior experts that the reason why it's so good is because there are a lot (read 10 to 20) top line key position players as well as slightly more than usual numbers of other types.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 15, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
Jon Ralph is a crayon eater

total peanut
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 15, 2011, 08:41:42 PM
John Ralph is a Rubber Phallus
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 15, 2011, 08:58:49 PM
Jon Ralph is a crayon eater

total peanut
:lol

Quote
MISS HOOVER: Now, take some paste and spread it on the construction paper... Ralph! Are you eating your paste?
RALPH: No Miss Hoover

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Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 15, 2011, 11:35:19 PM

Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer.  :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.

Further to this talk on 2012 draft, it's been reported by a few junior experts that the reason why it's so good is because there are a lot (read 10 to 20) top line key position players as well as slightly more than usual numbers of other types.
The Club definitely wants to free up as many picks for next year's draft. That's why I don't believe we will trade our compo pick unless someone becomes available during trade week that we couldn't say no to. Maric of course ain't it. 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2011, 10:50:32 AM
If you all look back, the RFC has continually had to draft recycled ruckman. I don't think we have had a decent first string one club ruckman since the General & Benny Gale. Greg Dear, Greg Stafford, Troy Simmonds & Trent Knobel-Lodygood were all reasonable ruckman (Trent not so much). Our recent attempts to grow our own ruckman have not been too successful with Patto, Beefcake & Browne, so maybe Maric may fit the bill.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 16, 2011, 02:36:07 PM
Staff was a very good ruckman. Just spent too much time on the sidelines with suspension or injury
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 16, 2011, 03:15:22 PM
Ottens wasn't too bad but he had no interest in RFC at the time.

If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 16, 2011, 03:28:55 PM
If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.

lol.....Don't you think the problem is NONE OF THESE GUY"S ARE AVAILABLE  :banghead I am sure if the best ruckman going round was on the market we would be doing everything in our power to woe him! I am sure we have made inquires  to the managment to half a dozen top line ruckmen but to be honest as far as a club goes we don't actually offer allot of incentive for them to come to us at the moment :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 16, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.

lol.....Don't you think the problem is NONE OF THESE GUY"S ARE AVAILABLE  :banghead I am sure if the best ruckman going round was on the market we would be doing everything in our power to woe him! I am sure we have made inquires  to the managment to half a dozen top line ruckmen but to be honest as far as a club goes we don't actually offer allot of incentive for them to come to us at the moment :o :o :o
Unfortunately I have to agree, it isn't like we are in a 2 year premiership window
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2011, 03:53:23 PM
Staff was a very good ruckman. Just spent too much time on the sidelines with suspension or injury
The problem wasn't necessarily with Staff but how we got him. The Club forced Benny Gale into retirement because we couldn't afford him to go on post-2001 after Gas and Ben Holland's new contracts took up a large chunk of our salary cap. Without a partner ruck for Ottens we had to sell farm to find a quick replacement. That meant our first round pick in the 2001 superdraft plus paying the Swans to take Daffy's large contract off our hands to get Staff. That pick ended up being James Kelly to Geelong  :scream. Well done Mark Brayshaw  :banghead.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on September 16, 2011, 10:11:54 PM
Gotta agree that the compo for Maric is well over the odds.

Perhaps offer a 4th (with words to the effect of thats a 2nd rounder + a round for each week the Push-up King received) and settle back to accept the 3rd round choice, with reluctance of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2011, 10:37:43 PM
We didn't cave last year when Essendon wanted our 2nd rounder for Houli  :wallywink so hopefully we do the same with the Crows ridiculously asking for the compo pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TFL on September 17, 2011, 12:02:06 AM
Just got home from the G, i know it wont happen but gee Mumford would be handy. Played a super game tonight and was the driving force behind the Swans getting back into the game.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 17, 2011, 06:28:48 AM
Mumford doesn't just play footy ,he influences the game
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Him on September 17, 2011, 06:43:21 AM
Mumford doesn't just play footy ,he influences the game

Pity he couldn't win the game for them.
 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 17, 2011, 10:49:31 AM
lol umpires 'influence' games too doesn't make them good footballers.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 18, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
Adelaide Crows want compo pick

    Jesper Fjeldstad
    From: Sunday Mail (SA)
    September 17, 2011 10:00PM



ADELAIDE is talking to Richmond about trading Ivan Maric with the compo pick they used for Richard Tambling.

Maric, a Victorian who has slipped in the pecking order at West Lakes after the recruitment of ex-Blue Sam Jacobs, is understood to want to play for a club where he has more opportunity and Richmond is one of the suitors.

The biggest hurdle with all potential trades is agreeing on how the club that loses a player is compensated, but it is understood an option of trading Maric for a compensation pick is being explored. It's the pick that keeps giving - potentially being used as currency for the third time.

The Crows initially received the end-of-first-round draft pick from the AFL in compensation for Nathan Bock's departure to the Gold Coast last year and then traded it to Richmond to acquire the services of Tambling.

The Tigers, in turn, banked the pick, which can be used up until 2015, and now the Crows will consider it as full or partial payback for Maric. Richmond is understood to be seeking a No. 1 ruckman to work alongside Tyron Vickery and Maric, 25, has been identified as one who can make up for his lack of height (he is listed at 200cm but was listed at 198 cm in 2010) with his competitiveness and second efforts.

If the Maric deal goes through, the Crows will keep an eye out for a ruckman but they are not desperate to find one, knowing they have both Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan who can be used as pinch-hitters behind Jacobs.

On top of Adelaide's wish list for the trade and draft period is to find another key defender - because of the departures of Bock and Phil Davis - and more midfielders.

The Crows have put a contract offer in front of Tony Armstrong, who returned to the side late this season after a rich vein of form in the SANFL, and hope to retain his services.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/adelaide-crows-want-compo-pick/story-fn76njus-1226139924041
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 18, 2011, 12:54:01 AM
Would be waste if we did that.
Keep the compo and stay firm. Offer them McGuane and Nason.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 18, 2011, 07:43:51 AM
we must keep that pick and use it smartly when we r already in the 8 and then can pick up a good kid. do not ever give that pick back to adelaide or anyone
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 18, 2011, 07:53:37 AM
They can explore it all they stuffing like...unless they are throwing a decent sweetener in with that they might as well be exploring ... a  hand mirror for all I care.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 18, 2011, 08:02:51 AM
 :lol

West Lakes Waffles
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 18, 2011, 09:00:40 AM
Drop that compo pick and I will drop manure on CC head
Dimma can get stuffed too

It will be the biggest blunder since the trading for McMahon

Don't stuffin do it Richnond
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 18, 2011, 10:15:56 AM
Drop that compo pick and I will drop manure on CC head
Dimma can get stuffed too

It will be the biggest blunder since the trading for McMahon

Don't stuffin do it Richnond

Don't know that I'll join in the manure drop Daniel but I agree 100% with the rest of it!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 18, 2011, 01:03:30 PM
Jon Ralph on SEN said Maric to Richmond is a done deal but he didn't mention what the deal is.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 18, 2011, 01:16:52 PM
second rounder I bet.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 18, 2011, 02:17:42 PM
Two days ago we hadnt made a deal. Its a done deal he's coming to us though. Just need to find a fair trade.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 18, 2011, 03:21:08 PM
oh c'mon I got edited for that?  They could be checking their makeup...
Obviously you never went to art school lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 18, 2011, 03:32:33 PM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on September 18, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Exactly,

The 2 decision of Maric and resigning Jackson have been pathetic.

If Jackson is resigned I wont be buying a membership next year, If we give up overs for Maric just validates it was the correct decision.

Makes me sad
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 18, 2011, 05:41:54 PM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Exactly,

The 2 decision of Maric and resigning Jackson have been pathetic.

If Jackson is resigned I wont be buying a membership next year, If we give up overs for Maric just validates it was the correct decision.

Makes me sad

thats pathetic what kind of supporter are you...a fair dinkum joke that's what :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 18, 2011, 09:16:34 PM
agree  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 19, 2011, 06:56:26 AM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Yep I totally agree

For the life of me I cannot understand why we bothered getting that bloke who couldn't get a game at the lowly bombers .... :banghead :banghead what was his name again ? ? ?? ? ?

Oh yeah that's right.... BACHAR HOULI... heard of him

 :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 19, 2011, 07:03:10 AM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: blaisee on September 19, 2011, 08:36:51 AM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .

you are a bunny jack  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: T_o_O on September 19, 2011, 09:06:28 AM
I would have taken a few from last year's Weagles.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 19, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .

 ::) ::)

The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.

You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."

I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now  :rollin ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 19, 2011, 09:55:38 AM
i give up ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 19, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
havn't you ever given your poor suffering staff the quitters never win and winners never quit speech?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: blaisee on September 19, 2011, 11:06:05 AM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .

 ::) ::)

The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.

You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."

I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now  :rollin ;D

well done willie,

I know correcting jack isnt much of a challenge, its like picking low lying fruit, but you do it well.

What an absolute bunny that man is :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 19, 2011, 11:14:57 AM
i give up ::)

Agree - I think you should  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on September 19, 2011, 12:51:54 PM
The Maric talk bewilders me.

I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.

Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.

I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home!  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 19, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
The Maric talk bewilders me.

I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.

Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.

I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home!  :lol
Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric. I'm not saying Maric is a superstar or will end up like Mumford, but he is miles in front of Browne and Graham. Graham is pathetic.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Puntroadroar on September 19, 2011, 01:20:49 PM
The Maric talk bewilders me.

I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.

Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.

I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home!  :lol

I know you were kidding but we could offer Nic Nat $1.5 mill a year and he still wouldnt come.  :(
Will be an eagle for life.

I personally think Maric will have a positive effect at Richmond, he might not be too much of an improvement than Graham but what it will do is make sure Angus works his arse off to keep his spot, this season he was coasting along being a lazy prick. I think if we can get a 10% improvement out of him it would make a huge difference. It would give someone like Browne & Derrickx much needed time to develop properly.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 19, 2011, 01:47:40 PM
Browne needs more than time to develop properly, he needs an effing miracle.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 19, 2011, 01:58:21 PM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .

 ::) ::)

The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.

You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."

I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now  :rollin ;D

well done willie,

I know correcting jack isnt much of a challenge, its like picking low lying fruit, but you do it well.

What an absolute bunny that man is :wallywink

maybe you should do some work Blaisee, mail about business isnt that flash ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 19, 2011, 05:32:26 PM
You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .

How?  The fact that hindsight showed us Bachar could actually play?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 19, 2011, 07:45:13 PM
I reackon Houli is a gun for what its worth.
Had issues at Bombers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 19, 2011, 07:59:59 PM
and maric had injuries.
...but let me guess, one is a reason and the other is an excuse?

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 19, 2011, 09:02:04 PM
I reackon Houli is a gun for what its worth.
Had issues at Bombers

Issues, injuries,  - not relevant to your initial argument

Facts are he could not get a game for what ever reason in a crap bottom 4 side in the bombers in 2010

Under the criteria you are using for why the club shouldn't recruit Maric we should not have recruited Houli

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 19, 2011, 09:39:04 PM
The Maric talk bewilders me.

I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.

Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.

I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home!  :lol
Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric. I'm not saying Maric is a superstar or will end up like Mumford, but he is miles in front of Browne and Graham. Graham is pathetic.

and brownes not? :chuck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: T_o_O on September 19, 2011, 10:00:19 PM
and brownes not? :chuck

Browne at least just turned 21 a short while ago. Deserves a bit more time,plenty of big guys have started slowly.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 19, 2011, 10:06:18 PM
"Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric"

BY who? Mummy could clearly play. Showed quite a bit in his last year at Geelong. And Jacobs effing dominated the elim final last year didn't he? Maric is what? 25? Maybe he does have a dip but he is hardly better than Beefcake.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 19, 2011, 10:38:18 PM
Back off Davey  >:( >:(Maric will crush the Beefcake back into his toasted bun where he belongs :eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 20, 2011, 09:08:05 AM
and brownes not? :chuck

Browne at least just turned 21 a short while ago. Deserves a bit more time,plenty of big guys have started slowly.
I think Browne has time on his side as opposed to Gus, BTW I think if we are serious they should both be gone by 2012 end. Maric and Derickx to take most of our ruck load next year, hoping that Derickx can stay fit and free of injury because he is a tackle machine for a bloke so big and actually knows how to take a contested grab.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 20, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
New Adelaide coach Brenton Sanderson just said when asked about Maric that they will be having a list management meeting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2011, 02:54:49 AM
The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.

Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.

This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 23, 2011, 07:02:56 AM
The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.

Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.

This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567

Sign Neil sign

You'll be unconditionally loved by so many if you sign  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 23, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf

Craig must be a done deal
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on September 23, 2011, 11:41:12 AM
I believe Neil would be a great addition to our fitness and coaching team and if that mean's Maric declining to join us then so be it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 23, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf

Craig must be a done deal

I think u may be onto something.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 23, 2011, 05:28:55 PM
That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf

Craig must be a done deal

I think u may be onto something.

EFA
 ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2011, 05:51:27 PM
The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.

Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.

This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567

Sign Neil sign

You'll be unconditionally loved by so many if you sign  :rollin :rollin :rollin
:lol

It's a shame we couldn't have signed Rodney Eade prior to the Jordie trade  ;D.



In all seriousness though I still think the Club will trade for Maric given I was told a few weesk ago he had signed a HOA with us  :-\.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 23, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
yeah unless you were told bs...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 23, 2011, 06:43:58 PM
I was told that Knobel was coming back to Richmond but none of you listened.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2011, 07:54:06 PM
yeah unless you were told bs...
:nope  ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2011, 03:37:20 AM
Strike three as Crows lose Armstrong

    Andrew Capel
    From: The Advertiser
    September 24, 2011


TONY Armstrong is the third Crow to walk out on the club in two weeks.

In another body blow to Brenton Sanderson's new side, Armstrong has requested a trade to Sydney.

He joins other wantaway Crows, forward Jack Gunston and ruckman Ivan Maric, in quitting Adelaide.

Gunston, 19, wants to return home to Victoria - where he is being chased by up to five clubs - while Maric, 25, is seeking opportunities at another club after having fallen behind Sam Jacobs, Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan in the ruck pecking order at Adelaide.

Richmond is the favourite to secure the popular big man's services.


Noble said the Crows - who have a sad history of losing non-South Australians to interstate rivals - were virtually resigned to losing the trio and would now try to work deals for players and/or draft picks.

"We'll have another chat with them or their managers because you have to make sure they understand we've got a new coach, a good group together and they could get different opportunities," he said.

"So if they want to stay, that's fine; but if they don't want to work with us and help us move forward, then it's best we move people out who don't want to be here."

With this year's national draft described as "shallow", Ade- laide will be seeking reason- ably high draft picks for its exit men.

"We're touching base with clubs at the moment to see what's on offer," Noble said.

"But we'd expect something of value in return for all three of them, whether it's players or draft picks."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/strike-three-as-crows-lose-armstrong/story-e6frecoc-1226144979141
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2011, 05:56:43 PM
New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 24, 2011, 05:59:40 PM
New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"

Hmm

How does this sound for a trade for Maric  ;D

Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder  ;D :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 24, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"

Hmm

How does this sound for a trade for Maric  ;D

Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder  ;D :rollin

I would call that a win  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
Here is Maric's SANFL stats this year playing with the Port Adelaide Magpies....

http://www.portmagpies.com.au/player_profile.php?pid=1012
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 24, 2011, 10:41:18 PM
New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"

Hmm

How does this sound for a trade for Maric  ;D

Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder  ;D :rollin

Given Connors 2010 we could probably make it our 3rd for their 2nd. But that's probably greedy.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 25, 2011, 06:56:54 AM
Here is Maric's SANFL stats this year playing with the Port Adelaide Magpies....

http://www.portmagpies.com.au/player_profile.php?pid=1012

 :'(

Doesn't exactly dominate at that level does he?  I'm not a fan of giving away much at all to get Maric, I don't have very high expectations that he will be much better than Beefcake.  If we do get him then I think the best outcome for 2012 will be that either Browne or Derricxk show improvement.  Hope I'm wrong about him but I'm already nervous.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 25, 2011, 04:18:22 PM
The beefcake is getting so ripped for 2012 he is going to smash all opposition
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on September 25, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
one word...whoa...thats what i call domination...He could be the next BIG thing :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2011, 03:17:34 AM
Sanderson is more understanding of Maric's desire to be a lead ruckman at a rival AFL club now this role has been secured by Sam Jacobs at Adelaide.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/crows-coach-wants-drafting-process-widenened-to-include-non-sa-players/story-e6frecoc-1226146191465

Hopefully that "understanding" also means we get Maric cheaply.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 26, 2011, 07:48:34 AM
I agree with him, it always irritated me that the princesses up in Sydney/Brisbane etc get more money to live in a city with all the luxuries and mod cons of a big city and those who live in Adelaide and Port Adelaide or Freo etc are basically living in big country or coastal towns.  Freo is nice but it still is a long way from home if your from the east coast.  It has literally dismantled Port and Freo are constantly being pilfered.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 29, 2011, 03:23:19 PM
Greg Denham mentioned this morning on KB's show that in his opinion a second round pick for Maric is about right but that Adelaide are still asking for higher (ie. our compo pick).
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Cotch on September 29, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
They can get stuffed. PSD it is.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 29, 2011, 03:27:39 PM
Greg Denham mentioned this morning on KB's show that in his opinion a second round pick for Maric is about right but that Adelaide are still asking for higher (ie. our compo pick).

Youve got to be joking Denham. 2nd round pick for a spud stop gap ruckman who has only once averaged dbl digit possessions in his career? blimey, if we pay overs for Maric I will be one angry idiot
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 29, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Exactly we can't play hardball on Houli and get him via the PSD only to hand back our banked compo pick. Will be terrible by the club and I am sure they are aware of it so the fact this is lingering for so long I think means that there is no finality on this and Adelaide are more hopeful we come to the party rather than us willing to party.
If Tambling is a dud so be it Crows suck it up. We aint handing it back for nothing.
We have hardly spoken on this and it seems all the articles on this have been from Adelaide's end and what they are looking for.
If Maric is coming to Richmond I think it may only be through the PSD.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Absolut Tigers on September 29, 2011, 06:56:02 PM
You're spot on Tuckerbag. There's no way RFC will give us compensation pick for slight upgrade to Graham
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 29, 2011, 07:39:54 PM
Not even an upgrade. What is the effing point of replacing Beefcake with this bloke
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 29, 2011, 07:50:11 PM
Dead right TB, we do not need to give anything up for this bloke, really a last round pick and Edwards would do I reckon.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 29, 2011, 08:11:25 PM
Edwards is being extremely generous dont you think?? He has more currency than a 4th tier ruckman
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 29, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
Edwards is being extremely generous dont you think?? He has more currency than a 4th tier ruckman

Um no I don't, wouldnt exactly call Edwards anything more than a fringe player..average at that. Maybe we just give Edwards as the last round pick may be of more value.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2011, 09:46:26 PM
Ruckmen are usually overpriced when in demand. Although we won't like it, a 2nd round pick (our pick 37) is most likely the price we'll end up paying when Jacobs went to the Crows last year for picks 34 & 67. Maybe even pick 37 + Nason. As everyone else has said no way should our compo pick be on the table. Of course when we turn up to trade week we should be offering an ambit claim of a 3rd or 4th round pick for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 29, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
How about we go after Maric only through the PSD and tell Adelaide to go and f themselves and play hardball with them as we did with Essendon.

I think someone like Renouf would be a better ruckman for us rather than Maric. Renouf's work around the ground is alot better and more crisp.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2011, 10:22:13 PM
We would need to convince Maric to not nominate for the National Draft and wait for the PSD and then front-load his 4-year contract to scare off the 5 clubs with earlier picks - GC, Port, Bris, Adel and Melb.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 30, 2011, 07:01:42 AM
We would need to convince Maric to not nominate for the National Draft and wait for the PSD and then front-load his 4-year contract to scare off the 5 clubs with earlier picks - GC, Port, Bris, Adel and Melb.

4 year contract lol. Unbelievable and Stupid IMHO.  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 30, 2011, 07:23:58 AM
Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on September 30, 2011, 07:29:18 AM
I think hes better than Graham (Just) its the 4 year contract that is the problem. Shouldnt have been offered more than 2 years IMHO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 30, 2011, 07:51:45 AM
The four year contract is a strange one IF true.

The reported value is not much in the scheme of things for an AFL though and if we had to terminate his contract early we would not be paying out a great deal, even more so if the contract was front loaded.

Personally i have serious doubts about a 4 year contract being true though
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 30, 2011, 08:57:14 AM
Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on September 30, 2011, 09:22:59 AM
I thought the whole idea was for Blair Hartley to identify unfulfilled talent at other clubs. Talent that we believe we can take to the next level. Anyone can pick the top players from opposition teams, it's identifying the ones that are under performing and not getting opportunities, that's where the real skill is.

He could end up looking like a complete idiot or a genius.

I suppose we'll see.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on September 30, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.

He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 30, 2011, 12:28:49 PM
He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract

Reportedly via the unrelaible media

BTW the last long term contract we offered a ruckman in a trade situation dind't tunr out too bad IIRC  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 30, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Yeah but that bloke was a decent player who could also play forward. Maric :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 30, 2011, 01:33:24 PM
Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.

He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 30, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.

He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.

I don't think the reasoning why Maric has not been getting a game matters as the trade and what price we pay for it (if any if he goes PSD) should be based on what he has done in his career thus far.
I prefer to get him PSD and not lose anything for him like the Houli situation last year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 30, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.

He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.

I don't think the reasoning why Maric has not been getting a game matters as the trade and what price we pay for it (if any if he goes PSD) should be based on what he has done in his career thus far.
I prefer to get him PSD and not lose anything for him like the Houli situation last year.
I agree Tucker, we shouldn't pay anything over a 3rd rounder for him, or a straight swap for a Nason type player. PSD is my preferred option unless we have someone better planned for there.

My previous comment was simply stating he cant be judged on his stats (which were collated on limited game time) and that not being selected every week proves nothing, as this could be for many other reasons.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 02, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
How many dud ruckmen does one club need?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 02, 2011, 04:28:54 PM
3 average ruckmen = no ruckmen.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on October 02, 2011, 04:35:07 PM
another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on October 02, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
another Trent Knobel on his way ::)

He was our best tap ruckman for a long time although he didn't play many games. We were the best hit out to advantage team in the first half of 2005 all thanks to Knobel  8)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Danog on October 02, 2011, 05:13:16 PM
another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
No offence mate, but what are you on ?  Been in a negative mood all week.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 02, 2011, 05:15:30 PM
another Trent Knobel on his way ::)

He was our best tap ruckman for a long time although he didn't play many games. We were the best hit out to advantage team in the first half of 2005 all thanks to Knobel  8)

Yep. Pathetic from you, JJ. Effing pathetic. Knobel was a beanpole but he was a good tap ruckman. Maric isn't even that ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on October 02, 2011, 05:27:59 PM
I bait you blokes everyweek and you all for in.LOL
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 02, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Think you'll find we've been baiting you for years and you keep coming back for more.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 02, 2011, 05:58:51 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 02, 2011, 06:39:16 PM
a few toys ended up on the floor when it was looking like we would not get craig so his opinion on such matters would be held in in some stead?

Quote
"He is making some real strides," Craig said of Maric.

"He's doing some outstanding work, with a good workrate, he's starting to be more dominant around the field, particularly in defence.

"He will become one of the elite big men in the competition.

"Off the field, he's really developing some leadership and I think that adds to his game - he's come a long way and will continue to do so."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/neil-craig-backs-ivan-maric-against-aaron-sandilands/story-e6frf9jf-1225875516022

"He will become one of the elite big men in the competition"

is a pretty big call!



Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 02, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
I have refused ri read this thread as I know I wont like what I read.

If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 02, 2011, 10:09:58 PM
If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.

Someone pass the bucket  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 02, 2011, 10:10:43 PM
 :chuck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 02, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.

Someone pass the bucket  ;D

Its gonna have to be a bloody big bucket if what we're reading on the forums is any reaction to whats gonna happen.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 03, 2011, 12:45:04 AM
rumour is connors for big ivan
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on October 03, 2011, 01:11:33 AM
rumour is connors for big ivan

yep. Connors new best mates on twitter are Bernie Vince and Taylor Walker. Think we do alright in that deal. Doubt Connors was going to be best 22 anyway next year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 03, 2011, 02:17:11 AM
happy with it as long as big Ivan doesn't get 4 years. Beefcake is the forgotten man :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on October 03, 2011, 03:13:35 AM
Beefy hasn't eaten a carb in 7 years.

For that alone he should be captain.

Maric has never slapped and told her to "Go all in",so how good a ruckman could he be,serously....

Andrew Browne should be told to pack up his banjo and his running style and pawned,all for the price of a meal and a roof over his head.
Do with him what they will.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 03, 2011, 03:40:16 AM
rumour is connors for big ivan
Rumour on Carlton forums is that Jordan Russell may be heading home and traded to Adelaide. If that's true it could be combined with the rumour about us looking to do a trade with Carlton - such as a 3-way swap:

Connors -> Carlton
Russell -> Adelaide
Maric -> Richmond
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 03, 2011, 06:58:55 AM
Connors traded out will do me

Whether it's Adel, Carlton or Moyhu 2nds I really don't care  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 03, 2011, 10:06:10 AM
Connors traded out will do me

Whether it's Adel, Carlton or Moyhu 2nds I really don't care  ;D

Yep its actually a positive bc I am/was convinced no-one would look at him.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on October 03, 2011, 07:07:16 PM
...i'd be ok with connors for maric but agree anything higher than a 3rd rounder would be junk...espesh if we hold the cards and can get him via PSD (not my preferred method but still gives us the upper hand)...connors is on the way out anyway so getting a "need" in return would be handy...don't think Maric will be a superstar or "one of the elite big men in the comp" as quoted, but hopefully develops late like a Jamar (and he had a reasonably solid 2010)...anyone that can help feed our mids a bit would be an upgrade...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 03, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
Still on my phone since the net isn't connected in my new place still so i cant tell if this has been said already and hopefully this link isn't buggered up: http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22479684&postcount=136

A few blokes on BF have said that Connors' new mates on Twitter are Taylor Walker and Bernie Vince and they were 'tweetibg' about hanging out and such. Sounds like we can nearly pencil in Connors <-> Maric. Doesn't make a difference to me. Connors has been non-existent.

Edit/update/whatever: just checked out twitter to see what the deal was and searched for danconnors19-
"The greatest man @texwalker13 alive new bestie get right around him" -danconnors19
"@Danconnors19 Dan the man!! The suit on it!!" -texwalker13
"Happy birthday to @bvince17 xxx see u soon hopefully" -danconnors19

And there are some more. Sounds like he's keen himself on heading to Adelaide. The x's to Vince are concerning though. At least we can use Maric and Rance to recruit some female supporters.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 04, 2011, 03:11:15 AM
In other trade news, Richmond and Adelaide remain at loggerheads over ruckman Ivan Maric going to Punt Rd, with negotiations likely to go deep into trade week.

The Tigers have promised to trade aggressively, but a deal is some way off despite Maric's determination to leave South Australia.

Richmond does not want to give up its first round pick (No.14) or the compensation pick it received last year from Adelaide for Richard Tambling.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/disgruntled-crow-jack-gunston-wants-to-join-hawthorn/story-e6frf9jf-1226157578861

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 04, 2011, 04:09:28 AM
They have got to be kidding  :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 04, 2011, 05:03:13 AM
If we give that compensation pick back to them we are a stuffing joke, fair dinkum joke.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 04, 2011, 07:00:30 AM
Richmond does not want to give up its first round pick (No.14) or the compensation pick it received last year from Adelaide for Richard Tambling.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/disgruntled-crow-jack-gunston-wants-to-join-hawthorn/story-e6frf9jf-1226157578861

 :thumbsup :thumbsup ONYA Tiges  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 04, 2011, 08:07:32 AM
Lets hope they do not give in on this one.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 04, 2011, 09:00:27 AM
They won't give in, and Adelaide will not be receiving anything more than our 3rd pick for Maric. I have the utmost confidence that we will get Maric for what WE are willing to pay. To be perfectly honest, the longer it goes into trade week the better, PSD will be looming for him, just as it did for Bachar.  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 04, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
You know, nowhere in the article does it actually state that the crows are asking for a first round or compo pick, just that richmond are not prepared to give it up.
The crayon muncher is just being mischievous. I'm sure they put things in their articles just to see what reaction they get on the forums.

It also goes completely against the idea of a straight swap for connors?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 04, 2011, 09:59:31 AM
agree Al
ralphy doesnt get enough fibre from his crayola bran
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2011, 02:09:39 AM
The Crows will be a big player in trade week.

They have to try to work deals with Hawthorn, Richmond and Sydney, who want forward Jack Gunston, ruckman Ivan Maric and midfielder Tony Armstrong respectively.

Noble said Adelaide wants a combination of players and draft picks inside the top 30 for the trio.

"I won't go into specific trade options because there's still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge but we expect something good in return for these players," he said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-will-have-first-call-on-brad-ebert/story-e6freco3-1226159696597
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 06, 2011, 07:23:17 AM
So they basically want good stuff for poor to average players. lol. We have to be stupid to give them any more than a 3rd rounder and Nason.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 06, 2011, 11:05:35 AM
Yep.
All 3 of those blokes are average footballers, all are out of contract, and all have stated their preferred destinations.
The Crows are about to get gangbanged.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on October 06, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Yep.
All 3 of those blokes are average footballers, all are out of contract, and all have stated their preferred destinations.
The Crows are about to get gangbanged.

Rich, Haw, Syd should just offer them peanuts. Adelaide can't draft them all back in PSD.  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 06, 2011, 11:22:47 AM
ahh poor ol crows, they want their compo pick back for tambo....they hava da buyers remorse
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
From the Adelaide BF Board ....

Trade #2: Maric To Richmond

Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)

Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)



 :wallywink :rollin :stupid
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 06, 2011, 12:56:25 PM
From the Adelaide BF Board ....

Trade #2: Maric To Richmond

Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)

Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)



 :wallywink :rollin :stupid

When I read this last night I lost it. I'm still not sure their struggle trying to understand it. If Maric can be scooped up in the PSD for no easier than a third then why in hell would we pay more in a trade?  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on October 06, 2011, 01:10:24 PM
From the Adelaide BF Board ....

Trade #2: Maric To Richmond

Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)

Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)



 :wallywink :rollin :stupid

Funniest post on this board for a long time. Wonder what they have been smoking, what ever it is is friggin good.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 06, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
golden grove kush
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on October 06, 2011, 01:13:26 PM
Just got to watch snowtown the other day  8)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 06, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
Just got to watch snowtown the other day  8)

Roll out the barrel. ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 07, 2011, 03:31:51 AM
Tigers keen to talk trade deal on Maric

    by: Zac Milbank
    From: The Advertiser
    October 07, 2011


RICHMOND is refusing to be drawn on what Adelaide can expect in exchange for wantaway Crows ruckman Ivan Maric.

As trade week talks begin in Melbourne on Monday, Richmond's head of football Craig Cameron would not buy into speculation the Tigers' first-round draft pick (No. 14) would be used to take Maric to Tigerland.

"I'm hopeful we can come to a deal with Adelaide. I know they've got a couple of other things on the go," Cameron said, alluding to deals the Crows need to finalise for the departing Tony Armstrong and Jack Gunston.

"Adelaide has always been a club which is good to deal with in trade week so I'm hopeful we can come to an arrangement next week."

Speaking publicly for the first time about Maric, 25, Cameron said he would bring needed experience for the Tigers' ruck division.

Cameron is buoyed by the Victorian's desire to shoulder the load next year at the stoppages.

"He's an aggressive bigman and we think he can have a physical presence for us which is really important," Cameron said.

"We need to give our younger ruckmen some real support."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-keen-to-talk-trade-deal-on-maric/story-e6frecjc-1226160655678


The Tigers are in discussions with Adelaide over ruckman Ivan Maric, who wants to cross to Tigerland, and want to retain their second round pick for a possible trade. The Crows are hoping to get either Richmond's first pick or the end of first round compensation choice the Tigers received for Richard Tambling (the compensation pick was originally for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast and was on-traded).

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/pies-give-up-first-draft-pick-for-clarke-20111006-1lbr3.html#ixzz1a1HxjDiw


Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 07, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Do not swap pick 14 and do not swap the comp pick we received for Tambling or we have lost......afcukigngain
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 07, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Do not swap pick 14 and do not swap the comp pick we received for Tambling or we have lost......aeffigngain

or our 2nd rounder.

3rd rounder or PSD. Dont be a moron CC
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on October 07, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 07, 2011, 09:18:12 AM
I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.

For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.

The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.

Two thumbs up  :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 07, 2011, 12:51:23 PM
A guy on facebook calling himself Afl Trade Week & Rumours, wrote this about an hour ago.

Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.

Afl Trade Week & Rumours News going around that Ivan maric will definitely end up at Richmond.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 07, 2011, 01:04:42 PM
I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.

For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.

The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.

Two thumbs up  :thumbsup :thumbsup

please explain. you lost me there with this Morris 14 thing

what do you mean with this mate

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 07, 2011, 01:19:52 PM
The media don't have a clue. They are still linking every 3rd rate ruckmen to us.....


Can Richmond find a ruckman?

The Tigers are in desperate need of a frontline ruckman and there should be plenty on offer at the trade table. Hamish McIntosh seems surplus to needs at North Melbourne with Todd Goldstein and Drew Petrie playing so well in 2011, though the Tigers may be scared away because of McIntosh's injury history. Daniel Connors, who is rumoured to have requested a trade from Punt Road, could provide some much-needed attacking run out of the Roos' backline in return.

Alternatively, Adelaide's Ivan Maric is looking for a move after receiving limited opportunities since Sam Jacobs assumed the no.1 ruck duties. In return, the Tigers could look at offloading Ben Nason, who has struggled to break into the side this year and is looking to return home to South Australia.

Richmond might also seek to trade for either Tom Bellchambers (Essendon) or Shaun Hampson (Carlton). Both are third in line in the ruck queue at their respective clubs - clubs which could still use a plug-in defender like Luke McGuane or Will Thursfield and a second- or third-round draft pick.

http://www.bigpondsport.com/who-is-carltons-next-key-forward/tabid/91/newsid/78341/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 07, 2011, 01:25:00 PM
The media don't have a clue. They are still linking every 3rd rate ruckmen to us.....



Bellchambers and Hampson just re-signed didn't they? Isn't there a rule that stops teams from trading someone that have just signed a new contract?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 07, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
nup. can be traded if the player agrees
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger4life on October 07, 2011, 01:39:23 PM
I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.

For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.

The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.

Two thumbs up  :thumbsup :thumbsup

please explain. you lost me there with this Morris 14 thing

what do you mean with this mate

Richmond - Lose Pick 14
Richmond - Gain Pick 15 + Morris

GWS - Gain a Pick Upgrade from 15 to 14.

By gaining Morris through GWS pre-listing him it means Morris does not have to nominate for FS and Richmond don't have to commit a Draft Pick to him, so lets say for instance PA bid there second round pick (Pick 33?) we must commit our Second Round Pick to Morris.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 07, 2011, 01:43:23 PM
Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.

There would be some LBL from the LOLz if that came true
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RonnieB on October 07, 2011, 02:02:09 PM
Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.

There would be some LBL from the LOLz if that came true

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 08, 2011, 04:17:29 AM
"Maric will cross to Richmond for a draft selection"

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/adelaide-reaffirms-kurt-tippert-will-be-playing-for-crows-next-season/story-e6frg7mf-1226161609284

No mention of what draft pick that will be.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 08, 2011, 05:26:54 AM
"Maric will cross to Richmond for a draft selection"

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/adelaide-reaffirms-kurt-tippert-will-be-playing-for-crows-next-season/story-e6frg7mf-1226161609284

No mention of what draft pick that will be.

Pick 3rd round....or no deal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Absolut Tigers on October 08, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
watching Adelaide vs Geelong to try and make an assessment on maric as an upgrade to graham

thoughts are as follows: moves a lot better, can get involved in passages of play without turning it over, an excellent kick, not any stronger, better leap, gets to more contests (over and above ruck work), tap work only on par with graham, ottens destroyed him

conclusion: definitely an upgrade, but will still leave us with with one of the weaker ruckmen in the competition. there's a reason Adelaide recruited Jacobs and subsequently made him their number 1 ruckman
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on October 08, 2011, 03:45:32 PM
The media have NFI on the Maric to Richmond deal. And if we trade Nason for Maric the AFC will be burnt to the ground. Time to pack up shop for them  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 04:02:52 AM
Crows ruckman Ivan Maric wants to join Richmond.

Initial talks between the Crows and Tigers have the clubs debating whether the trade should be for draft picks or players.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-to-play-hard-on-jack-gunston/story-fn69a32t-1226162520312


Three team trade: McGuane to Brisbane, Bris 3rd rounder to Adelaide, Maric to Richmond

http://twitter.com/#!/TradeWeekTiger
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 10, 2011, 07:32:27 AM
Its becoming a joke now, haha ok whatever happens happens. let the games begin  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2011, 08:34:19 AM
Its becoming a joke now, haha ok whatever happens happens. let the games begin  ;D

I'm with ya - care factor = 0
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 10, 2011, 09:06:49 AM
McG for Maric? eff that. would rather Luke
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 10, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
McG for Maric? eff that. would rather Luke

Really?
You must really rate Maric!  :lol

I'd be happy with that deal. They are both fringe players at poor clubs, but Maric had stiffer competition in front of him (Jacobs). Magawnicles is a bloody liability with ball in hand.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on October 10, 2011, 10:32:03 AM
I hope it's smoke & mirrors and we get an class ruckman.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 10, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
Crows reject Richmond offer for Ivan Maric
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Seriously...tell em to stuff off, I don't care if they don't take it, like it or lump it, I think we went in too high to be honest.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 10, 2011, 11:57:09 AM
Crows reject Richmond offer for Ivan Maric
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Seriously...tell em to stuff off, I don't care if they don't take it, like it or lump it, I think we went in too high to be honest.

 :lol He aint worth any pick in the top 50. RFC starting to behave like a charity again.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
Quote
The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.

HAHAHA! I hope we get him for free now in the PSD.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2011, 11:58:27 AM
Seriously what are they smoking? Pick 14 for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 10, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
Didn't catch any quotes from either club in that report
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 10, 2011, 12:01:01 PM
IMO they are annoyed with what Craig did with that Tambling trade and are now trying to get one back at us.

Just my opinion but it certainly looks that way

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
We should be just as annoyed with them over the Johnston trade.... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
Longer this deal doesn't get done the better, hope we get him for nothing in the PSD, Crows don't deserve any of our picks.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 12:09:51 PM
Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 10, 2011, 12:11:18 PM
Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.

Griffin is a better ruckman than Maric why we didnt even approach him is really problematic IMHO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 12:12:49 PM
Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.

Griffin is a better ruckman than Maric why we didnt even approach him is really problematic IMHO.

How do you know we didn't?? How do you know we weren't told he would rather deal with Port because he want to get back to SA??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 10, 2011, 12:13:40 PM
Griffin is deadset on moving back to Adelaide. His manager is slightly put off we didn't attempt to raise his contract value.  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2011, 12:14:18 PM
Why would we be interested in a player that seems to request a trade ever season  :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 10, 2011, 12:15:03 PM
Some clubs love flakes
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on October 10, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
Griffen would be a far better option than Maric. Notwithstanding the apparent head back to SA tendency.

It's a worry that we dont seem to make the effort to even enquire about possibilities.

We appear to get a fixed initial idea and stick to it rigidly, even if a better option falls into our lap.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 12:32:10 PM
Griffen would be a far better option than Maric. Notwithstanding the apparent head back to SA tendency.

It's a worry that we dont seem to make the effort to even enquire about possibilities.

We appear to get a fixed initial idea and stick to it rigidly, even if a better option falls into our lap.

FFS.....Just because it's not printed in the media doesn't mean we haven't inquired!!
How do you know we haven't made contact? How do you know we haven't been told "Don't Bother" because he only want's to go back to Adelaide or stay?

I Would be certain our recruiters don't sit there and go " Griffen wants to be traded but I can't be bothered calling his manager to see if he is interested in dealing with us"....... :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on October 10, 2011, 12:36:28 PM
Read back on post 319 TtT.

It's an extrapolation from that post. It would "seem".  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 12:37:56 PM
Read back on post 319 TtT.

It's an extrapolation from that post. It would "seem".  :lol

lol....Well aint I Red faced now :wallywink :wallywink
And to think I have been trying to defend the club.... :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2011, 12:49:32 PM
If you read the interview of Blair Hartley on the clubs website, sounds to me he is well on top of players/clubs preferences and availabilities/openness to trades. If no offer was made it was not made because of the information they gathered.

I don't believe the club is as naive as what some are claiming, they have targeted specific players for a reason. Might have to do with the cost in terms of picks as well. Many reasons behind the scenes as to why we have gone for Maric and not another ruckman, not simply because 'Maric said he wants to come to Richmond, so lets just look at him and him only'.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 10, 2011, 01:24:36 PM
Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.

(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2011, 01:35:07 PM
Just missing a laptop with a YouTube clip of JON going in that picture  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
From twitter:

Adelaide apparently reject Richmond's offer of a 2nd round draft pick for Ivan Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 10, 2011, 01:41:57 PM
apparently
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
RICHMOND and Adelaide are at odds on the value of ruckman Ivan Maric.

The Crows have been offered Richmond's second-round draft pick at No.37 for Maric. They say this falls short of their wishes.

The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
Tell them we'll take him in the PSD!!!!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
RICHMOND and Adelaide are at odds on the value of ruckman Ivan Maric.

The Crows have been offered Richmond's second-round draft pick at No.37 for Maric. They say this falls short of their wishes.

The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Off to the PSD then. If the Club caves into Adelaide demands with either pick 14 or our compo pick then Craig Cameron can go with it. We should have first offered pick 55 so then we can pretend to 'give in' with pick 37.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 10, 2011, 01:59:06 PM
Who's to say we didnt start by offering pick 55, they said pick 14 and then we offered pick 37 to which they rejected?  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
They obviously want our compo pick! That's why they're asking for pick 14! tell them to get knicked Tiges!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
All Richmond has to do is stand firm on pick 37 until 1.55pm Sunday and if Adelaide still say no then tell them we'll see Maric in the PSD. Just because the Crows were stupid last year paying a compo pick for Tambling doesn't mean we have to return the stupidity favour.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
Tims AFL Trade Week Updates
"I'm expecting Adelaide to budge and accept pick 37 plus one of Nason/Connors for Maric later in the week. They won't get pick 14"

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tims-AFL-Trade-Week-Updates/178295015873
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: smasha on October 10, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.

(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)

GOLD.
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jezza on October 10, 2011, 05:19:14 PM
Would rather see Graham and Browne for another year than give up a second rounder for Maric.  Will lose massive amounts of faith in those running the club if we cave in to Adelaide.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 10, 2011, 05:36:26 PM
just give em the first rounder and be done with it.

Get the big croat on board , you know he will go all in.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 10, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on October 10, 2011, 06:00:06 PM
we dont have pick 14 anyway we have pick 15 lol, we lost a spot due to the deal for morris with gws
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on October 10, 2011, 06:26:13 PM
Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.

When you say a player and pick 37 for him it sounds like we are paying overs. But Nason is probably(IMO should) going to be delisted so it doesn't mean anything if his apart of the trade.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
Maric deal hits roadblock
By Luke Holmesby
4:43 PM Mon 10 Oct, 2011



IVAN Maric is no certainty to head to Richmond despite being linked to the club for months.

The Tigers have been in discussions with Adelaide about trading for the experienced ruckman but Crows list manager David Noble said there was no guarantee he would find his way to Punt Road.

"There may be a late player (in negotiations for Maric) but he has made a decision that that is where his best opportunity lies," Noble said on Monday.

"From our side of things, we've got to make sure we get the best deal for our footy club. If that allows those players to get to the clubs of their choice that is fine but if we have to get back to those players to say they need to consider another option well that is what we have to do."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124892/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on October 10, 2011, 07:20:29 PM


When you say a player and pick 37 for him it sounds like we are paying overs. But Nason is probably(IMO should) going to be delisted so it doesn't mean anything if his apart of the trade.
^agreed...if we are giving up 37 plus someone we are not keen on keeping then we don't really lose out...Adel first round request on the other hand is most amusing...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 10, 2011, 07:36:50 PM
Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.

Way too much.  We should play hard hard ball - we hold all the aces.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 10, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
This bloke couldn't get a game this year.

Pass
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 10, 2011, 07:46:27 PM
We should show some balls and go back to the table with a triple digit pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TFL on October 10, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
Tell them to jam it!!

If we are giving a player(Nason or Connors) i know we want them gone anyway but i say give them a 3rd rounder and thats it.

We will land him in the PSD most likely anyway. How many players who have a nominated club dont end up there. We hold the upper hand and if it doesnt come off then stiff, get someone else.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 08:02:34 PM
Crows list manager David Noble said only preliminary negotiations had been conducted: "We don't expect anything to happen until the next 24-48 hours."

And he said the players might have to go elsewhere, if rivals offered better deals.

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/10/high-price-for-golden-o-meara/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 10, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
So they wanna play hardball... pfft
I was watching that geelong, adelaide game to study maric.. does anyone know what other games maric played this year?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 10, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on October 10, 2011, 08:33:30 PM
This bloke couldn't get a game this year.

Pass

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back again on October 10, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2011, 08:38:43 PM
Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup

Edwards is too much. No deal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 08:39:11 PM
I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)

Do you have something against the "Pure waters of Tasmania"  :huh :huh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 10, 2011, 08:40:53 PM
Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup

Edwards is too much. No deal.

If Edwards is too much then Maric is not worth it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 10, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
Some twisted logic taking place in this thread.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: J Buckthorn on October 10, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)

Look man, you just cant rat on Tassie water like it's a throw away line.

And for the record, I resent you username. This website is small enough to accommodate my ego, let alone your upstart plagiarism.

I suggest you modify it, or again bugger the hell off  >:(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 10, 2011, 08:58:07 PM
I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)

Look man, you just cant rat on Tassie water like it's a throw away line.

And for the record, I resent you username. This website is small enough to accommodate my ego, let alone your upstart plagiarism.

I suggest you modify it, or again bugger the hell off  >:(

Great to see ButtThorn's back on the Heavy's again :cheers :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 10, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
 :lol

Theres only enough room for one returned poster.

To the death!   :burgereater
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 10, 2011, 10:11:10 PM
Its a duel to see who is nuttier than squirrel poo.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 10:14:37 PM
Back to the topic...

The Tigers made little progress on the deal to lure Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric but remain confident they will get their man.

Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-lands-south-australian-star-steven-morris-in-deal-with-gws/story-fn69a32t-1226163182624)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2011, 11:33:55 PM
RICHMOND is on track to secure Adelaide's Ivan Maric, but the deal will take some time.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/st-kilda-says-brendon-goddard-nick-dal-santo-and-sam-gilbert-are-off-limits/story-fn69a32t-1226162786942
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 11, 2011, 12:07:56 AM
Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup

Edwards is too much. No deal.

If Edwards is too much then Maric is not worth it.

He's not then.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 11, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
Back to the topic...

The Tigers made little progress on the deal to lure Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric but remain confident they will get their man.

Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-lands-south-australian-star-steven-morris-in-deal-with-gws/story-fn69a32t-1226163182624)

I was just reading through the comments on that article:

Quote
this kid is a gun and should have been drafted 3 years ago under father son. He was suspended this year for a great 70's style hard man bump against North Adelaide, check it out Tigers. He is a 100+ game player for sure. http://video.adelaidenow.com.au/2000283800/Footy-Fix-Round-Eleven Looks like he has a lot of the old man in him.

just what is needed, more mongrel! :D I can't see the video in the link though. Stupid iPhones. 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2011, 02:20:09 AM
Adelaide reportedly has asked for Richmond's first-round draft pick (No. 14) for ruckman Maric.

The Tigers are said to have offered their second-round draft pick (No. 37).

And the end result may be in the middle ground with Adelaide reclaiming the still unused compensation draft pick the Crows gained for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast last year and quickly traded to the Tigers for Richard Tambling.

But with ruckmen the prize of this trade period, Adelaide has, not surprisingly, fielded rival offers for Maric, as it also has done for Gunston.

"Ivan - and Jack - have made decisions on where they want to play but we will do the best deal for our football club," said Noble.

"If that is the club the player has chosen, fine. But there are other clubs interested in both of them, not just Hawthorn and Richmond.

"And we are clear on what we want from this trade period. It will be deals that serve the club for the next two years - not the seven days of the trade period."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-go-in-for-the-kill-for-crows-forward-kurt-tippett/story-e6frecoc-1226163446602
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2011, 03:08:01 AM
Adelaide reportedly has asked for Richmond's first-round draft pick (No. 14) for ruckman Maric.

The Tigers are said to have offered their second-round draft pick (No. 37).

And the end result may be in the middle ground with Adelaide reclaiming the still unused compensation draft pick the Crows gained for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast last year and quickly traded to the Tigers for Richard Tambling.
Only an Adelaide paper would think our compo pick is "middle ground"  ::)

Pick 37 is the offer. Up to the Crows to accept it. If they think they can convince Maric to go elsewhere for a higher pick then bye-bye as it's no skin off our nose. Otherwise we'll see at the PSD and Adelaide will end up with sweet stuff all just as Essendon did last year trying to pull a similar stunt over Houli.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on October 11, 2011, 03:39:56 AM
Broc McCauley has been delisted by the lions ahe looked good for the games he played in the ruck.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 11, 2011, 09:36:52 AM
Bit of research on Maric, his stats are solid in 2009 and 2010 when he was playing majority as #1 ruck, big drop off in form/opportunity this season.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/I/Ivan_Maric.html
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 11, 2011, 10:12:43 AM
Out of the Victorian clubs that would show any interest we have the best second round pick. They won't get a better offer for him to return home as he requested than our pick 37. Adelaide can eat a weener.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 11, 2011, 10:58:42 AM
Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.

(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)

but helmut......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 11, 2011, 11:01:26 AM
Hey yarr dirty inbred hands off the tambling pick.  :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2011, 11:52:16 AM
Port apparently are happy to let Maric get to the Tigers.

Peter Rhode says Freo ruckman Jonathon Griffin is their number 1 target. Rhode says the club is very keen on getting a mature ruckman to support Matthew Lobbe.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on October 11, 2011, 11:57:54 AM
Maybe we should go for Griffin then  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 11, 2011, 12:03:11 PM
Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 11, 2011, 12:07:37 PM
Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.
Preference is for him to slip through to the PSD.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 11, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.

(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)

Still one clown there.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 11, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.

(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)

Still one clown there.

Yep one clown
One jester
one sidekick
and a dried piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2011, 10:37:33 PM
TradeWeekTiger twitter:

"@ClarkyHeraldSun Day 3: Maric to Richmond! should be done by noon"


No mention of what the trade will be though.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 11, 2011, 10:39:39 PM
He been reading big footy again?  Geez Deep throat even has the journos strung along lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2011, 02:54:07 AM
Adelaide did little work on trading ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond for a draft pick on Tuesday.

"We've had a couple of other things going on," Noble said.

"We have not spoken to Richmond today."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/gunston-deal-almost-done/story-e6frecj3-1226164024007

It mentions further up in the article that Adelaide could stockpile compo picks gained in trades with ours being one of them. So obviously the Crows are still chasing our compo pick for Maric  ::).
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 03:46:02 AM
We should not speak to them until after Thursday and stuff up any chance they are hoping of getting a pick in the GWS mini-draft. Pick 37 is easily a fair return. Why should we pay more for Maric than the Crows did for Jacobs last year in a similar compromised draft (and who they've rated better than Maric)!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 12, 2011, 07:34:56 AM
Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.

Agree, watched the Crows- cats game and crows- port games on bigpond he is a decent ruckman
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 12, 2011, 10:21:42 AM
just heard on trade radio or crock ....lol ...radio that we just offered those mulleted thong wearing inbreds the compo pick back and it wasn't enough for Maric.  It that is true, i'm bout to arc up the blow torch and head down to punt road... IF we are going to be held to stuffing ransom, lets go for something first class.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 12, 2011, 10:25:43 AM
I've been saying all along, stuff them, tell Maric to nominate for the PSD, and we can pick him up for nix.

Adelaide are no longer being reasonable to deal with, lets just make him walk and keep all our picks.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 12, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
Maric's manager just said that Adelaide have asked for the compo pick but we are not prepared to offer it.

Once again the media eff up the story.

Two for flinching Owl  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 12, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
haha, im not flinching.  Just saying its blow torch and pliers time if they give that pick up.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 12:33:28 PM
If Barrett says it, it is usually wrong :yep  :wallywink.

Our recruiting dept. should resign on masse if we were stupid enough to cough up our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year) for Maric.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: crannyvegas on October 12, 2011, 12:57:28 PM
Am I right in thinking that the compo pick is probably on par with our first round this year? given the disparity in quality between this draft and the next? we have to keep hold of that compo! so important we keep adding youth even as we move up the ladder!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 12, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
"Lenton also manages Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, who is seeking a trade to Richmond.

He confirmed that the Crows wanted to regain the compensation pick they traded for Richard Tambling last year.

But the Tigers have baulked at that request, instead offering their pick 37 in this year's NAB AFL Draft.

Despite the disagreement, Lenton was confident that the two clubs would come to terms.

"We're hopeful that Adelaide might look at Richmond's offer and think, 'we can use that in another trade,'" he said.

"If that's the case, hopefully Ivan can go through sooner rather than later.""

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124990/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 01:08:56 PM
Am I right in thinking that the compo pick is probably on par with our first round this year? given the disparity in quality between this draft and the next? we have to keep hold of that compo! so important we keep adding youth even as we move up the ladder!
Spot on cranny. Actually when you take into account the fact that 17 year olds born b/w Jan-April are excluded in this draft (~1/3 of a normal draft's draftees), GWS having 9 of the first 14 picks and GWS last year being able to pre-list youngsters, I would argue the compo pick (approx. pick 20 in a normal draft) is probably a 'higher' pick than pick 15 in this compromised draft.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 12, 2011, 01:27:59 PM
our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year).

There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 01:32:36 PM
"Lenton also manages Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, who is seeking a trade to Richmond.

He confirmed that the Crows wanted to regain the compensation pick they traded for Richard Tambling last year.

But the Tigers have baulked at that request, instead offering their pick 37 in this year's NAB AFL Draft.

Despite the disagreement, Lenton was confident that the two clubs would come to terms.

"We're hopeful that Adelaide might look at Richmond's offer and think, 'we can use that in another trade,'" he said.

"If that's the case, hopefully Ivan can go through sooner rather than later.""

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124990/default.aspx
The manager is clearly on our side. We just need to sit tight and let the pressure build up on Adelaide that they may get nothing in return for Maric if they don't accept pick 37.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 12, 2011, 01:35:34 PM
In a perfect world where every club wins 4.5 games or more and no one else uses their pick, it would be Pick 19. So agreed, will probably fall around Pick 22-25 with other clubs nominating to use theirs in the stronger draft.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 12, 2011, 01:37:12 PM
our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year).

There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
Just re-read the posts, I think they are saying in terms of strength of draft, our compo pick being used and giving us pick 22-25 would be the equivalent to a top 15 pick this draft. Plausible.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 01:37:34 PM
There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
The compo pick is an end of first round pick. With a normal draft next year and 18 teams and taking into account priority picks next year (GWS probably won't win 4 games) then the compo pick will be around picks 20-24.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 12, 2011, 01:41:20 PM
The compo pick is an end of first round pick.

I know.

Add in clubs using their mid-first round compo picks, and the end of first round compo picks that are before ours...

No chance in hell that compo is a top 20.

Top 30.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 01:57:35 PM
The compo pick is an end of first round pick.

I know.

Add in clubs using their mid-first round compo picks, and the end of first round compo picks that are before ours...

No chance in hell that compo is a top 20.

Top 30.
All depends when we and they use the compo picks. They can be used anytime up to 2015. We may wait until 2013 to use it. Craig Cameron said at the fan forum two months ago we haven't decided yet as the U16s may show the 2013 draft might show it'll be stronger than 2012. Also only Geelong and Melbourne have first round and mid-first round compo picks. So our compo will be a pick around 20-25 as JVT said. In any case the whole point is it's valuable and should in no circumstances be used on a fringe 3rd-in-line 25 y.o. ruckman like Maric who we could pick up in the PSD if need be.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 12, 2011, 02:18:27 PM
So you agree it wont be a top 20 pick next year.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 12, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
This whole convoluted load of bs compo pick is ...So, what picks are the ones you get to use, first round immediately after the normal first round pick of the originating team (as in the team first generated the compo pick)? 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 12, 2011, 07:15:51 PM
The latest (and interesting statements at the end of the article):-

Tigers hold firm on Maric offer

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567

.....Cameron confirmed interest from "a couple" of clubs about defender Luke McGuane and said a deal was likely towards the end of the trade period.

With the likely arrival of Maric, the club has also been asked about the availability of ruckman Angus Graham.

But Cameron said Graham was contracted and a required player, along with big man Andrew Browne, who has been offered a new contract.

Daniel Connors' name has been floated in trade talks but has attracted little interest.

Cameron said Daniel Jackson was close to signing a new contract and would definitely be at Punt Rd next season.

- Al Paton
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 12, 2011, 07:50:56 PM
that was from his interview on trade week radio
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
Pleasing we aren't going to cave into Adelaide's laughable demands for our first rounder or compo pick. Pick 37 and maybe Nason or a late pick (4th rounder) I'm guessing may be our maximum offer take it or leave it. That would be on par with the trade Adelaide did to get Jacobs.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 12, 2011, 11:00:10 PM
It looks like Port and Sydney are looking to swap seaby 4 armstrong;
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SYDNEY Swans coach John Longmire has confirmed that Port Adelaide has shown interest in ruckman Mark Seaby

Speaking to afl.com.au's Trade Week Radio, Longmire also confirmed that the club's recruiting manager, Kinnear Beatson, had commenced discussions with Adelaide to secure 22 year-old Tony Armstrong.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125017/default.aspx

If this deal goes ahead it definately gives us the fall back of the PSD if the crows continuue to be unreasonable
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 12, 2011, 11:07:09 PM
Pleasing we aren't going to cave into Adelaide's laughable demands for our first rounder or compo pick. Pick 37 and maybe Nason or a late pick (4th rounder) I'm guessing may be our maximum offer take it or leave it. That would be on par with the trade Adelaide did to get Jacobs.

i honestly feel we are paying overs giving up our 2nd round pick mt - not for bloody Ivvvarn!

hes not anywhere near jacobs level, who is younger and has more upside yet went for pick 33? - we're kidding ourselves arent we?  :huh :huh

very very dissapointed with how this whole matter is being conducted - we've been mouthing off publicly abt our desperate need for a ruck for mnths - adelaide playing hardball is a consequence of that. negotiation not a strong point at punt rd
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 12, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
It looks like Port and Sydney are looking to swap seaby 4 armstrong;

Adelaide will be pished if Port trade one of their players  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 12, 2011, 11:19:24 PM
derr, should have read that properly. I think that means it's time for bed.

 :sleep
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2011, 01:52:58 AM
The Crows, in contrast, have lost several players and are keen to trade for players rather than draft picks. That has meant Richmond and Sydney have had to review their offers for Ivan Maric and Tony Armstrong respectively.

The likelihood is that the Tigers will talk today about players that might be exchanged for Maric. To date, they have offered only their second pick (No. 37).

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-gun-for-saint-tommy-20111012-1ll88.html#ixzz1aZz0gr75
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 13, 2011, 03:11:38 AM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: taztiger4 on October 13, 2011, 07:43:45 AM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on October 13, 2011, 08:10:23 AM
If we asked him to go into ND with a $$ on his head, 1mn spread over 4 years, front loaded with 500k next year, no-one else would touch him until 37, guaranteed
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 13, 2011, 08:56:49 AM
Heres the players taken at pick 37 over the last 10 or so years and there's been some good picks. This years draft is admittedly weaker (apparently) but it still serves as an ok starting point for what we could be possibly giving up to get Maric.

2010 - 37 Geelong Cats – George Horlin-Smith  :huh
2009- 37 North Melbourne - Jamie Macmillan  :huh
2008 - 37 Fremantle -- Zachary Clarke  :thumbsup
2007 - 37 North Melbourne - Scott Thompson  :banghead sort of
2006 - 37 north Melbourne - Todd Goldstein  :thumbsup
2005 - 37 Collingwood - John Anthony  :banghead
2004 - 37 West Coast - Mark Lecras  :thumbsup
2003  - 37 Richmond - Tom Roach  :banghead :banghead :banghead
2002 - 37 West Coast - Brent Staker  :thumbsup(sort of)
2001 - 37 St.kilda - Leigh Montagna  :thumbsup
2000 - 37 Collingwood - Guy Richards  :banghead

I'd rate the pick as 1 in 2 chance of a quality player. In this compromised draft, it may be more like a 1 in 3 chance.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 13, 2011, 09:11:50 AM
Hers the 10 or so picks around pick 37 in the 2005, which is probably one of the weakest drafts in recent times. There's probably only 2 or maybe 3 ok players in this lot, so it provides a good comparison too.

2   32   Bernie Vince   Woodville-West Torrens   Adelaide
2   33   Samuel Gilbert   Southport   St Kilda
2   34   Matthew Spangher   Eastern Ranges   West Coast
2   35   Stephen Owen   North Ballarat Rebels   Geelong
3   36   Jake Edwards   Western Jets   Carlton
3   37   John Anthony   Northern Knights   Collingwood
3      38   Travis Tuck   Dandenong Stingrays   Hawthorn
3    39   Jay Neagle   Gippsland Power   Essendon
3   40   Travis Casserly   Swan Districts   Richmond
3   41   Rhan Hooper   Mt Gravatt   Brisbane Lions
3   42   Robert Warnock   Sandringham Dragons   Fremantle

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 13, 2011, 09:17:49 AM
Also renowned as a weak draft was 2003. Adcock is probably the pick of the crop, after that is probably Dawson and Blake (hmmmm......) but the rest were rubbish.

2      32   Brayden Shaw   Northern Knights   Collingwood
2   33   Jed Adcock   North Ballarat Rebels   Brisbane Lions
3   34   Luke Peel   Sandringham Dragons   Port Adelaide
3   35   Brent Hall   South Fremantle Football Club   Collingwood
3      36   Chris Johnson   East Fremantle Football Club   Melbourne
3      37   Thomas Roach   Oakleigh Chargers   Richmond
3      38   Mark Blake   Geelong Falcons   Geelong
3   39   Robert Forster-Knight   Essendon   Port Adelaide
3   40   Eddie Sansbury   Central District Bulldogs   Kangaroos
3   41   Zac Dawson   Calder Cannons   Hawthorn
3   42   Matthew Spencer   Swan Districts Football Club   Geelong

So on all of this data alone, I reckon we are probably a 20 to 25% chance of landing a decent player in this years draft with pick 37. So trading for the serviceable Maric is probably a fair deal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 13, 2011, 09:29:54 AM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
Adelaide and other clubs know they have a week and are trying to work out 'super-trades' and deals for the 17yo which needs to be finalised today. All other trades on the back burner.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 13, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
The likelihood is that the Tigers will talk today about players that might be exchanged for Maric.

Music to my ears
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2011, 10:23:27 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 13, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh

Thank you

more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.

One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 13, 2011, 10:35:09 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh
Source? If true, I can't fault the work of RFC so far this trade week! Sounds like a win-win trade, we get rid of a selfish footballer in Connors and keep our 2nd round pick.  :rollin :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2011, 10:51:28 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh
Source? If true, I can't fault the work of RFC so far this trade week! Sounds like a win-win trade, we get rid of a selfish footballer in Connors and keep our 2nd round pick.  :rollin :gotigers

Source is a good one, watch this space.........
There is another player of Adelaide's Radar but we won't let him go, nothing set in stone yet but looks like the Conners move will be the one ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on October 13, 2011, 10:51:50 AM
Good if true but I think Connors alone is enough to get Maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 13, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh
Careful, you're putting Jackstar out of a job as number one snoop lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh
Careful, you're putting Jackstar out of a job as number one snoop lol

Yes, I have really put my butt on the line with this one :juggle :juggle :juggle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 13, 2011, 11:01:24 AM
Good if true but I think Connors alone is enough to get Maric
If we get rid of Connors, who cares if we throw in a rubbish pick too. Would be a 4th rounder or later.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 13, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh

Thank you

more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.

One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow

Well said
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 13, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
Going to copy and paste a SMS from my old man. Not sure where he heard it, possibly whatever station he has on at work so unsure of source. I know nothing else but wondering if anyone has heard anything else to possibly elaborate on this.

Quote
Adelaide want pick 37 for Maric, tigs won't budge, they@are now negotiating with nth
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 13, 2011, 12:58:11 PM
Could be confused with Addam Maric who is tipped to goto Nth
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 13, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest

5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.

You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.

Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.

Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on October 13, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest

5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.

You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.

Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.

Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.

trade week ends on Monday.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 13, 2011, 03:01:46 PM
Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first  :shh

Thank you

more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.

One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow

Well said

Hear hear boys. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 13, 2011, 03:05:42 PM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest

5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.

You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.

Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.

Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
Your sounding like a chicken little mate, we will be fine.  :police:
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 13, 2011, 03:06:08 PM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest

5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.

You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.

Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.

Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.

trade week ends on Monday.

 :thumbsup

Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on October 13, 2011, 03:14:10 PM

trade week ends on Monday.

 :thumbsup

Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??

Monday 2pm (I think)

 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: taztiger4 on October 13, 2011, 03:27:58 PM
stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream

all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest

5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.

You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.

Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.

Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
grow up, you would be the only person who supposedly follows footy that doesnt know trade week ends MONDAY 17TH OCTOBER
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 13, 2011, 03:43:58 PM

trade week ends on Monday.

 :thumbsup

Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??

Monday 2pm (I think)

 :cheers

Yep Monday 2pm is the deadline. Expect silly season to start at about 12pm on Monday.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on October 13, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
PSD f em
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 13, 2011, 05:41:21 PM
yep stop wasting our time and being nice, adelaide r playing funny buggers and have sized us up as wood ducks(our own fault) fancy showing so much backbone about an unwanted hack ruckman who played 5 games this season  - cease initiating dialogue, shut up shop and tell em no longer interested. Maric is a dud and no one will go for him in the psd so he's all ours.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 13, 2011, 06:06:24 PM

Teams AFL windows are very small these days

I'm sure that's how Brisbane, Sydney, Geelong, Hawthorn, St Kilda all perceive it WAT.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 13, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
yep stop wasting our time and being nice, adelaide r playing funny buggers and have sized us up as wood ducks(our own fault) fancy showing so much backbone about an unwanted hack ruckman who played 5 games this season  - cease initiating dialogue, shut up shop and tell em no longer interested. Maric is a dud and no one will go for him in the psd so he's all ours.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 13, 2011, 06:08:56 PM

trade week ends on Monday.

 :thumbsup

Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??

Monday 2pm (I think)

 :cheers

Thanks mate!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 13, 2011, 07:24:09 PM
Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
Based on what Craig Cameron said tonight our offer now is Connors for Maric as far as player-swapping. So adding your info Tas, I'm guessing we'll now accept Connors + 3rd rounder (55). I'd be satisfied with that as we keep our first two picks and hopefully replace the 3rd rounder trading out McGuane. We'll find out about Maric sometime tomorrow anyway.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2011, 07:37:16 PM
Yes it will be interesting..... As I said, Adelaide have thrown another name around (No sure who) but we have said no way! ;D I was also told there was no way we were offering our second round pick and you would have thought if we had Adelaide would have been all over it?? But then Cameron said we did so there you go......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on October 13, 2011, 07:37:23 PM
stuff adelaide, ND it is, front load it 900k first year 50 k ea of thext 3 ...we'll pick him with last selection :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 13, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
LMAO @ offering a 2nd round pick for a bloke that Beefcake would tear to pieces.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on October 13, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
Based on what Craig Cameron said tonight our offer now is Connors for Maric as far as player-swapping. So adding your info Tas, I'm guessing we'll now accept Connors + 3rd rounder (55). I'd be satisfied with that as we keep our first two picks and hopefully replace the 3rd rounder trading out McGuane. We'll find out about Maric sometime tomorrow anyway.

^ would also be satisfied with that sort of deal...we do hold upper hand with PSD option and Adel have got so many people wanting out they are probably having a hard time keeping up with who's going where :)

...get this done and move onto other needs/wants/deficiencies or tell Adel to pee off....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
Tigers close to Maric deal
By AAP .
13 October 2011 07:37PM EST


RICHMOND are hopeful of finalising an AFL trade to land Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric on Friday.

The Tigers have long been eying the 200cm, 25-year-old, with the Crows keen to help Maric reach his preferred new club if they can strike the right deal.

Richmond's initial offer of their second round national draft pick, No.37 overall, has not satisfied Adelaide.

But Tigers general manager of football Craig Cameron said the Crows were open to a swap of players instead.

"They would consider a player, but we've asked them to tell us, if they do, who that player would be, basically," Cameron told Melbourne's 3AW radio on Thursday night.

"They know the players we've spoken about during trade week, but we've asked them to go away and come back and tell us exactly what they want."

Cameron said negotiations had been held up until Thursday by the Crows' involvement in several other discussions, particularly their desire to secure a pick in Monday's mini-draft.

But the Crows achieved that on Thursday, gaining the right to draft promising 17-year-old Brad Crouch.

"Adelaide's had a fair bit on their plate this week with all sorts of deals that they've been trying to get involved in and finally have got involved in," Cameron said.

"So I think we'll find in the next 24 hours hopefully we'll get a deal done or we'll be much closer."

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/13/tigers-close-to-maric-deal/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2011, 10:13:15 PM
http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_david-noble-brown-crouch-deal_103224

Adelaide's Noble said that he expected the Maric trade to be completed before the weekend...... [which presumably means tomorrow (Friday)].

He also mentions about wanting SA boys to come home.....  [ Nason, Edwards...? ]
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on October 13, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
personally Id prefer to lose connors or nason ahead of edwards...betchya edwards is the one they want  ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 13, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
That makes sense.
when i was checking out maric i read things that indicated Adelaide were going to look more at home grown kids because the go home factor was stating to hurt them. They are real dirty on gunston.

It's just payback from when they started up anyway.

Nason's not worth a shovel full of poo so it could be edwards that gets the deal done?

Christmas could come early for some. :santa



Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on October 13, 2011, 10:46:44 PM
edwards would get a game ea week, no worries about that...tbh Id say stuff you adelaide and put the $ on his head and go into draft, no one else will touch a 3 game 25yo player with a loaded contract
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 13, 2011, 10:51:36 PM
edwards ain't untouchable
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 13, 2011, 10:57:58 PM
edwards would get a game ea week, no worries about that...tbh Id say stuff you adelaide and put the $ on his head and go into draft, no one else will touch a 3 game 25yo player with a loaded contract
edwards ain't untouchable

That's b/c of the state of our list and when people perceive Edwards as being better than what he really is and thus being one of our better players.

Edwards is not untouchable and in a better side he may go under the radar and be handy but in our side he is one of many runts and thus many want him gone due to the glut of small men and of course his inconsistency.

I would call it fair game Maric for Edwards and we'll chuck in Connors for a second round swap of picks.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 13, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
take out connors and i would not be surprised to see that happen
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on October 13, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
They can have Edwards, give us a 2nd rounder and Maric and its a done deal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on October 13, 2011, 11:18:36 PM
They can have Edwards, give us a 2nd rounder and Maric and its a done deal.

I would try talking them into taken Edwards and even just an upgrade from our 3rd for there 2nd.
I'd be happy with that.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 13, 2011, 11:25:27 PM
to me the only killer would be if Edwards doesnt want to go. He is still contracted?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 12:07:44 AM
Very similar to the Collins-Grigg trade last year.

Adelaide will put forward some names, Edwards, Grimes, Connors

They'll take Connors when we tell them the other two are not on the table, just like Carlton did with Collo

 :pray
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 12:13:58 AM
OH PLEASE let it be Edwards, PLEASE... :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 12:25:22 AM
keep praying

Sure Edwards turns the ball over as much as Connors but he doesn't get injured, he arrives at pre-season training in good nick, works hard, doesn't get punched out whilst drunk and doesn't smash hotel toilet bowls with his face

Which is why he'll be on the top of Adelaide's list and why we wont let him go over a bloke like Connors
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 12:34:05 AM
keep praying

Sure Edwards turns the ball over as much as Connors but he doesn't get injured, he arrives at pre-season training in good nick, works hard, doesn't get punched out whilst drunk and doesn't smash hotel toilet bowls with his face

Which is why he'll be on the top of Adelaide's list and why we wont let him go over a bloke like Connors

Mate, they can have them both, I couldnt care less!!!!! But Edwards...... :lol, I would love to see him go!!!!!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 12:47:04 AM
Funny isn't it? Adelaide, one of the big aggressive players and winners this trade period, after a bloke most Richmond supporters think is a dud...

But then they did also trade for Tambo

Matt Rendell is one weird cat
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 01:13:13 AM
Funny isn't it? Adelaide, one of the big aggressive players and winners this trade period, after a bloke most Richmond supporters think is a dud...

But then they did also trade for Tambo

Matt Rendell is one weird cat

Yeah man, they are out there...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 14, 2011, 01:37:56 AM
wtf are we gonna do with Maric.. Hes poo and hes too old. will prob retire at 29.  :banghead waste of time.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 02:15:11 AM
Richmond and Adelaide are close to a deal on Ivan Maric, with the Tigers prepared to sweeten their offer of pick 37 with a player for the Crows.

The Tigers are adamant they can get him through the pre-season draft, but if Adelaide was keen on one of Dan Connors or Luke McGuane then Richmond would agree to a pick-player combination.

The clubs met yesterday with Adelaide leaning towards McGuane to seal the deal.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-big-man-mitch-clark-in-line-for-3m-payday/story-fn69a32t-1226166306148
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on October 14, 2011, 06:57:29 AM
Very Interesting. I know I am dreaming but it would be much better if we just swapped Connors and McGuane for Maric and didn't lose the draft pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 14, 2011, 07:06:42 AM
This is just effing silly, do I have to remind the effing club because of adelaide we dont have Jake King in round 1...... effin dogs
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 14, 2011, 08:06:52 AM
All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman.  ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 08:21:52 AM
it's a conspiracy theory to keep the miserable bastards miserable
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman.  ::)

its funny isnt it

I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth

Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies

No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish

Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.

The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 08:39:21 AM
i rest my case!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 08:43:36 AM
According to emma quayle , St kilda's tom lynch is part of the equation.

Quote
In other talks, Richmond was closer to securing Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, with the Crows to receive former first-round draft pick Tom Lynch from St Kilda and the Saints to take the Tigers' pick 37.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deal-or-no-deal-20111013-1ln8s.html#ixzz1afQQTowE
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 14, 2011, 08:43:51 AM
i rest my case!

These are the miserable bastards that buy memberships year in year and keep the club alive. They also just contributed $3 million over the past 9 or 10 months to help the club improve. Those supporters have every right.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
i rest my case!

why?

im just saying how it is. We are running around like headless chickens for a ruckman no one except us rates, yet im sure if we did our research we could find a similar type in the VFL.

I see the Pies are upgrading a 208cms ruckman they find through the NSW scholarship. Cost to the Pies=ZERO

yet we run around for a Maric.

give me a spell

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 08:52:11 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on October 14, 2011, 08:52:54 AM
i rest my case!

why?

im just saying how it is. We are running around like headless chickens for a ruckman no one except us rates, yet im sure if we did our research we could find a similar type in the VFL.

I see the Pies are upgrading a 208cms ruckman they find through the NSW scholarship. Cost to the Pies=ZERO

yet we run around for a Maric.

give me a spell

Dan its the same every year mate. Every year they pull out the same lines to defend the club- sad thing is we need a miracle to win a flag in the next 5 years. Anyway let the apologists continue there blind support and faith, personally I think its very sad how the RFC treat the supporters who stuck by them for decades.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 08:59:35 AM
Will laugh so hard when Maric is tearing it up for us  :clapping Everyone commenting on his abilities based on his stats are in for a shock, he can play and will be super in comparison to the other 2 chums we have been letting wear our jumper.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 09:01:45 AM
so agree with me then flags, they make these decisions just to annoy the whining section of the supporter base?

funny poo.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 09:03:28 AM
All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman.  ::)

its funny isnt it

I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth

Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies

No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish

Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.

The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage

lol.......Mate it's 10 times easier when the player nominates you as there preferred club as all of the above players have done. And why have they nominated Hawthorne? Because there premiership window is open and has been for a couple of seasons! You guy's done get it, NO BODY WANTS TO COME TO US!!!! and thats because we still have 2 to 5 years of rebuilding!
I'm sure if Dangerfield came out today and said he wants a trade to Richmond then we will get it done, but that aint going to happen.
Until then we just have to do our best upgrading picks and players where we can.
If and when we start making finals consistently, you watch the players lining up wanting to come to us, and with a bit of luck most of the will be high round Gold Coast and GWS players wanting to return home ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2011, 09:05:31 AM
Done deal. Three way trade. Involves St. Kilda, Adelaide and Richmond.

Lynch to Adelaide
2nd rounder #37 to St Kilda
Maric to Richmond

I was hoping the Saints might have taken a player.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 09:05:42 AM
LMAO at the club holding a gun to 10 Flogs head, demanding his membership and FTF money :lol Mate, get over it, move on......If you can't handle the roller coaster get the Eff off :wallywink :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 09:06:50 AM
c'mon two headed tiger, you don't let a bit sensibility get in the way of a good whine.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 09:18:18 AM
Done deal. Three way trade. Involves St. Kilda, Adelaide and Richmond.

Lynch to Adelaide
2nd rounder #37 to St Kilda
Maric to Richmond

I was hoping the Saints might have taken a player.

Done and dusted.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 09:19:01 AM
Yes  ::) I am happy to now be referred to as Deep Throat-From-Tas ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 09:38:29 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got the us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

X2
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 09:44:01 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on October 14, 2011, 09:45:56 AM
When do the Russian jokes start...........?  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 09:46:06 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Had he not stated Richmond as his club of choice and was purely an out of contract ruck, then there would have been a few clubs circling. Fact is before trade week he stated he wanted to come to Richmond, so other teams looked elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Had he not stated Richmond as his club of choice and was purely an out of contract ruck, then there would have been a few clubs circling. Fact is before trade week he stated he wanted to come to Richmond, so other teams looked elsewhere.

Like Melbourne with M.Clark?  :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 09:48:07 AM


Like Melbourne with M.Clark?  :whistle

Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 09:53:49 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted

Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....

It's a reasonable deal for us
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2011, 09:55:49 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted

the only way that can justify wasting a pick on Maric is if we have our PSD earmarked for another player.

I cant for the life of me understand why we didnt just say FO Adelaide and select him in the PSD. Front load year and next year more room under the salary cap for free agency.

The way they screwed us over the Jake King episode was a joke. We should've told them to FO just for the principal of the matter

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
Slavaaaa! Welcome to Tigerland, Ivan  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
woohoo premiership window is now open
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 10:20:27 AM


Like Melbourne with M.Clark?  :whistle

Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Exactly.  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 10:22:32 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted

Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....

It's a reasonable deal for us
Very reasonable, as I said, wait till we see him play. Will be very very good for us and our midfield.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 10:26:30 AM


Like Melbourne with M.Clark?  :whistle

Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle

Thats not the point, point is just bc a player states he wants to go to a particular club doesnt necessarily mean hes off limits to other clubs, and the fact Melbourne are gunning for him shows clubs will go for a player if they think he fills a need.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).

Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric.  :gotigers :clapping

we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted

Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....

It's a reasonable deal for us
Very reasonable, as I said, wait till we see him play. Will be very very good for us and our midfield.

I've seen him play - the only time he looked any good was against us ;)  prob why we're going for him clubs always remember players playing good games against them

anyway its done, hope im wrong abt him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on October 14, 2011, 11:14:28 AM
Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.

I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on October 14, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
Is this not going to happen officially until Monday now, and will that affect any potential trades we may have in the works?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 14, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.

I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.

Correct

its either a very stupid move by the club or a very smart on.

IMO I think they have someone else they want
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
Someone on another site has said we're looking at getting back a former player. Peterson maybe?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 11:20:02 AM
Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.

I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.

Correct

its either a very stupid move by the club or a very smart on.

IMO I think they have someone else they want
Don't think we will be picking up a former player, we don't have any good ones that have gone and are still able to play the game.

I agree, club must have their eyes on someone in the PSD, but I also think we should be able to trade away a few more players and possibly move a pick up the order and back into the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 11:27:23 AM
this is Richmond. we could pick up a former player even if he's an absolute dud
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on October 14, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Is it a former player from Richmond or elsewhere?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Richmond.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
our first round pick for Tambling, Schulz and Rodan ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on October 14, 2011, 11:45:51 AM
Brad Ottens
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on October 14, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
Richo  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 12:02:32 PM
Raines for McGuane
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
Someone on another site has said we're looking at getting back a former player. Peterson maybe?

Casserley
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 12:13:25 PM
Nah he is banned remember.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 12:30:37 PM
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/CarlPetersonL.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 14, 2011, 12:44:43 PM
All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman.  ::)

its funny isnt it

I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth

Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies

No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish

Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.

The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage

hawthorn are a more attractive prospect than us. Primarily because they are a finals team, with plenty of elite talent. Of course it is going to be easier for them to lure players across.
Cameron has performed admirably in the last couple of trade weeks. Cut him some slack.
The Maric deal is very reasonable. Finally we will have a ruckman with some sought of presence. I think a few might be pleasantly surprised by his output.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: smasha on October 14, 2011, 01:07:48 PM
The Tiger is turning! :clapping
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RonnieB on October 14, 2011, 01:09:08 PM
Will be good back up to Angus.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 01:11:30 PM
Will be good back up to Angus.

Angus is gone you idiot.........Keep up :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 01:17:22 PM
Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser said the threat of Maric walking to us in the PSD forced the Crows to cave in as they would've got zip and stopped them trading for someone else. He claimed it as "Richmond's old trick"  :lol.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 01:21:02 PM
Rucci said the Maric deal isn't officially done yet. Richmond willing to hang off to Monday before doing it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on October 14, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Will wait until deal done before commenting
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 14, 2011, 01:36:25 PM
What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 01:46:20 PM
Deal has finally been officially submitted according to Trade Week Radio. They are just waiting for the specific details of the trade.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Relton Roberts?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 02:11:22 PM
Will be good back up to Angus.

Angus is gone you idiot.........Keep up :lol :lol :lol

C'mon Boony, you'd be a little slow too if you were in your 80s....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 02:17:47 PM
Official: (same as wayne posted earlier)

Richmond: pick 37 -> Maric
Adelaide:  Maric -> Tom Lynch
St Kilda:   Tom Lynch -> pick 37
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: J Buckthorn on October 14, 2011, 02:22:53 PM
I am so happy.

Fantastic deal tigers!  :woohoo :woohoo
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 14, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: J Buckthorn on October 14, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
By by beef jerky. Stuffing dud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on October 14, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)

 :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 02:28:33 PM
Video highlights of Ivan Maric:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)

 :lol

 :lol

 :lol

i noticed all in gus has jumped a clear foot higher than Ivvarrrn
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 14, 2011, 02:34:27 PM
He likes to get a bit of elevation before he slaps.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ekto on October 14, 2011, 02:34:43 PM
Excellent. Another Calder Cannon with PREMIERSHIP experience at Tigerland.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 02:38:10 PM
Video highlights of Ivan Maric:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
Telstra site are  :chuck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 02:45:56 PM
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)

 :lol

 :lol

 :lol

I noticed all in gus has jumped a clear foot higher than Ivvarrrn

Na'h thats just Gus jumping 2 minutes too late as per usual ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2011, 02:53:51 PM
Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.

Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick  :wallywink.

What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good  ;).

or Ivan - the big truck.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 02:56:24 PM
Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.

Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick  :wallywink.

What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good  ;).

or Ivan - the big truck.
Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 14, 2011, 02:59:38 PM
Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.

Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick  :wallywink.

What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good  ;).

or Ivan - the big truck.
Or Timbers as in Belanglo Forest lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Video highlights of Ivan Maric:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
Telstra site are  :chuck

Here we goes people's:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 14, 2011, 03:12:18 PM
Renouf to port just got done for pick 33. We got pwn3d
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Video highlights of Ivan Maric:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx

He was winning hitouts to advantage in those highlights!! It's been a while since i've seen that at Tigerland.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
Renouf to port just got done for pick 33. We got pwn3d

Renouf is no better than Maric. Probably worse IMHO
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
Oxx, bout time we got our Beefcake highlights up and running. We can make our guy look good too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on October 14, 2011, 03:25:50 PM
Moving to a city like Melbourne where its cool to date women who are not your Sisters, he might become a bit of a pants man and we could call him  "Ivan ahumpalot"   :P

I can imagine our recruiters walking into the city of churches and singing the song...."Going to the Chapel and were, Gonna get Maaaric"  :P
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)

EEE-VAANN Flow.....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
Oxx, bout time we got our Beefcake highlights up and running. We can make our guy look good too

Uncle, you've got to know when your beat. Let beefy go, and jump upon the big brudet.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 04:14:07 PM

Here we goes people's:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA

In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 04:16:27 PM
Just wait til he gets here and Lade tells him not to look at the ball at centre bounces  :bow We'll make a ruckman out of this guy yet  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on October 14, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
Very happy with this trade. He has size and skill to make Gus look like...well Gus. The difference between Maric and Gus/Browne is his body work, work around the ground, marking and kicking. So a far bit. With a bit of extra responsibility he may actually develop his game further.

Pick 37 is a great get in this draft where picks after 20 are a lottery at best. Adelaide were prepared to play hardball with us, try and save face and reclaim their comp pick they threw away on Tambling but we stood strong. Over the last couple of years I have been particularly impressed by our recruitment department....and it's not over yet.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2011, 04:40:06 PM
No probs with this trade, we didn't buckle and give up the compo pick or our 1st rounder

What I found the most interesting in the whole thing though was the fact Adelaide wasn't interested in any of the players we have on the table for trade = McGuane, Connors, Thursfield
 ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 14, 2011, 04:54:14 PM

Here we goes people's:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA

In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?
He just doesn't belong here. Can't have that lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 14, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.

Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick  :wallywink.

What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good  ;).

or Ivan - the big truck.
Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
Hopefully he employs that attitude into his playing  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
I'm quite looking forward to seeing a richmond ruckman with a bit of mongrel and passion in him.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 05:19:30 PM

Here we goes people's:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA

In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?

He just doesn't belong here. Can't have that lol

Lol how good does it look for a change folks  ;) . Wait til he starts feeding it down chimp and aston's throats.

Just give him umber  25 now and send offal back to the King Island 3rds  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2011, 05:28:07 PM
Haters are always gonna hate, but I'm happy with this and how RFC went about it. Good work fellas  :cheers

This is just dreaming, but would be awesome if we traded into a second round pick somewhere else (McGuane?). Then it would be like we just got Maric and Morris for free.

Still, stoked  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2011, 05:29:19 PM
Forget about the taps to advantage

A ruckman who actually jumps at the centre bounce .... who would have thought  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 14, 2011, 05:33:19 PM
I hope we arent putting too much pressure on Big I?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 14, 2011, 05:36:04 PM
I hope we arent putting too much pressure on Big I?

Of course we are that's what tiger fans do  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 05:39:53 PM
Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on October 14, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
By from how people are rating this draft pick 37 wouldn't of been a promising for an AFL player so we not paying to much for Ivan.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 05:49:03 PM
 :yep

Picks in the mid 30's have historically been a 50% chance of obtaining a decent player in strong drafts, and a 20% chance in weaker drafts.

Happy we've got him and played the percentages  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 05:54:13 PM
Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206

 :gotigers

 :lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: FNM on October 14, 2011, 05:58:39 PM
Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206

 :gotigers

 :lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
Obviously you're not referring to me lol  :yep
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 06:01:33 PM
LMAO imagine a send off thread for McGuane & Jackson
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2011, 06:03:48 PM
That is a moving thread on the Crows board. Wouldn't be many Tigers that wouldn't the same treatment.

After reading that I think we have made an excellet choice in ruckman. After the shenanigans like crashing Dimmas press conference it sounds like he will fit right in and probably instant best mates with Jack (apparently Ivan was Adelaide's lockeroom prankster). In an environment where he feels comfortable and welcome I'm sure will encourage Ivan to achieve his maximum potential. Love how he is going to add a bit of mongrel too... Kingy is just one man :p. Again, really happy with this.  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on October 14, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
Impressive and tells me a lot more than what I knew about him 'Which was nothing'

LOFMA LMFAO everyday I'm shufflin at Richmond supporters saying they will look after him WTFWRU  :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 06:10:52 PM
:lol @ CUB
Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206

 :gotigers
 



 :lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
Obviously you're not referring to me lol  :yep

actually no FNM.

but could you ever imagine a richmond player leaving and such good will shown on a forum?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 06:21:38 PM
God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.

To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....

Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 06:25:08 PM
God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.

To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....

Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup

surely WAT, there is just a little bit of desire in you to see a ruckman play for us that likes a physical contest?

Just a tiny wee liitle bit of "this could be ok" hidden away deep deeep down.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 06:26:51 PM
What the eff are you saying about Beefcake then? The bloke goes all in. VLC loves a contest too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 06:27:04 PM
Any hoot, I'm with you on the Maric front. This guy will be a cult figure and a great choice  :thumbsup


Edit: removed quoting
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 14, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
What the eff are you saying about Beefcake then? The bloke goes all in. VLC loves a contest too

Give it up uncle.

The offal cake is finito
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 14, 2011, 06:29:22 PM
Give it time, he will be back.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 06:29:58 PM
 :burgereater
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.

To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....

Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup

surely WAT, there is just a little bit of desire in you to see a ruckman play for us that likes a physical contest?

Just a tiny wee liitle bit of "this could be ok" hidden away deep deeep down.

Hey look al, its great, but the two faced people here amaze me, I just hope the poor bugger plays as good as everyone here thinks he can or he will be strung up by these very same people...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 14, 2011, 06:42:42 PM
yes, yes he will  :lol

I hope not, cmon Ivanitor!   :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
thats possibly true WAT.

Most people will want him to do well though :gotigers

Like any new player at the club, i cant wait to see what they offer.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
(http://5minutesforfighting.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/ivan_drago_justice.jpg)


(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)

EEE-VAANN Flow.....
:lol

So Maric's nickname will evolve to Pearl Jam.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 14, 2011, 07:03:12 PM
Nobody is saying he is the 'savior,' WAT. I think people just feel that he is decent value at 37.
Lighten up a bit.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2011, 07:06:13 PM
I think people are saying no one could be worse than Gus at centre-bounces and stoppages so Maric has to be an automatic upgrade lol.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 14, 2011, 07:11:18 PM
So Maric's nickname will evolve to Pearl Jam.

And then to 'Necklace'.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 14, 2011, 07:14:20 PM
(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)

EEE-VAANN Flow.....

There is already a "heeaatthheeenn froooggg bought a road like butter frriieess" parody. Could make a new one, "Eeevaannn caaaaannn tap to Cotchin better than Angus diiiid."
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 14, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
Oh look, does this make you all happy..

Welcome to the club Ivan, I really hope you do well and we look forward to seeing you play in the mighty Y&B...

Translation; Welcome to the club, I really hope you do well because if you don't you will be the whipping boy of the supporters until your confidence is shot to pieces, we can then keep bagging the crap out of you until you are delisted. We look forward to seeing you in the mighty Y&B and if you don't perform we will burn and bury you in it.... :lol

All in good fun... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 14, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on October 14, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.

To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....

Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup

Leaving aside the usual cheerleading I think they've done a pretty good job so far.
Well out from Trade Week we said we were looking for a ruckman and a big backman, remembering that Hardwick wanted a "big fish" comparable to Houli and Grigg.

It depends of course on how players perform but i have a reasonable confidence based on Hartley's work in 2010 that he's got the ruckman for what he thinks he's worth.
He seems to have picked his mark, made a fair approach to the manager a long way out and not overpaid in trade.
I would not be surprised if we were to get someone like Goldsack in trade or PSD (like 2010). If so, then they've been spot on with their word.

The problem of course is we don't seem to have had the same ability to trade OUT some players but again the Tambling trade was a gem so I'll wait till the end of Trade Week.
If we can't trade away players that are not good enough it really is our own fault for recruiting them in the first place.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on October 14, 2011, 07:44:13 PM
...happy with this deal...haven't given up too much in what is recognised as a weak-ish draft...Drago fits the right age for our group & should hopefully be hittin the time when the big guys start to develop (ala Jamaar etc - not saying he'll get as good but fingers crossed we might have our own big Ruski & not a big Lemon Ruski....)

Also agree that BH has done a good job in his time with us...we seem to be getting players that are improving our list and our depth without paying overs and slowly but surely weeding out the rabble that won't take us forward - baring in mind this will take a couple of seasons worth of trades/delists etc...

all-in-all, trade week is done & we've still got PSD/ND to go...so far so good....

and welcome to the Tigz Anna (of Ivan-avich fame...just my two bob on potential nicknames :) )
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on October 14, 2011, 07:58:45 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Drago will break you all!!  :clapping

After Round 1 everyone will be praising the RFC on picking this bloke up, will be a massive pick up because we were lacking a ruckman so bad, our midfield just doubled in efficiency  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 14, 2011, 09:21:48 PM

If and when we start making finals consistently, you watch the players lining up wanting to come to us, and with a bit of luck most of the will be high round Gold Coast and GWS players wanting to return home ;) ;)

More truth and likelihood of that happening than most other predictions and forecasts in this thread.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 14, 2011, 09:44:48 PM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011


Maric assumed the No. 1 ruck mantle with the Crows during 2009 and continued to impress with his development in the 2010 season, playing 21 games and being ranked seventh out of all the ruckmen in the competition for hit-outs to advantage, and also fourth at Adelaide for contested marks. He was a member of Adelaide’s leadership group, and proved his worth as a forward option. This year, however, the arrival of ruckman Sam Jacobs from Carlton, and the impact of the new interchange rules, resulted in Maric spending most of the season at SANFL level.

“We were keen to bolster our ruck stocks with a more experienced big man and believe Ivan really suits our needs,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Craig Cameron.

“He’s been in the system for a few years now and has the attributes we’re looking for in a ruckman. “He is highly competitive, aggressive, has a strong work ethic, and the flexibility to go forward and be a marking target.

“We think Ivan will really grasp this opportunity with us and become a valuable member of our playing group.”

“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”

Ivan Maric fact file

Height:  200cm
Weight:  102kg
DOB:  January 4, 1986
Debut:  2006, round six v Port Adelaide
Games:  77
Goals:  28

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125110/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on October 14, 2011, 09:54:04 PM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011



“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”


Nice touch.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on October 14, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011



“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”


Nice touch.

 :thumbsup

yeah i noticed the same footnote re GWS, Im glad they didnt take our advice and tell adelaide to get stuffed :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 14, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011



“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”


Nice touch.

 :thumbsup

Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently.  From tiger-talk:

"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."


http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)

Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiger101 on October 14, 2011, 10:46:47 PM
Thats the nature of the business Tim. If clubs can't handle it then sign up your players to contracts.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011



“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”


Nice touch.

 :thumbsup

Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently.  From tiger-talk:

"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."


http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)

Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
So the dibber dobbers had another sook did they Tim? How can pick 37 be unders when the Crows picked up Jacobs for a similar pick last year who they rate higher than Maric  ::).

We offered pick 37 on Monday and it was Adelaide ridiculously stating they wanted a first rounder that held up the trade being done for 5 days. If another club thinks it can con us at the trade table then we had every right to play the PSD card to gain some leverage.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 14, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical  :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 15, 2011, 12:05:17 AM
Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical  :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 15, 2011, 12:13:09 AM
Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical  :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?

Apparently! It's still his quad..... He tore it bad and can't get it right, will miss at least the first month of the pre season. BTW my sauce is a family member :wink.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 15, 2011, 04:22:46 AM
From the Herald-Sun's website:

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/10/14/1226166/827584-ivan-maric.jpg)

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 15, 2011, 04:35:28 AM
; going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical  :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?

Apparently! It's still his quad..... He tore it bad and can't get it right, will miss at least the first month of the pre season. BTW my sauce is a family member :wink.

You would have quite a few family members........particularly back home wouldn't you...... ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 15, 2011, 08:33:44 AM
Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011



“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”


Nice touch.

 :thumbsup

Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently.  From tiger-talk:

"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."


http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)

Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
So the dibber dobbers had another sook did they Tim? How can pick 37 be unders when the Crows picked up Jacobs for a similar pick last year who they rate higher than Maric  ::).

We offered pick 37 on Monday and it was Adelaide ridiculously stating they wanted a first rounder that held up the trade being done for 5 days. If another club thinks it can con us at the trade table then we had every right to play the PSD card to gain some leverage.

So it seems the once again the tigers have set what they feel to be a fair and reasonable offer and have steadfastedly stuck to their guns. Willing to look at other options, but still not give away more than they deemed appropriate. same with houli and grigg.  :thumbsup :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on October 15, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Fair call Al, I wasn't a big advocate for Grigg, Houli or Miller but v happy with Houli, Grigg has been alright and Miller has done what the club set out for him to achieve.

I'm not a huge fan of Maric the footballer but hear great things about him as a clubman and his big body will get used unlike beefcake.

The club should be given some credit after last year so let's go Drago!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 15, 2011, 09:18:01 AM

I'm not a huge fan of Maric the footballer but hear great things about him as a clubman and his big body will get used unlike beefcake.

The club should be given some credit after last year so let's go Drago!

Agree with those sentiments Y&B.  Reading the BF thread on Maric gave me a different perspective and even if he is a slight upgrade on Beefcake then we will have done ok.  Never know our luck - he might even thrive!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on October 15, 2011, 10:31:49 AM
from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 15, 2011, 11:23:14 AM
from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok

From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: pmac21 on October 15, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
Dont think anyone really rated Jolly when he went to Sydney, hopefully Ivan comes on like Darren.
Wouldnt that be great...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on October 15, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
would be jolly good....had to be said..sorry
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on October 15, 2011, 02:49:10 PM
Roger that !
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 15, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
10 4 big buddy....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 15, 2011, 04:04:07 PM
Spiffing old chap, damn spiffing!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on October 15, 2011, 04:07:47 PM
from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok



From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it


 :thumbsup all comes down to attitude and balls, gus seems to lack in both
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 15, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok



From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it


 :thumbsup all comes down to attitude and balls, gus seems to lack in both

A footy brain can help too  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 15, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
I see him hopefully being in the Stafford mold.

Not the most athletic, but throws his weight around, cagey, can take a grab, kick a goal, and win a tap to advantage.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 15, 2011, 06:33:36 PM
i find it strange that bloke who was a good basket baller would not not be athletic?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 15, 2011, 06:43:58 PM
yeah me too. crows fans saying he doesn't have much of a leap either.

i guess when nic nat is the new black not many blokes are athletic or have a decent leap anymore LMAO
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 15, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
 they say he is better at boundry throw ins than center ball ups too?

it could be the case.

time will tell and we can make up our own mind.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: J Buckthorn on October 15, 2011, 07:33:40 PM
they say he is better at boundry throw ins than center ball ups too?

it could be the case.

time will tell and we can make up our own mind.

That's what I've heard
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: DCrane on October 16, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
I see him hopefully being in the Stafford mold.

Not the most athletic, but throws his weight around, cagey, can take a grab, kick a goal, and win a tap to advantage.

You can only hope.

I don't have much confidence in the ruck coaching at the club. I hope he has been well trained and is bullet proof from any of our ruck advice such as jumping too early and watching your opponent instead of the ball.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 16, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
Ruck stocks:

1. Maric
2. Derickx
3. Browne
4. Graham.

If you class vickery as a forward only post as back up who is also kpp

would be good to draft a 18 year old ruck as a rookie / late pick assuming graham and to a lesser extent browne don't kick on.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 16, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Yep, a bloke who has had 4 kicks as a Richmond player is ahead of VLC and Beefcake..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 16, 2011, 10:35:02 PM
Yep, a bloke who has had 4 kicks as a Richmond player is ahead of VLC and Beefcake..

Yep, his stats are up there with Clever and Schulz..... ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 16, 2011, 10:36:29 PM
I don't even like Hughes and Schulz finished 5th in our B&F one year, so he can play. Be gone you poo stirrer
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 16, 2011, 10:49:15 PM
I don't even like Hughes and Schulz finished 5th in our B&F one year, so he can play. Be gone you poo stirrer
:lol :lol :lol....I thought Cleve was the better of the two  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 16, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
bugger off man or I reveal your secrets.......snip!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on October 17, 2011, 06:53:41 AM
I hope Maric can take a contested mark. I don't mind if he is the mould of Stafford. He just needs to have a presence at ball ups.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 17, 2011, 12:34:53 PM
I hope Maric can take a contested mark. I don't mind if he is the mould of Stafford. He just needs to have a presence at ball ups.
If he can it will at least be an improvement on Gus.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 17, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
Apart from Maric's playing ability what other factors were behind us trading him?
   
Ivan is an individual with strong character, and was a member of the 7 man leadership group in Adelaide. He really impresses us with his approach to the game, particularly in a physical manner on the field. Also with his leadership off the field and his presence around the club we feel he is really going to add to the group. Hopefully he can make our boys walk taller in 2012.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/blair%20hartley%20web%20chat/tabid/16923/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 18, 2011, 02:24:55 PM
Here's big Ivan in Y&B.... (courtesy of RFCO)

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg644/scaled.php?tn=0&server=644&filename=dqf3.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

http://yfrog.com/hwdqf3j
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 18, 2011, 03:54:46 PM
Maric interview at Tigerland today...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/396846/default.aspx
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHuQIvlwedk

Maric said pretty much all the right things as a new recruit....

* Dimma and the way we played as team attracted him to Richmond. Attractive for him to watch. Had a chat with Dimma and that made it clear

* Privileged to play and work with the young mids we've got.

* Started footy late as a 16 year old. Drafted by Adelaide in 2004 and played 7 years there. Got a huge family so great to be back home and exciting for all involved.

* He wants to play aggressively and be respected for that. He said he plays his best footy and enjoy playing footy when he plays aggressively.  He wants others to hate playing against him. He want to have an impact straight away, be vocal and drag others along being a leader on the track and in the gym to set new and high standards. Enjoys training and being a leader and mentoring kids. Also likes to learn. 
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Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 18, 2011, 05:04:39 PM
At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 18, 2011, 05:53:56 PM
So quiet, reserved and polite on camera.... such a mongrel on the field.  ;D

My favourite is his reply to leadership aspirations. They way he said he wants to just be himself seemed so genuine, not just a scripted response  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 18, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Looks like Cousin Balke.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 18, 2011, 09:18:28 PM
Looks like Cousin Balke.
:lol  :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RFC_Official on October 18, 2011, 09:31:16 PM
At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.

 :clapping

Only jumper we had lying around in his size!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 18, 2011, 09:35:21 PM
At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.

 :clapping

Only jumper we had lying around in his size!
Helbig must have grown 15cm taller and 15kg heavier since the end of the season  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 19, 2011, 12:20:31 AM
Ivan’s instant impact intent
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 18 Oct, 2011


Ivan Maric is aiming for an instant impact at Tigerland . . .

The 200cm, 102kg ruckman from Adelaide, who was snared by Richmond in a three-way deal during the 2011 AFL Trade Week, told ‘Roar Vision’ of his desire to hit the ground running at his new football home.

“I’m really excited about pre-season . . . I just want to come in and have an impact straight away and be pretty vocal, which I’m quite comfortable at doing,” he said.

“I want to be a leader on the track and drag others along and maybe set some new standards as well on the training track and in the weights room.

“I really enjoy training hard and being a leader on the track and mentoring young kids . . .”

Maric, who played 77 games in six seasons at Adelaide, expressed his enthusiasm for the physical side of the game, which he believes will hold him in good stead with the Tigers . . .

“When I play my best footy, and when I enjoy playing footy the most, is when I’m aggressive.  That’s why I loved playing the game as a kid,” he said.

“I want to be aggressive - really aggressive - at the ball . . . I want people to hate playing against me because of that.”

 The 25-year-old also revealed why he was so keen to join Richmond . . .
“It’s just the transformation with Damien Hardwick, and the effect he had on the playing group,” Maric said.

“Not only did he make them a lot more competitive and consistent, but just the way they celebrated and played as a team and for each other, was really attractive for me to watch.

“And, then, after meeting with Damien at the end of the year, it made everything really clear about what I wanted to do and who I wanted to play for.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125274/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 19, 2011, 12:23:01 AM
Gus sets the standards in the weights room, Ivan. Beefcake is a monster of a man.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 19, 2011, 12:41:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852FZ7zzC0U

Just watch at the 2:30 mark.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 19, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852FZ7zzC0U

Just watch at the 2:30 mark.

Nice! :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 19, 2011, 02:00:39 AM
Maric is ready to rumble
The Age
October 19, 2011


RICHMOND ruck recruit Ivan Maric says he plans to be so aggressive for his new club that opponents will hate to face him.

The 25-year-old's aggression was a key attraction for the Tigers and coach Damien Hardwick, who last week gave up draft pick No. 37 for the Adelaide big man.

While Maric struggled for senior games with the Crows, stuck behind Sam Jacobs in the ruck pecking order, he is likely to instantly assume No. 1 ruckman status with the Tigers.

But Maric said it was more than just greater opportunity and the chance to return to his home state that prompted his desire to join Richmond. ''It was just the transformation with Damien Hardwick and the effect he had on the playing group,'' he said on Richmond's website.

''Not only did he make them a lot more competitive and consistent, but just the way they celebrated and played for the team and played for each other was really attractive for me.

''After meeting with Damien … it made everything clear about what I wanted to do.''

Maric said providing the aggression Richmond was after would come naturally for him. ''That's when I enjoy playing footy and that's why I loved playing the game as a kid,'' he said. ''I want to be aggressive, really aggressive at the ball, but I also want to be respected, and I want people to hate playing against me because of that.''

Maric said he felt ''privileged and honoured'' to be able to work with an emerging Richmond midfield, which boasts Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.

He was hoping to lift his new club, from the time he first hit the track for pre-season training. ''I just want to come in and have an impact straight away and … being a leader on the track,'' he said.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/maric-is-ready-to-rumble-20111018-1lyr1.html#ixzz1b965dWvL
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 19, 2011, 02:43:00 AM
There is a hell of a lot of talk the talk going on here.....

Just shut it and walk the walk, this amount of talk always comes back on us.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on October 19, 2011, 07:51:03 AM
There is a hell of a lot of talk the talk going on here.....

Just shut it and walk the walk, this amount of talk always comes back on us.

In fairness it appears the kid did one interview. Many news outlets then reported on it. So I think it's more a little talking a hell of a lot of reporting.

Personally I am interested to hear what he has to say, so were the papers it seems.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on October 19, 2011, 08:43:28 AM

In fairness it appears the kid did one interview.


2 now given the radio interview on SEN this morning.  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 21, 2011, 12:35:51 AM
I couldn't find this on the web so I scanned it in......

Tiger keen to earn his stripes
By Jon Ralph
Sunday Times
20 Nov 2011, Page 74


NEW Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric knows exactly what he is not.

He cannot jump like Nic Naitanui or run like Dean Cox.

And he is not the mega-star recruit that will instantly guarantee the Tigers finals success.

But what he does have might just be enough for Richmond next year.

The former Adelaide ruckman has promised to bring a new level of aggression to a game that already features silky tap-work and repeat second efforts.

If he can deliver on that promise, a trade which saw the Tigers give up only pick 37 might just work out perfectly.

``I'm never going to move like Cox or Naitanui,'' said Maric, a former Calder Cannon just entering his peak after seven years at Adelaide.

``I really admire Brad Ottens. He's so strong and a good ruckman always follows up on the ground as well. He's someone I look up to. Even Darren Jolly as well they're both able to go forward. I watch them closely and I see myself being able to do that as well.''

If Richmond supporters were forgiven an ``Ivan who?'' moment when his name came up in discussions, Maric has a solid track record.

He played 57 games in three seasons entering this year and combined strong contested marking with solid centre-square work.

Then Sam Jacobs arrived from Carlton. Quickly Maric knew he needed to find another home.

``It was pretty early in the year. I was having conversations with Neil Craig and they were saying that they were giving me the message they wanted me at the club but we have to do what's best for you, and if that's exploring other options we want you to do that,'' Maric said.

``Initially it was pretty hard for me to take because I enjoyed my time there and wanted to give a fair bit back to Adelaide, but you have to be proactive in your career, and I've done that whether it's being out of form or this situation, and I was really keen to get here.''

His parents both moved from Croatia to Melbourne before meeting and marrying, with Maric growing up loving the Tigers.

But he also loved the way they celebrated as a team and played team-first football under coach Damien Hardwick.

Quickly a plan was hatched to get him to Richmond.

``I feel like I missed out on a season at the highest level last year,'' Maric said.

``I'm feeling really good and my body is feeling strong. I feel like I can get even stronger and I want to be tough to play against.

``This year was really good because although I didn't play a lot of AFL, I spent a lot more time playing forward in the SANFL and even in the last three games at Adelaide I played forward. It was great for my development and that's where I see myself in the future.''

The prospect of rucking to the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin is particularly mouth-watering.

``Dusty is sensational at stoppages and even when he goes forward he kicks goals. Trent Cotchin seems like a really good leader and is stepping up, and he's really hard at it.''

``You love to have those guys around you. I just want to attack the ball with the same attitude they do, and earn their respect and trust, as well as my other teammates as well.''

New 22-year-old teammate Steven Morris cannot wait to join Maric, knowing others have blazed the same trail as him in recent years.

``Certainly guys like Nick Duigan and Paul Puopolo last year give me some confidence that if you work hard and stick at it the results can come,'' Morris said.

``I played against Ivan a few times (in the SANFL) last year and we're both really excited about coming to Punt Road and hopefully getting a game with the Tigers next year.''
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on November 22, 2011, 07:47:12 PM
Didn't say go all in once.  :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2011, 04:16:47 AM
Ivan Maric shaping up as Richmond's hard man

    by: Jon Ralph
    From: Sunday Herald Sun
    November 27, 2011


NEW Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric knows exactly what he is not.

He cannot jump like Nic Naitanui or run like Dean Cox.

And he is not the mega-star recruit that will instantly guarantee the Tigers finals success.

But what he does have could be just what the Tigers need next year.

The former Adelaide ruckman promises to bring a new level of aggression to a game that already features silky tap work and back-up efforts.

If he can deliver on that, a trade in which Richmond give up only pick 37 could just work out perfectly.

"I am never going to move like Cox or Naitanui," conceded Maric, a former Calder Cannon just entering his peak after seven years at Adelaide.

He added: "I really admire Brad Ottens. He's so strong, and a good ruckman always follows up on the ground as well. He's someone I look up to, (and) even Darren Jolly - they are both able to go forward. I watch them closely and I see myself being able to do that as well."

If Richmond supporters were forgiven an "Ivan who?" moment when his name came up in discussions, Maric has a solid track record.

He played 57 games in three seasons entering this year, combining strong, contested marking with solid centre-square work.

Then Sam Jacobs arrived at Adelaide from Carlton.

Quickly, Maric knew he needed to find new home.

"It was pretty early in the year. I was having conversations with Neil Craig and they were saying they were giving me the message they wanted me at the club, but we have to do what's best for you, and if that's exploring other options, we want you to do that," Maric said.

"Initially it was pretty hard for me to take, because I enjoyed my time there and wanted to give a fair bit back to Adelaide, but you have to be proactive in your career."

Maric grew up loving the Tigers. He also loved the way they celebrated as a team, and played team-first football, especially under coach Damien Hardwick.

So a plan was hatched to get him to Richmond.

"I'm feeling really good, my body's feeling strong. I feel like I can get even stronger and I want to be tough to play against," he said.

"This year was really good, because although I didn't play a lot of AFL, I spent a lot more time playing forward in the SANFL, and even in the last three games at Adelaide I played forward. It was great for my development and that's where I see myself in the future."

The prospect of rucking to the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin is particularly mouth-watering.

"Dusty is sensational at stoppages, and even when he goes forward, he kicks goals," Maric said. "Trent Cotchin seems a really good leader and is stepping up, and he's really hard at it."

"You love to have those guys around you. I just want to attack the ball with the same attitude they do, and earn their respect and trust, as well as my other teammates, too."

Steven Morris, 22, cannot wait to join Maric.

"I played against Ivan a few times (in the SANFL) last year and we are both really excited about coming to Punt Rd. They are on the up, so it's an exciting time to join the club," he said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ivan-maric-shaping-up-as-richmonds-hard-man/story-fn4hg9de-1226206979448
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: sabartooth on November 27, 2011, 07:42:55 AM
Good work by Ralphy to use the same story 2 weeks in a row ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on November 27, 2011, 07:46:02 AM
Yeah, thought I'd read that one already!   :huh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on November 27, 2011, 08:55:28 AM
that bastard wasted moments of my life making me reread that ... I will never get them back, or these angry moments responding..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on November 27, 2011, 09:33:33 AM
Good work by Ralphy to use the same story 2 weeks in a row ::)

he ate all his crayons so couldn't write anything new!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on November 27, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
on the plus side, big Anna Ivan-a-vich is saying all the right things (whether that translates into DOING all the right things is another story...)  they do have big wraps on him at the club for his training/work ethic which can only be a positive on the young group & at least it might inspire some competitiveness (both on field and for spots) amongst our rucks....

would rather he could run and jump like cox/nick nat but heck, still looks/sounds like an upgrade on our recent ruck stocks...and is still only 25
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on November 27, 2011, 01:38:20 PM
Maric is telling it how it is, I'm sure we will end up getting what he promises. Unlike some other Tiger players who have promised the world and delivered  :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 27, 2011, 02:18:25 PM
he's as tough as nails this bloke and at the right age to really take that next step in the right environment to be a top ruckman, still pinching myself we got him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on November 27, 2011, 02:19:12 PM
You're still pinching yourself about us recruiting Ben Nason.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2011, 02:20:53 PM
thankfully Ben Nason has been pinched out
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on November 27, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
It is becoming more and more evident that Maric must start as second option behind Gus.

Gus enjoys cheese toasties, by the way.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on November 28, 2011, 10:52:14 PM
I had an encounter with the big Gustav and the word is he has 2 years to go on his contract.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on February 18, 2012, 08:53:19 AM
Big Ivan confirmed the No.1 ruck spot last night. Maric had the better of North's rucks. I would have Derickx No.2 in line now. More versatile and reliable than Gus. Poor Gus once again showed he isn't the answer even though he got a few hitouts last night. Half the time he's not looking at the ball and just crashes into his opponent.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 18, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
Big Ivan confirmed the No.1 ruck spot last night. Maric had the better of North's rucks. I would have Derickx No.2 in line now. More versatile and reliable than Gus. Poor Gus once again showed he isn't the answer even though he got a few hitouts last night. Half the time he's not looking at the ball and just crashes into his opponent.

Rot. Better of the North rucks? Their rucks combined got more of it than Maric (who got the same amount of ball and hitouts as Gus). Meanwhile, Graham dominated the hitouts against his man and held him to one disposal. Not to mention several crucial spoils and one effort to split a pack at the end of the game to assure us of victory. Maric confirming #1 spot with 5 touches  :lol high standards at Richmond

Dare I say we wouldn't have beaten the Hawks with any other ruck. The Bake needs a few more games to get herself ready for the real thing. She'll start behind Maric but don't rule her out.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on February 18, 2012, 09:49:48 AM
Maric was clearly the best ruckman playing for us out of the two games. Around the ground was where he showed his class and while he didn't get the pill a huge amount, he has pace, agility, game sense and smarts that would have embarrassed Gus. Gus made too many mistakes and looked all at sea around the ground last night. He still has time but we made the right decision getting Maric, undoubtably.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 18, 2012, 09:57:50 AM
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120208/640/epic_haters_gonna_hate_memes_640_11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 18, 2012, 10:05:38 AM
Why did the black amputee cross the road?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 18, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
To get a cheese toastie

Now move on ppl, gus was crap and maric wasn't much better
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 18, 2012, 10:53:15 AM
Gus... A body like a man but plays like a girl.

I won't be convinced on any of our rucks until I see a kruzer like like ruckman dominating around the ground. Even Browne can tap the ball. If that's all your good for then your useless IMO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: camboon on February 18, 2012, 12:33:01 PM
You need to take into acount who they were rucking against -
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on February 18, 2012, 01:57:26 PM
Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on February 18, 2012, 03:47:36 PM
Not sure I ever saw Gus move any faster than a brisk stroll.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 18, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.

He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.

I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time  :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 18, 2012, 10:46:07 PM
Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.

He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.

I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time  :bow

We all know ou get your mail direct from Dooks, and we all know how god his mail is........ :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 18, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.

He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.

I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time  :bow

We all know ou get your mail direct from Dooks, and we all know how god his mail is........ :whistle :whistle

Your spelling needs to improve. My mail is from a good source.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 18, 2012, 11:37:37 PM
my 6yo daughter is tougher than gus, that weak bastard should dominate and impose his presence on games, but is plays scared , plays soft, and is an embarrassment
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on February 19, 2012, 02:02:54 AM
Anyone who thinks Gus should be paid to play any sort of physical activity takes it up the .
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on February 19, 2012, 02:03:44 AM
Ivan's mullet rucks better than Ancus
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 19, 2012, 03:20:27 AM
Do you have any insight into what Beefcake was like as a junior? Don't you have a role with a TAC Cup club :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 19, 2012, 06:49:16 AM
Built like Tarzan plays like Jane.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on February 19, 2012, 07:18:34 AM
It is disappointing because he looks like a ruck man, he moves like one but he plays like a _________
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on February 19, 2012, 07:44:42 AM
Ivan's mullet rucks better than Ancus

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 19, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Do you have any insight into what Beefcake was like as a junior? Don't you have a role with a TAC Cup club :lol

Your very protective of Angus.. Do you have a role with Angus in any way?

No need for that...
Who wants to see anyone in the yellow and black jumper fail??
I sure as hell don't!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 19, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Gee whiz
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on February 19, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
Some pleasing commentary about the mulleted Croat from some crows fans in this BF thread:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911617&page=3
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 19, 2012, 05:07:38 PM
As most know I am not a Gus fan but I thought his game on Firday night was OK, probably the best I've seen from him in a long long time

Why?

Every ruck contest he watched the ball and not the man.  That is a significant improvement

While I agree Maric is clearly a better ruckman having Maric around is going to be good for Gus because he isn't going to be gifted games anymore and that's got to be a good thing 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 19, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
Reckon people who are bagging Gus need to watch the game again. Keep your eyes on the big bastard and you'll see that he worked hard up and down the ground. Like i have already said, split some packs and made a coupld of good spoils down back. I wouldn't say he played a good game but he was better than the bloke he rucked against.

Gus will improve this season.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 19, 2012, 06:28:28 PM
Reckon people who are bagging Gus need to watch the game again. Keep your eyes on the big bastard and you'll see that he worked hard up and down the ground. Like i have already said, split some packs and made a coupld of good spoils down back. I wouldn't say he played a good game but he was better than the bloke he rucked against.

Gus will improve this season.

The problem is he did this for 5 minutes of each half then ran out of puff ::) ::)
I don't think we  will have to worry to much about Gus this season, Maric wont give him a chance to break into the side ;) :lol :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 19, 2012, 06:29:47 PM
He won us the game by splitting a pack in the last minute, guy. How's your jelly
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on February 19, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
Gus was the key when the game was to be won, he threw his weight around and split several packs open.

As for his blind turn.  :bow

Maric was ordinary at best. Incident when the ball was kicked to him towards the end of the game on the wing and he was scared and lacked the mobility to compete.

He is ahead of himself, demanding to be called Eeee-vaaan, and was noticeably abusive towards his team mates.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 23, 2012, 12:05:27 PM
Talent on tap
Inside Football
Feb 22, 2012


The Tigers hope Ivan Maric can restore them as a rucking powerhouse, writes NATHAN TEMPLETON.

 
FOR a quarter of a century, dating back to the days of Mark "the General" Lee, Richmond has searched without luck for a quality long-term ruckman.

Somewhat ironically, the Tigers have now turned to Ivan Maric, in many ways a throwback to the 1980s, to break the drought.

When the former Adelaide Crow made his debut in yellow and black on Friday night, Twitter feeds lit up with fans commenting on (and mostly praising) Maric's "mullet" hairstyle. And the 200cm, 100kg giant also aims to play like an old-fashioned follower.

"I love playing aggressive," Maric said.

"They want me to be physical and block for the smaller guys and I love doing that."

That will be music to the ears of Richmond's supporters, and its star-studded young midfield.

"Doing all those sacrificial acts helps to build a strong bond with all the midfielders. I'm happy for them get all the possessions," he said.

"I've got some quality players to hit the ball to, it's pretty exciting in there with guys like Cotchin, Martin, Foley and Tuck."

After playing only six AFL matches in 2011, Maric became disillusioned with the Crows, and Richmond came to the party, giving up draft pick 37 to bring the Victorian home.

"It was a hard decision, but the way the season panned out made it easier," he said.

"Geelong won the premiership with two ruckmen but Neil Craig didn't believe in playing too many talls. That's fine, that was his philosophy, but it was hard because I thought there was room for two ruckmen.

"I just tried to look at the positives. I played a lot up forward with (SANFL club) Port Magpies, and I improved that part of my game and learnt a lot about myself."

Angus Graham had been the first-choice ruckman at Punt Road for the past two seasons, with support from developing 200cm forward Ty Vickery.

The club also had promising youngsters Andrew Browne, Tom Derickx and Ben Griffiths in the wings, but decided it needed some heavy-duty reinforcements.

"Richmond got in touch with my manager halfway through the year," Maric said.

"I was keen to come back to Melbourne and I could see how much the club changed when (coach Damien) Hardwick took over, you could notice it even from the outside.

"I wanted to come to a club where I could make an impact. I want to set high standards and be a mentor. I said as soon as I arrived I want to earn everything, don't hand it to me."

No-one knows better the importance of a strong big-man combination than Richmond's ruck coach Brendon Lade, who formed a formidable partnership with former Port captain Matthew Primus, and later teamed with Dean Brogan to help the Power to the 2004 premiership.

Lade believes Maric can provide much-needed grunt for the Tigers.

"The big thing about Ivan is his competitiveness, he just hates to lose," Lade said.

"He wasn't really getting a game with the Crows and we thought that was a bit of a waste. We think he can play an important role for us."

Lade says Maric's arrival has also had a positive effect on Graham, and the club finally has some competition for ruck spots.

"He (Graham) needed that second bloke to push him, they've been fighting it out at training," Lade said.

"I think Angus has all the traits to be one of the great ruckmen in the AFL, he's a good size and he runs really well so I'm looking forward to seeing his development.

"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regard."

But 21-year-old Vickery is the man who looms as the X-factor in the Tigers' set-up.

"He's got a lot of upside but we're waiting for him to grow into his body so he'll probably stay up forward, but in the next few years he will become a really crucial player," Lade said.

Maric has also been impressed with Vickery.

"I can't wait to see how good he's going to get," Maric said.

"For a guy that tall, the way he moves is really exciting. He is really dangerous up forward and if he can play ruck and forward he's going to be really great for the club."

Maric is hoping to follow Vickery's lead and add attacking skills to his repertoire.

"I want to be someone who takes a lot of marks. I want to be remembered for that at the end of my career," Maric said.

"I feel really comfortable playing up forward."

The son of Croatian parents, Maric grew up a basketball fanatic in the Melbourne suburb Keilor, and didn't start playing Australian rules until he was 16.

Now the 26-year-old believes he's in his prime.

"Now is the time for me to become a consistent AFL player," he said.

"I've had enough time and if I can't do that now, if I'm not playing well enough then I just won't get a game. It's a bit of pressure but I'm embracing it. It's nothing I can't do, I've got belief in myself."

Tiger fans will be happy to learn he also has belief in the "mullet", at least for now.

"While I can still grow it, I'll just enjoy it, I think."

http://www.insidefootballonline.com/feature.html
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 23, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
That is the best mullet going around, hope he grows it to his a-r-s-e.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on February 23, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regar.

Yeh right.... :shh

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 23, 2012, 01:33:08 PM
Dude! Are you O.K :o :o :o :o :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on February 23, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
"I've got some quality players to hit the ball to, it's pretty exciting in there with guys like Cotchin, Martin, Foley and Tuck."


No-way they will all be playing at Coburg!  :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on February 23, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
That is the best mullet going around, hope he grows it to his a-r-s-e.

He's got a bit of a ways to catch up to the best Mullet I have ever seen in Australian sport, Kerry Hemsley from the Balmain Tigers Rugby League club.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/16h18cy.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 23, 2012, 10:05:52 PM
Snip!

Stick to the topic ppl!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 24, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
My post was on topic. This is an outrage.  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 24, 2012, 11:17:58 AM
If Ivan is a success in 2012 will the cheer squad wack on mullet wigs?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 24, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
My post was on topic. This is an outrage.  :banghead

A rare post indeed.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on February 24, 2012, 11:47:40 AM
My post was on topic. This is an outrage.  :banghead

A rare post indeed.

 :thumbsup

Who are you to judge? you are the off-topic queen.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 24, 2012, 11:56:21 AM
My post was on topic. This is an outrage.  :banghead

A rare post indeed.

 :thumbsup

Who are you to judge? you are the off-topic queen.

Not judging at all.

And have a look at my posts before you make spurious claims.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on February 24, 2012, 12:46:39 PM


And have a look at my posts before you make spurious claims.

 :cheers

I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 24, 2012, 12:53:50 PM


And have a look your own posts before you make spurious claims.

 :cheers

I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.

 :cheers

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 24, 2012, 12:54:42 PM
I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.

 :cheers

Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.

This is a forum FFS.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 24, 2012, 01:56:29 PM
I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.

 :cheers

Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.

This is a forum FFS.

 :cheers

I give a stuff and the 'This is a forum FFS' line is blatant plagarism.

Get your own wit.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on February 24, 2012, 02:21:27 PM
I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.

 :cheers

Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.

This is a forum FFS.

 :cheers

I give a stuff and the 'This is a forum FFS' line is blatant plagarism.

Get your own wit.

 :bow (I don't think)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on March 10, 2012, 05:18:13 PM
I am loving the Big Mullet he is really giving good presence around the  throw ins and bounces Gus ,Browne and  Derrikx should be chewing at the bit to get back in and when they do either through  big Mullets  eventual injury or suspension i feel they will kill em Maric will be a blessing in disguise . This is what i have been waiting for he was the perfect pick up
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on March 10, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
is this another master stroke by BH
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 10, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
Coach, whats going on brother, the big M seems to be getting the cheers and beers while the big G is sweeping up the possum poo back at Tigerland......

Mate can the big G get up, whats happening????
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 10, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
Go All In seems to have a serious problem now and its called Ivan Maric. Maric is a very competitive ruckman.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on March 10, 2012, 07:17:06 PM
Maric is a very competitive ruckman.

^ think that's 50% of his value right there...at least he seems to enjoy competing which is a big improvement on some of our recent rucks...the fact he also wins some hitouts AND hits them to advantage is real bonus :)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on March 10, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Was the biggest difference between the teams today. Gave our midfielders first use of the ball and was the reason we won the clearances. In the first half he was everywhere. Will be the biggest difference this year. Absolute masterstroke getting the Mullet to the club!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 10, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regar.

Yeh right.... :shh

browne is young.

how good was maric at same stage? give the lad time
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 10, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
Coach, whats going on brother, the big M seems to be getting the cheers and beers while the big G is sweeping up the possum poo back at Tigerland......

Mate can the big G get up, whats happening????

dunno. haven't seen big Goose since the first Nab Cup games. gone AWOL

Maric very good today. Real test comes against the Kruz
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on March 10, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
Beefcake has been unceremoniously replaced by a cabbage roll.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 10, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YB77 on March 10, 2012, 10:00:03 PM
Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet

You worship the mullet :bow :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: julzqld on March 10, 2012, 10:02:05 PM
I don't mind the mullet - at least it can ruck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 10, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet

You worship the mullet :bow :bow

oh no  :jump
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YB77 on March 10, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet

You worship the mullet :bow :bow

oh no  :jump

Bang! Somthings gone wrong??????
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 10, 2012, 10:15:30 PM
Mullet, crew cut, bald, part in the middle.
Could not care less if the kid continues to play the way he does. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 10, 2012, 11:00:37 PM
15 disposals (11 contested) at 93% efficiency, 5 marks, 22 hitouts and 5 clearances. You can't ask much more in a day's work from a ruckman. We just need TV, Derickx (when he plays) and others to give big Ivan a chop out now and then in the ruck so Maric's workload isn't overloaded over a long season and he doesn't break down touchwood.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 10, 2012, 11:16:34 PM
It's very early but I'm liking what I'm seeing of ivaarn. Impact!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 10, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
Maric = Demi-god
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 11, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
Even the big Davey is on the Maric train now! Chu beauty!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mat073 on March 11, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
Early days -yes.....but its obvious for all to see that Ivan makes Richmond a significantly better team.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 11, 2012, 03:37:02 PM
Early days -yes.....but its obvious for all to see that Ivan makes Richmond a significantly better team.

Agree Mat, makes it bleedingly obvious how much we were missing out on by relying on Graham.  The mids must be pinching themselves to actually have a fighting chance of getting first use out of the ruck.  And who would have thought that a ruckman can actually get involved in the game around the ground?  Ground-breaking stuff after our last couple of seasons!  ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on March 11, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
i did see  one silly part from the big man  he was the man on the mark  from a kick out i couldn't believe it  shouldn't he be 60 metres from goal ?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 11, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
If he stays fit for the season we can move up two places on the ladder just from him alone.

That's how much we've missed a half decent ruck!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 11, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
If he stays fit for the season we can move up two places on the ladder just from him alone.

That's how much we've missed a half decent ruck!

Not only that but with the level of class we have in our midfield compared to the other middle of the road sides it makes us that much more dangerous and with Ivan competing the way he has been it makes our mids even more dangerous and able to get first use of the ball. Case in point yesterday. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 13, 2012, 06:55:54 AM
No frills Maric has Tigers in the hunt
Greg Denham
From: The Australian March 13, 2012 12:00AM

HE won't win a best-and-fairest award and would be at long odds to make All Australian, but new Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his mark at Punt Road.

And while Maric will probably never be mentioned in the same breath as teammates Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin or Jack Riewoldt, he might just become one of the Tigers' most valuable players.

It is early days -- Richmond's season starts against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday fortnight -- but Maric's pre-season form is an indication that the club's long-time Achilles heel has been addressed and fixed.

The Tigers have been weak in the ruck division for some time and the unheralded Maric was viewed as a future option mid-way through last year by list manager Blair Hartley.

The 26-year-old was not going anywhere at Adelaide because of a lack of opportunities and was keen on the idea of returning to Victoria from the first day he was sounded out. Before his change of environment, he played 77 games in six seasons with the Crows, including just six last season.

Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said his club had no hesitation in trading its national draft selection No 37 to Adelaide in return, and signing up the ruckman for three years.

"Blair picked him out as someone who could benefit us," Cameron said yesterday. "We wanted a mature, aggressive ruckman, and we've been more than happy with him since he's been here. We've been pleased with the leadership he's brought to the club and encouraged by his competitiveness."

Maric plays a bit like his mullet hairstyle -- old fashioned with no frills. In his first full hit-out for the Tigers he was rock solid in their 59-point third-round NAB Cup win against Geelong at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.

The combination of Maric and Ty Vickery clearly outpointed the Cats' big men -- premiership ruckman Trent West and mature-age recruit Orren Stephenson -- in what was a preview of Richmond's set-up to start the 2012 season proper.

Maric will do the bulk of the ruck work, with Vickery as his back-up, alternating as a tall forward, where he booted 36 goals last year in just his third senior season.

As many as three new Richmond faces could play in the opening round against the Blues, as teenager Brandon Ellis and former Melbourne midfielder Addam Maric (no relation) have done enough in the pre-season to warrant consideration.

The Tigers will wind up their NAB Cup campaign against Greater Western Sydney in Canberra on Saturday when they plan to field a near full-strength line-up, which will include Deledio for the first time during the series. The only certain exclusion is suspended half-back Reece Conca, who is eligible to start the premiership season.

Dual best-and-fairest winner Deledio has been sidelined since damaging his hamstring last month.

Richmond, which has beaten Hawthorn and the Cats in its four NAB Cup matches, appears certain to earn prizemoney by finishing inside the top-eight of the pre-season competition.

On Sunday, coach Damien Hardwick said the Tigers were better placed than at any other time during his first three years at Punt Road to defeat Carlton, which has won its past seven games against Richmond stretching back to round 14, 2008.

He said the win last weekend over Geelong was a step in the right direction. "You only have to look at the depth of our players, the quality of our players, I think they've improved enormously from a development point of view and from a size and a physicality point of view," Hardwick said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/no-frills-maric-has-tigers-in-the-hunt/story-fnca0u4y-1226297553939

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on March 13, 2012, 09:56:44 AM
I closely watched a replay of the game yesterday and Ivan was involved directly in the first few goals. His impact can not be under-rated. It started to run out of petrol as the game wore on but his around the ground work was unheard of at Tigerland! If he can take a few grabs and steer and few goals through down forward that would be the cherry on the cake.

He is the player I'm most excited about watching this year and everything starts at stoppages.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 13, 2012, 11:12:10 AM
No frills Maric has Tigers in the hunt

    by: Greg Denham
    From: The Australian
    March 13, 2012


HE won't win a best-and-fairest award and would be at long odds to make All Australian, but new Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his mark at Punt Road.

And while Maric will probably never be mentioned in the same breath as teammates Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin or Jack Riewoldt, he might just become one of the Tigers' most valuable players.

It is early days -- Richmond's season starts against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday fortnight -- but Maric's pre-season form is an indication that the club's long-time Achilles heel has been addressed and fixed.

The Tigers have been weak in the ruck division for some time and the unheralded Maric was viewed as a future option mid-way through last year by list manager Blair Hartley.

The 26-year-old was not going anywhere at Adelaide because of a lack of opportunities and was keen on the idea of returning to Victoria from the first day he was sounded out. Before his change of environment, he played 77 games in six seasons with the Crows, including just six last season.

Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said his club had no hesitation in trading its national draft selection No 37 to Adelaide in return, and signing up the ruckman for three years.

"Blair picked him out as someone who could benefit us," Cameron said yesterday. "We wanted a mature, aggressive ruckman, and we've been more than happy with him since he's been here. We've been pleased with the leadership he's brought to the club and encouraged by his competitiveness."

Maric plays a bit like his mullet hairstyle -- old fashioned with no frills. In his first full hit-out for the Tigers he was rock solid in their 59-point third-round NAB Cup win against Geelong at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.

The combination of Maric and Ty Vickery clearly outpointed the Cats' big men -- premiership ruckman Trent West and mature-age recruit Orren Stephenson -- in what was a preview of Richmond's set-up to start the 2012 season proper.

Maric will do the bulk of the ruck work, with Vickery as his back-up, alternating as a tall forward, where he booted 36 goals last year in just his third senior season.

As many as three new Richmond faces could play in the opening round against the Blues, as teenager Brandon Ellis and former Melbourne midfielder Addam Maric (no relation) have done enough in the pre-season to warrant consideration.

The Tigers will wind up their NAB Cup campaign against Greater Western Sydney in Canberra on Saturday when they plan to field a near full-strength line-up, which will include Deledio for the first time during the series. The only certain exclusion is suspended half-back Reece Conca, who is eligible to start the premiership season.

Dual best-and-fairest winner Deledio has been sidelined since damaging his hamstring last month.

Richmond, which has beaten Hawthorn and the Cats in its four NAB Cup matches, appears certain to earn prizemoney by finishing inside the top-eight of the pre-season competition.

On Sunday, coach Damien Hardwick said the Tigers were better placed than at any other time during his first three years at Punt Road to defeat Carlton, which has won its past seven games against Richmond stretching back to round 14, 2008.

He said the win last weekend over Geelong was a step in the right direction. "You only have to look at the depth of our players, the quality of our players, I think they've improved enormously from a development point of view and from a size and a physicality point of view," Hardwick said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/no-frills-maric-has-tigers-in-the-hunt/story-fnca0u4y-1226297553939
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 14, 2012, 10:46:31 PM
Maric to set the Tigers' table for midfield feast

Inside Football
Wednesday, March 14 2012


 
Richmond star Nathan Foley believes the Tigers' midfield is going to love sitting at the feet of ruck recruit Ivan Maric this season.

Maric dominated in Richmond's 59-point NAB Cup victory over Geelong at Simonds Stadium, allowing the Tiger midfield first use of the ball at the majority of centre bounces and stoppages against a formidable Cats outfit.

Maric, who also stands out on the field because of his 1980s-style mullet hairdo, outplayed Cats pair Trent West and Orren Stephenson, and Foley says the former Adelaide big man's pre-season form is giving the Tigers' young on-ballers a lot of confidence that he'll palm the ball in their direction more often than not.

"Obviously the likes of (Jimmy) Bartel and (Joel) Selwood weren't playing, but Ivan was sensational in the ruck and he gave us a lot of first use," Foley said.

"It (clearance work) is such an important part of the game and if you look at teams like Geelong, Collingwood and all the top teams, their stoppage work is sensational.

"You've got to be so good in that area."

While it may have been only a pre-season match, Foley said there was plenty to like about the Tigers' performance against the premier heading towards their blockbuster season opener against Carlton in a fortnight.

"At this stage of the year you want to get some good form into all your good players and get some run into the legs," Foley said.

"Obviously we fielded a pretty strong side and everyone got through well and we're another step forward in working on our structures and game style.

"If you look at our team, the more footy we play together the more in sync we'll become.

"So another hit-out next week will be good and then we'll zone in on Round 1."

The Tigers travel to Canberra on Saturday to take on GWS.

Foley is another to join the growing chorus impressed by the Tigers' No.1 draft pick of last year Brandon Ellis, who took another step in his development with a 20-possession game against the Cats.

"He's such a good user of the ball and he's not afraid to put his head over it. He's certainly putting his hand up (to play Round 1)," Foley said of Ellis.

After a big summer, Foley had a game-high 25 touches against the Cats.

"You've got to be so fit these days so it's crucial to have a full pre-season," he said.

http://www.insidefootballonline.com/news1.html
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 18, 2012, 03:42:45 AM
Kingy interviewed big Ivan in the rooms after yesterday's game ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/431295/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 18, 2012, 08:37:59 AM
 :lol

Kingy should keep up with current trends in plumbing because he doesn't have a media career to look forward to at the end of his playing days!

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 18, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Ivan "I'm the boss" :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 21, 2012, 06:19:27 PM
From Jon Ralph's ‏twitter @RalphyHeraldSun

"Some real concerns out of Tigerland. I believe Ivan Maric was getting haircut on magnificent mullet last night. Hope he kept it long at back"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 21, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
From Jon Ralph's ‏twitter @RalphyHeraldSun

"Some real concerns out of Tigerland. I believe Ivan Maric was getting haircut on magnificent mullet last night. Hope he kept it long at back"

And the SA tiger supporter group has just severed ties...  :o
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 22, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
As well as the Tassie ones also.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2012, 04:20:18 PM
Reports of the demise of Ivan's mullet have been greatly exaggerated ...

(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/141980405.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215AB089EE596C6588AF139078324D51D92D7AE44B69F8824BF4ADC7C8FFE5830A)
Source: today's training (gettyimages)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 28, 2012, 08:24:22 PM
my bro calls him the 'Warlord'.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on March 28, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
my bro calls him the 'Warlord'.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Vlad_Tepes_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 28, 2012, 08:51:22 PM
 :lol that's gold!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 28, 2012, 10:41:51 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 30, 2012, 04:52:21 AM
What did we all think of big Ivan's game last night?

Stats:
18 disposals
5 marks
25 hitouts
5 clearances.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
What did we all think of big Ivan's game last night?

Stats:
18 disposals
5 marks
25 hitouts
5 clearances.

He was up against it but gee tried his guts and didn't drop his head

I thought he was in our best 6
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 30, 2012, 09:17:54 AM
Agree, Kruezer had a blinder last night witch made Maric's game look a little worse than it probally was.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Sabretooth on March 30, 2012, 11:19:58 AM
Tries hard, not bad around the ground, but too short!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2012, 11:28:29 AM
Yep Ivan has his deficiencies but I thought he tried his guts out.
He has competitiveness and gets to contests too.

I shudder to think what the final margin would have been had Gus been playing. :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 30, 2012, 11:31:41 AM
I thought he did well last night, was one of our better players
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on March 30, 2012, 11:50:23 AM
Yep Ivan has his deficiencies but I thought he tried his guts out.
He has competitiveness and gets to contests too.

I shudder to think what the final margin would have been had Gus been playing. :help

He was competitive. That's all we got him for. He was the reason why we were close to the Baggers in the clearance count.
You're right Tucker - we would have been absolutely smashed if Gus had of tried to ruck las night.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 14, 2012, 06:40:01 PM
Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2012, 06:43:34 PM
Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday

can we bring back the knob instead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 14, 2012, 06:44:51 PM
Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 14, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....

Was sorta hoping me and my mate were only ones who saw it considering CH7 missed it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 14, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
Oh no it's on camera! The match review will have a decent view of it as well ::) there was another head slap that went unnoticed as well, think it was Ellis or moris can't remember either way it could be looked at....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 14, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
i dont care.Slap as many of them as you can i say.We aint playing finals,so belt mofos
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 14, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
i dont care.Slap as many of them as you can i say.We aint playing finals,so belt mofos
:lol....hang on  :shh :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 15, 2012, 07:49:19 AM
Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday

Would rather derickx  browne  griffs  elton
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 15, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....

Just had a look at the replay of the incident on youtube. I wouldn't be surprised if he got off. Contact to the head was very light and the player he struck threw his head back again after the initial contact - ie there is a minor jolt back of the head upon contact, a delay, and then the Melbourne player jolts his head back again (further and more dramatically).

It's no worse than Davey's clenched strike to the throat on Ellis IMO
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 15, 2012, 09:08:48 AM
you got a link please dooks?

considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 15, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
you got a link please dooks?

considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent

Certainly do Big Al

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD3AgNa1AoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 15, 2012, 09:28:21 AM
 :cheers

doesnt seem to be much in it. from that you cant even tell if he actually made contact.

davey gave ellis at least 2 that had a bit more on them than that.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 15, 2012, 09:59:13 AM
Next time he'll use the mullet and and give him whiplash  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 15, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
:cheers

doesnt seem to be much in it. from that you cant even tell if he actually made contact.

davey gave ellis at least 2 that had a bit more on them than that.

That's my take on it all too  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 15, 2012, 10:40:09 AM
If we lose him we're stuffed.

Quite simple.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on April 15, 2012, 10:50:13 AM
...doesn't look like much (cheers for the link too Al)...I'd prefer to refer to it as a "My PIMP hand is strong!!" type of action... :)

most impressive thing about big Anna-Ivanavic is that even when down early he stills continues to fight, make contests, throw his body around and ruck like he wants to/means to...big step up and though not a dominant ruck ala Sandi or Cox is def providing better value than our younger rucks were AND on the plus side, this gives Browne, Gus, Tommy D etc time to grow into big bodies, develop against VFL sides and get some confidence up...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 15, 2012, 11:17:48 AM
you got a link please dooks?

considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent

Certainly do Big Al

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD3AgNa1AoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Going slightly OT, there is another link that deserves a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXXM_JZg8_M&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXXM_JZg8_M&feature=related)

As the intro says, imagine what its going to be like when we win our next flag.   :gotigers

Any OER posters get their ugly mug in this vid?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 15, 2012, 07:02:42 PM
Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....

Just had a look at the replay of the incident on youtube. I wouldn't be surprised if he got off. Contact to the head was very light and the player he struck threw his head back again after the initial contact - ie there is a minor jolt back of the head upon contact, a delay, and then the Melbourne player jolts his head back again (further and more dramatically).

It's no worse than Davey's clenched strike to the throat on Ellis IMO



Are u serious? He touchednhis hair!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 22, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Validating his recruitment with every game. Big Ivan was very good today and worked tirelessly all game in the ruck.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 22, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 22, 2012, 06:48:37 PM
The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.

We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles.  Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 22, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
gee we have found a ruckman here.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 22, 2012, 08:30:33 PM
The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.

We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles.  Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.

Nip we need to drop the 3 tall fwd line and go with twin talls, run them off their feet. 3 talls don't work!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 22, 2012, 08:36:05 PM
The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.

We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles.  Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.

Nip we need to drop the 3 tall fwd line and go with twin talls, run them off their feet. 3 talls don't work!

I meant play Griff in defence and Elton in as a sub.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on April 22, 2012, 08:37:06 PM
Maric needs to go, he has stuffed this team.

Graham to ruck this week.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 22, 2012, 09:22:23 PM
gee we have found a ruckman here.

 :thumbsup

Not so much that but a competitor in the ruck position.

Helps the team so much. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on April 29, 2012, 06:34:11 PM
I have to say the crows have given us a bloody ripper i hope he wins the jack dyer medal . love the way he plays even when outclassed he is still classy which makes no sense at all mwahaha
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 29, 2012, 06:59:03 PM
I have to say the crows have given us a bloody ripper i hope he wins the jack dyer medal . love the way he plays even when outclassed he is still classy which makes no sense at all mwahaha

Hat I loved most about Maric today is once Nic Nat started o get on top he adjusted accordingly to restrict his run up. Natanui was brilliant today but I thought Maric gave a good honest contest wher others would have just given up......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on April 29, 2012, 07:08:51 PM
Was stunning. Immense and from big Ivan
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 29, 2012, 07:30:11 PM
Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on April 29, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
Graham played today and we win.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on April 29, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
Played a great game for a battler. Helped out the defenders a number of times
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 29, 2012, 08:38:43 PM
Was fantastic today and uses the ball well. His field kicking is more than solid.
We wanted a competitive ruckman and we got a beast. Plays his guts out.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on April 29, 2012, 08:40:03 PM
Mullet-Man stuffing Rocks!!

Big fan.

Yebemti westcoact,Ivan!!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: hyperlite on April 29, 2012, 08:45:36 PM
Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC

^^^THIS!

The effort he puts in is phenomenal. Loved his taps over the back of his head to our mids in the centre bounces today.  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 30, 2012, 02:57:11 AM
Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC

Yes its very odd.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on April 30, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
Took some strong grabs. Played a great game. A real competitor.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2012, 07:23:30 PM
VIDEO: We speak to Ivan Maric on his return to Adelaide ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/446707/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 06, 2012, 05:53:49 PM
Awesome game from big Evan. BOG for mine. 46 hitouts, 20 possies and 5 marks  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 06, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Awesome game from big Evan. BOG for mine. 46 hitouts, 20 possies and 5 marks  :thumbsup.

Yep huge game from the Mullet Man
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on May 06, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
My man love for the big fella grows, he just  keeps trying  works his backside off.
Would have to be in the top 3  in b&f atm
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 06, 2012, 06:02:21 PM
very impressive game from the big fella  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 06, 2012, 06:03:28 PM
Has been one of our better trades.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 06:03:45 PM
Been good.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 06, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
Competes and has ticker. All we want in a ruckman. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 06, 2012, 06:38:45 PM
another moneyball type trade that fills a role and came cheap, yet received much derision at the time from many on the interweb
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 06, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
Hartley's Hits:

Grigg
Houli
Maric

Cameron's Crumpets:

Morton
Thomson
Kingsley
A.Maric
Miller  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 06:50:23 PM
LMAO I don't like Helmut but Kingsley was a Miller/Wallet special
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 06, 2012, 06:53:07 PM
Word is he rang that one in from his old desk  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 06:53:46 PM
:shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 06, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
Sheesh this guy was a good get, i knew very little of this fella and i dont hink i was alone, full credit to blair hartley, this guy is a dead set slueth when it comes to picking up smokies :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 06, 2012, 06:59:52 PM
Hartley done really well with Maric. Houli and Grigg ok - as the great Jack Dyer would have said good ordinary players but Maric is very good. Well done to Hartley. I was critical of him at the start but if he starts producing trades like Maric then Ill pay him due credit.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 06, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
This guy has been more than just good....we even saw glimpses of benny Gale today,dropping pack and picking off marks at will
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 07:08:57 PM
pretty sure he lives down back. the other ruckman haven't followed him down
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on May 06, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
This guy has me bamboozled, never heard of him until we picked him up and he is a fair dinkum SUPERSTAR! Well not quite but get my drift  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 06, 2012, 07:29:33 PM
This guy has been more than just good....we even saw glimpses of benny Gale today,dropping pack and picking off marks at will

Ha, was thinkingnsame thing, benny must have had a coffee with him :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 06, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but has this guys rested on the bench at all?..he seems to go all day
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 06, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
Maric had a good game but let's put it in perspective here.....the opposition was poo.

He's done a very good job since coming over.  A massive difference when a ruckman is competative.   The sooner we get rid of the big girl Graham and the big pear browne the better we can concetrate on recruiting some real ruck talent.   
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 06, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
would think he would be in our top 5 for the JD medal at this point. i dont much credit to our past recruiting but he is a beauty

I know it was said before but he reminds me of Benny Gale

Cant see anyone else in front of him outside of Tucky, Cotch and Lids.



Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 06, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)

 :lol

Oh DEAr !

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 06, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
The people's mullet
By Harry Thring
afl.com.au
7:55 PM Sun 06 May, 2012


RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has labelled iconic ruckman Ivan Maric a "star", after a career-best 46 hit-outs from the former Crow led the Tigers to a 37-point victory at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.

Maric has become a cult figure since joining the Tigers at the end of 2011, largely due to his flowing mullet. But hairstyle aside, Maric was brilliant in terrible conditions, managing five clearances, three inside 50's and 20 disposals to go with his tremendous effort in the ruck.

"He's been a star," Hardwick said.

"He's been a high-calibre person, what he's delivering on the field is high calibre also.

"He's been a very good player for us."

Hardwick said the 200cm giant was settling nicely into life as a Tiger, but he isn't a fan of Maric's mullet.

"He's a guy who's starting to understand our system, what's required of him, he gets the ball from A to B and he's been a real plus for us this year," he said.

"He's still got some areas of his game that he can work on, mainly his hair."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/135039/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 06, 2012, 08:30:11 PM
same can be said for people who claimed on here that Tambling, Connors, Edwards would be stars

Works both ways

Maric has been great for us, not just today but in every game. Gives us a chance at every contest
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 06, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
Spot on Daniel.

He isn't Dean Cox or Aaron Sandilands but he puts everything into his ruckwork and his around the ground work and he has provided us with an opportunity for our mids to get first use.

We have been one of the top sides in centre clearances so far this year, no thanks to having a ruckman who competes all the time not just part of the time. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 06, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
I think people undersell the big man when they suggest that he is only a battler with a good work rate. He has nice hands and some football nouse.
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I think people undersell the big man when they suggest that he is only a battler with a good work rate. He has nice hands and some football nouse.
 :thumbsup

Yes nice hands. Only an average ruckman compared to others however. Tell you what, if the sub rule got stuffed off then we'd be going alright with Maric and Beef.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 06, 2012, 11:20:05 PM
Mark Viduka bought him a boat  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on May 06, 2012, 11:31:25 PM
Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.

Play Gus.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 06, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.

Play Gus.

Stop trolling.

Gus for Vickery is the only way he gets back in.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 06, 2012, 11:47:41 PM
Snip! Stick to the topic ppl!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 07, 2012, 06:39:02 AM
Maric was very good yesterday. His defensive work was outstanding. In a game where you needed the ruck to be dominant he did that. Maric was one of the few who had a good third quarter.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on May 07, 2012, 10:06:34 AM
Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.

Play Gus.

Stop trolling.

Gus for Vickery is the only way he gets back in.

This is what happens when Anne Sullivan leaves him alone to long
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 07, 2012, 12:39:50 PM
VIDEO: A highlights package of the mullet from yesterday..and the man attached to it

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/447165/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 07, 2012, 07:45:07 PM
Robbo on the Herald-Sun website has big Ivan as recruit of the year so he's on board...

1. Ivan Maric
Forget cult hero status, forget the mullet, the Tigers big man is the genuine article as a footballer. Against Brent Renouf, who admittedly is not Simon Madden, Maric forged career-highs in possessions (20) and hitouts (46). He is a contagious footballer, in the sense that his character and enthusiasm overwhelms his lack of silk, and his teammates just love his competitive nature.

Recruit of the year? Don't know if such an award exists but Josh Hill and Tigers ruckman Maric would be the contenders.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 07, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
Not to tarnish this thread, but just quickly... Is Josh Hill the lazy prique from the doggies who wouldnt put his hands up whilst on the mark??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 10, 2012, 02:55:34 PM
Best mates with Chris Knights

who is out of contract and a restricted free agent end of this year

just sayin

injury prone HFF anyone?

CC says yessssssss  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 10, 2012, 03:07:54 PM
Best mates with Chris Knights

who is out of contract and a restricted free agent end of this year

just sayin

injury prone HFF anyone?

CC says yessssssss  :shh
I agree. As I already stated in another thread we should target knights. He knows where the goals are and he has no trouble finding the ball. It'll be great to cheer on a knights again.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 10, 2012, 03:12:48 PM
cool. i was prepared to totally overlook his poor disposal as well so he can take the heat off edwards  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 12, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
Maric is becoming one of the best recruits we've picked up in decades. Another 17 possies and 28 hitouts  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 12, 2012, 09:57:46 PM
Has nothing on Stafford but it looks like Maric will be available for selection more often than Staff ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on May 12, 2012, 10:03:36 PM
Well done Richmond.
You only stumbled along like fools for a decade,refusing to acknowledge the fact-"No RUCK-no team." :shh

The BEEFCAKE IS DEAD-LONG LIVE THE SLAV!!!!!

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on May 12, 2012, 10:07:51 PM
marz will kill
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on May 12, 2012, 10:09:21 PM
He's got a mullet and he's ƒucking grouse.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on May 12, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
Have you seen how flicks it sideways into the opposition ruckmans eyes when he goes up for the ball, stuffing brilliant and totally legal.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 12, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
I seen someone touch his mullet whilst taking a hanger over him today, should've dropped the prick for that!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on May 13, 2012, 02:20:52 AM
He's here,his name is Ivan the pitchku and he wants to play with the boys.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 13, 2012, 07:27:45 AM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)

 :lol

Oh DEAr !

LMAO no wonder they sacked him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on May 13, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)

 :lol

Oh DEAr !

LMAO no wonder they sacked him

not Jack's best post.

let's hope we have many more opportunities to re-quote this clanger

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 13, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
gold and proves what i have always said, only jackstar believes his own waffle, and we all know he does not know a damn thing but posts things trying to make us believe he knows it all
class one knob
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 13, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
another good game from Maric. Seaby was destroyed
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 13, 2012, 10:44:57 AM
The thing that amazed me yesterday was that this bloke only had very limited rest time,more or less rucked alone all day and was one of our better players to boot.
And one other thing i love about this bloke is his second and third efforts,he's prepared to scrap for the ball in the clinches
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2012, 10:51:06 AM
He's as good as Stafford. Coach has NFI
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 13, 2012, 11:03:56 AM
I have to agree with the pickled cucumber the cro is as good as stafford.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: blaisee on May 13, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
why on earth are we looking at getting players from  a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.

Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)


Oh dear

Jack has disappeared again

 :lol

Oh DEAr !

LMAO no wonder they sacked him

not Jack's best post.

let's hope we have many more opportunities to re-quote this clanger

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 13, 2012, 11:56:19 AM
Imagine if we had another ruck man of the same ilk, like NicNat/Cox...... :santa

One more ruck man next year and game on..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 13, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
I don't buy the "he's just a battler" bs

He's got serious game
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 13, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
I don't buy the "he's just a battler" bs

He's got serious game
I agree TM. He has a good all-round game and  is a magnificent team-mate who constantly protects our mids.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 13, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
agree good as Stafford. His goal was fantastic too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 13, 2012, 12:53:26 PM
with all due respect to staff,from what i have seen so far this guy is streets ahead of stafford(i mean richmond staff not swans staff)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 03:26:47 PM
You guys need to watch more games from Stafford's time. Let's remember for quite a while he had Tim Flemming and Aaron Fiora at his feet, not Martin, Chimp etc. Maric is a lot better than what I thought he would be. When he starts kicking 20-30 goals a season maybe he'll be as good as Staff was.

All you guys taking pot shots at Jack should pull your heads in. I don't recall everyone being on the Maric bandwagon when we were trading away a pick for him. He has been good though. Big test this week against some good rucks
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 13, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
Staff and maric play different styles too. besides their ruck work, staff was a good target up forward who would take grabs and kick goals, whereas maric is good at dropping back and helping the defenders out.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 03:57:48 PM
Stafford did that as well.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 03:58:16 PM
He also broke people's jaws and didn't get suspended. Maric will need to start doing this.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 13, 2012, 04:27:58 PM
Stafford was in decline as a ruckman when he came to us, was still a valuable fwd target
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 13, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
scarey eyes on the guy when close to the boundry, should have a acting career in scarey movie or scream when footy career is over  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2012, 04:55:56 PM
Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy

Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on May 13, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy

Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves

Coach approves?

WGAF?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 05:23:13 PM
Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy

Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves

Coach approves?

WGAF?

And you think we care if you vote for Brett Deledio in next years favourite player game?

Why don't you go put some poor kid on rubbish duty.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on May 13, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy

Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves

Coach approves?

WGAF?

And you think we care if you vote for Brett Deledio in next years favourite player game?

Why don't you go put some poor kid on rubbish duty.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
Not sure he will get to 20, gg.

Will go close. Learn to read FFS

Coach approves?

WGAF?

This
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 06:01:13 PM
Well what is close? Will he kick 17? Put your tight nutsack on the line and tell us.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2012, 06:11:24 PM
I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20

FFS
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 13, 2012, 06:16:36 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 13, 2012, 11:06:55 PM
Anyway back to the topic ...

Apart from his ruckwork and contesting around the ground, one other thing Ivan brings is the blocking and screening our midfielders missed out on before he arrived. He just has the awareness to plonk his huge frame in the right spot around the ground so the mids can feed off him and gain a break from their direct opponent.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on May 13, 2012, 11:27:41 PM
Imagine if we had another ruck man of the same ilk, like NicNat/Cox...... :santa

One more ruck man next year and game on..

god forbid
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on May 13, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
We already have one.  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on May 14, 2012, 12:17:49 PM
I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20

FFS
Close to 20 could be 21  :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 14, 2012, 04:05:29 PM
I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20

FFS
Close to 20 could be 21  :rollin

:clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 14, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
I'll give both you nitwits another clue

Going close to is not getting to or going over

FFS
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 14, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
Pull your head in. People are looking for quality Maric talk...they don't need to wade through this.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 14, 2012, 06:07:32 PM
Mods  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on May 14, 2012, 07:25:06 PM
Yes?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 14, 2012, 08:20:23 PM
Yes?

Who??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on May 14, 2012, 08:21:42 PM
Back on topic, can we please get Maric out and bring Beefy in this week?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 15, 2012, 12:45:22 AM
beefy was red carded thank god 4 that
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 15, 2012, 12:51:07 AM
No he wasn't
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 15, 2012, 07:05:35 AM
if we r talking about angus he was red carded and sent off the ground
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 15, 2012, 08:13:12 AM
if we r talking about angus he was red carded and sent off the ground

Yep Gus faces the AFL tribunal tonight as does BrownE...

Gus is in strife
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 16, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
I heard this guy was no good and said so on this site. I now humbly apologise, he has been gr8 for us this year.
He has made a huge difference to our structure so big ticks for Ivan and the recruiters. Well done.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 16, 2012, 06:29:47 PM
Good stuff Mint.

I owe Tuck an apology I didn't think he could play a part in our side a couple of years ago and have been proven wrong.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 16, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
Mint so far hes been unbelievable for us.however i wouldnt lose any sleep about getting it wrong.I think many of us here had doubts about recruiting a player who was 25 and couldnt crack it for a game with the crows who werent exactly setting the world on fire last year....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 16, 2012, 06:50:11 PM
ya know I can honestly say I knew nothing of this fella other than his name, i wouldnt have recognised him from sammy davis junior if I bumped into him in the street. However I stopped short of damning the decision, coz no-one really could tell. any boofhead would tell you that the likes of darren jolly showed nothing until mid 20s, evaaan is another cab off the rank :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 16, 2012, 06:53:55 PM
hang on a minute..If sammy davis junior rocked up to the club one fine summers day,you would more than likely think hes a draftee?...lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 16, 2012, 07:13:41 PM
hang on a minute..If sammy davis junior rocked up to the club one fine summers day,you would more than likely think hes a draftee?...lol

FFS if Sammy Davis Junior rocked up at the club the earth would have come to an end! The guy has been dead for years!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 16, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on May 16, 2012, 07:20:46 PM
lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
Well We do have Dustin "Dean" Martin.  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 16, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
Well We do have Dustin "Dean" Martin.  ;D

Lol i like that  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 16, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
Sorry to daniel jackson.

I thought he lacked footy smarts and was a shoody kick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 16, 2012, 07:28:53 PM
and that hot gospeller ..angus "billy graham"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 16, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
On behalf of WAT, i'd like to apologize to Shane Edwards. After re-watching the replay against the swans (thrice. FACT) WAT has finally gained an appreciation for Shane's magic toes and sparkling eyes. Sozzle, Shedzy.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 16, 2012, 07:35:18 PM
On behalf of WAT, i'd like to apologize to Shane Edwards. After re-watching the replay against the swans (thrice. FACT) WAT has finally gained an appreciation for Shane's magic toes and sparkling eyes. Sozzle, Shedzy.

On my behalf.......don't think so.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 16, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 16, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 16, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
Edwardd is fast has upside and good balance and agility.

Not far to judge him as a sub
Might come good.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 16, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
he wasn't sub on the w/e??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 16, 2012, 08:41:53 PM
My bad maybr just rubbish :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 16, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
ya know I can honestly say I knew nothing of this fella other than his name, i wouldnt have recognised him from sammy davis junior if I bumped into him in the street. However I stopped short of damning the decision, coz no-one really could tell. any boofhead would tell you that the likes of darren jolly showed nothing until mid 20s, evaaan is another cab off the rank :shh

Sammy Davis Jnr, Whoa Bo Jo, get me a shovel and hire me a grave digger!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on May 19, 2012, 11:44:25 PM
The man love for the big fella  just is immense he has well and truly held his own against the bombers talented ruckmen
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 19, 2012, 11:46:09 PM
would love to see him win our best and fairest if he keeps it up.

He is more than a good competetitor, IMO he is in AA form.

Seems a real good bloke too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on May 19, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
Ivan is a legend, he is awesome stuffing!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 19, 2012, 11:48:34 PM
Disagree, he's making our supporters look like red neck bogans! The mullet must go and we must move on immediately! Yes he can play but gee whiz.......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on May 19, 2012, 11:53:56 PM
I say perm it and wear a fishnet top, hell huck in some kung fu slippers to complete the statement.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 19, 2012, 11:55:41 PM
Just platt the phucking thing and get on with it!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 20, 2012, 12:57:56 AM
I say perm it and wear a fishnet top, hell huck in some kung fu slippers to complete the statement.
:lol :thatsgold
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 20, 2012, 12:59:57 AM
Only lost by 2 HO to the best ruckmen in the comp.  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 20, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
Only lost by 2 HO to the best ruckmen in the comp.  :lol

The plural "ruckmen" being the critical part in this statement.  Maric has exceeded all my expectations by a long long way thus far.   :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 20, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
he is awesome stuffing!

I think i prefer regular stuffing in my roast Chicken thank you owl, you weirdo.

Ivan is a gun.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2012, 09:31:47 PM
going by his stats (which is what most of us had to go on) he was barely better than Graham. In fact his stats were not better. by stuff has he been good though. wouldn't be surprised if he needs a rest later in the year. aboslute workhorse this lad
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 20, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
going by his stats (which is what most of us had to go on) he was barely better than Graham. In fact his stats were not better. by stuff has he been good though. wouldn't be surprised if he needs a rest later in the year. aboslute workhorse this lad

I don't believe that. 22 possys, 9 marks.
 You should be banned from this forum for even mentioning Maric and Graham in the same breath. Maric is everything you want in a player
Gutsy, competitive and importantly can play the game

Would love to see him win AA selection. Can't see anyone ahead of him, Cox aside
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 20, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Relax Tiger
A simple I meant prior to getting drafted would've been sufficient

Apology accepted bud
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
Relax Tiger
A simple I meant prior to getting drafted would've been sufficient

Apology accepted bud

'you'd think someone would have enough common sense....'

thought for sure I'd grab a nibble. :(

and he didn't get drafted, danielle  :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 20, 2012, 11:19:12 PM
graham could not even take a pack mark or throw his body in

maric poos all over graham and impacts on games , graham is a waste
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
But more importantly, how is Richie Tambling going?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mat073 on May 21, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Best thing to happen to the Tigers in a very long time.
Well done to Richmond for convincing the opposition that Maric was just an "honest plodder" for so long....the jig is up now.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 21, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
Almost give tambling a game in the forward pocket if he were still around.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 21, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Another tick for Matt Hornsby's homework. His statistically analysis of every player in the league over every round gives the club a much better understanding of a players worth than any of shallow stats we are feed. When Maric expressed interest in moving, we knew what he was capable of.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 21, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
Matt Hornsby is a glorified fitness instructor

You're thinking of Blair Hartley
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 21, 2012, 03:01:09 PM
Matt Hornsby is a glorified fitness instructor

You're thinking of Blair Hartley

That's twice in two threads of done that.  :banghead  Sorry  :-[
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2012, 05:08:28 PM
How good is he going.

Great game yet again by the big fella
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 26, 2012, 05:10:06 PM
In AA form ATM :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 26, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
Shows real leadership when we need it. Going real good is the Cro.  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 26, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
no he is crap, graham is better

lmao

nuffers fo
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2012, 05:13:15 PM
no he is crap, graham is better

lmao

nuffers fo

Agree, jackster and i are right behind u there, he is crap
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 26, 2012, 05:14:19 PM
who dont know him, im not on his buddy list lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 26, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.

ask any adelaide supporter  they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.

as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on May 26, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.

ask any adelaide supporter  they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.

as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.


Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?

He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on May 26, 2012, 06:13:57 PM
We have 3 players from other teams in our top 22 now but I think Maric is the best pick up of the lot.  Apart form these three how long since we got any decent players from other teams? Stafford ? Brodrick ? Name a few ????? Cousins lol (not sure you can count him as from another team)

Loving the Mullet and so must Cotch ,Lids, Martin and the rest of the midfield.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 26, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
love the way he blocks and uses his frame and takes marks

gus is a toss and must never be seen again
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 26, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.

ask any adelaide supporter  they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.

as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.


Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?

He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
what left your glasses behind somehere. i ssaid he will be around for 4 or 5 yrs but stop and think for a minute. how long do you think it will take to develop a  ruckman to get to ivans stage. 3 yrs 4 yrs 5 yrs maybe. nope if we want his replacement we want him in our system asap. we probably should not have all the eggs in one basket and have two.
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on May 26, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
I didnt realise how much Vickery helps the side giving big Sir Mullet Ivan a spell up forward late in the third turned the game on in our favour and flattened the Hawks . Must admit it was just a joy to behold the whole team played their role perfectly
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2012, 07:40:52 PM
If Vickery can step up and play the forward/ruck role then Ivan will get that rest during games he needs and provide us with that extra avenue in our forward and defence.
If we can get a third ruckman it will only complement us further and provide insurance.
Eeevarn has been recruit of the year for us.
Blair Hartley I applaud you. :clapping :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
I really thought posters on this forum were putting too much faith and pressure on this bloke when we recruited him. I thought he would go ok and maybe be a fill in ruck man until we recruited a big name player. But sheesh I really didn't expect him to perform the way he has. All Australian form at the minute!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Right now Ivan and Jacobs are the two AA ruckmen. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 27, 2012, 12:57:31 AM
Ivan Maric stakes his claim on ruck

    Mark Hayes
    From: Sunday Herald Sun
    May 27, 2012


IN nine short weeks, Ivan Maric has gone from intriguingly mulleted sideshow to bona fide ruck god.

And from no less an inspiration than Chris Newman, it says everything about the ex-Crow that the Richmond captain said he was making a good midfield group look even better.

"He's playing his role, big Ivan, but when you run out with him, you definitely walk a little bit taller," Newman said after Maric pulverised a combination of Jarryd Roughead and David Hale in the ruck in the Tigers' 62-point caning of Hawthorn at the MCG.

Importantly, though, Maric also had 18 incisive disposals, including a goal and classy goal assist in the game's most telling five minutes late in the third term.

"He competes hard, drops back to help out in defence, gives us good use out of the middle and can sneak forward and kick a couple which is really important," Newman said.

"I love playing with him, boys love playing with him, and the supporters certainly love him.

"(In Adelaide) he always had the reputation of a bash-and-crash ruckman who thrived on contest.

"(But) he's grown an extra leg here. He's appreciative that he's been given a second opportunity and the thing I love is that he was so keen from the get-go to come over, and he saw something in the group and wanted to be a part of it."

While the recruit wanted to play selfless team football, Maric himself said his fitness was the catalyst for his starring individual form.

"I've done a full pre-season and I feel, even in the last quarter in the last few weeks, like my running is pretty strong and that I can match it with anyone in the comp," Maric said on 3AW.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/ivan-maric-stakes-his-claim-on-ruck/story-e6frf9jf-1226367861720
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 27, 2012, 01:10:31 AM
And yet u think browne derickx cant make

Wont get better over next 4 years?

Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.

ask any adelaide supporter  they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.

as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.


Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?

He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
what left your glasses behind somehere. i ssaid he will be around for 4 or 5 yrs but stop and think for a minute. how long do you think it will take to develop a  ruckman to get to ivans stage. 3 yrs 4 yrs 5 yrs maybe. nope if we want his replacement we want him in our system asap. we probably should not have all the eggs in one basket and have two.
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 27, 2012, 06:31:34 AM
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes

Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.

ask any adelaide supporter  they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.

as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.


Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?

He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
That isn't the trend at the moment. The tendency is to snatch an underperforming Ruck from another list or a minor league. I think this policy is the better way to go. Recruiting an 18 year old Ruck is too 'hit-or-miss'.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on May 27, 2012, 09:49:30 AM
"He competes hard, drops back to help out in defence, gives us good use out of the middle and can sneak forward and kick a couple which is really important" sums up Maric nicely. The goal in the third term and his goal set up were crucial. He took a great grab in the backline. Good on him. Agree need a good back up Ruckman. Hopefully Vickery develops in that regard.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on May 27, 2012, 09:49:52 AM
He has gone to #1 on my list - sorry Dusty and Cotch
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on May 27, 2012, 09:58:21 AM
amazing how he gets around, Vickery played a good role also yesterday.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on May 27, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
a commentator described him as a "shuffler" and thats what he looks like..But he's so damn effective.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 27, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
- Competes well in the ruck and around the stoppages.
- Shepherds and blocks for teammates.
- Drops into the hole and takes pack marks in defence.
- Forward line threat who can kick a goal.

 :bow :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 27, 2012, 10:57:43 PM
- Competes well in the ruck and around the stoppages.
- Shepherds and blocks for teammates.
- Drops into the hole and takes pack marks in defence.
- Forward line threat who can kick a goal.

 :bow :bow :bow :bow

he is still no good, jackstar said so and he knows it all

LMAO
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 01, 2012, 10:40:31 PM
I just want to get my signature in this thread again
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 01, 2012, 10:41:49 PM
I'm in LLLLAAAAWWWWLLLLL  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 01, 2012, 10:43:01 PM
how many brownlow votes would he have now? the mullet makes him stand out, he could be very high in the brownlow count come years end imho.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on June 02, 2012, 01:21:55 AM
He is a dead set smokey if he can keep playing to this standard for the full season .... keeps cracking the ton constantly in super coach
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 02, 2012, 04:38:47 AM
Our centre clearance work is soooooooo much better when big Ivan is in the ruck. When the Saints looked like over-running us and were winning it out of the middle in the last quarter, Dimma was smart enough to quickly get Maric back in at the centre bounces.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 02, 2012, 08:08:16 PM
 :thumbsup saw a lot of mullet wigs, 4 guys got told they weren't allowed to wear them in the Woolshed at Docklands....would Ivan be allowed in? Once again a ripper game, solid as a rock and has plenty of footy smarts. 10/10 for big Ivan
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 03, 2012, 12:32:20 AM
was not keen on useing pick 35 to get him. but have to say this bloke has been fantastic and worth every cent. if we are smart  we will target asap  a highly rated young ruckman to to take over from him in 3 or 4 yrs time. get him in the system and know hes going to be a good one.
Title: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on June 05, 2012, 02:27:42 AM
Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks

    Aaron Langmaid
    From: Herald Sun
    June 05, 2012


IT'S contemporary football's most unfashionable hairdo - but it could make rising Tiger Ivan Maric millions.

Years after the last mulleted player left the turf, the Richmond ruckman has resurrected the fashion faux pas and ignited a new brand for Tigerland.

Insiders are said to be considering merchandising Maric's long locks as the fans lap up Richmond's long awaited surge towards the finals.

Maric's scissor snub, initially a pact with former teammate Taylor Walker, could now land him lucrative sponsorships.

Experts say Maric, 26, had been making his mark on the field - but it was his increasing influence on the fabric of the club that could also be priceless for diehard supporters.

Image Group International chief executive Jon-Michail said Maric shouldn't cut his crop.

"At this point it's a winning formula, fans are loving it," Jon-Michail said.

"He has to perform on the field, but it's essential he brands himself off it. He is doing that."

Jon-Michail said that while a mullet haircut was representative of the average Aussie yobbo, Maric was anything but.

"He's the opposite," Jon-Michail said.

It was in Richmond's interests to maximise that and see how it could make hay from his popularity. Hair product deals were an obvious option but Maric's rising status could pay off for any brand willing to sign him, Jon-Michail said.

Cheer squad member Eddie Smith has been wearing a mullet wig to every game this season and says fans love what Maric has brought to the club.

Tiger fans fearing Maric might lose his mullet can relax.

"My plan is to keep it long-term," he said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/ivan-marics-mullet-set-to-bring-in-big-bucks/story-fn7x8me2-1226384022548
Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 05, 2012, 02:51:23 AM
Poor guy has to get married now with a mullet.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: gerkin greg on June 05, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
Like Brian Wilson's Beard for the SF Giants  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 05, 2012, 09:02:30 AM
Like Brian Wilson's Beard for the SF Giants  :thumbsup

AS long as big Ivan doesn't dye it jet black  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: gerkin greg on June 05, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
Instead of "Fear the Beard"

"Covet thy Mullet"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiga on June 05, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
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Title: Re: Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 05, 2012, 10:47:36 AM
Instead of "Fear the Beard"

"Covet thy Mullet"
:bow :bow :thumbsup :thumbsup

 ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 05, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
VIDEO: AFL legend Leigh Matthews wanted to sit down 1 on 1 with Ivan Maric for Channel 7, here's the video

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/456467/Matthews%20interviews%20Maric/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 05, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
His comments about getting monstered by bigger ruckmen when he was younger, and now how he wants to do the same to the younger ones, to leave them with something to think about, probably should be kept in mind in regards to our younger ruckmen.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 05, 2012, 08:05:45 PM
Just love the way he goes about his work. Has changed our midfield with his impact and is our most important player structure wise at the moment. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 05, 2012, 09:20:23 PM
cmon guys we used pick 35 to find a competetive ruckman nothing more. we got a bloody bewty but that bewty is 26.
still against useing picks like 35 on unproven players and ivan was a unproven 26 yr old one.
we need to find his replacement now. i say this knowing we will have ivan for 4 or 5 yrs maybe more maybe less. list management or good list managemet caters to depth and it caters to succession.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 05, 2012, 09:37:45 PM
Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 05, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 05, 2012, 10:57:39 PM
after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.

I thought exactly the same thing, Al. But sometimes it's just worth just not even getting involved lol.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 06, 2012, 07:53:14 AM
Claw - was browne as good as maric was at the same age?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 06, 2012, 07:55:33 AM
Maric is a dud we should have used pick 135
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 06, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price.  i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were  hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah,  thing is  i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.

yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on June 06, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price.  i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were  hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah,  thing is  i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.

yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.

But Claw, first round draft picks have also proven to be just as big a gamble. Fiora, Tambling anyone?? As others have said, if the footy dept have people with smarts, Like Hartley has, they can see through the fog of uncertainty to find that glimmer of gold.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 06, 2012, 04:13:08 PM
Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right :shh
even i was sure he would give us more than graham. still it was a qualified decision on a player who could not crack a regular game.

getting the balance between retaining good picks and trading for players has always been the problem and it is what has killed us over the yrs. taking mature players has not been the problem.

im more than happy to concede hartley got it right but as a general rule of thumb i would not want to see us useing such good picks on unproven players qualified decision or not.

if they cant get the first and second rounders right they shouldnt have a job.  we are ow going to have to go out and use a good pick on a ruckman so we can replace maric in the short term.

lets get it straight im not arguing if ivan has turned out to be a good choice he has. but i will always go mad if we are useing second rounders on players who are 26 and struggled that process has and will bite us on the arse more often than not.
list management has been that bad along with recruiting that yes we were in a diabolical situation where we had to trade for a ruckman who would be more competetive than the duds we had/have.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 06, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
they got it right and the price wasn't too high, bottom line.
Strange that it turns out that that someone who does this poo for a living gets it right and and armchair critic is wrong.

What a weird world we live in......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 06, 2012, 04:45:30 PM
How did you intend us to get mids 20s potential A grade ruck without using pick 2nd round?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 06, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
How did you intend us to get mids 20s potential A grade ruck without using pick 2nd round?
are you telling me in all honesty that you thought ivan an a grader or the club did as well. geez that is revisionism at its best. we used pick 35 on a bloke whos form line spelled average at best but an upgrade on what we had.
exactly how many of you thought ivan an a grade player before we drafted him.

they got it right and the price wasn't too high, bottom line.
Strange that it turns out that that someone who does this poo for a living gets it right and and armchair critic is wrong.

What a weird world we live in......

who got anything wrong i havent said we should not have given ivan a try was all for getting a mature ruckman any ruckman as long as he was better than graham now lets face it that was not going to be hard to do.

not much you can say that will make me change my thinking. 2nd rounders on unproven inconsistent players who are usurped by all and sundry is a process that i would not like to see us go thru too often.

i sometimes wonder if you lot have learnt anything at all from the frawley wallace days.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 06, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
so funny, blair hartly got it right, but we havnt learned anything from the wallace frawly days.

It doesnt matter what your uniformed opinion was at the time, the club had a process that set a value on ivan. they started their bidding at that value and got their man...at that value.

so far, from his performance they have been vindicated, yet in your narcisstic manner you still think it was a mistake because it differed from your opinion on him at the time.

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 06, 2012, 05:50:22 PM
I really don't even know what it is Bore Claw is trying to argue anymore.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-38Or80_CcWg/T2GKmR2YIBI/AAAAAAAAJwE/K2jN2vtuex8/s1600/618px-JeanLucPicardFacepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on June 06, 2012, 06:22:39 PM
Claw, reckon u need a spell buddy...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 06, 2012, 09:16:45 PM
yep give it up claw

and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol

maric was a steal at 35 .
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 06, 2012, 09:41:46 PM
Just gone over the draft picks twice.

Maric was worth pick 35
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 10, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
This guy has to go, cost us the game with stopping Dusty's goal.

JJ was right all along.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yandb on June 10, 2012, 08:36:38 PM
Watch the replay, you will find that Maric was infringed against by the Freo defender. He was struck in the face in the act of spoiling by the defender from front on and should have received a free kick.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 10, 2012, 09:16:06 PM
he has gotta go hes a dud
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2012, 09:43:42 PM
yep give it up claw

and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol

maric was a steal at 35 .
was he well i suppose he was. as it panned out.
isnt it ironic one gets accused of useing hindsight all the time yet here are posters useing hindsight to say ivan was a sure thing.
nothing could be further from the truth.

nope its not about ivan per say. we are talking the process here and giving up 2nd rnd picks for 26 yr olds who had it all to prove is not for me. again on this one they got it right but its not the process i would like to see them regularly go thru. this will change.

a question would people be happy if we gave up pick 33 for renouf which is what port did he had performed just as well as big ivan before being traded but is still no better than when he was at hawthorn. thing is he is younger.

people think im having a go at ivan im not im over the moon we got him, i think hes played out of his skin far far better than anything hes offered up in previous yrs.

 thing is  i value 2nd rnd picks and if you are going to trade em away they had better be  sure things at 26 yrs of age. and not just on someone who fills a need who may be marginally better on what you have. just the fact we traded out of 2nd rounder a pick that should net a good long term player should be a concern to all.  yet alone use it on a 26 yr old who still had it all in front of him to prove himself.

ah well once again i disagree with most about processes and just how well we have done. to me ivan was a desperation trade in the end. for once it seems it panned out in our favor.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: HKTiger on June 10, 2012, 10:04:13 PM
yep give it up claw

and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol

maric was a steal at 35 .
........

ah well once again i disagree with most about processes and just how well we have done. to me ivan was a desperation trade in the end. for once it seems it panned out in our favor.

Professionals doing a professional job and getting it right.  Shouldn't that be a tick for the process ?  So the process works and you still can't or wont acknowledge it.  The evidence is that the process has worked for 2 years now (Grigg, Houli, Morris and Maric) and yet you still beat some time to some old drum.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 10, 2012, 10:12:37 PM
Some people are just not going to be happy and even when something works they want to bring up the past and belittle it.

It's the same story over and over again and we'll get the Francis Jackson 2005 picks and all that up until now and how and what and why. The message is wearing thin.

Some people just don't feel alive unless they find something to worry about, belittle something or find any reason to cling onto and call it hindsight.

Yet we are head in the sand brigade and think Jako and Nahas are guns and we'll win a flag.

It's like I'm 14 years old again, lecture after lecture after lecture.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on June 10, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
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Title: Cult hero Ivan Maric lets it flow (Adelaide Advertiser)
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2012, 03:11:59 AM
Cult hero Maric lets it flow

    Michelangelo Rucci
    From: The Advertiser
    June 30, 2012


IVAN Maric today becomes the third former Crow - among the four defectors from last spring - to return to AAMI Stadium as "the enemy".

Phil Davis, a key defender and co-captain at expansion franchise Greater Western Sydney, will have a much healthier bank balance by the end of his first season away from Adelaide.

Jack Gunston may establish himself in the Hawthorn attack - and perhaps have an AFL premiership medal to cap off his "go-home" defection from West Lakes.

Maric will have no regrets by his move to Richmond. It is a career-defining decision.

He has fulfilled his ambition to be a No. 1 ruckman. He would not have achieved this at Adelaide in the shadow of Sam Jacobs.

He has played every game at the Tigers.

Maric would not have had this record at Adelaide where playing second fiddle to Jacobs has become an intense internal race between Shaun McKernan and Essendon recruit Josh Jenkins.

Maric is a contender for the All-Australian line-up at the end of the year. He would not have been mentioned in such terms at Adelaide.

Maric and Jacobs today face each other across the centre circle at AAMI Stadium not as rivals in Crows training, but as key combatants in an AFL premiership game of high stakes, personal and team-wise.

The winner of the ruck duel takes the high ground for All-Australian selection.

The winner of the game is better-placed in the race to September's AFL finals.

Maric arrived in Adelaide as a third-round draft pick at the end of the 2004 season. At that stage the Crows had an established ruck battery with Matthew Clarke, Rhett Biglands and Ben Hudson.

Maric was in a development race with the rookie-listed Jon Griffin.

By the end of last season, Maric had outlasted them all but was still not No. 1. Clarke was in Adelaide's coaching panel, Biglands had a radio gig, Hudson was retiring at the Western Bulldogs and being called back to the AFL by Brisbane and Griffin was looking at leaving Fremantle to join Port Adelaide.

Maric felt crucified - and was outspoken - not by Adelaide's preference for Jacobs, but by the AFL's changes to the four-man interchange system. The move to a substitute among the four interchange seats sacrificed the second ruckman.

Unlike "future captain" Davis, Gunston and Tony Armstrong, who defected to Sydney, Maric is the only former Crow finding his potential as an AFL player is being fulfilled by the decision to change clubs.

He is the No. 1 at Tigerland.

Maric has numbers - and All-Australian prospects - he could have never imagined at West Lakes - not while living in Jacobs' shadow.

Maric ranks No. 2 for hit-outs with 372. Jacobs is No. 3 with 357. Melbourne ruckman Mark Jamar leads this category (418).

Maric is No. 2 for hit-outs to advantage with 100. Jacobs is No. 1 (108).

In field play, Maric today will surpass his season-high for disposals - 196 in 20 games with Adelaide in 2009. He has 193 in 12 games with Richmond this season.

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick notes Maric's hands are counting for more than hit-outs.

This stood out to Hardwick in the Dreamtime game against Essendon at a rain-soaked MCG on May 19.

"The amount of times he took a crucial mark when we needed it and used the ball well was fantastic," said Hardwick.

If Maric takes seven marks today, he will equal his season-high of 62 in 21 games in 2010 with Adelaide.

"He's been a star," adds Hardwick. "He's been a high-calibre person, what he's delivering on the field is high-calibre also.

"He's been a very good player for us."

By the time Brenton Sanderson arrived at West Lakes as Adelaide's new coach - to be well briefed on Maric's strength of character - Maric was beyond second thoughts on leaving.

"I sat down with him and I was really keen for him to stay, but his mind had already been made up," Sanderson said.

"But a door shuts and another one opens, and we've given an opportunity to Jenkins and McKernan, who have been fantastic for us at different times this season."

For the record, Maric's trade to Richmond engineered Tom Lynch's arrival from St Kilda.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/cult-hero-maric-lets-it-flow/story-e6frf9jf-1226412772305
Title: Re: Cult hero Ivan Maric lets it flow (Adelaide Advertiser)
Post by: jordie2tivendale on June 30, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Kill that tall red haired bugger  mullet man  . Red heads are terrified of the sun and  mullets :p
Title: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2012, 12:42:24 PM
Maric is out apparently Gus in
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
Maric is out apparently Gus in

Source or it didn't happen!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
Maric is out apparently Gus in

Source or it didn't happen!

Tiger land Tone on twitter
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 12:45:09 PM
Welcome back Beefy :bow :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: dwaino on July 14, 2012, 12:46:34 PM
We're screwed.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
Quote
Source is not from the club, FYI.

But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
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Source is not from the club, FYI.

But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...

Sounds like a premature adjudication to me >:(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2012, 12:52:09 PM
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Source is not from the club, FYI.

But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...

Sounds like a premature ejaculation to me >:(

Tigerland tone saying that they will be resting Ivan.

Would be stupid to do so.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
Confirmed on 3AW that Ivan Maric is OUT of the Richmond side today.

 :(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Penelope on July 14, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
oh oh, chongo!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 14, 2012, 02:26:09 PM
Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 02:29:10 PM
Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?

Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't  who do you think :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 14, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?

Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't  who do you think :wallywink
sorry mate haven't paid much attention to the team this week.

Lift! tigra, lift!  :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 02:45:52 PM
Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?

Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't  who do you think :wallywink
sorry mate haven't paid much attention to the team this week.

Lift! tigra, lift!  :banghead

lol....my post was probably a bit harsh, sorry bro...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: rfctigers05 on July 14, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
I'm starting to wobble at the knees
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 14, 2012, 02:54:06 PM
Too much estrogen in this thread
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: rfctigers05 on July 14, 2012, 02:55:51 PM
Looks like Tarzan plays like a jane is in for Maric
Rfc
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Chuck17 on July 14, 2012, 02:56:51 PM
FAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKK

CD will be wetting himself
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 14, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
FAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKK

CD will be wetting himself

He heard the news last night and is currently trying to hitch a ride up there to see it in person ;) yes he also has wet pants :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2012, 03:08:11 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
Da $kyz is fallin !!!!!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Confirmed by RFCO on twitter just now. Ivan is officially out (as is Griffiths)  :P
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Simonator on July 14, 2012, 03:40:29 PM
Do we know why Maric is out? To get a rest? Looked pretty tired against Melbourne.
I hope theyre just resting Griffiths too, better not have a niggling calf injury for the rest of the year :/
We play our best with this team and we should still smash goldcoast.. Wont be happy with under 50 points.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: TigerLand on July 14, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
Season Over.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: rogerd3 on July 14, 2012, 04:06:50 PM
griff was never gonna play.

maric interesting.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 14, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
(http://mlblogsbastian.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/panicbutton.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: bojangles17 on July 14, 2012, 04:19:29 PM
I'm starting to wobble at the knees

Who rucks for GC :huh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Bengal on July 14, 2012, 04:35:47 PM
Zac Smth
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: tony_montana on July 14, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
we've been riding Ivarn into the ground for weeks, should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
The issue with trading for a backup ruckman is its hard to sell to a player to sign for richmond and then play coburg is imaric is fit.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 14, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Can I just say, Cotchin is a freak footballer.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2012, 07:29:04 PM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Coach on July 14, 2012, 07:30:30 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: tony_montana on July 14, 2012, 07:42:23 PM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant

 :lol  easy tiger

ok maybe not Graham  ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2012, 07:53:15 PM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant

 :lol  easy tiger

ok maybe not Graham  ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma for a please explain re the poor maric man management

 :lol

Bit calmer now.

Yeah, agree with that - if Maric was getting to a point of needing a break then maybe a better plan would have been to play a 2nd ruckman as a chop out for a few weeks instead of waiting until the 11th hour and dropping him.  Derickx was never a viable option simply because he had done nothing at Coburg to suggest a senior spot was warranted.  Graham and Browne on the other hand would have been 'in form' options to try and by playing with Maric then any damage done by their inclusion would have at least been minimised.  Playing a serial offender like Graham one out was always going to be a massive risk and history shows that form to be spot on.  He is simply not ever going to make it as an AFL capable player.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Chuck17 on July 14, 2012, 10:38:39 PM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant

 :lol  easy tiger

ok maybe not Graham  ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management

Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: bojangles17 on July 14, 2012, 10:46:00 PM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant

 :lol  easy tiger

ok maybe not Graham  ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management

Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap

its anyones guess who the support act should be ...Gus is next to useless, that is Derickx :help...perhaps post should be given a shot...everyone else has had a go..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Mr Magic on July 16, 2012, 09:39:38 AM
Highlighted the magnitude of the club's transformation under the big Croat.
Rest easy big fella we need you back out there soon.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: tony_montana on July 16, 2012, 10:00:42 AM

should have brought in Gus a month earlier

Really?  If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership.  Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again.  Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool.  Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.

/rant

 :lol  easy tiger

ok maybe not Graham  ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management

Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap

so whats ur solution? run maric into the ground so  he needs a rest due to fatigue just 2 weeks after hes had a bye? Yeah thats good man management right there

We dont have much, but you make do with what youve got. You rotate brown, derickx, graham and post through there to give Maric a much needed chop out until one of them can stand up. If they dont, then we wear it on the chin bc we simply dont have the cattle - you dont run someone into the ground when you have options at coburg, look after your prized assets. Hello Jack Reiwoldt, taken him half a season to be able to start running out games with multiple leads, but no 5 off season ops didnt hurt him one iota.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric out
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 16, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
Is he playing against Norf/n0rt ??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on July 28, 2012, 06:45:58 AM
FWIW, there is merit both ways.
I guess The Claw is saying in principle that he wouldn't want to risk a second round pick every year on an unproven 26 yo player from another club and the opposing view was hey it worked, play on claw all is good in the world.

I think Hartley has earned the right for us to assume he knows more about any player than us and that recruiting or trading principles can be over turned with a fact based case to justify it.

History has proven that time and again.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 28, 2012, 07:12:06 AM
FWIW, there is merit both ways.
I guess The Claw is saying in principle that he wouldn't want to risk a second round pick every year on an unproven 26 yo player from another club and the opposing view was hey it worked, play on claw all is good in the world.

I think Hartley has earned the right for us to assume he knows more about any player than us and that recruiting or trading principles can be over turned with a fact based case to justify it.

History has proven that time and again.

Wash your mouth out Y&B.  History has proved time and again that us on OER know more than anyone else in the footballing world about everything - just ask us!    ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 28, 2012, 08:00:24 AM
beat me to it smokey  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Simonator on July 28, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
Rumours he will be a late withdrawal. Sure hope not, we wont stand a chance against them with graham
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on July 28, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Smokey is gonna poo his pants :lol

Can't wait until we belt these blokes. We should be beating them with Bill Nicholls in the ruck TBH
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 28, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
Smokey is gonna poo his pants :lol

Can't wait until we belt these blokes. We should be beating them with Bill Nicholls in the ruck TBH

 :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on July 28, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 28, 2012, 02:52:48 PM
If this rumour is true then Carlton will be forced to make 1 change.  Betts will go into the ruck to free up Kruezer around the ground.   :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 28, 2012, 02:54:15 PM
Think you will find Betts will be sub and Geoffy will be promoted to ruck....just saying.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on July 28, 2012, 04:48:55 PM
Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 28, 2012, 04:52:54 PM
Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead

Not fom the ench he won't  ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on July 28, 2012, 05:28:50 PM
Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead

Not fom the ench he won't  ;)

Is he dead set the sub??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 28, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead

Not fom the ench he won't  ;)

Is he dead set the sub??

Maybe ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2012, 06:39:08 PM
Ivan is playing  :thumbsup. Apparently Gerard Healy was spreading the rumour today that big Ivan was going to miss  :wallywink.

Betts in Carlton's starting 18 as well.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2012, 06:56:50 PM
Ivan got engaged to his girlfriend Erin during the week  :clapping.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on July 28, 2012, 07:34:53 PM
Ivan got engaged to his girlfriend Erin during the week  :clapping.

No wonder his groin is a bit sore.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 28, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 28, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
Tried his guts out all night, great effort
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 28, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
Tried hard yes but Kruezer beat him on the night.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on July 28, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
Big Ivan cotchin tuck and morris as far as hunger goes need  to   look at their genetic makeup and recruit likewise rest  have the heart of a frozen chicken
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 28, 2012, 11:51:52 PM
Big Ivan cotchin tuck and morris as far as hunger goes need  to   look at their genetic makeup and recruit likewise rest  have the heart of a frozen chicken

Funny, I mentioned something similiar to a friend tonight...

If any game was going to be THE one to win, that was it. "Break the hoodoo" stuff k carlton
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on July 29, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Tried hard yes but Kruezer beat him on the night.
lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 29, 2012, 12:21:00 AM
Save him for 2013. In for an op.

Bring back Ty Esler, David Honybun, Robert Schaefer, Steven McKee and Trent Knobel to each play a game in the five week good will ruckman tour.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 29, 2012, 12:30:02 AM
replace Jack Dyers statue with one of the big Cro !!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on July 29, 2012, 02:01:41 AM
yep lowered his colours tonight but he competes and thats what we got him for.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 29, 2012, 02:04:26 AM
put the big man out to pasture, dont want his groin to degenerate to chronic levels. Rest up and be ready for day 1 of preseason
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 29, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
to do that spells a lot of pain and misery for the rest of the season.

are people ready to take that medicine?

I dont think so.......

unless they truly prefer to get beaten easily than losing close games.............
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 29, 2012, 09:22:17 AM
to do that spells a lot of pain and misery for the rest of the season.

are people ready to take that medicine?

I dont think so.......

unless they truly prefer to get beaten easily than losing close games.............

Its been season over for weeks, if people would prefer to risk Ivan long term for a few meaningless dead rubbers then wow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 29, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?

I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.

There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on July 29, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?

I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.

There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.

100% right it would be a little girl biatchathon
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 29, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Unco > soft
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 29, 2012, 10:46:38 AM
would prefer to see Ivan play out the season,however i fear we have worn the big fella into the ground ,purely because he has had very limited help in the ruck.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 29, 2012, 10:50:17 AM
all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?

I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.

There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.

The club shouldnt be making decisions based on whether the supporter will bitch or not, it should be purely based on what is good for the club long term.

*not saying they do make decisions based on what the supporters will say,  - well poo i hope they dont
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 29, 2012, 10:55:52 AM
thats not what i'm saying tony.

if the club put ivan out to pasture, or generally put the cue in the rack, would you and any other supporter asking for this, also put the cue in the rack.

would you say, ok because we have taken this action i understand it greatly inceases our chance of some large losses and accept it when it happens.

or, would the moaning and bitching continue even though you got what you asked for?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 29, 2012, 11:04:25 AM
thats not what i'm saying tony.

if the club put ivan out to pasture, or generally put the cue in the rack, would you and any other supporter asking for this, also put the cue in the rack.

would you say, ok because we have taken this action i understand it greatly inceases our chance of some large losses and accept it when it happens.

or, would the moaning and bitching continue even though you got what you asked for?

what do u think mate? what have I been saying in the last few posts?

as for other supporters, yeah a fair few of them would be crying out for an execution, stiff poo, ppl must understand the implications of potentially ruining Ivans long term capabilities. And before anybody mentions they medical staff know what they're doing stuff off  :wallywink
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 29, 2012, 11:12:25 AM
sorry tony, but i cant see where you have answered the question in the last few posts, but I gather you are saying that you do understand and accept the short term consequence of what you ask for.

not necessarily aimed at you, but I notice that many of the posters who ask for the cue to go in the rack or to play kids that arent really ready and will give very little output onfield in the short term, seem to also be those that make the most noise when we loose. No consideration is given to the circumstances at all, just the simple fact we lost sends them off the deep end, yet they ask for things to happen that potentially ensure we will continue to lose, and perhaps lose worse than we have been.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 29, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
Thats fine al,

yeah there are some of those, but wgaf? club needs to do the right thing by the player, the team and the supporters by looking after their assets, not like they did with Jack last season.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on July 29, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?

I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.

There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
if ivans injured and it can degenerate we should put him in moth balls.

time to play elton and derickx forward with jack. time to get a few more games into browne and see if hes improved at the level or not. time to leave ohanlon in the team, and its time to play adam maric for the rest of the yr. its time to get astbury into the team down back if hes fit.

it is time to drop long term underachievers who have no part in our future.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on July 29, 2012, 12:43:27 PM
I'm all for wrapping up Maric, but that means Graham comes in. I'm going to puke if that twit ever runs on again. Wouldn't mind seein where Browne is at but I assume not far since he can't even crack the emergencies and gets thrown in the magoo twos.  :'(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 29, 2012, 12:52:20 PM
Maric in cotton will.

Play Browne for the rest of the year.

Graham is contracted next year so whether he plays or not is academic as unless he is traded or we let Dan Connors near him and he misses training then he's here for 2013 lamentably.

The way I see it let Browne ruck in the last five games regardless as he aint contracted beyond this season just to determine whether the kid can cut the mustard so as we can make a more clear cut decision on his future.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on July 29, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
The fact that some people have even the slightest hope in Browne is indicative of our
state of delusion
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on July 29, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
The fact that some people have even the slightest hope in Browne is indicative of our
state of delusion

LOl Yep only slightly better than the KICP
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 29, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
I didnt think kreuzer beat him at all.thought big Ivan more than held his own
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on July 29, 2012, 07:15:49 PM
Wrap him up now and see if someone can put their hand up!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 05, 2012, 03:22:27 AM
Hopefully big Ivan moving about more freely last night is a sign that he is getting over that groin injury he's been nursing through the second half of the season.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 05, 2012, 09:10:27 AM
Back on topic, can we please get Maric out and bring Beefy in this week?

X 2
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on August 05, 2012, 10:34:01 AM
Did our season go with Foley or Ivans Groin starting to wonder
Was great again last night  that Cotchin rove from the tap was gold
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on August 05, 2012, 10:37:37 AM
This bloke is an absolute Star. Best mature recruit to the RFC for as long as I can remember - and that's a long time.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: cub on August 05, 2012, 10:41:14 AM
I'm really worried about him getting a haircut next year! Seriously not joking!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 05, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Best trade we have ever done.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on August 05, 2012, 12:50:23 PM
i love this man.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 05, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
$5 on the nose for B&F
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on August 05, 2012, 02:12:18 PM
Dominant ruck display. Great goal too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 05, 2012, 02:19:46 PM
i have to put my hand up and say i did not want to use pick 35 on this bloke. hes been a still at that pick to date.

i firmly believe we have to find his replacement this nd or the following one. 27 in january means we may only get 3 maybe 4 good yrs out of ivan and we need to be getting his eventual replacement up to speed now that mat take 4 or 5 seasons.always think long term.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 05, 2012, 03:04:43 PM
Agree Claw and whilst Vickery can play in the forward line and give a chop out in the ruck we need to either trade for a second string ruckman or bring Browne in to see what he can provide.

I'd say someone of the ilk of Renouf whilst no world beater would just do a job that at worst would still be better than Graham's best.

Even so we have lumbering ruckmen atm with Ivan and Browne and Vickery is your mobile option I would say another mobile ruckman might be the go.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: rfctigers05 on August 05, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
The great man needs assistance
Gelded Gus  no help
Bo Derrickx a chance
Brown we lose every where else on the ground bc of speed differentiation
The Tyronosuarus is still young and in development
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on August 05, 2012, 07:12:46 PM
I actually think a fit Vicks would provide the help Ivan needs .so i would hold off recruiting another mature age ruckman ,but would rather draft a promising youngster.But i would certainly ditch Gus and derriks.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on August 05, 2012, 07:38:46 PM
This bloke is an absolute Star. Best mature recruit to the RFC for as long as I can remember - and that's a long time.

Maxwell said on AFL Game Day on 7 that one of the 3 things he learnt watching Giants v Port was that Giles was the best recruit of the year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 06, 2012, 02:20:56 AM
In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 06, 2012, 07:48:24 AM
In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.

 :thumbsup yep maybe even Griff giving vikery a chop out
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 06, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton  griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 06, 2012, 10:40:02 AM
In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton  griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
Jesse white
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 06, 2012, 12:29:53 PM
They thing is ruckman take time.

Even maric was not a world beater at Tyrone current age
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2012, 01:06:45 PM
Dimma talking about big Ivan (from SNF)...


Hardwick also revealed that influential big ruck force Ivan Maric has carried lingering soreness for at least a month, but was significantly freer against the Lions to emerge one of the Tigers best in the morale boosting win.

Maric, 26, has been one of the AFL’s feel-good revelations of the 2012 season with his switch from Adelaide to Tigers enforcer around stoppages and packs.

He is likely to be an All-Australian selection nominee with an average of 33 hitouts a game as well as around an impressive 16 disposals an outing in leading the Tigers’ potentially imposing on-ball battery.

“He’s been really sore over the last month,” Hardwick declared of his big ruckman.

“It’s probably the first time he’s looked a little bit free and covered the ground a little bit better.

“I was really pleased with his input.”

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/08/06/hardwick-won-t-give-up-on-finals/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2012, 06:06:23 PM
Big Ivan is No. 1 in the comp. for total hitouts  :thumbsup

1. Ivan Maric (Richmond)                 557
2. Will Minson (Western Bulldogs)    546
3. Sam Jacobs (Adelaide)                 527
3. Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) 527
5. Darren Jolly (Collingwood)            440
6. Dean Cox (West Coast)               433
7. Mark Jamar (Melbourne)               425
8. Trent West (Geelong)                  420
9. Nic Natanui (West Coast)             410
10. David Hale (Hawthorn)               393

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/143764/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 06, 2012, 06:23:04 PM
Big Ivan is No. 1 in the comp. for total hitouts  :thumbsup

1. Ivan Maric (Richmond)                 557
2. Will Minson (Western Bulldogs)    546
3. Sam Jacobs (Adelaide)                 527
3. Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) 527
5. Darren Jolly (Collingwood)            440
6. Dean Cox (West Coast)               433
7. Mark Jamar (Melbourne)               425
8. Trent West (Geelong)                  420
9. Nic Natanui (West Coast)             410
10. David Hale (Hawthorn)               393

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/143764/default.aspx

Will he be AA?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 06, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Looks like he will have a good challenge aahead of him in will minson this weekend.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 06, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton  griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
Jesse white
would be well worth a try.

hes got talent but has never really managed to put it on display very regularly. a lot like ivan  before this yr i suppose.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on August 06, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
White has no mongrel and lacks intensity. Ivan has balls of steal.
Title: Big Ivan The Mullet Maric
Post by: BlackBlood on August 08, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
I found this on the tube... All Australian for Big Ivan?  Surely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbT5zqVv6qE

"A tribute to Ivan Maric, the Australian Rules footballer who crossed from the Adelaide Crows to the Richmond Tigers for the start of the 2012 season, a move that resurrected his career. Since his move to the Tigers, Big Ivan has sported a mullet, the iconic haircut of the working class cult hero, a role that Maric has effortlessly filled in his time at Richmond. A true leader of the Tiger Army".
Title: Re: Big Ivan The Mullet Maric
Post by: gerkin greg on August 08, 2012, 09:51:27 PM
Own up, you made it  :lol
Title: Re: Big Ivan The Mullet Maric
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 08, 2012, 10:05:44 PM
Can't believe they got Collingwood supporters to dress up as Tigers fans :lol
Title: Re: Big Ivan The Mullet Maric
Post by: BlackBlood on August 08, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
Own up, you made it  :lol

Who can tell?  Maybe we'll never know.  Couldn't possibly be as bad as the shameless cross-promotion the commercial television networks partake in.
Title: Re: Big Ivan The Mullet Maric
Post by: gerkin greg on August 08, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
Own up, you made it  :lol

Who can tell?  Maybe we'll never know.  Couldn't possibly be as bad as the shameless cross-promotion the commercial television networks partake in.

:cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 05, 2012, 09:09:04 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/A2BgsE-CMAA6Xhz.jpg)

If the mullet is going next year this may be worth something in the future  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on September 06, 2012, 07:30:08 AM
Does anyone who he was  peeed off with on the weekend . Boy oh Boy  i would of asked for a security escort to the car  and had the bomb squad check the car if i was that player
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tiger Tragic on September 06, 2012, 08:26:03 AM
Does anyone who he was  peeed off with on the weekend . Boy oh Boy  i would of asked for a security escort to the car  and had the bomb squad check the car if i was that player

I think it was Logan.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on September 06, 2012, 06:28:22 PM
Thx mate :)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 06, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
If Ivan got AA how come Gus didnt
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: jordie2tivendale on September 06, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
If Ivan got AA how come Gus didnt

Got picked for the All In side instead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 06, 2012, 07:44:34 PM
I like how last week he said to a Port player, "You weak (insert unforgivable c-word,here) -I'll stuffen kill ya!" and punched his hand!

Sta Radis,Ivan ??
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 06, 2012, 08:12:59 PM
reminded me of sheeds and white
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2012, 08:29:38 PM
Andie Hensley ‏@AndieHensley twitter:

"Just saw vision of Ivan confirming his wedding isn't until end of next season! Which means the mullet remains for another year #mulletpower"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 09, 2012, 10:11:21 PM
Oh yesss he's gunna end up like Greg Anderson big man  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
"Big Ivan" - by Matthew McKenzie - Channel 7 AFL - Tribute to Ivan Maric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbT5zqVv6qE
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 16, 2012, 01:53:09 PM
The mullet was back at training today  :thumbsup

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7ySQflCcAA9rqE.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/269250889779408896/photo/1
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 08, 2012, 12:35:27 AM
Cult hero Ivan Maric is Richmond's mane man

    Sam Edmund
    From: Herald Sun
    December 07, 2012 10:30PM


IVAN Maric stood at the microphone.

The rugged ruckman had just finished third in his first Jack Dyer Medal count when he delivered the words that make football fans melt.

"The way the playing group has welcomed me to this football club has made me feel like I was always meant to come here and wear this jumper," Maric told the Richmond faithful at Crown Palladium.

It was the humble full-stop to a remarkable debut season in yellow and black. A season that silenced critics, shocked supporters and surprised even Maric.

As the plaudits flowed throughout the year and the mullet-inspired cult following grew to epic proportions, the softly spoken big man remained largely silent.

Just over 12 months since he walked in the door at Punt Rd, Maric offered the Herald Sun a candid insight into the most remarkable year of his football life.

The former Adelaide ruckman was traded by the Crows to the Tigers for pick 37 in the 2011 draft after playing only six games in 2011. It wasn't the sort of form that screamed blossoming talent.

And Maric admitted 2012 started in a cloud of doubt.

"When I was training all through pre-season I was fighting demons," he said.

"Always that thought would pop into my head; 'Was I good enough?' and I questioned myself. But I suppose that happens to every player. It was just a matter of persisting.

"I didn't know how it was going to turn out, but when I met with (Richmond coach) Damien (Hardwick), I'm not sure what it was, but something about it felt right, like it was the right move and we established a connection straight away.

"You have to believe in your ability and I think that's really important if you want to achieve anything. For me, I got a lot of enjoyment out of last season, playing the way I played because that's how I want to play footy."

Maric has the great characteristic that endears players to supporters. He plays with heart.

The 26-year-old will never be a ruckman blessed with freakish athletic talents. But what the Tigers got in exchange for that late 30s draft pick was a player with truckloads of desire and one who thrives on hard work and a team-first environment.

"You can't really market me like other players in the competition, like a Lance Franklin or something like that," Maric said with a laugh.

"I'm just what you see is what you get. I love that mateship and the strong bonds you build with teammates through the hard work that you do."

Richmond assistant coach and Port Adelaide premiership ruckman Brendon Lade said Maric just needed a chance.

"Ruckmen take a little bit longer to develop as everyone knows and most of them just need an opportunity to play and to have a crack at being the No.1 ruck," Lade said.

"We thought if we gave him an opportunity he could flourish and he was almost an All-Australian because of it. He's had a big impact, especially on the midfield group."

Richmond last season won a centre bounce clearance 47.5 per cent of the time Maric was involved - ranked No.1 of the top-10 centre bounce ruckmen in the AFL. He made the All-Australian squad of 40 and, according to some, was stiff not to make the final 22.

The wrecking ball to Richmond's silk-laden midfield was quickly elevated to cult hero status - complete with mullet mania.

It's difficult to recall a traded player so immediately loved and respected by the Tiger army.

Maric sheepishly admits the hype was "big", but it's clear he's uncomfortable.

"I suppose that attention, I don't really like it," he said.

"I like and appreciate people recognising that I was playing my role and that's a good part of it.

"But I just really wanted to stay focused on what I needed to do each week and that was to play well. I didn't want to get caught up in everything that was happening.

"You can't control how people see you and who they like and dislike and things like that. I really wanted to make sure I was getting all my positive feedback from my coaches and teammates and not so much from the TV and the newspapers and stuff like that."

So positive was the feedback from his colleagues that Maric was voted into the club's six-man leadership group during last week's pre-season camp in Cairns.

In typical Maric style, he's not likely to get carried away by the honour.

"I just want to make sure it doesn't change anything about me or how I go about it in regards to training and setting standards around the footy club," he said.

"They voted me in for how I acted last season so I don't want to change that. I want to keep improving and building relationships with the guys and supporting the other leaders."

Maric has made a slower start to the pre-season than he would like, after he was bothered by soft-tissue problems towards the end of last season.

"I'm feeling good. I'm just taking a bit longer to ease into training because I was really battling towards the end of the year with my groin," he said.

"So I'm just really trying to strengthen everything up so these problems don't happen. I didn't have an operation, it was more rest and rehabilitation."

Lade said the club would give Maric all the time he needed to get right.

"We're not going to push him at all. We pushed him last year to play some games when we probably should have rested him and with (Tyrone) Vickery going down that hurt Ivan more than anyone," Lade said.

"He gets a bit worried that he's not training and not doing what he needs to get his body right, but we know he works hard and when he does get back into training he'll be up and going."

And when he is, Maric will set about building a better understanding with Richmond's growing band of influential onballers, something he admitted has proven more difficult than at Adelaide.

"It's been a bit harder only because of the fact that we've got so many good midfielders.

"At Adelaide 'Thommo' (Scott Thompson) was the really dominant midfielder and he wanted the ball all the time and you'd build that relationship really quickly and you've seen that with Sam Jacobs and Scott who've done that really well," he said.

"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.

"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.

"I don't know, I suppose it goes back to how they are as a playing group and how welcoming they are - they really make you feel comfortable. I think that reflects on the field in the relationships around the stoppages. I believe that's really important."

Maric recently returned with teammates from the Cairns camp firm in the belief that the foundations are in place at Punt Rd to finally take that next step - finals.

But he doesn't want to tempt fate, and for a player who has only been a Tiger for a year, he's grown tired of talk about September droughts and crushed expectations.

"Look, we've got the players, we've got the talent, we've got a few more mature recruits in Chris Knights, Troy Chaplin and Aaron Edwards and that's really strengthened our list," Maric said.

"We've got it, but it's all about doing it now and just putting our heads down, training hard and wanting it.

"And it's about doing it on game day. I've only been here 12 months and I'm sick of hearing how every year it's the same thing.

"I just don't want to be part of a group that didn't achieve anything or didn't have finals success."

 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/cult-hero-ivan-maric-is-richmonds-mane-man/story-e6frf9jf-1226532386660
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on December 08, 2012, 06:44:32 AM
That is just about the best RFC related interview for the year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on December 08, 2012, 08:01:56 AM
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"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.

"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.

anything to be read into no mention of Martin?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on December 08, 2012, 08:11:25 AM
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"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.

"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.

anything to be read into no mention of Martin?
Yes, runs his own race.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 08, 2012, 10:29:48 AM
Cut the mullet it's not the 80s anymore
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on December 08, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
Best "recruit" since Ian Stewart.
Not that i,m biased or anything.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: torch on December 09, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
Let's just see in 2013 how the Croatian plays.

Richmond's problem has always been a player having a great first season and not being consistent in his second year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on December 09, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
First season was outstanding. Has a very good attitude. Needs to back it up next year if we are to have a chance of playing finals footy
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 10, 2012, 08:02:13 PM
Ivan Maric - Taking care of business
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 10 Dec, 2012


Unsurprisingly, Ivan Maric has taken a modest, level-headed approach to his recent appointment to the Richmond playing leadership group after just one year at the Club.

Maric’s Tiger teammates had no hesitation in voting the big-hearted ruckman into the group on the back of his inspirational efforts throughout the 2012 season, which culminated in him finishing third in the Jack Dyer Medal.

It’s a deserved honor for the ex-Crow, but one he clearly intends taking in his stride . . .

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152262/default.aspx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 26, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
The Herald-Sun today voted Ivan recruit of the year  :thumbsup


1. IVAN MARIC (Richmond)

It was the big man’s mullet that grabbed our attention in the NAB Cup when the Tigers unveiled their star recruit. Not long after, it was his football that did all the talking. The former Crow dragged the Tigers home several times during their early win bonanza, with Damien Hardwick clapping his hands red at Maric’s ruck dominance and work around the ground. It was no wonder new Crows coach Brenton Sanderson tried to keep Maric, who fell out with Neil Craig, with the lion-hearted 26-year-old racking up 652 hit-outs. He’ll play his 100th game in Round 2 and based on 2012 Tigers fans have a lot to get excited about looking towards his next 100.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/countdown-top-10-rivalries/story-e6frf9jf-1226543117674
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 31, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
Ivan the Great
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Monday, December 31, 2012


In just one season with Richmond, Ivan Maric has blossomed into one of the premier ruckmen of the competition.

He thrived on the opportunity presented to him by the Tigers, after being traded by the Adelaide Crows in October 2011, following only 77 games in six seasons with them.

It was a match made in football heaven...the strongly-built, aggressive big man, with a real appetite for the contest, sporting that now famous, flowing mullet, teams up with the passionate, proud, loud Tiger Army, who have long had a penchant for cult figures.

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-31/ivan-the-great
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 11, 2013, 04:13:39 PM
Big Ivan taking on the AFL Players' febfast Challenge ...

https://aflfebfast2013.everydayhero.com/au/ivan-maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
Marvellous Maric
By richmondfc.com.au
Tuesday, March 12, 2013


“He’s a leader in his own right, been elevated to our leadership group, and is a player that’s just got an aura around him.  Our players love playing with him." - Hardwick told Fox Sports.

Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-12/marvellous-maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 21, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
Richmond’s No. 1 ruckman Ivan Maric could be a weapon up forward for the Tigers at times this season . . .

That’s the opinion of Tiger goalkicking great, Matthew Richardson, who feels Maric has the necessary attributes to cause big headaches for opposition backlines.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-21/maric-can-add-bite-to-tiger-attack
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 21, 2013, 09:38:16 PM
So many quality part time fwds inc maric, dusty, cotch, lids etc yet we keep kicking to jack when hes double and triple teamed. Would love to see Eevan kick 2 or 3 a game  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 21, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.

Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.

HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on March 22, 2013, 12:22:47 AM
My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.

Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.

HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths

 :gobdrop
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on March 22, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.

Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.

HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths

Okay by that theory Bents you are expecting our B graders to actually get the ball out of the middle against the likes of Pendlebury, Swan, Ablett, Dangerfield, Boyd, Watson....need I go on?
thats like putting 18 inch rims, hotdog and full sports kit on a Daewoo Matiz.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 22, 2013, 03:50:15 PM
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expecting our B graders to actually get the ball out of the middle against the likes of Pendlebury, Swan, Ablett, Dangerfield, Boyd, Watson....need I go on?
thats like putting 18 inch rims, hotdog and full sports kit on a Daewoo Matiz.

Foley and Tuck are two of our better inside midfielders so it is not as unrealistic as you allude to. We only require these two to be fit and play well and then the option of allowing our best players to be more attacking comes into consideration. One of; Knights/Ellis/Helbig/Newman/Morris/Aarnot/Conca etc. will ( :pray) fill the void.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 22, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
foley lmao
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Bengal on March 22, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
 :huh :huh
My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.

Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.

HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths

 :huh :huh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on March 24, 2013, 02:54:39 PM
foley lmao
What are u laughing at?
Title: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: one-eyed on April 04, 2013, 12:19:11 PM
Big Ivan will play his 100th game on Friday night  :clapping


Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: wayne on April 04, 2013, 12:19:59 PM
Big Ivan will play his 100th game on Friday night  :clapping

 :clapping

Hope he can get 100 Richmond games up too.
Title: Hard work takes big Tiger Maric to 100 games (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 04, 2013, 12:20:55 PM
Hard work takes big Tiger Maric to 100 games
By Jennifer Phelan
10:30am AEDT
Thursday, April 4, 2013



IVAN Maric will reach 100 games this Friday night against St Kilda, just over a season after he left Adelaide to become what many have described as Richmond's missing link.

The big man with the big mullet will reach his first big milestone at the MCG in front of the supporters who have so heartily embraced him since he became a Tiger in the 2011 trade period.

It's something the quietly spoken 27-year-old said was an achievement made all the more significant by how hard the game was to play consistently. 

"I knew it was going to be hard work to get to 100 games; especially after playing your first one you realise that 99 more is actually really hard work," Maric told AFL.com.au.

"It's a good personal achievement. It's something that I'll look back and be proud of at the end of my career.

"At the moment, I just want to be part of a winning team, which is what I enjoy the most."

Maric appeared on the Tigers' radar when he was struggling to get a game at Adelaide under Neil Craig in 2011.

He fit the club's requirements for a physical and experienced ruckman, and was open to a move back to his hometown of Melbourne.

"We saw a spot that needed filling and we thought he could fill it, and I suppose the rest is history at the moment," Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade said.

"[Our opposition analyst] Blair Hartley watched a lot of him over at the Port Magpies.

"He was doing a lot of things right over there but was not getting a game at Adelaide because of Sam Jacobs.

"As a club, we were probably struggling for [players] that age he came in at, that 25 to 26, 27-year-old.

"We targeted some players in that area and he was one of them and he's definitely shown some good leadership in his first year."

Maric was traded to Richmond at the end of that season after six years at Adelaide, where he played 77 games.

In a remarkable result, he finished third in the best and fairest in his first season as a Tiger, after playing 21 games in 2012.

He was promoted to the new-look leadership group in November last year, led by Trent Cotchin and consisting of vice-captain Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Jackson and Dylan Grimes.

His impact among the group has been profound; not just as a player and what he's done, but in that key leadership area.

Maric says leadership is "just in me, I suppose", but acknowledges his promotion to the group has been a highlight of his time at the club so far.

"It is good, I suppose … that they appreciate what I have to say and that sort of stuff," he said.

Lade said Maric had improved his around the ground ability since coming to Punt Road but believed they had only "begun to scratch the surface" of what he was capable of.

"When he came here, we just wanted to tidy up a few areas we thought we could help him with," Lade said.

"He's not one of the tallest ruckmen going around so he needs to be able to have an impact around the ground and we think he's improved in that area and helps the defence out when he can.

"His competitiveness around the ground has been outstanding.

"He's had a big impact. We've been pretty impressed with what he's done so far and we think he can still get better still and improve himself and the team even further."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-04/big-milestone-for-big-mullet
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2013, 12:33:06 PM
Big Ivvy  :bow :cheers :clapping
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 04, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: tigs2011 on April 04, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

McEvoy can console himself with at least beating Ivan like Kruz did last week. The Big Iv will be too busy singing the theme song and doing a lap of honour high fiving the fans.  :lol
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Smokey on April 04, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night.  Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt.   :banghead
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 04, 2013, 01:29:26 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night.  Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt.   :banghead

Have thought the same thing for a while. The guy is a flog. It's all about BT, thinks he's the show. Did you hear him groan into the mic then admonish that toddler's effort at tossing the coin on Thursday night? Wanker. Hate how he asks the special comments blokes for opinions then spends the next 5 minutes belittling the comments. Can't stand the prick. When you've become a bigger flog than Dwayne Russell it's time to reassess.

"Human meatball"  ::)
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 04, 2013, 01:39:52 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

No shame being beaten by kruz. He is a gun.

Maric will do well vs saints.

BryanTaylor is indeed a twit
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: tigs2011 on April 04, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night.  Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt.   :banghead

Have thought the same thing for a while. The guy is a flog. It's all about BT, thinks he's the show. Did you hear him groan into the mic then admonish that toddler's effort at tossing the coin on Thursday night? Wanker. Hate how he asks the special comments blokes for opinions then spends the next 5 minutes belittling the comments. Can't stand the prick. When you've become a bigger flog than Dwayne Russell it's time to reassess.

"Human meatball"  ::)

Lol at human meatball. Isn't that racist to call a little wog a meatball? Guy gets away with it every game.  :lol
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 04, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night.  Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt.   :banghead

worst commentator going around. The only thing good about him is his love for the Tigers

Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 04, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
BIG BOY MCEVOY
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 04, 2013, 07:56:23 PM
Eat'em alive Crazyman. :gotigers
Title: Ivan Maric a huge part of the revival at Punt Road (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on April 05, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
Ivan Maric a huge part of the revival at Punt Road

    by: Greg Denham
    From: The Australian
    April 05, 2013


THE resurgence of Richmond can't be put down to just one man, but the impact of Ivan Maric's arrival from the Crows last season has been profound.

If Richmond beats St Kilda tonight at the MCG, it will be the first time since 1997 that the Tigers have won their first two games of the season. Not a huge achievement, but a big deal for the Tigers.

If they win, following the drought-breaking first-up win over Carlton, no player will be adored as much by the Richmond faithful than cult hero Maric, who will play his 100th senior game.

The fact it will be just the no-frills big man's 23rd game for the Tigers will be of no concern for fans as Maric, 27, has been a huge part of the revival at Punt Road.

Maric finished third in the club's best-and-fairest award last year after 21 games, with 652 hit-outs and an average of 16 disposals. His impact has been extraordinary and it was no surprise he was elevated to the Tigers' leadership group this year alongside new captain Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Jackson and Dylan Grimes.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/ivan-maric-a-huge-part-of-the-revival-at-punt-road/story-fnca0u4y-1226612816427
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: tony_montana on April 05, 2013, 01:12:00 AM
Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did

Must be  :fishing

bc Ive watched the replay twice and at the most, he just got shaded with that dropped mark in the goal square giving Kruz a TKO.
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 05, 2013, 03:38:38 AM
Nah Kruz was by far the best ruckman on the ground. Maric was below par in the last quarter. Tapped it straight to a Scum player who goaled, dropped a sitter which cost us a goal and didn't do much to stop Kruz flying for his grabs. Had that been Big O we'd be calling for his execution
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: eliminator on April 05, 2013, 06:31:59 AM
Congratulations to him. Need a big game from him against the Saints
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 05, 2013, 10:20:52 AM
coach's new thing:

opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED

 :shh
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 05, 2013, 10:24:01 AM
coach's new thing:

opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED

 :shh

Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 05, 2013, 10:30:28 AM
coach's new thing:

opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED

 :shh

Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed

Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 05, 2013, 10:31:45 AM
coach's new thing:

opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED

 :shh

Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed

Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.

did he get 1 more hitout than kruz
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 05, 2013, 10:35:56 AM
coach's new thing:

opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED

 :shh

Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed

Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.

did he get 1 more hitout than kruz

richmond centre clearances 41 - carlton 25

KRUZ DESTROYED
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 05, 2013, 10:38:57 AM
hey you lied, kruz got 2 more possies than ivvy. he also took 3 contested marks and ivvy only took 3 marks all night (dropping sitter didnt count lololol)

yesssssssssssss
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: gerkin greg on April 05, 2013, 10:40:50 AM
I made the centre clearance stats up too lmao

 :fishing
Title: Re: Congrats Ivan Maric - 100 games
Post by: Coach on April 05, 2013, 10:43:03 AM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 06, 2013, 09:22:34 AM
Bit worried about the big fella, don't think he is playing at the same level he was last year and we got stuff all options to replace him, ty is inconsistent and the Big o is not up to top level
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 06, 2013, 11:44:16 AM
Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.

never had a full preseason and it shows
4 weeks he will be right but needs a run in the 2's
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.

never had a full preseason and it shows
4 weeks he will be right but needs a run in the 2's

Ah yes! Forgot about that. Two more games will see him come ok. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 06, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
As long as its just conditioning then Im not too fussed, just hope its not the groin flaring up already
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
Tony the apparent lack of conditioning is probably due to his groin problems of last season.From what i understand the club had the option of surgery but decided against it.just hope they chose the right option
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 06, 2013, 11:56:56 AM
Lets hope mate, bc we're stuffed if he has to hobble around for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 10, 2013, 12:29:17 AM
If his injured don't expect to hear about it until he..
a) tears his groin and does 10x more damage than he already has
b) he goes under the knife at the end of the year and misses another pre season
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigers of Old on April 10, 2013, 09:15:33 AM
Surely they'd be onto it if there was a problem.
Looked as if he trained yesterday so can't be too many concerns.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 10, 2013, 09:23:54 AM
Looked to be jumping well yesterday
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 10, 2013, 10:31:55 AM
Looked to be jumping well yesterday
Who against.Nahas?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 10, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
Long season, his prep is geared to have him firing in the back half when we'll really need him

A few others in this boat  ;)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 10, 2013, 10:56:51 AM
A few others in this boat  ;)

Just hope that's not the sort of boat that's heading to NZ that ends up in Geraldton WA  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 10, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
Just hope it has a paddle  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 10, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
Just hope it has a paddle  :shh

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 10, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Looked to be jumping well yesterday
Who against.Nahas?

A tackling bag,  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 20, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Whats up with the big fella?
Dont get me wrong, He was far from our worst and i'm not blaming for the loss, but....

In each game he has made crucial mistakes at crucial times, and more importantly doesn't seem to be playing with the same intensity he did last year.

When he took that intercept mark late in the second his first instinct seemed to be to hand off. He never looked confident and subsequently sprayed what should have been a gimme goal.

something seems amiss with the big croat. wheres that mongrel he bought to the side last year?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on April 20, 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Thought he started reasonably well, that miss was ordinary..a real dolly....faded out of the game..agreed he isn't asserting himself, hudson is a respectable player though....not overly worried....yet
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
he is out of form.. his disposal this year has been shocking
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 20, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
yep is making a couple of mindboggling unforced errors each game. Has been well below his best this season so far
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 20, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
Whats up with the big fella?
Dont get me wrong, He was far from our worst and i'm not blaming for the loss, but....

In each game he has made crucial mistakes at crucial times, and more importantly doesn't seem to be playing with the same intensity he did last year.

When he took that intercept mark late in the second his first instinct seemed to be to hand off. He never looked confident and subsequently sprayed what should have been a gimme goal.

something seems amiss with the big croat. wheres that mongrel he bought to the side last year?

Good post is not the same player as last year
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 20, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Playing sore me thinks  ;)

Am I allowed to do that? Using one of these  :)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 20, 2013, 09:38:39 PM

Playing sore me thinks  ;)

Sure looks like it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 20, 2013, 11:11:09 PM
Playing sore me thinks  ;)

Am I allowed to do that? Using one of these  :)

Agreed thought that silly free kick he gave away in the first turned the push in the back on the Members wing turned the tide when we were 13-0 up.

Does not have the same impact and oomph if I can say that as he did last season.

The mind does not seem to be as strong and willing as we saw last year either.

Slow cumbersome lethargic and bereft of confidence and the on field aura he had last year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on April 21, 2013, 09:00:58 AM
And yet is still an upgrade on every option we had prior to his joining the club.
Until yesterday, I thought he was slowly improving each round, hopefully yesterday was a hiccup or a burp.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on April 21, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
isn't he recovering from a groin injury or surgery on it or something?  Could be still cruelling his flow.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
isn't he recovering from a groin injury or surgery on it or something?  Could be still cruelling his flow.

Yep owl had a restricted preseason due to a groin problem, believe it is an OP like issue
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 21, 2013, 10:40:28 AM
If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.

we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 21, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.

we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?

We will play him like we did Foley, until he breaks down..
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BILmAoYCAAAquLG.jpg:large)

The many sides of Ivan Maric
By Jennifer Phelan
AFL Record
Round 3, April 19-21


“I just want to come in and have an impact straight away, be pretty vocal, which I’m quite comfortable doing, and be a leader on the track … I want to drag others along and maybe set some new standards. I’m really excited about that. I just want to come in and be myself.”

It was hardly a world-shattering statement at the time he arrived at Punt Road – October, 2011 – but those words seem prophetic when assessing the impact Ivan Maric has made at Richmond.

He was back in his hometown of Melbourne, having signed a three-year deal, and was sporting the beginnings of the mullet that would lengthen and help catapult him to cult-hero status within a matter of months.

Fast-forward to April 2013 and it is hard to imagine he was not always a Tiger.

Quite simply, Maric could not have had a bigger impact on the group – in a playing and leadership sense – in his 24 games in yellow and black.

He placed third in last year’s Jack Dyer Medal – behind Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio – and in his acceptance speech, said he felt like he had always been meant to wear a Richmond jumper.

Players and coaches echoed that sentiment by voting the former Adelaide ruckman into the leadership group two months later.

Maric’s positive influence and his popularity saw him join Dylan Grimes as new additions to the six-man group led by Cotchin.

It meant a lot to the softly-spoken big man with the most talked-about locks in the competition.

It resonated with those goals he outlined when he first became a Tiger, and proved to him how much his new teammates valued his direction.

“It is good, I suppose, that they appreciate what I have to say,” Maric says.

“It’s just sort of in me, I suppose. It’s how I was brought up, I have a good family and it’s how my family is – we care for each other.”

That family is “huge”, according to Maric, starting with his siblings – Lucie, 28, and Mark, 24, and his Croatian-born parents, Ivan and Stefanie.

Growing up in Keilor in Melbourne’s north, the Maric kids learned Croatian before English and dedicated plenty of time to sport. Ivan senior played soccer for St Albans – the club where Maric is now No. 1 ticketholder – and the kids always had a hand in some activity.

It wasn’t until a 2009 trip to Croatia that Maric realised just how far his extended family stretched.

It was the first time his parents had been back since migrating to Australia – Ivan from the town of Komletinci and Stefanie from Ðurdenovac – and it was a five-week trip around the country that involved plenty of family reunions.

"It was a special feeling. I can’t explain it,” Maric says.

“To know where you come from and to see the houses your family was born in and the villages they grew up in, the graves of your grandparents you never met.

“You meet your aunties and uncles and cousins. You find out who you are.”

To Richmond supporters, Maric is a bullocking, physical ruckman who has changed the shape of the Tigers’ midfield. It wasn’t always destined to be that way.

Basketball was Maric’s chosen sport in his adolescence, having started at the age of nine and when he was bigger than all the other kids.

He dabbled in soccer and Australian Football at school, but it was hoops and the Keilor Basketball Club that captured his attention until he was 16.

Maric’s days at Keilor’s Overnewton College centred around what he did at lunchtime – and that was sport. Somehow he managed all three during the break, but as he neared the end of his education, it was Australian Football that stood out.

Maric’s mates, who were mainly Essendon supporters and had influenced him to follow suit, urged him to take his football further.

Encouraged by AFL players with Croatian heritage such as Glen Jakovich, Alan Didak and Ilija Grgic, Maric found himself at Keilor Football Club trying to get a game.

Maric thought he was a better basketballer than footballer, but persevered anyway. It took just 12 games before he caught the eye of scouts and was invited to train with TAC Cup club Calder Cannons.

“I thought I’d go down and see what it was like,” Maric says.

“I stood out because of my height and, then when I started training at Calder, I was always pretty good at running so I’d stand out there.”

Football didn’t come as naturally to Maric and he became frustrated. In his second season at the Cannons, he almost quit.

“I was so serious about basketball and I just thought, ‘Oh, this footy thing … I don’t know’. On the basketball court, I’d never make mistakes and I’d play really well and then I’d go out on the footy field and make mistakes and everyone would be telling you off and giving you feedback,” he says.

“I sort of couldn’t handle that. I was thinking, ‘Why am I doing this?’”

Maric got over it. He continued to play, continued to impress, and was drafted by the Crows with selection No. 40 in the 2004 NAB AFL Draft.

He left his family and moved to Adelaide to begin a seven-year stretch that resulted in 77 games and the further honing of the competitive streak he had always possessed.

There were always other big guys at the Crows to contend with. Early on, it was Matthew Clarke – who became a significant mentor – and Rhett Biglands. Then Jonathon Griffin, Ben Hudson and John Meesen. Then Brad Moran, Kurt Tippett and James Sellar provided rivalry, before the recruitment of Sam Jacobs for 2011 tightened competition yet again.

It was not always easy for Maric. At times, he was considered the No. 1 ruckman at Adelaide, but there was always a backdrop that he needed to fight for his spot. In his eyes, that was OK.

“I look back and it has made me work harder and more determined to be good, to be the best,” he says.

“It was good for me. I was so lucky to have that competition at the club for so long.”

Griffin (now at Fremantle) and former Richmond (and now Crows) ruckman Angus Graham, whom Maric viewed as tough competition at Punt Road, are two he still considers good friends.

It is relationships like these forged through sport Maric cherishes most.

Former Crow and new Tiger Chris Knights is another close mate. They lived together for more than four years in Adelaide and Knights introduced Maric to Erin – the woman he is set to marry on November 3 at an Adelaide Hills winery.

Maric played a big part in Knights’ move to Richmond last year. He told coach Damien Hardwick the midfielder wanted to return to Melbourne and was worth considering.

“They had to come to an agreement and the coach had to like him, and I just said, ‘Look, he’s interested, he’ll come and he doesn’t want to come for money, he wants to come and be part of a team’,” Maric says.

“It worked out really well for both of us.”

Fitting in at a new club and adjusting to different surroundings is a challenge, and it was assistant coach Brendon Lade who helped Maric’s transition.

The former Port Adelaide ruckman and his wife Sarah made sure Maric and Erin felt welcome early on, hosting them often for dinner. That has since become a regular occurrence and the couples are good friends.

Lade said Maric could easily come across as a “bit reserved” in an initial meeting, but never took long to become well liked. “He’s probably a bit measured in his approach in talking to people,” Lade says.

“He does take a while to probably make a friend, but once he’s friends with you, he’s a very genuine friend and would do a lot of things for you.

“He would fit into any group really easily. The boys love him, they love what he brings to the table, his competiveness and what he can do around the ground and his will to win.”

So well liked is Maric, AAMI Stadium ground staff were thrilled to see him back in Adelaide in round 14 last year when the Tigers faced the Crows.

At a training session before the game, one staff member wrote “Welcome back Ivan” on a cone cordoning off the centre circle. Maric was rapt.

He arrived at Richmond with commendable rucking ability, having worked closely with the Crows ruck coach Clarke for four years.

It was his ability around the ground the Tigers wanted to develop. With the help of Lade and triple Brisbane Lions premiership player and Tiger assistant coach Justin Leppitsch, Maric made inroads in that area last year.

“He’s not one of the tallest ruckmen going around so he needs to be able to have an impact around the ground,” Lade said. “We think he’s improved in that area and helps the defence out when he can. His competitiveness around the ground has been outstanding.”

Maric, who recently played his 100th AFL game, always wanted to be an “aggressive ruckman, one that people hate to play against”.

Learning from Lade and Leppitsch has helped his development and has meant he is more than just a strong tap ruckman.

“They were imposing figures when they played,” Maric says.

“That’s what I want to do. I want to play like they played. I’ve worked on my marking and it improved last year and I want to keep improving it.

“Teammates love it when ruckmen take marks so that’s definitely got a fair bit to do with it.”

Away from football, Maric is a big family man. He is a practising Roman Catholic and goes to church, visits his parents in Gisborne and spends plenty of time at St Albans Soccer Club, often attending the Thursday night buffet as a family, as well as games.

“I’d go down there anyway, even if I wasn’t the No. 1 ticketholder,” Maric says. “I grew up around that soccer club. My dad played there in the inaugural team so we have plenty of family history at that club.”

He is also helping grow interest in Australian Football abroad. In January, the Croatian Knights – the national representative team – asked him to be an ambassador.

He has sent them footballs and has already given the team’s young ruckman pointers to work on.

But the pull to return to the birthplace of his parents might see him offer some hands-on assistance sooner rather than later.

“For me, 2009 was a great trip. The best trip,” he said. “I’m planning on going back to Croatia soon and get involved and do some training over there.

“It’s all done via email at the moment so it’s a bit hard, but it’s good fun. I really enjoy that sort of stuff.”

A CUT ABOVE THE REST

There isn’t another hairdo in the AFL that commands its own Facebook page. At last count, ‘Ivan Maric’s Mullet’ had more than 10,000 ‘likes’ with the group’s simple and to-the-point description: “Everyone loves a good mullet so like!”

Mullet wigs and nicknames have followed Maric to Punt Road with the back of his hair attracting more attention with every centimetre it grows, which only strengthens the former Crow’s position as a cult hero to Tiger fans.

Initially, it started as a bet between Maric and good friend Adelaide forward Taylor Walker to see who could grow the best ‘party in the back’ arrangement.

Walker’s hair has its own following, with the Adelaide Advertiser creating a ‘Taylor Walker Mullet Mask’ for fans at the Adelaide-Richmond round 14 clash at AAMI Stadium last year – the first time the two hairstyles faced off as opponents.

The penalty for the man whose mullet is cut off first is to name his first-born after the victor. Trims are allowed.

For Maric, he is not even sure where the bet lies anymore. But he has grown attached to his hair and is considering keeping it for his November wedding to fiancé Erin regardless.

“Taylor talks so much crap,” Maric laughed. “It was just something we did for a laugh initially, but we still talk about it and I think he enjoys the media that goes on with it.”

With that, Walker was recently asked by Triple M in Adelaide about the wager, which he considers very much alive.

“I’m hoping I don’t have a girl,” Walker said. “I’d have to call her Ivana.”

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 22, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.

we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?

We will play him like we did Foley, until he breaks down..

Makes me think of the coughlan injury.

Comes off half broken down.

Club doctors and pysio send Cogs back onto the field. breaks down completely
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 03, 2013, 03:01:29 PM
This has to be a wacky idea of Chocco's  :eyebrow ...


Ivan Maric gets his ear flicked by Ricky Petterd as punishment for dropping a mark during a Richmond Tigers AFL training session at ME Bank Centre on May 2, 2013 in Melbourne, Australia.
(Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)


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Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 03, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
That's the punishment!   :banghead


Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.

Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.

....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 03, 2013, 09:47:50 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 03, 2013, 11:12:22 PM
That's the punishment!   :banghead


Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.

Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.

....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!

u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on May 03, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
That's the punishment!   :banghead


Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.

Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.

....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!

u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Port's list wasn't in that bad a shape because they had a number of good young kids coming through which they were all able to sign up and keep. Hinkley is showing up how bad Primus was as a coach. Neeld btw is the current Primus.

Anyway as for Ivan, not sure ear flicking is the answer lol but he has this year dropped a couple of crucial sitters by AFL standards.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 04, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
That's the punishment!   :banghead


Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.

Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.

....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!

u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Port's list wasn't in that bad a shape because they had a number of good young kids coming through which they were all able to sign up and keep. Hinkley is showing up how bad Primus was as a coach. Neeld btw is the current Primus.


Agree MT, their list wasn't nearly as bad as their results suggested and now with a good coach they have been able to turn things around quite quickly.  Not that I think they have a premiership list but it is certainly 'middle of the road' competitive and should have been that way for the past few seasons.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on May 04, 2013, 09:26:26 AM
u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Gee wizz,GWS,Melb,Crws,Suns and West Coast and i'll raise you Sydney and Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on May 04, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
that's not an ear flick its a wet willie.  Hinkley is going well atm but they need to get a big scalp to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 04, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
This has to be a wacky idea of Chocco's  :eyebrow ...


Ivan Maric gets his ear flicked by Ricky Petterd as punishment for dropping a mark during a Richmond Tigers AFL training session at ME Bank Centre on May 2, 2013 in Melbourne, Australia.
(Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)a


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Surprised no one mentioned Ellis lurking on the fringes
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigers of Old on May 06, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
His season is mirroring ours.
Title: Tigers up in the air in ruck as Maric faces a fitness test
Post by: one-eyed on May 10, 2013, 11:13:45 PM
Assistant coach Brendan Lade's press conference today:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-05-10/lade-press-conference-may-10
Title: Re: Tigers up in the air in ruck as Maric faces a fitness test
Post by: one-eyed on May 10, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Tigers up in the air in ruck as Maric faces a fitness test

   The Age
    May 11, 2013


Port Adelaide dumped two of its ruckmen. And Richmond is uncertain about its main one.

The status of ruckmen at both clubs remains clouded on the eve of Saturday's pivotal clash at AAMI Stadium.

The Tigers aren't 100 per cent sure their No. 1 ruckman Ivan Maric will overcome an ankle injury in time to play and his fate will be determined by how he recovers from a light training session in Adelaide on Friday.

Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade said Maric, ''at this stage'', was playing.

Maric's fitness is crucial for the Tigers as his ruck partner Tyrone Vickery was concussed last weekend.

But rather than exploit Richmond's possible ruck weakness, the Power dropped the two ruckmen who played in last week's loss to North Melbourne.

It axed Matthew Lobbe and Brent Renouf, recalling Jarrad Redden for his first game since round two - moves that surprised Richmond.

''It was a bit strange when I saw the sides but obviously they have got a plan they are going in with,'' Lade said.

He expected Redden to be supported in ruck by Justin Westhoff, while Richmond will rely on Orren Stephenson to assist Maric, should he play.

If Maric withdraws, Stephenson will shoulder the bulk of the ruck duties in his first senior game for Richmond, with Luke McGuane providing support.

The Tigers, seeking to end a three-game losing streak, also must cover the loss of captain Trent Cotchin who has a knee injury.

''Obviously the captain of anyone's club is a big loss,'' Lade said. ''But we have got some people coming in, in [Shane] Tuck and [Nathan] Foley, who we think can fill that void.

''Cotchin is very hard to replace but if everyone picks up 5 or 10 per cent, they can cover for him.''

Defender Troy Chaplin will play against his former Port teammates for the first time since ending his 140-game career at Alberton.

''You will always be a bit nervous coming up against your old mates who you played seven, eight years with,'' Lade said.

''I'm sure there will be some banter between the Port and Richmond players.''

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-up-in-the-air-in-ruck-as-maric-faces-a-fitness-test-20130510-2jdkh.html#ixzz2StbBe3EI
Title: Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric gets through training session in Adelaide (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on May 11, 2013, 03:45:33 AM
Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric gets through training session in Adelaide

    Jai Bednall
    From: The Advertiser
    May 11, 2013


IVAN Maric remains on track to front for Richmond against Port Adelaide tomorrow after completing a light training session at AAMI Stadium today.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-gets-through-training-session-in-adelaide/story-e6frf9mx-1226639384391
Title: Re: Tigers up in the air in ruck as Maric faces a fitness test
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 11, 2013, 04:37:01 AM
Both barely qualified as forum posts let alone as press articles
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 21, 2013, 01:21:20 PM
Maric back as Tigers set themselves for Dreamtime test

By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
12:25pm AEST Tuesday, May 21, 2013


RICHMOND is capable of handling the finals-like build-up to Saturday night's 'Dreamtime at the 'G' clash against Essendon, according to coach Damien Hardwick, with ruckman Ivan Maric set to return from injury for the top-eight litmus test. 
 
Maric, who missed last Sunday's 34-point win over Melbourne, will return from an ankle injury after training strongly at the ME Bank Centre on Tuesday morning.
 
The influential ruckmen shapes as a crucial inclusion for the 5-3 Tigers, who have fallen short in big games at the MCG against Geelong and Collingwood this season.
 
The Bombers have won two of the last three 'Dreamtime' matches, winning last year's clash by 19 points in front of 80,900 fans at the MCG.
 
The centrepiece match of Indigenous Round is expected to draw another bumper crowd of more than 80,000 people, and Hardwick said his Tigers would handle the occasion.
 
"It's obviously a big game from a crowd point of view … and probably from a build-up point of view it has got that (finals) feel," Hardwick said on Tuesday.
 
"It's something that we've coped with reasonably well. We had a really good win against Carlton; St Kilda was a big build-up as well.
 
"Probably the Collingwood and Geelong games we didn't play to our required standards, so we certainly look forward to rising to the challenge this week.
 
"It's an enormous honour for us to be playing in Indigenous Round and we certainly hope the game responds to that."
 
After making a 6-0 start to the season, Essendon has suffered back-to-back losses to Geelong and the Brisbane Lions, kicking two of its three lowest scores for the season.
 
The Tigers have their own creases to iron out after failing to convert their chances against Melbourne last Sunday, and Hardwick said they would have their work cut out for them on Saturday night.   
 
"They're a very good side, they've got some great strengths and some very good players," he said of the Bombers.
 
"We've had some really solid contests over the last couple of years and this year will be no different.
 
"We look at the way they play, their numbers suggest they probably should have KPI-wise beaten Brisbane, but the scoreboard didn't reflect that.
 
"They played the best in the business in Geelong the week previous."
 
While Maric will return for the Tigers, Chris Newman (groin soreness), Dylan Grimes (foot) and Ricky Petterd (calf) will need to pass fitness tests later in the week.
 
Brandon Ellis, who racked up 39 possessions against the Demons, trained lightly on Tuesday because of soreness but was in no doubt for Saturday night's match.
 
Hardwick said Ellis and prized draftee Nick Vlastuin, who has 25 disposals against the Demons at 92 per cent efficiency, were on track to becoming genuine members of the Tigers' midfield.
 
"To be a genuine part of it you've got to deliver over a period of time and they're certainly capable players who are capable and entrenched to do that.
 
"We've just got to keep developing them.
 
"He (Ellis) has had a terrific year. He started off as sub in the first couple of games and has just built his game along nicely.
 
"He's been a great contributor over the course of the last four to five weeks.
 
"He's going to continue to get better as he gains more experience."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-21/maric-set-to-boost-tigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 21, 2013, 01:24:29 PM
Why is it that every time we play in front of 80,000 the media acts as though we've never done it before.

FFS our kids won this game in 2011 in front of 84k
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 21, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
Also beat the scum baggers in front of 80k

Currently 1 from 4 in big games this year, not a great record but
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 21, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
Also beat the scum baggers in front of 80k

Currently 1 from 4 in big games this year, not a great record but
2 from 5. Saints Friday Night Footy at the G with everyone watching is a big win for us. I used to dread Prime time games as we used to get a good pounding without lube.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 21, 2013, 02:23:26 PM
Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 21, 2013, 03:05:38 PM
Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.

Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 21, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
could always barrack for a pee ant minnow club like norf! or the bullflogs if you like being under the radar

you'd need a spade and a canary to find their hype
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 21, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.

Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.

I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and  I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.

Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 21, 2013, 03:48:20 PM
Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.

Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.

I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and  I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.

Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!

I can see why you say that WAT but I think it's something we have to seek out and conquer.  Agree that it would be nice to be 'left alone' before a big game but Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn et al get the hype thrown at them and I see it as part of the development and learning curve our guys need to have.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 21, 2013, 03:51:26 PM
Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.

Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.

I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and  I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.

Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!

I can see why you say that WAT but I think it's something we have to seek out and conquer.  Agree that it would be nice to be 'left alone' before a big game but Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn et al get the hype thrown at them and I see it as part of the development and learning curve our guys need to have.

Yeah goes both ways I suppose, I would just like it a bit quieter until we can match it with these teams, the Cats and Pies game showed we are another year off, anyway, good for development I suppose. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 22, 2013, 07:46:18 AM
smokey' on the money. need to confront it head on. the more hype and build up we get in these games the more we will be prepared for it if we play finals.
you cant tone it down come september.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on May 22, 2013, 08:43:37 AM
If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 22, 2013, 09:00:01 AM
If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.

And we're next door neighbours now so the alliance just got stronger.  Once we have rid the Top End of all those pesky Greeks we will be headed south so watch out.   :police:
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on May 22, 2013, 09:05:12 AM
If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.

And we're next door neighbours now so the alliance just got stronger.  Once we have rid the Top End of all those pesky Greeks we will be headed south so watch out.   :police:

Just go and eat a souvlaki and leave the smart stuff  to others  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on May 22, 2013, 09:10:22 AM
Would that be a buffalo souvlaki or a crocodile souvlaki?  They're about the only 2 types of meat one can buy up here!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
Hard to be quiet about the game when it is the "marquee" game of this round; the indigenous round

We should embrace the hype, the build up and everything else that comes along with it

Outside of the ANZAC day game this should be the next biggest game of the H&A season and we as a club should be doing everything in our power to make sure it is
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on May 22, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
Would that be a buffalo souvlaki or a crocodile souvlaki?  They're about the only 2 types of meat one can buy up here!

go the combo  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 22, 2013, 12:45:37 PM
Hard to be quiet about the game when it is the "marquee" game of this round; the indigenous round

We should embrace the hype, the build up and everything else that comes along with it

Outside of the ANZAC day game this should be the next biggest game on the H&A season and we as a club should be doing everything in our power to make sure it is

Do you feel the same surrounding the hype at the start of the season???? Big build up = big let down lately.... :-\
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2013, 01:58:20 PM

Do you feel the same surrounding the hype at the start of the season???? Big build up = big let down lately.... :-\

Doesn't worry me one or another to be honest, it's round 1 there's always going to be hype.

With Round 1 I certainly don't get worked up if we lose it and think seasons over just like I don't buy into we are going to make finals if we win it. It is what it is  ;D

But this game is different, this game is the showcase for this round, it's important, it gets embraced by all footy fans so it brings alot of hype and involves more than the game itself. 

Therefore, the hype is different and it's great for us. Love this game and what it stands for  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 26, 2013, 12:06:37 AM
Ivan
got nurdered tonight
Ryder pants him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 26, 2013, 12:28:49 AM
Ivan
got nurdered tonight
Ryder pants him
Has been murdered all year. Maric is fast  becoming a one hit wonder. I am concerned we have placed too much faith in him. Its time to either develop own decent ruck or find another.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 01:03:47 AM
Yep Ivan can hardly raise a gallop now, nor jump over a jam tin atm.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 26, 2013, 01:16:25 AM
Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 01:22:29 AM
Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.

Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 26, 2013, 01:25:44 AM
Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.

Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.

wowee boy o boy  there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 01:29:23 AM
Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.

Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.

wowee boy o boy  there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me  :-[ :-[ :-[

You know what is even sadder TM. We are still up at 1:30 am after a demoralising loss thinking about this crap and trying to figure out a way to rectify it when we know these problems will never be rectified not in the short term at least. :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 26, 2013, 01:33:19 AM
Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.

Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.

wowee boy o boy  there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me  :-[ :-[ :-[

You know what is even sadder TM. We are still up at 1:30 am after a demoralising loss thinking about this crap and trying to figure out a way to rectify it when we know these problems will never be rectified not in the short term at least. :help

 :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 26, 2013, 01:43:56 AM
Yer lets be honest we broke him.  >:(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on May 26, 2013, 08:44:09 AM
Didnt we take Batchelor in front of Parker and didnt we take Griffiths infront of Carlisle? Just asking as I havent checked it but Im pretty sure with Batchelor its correct as I wanted us to pick Parker who went to the swannies.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2013, 11:09:08 AM
Didnt we take Batchelor in front of Parker and didnt we take Griffiths infront of Carlisle? Just asking as I havent checked it but Im pretty sure with Batchelor its correct as I wanted us to pick Parker who went to the swannies.

Took Fiona instead of Pav too
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on May 26, 2013, 11:11:13 AM
Bring back Gus Graham.

Maric is woeful.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
Bring back Gus Graham.

Maric is woeful.

Agree, been keeping this sig for ages to prove I always had faith in the King Island Cream Puff
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 26, 2013, 11:34:53 AM
They all should be hung, drawn and quartered! We haven't developed 1 lousy Ruckman in 30 years  :scream
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on May 26, 2013, 11:45:41 AM
we should get the midget from fantasy island and hope he can jump  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: DCrane on May 26, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
Our mids have gone back to having to try and read the opposition ruckman's taps, ala the King Island cream puff era. Sad state of affairs really. Orren is the in form ruck and should never have been dropped.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Our over reliance on Maric was a big concern and has now blown up in our face.

The big O is not the answer
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 26, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
Watched Maric in the warm ups last night
His kicking is a joke
And when he does kick in play, he kicks it 20 metres and misses the target.
We got smashed in the middle last night due to our inabilty to put first hand on ball, end of story
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.

Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stripes on May 28, 2013, 12:26:46 PM
Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.

Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL

There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 28, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.

Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL

There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.
:clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 28, 2013, 02:12:06 PM
Bring back Gus Graham.

Maric is woeful.

 :lol but really  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on May 28, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.

Was given a rest over the off season to return for this season and that has obviously failed.

Maric has made a slower start to the pre-season than he would like, after he was bothered by soft-tissue problems towards the end of last season.
"I'm feeling good. I'm just taking a bit longer to ease into training because I was really battling towards the end of the year with my groin," he said.
"So I'm just really trying to strengthen everything up so these problems don't happen. I didn't have an operation, it was more rest and rehabilitation."
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14065.msg344296#msg344296

This was after Maric was played for the last third of 2012 but did not do full training.

Lade said the club would give Maric all the time he needed to get right.
"We're not going to push him at all. We pushed him last year to play some games when we probably should have rested him and with (Tyrone) Vickery going down that hurt Ivan more than anyone," Lade said.
"He gets a bit worried that he's not training and not doing what he needs to get his body right, but we know he works hard and when he does get back into training he'll be up and going."  
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 28, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
 :facepalm
Title: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2013, 03:17:18 PM
Maric 'the freshest he's been'
By Nathan Schmook
2:48pm AEST Friday, May 31, 2013


RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says ruckman Ivan Maric is as fresh as he's been all season heading into Monday night's key battle against West Coast duo Nic Naitanui and Dean Cox at Patersons Stadium.

Maric suffered an ankle injury against Geelong in round six and he was rested against Melbourne in round eight after playing through the problem for one week.

His form is yet to reach the heights of 2012 when he pushed for All Australian selection but Hardwick said he was up for the challenge of taking on the Eagles' dominant duo.

"He's probably the freshest he's been," Hardwick said on Friday.

"Last year towards the latter stages of the year he did get very tired because he had a huge burden to bear.

"This year it's been a bit of a slower build up for him but he's starting to hit some good form now which we're excited by."

Vice-captain Brett Deledio trained on Friday afternoon and will be fit to take on the Eagles after suffering a knock to his knee in last Saturday night's loss to Essendon.

Young midfielder Reece Conca will play 70 minutes in the VFL this weekend before making his return for Richmond following the round 11 bye. 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-31/maric-fresh-deledio-fit
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Stripes on May 31, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
Interesting. I thought they would swap out Maric for the Big O late. Would be difficult to do on the back of that article/comment now. Really needs to step up against the best ruck combination in the league. Can't see it happening unfortunately with Nick Nat jumping all over him I would imagine
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 31, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Lol @ starting to hit form
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 31, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
Lol @ starting to hit form
As I said last week he is just another BS artist in the league of Spud and Wallet.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on May 31, 2013, 04:27:05 PM
lets see if he can move freely, jump and kick ( if he gets the ball  :P) on monday and then we can truly determine the bull plop quantity of the statement
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: dwaino on May 31, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
Thought this was an ad for Tena Lady.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: bojangles17 on May 31, 2013, 06:45:04 PM
That's a bloody relief, we need him firing, perhaps he can get an inch off the ground this week :shh
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Golfprotiger on May 31, 2013, 06:45:10 PM
He will need to be fresh against Nic Nat & Big Cox!!! :help
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on May 31, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
That's a bloody relief, we need him firing, perhaps he can get an inch off the ground this week :shh
wanna buy a bridge?
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 31, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
Thought this was an ad for Tena Lady.
:lol
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on May 31, 2013, 07:13:50 PM
So does that mean we have been playing him underdone all year.......there's a surprise.....NOT!
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 31, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
Maybe the new ruck rules have had an impact on him.

.... Or maybe he's a one season wonder.  :whistle
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on May 31, 2013, 08:51:40 PM
If you call hobbling around like your 50 fresh, then yeah he's fresh
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 01, 2013, 08:07:52 AM
I'm starting to get a real spud frawley, wallet feel about some of hardwicks statements.

He is playing rubbish this year. What form when you drop sitters and can't run.

Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Simonator on June 01, 2013, 08:20:22 AM
Doesnt mean he is 100%.. Just means the rest of the year he was well below fit to play.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tdy on June 01, 2013, 09:03:13 AM
lets see if he can move freely, jump and kick ( if he gets the ball  :P) on monday and then we can truly determine the bull plop quantity of the statement

Luckily it's a long break, the extra day will help him, though it helps nic nat too.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: dwaino on June 01, 2013, 09:12:45 AM
I'm starting to get a real spud frawley, wallet feel about some of hardwicks statements.

He is playing rubbish this year. What form when you drop sitters and can't run.

Would get you a game in the Aussie cricket side  ;D
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 09:14:12 AM
Yep and at 38 balding, tired, overworked and married I'm the best looking I've ever been.
Look out ladies, Tuckers opening his harem.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Darth Tiger on June 01, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Maric is clearly struggling to turn in the harbour let alone on the field.  12 months ago was in AA form, and up & about.

Get a 2nd decent Ruck option by looking to develop a young tall in the role at Coburg instead of recycled 30 y.o re-tread that cannot support the #1 ruck.

FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Yeahright on June 01, 2013, 01:09:30 PM

FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.

We don't have that many
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 01, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 01:55:14 PM
Maric is clearly struggling to turn in the harbour let alone on the field.  12 months ago was in AA form, and up & about.

Get a 2nd decent Ruck option by looking to develop a young tall in the role at Coburg instead of recycled 30 y.o re-tread that cannot support the #1 ruck.

FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.

Exactly therein lies the problem.
No trust in juniors or second players in a set position.
Play bloke till we bust him and then back to square one.
RFC we do things by halves rebuilds and recruiting.
Malakies we go the whole way.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on June 01, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury

= freshest he's been = Jackson is our best player this season = Malakies
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Willy on June 01, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 06:28:33 PM
When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that.  :thumbsup

How about Arnot at Coburg Lonergan still at Richmond.
Enough for me. Malakies
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: bojangles17 on June 01, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury

That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on June 01, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
We are absolutely stuffed, may as well throw another midfielder in there and play without a ruck
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 06:34:45 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury

That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh

Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: bojangles17 on June 01, 2013, 07:32:29 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury

That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh

Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.

Has been in the best a few times and getting a bit of it, TBh i would have tried something coming against nicnat, perhaps big o form was too ordinary , dunno but we ve invested heavily in maric improving by 500% on what he's shown in recent weeks :huh
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 08:42:37 PM
Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury

That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh

Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.

Has been in the best a few times and getting a bit of it, TBh i would have tried something coming against nicnat, perhaps big o form was too ordinary , dunno but we ve invested heavily in maric improving by 500% on what he's shown in recent weeks :huh

Big O played against Melbourne two weeks ago. Would have played him on Monday with Ivan. Derickx unfortunately ain't it. Maric needs the help we are just playing whatever ruckmen and tells we have  in very much a wrong way that hinders the side.
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: bojangles17 on June 01, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 09:20:34 PM
Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?

Unless you try you never know but if one bloke is playing injured then you would think it would be wise to play two ruckmen against a hot Nic Nat and Coxy. :help
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on June 01, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?

Depends, is it a requirement that we are competitive?
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on June 01, 2013, 09:49:05 PM
When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that.  :thumbsup

He was in passable form at best,  was only butchering the ball occasionally as opposed to regularly. Was hardly setting the comp alight and certainly wasn't our best.  Was a ridiculous statement tbh
Title: Re: Maric 'the freshest he's been' - Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: The Big Richo on June 01, 2013, 11:01:05 PM
This type of wacky thinking could be the start of a Garry 'Buddha' Hocking style coaching reign from Damien.

Be afraid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BidWRsqlY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BidWRsqlY)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on June 18, 2013, 04:20:35 AM
Big Ivan looked a lot freer in his movements on Saturday. More like his old self that we saw in the first half of last year. He was using his bulk to create space at the stoppages for our mids and he was pushing back to take defensive marks. Hopefully the week off a few weeks ago plus the Bye has done the trick  :pray.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Owl on June 18, 2013, 09:22:04 AM
He played a corker, took some great pack grabs and slotted a few goals.  Might see him up and about in the business end of the season by the looks, nice timing.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on June 18, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
we should rest Ivan again vs GWS and bring in Stephenson for that game. Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on June 18, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals  ;D
Vs Gold Coast
Out-Ivan
IN-Derricx
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on June 18, 2013, 10:14:20 AM
Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals  ;D
Vs Gold Coast
Out-Ivan
IN-Derricx

 :lol >:(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on June 18, 2013, 10:35:49 AM
Was actually jumping on the weekend. Remarkable.
Really hope this is the norm again now.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 21, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Ivan is in the top 5 in the official AFL ratings for ruckmen ...

Naitanui    576
McEvoy     435
Goldstein  428
Ryder        425
Maric         412

http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/ratings-hub
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on June 21, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
Where's big Willy Style?

AFL.com had Minson in their AA side this week...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Golfprotiger on June 22, 2013, 10:17:40 PM
Ivan , finding form I feel :clapping  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Muscles on June 22, 2013, 10:20:40 PM
I thought Minson cut him a new one ....
Title: Ivan Maric wins important battle against Bulldogs rival Will Minson (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2013, 12:25:01 AM
Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric wins important battle against Bulldogs rival Will Minson

    Glenn McFarlane
    From: Herald Sun
    June 23, 2013


AS far as man mountains go, Ivan Maric and Will Minson are almost as powerful and imposing as they come.

Get in their way at your own peril.

And when the two bulky ruckmen crashed into each other at the first bounce last night - and for countless bounces and ball-ups across four quarters - the clunking of a collective 209 kilos against each other proved an intriguing battle in the Richmond-Western Bulldogs clash.

In match full of interesting personal battles - Brett Deledio and Liam Picken; and Trent Cotchin and Matthew Boyd to name a few - the Maric-Minson match-up was a must-watch.

And both men threw themselves into the contest in body and soul.

The importance of both these ruckmen to their respective sides cannot be undervalued - and last night underpinned the reasons why.

Minson has been outstanding so far this season and if he continues the form of the first 13 rounds, big Will is destined for his first All-Australian selection.

He's done it through sheer weight of numbers and sheer strength.

Maric is once more gaining momentum after having a few issues with his body earlier in the season.

He is a warrior and never stops giving his all.

Minson was always likely to hold the hit-out sway last night, but Maric knew he could minimise the damage by competing and charging at every contest.

And that's exactly what he did, and coach Damien Hardwick would have been delighted with Maric's output and sheer hard work.

Minson narrowly led the hit-outs in the first hour - 19 to 15 - but Maric held the possession sway - seven to three.

At half-time, the Tigers had 10 centre clearances to four, while the Dogs held sway on general clearances 19 to 16.

By the end of the game, Minson had marginally won the hit-out count head-to-head with Maric - 38 to 23 - but Hardwick would have been pleased with that.

Disposal-wise, the two big men locked it level with 10 disposals each.

And the centre clearances was in the Dogs' way, but only by one.

Given Minson's impact so far this season, that's a win for Maric.

Maric had some cameo assistance from Ty Vickery - 33 minutes of it in total - while Minson had to go it alone for almost all of the night.

It was a fascinating duel and Maric more than held his own, negating somewhat the influence of Minson, and giving his team plenty of strength and support.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-wins-important-battle-against-bulldogs-rival-will-minson/story-fndv8t7m-1226668137607
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 23, 2013, 01:15:11 AM
Thought Maric clearly won the first half and then the 2nd half Minson got on top a little bit. 50-50 at the end of the game. Maric seemed more active around the ground IMO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 23, 2013, 06:12:01 AM
This is a BS artcle.. Minson gave maric a whipping

we only dominated in the ruck late when TV went in and played better than maric in the ruck role
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 23, 2013, 06:23:40 AM
This is a BS artcle.. Minson gave maric a whipping

we only dominated in the ruck late when TV went in and played better than maric in the ruck role
Sounds like the kind of BS report from someone who never saw the game, take it from me partner, he took him to the cleaners :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 23, 2013, 09:33:59 AM
bs
i was at the game  and watched the replay already, minson beat ivan
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on June 23, 2013, 09:48:52 AM
I thought Maric had a blinder of a first quarter,and then was more than serviceable for the rest of the game.Fingers crossed his injury issues are now behind him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on June 23, 2013, 02:51:31 PM
Maric must be injured IMHO. Been a disappointing season this year and has failed to build on last seasons effort.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 03, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
RFC website is saying Ivan is 1-2 weeks away. So he could even miss the Gold Coast game as well  :-\.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Siberian on July 03, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
The redemption starring Tom Dericks
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on July 03, 2013, 11:05:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on July 04, 2013, 02:54:33 AM
Bring back Tommy D for 2 reasons.

a) We need a loss soon. This place is getting dull.

b) we need a scapegoat for that loss for a good venting thread.
Title: Groin soreness to plague Maric for remainder of career (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on July 04, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Groin soreness to plague Maric for remainder of career

By Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
Thursday, July 4, 2013


RICHMOND ruckman Ivan Maric will have to manage groin soreness for the rest of his career but will return to the Tigers' team in round 16 against Gold Coast, Tigers coach Damien Hardwick says.

Maric missed the Tigers' win over St Kilda last Sunday and has already been ruled out of this Saturday's clash with North Melbourne.

But Hardwick said on Thursday Maric's injury was not a concern as the Tigers get closer to their first finals appearance since 2001.

"The big thing for him is just getting his body right. It's going to be an ongoing issue throughout the remainder of his career," Hardwick said.

"He's just got to manage his body. We've got to keep strengthening that core area. Every year around this time he probably needs a couple of weeks off to get the remainder of the year up and going.

"He'll be fine. Next week he'll be available to play."

Hardwick said the heavy load Maric carries as Richmond's number one ruckmen inevitably took a toll as the season wore on.

"Funnily enough it still does need some load going through there, but it's just the constant grind of the ruck contest," Hardwick said.

"You look at the start of the year the stoppage numbers are about 85 a game, now they're up over about 115 so they're going up again.

"So it's that constant battle and Ivan probably does, a bit like Will Minson does (for the Western Bulldogs), about 90 per cent of our ruck work, at centre bounces and ruck contests.

"It's just always going to catch up to him at some stage."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-04/groin-soreness-a-maric-curse
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
VIDEO: Ivan's heritage ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-11/ivans-heritage


Apparently he's back this week too  :pray :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on July 14, 2013, 04:12:20 AM
Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on July 14, 2013, 11:44:42 AM
and take a contested mark. The mark that he wasn't paid was an atrocious umpiring decision
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 14, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.
To be fair to the others, he was only up against a skinny kid (who I think will be very good in the long run - maybe we should target him considering Smith is ahead of him in the pecking order).
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on July 14, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
Yeah i like the look of that Nicholls chap.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on July 14, 2013, 12:30:06 PM
Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.

Hey don't be like that sister. Big Beef had 19 and would have had more if someone in a gimp suit wasn't sharing ruck duties with him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on July 14, 2013, 12:49:21 PM
There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 14, 2013, 01:24:13 PM
We need a ruckman big time

Maric is battered. Thought he competed but lets be honest should've slaughtered those opp rucks

Time to ook at Gorringe from GC
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Simonator on July 14, 2013, 02:06:33 PM
I think if we are looking for more ruckmen, look no further than geelong. They have 4 ruckmen that are all far better than stephenson.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dustin credible on July 14, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
What about Mumford?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 14, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
What about Mumford?
And Sydney will let go their no.1 ruck?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 14, 2013, 03:15:38 PM
apparently there is a sticking point in their contract negotiations over length of contract and they do have strong lineup of talls, so its not beyond the realms of possibility.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 15, 2013, 11:00:55 AM
There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.

Nicholls is 3rd in line up there, offer the boy the world and he will come.
The other two possabilitys are Bellchambers or Zac Clarke. Both are the right age and out of contract, either could  service us nicely through the next few years of finals appearances  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on July 15, 2013, 12:26:25 PM
Interesting what happens to Essendon. Could make it easy (although others would have interest) or very hard to get Bellchambers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on July 15, 2013, 12:43:05 PM
There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.

Nicholls is 3rd in line up there, offer the boy the world and he will come.
The other two possabilitys are Bellchambers or Zac Clarke. Both are the right age and out of contract, either could  service us nicely through the next few years of finals appearances  ;D

Clarke re-signed last month. A real bummer because I was pretty keen on him too.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on July 15, 2013, 01:16:05 PM
I think Currie would be a very likely option or Blicavs from the Cats but I think they will hang onto him as a future #1 ruckman.
Only watched one Coburg game this year but is the Beaner doing much ruck work? The game I saw he was playing up forward for most of it.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 15, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
Interesting what happens to Essendon. Could make it easy (although others would have interest) or very hard to get Bellchambers

Would love Bellchambers. Good ruckman and very handy as a resting forward. Still relatively young too. Would still keep Orren on the list though. Will leave us with four ruckmen and McBean developing nicely down at Coburg too. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 16, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
Jesse White anyone?
Can play ruck & forward.  :thumbsup
He'll be cheap, which will be a plus considering we need $$$ for Jack and Martin.  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 16, 2013, 12:32:25 AM
Everyone keeps telling me he's poo...

Looks alright to me
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 16, 2013, 12:43:17 AM
I think Currie would be a very likely option or Blicavs from the Cats but I think they will hang onto him as a future #1 ruckman.
Only watched one Coburg game this year but is the Beaner doing much ruck work? The game I saw he was playing up forward for most of it.

He's doing Ruck all Rucking, if you will......
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on July 16, 2013, 12:44:27 AM
Robbie Warnock from Carlton would be a good backup or even primary IMO. 206cm and gets a lot of hitouts.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 16, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
Yes to Currie, Gorringe, Bellchambers.  No to Warnock.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigger on July 16, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
What about Clarke from Freo - their third string ruckman?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 16, 2013, 03:57:38 PM
What about Clarke from Freo - their third string ruckman?
Re-signed a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 16, 2013, 05:18:08 PM
Currie was top shelf vs us pre season

Would be happy

Currie
Clarke
Gorridge
Nichols

Dont want bell chambers or Jessie white
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 16, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
why change?
Maric is a gun,yes he has some injury issues ,which the club is aware of and seems to be managing.
Ty fills in when needed and this part of his game seems to be improving more than his forward play.
McBean is coming along just nicely,and we have Giff who if he can up his contribution ,would fill another of the talls position.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 16, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
Cause if maric does a knee we are left with Derick and orren.

Mcbean is too good for the ruck
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on July 16, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
Currie was top shelf vs us pre season

Would be happy

Currie
Clarke
Gorridge
Nichols

Dont want bell chambers or Jessie white

Why not bellchambers?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 16, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Cause I dislike Essen Don.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 16, 2013, 05:31:15 PM
all the more reason to pinch a player off them
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on July 16, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
Cause I dislike Essen Don.

He wouldn't be Essen Don if he came to us.   ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 16, 2013, 06:14:19 PM
he'd still have drugs in his system....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 19, 2013, 01:11:53 PM
Maric has moved up a spot and is now rated the 4th best ruckman in the AFL.

http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/ratings-hub.workstation

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2013, 04:25:42 AM
Tiger tall can still shine

  Matthew James, Footy Prophet
     The Age
    August 2, 2013



Ivan Maric was the breakout sweetheart of 2012, mesmerising footy supporters with his flowing mullet and on-field presence. He left Adelaide after being starved of opportunities and walked into the top job at Richmond. His maiden season was dominant, playing all but one game and ranking as the second best fantasy ruckman behind all-star Dean Cox.

Maric's instant success came from his rapport with on-ballers Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck and Brett Deledio, and the quartet each produced career-best seasons. The Tigers as a group have improved significantly this season, and look set to play finals. Despite the progress, that midfield quartet has surprisingly gone backwards significantly in fantasy terms. All four were effectively 100-point fantasy players or better - in 2013 none are at that level.

Maric, in particular, has had his struggles, despite retaining the No. 1 ruck mantle at the club. He has missed three games through injury and his around-the-ground impact has declined. Ty Vickery has come on a little, although he is hardly taking significant time away from Maric. Vickery's hitouts have jumped to eight per game, but that's still reflective of a relief option rather than a time-share ruck arrangement employed by Sydney or West Coast.

Maric's fantasy scoring has settled into a middle-of-the-road pattern. He has only scored 90 points once , after achieving it 14 times in 2012. His fantasy average has dropped almost 30 points per game, yet the Tigers are winning more matches. Maric has struggled in particular against the one-two ruck combos clubs are increasingly deploying this year.

Despite this, Maric's fantasy prospects are looking up in the lead-up to Ultimate Footy finals. Over the next four weeks he will face Max Bailey, Matthew Leuenberger, Matthew Kreuzer and Jon Giles. Maric won't have to contend with two legitimate ruck opponents and, on this basis, his numbers should improve. The next month for his fantasy owners is the most important of all.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/ultimate-footy-news/tiger-tall-can-still-shine-20130801-2r28t.html#ixzz2ak8sFc21
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 25, 2013, 10:13:10 PM
Good to see Ivan moving freely. After quarter time, he tore the game apart in the ruck and was back to racking up his own clearances out of the middle. He also kicked a couple while 'resting' up forward.

It'll be interesting to see if we decide to give him a 'rest' (as part of managing his body) given next week would be the last chance to do so and then let him rip into the finals or if we decide to not mess with form and just play him against the Bombers.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on August 25, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
May be down on last year but I reckon he's added another string this year. Last year he plodded a bit up forward but a few times this year he's been able to actually play as a forward, lead, clunk a few contested grabs and kick a few from set shots.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on August 25, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
There's this New Mexican drug that hasn't been approved or banned by asada or awada.. I reckon we should inject his groin for finals.

He's playing good but Cherry ripe he will be
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 25, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
its seems like its ok to play with drugs seeing as Jobe and friends are still running around.

We should shoot them up full of riods, pigs brain, etc.  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 26, 2013, 10:15:21 AM
Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 26, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
Mighty Maric slays Giants
By richmondfc.com.au
3:22pm AEST Monday, August 26, 2013


Key Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric responded superbly to the gauntlet being thrown down to him during the quarter-time break of yesterday’s clash with the Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.

Maric, who lowered his colors to experienced ruck counterpart Dean Brogan in the opening term, was the architect of the Tigers’ brilliant second-quarter blitz, which netted them 11.5 to the Giants’ solitary point.

Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/mighty-maric-slays-giants
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 26, 2013, 06:15:38 PM
Mighty Maric slays Giants
By richmondfc.com.au
3:22pm AEST Monday, August 26, 2013


Key Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric responded superbly to the gauntlet being thrown down to him during the quarter-time break of yesterday’s clash with the Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.

Maric, who lowered his colors to experienced ruck counterpart Dean Brogan in the opening term, was the architect of the Tigers’ brilliant second-quarter blitz, which netted them 11.5 to the Giants’ solitary point.

Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/mighty-maric-slays-giants

Was told the X man was going to take his spot if be didn't pull his finger out
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on August 26, 2013, 06:27:19 PM
Geez I've got my wires crossed on what slaying is.  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: RedanTiger on August 26, 2013, 06:44:15 PM
Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.

Did that last year for the off season.
As stated himself in an interview, it was a rest and recuperation program.
The result was as you see this year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 26, 2013, 07:01:47 PM
Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.

Did that last year for the off season.
As stated himself in an interview, it was a rest and recuperation program.
The result was as you see this year.

when I say rest I mean complete break away, rest in afl terms means doing every other session  but its still likely inflaming. Id give him 3 months off, come back early December and ease into it
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 26, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
No sex on his honeymoon either. Groin gets complete rest. RFC interests come first.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 26, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
At qtr time, he just said, "Jebiga!"
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 26, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
At qtr time, he just said, "Jebiga!"

To Dean Brogan he did. Dean is still scratching his head. All goes back to their days in Adelaide. ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 26, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 26, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic

Brogan is long for Bogan.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on August 28, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic

Brogan is long for Bogan.

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on August 28, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic

Brogan is long for Bogan.
:lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 09, 2013, 07:23:49 AM
His snap goal in the last quarter was one of the most amazing and awe inspiring goals ive seen live, and I thought that would lift the team. Suprisingly for all of his hard work they conceded not long after..
Played a great game and battled all day

Racked up 87 supercoach points alone in the last quarter
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on September 09, 2013, 08:10:18 AM
Totally agree. Never stopped trying.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 09:14:21 AM
His snap goal in the last quarter was one of the most amazing and awe inspiring goals ive seen live, and I thought that would lift the team. Suprisingly for all of his hard work they conceded not long after..
Played a great game and battled all day

Racked up 87 supercoach points alone in the last quarter

Was a true leader in that last quarter didn't have many mates
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 09, 2013, 10:49:33 AM
We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.

Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 09, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
Grigg is not good enough.

Chaplin I am still not sure about. Astbury is very important. If he stagnates the list is in trouble
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.

Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun

Jay Shultz down forward would have been handy yesterday.

 :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 09, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
Not sure why you're laughing about it. He certainly would have been handy.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 09, 2013, 10:55:47 AM
We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.

Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun

Jay Shultz down forward would have been handy yesterday.

 :lol

Im not happy with hardwick and the mcgaune/aaron edwards situation.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 09, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
Not sure why you're laughing about it. He certainly would have been handy.

yep. damm straight he wouldve been
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 09, 2013, 12:10:02 PM
Sorry Bents had to remove you link

Just a big green blurry blob and wasn't woking properly

Make it smaller and it should work better
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 09, 2013, 12:52:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3e5JwB5.jpg
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on September 09, 2013, 11:07:22 PM
Just watched the replay of that goal.

Wow.

Really love this bloke!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 09, 2013, 11:12:29 PM
His attitude leaves the whole teams for dead!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 10, 2013, 07:11:07 AM
His attitude leaves the whole teams for dead!

In a word....................


LEADERSHIP
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on September 10, 2013, 07:32:46 AM
Maric is a GEM.  :thumbsup He sucked it up.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 10, 2013, 11:29:36 AM
We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.

Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun

That's why I gave him votes , when most of the other tigers were AWOL the big fella stood up
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2013, 05:44:57 PM
We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.

Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun

good stuff coach
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Simonator on September 11, 2013, 06:23:53 PM
Just watched the replay for the first time since the tragedy.

Ivan's goal on the run in the last 10 minutes is ridiculous. Even though I knew the outcome it still gave me hope... Absolute leader and warrior, we need more players like him.
His passionate celebration doesn't get any better !!!

Love him
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 04, 2013, 04:38:41 PM
The Big Ivvy has got married  :clapping


Tone Greenberg ‏@TigerlandTone twitter:

"Hearty congrats to big Ivvy, now hitched to the stunning Erin. Maybe he'll miss Rd 19? #9months #manicuredmullet "

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYMCTn1CEAEbUHd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on November 04, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
photo taken outside his fortress
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 05, 2013, 04:23:41 PM
Cotch with Big Ivvy at the wedding ...

(http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/ba00b56a459611e3813a22000a1f8f34_8.jpg)
http://instagram.com/p/gTrsisKz23/#
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on November 05, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
Never did get the haircut :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on November 05, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
Never did get the haircut :lol

 ;D I recall the talk was  the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -

 but srsly Ivan - like a boss  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on November 05, 2013, 07:45:12 PM
Has cotch's wedding happened yet?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 06, 2013, 12:09:18 AM
Has cotch's wedding happened yet?

Yep
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 06, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
Has cotch's wedding happened yet?

Yep

Really  :nope

You obviously don't follow Cotch on twitter  :lol

Never did get the haircut :lol

 ;D I recall the talk was  the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -

 but srsly Ivan - like a boss  :thumbsup

His "mrs" said at the B&F she didn't mind the mullet and it could and would stay
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on November 06, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Cotch got engaged last summer, doubt he's tied the knot yet.

Good to see the mullet is staying. Obviously his Mrs has realised how important a cult figure is at a club like RFC :)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on November 06, 2013, 07:52:44 PM
Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on November 06, 2013, 07:54:33 PM
Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?

Do you mean girl friend or a good ....?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on November 06, 2013, 07:57:54 PM
oh......I meant girl friend
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 06, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
Connors...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on November 06, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
lol..surprised that answer took so long
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on November 06, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
Has cotch's wedding happened yet?

Yep

Really  :nope

You obviously don't follow Cotch on twitter  :lol

Never did get the haircut :lol

 ;D I recall the talk was  the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -

 but srsly Ivan - like a boss  :thumbsup

His "mrs" said at the B&F she didn't mind the mullet and it could and would stay

shes come around then  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on November 06, 2013, 09:02:52 PM
Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Based on him turning up to the Brownlow and B&F with a teammate, it doesn't look like it. Although he posted this on twitter the other day ...


@DustinMartin4 - "LA familia"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYIRL1XCcAAztGA.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/DustinMartin4/status/396898612312961024/photo/1
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on November 06, 2013, 10:55:23 PM
Well my 7/10 mate from work who went to one of those functions last year reckons her 10-DD rack didn't get half a glance when she asked him for a photo lol.

If you were Dusty would you want a GF? I'd probably have a new one every round in each city...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 06, 2013, 11:32:58 PM
Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Based on him turning up to the Brownlow and B&F with a teammate, it doesn't look like it. Although he posted this on twitter the other day ...


@DustinMartin4 - "LA familia"


LMAO - stuff i love this kid.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYIRL1XCcAAztGA.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/DustinMartin4/status/396898612312961024/photo/1
Title: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on February 08, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Big Tiger Maric moving well
Jennifer Phelan 
afl.com.au
February 8, 2014 11:00 AM



POST-SEASON groin surgery has freed Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric of the nagging soreness that has plagued him in recent seasons.

The 28-year-old former Adelaide big man has been managing the injury recently, with coach Damien Hardwick admitting last season it was something he'd always have to deal with.

However, an operation at the end of the year has reduced Maric's discomfort and he has trained to a high level throughout the pre-season.

"He had a groin op towards the end of last year but he's been training fully for us," forward line coach Brendon Lade told AFL.com.au on Friday.

"It really helped, the operation.

"He’s a big player for our team and we need him playing."

Maric has still been managed through some sessions and it is yet to be decided what his involvement will be in the NAB Challenge, which starts for Richmond next Friday night against Melbourne.

The Tigers are certainly planning on him being part of their team in round one against Gold Coast on March 15.

The ruckman will no doubt benefit from the acquisition of Shaun Hampson, who is expected to spend time in attack and help Maric around the ground.

"He's loving that he's going to have Hampson around to help him share the load a bit, so we're very excited to get them playing together and playing well because it's going to cause headaches for a few teams," Lade said.

"Having the workload he (Maric) had over the past two years, we probably contributed to the injury as coaches but he was all we had.”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-08/big-tiger-gets-some-relief
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 08, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
This is very good news, let's hope he can have the same impact he did in his first year with us, he actually didn't go too bad last year but you could tell he wasn't right.
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: the claw on February 08, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
This is very good news, let's hope he can have the same impact he did in his first year with us, he actually didn't go too bad last year but you could tell he wasn't right.
best news ive heard all off season. ivan was always a competitor and does a lot of the little things that never get recognition.
almost the most important cog in the side. been a great pick up and on this i really do congratulate em.
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: yellowandback on February 09, 2014, 06:06:20 AM
Maric, Chaplin, Knights are all players we picked up from other clubs who have chronic injury issues or are injury prone.
They have proven to be great pick ups - particularly Chaplin and Maric but my hope is that we are getting more than one or two consistent years of games from them.
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 09, 2014, 11:02:45 AM
Looks like he'll be underdone early in the season if he had surgery
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Gigantor on February 09, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
Mrakov..you're freaking me out man with those negative vibes....Jump on the tiger bus ,at least for now
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 09, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
Mrakov..you're freaking me out man with those negative vibes....Jump on the tiger bus ,at least for now

He hasn't trained all pre season, just ran laps. Not being negative, I'm just a realist
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Gigantor on February 09, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
Mrakov I certainly don't want to question nor stop you from having an opinion,but read the article again..it says hes been training fully for us,only that hes been managed through some sessions
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 09, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
Mrakov I certainly don't want to question nor stop you from having an opinion,but read the article again..it says hes been training fully for us,only that hes been managed through some sessions

Please. He's been running laps only. Hasn't touched a football since that snap goal in the elim final
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on February 09, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
Half laps the word is   :shh
Title: Re: Big Tiger Maric moving well after post-season surgery (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 09, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
McMaric  :clapping
Title: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 04, 2014, 11:43:05 AM
No second fiddle for Tiger Maric

Jennifer Phelan 
afl.com.au
April 4, 2014



A PRE-SEASON starved of football due to a pesky ankle injury has left Richmond big man Ivan Maric determined to reclaim the position of his club’s No.1 ruckman in the coming months.

Maric, 28, missed all of the Tigers' pre-season games because of surgery to remove bone spurs that were blocking movement in his right ankle in late February.

In his absence, former Blue Shaun Hampson has stepped up as the main Richmond big man with up-and-coming tall Ben Griffiths also starting the year impressively.

Maric says he won't rush his return from surgery and wants to be fit enough to return as the first-choice ruckman who handles crucial centre bounces.

"When the game is on the line and there's a centre bounce there, I want to be in there," Maric told AFL.com.au this week.

"That's what I want. I want to be that person the coach calls upon when the game's on the line.

"I don't want to come back in after not really having a pre-season and not be able to perform at my best."

Before soreness in Maric's ankle forced the operation over summer, the three Richmond big men were training together.

All three are capable of playing forward, which Maric believes will become part of his own game when he gets back in the seniors.

The former Crow says his history of having to deal with ailments, including a problematic hip in 2007 and 2008 when he was at Adelaide, has taught him how to recover with renewed determination.

"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

"I think that comes with a bit of maturity, and having a few injuries and setbacks at Adelaide has developed that side of my career."

Maric started running two weeks ago and will slowly build up, with the next week to determine how quickly – three, four or five weeks – he can push to play.

Having not played a game since the Tigers' elimination final loss to Carlton last year, he acknowledged he would likely start in the VFL.

And, having watched West Coast combine ruckmen Dean Cox, Nic Naitanui and Callum Sinclair in rounds one and two, Maric is anticipating he will form part of a new ruck trio for the Tigers.

"It's been really hard [watching] but really exciting because Shaun's doing really well and is a great person," he said.

"You could tell that straight away from his first day and then guys like Ben Griffiths are really doing well.

"Ben’s body's coping really well and he's training really well and has had a good pre-season so he's been playing that second ruck role.

"It's been exciting to watch."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-04/maric-im-no-1-ruckman
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 04, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
 Love his determination..
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Simonator on April 04, 2014, 11:53:48 AM
Can't wait for his return !! He is crucial to our team.. No just his position but the leader ship he brings. Remember that goal in the final against Carlton ? Gives me goose bumps. He will create selection problems which isn't really a bad thing. I reckon hampson will be stuck in the 2's and he will be fighting for griffo's spot. Great for the team and hopefully the right people are rewarded for form.
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on April 04, 2014, 12:02:53 PM
Can't wait for his return !! He is crucial to our team.. No just his position but the leader ship he brings. Remember that goal in the final against Carlton ? Gives me goose bumps. He will create selection problems which isn't really a bad thing. I reckon hampson will be stuck in the 2's and he will be fighting for griffo's spot. Great for the team and hopefully the right people are rewarded for form.
Makes 21 other blokes walk taller and play better.
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 04, 2014, 01:06:07 PM
Surely maric and griff both play in the best side
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: the claw on April 04, 2014, 03:55:07 PM
Surely maric and griff both play in the best side
yep hampson does too bye bye vickery bye bye son. ;)
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on April 04, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 04, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in.  It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on April 04, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
what are you on about?
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 04, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Does he still have that haircut?
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Smokey on April 04, 2014, 08:59:43 PM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in.  It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping

Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.

Bellchambers placed on long term injury list

Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.

Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.

The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.


http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Stripes on April 04, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
The Big O will have his work cut out for him this week. Minson was the premier 'crash and bash' ruckman of the league last year. Maric matched up well on Minson in the past and allowed our midfielders to win the ball off their own merit rather than have to rove to the oppositions taps. I  :pray the Big O can create a nil all draw in the middle to allow us a similar luxury.
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: cub on April 04, 2014, 09:19:55 PM
God I hope so per subject!
Think the mincer will kill us around ground gotta nullify with griff and other tells at each end
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 04, 2014, 09:34:43 PM

I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in.  It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping

Not sure what you mean  :huh

Players can be placed on the LTI anytime during the year.

Use Kruzner of the blues as example, he can be out on the LTI now and the Blues can promote a rookie.

We were able to promote 2 rookies before the season started because we are 2 short on our senior list
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on April 05, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in.  It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping

Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.

Bellchambers placed on long term injury list

Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.

Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.

The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.


http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)

Can someone definitively clear this up?

Bc some posters(myself included) are of the same opinion as smokey, whereas others like yabb think it works differently. If we could have elevated him when he first did it, then the clubs has been silly, if you can only begin frtom rnd 1 and have to miss at least 8 weeks then the club made the right decision. Can anyone clarify?
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Smokey on April 05, 2014, 11:43:18 AM
My quote was taken from the official Essendon site Tony so I'm assuming if they did it with Bellchambers on Feb 10th then we could have done it with Maric 2 weeks later.
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Rampstar on April 05, 2014, 12:01:14 PM
our onballers should be roving/ruckroving (for want of better terms) to Minson today. I dont expect alot from Stephenson today.
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on April 05, 2014, 12:37:14 PM
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.

Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it.  :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in.  It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping

Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.

Bellchambers placed on long term injury list

Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.

Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.

The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.


http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)

Can someone definitively clear this up?

Bc some posters(myself included) are of the same opinion as smokey, whereas others like yabb think it works differently. If we could have elevated him when he first did it, then the clubs has been silly, if you can only begin frtom rnd 1 and have to miss at least 8 weeks then the club made the right decision. Can anyone clarify?
The rules do not stipulate anything about being in the season proper, just that the AFL medical officer must approve that the injury is one that requires at least 8 weeks out
Title: Re: No second fiddle for Tiger Maric (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on April 05, 2014, 12:44:48 PM
cheers guys
Title: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on May 03, 2014, 02:53:20 AM
Ivan Maric two weeks away

Brent Diamond
    The Age
    May 3, 2014


The Tigers plan to give ruckman Ivan Maric some game time in his return from an ankle injury against Box Hill in two weeks.

The Tigers have missed Maric but have been cautious with the former Crow since his pre-season ankle surgery.

“Ivan’s joined in training with the main group this week, which is great, he’s feeling really good. We’re looking hopefully to get him some game time in the VFL after the bye,” Tigers elite performance manager Peter Burge said.

It would mean Maric’s likely AFL return would be either in round 10 against Greater Western Sydney or round 11 against Essendon.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/nathan-foley-to-return-in-vfl-on-sunday-ivan-maric-two-weeks-away-20140502-zr39t.html
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 03, 2014, 06:16:44 AM
Slight error folks, he's due back in 2-3 weeks
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: Chuck17 on May 03, 2014, 07:26:54 AM
I will expect 4-6 then
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: Simonator on May 03, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Should have 2 if not 3 games in the VFL, cant risk this bloke.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 03, 2014, 08:57:02 AM
He'll play seniors vs GWS...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 03, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
I like the bit about "Elite performance Manager Peter Burge".

Must be on permanent holidays as I haven't seen any elite performance that has needed to be managed all year!! :lol
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: dwaino on May 03, 2014, 11:00:39 AM
I will expect 4-6 then

Weeks or seasons?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric to return via the VFL in two weeks (Age)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 03, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Should play Seniors against Nought on June 8 then.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 12, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Footy Classified interviewed Big Ivan today and he said he thought he would only be out for 6-8 weeks but the recovery has taken longer than he initially thought. He now just wants to dominate in the VFL so the coaches are forced to pick him for the seniors.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 13, 2014, 05:44:56 AM
He also mentioned he was 2-3 weeks away
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Maric to return via VFL
Mitch Cleary 
May 13, 2014


Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his first appearance of the year in the VFL this weekend after a start to the season hampered by ankle setbacks.

"I‘m going to play about a half in the VFL on Saturday. It’s been a bit of a wait but I’m really looking forward to it," Maric told Footy Classified.

"My ankle is feeling 100 per cent, the best it’s felt for a very long time. I did some really hard training last week and it’s pulled up well. I’m confident going into this week," he said.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-13/maric-to-return-via-vfl
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 13, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
Should play vs GWS
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 13, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Should play vs GWS

This year or next year?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 15, 2014, 09:34:16 AM
Maric to return via VFL
Mitch Cleary 
May 13, 2014


Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his first appearance of the year in the VFL this weekend after a start to the season hampered by ankle setbacks.

"I‘m going to play about a half in the VFL on Saturday. It’s been a bit of a wait but I’m really looking forward to it," Maric told Footy Classified.

"My ankle is feeling 100 per cent, the best it’s felt for a very long time. I did some really hard training last week and it’s pulled up well. I’m confident going into this week," he said.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-13/maric-to-return-via-vfl

Hope he plays well. We have really missed him.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 16, 2014, 10:33:44 PM
Hardwick also said it was likely Ivan Maric would need more than one VFL game, with the ruckman to play 60 minutes this weekend, after overcoming a pre-season ankle injury.

Given Maric and new ruckman Shaun Hampson haven't trained together, let alone played together, Hardwick admitted it could take time for their partnership to jell when they were both in the seniors.

[http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-16/in-the-name-of-tommy#sthash.7BeZ7BCL.dpuf
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 16, 2014, 10:47:23 PM
Bruce said that we could use Derrickx with Ivan out
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 17, 2014, 09:28:10 AM
Good Luck big fella, have a great game

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 17, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Bruce said that we could use Derrickx with Ivan out

Is that why WAT thinks Derickx is a gun now? Angus Graham gives more than Derickx and probably more than Hampson as well. Or maybe all 3 are just equally poo.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 17, 2014, 10:21:43 AM
Our spiritual leader is back on the footy field.  Good luck today Ivan. :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 17, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
Our spiritual leader is back on the footy field.  Good luck today Ivan. :clapping :clapping

Thats exactly how I view him  :thumbsup Good Luck!  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 21, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
Football manager Dan Richardson said it was great to see Maric back on the field, but that he would not be rushed back.

“He got through three quarters and pulled up well, so we’ll look to give him more minutes at VFL level this week before we make a decision on his availability for AFL selection,” he said,

“Ivan is obviously an important player for us, but we want to make sure he is ready to perform at AFL level, and not rush him back too early.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-not-to-be-rushed-back-from-injury-anthony-miles-upgraded-nick-vlastuin-brakes-finger/story-fndv8t7m-1226924099996
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 09:21:45 PM
If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 02, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.

Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on June 02, 2014, 11:30:55 PM
If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.

Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Not all captains need to be stategic masterminds.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 02, 2014, 11:35:43 PM
If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.

Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Not all captains need to be stategic masterminds.

No but they do need to do a lot more than just lead on the field.
It won't happen.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 03, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
Hope he gets his jump and marking ability back soon
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 03, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
Hope he gets his jump and marking ability back soon
He looked lame on Saturday night.  I hope he was just underdone. :pray
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 03, 2014, 07:40:12 PM
First game back at this level.
Having missed the first 9 I don't expect much from him until we win our meaningless ones from about round 17-23.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 03, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Will be better for a run under the belt, reports from track watchers are he s been training the house down  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 03, 2014, 08:00:48 PM
So have so many others apparently BJ.
On game day however they burn the house down. :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 23, 2014, 11:25:47 AM
Not much commentary on Big Ivvy but I thought he looked better against the Swans. Hopefully starting to turn things around.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on June 23, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Agreed, seems to be moving more freely now.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on June 23, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
He is already moving 5 times faster than Hampson and his positional play is getting back to its best.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 23, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.

His marking around the ground has returned.  Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tiga on June 23, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.

His marking around the ground has returned.  Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.
 
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 23, 2014, 01:54:42 PM
I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.

His marking around the ground has returned.  Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.

Yes please any of the above options or any other option for that matter
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on June 23, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
What annoys me is that Hampson was supposedly a good mark  >:(
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 23, 2014, 06:30:49 PM
Thought Ivan was excellent on Friday night.

Never question the leadership he brings.  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on June 23, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.

His marking around the ground has returned.  Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.

Bring back Strawbs O'Dwyer  :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 23, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
THE BIG PIE VAN !
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on June 23, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
What annoys me is that Hampson was supposedly a good mark  >:(

Hampson has never been a good mark, he was affectionately referred to as Cymbal Hands by Carlton supporters.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 23, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
With Maric and miles in the side , it's no co incidence out contested ball win has gone off the scale  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 23, 2014, 09:06:11 PM
With Maric and miles in the side , it's no co incidence out contested ball win has gone off the scale  :shh

Supercallafragellasticexpealadoshious

The rest still play like Mary Poppins.
Would help if Dumma put his best five clearance specialists in there instead of blokes like Titch & Pettard.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on June 23, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
having titch in the middle is akin to having percy panda in there.....useless
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on June 23, 2014, 10:55:13 PM
Watching Ivan improve his movement so rapidly just frustrates me even more that this decision wasn't made LAST preseason, let alone feb this preseason.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 24, 2014, 01:58:45 PM

Supercallafragellasticexpealadoshious

The rest still play like Mary Poppins.


 :lol :lol :lol   :bow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2014, 03:59:14 PM
Danny Daly talking about Maric:

* It’s obviously no secret that we missed Ivvy while he was out. He’s just starting to find some form and fitness, so hopefully he can continue that this week. His ability to get around the ground, lose his opponent ruckman and take marks is crucial for us. Also, he can go forward when Ty comes into the ruck. We’ve got great faith in his ability to take marks, especially the long, down-the-line ones. We speak about contested football through the midfield and this is where it’s at.  The ability to mark the footy means that the ball’s not hitting the deck. He runs about 13km a game so it’s not only his ability to get around the ground and take marks. Defensively, he works just as hard as most of our midfielders.

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-26/spotlight-on-round-15
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 27, 2014, 04:07:47 PM
Defensively he works harder than these midfielders. Ellis, Titch, Grigg, :help
These Forwards, Vickery, Edwards, Riewoldt, :help
Hampspud and add Chaplin, Houli, Newman. :help

We only ski downhill no wonder other sides get run ons against us. :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 27, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
Danny Daly talking about Maric:

* It’s obviously no secret that we missed Ivvy while he was out. He’s just starting to find some form and fitness, so hopefully he can continue that this week. His ability to get around the ground, lose his opponent ruckman and take marks is crucial for us. Also, he can go forward when Ty comes into the ruck. We’ve got great faith in his ability to take marks, especially the long, down-the-line ones. We speak about contested football through the midfield and this is where it’s at.  The ability to mark the footy means that the ball’s not hitting the deck. He runs about 13km a game so it’s not only his ability to get around the ground and take marks. Defensively, he works just as hard as most of our midfielders.

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-26/spotlight-on-round-15

Any chance we could work on a GOOD replacement then rather than the spuds like Hampson, Big O, Xman, Vickers, Griffiths and Unco's we have been trotting out
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Machine on June 28, 2014, 05:34:04 PM
Got thrashed today by Longer. Worst game he has played for the tigers.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
Ivan Maric's standing in Richmond's side cannot be underestimated.

Maric's absence for the first 10 rounds of the season as he recovered from ankle surgery left a gaping hole in Richmond's lineup.

Now with six games under his belt, Maric is starting to come into his own.

His battle with Lions ruckman Stefan Martin was intriguing and Maric said he relished the challenge.

"I love getting into that zone where I'm absolutely hurting and my mind wants me to stop and I just keep going.

"I believe that if can play in that zone for longer than my opponent I can eventually wear him down, but it was a good duel with Stef today."

The mentality of doing "the little things" had deserted the Tigers in the early stages of this season, Maric said.

But the Tigers ruckman saw signs in the win over the Lions that made him think things were starting to turn.

"I believe it happens at training. You have to do it at training. You've got to train your mind because there's times in the game where you're going to hurt," he said.

"Your legs are burning and you've got to say, 'Shut up legs' and just keep running, find and then stop your opponent."

Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-06/tys-the-guy)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on July 06, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Moving like Damien Monkhurst.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
Rd19 upcoming milestones:

50 RFC club games – Ivan Maric.

https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on July 28, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Must get 100 games into this fella
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2014, 03:13:57 AM
What did we all think of Big Ivan's RFC 50th?

The official stats rated his battle with Mumford all square.

Player                 K    H    D    CP    UP    DE% CLG   M   CM M50  HO  CLR  CC  ST R50  FF  FA   T   1%  Bo I50   G   B   GA   G% TG%  AF
Ivan Maric           8     3    11      9    2    90.9    0    3    1    0    26    3    1    2    0    3    0    1    4    0    0    0    0    0    0    86    72
Shane Mumford    3    12    15    10    4    93.3    3    3    1    0    22    4    1    3    0    1    3    4    1    0    1    0    0    0    0    84    72

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2014/19/rich-v-gws

Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: Muscles on August 03, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
Would be my choice as captain of the team.
Title: Magical Maric: The power behind Richmond's resurgence (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2014, 01:10:40 PM
Magical Maric: The power behind Richmond's resurgence
Travis King 
afl.com.au
August 3, 2014 10:00 AM


TALISMANIC ruckman Ivan Maric has been the driving force behind Richmond's resurgence, teammate Ricky Petterd says.
 
Maric returned from pre-season ankle surgery when Richmond started sinking to its lowest ebb in an embarrassing 50-point loss to Essendon in the 'Dreamtime at the 'G' encounter in round 11.
 
The Tigers tumbled to four-straight losses and a 3-10 record, but prospects have improved dramatically at Punt Rd since.
 
So much so that Richmond is suddenly an outside finals chance after winning five-straight matches.
 
While Maric's comeback has been important on gameday, he's also demanded more from his teammates on the training track.
 
"I think big 'Ivey' runs it pretty well. He expects us to be the best and that's what we strive to be," Petterd told AFL.com.au.
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-03/maric-the-miracle-worker
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 03, 2014, 01:59:19 PM
Would be my choice as captain of the team.

x 2

Just a natural leader, show it on and off the field  :clapping

And it doesn't effect his game either, just keeps doing what he always done
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on August 03, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
I am just incredulous at these articles.

How many people have to come out and say the standards weren't high enough before the penny drops.

The stuffing ruckman doesn't drive standards, the coaching staff do.



Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 03, 2014, 02:38:17 PM
I am just incredulous at these articles.

How many people have to come out and say the standards weren't high enough before the penny drops.

The stuffing ruckman doesn't drive standards, the coaching staff do.
Hard to argue with that.....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric - 50 RFC games this week [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on August 03, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
yep  cant argue with that
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2014, 04:04:50 AM
Ivan's best game since his terrific 2012 season. His presenting, marking and influence around the ground was massive last night.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on August 09, 2014, 05:00:03 AM
Ivan the Lion heart always gives 120 % .If Hampson had half of that :banghead.This guy is so important to our side and it showed when he missed the start of the year.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2014, 09:17:44 AM
Leigh Matthews said he is our spiritual leader

Ain't that the truth

Easily our most important/influential player
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 09, 2014, 09:52:47 AM
Leigh Matthews said he is our spiritual leader

Ain't that the truth

Easily our most important/influential player

Barney pretty much summed it up perfectly about Ivan. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on August 09, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Great second half, looked to be lacking confidence in his body or had a niggle in the first half. Anyone else notice
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 09, 2014, 10:40:07 AM
Best game since pre groin troubles. Fully fit this guy is a dominant ruckman.

TM - I don't think it was a niggle - Ryder was just jumping all over him 1st qtr and Ivan wore him down as the game went on
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on August 09, 2014, 12:14:30 PM
Lot of heart from this guy last night.

Thought his goal after the siren was really fitting.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 09, 2014, 02:01:30 PM
Just didn't stop going  :clapping. Probably helped that Griff looked to spend a lot of time in the ruck compared to Vickery. Can never question his endeavor
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Robbo talking about Maric in his 'likes' column:

2. Ivan Maric.
Knew ‘’Evaaaan’’ was important, but didn’t know he had quietly slipped to the top of the class in terms of morale and inspiration. Plenty to like about the Tigers on Friday night — their pressure was extreme after half-time — and it was Ivan who monstered them over the line. He was super against Patrick Ryder in the final quarter and it was fitting he kicked the goal after the siren to be mobbed by teammates. Clubs talk about process, strategy and tactics when a lot of the time it comes down to spirit.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/the-tackle-herald-sun-chief-football-writer-mark-robinson-nominates-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-20/story-fnect155-1227020074626
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 15, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Damien Barrett's latest Sliding Doors article .....


IF ....... we are to admit guilt on seriously underestimating the worth of one player to his team in 2014.

THEN .... it is because we just didn't realise how much ticker big Ivan has. Just love how he talked it up and then delivered. And stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-15/sliding-doors-round-21
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on August 15, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Ol Big Lungs  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
Thanks Bin Boy Barrett for stating the bleeding obvious  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 15, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
The stuffing stuff stuff
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 15, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
How IS the lagging dog.

Says "We" not I.

*see James Hird.
Title: Tigers walk taller alongside Ivan Maric, a spiritual leader (Fairfax)
Post by: one-eyed on August 15, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
Tigers walk taller alongside Ivan Maric, a spiritual leader
By Peter Hanlon
Newcastle Herald (Fairfax media)
Aug. 15, 2014, 4 p.m.



That Ivan Maric makes Richmond better is an understanding that reaches beyond football, draping a sense of how things should be done over this famous club like, well, a mullet spilling over broad shoulders. "I really admire him," says captain Trent Cotchin, who is proud to call Maric one of his closest friends at Tigerland.
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"I think the simplest way to put it with Ivvy is the way he lives and breathes in his personal life - with regard to the care he shows everyone, his morals as a person - that's pretty well reflected in the way he plays his footy and what he expects of others."

The ruckman's comments three weeks ago that Richmond's 3-10 start to the season had stemmed from poor standards on the training track and around the club were jarring, but nothing everyone at Punt Road hadn't already heard him say. One long-time football department staffer reckons speaking up would have been in "no-brainer" territory for Maric. "He's the one, if things aren't going right, he'll get up and say so at a team meeting."

Assistant coach Brendon Lade - who for Port Adelaide rucked against Maric in the 28-year-old's debut for Adelaide in 2006 - echoes Cotchin's observation that everything he says and does is geared towards the betterment of individual and team.

"Being around he and his wife (Erin) a lot, seeing him at home, he's stubborn as all men can be," Lade says. "At the club, whatever it takes to be the best he can be, he'll do it. If that means telling a coach, another player, an admin staffer that they're not doing their job properly, he'll do it.

"That's the challenge for the rest of our group - to make sure they keep doing that as well. He's setting a very good example, and we need to make sure as a group that we keep following it."

Analysis of where a season of great promise went so wrong pretty much starts with Maric's February surgery to remove spurs from his ankle. By the time he returned in round 11, finals talk had been usurped by crisis talk; fully up and going, he has been at the heart of a belated charge that faces its biggest do-or-die moment against the Crows on Saturday night.

Maric spent seven seasons toiling for 77 games in Adelaide, arriving in the 2004 draft with Jonathon Griffin and John Meesen, joining Matthew Clarke, Rhett Biglands and Ben Hudson. If the air really is thinner up there for ruckmen, there were so many competing for oxygen in his rookie years it's a wonder someone didn't pass out.

Hudson and Maric share a manager, and when his move to the Bulldogs cleared the Crows' big-man traffic jam, Hudson joked that Maric should pay him 10 per cent of all future earnings. "For whatever reason he wasn't given a go at being the number one in Adelaide, but he's thrived on the responsibility since," Hudson says. "He's just grown."

Cotchin recalls watching a highlights package before Maric's 100th game last season, and struggling with the image of his mate in a Crows jumper (the bowl haircut Lade remembers him sporting probably didn't help). "It almost didn't seem like him, just didn't seem right," Cotchin says.
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He concedes that the distinctive, high-kneed gait has always been there, adding to the imposing figure he becomes when wound up. But he can picture Maric only in yellow and black.

His talismanic quality appeals to Tony Jewell, the Tigers' last premiership coach, who believes one thing about the game that hasn't changed is the value of filling your team with as many genuinely tough blokes as can stretch a jumper over their torsos. Jewell loved playing alongside and later coaching Francis Bourke - "he was like a security blanket, you just drew strength off him" - and sees the same qualities in Maric.

"He looks like the spiritual leader," Jewell says, adding that he sees a bit of former Hawk Don Scott in him, too. "When he's up and running and getting excited, pushing forward, he's dragging the whole side along with him.

"There's not too many ruckmen in the AFL at the moment who you'd say are as influential in an aggressive way as he is. Having these big, steely, strong blokes around you as you're about to run down the race on to the ground, I just reckon people draw on them."

Cotchin is happy to share the leadership load, and says he bounces ideas off Maric all the time. Cotchin thinks people who jump to conclusions miss Maric's depth; Maric speaks slowly, deliberately and in disarmingly soothing tones, and some confuse length of the message's delivery with uncertainty over what to say.

"He just really takes his time to say what he wants to say," Cotchin says. "It has a really positive impact now, the way he speaks. He has so much respect within our footy club, and in more recent times in the whole AFL competition."

He shares the Jewell ethos, walking taller at centre bounces, "knowing the bloke to your right hand side is really going to give you his best". It makes Maric a treasured teammate. "That's why we love him."

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2490531/tigers-walk-taller-alongside-ivan-maric-a-spiritual-leader/?cs=12
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 15, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
Huge contest this week against probably the inform ruckman of the comp Jacobs
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 15, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
king hit
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 16, 2014, 12:21:07 AM
Jacobs mentally tougher than the pansy Ryder, reckon Ivan's in for a bath. Not that he won't try his heart out though
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 16, 2014, 04:54:01 AM
I enjoyed reading that  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: dwaino on August 17, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Big Lungs  :cheers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 06, 2015, 10:17:06 PM
Richmond AFL ruckman Ivan Maric kicking early goals as St Albans Soccer Club president

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/richmond-afl-ruckman-ivan-maric-kicking-early-goals-as-st-albans-soccer-club-president/story-fngnvog3-1227251366343
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 16, 2015, 11:45:15 PM
Ruckman Ivan Maric, who has benefited from a reduced training load this pre-season, dominated the hit-outs early before he was substituted out at three-quarter time.

After missing the 29-year-old for the first 10 rounds last year because of an ankle injury, the Tigers are excited about launching the season with Maric driving their midfield.

Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-16/cotchin-still-on-track)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: JVT on May 18, 2015, 02:25:29 PM
Fantastic game yesterday, his attack on the opposition and ball a highlight for me.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 18, 2015, 02:47:58 PM
Yeah good game - can be a bit of a slow & clumsy liabilty in general play at times but the fact that he isn't a lot more often is testament his never say die attitude.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 18, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
Still taps the ball too the opposition alot  :thumbsdown Needs to be more aware of where he is rucking too.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 18, 2015, 06:46:51 PM
How quickly people forget Gus, Patto and the last two years of the Snake Handler....

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 18, 2015, 09:21:27 PM
Throw in the Xman and the Knob
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 20, 2015, 02:53:04 AM
Big Ivan was interviewed on 3aw ...

AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-19/maric-on-3aw-19th-may
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 24, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
Shame he didn't nail those goals but did well
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Machine on May 24, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
Played a great game tonight. big marks down back a highlight.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 24, 2015, 10:50:13 PM
When we were under the pump in the 3rd took 2 or 3 big strong contested marks  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 24, 2015, 11:27:19 PM
B.O.G.  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mat073 on May 25, 2015, 12:55:35 AM
Was a star today ....getting back to 2012 form
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 27, 2015, 09:06:03 PM
Maric is the in-form ruckman of the competition according to Supercoach:

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Meanwhile, other rucks are going the other way, headed by Tiger Ivan Maric who has scored at least 120 in four of his past five games.

RUCKS — 3-ROUND AVERAGE

129 Ivan Maric ($559,200)

120 Stefan Martin ($586,200)

114 Shane Mumford ($552,800)

112 Mark Blicavs ($509,100)

109 Sam Jacobs ($550,300)

104 Aaron Sandilands ($473,600)

95 Tom Nicholls ($416,300)

92 Matthew Lobbe ($451,800

91 Jake Spencer ($344,300)

87 Zac Clarke ($429,100)

85 Nic Naitanui ($428,300)

81 Todd Goldstein ($527,800)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-market-watch-rucks-on-the-rise-but-what-happened-to-todd-goldstein-in-round-8/story-fni5f3gz-1227370930372
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 27, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
Geez and most on here had him sent to the knackers
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 27, 2015, 10:34:26 PM
Geez and most on here had him sent to the knackers

bring back Gus  :shh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on May 28, 2015, 02:32:38 AM
Loving the big man's effort and form this year, but that list is a bit silly.

Would rather have any of Mumford, Jacobs, Lobbe, NicNat or Goldstein for pure rucking ability.

Would even be very interested in Martin and Blicavs for their around-ground ability.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 28, 2015, 08:56:30 AM
Lobbe?

Maric bathed him on he weekend
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on May 28, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
He didn't really give him a bath at all. Maric's effort was enormous because of the ruck load he had to take with Griff went down.

Lobbe ended up with 29 hit outs and 10 tackles. Hardly a poor effort.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on May 28, 2015, 12:51:16 PM
Agree to disagree.

Wouldn't be holding up Lobbe as any sort of shining ruck example.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 28, 2015, 03:44:25 PM
Stuff the stats Lobbe was poo
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on May 29, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
Main point is that Maric is enjoying a purple patch. I like the bloke.

Just don't see him as one of the premier ruckman in the AFL.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 29, 2015, 06:51:19 AM
Credit where credit is due, whoever decided to recruit Maric,  :clapping, BTW how is Soldo going?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2015, 04:34:47 AM
Credit where credit is due, whoever decided to recruit Maric,  :clapping, BTW how is Soldo going?
Soldo is playing in the TAC Cup this year for the Northern Knights.

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=198475532&client=1-118-58943-339768-20320231&ocompID=339768 (http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=198475532&client=1-118-58943-339768-20320231&ocompID=339768)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2015, 04:42:03 AM
Ivan had 7 clearances and 3 centre clearances from his own ruckwork last night.

15 disposals (10 contested, 80% efficiency)
2 marks
7 clearances (centre 3, stoppage 4)
23 hitouts
3 tackles
2 rebound 50s
1 inside 50



And he cleans up the changerooms after the game. Big Ivan can do everything  ;D.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 31, 2015, 10:50:58 AM
Ivan had 7 clearances and 3 centre clearances from his own ruckwork last night.

15 disposals (10 contested, 80% efficiency)
2 marks
7 clearances (centre 3, stoppage 4)
23 hitouts
3 tackles
2 rebound 50s
1 inside 50



And he cleans up the changerooms after the game. Big Ivan can do everything  ;D.

 :snidegrin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 31, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??

A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Zlatan on May 31, 2015, 11:52:08 AM
Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??

A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer

need to throw the kitchen sink at kreuzer
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 31, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Zlatan on May 31, 2015, 01:21:53 PM
Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential

id take the risk

we need a highly rated young ruckman

hampson gives me nightmares
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on May 31, 2015, 01:23:02 PM
Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??

A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer

Just on that, what is Soldo doing? Has he been playing anywhere?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 31, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??

A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer

need to throw the kitchen sink at kreuzer

Doesn't he have enough injuries without throwing a sink at him.. :whistle
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 31, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
If we got Kruezer and he stayed fit it'd be great but I fear he would just be a more expensive replacment for Knights in our rehab group and not sure we can afford that. Be interesting to see if & when he comes back this year whether he can stay on the park and also how he plays.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on May 31, 2015, 04:44:56 PM
What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.

He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.


There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Zlatan on May 31, 2015, 05:30:06 PM
What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.

He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.


There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.

the obsession is outside maric we only have:

Soldo, Ivan (R)   
Hampson, Shaun   
Griffiths, Benjamin   
Vickery, Tyrone
   

Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.

Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.

ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 31, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
pretty sure andy was questioning the who, not the why?



/
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Zlatan on May 31, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
pretty sure andy was questioning the who, not the why?



/


there are not many young, talented ruck man that are available
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 31, 2015, 06:49:57 PM
We really should have targeted Longer over Hampson

Younger, developing can take a grab  ;D

Would have been a much better option long term IMHO

We need to try and find one like that a this year's trade period
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 31, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
Would love to target Sinclair from the eagles.  A lot of upside there and a Victorian boy as well.  One of my colleagues knew the family.  All the boys could play a bit but young Callum was far and away the best of them.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on May 31, 2015, 08:42:07 PM
Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential

id take the risk

we need a highly rated young ruckman

hampson gives me nightmares

Don't think he's highly rated nor young anymore
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 31, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential

id take the risk

we need a highly rated young ruckman

hampson gives me nightmares

Don't think he's highly rated nor young anymore
He is heading into his best years as a ruckman though and he won't cost us anywhere near as much as Kreuzer.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on May 31, 2015, 08:59:11 PM
Kreuzer won't cost as much as Kruezer?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 31, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Kreuzer won't cost as much as Kruezer?
Sorry. I thought they were referring to my suggestion of Callum Sinclair. :rollin
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 31, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
Tom Nicholls.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on May 31, 2015, 11:46:27 PM
What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.

He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.


There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.

the obsession is outside maric we only have:

Soldo, Ivan (R)   
Hampson, Shaun   
Griffiths, Benjamin   
Vickery, Tyrone
   

Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.

Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.

ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.


Yes we need another ruckman. I feel I've been quite vocal about this for the last 18 months at least.

Doesn't mean I'm going to put a washed up, broken down, ex-no.1 draft pick like Kreuzer (who was at his best just a solid ruckman) up on a pedestal for us to aim the sink at. He's not even 'young' anymore - he's 26 and has played 100-odd games. Certainly not a basket I wanna put all my eggs in.

Soldo, who knows...
Hampson is a great tap ruckman, but nothing else...
Vickery hasn't been developed as a ruckman, which is a shame...
Griffiths is a pinch-hitter only...
McBean isn't a ruckman...


So we either need to get another cheap interim ruckman who can stay on the park, or a premier ruckman who can help us win a flag, and definitely a young bloke to shape up. Kreuzer is neither of these things. Cheap ruckman would have included Jonathan Giles, Stefan Martin etc. Young ruckman would have been Longer (who suggested that??? haha).

Throwing the sink at Kreuzer is sillier than suggesting Taylor Hunt is a better player than Grigg this year...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Zlatan on June 01, 2015, 10:01:58 AM
What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.

He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.


There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.

the obsession is outside maric we only have:

Soldo, Ivan (R)   
Hampson, Shaun   
Griffiths, Benjamin   
Vickery, Tyrone
   

Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.

Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.

ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.


Yes we need another ruckman. I feel I've been quite vocal about this for the last 18 months at least.

Doesn't mean I'm going to put a washed up, broken down, ex-no.1 draft pick like Kreuzer (who was at his best just a solid ruckman) up on a pedestal for us to aim the sink at. He's not even 'young' anymore - he's 26 and has played 100-odd games. Certainly not a basket I wanna put all my eggs in.

Soldo, who knows...
Hampson is a great tap ruckman, but nothing else...
Vickery hasn't been developed as a ruckman, which is a shame...
Griffiths is a pinch-hitter only...
McBean isn't a ruckman...


So we either need to get another cheap interim ruckman who can stay on the park, or a premier ruckman who can help us win a flag, and definitely a young bloke to shape up. Kreuzer is neither of these things. Cheap ruckman would have included Jonathan Giles, Stefan Martin etc. Young ruckman would have been Longer (who suggested that??? haha).

Throwing the sink at Kreuzer is sillier than suggesting Taylor Hunt is a better player than Grigg this year...

S Martin wont be cheap

Giles is rubbish


the pool is shallow
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: wayne on June 01, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
Leueueunberger is the one
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2015, 02:08:30 PM
Leueueu

oh no
Sayin' we gotta go, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on June 02, 2015, 02:01:41 AM
'Berger is either injured or out of form
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2015, 04:07:31 AM
Here's the vision of Ivan post-game cleaning up the Richmond room ...

VIDEO: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/watch-footage-of-richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-cleaning-rubbish-in-changerooms/story-fni5f9jb-1227378593048


THE vision of Ivan Maric walking around the changerooms putting rubbish in a bin on Saturday night caught many by surprise.

But if you look closely you’ll notice that none of his teammates or the Richmond staff are batting an eyelid.

The reason? They’re used to it. Maric is a clean freak and his obsession with having everything in order is well known at Punt Rd.

On match days it’s the tape used for strapping and empty cups that drive the ruckman mad.

If the staff kitchen is left in a state that is not up to his standard during the week, Maric is not afraid to hunt down those responsible.

In fact, he has been known to send out an email to all staff members informing them about any breakdown in his cleanliness policy.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on June 02, 2015, 05:58:52 AM
There I was hoping it was out of respect for the game and an understanding that the game is bigger than any individual or team, and to teach players to be humble he cleans the rooms as a reminder that it's a privilege to play AFL.

Oh well.
Title: The world according to Ivan (AFL video)
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2015, 02:44:58 PM
The World according to Ivan ...

VIDEO:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-06-24/the-world-according-to-ivan
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-24/the-world-according-to-ivan
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2015, 03:27:12 PM
Ivan on the AFL website ...

Maric said his focus this year has been improving his second and third efforts, and his average contested possessions (9.0) and clearances (4.64) have lifted to career highs as a result.

He said his past two weeks have been tough, but his form overall has been helped by the Tigers' expanded tall forward line, which now includes Ty Vickery and Ben Griffiths as regular fixtures.

"The ruck support improved and it's a lot better, rather than leaving it to one person to do all the ruck work," he said.

"You can't be doing that for a whole season. You really need to share the load.

"It's helped with my impact on the game definitely because you can go hard, recover, and then come back into it.

"I'm the same as our midfielders, we just want to scrap and fight and just compete, compete week after week. I feel like I've done that pretty good so far."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-26/hot-sauce-deserves-more-credit-in-no1-ruck-debate-maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2015, 04:43:15 AM
President of St Albans SC, Ivan casually slotting it into the bottom corner  :lol.

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-26/round-13-ivans-soccer-sealer
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 27, 2015, 06:51:12 AM
President of St Albans SC, Ivan casually slotting it into the bottom corner  :lol.

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-26/round-13-ivans-soccer-sealer

We all laughed and clapped at that last night, brilliant  :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 05, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
It's ok to struggle against NNat and sandi

But he is looking shot vs nobodies ....


Got woke up by a Molotov cocktail last night , too
Title: Ivan Maric woken up by Molotov cocktails thrown at neighbour's house (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on July 05, 2015, 09:30:48 PM
Got woke up by a Molotov cocktail last night , too
MOLOTOV cocktails have been thrown at a family home in a street made notable for its one-time gangland connection and a nearby resident football star.

Nine firebombs were thrown at a house in Primrose St, Essendon, just after 6am, waking several residents including Richmond footballer Ivan Maric.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/explosives-thrown-in-attack-on-family-home-in-essendon/story-fni0fee2-1227429539869
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tiger Tragic on July 05, 2015, 10:23:57 PM
I'm sure Ivan is very happy everyone now knows where he lives.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Winding down...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 19, 2015, 08:36:15 PM
may not of clunked too many marks up forward, but he ensured their backs didnt either. he bought the ball to ground at nearly every contest, often outnumbered.

not his fault we go beaten at ground level.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
Surely can't play maric AND Angus hampson vs. Proper teams
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 19, 2015, 08:48:15 PM
well, im still not convinced hampson is not potato,
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
They both suck but freo + hawks will blitzkrieg us if we play both  :help
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Penelope on July 19, 2015, 08:52:12 PM
based on todays game, the real damage will come at ground level.

we got smashed at clearances and at the fall of the ball for large portion of the game.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Heart of Darkness on July 19, 2015, 09:43:54 PM
I think Ivy might be done :-\ Still competes hard but looks very very slow out there. Can't play primarily as a forward as well.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 09:46:40 PM
I think Ivy might be done :-\ Still competes hard but looks very very slow out there. Can't play primarily as a forward as well.

Maric and Chaplin on the ground at the same time is a worry
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Willy on July 20, 2015, 02:45:03 PM
Moving like a glacier at the moment.
Sure he brought a couple of balls to ground but some of them should have been marks.
I'd play Hampson on form.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: mat073 on August 01, 2015, 11:06:30 AM
Apologies to Ivan - I thought he was done.

He has been epic the last  couple of weeks. Maybe the week off was a blessing in disguise . Maybe the threat of losing his spot to big Hammer has motivated him
What ever it is - big Ivan has been terrific .
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on August 01, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
Looked a lot less slow

Praise Allah
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 01, 2015, 12:15:18 PM
Playing good footy. Reckon Hampson gave him a scare ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Ruck and roll with Ivan Maric
richmondfc.com.au 
August 19, 2015 3:27 PM


Inspirational Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric provided an interesting insight into what makes him tick on this week’s episode of the Club’s official podcast, ‘Talking Tigers’. Here are Maric’s well-considered opinions on a variety of football-related matters . . .

On his form this season

“There was a month there where it was really hard against some very good ruckmen, with (Aaron) Sandilands and (Nic) Natanui . . . (Shaun) Hampson coming in to give us a bit of a hand was really good.  I’ve focused on trying to impact up forward, so that’s been good the last month or so (five goals in his past five games). I’m just trying to be really consistent.”

Read more from the interview here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-08-19/ruck-and-roll-with-ivan-maric
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 29, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.

Terrible game by the acting captain.

Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Muscles on August 29, 2015, 09:58:13 PM
Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.

Terrible game by the acting captain.

Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game

We can't play Maric against Goldstein.  That's just asking to be slaughtered.  The Hampster should be the choice against Nought.  It might even freshen Ivan up for the next week.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Machine on August 30, 2015, 09:03:59 AM
Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.

Terrible game by the acting captain.

Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game

We can't play Maric against Goldstein.  That's just asking to be slaughtered.  The Hampster should be the choice against Nought.  It might even freshen Ivan up for the next week.

Hampster? massive pass from me. He should never pull on our jumper again! Has done nothing the last few weeks at VFL level and has the worst attitude towards his fellow players :banghead
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: eliminator on August 30, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Hampson would be a liability if brought in against North.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 05, 2016, 12:01:45 AM
Big Ivan has hit the big 3 0  :birthday.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on January 10, 2016, 11:19:46 AM
belated

and welcome to over the hill...?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Smokey on January 10, 2016, 01:40:49 PM
If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on January 10, 2016, 09:49:42 PM
If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!

Played a bit of AFL in your time did ya?

hehehe
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on January 13, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!

Are you an b-a grade afl ruckman?
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 28, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
I know it was a practice game but I thought he was terrible in his first hit out yesterday.  I hope he improves for round 1, we need a competitive ruckman and i don't want to see Hamspud running around in yellow and black either.
As a leader I think Maric has a lot to prove this season considering the poor performances in finals thus far especially last years effort against north was bloody disgraceful.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Heart of Darkness on February 28, 2016, 05:40:56 PM
I'm not sure Ivy can jump any more. Will give it his all but will continue to struggle against the more athletic types.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1980 I Was There on February 28, 2016, 05:55:27 PM
If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
The big fellas got another 4 -5 years in him yet  :thumbsup and he still has room for improvement as well.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on February 28, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
Don't be absurd.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on February 29, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
I'm not sure Ivy can jump any more. Will give it his all but will continue to struggle against the more athletic types.

Hasn't been able to jump since probably 2013.

Shaun Hampson actually leaps and contends the ruck a lot better but unfortunately offers less around the ground.

Between them they're one decent ruckman, and generally a liability in our aspirations for a flag IMO.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 29, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
If they were playing high jump and not football Hampson may be a viable option

But alas
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on February 29, 2016, 11:40:13 AM
If they were playing high jump and not football Hampson may be a viable option

But alas

Exactly, and if we were playing rugby and all Maric had to do was run into people it would be great.

Shame our club really hasn't chased down a better ruck option over the last two years. Maric will probably have one solid season left in him and Hampson apparently has a dicky knee that won't get better.

With options like Zac Smith going to Geelong so cheaply we really should have taken a shot at a young one...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on February 29, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
Z smith
Lburger
Kreuzer

wtf Richmond
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2016, 07:29:55 PM
Forgotten Tiger Ivan Maric back to face Power

AFL.com.au
30 June 2016


RUCKMAN Ivan Maric is back in Richmond's team for the first time since round six after Shaun Hampson was not able to recover in time from a knee injury.

Hampson hurt his right knee in the dying minutes of last Saturday's win against the Brisbane Lions and was also affected by the flu during the week.

Tigers coach Damien Hardwick is confident Maric could perform in Friday night's clash against Port Adelaide – in what will be only his third AFL game for the season.

"Shaun won't play this week. It's obviously been a short week for us," Hardwick said at the airport on Thursday.

"(Maric has) been in good form at VFL level, so it's great to have the big fella back."

“Both are going to be valuable contributors for us going forward.”

The Power have been using defender Jackson Trengove as their primary big man after Matthew Lobbe and Dougal Howard succumbed to knee injuries. Former Bomber Paddy Ryder is serving a season-long suspension for doping.

Hardwick said there was a combination of reasons for vice-captain's absence from the senior team.

"In fairness, he was injured through the pre-season and Shaun just grabbed that spot. Possession's nine-tenths of the law," Hardwick said.

"Shaun actually performed pretty well and Ivan was probably a little slow to get up and going."

Maric, 30, hasn't played at any level for more than two weeks, in a match against Werribee on July 12. The Tigers had the VFL bye a fortnight ago while Maric sat out last week as a precaution after Hampson was injured in the AFL.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-30/forgotten-tiger-ivan-maric-back-to-face-power
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 01, 2016, 10:29:57 PM
(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: The Machine on July 01, 2016, 10:32:21 PM
(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)

 :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 01, 2016, 11:18:37 PM
(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)
He'll probably  have his contract extended by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on July 01, 2016, 11:23:44 PM
Unfair to play him. Just embarrassing the poor bloke now and destroying his legacy. Let him see out his days peacefully in the VFL then maybe give him a farewell in Round 23 - preferably as a stay at home FF.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 02, 2016, 03:49:09 AM
his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys  body over the years.

Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on July 02, 2016, 07:26:06 AM
Reality and fact are
That the poor bloke should of been tapped on the shoulder at the end of last year
As should of Chaplin
Clubs fault
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 02, 2016, 08:40:35 AM
his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys  body over the years.

^^
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on July 02, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys  body over the years.

^^

Get your answer on how Hampson being out made a difference?????
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 02, 2016, 09:12:48 AM
Unfair to play him. Just embarrassing the poor bloke now and destroying his legacy. Let him see out his days peacefully in the VFL then maybe give him a farewell in Round 23 - preferably as a stay at home FF.

Agreed. Felt for him last night. Looked like a triple bagel at 3 qtr time.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on July 02, 2016, 11:45:07 AM
Sadly Ivan has suffered a career ending injury several seasons back & can't overcome it.
His body has had enough & its not as if he has not trained hard to try get back. His just done unless a miracle happens
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 09, 2016, 05:17:39 AM
Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake

Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
July 9, 2016


THREE-TIME premiership Hawk Brian Lake says Ivan Maric’s AFL career is seemingly over, with the ruckman unlikely to be on Richmond’s list next season.

Maric was dropped from the Tigers’ line-up to take on the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night, following a two-disposal effort against Port Adelaide in Round 15.

After featuring in 22 of a possible 23 games in 2015, the 30-year-old has played just three games so far this season, with the Tigers opting for Shaun Hampson to be the No. 1 ruckman and Ben Griffiths as the back-up.

In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.

Lake said Maric, who’s out of contract at the end of the 2016 AFL season, was unlikely to be on the Tigers’ list in 2017.

“Unfortunately, I think ‘The Mullet’ is gone,” Lake told Fox Sports News’ AFL Tonight.

“The game’s just changed … when you’re a ruckman now you’ve got to do a bit more than just the tap work. You’ve got to contribute around the ground.

“Just look at Jackson Trengove from Port Adelaide, he’s not a designated ruckman but he can provide the centre clearances, around the ground marks and he’s more mobile.”

Ever since crossing over the Punt Road from Adelaide ahead of the 2012 season, Maric has been a faithful and respected servant at Richmond.

He had a career-best season in 2012 and finished third in the club’s best and fairest count. A month later, he was added to the Tigers’ leadership group then appointed vice-captain alongside Brett Deledio at the start of the 2015 season.

But with the Tigers’ 2016 finals hopes in tatters, Lake said Maric was likely going to be part of a Richmond list clean-out come season’s end.

“We see some ruckmen now and it’s just past their time. They can’t move and they can’t jump as well,” Lake said.

“He’s been fantastic for the club, but I think he’s gone.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ivan-maric-unlikely-to-be-at-richmond-in-2017-afl-season-says-brian-lake/news-story/17e0be8848dc8e5b5eca51caaf258bd9
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on July 09, 2016, 10:12:08 AM
Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake


In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.


Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years

Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 09, 2016, 10:14:58 AM
Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake


In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.


Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years

Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity

Its Hammertime because potato
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Stalin on July 09, 2016, 10:28:19 AM
Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake


In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.


Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years

Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity

Shhhhhh
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1965 on July 09, 2016, 10:55:36 AM

What we need is for both Maric and Hammer to be injured so we can make the big girl first ruck and see how he goes.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on September 08, 2016, 08:17:59 PM
https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/773803605216210944
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Damo on September 08, 2016, 08:27:18 PM
Ivan is finished

True tiger at heart and therefore determined to waste a position on the Pies list

He knows he would be a waste at Tigerland and that everyone involved is too incompetent to realise it
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Andyy on September 08, 2016, 10:53:47 PM
Probably one of those player/coach positions.

Otherwise laughable seriously.
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Shammo80 on September 09, 2016, 11:21:28 AM
ivan will be playing for st albans next year in the WRFL DIV 1 very strong rumours from the club
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: naturaldisaster on September 10, 2016, 03:05:13 AM
Pies want him apparently.

I find this a bit strange.  Maric, as much as i love the bloke is well and truely done (I don't like the term "cooked" they aren't a roast chicken lol)  and yet Cloke (another done player) was dropped several times.  Surely, the same thing is just going to happen to Maric?  Why show interest in a finished bloke, when youve publicly show dissatisfication with another finished bloke???
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 24, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
Well done big Ivan

Battled his heart out for the RFC.

Deserved to go out with a GF

 :clapping
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 24, 2017, 07:47:57 PM
Well done big Ivan

Battled his heart out for the RFC.

Deserved to go out with a GF

 :clapping
I thought it was something like "here we go again, he's no better than Graham!"  ;D
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 24, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
Deserved alot better send off than what he got today thanks to some of his team mates

Hes done so much for our club he simply deserved better
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on September 24, 2017, 11:57:13 PM
With all due respect, he shouldn't have played....
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 25, 2017, 12:04:45 PM
Deserved alot better send off than what he got today thanks to some of his team mates

Hes done so much for our club he simply deserved better

Agree but big Ivvy has been past it for a little while now and cannot pass the blame onto this teammates for this one. Didn't contribute either...
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: 1885 on September 25, 2017, 08:09:48 PM
Soldo didn't even play? That's disappointing  :P
Title: Re: Ivan Maric [merged]
Post by: Slipper on September 25, 2017, 11:27:08 PM
I thought it was good that he was acknowledged as a retiring player on Brownlow night.