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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on August 15, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
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From the Hun, another ruck man rumor.......
ADELAIDE ruckman Ivan Maric is looming large in Richmond's hunt for a top-line big man.
Maric, 25, is unsigned for next year and has put off talks on a new deal with the Crows until the end of the season.
It is understood the Tigers have flagged their interest in trying to lure the 200cm ruckman back home to Melbourne.
While he is not a big AFL name, Maric's ruck nous, work ethic and flexibility to play forward or back appeal to the Tigers.
Last season, he played 21 games and ranked seventh of all ruckmen in the competition for hitouts to advantage. He also finished fourth at the Crows for contested marks.
However, Maric fell out of favour this year and was overlooked by former coach Neil Craig in favour of new No.1 ruckman Sam Jacobs, back-up Brad Moran and key forward Kurt Tippett
Maric, taken with pick No.40 in the 2004 national draft, played only three games to Round 18 but has played all three games under caretaker coach Mark Bickley.
Maric kicked two goals and featured in six score involvements in Adelaide's 11-point loss against Geelong on Sunday.
He has not ruled out staying in Adelaide and the identity of the new, permanent coach is likely to be a key factor in his decision.
The Tigers want a ruckman to help lead an onball brigade that includes potential superstars Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.
Head of football Craig Cameron said Richmond wanted to be active in the trade market this year.
The Tigers have also been linked to ruckmen Mitch Clark (Brisbane Lions), Hamish McIntosh (North Melbourne) and Jonathon Griffin and Zac Clarke (Fremantle).
Maric, who made his debut in 2006, would be unlikely to command a high price but would be assured a long-term contract with the Tigers.
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Never really noticed a leap on him. We need a player who can outjump his opponent
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Bit of a lumberer. The Jack Dyer statue moves more quickly on a good day
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We could do worse, I guess.
He's only 1 year younger than Apple.
Wouldnt want to give up much for him. Maybe poach him for nix houli style.
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yebemti pitchku,Ivan!!
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Ivan Maric
No. 20
Height 200cm
Weight 102kg
DOB 04-01-1986
Recruited from: Keilor/Calder U18, pick 40 in the 2004 National Draft.
Debut v Port Adelaide, round six, 2006
Games 77 (6 in 2011)
Goals 28 (3 in 2011)
http://www.afc.com.au/players/playerprofile/ivanmaric/tabid/4506/playerid/13958/category/senior/season/2011/selected/bio/default.aspx
Career stats:
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-adelaide-crows--ivan-maric
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
Surprise surprise his highest hitouts average is against us.
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I hear we are also interested in Dean Cox, Darren Jolly, Shane Mumford and ever other ruckman in the league ::)
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All the other clubs seem to have older type ruckmen to teach and take pressure off the younger ones, we don't and we didnt last year and that is why our ruck stocks have stalled or not developed as well as we would have liked. Grab an experienced ruck and decide who out of Browne and Gus gets chopped and retain the other.
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yebemti pitchku,Ivan!!
hehe :shh
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He sounds like Ben Marsh ???
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I know you are all getting excited about a new Ruckman.
How is Tom Derickx progressing??. It seems he is hitting the right age and if he is any good ???
Maybe if he comes right along with Tyrone Vickery and Angus or Browne will another ruckman just be superfluous to requirements.?
Shouldn't we be looking at another tall solid CHB/CHF/fullback type instead of rushing into another ruckman?
2010 National Draft - Tom Derickx Pick 63
Robert Hicks
DOB: 7/12/87
Height: 201cm
Weight: 100kg
Club: Claremont
What the recruiters say:
Tom is an athletic ruckman who is very creative with his tap work and has excellent mobility around the ground. His second efforts at ground level and his ability to chase and tackle are a real feature and his movement enables him to go forward and be effective as a lead up forward. He is also a good kick both in general play and goal kicking.
Tom is a late developer who was playing in Margaret River until the end of 2008 when he moved to Perth and signed with Claremont. He played in the reserves in 2009 but blossomed this year after a strong pre season and a late growth spurt which saw him grow to over 200cm. Tom had a solid season as a ruck/forward playing all year in the league side and was a strong contributor in their narrow grand final loss.
While Tom is 22 we feel he is very early in his development phase and in a full time environment will blossom with his natural athletic and football traits and we look forward to him growing and improving at the Richmond Football Club.
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as far as ruckman go hopefully we can trade graham and bring in someone like maric or seaby while young browne and derricx develop.
Both ( maric and seaby ) should be pretty cheap and attainable, both would be an upgrade on graham.
No need for hamish thats for sure
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We need a ruckman who can take a contested grab. If Maric fits the bill go for him.
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People being a bit harsh on Maric and really havent watched him.Before this season he was the crows number 1 ruckman and still is 25 so can develope further.Last 3 games under Bickley he has been good fell out with Craig as they got Jacobs.He can hold his own with out a problem
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These are his stats for his 2 best seasons to date
2010 Adelaide 21 3.4 6.9 10.3 3.0 0.2 0 2.0 17.6 1.1 1.0 0.05
2009 Adelaide 20 3.4 6.4 9.8 2.8 0.2 0.2 2.4 17.9 0.8 1.6
Never averaged more than 10.3 possies a game. No deal. Seems very average!
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Maric tipped to join Tigers
Zac Milbank
From: The Advertiser
September 08, 2011
ADELAIDE ruckman Ivan Maric appears destined to join Richmond.
The out-of-contract Victorian - currently in Melbourne mulling over multiple offers with his manager Peter Lenton - is set to be lured by greater opportunity at Tigerland.
While Lenton insists the Crows remain in the running, Maric - now entrenched behind Sam Jacobs in the pecking order at West Lakes - will almost certainly select the chance to be the lead ruckman at Punt Road.
"There has been interest (from other clubs)," Lenton confirmed.
"And there's interest from Adelaide who are keen to retain him and have put an offer to him.
"We just thought it was best to weigh everything up when the footy season was done and to see what he thinks is best for him from an opportunity point of view.
"That's where he would go - to a club which can give him an opportunity - so we'll go through a process and let the club (Adelaide) know exactly where we sit from there," Lenton said.
Maric has already informed his SANFL club Port Magpies he won't be playing finals despite logging enough games to qualify.
The 198cm giant can't afford to get injured in the next month before AFL trade week begins on October 10.
Adelaide operations manager Phil Harper said the club would endeavour to work a deal with the Tigers, to ensure it was compensated for the loss of the 25-year-old.
"We're keen for him to stay but he's weighing up all options before he makes a call - we understand that," Harper said.
"We know we've got a good player and we know we've got a champion person. If we lose him we'll be disappointed but we'll be understanding as well."
"If he wants to go to another club we'd go down that (trade) line."
Lenton - who also didn't rule out the Power being a potential suitor - said Maric was determined to become a regular player after managing just six games in 2011.
"That's what he's found, that it's a little bit more challenging," said Lenton in reference to the introduction of the AFL's substitute rule.
"And obviously the club got in Sam Jacobs this year and he's taken that (number one) mantle and done a really good job.
"Where Ivan sits now within the structure ... he's probably more so insurance to the club. If there's an injury that comes through then they can call upon him."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/maric-tipped-to-join-tigers/story-e6frecj3-1226131770676
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Apparently it's been a done deal for a little while. At least that's what I was told a week or so ago. Now it's out public in the papers it's no longer hush-hush.
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Whats the compensation the crows will get tho?
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Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
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Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
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Whats the compensation the crows will get tho?
As he is uncontracted:
We can either try and do a trade on our terms or we can draft him for nothing him in the PSD like we did with Houli ;D
Comp? They get no compo - we aren't GC or GWS - this is just standard normal trade/draft ;D
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nothing is a done deal until the papers are signed
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He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..
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Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
But have better ruck stocks than us. Jacobs is a good ruck and Tippett pinch hits.
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Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
But have better ruck stocks than us. Jacobs is a good ruck and Tippett pinch hits.
No No No. He plays for a worse team than us. He must be poo. ;D
He's no gun but he's a big upgrade. Comes down to cost at the end of the day. If its a 3rd rounder or later then we win.Give up a 2nd then we lose.
Hoping the rumour we will pick up Tom Nicholls from GC is true as well as it will cover the long term too.
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He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..
That's a good point
Taylor Walker couldn't get a game while Craig was there ... as soon as he goes Bickley brings him straight back in and the kid plays reasonable footy and re-signs with the club
other players got games when perhaps they shouldn't of.... coaches play favourites at all clubs ;D
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He is struggling for a game in a team that finished below us.
There were a lot of problems at the Crows this year under Craig. Wait and see..
That's a good point
Taylor Walker couldn't get a game while Craig was there ... as soon as he goes Bickley brings him straight back in and the kid plays reasonable footy and re-signs with the club
other players got games when perhaps they shouldn't of.... coaches play favourites at all clubs ;D
Points well taken :thumbsup
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He's 200cm according to the crows site. Can he jump well? Can't remember 8)
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Be good to get him for peanuts, I have no doubts in my mind that he will look like Cox when compared to what we have seen with Graham.
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Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say. Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.
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Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say. Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.
But if the a bandaid is actually "elastoplast" as opposed to a no-name bandaid and that's all that's available then you have settle for that bandaid... better than letting the would bleed, weep and get infected ;D
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nah let it scab up and heal natural
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nah let it scab up and heal natural
True but it wont heal if you have dills constantly wanting to pick at the scab :thumbsup
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and eat them like bar snacks?
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Is this our best option ? There seemed to be of plenty of ruckmen listed as possible trades or linked to us in other threads, are we jumping the gun if its true that is a done deal ?
I just dont know enough about this guy to pass comment, just want to make sure we get the best available as to me this is a main key to our future success.
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From the AFL site....
Adelaide is less confident of retaining popular ruckman Ivan Maric, who is tipped to seek greater opportunity at Richmond next year.
Maric, 25, conceded the No.1 ruck spot to ex-Carlton recruit Sam Jacobs this season and was limited to only six appearances with the Crows.
The out-of-contract Victorian's likely departure would be a blow to the Crows, whose ruck stocks have already taken a hit with the retirement of Brad Moran.
There's a short supply of ruckmen in this year's draft talent pool, meaning clubs could look to previously listed players, or the state leagues in search of ready-made big men.
"We've still got Shaun McKernan and [untried ruckman] James Craig, who can play in the ruck, on our list at the moment," Harper said.
"A ruckman wouldn't have been high on our priority list, but if both of those players [Maric and Moran] went it would come up the pecking order."
The Crows, who aren't expected to announce Neil Craig's successor until later this month at the earliest, had planned a quiet trade week, but Harper said the club would become involved if Maric requested a trade to the Tigers.
"If everybody was staying, we probably wouldn't be active but if someone goes we can become involved," he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122979/default.aspx
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Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup
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Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup
Why do you think Hampson will be cheap? The aint gunna let him go lightly....
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and eat them like bar snacks?
I was just enjoying my lunch.
:chuck
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Welcome back, 65'.
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Welcome back, 65'.
Wouldn't that be Her?
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Personally I don't want him. He is merely an upgrade on Gus and does just about as much around the ground. Hardly influential and earth shattering stuff.
If we are looking for something cheap that can have some impact I still think Hampson is the one. :thumbsup
Why do you think Hampson will be cheap? The aint gunna let him go lightly....
They have Warnock and Kruezer. For what it's worth we will get something of better value to us paying for Hampson than paying the same for Maric.
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You can tell by his haircut why Craig Cameron is so keen to get him here :santa
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/ivan-maric.jpg)
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They have Warnock and Kruezer. For what it's worth we will get something of better value to us paying for Hampson than paying the same for Maric.
Surely we wouldn't be paying the same for Maric as what Hampson would cost us.
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Would not want to lose a draft pick Round 3 or higher.
Offer a Nason or Round 4.
If we pay overs for an average player Ill be peeed.
Unless we get rid of Jackson and I couldn't care less if we drafted Adulf Hitler
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Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say. Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.
Didnt you jump up and down and stamp you feet over Houli coming to richmond?
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Good ordinary player as the great Jack Dyer used to say. Maric would be an improvement on what we have but lets be honest hes not a top ruckman and being better than Gus or Browne wouldnt be too hard. This type of recruitment doesnt help clubs move towards winning a flag, all it is is covering a problem with a band aid.
Didnt you jump up and down and stamp you feet over Houli coming to richmond?
Yes I did although he basically came for free. I was also against Grigg coming to Richmond. Richmond needs to recruit higher quality players IMHO. Lets see how it all works out over the next 3 or 4 years hey!
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don't disagree with that Ramps, but when it comes to pinching them from other clubs, it's easier said than done.
Quality players changing clubs really doesn't happen that often, particularly proven ones
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dont forget mumford was as uselss as a idiot full of cold water before the swannies went out of their way to snag him...i havent lost faith yet.. :shh
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You obviously saw SFA of him at Geelong then, BJ.
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lol he was being facetious salad fingers
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well eff me, he was too. BJ is normally a ret ard, so forgive me you alien milk guy.
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Lack of height is his problem IMO
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Lack of height is his problem IMO
But Mopsy Maric is 200cm
1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)
So I don't t hink height is an issue
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Lack of height is his problem IMO
But Mopsy Maric is 200cm
1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)
So I don't t hink height is an issue
Is 200cm tall enough now days for a modern ruckman?
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a couple of threads regarding maric on the crows board on BF make interesting reading.
There doesnt appear to be too many knocks on the bloke at all. He has a real dip and doesnt need to have "go all in" drilled into him resulting in a drunken mumbling of it at midnight.
From report he is a good kick, with one poster claiming he is the best shot for goal from 30-40m at the club
Overall there is a lot of respect for him on the board.
He may not necessarily be a champ, probably a very solid player, but importantly one with the right character.
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Graham is gonna get a shock if he mumbles "go all in" at his next annual check up I reckon
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Lack of height is his problem IMO
But Mopsy Maric is 200cm
1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)
So I don't t hink height is an issue
Is 200cm tall enough now days for a modern ruckman?
Jamar is only 198cm.
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Ok, what is this Maric like, are we picking up a very good player or another average player...
I have the mail, this guy is a DUD, slow, makes poor decisions, cannot kick, Should fit in well at Richmond.
Probably the decision was made buy the same RFC person who
took Fiora over Pavlich, Tambling over Buddy, Made the decision to take McMahon so we didn't get Callum Ward, same bloke also decided to trade Jason Torney and Stew Maxfield.
Seriously, this is a real bad decision.
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If you can reach the Glenfiddich at the bottle-o then you are tall enough to be a servicable Ruckman. If you can successfully run away from the cops with a bottle of stolen Glenfiddich under your arm, then you are a Ruckman which will be highly sought after. ;D
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If you can drink the bottle of Glenfiddich and refrain from slappin lasses and telling em 'ALL IN' Then you really are a champion ruckman, or is it the other way around?
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If you can reach the Glenfiddich at the bottle-o then you are tall enough to be a servicable Ruckman. If you can successfully run away from the cops with a bottle of stolen Glenfiddich under your arm, then you are a Ruckman which will be highly sought after. ;D
The better player will make the better decision and we all know that Dimples is the one they should be reaching for. :lol :rollin :lol
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Maric set to join Richmond
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
9 September 2011 04:18PM EST
RICHMOND is poised to complete luring Ivan Maric away from Adelaide and return to his home state to restart his stalled AFL career.
Maric, 25, has been targeted by the Tigers as a potential late-maturing big man and solve glaring deficiencies around stoppages in joining clearance forces with exciting young on-ballers Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin.
Maric is expected to seek a trade from the Crows after finishing 2011 and his sixth season on the Crows list behind preferred lead ruckman Sam Jacobs.
The Crows also opted for rising key forwards Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan at times for brief stints on the ball in support of Jacobs, ahead of more regular ruck chances for Maric.
Tigers management have identified an imported ruck force along with another powerful defender as priority recruiting targets ahead of next season after finishing 12th with eight wins and a draw.
Maric has played 77 Crows games since his debut early into 2006, but made only six appearances this season.
The 200cm and 102kg former Calder Canons ruckman played three games to launch the season and then only Rounds 19-21 to average 11 possessions and outing around 12 hitouts a game.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick has identified needs for more aggression and brute force in the stoppages to generate passage for the classy Martin and Cotchin to continue an upward surge toward possible finals next season and beyond.
Maric is considered by Tigers recruiters as an emerging ruckman who could reach his peak of potential in the next few seasons, similar to the late confirmation of capabilities that escalated Melbourne big man Mark Jamar into All-Australian selection at 27 last year.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/09/maric-set-to-join-richmond/
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footage?
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We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude
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Not much of him on YouTube, apart from a vid of Maric being interviewed after the Port Adelaide win in July this year.
Seems like a pretty down to earth bloke
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We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude
No none will want the Beefcake once Oblatne-cake comes over from the crows.
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Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol
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Ch 10 news tonight were claiming it's a done deal.
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I have no problems with picking this guy up. I don't want to pay overs. He wants to come home, he's not in there plans going forward.
Round 4 or 5 draft pick.
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Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol
On the crows BF board many believe that they should give us tambling and maric in exchange for the priority pick we got for tambling :lol
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Lack of height is his problem IMO
But Mopsy Maric is 200cm
1cm shorter than Gus & DerrickX (201cm) & 3cm shorter than BrownE (203cm)
So I don't t hink height is an issue
I stand corrected WP for some reason I had him at 198 cms
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Lets just hope it's not pay back for the Tambling trade :lol
On the crows BF board many believe that they should give us tambling and maric in exchange for the priority pick we got for tambling :lol
They are lucky to get a half masticated picnic bar and backhander after getting Kingy suspended like a bunch of primary school bunnies.
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I'd rather chase West with the promise of the No.1 ruckman role although I can't see Geelong letting him go now. The Cats sure know how to find decent ruckmen when you consider they lost Mumford last year.
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We have Beefcake, we dont need this dude
No none will want the Beefcake once Oblatne-cake comes over from the crows.
The Sarma King
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Ch 10 news tonight were claiming it's a done deal.
That would be almost spot on correct
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Blair Hartley is overrated IMHO.
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yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner
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yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner
Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.
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yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner
Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.
I accept his form flattened off after a promising start however he continued to be a workhorse that accumulated plenty of hard earned footy...he replaces a tambling in the side to good effect and he cost us little in andy collins swap who would have struggled big time to break into our side
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yeah, shocking move snaffling houli and grigg for SFA :lol...he's worth his weight in spades. Ive tracked Marics career at same point as Jolly and Jamar and to this point he is bang on...buckle yourself in and look on partner
Whats Grigg done to get you so happy. SFA from what I saw post Round 6.
I accept his form flattened off after a promising start however he continued to be a workhorse that accumulated plenty of hard earned footy...he replaces a tambling in the side to good effect and he cost us little in andy collins swap who would have struggled big time to break into our side
Hard earned footy?
I must be watching a different player. IMO Grigg is a total downhill skier, when the team is up and running well he looks ok.
But his defensive game is barely at VFL standard and has a long long way to go. Is hard ever accountable for his man and doesnt work anywhere near hard enough when we dont have the footy.
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The only thing that Grigg did this year that was "hard earnt" was a place in the 2's late in the season. He tried and tried to get dropped week after week after week and it finally happened.
Everything else was handed to him on a platter.
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Do any of you muppets realise that Grigg is actually only just turned 23?
The guy played his 50th AFL game this year?
Is younger than Nahas and about 3 months older than Shane Edwards?
When did the club suggest that he was the next Chris Judd to pump up your expectations?
The club has never claimed to have picked up a superstar, he's an OK player that does his bit. His bad days will be poor just the same as Jack Riewoldts, Buddy Franklins and even Chris Judd.
Don't wank over spilt milk. Go all in.
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What people are forgetting is that Maric is only 25 and still has plenty upside and improvement to his game.Ruckman take time have look at West at the cats he has been in no mans land last 4 or more seasons in the vfl and people were saying he will get traded or delisted and not up to it the same goes for or Jamar. What are Marics positives and negatives any highlights ppl?.
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so were taking any one these days ?
Maric is a second rate player in a team that we beat even when he was in the ruck.
if Angus beats him whats the point ?
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
4 Years
LOL :lol
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
Oh dear....
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i cant believe that to be true. No way.
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Face palm
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4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???
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4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???
and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
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4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???
and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
The upgrade argument is questionable going by stats :-\.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1522&tid2=15&pid2=1678&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C
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the use of the word 'upgrade' is now an excuse for just "about anything goes" at Richmond from the people who want to support everything the administration do. Maric is an average player, theres no way he should get a 4 year deal. And theres no way that I will support an anything goes mentality. Maric may or may not turn out any good but this is way over the top.
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4 years for a 25 year old fringe player ???
and at that, he's a significant upgrade on the stautues that masquerade as ruckman currentluy on our list...4 years would be to thin the contract out to the min
The upgrade argument is questionable going by stats :-\.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1522&tid2=15&pid2=1678&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C
According to those stats Angus Graham wins on every single measurable. :banghead
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If Maric gets 4 years and Jackson is re signed over the coming months the club are screwed.
Seriously show me one average who gets 4 year deals. WTF
A bigger shock to me would be only an extension of Jacksons contract.
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250k is stuff all
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250k is stuff all
It is but seriously 4 years is ridiculous for a player who doesnt even compare to Gus stats wise. 2 years would have been sufficient and fair
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
This whole trade annoys me.
This is our biggest deficiency in our list and we cover it with a band aid. If we had a decent A Grade ruckman I'd have no problems with Maric coming as a back up.
I just can't see him being an answer to our ruck problems and from what I've seen it just a more consistant performer with the ability of Graham.
Should be going for a bigger fish or going to the VFL IMO.
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As i said in the other thread, Brisbane want ALOT for Mitch Clarke, as he wants to go to Freo and Brisbane want to take Zac Clarke plus a pick. So apart from the bandaid, who is there besides Maric? Im not too concerned about $250k but 4 years is a looonngg time mate (insert shakin head smilie)
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True, eat em. Last year when negotiating with a variety of players, as they priced themselves out of contention they were scrubbed of the list.
It seems that potential trades are given a value, and once they exceed that value then we move on to the next one. There is a method to what they do.
Like most, I'm surprised that that a 25 year bloke who hasn't played 50 games yet would be offered 4 years, and until i see it i wont believe it. At 250K it's not a lot of money though. If he came good we would be getting a bargain in those last years, and if not, would not be a great expense to pay out. The one advantage is that rather than paying more per year for a shorter contract it would free up salary cap space when free agency comes in.
In saying that, I would be surprised if either party agreed to 4 years at 250k a year.
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Just putting it out there but the latest BF rumour doing the rounds is a swap of Maric for Edwards.
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not sure what to think of that...as much as I believe there are knocks on edwards, he has played plenty more senior footy than maric...I would have thought a R3 selection or Nason would be more the go
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not sure what to think of that...as much as I believe there are knocks on edwards, he has played plenty more senior footy than maric...I would have thought a R3 selection or Nason would be more the go
Nason wouldn't get it done. Edwards is a best 22 player (albeit not a good one) Maric is a back up. Hopefully we gain a pick upgrade along the way.
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It's harder this year as picks won't be worth as much as in past drafts. In a normal draft Maric would cost no more than a 3rd rounder at best if that but our 3rd round pick is around pick 55 which won't appeal to the Crows. Our 2nd rounder is approx. around pick 37 but we would want to have more than just one pick (#14) in the top 50. Alternatively the Crows should get a compo pick for Phil Davis so maybe Edwards + pick 37 for Maric + end of 1st round compo pick? At least then we would have up our sleeve 3 picks in the top 20 next year with two compo picks in the bank.
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Yeah tell em they're dreaming.
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Edwards for Maric plus an upgrade. More than adequate deal for us.
Make it happen RFC Edwards has had enough time and games and has produced SFA
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No way a straight swap for Edwards. He is a regular senior player where Maric is not getting a game.
We would a second rounder as well or he can go to the PSD.
Best scenario would be swap for 3rd rounder
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Maric is not a player we want
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Hating this trade.
This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.
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Hating this trade.
This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.
You really need to start reading the papers or this site more thoroughly Pope :banghead :banghead
rightly or wrongly Angus appears to not to be going anywhere - supposedly has another 2 years
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We will be a better side without Edwards.
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
Oh dear....
If that is the case then Craig Cameron needs to be hung drawn and quartered.
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Of course they don't want Nason they have Sloane and Douglas who are bigger bodied and can play that role reasonably or in Sloane's case very well.
In Edwards they don't have a butcherer of the ball like that than lets say Tambling. :lol :rollin :rollin
By the way just thinking Adelaide have not yet named a senior coach so all this may still be poo unless of course Bickley has the job and they are merely going through a process. :shh
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Hating this trade.
This whole trade is poo. Stick with Angus for crying out loud.
P.L. I am with you here.
I have stated Maric is a DUD, I know he is a DUD, can't kick, can't jump, is slow, has no footy brain, won goose of the year award at a recent "I wanna be a Ruckman"'s convention, apart from that he is a very good footballer, just the type we want at RFC if we want to return to last years form.
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Ch 7 in Adelaide last night said that Richmond has convinced Maric to join them and the contract offered is 4 years and a million dollars.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197279&postcount=376
Oh dear....
If that is the case then Craig Cameron needs to be hung drawn and quartered.
reckon the horse has bolted there!
Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!
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Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!
Why do you think Cameron is going anywhere? More to the point, why do you think Cameron thinks he is going anywhere?
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AFL site saying Port now in the mix ....
"The club is also bracing for the loss of second-string ruckman Ivan Maric, who has been linked to Richmond and cross-town rivals Port Adelaide."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123285/default.aspx
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Tucker, I reckon Cameron has figured if he's going to go he may as well go swinging!
Why do you think Cameron is going anywhere? More to the point, why do you think Cameron thinks he is going anywhere?
Going to get hung & quartered. We can only hope he gets walked at the end of next year
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We will be a better side without Edwards.
Doubt Edwards is going anywhere.
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Crows resigned to losing duo
By Katrina Gill 3:29 PM
Tue 13 Sep, 2011
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ADELAIDE is resigned to losing both ruckman Ivan Maric and homesick forward Jack Gunston during next month's AFL exchange period.
Maric is yet to formerly request a trade, but Adelaide expects it will also have to find a new home for the popular big man in the exchange period, which runs from October 10-17.
The 25-year-old was limited to only six appearances for the Crows this season after losing the No.1 ruck spot to ex-Blues rookie Sam Jacobs.
The 77-game Victorian has been strongly linked to Richmond, with Port Adelaide also believed to be interested in securing his services.
Adelaide football operations manager Phil Harper said the club would reluctantly agree to trades for both Gunston and Maric.
"They [Gunston and Maric] are both players we did not want to lose and they had been offered new contracts," Harper told afc.com.au.
"Therefore, we will only be looking at fair and reasonable trades for these players, with the best interests of our club as the main focus."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123339/default.aspx
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Maric trade on track
By Kim Hagdorn
13 September 2011 06:17PM EST
Maric will be among a host of big men on the move in what is shaping as some frenzied trading next month.
Brisbane big forward and back-up ruckman Mitch Clark, Carlton's Shaun Hampson and Fremantle's Jonathon Griffin are all being linked with possible trade bargaining.
Maric, 25, looks headed to the Tigers as a late-maturing big man to solve glaring deficiencies around stoppages and team with exciting young on-ballers Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin and clearances expert Nathan Foley.
Maric is likely to be traded for a second round selection at this year's national draft in November.
He wants to leave the Crows after finishing 2011 and his sixth season on the Crows list behind preferred lead ruckman Sam Jacobs.
The Crows opted for rising key forwards Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan at times for brief stints on the ball in support of Jacobs, ahead of more regular ruck chances for Maric.
Tigers management have identified an imported ruck force along with another powerful defender as priority recruiting targets ahead of next season after finishing 12th with eight wins and a draw.
Maric has played 77 Crows games since his debut early into 2006, but made only six appearances this season.
The 200cm and 102kg former Calder Canons ruckman played three games to launch the season and then only Rounds 19-21 to average 11 possessions an outing and around 12 hitouts a game.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick has identified needs for more aggression and brute force in the stoppages to generate passage for the classy Martin and Cotchin to continue an upward surge toward possible finals next season and beyond.
Maric is considered by Tigers recruiters as an emerging ruckman who could reach his peak of potential in the next few seasons, similar to the late confirmation of capabilities that escalated Melbourne big man Mark Jamar into All-Australian selection at 27 last year.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/13/maric-trade-on-track/
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2nd Rounder :o I hope that is an over-estimated speculation from Adelaide rather than the agreed terms. I won't be happy if we lose our second round pick for Maric. 3rd round and a player (Nason) would be preferable.
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The Crows want more than just a second rounder. They want our/their compo pick we got from them for Tambling back ::)
Tigers look at Maric for compensation
Jake Niall
The Age
September 14, 2011
RICHMOND has opened trade discussions with Adelaide over ruckman Ivan Maric, with the Crows seeking the compensation pick that the Tigers gained by selling Richard Tambling to Adelaide.
Richmond met Adelaide officials over the weekend and talked about Maric, who is out of contract and favours a trade to Tigerland, where he would be given more opportunities and would be favoured to fill the No. 1 ruck position.
It is understood that the Tigers have not yet made any offer to Adelaide. Port Adelaide is another club that may have an interest in Maric, who played just six games this year for the Crows. Maric was behind recruit Sam Jacobs in the ruck pecking order this year, having played 21 games for Adelaide in 2010.
The Crows are believed to have suggested that they should receive back the compensation selection that they traded to the Tigers for Tambling. That selection was compensation for losing Nathan Bock to the Gold Coast and has not yet been utilised by Richmond, which, like most clubs, wanted to wait until the expansion period was concluded and the draft was free of compromises before using the pick.
The Bock selection was an end-of-first-round selection, which would mean it could be between 19 and 23, for the 2012 draft.
The Tigers are keen to secure a ruckman during the trade period and have identified Maric as a low-cost option in terms of money and draft position, compared with the other possibilities.
Maric also is a Victorian, having played his junior football at Keilor and for Calder under 18s.
Maric, while relatively short for a modern ruckman - he is listed at ''only'' 200 centimetres - is aggressive and gives a good contest. He has played 77 games for the Crows since his debut in 2006.
Adelaide's set-up made it difficult for him, since former Carlton ruckman Jacobs was preferred as the main ruck and the Crows can either use 203-centimetre key forward Kurt Tippett, or even 198-centimetre Shaun McKernan in supporting roles, giving greater flexibility in the three-interchange-plus one-substitute system.
Richmond has an excellent forward and second ruck prospect in Tyrone Vickery, who had a breakout season, but the club struggled at centre bounces. Angus Graham and Andrew Browne had opportunities to be main ruckman, without cementing their position in the side.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-look-at-maric-for-compensation-20110913-1k7t6.html#ixzz1XqvWHGgh
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Yeah right our priority pick for guy that played 5 games this year that can stick up there ass tell them to add Gunston .For that I would want guy playing week in and week out atleast Tambling was.
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with the Crows seeking the compensation pick that the Tigers gained by selling Richard Tambling to Adelaide.
Talk about dreaming! :rollin
That compo pick is worth far more now given this year's draft is definitely weaker than last year's and we're only 12 months away from it being a end of first round pick in the expected strong 2012 draft. No way is it equal in worth to a fringe player who is their 3rd choice ruckman. This sounds like a ambit claim to eventually settle for and score our 2nd rounder (~pick 37).
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He's out of contract so lets just sit it out and wait for the PSD. Even a secound rounder is pushing it.
I would so a straight swap for Jackson
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Hindsight is obviously a wonderful thing in Adelaide ;D
They gave up pick 20 and now they want it back...it isn't our fault they gave it up in the first place ;D
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Surely Trent West is a better option. Vardy / TommaHawk combination will be at Geelong for a decade and Dawsom Simpson looks lively.
I'd rather West than Maric.
Plus Ottens may go around again.
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3rd rounder at best for Maric. Done nothing and isnt worth any pick in the top 40 and certainly not the concession pick.
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They can bash sand up before we give em that pick.
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3rd rounder plus Nason TOPS.
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Adelaide paid picks 33 and 67 last year for Sam Jacobs so for them to ask for our end of first round compo pick is laughable. The most they will get is our second rounder which is around pick 37 and even then we are paying over the odds.
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How funny is this from the dibby dobbers! - If we 'really' want him?, let him walk.
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It's harder for us to get someone to walk to us for free in the PSD this year as we don't have a early PSD pick. Last year we had pick 2; this year we have pick 6.
1. Gold Coast
2. Port Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Adelaide
5. Melbourne
6. Richmond
We would need to frontload his contract on offer to scare off the 5 clubs in front of us.
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Doubt we could front-load a contract anymore than Port Adelaide could.
Given their dire need for a ruckman also, would have thought our best chance to snag Maric would be via trade.
Perhaps Adelaide should have looked at upping his value a little by playing him in more than 3 out of the last 6 rounds...rather than just stating they want a 2nd round pick.
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No I think the front loading option is a good option. If Port look like they will match it then perhaps we could back load it and while this may be ackward if we manage players contracts correctly, this may scare off Port and at the very least make Adelaide be a little less demanding at the trade table.
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Do they need to be scared off?
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Apparently we only want him if he's cheap. Compo or 2nd round isn't exactly cheap. Would expect us to back off or push him to walk.
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If Maric says Tigers or bust I think the PSD is the best option. No other club seems to but in if the player commits to one club. Bugger off Crows
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I think we'll try to do a fair trade provided the Crows are reasonable. Maintaining good trading relations can come in handy in the future. Only if Adelaide starting carrying on like Essendon did with Houli last year will we resort to saying stuff 'em let's grab Maric in the PSD.
Btw we gained the compo pick plus pick 51 (MacDonald) for Tambling so the article isn't exactly correct.
Also Adelaide gave up Griffin to Freo last year for only pick 61. So they are kidding themselves based on their own trades last year to now expect a compo pick in return for Maric.
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exactly MT - i dont care how diluted this draft is, Maric is not worth pick 2 in any draft and as for the compo pick... :lol
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Not happy with this trade unless he comes to us for virtually nix. I don't rate him but he couldn't be any worse than Graham so he would need to cost us nothing for me to be even remotely satisfied with it.
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Craig said he was someone you'd like in the trenches with you a few years ago.
You'd expect he'd have a dip on the field.
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Who is this year's best trade bait?
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
September 15, 2011
2. Ivan Maric (Adelaide)
It is a done deal that he will get to Richmond, it's just the price clubs Adelaide and the Tigers are haggling over.
No, he isn't a superstar, but his Adelaide teammates rate him as a tap ruckman.
And the Tigers don't need him to become Shane Mumford, they just need him as a stop-gap for several years.
They actually believe Ty Vickery will eventually become their star ruckman, so don't want to give up a raft of draft picks when they will have a solution soon.
All of Ben Griffiths, David Astbury, Jayden Post and Matt Dea are tall options if Vickery eventually finds himself as a ruckman.
Adelaide wants the compo pick back that they gave Richmond for Richard Tambling, which would likely be late teens or early 20s.
It's about the right price given Tambling hasn't fired much, but who knows if Richmond are prepared to hand it over?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/who-is-this-years-best-trade-bait/story-fn6cisdj-1226137300852
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We better effing not. If we do then we're still a bunch of dumbasses. If that's what they want then stick with Beefcake and the VLC.
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And you love it Davey cakes........
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I Think Ralphy has been on the Turps.
"compo pick right price cause Tambling hasn't fired"
Now WTF has Tambling got to do with Maric.
Seriously we can't let this happen
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IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric
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IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric
That would just be poohouse from us tho, al. We raped them with the Tambo trade. effing molested the dobber pricks. No need to give that compo pick back just to be nice ;D
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IF...and i hope thats a big if... we gave back the compo pick for Maric, then it would in effect be a swap of tambling for Maric
No Al it would not be
Tambling has been done and dusted finished
The trade would be Maric for a compo pick in a super draft
They are trying to bend us over like we bent them over
These 2 players have and should have nothing to do with each other.
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When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow
Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".
As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?
Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?
Does anyone know for sure how this works?
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When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow
Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".
As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?
Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?
Does anyone know for sure how this works?
It's an 'end of first round compensation pick', which means it falls directly after the first round.
This year and last year, the first round ends in the late 20's because of the GC and GWS having 9-10 picks in the first round. Next year the first round ends at pick 18, which means our pick would be 19 if activated (pending of course there are no priority picks given out which would push our pick back further).
Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer. :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.
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Haha, well researched Ralphy.
Matt Dea is a tall option!!! :wallywink
Also, as already mentioned, what has Tambling get to do with this? Are we supposed to give the pick back just because Tambling hasn't fired 'We'll trade you Tambling, but he comes with a 12 month draft pick back guarantee if he's no good'?
No refunds Adelaide, thanks for the compo pick and Dean McDonald..... suckers! ;D
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I Think Ralphy has been on the Turps.
"compo pick right price cause Tambling hasn't fired"
Now WTF has Tambling got to do with Maric.
Seriously we can't let this happen
Exactly daniel - what Tambling has or hasn't done is irrelevant and is past history. Just another idiotic footy journo coming up with crap logic ::). I mean according to Ralph's logic we should give Houli back to Essendon for just their PSD pick ::).
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i dont believe we will trade with Adelaide.
Dimma is not stupid well i hope his not. After what they did to King we should give them an ultimatum 3rd rounder or nason's left testy or shove it up your date.
stuffin dobbers what a pathetic bunch they are over there
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i dont believe we will trade with Adelaide.
Dimma is not stupid well i hope his not. After what they did to King we should give them an ultimatum 3rd rounder or nason's left testy or shove it up your date.
stuffin dobbers what a pathetic bunch they are over there
I couldn't agree more Dan but the problem we are desperate for a ruckman and if the club has identified Maric as the best available the unfortunately we have to go for it :banghead I would be bitterly disappointed if we give anything less than a 3rd rounder though :pray
Edit: edited quote
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There are more ruckmen around should Adelaide be unreasonable. Blake from Geelong is on a par with Maric and wont come with a high price tag.
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When you trade a player for a pick, then retrade that pick for a player, you are in effect trading player for player, which is WTF tambling has to do with Maric. That's a pretty simple line of logic to follow
Not saying i would be happy to see it happen, which is why i said "IF..and i hope thats a big if..".
As a side note, I'm curious as to where this super draft concept comes from? is it because there will actually be good depth, or is it simply because it will be the first non compromised in three years?
Depending on where we finish next year, that pick could actually be later than where it would have been last year, even accounting for the gold coast concessions, or is it still based on where Adelaide finish? ..or finished in 2010?
Does anyone know for sure how this works?
It's an 'end of first round compensation pick', which means it falls directly after the first round.
This year and last year, the first round ends in the late 20's because of the GC and GWS having 9-10 picks in the first round. Next year the first round ends at pick 18, which means our pick would be 19 if activated (pending of course there are no priority picks given out which would push our pick back further).
Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer. :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.
Cheers JVT
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blake is another angus
no way to blake
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Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer. :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.
Further to this talk on 2012 draft, it's been reported by a few junior experts that the reason why it's so good is because there are a lot (read 10 to 20) top line key position players as well as slightly more than usual numbers of other types.
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Jon Ralph is a crayon eater
total peanut
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John Ralph is a Rubber Phallus
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Jon Ralph is a crayon eater
total peanut
:lol
MISS HOOVER: Now, take some paste and spread it on the construction paper... Ralph! Are you eating your paste?
RALPH: No Miss Hoover
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Next years draft is being dubbed the best, if not better than the 2001 draft, not because GWS and GC domination of picks has passed, but purely because of the talent on offer and how far into the draft it will be on offer. :thumbsup We must hold on to that pick at all costs, and if we do trade it, it should be bundled with a player of ours for an absolute superstar or one of GWS' 17yo's.
Further to this talk on 2012 draft, it's been reported by a few junior experts that the reason why it's so good is because there are a lot (read 10 to 20) top line key position players as well as slightly more than usual numbers of other types.
The Club definitely wants to free up as many picks for next year's draft. That's why I don't believe we will trade our compo pick unless someone becomes available during trade week that we couldn't say no to. Maric of course ain't it.
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If you all look back, the RFC has continually had to draft recycled ruckman. I don't think we have had a decent first string one club ruckman since the General & Benny Gale. Greg Dear, Greg Stafford, Troy Simmonds & Trent Knobel-Lodygood were all reasonable ruckman (Trent not so much). Our recent attempts to grow our own ruckman have not been too successful with Patto, Beefcake & Browne, so maybe Maric may fit the bill.
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Staff was a very good ruckman. Just spent too much time on the sidelines with suspension or injury
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Ottens wasn't too bad but he had no interest in RFC at the time.
If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.
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If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.
lol.....Don't you think the problem is NONE OF THESE GUY"S ARE AVAILABLE :banghead I am sure if the best ruckman going round was on the market we would be doing everything in our power to woe him! I am sure we have made inquires to the managment to half a dozen top line ruckmen but to be honest as far as a club goes we don't actually offer allot of incentive for them to come to us at the moment :o :o :o
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If we had any brains we would go and buy the best ruckman going around instead of mucking around with recycled rubbish. Who is coming up?? I would plough big $ into getting Nic Nat if he was available.
lol.....Don't you think the problem is NONE OF THESE GUY"S ARE AVAILABLE :banghead I am sure if the best ruckman going round was on the market we would be doing everything in our power to woe him! I am sure we have made inquires to the managment to half a dozen top line ruckmen but to be honest as far as a club goes we don't actually offer allot of incentive for them to come to us at the moment :o :o :o
Unfortunately I have to agree, it isn't like we are in a 2 year premiership window
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Staff was a very good ruckman. Just spent too much time on the sidelines with suspension or injury
The problem wasn't necessarily with Staff but how we got him. The Club forced Benny Gale into retirement because we couldn't afford him to go on post-2001 after Gas and Ben Holland's new contracts took up a large chunk of our salary cap. Without a partner ruck for Ottens we had to sell farm to find a quick replacement. That meant our first round pick in the 2001 superdraft plus paying the Swans to take Daffy's large contract off our hands to get Staff. That pick ended up being James Kelly to Geelong :scream. Well done Mark Brayshaw :banghead.
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Gotta agree that the compo for Maric is well over the odds.
Perhaps offer a 4th (with words to the effect of thats a 2nd rounder + a round for each week the Push-up King received) and settle back to accept the 3rd round choice, with reluctance of course. ;D
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We didn't cave last year when Essendon wanted our 2nd rounder for Houli :wallywink so hopefully we do the same with the Crows ridiculously asking for the compo pick.
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Just got home from the G, i know it wont happen but gee Mumford would be handy. Played a super game tonight and was the driving force behind the Swans getting back into the game.
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Mumford doesn't just play footy ,he influences the game
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Mumford doesn't just play footy ,he influences the game
Pity he couldn't win the game for them.
:cheers
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lol umpires 'influence' games too doesn't make them good footballers.
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Adelaide Crows want compo pick
Jesper Fjeldstad
From: Sunday Mail (SA)
September 17, 2011 10:00PM
ADELAIDE is talking to Richmond about trading Ivan Maric with the compo pick they used for Richard Tambling.
Maric, a Victorian who has slipped in the pecking order at West Lakes after the recruitment of ex-Blue Sam Jacobs, is understood to want to play for a club where he has more opportunity and Richmond is one of the suitors.
The biggest hurdle with all potential trades is agreeing on how the club that loses a player is compensated, but it is understood an option of trading Maric for a compensation pick is being explored. It's the pick that keeps giving - potentially being used as currency for the third time.
The Crows initially received the end-of-first-round draft pick from the AFL in compensation for Nathan Bock's departure to the Gold Coast last year and then traded it to Richmond to acquire the services of Tambling.
The Tigers, in turn, banked the pick, which can be used up until 2015, and now the Crows will consider it as full or partial payback for Maric. Richmond is understood to be seeking a No. 1 ruckman to work alongside Tyron Vickery and Maric, 25, has been identified as one who can make up for his lack of height (he is listed at 200cm but was listed at 198 cm in 2010) with his competitiveness and second efforts.
If the Maric deal goes through, the Crows will keep an eye out for a ruckman but they are not desperate to find one, knowing they have both Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan who can be used as pinch-hitters behind Jacobs.
On top of Adelaide's wish list for the trade and draft period is to find another key defender - because of the departures of Bock and Phil Davis - and more midfielders.
The Crows have put a contract offer in front of Tony Armstrong, who returned to the side late this season after a rich vein of form in the SANFL, and hope to retain his services.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/adelaide-crows-want-compo-pick/story-fn76njus-1226139924041
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Would be waste if we did that.
Keep the compo and stay firm. Offer them McGuane and Nason.
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we must keep that pick and use it smartly when we r already in the 8 and then can pick up a good kid. do not ever give that pick back to adelaide or anyone
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They can explore it all they stuffing like...unless they are throwing a decent sweetener in with that they might as well be exploring ... a hand mirror for all I care.
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:lol
West Lakes Waffles
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Drop that compo pick and I will drop manure on CC head
Dimma can get stuffed too
It will be the biggest blunder since the trading for McMahon
Don't stuffin do it Richnond
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Drop that compo pick and I will drop manure on CC head
Dimma can get stuffed too
It will be the biggest blunder since the trading for McMahon
Don't stuffin do it Richnond
Don't know that I'll join in the manure drop Daniel but I agree 100% with the rest of it!
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Jon Ralph on SEN said Maric to Richmond is a done deal but he didn't mention what the deal is.
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second rounder I bet.
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Two days ago we hadnt made a deal. Its a done deal he's coming to us though. Just need to find a fair trade.
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oh c'mon I got edited for that? They could be checking their makeup...
Obviously you never went to art school lol
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Exactly,
The 2 decision of Maric and resigning Jackson have been pathetic.
If Jackson is resigned I wont be buying a membership next year, If we give up overs for Maric just validates it was the correct decision.
Makes me sad
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Exactly,
The 2 decision of Maric and resigning Jackson have been pathetic.
If Jackson is resigned I wont be buying a membership next year, If we give up overs for Maric just validates it was the correct decision.
Makes me sad
thats pathetic what kind of supporter are you...a fair dinkum joke that's what :lol
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agree :lol
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Yep I totally agree
For the life of me I cannot understand why we bothered getting that bloke who couldn't get a game at the lowly bombers .... :banghead :banghead what was his name again ? ? ?? ? ?
Oh yeah that's right.... BACHAR HOULI... heard of him
:rollin
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
you are a bunny jack :rollin :rollin
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I would have taken a few from last year's Weagles.
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
::) ::)
The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.
You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."
I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now :rollin ;D
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i give up ::)
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havn't you ever given your poor suffering staff the quitters never win and winners never quit speech?
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
::) ::)
The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.
You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."
I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now :rollin ;D
well done willie,
I know correcting jack isnt much of a challenge, its like picking low lying fruit, but you do it well.
What an absolute bunny that man is :wallywink
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i give up ::)
Agree - I think you should ;D
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The Maric talk bewilders me.
I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.
Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.
I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home! :lol
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The Maric talk bewilders me.
I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.
Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.
I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home! :lol
Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric. I'm not saying Maric is a superstar or will end up like Mumford, but he is miles in front of Browne and Graham. Graham is pathetic.
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The Maric talk bewilders me.
I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.
Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.
I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home! :lol
I know you were kidding but we could offer Nic Nat $1.5 mill a year and he still wouldnt come. :(
Will be an eagle for life.
I personally think Maric will have a positive effect at Richmond, he might not be too much of an improvement than Graham but what it will do is make sure Angus works his arse off to keep his spot, this season he was coasting along being a lazy prick. I think if we can get a 10% improvement out of him it would make a huge difference. It would give someone like Browne & Derrickx much needed time to develop properly.
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Browne needs more than time to develop properly, he needs an effing miracle.
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
::) ::)
The "issue" as you put it is not relevant to what you posted.
You simply said "why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "". Especially when they cant get a game there."
I responded to that using Houli as an example because he clearly fits into the categories YOU listed ... a bit too late to change the criteria now :rollin ;D
well done willie,
I know correcting jack isnt much of a challenge, its like picking low lying fruit, but you do it well.
What an absolute bunny that man is :wallywink
maybe you should do some work Blaisee, mail about business isnt that flash ;)
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You might find that is a completely different issue with Bachar and Essendon .
How? The fact that hindsight showed us Bachar could actually play?
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I reackon Houli is a gun for what its worth.
Had issues at Bombers
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and maric had injuries.
...but let me guess, one is a reason and the other is an excuse?
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I reackon Houli is a gun for what its worth.
Had issues at Bombers
Issues, injuries, - not relevant to your initial argument
Facts are he could not get a game for what ever reason in a crap bottom 4 side in the bombers in 2010
Under the criteria you are using for why the club shouldn't recruit Maric we should not have recruited Houli
;D ;D
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The Maric talk bewilders me.
I believe he would be a backward step from Graham & Browne.
Why Jacobs & Mumford were not chased when then left their original clubs shows how slow we are to identify real list need.
I too would throw a heap of money at Naitanui.
Aim high or go home! :lol
Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric. I'm not saying Maric is a superstar or will end up like Mumford, but he is miles in front of Browne and Graham. Graham is pathetic.
and brownes not? :chuck
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and brownes not? :chuck
Browne at least just turned 21 a short while ago. Deserves a bit more time,plenty of big guys have started slowly.
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"Its funny, both Jacobs and Mumford were spoken about the same way you and others are now speaking of Maric"
BY who? Mummy could clearly play. Showed quite a bit in his last year at Geelong. And Jacobs effing dominated the elim final last year didn't he? Maric is what? 25? Maybe he does have a dip but he is hardly better than Beefcake.
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Back off Davey >:( >:(Maric will crush the Beefcake back into his toasted bun where he belongs :eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
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and brownes not? :chuck
Browne at least just turned 21 a short while ago. Deserves a bit more time,plenty of big guys have started slowly.
I think Browne has time on his side as opposed to Gus, BTW I think if we are serious they should both be gone by 2012 end. Maric and Derickx to take most of our ruck load next year, hoping that Derickx can stay fit and free of injury because he is a tackle machine for a bloke so big and actually knows how to take a contested grab.
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New Adelaide coach Brenton Sanderson just said when asked about Maric that they will be having a list management meeting tomorrow.
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The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.
Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.
This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567
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The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.
Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.
This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567
Sign Neil sign
You'll be unconditionally loved by so many if you sign :rollin :rollin :rollin
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That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf
Craig must be a done deal
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I believe Neil would be a great addition to our fitness and coaching team and if that mean's Maric declining to join us then so be it.
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That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf
Craig must be a done deal
I think u may be onto something.
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That's why we've suddenly be linked to Renouf
Craig must be a done deal
I think u may be onto something.
EFA
;D
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The once-seemingly certain passage of out-of-contract Crows ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond has found a pause.
Maric may decline the Tigers' advance should deposed Crows coach Neil Craig find his way to Punt Road on a three-year deal to be coach Damien Hardwick's senior assistant/mentor or coaching director.
This might keep Maric in Adelaide, but seeking a trade to the Power which also wants an experienced ruckman to replace premiership player Dean Brogan and to support novice Matthew Lobbe.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ebert-on-powers-wanted-list/story-e6freco3-1226144089567
Sign Neil sign
You'll be unconditionally loved by so many if you sign :rollin :rollin :rollin
:lol
It's a shame we couldn't have signed Rodney Eade prior to the Jordie trade ;D.
In all seriousness though I still think the Club will trade for Maric given I was told a few weesk ago he had signed a HOA with us :-\.
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yeah unless you were told bs...
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I was told that Knobel was coming back to Richmond but none of you listened.
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yeah unless you were told bs...
:nope ;)
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Strike three as Crows lose Armstrong
Andrew Capel
From: The Advertiser
September 24, 2011
TONY Armstrong is the third Crow to walk out on the club in two weeks.
In another body blow to Brenton Sanderson's new side, Armstrong has requested a trade to Sydney.
He joins other wantaway Crows, forward Jack Gunston and ruckman Ivan Maric, in quitting Adelaide.
Gunston, 19, wants to return home to Victoria - where he is being chased by up to five clubs - while Maric, 25, is seeking opportunities at another club after having fallen behind Sam Jacobs, Kurt Tippett and Shaun McKernan in the ruck pecking order at Adelaide.
Richmond is the favourite to secure the popular big man's services.
Noble said the Crows - who have a sad history of losing non-South Australians to interstate rivals - were virtually resigned to losing the trio and would now try to work deals for players and/or draft picks.
"We'll have another chat with them or their managers because you have to make sure they understand we've got a new coach, a good group together and they could get different opportunities," he said.
"So if they want to stay, that's fine; but if they don't want to work with us and help us move forward, then it's best we move people out who don't want to be here."
With this year's national draft described as "shallow", Ade- laide will be seeking reason- ably high draft picks for its exit men.
"We're touching base with clubs at the moment to see what's on offer," Noble said.
"But we'd expect something of value in return for all three of them, whether it's players or draft picks."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/strike-three-as-crows-lose-armstrong/story-e6frecoc-1226144979141
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New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"
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New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"
Hmm
How does this sound for a trade for Maric ;D
Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder ;D :rollin
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New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"
Hmm
How does this sound for a trade for Maric ;D
Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder ;D :rollin
I would call that a win :lol
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Here is Maric's SANFL stats this year playing with the Port Adelaide Magpies....
http://www.portmagpies.com.au/player_profile.php?pid=1012
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New Adelaide coach Brent Sanderson was interviewed on 3aw prior to today's game. I only caught the last bit of it but he sounded like they have accepted Maric will be leaving - "We just know Maric will be an Adelaide player up until the trade period"
Hmm
How does this sound for a trade for Maric ;D
Maric & theis 2nd rounder for Connors and our 2nd rounder ;D :rollin
Given Connors 2010 we could probably make it our 3rd for their 2nd. But that's probably greedy.
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Here is Maric's SANFL stats this year playing with the Port Adelaide Magpies....
http://www.portmagpies.com.au/player_profile.php?pid=1012
:'(
Doesn't exactly dominate at that level does he? I'm not a fan of giving away much at all to get Maric, I don't have very high expectations that he will be much better than Beefcake. If we do get him then I think the best outcome for 2012 will be that either Browne or Derricxk show improvement. Hope I'm wrong about him but I'm already nervous.
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The beefcake is getting so ripped for 2012 he is going to smash all opposition
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one word...whoa...thats what i call domination...He could be the next BIG thing :shh
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Sanderson is more understanding of Maric's desire to be a lead ruckman at a rival AFL club now this role has been secured by Sam Jacobs at Adelaide.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/crows-coach-wants-drafting-process-widenened-to-include-non-sa-players/story-e6frecoc-1226146191465
Hopefully that "understanding" also means we get Maric cheaply.
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I agree with him, it always irritated me that the princesses up in Sydney/Brisbane etc get more money to live in a city with all the luxuries and mod cons of a big city and those who live in Adelaide and Port Adelaide or Freo etc are basically living in big country or coastal towns. Freo is nice but it still is a long way from home if your from the east coast. It has literally dismantled Port and Freo are constantly being pilfered.
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Greg Denham mentioned this morning on KB's show that in his opinion a second round pick for Maric is about right but that Adelaide are still asking for higher (ie. our compo pick).
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They can get stuffed. PSD it is.
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Greg Denham mentioned this morning on KB's show that in his opinion a second round pick for Maric is about right but that Adelaide are still asking for higher (ie. our compo pick).
Youve got to be joking Denham. 2nd round pick for a spud stop gap ruckman who has only once averaged dbl digit possessions in his career? blimey, if we pay overs for Maric I will be one angry idiot
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Exactly we can't play hardball on Houli and get him via the PSD only to hand back our banked compo pick. Will be terrible by the club and I am sure they are aware of it so the fact this is lingering for so long I think means that there is no finality on this and Adelaide are more hopeful we come to the party rather than us willing to party.
If Tambling is a dud so be it Crows suck it up. We aint handing it back for nothing.
We have hardly spoken on this and it seems all the articles on this have been from Adelaide's end and what they are looking for.
If Maric is coming to Richmond I think it may only be through the PSD.
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You're spot on Tuckerbag. There's no way RFC will give us compensation pick for slight upgrade to Graham
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Not even an upgrade. What is the effing point of replacing Beefcake with this bloke
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Dead right TB, we do not need to give anything up for this bloke, really a last round pick and Edwards would do I reckon.... :thumbsup
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Edwards is being extremely generous dont you think?? He has more currency than a 4th tier ruckman
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Edwards is being extremely generous dont you think?? He has more currency than a 4th tier ruckman
Um no I don't, wouldnt exactly call Edwards anything more than a fringe player..average at that. Maybe we just give Edwards as the last round pick may be of more value.
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Ruckmen are usually overpriced when in demand. Although we won't like it, a 2nd round pick (our pick 37) is most likely the price we'll end up paying when Jacobs went to the Crows last year for picks 34 & 67. Maybe even pick 37 + Nason. As everyone else has said no way should our compo pick be on the table. Of course when we turn up to trade week we should be offering an ambit claim of a 3rd or 4th round pick for Maric.
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How about we go after Maric only through the PSD and tell Adelaide to go and f themselves and play hardball with them as we did with Essendon.
I think someone like Renouf would be a better ruckman for us rather than Maric. Renouf's work around the ground is alot better and more crisp.
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We would need to convince Maric to not nominate for the National Draft and wait for the PSD and then front-load his 4-year contract to scare off the 5 clubs with earlier picks - GC, Port, Bris, Adel and Melb.
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We would need to convince Maric to not nominate for the National Draft and wait for the PSD and then front-load his 4-year contract to scare off the 5 clubs with earlier picks - GC, Port, Bris, Adel and Melb.
4 year contract lol. Unbelievable and Stupid IMHO. :banghead
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Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
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I think hes better than Graham (Just) its the 4 year contract that is the problem. Shouldnt have been offered more than 2 years IMHO.
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The four year contract is a strange one IF true.
The reported value is not much in the scheme of things for an AFL though and if we had to terminate his contract early we would not be paying out a great deal, even more so if the contract was front loaded.
Personally i have serious doubts about a 4 year contract being true though
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Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
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I thought the whole idea was for Blair Hartley to identify unfulfilled talent at other clubs. Talent that we believe we can take to the next level. Anyone can pick the top players from opposition teams, it's identifying the ones that are under performing and not getting opportunities, that's where the real skill is.
He could end up looking like a complete idiot or a genius.
I suppose we'll see.
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Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
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He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Reportedly via the unrelaible media
BTW the last long term contract we offered a ruckman in a trade situation dind't tunr out too bad IIRC ::)
;D
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Yeah but that bloke was a decent player who could also play forward. Maric :(
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Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.
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Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.
I don't think the reasoning why Maric has not been getting a game matters as the trade and what price we pay for it (if any if he goes PSD) should be based on what he has done in his career thus far.
I prefer to get him PSD and not lose anything for him like the Houli situation last year.
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Maric is much better than Graham . . . people are comparing stats he has collated based on being a second string ruckman in games. If he was number 1 ruck choice like Graham is, his numbers would poo all over Gus.
He couldn't get a game for Adelaide and we offer a four year contract
Houli couldn't get a game at Essendon last year. There are more reasons then form as to why a player doesn't get picked each week, look at Port last 5 years, giving games based on merit alone.
I don't think the reasoning why Maric has not been getting a game matters as the trade and what price we pay for it (if any if he goes PSD) should be based on what he has done in his career thus far.
I prefer to get him PSD and not lose anything for him like the Houli situation last year.
I agree Tucker, we shouldn't pay anything over a 3rd rounder for him, or a straight swap for a Nason type player. PSD is my preferred option unless we have someone better planned for there.
My previous comment was simply stating he cant be judged on his stats (which were collated on limited game time) and that not being selected every week proves nothing, as this could be for many other reasons.
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How many dud ruckmen does one club need?
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3 average ruckmen = no ruckmen.
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another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
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another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
He was our best tap ruckman for a long time although he didn't play many games. We were the best hit out to advantage team in the first half of 2005 all thanks to Knobel 8)
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another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
No offence mate, but what are you on ? Been in a negative mood all week.
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another Trent Knobel on his way ::)
He was our best tap ruckman for a long time although he didn't play many games. We were the best hit out to advantage team in the first half of 2005 all thanks to Knobel 8)
Yep. Pathetic from you, JJ. Effing pathetic. Knobel was a beanpole but he was a good tap ruckman. Maric isn't even that ;D
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I bait you blokes everyweek and you all for in.LOL
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Think you'll find we've been baiting you for years and you keep coming back for more.
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:lol
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a few toys ended up on the floor when it was looking like we would not get craig so his opinion on such matters would be held in in some stead?
"He is making some real strides," Craig said of Maric.
"He's doing some outstanding work, with a good workrate, he's starting to be more dominant around the field, particularly in defence.
"He will become one of the elite big men in the competition.
"Off the field, he's really developing some leadership and I think that adds to his game - he's come a long way and will continue to do so."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/neil-craig-backs-ivan-maric-against-aaron-sandilands/story-e6frf9jf-1225875516022
"He will become one of the elite big men in the competition"
is a pretty big call!
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I have refused ri read this thread as I know I wont like what I read.
If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.
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If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.
Someone pass the bucket ;D
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:chuck
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If Maric comes to the club for free or peanuts, then great. If we have to pay with a 3rd rounder or higher. I'll spew up.
Someone pass the bucket ;D
Its gonna have to be a bloody big bucket if what we're reading on the forums is any reaction to whats gonna happen.
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rumour is connors for big ivan
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rumour is connors for big ivan
yep. Connors new best mates on twitter are Bernie Vince and Taylor Walker. Think we do alright in that deal. Doubt Connors was going to be best 22 anyway next year.
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happy with it as long as big Ivan doesn't get 4 years. Beefcake is the forgotten man :(
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Beefy hasn't eaten a carb in 7 years.
For that alone he should be captain.
Maric has never slapped and told her to "Go all in",so how good a ruckman could he be,serously....
Andrew Browne should be told to pack up his banjo and his running style and pawned,all for the price of a meal and a roof over his head.
Do with him what they will.
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rumour is connors for big ivan
Rumour on Carlton forums is that Jordan Russell may be heading home and traded to Adelaide. If that's true it could be combined with the rumour about us looking to do a trade with Carlton - such as a 3-way swap:
Connors -> Carlton
Russell -> Adelaide
Maric -> Richmond
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Connors traded out will do me
Whether it's Adel, Carlton or Moyhu 2nds I really don't care ;D
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Connors traded out will do me
Whether it's Adel, Carlton or Moyhu 2nds I really don't care ;D
Yep its actually a positive bc I am/was convinced no-one would look at him.
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...i'd be ok with connors for maric but agree anything higher than a 3rd rounder would be junk...espesh if we hold the cards and can get him via PSD (not my preferred method but still gives us the upper hand)...connors is on the way out anyway so getting a "need" in return would be handy...don't think Maric will be a superstar or "one of the elite big men in the comp" as quoted, but hopefully develops late like a Jamar (and he had a reasonably solid 2010)...anyone that can help feed our mids a bit would be an upgrade...
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Still on my phone since the net isn't connected in my new place still so i cant tell if this has been said already and hopefully this link isn't buggered up: http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22479684&postcount=136
A few blokes on BF have said that Connors' new mates on Twitter are Taylor Walker and Bernie Vince and they were 'tweetibg' about hanging out and such. Sounds like we can nearly pencil in Connors <-> Maric. Doesn't make a difference to me. Connors has been non-existent.
Edit/update/whatever: just checked out twitter to see what the deal was and searched for danconnors19-
"The greatest man @texwalker13 alive new bestie get right around him" -danconnors19
"@Danconnors19 Dan the man!! The suit on it!!" -texwalker13
"Happy birthday to @bvince17 xxx see u soon hopefully" -danconnors19
And there are some more. Sounds like he's keen himself on heading to Adelaide. The x's to Vince are concerning though. At least we can use Maric and Rance to recruit some female supporters.
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In other trade news, Richmond and Adelaide remain at loggerheads over ruckman Ivan Maric going to Punt Rd, with negotiations likely to go deep into trade week.
The Tigers have promised to trade aggressively, but a deal is some way off despite Maric's determination to leave South Australia.
Richmond does not want to give up its first round pick (No.14) or the compensation pick it received last year from Adelaide for Richard Tambling.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/disgruntled-crow-jack-gunston-wants-to-join-hawthorn/story-e6frf9jf-1226157578861
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They have got to be kidding :help
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If we give that compensation pick back to them we are a stuffing joke, fair dinkum joke.
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Richmond does not want to give up its first round pick (No.14) or the compensation pick it received last year from Adelaide for Richard Tambling.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/disgruntled-crow-jack-gunston-wants-to-join-hawthorn/story-e6frf9jf-1226157578861
:thumbsup :thumbsup ONYA Tiges ;D
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Lets hope they do not give in on this one.
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They won't give in, and Adelaide will not be receiving anything more than our 3rd pick for Maric. I have the utmost confidence that we will get Maric for what WE are willing to pay. To be perfectly honest, the longer it goes into trade week the better, PSD will be looming for him, just as it did for Bachar. :clapping
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You know, nowhere in the article does it actually state that the crows are asking for a first round or compo pick, just that richmond are not prepared to give it up.
The crayon muncher is just being mischievous. I'm sure they put things in their articles just to see what reaction they get on the forums.
It also goes completely against the idea of a straight swap for connors?
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agree Al
ralphy doesnt get enough fibre from his crayola bran
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The Crows will be a big player in trade week.
They have to try to work deals with Hawthorn, Richmond and Sydney, who want forward Jack Gunston, ruckman Ivan Maric and midfielder Tony Armstrong respectively.
Noble said Adelaide wants a combination of players and draft picks inside the top 30 for the trio.
"I won't go into specific trade options because there's still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge but we expect something good in return for these players," he said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-will-have-first-call-on-brad-ebert/story-e6freco3-1226159696597
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So they basically want good stuff for poor to average players. lol. We have to be stupid to give them any more than a 3rd rounder and Nason.
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Yep.
All 3 of those blokes are average footballers, all are out of contract, and all have stated their preferred destinations.
The Crows are about to get gangbanged.
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Yep.
All 3 of those blokes are average footballers, all are out of contract, and all have stated their preferred destinations.
The Crows are about to get gangbanged.
Rich, Haw, Syd should just offer them peanuts. Adelaide can't draft them all back in PSD. :lol
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ahh poor ol crows, they want their compo pick back for tambo....they hava da buyers remorse
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From the Adelaide BF Board ....
Trade #2: Maric To Richmond
Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)
Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)
:wallywink :rollin :stupid
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From the Adelaide BF Board ....
Trade #2: Maric To Richmond
Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)
Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)
:wallywink :rollin :stupid
When I read this last night I lost it. I'm still not sure their struggle trying to understand it. If Maric can be scooped up in the PSD for no easier than a third then why in hell would we pay more in a trade? :banghead
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From the Adelaide BF Board ....
Trade #2: Maric To Richmond
Adelaide
Lose
-Maric
-Pick 18 (1st Round)
Gain
-Pick 14 (1st Round)
-Bock Compensation pick
-Nason (Possibly)
:wallywink :rollin :stupid
Funniest post on this board for a long time. Wonder what they have been smoking, what ever it is is friggin good.
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golden grove kush
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Just got to watch snowtown the other day 8)
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Just got to watch snowtown the other day 8)
Roll out the barrel. ;D
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Tigers keen to talk trade deal on Maric
by: Zac Milbank
From: The Advertiser
October 07, 2011
RICHMOND is refusing to be drawn on what Adelaide can expect in exchange for wantaway Crows ruckman Ivan Maric.
As trade week talks begin in Melbourne on Monday, Richmond's head of football Craig Cameron would not buy into speculation the Tigers' first-round draft pick (No. 14) would be used to take Maric to Tigerland.
"I'm hopeful we can come to a deal with Adelaide. I know they've got a couple of other things on the go," Cameron said, alluding to deals the Crows need to finalise for the departing Tony Armstrong and Jack Gunston.
"Adelaide has always been a club which is good to deal with in trade week so I'm hopeful we can come to an arrangement next week."
Speaking publicly for the first time about Maric, 25, Cameron said he would bring needed experience for the Tigers' ruck division.
Cameron is buoyed by the Victorian's desire to shoulder the load next year at the stoppages.
"He's an aggressive bigman and we think he can have a physical presence for us which is really important," Cameron said.
"We need to give our younger ruckmen some real support."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-keen-to-talk-trade-deal-on-maric/story-e6frecjc-1226160655678
The Tigers are in discussions with Adelaide over ruckman Ivan Maric, who wants to cross to Tigerland, and want to retain their second round pick for a possible trade. The Crows are hoping to get either Richmond's first pick or the end of first round compensation choice the Tigers received for Richard Tambling (the compensation pick was originally for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast and was on-traded).
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/pies-give-up-first-draft-pick-for-clarke-20111006-1lbr3.html#ixzz1a1HxjDiw
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Do not swap pick 14 and do not swap the comp pick we received for Tambling or we have lost......afcukigngain
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Do not swap pick 14 and do not swap the comp pick we received for Tambling or we have lost......aeffigngain
or our 2nd rounder.
3rd rounder or PSD. Dont be a moron CC
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I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.
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I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.
For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.
The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.
Two thumbs up :thumbsup :thumbsup
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A guy on facebook calling himself Afl Trade Week & Rumours, wrote this about an hour ago.
Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.
Afl Trade Week & Rumours News going around that Ivan maric will definitely end up at Richmond.
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I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.
For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.
The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.
Two thumbs up :thumbsup :thumbsup
please explain. you lost me there with this Morris 14 thing
what do you mean with this mate
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The media don't have a clue. They are still linking every 3rd rate ruckmen to us.....
Can Richmond find a ruckman?
The Tigers are in desperate need of a frontline ruckman and there should be plenty on offer at the trade table. Hamish McIntosh seems surplus to needs at North Melbourne with Todd Goldstein and Drew Petrie playing so well in 2011, though the Tigers may be scared away because of McIntosh's injury history. Daniel Connors, who is rumoured to have requested a trade from Punt Road, could provide some much-needed attacking run out of the Roos' backline in return.
Alternatively, Adelaide's Ivan Maric is looking for a move after receiving limited opportunities since Sam Jacobs assumed the no.1 ruck duties. In return, the Tigers could look at offloading Ben Nason, who has struggled to break into the side this year and is looking to return home to South Australia.
Richmond might also seek to trade for either Tom Bellchambers (Essendon) or Shaun Hampson (Carlton). Both are third in line in the ruck queue at their respective clubs - clubs which could still use a plug-in defender like Luke McGuane or Will Thursfield and a second- or third-round draft pick.
http://www.bigpondsport.com/who-is-carltons-next-key-forward/tabid/91/newsid/78341/default.aspx
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The media don't have a clue. They are still linking every 3rd rate ruckmen to us.....
Bellchambers and Hampson just re-signed didn't they? Isn't there a rule that stops teams from trading someone that have just signed a new contract?
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nup. can be traded if the player agrees
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I think the GWS,14/Morris,15 deal carries more weight than 14 going to the Crows for Maric. That would be just pure madness.
For mine it's also symbolic and reads as a statement to the effwit South Australain clubs that if they dig there heals in and be unreasonable, we will use other avenues and methods to get what we want.
The Morris/pick 14/pick15/GWS smacks of 'plan B', yet it is brilliantly cunning by our club.
Two thumbs up :thumbsup :thumbsup
please explain. you lost me there with this Morris 14 thing
what do you mean with this mate
Richmond - Lose Pick 14
Richmond - Gain Pick 15 + Morris
GWS - Gain a Pick Upgrade from 15 to 14.
By gaining Morris through GWS pre-listing him it means Morris does not have to nominate for FS and Richmond don't have to commit a Draft Pick to him, so lets say for instance PA bid there second round pick (Pick 33?) we must commit our Second Round Pick to Morris.
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Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.
There would be some LBL from the LOLz if that came true
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Afl Trade Week & Rumours There is strong rumours coming out of S.A of a trade between Richmond and Adelaide it seems as though a Nason, Maric deal could be struck up. Nason has requested a trade back home to SA and Maric has been highly speculated to join the tiges.
There would be some LBL from the LOLz if that came true
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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"Maric will cross to Richmond for a draft selection"
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/adelaide-reaffirms-kurt-tippert-will-be-playing-for-crows-next-season/story-e6frg7mf-1226161609284
No mention of what draft pick that will be.
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"Maric will cross to Richmond for a draft selection"
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/adelaide-reaffirms-kurt-tippert-will-be-playing-for-crows-next-season/story-e6frg7mf-1226161609284
No mention of what draft pick that will be.
Pick 3rd round....or no deal.
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watching Adelaide vs Geelong to try and make an assessment on maric as an upgrade to graham
thoughts are as follows: moves a lot better, can get involved in passages of play without turning it over, an excellent kick, not any stronger, better leap, gets to more contests (over and above ruck work), tap work only on par with graham, ottens destroyed him
conclusion: definitely an upgrade, but will still leave us with with one of the weaker ruckmen in the competition. there's a reason Adelaide recruited Jacobs and subsequently made him their number 1 ruckman
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The media have NFI on the Maric to Richmond deal. And if we trade Nason for Maric the AFC will be burnt to the ground. Time to pack up shop for them :lol
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Crows ruckman Ivan Maric wants to join Richmond.
Initial talks between the Crows and Tigers have the clubs debating whether the trade should be for draft picks or players.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-to-play-hard-on-jack-gunston/story-fn69a32t-1226162520312
Three team trade: McGuane to Brisbane, Bris 3rd rounder to Adelaide, Maric to Richmond
http://twitter.com/#!/TradeWeekTiger
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Its becoming a joke now, haha ok whatever happens happens. let the games begin ;D
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Its becoming a joke now, haha ok whatever happens happens. let the games begin ;D
I'm with ya - care factor = 0
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McG for Maric? eff that. would rather Luke
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McG for Maric? eff that. would rather Luke
Really?
You must really rate Maric! :lol
I'd be happy with that deal. They are both fringe players at poor clubs, but Maric had stiffer competition in front of him (Jacobs). Magawnicles is a bloody liability with ball in hand.
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I hope it's smoke & mirrors and we get an class ruckman.
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Crows reject Richmond offer for Ivan Maric
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Seriously...tell em to stuff off, I don't care if they don't take it, like it or lump it, I think we went in too high to be honest.
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Crows reject Richmond offer for Ivan Maric
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Seriously...tell em to stuff off, I don't care if they don't take it, like it or lump it, I think we went in too high to be honest.
:lol He aint worth any pick in the top 50. RFC starting to behave like a charity again.
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The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.
HAHAHA! I hope we get him for free now in the PSD.
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Seriously what are they smoking? Pick 14 for Maric.
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Didn't catch any quotes from either club in that report
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IMO they are annoyed with what Craig did with that Tambling trade and are now trying to get one back at us.
Just my opinion but it certainly looks that way
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We should be just as annoyed with them over the Johnston trade.... :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Longer this deal doesn't get done the better, hope we get him for nothing in the PSD, Crows don't deserve any of our picks.
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Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
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Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
Griffin is a better ruckman than Maric why we didnt even approach him is really problematic IMHO.
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Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
Griffin is a better ruckman than Maric why we didnt even approach him is really problematic IMHO.
How do you know we didn't?? How do you know we weren't told he would rather deal with Port because he want to get back to SA??
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Griffin is deadset on moving back to Adelaide. His manager is slightly put off we didn't attempt to raise his contract value. :lol
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Why would we be interested in a player that seems to request a trade ever season :whistle
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Some clubs love flakes
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Griffen would be a far better option than Maric. Notwithstanding the apparent head back to SA tendency.
It's a worry that we dont seem to make the effort to even enquire about possibilities.
We appear to get a fixed initial idea and stick to it rigidly, even if a better option falls into our lap.
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Griffen would be a far better option than Maric. Notwithstanding the apparent head back to SA tendency.
It's a worry that we dont seem to make the effort to even enquire about possibilities.
We appear to get a fixed initial idea and stick to it rigidly, even if a better option falls into our lap.
FFS.....Just because it's not printed in the media doesn't mean we haven't inquired!!
How do you know we haven't made contact? How do you know we haven't been told "Don't Bother" because he only want's to go back to Adelaide or stay?
I Would be certain our recruiters don't sit there and go " Griffen wants to be traded but I can't be bothered calling his manager to see if he is interested in dealing with us"....... :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Read back on post 319 TtT.
It's an extrapolation from that post. It would "seem". :lol
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Read back on post 319 TtT.
It's an extrapolation from that post. It would "seem". :lol
lol....Well aint I Red faced now :wallywink :wallywink
And to think I have been trying to defend the club.... :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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If you read the interview of Blair Hartley on the clubs website, sounds to me he is well on top of players/clubs preferences and availabilities/openness to trades. If no offer was made it was not made because of the information they gathered.
I don't believe the club is as naive as what some are claiming, they have targeted specific players for a reason. Might have to do with the cost in terms of picks as well. Many reasons behind the scenes as to why we have gone for Maric and not another ruckman, not simply because 'Maric said he wants to come to Richmond, so lets just look at him and him only'.
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Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.
(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
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Just missing a laptop with a YouTube clip of JON going in that picture :banghead
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From twitter:
Adelaide apparently reject Richmond's offer of a 2nd round draft pick for Ivan Maric.
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apparently
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RICHMOND and Adelaide are at odds on the value of ruckman Ivan Maric.
The Crows have been offered Richmond's second-round draft pick at No.37 for Maric. They say this falls short of their wishes.
The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
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Tell them we'll take him in the PSD!!!!
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RICHMOND and Adelaide are at odds on the value of ruckman Ivan Maric.
The Crows have been offered Richmond's second-round draft pick at No.37 for Maric. They say this falls short of their wishes.
The Crows want Richmond's first-round draft pick at No.14. The Tigers say this is too costly for Maric.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-probables-possibles-and-downright-unlikely/story-fn69a32t-1226162688784
Off to the PSD then. If the Club caves into Adelaide demands with either pick 14 or our compo pick then Craig Cameron can go with it. We should have first offered pick 55 so then we can pretend to 'give in' with pick 37.
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Who's to say we didnt start by offering pick 55, they said pick 14 and then we offered pick 37 to which they rejected? :banghead
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They obviously want our compo pick! That's why they're asking for pick 14! tell them to get knicked Tiges!
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All Richmond has to do is stand firm on pick 37 until 1.55pm Sunday and if Adelaide still say no then tell them we'll see Maric in the PSD. Just because the Crows were stupid last year paying a compo pick for Tambling doesn't mean we have to return the stupidity favour.
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Tims AFL Trade Week Updates
"I'm expecting Adelaide to budge and accept pick 37 plus one of Nason/Connors for Maric later in the week. They won't get pick 14"
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tims-AFL-Trade-Week-Updates/178295015873
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Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.
(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
GOLD.
:lol
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Would rather see Graham and Browne for another year than give up a second rounder for Maric. Will lose massive amounts of faith in those running the club if we cave in to Adelaide.
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just give em the first rounder and be done with it.
Get the big croat on board , you know he will go all in.
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Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.
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we dont have pick 14 anyway we have pick 15 lol, we lost a spot due to the deal for morris with gws
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Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.
When you say a player and pick 37 for him it sounds like we are paying overs. But Nason is probably(IMO should) going to be delisted so it doesn't mean anything if his apart of the trade.
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Maric deal hits roadblock
By Luke Holmesby
4:43 PM Mon 10 Oct, 2011
IVAN Maric is no certainty to head to Richmond despite being linked to the club for months.
The Tigers have been in discussions with Adelaide about trading for the experienced ruckman but Crows list manager David Noble said there was no guarantee he would find his way to Punt Road.
"There may be a late player (in negotiations for Maric) but he has made a decision that that is where his best opportunity lies," Noble said on Monday.
"From our side of things, we've got to make sure we get the best deal for our footy club. If that allows those players to get to the clubs of their choice that is fine but if we have to get back to those players to say they need to consider another option well that is what we have to do."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124892/default.aspx
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When you say a player and pick 37 for him it sounds like we are paying overs. But Nason is probably(IMO should) going to be delisted so it doesn't mean anything if his apart of the trade.
^agreed...if we are giving up 37 plus someone we are not keen on keeping then we don't really lose out...Adel first round request on the other hand is most amusing...
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Pick 37 and Connors/Nason is too much for Maric.
Way too much. We should play hard hard ball - we hold all the aces.
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This bloke couldn't get a game this year.
Pass
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We should show some balls and go back to the table with a triple digit pick.
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Tell them to jam it!!
If we are giving a player(Nason or Connors) i know we want them gone anyway but i say give them a 3rd rounder and thats it.
We will land him in the PSD most likely anyway. How many players who have a nominated club dont end up there. We hold the upper hand and if it doesnt come off then stiff, get someone else.
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Crows list manager David Noble said only preliminary negotiations had been conducted: "We don't expect anything to happen until the next 24-48 hours."
And he said the players might have to go elsewhere, if rivals offered better deals.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/10/high-price-for-golden-o-meara/
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So they wanna play hardball... pfft
I was watching that geelong, adelaide game to study maric.. does anyone know what other games maric played this year?
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Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup
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This bloke couldn't get a game this year.
Pass
:thumbsup
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I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)
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Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup
Edwards is too much. No deal.
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I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)
Do you have something against the "Pure waters of Tasmania" :huh :huh
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Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup
Edwards is too much. No deal.
If Edwards is too much then Maric is not worth it.
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Some twisted logic taking place in this thread.
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I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)
Look man, you just cant rat on Tassie water like it's a throw away line.
And for the record, I resent you username. This website is small enough to accommodate my ego, let alone your upstart plagiarism.
I suggest you modify it, or again bugger the hell off >:(
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I know the Tigers plan
They will pick him up, do a pre season in Tassie and dip him in the Pure Waters of Tasmania , as they do in the Boags Draft ad.
Then he will turn into a powerfull ruckman ::) ::)
Look man, you just cant rat on Tassie water like it's a throw away line.
And for the record, I resent you username. This website is small enough to accommodate my ego, let alone your upstart plagiarism.
I suggest you modify it, or again bugger the hell off >:(
Great to see ButtThorn's back on the Heavy's again :cheers :cheers
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:lol
Theres only enough room for one returned poster.
To the death! :burgereater
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Its a duel to see who is nuttier than squirrel poo.
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Back to the topic...
The Tigers made little progress on the deal to lure Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric but remain confident they will get their man.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-lands-south-australian-star-steven-morris-in-deal-with-gws/story-fn69a32t-1226163182624)
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RICHMOND is on track to secure Adelaide's Ivan Maric, but the deal will take some time.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/st-kilda-says-brendon-goddard-nick-dal-santo-and-sam-gilbert-are-off-limits/story-fn69a32t-1226162786942
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Give then Edwards and be done with it.. :thumbsup
Edwards is too much. No deal.
If Edwards is too much then Maric is not worth it.
He's not then.
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Back to the topic...
The Tigers made little progress on the deal to lure Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric but remain confident they will get their man.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-lands-south-australian-star-steven-morris-in-deal-with-gws/story-fn69a32t-1226163182624)
I was just reading through the comments on that article:
this kid is a gun and should have been drafted 3 years ago under father son. He was suspended this year for a great 70's style hard man bump against North Adelaide, check it out Tigers. He is a 100+ game player for sure. http://video.adelaidenow.com.au/2000283800/Footy-Fix-Round-Eleven Looks like he has a lot of the old man in him.
just what is needed, more mongrel! :D I can't see the video in the link though. Stupid iPhones.
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Adelaide reportedly has asked for Richmond's first-round draft pick (No. 14) for ruckman Maric.
The Tigers are said to have offered their second-round draft pick (No. 37).
And the end result may be in the middle ground with Adelaide reclaiming the still unused compensation draft pick the Crows gained for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast last year and quickly traded to the Tigers for Richard Tambling.
But with ruckmen the prize of this trade period, Adelaide has, not surprisingly, fielded rival offers for Maric, as it also has done for Gunston.
"Ivan - and Jack - have made decisions on where they want to play but we will do the best deal for our football club," said Noble.
"If that is the club the player has chosen, fine. But there are other clubs interested in both of them, not just Hawthorn and Richmond.
"And we are clear on what we want from this trade period. It will be deals that serve the club for the next two years - not the seven days of the trade period."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-go-in-for-the-kill-for-crows-forward-kurt-tippett/story-e6frecoc-1226163446602
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Adelaide reportedly has asked for Richmond's first-round draft pick (No. 14) for ruckman Maric.
The Tigers are said to have offered their second-round draft pick (No. 37).
And the end result may be in the middle ground with Adelaide reclaiming the still unused compensation draft pick the Crows gained for losing Nathan Bock to Gold Coast last year and quickly traded to the Tigers for Richard Tambling.
Only an Adelaide paper would think our compo pick is "middle ground" ::)
Pick 37 is the offer. Up to the Crows to accept it. If they think they can convince Maric to go elsewhere for a higher pick then bye-bye as it's no skin off our nose. Otherwise we'll see at the PSD and Adelaide will end up with sweet stuff all just as Essendon did last year trying to pull a similar stunt over Houli.
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Broc McCauley has been delisted by the lions ahe looked good for the games he played in the ruck.
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Bit of research on Maric, his stats are solid in 2009 and 2010 when he was playing majority as #1 ruck, big drop off in form/opportunity this season.
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/I/Ivan_Maric.html
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Out of the Victorian clubs that would show any interest we have the best second round pick. They won't get a better offer for him to return home as he requested than our pick 37. Adelaide can eat a weener.
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Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.
(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
but helmut......
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Hey yarr dirty inbred hands off the tambling pick. :(
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Port apparently are happy to let Maric get to the Tigers.
Peter Rhode says Freo ruckman Jonathon Griffin is their number 1 target. Rhode says the club is very keen on getting a mature ruckman to support Matthew Lobbe.
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Maybe we should go for Griffin then ;D
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Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.
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Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.
Preference is for him to slip through to the PSD.
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Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.
(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
Still one clown there.
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Agree JVT. Thank eff the days of clowns running the circus is over.
(http://www.playerrater.com.au/webdata/image/Miller-Tigers-Draft.jpg)
Still one clown there.
Yep one clown
One jester
one sidekick
and a dried piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken.
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TradeWeekTiger twitter:
"@ClarkyHeraldSun Day 3: Maric to Richmond! should be done by noon"
No mention of what the trade will be though.
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He been reading big footy again? Geez Deep throat even has the journos strung along lol
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Adelaide did little work on trading ruckman Ivan Maric to Richmond for a draft pick on Tuesday.
"We've had a couple of other things going on," Noble said.
"We have not spoken to Richmond today."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/gunston-deal-almost-done/story-e6frecj3-1226164024007
It mentions further up in the article that Adelaide could stockpile compo picks gained in trades with ours being one of them. So obviously the Crows are still chasing our compo pick for Maric ::).
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We should not speak to them until after Thursday and stuff up any chance they are hoping of getting a pick in the GWS mini-draft. Pick 37 is easily a fair return. Why should we pay more for Maric than the Crows did for Jacobs last year in a similar compromised draft (and who they've rated better than Maric)!
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Adelaide only had to give up #33 for Jacobs and he's a far superior ruck than Maric. Pick #37 is too much.
Agree, watched the Crows- cats game and crows- port games on bigpond he is a decent ruckman
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just heard on trade radio or crock ....lol ...radio that we just offered those mulleted thong wearing inbreds the compo pick back and it wasn't enough for Maric. It that is true, i'm bout to arc up the blow torch and head down to punt road... IF we are going to be held to stuffing ransom, lets go for something first class.
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I've been saying all along, stuff them, tell Maric to nominate for the PSD, and we can pick him up for nix.
Adelaide are no longer being reasonable to deal with, lets just make him walk and keep all our picks.
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Maric's manager just said that Adelaide have asked for the compo pick but we are not prepared to offer it.
Once again the media eff up the story.
Two for flinching Owl ;D
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haha, im not flinching. Just saying its blow torch and pliers time if they give that pick up.
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If Barrett says it, it is usually wrong :yep :wallywink.
Our recruiting dept. should resign on masse if we were stupid enough to cough up our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year) for Maric.
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Am I right in thinking that the compo pick is probably on par with our first round this year? given the disparity in quality between this draft and the next? we have to keep hold of that compo! so important we keep adding youth even as we move up the ladder!
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"Lenton also manages Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, who is seeking a trade to Richmond.
He confirmed that the Crows wanted to regain the compensation pick they traded for Richard Tambling last year.
But the Tigers have baulked at that request, instead offering their pick 37 in this year's NAB AFL Draft.
Despite the disagreement, Lenton was confident that the two clubs would come to terms.
"We're hopeful that Adelaide might look at Richmond's offer and think, 'we can use that in another trade,'" he said.
"If that's the case, hopefully Ivan can go through sooner rather than later.""
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124990/default.aspx
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Am I right in thinking that the compo pick is probably on par with our first round this year? given the disparity in quality between this draft and the next? we have to keep hold of that compo! so important we keep adding youth even as we move up the ladder!
Spot on cranny. Actually when you take into account the fact that 17 year olds born b/w Jan-April are excluded in this draft (~1/3 of a normal draft's draftees), GWS having 9 of the first 14 picks and GWS last year being able to pre-list youngsters, I would argue the compo pick (approx. pick 20 in a normal draft) is probably a 'higher' pick than pick 15 in this compromised draft.
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our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year).
There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
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"Lenton also manages Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, who is seeking a trade to Richmond.
He confirmed that the Crows wanted to regain the compensation pick they traded for Richard Tambling last year.
But the Tigers have baulked at that request, instead offering their pick 37 in this year's NAB AFL Draft.
Despite the disagreement, Lenton was confident that the two clubs would come to terms.
"We're hopeful that Adelaide might look at Richmond's offer and think, 'we can use that in another trade,'" he said.
"If that's the case, hopefully Ivan can go through sooner rather than later.""
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124990/default.aspx
The manager is clearly on our side. We just need to sit tight and let the pressure build up on Adelaide that they may get nothing in return for Maric if they don't accept pick 37.
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In a perfect world where every club wins 4.5 games or more and no one else uses their pick, it would be Pick 19. So agreed, will probably fall around Pick 22-25 with other clubs nominating to use theirs in the stronger draft.
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our compo pick (which will be a top 20 pick next year).
There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
Just re-read the posts, I think they are saying in terms of strength of draft, our compo pick being used and giving us pick 22-25 would be the equivalent to a top 15 pick this draft. Plausible.
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There is no way in hell our compo pick will be a top 20 pick next year.
The compo pick is an end of first round pick. With a normal draft next year and 18 teams and taking into account priority picks next year (GWS probably won't win 4 games) then the compo pick will be around picks 20-24.
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The compo pick is an end of first round pick.
I know.
Add in clubs using their mid-first round compo picks, and the end of first round compo picks that are before ours...
No chance in hell that compo is a top 20.
Top 30.
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The compo pick is an end of first round pick.
I know.
Add in clubs using their mid-first round compo picks, and the end of first round compo picks that are before ours...
No chance in hell that compo is a top 20.
Top 30.
All depends when we and they use the compo picks. They can be used anytime up to 2015. We may wait until 2013 to use it. Craig Cameron said at the fan forum two months ago we haven't decided yet as the U16s may show the 2013 draft might show it'll be stronger than 2012. Also only Geelong and Melbourne have first round and mid-first round compo picks. So our compo will be a pick around 20-25 as JVT said. In any case the whole point is it's valuable and should in no circumstances be used on a fringe 3rd-in-line 25 y.o. ruckman like Maric who we could pick up in the PSD if need be.
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So you agree it wont be a top 20 pick next year. :thumbsup
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This whole convoluted load of bs compo pick is ...So, what picks are the ones you get to use, first round immediately after the normal first round pick of the originating team (as in the team first generated the compo pick)?
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The latest (and interesting statements at the end of the article):-
Tigers hold firm on Maric offer
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
.....Cameron confirmed interest from "a couple" of clubs about defender Luke McGuane and said a deal was likely towards the end of the trade period.
With the likely arrival of Maric, the club has also been asked about the availability of ruckman Angus Graham.
But Cameron said Graham was contracted and a required player, along with big man Andrew Browne, who has been offered a new contract.
Daniel Connors' name has been floated in trade talks but has attracted little interest.
Cameron said Daniel Jackson was close to signing a new contract and would definitely be at Punt Rd next season.
- Al Paton
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that was from his interview on trade week radio
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Pleasing we aren't going to cave into Adelaide's laughable demands for our first rounder or compo pick. Pick 37 and maybe Nason or a late pick (4th rounder) I'm guessing may be our maximum offer take it or leave it. That would be on par with the trade Adelaide did to get Jacobs.
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It looks like Port and Sydney are looking to swap seaby 4 armstrong;
SYDNEY Swans coach John Longmire has confirmed that Port Adelaide has shown interest in ruckman Mark Seaby
Speaking to afl.com.au's Trade Week Radio, Longmire also confirmed that the club's recruiting manager, Kinnear Beatson, had commenced discussions with Adelaide to secure 22 year-old Tony Armstrong.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125017/default.aspx
If this deal goes ahead it definately gives us the fall back of the PSD if the crows continuue to be unreasonable
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Pleasing we aren't going to cave into Adelaide's laughable demands for our first rounder or compo pick. Pick 37 and maybe Nason or a late pick (4th rounder) I'm guessing may be our maximum offer take it or leave it. That would be on par with the trade Adelaide did to get Jacobs.
i honestly feel we are paying overs giving up our 2nd round pick mt - not for bloody Ivvvarn!
hes not anywhere near jacobs level, who is younger and has more upside yet went for pick 33? - we're kidding ourselves arent we? :huh :huh
very very dissapointed with how this whole matter is being conducted - we've been mouthing off publicly abt our desperate need for a ruck for mnths - adelaide playing hardball is a consequence of that. negotiation not a strong point at punt rd
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It looks like Port and Sydney are looking to swap seaby 4 armstrong;
Adelaide will be pished if Port trade one of their players :lol
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derr, should have read that properly. I think that means it's time for bed.
:sleep
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The Crows, in contrast, have lost several players and are keen to trade for players rather than draft picks. That has meant Richmond and Sydney have had to review their offers for Ivan Maric and Tony Armstrong respectively.
The likelihood is that the Tigers will talk today about players that might be exchanged for Maric. To date, they have offered only their second pick (No. 37).
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-gun-for-saint-tommy-20111012-1ll88.html#ixzz1aZz0gr75
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
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If we asked him to go into ND with a $$ on his head, 1mn spread over 4 years, front loaded with 500k next year, no-one else would touch him until 37, guaranteed
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Heres the players taken at pick 37 over the last 10 or so years and there's been some good picks. This years draft is admittedly weaker (apparently) but it still serves as an ok starting point for what we could be possibly giving up to get Maric.
2010 - 37 Geelong Cats – George Horlin-Smith :huh
2009- 37 North Melbourne - Jamie Macmillan :huh
2008 - 37 Fremantle -- Zachary Clarke :thumbsup
2007 - 37 North Melbourne - Scott Thompson :banghead sort of
2006 - 37 north Melbourne - Todd Goldstein :thumbsup
2005 - 37 Collingwood - John Anthony :banghead
2004 - 37 West Coast - Mark Lecras :thumbsup
2003 - 37 Richmond - Tom Roach :banghead :banghead :banghead
2002 - 37 West Coast - Brent Staker :thumbsup(sort of)
2001 - 37 St.kilda - Leigh Montagna :thumbsup
2000 - 37 Collingwood - Guy Richards :banghead
I'd rate the pick as 1 in 2 chance of a quality player. In this compromised draft, it may be more like a 1 in 3 chance.
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Hers the 10 or so picks around pick 37 in the 2005, which is probably one of the weakest drafts in recent times. There's probably only 2 or maybe 3 ok players in this lot, so it provides a good comparison too.
2 32 Bernie Vince Woodville-West Torrens Adelaide
2 33 Samuel Gilbert Southport St Kilda
2 34 Matthew Spangher Eastern Ranges West Coast
2 35 Stephen Owen North Ballarat Rebels Geelong
3 36 Jake Edwards Western Jets Carlton
3 37 John Anthony Northern Knights Collingwood
3 38 Travis Tuck Dandenong Stingrays Hawthorn
3 39 Jay Neagle Gippsland Power Essendon
3 40 Travis Casserly Swan Districts Richmond
3 41 Rhan Hooper Mt Gravatt Brisbane Lions
3 42 Robert Warnock Sandringham Dragons Fremantle
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Also renowned as a weak draft was 2003. Adcock is probably the pick of the crop, after that is probably Dawson and Blake (hmmmm......) but the rest were rubbish.
2 32 Brayden Shaw Northern Knights Collingwood
2 33 Jed Adcock North Ballarat Rebels Brisbane Lions
3 34 Luke Peel Sandringham Dragons Port Adelaide
3 35 Brent Hall South Fremantle Football Club Collingwood
3 36 Chris Johnson East Fremantle Football Club Melbourne
3 37 Thomas Roach Oakleigh Chargers Richmond
3 38 Mark Blake Geelong Falcons Geelong
3 39 Robert Forster-Knight Essendon Port Adelaide
3 40 Eddie Sansbury Central District Bulldogs Kangaroos
3 41 Zac Dawson Calder Cannons Hawthorn
3 42 Matthew Spencer Swan Districts Football Club Geelong
So on all of this data alone, I reckon we are probably a 20 to 25% chance of landing a decent player in this years draft with pick 37. So trading for the serviceable Maric is probably a fair deal.
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
Adelaide and other clubs know they have a week and are trying to work out 'super-trades' and deals for the 17yo which needs to be finalised today. All other trades on the back burner.
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The likelihood is that the Tigers will talk today about players that might be exchanged for Maric.
Music to my ears
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Thank you
more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.
One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Source? If true, I can't fault the work of RFC so far this trade week! Sounds like a win-win trade, we get rid of a selfish footballer in Connors and keep our 2nd round pick. :rollin :gotigers
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Source? If true, I can't fault the work of RFC so far this trade week! Sounds like a win-win trade, we get rid of a selfish footballer in Connors and keep our 2nd round pick. :rollin :gotigers
Source is a good one, watch this space.........
There is another player of Adelaide's Radar but we won't let him go, nothing set in stone yet but looks like the Conners move will be the one ;)
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Good if true but I think Connors alone is enough to get Maric
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Careful, you're putting Jackstar out of a job as number one snoop lol
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Careful, you're putting Jackstar out of a job as number one snoop lol
Yes, I have really put my butt on the line with this one :juggle :juggle :juggle
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Good if true but I think Connors alone is enough to get Maric
If we get rid of Connors, who cares if we throw in a rubbish pick too. Would be a 4th rounder or later. :thumbsup
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Thank you
more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.
One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow
Well said
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Going to copy and paste a SMS from my old man. Not sure where he heard it, possibly whatever station he has on at work so unsure of source. I know nothing else but wondering if anyone has heard anything else to possibly elaborate on this.
Adelaide want pick 37 for Maric, tigs won't budge, they@are now negotiating with nth
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Could be confused with Addam Maric who is tipped to goto Nth
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.
You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.
Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.
Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.
You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.
Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.
Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
trade week ends on Monday.
:thumbsup
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Conners and a late pick for Maric.......you heard it hear first :shh
Thank you
more excited about losing Connors than gaining Maric.
One down 4 to go. Mcguane next cab off the rank. Nason, Jackson and Edwards to follow
Well said
Hear hear boys. :thumbsup
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.
You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.
Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.
Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
Your sounding like a chicken little mate, we will be fine. :police:
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.
You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.
Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.
Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
trade week ends on Monday.
:thumbsup
Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??
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trade week ends on Monday.
:thumbsup
Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??
Monday 2pm (I think)
:cheers
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stuff me, all week spent trying to get ..........um.......what..... :scream
all week !!! its been 3 days, give it a rest
5 days in a week still isn't there.....still no deal and its late Thursday there....one day left isn't there.
You will probably be one of the whingers next year when GC and GWS are above us on te ladder.
Ho much longer will it take to build this club, we need to get some established players in the team before Cotchin and Lids are 60.
Teams AFL windows are very small these days we need some experience in the team and that must come from other clubs during trade week.
grow up, you would be the only person who supposedly follows footy that doesnt know trade week ends MONDAY 17TH OCTOBER
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trade week ends on Monday.
:thumbsup
Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??
Monday 2pm (I think)
:cheers
Yep Monday 2pm is the deadline. Expect silly season to start at about 12pm on Monday.
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Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
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PSD f em
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yep stop wasting our time and being nice, adelaide r playing funny buggers and have sized us up as wood ducks(our own fault) fancy showing so much backbone about an unwanted hack ruckman who played 5 games this season - cease initiating dialogue, shut up shop and tell em no longer interested. Maric is a dud and no one will go for him in the psd so he's all ours.
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Teams AFL windows are very small these days
I'm sure that's how Brisbane, Sydney, Geelong, Hawthorn, St Kilda all perceive it WAT.
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yep stop wasting our time and being nice, adelaide r playing funny buggers and have sized us up as wood ducks(our own fault) fancy showing so much backbone about an unwanted hack ruckman who played 5 games this season - cease initiating dialogue, shut up shop and tell em no longer interested. Maric is a dud and no one will go for him in the psd so he's all ours.
:clapping
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trade week ends on Monday.
:thumbsup
Ah, cheers 65, I didn't realise that...so does it finish Moday afternoon or Sunday night??
Monday 2pm (I think)
:cheers
Thanks mate!
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Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
Based on what Craig Cameron said tonight our offer now is Connors for Maric as far as player-swapping. So adding your info Tas, I'm guessing we'll now accept Connors + 3rd rounder (55). I'd be satisfied with that as we keep our first two picks and hopefully replace the 3rd rounder trading out McGuane. We'll find out about Maric sometime tomorrow anyway.
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Yes it will be interesting..... As I said, Adelaide have thrown another name around (No sure who) but we have said no way! ;D I was also told there was no way we were offering our second round pick and you would have thought if we had Adelaide would have been all over it?? But then Cameron said we did so there you go......
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stuff adelaide, ND it is, front load it 900k first year 50 k ea of thext 3 ...we'll pick him with last selection :lol
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LMAO @ offering a 2nd round pick for a bloke that Beefcake would tear to pieces.
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Just a quick update regarding Conners for Maric.
Adelaide a still refusing to budge and are after our second round pick with Conners :o :o
Conners is desperate to get to Adelaide that is a lock it's just how he get's there that is seems to be the issue, looks like this saga will drag on well into Monday as Richmond a also refusing to budge from either a straight swap or our 3rd rounder not both........TBC
Based on what Craig Cameron said tonight our offer now is Connors for Maric as far as player-swapping. So adding your info Tas, I'm guessing we'll now accept Connors + 3rd rounder (55). I'd be satisfied with that as we keep our first two picks and hopefully replace the 3rd rounder trading out McGuane. We'll find out about Maric sometime tomorrow anyway.
^ would also be satisfied with that sort of deal...we do hold upper hand with PSD option and Adel have got so many people wanting out they are probably having a hard time keeping up with who's going where :)
...get this done and move onto other needs/wants/deficiencies or tell Adel to pee off....
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Tigers close to Maric deal
By AAP .
13 October 2011 07:37PM EST
RICHMOND are hopeful of finalising an AFL trade to land Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric on Friday.
The Tigers have long been eying the 200cm, 25-year-old, with the Crows keen to help Maric reach his preferred new club if they can strike the right deal.
Richmond's initial offer of their second round national draft pick, No.37 overall, has not satisfied Adelaide.
But Tigers general manager of football Craig Cameron said the Crows were open to a swap of players instead.
"They would consider a player, but we've asked them to tell us, if they do, who that player would be, basically," Cameron told Melbourne's 3AW radio on Thursday night.
"They know the players we've spoken about during trade week, but we've asked them to go away and come back and tell us exactly what they want."
Cameron said negotiations had been held up until Thursday by the Crows' involvement in several other discussions, particularly their desire to secure a pick in Monday's mini-draft.
But the Crows achieved that on Thursday, gaining the right to draft promising 17-year-old Brad Crouch.
"Adelaide's had a fair bit on their plate this week with all sorts of deals that they've been trying to get involved in and finally have got involved in," Cameron said.
"So I think we'll find in the next 24 hours hopefully we'll get a deal done or we'll be much closer."
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/13/tigers-close-to-maric-deal/
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http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_david-noble-brown-crouch-deal_103224
Adelaide's Noble said that he expected the Maric trade to be completed before the weekend...... [which presumably means tomorrow (Friday)].
He also mentions about wanting SA boys to come home..... [ Nason, Edwards...? ]
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personally Id prefer to lose connors or nason ahead of edwards...betchya edwards is the one they want ::)
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That makes sense.
when i was checking out maric i read things that indicated Adelaide were going to look more at home grown kids because the go home factor was stating to hurt them. They are real dirty on gunston.
It's just payback from when they started up anyway.
Nason's not worth a shovel full of poo so it could be edwards that gets the deal done?
Christmas could come early for some. :santa
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edwards would get a game ea week, no worries about that...tbh Id say stuff you adelaide and put the $ on his head and go into draft, no one else will touch a 3 game 25yo player with a loaded contract
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edwards ain't untouchable
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edwards would get a game ea week, no worries about that...tbh Id say stuff you adelaide and put the $ on his head and go into draft, no one else will touch a 3 game 25yo player with a loaded contract
edwards ain't untouchable
That's b/c of the state of our list and when people perceive Edwards as being better than what he really is and thus being one of our better players.
Edwards is not untouchable and in a better side he may go under the radar and be handy but in our side he is one of many runts and thus many want him gone due to the glut of small men and of course his inconsistency.
I would call it fair game Maric for Edwards and we'll chuck in Connors for a second round swap of picks.
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take out connors and i would not be surprised to see that happen
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They can have Edwards, give us a 2nd rounder and Maric and its a done deal.
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They can have Edwards, give us a 2nd rounder and Maric and its a done deal.
I would try talking them into taken Edwards and even just an upgrade from our 3rd for there 2nd.
I'd be happy with that.
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to me the only killer would be if Edwards doesnt want to go. He is still contracted?
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Very similar to the Collins-Grigg trade last year.
Adelaide will put forward some names, Edwards, Grimes, Connors
They'll take Connors when we tell them the other two are not on the table, just like Carlton did with Collo
:pray
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OH PLEASE let it be Edwards, PLEASE... :pray :pray :pray
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keep praying
Sure Edwards turns the ball over as much as Connors but he doesn't get injured, he arrives at pre-season training in good nick, works hard, doesn't get punched out whilst drunk and doesn't smash hotel toilet bowls with his face
Which is why he'll be on the top of Adelaide's list and why we wont let him go over a bloke like Connors
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keep praying
Sure Edwards turns the ball over as much as Connors but he doesn't get injured, he arrives at pre-season training in good nick, works hard, doesn't get punched out whilst drunk and doesn't smash hotel toilet bowls with his face
Which is why he'll be on the top of Adelaide's list and why we wont let him go over a bloke like Connors
Mate, they can have them both, I couldnt care less!!!!! But Edwards...... :lol, I would love to see him go!!!!!
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Funny isn't it? Adelaide, one of the big aggressive players and winners this trade period, after a bloke most Richmond supporters think is a dud...
But then they did also trade for Tambo
Matt Rendell is one weird cat
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Funny isn't it? Adelaide, one of the big aggressive players and winners this trade period, after a bloke most Richmond supporters think is a dud...
But then they did also trade for Tambo
Matt Rendell is one weird cat
Yeah man, they are out there...
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wtf are we gonna do with Maric.. Hes poo and hes too old. will prob retire at 29. :banghead waste of time.
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Richmond and Adelaide are close to a deal on Ivan Maric, with the Tigers prepared to sweeten their offer of pick 37 with a player for the Crows.
The Tigers are adamant they can get him through the pre-season draft, but if Adelaide was keen on one of Dan Connors or Luke McGuane then Richmond would agree to a pick-player combination.
The clubs met yesterday with Adelaide leaning towards McGuane to seal the deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-big-man-mitch-clark-in-line-for-3m-payday/story-fn69a32t-1226166306148
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Very Interesting. I know I am dreaming but it would be much better if we just swapped Connors and McGuane for Maric and didn't lose the draft pick.
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This is just effing silly, do I have to remind the effing club because of adelaide we dont have Jake King in round 1...... effin dogs
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All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman. ::)
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it's a conspiracy theory to keep the miserable bastards miserable
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All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman. ::)
its funny isnt it
I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth
Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies
No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish
Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.
The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage
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i rest my case!
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According to emma quayle , St kilda's tom lynch is part of the equation.
In other talks, Richmond was closer to securing Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric, with the Crows to receive former first-round draft pick Tom Lynch from St Kilda and the Saints to take the Tigers' pick 37.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/deal-or-no-deal-20111013-1ln8s.html#ixzz1afQQTowE
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i rest my case!
These are the miserable bastards that buy memberships year in year and keep the club alive. They also just contributed $3 million over the past 9 or 10 months to help the club improve. Those supporters have every right.
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i rest my case!
why?
im just saying how it is. We are running around like headless chickens for a ruckman no one except us rates, yet im sure if we did our research we could find a similar type in the VFL.
I see the Pies are upgrading a 208cms ruckman they find through the NSW scholarship. Cost to the Pies=ZERO
yet we run around for a Maric.
give me a spell
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:lol
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i rest my case!
why?
im just saying how it is. We are running around like headless chickens for a ruckman no one except us rates, yet im sure if we did our research we could find a similar type in the VFL.
I see the Pies are upgrading a 208cms ruckman they find through the NSW scholarship. Cost to the Pies=ZERO
yet we run around for a Maric.
give me a spell
Dan its the same every year mate. Every year they pull out the same lines to defend the club- sad thing is we need a miracle to win a flag in the next 5 years. Anyway let the apologists continue there blind support and faith, personally I think its very sad how the RFC treat the supporters who stuck by them for decades.
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Will laugh so hard when Maric is tearing it up for us :clapping Everyone commenting on his abilities based on his stats are in for a shock, he can play and will be super in comparison to the other 2 chums we have been letting wear our jumper.
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so agree with me then flags, they make these decisions just to annoy the whining section of the supporter base?
funny poo.
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All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman. ::)
its funny isnt it
I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth
Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies
No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish
Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.
The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage
lol.......Mate it's 10 times easier when the player nominates you as there preferred club as all of the above players have done. And why have they nominated Hawthorne? Because there premiership window is open and has been for a couple of seasons! You guy's done get it, NO BODY WANTS TO COME TO US!!!! and thats because we still have 2 to 5 years of rebuilding!
I'm sure if Dangerfield came out today and said he wants a trade to Richmond then we will get it done, but that aint going to happen.
Until then we just have to do our best upgrading picks and players where we can.
If and when we start making finals consistently, you watch the players lining up wanting to come to us, and with a bit of luck most of the will be high round Gold Coast and GWS players wanting to return home ;) ;)
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Done deal. Three way trade. Involves St. Kilda, Adelaide and Richmond.
Lynch to Adelaide
2nd rounder #37 to St Kilda
Maric to Richmond
I was hoping the Saints might have taken a player.
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LMAO at the club holding a gun to 10 Flogs head, demanding his membership and FTF money :lol Mate, get over it, move on......If you can't handle the roller coaster get the Eff off :wallywink :wallywink
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c'mon two headed tiger, you don't let a bit sensibility get in the way of a good whine.
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Done deal. Three way trade. Involves St. Kilda, Adelaide and Richmond.
Lynch to Adelaide
2nd rounder #37 to St Kilda
Maric to Richmond
I was hoping the Saints might have taken a player.
Done and dusted.
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Yes ::) I am happy to now be referred to as Deep Throat-From-Tas ::) ::)
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got the us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
X2
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
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When do the Russian jokes start...........? :lol
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Had he not stated Richmond as his club of choice and was purely an out of contract ruck, then there would have been a few clubs circling. Fact is before trade week he stated he wanted to come to Richmond, so other teams looked elsewhere.
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Had he not stated Richmond as his club of choice and was purely an out of contract ruck, then there would have been a few clubs circling. Fact is before trade week he stated he wanted to come to Richmond, so other teams looked elsewhere.
Like Melbourne with M.Clark? :whistle
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Like Melbourne with M.Clark? :whistle
Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....
It's a reasonable deal for us
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
the only way that can justify wasting a pick on Maric is if we have our PSD earmarked for another player.
I cant for the life of me understand why we didnt just say FO Adelaide and select him in the PSD. Front load year and next year more room under the salary cap for free agency.
The way they screwed us over the Jake King episode was a joke. We should've told them to FO just for the principal of the matter
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Slavaaaa! Welcome to Tigerland, Ivan :cheers
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woohoo premiership window is now open
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Like Melbourne with M.Clark? :whistle
Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Exactly. :cheers
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....
It's a reasonable deal for us
Very reasonable, as I said, wait till we see him play. Will be very very good for us and our midfield.
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Like Melbourne with M.Clark? :whistle
Let's see where that ends up....... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Thats not the point, point is just bc a player states he wants to go to a particular club doesnt necessarily mean hes off limits to other clubs, and the fact Melbourne are gunning for him shows clubs will go for a player if they think he fills a need.
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Well done Richmond, held firm all along, didn't give in to those stubborn effs and got us a Ruck man (finally).
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan Maric. :gotigers :clapping
we got ripped, pick 37 for a ruckman no-one wanted
Yeah, the equivalent of a pick 50 in a weak draft for a guy who will walk into the number 1 ruck position....
It's a reasonable deal for us
Very reasonable, as I said, wait till we see him play. Will be very very good for us and our midfield.
I've seen him play - the only time he looked any good was against us ;) prob why we're going for him clubs always remember players playing good games against them
anyway its done, hope im wrong abt him
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Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.
I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.
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Is this not going to happen officially until Monday now, and will that affect any potential trades we may have in the works?
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Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.
I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.
Correct
its either a very stupid move by the club or a very smart on.
IMO I think they have someone else they want
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Someone on another site has said we're looking at getting back a former player. Peterson maybe?
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Welcome to the Tigers Big Ivan, unfortunatly unless you step up I fear you may become the next whipping boy judging by the comments here already. "Go all in" and you will be right by me though.
I think we must have another target in the PSD to have paid a second round pick.
Correct
its either a very stupid move by the club or a very smart on.
IMO I think they have someone else they want
Don't think we will be picking up a former player, we don't have any good ones that have gone and are still able to play the game.
I agree, club must have their eyes on someone in the PSD, but I also think we should be able to trade away a few more players and possibly move a pick up the order and back into the 2nd round.
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this is Richmond. we could pick up a former player even if he's an absolute dud
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Is it a former player from Richmond or elsewhere?
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Richmond.
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our first round pick for Tambling, Schulz and Rodan ;D ;D ;D
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Brad Ottens
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Richo ;D
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Raines for McGuane
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Someone on another site has said we're looking at getting back a former player. Peterson maybe?
Casserley
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Nah he is banned remember.
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/CarlPetersonL.jpg)
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All this effort for a C grade at best Ruckman. ::)
its funny isnt it
I love how the hawks do business if you want the truth
Last year Gibson this year Gunstan and maybe Gillies
No wonder why good players want to go there and we get the left over rubbish
Cameron running around wasting pointless energy when he probably couldve got someone in the VFL who is just as good.
The only positive i can see in this trade week is if we can offload garbage
hawthorn are a more attractive prospect than us. Primarily because they are a finals team, with plenty of elite talent. Of course it is going to be easier for them to lure players across.
Cameron has performed admirably in the last couple of trade weeks. Cut him some slack.
The Maric deal is very reasonable. Finally we will have a ruckman with some sought of presence. I think a few might be pleasantly surprised by his output.
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The Tiger is turning! :clapping
Welcome to Tigerland Ivan! :thumbsup
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Will be good back up to Angus.
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Will be good back up to Angus.
Angus is gone you idiot.........Keep up :lol :lol :lol
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Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser said the threat of Maric walking to us in the PSD forced the Crows to cave in as they would've got zip and stopped them trading for someone else. He claimed it as "Richmond's old trick" :lol.
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Rucci said the Maric deal isn't officially done yet. Richmond willing to hang off to Monday before doing it.
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Will wait until deal done before commenting
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What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
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Deal has finally been officially submitted according to Trade Week Radio. They are just waiting for the specific details of the trade.
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Relton Roberts?
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Will be good back up to Angus.
Angus is gone you idiot.........Keep up :lol :lol :lol
C'mon Boony, you'd be a little slow too if you were in your 80s....
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Official: (same as wayne posted earlier)
Richmond: pick 37 -> Maric
Adelaide: Maric -> Tom Lynch
St Kilda: Tom Lynch -> pick 37
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I am so happy.
Fantastic deal tigers! :woohoo :woohoo
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)
:lol
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By by beef jerky. Stuffing dud :thumbsup
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)
:lol
:lol
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Video highlights of Ivan Maric:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)
:lol
:lol
:lol
i noticed all in gus has jumped a clear foot higher than Ivvarrrn
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He likes to get a bit of elevation before he slaps.
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Excellent. Another Calder Cannon with PREMIERSHIP experience at Tigerland.
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Video highlights of Ivan Maric:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
Telstra site are :chuck
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/MaricMArks_246.jpg)
:lol
:lol
:lol
I noticed all in gus has jumped a clear foot higher than Ivvarrrn
Na'h thats just Gus jumping 2 minutes too late as per usual ;D ;D
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Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.
Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick :wallywink.
What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good ;).
or Ivan - the big truck.
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Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.
Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick :wallywink.
What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good ;).
or Ivan - the big truck.
Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
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Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.
Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick :wallywink.
What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good ;).
or Ivan - the big truck.
Or Timbers as in Belanglo Forest lol
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Video highlights of Ivan Maric:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
Telstra site are :chuck
Here we goes people's:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA
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Renouf to port just got done for pick 33. We got pwn3d
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Video highlights of Ivan Maric:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/395918/default.aspx
He was winning hitouts to advantage in those highlights!! It's been a while since i've seen that at Tigerland.
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Renouf to port just got done for pick 33. We got pwn3d
Renouf is no better than Maric. Probably worse IMHO
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Oxx, bout time we got our Beefcake highlights up and running. We can make our guy look good too
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Moving to a city like Melbourne where its cool to date women who are not your Sisters, he might become a bit of a pants man and we could call him "Ivan ahumpalot" :P
I can imagine our recruiters walking into the city of churches and singing the song...."Going to the Chapel and were, Gonna get Maaaric" :P
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(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)
EEE-VAANN Flow.....
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Oxx, bout time we got our Beefcake highlights up and running. We can make our guy look good too
Uncle, you've got to know when your beat. Let beefy go, and jump upon the big brudet. :thumbsup
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Here we goes people's:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA
In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?
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Just wait til he gets here and Lade tells him not to look at the ball at centre bounces :bow We'll make a ruckman out of this guy yet :cheers
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Very happy with this trade. He has size and skill to make Gus look like...well Gus. The difference between Maric and Gus/Browne is his body work, work around the ground, marking and kicking. So a far bit. With a bit of extra responsibility he may actually develop his game further.
Pick 37 is a great get in this draft where picks after 20 are a lottery at best. Adelaide were prepared to play hardball with us, try and save face and reclaim their comp pick they threw away on Tambling but we stood strong. Over the last couple of years I have been particularly impressed by our recruitment department....and it's not over yet.
:gotigers
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No probs with this trade, we didn't buckle and give up the compo pick or our 1st rounder
What I found the most interesting in the whole thing though was the fact Adelaide wasn't interested in any of the players we have on the table for trade = McGuane, Connors, Thursfield
;D
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Here we goes people's:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA
In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?
He just doesn't belong here. Can't have that lol
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Welcome to Punt Rd Ivan.
Pick 37 while probably at the top of the limit was probably on par with what most out of contract ruckman cost on the trade market. Thankfully we didn't cave into the Crows wanting our compo pick :wallywink.
What's his nickname gonna be?
Haven't to be "Killer" wouldn't it? lol
Ivan the terrible if he's no good ;).
or Ivan - the big truck.
Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
Hopefully he employs that attitude into his playing ;D
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I'm quite looking forward to seeing a richmond ruckman with a bit of mongrel and passion in him.
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Here we goes people's:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebFHhsEYQA
In that footage it showed him tapping the ball out of the ruck and it went straight to a team mate. What's the story with that?
He just doesn't belong here. Can't have that lol
Lol how good does it look for a change folks ;) . Wait til he starts feeding it down chimp and aston's throats.
Just give him umber 25 now and send offal back to the King Island 3rds :thumbsup
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Haters are always gonna hate, but I'm happy with this and how RFC went about it. Good work fellas :cheers
This is just dreaming, but would be awesome if we traded into a second round pick somewhere else (McGuane?). Then it would be like we just got Maric and Morris for free.
Still, stoked ;D
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Forget about the taps to advantage
A ruckman who actually jumps at the centre bounce .... who would have thought ;D
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I hope we arent putting too much pressure on Big I?
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I hope we arent putting too much pressure on Big I?
Of course we are that's what tiger fans do :thumbsup
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Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206
:gotigers
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By from how people are rating this draft pick 37 wouldn't of been a promising for an AFL player so we not paying to much for Ivan.
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:yep
Picks in the mid 30's have historically been a 50% chance of obtaining a decent player in strong drafts, and a 20% chance in weaker drafts.
Happy we've got him and played the percentages :thumbsup
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Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206
:gotigers
:lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
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Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206
:gotigers
:lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
Obviously you're not referring to me lol :yep
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LMAO imagine a send off thread for McGuane & Jackson
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That is a moving thread on the Crows board. Wouldn't be many Tigers that wouldn't the same treatment.
After reading that I think we have made an excellet choice in ruckman. After the shenanigans like crashing Dimmas press conference it sounds like he will fit right in and probably instant best mates with Jack (apparently Ivan was Adelaide's lockeroom prankster). In an environment where he feels comfortable and welcome I'm sure will encourage Ivan to achieve his maximum potential. Love how he is going to add a bit of mongrel too... Kingy is just one man :p. Again, really happy with this. :cheers
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Impressive and tells me a lot more than what I knew about him 'Which was nothing'
LOFMA LMFAO everyday I'm shufflin at Richmond supporters saying they will look after him WTFWRU :rollin
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:lol @ CUB
Ripper send off thread over on the Adelaide arm of BF. Worth a look for those curious about the character of the man who now wears a tiger jumper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?s=4b92698292ce8ea481b7b33bf394bb86&t=882206
:gotigers
:lol
they sure make richmond supporters look like a bitter and twisted lot.
Obviously you're not referring to me lol :yep
actually no FNM.
but could you ever imagine a richmond player leaving and such good will shown on a forum?
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God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.
To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....
Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup
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God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.
To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....
Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup
surely WAT, there is just a little bit of desire in you to see a ruckman play for us that likes a physical contest?
Just a tiny wee liitle bit of "this could be ok" hidden away deep deeep down.
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What the eff are you saying about Beefcake then? The bloke goes all in. VLC loves a contest too
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Any hoot, I'm with you on the Maric front. This guy will be a cult figure and a great choice :thumbsup
Edit: removed quoting
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What the eff are you saying about Beefcake then? The bloke goes all in. VLC loves a contest too
Give it up uncle.
The offal cake is finito
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Give it time, he will be back.
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:burgereater
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God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.
To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....
Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup
surely WAT, there is just a little bit of desire in you to see a ruckman play for us that likes a physical contest?
Just a tiny wee liitle bit of "this could be ok" hidden away deep deeep down.
Hey look al, its great, but the two faced people here amaze me, I just hope the poor bugger plays as good as everyone here thinks he can or he will be strung up by these very same people...
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yes, yes he will :lol
I hope not, cmon Ivanitor! :bow
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thats possibly true WAT.
Most people will want him to do well though :gotigers
Like any new player at the club, i cant wait to see what they offer.
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Ivan Drago - "I will break you"
(http://5minutesforfighting.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/ivan_drago_justice.jpg)
(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)
EEE-VAANN Flow.....
:lol
So Maric's nickname will evolve to Pearl Jam.
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Nobody is saying he is the 'savior,' WAT. I think people just feel that he is decent value at 37.
Lighten up a bit.
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I think people are saying no one could be worse than Gus at centre-bounces and stoppages so Maric has to be an automatic upgrade lol.
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So Maric's nickname will evolve to Pearl Jam.
And then to 'Necklace'.
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(http://www.skyarts.co.uk/images/gallery/EDDIE_VEDDER_medium.jpg)
EEE-VAANN Flow.....
There is already a "heeaatthheeenn froooggg bought a road like butter frriieess" parody. Could make a new one, "Eeevaannn caaaaannn tap to Cotchin better than Angus diiiid."
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Oh look, does this make you all happy..
Welcome to the club Ivan, I really hope you do well and we look forward to seeing you play in the mighty Y&B...
Translation; Welcome to the club, I really hope you do well because if you don't you will be the whipping boy of the supporters until your confidence is shot to pieces, we can then keep bagging the crap out of you until you are delisted. We look forward to seeing you in the mighty Y&B and if you don't perform we will burn and bury you in it.... :lol
All in good fun... :thumbsup
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:lol
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God you lot are unreal, you have gone from saying that he is an ordinary player that we should not get to exceited about and couldn't care less if he comes or doesn't.
To carrying on like he will be the saviour...please....lets wait for him to play a game. stuff me, every player looks great in highlight reels....
Yeah yeah yeah, we have picked up a ruckman..of sorts, dont flog yourselves off just yet.. :gotigers :lol :thumbsup
Leaving aside the usual cheerleading I think they've done a pretty good job so far.
Well out from Trade Week we said we were looking for a ruckman and a big backman, remembering that Hardwick wanted a "big fish" comparable to Houli and Grigg.
It depends of course on how players perform but i have a reasonable confidence based on Hartley's work in 2010 that he's got the ruckman for what he thinks he's worth.
He seems to have picked his mark, made a fair approach to the manager a long way out and not overpaid in trade.
I would not be surprised if we were to get someone like Goldsack in trade or PSD (like 2010). If so, then they've been spot on with their word.
The problem of course is we don't seem to have had the same ability to trade OUT some players but again the Tambling trade was a gem so I'll wait till the end of Trade Week.
If we can't trade away players that are not good enough it really is our own fault for recruiting them in the first place.
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...happy with this deal...haven't given up too much in what is recognised as a weak-ish draft...Drago fits the right age for our group & should hopefully be hittin the time when the big guys start to develop (ala Jamaar etc - not saying he'll get as good but fingers crossed we might have our own big Ruski & not a big Lemon Ruski....)
Also agree that BH has done a good job in his time with us...we seem to be getting players that are improving our list and our depth without paying overs and slowly but surely weeding out the rabble that won't take us forward - baring in mind this will take a couple of seasons worth of trades/delists etc...
all-in-all, trade week is done & we've still got PSD/ND to go...so far so good....
and welcome to the Tigz Anna (of Ivan-avich fame...just my two bob on potential nicknames :) )
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Drago will break you all!! :clapping
After Round 1 everyone will be praising the RFC on picking this bloke up, will be a massive pick up because we were lacking a ruckman so bad, our midfield just doubled in efficiency :clapping
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If and when we start making finals consistently, you watch the players lining up wanting to come to us, and with a bit of luck most of the will be high round Gold Coast and GWS players wanting to return home ;) ;)
More truth and likelihood of that happening than most other predictions and forecasts in this thread.
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
Maric assumed the No. 1 ruck mantle with the Crows during 2009 and continued to impress with his development in the 2010 season, playing 21 games and being ranked seventh out of all the ruckmen in the competition for hit-outs to advantage, and also fourth at Adelaide for contested marks. He was a member of Adelaide’s leadership group, and proved his worth as a forward option. This year, however, the arrival of ruckman Sam Jacobs from Carlton, and the impact of the new interchange rules, resulted in Maric spending most of the season at SANFL level.
“We were keen to bolster our ruck stocks with a more experienced big man and believe Ivan really suits our needs,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Craig Cameron.
“He’s been in the system for a few years now and has the attributes we’re looking for in a ruckman. “He is highly competitive, aggressive, has a strong work ethic, and the flexibility to go forward and be a marking target.
“We think Ivan will really grasp this opportunity with us and become a valuable member of our playing group.”
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Ivan Maric fact file
Height: 200cm
Weight: 102kg
DOB: January 4, 1986
Debut: 2006, round six v Port Adelaide
Games: 77
Goals: 28
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125110/default.aspx
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Nice touch.
:thumbsup
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Nice touch.
:thumbsup
yeah i noticed the same footnote re GWS, Im glad they didnt take our advice and tell adelaide to get stuffed :lol
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Nice touch.
:thumbsup
Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently. From tiger-talk:
"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)
Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
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Thats the nature of the business Tim. If clubs can't handle it then sign up your players to contracts.
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Nice touch.
:thumbsup
Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently. From tiger-talk:
"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)
Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
So the dibber dobbers had another sook did they Tim? How can pick 37 be unders when the Crows picked up Jacobs for a similar pick last year who they rate higher than Maric ::).
We offered pick 37 on Monday and it was Adelaide ridiculously stating they wanted a first rounder that held up the trade being done for 5 days. If another club thinks it can con us at the trade table then we had every right to play the PSD card to gain some leverage.
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Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
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Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?
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Just going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?
Apparently! It's still his quad..... He tore it bad and can't get it right, will miss at least the first month of the pre season. BTW my sauce is a family member :wink.
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From the Herald-Sun's website:
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/10/14/1226166/827584-ivan-maric.jpg)
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; going back yo my mail yesterday regarding Conners, aparently The crows lost intrest big time after Conners failed a medical :o It will be interesting to see if anyone else touches him or will we be left with dead wood? If nothing else it has de valued him big time.....
So Connors is still not over his injury even after missing the majority of this season?
Apparently! It's still his quad..... He tore it bad and can't get it right, will miss at least the first month of the pre season. BTW my sauce is a family member :wink.
You would have quite a few family members........particularly back home wouldn't you...... ;D
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Maric deal done
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Oct, 2011
“We would like to acknowledge the cooperation and professionalism of the Adelaide and St Kilda football clubs, who have ensured the trade was completed.”
Nice touch.
:thumbsup
Not quite the way Tim Watson described it on SEN apparently. From tiger-talk:
"Tim Watson on SEN was suggesting that Richmond and Adelaide were at
each others throats about this trade - with Adelaide suggesting
Richmond were trying to get him for unders, then discussing letting
him walk into the PSD. Suggested Adelaide have been very, very
unhappy with Richmonds aggressive trading nature."
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/95925)
Anyone else hear Watson's comments?
So the dibber dobbers had another sook did they Tim? How can pick 37 be unders when the Crows picked up Jacobs for a similar pick last year who they rate higher than Maric ::).
We offered pick 37 on Monday and it was Adelaide ridiculously stating they wanted a first rounder that held up the trade being done for 5 days. If another club thinks it can con us at the trade table then we had every right to play the PSD card to gain some leverage.
So it seems the once again the tigers have set what they feel to be a fair and reasonable offer and have steadfastedly stuck to their guns. Willing to look at other options, but still not give away more than they deemed appropriate. same with houli and grigg. :thumbsup :gotigers
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Fair call Al, I wasn't a big advocate for Grigg, Houli or Miller but v happy with Houli, Grigg has been alright and Miller has done what the club set out for him to achieve.
I'm not a huge fan of Maric the footballer but hear great things about him as a clubman and his big body will get used unlike beefcake.
The club should be given some credit after last year so let's go Drago!
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I'm not a huge fan of Maric the footballer but hear great things about him as a clubman and his big body will get used unlike beefcake.
The club should be given some credit after last year so let's go Drago!
Agree with those sentiments Y&B. Reading the BF thread on Maric gave me a different perspective and even if he is a slight upgrade on Beefcake then we will have done ok. Never know our luck - he might even thrive!
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from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok
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from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok
From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it
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Dont think anyone really rated Jolly when he went to Sydney, hopefully Ivan comes on like Darren.
Wouldnt that be great...
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would be jolly good....had to be said..sorry
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Roger that !
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10 4 big buddy....
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Spiffing old chap, damn spiffing!
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from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok
From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it
:thumbsup all comes down to attitude and balls, gus seems to lack in both
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from what i have seen maric is way better than any ruck we have
he has size, can take a mark and can kick
i think he will be ok
From the highlights it isn't so much that he has size, it is he appears to know how to use it
:thumbsup all comes down to attitude and balls, gus seems to lack in both
A footy brain can help too :thumbsup
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I see him hopefully being in the Stafford mold.
Not the most athletic, but throws his weight around, cagey, can take a grab, kick a goal, and win a tap to advantage.
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i find it strange that bloke who was a good basket baller would not not be athletic?
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yeah me too. crows fans saying he doesn't have much of a leap either.
i guess when nic nat is the new black not many blokes are athletic or have a decent leap anymore LMAO
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they say he is better at boundry throw ins than center ball ups too?
it could be the case.
time will tell and we can make up our own mind.
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they say he is better at boundry throw ins than center ball ups too?
it could be the case.
time will tell and we can make up our own mind.
That's what I've heard
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I see him hopefully being in the Stafford mold.
Not the most athletic, but throws his weight around, cagey, can take a grab, kick a goal, and win a tap to advantage.
You can only hope.
I don't have much confidence in the ruck coaching at the club. I hope he has been well trained and is bullet proof from any of our ruck advice such as jumping too early and watching your opponent instead of the ball.
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Ruck stocks:
1. Maric
2. Derickx
3. Browne
4. Graham.
If you class vickery as a forward only post as back up who is also kpp
would be good to draft a 18 year old ruck as a rookie / late pick assuming graham and to a lesser extent browne don't kick on.
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Yep, a bloke who has had 4 kicks as a Richmond player is ahead of VLC and Beefcake..
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Yep, a bloke who has had 4 kicks as a Richmond player is ahead of VLC and Beefcake..
Yep, his stats are up there with Clever and Schulz..... ;D
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I don't even like Hughes and Schulz finished 5th in our B&F one year, so he can play. Be gone you poo stirrer
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I don't even like Hughes and Schulz finished 5th in our B&F one year, so he can play. Be gone you poo stirrer
:lol :lol :lol....I thought Cleve was the better of the two ;D
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bugger off man or I reveal your secrets.......snip!
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I hope Maric can take a contested mark. I don't mind if he is the mould of Stafford. He just needs to have a presence at ball ups.
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I hope Maric can take a contested mark. I don't mind if he is the mould of Stafford. He just needs to have a presence at ball ups.
If he can it will at least be an improvement on Gus.
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Apart from Maric's playing ability what other factors were behind us trading him?
Ivan is an individual with strong character, and was a member of the 7 man leadership group in Adelaide. He really impresses us with his approach to the game, particularly in a physical manner on the field. Also with his leadership off the field and his presence around the club we feel he is really going to add to the group. Hopefully he can make our boys walk taller in 2012.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/blair%20hartley%20web%20chat/tabid/16923/default.aspx
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Here's big Ivan in Y&B.... (courtesy of RFCO)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg644/scaled.php?tn=0&server=644&filename=dqf3.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/hwdqf3j
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Maric interview at Tigerland today...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/396846/default.aspx
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHuQIvlwedk
Maric said pretty much all the right things as a new recruit....
* Dimma and the way we played as team attracted him to Richmond. Attractive for him to watch. Had a chat with Dimma and that made it clear
* Privileged to play and work with the young mids we've got.
* Started footy late as a 16 year old. Drafted by Adelaide in 2004 and played 7 years there. Got a huge family so great to be back home and exciting for all involved.
* He wants to play aggressively and be respected for that. He said he plays his best footy and enjoy playing footy when he plays aggressively. He wants others to hate playing against him. He want to have an impact straight away, be vocal and drag others along being a leader on the track and in the gym to set new and high standards. Enjoys training and being a leader and mentoring kids. Also likes to learn.
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At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.
:clapping
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So quiet, reserved and polite on camera.... such a mongrel on the field. ;D
My favourite is his reply to leadership aspirations. They way he said he wants to just be himself seemed so genuine, not just a scripted response :thumbsup
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Looks like Cousin Balke.
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Looks like Cousin Balke.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin
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At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.
:clapping
Only jumper we had lying around in his size!
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At 0.29 seconds, that's a number 32 on his back.
:clapping
Only jumper we had lying around in his size!
Helbig must have grown 15cm taller and 15kg heavier since the end of the season :laugh:
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Ivan’s instant impact intent
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 18 Oct, 2011
Ivan Maric is aiming for an instant impact at Tigerland . . .
The 200cm, 102kg ruckman from Adelaide, who was snared by Richmond in a three-way deal during the 2011 AFL Trade Week, told ‘Roar Vision’ of his desire to hit the ground running at his new football home.
“I’m really excited about pre-season . . . I just want to come in and have an impact straight away and be pretty vocal, which I’m quite comfortable at doing,” he said.
“I want to be a leader on the track and drag others along and maybe set some new standards as well on the training track and in the weights room.
“I really enjoy training hard and being a leader on the track and mentoring young kids . . .”
Maric, who played 77 games in six seasons at Adelaide, expressed his enthusiasm for the physical side of the game, which he believes will hold him in good stead with the Tigers . . .
“When I play my best footy, and when I enjoy playing footy the most, is when I’m aggressive. That’s why I loved playing the game as a kid,” he said.
“I want to be aggressive - really aggressive - at the ball . . . I want people to hate playing against me because of that.”
The 25-year-old also revealed why he was so keen to join Richmond . . .
“It’s just the transformation with Damien Hardwick, and the effect he had on the playing group,” Maric said.
“Not only did he make them a lot more competitive and consistent, but just the way they celebrated and played as a team and for each other, was really attractive for me to watch.
“And, then, after meeting with Damien at the end of the year, it made everything really clear about what I wanted to do and who I wanted to play for.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125274/default.aspx
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Gus sets the standards in the weights room, Ivan. Beefcake is a monster of a man.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852FZ7zzC0U
Just watch at the 2:30 mark.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852FZ7zzC0U
Just watch at the 2:30 mark.
Nice! :clapping
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Maric is ready to rumble
The Age
October 19, 2011
RICHMOND ruck recruit Ivan Maric says he plans to be so aggressive for his new club that opponents will hate to face him.
The 25-year-old's aggression was a key attraction for the Tigers and coach Damien Hardwick, who last week gave up draft pick No. 37 for the Adelaide big man.
While Maric struggled for senior games with the Crows, stuck behind Sam Jacobs in the ruck pecking order, he is likely to instantly assume No. 1 ruckman status with the Tigers.
But Maric said it was more than just greater opportunity and the chance to return to his home state that prompted his desire to join Richmond. ''It was just the transformation with Damien Hardwick and the effect he had on the playing group,'' he said on Richmond's website.
''Not only did he make them a lot more competitive and consistent, but just the way they celebrated and played for the team and played for each other was really attractive for me.
''After meeting with Damien … it made everything clear about what I wanted to do.''
Maric said providing the aggression Richmond was after would come naturally for him. ''That's when I enjoy playing footy and that's why I loved playing the game as a kid,'' he said. ''I want to be aggressive, really aggressive at the ball, but I also want to be respected, and I want people to hate playing against me because of that.''
Maric said he felt ''privileged and honoured'' to be able to work with an emerging Richmond midfield, which boasts Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.
He was hoping to lift his new club, from the time he first hit the track for pre-season training. ''I just want to come in and have an impact straight away and … being a leader on the track,'' he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/maric-is-ready-to-rumble-20111018-1lyr1.html#ixzz1b965dWvL
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There is a hell of a lot of talk the talk going on here.....
Just shut it and walk the walk, this amount of talk always comes back on us.
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There is a hell of a lot of talk the talk going on here.....
Just shut it and walk the walk, this amount of talk always comes back on us.
In fairness it appears the kid did one interview. Many news outlets then reported on it. So I think it's more a little talking a hell of a lot of reporting.
Personally I am interested to hear what he has to say, so were the papers it seems.
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In fairness it appears the kid did one interview.
2 now given the radio interview on SEN this morning. ;D
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I couldn't find this on the web so I scanned it in......
Tiger keen to earn his stripes
By Jon Ralph
Sunday Times
20 Nov 2011, Page 74
NEW Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric knows exactly what he is not.
He cannot jump like Nic Naitanui or run like Dean Cox.
And he is not the mega-star recruit that will instantly guarantee the Tigers finals success.
But what he does have might just be enough for Richmond next year.
The former Adelaide ruckman has promised to bring a new level of aggression to a game that already features silky tap-work and repeat second efforts.
If he can deliver on that promise, a trade which saw the Tigers give up only pick 37 might just work out perfectly.
``I'm never going to move like Cox or Naitanui,'' said Maric, a former Calder Cannon just entering his peak after seven years at Adelaide.
``I really admire Brad Ottens. He's so strong and a good ruckman always follows up on the ground as well. He's someone I look up to. Even Darren Jolly as well they're both able to go forward. I watch them closely and I see myself being able to do that as well.''
If Richmond supporters were forgiven an ``Ivan who?'' moment when his name came up in discussions, Maric has a solid track record.
He played 57 games in three seasons entering this year and combined strong contested marking with solid centre-square work.
Then Sam Jacobs arrived from Carlton. Quickly Maric knew he needed to find another home.
``It was pretty early in the year. I was having conversations with Neil Craig and they were saying that they were giving me the message they wanted me at the club but we have to do what's best for you, and if that's exploring other options we want you to do that,'' Maric said.
``Initially it was pretty hard for me to take because I enjoyed my time there and wanted to give a fair bit back to Adelaide, but you have to be proactive in your career, and I've done that whether it's being out of form or this situation, and I was really keen to get here.''
His parents both moved from Croatia to Melbourne before meeting and marrying, with Maric growing up loving the Tigers.
But he also loved the way they celebrated as a team and played team-first football under coach Damien Hardwick.
Quickly a plan was hatched to get him to Richmond.
``I feel like I missed out on a season at the highest level last year,'' Maric said.
``I'm feeling really good and my body is feeling strong. I feel like I can get even stronger and I want to be tough to play against.
``This year was really good because although I didn't play a lot of AFL, I spent a lot more time playing forward in the SANFL and even in the last three games at Adelaide I played forward. It was great for my development and that's where I see myself in the future.''
The prospect of rucking to the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin is particularly mouth-watering.
``Dusty is sensational at stoppages and even when he goes forward he kicks goals. Trent Cotchin seems like a really good leader and is stepping up, and he's really hard at it.''
``You love to have those guys around you. I just want to attack the ball with the same attitude they do, and earn their respect and trust, as well as my other teammates as well.''
New 22-year-old teammate Steven Morris cannot wait to join Maric, knowing others have blazed the same trail as him in recent years.
``Certainly guys like Nick Duigan and Paul Puopolo last year give me some confidence that if you work hard and stick at it the results can come,'' Morris said.
``I played against Ivan a few times (in the SANFL) last year and we're both really excited about coming to Punt Road and hopefully getting a game with the Tigers next year.''
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Didn't say go all in once. :wallywink
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Ivan Maric shaping up as Richmond's hard man
by: Jon Ralph
From: Sunday Herald Sun
November 27, 2011
NEW Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric knows exactly what he is not.
He cannot jump like Nic Naitanui or run like Dean Cox.
And he is not the mega-star recruit that will instantly guarantee the Tigers finals success.
But what he does have could be just what the Tigers need next year.
The former Adelaide ruckman promises to bring a new level of aggression to a game that already features silky tap work and back-up efforts.
If he can deliver on that, a trade in which Richmond give up only pick 37 could just work out perfectly.
"I am never going to move like Cox or Naitanui," conceded Maric, a former Calder Cannon just entering his peak after seven years at Adelaide.
He added: "I really admire Brad Ottens. He's so strong, and a good ruckman always follows up on the ground as well. He's someone I look up to, (and) even Darren Jolly - they are both able to go forward. I watch them closely and I see myself being able to do that as well."
If Richmond supporters were forgiven an "Ivan who?" moment when his name came up in discussions, Maric has a solid track record.
He played 57 games in three seasons entering this year, combining strong, contested marking with solid centre-square work.
Then Sam Jacobs arrived at Adelaide from Carlton.
Quickly, Maric knew he needed to find new home.
"It was pretty early in the year. I was having conversations with Neil Craig and they were saying they were giving me the message they wanted me at the club, but we have to do what's best for you, and if that's exploring other options, we want you to do that," Maric said.
"Initially it was pretty hard for me to take, because I enjoyed my time there and wanted to give a fair bit back to Adelaide, but you have to be proactive in your career."
Maric grew up loving the Tigers. He also loved the way they celebrated as a team, and played team-first football, especially under coach Damien Hardwick.
So a plan was hatched to get him to Richmond.
"I'm feeling really good, my body's feeling strong. I feel like I can get even stronger and I want to be tough to play against," he said.
"This year was really good, because although I didn't play a lot of AFL, I spent a lot more time playing forward in the SANFL, and even in the last three games at Adelaide I played forward. It was great for my development and that's where I see myself in the future."
The prospect of rucking to the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin is particularly mouth-watering.
"Dusty is sensational at stoppages, and even when he goes forward, he kicks goals," Maric said. "Trent Cotchin seems a really good leader and is stepping up, and he's really hard at it."
"You love to have those guys around you. I just want to attack the ball with the same attitude they do, and earn their respect and trust, as well as my other teammates, too."
Steven Morris, 22, cannot wait to join Maric.
"I played against Ivan a few times (in the SANFL) last year and we are both really excited about coming to Punt Rd. They are on the up, so it's an exciting time to join the club," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ivan-maric-shaping-up-as-richmonds-hard-man/story-fn4hg9de-1226206979448
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Good work by Ralphy to use the same story 2 weeks in a row ::)
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Yeah, thought I'd read that one already! :huh
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that bastard wasted moments of my life making me reread that ... I will never get them back, or these angry moments responding..
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Good work by Ralphy to use the same story 2 weeks in a row ::)
he ate all his crayons so couldn't write anything new!
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on the plus side, big Anna Ivan-a-vich is saying all the right things (whether that translates into DOING all the right things is another story...) they do have big wraps on him at the club for his training/work ethic which can only be a positive on the young group & at least it might inspire some competitiveness (both on field and for spots) amongst our rucks....
would rather he could run and jump like cox/nick nat but heck, still looks/sounds like an upgrade on our recent ruck stocks...and is still only 25
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Maric is telling it how it is, I'm sure we will end up getting what he promises. Unlike some other Tiger players who have promised the world and delivered :help
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he's as tough as nails this bloke and at the right age to really take that next step in the right environment to be a top ruckman, still pinching myself we got him
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You're still pinching yourself about us recruiting Ben Nason.
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thankfully Ben Nason has been pinched out
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It is becoming more and more evident that Maric must start as second option behind Gus.
Gus enjoys cheese toasties, by the way.
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I had an encounter with the big Gustav and the word is he has 2 years to go on his contract.
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Big Ivan confirmed the No.1 ruck spot last night. Maric had the better of North's rucks. I would have Derickx No.2 in line now. More versatile and reliable than Gus. Poor Gus once again showed he isn't the answer even though he got a few hitouts last night. Half the time he's not looking at the ball and just crashes into his opponent.
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Big Ivan confirmed the No.1 ruck spot last night. Maric had the better of North's rucks. I would have Derickx No.2 in line now. More versatile and reliable than Gus. Poor Gus once again showed he isn't the answer even though he got a few hitouts last night. Half the time he's not looking at the ball and just crashes into his opponent.
Rot. Better of the North rucks? Their rucks combined got more of it than Maric (who got the same amount of ball and hitouts as Gus). Meanwhile, Graham dominated the hitouts against his man and held him to one disposal. Not to mention several crucial spoils and one effort to split a pack at the end of the game to assure us of victory. Maric confirming #1 spot with 5 touches :lol high standards at Richmond
Dare I say we wouldn't have beaten the Hawks with any other ruck. The Bake needs a few more games to get herself ready for the real thing. She'll start behind Maric but don't rule her out.
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Maric was clearly the best ruckman playing for us out of the two games. Around the ground was where he showed his class and while he didn't get the pill a huge amount, he has pace, agility, game sense and smarts that would have embarrassed Gus. Gus made too many mistakes and looked all at sea around the ground last night. He still has time but we made the right decision getting Maric, undoubtably.
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(http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120208/640/epic_haters_gonna_hate_memes_640_11.jpg)
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Why did the black amputee cross the road?
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To get a cheese toastie
Now move on ppl, gus was crap and maric wasn't much better
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Gus... A body like a man but plays like a girl.
I won't be convinced on any of our rucks until I see a kruzer like like ruckman dominating around the ground. Even Browne can tap the ball. If that's all your good for then your useless IMO.
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Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.
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Not sure I ever saw Gus move any faster than a brisk stroll.
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Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.
He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.
I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time :bow
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Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.
He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.
I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time :bow
We all know ou get your mail direct from Dooks, and we all know how god his mail is........ :whistle :whistle
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Sorry Uncle, i think your cute but Ivan was noticibly better than Gus last night. The stats are not an accurate portrayal. Ivan's presence and effort around the stoppages is the key difference. Gus battled hard, but he was poo again last night. He had countless opportunities to take grabs, particularly in the second half, but he fluffed them all in typically hilarious fashion.
He messed them up because he was knackered. She will be better for the run. Mail is Beef will need another game or two before he gets conditioned to make those efforts without getting stuffed. Took a beauty of a mark earlier on.
I like a quote of yours "Gus battled hard". That's a good sign. Don't write her off after 40 minutes. There's time :bow
We all know ou get your mail direct from Dooks, and we all know how god his mail is........ :whistle :whistle
Your spelling needs to improve. My mail is from a good source.
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my 6yo daughter is tougher than gus, that weak bastard should dominate and impose his presence on games, but is plays scared , plays soft, and is an embarrassment
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Anyone who thinks Gus should be paid to play any sort of physical activity takes it up the .
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Ivan's mullet rucks better than Ancus
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Do you have any insight into what Beefcake was like as a junior? Don't you have a role with a TAC Cup club :lol
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Built like Tarzan plays like Jane.
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It is disappointing because he looks like a ruck man, he moves like one but he plays like a _________
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Ivan's mullet rucks better than Ancus
:lol
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Do you have any insight into what Beefcake was like as a junior? Don't you have a role with a TAC Cup club :lol
Your very protective of Angus.. Do you have a role with Angus in any way?
No need for that...
Who wants to see anyone in the yellow and black jumper fail??
I sure as hell don't!
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Gee whiz
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Some pleasing commentary about the mulleted Croat from some crows fans in this BF thread:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911617&page=3
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As most know I am not a Gus fan but I thought his game on Firday night was OK, probably the best I've seen from him in a long long time
Why?
Every ruck contest he watched the ball and not the man. That is a significant improvement
While I agree Maric is clearly a better ruckman having Maric around is going to be good for Gus because he isn't going to be gifted games anymore and that's got to be a good thing
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Reckon people who are bagging Gus need to watch the game again. Keep your eyes on the big bastard and you'll see that he worked hard up and down the ground. Like i have already said, split some packs and made a coupld of good spoils down back. I wouldn't say he played a good game but he was better than the bloke he rucked against.
Gus will improve this season.
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Reckon people who are bagging Gus need to watch the game again. Keep your eyes on the big bastard and you'll see that he worked hard up and down the ground. Like i have already said, split some packs and made a coupld of good spoils down back. I wouldn't say he played a good game but he was better than the bloke he rucked against.
Gus will improve this season.
The problem is he did this for 5 minutes of each half then ran out of puff ::) ::)
I don't think we will have to worry to much about Gus this season, Maric wont give him a chance to break into the side ;) :lol :lol
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He won us the game by splitting a pack in the last minute, guy. How's your jelly
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Gus was the key when the game was to be won, he threw his weight around and split several packs open.
As for his blind turn. :bow
Maric was ordinary at best. Incident when the ball was kicked to him towards the end of the game on the wing and he was scared and lacked the mobility to compete.
He is ahead of himself, demanding to be called Eeee-vaaan, and was noticeably abusive towards his team mates.
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Talent on tap
Inside Football
Feb 22, 2012
The Tigers hope Ivan Maric can restore them as a rucking powerhouse, writes NATHAN TEMPLETON.
FOR a quarter of a century, dating back to the days of Mark "the General" Lee, Richmond has searched without luck for a quality long-term ruckman.
Somewhat ironically, the Tigers have now turned to Ivan Maric, in many ways a throwback to the 1980s, to break the drought.
When the former Adelaide Crow made his debut in yellow and black on Friday night, Twitter feeds lit up with fans commenting on (and mostly praising) Maric's "mullet" hairstyle. And the 200cm, 100kg giant also aims to play like an old-fashioned follower.
"I love playing aggressive," Maric said.
"They want me to be physical and block for the smaller guys and I love doing that."
That will be music to the ears of Richmond's supporters, and its star-studded young midfield.
"Doing all those sacrificial acts helps to build a strong bond with all the midfielders. I'm happy for them get all the possessions," he said.
"I've got some quality players to hit the ball to, it's pretty exciting in there with guys like Cotchin, Martin, Foley and Tuck."
After playing only six AFL matches in 2011, Maric became disillusioned with the Crows, and Richmond came to the party, giving up draft pick 37 to bring the Victorian home.
"It was a hard decision, but the way the season panned out made it easier," he said.
"Geelong won the premiership with two ruckmen but Neil Craig didn't believe in playing too many talls. That's fine, that was his philosophy, but it was hard because I thought there was room for two ruckmen.
"I just tried to look at the positives. I played a lot up forward with (SANFL club) Port Magpies, and I improved that part of my game and learnt a lot about myself."
Angus Graham had been the first-choice ruckman at Punt Road for the past two seasons, with support from developing 200cm forward Ty Vickery.
The club also had promising youngsters Andrew Browne, Tom Derickx and Ben Griffiths in the wings, but decided it needed some heavy-duty reinforcements.
"Richmond got in touch with my manager halfway through the year," Maric said.
"I was keen to come back to Melbourne and I could see how much the club changed when (coach Damien) Hardwick took over, you could notice it even from the outside.
"I wanted to come to a club where I could make an impact. I want to set high standards and be a mentor. I said as soon as I arrived I want to earn everything, don't hand it to me."
No-one knows better the importance of a strong big-man combination than Richmond's ruck coach Brendon Lade, who formed a formidable partnership with former Port captain Matthew Primus, and later teamed with Dean Brogan to help the Power to the 2004 premiership.
Lade believes Maric can provide much-needed grunt for the Tigers.
"The big thing about Ivan is his competitiveness, he just hates to lose," Lade said.
"He wasn't really getting a game with the Crows and we thought that was a bit of a waste. We think he can play an important role for us."
Lade says Maric's arrival has also had a positive effect on Graham, and the club finally has some competition for ruck spots.
"He (Graham) needed that second bloke to push him, they've been fighting it out at training," Lade said.
"I think Angus has all the traits to be one of the great ruckmen in the AFL, he's a good size and he runs really well so I'm looking forward to seeing his development.
"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regard."
But 21-year-old Vickery is the man who looms as the X-factor in the Tigers' set-up.
"He's got a lot of upside but we're waiting for him to grow into his body so he'll probably stay up forward, but in the next few years he will become a really crucial player," Lade said.
Maric has also been impressed with Vickery.
"I can't wait to see how good he's going to get," Maric said.
"For a guy that tall, the way he moves is really exciting. He is really dangerous up forward and if he can play ruck and forward he's going to be really great for the club."
Maric is hoping to follow Vickery's lead and add attacking skills to his repertoire.
"I want to be someone who takes a lot of marks. I want to be remembered for that at the end of my career," Maric said.
"I feel really comfortable playing up forward."
The son of Croatian parents, Maric grew up a basketball fanatic in the Melbourne suburb Keilor, and didn't start playing Australian rules until he was 16.
Now the 26-year-old believes he's in his prime.
"Now is the time for me to become a consistent AFL player," he said.
"I've had enough time and if I can't do that now, if I'm not playing well enough then I just won't get a game. It's a bit of pressure but I'm embracing it. It's nothing I can't do, I've got belief in myself."
Tiger fans will be happy to learn he also has belief in the "mullet", at least for now.
"While I can still grow it, I'll just enjoy it, I think."
http://www.insidefootballonline.com/feature.html
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That is the best mullet going around, hope he grows it to his a-r-s-e.
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"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regar.
Yeh right.... :shh
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Dude! Are you O.K :o :o :o :o :lol
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"I've got some quality players to hit the ball to, it's pretty exciting in there with guys like Cotchin, Martin, Foley and Tuck."
No-way they will all be playing at Coburg! :wallywink
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That is the best mullet going around, hope he grows it to his a-r-s-e.
He's got a bit of a ways to catch up to the best Mullet I have ever seen in Australian sport, Kerry Hemsley from the Balmain Tigers Rugby League club.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/16h18cy.jpg)
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Snip!
Stick to the topic ppl!
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My post was on topic. This is an outrage. :banghead
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If Ivan is a success in 2012 will the cheer squad wack on mullet wigs?
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My post was on topic. This is an outrage. :banghead
A rare post indeed.
:thumbsup
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My post was on topic. This is an outrage. :banghead
A rare post indeed.
:thumbsup
Who are you to judge? you are the off-topic queen.
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My post was on topic. This is an outrage. :banghead
A rare post indeed.
:thumbsup
Who are you to judge? you are the off-topic queen.
Not judging at all.
And have a look at my posts before you make spurious claims.
:cheers
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And have a look at my posts before you make spurious claims.
:cheers
I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.
:cheers
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And have a look your own posts before you make spurious claims.
:cheers
I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.
:cheers
:lol
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I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.
:cheers
Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.
This is a forum FFS.
:cheers
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I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.
:cheers
Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.
This is a forum FFS.
:cheers
I give a stuff and the 'This is a forum FFS' line is blatant plagarism.
Get your own wit.
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I do, they're mostly petty and uninteresting.
:cheers
Seriously though who gives a stuff what you think.
This is a forum FFS.
:cheers
I give a stuff and the 'This is a forum FFS' line is blatant plagarism.
Get your own wit.
:bow (I don't think)
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I am loving the Big Mullet he is really giving good presence around the throw ins and bounces Gus ,Browne and Derrikx should be chewing at the bit to get back in and when they do either through big Mullets eventual injury or suspension i feel they will kill em Maric will be a blessing in disguise . This is what i have been waiting for he was the perfect pick up
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is this another master stroke by BH
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Coach, whats going on brother, the big M seems to be getting the cheers and beers while the big G is sweeping up the possum poo back at Tigerland......
Mate can the big G get up, whats happening????
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Go All In seems to have a serious problem now and its called Ivan Maric. Maric is a very competitive ruckman.
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Maric is a very competitive ruckman.
^ think that's 50% of his value right there...at least he seems to enjoy competing which is a big improvement on some of our recent rucks...the fact he also wins some hitouts AND hits them to advantage is real bonus :)
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Was the biggest difference between the teams today. Gave our midfielders first use of the ball and was the reason we won the clearances. In the first half he was everywhere. Will be the biggest difference this year. Absolute masterstroke getting the Mullet to the club!
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"We also have Andrew Browne, who we hold in high regar.
Yeh right.... :shh
browne is young.
how good was maric at same stage? give the lad time
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Coach, whats going on brother, the big M seems to be getting the cheers and beers while the big G is sweeping up the possum poo back at Tigerland......
Mate can the big G get up, whats happening????
dunno. haven't seen big Goose since the first Nab Cup games. gone AWOL
Maric very good today. Real test comes against the Kruz
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Beefcake has been unceremoniously replaced by a cabbage roll.
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Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet
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Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet
You worship the mullet :bow :bow
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I don't mind the mullet - at least it can ruck
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Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet
You worship the mullet :bow :bow
oh no :jump
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Cabbage roll with a disgusting mullet
You worship the mullet :bow :bow
oh no :jump
Bang! Somthings gone wrong??????
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Mullet, crew cut, bald, part in the middle.
Could not care less if the kid continues to play the way he does. :thumbsup
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15 disposals (11 contested) at 93% efficiency, 5 marks, 22 hitouts and 5 clearances. You can't ask much more in a day's work from a ruckman. We just need TV, Derickx (when he plays) and others to give big Ivan a chop out now and then in the ruck so Maric's workload isn't overloaded over a long season and he doesn't break down touchwood.
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It's very early but I'm liking what I'm seeing of ivaarn. Impact!
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Maric = Demi-god
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Even the big Davey is on the Maric train now! Chu beauty!
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Early days -yes.....but its obvious for all to see that Ivan makes Richmond a significantly better team.
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Early days -yes.....but its obvious for all to see that Ivan makes Richmond a significantly better team.
Agree Mat, makes it bleedingly obvious how much we were missing out on by relying on Graham. The mids must be pinching themselves to actually have a fighting chance of getting first use out of the ruck. And who would have thought that a ruckman can actually get involved in the game around the ground? Ground-breaking stuff after our last couple of seasons! ::)
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i did see one silly part from the big man he was the man on the mark from a kick out i couldn't believe it shouldn't he be 60 metres from goal ?
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If he stays fit for the season we can move up two places on the ladder just from him alone.
That's how much we've missed a half decent ruck!
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If he stays fit for the season we can move up two places on the ladder just from him alone.
That's how much we've missed a half decent ruck!
Not only that but with the level of class we have in our midfield compared to the other middle of the road sides it makes us that much more dangerous and with Ivan competing the way he has been it makes our mids even more dangerous and able to get first use of the ball. Case in point yesterday. :thumbsup
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No frills Maric has Tigers in the hunt
Greg Denham
From: The Australian March 13, 2012 12:00AM
HE won't win a best-and-fairest award and would be at long odds to make All Australian, but new Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his mark at Punt Road.
And while Maric will probably never be mentioned in the same breath as teammates Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin or Jack Riewoldt, he might just become one of the Tigers' most valuable players.
It is early days -- Richmond's season starts against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday fortnight -- but Maric's pre-season form is an indication that the club's long-time Achilles heel has been addressed and fixed.
The Tigers have been weak in the ruck division for some time and the unheralded Maric was viewed as a future option mid-way through last year by list manager Blair Hartley.
The 26-year-old was not going anywhere at Adelaide because of a lack of opportunities and was keen on the idea of returning to Victoria from the first day he was sounded out. Before his change of environment, he played 77 games in six seasons with the Crows, including just six last season.
Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said his club had no hesitation in trading its national draft selection No 37 to Adelaide in return, and signing up the ruckman for three years.
"Blair picked him out as someone who could benefit us," Cameron said yesterday. "We wanted a mature, aggressive ruckman, and we've been more than happy with him since he's been here. We've been pleased with the leadership he's brought to the club and encouraged by his competitiveness."
Maric plays a bit like his mullet hairstyle -- old fashioned with no frills. In his first full hit-out for the Tigers he was rock solid in their 59-point third-round NAB Cup win against Geelong at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.
The combination of Maric and Ty Vickery clearly outpointed the Cats' big men -- premiership ruckman Trent West and mature-age recruit Orren Stephenson -- in what was a preview of Richmond's set-up to start the 2012 season proper.
Maric will do the bulk of the ruck work, with Vickery as his back-up, alternating as a tall forward, where he booted 36 goals last year in just his third senior season.
As many as three new Richmond faces could play in the opening round against the Blues, as teenager Brandon Ellis and former Melbourne midfielder Addam Maric (no relation) have done enough in the pre-season to warrant consideration.
The Tigers will wind up their NAB Cup campaign against Greater Western Sydney in Canberra on Saturday when they plan to field a near full-strength line-up, which will include Deledio for the first time during the series. The only certain exclusion is suspended half-back Reece Conca, who is eligible to start the premiership season.
Dual best-and-fairest winner Deledio has been sidelined since damaging his hamstring last month.
Richmond, which has beaten Hawthorn and the Cats in its four NAB Cup matches, appears certain to earn prizemoney by finishing inside the top-eight of the pre-season competition.
On Sunday, coach Damien Hardwick said the Tigers were better placed than at any other time during his first three years at Punt Road to defeat Carlton, which has won its past seven games against Richmond stretching back to round 14, 2008.
He said the win last weekend over Geelong was a step in the right direction. "You only have to look at the depth of our players, the quality of our players, I think they've improved enormously from a development point of view and from a size and a physicality point of view," Hardwick said.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/no-frills-maric-has-tigers-in-the-hunt/story-fnca0u4y-1226297553939
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I closely watched a replay of the game yesterday and Ivan was involved directly in the first few goals. His impact can not be under-rated. It started to run out of petrol as the game wore on but his around the ground work was unheard of at Tigerland! If he can take a few grabs and steer and few goals through down forward that would be the cherry on the cake.
He is the player I'm most excited about watching this year and everything starts at stoppages.
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No frills Maric has Tigers in the hunt
by: Greg Denham
From: The Australian
March 13, 2012
HE won't win a best-and-fairest award and would be at long odds to make All Australian, but new Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his mark at Punt Road.
And while Maric will probably never be mentioned in the same breath as teammates Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin or Jack Riewoldt, he might just become one of the Tigers' most valuable players.
It is early days -- Richmond's season starts against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday fortnight -- but Maric's pre-season form is an indication that the club's long-time Achilles heel has been addressed and fixed.
The Tigers have been weak in the ruck division for some time and the unheralded Maric was viewed as a future option mid-way through last year by list manager Blair Hartley.
The 26-year-old was not going anywhere at Adelaide because of a lack of opportunities and was keen on the idea of returning to Victoria from the first day he was sounded out. Before his change of environment, he played 77 games in six seasons with the Crows, including just six last season.
Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said his club had no hesitation in trading its national draft selection No 37 to Adelaide in return, and signing up the ruckman for three years.
"Blair picked him out as someone who could benefit us," Cameron said yesterday. "We wanted a mature, aggressive ruckman, and we've been more than happy with him since he's been here. We've been pleased with the leadership he's brought to the club and encouraged by his competitiveness."
Maric plays a bit like his mullet hairstyle -- old fashioned with no frills. In his first full hit-out for the Tigers he was rock solid in their 59-point third-round NAB Cup win against Geelong at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.
The combination of Maric and Ty Vickery clearly outpointed the Cats' big men -- premiership ruckman Trent West and mature-age recruit Orren Stephenson -- in what was a preview of Richmond's set-up to start the 2012 season proper.
Maric will do the bulk of the ruck work, with Vickery as his back-up, alternating as a tall forward, where he booted 36 goals last year in just his third senior season.
As many as three new Richmond faces could play in the opening round against the Blues, as teenager Brandon Ellis and former Melbourne midfielder Addam Maric (no relation) have done enough in the pre-season to warrant consideration.
The Tigers will wind up their NAB Cup campaign against Greater Western Sydney in Canberra on Saturday when they plan to field a near full-strength line-up, which will include Deledio for the first time during the series. The only certain exclusion is suspended half-back Reece Conca, who is eligible to start the premiership season.
Dual best-and-fairest winner Deledio has been sidelined since damaging his hamstring last month.
Richmond, which has beaten Hawthorn and the Cats in its four NAB Cup matches, appears certain to earn prizemoney by finishing inside the top-eight of the pre-season competition.
On Sunday, coach Damien Hardwick said the Tigers were better placed than at any other time during his first three years at Punt Road to defeat Carlton, which has won its past seven games against Richmond stretching back to round 14, 2008.
He said the win last weekend over Geelong was a step in the right direction. "You only have to look at the depth of our players, the quality of our players, I think they've improved enormously from a development point of view and from a size and a physicality point of view," Hardwick said.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/no-frills-maric-has-tigers-in-the-hunt/story-fnca0u4y-1226297553939
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Maric to set the Tigers' table for midfield feast
Inside Football
Wednesday, March 14 2012
Richmond star Nathan Foley believes the Tigers' midfield is going to love sitting at the feet of ruck recruit Ivan Maric this season.
Maric dominated in Richmond's 59-point NAB Cup victory over Geelong at Simonds Stadium, allowing the Tiger midfield first use of the ball at the majority of centre bounces and stoppages against a formidable Cats outfit.
Maric, who also stands out on the field because of his 1980s-style mullet hairdo, outplayed Cats pair Trent West and Orren Stephenson, and Foley says the former Adelaide big man's pre-season form is giving the Tigers' young on-ballers a lot of confidence that he'll palm the ball in their direction more often than not.
"Obviously the likes of (Jimmy) Bartel and (Joel) Selwood weren't playing, but Ivan was sensational in the ruck and he gave us a lot of first use," Foley said.
"It (clearance work) is such an important part of the game and if you look at teams like Geelong, Collingwood and all the top teams, their stoppage work is sensational.
"You've got to be so good in that area."
While it may have been only a pre-season match, Foley said there was plenty to like about the Tigers' performance against the premier heading towards their blockbuster season opener against Carlton in a fortnight.
"At this stage of the year you want to get some good form into all your good players and get some run into the legs," Foley said.
"Obviously we fielded a pretty strong side and everyone got through well and we're another step forward in working on our structures and game style.
"If you look at our team, the more footy we play together the more in sync we'll become.
"So another hit-out next week will be good and then we'll zone in on Round 1."
The Tigers travel to Canberra on Saturday to take on GWS.
Foley is another to join the growing chorus impressed by the Tigers' No.1 draft pick of last year Brandon Ellis, who took another step in his development with a 20-possession game against the Cats.
"He's such a good user of the ball and he's not afraid to put his head over it. He's certainly putting his hand up (to play Round 1)," Foley said of Ellis.
After a big summer, Foley had a game-high 25 touches against the Cats.
"You've got to be so fit these days so it's crucial to have a full pre-season," he said.
http://www.insidefootballonline.com/news1.html
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Kingy interviewed big Ivan in the rooms after yesterday's game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/431295/default.aspx
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:lol
Kingy should keep up with current trends in plumbing because he doesn't have a media career to look forward to at the end of his playing days!
:lol
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Ivan "I'm the boss" :cheers
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From Jon Ralph's twitter @RalphyHeraldSun
"Some real concerns out of Tigerland. I believe Ivan Maric was getting haircut on magnificent mullet last night. Hope he kept it long at back"
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From Jon Ralph's twitter @RalphyHeraldSun
"Some real concerns out of Tigerland. I believe Ivan Maric was getting haircut on magnificent mullet last night. Hope he kept it long at back"
And the SA tiger supporter group has just severed ties... :o
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As well as the Tassie ones also.
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Reports of the demise of Ivan's mullet have been greatly exaggerated ...
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/141980405.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215AB089EE596C6588AF139078324D51D92D7AE44B69F8824BF4ADC7C8FFE5830A)
Source: today's training (gettyimages)
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my bro calls him the 'Warlord'.
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my bro calls him the 'Warlord'.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Vlad_Tepes_002.jpg)
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:lol that's gold!
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:lol
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What did we all think of big Ivan's game last night?
Stats:
18 disposals
5 marks
25 hitouts
5 clearances.
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What did we all think of big Ivan's game last night?
Stats:
18 disposals
5 marks
25 hitouts
5 clearances.
He was up against it but gee tried his guts and didn't drop his head
I thought he was in our best 6
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Agree, Kruezer had a blinder last night witch made Maric's game look a little worse than it probally was.
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Tries hard, not bad around the ground, but too short!
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Yep Ivan has his deficiencies but I thought he tried his guts out.
He has competitiveness and gets to contests too.
I shudder to think what the final margin would have been had Gus been playing. :help
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I thought he did well last night, was one of our better players
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Yep Ivan has his deficiencies but I thought he tried his guts out.
He has competitiveness and gets to contests too.
I shudder to think what the final margin would have been had Gus been playing. :help
He was competitive. That's all we got him for. He was the reason why we were close to the Baggers in the clearance count.
You're right Tucker - we would have been absolutely smashed if Gus had of tried to ruck las night.
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Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday
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Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday
can we bring back the knob instead
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Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....
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Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....
Was sorta hoping me and my mate were only ones who saw it considering CH7 missed it.
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Oh no it's on camera! The match review will have a decent view of it as well ::) there was another head slap that went unnoticed as well, think it was Ellis or moris can't remember either way it could be looked at....
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i dont care.Slap as many of them as you can i say.We aint playing finals,so belt mofos
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i dont care.Slap as many of them as you can i say.We aint playing finals,so belt mofos
:lol....hang on :shh :shh
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Prepare for the return of Graham, Maric is going to be having a short holiday
Would rather derickx browne griffs elton
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Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....
Just had a look at the replay of the incident on youtube. I wouldn't be surprised if he got off. Contact to the head was very light and the player he struck threw his head back again after the initial contact - ie there is a minor jolt back of the head upon contact, a delay, and then the Melbourne player jolts his head back again (further and more dramatically).
It's no worse than Davey's clenched strike to the throat on Ellis IMO
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you got a link please dooks?
considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent
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you got a link please dooks?
considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent
Certainly do Big Al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD3AgNa1AoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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:cheers
doesnt seem to be much in it. from that you cant even tell if he actually made contact.
davey gave ellis at least 2 that had a bit more on them than that.
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Next time he'll use the mullet and and give him whiplash :thumbsup
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:cheers
doesnt seem to be much in it. from that you cant even tell if he actually made contact.
davey gave ellis at least 2 that had a bit more on them than that.
That's my take on it all too :cheers
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If we lose him we're stuffed.
Quite simple.
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...doesn't look like much (cheers for the link too Al)...I'd prefer to refer to it as a "My PIMP hand is strong!!" type of action... :)
most impressive thing about big Anna-Ivanavic is that even when down early he stills continues to fight, make contests, throw his body around and ruck like he wants to/means to...big step up and though not a dominant ruck ala Sandi or Cox is def providing better value than our younger rucks were AND on the plus side, this gives Browne, Gus, Tommy D etc time to grow into big bodies, develop against VFL sides and get some confidence up...
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you got a link please dooks?
considering the MRP's concentration on result rather than intent, you could be right, if they are consistent
Certainly do Big Al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD3AgNa1AoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Going slightly OT, there is another link that deserves a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXXM_JZg8_M&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXXM_JZg8_M&feature=related)
As the intro says, imagine what its going to be like when we win our next flag. :gotigers
Any OER posters get their ugly mug in this vid?
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Yes didnt look good, CH7 never went back to the replay but you could see his head jolt in real time so he will get weeks or sure.....
Just had a look at the replay of the incident on youtube. I wouldn't be surprised if he got off. Contact to the head was very light and the player he struck threw his head back again after the initial contact - ie there is a minor jolt back of the head upon contact, a delay, and then the Melbourne player jolts his head back again (further and more dramatically).
It's no worse than Davey's clenched strike to the throat on Ellis IMO
Are u serious? He touchednhis hair!
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Validating his recruitment with every game. Big Ivan was very good today and worked tirelessly all game in the ruck.
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The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.
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The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.
We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles. Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.
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gee we have found a ruckman here.
:thumbsup
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The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.
We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles. Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.
Nip we need to drop the 3 tall fwd line and go with twin talls, run them off their feet. 3 talls don't work!
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The big fella will need a hand next week against the Weagles Rucks.
We need to bring in both Elton and Griffiths for height against the weagles. Vickery will probably miss with a shoulder.
Nip we need to drop the 3 tall fwd line and go with twin talls, run them off their feet. 3 talls don't work!
I meant play Griff in defence and Elton in as a sub.
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Maric needs to go, he has stuffed this team.
Graham to ruck this week.
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gee we have found a ruckman here.
:thumbsup
Not so much that but a competitor in the ruck position.
Helps the team so much. :thumbsup
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I have to say the crows have given us a bloody ripper i hope he wins the jack dyer medal . love the way he plays even when outclassed he is still classy which makes no sense at all mwahaha
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I have to say the crows have given us a bloody ripper i hope he wins the jack dyer medal . love the way he plays even when outclassed he is still classy which makes no sense at all mwahaha
Hat I loved most about Maric today is once Nic Nat started o get on top he adjusted accordingly to restrict his run up. Natanui was brilliant today but I thought Maric gave a good honest contest wher others would have just given up......
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Was stunning. Immense and from big Ivan
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Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC
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Graham played today and we win.
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Played a great game for a battler. Helped out the defenders a number of times
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Was fantastic today and uses the ball well. His field kicking is more than solid.
We wanted a competitive ruckman and we got a beast. Plays his guts out.
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Mullet-Man stuffing Rocks!!
Big fan.
Yebemti westcoact,Ivan!!
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Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC
^^^THIS!
The effort he puts in is phenomenal. Loved his taps over the back of his head to our mids in the centre bounces today. :clapping
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Cant believe I am seeing a ruckman who is competitive and puts it on the line, havent seen it in years at RFC
Yes its very odd.
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Took some strong grabs. Played a great game. A real competitor.
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VIDEO: We speak to Ivan Maric on his return to Adelaide ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/446707/default.aspx
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Awesome game from big Evan. BOG for mine. 46 hitouts, 20 possies and 5 marks :thumbsup.
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Awesome game from big Evan. BOG for mine. 46 hitouts, 20 possies and 5 marks :thumbsup.
Yep huge game from the Mullet Man
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My man love for the big fella grows, he just keeps trying works his backside off.
Would have to be in the top 3 in b&f atm
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very impressive game from the big fella :thumbsup
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Has been one of our better trades.
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Been good.
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Competes and has ticker. All we want in a ruckman. :thumbsup
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another moneyball type trade that fills a role and came cheap, yet received much derision at the time from many on the interweb
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Hartley's Hits:
Grigg
Houli
Maric
Cameron's Crumpets:
Morton
Thomson
Kingsley
A.Maric
Miller :shh
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LMAO I don't like Helmut but Kingsley was a Miller/Wallet special
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Word is he rang that one in from his old desk :shh
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:shh
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Sheesh this guy was a good get, i knew very little of this fella and i dont hink i was alone, full credit to blair hartley, this guy is a dead set slueth when it comes to picking up smokies :shh
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Hartley done really well with Maric. Houli and Grigg ok - as the great Jack Dyer would have said good ordinary players but Maric is very good. Well done to Hartley. I was critical of him at the start but if he starts producing trades like Maric then Ill pay him due credit.
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This guy has been more than just good....we even saw glimpses of benny Gale today,dropping pack and picking off marks at will
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pretty sure he lives down back. the other ruckman haven't followed him down
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This guy has me bamboozled, never heard of him until we picked him up and he is a fair dinkum SUPERSTAR! Well not quite but get my drift ;D
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This guy has been more than just good....we even saw glimpses of benny Gale today,dropping pack and picking off marks at will
Ha, was thinkingnsame thing, benny must have had a coffee with him :lol
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correct me if i'm wrong but has this guys rested on the bench at all?..he seems to go all day
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Maric had a good game but let's put it in perspective here.....the opposition was poo.
He's done a very good job since coming over. A massive difference when a ruckman is competative. The sooner we get rid of the big girl Graham and the big pear browne the better we can concetrate on recruiting some real ruck talent.
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would think he would be in our top 5 for the JD medal at this point. i dont much credit to our past recruiting but he is a beauty
I know it was said before but he reminds me of Benny Gale
Cant see anyone else in front of him outside of Tucky, Cotch and Lids.
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
:lol
Oh DEAr !
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:lol
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The people's mullet
By Harry Thring
afl.com.au
7:55 PM Sun 06 May, 2012
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has labelled iconic ruckman Ivan Maric a "star", after a career-best 46 hit-outs from the former Crow led the Tigers to a 37-point victory at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.
Maric has become a cult figure since joining the Tigers at the end of 2011, largely due to his flowing mullet. But hairstyle aside, Maric was brilliant in terrible conditions, managing five clearances, three inside 50's and 20 disposals to go with his tremendous effort in the ruck.
"He's been a star," Hardwick said.
"He's been a high-calibre person, what he's delivering on the field is high calibre also.
"He's been a very good player for us."
Hardwick said the 200cm giant was settling nicely into life as a Tiger, but he isn't a fan of Maric's mullet.
"He's a guy who's starting to understand our system, what's required of him, he gets the ball from A to B and he's been a real plus for us this year," he said.
"He's still got some areas of his game that he can work on, mainly his hair."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/135039/default.aspx
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same can be said for people who claimed on here that Tambling, Connors, Edwards would be stars
Works both ways
Maric has been great for us, not just today but in every game. Gives us a chance at every contest
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Spot on Daniel.
He isn't Dean Cox or Aaron Sandilands but he puts everything into his ruckwork and his around the ground work and he has provided us with an opportunity for our mids to get first use.
We have been one of the top sides in centre clearances so far this year, no thanks to having a ruckman who competes all the time not just part of the time. :thumbsup
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I think people undersell the big man when they suggest that he is only a battler with a good work rate. He has nice hands and some football nouse.
:thumbsup
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I think people undersell the big man when they suggest that he is only a battler with a good work rate. He has nice hands and some football nouse.
:thumbsup
Yes nice hands. Only an average ruckman compared to others however. Tell you what, if the sub rule got stuffed off then we'd be going alright with Maric and Beef.
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Mark Viduka bought him a boat :cheers
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Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.
Play Gus.
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Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.
Play Gus.
Stop trolling.
Gus for Vickery is the only way he gets back in.
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Snip! Stick to the topic ppl!
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Maric was very good yesterday. His defensive work was outstanding. In a game where you needed the ruck to be dominant he did that. Maric was one of the few who had a good third quarter.
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Maric has served us well, but it is now time fir a younger player to get a go.
Play Gus.
Stop trolling.
Gus for Vickery is the only way he gets back in.
This is what happens when Anne Sullivan leaves him alone to long
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VIDEO: A highlights package of the mullet from yesterday..and the man attached to it
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/447165/default.aspx
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Robbo on the Herald-Sun website has big Ivan as recruit of the year so he's on board...
1. Ivan Maric
Forget cult hero status, forget the mullet, the Tigers big man is the genuine article as a footballer. Against Brent Renouf, who admittedly is not Simon Madden, Maric forged career-highs in possessions (20) and hitouts (46). He is a contagious footballer, in the sense that his character and enthusiasm overwhelms his lack of silk, and his teammates just love his competitive nature.
Recruit of the year? Don't know if such an award exists but Josh Hill and Tigers ruckman Maric would be the contenders.
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Not to tarnish this thread, but just quickly... Is Josh Hill the lazy prique from the doggies who wouldnt put his hands up whilst on the mark??
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Best mates with Chris Knights
who is out of contract and a restricted free agent end of this year
just sayin
injury prone HFF anyone?
CC says yessssssss :shh
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Best mates with Chris Knights
who is out of contract and a restricted free agent end of this year
just sayin
injury prone HFF anyone?
CC says yessssssss :shh
I agree. As I already stated in another thread we should target knights. He knows where the goals are and he has no trouble finding the ball. It'll be great to cheer on a knights again. :thumbsup
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cool. i was prepared to totally overlook his poor disposal as well so he can take the heat off edwards :cheers
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Maric is becoming one of the best recruits we've picked up in decades. Another 17 possies and 28 hitouts :thumbsup.
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Has nothing on Stafford but it looks like Maric will be available for selection more often than Staff ;D
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Well done Richmond.
You only stumbled along like fools for a decade,refusing to acknowledge the fact-"No RUCK-no team." :shh
The BEEFCAKE IS DEAD-LONG LIVE THE SLAV!!!!!
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marz will kill
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He's got a mullet and he's ƒucking grouse.
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Have you seen how flicks it sideways into the opposition ruckmans eyes when he goes up for the ball, stuffing brilliant and totally legal.
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I seen someone touch his mullet whilst taking a hanger over him today, should've dropped the prick for that!
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He's here,his name is Ivan the pitchku and he wants to play with the boys.
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
:lol
Oh DEAr !
LMAO no wonder they sacked him
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
:lol
Oh DEAr !
LMAO no wonder they sacked him
not Jack's best post.
let's hope we have many more opportunities to re-quote this clanger
:thumbsup
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gold and proves what i have always said, only jackstar believes his own waffle, and we all know he does not know a damn thing but posts things trying to make us believe he knows it all
class one knob
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another good game from Maric. Seaby was destroyed
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The thing that amazed me yesterday was that this bloke only had very limited rest time,more or less rucked alone all day and was one of our better players to boot.
And one other thing i love about this bloke is his second and third efforts,he's prepared to scrap for the ball in the clinches
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He's as good as Stafford. Coach has NFI
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I have to agree with the pickled cucumber the cro is as good as stafford.
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why on earth are we looking at getting players from a "'bottom club "" :banghead :banghead
Especially when they cant get a game there.
Maric is no better than Graham.so why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
Oh dear
Jack has disappeared again
:lol
Oh DEAr !
LMAO no wonder they sacked him
not Jack's best post.
let's hope we have many more opportunities to re-quote this clanger
:thumbsup
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Imagine if we had another ruck man of the same ilk, like NicNat/Cox...... :santa
One more ruck man next year and game on..
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I don't buy the "he's just a battler" bs
He's got serious game
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I don't buy the "he's just a battler" bs
He's got serious game
I agree TM. He has a good all-round game and is a magnificent team-mate who constantly protects our mids.
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agree good as Stafford. His goal was fantastic too
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with all due respect to staff,from what i have seen so far this guy is streets ahead of stafford(i mean richmond staff not swans staff)
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You guys need to watch more games from Stafford's time. Let's remember for quite a while he had Tim Flemming and Aaron Fiora at his feet, not Martin, Chimp etc. Maric is a lot better than what I thought he would be. When he starts kicking 20-30 goals a season maybe he'll be as good as Staff was.
All you guys taking pot shots at Jack should pull your heads in. I don't recall everyone being on the Maric bandwagon when we were trading away a pick for him. He has been good though. Big test this week against some good rucks
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Staff and maric play different styles too. besides their ruck work, staff was a good target up forward who would take grabs and kick goals, whereas maric is good at dropping back and helping the defenders out.
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Stafford did that as well.
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He also broke people's jaws and didn't get suspended. Maric will need to start doing this.
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Stafford was in decline as a ruckman when he came to us, was still a valuable fwd target
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scarey eyes on the guy when close to the boundry, should have a acting career in scarey movie or scream when footy career is over ;D
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Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
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Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves
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Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves
Coach approves?
WGAF?
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Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves
Coach approves?
WGAF?
And you think we care if you vote for Brett Deledio in next years favourite player game?
Why don't you go put some poor kid on rubbish duty.
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Maric will go close to kicking 20 goals this season, and that's without having the luxury of resting fwd like the big Stiffy
Not sure he will get to 20, gg. He doesn't mind grabbing it out of the ruck and having a snap though. Coach approves
Coach approves?
WGAF?
And you think we care if you vote for Brett Deledio in next years favourite player game?
Why don't you go put some poor kid on rubbish duty.
:thumbsup
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Not sure he will get to 20, gg.
Will go close. Learn to read FFS
Coach approves?
WGAF?
This
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Well what is close? Will he kick 17? Put your tight nutsack on the line and tell us.
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I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20
FFS
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FFS
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Anyway back to the topic ...
Apart from his ruckwork and contesting around the ground, one other thing Ivan brings is the blocking and screening our midfielders missed out on before he arrived. He just has the awareness to plonk his huge frame in the right spot around the ground so the mids can feed off him and gain a break from their direct opponent.
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Imagine if we had another ruck man of the same ilk, like NicNat/Cox...... :santa
One more ruck man next year and game on..
god forbid
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We already have one. :banghead
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I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20
FFS
Close to 20 could be 21 :rollin
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I'll give you a clue, close to 20 is not 20
FFS
Close to 20 could be 21 :rollin
:clapping
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I'll give both you nitwits another clue
Going close to is not getting to or going over
FFS
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Pull your head in. People are looking for quality Maric talk...they don't need to wade through this.
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Mods :banghead :banghead
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Yes?
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Yes?
Who??
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Back on topic, can we please get Maric out and bring Beefy in this week?
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beefy was red carded thank god 4 that
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No he wasn't
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if we r talking about angus he was red carded and sent off the ground
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if we r talking about angus he was red carded and sent off the ground
Yep Gus faces the AFL tribunal tonight as does BrownE...
Gus is in strife
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I heard this guy was no good and said so on this site. I now humbly apologise, he has been gr8 for us this year.
He has made a huge difference to our structure so big ticks for Ivan and the recruiters. Well done.
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Good stuff Mint.
I owe Tuck an apology I didn't think he could play a part in our side a couple of years ago and have been proven wrong.
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Mint so far hes been unbelievable for us.however i wouldnt lose any sleep about getting it wrong.I think many of us here had doubts about recruiting a player who was 25 and couldnt crack it for a game with the crows who werent exactly setting the world on fire last year....
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ya know I can honestly say I knew nothing of this fella other than his name, i wouldnt have recognised him from sammy davis junior if I bumped into him in the street. However I stopped short of damning the decision, coz no-one really could tell. any boofhead would tell you that the likes of darren jolly showed nothing until mid 20s, evaaan is another cab off the rank :shh
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hang on a minute..If sammy davis junior rocked up to the club one fine summers day,you would more than likely think hes a draftee?...lol
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hang on a minute..If sammy davis junior rocked up to the club one fine summers day,you would more than likely think hes a draftee?...lol
FFS if Sammy Davis Junior rocked up at the club the earth would have come to an end! The guy has been dead for years!
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lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
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lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
Well We do have Dustin "Dean" Martin. ;D
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lol...maybe hese refering to his ghost..now that would be a turn up..I 'd even drop maric for that
Well We do have Dustin "Dean" Martin. ;D
Lol i like that :lol
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Sorry to daniel jackson.
I thought he lacked footy smarts and was a shoody kick.
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and that hot gospeller ..angus "billy graham"
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On behalf of WAT, i'd like to apologize to Shane Edwards. After re-watching the replay against the swans (thrice. FACT) WAT has finally gained an appreciation for Shane's magic toes and sparkling eyes. Sozzle, Shedzy.
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On behalf of WAT, i'd like to apologize to Shane Edwards. After re-watching the replay against the swans (thrice. FACT) WAT has finally gained an appreciation for Shane's magic toes and sparkling eyes. Sozzle, Shedzy.
On my behalf.......don't think so.
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:'(
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:laugh:
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Edwardd is fast has upside and good balance and agility.
Not far to judge him as a sub
Might come good.
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he wasn't sub on the w/e??
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My bad maybr just rubbish :(
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ya know I can honestly say I knew nothing of this fella other than his name, i wouldnt have recognised him from sammy davis junior if I bumped into him in the street. However I stopped short of damning the decision, coz no-one really could tell. any boofhead would tell you that the likes of darren jolly showed nothing until mid 20s, evaaan is another cab off the rank :shh
Sammy Davis Jnr, Whoa Bo Jo, get me a shovel and hire me a grave digger!
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The man love for the big fella just is immense he has well and truly held his own against the bombers talented ruckmen
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would love to see him win our best and fairest if he keeps it up.
He is more than a good competetitor, IMO he is in AA form.
Seems a real good bloke too
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Ivan is a legend, he is awesome stuffing!
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Disagree, he's making our supporters look like red neck bogans! The mullet must go and we must move on immediately! Yes he can play but gee whiz.......
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I say perm it and wear a fishnet top, hell huck in some kung fu slippers to complete the statement.
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Just platt the phucking thing and get on with it!
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I say perm it and wear a fishnet top, hell huck in some kung fu slippers to complete the statement.
:lol :thatsgold
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Only lost by 2 HO to the best ruckmen in the comp. :lol
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Only lost by 2 HO to the best ruckmen in the comp. :lol
The plural "ruckmen" being the critical part in this statement. Maric has exceeded all my expectations by a long long way thus far. :clapping
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he is awesome stuffing!
I think i prefer regular stuffing in my roast Chicken thank you owl, you weirdo.
Ivan is a gun.
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going by his stats (which is what most of us had to go on) he was barely better than Graham. In fact his stats were not better. by stuff has he been good though. wouldn't be surprised if he needs a rest later in the year. aboslute workhorse this lad
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going by his stats (which is what most of us had to go on) he was barely better than Graham. In fact his stats were not better. by stuff has he been good though. wouldn't be surprised if he needs a rest later in the year. aboslute workhorse this lad
I don't believe that. 22 possys, 9 marks.
You should be banned from this forum for even mentioning Maric and Graham in the same breath. Maric is everything you want in a player
Gutsy, competitive and importantly can play the game
Would love to see him win AA selection. Can't see anyone ahead of him, Cox aside
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Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
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Relax Tiger
A simple I meant prior to getting drafted would've been sufficient
Apology accepted bud
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Relax Tiger
A simple I meant prior to getting drafted would've been sufficient
Apology accepted bud
'you'd think someone would have enough common sense....'
thought for sure I'd grab a nibble. :(
and he didn't get drafted, danielle :lol
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graham could not even take a pack mark or throw his body in
maric poos all over graham and impacts on games , graham is a waste
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But more importantly, how is Richie Tambling going?
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Best thing to happen to the Tigers in a very long time.
Well done to Richmond for convincing the opposition that Maric was just an "honest plodder" for so long....the jig is up now.
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Almost give tambling a game in the forward pocket if he were still around.
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Another tick for Matt Hornsby's homework. His statistically analysis of every player in the league over every round gives the club a much better understanding of a players worth than any of shallow stats we are feed. When Maric expressed interest in moving, we knew what he was capable of.
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Matt Hornsby is a glorified fitness instructor
You're thinking of Blair Hartley
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Matt Hornsby is a glorified fitness instructor
You're thinking of Blair Hartley
That's twice in two threads of done that. :banghead Sorry :-[
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How good is he going.
Great game yet again by the big fella
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In AA form ATM :thumbsup
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Shows real leadership when we need it. Going real good is the Cro. :clapping
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no he is crap, graham is better
lmao
nuffers fo
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no he is crap, graham is better
lmao
nuffers fo
Agree, jackster and i are right behind u there, he is crap
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who dont know him, im not on his buddy list lol
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Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.
ask any adelaide supporter they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.
as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
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Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.
ask any adelaide supporter they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.
as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?
He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
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We have 3 players from other teams in our top 22 now but I think Maric is the best pick up of the lot. Apart form these three how long since we got any decent players from other teams? Stafford ? Brodrick ? Name a few ????? Cousins lol (not sure you can count him as from another team)
Loving the Mullet and so must Cotch ,Lids, Martin and the rest of the midfield.
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love the way he blocks and uses his frame and takes marks
gus is a toss and must never be seen again
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Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.
ask any adelaide supporter they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.
as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?
He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
what left your glasses behind somehere. i ssaid he will be around for 4 or 5 yrs but stop and think for a minute. how long do you think it will take to develop a ruckman to get to ivans stage. 3 yrs 4 yrs 5 yrs maybe. nope if we want his replacement we want him in our system asap. we probably should not have all the eggs in one basket and have two.
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
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I didnt realise how much Vickery helps the side giving big Sir Mullet Ivan a spell up forward late in the third turned the game on in our favour and flattened the Hawks . Must admit it was just a joy to behold the whole team played their role perfectly
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If Vickery can step up and play the forward/ruck role then Ivan will get that rest during games he needs and provide us with that extra avenue in our forward and defence.
If we can get a third ruckman it will only complement us further and provide insurance.
Eeevarn has been recruit of the year for us.
Blair Hartley I applaud you. :clapping :gotigers
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I really thought posters on this forum were putting too much faith and pressure on this bloke when we recruited him. I thought he would go ok and maybe be a fill in ruck man until we recruited a big name player. But sheesh I really didn't expect him to perform the way he has. All Australian form at the minute!
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Right now Ivan and Jacobs are the two AA ruckmen. :thumbsup
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Ivan Maric stakes his claim on ruck
Mark Hayes
From: Sunday Herald Sun
May 27, 2012
IN nine short weeks, Ivan Maric has gone from intriguingly mulleted sideshow to bona fide ruck god.
And from no less an inspiration than Chris Newman, it says everything about the ex-Crow that the Richmond captain said he was making a good midfield group look even better.
"He's playing his role, big Ivan, but when you run out with him, you definitely walk a little bit taller," Newman said after Maric pulverised a combination of Jarryd Roughead and David Hale in the ruck in the Tigers' 62-point caning of Hawthorn at the MCG.
Importantly, though, Maric also had 18 incisive disposals, including a goal and classy goal assist in the game's most telling five minutes late in the third term.
"He competes hard, drops back to help out in defence, gives us good use out of the middle and can sneak forward and kick a couple which is really important," Newman said.
"I love playing with him, boys love playing with him, and the supporters certainly love him.
"(In Adelaide) he always had the reputation of a bash-and-crash ruckman who thrived on contest.
"(But) he's grown an extra leg here. He's appreciative that he's been given a second opportunity and the thing I love is that he was so keen from the get-go to come over, and he saw something in the group and wanted to be a part of it."
While the recruit wanted to play selfless team football, Maric himself said his fitness was the catalyst for his starring individual form.
"I've done a full pre-season and I feel, even in the last quarter in the last few weeks, like my running is pretty strong and that I can match it with anyone in the comp," Maric said on 3AW.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/ivan-maric-stakes-his-claim-on-ruck/story-e6frf9jf-1226367861720
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And yet u think browne derickx cant make
Wont get better over next 4 years?
Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.
ask any adelaide supporter they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.
as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?
He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
what left your glasses behind somehere. i ssaid he will be around for 4 or 5 yrs but stop and think for a minute. how long do you think it will take to develop a ruckman to get to ivans stage. 3 yrs 4 yrs 5 yrs maybe. nope if we want his replacement we want him in our system asap. we probably should not have all the eggs in one basket and have two.
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
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Pull your in and go and look at his stats prior to this year. I'm talking about when we were trading for him. No one know too much about the lad and going by the stats it didn't look like he was much of an upgrade. I'm not talking about this season you slapper. My post was about how good he has been for us. Stats don't mean everything, sometimes you need to watch a bloke in person to see what they really offer. Maric is one of those blokes
Pull your head in, danielle. stuff me, you'd think someone would have enough common sense....
hes had another great game today gave our mids an armchair ride again and hes become indispensible. imo is the aa ruckman atm.
but you know your right, big ivan battled real hard for any sort of consistency at adelaide. he most certainly hadnt made it as a player and a awful lot of his games were underwhelming to say the least, i thought him well worth getting but i had serious doubts about useing pick 35 on him a 26 yr old ruckman who could not get a regular game. lot of risk there to be useing that pick.
ask any adelaide supporter they loved him but the gripe was he would play 2 or 3 good games and then go missing for long periods.
as its panned out we have found a very good ruckman and credit to those in charge on this one, hartley i think it was, was keen on big ivan for yrs. now we need to go out and find his long term replacement and get him in our system asap in preparation for when ivan wont be around in 4 or 5 yrs time.
Get his replacement in our system ASAP? What drugs are up your ort?
He's just turned 26 years old in Jan? He's got another 5-6 years left. ....
i suppose you would like us to draft a 18 yo ruckman just as ivan is about to retire.
That isn't the trend at the moment. The tendency is to snatch an underperforming Ruck from another list or a minor league. I think this policy is the better way to go. Recruiting an 18 year old Ruck is too 'hit-or-miss'.
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"He competes hard, drops back to help out in defence, gives us good use out of the middle and can sneak forward and kick a couple which is really important" sums up Maric nicely. The goal in the third term and his goal set up were crucial. He took a great grab in the backline. Good on him. Agree need a good back up Ruckman. Hopefully Vickery develops in that regard.
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He has gone to #1 on my list - sorry Dusty and Cotch
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amazing how he gets around, Vickery played a good role also yesterday.
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a commentator described him as a "shuffler" and thats what he looks like..But he's so damn effective.
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- Competes well in the ruck and around the stoppages.
- Shepherds and blocks for teammates.
- Drops into the hole and takes pack marks in defence.
- Forward line threat who can kick a goal.
:bow :bow :bow :bow
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- Competes well in the ruck and around the stoppages.
- Shepherds and blocks for teammates.
- Drops into the hole and takes pack marks in defence.
- Forward line threat who can kick a goal.
:bow :bow :bow :bow
he is still no good, jackstar said so and he knows it all
LMAO
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I just want to get my signature in this thread again
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I'm in LLLLAAAAWWWWLLLLL ;D
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how many brownlow votes would he have now? the mullet makes him stand out, he could be very high in the brownlow count come years end imho.
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He is a dead set smokey if he can keep playing to this standard for the full season .... keeps cracking the ton constantly in super coach
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Our centre clearance work is soooooooo much better when big Ivan is in the ruck. When the Saints looked like over-running us and were winning it out of the middle in the last quarter, Dimma was smart enough to quickly get Maric back in at the centre bounces.
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:thumbsup saw a lot of mullet wigs, 4 guys got told they weren't allowed to wear them in the Woolshed at Docklands....would Ivan be allowed in? Once again a ripper game, solid as a rock and has plenty of footy smarts. 10/10 for big Ivan
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was not keen on useing pick 35 to get him. but have to say this bloke has been fantastic and worth every cent. if we are smart we will target asap a highly rated young ruckman to to take over from him in 3 or 4 yrs time. get him in the system and know hes going to be a good one.
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Ivan Maric's mullet set to bring in big bucks
Aaron Langmaid
From: Herald Sun
June 05, 2012
IT'S contemporary football's most unfashionable hairdo - but it could make rising Tiger Ivan Maric millions.
Years after the last mulleted player left the turf, the Richmond ruckman has resurrected the fashion faux pas and ignited a new brand for Tigerland.
Insiders are said to be considering merchandising Maric's long locks as the fans lap up Richmond's long awaited surge towards the finals.
Maric's scissor snub, initially a pact with former teammate Taylor Walker, could now land him lucrative sponsorships.
Experts say Maric, 26, had been making his mark on the field - but it was his increasing influence on the fabric of the club that could also be priceless for diehard supporters.
Image Group International chief executive Jon-Michail said Maric shouldn't cut his crop.
"At this point it's a winning formula, fans are loving it," Jon-Michail said.
"He has to perform on the field, but it's essential he brands himself off it. He is doing that."
Jon-Michail said that while a mullet haircut was representative of the average Aussie yobbo, Maric was anything but.
"He's the opposite," Jon-Michail said.
It was in Richmond's interests to maximise that and see how it could make hay from his popularity. Hair product deals were an obvious option but Maric's rising status could pay off for any brand willing to sign him, Jon-Michail said.
Cheer squad member Eddie Smith has been wearing a mullet wig to every game this season and says fans love what Maric has brought to the club.
Tiger fans fearing Maric might lose his mullet can relax.
"My plan is to keep it long-term," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/ivan-marics-mullet-set-to-bring-in-big-bucks/story-fn7x8me2-1226384022548
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Poor guy has to get married now with a mullet.
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Like Brian Wilson's Beard for the SF Giants :thumbsup
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Like Brian Wilson's Beard for the SF Giants :thumbsup
AS long as big Ivan doesn't dye it jet black ;D
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Instead of "Fear the Beard"
"Covet thy Mullet"
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/qo86mw.jpg)
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Instead of "Fear the Beard"
"Covet thy Mullet"
:bow :bow :thumbsup :thumbsup
;D
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VIDEO: AFL legend Leigh Matthews wanted to sit down 1 on 1 with Ivan Maric for Channel 7, here's the video
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/456467/Matthews%20interviews%20Maric/
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His comments about getting monstered by bigger ruckmen when he was younger, and now how he wants to do the same to the younger ones, to leave them with something to think about, probably should be kept in mind in regards to our younger ruckmen.
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Just love the way he goes about his work. Has changed our midfield with his impact and is our most important player structure wise at the moment. :thumbsup
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cmon guys we used pick 35 to find a competetive ruckman nothing more. we got a bloody bewty but that bewty is 26.
still against useing picks like 35 on unproven players and ivan was a unproven 26 yr old one.
we need to find his replacement now. i say this knowing we will have ivan for 4 or 5 yrs maybe more maybe less. list management or good list managemet caters to depth and it caters to succession.
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Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right :shh
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after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
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after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
I thought exactly the same thing, Al. But sometimes it's just worth just not even getting involved lol.
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Claw - was browne as good as maric was at the same age?
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Maric is a dud we should have used pick 135
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after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price. i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah, thing is i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.
yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.
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after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.
bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price. i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah, thing is i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.
yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.
But Claw, first round draft picks have also proven to be just as big a gamble. Fiora, Tambling anyone?? As others have said, if the footy dept have people with smarts, Like Hartley has, they can see through the fog of uncertainty to find that glimmer of gold.
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Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right :shh
even i was sure he would give us more than graham. still it was a qualified decision on a player who could not crack a regular game.
getting the balance between retaining good picks and trading for players has always been the problem and it is what has killed us over the yrs. taking mature players has not been the problem.
im more than happy to concede hartley got it right but as a general rule of thumb i would not want to see us useing such good picks on unproven players qualified decision or not.
if they cant get the first and second rounders right they shouldnt have a job. we are ow going to have to go out and use a good pick on a ruckman so we can replace maric in the short term.
lets get it straight im not arguing if ivan has turned out to be a good choice he has. but i will always go mad if we are useing second rounders on players who are 26 and struggled that process has and will bite us on the arse more often than not.
list management has been that bad along with recruiting that yes we were in a diabolical situation where we had to trade for a ruckman who would be more competetive than the duds we had/have.
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they got it right and the price wasn't too high, bottom line.
Strange that it turns out that that someone who does this poo for a living gets it right and and armchair critic is wrong.
What a weird world we live in......
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How did you intend us to get mids 20s potential A grade ruck without using pick 2nd round?
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How did you intend us to get mids 20s potential A grade ruck without using pick 2nd round?
are you telling me in all honesty that you thought ivan an a grader or the club did as well. geez that is revisionism at its best. we used pick 35 on a bloke whos form line spelled average at best but an upgrade on what we had.
exactly how many of you thought ivan an a grade player before we drafted him.
they got it right and the price wasn't too high, bottom line.
Strange that it turns out that that someone who does this poo for a living gets it right and and armchair critic is wrong.
What a weird world we live in......
who got anything wrong i havent said we should not have given ivan a try was all for getting a mature ruckman any ruckman as long as he was better than graham now lets face it that was not going to be hard to do.
not much you can say that will make me change my thinking. 2nd rounders on unproven inconsistent players who are usurped by all and sundry is a process that i would not like to see us go thru too often.
i sometimes wonder if you lot have learnt anything at all from the frawley wallace days.
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so funny, blair hartly got it right, but we havnt learned anything from the wallace frawly days.
It doesnt matter what your uniformed opinion was at the time, the club had a process that set a value on ivan. they started their bidding at that value and got their man...at that value.
so far, from his performance they have been vindicated, yet in your narcisstic manner you still think it was a mistake because it differed from your opinion on him at the time.
:lol
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I really don't even know what it is
Bore Claw is trying to argue anymore.
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Claw, reckon u need a spell buddy...
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yep give it up claw
and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol
maric was a steal at 35 .
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Just gone over the draft picks twice.
Maric was worth pick 35
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This guy has to go, cost us the game with stopping Dusty's goal.
JJ was right all along.
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Watch the replay, you will find that Maric was infringed against by the Freo defender. He was struck in the face in the act of spoiling by the defender from front on and should have received a free kick.
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he has gotta go hes a dud
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yep give it up claw
and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol
maric was a steal at 35 .
was he well i suppose he was. as it panned out.
isnt it ironic one gets accused of useing hindsight all the time yet here are posters useing hindsight to say ivan was a sure thing.
nothing could be further from the truth.
nope its not about ivan per say. we are talking the process here and giving up 2nd rnd picks for 26 yr olds who had it all to prove is not for me. again on this one they got it right but its not the process i would like to see them regularly go thru. this will change.
a question would people be happy if we gave up pick 33 for renouf which is what port did he had performed just as well as big ivan before being traded but is still no better than when he was at hawthorn. thing is he is younger.
people think im having a go at ivan im not im over the moon we got him, i think hes played out of his skin far far better than anything hes offered up in previous yrs.
thing is i value 2nd rnd picks and if you are going to trade em away they had better be sure things at 26 yrs of age. and not just on someone who fills a need who may be marginally better on what you have. just the fact we traded out of 2nd rounder a pick that should net a good long term player should be a concern to all. yet alone use it on a 26 yr old who still had it all in front of him to prove himself.
ah well once again i disagree with most about processes and just how well we have done. to me ivan was a desperation trade in the end. for once it seems it panned out in our favor.
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yep give it up claw
and to think all kids drafted end up stars lol
maric was a steal at 35 .
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ah well once again i disagree with most about processes and just how well we have done. to me ivan was a desperation trade in the end. for once it seems it panned out in our favor.
Professionals doing a professional job and getting it right. Shouldn't that be a tick for the process ? So the process works and you still can't or wont acknowledge it. The evidence is that the process has worked for 2 years now (Grigg, Houli, Morris and Maric) and yet you still beat some time to some old drum.
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Some people are just not going to be happy and even when something works they want to bring up the past and belittle it.
It's the same story over and over again and we'll get the Francis Jackson 2005 picks and all that up until now and how and what and why. The message is wearing thin.
Some people just don't feel alive unless they find something to worry about, belittle something or find any reason to cling onto and call it hindsight.
Yet we are head in the sand brigade and think Jako and Nahas are guns and we'll win a flag.
It's like I'm 14 years old again, lecture after lecture after lecture.
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Cult hero Maric lets it flow
Michelangelo Rucci
From: The Advertiser
June 30, 2012
IVAN Maric today becomes the third former Crow - among the four defectors from last spring - to return to AAMI Stadium as "the enemy".
Phil Davis, a key defender and co-captain at expansion franchise Greater Western Sydney, will have a much healthier bank balance by the end of his first season away from Adelaide.
Jack Gunston may establish himself in the Hawthorn attack - and perhaps have an AFL premiership medal to cap off his "go-home" defection from West Lakes.
Maric will have no regrets by his move to Richmond. It is a career-defining decision.
He has fulfilled his ambition to be a No. 1 ruckman. He would not have achieved this at Adelaide in the shadow of Sam Jacobs.
He has played every game at the Tigers.
Maric would not have had this record at Adelaide where playing second fiddle to Jacobs has become an intense internal race between Shaun McKernan and Essendon recruit Josh Jenkins.
Maric is a contender for the All-Australian line-up at the end of the year. He would not have been mentioned in such terms at Adelaide.
Maric and Jacobs today face each other across the centre circle at AAMI Stadium not as rivals in Crows training, but as key combatants in an AFL premiership game of high stakes, personal and team-wise.
The winner of the ruck duel takes the high ground for All-Australian selection.
The winner of the game is better-placed in the race to September's AFL finals.
Maric arrived in Adelaide as a third-round draft pick at the end of the 2004 season. At that stage the Crows had an established ruck battery with Matthew Clarke, Rhett Biglands and Ben Hudson.
Maric was in a development race with the rookie-listed Jon Griffin.
By the end of last season, Maric had outlasted them all but was still not No. 1. Clarke was in Adelaide's coaching panel, Biglands had a radio gig, Hudson was retiring at the Western Bulldogs and being called back to the AFL by Brisbane and Griffin was looking at leaving Fremantle to join Port Adelaide.
Maric felt crucified - and was outspoken - not by Adelaide's preference for Jacobs, but by the AFL's changes to the four-man interchange system. The move to a substitute among the four interchange seats sacrificed the second ruckman.
Unlike "future captain" Davis, Gunston and Tony Armstrong, who defected to Sydney, Maric is the only former Crow finding his potential as an AFL player is being fulfilled by the decision to change clubs.
He is the No. 1 at Tigerland.
Maric has numbers - and All-Australian prospects - he could have never imagined at West Lakes - not while living in Jacobs' shadow.
Maric ranks No. 2 for hit-outs with 372. Jacobs is No. 3 with 357. Melbourne ruckman Mark Jamar leads this category (418).
Maric is No. 2 for hit-outs to advantage with 100. Jacobs is No. 1 (108).
In field play, Maric today will surpass his season-high for disposals - 196 in 20 games with Adelaide in 2009. He has 193 in 12 games with Richmond this season.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick notes Maric's hands are counting for more than hit-outs.
This stood out to Hardwick in the Dreamtime game against Essendon at a rain-soaked MCG on May 19.
"The amount of times he took a crucial mark when we needed it and used the ball well was fantastic," said Hardwick.
If Maric takes seven marks today, he will equal his season-high of 62 in 21 games in 2010 with Adelaide.
"He's been a star," adds Hardwick. "He's been a high-calibre person, what he's delivering on the field is high-calibre also.
"He's been a very good player for us."
By the time Brenton Sanderson arrived at West Lakes as Adelaide's new coach - to be well briefed on Maric's strength of character - Maric was beyond second thoughts on leaving.
"I sat down with him and I was really keen for him to stay, but his mind had already been made up," Sanderson said.
"But a door shuts and another one opens, and we've given an opportunity to Jenkins and McKernan, who have been fantastic for us at different times this season."
For the record, Maric's trade to Richmond engineered Tom Lynch's arrival from St Kilda.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/cult-hero-maric-lets-it-flow/story-e6frf9jf-1226412772305
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Kill that tall red haired bugger mullet man . Red heads are terrified of the sun and mullets :p
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Maric is out apparently Gus in
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Maric is out apparently Gus in
Source or it didn't happen!
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Maric is out apparently Gus in
Source or it didn't happen!
Tiger land Tone on twitter
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Welcome back Beefy :bow :bow
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We're screwed.
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Source is not from the club, FYI.
But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...
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Source is not from the club, FYI.
But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...
Sounds like a premature adjudication to me >:(
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Source is not from the club, FYI.
But on paper it makes some sense to spare such a valuable horse
We shall see...
Sounds like a premature ejaculation to me >:(
Tigerland tone saying that they will be resting Ivan.
Would be stupid to do so.
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Confirmed on 3AW that Ivan Maric is OUT of the Richmond side today.
:(
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oh oh, chongo!
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Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?
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Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?
Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't who do you think :wallywink
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Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?
Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't who do you think :wallywink
sorry mate haven't paid much attention to the team this week.
Lift! tigra, lift! :banghead
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Who's in?
The big girl or the big pear?
Well considering Graham is up there and Browne isn't who do you think :wallywink
sorry mate haven't paid much attention to the team this week.
Lift! tigra, lift! :banghead
lol....my post was probably a bit harsh, sorry bro...
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I'm starting to wobble at the knees
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Too much estrogen in this thread
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Looks like Tarzan plays like a jane is in for Maric
Rfc
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FAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKK
CD will be wetting himself
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FAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKK
CD will be wetting himself
He heard the news last night and is currently trying to hitch a ride up there to see it in person ;) yes he also has wet pants :thumbsup
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Lol
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Da $kyz is fallin !!!!!
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Confirmed by RFCO on twitter just now. Ivan is officially out (as is Griffiths) :P
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Do we know why Maric is out? To get a rest? Looked pretty tired against Melbourne.
I hope theyre just resting Griffiths too, better not have a niggling calf injury for the rest of the year :/
We play our best with this team and we should still smash goldcoast.. Wont be happy with under 50 points.
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Season Over.
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griff was never gonna play.
maric interesting.
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I'm starting to wobble at the knees
Who rucks for GC :huh
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Zac Smth
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we've been riding Ivarn into the ground for weeks, should have brought in Gus a month earlier
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The issue with trading for a backup ruckman is its hard to sell to a player to sign for richmond and then play coburg is imaric is fit.
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Can I just say, Cotchin is a freak footballer.
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
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:lol
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
:lol easy tiger
ok maybe not Graham ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
:lol easy tiger
ok maybe not Graham ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma for a please explain re the poor maric man management
:lol
Bit calmer now.
Yeah, agree with that - if Maric was getting to a point of needing a break then maybe a better plan would have been to play a 2nd ruckman as a chop out for a few weeks instead of waiting until the 11th hour and dropping him. Derickx was never a viable option simply because he had done nothing at Coburg to suggest a senior spot was warranted. Graham and Browne on the other hand would have been 'in form' options to try and by playing with Maric then any damage done by their inclusion would have at least been minimised. Playing a serial offender like Graham one out was always going to be a massive risk and history shows that form to be spot on. He is simply not ever going to make it as an AFL capable player.
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
:lol easy tiger
ok maybe not Graham ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management
Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
:lol easy tiger
ok maybe not Graham ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management
Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap
its anyones guess who the support act should be ...Gus is next to useless, that is Derickx :help...perhaps post should be given a shot...everyone else has had a go..
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Highlighted the magnitude of the club's transformation under the big Croat.
Rest easy big fella we need you back out there soon.
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should have brought in Gus a month earlier
Really? If that useless piece of dog vomit ever ever ever dons our jumper again I will seriously consider never buying another membership. Talk about playing against 23 opposition - he was the most useless excuse for a ruckman I have ever seen and made it soooooooo f**king easy for the Gold Coast midfield to win it out of the middle time and time and time again. Anyone who tries to convince me that the useless streak of pelican poo has any ability, potential or future as an AFL footballer will only make themselves out to be the consummate fool. Cotchin and Deledio must feel like dragging the flogbag out the back of the sheds and punching the living crap out of the weak gutted, cross dressing girl.
/rant
:lol easy tiger
ok maybe not Graham ;D but another fulltime ruckman was needed, if that had of happened a month earlier Maric wouldnt have needed to be rested tonight due to being run into the ground all year... This sits fairly and squarely on the match committees shoulders, wish i was a journo, id be asking dimma publicly for a please explain re the poor maric man management
Ahh hello we dont have another full time ruckman, the other three are all crap
so whats ur solution? run maric into the ground so he needs a rest due to fatigue just 2 weeks after hes had a bye? Yeah thats good man management right there
We dont have much, but you make do with what youve got. You rotate brown, derickx, graham and post through there to give Maric a much needed chop out until one of them can stand up. If they dont, then we wear it on the chin bc we simply dont have the cattle - you dont run someone into the ground when you have options at coburg, look after your prized assets. Hello Jack Reiwoldt, taken him half a season to be able to start running out games with multiple leads, but no 5 off season ops didnt hurt him one iota.
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Is he playing against Norf/n0rt ??
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FWIW, there is merit both ways.
I guess The Claw is saying in principle that he wouldn't want to risk a second round pick every year on an unproven 26 yo player from another club and the opposing view was hey it worked, play on claw all is good in the world.
I think Hartley has earned the right for us to assume he knows more about any player than us and that recruiting or trading principles can be over turned with a fact based case to justify it.
History has proven that time and again.
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FWIW, there is merit both ways.
I guess The Claw is saying in principle that he wouldn't want to risk a second round pick every year on an unproven 26 yo player from another club and the opposing view was hey it worked, play on claw all is good in the world.
I think Hartley has earned the right for us to assume he knows more about any player than us and that recruiting or trading principles can be over turned with a fact based case to justify it.
History has proven that time and again.
Wash your mouth out Y&B. History has proved time and again that us on OER know more than anyone else in the footballing world about everything - just ask us! ;D
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beat me to it smokey ;D
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Rumours he will be a late withdrawal. Sure hope not, we wont stand a chance against them with graham
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Smokey is gonna poo his pants :lol
Can't wait until we belt these blokes. We should be beating them with Bill Nicholls in the ruck TBH
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Smokey is gonna poo his pants :lol
Can't wait until we belt these blokes. We should be beating them with Bill Nicholls in the ruck TBH
:help
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:lol
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If this rumour is true then Carlton will be forced to make 1 change. Betts will go into the ruck to free up Kruezer around the ground. :whistle
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Think you will find Betts will be sub and Geoffy will be promoted to ruck....just saying.
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Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead
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Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead
Not fom the ench he won't ;)
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Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead
Not fom the ench he won't ;)
Is he dead set the sub??
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Betts will kick his usual 4-5 match winning goals... :banghead
Not fom the ench he won't ;)
Is he dead set the sub??
Maybe ;)
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Ivan is playing :thumbsup. Apparently Gerard Healy was spreading the rumour today that big Ivan was going to miss :wallywink.
Betts in Carlton's starting 18 as well.
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Ivan got engaged to his girlfriend Erin during the week :clapping.
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Ivan got engaged to his girlfriend Erin during the week :clapping.
No wonder his groin is a bit sore.
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:lol
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Tried his guts out all night, great effort
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Tried hard yes but Kruezer beat him on the night.
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Big Ivan cotchin tuck and morris as far as hunger goes need to look at their genetic makeup and recruit likewise rest have the heart of a frozen chicken
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Big Ivan cotchin tuck and morris as far as hunger goes need to look at their genetic makeup and recruit likewise rest have the heart of a frozen chicken
Funny, I mentioned something similiar to a friend tonight...
If any game was going to be THE one to win, that was it. "Break the hoodoo" stuff k carlton
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Tried hard yes but Kruezer beat him on the night.
lol
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Save him for 2013. In for an op.
Bring back Ty Esler, David Honybun, Robert Schaefer, Steven McKee and Trent Knobel to each play a game in the five week good will ruckman tour.
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replace Jack Dyers statue with one of the big Cro !!
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yep lowered his colours tonight but he competes and thats what we got him for.
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put the big man out to pasture, dont want his groin to degenerate to chronic levels. Rest up and be ready for day 1 of preseason
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to do that spells a lot of pain and misery for the rest of the season.
are people ready to take that medicine?
I dont think so.......
unless they truly prefer to get beaten easily than losing close games.............
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to do that spells a lot of pain and misery for the rest of the season.
are people ready to take that medicine?
I dont think so.......
unless they truly prefer to get beaten easily than losing close games.............
Its been season over for weeks, if people would prefer to risk Ivan long term for a few meaningless dead rubbers then wow
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all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?
I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.
There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
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all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?
I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.
There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
100% right it would be a little girl biatchathon
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Unco > soft
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would prefer to see Ivan play out the season,however i fear we have worn the big fella into the ground ,purely because he has had very limited help in the ruck.
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all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?
I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.
There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
The club shouldnt be making decisions based on whether the supporter will bitch or not, it should be purely based on what is good for the club long term.
*not saying they do make decisions based on what the supporters will say, - well poo i hope they dont
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thats not what i'm saying tony.
if the club put ivan out to pasture, or generally put the cue in the rack, would you and any other supporter asking for this, also put the cue in the rack.
would you say, ok because we have taken this action i understand it greatly inceases our chance of some large losses and accept it when it happens.
or, would the moaning and bitching continue even though you got what you asked for?
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thats not what i'm saying tony.
if the club put ivan out to pasture, or generally put the cue in the rack, would you and any other supporter asking for this, also put the cue in the rack.
would you say, ok because we have taken this action i understand it greatly inceases our chance of some large losses and accept it when it happens.
or, would the moaning and bitching continue even though you got what you asked for?
what do u think mate? what have I been saying in the last few posts?
as for other supporters, yeah a fair few of them would be crying out for an execution, stiff poo, ppl must understand the implications of potentially ruining Ivans long term capabilities. And before anybody mentions they medical staff know what they're doing stuff off :wallywink
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sorry tony, but i cant see where you have answered the question in the last few posts, but I gather you are saying that you do understand and accept the short term consequence of what you ask for.
not necessarily aimed at you, but I notice that many of the posters who ask for the cue to go in the rack or to play kids that arent really ready and will give very little output onfield in the short term, seem to also be those that make the most noise when we loose. No consideration is given to the circumstances at all, just the simple fact we lost sends them off the deep end, yet they ask for things to happen that potentially ensure we will continue to lose, and perhaps lose worse than we have been.
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Thats fine al,
yeah there are some of those, but wgaf? club needs to do the right thing by the player, the team and the supporters by looking after their assets, not like they did with Jack last season.
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all im asking is are people prepared to watch graham take over and play soft or browne take over and play unco, and not squeal like bunnies when we get mauled?
I have no doubt that if maric was sent to pasture and we started getting some real beltings, something that hasnt really happened to this point, there is no way people would just accept it.
There would be so much moaning and bitching calling for the coach to shot etc, yet it would be a predictable result of what is being asked for.
if ivans injured and it can degenerate we should put him in moth balls.
time to play elton and derickx forward with jack. time to get a few more games into browne and see if hes improved at the level or not. time to leave ohanlon in the team, and its time to play adam maric for the rest of the yr. its time to get astbury into the team down back if hes fit.
it is time to drop long term underachievers who have no part in our future.
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I'm all for wrapping up Maric, but that means Graham comes in. I'm going to puke if that twit ever runs on again. Wouldn't mind seein where Browne is at but I assume not far since he can't even crack the emergencies and gets thrown in the magoo twos. :'(
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Maric in cotton will.
Play Browne for the rest of the year.
Graham is contracted next year so whether he plays or not is academic as unless he is traded or we let Dan Connors near him and he misses training then he's here for 2013 lamentably.
The way I see it let Browne ruck in the last five games regardless as he aint contracted beyond this season just to determine whether the kid can cut the mustard so as we can make a more clear cut decision on his future.
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The fact that some people have even the slightest hope in Browne is indicative of our
state of delusion
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The fact that some people have even the slightest hope in Browne is indicative of our
state of delusion
LOl Yep only slightly better than the KICP
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I didnt think kreuzer beat him at all.thought big Ivan more than held his own
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Wrap him up now and see if someone can put their hand up!
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Hopefully big Ivan moving about more freely last night is a sign that he is getting over that groin injury he's been nursing through the second half of the season.
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Back on topic, can we please get Maric out and bring Beefy in this week?
X 2
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Did our season go with Foley or Ivans Groin starting to wonder
Was great again last night that Cotchin rove from the tap was gold
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This bloke is an absolute Star. Best mature recruit to the RFC for as long as I can remember - and that's a long time.
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I'm really worried about him getting a haircut next year! Seriously not joking!
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Best trade we have ever done.
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i love this man.
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$5 on the nose for B&F
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Dominant ruck display. Great goal too
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i have to put my hand up and say i did not want to use pick 35 on this bloke. hes been a still at that pick to date.
i firmly believe we have to find his replacement this nd or the following one. 27 in january means we may only get 3 maybe 4 good yrs out of ivan and we need to be getting his eventual replacement up to speed now that mat take 4 or 5 seasons.always think long term.
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Agree Claw and whilst Vickery can play in the forward line and give a chop out in the ruck we need to either trade for a second string ruckman or bring Browne in to see what he can provide.
I'd say someone of the ilk of Renouf whilst no world beater would just do a job that at worst would still be better than Graham's best.
Even so we have lumbering ruckmen atm with Ivan and Browne and Vickery is your mobile option I would say another mobile ruckman might be the go.
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The great man needs assistance
Gelded Gus no help
Bo Derrickx a chance
Brown we lose every where else on the ground bc of speed differentiation
The Tyronosuarus is still young and in development
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I actually think a fit Vicks would provide the help Ivan needs .so i would hold off recruiting another mature age ruckman ,but would rather draft a promising youngster.But i would certainly ditch Gus and derriks.
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This bloke is an absolute Star. Best mature recruit to the RFC for as long as I can remember - and that's a long time.
Maxwell said on AFL Game Day on 7 that one of the 3 things he learnt watching Giants v Port was that Giles was the best recruit of the year.
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In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
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In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
:thumbsup yep maybe even Griff giving vikery a chop out
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In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
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In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
Jesse white
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They thing is ruckman take time.
Even maric was not a world beater at Tyrone current age
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Dimma talking about big Ivan (from SNF)...
Hardwick also revealed that influential big ruck force Ivan Maric has carried lingering soreness for at least a month, but was significantly freer against the Lions to emerge one of the Tigers best in the morale boosting win.
Maric, 26, has been one of the AFL’s feel-good revelations of the 2012 season with his switch from Adelaide to Tigers enforcer around stoppages and packs.
He is likely to be an All-Australian selection nominee with an average of 33 hitouts a game as well as around an impressive 16 disposals an outing in leading the Tigers’ potentially imposing on-ball battery.
“He’s been really sore over the last month,” Hardwick declared of his big ruckman.
“It’s probably the first time he’s looked a little bit free and covered the ground a little bit better.
“I was really pleased with his input.”
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/08/06/hardwick-won-t-give-up-on-finals/
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Big Ivan is No. 1 in the comp. for total hitouts :thumbsup
1. Ivan Maric (Richmond) 557
2. Will Minson (Western Bulldogs) 546
3. Sam Jacobs (Adelaide) 527
3. Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) 527
5. Darren Jolly (Collingwood) 440
6. Dean Cox (West Coast) 433
7. Mark Jamar (Melbourne) 425
8. Trent West (Geelong) 420
9. Nic Natanui (West Coast) 410
10. David Hale (Hawthorn) 393
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/143764/default.aspx
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Big Ivan is No. 1 in the comp. for total hitouts :thumbsup
1. Ivan Maric (Richmond) 557
2. Will Minson (Western Bulldogs) 546
3. Sam Jacobs (Adelaide) 527
3. Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) 527
5. Darren Jolly (Collingwood) 440
6. Dean Cox (West Coast) 433
7. Mark Jamar (Melbourne) 425
8. Trent West (Geelong) 420
9. Nic Natanui (West Coast) 410
10. David Hale (Hawthorn) 393
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/143764/default.aspx
Will he be AA?
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Looks like he will have a good challenge aahead of him in will minson this weekend.
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In theory post-ivan you could play riewoldt. Griffiths. Elton fwd. Vickery ruck.
if vickery is to ever make it as a ruckman and i have real doubts he will be a josh fraser type rather than a jolley maric kruezer or ottens type. gotta have that real big mobile super strong ruckman imo and tyrone aint that.
ruckmen are a funny breed they think pain is fun i dont see that in vickery quite the opposite.
imo his best chance is as a key forward, he will have some real opposition for a spot in the team if a couple of elton griffiths astbury and post ever come good.
Jesse white
would be well worth a try.
hes got talent but has never really managed to put it on display very regularly. a lot like ivan before this yr i suppose.
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White has no mongrel and lacks intensity. Ivan has balls of steal.
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I found this on the tube... All Australian for Big Ivan? Surely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbT5zqVv6qE
"A tribute to Ivan Maric, the Australian Rules footballer who crossed from the Adelaide Crows to the Richmond Tigers for the start of the 2012 season, a move that resurrected his career. Since his move to the Tigers, Big Ivan has sported a mullet, the iconic haircut of the working class cult hero, a role that Maric has effortlessly filled in his time at Richmond. A true leader of the Tiger Army".
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Own up, you made it :lol
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Can't believe they got Collingwood supporters to dress up as Tigers fans :lol
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Own up, you made it :lol
Who can tell? Maybe we'll never know. Couldn't possibly be as bad as the shameless cross-promotion the commercial television networks partake in.
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Own up, you made it :lol
Who can tell? Maybe we'll never know. Couldn't possibly be as bad as the shameless cross-promotion the commercial television networks partake in.
:cheers
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(https://p.twimg.com/A2BgsE-CMAA6Xhz.jpg)
If the mullet is going next year this may be worth something in the future ;D
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Does anyone who he was peeed off with on the weekend . Boy oh Boy i would of asked for a security escort to the car and had the bomb squad check the car if i was that player
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Does anyone who he was peeed off with on the weekend . Boy oh Boy i would of asked for a security escort to the car and had the bomb squad check the car if i was that player
I think it was Logan.
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Thx mate :)
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If Ivan got AA how come Gus didnt
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If Ivan got AA how come Gus didnt
Got picked for the All In side instead
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I like how last week he said to a Port player, "You weak (insert unforgivable c-word,here) -I'll stuffen kill ya!" and punched his hand!
Sta Radis,Ivan ??
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reminded me of sheeds and white
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Andie Hensley @AndieHensley twitter:
"Just saw vision of Ivan confirming his wedding isn't until end of next season! Which means the mullet remains for another year #mulletpower"
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Oh yesss he's gunna end up like Greg Anderson big man :clapping
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"Big Ivan" - by Matthew McKenzie - Channel 7 AFL - Tribute to Ivan Maric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbT5zqVv6qE
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The mullet was back at training today :thumbsup
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7ySQflCcAA9rqE.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/269250889779408896/photo/1
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Cult hero Ivan Maric is Richmond's mane man
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
December 07, 2012 10:30PM
IVAN Maric stood at the microphone.
The rugged ruckman had just finished third in his first Jack Dyer Medal count when he delivered the words that make football fans melt.
"The way the playing group has welcomed me to this football club has made me feel like I was always meant to come here and wear this jumper," Maric told the Richmond faithful at Crown Palladium.
It was the humble full-stop to a remarkable debut season in yellow and black. A season that silenced critics, shocked supporters and surprised even Maric.
As the plaudits flowed throughout the year and the mullet-inspired cult following grew to epic proportions, the softly spoken big man remained largely silent.
Just over 12 months since he walked in the door at Punt Rd, Maric offered the Herald Sun a candid insight into the most remarkable year of his football life.
The former Adelaide ruckman was traded by the Crows to the Tigers for pick 37 in the 2011 draft after playing only six games in 2011. It wasn't the sort of form that screamed blossoming talent.
And Maric admitted 2012 started in a cloud of doubt.
"When I was training all through pre-season I was fighting demons," he said.
"Always that thought would pop into my head; 'Was I good enough?' and I questioned myself. But I suppose that happens to every player. It was just a matter of persisting.
"I didn't know how it was going to turn out, but when I met with (Richmond coach) Damien (Hardwick), I'm not sure what it was, but something about it felt right, like it was the right move and we established a connection straight away.
"You have to believe in your ability and I think that's really important if you want to achieve anything. For me, I got a lot of enjoyment out of last season, playing the way I played because that's how I want to play footy."
Maric has the great characteristic that endears players to supporters. He plays with heart.
The 26-year-old will never be a ruckman blessed with freakish athletic talents. But what the Tigers got in exchange for that late 30s draft pick was a player with truckloads of desire and one who thrives on hard work and a team-first environment.
"You can't really market me like other players in the competition, like a Lance Franklin or something like that," Maric said with a laugh.
"I'm just what you see is what you get. I love that mateship and the strong bonds you build with teammates through the hard work that you do."
Richmond assistant coach and Port Adelaide premiership ruckman Brendon Lade said Maric just needed a chance.
"Ruckmen take a little bit longer to develop as everyone knows and most of them just need an opportunity to play and to have a crack at being the No.1 ruck," Lade said.
"We thought if we gave him an opportunity he could flourish and he was almost an All-Australian because of it. He's had a big impact, especially on the midfield group."
Richmond last season won a centre bounce clearance 47.5 per cent of the time Maric was involved - ranked No.1 of the top-10 centre bounce ruckmen in the AFL. He made the All-Australian squad of 40 and, according to some, was stiff not to make the final 22.
The wrecking ball to Richmond's silk-laden midfield was quickly elevated to cult hero status - complete with mullet mania.
It's difficult to recall a traded player so immediately loved and respected by the Tiger army.
Maric sheepishly admits the hype was "big", but it's clear he's uncomfortable.
"I suppose that attention, I don't really like it," he said.
"I like and appreciate people recognising that I was playing my role and that's a good part of it.
"But I just really wanted to stay focused on what I needed to do each week and that was to play well. I didn't want to get caught up in everything that was happening.
"You can't control how people see you and who they like and dislike and things like that. I really wanted to make sure I was getting all my positive feedback from my coaches and teammates and not so much from the TV and the newspapers and stuff like that."
So positive was the feedback from his colleagues that Maric was voted into the club's six-man leadership group during last week's pre-season camp in Cairns.
In typical Maric style, he's not likely to get carried away by the honour.
"I just want to make sure it doesn't change anything about me or how I go about it in regards to training and setting standards around the footy club," he said.
"They voted me in for how I acted last season so I don't want to change that. I want to keep improving and building relationships with the guys and supporting the other leaders."
Maric has made a slower start to the pre-season than he would like, after he was bothered by soft-tissue problems towards the end of last season.
"I'm feeling good. I'm just taking a bit longer to ease into training because I was really battling towards the end of the year with my groin," he said.
"So I'm just really trying to strengthen everything up so these problems don't happen. I didn't have an operation, it was more rest and rehabilitation."
Lade said the club would give Maric all the time he needed to get right.
"We're not going to push him at all. We pushed him last year to play some games when we probably should have rested him and with (Tyrone) Vickery going down that hurt Ivan more than anyone," Lade said.
"He gets a bit worried that he's not training and not doing what he needs to get his body right, but we know he works hard and when he does get back into training he'll be up and going."
And when he is, Maric will set about building a better understanding with Richmond's growing band of influential onballers, something he admitted has proven more difficult than at Adelaide.
"It's been a bit harder only because of the fact that we've got so many good midfielders.
"At Adelaide 'Thommo' (Scott Thompson) was the really dominant midfielder and he wanted the ball all the time and you'd build that relationship really quickly and you've seen that with Sam Jacobs and Scott who've done that really well," he said.
"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.
"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.
"I don't know, I suppose it goes back to how they are as a playing group and how welcoming they are - they really make you feel comfortable. I think that reflects on the field in the relationships around the stoppages. I believe that's really important."
Maric recently returned with teammates from the Cairns camp firm in the belief that the foundations are in place at Punt Rd to finally take that next step - finals.
But he doesn't want to tempt fate, and for a player who has only been a Tiger for a year, he's grown tired of talk about September droughts and crushed expectations.
"Look, we've got the players, we've got the talent, we've got a few more mature recruits in Chris Knights, Troy Chaplin and Aaron Edwards and that's really strengthened our list," Maric said.
"We've got it, but it's all about doing it now and just putting our heads down, training hard and wanting it.
"And it's about doing it on game day. I've only been here 12 months and I'm sick of hearing how every year it's the same thing.
"I just don't want to be part of a group that didn't achieve anything or didn't have finals success."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/cult-hero-ivan-maric-is-richmonds-mane-man/story-e6frf9jf-1226532386660
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That is just about the best RFC related interview for the year.
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"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.
"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.
anything to be read into no mention of Martin?
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"Shane Tuck, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are probably the one's I've got the best understanding with. I spend the most time with those guys.
"But it's really funny, Reece Conca will come in for five minutes here and there and I'll have a good understanding with him and Shane Edwards as well and he's hardly ever in there.
anything to be read into no mention of Martin?
Yes, runs his own race.
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Cut the mullet it's not the 80s anymore
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Best "recruit" since Ian Stewart.
Not that i,m biased or anything.
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Let's just see in 2013 how the Croatian plays.
Richmond's problem has always been a player having a great first season and not being consistent in his second year.
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First season was outstanding. Has a very good attitude. Needs to back it up next year if we are to have a chance of playing finals footy
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Ivan Maric - Taking care of business
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 10 Dec, 2012
Unsurprisingly, Ivan Maric has taken a modest, level-headed approach to his recent appointment to the Richmond playing leadership group after just one year at the Club.
Maric’s Tiger teammates had no hesitation in voting the big-hearted ruckman into the group on the back of his inspirational efforts throughout the 2012 season, which culminated in him finishing third in the Jack Dyer Medal.
It’s a deserved honor for the ex-Crow, but one he clearly intends taking in his stride . . .
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152262/default.aspx
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The Herald-Sun today voted Ivan recruit of the year :thumbsup
1. IVAN MARIC (Richmond)
It was the big man’s mullet that grabbed our attention in the NAB Cup when the Tigers unveiled their star recruit. Not long after, it was his football that did all the talking. The former Crow dragged the Tigers home several times during their early win bonanza, with Damien Hardwick clapping his hands red at Maric’s ruck dominance and work around the ground. It was no wonder new Crows coach Brenton Sanderson tried to keep Maric, who fell out with Neil Craig, with the lion-hearted 26-year-old racking up 652 hit-outs. He’ll play his 100th game in Round 2 and based on 2012 Tigers fans have a lot to get excited about looking towards his next 100.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/countdown-top-10-rivalries/story-e6frf9jf-1226543117674
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Ivan the Great
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Monday, December 31, 2012
In just one season with Richmond, Ivan Maric has blossomed into one of the premier ruckmen of the competition.
He thrived on the opportunity presented to him by the Tigers, after being traded by the Adelaide Crows in October 2011, following only 77 games in six seasons with them.
It was a match made in football heaven...the strongly-built, aggressive big man, with a real appetite for the contest, sporting that now famous, flowing mullet, teams up with the passionate, proud, loud Tiger Army, who have long had a penchant for cult figures.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-31/ivan-the-great
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Big Ivan taking on the AFL Players' febfast Challenge ...
https://aflfebfast2013.everydayhero.com/au/ivan-maric
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Marvellous Maric
By richmondfc.com.au
Tuesday, March 12, 2013
“He’s a leader in his own right, been elevated to our leadership group, and is a player that’s just got an aura around him. Our players love playing with him." - Hardwick told Fox Sports.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-12/marvellous-maric
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Richmond’s No. 1 ruckman Ivan Maric could be a weapon up forward for the Tigers at times this season . . .
That’s the opinion of Tiger goalkicking great, Matthew Richardson, who feels Maric has the necessary attributes to cause big headaches for opposition backlines.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-21/maric-can-add-bite-to-tiger-attack
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So many quality part time fwds inc maric, dusty, cotch, lids etc yet we keep kicking to jack when hes double and triple teamed. Would love to see Eevan kick 2 or 3 a game :thumbsup
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My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.
Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.
HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths
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My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.
Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.
HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths
:gobdrop
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My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.
Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.
HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths
Okay by that theory Bents you are expecting our B graders to actually get the ball out of the middle against the likes of Pendlebury, Swan, Ablett, Dangerfield, Boyd, Watson....need I go on?
thats like putting 18 inch rims, hotdog and full sports kit on a Daewoo Matiz.
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expecting our B graders to actually get the ball out of the middle against the likes of Pendlebury, Swan, Ablett, Dangerfield, Boyd, Watson....need I go on?
thats like putting 18 inch rims, hotdog and full sports kit on a Daewoo Matiz.
Foley and Tuck are two of our better inside midfielders so it is not as unrealistic as you allude to. We only require these two to be fit and play well and then the option of allowing our best players to be more attacking comes into consideration. One of; Knights/Ellis/Helbig/Newman/Morris/Aarnot/Conca etc. will ( :pray) fill the void.
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foley lmao
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:huh :huh
My theory is our b graders should be at least good enough to break even.
Hence we should play our best in the forward line. Worth it just for the deledio-cotchin interaction.
HF: Deledio - Riewoldt - Cotchin
FF: Martin - Maric - Vickery/Griffiths
:huh :huh
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foley lmao
What are u laughing at?
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Big Ivan will play his 100th game on Friday night :clapping
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Big Ivan will play his 100th game on Friday night :clapping
:clapping
Hope he can get 100 Richmond games up too.
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Hard work takes big Tiger Maric to 100 games
By Jennifer Phelan
10:30am AEDT
Thursday, April 4, 2013
IVAN Maric will reach 100 games this Friday night against St Kilda, just over a season after he left Adelaide to become what many have described as Richmond's missing link.
The big man with the big mullet will reach his first big milestone at the MCG in front of the supporters who have so heartily embraced him since he became a Tiger in the 2011 trade period.
It's something the quietly spoken 27-year-old said was an achievement made all the more significant by how hard the game was to play consistently.
"I knew it was going to be hard work to get to 100 games; especially after playing your first one you realise that 99 more is actually really hard work," Maric told AFL.com.au.
"It's a good personal achievement. It's something that I'll look back and be proud of at the end of my career.
"At the moment, I just want to be part of a winning team, which is what I enjoy the most."
Maric appeared on the Tigers' radar when he was struggling to get a game at Adelaide under Neil Craig in 2011.
He fit the club's requirements for a physical and experienced ruckman, and was open to a move back to his hometown of Melbourne.
"We saw a spot that needed filling and we thought he could fill it, and I suppose the rest is history at the moment," Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade said.
"[Our opposition analyst] Blair Hartley watched a lot of him over at the Port Magpies.
"He was doing a lot of things right over there but was not getting a game at Adelaide because of Sam Jacobs.
"As a club, we were probably struggling for [players] that age he came in at, that 25 to 26, 27-year-old.
"We targeted some players in that area and he was one of them and he's definitely shown some good leadership in his first year."
Maric was traded to Richmond at the end of that season after six years at Adelaide, where he played 77 games.
In a remarkable result, he finished third in the best and fairest in his first season as a Tiger, after playing 21 games in 2012.
He was promoted to the new-look leadership group in November last year, led by Trent Cotchin and consisting of vice-captain Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Jackson and Dylan Grimes.
His impact among the group has been profound; not just as a player and what he's done, but in that key leadership area.
Maric says leadership is "just in me, I suppose", but acknowledges his promotion to the group has been a highlight of his time at the club so far.
"It is good, I suppose … that they appreciate what I have to say and that sort of stuff," he said.
Lade said Maric had improved his around the ground ability since coming to Punt Road but believed they had only "begun to scratch the surface" of what he was capable of.
"When he came here, we just wanted to tidy up a few areas we thought we could help him with," Lade said.
"He's not one of the tallest ruckmen going around so he needs to be able to have an impact around the ground and we think he's improved in that area and helps the defence out when he can.
"His competitiveness around the ground has been outstanding.
"He's had a big impact. We've been pretty impressed with what he's done so far and we think he can still get better still and improve himself and the team even further."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-04/big-milestone-for-big-mullet
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Big Ivvy :bow :cheers :clapping
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
McEvoy can console himself with at least beating Ivan like Kruz did last week. The Big Iv will be too busy singing the theme song and doing a lap of honour high fiving the fans. :lol
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night. Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt. :banghead
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night. Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt. :banghead
Have thought the same thing for a while. The guy is a flog. It's all about BT, thinks he's the show. Did you hear him groan into the mic then admonish that toddler's effort at tossing the coin on Thursday night? Wanker. Hate how he asks the special comments blokes for opinions then spends the next 5 minutes belittling the comments. Can't stand the prick. When you've become a bigger flog than Dwayne Russell it's time to reassess.
"Human meatball" ::)
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
No shame being beaten by kruz. He is a gun.
Maric will do well vs saints.
BryanTaylor is indeed a twit
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night. Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt. :banghead
Have thought the same thing for a while. The guy is a flog. It's all about BT, thinks he's the show. Did you hear him groan into the mic then admonish that toddler's effort at tossing the coin on Thursday night? Wanker. Hate how he asks the special comments blokes for opinions then spends the next 5 minutes belittling the comments. Can't stand the prick. When you've become a bigger flog than Dwayne Russell it's time to reassess.
"Human meatball" ::)
Lol at human meatball. Isn't that racist to call a little wog a meatball? Guy gets away with it every game. :lol
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Geez that was getting under my skin listening to BT parrot on with it every time he went near the ball on Sat night. Wish he would just commentate the game and stop his p-poor attempts to be the new Rex Hunt. :banghead
worst commentator going around. The only thing good about him is his love for the Tigers
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BIG BOY MCEVOY
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Eat'em alive Crazyman. :gotigers
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Ivan Maric a huge part of the revival at Punt Road
by: Greg Denham
From: The Australian
April 05, 2013
THE resurgence of Richmond can't be put down to just one man, but the impact of Ivan Maric's arrival from the Crows last season has been profound.
If Richmond beats St Kilda tonight at the MCG, it will be the first time since 1997 that the Tigers have won their first two games of the season. Not a huge achievement, but a big deal for the Tigers.
If they win, following the drought-breaking first-up win over Carlton, no player will be adored as much by the Richmond faithful than cult hero Maric, who will play his 100th senior game.
The fact it will be just the no-frills big man's 23rd game for the Tigers will be of no concern for fans as Maric, 27, has been a huge part of the revival at Punt Road.
Maric finished third in the club's best-and-fairest award last year after 21 games, with 652 hit-outs and an average of 16 disposals. His impact has been extraordinary and it was no surprise he was elevated to the Tigers' leadership group this year alongside new captain Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Jackson and Dylan Grimes.
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Let's hope Big Boy McEvoy doesn't destroy him like the Kruz did
Must be :fishing
bc Ive watched the replay twice and at the most, he just got shaded with that dropped mark in the goal square giving Kruz a TKO.
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Nah Kruz was by far the best ruckman on the ground. Maric was below par in the last quarter. Tapped it straight to a Scum player who goaled, dropped a sitter which cost us a goal and didn't do much to stop Kruz flying for his grabs. Had that been Big O we'd be calling for his execution
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Congratulations to him. Need a big game from him against the Saints
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coach's new thing:
opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED
:shh
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coach's new thing:
opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED
:shh
Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed
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coach's new thing:
opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED
:shh
Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed
Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.
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coach's new thing:
opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED
:shh
Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed
Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.
did he get 1 more hitout than kruz
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coach's new thing:
opponent gets 1 more disposal than richmond player = richmond player DESTROYED
:shh
Well it is better than Goose getting 3 more disposals than his opponent and that = death. Maric was below par, surely you admit that. I also love saying destroy/destroyed
Destroyed the scum in the centre did big Ivvy.
did he get 1 more hitout than kruz
richmond centre clearances 41 - carlton 25
KRUZ DESTROYED
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hey you lied, kruz got 2 more possies than ivvy. he also took 3 contested marks and ivvy only took 3 marks all night (dropping sitter didnt count lololol)
yesssssssssssss
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I made the centre clearance stats up too lmao
:fishing
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yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Bit worried about the big fella, don't think he is playing at the same level he was last year and we got stuff all options to replace him, ty is inconsistent and the Big o is not up to top level
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Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.
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Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.
never had a full preseason and it shows
4 weeks he will be right but needs a run in the 2's
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Looks unfit and possibly too big, needs to trim down a bit for mine.
never had a full preseason and it shows
4 weeks he will be right but needs a run in the 2's
Ah yes! Forgot about that. Two more games will see him come ok. :thumbsup
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As long as its just conditioning then Im not too fussed, just hope its not the groin flaring up already
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Tony the apparent lack of conditioning is probably due to his groin problems of last season.From what i understand the club had the option of surgery but decided against it.just hope they chose the right option
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Lets hope mate, bc we're stuffed if he has to hobble around for the rest of the season
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If his injured don't expect to hear about it until he..
a) tears his groin and does 10x more damage than he already has
b) he goes under the knife at the end of the year and misses another pre season
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Surely they'd be onto it if there was a problem.
Looked as if he trained yesterday so can't be too many concerns.
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Looked to be jumping well yesterday
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Looked to be jumping well yesterday
Who against.Nahas?
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Long season, his prep is geared to have him firing in the back half when we'll really need him
A few others in this boat ;)
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A few others in this boat ;)
Just hope that's not the sort of boat that's heading to NZ that ends up in Geraldton WA ;D
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Just hope it has a paddle :shh
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Just hope it has a paddle :shh
:lol
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Looked to be jumping well yesterday
Who against.Nahas?
A tackling bag, ;D
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Whats up with the big fella?
Dont get me wrong, He was far from our worst and i'm not blaming for the loss, but....
In each game he has made crucial mistakes at crucial times, and more importantly doesn't seem to be playing with the same intensity he did last year.
When he took that intercept mark late in the second his first instinct seemed to be to hand off. He never looked confident and subsequently sprayed what should have been a gimme goal.
something seems amiss with the big croat. wheres that mongrel he bought to the side last year?
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Thought he started reasonably well, that miss was ordinary..a real dolly....faded out of the game..agreed he isn't asserting himself, hudson is a respectable player though....not overly worried....yet
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he is out of form.. his disposal this year has been shocking
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yep is making a couple of mindboggling unforced errors each game. Has been well below his best this season so far
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Whats up with the big fella?
Dont get me wrong, He was far from our worst and i'm not blaming for the loss, but....
In each game he has made crucial mistakes at crucial times, and more importantly doesn't seem to be playing with the same intensity he did last year.
When he took that intercept mark late in the second his first instinct seemed to be to hand off. He never looked confident and subsequently sprayed what should have been a gimme goal.
something seems amiss with the big croat. wheres that mongrel he bought to the side last year?
Good post is not the same player as last year
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Playing sore me thinks ;)
Am I allowed to do that? Using one of these :)
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Playing sore me thinks ;)
Sure looks like it.
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Playing sore me thinks ;)
Am I allowed to do that? Using one of these :)
Agreed thought that silly free kick he gave away in the first turned the push in the back on the Members wing turned the tide when we were 13-0 up.
Does not have the same impact and oomph if I can say that as he did last season.
The mind does not seem to be as strong and willing as we saw last year either.
Slow cumbersome lethargic and bereft of confidence and the on field aura he had last year.
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And yet is still an upgrade on every option we had prior to his joining the club.
Until yesterday, I thought he was slowly improving each round, hopefully yesterday was a hiccup or a burp.
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isn't he recovering from a groin injury or surgery on it or something? Could be still cruelling his flow.
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isn't he recovering from a groin injury or surgery on it or something? Could be still cruelling his flow.
Yep owl had a restricted preseason due to a groin problem, believe it is an OP like issue
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If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.
we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?
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If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.
we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?
We will play him like we did Foley, until he breaks down..
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The many sides of Ivan Maric
By Jennifer Phelan
AFL Record
Round 3, April 19-21
“I just want to come in and have an impact straight away, be pretty vocal, which I’m quite comfortable doing, and be a leader on the track … I want to drag others along and maybe set some new standards. I’m really excited about that. I just want to come in and be myself.”
It was hardly a world-shattering statement at the time he arrived at Punt Road – October, 2011 – but those words seem prophetic when assessing the impact Ivan Maric has made at Richmond.
He was back in his hometown of Melbourne, having signed a three-year deal, and was sporting the beginnings of the mullet that would lengthen and help catapult him to cult-hero status within a matter of months.
Fast-forward to April 2013 and it is hard to imagine he was not always a Tiger.
Quite simply, Maric could not have had a bigger impact on the group – in a playing and leadership sense – in his 24 games in yellow and black.
He placed third in last year’s Jack Dyer Medal – behind Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio – and in his acceptance speech, said he felt like he had always been meant to wear a Richmond jumper.
Players and coaches echoed that sentiment by voting the former Adelaide ruckman into the leadership group two months later.
Maric’s positive influence and his popularity saw him join Dylan Grimes as new additions to the six-man group led by Cotchin.
It meant a lot to the softly-spoken big man with the most talked-about locks in the competition.
It resonated with those goals he outlined when he first became a Tiger, and proved to him how much his new teammates valued his direction.
“It is good, I suppose, that they appreciate what I have to say,” Maric says.
“It’s just sort of in me, I suppose. It’s how I was brought up, I have a good family and it’s how my family is – we care for each other.”
That family is “huge”, according to Maric, starting with his siblings – Lucie, 28, and Mark, 24, and his Croatian-born parents, Ivan and Stefanie.
Growing up in Keilor in Melbourne’s north, the Maric kids learned Croatian before English and dedicated plenty of time to sport. Ivan senior played soccer for St Albans – the club where Maric is now No. 1 ticketholder – and the kids always had a hand in some activity.
It wasn’t until a 2009 trip to Croatia that Maric realised just how far his extended family stretched.
It was the first time his parents had been back since migrating to Australia – Ivan from the town of Komletinci and Stefanie from Ðurdenovac – and it was a five-week trip around the country that involved plenty of family reunions.
"It was a special feeling. I can’t explain it,” Maric says.
“To know where you come from and to see the houses your family was born in and the villages they grew up in, the graves of your grandparents you never met.
“You meet your aunties and uncles and cousins. You find out who you are.”
To Richmond supporters, Maric is a bullocking, physical ruckman who has changed the shape of the Tigers’ midfield. It wasn’t always destined to be that way.
Basketball was Maric’s chosen sport in his adolescence, having started at the age of nine and when he was bigger than all the other kids.
He dabbled in soccer and Australian Football at school, but it was hoops and the Keilor Basketball Club that captured his attention until he was 16.
Maric’s days at Keilor’s Overnewton College centred around what he did at lunchtime – and that was sport. Somehow he managed all three during the break, but as he neared the end of his education, it was Australian Football that stood out.
Maric’s mates, who were mainly Essendon supporters and had influenced him to follow suit, urged him to take his football further.
Encouraged by AFL players with Croatian heritage such as Glen Jakovich, Alan Didak and Ilija Grgic, Maric found himself at Keilor Football Club trying to get a game.
Maric thought he was a better basketballer than footballer, but persevered anyway. It took just 12 games before he caught the eye of scouts and was invited to train with TAC Cup club Calder Cannons.
“I thought I’d go down and see what it was like,” Maric says.
“I stood out because of my height and, then when I started training at Calder, I was always pretty good at running so I’d stand out there.”
Football didn’t come as naturally to Maric and he became frustrated. In his second season at the Cannons, he almost quit.
“I was so serious about basketball and I just thought, ‘Oh, this footy thing … I don’t know’. On the basketball court, I’d never make mistakes and I’d play really well and then I’d go out on the footy field and make mistakes and everyone would be telling you off and giving you feedback,” he says.
“I sort of couldn’t handle that. I was thinking, ‘Why am I doing this?’”
Maric got over it. He continued to play, continued to impress, and was drafted by the Crows with selection No. 40 in the 2004 NAB AFL Draft.
He left his family and moved to Adelaide to begin a seven-year stretch that resulted in 77 games and the further honing of the competitive streak he had always possessed.
There were always other big guys at the Crows to contend with. Early on, it was Matthew Clarke – who became a significant mentor – and Rhett Biglands. Then Jonathon Griffin, Ben Hudson and John Meesen. Then Brad Moran, Kurt Tippett and James Sellar provided rivalry, before the recruitment of Sam Jacobs for 2011 tightened competition yet again.
It was not always easy for Maric. At times, he was considered the No. 1 ruckman at Adelaide, but there was always a backdrop that he needed to fight for his spot. In his eyes, that was OK.
“I look back and it has made me work harder and more determined to be good, to be the best,” he says.
“It was good for me. I was so lucky to have that competition at the club for so long.”
Griffin (now at Fremantle) and former Richmond (and now Crows) ruckman Angus Graham, whom Maric viewed as tough competition at Punt Road, are two he still considers good friends.
It is relationships like these forged through sport Maric cherishes most.
Former Crow and new Tiger Chris Knights is another close mate. They lived together for more than four years in Adelaide and Knights introduced Maric to Erin – the woman he is set to marry on November 3 at an Adelaide Hills winery.
Maric played a big part in Knights’ move to Richmond last year. He told coach Damien Hardwick the midfielder wanted to return to Melbourne and was worth considering.
“They had to come to an agreement and the coach had to like him, and I just said, ‘Look, he’s interested, he’ll come and he doesn’t want to come for money, he wants to come and be part of a team’,” Maric says.
“It worked out really well for both of us.”
Fitting in at a new club and adjusting to different surroundings is a challenge, and it was assistant coach Brendon Lade who helped Maric’s transition.
The former Port Adelaide ruckman and his wife Sarah made sure Maric and Erin felt welcome early on, hosting them often for dinner. That has since become a regular occurrence and the couples are good friends.
Lade said Maric could easily come across as a “bit reserved” in an initial meeting, but never took long to become well liked. “He’s probably a bit measured in his approach in talking to people,” Lade says.
“He does take a while to probably make a friend, but once he’s friends with you, he’s a very genuine friend and would do a lot of things for you.
“He would fit into any group really easily. The boys love him, they love what he brings to the table, his competiveness and what he can do around the ground and his will to win.”
So well liked is Maric, AAMI Stadium ground staff were thrilled to see him back in Adelaide in round 14 last year when the Tigers faced the Crows.
At a training session before the game, one staff member wrote “Welcome back Ivan” on a cone cordoning off the centre circle. Maric was rapt.
He arrived at Richmond with commendable rucking ability, having worked closely with the Crows ruck coach Clarke for four years.
It was his ability around the ground the Tigers wanted to develop. With the help of Lade and triple Brisbane Lions premiership player and Tiger assistant coach Justin Leppitsch, Maric made inroads in that area last year.
“He’s not one of the tallest ruckmen going around so he needs to be able to have an impact around the ground,” Lade said. “We think he’s improved in that area and helps the defence out when he can. His competitiveness around the ground has been outstanding.”
Maric, who recently played his 100th AFL game, always wanted to be an “aggressive ruckman, one that people hate to play against”.
Learning from Lade and Leppitsch has helped his development and has meant he is more than just a strong tap ruckman.
“They were imposing figures when they played,” Maric says.
“That’s what I want to do. I want to play like they played. I’ve worked on my marking and it improved last year and I want to keep improving it.
“Teammates love it when ruckmen take marks so that’s definitely got a fair bit to do with it.”
Away from football, Maric is a big family man. He is a practising Roman Catholic and goes to church, visits his parents in Gisborne and spends plenty of time at St Albans Soccer Club, often attending the Thursday night buffet as a family, as well as games.
“I’d go down there anyway, even if I wasn’t the No. 1 ticketholder,” Maric says. “I grew up around that soccer club. My dad played there in the inaugural team so we have plenty of family history at that club.”
He is also helping grow interest in Australian Football abroad. In January, the Croatian Knights – the national representative team – asked him to be an ambassador.
He has sent them footballs and has already given the team’s young ruckman pointers to work on.
But the pull to return to the birthplace of his parents might see him offer some hands-on assistance sooner rather than later.
“For me, 2009 was a great trip. The best trip,” he said. “I’m planning on going back to Croatia soon and get involved and do some training over there.
“It’s all done via email at the moment so it’s a bit hard, but it’s good fun. I really enjoy that sort of stuff.”
A CUT ABOVE THE REST
There isn’t another hairdo in the AFL that commands its own Facebook page. At last count, ‘Ivan Maric’s Mullet’ had more than 10,000 ‘likes’ with the group’s simple and to-the-point description: “Everyone loves a good mullet so like!”
Mullet wigs and nicknames have followed Maric to Punt Road with the back of his hair attracting more attention with every centimetre it grows, which only strengthens the former Crow’s position as a cult hero to Tiger fans.
Initially, it started as a bet between Maric and good friend Adelaide forward Taylor Walker to see who could grow the best ‘party in the back’ arrangement.
Walker’s hair has its own following, with the Adelaide Advertiser creating a ‘Taylor Walker Mullet Mask’ for fans at the Adelaide-Richmond round 14 clash at AAMI Stadium last year – the first time the two hairstyles faced off as opponents.
The penalty for the man whose mullet is cut off first is to name his first-born after the victor. Trims are allowed.
For Maric, he is not even sure where the bet lies anymore. But he has grown attached to his hair and is considering keeping it for his November wedding to fiancé Erin regardless.
“Taylor talks so much crap,” Maric laughed. “It was just something we did for a laugh initially, but we still talk about it and I think he enjoys the media that goes on with it.”
With that, Walker was recently asked by Triple M in Adelaide about the wager, which he considers very much alive.
“I’m hoping I don’t have a girl,” Walker said. “I’d have to call her Ivana.”
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If thats the case it aint gunna get any better playing with it.
we recruited old man ruckman to cover injury, so do we use him to prevent a breakdown or actually wait until ivan breaks down?
We will play him like we did Foley, until he breaks down..
Makes me think of the coughlan injury.
Comes off half broken down.
Club doctors and pysio send Cogs back onto the field. breaks down completely
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This has to be a wacky idea of Chocco's :eyebrow ...
Ivan Maric gets his ear flicked by Ricky Petterd as punishment for dropping a mark during a Richmond Tigers AFL training session at ME Bank Centre on May 2, 2013 in Melbourne, Australia.
(Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)
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That's the punishment! :banghead
Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.
Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.
....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!
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:lol
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That's the punishment! :banghead
Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.
Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.
....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!
u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
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That's the punishment! :banghead
Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.
Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.
....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!
u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Port's list wasn't in that bad a shape because they had a number of good young kids coming through which they were all able to sign up and keep. Hinkley is showing up how bad Primus was as a coach. Neeld btw is the current Primus.
Anyway as for Ivan, not sure ear flicking is the answer lol but he has this year dropped a couple of crucial sitters by AFL standards.
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That's the punishment! :banghead
Id make everyone run 10 laps and do the whole drill again until its perfect even if they're there all day.
Who was it that was lauding Hinkley the other week?
The Port player was answering questions on why they've had such a great start. He answered that during his first preseason training session with Hinkley they did some skill sessions and the coach called them in and said " boys we are coming from a long way back we need to better ourselves to be competitive this year". Or something along those lines.
He raised the bar and the players are reaping the rewards at the minute.
....... A flick on the ear.....Pfft!
u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Port's list wasn't in that bad a shape because they had a number of good young kids coming through which they were all able to sign up and keep. Hinkley is showing up how bad Primus was as a coach. Neeld btw is the current Primus.
Agree MT, their list wasn't nearly as bad as their results suggested and now with a good coach they have been able to turn things around quite quickly. Not that I think they have a premiership list but it is certainly 'middle of the road' competitive and should have been that way for the past few seasons.
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u know hinkley went for the tigers job but we chose dimwick instead, big mistake
Gee wizz,GWS,Melb,Crws,Suns and West Coast and i'll raise you Sydney and Hawthorn.
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that's not an ear flick its a wet willie. Hinkley is going well atm but they need to get a big scalp to prove themselves.
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This has to be a wacky idea of Chocco's :eyebrow ...
Ivan Maric gets his ear flicked by Ricky Petterd as punishment for dropping a mark during a Richmond Tigers AFL training session at ME Bank Centre on May 2, 2013 in Melbourne, Australia.
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Surprised no one mentioned Ellis lurking on the fringes
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His season is mirroring ours.
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Assistant coach Brendan Lade's press conference today:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-05-10/lade-press-conference-may-10
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Tigers up in the air in ruck as Maric faces a fitness test
The Age
May 11, 2013
Port Adelaide dumped two of its ruckmen. And Richmond is uncertain about its main one.
The status of ruckmen at both clubs remains clouded on the eve of Saturday's pivotal clash at AAMI Stadium.
The Tigers aren't 100 per cent sure their No. 1 ruckman Ivan Maric will overcome an ankle injury in time to play and his fate will be determined by how he recovers from a light training session in Adelaide on Friday.
Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade said Maric, ''at this stage'', was playing.
Maric's fitness is crucial for the Tigers as his ruck partner Tyrone Vickery was concussed last weekend.
But rather than exploit Richmond's possible ruck weakness, the Power dropped the two ruckmen who played in last week's loss to North Melbourne.
It axed Matthew Lobbe and Brent Renouf, recalling Jarrad Redden for his first game since round two - moves that surprised Richmond.
''It was a bit strange when I saw the sides but obviously they have got a plan they are going in with,'' Lade said.
He expected Redden to be supported in ruck by Justin Westhoff, while Richmond will rely on Orren Stephenson to assist Maric, should he play.
If Maric withdraws, Stephenson will shoulder the bulk of the ruck duties in his first senior game for Richmond, with Luke McGuane providing support.
The Tigers, seeking to end a three-game losing streak, also must cover the loss of captain Trent Cotchin who has a knee injury.
''Obviously the captain of anyone's club is a big loss,'' Lade said. ''But we have got some people coming in, in [Shane] Tuck and [Nathan] Foley, who we think can fill that void.
''Cotchin is very hard to replace but if everyone picks up 5 or 10 per cent, they can cover for him.''
Defender Troy Chaplin will play against his former Port teammates for the first time since ending his 140-game career at Alberton.
''You will always be a bit nervous coming up against your old mates who you played seven, eight years with,'' Lade said.
''I'm sure there will be some banter between the Port and Richmond players.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-up-in-the-air-in-ruck-as-maric-faces-a-fitness-test-20130510-2jdkh.html#ixzz2StbBe3EI
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Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric gets through training session in Adelaide
Jai Bednall
From: The Advertiser
May 11, 2013
IVAN Maric remains on track to front for Richmond against Port Adelaide tomorrow after completing a light training session at AAMI Stadium today.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-gets-through-training-session-in-adelaide/story-e6frf9mx-1226639384391
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Both barely qualified as forum posts let alone as press articles
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Maric back as Tigers set themselves for Dreamtime test
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
12:25pm AEST Tuesday, May 21, 2013
RICHMOND is capable of handling the finals-like build-up to Saturday night's 'Dreamtime at the 'G' clash against Essendon, according to coach Damien Hardwick, with ruckman Ivan Maric set to return from injury for the top-eight litmus test.
Maric, who missed last Sunday's 34-point win over Melbourne, will return from an ankle injury after training strongly at the ME Bank Centre on Tuesday morning.
The influential ruckmen shapes as a crucial inclusion for the 5-3 Tigers, who have fallen short in big games at the MCG against Geelong and Collingwood this season.
The Bombers have won two of the last three 'Dreamtime' matches, winning last year's clash by 19 points in front of 80,900 fans at the MCG.
The centrepiece match of Indigenous Round is expected to draw another bumper crowd of more than 80,000 people, and Hardwick said his Tigers would handle the occasion.
"It's obviously a big game from a crowd point of view … and probably from a build-up point of view it has got that (finals) feel," Hardwick said on Tuesday.
"It's something that we've coped with reasonably well. We had a really good win against Carlton; St Kilda was a big build-up as well.
"Probably the Collingwood and Geelong games we didn't play to our required standards, so we certainly look forward to rising to the challenge this week.
"It's an enormous honour for us to be playing in Indigenous Round and we certainly hope the game responds to that."
After making a 6-0 start to the season, Essendon has suffered back-to-back losses to Geelong and the Brisbane Lions, kicking two of its three lowest scores for the season.
The Tigers have their own creases to iron out after failing to convert their chances against Melbourne last Sunday, and Hardwick said they would have their work cut out for them on Saturday night.
"They're a very good side, they've got some great strengths and some very good players," he said of the Bombers.
"We've had some really solid contests over the last couple of years and this year will be no different.
"We look at the way they play, their numbers suggest they probably should have KPI-wise beaten Brisbane, but the scoreboard didn't reflect that.
"They played the best in the business in Geelong the week previous."
While Maric will return for the Tigers, Chris Newman (groin soreness), Dylan Grimes (foot) and Ricky Petterd (calf) will need to pass fitness tests later in the week.
Brandon Ellis, who racked up 39 possessions against the Demons, trained lightly on Tuesday because of soreness but was in no doubt for Saturday night's match.
Hardwick said Ellis and prized draftee Nick Vlastuin, who has 25 disposals against the Demons at 92 per cent efficiency, were on track to becoming genuine members of the Tigers' midfield.
"To be a genuine part of it you've got to deliver over a period of time and they're certainly capable players who are capable and entrenched to do that.
"We've just got to keep developing them.
"He (Ellis) has had a terrific year. He started off as sub in the first couple of games and has just built his game along nicely.
"He's been a great contributor over the course of the last four to five weeks.
"He's going to continue to get better as he gains more experience."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-21/maric-set-to-boost-tigers
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Why is it that every time we play in front of 80,000 the media acts as though we've never done it before.
FFS our kids won this game in 2011 in front of 84k
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Also beat the scum baggers in front of 80k
Currently 1 from 4 in big games this year, not a great record but
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Also beat the scum baggers in front of 80k
Currently 1 from 4 in big games this year, not a great record but
2 from 5. Saints Friday Night Footy at the G with everyone watching is a big win for us. I used to dread Prime time games as we used to get a good pounding without lube.
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Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
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Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.
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could always barrack for a pee ant minnow club like norf! or the bullflogs if you like being under the radar
you'd need a spade and a canary to find their hype
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Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.
I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.
Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!
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Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.
I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.
Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!
I can see why you say that WAT but I think it's something we have to seek out and conquer. Agree that it would be nice to be 'left alone' before a big game but Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn et al get the hype thrown at them and I see it as part of the development and learning curve our guys need to have.
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Too much "big game" building up I think, wish we could remain a little more low key going into these contests. I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.
Trouble is WAT, we're not going to win any premierships if we shy away from the hype and don't learn to overcome it.
I am not saying shy away, just tone it down a bit, it's been like throwing the sheep to the wolves with these games and I believe it has gone against us, all but the Blues game but that was lucky. Very much pressure on the Tigers this year and it gets exploited by the media weekly, just waiting for us to crack and go on a losing streak.
Would just like to see us go into a game like GC, GWS, Dogs and a few others go in, just a game a football on a Saturday!!
I can see why you say that WAT but I think it's something we have to seek out and conquer. Agree that it would be nice to be 'left alone' before a big game but Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn et al get the hype thrown at them and I see it as part of the development and learning curve our guys need to have.
Yeah goes both ways I suppose, I would just like it a bit quieter until we can match it with these teams, the Cats and Pies game showed we are another year off, anyway, good for development I suppose. :thumbsup
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smokey' on the money. need to confront it head on. the more hype and build up we get in these games the more we will be prepared for it if we play finals.
you cant tone it down come september.
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If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.
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If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.
And we're next door neighbours now so the alliance just got stronger. Once we have rid the Top End of all those pesky Greeks we will be headed south so watch out. :police:
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If Smoke and Alberts think it then that is how it is. Alberts & Smokey will lead the army to victory.
And we're next door neighbours now so the alliance just got stronger. Once we have rid the Top End of all those pesky Greeks we will be headed south so watch out. :police:
Just go and eat a souvlaki and leave the smart stuff to others ;D
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Would that be a buffalo souvlaki or a crocodile souvlaki? They're about the only 2 types of meat one can buy up here!
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Hard to be quiet about the game when it is the "marquee" game of this round; the indigenous round
We should embrace the hype, the build up and everything else that comes along with it
Outside of the ANZAC day game this should be the next biggest game of the H&A season and we as a club should be doing everything in our power to make sure it is
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Would that be a buffalo souvlaki or a crocodile souvlaki? They're about the only 2 types of meat one can buy up here!
go the combo ;D
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Hard to be quiet about the game when it is the "marquee" game of this round; the indigenous round
We should embrace the hype, the build up and everything else that comes along with it
Outside of the ANZAC day game this should be the next biggest game on the H&A season and we as a club should be doing everything in our power to make sure it is
Do you feel the same surrounding the hype at the start of the season???? Big build up = big let down lately.... :-\
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Do you feel the same surrounding the hype at the start of the season???? Big build up = big let down lately.... :-\
Doesn't worry me one or another to be honest, it's round 1 there's always going to be hype.
With Round 1 I certainly don't get worked up if we lose it and think seasons over just like I don't buy into we are going to make finals if we win it. It is what it is ;D
But this game is different, this game is the showcase for this round, it's important, it gets embraced by all footy fans so it brings alot of hype and involves more than the game itself.
Therefore, the hype is different and it's great for us. Love this game and what it stands for :thumbsup
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Ivan
got nurdered tonight
Ryder pants him
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Ivan
got nurdered tonight
Ryder pants him
Has been murdered all year. Maric is fast becoming a one hit wonder. I am concerned we have placed too much faith in him. Its time to either develop own decent ruck or find another.
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Yep Ivan can hardly raise a gallop now, nor jump over a jam tin atm.
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Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.
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Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.
Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.
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Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.
Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.
wowee boy o boy there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me :-[ :-[ :-[
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Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.
Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.
wowee boy o boy there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me :-[ :-[ :-[
You know what is even sadder TM. We are still up at 1:30 am after a demoralising loss thinking about this crap and trying to figure out a way to rectify it when we know these problems will never be rectified not in the short term at least. :help
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Picking Vickery at pick 8 looks to have been as much as a mistake as Post & Hislop later in the same draft.
Don't forget Adam Thomson best clearance player in the league against time played.
wowee boy o boy there is some cringe worthy material when we look back and we bought it as supporters at the time stuff me :-[ :-[ :-[
You know what is even sadder TM. We are still up at 1:30 am after a demoralising loss thinking about this crap and trying to figure out a way to rectify it when we know these problems will never be rectified not in the short term at least. :help
:cheers
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Yer lets be honest we broke him. >:(
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Didnt we take Batchelor in front of Parker and didnt we take Griffiths infront of Carlisle? Just asking as I havent checked it but Im pretty sure with Batchelor its correct as I wanted us to pick Parker who went to the swannies.
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Didnt we take Batchelor in front of Parker and didnt we take Griffiths infront of Carlisle? Just asking as I havent checked it but Im pretty sure with Batchelor its correct as I wanted us to pick Parker who went to the swannies.
Took Fiona instead of Pav too
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Bring back Gus Graham.
Maric is woeful.
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Bring back Gus Graham.
Maric is woeful.
Agree, been keeping this sig for ages to prove I always had faith in the King Island Cream Puff
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They all should be hung, drawn and quartered! We haven't developed 1 lousy Ruckman in 30 years :scream
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we should get the midget from fantasy island and hope he can jump ;D
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Our mids have gone back to having to try and read the opposition ruckman's taps, ala the King Island cream puff era. Sad state of affairs really. Orren is the in form ruck and should never have been dropped.
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Our over reliance on Maric was a big concern and has now blown up in our face.
The big O is not the answer
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Watched Maric in the warm ups last night
His kicking is a joke
And when he does kick in play, he kicks it 20 metres and misses the target.
We got smashed in the middle last night due to our inabilty to put first hand on ball, end of story
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Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.
Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
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Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.
Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.
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Statistically, Ivan's hitout numbers are down by a third - he was averaging 31 hitouts per game last year; this year it's down to 21.
Likewise last year, he had ten 30+ hitout games; he's had just one (round 1) this year. So whether it's still that groin injury that is hampering him or not, Ivan's impact is certainly down significantly from last year.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.
:clapping
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Bring back Gus Graham.
Maric is woeful.
:lol but really ::) ::)
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There in black and white. Give him a rest so he can get his body right.
Was given a rest over the off season to return for this season and that has obviously failed.
Maric has made a slower start to the pre-season than he would like, after he was bothered by soft-tissue problems towards the end of last season.
"I'm feeling good. I'm just taking a bit longer to ease into training because I was really battling towards the end of the year with my groin," he said.
"So I'm just really trying to strengthen everything up so these problems don't happen. I didn't have an operation, it was more rest and rehabilitation."
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14065.msg344296#msg344296
This was after Maric was played for the last third of 2012 but did not do full training.
Lade said the club would give Maric all the time he needed to get right.
"We're not going to push him at all. We pushed him last year to play some games when we probably should have rested him and with (Tyrone) Vickery going down that hurt Ivan more than anyone," Lade said.
"He gets a bit worried that he's not training and not doing what he needs to get his body right, but we know he works hard and when he does get back into training he'll be up and going."
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:facepalm
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Maric 'the freshest he's been'
By Nathan Schmook
2:48pm AEST Friday, May 31, 2013
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says ruckman Ivan Maric is as fresh as he's been all season heading into Monday night's key battle against West Coast duo Nic Naitanui and Dean Cox at Patersons Stadium.
Maric suffered an ankle injury against Geelong in round six and he was rested against Melbourne in round eight after playing through the problem for one week.
His form is yet to reach the heights of 2012 when he pushed for All Australian selection but Hardwick said he was up for the challenge of taking on the Eagles' dominant duo.
"He's probably the freshest he's been," Hardwick said on Friday.
"Last year towards the latter stages of the year he did get very tired because he had a huge burden to bear.
"This year it's been a bit of a slower build up for him but he's starting to hit some good form now which we're excited by."
Vice-captain Brett Deledio trained on Friday afternoon and will be fit to take on the Eagles after suffering a knock to his knee in last Saturday night's loss to Essendon.
Young midfielder Reece Conca will play 70 minutes in the VFL this weekend before making his return for Richmond following the round 11 bye.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-31/maric-fresh-deledio-fit
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Interesting. I thought they would swap out Maric for the Big O late. Would be difficult to do on the back of that article/comment now. Really needs to step up against the best ruck combination in the league. Can't see it happening unfortunately with Nick Nat jumping all over him I would imagine
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Lol @ starting to hit form
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Lol @ starting to hit form
As I said last week he is just another BS artist in the league of Spud and Wallet.
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lets see if he can move freely, jump and kick ( if he gets the ball :P) on monday and then we can truly determine the bull plop quantity of the statement
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Thought this was an ad for Tena Lady.
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That's a bloody relief, we need him firing, perhaps he can get an inch off the ground this week :shh
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He will need to be fresh against Nic Nat & Big Cox!!! :help
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That's a bloody relief, we need him firing, perhaps he can get an inch off the ground this week :shh
wanna buy a bridge?
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Thought this was an ad for Tena Lady.
:lol
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So does that mean we have been playing him underdone all year.......there's a surprise.....NOT!
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Maybe the new ruck rules have had an impact on him.
.... Or maybe he's a one season wonder. :whistle
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If you call hobbling around like your 50 fresh, then yeah he's fresh
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I'm starting to get a real spud frawley, wallet feel about some of hardwicks statements.
He is playing rubbish this year. What form when you drop sitters and can't run.
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Doesnt mean he is 100%.. Just means the rest of the year he was well below fit to play.
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lets see if he can move freely, jump and kick ( if he gets the ball :P) on monday and then we can truly determine the bull plop quantity of the statement
Luckily it's a long break, the extra day will help him, though it helps nic nat too.
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I'm starting to get a real spud frawley, wallet feel about some of hardwicks statements.
He is playing rubbish this year. What form when you drop sitters and can't run.
Would get you a game in the Aussie cricket side ;D
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Yep and at 38 balding, tired, overworked and married I'm the best looking I've ever been.
Look out ladies, Tuckers opening his harem.
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Maric is clearly struggling to turn in the harbour let alone on the field. 12 months ago was in AA form, and up & about.
Get a 2nd decent Ruck option by looking to develop a young tall in the role at Coburg instead of recycled 30 y.o re-tread that cannot support the #1 ruck.
FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.
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FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.
We don't have that many
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
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Maric is clearly struggling to turn in the harbour let alone on the field. 12 months ago was in AA form, and up & about.
Get a 2nd decent Ruck option by looking to develop a young tall in the role at Coburg instead of recycled 30 y.o re-tread that cannot support the #1 ruck.
FFS Stop treating the 59,000+ members as fools.
Exactly therein lies the problem.
No trust in juniors or second players in a set position.
Play bloke till we bust him and then back to square one.
RFC we do things by halves rebuilds and recruiting.
Malakies we go the whole way.
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
= freshest he's been = Jackson is our best player this season = Malakies
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When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that. :thumbsup
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When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that. :thumbsup
How about Arnot at Coburg Lonergan still at Richmond.
Enough for me. Malakies
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh
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We are absolutely stuffed, may as well throw another midfielder in there and play without a ruck
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh
Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh
Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.
Has been in the best a few times and getting a bit of it, TBh i would have tried something coming against nicnat, perhaps big o form was too ordinary , dunno but we ve invested heavily in maric improving by 500% on what he's shown in recent weeks :huh
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Kingy said on sen that he's got a hip injury
That adds up if its the case as he seems to be resTricted, i hope he 100 % by gee we need him to be if not then give Tom derikx a go or has he yet to be forgiven for dropping that mark...he s been killing it at vfl :shh
Has he, I think he has been quite mediocre and to be frank will be lucky to retain his spot next year.
Has been in the best a few times and getting a bit of it, TBh i would have tried something coming against nicnat, perhaps big o form was too ordinary , dunno but we ve invested heavily in maric improving by 500% on what he's shown in recent weeks :huh
Big O played against Melbourne two weeks ago. Would have played him on Monday with Ivan. Derickx unfortunately ain't it. Maric needs the help we are just playing whatever ruckmen and tells we have in very much a wrong way that hinders the side.
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Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?
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Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?
Unless you try you never know but if one bloke is playing injured then you would think it would be wise to play two ruckmen against a hot Nic Nat and Coxy. :help
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Yep like most i was hoping like heck o would back up the brilliant port game v melb, he stunk. Prob deserves another chance, can o and maric play in same team?
Depends, is it a requirement that we are competitive?
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When Dimma said that about Jacko he was actually in pretty good form and clearly Dimma was just trying to give him some credit in the media. You depressing freaks need to find better ammo than that. :thumbsup
He was in passable form at best, was only butchering the ball occasionally as opposed to regularly. Was hardly setting the comp alight and certainly wasn't our best. Was a ridiculous statement tbh
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This type of wacky thinking could be the start of a Garry 'Buddha' Hocking style coaching reign from Damien.
Be afraid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BidWRsqlY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BidWRsqlY)
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Big Ivan looked a lot freer in his movements on Saturday. More like his old self that we saw in the first half of last year. He was using his bulk to create space at the stoppages for our mids and he was pushing back to take defensive marks. Hopefully the week off a few weeks ago plus the Bye has done the trick :pray.
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He played a corker, took some great pack grabs and slotted a few goals. Might see him up and about in the business end of the season by the looks, nice timing.
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we should rest Ivan again vs GWS and bring in Stephenson for that game. Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals ;D
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Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals ;D
Vs Gold Coast
Out-Ivan
IN-Derricx
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Maybe even find another game to rest him so he can get through to the end of the season and play finals ;D
Vs Gold Coast
Out-Ivan
IN-Derricx
:lol >:(
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Was actually jumping on the weekend. Remarkable.
Really hope this is the norm again now.
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Ivan is in the top 5 in the official AFL ratings for ruckmen ...
Naitanui 576
McEvoy 435
Goldstein 428
Ryder 425
Maric 412
http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/ratings-hub
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Where's big Willy Style?
AFL.com had Minson in their AA side this week...
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Ivan , finding form I feel :clapping :clapping
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I thought Minson cut him a new one ....
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Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric wins important battle against Bulldogs rival Will Minson
Glenn McFarlane
From: Herald Sun
June 23, 2013
AS far as man mountains go, Ivan Maric and Will Minson are almost as powerful and imposing as they come.
Get in their way at your own peril.
And when the two bulky ruckmen crashed into each other at the first bounce last night - and for countless bounces and ball-ups across four quarters - the clunking of a collective 209 kilos against each other proved an intriguing battle in the Richmond-Western Bulldogs clash.
In match full of interesting personal battles - Brett Deledio and Liam Picken; and Trent Cotchin and Matthew Boyd to name a few - the Maric-Minson match-up was a must-watch.
And both men threw themselves into the contest in body and soul.
The importance of both these ruckmen to their respective sides cannot be undervalued - and last night underpinned the reasons why.
Minson has been outstanding so far this season and if he continues the form of the first 13 rounds, big Will is destined for his first All-Australian selection.
He's done it through sheer weight of numbers and sheer strength.
Maric is once more gaining momentum after having a few issues with his body earlier in the season.
He is a warrior and never stops giving his all.
Minson was always likely to hold the hit-out sway last night, but Maric knew he could minimise the damage by competing and charging at every contest.
And that's exactly what he did, and coach Damien Hardwick would have been delighted with Maric's output and sheer hard work.
Minson narrowly led the hit-outs in the first hour - 19 to 15 - but Maric held the possession sway - seven to three.
At half-time, the Tigers had 10 centre clearances to four, while the Dogs held sway on general clearances 19 to 16.
By the end of the game, Minson had marginally won the hit-out count head-to-head with Maric - 38 to 23 - but Hardwick would have been pleased with that.
Disposal-wise, the two big men locked it level with 10 disposals each.
And the centre clearances was in the Dogs' way, but only by one.
Given Minson's impact so far this season, that's a win for Maric.
Maric had some cameo assistance from Ty Vickery - 33 minutes of it in total - while Minson had to go it alone for almost all of the night.
It was a fascinating duel and Maric more than held his own, negating somewhat the influence of Minson, and giving his team plenty of strength and support.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-wins-important-battle-against-bulldogs-rival-will-minson/story-fndv8t7m-1226668137607
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Thought Maric clearly won the first half and then the 2nd half Minson got on top a little bit. 50-50 at the end of the game. Maric seemed more active around the ground IMO.
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This is a BS artcle.. Minson gave maric a whipping
we only dominated in the ruck late when TV went in and played better than maric in the ruck role
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This is a BS artcle.. Minson gave maric a whipping
we only dominated in the ruck late when TV went in and played better than maric in the ruck role
Sounds like the kind of BS report from someone who never saw the game, take it from me partner, he took him to the cleaners :shh
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bs
i was at the game and watched the replay already, minson beat ivan
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I thought Maric had a blinder of a first quarter,and then was more than serviceable for the rest of the game.Fingers crossed his injury issues are now behind him
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Maric must be injured IMHO. Been a disappointing season this year and has failed to build on last seasons effort.
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RFC website is saying Ivan is 1-2 weeks away. So he could even miss the Gold Coast game as well :-\.
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The redemption starring Tom Dericks
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;D
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Bring back Tommy D for 2 reasons.
a) We need a loss soon. This place is getting dull.
b) we need a scapegoat for that loss for a good venting thread.
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Groin soreness to plague Maric for remainder of career
By Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
Thursday, July 4, 2013
RICHMOND ruckman Ivan Maric will have to manage groin soreness for the rest of his career but will return to the Tigers' team in round 16 against Gold Coast, Tigers coach Damien Hardwick says.
Maric missed the Tigers' win over St Kilda last Sunday and has already been ruled out of this Saturday's clash with North Melbourne.
But Hardwick said on Thursday Maric's injury was not a concern as the Tigers get closer to their first finals appearance since 2001.
"The big thing for him is just getting his body right. It's going to be an ongoing issue throughout the remainder of his career," Hardwick said.
"He's just got to manage his body. We've got to keep strengthening that core area. Every year around this time he probably needs a couple of weeks off to get the remainder of the year up and going.
"He'll be fine. Next week he'll be available to play."
Hardwick said the heavy load Maric carries as Richmond's number one ruckmen inevitably took a toll as the season wore on.
"Funnily enough it still does need some load going through there, but it's just the constant grind of the ruck contest," Hardwick said.
"You look at the start of the year the stoppage numbers are about 85 a game, now they're up over about 115 so they're going up again.
"So it's that constant battle and Ivan probably does, a bit like Will Minson does (for the Western Bulldogs), about 90 per cent of our ruck work, at centre bounces and ruck contests.
"It's just always going to catch up to him at some stage."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-04/groin-soreness-a-maric-curse
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VIDEO: Ivan's heritage ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-11/ivans-heritage
Apparently he's back this week too :pray :thumbsup.
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Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.
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and take a contested mark. The mark that he wasn't paid was an atrocious umpiring decision
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Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.
To be fair to the others, he was only up against a skinny kid (who I think will be very good in the long run - maybe we should target him considering Smith is ahead of him in the pecking order).
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Yeah i like the look of that Nicholls chap.
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Good to have Ivan back in the side yesterday. Makes a difference when you have a ruckman who can win a stack (32) of hitouts compared to what happened up in Cairns last year.
Hey don't be like that sister. Big Beef had 19 and would have had more if someone in a gimp suit wasn't sharing ruck duties with him
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There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.
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We need a ruckman big time
Maric is battered. Thought he competed but lets be honest should've slaughtered those opp rucks
Time to ook at Gorringe from GC
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I think if we are looking for more ruckmen, look no further than geelong. They have 4 ruckmen that are all far better than stephenson.
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What about Mumford?
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What about Mumford?
And Sydney will let go their no.1 ruck?
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apparently there is a sticking point in their contract negotiations over length of contract and they do have strong lineup of talls, so its not beyond the realms of possibility.
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There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.
Nicholls is 3rd in line up there, offer the boy the world and he will come.
The other two possabilitys are Bellchambers or Zac Clarke. Both are the right age and out of contract, either could service us nicely through the next few years of finals appearances ;D
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Interesting what happens to Essendon. Could make it easy (although others would have interest) or very hard to get Bellchambers
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There is no way GC will let Nicholls go.
Nicholls is 3rd in line up there, offer the boy the world and he will come.
The other two possabilitys are Bellchambers or Zac Clarke. Both are the right age and out of contract, either could service us nicely through the next few years of finals appearances ;D
Clarke re-signed last month. A real bummer because I was pretty keen on him too.
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I think Currie would be a very likely option or Blicavs from the Cats but I think they will hang onto him as a future #1 ruckman.
Only watched one Coburg game this year but is the Beaner doing much ruck work? The game I saw he was playing up forward for most of it.
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Interesting what happens to Essendon. Could make it easy (although others would have interest) or very hard to get Bellchambers
Would love Bellchambers. Good ruckman and very handy as a resting forward. Still relatively young too. Would still keep Orren on the list though. Will leave us with four ruckmen and McBean developing nicely down at Coburg too. :thumbsup
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Jesse White anyone?
Can play ruck & forward. :thumbsup
He'll be cheap, which will be a plus considering we need $$$ for Jack and Martin. ;D
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Everyone keeps telling me he's poo...
Looks alright to me
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I think Currie would be a very likely option or Blicavs from the Cats but I think they will hang onto him as a future #1 ruckman.
Only watched one Coburg game this year but is the Beaner doing much ruck work? The game I saw he was playing up forward for most of it.
He's doing Ruck all Rucking, if you will......
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Robbie Warnock from Carlton would be a good backup or even primary IMO. 206cm and gets a lot of hitouts.
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Yes to Currie, Gorringe, Bellchambers. No to Warnock.
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What about Clarke from Freo - their third string ruckman?
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What about Clarke from Freo - their third string ruckman?
Re-signed a few weeks ago.
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Currie was top shelf vs us pre season
Would be happy
Currie
Clarke
Gorridge
Nichols
Dont want bell chambers or Jessie white
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why change?
Maric is a gun,yes he has some injury issues ,which the club is aware of and seems to be managing.
Ty fills in when needed and this part of his game seems to be improving more than his forward play.
McBean is coming along just nicely,and we have Giff who if he can up his contribution ,would fill another of the talls position.
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Cause if maric does a knee we are left with Derick and orren.
Mcbean is too good for the ruck
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Currie was top shelf vs us pre season
Would be happy
Currie
Clarke
Gorridge
Nichols
Dont want bell chambers or Jessie white
Why not bellchambers?
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Cause I dislike Essen Don.
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all the more reason to pinch a player off them
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Cause I dislike Essen Don.
He wouldn't be Essen Don if he came to us. ;D
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he'd still have drugs in his system....
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Maric has moved up a spot and is now rated the 4th best ruckman in the AFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/ratings-hub.workstation
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Tiger tall can still shine
Matthew James, Footy Prophet
The Age
August 2, 2013
Ivan Maric was the breakout sweetheart of 2012, mesmerising footy supporters with his flowing mullet and on-field presence. He left Adelaide after being starved of opportunities and walked into the top job at Richmond. His maiden season was dominant, playing all but one game and ranking as the second best fantasy ruckman behind all-star Dean Cox.
Maric's instant success came from his rapport with on-ballers Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck and Brett Deledio, and the quartet each produced career-best seasons. The Tigers as a group have improved significantly this season, and look set to play finals. Despite the progress, that midfield quartet has surprisingly gone backwards significantly in fantasy terms. All four were effectively 100-point fantasy players or better - in 2013 none are at that level.
Maric, in particular, has had his struggles, despite retaining the No. 1 ruck mantle at the club. He has missed three games through injury and his around-the-ground impact has declined. Ty Vickery has come on a little, although he is hardly taking significant time away from Maric. Vickery's hitouts have jumped to eight per game, but that's still reflective of a relief option rather than a time-share ruck arrangement employed by Sydney or West Coast.
Maric's fantasy scoring has settled into a middle-of-the-road pattern. He has only scored 90 points once , after achieving it 14 times in 2012. His fantasy average has dropped almost 30 points per game, yet the Tigers are winning more matches. Maric has struggled in particular against the one-two ruck combos clubs are increasingly deploying this year.
Despite this, Maric's fantasy prospects are looking up in the lead-up to Ultimate Footy finals. Over the next four weeks he will face Max Bailey, Matthew Leuenberger, Matthew Kreuzer and Jon Giles. Maric won't have to contend with two legitimate ruck opponents and, on this basis, his numbers should improve. The next month for his fantasy owners is the most important of all.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/ultimate-footy-news/tiger-tall-can-still-shine-20130801-2r28t.html#ixzz2ak8sFc21
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Good to see Ivan moving freely. After quarter time, he tore the game apart in the ruck and was back to racking up his own clearances out of the middle. He also kicked a couple while 'resting' up forward.
It'll be interesting to see if we decide to give him a 'rest' (as part of managing his body) given next week would be the last chance to do so and then let him rip into the finals or if we decide to not mess with form and just play him against the Bombers.
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May be down on last year but I reckon he's added another string this year. Last year he plodded a bit up forward but a few times this year he's been able to actually play as a forward, lead, clunk a few contested grabs and kick a few from set shots.
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There's this New Mexican drug that hasn't been approved or banned by asada or awada.. I reckon we should inject his groin for finals.
He's playing good but Cherry ripe he will be
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its seems like its ok to play with drugs seeing as Jobe and friends are still running around.
We should shoot them up full of riods, pigs brain, etc. :cheers
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Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.
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Mighty Maric slays Giants
By richmondfc.com.au
3:22pm AEST Monday, August 26, 2013
Key Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric responded superbly to the gauntlet being thrown down to him during the quarter-time break of yesterday’s clash with the Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.
Maric, who lowered his colors to experienced ruck counterpart Dean Brogan in the opening term, was the architect of the Tigers’ brilliant second-quarter blitz, which netted them 11.5 to the Giants’ solitary point.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/mighty-maric-slays-giants
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Mighty Maric slays Giants
By richmondfc.com.au
3:22pm AEST Monday, August 26, 2013
Key Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric responded superbly to the gauntlet being thrown down to him during the quarter-time break of yesterday’s clash with the Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.
Maric, who lowered his colors to experienced ruck counterpart Dean Brogan in the opening term, was the architect of the Tigers’ brilliant second-quarter blitz, which netted them 11.5 to the Giants’ solitary point.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/mighty-maric-slays-giants
Was told the X man was going to take his spot if be didn't pull his finger out
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Geez I've got my wires crossed on what slaying is. :shh
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Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.
Did that last year for the off season.
As stated himself in an interview, it was a rest and recuperation program.
The result was as you see this year.
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Once our season is done, give maric complete time off to get over those groins. Watching him move freely yesterday makes you wonder how good we and he can be if he's fully fit.
Did that last year for the off season.
As stated himself in an interview, it was a rest and recuperation program.
The result was as you see this year.
when I say rest I mean complete break away, rest in afl terms means doing every other session but its still likely inflaming. Id give him 3 months off, come back early December and ease into it
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No sex on his honeymoon either. Groin gets complete rest. RFC interests come first.
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At qtr time, he just said, "Jebiga!"
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At qtr time, he just said, "Jebiga!"
To Dean Brogan he did. Dean is still scratching his head. All goes back to their days in Adelaide. ;D
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wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic
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wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic
Brogan is long for Bogan.
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wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic
Brogan is long for Bogan.
:lol
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wonder if Brogan is short for Brogdanavic
Brogan is long for Bogan.
:lol
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His snap goal in the last quarter was one of the most amazing and awe inspiring goals ive seen live, and I thought that would lift the team. Suprisingly for all of his hard work they conceded not long after..
Played a great game and battled all day
Racked up 87 supercoach points alone in the last quarter
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Totally agree. Never stopped trying.
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His snap goal in the last quarter was one of the most amazing and awe inspiring goals ive seen live, and I thought that would lift the team. Suprisingly for all of his hard work they conceded not long after..
Played a great game and battled all day
Racked up 87 supercoach points alone in the last quarter
Was a true leader in that last quarter didn't have many mates
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We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.
Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
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Grigg is not good enough.
Chaplin I am still not sure about. Astbury is very important. If he stagnates the list is in trouble
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We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.
Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
Jay Shultz down forward would have been handy yesterday.
:lol
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Not sure why you're laughing about it. He certainly would have been handy.
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We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.
Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
Jay Shultz down forward would have been handy yesterday.
:lol
Im not happy with hardwick and the mcgaune/aaron edwards situation.
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Not sure why you're laughing about it. He certainly would have been handy.
yep. damm straight he wouldve been
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Sorry Bents had to remove you link
Just a big green blurry blob and wasn't woking properly
Make it smaller and it should work better
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http://i.imgur.com/3e5JwB5.jpg
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Just watched the replay of that goal.
Wow.
Really love this bloke!
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His attitude leaves the whole teams for dead!
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His attitude leaves the whole teams for dead!
In a word....................
LEADERSHIP
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Maric is a GEM. :thumbsup He sucked it up. :thumbsup
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We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.
Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
That's why I gave him votes , when most of the other tigers were AWOL the big fella stood up
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We would have been slaughtered in the last without this big bastard running around. Probably lost the battle in the ruck for the first 3 quarters but he was huge in the 4th. I don't ever want to hear another word about Houli or Grigg or Chaplin being prize recruits. Those 3 barely have a testicle between them.
Maric is where it's at. He is a star. I apologise for calling you an honest battler who makes a good contest when you first started here. You are a stuffing gun
good stuff coach
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Just watched the replay for the first time since the tragedy.
Ivan's goal on the run in the last 10 minutes is ridiculous. Even though I knew the outcome it still gave me hope... Absolute leader and warrior, we need more players like him.
His passionate celebration doesn't get any better !!!
Love him
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The Big Ivvy has got married :clapping
Tone Greenberg @TigerlandTone twitter:
"Hearty congrats to big Ivvy, now hitched to the stunning Erin. Maybe he'll miss Rd 19? #9months #manicuredmullet "
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYMCTn1CEAEbUHd.jpg)
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photo taken outside his fortress
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Cotch with Big Ivvy at the wedding ...
(http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/ba00b56a459611e3813a22000a1f8f34_8.jpg)
http://instagram.com/p/gTrsisKz23/#
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Never did get the haircut :lol
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Never did get the haircut :lol
;D I recall the talk was the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -
but srsly Ivan - like a boss :thumbsup
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Has cotch's wedding happened yet?
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Has cotch's wedding happened yet?
Yep
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Has cotch's wedding happened yet?
Yep
Really :nope
You obviously don't follow Cotch on twitter :lol
Never did get the haircut :lol
;D I recall the talk was the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -
but srsly Ivan - like a boss :thumbsup
His "mrs" said at the B&F she didn't mind the mullet and it could and would stay
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Cotch got engaged last summer, doubt he's tied the knot yet.
Good to see the mullet is staying. Obviously his Mrs has realised how important a cult figure is at a club like RFC :)
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Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
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Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Do you mean girl friend or a good ....?
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oh......I meant girl friend
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Connors...
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lol..surprised that answer took so long
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Has cotch's wedding happened yet?
Yep
Really :nope
You obviously don't follow Cotch on twitter :lol
Never did get the haircut :lol
;D I recall the talk was the mrs didn't want a bar of it and it was going for the wedding -
but srsly Ivan - like a boss :thumbsup
His "mrs" said at the B&F she didn't mind the mullet and it could and would stay
shes come around then ;D
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Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Based on him turning up to the Brownlow and B&F with a teammate, it doesn't look like it. Although he posted this on twitter the other day ...
@DustinMartin4 - "LA familia"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYIRL1XCcAAztGA.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/DustinMartin4/status/396898612312961024/photo/1
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Well my 7/10 mate from work who went to one of those functions last year reckons her 10-DD rack didn't get half a glance when she asked him for a photo lol.
If you were Dusty would you want a GF? I'd probably have a new one every round in each city...
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Just out of interest does Dusty have a GF?
Based on him turning up to the Brownlow and B&F with a teammate, it doesn't look like it. Although he posted this on twitter the other day ...
@DustinMartin4 - "LA familia"
LMAO - stuff i love this kid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYIRL1XCcAAztGA.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/DustinMartin4/status/396898612312961024/photo/1
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Big Tiger Maric moving well
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
February 8, 2014 11:00 AM
POST-SEASON groin surgery has freed Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric of the nagging soreness that has plagued him in recent seasons.
The 28-year-old former Adelaide big man has been managing the injury recently, with coach Damien Hardwick admitting last season it was something he'd always have to deal with.
However, an operation at the end of the year has reduced Maric's discomfort and he has trained to a high level throughout the pre-season.
"He had a groin op towards the end of last year but he's been training fully for us," forward line coach Brendon Lade told AFL.com.au on Friday.
"It really helped, the operation.
"He’s a big player for our team and we need him playing."
Maric has still been managed through some sessions and it is yet to be decided what his involvement will be in the NAB Challenge, which starts for Richmond next Friday night against Melbourne.
The Tigers are certainly planning on him being part of their team in round one against Gold Coast on March 15.
The ruckman will no doubt benefit from the acquisition of Shaun Hampson, who is expected to spend time in attack and help Maric around the ground.
"He's loving that he's going to have Hampson around to help him share the load a bit, so we're very excited to get them playing together and playing well because it's going to cause headaches for a few teams," Lade said.
"Having the workload he (Maric) had over the past two years, we probably contributed to the injury as coaches but he was all we had.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-08/big-tiger-gets-some-relief
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This is very good news, let's hope he can have the same impact he did in his first year with us, he actually didn't go too bad last year but you could tell he wasn't right.
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This is very good news, let's hope he can have the same impact he did in his first year with us, he actually didn't go too bad last year but you could tell he wasn't right.
best news ive heard all off season. ivan was always a competitor and does a lot of the little things that never get recognition.
almost the most important cog in the side. been a great pick up and on this i really do congratulate em.
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Maric, Chaplin, Knights are all players we picked up from other clubs who have chronic injury issues or are injury prone.
They have proven to be great pick ups - particularly Chaplin and Maric but my hope is that we are getting more than one or two consistent years of games from them.
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Looks like he'll be underdone early in the season if he had surgery
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Mrakov..you're freaking me out man with those negative vibes....Jump on the tiger bus ,at least for now
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Mrakov..you're freaking me out man with those negative vibes....Jump on the tiger bus ,at least for now
He hasn't trained all pre season, just ran laps. Not being negative, I'm just a realist
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Mrakov I certainly don't want to question nor stop you from having an opinion,but read the article again..it says hes been training fully for us,only that hes been managed through some sessions
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Mrakov I certainly don't want to question nor stop you from having an opinion,but read the article again..it says hes been training fully for us,only that hes been managed through some sessions
Please. He's been running laps only. Hasn't touched a football since that snap goal in the elim final
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Half laps the word is :shh
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McMaric :clapping
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No second fiddle for Tiger Maric
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
April 4, 2014
A PRE-SEASON starved of football due to a pesky ankle injury has left Richmond big man Ivan Maric determined to reclaim the position of his club’s No.1 ruckman in the coming months.
Maric, 28, missed all of the Tigers' pre-season games because of surgery to remove bone spurs that were blocking movement in his right ankle in late February.
In his absence, former Blue Shaun Hampson has stepped up as the main Richmond big man with up-and-coming tall Ben Griffiths also starting the year impressively.
Maric says he won't rush his return from surgery and wants to be fit enough to return as the first-choice ruckman who handles crucial centre bounces.
"When the game is on the line and there's a centre bounce there, I want to be in there," Maric told AFL.com.au this week.
"That's what I want. I want to be that person the coach calls upon when the game's on the line.
"I don't want to come back in after not really having a pre-season and not be able to perform at my best."
Before soreness in Maric's ankle forced the operation over summer, the three Richmond big men were training together.
All three are capable of playing forward, which Maric believes will become part of his own game when he gets back in the seniors.
The former Crow says his history of having to deal with ailments, including a problematic hip in 2007 and 2008 when he was at Adelaide, has taught him how to recover with renewed determination.
"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
"I think that comes with a bit of maturity, and having a few injuries and setbacks at Adelaide has developed that side of my career."
Maric started running two weeks ago and will slowly build up, with the next week to determine how quickly – three, four or five weeks – he can push to play.
Having not played a game since the Tigers' elimination final loss to Carlton last year, he acknowledged he would likely start in the VFL.
And, having watched West Coast combine ruckmen Dean Cox, Nic Naitanui and Callum Sinclair in rounds one and two, Maric is anticipating he will form part of a new ruck trio for the Tigers.
"It's been really hard [watching] but really exciting because Shaun's doing really well and is a great person," he said.
"You could tell that straight away from his first day and then guys like Ben Griffiths are really doing well.
"Ben’s body's coping really well and he's training really well and has had a good pre-season so he's been playing that second ruck role.
"It's been exciting to watch."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-04/maric-im-no-1-ruckman
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Love his determination..
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Can't wait for his return !! He is crucial to our team.. No just his position but the leader ship he brings. Remember that goal in the final against Carlton ? Gives me goose bumps. He will create selection problems which isn't really a bad thing. I reckon hampson will be stuck in the 2's and he will be fighting for griffo's spot. Great for the team and hopefully the right people are rewarded for form.
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Can't wait for his return !! He is crucial to our team.. No just his position but the leader ship he brings. Remember that goal in the final against Carlton ? Gives me goose bumps. He will create selection problems which isn't really a bad thing. I reckon hampson will be stuck in the 2's and he will be fighting for griffo's spot. Great for the team and hopefully the right people are rewarded for form.
Makes 21 other blokes walk taller and play better.
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Surely maric and griff both play in the best side
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Surely maric and griff both play in the best side
yep hampson does too bye bye vickery bye bye son. ;)
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in. It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
what are you on about?
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Does he still have that haircut?
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in. It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.
Bellchambers placed on long term injury list
Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.
Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.
The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)
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The Big O will have his work cut out for him this week. Minson was the premier 'crash and bash' ruckman of the league last year. Maric matched up well on Minson in the past and allowed our midfielders to win the ball off their own merit rather than have to rove to the oppositions taps. I :pray the Big O can create a nil all draw in the middle to allow us a similar luxury.
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God I hope so per subject!
Think the mincer will kill us around ground gotta nullify with griff and other tells at each end
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I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in. It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
Not sure what you mean :huh
Players can be placed on the LTI anytime during the year.
Use Kruzner of the blues as example, he can be out on the LTI now and the Blues can promote a rookie.
We were able to promote 2 rookies before the season started because we are 2 short on our senior list
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in. It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.
Bellchambers placed on long term injury list
Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.
Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.
The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)
Can someone definitively clear this up?
Bc some posters(myself included) are of the same opinion as smokey, whereas others like yabb think it works differently. If we could have elevated him when he first did it, then the clubs has been silly, if you can only begin frtom rnd 1 and have to miss at least 8 weeks then the club made the right decision. Can anyone clarify?
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My quote was taken from the official Essendon site Tony so I'm assuming if they did it with Bellchambers on Feb 10th then we could have done it with Maric 2 weeks later.
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our onballers should be roving/ruckroving (for want of better terms) to Minson today. I dont expect alot from Stephenson today.
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"I suppose it's being a bit more mature about it, having an end goal and a vision of where I want to be at in two months time, [rather] then being really focused on the present and living and training in the moment," he said.
Coming up to four weeks since the rookie elevations.
The idea of promoting Orren via the LTIL rule looks stronger and stronger.
Still that's what the rule is for so why would we use it. :banghead
I thought that the LTI option could only be activated at the start of the year so we are only 2 weeks in. It would mean that we would have to wait another six weeks before we could put Maric into the team!
Makes our move look good. :clapping
Essendon placed Bellchambers on the LTI List on Feb 10, 2 weeks before Maric went for his op so I don't think thats the case.
Bellchambers placed on long term injury list
Essendon ruckman Tom Bellchambers has today been placed on the club’s long-term injury list, paving the way for one of the club’s rookies to be elevated to the senior list.
Bellchambers is expected to miss at least the first month of the home and away season after having surgery on his injured left ankle.
The club can now select a rookie-listed player to replace Bellchambers on the senior list.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-02-10/bellchambers-placed-on-long-term-injury-list)
Can someone definitively clear this up?
Bc some posters(myself included) are of the same opinion as smokey, whereas others like yabb think it works differently. If we could have elevated him when he first did it, then the clubs has been silly, if you can only begin frtom rnd 1 and have to miss at least 8 weeks then the club made the right decision. Can anyone clarify?
The rules do not stipulate anything about being in the season proper, just that the AFL medical officer must approve that the injury is one that requires at least 8 weeks out
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cheers guys
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Ivan Maric two weeks away
Brent Diamond
The Age
May 3, 2014
The Tigers plan to give ruckman Ivan Maric some game time in his return from an ankle injury against Box Hill in two weeks.
The Tigers have missed Maric but have been cautious with the former Crow since his pre-season ankle surgery.
“Ivan’s joined in training with the main group this week, which is great, he’s feeling really good. We’re looking hopefully to get him some game time in the VFL after the bye,” Tigers elite performance manager Peter Burge said.
It would mean Maric’s likely AFL return would be either in round 10 against Greater Western Sydney or round 11 against Essendon.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/nathan-foley-to-return-in-vfl-on-sunday-ivan-maric-two-weeks-away-20140502-zr39t.html
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Slight error folks, he's due back in 2-3 weeks
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I will expect 4-6 then
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Should have 2 if not 3 games in the VFL, cant risk this bloke.
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He'll play seniors vs GWS...
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I like the bit about "Elite performance Manager Peter Burge".
Must be on permanent holidays as I haven't seen any elite performance that has needed to be managed all year!! :lol
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I will expect 4-6 then
Weeks or seasons?
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Should play Seniors against Nought on June 8 then.
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Footy Classified interviewed Big Ivan today and he said he thought he would only be out for 6-8 weeks but the recovery has taken longer than he initially thought. He now just wants to dominate in the VFL so the coaches are forced to pick him for the seniors.
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He also mentioned he was 2-3 weeks away
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Maric to return via VFL
Mitch Cleary
May 13, 2014
Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his first appearance of the year in the VFL this weekend after a start to the season hampered by ankle setbacks.
"I‘m going to play about a half in the VFL on Saturday. It’s been a bit of a wait but I’m really looking forward to it," Maric told Footy Classified.
"My ankle is feeling 100 per cent, the best it’s felt for a very long time. I did some really hard training last week and it’s pulled up well. I’m confident going into this week," he said.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-13/maric-to-return-via-vfl
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Should play vs GWS
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Should play vs GWS
This year or next year?
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Maric to return via VFL
Mitch Cleary
May 13, 2014
Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric is set to make his first appearance of the year in the VFL this weekend after a start to the season hampered by ankle setbacks.
"I‘m going to play about a half in the VFL on Saturday. It’s been a bit of a wait but I’m really looking forward to it," Maric told Footy Classified.
"My ankle is feeling 100 per cent, the best it’s felt for a very long time. I did some really hard training last week and it’s pulled up well. I’m confident going into this week," he said.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-05-13/maric-to-return-via-vfl
Hope he plays well. We have really missed him.
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Hardwick also said it was likely Ivan Maric would need more than one VFL game, with the ruckman to play 60 minutes this weekend, after overcoming a pre-season ankle injury.
Given Maric and new ruckman Shaun Hampson haven't trained together, let alone played together, Hardwick admitted it could take time for their partnership to jell when they were both in the seniors.
[http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-16/in-the-name-of-tommy#sthash.7BeZ7BCL.dpuf
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Bruce said that we could use Derrickx with Ivan out
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Good Luck big fella, have a great game
:gotigers
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Bruce said that we could use Derrickx with Ivan out
Is that why WAT thinks Derickx is a gun now? Angus Graham gives more than Derickx and probably more than Hampson as well. Or maybe all 3 are just equally poo.
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Our spiritual leader is back on the footy field. Good luck today Ivan. :clapping :clapping
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Our spiritual leader is back on the footy field. Good luck today Ivan. :clapping :clapping
Thats exactly how I view him :thumbsup Good Luck! :cheers
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Football manager Dan Richardson said it was great to see Maric back on the field, but that he would not be rushed back.
“He got through three quarters and pulled up well, so we’ll look to give him more minutes at VFL level this week before we make a decision on his availability for AFL selection,” he said,
“Ivan is obviously an important player for us, but we want to make sure he is ready to perform at AFL level, and not rush him back too early.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-not-to-be-rushed-back-from-injury-anthony-miles-upgraded-nick-vlastuin-brakes-finger/story-fndv8t7m-1226924099996
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If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.
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If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.
Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.
Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Not all captains need to be stategic masterminds.
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If there's one player I actually wouldn't mind Cotchin handing over the captaincy too, it's this bloke.
Tough player but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Not all captains need to be stategic masterminds.
No but they do need to do a lot more than just lead on the field.
It won't happen.
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Hope he gets his jump and marking ability back soon
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Hope he gets his jump and marking ability back soon
He looked lame on Saturday night. I hope he was just underdone. :pray
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First game back at this level.
Having missed the first 9 I don't expect much from him until we win our meaningless ones from about round 17-23.
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Will be better for a run under the belt, reports from track watchers are he s been training the house down :shh
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So have so many others apparently BJ.
On game day however they burn the house down. :help
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Not much commentary on Big Ivvy but I thought he looked better against the Swans. Hopefully starting to turn things around.
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Agreed, seems to be moving more freely now.
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He is already moving 5 times faster than Hampson and his positional play is getting back to its best.
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I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.
His marking around the ground has returned. Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
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I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.
His marking around the ground has returned. Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.
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I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.
His marking around the ground has returned. Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.
Yes please any of the above options or any other option for that matter
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What annoys me is that Hampson was supposedly a good mark >:(
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Thought Ivan was excellent on Friday night.
Never question the leadership he brings. :clapping
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I thought he had turned the corner against Freo.
His marking around the ground has returned. Now if we can only drop Hampson we can actually have 18 players on the ground competing!
We can bring in McBean to play forward instead of Hampson. Lets face it, McBean at his worst has still got to be a better option than Hampson up forward. The guy just can't mark to save his life.
Bring back Strawbs O'Dwyer :bow
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THE BIG PIE VAN !
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What annoys me is that Hampson was supposedly a good mark >:(
Hampson has never been a good mark, he was affectionately referred to as Cymbal Hands by Carlton supporters.
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With Maric and miles in the side , it's no co incidence out contested ball win has gone off the scale :shh
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With Maric and miles in the side , it's no co incidence out contested ball win has gone off the scale :shh
Supercallafragellasticexpealadoshious
The rest still play like Mary Poppins.
Would help if Dumma put his best five clearance specialists in there instead of blokes like Titch & Pettard.
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having titch in the middle is akin to having percy panda in there.....useless
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Watching Ivan improve his movement so rapidly just frustrates me even more that this decision wasn't made LAST preseason, let alone feb this preseason.
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Supercallafragellasticexpealadoshious
The rest still play like Mary Poppins.
:lol :lol :lol :bow
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Danny Daly talking about Maric:
* It’s obviously no secret that we missed Ivvy while he was out. He’s just starting to find some form and fitness, so hopefully he can continue that this week. His ability to get around the ground, lose his opponent ruckman and take marks is crucial for us. Also, he can go forward when Ty comes into the ruck. We’ve got great faith in his ability to take marks, especially the long, down-the-line ones. We speak about contested football through the midfield and this is where it’s at. The ability to mark the footy means that the ball’s not hitting the deck. He runs about 13km a game so it’s not only his ability to get around the ground and take marks. Defensively, he works just as hard as most of our midfielders.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-26/spotlight-on-round-15
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Defensively he works harder than these midfielders. Ellis, Titch, Grigg, :help
These Forwards, Vickery, Edwards, Riewoldt, :help
Hampspud and add Chaplin, Houli, Newman. :help
We only ski downhill no wonder other sides get run ons against us. :help
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Danny Daly talking about Maric:
* It’s obviously no secret that we missed Ivvy while he was out. He’s just starting to find some form and fitness, so hopefully he can continue that this week. His ability to get around the ground, lose his opponent ruckman and take marks is crucial for us. Also, he can go forward when Ty comes into the ruck. We’ve got great faith in his ability to take marks, especially the long, down-the-line ones. We speak about contested football through the midfield and this is where it’s at. The ability to mark the footy means that the ball’s not hitting the deck. He runs about 13km a game so it’s not only his ability to get around the ground and take marks. Defensively, he works just as hard as most of our midfielders.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-26/spotlight-on-round-15
Any chance we could work on a GOOD replacement then rather than the spuds like Hampson, Big O, Xman, Vickers, Griffiths and Unco's we have been trotting out
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Got thrashed today by Longer. Worst game he has played for the tigers.
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Ivan Maric's standing in Richmond's side cannot be underestimated.
Maric's absence for the first 10 rounds of the season as he recovered from ankle surgery left a gaping hole in Richmond's lineup.
Now with six games under his belt, Maric is starting to come into his own.
His battle with Lions ruckman Stefan Martin was intriguing and Maric said he relished the challenge.
"I love getting into that zone where I'm absolutely hurting and my mind wants me to stop and I just keep going.
"I believe that if can play in that zone for longer than my opponent I can eventually wear him down, but it was a good duel with Stef today."
The mentality of doing "the little things" had deserted the Tigers in the early stages of this season, Maric said.
But the Tigers ruckman saw signs in the win over the Lions that made him think things were starting to turn.
"I believe it happens at training. You have to do it at training. You've got to train your mind because there's times in the game where you're going to hurt," he said.
"Your legs are burning and you've got to say, 'Shut up legs' and just keep running, find and then stop your opponent."
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-06/tys-the-guy)
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Moving like Damien Monkhurst.
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Rd19 upcoming milestones:
50 RFC club games – Ivan Maric.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
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Must get 100 games into this fella
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What did we all think of Big Ivan's RFC 50th?
The official stats rated his battle with Mumford all square.
Player K H D CP UP DE% CLG M CM M50 HO CLR CC ST R50 FF FA T 1% Bo I50 G B GA G% TG% AF
Ivan Maric 8 3 11 9 2 90.9 0 3 1 0 26 3 1 2 0 3 0 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 86 72
Shane Mumford 3 12 15 10 4 93.3 3 3 1 0 22 4 1 3 0 1 3 4 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 84 72
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2014/19/rich-v-gws
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Would be my choice as captain of the team.
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Magical Maric: The power behind Richmond's resurgence
Travis King
afl.com.au
August 3, 2014 10:00 AM
TALISMANIC ruckman Ivan Maric has been the driving force behind Richmond's resurgence, teammate Ricky Petterd says.
Maric returned from pre-season ankle surgery when Richmond started sinking to its lowest ebb in an embarrassing 50-point loss to Essendon in the 'Dreamtime at the 'G' encounter in round 11.
The Tigers tumbled to four-straight losses and a 3-10 record, but prospects have improved dramatically at Punt Rd since.
So much so that Richmond is suddenly an outside finals chance after winning five-straight matches.
While Maric's comeback has been important on gameday, he's also demanded more from his teammates on the training track.
"I think big 'Ivey' runs it pretty well. He expects us to be the best and that's what we strive to be," Petterd told AFL.com.au.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-03/maric-the-miracle-worker
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Would be my choice as captain of the team.
x 2
Just a natural leader, show it on and off the field :clapping
And it doesn't effect his game either, just keeps doing what he always done
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I am just incredulous at these articles.
How many people have to come out and say the standards weren't high enough before the penny drops.
The stuffing ruckman doesn't drive standards, the coaching staff do.
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I am just incredulous at these articles.
How many people have to come out and say the standards weren't high enough before the penny drops.
The stuffing ruckman doesn't drive standards, the coaching staff do.
Hard to argue with that.....
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yep cant argue with that
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Ivan's best game since his terrific 2012 season. His presenting, marking and influence around the ground was massive last night.
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Ivan the Lion heart always gives 120 % .If Hampson had half of that :banghead.This guy is so important to our side and it showed when he missed the start of the year.
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Leigh Matthews said he is our spiritual leader
Ain't that the truth
Easily our most important/influential player
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Leigh Matthews said he is our spiritual leader
Ain't that the truth
Easily our most important/influential player
Barney pretty much summed it up perfectly about Ivan. :thumbsup
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Great second half, looked to be lacking confidence in his body or had a niggle in the first half. Anyone else notice
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Best game since pre groin troubles. Fully fit this guy is a dominant ruckman.
TM - I don't think it was a niggle - Ryder was just jumping all over him 1st qtr and Ivan wore him down as the game went on
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Lot of heart from this guy last night.
Thought his goal after the siren was really fitting.
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Just didn't stop going :clapping. Probably helped that Griff looked to spend a lot of time in the ruck compared to Vickery. Can never question his endeavor
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Robbo talking about Maric in his 'likes' column:
2. Ivan Maric.
Knew ‘’Evaaaan’’ was important, but didn’t know he had quietly slipped to the top of the class in terms of morale and inspiration. Plenty to like about the Tigers on Friday night — their pressure was extreme after half-time — and it was Ivan who monstered them over the line. He was super against Patrick Ryder in the final quarter and it was fitting he kicked the goal after the siren to be mobbed by teammates. Clubs talk about process, strategy and tactics when a lot of the time it comes down to spirit.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/the-tackle-herald-sun-chief-football-writer-mark-robinson-nominates-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-20/story-fnect155-1227020074626
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Damien Barrett's latest Sliding Doors article .....
IF ....... we are to admit guilt on seriously underestimating the worth of one player to his team in 2014.
THEN .... it is because we just didn't realise how much ticker big Ivan has. Just love how he talked it up and then delivered. And stats tell us since start of 2013, the Tigers are 19-11 II (Ivan in), 5-7 IO (Ivan out).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-15/sliding-doors-round-21
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Ol Big Lungs :clapping
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Thanks Bin Boy Barrett for stating the bleeding obvious :thumbsup
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The stuffing stuff stuff
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How IS the lagging dog.
Says "We" not I.
*see James Hird.
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Tigers walk taller alongside Ivan Maric, a spiritual leader
By Peter Hanlon
Newcastle Herald (Fairfax media)
Aug. 15, 2014, 4 p.m.
That Ivan Maric makes Richmond better is an understanding that reaches beyond football, draping a sense of how things should be done over this famous club like, well, a mullet spilling over broad shoulders. "I really admire him," says captain Trent Cotchin, who is proud to call Maric one of his closest friends at Tigerland.
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"I think the simplest way to put it with Ivvy is the way he lives and breathes in his personal life - with regard to the care he shows everyone, his morals as a person - that's pretty well reflected in the way he plays his footy and what he expects of others."
The ruckman's comments three weeks ago that Richmond's 3-10 start to the season had stemmed from poor standards on the training track and around the club were jarring, but nothing everyone at Punt Road hadn't already heard him say. One long-time football department staffer reckons speaking up would have been in "no-brainer" territory for Maric. "He's the one, if things aren't going right, he'll get up and say so at a team meeting."
Assistant coach Brendon Lade - who for Port Adelaide rucked against Maric in the 28-year-old's debut for Adelaide in 2006 - echoes Cotchin's observation that everything he says and does is geared towards the betterment of individual and team.
"Being around he and his wife (Erin) a lot, seeing him at home, he's stubborn as all men can be," Lade says. "At the club, whatever it takes to be the best he can be, he'll do it. If that means telling a coach, another player, an admin staffer that they're not doing their job properly, he'll do it.
"That's the challenge for the rest of our group - to make sure they keep doing that as well. He's setting a very good example, and we need to make sure as a group that we keep following it."
Analysis of where a season of great promise went so wrong pretty much starts with Maric's February surgery to remove spurs from his ankle. By the time he returned in round 11, finals talk had been usurped by crisis talk; fully up and going, he has been at the heart of a belated charge that faces its biggest do-or-die moment against the Crows on Saturday night.
Maric spent seven seasons toiling for 77 games in Adelaide, arriving in the 2004 draft with Jonathon Griffin and John Meesen, joining Matthew Clarke, Rhett Biglands and Ben Hudson. If the air really is thinner up there for ruckmen, there were so many competing for oxygen in his rookie years it's a wonder someone didn't pass out.
Hudson and Maric share a manager, and when his move to the Bulldogs cleared the Crows' big-man traffic jam, Hudson joked that Maric should pay him 10 per cent of all future earnings. "For whatever reason he wasn't given a go at being the number one in Adelaide, but he's thrived on the responsibility since," Hudson says. "He's just grown."
Cotchin recalls watching a highlights package before Maric's 100th game last season, and struggling with the image of his mate in a Crows jumper (the bowl haircut Lade remembers him sporting probably didn't help). "It almost didn't seem like him, just didn't seem right," Cotchin says.
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He concedes that the distinctive, high-kneed gait has always been there, adding to the imposing figure he becomes when wound up. But he can picture Maric only in yellow and black.
His talismanic quality appeals to Tony Jewell, the Tigers' last premiership coach, who believes one thing about the game that hasn't changed is the value of filling your team with as many genuinely tough blokes as can stretch a jumper over their torsos. Jewell loved playing alongside and later coaching Francis Bourke - "he was like a security blanket, you just drew strength off him" - and sees the same qualities in Maric.
"He looks like the spiritual leader," Jewell says, adding that he sees a bit of former Hawk Don Scott in him, too. "When he's up and running and getting excited, pushing forward, he's dragging the whole side along with him.
"There's not too many ruckmen in the AFL at the moment who you'd say are as influential in an aggressive way as he is. Having these big, steely, strong blokes around you as you're about to run down the race on to the ground, I just reckon people draw on them."
Cotchin is happy to share the leadership load, and says he bounces ideas off Maric all the time. Cotchin thinks people who jump to conclusions miss Maric's depth; Maric speaks slowly, deliberately and in disarmingly soothing tones, and some confuse length of the message's delivery with uncertainty over what to say.
"He just really takes his time to say what he wants to say," Cotchin says. "It has a really positive impact now, the way he speaks. He has so much respect within our footy club, and in more recent times in the whole AFL competition."
He shares the Jewell ethos, walking taller at centre bounces, "knowing the bloke to your right hand side is really going to give you his best". It makes Maric a treasured teammate. "That's why we love him."
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2490531/tigers-walk-taller-alongside-ivan-maric-a-spiritual-leader/?cs=12
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Huge contest this week against probably the inform ruckman of the comp Jacobs
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king hit
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Jacobs mentally tougher than the pansy Ryder, reckon Ivan's in for a bath. Not that he won't try his heart out though
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I enjoyed reading that :thumbsup
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Big Lungs :cheers
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Richmond AFL ruckman Ivan Maric kicking early goals as St Albans Soccer Club president
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/richmond-afl-ruckman-ivan-maric-kicking-early-goals-as-st-albans-soccer-club-president/story-fngnvog3-1227251366343
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Ruckman Ivan Maric, who has benefited from a reduced training load this pre-season, dominated the hit-outs early before he was substituted out at three-quarter time.
After missing the 29-year-old for the first 10 rounds last year because of an ankle injury, the Tigers are excited about launching the season with Maric driving their midfield.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-16/cotchin-still-on-track)
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Fantastic game yesterday, his attack on the opposition and ball a highlight for me.
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Yeah good game - can be a bit of a slow & clumsy liabilty in general play at times but the fact that he isn't a lot more often is testament his never say die attitude.
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Still taps the ball too the opposition alot :thumbsdown Needs to be more aware of where he is rucking too.
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How quickly people forget Gus, Patto and the last two years of the Snake Handler....
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Throw in the Xman and the Knob
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Big Ivan was interviewed on 3aw ...
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-19/maric-on-3aw-19th-may
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Shame he didn't nail those goals but did well
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Played a great game tonight. big marks down back a highlight.
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When we were under the pump in the 3rd took 2 or 3 big strong contested marks :clapping
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B.O.G. :clapping
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Was a star today ....getting back to 2012 form
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Maric is the in-form ruckman of the competition according to Supercoach:
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Meanwhile, other rucks are going the other way, headed by Tiger Ivan Maric who has scored at least 120 in four of his past five games.
RUCKS — 3-ROUND AVERAGE
129 Ivan Maric ($559,200)
120 Stefan Martin ($586,200)
114 Shane Mumford ($552,800)
112 Mark Blicavs ($509,100)
109 Sam Jacobs ($550,300)
104 Aaron Sandilands ($473,600)
95 Tom Nicholls ($416,300)
92 Matthew Lobbe ($451,800
91 Jake Spencer ($344,300)
87 Zac Clarke ($429,100)
85 Nic Naitanui ($428,300)
81 Todd Goldstein ($527,800)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-market-watch-rucks-on-the-rise-but-what-happened-to-todd-goldstein-in-round-8/story-fni5f3gz-1227370930372
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Geez and most on here had him sent to the knackers
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Geez and most on here had him sent to the knackers
bring back Gus :shh
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Loving the big man's effort and form this year, but that list is a bit silly.
Would rather have any of Mumford, Jacobs, Lobbe, NicNat or Goldstein for pure rucking ability.
Would even be very interested in Martin and Blicavs for their around-ground ability.
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Lobbe?
Maric bathed him on he weekend
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He didn't really give him a bath at all. Maric's effort was enormous because of the ruck load he had to take with Griff went down.
Lobbe ended up with 29 hit outs and 10 tackles. Hardly a poor effort.
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Agree to disagree.
Wouldn't be holding up Lobbe as any sort of shining ruck example.
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Stuff the stats Lobbe was poo
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Main point is that Maric is enjoying a purple patch. I like the bloke.
Just don't see him as one of the premier ruckman in the AFL.
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Credit where credit is due, whoever decided to recruit Maric, :clapping, BTW how is Soldo going?
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Credit where credit is due, whoever decided to recruit Maric, :clapping, BTW how is Soldo going?
Soldo is playing in the TAC Cup this year for the Northern Knights.
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=198475532&client=1-118-58943-339768-20320231&ocompID=339768 (http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=198475532&client=1-118-58943-339768-20320231&ocompID=339768)
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Ivan had 7 clearances and 3 centre clearances from his own ruckwork last night.
15 disposals (10 contested, 80% efficiency)
2 marks
7 clearances (centre 3, stoppage 4)
23 hitouts
3 tackles
2 rebound 50s
1 inside 50
And he cleans up the changerooms after the game. Big Ivan can do everything ;D.
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Ivan had 7 clearances and 3 centre clearances from his own ruckwork last night.
15 disposals (10 contested, 80% efficiency)
2 marks
7 clearances (centre 3, stoppage 4)
23 hitouts
3 tackles
2 rebound 50s
1 inside 50
And he cleans up the changerooms after the game. Big Ivan can do everything ;D.
:snidegrin
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Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??
A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer
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Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??
A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer
need to throw the kitchen sink at kreuzer
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Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential
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Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential
id take the risk
we need a highly rated young ruckman
hampson gives me nightmares
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Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??
A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer
Just on that, what is Soldo doing? Has he been playing anywhere?
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Very good player is Ivan so I do wonder where is our next Ivan going to come from??
A scary proposition to think our next best ruck is hammer
need to throw the kitchen sink at kreuzer
Doesn't he have enough injuries without throwing a sink at him.. :whistle
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If we got Kruezer and he stayed fit it'd be great but I fear he would just be a more expensive replacment for Knights in our rehab group and not sure we can afford that. Be interesting to see if & when he comes back this year whether he can stay on the park and also how he plays.
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What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.
He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.
There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.
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What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.
He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.
There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.
the obsession is outside maric we only have:
Soldo, Ivan (R)
Hampson, Shaun
Griffiths, Benjamin
Vickery, Tyrone
Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.
Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.
ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.
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pretty sure andy was questioning the who, not the why?
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pretty sure andy was questioning the who, not the why?
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there are not many young, talented ruck man that are available
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We really should have targeted Longer over Hampson
Younger, developing can take a grab ;D
Would have been a much better option long term IMHO
We need to try and find one like that a this year's trade period
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Would love to target Sinclair from the eagles. A lot of upside there and a Victorian boy as well. One of my colleagues knew the family. All the boys could play a bit but young Callum was far and away the best of them.
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Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential
id take the risk
we need a highly rated young ruckman
hampson gives me nightmares
Don't think he's highly rated nor young anymore
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Agree with this on the condition we clear his fitness. We have hopefully learnt our lesson about recruiting broken bodies with potential
id take the risk
we need a highly rated young ruckman
hampson gives me nightmares
Don't think he's highly rated nor young anymore
He is heading into his best years as a ruckman though and he won't cost us anywhere near as much as Kreuzer.
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Kreuzer won't cost as much as Kruezer?
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Kreuzer won't cost as much as Kruezer?
Sorry. I thought they were referring to my suggestion of Callum Sinclair. :rollin
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Tom Nicholls.
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What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.
He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.
There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.
the obsession is outside maric we only have:
Soldo, Ivan (R)
Hampson, Shaun
Griffiths, Benjamin
Vickery, Tyrone
Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.
Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.
ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.
Yes we need another ruckman. I feel I've been quite vocal about this for the last 18 months at least.
Doesn't mean I'm going to put a washed up, broken down, ex-no.1 draft pick like Kreuzer (who was at his best just a solid ruckman) up on a pedestal for us to aim the sink at. He's not even 'young' anymore - he's 26 and has played 100-odd games. Certainly not a basket I wanna put all my eggs in.
Soldo, who knows...
Hampson is a great tap ruckman, but nothing else...
Vickery hasn't been developed as a ruckman, which is a shame...
Griffiths is a pinch-hitter only...
McBean isn't a ruckman...
So we either need to get another cheap interim ruckman who can stay on the park, or a premier ruckman who can help us win a flag, and definitely a young bloke to shape up. Kreuzer is neither of these things. Cheap ruckman would have included Jonathan Giles, Stefan Martin etc. Young ruckman would have been Longer (who suggested that??? haha).
Throwing the sink at Kreuzer is sillier than suggesting Taylor Hunt is a better player than Grigg this year...
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What is this obsession with Kreuzer? Sounds like people want to chase a player just for the sake of doing 'something'.
He hasn't played football with any consistency since 2013, and even then he was a B grade ruckman. B+ at best.
There is nothing relevant (IE recent) to suggest he will be any better a recruit than Hampson. Just like Knights - it of a has-been all broken down with injury.
the obsession is outside maric we only have:
Soldo, Ivan (R)
Hampson, Shaun
Griffiths, Benjamin
Vickery, Tyrone
Soldo is a long shot. Hampson is a potato. If griffiths reaches his potential you would want him in the forward line promdinatly as to not break him.
Leaving only tyrone, who i like in the ruck, but has (massive) question marks still.
ideally, we would have a former #1 draft pick like kreuzer or a very high draft pick like nicnat, leunburger to replace maric. sadly they do not grow on trees.
Yes we need another ruckman. I feel I've been quite vocal about this for the last 18 months at least.
Doesn't mean I'm going to put a washed up, broken down, ex-no.1 draft pick like Kreuzer (who was at his best just a solid ruckman) up on a pedestal for us to aim the sink at. He's not even 'young' anymore - he's 26 and has played 100-odd games. Certainly not a basket I wanna put all my eggs in.
Soldo, who knows...
Hampson is a great tap ruckman, but nothing else...
Vickery hasn't been developed as a ruckman, which is a shame...
Griffiths is a pinch-hitter only...
McBean isn't a ruckman...
So we either need to get another cheap interim ruckman who can stay on the park, or a premier ruckman who can help us win a flag, and definitely a young bloke to shape up. Kreuzer is neither of these things. Cheap ruckman would have included Jonathan Giles, Stefan Martin etc. Young ruckman would have been Longer (who suggested that??? haha).
Throwing the sink at Kreuzer is sillier than suggesting Taylor Hunt is a better player than Grigg this year...
S Martin wont be cheap
Giles is rubbish
the pool is shallow
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Leueueunberger is the one
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Leueueu
oh no
Sayin' we gotta go, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
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'Berger is either injured or out of form
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Here's the vision of Ivan post-game cleaning up the Richmond room ...
VIDEO: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/watch-footage-of-richmond-ruckman-ivan-maric-cleaning-rubbish-in-changerooms/story-fni5f9jb-1227378593048
THE vision of Ivan Maric walking around the changerooms putting rubbish in a bin on Saturday night caught many by surprise.
But if you look closely you’ll notice that none of his teammates or the Richmond staff are batting an eyelid.
The reason? They’re used to it. Maric is a clean freak and his obsession with having everything in order is well known at Punt Rd.
On match days it’s the tape used for strapping and empty cups that drive the ruckman mad.
If the staff kitchen is left in a state that is not up to his standard during the week, Maric is not afraid to hunt down those responsible.
In fact, he has been known to send out an email to all staff members informing them about any breakdown in his cleanliness policy.
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There I was hoping it was out of respect for the game and an understanding that the game is bigger than any individual or team, and to teach players to be humble he cleans the rooms as a reminder that it's a privilege to play AFL.
Oh well.
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The World according to Ivan ...
VIDEO:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-06-24/the-world-according-to-ivan
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-24/the-world-according-to-ivan
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Ivan on the AFL website ...
Maric said his focus this year has been improving his second and third efforts, and his average contested possessions (9.0) and clearances (4.64) have lifted to career highs as a result.
He said his past two weeks have been tough, but his form overall has been helped by the Tigers' expanded tall forward line, which now includes Ty Vickery and Ben Griffiths as regular fixtures.
"The ruck support improved and it's a lot better, rather than leaving it to one person to do all the ruck work," he said.
"You can't be doing that for a whole season. You really need to share the load.
"It's helped with my impact on the game definitely because you can go hard, recover, and then come back into it.
"I'm the same as our midfielders, we just want to scrap and fight and just compete, compete week after week. I feel like I've done that pretty good so far."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-26/hot-sauce-deserves-more-credit-in-no1-ruck-debate-maric
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President of St Albans SC, Ivan casually slotting it into the bottom corner :lol.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-26/round-13-ivans-soccer-sealer
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President of St Albans SC, Ivan casually slotting it into the bottom corner :lol.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-06-26/round-13-ivans-soccer-sealer
We all laughed and clapped at that last night, brilliant :clapping
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It's ok to struggle against NNat and sandi
But he is looking shot vs nobodies ....
Got woke up by a Molotov cocktail last night , too
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Got woke up by a Molotov cocktail last night , too
MOLOTOV cocktails have been thrown at a family home in a street made notable for its one-time gangland connection and a nearby resident football star.
Nine firebombs were thrown at a house in Primrose St, Essendon, just after 6am, waking several residents including Richmond footballer Ivan Maric.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/explosives-thrown-in-attack-on-family-home-in-essendon/story-fni0fee2-1227429539869
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I'm sure Ivan is very happy everyone now knows where he lives.
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Winding down...
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may not of clunked too many marks up forward, but he ensured their backs didnt either. he bought the ball to ground at nearly every contest, often outnumbered.
not his fault we go beaten at ground level.
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Surely can't play maric AND Angus hampson vs. Proper teams
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well, im still not convinced hampson is not potato,
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They both suck but freo + hawks will blitzkrieg us if we play both :help
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based on todays game, the real damage will come at ground level.
we got smashed at clearances and at the fall of the ball for large portion of the game.
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I think Ivy might be done :-\ Still competes hard but looks very very slow out there. Can't play primarily as a forward as well.
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I think Ivy might be done :-\ Still competes hard but looks very very slow out there. Can't play primarily as a forward as well.
Maric and Chaplin on the ground at the same time is a worry
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Moving like a glacier at the moment.
Sure he brought a couple of balls to ground but some of them should have been marks.
I'd play Hampson on form.
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Apologies to Ivan - I thought he was done.
He has been epic the last couple of weeks. Maybe the week off was a blessing in disguise . Maybe the threat of losing his spot to big Hammer has motivated him
What ever it is - big Ivan has been terrific .
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Looked a lot less slow
Praise Allah
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Playing good footy. Reckon Hampson gave him a scare ;D
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Ruck and roll with Ivan Maric
richmondfc.com.au
August 19, 2015 3:27 PM
Inspirational Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric provided an interesting insight into what makes him tick on this week’s episode of the Club’s official podcast, ‘Talking Tigers’. Here are Maric’s well-considered opinions on a variety of football-related matters . . .
On his form this season
“There was a month there where it was really hard against some very good ruckmen, with (Aaron) Sandilands and (Nic) Natanui . . . (Shaun) Hampson coming in to give us a bit of a hand was really good. I’ve focused on trying to impact up forward, so that’s been good the last month or so (five goals in his past five games). I’m just trying to be really consistent.”
Read more from the interview here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-08-19/ruck-and-roll-with-ivan-maric
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Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.
Terrible game by the acting captain.
Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game
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Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.
Terrible game by the acting captain.
Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game
We can't play Maric against Goldstein. That's just asking to be slaughtered. The Hampster should be the choice against Nought. It might even freshen Ivan up for the next week.
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Getting his pants pulled down by a skinny little kid.
Terrible game by the acting captain.
Goldstein will slaughter him next week if he doesn't pick up his game
We can't play Maric against Goldstein. That's just asking to be slaughtered. The Hampster should be the choice against Nought. It might even freshen Ivan up for the next week.
Hampster? massive pass from me. He should never pull on our jumper again! Has done nothing the last few weeks at VFL level and has the worst attitude towards his fellow players :banghead
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Hampson would be a liability if brought in against North.
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Big Ivan has hit the big 3 0 :birthday.
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belated
and welcome to over the hill...?
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If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
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If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
Played a bit of AFL in your time did ya?
hehehe
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If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
Are you an b-a grade afl ruckman?
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I know it was a practice game but I thought he was terrible in his first hit out yesterday. I hope he improves for round 1, we need a competitive ruckman and i don't want to see Hamspud running around in yellow and black either.
As a leader I think Maric has a lot to prove this season considering the poor performances in finals thus far especially last years effort against north was bloody disgraceful.
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I'm not sure Ivy can jump any more. Will give it his all but will continue to struggle against the more athletic types.
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If 30 is over the hill then I must be over a seriously big mountain!
The big fellas got another 4 -5 years in him yet :thumbsup and he still has room for improvement as well.
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Don't be absurd.
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I'm not sure Ivy can jump any more. Will give it his all but will continue to struggle against the more athletic types.
Hasn't been able to jump since probably 2013.
Shaun Hampson actually leaps and contends the ruck a lot better but unfortunately offers less around the ground.
Between them they're one decent ruckman, and generally a liability in our aspirations for a flag IMO.
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If they were playing high jump and not football Hampson may be a viable option
But alas
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If they were playing high jump and not football Hampson may be a viable option
But alas
Exactly, and if we were playing rugby and all Maric had to do was run into people it would be great.
Shame our club really hasn't chased down a better ruck option over the last two years. Maric will probably have one solid season left in him and Hampson apparently has a dicky knee that won't get better.
With options like Zac Smith going to Geelong so cheaply we really should have taken a shot at a young one...
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Z smith
Lburger
Kreuzer
wtf Richmond
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Forgotten Tiger Ivan Maric back to face Power
AFL.com.au
30 June 2016
RUCKMAN Ivan Maric is back in Richmond's team for the first time since round six after Shaun Hampson was not able to recover in time from a knee injury.
Hampson hurt his right knee in the dying minutes of last Saturday's win against the Brisbane Lions and was also affected by the flu during the week.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick is confident Maric could perform in Friday night's clash against Port Adelaide – in what will be only his third AFL game for the season.
"Shaun won't play this week. It's obviously been a short week for us," Hardwick said at the airport on Thursday.
"(Maric has) been in good form at VFL level, so it's great to have the big fella back."
“Both are going to be valuable contributors for us going forward.”
The Power have been using defender Jackson Trengove as their primary big man after Matthew Lobbe and Dougal Howard succumbed to knee injuries. Former Bomber Paddy Ryder is serving a season-long suspension for doping.
Hardwick said there was a combination of reasons for vice-captain's absence from the senior team.
"In fairness, he was injured through the pre-season and Shaun just grabbed that spot. Possession's nine-tenths of the law," Hardwick said.
"Shaun actually performed pretty well and Ivan was probably a little slow to get up and going."
Maric, 30, hasn't played at any level for more than two weeks, in a match against Werribee on July 12. The Tigers had the VFL bye a fortnight ago while Maric sat out last week as a precaution after Hampson was injured in the AFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-30/forgotten-tiger-ivan-maric-back-to-face-power
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(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)
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(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)
:clapping
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(https://s32.postimg.org/on2zaqd7p/image.jpg)
He'll probably have his contract extended by the end of the week.
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Unfair to play him. Just embarrassing the poor bloke now and destroying his legacy. Let him see out his days peacefully in the VFL then maybe give him a farewell in Round 23 - preferably as a stay at home FF.
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his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys body over the years.
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Reality and fact are
That the poor bloke should of been tapped on the shoulder at the end of last year
As should of Chaplin
Clubs fault
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his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys body over the years.
^^
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his demise is largely due to dimwit and his panel of duds that have destroying this guys body over the years.
^^
Get your answer on how Hampson being out made a difference?????
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Unfair to play him. Just embarrassing the poor bloke now and destroying his legacy. Let him see out his days peacefully in the VFL then maybe give him a farewell in Round 23 - preferably as a stay at home FF.
Agreed. Felt for him last night. Looked like a triple bagel at 3 qtr time.
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Sadly Ivan has suffered a career ending injury several seasons back & can't overcome it.
His body has had enough & its not as if he has not trained hard to try get back. His just done unless a miracle happens
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Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake
Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
July 9, 2016
THREE-TIME premiership Hawk Brian Lake says Ivan Maric’s AFL career is seemingly over, with the ruckman unlikely to be on Richmond’s list next season.
Maric was dropped from the Tigers’ line-up to take on the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night, following a two-disposal effort against Port Adelaide in Round 15.
After featuring in 22 of a possible 23 games in 2015, the 30-year-old has played just three games so far this season, with the Tigers opting for Shaun Hampson to be the No. 1 ruckman and Ben Griffiths as the back-up.
In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.
Lake said Maric, who’s out of contract at the end of the 2016 AFL season, was unlikely to be on the Tigers’ list in 2017.
“Unfortunately, I think ‘The Mullet’ is gone,” Lake told Fox Sports News’ AFL Tonight.
“The game’s just changed … when you’re a ruckman now you’ve got to do a bit more than just the tap work. You’ve got to contribute around the ground.
“Just look at Jackson Trengove from Port Adelaide, he’s not a designated ruckman but he can provide the centre clearances, around the ground marks and he’s more mobile.”
Ever since crossing over the Punt Road from Adelaide ahead of the 2012 season, Maric has been a faithful and respected servant at Richmond.
He had a career-best season in 2012 and finished third in the club’s best and fairest count. A month later, he was added to the Tigers’ leadership group then appointed vice-captain alongside Brett Deledio at the start of the 2015 season.
But with the Tigers’ 2016 finals hopes in tatters, Lake said Maric was likely going to be part of a Richmond list clean-out come season’s end.
“We see some ruckmen now and it’s just past their time. They can’t move and they can’t jump as well,” Lake said.
“He’s been fantastic for the club, but I think he’s gone.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ivan-maric-unlikely-to-be-at-richmond-in-2017-afl-season-says-brian-lake/news-story/17e0be8848dc8e5b5eca51caaf258bd9
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Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake
In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.
Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years
Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity
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Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake
In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.
Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years
Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity
Its Hammertime because potato
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Ivan Maric contract, unlikely to be at Richmond in 2017 AFL season, says Brian Lake
In his three AFL matches this season, Maric has been dominant in the hit-outs but failed to accumulate much footy around the ground, averaging a career-low six touches.
Career low average of six touches for Maric = career high average for Hampson after 10 years
Got to pity those supporters who wallow in mediocrity
Shhhhhh
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What we need is for both Maric and Hammer to be injured so we can make the big girl first ruck and see how he goes.
:thumbsup
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https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/773803605216210944
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Ivan is finished
True tiger at heart and therefore determined to waste a position on the Pies list
He knows he would be a waste at Tigerland and that everyone involved is too incompetent to realise it
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Probably one of those player/coach positions.
Otherwise laughable seriously.
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ivan will be playing for st albans next year in the WRFL DIV 1 very strong rumours from the club
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Pies want him apparently.
I find this a bit strange. Maric, as much as i love the bloke is well and truely done (I don't like the term "cooked" they aren't a roast chicken lol) and yet Cloke (another done player) was dropped several times. Surely, the same thing is just going to happen to Maric? Why show interest in a finished bloke, when youve publicly show dissatisfication with another finished bloke???
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Well done big Ivan
Battled his heart out for the RFC.
Deserved to go out with a GF
:clapping
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Well done big Ivan
Battled his heart out for the RFC.
Deserved to go out with a GF
:clapping
I thought it was something like "here we go again, he's no better than Graham!" ;D
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Deserved alot better send off than what he got today thanks to some of his team mates
Hes done so much for our club he simply deserved better
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With all due respect, he shouldn't have played....
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Deserved alot better send off than what he got today thanks to some of his team mates
Hes done so much for our club he simply deserved better
Agree but big Ivvy has been past it for a little while now and cannot pass the blame onto this teammates for this one. Didn't contribute either...
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Soldo didn't even play? That's disappointing :P
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I thought it was good that he was acknowledged as a retiring player on Brownlow night.