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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 16, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
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Might be garbage but Trade Week Radio just before 1pm said Richmond has shown interest in Josh Caddy.
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Might be garbage but Trade Week Radio just before 1pm said Richmond has shown interest in Josh Caddy.
Did u hear what we were prepared to offer? If Essendon are trying to get a compo pick and offer 19 & compo we would be able to top that. Had the navicular injury this year so id be skeptical.
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Get this deal done for 15 & Compo. Throw in Morton also.
If not straight swap for Foley (least preferred option)
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Is exactly the type of mid we need. Big bodied contested player with good skills. Would definitely give up pick 15 and a player. Would consider adding the compo pick too.
I rated him very high last draft.
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Get this deal done for 15 & Compo. Throw in Morton also.
If not straight swap for Foley (least preferred option)
You would rather give up our two best picks instead of an overrated crocked midfielder with very average kicking skills?
Foley for Caddy, where do I sign ;D
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Is exactly the type of mid we need. Big bodied contested player with good skills. Would definitely give up pick 15 and a player. Would consider adding the compo pick too.
I rated him very high last draft.
^ roger rogerson...would be real keen to get him into our midfield mix...right age, right build & an upgrade on skills immediately compared to some of the donks running around...
the fact that he wants to come home for family reasons works in our favour...would love to make this happen...
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No way would I give up both our first rounder and our compo pick. That's two decent picks for one kid who is still an unknown at AFL level. It's not as if he's a first year player who has walked into AFL without skipping a beat. Pick 15 is higher than Essendon's first pick OR a compo pick which would interest the Suns as the new franchises are after as many as they can get their hands on so we have the upper hand on Essendon already without going overboard if we want Caddy. Add a expendable player if need be but not both pick 15 and the compo pick. We need to add to our depth so need picks as well; not do 2 picks-for-1 player offers.
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No way would I give up both our first rounder and our compo pick. That's two decent picks for one kid who is still an unknown at AFL level. It's not as if he's a first year player who has walked into AFL without skipping a beat. Pick 15 is higher than Essendon's first pick OR a compo pick which would interest the Suns as the new franchises are after as many as they can get their hands on so we have the upper hand on Essendon already without going overboard if we want Caddy. Add a expendable player if need be but not both pick 15 and the compo pick. We need to add to our depth so need picks as well; not do 2 picks-for-1 player offers.
I disagree MT. The important point is that he has a thorough medical with focus on his navicular injury. He was pick 7 in a strong draft and is as tough as they come. He has leadership qualities (captain of NK) and we would be hard pressed getting anything better than him. Our compo pick will also be something like pick 30 when it comes around. So pick 15 + compo doesn't seem like we are paying overs. Of course he has to be fit!
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Realistically, our compo pick will never be much better than pick 20. Caddy in this draft goes top 6 imo.
Pick 15 and Pick 20 for Pick 6. Just a way of looking at it. Caddy's a gun. I'd be disappointed if we didn't look at this.
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15 + Jackson
2 birds 1 mule
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I disagree MT. The important point is that he has a thorough medical with focus on his navicular injury. He was pick 7 in a strong draft and is as tough as they come. He has leadership qualities (captain of NK) and we would be hard pressed getting anything better than him. Our compo pick will also be something like pick 30 when it comes around. So pick 15 + compo doesn't seem like we are paying overs. Of course he has to be fit!
I'm not saying on it's own it is enough but remember the compo pick would definitely be around pick 20 for GC as they'll be lucky to win 6 games next year. These compo picks are even more valuable for the new franchises as it will enable them to continue to load up with kids from the top 20-25 of stronger uncompromised drafts in subsequent drafts. Offering both pick 15 and the compo pick is IMO too much when we could find two quality players for that to improve our list and depth. We should definitely be able to find a good midfielder at pick 15 alone otherwise our recruiters haven't done their job. Last year's draft was just as compromised as this one.
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The best optimistic deluded Bomber fans can come up with is trading Hooker to Brisbane for the Lions' compo pick and then ontrading it with pick 19 to Gold Coast.
Another version was pick 19 + Lonergan for Brisbane's pick 12 :wallywink and then pick 12 for Caddy.
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The best optimistic deluded Bomber fans can come up with is trading Hooker to Brisbane for the Lions' compo pick and then ontrading it with pick 19 to Gold Coast.
Another version was pick 19 + Lonergan for Brisbane's pick 12 :wallywink and then pick 12 for Caddy.
Lonergan by himself is more than enough to get Caddy.... ::)
:lol Bumber fans :rollin
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From Paul Pickerings foxsports live trade week blog:
"Don't rule the Tigers out of the market for Caddy, either. You've still got pick 15 up your sleeve."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-event-blog/day-seven-of-2011-afl-trade-week-looks-at-mitch-clark-fallout-brad-ebert-jordan-lisle-and-plenty-more/story-fn5k2y1b-1226167674955
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From Paul Pickerings foxsports live trade week blog:
"Don't rule the Tigers out of the market for Caddy, either. You've still got pick 15 up your sleeve."
** Crossing of fingers commences **
:pray
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From Paul Pickerings foxsports live trade week blog:
"Don't rule the Tigers out of the market for Caddy, either. You've still got pick 15 up your sleeve."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-event-blog/day-seven-of-2011-afl-trade-week-looks-at-mitch-clark-fallout-brad-ebert-jordan-lisle-and-plenty-more/story-fn5k2y1b-1226167674955
Doesn't sound like he has any inside word does it?
For people who dont want to give up first and compo let me ask...would u trade Conca for first and compo? That's about Caddy's value provided Caddy's foot isn't rooted and therefore has 0 value.
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did i miss something is caddy that good?
sorry havent really paid much attention to him
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did i miss something is caddy that good?
sorry havent really paid much attention to him
Went pick after Conca. Similar style to Dusty i guess. Huge kid wins contested ball and can kick goals. Problem is he had the dreaded navicular injury.
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how bad are those injuries?
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yeah mate, if he can get his foot right will be a gun...as mentioned earlier would def need to get a thorough medical but based on what he's shown would be well worth exploring...
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ah they are those dreaded foot injuries that never heal, maybe we should say pass if its too risky
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1655: Jesse says: Hey, what are the chances in your opinion that Caddy will come to the bombers out of 10? If so is there a chance the deal could be done today?
Sammy says: Pick 15 & Compo Pick or Pick 15 & A player that fits Gold Coast Needs For Josh Caddy to get to Richmond.
Paul Pickering says: Jesse, the best we can hope for today is that the Suns say something on the Caddy front. We won't get anything official from clubs tonight. Assuming the Dons are the frontrunner for Caddy, I'd say you're a six out of 10 chance. How's that for a stab in the dark? Given the family issues involved for Caddy, it'd be a PR spot-fire for the Suns if they don't allow him to head home. Sammy, I reckon you're in the right ballpark.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-event-blog/day-seven-of-2011-afl-trade-week-looks-at-mitch-clark-fallout-brad-ebert-jordan-lisle-and-plenty-more/story-fn5k2y1b-1226167674955
So Gold Coast want 19 AND the end of round one compo pick? Or just the compo pick?
Because if its the latter surely we could package 19 and a player to Brisbane for their compo pick then forward that on to GC for Caddy.
Both 19 and end of round compensation or a top 5 player + 19
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63346&st=675
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Yeah he needs to desperately get to Melbourne because his dad is ill but nominates only Essendon, smells like horse pile to me.
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did i miss something is caddy that good?
sorry havent really paid much attention to him
yep.
Do it rfc
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ah they are those dreaded foot injuries that never heal, maybe we should say pass if its too risky
richos and hirds seem to come good ::)
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spose he is young and should heal well
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just do it "tick"
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Pick 15 + Daniel Jackson.
Without Daniel Harris, GC are very thin in terms of big bodied defenders. Jackson would fit in well.
They are quite full fown back and I don't think will be interested in 450k a year McGuane. Maybe Griffiths, Post could sweeten the deal?
Pick 15 + Jackson for Caddy, could be a serious win for us that GC may deal with especially with the PR factor of Caddy needing to be home with his father.
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Pick 15, Jackson, King, Nahas, White, McGuane, Miller.
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From Emma Quayle's twitter:
"caddy wanted to go to Essendon, they were the only club GC was talking to. He will stay on the GC"
"yeah, homesick and a few other things. The fact he was injured for so long didn't help"
"that's not accurate. Ess made a pitch, GC was dealing direct with them. The stuff with his dad was just one factor"
"dead & almost buried unless GC somehow relents tomorrow"
"caddy will stay on the GC if it doesn't happen, which is likely The dad thing was only 1 factor, GC was only talking to essendon"
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The Bombers were working feverishly to try to source the high-end draft pick that is required to poach the midfield hard-nut.
Caddy's father has a heart condition, prompting the teen to ask Gold Coast for a move back home, preferably to Essendon.
The Herald Sun revealed Essendon offered pick 19, potentially another selection, plus a player.
But the Suns knocked back the proposal and had not moved from their stance last night.
It is understood the club was likely to deal only if it received top compensation.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-search-for-top-pick-to-win-josh-caddy/story-fn69a32t-1226167924789
Essendon will today attempt to convince Gold Coast to trade teenager Josh Caddy to the Bombers for an assortment of players and possibly a draft pick. Caddy played two games for the Suns in their first season.
The Bombers are understood to have offered up several options including defender Cale Hooker and injury-prone forward Scott Gumbleton.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/saints-weigh-up-gram-trade/story-e6frg7mf-1226168006825
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We now have the highest first round pick of any Melbourne-based club although I've heard the Dees are now interested in Caddy and they have better compo picks to offer from losing Scully. Gold Coast hold the aces with who to trade with if a number of Melbourne-based clubs start bidding.
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Bloody hell. I wish Melbourne would bugger off. They're the fat kid that sticks their fingers in every bit of food at another kid's birthday party.
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Get Caddy and screw those bombers! Hate that club!
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Emma Quayle saying Essendon are in mediation with GC over Caddy and that Melbourne has joined the fray.
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Melbourne are pitching hard for Caddy now - why arent we in there? he is a quality player
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I don't think we are interested at all :sleep
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Melbourne are pitching hard for Caddy now - why arent we in there? he is a quality player
No willing to pay this price GC want?
Concerns about his foot injury history?
I got the impression from Craig Cameron at the fan forum that we just weren't interested in chasing a big fish or doing a big trade this year.
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Bombers' negotiators have broken up with GC according to SEN and Essendon's CEO has just arrived at Etihad. Looks like they are going hard for Caddy now.
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Melbourne are pitching hard for Caddy now - why arent we in there? he is a quality player
No willing to pay this price GC want?
Concerns about his foot injury history?
I got the impression from Craig Cameron at the fan forum that we just weren't interested in chasing a big fish or doing a big trade this year.
bombers have offered pick 19 and one of Hooker/Gumbleton..
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Hudson on SEN mentioned us regarding Caddy. He wondered how we could find a player to go with pick 15 to satisfy the Suns compared to Essendon with their pick 19.
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Melbourne are pitching hard for Caddy now - why arent we in there? he is a quality player
No willing to pay this price GC want?
Concerns about his foot injury history?
I got the impression from Craig Cameron at the fan forum that we just weren't interested in chasing a big fish or doing a big trade this year.
bombers have offered pick 19 and one of Hooker/Gumbleton..
and that will be a win for the Bombers, provided the kid is healthy
Gumbleton...LMFAO please
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Melbourne are pitching hard for Caddy now - why arent we in there? he is a quality player
No willing to pay this price GC want?
Concerns about his foot injury history?
I got the impression from Craig Cameron at the fan forum that we just weren't interested in chasing a big fish or doing a big trade this year.
bombers have offered pick 19 and one of Hooker/Gumbleton..
and that will be a win for the Bombers, provided the kid is healthy
Gumbleton...LMFAO please
Yep Pick 19 + Gumby is just pick 19 unless the Suns want someone who'll spend his whole time in the medical room and sitting in the stands.
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i would love GC to screw the Bombers over and side with the Demons. I mean given a choice i would love nothing better than to see the Bummers get bent over in this one
I just get the feeling GC will bow to the pressure and give in with one of these spuds.
In effect its Caddy for pick 19. Gumbleton is not an AFL player lets be serious
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Demons with compo picks would hold the upper hand over bombers IMO.
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Yep the Dees have that floating first round and a mid-first round compo picks to play with from the Scully deal.
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Jenkins was one of the players Essendon thought they could trade to GC as part of a Caddy trade. So perhaps the Bombers have given up.
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Trade Week Radio tweeted Essendon could try picks 19 + 31 to get Caddy. I don't think so.
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to get caddy we would have to give a quality player and we dont have any to spare, or our first rnd pick and the compo pick, neither of which, they dont seem to want to give up.
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Suns say they wanted a top 10 pick for Caddy and Essendon couldn't deliver on that.
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We were blocked out....
Caddy was desperate to get back to Melbourne to be closer to his sick father, yet he was seen as off limits to other Victorian clubs.
Clubs including Richmond and Melbourne tried to get involved in deals for Caddy at times this week but were told only Essendon was to be involved.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-and-gold-coast-unable-to-do-a-deal-on-josh-caddy/story-fn69a32t-1226168942539
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Why did the Bombers bring in AFL mediators to sit at the table with them to try and work out a deal.
Did the bombers feel GC wasn't being fair with not accepting there first offer? or is it the norm to have AFL mediators to help trades get done I never heard of it happening before(it probably happens alot for all I know though).
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Why did Bombers and GC bring in AFL mediators to sit at the table with them to try and work out a deal.
Did the bombers feel GC wasn't being fair with not accepting there first offer? or is it the norm to have AFL mediators to help trades get done I never heard of it happening before(it probably happens alot for all I know though).
Probably only ever get 1 per year max.
Also thinks its a joke Caddy says his dad is sick and then they have to deal with Essendon. LMAO his dad cant be that sick. Word is GC accepted Melbournes offer and Caddy said no ::)
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P p p please GC... my father will only recover... if I play for Essendon....
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Something stunk here right from the get go. Reckon its the Mark Thompson influence. The ill father bit just a smokescreen with other clubs forced out. Must have not wanted to come home too bad.
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The rumor is the Thompson and Caddy Family's have been very close foe years, that why it smells more than a little fishy..........
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Lunchcutter Thompson probably stuffed his mum
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Lunchcutter Thompson probably stuffed his mum
hahaha
best thing is bummers wont have a 1st rounder next year as its committed to the F/S Daniher. :lol
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Lunchcutter Thompson probably stuffed his mum
hahaha
best thing is bummers wont have a 1st rounder next year as its committed to the F/S Daniher. :lol
Surely they could just trade Slattery or Dyson for a couple of top ten picks. :wallywink
They're mature bodies, just what every team needs!! :lol
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Wouldn't Caddy be coming out of contract next year.
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Wouldn't Caddy be coming out of contract next year.
Yep.
His manager is claiming they only chose Essendon to 'protect' Caddy.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-youngster-josh-caddy-wanted-to-keep-trade-talks-with-essendon-quiet/story-fn69a32t-1226169514357
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FFS, I'd rather GC give him a year of compassionate leave to be with his Dad than to see him go to the Windy Hill Warblers.
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7096/gleewarblers300fox.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/gleewarblers300fox.jpg/)
A typical Team meeting..."Lets Bedazzle with Jazz hands boys!"
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Wouldn't that be considered draft tampering?
Why wouldn't the league investigate this?
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Wouldn't that be considered draft tampering?
Why wouldn't the league investigate this?
The Judd rule. The AFL ignores it to appease the AFLPA and their calls for full-on free agency where players can pick and choose which club they want to go to.
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Wouldn't that be considered draft tampering?
Why wouldn't the league investigate this?
if MFC are allowed give Mitch Clarke mrs 75k for a bollocks job and Judd save the world from carbon and get visy$$... It seems anything goes.
Stoked essendon didn't get him