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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 07, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
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Seven clubs also applied to the AFL for permission for non-listed players to join training.
The Magpies have approval for Dick, Daniel Farmer and Trent Stubbs - all delisted a week ago - to train with the club.
Former Kangaroo Addam Maric is training with Richmond and former Hawk Beau Dowler is one of seven players given permission to join St Kilda training.
PERMISSION TO TRAIN LIST
Richmond - Pat Contin, David Fahey, Glen Grgic, Ben Jakobi, Addam Maric, Leigh Masters, William Wheeler.
Adelaide - James Craig, Will Young.
Collingwood - Daniel Farmer, Trent Stubbs, Brad Dick, Scott Reid.
Fremantle - Clancee Pearce.
North Melbourne - Gavin Urquhart.
St Kilda - Ben Casley, Beau Dowler, James Hallahan, Danny Hughes, Michael Lourey, James Magner, Marcus Marigliani.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-give-rookie-brad-miller-another-year/story-fn69a32t-1226187956396
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Hmmm havnt heard of some of those names....
Willy wheeler..
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Hmmm havnt heard of some of those names....
Willy wheeler..
Good rhyming slang for Sheila
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So what is the story with these guys??
David Fahey, Glen Grgic, Leigh Masters, William Wheeler
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So what is the story with these guys??
David Fahey, Glen Grgic, Leigh Masters, William Wheeler
All Coburg listed players.
(http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/01/24/13/1241343_1_M.jpg)
19. Leigh Masters ........ 22-Jun-92 187cm 80kg Bendigo Pioneers
Stats: 8 VFL senior games and 13 in the ressies (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Leigh%20Masters&action=PSTATS&pID=192157504&client=1-118-0-150677-14512913)
(http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/01/24/13/1241351_1_M.jpg)
21. Glen Grgic ........ 19-Aug-92 176cm 80kg Nth Heidelberg/Northern Knights
Stats: 4 VFL senior games (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Glen%20Grgic&action=PSTATS&pID=192271319&client=1-118-0-150677-14512913)
(http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/01/24/13/1241363_1_M.jpg)
24. Willie Wheeler ...... 21-Jun-92 176cm 75kg Seymour/Murray Bushrangers
Stats: 15 VFL senior games in 2011 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=William%20Wheeler&action=PSTATS&pID=192145122&client=1-118-0-150677-14512913)
(http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/01/24/13/1241369_1_M.jpg)
28. David Fahey ....... 22-Dec-91 194cm 79kg Aberfeldie/Calder Cannons
Stats: 4 VFL senior games and 16 in the ressies (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=David%20Fahey&action=PSTATS&pID=192158212&client=1-118-0-150677-14512913)
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Here's a mid-year article on Wheeler....
Willie Wheeler bound for AFL
by: Sam Landsberger
From: Moreland Leader
July 18, 2011
THE story of Willie Wheeler is fast approaching its defining chapter.
Will the Victorian Football League sensation from Avenel, near Seymour, be drafted?
Wheeler has all the attributes to play AFL footy. He's 19, explosive off the mark, tackles hard wins his own ball, and can kick goals.
He showcased his talents playing for the Murray Bushrangers last year, collecting 41 touches and laying seven tackles in a breakout match against Bendigo.
Wheeler went on to share the TAC Cup club's best-and-fairest with a kid called Shaun Atley. Atley was snared with a first-round pick by North Melbourne and is already a lock in Brad Scott's starting side.
Wheeler was overlooked. And again at the rookie draft, that time by all 18 clubs.
"My height," Wheeler said when asked why he thought he was overlooked. "Maybe my pace as well, I'm not really sure what it was.
"I always thought it would be hard with my height, but I never thought it should matter as much as it does."
Wheeler, who stands 176cm 13cm shorter than Atley is understandably irritated
"It gets frustrating when you see some other people get drafted that you think you could easily play on and hold your own against, but that's just the way it is," he said.
"I think if they say 'he's just too short' I don't believe it should matter as much as it does."
Wheeler is within 2cm of Collingwood's Jarryd Blair and Western Bulldog Luke Dahlhaus.
That pair was forced to fight for senior AFL listings via the rookie draft, which is why Wheeler landed at Coburg this season.
Last week, he signed a one-year extension at the Tigers, arriving at the club to sign his deal and undergo media commitments still looking grubby and tired after a long day of work and about to hit the track for a training session.
It summed up how hard the teenager works and, while the club was rapt to secure him, it knows Wheeler is no certainty to stay put next year.
Two AFL recruiters last week indicated he was likely to be snapped up.
On form it is a mystery his name was not called last year. Wheeler started on Collingwood's Ben Johnson in the Round 9 ABC clash.
Before the Magpie veteran limped off injured, commentators were already marveling at Wheeler's natural flair and nous at the stoppages.
Against Casey in Round 12 Wheeler enjoyed one of the best quarters seen this season. In his seventh game of senior football the nephew of former Western Bulldogs and Williamstown coach Terry Wheeler dragged his side across the line with 25 touches and three goals, including the last two of the match.
He was opposed to Melbourne-listed players Addam Maric and Lynden Dunn.
It seems when Wheeler plays well, so do the Tiges.
Wheeler said he is now trying to model his game on Steele Sidebottom, another country kid with close roots back home.
Coburg coach Adam Potter could not have been more glowing in his appraisal of Wheeler.
"He's the best I've seen come in from the TAC Cup and have an impact in the last six years I've been involved (at VFL level). He averages 25 possessions, wins clearances and tackles well," Potter said.
Wheeler is a regular at Potter's nearby Ascot Vale home for dinner and the coach played a key role in settling the second-year plumber into a city lifestyle.
But why Coburg over Williamstown, a club synonymous with the Wheeler name?
"At the start it was because Coburg were closest to the country because they were out at Craigieburn (in pre-season), and I had a few mates down here from Seymour that I knew," Wheeler said.
The Seagulls and Werribee both missed out on the excitement machine, who finally believes he can cut it at the top grade.
"When AFL players come back and you play on them and every now and then you hold your own and it does give you confidence," he said.
Wheeler said he resisted the temptation to stay home and take the easy option of playing country footy for a quick cash grab. He is determined to realise his dream.
"I still like to get back home and do some outdoor hunting and shooting or play other sports," he said. "(I hunt) foxes, or anything that annoys the farmer. It's good fun with all my mates.
"A lot of people do that (stay home and play country footy). It's a big step to come down. That's the reason for me coming down, to get looked at."
He cites his dad, Jeff, as his biggest influence on his football, and could not be held in higher regard at the Tigers.
Recently, Coburg captain Nick Carnell, who Wheeler rates as his best skipper yet, penned a new two-year deal at Coburg.
He said at the time it was partly because of coach Adam Potter's influence and partly because of how excited he was about the next brigade of emerging stars.
Carnell highlighted Wheeler as the most promising, speaking in awe of his work ethic and ability.
If Wheeler is not selected in this year's draft, he plans to spend one more year building his strength and consistent pace at the Tigers.
You get the feeling the story of Willie Wheeler is only just beginning.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/willie-wheeler-bound-for-afl/story-fn53khop-1226096860330
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That story certainly pumps him up. At 176cm you can understand the clubs reservations. I wonder if we will give him a go :shh
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Looked really good at times for Coburg 'Willie' That is. But fair dinkum with the smalls, oer and the forums will implode. It's why Nason didn't make he just got smashed to pieces.
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Wheeler Vs Nason = Chalk & Cheese. Wheeler good, Nason not good.
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Willie regularly impacted games for Coburg late in the season, i believe.
cant remember Nason having much impact at all, at any level.
Could be wrong here, tho.
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Not sure why, apart from Wheeler, we would be looking at Coburg players who have hardly played senior VFL games and spent most of the time in the VFL ressies (effectively the 3rds). We did the same with Jakobi last year and it was no surprise he was delisted. The game between a bottom 4 VFL side and the AFL is massive enough, let alone between the VFL ressies and AFL level :P. You would hope by draft day and the rookie draft we'll have a few blokes from the SANFL (best comp. outside the AFL) and WAFL on our radar.
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Thanks OE, well we must be interested in one of them....
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Thanks OE, well we must be interested in one of them....
Not necessarily ..RFC does this every year; that is have Coburg blokes train with the RFC during pre-season.
And outside Jake King & Jarrod Sylvestor we haven't drafted anyone that I can remember. Would think it has more to do with keeping the "alignment" strong ;D
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We're getting ex-Pie John McCarthy down to train with us as well....
... with pickings at the national draft this year likely to be slim for Victorian clubs given Greater Western Sydney has 11 of the first 14 selections, Richmond is also keeping its options open in terms of experienced players.
The Tigers already have seven unlisted players doing pre-season work, including former Demon Addam Maric, and will invite another, former Magpie John McCarthy, to join them.
McCarthy has had several clubs interested, though North Melbourne, which some suggested could pick up the former Magpie, last night insisted it would be using its draft picks on youth and would only consider McCarthy as a rookie if he were still available.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eyes-on-future-as-tigers-grab-youth-20111109-1n7fo.html#ixzz1dJeQDGSi
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Axed Magpie John McCarthy to train with Tigers
by: Al Paton
From: Herald Sun
November 11, 2011 1:24PM
AXED Magpie John McCarthy will train with Richmond in the hope of resurrecting his AFL career.
The Tigers today applied for permission for McCarthy - cut by Collingwood after 18 games in four seasons - to train with the club.
Delisted Demon Addam Maric is also training with Richmond.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/axed-magpie-john-mccarthy-to-train-with-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1226192589343
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Personally I think McCarthy would add some good depth to our midfield.
Is he an inside type of player? Could he push Jackson to the Burgers??? :pray
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if he did that he would become a hero amongst the tiger faithful.
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if he did that he would become a hero amongst the tiger faithful.
Hall of famer
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To answer your questions JVT.
Yes, he's a hard-at-it midfielder with decent height at 189. A little bit light at 82kg but he's one of those stringy sort of guys.
Pretty tough and strong at the ball, decent decision-making and passable disposal.
Could he push Jackson back to Coburg? Definately, since he would be competing for the bigger inside-mid role against Jackson and Tuck.
Main question would be whether he is taken in front of a mature player from secondary leagues with possibly better skills and at what point.
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GET HIM IN ASAP!!! :bow
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The permission to train list at November 11, with additions since the last update underlined:
Adelaide
James Craig (Adelaide), Will Young (Adelaide)
Collingwood
Brad Dick (Collingwood), Daniel Farmer (Collingwood), Scott Reid (Collingwood), Trent Stubbs (Collingwood)
Essendon
Matt Little (Bendigo Bombers)
Fremantle
Clancee Pearce (Fremantle)
Gold Coast
Michael Coad (Gold Coast)
North Melbourne
Gavin Urquhart (North Melbourne)
Richmond
Pat Contin (Richmond), David Fahey (Coburg), Glen Grgic (Coburg), Ben Jakobi (Richmond), John McCarthy (Collingwood), Addam Maric (Melbourne), Leigh Masters (Coburg), William Wheeler (Coburg)
St Kilda
Ben Casley (GWS), Beau Dowler (Noble Park), James Hallahan (Sandringham), Danny Hughes (Sandringham), Michael Lourey (Sandringham), James Magner (Sandringham), Marcus Marigliani (Sandringham)
Sydney Swans
Campbell Heath (Sydney Swans), Jackson Potter (Pennant Hills), Mitch Thompson (Sydney University)
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=126051&utm_medium=RSS
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WOOOOHOOOO MCCARTHY!!!
Sorry.. been keen for this to happen since I heard he wasn't re-signing at the Pies. Not the brightest footy spark so I get pretty stoked when stuff I tip happens :rollin
Hopefully he puts in the hard yards at training and we give him a spot :pray
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To answer your questions JVT.
Yes, he's a hard-at-it midfielder with decent height at 189. A little bit light at 82kg but he's one of those stringy sort of guys.
Pretty tough and strong at the ball, decent decision-making and passable disposal.
Could he push Jackson back to Coburg? Definately, since he would be competing for the bigger inside-mid role against Jackson and Tuck.
Main question would be whether he is taken in front of a mature player from secondary leagues with possibly better skills and at what point.
Accurate summary this :thumbsup
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FFS here we go again, no one wanted Toovey who has had a heap more game time and is better he of would filled more of a required position within the club.
Now you want a Collingwood reject that we dont need position wise
Give me a break, even costing us nothing we don't need this type of player....we have Edwards... :lol
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Tell me more about McCarthy ;D
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I am OUTRAGED! I cannot believe we are contemplating a collingwood reject!
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I am OUTRAGED! I cannot believe we are contemplating a collingwood reject!
Pick him or Jackson Hooter. Don't sit on the fence :rollin
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I am OUTRAGED! I cannot believe we are contemplating a collingwood reject!
Has to be better than all our Melbourne rejects we seem to be collecting ;D ;D
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if he did that he would become a hero amongst the tiger OER faithful.
Edited for accuracy
;D
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Yep, certainly a lot of editing being done these days.....
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:laugh:
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Yep, certainly a lot of editing being done these days.....
Yes I got into trouble for my.....um...well....lets just say Wiggles comment.
Actually the real saying goes; The person was so worried he was was sweating like a ............... at a Wiggles concert.
I am sure that is fine isnt it OE??
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if he did that he would become a hero amongst the tiger OER faithful.
Edited for accuracy
;D
everyone else hates the effwit man. apart from the Lord of the rings fan club, they think he's pretty damn cool. awww snagglebags hehehehehehe...............wtf
what a bag of bush t!ts. Daniel Jackson LMFAO
go mccarthy you stud
Yep, certainly a lot of editing being done these days.....
Yes I got into trouble for my.....um...well....lets just say Wiggles comment.
Actually the real saying goes; The person was so worried he was was sweating like a ............... at a Wiggles concert.
I am sure that is fine isnt it OE??
:cheers :o
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Reinventing the Wheeler
Brent Diamond
November 13, 2011
WILLIE Wheeler knows all too well the eerie feeling of missing out on hearing his name called on AFL draft day.
Wheeler, the nephew of former Bulldogs coach Terry Wheeler, was joint winner of the Murray Bushrangers best and fairest last year with North Melbourne's Shaun Atley. But the two went in opposite directions, with Wheeler attracting barely any interest despite the accolade.
He was distraught but tried not to dwell on it for too long.
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This year he opted against playing another season in the TAC Cup and instead went to the Coburg Tigers in the VFL. It paid dividends for the Tigers and Wheeler is hopeful of finally arriving on the AFL scene.
He was best on ground for Coburg five times last season, delivering the ball with precision and producing plenty of class against AFL-listed opponents. He believed not many people rated him before and he had a point to prove. Not only does he rack up the possessions but he also kicks goals, match-winning ones.
''Definitely, I was disappointed like anyone else, but you can't dwell on it for too long so I just tried and had a good year this year. I thought I didn't do too bad, I was pretty happy with my season,'' Wheeler said. ''If it doesn't happen again, I'll just try and do better next year.''
Wheeler was tipped to be close to winning the Fothergill-Round Medal for the most promising young player in the VFL this year. But that ultimately went to deserving winner Ahmed Saad, who was snared by St Kilda.
Wheeler began pre-season training with Richmond this week, alongside former Pie John McCarthy, former Demon Addam Maric and Coburg teammates Pat Contin, David Fahey, Ben Jakobi and Glen Grgic.
''I'm just going to train hard and just see what happens,'' he said. ''I think I've got a lot stronger and my maturity in football has improved a lot, which has made me a better player.''
Coburg said Richmond was clearly interested in Wheeler. Another three AFL clubs are also believed to have made inquiries about the young midfielder.
''In a full-time environment, I think he'd thrive, so hopefully he does get an opportunity,'' Coburg coach Adam Potter said.
Other VFL players looking to impress at AFL clubs during pre-season training include former Hawthorn-listed players Matthew Little (Essendon) and Beau Dowler (St Kilda). Also at the Saints are Sandringham guns Marcus Marigliani, Michael Lourey, James Magner, Danny Hughes and James Hallahan.
Dowler, who played last season at Noble Park, recently signed at St Kilda's VFL affiliate Sandringham but it is understood Saints list manager Chris Pelchen, formerly of Hawthorn, rates Dowler highly and may resurrect his career at the Saints as a rookie.
The AFL draft is on November 24 and the pre-season draft and rookie draft is on December 13.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/reinventing-the-wheeler-20111112-1nd10.html#ixzz1dYLXnaM4
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I dunno if its just me but Im not getting that excited at the prospect of recruiting a <180cm from the second tier comps...we already have midgets on our list, adding anymore aint going to take us anywhere
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Here's a pic of McCarthy at Richmond training (courtesy of RFCO)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg858/scaled.php?tn=0&server=858&filename=whh1.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/nuwhh1j
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Here's a pic of McCarthy at Richmond training (courtesy of RFCO)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg858/scaled.php?tn=0&server=858&filename=whh1.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/nuwhh1j
Tuck the 2nd :o :o :lol
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Hope we give this guy a shot, he can play that's for sure and has some nice size about him, wouldn't be at all upset if we took him with pick 55...
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Ex-Pie on Tigers’ menu
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 14 Nov, 2011
Former Collingwood midfielder John McCarthy is the latest player to be given permission to train with Richmond in the hope of restarting his AFL career in the Yellow and Black.
McCarthy, 189cm and 82kg, played 18 senior games in four years with the Magpies, after being selected at pick 31 overall in the 2007 National Draft. He was delisted by them last month after they failed to negotiate a trade for him.
The 21-year-old joins former Melbourne small forward Addam Maric, who also is vying for a second chance at the game’s highest level and training at Tigerland in the lead-up to the AFL National Draft on November 24. Maric, 21, 177cm and 76kg, played 21 games and kicked 15 goals in four seasons with the Demons after being taken at pick 21 overall in the 2007 National Draft.
The other players who have received permission to train at Richmond in the early part of the pre-season period are delisted Tiger rookies Pat Contin and Ben Jakobi, along with Coburg quartet David Fahey, Glen Grgic, Leigh Masters and Willie Wheeler.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/126084/default.aspx
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From RFC's facebook page:
What do you reckon guys? John McCarthy has completed his first day as a player with permission to train. Do you want to see us take him in the either the National or Pre-Season Draft?
Sounds like McCarthy has been told we're going to pick him up.
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From RFC's facebook page:
What do you reckon guys? John McCarthy has completed his first day as a player with permission to train. Do you want to see us take him in the either the National or Pre-Season Draft?
Sounds like McCarthy has been told we're going to pick him up.
Hmmmm
I would hope that if they are looking at him then they would at elast see how trains with us first
Certainly wouldn't be taking him in the ND.
PSD only IMHO
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No difference between taking him in the National Draft or the PSD, still need a pick and a spot on the senior list
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From RFC's facebook page:
What do you reckon guys? John McCarthy has completed his first day as a player with permission to train. Do you want to see us take him in the either the National or Pre-Season Draft?
Sounds like McCarthy has been told we're going to pick him up.
Certainly does Mr OE.
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No difference between taking him in the National Draft or the PSD, still need a pick and a spot on the senior list
Yeah there is in that he he may not be available in the ND because as a de-listed player he doesn't have to nominate for the ND can just nominate for the PSD
And I've always been of the view that you use your ND picks on kids and keep your PSD to look at the best of the de-listed players
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I would be comfortable with 55 if that's what it took. But that's probably just because I'm keen to get the fella on board. McCarthy at 55 or PSD and any of the usual names floating around for 15 and 26 would just about round off our midfield IMO. Also, apparently Port are interested. With individual opinions whether we should grab him or not aside, what are ways to deter them from pinching him in the PSD? Can he flat out say "I'd rather nail my nuts to my knees than go to Port Adelaide" or is the only option for him to stuff Port around with things like refusing medicals? I would assume he had more than Richmond offer a training spot to him, likely Port included, and he chose Richmond so you (well simple people like me) would reckon that would be enough.
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i think the non victorian sides are at a real disadvantage in situations like this.
A melbourne based club may take a risk on someone for whom they are not the preferred club, but to take a mature player against his will forcing him to move interstate is a big risk
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very true, Al. Not sure Port would bite if he strongly nominated us as his preffered club.
I never took any notice of him while he was playing for the scum. Looks like a pretty decent size for a mid though. Would be useful if he could win a bit of hard ball and challenge Jacko for his possie.
Doesnt seem to be too much interest/hype from elsewhere, which is a little concerning.
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From RFC's facebook page:
What do you reckon guys? John McCarthy has completed his first day as a player with permission to train. Do you want to see us take him in the either the National or Pre-Season Draft?
Sounds like McCarthy has been told we're going to pick him up.
Hmmmm
I would hope that if they are looking at him then they would at elast see how trains with us first
Certainly wouldn't be taking him in the ND.
PSD only IMHO
Agree, PSD only as the ND should focus on 2 best available midfielders at 15 & 26, and best available Ruck or KF or KD.
Port will committ to Leon Davis at PSD, so McCarthy will be available to the Dees or Tigs if he insists on remaining in Vic.
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From RFC's facebook page:
What do you reckon guys? John McCarthy has completed his first day as a player with permission to train. Do you want to see us take him in the either the National or Pre-Season Draft?
Sounds like McCarthy has been told we're going to pick him up.
Hmmmm
I would hope that if they are looking at him then they would at elast see how trains with us first
Certainly wouldn't be taking him in the ND.
PSD only IMHO
Agree, PSD only as the ND should focus on 2 best available midfielders at 15 & 26, and best available Ruck or KF or KD.
Port will committ to Leon Davis at PSD, so McCarthy will be available to the Dees or Tigs if he insists on remaining in Vic.
Why wouldn't we just take him with pick 70 whatever we have? That way he's knows where he's at, gets to travel to Arizona with the tram and literally get a full pre season under his belt.
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to do that we would need another delisting...and there is a rumour that is on the cards.
just wondering, whats the difference between using an otherwise unused ND pick as opposed to the PSD?
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just wondering, whats the difference between using an otherwise unused ND pick as opposed to the PSD?
About three weeks worth of observation.
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Yep over those 3 weeks we have in recent years got a few of the kids overlooked in the National Draft down to Punt Rd for a closer look.
Keeping a PSD pick up our sleeve also gives us the option of picking up a kid we may be interested in in the PSD who otherwise may be gone by our first rookie pick. However in saying that it looks like we are going to keep our last spot on our senior list for ex-Pie McCarthy.
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McCarthy looks decent based on the YouTube vids, inside work impressive but needs to work on his defensive positioning. His pressure seems to be fine.
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McCarthy's biggest issue is his disposal. He is also extremely unreliable in front of goals.
However his inside work and defensive pressure is quite good.
Probably just outside Collingwood's best 25 but would add a bit of depth to our first 22.
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Sounds similar to Grigg
another average mid with flaws but an upgrade on your nason/white types
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Keep in mind that he's never had a chance to continually develop at AFL level. He could experience improvement.
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Delisted players nominating for 2011 NAB AFL Draft
Adelaide Crows: James Craig, Myke Cook, James Sellar, Will Young.
Brisbane Lions: Matt Austin, Brendan Fevola.
Carlton: Mark Austin, Setanta O’Hailpin.
Collingwood: Brad Dick, Daniel Farmer.
Essendon: Nil.
Fremantle: Justin Bollenhagen, Clayton Hinkley, Joel Houghton.
Geelong: Nil.
Gold Coast: Nathan Ablett, Michael Coad, Joseph Daye, Marc Lock, Jack Stanlake.
Hawthorn: Jarryd Morton, Jordan Williams.
Melbourne: Addam Maric, Austin Wonaeamirri.
North Melbourne: Ed Lower, Brayden Norris, Daniel Pratt, Ben Ross, Gavin Urquhart.
Port Adelaide: Jason Davenport, Marlon Motlop.
Richmond: Mitch Farmer, Ben Nason.
St Kilda: Jason Blake, Paul Cahill, Ryan Gamble, Nick Heyne, Will Johnson, Andrew McQualter, Alistair Smith.
Sydney Swans: Paul Bevan, Daniel Currie, Campbell Heath.
West Coast: Jordan Jones, Callum Wilson.
Western Bulldogs: Brennan Stack.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126245/default.aspx
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No McCarthy listed so if we are going to pick him up then it'll have to be in the PSD. That could mean we are going to Pass on pick 55 (?)
Addam Maric is listed so he may have been told already he is not in our plans?
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Rumor is McCarthy in psd, Maric at pick 55.
Lock it.
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do we need to vacate another list spot to be able to do that?
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that's disappointing if we select McCarthy!
rather take Maric in the PSD and avoid McCarthy.
seems like we have told McCarthy we are drafting him.
a nothing player really ... waste of time and money ... at least Maric is a small forward ...
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he'll pressure blokes like jackson for his spot.
a PSD pick isnt much to pay for that.
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Nine news in SA saying Port are very happy McCarthy did not nominate for the ND, so they are speculating that they will grab him in PSD.
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Bah, Port sticking their fingers in our pie again.
.... :chuck just read what I wrote moments before hitting 'post'.
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cant see it happening.
media are good at making assumptions and speculating.
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port will take davis in the PSD
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Neon Leon didn't nominate either so either that's saying Port have gone cold on Davis which is at odds to what we are hearing out of Port or the media report is garbage as the Power can't get their hands on both in the PSD. Not that I care if we miss out on getting McCarthy.
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primas said on the radio a couple of days ago that if they get davis it will free up Pittard to play midfield.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22821936&postcount=6
reckon that's a good a lock in as mccarthy to us.
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John McCarthy yesterday rejected an offer from the Power to join them, saying he wanted to go to Richmond in the pre-season draft.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/davis-future-still-in-limbo-20111118-1nnh1.html#ixzz1e4Ky9Dz7
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For me it's simple if cant kick we should not pick him up .I thought we were only going to draft super kicks from now on.
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do we need to vacate another list spot to be able to do that?
Could elevate Newie to the Vets list.
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he'll pressure blokes like jackson for his spot.
a PSD pick isnt much to pay for that.
Spot on :thumbsup
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do we need to vacate another list spot to be able to do that?
Could elevate Newie to the Vets list.
thanks darth. i hadnt realised that this could be done
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for mine both McCarthy and Maric are solid rookie list options and Id welcome both of them to take up first couple of spots...id like to think there's a couple of fresh options out there for our first 3 ND picks though...maybe not, we dont really know how shallow this pool is.....without knowing the lads inside out Id prob favour Mccarthy due to his height..maric at <180cm really makes it difficult to have an impact at AFL level
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do we need to vacate another list spot to be able to do that?
Could elevate Newie to the Vets list.
thanks darth. i hadnt realised that this could be done
Or the rumours about Goo are true? There's still another and final list lodgement after the National Draft which could be use to free a senior list spot if needed prior to the PSD.
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You wonder why they'd delay making the decision though?
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You wonder why they'd delay making the decision though?
I'm just guessing here al but maybe we have our eye out on a certain young tall defender and hope he is still around at pick 26 say or perhaps a mature tall defender from a state league and hoping he's still around at pick 55. If we miss out on either scenario then Goo stays as back-up and we move Newy to the vets list. In other words we may just be keeping our options open so we aren't forced into anything.
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possible. you'd hope that gourdis would know where he stands if it is the case of something like that.
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possible. you'd hope that gourdis would know where he stands if it is the case of something like that.
Yep you would hope so al. Has anyone seen Goo in the last week or two since the players have been back into full preseason training?
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Yep you would hope so al. Has anyone seen Goo in the last week or two since the players have been back into full preseason training?
People asked the same thing on Bigfooty earlier and on about Tuesday and why there are no videos or photos with Goudis in them. Stig replied saying something like "can't get a picture of everyone" which seems like poo considering blokes like Graham and McCarthy are getting plenty of exposure. Then again we've seen pictures of Morris, Helbig, D-Mac, Contin etc but still yet to see anything of the big Ivan.
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Yep you would hope so al. Has anyone seen Goo in the last week or two since the players have been back into full preseason training?
People asked the same thing on Bigfooty earlier and on about Tuesday and why there are no videos or photos with Goudis in them. Stig replied saying something like "can't get a picture of everyone" which seems like poo considering blokes like Graham and McCarthy are getting plenty of exposure. Then again we've seen pictures of Morris, Helbig, D-Mac, Contin etc but still yet to see anything of the big Ivan.
I've seen one photo of Big Ivan.
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Ah I take that back then! ;D
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I'd like to see more photos of Gus Graham going all in.
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RFCO on twitter says he doesn't know so we are all in the dark until draft day.
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The Power, likely to retain a pick for the pre-season draft on December 13, has turned its attention to another ex-Magpie, midfielder John McCarthy.
But it is understood McCarthy - who will also bypass the national draft - has turned down an offer from Port and will play with Richmond in 2012.
"We haven't heard anything about that," Power operations manager Peter Rohde said of McCarthy, who has been training with the Tigers.
"We'll wait and talk to him and his management again this week but there won't be any decisions made until the week after the national draft at the earliest."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-cools-on-leon-davis-eager-on-john-mccarthy/story-e6frf9jf-1226201603811
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I am actually starting to warm towards McCarthy a bit actually, might be worth a shot, not much else around and could rookie some of the others.
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Players get to their club of choice in the PSD. So if we want McCarthy and he wants to play for us then Port would be stupid to interfere. Why pick up a player who doesn't want to be at your club.
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Players get to their club of choice in the PSD. So if we want McCarthy and he wants to play for us then Port would be stupid to interfere. Why pick up a player who doesn't want to be at your club.
Because they are wankers thats why, MT no other reason
Me too WAT, I think he will help to add depth for a small fee and like miller could plug a hole, however unlike miller, he is only 22 so if he can produce performances that are more than just serviceable then he could earn a good position moving foward.
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havent seen so cant comment - kind of meh atm
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He could potentially push Jackson out of the side, get him in ASAP! :pray
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yep dont know much about him but i certainly would take him ahead of another dime a dozen midget in Maric.
He was an emergency at the Pies so definately worth a shot. Very little risk in selecting him
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yep dont know much about him but i certainly would take him ahead of another dime a dozen midget in Maric.
He was an emergency at the Pies so definately worth a shot. Very little risk in selecting him
Agree daniel
Think it's just about a given we will take him in the PSD
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Former Collingwood player John McCarthy would have been picked tonight but is also bound for the pre-season draft, where he is expected to be picked by either Port Adelaide or Richmond.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bin-there-done-that-20111123-1nv51.html#ixzz1eXrAeqN2
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When does the speculation start about what's going on with McCarthy now? ;D all the senior spots are full. I imagine Port would offer something a little more substantial than a rookie list spot, so does anybody think somebody will get the chop or Newman on to veterans list?
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When does the speculation start about what's going on with McCarthy now? ;D all the senior spots are full. I imagine Port would offer something a little more substantial than a rookie list spot, so does anybody think somebody will get the chop or Newman on to veterans list?
We don't have PSD pick at this stage?
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We don't have PSD pick at this stage?
Depends now if Gourdis has gone or Newy moves to the veterans' list.
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The Tigers still hope to take Collingwood's John McCarthy in December's pre-season draft, but are aware Port Adelaide is circling with an earlier pick.
''He has been training with us so he's a possibility for the pre-season draft. (Port Adelaide) have spoken to him but he's been trainnig with us for the last couple of weeks so we will see how that unfolds,'' Jackson said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tough-tiger-recruits-brandon-ellis-matthew-arnot-in-hardwick-mould/story-e6frf9jf-1226205410535
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November 30 is Club list lodgement three. So on Wednesday we'll find out how the Club will be freeing up a spot on our senior list so we have a PSD pick.
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He could potentially push Jackson out of the side, get him in ASAP! :pray
That's not a huge statement.
A King Henry in an RFC sock coming off an injury riddled preseason could push Jackson out.
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There isn't much we can do to stop Port Adelaide snaffling him is there?
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If he flat out says he doesn't want to go there is a good chance they won't pinch him. He could also put a price on his head. I don't reckon he'll come to us if best we can do is a rookie spot, considering the Port interest, unless we promise or something to elevate him.
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Is he really setting the world on fire that much that we must have him? I mean has he impressed , anyone got any guff on him from his training with us?
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There is only the training footage as far as I know. As long as we don't have to bend over backwards I think he will be excellent. He will certainly bolster the list and would play plent of footy. He's no weapon but he was emergency most weeks at the Pies and was only kept out by a pretty solid midfield. Easy upgrade on some currently listed mids.
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Thanks Dwaino
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Rather not free up any spots and draft Rookies.
What is the date of the Pre-Season/Rookie draft?
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If he flat out says he doesn't want to go there is a good chance they won't pinch him. He could also put a price on his head. I don't reckon he'll come to us if best we can do is a rookie spot, considering the Port interest, unless we promise or something to elevate him.
^ agree mate...Port are making a bit of noise that they are pretty keen on him & had him over for talks and medicals etc...apparently though at this stage he's saying he wants to come to us which is either a) a good sign or b) we're offering overs...either way, agree with dwaino - he's no world beater but would be a definite/solid upgrade on a few of the blokes we've had running through the middle...at the very least pushes for spots, creates depths & gives us another option - we'll make it happen.
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No additional players are training with us....
From Patrick Keane's twitter:
A total of 17 further players across 8 AFL clubs have permission now to train in the lead-up to the pre-season and rookie drafts next month.
Essendon - Anthony Long (Essendon)
Fremantle - Zac Dawson (St Kilda)
Gold Coast - Aaron Hall (Hobart)
Melbourne - Freddie Clutterbuck (E Perth), Carl Nicolson (Glenelg), Fletcher Roberts (Sand Dragons), Jai Sheahan(Geel Falcons)
Nth Melb - Marcus Darmody, Liam Hoy, Tate Oliver (Nth Ball), Lachlan Fairley (W Jets), Brad Mangan, Will Martinello, Sean Tighe (Werribee)
Pt Adelaide - Ed Lower (North Melbourne)
St Kilda -Jason Blake (St Kilda)
Syd Swans - Harry Cunningham (Turvey Park)
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Freddie Clutterbuck
:ROTFL
Draft him Dees, cult hero
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:lol
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A total of 17 further players across 8 AFL clubs have permission now to train in the lead-up to the pre-season and rookie drafts next month.
St Kilda -Jason Blake (St Kilda)
Why would Jason Blake need permission to train seeing he was drafted last week :-\ ;D
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A total of 17 further players across 8 AFL clubs have permission now to train in the lead-up to the pre-season and rookie drafts next month.
St Kilda -Jason Blake (St Kilda)
Why would Jason Blake need permission to train seeing he was drafted last week :-\ ;D
You're right WP. Patrick Keane has corrected it although the AFL website still has Blake there.
Richmond
Pat Contin (Richmond), David Fahey (Coburg), Glen Grgic (Coburg), Ben Jakobi (Richmond), John McCarthy (Collingwood), Addam Maric (Melbourne), Leigh Masters (Coburg), William Wheeler (Coburg).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126619/default.aspx