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Title: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on November 24, 2011, 10:02:38 PM
A few named in the various phantom drafts missed out tonight so they will be available in the rookie draft.

Sam Frost ........... def/fwd      194cm   87kg      28/08/1993   Sandringham Dragons (Vic)
Zyrus Manson ..... forward      195cm   84kg      24/04/1993   Claremont (WA)
Julian Dobosz .....  forward      193cm   85kg      17/11/1992   North Hobart (Tas)
Myles Bolger ....... ruckman     201cm    90kg     25/03/1993   South Fremantle (WA)
Andrew Boseley .. defender     194cm    80kg     04/09/1992   Geelong Falcons (Vic)
Shane Nelson .....  midfielder   179cm    73kg     11/05/1993   West Perth (WA)         
Josh Waldhuter ..  midfielder    184cm   83kg     15/03/1993    Central District (SA)
Marley Williams ... mid/fwd      181cm    85kg     22/07/1993    Claremont (WA)
Michael Bussey .... fwd/def      196cm    81kg     05/07/1993    Eastern Ranges (Vic)
Brody Mihocek ....  utility         191cm    86kg     04/02/1993    Burnie (Tas)


 Interesting to see which way we go. I'm presuming we'll be again getting a few of the Victorian kids who missed out being drafted down to Punt Rd for a closer look first hand.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Danog on November 24, 2011, 10:35:21 PM
Would not mind having a closer look at Frost, Boseley and Nelson.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: tiger101 on November 24, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
Didn't Brody Mihocek make the U18 All-Australian team as a defender?  If he grows a few cm's through the year he could be a good prospect.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: tigs2011 on November 25, 2011, 12:33:11 AM
Where's The Cotch saying Marley Williams is better option than McKenzie?

Frost and Boseley can't kick. Would like Nelson, Bolger, Dobosz from that group.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 25, 2011, 06:22:54 AM
No more rangas please.

We need more wogs in our side.

Draft more wogs.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 25, 2011, 06:27:23 AM
Used Dobosz in the phantom draft, powerful mark and good kick..
Suprised he and frost were overlooked among others, but thats the way it works
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Coach on November 25, 2011, 06:36:20 AM
Dobosz is one of the worst field kicks going around. only been playing for a few years though
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 25, 2011, 06:51:50 AM
I was happy with what I saw in his highlights video
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 25, 2011, 07:11:16 AM
No more rangas please.

We need more wogs in our side.

Draft more wogs.

Agree! More wogs will equal more success  :lol
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Coach on November 25, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
I was happy with what I saw in his highlights video

Greg Miller was happy with JON's highlights video :lol
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: RollsRoyce on November 25, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
No more rangas please.

We need more wogs in our side.

Draft more wogs.

Nah, people might start confusing us with Carlton :lol
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 25, 2011, 08:56:49 AM
I was happy with what I saw in his highlights video

Greg Miller was happy with JON's highlights video :lol

Mate honestly, most of your posts are smart behind attacks, dont you have anything better to do??
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Coach on November 25, 2011, 09:01:23 AM
No, I don't. I just find it funny that you say you're surprised someone was overlooked because you're happy with his highlights package. WGAF about a highlights video? They're highlights. I've seen the kid play and he would be a long way off playing AFL football, IMO. But poo, I guess he looked okay on a highlights reel....

LMFAO "happy with his highlights"  :lol


Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 25, 2011, 09:13:01 AM
LOL
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on November 28, 2011, 01:52:40 PM
Ripe rookies
By Jason Phelan
Mon 28 Nov, 2011


THE 2011 NAB AFL Draft is in the books, but there's still a lot of footballing talent ripe for the picking at December's pre-season and rookie drafts.

Clubs looking to bolster their tall stocks are in luck because there are plenty of raw key prospects available who were overlooked at the national draft, but will be well worth a rookie spot that will allow them time to add some polish to their games.

Tasmanian Brody Mihocek made the All Australian team after an excellent national carnival, but he didn't hear his name called in Sydney last week and the highly competitive, 192cm defender can consider himself unlucky.

He's joined at the head of the list of rookie hopefuls by Sandringham's Sam Frost and Geelong Falcon Andrew Boseley.

Frost is an exciting athletic prospect who came to football late, but still attracted interest from several clubs after a good championships campaign with Vic Metro.

Slight queries over the 194cm defender's kicking action probably hurt him at the national draft, but he is an excellent rookie prospect with tremendous upside who will benefit from being in a full-time AFL environment.

Boseley is a long-limbed 192cm full-back who made the TAC Cup Team of the Year and would be capable of playing some football next year off a rookie list.

This year's big draft smoky, Waylen Manson, didn't find a club at the draft despite kicking bags of goals for Waratahs in the NTFL.

He's from a tiny community south east of Halls Creek in outback Western Australia and while clubs were wary of offering him a berth on their senior list, it won't surprise to see him join one of the WA clubs.

Justin Clarke, the centre half-back from Booleroo Centre in South Australia, loomed as a late swooper in the days before the draft, but also went unclaimed, as did Simon Tunbridge, who returned to Perth citing home sickness after spending a year with GWS as one of its 17-year-old concessionary players.

North Hobart's Julian Dobosz, South Fremantle's Myles Bolger, Geelong's Jai Sheahan and Sam Gordon, Eastern's Michael Bussey, Sandringham pair Xavier Richards and Fletcher Roberts, Oakleigh trio Damian Mascitti, Jake Hammond and Nick Murphy are all taller players who will also be strongly considered for selection at the rookie draft.

Dandenong forward Brett O'Hanlon doesn't quite fit into that category at 189cm, but his strength overhead will surely see him offered a rookie lifeline.

There will also be plenty of midfielders available at the December 13 draft meeting with West Perth's Shane Nelson probably the most surprising non-selection at the national draft.

He's a prolific ball winner with great endurance who can go forward and kick a goal and will surely be given a chance to impress from a rookie list.

Nelson's WA teammates Cam Eardley and Marley Williams will also rank highly among the remaining onballers as will Tasmanian skipper John McKenzie (who won All Australian honours this year), Murray Bushranger Jack Crisp, North Ballarat speedster Lachie Dalgleish, Northern Knight Michael Mascoulis and SA hard hitter Josh Waldhuter.

Mature-aged players Kyal Horsley, Lee Spurr and Darren Pfeiffer will also be in the mix after excellent seasons.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126608/default.aspx
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: dwaino on November 28, 2011, 06:25:42 PM
Wouldn't mind having Bolger in a rookie spot since there isn't anything to lose. But I imagine a teenager from WA wouldn't be keen on shipping to Melbourne just for a rookie position.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Loui Tufga on November 28, 2011, 06:36:02 PM
Wouldn't mind having Bolger in a rookie spot since there isn't anything to lose. But I imagine a teenager from WA wouldn't be keen on shipping to Melbourne just for a rookie position.

If the Kid want to play AFL then he should want to do what it takes, if he dosn't then we wouldn't want him anyway ;)
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: dwaino on November 28, 2011, 06:40:30 PM
Wouldn't mind having Bolger in a rookie spot since there isn't anything to lose. But I imagine a teenager from WA wouldn't be keen on shipping to Melbourne just for a rookie position.

If the Kid want to play AFL then he should want to do what it takes, if he dosn't then we wouldn't want him anyway ;)

Yeah that's all good and I was thinking that anyway. Just a bit of idle thought as I'm not overly fussed who we get as a rookie, pretty stoked with how our senior list is shaping. But 'home sick' seems to be such an infectious disease lately and bringing some snot nose all that way for a sympathy position sounds a bit much.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: dwaino on November 29, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126677/default.aspx

if the Cats are pilfering other sports for rookies then lets raid the Aussie Greco-Roman wrestling team. At least we'll get some bulk.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 04, 2011, 12:04:22 AM
tigs2011 has kindly allowed me to post his Rookies Depth Chart on OER:

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Rookies Depth Chart
By tigs2011

I have created a depth chart of our list to show the areas that need addressing in the draft next week.

I separated the players into different positions and obviously many players will play multiple roles so i tried to keep it to their primary roles. IMO all midfielders need to play both inside/outside to be effective but will obviously favour one or the other so have kept them to one category. I've also tried to rank them from: established in the team, high potential to be a very good player, potentially AFL quality/fringe player and fair chance they are gone within 2 years.

Chart is as follows:

KPD

Alex Rance
Dylan Grimes
David Astbury
Jayden Post
Kelvin Moore
Luke McGuane


Currently have 6 KPD but could feasibly have only 4 after next year.

Potential recruits:
Michael Bussey 197cm/80kg/18yo (Eastern Ranges)
Kyle Hartigan 194/93/20 (Werribee VFL)
Tom Lee 192/88/20 (Claremont WAFL)



Small Lock Down Defender

Matthew Dea
Steven Morris

Currently have 2 unproven players in this category and I wouldn't mind seeing another one with good skills added.

Potential recruits:
Daniel Garside 187/82/19 (St.Bedes/Mentone VAFA)



Rebounding Defenders

Chris Newman
Bachar Houli
Jake Batchelor
Brandon Ellis
John Heslin**
Daniel Connors

Probably one of our strongest areas. IMO Ellis will have an impact next year leaving us with 4 players fighting for spots. Doubt we will add more than 1 in the rookie draft.

Potential recruits:
David Mirra 188/84/20 (Box Hill Hawks VFL)
Brayden O'Hara 183/82/24 (Centrals SANFL)
Michael Florio 188/78/20 (Perth WAFL)
Louis Egger 180/78/18 (NT Thunder)
Ben Darrou 190/97/18 (Sandringham Dragons



Inside Midfielders

Dustin Martin
Trent Cotchin
Nathan Foley
Reece Conca
Brad Helbig
Matthew Arnot
Shane Tuck
Daniel Jackson

Good mix of quality/potential and we look like adding McCarthy to the ranks. Wouldn't mind us picking up another prospect or even a mature-ager in the draft.

Potential recruits:
John McCarthy 189/82/22 (Collingwood)
Kyal Horsley 182/88/23 (Subiaco WAFL)
Tom Sundberg 184/78/23 (Collingwood VFL)
Mat Suckling 182/82/21 (Norwood SANFL)
Willie Wheeler 179/78/19 (Coburg VFL)
Josh Waldhuter 183/84/18 (Centrals SANFL)
Doug Morris 185/87/18 (Northern Knights)
Jack Charleston 177/83/18 (Western Jets)



Outside Midfielders

Brett Deledio
Shaun Grigg
Shane Edwards
Matthew White
Jeromey Webberley


Other than Deledio where is the quality here?? Grigg/Edwards are chances to come good but that's about it. Need to grab 1 or 2 who can win their own ball as well.

Potential recruits:
Steve Verrier 187/76/18
Shane Nelson 177/69/18
Jack Crisp 190/83/18
Lachlan Dalgleish 184/78/18



Rucks

Ivan Maric
Tom Derickx
Andrew Browne
Angus Graham

We have a few rucks now. Think Graham will be in trouble soon but not much quality in the draft IMO.

Potential recruits:
Myles Bolger 202/95/18
Chad Sandilands 205/93/18



KPF

Jack Riewoldt
Tyrone Vickery
Ben Griffiths
Todd Elton
Brad Miller

Another strength of ours as we already have 2 KPF's and 2 other potential AFL quality. Doubt we will take another in the draft.

Potential recruits:
Nick Murphy 193/87/18
Ben Gazzola 192/83/21
Ben Brown 199/93/19



Medium Forwards

Dean MacDonald

1 medium forward on the entire list is pretty poor. Can't imagine us not addressing this list need in the draft with at least 1 rookie if not 2.

Potential recruits:
Cameron Shenton 188/84/21
Aaron Hall 186/82/20
Damien Mascitti 187/74/19
Jake Hammond 188/84/18
Lee Spurr 182/79/24
Daniel Farmer 188/84/19
Will Farrer 184/75/21
Carl Peterson 183/??/24




Small Forwards

Robin Nahas
Jake King

Another weakness on the list. Nahas is good quality and King plays his role well but won't be around forever. Need to get a couple of x-factor small forwards in.

Potential recruits:
Addam Maric 177/76/21
Marley Williams 181/81/18
Gibson Turner 177/69/18
Alroy Gilligan 177/72/21
Darren Minchington 179/80/18



Ideal draft IMO would be:

PSD: John McCarthy (Inside Mid)

RD: Cameron Shenton (Med Fwd), Daniel Garside (Small Def), David Mirra (Reb Def), Gibson Turner (Small Fwd), Steve Verrier (Outside Mid), Will Farrer (Med Fwd)
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Coach on December 04, 2011, 12:12:42 AM
Dea a chance to be a very good player and Helbig only a chance to be a fringe/AFL standard player? dunno about that.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: tigs2011 on December 04, 2011, 12:42:55 AM
Dea a chance to be a very good player and Helbig only a chance to be a fringe/AFL standard player? dunno about that.

Yer found it hard to classify them without a group for each player. Put Dea in the upper category with Conca/Batchelor/Grimes because the coaching staff clearly rate him. I put potential AFL quality players like Helbig and fringe players like Edwards/Grigg in the same category to save effort.  :shh

I think Helbig will make it. Griffiths/Elton were the others i found really hard to place.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: 10 FLAGS on December 04, 2011, 01:12:35 AM
John McCarthy, Brett O'Hanlon, Shane Nelson and Gibson Turner would be a good group.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 06, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
A couple of the BF phantom draft posters have done a mock rookie draft as well:

This is what they have for Richmond:

Snoop Dog's phantom rookie draft:

# 7 Richmond - Josh Waldhunter (Central Districts / 183 / 83 / 93)
Got plenty of admirers this kid and was a little surprised his name wasnt called in the ND. Terrific player who has played Champ football the last 2 years and been a really good performer. Tough uncompromising type of player who will be ready for senior footy pretty quickly. Is a midfielder who will probably start more as a HB and has some similarities to Aidan Riley actually. Probably not a type who has heaps of x factor but he is very good at the clearances and his ball use by hand in traffic is a real feature. Also has a pretty penetrating kick as well and can kick through the lines. He is certainly a good addition. Will play seniors fairly quickly and is a nice addition to Richmond and is a Hardwick type player.

# 25 Richmond - Gibson Turner (NT – small midfielder)
Small fwd from NT who was invited to DC and I thought was a genuine shot at a slot on GWS list. Is a terrific type and reminds very much of a young Leon Davis. Terrific pace and agility and very good 1:1 and even better when the ball hits the ground. Another who I would have as a mid range pick in the draft. Real favourite of mine.

# 43 Richmond - Sam Gordon (Geelong / Tall Fwd)
Ex AIS kid who is a super height for a KPF but has been up and down this year. Plays APS so we havent seen much of him but he went reasonably well at the champs vs Tas and SA and was missed in their final game after injuring his ankle. Came back in last couple of weeks for Falcons and has been good. In fact he has done well in all his TAC games this year averaging over 3 goals per game. Is reasonably good aerobically and sound over the first few yards to create space and distance but he is an absolute competitor and in the vision I have seen just looks like he will become a player. In saying all that he is a bit unknown because he didn’t test other than for height and was a bit shorter than what would have been ideal.

# 61 Richmond - Corey Dell'olio (South Fremantle - small fwd)
22 yo who has come along really well and who I caught a few times this year. Ended up with something like 50+ goals and has been largely unheralded. Maybe a bit like Patrick Rose in that he isnt your classic crumber he is more your power small fwd like Mark WIlliams or Paul Medhurst was. Still he brings something and would be a chance in the rookie on what I saw.

# 79 Richmond - John Heslin (Ireland)

# 97 Richmond - PASS

Snoop Dog's full rookie phantom draft at: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=894434


Chris25's phantom rookie draft:

#7 Richmond – Michael Musicka (184cm midfielder - South Launceston)
I quite like Musicka. History says only so many Tasmanians will get picked, but on AFL attributes alone I would probably have him ahead of McKenzie. Quick winger who can run off half back, good mark too. Some suggestions of behavioural issues earlier in the year, but I'd give him a shot.

#25 Richmond – Aseri Raikiwasa (191cm defender - Port Adelaide)
One of my favourite defensive prospects in the draft, but the rookie draft was always his best shot. He has been working with the another Fijian defender in Alipate Carlile. And when it comes to Aseri you can guarantee that nobody will be working harder to make it. He performed strongly for SA, and has already become a leader on the field. He has a great build, so development will likely be about defensive work as opposed to strength.

#43 Richmond – Jake Hammond (188cm forward - Oakleigh)
Really nice player, and one I wouldn't have been surprised had he gone in the national draft. Height is probably what held him back, because he tends to play taller than what he actually is and that doesn't always work all that well at AFL level. As a third tall though he offers a lot, would probably be one who could see early game time too like a Karnezis.

#61 Richmond – Addam Maric (176cm forward - Melbourne)
I have a feeling Maric will be one of those players who never lives up to their potential, and getting delisted by Melbourne isn't a good start. Personally I'd rather see Peter Persinos get selected as I view him as a more natural goal kicker or maybe even Will Shea who offers a bit more x factor. But Maric will get another shot.

# 79 Richmond - John Heslin (Ireland)

Chris25's full phantom rookie draft at: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893933
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 08, 2011, 03:45:44 PM
AFL_PKeane Patrick Keane twitter:

"Richmond (7 picks) - 7, 25, 43, 60, 74, 84, 90."
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 08, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
AFL_PKeane Patrick Keane twitter:

"Richmond (7 picks) - 7, 25, 43, 60, 74, 84, 90."

Suppose the question is will we use all of them

Do we have too?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 08, 2011, 04:04:46 PM
Suppose the question is will we use all of them

Do we have too?
I believe the minimum requirement is having 4 rookies on your playing list so if that's right then the answer is no WP. The talk around seems to be that we will use all but one of our rookie picks.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 08, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
I reckon we will re-rookie Contin & Jackobi

And probably take the mini Maric

So that's 3 out of 7  ;D
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: gerkin greg on December 08, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
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Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: RedanTiger on December 08, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
AFL_PKeane Patrick Keane twitter:

"Richmond (7 picks) - 7, 25, 43, 60, 74, 84, 90."

What about Heslin?
With he and Miller that's two slots of the eight.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Penelope on December 08, 2011, 06:55:15 PM
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Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
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Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
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Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: mightytiges on December 10, 2011, 03:22:04 PM
I reckon we will re-rookie Contin & Jackobi

And probably take the mini Maric

So that's 3 out of 7  ;D
I don't see Jakobi making it. Probably Contin, Wheeler and maybe Maric as the 3 out of the 7. Heslin will be the last pick so that makes four. That would leave us with 3 unknown rookie picks.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 11, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
Wheeler mentioned in The Age today as getting picked up in the rookie draft. Presumably it'll be by us.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dons-set-to-draft-liston-winner-20111210-1oovf.html
Title: Rookie draft - Consolation Prize (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on December 12, 2011, 05:06:07 AM
Consolation Prize
Emma Quayle
December 12, 2011


For those overlooked in last month's draft, tomorrows rookie and pre-season drafts offers a second chance.
 

LAUCHLAN DALGLEISH
Midfielder, 184cm, 76kg
From North Ballarat Rebels
Dalgleish won the 120-metre Terang Gift in 12.25 seconds three days after missing out in the national draft. Starred at the draft combine after five weeks off with a punctured lung, finishing top five in the clean hands test, the agility run, the 20-metre sprint and the repeat sprint test. A club should choose him in the hope that his running ability becomes even more damaging.
 

MYLES BOLGER
Ruckman, 202cm, 95kg
From South Fremantle
Only three young ruckmen — Billy Longer (No. 8), Tom Downie (No. 56) and Corey Gault (No. 65) — were drafted, with queries on Bolger’s kicking and ability to impact on games by taking marks seeing him slip through. He’s missed a lot of football with a foot injury ruling him out for all of last year and disrupting his preparation for the season just gone. He moves well and has a competitive streak. Given more time, he’s one who could surprise.
 

FLETCHER ROBERTS
Forward, 193cm, 84kg
From Sandringham Dragons
Roberts was in the mix for a few clubs on draft day, and may be gone before the rookie draft, with the Western Bulldogs one of the interested parties. He was one of many talls overlooked, with clubs grabbing those who had been consistently competitive. In draft combine testing Roberts was a just bit behind some of the others in speed, agility and endurance. That said, on his day he took hold of games, never more so than in the TAC Cup grand final when he kicked three goals in a 21-possession game. There’s plenty to work with here — he’ll just need some time.
 

SHANE NELSON
Midfielder, 178cm, 78kg
From West Perth
Nelson did some nice things as a link-up midfielder this year, and can slide through traffic and get away with pace. What probably had him slip through the national draft was his kicking. While he did well in draft combine testing, his disposal can get a bit scrappy under pressure and lacks penetration. He gets to contests, can win the ball and kicks goals. He’ll surely get a chance as a rookie.
 

JULIAN DOBOSZ
Forward, 190cm, 82kg
From North Hobart
Dobosz, a full-forward, is reasonably new to football, having played cricket. He kicked a lot of goals for North Hobart at the start of last season, then again for the Tasmanian under-18 team. He relied a lot on his nous around goal rather than leading and marking. Whether he has the pace to play this way against more agile opponents at AFL level is the question, particularly given he’s an in-between size.
 

JAI SHEAHAN
Forward, 195cm, 82kg
From Geelong Falcons
Sheahan is another tall who was overlooked for those who played with a little more urgency, and have a burst of speed. But he improved as last season unfolded, can certainly grab a mark and can kick, which should get him his chance.
 

ANDREW BOSELEY
Defender, 192cm, 75kg
From Geelong Falcons
Boseley played for the Falcons as a 19-year-old key defender this year, and was eye-catching for the way he would fly in to make a well-timed spoil, gather the ball and sprint away. His challenge is to polish up his skills, but he has a strong competitive streak that makes him ideal rookie draft material, particularly given he played out the season with a shoulder injury.
 

SAM FROST
Defender, 194cm, 94kg
From Sandringham Dragons
Frost was in the mix for a few clubs at the national draft, but slipped through. He was one of the more athletic players available, yet having only recently decided to focus on football instead of basketball, his game sense was less developed than some of the “safer” draft picks. At times he looked incredibly exciting and at other times you weren’t sure what he’d do next, but he’s good enough to play AFL.
 

JACK CRISP
Half-back/half-forward, 190cm, 83kg
From Murray Bushrangers
Crisp’s ability to read the ball across the fl anks and take off with it is his biggest asset. His speed and kicking were the most obvious reason he didn’t hear his name called as, at times during the national carnival, his accuracy was below 40 per cent, although he did well in the draft combine testing. But he has genuine smarts and tackles well.
 

NICK MURPHY
Forward, 193cm, 81kg
From Oakleigh Chargers
Inconsistency and work rate probably cost Murphy, who would dominate a game for a quarter or a half, then fade out. But he is a natural forward who knows where to lead and how to manoeuvre himself into marking positions. He has definite AFL potential if he can become more consistent.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/consolation-prize-20111211-1opwi.html#ixzz1gFao4vPO
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WA Tiger on December 12, 2011, 05:50:49 AM
How many rookies will we pick up?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 12, 2011, 12:38:43 PM
How many rookies will we pick up?
We have 7 picks in the rookie draft but whether we use all of them is yet to be seen. Last year we passed on the last pick so we could keep a spot open while we trialed 3 players at training over summer (Casserley and two others). We could do the same again this year I'd guess.

Word from Kristian Pisano on twitter is Addam Maric looks set to become a Tiger in tomorrow's rookie draft. In that case 4 of the 7 picks are most likely Maric, Wheeler, Contin and Heslin.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WA Tiger on December 12, 2011, 03:58:15 PM
How many rookies will we pick up?
We have 7 picks in the rookie draft but whether we use all of them is yet to be seen. Last year we passed on the last pick so we could keep a spot open while we trialed 3 players at training over summer (Casserley and two others). We could do the same again this year I'd guess.

Word from Kristian Pisano on twitter is Addam Maric looks set to become a Tiger in tomorrow's rookie draft. In that case 4 of the 7 picks are most likely Maric, Wheeler, Contin and Heslin.

Very good, thanks OE!
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: gerkin greg on December 12, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
junior prodigy  :shh
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: bojangles17 on December 12, 2011, 07:18:17 PM
and likely the only one capable of playing senior footy in 2012 :shh
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: RedanTiger on December 12, 2011, 07:57:21 PM
Think the priority should be tall defenders and medium forwards but I assume we will take Nelson, Wheeler, Maric, Contin, and Heslin. 
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Coach on December 12, 2011, 07:59:27 PM
Dobosz is bigger than that.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 12, 2011, 10:05:45 PM
Josh waldhunter sounds good.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:15:56 AM
AFL.com.au:
Rookie Draft pick 1 (GWS Giants): Sam Frost (Sandringham Dragons)
11:10
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 2 GC Suns: Kyal Horsley
11:10
   
   
Comment From Michael
Who is Brett O'Hanlon
11:10
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 3 (Port Adelaide) Darren Pfeiffer
11:11
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 4 (Brisbane): Justin Clarke
11:11
   
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 5 Adelaide: Rory Laird
11:11
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 6 (Melbourne) Jai Sheehan
11:11
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 7 (Richmond): Addam Maric
11:11
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 8 (Fremantle): Lee Spurr
11:12
   

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 9 (Western Bulldogs): Ling Jong
11:12
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 10: North Melbourne: Max Warren
11:12
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 11 (Essendon): Lauchlan Dalgleish
11:12
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 12 St Kilda: Sam Dunnell
11:13
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 13 (Sydney Swans): Shane Biggs
11:13
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 14 (Carlton): Tom Bell
11:13
   
   
Comment From stephen
any ex players to join the sains in rookie draft
11:13
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 15 (WCE): Michael Mascoulis
11:14
   
   
Comment From charlie
what position does Brett O'Hanlon play?
11:14
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 16 (Hawthorn): Broc McCauley
11:14
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 17 (Collingwood): Lachlan Smith
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 13, 2011, 11:18:36 AM
Tigers take Ben Darrou with it's 2nd rookie pick (No. 25)
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 18 (Geelong): Cam Eardley
11:15
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 19 (GWS Giants): Pass
11:15
   
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 20: GC Suns: Andrew McQualter
11:15
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 21 (port Adelaide): Danny Butcher
11:16
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 22 (Brisbane Lions); Stephen Wrigley
11:16

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 23 (Adelaide): Dylan Orval
11:16
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 24: Melbourne: Thomas Crouch
11:16
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 25 (Richmond): Ben Darrou
11:16
   

AFL.com.au:
Pick 26 (Fremantle): Haiden Schlothe
11:17
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 27 (Western Bulldogs): Tom Campbell

AFL.com.au:
Pick 28 (North Melbourne): Brad Mangan
11:18
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 29 (Essendon): Corey Dell'Olio

FL.com.au:
Pick 30 (St Kilda): Cameron Shenton
11:18
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 31 (Sydney Swans): Campbell Heath
11:19
   

AFL.com.au:
Pick 32 (Carlton): Nick Heyne
11:19

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 33 (West Coast Eagles): Callum Papertalk
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
AFL.com.au:
Pick 34 (Hawthorn): Amos Frank
11:19
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 35 (Collingwood): Marley Williams

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 36 (Geelong): Jackson Sheringham


AFL.com.au:
Pick 37 (GWS Giants): Pass

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 38 (GC Suns): Michael Coad
11:23
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 39 (Port Adelaide): Pass
11:23
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 40 (Brisbane Lions): Jack Crisp
11:23
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 41 (Adelaide): Tim McIntyre
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:26:40 AM
AFL.com.au:
Pick 43 (Richmond): Steven Verrier
11:24
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 44 (Fremantle): Sam Menegola
11:25
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 45 (Western Bulldogs): Alex Greenwood


AFL.com.au:
Pick 46 (North Melbourne): Malcolm Lynch
11:25
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 47 (Essendon): Mark Baguley

Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:30:23 AM
AFL.com.au:
Pick 48 (St Kilda): Jordan Staley


   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 49 (Sydney Swans): pass
11:27
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 50 (Carlton): Frazer Dale


Pick 51 (West Coast Eagles): Simon Tunbridge


   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 52 (Hawthorn): Andrew Boseley
11:27
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 53 (Collingwood): Trent Stubbs


   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 54 (Geelong): Mark Blicavs


AFL.com.au:
Pick 55 (GWS Giants): Pass
11:29
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 56 (GC Suns): Pass


   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 57 (Brisbane Lions): Richard Newell
11:30
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 58 (Adelaide): Will Young
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:33:27 AM
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 59 (Melbourne): Leigh Williams
11:30

AFL.com.au:
Pick 60 (Richmond): Gibson Turner
11:31
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 61 (Fremantle): Jordan King
11:31

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 62 (Western Bulldogs): Jack Redpath


AFL.com.au:
Pick 63 (North Melbourne): Sam Gibson
11:31
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 64 (Essendon): Hal Hunter

AFL.com.au:
Pick 65 (St Kilda): Darren Minchington


AFL.com.au:
Pick 66 (Sydney Swans): pass
11:32
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 67 (Carlton): Matthew Lodge

AFL.com.au:
Pick 68 (West Coast Eagles): Brad Dick
11:32
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 69 (Hawthorn): Adam Pattison   :o

Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 13, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
That's not the former tiger Patto is it  :gobdrop
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 70 (Collingwood): Daniel Farmer

AFL.com.au:
Picks 71 and 72 (GWS Giants): Pass

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 73 (Adelaide): James Craig


AFL.com.au:
Pick 74 (Richmond): Piva Wright
11:35
   

AFL.com.au:
Pick 75 (Fremantle): Clancee Pearce
11:35

   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 76 (Western Bulldogs): Mark Austin


AFL.com.au:
Pick 77 (North Melbourne): Gavin Urquhart

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 78 (Essendon): Brendan Lee

   
AFL.com.au:
Picks 79 and 80 pass
11:38

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 81 (Collingwood): Caolan Mooney
11:39
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 82, 83, 84: Pass
11:39
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 85 (Essendon): Anthony Long


   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 86: Pass
11:39
   

AFL.com.au:
Pick 87 (Collingwood): Michael Hartley

AFL.com.au:
Pick 88: Pass
11:39
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 89 (Adelaide): Ben Dowdell

Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:42:59 AM
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 90 (Richmond): John Heslin
11:40
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Picks 91 and 92 pass
11:41
   
   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 93 (Sydney Swans): Harry Cunningham

   
AFL.com.au:
Pick 94 (GC Suns): Josh Hall

AFL.com.au:
Pick 95 (Sydney Swans); Jack Lynch

That's all folks!
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:43:36 AM
That's not the former tiger Patto is it  :gobdrop
Yep it is WP :rollin



No Willie Wheeler?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 13, 2011, 11:44:48 AM
No Willie Wheeler?

Yep he better wheel himself back to Coburg  ;D

Also no Travis Tuck from what I could see
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on December 13, 2011, 11:48:22 AM
Will we do what we did last year and get a couple there to fight  it out for that last rookie spot ? Sounds like a plan to me.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on December 13, 2011, 12:04:02 PM
Or maybe im wrong.  From the draft ticker

"Adam McNicol: P.S. - No clubs elected to select training squad rookies, like Hawthorn did with Travis Tuck and a couple of others last year. There will be no training squads in operation this summer. "

Does that mean we cant do what we did last year ?????
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 13, 2011, 06:06:51 PM
Or maybe im wrong.  From the draft ticker

"Adam McNicol: P.S. - No clubs elected to select training squad rookies, like Hawthorn did with Travis Tuck and a couple of others last year. There will be no training squads in operation this summer. "

Does that mean we cant do what we did last year ?????

if we passed our last rookie pick (outside heslin)

why would we not have wheeler/contin/whoever else training  for the last rookie spot? 

If we are allowed to like last year ie. Casserly or have the afl changed the rules again.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: gerkin greg on December 13, 2011, 06:15:23 PM
Because Miller Time has the last spot
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 07:20:11 PM
The Richmond crew in the Punt Rd boardroom during the rookie draft.... (courtesy of RFC twitter)

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg814/scaled.php?tn=0&server=814&filename=z6fae.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/mmz6faej
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: gerkin greg on December 13, 2011, 09:00:10 PM
eff me get some skills

How hard is it to take a photo in focus these days?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 13, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Pass better option than willy wheeler. Chad sanderlands?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Mr Magic on December 13, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
Because Miller Time has the last spot

Or is he on the main list as the RFC site indicates?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: Wildride on December 14, 2011, 08:29:09 AM
Miller can't be on the main list, we didn't delist enough players for there to be a spot for him.
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 14, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
Because Miller Time has the last spot

Or is he on the main list as the RFC site indicates?

Miller is on the rookie list

And we still have 1 rookie spot spare, hence why we had 7 picks and not eight  ;D

But it appears no clubs this year are using the "rookie squad" option this season
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: TigerLand on December 14, 2011, 12:01:54 PM
So is Contin goneski?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 15, 2011, 07:00:48 AM
So is Contin goneski?

Yes skis
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: mightytiges on December 19, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
So is Contin goneski?

Yes skis
Will either Wheeler and/or Contin still be playing for Coburg next year?
Title: Re: Rookie Draft / Overlooked draftees
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 19, 2011, 07:00:07 AM
Will either Wheeler and/or Contin still be playing for Coburg next year?

I believe Wheeler is signed for Coburg in 2012. Think he was already signed to play before the draft.