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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 13, 2011, 11:17:08 AM
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Welcome Ben
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From Snoop Dog's Phantom on BF
# 81 Western Bulldogs - Ben Darrou (Sandy Dragons - Tall Defender)
Tall HB type who didn’t really rate early in year because I just didnt think he moved well enough but saw some of his games later in the season and thought I was watching a different player. Attacks the ball really well and makes good decisions when he gets it. Kicking is good so the only thing I was worried about was would he test well enough and he did so you would think he is a definate chance. Certainly has all the footy smarts and skills.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=894434
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Ben DARROU (Sandringnam Dragons)
DOB: 25/11/93. Ht: 190cm. Wt: 93kg.
Pos: Tall defender.
"Ben had an outstanding finals series down back and finished the year off really well. He's a big-bodied defender who can play on tails and mediums and is a beautiful user of the ball by foot. He needs to work on a few areas such as endurance, but he has what it takes to step up to the next level and be a quality performer." - Sandringham Dragons region manager Ryan O'Connor.
Vic Metro representative 2011.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVqL4boIkg
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Francis Jackson on Darrou:
"He's a really strong-bodied defender - one of those position types that seems to succeed off the rookie draft. We went though all of his vision and found him to be really strong defensively and very brave. He's got good composure when he's got the footy and he's also a really efficient kick."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127102/default.aspx
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Pics:
(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ben+Darrou+TAC+Cup+Rd+1+Sandringham+Dragons+kgwrq94aHHrl.jpg) (http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ben+Darrou+TAC+Cup+Rd+9+Western+Jets+v+Sandringham+B5-N-XaE5mUl.jpg)
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/DARROU-Ben-246B.jpg) (http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jack+McNamara+Solomon+TAC+Cup+Preliminary+PPOHaITBes7l.jpg)
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darrou can really play
IMHO the most likely to make it as a long termer in the afl.
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(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388761_10150468191843276_298686323275_8596931_421816518_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150468181493276.389267.298686323275&type=1&l=32d18271aa (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150468181493276.389267.298686323275&type=1&l=32d18271aa)
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Looks greek lol
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Looks greek lol
He's Moroccan ;)
His parents own and run Safi's restaurant in Gardenvale.
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Looks greek lol
He's Moroccan ;)
His parents own and run Safi's restaurant in Gardenvale.
Good to know
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Looks greek lol
He's Moroccan ;)
His parents own and run Safi's restaurant in Gardenvale.
Wonder if we get a discount if we flash membership. Not too far from me :)
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Looks greek lol
lol, he looks as greek as I do Nigerian :lol
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Now that's funny :rollin
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I've scanned in this article about Darrou that is in the Melbourne Weekly.
Tiger enjoys purple patch
Ben Darrou works hard to kick off his career in the AFL.
By Daniel Paproth
Melbourne Weekly
January 16, 2012
If you’re looking for a pathway into the AFL, you could do worse than attend Wesley College. In 2011, no fewer than six year 12 students were drafted to AFL clubs through the national and rookie drafts. It’s a record for the school, which won the 2010 Associated Public Schools of Victoria premiership and finished fourth in 2011.
One of those students was Ormond resident Ben Darrou (pictured right), who was drafted to Richmond with pick No. 25 in the rookie draft. Darrou attended the college’s St Kilda Road campus and admits he was late to football, only taking it up in year 7.
“I played tennis and soccer but all my mates were playing footy and I didn’t want to be the odd one out,” he says.
His talent soon became apparent, and he was soon in the under-15 development squad for TAC Cup side Sandringham Dragons.
In 2010 he played bottom-age for the Dragons in the official TAC Cup competition, and last year played representative football for Vic Metro, also fitting in school football.
Darrou says it’s been a whirlwind few years, which culminated in a drought-breaking premiership for Wesley College in 2010.
“We didn’t really have much respect in terms of being a good footy school,” he admits. “But my year level and the year above us were pretty good and as we got older, our firsts became really good and we delivered the first premiership for the college in 31 years.”
Playing TAC Cup football provides a good platform for hopeful draftees, and it wasn’t long before some AFL clubs came knocking at the door.
Darrou was approached by a number of clubs, but the Richmond selection was an 11thhour development.
“They were the last club I spoke to,” he says. “They rang me the Wednesday before the draft and asked if I wanted to check out the club.
“So I went down to Punt Road and they showed me around … that was the only real contact I had with them and now here I am.”
He has been at the Tigers since midDecember and says he is settling in comfortably.
“They’ve been really good, nice people,” he says. “Because the list is so young, the players are good at giving out advice and helping you because it’s not that long ago they were in the same position.”
Darrou says his first AFL pre-season has been a huge step up from TAC Cup and school football. “They go flat out the entire time, concentrating 100 per cent and matching the intensity of a match.
“Then you’ve got all the running and the weights … it’s pretty tough but you get through it.”
Darrou’s first goal is to establish a regular senior spot at Coburg, Richmond’s VFL affiliate.
“I need to be playing good footy and from there we’ll see what happens but I have to give myself the best possible chance by working as hard as I can.”
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VIDEO: Ben Darrou's background ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-12/bens-background
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Great little video on him at RFC and has had a fantastic year. Would love to see him take Astbury's spot in the back line, can play!
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was rubbish on the weekend
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was rubbish on the weekend
Yep, not his best but overall his development and year has been huge.
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Coming along very nicely Ty, quite a canny selection fj....again ...perhaps ask claw for a bullseye insight into another player he s never seen play before . :lol
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Ben Darrou in focus
richmondfc.com.au
October 23, 2013
Tim Clarke says: He’s really one to watch. I can see him being the full-back at AFL level. He just needs to get his athletic ability to match what he’s like as a footballer and match his drive. If he can do that, he’s going to be a real player for us.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-23/ben-darrou-in-focus
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Going by the article Ben Darrou is being retained as a 3rd year rookie :clapping :clapping
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Heard only today from a club insider that Big Benny is very highly rated and likely to play next year.
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The big Moroccan marvel :shh
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It's the Rockin Moroccan mate FFS ::)
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This isn't what you had for lunch :banghead
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Kid's going to be a good 'un indeed. I'd upgrade him ahead of the likes of Petterd & Lonergan. (particularly if we plan to cotinue the absolute folly of playing the former in defence.) Has all the attributes to be our Josh Gibson and then some.
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Wouldn't want to come across the lad in a dark alley
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with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
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Kid's going to be a good 'un indeed. I'd upgrade him ahead of the likes of Petterd & Lonergan. (particularly if we plan to cotinue the absolute folly of playing the former in defence.) Has all the attributes to be our Josh Gibson and then some.
I honestly feel Petterd and Lonergan are stop gap and you'd hope some kid does knock them out of the 22 this year. Not that Lonergan is in the 22. If its Darrou then good on him. :thumbsup
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Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
:lol
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Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
:lol
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
:lol
He is cheap depth, why waste it when all your gonna replace him with is a 5th round draft pick.
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Kid has a bright future in the northern Football League that's about all off load him and try another rookie out
GO U TIGERS
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Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
He is cheap depth, why waste it when all your gonna replace him with is a 5th round draft pick.
Why would he be replaced with a 5th round draft pick? Is the scrap bin all out of rejects like Lonergan? Can do better than this bloke.
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Kid has a bright future in the northern Football League that's about all off load him and try another rookie out
GO U TIGERS
How do you come to this conclusion when so many others rate him? :huh
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Kid has a bright future in the northern Football League that's about all off load him and try another rookie out
GO U TIGERS
How do you come to this conclusion when so many others rate him? :huh
He's no Stephen Silvagni
As much ad it pains me to say
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Kid has a bright future in the northern Football League that's about all off load him and try another rookie out
GO U TIGERS
How do you come to this conclusion when so many others rate him? :huh
He's no Stephen Silvagni
As much ad it pains me to say
Neither was Stephen Silvagni until the moved him from the forward line to the backline.
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:banghead another case of a club being too cutesy trying to turn a player into something they aren't
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there's already talk he's likely to be the best afl player to come out of Morocco, and I wouldn't be doubting it just quietly :shh
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last time I saw him play he was slow. has he improved his pace over the first 10 metres ... if he hasnt he hasnt got a hope IMHO. Very average player IMHO.
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Sac Dawson average too
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there's already talk he's likely to be the best afl player to come out of Morocco, and I wouldn't be doubting it just quietly :shh
:lol
One of your best BJ. :clapping
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there's already talk he's likely to be the best afl player to come out of Morocco, and I wouldn't be doubting it just quietly :shh
:lol
He's the most amazing player I've ever seen with a kebab. ;D
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i call dibs on his dad's hash cookies
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Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
:lol
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
Lonergan should be removed to live out his days as a VFL player
with your pants down, an egg beater and a stick of cabana with a big poo eating Bojangles grin on your face?
:lol
He is cheap depth, why waste it when all your gonna replace him with is a 5th round draft pick.
chris cain please. would be a massive upgrade on lonergan and hes a vfl player currently. could reel off numerous state league players worth trying who may give more than lonergan and who certainly have far better attributes to play afl thus enhancing the chances of finding a better player.
your asking the wrong question . it should be why hang onto a below standard player when you can attempt to give a game to a player who should make the grade.
what you suggest is tantamount to sitting on your hands and doing nothing. time stands still for no one, certainly not afl clubs.
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Will he be given one game before delisted?
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Put him in for Hampson, couldn't care if he is slow as treacle
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will we lose a gem without giving him a game?
Jay Shultz of the backline?
I heard the Sydney recruiting manager call him the black Ted Richards :shh
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Get him in FFS or should we wait like we did with Miles???? :banghead
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Da Who? Queue ghost busters theme.
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Da Who? Queue ghost busters theme.
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ben+Darrou+TAC+Cup+Rd+9+Western+Jets+v+Sandringham+B5-N-XaE5mUl.jpg)
:bow
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Would like to see him in the seniors. Not sure that its going to happen though. Til then. Da Who!
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Give him a game. See how he performs at the senior level
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Josh Gibson mk.II with armour plating.
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newman thinks he's better
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Da Who? Queue ghost busters theme.
Dar-rou Dar-rou, Dar-rou is on fire!
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Dimma proved with Miles that he is a stuffhead, Miles who? Oh does he play for us??? Really??
Play this kid and give him a block of games.. its the only way we can see
Then again Chaplin has now cemented his spot for next century so I doubt it.... :banghead
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Dimmer -"Who's the dark guy that plays in the backline for the VFL?"
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Dimmer -"Who's the dark guy that plays in the backline for the VFL?"
"Is he listed?"
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Word is Hardwick has spent the season watching Coburg each week.
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Word is Hardwick has spent the season watching Coburg each week.
Ha!
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
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Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
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Pity he has to be elevated though, Club has made it clear they wont be elevating anyone else this year so Ben's chances are zilch
Woll be interesting what they do though. Don't think they can rookie him again (stand corrected if that's not right) so if they can't it's either put him on the senior list or he goes back in the draft
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I rate a player's talent before a player's measurements and Darrou has more than enough of the former IMO. claw & Yeahnah probably thought Josh Gibson was never going to make it either.
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I rate a player's talent before a player's measurements and Darrou has more than enough of the former IMO. claw & Yeahnah probably thought Josh Gibson was never going to make it either.
Have to have a guess and that's what I did. Gibson has attributes that Darrou does not, not that I ever made a call on Gibson cause who really cares? Heaven forbid someone have a different opinion
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I rate a player's talent before a player's measurements and Darrou has more than enough of the former IMO. claw & Yeahnah probably thought Josh Gibson was never going to make it either.
Have to have a guess and that's what I did. Gibson has attributes that Darrou does not, not that I ever made a call on Gibson cause who really cares? Heaven forbid someone have a different opinion
Was merely mocking your opinion, didn't say you weren't entitled to it.
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
I think you're wrong because of all the reasons you pointed out yourself in your post about his VFL performances and I see no reason to believe these things won't translate into the AFL Also he's not quite as slow as everyone makes out - put it this way, he's no slower than Kelvin Moore was and at the very least will be a better version of him IMO. He doesn't get caught trailing 10 metres behind his opponent for a start. I also disagree with the view he can't attack or set up the play, he has vastly improved in this area, particularly this year.
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
I think you're wrong because of all the reasons you pointed out yourself in your post about his VFL performances and I see no reason to believe these things won't translate into the AFL Also he's not quite as slow as everyone makes out - put it this way, he's no slower than Kelvin Moore was and at the very least will be a better version of him IMO. He doesn't get caught trailing 10 metres behind his opponent for a start. I also disagree with the view he can't attack or set up the play, he has vastly improved in this area, particularly this year.
Agreed.
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
I think you're wrong because of all the reasons you pointed out yourself in your post about his VFL performances and I see no reason to believe these things won't translate into the AFL Also he's not quite as slow as everyone makes out - put it this way, he's no slower than Kelvin Moore was and at the very least will be a better version of him IMO. He doesn't get caught trailing 10 metres behind his opponent for a start. I also disagree with the view he can't attack or set up the play, he has vastly improved in this area, particularly this year.
:thumbsup
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
I think you're wrong because of all the reasons you pointed out yourself in your post about his VFL performances and I see no reason to believe these things won't translate into the AFL Also he's not quite as slow as everyone makes out - put it this way, he's no slower than Kelvin Moore was and at the very least will be a better version of him IMO. He doesn't get caught trailing 10 metres behind his opponent for a start. I also disagree with the view he can't attack or set up the play, he has vastly improved in this area, particularly this year.
:thumbsup
Is this a passive aggressive "thumbs up" or a true validation of Diocletian's reply?
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Validation. I can't argue what he said but I just don't think he'll bring it to AFL level so I don't have a great argument :lol
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Why not come up with a rebuttal as to why I might be wrong instead of just mocking my opinion
I think you're wrong because of all the reasons you pointed out yourself in your post about his VFL performances and I see no reason to believe these things won't translate into the AFL Also he's not quite as slow as everyone makes out - put it this way, he's no slower than Kelvin Moore was and at the very least will be a better version of him IMO. He doesn't get caught trailing 10 metres behind his opponent for a start. I also disagree with the view he can't attack or set up the play, he has vastly improved in this area, particularly this year.
I like him...as he is very attacking and links up extremely well out of defence. I would suggest he is averaging around the 15 - 20 possession per game and hits targets. Would love to see him given a chance as he has improved every year he has been on the list. Being the best FB in the VFL in your 3rd year is showing progress.
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
na your wrong. its all about weather the negatives will allow a player to perform well at afl level. short and slow spells disaster for nearly all kpds at this level. third tall well hes going to play on the quicker talls going around.
we draft players based on their attributes. if i was looking for a kpd at junior level darrou wouldnt get a look in. doesnt tick the right boxes.
in saying that i too have said give him a try we have nothing to lose i just think like you he wont make it and i reckon i give damn good reasons. i dont get the angst with people.
hes a rookie been a rookie for 3 yrs not managed one game what the hell does that tell ya.he has serious flaws for the role people expect him to play, but if some one voices em your too negative.
being slow and short what tall fwd at afl level do you envisage him playing on. what outstanding attribute does he display that will compensate for the weaknesses. what role do you think he can play taking into account his weaknesses.
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“I love watching ‘Bender’ (Darrou) play down there,” Jake King told ‘Roar Vision’.
“He’s the most polite kid I’ve ever met, but on the field, he’s probably one of the nastiest kids you’ll ever come across.
“He fires up, and he’s been really good.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-18/big-bad-ben
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
na your wrong. its all about weather the negatives will allow a player to perform well at afl level. short and slow spells disaster for nearly all kpds at this level. third tall well hes going to play on the quicker talls going around.
we draft players based on their attributes. if i was looking for a kpd at junior level darrou wouldnt get a look in. doesnt tick the right boxes.
in saying that i too have said give him a try we have nothing to lose i just think like you he wont make it and i reckon i give damn good reasons. i dont get the angst with people.
hes a rookie been a rookie for 3 yrs not managed one game what the hell does that tell ya.he has serious flaws for the role people expect him to play, but if some one voices em your too negative.
being slow and short what tall fwd at afl level do you envisage him playing on. what outstanding attribute does he display that will compensate for the weaknesses. what role do you think he can play taking into account his weaknesses.
Sometimes out and out intense desire trumps every other attribute by a mile.
Look at Lenny Hayes for example. No real pace. Not great overhead. Not the greatest kick. Yet he was one of the most competitive beasts ever to put on a jumper in the AFL.
Through sheer will power he would get the ball and feed it out time and time again. He would push himself to the limit.
So being an intense competitor can be more important than having "attributes".
Ps. I'm not saying that having "attributes" isn't important as well. It's just not the be all and end all.
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Bravery leadership consistency composer influence etc.
Are mental attributes
Source: football manager
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
na your wrong. its all about weather the negatives will allow a player to perform well at afl level. short and slow spells disaster for nearly all kpds at this level. third tall well hes going to play on the quicker talls going around.
we draft players based on their attributes. if i was looking for a kpd at junior level darrou wouldnt get a look in. doesnt tick the right boxes.
in saying that i too have said give him a try we have nothing to lose i just think like you he wont make it and i reckon i give damn good reasons. i dont get the angst with people.
hes a rookie been a rookie for 3 yrs not managed one game what the hell does that tell ya.he has serious flaws for the role people expect him to play, but if some one voices em your too negative.
being slow and short what tall fwd at afl level do you envisage him playing on. what outstanding attribute does he display that will compensate for the weaknesses. what role do you think he can play taking into account his weaknesses.
Sadly for Ben, I believe claw will be shown to be right. Darrou won't make it as a key defender at AFL level. A in-betweener type that is not strong one-on-one in a contested marking duel for AFL level. He won't get a look in either at Richmond anytime soon with Rance, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes ahead of him.
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Gourdis?
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Gourdis?
Darrou is a different scenario to Gourdis. The Goo had the physical size but didn't make it because he couldn't kick a footy to save himself.
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If Kelvin Moore managed 87 AFL games then Darrou should play at least 150.
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Kelly Moore wouldn't get a game today.
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Moore > Chaplin. IMO
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Moore = Chaplin?
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Even with his injuries Moore was less slow and non agile
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Rance is still rubbish. Aye?
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reckon people are jumping up and down about the wrong thing here.
he doesnt have the right attributes to play afl thats pretty clear. another in betweener in many ways. severe lack of pace condemns a bloke of his height and the role he performs to the grave yard.
nope the thing we should be asking is why we gave this kid a third yr on our rookie list. why cant we identify severe weakness in players. cmon people just think of the attributes most players will have that darrou will be asked to play against at afl level.
reckon if he could build a tank and find a bit of ball he could make an inside midfielder at afl level thats probably his best chance but boy thats drawing a long bow.
Before you rant, I've said I don't think he'll make it. But I think you have a major issue of focusing on the negatives. All players have them. It's whether his positives out weigh his negatives and if his VFL form is anything to go by, they do and he can match it with the best forwards he's played on. He never seems to be monstered and usually wins out against some of the best VFL forwards and the only way to tell whether that can be improved to AFL is to give him a go. He has done everything right
na your wrong. its all about weather the negatives will allow a player to perform well at afl level. short and slow spells disaster for nearly all kpds at this level. third tall well hes going to play on the quicker talls going around.
we draft players based on their attributes. if i was looking for a kpd at junior level darrou wouldnt get a look in. doesnt tick the right boxes.
in saying that i too have said give him a try we have nothing to lose i just think like you he wont make it and i reckon i give damn good reasons. i dont get the angst with people.
hes a rookie been a rookie for 3 yrs not managed one game what the hell does that tell ya.he has serious flaws for the role people expect him to play, but if some one voices em your too negative.
being slow and short what tall fwd at afl level do you envisage him playing on. what outstanding attribute does he display that will compensate for the weaknesses. what role do you think he can play taking into account his weaknesses.
Sometimes out and out intense desire trumps every other attribute by a mile.
Look at Lenny Hayes for example. No real pace. Not great overhead. Not the greatest kick. Yet he was one of the most competitive beasts ever to put on a jumper in the AFL.
Through sheer will power he would get the ball and feed it out time and time again. He would push himself to the limit.
So being an intense competitor can be more important than having "attributes".
Ps. I'm not saying that having "attributes" isn't important as well. It's just not the be all and end all.
your right on rare occasions intesity aggression etc can off set physical deficiencies. morris and robinson come to mind.
lenny hayes had and still has every single attribute you want in an inside mid,
mate he may be slow but the role he does doesnt require great pace. hes not expected to keep up with players on the lead. his motor as a inside mid is far more important than his pace or supposed lack thereof.
hes a ball winner with a huge tank who wins so much ball its crazy and he uses it well either by hand or foot, he may not be a great kick but he has always hit targets which makes him a passable kick. and hes has always had footy smarts. hes a great size for the role he is expected to play. hes was and always has been a very talented player ffs he was a top 10 draft pick either pick 7 or 11 if i remember cant be bothered looking it up.he has very good attributes that more than offsets any weakness he has.
i will say again AS A KPD imo Ben Darrou has two glaring deficiencies that cannot be overcome for the role we want him to play. all the intensity and aggression in the world wont help in this.
look outside the square with him and try him in a role that would allow his strengths to come to the fore and offset what deficiencies he has,