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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Coach on February 09, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/128749/default.aspx
Jackson gets another gig in the Leadership group :banghead He should be under pressure to remain in the best 18 let alone be considered a leader. Geez Geez :banghead
TBR's man Jacky boy gets a gig too. ;D
Edit: added in 'leadership group announced' to thread title
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That is dissapointing davey
I would have thought the club would have looked a little harder for leadership options
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Captain: Chris Newman
Vice Captain: Trent Cotchin
Leaders: Brett Deledio, Daniel Jackson, Jack Riewoldt
Did we have more than 5 leaders last year? Kel?
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Captain: Chris Newman
Vice Captain: Trent Cotchin
Leaders: Brett Deledio, Daniel Jackson, Jack Riewoldt
Did we have more than 5 leaders last year? Kel?
Foley maybe?
and agreed Eatem.
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Foley maybe?
yes Foley was in the leadership group last year was actually co-vice captain with Cotch
Kel Moore hasn't been in the leadership group for a couple of seasons now
I understand the playing group & coaches determine the group but I have to say I am staggered to see Jackson's name remain. But I still think it sends a terrible message to young players and supporters in that on field ill discipline appears to be rewarded
Actually I think Daniel could have made a massive statement by saying "thanks guys but I beleive it's best I decline until I prove to everyone that I have the ill discipline brain explosions under control"
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Obviously playing ability has no bearing on leadership?
I like the guy and he seems clever but IMO he is not in our best 30 players at the club? Love for him to prove me wrong this year and have a blinder. Will be happy to be proved incorrect.
Is there room for him and Tucky in the 22 if we are to play finals?
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Judging by reports on how encouraging Kingy is, you could think he'd deserve it. You could argue his previous discipline problems, or not very high skill but those are both problems with Jackson
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It would be great for the coaches to come out and say what it actually is they see in Jackson. As soon as this was posted by the RFC on Facebook, even the general squibs were in uproar over this decision. So it's not like it's just a little anti-Jackson cult that exists on a couple internerd forums. Surely the club must be aware of this.
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Not a good decision.
...And an indication the guy will be in our starting 22 for the year :banghead
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Obviously playing ability has no bearing on leadership?
This.
Whacko Jacko is heavily involved in the AFLPA and does plenty of fine work behind the scenes.
This won't change anything, he'll still have to win his spot in the 22.
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Would have had Rance instead of Jackson
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stuff off Jackson you ginger idiot.
No-one likes you or rates you so just retire.
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stuff off Jackson you ginger idiot.
No-one likes you or rates you so just retire.
Damien Hardwick likes and rates him. :shh
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
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Bit of a joke, how can young up and coming talented players take leadership seriously from a player who shouldnt be best 22. On field leaders need to set examples on field and very limited playing ability aside, Jackos leadership on field has been a disgrace.
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Would have had Rance instead of Jackson
Now thats actually a good idea Danog :thumbsup maybe next year?
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Calling people 'knobs' is a great way to argue your point. Well done. No, really, well done :thumbsup
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We need to start up a collection to sponsor the round 1 banner.
The message will be:-
P I S S OFF DANIEL
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Not havin a dig at ya MT...
Point taken, i hope he does have good years ahead of him
Thats not my issue with him being in the leadership group, its the brain fades and stupidity on field that undoes his good...
Let me put it this way, as an example: a player like Jake King shows great leadership on/off field and appears to be a great mentoring type yet he isnt probably considered because of his suspensions or roughness?. If you were to compare the two for suspensions: king is always that lil bit effort too much and is penalised and when you think jacko's doing ok, Bang out of nowhere he does something dumb. And then is rewarded by being selected straight after his suspension ends.
IMO that send the wrong message to the other younger players
Other possibilities could have been vicks or rance or axl?
Maybe this shows we really dont have enough leaders... or at least not yet anyway
I am dissapointed but i can accept it and be wait to be proven wrong. ;)
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Calling people 'knobs' is a great way to argue your point. Well done. No, really, well done :thumbsup
:clapping :birthday
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Nick Maxwells is a dud who puts his foot in his mouth, sniper and basically cant play - hes the capt and it isnt affecting collingwood.
Maybe that is the blueprint, come to think of it hes like a flaming version of that peanut. Theyve even got the same whiffer
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We need to start up a collection to sponsor the round 1 banner.
The message will be:-
P I S S OFF DANIEL
poor form
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We need to start up a collection to sponsor the round 1 banner.
The message will be:-
P I S S OFF DANIEL
:clapping
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We need to start up a collection to sponsor the round 1 banner.
The message will be:-
P I S S OFF DANIEL
poor form
Yep we should include those words too.
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We need to start up a collection to sponsor the round 1 banner.
The message will be:-
P I S S OFF DANIEL
poor form
Agree. I'm not a huge fan of Jackson's football but that is ordinary.
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Point taken, i hope he does have good years ahead of him
Thats not my issue with him being in the leadership group, its the brain fades and stupidity on field that undoes his good...
Let me put it this way, as an example: a player like Jake King shows great leadership on/off field and appears to be a great mentoring type yet he isnt probably considered because of his suspensions or roughness?. If you were to compare the two for suspensions: king is always that lil bit effort too much and is penalised and when you think jacko's doing ok, Bang out of nowhere he does something dumb. And then is rewarded by being selected straight after his suspension ends.
IMO that send the wrong message to the other younger players
Other possibilities could have been vicks or rance or axl?
Maybe this shows we really dont have enough leaders... or at least not yet anyway
I am dissapointed but i can accept it and be wait to be proven wrong. ;)
Agree with this :thumbsup
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Nick Maxwells is a dud who puts his foot in his mouth, sniper and basically cant play - hes the capt and it isnt affecting collingwood.
Maybe that is the blueprint, come to think of it hes like a flaming version of that peanut. Theyve even got the same whiffer
Good point. You do need one of these types. I'm an estranged fan of DJ, I thought he showed a lot in his first 10 games, he looked more than capable, but somewhere, something went wrong. But now that he has a 2 year contact I'll get behind him again, I would actually like to see him continue his thuggery, but he needs to do it in a much more measured way. For an 'intellectual' footballer, he needs to think his way around the rules a lot better if he wants to continue to play the mugs role.
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Obviously playing ability has no bearing on leadership?
I like the guy and he seems clever but IMO he is not in our best 30 players at the club? Love for him to prove me wrong this year and have a blinder. Will be happy to be proved incorrect.
Is there room for him and Tucky in the 22 if we are to play finals?
strange move I can only think theres' plenty we dont see from behind the scenes that Jacko adds to the group. TBH it was undisciplined acts onfield that were there to see in last R that broke the camels abck for me ...I hope he proves us wrong and rebounds to career best form , but the game looked to have wooshed past him to me
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I like Jackson.
I like his toughness I like that he's goes in head first and stands up for his mates.
Richmond used to be the most feared club in the VFL.
Now they are the laughing stock of the AFL.
Until we have someone with his toughness that also has skill add to that maturity & games under their belt, then why not Have Jacko as a leader?
Who would you all rather,... Browne? Now he's a joke.
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strange move I can only think theres' plenty we dont see from behind the scenes that Jacko adds to the group. TBH it was undisciplined acts onfield that were there to see in last R that broke the camels abck for me ...I hope he proves us wrong and rebounds to career best form , but the game looked to have wooshed past him to me
I thought this was a bad decision until I read Bojangles response. If he is doubtful I now consider this to be the worst decision in the history of the RFC.
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I like Jackson.
I like his toughness I like that he's goes in head first and stands up for his mates.
Richmond used to be the most feared club in the VFL.
Now they are the laughing stock of the AFL.
Until we have someone with his toughness that also has skill add to that maturity & games under their belt, then why not Have Jacko as a leader?
Who would you all rather,... Browne? Now he's a joke.
No need to pot shot the VLC. Now there's a rednut who has a fair dinkum crack even if he battles. Decent bloke as well
Who would we rather? Rance, Foley, Vickery etc would all be decent options.
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I like Jackson.
I like his toughness I like that he's goes in head first and stands up for his mates.
I don't think the issue is his standing up for his mates, flying the flag or his perceived "toughness" - every team needs a few mongrels
Daniel's problem has been/is his chanelling his so called toughness into stupid acts of ill discipline on the field that have to lead to suspensions and incidents that have cost us goals at crucial times during games :banghead (arguement could be made they've cost us games). In the last 2 seasons this hasn't happened a couple of times it has been a regular theme in his game.
TBBH for an appointed leader it is totally unacceptable. Seriously, for a bloke who is supposedly so smart on the footy field over the last 2 season he has been stupid & selfish.
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Good choices i would think.. Jackson is very much underated on interNERD forums but let me assure you he has a lot of respect at the club and in AFL in general.
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Dan Jackson at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Wru7kJxZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhC3DRwQxg
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Happy to see Jackson in the leadership group .... Coburg need on/off-field guidance as well.
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God you lot.....amazing and you have a go at me for bagging Edwards, although I haven't for a while :thumbsup
Now get the stuff off Jacksons back, most of you have done nothing but criticise him most of last year and continually.
Obviously the players and staff support him so get on board with him, get off his back. Most of you have turned this thread into a, I hate Jackson thread....again.
At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
Well done to all in the group...
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Which playing you referring to, WAT? Riewoldt? or are you having a dig at Deledio because he hasn't signed yet? I believe it took Jackson a while to sign late last year. Think he wanted more money :santa
I have plenty of respect for the way Jackson attacks the footy. Got respect for him sticking up for his teammates too. I'll use a quote from WilburPowell to describe my thoughts: "Daniel's problem has been/is his chanelling his so called toughness into stupid acts of ill discipline on the field that have to lead to suspensions and incidents that have cost us goals at crucial times during games :banghead (arguement could be made they've cost us games). In the last 2 seasons this hasn't happened a couple of times it has been a regular theme in his game."
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
You are kidding, Lids has earnt his stripes with 2 B&F's, life membership and the right to leverage a pay day deal.
He has committed to the Tige's for 2012 and that qualifies him for the L group,
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
You are kidding, Lids has earnt his stripes with 2 B&F's, life membership and the right to leverage a pay day deal.
He has committed to the Tige's for 2012 and that qualifies him for the L group,
Crap, why the hell would you put someone in a leadership group when committment is part of being a leader....not just commitment for this year either.
He earnt his stripes in teams where a one legged player would of........Not Riewoldt by the way.
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Crap,
Utter ... and your comment is of full of it.
It is akin to saying Hardwick is not committed because he does not have on 2013 contract.
Codswallop
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Crap,
your comment is of full of it.
Agree yours certainly is. Hardwick would sign tomorrow if offered the role, Deledeo has said he is waiting for the end of the year......real commitment from supposed leader of the group.
Anyway let's see how the year prevails.
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
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Jackson is very much underated on interNERD forums but let me assure you he has a lot of respect at the club and in AFL in general.
Most form their opinions on what they see on field and in recent times Jacko has struggled on that front. They are not baseless opinions and fair enough IMO.
The club however has a better understanding of what Dan does behind the scenes which is obviously significant for him to be bestowed with leadership honours.
He has been re-signed so Tigers supporters should get behind him I reckon and hope he gets it together on field to compliment what he does off it.
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Jackson is a dumb footballer with average skills
I believe that part of the reason that deledio is holding off is because of the uncertainty about the interpretation of the free agency rules.
Why is WAT allowed to think no excuses but deledio is not?
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Good choices i would think.. Jackson is very much underated on interNERD forums but let me assure you he has a lot of respect at the club and in AFL in general.
Good Choice - LOL ... and then you say he is underated on interNERD forums. The people who you claim to be internetNerds have put in money and kept the club operating and the administrators who have given us NO SUCCESS for 30 years in highly paid employment and away from the Centrelink queues. The same people who you lambast are the same people who put up their hard earned for Jack Dyer Foundations, Fighting Funds, Save our Skins Campaigns and all the rest.
I dont give a stuff who Jackson has the respect of at the club because the club is full of hangers on who have delivered squat for 30 years. When they deliver then that'll be when we can take seriously their thoughts about whose respected and who is not respected at the club. ;D
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Calling people 'knobs' is a great way to argue your point. Well done. No, really, well done :thumbsup
But you guys are a pack of whingeing knobs who don't come close to afl level and you're bagging jacko who is nowhere near as bad as you make him out to be :thumbsup
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Calling people 'knobs' is a great way to argue your point. Well done. No, really, well done :thumbsup
But you guys are a pack of whingeing knobs who don't come close to afl level and you're bagging jacko who is nowhere near as bad as you make him out to be :thumbsup
And remember that you never played football after you left school, so there are some of us on here who have played at a decent standard @ SENIOR level. Everyone is entilted to an opinion whether they played or not but if you wanna play that card then STFU because others here have achieved more in the game than you ever have/will.
"I used to dob goals from 50 but then I decided to go watch the Tigers instead" LMFAO :lol You're a joke, guy
Regards,
Coach
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Coach Davey? What's the go? :You bag and insult William Powell for being negative about 'Telstra' (who wouldn't be?), then start an incredible negative and childish rant about Dan Jackson being selected in the leadership group!!!! Hypocrisy at it's finest.
And William Powell was commenting on a third party, whereas you are attacking the Tigers at the core. Methinks YOU are the one we don't need at Tigerland! :shh
Im surprised and disappointed at the reaction to the leadership group, in particular Daniel Jackson. Surely the club should be supported and have made the decision based on merit. No one here would be silly enough to suggest Dan will get a game if he is not in our best 22, that is some what insulting to the coach and club, isn't it? Really looking forward to the season. Go Tigers.
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LMAO, you need to know when the Coach is on the wind up, guy. Willy knows the Coach was stirring. Can you show me my rant as well?
"Jackson gets another gig in the Leadership group.He should be under pressure to remain in the best 18 let alone be considered a leader." Wow what a rant man :lol Negative and childish :shh and holy poo try to hide who you are better this time.
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your a little boy who dribbles mate. what am i trying to hide you clown? oh, and lol what 'decent senior footy' did you play? LOL
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your a little boy who dribbles mate. what am i trying to hide you clown? oh, and lol what 'decent senior footy' did you play? LOL
:lol
TFL & SFL in Tassie if you must know. Obviously not as high a level that you have played at but a decent enough level to shut up MadTiger ;D Try to get a kick this year, Bruiser.
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
:lol WAT just got owned
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WAT,
You may want to read the following article on The Age.
I'll highlight one para.
By the letter of the law, Deledio and Cloke have no incentive for re-signing until the season is over, even if they want to stay - a scenario that invites unseemly, potentially destabilising speculation. If they re-signed mid-season - as Richmond and Collingwood would prefer - then it could be argued, on a literal interpretation, that they can't be unrestricted, go-anywhere free agents once that contract expires.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-freedom-yet-for-loyal-tiger-deledio-20120128-1qn9t.html#ixzz1lwCrVPcD
It would appear that the FA rules weren't framed so well. But let's blame Lids.
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WAT,
You may want to read the following article on The Age.
I'll highlight one para.
By the letter of the law, Deledio and Cloke have no incentive for re-signing until the season is over, even if they want to stay - a scenario that invites unseemly, potentially destabilising speculation. If they re-signed mid-season - as Richmond and Collingwood would prefer - then it could be argued, on a literal interpretation, that they can't be unrestricted, go-anywhere free agents once that contract expires.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-freedom-yet-for-loyal-tiger-deledio-20120128-1qn9t.html#ixzz1lwCrVPcD
It would appear that the FA rules weren't framed so well. But let's blame Lids.
Thanks HKTiger,
There's a lot of uncertainty about the FA rules right at the minute - blame the AFL & AFLPA
But you are right let's blame Lids ;D
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Wow, so much hate. :angel:
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
Bit of twisting don't you think? Delideo is holding off apparently because he wants to play finals no matter where he plays, that doesn't show commitment to a team. Not the fact it's his last year of contract.
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Bit of twisting don't you think? Delideo is holding off apparently because he wants to play finals no matter where he plays, that doesn't show commitment to a team. Not the fact it's his last year of contract.
Twisting is it really? I don't think so, just trying to understand the "rules" that are being applied
So in 2011 when other players in the last year of their contracts held out signing a new deal until after the season while they squabbled over $$$ they were comitted and showing commitment to the team and had the right to be in the leadership group? But Lids isn't and doesn't?
The same rules must apply to all players I would have thought but strangley when it comes to Brett Deledio the rules seem very selective indeed
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Bit of twisting don't you think? Delideo is holding off apparently because he wants to play finals no matter where he plays, that doesn't show commitment to a team. Not the fact it's his last year of contract.
Twisting is it really? I don't think so, just trying to understand the "rules" that are being applied
So in 2011 when other players in the last year of their contracts held out signing a new deal until after the season while they squabbled over $$$ they were comitted and showing commitment to the team and had the right to be in the leadership group? But Lids isn't and doesn't?
The same rules must apply to all players I would have thought but strangley when it comes to Brett Deledio the rules seem very selective indeed
Who knows maybe he thought the same last year.
BTW I'm all for Delideo in the group :thumbsup
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Calling people 'knobs' is a great way to argue your point. Well done. No, really, well done :thumbsup
But you guys are a pack of whingeing knobs who don't come close to afl level and you're bagging jacko who is nowhere near as bad as you make him out to be :thumbsup
And remember that you never played football after you left school, so there are some of us on here who have played at a decent standard @ SENIOR level. Everyone is entilted to an opinion whether they played or not but if you wanna play that card then STFU because others here have achieved more in the game than you ever have/will.
"I used to dob goals from 50 but then I decided to go watch the Tigers instead" LMFAO :lol You're a joke, guy
Regards,
Coach
I could play the game, just because i couldnt be stuffed playing after year 12 means stuff all :thumbsup
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clubs were knocking the door down to sign the mad one after year 12 but he couldn't hear them over his Yes records 8)
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Get over it knobs. The club knows what they're doing. Jacko has a good 5 years ahead of him :thumbsup
Well 5 years perhaps - whether or not they are good....................
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I honestly could have captained Richmond to three flags in a row. Just because I couldn't be stuffed means stuff all.
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Look at all the trouble Jackson has caused now.
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
Do you really think the scenario is the same as NEWMAN AND JACKSON, give me a break.
You know exactly what my comments meant, twist them anyway you want but at this point in time and with free agency in it's first year don't act like all cases are the same.
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Actually in all honesty, committ to the club Lids or stuff off, like it or lump it all you righteous people, that's the way I feel.
I couldn't give a drap how free agency works, if it's his last year of his contract, if the sun isn't in the right spot he won't sign etc...etc...
His choice, loyalty or not!!!!
Until that choice is made take him out of the leadership group...........oh sorry did I say that out aloud :gobdrop....come and get me.... ;D
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I'm a bit supporter of you WAT but you have got the wobbles up here mate.
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I'm a bit supporter of you WAT but you have got the wobbles up here mate.
All good, just having my opinion.... ;)
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
I will have my say, I am entitled to that aren't I??
Just because most of you are like sheep doesn't mean I have to be.... :thumbsup
I keep getting told that football these days is like a business......ok, what major business, or any business for that matter, would put someone in a leadership role if they knew they had groomed that person from day one to be a future part of their success. But there was a very good chance they would leave at the end of the year.
Not many businesses that I know of.
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
I will have my say, I am entitled to that aren't I??
Just because most of you are like sheep doesn't mean I have to be.... :thumbsup
I keep getting told that football these days is like a business......ok, what major business, or any business for that matter, would put someone in a leadership role if they knew they had groomed that person from day one to be a future part of their success. But there was a very good chance they would leave at the end of the year.
Not many businesses that I know of.
Everyones entitled to their opinion, its just that you tend to take up a shitload more bandwidth trying to get yours across. We heard u the first time, you got OCD?
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
I will have my say, I am entitled to that aren't I??
Just because most of you are like sheep doesn't mean I have to be.... :thumbsup
I keep getting told that football these days is like a business......ok, what major business, or any business for that matter, would put someone in a leadership role if they knew they had groomed that person from day one to be a future part of their success. But there was a very good chance they would leave at the end of the year.
Not many businesses that I know of.
Everyones entitled to their opinion, its just that you tend to take up a pooload more bandwidth trying to get yours across. We heard u the first time, you got OCD?
I have to keep repeating myself to the thousands of posters that keep quoting my responses, that's why I keep repeating myself .........
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
Do you really think the scenario is the same as NEWMAN AND JACKSON, give me a break.
You know exactly what my comments meant, twist them anyway you want but at this point in time and with free agency in it's first year don't act like all cases are the same.
Not twisting a thing, you wrote what you wrote the only person twisting things is you.
You seem to have decided that there is one set of rules for Brett Deledio and another set of rules for every other player on the list
Just trying undestand why your rules for Deledio are so different to the rules for everyone else because that's what you are saying have been saying for weeks now
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
I will have my say, I am entitled to that aren't I??
Just because most of you are like sheep doesn't mean I have to be.... :thumbsup
I keep getting told that football these days is like a business......ok, what major business, or any business for that matter, would put someone in a leadership role if they knew they had groomed that person from day one to be a future part of their success. But there was a very good chance they would leave at the end of the year.
Not many businesses that I know of.
Everyones entitled to their opinion, its just that you tend to take up a pooload more bandwidth trying to get yours across. We heard u the first time, you got OCD?
I have to keep repeating myself to the thousands of posters that keep quoting my responses, that's why I keep repeating myself .........
Ur an easy windup twit, sometimes I almost feel sorry for ya..... then I read another one of your posts and get over it :lol
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WAT is the Derryn Hinch of OER. "i wont be silenced, i wont be stopped"
I will have my say, I am entitled to that aren't I??
Just because most of you are like sheep doesn't mean I have to be.... :thumbsup
I keep getting told that football these days is like a business......ok, what major business, or any business for that matter, would put someone in a leadership role if they knew they had groomed that person from day one to be a future part of their success. But there was a very good chance they would leave at the end of the year.
Not many businesses that I know of.
Everyones entitled to their opinion, its just that you tend to take up a pooload more bandwidth trying to get yours across. We heard u the first time, you got OCD?
I have to keep repeating myself to the thousands of posters that keep quoting my responses, that's why I keep repeating myself .........
Ur an easy windup twit, sometimes I almost feel sorry for ya..... then I read another one of your posts and get over it :lol
:sleep :sleep
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At least Jackson has committed to the team....unlike another player in the leadership group.
So let me get this straight based on your logic if you are in the final year of a year contract you are not committed to the team so therefore should not be in the leadership group. Now I am assuming you apply this rule/logic to all players? Or is it selective?
But based on your criteria in 2011 the following players shouldn't have been in the leadership: NEWMAN, JACKSON,
Is that correct or does your rules only apply to Deledio in 2012?
Are you also saying that every player on the list who is in the final year of a contract or only on one year contracts are not committed to the club or again is it only applied to selective players?
Do you really think the scenario is the same as NEWMAN AND JACKSON, give me a break.
You know exactly what my comments meant, twist them anyway you want but at this point in time and with free agency in it's first year don't act like all cases are the same.
Not twisting a thing, you wrote what you wrote the only person twisting things is you.
You seem to have decided that there is one set of rules for Brett Deledio and another set of rules for every other player on the list
Just trying undestand why your rules for Deledio are so different to the rules for everyone else because that's what you are saying have been saying for weeks now
Not at all, Newman and Jackson were never and will never go anywhere unless the club decides so, can you say the same about Deledio?
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This is all Jackson's fault. If the Ginger Snap could play football we'd all be on the same page.
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This is all Jackson's fault. If the Ginger Snap could play football we'd all be on the same page.
So true, so very true.
He is destroying this club.
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This is all Jackson's fault. If the Ginger Snap could play football we'd all be on the same page.
So true, so very true.
He is destroying this club.
FFS sake even TBR can see it :banghead
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This is all Jackson's fault. If the Ginger Snap could play football we'd all be on the same page.
So true, so very true.
He is destroying this club.
FFS sake even TBR can see it :banghead
Whoa!
Hang on there.
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The way some people in here bag some players I'd want to snap them out at a game if they acted like that there. It's over exaggerated criticism against players they should be supporting at the footy
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Sorry, hadn't realised there was a game going on in here.
What's the score?
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MadTiger won the Army courage award in year 12 footy for pulling an old towel out of a communal shower drain. So don't mess with him folks.
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Good choices i would think.. Jackson is very much underated on interNERD forums but let me assure you he has a lot of respect at the club and in AFL in general.
Good Choice - LOL ... and then you say he is underated on interNERD forums. The people who you claim to be internetNerds have put in money and kept the club operating and the administrators who have given us NO SUCCESS for 30 years in highly paid employment and away from the Centrelink queues. The same people who you lambast are the same people who put up their hard earned for Jack Dyer Foundations, Fighting Funds, Save our Skins Campaigns and all the rest.
I dont give a stuff who Jackson has the respect of at the club because the club is full of hangers on who have delivered squat for 30 years. When they deliver then that'll be when we can take seriously their thoughts about whose respected and who is not respected at the club. ;D
Please dont think you're more important than the rest of us that have also put their money into the club who do respect Jackson.. Sounds a little narcissistic for you to say that.
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Whatever you guys have done to break MT, keep it up. I much prefer vindictive MT.
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Good choices i would think.. Jackson is very much underated on interNERD forums but let me assure you he has a lot of respect at the club and in AFL in general.
Good Choice - LOL ... and then you say he is underated on interNERD forums. The people who you claim to be internetNerds have put in money and kept the club operating and the administrators who have given us NO SUCCESS for 30 years in highly paid employment and away from the Centrelink queues. The same people who you lambast are the same people who put up their hard earned for Jack Dyer Foundations, Fighting Funds, Save our Skins Campaigns and all the rest.
I dont give a stuff who Jackson has the respect of at the club because the club is full of hangers on who have delivered squat for 30 years. When they deliver then that'll be when we can take seriously their thoughts about whose respected and who is not respected at the club. ;D
Please dont think you're more important than the rest of us that have also put their money into the club who do respect Jackson.. Sounds a little narcissistic for you to say that.
Your answer is that of another club apologist who couldnt come up with a proper response so you made one up all of your own making. I never said in any post anywhere ever that I am more important, your post points you as nothing more than a second rate troll. ;D
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Not at all, Newman and Jackson were never and will never go anywhere unless the club decides so, can you say the same about Deledio?
Can you?
Would think you cant so your argument again doesn't hold, so the questioin remains the same why the differnet rules?
And BTW in your mind is a player haggling over more money showing totally commitment to the team during the course of a seasn, is it not a distraction?
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Not at all, Newman and Jackson were never and will never go anywhere unless the club decides so, can you say the same about Deledio?
Can you?
Would think you cant so your argument again doesn't hold, so the questioin remains the same why the differnet rules?
And BTW in your mind is a player haggling over more money showing totally commitment to the team during the course of a seasn, is it not a distraction?
Of course my argument doesn't hold WP, you are always right, and the question you keep repeating is to do with different times.......what don't you get about the fact that it's the first year of free bargaining?
And only in my uneducated football brain, from what I have observed by other players not signing it DOES affect the club.....
Why did Bomber Thompson say Ablett not signing affected their year and the GF......perhaps you know more than him too...
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One direction for Tigers
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 21 Aug, 2012
Richmond’s star spearhead, Jack Riewoldt, is convinced the Club’s playing leadership group, of which he is a member, will provide the necessary impetus to guide the Tigers on the path to sustained success.
“This leadership group that we’ve developed here, under definitely the best captain I’ve had since I’ve been at the footy club, is a very strong one and one that’s very diverse as well,” Riewoldt said.
“Look, 90% of leadership’s just playing your role on the weekend.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/145256/default.aspx
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“This leadership group that we’ve developed here, under definitely the best captain I’ve had since I’ve been at the footy club, is a very strong one and one that’s very diverse as well,” Riewoldt said.
You've had two captains you absolute moron.
“Look, 90% of leadership’s just playing your role on the weekend"
No, it's not. Leadership is Trent Cotchin. That prick probably has a broken back from carrying sooks like you on it all year
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“This leadership group that we’ve developed here, under definitely the best captain I’ve had since I’ve been at the footy club, is a very strong one and one that’s very diverse as well,” Riewoldt said.
You've had two captains you absolute moron.
“Look, 90% of leadership’s just playing your role on the weekend"
No, it's not. Leadership is Trent Cotchin. That prick probably has a broken back from carrying sooks like you on it all year
Harsh CD, whoa there partner.
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“This leadership group that we’ve developed here, under definitely the best captain I’ve had since I’ve been at the footy club, is a very strong one and one that’s very diverse as well,” Riewoldt said.
You've had two captains you absolute moron.
“Look, 90% of leadership’s just playing your role on the weekend"
No, it's not. Leadership is Trent Cotchin. That prick probably has a broken back from carrying sooks like you on it all year
Harsh CD, whoa there partner.
Hey whoa, if Jack had hands like a steel trap then I wouldn't be saying all this, partner.
:shh
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Leardership is about action not talk.
Jack talking is like an action - one big movement
Kick more goals and talk less Jack
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“This leadership group that we’ve developed here, under definitely the best captain I’ve had since I’ve been at the footy club, is a very strong one and one that’s very diverse as well,” Riewoldt said.
You've had two captains you absolute moron.
“Look, 90% of leadership’s just playing your role on the weekend"
No, it's not. Leadership is Trent Cotchin. That prick probably has a broken back from carrying sooks like you on it all year
Harsh CD, whoa there partner.
Hey whoa, if Jack had hands like a steel trap then I wouldn't be saying all this, partner.
:shh
Hey Dr Sheesh, the kid has been in he top 2 goal kickers 3 years running now! Sheesh , what more do you want him to do???
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what more do you want him to do???
be more like Shulzy boy.
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Davey is a stuffing whining nuffer. Sooks more than jack and needs to pull his head in.
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what more do you want him to do???
be more like Shulzy boy.
We could all take a leaf out of that guys book. Great man.
Riewoldt is a pussy. Junk time Jack
:fishing
:lol
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Rance needs to punch the stuff out of Jack at training,the ugly,arrogant,ignorant,lazy,brooding son of a bitch,
He makes me sick
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Rance needs to punch the stuff out of Jack at training,the ugly,arrogant,ignorant,lazy,brooding son of a bitch,
He makes me sick
l would pay money to watch Rance smack him into line :thumbsup
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LMAO at the nuffers that think he's "out of line" :lol
Edited: you cannot make an accusation about someone without proof even in jest, in this case blantantly untrue
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yeah agree Gerks not going to get a father son selection out of that 1
Its a shame really because he is a gun