One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 03, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
-
AFL Round 11 - Richmond v Fremantle @ the M.C.G.
Date: Saturday June 9, 2012
Start time: 1.40pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 10.15am
MCC members: 10.15am
It'll be interesting what crowd we get this week now that the bandwagon is getting into full swing. No doubt it'll be 99% Tiger supporters.
-
I predict that there will be docker blood all over the MCG next Saturday.Can't wait for the massacre.
-
You might find that we get a classic Ross Lyon display of trying to completely strangle this game..Hope we blow them appart on the wide MCG
-
You might find that we get a classic Ross Lyon display of trying to completely strangle this game..Hope we blow them appart on the wide MCG
Yep I get that feeling too although I think Freo are too undisciplined and don't have the class and patience St Kilda have when executing this type of game. Nevertheless I view this as a danger game and one we need to be mentally prepared for otherwise we may end up making things difficult for ourselves.
Just two weeks to go till the bye Tigers and a well deserved mental and physical rest.
-
Another must win game this one, then that leads us into a relatively easy should win game before the bye, should be in the 8 then.
Can't get caught up in a shut down game, we must play like we did against the Saints and Hawks. If they try to shut us down or lock the game down and they can't, we will smash them by 10 plus goals!
-
Another must win game this one, then that leads us into a relatively easy should win game before the bye,
Deja vu 2011 anyone? :help
-
Another must win game this one, then that leads us into a relatively easy should win game before the bye,
Deja vu 2011 anyone? :help
NO.....the players have a completely different mind set this year and I am watching GC play the Pies at the moment. If we can't or don't beat this rabble.....HELP!
-
no games are easy, switch off 1% and u r beaten, look at wce and essendon
-
Big Griff kicking out will make them spread their zones and open them up hopefully :)
-
I think we can win this easily by 10 goals, however we can just as easily lose this by 5-6 goals... it comes down to respecting your opponent
Its something that i mentioned around the start of the season, and the boys have done that in each game.. :thumbsup
I just hope they continue to do that despite the opposition this week and next
Respect em, play on our terms and we will beat em... :gotigers
-
FREE TICKETS FOR KIDS vs FREMANTLE
SATURDAY JUNE 9
Please register below for your free junior ticket to Richmond v Fremantle at the MCG!
Your junior admission ticket can be collected from the Australian Power & Gas 'Power Dome' positioned at the ME Bank Centre, Punt Road Oval from 11:00am until the start of the game, 1.40pm on Saturday June 9th. The ticket will be held in an envelope under the child's name.
http://membership.richmondfc.com.au/forkidsvsfremantle.html
-
Agree a must win game.Can't underestimate them. Lyon has a good coaching record against us. Must stamp our authority from early on in the game
-
MCG website says they are expecting a crowd of 40k...
-------------------------------------------------------
Event: AFL Round 11
Teams: Richmond v Fremantle
Date: Saturday June 9, 2012
Start time: 1.40pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 10.15am
MCC members: 10.15am
*Please note earlier gate opening time for Foxtel Cup curtain-raiser match between Werribee and West Perth commencing at 10.35am.
General admission areas:
Ponsford Stand:
M28 - M36
Q29 - Q36
Olympic Stand:
Q49 - Q57
Great Southern Stand:
M1 - M5
P1 - P8
Q1 - half of Q15
*Please note these areas are subject to change without notice.
Cheer squad locations:
Richmond - M3 and M4, rows A-K
Fremantle - M33, rows A-S
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 7.00am
Gate 5: 9.00am
Gate 6: 10.00am
Gate 7: 8.00am (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)
Expected attendance: 40,000
Tickets:
Public: Public tickets on sale through Ticketek.
MCC Members: Visitor tickets and reserved seats are no on sale through Ticketek.
AFL members: Tickets on sale through Ticketek.
TAB outlets: Open from 10.15am
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=495254b0-cb37-4ccd-a2e7-70eef4a43cf5
-
Would be dissapointing to only get 40,000 to the ground really...
-
It would be good to show the strength of the Tiger Army at this game. 50,000 people would be a good result.
-
We are overwhelming favourites this week with the bookies ...
Richmond $1.20
Fremantle $4.40
Source: TAB Sportsbet
-
AFL website is tipping us by 21 points :thumbsup ....
Preview: Richmond v Fremantle
By Paul Daffey and Nathan Schmook
Tue 05 Jun, 2012
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Saturday, June 9, 1.40pm
LAST TIME: Richmond 23.10 (148) d Fremantle 14.15 (99), round seven, 2011 at the MCG
Richmond has come off its horror draw over the first 10 rounds and now settles in for an easier draw through the middle of the season. After defeating highly-rated opponents Hawthorn and St Kilda in the past two matches, the Tigers should be too good for Fremantle, or so the theory goes. Fremantle has lost its past three matches in unimpressive fashion. But as round 10 should tell you, recent results are not always the best guide.
THE FOUR POINTS
RICHMOND
1. Jack Riewoldt has had an oscillating season, kicking four goals in the opening round before going through a trough and then kicking 14 goals in the past two games — six against Hawthorn and eight against St Kilda. Can he maintain the upward trend? Coach Damien Hardwick stated consistently during Riewoldt's lean patch that if he continued to work on his defensive pressure the goals would follow. The past fortnight suggests he was right.
2. Richmond has dominated against Fremantle at the MCG, winning seven of their past eight games there. Fremantle's only victory during that sequence has been in round 12, 2004. In fact, Fremantle has lost its past 10 matches at the MCG. Its last win there was in round four, 2007, against Melbourne.
3. Part of Richmond's giant-killing run of recent weeks can be attributed to lesser lights like Steven Morris, Shane Edwards and Daniel Jackson. Morris has been especially impressive, curtailing Hawthorn's Cyril Rioli and St Kilda's Stephen Milne while picking up his share of disposals. Edwards has played well in tagging roles at half-forward while Jackson gives his all every week. Richmond began the season believing its depth was poor, but it's getting harder to maintain that view.
4. Fremantle's lockdown style appears to hold few fears for Richmond given the Tigers' proficiency by foot. Under Hardwick, the Tigers have become the team that holds the ball the most while looking for the right option. They lead the competition for disposals. They look extremely capable of picking apart defensive presses with precision by hand and foot. Fremantle will provide a good test in this area.
FREMANTLE
1. Labelled "ugly" after its six-goal effort against West Coast, Fremantle was anything but ugly against Adelaide one week later. Ross Lyon's men ran hard for each other against the Crows, racking up more handball receives and uncontested possessions than their opponents. They looked dangerous and played with more creativity, and Lyon was positive post-match, despite the 29-point margin.
2. While Fremantle improved on the outside, it was beaten comprehensively at the stoppages, losing the clearances (in this case 53-30) for the fifth straight week. Ruckman Aaron Sandilands will be competing against in-form Tiger Ivan Maric, who has given ground-level midfielders Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Nathan Foley and Shane Tuck first use. Sandilands had 49 hit-outs against the Crows, but Freo can't seem to turn that into a clearance edge.
3. Can Fremantle play four quarters of sustained quality against the Tigers and avoid conceding a run of goals? West Coast broke open the round-nine derby with an unanswered run of eight goals either side of three-quarter time, while Adelaide kicked the last five goals of the match last Saturday after falling three points behind.
4. Run-with specialist Ryan Crowley is in form and who he tags will be important. But perhaps of more significance will be how Fremantle handles those midfielders who aren't under Crowley's watch. Last week he targeted Scott Thompson (17 disposals) and Rory Sloane and Patrick Dangerfield ran amok. Against West Coast, Daniel Kerr was held to 12 disposals, but Matt Rosa had a career-high 43. Fremantle's other midfielders need to support Crowley and start damaging the opposition when they have the ball.
AFL.com.au prediction: Richmond by 21 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/137852/default.aspx
-
Crowley is an effing piece of scat
-
Is Hill out injured?
-
From Richmond_FC twitter:
"MCC have decided to pre-sell General Admission tickets to this Saturday’s game. You can pre-purchase tickets now"
http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM1112
-
Is Hill out injured?
don't think so.
-
Is Hill out injured?
He's not listed as injured on the Freo website but he appeared to hurt an AC joint during the third quarter against Adelaide although he played out the game.
-
for me this is one game that is a must sheesh i hate those purple nuff nuffs.hate em almost as much as carlton and collingwood.
no we should win based on form but have a bad feeling about this game.
-
Crowley is an effing piece of scat
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060626135843/uncyclopedia/images/a/a7/Scatman.jpg)
-
^^^ Roger Hayden's old man?
Dimma said he reckons the Giant Freak and Pav are the key :sleep ;D
-
Do most here think crowley will go to cotch?
-
Richmond’s biggest-ever crowd against Fremantle is 38,010 in Round 5, 2010 at Subiaco.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/138001/default.aspx
Another record that will hopefully be broken on Saturday :thumbsup
-
Do most here think crowley will go to cotch?
Yes & lids will run amuck
-
Cotchin and or deledio have been tagged in parts all yr but it is not stopping them.
Deledio is kicking arse this yr flying under the radar a bit cos of Cotchin but I reckon lids is having his best yr ever
-
% % %
-
Sportal tipping us by over 5 goals :thumbsup
WE THINK:
It's hard to begrudge the Tigers faithful some success but when their army starts to bulge for the first time in a decade, it borders on a little scary. Damien Hardwick has his side playing desperate football but it is far more than their hardness at the contest that sees them on the cusp of the eight, they are playing highly entertaining football as well. Last week's win over the Saints was one of the games of the season; the pummelling they dished out to the Hawks the week prior was even more emphatic. When Riewoldt plays with confidence, he's exceptionally hard to stop as the Hawks' and Saints' defences will attest. In Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Foley, Shane Tuck, Dustin Martin and Shaun Grigg to name a few, the Tigers boast impressive depth as well as variety in midfield. The 'mulleted' Ivan Maric has become a cult figure with the club's fans but it is much more than his hair-do that has impressed, with the 26-year-old former Crow now one of the form ruckman in the league. The Dockers have struggled to score this season and lead only four teams in the points for column. Aaron Sandilands continues to win the majority of hit outs but the Dockers lack depth in midfield and could be critically exposed in that area of the field on Saturday. The Tigers have endured by far the toughest draw of any side so far having played all of the current top eight sides in the opening 10 rounds, but with nine of their next 13 games coming against sides outside the eight, things should get even better for Tigers' fans.
Richmond by 32 points.
Read the full preview at: http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-match-preview-display/preview-richmond-v-fremantle-180649
-
Dennis Cometti @DennisCometti twitter:
"No Clarke or Duffield at airport for traveling Dockers. John Anthony was there, but driving taxis and not named against Tigers."
-
God, I hope Anthony plays.
-
God, I hope Anthony plays.
:cheers
Absolute ass that bloke. Could bring back Silvester to do a job on him.
-
God, I hope Anthony plays.
:cheers
Absolute ass that bloke. Could bring back Silvester to do a job on him.
Royce Vardy can have a night on the turps tomorrow night, spend the night in the lock up and come and play on Anthony. Some here will say we've found a KPP.
-
:lol
-
D D D D D Danger gameeeeee :/
-
Don't give a stuff about the margin just want the 4pts
God, I hope Anthony plays.
:cheers
Absolute ass that bloke. Could bring back Silvester to do a job on him.
Royce Vardy can have a night on the turps tomorrow night, spend the night in the lock up and come and play on Anthony. Some here will say we've found a KPP.
:lol lmpwao
-
D D D D D Danger gameeeeee :/
Feel that too Johnny.
Will be alot closer than some may think.
-
D D D D D Danger gameeeeee :/
Feel that too Johnny.
Will be alot closer than some may think.
Freo will play like its the Grand Final..
Not confident at all with Axel out.
-
Agree with the above.
I'm almost going to tip the purple fuzz this week
-
Foley's out is huge. He, along with Tuck, is winning the ball around the stoppages and feeding it out the back to our better ball users when Cotch is tagged out of the contest. I can not think of another player we have who can come in and fill that inside mid role. This is a much bigger out that Grimes, Vickery or King was/is without doubt.
I worried about this game now where before I was confident :help
-
How long will it be for Axel? Will he be back for GWS or Adelaide?
-
'Expert' journo tips
The Age 21 - 2 ............... Lloyd tipped Freo ::)
Herald-Sun 29 - 1
-
Guys for damm sake have some confidence in the boys.I know Foley is a loss ,but it's no excuse if he's out we should still win Freo don't have Fyfe either.Agree it's a danger game if were not switched on and fail to rock up then were in trouble,but Dimma will have them switched on.
-
Lloyd is a jackass
-
losing foley should ensure that there is no complacency amongst the group.....hopefully
-
Lloyd probably spent too much time near Melbourne fans last week. Tanking the tips old harry highpants. :whistle
-
Guys for damm sake have some confidence in the boys.I know Foley is a loss ,but it's no excuse if he's out we should still win Freo don't have Fyfe either.Agree it's a danger game if were not switched on and fail to rock up then were in trouble,but Dimma will have them switched on.
I would compare Fyfe to Martin in terms of team importance at this stage and I would feel much more comfortable with Martins absence from the team than Foley's. Foley importance has been hugely under rated this year. A fully fit Foley has been one of the biggest differences our midfield this year and without him one of our better ball users will need to sacrifice his game to take over the role.
I still think we will win but his lose really hurts us.
-
From RFC twitter:
"Make it happen Tiger Army! RT @afl_pkeane Random stat - a 45,437 crowd at MCG tomorrow would be largest H&A attendance Freo will have had"
-
VIDEO: We Roar Preview the game against the Dockers with Richo and partner in crime Wayne Campbell ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/457760/default.aspx
or
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/457760/Roar%20Preview%20round%2011/
-
Tigers expecting Dockers lockdown
abc.net.au
June 08, 2012 12:39:57[/b]
Richmond is not expecting any repeat of the basketball-style AFL on show last week when they face Ross Lyon's Fremantle at the MCG on Saturday.
The Tigers and St Kilda put on a scoring feast in one of the best matches in recent memory last Friday night, Richmond posting a eight-point win in a match featuring 34 goals.
But as Lyon works on getting the Dockers to adopt his miserly defensive style, the Tigers are banking on a return to more conventional scores one week on.
"He is an outstanding coach and the sides he coaches are very disciplined about the way they play, very methodical about the way they play," Tigers coach Damien Hardwick says of Lyon.
"Defensively they're the best in the AFL ... if we don't control the game the way we need to control it, they can do some damage and stifle us offensively."
While the Tigers' midfield has taken much of the spotlight, their defence has improved markedly this season.
The Tigers conceded more than 100 points a match last season.
But they have reined that back to just under 90 in 2012 and the figure was tracking at much less until the Saints booted 16 goals against them last week.
The match pits the Tigers' cult hero ruckman Ivan Maric and his run of career-best form against the competition's ruck benchmark Aaron Sandilands.
So big has Maric's impact been, he looms as a possible All-Australian but his biggest test comes on Saturday against the freakish Sandilands, according to Hardwick.
"His (Sandilands) ability to cover the ground is enormous," he said.
"He's 123 kilograms and he covers the ground like a six-foot player.
"He's a formidable opponent, no doubt about that."
The Tigers' midfield has suffered a blow with in-form Nathan Foley missing with a minor leg injury.
Small forward Jake King is out suspended, with wingman or half-forward Brett O'Hanlon brought in for his AFL debut and defender Matt Dea recalled.
The Dockers have axed defender Paul Duffield, ruckman Zac Clarke and forward Jack Anthony for Nic Suban, Adam McPhee and Jonathon Griffin.
But midfielder Anthony Morabito will not return to the AFL until at least after the Dockers' bye next weekend.
He has played three matches in the WAFL since recovering from a serious knee injury, but the Dockers have resisted throwing him into action against the Tigers.
Both teams boast 5-5 win-loss records but contrasting form, with the Tigers winning their past two and the Dockers losing their past three.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-08/tigers-expecting-dockers-lockdown/4060626?section=vic
-
From RFC twitter:
"Make it happen Tiger Army! RT @afl_pkeane Random stat - a 45,437 crowd at MCG tomorrow would be largest H&A attendance Freo will have had"
Not impossible!
-
GO TIGERS
-
Jacko is going to get his wish. Hello wet weather footy.
-
C'mon boys, win this one then I am off to Suncorp tonight to watch the Wallabies spank Wales....:)
-
Mmmmmm, interesting qtr.....let them win the ball a bit too easily for mine..Lids needs to get into the gae, done nothing so far.
-
Freo playing much better, we need to be very Very careful here.
-
we are lucky they are not leading by more. Hopefully Deledio can break his tag and get more of the ball in the 2nd half.
-
2nd to the ball, Freo want it more and are playing simpler, smarter wet weather football.
Oh and btw frees are Freo 17 Rich 7 ::)
-
Yep we are not on today, lucky it's not dry otherwise I think we would gbetting flogged......anyone think we don't miss or can cover Foley easily now.....where are you CD??
If we get away with a win here we will be pretty lucky, we did the same last year, every time there is a spot in the 8 up for grabs we blow it.....let's just hope we don't do it again!
C'mon Tiges, bloody get to the ball first, get the clearances and just get the ball into the forward line quicker...
-
Must tag De Boer and stop Pavlich!!
-
Edwards really standing up this qtr!!!
-
Been good PNGQ he is going great guns this year taken a while to develop
Looks promising if he can keep this up
-
Gee they are killing us in the clearances
-
Lids having a bloody shocker.
-
Gee we just don't want this....goal to Cotch hit the front but I still don't know....
Need to sub mini Arc for O'Hanlon.
-
another raping by the umpires, wtf is going on ...
-
Not sure about the numbers but fremantle seem to be winning to the clearances which they haven't been doing for the past couple of rounds. We got to take control in the middle this last quarter.
-
Yep we are not on today, lucky it's not dry otherwise I think we would gbetting flogged......anyone think we don't miss or can cover Foley easily now.....where are you CD??
If we get away with a win here we will be pretty lucky, we did the same last year, every time there is a spot in the 8 up for grabs we blow it.....let's just hope we don't do it again!
C'mon Tiges, bloody get to the ball first, get the clearances and just get the ball into the forward line quicker...
The stuff you on about WAT? Result would be fairly similar if Foley was playing. Never said he wasn't a loss, just said we're capable of winning without him. If we're not then we should be worrying when players like him are the difference in a game v Freo.
-
2nd to the ball, Freo want it more and are playing simpler, smarter wet weather football.
Oh and btw frees are Freo 17 Rich 7 ::)
Frees favour team that's 1st to the ball
-
Yep we are not on today, lucky it's not dry otherwise I think we would gbetting flogged......anyone think we don't miss or can cover Foley easily now.....where are you CD??
If we get away with a win here we will be pretty lucky, we did the same last year, every time there is a spot in the 8 up for grabs we blow it.....let's just hope we don't do it again!
C'mon Tiges, bloody get to the ball first, get the clearances and just get the ball into the forward line quicker...
The stuff you on about WAT? Result would be fairly similar if Foley was playing. Never said he wasn't a loss, just said we're capable of winning without him. If we're not then we should be worrying when players like him are the difference in a game v Freo.
Well CD, the moment we don't look like we are capable of winning without him do we?
We are getting smashed in the clearances and guess where he is a specialist!
-
Ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk
-
Like the Tigers of old........
Pav is toweling us up...6 goals 15 points up now.....over for mine!
-
Big Ivan having a shocker too.
-
Weak as pee Tiges.......just weak!
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
just after I post that he finally gets a disposal and gets caught holding the ball.
-
A crap performance. The players were playing like millionaires last week and this week they copped it from freo. Our season is just about done and dusted now. Today = 3/10 performance = Crap.
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
Did you see him smiling at half time and making fun of an injured player?
What a stuffen idiot..
Needs to be dropped for 5 weeks.
-
Also Deledio can shove his article and media gigs up his arse.
-
we were strangled to death
we did not deserve to win this game .full credit to fremantle .
freo played much better wet weather football .
interstate teams at the m c g should be automatic win
-
Freo were very good in the wet. Unlike rfc
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
Did you see him smiling at half time and making fun of an injured player?
What a stuffen idiot..
Needs to be dropped for 5 weeks.
He needs to find last years form and quickly. As the commentator's even mentioned his man is dropping off and helping to out number Jack.
-
ugly ugly ugly ugly game of football by the way .Ross Lyon is footballs answer to the anti Geez.I thought I was watching 5 nations rugby .
-
Thought O'Hanlon looked ok but should of come on earlier for mini Marc and Griff should of stayed forward for mine!
Just stuffing blew this one big time, took our early lead for granted and didn't defend it...
Very week performance, blame the umpires a they were disgusting but in the end they wanted it more.
Very disappointed, very down, we really should of won this.
-
LOL Mat yeh it was ugly and as soon as it started to pour I knew it would favour Freo
O'Hanlon looked OK and not overawed
-
Its true Freo play Rugby..
Am never watching them play again. There was not one exciting moment in the whole game.
-
Thought O'Hanlon looked ok but should of come on earlier for mini Marc and Griff should of stayed forward for mine!
Just stuffing blew this one big time, took our early lead for granted and didn't defend it[/b]...
Very week performance, blame the umpires a they were disgusting but in the end they wanted it more.
Very disappointed, very down, we really should of won this.
Last week we had St Kilda on the rack and twice we let them back in. We have been playing millionaire type footy for a while and it was always gonna come unstuck. Unfortunately it was today. We had 2 weeks to the bye and we just had to win these two games to be right in the van for the eight. Now sadly we almost need miracles.
-
Rubbish effort. Freo wanted it more.
What a waste of an opportunity :banghead
-
Rubbish effort. Freo wanted it more.
What a waste of an opportunity :banghead
In one!!!
-
Off to see the Wallabies now....stuff they better win.
-
Could have done with Matty White in the side today.
:lol
-
Didn't rock up to play today simple.Credit to Freo they were fantastic and there defence was awsome.We didn't adapt to wet weather footy first half and we were trying to be to cute.Thought Dimma and his team got outclassed in the box today.The team was poohouse besides a few. .
-
Several players need to hand their paycheck back for today's effort.
Deledio, Martin and co.
Over Nahas - cant kick, take a mark or bring others into the team. How many times did this bloke stick one hand out to receive a hand ball to play for a free kick. Bloody hell, they are only going to tackle you, not hit you with a plank of wood...Coward!
Will give Jack benefit of the doubt because he may be injured. But, as a team, wouldn't you be aware and look for other options other than the injured guy???
We need someone who can take a contested mark (or a chest mark) in the back half. Rance was out marked by Pavlich all day.
So flat and disappointed about today's effort.
-
eff this, i'm off to get drunk
poor performance, with the frustration enhanced by the umpiring. how many holding and high hits on tigers did those green slime miss. they cant be that incompetent, so are they cheats?
beer, mmmmmm.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSexTZbRbjDtJLw9UtNPwUH8ZPEIFwJSVUEiZ4hwNj_4nJaujtUZr81UI)
-
a disgusting game of football to watch from start to finish.
Would have been more exciting watching sheep run around a paddock.
The bombs we were sending forward were way too easily read and punched away.
We looked tired by halftime.
umpiring was its usual crock.
ballantyne is the new #1 as most hated footballer in the AFL.
Steve Morris can hold his head high, really gutsy in almost every one of his contests.
-
Could have done with Matty White in the side today.
:lol
I agree, O'Hanlon went at 38% effectiveness (lowest in the side).
Matt White's run would have helped at both ends of the ground.
:cheers
-
The Freo zone and wet weather footy just equaled probably one of, if not the most disgusting game of football I have ever seen. Burleigh vs Maroochydore in 2 foot of water about 4 years ago had better skills and more entertainment.
Good bye finals.
-
Time to put the heater on and play Diablo 3 for the rest of the weekend :-[ /devo
-
Rubbish effort. Freo wanted it more.
What a waste of an opportunity :banghead
In one!!!
Summed up perfectly
We got strangled by a far desperate team.
And why we tried to play dry weather footy in the rain was simply staggering
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
Did you see him smiling at half time and making fun of an injured player?
What a stuffen idiot..
Needs to be dropped for 5 weeks.
And replace him who?
Miller ;D
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
Did you see him smiling at half time and making fun of an injured player?
What a stuffen idiot..
Needs to be dropped for 5 weeks.
And replace him who?
Miller ;D
lol at the moment Miller is better than Vickery
-
Jack need to stop whingeing at the umpires to and play his game.
-
I'm slightly more philosophical.
Yep Freo wanted it more but I felt the conditions played their role. Wet day wet ball meant the game was going to be a slog. A Ross Lyon coached side prides itself on this type of slog.
Thought Dimma got outcoached too. Dry weather footy on a wet day. Reminds me of the Nought game two years ago when Cotch got reported.
Should have moved Lids to FF and moved Crowley there. Kept Crowley out of the middle and opened it up for us a bit at the stoppages.
De Boer and Griffin stifled our centre clearance work and it was almost a blessing for them Sandilands got injured. Brett O'Farrell rule applies here. Big Maric was very ineffectual and we really missed Foley's extraction and explosiveness today. Would have opened the game up a bit and his pace on a day like this well who knows maybe we'd be talking about playing badly but winning.
Furthermore they got 6 from Pav and a couple from that rat and other snaps that just went in whereas Cotch's scrapes the Post in the last and others that would normally go in.
Batch made two critical mistakes handball missing target in the last set up Pav's 5th and from the bounce Pav got his 6th and going up in the third as an extra man when Rance had it covered left noone on ground level and Mzungu finds De Boer to put them in front just before 3 qt time. Furthermore in the 2nd what was Bachar thinking going across to the other flank in the wet when he had a link in the chain running past cost us another goal. Like last week we manufactured our goals yet we gifted goals to the opposition through awful errors.
Don't get me started on the umps who adjudicated the game with no logic at all. I don't think I have ever seen a game umpired as badly as it was in the second quarter. That Vickery head high tackle paid holding the ball in the last I won't go as far as saying it may have cost a draw or a win but there you go we had the members side open. May not have won if we got that one but how can you miss it. The guy is 2 metres tall and was standing erect.
These are the games we need to win which leads me to my next point. We beat sides that possibly are better or have performed better than us in the not too distant past ie Hawks and St Kilda last two weeks which is what possibly is being drummed into the team ie respect competitiveness results a sense of belonging in this comp but maybe just maybe our mental preparation and development has left us short when we play sides we should win ie Freo today Port and GC last year. I hope this mental failure against poorer sides is not a habit but just a coincidence and not the norm. Given Carlton's loss last night this certainly was missed opportunity.
I expect us to get back on track next week and all today did was give us a reality check and ensure that now assuming results go as expected in our games against opposition lower to us on the ladder that we beat one of Adelaide at AAMI, Carlton, Freo in Perth or Essendon in Round 22 to make it.
-
We have played 11 games this year and seen enough of Vickery
Hopeless
As for poor Matty White
-
Vickery. hahahaha he is a poor excuse of a footballer in every game this year
anyone is better than him, and i mean anyone. Would go as far as to say Mcguane could perform better than Vickery but he keeps getting games
-
I'm slightly more philosophical.
Yep Freo wanted it more but I felt the conditions played their role. Wet day wet ball meant the game was going to be a slog. A Ross Lyon coached side prides itself on this type of slog.
Thought Dimma got outcoached too. Dry weather footy on a wet day. Reminds me of the Nought game two years ago when Cotch got reported.
Should have moved Lids to FF and moved Crowley there. Kept Crowley out of the middle and opened it up for us a bit at the stoppages.
De Boer and Griffin stifled our centre clearance work and it was almost a blessing for them Sandilands got injured. Brett O'Farrell rule applies here. Big Maric was very ineffectual and we really missed Foley's extraction and explosiveness today. Would have opened the game up a bit and his pace on a day like this well who knows maybe we'd be talking about playing badly but winning.
Furthermore they got 6 from Pav and a couple from that rat and other snaps that just went in whereas Cotch's scrapes the Post in the last and others that would normally go in.
Batch made two critical mistakes handball missing target in the last set up Pav's 5th and from the bounce Pav got his 6th and going up in the third as an extra man when Rance had it covered left noone on ground level and Mzungu finds De Boer to put them in front just before 3 qt time. Furthermore in the 2nd what was Bachar thinking going across to the other flank in the wet when he had a link in the chain running past cost us another goal. Like last week we manufactured our goals yet we gifted goals to the opposition through awful errors.
Don't get me started on the umps who adjudicated the game with no logic at all. I don't think I have ever seen a game umpired as badly as it was in the second quarter. That Vickery head high tackle paid holding the ball in the last I won't go as far as saying it may have cost a draw or a win but there you go we had the members side open. May not have won if we got that one but how can you miss it. The guy is 2 metres tall and was standing erect.
These are the games we need to win which leads me to my next point. We beat sides that possibly are better or have performed better than us in the not too distant past ie Hawks and St Kilda last two weeks which is what possibly is being drummed into the team ie respect competitiveness results a sense of belonging in this comp but maybe just maybe our mental preparation and development has left us short when we play sides we should win ie Freo today Port and GC last year. I hope this mental failure against poorer sides is not a habit but just a coincidence and not the norm. Given Carlton's loss last night this certainly was missed opportunity.
I expect us to get back on track next week and all today did was give us a reality check and ensure that now assuming results go as expected in our games against opposition lower to us on the ladder that we beat one of Adelaide at AAMI, Carlton, Freo in Perth or Essendon in Round 22 to make it.
Good points Tucker but you can't help but be very disappointed
-
We are just a dumb football side, the amount of goals we cough up and stupid free Kicks we give away just kills us.
-
Why was Griff subbed :huh :huh Jack was injured and doing nothing, at least Griff could have 'changed-up' the forward line.....and there was a multitude of medium-sized 'skirts' who should have been benched in any case. Dumb Dimma dumb :-[
-
Where is Vicker? All these long kicks into the F50 and his no where.
Did you see him smiling at half time and making fun of an injured player?
What a stuffen idiot..
Needs to be dropped for 5 weeks.
And replace him who?
Miller ;D
ive said it before and gonna say again now. we have options we just dont use them. what the hell is wrong with giving one of elton derickx or post a game for that matter astbury when fit.
we go into games with just one kpf in jack because sure as hell vickery does none of the things a kpf should. we also go into games a ruckman short because tyrone wont compete when it gets tough.
this bloke is not hurting us in one position but two.
give another tall forward a game and play vickery off the pine as a ruckman. failing that in a pocket as the ruck/forward. or better still send him back to coburg where he belongs and try someone/something different. 9 out of 9 games hes played hes been way below the standard required when will enough crao be enough.
what i dont understand is why sub griffiths why not throw him forward and sub vickery out of the game.
on a bright note thought o'hanlon did enough to get a full game next week. hes 189 and could play as a third tall or tall medium player.
-
I'm slightly more philosophical.
Yep Freo wanted it more but I felt the conditions played their role. Wet day wet ball meant the game was going to be a slog. A Ross Lyon coached side prides itself on this type of slog.
Thought Dimma got outcoached too. Dry weather footy on a wet day. Reminds me of the Nought game two years ago when Cotch got reported.
Should have moved Lids to FF and moved Crowley there. Kept Crowley out of the middle and opened it up for us a bit at the stoppages.
De Boer and Griffin stifled our centre clearance work and it was almost a blessing for them Sandilands got injured. Brett O'Farrell rule applies here. Big Maric was very ineffectual and we really missed Foley's extraction and explosiveness today. Would have opened the game up a bit and his pace on a day like this well who knows maybe we'd be talking about playing badly but winning.
Furthermore they got 6 from Pav and a couple from that rat and other snaps that just went in whereas Cotch's scrapes the Post in the last and others that would normally go in.
Batch made two critical mistakes handball missing target in the last set up Pav's 5th and from the bounce Pav got his 6th and going up in the third as an extra man when Rance had it covered left noone on ground level and Mzungu finds De Boer to put them in front just before 3 qt time. Furthermore in the 2nd what was Bachar thinking going across to the other flank in the wet when he had a link in the chain running past cost us another goal. Like last week we manufactured our goals yet we gifted goals to the opposition through awful errors.
Don't get me started on the umps who adjudicated the game with no logic at all. I don't think I have ever seen a game umpired as badly as it was in the second quarter. That Vickery head high tackle paid holding the ball in the last I won't go as far as saying it may have cost a draw or a win but there you go we had the members side open. May not have won if we got that one but how can you miss it. The guy is 2 metres tall and was standing erect.
These are the games we need to win which leads me to my next point. We beat sides that possibly are better or have performed better than us in the not too distant past ie Hawks and St Kilda last two weeks which is what possibly is being drummed into the team ie respect competitiveness results a sense of belonging in this comp but maybe just maybe our mental preparation and development has left us short when we play sides we should win ie Freo today Port and GC last year. I hope this mental failure against poorer sides is not a habit but just a coincidence and not the norm. Given Carlton's loss last night this certainly was missed opportunity.
I expect us to get back on track next week and all today did was give us a reality check and ensure that now assuming results go as expected in our games against opposition lower to us on the ladder that we beat one of Adelaide at AAMI, Carlton, Freo in Perth or Essendon in Round 22 to make it.
Good points Tucker but you can't help but be very disappointed
Of course WP I'm gutted at us missing our opportunity. We could have ticked another box and a psychological one against Freo where we could have beaten them playing badly whilst they played the game on their terms. Unfortunantely we have dropped many of these games in the passed. Does this mean the St Kilda hoodoo moves to Fremantle now?
As I said I feel gutted at the loss but it's one in 3 weeks and if anything they are still a developing side and have lots to learn. You can't teach effort but you can inspire it and today there was not much inspiration there.
I think we put it down as an aberration and ensure we get the four points next week no matter what. At least that will have shown some desire to right the wrongs of this week in the short term at least.
-
Why was Griff subbed :huh :huh Jack was injured and doing nothing, at least Griff could have 'changed-up' the forward line.....and there was a multitude of medium-sized 'skirts' who should have been benched in any case. Dumb Dimma dumb :-[
Griff spent some time forward in the 3rd and at least presented
Was surprised he was the sub
-
Call a media ban until we can learn to deal with the scrutiny.
No players to go on footy show period. That show is a hoodoo for us.
-
We have played 11 games this year and seen enough of Vickery
Hopeless
As for poor Matty White
Yep Whitey has been great @ Coburg as a tall forward releiving in the ruck !! :)
-
We have played 11 games this year and seen enough of Vickery
Hopeless
As for poor Matty White
Yep Whitey has been great @ Coburg as a tall forward releiving in the ruck !! :)
It was wet in case you didnt notice
tall for small. pretty simple
Lost foley and white was a suitable replacement. Vickery :banghead :banghead :banghead
-
We have played 11 games this year and seen enough of Vickery
Hopeless
As for poor Matty White
Yep Whitey has been great @ Coburg as a tall forward releiving in the ruck !! :)
It was wet in case you didnt notice
tall for small. pretty simple
Lost foley and white was a suitable replacement. Vickery :banghead :banghead :banghead
Me no comprehendy , hey
-
ugly ugly ugly ugly game of football by the way .Ross Lyon is footballs answer to the anti Geez.I thought I was watching 5 nations rugby .
I agree 100%. Can't stand the way he coaches teams. Hated watching Sydney when he was there. Hated watching st.kilda when he was coaching. Now I hate watching freo.
That said I think he out coached hardwick today.
The conditions also helped freo play exactly the game they wanted.
-
ugly ugly ugly ugly game of football by the way .Ross Lyon is footballs answer to the anti Geez.I thought I was watching 5 nations rugby .
I agree 100%. Can't stand the way he coaches teams. Hated watching Sydney when he was there. Hated watching st.kilda when he was coaching. Now I hate watching freo.
That said I think he out coached hardwick today.
The conditions also helped freo play exactly the game they wanted.
Agree with all of the above :thumbsup
-
The umpires, the weather and Ross Lyon's patented butt-ugly rugby poo all conspired to beat us today. Sat there for four quarters with the rain filling up my boots, and didn't see one frigging highlight all day long. Every bit of criticism that was directed Lyon's way the other week was totally justified. He has no leg to stand on defending that stacks on the mill GARBAGE they served up today!!The sooner his ilk are drummed out of the competition and join the likes of Paul Roos in the media where they belong, and stop ruining our game the better. I feel like sending him a gift-wrapped shoe-box full of steaming fecal matter to let him know what I think of his "game plan".
-
The umpires, the weather and Ross Lyon's patented butt-ugly rugby pooe all conspired to beat us today. Sat there for four quarters with the rain filling up my boots, and didn't see one frigging highlight all day long. Every bit of criticism that was directed Lyon's way the other week was totally justified. He has no leg to stand on defending that stacks on the mill GARBAGE they served up today!!The sooner his ilk are drummed out of the competition and join the likes of Paul Roos in the media where they belong, and stop ruining our game the better. I feel like sending him a gift-wrapped shoe-box full of steaming fecal matter to let him know what I think of his "game plan".
Amen
-
The one thing that peeed me off more than anything was when Newman got elbowes by the little snipe ballantyne. I didn't see anyone go over to knock him out.
When he did the same thing to chapman I seen Scarlett smash his face in.
It's a bloody discrace that the captain can get elbowed in the guts and not one player went over to ballantyne to let him know it's unacceptable. :banghead
MRP would be looking at it pretty closely I reckon.
-
Tough season anything can happen, needed to win these games to give ourselves a chance, it's what the good sides do.
Seems to me they were more interested in 'Structures' and over possessed in conditions that required a crash bash and get it forward quicker.
Once again we never gave up and apart from Tankers Round 1 haven't looked out of a contest this year.
Victories over Hawks Saints and to a lesser extent the Swans are a great step forward for this club, been a long time coming.
No excuse, we should of been Harder and the conditions suited that absolute disgrace to the game Lyons plan and the Dockers once again were harder in there where/when it counted.
Lyon should be banned for bringing the game into disrepute, but that's another argument.
If we are serious I expect us to come out breathing fire next week and I am gunna have a bit of a tonk on the 100+ margin, set up beautifully.
-
Basil Zemplis being a smartarse wanker and making a oint of supposed richmond supporters leaving the grounds early ::) ::)
Boots coming in from everywhere it would seem :wallywink
-
Basil Zemplis being a smartbehind wanker and making a oint of supposed richmond supporters leaving the grounds early ::) ::)
Boots coming in from everywhere it would seem :wallywink
He is from WA. Not sure if he is a Freo fan but he may just be gloating if he is.
-
ugly ugly ugly ugly game of football by the way .Ross Lyon is footballs answer to the anti Geez.I thought I was watching 5 nations rugby .
I dont buy this. As they game was being played i found my self thinking lyon is a top coach. (Along with other general things). The game has beeb rugbylike for years. At least lyon is effective. Got thepoints on the day.
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
-
Ekto,
To answer this question
I'm questioning his disposal openly on this forum for the first time TODAY although it has been noticeable to me that it has not been upto scratch all year.
Scrubby kick on along the ground in the first that turned over the ball and got Pav his bouncy goal in the first. Kick in the third where we had momentum and the ball went 30 metres after he had broken clear. Critical time in the game after Cotch had given us the lead. Plenty of times in the last and throughout the game but more noticeably in the last rather than put boot to ball too many times trying to fend off players and looking for contact rather than keeping it simple in conditions like these.
The kid came here with huge raps and has broken games open with his presence strength and kicking hence my reference to a few games last year where he was the clear and undisputed matchwinner.
I don't think he will be going to Coburg that's just reactionary to think when dealing with a player of his ability just give him a rocket and put the ball back in his court and hope the kid responds.
As for learning the caper this kid is a ready made footballer. He should know better.
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
Well said mate.Ross out classed our box simple as that.You can blame the umpires Freos style it's no exuse we didnt come to play.
-
PICS: From yesterday's game ...
Slattery Images
www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL 2012 Rd 11 - Richmond v Fremantle (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL 2012 Rd 11 - Richmond v Fremantle)
Getty Images
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=136360191&EditorialProduct=Sport (http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=136360191&EditorialProduct=Sport)
VIDEO: Tiger highlights
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tiger%20highlights/tabid/19066/default.aspx
-
Basil Zemplis being a smartbehind wanker and making a oint of supposed richmond supporters leaving the grounds early ::) ::)
Boots coming in from everywhere it would seem :wallywink
Didn't see anyone leave early. What a knob.
-
Call a media ban until we can learn to deal with the scrutiny.
No players to go on footy show period. That show is a hoodoo for us.
First line makes no sense. How can we learn to deal with it if we ban it?
-
Basil Zemplis being a smartbehind wanker and making a oint of supposed richmond supporters leaving the grounds early ::) ::)
Boots coming in from everywhere it would seem :wallywink
Didn't see anyone leave early. What a knob.
They did show footage from level 1 where people were leaving maybe say 10 at once...
But know these media priques there was probably 2 mins left on the clock.
Funny they. Didn't show the cameras when they got trounced by adelaide
-
ugly ugly ugly ugly game of football by the way .Ross Lyon is footballs answer to the anti Geez.I thought I was watching 5 nations rugby .
I dont buy this. As they game was being played i found my self thinking lyon is a top coach. (Along with other general things). The game has beeb rugbylike for years. At least lyon is effective. Got thepoints on the day.
Yes! The game has been like rugby for years. That doesn't make it right. Instead of praising Ross Lyon for serving up that GARBAGE we should tar and feather him and run him out of town. Thanks to the AFL not putting a cap on the number of interchanges per game, it's likely to stay that way too.
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
A perfect summation.
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
A perfect summation.
X 2
People bag Lyon, the weather this that
Give me a break
They played a great game
Move on
-
We flogged the hawks in the wet. No excuse
Simply, as some have said, we were outplayed by a side that wanted it more. The common theme all day was more white jumpers at the contest. That basic fundamental will win you games of football, wet or dry.
It was a pox game to watch,
A pox effort from the tiges,
A pox performance from the umps,
And a pox result.
Overall, it was just pox :banghead
-
Their superior physical srength stood out from the beginning, 12 points flattered us imo
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
A perfect summation.
X 2
People bag Lyon, the weather this that
Give me a break
They played a great game
Move on
How in your wildest fantasies could you call that tripe a great game??? Were you there? Did you sit in that rain all day watching one rolling rugby scrum after another, with not one discernible highlight? And Smokey, this contention that they wanted it more and implicitly deserved the lopsided free kick count that was gifted them is equally spurious. When I take out a football membership, that is exactly what I expect to witness: FOOTBALL. If I want to watch rugby, I'll buy a Melbourne Storm season ticket. End of story.
-
if we r to be a good team we must find ways to play on our terms
ross lyon knows how to beat us , he has never lost v us
-
Freo tackled harder and were cleaner with there disposal.....We were out played today by a side that wanted it more....End of story!
A perfect summation.
X 2
People bag Lyon, the weather this that
Give me a break
They played a great game
Move on
How in your wildest fantasies could you call that tripe a great game??? Were you there? Did you sit in that rain all day watching one rolling rugby scrum after another, with not one discernible highlight? And Smokey, this contention that they wanted it more and implicitly deserved the lopsided free kick count that was gifted them is equally spurious. When I take out a football membership, that is exactly what I expect to witness: FOOTBALL. If I want to watch rugby, I'll buy a Melbourne Storm season ticket. End of story.
Bloke I was there in the rain
Level 1, Row H
I saw a good game played by the Dockers. They were cleaner and more desperate
You see Cotch, Tuck and Morris??
That's how the rest should've played but didn't
That's why we lost
I don't care how he coaches that's not my concern I'd rather focus on why we dropped marks, didn't go in harder and why our players attempt those side kicks that go no where
-
And Smokey, this contention that they wanted it more and implicitly deserved the lopsided free kick count that was gifted them is equally spurious. When I take out a football membership, that is exactly what I expect to witness: FOOTBALL. If I want to watch rugby, I'll buy a Melbourne Storm season ticket. End of story.
RR, where on earth did I say or even imply that they deserved the lopsided free kick count? I haven't mentioned the umpiring in any of my posts about this game and even though I think the umpiring was disgraceful I don't think it had any impact on the final score at all. What I witnessed was one team who played the right type of football to beat the conditions and their opponent, and another team who played dumb, soft football and had no capacity (or intention seemingly) to change anything to try and win. We were comprehensively outcoached and that just added to the woes of our playing efforts. And as far as the game as a spectacle goes, we could have lifted the game above the depths that it ended up in by being smarter in our coaching and much more committed in our on-field efforts but sadly we were lacking in both, hence allowing Freo to dictate the play and style. They knew the best (maybe only) way they could beat us was to drag the game into the gutter and stifle our run and carry, and they did just that. Ugly? Yes, but effective and they got the 4 points. We play an attractive brand of football and in a perfect world you would like to see all teams play that way but it's about winning premierships and if you have to change it up occasionally to achieve ultimate success then only the dumb or incapable teams would refuse to do that. And I'm not advocating playing the Freo way every game - like you, I hate watching it - but sometimes you just have to be smart enough to know what is going to work for you on any given week. Like the old Kenny Rogers song goes - "you've gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run".
-
We won't make the finals this year.
I know some where saying we might get as high as 6th but there's no way.
I reckon it will be a fight to get in but freo will make it.
The only consolation is that I reckon the blues will miss and hopefully we help make sure of this in round 18.
-
Nope not convinced we cant make finals.the competiton is very even this year.Teams will drop games ..We are still very much alive
-
We won't make the finals this year.
I know some where saying we might get as high as 6th but there's no way.
I reckon it will be a fight to get in but freo will make it.
The only consolation is that I reckon the blues will miss and hopefully we help make sure of this in round 18.
Have to make up yesterdays loss with a shock win somewhere else in the season. Not improbable but we could drop another game like yesterdays that we needed to win. Its gonna be very very hard to makr the eight IMHO.
-
We flogged the hawks in the wet. No excuse
Simply, as some have said, we were outplayed by a side that wanted it more. The common theme all day was more white jumpers at the contest. That basic fundamental will win you games of football, wet or dry.
It was a pox game to watch,
A pox effort from the tiges,
A pox performance from the umps,
And a pox result.
Overall, it was just pox :banghead
Just about sums it up al, we just didn't turn up!
-
RR, where on earth did I say or even imply that they deserved the lopsided free kick count? I haven't mentioned the umpiring in any of my posts about this game and even though I think the umpiring was disgraceful I don't think it had any impact on the final score at all. What I witnessed was one team who played the right type of football to beat the conditions and their opponent, and another team who played dumb, soft football and had no capacity (or intention seemingly) to change anything to try and win. We were comprehensively outcoached and that just added to the woes of our playing efforts. And as far as the game as a spectacle goes, we could have lifted the game above the depths that it ended up in by being smarter in our coaching and much more committed in our on-field efforts but sadly we were lacking in both, hence allowing Freo to dictate the play and style. They knew the best (maybe only) way they could beat us was to drag the game into the gutter and stifle our run and carry, and they did just that. Ugly? Yes, but effective and they got the 4 points. We play an attractive brand of football and in a perfect world you would like to see all teams play that way but it's about winning premierships and if you have to change it up occasionally to achieve ultimate success then only the dumb or incapable teams would refuse to do that. And I'm not advocating playing the Freo way every game - like you, I hate watching it - but sometimes you just have to be smart enough to know what is going to work for you on any given week. Like the old Kenny Rogers song goes - "you've gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run".
Excellent post smokey :clapping
Was a ugly game but Freo played the conditions well, we simply played dumb footy. They strangled us with their look down crap and didn't know how to cope
Yep the umpiring was terrible but it wasn't the umpires who had us playing from behind. Basic rule of wet weather footy play in front!
And BTW where I have my reserved seats can tell you people were leaving early = half way through the final qtr
-
My original comment about this game was that the weather, the umpires and Ross Lyon's butt-ugly tactics all conspired against us yesterday. I suppose I could also have conceded that, yes, we were off our game too. Lids and Martin were well down, the big Mullet played his first shocker for the season, Rance was towelled up, Vickery was a passenger YET AGAIN, we got zippo from mini-Maric and Jacko was just his usual dumb self. For some reason, most people blame a loss on one factor, (ie, we didn't play well) rather than looking at the bigger picture which allows for a number of reasons.
But make no mistake, in a 2 goal loss the umpiring was a huge factor. In the last quarter alone, if they'd paid the head high tackle to Morris in front of goal after he drifted forward, we'd have closed to within a point of them, and who knows what would've happened from there.
But even more sickening than that is the idea of giving any praise to Lyon for what his mob did yesterday. He should be roundly condemned, as any coach should be, for bringing the game into disrepute. He thoroughly deserved the vitriol he drew a fortnight ago in their loss to Adelaide. And just because this time his "tactics" worked, doesn't mean he should be praised. That crap is a DISGRACE!
-
Tough season anything can happen, needed to win these games to give ourselves a chance, it's what the good sides do.
Seems to me they were more interested in 'Structures' and over possessed in conditions that required a crash bash and get it forward quicker.
Once again we never gave up and apart from Tankers Round 1 haven't looked out of a contest this year.
Victories over Hawks Saints and to a lesser extent the Swans are a great step forward for this club, been a long time coming.
No excuse, we should of been Harder and the conditions suited that absolute disgrace to the game Lyons plan and the Dockers once again were harder in there where/when it counted.
Lyon should be banned for bringing the game into disrepute, but that's another argument.
If we are serious I expect us to come out breathing fire next week and I am gunna have a bit of a tonk on the 100+ margin, set up beautifully.
:bow
-
Their superior physical srength stood out from the beginning, 12 points flattered us imo
whats the answer then. wet or dry in finals the physical strength will come into it more.
still think when the injuries pile up the losses will get bigger and bigger.
-
time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas
-
Just watched the replay and sheesh we made stupid mistakes and had passengers and were crucified by the umpires and were out coached and still lost by only 2 goals!! We are not far from being a very good side.
-
above the shoulders this game.
next week will be interesting...
had us going up 7-5 into the bye
lets hope 6-6. :gotigers
-
Their superior physical srength stood out from the beginning, 12 points flattered us imo
whats the answer then. wet or dry in finals the physical strength will come into it more.
still think when the injuries pile up the losses will get bigger and bigger.
Have to get stronger both mentlly and physically. It's no embarrassment to say freo out muscled us, they are a very physically mature side. We needed to stop playing dry weather footy looking for the release handball to the spare man, we kept fumbling in the wet and making freo's job of gaining yards easier as they just swarmed over any fumbles. Should have played Shane tuck style get I and kick it, reckon we would've won doing that
-
time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas
Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.
Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.
I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.
-
time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas
Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.
Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.
I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.
x2
-
That was about as ugly as footy can get.
Seriously anyone not an AFL fan would of been put off the sport for life on that performance.
DISGUSTING
-
They would have viwed it as a poor mans rugby...
-
On the Sunday Footy Show they mentioned we had 19 inside 50s to Freo's six in the last quarter. So we dominated but could only kick 1.4 while Freo kicked 3 goals from just those 6 entries. They were just more efficient hitting us on the counter while we botched our chances.
-
Our delivery into the forward line was poor. In contrast Freo could spot up players. It was always going to be a danger game. Freo were up for it. Lyon has a very good coaching record aganist us. If you are down 10% in effort you are always going to lose. We played dumb football not wet weather football. We tried to play too cute in the first half. Collectively as a team we looked off the boil. We weren't going in as hard as usual, we were always been caught behind and sometimes we were just standing back. I hope we have learnt a good lesson here and that the same mistakes won't be repeated
-
That was about as ugly as footy can get.
Seriously anyone not an AFL fan would of been put off the sport for life on that performance.
DISGUSTING
Amen! Absolute blight on the game that rubbish! What made it even worse was sitting in the rain all day, waiting for that corpse of a game to come to life. Talk about going from the sublime to the Shmitt-house in one week. :banghead
-
On the Sunday Footy Show they mentioned we had 19 inside 50s to Freo's six in the last quarter. So we dominated but could only kick 1.4 while Freo kicked 3 goals from just those 6 entries. They were just more efficient hitting us on the counter while we botched our chances.
It's not about "kicking efficiency" or botching our chances. I'll tell you why that happens, because it happens every single time that we get sucked into one of those "lockdown" games. They stack their whole side into our forward line when we try to attack, dragging their opponents with them and creating a frustrating congestion of bodies and limbs, where the ball moves an inch at a time. Eventually it squirts out just enough to get free, and they rush it up the ground before our mids and backs can untangle themselves, and get it to Pavlich who has acres of space to work in. The fact is they don't give you any chances to botch with those tactics. They're content to just sit on a one goal lead all day, sucking all the spectacle out of the game for four quarters. And in their, and the eyes of the media that's perfectly OK, because the end justifies the means. Well, I sincerely hope that Lyon burns out those purple pr!@#s trying to replicate that garbage every week on the wide open spaces of Subiaco. If there's any karma in footy, they'll be shot by August, and I'll dance on their frigging graves.
-
Heard a good caller on radio re: Freo v Rich.
Fremantle had a lot of things fall there way, whilst sounds like excuses, when added together gives a good indication of the result.
- Richmond weren't at their best
- Fremantle were at their best
- Wet conditions aided Fremantles game plan of maul shutdown football, where it hindered Richmonds free flowing precise counter style.
- Losing Foley lost an important contested ball winner, Richmond weren't able to replace him with poor squad depth. Same as Jake King, losing forward line pressure and goal kicking.
- Sandilands going down was a blessing in disguise, making Fremantle smaller across the ground perfect for wet conditions. This also made Fremantle a little bit unpredictable. It also gave Jonathan Griffen a chance at being number 1 ruckman given that Clarke was also out. Griffen gave 100% and beat ex team mate Maric, whom he would know a bit about.
- Riewoldts injury made Jack less dominant.
- First half free kick count was 17-7 in Freo's favour
- Freo were kicking some freakish goals. 1 from a blind snap from the boundary, another a checkside from Fre ruckman Griffen which slithered through. Pavlich also had his kicking boots on which happens 1 in every 4 years.
So when you add all of that together, as much as they are excuses, the majority of those things are out of control of our control. The main one obviously is that we weren't at our best but the rest are all factors of "thats football".
So I don't think there is anything to look back on and go ge it's panic stations.
-
Coaches Votes (Hardwick and Lyon)
Richmond vs Fremantle
10 Pavlich (Frem)
6 Cotchin (Rich)
6 De Boer (Frem)
4 McPharlin (Frem)
2 Crowley (Frem)
1 Hill (Frem)
1 Tuck (Rich)
http://aflca.com.au/index.php?id=14&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=981&tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=849f15fa95
-
time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas
Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.
Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.
I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.
X100000000000
-
Coaches Votes (Hardwick and Lyon)
Richmond vs Fremantle
10 Pavlich (Frem)
6 Cotchin (Rich)
6 De Boer (Frem)
4 McPharlin (Frem)
2 Crowley (Frem)
1 Hill (Frem)
1 Tuck (Rich)
http://aflca.com.au/index.php?id=14&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=981&tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=849f15fa95
Cotch is now 3rd and only 7 off the top spot. :bow
LEADERBOARD
55 Scott Pendlebury (Coll)
49 Jobe Watson (Ess)
48 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
47 Matthew Boyd (WB)
47 Brent Stanton (Ess)
42 Scott Thompson (Adel)
40 Josh Kennedy (Syd)
39 Patrick Dangerfield (Adel)
38 Rory Sloane (Adel)
37 Gary Ablett (GC)
-
Same Cotch that has only squeezed onto the interchange bench in some people's AA sides and missed all together in others? Or a different Cotch? :shh
-
Same Cotch that has only squeezed onto the interchange bench in some people's AA sides and missed all together in others? Or a different Cotch? :shh
What would AFL coaches know?
The media are the real experts :rollin
-
Chimp don't care
(http://www.ilovetech.com.au/media//funny_picture_chimpanzee_and_hot_chick_flipping_the_bird.jpg)
-
Hey who's posting my pic all over the net ;D
-
Unlucky lose for the lads, a few costly captain mistakes but l still beleive we are a better side than the Dockers