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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Stripes on July 13, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
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Going a little early discussing this game buy watching them tonight I am offically concerned. My biggest concern is not that they beat the Bluebaggers but more how they play. North play a man on man defence which has been our bugbear all year. Add to this a huge in form forward (who we have no one of size to match up on) and an abundance of quick and deangerous small forwards, I think we are in serious trouble. Earlier I had this down as a near certainity but given the state of each of our lists I think the opposite may now be true.
Touching up the Suns in Cairns now is a must :help
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Morth are like a turd that won't flush... Easiest effin draw they've had, they played GC twice and gws once. Some teams havnt played one of those two teams once yet.
Sure they're in form, but relity is they play really well under the roof at etihad and that's where they've won most of their games.
Am I concerned?? Of course I am, I've been saying that we will los to them on a return trip from a hot and humid cairns, but its typical of nots draw. Eff nort, their 5 supporters and that joke of a president what a wanker plays footsies with G lyon: aka hairy malaka.
I would rather lose to GC and come home and pump north by 10 goals, then ill buy. Anort jumper at the ground and torch it on punt road for braywank and all of his wanker friends to see.
TURD THAT WON'T FLUSH!!!!
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Going a little early discussing this game buy watching them tonight I am offically concerned. My biggest concern is not that they beat the Bluebaggers but more how they play. North play a man on man defence which has been our bugbear all year. Add to this a huge in form forward (who we have no one of size to match up on) and an abundance of quick and deangerous small forwards, I think we are in serious trouble. Earlier I had this down as a near certainity but given the state of each of our lists I think the opposite may now be true.
Touching up the Suns in Cairns now is a must :help
Agree on all points Stripes.
Our lack of form, injuries and our general wear and tear may get horribly exposed next week.
Furthermore these nobodies always seem to grow a leg against us.
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like the Gypsy's in Spain that follow you around and just when you think their gone, around they come again
Can handle losing to the Pies, cats but to this bunch of tossers, no
we owe them next week regardless what happens tomorrow
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Maybe so EEA but this piece of skata may float on the surface a little while longer unless we get our hands dirty and do the flushing ourselves.
We can name call them all we like but the way they played tonight we need to turn our form on next week and stop them otherwise they will gobble us up.
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like the Gypsy's in Spain that follow you around and just when you think their gone, around they come again
Can handle losing to the Pies, cats but to this bunch of tossers, no
we owe them next week regardless what happens tomorrow
Other clubs hurt but isn't longlasting because they are big clubs, better lists, better plan etc.
Losing to Nought hurts. It's like a 6 ft 4 heavyweight losing to a 5 ft 8 featherweight by knock out.
There is nowhere to hide. That's how I feel what sort of club we are compared to them regardless of our on field futility in the last 3 decades. I still writhe in pain and feel so hollow about the John Longmire 12 goal haul and 141 point loss to Nought in 1990. It still hurts more than any Gary Ablett inspired mauling or more generally Geelong in the same period.
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This is a season ending game to the losers
I think we will win but we will need to treat them like margarine
Spread Spread Spread
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Easiest draw ever.
I just want a win against Vlads Gold and will be counting the seconds for this game to come around.
Arrogant smucks.
I hope we kill em.
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Fair comment Stripes about us finding it more difficult against a man-on-man defence. I think that comes back to winning the contested footy and maintaining intensity over 4 quarters. Since Foley went down that's been left to two few (Cotch and Tucky) to carry the workload.
First of all we need to win tomorrow and hopefully well to boost our confidence and play with more fluency rather than stop and start rubbish and take that form into the North game. It a pain that we'll go into the game missing key players while they are at full strength. At least we get Dusty and Jacko :-\ back next week into the midfield. North should lose Ziebell but no guarantee the MRP will suspend him ::).
One thing to note is that next week will be North's first and only game at the 'G this year. Last year they had just one game at the 'G too. They haven't played at the 'G since round 16 last year when the Pies pumped them by 117 pts. Going into that game North had won 4 of their past 5 games so they can easily fall apart as we saw this year when Hawthorn pulverised them. North's wins have come at Etihad (6 from 8), Hobart (vs GWS) and up on the Gold Coast (just scrapped home against the Suns). Let's see how they go out in the open air and away from the protected fast dry confimes of Docklands. The other thing about this year is the middle sides have been up and down in form like a yo-yo all year. If we have 22 Tigers turning up to play over 4 quarters then we can win.
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if the club can't beat both BCS and NFC,then sadly they're fahrked
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Morth are like a turd that won't flush... Easiest effin draw they've had, they played GC twice and gws once. Some teams havnt played one of those two teams once yet.
Sure they're in form, but relity is they play really well under the roof at etihad and that's where they've won most of their games.
Am I concerned?? Of course I am, I've been saying that we will los to them on a return trip from a hot and humid cairns, but its typical of nots draw. Eff nort, their 5 supporters and that joke of a president what a wanker plays footsies with G lyon: aka hairy malaka.
I would rather lose to GC and come home and pump north by 10 goals, then ill buy. Anort jumper at the ground and torch it on punt road for braywank and all of his wanker friends to see.
TURD THAT WON'T FLUSH!!!!
Hope we flush em too.
Hope Caro has a big grin on her dial the Monday after this game.
Have a feeling Brayshaw charmed his way with Vlad into getting their pee easy draw.
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Looks like Nort will have to make a few changes as well, Zeible should get weeks for his bump, Adams didn't look good with all that ice on his shoulder and Petrie subbed off with what looked like a groin. Keep Harper and Harvey quiet and they are nothing, let's stick it right up em!
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I'm more concerned about GC to be honest.
We have half of Coburg playing.
North next week purely depends on which team turns up. If both teams play at their best, I'm confident out best beat there best quite easily.
We need a good show against GC to get some confidence as the last few weeks haven't been overly inspiring like we have been before the bye.
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huge build up for the Northern Beggars
rolling in Barry Cable from WA to talk
to the boys.
nice little ride from their fixture, but
reckon we can beat them.
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Going a little early discussing this game buy watching them tonight I am offically concerned. My biggest concern is not that they beat the Bluebaggers but more how they play. North play a man on man defence which has been our bugbear all year. Add to this a huge in form forward (who we have no one of size to match up on) and an abundance of quick and deangerous small forwards, I think we are in serious trouble. Earlier I had this down as a near certainity but given the state of each of our lists I think the opposite may now be true.
Touching up the Suns in Cairns now is a must :help
Reckon Rance could do a decent job on Petrie. Petrie is a good player but he doesn't kick 7 every week.
if the club can't beat both BCS and NFC,then sadly they're stuffed
We will beat whoever BCS are but N0rt go ok. I'll be unhappy if we got rolled by those wankers but missing finals this year is not the end of the world. Some blokes on here have already conceded anyway.
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Petrie won't play
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Hope we flush em too.
Hope Caro has a big grin on her dial the Monday after this game.
Have a feeling Brayshaw charmed his way with Vlad into getting their pee easy draw.
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Yeah seems the type to get a nose rash and gobble some nuggets
I can hack losing to the blues, but not this mob$
As Davey said, missing finals is not the end of the world ( or apparently so according to the mayans this year)
But beating these wankers is a non negotiable
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Being at the G we should be a good chance. Lets just get over GC first them pump up for a belting of North. We'll need Derrickx to do well today and have some confidence next week
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Have a feeling Brayshaw charmed his way with Vlad into getting their pee easy draw.
Wouldn't have taken much, Vlad being an ex-Shinboner and all.
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Petrie won't play
he wanted to come back on but after leading by 50, they would rather have subbed him off.
Nothing in it i think he will play
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We looked a million bucks too after beating Hawthorn and St Kilda....then somehow lost to Freo at the MCG.
Must win today..win one of next two..prey that Geelong start get the shakes.
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Geelong's remaining games are against teams in the 8.
Essendon still have Geelong, Hawthorn, Collingwood, Carlton, RIchmond to play so a few losses in a row will bring them back also.
There may be 2 spots up for grabs.
Whilst our draw over the next 5 weeks is not impossible lets start off by winning today as a side wanting to play top 8 footy should and then we'll worry about Nought, Carltankcheatlie, BrisVegas and the Dogs.
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Have a feeling Brayshaw charmed his way with Vlad into getting their pee easy draw.
Wouldn't have taken much, Vlad being an ex-Shinboner and all.
It's crook how they get a second shot at their season. Any other year, a team getting a belting like they did and losing so many games meant the season over. But not to n0rt. They had 16 points in the bank from the start and get a second go. Total bull.
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Have a feeling Brayshaw charmed his way with Vlad into getting their pee easy draw.
Wouldn't have taken much, Vlad being an ex-Shinboner and all.
It's crook how they get a second shot at their season. Any other year, a team getting a belting like they did and losing so many games meant the season over. But not to n0rt. They had 16 points in the bank from the start and get a second go. Total bull.
Would love to see them come 9th again and miss out to us by percentage :D
Vlad will probably give them 22 games against Gold Coast next year if that happened.
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Petrie was just on SEN saying he is sore, had ice on his leg all night and will have scans tomorrow to see if there is any damage. Is hoping because of the 8 day break he will come up in time.
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Rattle North in the first half and they fall apart. They lost to Hawks by 20 goals recently. A complete smashing
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lets just win today..
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No doubt it will be a milestone game for them. The ol' bootstudders tied his 1,000,000th bootlace....
They rarely loose those matches especially when playing us. :banghead
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if we don't win today, I couldn't give a stuff about the n0rt game. Such a crap club.
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Petrie was just on SEN saying he is sore, had ice on his leg all night and will have scans tomorrow to see if there is any damage. Is hoping because of the 8 day break he will come up in time.
Why am i not suprised by this, the draw is a farce.
They have a leprechaun hidden in their basement
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Seasons over I don't give a poo what happens losing to gcs was deplorable
We can't even string three wins in a row
Tank tank and wank rfc
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We won't get anywhere near North, they will clean us up in the first 15 minutes of the game, they are way to fast for us, they move the ball so quickly and efficiently through the centre it's unreal. Every second entry into their forward line results in a goal and their accuracy is great.
They won the ball out of the centre with amazing ease against Carlton and towled them up in the forward line. They can also run the ball from defense right down to the forwad line without being touched and score at will.
This is a very scary game for us IMO, this could the blow out game of the year, expect a 10-12 goal loss, anything under that would be a bonus.
I hope I am wrong but after watching North over the past few weeks and us......MILES appart!!
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If our side wasn't destroyed by injuries we would be a chance.
Will Ivan get up?
Lets win 3 in a row ::)
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The loss of Foley is what has killed us the last 5 weeks.
Would need a major form reversal by a number of players to get over N0rt sadly
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
Yep I am with you flags!!!!
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as usual the only thing we have to look forward to as supporters is the draft. the draft gives hope even though we know we usually stuff it up. so lets head down the ladder and at least pick up a good kid like Sammy Mayes.
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The loss of Foley is what has killed us the last 5 weeks.
Would need a major form reversal by a number of players to get over N0rt sadly
Major issue is the players haven't the ability to step up
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
Yep I am with you flags!!!!
Yep agreed.
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
Yep I am with you flags!!!!
Yep agreed.
Why not
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
More so if foley doesnt play again.
The best we can do is give.games.to future rfc players
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The loss of Foley is what has killed us the last 5 weeks.
Would need a major form reversal by a number of players to get over N0rt sadly
yep huge loss.
but hey the RFC club broke Axle. :shh
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The loss of Foley is what has killed us the last 5 weeks.
Would need a major form reversal by a number of players to get over N0rt sadly
Major issue is the players haven't the ability to step up
not the ones that have been gifted a game in last fortnight ::)
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best thing we can do now is head down the ladder for better draft selections IMHO.
Yep I am with you flags!!!!
Yep agreed.
Disagree, your all a pack of sooks :'( The club owes it to WAT to come out this week and flog the pants off North :thumbsup
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And we are a good chance to win
Need to fix the forward line up though
Real issue going inside F50 and not kicking enough goals
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And we are a good chance to win
Need to fix the forward line up though
Real issue going inside F50 and not kicking enough goals
Haven't looked like kicking a winning score since the St Kilda game.
Need to play on at all costs like we did yesterday in the third and the first quarter in Adelaide since the malaise has set in. Need to do it for four quarters. Thing is if we do this early we can break Nought as I think they are fragile.
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There needs to be a big in next week and I dare not mention who
WP can do that for me
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And we are a good chance to win
Need to fix the forward line up though
Real issue going inside F50 and not kicking enough goals
There's a reason we cannot kick enough goals Jack, our game plan going inside 50 from a stoppage is to kick it to the boundry to try and force a throw in, in the forward line. And to stop the opposition from rebounding to easily.
Take a look at last weeks game against the Dees, how many leads did jack take out on the boundry?
Another really obvious one was when Jack had the footy from a mark about 55 out from goal (5 mins to go in the first) and Lids was in the goal square one on one. He was pointing to the fat side of the ground but Jack refused to kick it there due to the game plan so Lids lead towards Jack and ended up marking 5 meters in from the boundry about 30 out. Most ridiculas thing i have seen in ages!!! Needless to say Lids missed the goal.
Quater time score 4-6-30 to 1-0-6 game should have been over.
If that is not the most negative way to play footy, i don't know what is??
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Totally agree
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Ziebell suspended for 3 weeks so he'll miss our game. Grima and Wright only copped reprimands.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141617/default.aspx
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With Martin and Jackson back in we should have a better run of it in the middle. They play a very fast moving game which should also suit us. Every team seems to be manning up on us now so we should be developing some strategies to combat this. I also think this is why we are fading as the games progress.
If big Ivan returns we are a slim chance at the MCG. :pray
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There needs to be a big in next week and I dare not mention who
WP can do that for me
:lol :lol :lol
Are we talking about B. Miller ;D
Was going to make a comment the other day but couldnt be botherred but I would think Saturday highlighted why Miller gets games ahead of others. Will leave it at that ;D
Actually think Miller is a good chance to get recalled this week. Outside his 2 goals McGuane did very little especially off the ball
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Thought Maguane's pressure was OK. Certainly offers allot more than Miller in this regard because he is more mobile. Would keep him in.
We are missing Vickery, even while out of form.
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Thought Maguane's pressure was OK. Certainly offers allot more than Miller in this regard because he is more mobile. Would keep him in.
We are missing Vickery, even while out of form.
Luke couldn't chase a few ties when it was needed
Also he gave us nothing when they pinched hit in the ruck. Why they actually did that is another question al together
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There needs to be a big in next week and I dare not mention who
WP can do that for me
:lol :lol :lol
Are we talking about B. Miller ;D
Was going to make a comment the other day bGut couldnt be botherred but I would think Saturday highlighted why Miller gets games ahead of others. Will leave it at that ;D
Actually think Miller is a good chance to get recalled this week. Outside his 2 goals McGuane did very little especially off the ball
Yep
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When Miller comes in, you know the quest for the bottom 4 has begun :clapping
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When Miller comes in, you know the quest for the bottom 4 has begun :clapping
Funny some may say that quest started on Saturday when they played Gus ;D ;D
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Another fake supporter ;D
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When Miller comes in, you know the quest for the bottom 4 has begun :clapping
Funny some may say that quest started on Saturday when they played Gus ;D ;D
On Gus.what an absolute disgrace of a footballer
Would rather Brad anyday
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Miller is also a disgrace. So why play either of them if we have alternatives? Miller is useless, so either keep playing McG (who is a bit less useless) or bring in Elton. No more Miller.
Bring in Ivan and Martin and we'll be looking better.
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I wonder if there is a footballer left in the AFL that has been dropped more times than Brad Miller?
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I wonder if there is a footballer left in the AFL that has been dropped more times than Brad Miller?
tell you someone GENIUS
we were alot better with Brad playing that not.
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I wonder if there is a footballer left in the AFL that has been dropped more times than Brad Miller?
tell you someone GENIUS
we were alot better with Brad playing that not.
You'll tell me someone? Do it then. Who has been dropped more than Brad miller? Have a Melbourne mate that said Miller was dropped at least 15 times as a Melbourne player. He's been dropped around 5 times for us. And you reckon he's the key to a premiership?
He's not the future. He's not the present. Never play him again and delist him at seasons end.
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I wonder if there is a footballer left in the AFL that has been dropped more times than Brad Miller?
tell you someone GENIUS
we were alot better with Brad playing that not.
You'll tell me someone? Do it then. Who has been dropped more than Brad miller? Have a Melbourne mate that said Miller was dropped at least 15 times as a Melbourne player. He's been dropped around 5 times for us. And you reckon he's the key to a premiership?
He's not the future. He's not the present. Never play him again and delist him at seasons end.
I'm not a fan of Luke but he brings more to the table than Miller. He may even prove by years end that he could be a 'Manton' type forward for us into the future. He deserves a chance, Miller has had his last.
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My dead grandmother brings more to the table than Miller. So does Mick Malthouses 3 year old grandchild
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The biggest thing missing as a club is genuine hardness.
Clearly nobody there knows how to instill or cultivate it
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The biggest thing missing as a club is genuine hardness.
Clearly nobody there knows how to instill or cultivate it
Hopefully this week our possible ins are: I Maric, Griff< dusty and jacko
and also batch and newy are right to play
as for outs? i didnt see the game and heard maybe 10 mins of it so i cant really comment but i would guess Angus, A maric and webbs for starters
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please drop derryks too
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My dead grandmother brings more to the table than Miller. So does Mick Malthouses 3 year old grandchild
Thought you were hatched
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jack despite what the club says in public you reckon within the 4 walls of Punt road they might have mothballed the year already?.i mean with all the injuries and then the re development of Punt road oval,and the penalties to martin and connors....just flying a kite here .
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The biggest thing missing as a club is genuine hardness.
Clearly nobody there knows how to instill or cultivate it
Hopefully this week our possible ins are: I Maric, Griff< dusty and jacko
and also batch and newy are right to play
as for outs? i didnt see the game and heard maybe 10 mins of it so i cant really comment but i would guess Angus, A maric and webbs for starters
there's four,shame it's a team game
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There is no depth and the magoos r nothing but draft duds.
Then again,RFC does give guys 6-7 yard to develop
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jack despite what the club says in public you reckon within the 4 walls of Punt road they might have mothballed the year already?.i mean with all the injuries and then the re development of Punt road oval,and the penalties to martin and connors....just flying a kite here .
Think they can win on Saturday .but the 2nd tier players say from 6-12 need to step up
Can't be left to Cotch and Lids each week
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jack despite what the club says in public you reckon within the 4 walls of Punt road they might have mothballed the year already?.i mean with all the injuries and then the re development of Punt road oval,and the penalties to martin and connors....just flying a kite here .
Think they can win on Saturday .but the 2nd tier players say from 6-12 need to step up
Can't be left to Cotch and Lids each week
Hope so we will get flogged by 12 goals.
Was hoping Nought lost Wright and especially Grima also given they lost Ziebell. :help
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Would love to meet you face to face.
LMAO
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where will the weed be on Saturday
in the box or on the air.
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Josef fritel >:(
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:lol
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North are challenging the Ziebell report
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141708/default.aspx
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North are challenging the Ziebell report
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141708/default.aspx
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North are challenging the Ziebell report
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141708/default.aspx
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MRP: "They play Richmond, yup your free to go." :banghead
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North are challenging the Ziebell report
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141708/default.aspx
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MRP: "They play Richmond, yup your free to go." :banghead
Lmao true true
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Preview: Richmond v North Melbourne
By Paul Daffey and Nick Bowen
4:44 PM Tue 17 Jul, 2012
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Sunday, July 22, 3.15pm
LAST TIME: North Melbourne 15.14 (104) d Richmond 13.13 (91), round 24, 2011 at Etihad Stadium
Richmond must win this match to retain its slim hopes of making the top eight. The Tigers are 11th with a 7-8 record, and with seven games to go, they must win at least five. North Melbourne is ninth with an 8-7 record and stands a good chance of entering the eight, and even rising to seventh, if it wins and other results fall its way. While the Tigers are in disgrace after losing to Gold Coast by two points last weekend, the Roos are among the form teams in the competition after victories over Adelaide, St Kilda and Carlton and a narrow loss to West Coast over the past month.
THE FOUR POINTS
RICHMOND
1. The biggest question hovering over Punt Road is how will the Tigers respond to their abject loss last Saturday night. Club bosses have this week put the loss down to a lack of leadership and depth. Senior players will need to step up when the heat's on against the Roos to allay fears about the team's wherewithal.
2. Another big question to arise from the loss concerns the team's stoppages set-ups and its ability to cover opposition forwards when the ball is in the opposition attack. The Tigers were all over the shop in the last minute of the match against the Suns. Several of their mistakes can be put down to inexperience, but coach Damien Hardwick will be eager to show that he can at least get the structural side of things right.
3. It was said at the weekend that the Tigers don't deserve to play in the finals if they're going to lose matches like the one they lost against the Suns. That line will be repeated if they lose against the Roos. Both the Tigers and the Roos went into last weekend's round with 7-7 records. The Tigers need to defeat a team that is around the same mark if they're to be taken seriously as a September candidate.
4. The theory surrounding Richmond's playing stocks is that it needs another key defender. That theory is likely to be tested when the Tiger defenders take on the Roos tall forwards, who were rampant against Carlton last week. Alex Rance is in good form, and might even be among the top three in the best and fairest, but you'd think that Kelvin Moore is still underdone after returning to the seniors last week from a hip injury that had kept him out for more than a season. Ben Griffiths is the other first-choice key defender but he was forced to withdraw last week with a calf injury. The Tigers' need for him to come up is especially pronounced by the news that Jake Batchelor is out with a medial ligament injury.
NORTH MELBOURNE
1. North should know by about quarter-time on Sunday whether victory over Richmond will take it back into the top eight or maybe even into seventh place. The Roos sit ninth on the ladder, one game behind Geelong, which is seventh, and equal on eight wins with eighth-placed St Kilda. Geelong is two percentage points clear of the Roos. St Kilda is almost 13 per cent clear on percentage, but the Saints play the top-of-the-ladder Sydney Swans in Sunday's early game. If Geelong and St Kilda lose - in the Saints' case by a significant margin - and North defeats the Tigers, the Roos will climb to eighth.
2. Will Drew Petrie play? And if he doesn't will North persist with its three-pronged tall attack? Petrie is in doubt after being subbed out of North's 53-point win over Carlton with groin soreness. The Roos are optimistic Petrie will play, but if he doesn't will they bring in another tall such as Aaron Black or Cameron Pedersen to play alongside key forwards Lachlan Hansen and Robbie Tarrant?
3. North's midfield depth will be tested against the Tigers. In Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin, Richmond boasts three of the best young midfielders in the competition, while Shane Tuck, Shaun Grigg and Reece Conca are also valuable contributors. Given the Kangaroos could be without Leigh Adams and Jack Ziebell, they will need players such as Liam Anthony, Ryan Bastinac and, if selected, Ben Cunnington to step up and support Andrew Swallow, Daniel Wells and Brent Harvey.
4. Sunday's match is the only game North will play at the MCG this season, unless it plays a final there. This is the second year running that the Kangaroos' fixture has included just one home and away game at the MCG, with the Roos playing Collingwood in round 16 last year. As recently as 2000 - Etihad Stadium's first year of operation - North played in seven home and away games at the MCG.
AFL.com.au prediction: North Melbourne by 12 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141783/default.aspx
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North are challenging the Ziebell report
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141708/default.aspx
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MRP: "They play Richmond, yup your free to go." :banghead
Lmao true true
It backfired on North and Ziebell is now out for 4 weeks :wallywink although North are threatening to appeal ::)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141790/default.aspx
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Petrie has the Tigers fearing worst
Matt Murnane
The Age
July 18, 2012
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick wasn't just speaking for himself yesterday when he said he hoped Drew Petrie's groin injury would keep the North Melbourne spearhead out of Sunday's crunch game at the MCG.
He was probably thinking aloud for Alex Rance, too.
On the estimation of many commentators, Rance has been the All-Australian full-back of 2012 - so far, at least. As the new leader of the Tigers defence, Rance and his troops have taken on Travis Cloke, Mitch Clark, Tom Hawkins, Josh Kennedy, Michael Hurley, Nick Riewoldt, Matthew Pavlich, Taylor Walker and Lance Franklin - keeping most quiet while one or two have got off the leash.
But it is Petrie that Rance fears the most. ''I actually think Drew Petrie is the hardest key forward to play on,'' he told The Age during the pre-season. ''He has towelled me up the few times I've played on him already so that is one match-up I'm really looking forward to this year.
''He is such a great contested mark. When he gets those long arms up, he just has enormous reach and it's really difficult to get a fist on the ball.''
After 16 rounds fighting the league's best key forwards - and maturing into a premier key defenders - Rance's D-Day with Petrie has arrived, and it could not have come at a more important time for the Tigers.
Having blown four points against Gold Coast, Richmond must win on Sunday to stay in the hunt for finals. If it loses, the road back will be too far to travel.
Hardwick understands the importance of the match-up between Rance and Petrie, pointing out that the Roos veteran has ''done some damage to us before''.
In his two games against Richmond last year, Petrie gave Rance and his defensive allies a torrid time, booting six goals to go with four contested marks and 20 possessions in a North Melbourne victory in round five, and backed up with four goals and eight marks in the final round of the season.
Making matters worse, Petrie is the hottest forward right now. No player has kicked more goals in the past six weeks than Petrie's 16, which includes a match-winning seven-goal haul against Carlton last week.
The 2011 All-Australian is also No. 1 for scoreboard impact in that period, and third for marks for the season.
Unlike in other years, it's not just Petrie that the Tigers have to worry about. The Roos have finally found their marquee man some support, with fellow talls Robbie Tarrant and Lachie Hansen combining for 19 goals and five score assists in the past five matches.
Petrie must get through fitness tests this week before receiving the all clear after straining his groin late in the game last Friday night, but the Roos are optimistic he will play.
''They're tall forwards have been outstanding,'' Hardwick said. ''Petrie we know is a very good player, but the arrival of Tarrant and Hansen, we've certainly got our hands full.
''We think we have the cattle there to marshall those blokes; we just have to stem the flow and their long balls inside 50.''
The Tigers confirmed yesterday that defender Jake Batchelor has slight medial ligament damage in his injured knee and will be out for as many as three weeks.
But Hardwick is confident of getting another key defender, Ben Griffiths, back from injury, and captain Chris Newman is expected to pass a concussion test later this week and will also be named to take on the Kangaroos.
Richmond will have midfielders Dustin Martin and Daniel Jackson available for selection after serving two-game suspensions - Martin's club-imposed and Jackson's for striking.
''We will get four or five guys back from injury this week and that will certainly help us … but this is going to be a big challenge. North are probably the form side of the competition right now,'' Hardwick said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/petrie-has-the-tigers-fearing-worst-20120717-228hx.html#ixzz20u9ZDqzK
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Petrie is so annoying.
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This is North's one and only game at the G this year. Must give us an advantage if our midfield can get on top.
I am prediciting the rise of the Tiger with us winning the next 3 games to rocket back onto finals contention.
Tigers by 19 points.
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Petrie is so strong in the air which is Alex's greatest weakness.
He'll need a lot of help from the third man up which should be Griffiths.
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Petrie won't play and even if he does he won't be 100%. Rance will give him a bath ;)
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Ziebell won't be appealing so he's officially out.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141845/default.aspx
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Ziebell won't be appealing so he's officially out.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141845/default.aspx
Why they challenged it in the first place beggars belief...but that's N0rt ;D
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Happy to beat em by any margin...
I heard they're on 39k for memberships?? Does it count if you sign up brayshaws soiled undies?? :shh
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Ziebell won't be appealing so he's officially out.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141845/default.aspx
what were they going to appeal with?
A packet of twisties
no cash here robbo
stuff em
2 outs with Petrie makes 3, an unsettled line up and at the G. Only reason we would lose this is mentally
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Mental instability is old' friend... I would love for them to shake this off, I don't think it comes with maturity.
Maybe with this years cleanout and new hungry kids we can move forward, just hope they're instilling a no fear approach from the top down :thumbsup
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This is North's one and only game at the G this year. Must give us an advantage if our midfield can get on top.
I am prediciting the rise of the Tiger with us winning the next 3 games to rocket back onto finals contention.
Tigers by 19 points.
interestingly they arent a big tackling side either, so on the wider expanses you never know, we could just pull this one outa nowhere
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Predicting (more hoping) that the Tigers return to real form and we pump North by 62 points - no logic yet just got a funny feeling!
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^ I'm with Big Bear.^
Dunno why either.
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^ I'm with Big Bear.^
Dunno why either.
Maybe 'cause it's the AFL 'Women in Football' Round. A synchronistic ode to the RFC if ever there was one ::)
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they deserve to wear a pink sash
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Predicting (more hoping) that the Tigers return to real form and we pump North by 62 points - no logic yet just got a funny feeling!
It wouldn't surprise me if we did either. Young sides are notorious for huge fluctuations in form at a whim. Like you BPB it's more in hope than anything of substance :-\.
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^ I'm with Big Bear.^
Dunno why either.
Maybe 'cause it's the AFL 'Women in Football' Round. A synchronistic ode the the RFC if ever their was one ::)
:lol
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^ I'm with Big Bear.^
Dunno why either.
Maybe 'cause it's the AFL 'Women in Football' Round. A synchronistic ode the the RFC if ever their was one ::)
:lol
Thanks Daniel :thumbsup BTW I just fixed up the spelling :-[
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Love the Trossman!
We're gonna win this one, lads. I can feel it in my ovaries.
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set up beautifully.
keep putting air in those tyres.
:lol
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North memberships are like haemmoroids eventually every hole gets one for free
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North memberships are like haemmoroids eventually every behindhole gets one for free
hahahahahahahahaha classic
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:lol pay that
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Who's going to the money grabbing BBQ on Sunday?
I heard they got some cheap meat from up North
Bo Derrickx snags
Adam Maric skewers
But I'm dying to try a Dimmer burger
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Who's going to the money grabbing BBQ on Sunday?
I heard they got some cheap meat from up North
Bo Derrickx snags
Adam Maric skewers
But I'm dying to try a Dimmer burger
Were having bbq kangaroo :shh
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I'll wait then and spare the dimmer burgers They're probably gone off by now
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:lol
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Richmond captain Chris Newman believes both the Tigers and Dustin Martin have learned from sleep-ins
By Guy Hand
AAP
July 19, 2012
Richmond captain Chris Newman believes both the Tigers and Dustin Martin have learned from their untimely recent sleep-ins.
Richmond are still smarting from what has been labelled "the worst 47 seconds in footy" after falling asleep late to concede two goals and lose by two points to Gold Coast Suns last weekend.
And star midfielder Martin is preparing to return to action with the Tigers against North Melbourne at the MCG on Sunday after his sleeping pill debacle which led to missing training and a two-match club suspension.
Newman says Martin is "fresh and fit" after missing two matches, and importantly believes the 21-year-old has absorbed the lessons he needed to.
"In his own mind, he knows he's let himself down, and the team comes off the back of that," Newman said on Thursday.
"He's done everything right over the last couple of weeks. He has learned from it, I think.
"It's up to us to get around him, give him a cuddle and get behind him and make sure we play some good footy."
Newman said Martin had been trying to "put his best foot forward" during what's amounted to a mini-pre-season over the past fortnight, including dawn training sessions.
"He gets up nice and early, has some brekky, he's got a nice routine now," Newman said.
"Hopefully he reaps some benefits."
Newman conceded the Tigers must beat in-form North on Sunday, or their finals hopes were done.
He believed the less than satisfactory performance which handed previously winless Gold Coast victory last weekend in Cairns would spur an improved effort against the Kangaroos.
"It's very important (to bounce back). We were very disappointed with our efforts on the weekend," Newman said.
"I was shattered ... we had the game in our hands and let it go.
"It's disappointing to lose at this stage in the season, but it's not the end of this. We've got this week to bounce back."
"We just have to get back on the horse and play some good footy," he said.
Martin and experienced Daniel Jackson, who had been serving a two-match AFL tribunal suspension, are likely to slot straight back into the Tigers side to play North.
The task now is to curb North Melbourne, whose forward line has been in superb touch.
The Roos have beaten Adelaide, St Kilda and Carlton and lost to West Coast by just two points over the past month.
Key forwards Drew Petrie, Lachie Hansen and Robbie Tarrant kicked 12 goals between them during the Roos' 53-point defeat of the Blues last weekend.
Newman described the Roos' forward line as "dynamic", meaning they have a dangerous combination of tall and small forwards.
"They're a really tricky forward line to match up on," he said.
"Their offensive game at the moment is as strong as anyone in the competition.
"They've been pretty good defensively, too.
"We're back in the MCG and after last week we're looking to bounce back with a really strong performance."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/richmond-captain-chris-newman-believes-both-the-tigers-and-dustin-martin-have-learned-from-sleep-ins/story-e6frf3e3-1226429985128
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141969/default.aspx
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RICHMOND v NORTH MELBOURNE
The Age - Match Preview
11th VERSUS 9TH
TOMORROW - MCG, 3.15pm
SELECTION NEWS
RICH: They're all back for the Tigers: Martin and Jackson from suspension, Ivan Maric to add grunt around the stoppages and Miller will slot into centre half-forward but Post was named on the bench, so might not play.
NORTH: Adams is no certainty after the "chicken wing" incident with Judd, even though he was named along with Petrie, who has been under an injury cloud all week. One of Cunnington, Garlett, Pederson or Greenwood will come in to replace the suspended Ziebell.
WHAT HAPPENS IF...
RICHMOND WINS? The Tigers stay in the hunt and could even be equal ninth if results go as expected - St Kilda losing, Fremantle winning. They would then be a big show to rattle off the next three against the Blues, Lions and Dogs despite their season being declared over this week. It's not a total disaster if the Roos lose, as they can hit back quickly in the next two weeks.
NORTH WINS? North could push into the eight and maybe even as high as seventh if the Cats and Saints both fall. It would be the first time since 2008 (the last time they played finals) that the Roos have been in the eight this late in a season. Richmond's season would be on life support if it succumbs. The Tigers know how important this one is.
KEY FACTORS
RICH: Maybe the fact that the Tigers have something close to their best team on the park. The Tigers went from playing the least amount of players early in the season to the most in the past few weeks. If this game was played in May or early June - when the Tigers were settled and winning, while the Roos were only just beating Gold Coast - this game would have been Richmond's to lose.
NORTH: The "low-profile" Roos are usually the difference for North in these games, one way or the other. Adams, Bastinac, McMillan and others have been flying in the past five weeks and North has gone 4-1. Ziebell has also come up huge recently, so his absence is a big blow.
A STAT THAT MATTERS
Look for which team's defence is standing up early. Both clubs have conceded a goal from 28 per cent of opposition inside-50s (ranked bottom four), and both are in the bottom six for conceeding for marks inside 50.
LAST TIME
NORTH MELBOURNE 15.14 (104) d RICHMOND 13.13 (91), Rd 24, 2011, Etihad Stadium.
PREDICTOR
The Tigers have to hit back after the Cairns debacle and have more to lose.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/on-a-platter-20120719-22d6b.html#ixzz215J9tuSd
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No surprise the bookies and 'expert' journos are tipping North ....
Odds (source: TAB Sportsbet)
Richmond $2.15
North Melb. $1.70
Line is 7.5 pts
Media 'expert' tips
Herald-Sun 8 - 22 Jon Ralph, Sam Edmund, Crawf,
The Age 8 - 15 ...... Richo, Caro ad Tim Lane have tipped us.
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The MCG website is saying they are expecting a crowd of 40k on Sunday ....
Event: AFL Round 17
Teams: Richmond v North Melbourne
Date: Sunday July 22, 2012
Start time: 3.15pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 1.00pm
MCC members: 12.30pm
Public tickets:
Reserve seats are on sale now through Ticketek.
General admission seating areas:
Great Southern Stand
M1-M6
P1-P8
Q1-Q15
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57
Ponsford Stand
M28-M33
Q29-Q36
Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
North Melbourne – M33 (Rows A-S)
Car parking - view Yarra Park schedule
Expected attendance: 40,000
MCC Members Reserve:
MCC visitor tickets (four per member) and reserved seats are on sale through Ticketek.
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=8e76cb15-224c-4053-854e-31148abd3acb
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Should be over 40k.
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Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
North Melbourne – M33 (Rows A-Seats 1-3)
Ticketek.
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=8e76cb15-224c-4053-854e-31148abd3acb
Edited for accuracy ;)
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Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
North Melbourne – M33 (Rows A-Seats 1-3)
Ticketek.
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=8e76cb15-224c-4053-854e-31148abd3acb
Ha :rollin
Edited for accuracy ;)
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Who's going to the money grabbing BBQ on Sunday?
I heard they got some cheap meat from up North
Bo Derrickx snags
Adam Maric skewers
But I'm dying to try a Dimmer burger
Were having bbq kangaroo :shh
Tins of pet food on toast ala norfe.
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Norf eating savings brand (bluw and white label) pet food on toast :lol :lol
Using the broken heel of their shoe as a spoon to scrape the inside of the can
Tough lil aussie battlers they are, bend over for Vlad to get happy and give em their soft fraw- could it be anything to do with them not playing finals for a few years now?? :huh ::)
Even if they beat us, which i think they're really good odds to, I will never respect em :wallywink
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VIDEO: Roar Preview Round 17 with Richo and assistant coach Justin Leppitsch ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/470894/default.aspx
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Kangaroo Leigh Adams must pass fitness test to play against Richmond after “chicken wing” tackle
Glenn McFarlane
From: Herald Sun
July 20, 2012 2:45PM
All eyes will be on Kangaroos' key players Drew Petrie and Leigh Adams, and whether they can overcome fitness tests tomorrow to take on Richmond on Sunday.
Insiders believe the club will give them every chance to play in the critical game, but it won’t be a certainty until they head through their paces at Arden St.
Both trained yesterday and did some contesting work before easing off a bit when the real hard stuff started.
Adams spent a little bit of yesterday's session exercising what has been the most talked-about shoulder in Australia this week. Petrie’s groin will be closely monitored.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/kangaroo-leigh-adams-must-pass-fitness-test-to-play-against-richmond-after-chicken-wing-tackle/story-fndm7jib-1226430962540?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunAfl+%28Herald+Sun+|+AFL%29 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/kangaroo-leigh-adams-must-pass-fitness-test-to-play-against-richmond-after-chicken-wing-tackle/story-fndm7jib-1226430962540?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunAfl+%28Herald+Sun+|+AFL%29)
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Kangaroo Leigh Adams must pass fitness test to play against Richmond after “chicken wing” tackle
Glenn McFarlane
From: Herald Sun
July 20, 2012 2:45PM
All eyes will be on Kangaroos' key players Drew Petrie and Leigh Adams, and whether they can overcome fitness tests tomorrow to take on Richmond on Sunday.
Insiders believe the club will give them every chance to play in the critical game, but it won’t be a certainty until they head through their paces at Arden St.
Both trained yesterday and did some contesting work before easing off a bit when the real hard stuff started.
Adams spent a little bit of yesterday's session exercising what has been the most talked-about shoulder in Australia this week. Petrie’s groin will be closely monitored.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/kangaroo-leigh-adams-must-pass-fitness-test-to-play-against-richmond-after-chicken-wing-tackle/story-fndm7jib-1226430962540?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunAfl+%28Herald+Sun+|+AFL%29 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/kangaroo-leigh-adams-must-pass-fitness-test-to-play-against-richmond-after-chicken-wing-tackle/story-fndm7jib-1226430962540?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunAfl+%28Herald+Sun+|+AFL%29)
Even if they play them they will be underdone.
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Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
North Melbourne – M33 (Rows A-Seats 1-3)
Ticketek.
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=8e76cb15-224c-4053-854e-31148abd3acb
Edited for accuracy ;)
Now this is not only funny but clever as well.
:shh
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Cheer squad allocations:
Richmond – M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
North Melbourne – M33 (Rows A-Seats 1-3)
Ticketek.
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=8e76cb15-224c-4053-854e-31148abd3acb
Edited for accuracy ;)
Now this is not only funny but clever as well.
:shh
Gold :cheers
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Roos put aside AFL drama to face Tigers
Greg Buckle
AAP
July 21, 2012
It has been a week of high drama for Richmond and North Melbourne and both teams will relish the chance to get back on the field and be in control of their own destinies.
Skipper Chris Newman concedes Richmond, with a 7-8 win-loss record, can't afford another slip-up at the MCG on Sunday if they hope to make the finals.
The Tigers are smarting over last week's 47-second fadeout as Gold Coast kicked two late goals in Cairns to score their first win of the season.
The Kangaroos (8-7) scored a 53-point win over Carlton last week, however the four-game suspension handed out to Jack Ziebell has caused much debate and prompted a savage outburst from coach Brad Scott.
North have injury clouds hanging over Leigh Adams (shoulder) and Drew Petrie, who booted seven goals in three quarters last week before coming off with a groin injury.
The Kangaroos have recalled midfielder Ben Cunnington for Ziebell.
North backman Michael Firrito says the Tigers will be in a combative mood.
"We lost a similar game against Port Adelaide earlier in the year when we were in front and in a position where you thought you couldn't lose and we did," Firrito told AAP this week.
"So we know they're going to come out firing and they'll throw everything at us.
"They get Dustin Martin and Daniel Jackson back (from suspensions) and big Ivan Maric, so they're three really big key `ins'."
Jayden Post also returns for Richmond.
While ex-Crow Maric has been a hit at Punt Road, the Kangaroos have also been thrilled with Todd Goldstein's form after a slow start to the season.
Key forwards Robbie Tarrant and Lachie Hansen have also been damaging in recent weeks and they could be called upon to play more important roles if Petrie is a late withdrawal.
"They've been really good for us. Since that Hawthorn game (which North lost by 115 points in round 10), they've probably been the main difference in our side.
"For so long it's been going to Drew and numbers will get back on top of him.
"But now sides really have to look after Lachie Hansen and Robbie Tarrant. They've both bobbed up and kicked bags in the last few weeks."
Since a bye in round 12, North have won four times and lost to West Coast by two points.
"We're confident and we're playing good footy," 185-game veteran Firrito said.
"But we're fully aware of the meaning of this game. Richmond will come at us a hundred miles an hour and we'll look to meet them head-on."
Firrito said having Nathan Grima fit and in form was a big factor.
"He's a very important player for us," Firrito said.
"They've got Jack Riewoldt and Luke McGuane who are big targets down there for Richmond so he (Grima) will have his work cut out again."
Firrito said teenager Shaun Atley's pace had added a new dimension to North's defence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/14321684/roos-put-aside-afl-drama-to-face-tigers/
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Hate the Northern Beggars lets hope we SMASH
ingrates.
especially that SMUG Brayshaw. :gotigers
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They're naming goal post cameras after the last Post
Camera Jayden
just heard it on the Maggie Hawks game
He's off to Adelaide next year is the big rumour at Coburg today
Leppitch told me it was a misprint or error on the naming of Pia to play against the poos tomorrow
He was NEver selected
I was suprised
RoyFromCoburg
RFC
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Roos put aside AFL drama to face Tigers
Greg Buckle
AAP
July 21, 2012
It has been a week of high drama for Richmond and North Melbourne and both teams will relish the chance to get back on the field and be in control of their own destinies.
Skipper Chris Newman concedes Richmond, with a 7-8 win-loss record, can't afford another slip-up at the MCG on Sunday if they hope to make the finals.
The Tigers are smarting over last week's 47-second fadeout as Gold Coast kicked two late goals in Cairns to score their first win of the season.
The Kangaroos (8-7) scored a 53-point win over Carlton last week, however the four-game suspension handed out to Jack Ziebell has caused much debate and prompted a savage outburst from coach Brad Scott.
North have injury clouds hanging over Leigh Adams (shoulder) and Drew Petrie, who booted seven goals in three quarters last week before coming off with a groin injury.
The Kangaroos have recalled midfielder Ben Cunnington for Ziebell.
North backman Michael Firrito says the Tigers will be in a combative mood.
"We lost a similar game against Port Adelaide earlier in the year when we were in front and in a position where you thought you couldn't lose and we did," Firrito told AAP this week.
"So we know they're going to come out firing and they'll throw everything at us.
"They get Dustin Martin and Daniel Jackson back (from suspensions) and big Ivan Maric, so they're three really big key `ins'."
Jayden Post also returns for Richmond.
While ex-Crow Maric has been a hit at Punt Road, the Kangaroos have also been thrilled with Todd Goldstein's form after a slow start to the season.
Key forwards Robbie Tarrant and Lachie Hansen have also been damaging in recent weeks and they could be called upon to play more important roles if Petrie is a late withdrawal.
"They've been really good for us. Since that Hawthorn game (which North lost by 115 points in round 10), they've probably been the main difference in our side.
"For so long it's been going to Drew and numbers will get back on top of him.
"But now sides really have to look after Lachie Hansen and Robbie Tarrant. They've both bobbed up and kicked bags in the last few weeks."
Since a bye in round 12, North have won four times and lost to West Coast by two points.
"We're confident and we're playing good footy," 185-game veteran Firrito said.
"But we're fully aware of the meaning of this game. Richmond will come at us a hundred miles an hour and we'll look to meet them head-on."
Firrito said having Nathan Grima fit and in form was a big factor.
"He's a very important player for us," Firrito said.
"They've got Jack Riewoldt and Luke McGuane who are big targets down there for Richmond so he (Grima) will have his work cut out again."
Firrito said teenager Shaun Atley's pace had added a new dimension to North's defence.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/14321684/roos-put-aside-afl-drama-to-face-tigers/
Dramas lol?
What drama queens!
Be a Tiger and then see what drama is!
Making out North are the poor underdog.
Farkin media!
CRUSH THIS MOB LIKE INSECTS!!!!!!!
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The betting money is starting to swing our way (from Sportal)...
The Tigers have firmed from $2.25 to $2.15 in head-to-head betting at TAB Sportsbet, with the Roos easing from $1.65 to $1.70.
North Melbourne are also $1.70 at tomwaterhouse.com, where the Tigers are at $2.16.
At both sportsbet.com.au and Centrebet, the Tigers are $2.20, compared to the Roos at $1.69 and $1.67 respectively.
Centrebet's Michael Felgate and TAB Sportsbet's Adam Hamilton have both reported good support all week for Richmond despite last week's humiliation.
The Tigers have been heavily backed at the line, including one bet of $30,000 at TAB Sportsbet on the Tigers at $1.90 with a 7.5-point start, and that option has now firmed into $1.80.
http://www.sportal.com.au/bz-opinion-display/tigers-well-backed-to-topple-north-188442
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Must beat these beggars, please :pray
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Petrie and Adams both trained yesterday although Adams apparently didn't do any contact work apparently. So out of the two it looks like only Adams is any chance of missing although he may still play. So if we beat North today they've got no excuse to whinge about injuries.
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Petrie and Adams both trained yesterday although Adams apparently didn't do any contact work apparently. So out of the two it looks like only Adams is any chance of missing although he may still play. So if we beat North today they've got no excuse to whinge about injuries.
Hope Rancey cleans up Petrie and he gets subbed. :D
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The only north supporter I know was and probably still is a two faced lying clam with a huge sense of entitlement. Like the shiftiness of Carlton mixed in with the arrogance of Veruca Salt.
If we win I will feel ecstatic knowing he is in pain.
C'mon lads do it for Dooks :clapping
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Last 9 inside 50's in the first quarter to North. More panic from our guys
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Norf are dogs!
Umpire favouring them.
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Umpiring might change if we were harder at the ball
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tuff guys these north scum. three onto 1 and punching a bloke while hes on the ground.
doesnt that just sum up that low life club
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Umpiring might change if we were harder at the ball
Yep, especially in our f50
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:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Absolutely zero composure under pressure.
Dunno what Jack has to do to get a kick. Thompson is all over him
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Getting beaten on the spread by North's midfield
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Why is there never a player deep in the goal square?
Get a centre clearence for God's sake!!!
It's us against north/umpires at the minute!!!
Jack couldn't even buy a free kick for 1 million dollars.
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Another 2nd qtr down the toilet
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Delidio's payout on the maggot didn't help. This team needs to learn some discipline under pressure.
Reckon they also need Plan B for pressure situations. The long kick along the boundary line to create a stoppage.
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Reiwoldt is getting raped. Umpires are blind!!!!
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Umpires should be looking over their shoulders when they go to their cars been bloody disgraceful , then again so have we
More wasted opportunities in front of goal
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Umpires/Afl giving the Aussie meat one last go before they fold! No supporters and actually a real joke of a club. Only 2 down and everything against us including ourselves, just win this ffs
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new coaching director of umpires.
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I would trade Riewoldt for a box of dirty hair. Nothing but a lazy show pony. Get a sprint coach and try to learn a few more tricks. Tired of watching the same rubbish week in and week out.
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North are doing a good job of shutting down our space and stopping our run off the back line.
As usual our delivery into the forward 50 is shocking. However Jack has had a number of one-out contests with Thompson, but the North player is winning against him. Not always within the rules as I know them though.
They are beating us on the spread when they have the ball. Our half towards are just not in the game. Nahas missing. Titch missing. Mini-Maric missing. Resting mid missing.
Mullet getting a bath from Goldstein.
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Rance has stood up today it's a pity the umpires haven't lived up to the contest
Jack need to remain focused on the game
outside players need to work harder
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I would trade Riewoldt for a box of dirty hair. Nothing but a lazy show pony. Get a sprint coach and try to learn a few more tricks. Tired of watching the same rubbish week in and week out.
let's hope he makes you eat your words Hank. :thumbsup
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A decent quarter from jack thus far hes good when he leads to the ball
Edit : Still is not having a great day though overall
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This is the Riewoldt I want to see every week. Busy on the lead. Looks like a different player and could kick a bag.
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If anyone thinks the umpires are not conspiring to screw us over this game has to convince them
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Dropping chest marks across the half back line - Tuck.
What's wrong with a long kick along the line?
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Is it just me or are the umps killing us with inconsistent decisions. 50 against Dusty was a joke, Cotch deliberate. Just seems like they sweat on every opportunity to blow the whistle against us.
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The commentators on Fox were giving it to the umpires, usually they play the neutral. They were trying to cruel our flow but they have failed, if we hold our discipline we can win this and hopefully see these two corrupt bastards sacked.
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Umpire 24 has NFI. He panics as badly as our players do!
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Is it just me or are the umps killing us with inconsistent decisions. 50 against Dusty was a joke, Cotch deliberate. Just seems like they sweat on every opportunity to blow the whistle against us.
Been just as many stinkers against north.
One of their deliberates was an absolute disgrace.
Lmao at earlier Maric holding the ball not given.
Umpires just been so bad
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Have really liked Post today, just needs more composure/confidence when disposing. Would almost swap him with mcguane in the last qtr as his reading of the play may help
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The difference is they don't pay us any if front of goal or 50s like they are going out of fashion
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Fat lady is coming out we were killed by Petrie single handed argggh
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Petrie and the umpiring bs would of rolled them if it wasn't for the 5 bs free goals they got in the first half
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and thats all she wrote
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It's over, I hear the singing
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Down on skills and run today. Too many missed targets.
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well bugger me its still on lol
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Great final quarter by Tucky
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We would of won that game if it wasn't for poo umpiring, that was total rape.
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Missed some goals should have got eg Jackson
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stuffing hell this club is just like having a good looking wife you are guaranteed to have a emotional rollercoaster ride and many sleepless nights ...
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Another DIShonourable loss
I'm over these girls
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Had the chance at the boundary throw-in. Mullet to Griggs, miss. It had to be a goal.
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Pathetic. Effort counts for nothing if you don't get the win. Mcguane gave Petrie a goal then has his clearing kick smothered. Sorry Dimma, but moving him back to defense was a terrible move. One that cost us.
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I know we lost, but stuff me we had a good hard crack at it. Unfortunately, we are still carrying a few players who try hard but just aren't up to it (McGuane, Dea). Newman picked a bad year to be off his game. Still need another 4 quality player in the line-up including some class and poise up forward and some improved disposal in the back half.
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North smothers cost us a number of times today. They were better at the desperate acts. They wanted the win more and they had slightly fresher legs.
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Tried hard but not enough polish when it counted. Start sending those that need it to get their operations done to the hospital and begin the dive down where the better draft picks lay.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
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time to go dimma cant coach but good bloke
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We lost it in the selection box again
Sack Dimwits who play hole Maric The Phantom OHanlon and the Last Post
Get rid of the train wreck coach
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Reece Conca needs to think about his footy ATM. He is playing like a number 55 pick in a National Draft and not a top 10 first rounder. Getting it and kicking it anywhere is not the way a polished footballer plays. Needs to seriously lift does Reece.
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Reece Conca needs to think about his footy ATM. He is playing like a number 55 pick in a National Draft and not a top 10 first rounder. Getting it and kicking it anywhere is not the way a polished footballer plays. Needs to seriously lift does Reece.
He is still only 19 years old.
Give him time.
:thumbsup
Next year it will be time to make Cotch captain.
:cheers
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Yep, Flags, we need a tall backman, tall forward and upgrades on Nahas, Mini-Maric and one of Jacko or Titch.
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Just left the ground. I am gutted by the loss but at least we didn't throw the towel in. Macca move down back failed. Post showed a bit today. The umpiring was inconsistent at best. Cotch deliberate out of bounds when he actually stopped the ball from going out was a howler. Did Jack get caught shagging the umpires wife during the week? Not sure what you guys think but Ivan looks tired. But he gives it all and without him we are stuffed.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Yep, Flags, we need a tall backman, tall forward and upgrades on Nahas, Mini-Maric and one of Jacko or Titch.
We also need another ruckman to give Maric an opportunity to rest during a game or atleast send one of them back to play infront of a gorilla like Petrie for example.
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If the youth worker is not sacked we can kiss another ten years goodbye
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If the youth worker is not sacked we can kiss another ten years goodbye
Thought you were going to give up on the club?
:yep
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Not sure what you guys think but Ivan looks tired. But he gives it all and without him we are stuffed.
Ivan is carrying a groin injury, GR 12. Could hardly raise a jog at training in Cairns. Titch also looks like he's carrying a groin injury.
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Anyone who is injured now should be put out for the season and we should start preparing for 2013. That is if the world doesnt end of December 21. ;D
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Anyone who is injured now should be put out for the season and we should start preparing for 2013. That is if the world doesnt end of December 21. ;D
Yes starting with big Ivan.
We will need to make a decision on Graham and Browne at the end of the year.
Play them and tell them their postion on the list relies on how many players they can hurt without getting suspended.
:cheers
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Umpiring, a disgace in q2 against us and q4 for us, jack look great when he lead and poo when he wrestles, tucky , cotch , ivan, lids , rance all good, nahas continued efforts fantastic, dusty good, BOG cotch, a lot of +ves, main -ve, we lost
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Got nothing to do with culture don't you know that Ramps.
In 30 years of rubbish the reason of our continual failure is culture.
You want to build culture within a club then explain how Jackson is still on the leadership group and Newman is still captain
The most useless pair going around
Next year no guarantee for finals then what. Another coach gone.
Facts are our club has a loser mentality
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Agree with Owl, totally raped by umpire McBurney and his swinging half brothers Potsy and Slim.
That being said we played very ordinary.
Post was ok (a nice suprise).
Time to put all players with niggles in for operations and play whats left for development.
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Pathetic. Effort counts for nothing if you don't get the win. Mcguane gave Petrie a goal then has his clearing kick smothered. Sorry Dimma, but moving him back to defense was a terrible move. One that cost us.
Yeah but Petrie was killing Rance at the start of the fourth". We need a tall defender, I've said it all along. Post could have made the difference if he'd grown up this year. But he didn't and we don't have a half back tall. Maybe griffiths will come good. Other than that we were pretty even. Their defense was better than ours and could cover our forwards. We also need vickers back and in form or find another tall forward, jack isn't big enough to be that monster target you need with the bomb it in fast game everyone is playing these days.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Yep, Flags, we need a tall backman, tall forward and upgrades on Nahas, Mini-Maric and one of Jacko or Titch.
Did you see Nahas in the fourth and late third. He was playing excellently, you need glasses.
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If Chris Newman wasnt the captain hed be playing at Coburg. He has been terrible this year- lost his form completely. Houli been average as well. Jackson is still wasting everyones time and McGuane lol ... no wonder we cant make finals.
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If Chris Newman wasnt the captain hed be playing at Coburg. He has been terrible this year- lost his form completely.
Until I see him wearing a Coburg jumper il be convinced we are going backwards
He offers nothing but misery to supporters
In fact il go as far to say his the first person I want delisted
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
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If the youth worker is not sacked we can kiss another ten years goodbye
Grind grind your axe, it's blunt.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Yep, Flags, we need a tall backman, tall forward and upgrades on Nahas, Mini-Maric and one of Jacko or Titch.
as well as a backup ruck man for Ivan and a replacement for Foley.
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Lots of reasons why we didnt win today. But I thought Grigg should of kicked that goal. Great downward tap to him by Ivan.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
No axe to grind with anyone. The results are we are an unsuccessful club that doesnt even make finals. Its the administrations role to create the environment for success. They havent done it. You talk about money and spending more. Our club will turnover how many millions this year? 50 million - the players get $8 million that means $42 million gets spent elsewhere. If they cant get a team to the eight spending 40 million bucks + then whats there to say. Failuire is Failure. And we have failed again in 2012.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
Hahaha yeah every other club has struggled to haven't they
Excuses excuses and more excuses. Heard the same ones about depth, coaches etc etc for 30 yrs
Face facts we are a rabble of an organisation only surviving due to idiots like us pouring money into it
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our biggest weakness is psychological
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Did you see Nahas in the fourth and late third. He was playing excellently, you need glasses.
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Yeah, I squinted really tightly through my coke-bottle lenses and manipulated the magnifying lense on my telescope to see the screen and saw the same old Nahas. Fumbling, one-sided, too easily pushed out of the contest and missing tackles. We need an upgrade on him.
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First and foremost gutted and shattered.
Played poorly how we were 12 down at the half is beyond me but how they were 12 up beggars belief also. No wait two dubious 50's.
McBurney is a dog. How can Jack get scragged like that and then the ump from 100 metres away make the call. McBurney is a piece of dog poo that has turned white on the nature strip. Old crusty and no longer stinky. Should be retired.
Yes we miss another tall defender. Only consolation if I can call it that was McGuane isn't that and he MUST be moved on. Brain fade galore. No one to guard Petrie. Gee we miss Grimes.
To add insult to injury from my last point why can't that last snap fall to Lids Cotch or Dusty. Nope McGuane who also missed from 10 in the third.
Post was okay. Took some nice marks.
Cotch was inspirational in the 2nd and kept us in the game.
Lids worked his way into the third and got us in front.
Nought's two goals in the third Moore having lost touch being out of the game for so long getting tackled and J Mac kicking a fluke goal that if it needed another two hundred metres to bounce we all know where it would have still ended up.
Last quarter was just a shootout between Petrie and us. Tuck first then Nahas then they hung on for dear life and we just couldn't get a clear chance other than the one that if you asked the opposition who you want to get it or us who you didn't want to get it that's who ended up with it.
Just as a side note was Leigh Adams carrying a dislocated shoulder or was it by play by Nought to make the Judd incident seem more worse than reality only for them to cry fowl on Ziebell. ::)
The way Nought made out you'd think Adams shoulder needed a reco and his arm needed to be amputated from the elbow doen because of gangrine.
All in all it adds up to the perfect weekend for them which they will patent with loads of Skataboner Spirit with all the guts and nerve of a quality side that never says die as they like to parade themselves to be only for us to be the "unlucky, undeserving and yet silly" loser that all the footy public seem to think we are. Galling isn't it. That's why I'm guttted.
Time to rest the boys who need opps and get them right in time for pre season and use the trade draft period to delist a few and bolster our stocks with replacements that will add to our quality and depth and make us more competitive that will give us the class and composure to win these close games rather than lose these close ones after getting to the well getting the water and not having the drink that our performance have shown we have deserved this year.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
Yep, Flags, we need a tall backman, tall forward and upgrades on Nahas, Mini-Maric and one of Jacko or Titch.
as well as a backup ruck man for Ivan and a replacement for Foley.
Two quality mids trade for a ruckman. Hille needs a fresh start. We can't do worse. He has lost all confidence at Ess with Ryder and Bellchambers in favour. May come cheap. Can pinch hit up forward too.
Another tall defender. We need upgrades on Houli Jako Titch King may be gone. I thought Nahas was great today. McGuane White Graham/ Browne.
Houli needs to mark ball not go outstretched with one hand trying to mark balls like that.
32 MINUTES IN WHEN ITS YOUR TURN TO GO YOU MARK IT AND GO. LAST HURRAH.
Need an upgrade on Newman. Guy is just a plodder now and opp players are reading him. I haven't seen so many smothers of his boot compared to other players in general and very open play.
Missed Griff/ Grimes today. Just a galling lost that once again exposed the inadequacies and ineptitude of our list once we scrape the cream from the top.
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Sad but true.
Newman looked old,slow and the guy Nought wanted to make the calls.
He should be dropped.
Season is over and has been for weeks now,anyway.
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Lots of reasons why we didnt win today. But I thought Grigg should of kicked that goal. Great downward tap to him by Ivan.
He's a lefty and he got it to his left so a pity.
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This is the Riewoldt I want to see every week. Busy on the lead. Looks like a different player and could kick a bag.
I am sure he will try and please you dufus
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We won't get anywhere near North, they will clean us up in the first 15 minutes of the game, they are way to fast for us, they move the ball so quickly and efficiently through the centre it's unreal. Every second entry into their forward line results in a goal and their accuracy is great.
They won the ball out of the centre with amazing ease against Carlton and towled them up in the forward line. They can also run the ball from defense right down to the forwad line without being touched and score at will.
This is a very scary game for us IMO, this could the blow out game of the year, expect a 10-12 goal loss, anything under that would be a bonus.
I hope I am wrong but after watching North over the past few weeks and us......MILES appart!!
What happened to your amazing powers of foretelling WAT
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
Hahaha yeah every other club has struggled to haven't they
Excuses excuses and more excuses. Heard the same ones about depth, coaches etc etc for 30 yrs
Face facts we are a rabble of an organisation only surviving due to idiots like us pouring money into it
Just got home
Not many back at Social Club
We havent imoroved . :banghead
IF , we have improved, so have other clubs so , what do we do ?
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
Hahaha yeah every other club has struggled to haven't they
Excuses excuses and more excuses. Heard the same ones about depth, coaches etc etc for 30 yrs
Face facts we are a rabble of an organisation only surviving due to idiots like us pouring money into it
Just got home
Not many back at Social Club
We havent imoroved . :banghead
IF , we have improved, so have other clubs so , what do we do ?
Moron.
You can stuff off as well.
:lol
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Cant believe he is back again how many times is that 50 or so.
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
Hahaha yeah every other club has struggled to haven't they
Excuses excuses and more excuses. Heard the same ones about depth, coaches etc etc for 30 yrs
Face facts we are a rabble of an organisation only surviving due to idiots like us pouring money into it
Just got home
Not many back at Social Club
We havent imoroved . :banghead
IF , we have improved, so have other clubs so , what do we do ?
correct
same old spuds on the list and same old result. No finals.
Writing was on the wall against Freo but the bright sparks said on here, blamed it on the umps and weather.
When we make finals il say we have improved. I dont measure improvement on getting close to a win
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Sack the youth worker and get Mick ASAP we will be rabble forever otherwise
It's a no brainer we need a coach with nous experience and a winning mentality
Rahul Dravid may as well be coaching rfc because DimWit has no player respect
All the guys are right about Captain Oldman was finished last season but still leads the club
He is now Dyer Tripe and another symptom of the last 30years
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We have a losing culture and its a very hard habit to break. Rance and Deledio were excellent. Rance got unlucky in the last when Petrie got on a roll but both boys were terrific IMHO. Still we have 2 many players who are very average.
It's hard to turn over a list and develop a new one with compromised drafts. It's got nothing to do with culture, it's got to do with the amount of money we can spend on an ongoing basis to recruit better players and develop players better.
Sounds to me you have an axe to grind about the current admin if your banging on about culture. What have they done to you?
Hahaha yeah every other club has struggled to haven't they
Excuses excuses and more excuses. Heard the same ones about depth, coaches etc etc for 30 yrs
Face facts we are a rabble of an organisation only surviving due to idiots like us pouring money into it
Just got home
Not many back at Social Club
We havent imoroved . :banghead
IF , we have improved, so have other clubs so , what do we do ?
correct
same old spuds on the list and same old result. No finals.
Writing was on the wall against Freo but the bright sparks said on here, blamed it on the umps and weather.
When we make finals il say we have improved. I dont measure improvement on getting close to a win
Looks like lots of psters are getting lucky tonight.
Daniel, go to your room. (and get stuffed)
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Take it easy 65 we all need to vent in some way.
Whilst the world aint perfect no reason for anyone not to speak their mind.
We are all frustrated.
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Sack the youth worker and get Mick ASAP we will be rabble forever otherwise
It's a no brainer we need a coach with nous experience and a winning mentality
Rahul Dravid may as well be coaching rfc because DimWit has no player respect
All the guys are right about Captain Oldman was finished last season but still leads the club
He is now Dyer Tripe and another symptom of the last 30years
the players are playing for Hardwick. they are breaking their balls but they arent good enough. Its not just the coach our problem is our bottom 6 or 7 players on the field shouldnt be playing.
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Sack the youth worker and get Mick ASAP we will be rabble forever otherwise
It's a no brainer we need a coach with nous experience and a winning mentality
Rahul Dravid may as well be coaching rfc because DimWit has no player respect
All the guys are right about Captain Oldman was finished last season but still leads the club
He is now Dyer Tripe and another symptom of the last 30years
think your clutching at straws, he aint going nowhere and MM wont coach anywhere. His finished
Dimma will see out another year and if in 12 months we are in the same position then it might be the end for him
As for Newman to even call him a captain is laughable. He should take the jumper off now to the coach and retire
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I felt humiliated watching under privileged North supporters all laughing at us
This has to stop mickie is the man
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We lose because some players just dont go hard enough & hack the ball when in possession. The players looked slow at times. The season is over, so get your boats ready because thier is nothing to enjoy after watching that mistake riddled game. That game was our for the taking.
Next week we better tbeat that scum pack otherwise l will crack :banghead
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I felt humiliated watching under privileged North supporters all laughing at us
This has to stop mickie is the man
I feel humilated that you are a fellow supporter you flog
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I am as gutted as any Tigers supporter however sometimes i think we cant see the forest for the trees. The transformation of the list that Hardwick inherited from Wallet has almost amounted to the equivalent of us entering the competition as a new franchise, only the difference being that we haven't benefited from a multitude of early picks that GC and GWS have been provided. As a result the rebuild has to use astute recruiting and hope that other recruits already in the squad lift to another level. I think when we take the enormity of the task into consideration i really see the glass half full rather than half empty. Yes to most it the initial understandable reaction is another season failed for the Tigers and if finals alone is the KPI of a fail or pass season then i agree we have failed again. But just putting into perspective the player turnover i think we can only improve from here especially taking into account we have another clean out of deadwood coming and a further influx of some hopefully quality recruits. Looking back on yet another season of missed opportunities I still feel positive enough to say the future is still looking bright.
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So Chuck, I assume you are happy seeing Riewoldt sit in the goal square, not leading or offering anything... Interesting - doofus.
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We will only become better when we delete Coburg from our club & have a standalone VFL side.
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We will only become better when we delete Coburg from our club & have a standalone VFL side.
Rewoldt is a disgrace, constantly sitting behind players & not leading.
Cost us the game when he crashed the pack mid wing & had no chance of taking the grab. result was a goal to North.
l hate Jack Rewoldt's guts
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Chuck go and have a suck
And keep walking with blinkers you useless individual who has accepted 30 yrs of constant poo jabbing
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We will only become better when we delete Coburg from our club & have a standalone VFL side.
Rewoldt is a disgrace, constantly sitting behind players & not leading.
Cost us the game when he crashed the pack mid wing & had no chance of taking the grab. result was a goal to North.
l hate Jack Rewoldt's guts
"i hate Jack Reiwoldts guts" that statement says alot. :birthday
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Don't think we should use Newman as a scape goat. Still in our best 22. Captain needs to be with Trent if we are going to take next step. Is he ready? Maybe Lids gets it. We need to move on from that era though.
Facts are when you have half the list not worthy of any other club you're not going to be able to count on talent to get you over the line which is what wins you he close games. How many games have we lost under 2 goals? How many have we lost from a winnable position? Nearly every loss ticks one of those boxes.
The list is still light years away. Finals would have been great and looking back we have fluffed an opportunity to play an Elim final, but regardless we wouldn't have gone very far.
Still need to delist and move on a qtr of the list.
Nahas is slowly edging closer to that list. I think we could get a juicy 2nd rounder for Robin. Can see someone like Geelong or Collingwood taking Nahas. Pick in the 20s would go nicely IMO.
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We will only become better when we delete Coburg from our club & have a standalone VFL side.
disagree. we will only become a top side when we have enough decent cattle to become one. not there yet but heading in the right direction
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So Chuck, I assume you are happy seeing Riewoldt sit in the goal square, not leading or offering anything... Interesting - doofus.
Been trying to tell that peanut that reiwoldt has been lazy and not doing his job sitting in the goalsquare trying to wrestle instead of getting on his bike and leading out to make our midfielders jobs easier as well. Reiwoldt has turned from a dynamic matchwinner to a sooky whinny little bitch that sits on his arse all game and looks at the umpires for free kicks after every single contest. Even the commentators have started to pick up on it - The triple M team including nathan brown were calling him a sook. But no, we're not allowed to have a go at our players..
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Another game where leaders need to stand up, another game Newman goes missing.
Its insane the amount of goals we gift our opponents week in week out. If we cut out those school boy errors we'd absolutely flog sides. Watched the replay, the 3 50's, the stupid Kel Moore freekick, the 2 arsey goals that bounced through for them, the amount we missed, geeez dont know if we'll ever learn bc we sure as hell arent learning on the job this season! each week its the same type of loss
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Campbells goal to get Nought to 17.
Geez Houli sometimes waits for the ball rather than running to it. >:(
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The list has improved enormously since the Wallace era. Ivan and Morris both filled critical list deficiencies in ruck and small defensive categories this year. We have been in a position to win most games. Suggestions that our list isn't good enough to play finals is a grand coverup for a flailing coaching department that hasn't improved one bit.
If we had an experienced coach like Malthouse in charge, we would have won a lot of those close games this year and would be playing finals. Its unbelievable that we had no strategy in place to combat Gold Coast last week. Against north, we were completely out coached in the last quarter.
The question supporters should be asking is. Why has the club entrusted the future success of the greatest football club in the history of the game to an amateur who has cracked in just about every close game this year? What will it take for them to acknowledge their mistake and get Mick Malthouse to the club where he belongs?
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Just saw the replay. Grigg kicks a drop punt rather than kicking round his body who knows...... :-\
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Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
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Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
yeah tell me about it, still shows that some supporters out there think a waive of the wand can magically turn things to gold. Im as frustrated as anybody but fact is we are trending upwards and until that stagnates Im right behind our coach. If at this time next season we are in this position then legitimate questions need to be asked
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One thing I'd like to see Jack do.
Look at the 3rd quarter. Leading. Kicked two goals and had 4 shots. We also looked good in that quarter too.
Whilst we all acknowledge the officiating was once again sub standard if Jack looks to use his natural pace and high spring to attack and lead to the ball rather than trying to wrestle and whine for frees then I am sure he will be a much more considtent and better player for us.
Get back to his breakthrough best of 2010 by looking at the videos of how he played. It's not advanced physics and calculus mathematics.
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One thing I'd like to see Jack do.
Look at the 3rd quarter. Leading. Kicked two goals and had 4 shots. We also looked good in that quarter too.
Whilst we all acknowledge the officiating was once again sub standard if Jack looks to use his natural pace and high spring to attack and lead to the ball rather than trying to wrestle and whine for frees then I am sure he will be a much more considtent and better player for us.
Get back to his breakthrough best of 2010 by looking at the videos of how he played. It's not advanced physics and calculus mathematics.
He stuffing poos me plain and simple, bc when he plays like the 3rd qtr he is one of the best and most dynamic players in the comp, poos all over every fwd bar Buddy and even then gives him a run imho, problem is why the hell he doesnt do that? why is his arse firmly planted to the square most of the time? Its just doesnt make any sense to me. Is it laziness, is it the coaching instructions? is it lack of fitness? All i know is if he plays like he did in the 3rd qtr for 80% of games instead of 10-120% hed kick a bag every week
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Jack should be played as a chf not as a bludger in the goal square
Coaches fault not telling him to move up and make a contest
Dimwit can't coach He's to stagnant with ideas and not smart enough to make match winning moves
Just sits around hoping it will work out
We could have won every game this year since we've been in every contest so at worst win half but the Dimwit has been out coached every time
He must go because he's been unwatchable and he will waste another year
Make him Coburgs coachwood he can coach all the clowns he's picked up in the last three drafts
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Whats houli story?
10 touches
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As poor as the umpiring was, we lost because we got beaten at the centre clearances, had too many brainfades, made sub-AFL standard schoolboy mistakes, missed gettable set shots and for periods of the game a lack of intensity at the footy compared to North and didn't adhere to basic footy strategy.
Brainfades:
1. A.Maric in defensive 50 kicking straight to a North player between two Tigers setting up their first goal.
2. Tuck grabbing ball out of the 'ruck' = another North goal.
3. Newy having a kick smothered playing on from the kick-in. North goal.
4. Two 50m penalties in a minute (one of them Lids mouthing off at ump. Allegedly telling him "oh get #$%@") = two North goals
5. Moore not being aware Petrie was right behind him = North goal.
6. Nahas and Tuck both not laying a hand on a North player running out of defence. Rebound goal to North.
7. McGuane slinging Petrie out of the way when Petrie wouldn't have got hands to the marking contest. Goal to North.
8. Cotch's kick to Matt Campbell = Goal to North.
So that's 8 gifted goals just there. Half North's tally.
Then add the 5 missed gettable shots in a row in the 2nd quarter (Cotch, Dusty, McGuane and Jacko twice) and McGaune missing from 12m out in the 3rd :P.
Then add up all the poor disposal where we missed open targets by foot all day under no physical pressure which AFL standard footballers should not stuff up that often. It would've gifted North a few more goals from turnovers or at least broken down our ability to get some overlap going depriving us of goal opportunities.
Then add the number of times we had not one midfielder running hard to the fat side as we came out of defence down one-side. It meant our half-backs had to stop and wait for enough numbers to move across to the wing slowing the play and allowing North to get numbers into defensive positions further upfield.
Our small forwards especially in the first half kept dragging themselves and their opponents to the marking contest rather than being front and square for the spill.
Although it didn't cost us any goals thankfully, Richmond players still don't understand the rushed behind rule. It's not the time to hold a committee meeting on what to do with the footy :help.
There were also a few times we kept the ball in from going over the boundary for a throw-in even though we were outnumbered which allowed North to gain possession and go into attack. Dumb dumb dumb. Not playing the percentages where a gain in field position would've been a win for us anyhow.
Plenty of things for Dimma and the coaching staff to bring up and go through with the players in the review today. It's mostly dumb stuff that we need to weed out for us to become a genuine finals side and contender in the next couple of years.
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Geez Houli sometimes waits for the ball rather than running to it. >:(
Gee last 30 seconds the perfect example
He puts his body rather than his arm on the line and he cops a "Zieball" I reckon probably gets 50 and we get a shot at goal.
Just saw the replay. Grigg kicks a drop punt rather than kicking round his body who knows...... :-\
Just so many "what ifs" in this game
Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
Yep - the most consistnet thing at the RFC over the last 20 odd years = supporters blaming the coach rather than blaming players making dumb decisions. No one can tell me that any coach at any club is to blame for players giving away stupid inexcusable 50 metre penalties
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At least he put his arm on the line. One body part per year. in 2029 we might just see Houli go in for the hard ball :clapping
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Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
We did so well without Sheedy coaching us through the 90s. Was a roaring success.... Great example.
Lets blame the players. Its not like at an AFL level, a coach can have any impact in player recruitment, match day selection, positional placement, game day strategy etc etc. Scott didn't just televise that they were going to go isolate Petrie one out at the start of the last quarter and Petrie didn't kick 7 goals. It was really all the players fault.
Nope the coach has no impact on the result. Lets just put bambi there instead. Recipe for success.
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At least he put his arm on the line. One body part per year. in 2029 we might just see Houli go in for the hard ball :clapping
:lol
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Whats houli story?
10 touches
Average Player IMHO who we should try and trade to GWS for a pick. Does GWS have any concession picks in 2013. 2013 looking like a great draft and much better than this next one coming up in November.
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Houli will play even worse this month he will be lacking energy bc it's the fasting month of Ramadan
The pet will still get a game
Mrs houli sends Taboulli to the DimSim family every Thursday night which happens to be selection night
Hird was on the money getting rid of the brown nose
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Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
We did so well without Sheedy coaching us through the 90s. Was a roaring success.... Great example.
Lets blame the players. Its not like at an AFL level, a coach can have any impact in player recruitment, match day selection, positional placement, game day strategy etc etc. Scott didn't just televise that they were going to go isolate Petrie one out at the start of the last quarter and Petrie didn't kick 7 goals. It was really all the players fault.
Nope the coach has no impact on the result. Lets just put bambi there instead. Recipe for success.
I'm not calling for Hardwicks head. That will come in 12 months if we are in the same boat but you have to admit Dimma had no answer for Scott isolating Petrie in the square
Where was Dimma's moves regarding Jack. Clubs have worked out deny Jack room in the F50 so he cant lead into space.
Tucker i ask you this. How can you get in a winning position in all of what 6 games yet lose them all. Where is his Plan B??
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
Put a player or two back? But a 7 point lead is not enough to do that and if we had of done it then we would not have worked our way back into the game.
I believe the damage was done earlier. Petrie was having a dog of a day, then he was gifted to free kicks from us which resulted in goals. This has lifted him. Without the gift goals, he may have continued to have had a dog of a day!
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Oh this Malthouse talk. Reminds me of this Sheedy talk in the 90's. :help
We did so well without Sheedy coaching us through the 90s. Was a roaring success.... Great example.
Lets blame the players. Its not like at an AFL level, a coach can have any impact in player recruitment, match day selection, positional placement, game day strategy etc etc. Scott didn't just televise that they were going to go isolate Petrie one out at the start of the last quarter and Petrie didn't kick 7 goals. It was really all the players fault.
Nope the coach has no impact on the result. Lets just put bambi there instead. Recipe for success.
I'm not calling for Hardwicks head. That will come in 12 months if we are in the same boat but you have to admit Dimma had no answer for Scott isolating Petrie in the square
Where was Dimma's moves regarding Jack. Clubs have worked out deny Jack room in the F50 so he cant lead into space.
Tucker i ask you this. How can you get in a winning position in all of what 6 games yet lose them all. Where is his Plan B??
Think Jack had about 5 frees not paid yesterday . . . was continually violated by n0rt players and those fairies kept waving their arms in the air . . . most frustrating thing to watch behind them never pinging n0rt player for throwing the ball as opposed to handballing it.
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
Maybe the same thing that got us into the winning position in other games
When we were winning remember where Maric was?? thats right plugging holes and taking benny gale type marks in the D50.
Like i said i'm yet to see a Plan B when we get tested.
Would've even tried Rance up forward in the last
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
Maybe the same thing that got us into the winning position in other games
When we were winning remember where Maric was?? thats right plugging holes and taking benny gale type marks in the D50.
Like i said i'm yet to see a Plan B when we get tested.
Would've even tried Rance up forward in the last
Hence, we need another ruckman to help out Maric.
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
Maybe the same thing that got us into the winning position in other games
When we were winning remember where Maric was?? thats right plugging holes and taking benny gale type marks in the D50.
Like i said i'm yet to see a Plan B when we get tested.
Would've even tried Rance up forward in the last
the difference is that in the last petrie was isolated one out deep in the forward line, that was not hapening early on.
it is all so simple, untill you actually think about it.
early on maric didnt have to venture into the forward line to take ruck contests, allowing him to sit back behind the play. now we have no one to take the ruck duties in the forward line.
maric cannot get from a ruck contest up the ground as quick as the ball is moved, so even without a dodgy groin, we was never going to be able to get back to help out rance in those one on one contests deep in forward line.
scott made a tactical change that exploited petries height advantage, and the only options to counter it were to play two men on petrie the whole time or move someone like mcguane onto him.
both options have severe faults.
bottom line is there was not really another option option to play on petrie.
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Poor skill errors and turnovers,stupid free kicks killed us in the last qtr.Rance,Conca,Cotch all turning it over and resulting in goals for North.Martin in the last qtr had the chance to square up the ball and kicked to Jack who had 3 players on himHe's one on one effort with a North player in the last 5 mins of the game wasn't good enough on the boundary line to.We tend to do this to much still go to Jack when it's the wrong option.After Petrie kicked his second goal Hardwick should have doubled teamed Petrie or loose man in defence like teams do to Jack.North did yesterday to Jack.All he did was put on Mcgaune on him which was worse.
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Yesterday's game reminded me so much of our Rd 17 2001 game against the Dogs.
Could've gone either way considering both teas were seen to be jostling for positions in the 8.
We won that night and got a double chance. Dogs lost and slumped away.
I can see Nought given their soft draw playing Melb GWS and the Dogs not missing out now whereas we could fall right away and win just 1 or 2 more.
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what should have been done to curb petrie in the last?
Maybe the same thing that got us into the winning position in other games
When we were winning remember where Maric was?? thats right plugging holes and taking benny gale type marks in the D50.
Like i said i'm yet to see a Plan B when we get tested.
Would've even tried Rance up forward in the last
the difference is that in the last petrie was isolated one out deep in the forward line, that was not hapening early on.
it is all so simple, untill you actually think about it.
early on maric didnt have to venture into the forward line to take ruck contests, allowing him to sit back behind the play. now we have no one to take the ruck duties in the forward line.
maric cannot get from a ruck contest up the ground as quick as the ball is moved, so even without a dodgy groin, we was never going to be able to get back to help out rance in those one on one contests deep in forward line.
scott made a tactical change that exploited petries height advantage, and the only options to counter it were to play two men on petrie the whole time or move someone like mcguane onto him.
both options have severe faults.
bottom line is there was not really another option option to play on petrie.
i was thinking abt this last night whilst watching scott choke in the open,they were going to petrie at all costs, i wouldve made one of the talls the free 3rd man not newman or any other short/mid sized player, mcguane or post on him with rance 3rd up or vice versa (except mcguane, he too dumb on field to play the free man. Iwouldnt have worried abt any other tall fwd option bc they were like us in that they exclusively looked for one target.
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surprised no one mentions the lack of defence from the mids when north got a run on
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surprised no one mentions the lack of defence from the mids when north got a run on
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bc it wasnt the midfields fault, we were playing loose man/men in defence, North chose to play their loose man/men around the stoppages instead, happens everyweek in most games until one side gives... It was a structural thing our coaching staff vs theirs both persisted with their own philosophy - in the end they came out on top
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Oh well, wasn't as bad as I thought it was going be..
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Oh well, wasn't as bad as I thought it was going be..
Any excuses?
;D
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Oh well, wasn't as bad as I thought it was going be..
Any excuses?
;D
Yeah, for once, the bloody umpires were shocking.... ;)
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and B.Scott)
Richmond v North Melbourne
9 Drew Petrie (NM)
9 Andrew Swallow (NM)
5 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
3 Steven Morris (Rich)
2 Scott Thompson (NM)
1 Brett Deledio (Rich)
1 Brent Harvey (NM)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/142451/default.aspx
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Dimmer needs a coach to help her
Choker at critical time
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what sort of primary school teacher allows their students to be on the internet during class time?
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Houli will play even worse this month he will be lacking energy bc it's the fasting month of Ramadan
The pet will still get a game
Mrs houli sends Taboulli to the DimSim family every Thursday night which happens to be selection night
Hird was on the money getting rid of the brown nose
:lol
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Houli will play even worse this month he will be lacking energy bc it's the fasting month of Ramadan
The pet will still get a game
Mrs houli sends Taboulli to the DimSim family every Thursday night which happens to be selection night
Hird was on the money getting rid of the brown nose
:lol
Il pay that too. hahaha
FWIW fasting is only during daylight hours so Houli should at least lay 1 tackle this week as its a night game.
Week after and any other day/twighlight game, Houli doesnt eat all day until the end of the match