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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on August 27, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
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The year of the Brownlow Tiger is 2012.
T Cotchin will poll 3 votes from Fri night and take an unassailable lead in this years Brownlow.
Bookmark it.
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Tuck was the player the age picked to list in their 5 players of the round poll. Cotchin is great but only 10 wins . Has anyone done a breakdown, game by game?
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The year of the Brownlow Tiger is 2012.
T Cotchin will poll 3 votes from Fri night and take an unassailable lead in this years Brownlow.
Bookmark it.
Why so certain?
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Hopefully it will compliment jack's Coleman. :gotigers
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
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Tuck was the player the age picked to list in their 5 players of the round poll. Cotchin is great but only 10 wins . Has anyone done a breakdown, game by game?
What's wins got to do with it seriously?
GC have only won 3 games but Ablett Jnr will poll votes without any problems
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Tuck was the player the age picked to list in their 5 players of the round poll. Cotchin is great but only 10 wins . Has anyone done a breakdown, game by game?
What's wins got to do with it seriously?
GC have only won 3 games but Ablett Jnr will poll votes without any problems
He will still poll well, correct. I reckon though, had GC won closer to 11 games, then Ablett would be a dead set certainty, hence people placing the emphasis on our wins ;)
Cotchin should be fine, last years voting showed the umpires take notice of him. :thumbsup :pray
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Heres the breakdown...
rd 1 carlton ...27 disp 2 goals
rd 2 coll ....26 disp
rd 3 melb...22 disp 3 goals
rd 4 geel...24 disp
rd 5 WCE...29 disp
rd 6 port...18 disp
rd 7 syd..27 disp
rd 8 ess... 29 disp 3 goals ( won medal for bog)
rd 9 haw...31 disp
rd 10 st kil..29 disp
rd 11 freo ...30 disp
rd 12 GWS ...25 disp
rd 14 adel...25 disp
rd 15 melb...28 disp
rd 16 GC....38 disp
rd 17 North....24 disp
rd 18 carl....24 disp 3 goals
rd 19 bris...21 disp
rd 20 WB ...35 disp 3 goals
rd 21 freo..32 disp
rd 22 es...31 disp
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In my free time :o I've had a look at the first 11 rounds based on disposals and the all important/relevant AFL Dream Team Points ;D
Round Cotchin Competing Players Stripes Prediction
1 - Carlton 27 Disposals (120 DT) Murphy (116), Judd (93) 1 Vote/ 1 Vote
2 - Collingwood 26 Disposals (88 DT Points) Lids 35 (140), Rance 34 (138), Swan 32 (116) 0 Vote/ 1 Vote
3 - Melbourne 22 (110) Tuck 30 (146), Grigg 37 (142), Conca 29 (134) Lids 27 (111) 3 Vote/ 4 Votes
4 - Geelong 24 (105) Selwood 27 (130), Taylor 29 (115), Tuck 27 (113), Bartel (108) 0 Vote/ 4 Votes
5 - West Coast 29 (110) Foley 27 (109), Lids 26 (101) 2 Votes / 6 Votes
6 - Port 18 (67) Lids 24 (107), Maric 20 (124), Tuck 28 (102) 0 Votes/ 6 Votes
7 - Sydney 27 (96) Grigg 25 (114), Lids 25 (104), Maric 17 (102) 1 Vote/ 7 Votes
8 - Essendon 29 (143) Lids 35 (160), Watson 30 (134), Stanton 29 (124) 3 Votes/ 10 Votes
9 - Hawks 31(113) Tuck 35 (152), Lids 32 (141), Jack 16(135), Foley 27(125), Maric 18 (122) 2 Votes/12 Votes
10 - Saints 29 (97) Jack 20 (147), Maric 20(116), Lids 29 (102) 1 Vote/ 13 Votes
11 - Fremantle 30 (112) de Boer 29 (147), Tuck 29(124), Pavlich 17 (107) 1 Vote/ 14 Votes
Now statistic are rarely a reliable guide for the Charlie but I have Cotch on 14 Votes by round 11.Swan won with 34 votes last year :-\ Lids, Maric and Jack would have pinched a few away from him but, even though he has consistent superior numbers, Tuck is unlikely to poll to high.
Unless someone else wants to have a crack at it, I'll try and do the last half of the season later.
Cheers :cheers
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mat - just got in before me :banghead :thumbsup
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
I got him at $51 ;D
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
I got him at $51 ;D
You bastard. I had the option of getting Cotch or Dusty at $51 and I flipped a coin and went with Dusty.
Fml
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Round Cotchin Competing Players Stripes Prediction
12 - GWS 25 Disposals (87 DT) Lids 30 (108), Tuck 34 (106), Maric 16(113) 2 Vote/ 16 Votes
14 - Adelaide 25 Disposals (111 DT Points) Thompson 32 (128), Maric 17(122), Lids 29 (115) 2 Vote/ 18 Votes
15 - Melbourne 28 (106) Grigg 35 (123), Tuck 35 (117) Lids 23 (105) 3 Votes/ 21 Votes
16 - Gold Coast 38 (137) Lids 36(141) Ablett 33 (128), Jack 16(112) 3 Vote/ 24 Votes
17 - Nth Melb 24 (101) Petrie 13(128), Anthony 26(113), Havey 24 (106) 0 Votes / 24 Votes
18 - Carlton 24 (114) Murphy 33(113), McLean 27 (120), 2 Votes/ 26 Votes
19 - Lions 21 (103) Lids 25 (126), Grigg 26 (115), Maric 16 (121) 1 Vote/ 27 Votes
20 - Western Bulldogs 35 (152) Lids 31 (121), Grigg 27 (122), Jack 20 (116) 3 Votes/ 30 Votes
21 - Fremantle 32(101) Mundy 32 (130), Duffield 25 (113), Ballantyne 24(105), 0 Votes/30 Votes
22 - Essendon 31 (145) Lids 33 (117), Martin 25(119), Tuck 33 (131) 3 Votes/ 33 Votes
23 - Port Power ???? ????? ? Vote/ 33-36 Votes
I tried to be as conservative as possible. At the very least Cotch will be in the place getters. The two factors going against Cotch is our loses and lids taking votes off him. Other than these two I'm starting to feel more confident. :pray :cheers
Cheers :cheers
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36 votes and he will cream it!!!!
20 - 25 votes would be a more Conservative amount ;)
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Guys,
Here is the logic (and thanks to Stripes because it is there for all to see from a stats perspective) but he has the raw numbers in possessions to be prominent as a mid
Cotch is the stand out player in our side (think Crawford in 1999)
Cotch polls well - 16 votes last year
Cotch is playing in a team that will poll in most games this year - we have won 10 - 11 games and been up to our neck in pretty much every other game
We have had 6 games with wins more than 6 goals which pretty much guarantees us the 1,2,3 in each of those games
Cotch is in the top 5 in the comp for avg frees for - umps love chimp.
The danger is Sam Mitchell.
Abletts side was obliterated in too many games
Swans missed too many games
Beams is an unknown quantity
Jibes team has been uncompetitive for 10 weeks.
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
I got him at $51 ;D
Same :cheers
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Cotch won't win.
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Cotch won't win.
>:(
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Cotch won't win.
Yes he will :shh
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No he won't..
Just to pee you guys off. No collecting at the TAB.
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brief discussion on SEN about potentials for the brownlow, Harf made a good point about Dayne Beams
Has had a ripper of a season in a "winning"team 15 games so far and has kicked plenty of goals.
Reckons both Chimp and Jobe will miss out due to win/loss ratio which is not really fair however thats how they roll ::)
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brief discussion on SEN about potentials for the brownlow, Harf made a good point about Dayne Beams
Has had a ripper of a season in a "winning"team 15 games so far and has kicked plenty of goals.
Reckons both Chimp and Jobe will miss out due to win/loss ratio which is not really fair however thats how they roll ::)
I don't believe Cotch will poll 3 votes in every game by any stretch but most of our games have been close (as yeloowandblack said) and he has typically been the standout player on the field so you would expect that he polls 1 or 2 at least for each of these games. The really close affair such as the GC, Carlton and Essendon games he was clearly the best afield even though we lost - these will be the interesting votes for mine.
I think he has a real chance of coming home like a storm and over taking Watson. :thumbsup
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I think he has about 22-24 votes at the moment. Needs a good last round performance.
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Will be surprised if Cotchin wins.
By my reckoning he will poll between 16 and 19 votes at the most.
Deledio, Grigg and Co will also attract some votes to.
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The BOG stats gets you noticed - but there is one important factor that everyone seems to forget every year - that is the Umpires!
3 Umpires per game, 8 games per round, so many different interpretations, who in the wide wide world of sport knows what these attention seeking, power hungry little men will do with their votes.
By this criteria - I think that there are only a few in the race - ball winners that don't talk or react to the umpires:
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I don't think there have been the standout players in the comp this year so I don't reckon you will need as many votes as in previous seasons to win it. Cotch's 2nd half of the season has been much stronger than his 1st so if he is thereabouts at Round 12 then I would expect him to give it a big shake.
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Frees for 49
Frees against 16
:-* Charlie
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Will be surprised if Cotchin wins.
By my reckoning he will poll between 16 and 19 votes at the most.
Deledio, Grigg and Co will also attract some votes to.
He polled 16 last year, he's panels ahead this season and so are we as a team :o
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
I got him at $51 ;D
Same :cheers
I keep reading this, I'd be interested to know where you got $51, I was shopping around in Feb and the best I got was $31 on Centrebet. I only had a fiver on him, geez wish I loaded up! I think Deledio will be the only thing between him and a Brownlow.
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Cotch into $4.50
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
I got him at $51 ;D
Same :cheers
I keep reading this, I'd be interested to know where you got $51, I was shopping around in Feb and the best I got was $31 on Centrebet. I only had a fiver on him, geez wish I loaded up! I think Deledio will be the only thing between him and a Brownlow.
Just the Tab - might have been Jan or Feb but def before NAB cup
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Someone is going to have to poll well for the swans and for the crows. He will have a fair bit of competition. Anybody know who though? Ted Richards? Scott Thompson?
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Someone is going to have to poll well for the swans and for the crows. He will have a fair bit of competition. Anybody know who though? Ted Richards? Scott Thompson?
Josh P Kennedy.
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Someone is going to have to poll well for the swans and for the crows. He will have a fair bit of competition. Anybody know who though? Ted Richards? Scott Thompson?
Josh P Kennedy.
I'm not sure if JPK is much of a brownlow " bay city roller".
Swans will share it around like Mariah Carey at a rappers party
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Adelaide will have Thompson and Dangerfield taking votes off each other.
Beams might be a big chance actually. If be polls well early then he may have enough legs to fall over the line at the end.
I hope Cotch spends all day winning the footy and kicking down to Jack - kill two birds with one stone! ;D
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Put your hard earned on Cotch tonight, by Monday he will be outright favourite :thumbsup
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Hard to see Watson getting any votes tonight. Swan (41), Beams, Pendlebury with 30+ possies and Cloke with 5 goals.
Hopefully Stripes you're right about Thompson and Dangerfield taking votes off each other. Likewise hopefully the Hawks take votes off each other especially Mitchell who usually polls well.
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Cotch would have got the 3 votes yesterday. A draw means all players judged purely on their game which Cotch was clearly the best. Every time he gets the ball he makes something happen. Houli was great early and Jack good in front of goal. Boak gained a lot of possessions but didn't do a lot with them.
On the flip side Dangerfield would have polled well in the Adelaide game and Beams had a reasonable game. Dangerfield could be the smokey this year. Watson will have polled brilliantly early and then hope he can hang on as the others race home.
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Cotch would have got the 3 votes yesterday.
Don't think so going by the dumb free's port were getting.
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Umps should give 3 votes to Ebert as compensation for robbing him of his second goal.
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3 votes for cotch
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cotchin into equal favourite on sportsbet
Trent Cotchin 4.00
Gary Ablett 4.00
Jobe Watson 6.00
Patrick Dangerfield 8.00
Scott Thompson(Adel) 9.00
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Dangerfield is the big threat imo
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What date is the bum low on?
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Monday before the Grand Final normally.
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Monday before the Grand Final normally.
Can't wait that long.
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If Cotch wins the Brownlow we'll be the first club to have both the Coleman and Brownlow medal winners (different players) in 27 years. In 1985, Brad Hardie and Simon Beasley won the double for the Dogs, while Tony Lockett won both medals in the same year in 1987 when he was with the Saints.
http://www.sportal.com.au/bz-opinion-display/could-richmond-take-home-both-medals-196725
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He's equal favourite now, he won't win.
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He's equal favourite now, he won't win.
He will, one gorilla pays back 4 times. Count em on homers hand
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at least Trent did everything he could with his natural ability this year...unlike Jak -Defaultman medalist
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"The two greatest words in the English language - De Fault" by H Simpson
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Cotch is still equal favourite with Ablett....
http://www.centrebet.com/brownlow-medal-betting
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal
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Cotch is still equal favourite with Ablett....
http://www.centrebet.com/brownlow-medal-betting (http://www.centrebet.com/brownlow-medal-betting)
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal (http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-brownlow-medal)
Why is Swallow at $51 at centrebet and $251 at sportsbet given North played finals and he is the highest odds player for North?
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The AFL website has a Brownlow predictor going. They've done the first six rounds and have Josh Kennedy leading with 13 votes. Cotch, Lids and Grigg all have just 3 votes each.
http://www.afl.com.au/Finals/BrownlowTracker/tabid/18408/Default.aspx?cid=aflpromo_button
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Sounds about right. Cotch will poll better in the back half of the season but will it be enough?
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Ablett should be the outright favourite with Thompson & Watson second. :'(
Interesting that they only had Cotch down for 3. :huh He was awarded the best on ground for the Dreamtime game so there's 3 votes alone. Throw in the Melbourne game, West coast (best afield in a tight contest) and many other games where he was in the best despite losing and will likely pinch a couple of 2s or 1s. Think he should be double that at least by the end of round 6. :pray
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The AFL website has a Brownlow predictor going. They've done the first six rounds and have Josh Kennedy leading with 13 votes. Cotch, Lids and Grigg all have just 3 votes each.
http://www.afl.com.au/Finals/BrownlowTracker/tabid/18408/Default.aspx?cid=aflpromo_button
After 12 rounds Scott Thompson is on 19. Danger field hasn't stolen many votes unlike the collingwood spread. Thompson is looking pretty good.
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The AFL website has a Brownlow predictor going. They've done the first six rounds and have Josh Kennedy leading with 13 votes. Cotch, Lids and Grigg all have just 3 votes each.
http://www.afl.com.au/Finals/BrownlowTracker/tabid/18408/Default.aspx?cid=aflpromo_button
After 12 rounds Scott Thompson is on 19. Danger field hasn't stolen many votes unlike the collingwood spread. Thompson is looking pretty good.
They had Cotch down for 12 votes (I had him down for 14 fwiw) after 12 rounds. His second half of the season was much better than his first so expect him to poll around 20 votes for rounds 13 - 23.
Thompson is looking dangerous but Dangerfield steps up in the second half which hopefully takes votes off him. :pray ;D
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
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this season was the stepping stone for CHIMP to
let the football know he has arrived.
this medal has lost its appeal i reckon over the last
few years.
with so many awards now its just another piece
to hang around ones neck.
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
Think he was just asking if you would see it as a failure or not if he didn't win it :cheers
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
Think he was just asking if you would see it as a failure or not if he didn't win it :cheers
He was having a go at me for comments I made in the Edwards thread.
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Everybody calm down pleez
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Everybody calm down pleez
:lol
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
Dont twist his comments, he asked you not said you said it. Idiot
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
Dont twist his comments, he asked you not said you said it. Idiot
Finally some sanity ;D
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Should be interesting. I just hope it doesn't turn out like usual and Cotch gets no where near it.. :-\
Why would it matter? if he doesn't finish top for does that mean his season was a fail in your eyes?
God you are an inbicile...
:huh :huh :huh
Well where the hell did I even mention that Cotch's season would be a failure, just a stupid comment. So don't act all...WTF!
Dont twist his comments, he asked you not said you said it. Idiot
Finally some sanity ;D
Yeahright! :whistle
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Everybody calm down pleez. I won't tell you all again.
Getting sick and tired of all the infighting...... :banghead
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According to the guy from tab.com.au tonight on Ch7, Cotch and Ablett are equal favourites at $3.50 with Watson next at $6.
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The Brownlow predictor on the AFL website has Cotch with 12 votes after round 12 behind Scott Thompson on 19 votes.
http://www.afl.com.au/Finals/FinalsEvents/BrownlowMedal/BrownlowTracker/tabid/18408/Default.aspx?cid=aflpromo_button
19 S.Thompson
14 Watson, Ablett
13 Kennedy, Pendlebury, Stanton
12 Cotchin, Hayes
11 Dangerfield
10 Boyd
As for Richmond they have after 12 rounds:
12 Cotchin
9 Deledio
5 Maric
4 Riewoldt
3 Foley, Grigg
2 Grimes, Edwards
1 Tuck, Nahas
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A blogger by the name of shjross has gone through each game and reckons Cotch will get 26 votes which was enough votes to win 5 of the last 10 Brownlows.
http://sjhross.com/2012/09/17/can-cotchin-win-chas-definitely-maybe/
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The Herald-Sun Brownlow predictor has Cotch finishing with 21 votes.
G.Ablett 26
S.Thompson 25
J.Watson 23
P.Dangerfield 23
JP.Kennedy 23
D.Swan 22
T.Cotchin 21
J.Selwood 21
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/brownlow
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My pet brownlow octopuss picked cotchin to win
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My pet brownlow octopuss picked cotchin to win
If he doesn't your octopus gets crumbed
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According to Centrebet (Source: Herald-Sun)
Gary Ablett, Gold Coast. $3.50
Trent Cotchin, Richmond. $4.50
Jobe Watson, Essendon. $5.50
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According to Centrebet (Source: Herald-Sun)
Gary Ablett, Gold Coast. $3.50
Trent Cotchin, Richmond. $4.50
Jobe Watson, Essendon. $5.50
The reason I stopped watching the Brownlow Medal night for years was that Richmond got pumped in so many games, that I didn't want to hear our opponents names being called out for 3, 2 and 1 votes round after round. By this logic, how can Gary Ablett POSSIBLY be the favourite when GC hardly won a game all year?
GO COTCH :thumbsup
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By this logic, how can Gary Ablett POSSIBLY be the favourite when GC hardly won a game all year?
Because the media love Jnr and they know the umpires love Jnr too and both are seduced by statistics
Understand your logic though :thumbsup
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By this logic, how can Gary Ablett POSSIBLY be the favourite when GC hardly won a game all year?
Because the media love Jnr and they know the umpires love Jnr too and both are seduced by statistics
Understand your logic though :thumbsup
Thats dead right and a real shame too!!
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Historically, sides that get blown away have no chance of registering votes, and GC suffered some pretty heavy losses this season. Conversely, sides that get beaten by a small margin have a good chance of sneaking a few votes even in a loss. As we not only got our win tally up to 10 and a half this year, but lost many games by less than a kick or two and were never demolished, I think Cotch has every chance of polling well.
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Historically, sides that get blown away have no chance of registering votes, and GC suffered some pretty heavy losses this season. Conversely, sides that get beaten by a small margin have a good chance of sneaking a few votes even in a loss. As we not only got our win tally up to 10 and a half this year, but lost many games by less than a kick or two and were never demolished, I think Cotch has every chance of polling well.
He should poll very well and I hope the hell he wins, but there is the "Ablett" factor in there from the umpires. The media and umpires are consumed by him.
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we will no cotchins fate early ablett had 40+ touches first 3 games and they got pumped if he pulls the 3's for all of them then i'd say he could be home, cotchin will come home as hard lets hope he can make up the ground
GO U TIGERS
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Cold Ghost lost 9 games this year by more than 10 goals, including a 126 point loss and 4 losses by over 90 points. If Gary Ablett polls votes in ANY of those results, then the voting system is a complete sham.
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Can Cotchin break Richmond’s drought?
By Michael Rogers and Bradley Dawson
Thursday, September 20, 2012
Source: BigPond Sport
Only four Richmond players have ever won the coveted award, with the last being Ian Stewart in 1971, but Cotchin is easily the best chance of bringing Charlie to Punt Road since Kevin Bartlett dominated the MCG wing. The future Richmond captain was amongst the most influential players in at least 10 games this season, starring in the midfield and bagging 21 goals when pushed forward.
Historically, umpires also tend to notice certain players for more than just their on-field deeds. Where once blond shocks of hair made Peter Moore, Shane Crawford and Shane Woewodin stand out, Cotchin grabs the eye with his unique, hunched running style.
But is Cotchin’s form only relative? While the Tigers improved significantly, they still have a fairly shallow playing list which drops away after their core of stars, making Cotchin appear even better – perhaps better than he actually was.
http://www.bigpondsport.com/who-will-win-the-brownlow-medal/tabid/91/newsid/95620/default.aspx
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Cold Ghost lost 9 games this year by more than 10 goals, including a 126 point loss and 4 losses by over 90 points. If Gary Ablett polls votes in ANY of those results, then the voting system is a complete sham.
You only working that out now? ;D
GC's results are not relevant when it comes to Jnr being loved by the umps and media.
Equates to exception to rule is G Ablett Jnr
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Barrett interviewed this punter called Sean Brady who apparently has won millions betting on the Brownlow in the past and that major betting firms now prevent from betting in large sums with them. Anyway this guy is backing Cotch to win the Brownlow on Monday night with Watson the only other one who can win it in his opinion if Cotch doesn't. He said Ablett can't win it.
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Barrett interviewed this punter called Sean Brady who apparently has won millions betting on the Brownlow in the past and that major betting firms now prevent from betting in large sums with them. Anyway this guy is backing Cotch to win the Brownlow on Monday night with Watson the only other one who can win it in his opinion if Cotch doesn't. He said Ablett can't win it.
He also got it wrong last year.
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Barrett interviewed this punter called Sean Brady who apparently has won millions betting on the Brownlow in the past and that major betting firms now prevent from betting in large sums with them. Anyway this guy is backing Cotch to win the Brownlow on Monday night with Watson the only other one who can win it in his opinion if Cotch doesn't. He said Ablett can't win it.
He also got it wrong last year.
I'm extremely hopeful that Cotch gets the Charlie though I'm starting to think I may add to my bet and have a quite flutter on Mitchell and Thompson to hedge my bets :juggle
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I would call Ablett a Brownlow specialist the way he racks up so many possessions in Junk time and can handle the footy 15 times with the end result being a minor score or an OOTF.
Also I suspect the AFL & The Dman would be rapt if the Brownlow were to head North and further justify their decision to expand the game nationally, but maybe I'm being a little paranoid. ;)
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Tab.com.au on Ch 7 tonight had Cotch and Ablett equal favourites at $3.50. There has been a big betting plunge on Sam Mitchell who has come into $9.
The Centrebet guy earlier said Ablett had drifted out a smidge and Cotch had come in to equal favoritism as well at $4.
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Dangerfield wins the Brownlow! At least we think so ...
The Age
September 20, 2012
Based on the results of the 3AW, Age and AFL Coaches Association awards, we've come up with our prediction for this year's top ten at the 2012 Brownlow Medal.
theage.com.au predictions:
1. Patrick Dangerfield 31 (could poll in 15 games)
2. Jobe Watson 29 from 13
3. Sam Mitchell 26 from 13
4. Dayne Beans 25 from 12
eq 5. Josh Kennedy 24 from 9
eq 5. Trent Cotchin 24 from 11
eq 5. Gary Ablett 24 from 12
eq 5. Scott Thompson 24 from 10
9. Joel Selwood 22 from 10
10. Matthew Pavlich 22 from 8
Trent Cotchin $3.50:
(Round - votes) 5-2, 7-3, 9-3, 12-1, 16-3, 17-1, 18-2, 20-3, 21-2, 22-1, 23-3.
24 votes from 11 games
The smooth-moving Tiger star is one of the few 'new breed' chances who has a history with the umps - he polled a highly encouraging 15 votes last year. A huge chance to snare the three vote-winning games necessary to getting a big total. If he wins three instead of lesser votes during his brilliant finish to the season, he could make the Tiger army very happy.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brownlow-medal/dangerfield-wins-the-brownlow-at-least-we-think-so--20120920-2692f.html
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Remember when Cambo was hyped up as Brownlow favourite
How did he end up going, think he got about 12 votes Lmao
Chimp will win one but not this year
As long as the bald gimp, chipscab beams and dangershank don't win idgaf
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Remember when Cambo was hyped up as Brownlow favourite
How did he end up going, think he got about 12 votes Lmao
Chimp will win one but not this year
As long as the bald gimp, chipscab beams and dangershank don't win idgaf
Campbell should've won it in 95
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According to the ABC, Cotchin is now $3.75 outright favourite. Ablett is next on $4.50.
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In the past 10 years, how many times has the favourite got up?
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In the past 10 years, how many times has the favourite got up?
Never Big man, Never :clapping
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In the past 10 years, how many times has the favourite got up?
Never Big man, Never :clapping
You serious?
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Winner of the umps award or not. Cotchin is everyone's favourite. 8)
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In the past 10 years, how many times has the favourite got up?
Never Big man, Never :clapping
You serious?
Well sort of ;D
2000....favourite Kouta winner Woewodin
2001. Cousin. Akermanis
2002. Darcy. Black
2003. Wanganeen Goodes, Buckley, Riccuito
2004. Tredrea. Judd
2005. Cousins. Cousins
2006. Goodes. Goodes
2007. Ablett. Bartell
2008. Ablett Harvey. Cooney
2009. Ablett Swan. Ablett. (swan didnt even make top 10)
2010. Swan (shortest odds in Brownlow history) Judd
2011. Judd Goodes. Swan
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Ch 7 news had Ablett favourite so we don't have to worry about that stat ;D.
Cotch isn't going tomorrow night expecting to win. He reckons he'll be the flop of the Brownlow.
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The AFL website's predictor has Cotch finishing second to Scott Thompson ...
Thompson 30
Cotchin 28
Watson 26
Swan 24
Kennedy 24
Dangerfield 24
Ablett 23
Beams 22
Mitchell 19
K.Jack 19
Richmond
Cotchin 28
Deledio 13
Maric 7
Riewoldt 6
Tuck 6
Grigg 4
Edwards 4
Foley 3
Grimes 2
Conca 1
http://www.afl.com.au/Finals/FinalsEvents/BrownlowMedal/BrownlowTracker/tabid/18408/Default.aspx
Brownlow best
afl.com.au
Sun 23 Sep, 2012
RICHMOND
Trent Cotchin is one of the favourites for this year's medal, and it's little wonder. The Tigers won only eight games last year and Cotchin polled 15 votes. The Tigers won 10 games this season, and Cotchin had a far better year. In the coaches’ award, he won ahead of Brownlow fancies Dayne Beams, Gary Ablett and Patrick Dangerfield. Others to come under attention will be Brett Deledio, Shaun Grigg and Dustin Martin. If you want a precedent in Cotchin’s favour, Richmond ruckman Roy Wright won two Brownlows, in 1952 and 1954, despite playing in teams that finished outside the finals.
Trent Cotchin
The 22-year-old has been far and away Richmond's best player this season. He has already claimed the Tigers' best and fairest for the second successive year, he won the AFL Coaches' Association Champion Player of the Year award and made the All-Australian side for the first time.
Cotchin is quick and game, good by hand and foot, brilliant in traffic and strong overhead. He also has a physical trait that sets him apart, a running style that makes it look like he is stooping to pass beneath a low door.
Close observers would have been on to Cotchin all season, but the hype only started to build towards the end of the season, especially after the game against the Western Bulldogs in round 20. In that match, he had 35 disposals and kicked three classy goals, which, it is fair to say, no one else could have kicked. He is that type of player.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148321/default.aspx
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OE with the greatest respect your hurting my brain with these predictors
so far today we have any of Cotch, Thompson, Ablett, Lounder, Danger, Pym, taking charlie home
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OE with the greatest respect your hurting my brain with these predictors
so far today we have any of Cotch, Thompson, Ablett, Lounder, Danger, Pym, taking charlie home
So true. Just wallpaper to me. Not reading any of it.
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OE with the greatest respect your hurting my brain with these predictors
so far today we have any of Cotch, Thompson, Ablett, Lounder, Danger, Pym, taking charlie home
One of them will be right ;D.
Even the bookies don't know ...
''It's an absolute lottery,'' TAB Sportsbet's Adam Hamilton said yesterday.
Anyway Trent Cotchin, Ivan Maric, Shane Tuck, Jack Riewoldt and Chris Newman as captain will be on the Richmond table tonight.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brownlow-medal/brownlow-absolute-lottery-20120923-26f4f.html#ixzz27Jc1MoB4
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No Lids? Must be away
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No Lids? Must be away
Or still recovering from his knee opp ;)
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Demote Cotch to Coburg if he doesn't win it. We want contenders, not pretenders.
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Demote Cotch to Coburg if he doesn't win it. We want contenders, not pretenders.
Agree, if we go by WAT's theory its top 4 or delist ;D
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:lol
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Cotchin to Port for Rodan.
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Cotchin to Port for Rodan.
Perfect swap. :lol :rollin :lol
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Cotchin to Port for Rodan.
Perfect swap. :lol :rollin :lol
Bloody oath
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Must admit I'm getting a bit nervous :pray
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Must admit I'm getting a bit nervous :pray
Are you Cotchy? ;D
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Umpires - "good luck" (tap Jobe on the bum).
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Richmond's Trent Cotchin out to break Brownlow hoodoo
Michael Manley
From: Herald Sun
September 24, 2012 5:15PM
PEOPLE crack jokes about Richmond's inability to make the eight, let alone win a premiership, but there is an even bigger Tigers hoodoo - the Brownlow Medal.
The Tigers have won just five Brownlows and have the longest drought of the established clubs - a whopping 41 years. The Tigers' last premiership was 32 years ago.
In order to win the 1971 Brownlow, Richmond had to recruit Ian Stewart, who already had two to his name at St Kilda.
Even Fitzroy could claim a Brownlow in 1981. The next-longest drought with the exception of interstate clubs is North Melbourne (1983).
This year, the Tigers are hoping to break through with equal favourite Trent Cotchin.
While the Tigers' overall Brownlow Medal record is poor, when it comes to Brownlow favourites it is nothing short of disastrous.
Cotchin will be following in the footsteps of two other Tiger centreman, Geoff Raines and Wayne Campbell, who started Brownlow favourites but on the night were never in contention.
In 1980, pretty boy Geoff Raines was all the pre-Brownlow rage. He was the centreman in a team which subsequently won the flag and he also went on to win the Tigers' best-and-fairest.
Raines was sensationally backed into Brownlow favouritism and some declared he was past the post.
In the finish in one of the more perplexing Brownlow results of all time he received no votes.
Fifteen years later another Tiger onballer in Wayne Campbell was red-hot before the count.
He received nine votes.
In the 1970s Kevin Bartlett started favourite several times and managed a second and a third. In 1974 he was an odds-on favourite and he finished third behind Keith Greig.
Even Tiger players running a place has been a rare event in recent years. When Matthew Richardson finished third in 2008 he was the first Tiger to have run a place since Maurice Rioli finished second in 1983.
So over to you, Trent Cotchin.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/brownlow/richmonds-trent-cotchin-out-to-break-brownlow-hoodoo/story-fn422eni-1226480453050
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Off to the London Tavern soon.
Very exciting night.
Cmon Cotchy!
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Jon Anderson reckons Tucky could end up with more Brownlow votes than Cotch tonight.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/brownlow/being-best-player-at-your-club-doesnt-mean-most-brownlow-votes/story-fn422eni-1226480338877
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Off to the London Tavern soon.
Very exciting night.
Cmon Cotchy!
Ask around for Blackmore
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Demote Cotch to Coburg if he doesn't win it. We want contenders, not pretenders.
:bow :bow
:rollin
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Fox Footy just caught up with Ivan Maric and Erin Howard on the red carpet, they asked who's hair took longer.
And as I wrote this they caught Jack and his missus (missed her name sorry!). Safe today that he is batting well above his average.
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They all are if we're honest. If they weren't AFL footballers then they'd be chasing dirties at the pub like everyone else.
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That's on the money Coach. But there is every one else... Then there is Jack. It's like McGrath batting at 3.
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Chimp is batting below his average. Clint Bartram's sloppies.
Thus I predict 19 votes and no Brownlow. He'll learn.
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Chimp is batting below his average. Clint Bartram's sloppies.
Thus I predict 19 votes and no Brownlow. He'll learn.
:lol Wouldn't hold hands with anyone who has been in the same room as Clint Bartram.
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I feel terrible. Sorry Chimp.
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Apparently on the Gold Coast website there was a link to Congratulating Gary Ablett as the 2012 Brownlow medalist...
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Apparently on the Gold Coast website there was a link to Congratulating Gary Ablett as the 2012 Brownlow medalist...
Channel 10 news showed a player profile of Gaz from the Suns website showing his two brownlows, one being 2012.
Well done Gaz for tonights win!
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So much for not opening the votes until the night. :lol :shh :whistle
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Apparently on the Gold Coast website there was a link to Congratulating Gary Ablett as the 2012 Brownlow medalist...
Channel 10 news showed a player profile of Gaz from the Suns website showing his two brownlows, one being 2012.
Well done Gaz for tonights win!
Can I still bet?
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Heppell squibs picking up hot women by looks of it. :whistle
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Pia Miller :jump :veryhappy
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Okay here we go .....
R1: Rich vs Carl
No votes for us.
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Gazza will win
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It's over Ablett will win
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Cotch - flop of the brownlow
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R2 vs Coll:
1. Lids
Josh Kennedy and Ablett off to flyers with 6 votes.
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IT'SSSSSSSSSSS OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Ablett could get the most votes ever.
A couple of smashings to Gold Coast to open the season....
6 votes to Ablett.
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How can you get best on when you get your balls handed to you as a team?
Night
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How can you get best on when you get your balls handed to you as a team?
Night
Nigh night CUB :-*
:lol
His team gets belted, did he really have that much of an influence?
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Crablett :cheers
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R3 vs Melb:
3. Grigg
2. Foley
1. Tuck
Rich total
Grigg 3
Foley 2
Tuck 1
Lids 1
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Goodnight
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Ablett perfect so far - 3 votes in all 3 games :P.
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R4 vs Geel:
1. Foley
Rich total:
Grigg 3
Foley 3
Tuck 1
Lids 1
Ablett finally didn't get any votes.
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FFS WE DOMINATED GEELONG
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HOW THE F DOES COTCH NOT HAVE A VOTE YET
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R5 vs WCE:
3. Martin
Rich total
Grigg 3
Foley 3
Martin 3
Tuck 1
Lids 1
Kennedy joins Ablett on 9
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The only positive is the spread of votes across our mids aside from Cotch. It also shows the hole left by Foley's injury.
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Mrakov on the sips early...
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R6 vs Port:
3. Rance
2. Jack
1. Nahas ;D
Rich total
Grigg 3
Foley 3
Martin 3
Rance 3
Riewoldt 2
Tuck 1
Lids 1
Nahas 1
Watson up to 11
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R7 vs Syd
3. Cotch
2. Grigg
1. Martin
Rich total
Grigg 5
Martin 4
Cotch 3
Foley 3
Rance 3
Riewoldt 2
Tuck 1
Lids 1
Nahas 1
Finally!
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FINALLY! PRAISE Geez
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Leaderboard after round 7
Watson 13
Stanton 11
Thompson 10
Ablett 9
Kennedy 9
Cotch back on 3.
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FINALLY! PRAISE Geez
Relax bruz, cotch won't win it this year
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FINALLY! PRAISE Geez
Relax bruz, cotch won't win it this year
I know but thought he should have had more than 3 by now.
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Watson and Stanton shouldn't get many votes in the 2nd half of the year. It now all depends on how many votes Thompson, Kennedy and Ablett get from now on.
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R8 vs Ess (dreamtime):
3. Lids
Rich total
Grigg 5
Lids 4
Martin 4
Cotch 3
Foley 3
Rance 3
Riewoldt 2
Tuck 1
Nahas 1
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R9 vs Haw:
3. Cotch
2. Lids
1. Maric
Rich total
Cotch 6
Lids 6
Grigg 5
Martin 4
Foley 3
Rance 3
Riewoldt 2
Tuck 1
Maric 1
Nahas 1
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T Cotchin 3 vote praaaiisee the lawwd *Waves hands in the air*
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Cotch now on 6 but Watson got another 3 as well so he's up to 17. The rest of the contenders (on 12), Cotch is within striking distance of.
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starting to remind me of Campo in 95
watson nice bloke but not arsendon please
someone else win it FFS
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Essendon were 8-1 at this stage. All downhill for the Bombers now starting with that loss to the Dees ;D.
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R10 vs St K
3. Jack
2. Cotch
1. Maric
Rich total
Cotch 8
Lids 6
Grigg 5
Riewoldt 5
Martin 4
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Tuck 1
Nahas 1
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Ffs Watson polling in losses too
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R11 vs Freo :banghead
1. Cotch
Rich total
Cotch 9
Lids 6
Grigg 5
Riewoldt 5
Martin 4
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Tuck 1
Nahas 1
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Campell 95 all over
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yeah Mrakov exactly
3 goals 30 possy's = no votes for Cotch
yet Ablett 9 votes from 3 games for a total loss of 270 points
what a joke
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Ffs Watson polling in losses too
He's matched Cotch's last 3 games :-\
Leaderboard after round 11
Watson 20
Stanton 14
Ablett 12
Pendelbury 12
Thompson 12
Swan 11
...
Cotch 9
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yeah Mrakov exactly
3 goals 30 possy's = no votes for Cotch
yet Ablett 9 votes from 3 games for a total loss of 270 points
what a joke
THEY HATE US
US AGAINST ALL
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yeah Mrakov exactly
3 goals 30 possy's = no votes for Cotch
yet Ablett 9 votes from 3 games for a total loss of 270 points
what a joke
Writing was on the wall after round 2 when Jnr polled 3 votes after they got thumped by just on 100 points
What hope does anyone have seriously :huh
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yeah Mrakov exactly
3 goals 30 possy's = no votes for Cotch
yet Ablett 9 votes from 3 games for a total loss of 270 points
what a joke
How the f does that work?
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R12 vs GWS
3. Tuck
2. Cotch
1. Lids
Rich total
Cotch 11
Lids 8
Grigg 5
Riewoldt 5
Tuck 4
Martin 4
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Ablett and Thompson up to 15
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R13 - Bye
Watson got another 3 :P
Leaderboard
Watson 23
Ablett 15
Thompson 15
Stanton 14
Pendelbury 12
Swan 12
Cotchin 11
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Watson has about 8 votes where he shouldn't have even polled
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Ffs Watson polling in losses too
Ok its the bye rd now.
3 votes- j.watson
If he can poll so much including the losses then why can't ablett or cotch??
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R14 vs Adel
2. Tuck
1. Martin
Rich total
Cotch 11
Lids 8
Tuck 6
Grigg 5
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Watson another 3 votes :-X
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Ffs Watson polling in losses too
Ok its the bye rd now.
3 votes- j.watson
If he can poll so much including the losses then why can't ablett or cotch??
Essendon = Watson. Rest of their list is crap ;D
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R15 vs Melb
3. Grigg
1. Lids
Rich total
Cotch 11
Lids 9
Grigg 8
Tuck 6
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
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Gotta love them umps = clueless
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Cotch out of the running. Will he even get more than last year :huh
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LOL NO VOTES FOR COTCH V MEL LOL AT THEM GIVING MELB 2 VOTES F U AFL
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R16 vs GC :banghead
3. Cotch
1. Lids
Rich total
Cotch 14
Lids 10
Grigg 8
Tuck 6
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Thompson now only 5 behind Watson.
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OH WOW COTCH GOT 3
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I rest my case
Gold Coast game Ablett gets 2 votes he wasn't their best player that night
Umps definitely clueless
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Our votes are really spread, thats whats killed Chimp. But hey thats a positive for the team. :)
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Watson should hold on and win from here. Only needs a vote here and there to win.
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Ffs Watson polling in losses too
Ok its the bye rd now.
3 votes- j.watson
If he can poll so much including the losses then why can't ablett or cotch??
have a closer look
Ablett scores in matches they lose by over 10 goals
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LOL NO VOTES FOR COTCH V MEL LOL AT THEM GIVING MELB 2 VOTES F U AFL
Cotch 28 possies, 8 tackles to Jones 25, 6 tackles
We had 36 scoring shots to 23 btw. We should have won that game by 10 goals plus if we could kick straight ::).
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
if Cotch cant win it then come on Thompson
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I rest my case
Gold Coast game Ablett gets 2 votes he wasn't their best player that night
Umps definitely clueless
I agree WP but the Umps clearly just looked at the disposal stats sheet that day. Cotch 38, Lids 36, Ablett 33.
Bennell was the Suns best player though with 30 possies and Jack who kicked 5 both got no votes.
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LOL NO VOTES FOR COTCH V MEL LOL AT THEM GIVING MELB 2 VOTES F U AFL
Cotch 28 possies, 8 tackles to Jones 25, 6 tackles
We had 36 scoring shots to 23 btw. We should have won that game by 10 goals plus if we could kick straight ::).
Bullpoop
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
Watson had the second most possies on the ground against the Cats and 37 possies against the Hawks (8 more than everyone else) so don't be surprised if he still gets votes in both games.
Umps have looked at the disposals stats sheets this year before voting IMV.
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Judd got 2 votes in the match he done the chicken wing tackle in.
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
Watson had the second most possies on the ground against the Cats and 37 possies against the Hawks (8 more than everyone else) so don't be surprised if he still gets votes in both games.
Umps have looked at the disposals stats sheets this year before voting IMV.
We'd never ever poll in 12 goal and 100 point losses
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lol colour me stuffed and amazed at umpires yet again
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daniel jackson wins jim stynes community award.
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JACKO!!!!
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
Watson had the second most possies on the ground against the Cats and 37 possies against the Hawks (8 more than everyone else) so don't be surprised if he still gets votes in both games.
Umps have looked at the disposals stats sheets this year before voting IMV.
We'd never ever poll in 12 goal and 100 point losses
We're not one-man bands like Essendon and the Suns :nope
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
Watson had the second most possies on the ground against the Cats and 37 possies against the Hawks (8 more than everyone else) so don't be surprised if he still gets votes in both games.
Umps have looked at the disposals stats sheets this year before voting IMV.
We'd never ever poll in 12 goal and 100 point losses
We're not one-man bands like Essendon and the Suns :nope
Yep
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Watson is an outstanding midfielder at Essendon.
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R17 vs North :banghead
1. Cotch
Rich total
Cotch 15
Lids 10
Grigg 8
Tuck 6
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
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Watson SHOULD NOT score in the next 2 games or the AFL can get stuffed
12 goal loss to the Cats
100 point loss to the Hawks
Watson had the second most possies on the ground against the Cats and 37 possies against the Hawks (8 more than everyone else) so don't be surprised if he still gets votes in both games.
Umps have looked at the disposals stats sheets this year before voting IMV.
We'd never ever poll in 12 goal and 100 point losses
We're not one-man bands like Essendon and the Suns :nope
Sha Bang! The cyclops lays it down ;D
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Im with mrakov. you lose by 100 you suck. Its traditionally pretty rare to poll well in losses, particularly big losses, but if you do poll in a loss its usually only a 1 vote.
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G Ablett is comming :shh
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Petrie gets 3 votes for playing well for 20 mins
If they are not looking at the stat sheet they seem to only remember what happened in the final qtr
Why are watching
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Petrie gets 3 votes for playing well for 20 mins
If they are not looking at the stat sheet they seem to only remember what happened in the final qtr
Why are watching
He was poo for 3 qtrs and gets 3 ffs
Lids none in a really close game.. It's like we are GC or something being belted by 100
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R18 vs Carl :banghead
2. Tuck
Rich total
Cotch 15
Lids 10
Grigg 8
Tuck 8
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
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No votes for Cotch v Carltank what a joke
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Delist Deledio, Tuck, and Grigg for taking votes away from Cotchin :banghead
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Cotch can't win but I sort of knew that after round 2 when Jnr got 3 despite the Suns getting thumped by just on 100 points
It's laughable now
Don't be surprised if Cotch doesn't poll against the Bulldogs that's how laughable it is now
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Leaderboard after round 18
Watson 26
Ablett 22
Thompson 21
Mitchell 20
Swan 20
Hayes 18
Cotchin 15
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Delist Deledio, Tuck, and Grigg for taking votes away from Cotchin :banghead
Delist Maric, didn't finish in top 4 of our brownlow count and has been in the system for 8 years
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Inb4 Rich v Ess j Watson 3 votes.
And Cotch 0 votes v Bulldogs. Sorry Cotch, 30+ disposals and 3 goals only counts when you get belted.
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Delist Deledio, Tuck, and Grigg for taking votes away from Cotchin :banghead
Delist Maric, didn't finish in top 4 of our brownlow count and has been in the system for 8 years
Would trade for a can of coke and a Brownlow vote.
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Lol Jobe Watson wants to win so bad.
F'n moo
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Petrie gets 3 votes for playing well for 20 mins
If they are not looking at the stat sheet they seem to only remember what happened in the final qtr
Why are watching
im not agin that one, he made the difference in the end. for a key possie to make the diff, thats significant these days with loaded defenses
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As long as Watson or Ablett don't get it I'll be happy.
Go Mitchell or Thompson.
Gold Coast lose 4 games by over 10 goals and Ablett polls votes. This is not just a joke but an
absolute obscene joke. I can see the AFL will stoop to any level to promote the game up there
even handing out BOG's to blokes whose team lost by 90+ points twice.
Mark handball, handball receive run bounce tackle sling handball handball receive running to the 50 point. Ablett has 5 touches in that passage for the most attractive point you could ever wish to see.
The Brownlow Medal has become a farce. :help
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this is by far the worst Brownlow ive ever seen.
so many players getting votes in games they didnt play well or their team got smashed. Ablett, Petrie :banghead :banghead :banghead
Come on Thompson lift your game son
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R19 vs Bris
3. Lids
2. Grigg
1. Conca
Rich total
Cotch 15
Lids 13
Grigg 10
Tuck 8
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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Wouldnt mind Hayes getting up, wouldnt think itd happen but
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That's it for Cotch. Too many votes taken off him by Lids, Grigg and Tuck.
Watson another 3 votes in a loss.
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Looool
Worst brownlow ever
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Sitting on the couch my wife says "The fix is in, she heard it from a little birdie", she also says thats defamatory and that nothing she says can be relied upon.
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R20 vs Dogs
3. Cotch
2. Edwards
1. Grigg
Rich total
Cotch 18
Lids 13
Grigg 11
Tuck 8
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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Anytime you hear Essendon there is a 99.9% chance J. Watson will follow it.
lol Essendon, what a pooful team. Who carries their side more, Watson or Ablett.
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Watson should only get 1-2 votes last 3 rounds. Ablett get 3-3-3 :pray
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North kicked 7.6 to 3.4 after half-time to outlast Essendon 100-76 yet two Bombers (Watson and Bellchambers) receive votes :huh
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Lol Swan more votes than Cotch
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Anytime you hear Essendon there is a 99.9% chance J. Watson will follow it.
lol Essendon, what a sissyul team. Who carries their side more, Watson or Ablett.
They are both great players but this year is weird. I suppose it was a very even year. So many votes for those two players in losing sides.
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Watson should only get 1-2 votes last 3 rounds. Ablett get 3-3-3 :pray
He can't win with 3 3 3 anyway? Jobe wins now no matter what.
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Watson should only get 1-2 votes last 3 rounds. Ablett get 3-3-3 :pray
He can't win with 3 3 3 anyway? Jobe wins now no matter what.
Unless my maths is wrong, if Jobe gets 2 he is garenteed the win.
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Watson should only get 1-2 votes last 3 rounds. Ablett get 3-3-3 :pray
He can't win with 3 3 3 anyway? Jobe wins now no matter what.
Watson's got it but if Ablett did get 3 3s and Watson got nothng it would put Ablett on 32 votes to 30.
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Watson should only get 1-2 votes last 3 rounds. Ablett get 3-3-3 :pray
He can't win with 3 3 3 anyway? Jobe wins now no matter what.
Watson's got it but if Ablett did get 3 3s and Watson got nothng it would put Ablett on 32 votes to 30.
Yeah so I was right, irrelevant now as it's Watsons
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R21 vs Freo
2. Cotch
Rich total
Cotch 20
Lids 13
Grigg 11
Tuck 8
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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Watson's won it. He can't be caught now.
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R22 vs Ess
3. Cotch
2. Tuck
1. Lids
Rich total
Cotch 23
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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R22 vs Ess
3. Cotch
2. Tuck
1. Lids
Rich total
Cotch 23
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 5
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Sorry, I believe this requires a review. There is no Watson 3 votes?
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2nd!! Will win next year!
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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Well done Cotch, second not bad at allll
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
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What a joke though!
Should have got at least 6 more and Watson 6 less.
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Cotch finished equal 2nd. Came home like a train at the end.
Final Leaderboard
Watson 30
Cotchin 26
Mitchell 26
Thompson 25
Swan 25
Ablett 24
Dangerfield 23
Kennedy 19
Hayes 19
Beams 19
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
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ripped off
rubbish
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Cotch will go ape poo in the preseason
He'll win it next year
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Well done Trent. Multiple Brownlows are not far away.
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I must have given Lids an extra vote somewhere. He finished with 13 votes.
Final Richmond tally.
Cotchin 26
Deledio 13
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
At the end of the day it's a team sport and it's all about winning this ...
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Bobby Skilton said once he would trade all 3 of his Brownlow medals for one.
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
At the end of the day it's a team sport and it's all about winning this ...
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Bobby Skilton said once he would trade all 3 of his Brownlow medals for one.
Yep.. The Norm Smith is a way better medal IMO.
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Nice lad Jobe
Well done
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Nice lad Jobe
Well done
Has Knighter to thank :shh
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Still think Cotch should've won.
Did not get votes where he should've.
Jobe got silly votes where he shouldn't have. I'm peeed off f you afl
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Jon Anderson reckons Tucky could end up with more Brownlow votes than Cotch tonight.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/brownlow/being-best-player-at-your-club-doesnt-mean-most-brownlow-votes/story-fn422eni-1226480338877
Jon Anderson is obviously a knob then. :wallywink
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Watson got half the Essendon votes
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Jon Anderson reckons Tucky could end up with more Brownlow votes than Cotch tonight.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/brownlow/being-best-player-at-your-club-doesnt-mean-most-brownlow-votes/story-fn422eni-1226480338877
Jon Anderson is obviously a knob then. :wallywink
Massive knob who knows f all bout footy
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Anyone with a breakdown of the total Essendon and Hawthorn votes? Would like to compare Jobe's vote hoarding since he is surrounded by squibs to how Cotchin and Mitchell had to share their votes.
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Anyone with a breakdown of the total Essendon and Hawthorn votes? Would like to compare Jobe's vote hoarding since he is surrounded by squibs to how Cotchin and Mitchell had to share their votes.
Essendon had 63 votes. Richmond had 83. Forget Hawthorn but was 80+
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Anyone with a breakdown of the total Essendon and Hawthorn votes? Would like to compare Jobe's vote hoarding since he is surrounded by squibs to how Cotchin and Mitchell had to share their votes.
Essendon had 63 votes. Richmond had 83. Forget Hawthorn but was 80+
Cheers. :cheers So we were pretty well rounded then. I assume Essendons next best was Stanton from racking up cheapies on the outside? Besides Grigg, at least Tuck and Lids could win their own footy.
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Anyone with a breakdown of the total Essendon and Hawthorn votes? Would like to compare Jobe's vote hoarding since he is surrounded by squibs to how Cotchin and Mitchell had to share their votes.
Essendon had 63 votes. Richmond had 83. Forget Hawthorn but was 80+
Cheers. :cheers So we were pretty well rounded then. I assume Essendons next best was Stanton from racking up cheapies on the outside? Besides Grigg, at least Tuck and Lids could win their own footy.
Yeah Stanton with ~14
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
At the end of the day it's a team sport and it's all about winning this ...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTs92Qycgr_tGWcdsHQFJI0zQ-h5RSqtlJsTuGIUpy18xiVcBD7akxV7EXMQ)
Bobby Skilton said once he would trade all 3 of his Brownlow medals for one.
Here here
I would go ape if we won one of those, would dip myself in honey, streak across the ground ...!!
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Bryce Gibbs and Jack Watts tied on 3 votes each...
:ROTFL
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
At the end of the day it's a team sport and it's all about winning this ...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTs92Qycgr_tGWcdsHQFJI0zQ-h5RSqtlJsTuGIUpy18xiVcBD7akxV7EXMQ)
Bobby Skilton said once he would trade all 3 of his Brownlow medals for one.
Here here
I would go ape if we won one of those, would dip myself in honey, streak across the ground ...!!
Hells yeah! I'd probably do something pretty loose too. Like park my car out the front on my street where Owners Corporation keep sending me letters not to park! Look out, I'm off the rails.
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Bryce Gibbs and Jack Watts tied on 3 votes each...
:ROTFL
As long as they weren't against us.
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Did Judd poll 2 votes in the game he chicken winged that North player? What a joke the umps are?
Well done Cotch - good effort
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Chimp is batting below his average. Clint Bartram's sloppies.
Thus I predict 19 votes and no Brownlow. He'll learn.
Hamish Mcintosh has Schulzy's slops.
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I wish we didn't have Lids and Tucky now :(
At the end of the day it's a team sport and it's all about winning this ...
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Bobby Skilton said once he would trade all 3 of his Brownlow medals for one.
Bobby talks poo
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Anyone with a breakdown of the total Essendon and Hawthorn votes? Would like to compare Jobe's vote hoarding since he is surrounded by squibs to how Cotchin and Mitchell had to share their votes.
Teams totals went
Hawthorn
Sydney
Adelaide
Collingwood
Richmond, West Coast
Spot the odd one out. :banghead
Essendon were amongst the poo teams like GC/PA/Melb.
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Richmond had the 5th most votes per club with 83 in total.
Sydney 95
Hawthorn 92
Adelaide 88
Coll'wood 85
Richmond 83
West Coast 83
Geelong 77
Carlton 76
Fremantle 75
St Kilda 73
Essendon 63
North Melb 60
Brisbane 55
Gold Coast 43
Port Adel. 40
W.Bulldogs 40
Melbourne 27
GWS 22
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The premiership medal is far more valuable to the players. We have never been a team the umpires love. Look at how many Richmond greats never won the medal. Says it all.
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Don't mind Jobby too much! The Brownlow is held in high esteem and for that reason alone would love Cotch to win it one day. Saying that it is an umpires award and I cant stand the girly softies so meh really!
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Richmond had the 5th most votes per club with 83 in total.
Sydney 95
Hawthorn 92
Adelaide 88
Coll'wood 85
Richmond 83
West Coast 83
Geelong 77
Carlton 76
Fremantle 75
St Kilda 73
Essendon 63
North Melb 60
Brisbane 55
Gold Coast 43
Port Adel. 40
W.Bulldogs 40
Melbourne 27
GWS 22
Norf :lol
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
Yeah great isn't he, Foley was in front of him and gone for most of the year.. :clapping :clapping
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
Yeah great isn't he, Foley was in front of him and gone for most of the year.. :clapping :clapping
It's a midfielders medal, Edwards did well for a forward pocket.
Other forward pockets
Rioli - 6 votes
Milne - 3
Matera - 3
Leroy Jetta - 3
Bruest - 3
Historically, forward pockets don't do that well in the Brownlow.
Congratulations Edwards! :clapping
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
Yeah great isn't he, Foley was in front of him and gone for most of the year.. :clapping :clapping
It's a midfielders medal, Edwards did well for a forward pocket.
Other forward pockets
Rioli - 6 votes
Milne - 3
Matera - 3
Leroy Jetta - 3
Bruest - 3
Historically, forward pockets don't do that well in the Brownlow.
Congratulations Edwards! :clapping
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Nearly top 4 for small forwards :clapping
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
Yeah great isn't he, Foley was in front of him and gone for most of the year.. :clapping :clapping
It's a midfielders medal, Edwards did well for a forward pocket.
Other forward pockets
Rioli - 6 votes
Milne - 3
Matera - 3
Leroy Jetta - 3
Bruest - 3
Historically, forward pockets don't do that well in the Brownlow.
Congratulations Edwards! :clapping
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Nearly top 4 for small forwards :clapping
Top 4-6 :thumbsup Under WAT's criteria he has passed :clapping
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
Just chill out bro. Give us some bones bro
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
Please re read my post >:( Where did I mention "he won it" :huh :huh :huh Just saying great effort to finish in the top 10 at the club and top 4-6 out of all the small forwards :wallywink
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its about time this award was scrapped
it just isnt relevant anymore.
Watson good player not GREAT.
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its about time this award was scrapped
it just isnt relevant anymore.
Watson good player not GREAT.
Dud kick
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its about time this award was scrapped
it just isnt relevant anymore.
Watson good player not GREAT.
Dud kick
he sure is.
it goes to show how bad the bombers really
are with the quality they have across their
list.
one man band.
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Great effort Cotch considering he had fewer passengers.
Well done to Jobe Watson on his Brownlow medal win.
Watson does get hyped as a player.
Cotch has more upside and will win a few even with the traditional bad umpires against us.
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
Posting about the positives again I see... :shh
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
Well at least he has two things that you have never had or will ever have.... ::)
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baws?
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:lol :lol :lol....LMFAO... "congratulations Edwards"...like he won it.... :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin..........Classic. Bloody hell 2 votes..... :rollin :lol.
What's your view on Dan Jacksons Brownlow?
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
True had as many votes as Eevan. ;D
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
True had as many votes as Eevan. ;D
But Maric is no better than Graham remember.
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true, true.
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R23 vs Port
3. Cotch
1. Riewoldt
Rich total
Cotch 26
Lids 14
Grigg 11
Tuck 10
Riewoldt 6
Martin 5
Foley 3
Rance 3
Edwards 2
Maric 2
Nahas 1
Conca 1
Edward made the top 10 :clapping :clapping
True had as many votes as Eevan. ;D
But Maric is no better than Graham remember.
Jackster an umpire?
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Great effort Cotch considering he had fewer passengers.
Well done to Jobe Watson on his Brownlow medal win.
Watson does get hyped as a player.
Agree, but I would have Watson in our midfield in a heartbeat.
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This has been doing the email/social media rounds since yesterday ....
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=509175735821460&l=362b455f11
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:rollin
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HAHAHA GOLD!!!!
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Congratulations skipper :bow
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HAHAHA GOLD!!!!
+1. Best macro ever.
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Congratulations skipper :bow
King of chimps