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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 22, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
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Welcome Tigger officially :).
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9. Nick Vlastuin
(http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/2012/draft/vlastuin-nick-2012.jpg)
Former club:Northern Knights
DOB:19/04/1994
Height:186cm
Position:Defender
Weight:85kg
Player assessment
Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.
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Looked ready to go in his Tigers jumper :cheers
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Would have picked Jaksch myself but Vlastuin will be a good player. Welcome to him and hopefully he becomes a really great player.
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Two chin head looks unfinished
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loves his burger rings does vlastuin
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Looked genuinely excited.....as opposed to Jackson MacCrea who looked to be very upset to be going to the dogs.....literally.
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Tigers take Vlastuin
richmondfc.com.au
Thu 22 Nov, 2012
Richmond has chosen powerfully-built Northern Knights midfielder/half-back, Nick Vlastuin, with its first pick (No. 9 overall) in the 2012 AFL National Draft, held tonight at the Gold Coast Convention Centre.
Vlastuin, 187cm and 86kg, was a member of the AIS-AFL Academy program in 2011-2012. He also captained the Victoria Metro team, which won this year’s National under-18 Championships, subsequently earning All-Australian selection, as a defender, following his impressive efforts.
It is expected that the 18-year-old eventually will establish himself as an inside midfielder with the Tigers, given his overall skills set and the fact he thrives on the physical side of the game.
He possesses an exemplary attitude as well, and is rated one of the best leaders to have gone through the Vic Metro program in recent years.
“Nick displays the qualities so highly valued by the Richmond Football Club and coach Damien Hardwick’s player model - a fierce competitor, strong leader, and ability to win the one-on-one battles,” said Richmond Recruiting Manager, Francis Jackson.
“He averaged 17 disposals across half-back in the National under-18 Championships and led his men by example with some fierce tackling and intercept marking.
“Significantly, Nick played some of his best football while representing the AIS-AFL Australian team in their Academy games against the bigger bodies of the Geelong and Box Hill VFL sides over the past two years.
“Nick has all the tools to have a strong impact on our list - super competitor, strong tackling, safe marking, and powerful kicking.”
Vlastuin has been likened to determined Tiger defender, Steven Morris, in terms of his ferocious attack on the football.
In his own words: “I love the contested side of the game, the contest, the stoppages and all the body-on-body stuff. It’s what I’ve always loved the most. I can’t wait to see what it’s like (at AFL level).”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151545/default.aspx
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VIDEO: Nick Vlastuin highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdCfj63-xpQ
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151545/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
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Voss the 2nd :clapping
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Already got the guernsey on :thumbsup
(http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/876/jn7lt.jpg)
http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocjn7ltj
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More pics:
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think we should have gone grundy , this kid looks average to be honest, nothing that special
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Already got the guernsey on :thumbsup
(http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/876/jn7lt.jpg)
http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocjn7ltj
Is that interview on yet?
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has a massive head, as opposed to pinhead patton
not sure what it all means.
whoa :shh
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think we should have gone grundy , this kid looks average to be honest, nothing that special
Lol muppet.
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never in doubt, already familarised
with the lads from Tigerland. :cheers
sorry to read some are having kittens on who
we did/nt pick again.
oh wel you get that.
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Already got the guernsey on :thumbsup
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http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocjn7ltj
Is that interview on yet?
Not yet.
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Already got the guernsey on :thumbsup
[image removed]
http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocjn7ltj
Is that interview on yet?
Not yet.
Amateurs
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Pics:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20U-Z/vlastuin246.jpg) (http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/TAC+Cup+Rd+17+Northern+Knights+v+North+Ballarat+mf2qFS860erl.jpg) (http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nick+Vlastuin+TAC+Cup+Rd+17+Northern+Knights+KfJSN5ADYIhl.jpg)
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/11/01/1226508/593489-vlastuin.jpg) (http://www.contestedfooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Nick-Vlastuin.jpg)
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has a massive head, as opposed to pinhead patton
not sure what it al
Boofa
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Vlastuin was just interviewed on SEN:
* He said his surname is pronounced Flarss-tone (the v is pronounced as an f as it is dutch).
* He's an inside mid. Hasn't spoken to the coaching staff yet about where he'll play. Said Dimma is a good bloke.
* Ideally would like to play in the midfield. Believes his strengths suit playing there.
* Models his game on the likes of Joel Selwood, Luke Ball and Brad Sewell. The guys that are the best inside mids.
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Vlastuin was just interviewed on SEN:
* He said his surname is pronounced Flarss-tone (the v is pronounced as an f as it is dutch).
* He's an inside mid. Hasn't spoken to the coaching staff yet about where he'll play. Said Dimma is a good bloke.
* Ideally would like to play in the midfield. Believes his strengths suit playing there.
* Models his game on the likes of Joel Selwood, Luke Ball and Brad Sewell. The guys that are the best inside mids.
Will he speak German to Jack Riewoldt?
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think we should have gone grundy , this kid looks average to be honest, nothing that special
Lol muppet.
felcher
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Already got the guernsey on :thumbsup
(http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/876/jn7lt.jpg)
http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocjn7ltj
Between the Dutch boy, Morris, Ellis we look like hitler youth
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Vlastuin was just interviewed on SEN:
Said Dimma is a good bloke.
:lol Of course he did!
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Vlastuin was just interviewed on SEN:
Said Dimma is a good bloke.
:lol Of course he did!
Richmond PR machine in overdrive today trying to cover up why afew weeks ago we were looking for contested inside ball winners and left the draft with only 1.
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the richmond anti PR machine has been in overdrive for 24 hours looking for any excuse to hang poo on them.
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the richmond anti PR machine has been in overdrive for 24 hours looking for any excuse to hang poo on them.
No one here is anti richmond. All I said was I want the best people at Richmond and why a little while ago the Richmond recruiters were looking at contested ball winners and left with 1 at best.
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the richmond anti PR machine has been in overdrive for 24 hours looking for any excuse to hang poo on them.
No one here is anti richmond. All I said was I want the best people at Richmond and why a little while ago the Richmond recruiters were looking at contested ball winners and left with 1 at best.
Perhaps we are getting a gun free agent like Addam Maric
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the richmond anti PR machine has been in overdrive for 24 hours looking for any excuse to hang poo on them.
No one here is anti richmond. All I said was I want the best people at Richmond and why a little while ago the Richmond recruiters were looking at contested ball winners and left with 1 at best.
i said "richmond anti PR" not "anti richmond"
that may be all you said in this post, but all you have done is whine and moan in general.
if we had picked 3 o 4 contested ball winners you would be complaining about picking all the same type of player and why didnt we get this or that type.
arguably they have two anyway. Mcdonut wins his own ball
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Welcome Nick.
Happy with the pick, just hope we won't be kicking ourselves down the track that we overlooked Menzel and let him go to Carlton.
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i reckon that will only happen if turns out to be a flop.
It's not that unlikely that at least one player taken after after him will turn out to be a better player.
History also says that 2 or 3 top 10 picks dont go on, so its also likely likely that someone taken before him will bust.
as long as we get a good, long term player its a win.
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the richmond anti PR machine has been in overdrive for 24 hours looking for any excuse to hang poo on them.
No one here is anti richmond. All I said was I want the best people at Richmond and why a little while ago the Richmond recruiters were looking at contested ball winners and left with 1 at best.
i said "richmond anti PR" not "anti richmond"
that may be all you said in this post, but all you have done is whine and moan in general.
if we had picked 3 o 4 contested ball winners you would be complaining about picking all the same type of player and why didnt we get this or that type.
arguably they have two anyway. Mcdonut wins his own ball
Hope so :lol
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vlastuin looks good lets put it this way ellis wasn't that great in the under 18's and look at his year really good played all year and held his own...
vlastuin was really good in 18's and looks to have plenty of upside will play round 1 anyone that Captains VIC Metro must be good and for the tigers to pick him up id be :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow to our club... he will certainly take tucks role the following year....
our mids will certainly be the talk of the afl shortly if not already there young, hungry and all future stars of the comp
go u tigers
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VIDEO: First interview for @nickvlastuin (pronounced "Floss-tone") as a Tiger, he speaks to Roar Vision, watch it here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/505369/default.aspx
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Phantom draft profiles of Vlastuin:
#9 Richmond – Nick Vlastuin (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 19/04/1994
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Style: Michael Voss
Player comparison:
Range: 9-19
Profile: Midfielder who consistently wins the contested footy and just consistently goes harder than the next player. Big time clearance player. Skill level is exceptional, uses it well by both hand and foot and rarely makes mistakes. Particularly stands out by foot and has nice penetration. Has also been noted for leadership and really leads by example out on the field so there is a lot to like. Marking ability forward of centre very good for a midfielder. Consistently plays to a high level. Athletically only average and endurance still a work in progress and will need to improve before he develops into a full time midfielder. Tackles hard and willingly works both ways. Looks like a very low risk, solid pro who is worthy of a high draft position. Probably didn’t produce the numbers at the u18 champs that many expected but still a very desirable prospect and a guy you can play through the midfield or off a back flank tomorrow which will appeal to a number of clubs. One of those guys you’d love to have around the club.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2012-mock-draft.956129/
# 9 Richmond
Nick Vlaustin
Northern Knights
187cm / 83kg / ‘93
I really like this kid and he will appeal to a club as a potential Luke Hodge type player. That might be a big call but he is a terrific player. He is very highly rated individual who was a standout at the AIS and is a real on field leader. Has played HB and midfield predominantly but I think he will start more in the back half. Very efficient dual sided player who is a great height, has great hands, and is very aggressive at the stoppages and contested ball. Just seems to make good decisions and he seems to always be in the play. He never seems overly flustered either, just has that ability to take his time. Seen a fair bit of him now and have always walked away thinking he will be a player. Locked in on him and he is unlikely to go higher.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dogs-2012-mock-national-draft.980620/
Pick 23 – Sydney
Assuming Tippett is not the pick here Sydney are in a position where they can pretty much wait and just take whoever falls. They do have a few midfielders getting older and although Mitchell is waiting in the wings they could stand to add another decent ball winning midfielder to their squad. Vlastuin and Hrovat are two I think will come into contention and I have gone with Vlastuin because of his better size and ability to play back to start his career. A KP is also not out of the question.
Nick Vlastuin
DOB:19/4/94 Ht: 187 Wt: 86
Vlastuin is being talked up by some as a top 10 selection particularly to Richmond at 9. I don't agree with that ranking myself but Richmond do like to reach for this kind of player (eg Conca a couple of years ago). Vlastuin has a few nice things going for him but also a few inherent limitations which would see him fall to the mid 20s I think were he not the Vic Metro captain. Unfortunately a lot of teams share the bias toward Metro players and he will probably end up going higher than I think he deserves.
Okay first the good. Vlastuin provides a good physical presence no matter where he is playing on the park. He goes in hard and gets the ball and is not afraid to take a hit or two. He is a nice size and should develop into a powerful bodied player who can play the same way at AFL football. Despite lacking a yard of pace he moves through traffic well and to use a NFL term he identifies the seam and attacks it very nicely. He is not a big stepper but he swerves through traffic well enough and takes advantage of those who are not in a position to tackle him effectively. His ability to get through traffic is definitely a strength of his. The other big selling point for him is his leadership. He has captained at every level as far as I am aware and he leads both with actions and words. He was the guy doing the talking in the circle at the Champs and feedback from his coaches have been glowing on his leadership ability. He is also a player who does the team things that open the game up for others.
His kicking is also often talked up as a strength of his. Personally I think it is solid but not near the elite category. He is a right footer who can use his left but is a bit dubious with it. He needs to flatten his kicking out a bit as at the moment he has a bit too much loop. He has good penetration on his kicks and uses his long kicking about 80% of the time. Personally I do not really like his tendency to bomb long to a contest on most occasions. This might get him an effective kick in the stats line but it often does not do his team a lot of good. He needs to lower his eyes and start to pick out targets more in the short to intermediate range. Currently the hurt factor is not there on his kicks and if he starts to pick out targets more this should go up.
By hand he is often more damaging than by foot. He is probably the best exponent of the long handball in this draft and I watched him bring out a 30m ripper at the Champs to hit the man in stride and put him away. In contested situations he has shown nice quick hands and hits the receiver with a chance to use it. With the ball on the ground his hands are soft and he gathers or controls the ball nicely. In defence the ability to collect cleanly and go is an underrated skill and is something I am sure coaches would be interested in. At the back Vlastuin does nicely getting back and cleaning up messes.
Above his head his hands are a bit above average but probably not a lot more than that. His hands often look better than that because he has superior ability to judge the ball in the air and he works well into position to mark the ball. He drifts in front of contests and does not mind flying for the ball if it is warranted. When he flies he controls his body nicely and gives himself every chance to mark the ball. His hands are pretty soft but he does spill his share of marks many of which you would expect him to take.
Athletically is where a lot of the concerns are. Although he does gut run pretty well his tank seems pretty poor for a midfield prospect and given his experience and time in elite programs including the AIS I am inclined to think it always would be relative to other AFL players. He will get better for sure with focus on the problem but I would suggest he would have endurance levels below average and when we are likely moving into an era with capped interchanges that has to be considered. The other issue for him is pace. Although he does do some things nicely at pace he has a pretty low top end speed and looked slow compared to a few forwards he played against at the Champs like Mason Wood for one.
So where will he go? Take a step back and consider that we are dealing with a player who is athletically challenged and played predominately as a small defender at the Champs. When he went into the middle he did so to tag an opposition player as far as I could see and did not have the endurance to play there for extended periods. Then consider where you are going to play him next year. At the moment he does not have the endurance to play in the midfield at AFL level and small forwards are likely to beat him pretty easily for pace at the back. For those issues alone there should be no way he would be considered a top 10 pick.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quigleys-2012-mock.980920/
12. GWS - Nick Vlastuin (187cm midfielder - Northern Knights)
Nick Vlastuin is an interesting prospect this year, he almost seems to be the forgotten man. At the start of the year he was very highly regarded, including as a possible top 5 pick. But it seems that people have just gone cold on him, and I don't know why. It can't be based on performances, because he has been excellent this year - All Australian in the U18 Championships, TAC Cup Team of the Year and generally just starring in every game he's played. Perhaps it's because he played largely off of half back for Vic Metro as opposed to the midfield, so people have stuck the tag of 'medium defender' on him? He isn't the most athletic player going around, but he offers so much. He is exceptionally strong and always hits the packs hard, he wins his own ball and brings his teammates into the game. Even in close, he is always clean with his hands and has a nice kick on him too. I'd be pretty confident in saying that he will captain whatever team drafts him, and he is the type of player who could really set the tone of a club on the field. AFL Comparison: Luke Hodge.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/young-talent-time-a-2012-mock-draft.956131/
PICK 16 – GEELONG: NICK VLASTUIN
Height: 187cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 19/4/1994
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Vlastuin is another one of my favourites in the draft, and if Ollie Wines hadn’t have been available at Richmond’s pick 9, this is where I would have placed him.
For some reason, talking to a lot of people, they don’t regard him as a top ten pick. Obviously I don’t have him top ten in this draft, but if I were to do it ‘power rankings’ style, he’d most likely be in there. It’s almost like he’s ‘unfashionable’. Why? I have no idea.
Vlastuin is the closest thing to Luke Hodge I have seen coming through the junior ranks. The half-back Hodge, and the midfield Hodge.
It’s everything from his big size, excellent foot skills, manic attack on the ball and leadership qualities that remind me of Hodge. Hopefully he doesn’t have as many injury issues, although I think this is the reason why he isn’t talked about a bit more.
He’s been playing sore nearly all season, and as a result we didn’t get to see much midfield time from him in the National Champs, but he still made the All-Australian side. He consistently used the footy above 75% and cut off lots of attacks off half back, showcasing his ability to read the play and take intercepting marks in space or contested.
In the TAC Cup it was much the same, playing 10 games and averaging 18 disposals, 5 marks and 6 tackles at a healthy efficiency rate.
At his best, and fittest, Vlastuin is a legitimate inside midfielder. He craves the contested ball and you’ll struggle to find many players who go in harder at the footy (Steve Morris is a good example).
With his big size he’s able to position himself well and win those clearances with ease, and that will only translate into the AFL.
On the outside, he’s polish, which is why I rate him so high. He’s not the absolute best kick in the draft, but he’s up there. He’s very safe with short distance kicking and he has very good penetration on his long kicks, safely covering 50m.
Aerially he doesn’t have the biggest jump as he’s not really an athlete as such, but I really, really like his overheard marking. I think it will become a feature in his game at AFL level.
The reason he probably isn’t that ‘fashionable’ is because he’s not a pure athlete. He’s not overly quick and doesn’t have the spring in the air that some others have.
At the Combine he didn’t test for any of the jumps or sprints, but he ran a 13.2 shuttle run in 30 degree weather, and was in the top 40% in the 3km time trial. He clearly isn’t at his fittest, so the myth that he doesn’t have a tank is officially put to bed.
What Vlastuin is, is a natural footballer. I have no doubt he’ll become an AFL captain one day. He leads on the field by example, and supporters will love him because he gives his all at every contest.
http://www.footytragic.com/blog/2012-post-season/kristians-2012-phantom-draft/
13. Gold Coast (compensation pick) - Nick Vlastuin (Midfielder)
Height: 187cm
Weight: 83kg
Club: Northern Knights
Range: 5-20
Description: Vlastuin is a real hard nut inside midfielder. Someone who a GC, Richmond, Carlton would love to have. Wasn’t hugely productive in the Champs but was playing a new role off a HBF. For a big bodied inside mid he has some pretty neat kicking skills. The downside to him would be that he isn’t the most athletically gifted player going around in that he isn’t very quick, he doesn’t have a big leap and he’s already very physically developed. However, he is already a pretty high level player and has the added bonus of good leadership quality as well.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tigs-first-ever-mock-draft.960168/
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Hodge / Voss comparison :bow
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Just had a look at this highlight package and will sleep much easier tonight :shh. It is different to the pre-draft package.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/505310/pick+9+nick+vlastuin/default.aspx
The kid is a wrecking ball..........with class.
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We got the right one lol
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Just had a look at this highlight package and will sleep much easier tonight :shh. It is different to the pre-draft package.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/505310/pick+9+nick+vlastuin/default.aspx
The kid is a wrecking ball..........with class.
No one has a highlights package as good as JON made the rest look second rate. :whistle
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Legs like a gazelle
Hands like steel traps
Head like a gods clown
Whoa :shh
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Tigers recruit Nick Vlastuin expects to feel right at home with the Punt Rd stars and stripes
Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
November 24, 2012
RICHMOND'S newest onballer, Nick Vlastuin, could not take his Tigers jumper off on draft night.
The man welcomed to Punt Rd with pick No.9 wore his jumper to dinner with club officials and family to celebrate his selection.
"There was a supporters' group outside (the draft venue) and from there we went to dinner and I didn't have anything to change into," Vlastuin said.
"So I kept my Richmond jumper on. I didn't take it off until I went to bed."
The 187cm AIS-AFL graduate cannot wait to start training with the Tigers in Cairns next week.
"Someone said last night that they've only got about four players over 25," Vlastuin said.
" 'Dimma' (coach Damien Hardwick) likes the inside hard ball - I'm a bit like him I suppose - so I'm looking forward to playing there."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-recruit-nick-vlastuin-expects-to-feel-right-at-home-with-the-punt-rd-stars-and-stripes/story-fnelctok-1226523084085
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VIDEO: First interview for @nickvlastuin (pronounced "Floss-tone") as a Tiger, he speaks to Roar Vision, watch it here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/505369/default.aspx
So will his nickname be Flossy?? ;D
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"So I kept my Richmond jumper on. I didn't take it off until I went to bed."
That's stuffen fantastic!
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Wrapt to have this kid in y&b , tackles like a front rower and is houdini like in his ability to get out of trouble...absolute bloody steal this kid, whoa, talk about midfield depth
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yep hes a damn good pick up. had him behind only stringer. placed him behind only grundy when grundy slid. as far as the list goes would prefer grundy.
dont think anyone can complain too much about this pick not even me.
welcome to tigerland nick.
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suprised to hear thatb from you claw
I see him as a failed midfielder in the u18s
why do you rate him?
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yep hes a damn good pick up. had him behind only stringer. placed him behind only grundy when grundy slid. as far as the list goes would prefer grundy.
dont think anyone can complain too much about this pick not even me.
welcome to tigerland nick.
:thumbsup
Only one I rated higher on ability was Menzel who I had at one. And it's pretty obvious why he slid.
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suprised to hear thatb from you claw
I see him as a failed midfielder in the u18s
why do you rate him?
blaisee its not just about the u18champs. he was injured in the champs and they played him of a hbf.
just my opinion but i reckon he had a super consistent yr as an inside mid.
at the start of the yr i had him at 3 . i just love big bodied hard at it skillful players who get their own ball. hes all of that and more. the only issue i have with him is pace but he reads the play so well and he gets to so many contests that its not an issue. he was imo always a top 5 prospect and ya know he didnt do to much wrong to warrant slipping he was bloody consistent.
im griping a bit because of grundy. i know he slipped down the order but imo and a fair few others mind he was the best big man available in the draft. ihave wanted stringer since the day i first saw him which is over 3 yrs ago but as far as the list goes and talent for a big guy i would maybe have been prepared to forgo stringer for him. nick wasnt far behind either of them.
if i could take a player who was available at all our picks bar 9 it would have been nick graham. i really thought he would go easily top 25. i still think sam lowrie a real good prospect but hey he didnt even get taken so maybe im missing something.
cant remember who got dean kent but i reckon they got a player nm maybe.
finally i still think a lot of the wa boys underrated its sort of out of sight out of mind.
finally just a bit of irony. two players i desperately wanted us to rookie last yr went at 12 and 39 this draft, yet a player i wanted at 31/33 didnt get drafted go figure.
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Melbourne got Dean Kent.
I like Lowrie too. Maybe a rookie? Had a few injuries last few years. Broken leg in 2011 and collarbone 2012.
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Emma Quayle's article on Vlastuin prior to the draft....
Thrill of the game helps control Nick's hard edge
By Emma Quayle
The Age
Nov. 20, 2012
NICK Vlastuin had so much excess energy that he once broke $800 worth of glass in a single year. When he did something naughty his brother and sister used to go into ''time out'' rather than him, so they could get a break from their baby brother. When Vlastuin was 15 months old his mother nicknamed him Tigger, after Winnie the Pooh's bouncy buddy. It helped that he had red hair. ''Doesn't complain when he falls over or is pushed, just bounces up again,'' she wrote at the time. ''Unfortunately, he expects others to do likewise.''
Vlastuin is more subdued these days, around home at least. When he was made captain of the Vic Metro team this year he tried to be the sort of leader who spoke through his actions, and hoped he wasn't asked to make too many speeches. But as a kid he was so hard to control his mother, Cecily, became worried.
After Vlastuin bashed a stick against a door made of safety glass so many times that he smashed it, she went to see a paediatrician, wondering what to do. His suggestion: take the kid to Auskick.
That all happened when Vlastuin was four. Fourteen years later the football field is still where he channels his energy, where he still likes to run around, get dirty and push people over. ''I always liked the competitive side of the game, wrestling kids and roughing them up and getting roughed up,'' he said.
Cecily adds: ''He's been in training since he could walk, really. It's all he ever did, push people over.''
Still, football was not an obvious prescription. Vlastuin's parents grew up in New South Wales, his mother on a farm and his father Chris just north of the Hunter Valley after being born in Dutch New Guinea. Chris' parents moved to Australia after World War II, choosing it ahead of South America, Africa and Canada.
Nick's grandfather, Leedert, had fibbed about his age to get into the Dutch army and, after travelling to Indonesia for some adventure, was there when war broke out. He became caught up in it, surviving a prisoner-of-war camp at Changi and a labour camp at the Burma Railway when many of his good friends did not.
Back home in Holland, he and wife Bep struggled to settle, Bep having seen the war from the European side and Leedert from an Indonesian angle. It was something they never spoke about. The pair married by proxy so she could get into Indonesia, then spent a couple of years there, setting up a shop on water to do island hops but eventually losing a fortune after most of what they had was confiscated by the government and they were kicked out.
Almost the same thing happened in Australia, where they migrated despite speaking no English. Leedert helped an army mate establish a tobacco farm, building the house and the sheds. But he was double-crossed, inadvertently signing everything over to his friend, who took it all then turned the electricity off one Christmas Eve and kicked the family out of their home.
After losing everything for a second time, the Vlastuins moved to Taree on the Mid-North Coast where Leedert got a job at a parquetry flooring company, his adventuring done. He was a hard, tough man, qualities Cecily suspects may have continued on to Nick who, as a footballer, works relentlessly, is resilient and never wants to lose. Curiously, his brother, Tim, joined the army earlier this year. ''I took him to the gym before army training and killed him,'' said Nick, smiling. ''I'm hoping that won't change too quickly. We'll see.''
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The Vlastuins found themselves in Melbourne's northern suburbs when Chris got a job transfer, and the game they knew nothing about gave their youngest child an outlet. Before long, the bigger kids wanted Nick in their team and since starting out he has been through the Eltham juniors to the Northern Knights and Metro. He was surprised when asked to be captain, and was almost immediately challenged, with the team unexpectedly dropping its first match to the Northern Territory.
''I had the week off after that game and was sitting home just thinking about it. Being the first captain to lose to a division two team wasn't a good feeling,'' he said.
''I didn't know what had happened and I was annoyed, having waited so long for the nationals, but we came back after that and won the championships, so it worked out all right. It was good. I think that in the long run it helped get me out of my comfort zone. The coaches would call on me a bit and ask me about the games, what we did well and that sort of stuff. It made me think a bit differently.''
Vlastuin is ready to join his new club on Thursday night. That's what happens when you start out so young. He finished school last year, having started when he was four and kept up with the older kids right until the end. For the past few months he has been working as a lifeguard at a local swimming centre, waiting to push people around some more. ''I love the contested side of the game, the contest, the stoppages and all the body-on-body stuff,'' he said. ''It's what I've always loved the most. I can't wait to see what it's like.''
http://www.transcontinental.com.au/story/1132322/thrill-of-the-game-helps-control-nicks-hard-edge/?cs=2375
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yes he is tough, but his skills imo dont stack up from what i have seen, i hope im wrong
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suprised to hear thatb from you claw
I see him as a failed midfielder in the u18s
why do you rate him?
blaisee its not just about the u18champs. he was injured in the champs and they played him of a hbf.
just my opinion but i reckon he had a super consistent yr as an inside mid.
at the start of the yr i had him at 3 . i just love big bodied hard at it skillful players who get their own ball. hes all of that and more. the only issue i have with him is pace but he reads the play so well and he gets to so many contests that its not an issue. he was imo always a top 5 prospect and ya know he didnt do to much wrong to warrant slipping he was bloody consistent.
im griping a bit because of grundy. i know he slipped down the order but imo and a fair few others mind he was the best big man available in the draft. ihave wanted stringer since the day i first saw him which is over 3 yrs ago but as far as the list goes and talent for a big guy i would maybe have been prepared to forgo stringer for him. nick wasnt far behind either of them.
if i could take a player who was available at all our picks bar 9 it would have been nick graham. i really thought he would go easily top 25. i still think sam lowrie a real good prospect but hey he didnt even get taken so maybe im missing something.
cant remember who got dean kent but i reckon they got a player nm maybe.
finally i still think a lot of the wa boys underrated its sort of out of sight out of mind.
finally just a bit of irony. two players i desperately wanted us to rookie last yr went at 12 and 39 this draft, yet a player i wanted at 31/33 didnt get drafted go figure.
fair enough claw
he certainly is tough and he is a great leader
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One journalist said nick is in the Luke hodge mould.....I'll take that any day of the week
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Shack this real hard arse up with Dusty
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Vlastuin,martin,morris,conca,kingy,big ivan,jacko..and throw in A edwards..We are are building a team of genuine physcopaths(love it)
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The team is certainly getting the Hardwick stamp on it!
Three years of Dimma and we have a much harder edge to our side. Hopefully those small skinny flankers with no skill from the Wallace days are a thing of the past!!
:gotigers
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Although all teams need some skinny flankers ,at one point we had them by the truckload.For many Tiger supporters of a certain vintage who grew up with teams which included Balme,Maclean,Bourke,Mcghee,sheedy.it made us cringe
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Did you see the stick insect Carlton got at 11?
Happy with mcvlastuin.
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good I hope they keep recruiting stick insects and when we play them our funnel webs suck em dry
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Will be a good player but 1) needs to get more of the ball and 2) needs to improve efficiency when he has the footy. Going in the 60% range isnt gonna cut it. Needs to work on his disposal and get it up into the 80s. Even Rance who gets hammered by our supporters has efficiency in the 80% range.
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we made a mistake picking him first based purely on his toughness
we need skilled players
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Will be a good player but 1) needs to get more of the ball and 2) needs to improve efficiency when he has the footy. Going in the 60% range isnt gonna cut it. Needs to work on his disposal and get it up into the 80s. Even Rance who gets hammered by our supporters has efficiency in the 80% range.
Cotchin avg is 60s too - that tends to happen when you win contested footy. Guys like Grigg, Bacher and even Rance should haves higher rates of disposal efficiency
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Ch 10 reporter Jacqui Reed @JacquiReed10 twitter:
"Just met @richmond_fc 's new draftees. I'm calling it now, Nick Vlastuin is a future captain #puttingitoutthere"
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Will be a good player but 1) needs to get more of the ball and 2) needs to improve efficiency when he has the footy. Going in the 60% range isnt gonna cut it. Needs to work on his disposal and get it up into the 80s. Even Rance who gets hammered by our supporters has efficiency in the 80% range.
Cotchin avg is 60s too - that tends to happen when you win contested footy. Guys like Grigg, Bacher and even Rance should haves higher rates of disposal efficiency
are there any good inside mids in the comp with an efficiency in the 80s? doubt it. impossible expectations.
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Tigger the Tiger
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 26 Nov, 2012
Nick Vlastuin’s mother must have clairvoyant powers...
When Richmond’s first selection in the 2012 National Draft was just 15 months old, his mum, Cecily, nicknamed him “Tigger”, after the tiger character in the “Winnie the Pooh” books.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151676/default.aspx
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Will be a good player but 1) needs to get more of the ball and 2) needs to improve efficiency when he has the footy. Going in the 60% range isnt gonna cut it. Needs to work on his disposal and get it up into the 80s. Even Rance who gets hammered by our supporters has efficiency in the 80% range.
Cotchin avg is 60s too - that tends to happen when you win contested footy. Guys like Grigg, Bacher and even Rance should haves higher rates of disposal efficiency
are there any good inside mids in the comp with an efficiency in the 80s? doubt it. impossible expectations.
Doesn't matter. 80% or delist. End of story, ;D
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‘Vlas’ like Voss
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 27 Nov, 2012
Successful coach of the Vic Metro team, former Carlton forward Rohan Welsh, has likened Richmond’s first pick in last week’s 2012 National Draft, Nick Vlastuin, to a younger version of triple Brisbane premiership captain and Brownlow Medallist, Michael Voss.
“If I had to compare him to an AFL footballer, I would say that he reminds me of a young Michael Voss. He is tough, hard at the footy, and the man with the footy, leads by his actions, and uses the ball well,” Welsh said.
“’Tigger’ is just so hard that sometimes you can forget that he is actually a super smart footballer with great skills.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151766/default.aspx
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The Herald-Sun has ranked Vlastuin 12th as far as making the biggest impact next year out of all the new draftees.
We list the 20 draftees set to make the biggest impact next season
Sam Landsberger, Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
November 30, 2012
THE kid gloves are off for these golden 20.
Forget project players, here are the talents from this year's draft who will have the biggest impact next season.
SAM LANDSBERGER and JAY CLARK rank the first-year players who are set to explode from Round 1, 2013.
Get your SuperCoach notes ready.
12. NICK VLASTUIN
Club: Richmond
Age: 18
Height: 187cm Weight: 83kg
Drafted: No.9
Another foot soldier is physically ready to go, but will have a battle on his hands breaking into the senior side early, with Steve Morris and Brandon Ellis shining down back last season. Hard as a two-dollar steak and can play inside midfield role.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/draft-tracker/we-list-the-20-draftees-set-to-make-the-biggest-impact-next-season/story-fngeflq8-1226526782154
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
I was on the 'Grundy train' but the selection of McBean eases the pain. As for Menzel he was not the type of medium sized player we had most need for in any case. His knees would always be an issue (real or imagined) as well. We needed and still need top quality specialist mids who can go forward or back....not the other way around.
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
I was on the 'Grundy train' but the selection of McBean eases the pain. As for Menzel he was not the type of medium sized player we had most need for in any case. His knees would always be an issue (real or imagined) as well. We needed and still need top quality specialist mids who can go forward or back....not the other way around.
yeh mate but you can imagien when grundy starts killing it for the pies and Ivaan is in his 30's they will give it to us like tambling and franklin/roughhead
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
That's rough mate. I thought he was good for a first year player. Sometimes people expect so much from juniors. Thought he was better than many that were picked ahead of him too.
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
I was on the 'Grundy train' but the selection of McBean eases the pain. As for Menzel he was not the type of medium sized player we had most need for in any case. His knees would always be an issue (real or imagined) as well. We needed and still need top quality specialist mids who can go forward or back....not the other way around.
yeh mate but you can imagien when grundy starts killing it for the pies and Ivaan is in his 30's they will give it to us like tambling and franklin/roughhead
so your saying vlastuin will be a bust like tambling?
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
serious ? had a better year then second year conca
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
I was on the 'Grundy train' but the selection of McBean eases the pain. As for Menzel he was not the type of medium sized player we had most need for in any case. His knees would always be an issue (real or imagined) as well. We needed and still need top quality specialist mids who can go forward or back....not the other way around.
yeh mate but you can imagien when grundy starts killing it for the pies and Ivaan is in his 30's they will give it to us like tambling and franklin/roughhead
Not if we're winning premierships or at least finishing above them on the ladder. :thumbsup
If we had played finals consistently when Tambo was around, the Buddy/Tambo argument would have been a moot point. Our ability to defend criticism of individual players at our club
is directly related to how successful we are on the field as a team. I'm sure there were a few recruitment mistakes made by Brisbane during their Golden run in 2001 & 2002 but does anyone remember them?
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
serious ? had a better year then second year conca
no i m saying he will be judged agaisnt Grundy aka like conca and heppel or darling and what not
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Bird man arguing with himself
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:lol
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
serious ? had a better year then second year conca
Ok, each to their own, don't agree though, really needs to improve his kicking and that has been identified by many, many times.
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
serious ? had a better year then second year conca
Ok, each to their own, don't agree though, really needs to improve his kicking and that has been identified by many, many times.
Got plenty of time to do it which I reckon he will. I don't think its actually his kicking, more his decision making under pressure which will improve as it was only his first year.
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Ellis shining....poo where was I... :lol
serious ? had a better year then second year conca
Ok, each to their own, don't agree though, really needs to improve his kicking and that has been identified by many, many times.
Got plenty of time to do it which I reckon he will. I don't think its actually his kicking, more his decision making under pressure which will improve as it was only his first year.
yep, his kicking is fine and was a strength in his junior yrs, as he adapts to the pace of afl, his decision making will improve
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Being a bit harsh I feel. Conca has played well as a hard nose midfielder in his second year and Eliis similar. People expect far too much of you players. Vlaustin won't be a bust. At worst he will be a very good player. This is the exact reason we took him. Low risk for failure and complement our midfield group going forward. Reserve your judgment until a few years.
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Vlaustin won't be a bust. At worst he will be a very good player
No offense Stripes but how the stuff do you know that?
Ellis needs to stick his head over the onion next year
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Go watch some of the games with Ellis in them, I have no doubt the kid will be great, all I am saying is his skills and in particular his kicking was very average last year for a player that was recruited for the reason of having sublime kicking skills, I didn't see it.
Go and read the recent story where he just ran the fastest around the Tan, read the first paragraph....
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Go watch some of the games with Ellis in them, I have no doubt the kid will be great, all I am saying is his skills and in particular his kicking was very average last year for a player that was recruited for the reason of having sublime kicking skills, I didn't see it.
Go and read the recent story where he just ran the fastest around the Tan, read the first paragraph....
i swear we recruited him on kicking ablity thats why we had him in kick in in some games ... i agree with teh above he needs to work on his awarness on feild
i would have taken Atley, Heppel, Darling before conca but, like previously said before each to his own i gess
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Ellis needs to stick his head over the onion next year
Hopefully he doesn't get moulded into a Houli
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Vlaustin won't be a bust. At worst he will be a very good player
No offense Stripes but how the stuff do you know that?
Ellis needs to stick his head over the onion next year
His attitude, his determination, his basic skill set and way he attacks the ball. You can't teach that. Morris, Cotchin, Grimes even Kingy all have that attitude and determination to succeed and improve themselves. Vlaustin is a team player first and foremost.
With attributes like that and the base he has to work with he can't fail..................unless he's cruelled by injuries of course. :thumbsup
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i cant understand the man love for heppel. That long girly hair flowing as he streams about playing loose in defence must cause a disturbing stirring in people's groins.
Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
If heppel got the ball in heavy trafffic that Conca does he would need to wear a nappy when he plays.
Buffalo girl of the highest order.
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Agree al, added to that he has minimal hurt factor - doesn't break lines, similar to Gibbs. Incredibly overrated.
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Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
That's arse man and you know it. Seen Heppel have some poor efforts but have also seen him go back with the flight and take a courageous grab a number of times. Houli pretty much refuses to do that
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Heppel more worried about which way his hair blows when running with flight of the ball. :shh
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Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
That's arse man and you know it. Seen Heppel have some poor efforts but have also seen him go back with the flight and take a courageous grab a number of times. Houli pretty much refuses to do that
you dont see it when houli does it because you close your eyes and hope he doesn't get hurt
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Heppel is better, because other teams' onions are always better than ours.
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Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
That's arse man and you know it. Seen Heppel have some poor efforts but have also seen him go back with the flight and take a courageous grab a number of times. Houli pretty much refuses to do that
you dont see it when houli does it because you close your eyes and hope he doesn't get hurt
Don't we all
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;D
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Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
That's arse man and you know it. Seen Heppel have some poor efforts but have also seen him go back with the flight and take a courageous grab a number of times. Houli pretty much refuses to do that
Can't back you up here CD. Have seen Houli do it a few times (could do it more though) - have never seen Heppel do it. Heppel is a girl's blouse of the highest order.
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Nup Heppel has balls and has shown it. Also has a tendency to pull out. How old is he? 20? Ellis was one of the softest players in the league last season and that never gets a mention. Is that because he plays for Richmond :shh FWIW I think Ellis will be fine. He is young....so is Heppel
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Houli goes harder than Heppel does.
That's arse man and you know it. Seen Heppel have some poor efforts but have also seen him go back with the flight and take a courageous grab a number of times. Houli pretty much refuses to do that
Houli's alright going back with the flight except he never grabs em, it's front of contact when you see him drop his nuts
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The more I think about it, the more i am happy with this selection. Tucky and Cotch shoulder too much of the ball-winning burden. It's actually a list need when you consider the long term. I reckon he will be a much loved beast in a couple of years.
People always find ways to sook about our picks.
If we got Menzel, everybody would be saying that we weren't in a position to risk his injury concerns.
Brandon squibbed it a bit early, but he got tougher as the season wore on and his tackles started to stick. Seriously though, he was flippin 18 for much of the season. I probably had a collective 16 pubes when I was 18. He still comes across as a boy. He'l be alright.
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Nup Heppel has balls and has shown it. Also has a tendency to pull out. How old is he? 20? Ellis was one of the softest players in the league last season and that never gets a mention. Is that because he plays for Richmond :shh FWIW I think Ellis will be fine. He is young....so is Heppel
Ellis soft, :lol..what games where you watching, yakanadanda thirds ...ellis is like a junk yard dog in the contest, always has :shh
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Nup Heppel has balls and has shown it. Also has a tendency to pull out. How old is he? 20? Ellis was one of the softest players in the league last season and that never gets a mention. Is that because he plays for Richmond :shh FWIW I think Ellis will be fine. He is young....so is Heppel
Ellis soft, :lol..what games where you watching, yakanadanda thirds ...ellis is like a junk yard dog in the contest, always has :shh
I know you like to be positive but Ellis was a fairy last season. Tip toeing around on the outside of contests, constantly being second to the ball because he didn't want to get tackled, short steps and he has ducked his head. Admittedly he wasn't as embarrassing in the second half of the year but he was not a "junk yard dog". Give me a spell. Be realistic, BJ
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seriously though, he was flippin 18 for much of the season.
That's pretty much what I am talking about. Plenty of young players are a bit timid early on in their careers. Ellis will probably never be a hard man but he should be right. I reckon Heppel will be too
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I reckon Heppel will be too
If he gets a haircut.
;D
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:o :lol
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Oh my :o
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seriously though, he was flippin 18 for much of the season.
That's pretty much what I am talking about. Plenty of young players are a bit timid early on in their careers. Ellis will probably never be a hard man but he should be right. I reckon Heppel will be too
agreed.
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The more I think about it, the more i am happy with this selection. Tucky and Cotch shoulder too much of the ball-winning burden. It's actually a list need when you consider the long term. I reckon he will be a much loved beast in a couple of years.
People always find ways to sook about our picks.
If we got Menzel, everybody would be saying that we weren't in a position to risk his injury concerns.
Brandon squibbed it a bit early, but he got tougher as the season wore on and his tackles started to stick. Seriously though, he was flippin 18 for much of the season. I probably had a collective 16 pubes when I was 18. He still comes across as a boy. He'l be alright.
If we got Whitfield people would be complaining theres a reason he slipped and should never of got him
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Pick 23 – Sydney
Assuming Tippett is not the pick here Sydney are in a position where they can pretty much wait and just take whoever falls. They do have a few midfielders getting older and although Mitchell is waiting in the wings they could stand to add another decent ball winning midfielder to their squad. Vlastuin and Hrovat are two I think will come into contention and I have gone with Vlastuin because of his better size and ability to play back to start his career. A KP is also not out of the question.
Nick Vlastuin
DOB:19/4/94 Ht: 187 Wt: 86
Vlastuin is being talked up by some as a top 10 selection particularly to Richmond at 9. I don't agree with that ranking myself but Richmond do like to reach for this kind of player (eg Conca a couple of years ago). Vlastuin has a few nice things going for him but also a few inherent limitations which would see him fall to the mid 20s I think were he not the Vic Metro captain. Unfortunately a lot of teams share the bias toward Metro players and he will probably end up going higher than I think he deserves.
Okay first the good. Vlastuin provides a good physical presence no matter where he is playing on the park. He goes in hard and gets the ball and is not afraid to take a hit or two. He is a nice size and should develop into a powerful bodied player who can play the same way at AFL football. Despite lacking a yard of pace he moves through traffic well and to use a NFL term he identifies the seam and attacks it very nicely. He is not a big stepper but he swerves through traffic well enough and takes advantage of those who are not in a position to tackle him effectively. His ability to get through traffic is definitely a strength of his. The other big selling point for him is his leadership. He has captained at every level as far as I am aware and he leads both with actions and words. He was the guy doing the talking in the circle at the Champs and feedback from his coaches have been glowing on his leadership ability. He is also a player who does the team things that open the game up for others.
His kicking is also often talked up as a strength of his. Personally I think it is solid but not near the elite category. He is a right footer who can use his left but is a bit dubious with it. He needs to flatten his kicking out a bit as at the moment he has a bit too much loop. He has good penetration on his kicks and uses his long kicking about 80% of the time. Personally I do not really like his tendency to bomb long to a contest on most occasions. This might get him an effective kick in the stats line but it often does not do his team a lot of good. He needs to lower his eyes and start to pick out targets more in the short to intermediate range. Currently the hurt factor is not there on his kicks and if he starts to pick out targets more this should go up.
By hand he is often more damaging than by foot. He is probably the best exponent of the long handball in this draft and I watched him bring out a 30m ripper at the Champs to hit the man in stride and put him away. In contested situations he has shown nice quick hands and hits the receiver with a chance to use it. With the ball on the ground his hands are soft and he gathers or controls the ball nicely. In defence the ability to collect cleanly and go is an underrated skill and is something I am sure coaches would be interested in. At the back Vlastuin does nicely getting back and cleaning up messes.
Above his head his hands are a bit above average but probably not a lot more than that. His hands often look better than that because he has superior ability to judge the ball in the air and he works well into position to mark the ball. He drifts in front of contests and does not mind flying for the ball if it is warranted. When he flies he controls his body nicely and gives himself every chance to mark the ball. His hands are pretty soft but he does spill his share of marks many of which you would expect him to take.
Athletically is where a lot of the concerns are. Although he does gut run pretty well his tank seems pretty poor for a midfield prospect and given his experience and time in elite programs including the AIS I am inclined to think it always would be relative to other AFL players. He will get better for sure with focus on the problem but I would suggest he would have endurance levels below average and when we are likely moving into an era with capped interchanges that has to be considered. The other issue for him is pace. Although he does do some things nicely at pace he has a pretty low top end speed and looked slow compared to a few forwards he played against at the Champs like Mason Wood for one.
So where will he go? Take a step back and consider that we are dealing with a player who is athletically challenged and played predominately as a small defender at the Champs. When he went into the middle he did so to tag an opposition player as far as I could see and did not have the endurance to play there for extended periods. Then consider where you are going to play him next year. At the moment he does not have the endurance to play in the midfield at AFL level and small forwards are likely to beat him pretty easily for pace at the back. For those issues alone there should be no way he would be considered a top 10 pick.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quigleys-2012-mock.980920/
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Interesting read will be reading this again in a few years , Hope FJ gets this right ..
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Nup Heppel has balls and has shown it. Also has a tendency to pull out. How old is he? 20? Ellis was one of the softest players in the league last season and that never gets a mention. Is that because he plays for Richmond :shh FWIW I think Ellis will be fine. He is young....so is Heppel
Ellis soft, :lol..what games where you watching, yakanadanda thirds ...ellis is like a junk yard dog in the contest, always has :shh
I know you like to be positive but Ellis was a fairy last season. Tip toeing around on the outside of contests, constantly being second to the ball because he didn't want to get tackled, short steps and he has ducked his head. Admittedly he wasn't as embarrassing in the second half of the year but he was not a "junk yard dog". Give me a spell. Be realistic, BJ
did you actually go to any games or just watch the replay on the winners :lol
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My Craltank friend "mate" says he can't believe we took this guy ahead of Menzel.
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My Craltank friend "mate" says he can't believe we took this guy ahead of Menzel.
sadly bad knees go with the Menzels like bad luck follows the kennedys :shh
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:shh :lol
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My Craltank friend "mate" says he can't believe we took this guy ahead of Menzel.
Cause menzal looks like a teenage school girl.
Mcvlastuin will break him in half.
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fell crap for doing this but im afraid if Menzel and Grundy starting smashing the comp i won't be happy
heres hoping vlas crunches judd come round one :pray
I was on the 'Grundy train' but the selection of McBean eases the pain. As for Menzel he was not the type of medium sized player we had most need for in any case. His knees would always be an issue (real or imagined) as well. We needed and still need top quality specialist mids who can go forward or back....not the other way around.
im the same and agree with those comments. . i rated vlastuin very highly top 5 in fact. but felt grundy also a top 5 pick but a much more list oriented pick.
very happy to have vlastuin think he will be a very good player i also think hes ready to go straight away.
not sure about mcbean i dont see him being a ruckman. but one can understand why they took him if they think he is one. this is the only pick im genuinely not happy about.
have said a few times would have traded for stefan martin as backup to ivan and taken jack hannath late in the nd. i would then be looking to take another junior as a rookie or in next yrs draft who isnt so speculative as mcbean.we cannot afford to put all our long term ruck hopes in mcbean we must take another.
i dont see timid players who shy from the contest making good ruckmen. obviously the weight and frame are issues as well.
imo theres more riding on derickx actually making it than stephenson being a fill in. i was a big wrap for tom when he was at claremont but geez hes done nothing since we have had him. at 25 or 26 next yr he has to show something. what i dont get is the fact they have not even played him as a ruckman i really do wonder what they think sometimes.
having watched orren at geelong i reckon hes bloody ordinary and less talented than angus graham still at least orren gives a contest or teies to every time.
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
I may be wrong but Conca IMO will be 'schooled' to be more inside whilst Heppell is 'outside'. At the time of the Conca selection we were in dire need of inside mids.....likewise with the selection of Vlaustin. However, I think a line-breaking mid will be on the cards next year...... hopefully.
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
I may be wrong but Conca IMO will be 'schooled' to be more inside whilst Heppell is 'outside'. At the time of the Conca selection we were in dire need of inside mids.....likewise with the selection of Vlaustin. However, I think a line-breaking mid will be on the cards next year...... hopefully.
Probably a GWS player wanting to leave....
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
I may be wrong but Conca IMO will be 'schooled' to be more inside whilst Heppell is 'outside'. At the time of the Conca selection we were in dire need of inside mids.....likewise with the selection of Vlaustin. However, I think a line-breaking mid will be on the cards next year...... hopefully.
Probably a GWS player wanting to leave....
Yes indeed :thumbsup
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
I may be wrong but Conca IMO will be 'schooled' to be more inside whilst Heppell is 'outside'. At the time of the Conca selection we were in dire need of inside mids.....likewise with the selection of Vlaustin. However, I think a line-breaking mid will be on the cards next year...... hopefully.
Heppell is so outside he is practically on the other side of the boundary line
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Is Heppell a genuine mid?
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Is Heppell a genuine mid?
She's a HBF
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Is Heppell a genuine mid?
Only if he was in the yellow sash.
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Is Heppell a genuine mid?
Lol
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How long will it take Vlastuin to get a decent tank?
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How long will it take Vlastuin to get a decent tank?
Needs to go to the dees to get one of those! :lol
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How long will it take Vlastuin to get a decent tank?
Needs to go to the dees to get one of those! :lol
Or Blooze or WCE or Collingtank
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Richmond FC twitter:
"Tiger cub @nickvlastuin in his playing kit, filming at @foxfooty. We hope to see lots more of him in the jumper!"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB1jyraCMAA2Lw6.jpg:large)
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Richmond FC twitter:
"Tiger cub @nickvlastuin in his playing kit, filming at @foxfooty. We hope to see lots more of him in the jumper!"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB1jyraCMAA2Lw6.jpg:large)
It's Conca all over again
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It's Conca all over again
Redhead wearing a Tiger jumper?
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Right now the kid is a rough diamond. :thumbsup
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Looks like the Geez The Redeemer statue.
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Looks like the Geez The Redeemer statue.
Apparently the kid is made of stone and loves churrasco
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Richmond FC twitter:
"Tiger cub @nickvlastuin in his playing kit, filming at @foxfooty. We hope to see lots more of him in the jumper!"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB1jyraCMAA2Lw6.jpg:large)
Pull Your Socks Up Son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Big mellon.
Looks like a neanderthal Daniel Jackson. Which is funny because Jackson has the decision making skills of a caveman.
Anyhoot, ladies please form an orderly line... :eyebrow
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Yep lookout Brett Ebert, there's a new Megahead in town
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Reverse pinhead Patton.
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Reverse pinhead Patton.
Lmao @ Reverse Pin Head :lol
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dyson heppell. yep still believe we should have taken him.
has two things conca does not.
awareness he knows what is around him and his ability to find space and time he is rarely rushed. these two traits alone says he will be a good mid.
at 189cm/ and 80kg when drafted he was a lovely size who would not take too long to bulk up. he played at 85kg this yr and that will improve again next yr not just with actual size but core strength.
finally from what ive seen of both thus far i reckon heppell a better skilled, better athlete and eventually a much bigger player than conca.
this is not a put down on conca i think he will be a decent player for us but i believe heppell will be the better of the two.
I may be wrong but Conca IMO will be 'schooled' to be more inside whilst Heppell is 'outside'. At the time of the Conca selection we were in dire need of inside mids.....likewise with the selection of Vlaustin. However, I think a line-breaking mid will be on the cards next year...... hopefully.
We already have 2 of the best line breaking mids in the comp, in Lids and Martin, one that runs through the lines and the other breaks through the lines.
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Reverse pinhead Patton.
:lol
Yep lookout Brett Ebert, there's a new Megahead in town
:lol
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As the kids AFL future is yet to be decided, he has a gig measuring aisle widths for a supermarket chain.
His supermarket manager was quoted as saying..." The Kid's a natural! An absolute prodigy! He has the perfect arm span to exactly measure aisles which provide the perfect balance for stock holding whilst maintaining optimum customer comfort. Kids like this just don't grow on tree's you know. One of our scouts saw him yawn once as a 14 year old and we knew when fully grown he would be a must have for our organisation. He just ticks all the boxes. We understand that there are rumours going round that he has congenital tendinitis in his elbow but we are closely monitoring this and we have him in our rehab group. If all goes to plan, he will be cherry ripe for the Easter rush. We will do everything we can to keep him and have even offered him a position in our leadership group."
(http://i48.tinypic.com/apd0td.jpg)
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:lol :lol
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More tiga gold! :lol
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He has gone international Tiga! :thumbsup
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He has gone international Tiga! :thumbsup
Yeah the photo was from a recent supermarket international rules competiton held in Des Moines Iowa. Flossy beat all comers with his sheer determination and ability to stretch himself at the highest level. He adapted beautifully to the larger US 2 1/2 trolley aisles. :thumbsup
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I laughed out loud to this.
Very funny Tiga well done. :clapping
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im hoping he plays most games this season. sort of like we did with conca and ellis. start him at hb after all its not as if he hasnt played there. if not hb give him a run from the bench thru the midfield.
if he shows enough the other one id like to see get early games is mcintosh. especially if grimes misses early games.
its likely we wont be playing two rookies out of the backline early in the yr though so vlastuin to midfield and mcintosh as a replacement for grimes.
its not likely to happen but i really would like to see us line up down back with
Morris - Chaplin - grimes.
Mcintosh - Rance - Batchelor/vlastuin/Ellis/Helbig reckon Helbig would make a great aggressive accountable rebouding defender.
Theres lots of options for that last hbf role depending on the requirment.. imo vlastuin is one of those options.
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but helbig was a HFF as a junior :huh
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but helbig was a HFF as a junior :huh
was he thats news to me.
if your going to take cheap shots at least get the facts right.
from the above i take it you think helbig cant play in defense.
hard nosed accountable pacy mid whos good in contested situations with good disposal and vision. seems to me he has all the requirements to make a damn good defender with the added bonus of him being able to rotate thru the midfield. he started 10 kg below where he needed to be he now about right.
have often said we should not be drafting flankers in the hope of turning them into mids. but we should be drafting genuine mids and utilising their talents on the flanks.
i take it your having a shot over the mcintosh thread. get over it.they said we needed genuine mids and tried to tell us mcintosh was a mid. there is a pretty clear distinction between drafting a genuine mid and drafting a tall defender in the hope of turning him into a mid. most sensible people have no problem making that distinction. seems you cant or choose not to.
i have never said mcintosh will not or cannot become a mid but seriously questioned their thinking in taking him as one.. as it is i see mcintosh as a more accountable birchall type.he may even play kp.reckon ive said hes a decent pick where we took him and he certainly as a tall defender fills a need.
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when did they say we needed "genuine mids?"
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when did they say we needed "genuine mids?"
:lol :lol :lol that's just Claw believing he is Actually a list consultant for the club :whistle
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but helbig was a HFF as a junior :huh
was he thats news to me.
if your going to take cheap shots at least get the facts right.
from the above i take it you think helbig cant play in defense.
hard nosed accountable pacy mid whos good in contested situations with good disposal and vision. seems to me he has all the requirements to make a damn good defender with the added bonus of him being able to rotate thru the midfield. he started 10 kg below where he needed to be he now about right.
have often said we should not be drafting flankers in the hope of turning them into mids. but we should be drafting genuine mids and utilising their talents on the flanks.
i take it your having a shot over the mcintosh thread. get over it.they said we needed genuine mids and tried to tell us mcintosh was a mid. there is a pretty clear distinction between drafting a genuine mid and drafting a tall defender in the hope of turning him into a mid. most sensible people have no problem making that distinction. seems you cant or choose not to.
i have never said mcintosh will not or cannot become a mid but seriously questioned their thinking in taking him as one.. as it is i see mcintosh as a more accountable birchall type.he may even play kp.reckon ive said hes a decent pick where we took him and he certainly as a tall defender fills a need.
just winding you up claw, take some supplements and chillax once in a while :cheers
i'm a helbig fan and he needs to find a spot somewhere, not sure his disposal is quite up to a HB role, but it's better than most back there so why not
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I actually reckon he'd make a better HFF
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:shh
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Yes - defensive HFF is all the rage.
Could work.
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Yes - defensive HFF is all the rage.
Wrong.The Peptide 6 is now all the rage apparently.
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Yes - defensive HFF is all the rage.
Could work.
What about a defensive HFF who rolls through as a genuine hard nosed mid? I'll supply the plaster
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What did we all think of Tigga's first game in Y&B as our first pick in last year's draft?
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Fairly disappointed he didn't break jackson's legs. Not sure what he was doing out there
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From twitter:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDCrLVYCUAIPQXp.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/GingerTiger3/status/301929386230304768/photo/1
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Looks the goods does Nick.
Very impressive.
Maybe a tad early to say but me thinks he looks like he might slip through to round 1.
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what about the dudes on Big Footy complaining before we drafted him that he is too vanilla? Whatever the
fu stuff that means.
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what about the dudes on Big Footy complaining before we drafted him that he is too vanilla? Whatever the fu stuff that means.
He's got something that all good AFL players have got and thats "time". Will be a good player for us for a long time.
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has to play rnd 1.
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has to play rnd 1.
Agree! Would make a great Sub IMO....
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actually, if he can keep showing something through the pre-season id be starting him with the view of subbing him off when he tires, and if someone else deserves to be subbed of he gets a full game.
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He's got a few tricks. 8) Boy can play.
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Should have drafted 8 others ahead of him. :whistle 8)
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Youngster shines for Richmond
Richmond has nine players from other AFL clubs on its books this year, but one addition who could also have an impact was picked up at the draft table. Nick Vlastuin is still only 18, but looked a very likely customer last night, ending with as many disposals as any teammate, nearly half of them contested. Captain of Vic Metro in last year's under-18 championships, Vlastuin has shown at junior level a liking for the harder stuff, and seems quite capable of carrying that over into the higher level.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/good-sign-in-north-defence-20130222-2exk0.html
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:shh
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Was very impressive, hard at it, clean and very good decision maker.
If this is what we can expect then it can only be a positive for our midfield rotations this year.
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Just the type of player you will love in your side
Can't wait to see him in the big stuff
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whoa, where the heck did we snaffle this kid from :shh, Im still coming down from the clouds after that blind turn then long bomb that edwards jumped on for goal, did anyone say he s an absolute tackling machine...FJ, you've done it again :clapping
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whoa, where the heck did we snaffle this kid from :shh, Im still coming down from the clouds after that blind turn then long bomb that edwards jumped on for goal, did anyone say he s an absolute tackling machine...FJ, you've done it again :clapping
Whoa :shh
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we made a mistake picking him first based purely on his toughness
we need skilled players
Hmmm......
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In fairness, there is a certain element of risk in making comments on things you know little about.
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In fairness, there is a certain element of risk in making comments on things you know little about.
:thumbsup
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VIDEO: Vlastuin interviewed after the games last night...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-23/vlastuin-post-match
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Excited about this one.
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Was impressive last night
Loved his attack on the footy and his obvious footy smarts
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Geez his head seems to be getting bigger. Not in an ego way either. :shh
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Clubs got a solid ranga brigade now.
Fiery and explosive, just like their playing :thumbsup
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Steal :shh
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How do you say Vlastuin?
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Monday, February 25, 2013
SO JUST how do you say the newest flame-haired Tiger Nick Vlastuin's surname?
The Dutch name is actually pronounced "Floss-tone", with an 'F' sound rather than a 'V'.
Vlastuin's father Chris was born in Dutch New Guinea, and his grandparents are from Holland.
It's Tiger time, says Dimma
Growing up, the 18-year-old's nickname was 'Tigger', after the Disney character in the Winnie the Pooh series.
But his Richmond teammates are in the process of inventing a new one that plays on his unusual surname.
"They say it's too close to Tigers," Vlastuin said, of the Tigger tag.
"I've got a couple of different ones, like 'Flossie' from 'Cotch' [Trent Cotchin], and Stevie Morris was trying to get up 'Fairy' the other week because of fairy floss but it didn't stick and he forgot about it."
Vlastuin is realistic commentators are likely to mispronounce his surname early in his career as he cuts his teeth at senior level.
But he doesn't care what they call him, "as long as they're calling my name out".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-25/how-do-you-say-vlastuin
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Vlastuin's dream within reach
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Monday, February 25, 2013
PLAYING an AFL game has been a dream for Richmond youngster Nick Vlastuin since he was four years old and chasing an Auskick ball in Melbourne's north-eastern suburbs.
On Friday night in the first round of the NAB Cup, he enhanced his chances of achieving that goal as early as March 28 with a performance that caught the eye.
It wasn't unexpected. The 18-year-old had already impressed in both the Tigers' clash with the Indigenous All Stars in Alice Springs and their intra-club the following week.
After an injury-free pre-season that followed his acquisition by Richmond at NAB AFL Draft selection No.9 overall, he's got himself in the best shape possible to run out against Carlton in round one.
"He's a massive chance, and it would be a good story considering our midfield, it's a pretty strong midfield," assistant coach Danny Daly told AFL.com.au last week.
"Damien Hardwick loves that sort of stuff so if you were to do the round one team now, he'd be in the 23 or 24 no problems at all."
That was before Friday night's games against Melbourne and North Melbourne.
In the 15-point win over the Demons, Vlastuin took some time to settle but stood out late in the first half when he delivered a neat kick to Tyrone Vickery.
Against the Kangaroos, he was a positive in the four-point loss with some sound work in the centre and a moment when he skilfully spun around Shaun Atley to punt the ball inside 50 and contribute to a Shane Edwards goal.
"He's doing everything right thus far," coach Damien Hardwick said afterwards.
"[Vlastuin] is really impressive, he's very, very hard, which we like, he uses the ball extremely well and he's only going to get better from here on in."
New faces delight NAB Cup crowds
So who is the Tigers' new red head, who was recruited as a medium defender but was starting in the centre bounces on Friday night and has a hardness comparable to Trent Cotchin?
Vlastuin captained Vic Metro last year and won All Australian honours after averaging over 16 disposals a game.
He was a member of the AIS-AFL Academy for two years, and credits the week he got to spend with Hawthorn as part of the elite program to why he has adapted to a professional environment so quickly.
Since landing at Punt Road, he's been doing about 90 per cent of the training load, which was enough for him to spend his initial days off sleeping.
But now the focus has changed from time trials to match stuff, he's able to do things other than that in his free time.
He surfs, with school holidays spent on the New South Wales coast on a borrowed surfboard instilling that interest.
He has shares it with Tiger teammates David Astbury, Daniel Jackson and Ben Griffiths, and his best mate who has a beach house in Torquay.
It's time for Tigers to roar: Hardwick
He hates being inside, and while he doesn't know what he wants to do post-football, he knows "it won't be behind a desk".
He lives at home with his mum and dad, Cecily and Chris, and his older sister Rachel – who is studying physiotherapy at La Trobe University – in the house he grew up in.
Their brother Tim lives in Sydney. He's six months into a career with the Australian Army as a graphical engineer, after a "gap year that went on for three".
They live in Eltham – a "Collingwood" area – so the kids grew up supporting the Pies. Collingwood premiership captain Tony Shaw even lived a few doors down.
His mum was born in outback New South Wales and his dad in Dutch New Guinea before the Vlastuins moved to Australia after World War II.
As for goals this year, Vlastuin only has to look as far as defender Brandon Ellis, who played 21 senior games in his debut season of 2012, for inspiration.
"If I got to do that, I'd be stoked," he said.
"It would definitely mean a bit [to play round one]. I just want to play footy at the highest level.
"I don't want to put a figure on it. I'll just hopefully do well in the NAB Cup and then get an opportunity."
After the hit-outs against Melbourne and North Melbourne, Vlastuin told the club's website he felt "pretty comfortable" towards the end of the second game after settling into the pace.
Vlastuin has applied himself to improving his endurance – an area considered a work in progress when he was drafted.
His step up in training as a Tiger has already produced impressive results.
"Coming into an AFL system for the young kids, it's always an issue with their endurance and Nick, like all of the young kids, still has a way to go," Daly said.
"But, I think he's about 25 seconds better than his first time trial that he did just after Christmas when they came back so he's on the right track."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-25/dream-within-reach.workstation
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VIDEO: Tiger cub Nick Vlastuin impresses in first outing
Watch NAB cup highlights of the Tigers first draft pick Nick Vlastuin:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-02-25/tiger-cub-nick-vlastuin-impresses-in-his-first-outing
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And finally, Vlastuin is at $31 to win the Rising Star award this year...
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/rising-star
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I only saw him beaten in 1 contest and that was marginal. We have a ripper in this bloke.
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I only saw him beaten in 1 contest and that was marginal. We have a ripper in this bloke.
Yep very impressed with Flossy, already penciled in for a number change down to #17 next year
It's just a such a shame he's not a pure mid
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Thought he'd be a crash,bash and bomb type player but I'm pleasantly surprised, seems to have a fair bit of skill to work with
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Good luck Nick, great to have you aboard
I hope the expectations don't outgrow your capabilities, as a few ppl are getting abit too excited.
I would just like to see you play injury free footy and hope you turn out to be an excellent player and don't get drawn into all the hype and unwanted pressure.
:thumbsup
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I only saw him beaten in 1 contest and that was marginal. We have a ripper in this bloke.
Yep very impressed with Flossy, already penciled in for a number change down to #17 next year
It's just a such a shame he's not a pure mid
What makes you say that Gerks? I thought he looked a natural in at the centre bounce and his hardness and desparation was first class. Looks like a good mover and decision maker too? And to top it off, his disposal was first rate I thought.
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I only saw him beaten in 1 contest and that was marginal. We have a ripper in this bloke.
Yep very impressed with Flossy, already penciled in for a number change down to #17 next year
It's just a such a shame he's not a pure mid
What makes you say that Gerks? I thought he looked a natural in at the centre bounce and his hardness and desparation was first class. Looks like a good mover and decision maker too? And to top it off, his disposal was first rate I thought.
Agree with you 61, was just taking the pee out of highlight reel fanboys that had labelled him a defender
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I only saw him beaten in 1 contest and that was marginal. We have a ripper in this bloke.
Yep very impressed with Flossy, already penciled in for a number change down to #17 next year
It's just a such a shame he's not a pure mid
What makes you say that Gerks? I thought he looked a natural in at the centre bounce and his hardness and desparation was first class. Looks like a good mover and decision maker too? And to top it off, his disposal was first rate I thought.
Agree with you 61, was just taking the pee out of highlight reel fanboys that had labelled him a defender
Yep, fair enough Mate. Looks the goods as an on-baller, that is for sure. Now if only we can get Foley back asap
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forget Foley
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He's quickly becoming one of my favorite players. At $31 could be worth a punt for the Rising Star. :thumbsup
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forget Foley
Foley is key.
Deledio. Cotchin. Martin. Foley.
Vlastuib. Conca. Ellis.
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He's quickly becoming one of my favorite players. At $31 could be worth a punt for the Rising Star. :thumbsup
Even better than the turn. Was his first contest from the bounce.
Attacked the thing like a.mad dog :bow :shh
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forget Foley
Ok then, if you say so!!! Talk about negative!!!
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He's quickly becoming one of my favorite players. At $31 could be worth a punt for the Rising Star. :thumbsup
Even better than the turn. Was his first contest from the bounce.
Attacked the thing like a.mad dog :bow :shh
Jack Grimes still trying to find his teeth at Etihad.
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forget Foley
Ok then, if you say so!!! Talk about negative!!!
even if a miracle occurs and foley has new ankles, he is in our best 22 anymore
he like white and jackson can not hit targets and are turn over kings
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forget Foley
Ok then, if you say so!!! Talk about negative!!!
even if a miracle occurs and foley has new ankles, he is in our best 22 anymore
he like white and jackson can not hit targets and are turn over kings
Foley can miss a target but makes up for it by extracting ball out of the centre.But to put his name in with Jackson and White is insulting to Foley. ::)
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forget Foley
Ok then, if you say so!!! Talk about negative!!!
even if a miracle occurs and foley has new ankles, he is in our best 22 anymore
he like white and jackson can not hit targets and are turn over kings
Foley can miss a target but makes up for it by extracting ball out of the centre.But to put his name in with Jackson and White is insulting to Foley. ::)
Some people have very short memories. He was a State player and in the All Australian squad of 40 for a reason he's a very very good player and would make every teams top 22 if fit.
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Agree he can miss targets but Jackson and White do that 50m in the clear, Foley does it bursting out of a pack under immense pressure
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Professing my love for Vlastuin.
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Professing my love for Vlastuin.
Joining you!
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Got pinged twice for holding the ball, albeit one questionable, but so refreshing to see a new kid take the game on. Looks like he has been in an AFL system for a couple years. He'll sit down with the coaches and watch the videos and show him where he can fix the little things and will only get better. Man I love this bloke already! Stuff who else we could have drafted. He's going to be a jet.
Woah, Vlastuin and Morris, what is this, the Expendables 3? :shh
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I loved the way he sensed the occasion and tried to break that tackle and win the game. Didn't work this time but it will plenty of times in the future given this kid's ability. Future Star.
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Ready made and banging the door down to play round 1. Scarey to think he'll still just 18 and will only get better. FJ has done very well again with another of our first round picks.
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I loved the way he sensed the occasion and tried to break that tackle and win the game. Didn't work this time but it will plenty of times in the future given this kid's ability. Future Star.
Was thinking about that and I thught the exact thing. At least he went about it trying to do the right thing. Will work more often than not and today it didn't work for him but it will in the future alot more times than it won't.
Should play round 1. Let me repharase that I think he will play Round 1.
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Richmond recruit Nick Vlastuin is raw but ready for senior football
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
March 05, 2013
RICHMOND draft find Nick Vlastuin says he's no guarantee of a Round 1 debut, but coach Damien Hardwick begs to differ.
Vlastuin again looked comfortable in Richmond colours on Saturday night and, after his fourth consecutive display of quality, a clash against Carlton in Round 1 looms.
Last year's Vic Metro captain and No.9 draft pick added to solid outings in the club's last intra-club match, against the Indigenous All-Stars and in the triangular NAB Cup match.
"He is an impressive kid. He doesn't get too carried away with his performance and he's hard and tough and that's exactly how we like them at Tigerland," Hardwick said.
"He is going to be a player we think is going to be a long-termer for us."
Vlastuin credits a summer of toil alongside Richmond's midfield stars for his quick progression.
"It's NAB Cup Round 2, so the teams have played their younger players, but I will find out next week if I am in then and hopefully Round 1 as well. It's been good so far," Vlastuin said.
"I have been excited about (debuting) since I first started practising my footy.
"(Fellow midfielder) Matty Arnot said today we have played against (Trent) Cotchin and (Brett) Deledio all summer and they are some of the best midfielders in the league, so we shouldn't be out of our depth when we play against (Jobe) Watson and guys like that."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-recruit-nick-vlastuin-is-raw-but-ready-for-senior-football/story-e6frf9jf-1226590246669
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What else u got, MT ?
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What else u got, MT ?
For an 18 year old, Floss looks like being a gun, Ox :thumbsup.
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I reckon we've been guilty of over hyping our blokes in the past, but I'm real excited about Vlastuin. Looks like he's been around a couple years. Cool head, not scared to have a dip and take the game on already, good head, and great disposal.
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Can see why he was Captain.
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can we make him play like Daniel Kerr ?
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can we make him play like Daniel Kerr ?
Nice
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I reckon he would eat Daniel Kerr if they served him up on top of a nice salad. ;D
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Vlastuin will be rested this week.
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Vlastuin will be rested this week.
noo0o0o0o0
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The coaches have liked what they've seen. They know Flossy can play at this level. No point pushing an 18 year old needlessly in every preseason match before the season even starts.
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Hardwick said while Vlastuin needed to learn where to run to gain more possessions, his toughness and good ball use were great starting ingredients.
"He's got some things that you look at him and go 'Wow, this kid could be a very good player for us,"' Hardwick said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hardwick-predicts-a-breakout-season-for-martin-20130312-2fy8j.html#ixzz2NL2CJH2P
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Equal 9th favourite now for the Rising Star award at $19.
Source: Centrebet
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Tigers' top pick set to play
Emma Quayle
The Age
March 25, 2013
Richmond is set to introduce its top draft pick in the season opener for the fourth consecutive year, with Nick Vlastuin likely to line up against Carlton on Thursday night.
The Blues and Tigers will meet on similar terms selection wise, with both missing just two players from their first-choice line-ups.
Carlton cannot yet consider Jarrad Waite, who has a calf complaint, while the club suspended Heath Scotland for its first two matches after he pleaded guilty to an assault charge last year.
Richmond defender Dylan Grimes, returning from a serious hamstring injury, played his second VFL match on Sunday but the four-day turnaround means he will probably be saved for round two.
Veteran Tiger Nathan Foley is nearing the final stages of recovery from the Achilles tendon he tore last season.
Vlastuin is one of at least three potential new Tigers, with former Port Adelaide defender Troy Chaplin, recruited as a free agent last year, likely to play after returning from knee surgery midway through the NAB Cup.
Ex-Demon Ricky Petterd has made a strong impression at half-back and was upgraded from the rookie list last week, along with ruckman Orren Stephenson.
Vlastuin was Richmond's first selection at No.9 in the national draft and his head-down playing style has endeared him to his coaches and teammates.
If selected, the 18-year-old, recruited from the Northern Knights, would join Dustin Martin, Reece Conca and Brandon Ellis as first-round picks to play round one.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-top-pick-set-to-play-20130324-2gnzp.html#ixzz2OVhe9rUL
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Dimma stated very early on during Pre-season that players would have to earn their spots in the team for game one given the competition for positions. I thought our new 18yr old recruits would have no chance of earning a spot with the strength of our list.
Vlaustin has impressed from the first game I saw him play with not only his endevour but also his decision making. He seems to have an old head on young shoulders. I feel, based on form, he will make a great additonal to the midfield rotations (or as a sub at the very least).
Great effort by the lad and great to see that we are finally making some astute choices with our ND picks! :clapping
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It's a bit of a nothing article.
Note the "If selected to play" at the end. This isn't a scoop; just another piece of speculation.
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The day our first round draft picks can't walk into the side round 1 is the day our list is finally strong. I like Vlastuin, but if he can play then surely the rest of the list isn't much chop.
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The day our first round draft picks can't walk into the side round 1 is the day our list is finally strong. I like Vlastuin, but if he can play then surely the rest of the list isn't much chop.
I disagree. Often many of the top teams debut their draft picks in round 1.
Debutants bring enthusiasm and a window to the future!
The guy can play. Would rather him than some that have been tried and failed on the big stage!
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Just play the best 22. Who knows, he might end up as good as Joel Selwood.
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The day our first round draft picks can't walk into the side round 1 is the day our list is finally strong. I like Vlastuin, but if he can play then surely the rest of the list isn't much chop.
Yeah sort of agree although I think Nicks a bit different than conca and ellis
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He will play and could be the X factor player we are after, would love to see him play a great cameo in this game, certainly earned his spot during the pre season, flown under the blues radar a bit I think!
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The day our first round draft picks can't walk into the side round 1 is the day our list is finally strong. I like Vlastuin, but if he can play then surely the rest of the list isn't much chop.
Joel Selwood anyone. :shh
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The day our first round draft picks can't walk into the side round 1 is the day our list is finally strong. I like Vlastuin, but if he can play then surely the rest of the list isn't much chop.
Yeah sort of agree although I think Nicks a bit different than conca and ellis
I really like the kid and have huge wraps on him, but who is he leaving out? Jackson? White? Arnot? Helbig? Foley is injured so I'll concede on that one. One or two more of these blokes and we'll be laughing.
Would love to win round 1 but I just feel going in with green kids we're just a little under powered.
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Has potential to do what mitch robinson did in his first game against us back in RD 1 2009.
That awful night Mitch had 7 kicks, 6 handballs, 4marks, 3goals, 6 tackles and 4 I50. From memory i think he lined up on either Tambling or McMahon, so that might explain a bit.
Vlastuin is young, tough, hard into contests and finds the ball.
If he plays and he's matched up against a first gamer he will likely dominate.
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Would actually like to see him line up on Garlett or one of the indigenous fellows!! Shut that run down.
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Would love to win round 1 but I just feel going in with green kids we're just a little under powered.
You don't become captain of VM if your a mug.
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Vlaustin - 22 possessions, 5 inside 50s
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Round 1 -> Coburg
Coburg Football Club He did play, solid game. 6 tackles 20 odd touches.
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Flossy did no play this week :o
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Did he need a rest?
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I don't think so...
If Richmond played on Saturday and Coburg on Sunday Vlastuin and Bachelor could have played for the Burgers and stopped a 100 point loss.
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I wonder if he had the flu :huh
Chutney told me a couple of blokes were crook last week with the flu/bad colds
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I wonder if he had the flu :huh
Chutney told me a couple of blokes were crook last week with the flu/bad colds
He was at the game. If he had the flu or bad cold he should've been at home i would imagine.
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The media is saying Floss could make his debut this week.
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The media is saying Floss could make his debut this week.
reckon he is a lock to come in for Morris
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The media is saying Floss could make his debut this week.
reckon he is a lock to come in for Morris
Good call ;D :thumbsup
Vlastuin in the mix
By Nathan Schmook
1:21pm AEST Tuesday, April 23, 2013
RICHMOND'S prized draft selection Nick Vlastuin is a strong chance to make his debut against Fremantle on Friday night with at least two changes expected for the Tigers' trip to Patersons Stadium.
Vlastuin shapes as a likely replacement for small defender Steven Morris.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-23/vlastuin-in-the-mix
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Chocco's cup watch
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-26/choco-cub-watch-vlastuin
'...It's not like he's walking around with a big head or anything...'
lol, yes he is, it's freaking huge!! :lol
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Chocco's cup watch
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-26/choco-cub-watch-vlastuin
'...It's not like he's walking around with a big head or anything...'
lol, yes he is, it's freaking huge!! :lol
:lol :lol :lol lmao it's enormous. Can run through brick walls with that head. No wonder he's so tough.
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hopefully he runs though a couple of purple jerks tonight
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hopefully he runs though a couple of purple jerks tonight
Ballantyne. If it bleeds you can kill it. :clapping
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Vlastuin ready for big-time action
By richmondfc.com.au
11:22am AEST Friday, April 26, 2013
Richmond development coach Mark Williams has some advice for the Club’s highly-rated, young midfielder, Nick Vlastuin, as he prepares to make his AFL debut in tonight’s Round 5 clash with Fremantle at Patersons Stadium . . .
“Just go and show us some of the stuff that he can do,” Williams said in his ‘Roar Vision’ feature series ‘Choco Cub Watch’.
“Everything he does will be a bonus right at the start.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-26/vlastuin-ready-for-bigtime-action
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Really pleased with his hard at it attitude and tackling, Didnt get much in that 2nd quarter though. Wouldnt be surprised he if he subbed off late in the 3rd, but I recon they should keep him on and give him a true chance.
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Should have ben in since round 1.........,
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He is kicking arse great debut thus far keep it up son
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Should have ben in since round 1.........,
but the leadership group said he had to earn his spot :lol
spot on golfpro
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Drifted out of the game in the second half which isn't a surprise for a first gamer who hasn't played at AFL intensity for 4 quarter before. Showed enough there in the first half to get excited about once he plays a season or so and builds up his tank.
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One effort out on the wing running back into the pack was unbelievable courage for a first gamer, it was his tackling example that seemed to spur on the others to put in the same amount of effort, he will be a very valuable player for the tigers for years to come.
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I thought his tackling was very impressive.
His in and under was great too. A hard nut. Will be great for us in years to come. :thumbsup
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Boy is a keeper
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Drifted out of the game in the second half which isn't a surprise for a first gamer who hasn't played at AFL intensity for 4 quarter before. Showed enough there in the first half to get excited about once he plays a season or so and builds up his tank.
not really.. he was on hill and tagged him out of the game
this kid is gold
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What a pick up. Exactly the kind of player we need and he's only just been drafted !!
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This bloke can play, and his tackles stick.
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Great positive.
Ferocious tackling and looks like a leader at only 18.
Well done recruiting staff.
Ellis also improving.
Terrific game by him tonight.
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too vanilla.
just another jackson safe pick.
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:rollin
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No idea what game u nuffers were watching. Dud delist :shh
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Disappointed he didn't kick the winning goal in the dying seconds, don't know if I will ever get over it
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Didn't run through Ballentyne.
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Didn't run through Ballentyne.
True that's two strikes
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good to see him get through the game
without knives protruding from the supporters.
good kid, and people claiming him to be a keeper
after 1 game, a number 9 draft pick, so if he played
crap do we toss him.
ease up..
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should have taken someone else in the draft :banghead
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Floss shows a fair bit of poise with the ball and a good attack at the footy for kid in his first year (showed up a few of his more senior teammates in those areas). Racking up 20 possies (9 contested) at 75% efficiency and with 5 tackles in just your second game is a very good effort.
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Along with Ellis and hopefully when Conca returns there are a few very talented young players at Tigerland.
I'd like to see McBean get a run for the experience.
Ideally, one of Astbury, Elton or Griiffiths would just explode all of a sudden - we are desperately missing a KPP at either end of the ground.
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Along with Ellis and hopefully when Conca returns there are a few very talented young players at Tigerland.
I'd like to see McBean get a run for the experience.
Ideally, one of Astbury, Elton or Griiffiths would just explode all of a sudden - we are desperately missing a KPP at either end of the ground.
Elton is the best chance the other two are marking time at the moment. Astbury hasnt shown anything even though have to admit he has been cruelled by injury, Griff seems to either not care anymore or he's totally out of confidence. McBean looks a nice player in the making.
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Along with Ellis and hopefully when Conca returns there are a few very talented young players at Tigerland.
I'd like to see McBean get a run for the experience.
Ideally, one of Astbury, Elton or Griiffiths would just explode all of a sudden - we are desperately missing a KPP at either end of the ground.
Elton is the best chance the other two are marking time at the moment. Astbury hasnt shown anything even though have to admit he has been cruelled by injury, Griff seems to either not care anymore or he's totally out of confidence. McBean looks a nice player in the making.
Astbury played a very good game against the bombers. His marking and ball use was very good. Deserves a recall. Griff played well but needs to get more of the ball. McBean is very impressive but don't rush him
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I thought astbury was excellent yesterday against Essendon in the vfl
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Officially a gun! :bow
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Yes, should have played since day dot!!!!
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Man crush.
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Will be better than Cotchin
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Man crush.
Could master bate over
:bow :bow
Dead set fast Michael vosd
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Will win rising star for sure massive impact playing well beyond his years
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Ooh it's like having Dusty Cotch and Lids combined.
A lot of man love there. Love The Floss.
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Will win rising star for sure massive impact playing well beyond his years
Only thing that will deprive him from that is an AFL agenda to get a kid from GWS across the line to promote the game out in the Sydney Sticks.
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WOW we have a superstar i the making on out hands with this bloke
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this bloke was born to play ..for Richmond
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What a gun
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What a gun
But an obvious pick up - FJ had no idea and simply flunked the pick. :banghead
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He is a great. He is a gun. He will be a champion. He will finish up after 300+ games and be a Richmond legend. :cheers :clapping :thumbsup :gotigers
Alot of manlove for this bloke.
Never thought I'd fall for a redhead. ;D
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:bow :bow :bow.
Fantastic to see him in yellow & black. :cheers
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He made Cam Mooney look like one of those shrunken heads, massive bonce!
Gun kid, Vlastuin>>>>Toumpas :lol
Another future leader.
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Would just about jag a fanta-pants just to think of him
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I can't remember seeing a bloke come out and play like Vlas straight up like this, I mean Dusty was good but this bloke is hard, skilled and playing like a bloody Vet
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orgasmic
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Would just about jag a fanta-pants just to think of him
Lmao
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It will be hard to snatch the Rising Star Award from O'Meara but this bloke will give him a run for his money.
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KB will give Vlastuin 5 votes and The Jag 0 votes!
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KB will give Vlastuin 5 votes and The Jag 0 votes!
Gotta love the KB.
And Floss! :gotigers
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KB will give Vlastuin 5 votes and The Jag 0 votes!
And then defend the undefendable for 3hours a day on his radio program like only KB can ;D
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VIDEO: Flossy's give-and-go goal :thumbsup
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-06-03/round-10-vlastuin-give-and-go
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:bow
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Shane Edwards superb in that passage.
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Great game. He is very composed.
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He is a gun. Can't believe he didn't start in the 18 in round 1
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Snip. Leave the non-topical personal chit-chat to PMs. Back to the topic...
Nick Vlastuin @nickvlastuin twitter:
"Feeling this sore and tired after the redeye home is only made better by the awesome win and all the messages from everyone."
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Can't believe so many bagged his selection in last years draft
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Looks as tough as a bag of rusty nails but has platinum finishing class. It's impossible to believe he is 19.
I hope he doesn't get a big head over all of this publicity!
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Just finished seeing the game on tv - obviously the replay. Outstanding game again and the goals were terrific the first one with the give and go and getting it back to goal to put us infront. That was a great goal. The long distance goal was a good goal too and the snap was great. Have no doubt he is the next A Grader on our list.
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Still pinching myself we managed to snaffle him, great work FJ.....again :clapping
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Can't believe so many bagged his selection in last years draft
too vanilla.... not enough X factor..... another "safe" pick
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Hardwick prototype.
Fantastic!!
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Can't believe so many bagged his selection in last years draft
too vanilla.... not enough X factor..... another "safe" pick
I'll put my hand up, some of my exact words. Very pleased at how he is coming on :clapping
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I hope he doesn't get a big head over all of this publicity!
Too late! :lol
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(http://i.minus.com/iblKECY7Z4KYMp.gif)
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fair dinkum..this kids highlight reel is like that of a 300 game veteran..this kid scares me as to how good he can be.....Now who is dustin martin again?
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That's the thought that I had last night after watching the replay.
After all these kids - Vlastuin, Ellis, Conca, Helbig - get a few games with the older midfielders - Cotchin, Lids, Foley, Edwards, Martin, Grigg even Jackson - we may see some stunning displays like the goal from Flossy.
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Off to a great start. At the very least looks like he'll be a 200 game footsoldier. Maybe a lot more in time.
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Centrebet Rising Star odds
O'Maera - $1.65
Vlastuin - $3.75 :clapping
Wines - $11.00
Mitchell - $11.00
Mullett - $15.00
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Wines is just a fat prick
Flying dutchman :bow
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Wines is just a fat prick
Flying dutchman :bow
:clapping
Got hounded down by neutrals on BF for saying Vlastuin >> Wines just before draft. :whistle
But Big Tigs is never wrong and Big Flossy was never gunna let him down. :shh
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Wines is just a fat prick
Flying dutchman :bow
:clapping
Got hounded down by neutrals on BF for saying Vlastuin >> Wines just before draft. :whistle
But Big Tigs is never wrong and Big Flossy was never gunna let him down. :shh
:lol :clapping
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Vlastuin flying
By richmondfc.com.au
Thursday, June 6, 2013
The impact talented Tiger teenager Nick Vlastuin has had in just six games of AFL football is further highlighted through a statistical comparison with Richmond’s star midfield trio of Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Dustin Martin, at the corresponding stage of their league careers.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-06/vlastuin-flying
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Come on KB no vote's J.O'Meara. :lol
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Nick Vlastuin's stunning performances since making his debut for Richmond in round five have seen him amass the seventh-highest score of all debutants despite playing only six games.
TOP 10 DEBUTANTS IN 2013
Player Club Position Matches Points
Jaeger O'Meara Gold Coast mid 10 100.2
Oliver Wines Port Adelaide mid 10 96.1
Sam Dwyer Collingwood mid 9 87.3
Mark Blicavs Geelong ruck 10 79.2
Lachie Whitfield GWS Giants mid 9 77.7
Nick Vlastuin Richmond def 6 77.5
Jake Neade Port Adelaide fwd 9 74.9
Brett Goodes Western Bulldogs def 8 74.1
Matt Jones Melbourne mid 10 69.4
Dean Terlich Melbourne def 9 68.7
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-06/jaeger-leads-all-newcomers
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Vlastuin made Crawf's Supercoach All-Australian team:
BACKS
Brendon Goddard (starting price $541,500, average 103, price change -$38,200)
Pearce Hanley ($485,200, av 105, +$31,700)
Michael Hibberd ($395,100, av 99, +$96,500)
Dylan Roberton ($254,100, av 84 ,+$142,800)
Nick Vlastuin ($159,500, av 92, +$254,500)
Brett Goodes ($128,200, av 91, +$251,000)
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-all-australians/story-fndv7pj3-1226662017542#mm-breached
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Nick Vlastuin @nickvlastuin twitter:
"Very happy to extend my time at the tigers, congratulations to the others and hopefully alot more to follow. #tiggytrain #gotiges"
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“My manager just said to me Richmond have put forward a deal, and I just said straight away, yeah, I’d be happy to take anything . . . I don’t want to go anywhere,” Vlastuin said on “Sportsday”.
“I just feel it’s great down at Richmond. We’ve got a good list of players, so I just said to them straight away I’d be happy to sign.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-21/tigger-thrives-with-the-tigers
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good boy
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Should his number be changed to the 17 at seasons end?
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I reckon he should keep his current number and make it his own. Its not as if he's carrying no 74 or something. He has a good number IMHO.
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I reckon he should keep his current number and make it his own. Its not as if he's carrying no 74 or something. He has a good number IMHO.
Agree. He is doing Brendan Bower justice in the number 31.
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Theres nothing wrong with 31 as a number. It would be great if Vlastuin plays 250 games in 31 and makes it a famous Richmond jumper. Just my opinion.
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Should his number be changed to the 17 at seasons end?
Reckon he's a great chance seeing that other thing the RFC used to do with number that I'm not allowed to mention anymore no longer exists ;D
But don't think it will at seasons end as such will be after the various drafts = pre-season 2014
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#31 good number 8)
Long live the dutchman
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Should his number be changed to the 17 at seasons end?
Reckon he's a great chance seeing that other thing the RFC used to do with number that I'm not allowed to mention anymore no longer exists ;D
But don't think it will at seasons end as such will be after the various drafts = pre-season 2014
Captaincy?
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Should his number be changed to the 17 at seasons end?
Reckon he's a great chance seeing that other thing the RFC used to do with number that I'm not allowed to mention anymore no longer exists ;D
But don't think it will at seasons end as such will be after the various drafts = pre-season 2014
Captaincy?
:-X :-X
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Not a big stats game all up but I thought Flossy with his efforts at crucial stages was important to us getting back on top in the 3rd quarter with the game on the line. That mark running with the flight of the ball into the defensive goalsquare was a gem.
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when we needed leadership and someone to stand up and stop taking the hits and pressure from the hawks
it wasnt cotchin, martin or deledio
it was vlas
he is our next captain already
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Agree. Loved his game. Attack on the ball was an example to be followed.
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Was our loose player in defence and not only got to nearly all contests but influenced them positively for us also. Fantastic first year by the kid. :thumbsup
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Give Vlastuin the number 17 jumper.
That mark in the final quarter needs to be shown to all players.
:gotigers
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boy oh boy can this kid play, Nicky V, now that's a name to remember....he wont look out of place as the RFC captain one day holding a premiership cup aloft amid a sea of Y&B :shh
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Theres nothing wrong with 31 as a number. It would be great if Vlastuin plays 250 games in 31 and makes it a famous Richmond jumper. Just my opinion.
I agree 100%
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Dutchman >Jager
:shh
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Tyro Vlastuin feeling the finals fever
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Monday, August 12, 2013
NICK Vlastuin might have been at Richmond for less than a year but he knows how special the Tigers' upcoming finals campaign is going to be.
The 19-year-old, who is rapt to have already exceeded his own expectations to play 15 games in his debut season, wants to make sure he appreciates the opportunity the Tigers have this year as much as his older teammates do.
Brett Deledio has told him he has never played in a season where the team has won more than 11 games. Chris Newman has spoken of the fact that he has not played in a final in 13 seasons.
So Vlastuin is determined to enjoy what now awaits, with Saturday's win over the Brisbane Lions ensuring they will play finals for the first time since 2001.
"You can sense it around the club. Everyone is a bit relieved as well that we are there and we are playing well," Vlastuin told AFL.com.au.
"All the supporters, they always say good luck in September, it's been so long … they're all so happy.
"They're all trying to keep the lid on it though.
"'Newy' had a talk to all the boys and he said how big of an opportunity we have.
"We probably don't realise how big of a deal it is because I've come straight into it and he's had 13 years.
"I probably haven't appreciated it as much as they would."
Recently, Vlastuin has noticed he has been training in front of crowds as big as those that watched him play for the Northern Knights in the TAC Cup last year.
Experiences like that, along with playing his first AFL game in round five and running out onto the MCG in front 84,234 spectators in round nine's Dreamtime at the 'G, remind him he's living his dream.
But he knows that playing in a final will supersede all of that, as well as winning the NAB AFL Under-18s national title with Vic Metro.
"This [finals] game, if I do play, that's easily going to be the most important game of my life.
"It's weird to look at it that way … but everything I've done before doesn't really matter to that day."
Vlastuin has missed just one game since his debut – round 14 against St Kilda, with a bruised shin forcing him out.
He tried hard to prove his fitness but couldn't really run throughout the week. The day before the game, he strode out at training and the pain flared again.
He was due for a rest anyway, with the fitness staff keen to look after his young body as the season wore on.
As the only first-year player getting a senior game at the moment, Vlastuin's training program has changed slightly in recent weeks to allow him more time to recover.
He is doing fewer drills and shorter sessions than some of his teammates, with preservation and maintenance the main focus.
"It's more about management than not doing it. I wouldn't miss a full session," he said.
"In the main training, if we have eight drills, I might only do six of them. And I'm feeling good - still holding together."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-12/finals-fever
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Leppitsch on SEN today talking about Vlastuin ...
* I think his body will be fine and he’ll handle the rigours. Form always fluctuates with kids. We tend to look at their positives in their first year, because we haven’t got anything to compare them to. As their career go on, you start to iron out the little chinks in their game. Nick’s had some games where he’s been quieter, but he’s going to be a long-term player for us. So we’ll continue to play him and back him in, whether it be on the half-back line, where he’s been recently, or I think he’ll eventually be an inside ‘mid’, which is his ultimate strength.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-22/vlastuin-up-for-the-battle
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After a bit of a lull and looking tired about a month ago, Flossy looks like he's found his second win late in the season. Very good today across half-back and impressive for a first year player to work hard running back defensively.
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After a bit of a lull and looking tired about a month ago, Flossy looks like he's found his second win late in the season. Very good today across half-back and impressive for a first year player to work hard running back defensively.
I wanted Grundy with our first pick and whilst he will be an exceptional player we haven't lost anything by choosing this kid.
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Has loads of courage and uses the ball well. Tough as nails and as has been mentioned a Michael Voss type of extractor of the footy. Class player and am not disappointed from the moment I saw this kid put our jumper on. His reputation is rising by the game. That Hawthorn game a few weeks back was awesome. :thumbsup
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Already a B+ player on my rankings and will be going to an A in the next 12 to 18 months if he continues with his current rate of improvement and experience.
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Star, and McAvaney is an arse muncher for jinxing his shot at goal. :banghead :banghead
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9? Goals for a first year player mostly playing HBF is a good return
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The more I watch this kid the more he amazes me.I have to keep reminding myself hes a first year player and yet my expectations of him during a game go well beyond that.
His courage is at another level already.he will tackle anything within reach ,and when he chases ,he chases to kill
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Nick, I think is a blend of Ellis, Dusty and Conca.
I just can't pick any players style he reminds me of.
Maybe someone else has a better comparison.
Either way he is a gun on the rise in a BIG way.
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Think Michael Voss
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The more I watch this kid the more he amazes me.I have to keep reminding myself hes a first year player and yet my expectations of him during a game go well beyond that.
His courage is at another level already.he will tackle anything within reach ,and when he chases ,he chases to kill
Great call
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The more I watch this kid the more he amazes me.I have to keep reminding myself hes a first year player and yet my expectations of him during a game go well beyond that.
His courage is at another level already.he will tackle anything within reach ,and when he chases ,he chases to kill
Great call
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Kid backs into packs and the wonderful thing is he impacts the contest positively and in many cases cleanly for us. Let alone his decision making and use of the footy. A gem. :thumbsup
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Can someone explain how Flossy can't make a top 10 best first-year players' list? :huh3
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/vote-now-on-the-real-rising-star-of-2013/story-fnelctok-1226709104068
Here's Flossy's stats:
Played: 17
Disposal: 16.2 (276 in total)
Marks: 4.7 (80)
Tackles: 3.2 (54)
Goals: 9
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2363
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Anti-Richmond poofs that's how
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Can someone explain how Flossy can't make a top 10 best first-year players' list? :huh3
:huh
Maybe because he has slotted into the side seamlessly and already plays like a veteran and they just forgot about him?
Kommer fkg lol!!! :rollin
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLzHjt7CcAIGaLP.jpg)
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:lol
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7 votes for Vlastuin
O'Maera won it and our man Kommer was 2nd :lol
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7 votes for Vlastuin
O'Maera won it and our man Kommer was 2nd :lol
Crouch was second and Wines third.
Mullet and Mitchell equal fourth.
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Rubbish
Vlastuin is clear second best
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Crouch was second best by a mile.
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Rising Star final leader board:
1. Jaeger O'Meara 44 (out of 45)
2. Brad Crouch 31
3. Ollie Wines 26
4. Aaron Mullett 11
4. Tom Mitchell 11
6. Nick Vlastuin 7
7. Lachie Whitfield 3
8. Brodie Grundy 1
9. Sam Mayes 1
https://www.facebook.com/AflOffSeasonInformationSeasonNews/posts/382052585257272
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Callum Twomey @AFL_CalTwomey twitter:
"Nick Vlastuin's mum Cecily says his nickname 'Tigga' came from Winnie the Pooh - he would get knocked down & then bounce up. #NABRisingStar"
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Rising Star final leader board:
1. Jaeger O'Meara 44 (out of 45)
2. Brad Crouch 31
3. Ollie Wines 26
4. Aaron Mullett 11
4. Tom Mitchell 11
6. Nick Vlastuin 7
7. Lachie Whitfield 3
8. Brodie Grundy 1
9. Sam Mayes 1
https://www.facebook.com/AflOffSeasonInformationSeasonNews/posts/382052585257272
How did Ollie Wines get so many votes? He was good at the start of the season but faded as the season progressed. Also Ollie Wines has a fat face
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Ollie man boobs
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VIDEO: Flossy's press conference at the Rising Star Award today ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-04/vlastuin-rising-star-press-conference
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'Tigger' Vlastuin says Tigers are primed for finals
By Roger Vaughan
afl.com.au
9:16pm AEST Wednesday, September 4, 2013
NICK Vlastuin was still a toddler when his mother nicknamed him Tigger.
Cecily Vlastuin was not being an incredible AFL prophet, but rather comparing his energy to the bouncing, boisterous Winnie the Pooh character.
After an impressive debut season with Richmond that earned him an NAB AFL Rising Star nomination, "Tigger" Vlastuin will play for the Tigers this Sunday in their long-awaited elimination final against Carlton.
It is Richmond's first finals appearance since 2001.
More than one teammate has noted that while Richmond veteran Chris Newman has had to wait more than a decade for his first taste of September, Vlastuin, 19, has only waited for 23 weeks.
"Everyone has been saying how lucky I am, how fortunate," Vlastuin said on Wednesday.
"I followed Collingwood growing up, so there were plenty of finals with them.
"But then 'Newy' has waited 13 years, I think ... I couldn't imagine that."
Vlastuin is enjoying the build-up to his first final, but admits the growing excitement among the Tigers faithful has caught him off-guard.
"It's a lot more full-on and a lot more fans than I thought there would be," he said.
The Blues beat the Tigers by 10 points in round 21 - Richmond's most recent loss. Vlastuin said this time, Carlton will not take the Tigers by surprise.
"We made a good start and they fought back," he said.
"We're definitely not going to underestimate them again."
Vlastuin said the squad was nearing peak fitness for the must-win final, set to be played in front of a packed house at the MCG.
"A couple of weeks leading up to that game (against Carlton in round 21) we were training pretty hard," he said.
"All the boys were pretty sore.
"The last couple of weeks, we've backed that off a bit because of finals.
"Getting the body right and little tweaks in the game plan, stuff like that - hopefully we'll be flying."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-04/tigger-ready-for-tigers
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Fast Michael Voss :shh
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VIDEO: Vlastuin's 2013 review ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-09-17/vlastuin-2013-review
“To get through a whole season, as a first-year player, has been pretty hard,” Vlastuin told ‘Roar Vision’.
“The last couple of weeks, I was in survival mode.
“Even ‘Dimma’ (Damien Hardwick) said to me, ‘You’re not going to get fitter, you’re not going to get stronger’. It was just about maintaining what I had and trying to survive, really.
“I’d been pretty sore and doing a lot of recovery . . .”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-09-17/survivor-with-eye-of-the-tiger
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Love this bloke :cheers
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"I hate them that little bit more now" :lol
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"I hate them that little bit more now" :lol
:banghead I hate those pricks a lot more now and I wish the playing group would take the same attitude. :banghead :banghead
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Looking forward to seeing him running round around in No. 17 next year
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Looking forward to seeing him running round around in No. 17 next year
or 4.
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Looking forward to seeing him running round around in No. 17 next year
Would look good in #17 :thumbsup
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Or 26. Woah :shh
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Looking forward to seeing him running round around in No. 17 next year
or 4.
:nope :nope
If Martin leaves (which is still not det n stone) I exepct number 4 to have a season off
Vlaustin represents all the things that made number 17 the revered number it was/is
And seeing the policy of "the captain wears 17 at Richmond" has gone for now, Vlaustin should get number 17 and once he is captain in 5-7 years time ...well everything old will be new again ;D
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Or 26. Woah :shh
Wow. They are baggy shorts to fill!
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I hope he keeps 31. It just seems the right number for him.
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I hope he keeps 31. It just seems the right number for him.
One Ronald Dale Barassi certainly didn't mind wearing it at Melbourne. :shh
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Looking forward to seeing him running round around in No. 17 next year
or 4.
:nope :nope
If Martin leaves (which is still not det n stone) I exepct number 4 to have a season off
Vlaustin represents all the things that made number 17 the revered number it was/is
And seeing the policy of "the captain wears 17 at Richmond" has gone for now, Vlaustin should get number 17 and once he is captain in 5-7 years time ...well everything old will be new again ;D
I share the same view he will be the next captain, I hope we have much success in this time :thumbsup
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I hope he keeps 31. It just seems the right number for him.
One Ronald Dale Barassi certainly didn't mind wearing it at Melbourne. :shh
Don't bring Shitbourne traditions to Tigerland thanks. :-X
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Vlaustin represents all the things that made number 17 the revered number it was/is
And seeing the policy of "the captain wears 17 at Richmond" has gone for now, Vlaustin should get number 17 and once he is captain in 5-7 years time ...well everything old will be new again ;D
Works for me.
:cheers
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Will be the Cult figure at Tigerland for the next 12 years. Love the player
FEARLESS, SMART, SKILLS, = very good footballer :thumbsup
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Vlastuin acclaimed
richmondfc.com.au
October 3, 2013 1:36 PM
Richmond’s recruiting manager Francis Jackson took great pride in presenting the Club’s first draft pick in the 2012 National Draft, Nick Vlastuin, with the Cosgrove-Jenkins award, as the Tigers’ best first-year player, at last Monday night’s Jack Dyer Medal.
After detailing Vlastuin’s key football statistics for the year, Jackson was quick to point out that they didn’t tell the whole tale of the impact he had in his debut league season.
“He showed tremendous qualities in other areas . .
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-03/vlastuin-acclaimed
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Vlastuin a “veteran”
richmondfc.com.au
October 17, 2013 3:12 PM
“It’s like he’s played 100 games already,” Hardwick said.
“We love his decision-making, he’s composed with the ball and, more importantly, wins the ball, which is something a lot of players struggle to do, especially when they first come into the system. So, we’re really pleased with what he brought to the table . . .
“He’s got to get a little bit more outside ball. Obviously, he wins his own ball, but we’d like him to get some ball on the outside because he actually makes really good decisions with it.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-17/vlastuin-a-veteran
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Expect him to hit the gym and come out bigger, meaner and better....can't wait!
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Don't forget redder ;D
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Vlas is quickly becoming my favourite tiger
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Don't forget redder ;D
:lol
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5 seasons - Nick Vlastuin
Wednesday March 27
There are reasons to think he might, maybe, get to play in the round-one team. Nick Vlastuin keeps running through them in his head.
He has played in all of the pre-season games but one, and he only missed that match because he needed a rest. He hasn’t asked the coaches whether he has been doing all the things they want to see him doing, but they haven’t brought anything up, or given him any reason to think he isn’t on the right track. At a press conference yesterday Damien Hardwick was asked whether he would play and the coach said he was “thereabouts,” which made Nick wonder whether he was closer to being in, or closer to being out.
http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2013/5seasons/Vlastuin.html
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Only skimmer through but what an awesome read :cheers will read it fully when I get home.
So it was his fault in freo :shh :lol
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Love this lil ranga.
Nice interview about his first few weeks at the club here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-20/vlastuins-draft-memories
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Says in the interview that Aidan Corr wanted to come to Richmond as well.
Where is he (GWS?) and when is his contract up? :whistle
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Thought he would of bulked up a bit more, still looks pretty lean in the boxing video.
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He hasn’t asked the coaches whether he has been doing all the things they want to see him doing, but they haven’t brought anything up, or given him any reason to think he isn’t on the right track. At a press conference yesterday Damien Hardwick was asked whether he would play and the coach said he was “thereabouts,” which made Nick wonder whether he was closer to being in, or closer to being out.
Great attitude.
Leaders attitude!
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Glad this guy is a tiger!!
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Thought he would of bulked up a bit more, still looks pretty lean in the boxing video.
Hes already big and strong enough imo wat, probably staying lean bc he really needs to step up his endurance to be able to get more ball outside as well.
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Thought he would of bulked up a bit more, still looks pretty lean in the boxing video.
Hes already big and strong enough imo wat, probably staying lean bc he really needs to step up his endurance to be able to get more ball outside as well.
Yeah I suppose, I think I forget how young he is... :thumbsup
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Nick Vlastuin had a DE of 66% under physical pressure - No.1 of any player who averaged at least 15 touches at Richmond. #composure
https://twitter.com/AnthonyGilberg
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Scary to think it will get better.....scary for other clubs that is.. ;D
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Vlastuin an instant hit
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
January 2, 2014
In terms of raw numbers, Nick Vlastuin’s debut season of AFL football at Richmond was pretty impressive – 18 games, including the elimination final against Carlton, an average of 16.3 disposals and 4.8 marks per match, and a sixth-placed finish in the competition’s prestigious Rising Star award.
But, as Richmond’s Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson pointed out at the 2013 Jack Dyer Medal night, when he presented the Club’s Cosgrove-Jenkins award to Vlastuin, for being the Club’s best first-year player, the stats didn’t tell the whole tale of the influence the talented Tiger teenager exerted throughout his initial league season.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-01-02/vlastuin-an-instant-hit
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Nick Vlastuin had a DE of 66% under physical pressure - No.1 of any player who averaged at least 15 touches at Richmond. #composure
https://twitter.com/AnthonyGilberg
I don't think this has been discussed enough. A first year player with this sort of composure playing in a highly pressured role of HBF pushing into the midfield - that's incredible. Usually players come into the system fumbling and turning the ball over nervously. Flossy is going to be our Voss :thumbsup
Just continues our recruiting philosophy of not taking highlight reel players but rather getting solid performers with good footskills, attitude and character. :cheers
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Vlastuin better prepared in 2014
richmondfc.com.au
March 27, 2014
A full year in the AFL system has been a significant benefit for rising Richmond star Nick Vlastuin.
The talented teenager, who made such an impact in his 2013 debut year of league football, feels so much better prepared – both on and off the field – for his second season at the game’s highest level.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-03-27/vlastuin-better-prepared-in-2014
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Great game by Vlastuin tonite. One of the few tigers to stay calm and composed when our leaders got shut down and everyone else was panicking. Playing well when nobody else on your team is = Uphill skiier
Future skipper
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Reminds me of a young Vossy.
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good call Y&B
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Need a few more of him. Young champ.
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couple of attempted kicks off the deck that were really poor when he should have put his head over it
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yeah, and he had a few mates in that area :banghead :banghead
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Was one of our few solid performers last night. Just gets it done with no fuss.
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Yep, 2nd year blues not really effecting him. Will be very good.
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Yep no frills does the things the way they should be done with no fanfair but he is excellent at it. Has a great pair of hands also and can take a nice grab. Love this kid. :thumbsup
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Comfortably the best of the last three first rounders and actually looks a steal for an pick outside the top 10.....also good to he didn't just kick the ball off the ground once last night....let's hope he keeps it up and we don't ruin him as well.
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Better than Morris
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Needs to move into the midfield. His time has come. :bow
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Needs to move into the midfield. His time has come. :bow
Agree
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Gun. Love him. Tough as poo.
Will play midfield soon enough
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Gun. Love him. Tough as poo.
Will play midfield soon enough
Isn't poo usually soft? ;D
Lennon to come in and release Vlastuin to the midfield. We need more class…..
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Gun. Love him. Tough as poo.
Will play midfield soon enough
I see what you did there
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20 will be gun me thinkd
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:lol poo probs not the right word but you know what I mean. I like the boy a lot.
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One of a few who could hold his head high again.
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Was at the game. Thought he was our best.
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One of a few who could hold his head high again.
Isn't that the cue to say wouldn't blame him if he went to a successful club
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Wouldn't blame him if followed Cotchin & Martin to successful clubs after next year.
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Wouldn't blame him if followed Cotchin & Martin to successful clubs after next year.
What about lids
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Was at the game. Thought he was our best.
As per usual
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Wouldn't blame him if followed Cotchin & Martin to successful clubs after next year.
What about lids
Brief swansong at his beloved Carlton....sometime after 30.
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Another who I thought had a fantastic game when the heat was on.
Just a shame that late brilliant Murdoch goal took the shine of a fine performance.
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I was just angry nobody was there to help him. He was having a genuine crack as always. Can hold his head up for sure. So much composure...
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Another who I thought had a fantastic game when the heat was on.
Just a shame that late brilliant Murdoch goal took the shine of a fine performance.
Just on the Murdoch goal which was brilliant
I hope Dimma shows that to our players - we need players to show that desperation. Murdoch just didn't give up and look at the result. Our players need to understand that is the norm not the exception
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Not his fault just not quick enough.
Murdoch's goal was due to speed nothing else.
We are slow as all stuff out there
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Not his fault just not quick enough.
Murdoch's goal was due to speed nothing else.
We are slow as all stuff out there
Murdoch is above average pace anyway not many can keep up with him from what I hear. I dont blame Vlastuin he was fantastic yesterday. Yesterday we lost the game in the first 45 minutes of the match when we didnt turn up to play.
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One of those moments where you thought "tigeritis" was taking over. Worked his way through it though. :clapping
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Another who I thought had a fantastic game when the heat was on.
Just a shame that late brilliant Murdoch goal took the shine of a fine performance.
Just on the Murdoch goal which was brilliant
I hope Dimma shows that to our players - we need players to show that desperation. Murdoch just didn't give up and look at the result. Our players need to understand that is the norm not the exception
Add the poor defending at the stoppage which allowed the ball out too easily allowing Selwood space to kick a centering ball which lead to the goal.
On Flossy - I thought he was one of the few that played well over the whole four quarters. When we were stuffing around with the footy and undersiege in that first qtr, Flossy was one who stood up in defence with clean hands and disposal and going in hard to win the footy. I hope he gets more of a run in the guts as the season progresses rather than spending most of the game in defence.
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Future Brownlow and Norm Smith medalist :bow
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Plays like a veteran. :bow
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Plays like a veteran. :bow
slow?
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The only criticism I have of him this season is he seems not to be able to break clear/evade very easily. I notice that when a player is close to tackling him, they generally do. I don't think hes that slow on the whole but his initial burst off the mark needs a lot of work. Needs to improve that power to put that metre or 2 break on opponents in close.
or maybe its just fatigue and he doesn't have the miles in the legs yet, I remember his diary on his first year, mentions the word pain and general fatigue a lot
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Plays like a veteran. :bow
slow?
Composed. :thumbsup
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geez, at risk of sounding like claw, i think he is making a lot of "baby mistakes".
sometimes his desision making making/execution leaves a bit to be desired, but i am not worried about it. seen enough to suggest he will grow out of it and become a very good player, but he's far from Midas at this point
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I think he will make an excellent inside mid one day. Love his attitude.
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Scratching my head to try and find as aspects of his game which have improved from last year (which was very good).
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get this kid in the midfield..cotch,miles vlas should be the A team in the middle for the rest of the season..cameos by dusty
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One of the few who can actually play and wants to.
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One of the few who can actually play and wants to.
Stands out like dogs balls.
More often than not he is patient, has poise and finds the RIGHT TARGET.
Hasn't been infected with Richmonditis yet. I'd suggest quarantine.
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Really need one for the back pocket and one on ball
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Newman to hand Vlastuin the No.1 jumper to him at seasons end!
Leave him off the half-back line. He can play. Not sure if he has the pace for the midfield. Hardness? Yes he has.
Develop his pace and build his possessions.
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C'mon all of you, the coach will wait until he is completely wasted before he try's him as a mid. Can't you see what's happening, he try's to turn all our players into backmen first, subsequently stuffing them up. But he and some here say it's all about developing their defensive side....... :banghead
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C'mon all of you, the coach will wait until he is completely wasted before he try's him as a mid. Can't you see what's happening, he try's to turn all our players into backmen first, subsequently stuffing them up. But he and some here say it's all about developing their defensive side....... :banghead
I think it's great to put em in defence first. later in his career when hes playing mid, his experiences in the backline will urge him to run back harder as he knows the pressure they can be put under. also improves his tackling, pressure.. all that good stuff that we dont have.
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C'mon all of you, the coach will wait until he is completely wasted before he try's him as a mid. Can't you see what's happening, he try's to turn all our players into backmen first, subsequently stuffing them up. But he and some here say it's all about developing their defensive side....... :banghead
I think it's great to put em in defence first. later in his career when hes playing mid, his experiences in the backline will urge him to run back harder as he knows the pressure they can be put under. also improves his tackling, pressure.. all that good stuff that we dont have.
For how long though, that's the problem, then he try's to turn them back into a backman later. If any kid like Vlastuin shows what he has to date then throw him in the middle, he only has to clear the ball. But FFS give him a go...
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One of the few who can actually play and wants to.
Stands out like dogs balls.
More often than not he is patient, has poise and finds the RIGHT TARGET.
Hasn't been infected with Richmonditis yet. I'd suggest quarantine.
What is the Richmonditis you speak of? Is it a variation of Tigeritis?
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I'd be putting Nicky V straight into the midfield with matt dea taking his spot on the HBF , do it :shh
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I'd be putting Nicky V straight into the midfield with matt dea taking his spot on the HBF , do it :shh
X2
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C'mon all of you, the coach will wait until he is completely wasted before he try's him as a mid. Can't you see what's happening, he try's to turn all our players into backmen first, subsequently stuffing them up. But he and some here say it's all about developing their defensive side....... :banghead
I think it's great to put em in defence first. later in his career when hes playing mid, his experiences in the backline will urge him to run back harder as he knows the pressure they can be put under. also improves his tackling, pressure.. all that good stuff that we dont have.
I don't agree. Go through the history of the game and tell me how many of the best mids were started in the backline. The answer is hardly any. Voss, Black, Lappin and Akermanis, Burgoyne, Pendlebury, Swan, Beams, Hayes, Judd, Ablett, etc etc etc etc etc.
This is complete tripe and it ends up stripping the player of their natural attacking and goal kicking instincts. You don't have to go to the back half to learn how to defend. You must learn to defend all over the ground no matter where you are. That can be done playing in your best position. History shows that many of the best mids end up finishing their careers as a backline player as the slow down a little but they don't start there.
I just don't agree with this way of coaching. Every player must defend when they don't have the ball, not just the backs.
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C'mon all of you, the coach will wait until he is completely wasted before he try's him as a mid. Can't you see what's happening, he try's to turn all our players into backmen first, subsequently stuffing them up. But he and some here say it's all about developing their defensive side....... :banghead
I think it's great to put em in defence first. later in his career when hes playing mid, his experiences in the backline will urge him to run back harder as he knows the pressure they can be put under. also improves his tackling, pressure.. all that good stuff that we dont have.
I don't agree. Go through the history of the game and tell me how many of the best mids were started in the backline. The answer is hardly any. Voss, Black, Lappin and Akermanis, Burgoyne, Pendlebury, Swan, Beams, Hayes, Judd, Ablett, etc etc etc etc etc.
This is complete tripe and it ends up stripping the player of their natural attacking and goal kicking instincts. You don't have to go to the back half to learn how to defend. You must learn to defend all over the ground no matter where you are. That can be done playing in your best position. History shows that many of the best mids end up finishing their careers as a backline player as the slow down a little but they don't start there.
I just don't agree with this way of coaching. Every player must defend when they don't have the ball, not just the backs.
You are my new hero :bow....also look at Swallow both of them and the kid from GWS....O'Mera....right in the guts of it! WC DO THE SAME, so do most other clubs.....oh except for us..
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I'd be putting Nicky V straight into the midfield with matt dea taking his spot on the HBF , do it :shh
This no brained makes no sense to hardwick
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Yep its getting to the stage where the least soft should be picked
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I'd be putting Nicky V straight into the midfield with matt dea taking his spot on the HBF , do it :shh
X2
X3
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As an alternative half back,people might want to have a look at is hellbig.he's been quite solid this year without being spectacular and will give almost as much hardness as morro
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Maybe G, thought Dea showed a bit of touch in the ressies Saturday, was plucking marks like he was picking cherries
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yes dea was good
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But Vlaus has already been tried in the middle, don't any of you watch the games? Against Hawthorn he played most of the third quarter in the middle, he was the one getting clearances, remember now?
Anyway, I agree completely- we need to get Nick into the middle, now! Goodbye Grigg, replaced by Nicky V in the middle. Dea comes in at HB. Houli goes too & Helbig gets a crack as well.
So its Out :- Scooby & Shaggy, In :- Deazer & Helboy. Could they do any worse? ;D
(don't get me started on Hampson & Vickery, but Ivan could replace both by himself ... when ready.)
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Vlastuin's return a timely boost for troubled Tigers
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
June 3, 2014 6:59 PM
RICHMOND has received a timely boost with young star Nick Vlastuin available to return from a finger injury ahead of schedule for Sunday night's clash against North Melbourne.
Vlastuin has been sidelined for two matches after undergoing surgery on a break in his right hand, but he completed training on Tuesday and has been cleared to return.
The 20-year-old was initially expected to miss between three and five matches, and his early return is a timely dose of good news as pressure mounts on the Tigers.
"I got the all clear from the doc, so I’m pretty pumped [to return]," Vlastuin told richmondfc.com.au on Tuesday.
"It was my first session back today, in the wet, which is not really what you want with a hand injury, but it went well."
Vlastuin, who played the first eight games of the season before injury struck, has maintained his fitness levels while sidelined, missing only one week of training because he wasn't allowed to sweat.
The tough half-back said it had been frustrating to watch from the sidelines as the Tigers notched a big win against Greater Western Sydney in round 10, only to capitulate against Essendon one week later.
"The GWS game was tough to watch, because the boys were having such a good time," he said.
"Last week I just wanted to be out there to help them. It wasn’t fun in the stands."
Vlastuin enjoyed a strong debut season, playing 18 of 23 games including the Tigers' final against Carlton.
He has averaged 16 disposals, five marks and three tackles this season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-03/timely-boost-for-tigers
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The best thing Vlastuin and Rance can do is leave this club before its too late for a successful career.
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Another gem. Future captain.
Rance, Floss, Dea, Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Ivan, Jack, Astbury, Miles, Conca.
Build a side around that.
The rest do a bargain basement garage sale and lets see what "quality" we can get.
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He has composure that so few of his team mates do. Think he is one who will genuinely rise above the murky waters.
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Another gem. Future captain.
Rance, Floss, Dea, Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Ivan, Jack, Astbury, Miles, Conca.
Build a side around that.
The rest do a bargain basement garage sale and lets see what "quality" we can get.
Yes at least its some sort of spine to build around
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The best thing Vlastuin and Rance can do is leave this club before its too late for a successful career.
:lol :clapping
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(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Articles/vlastuin620.jpg)
Courtesy of afl.com.au
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Go somewhere else and they can be superstars!
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Looks good around the same pack as miles
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This guy, honestly...
On the wing. Ball coming. Looks behind and sees a Port and Rich player coming full speed. Says F it I'm going for the mark anyway, whether I get smashed or not.
What a kid. Example to the rest of the team.
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Always know what you're going to get from Flossy. Will be a beast of a bloke in a couple years and hopefully he still has the flat top by then too.
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Always know what you're going to get from Flossy. Will be a beast of a bloke in a couple years and hopefully he still has the flat top by then too.
Solid again last night playing the sweeper role. Flossy doesn't take a backward step going for the footy.
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Hodge/Voss. Hybrid. Beautiful
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I heart him
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@AFL twitter:
"Vlastuin cops a whack as he shows great courage going back with the flight of the ball #NABChallenge"
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/571568577460883458
Nick Vlastuin @nickvlastuin
"@AFL was kinda hoping it looked a lot tougher than that. Show it slow mo or different angle guys?"
;D
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lol cheeky bastard
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Was tough as f***
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Tough as nails. Leadership material. :thumbsup
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Tough no question but his disposal was rubbish. Hopefully an aberration.
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
He's a better player than that unfortunately.
I don't mind him playing where he is, he provides a contest and has better skills than Morris.
Edwards is the crumbling small forward we've been crying out for, they just have to leave him there!
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He's a good mark. Could potentially be a mid-size forward. Remember him jagging a few in his first year - seemed to have great goal sense and a good set shot.
Worth a try imo but as usual we'll 'wait til he develops a tank then put him in the midfield' like Martin. Hell they're even talkin about Lloyd playing midfield lol.
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
He's a better player than that unfortunately.
I don't mind him playing where he is, he provides a contest and has better skills than Morris.
Edwards is the crumbling small forward we've been crying out for, they just have to leave him there!
Enough said really. I think we should try him.
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Like Martin there's merit in playing him off half back, even forward too, but also like Martin he's needed most in the guts. Another one we need to clone.
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2 things I want to see Vlastuin improve immediately.
1 - His initial burst/first step as he takes possession - we know hes a unit, if he can get a bit of explosiveness into the quads and with his strength he'll be brushing them off and creating space for our runners, atm he gets swamped and cant get it out effectively.
2 - Got to tidy up his kicking skills. He's got good technique and looks like a good kick most of the time but seems to miss a lot of targets. Reckon its just sloppiness? either way its something he needs to focus on now before it becomes an issue.
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
Why change his position from where he has always played?
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
Why change his position from where he has always played?
Are we allowed to change players positions?
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What are peoples thought about trying this guy in the forward line as the crumbing forward we lack??
Get Morris in the back line and use Vlas forward??
Why change his position from where he has always played?
Are we allowed to change players positions?
Depends on the player, you need to ask confirmation from WAT. So far I have gathered you can't change Lambert around but you can change Vlaustin. Keep me updated
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I think it's ok to play players in different positions if the move is WAT's idea.
If someone could tell Damien this, that'd be great.
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Well why not, he seems to move them around why cant we????
I don't agree with his moves, but the Vlas one could work...I will cal him.
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I like your lateral thinking WAT
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Flossy on Crocmedia's Sportsday...
* Over the course of the pre-season, I’ve just done all my work pretty much with the defenders, and feel a lot more comfortable there. In previous years, I felt I’d been babied a little bit by the older players, just as far as voice goes in a game. I’d always be quiet and just try to learn. Whereas this year, I’m feeling a lot more comfortable to talk around stoppages and talk to one of the other boys if I think they’re in the wrong spot or something like that. We’ve got a good, solid back six and we’re all very comfortable with each other.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-24/vlastuin-in-good-nick
http://www.crocmedia.com.au/we-entertain/programs/sportsday-victoria/
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Flossy on Crocmedia's Sportsday...
* Over the course of the pre-season, I’ve just done all my work pretty much with the defenders, and feel a lot more comfortable there. In previous years, I felt I’d been babied a little bit by the older players, just as far as voice goes in a game. I’d always be quiet and just try to learn. Whereas this year, I’m feeling a lot more comfortable to talk around stoppages and talk to one of the other boys if I think they’re in the wrong spot or something like that. We’ve got a good, solid back six and we’re all very comfortable with each other.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-24/vlastuin-in-good-nick
http://www.crocmedia.com.au/we-entertain/programs/sportsday-victoria/
Solid back six???
Rance, Vlastuin, Houli, ?, ?, ?......
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Flossy on Crocmedia's Sportsday...
* Over the course of the pre-season, I’ve just done all my work pretty much with the defenders, and feel a lot more comfortable there. In previous years, I felt I’d been babied a little bit by the older players, just as far as voice goes in a game. I’d always be quiet and just try to learn. Whereas this year, I’m feeling a lot more comfortable to talk around stoppages and talk to one of the other boys if I think they’re in the wrong spot or something like that. We’ve got a good, solid back six and we’re all very comfortable with each other.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-24/vlastuin-in-good-nick
http://www.crocmedia.com.au/we-entertain/programs/sportsday-victoria/
Solid back six???
Rance, Vlastuin, Houli, ?, ?, ?......
And what happened Saturday against the Roos?
They'd better look at improving before playing the scum.
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10 goal win or the world caves in eh Tiggeritis?
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Vlastuin should eventually make his way into the middle he has all the talent to become a very good midfielder.
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Flossy on Crocmedia's Sportsday...
* Over the course of the pre-season, I’ve just done all my work pretty much with the defenders, and feel a lot more comfortable there. In previous years, I felt I’d been babied a little bit by the older players, just as far as voice goes in a game. I’d always be quiet and just try to learn. Whereas this year, I’m feeling a lot more comfortable to talk around stoppages and talk to one of the other boys if I think they’re in the wrong spot or something like that. We’ve got a good, solid back six and we’re all very comfortable with each other.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-24/vlastuin-in-good-nick
http://www.crocmedia.com.au/we-entertain/programs/sportsday-victoria/
Solid back six???
Rance, Vlastuin, Houli, ?, ?, ?......
Ummmm....I'd add Astbury to the list I guess but yeah the other two hmmmmmmm :huh :huh
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Vlastuin should eventually make his way into the middle he has all the talent to become a very good midfielder.
For me we don't have enough composed heads in the back line. At his best Vlastuin is a great kick and good user of the ball. Players like Hodge or Enright have spent the bulk of their careers in the backline setting up attack and keeping opposition scores down. I don't see why Vlastuin can't be that player.
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
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Vlastuin should eventually make his way into the middle he has all the talent to become a very good midfielder.
For me we don't have enough composed heads in the back line. At his best Vlastuin is a great kick and good user of the ball. Players like Hodge or Enright have spent the bulk of their careers in the backline setting up attack and keeping opposition scores down. I don't see why Vlastuin can't be that player.
Nope. Middle.
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
It would give u the poos after a minute.
Everyone acting like they know and own you.
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
Good mate of Tom Boyd who was surfing with him
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
It would give u the poos after a minute.
Everyone acting like they know and own you.
I know what you mean. I really only said it because I thought he would like to know there are some supporters who haven't turned ferrel.
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Good Onya mate. U were coming from a good place. :thumbsup
It's the idiots that spoil it for others :snidegrin
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
It would give u the poos after a minute.
Everyone acting like they know and own you.
lets get real here, if he was anywhere else no one would know him from a bar of chocolate.
Good on you and poo to Floss, he could have given you a nod or sum fink
I saw grigg and newman out one night gave them a mini salute got nada, couple of tossers
Me...I am pretty famous (IMHO) and give the love to everyone!!
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Pretty shy sort of kid isn't he?
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did vlastuin even have any fink to spare?
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Heard Jake King knows a few Finks...
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Batfink?
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Batfink?
...and Karate!
(http://cloud.graphicleftovers.com/12009/67933/karate-tiger.jpg)
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
Good mate of Tom Boyd who was surfing with him
Nick Vlastiun is mates with Tom Boyd.. What a shame.
Won't find a worse bloke than Tom Boyd. Enjoys the smell of his own farts does Tom.
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
Good mate of Tom Boyd who was surfing with him
Actually Boyd wasn't there
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
Good mate of Tom Boyd who was surfing with him
Who doesn't?
Nick Vlastiun is mates with Tom Boyd.. What a shame.
Won't find a worse bloke than Tom Boyd. Enjoys the smell of his own farts does Tom.
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Saw vlastuin at the surf yesterday arvo. gave him a 'go tiges!!! :gotigers' as I was driving off and didnt even crack a smile from him.
I know you cant expect players to always be happy and perhaps he had a shockin surf.. but just made me feel he wasnt happy to be recognised as a tiger.
Good mate of Tom Boyd who was surfing with him
Nick Vlastiun is mates with Tom Boyd.. What a shame.
Won't find a worse bloke than Tom Boyd. Enjoys the smell of his own farts does Tom.
Who doesn't? Nothing wrong with a little crowd pleaser
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You can't give it a score out of 10 without a quick sniff yourself
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You can't give it a score out of 10 without a quick sniff yourself
Let's be honest, there's Nothing more satisfying than expecting to squeeze out a, say 5-6 and pushing out a surprise 9. Then get a good vantage point to watch friends and family members reactions as they drift into the danger zone. Like walking through soup.
But I digress......
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:lol :lol
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:lol
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Love the way he plays especially when he tries to mark rather than spoil in defence. When he can eliminate those silly errors he is prone to he will be very good. I might be in the minority here but i'd like to see him stay down back for at least this year. Seems to naturally read the play better from behind the ball.
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
Can't be too bad if he's surfing on the days off ;)
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
I just think he stagnated after his first year. Maybe bagged is a strong word as he has been okay but not stepped up from year 1.
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
I just think he stagnated after his first year. Maybe bagged is a strong word as he has been okay but not stepped up from year 1.
still does some good things, in his less good games imo
him and miles gives hope
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
I just think he stagnated after his first year. Maybe bagged is a strong word as he has been okay but not stepped up from year 1.
I think he can't get better having to blanket opposition forward line players every week. He needs to be moved into the middle before he gets too used to playing down back.
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We talk about potential a lot at Richmond. Not the kids fault but then.....
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
I just think he stagnated after his first year. Maybe bagged is a strong word as he has been okay but not stepped up from year 1.
I think he can't get better having to blanket opposition forward line players every week. He needs to be moved into the middle before he gets too used to playing down back.
i agree should have been in the midfield some time ago
yet our backline will be significantly weaker
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solid as a rock
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solid as a rock
Yep love this kid. Has a real presence. To me he plays and has the demeanour like he's already the leader of the back 6.
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He s as tough as a $5 steak this kid , I wouldn't wanna stand in his way , is developing a fearsome reputation :shh
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Is really stepping it up the past several weeks. Good to see him developing nicely. Put in a couple of big strong spoils and went hard at a few key 50/50 contests which stopped the dockers in their tracks
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Not just tough. Has a lot of class.
Could be the next Rob Harvey if he builds his engine and gets the opportunity.
Stuffing whoa lads :gotigers
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Not just tough. Has a lot of class.
Could be the next Rob Harvey if he builds his engine and gets the opportunity.
Stuffing whoa lads :gotigers
Yep. Love the way he doesn't panic in close when he gets tackled. Resulted in him getting done holding the ball a few times over the last couple years but as he is getting stronger that composure is resulting in him getting his hands free and making great decisions under pressure.
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He was impressive last night. Would like to see this kid in the guts sometime soon
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When he gets a the ball in hand I instantly relax because I know he will do the right thing 9 times out of 10.
Absolute jet! :clapping
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I've been expecting more from him
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More like it from him tonight, great game.
Have bagged the guy but hear he is taking pain killing injections and Is playing with a juiced up ankle each week
why did you bag him?
i dont think hes ever played bad
I just think he stagnated after his first year. Maybe bagged is a strong word as he has been okay but not stepped up from year 1.
I think he can't get better having to blanket opposition forward line players every week. He needs to be moved into the middle before he gets too used to playing down back.
best for vlastuin - mid
best for richmond - defender?
it is not easy to find a deledio replacment to release Lids. vlastuin has pretty much held down the quarter back role
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Grimes talking about Floss:
“I think he’s just been grooming himself to be a premier defender of, not just our club, but the competition. The transition he’s made has been pretty sort of linear. He’s improved again this year, as like he did last year, and I think we’ll keep seeing that trend going upwards. He’s become a really important player for us and I think he’ll continue to be so going forward.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-18/vlastuin-making-major-strides
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Grimes talking about Floss:
“I think he’s just been grooming himself to be a premier defender of, not just our club, but the competition. The transition he’s made has been pretty sort of linear. He’s improved again this year, as like he did last year, and I think we’ll keep seeing that trend going upwards. He’s become a really important player for us and I think he’ll continue to be so going forward.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-18/vlastuin-making-major-strides
Zlatan talking about Floss:
why not put him in the god dam center bounce in stead of a bloody potato
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Floss is playing his 50th tomorrow night :clapping.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2363
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I have been watching this bloke closely and noticed a significant improvement in his game the past 5-6 weeks culminating in his best game for the club tnight. :clapping
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I even watching this guy closely
And he's been a gun since day one
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Will be the next player to move into our elite group if he hasn't already.
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Will be the next player to move into our elite group if he hasn't already.
Nope, miles
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Miles is not elite. Very good footsoldier like Tuck. Tight scrappy matches like tonight's suit him.
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Miles is an elite contested ball winner. Not finisher. Very good player that impacts games
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Miles is not elite. Very good footsoldier like Tuck. Tight scrappy matches like tonight's suit him.
Not elite now
But miles only 23, 35 games :shh
Vlastuin is my favourite
Big Dutch head
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Miles is an elite contested ball winner. Not finisher. Very good player that impacts games
I hate agreeing with you but I think your on the money here dancing girl ;D
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Not everyone has to be a finisher
Elite contested ball winners can be a grade
Priddis won the medal
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Miles is an elite contested ball winner. Not finisher. Very good player that impacts games
Agreed. When he is up so is the side. Adds that extra hard inside midfield use of the footy.:thumbsup
Floss is just as hard but is played in the backline as he is good overhead and is great and clean as a spare man also. Reads the play really well and is made of tough stuff. If we can somehow manufacture a situation to put this kid in the midfield also. ;D
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Best game of his career so far for mine. Really sound and dependable tonight. A number of key marks and spoils in defence tonight with his excellent reading of the play. Turned defence into attack with his attack on the footy. Far from our worst in the first half too.
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Far from our worst in the first half too.
He & Riewoldt were easily our best in the first half IMO.
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Miles is an elite contested ball winner. Not finisher. Very good player that impacts games
Agreed. When he is up so is the side. Adds that extra hard inside midfield use of the footy.:thumbsup
Floss is just as hard but is played in the backline as he is good overhead and is great and clean as a spare man also. Reads the play really well and is made of tough stuff. If we can somehow manufacture a situation to put this kid in the midfield also. ;D
Someone has fill deledio shoes :clapping
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flossy popped up when it counted. Real solid performer down back. Not too sure about Batchlor recently
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Best game of his career so far for mine. Really sound and dependable tonight. A number of key marks and spoils in defence tonight with his excellent reading of the play. Turned defence into attack with his attack on the footy. Far from our worst in the first half too.
Agree, well said. :thumbsup
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Can't wait till this kid gets some more midfield time. Won or halved every contest last night!
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Yes, best game he has played.
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Epic game by Floss the Boss!!!! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
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I have been watching this bloke closely and noticed a significant improvement in his game the past 5-6 weeks culminating in his best game for the club tnight. :clapping
No coincidence this has happened as he approached 50 games.
Very few players have any real impact on games until they get this number of games under their belt, but even allowing for that there were times i thought he should be showing more. Just how much he has shown in the past month is a pleasant surprise and the thought of how much he may improve over the next 50 games is a tantalising prospect
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Spot on.
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Can't wait till this kid gets some more midfield time. Won or halved every contest last night!
He is more valuable in defense. Best move Hardwick has made in his coaching career is Vlastuin to the backline.
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Can't wait till this kid gets some more midfield time. Won or halved every contest last night!
He is more valuable in defense. Best move Hardwick has made in his coaching career is Vlastuin to the backline.
In starting to think the same
Like hodge 2008
:cheers
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Played his football there as a junior and captained Vic Metro from that position.
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General rommell :bow
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Solid performer is the kid :thumbsup
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Took a good defending mark :clapping
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Flossy is turning into a very solid midsized defender and rebounding half-back. Another good game from him tonight.
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Flossy is turning into a very solid midsized defender and rebounding half-back. Another good game from him tonight.
Saved us a few times tonight
Dependable as a rock :bow
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Outmuscled Kreuzberg for a beautiful Mark tonigh :snidegrin
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Outmuscled Kreuzberg for a beautiful Mark tonigh :snidegrin
:snidegrin
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Ideally the vlastuin spot is where you introduce kids into the team
C ellis, lennon, menadue are getting shafted somewhat
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Ideally the vlastuin spot is where you introduce kids into the team
C ellis, lennon, menadue are getting shafted somewhat
Corey Ellis is injured
It is the only reason he isn't in the side now.
He has never been dropped for any other reason than from being injured but don't let that get in the way of whatever your point is supposed to be
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im sure he wont....
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Ideally the vlastuin spot is where you introduce kids into the team
C ellis, lennon, menadue are getting shafted somewhat
Corey Ellis is injured
It is the only reason he isn't in the side now.
He has never been dropped for any other reason than from being injured but don't let that get in the way of whatever your point is supposed to be
No doubt Newman will slide straight back into the twos :snidegrin
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Pardon my french, but this guy is seriously a stuffing boss....i agree he could be our very own Luke Hodge.
:gotigers
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Pardon my french, but this guy is a stuffing general....could be our very own Luke Hodge.
:gotigers
Very hodge like
Field Marshal Erwin Vlastuin
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Pardon my french, but this guy is a stuffing general....could be our very own Luke Hodge.
:gotigers
Very hodge like
Field Marshal Erwin Vlastuin
And just quietly Stalin, it wouldn't take that much for me to turn for him
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Pardon my french, but this guy is a stuffing general....could be our very own Luke Hodge.
:gotigers
Very hodge like
Field Marshal Erwin Vlastuin
And just quietly Stalin, it wouldn't take that much for me to turn for him
:lol
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Flossy made Robbo's 'likes' column today ...
7. Nick Vlastuin.
Every week in victory, the focus has been on the leaders: Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance, Deledio and recently Grigg. Doing his job in the back half has been Vlastuin. Has developed into an attacking defender and has eliminated single-digit disposal numbers from his game. Likes the man-on-man stuff and is now driving through half-back supplying run. Reminds me of young Damien Hardwick minus Hardwick’s dodgy kick.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nat-fyfe-todd-goldstein-and-sam-mitchell-feature-in-the-tackle-likes-and-dislikes-for-round-15/story-e6frfkp9-1227439540928
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Flossy made Robbo's 'likes' column today ...
7. Nick Vlastuin.
Every week in victory, the focus has been on the leaders: Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance, Deledio and recently Grigg. Doing his job in the back half has been Vlastuin. Has developed into an attacking defender and has eliminated single-digit disposal numbers from his game. Likes the man-on-man stuff and is now driving through half-back supplying run. Reminds me of young Damien Hardwick minus Hardwick’s dodgy kick.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nat-fyfe-todd-goldstein-and-sam-mitchell-feature-in-the-tackle-likes-and-dislikes-for-round-15/story-e6frfkp9-1227439540928
:lol :lol
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He's already better than Hardwick ever was....trust Slobbo to compare him to an Essendon player...
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Dermie said on SEN's "crunch time" program said earlier today that Vlaustin will captain Richmond one day. Will be our next captain
Have to say I agree
Natural leader this young man
Pardon my french, but this guy is a stuffing general....could be our very own Luke Hodge.
:gotigers
Very hodge like
Field Marshal Erwin Vlastuin
And just quietly Stalin, it wouldn't take that much for me to turn for him
That cranium and the mandible ...
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Ideally the vlastuin spot is where you introduce kids into the team
C ellis, lennon, menadue are getting shafted somewhat
Corey Ellis - injured
Lennon - unlucky
Meandue - dud
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Wish we had two of him...one down back and one in the guts...Hodge/Voss hybrid.
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Wish we had two of him...one down back and one in the guts...Hodge/Voss hybrid.
(http://www.nrgia.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/300-movie-wallpapers-12.jpg)
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:bow
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Was relatively poor I thought
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yeah, got beaten in some contests early, but lifted as the game went on.
its a good sign when a young player shows that sort of resolve.
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In the first quarter I thought he got absolutely towelled and was thinking here we go, Flossy's turn for a shocker. He kept digging in and got better and I thought that when he got absolutely smashed in that marking contest showed huge courage. That's team lifting stuff.
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Has gone to a new level this year, had a quiet one yesterday but as the game heated up he got better and more sure. Leader
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Has gone to a new level this year, had a quiet one yesterday but as the game heated up he got better and more sure. Leader
Yep
Thought his 1st qtr was poor but in the 2nd half he went up a gear :clapping
Natural leader
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Has gone to a new level this year, had a quiet one yesterday but as the game heated up he got better and more sure. Leader
Thought he was among our best.
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Has gone to a new level this year, had a quiet one yesterday but as the game heated up he got better and more sure. Leader
Thought he was among our best.
Yer so did I.
Competed well on a much bigger and stronger Roughhead a few times.
He is a champ.
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Was relatively poor I thought
:o
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Very tough, fearless and got better as the game went on. Most of our first round picks are now starting to show very good signs and that's a good thing for the longer term.
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Absolutely fearless. One of the few players on our list who I know will never pull out of a contest fearing physical harm.
Inspirational to his teammates who always know the effort he will be giving.
Isn't that the most important quality that defines leadership?
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Was relatively poor I thought
:o
Got better as the game went on as everyone said but he is usually just so rock solid. Reckon he'll have a blinder next week, just seems like the kind of guy that will want to come out and not play like that again :thumbsup
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He is a future gun :bow does everything right every time :clapping
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The Machine.
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He is a future gun :bow does everything right every time :clapping
Love the way he lets himself get turned in a tackle in the direction of where our outlet guy is and always gets those hands free. Takes real composure and confidence in your core strength.
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This guy...
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Was very good against the Suns. His courage is fantastic.
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bloke makes me so wet i slip over
captain-to-be
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Cotch talking about Floss ...
“He’s a really good kick and he’s courageous – that’s unquestionable. He’ll go back with the flight at any stage, and I think that’s what we love about him,” Cotchin told K-Rock.
“He can drop off his opponent, or he can lock down on someone and shut them away.
“He’ll just continue improving.
“Whether or not we see him in the midfield over the years, who would know.
“It’s one of those ones, that you know he has a few more strings to his bow, but we’ll continue with him in that half-back role that we love him playing.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-08-26/young-tiger-star-continues-to-shine
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Should of made Nick captain tonight instead of Maric. Leads by example.
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Yes, goes well.
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3. Vlastuin to the guts
No.9 draft pick Nick Vlastuin has morphed from an underage midfielder into a small defender in his 65 games with Richmond, and critics have questioned the way he has been developed.
On Friday night he was used almost exclusively as a midfielder in a move that earned a tick for three quarters. No stranger to the bustle of the centre square, Vlastuin was a dual All Australian at under-18 level and was drafted partly because of his fearless attack on the ball. He showed those traits from the first bounce and had 14 possessions and five clearances at the last change. He only won two more touches in a disappointing fourth quarter, but it was a game to build on that shows where the Tigers see him long-term.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-06/five-talking-points-richmond-v-hawthorn
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He only "won two more touches" (??) because Half-Step the Master Coach in his finite wisdom moved him down back again...
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Hardwick's a master.
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I've been ok with him playing defence in the past, but he looked real good in the guts last night. Hopefully we make inside mid is his possie going forward.
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I seem to recall Vlastuin saying he spent time with Cotchin and the midfield group training as a midfielder in the pre-season but has hardly played there ever since? Is it because Yarran never got match fit that he could never really leave the backline?
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I seem to recall Vlastuin saying he spent time with Cotchin and the midfield group training as a midfielder in the pre-season but has hardly played there ever since? Is it because Yarran never got match fit that he could never really leave the backline?
No it's because Lade forgot his name and didn't want to offend him so asked his mate Dimma if he could just take him out of the midfield group so as to not hurt his feelings. :rollin
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For a team screaming out for a big bodied mid, we have just the guy but we put him in the back pocket.
Isn't that where you play all your best recruits?
Vlastuin
Lennon
Corey Ellis
They have to learn to play there until all their flair is taken from them .....
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I've been ok with him playing defence in the past, but he looked real good in the guts last night. Hopefully we make inside mid is his possie going forward.
I reckon he has started to struggle in defence but last night he showed he can play well if given the right role
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For a team screaming out for a big bodied mid, we have just the guy but we put him in the back pocket.
Isn't that where you play all your best recruits?
Vlastuin
Lennon
Corey Ellis
They have to learn to play there until all their flair is taken from them .....
Serious.t.
What a flawed professional hardwick is.
Anyone who extends his time is beyond flawed.
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Hardwick has demonstrated he has no idea what he is doing
Anyone remember the last time he outcoached the opposition coach? Out did another team through krafty selections?
Big 4 club and we get this level of guy in FFS.
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We recruit Townsend & Moore because we need strong bodied inside mids. Both are average at best
Why?
Seems we already have one, a first round draft pick no less :banghead
Thought Vlastuin in the middle worked really well
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Could've told you that a year ago.....
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For a team screaming out for a big bodied mid, we have just the guy but we put him in the back pocket.
Isn't that where you play all your best recruits?
Vlastuin
Lennon
Corey Ellis
They have to learn to play there until all their flair is taken from them .....
And miles. Lambert.
Releases Cotchin Edwards and deledio too
All it takes Dimma to give the kids a chance instead of his dud mates
Grigg is an uber list clogger
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Vlastuin can be a genuine goal-kicking midfielder.
Needs to stay there until the end of the year.
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I'll put my hand up I had doubts about him playing in the guts as i was under the impression he played back in his final TAC year. He looked probably the best hes looked for a long time the other night. Hopefully dimmer will give him an extended run - cotch, dusty, miles and Vlastuin with cameos from Edwards and Deledio is a pretty good centre square setup
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From what I have witnessed so far this season - Townsend and Andrew Moore are definitely spuds . Both carrying on the Richmond tradition of list clogging.
Play Vlastuin in the middle PLEASE !!!!
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“We’ve always sort of wanted to give him the opportunity to play (in the midfield). With Trent (Cotchin) being out, and probably our midfield being a little bit light at the moment, it was an opportunity to see how he went,” Hardwick said.
“He was pretty good early, but it’s one of those experiments that’s going to take a little bit of time to see the long-term benefits of it.
“It’s a different kettle of fish playing midfield as compared to down back. But I thought he showed some really good signs.
“He’s incredibly clean, tough. I enjoy what he gave us tonight (Friday night).
“He’ll only get better for the run . . .”
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-09/midfield-move-makes-nick-click
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:facepalm
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:pullhair :pullhair :pullhair
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An "experiment" to play him where he was born to play and what he was drafted for....
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An "experiment" to play him where he was born to play and what he was drafted for....
Internally this was always the plan, its just media spin for the less acquainted fan. Twas no experiment.
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Oh do tell Dougeythemoreacquaintedrichmondfan.....
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:facepalm & :facepalm
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To me Vlas looks like he would be an exceptional player at Hawthorn or Geelong.
Probably where he will end up if Hardwick keeps on tooling him around.
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To me Vlas looks like he would be an exceptional player at Hawthorn or Geelong.
Probably where he will end up if Hardwick keeps on tooling him around.
Or Sydney
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“We’ve always sort of wanted to give him the opportunity to play (in the midfield). With Trent (Cotchin) being out, and probably our midfield being a little bit light at the moment, it was an opportunity to see how he went,” Hardwick said.
“He was pretty good early, but it’s one of those experiments that’s going to take a little bit of time to see the long-term benefits of it.
“It’s a different kettle of fish playing midfield as compared to down back. But I thought he showed some really good signs.
“He’s incredibly clean, tough. I enjoy what he gave us tonight (Friday night).
“He’ll only get better for the run . . .”
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-09/midfield-move-makes-nick-click
I haven't watched the game back yet but did he play onball in the second half? I remember thinking he didn't but may be wrong. First round draft choices are for midfielder or KPP. Not back pockets.
Blind Freddie can see he is stale in the backline.
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Dimmas dissection - will go in the guts again at stages. To be quite honest there was no need for thomas, moore, townsend when you had vlas at hb. Give him time in the middle from when he was drafted and he would have been taking the comp on by now.
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“We’ve always sort of wanted to give him the opportunity to play (in the midfield). With Trent (Cotchin) being out, and probably our midfield being a little bit light at the moment, it was an opportunity to see how he went,” Hardwick said.
“He was pretty good early, but it’s one of those experiments that’s going to take a little bit of time to see the long-term benefits of it.
“It’s a different kettle of fish playing midfield as compared to down back. But I thought he showed some really good signs.
“He’s incredibly clean, tough. I enjoy what he gave us tonight (Friday night).
“He’ll only get better for the run . . .”
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-09/midfield-move-makes-nick-click
I haven't watched the game back yet but did he play onball in the second half? I remember thinking he didn't but may be wrong. First round draft choices are for midfielder or KPP. Not back pockets.
Blind Freddie can see he is stale in the backline.
I actually can't remember seeing him in the third quarter so he could have gone missing or gone back.
The main issue is, I think Vlas plays a valuable role in the back line. It'd be great if we had a limited player who could play that role perfectly so we don't waste the talent Vlas has but I can't think of anyone else who can do it?
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It's robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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ideally: Deledio, Cotchin, Edwards, Rioli - forward line
middle: Vlastuin, Martin, CEllis, Miles
someone needs to play as a defender
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The best way to ease the pressure on our defenders is having a midfield that wins more ball.
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I'm fully behind the Vlas in the guts movement now. Our midfield is our biggest weakness IMO and it's where his ferocity and clean ball use will be best utilized.
He wasn't playing well in defence this year anyway.
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BeaUtiful work , love him being more middle, ball use VG
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Who could have ever guessed he'd go well in the middle?
:snidegrin
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I'm hopeful he can be a permanent mid but i don't think he's fit enough for a permanent midfield position at this stage. Maybe with another big preseason we can see him more in the middle. At the moment we will have to be content with just limited time in there.
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I'm hopeful he can be a permanent mid but i don't think he's fit enough for a permanent midfield position at this stage. Maybe with another big preseason we can see him more in the middle. At the moment we will have to be content with just limited time in there.
Yep. Looks good in congestion when he's got energy, but his lateral movement, particularly defensively, is pretty ordinary when he's gassed.
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Needs to go back to the back pocket to learn defence... :whistle
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We look so much better when he is on ball. He just adds class and a strong body around the ball. Love it!
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We look so much better when he is on ball. He just adds class and a strong body around the ball. Love it!
energy power aggression forward movement
:clapping
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We look so much better when he is on ball. He just adds class and a strong body around the ball. Love it!
energy power aggression forward movement
:clapping
:clapping :clapping
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Oh look, in a funny sort of way, I think we're seeing his development in the back pocket come to fruition in the midfield...
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:lol
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Oh look, in a funny sort of way, I think we're seeing his development in the back pocket come to fruition in the midfield...
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Has won my love back.
Looks interested again which is nice to see.
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same Andy, has looked really promising in the guts the past 2 weeks
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bumping this because he was good in the middle vs Syd. Hoping if Cotchin comes back Vlas stays in the middle. This guy could be the hard inside mid battering ram to follow in the mold of Tuck
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Vlastuin is a ripper, has it all :clapping
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Love this guy.
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The best way to ease the pressure on our defenders is having a midfield that wins more ball.
Yeah but someone still has to play defender
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The best way to ease the pressure on our defenders is having a midfield that wins more ball.
Yeah but someone still has to play defender
When your side doesn't have the ball every one should be defending !
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The best way to ease the pressure on our defenders is having a midfield that wins more ball.
Yeah but someone still has to play defender
Our recruiters have this under control?? :lol ...not
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Showed again why he needs to be used more in the midfield and F50.
Fondly remember some great running goals in his first year, and it looks like he can find the sticks still/hasn't had this coached out of him (?yet).
Given he's such a good overheard mark would it be worth playing him as a forward for an experiment given the season is essentially shot?
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Showed again why he needs to be used more in the midfield and F50.
Fondly remember some great running goals in his first year, and it looks like he can find the sticks still/hasn't had this coached out of him (?yet).
Given he's such a good overheard mark would it be worth playing him as a forward for an experiment given the season is essentially shot?
Ummmmm no that is a bad idea according to the forum experts no player is allowed to be played out of position or anything new tried
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Leave them all in the backline where the experts love them. It's the only way they will learn apparently, must get the drive out of the backline to no one down field as they are all back. Ah, story of the experts.
Vlastuin should have been moved into the centre last year. Hardwick will do the same with C Ellis.
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Leave them all in the backline where the experts love them. It's the only way they will learn apparently, must get the drive out of the backline to no one down field as they are all back. Ah, story of the experts.
Vlastuin should have been moved into the centre last year. Hardwick will do the same with C Ellis.
Why are you so keen to let everyone know how incapable you are of grasping simple concepts
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Leave them all in the backline where the experts love them. It's the only way they will learn apparently, must get the drive out of the backline to no one down field as they are all back. Ah, story of the experts.
Vlastuin should have been moved into the centre last year. Hardwick will do the same with C Ellis.
I think Corey Ellis looks to be a great playmaking option to help set us up from D50. Actually would say this is a weakness in our side when compared to others.
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+1
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Leave them all in the backline where the experts love them. It's the only way they will learn apparently, must get the drive out of the backline to no one down field as they are all back. Ah, story of the experts.
Vlastuin should have been moved into the centre last year. Hardwick will do the same with C Ellis.
I think Corey Ellis looks to be a great playmaking option to help set us up from D50. Actually would say this is a weakness in our side when compared to others.
Oh no... :help
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What would be your ideal back six wat
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Of the current options; no batman
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No injuries;
Astbury, Rance, Houli
McIntosh, Grimes, Broad
At the moment;
Astbury, Rance, Grimes
Broad, B Ellis, Conca/C Ellis/Menadue/
But I would rather see C Ellis feeding the ball inside 50 and kicking goals, not repelling attacks by the opposition. Give Broad more of a go. We need one more backman.
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B.Ellis in the backline :lol
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Doing alright then aren't I if the self proclaimed expert can only criticise one player I have selected.. :snidegrin
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Many people have called me an expert and I'm not one of them, but I must continue to share my wealth of knowledge with simpletons like you
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No injuries;
Astbury, Rance, Houli
McIntosh, Grimes, Broad
At the moment;
Astbury, Rance, Grimes
Broad, B Ellis, Conca/C Ellis/Menadue/
But I would rather see C Ellis feeding the ball inside 50 and kicking goals, not repelling attacks by the opposition.
Can't he do this from the back flank in the modern game?
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No injuries;
Astbury, Rance, Houli
McIntosh, Grimes, Broad
At the moment;
Astbury, Rance, Grimes
Broad, B Ellis, Conca/C Ellis/Menadue/
But I would rather see C Ellis feeding the ball inside 50 and kicking goals, not repelling attacks by the opposition.
Can't he do this from the back flank in the modern game?
I think because he played mid in juniors he can't play in the back line now
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No injuries;
Astbury, Rance, Houli
McIntosh, Grimes, Broad
At the moment;
Astbury, Rance, Grimes
Broad, B Ellis, Conca/C Ellis/Menadue/
But I would rather see C Ellis feeding the ball inside 50 and kicking goals, not repelling attacks by the opposition.
Can't he do this from the back flank in the modern game?
That's what been happening for the last 15 years .....
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:lol
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You simpletons.
Backmen repel attacks, they dont initiate them, let alone kick goals
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Everyone calling everyone simpletons, yet all engaged in the same level of conversation.
Oh, wait...........
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You simpletons.
Backmen repel attacks, they dont initiate them, let alone kick goals
Semantics Al, you must be an engineer
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just because i was being facetious, no need with the insults
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You're actually more like faeces... :snidegrin
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You simpletons.
Backmen repel attacks, they dont initiate them, let alone kick goals
Yep, Vlas spent a total of 1 minute 14 seconds on ball and in those moments he kicked goals. Only during the rest of the time was he in the back line ;)
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You're actually more like feces... :snidegrin
what is feces?
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Never sweet smelling.
:lol
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american poo?
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american poo?
As in Don McLean's "Boo, Boo Mis American Poo"?
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
Nathan Drummond
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
Yes. So obvious in the last quarter against the dogs that our mids were just about shot. Dusty looked knackered but just kept pushing.
They threw Jack into the middle. Why the hell they didn't use Vlastuin in the last is another sign of their stupidity.
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
the coach is too conservative and stupid
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
Yes. So obvious in the last quarter against the dogs that our mids were just about shot. Dusty looked knackered but just kept pushing.
They threw Jack into the middle. Why the hell they didn't use Vlastuin in the last is another sign of their stupidity.
So whack Dusty down back for 10 mins and rotate Vlas in, Dusty is probably one our best kicks as well so would work in nicely, then rotate maybe Cotch down back with Dusty leaving Vlas in, could Miles get a rest up forward?
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For me I would like to see Nick given a decent go in the mid field, just unsure who would take that linking back man spot. Any ideas?
Yes. So obvious in the last quarter against the dogs that our mids were just about shot. Dusty looked knackered but just kept pushing.
They threw Jack into the middle. Why the hell they didn't use Vlastuin in the last is another sign of their stupidity.
So whack Dusty down back for 10 mins and rotate Vlas in, Dusty is probably one our best kicks as well so would work in nicely, then rotate maybe Cotch down back with Dusty leaving Vlas in, could Miles get a rest up forward?
Wtf Dusty down back
Wait to the football experts on here get hold of that one, apparently you can't play a midfielder in the back line
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Would rather see Dusty go forward for 10 minutes than back, would be far more damaging.
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Would rather see Dusty go forward for 10 minutes than back, would be far more damaging.
Dusty clones would be good
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Would rather see Dusty go forward for 10 minutes than back, would be far more damaging.
Dusty clones would be good
Would have been good for the nuffers who wanted to get rid of him, we could have done that and still had a Dusty when they were proven horribly wrong
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Would rather see Dusty go forward for 10 minutes than back, would be far more damaging.
Dusty clones would be good
Would have been good for the nuffers who wanted to get rid of him, we could have done that and still had a Dusty when they were proven horribly wrong
:lol
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Another talented kid being sacrificed by Halfstep the career killer.
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Should have been in middle two years ago
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Nick Vlastuin has been selected in a star-studded side of recent AFL draftees.
The AFL Academy’s ’20 in 2020’ team, which commemorates the 20th intake of the AFL’s national Academy, is made up of young league players who have been drafted over the past four years.
The AFL Academy ‘20 in 2020’ team is . . .
Defenders: Nick Vlastuin (Rich), Jake Lever (Adel), Nathan Wilson (GWS), Callum Mills (Syd), Jacob Weitering (Carl), Jack Martin (GC)
Midfielders: Marcus Bontempelli (WB), Lachie Whitfield (GWS), Jaeger O'Meara (GC), Ollie Wines (PA), Jack Viney (Melb), Brodie Grundy (Coll)
Forwards: Jake Stringer (WB), Jeremy Cameron (GWS), Isaac Heeney (Syd), Josh Kelly (GWS), Jesse Hogan (Melb), Joe Daniher (Ess)
Interchange: Darcy Parish (Ess), Stephen Coniglio (GWS)
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-17/vlastuin-in-young-allstar-side
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Who needs the next Michael Voss when we can turn him into the next Chris Newman instead? :gotigers
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"Tigger" has gone backwards
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"Tigger" has gone backwards
Tigger needs to play in the guts. That is his position. And don't give me the story that he hasn't got the tank. He is an inside mid. He's got enough tank to play there.
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"Tigger" has gone backwards
Tigger needs to play in the guts. That is his position. And don't give me the story that he hasn't got the tank. He is an inside mid. He's got enough tank to play there.
Totally disagree
Clearly not quick enough
And that's why he is playing down back
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He's been HARDWICKED.
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"Tigger" has gone backwards
Tigger needs to play in the guts. That is his position. And don't give me the story that he hasn't got the tank. He is an inside mid. He's got enough tank to play there.
Totally disagree
Clearly not quick enough
And that's why he is playing down back
That's ridiculous. What about Sam Mitchell? I'll throw in Diesel Williams too. As an inside mid you don't need pace. You just need awareness, strength and speed of mind.
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"Tigger" has gone backwards
Yes i agree he has gone backwards. Noticed a decline last year. I my eye the best games he has played recently are the 2 he played as a mid..... This is his spot IMO.
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Going backwards yet still way less Shyte than half the guys wearing the same jumper
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think you will find they were chimpanzees, not baboons in A Space Odyssey
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Former defender Nick Vlastuin is adjusting to a new role in the midfield and he hasn't had great results offensively in the opening four rounds, averaging 11 disposals. The plan was for Vlastuin to rotate forward with the team's other inside midfielders, but he has won 55 per cent of his possessions in the back half. The hard-nosed Tiger's defensive side certainly hasn't disappeared, laying 22 tackles in four games, and he is using the ball at 96 per cent efficiency.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-19/slow-starter-whos-costing-your-club-right-now
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Interesting times - i think its harsh to mark our players on total disposals this season compared to last season as we are clearly as much lower possession side this year vs the past.
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"heard on 7 game day it looks like a classic AC joint and hopefully just a couple of weeks, but don't think that's definite."
https://twitter.com/KateVictoria93/status/861204677022461952
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Replaceable talent.
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Question: Why can't you be a mid that also plays back? Everyone talks about mids that go forward to "rest". Floss can't play forward. He looks lost. Why can't we "rest" him back?
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Replaceable talent.
I was all for trying him as a mid/fwd but he just looks lost and I don't know whether it's worth preserving with. However, I like him down back so I think a decision has to be made whether he finds his feet in the VFL as a mid/fwd or he goes back.
Fair question YBB, I think the idea is that as a FWD you can somewhat dictate how much effort and running you have to do i.e. play deep foward and lead out from the square or you can play as a higher forward and work up and down the field depending how much energy you have and it's the opposition who decides who to play on you. In the backline you have to find a match up that works and they can try and exploit your midfield minutes. Using Adelaide as an example, you can't just plunk Vloss on Walker because he's the deepest forward as Walker would likely out body him and you can't play him on a player like Lynch or Cameron/Betts because they could just work you up and down the field when you're supposed to be having a "rest".
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Can he be our hodge ? Mid and back, primarily back. He sorta played like hodge in that 1st quarter
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He looked good enough when he went forward in his first year and has played well in the guts as recently as last year, I'm still confident he can be a genuine, solid three line player....
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Question: Why can't you be a mid that also plays back? Everyone talks about mids that go forward to "rest". Floss can't play forward. He looks lost. Why can't we "rest" him back?
When you say "can't play forward" are you judging that off the first 7 games?
He has played back basically since he was drafted, its going to take some time for him to adjust. More than 7 games anyway.
He is a good mark on the lead and strong enough to compete one on one. I think he is worth more time in the midfield then going forward.
Although with him in the backline you know what you'll get and it's better than most on here give him credit for imo.
Pretty important player to our side.
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When he went down, so did we.
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Best 30 minutes of footy this year...is a HBF all day long for mine and we missed him last week.
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Peter Burge says Floss has a fracture of his right scapula. Out for 3-4 weeks.
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Peter Burge says Floss has a fracture of his right scapula. Out for 3-4 weeks.
Any chance one of the medical experts on here could expand on
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Peter Burge says Floss has a fracture of his right scapula. Out for 3-4 weeks.
Any chance one of the medical experts on here could expand on
Would appear that he's had a fracture somewhere in the scapula region. Injury can be 3 -30 weeks depending on severity of it. Would recommend aspro and a lie down on the non scapula side
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Shoulder injury history?
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Peter Burge says Floss has a fracture of his right scapula. Out for 3-4 weeks.
Any chance one of the medical experts on here could expand on
Would appear that he's had a fracture somewhere in the scapula region. Injury can be 3 -30 weeks depending on severity of it. Would recommend aspro and a lie down on the non scapula side
cheers
:lol
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At least they didn't send him back out like they did with Shane Tuck.
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Peter Burge says Floss has a fracture of his right scapula. Out for 3-4 weeks.
Any chance one of the medical experts on here could expand on
Would appear that he's had a fracture somewhere in the scapula region. Injury can be 3 -30 weeks depending on severity of it. Would recommend aspro and a lie down on the non scapula side
Thank You
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No point me replying. Dr HRT has spoken! :lol :lol :lol
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Oh wow didn't realise there was this many doctors on this forum
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Plenty of Doctors in Philosophy
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21 disposals @ 90% eff., 11 marks, 8 rebounds, 2 In50s and 7 1%ers. One of Floss' best games today. He really stood up across HB, and especially in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs, he helped block any rebound transition by the Giants which dried up their scoring.
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He was a ginger bearded legend today
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I actually think it was his best game
Certainly best all round game.
Was simply brilliant today
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Excellent game. :thumbsup
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I actually think it was his best game
Certainly best all round game.
Was simply brilliant today
Certainly was :clapping
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I actually think it was his best game
Certainly best all round game.
Was simply brilliant today
Certainly was :clapping
Yeah :cheers
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Just so cool in the crisis. Brilliant :clapping
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Often plays well does this lad. A rock. :bow
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Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
Does he look a lot slimmer to you lot or is it just me?
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It's the beard....makes his Easter Island head look smaller....
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Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
Does he look a lot slimmer to you lot or is it just me?
11 marks not enough?
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Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
Does he look a lot slimmer to you lot or is it just me?
11 marks not enough?
x2 especially in the wet
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Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
Does he look a lot slimmer to you lot or is it just me?
11 marks not enough?
x2 especially in the wet
x3 for 2nd game post injury
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“He’s such an important player for us. He’s very cool under pressure . . . really calm when he’s over the ball,” Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said in his post-match press conference.
“His first week back, last week, he was a little bit rusty. But today, I think, he’ll take enormous confidence out of, and so will we.
“I just love the way he goes about it, as do his teammates. I know our backs were happy to have him back.”
“We did try him in the midfield, and we loved some things he did in there, but he looks naturally at home down back I think, at the moment,” Hardwick said.
“But I’m certain he’ll be knocking down my door at some stage to get another go in there . . .”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-24/nick-solid-as-a-brick
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Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
Does he look a lot slimmer to you lot or is it just me?
11 marks not enough?
It's not the ones you take, it's the easy ones you drop. Saw it in the VFL before he came back, last week and earlier on in the game this week. Hell, even a commentator pointed it out. I'm talking uncontested chest marks not big contested pack marks.
Saying all that, second game back in from a long lay off (his first long lay off in AFL) and he is progressing just fine. Huge Vlaus fan and thought he had a great game. Just needs to hold those marks that I'm sure he will when he gets back into it, he even looked more composed as the game wore on.
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Back to the future for reliable Tiger defender
afl.com.au
25 July 2017
RICHMOND defender Nick Vlastuin is happy to return to the backline role he had made his own in recent seasons after a shoulder injury earlier this year cut his midfield move short.
Vlastuin was among the Tigers' best players against Greater Western Sydney in his second game back from a 10-week lay-off, controlling the backline with 21 possessions, 11 marks and 13 intercepts.
The 23-year-old was earmarked for a role rotating between the midfield and half-forward pre-season, but he looks set to remain in defence as the top-four Tigers charge towards the finals.
"With Reece Conca going out, he was in awesome form, so we just needed another back there," Vlastuin told AFL.com.au.
"Then Dusty (Martin) and (Trent) Cotchin were going really well in the midfield and (Kane) Lambert has really stepped up there too.
"I probably wouldn't get a game if I wanted to get back in there, so I might just stay at half-back I think.
"With (Alex) Rance, (Dylan) Grimes and (David) Astbury all in career-best form it makes the job pretty easy, and I've obviously played the last couple of years back there."
Vlastuin has finished top 10 in the Tigers' past two Jack Dyer Medal counts (ninth in 2016 and equal sixth in 2015), establishing himself as a reliable small defender with leadership qualities.
He showcased his versatility by playing on both Toby Greene (182cm) and Rory Lobb (207cm) against the Giants, dropping off his man when needed to provide support.
After missing six weeks with his shoulder injury, Vlastuin returned through the VFL in round 14 but pulled up sore and was back on the sidelines for another match.
He made his AFL return against the Brisbane Lions in round 17 and has slotted into the back six seamlessly.
"I'm actually more nervous in the stands watching than I am playing, so it's good to be back out there," Vlastuin said.
"After the games I would always get a bit jealous of the boys when they won and sang the song, so it's good to be back in the circle."
Coach Damien Hardwick said Vlastuin should take enormous confidence from his performance against the Giants, which underlined his importance to the team.
"I know our backs were happy to have him back," the coach said.
"We did try him in the midfield and we love some things he did in there, but he looks naturally at home down back at the moment.
"Certainly he'll be knocking on my door at some stage to get another go in there."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-25/back-to-the-future-for-reliable-tiger-defender
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Since returning to the Tigers’ senior line-up in Round 17 against Brisbane at the MCG, however, Valstuin’s averaged 19.2 disposals, 5.9 contested possessions, 5.1 rebound-50s and 8.1 marks.
And Vlastuin is currently ranked 11th in the competition for effective disposals per game.
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-14/vlastuin-in-good-nick
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Since coming back into the side earlier this season is in career best form. Has become a very important cog in our side.
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Since coming back into the side earlier this season is in career best form. Has become a very important cog in our side.
:clapping
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His poise is incredible. :bow
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BHP Vlastuin - the quiet achiever.... :shh
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Candidate for our 5th best player .
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Looking more and more like Tormund Giantsbane every week.
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Since coming back into the side earlier this season is in career best form. Has become a very important cog in our side.
Coincides with him going to the backline again :shh
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Since coming back into the side earlier this season is in career best form. Has become a very important cog in our side.
Coincides with him going to the backline again :shh
Nah, he was a backman before his mini stint in the guts and was pretty average, maybe the stint in the guts helped him see the game in a different light? who knows
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Vlastuin is averaging a highly-impressive 19.6 disposals, 8.5 marks and 5.5 rebounds in his past six games and he has further strengthened an already quality Richmond defensive unit.
“He’s in career-best form,” Richardson said on this week’s episode of Richmond’s official podcast ‘Talking Tigers’.
“I really liked Nick when he first came on to the scene and thought he was a bona fide AFL player right from day one . . .
“He’s really come on in leaps and bounds, particularly in the last five or six weeks.
“His form is outstanding at half-back . . .
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/richos-high-vlastuin-rating
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Definitely career best form.
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How good is this guy :clapping
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Been pivotal :cheers
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Next captain.....hashtag that........
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This is the captain of Vic Metro we have all been waiting for. Well done to Flossy for the impact he has had since returning to the team
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Has been huge at the back end of the season
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Tormund is gut
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Giantsbane
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Look out Brienne, he's barred up and roaring to go.
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This is the captain of Vic Metro we have all been waiting for. Well done to Flossy for the impact he has had since returning to the team
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Floss is in fantastic form. Just a rock across HB.
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Reckon he could win the norm smith medal
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I thought he was our best tonight.
Really proud of how he has come on.
Not flashy but just so reliable.
Someone got that one right.
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Was solid as a rock. This bloke never shirks an issue. A great finals performance from a true finals performer.
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Has gone to beast mode
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:bow
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:cheers
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He was amazing and is so important to our backline!
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He is a brave mofo, puts his bonce on the line a lot and has become really effective, love his big kicks.
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I thought he was our best tonight.
Really proud of how he has come on.
Not flashy but just so reliable.
Someone got that one right.
x 2
Though Dusty would get the votes as he just stands out more.
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The Ginger Hodge
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'It bloody gave me goosebumps': Nick Vlastuin on the Richmond roar and the signs of a changed club
September 9, 2017
Riley Beveridge
FOX SPORTS
RICHMOND had been here before.
A handy lead, a promising performance and the prospect of a finals victory on the cards.
But unlike previous years, this time things were different.
On Friday night, the Tigers held their nerve, even when challenged by a talented Cats outfit.
They ended 16 years of September heartache to stroll into a preliminary final, dismantling Geelong and laying down a marker for their future ambitions with a 51-point win.
It was the sign of a changed club.
From being on the verge of capitulation 12 months ago, with off-field problems almost masking a season of disappointment on it, to being on the cusp of a Grand Final.
And with the Tiger Army behind them, it’s easy to buy into the belief that anything is possible.
“We’d been hearing all week that we hadn’t beaten Geelong in 18 goes or something,” Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin told foxfooty.com.au after the match.
“The last time we played them in a final, they smashed us by about 100 points. All of that.
“Then the Tiger roar when we were running out, it bloody gave me goosebumps.”
That roar was deafening.
Damien Hardwick suggested after the game that around 60,000 of the 95,028 inside the ground were Tiger fans. He might have been too conservative.
And now, Richmond won’t have to leave. Victory ensured that every match they play for the remainder of the season will be at the ‘G — something that proved motivation before the game.
“We always know the Tiger faithful is going to show up,” Vlastuin said.
“We know now that we’re not leaving Melbourne, so that’s going to be pretty exciting.
“Even when Geelong ran out, the boos were louder than the cheers. They showed up tonight.
“We love playing at the ‘G and we play pretty well here. There’s a lot of space for our quick young boys, so it’s a huge result to be staying here.”
Vlastuin, in his own right, played a pivotal role in the victory.
He finished with 19 disposals from 10 marks on Friday night, marshalling the defence and taking a couple of courageous grabs going back with the flight.
His calming goal midway through the third term also steadied the ship when things were getting nervous. From there, it seemed there would only ever be one winner.
“I wasn’t sure when we could start enjoying it,” Vlastuin laughed.
“We saw the security guards come out and we kicked a couple of goals. I was looking around at the boys, but we weren’t sure.
“It’s just such an awesome feeling.”
Vlastuin represents a composed figure in a suddenly very mature Richmond defensive unit.
The 23-year-old, much like David Astbury and Dylan Grimes, is enjoying a career-best year.
Together, the back line helped steady the ship when it mattered most on Friday night, halting a Cats outfit that drew level early in the third term and looked like running over the Tigers.
“They got two late ones (just before half time) and that made the game a bit more nervous,” Vlastuin said.
“They can get a couple of quick ones and all of a sudden they have some momentum back.
“We felt them coming. They just started to win it around the ball, with Patrick Dangerfield, Joel Selwood and Mitch Duncan running the show.
“But it was just awesome for our team to not give up a couple more quick goals and give them any momentum again.
“When the momentum switched back our way, we capitalised and that was great.”
But Vlastuin won’t dare to dream. Not yet, anyway.
“We’re just going to enjoy tonight,” he said.
“I haven’t even thought about the next game. It’s just great for the Tiger faithful and great for the boys, after a really tough year last year.
“Who would have thought?”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/it-bloody-gave-me-goosebumps-nick-vlastuin-on-the-richmond-roar-and-the-signs-of-a-changed-club/news-story/a43a6d63729f6e3e2d55ad3dfcddfb20
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Some said he was overrated....a plodder even.... :shh
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Some said he was overrated....a plodder even.... :shh
Im one who said he was overrated (from memory). I had big concerns about his lack of impact in games last year and also pretty sure i smashed him when the midfield experiment failed earlier this year. But hes had a ripping month and an awesome Final. If he maintains that level of form he'll retire a true tiger legend. :gotigers
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Actually I was thinking more of others...actually don't remember you saying it....
BTW..I still think he can play all three lines eventually.... :shh
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Actually I was thinking more of others...actually don't remember you saying it....
BTW..I still think he can play all three lines eventually.... :shh
Its ok im happy to put the hand up. Maybe his dominance down back is what he needs to confidently start running through the mid rotations.
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Some said he was overrated....a plodder even.... :shh
Yep I said he was overrated. Since he came back into the side has gone to another level, is playing some elite footy. and FWIW I still also believe he has something to offer in midfield down the track
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I feel his long range goal in the 3rd was what broke Geelong and allowed us to get ascendancy
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Floss the Boss. :clapping :bow :clapping
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Dutch Tank 8)
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Some said he was overrated....a plodder even.... :shh
Yep I said he was overrated. Since he came back into the side has gone to another level, is playing some elite footy. and FWIW I still also believe he has something to offer in midfield down the track
Me too, just hadn't seen huge improvement but he went to an elite level on Friday night. The goal he kicked in the 3rd q was huge and his marking was superb
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Dutch Tank 8)
Is that like a Dutch oven?
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From Robbo's WHAT I LIKE column
1. NICK VLASTUIN
Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance and Dion Prestia were the high-profile performers, but Vlastuin’s efforts at the back typify what Richmond is all about. He had 19 disposals, kicked a huge goal and took a game-high 10 marks. What the numbers don’t describe is Vlastuin’s bravery and willingness to compete. He’s the kind of player who inspires teammates with his blue-collar work ethic, rather than out-and-out individual brilliance. Can’t think of a defender who runs back with the flight as much as Vlastuin does.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/the-tackle-mark-robinson-reveals-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-week-1-of-the-2017-afl-finals/news-story/0ca4eba66a63b0787f43f2066cee8ad9
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Absolute general
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His goal in the third quarter was absolutely critical and stemmed the flow in favour of the cats.
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might not the kudos, apart from jabba, but gee how good has he been?
a joy to watch how controlled he is in the back half. Makes houli actually stand taller too, but not by much.
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Whatever his contract is needs another 4-5 years 8)
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Is this unheralded defender Richmond's 'Glenn Archer'?
By SEN
11 September 2017
Herald Sun Chief Football Writer Mark Robinson has nominated an unheralded Tiger as having the same influence on his club as Glenn Archer.
The North Melbourne champion was celebrated for his courageous, relentless style of play, representing somewhat of a spiritual leader for the Roos. After Richmond secured their first finals victory since 2001, Robinson believes Nick Vlastuin embodies the mentality that Archer brought to the field.
“He [Vlastuin] is quickly becoming the Glenn Archer of Richmond,” he told SEN Afternoons.
“People will sit there and say, what a stupid thing to say. Archer was this, this and this, but what Nick Vlastuin does, his bravery is a stand out.”
Vlastuin amassed 19 disposals at 79 percent efficiency, 457 metres gained and 10 marks playing off the half back line in the 51-point win over Geelong in Friday night’s Qualifying Final.
“What the numbers don’t describe is Vlastuin’s bravery and willingness to compete,” Robinson wrote in Monday’s Herald Sun.
“He’s the kind of player who inspires teammates with his blue-collar work ethic, rather than out-and-out individual brilliance. Can’t think of a defender who runs back with the flight as much as Vlastuin does.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/11/is-this-unheralded-defender-richmonds-glenn-archer/
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Better skilled than that plodder 8)
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Is Vlastuin our 5th best player ??
Reckon he could be .
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Is Vlastuin our 5th best player ??
Reckon he could be .
If not he would be close.
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Better skilled than that plodder 8)
Doesnt assault people at kids games too
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Thats the beauty of our side now, he is one of probably 4 that could be classified as our 5th best and thats only going to increase as the likes of nankervis and a few of the kids gain experience
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Thats the beauty of our side now, he is one of probably 4 that could be classified as our 5th best and thats only going to increase as the likes of nankervis and a few of the kids gain experience
Astbury, Grimes, Prestia, Nanna & Vlastuin ... :cheers
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Thats the beauty of our side now, he is one of probably 4 that could be classified as our 5th best and thats only going to increase as the likes of nankervis and a few of the kids gain experience
Astbury, Grimes, Prestia, Nanna & Vlastuin ... :cheers
Graham :rollin
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and his marking was superb
I knew he could do it but got lambasted for asking for it :shh
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and his marking was superb
I knew he could do it but got lambasted for asking for it :shh
You got lambasted for questioning his marking in a game in the wet where he took about a dozen marks and maybe dropped 1 and yet you chose to say
Just hold some of those grabs lad and you would have killed it :bow :bow
:shh
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Don't think that's an unfair summation and I stand by it. I by no means said he was poor just stated he should have held some of his marks that he dropped which was more than one. I didn't even say I expected him to complete ALL his dropped marks, only SOME because I am quite aware of the difficulties of taking an intercept mark above your head with oncoming opposition in the wet. It was the two chest marks he dropped that I thought he would have completed and was sure he would in the future as it was his first (or close to) game back from a long lay off...
But stuff it, I guess he's beyond criticism
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Came back and was rock solid after the early mistakes, true character.... :clapping
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Came back and was rock solid after the early mistakes, true character.... :clapping
Totally agree. Showed enormous character to come back and have the impact he did.
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Came back and was rock solid after the early mistakes, true character.... :clapping
That ripper mark in front of Tex(?) by out-bodying Betts in the middle of the ground is the sort of stuff I was saying the bloke could do :clapping :clapping
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Nick Vlastuin has 20 disposals at 90 per cent efficiency in today's match, as well as 424 metres gained and 15 uncontested possessions as well as launching that last goal after stopping a Devon Smith shot at goal on his defensive goal-line.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/jlt-community-series/2018/1/ess-v-rich
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AA
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AA
Big chance if he brings his form from the 2017 finals to this season.
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The Anzac Eve game will be Vlastuin's 100th. Congrats Floss :clapping
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/N/Nick_Vlastuin.html
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Is a very very important player in the backline for us. Almost as important as Rance.... :shh
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Flossy!!!! Well done to the fine gentleman. Definitely does the Tigers jumper proud
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Is a very very important player in the backline for us. Almost as important as Rance.... :shh
He has indeed. This time last year he looked stuck as a footballer but has grown exponentially since coming back from injury
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Well done Vlasty :clapping
100 wooohooo
Stick around for the next 100 too :thumbsup
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Vlastuin "honoured" to play on Anzac Day Eve
By SEN
19 April 2018
Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin said he’s honoured to be a part of the Anzac Day Eve game this year after watching from the stands in 2017.
The 23-year-old will play his 100th game on Tuesday night and can’t wait to be out there.
“Last year I actually missed this game so I was sitting in the crowd with a couple of mates and before the game when they get all the lights and that you get goosebumps and just want to be out there,” Vlastuin told SEN Breakfast.
“It’s an honour to be playing Anzac Eve.”
Vlastuin said the group of defenders at Richmond like to go away in the pre-season to work on their team bonding.
“We go on a backs camp, just a night in pre-season every year, try and build that bond because it is a team within a team and now we’ve been playing pretty solid footy together for probably three or four years now with the same sort of back six," Vlastuin said.
“We all know each other’s games and then we can build off that I suppose so it does make a huge difference."
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/04/18/vlastuin-honoured-to-play-on-anzac-day-eve/
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Great game today from Floss. Took a stack of intercept marks.
26 disposals at 77%.
12 marks
8 tackles
5 1%ers.
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Was second BOG in my opinion
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Correctomundo (https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/925640149.gif)
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Getting back to his finals form of last year.
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Magnificent :cheers
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Almost as important as Rance. :shh
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Easily the best back 6 in the comp. he's fast becoming the general back there
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Defence, and beard, is growing on Tiger
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 20, 2018 11:00AM
A WILLINGNESS to throw himself into the line of fire and become one of Richmond's most critical defenders stems back to Nick Vlastuin's early childhood.
Growing up in the Melbourne suburb of Eltham North, Vlastuin was the youngest of three and full of boundless energy.
Nicknamed 'Tigger' after the bouncy tiger from Winnie the Pooh, Vlastuin learned to transfer his restlessness to the football field at an early age.
With that came natural resilience and bravery honed in backyard scraps with brother Tim and dad Chris.
"Probably the older brother and the old man roughed me up a bit," Vlastuin said this week.
"I'm just used to playing footy and getting roughed up against bigger bodies, I suppose."
Vlastuin trained with the midfielders ahead of the 2017 season and played the first seven games there before fracturing his right scapula against the Western Bulldogs.
He was initially meant to miss about a month, but it blew out to nine weeks. By the time he was ready for a call up, Jack Graham had made himself at home in the midfield.
Vlastuin had also lost some of the fitness he'd built in the pre-season, and with Reece Conca out with a foot injury, he was moved to half-back, a role he'd played on and off before.
But this time, his impact was different.
Instantly his numbers started to improve. He went from 20th at the club in metres gained to third, and rocketed to second at Punt Road and ninth in the competition for intercept possessions, from an average of 1.8 per game to 8.3.
This year, he's held the line when it comes to chopping off the opposition's forward forays and remains second at Richmond for intercepts with an average of 7.5.
"It's always a key indicator for backs, I suppose," he said.
"Half the time, it's the forwards putting on pressure up the ground and it just falls into your lap.
"It's probably the easiest backline to play in, really. You've got [Alex] Rance and Dave [Astbury] behind you, 'Grimesy' [Dylan Grimes] takes the most dangerous small forward, and then the midfield put on so much pressure.
"We've always got the ball moving forward and trying to lock it in the forward 50 so it makes it easier as a back."
Vlastuin calls himself a "hybrid" defender; one who can play tall when Astbury or Grimes are off the ground, and one who can chase a small forward around when required to.
He says the backline is a fun place to be, especially when the team is winning. Rance makes their meetings lighthearted, and they've formed a synergy that enables them to make defence look effortless at times.
The level of unity isn't exclusive to the defenders.
There are several players coming out of contract this year – Vlastuin isn't one, he's signed up until the end of 2019 – and it's understood many negotiations have been put on the backburner as the Tigers continue to be linked to free agent Tom Lynch.
However, retaining the group isn't something the bearded premiership defender is losing sleep over.
"I suppose money is one thing, but culture is such a big thing at our footy club," he said.
"You come to work, and you look forward to it. It's not even work when you come to the club, it's that fun.
"The culture that we've grown over the last couple of years is now a massive factor, I think, in blokes wanting to be here."
Vlastuin's iconic "premiership beard" that sprouted after facial stitches early last year prohibited shaving was removed in the days after the Grand Final in preparation for a trip to sultry Indonesia.
But the popularity of the growth, plus a tiny bit of superstition, has meant he's putting in the work to maintain another.
"Through the pre-season I kept it pretty small and then I started growing it in the first week of the pre-season games again," he said.
"I wasn't sure if I was going to keep it or not, but it's kind of become the season beard.
"I think I'll keep growing it, but we'll see how we go … it worked last year, so hopefully, fingers crossed it works again this year."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-20/defence-and-beard-is-growing-on-tiger
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Floss the goalkicking forward ;D :thumbsup. Credit to Dimma too for making the move.
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Floss the goalkicking forward ;D :thumbsup. Credit to Dimma too for making the move.
Yup great contested mark and kick, wouldn’t mind seeing this more often when the matchups call for it.
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the move forward could be handy during the finals. good move from hardwick. he is coaching well.
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Beautiful hands, lovely kick, strong body. Why wouldn't he be good up forward?
A class player that regularly flies under the radar. Love the Tigger!
:thumbsup
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Class player who kicked critical goals.
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Changed the game. Is becoming a star
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If I recall correctly we tried Floss in the forward line at the start of last year ...and it was a flop .
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If I recall correctly we tried Floss in the forward line at the start of last year ...and it was a flop .
Hadn't got his confidence up at that stage.....
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If I recall correctly we tried Floss in the forward line at the start of last year ...and it was a flop .
kicked 3 in his 4th or 5th game against WC @ Spewbiaco
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Floss said on the Sunday Footy Show, he hadn't even trained to play forward. The first he knew about it was when he received the message from our runner to move forward during the third quarter. He tried to ask Higgins where to stand at stoppages but Higgo just laughed and ran off :laugh:.
Matty Lloyd reckoned it surprisingly worked so well Richmond should try Floss pinch hitting up forward from now on.
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Matty Lloyd reckoned it surprisingly worked so well Richmond should try Floss pinch hitting up forward from now on.
The master of the obvious
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Matty Lloyd reckoned it surprisingly worked so well Richmond should try Floss pinch hitting up forward from now on.
The master of the obvious
Did Matty say he needed to work on his diving to be a true forward
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Tormund was awesome
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Vlastuin is becoming a formidable roadblock
Although star tall Alex Rance attracts most of the accolades dished out to Richmond's defence, Nick Vlastuin is becoming an increasingly important member of the Tigers' back six. The former first-round draft pick has struggled at times in his six seasons at Punt Rd to consistently live up to his potential, but his outstanding performance on Sunday against Geelong was the latest and most striking indication that he is finally ready to put his stamp on the competition. The 187cm defender was almost impassable across half-back, pulling down a game-high 11 marks. Most impressively, where other players were struggling to mark cleanly in the slippery conditions, Vlastuin's hands were sure and sticky. In a game where Geelong enjoyed its share of the momentum, Vlastuin more than any other Richmond defender played his part in absorbing that pressure until the Tigers were ready to counter-punch. Richmond will be hoping his performance is a sign of things to come. - Nick Bowen
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-17/six-things-we-learned-from-round-13
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From Robbo's "likes" column:
2. Not everyone has to be fast
Nick Vlastuin is a player of heart and substance and when he is allowed to play loose at the back, as he did at times on Sunday, he imposed himself in manner similar to Luke Hodge. We’re not suggesting he’s a better player than Hodge, but his influence at halfback cannot be denied. Took a game-high 11 marks and had 21 disposals and is tough. Won’t be surprised if he tops the coaches’ votes.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/nick-vlastuin-alan-richardson-and-carlton-among-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-13/news-story/8d62ec46d0a8e0f6d8b0c57560d0992a
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BOG for me yesterday.
Another one of the underrated back six along with Astbury and Grimes
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Almost as important as Rance. :shh
Maybe I should have said just as important as Rance.... :shh
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The Red Beard of Courage.... :clapping
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Absolute star... :bow
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The 187cm defender was almost impassable across half-back, pulling down a game-high 11 marks. Most impressively, where other players were struggling to mark cleanly in the slippery conditions, Vlastuin's hands were sure and sticky.
I remember when I said he was a good mark and got attacked :shh
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Nick Vlastuin’s burgeoning reputation
Vlastuin has strengthened his status as one of the competition’s best small defenders throughout the first half of the 2018 season. Has showcased his elite intercept ability, along with poise, courage, toughness and first-class delivery of the ball out of the backline.
Is averaging 17.1 disposals, 6.8 marks and 4.0 marks per game. Had an AFL career-high 26 disposals against North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium in Round 8.
Ranks 12th in the competition for intercepts per game and 19th for marks per game.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-24/midseason-tiger-talking-points
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Almost a repeat of last year's Grand Final. A goal costing blunder or two early before brilliantly owning the rest of the game. The human wall!
Sadly, we'll lose him for a week with that brainfade of a swinging elbow.
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Yeah total brain fade but they'll lose buddy too.
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I’d take a week and run!
My gut feeling is though it will be 2-3 :-\
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In a separate incident, Vlastuin caught Luke Parker with a stray elbow to the head. Given Parker stayed on the field to take his kick, it's likely to be graded low impact. Michael Christian will therefore decide whether Vlastuin's conduct was careless (fine) or intentional (one week). However, the match review has made it clear they don't like raised elbows – which could be bad news for the important Richmond defender.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-28/five-talking-points-richmond-v-sydney
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Should be a week, however it would be tough to find it as intentional. He wasn’t facing Parker, and was responding to being shoved. Parker took the kick, so medium impact would be the highest they could call it.
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Should be a week, however it would be tough to find it as intentional. He wasn’t facing Parker, and was responding to being shoved. Parker took the kick, so medium impact would be the highest they could call it.
You could have said the same with Houli last year and look how that panned out ::)
100% it will be graded intentional, medium impact 2-3 weeks IMO.
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I reckon Parker put a bit of mayo on the contact but it was still silly by Flossy. I’m expecting 2 as well.
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Should be a week, however it would be tough to find it as intentional. He wasn’t facing Parker, and was responding to being shoved. Parker took the kick, so medium impact would be the highest they could call it.
You could have said the same with Houli last year and look how that panned out ::)
100% it will be graded intentional, medium impact 2-3 weeks IMO.
Agree with you Loiu
Reckon he'll get 2
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I reckon Parker put a bit of mayo on the contact but it was still silly by Flossy. I’m expecting 2 as well.
Did you see Parker when he was having the shot at goal?
Mayo my arse. He’s as tough as they come , Floss got him good
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Can Nick Vlastuin now be classified as an elite player?
By Alex Zaia
SEN
29 June 2018
Former Chief Football Writer at the Herald Sun Mike Sheahan says Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin can now be categorised as an elite player.
Vlastuin was one of the Tigers’ best in their top-of-the-table win over Sydney last night, collecting 21 possessions, taking 10 marks, laying six tackles and booting a goal.
Sheahan believes the 25-year-old is now more than just a dogged shut down defender.
“I’m interested in Nick Vlastuin,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“I thought he was a journeyman until probably Grand Final day last year.
“He’s an elite player Vlastuin. He reads it well and his hands are great.”
Melbourne great Garry Lyon was also impressed by the Richmond premiership player, saying he comprehensively beat his Swans opponent Gary Rohan.
“He played in a manner against Geelong on his own terms, and when I say on his own terms, he was left to his own devices,” Lyon said.
“I thought he almost single handily almost turned that game.
“I’m surprised that any team would let him play on his own. They didn’t last night Sydney, but he was far too good for Gary Rohan, he out bodied Rohan on a couple of occasions.
Herald Sun sports journalist Sam Edmund believes Vlastuin’s ability to run and carry the football was crucial in being able to regularly propel Richmond forward.
“He’s not just a stopper – 525 meters gained,” Edmund said.
“That is a darn good output for a games work, so he drives them forward too.”
Vlastuin could face a stint on the sidelines after elbowing Sydney midfielder Luke Parker in the face during last night's win.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/29/can-nick-vlastuin-now-be-classified-as-an-elite-player/
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Who hasn't comprehensively beaten Gary Rohan :lol
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Should be a week, however it would be tough to find it as intentional. He wasn’t facing Parker, and was responding to being shoved. Parker took the kick, so medium impact would be the highest they could call it.
The umpire let Parker have his way with Vlas in that Parker wouldnt let him up, what was he meant to do?
It should be argued Parkers provocative action caused the incident in that if Parker had let him get up then no contact would have occurred.
Swans play like that sic.:
Same happened when Rance was over the bounday in a tackle and 3 swans jumped on him, Grimes to the rescue.
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One week. Take it and run
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Nick's been charged and can accept 1 week
see RFC website
Take it an run ;D
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Nick's been charged and can accept 1 week
see RFC website
Take it an run ;D
I dunno, I feel that’s about right. It would be hard to find him guilty of intentional, as he wasn’t facing Parker. And hard to find impact as harder that medium as Parker played on - no concussion.
Looked really bad, the actuality was far less IMO.
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I’d take a week and run!
My gut feeling is though it will be 2-3 :-\
Dust off the runners
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Comparing Vlastuin’s incident to Houli’s from last year is a stretch.
1 week is all Vlastuin’s is worth.
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yep was low impact 1 week fair, nowhere near the houli level imo
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One week. Take it and run
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How did Buddy get off with a fine? He could have fractured Rance's larynx with that hit. Far more dangerous than what Vlastuin did.
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How did Buddy get off with a fine? He could have fractured Rance's larynx with that hit. Far more dangerous than what Vlastuin did.
Neck is also apparently treated the same as the head.
One rule for buddy, one rule for everyone else.
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Disgusting, he hacked into his throat, unbelievable, who is this mug? They have been giving Rance a lot of poo lately the umps
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How did Buddy get off with a fine? He could have fractured Rance's larynx with that hit. Far more dangerous than what Vlastuin did.
Neck is also apparently treated the same as the head.
One rule for buddy, one rule for everyone else.
Buddy=Adam Goodes
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I now know who our fifth best player is .
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Disgusting, he hacked into his throat, unbelievable, who is this mug? They have been giving Rance a lot of poo lately the umps
What about the free Buddy got for diving in the first qtr!
If Rance had done that, it would have been front page news for the week.
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
Na, he intentially threw the elbow back to make contact. He just didn’t intentionally mean to make contact with his 3KZ. One week is lucky.
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
He clearly didn’t intend to elbow Parker in the face. His actions afterwards are glaring proof of that. I’d take it to the tribunal.
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
He clearly didn’t intend to elbow Parker in the face. His actions afterwards are glaring proof of that. I’d take it to the tribunal.
The action was intentional though.
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
He clearly didn’t intend to elbow Parker in the face. His actions afterwards are glaring proof of that. I’d take it to the tribunal.
The action was intentional though.
Hmm, okay. So his action was absolutely intended to elbow Parker in the face? Just asking the question...
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Both decisions fair. Buddy was open hand, Vlas elbow.
That's the difference between a suspension and fine
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Graded intentional. Reckon we might challenge that given he wasn't looking at Parker when he threw the elbow back. Could possibly argue that down to careless. Still, am happy it wasn't more than 1.
He clearly didn’t intend to elbow Parker in the face. His actions afterwards are glaring proof of that. I’d take it to the tribunal.
Based on the way the old and new MRP breakdown each action, I don't think it matters where it was intended for, just that it was intentional in its own right. Then they break down where the strike occurred, then grade the impact.
So then incident was Intentional+Head+Low Impact..... I reckon he was going to get 2 weeks, so lucky with one.
But using the same with the Buddy to Rance's throat incident.... Intentional+High+Low Impact (debatable)... should have got a week if Chrisso wanted to be consistent with the gradings...
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Throat is vulnerable, it was deliberate and the edge of your hand is dangerous, we use strikes with it, they call it tegatanu in Japanese, hand blade. It wasn't a slap or a push.
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The more I have looked at the Vlastuin’s incident the more it looks low impact. Imo his tricep hits Parker’s face not his elbow. Big difference.
Not sure if I’m just being “one eyed” as I love Vlastuin but it doesn’t look all that much the more you watch it??
Thoughts??
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The more I have looked at the Vlastuin’s incident the more it looks low impact. Imo his tricep hits Parker’s face not his elbow. Big difference.
Not sure if I’m just being “one eyed” as I love Vlastuin but it doesn’t look all that much the more you watch it??
Thoughts??
Take the week.
The might make an example if we appeal it.
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The more I have looked at the Vlastuin’s incident the more it looks low impact. Imo his tricep hits Parker’s face not his elbow. Big difference.
Not sure if I’m just being “one eyed” as I love Vlastuin but it doesn’t look all that much the more you watch it??
Thoughts??
It was low impact, wasnt much in it just happened to get him right in the sweet spot - some of the calls that it would be 2-3 weeks were ridiculous.
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The more I have looked at the Vlastuin’s incident the more it looks low impact. Imo his tricep hits Parker’s face not his elbow. Big difference.
Not sure if I’m just being “one eyed” as I love Vlastuin but it doesn’t look all that much the more you watch it??
Thoughts??
It was low impact, wasnt much in it just happened to get him right in the sweet spot - some of the calls that it would be 2-3 weeks were ridiculous.
Im happy to put my hand up and say I thought he’d cop 2-3!
More than happy to take the one match and run!!
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It didn't look good . Deserves a week.
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take the week, they will get pissy about his eyeball despite the fact he tried to shove him head first into the grass and fell over into Vlastuins elbow that he raised to balance himself
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Richmond assistant coach Ben Rutten provides an insight into the impressive rise of top Tiger defender Nick Vlastuin.
Strong progression
“I think every year he’s got better and better . . . He’s been able to really cement himself and become an integral part of that back six. He’s got a really calm head and he’s strong in the contest, which we love about him. And he’s a really smart ball user as well.”
Midfield move
“We know what he can do down in defence and we thought maybe we could play him a little bit through the midfield and have a bit of a rotation there. But I think we just understood his value down in defence. When he was in the midfield he did a good job there, but we really missed him in defence. He’s happy . . . he understands the role that he plays in the team there.”
Elite intercept ability
“He’s such a good ball-winner back off the opposition, which is really important, especially when you’re able to take the ball from a mark . . . He’s got the ability to win genuine one-on-ones. And he’s also got the ability to read (the play) and work off his man and help his teammates. He balances out ‘Rancey’ (Alex Rance), Dave (David Astbury) and ‘Grimesy’ (Dylan Grimes) and also our running half-backs. He’s a good intermediate player between those two lines.”
Good leadership qualities
“He’s pretty calm, composed and considered about what he does. He knows all the answers to everything and he’s a real leader, especially for that younger group, connecting him with some of the more experienced players.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-18/coaches-corner-nick-vlastuin
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IS VLASTUIN THE NEW HODGE?
“He is the most prolific intercept marker across the half-back flank this season”
Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin is quickly becoming a “Luke Hodge clone”, according to leading football analyst David King.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-friday-august-3-2018/news-story/c18720bab8ebfdc40959dd7eb8e04416
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Looks like Floss is doing extra running to up his endurance base for a run in the midfield next year.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuGH_M0U8AAURGz.jpg)
https://twitter.com/KiwiTiger12/status/1072287732813058048
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Looks like Floss is doing extra running to up his endurance base for a run in the midfield next year.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuGH_M0U8AAURGz.jpg)
https://twitter.com/KiwiTiger12/status/1072287732813058048
Didn't we try that before? He is a defender and a bloody good one. We just need to embrace that.
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Probably just for cameos in the guts....need him down back but the more versatile players we have the better....Total Football..... actually think he has far more potential as a forward than a mid though.... :shh
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On SEN, he mentioned that he hadn’t done much training at all due to the extended break and missing training to go to the AFLPA conference last week.
Maybe he’s catching up
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Yeah I don’t think running laps necessarily equates to midfield time. Pretty sure defenders need to be relatively fit these days too...
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The guy could play anyway if given half a chance. Absolute star I reckon.
Definitely one of my favs
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Nick Vlastuin has had a career-best match tonight. His 28 disposals beats his previous personal best of 26, and he has equaled his career-best for intercept marks with seven. His 13 marks is a game-high, as well as his 13 intercept possessions.
Source: AFL website.
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I'm liking the little competition between him and Grimes for backline General :cheers
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I'm liking the little competition between him and Grimes for backline General :cheers
Kinda silences the no Rance no richmond crap
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Astbury is the issue in our defence. Vlastuin and Grimes are playing brilliantly in Rances absence.
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Astbury is usually good, he has a couple of dirty ones big deal
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BOG last night imo.
I think him and Grimes are in career best form.
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Astbury is usually good, he has a couple of dirty ones big deal
lol
Astbury has been 💩
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He has last few games but he isn't normally, looks like he is crook or something, not much mojo going on. He usually has a great pair of mitts and one of our best marks win or lose, I am just saying he will come good again.
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Floss was immense today. A courageous defensive wall.
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Floss was immense today. A courageous defensive wall.
:thumbsup
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In All-Australian form. Floss was again the wall in defence. Must have had 10+ intercept marks.
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Tough, strong hips, great hands, footy smarts. Genuinely elite
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Massive again
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He has become a brilliant player in his role. Hodgesque to some degree.
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BOG easily
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Vlastuin finished the match with 19 disposals, nine contested possessions, nine marks, seven rebound-50s, 13 intercepts, five score involvements and was as solid as a brick wall in the Tigers’ defence, making it extremely tough for the Lions to find a way through.
Throughout the 2019 home-and-away season, Vlastuin averaged 19.3 disposals, 6.5 marks, 4.5 rebound-50s and 8.0 intercepts per game.
He is currently ranked third in the competition for intercepts and 14th for marks.
Read more: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-08-25/fantastic-vlastuin
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Five score involvements from a back man! :clapping :bow
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Vlastuin is averaging an AFL career-high 19.3 disposals per game this season, along with 8.0 intercepts, 6.5 marks and 4.5 rebound-50s.
He’s ranked third in the competition for intercepts and 14th for marks.
“A guy for Richmond who is so under-rated, and I can’t believe he’s still under-rated, is Vlastuin,” Carey said on AFL.com.au’s ‘Pick A Winner’ program.
“He’s an incredible player this bloke.
“He’s so good in the air, good on the ground, can play tall. He’s unbelievable.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-09-06/carey-acclaims-vlastuin
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Nick Vlastuin – 6
Played an important role in defence without finding a lot of the footy. Did what was required and kept the Cats' medium-sized forwards under control.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-20/every-tiger-rated-from-the-preliminary-final
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'Bloody hell, not again': Tiger admits to prelim feelings of deja vu
AFL.com.au
Callum Twomey
Sep 24, 2019
THE THOUGHT ran through Nick Vlastuin's head.
Richmond was staring down the barrel of another shock preliminary final loss as the Tigers headed into half-time trailing by 21 points last Friday against Geelong.
Everyone at the MCG was thinking back to last year's defeat at the hands of Collingwood in the corresponding game, and Vlastuin admits he was too.
"You've got moments where you do think 'Oh bloody hell, not again'," the Richmond defender told AFL.com.au this week.
"But we've done so much mental training over the past three years and you do rely on your teammates to pull you out of it … it's only natural to think of things like that, but then you try to pull your focus back to something useful."
The Tigers did just that, storming into a second Grand Final in three seasons. They will aim to repeat their 2017 heroics against Greater Western Sydney on Saturday.
This time feels different for Vlastuin and the Tigers. The breakthrough premiership of two years ago ended a 37-year drought for Richmond, while this one would cap a three-year period of dominance.
The Tigers have won 55 of their 73 games since the start of 2017, and Vlastuin says they reach this flag decider in another manner.
"A lot more thought's been put into this one I reckon. The first time we went there it was us making it up as we went along. We didn't really know what we were missing out on when you didn't win the flag, and even when we did win it we didn't really know what it meant," he said.
"So many fans after 2017 come up to you and know exactly where they were in 1980 when they last won it. This one will feel different for sure if we're lucky enough to be leading after the final siren, but they'll both be special for different reasons just because we've done it before and we know how hard it is to get there.
"Last year we had an unbelievable year and then we fell prelim week and Collingwood smacked us that day.
"We do know it doesn't matter how good you are during the year, if you're not the best on the last Saturday of September then it doesn't matter. We didn't even get that opportunity last year. This is a continuation of last year."
Vlastuin's rise has also been a continuation of last year. The 25-year-old has become one of the leading medium defenders in the competition, capable of shutting down forwards of all shapes and sizes.
That will have to be the case this week, with a range of opponents expected.
"Footy these days, you never spend much time on just one person. Apart from the key forwards and key backs, and the rucks, you work that team defence rather than one-on-ones," he said.
"I'll spend time on Toby [Greene], might even spend a bit on 'Jezza' [Cameron] if he goes up the ground a bit, and Brent Daniels, and whichever midfielders rest down there as well."
Whoever it is, Vlastuin's role won't be small. He doesn't believe the rhetoric that Richmond needs a second flag to cash in on its rich three years, but he has let his mind wander about what it would mean to add another medallion to his collection.
"A lot of teams have been one-time premiership teams and one-time premiership players, but to be a two-time premiership team would be pretty special," he said.
"But hopefully our era continues in years to come so we get even more cracks at it. It's not like this is our last opportunity and everyone's leaving and retiring."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-24/bloody-hell-not-again-tiger-admits-to-prelim-feelings-of-dejavu
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Nick Vlastuin – 8
One of the Tigers' best. Constantly found a way to roll off his man and intercept while Astbury, Grimes and Broad took care of their opponents. Had a match-high 12 marks and gained 570m from his 22 disposals. A perfect complement to the best organised backline in the competition.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-28/player-ratings-richmond
NICK VLASTUIN 8
Premiership Beard of not, the Tigers’ interceptor delivered. Picked off the Giants’ inside-50 entries like a seasoned Goulburn Valley fruit picker.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/afl-grand-final-player-ratings-dustin-martin-and-bachar-houli-shine-toby-green-phil-davis-flop/news-story/3b13f40fe020027c0e71ae275f356ff2
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Torquay Tiger Vlastuin misses the den as pandemic reality bites
Michael Gleeson
The Age
31 March 2020
When footy stopped Nick Vlastuin did what he does whenever the football merry-go-round offers a break: he retreated to the beach.
Vlastuin is in Torquay completing two townhouses he has been building. He is a qualified carpenter and working towards his building licence. The places are at lock-up stage and with footy in limbo he has spent his time on the tools doing the finishing touches.
From an unwelcome break, it was a welcome opportunity.
But, like everyone, he is sick of looking at four walls, no matter how perfectly straight he has now made them. He'd rather see 40 teammates. He'd rather see a dozen coaches and medicos. He'd rather see a Sherrin and the clock on the Punt Road silo.
Vlastuin is a keen surfer and he has been trying to get in the water to keep his fitness up but even that is proving difficult.
The disregard of physical-distancing rules, with thousands laying on towels on top of one another at beaches, saw the car parks at his favourite surf spot at Point Addis closed. So he can barely get to the beach now, let alone get a wave.
He doesn’t have weights or a gym at Torquay so he is stuck improvising with building materials in the backyard for weights, going for runs and kicking a ball to himself.
“I have to do the running, I can’t afford not to do the running but I can afford not to do weights for a while and pick it up again,” he said.
Vlastuin loves the summers at Torquay, which makes for a conundrum as football looks to push back into his regular summer break.
On the one hand he gets to play, which is good. On the other hand he has, well, the complexion for winter sport (he might be a keen surfer but wetsuits offer more protection than a black and yellow footy jumper and a pair of shorts).
“I am not usually too good in the hot weather and the sun, being pale skinned so footy in the off-season when you are usually wanting to do something else is not great but playing footy is better than not playing footy,” Vlastuin said.
“I would like to fit those games in and be able to play. And then we won’t have to do as long a pre-season for next year, which is a positive.”
The coronavirus at one point appeared likely to present Richmond with a competitive edge over the rest of the competition as an experienced and physically mature group. And perhaps if teams return to play again this year after a long limbo it will be the more physically mature teams that cope best with the impact of the hiatus on training.
“There was talk about that early days when restrictions were coming in that it could give us a competitive advantage because the club looked after us so well. They said the measures are this but let's go over and above to get an advantage,” Vlastuin said.
“Now who knows if the season goes ahead or not. At the moment we have bigger things to worry about.”
Vlastuin said he was glad the season started and enjoyed the novelty of the crowd-free game, but thinks the novelty will get old fast and players will miss the crowds as much as crowds miss the players.
That said he was also relieved when the season was postponed.
“We had already had new measures in, training was only in groups of six. One of the best things about footy is hanging around with 40 of your mates, so by the end of the week it was like what is the point?
“We didn’t have a choice in the end. When it got called off it was a bit of a relief in the end because of the keyboard warriors.
“It was nothing personally directed towards me but you would see on Instagram the AFL would post a photo and the top comments were people hammering players for playing.
“But then on the other hand my mates and heaps of people you would speak [to] were rapt about footy going ahead.”
Richmond, as the reigning premier, the team that has two flags in three years, returned this year and in round one looked to have lost no hunger.
All sides will be frustrated at the season being taken away but for a side with a strong early claim on this year’s premiership and thus for a flag that would enhance its historic standing, or dynasty, it is an added frustration to the postponement. It is not an aspect Vlastuin gives voice to.
“Maybe in 10 years we will look back on this season and say what if we got a full season? But at the moment footy seems second fiddle to everything else. People are losing their lives.
‘’Maybe in five years or 10 years people will look back and say that.”
The bigger concern for him right now is looking around and seeing only the townhouses he is building and not his 40 teammates. It is looking around and knowing that the coaches and people he works with so closely are not there, they are at home without a wage and the deep uncertainty of whether they will have jobs at the end of all of this and how they will put food on the table in the meantime.
“All of our coaches have been stood down and are not getting paid, I want to get back playing as soon as I can so they can get paid and get their jobs back.”
https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/afl/torquay-tiger-vlastuin-keen-to-prowl-again-20200330-p54fck.html
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Nick Vlastuin on Dwayne's World - Friday 3rd May [6:38 mins]
Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin speaks to Dwayne live from the building site.
Nick Vlastuin spoke to @DwaynesWorldSEN today about the players' current training program while in isolation.
AUDIO: https://player.whooshkaa.com/sen-afternoons?episode=613577
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Floss is the latest Tiger to be interviewed by Ch 7 news ;D.
It's coming up in their sports report.
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Dual premiership Tiger Nick Vlastuin would totally understand if one of his teammates refused to go into a quarantine hub for family reasons. The star defender is loving life in lockdown - building a house - as he builds towards another premiership at Punt Road. @SeanSowerby7
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1254695188787691526
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AFL star says family comes ahead of quarantine hubs
Eamonn Tiernan
7News
Monday, 27 April 2020 7:34 pm
Richmond dual premiership defender Nick Vlastuin says he would completely understand if one of his teammates refused to go into a quarantine hub for family reasons.
The AFL will almost certainly require clubs to relocate to restart the season which has been suspended since March 22, but Vlaustuin says family comes first.
The 26-year-old pointed to players Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin who has three young children and said the strain of moving away would prove too great.
“It would just be too hard on the families, and all that mental health stuff as well,” Vlaustin told 7NEWS.
“Trent Cotchin has three young kids at home, if his wife can’t even just can’t get his mother-in-law around to help her because of these restictions at the moment, you can’t expect Trent to leave for six seven weeks to go off to a hub.”
Vlastuin has accepted cuts to club playing lists are inevitable as the game deals with the the financial fallout of the coronavirus pandemic.
“It’s going to have to happen I think, the industry has lost so much money, we can’t keep going at the rate we were so something has got to give,” he said.
“You do feel for everyone.”
Vlastuin is one of 10 Richmond players currently completing carpentry apprenticeships and is helping build his beach house while the game is shut down.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-star-says-family-comes-ahead-of-quarantine-hubs-c-1001413
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A two-time premiership Tiger will return from the footy shutdown with some sharpened skills on the tools.
Nick Vlastuin has been hard at work on the building site and he's jumped on board a special cause. 7NEWS.com.au @_AMcCormack7 @FightMND @NealeDaniher #7NEWS
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1261582225272791040
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Flag Tiger sinks teeth into building townhouses during iso
By Mitch Cleary
afl.com.au
16 May 2016
WHEN Richmond's players return to training on Monday, Nick Vlastuin might take some adjusting.
In nine weeks away from Punt Road, the dual premiership Tiger has been immersed in putting the finishing touches on two townhouses he's been building in Torquay.
So much so that he's rarely ventured up the highway back to Melbourne – one being for his compulsory COVID-19 test at Marvel Stadium on Wednesday.
In relocating to the coastal town without access to a gym or equipment, the 26-year-old has been forced to think outside the square when not working or surfing.
"It's involved running three or four times a week and any weights you can I suppose," Vlastuin said.
"Not everyone has access to a gym, so we've been doing Zoom push-up calls for a bit of fun."
Vlastuin is one of several Tigers who took up the push from Richmond four or five years ago to begin a carpentry apprenticeship that was completed last year.
Kamdyn McIntosh has been working full-time during isolation, while Jayden Short has also accepted the invitation to join a friend on the tools.
"(It was) pretty much every day off for three or three years and I completed it 12 months ago," Vlastuin said.
"I always planned to get more hands on the tools and this lockdown came when my house hit lock-up so I've been on the tools every day since.
"It's been a bit of a sneak peek into life after footy for me.
"Having the trade to lean back gives you confidence that if footy does all of a sudden end I know I've got something to go into."
Like so many tradesmen, Vlastuin has been frequenting the local Bunnings Warehouse in Torquay where he collected his Big Freeze beanie on sale for $20 nationwide to support FightMND.
With games to return on June 11 – three days after Queen's Birthday – plans are still being developed between Collingwood and Melbourne to support the cause when they meet in 2020.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/434006/flag-tiger-sinks-teeth-into-building-townhouses-during-iso
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For mine, Floss is one of the few Tigers who hasn't dropped away so far this year. While most of his teammates are fumbling, missing simple targets and running over the footy, Floss in defence remains reliable and is clean by hand and foot.
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For mine, Floss is one of the few Tigers who hasn't dropped away so far this year. While most of his teammates are fumbling, missing simple targets and running over the footy, Floss in defence remains reliable and is clean by hand and foot.
Agreed. Most of our defenders were solid enough last night I thought.
Our backline ain't the problem.
Our midfield and forward line are spew-worthy.
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Grimes & Vlastuin are undisputed guns...but reckon Astbury - who was always the weakest link of the Rance-Grimes-Astbury triumvirate - is starting to look like the end is getting ever closer and Broad's always been "enigmatic"....Houli's serving up a mixed bag too...when he's not injured and will probably retire at year's end...and my well known view of Short hasn't altered one iota...yet it's still somehow working reasonably well as a unit ... just not sure for how long...particularly if the ball keeps coming down there at the current rate...:shh
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For mine, Floss is one of the few Tigers who hasn't dropped away so far this year. While most of his teammates are fumbling, missing simple targets and running over the footy, Floss in defence remains reliable and is clean by hand and foot.
Yep been our best this year.
And his leadership qualities are showing as well...
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Entire defence has been fine, we’ve only conceded 100 points over the past 2 weeks. Haven’t looked it up myself but I’m sure if you looked up inside 50s conceded, shots at goal conceded, etc, they will all be around the mark of the past few years.
Problem is higher up the field. Our forwards have been anonymous but they’re not helped at all by the crap entries we’ve been making. How many times last night did they just bomb it in long to around the 40-45m mark? Hawks went tall in defence and once you turn it over with shallow entries you’re in trouble.
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Showcasing his trademark intelligent reading of the play, poise, toughness and precision by hand and foot, he finished the match with 22 disposals, 10 intercepts, six marks, five score involvement and five rebound-50s.
Vlastuin has been a strong performer in the Richmond defence for many seasons, and certainly would not look out of place wearing an All-Australian blazer.
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/720243/vlastuin-flies-the-flag
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For mine, Floss is one of the few Tigers who hasn't dropped away so far this year. While most of his teammates are fumbling, missing simple targets and running over the footy, Floss in defence remains reliable and is clean by hand and foot.
Yep been our best this year.
And his leadership qualities are showing as well...
I was surprised that they didn’t swing down forward in the second half. He has pinched hit there in the past, from memory against the Saints a couple of years ago.
We could’ve done with his poise and he’s a decent shot for goal too...
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My Story: Richmond's Nick Vlastuin on family, footy, surfing ...
Nick Vlastuin reveals sledge that welcomed him to AFL.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/my-story-richmonds-nick-vlastuin-on-family-footy-surfing-and-more/news-story/7b5eba72cf21acd90da856b8cee0d9e5
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Floss is one of the few Tigers having as good 2020 as last year.
Second most kicks.
Second for marks.
Third in contested marks.
Second for Rebound D50s.
Second for one percenters.
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Leading our B&F by the length of Flemington straight already. Also our only player in AA form
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Leading our B&F by the length of Flemington straight already. Also our only player in AA form
Yep agree.
He has been our best player for sure.
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Floss' 150th tonight :clapping
2013 18 games
2014 20
2015 23
2016 19
2017 16
2018 21
2019 24
2020 9*
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Total 150* games
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/N/Nick_Vlastuin.html
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Future captain
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Future captain
Next year?
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Future captain
Next year?
I think cotch will captain another couple of years yet. Be interesting to see if they add another player to the leadership group to take rances spot.
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Grimes for me. Floss vice
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I have no idea who's vocal and is a good leader off the field, but on field I would take vlastuin over Grimes.
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Nick Vlastuin
Rarely wasted a possession. Just the one mark and one tackle though. The backline didn’t have its best night and Vlastuin was part of that group.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-second-qualifying-final-reviews-stats-tigers-best-and-worst-players/news-story/156df1b76297836ac1f12af8237ff86c)
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Nick Vlastuin
Went without a mark for majority of the game before grabbing one late, but the tough Tiger laid six tackles and fought hard in defensive 50. He did appear to miss out on spoiling a Saints goal, but luckily for Tigers fans it was judged as a behind.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-st-kilda-second-semi-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/afdeaa6b7f13cced41d21c91e03b900e)
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Nick Vlastuin
Very clean with the footy with his 11 disposals, which was tough for most on a torrid old night. Nine of those 11 touches were intercept possessions. Impressively clean performance.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
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Nick Vlastuin moved from choppy waters to the next wave
By Peter Ryan
The Age
October 22, 2020
Three times a week when the swell was up, he packed his borrowed board and headed out with teammate Hugo Ralphsmith to search for lefts along the coast.
When it wasn't pumping, the red-headed goofy footer with a complexion more suited to shade than the sun grabbed the Mick Fanning soft top he bought and mucked around in the slush.
"Just to have that escape where you are alone and you do enjoy doing it, yeah, it's been really fun and the water is a lot warmer up here the middle of winter. Down in Torquay is pretty cold," Vlastuin said.
Most of the time the Tigers' pair made the 30-minute drive from Carrara to Burleigh Heads. But a trip one day to South Stradbroke paid dividends when they bumped into professional surfer and Richmond fan Nikki van Dijk on the water, while she was competing in a tournament.
"You paddle up where the rip is against the rock wall. We were sitting there so she said 'g'day' and then went down and did her heat," Vlastuin said.
"It was pretty big there."
Vlastuin had met van Dijk at Bells Beach before but the chance meeting with her on Queensland waters, midway through the footy season, summed up how strange 2020 had become.
His own description of the season could characterise his football.
"It's been fun [but] it's been hard at the same time," Vlastuin said.
The 26-year-old, who kept a low profile in his first 150 games, has paddled through a few monster sets this year, including the Mabior Chol groping incident, the staging furore and even a little online spat about whether he touched a shot at goal after the Tigers' semi-final win over St Kilda.
And he's come through the other side, into his third grand final in four years after a season in which many good judges thought he was unlucky to miss out on All-Australian selection, juggling a stone as he bounces on his feet and talks from Richmond's hub.
Vlastuin did not want to say much about the Chol controversy, having admitted when he apologised at the time to being embarrassed. He would prefer to move on and put it behind him.
His main concern was for Chol and although the reaction of those outside the club unnerved him slightly the process-driven grandson of a Dutch prisoner-of-war worked his way through the issue.
"People are always going to have their opinions. You can't call everyone out, you can't keep everyone happy. At the same time, it's just [important to] value the people around you I suppose," Vlastuin said.
"I had more cameras on me after that than ever before. Things that weren't even a big deal, all of a sudden they were blown up."
He called people out on Twitter after the goal review question a few weeks ago but for the most part he has avoided social media and he's been more likely to watch The Bachelor than the news while in the Sunshine State.
Being out on the water helped Vlastuin, who likes to spend time on the surf coast at places such as Craypots and Back Addis and Winki – if it's not too crowded – gain perspective on whatever was bubbling away.
"Even just being off your phone for that long ... you're so connected these days and you can't bring your phone out in the water," Vlastuin said.
"I really, really enjoy footy when I am here but I also enjoy being able to do other stuff."
That other stuff includes building a house in Torquay where his girlfriend Georgia, who grew up on the surf coast, has remained while he has been away. That his grand final opponent is Geelong has him slightly worried about that project now.
"I have a couple of tradies working on my house who are all Cats fans so I'm trying to get them to finish before the weekend," Vlastuin joked.
The weekend looms now and Vlastuin is ready after the club's heroic win over Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.
At times he's felt uncomfortable rather than the unflappable Tiger who his mum has called "Tigger" since he turned four.
But no longer. Now he is ready, the distractions behind him, the lessons learned, and the challenge obvious: beat Geelong to become premiers.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/nick-vlastuin-moved-from-choppy-waters-to-the-next-wave-20201021-p5671l.html
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Nick Vlastuin – 1
An absolute nightmare two days for Vlastuin, with one of his properties the subject of an arson attack, and then knocked out cold in the opening three minutes of the match. Collided with the arm of Patrick Dangerfield – who had completed a spoil milliseconds prior – and was stretchered off.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/521174/tigers-player-ratings-no-passengers-on-the-tiger-train)
Nick Vlastuin
Vlastuin played just a few minutes of the final after being knocked out by an accidental Patrick Dangerfield elbow. The crucial defender laid two early tackles, but was taken from the ground on a stretcher in a sickening incident.
Rating: 4
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-dustin-martin-player-ratings-tigers-stats-best-and-worst-players-afl-finals-gabba/news-story/2c23bd9c6b85150e3f828938dc9c0006)
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2 tackles in 3min, then went back with the flight.
A good 3min
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Vlastuin overcomes fire drama, concussion to celebrate with Tigers
Peter Ryan
The Age
October 26, 2020
The past four days didn't contain the most pleasant experiences of Nick Vlastuin's life but a premiership medal around his neck was enough to push what he endured to the back of his mind as he celebrated his third flag in four seasons on Sunday.
On Friday morning, the 26-year-old woke to the news that someone had tried to burn down a townhouse he has been building in Torquay, with a police investigation underway to find out who set fire to the place.
Luckily the damage, while significant enough, was limited to the doorway of the house and no one was injured but it was hardly the news a player wants when far from home the day before playing in a grand final.
He only shared the information with the media department and a few teammates so as not to upset anyone else's preparation but the incident occupied his mind throughout the day as others kept him up to speed with what had occurred while they dealt with the matter back in Victoria.
"That is pretty much all I thought about on Friday," Vlastuin said.
"I did some work with the psychologist Emma Murray [and] kinda put it to bed Friday night and then woke up Saturday feeling pretty fresh.
"I hadn't thought about the game very much and maybe it was a good thing in the end."
In the end all the preparation didn't amount to much when Vlastuin bore the brunt of Patrick Dangerfield's forearm as he courageously tracked a loose ball into oncoming traffic and was knocked out cold just six minutes into the grand final.
The defender, who was unlucky not to be All-Australian in 2020, did not know who the Tigers were playing or what month it was when he returned to the bench having only become lucid when he was receiving stitches in the rooms and was immediately ruled out of the game.
Skipper Trent Cotchin said Vlastuin's effort to get back on the bench was phenomenal and it was from there that the defender watched his teammates win.
Rather than feeling disappointed at missing being part of the action, he was proud of the effort given they were one man down and their backline was slightly disorganised for a period afterwards.
"I was just rapt the boys got it done for me to be honest," Vlastuin said.
"If we had lost by a point or something and I had been sitting on the bench the whole game I would be that flat."
He bore no ill-will towards Dangerfield and although he could not remember being stretchered off he had enough memory after he returned to the bench to discuss the game with teammates.
On the night he just found himself a role and performed it as well as he could.
"Afterwards I remembered a fair bit. I was trying to stay up and about on the bench and trying to get around the guys and remind them what their strengths were when they came off," Vlastuin said.
Now he is a three-time premiership defender and a key element of the drama of the 2020 grand final.
"It's pretty cool [but it] hasn't really sunk in. This one has been one of the toughest easily for myself, for the club, for my family so it is just good reward," Vlastuin said.
He is looking forward to being back with his girlfriend Georgia in Torquay to reflect on a year that taught him so much, despite ending abruptly on the football field, and deal with the damage done to his townhouse.
Cotchin said his attitude after the match was exemplary, with the customary smile and upbeat attitude on display.
"He's a bit worse for wear ... if he was [disappointed] he hasn't shown it. It shows the incredible person he is. He is just savouring the moment [as] premierships aren't just won on the day," Cotchin said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/vlastuin-overcomes-fire-drama-concussion-to-celebrate-with-tigers-20201025-p568f7.html
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From the MRO:
The incident between Geelong Cats' Patrick Dangerfield and Richmond's Nick Vlastuin from the first quarter of Saturday's game between Richmond and the Geelong Cats was assessed. The ball is loose. Vlastuin and Dangerfield approach the ball from opposing directions. Dangerfield punches the ball and in the process makes high contact to Vlastuin. It was the view of the MRO that Dangerfield's actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/522741/match-review-superstar-cat-cleared-over-vlastuin-hit
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From the MRO:
The incident between Geelong Cats' Patrick Dangerfield and Richmond's Nick Vlastuin from the first quarter of Saturday's game between Richmond and the Geelong Cats was assessed. The ball is loose. Vlastuin and Dangerfield approach the ball from opposing directions. Dangerfield punches the ball and in the process makes high contact to Vlastuin. It was the view of the MRO that Dangerfield's actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/522741/match-review-superstar-cat-cleared-over-vlastuin-hit
:rollin
What surprise.....NOT
Guarantee if it was any other player in the comp they would have been cited
Yes he punched the ball but the he braced for contact leading with his elbow out and made contact with a blokes head
You know the head, supposedly sacrosanct.. in certain situations :gobdrop
But whatever
We on the flag :gotigers
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Guarantee SHocking made sure he got off. They either had to give him 8wks (double penalty in GF) or let him off. It’s BS but that’s the AFL way under the dopey Geesook guy that now runs this area.
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Surely you can’t give a 1 to someone who gets knocked out 5 mins of play. At least an N/A. A 1 implies he stunk it up.
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Surely you can’t give a 1 to someone who gets knocked out 5 mins of play. At least an N/A. A 1 implies he stunk it up.
Well he did beat two players in the rankings
42. Nick Vlastuin (RIC)
43. Jake Kolodjashnij (GEE)
44. Tom Lynch (RIC)
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Surely you can’t give a 1 to someone who gets knocked out 5 mins of play. At least an N/A. A 1 implies he stunk it up.
2 tackles in the first 3min.
If you extrapolate that for a full game then he was on track for about 68 for the match.
Couple that with fearlessly going back with the flight...
Gets 10/10 from me!
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I have had countless arguments with this decision not to suspend Danger.
When did it become OK to hurt someone when either bracing for contact or playing the ball. Isn't that why reckless and duty of care a word used?
Under this theory you can roundhouse a ball in a pack or a full blown mule kick and any collateral damage is 'playing the ball'.
Side from that, Danger wasn't bracing for contact there was two actions, his arm actually extended so there was evidence of force going the other way not 'bracing'. He knew exactly what he was doing. Nick stupidly went low but doesn't matter, it is as inconsistent to anything I've ever seen.
Punch the ball and then put your forearm or elbow into someones skull. All good, play on.
We won so I guess who cares, I'm just dirty that Nick's night was ruined by 'Mr deserves a premiership'.
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stuff Dangerfield in his hole the filthy dog.
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/838446/grand-recollections-nick-vlastuin?videoId=838446&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1606330920001
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Well Dangerfield’s night will be immortalised for his dog act on Vlastuin and getting pantsed by Martin. Good times!!!!
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Floss said on 7news tonight that he has no recollection of the GF. Most of the day is a blank. He just remembers tiny bits such as a couple of Dusty's freak goals and the medal presentation.
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After half time nothing to remember Danger and Co went missing.
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Floss said on 7news tonight that he has no recollection of the GF. Most of the day is a blank. He just remembers tiny bits such as a couple of Dusty's freak goals and the medal presentation.
Me too Flossy ;D
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"Nick got that knee complaint," Hardwick said.
"We're not exactly sure what that is … but he'll have scans tomorrow. But from our point of view, it was fine. Once again, you look at the game, there are 75 rotations … it was tough. It is going to be difficult.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/03/18/581029d7-86b5-4beb-8413-5840aac38242/YLXFfd2y.jpg?width=708&height=1062)
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/563557/dimma-backs-positive-impact-of-subs-new-blue-s-weird-debut)
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Nick Vlastuin fears cartilage damage to his knee which he hyperextended last night. Denied sub tactics were at play. “Couldn’t walk up and down stairs so definitely couldn’t have played.”
Hear from @Richmond_FC defender @9NewsMelb.
https://twitter.com/coreynorris9/status/1372749816879476738
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Update: @nickvlastuin says ppl who doubt his injury are ‘idiots’. Playing on would’ve been a risk. Had to get a mate to do his socks and shoes for him. Can’t bend knee, drive or do stairs. Not sure if he’ll miss games issue with ‘the cartilage or the fat pad’.
More @7NewsMelbourne
https://twitter.com/ChrisKStubbs/status/1372736720433676290
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Any word?
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dont agree with injury sub rule at all.
We went from 18 with 19 20 man to 18 with two rotations to 22 with 4 rotations. Over the last decade we have had numerous rule changes to combat the effect of interchange that allows teams to run and flood at will. What is the point of reducing down to 75 rotations supposedly to tire players so they cant run as hard both ways and flood then allow a bloke to come on fresh defeats the purpose a tad imo.
Also what about the duty of care what happens if a player the size of say dusty comes on fresh as a daisy half way thru the third and cleans up a few who are fatigued.
No wonder so many people in my age group are turned off against the game.
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Just extend the bench to five or even six. With the new interchange limits that are likely going to decrease even further in the future it shouldn't be that big of a deal.Agree with Hardwick that the more players getting opportunities to play senior footy, the better...just not this way... :shh
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It’s a similar story for Nick Vlastuin at Richmond. The three-time premiership defender, who was the subject of speculation regarding the seriousness of his injury, has been very sore in the days since he hyperextended his knee against the Blues.
The Tigers say he remains an outside chance to play in Round 2, but is more likely to need more time to recover from the injury.
Any player who is subbed from a game and looking to play the next week, must have his eligibility approved by AFL chief medical officer, Peter Harcourt.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/03/22/carlton-forward-avoids-shoulder-surgery-key-tiger-set-to-miss-round-2/
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Caro last night said Floss is expected to play this Sunday. The 9-day break has helped.
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Peter Burge's update on Floss:
Nick Vlastuin, knee
"During the game, Nick came off the ground and was in quite a bit of pain with his knee, which we think was a hyperextension incident where he was trying to kick the ball off the ground and did not make contact with the ball.
“He came off the ground and he was in a lot of pain and he could barely walk down the stairs into the race into the doctor's rooms.
“Initially we were not too sure what was going on. We thought it could have been a significant corky above his knee, but subsequently, we (also) thought it could be something more sinister (like) structural damage or some kind of subluxation in his knee joint.
“The scans the next day showed he had a little bit of fluid in his knee, but he had squashed the fat pad in his knee and it bled quite a bit, hence his restriction.
“He could not bend his knee at all when he was assessed and we were assessing him for up to 10 minutes, trying tape and various things.
“He definitely was no good to go back out on the ground to play the rest of the game.
“He has been pretty sore over the weekend and has only started walking normally today, so we are hopeful that by the end of the week he would be able to be back in some sort of jogging and running and we will be able to assess how he progresses from there.""
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/887128/injury-report-round-2-2021
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He’s resigned for 5 more years ..... on the club website. Great news. Fantastic player. We need to look after our triple premiership players ;D
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Future leader signing by the looks
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Five years for Vlastuin
By Richmond Media - 1 hr ago
Triple premiership defender Nick Vlastuin has committed his long-term future to Richmond, putting pen to paper on a five-year deal this week.
The contract extension will see Vlastuin remain at Tigerland until at least the end of 2026.
Vlastuin, a star interceptor is coming off an arguably career-best season in 2020, having ranked No. 1 at Richmond for intercepts, No. 2 for marks and rebound-50s and in the top five for one-percenters and metres gained.
Vlastuin was also selected in last season’s 40-man All-Australian squad and the winner of the Maurie Fleming Medal as third in Richmond’s best and fairest.
The 26-year-old said the long-term deal and backing from the football department gave him great confidence.
“It shows huge belief on their part that they trust me to be able to perform for that long, it is a lot of faith, and I obviously want to return it,” he said.
“With the length of the deal, it locks me away now. I do not have to think about that or anything else.
“It means heaps to be a one-club player, and I just love being at the Club. I would not want to be or could not imagine being anywhere else, and this kind of seals that.”
Vlastuin added that playing in big games at the MCG in front of the Tiger Army was a definite factor in his decision to commit to Richmond.
“Playing at the G in front of big crowds gives me goosebumps every time. You never really get used to it,” he said.
“It is a lot of fun, so it was definitely a factor. I could not imagine playing (AFL) and not doing that every second week in front of the Tiger Army. They are stuck with me now.”
The deal will take Vlastuin, who was selected No. 9 overall at the 2012 AFL National Draft, to what would be an impressive 14-years at the Club.
“It is a bit scary actually how quick it has gone. I do feel like I have been here for a while, but when you kind of think about this deal taking me to there (14 years), it is a bit different,” he said.
“It’s always been a fun playing group to be around, and I have enjoyed my time with all the boys.”
Despite reaching the ultimate highs in the past four years at Tigerland with three premierships and another finals appearance, Vlastuin said the hunger to succeed had not diminished ahead of his next five.
“You kind of get addicted to winning,” he said.
“We just want to keep doing what we are doing and enjoying it while we are, and hopefully, that can bring some more success. I am really rapt to continue to be a part of it.”
Vlastuin has played 162 games for Richmond since making his debut in Round 5, 2013 against Fremantle.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/894137/five-years-for-vlastuin
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Amazing. Future captain for sure. Bolton next......
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:birthday :clapping :clapping :clapping
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How long is out for ?.
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Damien Hardwick says Richmond’s gun defender Nick Vlastuin has had a secondary scan on his knee injury and will miss at least another month.
@AFLcomau
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1378226348599042048
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Damn. Needed him today.
Having guys like Pickett and DES in the backline was bad today.
Would rather Houli and Vlastuin any day.
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Dimma post-game talking about on Floss' knee injury:
"The initial scan didn’t show it. Nick wasn’t recovering as well as we would have liked. Our medical staff will speak about it later in the week but he won’t be back at least four-plus weeks."
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Huge loss is Nick.
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Geez a month that is not good news. We miss this bloke heaps already. I wonder if a bigger bodied player like Ralphsmith is now the way to go in Flossys place.
List short comings are already being felt this yr.
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Where’s all those in the media claiming that his injury was all a put on, no honesty left in parts of the media
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Richmond star to have knee surgery
By Jake Niall
April 4, 2021 — 12.27pm
Richmond’s star defender Nick Vlastuin will undergo knee surgery that is set to keep him out for up to six games.
Vlastuin, who hurt the knee in the defending premiers’ first round game against Carlton, will have what a club source described as “clean-up” surgery to the knee.
The surgery is expected to keep Vlastuin out for a minimum of a month, but there is a strong possibility it could be up to six weeks, depending on his recovery.
The Tigers have been hit by injuries in recent days, after opening with almost a clean slate. Key midfielder Dion Prestia is set miss the mandatory three weeks with a hamstring strain suffered in Saturday’s 45-point loss to Sydney, sore skipper Trent Cotchin is doubtful for the clash with Port Adelaide given the six-day break and Kamdyn McIntosh was floored in a collision with Dane Rampe and had to be helped from the field on Saturday.
If McIntosh was concussed – which has not yet been confirmed – he will be automatically ruled out of the Port Adelaide game, which has become more important for both premiership fancies after they were comprehensively beaten by the Swans and West Coast on Saturday.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said after the loss to Sydney that the Tigers had sent Vlastuin in for a second scan of the knee that showed worrisome findings. “Our medical staff will speak about it later in the week but he won’t be back for at least four-plus weeks,” said the coach.
Richmond might regain Bachar Houli, who played three quarters in the VFL practice game on Saturday morning, and will probably call on younger players, such as Jack Ross, to fill the breach while key senior players are absent.
Vlastuin, who turns 27 later this month, recently agreed to a five-year contract extension that will tie him to the Tigers until the end of 2026.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-to-have-knee-surgery-20210404-p57gdw.html
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Where’s all those in the media claiming that his injury was all a put on, no honesty left in parts of the media
Media a not accountable just make it as they go.
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Where’s all those in the media claiming that his injury was all a put on, no honesty left in parts of the media
Media a not accountable just make it as they go.
Actually Kane Cornes of all people mentioned this on Footy Classified last night.
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Vlastuin had surgery on his cartilage on his right knee after he was subbed off against Carlton in round one. He has trained strongly in terms of running over the past week but kicking has been issue. He has complained of soreness when he kicks more than 30 metres. The Tigers said on Monday he still needed to “tick off a couple of boxes”.
The three-time premiership star is a key cog at half-back and will be particularly keen to play this week, for he was knocked out in a chaotic first quarter in the grand final by a Patrick Dangerfield spoil, prompting play to be stopped for nearly eight minutes.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/business-as-usual-for-bolton-as-dusty-returns-to-the-tiger-fold-20210503-p57obo.html)
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Floss on 7news tonight said his knee was feeling really good. He had a big session on Friday before the boys played and pulled up fine from that. So he's going into normal squad training this week and if all goes well he will be playing this week :thumbsup.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1389141402848690178
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
IF ...
Nick Vlastuin's 2020 Grand Final was wrecked when knocked out by Danger and his round one game this year ruined with a knee injury ...
THEN ...
he's at least due to complete a game. Good to see him back for the Friday night game against the Cats.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/608292/if-the-hawks-lose-again-on-the-weekend-and-jeff-is-true-to-himself-then
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Really wish Barrett would rename this little piece. He doesn't get what a sliding door moment really is. This is more Barrett's musings
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Good to see him back but Our whole defence didn’t have their best night.
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He looked under done. Shame he was going in while Grimes was dropping out
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He looked under done. Shame he was going in while Grimes was dropping out
Sure was one off his worst games. Probably needed a run before coming back into the side but with Grimes going down they rushed him back. Hopefully he returns to his previous best soon.
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Nick Vlastuin (11/6/21)
3 time Richmond Premiership player joined Gilly & Goss to talk footy, cricket, travel and playing the Eagles this weekend:
Listen here: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=838990
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Looking for positives.
Floss' best game since he's come back from injury. Kept Darling quiet despite being undersized and was back to his intercepting best in defence.
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Meh...thought he was poor fur the most part...bar Houli, the entire backline had a shocker IMO... :shh
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Apart from that howler in the last, the kick in straight to an Eagle
I though he was our best tonight
3 really good qtrs and ok in the past. When most in the last were pathetic
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Apart from that howler in the last, the kick in straight to an Eagle
I though he was our best tonight
3 really good qtrs and ok in the past. When most in the last were pathetic
A howler there that's for sure. Agree he was in our top 3 apart from that.
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Meh...thought he was poor fur the most part...bar Houli, the entire backline had a shocker IMO... :shh
You :shh must :shh be :shh joking :shh
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Did a great job on Darling. would not want to see him punching out of his weight division all the time because someone will get a hold of him.
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Meh...thought he was poor fur the most part...bar Houli, the entire backline had a shocker IMO... :shh
You :shh must :shh be :shh joking :shh
Good to see you defending one of our own instead of an oppo player or coach for a change...:shh
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Backs:
Nick Vlastuin showed great endeavour in a disappointing performance from the Tigers; he was a shining light for them in defence.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/06/28/the-afl-all-mvp-starting-18-round-15/
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Dimma said post-game that Floss copped another knock to the same spot where his corky wise.
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Nick Vlastuin can hold his head high.
Make captain.
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Great to see Floss is back :thumbsup. Help sure us up behind the ball with his intercept ability.
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Floss is such a gun! Showed again tonight how much we miss his presence in our backline and his ability to read of the play and intercept.
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Floss is such a gun! Showed again tonight how much we miss his presence in our backline and his ability to read of the play and intercept.
Yep, kept us in the game in the first half
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MAKE HIM CAPTAIN!
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Great to have @nickvlastuin back last night.
Team-high 14 marks + one intercept mask (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f637.png)(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f605.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/players/VlastuinMaskDrink.png) (https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1424202833956507649)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1424202833956507649
:laugh:
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Vlastuin is in doubt to face Carlton in their season-opener, having hurt his hamstring “with his last kick” in the clash against Geelong last weekend.
Vlastuin said that he was fighting to be fit in time to take on the Blues, coming as the Tigers seek amends for last season’s flame-out.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/stringer-pain-free-and-primed-for-round-one-but-vlastuin-in-doubt-20220302-p5a0zb.html
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Injuries piling up!
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Floss will be touch and go. Round 1 being on a Thursday night will be just under 3 weeks since he did his hammy. As I said in the training thread, he was running pretty well today. So it doesn't look too bad a hammy. Touchwood he's okay by the time we run out against the Blues but if there's any doubt I'd rather give him another week to make sure he is 100%. No point risking him only for him to redo it and we lose him for the whole first month of the season.
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No need to risk him if we are a real contender then covering Vlastuin, Rioli, Lambert and Graham should not be too big a deal.
Hmm sonsie to play high fwd for Lambert kid has shown some good signs. RC-D for Graham Ralphsmith for Rioli and Mansell for Vlastuin
Backline for me would go
Mansell - Miller - Grimes
Broad - Tarrant - Stack
Ralphsmith wing and as stated Sonsie high fwd.
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Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin will miss the early rounds of the home and away season as he continues to recover from a hamstring injury.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick confirmed Vlastuin won't feature in Thursday's clash with Carlton and may miss the 10-day turnaround for his side's Round 2 bout with Greater Western Sydney on Sunday, March 27.
Vlastuin suffered tightness in his hamstring during the Tigers' practice match against Geelong last month and has since required treatment ahead of Richmond's season opener.
"Nick had a bit of a setback so he'll probably miss a couple of early rounds, which is a little bit disappointing, because it's such an important player," Hardwick said on Tuesday.
"We want to make sure when he comes back he's right to go.
"It's been a little bit of a challenging injury that we've had a little bit of difficulty with, but he will respond hopefully well and be back in the early rounds."
https://www.zerohanger.com/tiger-ruled-out-of-opening-rounds-ruckman-in-isolation-115064/
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Floss just did some walking around the boundary today. If he's redone his hammy then he'll miss at least a month you would think. We might not see him until late April/early May :-\.
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Burgess poo rehab skills strike again. Send Burgess packing and get Rob Inness back please
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Burgess poo rehab skills strike again. Send Burgess packing and get Rob Inness back please
You mean Peter Burge ?
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An indictment on most of his soft and skill-less teammates tonight that an underdone Floss was one of our best after missing the first month of the season.
21 disposals (15k, 6h, 9c, 10u, 81% eff.)
9 marks (1 contested)
2 tackles
3 inside 50s
10 intercepts
499 metres gained (second most)
5 score involvements
1 goal assist
87% time on ground.
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Solid return.....though he ain't no substitute for a KPD.....not that it was his fault... :shh
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Vlastuin had 21 disposals, a team-high seven rebound-50s. team-high 10 intercepts, five score involvements, 499 metres gained and took an equal game-high nine marks.
“I was a little bit nervous before the game, just kicking and all that, but it felt really good,” Vlastuin told Richmond Media in a post-match interview.
“Thought I ran alright, thought I went alright, and had more connection with “Funky” (Ben Miller), “Taz” (Robbie Tarrant) and Hugo (Ralphsmith).
“Haven’t played a lot of footy with them, so it’s good to have them out there.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1106294/vlastuin-returns-in-strong-style
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One of the small but ongoing travesties in @AFL: that Nick Vlastuin has not made the All Australian 22. Who would want to play against him (clearly no one from the dismal @WestCoastEagles). #AFLEaglesTigers
https://twitter.com/JakeNiallTHEAGE/status/1520006942760239106
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It will go down as a crime that Floss was continually overlooked for AA across our premiership years.
Last night he was again huge for us. 20 disposals, 9 marks and 10 intercepts. I had him as our most important player on the night as we fed off his intercepts. That's why he had 5 score involvements too. Our defence is so much stronger and reliable when Floss is playing at or near his best.
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MRO has fined Floss.
Charge laid:
Nick Vlastuin, Richmond, has been charged with Rough Conduct (Dangerous Tackle) against Todd Marshall, Port Adelaide, during the second quarter of the Round 13 match between Richmond and Port Adelaide played at the MCG on Thursday, June 9 2022.
In summary, the player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Careless Conduct, Low Impact, High Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/777146/match-review-star-tiger-charged-with-dangerous-tackle
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The amount of money the AFL rakes in from these fines must be ridiculous. Would be interested to see how much they bank each season and what they actually do with it.
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The amount of money the AFL rakes in from these fines must be ridiculous. Would be interested to see how much they bank each season and what they actually do with it.
Probably paying themselves cash bonuses the pricks
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How the hell did Floss get fined for this tackle? :facepalm
https://twitter.com/CKane80/status/1535243236914376706
Once again the MRO goes after us despite no one getting hurt, no one from the opposition remonstrated and no free kick being paid :huh3 ::).
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But Covid is the reason people are not going to the games :wallywink
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Could it be coming from Dan Richardson , is he still bitter about being moved on
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Could it be coming from Dan Richardson , is he still bitter about being moved on
I reckon it comes from Brad Scott - Richo is too soft to tell Scotty too Floggy to pee off
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Should challenge this. No sling action and didn't really 'drive' his head into the ground.
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Dimma on AFL360 talking about Floss:
Nick is one of the players you love to have in your side. You've got to admire those players that continually put their body in a position to win the ball back. Those possession game interceptors are very valuable and Floss is one them and one of the best in the land at our footy club. What has really been impressive this year is Floss' leadership has gone to another level. He was the type of guy who came in and played the game a certain way where his leadership was the way he plays. His off-field leadership has really improved. Hence why he is part of that greater leadership group at our club. He's become an important player to us and still loves his surfing and still lives down Geelong way in Torquay. He loves his time away from footy but he is still heavily invested and that's why was love him.
Vlastuin's impact on the Tigers in 2022:
Since he returned from injury in round 5.
Average Rank in the AFL
Intercept possessions 9.3 #2
Intercept marks 3.0 #7
On Thursday night, we scored 24 points directly from Vlastuin's intercept marks.
Source: On the Couch (Fox Footy).
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ALL-AUSTRALIAN SELECTOR HEAPS PRAISE ON RICHMOND STAR
By Alex Zaia
SEN
15 June 2022
All-Australian selector Gerard Healy has heaped praise on Nick Vlastuin’s 2022 season so far.
The Richmond premiership defender was named in the All-Australian squad of 40 in 2020 – his one and only nomination – but didn’t make the final 22.
Vlastuin, a three-time premiership player, has been a key cog in Richmond’s defence for several seasons alongside co-captain Dylan Grimes.
Healy is surprised Vlastuin hasn’t received more recognition from All-Australian selectors in previous years.
The 28-year-old has been restricted to just 18 games over the past two seasons - 12 last year and six so far in 2022 - due to knee and hamstring injuries.
“Since Round 5, he’s the second-best intercept marker in the competition. He’s number six for marks,” Healy told Sportsday.
“He is so good in that department.
“I’m surprised they haven’t pushed him up for All-Australian.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/14/all-australian-selector-heaps-praise-on-richmond-star/
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So far this season, Vlastuin is averaging 22.2 disposals, 7.9 marks, 6.4 rebound-50s, 9.4 intercepts, 3.5 score involvements and 444.8 metres gained per match.
He is ranked No. 1 in the competition for intercepts per game and No. 6 for marks per game.
Vlastuin was a key factor in Richmond’s victory over Carlton at the MCG last Thursday night, with 24 disposals, five marks, seven rebound-50s, a team-high 10 intercepts and 428 metres gained.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1153025/first-class-vlastuin
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Nick Vlastuin Pushing for All-Australian in 2022? (SEN audio)
Click on pic/link:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RTHWXRSwXVI/mqdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTHWXRSwXVI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTHWXRSwXVI
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Having some year.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVvObRXWIAI1BwY?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1539050680283017216
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Love you vlas but sometimes it’s ok to just to just kill the ball instead of go for the intercept mark. Can’t believe he let jack henry of all people take a contested mark against him to win the game.
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Seemed to misread the drop of that last ball that Henry marked.
Unlike him and disappointing.
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Played an absolute shocker today. Was amazed at how poor he was. Goes to show even the very best spud it up at times…
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Played an absolute shocker today. Was amazed at how poor he was. Goes to show even the very best spud it up at times…
Yep he had a game he'd want to forget
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Has been up and down all year.
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Played an absolute shocker today. Was amazed at how poor he was. Goes to show even the very best spud it up at times…
Yet still not the worst out there.
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They had him in the best in the match report
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Nick Vlastuin, Richmond, has been charged with Striking Connor West, West Coast Eagles, during the fourth quarter of the Round 16 match between Richmond and the West Coast Eagles played at the MCG on Sunday, July 3 2022.
In summary, the player can accept a one-match suspension with an early plea.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct, Low Impact, High Contact. The incident was classified as a one-match sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/793970/match-review-tiger-hit-with-ban-hawk-cops-suspension-for-bump
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Nick Vlastuin, Richmond, has been charged with Striking Connor West, West Coast Eagles, during the fourth quarter of the Round 16 match between Richmond and the West Coast Eagles played at the MCG on Sunday, July 3 2022.
In summary, the player can accept a one-match suspension with an early plea.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct, Low Impact, High Contact. The incident was classified as a one-match sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/793970/match-review-tiger-hit-with-ban-hawk-cops-suspension-for-bump
Coulda sworn he didn't hit him in the head. Stomach maybe? How is that high?
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Here's the vision of incident:
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1543851037668569088
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Stupid act by Floss given the game was well and truly over.
By the way, how did Jones' off the ground bump that got Pickett in the head not even get looked at? :huh ::)
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We should appeal but we won't.
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farkin dumb
Do we actually want to play finals??
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Not his best game. It was so unnecessary.
Stupid stupid stupid. :banghead :banghead
Why? :help
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Not his best game. It was so unnecessary.
Stupid stupid stupid. :banghead :banghead
Why? :help
Seems to be a regular gut puncher. Time to stop :shh
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Dimma said he's spoken to Tim Livingstone tonight and we're likely to challenge it.
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Enjoy your week off and while you're at it think about stopping this dumb crap. Letting the team down giving away blatant frees/50's when the game is in hand, dying minutes, costing us valuable % and making yourself unavailable for a decent danger game next week.
Stupid stupid stupid.
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Caps of a pretty ordinary game for Nick . It was during junk time too
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Dimma said he's spoken to Tim Livingstone tonight and we're likely to challenge it.
Take the week and instead of challenging get into Nick's ear and tell him this crap needs to stop.
He's supposed to be leader :banghead
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Dare i say it ? nope that will open too big a can of worms.
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Complete brain fart by Nick. Seems to have at least one of these every year.
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Star Tiger’s strike ‘unnecessary’ but challenge looms after ban handed down
Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
July 4th, 2022 9:16 pm
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick admits defender Nick Vlastuin crossed a “fine line” striking opponent Connor West, but the club will challenge the one-match ban handed down.
Vlastuin was cited by the Match Review on Monday for his actions against the Eagles’ mid late in the fourth quarter.
Cameras behind the goalposts captured Vlastuin lash out with his left elbow, as West drops to his knees.
Speaking on AFL360 on Monday night, Hardwick said the club would assess where the contact on West was and take their case to the tribunal.
“I was on the phone before to (Tigers’ general manager of football performance) Tim Livingstone, and we think we will (challenge),” he said.
“It’s probably just looking at where the contact was … we’ll go through that but ideally we’ll probably challenge that tomorrow.”
The Match Review assessed the 28-year-old’s contact as high, intentional and of low impact.
Hardwick admitted Vlastuin was “disappointed” in his actions, while stating the club did not condone the behaviour.
“It’s not the sort of action we’re overly happy with,” he said.
“Nick’s disappointed, the game was over. There was no need to do it.
“It’s just unnecessary from our point of view.
“Nick knows that – players know after the fact. They live a fine line.
“(Players) are competitive, they are combative and sometimes they step over the line.”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW0ZcuIUsAAH4Cc?format=jpg&name=small)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/star-tigers-strike-unnecessary-but-challenge-looms-after-ban-handed-down/news-story/3ea9f9825a1f3204a83ab0c9e5dd58c0
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Is there any front on footage that shows the punch to the gut? Not denying he’s done it but if the only vision is from behind the goals I don’t see how they’ve made their decision.
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No punch to the gut. It looks like he tried to hit him in the shoulder and it slipped up to clip his head.
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Nick Vlastuin will miss Saturday's clash with Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium, accepting a one-match suspension for striking.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1544143973207650304
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Nick has about a gazillion runs on the board
Enjoy the week off and do something fun Nick.
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Jack on AFL360 last night said Floss told him that he hit the shoulder of Connor West. West also said he was hit in the shoulder.
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Jack on AFL360 last night said Floss told him that he hit the shoulder of Connor West. West also said he was hit in the shoulder.
If so then why would he accept the suspension?
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Jack on AFL360 last night said Floss told him that he hit the shoulder of Connor West. West also said he was hit in the shoulder.
If so then why would he accept the suspension?
I'm presuming the contact was shoulder first before slipping higher into the head. Doing it off the ball means he was a goner. It was a dumb selfish act by a senior player who should know better.
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I would drop him to make a statement. Poor year by a quality player.
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Thought he was OK
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Any updates on how Floss is? Didn't look good. Seemed to have broken ribs :-\.
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Any updates on how Floss is? Didn't look good. Seemed to have broken ribs :-\.
I feel like if there was any concern of broken ribs then he’d be straight off to hospital with an injury like that?
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According to dimma as presser he will most likely miss next week.
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Richmond interceptor Nick Vlastuin could miss next week's must-win clash against Hawthorn with rib damage.
The tough defender was the victim of a Charlie Dixon knee to the side in a marking contest, and was subbed out of the Tigers' 38-point win, but did not need to go to hospital and watched the remainder of the game from the bench.
"He's probably doubtful, we suspect he has some form of rib damage," coach Damien Hardwick said.
"But once we know, you'll know. I'd say he's incredibly doubtful for next week."
Source: AFL website[/url. (https://www.afl.com.au/news/814102/-every-game-is-an-elimination-final-for-tigers-star-defender-in-doubt)
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Just watching the reply and honestly Dixon should be reported for that. Didn't get anywhere near touching the ball and clearly jumped knee first into Vlastuins ribs causing injury.
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Just watching the reply and honestly Dixon should be reported for that. Didn't get anywhere near touching the ball and clearly jumped knee first into Vlastuins ribs causing injury.
And he looked first before jumping into him
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Just watching the reply and honestly Dixon should be reported for that. Didn't get anywhere near touching the ball and clearly jumped knee first into Vlastuins ribs causing injury.
And he looked first before jumping into him
And he's got away with it.
Going by last night's MRO statement it would appear it wasn't even looked at
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Just watching the reply and honestly Dixon should be reported for that. Didn't get anywhere near touching the ball and clearly jumped knee first into Vlastuins ribs causing injury.
Yeah what a surprise Salty Karen Cornes didn't point that one out yesterday!
Absolutely should have been reported. It was a deliberate knee and had no intention of trying to mark the ball
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Hopefully the lack of news is a good sign, but I’m not sure.
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I could be way off the mark but I don’t think it would be anything more than a short term injury. I think with rib related injuries they wouldn’t have let him fly back with the rest of the team.
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Casualty Ward
Catherine Healey and NCA Newswire
Fox Sports
August 8th, 2022 7:46 pm
RICHMOND are waiting on the results of scans on defender Nick Vlastuin after he was subbed out of the win over Port Adelaide.
Vlastuin sustained rib damage in a collision with Charlie Dixon, with Richmond coach Damien Hardwick conceding it is unlikely the important defender will be fit to take on the Hawks on Sunday.
He could also be in doubt to face Essendon in Round 23.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/disastrous-development-for-veteran-swan-luckless-saint-touchandgo-casualty-ward/news-story/e59a9c85fdb6ca92b9d0c538e478f684
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Floss listed as "questionable" for this week. Touchwood that means no broken ribs and he will only miss the one game :pray.
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Be handy to play in Gunston or Bruest
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I don't think we'll risk him this week. Give him the week off for his body to fully recover.
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I don't think we'll risk him this week. Give him the week off for his body to fully recover.
Exactly
Not worth the risk
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Nick Vlastuin is about to achieve what no other Richmond player has since before World War 2.
The triple Tiger premiership star defender will play in an eighth finals series within the first 10 years of his AFL career.
That’s something even Richmond royalty such as Kevin Bartlett, Francis Bourke, Royce Hart, Dick Clay and Michael Green could not manage throughout their time at Tigerland.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1206318/vlastuin-s-fine-finals-record
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When is this bloke going to be rewarded with an all Australian?
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Has missed 25-50% of the season in each of the last 3 years. Only injuries keeping him out.
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Has had an interrupted season with injury but we really need him to step up these finals. Need his intercept marking especially against the talls from Brisbane.
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He’s a Tiger immortal already but 2022 hasn’t been his best year. Made some bad mistakes in our back 50, given away some silly frees and needlessly suspended when we could least afford it. Is absolutely critical in that back 50 Thursday night, some intercept marks and pin point kicks to trampoline the ball back from our D50 will go a long way to us winning….
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Looking for positives. I thought Floss was one of our best across the night. While his teammates were fumbling and sloppy, he was mostly clean and assured. Saved a few goals too with his desperate spoils and 11 intercepts. The best goal saving play was against Neale in the 3rd qtr.
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Mitch Robinson got a smaller fine for his late hit on Sonsie than what Vlastuin copped ::) :huh3.
Offending player
Nick Vlastuin #1
Richmond
Reportable offence
Tripping
(Second Offence)
Victim player
Lincoln McCarthy #11
Brisbane Lions
Quarter
Second Quarter
Grading
Careless Conduct
Low Impact
Body Contact
Sanction
$5000
Early plea
$3000
https://www.afl.com.au/news/834064/match-review-lions-pair-charged-with-rough-conduct
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1. Nick Vlastuin
Awesome in defence. Had the match-up early on Eric Hipwood but rotated through a few Tigers forwards and got free as much as possible. Was the No.1 intercept player on the ground. Pulled off a terrific spoil in the third term that led to a Richmond forward foray and Tom Lynch goal. Marked the ball strongly and was efficient by foot.
Foxsports rating: 8
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-finals-2022-richmond-tigers-vs-brisbane-lions-second-elimination-final-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/7fc45960b9d79ca09461c1ff3de0ff76
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Nick's set his sights on new heights.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1630831206517600256
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Not much being said this year about Vlastuin. He has fallen off a cliff. Horribly out of any type of form and his kicking is woeful
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If we want to get back into the first round.....
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If we want to get back into the first round.....
I would consider this but it will never happen.
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Horribly out of form like so many
Would suggest he is probably our most out of form
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Agree WP. A shadow of himself. Double fists, fumbling, can’t kick properly and making stupid decision.
I don’t think he’s touched a footy since last season.
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Horribly out of form like so many
Would suggest he is probably our most out of form
Yep.
The one I am most worried about.
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Agree .. I must admit I have been concerned with his form for quite some time now . Whenever I see Nick give away dumb frees I know he’s in for a shocker
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Crazy idea (?) but when Broad returns, is it worth trying this bloke as a medium size forward? He used to read the ball well, has strong hands and would make a few defenders nervous. Otherwise I think, at just 28, he might be finished.
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Hasn’t been the same since Dangerfield knocked his head off in the GF.
Either that or not getting the captaincy has effected him.
Or maybe he’s just dropped his standards like most others weighed down by 3 heavy premiership medals.
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Crazy idea (?) but when Broad returns, is it worth trying this bloke as a medium size forward? He used to read the ball well, has strong hands and would make a few defenders nervous. Otherwise I think, at just 28, he might be finished.
Wtf how often do we have to keep on ignoring the genuine fwds we have to allow a mid or defender a game.That is whats killing us.
No natural fwds getting a game and too mids and other types being played thru there.
Just pick some natural fwds and give em a damn good go at it.
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Terrible again.
I think his might be the biggest drop in his usual quality out of all our senior players.
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Got to change something with him. Try something new.
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Got to change something with him. Try something new.
Agreed, I'd try him as a high half forward with broad coming back. Not permanently, just to try and get his hands on the footy a bit and get the confidence up for a move back.
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Blind Freddy can see his struggling should have been moved couple games ago freshen him up.
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There is a pulse. Thought he showed some form.
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There is a pulse. Thought he showed some form.
Agreed was better but still he made some howlers.
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There is a pulse. Thought he showed some form.
Agreed was better but still he made some howlers.
I would give him a spell this week. Something is just not right with him so far this year. His decision making is way off!
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He was good. Looked a lot like the old Nick. Was due for a decent performance...well overdue
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Looked better no doubt with his mate Broad back
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Milestone No.1 this weekend.
Floss plays his 200th on Saturday night.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwO5gDLacAU2RLg?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1658382526833106944
2013 18 games
2014 20
2015 23
2016 19
2017 16 ......... premiership
2018 21
2019 24 ......... premiership
2020 20 ......... premiership (albeit knockout by Dangerfield in the first 5 minutes of the Granny).
2021 12
2022 17
2023 10*
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Total 200* games
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/N/Nick_Vlastuin.html
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"It really is pretty special playing at this Club." (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f49b.svg)
(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f4f9.svg) @nickvlastuin reflects on the journey so far ahead of his 200th game this weekend.
WATCH: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1658403665810452484
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Congrats flossy!!! Fearless vic metro leader. One of my favourite games of his was when he somehow ended up forward and kicked 3 goals I think it was against the saints? Forever a Richmond man and criminally underrated during our dynasty period. Actually the disrespect he got is probably what helped us win 3x flags.
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Yup was against the saints. I was there that day, think it was 2018 or 2019?
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Congrats Floss :clapping
And well done on fighting through a form slump. His 1st part of the season he was struggling. Since the GC game he's been back to Vlastuin of old
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Yup was against the saints. I was there that day, think it was 2018 or 2019?
The move won us the game
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Consistent & courageous for over a decade (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/2b50.svg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FweCtWRaAAYsxjk?format=png&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1659440062071996419
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Damien Hardwick lauds Tigers' AFL milestone men
Shayne Hope
AAP
May 20, 2023
If it was Damien Hardwick's biggest blunder of the week, then he's having a decent run.
But the Richmond coach admits he erred in playing Shai Bolton's extensive highlights reel for his players before showing them the far less flashy Nick Vlastuin tape.
The video session is a mid-week ritual at Punt Rd before milestone matches.
Bolton (100 games) and Vlastuin (200) are set to reach significant marks in the Tigers' clash with Essendon on Saturday night.
"I made the unfortunate mistake of showing Shai Bolton's highlights first and then going into Nick Vlastuin," Hardwick said with a smile.
"That's unfair on Nick. He's a wonderful player and both have just been incredible for our footy club."
Vlastuin's value to the Tigers is not measured through highlights like high marks, flashy goals and mazy runs.
Instead, the humble and tough triple-premiership defender embodies one of the mantras held in highest regard at Richmond.
"What we love about Nick is how he plays," Hardwick said.
"He's 'simple brilliance' to a tee and every coach and every team would be hoping they have a Nick Vlastuin or Shai Bolton in their side every week."
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-lauds-tigers-afl-milestone-men-c-10708665
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Floss in his 200th last night:
22 disposals (17k, 5h, 6c, 14u, 77.3% eff.)
11 marks (2 contested marks)
2 tackles
3 inside 50s
412 metres gained
8 intercepts
1 score involvement
89% time on ground
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Floss playing according to 7news.
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Floss back in and back to his best form. 26 possies at 92%, 12 marks and 9 intercepts last night :clapping.
26 disposals (20k, 6h, 5c, 19u, 92.3% eff.)
12 marks
2 tackles
2 clearances
1 inside 50
384 metres gained
9 intercepts
5 score involvements
1 goal assist
81% time on ground
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Was great
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Thrilled to see him back to his sensational best
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Never underestimate how important this bloke is
Was horribly out of form at the start of the season but has fought back and is back to his best
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Never underestimate how important this bloke is
Was horribly out of form at the start of the season but has fought back and is back to his best
IIRC he has never been named all Australian??
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Getting better and better with each game. What an amazing game
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Getting better and better with each game. What an amazing game
Cotch was good but I think Vlas was bog tonight.
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Horrible form at the start of the season well and truly in his rear view mirror now. Back to the vlas we know and love.
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Welcome back Floss been unreal. Has been much better with Broad back and can play his natural role.
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Floss had 11 intercepts and took 9 marks last night.
23 disposals (18k, 5h, 4c, 16u, 69.6% eff.)
9 marks
2 tackles
466 metres gained
11 intercepts
3 score involvements
1 goal
87% time on ground
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BOG for me
His 3rd qtr was amazing
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What no one is talking about: Vlastuin has rediscovered his best
Andrew Slevison
SEN
19 June 2023
Premiership defender Nick Vlastuin’s form had dipped around a month ago.
His regular output had dropped off and he had been making a few more errors than we’ve been used to.
In the one-point loss to Essendon in Round 10, Vlastuin showed that his form was starting to turn with 22 touches, 11 marks and five rebound 50s.
Unfortunately he copped a corky in that game which kept him out for two weeks, but since his return he has been superb in back-to-back wins over Fremantle and the Saints.
He was one of Richmond’s best few in the Dockers win where he had 26 disposals, 12 marks and seven rebound 50s.
On Saturday night, he was again in the top few Richmond players with an assured showing of 23 touches, nine marks and six rebound 50s in slippery conditions.
Vlastuin is so vital to the way Richmond plays with his ability to read the ball and intercept at will. His upturn in form is a massive boost for their finals hopes.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/19/overreactions-positives-negatives-and-undroppables-for-all-18-afl-teams-in-14/
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In his last four games, Vlastuin is averaging 22.7 disposals, 10.0 marks, 3.0 tackles, 6.0 rebound-50s, 9.0 intercepts, 3.3 score involvements, 5.6 contested possessions, 3.5 one-percenters and 411.9 metres gained.
Vlastuin is again showcasing the elite marking and intercept ability, kicking skill, composure, courage and toughness that makes him one of the competition’s very best defenders.
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1371209/vlastuin-in-excellent-nick
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No Vlastuin and it would have been well over 100 points. Agree with others struggled early this year to the point where he should have been dropped but has been excellent the last 4 or 5 weeks culminating in a superb effort against Brisbane.Shame a few of his team mates could not take a leaf out of his book.
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If he wasn’t such a damn good defender and so important intercepting the ball back there, could fill in as a fwd. great contested mark and beautiful kick.
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If he wasn’t such a damn good defender and so important intercepting the ball back there, could fill in as a fwd. great contested mark and beautiful kick.
If Banks come on nicely...late career change?
Otherwise Ross isn't a bad mark + shot tbh
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If he wasn’t such a damn good defender and so important intercepting the ball back there, could fill in as a fwd. great contested mark and beautiful kick.
If Banks come on nicely...late career change?
Otherwise Ross isn't a bad mark + shot tbh
Think Tom Brown is the vlas clone. Medium-tall defender with a good mark and kick on him.
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Quirky stat of the day:
Last 10 games when Flossy kicks a goal, dating back to 2016.
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
Win
https://twitter.com/_tigertime/status/1677999164045807616
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'We lost our way in that last quarter' - Vlastuin
WATCH HERE: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1392019/-we-lost-our-way-in-that-last-quarter-vlastuin
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'We lost our way in that last quarter' - Vlastuin
WATCH HERE: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1392019/-we-lost-our-way-in-that-last-quarter-vlastuin
Your defensive group never found their way to begin with.
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ROAR: Riding the waves
Richmond Defender Nick Vlastuin has a love for surfing, a way to take his mind off football in his second home, Torquay.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/01/22/e821141c-8c6c-494e-8a17-549d991156fb/udx1cIqI.jpg?width=1240) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1482521/roar-riding-the-waves)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1482521/roar-riding-the-waves
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Nick Vlastuin concedes Richmond doctors were extra cautious with his latest concussion diagnosis.
The triple premiership defender trying his hand in the water this weekend as he prepares to welcome back a big-name teammate. @cleary_mitch #7NEWS
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1754051303544963419
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Vintage Vlastuin
Nick Vlaustin was back to his very best in the season opener.
Yes, he got plenty of opportunity as the ball was pumped inside Gold Coast’s 50 no less than 61 times, but he did stand up to the attacking onslaught fairly well.
He finished with a game-high 12 intercepts, an equal game-high nine marks to go along wth 20 disposals (18 kicks) in what was a vintage Vlastuin performance.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/11/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-each-clubs-wins-and-woes-from-opening-round/).
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Best on again.... :clapping
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Easily
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B+F fav
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Should have been made captain.
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Should have been made captain.
He didn't want it, said it a while back he doesn't want to be captain
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He has literally never said that and has never been offered it anyway
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Nick was amazing
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Huge last night.
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Vlastuin again was excellent right throughout the match for the Tigers. He finished with 24 disposals, nine contested possessions, six marks, a game-high 11 intercepts, seven rebound-50s, four score involvements, six tackles and 495 metres gained.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/03/17/eeddeb32-2c91-4db6-94e3-bc38efddebe5/01CaRi24MW03804-1-.jpg?width=708&height=1062)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1509330/in-the-nick-of-time
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Vlastuin again was excellent right throughout the match for the Tigers. He finished with 24 disposals, nine contested possessions, six marks, a game-high 11 intercepts, seven rebound-50s, four score involvements, six tackles and 495 metres gained.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/03/17/eeddeb32-2c91-4db6-94e3-bc38efddebe5/01CaRi24MW03804-1-.jpg?width=708&height=1062)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1509330/in-the-nick-of-time
Should have been AA in previous years.
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Vlastuin again was excellent right throughout the match for the Tigers. He finished with 24 disposals, nine contested possessions, six marks, a game-high 11 intercepts, seven rebound-50s, four score involvements, six tackles and 495 metres gained.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/03/17/eeddeb32-2c91-4db6-94e3-bc38efddebe5/01CaRi24MW03804-1-.jpg?width=708&height=1062)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1509330/in-the-nick-of-time
Should have been AA in previous years.
100%
Thread on BF about this vs Stewart who has 5 despite Vlastuin being more successful and statistically more effective.
Robbed.
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Flossy issues in past seasons has been lack of consistency. Not saying he should or shouldn’t be AA which is as compromised and ridiculous an award as the Brownlow but I would personally like to see the gap between his best and worse games narrow a little.
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Flossy issues in past seasons has been lack of consistency. Not saying he should or shouldn’t be AA which is as compromised and ridiculous an award as the Brownlow but I would personally like to see the gap between his best and worse games narrow a little.
He was inconsistent when we sucked in '21 and '23 but other than that I think he's been very consistent myself
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i think he has been absolutely fantastic myself. He was underdone or injured one those years for a bit wasnt he?
does it matter? not for me.
Gun.
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i think he has been absolutely fantastic myself. He was underdone or injured one those years for a bit wasnt he?
does it matter? not for me.
Gun.
I would have his children if he'd let me. Red hair and all.
Men can have babies now just so y'all know.
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i think he has been absolutely fantastic myself. He was underdone or injured one those years for a bit wasnt he?
does it matter? not for me.
Gun.
I would have his children if he'd let me. Red hair and all.
Men can have babies now just so y'all know.
:lol
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i think he has been absolutely fantastic myself. He was underdone or injured one those years for a bit wasnt he?
does it matter? not for me.
Gun.
I would have his children if he'd let me. Red hair and all.
Men can have babies now just so y'all know.
:lol
:lol :lol :lol
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Richmond star Nick Vlastuin on new reality and fresh coach at Tigerland
There was plenty of frustration for Nick Vlastuin as Richmond began to slide down the ladder. The star back discusses Adem Yze, bouncing back and why the 0-2 start wasn’t that bad.
Josh Barnes
HeraldSun
March 24, 2024
At first it was just frustration.
His side was beginning to slide down the mountain and Nick Vlastuin was looking for anyone to blame.
A star defender through Richmond’s triple-flag dynasty, Vlastuin was looking around at a defensive unit filled with players he didn’t really know and his once invincible team was suddenly very beatable.
Such is the life of a footballer in a team that was once at the pinnacle and is now looking up at the main contenders.
“Early days, it was a lot of frustration,” he said.
“Nothing is working, you feel like everything is against you, umpires, crowd, AFL, you blame people who aren’t even on the field.
“Early days it was a lot of frustration because you just expect it to still be like, we were good last year, why aren’t we good again?”
Now things have changed at Richmond.
After 13 seasons at the helm, Damien Hardwick suns himself on the Gold Coast and no Tiger had played for the club under a different full-time senior coach until Adem Yze’s first outing in opening round.
Vlastuin’s once herculean backline from those premiership days is being slowly dismantled.
After so many years playing with the same defenders, it was frustrating, too, to line up with others.
“You just expected it to feel the same and be the same but you are looking around and thinking, oh right, we don’t have Dave Astbury and Alex Rance, we have Tylar Young who has only been playing footy for eight years and is a soccer convert, we had Josh Gibcus, who was an 18-year-old key back,” Vlastuin said.
“It does change a lot. Early days I would get frustrated. It’s not the same, it’s not feeling the same. But I suppose there has been enough change now that it is a different team now, I have different expectations and I need to help differently.
“Not that we can’t rely on them (the new defenders) but I am not used to exactly how they play and how I play, so we don’t complement each other as much.”
Winless reigning premier Collingwood may begin to start feeling the pinch soon – it doesn’t take long for a team to lose its unbeatable aura.
And that can seep quickly into the players feeling a lot more vulnerable than when they were at the top of the tree.
“If you don’t get the results, it is harder to just make confidence,” Vlastuin said.
“(In) 2019, 2020, even if we were down by six goals we just thought we had the confidence that two weeks ago we were like this but we still got the win.
“Now maybe the results aren’t coming so you are wondering what is going to happen. So it’s more wondering than confidence, that might impact the way you play as well I suppose.”
It may have taken some time to adjust but Vlastuin eventually dropped the frustration in favour of getting better.
While he has started the season in vintage form – scooping up a league-high average of 11.5 intercept possessions through the opening two weeks – Vlastuin has turned his attention into helping his younger teammates.
“At the moment I am trying to help a lot of other people as well,” he said.
“Trying to grow the younger boys. I always cop a lot of s**t from the boys for playing as the spare (defender) but I am trying to help the boys learn that.”
NOT ALL THAT BAD
A five-point loss to premiership contenders Carlton last week came after Richmond copped three injuries in the first half.
But that didn’t stop some chatter in the AFL industry that the Tigers should blow it up and start playing the kids.
It doesn’t look so bad to Vlastuin.
“I don’t think we have started that bad. We had a bad quarter-and-a-half against Gold Coast where they kicked 10 goals and apart from that we were probably the better team in the second half,” he said.
“Carlton (in round 1), we had three go down early so I didn’t have a rotation after quarter-time and we were playing against two Coleman medallists with our two key backs on the bench.
“I don’t think we are going as bad as some people say. It is two rounds in, so we will see.”
With a new coach and a 0-2 start came new expectations outside of Punt Road and things changed inside too.
Gone is the big meeting one day a week, as new boss Yze spreads them out.
There were some grumbles about changes brought by the new coach in summer.
“Over pre-season we would do something different and a few of the older boys would be like, ‘f*** this, why are we doing this?’,” Vlastuin said.
“Then it was like, wait, wait, let’s give it some time. We might do it for three weeks and find out we like it, just because we have done it for 10 years this other way under ‘Dimma’ (Hardwick).
“It was about not picking the holes in all the change to what we have always done and try and embrace it.
“I am enjoying it a bit more, a few more meetings but they are spread out over the week.”
Following the legend is never easy and Yze has walked into a tough task replacing Hardwick.
He won the players over by quipping that he was desperate for his first win after the narrow loss to the Blues.
It took Hardwick nine losses before his first victor back in 2010 and Yze is trying to dodge that monkey on Sunday at the MCG when the Tigers host the Power.
“You just want to get that monkey off your back, otherwise it becomes a thing and the media might jump onto it,” Vlastuin said.
“He has been good, it doesn’t seem like he is under pressure because he isn’t.”
Nick Vlastuin on...
Adem Yze being 0-2 as coach: “He has been fine, he has still been up and about. After the (Carlton) game, he did say to us ‘f*** boys, I want my first win’.”
Not winning All-Australian selection: “Maybe early days I cared a little bit more but now it is kind of like, I would rather win another flag than have an All-Australian blazer. Last year I was probably rooting for Daniel (Rioli) a lot more, I thought he had a ripper year.”
The footy media: “It’s impossible not to see it because we are in it every day but I don’t watch any of the shows. I do watch Front Bar because they take the *smile*.”
https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-richmond-star-nick-vlastuin-on-new-reality-and-fresh-coach-at-tigerland/news-story/2248e7f7e9df780afc623b94108d7098?amp&nk=3396dc50874750f6d7a1fd41f3628ce1-1711241463
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15 intercepts for Floss today. Also 100% perfect disposal efficiency. Massive game in defence :bow :clapping.
29 disposals (23k, 6h, 7c, 17u, 100% eff.)
13 marks
2 tackles
3 inside 50s
15 intercepts
584 metres gained
7 score involvements
94% time on ground
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He’s a player the rest of the league doesn’t appreciate enough
SUPERSTAR
What an underrated gun he is
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Champ. :cheers
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Was massive today
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He’s a player the rest of the league doesn’t appreciate enough
SUPERSTAR
What an underrated gun he is
:clapping :clapping
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RFC team dynamo, all Australian
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But all the focus will be on Tommy Fln Stewart’s game tomorrow
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Jack Dyer. House on it.
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Just about BOG for me, and don't worry oppo fans can see it.
Few of the Carlton fans we're looking for the Flossy shop the other week.
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I love this bloke and everything about how he plays and has played.
Would have been a perfect captain.
Bog.
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Living proof the AA is a load of shyte..... :shh
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Do we entertain at this point in our rebuild shopping Vlas for a top 10 pick? Don't tell me he's not worth it.
An Essendon, Adelaide, Saints, Dogs even GC and Dimma give their first pick for a Vlas to go from making up the 8 to possibly making an impact on to 4-6. He's 30 in a few weeks.
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Do we entertain at this point in our rebuild shopping Vlas for a top 10 pick? Don't tell me he's not worth it.
An Essendon, Adelaide, Saints, Dogs even GC and Dimma give their first pick for a Vlas to go from making up the 8 to possibly making an impact on to 4-6. He's 30 in a few weeks.
I'm actually saying no. Not blokes like that.
Guys like Bolton sure. But not your Vlastuins.
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Played like James Hird in his prime today .
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Do we entertain at this point in our rebuild shopping Vlas for a top 10 pick? Don't tell me he's not worth it.
An Essendon, Adelaide, Saints, Dogs even GC and Dimma give their first pick for a Vlas to go from making up the 8 to possibly making an impact on to 4-6. He's 30 in a few weeks.
I love floss
But -
1- we wouldn’t get a top ten pick at his age
2- if it was on offer it’s a no brainer
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Champion Data's Daniel Hoyne believes Nick Vlastuin deserves way more credit than he gets.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1775371567008272698
Across the past 7 years:
* 25th best player in the AFL (Tom Stewart is 50-55)
* 4th most intercepts
* 4th more intercept marks
* 2nd most points scored generated from his intercepts.
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Champion Data's Daniel Hoyne believes Nick Vlastuin deserves way more credit than he gets.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1775371567008272698
Across the past 7 years:
* 25th best player in the AFL (Tom Stewart is 50-55)
* 4th most intercepts
* 4th more intercept marks
* 2nd most points scored generated from his intercepts.
His lack of recognition is disgusting.
I hope he doesn't GAF and knows how much we love him.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKSDBNsaQAEn95H?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1775688216647196902
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Living proof the AA is a load of shyte..... :shh
Spot on. Tom Stewart built a career standing in space waiting for the ball to come to him. Midfielders putting pressure on oppo make him what he is.
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IS CRUCIAL INTERCEPTOR THE LATEST TIGER IN MRO STRIFE?
After premiership teammate Liam Baker was slapped with a one-game ban by the MRO for a hit on Sydney’s Lewis Melican, Nick Vlastuin could be the next Tiger under scrutiny from Michael Christian.
The heralded intercept defender was penalised for a dangerous tackle on former teammate Dan Butler in the third quarter on Sunday.
Vlastuin appeared to sling St Kilda’s Butler after he disposed of the ball, bringing him to the turf and causing the forward’s head to make contact with the ground.
Butler was able to play out the remainder of the contest, but the ‘potential to cause injury’ MRO clause could place the veteran flag-winner in strife.
Christian will assess all Sunday incidents and release any subsequent verdicts on Monday.
VISION: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1776865371812700659
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Living proof the AA is a load of shyte..... :shh
Spot on. Tom Stewart built a career standing in space waiting for the ball to come to him. Midfielders putting pressure on oppo make him what he is.
Same can be said for his predecessor Matthew Scarlett in the 2nd half of his career :whistle :shh
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The only sanction from Sunday's games was Richmond's Nick Vlastuin receiving a $3750 fine, which can be reduced to $2500 with an early plea, for rough conduct on St Kilda's Dan Butler.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1104938/match-review-tiger-nick-vlastuin-fined-gws-captain-toby-greene-in-the-clear
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The only sanction from Sunday's games was Richmond's Nick Vlastuin receiving a $3750 fine, which can be reduced to $2500 with an early plea, for rough conduct on St Kilda's Dan Butler.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1104938/match-review-tiger-nick-vlastuin-fined-gws-captain-toby-greene-in-the-clear
What did he do, wipe his backside when he found himself backing into a back by mistake?
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2024 Total Intercepts League Leaders
1.Vlastuin 55
2.Stewart 54
3.Taylor 46
4.B. McKay 44
5.Sicily 44
https://twitter.com/_tigertime/status/1780927422151684521
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It was Floss' 30th birthday today btw :birthday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLa_lMGbYAAtDYt?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1781096369513701574