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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on February 20, 2013, 03:29:57 PM
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Strong squad!
RICHMOND
1. Chris Newman, 3. Brett Deledio, 4. Dustin Martin, 5. Brandon Ellis, 6. Shaun Grigg, 7. Matt Dea, 8. Jack Riewoldt, 9. Trent Cotchin, 10. Shane Edwards, 11. Jake Batchelor, 12. David Astbury, 13. Ricky Petterd, 14. Bachar Houli, 15. Chris Knights, 16. Luke McGuane, 18. Alex Rance, 20. Ivan Maric, 21. Shane Tuck, 23. Daniel Jackson, 24. Ben Griffiths, 26. Robin Nahas, 27. Aaron Edwards, 29. Ty Vickery, 30. Reece Conca, 31. Nick Vlastuin, 35. Matt White, 36. Matt McDonough, 37. Orren Stephenson, 38. Steven Morris, 39. Tom Derickx, 43. Todd Elton, 44. Matthew Arnot, 45. Brett O'Hanlon, 49. Steven Verrier
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So missing are:
Grimes
Chaplin
King
Helbig
McIntosh
McBean
Foley
Lonergan
Williams
Darrou
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what happened to helbiggy?
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I'm curious to see how Derickx goes, not excited for him but you'd say Nab cup will pretty much his last chance because he shouldn't get many if any games during the season
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North and the Dees' respective squads ....
NORTH MELBOURNE
1. Daniel Currie, 2. Brad McKenzie, 3. Ryan Bastinac, 4. Liam Anthony, 5. Ben Jacobs, 6. Lachlan Hansen, 7. Jack Ziebell, 8. Daniel Wells, 9. Andrew Swallow, 10. Ben Cunnington, 11. Michael Firrito, 12. Lindsay Thomas, 14. Jordan Gysberts, 15. Luke Delaney, 16. Scott Thompson, 17. Nathan Grima, 18. Shaun Atley, 19. Sam Wright, 20. Drew Petrie, 22. Todd Goldstein, 23. Kieran Harper, 24. Levi Greenwood, 25. Robbie Tarrant, 28. Will Sierakowski, 29. Brent Harvey, 30. Tom Curran, 31. Cameron Delaney, 34. Jamie Macmillan, 35. Aaron Black, 38. Majak Daw, 41. Aaron Mullett, 42. Scott McMahon, 43. Sam Gibson, 46. Ben Speight
MELBOURNE
1. Jesse Hogan, 2. Nathan Jones, 4. Jack Watts, 5. Jimmy Toumpas, 6. Chris Dawes, 7. Jack Viney, 8. James Frawley, 10. Shannon Byrnes, 12. Colin Sylvia, 13. Jordie McKenzie, 14. Lynden Dunn, 15. David Rodan, 17. Sam Blease, 19. James Strauss, 20. Colin Garland, 21. Cameron Pedersen, 22. James Magner, 25. Tom McDonald, 26. Daniel Nicholson, 27. Tom Gillies, 28. Joel Macdonald, 30. James Sellar, 31. Jack Grimes, 32. Michael Evans, 34. Dean Kent, 36 Aaron Davey, 38. Jeremy Howe, 39. Neville Jetta, 40. Mark Jamar, 42. Jake Spencer, 45. Matt Jones, 46. Dean Terlich, 47. Tom Couch, 48. Jack Fitzpatrick
http://www.afl.com.au/news/teams
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I dont really want to see derickx...that dropped mark still haunts me
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Preview: Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Thursday, February 21, 2013
WHERE AND WHEN
Etihad Stadium, Friday, February 22, 6.45pm AEDT
THE MISSING
Melbourne: Captain Jack Trengove and key forward Mitch Clark are both recovering from foot injuries and won't be available, along with utility Rohan Bail (concussion) and ruckman Max Gawn (knee).
North Melbourne: Forward Leigh Adams, who is recovering from post-season shoulder surgeries, is the only notable omission in a strong line-up. He remains on track to play at some stage in the NAB Cup.
Richmond: Nathan Foley (Achilles tendon), Dylan Grimes (hamstring) and Sam Lonergan (ankle) will be sidelined, while Jake King is another significant absentee for the Tigers.
LAST YEAR
Melbourne: The Demons beat the Brisbane Lions but were shown up by Gold Coast in their NAB Cup openers last year. They went on to beat Collingwood in round two, but lost all momentum on the eve of the season with Hawthorn and then Port Adelaide handing Mark Neeld's team heavy defeats.
North Melbourne: The Kangaroos beat Richmond by three points and suffered a 25-point loss to Hawthorn in their opening matches last year. They travelled to Sydney in round two and fell 17 points short of the Swans in round two before wins against the Western Bulldogs and Carlton.
Richmond: The Tigers beat Hawthorn but lost to North Melbourne in round one last season, suffering a heavy defeat against Fremantle in round two. An impressive 59-point win against Geelong in round two was followed by a 74-point win over Greater Western Sydney.
WHAT THEY SAY
Melbourne: "We've got to put this [tanking affair] behind us and that's part of our rationale with this, is that we need clear air. Our guys and our new football department, our new players, our squad needs to be able to go out on Friday and create some of our own history." – president Don McLardy
North Melbourne: "You want to play your best footy against other oppositions, and it’s not like an intra-club where you’re not going into packs. Hopefully we have a good hit out. There’s going to be a few tired boys out there. No matter how much running you do in the pre-season, you always seem to blow up in the first 10 minutes." – Robbie Tarrant
Richmond: "It’s still pretty daunting when you come into your first proper AFL game, but the NAB Cup is a good experience. You get a feel for who you’re playing with, your teammates . . . it’s good." – forward Brett O'Hanlon
WE SAY
Melbourne: Given this week's events and the cloud hovering over Melbourne the entire pre-season, on-field action should come as a relief. In Jack Viney, Jimmy Toumpas and Jesse Hogan, there will be plenty of young talent on show to boost the Demons faithful.
North Melbourne: The Kangaroos look set to play a strong side from the outset and pre-season momentum could be valuable in a year in which the Roos expect strong improvement from its young list. Port Adelaide recruit Ben Jacobs will be one to watch in his first game with his new club.
Richmond: All eyes will be on the Tigers' off-season recruits in Chris Knights, Troy Chaplin and Aaron Edwards. The list has been topped up and fans will expect to see an outfit ready to break the club's finals drought
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-21/tripleheader-preview
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$32 for a reserved seat, starting to get pricey no? :o
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$32 for a reserved seat, starting to get pricey no? :o
Outrageous. They used to give em away and they still should, it's a massive missed opportunity by the AFL. Free entry to the NAB games would benefit all parties imv.
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I suppose its the only game ill go to in the preseason and it was a reserved seat. The childs ticket was $9 which wasnt bad. But if we were a struggling family with 3 kids it would cost around $90 odd to get in and have dec3nt seats etc. I understand general is cheaper but it appears the option for some folk is almost been removed which I think is sad.
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I think it's an opportunity for the clubs to tap into their cultural/sub-cultural/regional groups that they have been targeting ie; the Indian community. Give free tickets out at the big bash games, you could tap into people from all backgrounds. Send a couple of players out to Craigieburn and make sure every single student in the town gets a free ticket to the game. Send the cheer squads and members in for free to provide them with a taste of the tiger atmosphere that we are hopefully going to create this year. Get the newcomers hooked on it.
Of course if there is a demand for reserved seating like yourself EEA, then why not for a modest fee, to help offset the minimal cost of staging the game.
$32 is a joke and would scare people off before the season has even started.
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Money grabbing exercise for what is a practice match at best.
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has anyone got the timetable of all games.
Hopefully ours is first so i can go in and watch the first game
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has anyone got the timetable of all games.
Hopefully ours is first so i can go in and watch the first game
We're playing in the 2nd and 3rd matches daniel.
6.45pm Melb vs North
7.50pm Rich vs Melb
8.55pm Rich vs North
TV broadcast on Fox Footy starts at 6.30pm AEST.
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/304762606550388736/photo/1
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With Richmond and North both expected to beat Melbourne that makes the evening's third game between the Tigers and the Roos the most important game of the night - with the winner of that match to give themselves a big chance of reaching this year's NAB Cup grand final.
The past three home-and-away meetings between the two teams have all been decided by 13 points or less - with North winning two - and the Kangaroos are again the favourites at around the $1.70 mark while the Tigers are paying $2.05 at sportsbet.com.au and better value of $2.10 at Betfair and Centrebet.
Full article at: http://www.sportal.com.au/bz-opinion-display/tigers,-roos-poised-for-dee-molition-223008
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Even though its only some 20/20 nab cup style game. I'm looking forward to seeing the Tigers back playing some footy.
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Anyone know if it's on radio, streaming??
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Anyone know if it's on radio, streaming??
It's on 3aw, MMM and SEN. So WAT you should be able to listen to the games tonight via their websites.
You are also meant to be able to listen live at the AFL match centre: http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-cup/2013/1/nmfc-v-melb
and on the official AFL app: http://afl.com.au/mobile
Those not in Australian or NZ can also check out for a live tv stream: http://afltv.afl.com.au/
For anyone in the Middle East it's also on OSN.
http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio
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Anyone know if it's on radio, streaming??
It's on 3aw, MMM and SEN. So WAT you should be able to listen to the games tonight via their websites.
You are also meant to be able to listen live at the AFL match centre: http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-cup/2013/1/nmfc-v-melb
and on the official AFL app: http://afl.com.au/mobile
Those not in Australian or NZ can also check out for a live tv stream: http://afltv.afl.com.au/
For anyone in the Middle East it's also on OSN.
http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio
Your unreal OE.. :lol....cheers mate!!
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I can see one game each being won by the three
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Anyone know if it's on radio, streaming??
It's on 3aw, MMM and SEN. So WAT you should be able to listen to the games tonight via their websites.
You are also meant to be able to listen live at the AFL match centre: http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-cup/2013/1/nmfc-v-melb
and on the official AFL app: http://afl.com.au/mobile
Those not in Australian or NZ can also check out for a live tv stream: http://afltv.afl.com.au/
For anyone in the Middle East it's also on OSN.
http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio
Your unreal OE.. :lol....cheers mate!!
The diversity of modern technology with its many options can be a pain ;D.
I'm heading off to the game now. Car'n the Tiges! :gotigers
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GO YOU TIGERS!!!!!!!!! :gotigers
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Live stream for those of us in Aus without fox? :angel:
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is sen streaming?
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Geez,Jesse Hogan looks impressive.Already past Watts
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Lol Dawes. Looks even worse than when he had a midfield delivering on a silver platter. :lol
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inb4nortwinsbothgames
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inb4nortwinsbothgames
inb4melbournewin1game
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Is Nahas on the back flank? I don't think he can win much footy but some nice kicking and line breaking early.
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Jack looks crap ::)
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Goal kicking going to be an issue again this year lol
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Vickers looking strong. Lifting his arms above his head is a start :cheers
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Lol poor Morris
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Conca!
HOULI! :gotigers
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Bruise free football
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Jackson best for melbourne.
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not bruise free anymore...jack goes off with a cut head
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Score?
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Score?
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-cup/2013/1/melb-v-rich
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Score?
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-cup/2013/1/melb-v-rich
Internet very very slow over here..... :thumbsup
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Melb 0.2.2-14 - 1.2.9-30 Tigers
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Cop that Dunn. Shat himself when Vickery flattened him.
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Melb 0.2.2-14 - 1.2.9-30 Tigers
Cheers mate
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Good to see Vickers show some agro!
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Good to see Vickers show some agro!
Needs to use it in his attack on the ball!
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North kicked the first point and then a goal from the rebound, since then we've woken up, Riewoldt got a free and 50m penalty to goal, behind to White and Titch just goaled after a good tackle by Vickery to turn the ball over.
1.1-7 NM - 2.1-13 Tiges
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TV point.
Tiges 2.2-14 to 1.1-7 NM
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Sounds like a better game than the last one.
Petrie point.
14 - 8
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Some nice work by Knights, sharp kick inside 50 to O'Hanlon who kicks a point.
2.3-15 - 1.2-8
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Thanks JVT
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Goal to Majak Daw, apparently a nice one . . . web cut out so don't know why.
Down the other end, smart work by Riewoldt who dishes off to Titch who kicks his second goal.
3.3-21 Tiges 2.2-14 NM
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They're praising the work of Vlastuin as well, keeps winning the hard balls . . . . just went in again.
Vlastuin to Knights who dishes Martin, to Lids, back to Martin who crisply hits Riewoldt on the lead . . . Jack goes back and . . . goals. Play of the night they say.
4.3-27 Rich - 2.2-14 n0rt
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Sounds like a shoot out....how is Ellis going?
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Quick response by n0rt, Thomas gets goal side of Morris and runs into an open goal after Harper wins the clearance.
27-20
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I know its early but Vlastuin is giving me a stiffy.
I like what I've seen already even though its only rnd 1 in the nob cup.
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Sounds like a shoot out....how is Ellis going?
Quieter than the first game, 4 touches so far.
Harvey goals for n0rt, 1 point in it.
27-26
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Sounds like a shoot out....how is Ellis going?
Quieter than the first game, 4 touches so far.
Harvey goals for n0rt, 1 point in it.
27-26
Cheers.......must keep going, fitness will be the key..
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Black goals for n0rt, last 3 goals to them and they lead by 5 just befre half time.
27-32
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Vlastuin is playing like a veteran.
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Vlastuin is playing like a veteran.
Excellent ....... ;D
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Goal to Majak Daw, apparently a nice one . . . web cut out so don't know why.
Down the other end, smart work by Riewoldt who dishes off to Titch who kicks his second goal.
3.3-21 Tiges 2.2-14 NM
Stiff armed Morris like a rag doll! Didn't look good for stevie, looked great for majak.
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bit of a size difference between the two though (Majak and Morris).
Great direct footy from the Tiges results in Ellis kicking a long goal. Tigers by 1.
34-33
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Majak looked promising in the first game as well, just seen the highlights.
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Jackson gets a 50m penalty, lines up and, suprise, kicks straight because it's the nob cup and doesn't matter.
40-33
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Titch goes for a 9 pointer, falls short rushed behind.
41-33
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Derickx is finished after this year
He is useless
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Derickx is finished after this year
He is useless
Was finished after that dropped mark against GC :banghead
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What happened?
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What happened?
No idea haha, he actually took a strong mark after I wrote that. Generally is no good though.
Swallow point.
Tiges 41 - 35
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Ellis point.
42-35
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Haha, gee we got to get up....please!
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Dustin Martin hasn't made a wrong decision all night . . . free kick to Ziebell for a high tackle from McGuane 45m out.
He goals.
42-41
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Derickx is finished after this year
He is useless
Was finished after that dropped mark against GC :banghead
Can't judge him on that as bad as it was, but lets be serious he is absolutely crap
Let's see if they learnt anything or will choke
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White misses, Bastinac misses.
43-42
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Another choke
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Black goals for n0rt.
Around a minute to go.
43-48
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Can't choke
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Gee whiz
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Vlastuin 3rd efforts to Edwards who misses.
44-48
Game over.
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I hope we are not in for another mentally challenging year....
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Vlastuin was good
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Nah, no need to worry WAT. They were fresher that game, we had a younger side in that one as well.
Ellis with 9 touches.
Arnot with 8 touches.
O'Hanlon 7 touches.
Vlastuin with 9 touches doesn't speak for his 2nd and 3rd efforts, just keeps going. Should be a ripper.
Chris Knights had 8 touches as well.
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only nob cup but gee wiz when the heat was on the usual suspects - mcguane fumbles in defence then gives Ziebell a headhigh tackle for a gift goal, 1 min later white is 15 out directly in front can handball or kick it, kicks it and misses a sitter.
We should have won this pretty easily, coaching staff weren't fussed with cotch, Lids and martin on the pine for the last 5-10 minutes
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I hope we are not in for another mentally challenging year....
Don't stress WAT, two guns off the field for the last 5 or so minutes. Dimma obviously wanted the young blokes to have a lesson in closing out a game. Oh, and without Ivan we are screwed, Derrickx not up to it, clearances galore for Nort.
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Vlastuin looks the goods.
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Positives: Vlaus', Arnot, Newman, O'Hanlon, Griff, Ellis and Knights
Negatives: McGuane, White, Derryx and Jackson........again
I'm watching you: Vickery
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Very disappointing to lose the 2nd game but IMHO we have Norf covered. They were playing a really strong squad and we had players out and Cotch, Lids and Dusty were all sitting on the pine in the last minutes. We had lots of kids playing. When we had our full compliment we were good. I think we have improved in terms of our effort and awareness (although this went out the window in the last 2 minutes of Norfs game)
I really like Ellis who was excellent today really seems to have improved and Vlastuin was also very good. Has fantastic awareness and will be a good player. Overall it was a very good hit out for us tonight. I was pleased as a supporter but it could have been better had we held on in the second game.
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Loved Ellis, Vlastuin, Newman and Martin.
Dea looked steady might be ready to take the next step
Admit we are screwed without Marric! Just watching Currie, I know it's only one game but he showed more in one game than Derix and Stephenson's career put together! We. Really needed that extra pick within the 50's last year ::)
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only nob cup but gee wiz when the heat was on the usual suspects - mcguane fumbles in defence then gives Ziebell a headhigh tackle for a gift goal, 1 min later white is 15 out directly in front can handball or kick it, kicks it and misses a sitter.
We should have won this pretty easily, coaching staff weren't fussed with cotch, Lids and martin on the pine for the last 5-10 minutes
True, and they both wont be in the side R1
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We are in desperate need of a second ruckman and if we can find another quality midfielder with some decent leadership ability we will be right in the van ;D
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we rested all our guns at the end, no need to worry
for me Ellis was the standout all day vlaus impressive too
happy with what i saw and happy we have sen the end of mguane white jackon
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Agree ramps, i felt we had nought covered.. Without mentioning the usual suspects, over the 2 games i was pretty happy with Ellis, Vlastuin, Conca, Astbury, Knights, Petterd, Vickery.
Ellis looked quicker and sharper and was pretty impressive.
Conca did some really nice things before getting crunched.
Vlastuin looks the goods, sees ball gets ball and showed a touch of class.
Knights had some good clean touches.
Astbury looked lively/quicker than he has in the past, used his smarts and got involved.
Vickery competed well
Was surprised at petterds disposal, was v solid.
Negatives, nothing new, White, McGuane, Xman, Jacko and no Ivan in the ruck = trouble.
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Loved Ellis, Vlastuin, Newman and Martin.
Dea looked steady might be ready to take the next step
Admit we are screwed without Marric! Just watching Currie, I know it's only one game but he showed more in one game than Derix and Stephenson's career put together! We. Really needed that extra pick within the 50's last year ::)
Currie and Hannath were 2 names a few ppl who cop poo on this board mentioned as rucks we should have targeted in the off season. Those posters were ridiculed and told they were dreamin. Currie showed hes going to be pretty handy!
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We are in desperate need of a second ruckman and if we can find another quality midfielder with some decent leadership ability we will be right in the van ;D
That's why Vicks is under the microscope IMO. He really needs to step-up and help Ivan out in the Ruck.
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Forget Vickery
He has no interest in playing in the ruck.
He wants to be Jack
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Loved Ellis, Vlastuin, Newman and Martin.
Dea looked steady might be ready to take the next step
Admit we are screwed without Marric! Just watching Currie, I know it's only one game but he showed more in one game than Derix and Stephenson's career put together! We. Really needed that extra pick within the 50's last year ::)
Currie and Hannath were 2 names a few ppl who cop poo on this board mentioned as rucks we should have targeted in the off season. Those posters were ridiculed and told they were dreamin. Currie showed hes going to be pretty handy!
I had us taking Currie in my phantom draft with our last "live" pick, jury's still out but gee he looks handy!!
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Forget Vickery
He has no interest in playing in the ruck.
He wants to be Jack
He wants to 'ruin' Jack, looking at that stupid shirtfront he gave him.
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Forget Vickery
He has no interest in playing in the ruck.
He wants to be Jack
At the moment I would be trying Griffiths up forward instead of Vickery. Ty needs a rocket he seems in cruise mode at the moment.
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Positives:
The defence stood up well, and we have Grimes and Chaplin to slot in there as well.
Petterd looks more than handy, a solid performance.
Chocco's work with the kids already showing good signs. Arnot good, O'Hanlon good, McDonough promising and Vlaustin very good!
Ellis very good.
Depth
Negatives:
The bombing inside 50, it always seems crowded and chaotic in there. We keep the ball inside our half well, we have to sort out the forward structure a bit better.
Derickx - he won't play much unless Maric, Vickery, Stephenson, McGuane and Tuck are injured :lol He's behind all them at this stage.
The umpires either hate us, or we are too undisciplined.
There were still a lot of players I wanted to see that didn't have a hit out, Helbig, Elton, Williams, Verrier, Lonergan and McIntosh.
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Vlastuin was the big positive for mine, the big negative was the ruck, the Big O is a spud and the Xmen can only go up but sadly never will
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Griff kept Petrie to 0 goals. :shh
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Could only listen to the n0rf game on the radio in the car on the way to the hospital (in-law emergency :banghead all good though! Nothing serious), but all in all really happy with how we went. Vlastuin, Ellis, Conca, Batchy (in the first), noticing the difference when Vickery is back in the rotations etc. called the old man and he said our best blokes were on the bench in the final moments as if to see how the younger guys handle the pressure.
:cheers :gotigers
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thought Petterd also got himself a game in R1 based on tonights efforts.
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thought Petterd also got himself a game in R1 based on tonights efforts.
What positon though? Did look good off half back but after Newmans game tonight I'm convinced that's where he needs play.......
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Black goals for n0rt, last 3 goals to them and they lead by 5 just befre half time.
27-32
Just on that goal, I reckon we were robbed. It came from a spill after Griffiths tackled Petrie who dropped the ball like a hot potato and wasn't pinged.
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
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Was at the game tonight and made a point of watching martin.some of his disposal and ability to spot a free player is truly elite.What i was more interested though was his "engine".I know this is the pre season and players sometimes dont give it their all,but it just seems to me that although this lad has unique skills and abilities ,but an engine is not one of them.He doesnt seem to chase the contest like a cotch or a foley does,or even an ablett and watson.or Lenny hayes...
He will undoubtedly be a very important player for us and i still think he will beocme one of the elite players of the AFL,however it wont be as a midfielder like the above mentioned.he will spend a lot of time up forward where i think he will kick bags of goals .I guess what I'm saying he seems like a game changer rather than someone who will amass loads of possesions
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
Next round?
All teams play 3 rounds.
Round 1 is what we had tonight
Our round 2 is next week against the Bumbers in Wangaratta
Round 3 we play the Hawks in Tassie
Top 2 teams (= most wins after the 3 rounds with best %) play in the NAB Grand Final
Currently, Pies and N0rt sit on top of the NAB cup ladder because they have won both of their games
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
lol Ramps, that's so 2008!! We play through regardless! Most wins + percentage plays off in he GF ;)
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poo hey ;D thanks lads
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We are in desperate need of a second ruckman and if we can find another quality midfielder with some decent leadership ability we will be right in the van ;D
That's why Vicks is under the microscope IMO. He really needs to step-up and help Ivan out in the Ruck.
watched him close tonight and imo was disappointing. also will say again if hes to play chf forget about him playing in the ruck.
imo we are desperately in need of a smart chf.
we need to find a decent replacement in case maric goes down geez how poor were we when he wasnt there.
fumbles mcguane and turnover jackson continue to be exactly the same old same old. white is just poo for a sml player.
thought vlastuin very good batchelor was clean and one touch and had to play out of his division again.
ball movement was good at times griffiths imo did little where it counts. knights looks a clean player but needs to get involved a bit more.
ellis and conca showed they will improve on last yr.
overall was pretty pleased with how they went and they showed some real good system at times for this time of the yr one has to be happy id say.
i still believe griffiths should play forward. thought a edwards did little and i reckon newman should be a permanent part of midfield rotations. mcguane should never ever be allowed to play back what a joke.
would love another steve morris type with better skills.
we are in search of a genuine quality run with mid who can put the clamps on opposition play makers in the mid field
finally i know its nab cup and i normally refuse to go down this path but bloody hell are north the best looked after side in the comp concerning umps. .
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I thought our commitment and tackling we're great.
The issues that concern me 3.9 will win games against Melb not against better sides.
More lost opportunities. Thing is clutch moments in our games fall to blokes who can't make them count.
White and Titch I am talking about you.
All in all I think we will be better than last year and we have more depth from what I saw.
Think in making the 8 will depend on whether we have learnt to have composure deep in games when the game is close.
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Just back from the footy.. Walking in the first thing i noticed, Gee its good to have the footy back.
Was a hard game to gauge i didnt understand half the umpiring calls as there were some baffling decisions. New rules suck
i thought we dominated the 1st game and 3/4 of the 2nd. Vlastuin looks the goods and has probably taken Arnots chances away who was servicable but nothing more. Was really impressed with Petterd thought he did really well.
Tackling was a highlight.
im still wondering how Grigga gets his space. Thought Newman did alright but still coming to terms with his new role as i noticed he drifted into his old role on occasions.
Vickery is a player and its good to see him getting some mongrel into his game. He badly needed it.
Jackson.. what do you say. he may struggle to get a game this year. White the same. Our young blokes are steamrolling past them, which was always going to happen if we improved as a team. which we have.
Am worried for O'Hanlon thought he looked slow.
We have the best midfield going around and Lids, Cotch, Dusty, Tuck and Conca have become a machine and with outsiders like Grigg, Ellis and Bacha we have the makings, nay they are formidable now!
JAck looked like he was having fun and wasnt taking it to serious but he's a star.
It was a practice match i have no doubt about that, we werent there to win but there to give the young blokes a go.
Am looking forward to seeing the replay.
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White will be lucky to play 5 games this year.
Vlaustin will be a star.
Saw improvement in Conca.
Petterd and Knights were reasonable from the recycled boys.
We have an elite midfield.
Need another gun ruckman.
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Can't play all of Houli, Ellis, Petterd & Newman can we?
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Can't play all of Houli, Ellis, Petterd & Newman can we?
Newman and Ellis wii play.
Houli is top 22-27
Petterd is depth
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i think we might be able to.. Newman played wing Ellis played forward and midfield and Petterd played loose down back with Houli running off half back.
Who knows though, probably depends on who we're playing but i doubt it myself.. i have a bad feeling for Newman he seemed to me to be confused with his new role. At times he was out on a wing by himself but probably a little to far from the kicker
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Can't play all of Houli, Ellis, Petterd & Newman can we?
Newman and Ellis wii play.
Houli is top 22-27
Petterd is depth
It will depend on roles but i can see Petterd really putting pressure the selectors to get a game..
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Can't play all of Houli, Ellis, Petterd & Newman can we?
Newman and Ellis wii play.
Houli is top 22-27
Petterd is depth
I don't quite see it like that. Will be interesting.
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I watched the game from the bottom level to get a different perspective from the H&A season and I was most impressed by Houli. He is much better than I thought he was. He just seems to be able to find space and deliver the ball. He rarely was tackled because he twists and turns and throws his opponent off balance enough to give himself time to pinpoint a pass. I always thought he had space because he played unaccountable football, well away from an opponent but I was quietly impressed.
Vlaustin was extremely impressive. Morris with more tricks and skills in imho. Just keeps going and very elusive. Such a level head and nice deliver of the ball too. A real find.
Petterd was also much better than I thought he would be across the half back. Unrushed and clean. Did not panic under pressure and one of his long handballs to a running target was awe inspiring. Could be a real find.
A Edwards was almost invisible. May be a dead eye dick in fount of goal but may struggle to get away from his opponent and take a grab. Hope he steps up to be our third tall.
Elton seemed lost but, to be fair, wasn't used. Derickx is embarrassing - the Big O must be better :pray. White and Jackson don't deserve a game and Nahas was ordinary in the first game imo.
We will beat North this year. We took it right up to them with a very young team and have their midfield covered. The Mullet needs to stay fit this year though or we will under preform. Umpires must have been all in training tonight because they were very ordinary and reactive.
Good to have the footy back though :thumbsup
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As Hawthorn found out last year against us in the final game when they played the 2nd and 3rd matches back to back, it's hard to run out the final game if you've played the middle one. It's no surprise that we beat Melbourne comfortably afresh while North kicked 5 of their 7 goals in the last 5 minutes of each half against us. We clearly started to fatigue in the final game.
We pretty much did as we pleased against Melbourne. Except for some umpire charity ::), the Dees never looked like scoring for most of that game. Newy and Houli totally sliced them open.
North however was more even given we changed to a more inexperienced side. They beat us comfortably in the clearances which can be blamed on not having big Ivan in the ruck and Dimma trying lesser and newer names in the centre.
All up the standard was fairly decent for February and our transition play from defence and through the middle was very good most of the time (when we didn't overuse the handball). Best of all no one got injured :highclap. Vlastuin, Ellis and Petterd will add a fair bit to the side if they keep up that sort of form in the real stuff. Jackson and Nahas will find themselves pushed out and down to Coburg along with McGuane, Whitey and Derickx.
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
lol Ramps, that's so 2008!! We play through regardless! Most wins + percentage plays off in he GF ;)
You do know I havent been part of your conversation :huh
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5 things I learnt
Nick V will be a gun
Vickery needs to play second ruck
Griffiths CHF
Petterd should be elevated
A Edwards/Mcguane/White/Hackson are 4 complete duds that should not play a single game this year
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
lol Ramps, that's so 2008!! We play through regardless! Most wins + percentage plays off in he GF ;)
You do know I havent been part of your conversation :huh
:lol :lol :lol sorry mate, not sure what happened there :rollin
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Do we still have a chance of going through to the next round of this comp? Pretty sure some lucky losers go through? Thinking with a 15 pt win and a 4 pt loss might be enough? Would be nice to go through and play this for another round or 2 rather than the regional grounds.
lol Ramps, that's so 2008!! We play through regardless! Most wins + percentage plays off in he GF ;)
You do know I havent been part of your conversation :huh
:lol :lol :lol sorry mate, not sure what happened there :rollin
I think its called the Cascade effect. ;D
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what does Watts think he is doing growing a beard, he just looks like a girl with facial hair now.
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what does Watts think he is doing growing a beard, he just looks like a girl with facial hair now.
It reminded me of fuzz on a peach. Mmm pretty lady :-*
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5 things I learnt
Nick V will be a gun
Vickery needs to play second ruck
Griffiths CHF
Petterd should be elevated
A Edwards/Mcguane/White/Hackson are 4 complete duds that should not play a single game this year
I thought "the lockup" was going to be the answer to our prayers up forward. 40+ goals. Great foil for Jack. He was going to be a revelation and free up Jack so he wasn't double teamed like in the past. Etc. etc. etc. .....
......well that's what I read on this forum anyway. :whistle
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what does Watts think he is doing growing a beard, he just looks like a girl with facial hair now.
Pick 1 in a draft used on a loose man in defence.... :rollin
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what does Watts think he is doing growing a beard, he just looks like a girl with facial hair now.
Pick 1 in a draft used on a loose man in defence.... :rollin
I heard he's going to be good one day :shh
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Hi to all the groggies and old timers and the young cubs too.
Miss you all.
Cya at the Family day.
Oh Dustin Martin!!!!
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5 things I learnt
Nick V will be a gun
Vickery needs to play second ruck
Griffiths CHF
Petterd should be elevated
A Edwards/Mcguane/White/Hackson are 4 complete duds that should not play a single game this year
I thought "the lockup" was going to be the answer to our prayers up forward. 40+ goals. Great foil for Jack. He was going to be a revelation and free up Jack so he wasn't double teamed like in the past. Etc. etc. etc. .....
......well that's what I read on this forum anyway. :whistle
who said that?
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Just watched the replays and Cotchin, Deledio and Martin were all on the bench when the 2nd half still had 16+ minutes to go on the clock. I didn't notice any of them on the field again after that except for Dusty right near the end so virtually the whole second half of the North game we played without our regular midfield.
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Just watched the replays and Cotchin, Deledio and Martin were all on the bench when the 2nd half still had 16+ minutes to go on the clock. I didn't notice any of them on the field again after that except for Dusty right near the end so virtually the whole second half of the North game we played without our regular midfield.
Just shows we weren't really taking it that seriously. Dimma knows Cotch, Lids and Dusty can play so no point running them into the ground in February with different scoring and rules. The preseason is there to give more game time to the newbies, youngsters and fringe players and see how they stand up against real opposition.
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what does Watts think he is doing growing a beard, he just looks like a girl with facial hair now.
It reminded me of fuzz on a peach. Mmm pretty lady :-*
Was dirty on Morris running too far and giving away the 50 resulting in him kicking a goal. :help
Still good to see him stay off the contest and look for the easy ball being totally unaccountable.
The princess fits right in at Melbourne. Must be shattered Kate is having a baby in July. :lol :rollin :lol
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Highlights from both Melbourne and North games:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-27/richmond-v-melbourne-highlights
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-27/richmond-v-north-highlights