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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 20, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
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Kingy has a possible hammy so could be one forced changed.
Fire away ....
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
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Kingy has a possible hammy so could be one forced changed.
Fire away ....
its a corky
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Out Cotchin. Can't kick or tackle.
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Out Cotchin. Can't kick or tackle.
:clapping
lol, really bad day for everyone... syill venting.... #beware
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Lets get the Vlak in
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
What about Ellis WP?
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ellis was Ok when he came on. He actually probably had more impact than Daisy did for the filth.
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Dont think can use him as the sub again but I thought that this week
I thought he offered little when he came on. Actually Swan's mark in the final qtr against him showed how much work he has in front of him. He looked lost and a pipsqueak when Swan bodied him.
But the coaches love him so....
Ellis will stay in
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ellis was Ok when he came on. He actually probably had more impact than Daisy did for the filth.
Well that's good news then, how was his kicking? Maybe he can start on the ground next week, might need his stamina on the big ground.
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Dont think can use him as the sub again but I thought that this week
I thought he offered little when he came on. Actually Swan's mark in the final qtr against him showed how much work he has in front of him. He looked lost and a pipsqueak when Swan bodied him.
But the coaches love him so....
Ellis will stay in
Cheers, al has another take on it..
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Plenty of spots up for grabs.
OUT: Pettard, Morris, McGuane
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Plenty of spots up for grabs.
OUT: Pettard, Morris, McGuane
and Grigg :thumbsup
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
as for being sub, leppa said that the eagles used gaff repeatedly as a sub and that it kept him fresh for when they started giving him full games after about 2 months when the pace of the game stared to drop off.
They are basically following that model with him to "keep his legs fresh"
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Not sure that knights performance answered whether he is an upgrade on batch, is a poor defender and failed to cash in n a couple of straight forward shots on goal....would just hang onto is spot..petterd let me down, liked his work last 2 games, made a couple of bad blues out there today, think both cost goals
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dreaming if you think Mr magooo will be dropped. Vickery goes way before him, not so much as on talent, but on intensity.
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
Realise that al, just pointing out that kid has a ways to go that's all.
Was disappointed in a couple of his 2nd efforts that may not have shown up on the TV
Just reckon he needs a full game somewhere, he had a big preseason and I am genuinely surprised he's been the sub 3 weeks in a row
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
Realise that al, just pointing out that kid has a ways to go that's all.
Was disappointed in a couple of his 2nd efforts that may not have shown up on the TV
Just reckon he needs a full game somewhere, he had a big preseason and I am genuinely surprised he's been the sub 3 weeks in a row
Frustrating game by all. But how Dimma and the coaching panel, let alone anyone on this forum think that Ellis has anything to offer is beyond me. He is so physically weak it's embarrassing he wears a Tigers jumper. I can honestly say he is pathetic!...... And I hate him :lol
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good for you big tone :clapping
yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
Realise that al, just pointing out that kid has a ways to go that's all.
Was disappointed in a couple of his 2nd efforts that may not have shown up on the TV
Just reckon he needs a full game somewhere, he had a big preseason and I am genuinely surprised he's been the sub 3 weeks in a row
watching on the tV he got involved a number of times in the same play, which showed the sort of running we want to see.
I explained what the thinking is behind him being sub. whether it is right or wrong, who knows, but they seem to think it worked for gaff at WC and are following that model.
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
as for being sub, leppa said that the eagles used gaff repeatedly as a sub and that it kept him fresh for when they started giving him full games after about 2 months when the pace of the game stared to drop off.
They are basically following that model with him to "keep his legs fresh"
Won't develop properly that way. pee off Petterd to the VFA and let Ello play.
Petterd can go do his weird kicking motion in the 2's.
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you dont reckon it worked for gaff? or just that it wont work for ellis?
serious question.
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you dont reckon it worked for gaff? or just that it wont work for ellis?
serious question.
Not sure but young legs need plenty of running in
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can young legs take plenty of running for the whole year, or do they tire and risk injury?
like most i was under opinion that you cant be sub too often or it affects your fitness, but what i heard leppa say today makes some sort of sense, and it seems to have worked for others in the past.
its a long season and we do see young legs tire as the season goes on.
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I dont think it's working with Brandon, Al. Needs to go back to Coburg to regain some touch I reckon. Time for Vlas, Helbig etc. to have a crack.
Maybe Dea in for Morris.
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can young legs take plenty of running for the whole year, or do they tire and risk injury?
like most i was under opinion that you cant be sub too often or it affects your fitness, but what i heard leppa say today makes some sort of sense, and it seems to have worked for others in the past.
its a long season and we do see young legs tire as the season goes on.
Seemed to go ok last year and he played what 21 games?
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he did go through a lean patch in the middle of the year....but he had a few mates.
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FWIW, he had 13 touches in a quarter and a half of footy today. more than 8 players that played a full game and around about that of another half a dozen that played a full game.
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Out Morris suspension.
Vickery today showed that the heart of a shrew beats harder than Tyrones.
Ellis needs game time and today he did a few things that were forgettable.
In Vlaustin
Stephenson get him in for a run and we can rest Ivan fwd or back.
One of Aaron Edwards or Todd Elton
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When will we start calling Ellis "kermit"?
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From the Age:
"Chaplin suffered a knock to the head while Jake King finished with a cork to the glute. Both players will need to be assessed for Friday night's game against Fremantle in Perth."
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Loved Big Tones comments - I hope he has kids that play football at elite level one day.
:lol
Big Vicks looks a bit content just to be getting a game - knows he is in for structure but perhaps deep down not feeling to need to play each game like say a Stevie Morris, like its his last game?
I reckon Ty wouldn't expect to be dropped and its impacting his intensity - probably only by a few percent - but he might need a few games in the 2's to think about.
Or dominate and get his confidence up
Or both.
Either way, he's the one spot that should be up for grabs cause he's not done enough in the 1st month.
Ellis was given more game time today but probably had all of 45 minutes of playing time in the 1st 3 weeks.
Needs full game - in the 1s or 2s.
Dea comes in for Morris is he gets suspended
Helbig for King if he's injured
Vlas for Ellis if they decide to drop him - as sub
Big O comes in for Ty and I hope he can do some of that pack crashing stuff he did against the Bombres in the praccy match - this would be nice for our forward line and Shed, crumbers etc.
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
as for being sub, leppa said that the eagles used gaff repeatedly as a sub and that it kept him fresh for when they started giving him full games after about 2 months when the pace of the game stared to drop off.
They are basically following that model with him to "keep his legs fresh"
Do start making excuses for blokes
When you run out on ground, doesnt matter if you played 4 games or 304 games,
Ellis bascially watched Swann take that mark, no body presuure , nothing, very very poor effort
Use the same theory on Jamie Elliot dodging around Cocthin and Tuck and kicking a goal !!
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
as for being sub, leppa said that the eagles used gaff repeatedly as a sub and that it kept him fresh for when they started giving him full games after about 2 months when the pace of the game stared to drop off.
They are basically following that model with him to "keep his legs fresh"
Do start making excuses for blokes
When you run out on ground, doesnt matter if you played 4 games or 304 games,
Ellis bascially watched Swann take that mark, no body presuure , nothing, very very poor effort
Use the same theory on Jamie Elliot dodging around Cocthin and Tuck and kicking a goal !!
Seen Swan do same thing many times to more seasoned players than Ellis, good to see you back bagging our cubs
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
He's not the only going to be a fun few weeks with the media gullible fools going off
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
Benefit of the doubt there Al but when Jack in the last squared it up for him and he dropped it on his chest when we were 22 points down and had kicked the last 4 either side of Collingwood's run when he saw and heard footsteps was weak as pee.
Kid has been sub last three weeks after he was lucky to be retained after his stinker against Carlton.
Batchelor or Vlaustin should have played yesterday.
Brandon needs to go back to Coburg and find his mojo.
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Batchelor in Petterd out. Chaplin out(injured) King out(injured). In Nahas and Stevenson. Vlas in Ellis out.
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
Benefit of the doubt there Al but when Jack in the last squared it up for him and he dropped it on his chest when we were 22 points down and had kicked the last 4 either side of Collingwood's run when he saw and heard footsteps was weak as pee.
Kid has been sub last three weeks after he was lucky to be retained after his stinker against Carlton.
Batchelor or Vlaustin should have played yesterday.
Brandon needs to go back to Coburg and find his mojo.
Got 13 touches in a quarter and a half. More than many of his team mates did for the entire game. Yeah he made a couple of mistakes but so did Cotch. Do we drop him too?
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
Benefit of the doubt there Al but when Jack in the last squared it up for him and he dropped it on his chest when we were 22 points down and had kicked the last 4 either side of Collingwood's run when he saw and heard footsteps was weak as pee.
Kid has been sub last three weeks after he was lucky to be retained after his stinker against Carlton.
Batchelor or Vlaustin should have played yesterday.
Brandon needs to go back to Coburg and find his mojo.
easily post of the day :thumbsup
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Yellow and black you make a good point.
IMO worse Cotchin's errors and in fact errors from all our leaders were worse than Swan's mark against Ellis.
Example. Cotchin running on the wing had plenty of time to kick with his right instead choose his left. :banghead :banghead
Result OONTF and a turnover.
Just one of many examples where the pressure applied by the pies resulted in turnovers.
Pressure causes turnovers and that's the game
Out: Morris, King, Vickery
In. Vlast, Batch, Nahas
If Chap misses then Griff to replace him.
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yeah, swan outpointed him in a marking contest. what a surprise that a 200 game brownlow medalist outpointed a kid in a marking contest.
as for being sub, leppa said that the eagles used gaff repeatedly as a sub and that it kept him fresh for when they started giving him full games after about 2 months when the pace of the game stared to drop off.
They are basically following that model with him to "keep his legs fresh"
Do start making excuses for blokes
When you run out on ground, doesnt matter if you played 4 games or 304 games,
Ellis bascially watched Swann take that mark, no body presuure , nothing, very very poor effort
Use the same theory on Jamie Elliot dodging around Cocthin and Tuck and kicking a goal !!
silly statement about that it doesn't matter if you play 4 or 304 games...so in your world experience
doesn't come into play and all young guys should be playing like 304 veterans.
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when it comes to hardness at a contest it doesnt matter how many games you have played...you make them earn every touch..thats what ellis and countless others didnt do yesterday
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not an excuse just a fact :banghead
Ellis was horribly outpointed by a stronger, more seasoned campaigner, who happens to be one of the best in the game.
Looking forward to more losses so we can be graced with your upbeat presence sharing, your enlightening pearls of wisdom.
you just love it when we lose so you spread the darkness.
i agree on that contest.
thing is ellis was never going to impact that contest. a 181cm/81 kg midget in a one on one marking contest against a wily 185cm 93kg almost two stone heavier player. there was only ever going to be one outcome.
imo apart from a few things i reckon ellis has done well. really need to give him a full game.
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agree always up against it against Swan
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If Morris suspended bring in Helbig. Apologies meant Stephenson not Stevenson
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Morris - Helbig
Ellis- Vlastuin
Petterd - Batchelor
King? - White
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b/ morris - chaplin - grimes
hb/ dea - rance - vlaustin
c/ deledio - tuck - grigg/houli last chance for one of them to show some defensive qualities.reckon griggs run and spread at subi gets him the gig.
hf/ martin - riewoldt - edwards
f/ mcguane - griffiths - king/nahas reckon pace is needed over there so one of king nahas.
r/ stephenson - cotchin - conca wish foley was fit hed be a must.
int/ maric - helbig - ellis - newman/knights newman is on thin ice.
ins/outs
stephenson for vickery a no brainer.
dea for houli geez some defensive accountability
vlastuin for petterd has to be played
helbig for jackson give helbig a run with role ffs.
griffiths for knights more a structural thing allowing us to play a real tall forward line and the spare ruckman.
nahas for king if hes injured.
5 changes 6 if king doesnt come up wont happen. would be definately 6 if foley was fit.
again its not so much about winning but playing people who may be able to take us to the next level down the track and getting games into them replacing blokes with clear and obvious weaknesses that bite us on the arse every yr.
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Will have to see who only plays partial games for Coburg today. Wouldn't think there would be many changes since we're playing in Perth on Friday.
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Helbig was best for us (Coburg) today. In he comes IMO.
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OUT:Rance-Sick of him not keeping his feet in a contest.
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Out - In:
Morris - Vlastuin
McGuane - A.Edwards
King - Helbig
S.Edwards - Nahas
Vickery - Griffiths
Petterd - White
Team:
Newman, Chaplin, Grimes
Ellis, Rance, Vlastuin
Houli, Deledio, Conca
Knights, Reiwoldt, Martin
Nahas, Griffiths, A.Edwards
Maric, Cotchin, Tuck
I: Jackson, Helbig, Grigg
S: White
Houli is a genuine wingman! Don't play him down back!
Jackson and Helbig to play tagging roles in the midfield and forward!
Rance to play CHB and rebound out of fifty.
Chaplin and Grimes down in the last line of defence!
Enough hiding Griffiths YOU DONKEYS!!! Play him deep forward and kick it long to him and he will out mark anyone!!!
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Vlastuin - Morris(susp)
Nahas - King(inj)
Batchelor - Petterd(2 dropped sitters and for a loose man didnt give us enough drive nor did he give Rance a chop out)
Helbig - Ellis(needs a full game)
would also seriously consider
Big O - Vickery but worried about carrying two out and out ruckmen on a big ground
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
I don't reckon he deserves a suspension on Swan, looked like he jumped to smother turned and Swan kept running into him. Free kick? Everyday of the week. Suspension? No. But it is the MRP.
Oh and Ellis was poor, I thought he was meant to be a good kick? I'm yet to see it.
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I reckon one of petterd/ knights need to be dropped for Batch...im thinking Knights, his defensive game is non existent, who else kept wondering who the heck was on the magpie smalls that swarmed forward...if he s an outside mid, then he needs to hit the scoreboard, he passed a nice one to jack+ 2 points, not enough ...we need to bring in defenders for freo as they have dangerous forwards
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
I don't reckon he deserves a suspension on Swan, looked like he jumped to smother turned and Swan kept running into him. Free kick? Everyday of the week. Suspension? No. But it is the MRP.
Oh and Ellis was poor, I thought he was meant to be a good kick? I'm yet to see it.
I thought he kicked it well into the forward line on one occasion and hit a forward on the chest. It was a lovely pass.
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people wanting 6 or so changes, wont happen.
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Struth talk about over reacting to 1 loss ;D
Out - In:
Morris - Vlastuin
McGuane - A.Edwards
King - Helbig
S.Edwards - Nahas
Vickery - Griffiths
Petterd - White
Shane Edwards has 1 poor game and you want him dropped. He's been on our best 5 every game bar this week
As for Griffiths he isn't being hidden away he's injured, that's why he didnt play for Coburg today
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
I don't reckon he deserves a suspension on Swan, looked like he jumped to smother turned and Swan kept running into him. Free kick? Everyday of the week. Suspension? No. But it is the MRP.
Oh and Ellis was poor, I thought he was meant to be a good kick? I'm yet to see it.
I thought he kicked it well into the forward line on one occasion and hit a forward on the chest. It was a lovely pass.
Yep that was to King early in the last but for me the kid seems to be off at the moment.
That dropped mark on the chest I cannot get our of my mind. It was poor.
The kid needs game time and he needs to go to Coburg whether it happens or not is up to the selection committee. I think he needs to go.
Other possible changes may or may not include.
Aaron Edwards kicked 7 today for Coburg he could be a straight swap for Knights next week.
Nahas for King is a no brainer.
Vlaustin for Morris will be forced.
Would like to see The Big O get a gig possibly for Vickery.
Lets see how many players we take across. When does Coburg play next week?
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Struth talk about over reacting to 1 loss ;D
Out - In:
Morris - Vlastuin
McGuane - A.Edwards
King - Helbig
S.Edwards - Nahas
Vickery - Griffiths
Petterd - White
As for Griffiths he isn't being hidden away he's injured, that's why he didnt play for Coburg today
Whats wrong with Bruce Reid now?
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Coburg play Saturday next week -v- Box Hill at Box hill
Griffiths - ankle nothing serious
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people wanting 6 or so changes, wont happen.
Nor should it RD3. Talk about doomsday prophets!
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Struth talk about over reacting to 1 loss ;D
Out - In:
Morris - Vlastuin
McGuane - A.Edwards
King - Helbig
S.Edwards - Nahas
Vickery - Griffiths
Petterd - White
Shane Edwards has 1 poor game and you want him dropped. He's been on our best 5 every game bar this week
As for Griffiths he isn't being hidden away he's injured, that's why he didnt play for Coburg today
Yep! It will not happen, wishful to say the least.
Edwards has had four poor matches and doesn't impact more than he should!
Just realises that Jake King has had 1 tackle in two matches. He is playing a defensive forward role right???
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Yep Kingy is and going into this round we were in the top 3 in the comp for inside F50 defensive turnovers
So King, Edwards and co. must de doing something right. More to defensive pressure than tackling
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King possession count is always dreadful low.
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Is morris likely to find trouble with that bump? ::)
Which one? There was 2
The one on Swan he'll cop at least 3 weeks IMV it was bad really bad, the other on Elliott will probably get him another week
So he is an out
Alot put their hands up today to be dropped ;D
INS: Vlaustin, The Big O (he'd be more competitive than Ty at this point)
OUTS: Morris, Vickery
I don't reckon he deserves a suspension on Swan, looked like he jumped to smother turned and Swan kept running into him. Free kick? Everyday of the week. Suspension? No. But it is the MRP.
Oh and Ellis was poor, I thought he was meant to be a good kick? I'm yet to see it.
I thought he kicked it well into the forward line on one occasion and hit a forward on the chest. It was a lovely pass.
I must admit when I was typing that I remembered that kick but nothing wrong with a slight over exaggeration to get my point accross ;)
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In other Richmond news, highly-anticipated young gun Nick Vlastuin came on at half time [for Coburg] while Robbie Nahas played from quarter-time.
Both could potentially be in contention for Friday night's clash with Fremantle at Patersons Stadium.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-21/foley-returns-at-coburg
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Out: Morris (susp??), Newman, Ellis
In: Batchelor, Vlastuin, Helbig
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Vickery may need a breather, bring in Azza for this week. He will lead up hard at the footy and he'll convert.
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Out: King, Vickery, Newman
In Helbig, Edwards, Vlastuin
Geez we played poorly Saturday.
Jackson very lucky, had a shocker.
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Vickery may need a breather, bring in Azza for this week. He will lead up hard at the footy and he'll convert.
Who takes ruck duties whilst Maric rests up forward?
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Out - Houli , Petterd ( both omitted ) Morris ( susp )
In - Batchelor , Dea , Foley
Ellis to play a full game. He's been good coming on as the sub. Foley to start as the sub this week
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Foley said he is not ready for 3 weeks or so...
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Foley said he is not ready for 3 weeks or so...
Well he dominated in the magoos in a half of footy so that's good enough for me ;D
Make him the sub
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Out - Grigg, Ellis, Vickery, newman, Morris, Rance, Jackson, S Edwards
In - Rance, Vickery, Newman, Grigg, S Edwards, Jackson, Vlak, Nahas
We need to make a statement with our selections this week
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Out - Grigg, Ellis, Vickery, newman, Morris, Rance, Jackson, S Edwards
In - Rance, Vickery, Newman, Grigg, S Edwards, Jackson, Vlak, Nahas
We need to make a statement with our selections this week
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Out - Grigg, Ellis, Vickery, newman, Morris, Rance, Jackson, S Edwards
In - Rance, Vickery, Newman, Grigg, S Edwards, Jackson, Vlak, Nahas
We need to make a statement with our selections this week
;D
:thatsgold
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Out - Grigg, Ellis, Vickery, newman, Morris, Rance, Jackson, S Edwards
In - Rance, Vickery, Newman, Grigg, S Edwards, Jackson, Vlak, Nahas
We need to make a statement with our selections this week
7 changes Chuckie. :o
I agree with the statement. The execution is way off.
This team pretty much won our first three games.
Two or three changes will suffice.
One is forced in Morris.
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Out: Morris, Petterd.........possibly Ellis
In: Helbig, Batchelor.........possibly Vlaustin
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Foley said he is not ready for 3 weeks or so...
Well he dominated in the magoos in a half of footy so that's good enough for me ;D
Make him the sub
Foley is vital.
His long term well being should be foremost importance.
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Out: Morris, Petterd, Ellis
In: Helbig, Batchelor, Vlaustin
EFA :thumbsup
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Herald-Sun's 'The Barometer'
Tuesday, April 22, 2013
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: After a settled opening to the season, the Tigers’ match committee might have some work to do. Jake King looked very sore when he hobbled off with a leg injury on Saturday while defender Steve Morris is set to sit out a week after being charged by the match review panel. Shane Tuck was subbed off and has had a slow start to the year, while Luke McGuane had no impact and Ricky Petterd might be nervous after a couple of costly fumbles.
ON THE CUSP: Brad Helbig continuing his strong run of form with 27 disposals for Coburg and Aaron Edwards kicked seven goals. Interestingly, Nick Vlastuin was rested for the first quarter and Robbie Nahas for the whole first half – both performed well after taking the field – indicating the coaches might have had Friday’s trip to Perth to play Fremantle in mind. The best news from the game was the successful return of Nathan Foley, who picked up 18 disposals in a half playing his first match since snapping his Achilles tendon in the middle of last year. After the game Foley said he pulled up well but would need a few more runs in the twos before a senior call-up.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: This shapes as a very big week for the Tigers, who need to bounce back from a disappointing showing on the big stage. Richmond couldn’t find a way through Collingwood’s intense full-ground pressure and it won’t get any easier against the Dockers. The Tigers’ record in Perth isn’t good – three wins from their last 16 visits, in fact. Ryan Crowley has gone to Brett Deledio in recent meetings.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-for-selection-at-your-club-for-afl-round-2/story-e6frf9jf-1226610940898
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Out: Morris, Petterd, Ellis
In: Helbig, Batchelor, Vlaustin
EFA :thumbsup
Ellis I would keep.
Dea for king, too
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Out: Morris, Petterd.........possibly Ellis
In: Helbig, Batchelor.........possibly Vlaustin
Agree. Helbig been in good form
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Helbig has to be rewarded the kid deserves a chance.
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We'll shoot ourselves in the foot if Ellis goes out for Helbig
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Bring in the Big O and give Vickery the Big Heavo against Freo.i should become a poet
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Nathan Schmook @AFL_Nathan twitter:
"Hardwick says Morris likely to accept 1-game ban [ed. we have], Vlastuin in selection frame against Freo."
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We'll shoot ourselves in the foot if Ellis goes out for Helbig
No probs. He's out for Vlas.
Petterd is goin out for Helbig.
Cool with you?
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We'll shoot ourselves in the foot if Ellis goes out for Helbig
No probs. He's out for Vlas.
Petterd is goin out for Helbig.
Cool with you?
That sounds fine actually
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Triple M news just said that Chaplin likely to miss due to concussion. Not sure if anyone from the club has said anything or if they're only speculating.
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Dimma today talking up Aaron Edwards and the possibility of playing 4 talls up forward on the larger Subiaco ground.
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Tigers set to make two changes for Freo clash
By Nathan Schmook
12:26pm AEST Tuesday, April 23, 2013
RICHMOND'S prized draft selection Nick Vlastuin is a strong chance to make his debut against Fremantle on Friday night with at least two changes expected for the Tigers' trip to Patersons Stadium.
Vlastuin, the pick No.9 of the 2012 NAB AFL Draft, shapes as a likely replacement for small defender Steven Morris, who has accepted a one-game suspension for engaging in rough conduct against Collingwood's Jamie Elliot.
Coach Damien Hardwick said a second change to the team that lost to Collingwood by 34 points was likely, with key defender Troy Chaplin in doubt after suffering a second concussion in three weeks.
"He's in the mix, there's no doubt he's been in the mix for quite some time," Hardwick said of Vlastuin, who was an emergency against the Magpies.
"He's an impressive individual there's no doubt.
"He's got some areas of his game he still needs to work on, but I think he's a ready AFL player to a degree.
"We think he's a chance to play in the upcoming weeks.
"We've got quite a few players who have put their hand up to play, we've just got to work our way through that at match committee."
Hardwick said small forward Jake King would be available after receiving a knee to the back against Collingwood.
Midfielder Brad Helbig continued his strong form with 27 possession in the VFL, while Robin Nahas (two goals) and Aaron Edwards (seven) were impressive for Coburg.
Hardwick, who said small forward Jake King would be available, said the Tigers would consider bringing in another marking target in attack on the big Perth ground.
"We'll certainly look at Aaron (Edwards) … he's a lead-up forward, so the [WA] ground suits that type of player," he said.
"The forward line is going OK at the moment. Do we look at bringing in a fourth target? Big ground, Subiaco, maybe a chance."
Fremantle is expected to welcome back key defender Luke McPharlin (concussion) following its 42-point loss to Hawthorn, but captain Matthew Pavlich will be unavailable after having Achilles tendon surgery on Monday night.
Hardwick said Fremantle's forward line would be unpredictable without its champion goalkicker, with small forwards Hayden Ballantyne and Michael Walters looming as threats.
"We've got a number of other players we think can nullify Ballantyne, Walters, these types of players who are very impressive," he said.
"(Chris) Mayne is outstanding. Whether they bring in another tall we're not sure.
"The thing about sides that change up their forward structure, they become more unpredictable.
"We'll work our way through that."
Hardwick said Richmond, which is ranked last in the competition for tackles, needed to lift its defensive pressure against Fremantle, which is a frenetic tackling side (ranked No.2 in the competition).
He said the Tigers had trained poorly in the lead-up to last Saturday's clash against Collingwood and their preparation needed to improve ahead of a difficult road trip.
Richmond has lost its last four matches at Patersons Stadium and has a 38 per cent winning record interstate under Hardwick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-23/tigers-cub-to-head-west
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Yep see:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17719.msg363617#new
;D
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No Chappy is a huge worry
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No Chappy is a huge worry
They are missing Pav so evens out. Rather him miss this week than the one after. Hawkins and Podsiadly.
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No Chappy is a huge worry
They are missing Pav so evens out. Rather him miss this week than the one after. Hawkins and Podsiadly.
You mean he might actually have to man up an opponent and beat him? Is that even in his contract?
Coach is having a good old laugh at some folks
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Coach is having a good old laugh at some folks
Funny man that Coach fella
:lol
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Coach went missing when port got a winning streak up against the rabble clubs :shh
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The think Vlaustin is a lock in and Helbig close to a given too. Griffiths maybe recalled with Chaplin out too.
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The think Vlaustin is a lock in and Helbig close to a given too. Griffiths maybe recalled with Chaplin out too.
Not sure about Griffiths didn't play ofr Coburg on Sunday because of an ankle injury
Doubt they'd risk him at Subi
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In the Mix - Round 5
afl.com.au
RICHMOND
Robin Nahas hasn't played since he came on in the fourth quarter as the substitute in round one, but he could be recalled to replace small forward Jake King (hamstring) this week. Nahas was an emergency against Collingwood, along with draftee Nick Vlastuin, who is in the frame for this week's trip to Perth with Steven Morris offered a one-game suspension. Aaron Edwards booted seven goals in the VFL for Coburg, but he could struggle to break into the team with Ty Vickery and Luke McGuane currently the preferred tall support for Jack Riewoldt in attack. Midfielder Brad Helbig continued his impressive form with 27 disposals. - Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-23/in-the-mix-round-five
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
he didn't play for Coburg either. Knees fine, think it's the foot this time
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Did anyone see the condition of subi last week? looks like RS
Hope its in better condition this week and wouldnt be risking anyone with any leg niggles perhaps say Nahas :shh
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
Batchelor.
Rance on elephant man Chris Mayne, Grimes to Ballantyne, Batchelor on Kepler Bradley.
Who goes to Walters?
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In the Mix - Round 5
afl.com.au
RICHMOND
Robin Nahas hasn't played since he came on in the fourth quarter as the substitute in round one, but he could be recalled to replace small forward Jake King (hamstring) this week. Nahas was an emergency against Collingwood, along with draftee Nick Vlastuin, who is in the frame for this week's trip to Perth with Steven Morris offered a one-game suspension. Aaron Edwards booted seven goals in the VFL for Coburg, but he could struggle to break into the team with Ty Vickery and Luke McGuane currently the preferred tall support for Jack Riewoldt in attack. Midfielder Brad Helbig continued his impressive form with 27 disposals. - Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-23/in-the-mix-round-five
Prefer they bring in the Donut
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Coach went missing when port got a winning streak up against the rabble clubs :shh
Change your name to tigs2r011 >:( :lol
Freo by 27.
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batchelor should come in for chappy, no problem...I reckon Edwards is a monty to come in also
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Coach went missing when port got a winning streak up against the rabble clubs :shh
Change your name to tigs2r011 >:( :lol
Freo by 27.
And you call me the troll. GTFO. >:( :lol
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I'd like to see batch for Chaplin and Vlast for Morris. If a player got dropped I'd like to see Vickery for Griffiths, give Vickery a chance to find form and Griffiths a chance FINALLY up forward.
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i doubt you will see grifiths play forward line for richmond unless he plays games there for coburg first.
i even further doubt you will see him replace vickery unless he plays the forward/ruckman role for cobug first.
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I reckon dead set Vlas and Edwards and maybe Batch or Helbig.
Interesting that the big O wasn't mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if Edwards and Vickery played forward with Jack up the ground to open up the forward line..
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
he didn't play for Coburg either. Knees fine, think it's the foot this time
FMD is he ever healthy?
Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
Batchelor.
Rance on elephant man Chris Mayne, Grimes to Ballantyne, Batchelor on Kepler Bradley.
Who goes to Walters?
True, I didn't think about match ups more type for type
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Think this week i would to go in a bit smaller and a team willing to run, fight, tackle and chase. So
Outs- Ellis (weak as pee), Grigg (lazy when we haven't got the footy), Morris (suspend) Chaplin if unavailable
Ins- Dea (can play small or tall) Edwards (need more goal kicking power) Vlastuin (tough and willing to chase) Helbig or Arnot (either will give some grunt)
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Coach is having a good old laugh at some folks
Funny man that Coach fella
:lol
Seriously, WGAF what u think senior
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
he didn't play for Coburg either. Knees fine, think it's the foot this time
FMD is he ever healthy?
Another Francis Jackson KP straw man
Will be delisted with Griffiths at end of year
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Coach is having a good old laugh at some folks
Funny man that Coach fella
:lol
Seriously, WGAF what u think senior
And here I was thinking you wouldn't respond.
:lol
And still a couple of years off being a Senior Citizen
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Astbury? How's his knee? If not, who?
Batchelor.
Rance on elephant man Chris Mayne, Grimes to Ballantyne, Batchelor on Kepler Bradley.
Who goes to Walters?
Agree. Way Hardwick talking it looks like Edwards will get a game.
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Who goes to Walters?
Is the danger man in this game, really good form going in.
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We really needed Morro to play on Walters!
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We really needed Morro to play on Walters!
I like Morris but he still goes to ground way to easily for my liking.
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I like Morris but he still goes to ground way to easily for my liking.
Been thinking that for a while myself but thought i was being overly critical. ;D
I think sometimes he makes that split second decision to go diving after the ball when he needs to stay upright and focus on his opponent, that and he like Rance simply just go to ground at crucial times
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I like Morris but he still goes to ground way to easily for my liking.
Been thinking that for a while myself but thought i was being overly critical. ;D
I think sometimes he makes that split second decision to go diving after the ball when he needs to stay upright and focus on his opponent, that and he like Rance simply just go to ground at crucial times
We are both absolutely correct on this one!!
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Rance just goes to ground too easily. Morris at least is after the ball when he does.
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Ellis weak as pee bit rough.
From what I've seen arnot is not ready.
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Rance reminds me of Shoenmakers
Which reminds me, Cloke kicked 5 on Clangers last week and Clangers was lauded as a hero
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Conca is another forced change. That opens the door for Helbig if Vlastuin is coming in for Morris.
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Ellis weak as pee bit rough.
From what I've seen arnot is not ready.
Ellis would be the most scared AFL player, old or young, I have ever seen. I'm not trying to be a wanker, and I don't take pleasure in saying it but IMO it's true. Hopefully he will change because we need our first draft pick from last year to be a good player going forward.. He has been gifted games since he arrived at the club. Anyway as I said, I hope he can prove me wrong.
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Not the biggest fan but he goes when it's his turn – however, he poos himself in packs and hospital handballs to teammates about to be hit, to his opponents, to player's feet, to nobody
Heath Shaw type
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Morris, Conca and perhaps Chapman out - maybe King as well.
Vlastuin, Helbig, Nahas, batch in?
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Morris, Conca and perhaps Chapman out - maybe King as well.
Vlastuin, Helbig, Nahas, batch in?
Who is Chapman?
:huh
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Chaplin, sorry officer :police:
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Geez, how many bloody changes now??
Out: Morris, Conca, Chaplin,
In: Vlastuin, Edwards, Helbig or Batch
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So many forced changes. All downgrading. I would be happy if Vlaustin and/or Helbig came into the team because they forced their way past another midfielder/small backman but they haven't. Their Coburg form has been good but not better than who they are replacing.
I can't stand Freo either! >:(
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Ellis weak as pee bit rough.
From what I've seen arnot is not ready.
Ellis would be the most scared AFL player, old or young, I have ever seen. I'm not trying to be a wanker, and I don't take pleasure in saying it but IMO it's true. Hopefully he will change because we need our first draft pick from last year to be a good player going forward.. He has been gifted games since he arrived at the club. Anyway as I said, I hope he can prove me wrong.
Didnt you see his spoil against Nick when he came on against the Saints. Showed plenty of courage if you ask me..
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Well Conca is another blow.. I expected Helbig to play Morris' Role, Vlastuin to play Concas.
Batch for Chaplin if he can't play and thats it.
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Well Conca is another blow.. I expected Helbig to play Morris' Role, Vlastuin to play Concas.
Batch for Chaplin if he can't play and thats it.
i would have thought Helbig would play Conca's, he's been playing it for VFL.
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Ellis weak as pee bit rough.
From what I've seen arnot is not ready.
Ellis would be the most scared AFL player, old or young, I have ever seen. I'm not trying to be a wanker, and I don't take pleasure in saying it but IMO it's true. Hopefully he will change because we need our first draft pick from last year to be a good player going forward.. He has been gifted games since he arrived at the club. Anyway as I said, I hope he can prove me wrong.
Didnt you see his spoil against Nick when he came on against the Saints. Showed plenty of courage if you ask me..
I didn't see it but im sure I'll watch that game again a few more times this year and I'll look out for it. As I said, I really don't take pleasure in saying what I said and I hope he can turn it around.
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so most likely 4 forced changes.
inj king - conca - chaplin, rubbed out morris.
like for like replacements would be.
king - nahas
conca - vlastuin.
chaplin - griffiths you dont replace 195cm/100kg defenders with 188/87kg mediums in batchelor. keep the structure ffs.
morris - helbig
would be looking at at least 2 other changes
petterd - dea or batchelor.
vickery - stephenson. would be giving ivan a lot more time forward and giving orren a decent go in the ruck.
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so most likely 4 forced changes.
inj king - conca - chaplin, rubbed out morris.
like for like replacements would be.
king - nahas
conca - vlastuin.
chaplin - griffiths you dont replace 195cm/100kg defenders with 188/87kg mediums in batchelor. keep the structure ffs.
morris - helbig
would be looking at at least 2 other changes
petterd - dea or batchelor.
vickery - stephenson. would be giving ivan a lot more time forward and giving orren a decent go in the ruck.
Approve of this :thumbsup has to be like for like or whats point. Creates a ripple effect in our structure
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Cant see Helbig playing on Ballantyne he's a hard at it midfielder not a back pocket.
Batch to come in. Freo doesnt have a tall forward line so i wouldnt bring in Griff
Mayne, Walters and Ballantyne are the goal kickers with Kepler floating in as well.. Thats a very small structure apart from Kepler. They will aim to scrum goals with their midfielders.
So who takes who, my thoughts are Kepler - Rance, Grimes - Mayne, Walters - Batch, Ballantyne ?? maybe Newman or Petterd but i'd bring in Matty White to tag him..
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wtf is going on with conca?
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wtf is going on with conca?
stress reaction in his foot. Out for 4-6 weeks.
Chaplin out as well this week according to the Herald-Sun. So that's now 3 forced changes.
Steven Morris will miss Friday night's clash against Fremantle through suspension while defender Troy Chaplin has not recovered from concussion.
Their absence is likely to open the door for Nick Vlastuin, Richmond's top pick at last year's draft, to make his AFL debut.
Robin Nahas and former Kangaroo Aaron Edwards are also chances to play the Dockers.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-lose-midfielder-reece-conca-for-a-month/story-fndv8t7m-1226628883381
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so most likely 4 forced changes.
inj king - conca - chaplin, rubbed out morris.
like for like replacements would be.
king - nahas
conca - vlastuin.
chaplin - griffiths you dont replace 195cm/100kg defenders with 188/87kg mediums in batchelor. keep the structure ffs.
morris - helbig
would be looking at at least 2 other changes
petterd - dea or batchelor.
vickery - stephenson. would be giving ivan a lot more time forward and giving orren a decent go in the ruck.
You gotta take into account their structure and other injuries. Griff didn't play because he was injured, and Batch can play tall, especially on Mayne seeing they are the same height. It's not all about structure
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Cant see Helbig playing on Ballantyne he's a hard at it midfielder not a back pocket.
Batch to come in. Freo doesnt have a tall forward line so i wouldnt bring in Griff
Mayne, Walters and Ballantyne are the goal kickers with Kepler floating in as well.. Thats a very small structure apart from Kepler. They will aim to scrum goals with their midfielders.
So who takes who, my thoughts are Kepler - Rance, Grimes - Mayne, Walters - Batch, Ballantyne ?? maybe Newman or Petterd but i'd bring in Matty White to tag him..
Oh yes