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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on July 14, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
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Massive game in the West and then the sissyish have to travel to Melbourne and face us.
IIRC, Bothsides have a poor back up record after Derbies and we get the Dockers.
Long bow perhaps but maybe this plays a little into our hands?
Edit: Title modified to make this the Freo game thread :).
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Pavlich just reported
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Pavlich reported and Clancy Pearce ironed out.
Nice.
Just need Sandi to fall over
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Need a sinkhole to open in the centre of the ground and take their entire midfield, that would be good. :rollin
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Pavlich reported and Clancy Pearce ironed out.
Nice.
Just need Sandi to fall over
Fell over last year at the G got subbed out,Jonathan Griffin went into the ruck and changed the game.
Pavlic and Pearce would be two nice outs to start with any way. :thumbsup
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if Pav gets off that i was dump a load of yazz out from of AFL house.
2 weeks down to 1 if pleads guilty, and if no prior loading
Goneski IMO
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We've got to watch out for a Cairns hangover ourselves. Playing a slog in warm humid conditions takes it out of the legs. I'd imagine the 22 who played will get a very light week on the track to try and recover so they have the legs to run out the game next Sunday. At least we have a 8 day break.
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Bayaltine in doubt according to radio
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We match up well with Freo. Should have won at subi. The rain suited their game at the g last year. We should win in the dry
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Bayaltine in doubt according to radio
Due to what did they say? Prefer him to run into Arnott.
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Doesn't matter what side Freo brings over, what will matter is what side the RFC brings to the game
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Doesn't matter what side Freo brings over, what will matter is what side the RFC brings to the game
:clapping
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Doesn't matter what side Freo brings over, what will matter is what side the RFC brings to the game
:clapping
x 2
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Doesn't matter what side Freo brings over, what will matter is what side the RFC brings to the game
:clapping
x 2
X3
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Bayaltine in doubt according to radio
Copped a stuffing hard hit at one stage. Struggled to stand up after it.
Clancee Pearce probably has a broken jaw thanks to the Embley hit.
Pavlich should cop a week with his carry over points.
Walters hurt his back off the 3m springboard.
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MCG website saying they are expecting a crowd of 52k to game on Sunday.
Kids get in free this week too.
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Event: AFL Round 17
Teams: Richmond v Fremantle
Date: Sunday July 21, 2013
Start time: 1.10pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 9.45am
MCC members: 9.45am
Tickets: Reserved seats available now at Ticketek (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM1713).
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 7.30am
Gate 5: 9.00am
Gate 6: 7.30am
Gate 7: 9.00am (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)
**Road closures will be in place in the MCG precinct and the CBD until 12.00pm for the Run Melbourne event. Please allow extra travel time to the MCG. Refer to the www.runmelbourne.com.au website for road closures information.
Expected attendance: 52,000
General admission seating:
To be advised on Monday July 15.
Special ticket offer!
Richmond FC is giving junior supporters the chance to see the Tigers take on Fremantle for free!
Any person aged 15 years or younger can receive a complimentary general admission ticket to see the Tigers and the Dockers in action at the MCG.
Adults can also receive a discount, and pay only $20 for a ticket, if they pre-book.
To receive your complimentary junior access ticket, or adult discount to the game, register your details here.
Also, before the game kicks-off, head to the ME Bank Centre, Punt Road Oval from 10:30am for some great kids activities including petting zoo, jumping castle and appearances by Richmond players.
Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond - Bay M3 (Rows A-K) and Bay M4 (Rows A-K)
Fremantle - Bay M33 (Rows A-S)
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=1c7637b5-2946-4ca2-b24a-892edab484ca
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Why are they expecting so much? Won't go over 45k
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Why are they expecting so much? Won't go over 45k
How the stuff would you know?
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I worry about this game. We are not in good form and Fremantle have returning players gaining valuable game time. My only saving grace is the possibility of A couple of Freo injuries/Suspensions. Our goal convention is a real issue to for this game. We will have less opportunities to score so we will need to make the most of them.
Some people will point to how narrowly we lost to them earlier in the year but we did the same last year and was subsequently blown out of the water in our return game at the MCG. If the weather in clear, Morris shuts Ballentine down, we rove well to Sandilands, Pav is suspended and Jack gets involved in the game we will win.
Going to be a hard slog regardless
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I worry about this game. We are not in good form and Fremantle have returning players gaining valuable game time. My only saving grace is the possibility of A couple of Freo injuries/Suspensions. Our goal convention is a real issue to for this game. We will have less opportunities to score so we will need to make the most of them.
Some people will point to how narrowly we lost to them earlier in the year but we did the same last year and was subsequently blown out of the water in our return game at the MCG. If the weather in clear, Morris shuts Ballentine down, we rove well to Sandilands, Pav is suspended and Jack gets involved in the game we will win.
Going to be a hard slog regardless
Agreed that Morris will be crucial in this one with the shut down job of Ballantyne. I hope we don't try the send the Deledio to Mundy tactic again though. In an ideal world, send the biscuit to take out Crowley, untagged Deledio then tears poo up. Not sure how Maric would hold up against the Sandman
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The club needs to watch the geelong v freo match to see how to beat freo. To beat them we need to be at our defensive best and need quick movement into forward line. No bombing. Deledio to play full forward. He is a good mark over head and is good on a lead. Need to kick straight or we are gone.
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Deledio would kick 6 if he was left at full forward for an entire game.
The bloke is a gun.
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Is he Bents? bigtone says he's pathetic. Who do I believe?
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Pav out for 3
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Pav out for 3
Yep
From the AFL site:
Matthew Pavlich, Fremantle, has been charged with a level three bumping or making forceful contact from front-on to an opponent with his head over the ball (400 demerit points, four-match sanction) for bumping or making forceful contact from front-on against Mitch Brown, West Coast, during the third quarter of the round 16 match between Fremantle and West Coast, played at Patersons Stadium on Sunday July 14, 2013.
In summary, due to his previous poor record, he can accept a three-match sanction with an early plea
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-15/mrp-full-statement-round-16
***MRP threw out the report against GC's Tom Murphy for kneeing Ricky Petterd in the back:
The match day report against the Gold Coast Suns’ Tom Murphy for kneeing Richmond’s Ricky Petterd was assessed. The ball was loose and heading towards the boundary line when Petterd dived towards the ball. Murphy was coming to the contest from the side and the Gold Coast player attempted to bump his Richmond opponent, rolling over the top of him. After viewing all available footage, receiving a medical report from the Richmond Football Club and speaking to the umpire who laid the report on the day, it was the view of the panel that Murphy’s actions were a legitimate attempt to bump. No further action was taken.
And the sniper Brown wasn't even looked at :banghead
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Nice start - Pavlich loves his Tigers
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Is he Bents? bigtone says he's pathetic. Who do I believe?
:lol
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Preview: Tigers v Dockers
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
5:34pm AEST Monday, July 15, 2013
SUMMARY
The Tigers broke their Cairns hoodoo on Saturday evening when they beat Gold Coast at Cazalys Stadium after two unsuccessful tries at the Far North Queensland venue. It was their fifth win in six games and came on the back of their hugely disappointing loss to North Melbourne the previous week. For the Dockers, a win over cross-town rivals West Coast on Sunday was their sixth victory in seven games and has them fifth on the ladder; six points ahead of the Tigers. This will be their first trip to the MCG this year having last played there in their successful elimination final against Geelong last season.
WHERE AND WHEN: the MCG, Sunday July 21, 1.10pm
TV AND RADIO: Click here for broadcast guide (http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio/broadcast-guide)
PAST FIVE TIMES
Rd 5, 2013, Fremantle 12.9 (81) d Richmond 12.8 (80) at Patersons Stadium
Rd 21, 2012, Fremantle 13.16 (94) d Richmond 11.6 (72) at Patersons Stadium
Rd 11, 2012, Fremantle 12.6 (78) d Richmond 9.12 (66) at the MCG
Rd 7, 2011, Richmond 23.10 (148) d Fremantle 14.15 (99) at the MCG
RD 15, 2010, Richmond 15.10 (100) d Fremantle 11.15 (81) at Etihad Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. Fremantle defeated Richmond earlier this season in round five at Patersons Stadium in a one-point thriller. Hayden Ballantyne kicked four goals in the win.
2. After starting the season with an overall placing of 127th in the Official AFL Player Ratings, Ballantyne has fallen slightly in recent weeks. Since round 11, he dropped as low as 158th after round 14 and is now 157th with a club ranking of eight, with his five goals in round 15 against St Kilda producing a slight spike.
3. The Dockers have won the past three contests between the clubs. This will be the 29th clash between them with the Tigers holding the narrow advantage of 15 wins to 13.
4. The Tigers easily hold the advantage when it comes to playing at the MCG. They've met nine times at the hallowed ground with the home team leading with seven wins to two from the contests.
5. When it comes to Damien Hardwick and Ross Lyon being pitted against each other, the former St Kilda coach is the easy leader. Lyon has coached eight wins from nine clashes against Hardwick, with the other result a draw in 2011.
6. Fremantle has the best defence in 2013. The Dockers have conceded only 70 points a game while the Tigers' average is 82, which ranks them fourth. Offensively, the Tigers are ahead with an average of 96 points a game to Fremantle's 88.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-15/preview-tigers-v-dockers
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We will win this by 35 points plus, if we go back to playing the way we did against the Eagles and we kick straight. We have a point to prove in this game, I just hope the weather will be kind to.
Don't be surprised if we do to the Dockers what North did to us.. :thumbsup
We also have to stop that little prickentine.
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Depending on which weather website you look at plenty of rain expected on Thursday and Friday with 4-5 mm expected on Saturday and Sunday. I expect the game to be a an even lower scoring slog if that is the case so given Pav kicked 6 out of 12 last year in a two goal win to Freo and he is going to miss 10 goals may be a winning score this time round.
I believe we can beat them this week even if it is 10 goals to 7 or 8. :thumbsup
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Freo won't crumble without Pav: White
By Matt Thompson
afl.com.au
12:09pm AEST Tuesday, July 16, 2013
RICHMOND'S chance for revenge against Fremantle on Sunday may have been made slightly better by Matthew Pavlich's suspension, but not by much.
The Fremantle skipper has accepted a three-match suspension for bumping Eagle Mitch Brown.
Tigers midfielder Matt White openly admits Pavlich's absence is "a good thing" as his side looks to make amends for a heartbreaking one-point loss to the Dockers earlier in the season, but expects Freo will be able to fill the void.
"It is and it isn't. They haven't played with him for most of the year … he came back and he's played well in his last few games, (but) they've got soldiers that can replace him pretty easily," White said on Tuesday.
"We're not having a rest knowing that he's not going to play."
White said the Tigers had learnt from the year's earlier contest.
"I think we showed in round five that we can match it with them. To go down by a point … it was pretty much our own undoing in the last five or 10 minutes of that game."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-16/no-pav-but-tigers-wary-
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win or GTFO
FO rossy
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Need Matt White to kick the winning goal in the same fashion.
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Ballantyne out for 2 weeks
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why is he out WP?
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Ballantyne out for 2 weeks
Really? Well we should really win now.
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why is he out WP?
scared of arnot?
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why is he out WP?
scared of arnot?
Probably
But Freo website saying hamstring
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-16/injury-list-round-17
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might be the combination Arnot,Moro,kingy.....nowhere to hide
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:birthday
why is he out WP?
scared of arnot?
:lol Beware of the Teddy Bear Biscuit.
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Match Preview - Fremantle v Richmond
By Costa Kastanis
fremantlefc.com.au
Tuesday, July 16, 2013
LAST FIVE TIMES
Rd 5, 2013, Fremantle 12.9 (81) d Richmond 12.8 (80) at Patersons Stadium
Rd 21, 2012, Fremantle 13.16 (94) d Richmond 11.6 (72) at Patersons Stadium
Rd 11, 2012, Fremantle 12.6 (78) d Richmond 9.12 (66) at the MCG
Rd 7, 2011, Richmond 23.10 (148) d Fremantle 14.15 (99) at the MCG
RD 15, 2010, Richmond 15.10 (100) d Fremantle 11.15 (81) at Etihad Stadium
Last time they met – round 1, 2013
FREMANTLE 2.0 7.5 10.8 12.9 (81)
RICHMOND 5.2 7.3 9.5 12.8 (80)
GOALS
Fremantle: Ballantyne 4, Mayne 3, Walters 2, Crowley, Hill, Suban
Richmond: Knights 3, Vickery 3, McGuane 2, Riewoldt, Grigg, Martin, White
BEST
Fremantle: Barlow, Griffin, McPharlin, C.Pearce, Fyfe, Hill, Walters
Richmond: Knights, Edwards, Martin, Ellis, Cotchin, Vickery, White
INJURIES
Fremantle: Bradley (right knee)
Richmond: TBC
SUBSTITUTES
Fremantle: Nick Suban replaced Kepler Bradley during the second quarter
Richmond: Robin Nahas replaced Brad Helbig during the third quarter
Umpires: Donlon, Dalgleish, Chamberlain
Official crowd: 36,365 at Patersons Stadium
The selection table
Fremantle – Matthew Pavlich is out for three games through suspension. Freo are expecting Paul Duffield to return in defence, but Luke McPharlin is still a month away. Clancee Pearce (concussion) and Nick Suban (corked leg) will be monitored at training this week.
Richmond – Richmond’s injury list is short, with classy half-back Bachar Houli a possible inclusion after missing the past two games.
Possible line-ups
F: D Pearce Z Clarke M Walters
B: S Morris T Chaplin C Newman
HF: M de Boer C Mayne N Fyfe
HB: B Houli A Rance B Ellis
C: S Hill D Mundy T Mzungu
C: M White D Jackson D Martin
HB: L Spurr Z Dawson G Ibbotson
HF: S Edwards T Vickery N Foley
B: M Johnson A Silvagni P Duffield
F: R Petterd J Riewoldt J King
Ruck: A Sandilands M Barlow R Crowley
Ruck: I Maric T Cotchin B Deledio
INT from: J Hannath, C Sutcliffe, N Suban, M Taberner, C Pearce, T Sheridan
INT from: N Vlastuin, S Grigg, R Conca, A Edwards, M Arnot
X Factors
Fremantle – Chris Mayne: Coming off one of the best games he has played for the club, Mayne’s pressure up forward will again be a barometer the entire team will look to equal against a Richmond team that is tough to score against.
Richmond – Bachar Houli: Richmond generates much of it attack from its half-back line, where the brilliant foot skills of Houli are well utilised. The Tigers will hope to regain the defender from injury.
Key Match-ups
Aaron Sandilands v Ivan Maric:
Both big men have been hindered by injury this season, but both are match-winners at their best. Sandilands will be much better for two runs back in the side, while Maric is also picking up form.
Ryan Crowley v Brett Deledio:
Lyon rates Deledio’s ability to hurt the opposition very highly, particularly if he can get goal-side of his opponent. Crowley has been sent to mind the Tiger in all clashes between the sides with Lyon as Freo coach, so expect nothing different on Sunday.
Tendai Mzungu v Dustin Martin:
Mzungu spent time minding dangerous young Eagle Andrew Gaff in the Carlton Mid Derby. He often gets a run-with role on the opposition’s third or fourth best midfielder. Martin has been prolific this season and Lyon could ask Mzungu to go with him.
Alex Rance v Chris Mayne:
Mayne was brilliant against West Coast, and without Pavlich and Ballantyne, he becomes even more key to Fremantle’s forward line against a Richmond defence that ranks fourth in the competition.
Dream Team
Fremantle: That man Michael Barlow again. He scored 122 against Richmond in round 5 and averages 111 against them over the past three.
Richmond: Trent Cotchin has been a little down in fantasy numbers this season, but he has notched scores of 100 and 118 in his past two games and averages 101 against Fremantle.
Keys to victory
Freo will be happy if: Its shutdown players limit the effectiveness of Deledio, Cotchin and Martin. The talented Tiger trio can’t be allowed to dictate terms in the midfield.
Richmond will be happy if: Its fourth-ranked defence gets the better of a Freo forward line missing Pavlich.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-16/match-preview-fremantle-v-richmond
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dont believe pav played against us in rnd 5 and they still won.
dont get all this jumping for joy at opposition sides having injuries. me id rather play em at full strength then there are no excuses either way. and we know exactly where we stand.
also i reckon the way freo play is better suited to the mcg than subiaco.
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The little rodent Ballantyne is out with a hammy!!!! :cheers :cheers :clapping :clapping :gotigers :gotigers
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-16/ballantyne-to-miss-with-hamstring
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The little rodent Ballantyne is out with a hammy!!!! :cheers :cheers :clapping :clapping :gotigers :gotigers
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-16/ballantyne-to-miss-with-hamstring
I thought we were going to win anyway. Still Lyon will try and make it 6 goals to 5. We need to play well and kick a score they cant reach.
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mayne always rips up
we need to arnot him
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I believe the biggest "out" for the dockers is mcpharlin.
Has been the master of Jack recently .
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Docker Nathan Fyfe not angry at Tiger Jackson
West Australian
July 17, 2013
Star Fremantle on-baller Nathan Fyfe is confident there will be no ill feelings when he confronts Richmond midfielder Daniel Jackson in Sunday's AFL clash at the MCG.
Fyfe was handed a two-match suspension for kicking Jackson earlier this year in Fremantle's gripping one-point victory over the Tigers in Perth.
The 21-year-old could have accepted a one-match ban for the incident, but his unsuccessful challenge at the tribunal increased the penalty to two games.
Fyfe said he wasn't thinking too much about a potential re-match with Jackson.
"I could come up against him again. But there are no ill feelings or anything like that," Fyfe said.
"Those things happen in footy and we move on."
Fremantle skipper Matthew Pavlich addressed the player group on Tuesday after being handed a three-match ban for his head-high bump on West Coast's Mitch Brown.
Fyfe said a group address was common practice for players who got suspended.
"As a player that gets suspended, and I was one earlier in the year, we have to acknowledge that it's an undisciplined act that ultimately led to him being out of the side," Fyfe said.
"I was same earlier in the year. So it's important that we address it to the group because it's something we don't want to happen.
"He's done that and we move on now."
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/docker-nathan-fyfe-not-angry-at-tiger-jackson-20130717-2q3rj.html#ixzz2ZI3F3Q57
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"The Dockers will also be without goalsneak Hayden Ballantyne, who has been ruled out for two weeks due to a hamstring injury.
Ballantyne kicked the winning goal against Richmond in round five, and his absence is a big blow to the Dockers, especially with Pavlich also out of action."
This is another positive - this little prick has towelled us endlessly over the years.
No Ballantyne, McPharlin and Pavlich is a huge bonus for us.
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Record crowd predicted on Sunday - 52,000.
Previous Rich vs Freo best was 43,801 at the 'G last year.
Highest ever Freo H/A crowd was 45,436.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-18/record-crowd-tipped-for-sunday
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Record crowd predicted on Sunday - 52,000.
Previous Rich vs Freo best was 43,801 at the 'G last year.
Highest ever Freo H/A crowd was 45,436.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-18/record-crowd-tipped-for-sunday
That would be great - 50K RFC supporters in that - Freo will poo themselves
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13 degrees
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VIDEO: Spotlight on Round 17
Richo and assistant coach Danny Daly preview the Freo game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-18/spotlight-on-round-17
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13 degrees
And rain. Similar to last year's conditions at the 'G.
We've played ordinary footy over the past month for lengthy periods during games even against bottom sides so on form I'm nervous about Sunday. Our last decent performance was against Adelaide. Since then we bullied the young light-bodied doggies in an open unaccountable affair, beat the Saints thanks to one (2nd) quarter (terrible first qtr though), got flogged by North and finally had a pitiful 1.5 opening quarters versus the Suns before waking up. That formline won't cut it against Freo. Nor will relying on Freo being weaker because Pavlich and Ballatyne aren't playing. I'm hoping our habit of often playing to the level of our opponents will raise our standard of footy back up to a decent level given we are up against a top 5 team.
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Look out Tigers, Freo's out to get you from behind
Opposition analyst
The Age
July 19, 2013
'Mayne's manic men in Richmond rearview mirrors.''
On the long flight across Australia, I pondered what I had seen in the western derby. Of special interest was how Fremantle would respond against West Coast, coming off a dose of its own defensive medicine at the hands of Geelong - admittedly a road trip as imposing as any visit to Subiaco.
It turned out to be an exciting contest, for three-and-a-bit quarters, before the superior Dockers accelerated to a good win. I was captivated to watch the extreme work-rate and defensive pressure of the Fremantle small-to-medium half-forwards, led and marshalled by the supremely fit Chris Mayne. Mayne's supporting cast includes Matthew De Boer, Michael Walters and the effervescent Hayden Ballantyne.
Mayne has transformed to become the ''Simon-Peter'' of Ross Lyon's band of purple disciples - he embodies the follower who has bought into and plays to the total creed of Lyon's defensive system. He has the physical capability and, more importantly, the mental strength to stay focused on his role within that system. That role is to play an integral part of the pincer movement that traps opposition players and causes the midfield to commit front-half turnovers that invariably lead to Fremantle kicking winning scores.
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The first quarter was a battle between the two ways of scoring - goals from stoppages versus goals from turnovers. West Coast showed glimpses of its ability, with Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui rucking to the irrepressible Matt Priddis, who had dodged the Ryan Crowley clamp (Crowley was sent to Chris Masten). At the first change, the Eagles led the stoppage count 13-9.
Fremantle, on the other hand, had scored goals from turnovers with its press defence, and although it was behind on the tackle count (18-28), it was where those tackles had been effected and by whom that had allowed it a two-goal lead at quarter time.
Time and time again it was the Fremantle small-and-medium forwards who were making the tackles on the West Coast ball carrier. In the first quarter, Mayne had three tackles, De Boer four and Ballantyne one - that is almost 50 per cent of the Freo tackle count coming from defensive-minded forwards.
The Richmond midfielders and rebounding half-backs had better beware on Sunday - if they check their rearview mirrors they will see Mayne and his manic men coming at them from behind at a great speed, looking to pick them off as part of the Lyon defensive system.
It works like this. As the ball is turned over through an opposition intercept or a skill error, most midfields dutifully push back to help out their defenders and try to win the ball back.
With a lot of teams, there is a time lag before the forwards start to work up the ground to join in that part of the game. With the Fremantle press system, the midfielders do push back, but to a limit, before coming forward and at the opposition ball carriers.
As well as the midfielders, often you will see the Fremantle forwards getting well up the ground, even into their own defensive 50, before turning to press forward again, or releasing hard back towards the forward line. Mayne demonstrated this early in the third quarter, when he ran forward off his man to press the West Coast ball carrier. The resultant Freo tackle caused a turnover and led to a Stephen Hill goal.
The secondary part of the system relies on the Freo forwards pushing high up the ground, following the ball as it leaves their forward 50 area - ready to sweat on any opposition ball carrier who freezes when faced by the Freo midfielders pressing forward at them. Then the pincer snaps shut, and often it is the Freo forwards who snap it shut, making their tackles from behind on unsuspecting opponents. It is a clever system, one that works spectacularly well, especially when executed by fit and committed players such as Mayne and De Boer.
Make no mistake though, Mayne and his fellow forwards are still out there to hit the scoreboard. Mayne shares the goalkicking lead at Fremantle with Walters, both with 27, with Ballantyne trailing with 19 as Fremantle looks to share the load.
Of the AFL's top 20 goalkickers, Mayne has the second-most tackles with 59, only slightly behind Luke Breust from Hawthorn.
Tiger midfielders, you have been warned.
The opposition analyst works in that role for an AFL club.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/look-out-tigers-freos-out-to-get-you-from-behind-20130718-2q7br.html
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whatevs bro
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Morris will be the biggest factor to the game then, given this information. If he can shut Mayne down both offensively and defensively, it will go a long way towards us winning the game particularly with Ballantyne absent. Houli is the other key. We need to take risks moving the ball forward out of defense and not stop, prop and swing it sideways. If we do this we will lose. The midfielders will need to lead, provide space and Vickery will need to provide a long marking option.
Do that and we'll win.....and kick accurately of course :P
Interesting
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Forecast for Sunday is sunny now. Forecasts varying between 11 and 13
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Forecast for Sunday is sunny now. Forecasts varying between 11 and 13
Link?
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Sunday 21 July
Summary
Min 5
Max 13
A few showers.
Melbourne area
Cloudy. Scattered showers. Winds north to northwesterly and light, increasing to 20 to 25 km/h during the morning.
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Forecast for Sunday is sunny now. Forecasts varying between 11 and 13
Link?
As above
http://www.eldersweather.com.au/vic/melbourne/melbourne
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Where did he pop sunny out from ?
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Where did he pop sunny out from ?
It's gonna be sunny and 16. No rain 8)
Watch the forecast change over the next 36 hours.
I WANT 60,000 THERE SUNDAY. DON'T LET ME DOWN GOD AND TIGER SUPPORTERS :banghead
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It's gonna be sunny and 16. No rain 8)
Every weather web-site is saying the same thing for Sunday, possible showers and 12-13o.
Adelaide's forecast for tomorrow (which is usaully what we can expect within 24-36 hours) is showers and a top of 11o, so would love to know how you came up with 16?
It might be sunny at the moment (3.55pm 19/7/2013) but there is rain on the way that should pass through parts of Melb within the next couple of hours
You can track it on the weather radar on the BOM web-site
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Forecast for Sunday is sunny now. Forecasts varying between 11 and 13
showers 13 - deal with it
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Where did he pop sunny out from ?
It's gonna be sunny and 16. No rain 8)
Watch the forecast change over the next 36 hours.
I WANT 60,000 THERE SUNDAY. DON'T LET ME DOWN GOD AND TIGER SUPPORTERS :banghead
I'll see if I can have a word with him.
:thumbsup
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If it rains I can't go. I don't want to catch a cough
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The forecast reminds me of the game against Freo 10 years ago when the 'G was drenched by a torrential storm and players were sliding around in pools of water. We flogged Freo that day so you didn't care about the weather.
If it's going to be wet tomorrow, it's vital we get a good start while the ball is still fairly dry initially. You don't want to be playing catch up footy in low scoring slog.
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Key Docker in doubt
Brad Elborough, Perth
The Age
July 20, 2013
All-Australian ruckman Aaron Sandilands is in doubt for Sunday's round 17 clash between Fremantle and Richmond at the MCG.
Sandilands was not on the team's flight to Melbourne on Friday afternoon, but Dockers coach Ross Lyon said he was expected to travel on Saturday and he remained optimistic that the champion ruckman would take his place in the side. ''We'll give him another night at home. He's been a bit off. Cold winter, bit of a sniffle, bit sore. We'll monitor him and we're really hopeful and optimistic, but we're prepared if he doesn't play,'' Lyon said.
''So we've got [Jesse] Crichton, [Matt] Taberner and [Jack] Hannath. So we'll check out the conditions and the run, but we're optimistic.''
Sandilands has played only two games this season - the past two - having missed the first 14 rounds with a foot injury.
Defenders Clancee Pearce and Paul Duffield will take their places in the side.
Pearce has been cleared to play after concerns of concussion from a clash with West Coast's Andrew Embley last weekend that saw the Eagle suspended and the Docker subbed out of the game. Duffield has missed the past two games with a calf injury.
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/key-docker-in-doubt-20130719-2q9yf.html#ixzz2ZWG8gYVD
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Nice, no Sandi. Ivan must be rubbing his hands together :shh
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I struggle to believe what Ross Lyon says at times, especially when it comes to team selections and Aaron Sandilands.
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Sandi went off inj 10 mins in last year, changed the game. :shh
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They are waiting to see how wet it is.
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The forecast reminds me of the game against Freo 10 years ago when the 'G was drenched by a torrential storm and players were sliding around in pools of water. We flogged Freo that day so you didn't care about the weather.
If it's going to be wet tomorrow, it's vital we get a good start while the ball is still fairly dry initially. You don't want to be playing catch up footy in low scoring slog.
Was that the game where, i think it was Stafford and Sandilands were so uncoordinated in those conditions. There was one incident were Staff and sandi had the ball between them and they tried to pick it up in the end they just laughed at each other.
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The forecast reminds me of the game against Freo 10 years ago when the 'G was drenched by a torrential storm and players were sliding around in pools of water. We flogged Freo that day so you didn't care about the weather.
If it's going to be wet tomorrow, it's vital we get a good start while the ball is still fairly dry initially. You don't want to be playing catch up footy in low scoring slog.
Was that the game where, i think it was Stafford and Sandilands were so uncoordinated in those conditions. There was one incident were Staff and sandi had the ball between them and they tried to pick it up in the end they just laughed at each other.
Yep 2003 Mr Tigs we were 5 goals up at half time and then it rained and rained and rained and we won by 8 goals. Very funny day that day, heard a Rich supporter tell a Freo fan in the Southern that the Melbourne monkey was no longer on their back but now up their bums. The fight that ensued was gold. Never forget it. :lol :rollin :lol
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Sandi doesn't play in wet games with his slippery basketball shoes. It's in his contract.
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Giant freak
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last yr it was miserable weather too and freo gave us a lesson
we cannot get ahead of ourselves and they lost sandilands very early in that game yet they gave us a bath
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The bookies have us as favourites ...
Richmond $1.68
Fremantle $2.20
Line is 4.5 pts
https://www.tab.com.au/#!/nsw/sports/betting/standard/AFL/AFL/Richmond-v-Fremantle/Head-To-Head
The 'experts' in the media are mixed ...
Herald-Sun 18 - 12
The Age 10 - 14
http://resources.news.com.au/files/2013/07/19/1226681/808773-hs-tipsters-r17.pdf
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/expert-tipsters
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Where Freo Can Win It v Tigers
By Costa Kastanis
fremantlefc.com.au
3:11pm AEST Friday, July 19, 2013
Fremantle’s win over Richmond in round 5 was by the smallest possible margin – one point.
And it wasn’t just the scoreboard that was incredibly close, with most of the key performance indicators also tighter than Luke McPharlin’s play against opposition forwards.
Freo had 29 more kicks, but the Tigers had two more handballs. Both sides disposed of the ball at similar efficiency, with Fremantle going at 72.6 per cent and Richmond 70.4 per cent.
The Tigers won the contested possessions 155-145 and took seven more contested marks. But Fremantle had 39 more uncontested possessions and 42 more uncontested marks.
Richmond also won the tackle count 73-64, which went against the season averages for both sides this season.
Freo averages 68 tackles a game compared the Tigers’ AFL-worst 56. That stat highlights the pressure Richmond brought to Patersons Stadium in round 5.
Freo will also have to replace the four goals Hayden Ballantyne kicked against the Tigers, although the side has proved on many occasions this season it doesn’t rely on any one player.
Expect Ryan Crowley to get the gig on brilliant Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio again. He held the Tiger to just 10 kicks and 10 handballs in round 5.
Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin was a star in round 5 with 26 disposals at 83.3 per cent kicking efficiency.
For Freo, Michael Barlow had 31 touches, but his kicking efficiency was a low 38.9 per cent. Nat Fyfe had 23 disposals to be among our best.
The round 5 game was Garrick Ibbotson’s first for the season, and he was a star with 24 disposals at 83.3 per cent efficiency and 11 uncontested marks in defence.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-19/where-freo-can-win-it-v-tigers
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Sandilands to miss crucial Richmond clash
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
1:14pm AEST Saturday, July 20, 2013
FREMANTLE ruckman Aaron Sandilands has remained in Perth with a bout of the flu and will miss Sunday's clash against Richmond at the MCG.
Sandilands did not fly with the team on Friday and football manager Chris Bond confirmed on Saturday the 30-year-old would not be available to face the Tigers.
Sandilands has been battling illness and soreness this week, and Fremantle took emergencies Jack Hannath, Matt Taberner and Jesse Crichton to Melbourne as a precaution.
It is expected Hannath, who has played nine games this season, will come into the 22 to support ruckman Zac Clarke.
Asked if there was any risk Sandilands could be sidelined beyond this week's clash, assistant coach Michael Prior said: "No, it'll just be a one-week thing".
"He's been a bit crook and sore during the week," Prior said on Saturday.
Fremantle will also be without suspended captain Matthew Pavlich on Sunday as well as injured key defender Luke McPharlin (calf) and small forward Hayden Ballantyne (hamstring).
Prior said Fremantle's depth had been crucial to its success this season and the team was confident in a ruck combination of Clarke and Hannath.
"We've had some really good players out and the guys that have come in, whether they've been experienced players or younger players, they've played their role for the team," Prior said.
"They've played their part and we've been able to get over the line.
"Tommy (Sheridan) has been in the last few weeks and we've been really pleased with what he's done.
"Cam Sutcliffe has been in and out and played a little bit as a sub. We're really confident with what he can do."
Prior labelled Richmond's midfield "one of the best in the competition" and said the game would be won and lost in the centre.
He said Fremantle was confident it could perform at the MCG and in wet conditions following its round 11 win over the Tigers last season in Melbourne.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-20/sandi-out-of-tiger-clash
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Looks like the clubs tactic of recruiting all the unhealthy twins on the Bupa ad and sending them over to the homes of all the Freo players has paid off with big Sandi mysteriously being struck down with the flu. :thumbsup
They will now be known as the Richmond mosquito squadron!
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Where Freo Can Win It v Tigers
By Costa Kastanis
fremantlefc.com.au
3:11pm AEST Friday, July 19, 2013
Fremantle’s win over Richmond in round 5 was by the smallest possible margin – one point.
And it wasn’t just the scoreboard that was incredibly close, with most of the key performance indicators also tighter than Luke McPharlin’s play against opposition forwards.
Freo had 29 more kicks, but the Tigers had two more handballs. Both sides disposed of the ball at similar efficiency, with Fremantle going at 72.6 per cent and Richmond 70.4 per cent.
The Tigers won the contested possessions 155-145 and took seven more contested marks. But Fremantle had 39 more uncontested possessions and 42 more uncontested marks.
Richmond also won the tackle count 73-64, which went against the season averages for both sides this season.
Freo averages 68 tackles a game compared the Tigers’ AFL-worst 56. That stat highlights the pressure Richmond brought to Patersons Stadium in round 5.
Freo will also have to replace the four goals Hayden Ballantyne kicked against the Tigers, although the side has proved on many occasions this season it doesn’t rely on any one player.
Expect Ryan Crowley to get the gig on brilliant Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio again. He held the Tiger to just 10 kicks and 10 handballs in round 5.
Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin was a star in round 5 with 26 disposals at 83.3 per cent kicking efficiency.
For Freo, Michael Barlow had 31 touches, but his kicking efficiency was a low 38.9 per cent. Nat Fyfe had 23 disposals to be among our best.
The round 5 game was Garrick Ibbotson’s first for the season, and he was a star with 24 disposals at 83.3 per cent efficiency and 11 uncontested marks in defence.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-19/where-freo-can-win-it-v-tigers
Up yours kostaki you flog ;D
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Be a tight, ugly game like last week I fear. Just praying for no rain. :pray
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This is all I want to hear before the first bounce:
RICHMOND :clapping :clapping :clapping RICHMOND :clapping :clapping :clapping RICHMOND :clapping :clapping
A sea of yellow and black cheering the boys on, crowd has been quite limp this year excluding cheer and grog squad.
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We'll smash these pretenders..
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We'll smash these pretenders..
100 point win coming up, no excuses
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Umpires for today's game:
Chris Donlon (1)
Stephen McBurney (3)
Shane Stewart (10)
http://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Round-17.pdf
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Anyone know of other live streams of the game?
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Told ya it was gonna be sunny. 12 degrees and sunny but hopefully it gets to my prediction of 16 8)
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Umpires for today's game:
Chris Donlon (1)
Stephen McBurney (3) :clapping :clapping Yessss get around him :clapping :clapping
Shane Stewart (10)
http://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Round-17.pdf
:whistle
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Getting the rub of the green with the umpires early
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Great start Tigers. Anyone there have a guide on how many people are there. Sounds loud
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I like the intensity. Really matching them with some great tackling which is resulting in perceived pressure. Grigg 6 tackles. :clapping
If martin put his kicking boots on instead of the slippers hes wearing he'd probably have 3-4 goals by now and game over. Weve got to nail the gimme goals!
Pearce and Crowley with 4 inside 50s a piece. We need to address & stop this.
:gotigers
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Need to be a lot more precise with our ball movement over 10-15 metres. Freo are flooding so we are moving the ball around but making crucial turnovers, seem to lack confidence in short distance kicking especially as well as floaty handballs putting players under pressure
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Rance is such a muppet. Hands made of soap and always runs into trouble.
Also, I cannot stand Eddie McGuire commentating our games, turns every minor incident into a reportable offence and continually points our our shortcomings.
Martin... TFFT
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Two very very very very lucky frees and goals.
Thanks ump. Now I know how the kanga supporter feels. :rollin
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3/4 time comments from Eddie.... Richmond get 2 fortuitous free kicks for a 21 point lead!
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Two very very very very lucky frees and goals.
Thanks ump. Now I know how the kanga supporter feels. :rollin
The Vickery one was there all day, every day.
Cotch was lucky but I can never understand why any supporter would think we are very lucky to get any free kicks - over the years we have earnt the right to bank some free kicks that some might consider contentious.....
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Rance is such a muppet. Hands made of soap and always runs into trouble.
Also, I cannot stand Eddie McGuire commentating our games, turns every minor incident into a reportable offence and continually points our our shortcomings.
Martin... TFFT
:rollin
But took 16 marks and had it 30 times.
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Cotch BOG.
Rance excellent as so was Jackson & Chaplin.
Grigg stood up and showed some hardness. 7 tackles.
Martin creativity was great its a shame he didn't have 5 goals.
Credit to Houli good game considering he's started Ramadan.
Youngsters Ellis & Vlaustin were very good.
Great all round performance by the fellas.
Not going to mention the F word yet, been burnt too many times.
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Two very very very very lucky frees and goals.
Thanks ump. Now I know how the kanga supporter feels. :rollin
The Vickery one was there all day, every day.
Cotch was lucky but I can never understand why any supporter would think we are very lucky to get any free kicks - over the years we have earnt the right to bank some free kicks that some might consider contentious.....
It was good they nailed the goals. Got to make 'em count when you get them.
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Cotch BOG.
Rance excellent as so was Jackson & Chaplin.
Grigg stood up and showed some hardness. 7 tackles.
Martin creativity was great its a shame he didn't have 5 goals.
Credit to Houli good game considering he's started Ramadan.
Youngsters Ellis & Vlaustin were very good.
Great all round performance by the fellas.
Not going to mention the F word yet, been burnt too many times.
Thought it was a shame Dusty didn't get 5 goals also. Although that last shot on goal was a bit selfish, I can't blame him for backing himself and going for broke.
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When freo got within 8 points early in the last quarter , I couldn't handle the pressure anymore and decided to go for a walk around the block.
When I returned we were almost five goals up with two minutes to go and the wife had a smile on her face.
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When freo got within 8 points early in the last quarter , I couldn't handle the pressure anymore and decided to go for a walk around the block.
When I returned we were almost five goals up with two minutes to go and the wife had a smile on her face.
So your wife was miserable and when you peeed off around the block you got home and she had a huge smile on her face. According to me that sounds very dodgy and you should be engaging in an investigation about what Mrs 073 got upto whilst you were on your sojourn around the block. ;D
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When freo got within 8 points early in the last quarter , I couldn't handle the pressure anymore and decided to go for a walk around the block.
When I returned we were almost five goals up with two minutes to go and the wife had a smile on her face.
So your wife was miserable and when you peeed off around the block you got home and she had a huge smile on her face. According to me that sounds very dodgy and you should be engaging in an investigation about what Mrs 073 got upto whilst you were on your sojourn around the block. ;D
:rollin
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She had the courage to watch the tigers fight it out . I did not.
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I love seeing Houli,morris,newman,and vlas carry the ball from the backline,even rancy I don't mind,but Geez pettard freaks me out,he seems at 6s and 7s when hes got time
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gee your tough on Ricky P G, I thought he was great, set us up from the getgo with that clearance in the opening seconds, plays every game like it his last, has hands like a steel trap and has the ball on the end of a string for a HBF, 24 (11 marks) last week 22 (7 marks) today, good numbers :shh
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Maybe your right Bo....I guess nobody is perfect
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I agree re Ricky. His kicking action is scary but comes off more often than not.
Oh and it didn't rain did it?
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VIDEOS:
Match highlights
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-21/round-17-match-highlights
Theme Song
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-21/round-17-the-song
PICS:
AFL photos
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202013%20Rd%2017%20-%20Richmond%20v%20Fremantle&image_id=295746
Getty Images
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=159931405&EditorialProduct=Sport
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/174133606-nick-vlastuin-of-the-tigers-gets-his-head-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QRhgNwdTO72QHxwJ6Mh40JN0cxRuxYskKLSMljCBphlZwtOSEaAJ0mIWUX3SX%2bjpeA%3d%3d) (http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/174134276-troy-chaplin-jack-riewoldt-and-jake-king-of-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QaEcXA5D4Pi1JrFoyixfN7fjjmVsW8%2f%2bra1mOYknJhG7TiTkmNICmAwh2BBnsRBl7g%3d%3d)
(i) Nick Vlastuin of the Tigers gets his head ripped off by teamate Troy Chaplin who contests for the ball against Matt de Boer of the Dockers
(ii) Troy Chaplin (L) Jack Riewoldt (C) and Jake King of the Tigers celebrate the win
(Photos by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)
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To beat Freo at their own game over a full 4 quarters and smash them in the clearances and stoppages was the most pleasing part of the win. Nothing flashy; we just outworked them in the midfield.
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Better effort today by all concerned but don't lose sight of the fact that Freo was severely depleted. The next 2 weeks will be very enlightening.
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Geez RFC needs a Chris Mayne type as THE 3rd forward option.
That type of player with a burning competitive desire & skills set would be a massive asset to the forward structure.
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Hardwick outcoached Lyon. Beat Freo at their own game. Tackling fantastic. So many tackles that should have been rewarded weren't. Superb game from Cotch. Jack was good as well. Overall a very good team effort. If Martin had kicked straight would have won by more. Not getting carried away with win because Froe were undermined but still it was a good win and important in the context of the season.
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Hardwick outcoached Lyon. Beat Freo at their own game. Tackling fantastic. So many tackles that should have been rewarded weren't.
This is what I didn't get. It seemed we weren't getting as many holding/dropping the ball frees as we deserved due to maybe the umpires letting them go to even up us getting some other easy stuff. After being criticised for so long about our tackling it was frustrating to watch tackle after tackle that they either held it with prior, dropped it, spun in circles or simply threw the ball just let go.
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I saw a passage of play where they scored a goal where they fair dinkum slung the ball one handed when being tackled not once but twice and the umpire just ignored it, another time I saw a diving rugby pass, also ignored and resulted in a goal to them. They were getting mauled by tackling pressure but we didn't get rewarded at all.
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Our best win of the year of you ask me
Round 1 was more enjoyable and satisfying but this one meant a lot
Best tackling pressure I've seen in a while
You can pick a few issues (Morris falling over every 2 minutes) but overall a great 4 quarter effort
That King hit was nothing more than a free kick. I wait with great interest what they come up with today
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it wasnt just tackling pressure but all round defensive pressure. To see freo players look like they were away but have to prop and wait as they had no options was very pleasing.
I'm more inclined to say our players outplayed theirs rather than outcoached them. They maintained their own pressure and withstood freo's for the whole game, unlike the north game where they just wilted
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it wasnt just tackling pressure but all round defensive pressure. To see freo players look like they were away but have to prop and wait as they had no options was very pleasing.
I'm more inclined to say our players outplayed theirs rather than outcoached them. They maintained their own pressure and withstood freo's for the whole game, unlike the north game where they just wilted
I think it was both al. Our coaches created the game plan and strategies to combat their game plan and then the players were able to maintain the intensity and concentration to execute these roles. :clapping
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Twas a great game all round.
Great pressure by the boys and we had solid contributions by everyone.
Coaching staff had did a good job at ensuring the boys won this game especially considering it was definately our best chance with all of there outs.
The one thing I do want to know is;
Who was playing on Mzungu???
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Who was playing on Mzungu???
Ellis was most of the time, and defintely was when Mzungu kicked 2 of his 3 goals in the 3rd qtr
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Ill shut up when we get the flag ;D
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Ill shut up when we get the flag ;D
true but i think finals is what people want for the short term and also bombers getting thrown out of the comp for 2 years.
those 2 things will make me extremely happy.
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finals 2-3 years in a row and build from there
bombers - afl and asada cut a deal apparently, all over the news
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how did everyone see Hannath's game?
2 hit outs, neither to advantage
about right or below average?
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lawl
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and Lyon)
Richmond vs Fremantle
10 Cotchin (Rich)
6 Rance (Rich)
4 Martin (Rich)
3 Mzungu (Frem)
3 Riewoldt (Rich)
2 Jackson (Rich)
1 Crowley (Frem)
1 White (Rich)
http://aflca.com.au/index.php?id=14&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1173&tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=658ad90bee
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which coach only gave Tross the 2 votes? :shh
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how did everyone see Hannath's game?
2 hit outs, neither to advantage
about right or below average?
he did stuff all it seems. but at just 21 and in his first yr i reckon in most games hes shown hes not ready but hes also shown he has real potential. and in most games hes competed pretty well.
whos boots would you rather be in a not quite ready 21 yr old in hannath at freo or the 31yo just plain not up to it stehenson at richmond.you get just as much out of hannath and you have upside.
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I'd rather not talk about list management heading into a possible drought breaking finals series because it is boring as **** if its all the same to you mate :thumbsup
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The defining statistic from Sunday’s game was the scores from stoppages. Richmond generated 5.6 from the 82 stoppages opposed to Fremantle’s three behinds.
Both teams scored 47 points from turnovers.
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-22/points-of-interest-from-richmond
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how did everyone see Hannath's game?
2 hit outs, neither to advantage
about right or below average?
Do you reckon Freo would do a straight swap for Ty?
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I'd rather not talk about list management heading into a possible drought breaking finals series because it is boring as **** if its all the same to you mate :thumbsup
Post of the year
:bow
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how did everyone see Hannath's game?
2 hit outs, neither to advantage
about right or below average?
he did stuff all it seems. but at just 21 and in his first yr i reckon in most games hes shown hes not ready but hes also shown he has real potential. and in most games hes competed pretty well.
whos boots would you rather be in a not quite ready 21 yr old in hannath at freo or the 31yo just plain not up to it stehenson at richmond.you get just as much out of hannath and you have upside.
right now, at this point in time, stephenson offers more as a back up to maric, which is all he ever was meant to be. A stop gap measure. no more no less.