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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 15, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
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Team coming up after the ad break on Ch 7
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In: Petterd, Grimes
Out: Newman, Nahas
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Newman why is he out?
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In: Petterd
:-X
Grimes
8)
Out: Newman,
cotton wool
Newman why is he out?
carrying a knock i think - would be tragic if he doesnt play finals
Nahas
:clapping
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RICHMOND
B: Morris, Rance, Astbury
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Petterd
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Jackson
HF: White, Martin, Ellis
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Deledio, Foley
IC: Tuck, Conca, Vlastuin, Grimes
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
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Newman why is he out?
Slight ankle injury. I would say we've erred on the cautious side to make sure he will be 100% right to play finals.
Titch not back either.
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We need Titch
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Good side, I'm glad Astbury was retained.
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We need Titch
yep
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The Blues have made 5 changes.
Carlton
B: Josh Bootsma, Michael Jamison, Lachie Henderson
HB: Zach Tuohy, Andrew McInnes, Bryce Gibbs
C: Chris Yarran, Mitch Robinson, Kade Simpson
HF: Ed Curnow, Andrew Walker, Tom Bell
F: Brock McLean, Levi Casboult, Heath Scotland
Foll: Robert Warnock, Eddie Betts, Marc Murphy
I/C: Jarrad Waite, Nick Graham, Troy Menzel, Dennis Armfield
Emg: Kane Lucas, Sam Rowe, Jaryd Cachia
In: Andrew McInnes, Mitch Robinson, Nick Graham, Tom Bell, Levi Casboult
Out: Matthew Watson (Foot), Chris Judd (Knee), Sam Rowe (Omitted), Jaryd Cachia (Omitted), Jeff Garlett (Glute)
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
Yep
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As long as robins out I'm happy.
Interesting that Petterd is straight back in. Obviously very highly rated by coaching group. Swing him forward!!
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Yeah best protect Newman so he get's to play a final! I hope Tuck doesn't get another injury either. He too also deserves some finals action
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If Im honest, more excited about our emergencies
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Blues 5 changes, can't win :clapping
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Agree with playing it cautious re: Newman. Would have liked to see titch get back in. Good to see Grimes in. Happy retained Astbury
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If Im honest, more excited about our emergencies
RICHMOND
B: Morris, Rance, Astbury
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Helbig
C: McDonut, Cotchin, Jackson
HF: White, Martin, Ellis
F: McBean, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Deledio, Foley
IC: Tuck, Conca, Vlastuin, Grimes
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
Agree. happy with the emergencies...can't go wrong even if there are any late changes
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RICHMOND
B: Morris, Rance, Astbury
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Petterd
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Jackson
HF: White, Martin, Ellis
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Deledio, Foley
IC: Tuck, Conca, Vlastuin, Grimes
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
Whoa :shh
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Awesome news Grimes is ready to go.
Really important player for us when he's up and going. Will make a massive difference to our set up.
Also happy to see us going with a different set up this week with Astbury staying in.
With Grimes and Rance being so athletic it give us the opportunity to play 4 talls down back but still have the run out of there.
Need a CHF who can bring the ball to ground, maybe Pettard, and we are starting to look really dangerous..
Looking forward to the game this week. :gotigers
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B: Morris, Rance, Astbury
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Petterd
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Jackson
HF: White, Martin, Ellis
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Deledio, Foley
IC: Tuck, Conca, Vlastuin, Grimes
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
:pray :pray
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We need Titch
Yep, totally agree Brackets but we need him more in 3 weeks time. Fix it proper now and reap the benefits later.
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Nanas is out and I can go to the footy again. :woohoo
:gotigers
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I have stated in a few other forums over the past couple of years that the Tigers have the best midfield in the comp, we just don't know how to use their massive potential yet. People said I was mad, >:(
Now they have arrived, and I truly believe that our boys have only just begun the war for the cup.
Add to the midfield, the back men, Morris, Rance and Astbury and how awesome are we looking.
If a backman could win a brownlow (don't know too many off hand that have), Morris will be the one, just watch him go.
All this goes without even having to mention the awesome forwards, it's gonna be a fantastic 15 years to come boys.
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I love the fact we can bring Grimes back in, rest Newy whilst still giving Petterd a run and ensuring Titch is ready to go for the Essendon game as I am now of the notion he'll rest next week against GWS as well.
A few new and young faces for the Carlscum. To sell the rebuild they need to lose this one as I think they'll want to beat Essendon next week for the Cheat & Scum Cup and not offer their supporters hope with a mediocre list. Then again they've tanked before who says they will not do it again.
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we have 3 KPB & 3 KPF playing. in the same team
well **** me, dimmbo
RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
:cheers
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We've gone from having not enough talls against Sydney to having 4 when there are only 2 tall forwards :lol
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would have liked to see Vlas rested and McDonough brought in......depending on the weather a tall may still be left out imo...eg astbury
cheers!
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would have liked to see Vlas rested and McDonough brought in......depending on the weather a tall may still be left out imo...eg astbury
cheers!
Welcome aboard OER, sdc.
Maybe against GWS we may rest some senior players before the finals and bring in McDonough or even McBean.
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cheers one-eyed
:cheers
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..... it's gonna be a fantastic 15 years to come boys.
I remember thinking that in 1980 - how we were going to be a powerhouse for the next 10 years. :'(
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I reckon Astbury is just fine as our swingman. If Luke fails to fire expect him to be moved forward. He has shown that he is a hard lead and good mark. I hope they persevere with him in the side.
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would have liked to see Vlas rested and McDonough brought in......depending on the weather a tall may still be left out imo...eg astbury
cheers!
Rumour on BF that McDonough will be a late in.
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The Big Donut :gotigers :clapping
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true its pronounced madonna?
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..... it's gonna be a fantastic 15 years to come boys.
I remember thinking that in 1980 - how we were going to be a powerhouse for the next 10 years. :'(
I remember teasing the kid next door for being a saints fan :wallywink
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..... it's gonna be a fantastic 15 years to come boys.
I remember thinking that in 1980 - how we were going to be a powerhouse for the next 10 years. :'(
Apparently a lot of people thought that Inc opposition supporters and media alike. How wrong everyone was, but honestly who would've known? :-\
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too much hype about us atm... usually means a loss
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At the risk of going the 'early crow'. I reckon 'donuts' will become a cult figure ala Milne at St Kilda if he carries his form into the AFL.
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too much hype about us atm... usually means a loss
We will lose today
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STFU and GTFO ya nuff nuffs
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true its pronounced madonna?
It's pronounced McPlugga or McDonut I believe. He accepts either. :shh
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too much hype about us atm... usually means a loss
We will lose today
thanks for stuffing the my saturday morning. We will flog these white collar crim dogs. 50+ points
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if we so it means we have grown as a team
history is against us.. we always stuff these games up
hope this time we stand up to the occasion
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Very relaxed about today's game..........
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Me too Rua
If we lose it will just sting blues fans more when we are playing in September and they are delisting Gibbs
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Just saw on twitter matt white late withdrawl and matt mcdonough in.
Yesss the donut debuts!!!!!
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why was white a late change?
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Stoked with donut, but what is wrong with White? And are we still too tall?
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Grimes can play on a smaller player and if it pans out we are, id guess he will be subbed off, considering his lack of match fitness.
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
imo all three should be playing. why play petterd and grimes at all when you have astbury rance and chaplin.
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grimes is one of our best players
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hope he isn't the sub for today....reckon he'll do really well in the seniors
cheers!
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
imo all three should be playing. why play petterd and grimes at all when you have astbury rance and chaplin.
Claw I'm sure you have in the past put forward a pretty good argument for being able to play 4 taller players in the backline, using sydney and geelong as an example.
Have you changed your mind or is it a case of not rating grimes?
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RICHMOND
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-15/grimes-back
:cheers
imo all three should be playing. why play petterd and grimes at all when you have astbury rance and chaplin.
Claw I'm sure you have in the past put forward a pretty good argument for being able to play 4 taller players in the backline, using sydney and geelong as an example.
Have you changed your mind or is it a case of not rating grimes?
It's a case of Richmond can't do anything right
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hope he isn't the sub for today....reckon he'll do really well in the seniors
cheers!
No tuck is the sub today :cheers
Nick, not sure but imo natty has been ripping it up lately maybe has a niggle and have rest? Precautionary?
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AFL site says he was omitted (grain of salt is advised)
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Booootsma
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Good start from the donut
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Apparently Reiwoldt can win his 2nd coleman? :help
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Time to totally annihilate the scum cheats today. Good start lets just go in for a really big killing
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That was a fairly impressive start from the Tiggers.
I'm looking to see if we can dish up some genuine medicine in the next 3 qtrs.
It would be nice to deliver some payback today.
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Who the stuff is on Brock McLean?
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Who is on McLean???
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Very stuffin disappointing quarter.
That was the term to put this game to bed but we played like millionaires in the first half of that quarter and then simply lost our way.
:banghead
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Who is on McLean???
You sound like the bloke sitting in front of me :laugh:
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Who is on McLean???
You sound like the bloke sitting in front of me :laugh:
Probably is. You want a beer? :cheers
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Foley playing a.great game for the blues
must be in their beats
Cotchin and Martin paying crap also
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Fro what I can tell, Jackson was for the majority of the qtr, then Foley
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Who is on McLean???
You sound like the bloke sitting in front of me :laugh:
Probably is. You want a beer? :cheers
:lol at this rate going to need 10 :banghead
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Well well well. Our beloved captain gets hip and shouldered and no one goes in to remonstrate?
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absolutely disgraceful second quarter. absolutely shizen. reminds me of the st kilda last year or the year before that we won in a shootout. no defensive responsibility taken. just bulldust. players playing like millionaires. if we play like this we wont achieve anything in the finals. we arent good enough when we havent got the ball.
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Grimes isn't ready, needs another game or 2 in the 2s
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I'm off to the pub. There's no way I'm staying here if we lose I might kill one of these arrogant wog pricks.
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disgraceful
ESP from Cotchin not the leader he thinks he is
deledio trying much harder than he is
Foley pathetic
Martin sell him cash in
vlas Conca Ellis Jackson trying their history for us
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our players have been poo for 2 quarters. including the last half of last weeks game we have been poo for 4 quarters in a row. maybe there knackered.
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Playing their crap players back into form
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they should be there crap players the blooze are playing with there reserves almost. this is stuffen disgraceful.
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We have some good outs too Ramps.
However, they got us. Can't win from here.
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We have some good outs too Ramps.
However, they got us. Can't win from here.
losing to that scum makes me sick
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BUNCH OF USELESS idiots!
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stuffing pathetic
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how can you lose after finishing the 1st quarter 50-20 what a stuffen joke.
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Look at the urgency now stuffing poofs
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Good to see the germs getting on the score sheet too.
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Get stuffed
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they completely stuffed up my weekend idiots.
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Well this has ruined the weekend
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This was actually a good test coming before our finals tilt. Lessons learned: Grimes is not the Saviour. McGuane will let us down against good opposition. The sub needs to have pace. Petterd too injury prone. Matt White is more important to our side than most people appreciate....oh, and we are at our best when we play 'peddle-to-the-metal' football.
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Id rather have McBean instead of McGuane. Put the kid to Full Forward he is good on the lead. Put Jack to CHF. Vickery needs to ruck more. The donut isnt ready for the big stuff yet. Edwards of the Shed type needs to come in, wheres King? Theres 3 or 4 at least who from today should be dropped.
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Id rather have McBean instead of McGuane.
I think the Bean will be in next week after today's performance. A 2 and 1/2 prong attack is not enough. I thought 'donuts' did ok today for his first game - keep him in next week.
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Big mistake playing Grimes today.
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Simple case today of one team with something to prove and the other flat with their eye on finals. One week to refresh and the following week a dress rehearsal for finals. Feel we needed a loss to further impress upon the players the effort required week to week and the the performance level to be competitive in finals. A few players back next week and hopefully we'll be primed come September.
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Look s like the oldies can't retire
Tuck
Newman
King
We need them :-\
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Thought Tuck was extremely ordinary when he came on
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Got it a lot but
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Like the Swans game - there is little point getting the ball only to hand it to the opposition.
He'll just get whiplash watching it continually going back over his head.
I love Tucky but the way he is being managed isn't working for anyone.
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Thought we had a shocker at the selection table... An absolute shocker.
Why we would bring in a key defender and a medium defender for 2 runners is beyond me.. Really really poor.
We looked to have ran out of legs and when their mids flooded fwd we couldn't match them for agility when the ball hit the ground. If McLean is kicking 3 roving goals then you don't have the right structure in place defensively.
Horrible selections.. Stick to 3 Key defenders maximum.
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Theres no point complaining about tucky...you know what you get with him.......competitive in and under footy with long kicks to anyones guess where.Thats tuckys game,we know it ,the club knows it and his teammates know it
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Absolutely no surprise in today's result today
Sadly, no surprise at all ;D
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WP did you think we were going to lose prior to todays game?
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WP did you think we were going to lose prior to todays game?
I was extremely nervous going into this game, thought after making it last week, guaranteeing finals we faced a let down and we delivered.
Think also we flirted with form a bit. I know Newman has a sore ankle, White had really tight hamstring but if this was season on the line stuff I reckon Newman would have played, ditto Kingy
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Boys and Girls,
Are we really that slow? I believe the last 2 weeks we have looked like we didn't care at times. Thoughts?
Also what's go we have only kicked a 7 goals in the last 2 halves in the last 2 weeks?
Sorry just frustrated!!!
:gotigers
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Tuck does not really work as a sub. I just can't see the point of it.
McDonough looked a bit raw, he looks the type that needs games. He will not get as much overhead ball as he is used to.
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Just throwing it out there but are we going through a heavy training load to get ready for finals? Top 4 was never a realistic goal and once finals were assured after the hawks game, maybe the coaching staff decided it was best to prepare for finals - heavy training load for 3-4 weeks then taper off before finals.
Not looking for excuses but its interesting the way we've fallen away badly after halftime the past 2 weeks. Our leg speed has looked markedly slower too right across the board, I really noticed it with Lids, Martin, Houli today (they looked 'heavy'?) only Morris looks spritely but hes a unit.
I guess we'll know soon enough
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Just throwing it out there but are we going through a heavy training load to get ready for finals? Top 4 was never a realistic goal and once finals were assured after the hawks game, maybe the coaching staff decided it was best to prepare for finals - heavy training load for 3-4 weeks then taper off before finals.
Not looking for excuses but its interesting the way we've fallen away badly after halftime the past 2 weeks. Our leg speed has looked markedly slower too right across the board, I really noticed it with Lids, Martin, Houli today (they looked 'heavy'?) only Morris looks spritely but hes a unit.
I guess we'll know soon enough
Maybe so but why not beat the scum anyway. stuffing footscray beat them FFS!
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Just throwing it out there but are we going through a heavy training load to get ready for finals? Top 4 was never a realistic goal and once finals were assured after the hawks game, maybe the coaching staff decided it was best to prepare for finals - heavy training load for 3-4 weeks then taper off before finals.
Not looking for excuses but its interesting the way we've fallen away badly after halftime the past 2 weeks. Our leg speed has looked markedly slower too right across the board, I really noticed it with Lids, Martin, Houli today (they looked 'heavy'?) only Morris looks spritely but hes a unit.
I guess we'll know soon enough
Jacko said this is the case in Inside Tigerland. And I read that Newy had said we had a tough training session this morning. :lol
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Astbury for mine was a pass.
White has done some decent things but for mine is still is the 50/50 basket. Still not sold he is best 22.
Chaplin looked slow in contrast to the impressive Jamison
Of the remaining players that worried me before the match; mcgaune. Grigg. Pettard. Jackson were as expected sub par.
I fear we are not managing the list in the correct manner. Sure hope tony Mont. Is on the money
B: Morris, Rance, Astbury
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Petterd
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Jackson
HF: White, Martin, Ellis
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Deledio, Foley
IC: Tuck, Conca, Vlastuin, Grimes
Emerg: McDonough, Helbig, McBean
:pray :pray
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Tuck does not really work as a sub. I just can't see the point of it.
McDonough looked a bit raw, he looks the type that needs games. He will not get as much overhead ball as he is used to.
Tuck was perfect as a sub against Hawthorn as conditions suited him. Lamentably for Tucky on a fast track he has little impact the slower the track the better he is.
Missed White's pace today.
I think we have bee overlooked on the track in anticipation of finals.
I still expect us to finish in 5th spot and play Port in the first week of finals.
Disappointed about today yes, disastrous no but pees me off bc it's Carlton.
Thing is this if the roles were reversed and they were in the finals and we were in 9th place going in and playing for our lives and the quarter time score was in their favour they would have won by 12 goals and buried us our season and our hopes.
It seems no matter what we do against Carlton and Nought we just can't break the shackles.
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Thought we had a shocker at the selection table... An absolute shocker.
Why we would bring in a key defender and a medium defender for 2 runners is beyond me.. Really really poor.
We looked to have ran out of legs and when their mids flooded fwd we couldn't match them for agility when the ball hit the ground. If McLean is kicking 3 roving goals then you don't have the right structure in place defensively.
Horrible selections.. Stick to 3 Key defenders maximum.
Agree Popelord. We set up like we were playing Hawthorn again with their 4 tall forwards; not Carlton playing a small/mobile//midsized forward line around Waite and Casboult.
In the midfield we got smashed after 1/4 time and looked it we ran out of options to change to a more running side. We really missed Whitey, Titch and Kingy at ground level to break the lines and crumb goals.
Overall though, we still should have won. We just thought the game was won at 1/4 time and too many thought we could cruise and play millionaires footy. The signs were bad early in the 2nd qtr when we started lairising with the ball - needlessly overpossessing and handballing when we should have kicked. A couple of turnovers and Gibbs' dob from the boundary and the momentum had swung. The team learnt another lesson in not flirting with form and workrate otherwise you'll get your pants pulled down.
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Thought we had a shocker at the selection table... An absolute shocker.
Why we would bring in a key defender and a medium defender for 2 runners is beyond me.. Really really poor.
We looked to have ran out of legs and when their mids flooded fwd we couldn't match them for agility when the ball hit the ground. If McLean is kicking 3 roving goals then you don't have the right structure in place defensively.
Horrible selections.. Stick to 3 Key defenders maximum.
Agree Popelord. We set up like we were playing Hawthorn again with their 4 tall forwards; not Carlton playing a small/mobile//midsized forward line around Waite and Casboult.
In the midfield we got smashed after 1/4 time and looked it we ran out of options to change to a more running side. We really missed Whitey, Titch and Kingy at ground level to break the lines and crumb goals.
Overall though, we still should have won. We just thought the game was won at 1/4 time and too many thought we could cruise and play millionaires footy. The signs were bad early in the 2nd qtr when we started lairising with the ball - needlessly overpossessing and handballing when we should have kicked. A couple of turnovers and Gibbs' dob from the boundary and the momentum had swung. The team learnt another lesson in not flirting with form and workrate otherwise you'll get your pants pulled down.
Excellent summation MT.
But couldn't they learn that next week?
Why? Why? Why?
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Maybe so but why not beat the scum anyway. stuffing footscray beat them FFS!
Why bring up games from years ago?