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Tigers show interest in Carlton ruckman
By Jake Niall
The Age
Oct. 2, 2013
Richmond is interested in recruiting Carlton forward/ruckman Shaun Hampson, who will meet the Tigers soon.
Richmond has confirmed an interest in Hampson, whom the Tigers can see fitting a specific need for a forward who can also play in the ruck.
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Greater Western Sydney also has some interest in Hampson, who was unable to cement a regular position in Carlton's best 22 this year under Mick Malthouse, playing only six games, partly because of injury problems, but also because he had slipped to No.3 behind Matthew Kreuzer and Robbie Warnock among the Blues' big men.
The Tigers said on Tuesday evening that they would complete their ''due diligence'' on Hampson in the coming days as the AFL trade period begins. They want to do a medical on the 201-centimetre Hampson, who has had knee problems the past two seasons. GWS and Richmond have informed the Blues of their interest in Hampson.
Richmond has a tight salary cap, having just re-signed midfielder Dustin Martin.
Hampson is contracted for 2014 and while the Blues are willing to let him go, there would need to be what they consider fair compensation.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-show-interest-in-carlton-ruckman-20131001-2ur33.html
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:chuck
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7 million over 14 years.
Get it done Richmond >:(
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Geez wept
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Geez wept
Big Benny G is celebrating!
Can't be done over by Hampson again!
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A much better option than Stephenson. Still young and has a good leap and mark with good pace
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Pia Miller replaced by Megan Gale! :pray
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Richmond has confirmed an interest in Hampson, whom the Tigers can see fitting a specific need for a forward who can also play in the ruck.
Funny I thought we already had one of those types in Vickery
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I hope this is a joke
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Could be a pretty shrewd pick up by the tigers, clearly hasn't peaked yet in the right environment with some quality coaching and support , you just never know what he s capable of :shh
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I'd take Hampson as a back up, provided he comes cheaply. I think he has a fair bit of development in him.
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If he is cheap we at least have a back-up ruckman.
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I'd take Hampson as a back up, provided he comes cheaply. I think he has a fair bit of development in him.
So do I
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I'd take Hampson as a back up, provided he comes cheaply. I think he has a fair bit of development in him.
He's contracted and on reasonable coin for a 2nd stringer
Would want Carlton to absorb some of the remaining $$$ on his contract
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No Deal!
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How old is he?
I would back this recruitment.
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How old is he? I've always liked him, but uh, what will happen to Vickery? Maric, Stephenson and Vickery never all played in the same team, did they?
Vickery as third tall?
I recon he is a good get, knee issues are worrying.
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Do we need another plank who is no good below his knees? We need an agile Ruckman like Ryder. I think the future is quicker, shorter ruckman that possess an elite vertical leap. Slow planky tap ruckman will be the next AFL dinosaurs.
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just no
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Carlton Recruiting Manager:
Rogers: Richmond has shown the most interest (in Shaun Hampson). We've had some interest from other clubs
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Carlton Recruiting Manager:
Rogers: Richmond has shown the most interest (in Shaun Hampson). We've had some interest from other clubs
Richmond: "Hmmmm.....meh"
Other clubs: "meh"
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This discussion is starting to read like the thread regarding the recruitment of Maric.... :whistle
We all know the end result to that story.
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Has more of a Trent Knobel feel
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Has more of a Trent Knobel feel
Hampson is better now than Knobel ever was.
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Only against Richmond
Doesn't do a lot vs good teams
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if they think he can do the job required then get him
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Do we need another plank who is no good below his knees? We need an agile Ruckman like Ryder. I think the future is quicker, shorter ruckman that possess an elite vertical leap. Slow planky tap ruckman will be the next AFL dinosaurs.
I don't know how bad his knee(s) are, but one of his strengths is his speed and agility for a big man. Is not a 3rd fwd type, is definitely a ruckman first. Can only recall one opportunity in his career where hes had a decent run at 1st ruck and did quite well.
He's 25 turning 26 march next season
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Can't kick a set shot to save his life but a pretty decent overhead mark and is athletic for a big bloke. Wouldn't mind him but what would the asking price be? Probably too much if he's contracted.
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I'm prepared to give up Steven Verrier
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stuffing hell Gerks, ease up, don't go plonking your max offer down straight out like that, low ball em first then work up to it.
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stuffing hell Gerks, ease up, don't go plonking your max offer down straight out like that, low ball em first then work up to it.
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:lol
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lol you had that sitting there on the side waiting TIga?
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lol you had that sitting there on the side waiting TIga?
Owl, I pretty much have something squirreled away for all occasions. My Hard drive looks like Steptoe and Son's Back Yard but I can assure you the Golden Owl came off the same shelf that holds the Chivas Regal! ;D
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love the gif tiga :lol
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love the gif tiga :lol
Thanks Tony :thumbsup Not sure if you have seen the full clip I ripped it from but it is YouTube Gold!! The guy laughing on it is awesome.
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love the gif tiga :lol
Thanks Tony :thumbsup Not sure if you have seen the full clip I ripped it from but it is YouTube Gold!! The guy laughing on it is awesome.
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:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Thinking about the McMahon trade for pick 19. Terry Wallace on the left, Francis Jackson on the right
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I think we should go for Hampson if we can get him cheap and the Doctor report is favourable.
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Thinking about the McMahon trade for pick 19. Terry Wallace on the left, Francis Jackson on the right
Francis Jackson had no say in that trade, Jackson has no say in any trades.
If it was up to Jackson we wouldn't have traded for McMahon.
Wallace wanted McMahon, Miller did the deal
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Need to remember that Maric was coming from even further back, in footy circles, Lade is known as the ruck whisperer and under his tutelage he improved Maric from a two bit broken down bum floundering in the sanfl to one of the hottest tickets in town finishing top 3 in bf.
Hampson has something to work with and can take a grab just quietly, remember R1 he was clutching marks like I handle a melon :shh
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Would rather bring back Justin Charles out of retirement
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Would rather bring back Justin Charles out of retirement
:lol
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If he is cheap we at least have a back-up ruckman.
I'd take Megan first!!
Not sure if he is the answer, he only played 6 games this year, if he were any good Mick would have played him more surely? Bad knees.....
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Has more of a Trent Knobel feel
Hampson is better now than Knobel ever was.
not as a ruckman he aint.
what the stuff is going on down there.
we need a bona fide ruckman and a bona fide kpf. hampson is neither. you just dont get what you need from him as a ruckman and you dont get what you need as a forward. hes an even poorer version of vickery except hes been around 2 yrs longer.
why not ask about robert warnock insted.
geez hampson a tall forward who doesnt take marks or kick goals a ruckman who doesnt win many ruck contests. if this is all hartley can come up with its time to get a new man in the role.
why cant we go and get a pure ruckman and go and get a pure kpf. why do we always hedge our bets when it comes to talls.
elton vickery and mcbean are all hampson types. why.
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#KomeHomeKruzer
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remember R1 he was clutching marks like I handle a melon :shh
Was that a subtle Megan Gale reference Bo?
Just on that Round 1 game, he took a few grabs but I wasn't convinced, honestly looked to me that he was accidentally marking them. He still marks with his arms a little bit twisted like a gangly unco school kid. He was never able to maintain that 'form' and was put where he belongs in the reserves.
Would rather extend O for another year, at least you get something in the ruck.
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Agree with dc on those points. We already have big o why replace him with a lesser player?
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Thinking about the McMahon trade for pick 19. Terry Wallace on the left, Francis Jackson on the right
Francis Jackson had no say in that trade, Jackson has no say in any trades.
If it was up to Jackson we wouldn't have traded for McMahon.
Wallace wanted McMahon, Miller did the deal
That was my point WP.
In the image Wallace is sitting there dreaming about McMahon being this great get while Francis is going nuts about losing the pick that he wanted to use on Selwood.
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While the other clubs pickup proven stars and up and coming guns we are looking at Shane Hampton.
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
Is he an upgrade on Big O too ?
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I'd rather if Megan Played.Least Jackson couldn't miss hitting her on the chest.
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
Is he an upgrade on Big O too ?
He is certainly more athletic and younger. I trust Blair to get it right - had far more hits than misses over his career. If we can upgrade every bottom 22 player on our list we will improve immensely.
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
Is he an upgrade on Big O too ?
He is certainly more athletic and younger. I trust Blair to get it right - had far more hits than misses over his career. If we can upgrade every bottom 22 player on our list we will improve immensely.
Big o is better
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
Is he an upgrade on Big O too ?
He is certainly more athletic and younger. I trust Blair to get it right - had far more hits than misses over his career. If we can upgrade every bottom 22 player on our list we will improve immensely.
Big o is better
No argument there but Hampson is still an upgrade of Derrickx and the big O is well on the wrong side of 30 too.
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He is an upgrade on Derrickx. Wont cost much.
Is he an upgrade on Big O too ?
He is certainly more athletic and younger. I trust Blair to get it right - had far more hits than misses over his career. If we can upgrade every bottom 22 player on our list we will improve immensely.
Big o is better
No argument there but Hampson is still an upgrade of Derrickx and the big O is well on the wrong side of 30 too.
Do not want. Keep big o over this hack
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haha big O is better than hampson, now Ive heard it all.
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haha big O is better than hampson, now Ive heard it all.
As a ruckman he probably is.
Really disgusted at the anti T-Bone Knobel posts. Brilliant tap ruckman. Bag him when you play every game in a season for a top 4 club coached by a legend ;D
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I'm hearing Hampson is now being packaged up with Robinson and Yaran to GWS for pick 1 and Adams LMFAO!!!
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I'm hearing Hampson is now being packaged up with Robinson and Yaran to GWS for pick 1 and Adams LMFAO!!!
the things you read on the men's room wall at minda home
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I'm hearing Hampson is now being packaged up with Robinson and Yaran to GWS for pick 1 and Adams LMFAO!!!
the things you read on the men's room wall at minda home
Dude it's fact, I'm happy to pass on the numbers that were etched into the wall under it!!
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please do, coach has switched his phone off and I need some things
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Thought about this and blair hartley needs to stop shopping in op shops and brotherhood bins. Hampson isnt up to it. It will be a complete waste of money. I called the McMahon trade a dud the day it happened and even put up a thread saying the board should Veto that move, they should have taken the logical step and stopped the stupidity from happening. Now its the same. Richmond dont need this player and he will just take up salary cap and list space. NO NO NO.
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Thought about this and blair hartley needs to stop shopping in op shops and brotherhood bins. Hampson isnt up to it. It will be a complete waste of money.
Correct, we can bolster our VFL team with a lot cheaper players than Hampson.
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club needs to be responsible with the members money. they shouldnt be going around offering big contracts to players like Hampson. Its a complete waste of members money.
QUALITY PLEASE
not quantity.
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club needs to be responsible with the members money. they shouldnt be going around offering big contracts to players like Hampson. Its a complete waste of members money.
QUALITY PLEASE
not quantity.
Ramps, are you aware that we are putting a big contract under Hampsons nose?
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club needs to be responsible with the members money. they shouldnt be going around offering big contracts to players like Hampson. Its a complete waste of members money.
QUALITY PLEASE
not quantity.
Agree. Bloke's an absolute hack.
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Hawthorn is also reportedly keen on out-of-favour Carlton big man Shaun Hampson.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-06/trade-winds-sunday
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Hawthorn is also reportedly keen on out-of-favour Carlton big man Shaun Hampson.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-06/trade-winds-sunday
surely not, hes an absolute hack and not the type of player Richmond let alone hawthorn should be chasing
::)
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Hawthorn is also reportedly keen on out-of-favour Carlton big man Shaun Hampson.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-06/trade-winds-sunday
surely not, hes an absolute hack and not the type of player Richmond let alone hawthorn should be chasing
:lol
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Channel 7 saying Hampson for second round pick!!! Confirming tomorrow.....
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Ch7 reporting that Hampson definitely coming to Tigerland for a 2nd round draft pick
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Channel 7 saying Hampson for second round pick!!! Confirming tomorrow.....
did they say which club hes going to gp?
edit: missed your post WP, chers
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Channel 7 saying Hampson for second round pick!!! Confirming tomorrow.....
second round pick in the SANFL perhaps.
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Ch7 reporting that Hampson definitely coming to Tigerland for a 2nd round draft pick
Seems a little over the top?
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
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Ch7 reporting that Hampson definitely coming to Tigerland for a 2nd round draft pick
Seems a little over the top?
a bit, hopefully theres been a downgrade/exchange of picks somewhere along the lines
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If we have given carlton a 2nd round pick without atleast getting their 2nd round pick back then Hartley has lost the plot and we are going downhill again. What a complete stuffing waste of money and a pick. Just flushing draft picks down the dunny now. :banghead
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Settle down and don't lose your head, we ll bet 2 round compo for whitey, no problem
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Settle down and don't lose your head, we ll bet 2 round compo for whitey, no problem
No, we won't.
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
he's done well
without Houli, Grigg, Maric and Chaplin we'd still be poo, and has given away stuff all for them
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
he's done well
without Houli, Grigg, Maric and Chaplin we'd still be poo, and has given away stuff all for them
Houli and Grigg were recruited by him? Only one of those players plays a big part in why we're a better side. The other 3 are more than replaceable
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And I'm not bagging Hartley, just taking the pee out of Bojangles for lapping up every player we're linked with
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Ch7 reporting that Hampson definitely coming to Tigerland for a 2nd round draft pick
Seems a little over the top?
That's what they reported
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
he's done well
without Houli, Grigg, Maric and Chaplin we'd still be poo, and has given away stuff all for them
Houli and Grigg were recruited by him? Only one of those players plays a big part in why we're a better side. The other 3 are more than replaceable
They were identified by him yes.. and if they're easily replaceable then lets replace them, whats the hold up?
edit: gotchya :shh
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Ok, offload Houli and get Shaw. Replace Grigg with a cardboard cut out of Greg Tivendale and trade Chaplin for a mars bar.
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In a one on one contest between the cardboard cut out and Grigg,I'd back the "cut out" to win hands down.
And in a pre season triathlon the "cut out" would win the swim leg easily against grigg
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In a one on one contest between the cardboard cut out and Grigg,I'd back the "cut out" to win hands down.
And in a pre season triathlon the "cut out" would win the swim leg easily against grigg
:thumbsup
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
he's done well
without Houli, Grigg, Maric and Chaplin we'd still be poo, and has given away stuff all for them
yeah and we got embarrased by the blues in our first final in 10 years.
we want flags at the RFC not 6-10 skata finishes.
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just the player we needed. This will make a huge difference to the team with Hampson playing beside Maric. His a very mobile athletic ruckman. Now we can leave Vickery to concentrate on being a forward. :clapping
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Another Blair Hartley coup :clapping
he's done well
without Houli, Grigg, Maric and Chaplin we'd still be poo, and has given away stuff all for them
yeah and we got embarrased by the blues in our first final in 10 years.
we want flags at the RFC not 6-10 skata finishes.
Really? wow
without them we wouldn't have even got there
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just the player we needed. This will make a huge difference to the team with Hampson playing beside Maric. His a very mobile athletic ruckman. Now we can leave Vickery to concentrate on being a forward. :clapping
average player thats all. paying a 2nd round draft pick is too much for this bloke.
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just the player we needed. This will make a huge difference to the team with Hampson playing beside Maric. His a very mobile athletic ruckman. Now we can leave Vickery to concentrate on being a forward. :clapping
you being serious Monk? I hope this is all crap i really do.
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Hope Richmond have done a medical on his knees ;)
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just the player we needed. This will make a huge difference to the team with Hampson playing beside Maric. His a very mobile athletic ruckman. Now we can leave Vickery to concentrate on being a forward. :clapping
average player thats all. paying a 2nd round draft pick is too much for this bloke.
he might be average at Carlscum, But going to a new club being wanted just might be the thing he needs.
Maric was just average at Adelaide also. Look how we have broken him down. We need this Ruckman this coming season
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agree Monk, high priority
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If we got back a 2nd round pick or even a 3rd round pick Id say fair enough risk. Giving those bastards a 2nd round pick for Hampson is a no IMHO. Its way over the odds.
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just the player we needed. This will make a huge difference to the team with Hampson playing beside Maric. His a very mobile athletic ruckman. Now we can leave Vickery to concentrate on being a forward. :clapping
you being serious Monk? I hope this is all crap i really do.
no l'm serious, If he turns into a Griffiths then shoot me then ;D
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Carlton want a second rounder which says to me his worth a third rounder.
Gunston was a second rounder FFS
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Carlton want a second rounder which says to me his worth a third rounder.
Gunston was a second rounder FFS
Hampson at best is a late 3rd round pick and I reckon if we waited 1 year we would get him for free after Carlton delisted him next year. Complete waste of a good draft pick IMHO. Carlton just getting even after we dudded em on Collins. Also query on Hampson and his knee I understand.
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So what are the options gramps, billy "2 kick " Longer Yeah he d be a great replacement for Maric if required ::)
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l have watched him in the VFL & his very good tap. Nothing like Ottens :lol
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second rounder is just too much. Maric wasnt given a chance at the crows but this bloke has been given ample opportunities and he has failed.
He is one of the worst ruckman i have seen in the league and an absolute disgrace if we drop a second rounder for him.
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I want Jackstars opinion on this, he is the expert on ruckmen after all
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whats going on at Richmond is that it seems that some people feel the need to justify their jobs and there just recruiting 3rd rate players and giving away good draft picks just so they can say they did something when the best thing they can do is just get in 1 decent quality player and take kids in the draft. Every year we will bring in crap and we will go backwards because they feel they need to do it to justify their job roles.
There aint gonna no Premierships recruiting like this in 2014 or anytime soon.
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I want Jackstars opinion on this, he is the expert on ruckmen after all
Oh Dear
By the way .Ivan didn't finish in top 10 in B&F
Club obviously what's another ruck man with the signing of Hampson
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this blokes had knee injuries on a regular basis from memory. Did Richmond do a medical?
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Nothing is confirmed yet & no-one knows the deal so let wait till the deal is done :thumbsup
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I want Jackstars opinion on this, he is the expert on ruckmen after all
Oh Dear
By the way .Ivan didn't finish in top 10 in B&F
Club obviously what's another ruck man with the signing of Hampson
Thank You
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Channel 7 saying Hampson for second round pick!!! Confirming tomorrow.....
It's silly season, surely this can't be true.
Our 2nd rd pick this year needs to end up playing 22+ games a year for the tiges not 6.
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Gee whiz, if we get Hampson the wogs will be unbearable for the next 6 months.
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Get Hampson!
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Gee whiz, if we get Hampson the wogs will be unbearable for the next 6 months.
this wog will be happy vre
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BREAKING NEWS:
Carlton's Shaun Hampson is set to join Richmond tomorrow. It is understood that Richmond will give up there 2nd round pick for Hampson.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/AFL-Draft-News-Trade-News-and-Gossip/278623632170146
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BREAKING NEWS:
Carlton's Shaun Hampson is set to join Richmond tomorrow. It is understood that Richmond will give up there 2nd round pick for Hampson.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/AFL-Draft-News-Trade-News-and-Gossip/278623632170146
Old news Mr OE
Was the lead sports story on Ch7 tonight ;D
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BREAKING NEWS:
Carlton's Shaun Hampson is set to join Richmond tomorrow. It is understood that Richmond will give up there 2nd round pick for Hampson.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/AFL-Draft-News-Trade-News-and-Gossip/278623632170146
This would be a travesty!!! Wast of second round pick IMO.
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Not sure I am happy giving up a second round pick but hey, time will tell. He is only young and if he can stay injury free who knows..
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At freaking worst we should use our compo pick whatever it maybe. I'm happy to get Hampson but there's no way in a pink fit is he worth our second rounder :banghead
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this blokes had knee injuries on a regular basis from memory. Did Richmond do a medical?
Ooh no of course not :lol, patella is nothing compared a full on knee reco, like comparing a rolled ankle to a broken leg. He ll be well into the last trimester of his rehab as we speak :shh
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That's the thing Loui. Happy to use a third rounder if worse comes to worse but second. Really!!
People here dont watch enough footy obviously if they think he is worth that.
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Geez Harold Geez on a unicycle is Greg Miller back?
A second rounder for Hampson is ludicrous and would be incompetent list management of the highest order.
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As well as that it gives the Blues consecutive picks in the 20's, don't like that either.
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Whoa, Blair does it again!
Get Hampson under the tutelage of McQualter and we've got ourselves the 2014 AA ruckman. :shh
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With big penny steering the ship :clapping
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Would at least be on par with the McMahon for pick 19 trade.
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Our second round pick is currently pick 28.
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Our second round pick is currently pick 28.
Hampson is NOT worth that
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CARLTON ruckman Shaun Hampson could be one of the first players to find a new home when the Gillette AFL Trade Period commences on Monday morning, with Richmond making a concerted play for the big Blue.
Hampson is contracted for next season but AFL.com.au understands Richmond has expressed strong interest in the 25-year-old, keen to provide more support for No.1 ruckman Ivan Maric.
Hampson is believed to be weighing up a new start at Punt Road, having fallen behind Robert Warnock in Carlton's ruck pecking order in the second half of 2013.
Maric has carried lingering groin problems through the past two seasons as he has shouldered the bulk of the Tigers' ruck load, but Hampson could help ease that burden.
However, the Tigers might face competition in brokering a trade for Hampson, with Hawthorn also reportedly keen on the Blue.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-06/trade-wrap-sunday
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Hawthorn can have him. We'll take Longer!
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Ch7 saying Hawks got Longer and Hampson going to us
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Ch7 saying Hawks got Longer and Hampson going to us
Hawks are only going to pay pick 18 or something for longer as well. We have well and truly been dudded on this deal for Hampson. Its as bad as the McMahon trade.
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I still think picking up Hampson is a good move, for pick 28 well I am undecided :-\.
How good would our recruiters have to be to pick up a champ or a comparative player to Hampson at pick 28? What pick was JON, Patterson, Myer etc.? I know there have been gems picked up at 28 and after but they are few and far between when looking at the amount of players that did not make it at that pick.
I don't want to give up pick 28 but if Hampson works out as Maric has then we wont ever raise this issue again.
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WAT go watch the clip of Hampsons games then make your decision. He is a late pick and nothing less. Pick 28 is vital for our development and future and this pick should be used to a three way deal to land quality like Adams involving a third club perhaps. Hawks picked up Gibson and Gunston around this mark now that's what I call like for like, not some d grade hack.
As Ramps suggested too hawks coughing up pick 18 for longer yet we may pay 28 for hampson. :banghead :banghead :santa. It's farcical.
He was given plenty of opportunities and failed. Levi Cas and spud Warnock are now ahead of him and that enough is a cause for concern.
At least the crows had Jacobs who was a great ruckman then ahead of Maric.
I wouldn't compare the 2 ruckman.
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No way we will give up pick 28 for this turd. :lol
It's jut not logical!
Hampson is no better than Big O. Infact if it were up to me, I would have played Big O in front of Ivan in the final just on form.
Big O's tap work is far superior than Ivan's.
Big O can do the back up roll at least for another year until we can make a decent trade for a Mumford type.
If you are going to trade for a ruckman at least make sure the ruckman is half decent.
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WAT go watch the clip of Hampsons games then make your decision. He is a late pick and nothing less. Pick 28 is vital for our development and future and this pick should be used to a three way deal to land quality like Adams involving a third club perhaps. Hawks picked up Gibson and Gunston around this mark now that's what I call like for like, not some d grade hack.
As Ramps suggested too hawks coughing up pick 18 for longer yet we may pay 28 for hampson. :banghead :banghead :santa. It's farcical.
He was given plenty of opportunities and failed. Levi Cas and spud Warnock are now ahead of him and that enough is a cause for concern.
At least the crows had Jacobs who was a great ruckman then ahead of Maric.
I wouldn't compare the 2 ruckman.
I do agree with what you are saying Daniel but at the end of the day we will not be making the decision. Our problem is and has been during trade and FA, we are not aggressive enough and never have been. We are not prepared to fight other clubs for players of worth and we are not prepared to give up players like Edwards, Foley etc... so we can pick up the better than average players.
So until we get a bit of mongrel about us during this period we have to accept what the club is doing, otherwise I will meet you at the Story Bridge in Brissy and we can jump together.. ;D
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I thought some of you guys would be excited at the possibility of having Megan Gale follow the Tigers
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I thought some of you guys would be excited at the possibility of having Megan Gale follow the Tigers
She would be a better .uck than Hampson.. ;D ;D ;D
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I thought some of you guys would be excited at the possibility of having Megan Gale follow the Tigers
agree Julz
I thought this trade would at least be greeted with the same enthusiasm as the rookie drafting of Brad Miller ;D
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WAT go watch the clip of Hampsons games then make your decision. He is a late pick and nothing less. Pick 28 is vital for our development and future and this pick should be used to a three way deal to land quality like Adams involving a third club perhaps. Hawks picked up Gibson and Gunston around this mark now that's what I call like for like, not some d grade hack.
As Ramps suggested too hawks coughing up pick 18 for longer yet we may pay 28 for hampson. :banghead :banghead :santa. It's farcical.
He was given plenty of opportunities and failed. Levi Cas and spud Warnock are now ahead of him and that enough is a cause for concern.
At least the crows had Jacobs who was a great ruckman then ahead of Maric.
I wouldn't compare the 2 ruckman.
I do agree with what you are saying Daniel but at the end of the day we will not be making the decision. Our problem is and has been during trade and FA, we are not aggressive enough and never have been. We are not prepared to fight other clubs for players of worth and we are not prepared to give up players like Edwards, Foley etc... so we can pick up the better than average players.
So until we get a bit of mongrel about us during this period we have to accept what the club is doing, otherwise I will meet you at the Story Bridge in Brissy and we can jump together.. ;D
WAT, I understand where your coming from but surely you can't expect to offer up players like these and get something better in return? Other clubs just aren't that stupid. Even when mixed in with a draft pick its still not that enticing and it's not as if other clubs are knocking to door down to try and prior these players away from us.
The best we can hope for is in a couple of years from now we have players like Elton, McBean and Griffiths all fighting for a spot in the side with VFL form to warrant it, maybe then we will we might start seeing a little interest from other clubs wanting to part with decent players or better picks to have a crack at some of our un used talent :pray
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WAT go watch the clip of Hampsons games then make your decision. He is a late pick and nothing less. Pick 28 is vital for our development and future and this pick should be used to a three way deal to land quality like Adams involving a third club perhaps. Hawks picked up Gibson and Gunston around this mark now that's what I call like for like, not some d grade hack.
As Ramps suggested too hawks coughing up pick 18 for longer yet we may pay 28 for hampson. :banghead :banghead :santa. It's farcical.
He was given plenty of opportunities and failed. Levi Cas and spud Warnock are now ahead of him and that enough is a cause for concern.
At least the crows had Jacobs who was a great ruckman then ahead of Maric.
I wouldn't compare the 2 ruckman.
I do agree with what you are saying Daniel but at the end of the day we will not be making the decision. Our problem is and has been during trade and FA, we are not aggressive enough and never have been. We are not prepared to fight other clubs for players of worth and we are not prepared to give up players like Edwards, Foley etc... so we can pick up the better than average players.
So until we get a bit of mongrel about us during this period we have to accept what the club is doing, otherwise I will meet you at the Story Bridge in Brissy and we can jump together.. ;D
WAT, I understand where your coming from but surely you can't expect to offer up players like these and get something better in return? Other clubs just aren't that stupid. Even when mixed in with a draft pick its still not that enticing and it's not as if other clubs are knocking to door down to try and prior these players away from us.
The best we can hope for is in a couple of years from now we have players like Elton, McBean and Griffiths all fighting for a spot in the side with VFL form to warrant it, maybe then we will we might start seeing a little interest from other clubs wanting to part with decent players or better picks to have a crack at some of our un used talent :pray
Yeah I know, its just wishful thinking on my part that clubs would be interested in these players... :-\
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WAT go watch the clip of Hampsons games then make your decision. He is a late pick and nothing less. Pick 28 is vital for our development and future and this pick should be used to a three way deal to land quality like Adams involving a third club perhaps. Hawks picked up Gibson and Gunston around this mark now that's what I call like for like, not some d grade hack.
As Ramps suggested too hawks coughing up pick 18 for longer yet we may pay 28 for hampson. :banghead :banghead :santa. It's farcical.
He was given plenty of opportunities and failed. Levi Cas and spud Warnock are now ahead of him and that enough is a cause for concern.
At least the crows had Jacobs who was a great ruckman then ahead of Maric.
I wouldn't compare the 2 ruckman.
I do agree with what you are saying Daniel but at the end of the day we will not be making the decision. Our problem is and has been during trade and FA, we are not aggressive enough and never have been. We are not prepared to fight other clubs for players of worth and we are not prepared to give up players like Edwards, Foley etc... so we can pick up the better than average players.
So until we get a bit of mongrel about us during this period we have to accept what the club is doing, otherwise I will meet you at the Story Bridge in Brissy and we can jump together.. ;D
WAT, I understand where your coming from but surely you can't expect to offer up players like these and get something better in return? Other clubs just aren't that stupid. Even when mixed in with a draft pick its still not that enticing and it's not as if other clubs are knocking to door down to try and prior these players away from us.
The best we can hope for is in a couple of years from now we have players like Elton, McBean and Griffiths all fighting for a spot in the side with VFL form to warrant it, maybe then we will we might start seeing a little interest from other clubs wanting to part with decent players or better picks to have a crack at some of our un used talent :pray
Yeah I know, its just wishful thinking on my part that clubs would be interested in these players... :-\
I'm hearing ya :thumbsup
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I'm going to put my nurries on the line and back this one in. We have the worst ruck stocks in the comp and this for an athletic ruck that's ready to go for a pick in the ball park that we're likely to get a couple back in. Just calm your teets yo.
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Would think once the dust settles ;D that if he ends up costing our compo pick that we receive for either McGuane or White then in actually fact it hasn't cost us much at all
Let's see what compo we get first and then panic, rant or blow a "woofer" valve ;D
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Would think once the dust settles ;D that if he ends up costing our compo pick that we receive for either McGuane or White then in actually fact it hasn't cost us much at all
Let's see what compo we get first and then panic, rant or blow a "woofer" valve ;D
I reckon you will find there will be incessant moaning, open letters of protest, jazz hands and all sorts regardless. ;D
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Yeah I will back him in too!!!
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Is it done yet ?
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Who would have thought that a straight swap for Mcguane would have caused this much angst 12mnths ago.
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I think he's worth pick 28. Still young enough to develop into a beast with a good 5-7 years left in him
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Longer would have cost a fair bit more, dont even think the hawks first pick will be enough to get longer, they'll need to sweeten the deal. Hampson was serviceable in the ruck when Kruzer went down. Reckon he'll do ok
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No way we will give up pick 28 for this turd. :lol
It's jut not logical!
Hampson is no better than Big O. Infact if it were up to me, I would have played Big O in front of Ivan in the final just on form.
Big O's tap work is far superior than Ivan's.
Big O can do the back up roll at least for another year until we can make a decent trade for a Mumford type.
If you are going to trade for a ruckman at least make sure the ruckman is half decent.
Pick 31 when compo picks are added. It's done. Big O can't play 2 games straight. Looks like he's still hunched over from the previous week.
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Would think once the dust settles ;D that if he ends up costing our compo pick that we receive for either McGuane or White then in actually fact it hasn't cost us much at all
Let's see what compo we get first and then panic, rant or blow a "woofer" valve ;D
I reckon you will find there will be incessant moaning, open letters of protest, jazz hands and all sorts regardless. ;D
:clapping I'm off to play some GTA as soon as this is confirmed. :banghead
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Who would have thought that a straight swap for Mcguane would have caused this much angst 12mnths ago.
IDE take a straight swap for Mcguane but our second round pick is highway Robbery!!!
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Who would have thought that a straight swap for Mcguane would have caused this much angst 12mnths ago.
IDE take a straight swap for Mcguane but our second round pick is highway Robbery!!!
Not if the pick we given them ends up being one of our compo picks ;D
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Who would have thought that a straight swap for Mcguane would have caused this much angst 12mnths ago.
IDE take a straight swap for Mcguane but our second round pick is highway Robbery!!!
Not if the pick we given them ends up being one of our compo picks ;D
Yeah sorry, I should have said pick 28 (as it stands now) they can have the compo pick just not our first second rounder ;)
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My hope is;
Pick up Hampson with pick 28 and gain an earlier pick for McGuane or White.
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My hope is;
Pick up Hampson with pick 28 and gain an earlier pick for McGuane or White.
Doubt we'll get any picks for either.
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My hope is;
Pick up Hampson with pick 28 and gain an earlier pick for McGuane or White.
Doubt we'll get any picks for either.
Compo picks.. :huh
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My hope is;
Pick up Hampson with pick 28 and gain an earlier pick for McGuane or White.
Doubt we'll get any picks for either.
Disagree
reckon we may end up with 1 pick for the 2 of them but we will get something
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My hope is;
Pick up Hampson with pick 28 and gain an earlier pick for McGuane or White.
Doubt we'll get any picks for either.
Disagree
reckon we may end up with 1 pick for the 2 of them but we will get something
Gee I wish you had your words "1 pick" back to front... ;D
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Who would have thought that a straight swap for Mcguane would have caused this much angst 12mnths ago.
IDE take a straight swap for Mcguane but our second round pick is highway Robbery!!!
Not if the pick we given them ends up being one of our compo picks ;D
Now that makes more sense - a 2nd round compo pick which is basically the beginning of the 3rd round for Shaun Hampson makes more sense.
Pick 11/12 and pick 28 should be used to pick up under age talent or Taylor Adams.
At 25, it would be difficult to see him making more improvement but its happened before to Ruckman.
I'd like to see Chappy picked up as a free agent and then we land 2 mature aged recruits and probably 4 kids with our national draft picks.
Means we de-list the Big Zero,O'Hanlon, Nahas and 1 other? with White, McGuane and possibly Astbury traded or leaving for free agency.
Although he has re-signed I wouldn't be surprised to see Griffiths traded if the Saints coughed up an exchange of a 1st rounder or 2nd rounder outright.
Unlikely but not out of the question.
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Would think once the dust settles ;D that if he ends up costing our compo pick that we receive for either McGuane or White then in actually fact it hasn't cost us much at all
Let's see what compo we get first and then panic, rant or blow a "woofer" valve ;D
Pretty sure we wont get a compo for McGuane and White but rather one bundled together
Edit: Just saw you said that in a later post :)
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Why hasn't this been done yet?
I want a personal apology from Ch7
And RFC :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Why hasn't this been done yet?
I want a personal apology from Ch7
And RFC :banghead :banghead :banghead
Same reason as Tybone wasn't given his dreamtime medal in May
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2.17pm: The latest on Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson via Trade Radio.
Hampson's manager Michael Quinlan says Hampson is keen to get to Richmond if a good deal can be done.
There is no animosity between Hampson and Carlton.
He's still contracted for another year but according to Quinlan Richmond are very interested in Hampson, he is open to moving to the Tigers and the Blues are compliant in the process at present.
Sounds like it's becoming unlikely he'll head to Hawthorn - which is also in need of a ruckman - if he leaves Carlton at all.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade-period/trade-radio
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Latest from the HUN (ED: seems like it's a slow day at HQ down at Docklands ;D)
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Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson wants to be traded to Richmond
by: Al Paton
•From: Herald Sun
•October 07, 2013 2:29PM
A DEAL to send Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson to Richmond could be completed within days.
The 201cm ruck-forward is set to provide badly needed back-up for Tigers big man Ivan Maric.
Hampson, 25, has played 63 matches at the Blues but failed to crack the senior team after playing in six of the first seven games this year.
He is behind Matthew Kreuzer and Matthew Warnock in the Blues' ruck pecking order and manager Michael Quinlan said today Hampson is keen for greater opportunities.
"We have been in discussions with the Richmond Football Club," Quinlan told Trade Radio.
"He is contracted for another year at Carlton but if he was to be traded that's the destination he would choose and I'm hopeful something will be completed sooner rather than later.
"Carlton are fairly open minded about it too which suggests maybe it's a good move for him.
"If he was able to secure a longer-term deal at Richmond with a bigger role to play then that's maybe something he should do."
Quinlan said Carlton was working to get the best deal for Hampson.
"I want to make it clear there is no negativity coming from Shaun or Carlton towards each other.
"How many ruckmen have they got at Carlton? They've got three established and two coming through - there's a number of ruck options there and Richmond is the one saying they would like him."
The Tigers may have to part with their second-round draft pick (currently No.28) to get the deal done.
Quinlan said he wasn't talking to any other clubs about Hampson.
Hawthorn, which has been mentioned as a possible suitor, has its sights firmly set on young Brisbane ruckman Billy Longer.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-ruckman-shaun-hampson-wants-to-be-traded-to-richmond/story-fn69a32t-1226734180597
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Quinlan: We've been in discussions with Richmond. He's (Hampson) contracted but if he was to leave that would be the destination.
Hampson: Carlton are fairly open minded which suggests it could be a good move for him to make.
Quinlan: If he was able to secure a longer term deal with a bigger role, maybe that's the way he should go. A bit of both (ruck/fwd role)
Quinlan: The development at Richmond is fantastic. Mark Williams, Brendan Lade and Damien (Hardwick).
Appears Hawthorn is out of the race for Shaun Hampson. His manager Michael Quinlan has told us it's Richmond if he's to leave Carlton
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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I'm starting to form the opinion that draft picks in general are over rated, and am convinced that when it comes to trading, the value draft picks after the first round are overrated by most people.
There is very little difference in the success rate between 2nd and 3rd rounders, although that is not a good way to look at picks, as there is a spread of 18 picks for one round. better of to look at what number pick it is, rather than what round.
This year our 2nd and 3rd picks are 28 and 46.
In the 6 years to 2005, the success rate in getting a 100 game player from picks 20-30 was 25% and for for picks 40-50 was 35%.
These figures are slightly twisted due to an anomaly in 2003 where no players in the 20-30 group went on to forge a half decent career, and 7 in the other group did. allowing for that, the success rate is very similar.
I'm a no sure of the value of comparing the average number of games played, but for these groups up to 2005 it was 30 and 24 respectively.
Either way, you are not giving up much to trade these picks.
On another note, If hampson comes then its curtains for the big O
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Say hello to your soon-to-be recruit, Richmond Fans. Shaun Hampson is set to land at the Tigers today as the trade period kicks off for Richmond's second round selection.
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Terry Wallace believes that if Richmond had to chose between Shaun Hampson and Paul Chapman, Wallace believes that structure-wise, the Tigers must go with Hampson given he is young, fit and could benefit hugely from the development coaches who have turned the likes of Grigg and Maric into consistent players.
Richmond fans - who would you rather; Chapman or Hampson?
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Stench of "locked and loaded" all over this.
Carlton bend us over three times in two months.
Disgusted.
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Issue for mine with him coming is its looking like it'll have to be pick 28 that gets him across. We got McBean at 33 last year?? So we may be giving up a decent pick for a spare parts ruckman. Will they be looking to play Vickery, Maric AND Hampson. Well, interesting to see. Capped interchange may force us to, but I don't like the sound of it.
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I did a little vomit in my mouth but there you go. At least it isn't another player from SA.
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The fact that the deal isn't done yet makes me think we're playing hard ball with our second pick.
Our compensation pick yes but pick 28 is a big no for me!!
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Can someone please explain to me how Carlton could've possibly been playing "hardball" with a third string ruckman, one year out from free agency, that no other club wanted?
Miller-esque panic buying at it's finest.
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The fact that the deal isn't done yet makes me think we're playing hard ball with our second pick.
Our compensation pick yes but pick 28 is a big no for me!!
But what number is the comp pick? It may be lower.
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why dont we target a kid like darcy cameron with pick 28 and offer wce our third rounder for 23yo callum sinclair who lets face it has shown probably more as a ruckman than hampson ever has.
we get two longer term ruckmen one who can cover for maric and we get probably the best rated junior genuine ruckman in the nd if he falls to us.
we can make room for these two just by chopping stephenson or has reportedly retired and derickx.
i dont get why we have to take a for/ruck. what we really need is one of a genuine key forward and one of a genuine #1 ruckman. we have mcbean and vickery who can give what hampson does.
failing any of the above id be more than happy to offer up pick 11 for billy longer hes worth that pick and he comes with two yrs of development.
bloody hell pick 28 for hampson what are they thinking. im all for trading for players but ffs not at any cost.
and for those who will bring maric up. i see no comparison except in their age. ivan had showed he was a more than competetive ruckman hampson has shown what exactly.
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Per AFL web-site done
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Hampson to join Tigers
Nick Bowen October 7, 2013 3:56 PM
SHAUN Hampson's move from Carlton to Richmond is a done deal with the official paperwork set to be lodged on Monday evening.
Hampson will join the Tigers in exchange for Richmond's second-round pick, currently No. 28 overall.
Carlton football manager Andrew McKay confirmed the deal had been done after emerging from trade talks at Etihad Stadium on Monday afternoon.
"That paperwork will hopefully be put in over the next couple of hours," McKay said.
"I think Shauny's about the only one that's been done today.
"Just for the record, Shaun's had a fantastic career for us – a tremendous fella, and valuable for our footy club."
"But he'll get great opportunity at Richmond and we wish him all the best."
Richmond football chief Dan Richardson said Hampson would support No.1 ruckman Ivan Maric and allow Tyrone Vickery to spend more time in attack.
"Tyrone's been playing mostly forward anyway. If Hampson is to come in we're certainly looking for him to complement our ruck stocks and share the load with Ivan," Richardson said.
Richardson said Hampson was Richmond's "main focus" for the Gillette AFL Trade Period, dismissing reports linking the Tigers with delisted Geelong veteran Paul Chapman.
"I don't know where that comes from actually. We haven't really had any discussion at all about Chappy," Richardson said.
"So best of luck to him, but not for us at this stage."
Richardson said Chapman, 32, was not a good fit for Richmond's young list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-07/tigers-talking-with-hampson
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In all honest everyone, lets wait and see, he is only 25, probably the biggest ruckman we have had for a long time, he is a goal kicker....
If he can maintain his body and fitness, well hell, he could be worth more than pick 28...
Lets wait before we lynch him, he hasn't even signed yet.
Yes pick 28 is a gamble, but it could go either way.
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I can't type........I'm typless!!!
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can we now assume they have officially given up on vickery as a ruckman.
can we assume they have taken hampson primarily as a ruckman.
who knows a definative role for both may see em improve. i wont be holding my breath waiting though.
still too much focus on potential at richmond and not enough at looking what attributes they actually bring to the roles we want em to play.
ah stuff it ive got get off and go away and cool down a bit.
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giving us pick 28 for Shaun Hampson isn't a fair deal i don't think, hope he does better for you guys than us, he frustrated the hell out of me
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and for those who will bring maric up. i see no comparison except in their age. ivan had showed he was a more than competetive ruckman hampson has shown what exactly.
Jacobs leaves Carlton for Adelaide in 2010 because he is behind Hampson.
Maric leaves Adelaide for Richmond in 2011 because he is behind Jacobs.
So Hampson was better than the guy who forced out Maric at Adelaide.
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couldnt give a toss about giving up pick 28.
The best thing about this is that it indicates that we will probably play two rucks next year.
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forget Shaun, we really traded Megan to you
(http://images.smh.com.au/2010/06/29/1657054/Megan-Gale-420x0.jpg)
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and for those who will bring maric up. i see no comparison except in their age. ivan had showed he was a more than competetive ruckman hampson has shown what exactly.
Jacobs leaves Carlton for Adelaide in 2010 because he is behind Hampson.
Maric leaves Adelaide for Richmond in 2011 because he is behind Jacobs.
So Hampson was better than the guy who forced out Maric at Adelaide.
:clapping
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forget Shaun, we really traded Megan to you
(http://images.smh.com.au/2010/06/29/1657054/Megan-Gale-420x0.jpg)
whatevs....
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Pick 28 is way to high for Hampson and we should have only offered our 3rd Round Pick.
Poor trade Richmond, surely you could have bargained for less for a player who was heading out the door already?
Though we traded Pick 37 (2nd Round Pick) for Maric in 2011.
Hampson can mark but can't kick.
What is our compensation for Matthew White?
Welcome to the Richmond Football Club Megan Gale!
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I like him
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I'm going out early and calling him Angus Mk II....
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From the Hun,
"HAWTHORN and Brisbane have made ground on a trade for exciting young ruckman Billy Longer.
Longer has selected Hawthorn as his preferred destination and the Hawks are confident they will land their man.
Brisbane said it wouldn't stand in the way of Longer and other young starts wanting out but it required "suitable" compensation, believed to be picks inside the top 30."
If the Hawks pick up Billy Longer for something inside pick 30, I'd feel a little gypped giving up a similar pick for Hampson.
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Interesting..we sing the praise of Hartley and FJ on so many trades and recruitments of the past few years but sell them short on this one..My only disappointment with this trade is that we negotiated with Evil
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hahaha Longer inside top 30 and a former top 10
Angus hampson Pick 28. we have got no stuffin idea
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Jacobs leaves Carlton for Adelaide in 2010 because he is behind Hampson.
Maric leaves Adelaide for Richmond in 2011 because he is behind Jacobs.
So Hampson was better than the guy who forced out Maric at Adelaide.
That is brilliant.
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Yes big hammer :clapping can take those pictures of posty and Griff down from his locker now :cheers
With the ease of handing over 28 we must be obviously coming into more picks in that vicinity.
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The Big Hampster..... :P
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hahaha Longer inside top 30 and a former top 10
Angus hampson Pick 28. we have got no stuffin idea
Prob best to wait and see what the final price will be for Longer before comparing? If they do land him for a similar pick that landed us hampson then I'll join you in being pretty peeed, but until then..
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Why don't some of you get the stuff over the Longer trade.....honestly, he didn't want to come to the RFC, so how the stuff could we of traded for him???
The pick is irrelevant, he wanted the Hawks, they are trading for him and he will get there... move the stuff on!!!
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Hope he turns out to be a good trade for us
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Why don't some of you get the stuff over the Longer trade.....honestly, he didn't want to come to the RFC, so how the stuff could we of traded for him???
The pick is irrelevant, he wanted the Hawks, they are trading for him and he will get there... move the stuff on!!!
Go back through the Longer threads and the same people were carrying on that he hasn't shown anything and have never seen him play :lol
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Three year deal and apparently both clubs were happy to do the deal
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Why don't some of you get the stuff over the Longer trade.....honestly, he didn't want to come to the RFC, so how the stuff could we of traded for him???
The pick is irrelevant, he wanted the Hawks, they are trading for him and he will get there... move the stuff on!!!
Go back through the Longer threads and the same people were carrying on that he hasn't shown anything and have never seen him play :lol
Yeah, amazing isn't it!!!! :scream
I am glad we got Hampson anyway, I hope he proves a lot of people wrong, just like Maric, Jackson etc..... :thumbsup
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Hampson's manager (Quinlan) was just on SEN - The Run Home
He Said:
* Deal is done
* paperwork has been lodged
* and signed off by Ken Wood (salary cap bloke)
* 3 year deal (means we've given him ans extra 2 years)
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That pick will end up being low 30s anyway.
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We won't give our duds more than 1 year but will give other duds 3 years?
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What a steal. I recon he will be a revelation like Maric.
Vickery to play 3rd tall?
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What a steal. I recon he will be a revelation like Maric.
Vickery to play 3rd tall?
Vickery to play forward!!!!
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RFC site saying it too
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Fingers crossed he proves us all wrong like Maric
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Per AFL web-site done
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Hampson to join Tigers
Nick Bowen October 7, 2013 3:56 PM
SHAUN Hampson's move from Carlton to Richmond is a done deal with the official paperwork set to be lodged on Monday evening.
Hampson will join the Tigers in exchange for Richmond's second-round pick, currently No. 28 overall.
Carlton football manager Andrew McKay confirmed the deal had been done after emerging from trade talks at Etihad Stadium on Monday afternoon.
"That paperwork will hopefully be put in over the next couple of hours," McKay said.
"I think Shauny's about the only one that's been done today.
"Just for the record, Shaun's had a fantastic career for us – a tremendous fella, and valuable for our footy club."
"But he'll get great opportunity at Richmond and we wish him all the best."
Richmond football chief Dan Richardson said Hampson would support No.1 ruckman Ivan Maric and allow Tyrone Vickery to spend more time in attack.
"Tyrone's been playing mostly forward anyway. If Hampson is to come in we're certainly looking for him to complement our ruck stocks and share the load with Ivan," Richardson said.
Richardson said Hampson was Richmond's "main focus" for the Gillette AFL Trade Period, dismissing reports linking the Tigers with delisted Geelong veteran Paul Chapman.
"I don't know where that comes from actually. We haven't really had any discussion at all about Chappy," Richardson said.
"So best of luck to him, but not for us at this stage."
Richardson said Chapman, 32, was not a good fit for Richmond's young list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-07/tigers-talking-with-hampson
if thats the best they can do at Richmond then they should all stuffing RESIGN their jobs and stuff off! 60,000 members for this poo. They have to be stuffing kidding.
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Hands of aluminium foil, the only player in the AFL who claps his hands and marks at the same time.
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A second round pick for Hampson looks like a terrible decision early in the piece. If we really wanted Hampson why not keep the Big O for another year on a rookie contract and woo Hampson over the course of the year to get him as a free agent end of 2014. Big O gives you nothing up forward but neither does Hampson.
They are obviously going to play 2 rucks plus Vickery. I think we are trying to copy Hawthorn and the David Hale thing. The problem with Hampson is you can't really play him as a 2nd ruck because he is so useless up forward.
And let's be brutally honest with ourselves here- Maric doesn't give you much as a forward either. Vickery is still the only one that can give you something.
Agree with the earlier post that this trade could be Jordie-esque, it's a shocker, and with our two favourite whipping boys McGuane and White gone, I really do hope Sampson strikes some early form for the tiges or it could get ugly in here!
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well its a flip of the coin isn't it.It could be jordy esque or it could simply be another Hartley inspiration from left field
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Honestly can't believe I'm reading this crap. I've got a little more faith in the club at the moment. Could someone please point to a poor move (trade wise or draft wise) Richmond have made in the last 3-4 years???.....
Get over yourselves. I'm not over the moon about this, but NO ONE has put things into perspective ie mentioning anything about the capping of interchange and that rucking will likely be a whole new ballgame. I tell you this, I rate Richmonds list management a hell of a lot more than most of the floggish comments re: Hampson saga.
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Is it?
How many of our 2nd and 3rd round picks over the last 3-4 years are playing regular senior footy?
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It is official now ... change the thread's title ...
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Is it?
How many of our 2nd and 3rd round picks over the last 3-4 years are playing regular senior footy?
there praying McBean comes through otherwise our 2nd and 3rd round picks have been disappointing to say the least.
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most 2nd and 3rd round draft picks generally are disappointing.
worth no where near what most think they are.
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Is it?
How many of our 2nd and 3rd round picks over the last 3-4 years are playing regular senior footy?
Probably the only mistake was Griffiths over Fyfe.....
If you're expecting RFC to be picking 3-4 starters out of each draft every year you've lost it. The following players from the last 4 years were taken as 2nd Rounders or more
Grimes (rookie draft), Dea, Batchelor, Griffiths, Mcbean, McDonough, Elton, Arnot.
All played senior games. All likely to have another season at the tigers. Can't really see a mistake there
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most 2nd and 3rd round draft picks generally are disappointing.
worth no where near what most think they are.
Some people just look for the negatives, what was that saying? "Put 'em in a dark room and they'd develop"
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If you're expecting RFC to be picking 3-4 starters out of each draft every year you've lost it.
No I'm not, I understand it is a bit of a lottery by this stage, what I am saying is that our number is due come up. We are due to unearth a gem in the middle of the draft. I spew looking at Goldstein from the late 30's or Jack Steven at 43 or so, it's our turn to get one :banghead :banghead!
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point is simply this we gave away a perfectly decent pick to get a bloke who has shown absolutely nothing and who is constantly injured every year. its a crap trade and Richmond FC should hang their heads in shame if this is the best they can do.
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most 2nd and 3rd round draft picks generally are disappointing.
worth no where near what most think they are.
Some people just look for the negatives, what was that saying? "Put 'em in a dark room and they'd develop"
Not true people were generally happy to get Chapman and Houli. Grigg was a 50/50 cause Collins was showing something
This is just pure filth whichever way you look at it
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most 2nd and 3rd round draft picks generally are disappointing.
worth no where near what most think they are.
I got ganged up on for saying 3rd rounders are usually no good, where were you to back me up :lol
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point is simply this we gave away a perfectly decent pick to get a bloke who has shown absolutely nothing and who is constantly injured every year. its a crap trade and Richmond FC should hang their heads in shame if this is the best they can do.
on what basis is a pick that gets long term players about 30% of the time, a perfectly decent pick?
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Grimes, Arnot, McBean were plus 28....
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i know a bloke that won a couple of grand in tatslotto too.......
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Pretty shrewd pick up by the tigers, well ahead of where Maric was at same age and with the work of renowned ruck whisperer lade! the rest is history. :shh .....Blair. Hartley , you've done it again :clapping
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I have faith in the club. Maric was crap until he landed here. Lade is doing an excellent job as far as I'm concerned.
Looks to me like they want:
- Vickery to take over from Maric
- McBean to take over from Vickery
- Hampson to take over from Stephenson
Over the next few years that is.
Let's face it. Longer wanted Hawthorn. Not really that many developed ruckman going around afaik. Although I HAVE been saying for over a year now we should be targeting Warnock. No chance now...
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Well summarized Andy
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"Renowned Ruck whisperer"...........................that's absolute gold :cheers
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Worst deal ever, this guy is a M O N G
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At times like this its worth going back to the early pages of the Maric thread:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14065.0
A lot of humble pie eaten. Fingers crossed we bake a big one :)
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Lets hope he comes out round 1 against the navy poos and kicks 1!! :laugh:
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Worst deal ever, this guy is a M O N G
:rollin
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Maric has been good for 1 year only and that was last year - this year he was just ok. Grigg I would have delisted this year or traded out coz hes ordinary. Houli has been good since he got here. Aaron Edwards, the bloke we got from Melbourne whats his name lol thats right Petterd who reminds me of kayne Pettifer and Lonergan and afew others have been ordinary recruits.
Richmond supporters are easily pleased with average players. No wonder we havent fired a shot as a club for 30 years.
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Wonder what nub,re they'll give him ;D
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Recruits from other club that are average that people are raving about:
Ivan Maric - been good. Especially last year otherwise was average this year.
Shaun Grigg - very average IMHO and I would trade out
Bachar Houli - has been very good since he got here
Chris Knights - got injured and has hardly played
Sam Lonergan - hasnt done anything
Aaron Edwards - played about 3 good games only. Maybe 2.
Ricky Petterd - hasnt done anything IMHO.
Orren Stephenson - came from Geelong as a back up and played 3 games.
thats the reality. Lets be honest its not a great list. Its actually pretty poor to be honest. Richmonds improvement has come from the likes of Ellis, Conca, Vlastuin, Rance and afew others who all came through the draft. Outside of Maric who filled a need and Houli what have the others done?
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Most played their part in us winning 15 games this year too, lot of bloated opinion ,light on for facts. Some pretty fine performances from that lot, thems the facts gramps :lol
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those draftees you all talk about were 1'st rounders, or picks under 20, the picks that by far have the most success rate.
you then compare them to blokes, who we have given up FA for, three of them on the rookie list, one a pick we would not have used, one a PSD,, one a free agent who was doing pretty good until he copped a bad luck injury and maric who was traded for a draft pick that historically is not that succesfull when spent on kids.
Gee lucky you don't barrack for the swans, you'd have ruptured a poopa valve when roos gave up a first round draft pick for a third string melbourne ruckman
you really should read money ball ramps, an interesting read.
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You forgot chaplin.
like it or not ramps, 5-6 of that list are in our starting 22 and contributed to us winning 15 games.
Ask yourself what have we given up for that list.
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Most played their part in us winning 15 games this year too, lot of bloated opinion ,light on for facts. Some pretty fine performances from that lot, thems the facts gramps :lol
as pauline hanson would say - Please explain?
where exactly did you see the fine performances, most of us missed the fine performances lol. :lol
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You forgot chaplin.
like it or not ramps, 5-6 of that list are in our starting 22 and contributed to us winning 15 games.
Ask yourself what have we given up for that list.
x2 :clapping
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You forgot chaplin.
like it or not ramps, 5-6 of that list are in our starting 22 and contributed to us winning 15 games.
Ask yourself what have we given up for that list.
Chaplins a good player. I have no problem with that.
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This sums up our situation IMHO
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-rumour-discussion-ii.1035455/page-58#post-30508269
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Wonder what nub,re they'll give him ;D
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Happy to go on record to say I don't think this is a good trade for the Tiges. (And for the record, I liked the Maric trade at the time)
Just read that email from the club saying Hampson has be in the system for 7 years! Holly stuff, he has done nothing. I would have said he was drafted 3 maybe 4 years ago.
Since his draft year Carlton have drafted Kruezer with pick 1 and traded some decent picks for Warnock. IMO that goes a long way to saying Carlton didn't have all that much confidence in Shaun.
And neither do I.
It's done now so let's just wait and see.
Good luck to him
:gotigers
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Grimes, Arnot, McBean were plus 28....
So was Troy Taylor, Webberly, Ben Nason, Dean McDonald, Derickx,
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Well I can remember starting a thread here years ago pushing for Warnock....oh and Mundy...as per usual I was shot down.....gee what could of been eh!!!! But the knockers back then, holey hell!
So lets just see how he goes, welcome him to the club and support him..
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Grimes, Arnot, McBean were plus 28....
Alex Fasolo pick 45
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good luck shaun hampson.
dont think your worth pick 28 but i can see the reasoning behind taking you.
not happy with the process in that we have given up a valuable second rounder for a player who really hasnt shown much at all.
i really hope your a ruckman and the club plays you as such.
at 26 yrs of age it is time to step up and show the footy world you can play at this level.
again good luck and all the best to ya.
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why do you think the pick we gave up is so valuable, claw?
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Fills a need; don't think that can be disputed
Far too early to say whether it's a master stroke or a bust seeing he is yet to play a game for us.
But I'm prepared to back our list management people on this as the only really dud choice they've made IMV is Grigg ;D
Maric, Chaplin, Knights (prior to injury was tracking OK), Houli as choices for our senior list have been good choices that have been need specific
And before people start jumping up and down and start telling me about Petterd, Lonergan and Big O. Those 3 are rookies, cost us absolutely nothing and in the case of Petterd and big O they have done the job they were recruited for
Let's revisit after he's played a few games
Until then...
Welcome to Tigerland Shaun
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surprised to hear his only in 5th season
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As compo for the loss of White and McGuane, won't we likely get a 2nd rounder anyway??? IF we do, which I think may be the case, lot of people may be eating their words...
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Most played their part in us winning 15 games this year too, lot of bloated opinion ,light on for facts. Some pretty fine performances from that lot, thems the facts gramps :lol
as pauline hanson would say - Please explain?
where exactly did you see the fine performances, most of us missed the fine performances lol. :lol
Take the bloated opinion out of it and run your eyes over the best players over the course of 2013. With the exception of lonners , ea one played a role in our victories along the way. That's right every one of them. So spare me of the bluster and stick with the facts partner.... :lol
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why do you think the pick we gave up is so valuable, claw?
do you really have to ask after all the posts ive done.
we just had a run in about 3rd rounders yet 3 rd round sucess rates goes at more than 50 %.
you build with your early picks 1st 2nd and 3rd rounders. you look after now with later nd picks rookie picks f/a and the psd.
if we cant grow our list with 2nd rounders we are surely doomed to forever fail.
you know what carlton traded a contracted player to us for pick 28. i wonder if they think its a valuable commodity.
its our processes that i want us to go thru.they have worked so why change now.
we have pick 28 even in the yr of poor drafts this has proved to be a valuable pick range.
pick 28, 29 30 31 32 a 5 pick range.
2012 - obrien, cluery, shaw mcintosh, close
2011- mciness, forster, yeo, merrett, hamling.
clearly to early to call these drafts . but already there have been good signs from most.
2010 - lester, lycett, batchelor, steinberg,green
2009 - duncan, gunstan,ball, tutt,winmar.
2008 - mckernan ,beams hanneberry, j roughhead , jones.
thats the last 5 drafts not the lottery people make it out to be.
even i have applauded the club for the processes its gone thru but and how to put it correctly. no i cant be bothered.
all i can finish with is im not against getting hampson ive advocated we take mature players but always at the right cost and we look after the long term while we are at it.
i actually think top 30 picks are more valuable in yrs of poor drafts than yrs of strong drafts.
why. well its pretty clear to me most drafts there are good players to be had top 50. but in the yr of a poor draft after pick 30 35 it becomes very tough to get it right. where as in a good yr you are likely to get a similar player at pick 50. not sure if i made that clear or wrote it right.
i am sincere in wishing hampson all the best lets hpe hes ready to click and take a big step up.
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where do you get the success rate of 3rd rounders runs at 50%
I have picks over 20 running at approx 30%, based on the player playing 100 games. if you take out the players that did not play the 100 games at their original club, it would be less.
If you added your own subjectiveness and removed players like rains, mcguane and white it would be even less again.
(picks over 60 run at 9% BTW)
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where do you get the success rate of 3rd rounders runs at 50%
I have picks over 20 running at approx 30%, based on the player playing 100 games. if you take out the players that did not play the 100 games at their original club, it would be less.
If you added your own subjectiveness and removed players like rains, mcguane and white it would be even less again.
(picks over 60 run at 9% BTW)
read it somewhere by pelchen i think a few yrs back. also read the success rate of all picks in the nd goes at something like 60%. memory???
one im sure about is 18yo rookie picks go at one in 6, and thats to play a game. this one is why i advocate taking a percentage of state leaguers here or late in the nd. let the 18 yr old rookies go to the state leagues and improve there.its funny every state league ive looked at its the same mature 22 - 24 yo players carving up afl listed players and we choose to ignore them constantly.
anyway you got an answer.sorry i cant be more precise.
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i remember reading an article a while back that listed the success rates, but i couldn't remember the figures, or find the article, which i why i worked out my own.
based on players playing 100 games or more, which is how the original article did it, and what paul roos worked off when he made the decision that draft picks were over rated, from 2000=2005.
anything later is too early to include as there are players that will most probably get to 100 games but are not there yet, so would give a falsely lower figure.
(http://alphadog.net.au/publicfiles/DSR.png)
I suspect your memory has inflated the success rates
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Let's all look at figures pre 2005 when recruiters were part time. Not comparing apples with apples
Sorry but that example is for the tip and so what if Roos said it doesn't mean it's gospel
If second round ain't worth much to you why weren't you keen on using it on Luke ball?
I'm sure I can find other examples where a second rounder was valued but hey just not in this example. Am I right?
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Ridiculous notion, a 2nd round pick is not valuable.
Hampsin drafted three picks. Behind jack reiwokdt :thumbsup
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For me any pick on the wrong side of #25 isn't valuable. Hit and miss.
And al I can't take your table of figures seriously because it clearly indicates that picks 21-30 generally perform worse than the picks in the 31-40, 41-50 and 51-60 brackets. You would think that it would be a linear equation with the talent drying up and success going with it as the picks go lower and lower.
IMO probably just not an accurate enough test.
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Article in the sun saying contract is 3 years at $250k a year with potential incentives, can anyone confirm this?
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Thank god he's cheapish
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we have pick 28 even in the yr of poor drafts this has proved to be a valuable pick range.
pick 28, 29 30 31 32 a 5 pick range.
2012 - obrien, cluery, shaw mcintosh, close
2011- mciness, forster, yeo, merrett, hamling.
clearly to early to call these drafts . but already there have been good signs from most.
2010 - lester, lycett, batchelor, steinberg,green
2009 - duncan, gunstan,ball, tutt,winmar.
2008 - mckernan ,beams hanneberry, j roughhead , jones.
Who from any of them have shown anything? 2008 was good, 2009 2 are good, one was already an AFL player (basically the same as us trading pick 28 for Hampson) rest are duds
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Richmond recruit Shaun Hampson lucky to be given second chance at high draft price
Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
October 08, 2013
SHAUN Hampson is a lucky bloke — and not for the reason you might be thinking. You know, often having brekky with Megan Gale.
At 25, he's played 63 games in seven years for Carlton. At different times, he’s had a failing body, a bad knee, iron hands and a dodgy right foot.
And yesterday he was traded to Richmond for pick No. 28, which might end up being pick No. 32 with free agency compo picks incorporated.
On the surface, it is a staggering decision by the Tigers.
You’d agree to a third-rounder, but a second-rounder is a little too high for a lucky dip.
Try some of these players between drafted between picks 22 and pick 30 in recent years: Jack Darling, Cameron Guthrie, Jack Gunston, Mitch Duncan, Jake Carlisle, Dayne Beam, Jack Redden.
The Tigers are taking punt.
Richmond secured Shaun Hampson by trading pick 28 to Carlton. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Of course, it helps if you are 201cm and the second ruck at your new club is a 31-year-old journeyman named Orren Stephenson.
Still, Hampson is lucky to have 1) a club prepared to invest so heavily in him and b) the opportunity to make a statement as to what sort of footballer he wants to be remembered as being.
Hampson is good-looking footballer.
He’s tall, he can mark, he can ruck and he can run. The problem is we haven’t seen him doing all of that on a consistent basis.
His past four seasons have returned games tallies of six, 13, nine and eight.
They are not the numbers of a pick No. 28.
Maybe the Tigers, under the astute eye of list manager Blair Hartley, sees something special when other see pedestrian.
In recent years, Hartley identified and landed Bachar Houli, Shaun Grigg, Ivan Maric, Troy Chaplin and Steve Morris.
Hartley went after Hampson soon after Carlton’s season had ended.
He was aware Hampson a problematic posterior cruciate ligament which kept him on the sidelines for most of the year, but the interest was strong.
Talks, a medical, a contract believed to be three years at about $250,000 with added incentives, was all completed, leaving the delicate issue of satisfying Carlton in a trade deal.
So, the Tigers offered No. 28, and the Blues said you had us at hello.
The Blues would never disrespect one of it’s own, but it’s safe to say they wanted the deal as much as the Tigers.
Maybe the Tigers fell in love with Hampson after Round 1 this year.
In that match, Hampson took eight marks, the second highest return in his career, and hounded the Tigers defence.
Clearly, the Tigers have invested in Hamspon and Hampson has to reward that investment.
Promising is Richmond’s ability to improve its players.
When Maric arrived from Adelaide, he had similar poor averages as Hampson. Then Maric blossomed, although this year he battled away with suspect groins, which makes the Hampson deal a little more understanding.
Hamspon will ruck, allowing Ty Vickery to play as a permanent forward, and will play forward which will free up Jack Riewoldt who does get the double-team.
The question is: Can he hold up his end of the bargain?
As for bargains, the Blues think they found one, and will try to use No. 28 to entice Shane Savage from Hawthorn.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-recruit-shaun-hampson-lucky-to-be-given-second-chance-at-high-draft-price/story-fndv8t7m-1226734333807
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Last 5 pick 31's (which our pick will be after Buddy, Daisy, Sylvia get compo): Jordan Roughead, Jason Tutt, Ariel Steinberg, Jackson Merrett, Kamdyn McIntosh.
None have done anything. Roughead the best of them and he was in the 2008 superdraft. We're talking pick 31 in the 2013 Crapola draft.
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It evens up the Andy Collins deal
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Let's all look at figures pre 2005 when recruiters were part time. Not comparing apples with apples
Sorry but that example is for the tip and so what if Roos said it doesn't mean it's gospel
If second round ain't worth much to you why weren't you keen on using it on Luke ball?
I'm sure I can find other examples where a second rounder was valued but hey just not in this example. Am I right?
That ID name of yours is hilarious :lol
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For me any pick on the wrong side of #25 isn't valuable. Hit and miss.
And al I can't take your table of figures seriously because it clearly indicates that picks 21-30 generally perform worse than the picks in the 31-40, 41-50 and 51-60 brackets. You would think that it would be a linear equation with the talent drying up and success going with it as the picks go lower and lower.
IMO probably just not an accurate enough test.
If you look at the table you will see in 2005 that no picks between 21-30 went on to play 100 games, while 7 in the 41-50 did. This is a statistical anomaly and why i use the figure of approximately 30 % as that is what it averages out to.
It is not as big a data set as would like, but if you start going further back you will get the criticism that recruiting has changed and become more professional. In saying that, it would not change the overall numbers, but more the individual brackets. the later picks would probably be a higher rate, while the earlier pick would be lower. I do remeber reading an article saying how the strike rate for early picks is better now than the early days, but this does not affect the overall quality of players in the pool, just the order in which they are taken.
To include later years you would need to change the criteria, as i explained there are a number of players who do not yet each the 100 game mark, but probably will, so we would get lower numbers, but that too would be misleading.
It is hard to quantify what is a success and what is isn't, but using a set mark of games indicates a reasonable career and is much better than using simply a subjective rating of players, which could vary so much from individual to individual
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Let's all look at figures pre 2005 when recruiters were part time. Not comparing apples with apples
All that will have changed is that the recruiters will be getting theri order of merit more accurate, not changing the overall quality of players in the pool. The only real change in later drafts any, would be that the first round picks would be a better rate and the later ones worse, but not by much
Sorry but that example is for the tip and so what if Roos said it doesn't mean it's gospel.Nah it aint gospel, but he did research rather than just pull an opinion out his clacker and then used that knowledge to create a very successful model
If second round ain't worth much to you why weren't you keen on using it on Luke ball? Because at the time, I too would have overrated the value of the pick, because i was ignorant to the info
I'm sure I can find other examples where a second rounder was valued but hey just not in this example. Am I right?
Of course you will always find examples. I can find an example of a player taken at pick 112 that forged a very good 240 game career, but that sort of thing is the the gullible and ignorant. You need to look at the failures as well. There is a reason that adds for lotto only show winners grinning rather than the multitude of people that just gave up their money. Its a deception to give a false image.
If you can provide a better way to quantify the success rate of draft picks I'm more than willing to take notice, and if it shows I'm wrong i will happily change my views again
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Richmond recruit Shaun Hampson lucky to be given second chance at high draft price
Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
October 08, 2013
SHAUN Hampson is a lucky bloke — and not for the reason you might be thinking. You know, often having brekky with Megan Gale.
At 25, he's played 63 games in seven years for Carlton. At different times, he’s had a failing body, a bad knee, iron hands and a dodgy right foot.
And yesterday he was traded to Richmond for pick No. 28, which might end up being pick No. 32 with free agency compo picks incorporated.
On the surface, it is a staggering decision by the Tigers.
You’d agree to a third-rounder, but a second-rounder is a little too high for a lucky dip.
Try some of these players between drafted between picks 22 and pick 30 in recent years: Jack Darling, Cameron Guthrie, Jack Gunston, Mitch Duncan, Jake Carlisle, Dayne Beam, Jack Redden.
The Tigers are taking punt.
Richmond secured Shaun Hampson by trading pick 28 to Carlton. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Of course, it helps if you are 201cm and the second ruck at your new club is a 31-year-old journeyman named Orren Stephenson.
Still, Hampson is lucky to have 1) a club prepared to invest so heavily in him and b) the opportunity to make a statement as to what sort of footballer he wants to be remembered as being.
Hampson is good-looking footballer.
He’s tall, he can mark, he can ruck and he can run. The problem is we haven’t seen him doing all of that on a consistent basis.
His past four seasons have returned games tallies of six, 13, nine and eight.
They are not the numbers of a pick No. 28.
Maybe the Tigers, under the astute eye of list manager Blair Hartley, sees something special when other see pedestrian.
In recent years, Hartley identified and landed Bachar Houli, Shaun Grigg, Ivan Maric, Troy Chaplin and Steve Morris.
Hartley went after Hampson soon after Carlton’s season had ended.
He was aware Hampson a problematic posterior cruciate ligament which kept him on the sidelines for most of the year, but the interest was strong.
Talks, a medical, a contract believed to be three years at about $250,000 with added incentives, was all completed, leaving the delicate issue of satisfying Carlton in a trade deal.
So, the Tigers offered No. 28, and the Blues said you had us at hello.
The Blues would never disrespect one of it’s own, but it’s safe to say they wanted the deal as much as the Tigers.
Maybe the Tigers fell in love with Hampson after Round 1 this year.
In that match, Hampson took eight marks, the second highest return in his career, and hounded the Tigers defence.
Clearly, the Tigers have invested in Hamspon and Hampson has to reward that investment.
Promising is Richmond’s ability to improve its players.
When Maric arrived from Adelaide, he had similar poor averages as Hampson. Then Maric blossomed, although this year he battled away with suspect groins, which makes the Hampson deal a little more understanding.
Hamspon will ruck, allowing Ty Vickery to play as a permanent forward, and will play forward which will free up Jack Riewoldt who does get the double-team.
The question is: Can he hold up his end of the bargain?
As for bargains, the Blues think they found one, and will try to use No. 28 to entice Shane Savage from Hawthorn.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-recruit-shaun-hampson-lucky-to-be-given-second-chance-at-high-draft-price/story-fndv8t7m-1226734333807
Excellent article from Robinson. Spot on correct article. Carlton made out like Bandits.
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Excellent article from Robinson. Spot on correct article.
Same Robbo that you and others bag constantly for writing crap ;D
have to say if we've got Hampson for 3 years @ $250k a season with a few incentives thrown in; then on the payments side of it we've done well ;D
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If Carlton use 28 for Savage, then the Hawks make out like bandits IMO.
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I'm happy to support Hampson until he has been given some quality time with our coaching staff who will no doubt concentrate on his obvious deficiencies, but it is concerning that his best highlights involve so many shanked shots at goal. He certainly can take a good grab though and if he is over his knee problems then there is hope for him yet.
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Don't forget he is there mainly as a ruckman, not a forward.
From what I saw of his ruckwork in the highlights, he can jump and tap to advantage.
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We just raped Carlton AGAIN
Port offered them a top ten pick 2 years ago, and they could have got an end of first round pick as compo from GWS when they were after him
This pick will end up being about 35
:lol :lol :lol
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From what I saw of his ruckwork in the highlights, he can jump and tap to advantage.
In 2013, on %, he is the #1 tap ruckman in the AFL. 17% of his hitouts when to his teammates, which is the bset out there.
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Firstly, anything Mark Robinson has said can never be used as decent evidence when making your case. Secondly, people are failing to factor in a lot into the trade.
I'm by no means happy, stoked or even pleased that Hampson was traded for our pick 28, however I've considered how well we've done trading and picking spare parts players we've needed over the last 3-4 years, and I can't think of a single dud today and yet ALL came across in circumstances that had me thinking that we've got another Jordy McMahon on our hands.
We're likely to receive a 2nd round or end of 2nd round with White and McGuane leaving - which would essentially replace our traded pick.
Big men take a much longer time to develope - Hampson didn't start playing football until he was 16 (and yet he was taken at #17, obviously incredibly athletic for 200+). Brendon Lade in his ear for a preseason - he'll come on in (pardon the pun) leaps and bounds.
Capped interchange means teams are expected to be playing 2 specialist ruckman, away from the 1 specialist with a pinch hitter (i.e Vickery) we've seen over the last few years. COULD be a master stroke from the tigers, but we'll just have to wait and see. If pick 28-32 ends up being a Hird/Swan/Tippet/Black/Fevola, well, I'll eat my words.
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From what I saw of his ruckwork in the highlights, he can jump and tap to advantage.
In 2013, on %, he is the #1 tap ruckman in the AFL. 17% of his hitouts when to his teammates, which is the bset out there.
That is encouraging I must say. I'm sure Cotch, Dusty and Co will lap up that sort of delivery.
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From what I saw of his ruckwork in the highlights, he can jump and tap to advantage.
In 2013, on %, he is the #1 tap ruckman in the AFL. 17% of his hitouts when to his teammates, which is the bset out there.
That is encouraging I must say. I'm sure Cotch, Dusty and Co will lap up that sort of delivery.
17% the best out there? Is that true? Seems like a pitifully small number. That means 83% to opposition advantage or undecided. If that is the case why even worry abt a ruckman?
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I think that its 17% of all hitouts he contested, not just the ones he got his hands on.
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I think that its 17% of all hitouts he contested, not just the ones he got his hands on.
thanks
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Last 22 games:
19.9 score
387 hitouts
87 marks / 38 contested
46 tackles
Have no idea where that ranks him as a ruck/fwd
But seems like injury and spending too much time up forward are the issues with his development
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Blobbo should worry about Essendon and why they can never get any deals done.
We had a target, we got him on day one and our trade week/s are pretty much done.
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trade week should be like a boxing match. the combatants need to get back into the ring and fight instead of peeing off into the sunset claiming youve won the bout when you done nothing of the sort. This stuff that we are done with trade week reminds me of when Miller concluded the McMahon deal, he came out and said it was exhausting. Malakies. Get in the ring and fight to bring better players to Richmond. One player whose injured all the time. Get in and Fight. Dont get your pants pulled down by the scum at Carlton pffft.
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Blobbo should worry about Essendon and why they can never get any deals done.
We had a target, we got him on day one and our trade week/s are pretty much done.
i hope your wrong with that last comment Wayne?
We are nowhere near done if we fancy a flag anytime soon.
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Last 22 games:
19.9 score
387 hitouts
87 marks / 38 contested
46 tackles
Have no idea where that ranks him as a ruck/fwd
But seems like injury and spending too much time up forward are the issues with his development
Minson's AA year:
7.5 score
860 hitouts
40 marks / 15 contested
81 tackles
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Pick 31 is fine for Hampson. At least you know what you're getting and you back your development department to make him a better player. Did anyone expect Maric to be as good as he's been? No-one I'd say.
Plus you get Megan Gale into the deal. :cheers
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Last 22 games:
19.9 score
387 hitouts
87 marks / 38 contested
46 tackles
Have no idea where that ranks him as a ruck/fwd
But seems like injury and spending too much time up forward are the issues with his development
Minson's AA year:
7.5 score
860 hitouts
40 marks / 15 contested
81 tackles
Hampson been used forward far too often at Carlton you think Gerks?
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Last 22 games:
19.9 score
387 hitouts
87 marks / 38 contested
46 tackles
Have no idea where that ranks him as a ruck/fwd
But seems like injury and spending too much time up forward are the issues with his development
Minson's AA year:
7.5 score
860 hitouts
40 marks / 15 contested
81 tackles
Hampson been used forward far too often at Carlton you think Gerks?
Looks that way, and he's regularly injured. I've seen him spud it up and go missing quite a bit up forward. Nothing I haven't seen out of Luke McGuane though, and this guy is a 201cm ruck.
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We haven't raped anyone G man. This is not some sort of reverse Schulz. He will look the goods at training with Griff playing on him :lol
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Its a great pick up & what is required.
Stats are rubbish & always will be. If everyone went of stats Joel Bowden would have won 4 Brownlow medals, Jackson would be chief of the AFL. & Nathan Foley the Road Runner. Don't give me these stats rubbish cause if he was that good a player, He would be their #1 Ruckman at pooton & be in the senior side every week. ;D
In any case Hampson is a good trade & will help out Maric & give the ball to our midfielders. Richmond must play both Ruckmen every week to be successful IMO
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We haven't raped anyone G man. This is not some sort of reverse Schulz. He will look the goods at training with Griff playing on him :lol
;D Coach :lol Hampson might injure Griffo at training :rollin
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Spent plenty of time up forward, just ask Posty and Griff.
As stated, 28 will end up being 31-35 and the club used their little scoring system and determined that Hampson both fills a need and is better than anyone we had our eye at the pick.
This bloke can wrestle and take a serious contested mark. Just needs to start kicking straighter.
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We haven't raped anyone G man. This is not some sort of reverse Schulz. He will look the goods at training with Griff playing on him :lol
;D Coach :lol Hampson might injure Griffo at training :rollin
Griff will injure himself at training... ::)
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Griff can't wait to meet Hampson after he returns from the rehab group's end of season trip to the bubble wrap factory.
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Blobbo should worry about Essendon and why they can never get any deals done.
We had a target, we got him on day one and our trade week/s are pretty much done.
i hope your wrong with that last comment Wayne?
We are nowhere near done if we fancy a flag anytime soon.
From what I understand, we don't have any more trade targets in this trade period. I'm not saying we're locked and loaded.
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We haven't raped anyone G man. This is not some sort of reverse Schulz. He will look the goods at training with Griff playing on him :lol
Whiskey!
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This is not some sort of reverse Schulz. :lol
Come on Coach, a reverse Schulz is no better than a forward McMahon. Hampson is far better than that. I think a reverse Polo would be a more apt description?
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I'm dizzy after reading that tiga
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I'm dizzy after reading that tiga
Mission accomplished! ;D Imagine if I put in a Dr Seuss phrase
A reverse schulz and a foward McMahon,
Both players who can't hit the side of a Barn,
Trade them at once, no wait which one first?
Who knows which club, has a dud of a thirst?
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our recruiting philosophy for this year with no more plans to trade for anything resembling a half decent footballer can only be described as a
FIASCO
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our recruiting philosophy for this year with no more plans to trade for anything resembling a half decent footballer can only be described as a
FIASCO
Ramps, I'm certain I'm not the only one here who thinks you are being a bit Melodramatic. At the moment, you're making George Costanza look like Elliot Goblet
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i reckon Ramps is on the money to be honest.
We have more holes to fill and this list, we have here has been blessed with a good injury free year. Facts are we still lost to 9th and this team has an abundance of average place years
We need more quality through the door than Blair's astute selections of Grigg and Hampson.
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We need to get a Star footballer not depth players.
You dont see Barcelona or Manchester United or Real Madrid buying from the op shops.
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We need to get a Star footballer not depth players.
You dont see Barcelona or Manchester United or Real Madrid buying from the op shops.
If only it was that easy ::)
There aren't to many stars moving anywhere this year, I'm not sure who you want us to target but firstly they would want yo have to come to us and secondly we need something to offer in return for trade.
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our recruiting philosophy for this year with no more plans to trade for anything resembling a half decent footballer can only be described as a
FIASCO
Ramps, I'm certain I'm not the only one here who thinks you are being a bit Melodramatic. At the moment, you're making George Costanza look like Elliot Goblet
Have to agree tiga
Ramps and I say this with the utmost repsect, when we sat 3-3 earlier this year you said the "re-build had been a failure" (or words close to that) and we needed to start yet again. After 23 rounds we ended up making finals and finsihing 5th. So the re-build cannot be classed by anyone including you as a failure. Time proved that you made a bad call in the heat of thwe moment becasue you were disappointed and you like all of us want success.
Perhaps you are doing it again because I don't think you can seriously believe the recruitment of one player is going to send us spiralling down the ladder?
With compo picks still be to handed out pick 28 is likely to be end up being around 31-34 range. Which is close to what we handed out for Maric when we gave up our 3rd round pick. Let's not forget that by finishing higher up the ladder our 2nd rounder pick is a late pick and more like a early 3rd rounder.
I think that we should at least give Hampson a go, see what he brings to the table and take it from there
Ditto with the remainder of the trade & FA periods plus everyones favourites the Drafts ;D
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i think i had said that if we lose to port the season would be over and the rebuild would be on the verge of failure but anyways :cheers
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nice edit ;D
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We need to get a Star footballer not depth players.
You dont see Barcelona or Manchester United or Real Madrid buying from the op shops.
If only it was that easy ::)
There aren't to many stars moving anywhere this year, I'm not sure who you want us to target but firstly they would want yo have to come to us and secondly we need something to offer in return for trade.
We need to be brave, Pick 11 and Nahas for Dangerfield, or what about giving a team FIVE :o players, for just one player?
Derickx, Nahas, McGuane, Lonergan and Foley for Ablett!
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our recruiting philosophy for this year with no more plans to trade for anything resembling a half decent footballer can only be described as a
FIASCO
Settle down Ramps, your just becoming silly now.
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nice edit ;D
thanx ;D
:lol :lol :lol
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Not saying I agree with it but going by what Dan Richardson said today, the Club believes our second round pick would've dropped down into the 30s once all the compo picks are added in and so our pick would equate to a late second rounder or early third rounder.
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I think Shaun Hampson will be excellent for the Tiges and I look forward to seeing him star in 2014. :thumbsup
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If he stays on the park and plays 22 games I expect he will finish top 10 in the B&F. Great work from the Tiges right here. :clapping
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If he stays on the park and plays 22 games I expect he will finish top 10 in the B&F. Great work from the Tiges right here. :clapping
:lol sorry but he won't finish top ten
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most of our recruits finish in the top 10 in the b&f in his first year ;)
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most of our recruits finish in the top 10 in the b&f in his first year ;)
with the core group you already have there at the moment, i just don't see it happening
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We need to get a Star footballer not depth players.
Agree but make that 2-3
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Blobbo should worry about Essendon and why they can never get any deals done.
We had a target, we got him on day one and our trade week/s are pretty much done.
i hope your wrong with that last comment Wayne?
We are nowhere near done if we fancy a flag anytime soon.
From what I understand, we don't have any more trade targets in this trade period. I'm not saying we're locked and loaded.
From the articles you read :lol
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i reckon Ramps is on the money to be honest.
We have more holes to fill and this list, we have here has been blessed with a good injury free year. Facts are we still lost to 9th and this team has an abundance of average place years
We need more quality through the door than Blair's astute selections of Grigg and Hampson.
What quality players do you want us to get and what players. Please no Adams for Foley suggestions :lol
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I think Shaun Hampson will be excellent for the Tiges and I look forward to seeing him star in 2014. :thumbsup
Me 2
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our recruiting philosophy for this year with no more plans to trade for anything resembling a half decent footballer can only be described as a
FIASCO
Ramps, I'm certain I'm not the only one here who thinks you are being a bit Melodramatic. At the moment, you're making George Costanza look like Elliot Goblet
Have to agree tiga
Ramps and I say this with the utmost repsect, when we sat 3-3 earlier this year you said the "re-build had been a failure" (or words close to that) and we needed to start yet again. After 23 rounds we ended up making finals and finsihing 5th. So the re-build cannot be classed by anyone including you as a failure. Time proved that you made a bad call in the heat of thwe moment becasue you were disappointed and you like all of us want success.
Perhaps you are doing it again because I don't think you can seriously believe the recruitment of one player is going to send us spiralling down the ladder?
With compo picks still be to handed out pick 28 is likely to be end up being around 31-34 range. Which is close to what we handed out for Maric when we gave up our 3rd round pick. Let's not forget that by finishing higher up the ladder our 2nd rounder pick is a late pick and more like a early 3rd rounder.
I think that we should at least give Hampson a go, see what he brings to the table and take it from there
Ditto with the remainder of the trade & FA periods plus everyones favourites the Drafts ;D
I thought Ramps was ranting after the Essendon lose at Dreamtime WP. ;D
I know I was carrying on then too. ;D
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I think it's called "Internet nuffers".
So called experts who look on surface when judging the outcome.
Just laughable
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Do we get any change from this deal
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I think it's called "Internet nuffers".
So called experts who look on surface when judging the outcome.
Just laughable
Cue HRT. ;D
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I thought Ramps was ranting after the Essendon lose at Dreamtime WP. ;D
I know I was carrying on then too. ;D
Nah, he started the "re-build on the verge of failure" thread after we lost 3 games on a row, and made regular appearances dependingp no results after that ;D
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I think it's called "Internet nuffers".
So called experts who look on surface when judging the outcome.
Just laughable
Cue HRT. ;D
The nuffers need to be held to account as they hold the club to account. I sit on the cheap seats in judgement as they sit in the cheap seats in judgement ;D
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I thought Ramps was ranting after the Essendon lose at Dreamtime WP. ;D
I know I was carrying on then too. ;D
Nah, he started the "re-build on the verge of failure" thread after we lost 3 games on a row, and made regular appearances dependingp no results after that ;D
this is quite correct ;D
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geez i cant believe people dont value top 30 picks its unbelievable.
any way not here to debate the merits of pick 28 in the nd.
what i am asking based solely on shaun hampsons 7 yrs of footy would you use pick 28 based on.
his performances to date. or in a way performances against peers.
his statistical data.
his strengths and weaknesses.
for me its a definate no.
imo the club has made this decision based almost entirley on potential. they see something in him that no one else does. good on em i hope it works out.
i have to say though im absolutely against useing these types of picks on players with these types of performances. with those sort of stats and with those weaknesses.
what would appease me somewhat is if they found a way to get back into the second round.
oh just on 2nd and 3rd rnd picks.
over the last 5 yrs ive looked long and hard at geelong so i will use them as an example.
can anyone tell me how many 2nd and 3rd round picks played in their 2011 premiership. the answer is 12 they went with the 7 first rnd picks that played.
im not going to argue i have my views on this topic which i have voiced regularly for me its a constant process. which is you take kids in the first 3 rounds and you do everything else later. the only exception to this would be a taylor adams for our first round pick. at 20 yrs of age hes very much a long term prospect.
id be happy to give away a second rnd pick for a proven player of a good standard. hampson for me is neither proven or shown himself to be at a consistent afl standard and thats after 7 yrs.
its funny to watch peoples attitudes and opinions change yr after yr to suit. all i ask is we put in place good processes to asses players and stick to it.
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I think it's called "Internet nuffers".
So called experts who look on surface when judging the outcome.
Just laughable
Cue HRT. ;D
The nuffers need to be held to account as they hold the club to account. I sit on the cheap seats in judgement as they sit in the cheap seats in judgement ;D
:lol :clapping
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geez i cant believe people dont value top 30 picks its unbelievable.
any way not here to debate the merits of pick 28 in the nd.
what i am asking based solely on shaun hampsons 7 yrs of footy would you use pick 28 based on.
his performances to date. or in a way performances against peers.
his statistical data.
his strengths and weaknesses.
for me its a definate no.
imo the club has made this decision based almost entirley on potential. they see something in him that no one else does. good on em i hope it works out.
i have to say though im absolutely against useing these types of picks on players with these types of performances. with those sort of stats and with those weaknesses.
what would appease me somewhat is if they found a way to get back into the second round.
oh just on 2nd and 3rd rnd picks.
over the last 5 yrs ive looked long and hard at geelong so i will use them as an example.
can anyone tell me how many 2nd and 3rd round picks played in their 2011 premiership. the answer is 12 they went with the 7 first rnd picks that played.
im not going to argue i have my views on this topic which i have voiced regularly for me its a constant process. which is you take kids in the first 3 rounds and you do everything else later. the only exception to this would be a taylor adams for our first round pick. at 20 yrs of age hes very much a long term prospect.
id be happy to give away a second rnd pick for a proven player of a good standard. hampson for me is neither proven or shown himself to be at a consistent afl standard and thats after 7 yrs.
its funny to watch peoples attitudes and opinions change yr after yr to suit. all i ask is we put in place good processes to asses players and stick to it.
Ok now I'm really worried. That's twice in one day I agree with you. I need a bex and good lie down.
I'm yet to meet a person who hasn't had a little chuckle at my expense about us giving up pick 28 for Hampson. Always use your early picks on kids.
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FWIW Rory Sloane went at 44
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Looks like we payed overs but perhaps Maric's groin is more of an issue than we are letting on. Maybe he is unable to now compete effectively against tall ruckmen or ruckmen that have a big leap because he can't get off the ground any longer. This problem would be particularly obvious during center bounces.
Perhaps Maric will now play more forward and take more ruck contests as the game progresses and ruckmen tire while Hampson will ruck more early and more center and backline.
I think the gap between Maric and Vickery (ruck work) plus Stephenson (around the ground) is too great and that is why Hampson has been brought in. Maric can't play out a season any longer (Dimma stated this) and will need regular breaks throughout the season. The problem also may get worse so the issue was immediate.
I think it is this that forced us over a barrel making us pay overs. A necessary evil I guess but a loss imo. Hope Hampson does a Maric and takes the role by the horns and embarrasses Carlton for letting him go..... :-\
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I just hope he's not a Trojan Collin's cleverly orchestrated by Carlscum, but I guess the words cleverly and Carlton are not regular bedfellows.
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Plenty of bedfellows at Carlscum. Just not clever ones.
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lot's of bed wetters, too.
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geez i cant believe people dont value top 30 picks its unbelievable.
any way not here to debate the merits of pick 28 in the nd.
what i am asking based solely on shaun hampsons 7 yrs of footy would you use pick 28 based on.
his performances to date. or in a way performances against peers.
his statistical data.
his strengths and weaknesses.
for me its a definate no.
imo the club has made this decision based almost entirley on potential. they see something in him that no one else does. good on em i hope it works out.
i have to say though im absolutely against useing these types of picks on players with these types of performances. with those sort of stats and with those weaknesses.
what would appease me somewhat is if they found a way to get back into the second round.
oh just on 2nd and 3rd rnd picks.
over the last 5 yrs ive looked long and hard at geelong so i will use them as an example.
can anyone tell me how many 2nd and 3rd round picks played in their 2011 premiership. the answer is 12 they went with the 7 first rnd picks that played.
im not going to argue i have my views on this topic which i have voiced regularly for me its a constant process. which is you take kids in the first 3 rounds and you do everything else later. the only exception to this would be a taylor adams for our first round pick. at 20 yrs of age hes very much a long term prospect.
id be happy to give away a second rnd pick for a proven player of a good standard. hampson for me is neither proven or shown himself to be at a consistent afl standard and thats after 7 yrs.
its funny to watch peoples attitudes and opinions change yr after yr to suit. all i ask is we put in place good processes to asses players and stick to it.
Great post, agree 100% :clapping
And as always some interesting food for thought Stripes. I think you might be onto something, Maric may well be finished as a leap ruckman.
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@ claw
and yet you were not overly happy with the Richmond ruck division prior to this trade, were you?
What situation would you have preferred where we keep said pick, and yet improved our draft stocks to a satisfactory position?
No doubt another state league ruckman going around you believe we could a) land in the rookie draft or there abouts, b) be good enough to be competition to Maric?
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37 Stephenson, Orren (R) 14 31yr 2mth 200cm 104kg
20 Maric, Ivan 118 27yr 9mth 200cm 102kg
39 Derickx, Tom 2 25yr 10mth 201cm 100kg
Hampson, Shaun 63 25yr 6mth 2 201cm 104kg
29 Vickery, Tyrone 75 23yr 4mth 200cm 97kg
24 Griffiths, Benjamin 19 22yr 1 200cm 104kg
34 Mcbean, Liam 0 19yr 1mth 202cm 86kg -
You will agree the ruck division looks more balanced, dare I say competitive than previously.
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Griffiths is the best ruck we have
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@ claw
and yet you were not overly happy with the Richmond ruck division prior to this trade, were you?
What situation would you have preferred where we keep said pick, and yet improved our draft stocks to a satisfactory position?
No doubt another state league ruckman going around you believe we could a) land in the rookie draft or there abouts, b) be good enough to be competition to Maric?
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37 Stephenson, Orren (R) 14 31yr 2mth 200cm 104kg
20 Maric, Ivan 118 27yr 9mth 200cm 102kg
39 Derickx, Tom 2 25yr 10mth 201cm 100kg
Hampson, Shaun 63 25yr 6mth 2 201cm 104kg
29 Vickery, Tyrone 75 23yr 4mth 200cm 97kg
24 Griffiths, Benjamin 19 22yr 1 200cm 104kg
34 Mcbean, Liam 0 19yr 1mth 202cm 86kg -
You will agree the ruck division looks more balanced, dare I say competitive than previously.
in fairness yes i agree. but bloody hell hapmson it seems will be replacing derickx how hard to find a more competetive ruckman.
if ivans groin is so bad though why not go.
billy longer for pick 11. absolutely worth this pick and we have our ten plus yr ruckman who can play some senior footy now.
take joilly who wants to continue playing as ivans back up and then hopefuully target a good kid like darcy cameron with hopefully the compensation pick we get for white and mcguane. we could sit back and not worry about our ruck stocks for the next 10 yrs apart from trying the rookie route evey few yrs.
you know if ivan is shot taking hampson is an even bigger risk based on what i have said in regards performance etc, its all or nothing.
at the end of the day hampson is a now / today trade but if he fails we are left up the creek without a paddle. we keep big o and we dont bring any yoiung ruckman into the system. its staring us in the face but all we can see is right now. all ican say is with this strategy it had damn well better work out.
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I really think that FJ and BH feel like that we have drafted many kids over the last few years, many of whom now cannot get senior time to help development. They have assessed this years draft as shallow and so will not load up with kids. Next years draft is allegedly much deeper especially with respect to KPPs, so I imagine they will go hard then for youth. They feel Hampson is heading into his best years as a ruckman so they think that he will complement our stocks better than anyone else for the next three years. Time will tell if the decision is correct.
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Reckon it might take a few years to see how good Billy Longer can become as a ruck.
We need to put some serious work into 1 or 2 of Griffo, Elton or McBean over the next couple of seasons and hope one of them can transition as a ruck/forward.
It appears Ty will now be a forward who will pinch hit in the ruck, we need an option who can do the opposite.
Hampson will fill the void in the next 2 years - no world beater but prevents us having the absurd scenario pre Maric of not actually having a ruck.
I reckon the 2nd rounder we have given up is some insight into our concern on Eeevans groins.
Someone mentioned Jolly but he won't come cheap, has injury concerns that at his age will probably get worse and is a bit of a dick.
Someone else mentioned the VFL but in this instance, you've got to back our recruiters who mustn't see enough to go via the rookie draft again or see as a low probability.
A post came from Al - we are giving up pick 31-33 for this guy and the consensus was a 3rd rounder in the 40s - I've kinda come around to agreeing that while it may bite us on the backside, the balance of probability says it won't
Club has don't nothing substantially wrong for me to think we can't back up and play finals again next year. Yes, list doesn't yet look strong enough to be in the Top 4 but I reckon our focus on developing our own players and topping up with recruit who can play a specific role has worked really well for the past 3 seasons and it worth persisting with.
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I agree y&b. Hampson is a role player and will support Maric considerably. I think Vickery may eventually become our ruck option as he develops with McBean taking his place as a forward/ruck. The best thing is that we now have healthy competition for ruck spots and much needed depth in case any of our rucks go down.
Maric's groin is chronic. It will not improved and will need to be managed the rest of his career. He may end up being our version of Brad Ottens where he pops up periodically throughout the season but is kept under wraps for finals :P I think Maric will end up playing in stints - 5 games then 1 or 2 weeks break - and I know the club has concerns over his leaping ability against the taller/athletic rucks when his groin flares up. He will still prove a valuable contributor and will ruck well for shorter periods than he is expected to play now but I feel he definitely needs more help at a higher standard than Vickery was providing.
An uninjured Hampson could be just the ticket to stretching opposition defences and giving us better clearance numbers in the middle.....just wish we didn't give our second round pick to Carlton :-X
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the big if is if he can stay on the park
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the big if is if he can stay on the park
Due to form or injury ;D
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Our big coup in landing Hampson is looking laughable now when compared to Hawthorn's effort in getting a bonafide star ruckman in McEvoy to their club.
We rushed into the Hampson deal and got screwed over. Maybe next year our first target should be to get Hawthorn's list manger to the tiges ?
We're getting our pants pulled down off the field at the moment.
North hires top gun Geoff Walsh and the highly regarded Leigh Tudor and Cameron Ling and look like getting Dal Santo for sweet FA
We have a hung board split between Speed and O'Shannessy. We can't decide and want to avoid factions so we've whacked some chick nobody's ever heard of into the presidency , then first thing she does is hire some other bird I've never heard of onto the board.
The players will be wearing netball bibs next year.
Next we hire St.Failure's reserves player Andrew McQualter to the coaching staff.
Andrew who ??
Now where is that bex. I really need a lie down
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Our big coup in landing Hampson is looking laughable now when compared to Hawthorn's effort in getting a bonafide star ruckman in McEvoy to their club.
We rushed into the Hampson deal and got screwed over. Maybe next year our first target should be to get Hawthorn's list manger to the tiges ?
We're getting our pants pulled down off the field at the moment.
North hires top gun Geoff Walsh and the highly regarded Leigh Tudor and Cameron Ling and look like getting Dal Santo for sweet FA
We have a hung board split between Speed and O'Shannessy. We can't decide and want to avoid factions so we've whacked some chick nobody's ever heard of into the presidency , then first thing she does is hire some other bird I've never heard of onto the board.
The players will be wearing netball bibs next year.
Next we hire St.Failure's reserves player Andrew McQualter to the coaching staff.
Andrew who ??
Now where is that bex. I really need a lie down
We are not in a position to trade like Hawthorn did today. Think of it this way, Savage was on the verge of going to Carlton for the pick 28 we gave for Hampson.
Hawks used Savage (pick 28) and their first rounder (17) to secure McEvoy.
Our only equivalent to this would have been to trade pick 11 + 28 for McEvoy. I've got the feeling this place would have gone into meltdown.
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Our big coup in landing Hampson is looking laughable now when compared to Hawthorn's effort in getting a bonafide star ruckman in McEvoy to their club.
We rushed into the Hampson deal and got screwed over. Maybe next year our first target should be to get Hawthorn's list manger to the tiges ?
We're getting our pants pulled down off the field at the moment.
North hires top gun Geoff Walsh and the highly regarded Leigh Tudor and Cameron Ling and look like getting Dal Santo for sweet FA
We have a hung board split between Speed and O'Shannessy. We can't decide and want to avoid factions so we've whacked some chick nobody's ever heard of into the presidency , then first thing she does is hire some other bird I've never heard of onto the board.
The players will be wearing netball bibs next year.
Next we hire St.Failure's reserves player Andrew McQualter to the coaching staff.
Andrew who ??
Now where is that bex. I really need a lie down
We are not in a position to trade like Hawthorn did today. Think of it this way, Savage was on the verge of going to Carlton for the pick 28 we gave for Hampson.
Hawks used Savage (pick 28) and their first rounder (17) to secure McEvoy.
Our only equivalent to this would have been to trade pick 11 + 28 for McEvoy. I've got the feeling this place would have gone into meltdown.
Correct, we're hardly having our pants pulled down when we have sweet FA to offer
It can only get better from here, we really need fringe player to really start stepping up and push for senior selection, only when this happens will we be able to start squeezing players out of the side and other sides will start hunting our players for once instead of us scratching about taking everyone else's sloppy seconds......
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Our big coup in landing Hampson is looking laughable now when compared to Hawthorn's effort in getting a bonafide star ruckman in McEvoy to their club.
We rushed into the Hampson deal and got screwed over. Maybe next year our first target should be to get Hawthorn's list manger to the tiges ?
We're getting our pants pulled down off the field at the moment.
North hires top gun Geoff Walsh and the highly regarded Leigh Tudor and Cameron Ling and look like getting Dal Santo for sweet FA
We have a hung board split between Speed and O'Shannessy. We can't decide and want to avoid factions so we've whacked some chick nobody's ever heard of into the presidency , then first thing she does is hire some other bird I've never heard of onto the board.
The players will be wearing netball bibs next year.
Next we hire St.Failure's reserves player Andrew McQualter to the coaching staff.
Andrew who ??
Now where is that bex. I really need a lie down
We are not in a position to trade like Hawthorn did today. Think of it this way, Savage was on the verge of going to Carlton for the pick 28 we gave for Hampson.
Hawks used Savage (pick 28) and their first rounder (17) to secure McEvoy.
Our only equivalent to this would have been to trade pick 11 + 28 for McEvoy. I've got the feeling this place would have gone into meltdown.
Correct, we're hardly having our pants pulled down when we have sweet FA to offer
It can only get better from here, we really need fringe player to really start stepping up and push for senior selection, only when this happens will we be able to start squeezing players out of the side and other sides will start hunting our players for once instead of us scratching about taking everyone else's sloppy seconds......
Exactly :cheers
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
I agree, he can take a mark but he's very slow and has absolutely no tank.
His upside is still his age but he needs to pull his finger out in the fitness stakes, Hawthorns fast pace game plan will be challenging for big boy, especially next season...
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We are not in a position to trade like Hawthorn did today. Think of it this way, Savage was on the verge of going to Carlton for the pick 28 we gave for Hampson.
Hawks used Savage (pick 28) and their first rounder (17) to secure McEvoy.
Our only equivalent to this would have been to trade pick 11 + 28 for McEvoy. I've got the feeling this place would have gone into meltdown.
You gotta give something to get something. I'm sure we could've offered someone up that would've satsified St.Kilda. Fact is we didn't even try.
We're stuffing this off season up big time.
I stand by my post 100%
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
I reckon he's good Gerk. Heaps better than Hampson at any rate.
It's not just that , it's everything we're doing off field atm.
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I agree, he can take a mark but he's very slow and has absolutely no tank.
His upside is still his age but he needs to pull his finger out in the fitness stakes, Hawthorns fast pace game plan will be challenging for big boy, especially next season...
He's been pretty much a lone ruckman for them for years. Much like Goldstein at North so I reckon his tank is fine.
Anyhow it seems like the recruiting dept have run out of ideas once they realised they couldn't swindle Adelaide again this year. Crows have cottoned onto us after Tambling and Gus.
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yeah dunno Dice, think he's nothing special, is on about $400k a year, and would have cost us our first round draft pick
we'll get a compo pick that will get us back into the second round, effectively getting hammer for free – or a swap for mcguane
dont really have any issues with the off-field stuff
maybe its the drugs – yours or mine i'm not sure ;D
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
I think he is a quality player. Last 2 seasons have been big steps in the right direction for him and he's still developing.
That said, would I trade pick 11 and pick 28 for him (before we acquired Hampson)? Answer is no, that is paying overs.
We are not in a position to trade like Hawthorn did today. Think of it this way, Savage was on the verge of going to Carlton for the pick 28 we gave for Hampson.
Hawks used Savage (pick 28) and their first rounder (17) to secure McEvoy.
Our only equivalent to this would have been to trade pick 11 + 28 for McEvoy. I've got the feeling this place would have gone into meltdown.
You gotta give something to get something. I'm sure we could've offered someone up that would've satsified St.Kilda. Fact is we didn't even try.
We're stuffing this off season up big time.
I stand by my post 100%
Of course you do, but it needs to be relative to what your requirements are. We still need to inject genuine talent into our list so trading pick 11 for anything other than a midfielder like Adams would have hurt us.
Hampson comes pretty cheap and can have an impact (yes, if fit) straight away. I think people look at his time at Carlton and think we will get the same performances. This is where I disagree. Carlton played him predominantly as a forward, whereas we want him in the ruck.
Not only is he a good tap ruckman, but he moves quite well for a big guy.
Also need to consider what this does to our structure. We will now be able to play 2 rucks and have 1 (Maric mainly) resting forward. Tyrone no longer has to 'pinch hit' in the ruck either so can focus solely on being a forward.
Riewoldt get's the best defender, Tyrone commands attention and a resting Maric/Hampson has who line up on him? We'll be extremely difficult to match up on now which is a massive positive, and for pick 28 we paid peanuts for it.
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Throw in mcbean. The resting ruck man then gets the 4th tall...
:shh
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Throw in mcbean. The resting ruck man then gets the 4th tall...
:shh
:clapping
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I agree, he can take a mark but he's very slow and has absolutely no tank.
His upside is still his age but he needs to pull his finger out in the fitness stakes, Hawthorns fast pace game plan will be challenging for big boy, especially next season...
He's been pretty much a lone ruckman for them for years. Much like Goldstein at North so I reckon his tank is fine.
Anyhow it seems like the recruiting dept have run out of ideas once they realised they couldn't swindle Adelaide again this year. Crows have cottoned onto us after Tambling and Gus.
You recon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
He's out on his feet by half time nearly every game, watch him closely in last quarters and see the effort he puts in, he just can't go. After half time he spends all his time between CHF and CHB early leaving the square because he can't push forward or back.
I'm not saying he can't improve on that but at this point he'll struggle in a fast paced side like Hawthorn.
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maybe its the drugs – yours or mine i'm not sure ;D
The lack of is making me narky :banghead
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You recon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
He's out on his feet by half time nearly every game, watch him closely in last quarters and see the effort he puts in, he just can't go. After half time he spends all his time between CHF and CHB early leaving the square because he can't push forward or back.
I'm not saying he can't improve on that but at this point he'll struggle in a fast paced side like Hawthorn.
If I hadn't watched him play I wouldn't be commenting on him. I have seen him tire badly at times but he never got much of a chop out at St.Kilda. He'll get that with Hale at Hawthorn
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
Saint spooner supporters I know are spitting, the only spit coming from the Carlton supporters was laughter drool.....
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would make a nice change CUB, scum supporters have been telling me for years how good hammer is lmfao
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You recon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
He's out on his feet by half time nearly every game, watch him closely in last quarters and see the effort he puts in, he just can't go. After half time he spends all his time between CHF and CHB early leaving the square because he can't push forward or back.
I'm not saying he can't improve on that but at this point he'll struggle in a fast paced side like Hawthorn.
If I hadn't watched him play I wouldn't be commenting on him. I have seen him tire badly at times but he never got much of a chop out at St.Kilda. He'll get that with Hale at Hawthorn
You seem to have watched him extensively, from what I have seen he seems to be a plodder - might be the AFL equivalent of a steeplechase horse. Goes forever, at one pace.
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
Top 5 ruckman for me
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
Top 5 ruckman for me
Really? huh. Takes a load of marks filling holes around the ground but looks fairly ineffective in the actual ruck to me. Wowee, maybe i'm missing something.
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Quality player. Brilliant trade by Hawthorn.
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
Top 5 ruckman for me
Really? huh. Takes a load of marks filling holes around the ground but looks fairly ineffective in the actual ruck to me. Wowee, maybe i'm missing something.
prob why I rate him so highly, seems like ages since we had a ruckman who can consistently take big grabs week in week out. Not as brilliant as some like Cox, natanui (and Mummy when he's on), but is a unit, goes all day and has an impact.
Agree with coach, hawks made out like bandits with this one imo
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Apart from Brian Taylor and Luke Darcy, does anyone actually think McEvoy is any good? Reckon he's fairly overrated TBH.
Top 5 ruckman for me
Really? huh. Takes a load of marks filling holes around the ground but looks fairly ineffective in the actual ruck to me. Wowee, maybe i'm missing something.
prob why I rate him so highly, seems like ages since we had a ruckman who can consistently take big grabs week in week out. Not as brilliant as some like Cox, natanui (and Mummy when he's on), but is a unit, goes all day and has an impact.
Yeah see i wouldn't rate him any higher than good. Certainly better than Hampson. But not in the top rucks because he gets beaten so often. Bloody young though in the scheme of things.
Saints not valuing rucks, maybe Thommo is on the way back :shh
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
If that's how they want to justify the trade then good for them but I have seen first hand many times Big Boy completely fade out of games because he's completely rooted.
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The Hawks just keep on winning premierships don't they. How many flags did they have when we last won in 1980?
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
If that's how they want to justify the trade then good for them but I have seen first hand many times Big Boy completely fade out of games because he's completely rooted.
Lets face it Big Boy McEvoy is a bloody good ruckman. Easily top 5 ruckman in the AFL. Well done to Hawthorn.
Hawthorn has made our drafting of 'what's his name' for pick 28 odd look f$&king stupid!!
If we were serious about improving our best 22 we would have done what Hawthorn did. Don't kid yourselves we had a better draft pick and players on our list that we wouldn't miss if they went tomorrow. And I just won't cop we couldn't fit him in our salary cap either. As I have said before, we have ONE A grade player!! And our B graders are pretenders- Lids and Jack. And Dusty don't know what day it is!
Richmond FC when it comes to trade period are spineless jellyfish. They need to grow a pair of testy's and have a go. So sick of the RFC being stupid and worst of all gutless!
I would rather die trying than this half arse poo they come up with.
Teams like Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and even Collingwood make us look like kids playing a mans game.
As you may have noticed, I'm fuming that a club ahead of us just keeps getting further away.
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
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Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
LOL,
quoting the guy responsible for trading him in.
What do you expect him to say?
Pretty crap endurance, drops plenty of puds and can't ruck for poo
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
If that's how they want to justify the trade then good for them but I have seen first hand many times Big Boy completely fade out of games because he's completely rooted.
Lets face it Big Boy McEvoy is a bloody good ruckman. Easily top 5 ruckman in the AFL. Well done to Hawthorn.
Hawthorn has made our drafting of 'what's his name' for pick 28 odd look f$&king stupid!!
If we were serious about improving our best 22 we would have done what Hawthorn did. Don't kid yourselves we had a better draft pick and players on our list that we wouldn't miss if they went tomorrow. And I just won't cop we couldn't fit him in our salary cap either. As I have said before, we have ONE A grade player!! And our B graders are pretenders- Lids and Jack. And Dusty don't know what day it is!
Richmond FC when it comes to trade period are spineless jellyfish. They need to grow a pair of testy's and have a go. So sick of being the RFC being stupid and worst of all gutless!
I would rather die trying than this half arse poo they come up with.
Teams like Sydney, Hawthorn and even Collingwood make us look like kids playing a mans game.
As you may have noticed, I'm fuming that a club ahead of us just keeps getting further away.
I'm sure the club is spewing they didn't think of trading our pick 17 and Savage to the Saints first ::) Wait Wot!! what do you mean we never had pick 17 and savage to trade?? Surely all clubs are equal at the trade table, you just need to be first to tell other clubs who you want and jobs done :lol
Your right Tone, what a shambles this club is ::)
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
Then your about the only one who wouldn't have. And as for top 5 ruckman, you've only got to check out his stats to work out where he is in he pecking order! David Hale averages more hit outs and he's only a part time ruckman :lol Or are you one of those guys that are going to tell me stats are meaningless?
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
#11 and Shane Edwards / Foley?
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
If that's how they want to justify the trade then good for them but I have seen first hand many times Big Boy completely fade out of games because he's completely rooted.
Lets face it Big Boy McEvoy is a bloody good ruckman. Easily top 5 ruckman in the AFL. Well done to Hawthorn.
Hawthorn has made our drafting of 'what's his name' for pick 28 odd look f$&king stupid!!
If we were serious about improving our best 22 we would have done what Hawthorn did. Don't kid yourselves we had a better draft pick and players on our list that we wouldn't miss if they went tomorrow. And I just won't cop we couldn't fit him in our salary cap either. As I have said before, we have ONE A grade player!! And our B graders are pretenders- Lids and Jack. And Dusty don't know what day it is!
Richmond FC when it comes to trade period are spineless jellyfish. They need to grow a pair of testy's and have a go. So sick of being the RFC being stupid and worst of all gutless!
I would rather die trying than this half arse poo they come up with.
Teams like Sydney, Hawthorn and even Collingwood make us look like kids playing a mans game.
As you may have noticed, I'm fuming that a club ahead of us just keeps getting further away.
I'm sure the club is spewing they didn't think of trading our pick 17 and Savage to the Saints first ::) Wait Wot!! what do you mean we never had pick 17 and savage to trade?? Surely all clubs are equal at the trade table, you just need to be first to tell other clubs who you want and jobs done :lol
Your right Tone, what a shambles this club is ::)
Pick 11 and S. Edwards may have got it done. Wait Wot!! You can do that?
Position of Ruckman definitely solved for the next 5 to 10 years.
You're right Loui, Hawthorn were the only club to have the pick and player to get that deal done. :lol :lol :wallywink
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You do see McEvoy huffing and puffing but he does go deep and works himself pretty hard, stupid decision by St Kilda because they lack quality height as it is, having said that I thought Big O trounced him in the ruck so it's not just the Natanuis and Ryders that can do over McEvoy.
A ruckman in his prime commands a 1st round pick, but gee I dunno about pick 11 for him.
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
TBH, I would have been filthy. Not worth that pick, not even close.
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he would have thrown a player in as well :lol
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You reckon his tank is fine?? Have you ever watched him play?
Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
If that's how they want to justify the trade then good for them but I have seen first hand many times Big Boy completely fade out of games because he's completely rooted.
Lets face it Big Boy McEvoy is a bloody good ruckman. Easily top 5 ruckman in the AFL. Well done to Hawthorn.
Hawthorn has made our drafting of 'what's his name' for pick 28 odd look f$&king stupid!!
If we were serious about improving our best 22 we would have done what Hawthorn did. Don't kid yourselves we had a better draft pick and players on our list that we wouldn't miss if they went tomorrow. And I just won't cop we couldn't fit him in our salary cap either. As I have said before, we have ONE A grade player!! And our B graders are pretenders- Lids and Jack. And Dusty don't know what day it is!
Richmond FC when it comes to trade period are spineless jellyfish. They need to grow a pair of testy's and have a go. So sick of being the RFC being stupid and worst of all gutless!
I would rather die trying than this half arse poo they come up with.
Teams like Sydney, Hawthorn and even Collingwood make us look like kids playing a mans game.
As you may have noticed, I'm fuming that a club ahead of us just keeps getting further away.
I'm sure the club is spewing they didn't think of trading our pick 17 and Savage to the Saints first ::) Wait Wot!! what do you mean we never had pick 17 and savage to trade?? Surely all clubs are equal at the trade table, you just need to be first to tell other clubs who you want and jobs done :lol
Your right Tone, what a shambles this club is ::)
Pick 11 and S. Edwards may have got it done. Wait Wot!! You can do that?
Position of Ruckman definitely solved for the next 5 to 10 years.
You're right Loui, Hawthorn were the only club to have the pick and player to get that deal done. :lol :lol :wallywink
Pick 11 for and anything McEvoy would have seen more than a truck load of chicken poo dumped on the front door at punt road :o
I'll pretend you haven't been baging the crap out of the way we've handled trade week then suggest that :lol
Like all trades only time will tell and I'm more than happy to eat my hat if McEvoy becomes an elite Ruckman but based on form from the last two years he is certainly far from elite..........
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
TBH, I would have been filthy. Not worth that pick, not even close.
So would trade pick 11 for a kid like Adams who has played 20 odd games?
Or a kid that has never even played one game of AFL?
But not give that pick for a ruckman who has played 90 odd games, a ruckman with excellent hands and a body to compete with any ruckman in the league. A ruckman that could play that position for the next 8 to 10 years.
A ruckman that would have to be in the top 5 ruckman in the comp.
Yer not worth pick 11.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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This site would have had more than resource limit reached had we traded our first round :lol
Dwaino, would you have given up pick 11 for McEvoy?
I curtainly wouldn't have complained.
TBH, I would have been filthy. Not worth that pick, not even close.
So would trade pick 11 for a kid like Adams who has played 20 odd games?
Or a kid that has never even played one game of AFL?
But not give that pick for a ruckman who has played 90 odd games, a ruckman with excellent hands and a body to compete with any ruckman in the league. A ruckman that could play that position for the next 8 to 10 years.
A ruckman that would have to be in the top 5 ruckman in the comp.
Yer not worth pick 11.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Mate your on drugs? Where are you getting this top 5 crap from?
McEvoy is a plodder at best, he gets smashed by other ruckman in tap outs, he was ranked 11th in overall tap outs last year and his tap outs to advantage was running at 33%, the lowest of all the main ruckman in the league.
Where he does go ok is around the ground, he seems to float allot across half back and takes allot of uncontested marks which inflates his states somewhat! Oh but that's right stats don't seem to matter here because after all he is Big Boy McEvoy the 5th best ruck in the league :lol
If I had the option of Adams or McEvoy with pick 11 it would be Adams all day long!! Adams would still be top 10 in this years draft so don't kid yourself Adams becoming a very good player, a year from now he'll be averaging 30 touches a game ;)
Also tell me, what happens to Maric once McEvoy comes in? Are you happy to play two plodders at once or would you play Maric one week and McEvoy the next? You wouldn't have to worrie about a long term ruck if you did this because Maric will still as freaks as a daisy in 10 years from now :lol
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If BT didn't blow wind up his arse with his Oh Boy Big Boy no one would be saying trade a 1st rounder for him.
BT working as a Saints consultant. :clapping
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Love that we identified a need and got Hammer, but did we miss out on McEvoy? Were we ever a chance? Is Longer back in our sites?
I'm starting to think we might have been a little hasty. Just a little.
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Not just me. Here's what the bloke who recruited him to Hawthorn said today..
On McEvoy, Wright was understandably positive.
"Ben is a great addition to our list, and will complement our centre square unit extremely well," he said.
"He has elite endurance, is very strong overhead and is a high quality ruckman."
LOL,
quoting the guy responsible for trading him in.
What do you expect him to say?
Pretty crap endurance, drops plenty of puds and can't ruck for poo
Where do u get the idea that he has crap endurance?
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The Hawks just keep on winning premierships don't they. How many flags did they have when we last won in 1980?
Best thing you've posted in ages... Hawks keep on winning flags but some or our supporters will sit there and argue they picked up a plodder.
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No. The argument is would you be happy to give up a starting 22 player and or first pick for what hawthorn has gained.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
McEvoy was a shrewed pick up by Hawthorn, im not disputing that. what im saying isPick 11 and a player who is in our best 22 is overs especially when you already have a ruckman in exactly the same mould who will still be at the club for another couple of years.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
Savage wasn't in their best 22, but he is better established player than any of the mids we have to offer not in our best 22.
We don't have the depth yet to pull out these sorts of trades. Still 1-2 years off that.
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So would trade pick 11 for a kid like Adams who has played 20 odd games?
No, not unless it was part of a bigger deal involving other pick swaps but I would still be much more likely to consider that trade than pick 11 for McEvoy. I rate the importance of quality midfielders higher than ruckmen - pure and simple.
But not give that pick for a ruckman who has played 90 odd games, a ruckman with excellent hands and a body to compete with any ruckman in the league. A ruckman that could play that position for the next 8 to 10 years.
McEvoy is 25 next July, he has 6 years max left - a 20 year old midfielder who has already shown he has above average attributes in his 20 odd games has at least 10 years left.
A ruckman that would have to be in the top 5 ruckman in the comp.
Mumford, Cox, Natanui, Jacobs, Hale, Goldstein, Lueunberger, Sandilands, Minson are all better ruckmen than McEvoy. I rate him on a par with Maric, Pyke, Kruezer, Warnock, West, Ryder and in the next couple of years a number of young ruckmen are going to pass him - Giles, Smith, Grundy, Vardy, Clarke.
Yer not worth pick 11.
Nope, not even close.
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To be fair Savage would be starting 18 in almost any other side. Was stiff not to get a call up but Hawthorn bat deep and that's why they won a flag.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
McEvoy was a shrewed pick up by Hawthorn, im not disputing that. what im saying isPick 11 and a player who is in our best 22 is overs especially when you already have a ruckman in exactly the same mould who will still be at the club for another couple of years.
I agree with that, pick 11 and a starting 22 player is overs for mine too - Im just sticking up for him as a player, don't like how some of our supporters start over compensating with the criticism. FWIW Im happy with hampson and think he'll fill a need and don't think we would have been able to get a deal done for McEvoy without using pick 12.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
Savage wasn't in their best 22, but he is better established player than any of the mids we have to offer not in our best 22.
We don't have the depth yet to pull out these sorts of trades. Still 1-2 years off that.
agree, don't get me wrong Im not having a whinge that we should have gotten mcEvoy instead of hampson bc I don't think we are in a position to do that like you mentioned
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FWIW Im happy with hampson and think he'll fill a need and don't think we would have been able to get a deal done for McEvoy without using pick 12.
Agree TM and I don't think McEvoy brings enough to the table to warrant pick 12. As it is, the "first round pick" the Saints are spruiking about will most likely end up being a 2nd rounder after compo picks are handed out and a 2nd rounder plus fringe player is about right for McEvoy imho.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
McEvoy was a shrewed pick up by Hawthorn, im not disputing that. what im saying isPick 11 and a player who is in our best 22 is overs especially when you already have a ruckman in exactly the same mould who will still be at the club for another couple of years.
I agree with that, pick 11 and a starting 22 player is overs for mine too - Im just sticking up for him as a player, don't like how some of our supporters start over compensating with the criticism. FWIW Im happy with hampson and think he'll fill a need and don't think we would have been able to get a deal done for McEvoy without using pick 12.
Fair enough, I have been fairly hard on him but only to justify he wasn't worth our first rounder. McEvoy is certainly a solid ruckman and he has plenty of room to improve but he does have his flaws as well. Good luck to him and his career at Hawthorn he'd be pinching himself at them moment knowing he's managed to escape the Seaford hell hole!!
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So if the Big O racked up 30 hit outs to Big Boy's 24 when we played them this season, doesn't that say something? Vickers also had 16 hit outs to Stanley's 6, So it completely baffles me how anyone would think McEvoy is worth anything close to Pick 11 when our second string Ruckman gives him a rogering in the hit outs.
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
No need to be a polesmoker
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Did I miss Savage starting in the GF?
The reason he's leaving is bc he couldn't get into their best 22. pick 17 and a fringe player is not paying overs for a 24y/o ruckman who is very handy
No need to be a polesmoker
pwn3d again mounopano
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You are on fire :clapping
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You are on fire :clapping
Crowley>>>>>>cotchin bc cotch is a dwarf
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You are incorrect as cot chin is almost 6'1
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You are incorrect as cot chin is almost 6'1
yep 185cms, a whole 2 cms bigger than the 183cm midgets. :whistle
Dwarfs>midgets?
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Some putrid things being posted here. Disgusting. Agree with the Tones to be honest. I love how Hampson is a good player now that we have recruited him. If he was at Carlton he'd be a 'spud' or a dud.
Laughable. McEvoy is a bloody good player. Watch him next year in a good side getting a quality chop out from Hale.
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Some putrid things being posted here. Disgusting. Agree with the Tones to be honest. I love how Hampson is a good player now that we have recruited him. If he was at Carlton he'd be a 'spud' or a dud.
Laughable. McEvoy is a bloody good player. Watch him next year in a good side getting a quality chop out from Hale.
Coach, you of all people should know that good coaching staff such as ours are perfectly capable at turning around players with specific deficiencies. Hampson's is his kicking. The rest of his game is actually pretty good. Also playing him in a position that best suits him will help unlike the scum who desperately shoved him into the forward line because they lacked height.
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If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
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You are incorrect as cot chin is almost 6'1
yep 185cms, a whole 2 cms bigger than the 183cm midgets. :whistle
Dwarfs>midgets?
6'1 is indeed less of a risk 5'11
I see your panties are in a twist. If u reread the thread you will find I didn't raise this concept.
If u have two players of equal ability; 190 and 180. You beleive recruites and list managers would prefer the smaller?
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If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
Because Brendon Lade is a quality coach. Is there anything or anyone you "support" at our club??? You seem to be bagging everything of late. Time for a Snickers dude.
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If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
Because Brendon Lade is a quality coach. Is there anything or anyone you "support" at our club??? You seem to be bagging everything of late. Time for a Snickers dude.
How do you know that? Teach you a few moves for centre bounces did he? What have I been bagging? There's a difference between calling things as you see it and bagging for no reason. There's also a difference between supporting the club and making retarderd calls on players like McEvoy.
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If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
Because Brendon Lade is a quality coach. Is there anything or anyone you "support" at our club??? You seem to be bagging everything of late. Time for a Snickers dude.
How do you know that? Teach you a few moves for centre bounces did he? What have I been bagging? There's a difference between calling things as you see it and bagging for no reason. There's also a difference between supporting the club and making foolerd calls on players like McEvoy.
Coach, I don't think you have any authority to comment on this thread.
Please remain calm and continue posting in the Shitltz thread...,
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It's a forum man. So Hampson's game is pretty good according to Tiga, just his kicking needs work. So he comes to Richmond for the coaching because Lade is a quality coach. So...Lade is going to teach Hampson how to kick? Given he is going into his 8th season and he is 25/26, you would think his kicking will remain a problem for the rest of his career. Just get Trav Clokes number and ask for a glove. Then maybe trading a second rounder for this dude might look ok.
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If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
Because Brendon Lade is a quality coach. Is there anything or anyone you "support" at our club??? You seem to be bagging everything of late. Time for a Snickers dude.
How do you know that? Teach you a few moves for centre bounces did he? What have I been bagging? There's a difference between calling things as you see it and bagging for no reason. There's also a difference between supporting the club and making foolerd calls on players like McEvoy.
My opinion is just as valid as your's then. I hardly see you having anything extra special that qualify's you to no more than an armchair opinion like myself. Lets face it we are all on a level playing field here. We are all amateur critics. If we were anything better we wouldn't be continually voicing our opinions on football forums. We would be talking to the people who mattered and they would be listening.
If he is seeking good coaching why on earth is he coming to Richmond?
This is not bagging the club??
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I think I know Ladey a bit better than you do. And yes I think he would be a good coach but I haven't played under him.
No, that's not bagging the club. That is asking a question. Malthouse is one of the best coaches in the games history, why leave his club if you are in search of good coaching?
And I guess we all are posting from the cheap seats but that hasn't always been the case
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hammer left for guaranteed game time
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hammer left for guaranteed game time
Exactly.
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Why would we guarantee him game time?
Its not unrealistic we play one ruck and maric remains first choice
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I think I know Ladey a bit better than you do. And yes I think he would be a good coach but I haven't played under him.
No, that's not bagging the club. That is asking a question. Malthouse is one of the best coaches in the games history, why leave his club if you are in search of good coaching?
How would I know that you know him better than me. You can say anything on a forum. Whether it is believed or not is all dependent on either how well you pitch it or how gullible the person is who is reading it.
And you are twisting things again Coach. I did not say that Hampson came to Richmond for better coaching. Remember I don't know him and I don't know the reasons why he came other than what has been publicly reported. Nice try Jana.
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Some putrid things being posted here. Disgusting. Agree with the Tones to be honest. I love how Hampson is a good player now that we have recruited him. If he was at Carlton he'd be a 'spud' or a dud.
Laughable. McEvoy is a bloody good player. Watch him next year in a good side getting a quality chop out from Hale.
McEvoy is crap in the actual ruck contests, pretty good around the ground. Hampson is crap everywhere but the ruck. Hopefully we can develop Hampson's around the ground work better than Hawthorn develop Big Boy's ruckwork.
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I think I know Ladey a bit better than you do. And yes I think he would be a good coach but I haven't played under him.
No, that's not bagging the club. That is asking a question. Malthouse is one of the best coaches in the games history, why leave his club if you are in search of good coaching?
How would I know that you know him better than me. You can say anything on a forum. Whether it is believed or not is all dependent on either how well you pitch it or how gullible the person is who is reading it.
And you are twisting things again Coach. I did not say that Hampson came to Richmond for better coaching. Remember I don't know him and I don't know the reasons why he came other than what has been publicly reported. Nice try Jana.
There's no need to get personal. If you want to know who I am then send 65 a PM, he seems to think he knows. Don't question my honesty.
I asked why he was coming to Richmond if he was after quality coaching. Probably worded it poorly, should have said "why is he leaving Carlton if he is after good coaching". You responded with"because Lade is a quality coach" as if you had either been coached by him or had been told this by Hampson. Again, don't get personal. Makes you look weak and pathetic.
Regards
Coach
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Laughing at you lot trying still trying to justify mcevoy over hampson
Makes our decision even more stuffed up
Stripes you got no idea mate if you think mcevoy is worth a second rounder.
Savage is like Titch worth nothing really so it's 17th pick most likely
22 for Mcevoy
Or
32 for Angus Hampson
We have really stuffed this one up
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Are you saying we had a chance at McEvoy? :banghead :banghead :banghead
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You can crap on Shane Edwards doesn't not exist buts who's going to replace him?
Tucks gone. Newman and king are on last legs. Its not like we have a plethora of guns to fill the void.
Savage would make our 22...
No white or nahas either
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Love this thread. So Positive
Even those that are negative are very positive about how bad this was.
Why is that even when the team has improved each year in the last 4 that people cants see the light? Its there guys, look harder. Trust those that have bought us up to keep us heading that way. We were only a crap goal umpire decision from top 3 last year. Look for the postives guys and trust that they know better than us "keyboard warriors", so far they have shown they do.
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Fluffy open your eyes
We got embarrassed in a first final to the blues
Until we take those insipid performances out of our clubs psyche we won't be getting a flag soon
6-10th spot yep for sure not much else
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Gerks ur a funny man
Until 2 days ago who would've thought hawks had a chance now look at them and look at us
We pulled the trigger early for what reason I have no idea
Perhaps people trying to justify their jobs
Dumb decision
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Looks like there were 4 ruckmen up for grabs this trade period
Mumford, Big Boi, Hampson, Longer
Mumford, $1.8 Million 3yr contract, likely pick 1 in PSD
Big Boi, $1.3 Million 3yr contract, First round pick + Buddy Compo first round pick + young mid
Hampson, $750k 3yr contract, Second round pick
Longer.... ??? Brisbane want a first rounder
So, pull my finger :nopity
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You are incorrect as cot chin is almost 6'1
yep 185cms, a whole 2 cms bigger than the 183cm midgets. :whistle
Dwarfs>midgets?
6'1 is indeed less of a risk 5'11
I see your panties are in a twist. If u reread the thread you will find I didn't raise this concept.
If u have two players of equal ability; 190 and 180. You beleive recruites and list managers would prefer the smaller?
Really? This whole ridiculous discussion started with this doozy
183cm for a mid is not a midget
It is. When the norm is 6'3 mids
say that again
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Snip :banghead
Enough with the insults and sniping
Stick to the topic
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WP can we get some glassin dudes emoticons and smash stubby on head ones for our pub fights?
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I think best case scenario Hampson has a blinder of a year (by his standards) and we break even on the trade.
Seems a stupid risk when we were happy to trade pick 28 we could have easily used it better.
Pick 12 would have easily acquired McEvoy. Even add in Griffths and get a 3rd rounder from St.Kilda to balance it out.
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I think best case scenario Hampson has a blinder of a year (by his standards) and we break even on the trade.
Seems a stupid risk when we were happy to trade pick 28 we could have easily used it better.
Pick 12 would have easily acquired McEvoy. Even add in Griffths and get a 3rd rounder from St.Kilda to balance it out.
And what makes you so sure that pick 28 will be a star?
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"Easily"
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yep we could have easily used it better but chose the difficult course instead.
:lol
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I think best case scenario Hampson has a blinder of a year (by his standards) and we break even on the trade.
Seems a stupid risk when we were happy to trade pick 28 we could have easily used it better.
Pick 12 would have easily acquired McEvoy. Even add in Griffths and get a 3rd rounder from St.Kilda to balance it out.
In that trade we are losing a potential starting 18 mid with #11, our potentially a starting key forward depending on development
For a slight upgrade on a second ruckmab. If you can indeed provide evidence hampson is inferior
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Its not unrealistic we play one ruck and maric remains first choice
It is if we want to go deep into September.
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I think best case scenario Hampson has a blinder of a year (by his standards) and we break even on the trade.
Seems a stupid risk when we were happy to trade pick 28 we could have easily used it better.
Pick 12 would have easily acquired McEvoy. Even add in Griffths and get a 3rd rounder from St.Kilda to balance it out.
And what makes you so sure that pick 28 will be a star?
I'm not implying pick 28 will be a star. Pick 28 will be pick 28. Be incredibly surprised if any pick pre 30 is not be a better pick up than Hampson.
I don't think I've ever written someone off before they've even played a game but happy to start with writing Hampson off. He can't play. Happy to be proved wrong but for pick 28 is a brain fade.
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Be incredibly surprised if any pick pre 30 is not be a better pick up than Hampson.
I'm willing to put money on at least 5 picks pre 30 not being a better pick up than hampson.
Nor will any pick pre 30 be able to play ruck immediately and reduce marics workload, thus reducing the risk of him breaking down permanently during the season 2014
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Be incredibly surprised if any pick pre 30 is not be a better pick up than Hampson.
I'm willing to put money on at least 5 picks pre 30 not being a better pick up than hampson.
Nor will any pick pre 30 be able to play ruck immediately and reduce marics workload, thus reducing the risk of him breaking down permanently during the season 2014
Any ruckman would reduce Marics workload no matter how crap. Even Angus if he played as much as hampson is going to
I'm about winning finals and ultimately a GF and Hampson is bloody hopeless man for a second rounder. I'm peeed cause I believe we could have easily got him for a third and that wouldn't been okay
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
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How many games has Hammer played in 7 years? 58 or something? Hopefully he comes on next year but I would have preferred taking a punt on a kid. If our recruiters are as good as BJ says they are then we should be able to pick up someone good with pick 28 (or whatever it will end up being). Vickery/Stephenson/Beaner should be able to help out Maric. I don't think Hampson has been targeted as his back up. It seems they honestly believe he is a good player who will contribute as a forward and as 2nd ruckman (which of course allows Vicks to play forward all day if all 3 play in the same side). I hope they are right but I'm not convinced.
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On what basis do you think they wouldn't?
Hampson is rubbish had hardly played so like mcguane or Nahas 3rd rounder is even par
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I take that back
I wouldn't say his totally crap just not good enough for a second
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On what basis do you think they wouldn't?
what sort of a childish reply is that?
you made the statement but not willing to back it with anything but a lowbrow deflection?
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Okay well past history says he is worth a third round based on the fact he has shown sfa, that's what I meant. Only one eyed lads believe he is worth that pick.
Also Al do you think second round is a valuable pick? Clearly you don't by the way your harping on.
Is that right?
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I see.
So they get this guy so Vicky can play dedicated forward.
So, has Vickery been playing second ruck because the club have wanted someone like Hampson?
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Be incredibly surprised if any pick pre 30 is not be a better pick up than Hampson.
I'm willing to put money on at least 5 picks pre 30 not being a better pick up than hampson.
Nor will any pick pre 30 be able to play ruck immediately and reduce marics workload, thus reducing the risk of him breaking down permanently during the season 2014
Any ruckman would reduce Marics workload no matter how crap. Even Angus if he played as much as hampson is going to
I'm about winning finals and ultimately a GF and Hampson is bloody hopeless man for a second rounder. I'm peeed cause I believe we could have easily got him for a third and that wouldn't been okay
But again, would any second round be able to come in an instantly have an affect at winning a final? The reality is that there is a roughly 50% hit rate of players drafted between 30-40 that play 100 AFL games. Of that 50%, I'd say you could rate another 50% who would be at the same level as Hampson. Is he worth a second rounder? Probably not. Would Carlton accept a third rounder for him? Probably not. The reality is, is that a late second early third would be the winner for both teams. We simply didn't have any within that bracket.
Again, its not to say RFC went to Carlton and offered a second round pick for him straight away - my bet is they offered a third, Carlton came back with a second and knowing it would be an early 30s selection said yes.
And just for the record, the Houli selection, Maric trade and the Knights pick up were all looked at in the same way. All look like paying dividends.
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Okay well past history says he is worth a third round based on the fact he has shown sfa, that's what I meant. Only one eyed lads believe he is worth that pick.
Also Al do you think second round is a valuable pick? Clearly you don't by the way your harping on.
Is that right?
no i don't. i've made that clear and explained why i think so.
Even though you are right, i'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from the question i asked you, though, something you still haven't answered BTW.
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Jobba, where did you get the figure of 50% to play 100 games? i have it at 30%
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Biggest issue is Shaun of the Dead is injury prone
Just like Knights
Risky and frisky
He'd want to play 80 games for the tiggies
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80 Games of Class :clapping
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or 80 games of ass?
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Anything less is a fail, the bar has been set
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15 things about Shaun Hampson
richmondfc.com.au
October 11, 2013
* He produced some outstanding results at the 2006 AFL Draft Camp, recording 3.00 seconds for the 20-metre sprint (lightning fast for a player his size) and an 86cm vertical jump, which placed him in the top 5% of players tested.
* He struggled with short-sightedness early in his league career and had la-ser eye surgery before the 2012 season to correct it.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-11/15-things-about-shaun-hampson
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Jobba, where did you get the figure of 50% to play 100 games? i have it at 30%
I was generous with the players I thought will play 100 games. I also rounded up.
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we are not interested in any more trades apparently. so in trading for a ruckman why not
instead of hampson why not longer with pick 12, he is capable of filling in for maric now . and theres few doubts he will be a top ruckman for the next 10 plus yrs. he is worth every bit of pick 12 imo..
instead of hampson why not jolly for 12 months and use pick 28 on darcy cameron a bloody real promising genuine junior ruckman. every chance we would get him here.
why not think outside the square and do what hawthorn did ben mcavoy for their pick 17.
even in taking hampson, given his form guide. id sure hope we take another young ruckman with say the compo pick we get for white and mcguane, if we get one.
again if its a pick in the 30s i hope cameron is there.
i still ask why a bloke whos struggled for 7 whole yrs with such a pick.
yes he fills a list need but he only fills that need if he works out.
this trade is all about risk reward. its high risk but im asking is there truly high reward to be had. i suppose time will tell.
again in saying all this i have no problem in the club getting hampson i do have a problem with what we have paid and the process or risk of useing good picks on battlers.
thats what hampson is to date a battler. i really hope he finally clicks and fulfills some of the potential he showed as a junior.
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What a ridiculous high risk strategy that would be to mortgage our pic 11 on a kid that averages 2 kicks and 1 mark a game. Any while we re at it why not put the balance of our ftg funds on the roulette wheel. No thanks. Hampson has a Ton of ability and under the tutelage of renowned ruck whisperer Brendan lade he is in the best place possible to peak his fledgling career :shh
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What a ridiculous high risk strategy that would be to mortgage our pic 11 on a kid that averages 2 kicks and 1 mark a game. Any while we re at it why not put the balance of our ftg funds on the roulette wheel. No thanks. Hampson has a Ton of ability and under the tutelage of renowned ruck whisperer Brendan lade he is in the best place possible to peak his fledgling career :shh
oh dear. you havent even seen longer play have you bo.
as a pure ruckman hes shown as much as ruckman in the afl just two yrs in. yeah its a small sample size just 9 games but he looks a beauty already.
hmm pick 11 on a 20yr old ruckman who was a highly rated junior hence he went at pick 8 in 2011 who has shown he belongs already. in just 9 games he averages over 20 h/o a game and he competes real well. he takes good marks and most of his possesions are contested. just 9 games yes he could find a bit more ball but we all know that will come as he matures.
thing is after just 9 games hes getting it just over 7 times a game your boy hampson after a whopping 7yrs averages just 8 possesions.
yep we could really take that risk with pick 12
or use pick 12 on a 18yo kid in the nd who has none of this to judge him by.
look i realise your acting the goat acting like the bringer of all things good at richmond but now and then you have to use just a bit of common sense or people are just gunna ignore you bud.
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Not going to be nicnat level.
Pass.
Keep #11
Pass
Pass on stitch an #11 for McVey too
At least the club has gone the cheaper root than the proposed trades here
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What a ridiculous high risk strategy that would be to mortgage our pic 11 on a kid that averages 2 kicks and 1 mark a game. Any while we re at it why not put the balance of our ftg funds on the roulette wheel. No thanks. Hampson has a Ton of ability and under the tutelage of renowned ruck whisperer Brendan lade he is in the best place possible to peak his fledgling career :shh
oh dear. you havent even seen longer play have you bo.
as a pure ruckman hes shown as much as ruckman in the afl just two yrs in. yeah its a small sample size just 9 games but he looks a beauty already.
hmm pick 11 on a 20yr old ruckman who was a highly rated junior hence he went at pick 8 in 2011 who has shown he belongs already. in just 9 games he averages over 20 h/o a game and he competes real well. he takes good marks and most of his possesions are contested. just 9 games yes he could find a bit more ball but we all know that will come as he matures.
thing is after just 9 games hes getting it just over 7 times a game your boy hampson after a whopping 7yrs averages just 8 possesions.
yep we could really take that risk with pick 12
or use pick 12 on a 18yo kid in the nd who has none of this to judge him by.
look i realise your acting the goat acting like the bringer of all things good at richmond but now and then you have to use just a bit of common sense or people are just gunna ignore you bud.
Acting the goat, how about telling us why hawthorn then baulked at offering pick 17 and went the trusted route instead. U18 form no longer stacks up 3 years into a career . What next, we draft Lucas cook ::)
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At least the club has gone the cheaper root than the proposed trades here
I'm sorry but here is another great typo.
:lol
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lol that had to be highlighted
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Be incredibly surprised if any pick pre 30 is not be a better pick up than Hampson.
I'm willing to put money on at least 5 picks pre 30 not being a better pick up than hampson.
Nor will any pick pre 30 be able to play ruck immediately and reduce marics workload, thus reducing the risk of him breaking down permanently during the season 2014
Any ruckman would reduce Marics workload no matter how crap. Even Angus if he played as much as hampson is going to
I'm about winning finals and ultimately a GF and Hampson is bloody hopeless man for a second rounder. I'm peeed cause I believe we could have easily got him for a third and that wouldn't been okay
Agree.
28 is huge overs.
A 3rd rounder probably still is. Hampson is crap. Happy to be proved wrong.
He's not much of an upgrade on Big O..
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Apparently he had a good game against Poot once so I went and had a look at the highlights, one highlight was him giving a free against in the ruck contest.
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Apparently he had a good game against Poot once so I went and had a look at the highlights, one highlight was him giving a free against in the ruck contest.
Yeah but that free was SPECIAL........
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On the basis that he's a crap footballer and the fact that he hasn't held down a best 22 spot in an average Carlton line up.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable. Understand this draft is quite shallow but Hampson is not worth a McBean pick.
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McBean is a promising footballer in the VFl, he has a long way to go before we can bank him as a great draft pick.
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McBean is a promising footballer in the VFl, he has a long way to go before we can bank him as a great draft pick.
x2
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McBean should be mentoring Big Benny G in how to get a kick in the ressies
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On the basis that he's a crap footballer and the fact that he hasn't held down a best 22 spot in an average Carlton line up.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable. Understand this draft is quite shallow but Hampson is not worth a McBean pick.
i doubt you come come with stuffed up logic you tried
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Luke ball yeah no I wouldn't touch him with a second rounder third I would though
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McBean is a promising footballer in the VFl, he has a long way to go before we can bank him as a great draft pick.
Who said he was a great pick? Only reason he didn't get a game last year was because Vickery gets a game no matter what and Hardwick went the safe option of Edwards/McG instead of giving McBean a crack. I would prefer to draft a kid who shows what Beaner did this year than give that pick up for Hampson.
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Mcbean is a rare breed. Mcbeans don't grow on trees ya know. :shh
2m huff life wire goal kicking machines are a rare commodity
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stuff knows what line of thought possessed Hardwit to NOT play him a couple of times
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2m huff life wire goal kicking machines are a rare commodity
Yes, I can honestly say I've never seen a 2m huff life wire goal kicking machine.
;D
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McBean is a promising footballer in the VFl, he has a long way to go before we can bank him as a great draft pick.
I think after the year he had in the VFL as a 1st year player and a KPP at pick 33 I think its OK to say, at this present time the selection has been justified.
Unless we can't comment on players until they've finished there careers whats the point of having an opinion on anyone...
My point is that there are players like Liam McBean who get picked at pick 33 and are capable of having a season in the VFL like he did and show great promise. In comparison to someone like Hampson who after 7 years at Carlton managed 63 uneventful games.
How else can you compare a hypothetical pick 28 lol?
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I would just wait a few years to see how far he progresses.
My point would be he has done SFA at senior level and we as supporters have a track record of putting the cart before the horse - whenever I heard the words "cult figure" and "Richmond footballer" in the same sentence I shudder.
Not saying he can't or won't make it, just that he's only shown some promise in an ordinary state competition which isn't enough to prove a point about the worth of a second round draft pick.
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On the basis that he's a crap footballer and the fact that he hasn't held down a best 22 spot in an average Carlton line up.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable. Understand this draft is quite shallow but Hampson is not worth a McBean pick.
i doubt you come come with stuffed up logic you tried
I'm sorry can you rephrase that? How else would you have liked me to answer the question?
Carlton are in a big overhaul of their list and Hampson was unlikely to be required and they would have taken a lower pick to get rid of Hampson?
Take a look at his stats he's played 7 years, highest amount of games played in a season is 15. Concerning with form/injury prone. In the last 4 seasons he's played a total of 36 games.. 4 season between 21 and 25 years of age = 36 games. Thats 1 and a third of a season...
Avgs 15 hit outs across his career and 16 hit outs over the past 4 years. You could argue he's 2nd string ruckman so that isn't too bad for a 2nd stringer or a FWD/RUCKMAN. Combine those average/OK stats with his goal kicking ability - which is a pretty ordinary avg of 0.5 goals a game. With a shooting for goal accuracy % of 55% which doesn't include shots that didn't make the distance and out on the full.
Compare him to Ivan Maric who we got for pick 37 who came in 2012 after Sam Jacobs took number 1 ruck spot in 2011. Maric played every game in 2009 and 2010 as the main ruckman averaging 19 hit outs a game and 0.4 goals a game. Not earth shattering numbers but better than Jacobs. Certainly with the fact that he played 2 full seasons of AFL, something Hampson has not been able to do. Sure Maric was 2nd string to Jacobs and only played 6 games in his last year which is similar to Jacobs last year at Carlton.
Add the fact that Carlton are absolute scum, we've given up a 2nd round draft pick far too easily and quickly for a player who is very average.
Should have been a 3rd rounder and its a 50-50 trade.
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I would just wait a few years to see how far he progresses.
My point would be he has done SFA at senior level and we as supporters have a track record of putting the cart before the horse - whenever I heard the words "cult figure" and "Richmond footballer" in the same sentence I shudder.
Not saying he can't or won't make it, just that he's only shown some promise in an ordinary state competition which isn't enough to prove a point about the worth of a second round draft pick.
Agree with that completely but in terms of analysing a 1st year player, surely we can have the opinion that over the past 12 months McBean has shown that he has been a clever pick 33 and shows promise?
The point I was trying to make is simply that whilst some people don't rate picks 25+ there are still players that are talented if all the stars align and we shouldn't be throwing away 2nd round draft picks for a packet of used twisties.
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How else can you compare a hypothetical pick 28 lol?
LOL for sure.
well you could look at all the players taken around that pick over a period of time, and look at the success rate.
Or you could do what you have, take one first year player who has shown promise at a lower level but is is yet to even play AFL, deem that an outstanding success while ignoring the countless failures to come to the conclusion that the pick does indeed have great value
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On the basis that he's a crap footballer and the fact that he hasn't held down a best 22 spot in an average Carlton line up.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable. Understand this draft is quite shallow but Hampson is not worth a McBean pick.
So why didn't you use the McIntosh pick, it was 31 and thus closer and thus more representative of the value of the traded pick 28.
Or the pick 28 from 2012 - Tim O'Brien
or from 2011 - Fraser McInnes.
or from 2010 - Ryan Lester.
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on what basis do you think that Carlton were willing to accept our third round pick?
On the basis that he's a crap footballer and the fact that he hasn't held down a best 22 spot in an average Carlton line up.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable. Understand this draft is quite shallow but Hampson is not worth a McBean pick.
i doubt you come come with stuffed up logic you tried
I'm sorry can you rephrase that? How else would you have liked me to answer the question?
Carlton are in a big overhaul of their list and Hampson was unlikely to be required and they would have taken a lower pick to get rid of Hampson?
Take a look at his stats he's played 7 years, highest amount of games played in a season is 15. Concerning with form/injury prone. In the last 4 seasons he's played a total of 36 games.. 4 season between 21 and 25 years of age = 36 games. Thats 1 and a third of a season...
Avgs 15 hit outs across his career and 16 hit outs over the past 4 years. You could argue he's 2nd string ruckman so that isn't too bad for a 2nd stringer or a FWD/RUCKMAN. Combine those average/OK stats with his goal kicking ability - which is a pretty ordinary avg of 0.5 goals a game. With a shooting for goal accuracy % of 55% which doesn't include shots that didn't make the distance and out on the full.
Compare him to Ivan Maric who we got for pick 37 who came in 2012 after Sam Jacobs took number 1 ruck spot in 2011. Maric played every game in 2009 and 2010 as the main ruckman averaging 19 hit outs a game and 0.4 goals a game. Not earth shattering numbers but better than Jacobs. Certainly with the fact that he played 2 full seasons of AFL, something Hampson has not been able to do. Sure Maric was 2nd string to Jacobs and only played 6 games in his last year which is similar to Jacobs last year at Carlton.
Add the fact that Carlton are absolute scum, we've given up a 2nd round draft pick far too easily and quickly for a player who is very average.
Should have been a 3rd rounder and its a 50-50 trade.
Would not have got the deal done, haw were circling. Facts are his form stacks up better than Marics did prior to joining us. Hammer can leap and clunks his marks , he can play a bit just quietly, roll the tape and watch his highlights :shh
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From what I understand Bo has very reliable contacts within the bowels of the HFC ,so hes probably on the money here
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Would not have got the deal done, haw were circling. Facts are his form stacks up better than Marics did prior to joining us. Hammer can leap and clunks his marks , he can play a bit just quietly, roll the tape and watch his highlights :shh
What tape.
In fact what is tape old man?
:cheers
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Would not have got the deal done, haw were circling. Facts are his form stacks up better than Marics did prior to joining us. Hammer can leap and clunks his marks , he can play a bit just quietly, roll the tape and watch his highlights :shh
What tape.
In fact what is tape old man?
:cheers
It's a metaphor for looking at the highlights reel u silly bugger :lol
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It's a metaphor for looking at the highlights reel u silly bugger :lol
"Highlights reel" makes you even older.
over 85yo at least
:cheers
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How else can you compare a hypothetical pick 28 lol?
LOL for sure.
well you could look at all the players taken around that pick over a period of time, and look at the success rate.
Or you could do what you have, take one first year player who has shown promise at a lower level but is is yet to even play AFL, deem that an outstanding success while ignoring the countless failures to come to the conclusion that the pick does indeed have great value
Sure... if you want a history lesson and 1 example wasn't good enough, we can go back to a year earlier than McBean draft with Hawthorns Pick 33 selection in Brad Hill. Now premiership player.
Year before that 2010 draft, you may have heard of Jeremy Howe at Pick 33. Or Jack Darling at Pick 26.
2009 Draft, Mitch Duncan at 28, another premiership player. Another premiership player in Jack Gunston at pick 29, and unlucky not to be a Norm Smith Medalist.
2008 draft, Dayne Beams at pick 28. You guessed it another premiership player and All Australian mind you. Pick 30, Dan Hannerbury, premiership player and All Australian. Liam Shiels Pick 33, yet another premiership player.
I could go on... open your eyes mate. I look forward to your response trying to suggest Hampson is even close to any of those players mentioned.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
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2010 Draft
2 27 North Melbourne Kieran Harper North Melbourne 40
2 28 Brisbane Ryan Lester Brisbane 38
2 29 West Coast Scott Lycett West Coast 10
2 30 Richmond Jake Batchelor Richmond 39
2 31 Essendon Ariel Steinberg Essendon 0
2 32 Brisbane Joshua Green Brisbane 34
2011 Draft
1 26 Richmond Todd Elton Richmond 1
27 Priority Adelaide Sam Kerridge Adelaide 12
28 Priority West Coast Fraser McInnes West Coast 0
29 Priority Fremantle Alex Forster Fremantle 1
30 Compensation Brisbane Elliot Yeo Brisbane 27
2 31 Essendon Jackson Merrett Essendon 14
2 32 Geelong Joel Hamling Geelong 0
2012 Draft
2 27 GWS James Stewart GWS 1
2 28 Hawthorn Tim O'Brien Hawthorn 0
2 29 Port Adelaide Tom Clurey Port Adelaide 0
2 30 Port Adelaide Mason Shaw Port Adelaide 0
2 31 Richmond Kamdyn Mcintosh Richmond 0
2 32 Brisbane Michael Close Brisbane 0
Not really a who's who.
I just went a couple of picks either side of pick 30, which is actually about what we traded (pick 28 will drop a bit after the free agent picks)
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In what way could Richmond upgrade its unhealthy, weak ruck stocks
And yet not trade its first or secoubd pick?
If we are looking at state league player what if he's drafted by someone else before our rookie draft pick. What if he's not good enough?
If we draft 18 year old ruxk chances are no impact for these years in senior team. Even longer average two kicks. Hardwick is in topping up mode
Is the risk of going into '14 without a upgrade ruck division a greater risk than not going for hampson? I don't think anyone reckons we didn't need at least one more ruck
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I don't understand the angst.
Richmond identified a list weakness and addresse it.
I seriously doubt they offered our second pick straight up. They'd have played hardball a little before realising that Carlton, aware of our need, would take advantage of us. Furthermore if we didn't broker a trade Hampson would either stay at Carlton or be delisted whilst contracted (unlikely) and picked up in the PSD. Plenty of clubs would take him as a ruck backup, especially the cellar-dwellers, knowing full well that he's tall, has a mature body and will contribute probably 5+ years of football if needed.
Richmond did what they had to do. If they didn't grab a ruckman people would be crying. Longer didn't want to play for RFC. Blokes like McEvoy would cost us pick 11. Imagine the whinging if we traded that.
I'm happy with the trade. We got the type of player we need and I have faith in our list management group, especially after seeing what they've done the last four years. Seriously if you get 1-2 bona fide AFL players each year you're doing alright. Plenty of spuds in the draft and none ready to shoulder ruck responsibilities most likely.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
We'll I'm not sure what you are arguing then,
My argument is that there are examples of successful picks around 28 that have resulted in successful playing careers - premierships, all Australians. Thus IMO pick 28 shouldn't be handed away for a guy who has been in the system for 7 years and has failed to play more than 15 games in any one season.
I'm not saying its a guaranteed success, I'm simply saying that we have thrown away a chance at getting one of these players mentioned for a guy who in my opinion has already failed in the AFL system and for only a part time role at our club.
It's impossible to predict the future of Hampson but with the names mentioned id prefer to roll the dice with Pick 28 and maybe get a Hannerbury or a Gunston over hoping Hampson may click in his 8th year of football. If pick 28 failed I doubt we'd regret not taking Hampson. Pick 28 becomes the next Dayne Beams and watch the newspapers calling the Hampson trade an dodgy one.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
We'll I'm not sure what you are arguing then,
My argument is that there are examples of successful picks around 28 that have resulted in successful playing careers - premierships, all Australians. Thus IMO pick 28 shouldn't be handed away for a guy who has been in the system for 7 years and has failed to play more than 15 games in any one season.
I'm not saying its a guaranteed success, I'm simply saying that we have thrown away a chance at getting one of these players mentioned for a guy who in my opinion has already failed in the AFL system and for only a part time role at our club.
It's impossible to predict the future of Hampson but with the names mentioned id prefer to roll the dice with Pick 28 and maybe get a Hannerbury or a Gunston over hoping Hampson may click in his 8th year of football. If pick 28 failed I doubt we'd regret not taking Hampson. Pick 28 becomes the next Dayne Beams and watch the newspapers calling the Hampson trade an dodgy one.
It's all about chance. While we MAY pick up a good player at 28-33, the chances are slim. There is almost no chance of picking up a good ruck in this draft at that pick too (especially one that is ready to go from game one). So the club saw it's weakness and bolstered the ruck division. We must nail pick 11. We still don't know what our compo pick will be which makes further trades difficult.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
We'll I'm not sure what you are arguing then,
My argument is that there are examples of successful picks around 28 that have resulted in successful playing careers - premierships, all Australians. Thus IMO pick 28 shouldn't be handed away for a guy who has been in the system for 7 years and has failed to play more than 15 games in any one season.
I'm not saying its a guaranteed success, I'm simply saying that we have thrown away a chance at getting one of these players mentioned for a guy who in my opinion has already failed in the AFL system and for only a part time role at our club.
It's impossible to predict the future of Hampson but with the names mentioned id prefer to roll the dice with Pick 28 and maybe get a Hannerbury or a Gunston over hoping Hampson may click in his 8th year of football. If pick 28 failed I doubt we'd regret not taking Hampson. Pick 28 becomes the next Dayne Beams and watch the newspapers calling the Hampson trade an dodgy one.
It's all about chance. While we MAY pick up a good player at 28-33, the chances are slim. There is almost no chance of picking up a good ruck in this draft at that pick too (especially one that is ready to go from game one). So the club saw it's weakness and bolstered the ruck division. We must nail pick 11. We still don't know what our compo pick will be which makes further trades difficult.
McBeanarunie was 33
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McBeanstalker is yet to play a seniors game so whilst he shows the goods at VFL level in his case it's difficult to use as evidence. With a 30+ pick history would suggest its more luck than good management in most cases.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
We'll I'm not sure what you are arguing then,
My argument is that there are examples of successful picks around 28 that have resulted in successful playing careers - premierships, all Australians. Thus IMO pick 28 shouldn't be handed away for a guy who has been in the system for 7 years and has failed to play more than 15 games in any one season.
I'm not saying its a guaranteed success, I'm simply saying that we have thrown away a chance at getting one of these players mentioned for a guy who in my opinion has already failed in the AFL system and for only a part time role at our club.
It's impossible to predict the future of Hampson but with the names mentioned id prefer to roll the dice with Pick 28 and maybe get a Hannerbury or a Gunston over hoping Hampson may click in his 8th year of football. If pick 28 failed I doubt we'd regret not taking Hampson. Pick 28 becomes the next Dayne Beams and watch the newspapers calling the Hampson trade an dodgy one.
So you have changed your stance from the pick being valuable to "roll the dice" and "maybe?"
You could take most picks up to 50, as well as a few later ones, find a success, ignore the failures and use that illogical process to argue that any pick is valuable. It is exactly the sucker thinking that has people fill the coffers of the lotto and pokie operators
As Y&BB blood said, it is about the chances of success, not the few names that beat the odds. The chances of getting a ruckman in the draft that can step straight in and ease marics workload next year are very slim, yet alone with that pick.
:lol @ GAF about what the papers may or may not print in the future. No one will know who we have used that pick on anyway, so anything said about that that will just be ill informed hypothetical BS from the best crap artists going around,whatever way it pans out.
The only thing that is important from here on in, is what sort of service Hampson gives us. That alone is how the trade should be judged.
McBeanarunie was 33
Wow, there's an insight no one had picked up on.
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that is not what i am saying.
Once again you are ignoring all the failures and just cherry picking the few successes.
It is even debatable if being a premiership player alone is a guide to how sucessful the draft pick is, as there are premiership players who do not have long carreers.
But that distracts from the important point that you are not looking at the overall success rate, just bringing a few names out.
It's not my eyes that need opening, they are wide open and can see the whole picture, not just the snippets that suit me.
We'll I'm not sure what you are arguing then,
My argument is that there are examples of successful picks around 28 that have resulted in successful playing careers - premierships, all Australians. Thus IMO pick 28 shouldn't be handed away for a guy who has been in the system for 7 years and has failed to play more than 15 games in any one season.
I'm not saying its a guaranteed success, I'm simply saying that we have thrown away a chance at getting one of these players mentioned for a guy who in my opinion has already failed in the AFL system and for only a part time role at our club.
It's impossible to predict the future of Hampson but with the names mentioned id prefer to roll the dice with Pick 28 and maybe get a Hannerbury or a Gunston over hoping Hampson may click in his 8th year of football. If pick 28 failed I doubt we'd regret not taking Hampson. Pick 28 becomes the next Dayne Beams and watch the newspapers calling the Hampson trade an dodgy one.
So you have changed your stance from the pick being valuable to "roll the dice" and "maybe?"
You could take most picks up to 50, as well as a few later ones, find a success, ignore the failures and use that illogical process to argue that any pick is valuable. It is exactly the sucker thinking that has people fill the coffers of the lotto and pokie operators
As Y&BB blood said, it is about the chances of success, not the few names that beat the odds. The chances of getting a ruckman in the draft that can step straight in and ease marics workload next year are very slim, yet alone with that pick.
:lol @ GAF about what the papers may or may not print in the future. No one will know who we have used that pick on anyway, so anything said about that that will just be ill informed hypothetical BS from the best crap artists going around,whatever way it pans out.
The only thing that is important from here on in, is what sort of service Hampson gives us. That alone is how the trade should be judged.
McBeanarunie was 33
Wow, there's an insight no one had picked up on.
I haven't changed my stance at all, I consider a 1% chance more valuable than flaming Hampson, thus thinking pick 28 is more valuable and us losing out in the trade and paying overs. Said that since my first post.
The issue here is that your rate Hampson good enough for a 2nd round pick. I don't. He's a crab and next year I'm confident he'll play 4-8 meaningless games, just like he has done for Carlton for 7 years.
We've filled a hole in the list.. But by how much? Is Hampson that much of an upgrade on Stephensen? I don't think so. Others might. But certainly not an upgrade that is worth a 2nd round pick.
Have no issue trading picks, have no issue trading players. I would have happily bundled a combination of our 1st, 2nd rounders, players and the kitchen sink to get a 2nd quality ruckman or the best FWD/RUCK in the game. I'm just not interested in filling the list with a crab and giving up a 2nd round pick to do it makes it even worse.
We've paid overs for Hampson, I would have preferred to use the more valuable asset (pick 28) in a more efficient way, either taking a chance in the draft which has shown there is a chance of success, or trade it for better quality. That's just my opinion.
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No where have i even mentioned how I rate Hampson, not once!
Also, you said that the pick was valuable, using one example of a bloke yet to play a game at AFL level to justify that.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable.
All Ive said is the the pick is not that valuable due to the low strike rate of getting long term players.
Now you are really hedging your bets as well. If you think he will play 4-6 meaningless games, then isn't that basically saying he should not have even been traded for at all? - which is completely different to trying to argue that there is some great difference in the value of a 2nd round pick compared to a 3rd round pick.
The crux of the issue has been, up till now anyway, the value of a 2nd round pick, or more precisely a pick around 30,, but now you add to the fray that even if there was only a 1% chance of the pick we gave being sucessful, you would still prefer that to to taking Hampson, which again, is that not basically saying you think we should not even have got him?
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No where have i even mentioned how I rate Hampson, not once!
Also, you said that the pick was valuable, using one example of a bloke yet to play a game at AFL level to justify that.
The fact that McBean was pick 33 shows that picks in the late 20s and early 30s are highly valuable.
All Ive said is the the pick is not that valuable due to the low strike rate of getting long term players.
Now you are really hedging your bets as well. If you think he will play 4-6 meaningless games, then isn't that basically saying he should not have even been traded for at all? - which is completely different to trying to argue that there is some great difference in the value of a 2nd round pick compared to a 3rd round pick.
The crux of the issue has been, up till now anyway, the value of a 2nd round pick, or more precisely a pick around 30,, but now you add to the fray that even if there was only a 1% chance of the pick we gave being sucessful, you would still prefer that to to taking Hampson, which again, is that not basically saying you think we should not even have got him?
I thought I was pretty clear. Apologies as it seems I wasn't. A Pick 28, in my opinion is highly valuable because of the fact you have a chance (what ever it may be) to pick up the type of players I listed in a previous post. I rate that chance more valuable than what ever Hampson brings to the table.
I can only go back to what I originally said and that was Pick 28 is overs for Hampson. I wouldn't have given up anything for Hampson and banked on Stephensen.
Why cause Hampson is a dud. And Pick 28 has a chance not to be one.
I can't be any more clearer for you. If you don't agree than that is life and I'm sure we will both wake up in the morning.
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Would u say the same if maric does his knee five min into the season ?
How do you propose repairing the non benchmark ruck brigade?
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Would u say the same if maric does his knee five min into the season ?
How do you propose repairing the non benchmark ruck brigade?
Have no issue with recruiting another ruckman for depth as Derickx clearly isn't good enough, just not Hampson and certainly not for Pick 28.
Can't be giving away 2nd round picks in fear of players doing season ending injuries 5 mins into round 1.
If we pick up Hampson we may as well have kept Angus Graham.
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While you can't plan for injury as such
You can't go into a season with orren and Derickx as the solo back up
Maric is not a dime a dozen mid/hbf buy a vital cog
While I am not necessary in favor of the trade thosenot in favor don't seem to offer alternative ruck options in terms of trading or draft. Others want to sell the farm for longer / mcvoey. Personally I am trouble d by the notion of losing our first pick
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2010 Draft
2 27 North Melbourne Kieran Harper North Melbourne 40
2 28 Brisbane Ryan Lester Brisbane 38
2 29 West Coast Scott Lycett West Coast 10
2 30 Richmond Jake Batchelor Richmond 39
2 31 Essendon Ariel Steinberg Essendon 0
2 32 Brisbane Joshua Green Brisbane 34
2011 Draft
1 26 Richmond Todd Elton Richmond 1
27 Priority Adelaide Sam Kerridge Adelaide 12
28 Priority West Coast Fraser McInnes West Coast 0
29 Priority Fremantle Alex Forster Fremantle 1
30 Compensation Brisbane Elliot Yeo Brisbane 27
2 31 Essendon Jackson Merrett Essendon 14
2 32 Geelong Joel Hamling Geelong 0
2012 Draft
2 27 GWS James Stewart GWS 1
2 28 Hawthorn Tim O'Brien Hawthorn 0
2 29 Port Adelaide Tom Clurey Port Adelaide 0
2 30 Port Adelaide Mason Shaw Port Adelaide 0
2 31 Richmond Kamdyn Mcintosh Richmond 0
2 32 Brisbane Michael Close Brisbane 0
Not really a who's who.
I just went a couple of picks either side of pick 30, which is actually about what we traded (pick 28 will drop a bit after the free agent picks)
just a tad early dont you think especially among the tall players mentioned there.
i really have to ask if we cant build our list with second rounders how the hell will we ever build what we need.
the second round is a place where very good players are regularly taken and yet we want to forgo not only a chance to take a good player here but want to forgo giviibg ou=rselves the best chance we have of gaining a very good player.
seems we only need to use 1st rounders to build our next premiership on. omly trouble with that it ewill take 20 yrs to bet where we need to get and we will forever chase our tails.
have we as a supporter group not learnt a thing from our horrid recent past.
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Is it not possible McIntosh Elton bachelor Griffiths astbury hampson
At least a couple are part of success ?
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oh while im at it if as it seems most agree and the club as well a genuine ruck option was needed and we just had to take hampson. why did we not offer jolly one yr and then target hampson when he comes out of contract next yr.we didnt have to pay overs we just had to manage the situation better.
we could have got jolly and used pick 28 on a very good promising young ruckman like cameron and actually addrssed the need for the long term.
i will say again you dont trade 2nd rounders on unproven 7 yr players who quite frankly have struggled fore those entire 7 yrs. who also have shown serious flaws in their game. its like saying yep its okay to give up p[ick 28 for kent kingsley.
how anyone can say hampson is not a risk based on all of the information we have on hampson is beyond me. we did have a far better chance of picking up a good to very good player than hoping hampson becomes one.
its really funny the yrs we keep our picks those picks are gold. the yr we trade out of them they arent worth two bob.
any good recruiter worth his salt will pick good players with top 30 picks and do it regularly.
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I don't understand the angst.
Richmond identified a list weakness and addresse it.
did we???. i thought that was the crux of the debate. useing a good pick on a player with such a poor record over the last 7 yrs.its a legit ask, have we addressed anything with hampson???
based on his 7 yrs its a bigger risk for us who arent pleased than useing pick 28 in the nd.
for those who are pleased they obviously think hamson is worth pick 28 and that pick 28 is worthless.
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for those who defend this trade i have to ask.
tell me why its such a good trade based on performance stats and skills.does hampson after 7yrs tick any of these boxes.
just to finish. how many plauyers are there on team lists. lets say roughly 800. every yr we get an influx of how many new faces? 100 players say!! it would be close give or take 10 or so.
so 70 80 odd of the new faces every yr comes thru the nd and we are turning our noses up at top 30 picks because they are apparently no good. unbelievable.
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Claw
Who would you prefer in the ruck and why?
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Answer seems to be longer, cause he is inferior currently and gets many less kicks, and would cost more
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for those who defend this trade i have to ask.
tell me why its such a good trade based on performance stats and skills.does hampson after 7yrs tick any of these boxes.
just to finish. how many plauyers are there on team lists. lets say roughly 800. every yr we get an influx of how many new faces? 100 players say!! it would be close give or take 10 or so.
so 70 80 odd of the new faces every yr comes thru the nd and we are turning our noses up at top 30 picks because they are apparently no good. unbelievable.
This trade is certainly a gamble Claw, but the Maric turnaround has given some cred to our recruitment and coaching staff when it comes to gambling on out of favour ruckman, so I'm sitting
on the wait and see side of things until he's played a few games. The Club had a need and fulfilled it. We needed a mature bodied ruckman to backup Maric and we got it. There are no ready to go ruckman in the draft and if there were, like NicNat and Kreuzer, they would go well before our first round pick.
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for those who defend this trade i have to ask.
tell me why its such a good trade based on performance stats and skills.does hampson after 7yrs tick any of these boxes.
just to finish. how many plauyers are there on team lists. lets say roughly 800. every yr we get an influx of how many new faces? 100 players say!! it would be close give or take 10 or so.
so 70 80 odd of the new faces every yr comes thru the nd and we are turning our noses up at top 30 picks because they are apparently no good. unbelievable.
Ok I'll have a nibble.
Firt of all I have not so much defended the trade, but argued that pick 30 odd is generally overvalued, so i dont belive that we have risked as much as some do.
I've put forward why i feel that way and if anyone can put forward a better method to quantify the value of the pick that does not rely on a subjective valuation of players, I'm all ears.
On Hampson, I haven't seen a lot of him to have formed a solid opinion either way, but from what I have, i do have concerns over his kicking. I wont get excited over what i have seen against us, where he has had some good performance, as it seems that half his highlights package is against us.
By the same token i wont read too much into "only played x games in X years " and "couldnt get a game at Cartlton" Blah blah blah. we saw similar thoughts used against Maric, and it was proven to be arse logic, (who FWIW, couldnt get a game behind Jacobs, who couldnt get a game behind Hampson). No one predicted he would come down with a groin problem like he has, which now means we have probably seen the best of him, nor will we get the length of service we would had hoped.
What i can glean about hampson;
He had a reputation for not holding marks. a couple of years ago it was discovered he had poor eye sight, which was subsequently fixed with laser surgery. Last year he was equal 6th in the league for contested marks per game.
Combine that with leading the league for % of taps to advantage and you have two qualities you want in a ruckman. He is fast for a big man, and does have a good leap.
another issue that supporters have with him has been his consistency, and intensity at times. as we have seen many ruckman don't start playing solid consistent footy until 25. As for intensity, is that just his make up, or is it a confidence thing? As it is not all the time that he lacks intensity, it it is possible that this is just a confidence thing.
He will be 26 when the season starts, so if he is going to play consistent footy to an appropriate level, we should start seeing it pretty much straight away.
One way or another we will know pretty quickly with shaun, as opposed to having to wait 5-6 years for a young ruckman.
For mine the concerns are his injury history and his kicking. On the injury front his two knee injuries were both impact injuries rather than indicating some structural weakness, but the question is have these injuries impacted his speed and leap?
Is his kicking due to the injuries? we have seen how injury has affected maric's kicking and how Jacksons kicking improved after getting over leg problems. In 2012 hampson kicked 15.4, but no other year has he come close to that conversion rate
Again, we should know soon enough.
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for those who defend this trade i have to ask.
tell me why its such a good trade based on performance stats and skills.does hampson after 7yrs tick any of these boxes.
just to finish. how many plauyers are there on team lists. lets say roughly 800. every yr we get an influx of how many new faces? 100 players say!! it would be close give or take 10 or so.
so 70 80 odd of the new faces every yr comes thru the nd and we are turning our noses up at top 30 picks because they are apparently no good. unbelievable.
This trade is certainly a gamble Claw, but the Maric turnaround has given some cred to our recruitment and coaching staff when it comes to gambling on out of favour ruckman, so I'm sitting
on the wait and see side of things until he's played a few games. The Club had a need and fulfilled it. We needed a mature bodied ruckman to backup Maric and we got it. There are no ready to go ruckman in the draft and if there were, like NicNat and Kreuzer, they would go well before our first round pick.
+1. We only had Stephenson as a back up for Maric and it didn't really quite work out. Hampson is not the long term answer but Maric can't be expected to shoulder the entire ruckload again for 2014.
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Did we trade Vickory?
Why do people not include Vickory in ruck conversations?
I'm watching Richmond and St. Kilda on Foxtel now and Vickory is doing ok in the ruck. And i think we all forget that he is still young for a ruckman.
I'm with Claw, could have easily got through 2014 with Maric, Vickory, Big O and maybe another mature rookie ruckman.
And saved our pick 28 odd and got Hampson next year for nothing if we still wanted him as we'll a pretty good junior footballer. Rated 28 best in the land is a pretty good kid.
I must rate Big O's ruck work more than others as well because I think he is the perfect back up and costs us nothing.
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weren't the hawks hovering over hampson too?
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Yeah but he was their 3rd option
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He can't be that bad as some are making out. I'm happy to wait and see.
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I'll reserve judgement until some point next year when I've seen him play for Richmond. Whilst not superstars by any means, the likes of Grigg, Houli, Maric, Chaplin, Big O etc have all been serviceable at least.
We could turn Hampson's career around and I'm crossing my fingers and hoping. Personally I won't write him off until we've given him half a chance.
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I'll reserve judgement until some point next year when I've seen him play for Richmond. Whilst not superstars by any means, the likes of Grigg, Houli, Maric, Chaplin, Big O etc have all been serviceable at least.
We could turn Hampson's career around and I'm crossing my fingers and hoping. Personally I won't write him off until we've given him half a chance.
Please don't use Grigg and serviceable in the same sentence
Cheers
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Claw
Who would you prefer in the ruck and why?
Good question, but I hope youre not holding your breath. :whistle
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Did we trade Vickory?
Why do people not include Vickory in ruck conversations?
I'm watching Richmond and St. Kilda on Foxtel now and Vickory is doing ok in the ruck. And i think we all forget that he is still young for a ruckman.
I'm with Claw, could have easily got through 2014 with Maric, Vickory, Big O and maybe another mature rookie ruckman.
And saved our pick 28 odd and got Hampson next year for nothing if we still wanted him as we'll a pretty good junior footballer. Rated 28 best in the land is a pretty good kid.
I must rate Big O's ruck work more than others as well because I think he is the perfect back up and costs us nothing.
Although I understand what you are trying to say, the problem with your suggestion is that if Maric goes down, we will be relying on a 31 yo ruck to see us through the season alone. Vickery is not a ruckman. His hits to advantage are very poor. We would be in the same situation as the second half of the elimination final where the Carlton rucks just kept on palming straight to their midfielders.
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Did we trade Vickory?
Why do people not include Vickory in ruck conversations?
I'm watching Richmond and St. Kilda on Foxtel now and Vickory is doing ok in the ruck. And i think we all forget that he is still young for a ruckman.
I'm with Claw, could have easily got through 2014 with Maric, Vickory, Big O and maybe another mature rookie ruckman.
And saved our pick 28 odd and got Hampson next year for nothing if we still wanted him as we'll a pretty good junior footballer. Rated 28 best in the land is a pretty good kid.
I must rate Big O's ruck work more than others as well because I think he is the perfect back up and costs us nothing.
Although I understand what you are trying to say, the problem with your suggestion is that if Maric goes down, we will be relying on a 31 yo ruck to see us through the season alone. Vickery is not a ruckman. His hits to advantage are very poor. We would be in the same situation as the second half of the elimination final where the Carlton rucks just kept on palming straight to their midfielders.
Agreed. Just because someone is tall, doesn't make them a ruckman. The club have realised this with VickEry and thus the recruitment of Hampson to make VickEry a permanent Forward option.
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Claw
Who would you prefer in the ruck and why?
Good question, but I hope youre not holding your breath. :whistle
why all the snide remarks. if you took the time to find out what ive said on this site ive advocated a fair few ruckmen over recent yrs.
what i dont get is why the ruck situation coulkd not be addressed with a player like jolly if need be. and we keep pick 28. why was it a must to trade out of pick 28 on such a poor performer with such poor stats and with such knocks on basic skills. all this with 7yrs of history.
give me pick 28 and if darcy cameron is there use it on him failing that use it on the best kid available.
people talk as if there was no option but to take hampson and they are wrong.
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for those who defend this trade i have to ask.
tell me why its such a good trade based on performance stats and skills.does hampson after 7yrs tick any of these boxes.
just to finish. how many plauyers are there on team lists. lets say roughly 800. every yr we get an influx of how many new faces? 100 players say!! it would be close give or take 10 or so.
so 70 80 odd of the new faces every yr comes thru the nd and we are turning our noses up at top 30 picks because they are apparently no good. unbelievable.
Ok I'll have a nibble.
Firt of all I have not so much defended the trade, but argued that pick 30 odd is generally overvalued, so i dont belive that we have risked as much as some do.
I've put forward why i feel that way and if anyone can put forward a better method to quantify the value of the pick that does not rely on a subjective valuation of players, I'm all ears.
On Hampson, I haven't seen a lot of him to have formed a solid opinion either way, but from what I have, i do have concerns over his kicking. I wont get excited over what i have seen against us, where he has had some good performance, as it seems that half his highlights package is against us.
By the same token i wont read too much into "only played x games in X years " and "couldnt get a game at Cartlton" Blah blah blah. we saw similar thoughts used against Maric, and it was proven to be arse logic, (who FWIW, couldnt get a game behind Jacobs, who couldnt get a game behind Hampson). No one predicted he would come down with a groin problem like he has, which now means we have probably seen the best of him, nor will we get the length of service we would had hoped.
What i can glean about hampson;
He had a reputation for not holding marks. a couple of years ago it was discovered he had poor eye sight, which was subsequently fixed with laser surgery. Last year he was equal 6th in the league for contested marks per game.
Combine that with leading the league for % of taps to advantage and you have two qualities you want in a ruckman. He is fast for a big man, and does have a good leap.
another issue that supporters have with him has been his consistency, and intensity at times. as we have seen many ruckman don't start playing solid consistent footy until 25. As for intensity, is that just his make up, or is it a confidence thing? As it is not all the time that he lacks intensity, it it is possible that this is just a confidence thing.
He will be 26 when the season starts, so if he is going to play consistent footy to an appropriate level, we should start seeing it pretty much straight away.
One way or another we will know pretty quickly with shaun, as opposed to having to wait 5-6 years for a young ruckman.
For mine the concerns are his injury history and his kicking. On the injury front his two knee injuries were both impact injuries rather than indicating some structural weakness, but the question is have these injuries impacted his speed and leap?
Is his kicking due to the injuries? we have seen how injury has affected maric's kicking and how Jacksons kicking improved after getting over leg problems. In 2012 hampson kicked 15.4, but no other year has he come close to that conversion rate
Again, we should know soon enough.
thats a great response im short for time atm in fact may not be back on for a week or so. but i will attempt to make a decent reply to this.
i think at the end of the day you put criteria in place as to why you should or shouldnt take a player you certainly try to place a proper value on them. we may disagree on this but i certainly respect where you are coming from.
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As has been explained - our rucks stocks are not good, more so if Vickery is seen primarily are a forward.
Hence the criteria is the requirement to reinforce the ruck division.
As much as you criticize this trade - I still haven't seen an alternative road to improvement of the ruck stocks
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FFS, he is in the team, support him or stuff off....pretty simple, close the thread its really stuffing boring.
If you don't like him in the team or the trade stiff poo, its done, its over, he is there....move on!!!!
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Great post WAT :thumbsup
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FFS, he is in the team, support him or stuff off....pretty simple, close the thread its really stuffing boring.
If you don't like him in the team or the trade stiff poo, its done, its over, he is there....move on!!!!
:clapping I agree WAT. Lets at least give the guy a chance before sticking the boot in.
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From twitter:
Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun
"Mumford for pick 35 damned good value. It's a steal for Giants. Tyson was homesick last year. Smart to trade him before he walked"
Adam White @White_Adam 44s
"@RalphyHeraldSun It's a good deal for the Giants considering Shaun Hampson went to Richmond for 28. Mumford is a premiership ruckman!"
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Awww gee
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Awww gee
Cant argue with the facts unfortunately Carlton robbed us blind on the Hampson trade. He wasnt worth pick 50 let alone 28.
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If all the experts are saying that the draft dries up after pick 30 maybe it wasn't such a horrendous deal afterall :-\
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Yeah Mumford is a much better ruckman, but Mumford on 3x times as much money though and out of contract.
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If all the experts are saying that the draft dries up after pick 30 maybe it wasn't such a horrendous deal afterall :-\
Its exactly why we should never have traded 28 out. This is a shallow draft. Clubs have to take 3 picks. Our trading out 28 means we have almost guaranteed ourselves that we will have to draft two dead set duds. If we had 28 we could have had 2 picks out of the 3 inside the 30 and that meant only 1 player outside of 30. Hampson was never worth what we paid.
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beside the likelihood of that pick ending up outside of pick 30, in two years time no one will give a stuff what we gave for him.
The only thing that will matter will be if we should have got him at all.
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Yeah Mumford is a much better ruckman, but Mumford on 3x times as much money though and out of contract.
He is on 3x more money because he is 3x better than Hampson. Like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Pick 35 for Mumford, pick 28 for Hampson! stuff!!!
I still cannot believe we are almost at our limit in our salary cap.
We are pathetic
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Get a grip ::)
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Get a grip ::)
Unless the club gets itself into the top 10 next week this trade and draft effort could end up a complete balls up. I can sense another draft where we get no good players out of an offseason trade and trade effort. Hampson+Pick 12 or whatever it is at the moment. Its a complete stuff up!
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lmao
we gave up a pick more likely to be a miss than not, and even less chance of playing round 1, for a bloke who will probably play rnd 1 and give our broken down ruckman some respite.
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If all the experts are saying that the draft dries up after pick 30 maybe it wasn't such a horrendous deal afterall :-\
Its exactly why we should never have traded 28 out. This is a shallow draft. Clubs have to take 3 picks. Our trading out 28 means we have almost guaranteed ourselves that we will have to draft two dead set duds. If we had 28 we could have had 2 picks out of the 3 inside the 30 and that meant only 1 player outside of 30. Hampson was never worth what we paid.
Clubs don't have to draft 3 new players in the draft anymore. They can use a promoted rookie as their selection instead if they so wish.
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If all the experts are saying that the draft dries up after pick 30 maybe it wasn't such a horrendous deal afterall :-\
Its exactly why we should never have traded 28 out. This is a shallow draft. Clubs have to take 3 picks. Our trading out 28 means we have almost guaranteed ourselves that we will have to draft two dead set duds. If we had 28 we could have had 2 picks out of the 3 inside the 30 and that meant only 1 player outside of 30. Hampson was never worth what we paid.
Clubs don't have to draft 3 new players in the draft anymore. They can use a promoted rookie as their selection instead if they so wish.
does it really matter? how good are our rookies? I dont rate any of them! Not 1! If the club only has Hampster and Pick 12or13 or whatever it is at the end of it its a complete stuff up because the likelihood is we will get ZERO players from this offseason IMHO.
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Young gun, Petterd and a reach for a hidden gem or project player. Are the club looking at the bigger bigger picture maybe and keeping their 2014 powder well and truly hidden and dry? Some of this years big players will have far less room to move in next year's draft.
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So actually we traded pick 32 for Hampson, would that be correct??
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yeah, we allll know it :lol
we have more chance of getting a player in Hampson than pick 32, and we will know a lot sooner too.
with our steady improvement in the last few years you must look forward to this time of year where you get a chance to rub your twit along barbed wire and squeal little a spoiled biatch that broke her pocket rocket
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yeah, we allll know it :lol
we have more chance of getting a player in Hampson than pick 32, and we will know a lot sooner too.
with our steady improvement in the last few years you must look forward to this time of year where you get a chance to rub your twit along barbed wire and squeal little a spoiled biatch that broke her pocket rocket
you seem abit upset Alberts? Whats wrong big fella? :lol
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yeah, we allll know it :lol
we have more chance of getting a player in Hampson than pick 32, and we will know a lot sooner too.
with our steady improvement in the last few years you must look forward to this time of year where you get a chance to rub your twit along barbed wire and squeal little a spoiled biatch that broke her pocket rocket
:lol :thumbsup
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
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Get a grip ::)
Unless the club gets itself into the top 10 next week this trade and draft effort could end up a complete balls up. I can sense another draft where we get no good players out of an offseason trade and trade effort. Hampson+Pick 12 or whatever it is at the moment. Its a complete stuff up!
Yep.
Any fool can see they've stuffed this up.
Morons.
We were never going to make it past week one of the finals.
We miss that leadership and cultural influence.
Leadership -LMAO.
Cotchin aint a captain, fwiw.
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Awww gee
Cant argue with the facts unfortunately Carlton robbed us blind on the Hampson trade. He wasnt worth pick 50 let alone 28.
100% agree, its worse that it's Carlton too.
The industry always compares picks and draftee's, RFC would hope picks 30-40 are all duds or the 'what ifs' will come calling. Should have offered pick 60 for Hampson and should have traded 28 for a better player.
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
doesnt look like it... have to say went fishing trying to get HRT and Blaisee into the conversation so I am surprised you decided to join in :lol
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sure.
:lol
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
doesnt look like it... have to say went fishing trying to get HRT and Blaisee into the conversation so I am surprised you decided to join in :lol
If you want to get me involved, throw in a couple of spelling mistakes and post what you think.
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
doesnt look like it... have to say went fishing trying to get HRT and Blaisee into the conversation so I am surprised you decided to join in :lol
If you want to get me involved, throw in a couple of spelling mistakes and post what you think.
ok hear we go, it wood bea goode if yuo culd git yerself intwo the convrsatition ok. ;D
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So actually we traded pick 32 for Hampson, would that be correct??
yes thats right mate. Its not the fact we traded for him, more so the quick manner and pick we used on him.
Pies are struggling to broker a deal with GWS so it couldve been handy in a deal to lure Adams.
Now we have nothing inside 50 because the club thought in their wildest wisdom that they would get some 2/third rounder for White, Mcguane. They look like fools now because we got SFA, as i anticipated.
Blues will gain Docherty with our pick, who has shown real promise in the mid and will be a regular while we could've picked up Jolly for nothing to aid Maric, whilst the bean develops.
We are one injury in cotch away from falling down the ladder. Lids is not a leader and Dusty cant do it on his own.
We need more class in the mid and forward line.
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So actually we traded pick 32 for Hampson, would that be correct??
yes thats right mate. Its not the fact we traded for him, more so the quick manner and pick we used on him.
Pies are struggling to broker a deal with GWS so it couldve been handy in a deal to lure Adams.
Now we have nothing inside 50 because the club thought in their wildest wisdom that they would get some 2/third rounder for White, Mcguane. They look like fools now because we got SFA, as i anticipated.
Blues will gain Docherty with our pick, who has shown real promise in the mid and will be a regular while we could've picked up Jolly for nothing to aid Maric, whilst the bean develops.
We are one injury in cotch away from falling down the ladder. Lids is not a leader and Dusty cant do it on his own.
We need more class in the mid and forward line.
Spot on mate!
Like anyone else would have taken him and Carlton probably would have taken our third round pick for him!
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yeah, we allll know it :lol
we have more chance of getting a player in Hampson than pick 32, and we will know a lot sooner too.
with our steady improvement in the last few years you must look forward to this time of year where you get a chance to rub your twit along barbed wire and squeal little a spoiled biatch that broke her pocket rocket
Hampster has served up 8 years of dog vomit. How is he more of a player than someone the great FJ judges to be the 32nd best young kid in Australia?
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So actually we traded pick 32 for Hampson, would that be correct??
yes thats right mate. Its not the fact we traded for him, more so the quick manner and pick we used on him.
Pies are struggling to broker a deal with GWS so it couldve been handy in a deal to lure Adams.
Now we have nothing inside 50 because the club thought in their wildest wisdom that they would get some 2/third rounder for White, Mcguane. They look like fools now because we got SFA, as i anticipated.
Blues will gain Docherty with our pick, who has shown real promise in the mid and will be a regular while we could've picked up Jolly for nothing to aid Maric, whilst the bean develops.
We are one injury in cotch away from falling down the ladder. Lids is not a leader and Dusty cant do it on his own.
We need more class in the mid and forward line.
Can't argue with any of that
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Get a grip ::)
Unless the club gets itself into the top 10 next week this trade and draft effort could end up a complete balls up. I can sense another draft where we get no good players out of an offseason trade and trade effort. Hampson+Pick 12 or whatever it is at the moment. Its a complete stuff up!
I remember when our rebuild was a failure too
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Get a grip ::)
Unless the club gets itself into the top 10 next week this trade and draft effort could end up a complete balls up. I can sense another draft where we get no good players out of an offseason trade and trade effort. Hampson+Pick 12 or whatever it is at the moment. Its a complete stuff up!
I remember when our rebuild was a failure too
atleast 6 times after 1982
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
doesnt look like it... have to say went fishing trying to get HRT and Blaisee into the conversation so I am surprised you decided to join in :lol
If you want to get me involved, throw in a couple of spelling mistakes and post what you think.
ok hear we go, it wood bea goode if yuo culd git yerself intwo the convrsatition ok. ;D
Most sense you've made in a long time Ramps! ;D
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not upset in the least, unlike your good self :cheers
doesnt look like it... have to say went fishing trying to get HRT and Blaisee into the conversation so I am surprised you decided to join in :lol
If you want to get me involved, throw in a couple of spelling mistakes and post what you think.
ok hear we go, it wood bea goode if yuo culd git yerself intwo the convrsatition ok. ;D
Most sense you've made in a long time Ramps! ;D
thanx smoke ;D
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Thanks :banghead
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A Carlton supporter has put together a youtube clip of the Shaun Hampson years 2007-2013...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UqUSx4mi8
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Comments on that YouTube clip are more pro Hammer than I thought they would be.
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I think I read somewhere, may well have been on this forum, that Hampson only started playing AFL in 2004. If thats the case and the fact that ruckmen generally develop at a slower rate than other positioned players that maybe, just maybe Hartley has realised that his best footy is still ahead of him. Might turn out to be quite an astute pick, a rough diamond I think they call it.
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I think I read somewhere, may well have been on this forum, that Hampson only started playing AFL in 2004. If thats the case and the fact that ruckmen generally develop at a slower rate than other positioned players that maybe, just maybe Hartley has realised that his best footy is still ahead of him. Might turn out to be quite an astute pick, a rough diamond I think they call it.
Yes that's right and here's hoping he starts to play it well soon
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Has this bloke been down to the club yet or is he too busy
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Has this bloke been down to the club yet or is he too busy
It's the off season and he has Megan Gale as his girlfriend.
Please put two plus two together!
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Has this bloke been down to the club yet or is he too busy
It's the off season and he has Megan Gale as his girlfriend.
Please put two plus two together!
:clapping
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Has this bloke been down to the club yet or is he too busy
It's the off season and he has Megan Gale as his girlfriend.
Please put two plus two together!
:lol :clapping
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FWIW the Herald-Sun rated the Hampson trade the 14th best (out of the 35) based on value to the Club.
14. SHAUN HAMPSON (Richmond)
Hampson was stuck behind Matthew Kreuzer at Carlton. He is likely to support Ivan Maric at Punt Road, but that will allow Ty Vickery to play more permanently in attack. And that is where the Tigers may really win.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/lance-franklin-tops-our-afl-trade-rankings-for-2013/story-fnfll94y-1226747427888
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There is going to be some seriously embarrassed posters when big bad Ty starts racking up the Coleman's
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Would u say the same if maric does his knee five min into the season ?
How do you propose repairing the non benchmark ruck brigade?
Have no issue with recruiting another ruckman for depth as Derickx clearly isn't good enough, just not Hampson and certainly not for Pick 28.
Can't be giving away 2nd round picks in fear of players doing season ending injuries 5 mins into round 1.
If we pick up Hampson we may as well have kept Angus Graham.
Yuck. Trading Graham was the right decision.
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VIDEO: Happy Hampson at Tigerland ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-10-30/happy-hampson-at-tigerland
Hampson has high hopes
richmondfc.com.au
October 30, 2013
“It’s my first time at the Club, meeting with all the coaches, and I really like what they have to say. I genuinely feel like they can get the best out of me,” Hampson told ‘Roar Vision’.
“Opportunity’s obviously another big reason why I came, and I feel like I can get that here.
“Obviously, big Ivan is a good ruckman, so I think I can give him a chop-out when he needs it, and pinch-hit forward if they need me to as well . . . I’ll do what the Club needs me to do.
“If they want to start big ‘Ivvy’ forward, then I’ll start in the ruck, and vice-versa. It depends, I guess, who the opponent is and how the match-ups work.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-30/hampson-has-high-hopes
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Does big Hammer get the now vacant 16? :clapping
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Nope!
No.22 like he wore at Carlton.
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AUDIO: Hampson on SEN with KB:
http://soundcloud.com/sen1116
* Three or four weeks ago, I went in and had a meeting with them and had a look around the Club. Big Ivan came in on his holidays to show me around. He’s a really nice guy and he asked me what I saw my role as - just another ruckman to free up Vickery and help big Ivan, who’s had a couple of great seasons, out.
* I’ve always treated Ivan with a lot of respect. He’s tough, he’s strong, he can spread forward on you, he’s good. I learned a lot from him and hopefully we can teach each other a few things. We’ve got big Brendon Lade there as well, who’s looking forward to working with us both too.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-01/maric-in-hampson-hunt
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Shaun Hampson is officially becoming a dad as well as a Tiger.
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Supermodel Megan Gale is expecting her first child with boyfriend Shaun Hampson.
"I'm so excited and thrilled to announce that my boyfriend Shaun and I are expecting our first child together and I'm 13 weeks pregnant," Gale wrote.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/megan-gale-announces-pregnancy/story-e6frfmqi-1226757528869
:)
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apparently it's James Hird's
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apparently it's James Hird's
:lol
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Cue the Centaur jokes...
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:lol
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Megan Gale is now pregnant.
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Cue the Centaur jokes...
Neigh, they're inappropriate
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apparently it's James Hird's
If it comes out tanned and tumescent, it it probably is!
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Megan Gale is now pregnant.
I cant get over the 13 year age gap between these two and how long it'll last. Still, I wish them all the best especially with a kid on the way.
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Megan Gale is now pregnant.
I cant get over the 13 year age gap between these two and how long it'll last. Still, I wish them all the best especially with a kid on the way.
yeah especially if its a boy and the hampster can get to 100 games :clapping
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Has this bloke been down to the club yet or is he too busy
It's the off season and he has Megan Gale as his girlfriend.
Please put two plus two together!
This was already gold at the time. But in hindsight it's even better. :clapping :clapping
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Cue the Centaur jokes...
Neigh, they're inappropriate
Mane reason being?
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Shaun will wear no 16 in 2014
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Hampson > mcgaune
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Shaun will wear no 16 in 2014
big shoes to fill!
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They gave him bryan woods number?
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Shaun will be good for the RFC
Doesn't start training till next Monday but is looking good
Very fit
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-20/jack-backs-new-tiger-tall
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-20/jack-backs-new-tiger-tall
I'm really looking forward to an interview
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-20/jack-backs-new-tiger-tall
I'm really looking forward to an interview
He did one. Did you blink?
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-20/jack-backs-new-tiger-tall
I'm really looking forward to an interview
He did one. Did you blink?
Link
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-20/jack-backs-new-tiger-tall
I'm really looking forward to an interview
He did one. Did you blink?
Link
On the RFC website. I can't be stuffed looking it up to be honest. :shh
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it was linked on here, probably only a page or two back in this thread. ::)
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Looks a million dollars
Knee good
He will make a huge difference providing he stays injury free
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Looks a million dollars
Knee good
He will make a huge difference providing he stays injury free
:thumbsup
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Looks a million dollars
Knee good
He will make a huge difference providing he stays injury free
Sage advice, it actually applies to everyone on our list.
Particularly Knights! ;)
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Been working out in the local gym
Looks in great condition
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From the interviews and stuff seems like a really top bloke.
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Can't beat a good interviewee
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Jack Riewoldt backs new Tiger tall
richmondfc.com.au
November 20, 2013
“Shaun’s going to be really important for us going forward,” Riewoldt said.
“He’s that bigger sort of ruckman who’s played well against us.
............so did John Pitura
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Looks a million dollars
Knee good
He will make a huge difference providing he stays injury free
:clapping
It's like a different Jackstar, making the finals has done wonders for your disposition
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Well if Hack Riewoldt has given his blessing then I'm on the bandwagon too just quietly
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Hampson is no better than maric. So why recruit him? Here we go again ::)
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You sipping on some cough medicine tonight ay clawski ?
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You sipping on some cough medicine tonight ay clawski ?
think the missus put something in me hot chocolate. :pray :pray
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You sipping on some cough medicine tonight ay clawski ?
think the missus put something in me hot chocolate. :pray :pray
:bow
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Mrakov tea bagged it.
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You sipping on some cough medicine tonight ay clawski ?
think the missus put something in me hot chocolate. :pray :pray
:clapping :clapping
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:lol :cheers
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Mrakov tea bagged it.
The one time the herpes would come in handy
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Could've had Garlett at 30. :(
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Could've had herpes at 30, speaking of which. Could've had a nasty nazi squat rott
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sheesh if jacks talking em up im haappy to say
DUD DELIST ASAP :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Sneaky suspicion he is ready to fire
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
What was your proposition to reinforce the ruck stocks?
Were you happy with the future on only maric / orren?
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
What was your proposition to reinforce the ruck stocks?
Were you happy with the future on only maric / orren?
Plenty of ways to bolster your ruck stocks without throwing away pick 32 on an injury prone dud.
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And yet you have failed to put any on the table
Resign deickx long term?
If he doesn't improve hampson is still a satisfactory AFL standard ruckman
Personally I'd rather as many talented 18 year old as possible, this year and every draft. Continually list improvement via youth is no doubt ideal
Yet the ruck situation was a gaping hole that needed be addressed
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
That's assuming that fine eyes would have chosen any of the afore mentioned
flawed logic
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And yet you have failed to put any on the table
Resign deickx long term?
Re-signing a dud for peanuts is better than trading a second round draft pick for one. He's effectively just a minor upgrade on Derrickx - we could've found that in the State Leagues.
This is all because we've basically written off Vickery as a ruckman, which is mistake IMO.
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
That's assuming that fine eyes would have chosen any of the afore mentioned
flawed logic
Fair point - assume nothing with FJ regarding picks after round one - least of all logic.
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Hardwick happy with Hampson
richmondfc.com.au
December 11, 2013
“We felt with Ivan we were probably putting him in a situation where we were running him into the ground,” Hardwick said.
“We’re really looking forward to that combination grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck and to have ruck dominance throughout the whole period of a game.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-11/hardwick-happy-with-hampson
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And yet you have failed to put any on the table
Resign deickx long term?
Re-signing a dud for peanuts is better than trading a second round draft pick for one. He's effectively just a minor upgrade on Derrickx - we could've found that in the State Leagues.
This is all because we've basically written off Vickery as a ruckman, which is mistake IMO.
The flaw with your theory is as follows:
the club isn't seemingly giving Derickx and extended run in the senior side for 2014 as the second ruckman. Due to one can only assume lack of ability to play football to a high (enough) standard
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Hampson had 6 possies (1k, 5h, 2 cp, 4up), 14 hitouts, 1 centre clearance and 1 rebound 50. What did we all think of his first game (well half-a-game) in Yellow & Black?
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Mum always told me if you can't say anything nice :shh
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Was ok, just. Ahead of Orren.
Hard to gauge against poot opposition. _Kinda did the absolute bare minimum.
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Did the job, can't read into it too much.
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rubbish last night
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Was he there last night?
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The big zero was there but I'm not sure he's "all there" if you know what I mean
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Was decent. Will be better back up than orren.
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So glad we missed a chance at grabbing Gartlett for this usesless great lump.
Even Melbourne's 18 y.o. rookie pick from Wagga, Max King looked better.
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Was decent. Will be better back up than orren.
He'll be better than Ivan
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I thought his ruck work was very good. Needs to get more of the footy though. I think he will be ok.
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So glad we missed a chance at grabbing Gartlett for this usesless great lump.
Even Melbourne's 18 y.o. rookie pick from Wagga, Max King looked better.
Here here
Every good team has great little men except us
He would've been a perfect recruit with not much to give up
Instead. Enter Angus Graham
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
What was your proposition to reinforce the ruck stocks?
Were you happy with the future on only maric / orren?
if orren is only marginally worse than hampson i dont see the need to get hampson.
i came up with a scenario this yr and everyone poo pooed it.
what i dont get in all of this is we failed to rookie at the very least a junior ruckman. as you say with only ivan and orren and with hampson a risk of sorts wheres the long term planning.
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Might be worse as the rumour going around is that Ivan has done his navicular….
If that is true, that's it for him.
I pray that this isn't true………..
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Might be worse as the rumour going around is that Ivan has done his navicular….
If that is true, that's it for him.
I pray that this isn't true………..
It for him? Navicular shouldn't be ending a career
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
What was your proposition to reinforce the ruck stocks?
Why Griffiths of course!
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Players this hack cost us a chance at tonight:
Dayle Gartlett
George Hewett
Cameron Giles
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Riley Knight
Yep.....so glad we got Angus Graham Mk.II instead of any of them....
What was your proposition to reinforce the ruck stocks?
Why Griffiths of course!
Funny comparing Hampson's game to Kennedy-Harris' the other night. One game and I'll back Hampson more than Kennedy-Harris but still funny
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With Big Ivan looking like he's going to have to go under the knife, it means Hampson will need to take over the No.1 ruck role at least for the beginning of the season. We are going to need more efforts like today where Hampson was the dominant ruckman on the ground with 26 hitouts giving our mids first use of the footy along with 3 centre clearances of his own.
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With Big Ivan looking like he's going to have to go under the knife, it means Hampson will need to take over the No.1 ruck role at least for the beginning of the season. We are going to need more efforts like today where Hampson was the dominant ruckman on the ground with 26 hitouts giving our mids first use of the footy along with 3 centre clearances of his own.
Hampson has suddenly become very important and will be our number one ruckman for at least the first part of the year. Just as important though will be Griffiths. He needs to take this opportunity with both hands and compete particularly well in the ruck. Will the Big O get elevated and step into Griffiths role if he underperforms? Maric's absence certainly leaves a hole.
I have faith Hampson will actually work well as a ruck and will probably relish the responsibility.
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Thought Hampson was impressive yesterday
Really liked his game and his round the ground play
Would like him to take a few more marks though but with Maric likely to missing come round 1 of the season proper he showed enough yesterday to say we wont as badly off as we would have been in previous years if we lost Ivan
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Thought Hampson was impressive yesterday
Really liked his game and his round the ground play
Would like him to take a few more marks though but with Maric likely to missing come round 1 of the season proper he showed enough yesterday to say we wont as badly off as we would have been in previous years if we lost Ivan
Disagree - still looks utterly useless around the ground to me.
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I was pleasantly surprised with his field kicking.
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It's time to get behind the big Hammer.
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We're getting fussy remember when we had Gus and Browne as our rucks. :lol
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We're getting fussy remember when we had Gus and Browne as our rucks. :lol
The best damn days of my life
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Browne > Hampsud
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No Ivan - No Wins.
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We're getting fussy remember when we had Gus and Browne as our rucks. :lol
The best damn days of my life
And don't we hear about it every stuffing day, that and Schultz..every day..get over it, and you were WRONG about Graham.... :lol :lol
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We're getting fussy remember when we had Gus and Browne as our rucks. :lol
:lol
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Thought the Hampson & Griffiths combination worked extremely well. Both are tall athletic ruckmen who have a great leap. I was really impressed by the height Hampson gets with his tap work. If he gets a jump at the ball he will be extremely hard to beat. That series of play where he won the center tap, crumbed his own ball and then broke away from the pack was very impressive. His kick was actually good to but the leading forward decided to double back so all his good work ended up in the oppositions hands but it was very NickNat like in any event.
He needs to stick his marks but overall he will be a great addition based on what I have seen in the preseason. Griffiths will offer more around the ground and up forward but the two of them could form a very mobile and dangerous combination. I'm interested in seeing how they match up against a stronger bodied/crash and bash ruck like Minson in R3 and Hudson in R4.
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Thought the Hampson & Griffiths combination worked extremely well. Both are tall athletic ruckmen who have a great leap. I was really impressed by the height Hampson gets with his tap work. If he gets a jump at the ball he will be extremely hard to beat. That series of play where he won the center tap, crumbed his own ball and then broke away from the pack was very impressive. His kick was actually good to but the leading forward decided to double back so all his good work ended up in the oppositions hands but it was very NickNat like in any event.
He needs to stick his marks but overall he will be a great addition based on what I have seen in the preseason. Griffiths will offer more around the ground and up forward but the two of them could form a very mobile and dangerous combination. I'm interested in seeing how they match up against a stronger bodied/crash and bash ruck like Minson in R3 and Hudson in R4.
:clapping
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We're getting fussy remember when we had Gus and Browne as our rucks. :lol
The best damn days of my life
And don't we hear about it every stuffing day, that and Schultz..every day..get over it, and you were WRONG about Graham.... :lol :lol
Every day? How was I wrong? I called it in 09. Graham was never a good player no matter how much of a legendary bloke he is. The Beefcake thing was the best year long pee take I have produced.
Just a few posts here before the All In days. Do some research if you want, I always thought Goose was a dud. Lovely bloke though
Graham has a pea heart and is one of the most disgraceful players to have ever worn the yellow & black.
LMFAOOO
Graham is rubbish. Didnt see most of you blokes complaining last w/e. Graham would have been destroyed by Brogan tonight as well.
:lol
We should 'Capuano' Graham. We can't have him holding back the development of our other ruckman in the reserves.
:laugh:
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Snip! Back to discussing the topic ppl.
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It's time to get behind the big Hammer.
go right ahead. when he shows he can compete against the jacobs minsons coxs etc instead of 19 yr old boys the rest of us just might get behind him too.
iccredible. we have a 7yr history to judge him by and yet some want to do it on the back of insignificant practise games.
in fairness to him he looked decent and did okay against colliwobblers but perspective please.
he needs to prove himself and he needs to do it in a big way.
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Thought the Hampson & Griffiths combination worked extremely well. Both are tall athletic ruckmen who have a great leap. I was really impressed by the height Hampson gets with his tap work. If he gets a jump at the ball he will be extremely hard to beat. That series of play where he won the center tap, crumbed his own ball and then broke away from the pack was very impressive. His kick was actually good to but the leading forward decided to double back so all his good work ended up in the oppositions hands but it was very NickNat like in any event.
He needs to stick his marks but overall he will be a great addition based on what I have seen in the preseason. Griffiths will offer more around the ground and up forward but the two of them could form a very mobile and dangerous combination. I'm interested in seeing how they match up against a stronger bodied/crash and bash ruck like Minson in R3 and Hudson in R4.
:clapping
They both need to stand up now. Schwartz reckons we are going to struggle without Ivvy, what the hell is he on!
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It's time to get behind the big Hammer.
go right ahead. when he shows he can compete against the jacobs minsons coxs etc instead of 19 yr old boys the rest of us just might get behind him too.
iccredible. we have a 7yr history to judge him by and yet some want to do it on the back of insignificant practise games.
in fairness to him he looked decent and did okay against colliwobblers but perspective please.
he needs to prove himself and he needs to do it in a big way.
Don't think anyone expects him to be a world beater....just compete and neutralise .
Odds are Maric will be ineffective in 2014 so a lot rests on the shoulders of Hampson.
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Makes his trade look inspired now.....
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Watching the game now and I am very impressed with Hampson, does the job very nicely. Great pick up for mine!
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Watching the game now and I am very impressed with Hampson, does the job very nicely. Great pick up for mine!
Better ruck than Ivvy but no where near as influential outside of that though. Hopefully with consistent minutes as a no.1 ruck he will get better around the ground and it will be an inspired choice.
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It's time to get behind the big Hammer.
go right ahead. when he shows he can compete against the jacobs minsons coxs etc instead of 19 yr old boys the rest of us just might get behind him too.
iccredible. we have a 7yr history to judge him by and yet some want to do it on the back of insignificant practise games.
in fairness to him he looked decent and did okay against colliwobblers but perspective please.
he needs to prove himself and he needs to do it in a big way.
Don't think anyone expects him to be a world beater....just compete and neutralise .
Odds are Maric will be ineffective in 2014 so a lot rests on the shoulders of Hampson.
the big o showed he can do that.why waste a 2nd rounder if thats all we expect.
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
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of course they would have, in fact they asked for it but we nah, here have a second......
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Watching the game now and I am very impressed with Hampson, does the job very nicely. Great pick up for mine!
Better ruck than Ivvy but no where near as influential outside of that though. Hopefully with consistent minutes as a no.1 ruck he will get better around the ground and it will be an inspired choice.
Agree, with more game time he will be an asset!
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If he is going to be the number one ruck needs to kick between 22 - 44 goals
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Watching the game now and I am very impressed with Hampson, does the job very nicely. Great pick up for mine!
Better ruck than Ivvy but no where near as influential outside of that though. Hopefully with consistent minutes as a no.1 ruck he will get better around the ground and it will be an inspired choice.
Agree, with more game time he will be an asset!
He'd want to get better in open play because right now he's a liability of JONesque proportions in that regard.
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If he is going to be the number one ruck needs to kick between 22 - 44 goals
I was thinking more like 26-48 goals Chucky! :thumbsup
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If he is going to be the number one ruck needs to kick between 22 - 44 goals
Exactly. The press have already mentioned this
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I am warning you aw if you bring up longer the slonger lover I will spew
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does ivan kick 26 to 40 whatever goals a season. if hes to REPLACE ivan his main job is to perform at or very close to ivans level in the ruck.
if hes to be a ruck/ for then hes expected to hit the scoreboard.
on vickery i have to ask again. at what stage do you expect a ruckman to step up and at the least start to show he can take over if need be.
well vickery is close enough to 24 entering yr 6. he played 89games? and going by the way we gift him games he will pb well over 100 this yr. hes close to physically the right size yet we go and get hampson. we hang onto 32 yr old ruckmen in stephenson and we desperately try to turn griffiths into a ruckman. if vickery was a ruckman we would not need to do any of this.
if you wish to compare vickery to players at the same age which is peoples wont on this board. then as a ruckman hes one of the worst performed of all time.
as a kpf hes marginal as well. yet we offer him a 3 yr deal what madness.
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Just let it go claw , you've said your piece about 25 times the past few days.
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no it doesn't work like that tony.
the more you say it, the truer it becomes.
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
if o is too old and not much good why did we keep him with the shortage of first rucks on the list.why keep a spud at any time.
to me purely as a ruckman and in just 14 games at age 32 or what ever orren has statistically been much better than hampson as a pure ruckman. its funny you cant find one poster on this site who will talk about hampsons 7 pathetic seasons to date and just how much of a risk he is.
cmon can anyone at all show me where hes had just one very ave yr yet alone decent in the 7 yrs hes played.
how much room for improvement is there in most 26yo olds.
ive gotta ask am i the only one who insists hampson after 7yrs of nothing prove himself before i call him a good pick up. forget about where hampson was originally taken focus on 7 yrs of performance. with what vickery has dished up thus far do you see me focusing on where he was taken which by the way was pick 8 should he better because he was taken there.
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
if o is too old and not much good why did we keep him with the shortage of first rucks on the list.why keep a spud at any time.
to me purely as a ruckman and in just 14 games at age 32 or what ever orren has statistically been much better than hampson as a pure ruckman. its funny you cant find one poster on this site who will talk about hampsons 7 pathetic seasons to date and just how much of a risk he is.
cmon can anyone at all show me where hes had just one very ave yr yet alone decent in the 7 yrs hes played.
how much room for improvement is there in most 26yo olds.
ive gotta ask am i the only one who insists hampson after 7yrs of nothing prove himself before i call him a good pick up. forget about where hampson was originally taken focus on 7 yrs of performance. with what vickery has dished up thus far do you see me focusing on where he was taken which by the way was pick 8 should he better because he was taken there.
The season Kruezer was out with a knee, hampson took the number 1 ruck mantle for 12-15 weeks and played the best footy of his life cant recall if it was 2011 or 2012, ask any carlton fan. Its snippets like this that clubs store in their memory bank when looking to bring someone into the club like we have. Obviously we thought he's shown a bit and have taken a calculated risk. Just bc you think hes a complete and utter spud with zero chance of improving, doesn't necessarily make it so. There is no shame in being the number 3 choice behind kreuzer and Warnock. Sam Jacobs was behind them in the pecking order too, and he hasn't been too bad.
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
if o is too old and not much good why did we keep him with the shortage of first rucks on the list.why keep a spud at any time.
to me purely as a ruckman and in just 14 games at age 32 or what ever orren has statistically been much better than hampson as a pure ruckman. its funny you cant find one poster on this site who will talk about hampsons 7 pathetic seasons to date and just how much of a risk he is.
cmon can anyone at all show me where hes had just one very ave yr yet alone decent in the 7 yrs hes played.
how much room for improvement is there in most 26yo olds.
ive gotta ask am i the only one who insists hampson after 7yrs of nothing prove himself before i call him a good pick up. forget about where hampson was originally taken focus on 7 yrs of performance. with what vickery has dished up thus far do you see me focusing on where he was taken which by the way was pick 8 should he better because he was taken there.
The season Kruezer was out with a knee, hampson took the number 1 ruck mantle for 12-15 weeks and played the best footy of his life cant recall if it was 2011 or 2012, ask any carlton fan. Its snippets like this that clubs store in their memory bank when looking to bring someone into the club like we have. Obviously we thought he's shown a bit and have taken a calculated risk. Just bc you think hes a complete and utter spud with zero chance of improving, doesn't necessarily make it so. There is no shame in being the number 3 choice behind kreuzer and Warnock. Sam Jacobs was behind them in the pecking order too, and he hasn't been too bad.
thats a good spin on it.
kruezer did his knee rnd 13 2010. both warnock and jacobs took over the mantle in that yr. jacobs in just yr 2. jacobs went home to adelaide at the end of that yr having already shot past hampson and warnock.
warnock had his best season in 2011 taking over the ruck duties.go look at his yr if you want a ruckman. kruezer then came back mid yr on one leg and forced hampson out. seems to me young ruckmen at carlton just kept on usurping him. he has never ever taken over the #1 ruck role at carlton hes never done enough to warrant it.
you must be asking the blinkered carlton fans. most i have spoken too have been highly critical of him right thruout.most complain because all you get from him is the odd glimpse.
his best two seasons if you can call mediocrity his best were in 09 and 2012 and those yrs can only be described as average at the very best.
finally yes we have taken a calculated risk at least you can acknowledge its a risk.
yes i do call him a spud based on his 7 yrs which have been very ordinary which no one here can acknowledge.
i havent said he cant improve but based on his 7yrs and his age imo its more unlikely than likely.
we all hope he can do a maric but the comparisons in performance in the lead up to us taking them both are chalk and cheese.
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For the love of mike give it a rest Claw..just let the season take care of the success or not of the Hampson deal
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If he is going to be the number one ruck needs to kick between 22 - 44 goals
I was thinking more like 26-48 goals Chucky! :thumbsup
You can't break the pattern like that, do you have any idea of whAt you have just done
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Going to be a very good pick up this one, well worth the trade :clapping
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Is a great tap ruckman. Massive leap. Its around the ground and up forward is where I will be most keen for him to contribute. If he can take a few marks it will help with link play and score board pressure too
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. most i have spoken too have been highly critical of him right thruout.most complain...
I see a definite pattern here.....
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Is a great tap ruckman. Massive leap. Its around the ground and up forward is where I will be most keen for him to contribute. If he can take a few marks it will help with link play and score board pressure too
Agree...problem is, based on 7 years of exposed form, it's a huge if....
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Claw only rates WA footballers.He's very open minded.
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
if o is too old and not much good why did we keep him with the shortage of first rucks on the list.why keep a spud at any time.
to me purely as a ruckman and in just 14 games at age 32 or what ever orren has statistically been much better than hampson as a pure ruckman. its funny you cant find one poster on this site who will talk about hampsons 7 pathetic seasons to date and just how much of a risk he is.
cmon can anyone at all show me where hes had just one very ave yr yet alone decent in the 7 yrs hes played.
how much room for improvement is there in most 26yo olds.
ive gotta ask am i the only one who insists hampson after 7yrs of nothing prove himself before i call him a good pick up. forget about where hampson was originally taken focus on 7 yrs of performance. with what vickery has dished up thus far do you see me focusing on where he was taken which by the way was pick 8 should he better because he was taken there.
The season Kruezer was out with a knee, hampson took the number 1 ruck mantle for 12-15 weeks and played the best footy of his life cant recall if it was 2011 or 2012, ask any carlton fan. Its snippets like this that clubs store in their memory bank when looking to bring someone into the club like we have. Obviously we thought he's shown a bit and have taken a calculated risk. Just bc you think hes a complete and utter spud with zero chance of improving, doesn't necessarily make it so. There is no shame in being the number 3 choice behind kreuzer and Warnock. Sam Jacobs was behind them in the pecking order too, and he hasn't been too bad.
thats a good spin on it.
kruezer did his knee rnd 13 2010. both warnock and jacobs took over the mantle in that yr. jacobs in just yr 2. jacobs went home to adelaide at the end of that yr having already shot past hampson and warnock.
warnock had his best season in 2011 taking over the ruck duties.go look at his yr if you want a ruckman. kruezer then came back mid yr on one leg and forced hampson out. seems to me young ruckmen at carlton just kept on usurping him. he has never ever taken over the #1 ruck role at carlton hes never done enough to warrant it.
you must be asking the blinkered carlton fans. most i have spoken too have been highly critical of him right thruout.most complain because all you get from him is the odd glimpse.
his best two seasons if you can call mediocrity his best were in 09 and 2012 and those yrs can only be described as average at the very best.
finally yes we have taken a calculated risk at least you can acknowledge its a risk.
yes i do call him a spud based on his 7 yrs which have been very ordinary which no one here can acknowledge.
i havent said he cant improve but based on his 7yrs and his age imo its more unlikely than likely.
we all hope he can do a maric but the comparisons in performance in the lead up to us taking them both are chalk and cheese.
I love how your views and those of the people you ask are 'objective' and everyone else that disagrees with you is not... Why would the carlton fans Ive spoken to be 'blinkered'? what do they have to gain by talking him up now that hes an opposition player? :huh3
I don't think anyone says he'll be a Maric mkII but most objective supporters will see our recent history in targeting recycled players TO PLAY A ROLE in our 22 (before you start on players like Lonergan who were recruited purely for emergency depth) and give the player a chance to prove the clubs decision right before slagging it off ad bloody nauseum.
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:lol
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Cause o ain't much good
O is old
Hampson former first rounder or there about - room for improvement
A ruck man in mid 20s was required for list balance
And the big one - would Carlton have accepted third rounder?
if o is too old and not much good why did we keep him with the shortage of first rucks on the list.why keep a spud at any time.
to me purely as a ruckman and in just 14 games at age 32 or what ever orren has statistically been much better than hampson as a pure ruckman. its funny you cant find one poster on this site who will talk about hampsons 7 pathetic seasons to date and just how much of a risk he is.
cmon can anyone at all show me where hes had just one very ave yr yet alone decent in the 7 yrs hes played.
how much room for improvement is there in most 26yo olds.
ive gotta ask am i the only one who insists hampson after 7yrs of nothing prove himself before i call him a good pick up. forget about where hampson was originally taken focus on 7 yrs of performance. with what vickery has dished up thus far do you see me focusing on where he was taken which by the way was pick 8 should he better because he was taken there.
The season Kruezer was out with a knee, hampson took the number 1 ruck mantle for 12-15 weeks and played the best footy of his life cant recall if it was 2011 or 2012, ask any carlton fan. Its snippets like this that clubs store in their memory bank when looking to bring someone into the club like we have. Obviously we thought he's shown a bit and have taken a calculated risk. Just bc you think hes a complete and utter spud with zero chance of improving, doesn't necessarily make it so. There is no shame in being the number 3 choice behind kreuzer and Warnock. Sam Jacobs was behind them in the pecking order too, and he hasn't been too bad.
thats a good spin on it.
kruezer did his knee rnd 13 2010. both warnock and jacobs took over the mantle in that yr. jacobs in just yr 2. jacobs went home to adelaide at the end of that yr having already shot past hampson and warnock.
warnock had his best season in 2011 taking over the ruck duties.go look at his yr if you want a ruckman. kruezer then came back mid yr on one leg and forced hampson out. seems to me young ruckmen at carlton just kept on usurping him. he has never ever taken over the #1 ruck role at carlton hes never done enough to warrant it.
you must be asking the blinkered carlton fans. most i have spoken too have been highly critical of him right thruout.most complain because all you get from him is the odd glimpse.
his best two seasons if you can call mediocrity his best were in 09 and 2012 and those yrs can only be described as average at the very best.
finally yes we have taken a calculated risk at least you can acknowledge its a risk.
yes i do call him a spud based on his 7 yrs which have been very ordinary which no one here can acknowledge.
i havent said he cant improve but based on his 7yrs and his age imo its more unlikely than likely.
we all hope he can do a maric but the comparisons in performance in the lead up to us taking them both are chalk and cheese.
I love how your views and those of the people you ask are 'objective' and everyone else that disagrees with you is not... Why would the carlton fans Ive spoken to be 'blinkered'? what do they have to gain by talking him up now that hes an opposition player? :huh3
I don't think anyone says he'll be a Maric mkII but most objective supporters will see our recent history in targeting recycled players TO PLAY A ROLE in our 22 (before you start on players like Lonergan who were recruited purely for emergency depth) and give the player a chance to prove the clubs decision right before slagging it off ad bloody nauseum.
lol all i was doing was pointing out that plenty of carlton fans were glad to see the back of him. 7yrs of mediocrity would suggest to me that those i have spoken to are realistic.
i also pointed out he has never had a good yr has been overtaken by every ruckman thats gone thru carltons system and at no time has he taken over the #1 mantle which was all conveniently ignored.
when people can actually acknowledge hes been poor for 7 yrs i will let go of it. only diacletion has spoken about hampsons 7 yrs of exposed form and can admit its a damn worry.
im not going to call him a good player or good pick up until he can actually show hes a good pick up or good player. while people can come on here and talk him up im coming on here and pointing out what hes done to date.
im constantly asked to balance out what i say yet those expectations are not applied to yourself and others. seems its okay to waffle on as often as you like about how good a player is or how good he will become or how good the deal was in getting him but you cant if your going to point out the negatives.
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I think I'm gonna wait to get Claw's opinion on all this before formulating one of my own.
Claw?
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:lol
People don't expect you talk him up, people aren't talking him up, they are however giving him a chance before labelling him.. ahh bugger it I give up :sleep
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Blair has the runs on the board. I'm going to back him with this one. He deserves that!
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Watching Longer play...I am so happy we went for Hampson and not that dud.
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At Carlton he was never given the responsibility of the ruck. Kruezer was better at ground level and was seen to have greater potential as a No. 1 pick, Warnick was taller and seems as a pure tap ruck man. Hampson was better forward than Warnock so was forced into this role.
Hampson is a ruck who can go forward not a forward who can ruck. Lets give him a chance in his new role at the Tigers and then judge him. You can't use pat history where he was played out of position. It's like judging Shultz on his back line play and when he had to compete with Richo in the forward line - some players thrive on when they are given complete responsibility
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At Carlton he was never given the responsibility of the ruck. Kruezer was better at ground level and was seen to have greater potential as a No. 1 pick, Warnick was taller and seems as a pure tap ruck man. Hampson was better forward than Warnock so was forced into this role.
Hampson is a ruck who can go forward not a forward who can ruck. Lets give him a chance in his new role at the Tigers and then judge him. You can't use pat history where he was played out of position. It's like judging Shultz on his back line play and when he had to compete with Richo in the forward line - some players thrive on when they are given complete responsibility
:clapping
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
"Just stuff off" might be the response
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:lol
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
I guess on the basis we won't have Maric for about 8 weeks. Inspired decision if you ask me.
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Trading a 2nd rounder for this bloke is an inspired decision? Fair enough. ;D
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He will stand up!
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Trading a 2nd rounder for this bloke is an inspired decision? Fair enough. ;D
I see him as a better ruck and around the ground player than the big O. He is also better than Longer at the moment. Many were hoping to get Garlett with this choice. Doesn't look great for him at the moment.
So with Maric's injury, I do think it is an inspired selection.
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
I guess on the basis we won't have Maric for about 8 weeks. Inspired decision if you ask me.
Valid point although it sounds as if they never anticipated this injury (not that you ever do) and expected him to get through the year so sounds more like a lucky decision than an inspired one. I'm undecided on him as most will acknowledge he has had a poor to somewhat average at times start to his career but he is a giant athletic ruckman who usually come on a bit later in their careers apart from the freaks. Will reserve judgement until a few games into the year
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The other thing in his favour is that he took up footy reasonably late. I believe he didn't touch a footy till 2004 and first played in a team in 2005. This means he still has a lot of improvement left in him.
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Are you taking the pee now?
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Are you taking the pee now?
No. Why? I'm not saying the guy will be a superstar but he deserves a good chance by the RFC supporters and I am hoping for the teams sake that he can deliver!
From what I saw against Collingwood, there is definitely something to work on.
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
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I think its safe to assume that every mature aged player brought to the club is seen as a role player. Like Maric before him, Hampson was starved of opportunities and played out of position due to other players being rated higher than he at his old club. Jacobs was seen as better than Maric, so the Ivan was barely played near the end of his time at the Crows. Did this make him a poor ruckman? Hampson should be awarded the same time and delay in judgement as the Mullet was afforded as he begins his career in the yellow sash.
The Mullet came in and replaced a very weak ruck combination so automatically looked great. He embraced the positivity from our supporters, grew in confidence and became one of the best performed rucks in the league.
When Hartley was searching for a ruck to trade in he was undecided on whether we should target Maric or Hampson. He rated them both and saw them in similar situations at their respective clubs. Both offered different elements to the role but both were statistically strong and under-rated in the football community. We were able to get Maric for less and he was keener to come at that stage so that is why we traded for him first.
Hampson is not an Ablett in a tall mans body, he not a 200cm+ Dangerfield or a ruck version of Pendlebury. He is a tap ruckman who will feed our midfield and compete strongly against the other tall/athletic rucks in the competition. If you are going to judge him, judge him for his rucking. Anything else he gives us is a bonus.
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
I'll hold my judgement till he has played a few games as a number 1 ruckman for us
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
I'll hold my judgement till he has played a few games as a number 1 ruckman for us
A few is too many how about two games and then we go into meltdown
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
I'll hold my judgement till he has played a few games as a number 1 ruckman for us
A few is too many how about two games and then we go into meltdown
Love your optimism Chucky! :thumbsup
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
I'll hold my judgement till he has played a few games as a number 1 ruckman for us
A few is too many how about two games and then we go into meltdown
id prefer just to go with one personally but happy to wait till 2 if you insist.
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If he performs better than O it's a win. Maybe not worth 2nd round pick but we'll wait and see
It was a very late 2nd rounder after the comp picks in a weak draft don't forget.
I'll hold my judgement till he has played a few games as a number 1 ruckman for us
A few is too many how about two games and then we go into meltdown
id prefer just to go with one personally but happy to wait till 2 if you insist.
:lol
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
I guess on the basis we won't have Maric for about 8 weeks. Inspired decision if you ask me.
Valid point although it sounds as if they never anticipated this injury (not that you ever do) and expected him to get through the year so sounds more like a lucky decision than an inspired one. I'm undecided on him as most will acknowledge he has had a poor to somewhat average at times start to his career but he is a giant athletic ruckman who usually come on a bit later in their careers apart from the freaks. Will reserve judgement until a few games into the year
nothing lucky about it. we had to take a ruckman who could come in and give maric a decent chop out. every single poster practically acknowledged that before we took hampson. if it wasnt hampson it had to be someone else.
basically i agree with your sentiments. all i have constantly been at pains to say and point out is hampsons 7yrs to date are nothing to inspire and if we base our judgments on his 7yr performances to date there are no guarantees he will make it.
for me id prefer we went after a different ruckman based on his 7yrs that is his performances to date and his age. he should have truly esatblished himself by now and it just hasnt happened.
thats about all i have argued about here. i certainly am critical that we used a second rounder on him and we didnt really bother looking at any other ruck options both short and long term. im also critical and hampson was a part of it that we could only take one kid right across the board this yr.
personally i would really like another two junior ruckmen in our system say one around 18 20 another with some real development in him around 22. what id like to see is a real succession plan put in place with juniors who have a real chance of becoming #1 ruckmen.
we need to be able to say well orren is for the knackery and not really for afl anymore there should be a junior in development.. we need to be able to say ivan is getting on and will always have issues with his body and is more likely than not going to be a short term prospect so we should have someone in our system in development.
finally we need to be able to say what if hampson stays at the level hes been at for 7 yrs. we need to have a plan in place for this and have say a 22 yo in development.
if we had a decent succesion plan in place there would never have been a need to go out chasing your marics knobels simmonds hampsons etc etc etc etc.
believe it or not i am hoping like mad that hampson can become a consistent decent player for us. once the season starts i will give him the yr to either prove himself or fail.
i do know he cant be worse than vickery or derickx, i question if he will offer more than orren as a first ruck atm. he has a long way to go to even get close to marics output.
yep i get it people have had enough of my criticisms about us taking him. i realise i am going over old stuff and its become a bit too repetitive. it is time for me to stop and give him the time to show he can become a good player.
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Very good pick up. :gotigers
Based on what
I guess on the basis we won't have Maric for about 8 weeks. Inspired decision if you ask me.
Valid point although it sounds as if they never anticipated this injury (not that you ever do) and expected him to get through the year so sounds more like a lucky decision than an inspired one. I'm undecided on him as most will acknowledge he has had a poor to somewhat average at times start to his career but he is a giant athletic ruckman who usually come on a bit later in their careers apart from the freaks. Will reserve judgement until a few games into the year
nothing lucky about it. we had to take a ruckman who could come in and give maric a decent chop out. every single poster practically acknowledged that before we took hampson. if it wasnt hampson it had to be someone else.
basically i agree with your sentiments. all i have constantly been at pains to say and point out is hampsons 7yrs to date are nothing to inspire and if we base our judgments on his 7yr performances to date there are no guarantees he will make it.
for me id prefer we went after a different ruckman based on his 7yrs that is his performances to date and his age. he should have truly esatblished himself by now and it just hasnt happened.
thats about all i have argued about here. i certainly am critical that we used a second rounder on him and we didnt really bother looking at any other ruck options both short and long term. im also critical and hampson was a part of it that we could only take one kid right across the board this yr.
personally i would really like another two junior ruckmen in our system say one around 18 20 another with some real development in him around 22. what id like to see is a real succession plan put in place with juniors who have a real chance of becoming #1 ruckmen.
we need to be able to say well orren is for the knackery and not really for afl anymore there should be a junior in development.. we need to be able to say ivan is getting on and will always have issues with his body and is more likely than not going to be a short term prospect so we should have someone in our system in development.
finally we need to be able to say what if hampson stays at the level hes been at for 7 yrs. we need to have a plan in place for this and have say a 22 yo in development.
if we had a decent succesion plan in place there would never have been a need to go out chasing your marics knobels simmonds hampsons etc etc etc etc.
believe it or not i am hoping like mad that hampson can become a consistent decent player for us. once the season starts i will give him the yr to either prove himself or fail.
i do know he cant be worse than vickery or derickx, i question if he will offer more than orren as a first ruck atm. he has a long way to go to even get close to marics output.
yep i get it people have had enough of my criticisms about us taking him. i realise i am going over old stuff and its become a bit too repetitive. it is time for me to stop and give him the time to show he can become a good player.
You've won me over with that one claw! :clapping
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x2 clawski :cheers
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well done claw..
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Who can argue with that. ??
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ffs resource limit.
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ffs resource limit.
pppfffftttt kill joy.
all i can say to that is cmon the hampster prove me wrong.
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Yesss big Clawasaurus, join the party. That's how we roll 'round these parts :clapping
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megan gale's hampster :clapping
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Who can argue with that. ??
I'll give it a go. Allow me to get to a computer :shh
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SEN reporter just said that at half-time, Hampson had 17 hitouts and 41% were to advantage so he gave the Tiger midfielders first use of the footy.
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:clapping
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Took a screamer too repelling an attack.
I thought he was very good today.
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Hope he ditches horsehead.
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Hardly noticed him, his around the ground work borders on spasticism
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Hardly noticed him, his around the ground work borders on wackoism
He was subbed at half time CUB. I thought he dominated the ruck and took some good marks around the ground in the first half.
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Hope he ditches horsehead.
Got a foal in the oven. Not a smart move atm
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Hardly noticed him, his around the ground work borders on wackoism
Dunno what "wackoism" is but if it means "non-existent", then I agree.....
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Hope he ditches horsehead.
Got a foal in the oven. Not a smart move atm
Must play 100 games if it is a stallion.
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Tigers can't do without Hampson
Jake Niall
The Age
March 13, 2014
When Richmond gave up its second round draft selection for Shaun Hampson in October, there were sceptics aplenty within the football fraternity who considered that the Tigers had paid ''overs.''
Hampson, who turns 26 next week, had been an inconsistent forward/ruck with the Blues who mustered just 63 games in seven years and was better known to the outside world - read the New Idea demographic - as ''Mr Megan Gale.''
In the AFL, ''plus one'' usually means playing as the extra man in defence. In Hampson's case, he's been perceived as the ''plus one'' on the A-list invitations, as appendage to the supermodel.
But Hampson has an opportunity over the next six or seven weeks to transform himself - as Ivan Maric did two seasons ago - from a third string ruckman at his first club to a significant, crucial player, at Tigerland.
Maric is in recovery from ankle surgery that will likely keep the gallant ruckman from playing seniors from the first six weeks, at the least.
For Hampson, Saturday night's game represents the beginning of a stretch of several weeks, in which he will find himself in the unfamiliar position of being a player that his team desperately needs - and is counting on - rather than one perpetually on the fringes of selection.
Hampson isn't merely expensive insurance, or what Mick Malthouse likes to call ''coverage.'' The Tigers purchased him, knowing that Maric had been overworked and that his battered body needed respite.
They also wanted a second ruck, with some forward capability, because the plan was for Tyrone Vickery to play as a permanent forward.
Maric's absence has upgraded Hampson in the pecking order. On Saturday night, he will be first ruck, a position he's slated to fill for as long as Maric is missing. He's not the ''plus one'' extra of Richmond's rucks.
In round two, Hampson will face one or both of Matthew Kreuzer and Robbie Warnock, the team mates who were rated ahead of him as ruck options at Carlton. For the first time in his career, he'll have the virtual guarantee of selection for several weeks.
Hampson appeals as yet another instance of a big man who is far more suited to the ruck than a spot as a second or third tall forward. He is athletic, with both the ability to run and a sizeable leap. Brendon Lade, the former Port ruck master and stoppage coach at Tigerland, shapes as an ideal mentor for a player who hasn't had an abundance of opportunities as a ruckman.
Hampson will be matched to Tom Nicholls from the Suns, due to the unavailability (knee injury) of Gold Coast's no 1 ruckman, Zac Smith, so the new Tiger will have his opponent covered for experience, with Charlie Dixon - most adept as a forward - the Suns' probable back-up ruck.
Richmond's other mature recruit - another ''moneyball'' type and discard - Matt Thomas could find himself with an even greater challenge than Hampson, given that Richmond's premier tagger, Daniel Jackson, is injured and Damien Hardwick will need to draft someone - volunteers will be scant - to ''run with'' Gary Ablett.
At Carlton, Hampson was regarded as a quiet, nice guy, who was respectful of team mates, but perhaps minus the mongrel that can separate those at the margins from automatics. In this sense, he's quite different to Maric, but also has dimensions - athletic qualities mainly - that Ivan lacks.
The Tigers have thrown Hampson a lifejacket and, as the first game beckons, he's unexpectedly become a lifejacket of sorts for them.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-cant-do-without-hampson-20140312-hvhx0.html
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Good article. Hampson needs confidence and needs to find aggression. Time to wheel out Chocco again and, when he's fit, have Maric smash him a few times.
The other thing I would have him do is train as a midfielder - yes midfielder. It would really help with his followup work after he brings the ball to ground.
We're lucky to have him at this stage :thumbsup
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Hope he ditches horsehead.
Wow if horses looked like Hamp's missus I would have been arrested for animal husbandry a long time ago.
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:lol
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Wow if horses looked like Hamp's missus I would have been arrested for animal husbandry a long time ago.
Didn't they drop that charge and only proceded with the beastiality charge ?
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Wow if horses looked like Hamp's missus I would have been arrested for animal husbandry a long time ago.
Didn't they drop that charge and only proceded with the beastiality charge ?
Negatori snake eyes. No DNA to be found
(http://www.supanews.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/U/L/8/UL851851.jpg)
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my horse steak tastes like hospital and boys :(
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:lol
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63 games in 7 years don't equate to a champion, which is what people are silently hoping for.
No Maric ,No hope.
Deal with it.
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Maric wasn't a champion at Adelaide either and lets face it he's really only been a one season wonder at Richmond thus far - was average at best last year and we still made the 8. Hamspud can at least break even in the hit-outs and he usually taps to advantage - my big problem with him is that he's so utterly useless around the ground that we're virtually a man down in general play with him on the field.
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You underestimate Ivan.
He has the ability to get the team to lift.
He's a stuffn gun like that.
His physical presence is as importnt as whether he is a great ruck man or not.
A bloke with leadership qualities in a team of soft cox.
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You underestimate Ivan.
He has the ability to get the team to lift.
He's a stuffn gun like that.
His physical presence is as importnt as whether he is a great ruck man or not.
A bloke with leadership qualities in a team of soft cox.
:clapping
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You underestimate Ivan.
He has the ability to get the team to lift.
He's a stuffn gun like that.
His physical presence is as importnt as whether he is a great ruck man or not.
A bloke with leadership qualities in a team of soft cox.
In 2012 yes, but last year I only saw brief glimpses of that. People shouldn't mistake things like his goal in the EF as being indicative of his whole year - it wasn't. Was often non-competative against the better rucks - to the point we even conceded the hit-outs and devised a new strategy against West Coast, which luckily paid off- partly because WC were poo last year. Was about as quick as treacle and looked like a log around the ground - opposition players regularly skipped around and away from him with ease, was often fumbly with the ball, slow in attack - and frankly, his disposal and decision-making was almost comical at times.
Though all that around the ground stuff is still better than Hamspud on a good day.
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in fairness, his groin was rooted though. you could tell he wasnt moving with any real freedom.
the strange thing is that they said before last season that his problem couldnt be operated on but only managed, then they sent him in for surgery post season.. :huh
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I think this will be a great game for Hampson to gain confidence over a smaller opponent. If he can ruck out the game and win the 'taps to advantage' I will be wrapped. I'm not expecting him to become a NickNat. I just want him to play his role which is the exact reason he was traded for - to play a role. Maric was recruited to play a role too and grew from that into one of the better ruckmen in the league.
I don't expect Hampson to make the same rapid improvement but the opportunity is there for him now and I don't think he will let his team-mates down. Maric will become our Ottens (Geelong version) and be played sparingly now. I don't think his body will let him play for long periods any longer so Hampsons recruitment and Griffiths improvement is extremely timely.
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in fairness, his groin was rooted though. you could tell he wasnt moving with any real freedom.
the strange thing is that they said before last season that his problem couldnt be operated on but only managed, then they sent him in for surgery post season.. :huh
:whistle
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You underestimate Ivan.
He has the ability to get the team to lift.
He's a stuffn gun like that.
His physical presence is as importnt as whether he is a great ruck man or not.
A bloke with leadership qualities in a team of soft cox.
In 2012 yes, but last year I only saw brief glimpses of that. People shouldn't mistake things like his goal in the EF as being indicative of his whole year - it wasn't. Was often non-competative against the better rucks - to the point we even conceded the hit-outs and devised a new strategy against West Coast, which luckily paid off- partly because WC were poo last year. Was about as quick as treacle and looked like a log around the ground - opposition players regularly skipped around and away from him with ease, was often fumbly with the ball, slow in attack - and frankly, his disposal and decision-making was almost comical at times.
Though all that around the ground stuff is still better than Hamspud on a good day.
An injury prone 2013 nullified his efforts, granted yet he went about his business and played above what his body was dictating. .... Unlike Jack.
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Shaun Hampson speaks to Roar vision ahead of Saturday night's round 1 clash against the Gold Coast Suns.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-03-14/hampson-on-roar-vision
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on maric im with ox.
on hampsons game i thought it was a good one in the ruck. didnt do much else though.. hes yet to go up against a real frontline ruckman. then we will see what we have here.
anyway you can only play against whats in front of you. most signs look good to date.
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Also liked hampsons effort
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hat off to angus
played well. tap work nice
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Battled hard. One of our best but that is saying something
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Ruckwork is sublime, his around the ground work needs improvement, looks a little unfit - work in progress hopefully, was good tonight
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Reckon he hurt himself in the last 2 mins
Groin ?
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Battled hard. One of our best but that is saying something
x 2
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will actually get better with confidence.
Not hard to get some when ur surrounded by sihtmen
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very average like most of the team
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excellent tap-work imo
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When we were smashed early it was on the back of GC winning centre break after centre break.
Delist.
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It looked like it took a quarter for our mids and Hampson to get on the same wavelength. Hampson would get a clear tap and tap the ball behind him into space in the corridor and no Tiger mid was there.
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Was crap. Is crap.
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When we were smashed early it was on the back of GC winning centre break after centre break.
Delist.
I actually thought that the mids were muscled out early snd Hampson then gave us first use of the ball and allowed the team to get back into the game!
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Was crap. Is crap.
Na mate tap work was effective but his mates were a no show.
Where was foley, Titch tambling, Grigg, Newman and Martin
No where
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His tap work was excellent
No team mates at drop of ball
Can't be left to Cotchin all the time
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It looked like it took a quarter for our mids and Hampson to get on the same wavelength. Hampson would get a clear tap and tap the ball behind him into space in the corridor and no Tiger mid was there.
Thought the same thing for most of the night MT. He was winning clear taps but to paraphrase a great man - 'our mids were where the ball ain't'.
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His tap work was excellent
No team mates at drop of ball
Can't be left to Cotchin all the time
Yep, GC sharked his tap work in that 1st qtr.
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His tap work is not the problem and never has been, it's his complete lack of presence around the ground. Barely recall seeing him outside a ruck contest until the last quarter. Lost & lazy. Do you ever see him back filling a hole or taking an important mark like Maric does? Harrassing opponents in the midfield? For all his athleticism does he ever use it - taller, faster, more agile than Maric, yet about 1%of the physical presence & work ethic.
You just can't afford to can't afford to carry invisible ruckmen in general play in the modern game. Like an Angus Graham who can win hit-outs - and that's not a good thing. Hell, at least Graham occasionally got in the way - even if was more often than not of his own teammates.
Injuries were not the only reason a ruckman with such impressive hit-out to advantage numbers was getting left out of his previous club's first 22 so often.
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Angus was pretty poor...
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Hampson not an instinctual player. He needs to be coached/told where to go and what to. He needs to be told to stick with the opposition ruckman or crowd the backline or go forward or play up the wing. If he's not he appears to just run around like an under 10's ruck - ball chasing. He'll figure it out and what his role is soon enough.
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VIDEO: Hampson's interview post-match ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-03-14/hampson-on-roar-vision
* I just loved pre-season, love what the Club’s about – players, staff, coaches, right the way through. Could not be happier to represent the Club.
* I’ve been brought into the team as backup for Ivvy. I play forward and help him out when he needs a rest. But, obviously, big Ivvy’s injured so I’ve taken the No.1 spot and I’m working my arse off to not let the boys down. I’ve got a full pre-season under the belt, which is good. Always helps going into the season. It’s been tough but a really good one.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-03-17/hampson-expresses-his-tiger-passion
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Interesting to look back at some of the bile spewed early in this thread.
Hampson has been a godsend (especially in Maric's absence) and played very well against the Suns.
Damn glad to have him at Richmond. :thumbsup
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I had a dream last night that he did one of those little behind his head taps and it went straight to Murphy who was standing there by himself :banghead
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Underrated this bloke. :clapping :clapping
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Underrated this bloke. :clapping :clapping
How? Can get his hands on it in the ruck but does nothing else. Maric in Hampson straight out (when Maric has recovered)
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If Maric can leap. Hampson at least can.
Should consider playing them both. But I want to see more of Griff.
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Think he is going really well at the minute!
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Think he is going really well at the minute!
I agree and think he is growing in confidence too. Warnock usually smashes us in the ruck but Hampson was out jumping him and at least bringing it to ground. Warnock would typically win the hit outs against Maric but also put it straight down the throat of his midfielders. Against Hampson he may have got his hand to the ball but he could place it like he usual has in the past.
Still need to clunk more marks but will compliment Maric well in the center duels and around the ground. I do worry that Griffiths will be pushed aside when Maric returns as I actually feel that Griff offers more around the ground than either of the other two.
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He's been great.
Good on him and good on us.
I love being wrong
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He's been great.
Good on him and good on us.
I love being wrong
agree. i wouldnt go so far as to say great but hes been pretty decent. he wasnt bought to the club to be better than maric it just aint going to happen.
we got him to give ivan a decent chop out while remaining competetive at ruck contests.that we have been so far without ivan. we got him to be that big third tall target when ivan is playing..
to me theres two or three possibilities that can happen when ivan is fit.
hampson plays the 2ndruck/third tall role and griffiths is dropped. or griffiths is retained and he forces one of vickery or riewoldt out as a kpf. athird possibility could be we play all three and rotate one from the bench at all times.
interesting times ahead id say.
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Think he is going really well at the minute!
I agree and think he is growing in confidence too. Warnock usually smashes us in the ruck but Hampson was out jumping him and at least bringing it to ground. Warnock would typically win the hit outs against Maric but also put it straight down the throat of his midfielders. Against Hampson he may have got his hand to the ball but he could place it like he usual has in the past.
Still need to clunk more marks but will compliment Maric well in the center duels and around the ground. I do worry that Griffiths will be pushed aside when Maric returns as I actually feel that Griff offers more around the ground than either of the other two.
Exactly my thoughts Stripes! :thumbsup
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Would personally drop him from the side when maric is fit.
Hampson is serviceable. Yet in would rate the forward trident of Tyrone/ jack/Griffith as more important and the partnership should not be disrupted.
Some teams are playing 3 ruck man, so its not impossible all five play. Throw in mcbean and it is confusing
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Most of the good sides are playing two genuine rucks.
Hawks - McEvoy and Hale
Cats - McIntosh and Simpson (with Blicavs as sub!)
Sydney - Pyke and Derickx
Freo - Sandilands and Hannath
WCE - Cox and Naitanui
So I think it's surely a winning combination to play two. And whilst Griff and Vickery may be serviceable neither appear to be genuine rucks. So IMO we should play Hampson and Maric. If Griff or Vickery are dropped that's unfortunate but so be it.
Maybe Griff as sub? lol
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Some are playing 3.
West Coast have Cox, Nic Nat and either Lycette or Sinclair.
Hawthorn have Hale, McEvoy and use Roughead around the ground like Griff.
Geelong have the three you mentioned.
Freo have Sandilands, Hannath and often play a third tall.
I think it depends on how good your extra big man is around the ground. Griff has shown he can more than ruck. He can take grabs and is good when the ball hits the deck and is a great field kick. He also lays more tackles than many of his team mates.
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I don't think Hampson will be much better than he is now, and unfortunately that's not real good.
He's never played more than 15 games in a season in 7 years (15 games max back in 2009).
I think he was just the best available experienced ruckman around during the draft period.
Unless the Tigers can get him to play a hell of a lot more games, then IMO he is only filling in until we get a great ruckman, which hopefully won't be too long.
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Bump
No Matty Leungburger no worries for Angus
We have found a gem here lads
Monkey Ball at its best
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Leads the AFL with hit outs to advantage…..
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How many has he kicked up forward this year?
Ordinary at best.
Why not push for Billy Longer?
Please Ivan come back soon.
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Leads the AFL with hit outs to advantage…..
What a useless stat just like Griggs 30 possession games
Angus played against which ruckman again let me see.
GC- who knows
Blues- spud warnock
Buldogs- will (can't remember he played)
Pies- grundy
Lions - who knows
Stop reaching son the guy is useless
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anyway,
Good effort to play he week his father passed away
Condolences.
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Whose advantage were those little over the shoulder taps too? Mainly Brisbane's when they finally sussed it out after he did it for the third time in a row.
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Leads the AFL with hit outs to advantage…..
What a useless stat just like Griggs 30 possession games
Angus played against which ruckman again let me see.
GC- who knows
Blues- spud warnock
Buldogs- will (can't remember he played)
Pies- grundy
Lions - who knows
Stop reaching son the guy is useless
Tom Nicholls - young but good up and coming ruck
Spud Warnock - the same spud that destroyed us after half time in the elimination final giving Judd and co. an armchair ride.
Injured against the doggies.
Brodie Grundy - subbed out as he was beaten by Hampson and wasn't doing anything around the ground
Beat Trent West hands down and many were saying what a great pick he was but the Lions.
The guy is an excellent tap ruck man. Needs to improve his around the ground work……a lot.
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Whose advantage were those little over the shoulder taps too? Mainly Brisbane's when they finally sussed it out after he did it for the third time in a row.
The stats are to advantage. They do not include those to the opposition.
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agre yandbb, tapwork is top shelf, the rest of his game however...
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I agree too, was just wondering aloud about those particular instances where he clearly overplayed his hand.
Was actually almost serviceable around the ground last night....almost.
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Leads the AFL with hit outs to advantage…..
What a useless stat just like Griggs 30 possession games
Angus played against which ruckman again let me see.
GC- who knows
Blues- spud warnock
Buldogs- will (can't remember he played)
Pies- grundy
Lions - who knows
Stop reaching son the guy is useless
Bit harsh Angus. I recon he goes alright when it comes to his ruckwork and I've watched him pretty closely because I never wanted him anywhere near us. But credit where credit is due, he has been better than I thought he could be in the ruck. Needs to contribute around the ground though as most would agree.
Although most ruck men are pretty useless when it comes to getting a kick. Only a couple of decent ruckmen in the league that do more than just contest the ruckwork. Far from our worst.
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Whose advantage were those little over the shoulder taps too? Mainly Brisbane's when they finally sussed it out after he did it for the third time in a row.
The stats are to advantage. They do not include those to the opposition.
Agree, it's not hard to find things wrong with the a Tigers ATM but this isn't a problem.
He's a work in progress but it's a bit like a key forward - I'd take 4 goals per game from Jack first and then the other stuff. Given our past challenges in the ruck, I'll take those hit outs to advantage and now look to his improved around the ground play.
Will be a good contest against big boy McEvoy next week.
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Reckon he has been ok
Has carried bad knee since round 2 and has stood up in difficult times
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I think he has been going well too. Has done enough to justify his recruitment, I still think he has more to offer and we will see him improve.
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Brings back the good old memories of the Knob
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Think his doing a great job :thumbsup
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LMAO @ hit outs to advantage being irrelevant for a ruckman.
agre yandbb, tapwork is top shelf, the rest of his game however...
yeah, agree Tony. It would be good to get more out him around the ground
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Oh you guys
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Oh you guys
You hate it when we all agree don't you Chucky? ;D
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LMAO @ hit outs to advantage being irrelevant for a ruckman.
Wouldn't that be equivalent to something like, Full Forwards don't need to kick goals to be useful :rollin
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Still waiting for Hampson to take a contested mark, can this guy actually catch a ball, seem to remember playing the scum and he was a thorn in our side with his contested marking, would guess i could count his contested marks this season on one hand. Think he must do his own rub downs with goanna oil but forgets to wash his hands, never seen a big man fumble so often. Cant deny his tapwork is reasonable but once that's over he is pretty much useless having impact anywhere else on the ground.
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Though his tap work today was brilliant
Thought that tap that went straight down Sam Mitchell's throat was an absolute gem :clapping
As for a contested mark, just one will do but it's highly unlikely
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Angus Graham is better
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Like being a man down
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Angus Graham is better
Around the ground he was. In the ruck he was poo.
Really miss Maric so so so much!
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my opinion on this guy wont and cant change, while we have these types nowhere we go :banghead
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He make angus graham look like Polly farmer , his work around the ground is at c grade amateur standard ....get him out of the side immediately :o
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Yep - Sean Hampson is officially a Tiger......
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We gave up pick 28 for him and Hawthorn got McEvoy for 17.
McEvoy ran more in Hawthorn's pre game warm up than what Hampson did all day.
Pee off pee heart.
Would rather Orren in the side, contests more and does more around the ground.
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
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Is a good tap ruckman....
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Playing injured = RFC philosophy :scream
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Playing injured = RFC philosophy :scream
If you're not injured you don't get a game. What do you think Lids/Rance/Maric are doing? They've been lying in the middle of Punt Road trying to get hit by a truck so they can get a game. Sounds like Lids and Rancey may have been in luck. :shh
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Cant believe Hartley said we should give up a 2nd round pick for this bloke. Seriously what the stuff is going on at Punt Road!
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
It shows no imagination or ability to take chance on a kid! FFS all you had to do was visit a few phantom drafts before the ND and make selections based on them and you would get more right than wrong...... :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
Been playing injured since round 2
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Yes, he's has had a chronic marking injury since birth...
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
Been playing injured since round 2
Certainly looks like it.
I'm not entirely sure what the point is of that seeing as we're getting beaten and we have Orren in the wings.
Perhaps now that the season appears shot they'll give him a rest.
Can't say I'm all that thrilled with the recruiters that his knee issues (of which he has a history) have flared so early in his contract.
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Things stick to Teflon more than a piece of leather sticks to his hands. I reckon it's an eyesight problem, on some occasions from a long kick situation he completely misjudges the flight or I have seen him get hit on the head with the ball. Centre bounces or throw ins not so much issue as they come from shorter distances, would make a good umpire :lol
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Averaging 2.7 marks a game???????
We need Maric and Griffiths.
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
We gave up pick 32. So Lewis Taylor wasn't an option. :shh
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
Been playing injured since round 2
Been playing poo since 2007.
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Graham 3 year deal
Shaun Higgins 3 year deal
J McMahon 3 year deal
Grigg 3 year deal
We are lucky to have had them
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Graham 3 year deal
Shaun Higgins 3 year deal
J McMahon 3 year deal
Grigg 3 year deal
We are lucky to have had them
They're lucky to have had us.
Getting recruited by Richmond may be a booby prize for talented footballers but for hacks it's like winning the lottery.
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
Been playing injured since round 2
Would that explain why he stood still and let the hawks ruckman (I think it was Hale) peel off him and monster Titch in a marking contest on the members wing resulting in a turnover?
To Hampson's credit, he did stick his arm out to make it look like he was actually trying to do something but from my end all it looked like he was doing was reaching out for a bowl of Megan's Penne all'Arrabbiata.
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Hampson's leap in general play has disappeared.
He's ok in the ruck contest but I saw saw him grabbing some spectacular grabs during pre season.
What's happened?
That knee of his is patched up without a doubt.
Been playing injured since round 2
Would that explain why he stood still and let the hawks ruckman (I think it was Hale) peel off him and monster Titch in a marking contest on the members wing resulting in a turnover?
To Hampson's credit, he did stick his arm out to make it look like he was actually trying to do something but from my end all it looked like he was doing was reaching out for a bowl of Megan's Penne all'Arrabbiata.
:lol nah I reckon theres another reason for that and we both know what it is
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
got laughed at all pre season when i argued taking just 1 kid in the off season was not good enough and a mistake.
i was even ridiculed for daring to suggest with orren on the list we didnt need hampson and we should have chased the longer term Longer instead.
chappy and laidler anyone.
12 longer 20yo
25 dumont PICK WE GET IN THE LONGER TRADE
32 hewitt
50 marsh
64 templeton.
rookie darcy cameron. they may all fail but it was a far better process than the one we went down.
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Did I expect much? No. Did I expect more than what's been dished up? Yes. Silly me
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
got laughed at all pre season when i argued taking just 1 kid in the off season was not good enough and a mistake.
i was even ridiculed for daring to suggest with orren on the list we didnt need hampson and we should have chased the longer term Longer instead.
chappy and laidler anyone.
12 longer 20yo
25 dumont PICK WE GET IN THE LONGER TRADE
32 hewitt
50 marsh
64 templeton.
rookie darcy cameron. they may all fail but it was a far better process than the one we went down.
You forgot Matt Sully. Monster FB from Geelong's VFL side. Would have been an inspired pick...
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
got laughed at all pre season when i argued taking just 1 kid in the off season was not good enough and a mistake.
i was even ridiculed for daring to suggest with orren on the list we didnt need hampson and we should have chased the longer term Longer instead.
chappy and laidler anyone.
12 longer 20yo
25 dumont PICK WE GET IN THE LONGER TRADE
32 hewitt
50 marsh
64 templeton.
rookie darcy cameron. they may all fail but it was a far better process than the one we went down.
You forgot Matt Sully. Monster FB from Geelong's VFL side. Would have been an inspired pick...
yeah sully was another i liked waldhuter was another. just think we could have addressed needs mucch better than we did.
on hampson, purely as a ruckman in ruck contests i reckon hes been good gotta give him some credit there.
i keep on thinking we should play him as a third tall/ruck, we got him for this role to free up vickery and add another tall fwd option but the continued failure to impact as a marking player sort of has me think im dreaming.
to me he should be viewed as a back up to ivan and a reasonable backup, but we have a need to find a few long term ruck options.
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Tap work is pretty good but he offers nothing else. Cannot take a mark to save himself and has the presence of Ben Nason.
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LMAO @ presence of Ben Nason. The ultimate insult. He won't recover from this :lol
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I agree - comparisons to Hamspud are indeed the ultimate insult to Ben Nason.
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Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor :banghead
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson :banghead
got laughed at all pre season when i argued taking just 1 kid in the off season was not good enough and a mistake.
i was even ridiculed for daring to suggest with orren on the list we didnt need hampson and we should have chased the longer term Longer instead.
chappy and laidler anyone.
12 longer 20yo
25 dumont PICK WE GET IN THE LONGER TRADE
32 hewitt
50 marsh
64 templeton.
rookie darcy cameron. they may all fail but it was a far better process than the one we went down.
i think alot of people thought the one kid policy was silly
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I agree - comparisons to Hamspud are indeed the ultimate insult to Ben Nason.
Nah I can't have this Dioc. Hampson may be useless but Nason is the worst player to have played AFL footy. Including Cain Ackland
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I agree - comparisons to Hamspud are indeed the ultimate insult to Ben Nason.
Nah I can't have this Dioc. Hampson may be useless but Nason is the worst player to have played AFL footy. Including Cain Ackland
JON was the worst spud l ever seen ;D
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I agree - comparisons to Hamspud are indeed the ultimate insult to Ben Nason.
Nah I can't have this Dioc. Hampson may be useless but Nason is the worst player to have played AFL footy. Including Cain Ackland
JON was the worst spud l ever seen ;D
I'd forgotten about him until you brought him up. But Nason takes the cake
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I agree - comparisons to Hamspud are indeed the ultimate insult to Ben Nason.
Nah I can't have this Dioc. Hampson may be useless but Nason is the worst player to have played AFL footy. Including Cain Ackland
JON was the worst spud l ever seen ;D
I'd forgotten about him until you brought him up. But Nason takes the cake
l try to forget them all but some haunt me ;D
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His effort today was the biggest disgrace I have ever seen in my entire life. As soon as the ball hits the ground after a ball up he just stands/walks/watches. I almost peeed myself with laughter at him and Chaplin. Should have been watching Hampson more clearly this year and maybe I would have noticed it sooner. I knew he was poo but I didn't know his pooness was at this level of poo. Pick 28 wasn't it?
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Grigg, Hampson, Chaplin and afew others are not what we should be recruiting but the people working at Punt Road will tell you they are great recruits. Its a joke. I wouldnt be playing any of the 3 in the senior side.
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Thought he tried today but obviously lacks skill.
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Don't know what game you were at .Thought Hampson was in our best
Easily won in the big man department
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Don't know what game you were at .Thought Hampson was in our best
Easily won in the big man department
How many marks did he (Hampson) take? How many times did he block for his mids? Where the stuff was he? He dropped at least 5 marks.
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And here's a stat. Hampson was the only Richmond player not to lay 1 tackle. An absolute champion
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Don't know what game you were at .Thought Hampson was in our best
Easily won in the big man department
Does very little around the ground and doesnt impact enough as a big man in general play butthats just my opinion.
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And here's a stat. Hampson was the only Richmond player not to lay 1 tackle. An absolute champion
and Dustin Martin as well.
:cheers
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And here's a stat. Hampson was the only Richmond player not to lay 1 tackle. An absolute champion
and Dustin Martin as well.
:cheers
Yeah I just realised that. No surprise that he was the other. ;D
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I can't stand this guy.
USELESS Carlscum reject!!
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Stephenson would not have done any better.
At least Hampson made a spoil in the last quarter.
We always knew he'd give us nothing but a tap. At least he's doing that until we get Maric back.
Pity we didn't know Griff would be half decent as a ruck backup. Should have elevated Miles instead and used Hampson/Vickery/Griffiths in the ruck.
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Stephenson would not have done any better.
At least Hampson made a spoil in the last quarter.
We always knew he'd give us nothing but a tap. At least he's doing that until we get Maric back.
Pity we didn't know Griff would be half decent as a ruck backup. Should have elevated Miles instead and used Hampson/Vickery/Griffiths in the ruck.
Grigg and hamspud are both scum rejects and it makes it worse that they are poo because they are rejects of the scum cheats that I hate.
Get rid of them both.
Rubbish players & soft as cotton wool.
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
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Stephenson would not have done any better.
At least Hampson made a spoil in the last quarter.
We always knew he'd give us nothing but a tap. At least he's doing that until we get Maric back.
Pity we didn't know Griff would be half decent as a ruck backup. Should have elevated Miles instead and used Hampson/Vickery/Griffiths in the ruck.
You really believe that? Seriously mate open your eyes
He does nothing completely useless. Taps at the back straight to open space for their players run on
Worst trade since J McMahon
Ben Nason was a better footballer than this bloke
Don't need him provides nothing and one of the reasons we sit 2/5
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
Was wondering that myself, if we'd get away with that until Maric returns.
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Stephenson would not have done any better.
At least Hampson made a spoil in the last quarter.
We always knew he'd give us nothing but a tap. At least he's doing that until we get Maric back.
Pity we didn't know Griff would be half decent as a ruck backup. Should have elevated Miles instead and used Hampson/Vickery/Griffiths in the ruck.
You really believe that? Seriously mate open your eyes
He does nothing completely useless. Taps at the back straight to open space for their players run on
Worst trade since J McMahon
Ben Nason was a better footballer than this bloke
Don't need him provides nothing and one of the reasons we sit 2/5
You actually think Stephenson would have been superior to Hampson tonight? You must be blind as a bat. He's just as useless around the ground as Hampson.
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Stephenson would not have done any better.
At least Hampson made a spoil in the last quarter.
We always knew he'd give us nothing but a tap. At least he's doing that until we get Maric back.
Pity we didn't know Griff would be half decent as a ruck backup. Should have elevated Miles instead and used Hampson/Vickery/Griffiths in the ruck.
You really believe that? Seriously mate open your eyes
He does nothing completely useless. Taps at the back straight to open space for their players run on
Worst trade since J McMahon
Ben Nason was a better footballer than this bloke
Don't need him provides nothing and one of the reasons we sit 2/5
You actually think Stephenson would have been superior to Hampson tonight? You must be blind as a bat. He's just as useless around the ground as Hampson.
Big O would have struggled too but when the ball hits the deck he battles on and fights for his teammates. Hampson seemed to think the job was done after winning/losing a tap.
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I actually thought he was pretty good today. Think he did a lot of good work at the contest and saw him win it from the deck and get it out to our smalls 4-5 times in the second half. Still a bit of a spud tbh but no complaints today
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
Stats have him for a mark today, though I cannot recall it.
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
Stats have him for a mark today, though I cannot recall it.
I remember him taking one. I nearly spat out my coffee!
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
Stats have him for a mark today, though I cannot recall it.
He must have grabbed it out of the ruck and the stats guy made an error.
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
Stats have him for a mark today, though I cannot recall it.
I remember him taking one. I nearly spat out my coffee!
When?
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Would be nice he could take a mark, just one mark a game.
Ruck work isn't the issue
Stats have him for a mark today, though I cannot recall it.
I remember him taking one. I nearly spat out my coffee!
When?
It was early in the game. Not sure exactly which quarter......
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lmao@ a legit discussion trying to decipher when said player actually took his one and only mark ;D
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I imagine he played on immediately due to being completely unfamiliar with the mark/free kick system.
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lmao@ a legit discussion trying to decipher when said player actually took his one and only mark ;D
:lol
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
lets do what has already failed as poor as hampson has been id have him in the ruck over vickery every day of the week. talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
what stats defines a good ruckman.
h/o its the one area hampson has been very good.
tkls hes just not laying em.
1% just too few this stat includes spoils blocks shepherds etc tap ons .
c/mks geez he isnt marking the ball let alone taking contested marks.
disposals hes hardly touching it.
this has been the case all yr, yeah he gives a good contest in the ruck but thats it full stop. time to send him back to the ressies to work on these things and bring in the big o he can do no worse and will compete at all times.
god help us when ivan comes back and we plonk hampson fwd most of the games. hoping he can take a grab or two.its scary to think this is what we got him for.
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
lets do what has already failed as poor as hampson has been id have him in the ruck over vickery every day of the week. talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
When was Vicks our number 1 ruck?
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Geelong mids all voted him BOG.
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My suggestion until Maric is back is play Vicks in the ruck,and griff at CHF..and banish hampson
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Here here Gig
He should never play again
Big O, Vicks and Graham poo on him as a ruckman
Claw watch his tap outs yesterday, see where they landed
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Claw watch his tap outs yesterday, see where they landed
Although I understand your point Angus, I reckon our mids need to be a bit smarter with how they set up at times. By now they should have some sort of clue as to how this bloke taps the ball. they way they set up at times you'd think it's the very first time they've worked together
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
lets do what has already failed as poor as hampson has been id have him in the ruck over vickery every day of the week. talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
When was Vicks our number 1 ruck?
Claw NFI
When maric Griff Tyrone all fit
Hampson should be no where near senior team
Even now - should be Tyrone and griff
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I dont know whose decision it was to hand Carlton pick 32 for this bloke but seriously they must have been on the pee at Punt Road when they were making that decision. We could have had Robertson or one or two others instead.
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I dont know whose decision it was to hand Carlton pick 32 for this bloke but seriously they must have been on the pee at Punt Road when they were making that decision. We could have had Robertson or one or two others instead.
I understand that people can't help looking back but I'm afraid it doesn't help matters.
We need to plan properly for the future. That starts with selection against Melbourne. Miles must come in and so too Griff.
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These days with limited interchange a ruckman needs to be able to fulfill an around the ground role in order to take some of the load off other players. Hampson simply doesn't offer this so is pretty much a liability should there be a period of open play where no ruck contests are required. This is why Maric has been Yessuch a huge loss for the start of the season.
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We are gonna be so good when this bloke is out of the side and Maric and Griffith share ruck duties
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Good in the ruck contest, pretty poor around the ground.
Overall I thought he was a reasonable contributor yesterday. Neither good nor bad, just mediochre.
His marking is a concern which rules him out playing forward when Ivvy returns to full match fitness (assuming he does..).
If that eventuates it's back to the twos for Shaun with Maric sharing the duties with Griff/Vickery.
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Snip! The thread topic is about Shaun Hampson.
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The problem with Hampson is no motivation to win. When we lose he ends up going home and being consoled by supreme hotness.
We need to replace Megan with a fish wife STAT!! If we can pull this off, his only joy will come from winning footy games and having celebratory drinks with the lads.
Brad Miller also suffered from this problem.
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SPUD.
Ex Carlscum cheat.
He & Grigg can go and get stuffed.
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SPUD.
Ex Carlscum cheat.
He & Grigg can go and get stuffed.
Funny. Iwas thinking of asking the mods if we can change this title to "Re: Shaun Hampson Officially a Spud" :lol
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
lets do what has already failed as poor as hampson has been id have him in the ruck over vickery every day of the week. talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
When was Vicks our number 1 ruck?
Claw NFI
When maric Griff Tyrone all fit
Hampson should be no where near senior team
Even now - should be Tyrone and griff
lol vickery plays one ordinary game instead of totally stinking it up and hes back. i cant wait to see the reactions of people here when he actually plays a decent big mans game or even a decent game. we sure love our spuds.
mate id play griffiths in the ruck before that pea heart vickery. you think hampsons a poor riuckman well compared to vickery in the role hes aaron sandilands.
if the club had brains and guts it would be shopping vickery off to anyone who is silly enough to give up a decent pick for him. if it had any brains it would also be scouting around for a replacement on hampson as well.
if vickery could play ruck do you really think they would have gone and got hampson. ffs even the nuffers at the club can see it.
if your planning on building a side around either player you are deluded.
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Play Vicks in the ruck and Griff as second ruck.
lets do what has already failed as poor as hampson has been id have him in the ruck over vickery every day of the week. talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
When was Vicks our number 1 ruck?
Claw NFI
When maric Griff Tyrone all fit
Hampson should be no where near senior team
Even now - should be Tyrone and griff
lol vickery plays one ordinary game instead of totally stinking it up and hes back. i cant wait to see the reactions of people here when he actually plays a decent big mans game or even a decent game. we sure love our spuds.
mate id play griffiths in the ruck before that pea heart vickery. you think hampsons a poor riuckman well compared to vickery in the role hes aaron sandilands.
if the club had brains and guts it would be shopping vickery off to anyone who is silly enough to give up a decent pick for him. if it had any brains it would also be scouting around for a replacement on hampson as well.
if vickery could play ruck do you really think they would have gone and got hampson. ffs even the nuffers at the club can see it.
if your planning on building a side around either player you are deluded.
I agree with this.
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if the club had brains and guts it would be shopping vickery off to anyone who is silly enough to give up a decent pick for him. if it had any brains it would also be scouting around for a replacement on hampson as well.
if the club had brains, we would have traded out Vickery last year when he had some perceived value. They wouldn't have traded Hampson in either.
As bad as the big O is, I could put up with him rucking with Griffiths until we got Maric back and developed another Ruckman or traded in for a decent one if we had used Hampson's pick on a decent player and got someone useful for Vickery. Need to build the list with quality, not fill it with junk.
Our current midfielders can't effectively clear or use the ball even if the ball is tapped into their hands which reduces Hampson's value further. They just fumble it and then look for a quick 5m backward kick or handball and turn it over. We have done nothing to build quality where we need it. The list looks very working class, without the work ethic or grunt run by a coach who exploits its weaknesses and ignores its strengths.
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When Vickery started up forward I want to jump off a cliff! He was deplorable. But when the decision was made to throw him into the ruck, he actually got more involved in proceedings. Maybe because he had no choice. Thinking outside the square, why don't we change his role to a defensive ruckman? Or let him take Chappy's Role and "Bring Back the Griff!!"
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I agree with you Tiga but then I remember what a gutless lazy player Vickery is and think the reserves would suit him better.
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Vickery in the backline? Pass. If you think his laziness, poor positioning & dropped marks are costing us now....
Regardless of what claw says it was a massive mistake to just give up on him as a ruckman -Vickery's almost a better mid than he is a KPP - people need to start viewing ruckmen as midfielders as much as they are KPP's, particularly nowadays. Who would you rather in the midfield, Hamspud, Stephenson or Vickery?
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Vickery in the backline? Pass. If you think his laziness, poor positioning & dropped marks are costing us now....
Regardless of what claw says it was a massive mistake to just give up on him as a ruckman -Vickery's almost a better mid than he is a KPP - people need to start viewing ruckmen as midfielders as much as they are KPP's, particularly nowadays. Who would you rather in the midfield, Hamspud, Stephenson or Vickery?
Is there another option?
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Vickery in the backline? Pass. If you think his laziness, poor positioning & dropped marks are costing us now....
Regardless of what claw says it was a massive mistake to just give up on him as a ruckman -Vickery's almost a better mid than he is a KPP - people need to start viewing ruckmen as midfielders as much as they are KPP's, particularly nowadays. Who would you rather in the midfield, Hamspud, Stephenson or Vickery?
Is there another option?
Yes but in 2-3 weeks he'll still be another 2-3 weeks away from being 2-3 weeks away.
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When Vickery started up forward I want to jump off a cliff! He was deplorable. But when the decision was made to throw him into the ruck, he actually got more involved in proceedings. Maybe because he had no choice. Thinking outside the square, why don't we change his role to a defensive ruckman? Or let him take Chappy's Role and "Bring Back the Griff!!"
Regardless of what most say, im with dioc, i actually think he has the makings of a very accomplished ruckman. His body should be close to mature enough to spend a lot more time there now. I wouldn't be adverse to dropping Hampson and playing Vickery in the ruck 60-70% with Griff chopping out until Maric gets back. Both are mobile and we get to see what a mature Vickery brings to the table in the ruck.
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Yep, I'm on board with this as well. Both young, developing Ruckman.
Why should a 27 yo who has plateaued get preference to young, developing players who haven't peaked?
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Hampson - 16% winning hitouts to advantage in the defensive midfield. Sandilands is No.1 pretty much over the rest of the park.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-09/the-inquirer-are-ruckmen-valuable
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Derickx > Hamspud
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Megan Gale and partner Shaun Hampson welcome baby boy.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/australian-model-megan-gale-and-partner-shaun-hampson-welcome-baby-boy/story-e6frfmq9-1226917277515
:clapping
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My only question is...
Is it worth it trying to get Shaun to 100 games?
:lol
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My only question is...
Is it worth it trying to get Shaun to 100 games?
:lol
The baby will be a model
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:highclap
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Hampson - 16% winning hitouts to advantage in the defensive midfield. Sandilands is No.1 pretty much over the rest of the park.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-09/the-inquirer-are-ruckmen-valuable
The most interesting and telling part of this for me was down near the bottom - our best ruck/mid combination. It was Maric to Jackson. Both have been injured this year and Maric not even seen on the park. With Cotchin often the focus for the opposition around stoppages, MAric was able to target Jackson and win an easy clearance. Hampson hasn't the same foot smarts as the big mullet has imo.
I remember we had a discussion on this forum about who was our most important player with most people agreeing that Cotchin was more important than Maric. Some may change their minds now......
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They called the tacker ...wait for it............
River ... seriously his name is River
:help :facepalm
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Like River Phoenix
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Like River Phoenix
except no Phoenix
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Like River Phoenix
except no Phoenix
River Hampsud
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
Apparently it's James' wish.
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Really wow that's just great
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If your patents name you river you know you'll be up skata creek with that one.
Stifflers's mum got that all wrong. :facepalm
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
:clapping
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
:lol
Would have been his first one for the year!
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:lol
Gotta say on form thus far (and yep its still early) but on exposed form I would have preferred to keep Derrickx and our 2nd round pick and taken a prospect. I hope im wrong but from what ive seen, hampson wont offer us much
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:lol
Gotta say on form thus far (and yep its still early) but on exposed form I would have preferred to keep Derrickx and our 2nd round pick and taken a prospect. I hope im wrong but from what ive seen, hampson wont offer us much
Would have preferred to delist Derickx and just pass on pick 32. :lol
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
:lol
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
Best post ever :lol :bow
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
:rollin
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He cannot be trusted to hold the baby...
:lol
lucky they didn't call him "Mark". ;D
Yesss Big Man :clapping
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my dear god what have we done here
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my dear god what have we done here
He did take one mark in front of me today. I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming.
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a hole lot of horse s h i t
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Thought Hammer was pretty good today
;) :thumbsup
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Yeah played really well. Worked hard. Need that every week
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Thought Hammer was pretty good today
;) :thumbsup
yep. Best game for the club and against a quality opponent too.
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Probably the best game of his entire career.....can't wait for his next good one -which if we go by his averages should be about round 17, next year.
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Gee Whizz, 4 marks today, takes the yearly total to 11...
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Y24P2UTqzM/UHzSLO-sNeI/AAAAAAAAARA/-WIklWvQADE/s1600/potato-recipes.jpg)
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Gee Hampson played well, poor old mummy , looked like he d be more at home with Tutankhamen than first ruck :lol
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played a excellent running big man game. was all over the ground & took mummy to the cleaners. :thumbsup for this round
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Best game for the club but for me the jury is still out.
Need more of this though.
Not one week wonder stuff.
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:thumbsup
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Best game for the club but for me the jury is still out.
Need more of this though.
Not one week wonder stuff.
Agree
As I just posted in the Shane Edwards thread lets not get carried away GWS were non competitive yesterday
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Don't check out the grigg thread :facepalm
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Richmond's Shaun Hampson joins Chrisso & McGuane for a chat, after the Tigers' massive win over GWS. Shaun played a key role in the much needed win for the club.
AUDIO: https://soundcloud.com/rsn-racing/shaun-hampson-richmond-tigers-afl
* Was that (GWS match) your best game?
I think by far. It’s the most I’ve contributed to a Tiger win so I was pretty happy. The Club put it on me before the game. They wanted a big one out of me because, obviously, Mumford is one of the best ruckmen in the competition. But, at the same time, big Mummy hadn’t played for six weeks so I didn’t get Mummy at his best. It was probably lucky for me.
* What role will you have when Maric returns?
Through my whole career, I’ve been thrown forward, I’ve been thrown ruck and I’ve had the 50-50 role. At the end of the day, I’ll do whatever the team needs me to do and try to do it to the best of my ability. I do like playing in the ruck and being the No.1 go-to guy. But the Tigers got me to play that ruck-forward role and I haven’t had a chance to do that this year. I’m looking forward to doing that later in the year.
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Tard stand up when it counts
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Nearly choked on my bourbon when he took a mark...... :bow
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But, at the same time, big Mummy hadn’t played for six weeks so I didn’t get Mummy at his best. It was probably lucky for me.
The kids too nice
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Want to see him and Maric together starting this week.
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(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/05/05/1226906/281896-de73d9c6-d408-11e3-b5be-ec06717bccf7.jpg)
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What a disgrace it is he was ever recruited.
Everyone involved in the entire club should be sacked.
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We always knew Hampson was no forward. He's a tap ruckman and that's it. He can't play that ruck/fwd role. If Maric is in then you can't play Hampson as there's no role he can play. He can't mark and he can't kick for goal.
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He literally cannot do anything but tap.
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But we have to play him to show the footy world its another one we got right
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Where is Al? Was celebrating this trade because 2nd round picks have a low success rate. What pick was Tom Langdon, 60 what?
We are run by drug addicts. Traded a 2nd round pick for this wacko.
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Hopeless
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Tom Derickx on his own is better than this guy, let alone a 2nd round pick.
You've done it again Richmond :shh
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Tom Derickx on his own is better than this guy, let alone a 2nd round pick.
You've done it again Richmond :shh
What where they smoking down there when they made this decision? Must have been some pretty strong stuff!
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He literally cannot do anything but tap.
Rubbish.
He does a fine job taking a spot from somebody that may be able to play footy.
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Do not ever let this clown play again.......play a kid :wallywink
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Can you blokes stop slagging the model shagger. He is one of Blairs boys and Blairs boys are superdooper state of the art players who will take Richmond to its next flag lol. Hampster is another Hartley success story. Just like the Greek Economy. ;D
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Can you blokes stop slagging the model shagger. He is one of Blairs boys and Blairs boys are superdooper state of the art players who will take Richmond to its next flag lol. Hampster is another Hartley success story. Just like the Greek Economy. ;D
:clapping Should not be played but with all the talk from the coaches over the summer saying "cant wait to have Hampson and Maric playing in the same team" he was always going to play. He cant mark the ball or run so why is he playing? Well done Dimma :clapping
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:banghead :banghead
Forgot how bad his set shot for goals were until the 3rd qtr
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Looking forward to going back on old posts by some of you suggesting how hood he would me
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:banghead :banghead
Forgot how bad his set shot for goals were until the 3rd qtr
It was the second for me WP, when he kicked out on the full from 45 but hey the penny drops soon enough. ;D
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:banghead :banghead
Forgot how bad his set shot for goals were until the 3rd qtr
It was the second for me WP, when he licked out on the full from 45 but hey the penny drops soon enough. ;D
Missed that one, probably having a coughing fit at the time
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Said it from the very start...FMD as long as this c is on the list going no where :banghead
Not the sole culprit but the disease has spread
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Bring back vickery, there I said it this guy is sooooo bad
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Bourtha Blair Hartley's Bargain Basement Bozo's.
Untouchable.
Add Grigg, Houli, Petterd, Chaplin, Thomas to that list.
Deplorable, Digusting, Disgraceful, Disappointing, Dispicable, Disorientating, Dysfunctional = Disaster.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop.
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Slower than John Candy
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Some say he is playing injured,but if he isn't then he is one one of the worst footballers I have seen in the yellow and black
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I wouldn't call his presence on the field playing. Or anything resembling an AFL player playing footy injured or not injured. Terrible waste of pick 28.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and still counting. Plop Plop Plop
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Derickx 5.0
Hamspud 0.2
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Worst ever RFC player. Overtaken Grigg :clapping
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Why didn't we get Docherty ?
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Great kick for goal by the big Spud
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ruckwork is once again great
but ruckman who cant mark, kick, handball = spud. He is just a shocker
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If he is worth a pick 28 then I'm a pick 1 at 39 years of age. :thumbsup
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Great kick for goal by the big Spud
If you want someone kicking for your life....you want big Shaun .Safe as houses.
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He is simply a very poor player. Looks the part at least :help
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If you were an opposition defender you'd almost make a point of giving away a free kick to him anywhere inside the 50 just to get the ball back.
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Disgusting deal by the List Manager.
Where are the idiots who applauded this trade. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
Would take any pick over 60 let alone 30 for Hampson..
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. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
Is what lazy, useless list managers say.
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but he has megan, he does dot care
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Can you blokes please stop knocking Blair Hartley please. He is the greatest List Manager in the whole wide world. Next trade period we getting a pigmy from somewhere in Africa to add some speed around the packs. Stop Knocking Hartley, the blokes a legend ;D :lol
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Hardwick also rejected the suggestion that forward-ruckman Shaun Hampson “wasn’t great today’’. Hampson had a game-low five disposals to go with his 19 hit-outs.
“I thought he was OK,’’ Hardwick said. “He competed really hard. It’s probably up to me to sum up his performance, I’ll do that.’’
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-blames-silly-mistakes-and-skill-errors-for-20point-loss-to-fremantle-at-mcg/story-fndv8t7m-1226954485976)
:huh3
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F me he is stuffing woeful
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Woeful. Not up to Afl standard. Delist
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The problem is that Hardwick can't be overly critical so he would pretty much have to have zero possessions before he might be slightly critical. He knows we picked a dud and is now stuck with him. Think generally the recruiters need to look outside the square, this method of recruiting safe all round performers will not get you to finals, a thorough look at our recruiting methods needs to take place in the off season, we are travelling on the road to nowhere so something needs to be done.
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is he worse than Richard lounder?....I think so
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Hardwick also rejected the suggestion that forward-ruckman Shaun Hampson “wasn’t great today’’. Hampson had a game-low five disposals to go with his 19 hit-outs.
“I thought he was OK,’’ Hardwick said. “He competed really hard. It’s probably up to me to sum up his performance, I’ll do that.’’
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-blames-silly-mistakes-and-skill-errors-for-20point-loss-to-fremantle-at-mcg/story-fndv8t7m-1226954485976)
:huh3
Damien, I think the "exciting prospect of having big Ivan and Hampson as ruck/resting forward combo" that was touted pre-season isn't in very exciting at all.
TBBH it just doesn't work because Hampson rarely marks, rarely if ever busts open packs and can't kick a point let alone a goal to save himself throw his ruck work of hitting to advantage of the opposition and it's not very good. So if it's OK by you as paid up member of this footy club, you know the one you keep calling "our footy club" I think it is more than fair and reasonable for me and others to "sum up his performance"
Thanks ::)
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Hardwick also rejected the suggestion that forward-ruckman Shaun Hampson “wasn’t great today’’. Hampson had a game-low five disposals to go with his 19 hit-outs.
“I thought he was OK,’’ Hardwick said. “He competed really hard. It’s probably up to me to sum up his performance, I’ll do that.’’
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-blames-silly-mistakes-and-skill-errors-for-20point-loss-to-fremantle-at-mcg/story-fndv8t7m-1226954485976)
:huh3
what a stuffing disgrace of a coach.
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Dimma..don't defend the playing group as not being soft ,when we all can plainly see they are marshmellows.
And if you are going to sum up Hampsons performance then bloody well sum it up,to us who were there before you got here and who will be here long after you leave
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If he is worth a pick 28 then I'm a pick 1 at 39 years of age. :thumbsup
but 2nd and 3 rd rounders arent worth two bob hhhaaarrrggghhhh.no point participating in the draft after the 1st round. :o
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is he worse than Richard lounder?....I think so
Comfortably, Lounder actually had talent.....he just preferred the grog, the cigs & a good feed to football & fitness. Hamspud has no such excuse.
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3 year contract looking very wobbly. :(
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is he worse than Richard lounder?....I think so
Comfortably, Lounder actually had talent.....he just preferred the grog, the cigs & a good feed to football & fitness. Hamspud has no such excuse.
When I see Hampspud lean on the goalposts as the ball is coming in then I'll say that his imitating of a footballer has gone too far. Nobody leans on a goalpost like Richard Lounder. ;D
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is he worse than Richard lounder?....I think so
Comfortably, Lounder actually had talent.....he just preferred the grog, the cigs & a good feed to football & fitness. Hamspud has no such excuse.
When I see Hampspud lean on the goalposts as the ball is coming in then I'll say that his imitating of a footballer has gone too far. Nobody leans on a goalpost like Richard Lounder. ;D
At least Dick Lounder kicked some goals on his debut, this bloke Hampson is complete waste of space. Well done Blair Hartley - another resounding success for you - :lol
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is he worse than Richard lounder?....I think so
Comfortably, Lounder actually had talent.....he just preferred the grog, the cigs & a good feed to football & fitness. Hamspud has no such excuse.
When I see Hampspud lean on the goalposts as the ball is coming in then I'll say that his imitating of a footballer has gone too far. Nobody leans on a goalpost like Richard Lounder. ;D
At least Dick Lounder kicked some goals on his debut, this bloke Hampson is complete waste of space. Well done Blair Hartley - another resounding success for you - :lol
Kicked four against North, Greek Easter Sunday 1989. Remember it well we won by 6 goals. :thumbsup
Last time I can honestly say we beat North before they have simply owned us on field. The next time we played them was in 1990 on a Friday night when we got slaughtered by 141 points and we have never looked back since against this abhorrent mob. :help
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An absolute joke.
Have seen Auskickers with better football skills.
If only he played for someone else. :-[
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An absolute joke.
Have seen Auskickers with better football skills.
If only he played for someone else. :-[
He did....
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An absolute joke.
Have seen Auskickers with better football skills.
If only he played for someone else. :-[
He did....
they all did....
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Where are the idiots who applauded this trade. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
I did make that point but I never applauded the trade so I don't think that was directed at me
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So bad I feel for the guy.
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Aside from that early goal :o, it's like playing with only 17 when he's on the field. A big bloke who can't take a mark let alone a contested one and who falls over.
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Potato
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Where are the idiots who applauded this trade. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
I did make that point but I never applauded the trade so I don't think that was directed at me
Wasn't directed at you. Won't name one poster who was all for the trade and argued about it for days.
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Where are the idiots who applauded this trade. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
I did make that point but I never applauded the trade so I don't think that was directed at me
Wasn't directed at you. Won't name one poster who was all for the trade and argued about it for days.
OK well you made it plural so you gave the impression there was more than one, please be careful in the future
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The late Allan Jeans had a saying about sausages.
Here's one for Hampspud.
You can try him in the ruck
Or even around the ground
Try plonking him at FF
Or even a kick behind the play
But he's still and always will be a Spud
Memo to the club next time we have an on field need how about the club keeping its cards close to its chest and not advertise what it needs and thus spending overs on spuds or lemons. :help
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Aside from that early goal :o, it's like playing with only 17 when he's on the field. A big bloke who can't take a mark let alone a contested one and who falls over.
He is as poor as it gets. It was concerning coming into the game with only one key forward. A.Edwards does nothing at all and Hampson is worse :P
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Tie him & Shedwards together & drop them in Port Philip bay ;D
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An absolute joke.
Have seen Auskickers with better football skills.
If only he played for someone else. :-[
He did....
Lets all send letters of thanks to that Doyen of recruiting at Punt Road Blair Hartley. Well done son, another superstar you brought to the club right here :lol
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Where are the idiots who applauded this trade. 'Only a small % of picks post 30 are successful'....
I did make that point but I never applauded the trade so I don't think that was directed at me
Wasn't directed at you. Won't name one poster who was all for the trade and argued about it for days.
I gather you are talking about me, but dont have the balls to say so. if so, show show me where i said the trade was good? that Hampson would actually be a good pick up?
I did show evidence to back up my view that second round picks have a surprising low success rate and that after the first round there is not a great deal of difference in the success rate of the picks. I don't recall you producing any evidence to counter that, then or now, nor do I expect you to.
I also said that if the trade was successful no one would remember or care what we gave up, but if it fails then it is a fail, regardless of what pick you gave up. A dud is a dud. what pick you give up does not change that.
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Al, let's not go in circles. Nothing about having the balls to call someone out, but what's the point? We stuffed up and shouldn't have done it.
Hampson trade was always going to be a shocker. You argued we needed him to fill a void. But what's the point.
If you want evidence that post round 2 picks are worth holding. Ask Collingwood how Tom Langdon is going. Think everyone would have rathered rolling a dice on a kid than Hampson.
Pick 2 is better than any Rookie Pick. Anthony Miles is going OK.
It's as bad as the McMahon trade.
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Al al al the master of talking through his date
Funny not sure who brought it up but was about to post the same thing about the credibility of al
Love the part where u said "if the trade was successful" do you actually watch sport cause if you did you would know this trade had zero chance of being successful. Zero zilch nada.
Wake up pal you need to start watching more games
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Love the part where u said "if the trade was successful" do you actually watch sport cause if you did you would know this trade had zero chance of being successful. Zero zilch nada.
Some people said that about Maric ::)
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Stop diverting pal that al needs to acknowledge he was wrong again which is becoming a concerning trend for the old fella
But just on that Maric look where that has got us too
Third last pal and still haven't won a final. All good though as we made one only to lose to 9th.
Monkeyball is for losers and that's what our club is at the minute
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lets all calm down please. back on topic
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Al, let's not go in circles. Nothing about having the balls to call someone out, but what's the point? We stuffed up and shouldn't have done it.
Hampson trade was always going to be a shocker. You argued we needed him to fill a void. But what's the point.
If you want evidence that post round 2 picks are worth holding. Ask Collingwood how Tom Langdon is going. Think everyone would have rathered rolling a dice on a kid than Hampson.
Pick 2 is better than any Rookie Pick. Anthony Miles is going OK.
It's as bad as the McMahon trade.
yes i may have argued we needed to fill a void, (surely you are not saying we didnt have that need) but i never ever argued that hampson was the one to do so. I had no opinion on him one way or the other as i had not seen him play, which i said at the time.
as i said in my previous post, and at the time, if you trade in a dud, you trade in a dud. If we had given up pick 80, it wouldnt have changed a thing,he is still a spud and the trade was a mistake. Not because of what we gave up for him, but because we got him at all - full stop.
now when someone says, for instance that certain draft picks have a low percentage of coming good, how does naming one of the few prove otherwise? If the claim had been that none of those drafts pick come good, yeah naming one person would be a valid argument, but what you have done is like pointing out one win on the pokies and claiming that is a good way to make money.
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Stop diverting pal that al needs to acknowledge he was wrong again which is becoming a concerning trend for the old fella
But just on that Maric look where that has got us too
Third last pal and still haven't won a final. All good though as we made one only to lose to 9th.
Monkeyball is for losers and that's what our club is at the minute
For someone that once questiones someone elses education, you clearly have the comprehension skills off a gnat.
You are either incapable of, or refuse to understand the points i was/am trying to make.
but as usual with you, once you see something that you think you may even remotely disagree with, the red haze clouds your narrow mind and the test pattern kick in.
As for money ball being for losers, I'm sure Paul roos and his premiership sides would disagree with you, but hey you worked out you can call it Monkeyball, and that ever so humorous play on words surely makes up for any lack of knowledge you have on the matter or ability to think logically or rationally.
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Al I havent changed my opinion on the 2 main points here:
1: We should never have drafted in Hampson, for many reasons, ranging from he wasn't good enough for any trade whether it was pick 30 or 80 or even on a free. He wasn't good enough to be on our list if we wanted to go for top 4. If we were GWS and needed to fill a ruckman void, then sure. Also for the fact that with Hampson on the list he costs $$ and takes away experience from a younger player.
I think we both agree on that, although I recall at the time you were happy with the trade cause there was no other alternative. Since the trade McEvoy went to Hawthorn for a not to different pick plus Shane Savage. If we had any guts we could have easily have got McEvoy who is someone we should have aimed at if we wanted to go for top 4.
2: We shouldn't be throwing away 2nd round draft picks for gambles regardless of the % rate of success. Not all first round draft picks are successful, we have a cupboard full of them. Hows Jack Watts going as pick 1? Lachlan Hansen as pick 3? Not exactly AFL elite. Should we trade away first rounders as well cause they are not a sure bet? Where is the line that you draw for trading picks for players? Its a hard one to be so specific but you can judge it on each individual case. Pick 32 was what we gave up for Hampson, that was simply overs.
Is Pick 32 a sure bet, no, is pick 10, not really but close. No point arguing that (x) pick is less or more likely to be worth it unless you compare to the alternative. Pick 32 may not have been guaranteed a successful player but it had a chance. Shaun Hampson is a chance to turn into a decent player but not a very good chance. Bout the same chance as Tom Derickx. Why throw away pick 32 for a sideways move?
Just have to look at his work around the ground, his failed marks and his kicking for goal to see that SURELY the 32nd best kid in the draft had a better chance at making AFL level than this moose. Another shocker by RFC and Hartleys Heroes.
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Money ball is definitely not a new concept .the most successful era of recent times included many players recruited by us who were struggling elsewhere.Robert Macghie,wayne walsh,paul sproule,mick malthouse,peter welsh.and also ones that were duds.Its hit and miss like most things
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Al I havent changed my opinion on the 2 main points here:
1: We should never have drafted in Hampson, for many reasons, ranging from he wasn't good enough for any trade whether it was pick 30 or 80 or even on a free. He wasn't good enough to be on our list if we wanted to go for top 4. If we were GWS and needed to fill a ruckman void, then sure. Also for the fact that with Hampson on the list he costs $$ and takes away experience from a younger player.
I think we both agree on that, although I recall at the time you were happy with the trade cause there was no other alternative. Since the trade McEvoy went to Hawthorn for a not to different pick plus Shane Savage. If we had any guts we could have easily have got McEvoy who is someone we should have aimed at if we wanted to go for top 4.
2: We shouldn't be throwing away 2nd round draft picks for gambles regardless of the % rate of success. Not all first round draft picks are successful, we have a cupboard full of them. Hows Jack Watts going as pick 1? Lachlan Hansen as pick 3? Not exactly AFL elite. Should we trade away first rounders as well cause they are not a sure bet? Where is the line that you draw for trading picks for players? Its a hard one to be so specific but you can judge it on each individual case. Pick 32 was what we gave up for Hampson, that was simply overs.
Is Pick 32 a sure bet, no, is pick 10, not really but close. No point arguing that (x) pick is less or more likely to be worth it unless you compare to the alternative. Pick 32 may not have been guaranteed a successful player but it had a chance. Shaun Hampson is a chance to turn into a decent player but not a very good chance. Bout the same chance as Tom Derickx. Why throw away pick 32 for a sideways move?
Just have to look at his work around the ground, his failed marks and his kicking for goal to see that SURELY the 32nd best kid in the draft had a better chance at making AFL level than this moose. Another shocker by RFC and Hartleys Heroes.
Too much to read, please consider your audience and abbreviate your posts
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OI you saying we have a short attention span...... :thumbsup
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OI you saying we have a short attention span...... :thumbsup
Definitely
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Nuffers doing a good job on here
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ive gotta ask what other clubs model are we following this yr.
cant be geelongs. they think 2nd and 3rd round picks form the nucleus of dynastys.
what do the following have in common apart from being premiership players.
j hunt, d milburn, p chapman, c enright, d wojinski, m scarlett, s johnson, c ling, t lonergan, t hawkins, t west, m duncan, a christensen, g ablett, t harley throw in m stokes a 4th rounder at pick 61.
they are all 2nd or 3rd round nd picks. with stokes a 4th rounder and harley was taken from port by trading pick 37.
some other likely looking types taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds who havent played in a premiership are horlin-smith, jansen, joel hamling, shane kersten, taylor hunt, jake koladjashnij,lincoln mccarthy, steve motlop, jordan murdoch, dawson simpson, nathan vardy, jordan schroder,
i think anyone who thinks 2nd and 3rd round picks have no value go talk to the boys down at the cattery.
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ive gotta ask what other clubs model are we following this yr.
cant be geelongs. they think 2nd and 3rd round picks form the nucleus of dynastys.
what do the following have in common apart from being premiership players.
j hunt, d milburn, p chapman, c enright, d wojinski, m scarlett, s johnson, c ling, t lonergan, t hawkins, t west, m duncan, a christensen, g ablett, t harley throw in m stokes a 4th rounder at pick 61.
they are all 2nd or 3rd round nd picks. with stokes a 4th rounder and harley was taken from port by trading pick 37.
some other likely looking types taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds who havent played in a premiership are horlin-smith, jansen, joel hamling, shane kersten, taylor hunt, jake koladjashnij,lincoln mccarthy, steve motlop, jordan murdoch, dawson simpson, nathan vardy, jordan schroder,
i think anyone who thinks 2nd and 3rd round picks have no value go talk to the boys down at the cattery.
Exactly right Claw. My point exactly.
You'd take any of those players ahead of Hampson any day of the week.
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Claw and Pope well said lads couldn't agree more, 2 of the most sensible posters going around. Thrown in Lake, Langdon and some of freos belters they have found as well
Al I hope your reading, you could do with a common sense approach to some of your outlandish posts of late.
#justsaying
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really?
care to elaborate and show which of my so called outlandish statements you refer to and which parts directly counter them? On a point by point basis so the debate doesn't get all over the place like a mad woman's poo would be good
seriously, here's the big chance you have so desperately been awaiting all these years.
put it all together and show the world.
can you put me in my place with something more than a superficial irrational simpleton rant?
#willingtobetyoucant
#inacapableofconstructingsolidarguments
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He'll pick a few from the same draft but then ignore the other 50 that didn't make it
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Blair is right he has a great vertical leap.
It's just a shame he has Cement Hands.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQssvVPYNPfelczrBbwBo42u2rqrKvasWALt4ezoDj75N-8dOqmFg)
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Could we just give this guy some gloves so maybe just maybe the ball sticks to his hands?
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coupled with the Pearl Harbour game plan, Hampo would be in his element!
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in going back some pages i have some sympathy for als position.
yes we had to find a mature ruckman to help maric. i was one who argued pretty loudly, why hampson with his 7 yr record????? hampson with the obvious deficiencies that we were expecting to fix.
al is right when he says we had to target a mature ruckman.
it doesnt matter where we take players nd, psd , f/a, trade, rookie draft, if you take duds you will go nowhere.
it doesnt matter what the pick in the nd is, if you use it poorly it is worthless. so yes i have some sympathy for what al is trying to say.
the thing is for me anyway and i could be wrong and al could be right, but based on performance, based on strengths, based on age and maturity, based on weaknesses, and based on other things what pick you give up for a player is important.
just for arguments sake lets say 100 kids get taken and only 60 become decent players, common sense says with all the information available to us it is better have a pick in the top 60 rather than later. and its this simple point that gets lost in this sort of debate. so when we talk pick 32 for a 26yo unproven player with many deficiencies with a very poor performance record id say it is very important to weigh up your options and rate the value of what your giving up.
imo and that is all it is, but based on the available information shaun hampson was never ever worth giving up a second round pick for. despite the fact we had a need of sorts to take a player of his type.
imo in getting hampson we further blundered by keeping big o and not using his rookie spot on a junior ruckman.if hampson was the answer there was no need for orren to be taking up a spot on our list.
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mumford
mcevoy
longer
all changed hands
we got hampson
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How on gods green earth did they not get mummy
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After watching Longer today the Hampson deal looks worse than I ever thought possible
We gave up 2nd round pick for Hampson
That plus a player would have got us Longer and we didn't even try :banghead
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The day this thread says delisted we move on a little bit
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How on gods green earth did they not get mummy
We as in RFC
Too expensive too old
Usual excuses
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Derickx dropped for Pyke & Tippett.
Hampsud dropped for Vickery.
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mumford
mcevoy
longer
all changed hands
we got hampson
Sums us right up.After watching Longer today the Hampson deal looks worse than I ever thought possible
We gave up 2nd round pick for Hampson
That plus a player would have got us Longer and we didn't even try :banghead
I know they are being cheapskates but pick 28 for this spud.
Could have used that to get Billy Longer and add McGuane if they were smart. :help
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That docherty goes allright. :banghead Starting to come along nicely.
Then again those picks around that mark are usually a waste of time according to some.
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mumford
mcevoy
longer
all changed hands
we got hampson
We weren't ever getting mummy or McEvoy due to salary and in mcevoys case genuine flag potential.
Hawks currently have salary cap room and flag incentives waiting.
GWS have a billion dollar salary cap.
Longer I'd have to ponder ;D
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That docherty goes allright. :banghead Starting to come along nicely.
Then again those picks around that mark are usually a waste of time according to some.
was down the pub today for lunch and it popped up on the keno screen that someone just won 750 dollars.
but according to some playing keno is a waste of money.....
go figure!
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hmm should i chime in here and say something. after all plenty did get into me over hampson and longer.
all i will say is pick 12, for longer and 25. keeping pick 32 doesnt look so silly now i guess.
my only gripe and concern is when trading into picks our recruiting is so lousy we will just waste em regardless. the way our recruiting is, it seems we need to be trading into top 5 picks to be sure of getting good players.
i still think longer 12 dumont 25 , hewitt 32, marsh 50, and templeton 66 was the way to go. even if we picked different players to these the process would still be the right way to go.
i still believe mature f/a's chapman and laidler was the way to go.
i had no problem if availble for us to take miles gordon and lloyd as rookies. would have taken sully mature kpd as a rookie, as well as darcy cameron a young ruckman. in fact i would have taken cameron in the nd by cutting ricky petterd.
i actually think a similar scenario can be achieved this off season if we only have the balls to do it.
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Why give up Lennon?
Should of keeper derickx
Longer can gagf
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Why give up Lennon?
Should of keeper derickx
Longer can gagf
lol the blind faith in players just because they are at richmond and early picks. i have little faith in lennon to be honest i still would not have taken him at pick 12.
because i dont believe there was a huge difference between players from pick 9 to pick 35ish. what would i rather
l2, and hampson or longer a top 10 draft pick himself 25 and 32 id take the latter thanks.
its hilarious we get blokes you when not jumping ship constantly saying at times give griffiths time give vickery time yet when the shoe is applied to opposition players its no they are duds.billy longer is tracking along quite nicely thank you and looks more than capable of holding down stkildas firt ruck very well in a few yrs time. i can categorically state he will be a good ruckman/player. cant say that about many of our juniors including lennon.
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lennon seems to outside for me.
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Yes how silly to have faith in a 18/19 year old junior all Australian touted as an elite kick outstanding overhead mark when a contested ball, plays well at important moments and has general good goal and game smarts.
Billy longer the future dean cox would be wiser no doubt
lennon seems to outside for me.
U18,stats seem to indicate he's in/outside.
Longer seems a battyboy to me. Not that there anything wrong with that
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Lennon will at least be good enough for pick 12 in a compromised draft, would've preferred Dunstan or Acres though.
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That docherty goes allright. :banghead Starting to come along nicely.
Then again those picks around that mark are usually a waste of time according to some.
I liked Al's analogy but also put this out there too, he was a pick 12 :wallywink. But if you were talking about the trade for pick 33 well that's irrelevant when he was desperate to get out of Brisbane and Brisbane was desperate to at least get something in return.
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Need to know what dimflick has to say about this inspired decision, now....
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i need it like a fire needs a flame....
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Copped a little bit of a whack from King Carey :bow
IF YOU'VE got height on your side - and limited ability - you may as well start pursuing an AFL career, North Melbourne great Wayne Carey says.
"Our game has evolved so much in the last 20 years that pure football ability is no longer the No.1 pre-requisite," Carey writes in a Fairfax column.
"And of all the positions up for grabs for wannabe AFL players, it’s the position of ruckman which is there for the taking like none (sic) other."
The 272-game champion says the role of the ruckman has changed irrevocably, and uses Carlton's Robbie Warnock and Richmond's Shaun Hampson to illustrate his point.
"Warnock and Hampson have height on their side but what else?" he said.
"They're not aggressive nor do they have great running capacity. So exactly what is it about these super-tall players that attracts clubs?"
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-25/super-tall-but-no-ability
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Carey knows everything lol
Hampson was one of the quickest runners around Princess Park before he injured his knee
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Watched his game in the vfl.For guy 200 cm plus has no heart and doesnt do enough and just cruises around the ground.How they used pick 28 on him !.
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Also thought hampson was poor vs port. Griffiths was superior to hpson and orren.
No doubt hampson for vickery .
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Carey knows everything lol
Hampson was one of the quickest runners around Princess Park before he injured his knee
That's great ...but which Hampson do you think he's talking about - the one from years ago before he did his knee or the slow as stuff pootruck he sees playing for us now?
Besides that - he said running capacity - which refers to endurance around the ground moreso than speed. Something he's never had.
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im hoping he can use some of that speed and endurance to get the stuff out of our club
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I reckon he might come in and play a good game just quietly :shh
Did so in round 10. Took a few marks and hit a few guys on the lace out
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PHIL you reckon he took more than one mark?
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I reckon he might come in and play a good game just quietly :shh
Did so in round 10. Took a few marks and hit a few guys on the lace out
haha yeah took mummy to the cleaners
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Let's start one of those online fundraising campaigns to pay out his contract.
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Let's start one of those online fundraising campaigns to pay out his contract.
I'll put in a redback
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Let's start one of those online fundraising campaigns to pay out his contract.
What's his contract worth?*
*i am serious and so is TBR
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Let's start one of those online fundraising campaigns to pay out his contract.
What's his contract worth?*
*i am serious and so is TBR
If we can't get 50 000 members to put in $20 each I will be well and truly stuffed
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Let's start one of those online fundraising campaigns to pay out his contract.
What's his contract worth?*
*i am serious and so is TBR
If we can't get 50 000 members to put in $20 each I will be well and truly stuffed
Ufortunately that won't free up any cap space. If it was just a matter of paying him out, I'm sure the club would have about halfway through last year. Best we can hope now for is that they either Capuano him at some point next year or better yet, continued non-selection for the seniors leaves him disgruntled so he does everyone a favour by walking a year early.
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contracted for two more years :o
i assume you dont want mcbean in the ruck for a few years yet. and prefer to use mckenzie as a key forward untill he fails
that leaves only maric, vickery, griffiths,
hopfully elton is the 4th choice which makes hampson #5 :-\
edit: soldo, #6
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My $20 is still on offer
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contracted for two more years :o
i assume you dont want mcbean in the ruck for a few years yet. and prefer to use mckenzie as a key forward untill he fails
that leaves only maric, vickery, griffiths,
hopfully elton is the 4th choice which makes hampson #5 :-\
edit: soldo, #6
He'll be gone after 2015, we will pay him out
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Nope he's going to prove us all wrong this year. By no means will he be a star but he's going to prove his worth as an okay back up.
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Went well the big man. Got around the ground, took it on, got involved with it..really tapped to advantage an his second efforts were really good. :clapping
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But unfortunately still cannot take grabs consistently to save himself
Need to offer more than good tap work, which by the way at times went to the advantage of the Bulldogs too many times
Long way off being on our best 22
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I thought he was better than that actually WP.
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But unfortunately still cannot take grabs consistently to save himself
Need to offer more than good tap work, which by the way at times went to the advantage of the Bulldogs too many times
Long way off being on our best 22
disagree. one injury to maric and he has to play, so in fact not a long way off. our ruck stocks are diabolical. this is what happens when you have too many blokes who can perform two roles not very well. you end up being short for both kpfs and ruckmen.
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Leading Tiger in Supercoach points yesterday ;D :outtahere.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-points-western-bulldogs-v-richmond-tigers/story-fndv7pj3-1227243007921
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On the back of 37 hitouts, not enough of which were to advantage...
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On the back of 37 hitouts, not enough of which were to advantage...
Jake Stringer disagrees.
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Leading Tiger in Supercoach points yesterday ;D :outtahere.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-points-western-bulldogs-v-richmond-tigers/story-fndv7pj3-1227243007921
When a dud stars in an NAB match against the worst team in the afl, try reading between the lines
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Long way off being on our best 1000
E.F.A
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Long way off being on our best 1000
E.F.A
Q.F.T
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Went well the big man. Got around the ground, took it on, got involved with it..really tapped to advantage an his second efforts were really good. :clapping
You need glasses my friend.
He was and is poo.
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Went well the big man. Got around the ground, took it on, got involved with it..really tapped to advantage an his second efforts were really good. :clapping
Got first hand to the tap out most of the time. Ruck work was ok without being brilliant. Was a poo truck elsewhere around the ground
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I thought he was better than that actually WP.
Was at the game WAT (great fun it was too back at a surburban ground) and I thought he was average, a typical Hampson game. Plenty of hit outs and not much else
But unfortunately still cannot take grabs consistently to save himself
Need to offer more than good tap work, which by the way at times went to the advantage of the Bulldogs too many times
Long way off being on our best 22
disagree. one injury to maric and he has to play, so in fact not a long way off. our ruck stocks are diabolical. this is what happens when you have too many blokes who can perform two roles not very well. you end up being short for both kpfs and ruckmen.
I agree if Maric goes down he plays; that is obvious
But a fit Maric means there is no place for Hampson in our 22, that's the reality of his place in the pecking order
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I thought he was better than that actually WP.
Was at the game WAT (great fun it was too back at a surburban ground) and I thought he was average, a typical Hampson game. Plenty of hit outs and not much else
But unfortunately still cannot take grabs consistently to save himself
Need to offer more than good tap work, which by the way at times went to the advantage of the Bulldogs too many times
Long way off being on our best 22
disagree. one injury to maric and he has to play, so in fact not a long way off. our ruck stocks are diabolical. this is what happens when you have too many blokes who can perform two roles not very well. you end up being short for both kpfs and ruckmen.
I agree if Maric goes down he plays; that is obvious
But a fit Maric means there is no place for Hampson in our 22, that's the reality of his place in the pecking order
That's a BIG but, WP.
The same but that the club seem to think, isn't.
Hampson and Vickery are simply damaged goods.
So what did they do.....they got Ivan's cousin.
He's never played the game. Lol.
Take a step back and assess the situation.
It's laughable.
One real reliable ruckman in 10 years and no urgency to target an established tall for the ruck YET
they somehow expect to go top four on the hope that blokes like Conca and Ellis will more than cover that void.
The club is either bullshitting you or has nfi they are so far off the mark.
It seems they've profiled the supporter base as majorly morons.
GIVE ME A stuffing BREAK, FELLAS,
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hehehe
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I thought he was better than that actually WP.
Was at the game WAT (great fun it was too back at a surburban ground) and I thought he was average, a typical Hampson game. Plenty of hit outs and not much else
But unfortunately still cannot take grabs consistently to save himself
Need to offer more than good tap work, which by the way at times went to the advantage of the Bulldogs too many times
Long way off being on our best 22
disagree. one injury to maric and he has to play, so in fact not a long way off. our ruck stocks are diabolical. this is what happens when you have too many blokes who can perform two roles not very well. you end up being short for both kpfs and ruckmen.
I agree if Maric goes down he plays; that is obvious
But a fit Maric means there is no place for Hampson in our 22, that's the reality of his place in the pecking order
That's a BIG but, WP.
The same but that the club seem to think, isn't.
Hampson and Vickery are simply damaged goods.
So what did they do.....they got Ivan's cousin.
He's never played the game. Lol.
Take a step back and assess the situation.
It's laughable.
One real reliable ruckman in 10 years and no urgency to target an established tall for the ruck YET
they somehow expect to go top four on the hope that blokes like Conca and Ellis will more than cover that void.
The club is either rubbishting you or has nfi they are so far off the mark.
It seems they've profiled the supporter base as majorly morons.
GIVE ME A stuffING BREAK, FELLAS,
absolutely spot on ox. some of us have been screaming out for more talls including ruckmen for yrs on end yet we continue to get this sort of list management.
who in their right mind would say vickery can play as a top line ruckman, same goes for griffiths and mcbean. hampson at least gives a decent ruck contest but we need more than just a tap ruckman cand last but not least we have a 19 yr old in soldo whos hardly ever played the game. and this sort of situation has gone on for yrs. we are still in the situation of lose maric and we dont have a decent ruckman its criminal the way the list has been run. the same can be said for all types of tall defenders and all types of tall fwds.
ffs they constantly come out and say we need mids and proceed to use picks on flankers or sceptical mids. wehave lacked polished accountable sml and medium defenders for how long yet the need is never addressed and the exact same can be said for sml fwds.
for as long as we recruit poorly and manage the list poorly we will stay mired in mediocrity.
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stay focused folks......yesterday was a practice game
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stay focused folks......yesterday was a practice game
whos focused on yesterday, yesterday was just a continuation of whats gone before.
gotta ask did we do anything at all to address the maric situation in the off season. simple answer to that is no it has nothing to do with yesterday.
those of us who complain about our recruiting and list management were complaing long before yesterday.
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yesterday was a continuation of diddly squat..yesterday was a non event..If after round one your thesis continues then go ahead and give them a well deserved spray
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:rollin
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Here here gig
Didn't even waste my time watching
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yesterday was a continuation of diddly squat..yesterday was a non event..If after round one your thesis continues then go ahead and give them a well deserved spray
hhhaaarrgghh so sensitive.
yesterday was a continuation of exactly what has gone before pre season game or not.if you are gunna get upset at the answers people give maybe you shouldnt demand people stay focused.
my focus and posts goes way beyond yesterday in fact it envelops this regimes entire history and has little to do with yesterday.
so iyo opinion did we in the off season address the ruck stocks and the possibility of maric going down.
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yesterday was a continuation of diddly squat..yesterday was a non event..
Exactly what Claw is saying
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claw we have vickery,griff,and hampson as back up...who did you want to get to really secure that spot in the event Maric goes down..maybe Sandilands
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claw we have vickery,griff,and hampson as back up...who did you want to get to really secure that spot in the event Maric goes down..maybe Sandilands
they arent back up if they cant do the role well.besides im not talking about back up im talking about being capable of taking over and holding down the #1 ruck role. ffs griffiths and vickery are basically tall fwds and to date shizen ones at that.
hampson isnt the answer either he rucks well but hes totally deficient in just about every other area. unfortunately for us hes the next best option.
do you think liam mcbean could ever play ruck yet alone first ruck. have you looked at him lately. will he make it as a kpf gotta wonder eh.
i will say it for the millionth time we have players in griffiths vickery and mcbean who do two roles ruck and fwd, unfortunately they cant perform one of those roles really well. being ordinary at both. a bit like being a jack of two trades but master of neither. it kills us as far as list management goes because not only dont we have adequate rucks we dont have adequate fwds.
whats left oh yeah the cousin who is new to footy are we going to put all our eggs in that basket.
mate plenty of us have been going on about this not jsut this yr but for yrs. maric aside and to a lesser degree hamspud, we have ruckmen in name only. a good club would quickly recognise this and do something about it. us well we continually sit on our hands in hope that one can miraculously turn it around.
rucks should go like this imo and i do this with replacing hampson in mind,
maric 29yo vet.at 29 surely we are looking for his replacement and are currently grooming him. that must be hamspud eh.
24 - 27yo mature. to replace hampson who is not up to standard imo. this bloke should take over from ivan in a few yrs time.
22 - 24 yo a development player who could come in if there is a need. sinclair at the eagles is one ive advocated i also wanted longer but hes still a junior who is capable of playing right now.
21 and under junior or project player we have that in soldo given his background id rookie another as well.
tall fwds
riewoldt 195cm mature kpf, mckenzie 197cm junior kpf. as a club we need three more talls.preferably two around 190 - 194 who are quick and agile with good hands.and another genuine kpf.
ruck/fwds
griffiths 200 cm development, vickery 200cm mature, mcbean 200cm junior.imo they cant consistently play well as permanent kpfs. im happy to concede they may become decent kpfs but its been highly unlikely for a fair while.what exacerbates the problem with them is none are #1 ruckmen or very good in the role.
they arent #1 ruckmen and imo this is the role they need to be good in. ive long argued we only need one of them on the list.
if one of them was good in one of the roles they play, id be more than happy to place em either as a ruckman or a fwd but unfortunately they arent.
like i have said we have numbers but we dont actually have players.we fail to recognise this or worse acknowledge it and it sure frustrates the hell out of me.
can you see vickery griffiths or mcbean ever taking over from maric, i sure as hell cant and i would not be planning for it to happen and manage the list accordingly.
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Ok Claw Ill have a go. IMHO our ruck stocks are weak but in the list managers defense you only absolutely need a good ruck when your in premiership contention and when u are you can draft one in. Classic examples of going and finding a decent ruck. Maric, Jolly, Mumford nearly every year a decent ruck gets picked up.
What the first 13 rounds of last year told us was our midfield really isnt up to scratch yet, we need to build it more. I suppose thats why they picked 4 mids before a kpf this year.
Now after saying that Im gonna weaken my argument by poiting out hamspuds recruitment. Why do it and for that price if we really thought ruckmen were cream on the cake not cake.
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Ok Claw Ill have a go. IMHO our ruck stocks are weak but in the list managers defense you only absolutely need a good ruck when your in premiership contention and when u are you can draft one in. Classic examples of going and finding a decent ruck. Maric, Jolly, Mumford nearly every year a decent ruck gets picked up.
What the first 13 rounds of last year told us was our midfield really isnt up to scratch yet, we need to build it more. I suppose thats why they picked 4 mids before a kpf this year.
Now after saying that Im gonna weaken my argument by poiting out hamspuds recruitment. Why do it and for that price if we really thought ruckmen were cream on the cake not cake.
so we agree the ruck stocks are weak.but we disagree on how to go about this area when it comes to list management.
1/ you always need a very good ruckman. whats this nonsense you only need em when in premiership mode. i suppose you only ever need good mids or a gun kpf kpd when in premiership mode.
2/ most clubs actually take young ruckmen in the nd and then develop them. its only when development has failed that clubs will then target mature ruckmen or any sort of player for that matter.
our trouble atm is we refuse to acknowledge development has failed.
3/ the first 13 rounds told us last yr w we were not up to scratch in all areas especially the fwd line.it most definately showed us we cant cope without rance or ivan maric. and we have just one effective fwd in riewoldt.theres just not the quality or depth in any of these areas.
it showed as clear as the nose on your face that hampson is not an adequate replacement for maric and wont be taking over from him when he retires.it showed vickery and griffiths are not capable of playing as permanent ruckmen and mcbean is so far away its just ludicrous. so what should we have done.
i know ignore the problem because we actually have the required numbers never mind they cant perform the role.
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Blair Hartley loves him :lol
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Blair Hartley loves him :lol
Apparently scored very high on Hartleys points system!
Too bad he can't actually play footy.... :whistle
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Brendan Lade on talking tigers reckons he was BOG on Saturday :facepalm
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He earned the most superfooty points so someone thought he went alright
As I said earlier, I thought he had a good game, gotta call em as you see them on the day not based on preconceived notions from the past.
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If you could bring him on the ground NFL style purely for his tap work then he might be useful but once he has fulfilled that task he really serves no other purpose other than getting in other players way and dropping easy marks.
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hehe
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Yeah he should run straight to the bench after his tapping work is over
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The AFL should bring in NFL-style special teams for "special" players like Hamspud....
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I think he's a useless tap ruckman also. He might tap it first but that doesn't mean its effective.
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He usually taps it to oppo mid
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Persistence with this guy proves the place isn't being run with any real intelligence.
It really is that stuffn simple.
Vickery also.
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2/ most clubs actually take young ruckmen in the nd and then develop them. its only when development has failed that clubs will then target mature ruckmen or any sort of player for that matter.
our trouble atm is we refuse to acknowledge development has failed.
Look at the modern day premiers. Most are mature aged ruckmen taken from other clubs
2014/3 - Hale for Hawthorn originally from North
2012 - Mumford for Sydney originally from Geelong
2011 - Ottens for Geelong originally with us
2010 - Jolly for Collingwood originally from Melbourne
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2/ most clubs actually take young ruckmen in the nd and then develop them. its only when development has failed that clubs will then target mature ruckmen or any sort of player for that matter.
our trouble atm is we refuse to acknowledge development has failed.
Look at the modern day premiers. Most are mature aged ruckmen taken from other clubs
2014/3 - Hale for Hawthorn originally from North
2012 - Mumford for Sydney originally from Geelong
2011 - Ottens for Geelong originally with us
2010 - Jolly for Collingwood originally from Melbourne
Add McEvoy to that list for Hawthorn, and now see that Port has snapped up Paddy Ryder to assist Lobbe.
Need to steal a good one who is already playing in the first 22 of their club IMO.
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of the last ten premiership, 3 were with the club that originally drafted them.
is that not most?
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brisbane - with leuenberger
carlton - kruezer
coll - witts and grundy
ess - bellchambers and unti the drug fiasco ryder. hille until recently
freo - sandi, clarke,
geel - simpson vardy blicsavs west and king home grown played in recent premierships yes they bought in ottens and now mcintosh.
gcs - gorringe nichols smith
gws - downie lobb philips yep they had giles and have mumford they are looking to develop their own.
melbourne - jamar gawn fitzpatrick king spencer.
nm - goldstein, mcintosh till recently,
pa - lobbe
now if 14 15 clubs arent a majority ill be damned. why are there so many nuffies on this site who never ever think for themselves, they just follow their foolish mates around the site who are so full of poo its hilarious.
stk - hickey they took longer from another club as a 19yr old so basically they are developing him.
syd - pyke
wce - lycett, natainui sinclair and cox just retired.
wb - minson
can almost add adelaide as they took jacobs from another club at age 20.
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so we take our lead from those that missed the big prize and ignore the trend of premiership winners?
i suppose that makes sense as each season most clubs miss don't win the premiership
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why are there so many nuffies on this site who never ever think for themselves, they just follow their foolish mates around the site who are so full of poo its hilarious.
Or maybe you just blindly try and argue with the majority because it makes you feel like you are smarter than everyone else (except Doic because he makes it clear to everyone he is the smartest).
The original comment is you don't desperately need a ruckman until you are in a premiership window, so who gives a stuff what the rest of those teams do? Only one of them are going to win it and in recent times the premiership winners have topped up their ruck stocks and won shortly after.
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just gotta love the narcisstic view that if more than person disagree with you then they are all just following each other.
no way in world that multiple people could independently have a view that differs from the one, is there?
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We have Ivan junior too.
That''ll fix it.
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We have Ivan junior too.
That''ll fix it.
How tall is he
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We have Ivan junior too.
That''ll fix it.
How tall is he
Too tall! :banghead
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We have Ivan junior too.
That''ll fix it.
How tall is he
Too tall! :banghead
Darn delist
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As you can see, every single one of the last 5 premiership teams has had at least one imported ruckman for their premiership push. Seven of the last ten premiership ruckman are imported, three developed. Four of the ten runner-up ruckman over the same time are imported.
2014
Hawthorn - Hale (from North) and McEvoy (from St Kilda)
Sydney - Pyke (developed) and Tippet (from Adelaide)
2013
Hawthorn - Hale (from North) and Bailey (developed)
Fremantle - Sandilands (developed) and Clarke (developed)
2012
Sydney - Mumford (from Geelong) and Pyke (developed)
Hawthorn - Hale (from North) and Roughead (developed)
2011
Geelong - Ottens (from Richmond) and West (developed)
Collingwood - Jolly (from Sydney) and Brown (from Freo/North)
2010
Collingwood - Jolly (from Sydney) and Brown (from Freo/North)
St Kilda - McEvoy (developed) and Koschitzke (developed)
So to me it seems pretty clear. You try to develop your own ruckman, but if you don't have a quality one you just go and grab one - players are always lured by the potential of premiership success, and ruckman come cheap compared to star mids and KP's.
Hampson should only ever have been a backup ruckman. We overpaid for him and he will never feature in a premiership. Sticking with Derickx would have been a wiser option for a backup - showed he can hold his own just fine in 2014 playing for Sydney. Just needed a bit of faith invested in him.
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However it's probably also worth noting that from the last five grand finals there have been 14 different ruckman (including forwards playing backup ruck).
Seven imported, seven developed.
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300 cm
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However it's probably also worth noting that from the last five grand finals there have been 14 different ruckman (including forwards playing backup ruck).
Seven imported, seven developed.
Correct. Nothing wrong with getting a used ruckman
Issue is Hampson is not good enough for senior football. He wasn't at Carlton and he isn't now
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Exactly. He was worth a 3rd round pick on a good day. Certainly not a 2nd :(
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However it's probably also worth noting that from the last five grand finals there have been 14 different ruckman (including forwards playing backup ruck).
Seven imported, seven developed.
Correct. Nothing wrong with getting a used ruckman
Issue is Hampson is not good enough for senior football. He wasn't at Carlton and he isn't now
Yes.
It's almost impossible to call him "used"
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Ok Claw Ill have a go. IMHO our ruck stocks are weak but in the list managers defense you only absolutely need a good ruck when your in premiership contention and when u are you can draft one in. Classic examples of going and finding a decent ruck. Maric, Jolly, Mumford nearly every year a decent ruck gets picked up.
What the first 13 rounds of last year told us was our midfield really isnt up to scratch yet, we need to build it more. I suppose thats why they picked 4 mids before a kpf this year.
Now after saying that Im gonna weaken my argument by poiting out hamspuds recruitment. Why do it and for that price if we really thought ruckmen were cream on the cake not cake.
so we agree the ruck stocks are weak.but we disagree on how to go about this area when it comes to list management.
1/ you always need a very good ruckman. whats this nonsense you only need em when in premiership mode. i suppose you only ever need good mids or a gun kpf kpd when in premiership mode.
2/ most clubs actually take young ruckmen in the nd and then develop them. its only when development has failed that clubs will then target mature ruckmen or any sort of player for that matter.
our trouble atm is we refuse to acknowledge development has failed.
3/ the first 13 rounds told us last yr we were not up to scratch in all areas especially the fwd line.it most definately showed us we cant cope without rance or ivan maric. and we have just one effective fwd in riewoldt.theres just not the quality or depth in any of these areas.
it showed as clear as the nose on your face that hampson is not an adequate replacement for maric and wont be taking over from him when he retires.it showed vickery and griffiths are not capable of playing as permanent ruckmen and mcbean is so far away its just ludicrous. so what should we have done.
i know ignore the problem because we actually have the required numbers never mind they cant perform the role.
are you arguing point 2 seems so. ive actually shown that most clubs first attempt to develop ruckmen and when that fails they will go after a mature ruckman. clearly this is exactly what has happened. isnt that exactly what i said in point 2.so what the hell are you prattling on about.
i know, one particular person didnt like what was being said and decided to move the goal posts.lets make it all about premiership ruckman and the usual herd of sheep duly followed.
even hawthorn went down the development route the retirements of campbell and taylor in 08 and the injuries and subsequent retirement of bailey and the failure of renouf to kick on saw the need for them them to trade for ruckmen.
if any one actually disagrees with the above great you only look sillier than you already are.
i havent argued anywhere that clubs dont trade for mature ruckmen ive just pointed the very obvious fact that most clubs try development first and if you look at all clubs this very fact is borne out.
are you seriously suggesting clubs just ignore development altogether and just go and get a player as they need one. it certainly seems like it.and if not what the hell are you arguing about. it has never happened except for sydney who with their extra million in salary cap space have just gone out and bought what they need.
geelong had blake, ottens, and king, and still proceeded to draft west simpson and mumford.mumford and west were traded out to get opportunity and stephenson was not good enough. blicavs stephenson and mcintosh came in recent seasons. are you people seriously suggesting geelong have not put a lot into development because that certainly seems the case. they have tried to develop and when that has failed or circumstance has reduced their stocks they have then traded.
as i said there are unthinking people on here who follow like sheep.
finally trading for ruckmen has really worked well for us hasnt it. we are forever chasing ruckmen because we have forever failed to develop our own.
stephenson, hampson, simmons, marsh, knobel even ivan at age 26 taken at a time when we werent and still arent anywhere near a premiership should we have taken him. unless we are in premiership mode we dont need a good ruckman it seems. i cant think of one good ruckman we have developed in god knows how long but hey lets just do what we always do to solve the problem trade for a hack at an exhorbitant price only to need to do it again in the short term.
yep im spot on in my points its so simple and so freakin obvious yet some are just too thick to see it.
anyway ive said my piece abuse away like you usually do its fun to watch.
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Lol Claw
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I'd just like to remind or introduce people to this quote
"Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to poo on the board and strut around like it won anyway"
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Edit & Snip :banghead :banghead
Stick to the topic with out the name calling.
Debate the issue without the name calling. People are entitled to disagree and debate.
I don't care who started it, not interested in people finger pointing....
This a final warning. Continue with the insults and name calling and suspensions will be issued
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Exactly. He was worth a 3rd round pick on a good day. Certainly not a 2nd :(
crap is crap, regardless of what you paid for it. the argument over whether he is worth second round third round or whatever is moot. you either should have got him or you shouldn't have.
If you buy something that doesn't do the job you purchased it for, now matter how cheap you get it for, it is a bad buy.
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Disagree. It's like needing a car either you pay through the nose and get something amazing like a bugatti or you buy a clapped out Commodore for ~1-2 thousand to get you from A to B for a couple of years until you can get something better but you wouldn't pay in excess of $100,000 for the Commy
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but the clapped out commodore in your example still does what you want it to.
the hampson version wont start, misfires and gets past by old ladies on mobility scooters, yet still takes valuable parking space. no matter how much you paid for it, you have squandered your hard earned.
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but the clapped out commodore in your example still does what you want it to.
the hampson version wont start, misfires and gets past by old ladies on mobility scooters, yet still takes valuable parking space. no matter how much you paid for it, you have squandered your hard earned.
Great summation and closing point
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Edit & Snip :banghead :banghead
Stick to the topic with out the name calling.
Debate the issue without the name calling. People are entitled to disagree and debate.
I don't care who started it, not interested in people finger pointing....
This a final warning. Continue with the insults and name calling and suspensions will be issued
With the new match review panel it might be that posters just get a fine like Lindsey Thomas?
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I feel the playing chess with a pigeon analogy deserves a round of golf claps, it is new, fresh and funny.
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Let's not fail to highlight the key issue here though.
Hampson didn't just cross to us and become a poo player overnight, Wizza Capper style.
He was an exposed very ordinary player. Carlton members nicknamed him cymbals because he has hands like them when marking.
It was obvious to even the most casual observer that he was and is poo. And our recruiters got him. And paid highly for him.
And our club hierarchy has never once held them to account about it.
That should never, ever be forgotten.
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Lest we forget
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Thread title should be changed to "officially a spud"
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but the clapped out commodore in your example still does what you want it to.
the hampson version wont start, misfires and gets past by old ladies on mobility scooters, yet still takes valuable parking space. no matter how much you paid for it, you have squandered your hard earned.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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but the clapped out commodore in your example still does what you want it to.
the hampson version wont start, misfires and gets past by old ladies on mobility scooters, yet still takes valuable parking space. no matter how much you paid for it, you have squandered your hard earned.
I guess it depends how he rates vs. your expectations
I feel the playing chess with a pigeon analogy deserves a round of golf claps, it is new, fresh and funny.
I assume this is some sarcastic dig but I did say 'to remind people'
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so what expectations do you have when you recruit a player? when you target an opposition player specifically i expect him to, at the bare minimum, hold his own
are you really happy to have a ruckman on the list that does swa around the ground as long as you only give up a third round pick?
me, i dont want an underperforming player on the list full stop. giving up a later pick for him doesnt improve his performance or make it any more acceptable.
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We got him for VFL
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so what expectations do you have when you recruit a player? when you target an opposition player specifically i expect him to, at the bare minimum, hold his own
are you really happy to have a ruckman on the list that does swa around the ground as long as you only give up a third round pick?
me, i dont want an underperforming player on the list full stop. giving up a later pick for him doesnt improve his performance or make it any more acceptable.
Exactly if you were taking a player like this on you should be compensated in some manner not expected to give something up
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so what expectations do you have when you recruit a player? when you target an opposition player specifically i expect him to, at the bare minimum, hold his own
are you really happy to have a ruckman on the list that does swa around the ground as long as you only give up a third round pick?
me, i dont want an underperforming player on the list full stop. giving up a later pick for him doesnt improve his performance or make it any more acceptable.
Yep I agree with that being a bare minimum. I don't think I made it clear that I was arguing the point 'crap is crap regardless of what you pay' not so much as was Hampson worth what we paid because he wasn't.
What about a rookie pick though? For example someone with outstanding atheltic attributes who is new to the game but then he turns out to be a dud?
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Lest we forget
Let's all forget
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
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:lol
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
Well get on the prunes and get cracking - season starts in less than a month....
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
Well get on the prunes and get cracking - season starts in less than a month....
And wash them down with a glass of water from the Ganges.
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
Well get on the prunes and get cracking - season starts in less than a month....
poo out 22 please.
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
Well get on the prunes and get cracking - season starts in less than a month....
And wash them down with a glass of water from the Ganges.
He said THREAD CLOSED >:(
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For depth
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Closed or clogged?
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Personally feel that Hampson will go OK this year.
Will wait and see during the season proper.
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Personally feel that Hampson will go OK this year.
Will wait and see during the season proper.
Personally feel your putting on the wrong green champ
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To sum up I could poo a better footballer than Hampson.
Thread closed.
Well get on the prunes and get cracking - season starts in less than a month....
poo out 22 please.
Wouldn't go that far....he only said they'd be better than Hamspud...
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:lol :lol This has been one of the funniest threads in ages. Im almost glad we collected such a dud for the giggles. :pray for a miracle he might come good
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
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What other ruckman do we have Claw? Saldo? Bit harsh to critique the guy when at most only a select few has seen him play
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He's a better ruck than either Vickery or Griffiths.
Just offers nowhere near as much around the ground. And that's a big fail.
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
Hate is a strong word Clawski. Maybe you just dislike him as a player
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There's too much hate in the world already
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Everybody love everybody.
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I'm not one for dancing round an issue lads, but i don't think I've ever said I hate a particular player. Or anyone at the club for that matter.
Chuck makes a reasonable and measured point, there's a lot of hate out there.
I'm certain Claw just dislikes Hampson and the 'hate' label is just a minor verb-based play on dislike
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I think you can hate someone as a footballer but not as an individual.
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I think you can hate someone as a footballer but not as an individual.
x2
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Hate is a strong word indeed,but it is Claw afterall.A man whose passions can runneth over the top.Iam sure if claw hates he does like Khomeni
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I think you can hate someone as a footballer but not as an individual.
It's an interesting one. Do people who say they hate player x also hate the person?
And some of us might be able to separate the two, but would the individual who plays football (and for the most part football defines who he is as a person), not take offence as an individual rather than as a footballer?
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Maybe they hate what these players represent.Put on a Carlton jumper and you re liable to get a declaration of war from me
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Jowl Bowden
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There's too much hate in the world already
what you have never said you hate a footballer before? Doesnt mean we hate them as people because truth is we dont know them.
That being said I can honestly say wrongly or rightly i have said i hate Hird in the last 2 years on more than 1 occasion..
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Judd
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
Hate is a strong word Clawski. Maybe you just dislike him as a player
well i dont the big no hoper so it would be impossible to hate him as a person. it only leaves the footballing side of it.
i knew when i posted it that some nuffies would act all offended.
oh and philisophically there is very much a need for hate in all of us. gotta love the idealists of the world eh. some of em are dangerous they put their ideals in front of all else no matter the consequences down the track. consequences that have to be cleaned up by others.
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
Hate is a strong word Clawski. Maybe you just dislike him as a player
well i dont the big no hoper so it would be impossible to hate him as a person. it only leaves the footballing side of it.
i knew when i posted it that some nuffies would act all offended.
oh and philisophically there is very much a need for hate in all of us. gotta love the idealists of the world eh. some of em are dangerous they put their ideals in front of all else no matter the consequences down the track. consequences that have to be cleaned up by others.
yep you gotta hate those people like Ghandi, trotsky, plato and co,, their stupid ideals just got in the way of stagnating humanity.. i also would argue that hate is a leftover emotion from our evolution.. Hate is something that is created via anger from someone attacking a persons ego... The larger the ego, the more hate the person feels.. simple isnt it. so actually there is no need for hate at all if your ego is held in check. ;)
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Cotchin said the Tigers' match committee had a decision to make on whether they could also play fellow big man Shaun Hampson, who impressed in the opening NAB Challenge match but was left out against the Power.
"He's come a long way from last year," Cotchin said of the former Blues ruckman.
"We love how he's improved over the summer and he's just going to give himself every chance to play in the senior team.
"Ivan has had a really continuous pre-season, which he hasn't had for a couple of years now, so he'll be set to go for round one.
"He's a massive part of our structure and we're just looking forward to him being ready and available at the start of the season."
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-16/cotchin-still-on-track)
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
Hate is a strong word Clawski. Maybe you just dislike him as a player
well i dont the big no hoper so it would be impossible to hate him as a person. it only leaves the footballing side of it.
i knew when i posted it that some nuffies would act all offended.
oh and philisophically there is very much a need for hate in all of us. gotta love the idealists of the world eh. some of em are dangerous they put their ideals in front of all else no matter the consequences down the track. consequences that have to be cleaned up by others.
yep you gotta hate those people like Ghandi, trotsky, plato and co,, their stupid ideals just got in the way of stagnating humanity.. i also would argue that hate is a leftover emotion from our evolution.. Hate is something that is created via anger from someone attacking a persons ego... The larger the ego, the more hate the person feels.. simple isnt it. so actually there is no need for hate at all if your ego is held in check. ;)
Christopher Pyne transcends all of this and triggers a need to be hurt, it must be a quirk of evolution that demands he be removed from the gene pool immediately.
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Good to see people filling the "irrelevent political rants in football threads" void left by Judge.
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hate the bastard should never ever have taken him, but you know what im chuckling. this bloke cops heaps but hes a better ruck option than every other ruckman on the list bar big ivan. yet i dont see the vitriol for them that this bloke gets. you lot are sure selective in your criticisms.
Hate is a strong word Clawski. Maybe you just dislike him as a player
well i dont the big no hoper so it would be impossible to hate him as a person. it only leaves the footballing side of it.
i knew when i posted it that some nuffies would act all offended.
oh and philisophically there is very much a need for hate in all of us. gotta love the idealists of the world eh. some of em are dangerous they put their ideals in front of all else no matter the consequences down the track. consequences that have to be cleaned up by others.
yep you gotta hate those people like Ghandi, trotsky, plato and co,, their stupid ideals just got in the way of stagnating humanity.. i also would argue that hate is a leftover emotion from our evolution.. Hate is something that is created via anger from someone attacking a persons ego... The larger the ego, the more hate the person feels.. simple isnt it. so actually there is no need for hate at all if your ego is held in check. ;)
Self analysis.
Not necessarily applicable to all individuals.
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Good to see people filling the "irrelevent political rants in football threads" void left by Judge.
It was the most relevant example of someone inspiring irrational hatred I could think of. People of all political persuasions, and genders tell me they want to slap his face and that they wouldn't tire of it...
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Good to see people filling the "irrelevent political rants in football threads" void left by Judge.
It was the most relevant example of someone inspiring irrational hatred I could think of. People of all political persuasions, and genders tell me they want to slap his face and that they wouldn't tire of it...
How many were turkey slaps?
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Maybe the blokes from the moustache parade up in Sydney were keen on that. Pyne might like it.
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Welcome back Hammer. You have been sorely missed pal
In all seriousness I don't think Maric has has a great year so a week off might do him well. This is Hampson's one and only chance to do something right for the million dollars he is getting paid.
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He will perform better than Maric
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He will perform better than Maric
Looks shot
Get lburger or z smith
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Probably not a bad idea at all to play Hampson against Kreuzer and Wood IMO.
Hopefully not suspended tho...
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Not a good idea
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Not a good idea
So if Maric is suspended, and Griffiths is injured, and you want play Hampson, we're going to expect Vickery to win the ruck against both Kreuzer and Wood?
Assisted by... who exactly?
If Maric and Griff don't play then we MUST play Hampson with Vickery as the relief. We also need to consider playing either McBean or McKenzie to play tall FWD.
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Not a good idea
So if Maric is suspended, and Griffiths is injured, and you want play Hampson, we're going to expect Vickery to win the ruck against both Kreuzer and Wood?
Assisted by... who exactly?
If Maric and Griff don't play then we MUST play Hampson with Vickery as the relief. We also need to consider playing either McBean or McKenzie to play tall FWD.
I am in denial griff injury still
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Not a good idea
So if Maric is suspended, and Griffiths is injured, and you want play Hampson, we're going to expect Vickery to win the ruck against both Kreuzer and Wood?
Assisted by... who exactly?
If Maric and Griff don't play then we MUST play Hampson with Vickery as the relief. We also need to consider playing either McBean or McKenzie to play tall FWD.
I am in denial griff injury still
I still don't think Vickery + Griffiths VS Kreuzer + Wood is a good idea.
Vick and Griff are backup rucks. Kreuzer and Wood are both genuine rucks. Would be asking for trouble IMO.
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Not a good idea
So if Maric is suspended, and Griffiths is injured, and you want play Hampson, we're going to expect Vickery to win the ruck against both Kreuzer and Wood?
Assisted by... who exactly?
If Maric and Griff don't play then we MUST play Hampson with Vickery as the relief. We also need to consider playing either McBean or McKenzie to play tall FWD.
I am in denial griff injury still
I still don't think Vickery + VS Kreuzer + Wood is a good idea.
Vick and Griff are backup rucks. Kreuzer and Wood are both genuine rucks. Would be asking for trouble IMO.
IMHO...
Vick and Ben > Vick and griff and Shaun
It is better to win the ruck or have an extra small rotation? Will wood actually beat Griff or Tyrone? He was working for nova not long ago ffs
Kreuzer is a gun forward, as much as he is a ruck
Regardless it look like 100% Hampson this week :neener :neener
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You would need Griffiths and Vickery to ruck/FWD all day with almost zero interchange.
If you put one on the bench and another in the ruck then we have Jack all by his lonesome in the F50, and we know how they worked out don't we? Two or three blokes on him every week because he's the only tall FWD we have. That's why we play three talls now - so when Maric gets a break and Vickery/Griff go into the ruck we're not down to a singular KPF.
If we don't play Hampson then we need McBean or McKenzie to come in and play KPF with Jack.
As for Kreuzer being a 'gun forward' you must be joking? He's kicked a massive 58 goals in 110 games. He's bagged 3 goals 3 times in his career. Hardly a world-beater.
In fact Grigg has kicked considerably more goals than Kreuzer since coming to RFC in 2011 lol.
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You would need Griffiths and Vickery to ruck/FWD all day with almost zero interchange.
If you put one on the bench and another in the ruck then we have Jack all by his lonesome in the F50, and we know how they worked out don't we? Two or three blokes on him every week because he's the only tall FWD we have. That's why we play three talls now - so when Maric gets a break and Vickery/Griff go into the ruck we're not down to a singular KPF.
If we don't play Hampson then we need McBean or McKenzie to come in and play KPF with Jack.
As for Kreuzer being a 'gun forward' you must be joking? He's kicked a massive 58 goals in 110 games. He's bagged 3 goals 3 times in his career. Hardly a world-beater.
In fact Grigg has kicked considerably more goals than Kreuzer since coming to RFC in 2011 lol.
I like the idea of McBean or Mckenzie plus Vickery / Griffiths
Much more than Hampson
Kreuzer has done his knee 3 time or something unlucky. If he stays fit you will not laugh at him to long. I'd be over the moon to have him at punt rd :pray
How many goals has kreuzer kicked vs richmond in how many games? Certainly feels like a lot
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9 games
5 goals
4 behinds
200 hitouts
However Carlton has beaten RFC 8 of those 9 games, which is why it makes you wonder probably...
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9 games
5 goals
4 behinds
200 hitouts
However Carlton has beaten RFC 8 of those 9 games, which is why it makes you wonder probably...
I just had the misfortune of sitting behind the goals the game he kicked a bag against us then
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Round 1 2013 when he kicked 2.2?
That's the only game he's ever kicked multiple goals against us.
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Ironically it was also the only time Kreuzer has played a lost a game VS RFC.
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Maybe he was giving them off instead of kicking them
Certainly not a richmond win that day
I just remember pimples running riot in the forward line. Just awful
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Maybe r1 2012
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_list?year=2012
3 votes: pimples
Jayden bloody post was probably on him
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Obviously not part of our future but Hampson did his job tonight and surprisingly actually took a fair few decent grabs. 11 possies, 8 marks and 34 hitouts is a good return for him.
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Obviously not part of our future but Hampson did his job tonight and surprisingly actually took a fair few decent grabs. 11 possies, 8 marks and 34 hitouts is a good return for him.
He looked like he was one leg all night and still got the job done
Hats off to him.
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Operation get kreuzer
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Did his role perfectly. Back to the 2's next week but he did what ur second ruck is meant to do. :cheers
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He's a winner.......
.........in the bedroom.
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Did alright the big mong. Probably doubled his total career marks in one match.
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Played very well. He's a superior ruck to Maric and his marking around the ground was very good. Hard to drop him after a game like that. Deserves to keep his spot IMO.
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Hammer time
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
July 11, 2015
Shaun Hampson played his first game for Richmond since round 14 last season, and he came up against an opponent set on running him into the ground. Athletic big man Matthew Kreuzer had the better of their duel early, but Hampson worked his way into the game to finish with 34 hit-outs and eight marks. He took two contested grabs in a show of authority that would have made Hardwick ponder his potential as a fill in for injured forward Ben Griffiths, who will remain sidelined next week. "Kreuzer was running him ragged at the start, he obviously knew that he hadn't played," Hardwick said. "So poor old Shaun had the tongue out … it was a really brave effort by the bloke."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-10/five-talking-points-richmond-v-carlton
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Went very very well, should shut the haters up for one more week. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Possibly his best game for us. It was really refreshing seeing us get first use of the ball more often. If Maric needs a rest to keep fresh I'd say play Hampson again
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Possibly his best game for us. It was really refreshing seeing us get first use of the ball more often. If Maric needs a rest to keep fresh I'd say play Hampson again
Agree, it was wasnt it, seems Hampson really knows where to put the ball for our centres. He also presented very well, marked very well moved very well and really got around the ground. I noted he was also kicking the ball more and hitting targets, something that was lacking in his game before as he was always looking for the handball. Had he kicked that goal he would really would have topped his night off.
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Thought he was good in the ruck contest
Still shocked at the number of marks he took
If he gets a gig next week, he needs to back it up
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Pleasantly surprised with his game. The challenge will be if he can keep it up if he plays again.
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Was simply outstanding , full credit to the development coaches , he s come back as the six million dollar man :clapping
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Unbelievable effort really -considering he hadn't played in the VFL for weeks.
If he hadn't played like such a potato last year , I would be highly encouraged .
Can Hammer back it up ?
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Had an op on his knee 3 weeks ago also, hadnt played since May 30th
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Possibly his best game for us. It was really refreshing seeing us get first use of the ball more often. If Maric needs a rest to keep fresh I'd say play Hampson again
Agree, it was wasnt it, seems Hampson really knows where to put the ball for our centres. He also presented very well, marked very well moved very well and really got around the ground. I noted he was also kicking the ball more and hitting targets, something that was lacking in his game before as he was always looking for the handball. Had he kicked that goal he would really would have topped his night off.
I thought his disposal was the thing that let him down last night TBH.
Still, like others, I was pleasantly surprised, particularly his second efforts after the ruck and his work around the ground. It was refreshing to see a Richmond Ruckman actually get off the ground in the ruck contests :P
A fair bit of improvement is needed still, but that was better than what he has been dishing up.
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Went very very well, should shut the haters up for one more week. :clapping :clapping :clapping
I don't get it. It took you years to get on the Edwards band wagon but one good game for Hammer and your all over it, actually you rated him before that.
Saying that Clunkson played very well. In fact he had a better performance than I can recall Maric having all year IMO. Deserves to stay in next week whether Maric comes back in or not.
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Done his job. Considering its his 1st game of football for sometime. Job well done as Kruz was in form last night
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SNIP!
:banghead :banghead
Back to the topic
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Hampson on SEN ...
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3361917-1116-sen-footy-shaun-hampson
* The coaches have been as good as they can be about it. They said I’m doing everything right and everything I can, I’ve just got to wait for my chance. And it finally came and it was against the old boys [Carlton]. It’s a great feeling. I don’t know where to from here but I’ll just keep doing everything I can.
* Choco Williams has been really good for us taller players the last couple of months. We’ve had sort of specialised Choco training, which isn’t always fun. His extra work during the week is tough but it’s really paying off for the bigger players like myself, Vickers and Griff as well. We’ve got to keep sticking with it.
* The body’s good. I had a little cleanout on the knee two weeks ago because that was causing me a bit of trouble. It freed it up even more and I’m moving really freely out there.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-07-13/hammer-nails-his-chance
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Trade for 2nd rounder
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He got 1 coaches association vote! We should consider playing this guy as first ruck vs the saints and maybe have Maric as the back up ruckman/fwd to account for Vickery?
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Played his role last week and would be unlucky to be dropped.
Would suggest using him again this week as the main ruck and either give Maric another rest or perhaps finding a role for Maric in this week's side.
May be a bit too slow with the two big men on the dry track that is Etihad.
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Maric, Hamspud & Thomarse in for Edwards on a fast, dry track against a quick, young side?
Sounds like something Hardwick would do.....
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Trade for 2nd rounder
We traded a 2nd rounder to get him and we paid overs. Way over
No way would you get a 2nd rounder for him
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Maric, Hamspud & Thomarse in for Edwards on a fast, dry track against a quick, young side?
Sounds like something Hardwick would do.....
Yep, would much rather McBean come in along with Lennon and/or McDonough. Not really much speed from that but at least they have upside. None of our quick players deserve a go, not yet.
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Going very well just needs to kick them goals.
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Spud
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Missed 1 he should have kicked. Let's see how 2nd half goes.
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Decent depth player at this output.
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Spud
Your a clown sometimes. Watch the game?
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Spud
Your a clown sometimes. Watch the game?
I'm watching
Polly farmer
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LOL
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He's a better option than Maric who yet again was a liabilitty
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Have to say that Maric didn't have his usual control today, seemed to constantly get pushed under the contest and his marking generally around the ground has dropped off. Hopefully it's just having that week off but needs to up the ante in the next few weeks.
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Maric looked finished.
Hampson is now our number 1 ruck. If you disagree you must be blind.
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I like when he dropped the sitter in the forward pocket it went down the end for a 2 goal turn around
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I like when he dropped the sitter in the forward pocket it went down the end for a 2 goal turn around
Was that the same time you watched Batch give them two goals?.?
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I like when he dropped the sitter in the forward pocket it went down the end for a 2 goal turn around
Was that the same time you watched Batch give them two goals?.?
The specific hampson drop mark i refer to was in the fourth
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i think you missed wat's point.
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What's the point, bachelor played bad?
If so point taken
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selective vision, i believe.
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I've only got one set of eyes and not yet watched the replay
From my seat, Bach was OK on mccartin who looks like a spud
Bachelor aside, the two goal turn around from the drop mark was pathetic by hampson and everyonr else involved
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yet batch made three bad errors in the first quarter and it was only bad kicking that it didn't result in three goals.
but you only focus on those you dislike.
while those you like you ignore their mistakes
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I don't like Bach. He's as much a potato as the rest
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so why defend his bad mistakes by saying he played a good game on someone you describe as rubbish, yet concentrate on hampsons one major blunder
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Cause it was 400 yards away from me and i didn't bring my telescope
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:lol
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Serviceable again.
He missed those two goals but at least he was taking marks in the forward line, something Ivan was unable to do.
I would drop Ivan and bring in Griff/Bean.
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Need to keep in the team to combat Sandilands. Can't have him dominating like he did last time. At least I can see Hampson giving a contest against him. Maric is no contest for him.
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Need to keep in the team to combat Sandilands. Can't have him dominating like he did last time. At least I can see Hampson giving a contest against him. Maric is no contest for him.
Yep I agree with this. Happy for Hampson to play his role where needed.
Maric could do with any rest available leading towards the end of the year.
I'd also like to see Griff return if available and McBean join the 3 pronged attack and give us better structure in the forward line.
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Resting ivan against Hawks and freo.
:facepalm
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Chaplin, maric, hampson on the ground together, vs the hawks...
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Stalin, I don't even listen to your posts now.
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Resting ivan against Hawks and freo.
:facepalm
What structure would you go with Ox?
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Stalin, I don't even listen to your posts now.
How many big slow blokes u want in the 18 at the same time
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Resting ivan against Hawks and freo.
:facepalm
What structure would you go with Ox?
Newman out.
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Resting ivan against Hawks and freo.
:facepalm
What structure would you go with Ox?
Newman out.
Woudln't go with Griff (if available) or McBean (5 snags for the 2s)?
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My problem with the bean child is, he's no good at afl level.
He could come in and fluff the faux structure that is somewhat operable.
Griffiths is a pet of mine but Hampson simply needs to add conversion to his game to be offering more at the current time. He needs to do it this week.
Hampson and Maric worked well together. Two big strong idiots.
Let that develop.
Gotta roll the dice eventually
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My problem with the bean child is, he's no good at afl level.
He could come in and fluff the faux structure that is somewhat operable.
Griffiths is a pet of mine but Hampson simply needs to add conversion to his game to be offering more at the current time. He needs to do it this week.
Hampson and Maric worked well together. Two big strong idiots.
Let that develop.
Gotta roll the dice eventually
Fair enough. I'm not really sure, but I would drop Maric and bring in one (or both) of the other two.
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Hampson interview ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-07-23/hampsons-return
* I actually think this is the best footy I’ve probably played. It’s been a very consistent year in the VFL.
* Being sort of new to the game when I was drafted, I think it was always going to take a little bit of time to develop into a consistent performer. It’s maybe taken a little bit longer than I would have liked but that’s just the way it is. I started playing footy when I was 16, so it was a bit of a different start for me and there’s a lot to learn – skills, positioning, mental toughness as well. All those things are so important, especially for a position like the ruck, which is the last true one-on-one contest on the ground.
* I haven’t had a great run with injuries. I’ve had some pretty serious injuries that I’ve had to battle through and that hasn’t let me get the consistency in my footy. I think at times, in years past, I’ve had good patches of football which have sometimes been interrupted by injuries. The last two years my body’s been really good and I’m just trying to look after it – rehab, prehab, all the stuff that they want you doing – and it’s been really good.
* I feel like I’m finally maturing and I’m feeling strong. I know I’ve still got a lot more in me as well. It’s just about working hard at training. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. All I’ve got to focus on is contributing to the team, playing my role and, at the end of the day, that’s what’s going to keep me in the team.
* Ivan and I haven’t played together too much. I think there were maybe two games last year and the St Kilda game last weekend was the second game this year. We’ve got to get that sort of team atmosphere, where he’s forward or I’m forward, we switch. It’s going to take time but it’s getting there. We’ve got an opportunity where we can both play some good time in the ruck and both play a little bit of time forward and so we get to save our legs and hopefully work the opposition ruckman over a bit. Ivan always dominant in the ruck when he’s in there and between us we do alright in the hit-outs and hopefully have a bit of an impact forward as well. That’s the plan anyway.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-07-24/hampson-a-late-bloomer
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(https://xifin.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/rotten_spud.png)
Not just a spud but a rotten spud.
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:clapping
Best post youve done for 5 years
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Hamspud's so crap he even turns Chucky into a darksider....
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Hamspud's so crap he even turns Chucky into a darksider....
Yeah I make special exemptions for the big spud
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Hamspud's so crap he even turns Chucky into a darksider....
Sorry but that club is reserved for adults.
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Not just a spud but a rotten spud.
Does that spud apply to Vickery as well. Or is vickery just a spud who is not rotten. fmd Hampson had a bigger physical presence. :o
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Hamspud's so crap he even turns Chucky into a darksider....
Sorry but that club is reserved for adults.
then why does the club have a combined IQ of 97? You'll be proud to know you are %7 of that 97 :)
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(https://xifin.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/rotten_spud.png)
Not just a spud but a rotten spud.
Does that spud apply to Vickery as well. Or is vickery just a spud who is not rotten. fmd Hampson had a bigger physical presence. :o
Knocking over your own teammates, dropping simple chest marks and punching the ball into the most dangerous area of defensive 50 isn't a bigger physical presence but whatever floats your boat
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Again, the worst player in the comp and its a disgrace he plays for our mighty club :banghead
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(https://xifin.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/rotten_spud.png)
Not just a spud but a rotten spud.
Does that spud apply to Vickery as well. Or is vickery just a spud who is not rotten. fmd Hampson had a bigger physical presence. :o
Knocking over your own teammates, dropping simple chest marks and punching the ball into the most dangerous area of defensive 50 isn't a bigger physical presence but whatever floats your boat
I think santa's confusing "presence" with "hindrance".....
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(https://xifin.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/rotten_spud.png)
Not just a spud but a rotten spud.
Does that spud apply to Vickery as well. Or is vickery just a spud who is not rotten. fmd Hampson had a bigger physical presence. :o
Knocking over your own teammates, dropping simple chest marks and punching the ball into the most dangerous area of defensive 50 isn't a bigger physical presence but whatever floats your boat
I think santa's confusing "presence" with "hindrance".....
Hmm one has a presence but is a hindrance with it. the other if not a hindrance a liability because he has no presence.Makes both of em spuds.
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Angus graham >
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Blokes who are duds and know it just train and then injure themselves....like Hampson and conca.
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i blame 2 people in all of this. Hardwick and B Hackley.
How can 2 wankers be so stuffin poo at their job, where your average joe knew this bloke was a dud from his carlton days.
He has occupied a spot which would have been better served elsewhere. Its also probably one of the reasons we didnt go for a Zac Smith, which still ranks as one of the most ridiculous decisions in recent years.
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Zac Smith
LBurger
Kreuzer
:facepalm
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But we got a bloke who has never played footy before
Go the Soldo project.
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i blame 2 people in all of this. Hardwick and B Hackley.
How can 2 wankers be so stuffin poo at their job, where your average joe knew this bloke was a dud from his carlton days.
He has occupied a spot which would have been better served elsewhere. Its also probably one of the reasons we didnt go for a Zac Smith, which still ranks as one of the most ridiculous decisions in recent years.
I'm still flabbergasted as to why they didn't target a ruckman in the off season.
They must of still been watching replays of Hampsuds only passible performances which were those games against us when he was still with the cheats. :banghead
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Blokes who are duds and know it just train and then injure themselves....like Hampson and conca.
:gobdrop :gobdrop. Hampson may make Angus Graham look like Dean Cox - but that post is not your finest work.
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He's actually much better than Maric in the H/O area. He's just so hopeless in every other facet of the game that it doesn't matter.
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Would be a handy netball or volleyball player
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He's actually much better than Maric in the H/O area.
Is he really though....how often does he actually tap it to advantage?
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He's actually much better than Maric in the H/O area.
Is he really though....how often does he actually tap it to advantage?
I look at it another way. How often does he stop the opposition ruckman from hitting it to his teams advantage? Quite a lot I would think. Too bad he can't play football.
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He's actually much better than Maric in the H/O area.
Is he really though....how often does he actually tap it to advantage?
Hitout to advantage win % was 15.5 last year. League average was 12% and Maric was 9.9%.
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He's actually much better than Maric in the H/O area.
Is he really though....how often does he actually tap it to advantage?
I look at it another way. How often does he stop the opposition ruckman from hitting it to his teams advantage? Quite a lot I would think. Too bad he can't play football.
This is right also. By the shear volume of h/o's he wins (51.7%, 3rd in the league) the opposition ruck wins less h/o's and therefore less to advantage
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They don't need to hit as many to the advantage of their mids when Hamspud's doing it for them half the time...
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They don't need to hit as many to the advantage of their mids when Hamspud's doing it for them half the time...
No question he's a spud. He cost us goals in numerous different, and comical, ways on Thursday. I think it's fairly clear though he's a better tap ruck than Maric
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They don't need to hit as many to the advantage of their mids when Hamspud's doing it for them half the time...
No question he's a spud. He cost us goals in numerous different, and comical, ways on Thursday. I think it's fairly clear though he's a better tap ruck than Maric
Is there a stat for hitouts to oppositions advantage? I'd think he'd be close to best in the world at this.
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I can understand what Megan Gale sees in him, but not what the recruiters saw in him.
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I would have thought from a male's point of view, the recruiting of Hampson was purely to get Megan Gale as a WAG, especially now that Pia Miller has gone.
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Dimma's presser today:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-22/hardwick-presser-march-22
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Hardwick backs Hampson to shoulder the load in the ruck
AFL.com.au
March 22, 2016
RICHMOND has backed former Blue Shaun Hampson to shoulder its ruck division in Thursday night's clash against Carlton with No.1 big man Ivan Maric all but ruled out of the contest.
Hampson, who crossed to Richmond in 2013 after 63 games with Carlton, is set to lead the club's midfield with Maric likely to miss the game with a back complaint.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said the 28-year-old was ready for the responsibility in the ruck after showing solid form in the club's last NAB Challenge game against Port Adelaide.
"We're really excited to see what he has to offer. He has elite numbers from a hit-out perspective," Hardwick said of Hampson on Tuesday.
"We sort of haven't had that. We're looking forward to what he can give us. He's going to give us first use of the ball we feel for the majority of the night. We're going to ride Shaun and see how he goes.
"He'll definitely play. He had a pretty good game versus Port Adelaide, it was his first hit-out, so we're looking forward to him getting out there."
After playing 22 games last season, Maric looks likely to start 2016 on the sidelines as he nurses a back injury.
"He's probably doubtful at this stage. We'll see how he goes today. I'm not even quite sure if he'll train today, he might do a little bit tomorrow. At this stage he's probably doubtful," Hardwick said ahead of training on Tuesday morning.
The Tigers have a number of injury concerns in the lead-up to the season-opening game, with Brett Deledio (quad), Reece Conca (hamstring) and recruit Chris Yarran (foot) already ruled out of the contest.
Yarran was at the club's Punt Road headquarters on Tuesday before hobbling to a waiting car on crutches following foot surgery on Monday.
Hardwick said the setback, which will see the former Blue unavailable for senior selection for about two months, might be a "blessing in disguise".
"He's been not able to train at AFL intensity with the plantar fascia [injury], so we're probably pleased that he has had the operation done. Now he can move on," Hardwick said.
"He's a long-term prospect for us. We're pleased he can get the operation done and he'll be able to help us in the back end of the year. We're excited by what he's going to bring."
Hardwick said first-round draft pick Daniel Rioli was a chance to debut against the Blues after encouraging form in the pre-season series, with the 18-year-old one of several players who could benefit from the Tigers' injury issues.
"Obviously we've got a couple of injuries but the great thing about our footy club at the moment is we've got significant depth. We're pleased to give some of those guys an opportunity," the coach said.
"There's certainly some players who we'd like to have available but the reality is they can't help us this week so we move on pretty quickly."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-22/hardwick-backs-hampson-to-shoulder-the-load
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Bolton also backs Hamspud in the ruck.
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"....elite numbers from a hitout perspective..", yes we know he is a good tap ruckman but he is a one trick pony, the rest of his game is well below AFL standard and thats what worries every Tiger's supporter when he has to be picked in the side.
Obviously he just doesn't have the ability to step up his game because around the ground I see no improvement since the sorry day he arrived at the club.
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Reckon Hampson will kill them on Thursday
Those who attend training would know why
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Who is carltonsruckman?
Just Kreuzer?
Pimples and someone else?
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Screw graham let's use Zac Smith or luey.
Bloody loser u are Hardwick and ur logic
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"If you watch training ..."
It's worked for me.
World hitout to advantage and two goals :shh
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Screw graham let's use Zac Smith or luey.
Bloody loser u are Hardwick and ur logic
>:(
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Jackstar saw something 12 months ago. He said Richmond could win the premiership.
Obviously we didn't.....but there were times it legitimately felt within reach.
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Well this is the only fixture he's ever played well in..... :shh
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Jackstar saw something 12 months ago. He said Richmond could win the premiership.
Obviously we didn't.....but there were times it legitimately felt within reach.
Ruckman are late developers
:shh
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I would he preferred Vickery/chol/Griffiths/McBean combination
One day
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Hampson wins hitouts to advantage ...
Just needs to get around and compete more!
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Oh dear ::)
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Hampson wins hitouts to advantage ...
Just needs to get around and compete more!
Are there facts to back this up?
He wins hitouts but to who's advantage?
I think it's a lottery with the rotten spud and he can't get around the ground to compete more because he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
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Hampson wins hitouts to advantage ...
Just needs to get around and compete more!
Are there facts to back this up?
He wins hitouts but to who's advantage?
I think it's a lottery with the rotten spud and he can't get around the ground to compete more because he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
In 2014 I found this stat..
"This year, he wins a hitout-to-advantage at 20.7 per cent of ruck contests he attends, which is ranked second only to Fremantle’s Aaron Sandilands, who achieves that feat at 21.4 per cent."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/shaun-hampsons-great-form-as-a-tap-ruckman-creates-a-dilemma-for-richmond/story-fni5f0at-1226889311360
:rollin
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Propaganda EFC style.
If you're buying into him, then you're one of the idiots who keep paying the club the remain duds.
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I would he preferred Vickery/chol/Griffiths/McBean combination
One day
Has McBean ever played in the ruck , :huh
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Propaganda EFC style.
If you're buying into him, then you're one of the idiots who keep paying the club the remain duds.
FFS. Someone asked for stats and I found some. Just because they don't agree with your point of view doesn't mean they're wrong.
I personally think Hampson is a spud of the highest order as a footballer but I do think when it comes to pure tap work he is the best we have at the club currently. Unfortunately he can't do anything else.
So just take your finger off the trigger and don't personally attack a poster who simply supplied stats that were asked for!
Sheeshhhhh!
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I would he preferred Vickery/chol/Griffiths/McBean combination
One day
Has McBean ever played in the ruck , :huh
certainly has @ VFL level & did in the praccy game last Friday
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Propaganda EFC style.
If you're buying into him, then you're one of the idiots who keep paying the club the remain duds.
FFS. Someone asked for stats and I found some. Just because they don't agree with your point of view doesn't mean they're wrong.
I personally think Hampson is a spud of the highest order as a footballer but I do think when it comes to pure tap work he is the best we have at the club currently. Unfortunately he can't do anything else.
So just take your finger off the trigger and don't personally attack a poster who simply supplied stats that were asked for!
Sheeshhhhh!
Wasn't aimed at you my friend.
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Propaganda EFC style.
If you're buying into him, then you're one of the idiots who keep paying the club the remain duds.
FFS. Someone asked for stats and I found some. Just because they don't agree with your point of view doesn't mean they're wrong.
I personally think Hampson is a spud of the highest order as a footballer but I do think when it comes to pure tap work he is the best we have at the club currently. Unfortunately he can't do anything else.
So just take your finger off the trigger and don't personally attack a poster who simply supplied stats that were asked for!
Sheeshhhhh!
Wasn't aimed at you my friend.
:booboo
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Facts are Hampson is a very good tap ruckman
Shame there's more to do than that on gameday
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Does he have any friends at the club?
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Facts are Hampson is a very good tap ruckman
Facts are Hampson is a very crap ruckman
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Propaganda EFC style.
If you're buying into him, then you're one of the idiots who keep paying the club the remain duds.
FFS. Someone asked for stats and I found some. Just because they don't agree with your point of view doesn't mean they're wrong.
I personally think Hampson is a spud of the highest order as a footballer but I do think when it comes to pure tap work he is the best we have at the club currently. Unfortunately he can't do anything else.
So just take your finger off the trigger and don't personally attack a poster who simply supplied stats that were asked for!
Sheeshhhhh!
You'd do well to ask permission to use the word sheeeesh.
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Reckon Hampson will kill them on Thursday
Those who attend training would know why
He's been killing me since he joined the club
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LOL people talk as if we actually have other options.
As poor as Hamspud is, he is a far better ruck option than Chol, Vickery, McBean and Griffiths. Ah tiger supporters they thrive on delusion.
Lol we lose our best ruckman who is nothing more than a solid citizen and look at the options its hilarious.
Ahh we reap what we sow eh.
I can see a similar thing happening with our tall fwds when Riewoldt goes down or for that matter with the defenders when Rance goes down. And we are supposed to be a freakin top 4 side hhhhaaarrrrgggghhhh delusion is grand.
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If Hampson isn't the worst player in the afl he is in the bottom 3
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If Hamspud plays more than eight games this year then we won't be making finals
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Errrrrr4rrrrrghhhgh
LOL people talk as if we actually have other options.
As poor as Hamspud is, he is a far better ruck option than Chol, Vickery, McBean and Griffiths. Ah tiger supporters they thrive on delusion.
Lol we lose our best ruckman who is nothing more than a solid citizen and look at the options its hilarious.
Ahh we reap what we sow eh.
I can see a similar thing happening with our tall fwds when Riewoldt goes down or for that matter with the defenders when Rance goes down. And we are supposed to be a freakin top 4 side hhhhaaarrrrgggghhhh delusion is grand.
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If the ruck role just involved jumping and tapping the ball claw might be on to something
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Errrrrr4rrrrrghhhgh
LOL people talk as if we actually have other options.
As poor as Hamspud is, he is a far better ruck option than Chol, Vickery, McBean and Griffiths. Ah tiger supporters they thrive on delusion.
Lol we lose our best ruckman who is nothing more than a solid citizen and look at the options its hilarious.
Ahh we reap what we sow eh.
I can see a similar thing happening with our tall fwds when Riewoldt goes down or for that matter with the defenders when Rance goes down. And we are supposed to be a freakin top 4 side hhhhaaarrrrgggghhhh delusion is grand.
argegghhhhhhhhhh I HATE stuffing HATE RICHMOND WITH A PASSION
ARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Honestly how bad is this spud , anyone who backed Hampson needs to be taken out the back and shot
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Honestly how bad is this spud , anyone who backed Hampson needs to be taken out the back and shot
Very bad
He doesn't try and mark, just slaps his hands at the ball
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Honestly how bad is this spud , anyone who backed Hampson needs to be taken out the back and shot
He was great. obviously you didn't watch him train
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Honestly how bad is this spud , anyone who backed Hampson needs to be taken out the back and shot
He was great. obviously you didn't watch him train
LOL yeh how funny is that
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Honestly how bad is this spud , anyone who backed Hampson needs to be taken out the back and shot
He was great. obviously you didn't watch him train
:lol. He certainly was one of Carlscums best as he fed their midfielders on most occasions.
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zero kicks
until Megan missed the set shot from 15 out in front
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Dumma thought he was really good tonight. :facepalm :pullhair
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The reason we e no other better s is because idiot dimmer doesn't other getting one.
Best coach ever.
Loves Hampson.
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Is it asking the coaching staff too much to give the spud some goalkicking practice 20 metres out. Surely any person who gets paid to play AFL should be able to do much better. He surely cant just continue to tap to the opposition midfielders and then not worry about any other aspects of his game. Cant see the difference between him and a 7ft US basketballer to be honest.
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You're all too harsh. He took a mark in defense tonight and it almost overhead.
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Yes it is as its this same coaching staff who believe he can fill a role when Maric is out.
They are a dilusional bunch down there
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If any of his hit outs go to advantage, it's certainly not by design....around the ground he's a just a big inanimate log, a giant, slow, white JON...the marking skills of a double amputee and to top it all off, he kicks for goal like John Butcher....he's a Frankenstein creation composite of duds....as an AFL-listed footballer, he's a season-long April Fool's joke....
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Bring back Angus Graham
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Give McBean a run in the Ruck. This guy is the worst Ruckmen ever.
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If any of his hit outs go to advantage, it's certainly not by design....around the ground he's a just a big inanimate log, a giant, slow, white JON...the marking skills of a double amputee and to top it all off, he kicks for goal like John Butcher....he's a Frankenstein creation composite of duds....as an AFL-listed footballer, he's a season-long April Fool's joke....
Some good points there.
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Dumma thought he was really good tonight. :facepalm :pullhair
Really?
Listened to the presser said he was good in the final qtr but never said really good for the entire game
Give McBean a run in the Ruck. This guy is the worst Ruckmen ever.
Having watched just over a qtr of the VFL praccy game yesterday...er...no...McBean played in the ruck a bit and was very ordinary (IMESHO)
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Just play a man down
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Bring back Ray Hall.
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Have look at the type of quality rucks that have been traded or free agencies across to other clubs over the last 2-3 years, and the fact that our ruck stock are the way they are is a disgrace
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Have look at the type of quality rucks that have been traded or free agencies across to other clubs over the last 2-3 years, and the fact that our ruck stock are the way they are is a disgrace
I agree
I notice that a number of people blame Hardwick
Blame Blair, he traded (read did the deal, including recommended contract) to get Hampson, when we could have got McEvoy, Longer or a number of others. Actually Jon Giles ( the GWS version ;D) would have been a better and cheaper option
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Just play a man down
with him in we already do
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Just play a man down
with him in we already do
Yeh but we wouldn't have to watch him taking up field space like steaming turd
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Essendon rucks are better than ours.
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Obviously
Lburger is very handy
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RIchmond r a basket case.
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Essendon rucks are better than ours.
Name a weaker ruck combo in the league than Maric and Hampson.
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Should never play in a tigers jumper again!
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The coach sees him as adequate.
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Not a ruckmans behind hole
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No surprise he missed that critical goal. Maric would never miss that.
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Zero confidence. Can't perform in public.
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The whole ruck situation is diabolical.
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The whole ruck situation is diabolical.
Yep.
One crippled ruckman. One ruckman playing like a cripple. :whistle
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I agree
I notice that a number of people blame Hardwick
Blame Blair, he traded (read did the deal, including recommended contract) to get Hampson, when we could have got McEvoy, Longer or a number of others. Actually Jon Giles ( the GWS version ;D) would have been a better and cheaper option
Personally would have loved any of those blokes over our current situation.
I was really keen on Giles too but got laughed at a lot for suggesting him at the time.
Heck even that Andrew Phillips kid from GWS was one of four kids and a top pick traded to Carlton for a some pretty garbage picks. We really could have traded out our lower picks last year for points value alone...
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Hartley is just a stuffn smartarse
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Hartley is just a stuffn smartarse
Almost single handedly (along with Tardwick) has ruined our chance at a proper tilt at a flag during the 2010's.
And he knows it. Pick 28 for Hampson? GAGF imposter.
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Hartley is just a stuffn smartarse
Almost single handedly (along with Tardwick) has ruined our chance at a proper tilt at a flag during the 2010's.
And he knows it. Pick 28 for Hampson? GAGF imposter.
Think you may be letting FJ off a tad.
Pick 6 for Conca with Heppell still available beats pick 28 for Hampson.
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Hartley is just a stuffn smartarse
Almost single handedly (along with Tardwick) has ruined our chance at a proper tilt at a flag during the 2010's.
And he knows it. Pick 28 for Hampson? GAGF imposter.
Think you may be letting FJ off a tad.
Pick 6 for Conca with Heppell still available beats pick 28 for Hampson.
Point taken. Essendon couldn't believe their luck hey
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Yes 'luck'
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If any of his hit outs go to advantage, it's certainly not by design....around the ground he's a just a big inanimate log, a giant, slow, white JON...the marking skills of a double amputee and to top it all off, he kicks for goal like John Butcher....he's a Frankenstein creation composite of duds....as an AFL-listed footballer, he's a season-long April Fool's joke....
:lol Hilarious.
:clapping
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What did we give up for this guy ? Not worth it
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#2nd rounder
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I would give a second rounder to get rid of him
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Can someone please tell me where to find the current hitouts to advantage stats?
I can't find it anywhere.
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Neutralised any impact that the blooze big man had on the game , combined with griff , we did pretty alright , ultimately winning clearances and stoppages ,,, :clapping
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Whoa...Bo's on another roll.... :clapping
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Neutralised Phillips.
Aka mr nobody
And got zero kicks.
Well blow me down with a feather.
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Worst player I have ever seen :banghead
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Whoa...Bo's on another roll.... :clapping
So we didn't win the clearances ::) and how did the blooze rucks go :o who else plays with Ivan out
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Whoa...Bo's on another roll.... :clapping
So we didn't win the clearances ::) and how did the blooze rucks go :o who else plays with Ivan out
So clearances are dependent on tap outs to advantage ::)
And who else plays - ask your brother FJ.
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Can someone please tell me where to find the current hitouts to advantage stats?
I can't find it anywhere.
Anyone?
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think you have to pay to get those stats
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Who cares just use your eyes
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Who cares just use your eyes
Bojo used his eyes though
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Who cares just use your eyes
Bojo used his eyes though
Oh well that is a worry then
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think you have to pay to get those stats
I hope not.
I just want to see the stats for myself because I don't believe it.
The consensus is that at the very least he is good tap ruckman due to his high percentage of taps to advantage. But from what I have observed I don't see many effective taps to his teammates, possibly effective to the opposition though.
If anyone can let me know where to find this mysterious hitouts to advantage stats I would greatly appreciate it.
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Maybe taps to nobody are counted as taps to advantage.
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I think he is a spud of the highest order but he did actually start palming the ball our way in the last quarter which helped us get a few crucial clearances.
Still not enough in my eyes for a game but our ruck stocks are so incredibly thin that he'll probably get selected for that reason alone for Friday's game against the pies.
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I think he is a spud of the highest order but he did actually start palming the ball our way in the last quarter which helped us get a few crucial clearances.
Still not enough in my eyes for a game but our ruck stocks are so incredibly thin that he'll probably get selected for that reason alone for Friday's game against the pies.
my sphincter hurts when its a thrown in the defensive 50
and megan knocks it 'inside' to the corridor
it comes off sometimes as it opens up the game. risky
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Big, useless dopey stuff.
Like a fit version of Andrew Browne.
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At least Browne had a ticker
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At least Browne had a ticker
He had a bit of go didn't he?
Hampson is like a turd in a millpond in comparison
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His ticker wouldn't allow him to run for more than 7 seconds
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It makes so sad inside
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The last time RIchmond had decent ruck was Ottens then maybe Stafford.
The club hasn't seen this area as in in need of attention since.
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The last time RIchmond had decent ruck was Ottens then maybe Stafford.
The club hasn't seen this area as in in need of attention since.
I'd go to even say that an elite ruckman is the most important player you could have in your team. This is because you then play with all 18 players contributing to the play. Poor ruckmen mean that you are one player down.
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No doubt.
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But we need to hear what Petey thinks to know for sure.
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The last time RIchmond had decent ruck was Ottens then maybe Stafford.
The club hasn't seen this area as in in need of attention since.
I'd go to even say that an elite ruckman is the most important player you could have in your team. This is because you then play with all 18 players contributing to the play. Poor ruckmen mean that you are one player down.
an alex rance for me
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First use of the ball.
That's it.
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each to his own i spose
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The last time RIchmond had decent ruck was Ottens then maybe Stafford.
The club hasn't seen this area as in in need of attention since.
I'd go to even say that an elite ruckman is the most important player you could have in your team. This is because you then play with all 18 players contributing to the play. Poor ruckmen mean that you are one player down.
an alex rance for me
Just imagine an Alex Rance that was 205 cm.......
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I think he is a spud of the highest order but he did actually start palming the ball our way in the last quarter which helped us get a few crucial clearances.
Still not enough in my eyes for a game but our ruck stocks are so incredibly thin that he'll probably get selected for that reason alone for Friday's game against the pies.
I just watch the last quarter again & I counted 1 lucky hitout to adv that resulted in a clearance early in the quarter and 1 tap to adv at a boundary throw in toward the end of the quarter. So possible 2 clearances from his tap work. Besides that he had a free kick 15 metres out and a strong mark in defence. Griffiths had a long stint in the ruck also in the last quarter.
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I think he is a spud of the highest order but he did actually start palming the ball our way in the last quarter which helped us get a few crucial clearances.
Still not enough in my eyes for a game but our ruck stocks are so incredibly thin that he'll probably get selected for that reason alone for Friday's game against the pies.
I just watch the last quarter again & I counted 1 lucky hitout to adv that resulted in a clearance early in the quarter and 1 tap to adv at a boundary throw in toward the end of the quarter. Besides that he had a free kick 15 metres out and a strong mark in defence. Griffiths had a long stint in the ruck also in the last quarter.
I didn't say he dominated! ;D
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Dimma said he was on top in the last. Suppose the coach saying that doesn't mean poo to some :snidegrin
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dimma says a lot of poo
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Dimma said he was on top in the last. Suppose the coach saying that doesn't mean poo to some :snidegrin
Dumma says he's a good player as does Lade. Obviously Hartley thinks he's awesome also as does Robbo.
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think you have to pay to get those stats
I hope not.
I just want to see the stats for myself because I don't believe it.
The consensus is that at the very least he is good tap ruckman due to his high percentage of taps to advantage. But from what I have observed I don't see many effective taps to his teammates, possibly effective to the opposition though.
If anyone can let me know where to find this mysterious hitouts to advantage stats I would greatly appreciate it.
AFL prospectus for 2016. Shows stats wise he's elite at HO and above average at HO/A.
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think you have to pay to get those stats
I hope not.
I just want to see the stats for myself because I don't believe it.
The consensus is that at the very least he is good tap ruckman due to his high percentage of taps to advantage. But from what I have observed I don't see many effective taps to his teammates, possibly effective to the opposition though.
If anyone can let me know where to find this mysterious hitouts to advantage stats I would greatly appreciate it.
AFL prospectus for 2016. Shows stats wise he's elite at HO and above average at HO/A.
Is this something I can look up weekly or must I buy the prospectus for just an overview?
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But we need to hear what Petey thinks to know for sure.
I like lamp
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think you have to pay to get those stats
I hope not.
I just want to see the stats for myself because I don't believe it.
The consensus is that at the very least he is good tap ruckman due to his high percentage of taps to advantage. But from what I have observed I don't see many effective taps to his teammates, possibly effective to the opposition though.
If anyone can let me know where to find this mysterious hitouts to advantage stats I would greatly appreciate it.
AFL prospectus for 2016. Shows stats wise he's elite at HO and above average at HO/A.
Well, it must be a poo midfield then :snidegrin
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Re Hampson's tap to advantage on Thursday night
Page 61 of the HUN right down the bottom of the page says of his 24 hitouts 7 were to advantage
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Re Hampson's tap to advantage on Thursday night
Page 61 of the HUN right down the bottom of the page says of his 24 hitouts 7 were to advantage
To advantage of who?
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Taps to advantage must mean, if you tap the ball in the direction the team is kicking that quarter.
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
Was thinking the exact same thing at the time Loz.
How many decent enough ruckman have easily moved clubs and yet we sit on our hands. It beggars belief
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Danger and z smith for crying out load
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
Was thinking the exact same thing at the time Loz.
How many decent enough ruckman have easily moved clubs and yet we sit on our hands. It beggars belief
It's a petrification pontificating position
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Geelong got Zac Smith for a third round pick. :thumbsup
Blair thought Spud was worth a second rounder. :thumbsdown
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
I recall asking the question as to why we weren't going for someone like Zac Smith in the off season and a few posters on here laughed and said he was soft.
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
I recall asking the question as to why we weren't going for someone like Zac Smith in the off season and a few posters on here laughed and said he was soft.
Zac Smith soft? Who said that?
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How can they get it so wrong for SO LONG ?
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Danger and z smith for crying out load
Oh, and Henderson + Selwood.
Talk about list management these guy have smashed it. Traded picks/potential for mature and known quality.
Funny thing my dad watched Treloar against Sydney and said he was that much better than Pendlebury and the rest we should have just offered Cotchin to GWS for him. Makes some sense.
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Watching the Cats and Zac Smith dominate makes you realise how poorly we have recruited within our ruck division. We are so poor in this area in comparison to other final aspirants its like we give other teams a 20pt start in every game.
If we dont recruit a quality ruckman in the next draft then seriously the recruiting staff need replacing. Blind freddy can see our deficiencies in this area but the club itself seem content with what we have, quite baffling.
I recall asking the question as to why we weren't going for someone like Zac Smith in the off season and a few posters on here laughed and said he was soft.
Few people for nfi
Few people bagging hendo, praising Chaplin too
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Last 3 drafts following ruckman have moved places...
2012:
Geelong: Hamish McIntosh for pick 38
Adelaide: Angus Graham for pick 48
Brisbane: Stefan Martin pick 52 and 71
St.Kilda: Tom Hickey pick 25 and 46 for pick 13, 36 and 55
2013:
Hawthorn: Ben McEvoy for Shane Savage and Pick 18
GWS: Shane Mumford for pick 35
Richmond: Hampson for pick 28
Sydney: Tom Derickx Free Agency
St.Kilda: Billy Longer and pick 48 for pick 25 and 41
2014:
Essendon: Jonathan Giles and pick 62 for pick 53
Port Adelaide: Paddy Ryder for pick 17 and 35
2015:
Carlton: Daniel Gorringe Free Agency
Essendon: Matthew Leunberger Free Agency
Geelong: Zac Smith pick 49 and 53
Gold Coast: Daniel Currie pick 53
Worst ruckman in the lot, Hampson. Yet we payed the most 'overs' out of any trade for a ruckman in the last 4 years.
Geelong have cleaned up, McIntosh and Smith for picks 35, 49 and 53... Stefan Martin trade and Billy longer trade been genius. As well as Tom Hickey.
Hampson trade is an absolute disgrace when you look at the rest of them.
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GWS: Shane Mumford for pick 35
Richmond: Hampson for pick 28
I was shocked then
I'm shocked now
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I'm shocked to be sitting here to be honest!
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But what about the salary cap level & the player's demands? Ohhh ... that's right ... nobody knows about that stuff ... ::)
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I thought we had a war chest......
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We could have a $Billion in the bank but only 1% left in our cap when player X demands a massive front-ended contract or he's not going to sign! Its the new way of saying 'I wont play for you'!
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We could have a $Billion in the bank but only 1% left in our cap when player X demands a massive front-ended contract or he's not going to sign! Its the new way of saying 'I wont play for you'!
Spot on JPT but you open yourself up to arguments that we are paying overs for list cloggers taking up our space in the cap as well no one seeing us as a desirable destination.
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RFC just liked how he's maried to megan gale.
They wanted to replace Pia Miller.
It has nothing to do with football.
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I reckon too
Bad move cause pia is gorgeous.
Miss Hampson is masculine, almost horse like
yeh she is quite masculine looking. she looks a bit like a horse
http://www.vogue.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=51746
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We could have a $Billion in the bank but only 1% left in our cap when player X demands a massive front-ended contract or he's not going to sign! Its the new way of saying 'I wont play for you'!
Spot on JPT but you open yourself up to arguments that we are paying overs for list cloggers taking up our space in the cap as well no one seeing us as a desirable destination.
Yeah, I know. Like the sunrise these things are ... well ... inevitable. As for players who don't see us as a desirable destination, I see that as a bullet dodged! Why they want out of their current club & their AFL contract but don't want to play for a big Melbourne based club instead says plenty about their attitude & priorities too.
List cloggers? That term is just some more desperately teenage buzz-word jingoistic rubbish coined by an American idiot who knows nothing about AFL!
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List blockers is a term that comes about in a sport that is subject to drafts, salary and a system that is set up to try and make teams be successful then unsuccessful in a cyclical cycle
In such a system it is undesirable to hve a low talent, low potential player as the window will close. Unless you get a player o the calibre Of dangerfield
It is a very fair ad reasonable term
Not dissimilar from "deadwood"
desperately teenage buzz-word jingoistic rubbish... Yeah na
Look at our list. It's not a myth
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We could have a $Billion in the bank but only 1% left in our cap when player X demands a massive front-ended contract or he's not going to sign! Its the new way of saying 'I wont play for you'!
A war chest means we have room in the salary cap automatically. That's a given.
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Use the term deadwood then!
Did you see Dangerfield miss two shots at goal from 20mtrs out?
Tex Walker missed one from the corner of the goal square!
Is there a term for that?
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I reckon too
Bad move cause pia is gorgeous.
Miss Hampson is masculine, almost horse like
yeh she is quite masculine looking. she looks a bit like a horse
http://www.vogue.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=51746
Pia is seriously smokin'
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To keep track of our winning percentage when Hampson is in the side
Started off at 100%
R2 50%
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Actually it's 30% (6 wins 14 losses) since he came to Richmond.
Those wins coming against gws, Brisbane, St. Kilda and Carlton a few times.
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/S/Shaun_Hampson.html
He also for the record:-
Averages 7 disposals per game.
Averages 2.5 kicks per game.
Has kicked 1 goal 8 at a kicking accuracy of 11%
Has amassed 31 clangers
Takes a contested mark every 3.5 games.
Pick 28 people. Pick 28.
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Was talking about 2016
Get with the program
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Hampson literally hand ball to an Adelaide bloke lollol
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Never ever again
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That last centre bounce he had a completely free richmond player behind him and he knocks it fwds :banghead
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Jogs
Doesn't run
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Hudson
"Hasn't kick a goal for a couple of year :lol :lol :lol
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Yep, best game and now he's injured again.
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credit where its due he played okay today.
Its not his fault he gets picked or recruited when everyone else could see he was hopeless.
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(http://www.gymnasticbodies.com/media/GB_Motivational/GB_Mediocrity.jpg)
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What if it is limbo and you set the bar high?
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(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/mediocritydemotivator.jpeg?v=1403276062)
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He actually played good today
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injured?
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:pray
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:lol
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He actually played good today
he did play good footy today but others around him, let him down. Several of his taps went to them while our midfielders stood flat footed at times. Vickery copped a fair few heavy knocks today early which didn't help the cause.
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33%
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He actually played good today
Yep. Probably in our top 6-8 yesterday. I'd play him again next week if Maric needs more game time in the VFL.
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In the spirit of new threads here is one for placing your favorite memories of Hampson
There have been a lot in the past but on Sat it was in the first quarter where he got a mark in the back line (which is itself a worthy memory) and kicked a beautiful lace out punt.........straight to the opposition and for the life of me I couldn't see which RFC player he was trying to kick to as no one was within 20 meters of where he kicked it
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Was meant for Corey Ellis
Watch the game
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My favourite memories are the numerous misses from 20-25 out.
Trading for him is second.
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My favourite Hamspud mammaries are Megan's.....
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My favourite Hamspud mammaries are Megan's.....
:snidegrin
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Well l thought Hampson has played well the last 2 weeks considering he has not played many senior games for RFC. You just don't come into a team at the top level & adjust after 2 games. He is also carrying a niggle
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He tries hard ..
He did well ..
Even compared to 99% of afl player his output is garbage
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Apart from that awful kick I thought he was pretty good.
His tap work and mobility are better than Ivan's. I wish we could somehow combine them into one ruckman because then we'd have something decent.
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Think it was less of Hampson being good, more of everyone being shyte
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Yep, best game and now he's injured again.
credit where its due he played okay today.
He actually played good today
he did play good footy today but others around him, let him down. Several of his taps went to them while our midfielders stood flat footed at times. Vickery copped a fair few heavy knocks today early which didn't help the cause.
Yep. Probably in our top 6-8 yesterday. I'd play him again next week if Maric needs more game time in the VFL.
(http://www.screenfad.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/mb1.jpg)
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The distance between rance bad, Hampson good
Is large
Like the space between Dimma ears
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I don't know if Ivan's average output is that much higher than what Hampson's was on Saturday.
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I don't know if Ivan's average output is that much higher than what Hampson's was on Saturday.
lol. Have you been sleeping the last 3 weeks.
The bloke makes people walk tall, and when you have blokes like chaplin and grigg running around you need all the help you can get.
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I think we should play Hampson & Maric against WC. Two x half ruckmen = 1 ruckman. It might not be ideal but its better than what we have had so far this year ... :-\ Ivan may not be fit enough, but we really need him out there ... :pray
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I don't know if Ivan's average output is that much higher than what Hampson's was on Saturday.
lol. Have you been sleeping the last 3 weeks.
The bloke makes people walk tall, and when you have blokes like chaplin and grigg running around you need all the help you can get.
Yes, that leadership/inspirational factor is the key. And I am very much looking forward to Ivan's return. But in terms of their output, I don't think the difference between the two is as big as people make out. Both have big deficiencies and both have things they do well.
Either way, we will need to find a decent ruckman next summer.
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Last summer
And summer before that
It's r4 and we are getting it
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Well, Hampson has out-jumped NicNat in the past :spudnikbackflip #wishfulthinking
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf6j1IDVIAE7dpI.jpg)
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It's practically a forgone conclusion
25%
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Hampson interview:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-15/hampson-training
* He’s obviously an amazing ruckman. You can’t really plan much against Nic Nat. You’ve just got to watch a bit of the vision and see what works well against him, see what other ruckmen have done, and hopefully try to replicate that, and just limit his impact a bit.
* I had double ankle reconstructions at the end of last season, which was well overdue. That was just years of wear and tear. The body’s feeling really good. No pre-season isn’t ideal, but hopefully I can finish this season off good, and next year have a big pre-season.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-15/hampson-has-high-hopes
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Next year :huh
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Next year :huh
For the c grade Ammos I am hoping
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Can OE be censured for trolling ?
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but hopefully I can finish this season off good, and next year have a big pre-season.
:facepalm
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Scathing comment by Megan
:(
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Weak
Fairy
Bastard
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You cannot possibly blame Hampson for this debacle.
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I blame Hampson for this debacle
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You cannot possibly blame Hampson for this debacle.
Correct
I'm just blaming him for being a soft gimp that is of no use
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That's half the team.
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He is the tallest of the gimps though
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I reckon he pretends to get injuries to disguise it uselessness
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I think he faked the injury because he was getting his pants pulled down. Useless
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Mason Cox, 30 seconds in his career is already ahead of Hampson. 18 months ago Cox picked up a footy for the first time. Yet we keep playing it safe with C Grade rubbish. Year in year out..
Richmond development. No words.
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Mason Cox, 30 seconds in his career is already ahead of Hampson. 18 months ago Cox picked up a footy for the first time. Yet we keep playing it safe with C Grade rubbish. Year in year out..
Richmond development. No words.
Yep
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Mason Cox, 30 seconds in his career is already ahead of Hampson. 18 months ago Cox picked up a footy for the first time. Yet we keep playing it safe with C Grade rubbish. Year in year out..
Richmond development. No words.
Give "Chocco" an extension because everyone loves Chocco. :whistle
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The back-up: How does your club's second-string ruckman rate?
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
27 April 2016
RICHMOND
Shaun Hampson was recruited from Carlton at the end of 2013 to play second fiddle to Ivan Maric, but he has become more of an insurance policy for when injury strikes. Hampson and Maric have only played in the same team six times, but the former Blue has been particularly valuable this year with Maric struck down with a back injury. Hampson has averaged 26 hit-outs when playing at AFL level, but his lack of impact around the ground (averaging 8.05 possessions) has prevented him from becoming the No.1 man. His inability to hit the scoreboard (with an average of 0.41 goals a game) has also meant the Tigers have preferred to use tall forwards Ben Griffiths or Ty Vickery as support ruckmen when Maric is fit.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-27/the-back-up-how-do-the-second-ruckmen-rate
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Hampson is the worst. At AFL level you shouldn't be on edge when a player is kicking for goal 20m out
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Valuable?
Honestly we would have got more value assessing the potential of Chol or Soldo...
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Hammer and Maric wowee
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Hammer and Maric wowee
If we could just melt the two of them down let mixture merge into one we would have one hell of a ruckman.
Hampsons ruck work is very very good but like everyone else i lament just about every other part of his game.Ivan well he is tough has a bit of mongrel great second third efforts always competes can take a grab and kick the odd goal.
In fairness to the spud his last two games for us were pretty decent and he has not played a lot.
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Lol. They need the spud. Hahahahahaha
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Hampsons ruck work is very very good
Yeah when he's not putting it down the throats of the opposition....
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When he's not pretendingt to be hurt cause the opposition player is too good
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Hampsons ruck work is very very good
Yeah when he's not putting it down the throats of the opposition....
At least Treloar is not playing this week. :whistle
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Lobbe of Port got dropped for not doing enough around the ground , Voss said his tap work has been good . Is it just me ? But then again credit where credits due he did step up and participated around the ground before being injured.
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Hampsons ruck work is very very good
Yeah when he's not putting it down the throats of the opposition....
Isn't that the fault of the onballers
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Hampsons ruck work is very very good
Yeah when he's not putting it down the throats of the opposition....
Isn't that the fault of the onballers
Not if your tapping it down the throat of the opposition
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LMAO
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Lobbe is a donkey. Like Hampson but without the tap work.
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Lol
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Lobbe is a donkey. Like Hampson but without the tap work.
Didn't we make a play for him a couple of years ago and he stayed because they made him vice captain?
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Lobbe is a donkey. Like Hampson but without the tap work.
Didn't we make a play for him a couple of years ago and he stayed because they made him vice captain?
I believe so. Scary stuff. Our love affair with Poot Adelaide makes me feel a bit ill.
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Lobbe is a donkey. Like Hampson but without the tap work.
Didn't we make a play for him a couple of years ago and he stayed because they made him vice captain?
I believe so. Scary stuff. Our love affair with Poot Adelaide makes me feel a bit ill.
Hopefully this love affair with Port will be part of the new review...
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Brain damaged
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3rd quarter we were away and it all it needed was a Hampson handpass two either of two tigers,but no he stuffed it. Somehow the ball came back to Hampson but not from his effort and once again we were out if he could just stuffing handpass the stuffing thing.........but sure enough he stuffed it again.....what a stuffing muppet
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20%
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That time he played against us and tore us apart
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Post in the Hampson memories please
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Was limping before the opening bounce.
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Was born limp
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That time he played against us and tore us apart
:lol :rollin :lol
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3rd quarter we were away and it all it needed was a Hampson handpass two either of two tigers,but no he stuffed it. Somehow the ball came back to Hampson but not from his effort and once again we were out if he could just stuffing handpass the stuffing thing.........but sure enough he stuffed it again.....what a stuffing muppet
:lol
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Hey guys. I'm still at the G.
Everyone seems to have left but I'm waiting till Hampson kicks his 4 goals. :rollin
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Again, the worst player i have ever seen..........and he gets a game for us :banghead
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Hey guys. I'm still at the G.
Everyone seems to have left but I'm waiting till Hampson kicks his 4 goals. :rollin
Head out to the car park
He's slotting them between the trees
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Was limping before the opening bounce.
Not his fault
Did better than Ivan
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Was limping before the opening bounce.
Not his fault
Did better than Ivan
They were both very poor
Actually make that extremely poor
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Was limping before the opening bounce.
Not his fault
Did better than Ivan
Yes he did but please, he is the worst footy player on a list today :banghead THE WORST!Only at Richmond......... :help
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every person who watches AFL knows his been injured all year.
Muppet should never get another game ever
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Again, the worst player i have ever seen..........and he gets a game for us :banghead
Morris a very close second.
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Again, the worst player i have ever seen..........and he gets a game for us :banghead
Morris a very close second.
I think Chaplin has him covered :whistle
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/Gifs/140915_gif_4.gif)
Lest we forget.
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Hamspud > chap flog
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Brain damaged
I liked how he started limping everytime he got beaten. :clapping
Was limping before the opening bounce.
Not his fault
Did better than Ivan
True, no one has any control over how much talent they are born with.
Doesn't change that he is a spaco and that you cant pick the quality of rucks
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Hamspud > chap flog
That is just delusional.
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Hampson might have been poor but based off last night I'd play him ahead of Maric at this point :'(
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Hamspud > chap flog
That is just delusional.
I hate Hampson
Yet Chaplin is so bad it's amazing .
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Hampson is not the future. Start culling now.
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No amount of tapwork can cancel out the liabilty he is around the ground. We're playing a man down in general play every time he's picked.
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Hamspud > chap flog
That is just delusional.
I hate Hampson
Yet Chaplin is so bad it's amazing .
Hampson is so bad he makes Chaplin almost look passable.
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Hampson might have been poor but based off last night I'd play him ahead of Maric at this point :'(
Correct
Post of the week !!
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No amount of tapwork can cancel out the liabilty he is around the ground. We're playing a man down in general play every time he's picked.
You obviously didn't watch no 20 last night
Hopeless
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:facepalm
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What is clear here, is that Hampson was nice to JJ one day. maybe rubbed the top of his head in a friendly manner as he cleaned hammers boots?
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Bloke is clueless, despite all the effort he invests. Great physique for footy but what a shame he hasn't got it between the ears.
If he had Maric's footy brain or Maric had his body we'd have a reasonable ruckman but alas they're both stuffed in at least one area.
So it's time to go ruckman hunting. After seeing the likes of Sinclair, Currie, Leuenberger and Smith move clubs relatively cheaply last year who can we go after?
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Hampson might have been poor but based off last night I'd play him ahead of Maric at this point :'(
Correct
Post of the week !!
Of all the pressing issues being discussed, playing hampson ahead of Maric is 'post of the week'?
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He will get a game next week
Poor Ivan can't even jump
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but he is capable of marking and kicking.
All hampson can do is jump - pity we are not playing hopscotch
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Or jump rope
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Is it too early too call next weeks 16.67 yet?
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i recon ham n potatoes would constantly get caught in the rope
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High jump
The world is his oyster, really
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yeah, at least you dont have to catch an oyster
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Fancy how many times his stupid baby was dropped :whistle
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which is why they never called the baby Mark
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:clapping
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:clapping :clapping
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What is clear here, is that Hampson was nice to JJ one day. maybe rubbed the top of his head in a friendly manner as he cleaned hammers boots?
How did you know 😉
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which is why they never called the baby Mark
Well played.
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/Gifs/140915_gif_4.gif)
Lest we forget.
Worst part is that gif doesn't show how truly awful that was and that's saying something
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Stuff it I'm calling it now
16.67%
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This is my favourite thread
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Stuff it I'm calling it now
0.1667%
EFA
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Have it on good authority that he's trained the house down this week and is on target to kick a bag*. :shh
*Megan's Prada as he trips over it and sprains his ankle....
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Did I just see what I thought I seen?
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Yes you did.
Did it also get your attention that he is dominating McEvoy so much in the hitouts that the Hawks are reduced to scragging him out of the contest and regularly jumping a third while holding him down?
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No it was a mirage
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Less than a minute to go in the third quarter and less than a goal in it, Hawks went into attack but the tiges were one and one and had them covered, but oh no Hampson was on their ruckman and somehow lost him with no one within cooee, and sure enough their ruckman marks and kicks a goal.
Thanks for the memories
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No-one wants to talk about that spud
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Took an overhead mark tonight.
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Took an overhead mark tonight.
It was an accident
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He is a better option than Maric
At least he taps to the onballers
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:facepalm
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Played ok Hammer tonight
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Played ok Hammer tonight
If only we had two of him, hell why not three: one for the forward line, one for the back line and one to ruck.
It would be an orgasmical delight
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Played ok Hammer tonight
If only we had two of him, hell why not three: one for the forward line, one for the back line and one to ruck.
It would be an orgasmical delight
Don't worry, he'll kick 12 next week. The 4 from last week, the 4 from this week and another 4 for next week.
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:lol
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Played ok Hammer tonight
If only we had two of him, hell why not three: one for the forward line, one for the back line and one to ruck.
It would be an orgasmical delight
Better option than Ivan 😉
Or should we get Angus Graham back from WA ,😜😜😜
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:facepalm
Hey Chuck , how did Ivan go tonight ?
Oh I forgot , he got dropped 😂😂😂
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maric is broken due to getting flogged for years instead of being well managed by the club - resting him, getting another ruck whos not an idiot to support him, play him forward more, not play him with injuries
hampson, being better than a broken down maric is not a glowing endorsement
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Effing LOL at ripping into Maric now. Everyone saw he was on a slide even 2 years ago and it still took Hampson this long to arguably be the better player
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His done everything he had to Ivan and gave it his all
it's not his fault the imbeciles at the club chose not to draft in some help for him
Hampson please. He plays at a VFL most weeks but they will extend his contract as that's the Richmond Way.
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Hampson went well last night. :thumbsup
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:facepalm
Hey Chuck , how did Ivan go tonight ?
Oh I forgot , he got dropped 😂😂😂
Well it's taken five years but if you are finally at peace with things that's good I suppose
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Watched the replay twice after the game
Seriously we got the centre clearances ,
Why ?
Hammertime
Credit where it's due
Tap work is really good and creates a contest :gotigers
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Watched the replay twice after the game
Seriously we got the centre clearances ,
Why ?
Hammertime
Credit where it's due
Tap work is really good and creates a contest :gotigers
I don't think his tap work has been the issue Jack, it's the rest of his game that sucks.
Like you said he gave our mids first use which is his primary job so good on him. It also helps when Dimma puts half decent mids in the middle.
Question for you Jack, would you give him a contract extension? If so how long? And if so, do we not try and trade another decent ruckman in? I.e.- Longer, Nichols??
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We just need a ruckman who gives us a contest
Last night proved that are onballers are good when given first use of ball
Goldstein is a freak
We just need ball brought to ground and to our advantage
Hammer gives us that at the moment
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We just need a ruckman who gives us a contest
Last night proved that are onballers are good when given first use of ball
Goldstein is a freak
We just need ball brought to ground and to our advantage
Hammer gives us that at the moment
You didn't answer the question
I don't think his tap work has been the issue Jack, it's the rest of his game that sucks.
Like you said he gave our mids first use which is his primary job so good on him. It also helps when Dimma puts half decent mids in the middle.
Question for you Jack, would you give him a contract extension? If so how long? And if so, do we not try and trade another decent ruckman in? I.e.- Longer, Nichols??
I'm not jack but I will attemp to answer BT.
No, but we might have to because the idiots that run list management haven't a clue that we needed more ruck options 3 seasons ago. We should most definitely be trading for any available ruckman that can do more than just tap the ball.
Hopefully Maric returns to form and we don't have to see the spud again but I'm not holding my breath as I think his body is stuffed.
Hopefully we can trade the spud for a decent second rounder now that everyone thinks he's an awesome player. :rollin
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I don't think his tap work has been the issue Jack, it's the rest of his game that sucks.
Yep, always has been that way ,he is actually a decent tap ruck.
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We need more than that and Hammer just doesn't bring it. How often does he a) run under the ball or b) stick his arms up and drop the mark. Last night I even saw him go up for a mark and he was looking down at the ground he was that scared of contact
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We need more than that and Hammer just doesn't bring it. How often does he a) run under the ball or b) stick his arms up and drop the mark. Last night I even saw him go up for a mark and he was looking down at the ground he was that scared of contact
All I seen was he tapping to advantage more often than not
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5 possessions. 4 effective. 1 mark. :rollin
lets not expect too much from a ruckman at Ruchmond.
I must say I did like his one clearance for the night. More of that please Spud. :clapping
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We need more than that and Hammer just doesn't bring it. How often does he a) run under the ball or b) stick his arms up and drop the mark. Last night I even saw him go up for a mark and he was looking down at the ground he was that scared of contact
All I seen was he tapping to advantage more often than not
No wonder you don't see his flaws then. OPEN YOUR EYES!
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We need more than that and Hammer just doesn't bring it. How often does he a) run under the ball or b) stick his arms up and drop the mark. Last night I even saw him go up for a mark and he was looking down at the ground he was that scared of contact
All I seen was he tapping to advantage more often than not
Is Hampson our future? NO
Is Hampson better than Maric? YES
Is Hampson more effective than Maric? YES
Has Maric past it? YES
Do Richmond need a better Ruckman? YES
Is Vickery a Ruck option???
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Had a great game last night, excellent!!!!
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Hmm had only 4 more HO's than Tippett and Kurt had 10 more possessions, 3 more tackles and kicked 2 big goals (one directly matched up on Hampson). I know what game I'd prefer.
Hammer was good with his tap outs, particularly in the last, but as the broken record says around here there's more to the game than just ho's.
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Absolute hack
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Absolute hack
Question do you go to the games ?
Amazing when he went off for a rest in last quarter Swans got the clearances
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Absolute hack
Question do you go to the games ?
Amazing when he went off for a rest in last quarter Swans got the clearances
TBH Jack we need a ruck that can tap AND take marks around the ground and even be used to kick goals. Hammer can tap. That is not even in the discussion. It is the rest of his game that is left wanting.
So we need to upgrade on him.
Just the same way we look at forwards now. We need them to kick goals and chase and tackle and try to keep the ball in the forward line. Just kicking goals isn't enough to get players games these days.
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Absolute hack
Question do you go to the games ?
Amazing when he went off for a rest in last quarter Swans got the clearances
TBH Jack we need a ruck that can tap AND take marks around the ground and even be used to kick goals. Hammer can tap. That is not even in the discussion. It is the rest of his game that is left wanting.
So we need to upgrade on him.
Just the same way we look at forwards now. We need them to kick goals and chase and tackle and try to keep the ball in the forward line. Just kicking goals isn't enough to get players games these days.
^^ This. I'd kill for a ruck that could go forward and take big marks/ kick big goals and get the ball 15 times a game.
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He was good last night so well done! We still needs an upgrade at the end of the year. I would not offer him a contract beyond this year however.
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Hmm had only 4 more HO's than Tippett and Kurt had 10 more possessions, 3 more tackles and kicked 2 big goals (one directly matched up on Hampson). I know what game I'd prefer.
Hammer was good with his tap outs, particularly in the last, but as the broken record says around here there's more to the game than just ho's.
Agree with this.
Yes he is good tap ruckman but outside of that there's. ???? Nothing and thats the problem
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worst #1 ruckman in the afl by lightyears
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Oh, so now it is about possessions ...... :huh
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Oh, so now it is about possessions ...... :huh
its about every aspect about the sport outside of jumping and tap work
which to be fair hes good at
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Oh, so now it is about possessions ...... :huh
its about every aspect about the sport outside of jumping and tap work
which to be fair hes good at
But that's different when a player is down back....they are doing their job when they only get 4 possessions, is that right??????
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Oh, so now it is about possessions ...... :huh
its about every aspect about the sport outside of jumping and tap work
which to be fair hes good at
But that's different when a player is down back....they are doing their job when they only get 4 possessions, is that right??????
But that's different when a player is down back....they are doing their job when they only get 4 possessions, is that right??????
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Can tell you Grigg was pretty good last night
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Hampson was bloody good last night and Hardwick completely stuffed up when he benched him. He was the difference in the ruck and he is always the difference with our center clearances as opposed to Maric.
Give credit where its due FFS. Hampson continually cops it here even when he really puts in the effort and performs.
Some of you have a go at me regarding Batchelor and Morris but at least I stand up and say when that they went ok last night. Get off the kill Hampson wagon and admit he was bloody good!!!
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Can tell you Grigg was pretty good last night
Would he get a game for Hawthorn?
We can do better too.
Would you give him a contract extension at years end?
As old mate DR said, "those guys can only take you so far"
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Can tell you Grigg was pretty good last night
Would he get a game for Hawthorn?
We can do better too.
Would you give him a contract extension at years end?
As old mate DR said, "those guys can only take you so far"
BT, ask those questions about 3/4 of the players in this team...
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Hampson was bloody good last night and Hardwick completely stuffed up when he benched him. He was the difference in the ruck and he is always the difference with our center clearances as opposed to Maric.
Give credit where its due FFS. Hampson continually cops it here even when he really puts in the effort and performs.
Some of you have a go at me regarding Batchelor and Morris but at least I stand up and say when that they went ok last night. Get off the kill Hampson wagon and admit he was bloody good!!!
I let it go the first time you said it but when you repeat yourself you need to be pulled up. He wasn't benched, he was taking a rest. All players do it and need it. Agreed we lost momentum but you cannot blame Hardwick for guys taking a spell. It says more about how bad Vickery is in the ruck. Just pathetic.
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Hmm had only 4 more HO's than Tippett and Kurt had 10 more possessions, 3 more tackles and kicked 2 big goals (one directly matched up on Hampson). I know what game I'd prefer.
Hammer was good with his tap outs, particularly in the last, but as the broken record says around here there's more to the game than just ho's.
Agree with this.
Yes he is good tap ruckman but outside of that there's. ???? Nothing and thats the problem
To be a good ruckman you need to do more than just win the tap outs. Furthermore the Swans do not have a good ruck division and therefore need to be cautious in evaluating his game.
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Can tell you Grigg was pretty good last night
Would he get a game for Hawthorn?
We can do better too.
Would you give him a contract extension at years end?
As old mate DR said, "those guys can only take you so far"
BT, ask those questions about 3/4 of the players in this team...
Not sure about 3/4 but those 3 need to be the first to go IMO. Along with Chalpin, Batchelor and Hunt from last nights side.
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Hampson was bloody good last night and Hardwick completely stuffed up when he benched him. He was the difference in the ruck and he is always the difference with our center clearances as opposed to Maric.
Give credit where its due FFS. Hampson continually cops it here even when he really puts in the effort and performs.
Some of you have a go at me regarding Batchelor and Morris but at least I stand up and say when that they went ok last night. Get off the kill Hampson wagon and admit he was bloody good!!!
I let it go the first time you said it but when you repeat yourself you need to be pulled up. He wasn't benched, he was taking a rest. All players do it and need it. Agreed we lost momentum but you cannot blame Hardwick for guys taking a spell. It says more about how bad Vickery is in the ruck. Just pathetic.
At the most critical time of the game eh....just like last week when Vickery was benched after we had the momentum, pattern forming???
What about the move of Vlastuin to the backline when he was killing it in center, or Griff to the backline when he was killing it in the forward line?????
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Hampson was bloody good last night and Hardwick completely stuffed up when he benched him. He was the difference in the ruck and he is always the difference with our center clearances as opposed to Maric.
Give credit where its due FFS. Hampson continually cops it here even when he really puts in the effort and performs.
Some of you have a go at me regarding Batchelor and Morris but at least I stand up and say when that they went ok last night. Get off the kill Hampson wagon and admit he was bloody good!!!
I let it go the first time you said it but when you repeat yourself you need to be pulled up. He wasn't benched, he was taking a rest. All players do it and need it. Agreed we lost momentum but you cannot blame Hardwick for guys taking a spell. It says more about how bad Vickery is in the ruck. Just pathetic.
At the most critical time of the game eh....just like last week when Vickery was benched after we had the momentum, pattern forming???
What about the move of Vlastuin to the backline when he was killing it in center, or Griff to the backline when he was killing it in the forward line?????
Come on mate, you are getting a bit excited.
All players need a rest at some stage in the quarter. Hampson had his and came back on to finish the game. And guess what!
With Vlastuin again, you cannot just be on the ball all night. You need to take a rest, sometimes on the bench and sometimes in another possition so someone else can take a rest.
And Griff was never "killing it" in the forwardline. He played a good game but let's not go to far.
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I must have had a different game on..
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I must have had a different game on..
Have you got Foxtel?
If so, it could be a possibility. :thumbsup
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:facepalm
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
Yes but it could be argued that Hammer had an influence in the dying minutes that he may not have had if he didn't have a breather. I see both sides but I think if Hammer could actually mark and kicks goals then he would rested up forward but he can't so he goes to the bench.
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
Yes but it could be argued that Hammer had an influence in the dying minutes that he may not have had if he didn't have a breather. I see both sides but I think if Hammer could actually mark and kicks goals then he would rested up forward but he can't so he goes to the bench.
:clapping
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
Thanks Damo for your .5% of input to the topic.
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
Yes but it could be argued that Hammer had an influence in the dying minutes that he may not have had if he didn't have a breather. I see both sides but I think if Hammer could actually mark and kicks goals then he would rested up forward but he can't so he goes to the bench.
It also could be argued that had he stayed on we could have kicked another 3 and sealed it.
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WAT is right 1-2% of the time and rants like a lunatic.
But in this instance he is correct.
The team had kicked 5 in 10 mins and you bench a ruck that was helping the mids dominate the clearances. It's no coincidence that the tide swung.
DONT MESS WITH MOMENTUM
Yes but it could be argued that Hammer had an influence in the dying minutes that he may not have had if he didn't have a breather. I see both sides but I think if Hammer could actually mark and kicks goals then he would rested up forward but he can't so he goes to the bench.
It also could be argued that had he stayed on we could have kicked another 3 and sealed it.
Yeah ok, you win. Well done, too good!
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I can see both sides of the argument like GR12 said. If hammer was absolutely spent then no worries, but if he was still relatively fresh but went off for pure scientific reasons, then I firmly believe that needs to be looked at and they should bring a bit of common sense into it. Momentum/adrenalin is a bit of an intangible that science does not and cannot factor into its equations.
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I can see both sides of the argument like GR12 said. If hammer was absolutely spent then no worries, but if he was still relatively fresh but went off for pure scientific reasons, then I firmly believe that needs to be looked at and they should bring a bit of common sense into it. Momentum/adrenalin is a bit of an intangible that science does not and cannot factor into its equations.
We are talking about a guy who had basically rucked the entire night without much help. It was the middle of the last quarter, I'm tipping he wasn't "relatively fresh".
And a guy that would have had limited training over the last few weeks due to a corked thigh.
I think us talking about this shows how important he was for us in that win.
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I can see both sides of the argument like GR12 said. If hammer was absolutely spent then no worries, but if he was still relatively fresh but went off for pure scientific reasons, then I firmly believe that needs to be looked at and they should bring a bit of common sense into it. Momentum/adrenalin is a bit of an intangible that science does not and cannot factor into its equations.
We are talking about a guy who had basically rucked the entire night without much help. It was the middle of the last quarter, I'm tipping he wasn't "relatively fresh".
And a guy that would have had limited training over the last few weeks due to a corked thigh.
I think us talking about this shows how important he was for us in that win.
It was about 5mins into the last wasnt it? anyhow, like I said Im impartial to it depending on how he was feeling physically. Id like to think he was stuffed and needed the rest. and yp, credit where its due, he was very important
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I can see both sides of the argument like GR12 said. If hammer was absolutely spent then no worries, but if he was still relatively fresh but went off for pure scientific reasons, then I firmly believe that needs to be looked at and they should bring a bit of common sense into it. Momentum/adrenalin is a bit of an intangible that science does not and cannot factor into its equations.
We are talking about a guy who had basically rucked the entire night without much help. It was the middle of the last quarter, I'm tipping he wasn't "relatively fresh".
And a guy that would have had limited training over the last few weeks due to a corked thigh.
I think us talking about this shows how important he was for us in that win.
It was about 5mins into the last wasnt it? anyhow, like I said Im impartial to it depending on how he was feeling physically. Id like to think he was stuffed and needed the rest. and yp, credit where its due, he was very important
:thumbsup
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I just can't believe we are talking about how important Hammer was.
Anyway, did anyone else notice how Vickery was off at the end? No one is bagging Dimma for that this week.
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I just can't believe we are talking about how important Hammer was.
Anyway, did anyone else notice how Vickery was off at the end? No one is bagging Dimma for that this week.
Had he kicked two goals in a row like last week...
Ah.... The RCGG lives.
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I just can't believe we are talking about how important Hammer was.
Anyway, did anyone else notice how Vickery was off at the end? No one is bagging Dimma for that this week.
Had he kicked two goals in a row like last week...
Ah.... The RCGG lives.
Hardly! The leader of the TVG (tunnel vision gang) is failing to see my thinly veiled criticism of Ty Vickery. Such criticism is incongruent to to being an RCGG member.
BTW, you need knew material Mr TVG.
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I just can't believe we are talking about how important Hammer was.
Anyway, did anyone else notice how Vickery was off at the end? No one is bagging Dimma for that this week.
Had he kicked two goals in a row like last week...
Ah.... The RCGG lives.
Hardly! The leader of the TVG (tunnel vision gang) is failing to see my thinly veiled criticism of Ty Vickery. Such criticism is incongruent to to being an RCGG member.
BTW, you need knew material Mr TVG.
Oh yeah, ok, you win, gee..... :snidegrin
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I just can't believe we are talking about how important Hammer was.
Anyway, did anyone else notice how Vickery was off at the end? No one is bagging Dimma for that this week.
Had he kicked two goals in a row like last week...
Ah.... The RCGG lives.
Hardly! The leader of the TVG (tunnel vision gang) is failing to see my thinly veiled criticism of Ty Vickery. Such criticism is incongruent to to being an RCGG member.
BTW, you need knew material Mr TVG.
Oh yeah, ok, you win, gee..... :snidegrin
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I can see both sides of the argument like GR12 said. If hammer was absolutely spent then no worries, but if he was still relatively fresh but went off for pure scientific reasons, then I firmly believe that needs to be looked at and they should bring a bit of common sense into it. Momentum/adrenalin is a bit of an intangible that science does not and cannot factor into its equations.
We are talking about a guy who had basically rucked the entire night without much help. It was the middle of the last quarter, I'm tipping he wasn't "relatively fresh".
And a guy that would have had limited training over the last few weeks due to a corked thigh.
I think us talking about this shows how important he was for us in that win.
TM made a good point though about adrenaline/momentum. Although he should have been wrecked, some players just find another gear when they're on a roll and get a sniff of a win and don't even realise how tired they are and do indeed feel "fresh". Chances are he was dying for a rest though, doesn't strike me as a guy who just spurs himself on such as Rance
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For all the Hampson critics have a look at the way he is going tonight.. :clapping
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So far so good :gobdrop
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So far so good :gobdrop
Until that kick into the man on the mark ;).
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stuffing please. i will pick everystuffing thing that Morris and Batch do tonight then......ffs
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Runs under the ball and misses the mark but luckily he gets pushed for the free :lol
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pinpoint pass and great mark.. :wallywink
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pinpoint pass and great mark.. :wallywink
Thought we were talking bout Hammer not Morris?
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:facepalm
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I know one thing....Clarke won't be an upgrade....
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Funniest thing was when Hampson forgot which we way we were kicking and went the wrong side of the mark :lol.
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Best game he has ever played. Looks like a professional football player :gobdrop
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Credit to him he was good tonight. Provided a contest around the ground.
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Probably helped that his main opponent was one the few players in the comp that's arguably just as bad, if not worse.....
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He has played well for the past month now
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He has played well for the past month now
:thumbsup
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:facepalm
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Thought he was good again too.
His opposition was woeful though but in fairness you can only beat them whoever they are and he did that
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Look at the games of grundy nicnac goldie.
Hamspud ain't good enough
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Look at the games of grundy nicnac goldie.
Hamspud ain't good enough
:help :scream
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He has played well for the past month now
Two games and I'd have taken Tippets game over his, so don't go getting ahead of yourself now. We've got massive issues if we are playing Hampson
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played himself into a new contract
stop, hammertime :dancing
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Lmao.
He's he best worst player at the club.
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He has played well for the past month now
l agree he has the Monk off his back now ;D He has been playing well & wins a lot of the ruck contest over the last month
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
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Lmao.
He's he best worst player at the club.
yep bottom 3 if his lucky.
but like the well oiled monkeyball machine that is ComedyFc they will surely extend his contract, a few more years on the back of the dud starting to perform at some sort of afl level after 4 years of rubbish.
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
So you didn't see the first game in 2012 v Carlton where Hampson took 4 marks and kicked 3 goals against us??
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
So you didn't see the first game in 2012 v Carlton where Hampson took 4 marks and kicked 3 goals against us??
Who was he playing on, Trent knobel?
Hamspud has been less crap yet wouldn't be the 3rd string ruckman in a top 4 side.
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
So you didn't see the first game in 2012 v Carlton where Hampson took 4 marks and kicked 3 goals against us??
Who was he playing on, Trent knobel?
Hamspud has been less crap yet wouldn't be the 3rd string ruckman in a top 4 side.
Is Ceglar (spelling?) from Hawthorn that much better than Hampson?
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
So you didn't see the first game in 2012 v Carlton where Hampson took 4 marks and kicked 3 goals against us??
Who was he playing on, Trent knobel?
Hamspud has been less crap yet wouldn't be the 3rd string ruckman in a top 4 side.
Is Ceglar (spelling?) from Hawthorn that much better than Hampson?
No, but he has Big Boy McEvoy to help him…..
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Unless we recruit a ruckman from another club I can see Hammer getting another year.
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Unless we recruit a ruckman from another club I can see Hammer getting another year.
I actually see him getting antoher year even if we do recruit wntoher ruckman :huh3
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Reckon he gets another year
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:thumbsup
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:facepalm
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“We saw him on a Friday night against West Coast, probably four or five weeks ago now, and he was corked everywhere," Carey said on Triple M.
“He stayed on the ground, and I thought that might just about be the end of him, because he was really, really struggling then.
“He’s fought his way back in and full credit to him, because he could have easily said, no, this is too hard and turned it up.
“But he hasn’t, so well done.”
“The last couple of years with injuries and stuff have been a bit tough, and my form hasn’t been great,” Hampson said on ABC Grandstand.
“But I’ve been pretty consistent this year, so I’m just in a really good head space at the moment.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-23/hammer-hits-back
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He's in good headspace. Lol.
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Can we make him captain
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Can we make him captain
Great idea
Supporters vote
He will get voted in I reckon
😉
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Hammer definitely looked the part on the weekend . I've never seen take 3 marks in a match before .
I dont think think there's any chance the old warhorse Maric can resurrect his career. He's finished.
So you didn't see the first game in 2012 v Carlton where Hampson took 4 marks and kicked 3 goals against us??
Who was he playing on, Trent knobel?
Hamspud has been less crap yet wouldn't be the 3rd string ruckman in a top 4 side.
He was playing on BBBG. Hence why I'm adamant he never goes to the back line again.
The dude will get an extension but that speaks more about our list management and awful ruck division than the skill of this nuffer
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It has taken Hampson’s 10th year in the system to finally flourish, the 201cm ruckman no Dean Cox but just a dogged tap ruckman who has seized his chance.
“He was terrific last week. I think he probably played his best game for the club (against Fremantle),’’ coach Damien Hardwick said yesterday.
“He’s had a terrifically consistent season.
“Ivan, as we know, is a real competitor ... and rucks very rarely get through unscathed, so at some stage we expect to call upon Ivan and we expect him to answer that call. He’s an important player for us.”
SHAUN HAMPSON (RICHMOND)
- Winning 48 per cent of ruck contests and 14 per cent hit-outs-to-advantage.
- This year playing 91 per cent of his games in the ruck, attending 60 ruck contests, up from 73 per cent and 40 last year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-whipping-boys-are-fighting-back-and-playing-key-roles-for-their-clubs-jon-ralph-writes/news-story/59768413b98cf0442db3268eaa9d5d08
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Unless we recruit a ruckman from another club I can see Hammer getting another year.
I actually see him getting antoher year even if we do recruit wntoher ruckman :huh3
Of course he will get another year. Surely Ivan will retire. If Ivan stays what odds we do nothing about getting another ruckman yrs end. Last time i looked they were saying we have heaps of ruckmen.
What with Ivan, Hampson, Soldo, Vickery, McBean, Griffiths, Chol, They see numbers they dont see problems or ever acknowledge what type of player each one primarily is.
Book mark it if ivan does not retire we will not take another ruckman.
Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
We all love Hammer
And so do the players 😉
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
I would agree he has been servicable lately. He still lacks in basic areas but has given a good contest in the ruck. This is probably about as good as it will get.
As usual though some are very quick to hand out the praise after a couple of half decent games when they have a 10 yr history to judge him by.It seems some are blinded by their own desperate need to see players succeed.
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
I would agree he has been servicable lately. He still lacks in basic areas but has given a good contest in the ruck. This is probably about as good as it will get.
As usual though some are very quick to hand out the praise after a couple of half decent games when they have a 10 yr history to judge him by.It seems some are blinded by their own desperate need to see players succeed.
Same could be said about Morris and Batchelor couldn't it, but they don't cop the same as Hammer do they, in fact many are so blind regarding these players they actually think they are the answer and future... :huh
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
I would agree he has been servicable lately. He still lacks in basic areas but has given a good contest in the ruck. This is probably about as good as it will get.
As usual though some are very quick to hand out the praise after a couple of half decent games when they have a 10 yr history to judge him by.It seems some are blinded by their own desperate need to see players succeed.
Same could be said about Morris and Batchelor couldn't it, but they don't cop the same as Hammer do they, in fact many are so blind regarding these players they actually think they are the answer and future... :huh
All 3 cop it
Wake up
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Think some posters should start going to the game and watch the set ups at Centre Bounces and stoppages
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But close your eyes the other 99% of the times
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But close your eyes the other 99% of the times
:lol :clapping
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
I would agree he has been servicable lately. He still lacks in basic areas but has given a good contest in the ruck. This is probably about as good as it will get.
As usual though some are very quick to hand out the praise after a couple of half decent games when they have a 10 yr history to judge him by.It seems some are blinded by their own desperate need to see players succeed.
Same could be said about Morris and Batchelor couldn't it, but they don't cop the same as Hammer do they, in fact many are so blind regarding these players they actually think they are the answer and future... :huh
All 3 cop it
Wake up
They do. At least Batch though is relatively young and probably has upside.
Hammer - 28 years old.
Morris - 27 years old
Batch - 24 years old
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Hampson should be the Orren Stephenson type of backup instead they will treat him as the #1 ruck at the club and sit on their hands which is the norm for the listmanagement crew of this club.
Nah Claw, couple on here think he's a superstar - maybe even the cream we need.
Couple of fools just cant seem to give credit where its due either..heads in arse disease.. :snidegrin
I would agree he has been servicable lately. He still lacks in basic areas but has given a good contest in the ruck. This is probably about as good as it will get.
As usual though some are very quick to hand out the praise after a couple of half decent games when they have a 10 yr history to judge him by.It seems some are blinded by their own desperate need to see players succeed.
Same could be said about Morris and Batchelor couldn't it, but they don't cop the same as Hammer do they, in fact many are so blind regarding these players they actually think they are the answer and future... :huh
All 3 cop it
Wake up
They do. At least Batch though is relatively young and probably has upside.
Hammer - 28 years old.
Morris - 27 years old
Batch - 24 years old
Unfortunately I don't think Batch has much upside.... as a backman.
He isn't going to get any taller to play on KPF and he isn't going to get any quicker or more agile to play on medium or small forwards. He is an inbetweener and at AFL level that means you are a listclogger. Unless....
I think I mentioned this about 3 years ago but what do people think about him being a lead up forward? He has good dukes, is strong in a contest and would fight tooth and nail to keep the footy in the forward line but would need to work on his kicking.
IMO that's his last chance at staying on our list.
Thoughts??
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Think some posters should start going to the game and watch the set ups at Centre Bounces and stoppages
Found a picture of Jack at the game*
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/592362903-man-sitting-on-bleachers-at-stadium-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=XL7kA8O2Dn0B3Bnl3kMalGe1cM8NABapuubaUdm8oRKKXboPpZpo8dUM6NhHD8sAJvZrTaatzoXXSaKG8c0gJg%3D%3D)
*Turns out he keeps going to the wrong game. No wonder he thinks he's the only one watching
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That will be Batch at the end of the year during his footy trip, after they give him the wrong destination.
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Hopefully they don't have to get a flight there because we know Hampson won't be able to catch it
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:facepalm hysterical..
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Think some posters should start going to the game and watch the set ups at Centre Bounces and stoppages
Found a picture of Jack at the game*
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/592362903-man-sitting-on-bleachers-at-stadium-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=XL7kA8O2Dn0B3Bnl3kMalGe1cM8NABapuubaUdm8oRKKXboPpZpo8dUM6NhHD8sAJvZrTaatzoXXSaKG8c0gJg%3D%3D)
*Turns out he keeps going to the wrong game. No wonder he thinks he's the only one watching
Maybe he is attending training
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Think some posters should start going to the game and watch the set ups at Centre Bounces and stoppages
Found a picture of Jack at the game*
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/592362903-man-sitting-on-bleachers-at-stadium-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=XL7kA8O2Dn0B3Bnl3kMalGe1cM8NABapuubaUdm8oRKKXboPpZpo8dUM6NhHD8sAJvZrTaatzoXXSaKG8c0gJg%3D%3D)
*Turns out he keeps going to the wrong game. No wonder he thinks he's the only one watching
At least I go to the games
And don't have excuses like
Got to work
No money
Live to far away
Starts to late
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Lol
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Lucky the luenburger is out
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Think some posters should start going to the game and watch the set ups at Centre Bounces and stoppages
Found a picture of Jack at the game*
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/592362903-man-sitting-on-bleachers-at-stadium-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=XL7kA8O2Dn0B3Bnl3kMalGe1cM8NABapuubaUdm8oRKKXboPpZpo8dUM6NhHD8sAJvZrTaatzoXXSaKG8c0gJg%3D%3D)
*Turns out he keeps going to the wrong game. No wonder he thinks he's the only one watching
At least I go to the games
And don't have excuses like
Got to work
No money
Live to far away
Starts to late
Yeah. Good one Einstein
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Richmond won the hitout count by seven and the hitout-to-advantage count by three in the second quarter, but it lost the clearance count by nine. Despite dominating the stoppages, the Bombers scored just five more points than the Tigers from this source.
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HE WAS BACK TO HIS COMICAL SELF TONIGHT, 3 OR 4 SLOPPY TACKLES, THE FRESH AIRY HANDBALL IN THE LAST QTR WAS A HIGHLIGHT :thumbsup
edit: sorry caps
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Shaun Hampson growing in stature at Tigers
AFL.com.au
29 May 2016
RICHMOND ruckman Shaun Hampson says he's surprised to be in career-best form after a double ankle reconstruction at the end of last year limited his preparation for season 2016.
The former Blue only managed four senior games last season, with Ivan Maric the Tigers' preferred ruckman.
But the 28-year-old hasn't missed a beat this season, grabbing his opportunity to play in all but one game so far, averaging a career-high 29.4 hit-outs per game.
His form has been so good, coach Damien Hardwick has had no choice but to leave him in the senior side, with Maric relegated to the VFL.
Despite his career-best figures in the ruck, Hampson told AFL.com.au he still has a "massive list" of areas he needs to improve on, if he is to match it with the best big men in the competition.
"I think this is one of, if not, my best season," Hampson said.
"I'm still playing far from my best footy. I feel like my ruck work is really good, but I'd still like to get involved more around the ground.
"My follow-up work is an area I want to improve, especially when you see the likes of [Shane] Mumford, and what he does."
Hampson's form in the early part of this season, has surprised not only outsiders, but himself.
The big man had a double ankle reconstruction at the end of last season, and wasn't able to train until February, leaving him uncertain on how well he would perform once the season came around.
"It was really hard," Hampson said.
"I came in for the final NAB Challenge game so it was a complete lack of a pre-season for me. I didn't know what to expect.
"The ankles feel really good now. I feel a lot stronger out there. They were in really average condition so they both needed a fix up.
"I'm happy with how my body has handled itself off no pre-season, so I'm a bit surprised I'm doing so well."
Competition for spots is also driving Hampson, with the big man well aware he could lose his spot at any time with Maric starting to find form in the VFL.
"He's playing well in the twos so that makes me want to play well every week," Hampson said.
"But I think it's good for both of us. Teams need that, we need tough competition from underneath so you get that from every position and it certainly keeps me honest."
The pair has only played together once this season, in round six against Port Adelaide, with Hardwick turning to the likes of forward Ben Griffiths to assist Hampson in the ruck.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-28/shaun-hampson-growing-in-stature-at-the-tigers
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That fresh air handball was an Auskick level skill error
Lmao
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That fresh air handball was an Auskick level skill error
Lmao
At least he has a crack
Some of his tap outs were superb last night
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That fresh air handball was an Auskick level skill error
Lmao
At least he has a crack
Some of his tap outs were superb last night
Yeah some where and some were dreadful. And we got thrashed in clearances.
And his around the ground efforts where shambolic at times. That free he gave way in the 1st was simply dumb
Agree with others he was back to the Hampson we've come to expect. Perhaps he's been reading how great he's supposedly become, certainly played that way at times
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Thought his first half was solid but yeah after that back to being a complete liability around the ground. There's no upside there he's genuinely uncoordinated.
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Don't think he was 100% last night
Spent long periods off the ground
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At the end of the day we'll have to extend his contract if we don't land a developed ruckman at season's end.
Maric is clearly finished and is a long way behind Hampson atm.
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Don't think he was 100% last night
Spent long periods off the ground
Ok
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Changed my mind on him
He used to just stand there watching with his hands on his hips ,
He now gets in and does the team things, same goes for Griff
Good on him , Richmond can't afford freeloading passengers on the band wagon
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I thought he was ok , just lacking a little polish at critical times .
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Changed my mind on him
He used to just stand there watching with his hands on his hips ,
He now gets in and does the team things, same goes for Griff
Good on him , Richmond can't afford freeloading passengers on the band wagon
Agree
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Doing the job he should be doing and doing it well. :thumbsup
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fool
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Even Angus Graham had the odd game as good as Hammer.
Their worst is on par with each other.
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He's like a walking parody of a ruckman. All the long-standing jokes about ruckmen come to life in one player. We cannot seriously head into next year with this dud as our first ruck option. He shouldn't even be on an AFL list....don't care how good his tapwork supposedly is...he effectively leaves us a man down around the ground for the other 99% of the game....
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Randomly falls over wtf
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angus graham like
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Lmfao what a Salami this guy is
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Doing the job he should be doing and doing it well. :thumbsup
What do you consider his job to be? i would of thought ruckman on today's game could get more than 8 possies in a game. I would of thought they could be a threat to drift forward and kick a goal. I would of thought they could take a few marks around the ground. I would of thought they could have more than 4 tackles in the last 3 weeks combined...
If you consider his job to be to jump up and touch the ball with his hand then sure he's doing that ok.
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I would of thought you could try not be responsible for a high percentage of opposition goals due to stupidity
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What about when he and stumbles Morris were involved in that play where they were trying to break out of defence IN THE FOURTH. LMAOOOOOO
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The problem is, when the last decent ruckman we had aside from Maric was bloody Stafford (10-12 years ago now?) you get used to sub par ruck performances.
Thus guy Hampson is a donkey and not even fit to polish the boots of the likes of Troy Simmonds
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What about when he and stumbles Morris were involved in that play where they were trying to break out of defence IN THE FOURTH. LMAOOOOOO
Benny hill music #
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The 'Fresh Air Handball' specialist
Hahahahaha eff me dead wot a complete idiot :lol
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The problem is, when the last decent ruckman we had aside from Maric was bloody Stafford (10-12 years ago now?) you get used to sub par ruck performances.
Thus guy Hampson is a donkey and not even fit to polish the boots of the likes of Troy Simmonds
You are taking this too far, don't you understand how well he trains
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The problem is, when the last decent ruckman we had aside from Maric was bloody Stafford (10-12 years ago now?) you get used to sub par ruck performances.
Thus guy Hampson is a donkey and not even fit to polish the boots of the likes of Troy Simmonds
You are taking this too far, don't you understand how well he trains
:lol
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Loved his rugby passes...innovative....
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The problem is, when the last decent ruckman we had aside from Maric was bloody Stafford (10-12 years ago now?) you get used to sub par ruck performances.
Thus guy Hampson is a donkey and not even fit to polish the boots of the likes of Troy Simmonds
You are taking this too far, don't you understand how well he trains
He trains very well 😉
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That fresh air handball was an Auskick level skill error
Lmao
At least he has a crack
Some of his tap outs were superb last night
The one where he tapped it directly towards Essendons goals just to make the resulting goal they kicked that bit easier? He's dumb. Sure he gets his hands to it but he doesn't actually know what he's doing.
His complete misjudge of the ball when he ran and jumped underneath it and turned around and got the high tackle was the highlight for me, with the rugby throw a close second
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Loved his rugby passes...innovative....
The best is when he crashes into someone neck 20 yards out from the goal he's Sposed to be defending
Then looks mortified the maggot paid a free against him
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Shaun Hampson has now assumed the No.1 ruck mantle at Richmond as he is viewed as a superior tap ruckman to Maric.
Hampson is ranked eighth in the competition for hitouts this season, despite not having played every game, and Goldstein's absence could see the former Blue have a big impact at the all-important stoppages.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/north-melbourne-kangaroos-todd-goldstein-battling-to-take-on-richmond-tigers-20160531-gp7yj6.html
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If everyone (lburger, goldie) keeps getting hurt before we play them we might be alright
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A very sad time has been reached for the RFC
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Shaun Hampson has now assumed the No.1 ruck mantle at Richmond as he is viewed as a superior tap ruckman to Maric.
Hampson is ranked eighth in the competition for hitouts this season, despite not having played every game, and Goldstein's absence could see the former Blue have a big impact at the all-important stoppages.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/north-melbourne-kangaroos-todd-goldstein-battling-to-take-on-richmond-tigers-20160531-gp7yj6.html
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping.............Shut up nuffers... :lol :lol
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I don't think anyone's argued he's not better a tap ruckman than Maric, though how many hit outs go to advantage? Is he a gun in general play around the ground now as well WAT?
Apart from his tap work, what did you like best about his match against Essendon WAT - the rugby passes, high tackles, the falling over for no apparent reason or missed marks?
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I don't think anyone's argued he's not better a tap ruckman than Maric, though how many hit outs go to advantage?
Is that even a real stat? Sometimes when a tap goes straight down a rover's throat, it can be luck or brilliant work by the rover-and the rover only. Other times a ruckman will tap the ball beautifully into space and no teammate runs onto it. Does the ruck get punished because someone got the set play wrong? Inexact science.
Even though he can set the mids a bit of a task at times with his taps, I think overall he is giving our midfielders a good crack at it. He is actually doing well with hitouts. This is the highest compliment I have given Hampson, not that I am converted at all because he is just so ordinary around the ground.
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Nicnat
Goldie
Jacobs
The better ones seem to do it consistently.
Hitouts to advantage is a stat. Dunno how to find it. Perhaps it costs money like meters gained
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The only thing that matters is we extend his contract
Very important
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Hampson is the number 1 ruck at Richmond, what a stuffing achievement :lol. 8th in hit outs. Woah, I guess that puts him in the middle of the pack? Seems about right, considering a lot of teams also use 2 genuine ruckman sharing the load whereas Hampson does the bulk of the work for us. That oughta shut up all his critics
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Other teams rucks can catch kick defend attack ...
Ours can jump and tap :bow
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Abolition of the sub rule helps Richmond ruckman Shaun Hampson rejuvenate his career
ELIZA SEWELL
Herald Sun
3 June 2016
REBORN Richmond ruckman Shaun Hampson says the abolition of the bench sub has helped rejuvenate his career.
Hampson steps out against league-leaders North Melbourne — and the game’s best ruck Todd Goldstein — in Hobart Friday night as the Tigers’ No. 1 big man.
After years of inconsistency and injury — he played just four games last year — the oft-maligned former Blue said the interchange reform had been a boon for him and other genuine tap ruckmen.
“I think having the interchange rule change, that’s made teams want to play one genuine ruckman,” Hampson said.
“You still get your teams playing two genuine rucks as well, but the change has probably worked to my advantage a little bit and to some other players.
“There’s definitely been a change. When I started it was all about that versatile (tall), but there’s definitely a shift back the other way now.”
Hampson had both ankles operated on during the off-season and had no expectations for this year with little training under his belt.
But he’s since forced former first choice ruckman Ivan Maric to the reserves and is averaging 29 hitout a game.
He wins almost 50 per cent of ruck contests, above average for the league. He’s also ranked above average for hit outs to advantage — almost 15 per cent.
“I couldn’t work on much except trying to get my body fit throughout the pre-season,” Hampson told the Herald Sun.
“I think my ruck work’s always been there, it’s just other parts of my game that have let me down, and my body to some extent.
“There’s been times when I’ve played two or three of my best games in a row and then something’s happened, I’ve got injured and missed two or three weeks and just can’t get back into the swing of things.
“I’ve only missed one game this year and the body’s feeling the best it has.”
There are parts of his game he needed to work on, his disposals is one, and coach Damien Hardwick is frank on that front.
“I think he’s not too interested in me kicking the ball,” Hampson said, laughing.
He said the fan criticism he’s received during his career, which started at the Blues in 2007, had been frustrating at times.
“It’s something that may have bothered me the first couple of years of footy, but it’s just something you come to expect now,” he said.
“I don’t read or listen to anything about the team in the media … I think that’s a mistake a lot of players make.
“You can read a positive article and feel quite good about yourself but then the negative ones, they sort of, on a player like me, who needs to be confident and up and about, can sort of take its toll a bit.
“I’ve learnt to just tune it out, just focus on my footy.”
On Friday night he takes on the game’s best, Todd Goldstein, a challenge he hasn’t faced since 2009, when Hampson was at Royal Pde.
“It will give me a really good indication of where I’m at compared to arguably the best ruckman, the most consistent ruckman, in the comp,” Hampson said.
“As much as I’m sure it’s going to be hard work, I’m looking forward to it as well.”
Out of contract at the end of the season, Hampson is letting his footy do the talking.
“We (Hampson and his manager) had a focus a month or two ago now to just play good footy and when the club’s ready to talk, we talk,” he said.
‘But until then, just play footy, focus on footy, don’t worry about it.
“I love the club and I’ve love to be with them for the future and hopefully finish my career there.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/abolition-of-the-sub-rule-helps-richmond-ruckman-shaun-hampson-rejuvenate-his-career/news-story/036a94b4bd74fb07655eb7643d1caafe
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You blokes had better get used to him being there.There is no one else.
Will probably get bagged but who gives a stuff. I could live with us keeping him as backup but that would mean the club will have to go out and get a decent ruckman and while at it a few juniors ones as well.
Just some more fodder for your cannons i think he has been almost servicable this yr. yeah he remains poor in areas and is not the answer we must do better.Just saying he has been better and done his job.
Can people remember last years E/F. Goldstein slaughtered us and gave his mids a free reign. Lets see what happens this time around.
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Good work Hammer
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You blokes had better get used to him being there.There is no one else.
Will probably get bagged but who gives a stuff. I could live with us keeping him as backup but that would mean the club will have to go out and get a decent ruckman and while at it a few juniors ones as well.
Just some more fodder for your cannons i think he has been almost servicable this yr. yeah he remains poor in areas and is not the answer we must do better.Just saying he has been better and done his job.
Can people remember last years E/F. Goldstein slaughtered us and gave his mids a free reign. Lets see what happens this time around.
Geez man, youve lost your mind
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KB's Take: Over to you Shaun Hampson
Justin Talent
SEN
03 Jun 2016
North Melbourne has been Richmond’s bogey team for a long long time.
The Kangaroos just beat the Tigers when they’re not resting players like Round 23 last year.
There’s something about the Roos set up that finds a chink in Richmond’s armour.
The Tigers brain trust after last year’s finals defeat believe it’s the Todd Goldstein factor that destroys the yellow and black. So the plan was hatched that Ivan Maric as brave as he is as a warrior for the club would make way for the taller, high leaping and much maligned Shaun Hampson.
The belief being that Hampson can nullify or even beat Goldstein in the hit outs then the Tigers crack midfield will get first crack at the ball and the club will see a different result.
It all comes to fruition tonight for it’s a must win for Richmond if it’s to play finals this year.
Over to you Shaun Hampson.
Read more at: http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/06-16/kbs-take-over-to-you-shaun-hampson#UCeAVkyu3f6GTI0c.99
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You blokes had better get used to him being there.There is no one else.
Will probably get bagged but who gives a stuff. I could live with us keeping him as backup but that would mean the club will have to go out and get a decent ruckman and while at it a few juniors ones as well.
Just some more fodder for your cannons i think he has been almost servicable this yr. yeah he remains poor in areas and is not the answer we must do better.Just saying he has been better and done his job.
Can people remember last years E/F. Goldstein slaughtered us and gave his mids a free reign. Lets see what happens this time around.
Geez man, youve lost your mind
It's not the end of the world to keep hamspud as the 4th string
It's having him a the #1 ruckman which is infuriating
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Go Hammer
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Go Hammer
No excuses now
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Go Hammer
No excuses now
Doesnt need them, playing his role for many games this year.
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If the opposition ruckman keeps getting injuries it's all good
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Go Hammer
No excuses now
Doesnt need them, playing his role for many games this year.
Correct
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Here we go......
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Is his job falling over? Giving away free kicks that lead to goals? Not going near the ball in general play? Hmmm?
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Is his job falling over? Giving away free kicks that lead to goals? Not going near the ball in general play? Hmmm?
Exactly. Wot a putz Daw will shred him to bits with honesty and accountability
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Is his job falling over? Giving away free kicks that lead to goals? Not going near the ball in general play? Hmmm?
Exactly. Wot a putz Daw will shred him to bits with honesty and accountability
:clapping
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Hoping we will see the limp return for the last quarter. :rollin
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Can we bring back Ivvy now?
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hahaha can someone post that article on the back page.
Ivan is cooked etc etc LMFAO
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Hampson and Angus Graham tied for worst mark ever to play for Richmond.
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Lol at those spruiking this spud
Last week we saw the fresh airy handball ;D
This week it was the fresh airy punch in the last line of defence :lol stuff me how bad can you be?
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You gotta laugh at those ruckmen that get cleaned up when they fumble the ball then go for a 2nd bite of the cherry. It's a free pass for a tackler to bury them into the dirt :lol
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Hampson and Angus Graham tied for worst mark ever to play for Richmond.
Hammer has him covered.
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Gus was Royce Hart compared to Hamspud.
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Would seriously prefer chucking Vickery in the ruck and just conceding the hit outs to playing this shytetruck ever again.
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Would seriously prefer chucking Vickery in the ruck and just conceding the hit outs to playing this shytetruck ever again.
Ouch! That hurts.
Let's not forget they both train very well compared to the Masala Amateur football club division 4 team. :rollin
Can we be any more stuffed after a seven year rebuild that was successful after 4 years because we, the fans couldn't wait eight years but are currently taking 2 steps back?
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:lol
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We could be blooding chol. McBean. Soldo.
Playing Maric.
But no. We got goofy mcidiot
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yeah but he has turned the corner, interchange rotations have helped his career. etc etc Keep up FFS :banghead :banghead
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contract extension on the way - career best training form
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We could be blooding chol. McBean. Soldo.
Playing Maric.
But no. We got goofy hamspud
You know this is so wrong. None of the players you mentioned will make it as top ruckmen.
We all want better than the hamspud but you are suggesting replace him with blokes who just are not ruckmen..
No thats harsh McBean and Chol if they make it will only ever be KPP. Soldo i dont get it. We could take just about any ruckman from state leagues around the country and have a better chance of finding a player.If he ever does make it it will be as a ruckman.
Look no further than Vickery to see what we have as far as ruckmen goes with Chol and McBean. Soldo well he is a very long shot.
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Is majek daw Polly farmer ?
Vickery is too a better option. Might have a chance of touching he ball sometime
It's remarkable we over look lburger Kreuzer Zsmith an the plethora of decent ruckman available every year
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Lol at those spruiking this spud
Last week we saw the fresh airy handball ;D
This week it was the fresh airy punch in the last line of defence :lol stuff me how bad can you be?
The party is over for his delusional supporters. Absolute liability around the ground and can't even hold his own against a rookie type ruck.
What more proof do you want.
End of conversation for the fools.
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
This :thumbsup
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From the coach....
"* We got first use via Hampson but having the dominant ruckman actually made us a sitting duck. Every time Cotchin got the tap receive, North smashed him as there was no support."
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
Absolute rubbish. Tap outs went straight to north players. He has no spatial awareness and you and WATstar clearly have no idea
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There is more to rucking Than taps you fools
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
Absolute rubbish. Tap outs went straight to north players. He has no spatial awareness and you and WATstar clearly have no idea
Have a look at where the players were standing, do you think that he has been told to tap to a certain spot??? Look at the players standing BEHIND the North players....wake up Dooks FFS and stop playing the fool. Even the great Coach Hardwick can see it.
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
Absolute rubbish. Tap outs went straight to north players. He has no spatial awareness and you and WATstar clearly have no idea
Well I must of been watching the Test Pattern last night
As what I saw was Hammer getting first use only to see Martin .Edwards and Miles standing behind there opponent
Cotchin had no support what so ever
Grigg had some idea thus he got huge amount of disposals last night from
Stoppages
Please watch the replay and stop posting pure dribble
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
Absolute rubbish. Tap outs went straight to north players. He has no spatial awareness and you and WATstar clearly have no idea
Have a look at where the players were standing, do you think that he has been told to tap to a certain spot??? Look at the players standing BEHIND the North players....wake up Dooks FFS and stop playing the fool. Even the great Coach Hardwick can see it.
Best post of the year
At least someone watches the games
The set up from stoppages last night were terrible
Apart from Grigg
Martin Edwards and Miles got led into each time
There lies the problem
Watch the replay
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
I'm no fool thanks.
but i thought his game was poor
Yep he got the tap outs
But around the ground he was woeful. Daw thrashed him in the around ground stuff. Espeicall pressure acts and tackels
Which proves yet again that he needs to offer more than tap outs. And he rarely does
Goldstein, Gawn offer their respective sides more than tap outs and thats the issue here.
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Only fool is you
He actually won the tap outs
No his fault that team mates stand behind there opponents
I'm no fool thanks.
but i thought his game was poor
Yep he got the tap outs
But around the ground he was woeful. Daw thrashed him in the around ground stuff. Espeicall pressure acts and tackels
Which proves yet again that he needs to offer more than tap outs. And he rarely does
Goldstein, Gawn offer their respective sides more than tap outs and thats the issue here.
Perhaps if our players actually won the ball after the tap instead of just standing there stuck behind the North players he would look better to you. Or if he wasn't trying to rove his own tap because the players around him are incompetent. Daw was running off him because he was trying to do the groundwork as well as tap tap work.
Hampson is not as bad as people make out every week, we have worse in the team.
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Correct
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
He is the only answer at the moment and thats pretty simple, he is doing his job and doing it well.
We have a plethora of other players that are not the answer and that was evident last night, Hampson is not one of them.
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
Wow!! All hail the final word. "That's simply it" Now bow down in my presence.
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
Can argue that actually
Last night proved that he can get the first tap out
Hey Genius , who you going to replace him with ?
One of the Ivan's ? :lol
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Should have gotten Majak to come play for us.
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
Wow!! All hail the final word. "That's simply it" Now bow down in my presence.
Wot?
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People can argue this or argue that. At the end of the day Hammer is not the answer and last night proved it.
Thats simply it.
Can argue that actually
Last night proved that he can get the first tap out
Hey Genius , who you going to replace him with ?
One of the Ivan's ? :lol
exactly.
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There is more to rucking Than taps you fools
It's really this simple.
I actually had a good laugh in the first when a North bloke kicked it forward and Hammer, with no one in the near vicinity, tried to punch the ball before it went OOF. He was unsuccessful (what a surprise) but still tried to run away (who knows where) before the umpire had to pull him back to say that he'd been awarded the free kick and needed to kick the football.
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Should have gotten Majak to come play for us.
Yes Yes Yes .
Been thinking this for ages . People say he is rubbish but I think he looks like a star every time we play North. Missed opportunity.
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There is more to rucking Than taps you fools
It's really this simple.
I actually had a good laugh in the first when a North bloke kicked it forward and Hammer, with no one in the near vicinity, tried to punch the ball before it went OOF. He was unsuccessful (what a surprise) but still tried to run away (who knows where) before the umpire had to pull him back to say that he'd been awarded the free kick and needed to kick the football.
Exactly
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There is more to rucking Than taps you fools
It's really this simple.
I actually had a good laugh in the first when a North bloke kicked it forward and Hammer, with no one in the near vicinity, tried to punch the ball before it went OOF. He was unsuccessful (what a surprise) but still tried to run away (who knows where) before the umpire had to pull him back to say that he'd been awarded the free kick and needed to kick the football.
But nah "he's training the house down" and "he's doing his job and doing it well" :lol
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Snip! Discuss the topic without the namecalling ppl.
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Saved daws carrer
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I can't believe there are people supporting Hamspud it's truly mind boggling.
Yes he's obviously all we have available other than Maric but to accept him as a serviceable player or to even acknowledge that he is anywhere near AFL standard IMO is unbelievable to say the least.
The fact that he plays consistently highlights the current regimes incompetence and that covers the whole gamut of the football department. To allow this debacle from occurring in the first place despite whether or not anyone agrees that he's a serviceable tap ruckman he should be a VFL emergency back up at best, it's astonishing that no one in this footy department is capable in identifying the need for more rucks years ago.
To accept this scenario regardless of how many games you attend underlines the acceptance of mediocrity by supporters who willingly excuse the club for the current dilemma they finds themselves in and blindly support every decision they make regardless of reality.
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My favourite highlight over the last month was his fresh air handball attempt
:lol :lol :lol L M F A O :lol :lol :lol
At least if they keep playing him this year we will be enterntained by how ridiculously bad he is. What a donkey lol
(http://www.duhaime.org/Portals/duhaime/images/braying-donkey.jpg)
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Anyone catch the highlight of Batchelor not committing to the contest, stopping and turning back to watch instead of backing back into the two players coming??
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Wrong thread
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Wrong thread
Doesn't matter.
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I really hope the club is serious about getting an upgrade on Hampson .
If Shawn played cricket he would be like a wicket keeper who couldn't bat.
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Scott muller ...
Can't catch catch throw can't bowl ...
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Dimmer truly believes that Hampson is the answer.
What a loser.
Stupid RFC, signing him for two more years on the strength of 3 consecutive finals losses.
At least Hardwick holds the record for number of games coached without a finals win.
He can shove that up his paid arse when he tries to sleep at night.
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Getting the job at the moment, doing his job, playing his role and contributing, thats all folks.
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Getting the job at the moment, doing his job, playing his role and contributing, thats all folks.
rubbish he is, he taps and thats it, hes a liability with everything else.
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Getting the job at the moment, doing his job, playing his role and contributing, thats all folks.
rubbish he is, he taps and thats it, hes a liability with everything else.
doing the job, that's all he needs to do, he can't help the incompetence around him. :thumbsup
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Getting the job at the moment, doing his job, playing his role and contributing, thats all folks.
rubbish he is, he taps and thats it, hes a liability with everything else.
doing the job, that's all he needs to do, he can't help the incompetence around him. :thumbsup
wrong, ruckmen need to do more than just tap the ball. Are you serious or taking the pee with this?
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He is giving our mids first use of the ball as he did again last night, they just keep stuffing it up and turning it over or playing behind. Can't blame him for that.
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He is giving our mids first use of the ball as he did again last night, they just keep stuffing it up and turning it over or playing behind. Can't blame him for that.
Post of the century
At least you watch the game
Unlike others on OER
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He is giving our mids first use of the ball as he did again last night, they just keep stuffing it up and turning it over or playing behind. Can't blame him for that.
except for when he hits it straight to the opposition team
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He is giving our mids first use of the ball as he did again last night, they just keep stuffing it up and turning it over or playing behind. Can't blame him for that.
Post of the century
At least you watch the game
Unlike others on OER
Would love to see Maric come back and the center clearances go down and us get smashed everywhere on the ground, more so than now. Would love to hear some of them then.
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:banghead SNIP :banghead
I'll keep it SIMPLE >:( enough of the name calling of those you dont agree with or ALL engaging in it can enjoy a holiday via a strike
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I really hope the club is serious about getting an upgrade on Hampson .
If Shawn played cricket he would be like a wicket keeper who couldn't bat.
Can't catch either so no matter what you're screwed. Love how Dimma has no clue until he agree's with you then suddenly he's gospel :lol.
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I really hope the club is serious about getting an upgrade on Hampson .
If Shawn played cricket he would be like a wicket keeper who couldn't bat.
Can't catch either so no matter what you're screwed. Love how Dimma has no clue until he agree's with you then suddenly he's gospel :lol.
Would struggle to run water without tripping over his feet
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Interesting that he called his child River
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Hopefully he hangs onto it better than a football
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Interesting that he called his child River
Must have been looking at one when he was born, just like two dogs ....
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Bump 😉
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Thought he lifted when we needed it today, took a mark and kicked a goal in the same passage of play which is almost a first for him at the club.
Sad again to think he is by far our best ruckman at the club, another feather in the cap for our recruiting department.
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Bump 😉
Good bump. Great to see him kick that goal. He has missed plenty from that range.
Good game by the Hammer.
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He was ok
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:snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Doing the job very nicely. :clapping
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Confidence is huge thing in footy
Hammertime
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:snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Doing the job very nicely. :clapping
:clapping :clapping
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probably the best game he's played - wow have said that several weeks back too. Took several strong grabs and didnt try and do too much, still had his hammer moments where he forgot which way he was kicking :lol but all in all credit where its due for todays performance
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I thought his game was ok.
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could learn a thing or two about second and third efforts after the ruck contests from griffiths performance in that area today, and that, although an improvement, was acceptable, perhaps even good, rather than great
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🔨⏱
It's Hammertime
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:dancing :dancing :dancing
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could learn a thing or two about second and third efforts after the ruck contests from griffiths performance in that area today, and that, although an improvement, was acceptable, perhaps even good, rather than great
:facepalm..WTF does that even mean...what a ramble on. Just say he was good instead of your usual dribble.
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With all the Spud love on here it's as though the club has been vindicated for its decision not to recruit more rucks over the last few trades. Does this mean we got a bargain with our second rounder?
All this and he finally plays to a required standard. Let's not get sucked in.
He's still a dumb footballer even if he has finally figured out how to get a few defensive fists that actually connected with the footy.
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He has had a good year actually, it just hurts some to admit it.
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Not an afl standard player and that's why Richmond and its supporters kid themselves with this spud in the side!
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With all the Spud love on here it's as though the club has been vindicated for its decision not to recruit more rucks over the last few trades. Does this mean we got a bargain with our second rounder?
All this and he finally plays to a required standard. Let's not get sucked in.
He's still a dumb footballer even if he has finally figured out how to get a few defensive fists that actually connected with the footy.
I think Hampson is Shyte.
He is less Shyte than normal. Thankfully.
If he is going I stay should be 3rd/4th string. I would bring in a mature #1 ruck who can get te ball , catch, defend and a young developing ruckman.
Move to rookie list
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He has had a good year actually,
Wow
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Was good
could learn a thing or two about second and third efforts after the ruck contests from griffiths performance in that area today, and that, although an improvement, was acceptable, perhaps even good, rather than great
Yep at times there were no 2nd or 3rd efforts from Hammer
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With all the Spud love on here it's as though the club has been vindicated for its decision not to recruit more rucks over the last few trades. Does this mean we got a bargain with our second rounder?
All this and he finally plays to a required standard. Let's not get sucked in.
He's still a dumb footballer even if he has finally figured out how to get a few defensive fists that actually connected with the footy.
I think Hampson is Shyte.
He is less Shyte than normal. Thankfully.
If he is going I stay should be 3rd/4th string. I would bring in a mature #1 ruck who can get te ball , catch, defend and a young developing ruckman.
Move to rookie list
Wow.
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BOG for Gold Coast ...put the ball down their throats all day..... :clapping
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BOG for Gold Coast ...put the ball down their throats all day..... :clapping
Confusing him with Batchelor, teamed up well with Ablett and nearly won it for them
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With all the Spud love on here it's as though the club has been vindicated for its decision not to recruit more rucks over the last few trades. Does this mean we got a bargain with our second rounder?
All this and he finally plays to a required standard. Let's not get sucked in.
He's still a dumb footballer even if he has finally figured out how to get a few defensive fists that actually connected with the footy.
I think Hampson is Shyte.
He is less Shyte than normal. Thankfully.
If he is going I stay should be 3rd/4th string. I would bring in a mature #1 ruck who can get te ball , catch, defend and a young developing ruckman.
Move to rookie list
Wow.
What's your plan Hampson contract extension - premiership?
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BOG for Gold Coast ...put the ball down their throats all day..... :clapping
Confusing him with Batchelor, teamed up well with Ablett and nearly won it for them
Nope Batchrelor only gets the two votes fot Gold Coast behind Hamspud....
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LMAO at WAT not understanding the concept of 2nd and 3rd efforts let alone their importance
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LMAO at WAT not understanding the concept of 2nd and 3rd efforts let alone their importance
:bow all hale the narsasist :clapping
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LMAO at WAT not understanding the concept of 2nd and 3rd efforts let alone their importance
:bow all hale the narsasist :clapping
jeez , 4 words & you spelt 2 of them incorrectly
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LMAO at WAT not understanding the concept of 2nd and 3rd efforts let alone their importance
:bow all hale the narsasist :clapping
I prefer Hale & Pace.....you nasty arse....
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Yeah well auto correct on the iPad so GFD. You knew what I meant.
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BOG for Gold Coast ...put the ball down their throats all day..... :clapping
Certainly did a fair bit
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:lol
can someone please inform Apple that their spell check has the spelling of narcissist wrong and that hail is also a correct spelling of an English word.
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:lol
can someone please inform Apple that their spell check has the spelling of narcissist wrong and that hail is also a correct spelling of an English word.
:snidegrin
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I'm more concerned that someone somewhere is missing an i-pad....
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I'm concerned if he somehow works out how to use Siri that he'll end up in another losing argument.
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Decent game again.
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Gold Coast mids agree with you.....
...anyway, good to see Prestia getting in some early practice roving to his taps for next year....
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Gold Coast mids agree with you.....
...anyway, good to see Prestia getting in some early practice roving to his taps for next year....
:lol despite Hammer playing better than usual.
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Must say
Had my eyes closed when he was taking the shot in last quarter
Split the middle
#hammertime
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WTF remove my post and leave the rest that bait??????
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Not an afl standard player and that's why Richmond and its supporters kid themselves with this spud in the side!
^^
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Doing his job, just accept it.
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Doing his job, just accept it.
What afl team would he get a game for outside Richmond.
Funny how all these spaz do the jobs and yet te clubs two games from 9th
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Doing his job, just accept it.
What afl team would he get a game for outside Richmond.
Funny how all these spaz do the jobs and yet te clubs two games from 9th
Doesn't matter, he is with us and doing the job he is supposed to.
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People sticking up for this guy like he's the premier ruckman in the comp are exactly the type of people this club don't need. Just apart of the RCGG who accept mediocrity. Dunno about you but I want to win a premiership and we never will with this dud in our team
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Doing his job, just accept it.
What afl team would he get a game for outside Richmond.
Funny how all these spaz do the jobs and yet te clubs two games from 9th
Doesn't matter, he is with us and doing the job he is supposed to.
He was ok at best. I went to the game so i should know. Even Angus Graham had a few ok games, but like him theres been nothing great and a good chance he'll soon revert back to his usual stink.
You profess to dislike other posters always overrating players, yet you hang off every possession the likes of Hampson and Vickery accummulate. In this respect, only a fool couldnt see you have become the very type of fan you 'supposedly' dislike.
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Doing his job, just accept it.
What afl team would he get a game for outside Richmond.
Funny how all these spaz do the jobs and yet te clubs two games from 9th
Doesn't matter, he is with us and doing the job he is supposed to.
It does matter.
Get your head out of Sand
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Problem is his "good" games are only compared to his other games, when in reality they're at best just the bare minimum you'd expect from an AFL ruckman, particulary one of ten years experience.
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Problem is his "good" games are only compared to his other games, when in reality they're at best just the bare minimum you'd expect from an AFL ruckman, particulary one of ten years experience.
Exactly. :clapping
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Having a very good year, very good tap ruck and we would be lost without him. He is now a goal kicker as well. :clapping
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Having a very good year, very good tap ruck and we would be lost without him. He is now a goal kicker as well. :clapping
Have already pencilled him in for 2 goals next game
#hammertime
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Having a very good year, very good tap ruck and we would be lost without him. He is now a goal kicker as well. :clapping
Have already pencilled him in for 2 goals next game
#hammertime
:clapping
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Kicked a rare goal and he's suddenly a goal kicker :lol :lol
Notice after he kicked the goal he lost his man not long later and their ruckman kicked the answering goal? He's stuffing pathetic. Nicholls also managed to put in a few 2nd/3rd efforts and netted himself 6 tackles. But as long as the big gumby gets a couple hit outs it's all good ::)
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Having a very good year, very good tap ruck and we would be lost without him. He is now a goal kicker as well. :clapping
Have already crayoned him in for 2 goals next game
#hammertime
EFA
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Well done to Hampson!! Keep up the very good year and get your contract extended.
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I think that the belief that a ruckman standing by watching with his his hands on his hips after the ruck contest is "doing his job", shows just how little some understand the game and what is required of those that pull on the guernsey.
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I think that the belief that a ruckman standing by watching with his his hands on his hips after the ruck contest is "doing his job", shows just how little some understand the game and what is required of those that pull on the guernsey.
Not just doing his job but "very good" apparently
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Each to their own and argue all you want, he is still in the side and will continue to be while he is doing what he is doing, which is providing a service to the team that he has been instructed to provide. So like it or lump it, you are not on the match committee, he is in the team and that's that!!
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I think that the belief that a ruckman standing by watching with his his hands on his hips after the ruck contest is "doing his job", shows just how little some understand the game and what is required of those that pull on the guernsey.
Not just doing his job but "very good" apparently
He was very good at standing by watching with his hands on hips, admittedly. probably best on the ground at it.
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Problem is his "good" games are only compared to his other games, when in reality they're at best just the bare minimum you'd expect from an AFL ruckman, particulary one of ten years experience.
I think that is a fair point. He took some marks around the ground which was pleasing to see and kicked a goal when he had to under pressure which was good. For the amount of taps he gets I think we should be getting more benefit out of his dominance of the taps and it is an area I think he needs to really improve on.
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He's been OK. We need a better ruckman though.
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He's been OK. We need a better ruckman though.
Yes we do, and a better 3-4 more players on top of that.
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From Champion Data:
Hitouts to Advantage
1 Nic Naitanui (WC) 20.2%
2 Max Gawn (Melb) 18.0%
3 Shaun Hampson (Rich) 16.0%
4 Shane Mumford (GWS) 14.6%
5 Todd Goldstein (NM) 14.3%
6 Tom Hickey (StK) 12.7%
7 Sam Jacobs (Adel) 12.4%
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/geelong/mitch-duncan-is-statistically-the-best-kick-in-the-afl-but-who-is-the-leader-at-your-club/news-story/c6e40de3c090e45e1411a2eec8aa7202
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:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :lol
DOING THE JOB!!!!!!!
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Stats mean nothing
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Percentages tell the story. :snidegrin
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GUN
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Brownlow favouritism.
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Shames other ruckmen with his abilities
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The stats don't lie lads he leads the way in many areas.
Check out his stats re Time Spent Hands on Hips (TSHOH's), contested ball observations (CBO's) and Futile non-ruck attempts (FNRA's)
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The stats don't lie lads he leads the way in many areas.
Check out his stats re Time Spent Hands on Hips (TSHOH's), contested ball observations (CBO's) and Futile non-ruck attempts (FNRA's)
Is also a clear winner in Watching Ball Go Through Fingers In Marking Attempt (WBGTFIMA's) and Missing A Goal From Straight In Front (MAGFSIF's)
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Don't forget the without the footy stat (WTF factor). Often confused with the could go a falafel stat (CGAF factor).
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And also the Shaping Up To Kick The Ball The Wrong Way stat (SUTKTBTWW's)
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The stats don't lie lads he leads the way in many areas.
Lies
Dam lies
Stats
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The stats don't lie lads he leads the way in many areas.
Check out his stats re Time Spent Hands on Hips (TSHOH's), contested ball observations (CBO's) and Futile non-ruck attempts (FNRA's)
Is also a clear winner in Watching Ball Go Through Fingers In Marking Attempt (WBGTFIMA's) and Missing A Goal From Straight In Front (MAGFSIF's)
:lol
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His stats bar hitouts to advantage would be pretty pox I reckon
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Hampson's presser today:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-06-21/hampson-press-conference-june-21
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Tiger welcomes pressure to perform
Herald-Sun
21 June 2016
RICHMOND ruckman Shaun Hampson says the competition for the tap role at the Tigers has only enhanced his game.
Hampson has held his spot in the side this season with Ivan Maric — who had battled a back injury — spending time in the VFL as he looks to regain his.
It’s been said the former Blue has “flicked the switch” this season and while he can’t put his finger on why that is, saying it could be due to age or fitness, says the competition with Maric is a big part of it.
“I’m relatively happy (with my form), but I still think there is a lot of improvement in my game,” Hampson said.
“I am (enjoying the stability). Ivvy’s been playing really well, as he does, and that pressure’s always there which is probably even more incentive to keep playing well.
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“He’s just such a great team man. It’s competitive at training, but I think it helps to improve the both of us.”
Hampson took the opportunity for a mini-break to Hepburn Springs over the bye and is feeling refreshed ahead of this weekend’s clash with Brisbane.
He said the Tigers went full tilt over the weekend to ensure they aren’t hampered by having a week off against a team that played.
“I don’t think it matters too much either way (whether you’ve played or had a bye),” he said.
“We still had a hard training session on the weekend that was game-like, so in our minds it’s like we played a game and we thought that was the best way to prepare for the weekend.”
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-ruckman-shaun-hampson-says-pressure-from-tiger-ivan-maric-driving-him-to-play-better/news-story/cdc77a1c35672c2c1f0e6c663dfc6de9
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Maric has been seen regularly in the streets of Richmond wearing a blues beanie... :shh
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Maric has been seen regularly in the streets of Richmond wearing a blues beanie... :shh
Sounds like another stat to hampson
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Hampson is doing very well this year.
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Is my favourite player
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This guy always seems to get "injured" when he's getting his pants pulled down.
A true spud is Spud.
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This guy always seems to get "injured" when he's getting his pants pulled down.
A true spud is Spud.
I don't think he was getting his pants pulled down at all.
Tap-service was good all game. Took a few marks and got involved a bit at ground level.
Martin is a very effective player around the ground though.
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I like how he missed from half a foot out
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This guy always seems to get "injured" when he's getting his pants pulled down.
A true spud is Spud.
I don't think he was getting his pants pulled down at all.
Tap-service was good all game. Took a few marks and got involved a bit at ground level.
Martin is a very effective player around the ground though.
He pretty much broke even in taps today with Martin luckily our Martin could read any tap better than anyone else today.
Spud: 6 disposals 3 effective & limped like a champ all day so he didn't have to cover his man who dominated him all over the ground.
Like I said, got his pants pulled down.
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We lost the clearances and he had 17 less disposals than his opponent who also kicked a goal. I'm happy to say he got pantsed.
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I like how he missed from half a foot out
Lol I wish the Hampson memories thread didn't get merged
It would be bumper full of lovely reflections
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Yeah but he get's his hand to the ball so everything else he does doesn't matter, heck even if his taps go to us or them doesn't matter
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Also trains very well
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That's the important thing
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Also trains very well
Can he train injured?
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Also trains very well
Can he train injured?
He's so stuffing good he could train on only one leg
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Also trains very well
Can he train injured?
He's so stuffing good he could train on only one leg
Needs to be given a 10 year Buddy like contract! ;D
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Also trains very well
Can he train injured?
He's so stuffing good he could train on only one leg
Needs to be given a 10 year Buddy like contract! ;D
WAT would give him fifteen years
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He taps it here, he taps it there, he taps anyfuckingwhere....
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'hitouts to advantage' my ass
according to who - some pimple champion data flog
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I liked it when, under absolutely no pressure, he tried to hit one of 12 players in our fwd line and kicked a 35m sawtooth shank that went to nobody.
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Also trains very well
He trains better than Maric thus he gets a game
Played well yesterday
His taps to the onballers were good
Watch the game for a change and you will learn
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Also trains very well
He trains better than Maric thus he gets a game
Played well yesterday
His taps to the onballers were good
Watch the game for a change and you will learn
Jackstar we all know you are just stirring.
I was at the game and Stef Martin pantsed him. Pretty clear to see and statistically supported too if thats anyones thing.
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And if stats are your thing:-
Disposals: - Stef Martin 23, Hampson 6
Scoreboard:- Stef Martin 1.1, Hampson 0.0
Tackles:- Stef Martin 2, Hampson 1
Marks:- 4 each
Frees for - Stef Martin 3 Hampson 0
Frees against - Stef Martin 0 Hampson 1
Hitouts:- Stef Martin 21 Hampson 27
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:lol
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Dooks = 6211 posts
6210 of no value what so ever
1 post debatable
😊😜😂🐯
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Dooks = 6211 posts
6210 of no value what so ever
1 post debatable
😊😜😂🐯
^^^^^Folks, this is what you get when you have no comeback^^^^^^
Too easy Jack. I accept your defeat son ;)
Now, how many games do people think Hammer will miss?
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Won't miss any
Very durable is 🔨⏱
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Seriously Dooks
You don't watch the game
You mentioned in another topic to drop Hunt
He was one of our best yesterday
And what's more interesting teammates have confidence in giving him the ball
Fact !
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Also trains very well
He trains better than Maric thus he gets a game
Played well yesterday
His taps to the onballers were good
Watch the game for a change and you will learn
Jackstar we all know you are just stirring.
I was at the game and Stef Martin pantsed him. Pretty clear to see and statistically supported too if thats anyones thing.
Perhaps Jack would understand better if he went to the game. LOL at thinking Hampson is durable
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Seriously Dooks
You don't watch the game
You mentioned in another topic to drop Hunt
He was one of our best yesterday
And what's more interesting teammates have confidence in giving him the ball
Fact !
Your problem is you have an extra vested intrest in seeing him succeed. You backed him in hard when he was first recruited. Thats why you choose to overrate him (to save face).
Oh and perhaps try getting to the game. I was there. You weren't.
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And if stats are your thing:-
Disposals: - Stef Martin 23, Hampson 6
Scoreboard:- Stef Martin 1.1, Hampson 0.0
Tackles:- Stef Martin 2, Hampson 1
Marks:- 4 each
Frees for - Stef Martin 3 Hampson 0
Frees against - Stef Martin 0 Hampson 1
Hitouts:- Stef Martin 21 Hampson 27
Same number of marks but Martin had 17 posessions?
paints a picture of Martin having a better workrate - as second efforts after ruck contest and /or around the ground?
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And if stats are your thing:-
Disposals: - Stef Martin 23, Hampson 6
Scoreboard:- Stef Martin 1.1, Hampson 0.0
Tackles:- Stef Martin 2, Hampson 1
Marks:- 4 each
Frees for - Stef Martin 3 Hampson 0
Frees against - Stef Martin 0 Hampson 1
Hitouts:- Stef Martin 21 Hampson 27
Same number of marks but Martin had 17 posessions?
paints a picture of Martin having a better workrate - as second efforts after ruck contest and /or around the ground?
Correct weight. Martin gut ran on the breaks and linked up. Got amongst it. Our boy isnt interested in that, only contesting marks that are kicked down the line.
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:don't forget pretending to be hurt when it gets too tough
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:don't forget pretending to be hurt when it gets too tough
:lol :rollin :lol
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Dooks = 6211 posts
6210 of no value what so ever
1 post debatable
😊😜😂🐯
:lol :clapping
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Seriously Dooks
You don't watch the game
You mentioned in another topic to drop Hunt
He was one of our best yesterday
And what's more interesting teammates have confidence in giving him the ball
Fact !
Your problem is you have an extra vested intrest in seeing him succeed. You backed him in hard when he was first recruited. Thats why you choose to overrate him (to save face).
Oh and perhaps try getting to the game. I was there. You weren't.
I was there
Listened to Mark Lee in 3121 at half time goose
If you want to find me
N6 all home games
Fact !
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If you want to find me
N6 all home games
Fact !
Would need to be more specific than that. FACT!
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If you want to find me
N6 all home games
Fact !
Would need to be more specific than that. FACT!
N6 is that weird little section were the seats face the wrong way.....
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N6 is behind the goals clown
Great seats
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If you want to find me
N6 all home games
Fact !
Would need to be more specific than that. FACT!
N6 is that weird little section were the seats face the wrong way.....
:lol
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Thought Martin easily won the ruck duel yesterday, simply becuae around the ground he superior by a long way. His workrate and 2nd nf efforts were excellent
Hampson doesnt help his cause when in the last line of derfence and we need him to spoil, the only spoling he does is his getting in the way of his teammates
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Thought Martin easily won the ruck duel yesterday, simply becuae around the ground he superior by a long way. His workrate and 2nd nf efforts were excellent
Hampson doesnt help his cause when in the last line of derfence and we need him to spoil, the only spoling he does is his getting in the way of his teammates
Are you for real WP? Hammertime is awesome! Watch the replay closely! He trains like a beast!
He runs through the banner! He taps the ball! He limps like a champ! He handballs out the back! He runs under the ball like no other! He spoils his teammates like an All Australian! He even gets injured like an elite! FACT!
Go to the games! :rollin
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Go to the games! :rollin
I do maybe that's my problem ;D
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Martin had 23 touches and convincingly defeated Hampson around the ground. We effectively played one short with Hampson in the side
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Martin had 23 touches and convincingly defeated Hampson around the ground. We effectively played one short with Hampson in the side
As Hampson taps the ball to the oppositions advantage, can't spoil marks in our back line and fails to kick goals from 10 cm out, they effectively have an extra player while we are playing one down, I'm calling it two short with Hampson in the side.
If nothing else gives it away then facing the wrong way when he gets a possession should make it obvious
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Yep
Knocks it into corridor a lot in his own d50
Wtf
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It's amazing the dribble written on here
Experts in today's paper comment how good he is with tap work
Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Keyboard warriors ( nuffers )
Please open your eyes
Keep up the good work Hammer
Also look at Griggs gains from having a dominant tap ruckman
Grigg having a great year
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Trains good eh
Expert jack
Expert blobbo
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It's amazing the dribble written on here
Experts in today's paper comment how good he is with tap work
Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Keyboard warriors ( nuffers )
Please open your eyes
Keep up the good work Hammer
Also look at Griggs gains from having a dominant tap ruckman
Grigg having a great year
Yep, 100% agree, blinkers on most of these.
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The dribble you two write is indeed remarkable
Jack the Master of clutching at straws clutching big time deferring to the huns experts.
Dimma is a moron.
Delusional, Rosie coloured glasses fan-boys nfi
Grigg and Hampson. Future tigers premiership Hero's
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The dribble you two write is indeed remarkable
Jack the Master of clutching at straws clutching big time deferring to the huns experts.
Dimma is a moron.
Delusional, Rosie coloured glasses fan-boys nfi
Grigg and Hampson. Future tigers premiership Hero's
As opposed to the expert comments from yourself..... :huh
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It's amazing the dribble written on here
Experts in today's paper comment how good he is with tap work
Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Keyboard warriors ( nuffers )
Please open your eyes
Yep, 100% agree, blinkers on most of these.
Ironically from you two, the two with the 'Me think therefore me right' approach.
And in the context of a history littered with endless examples of early calls, wrong calls and supposed 'inside info', all which time inevitably proves wrong.
Lmfao :lol
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It's amazing the dribble written on here
Experts in today's paper comment how good he is with tap work
Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Keyboard warriors ( nuffers )
Please open your eyes
Keep up the good work Hammer
Also look at Griggs gains from having a dominant tap ruckman
Grigg having a great year
You are right, it is the amazing the dribble on here.
I notice you had nothing to say when his work rate compared to Martins was bought up.
Seriously, in what reality do you sing the praises of a player whos direct opponent had 17 more possession?
Actually you have not countered any of the valid criticisms of Hamspon, just resorted to calling those that raised them names?
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It's amazing the dribble written on here
Experts in today's paper comment how good he is with tap work
Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Keyboard warriors ( nuffers )
Please open your eyes
Keep up the good work Hammer
Also look at Griggs gains from having a dominant tap ruckman
Grigg having a great year
Mate, u must be back in the fray, kissing ass at the RFC because you're tune has changed immensely.
Do they know what you usually say?
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LMAO.
Old man Vickery must have fair idea, he still wont have a bar of Jjackstar
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Yep. Called him a 'clown' and a 'fool' IIRC
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Thought Martin easily won the ruck duel yesterday, simply becuae around the ground he superior by a long way. His workrate and 2nd nf efforts were excellent
Hampson doesnt help his cause when in the last line of derfence and we need him to spoil, the only spoling he does is his getting in the way of his teammates
Agree. Martin was vastly superior around the ground. Martin according to some pundits was the best player for Brisbane on the day. Hampson has to work on his marking. We need him to be able to take contested grabs on a regular basis.
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Thought Martin easily won the ruck duel yesterday, simply becuae around the ground he superior by a long way. His workrate and 2nd nf efforts were excellent
Hampson doesnt help his cause when in the last line of derfence and we need him to spoil, the only spoling he does is his getting in the way of his teammates
Agree. Martin was vastly superior around the ground. Martin according to some pundits was the best player for Brisbane on the day. Hampson has to work on his marking. We need him to be able to take contested grabs on a regular basis.
I think just running on the field for hampson is an achievement in itself
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Thought Martin easily won the ruck duel yesterday, simply becuae around the ground he superior by a long way. His workrate and 2nd nf efforts were excellent
Hampson doesnt help his cause when in the last line of derfence and we need him to spoil, the only spoling he does is his getting in the way of his teammates
Agree. Martin was vastly superior around the ground. Martin according to some pundits was the best player for Brisbane on the day. Hampson has to work on his marking. We need him to be able to take contested grabs on a regular basis.
I think just running on the field for hampson is an achievement in itself
He trains for that!
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
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Hardwick comes out and praises not once but twice in past 7 days ( fact )
Also talks up Vickery
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
At least you have acknowledged it
😉
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
At least you have acknowledged it
😉
That guff aside, truth be known I just want you and WAT to be the best you can be. Its all I've ever asked of anyone here and there are alot of good people on this forum. If theres something to be learnt from the rest of us, its honesty and integrity. That and respect and honour.
You should try it all sometime. You might even like it.
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
At least you have acknowledged it
😉
That guff aside, truth be known I just want you and WAT to be the best you can be. Its all I've ever asked of anyone here and there are alot of good people on this forum. If theres something to be learnt from the rest of us, its honesty and integrity. That and respect and honour.
You should try it all sometime. You might even like it.
I've met Jackstar He seems to be a great bloke who loves his club. Just because he has a very different view on certain players, doesn't mean he lacks integrity.
:gotigers
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
At least you have acknowledged it
😉
That guff aside, truth be known I just want you and WAT to be the best you can be. Its all I've ever asked of anyone here and there are alot of good people on this forum. If theres something to be learnt from the rest of us, its honesty and integrity. That and respect and honour.
You should try it all sometime. You might even like it.
I've met Jackstar He seems to be a great bloke who loves his club. Just because his has a very different view on certain players, doesn't mean he lacks integrity.
:gotigers
That's one term I wouldn't have associated with Jackstar
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🎣🎣🎣🎣
We all know you aint fishin Einstein
At least you have acknowledged it
😉
That guff aside, truth be known I just want you and WAT to be the best you can be. Its all I've ever asked of anyone here and there are alot of good people on this forum. If theres something to be learnt from the rest of us, its honesty and integrity. That and respect and honour.
You should try it all sometime. You might even like it.
I've met Jackstar He seems to be a great bloke who loves his club. Just because his has a very different view on certain players, doesn't mean he lacks integrity.
:gotigers
Good bloke like Chaplin Dimma grigg
At the end of the day isn't that what really matters?
Everybody love everybody pls
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You know something
Chappy and Grigga are good blokes
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I sure they are saints
Richmond -
Heaps of list blockers but they are good blokes
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Grigg will finish top 5 in B&F
No list clogger
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Grigg will finish top 5 in B&F
No list clogger
Grigg isn't the main issue at the club, worse players have won flags. Plays within his limitations which some others could actually learn from.
We do however, need a proper ruckman.
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As bad as Raines who came #2
Glorified teacher pet award
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I'm starting to suspect that Stalin doesn't rate Shaun Grigg.
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Definitely in my best 22
Will finish top 5 in B&F no doubt
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Definitely in my best 22
Will finish top 5 in B&F no doubt
I wouldn't be surprised this happens with this poor excuse of a coaching panel. "Sideshow" Ty will probably end up in there too because "he provides a contest" :rollin
The bar isn't set very high for most at Punt Rd.
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
Bump.
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Definitely in my best 22
Will finish top 5 in B&F no doubt
I wouldn't be surprised this happens with this poor excuse of a coaching panel. "Sideshow" Ty will probably end up in there too because "he provides a contest" :rollin
The bar isn't set very high for most at Punt Rd.
Hackson won the bloody thing.....'nuff said....
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
Bump.
I would essentially have every non tall on the list in front of him for a variety of reasons.
Perhaps bar bellis and Andrew Moore.
I still doubt Drummond is a real person.
It's a worrying sign for this club the like of short. Lambert. Lloyd have gone past senior leader (list blocker) grigg
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You know something
Chappy and Grigga are good blokes
Does a "good bloke" complete a year of his contract when he has conceded his knee is "stuffed".
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
Bump.
I would essentially have every non tall on the list in front of him for a variety of reasons.
Perhaps bar bellis and Andrew Moore.
I still doubt Drummond is a real person.
It's a worrying sign for this club the like of short. Lambert. Lloyd have gone past senior leader (list blocker) grigg
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
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Wouldn't be in my best 22
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
Bump.
I would essentially have every non tall on the list in front of him for a variety of reasons.
Perhaps bar bellis and Andrew Moore.
I still doubt Drummond is a real person.
It's a worrying sign for this club the like of short. Lambert. Lloyd have gone past senior leader (list blocker) grigg
Who would be, along with two ruckmen?? Current players.
Waiting.. :sleep
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Your lacking words for that to be a true English sentence.
Upon reading it 25 times I think you are saying what's my best 22. If so refer to best 22 thread unlrss they got deleted in the last purge
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Your lacking words for that to be a true English sentence.
Upon reading it 25 times I think you are saying what's my best 22. If so refer to best 22 thread unlrss they got deleted in the last purge
Your lacking in common sense but excelling in stupidity.
Who is in your best 22 including two ruckmen, current players available?
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He stuffing well said refer the best 22 thread where he has posted his side numerous times
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For the less educated.
Who is in your best 22 including two ruckmen, current players available?
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For the less educated.
Who is in your best 22 including two ruckmen, current players available?
Give it a rest mate. Enough
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Snip! Enough with hijacking threads with off-topic personal slanging match crap! >:( :banghead.
Now back to the topic!
Hampson's knee didn't come right for tomorrow night and he's out.
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Snip! Enough with hijacking threads with off-topic personal slanging match crap! >:( :banghead.
Now back to the topic!
Hampson's knee didn't come right for tomorrow night and he's out.
The biq question is will Maric be able to cover Hampsons five odd possessions a game?
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can he stand by with his hands on his hips after the ruck contest with the same aplomb and as often as hammer?
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Not sure but I also have doubts on his ability to let the ball slip through his fingers in a marking contest
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All very concerning really.
hopefully hammer can have a quick recovery
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Agree, extremely concerning.
Hopefully Jackstar can have some factual advice that the Hammerinator will be back the week after
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looking forward to the training report
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We it's all a bit can Maric sit down and pretend to have an injury?
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Im concerned Maric wont rack up a decent KPI in the area of TSOC (Time Spent Observing Contest)
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:lol
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Snip! Enough with hijacking threads with off-topic personal slanging match crap! >:( :banghead.
Now back to the topic!
Hampson's knee didn't come right for tomorrow night and he's out.
Also got the flu as well
😉
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Agree, extremely concerning.
Hopefully Jackstar can have some factual advice that the Hammerinator will be back the week after
He actually has the flu as well
So wouldn't of played anyway this week
Knee or no knee 😉
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Agree, extremely concerning.
Hopefully Jackstar can have some factual advice that the Hammerinator will be back the week after
He actually has the flu as well
So wouldn't of played anyway this week
Knee or no knee 😉
OK thanks do you think he will be back the week after
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Was he still MVP on the track?
Do you think Maric will wear a black arm band and face the wrong way at the 16 minute mark as a show of respect?
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Snip! Enough with hijacking threads with off-topic personal slanging match crap! >:( :banghead.
Now back to the topic!
Hampson's knee didn't come right for tomorrow night and he's out.
Also got the flu as well
😉
Ask for a dam doctors certificate
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Agree, extremely concerning.
Hopefully Jackstar can have some factual advice that the Hammerinator will be back the week after
He actually has the flu as well
So wouldn't of played anyway this week
Knee or no knee 😉
OK thanks do you think he will be back the week after
Hammer back next week
Bye Ivan
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Ivan being shot means Hampson is no less Shyte
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Has Ivan had a possession
Seriously
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Has Ivan had a possession
Seriously
We get it Jack you dont rate ivan, actually you never have, you bagged the club when they recruited him
But dont make Hampson out to better than what he is. He is a good tap ruckman who the majority of the time is a liability around the ground
It is an indictment on our club that he is the best we have right now
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Has Ivan had a possession
Seriously
We get it Jack you dont rate ivan, actually you never have, you bagged the club when they recruited him
But dont make Hampson out to better than what he is. He is a good tap ruckman who the majority of the time is a liability around the ground
It is an indictment on our club that he is the best we have right now
We need to give the whole coaching, recruiting and list management staff a pat on the back for the great work for holding their nerve, sticking to their guns and backing their own judgement on our rucks. Maybe they all need a 2 year contract extension for not bending when every man & it's dog on the planet thought we needed to recruit more rucks.
Well done RFC. :clapping
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When he gets over his foot injury lets throw Elton in the ruck, could not possibly be worse than what we are going with ;)
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The experts.... :lol :lol.....won't miss him eh.... :rollin :rollin
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Has Ivan had a possession
Seriously
Ivan was a good player who is now completely cooked. Hamspud is a shyte player who is still shyte. FACT.
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Where are the experts?????
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
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you nuffers, in the thrid qtr the hitouts to advantage were 6-1 in our favour, ruckwork wasnt the problem.
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Won hit outs, completely useless around the ground and couldn't take a mark to save himself - so basically he was Hamspud-like.... :clapping
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Won hit outs, completely useless around the ground and couldn't take a mark to save himself - so basically he was Hamspud-like.... :clapping
Maric is shot, will no doubt announce his retirement at seasons end or possibly even sooner, there was a reason he was playing VFL. Essentially we have no ruckman at the club capable of around the ground dominance in the air. Another area the recruiters seem to think everything is ship shape when blind Freddy can see it was and is something we urgently need to address.
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Like it or lump it I think tonight clearly showed Hampson is easily the best ruck option we have atm.
We dont have a high quality ruckman it has been clear for years. I keep saying we only have two High quality kpps the rest are hampson like!!!! yet people think the priority shoud be mids again.
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Where are the experts?????
Im here
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Where are the experts?????
Im here
Oh Dear ::) ::)
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
If your going to put aside Maric had a gazillion more hit outs to advantage than Hamspud had last week (ok let's humor ourselves and reality and do this for a moment), Maric actually had just 4 less disposals around the ground than Hampson had last week.
Four.
Yet that's the difference for you and WAT between a ruckman you back to the hilt and a ruckman you don't rate.
LMFAO
You guys have NFI
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Poor Maric = Great Hamspud
But must agree Ivy looks just about gone
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
If your going to put aside Maric had a gazillion more hit outs to advantage than Hamspud had last week (ok let's humor ourselves and reality and do this for a moment), Maric actually had just 4 less disposals around the ground than Hampson had last week.
Four.
Yet that's the difference for you and WAT between a ruckman you back to the hilt and a ruckman you don't rate.
LMFAO
You guys have NFI
If only you knew 😉
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
If your going to put aside Maric had a gazillion more hit outs to advantage than Hamspud had last week (ok let's humor ourselves and reality and do this for a moment), Maric actually had just 4 less disposals around the ground than Hampson had last week.
Four.
Yet that's the difference for you and WAT between a ruckman you back to the hilt and a ruckman you don't rate.
LMFAO
You guys have NFI
Did you watch the game???? Do you have a clue or are you a complete fool????? Maric couldn't mark the ball, no hitouts to advantage, he was a mess, the worst single performance from a player in years. If you don't think we missed Hampson last night you are clearly lacking in grey matter. :help
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
If your going to put aside Maric had a gazillion more hit outs to advantage than Hamspud had last week (ok let's humor ourselves and reality and do this for a moment), Maric actually had just 4 less disposals around the ground than Hampson had last week.
Four.
Yet that's the difference for you and WAT between a ruckman you back to the hilt and a ruckman you don't rate.
LMFAO
You guys have NFI
Did you watch the game???? Do you have a clue or are you a complete fool????? Maric couldn't mark the ball, no hitouts to advantage, he was a mess, the worst single performance from a player in years. If you don't think we missed Hampson last night you are clearly lacking in grey matter. :help
Your wrong on hitouts to advantage. But as i said, put this aside.
Read my post again. There is not a great deal of difference between both of them around the ground. Maric is shot but Hampson is only marginally better (i.e. a spud) based on recent games.
Capisce?
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Where are the experts?????
Who knows 😉
Just goes to shows the experts that pot Hammer
Did Ivan know what color the ball was tonight
Embarrassing
If your going to put aside Maric had a gazillion more hit outs to advantage than Hamspud had last week (ok let's humor ourselves and reality and do this for a moment), Maric actually had just 4 less disposals around the ground than Hampson had last week.
Four.
Yet that's the difference for you and WAT between a ruckman you back to the hilt and a ruckman you don't rate.
LMFAO
You guys have NFI
Did you watch the game???? Do you have a clue or are you a complete fool????? Maric couldn't mark the ball, no hitouts to advantage, he was a mess, the worst single performance from a player in years. If you don't think we missed Hampson last night you are clearly lacking in grey matter. :help
Your wrong on hitouts to advantage. But as i said, put this aside.
Read my post again. There is not a great deal of difference between both of them around the ground. Maric is shot but Hampson is only marginally better (i.e. a spud) based on recent games.
Capisce?
Nor did maric stand by with his hands on his hips after the ruck contest. He at least tried to have an impact with second efforts. He did block for his midfielders, but just looked incapable of bending down himself to attack the loose the ball as he could before his body gave up. The bullocking attack on the ball, sadly, was largely amiss, yet he still crapped all over Hampson in this regard.
But considering WAT doesnt even under understand the concept of second efforts, we could never expect him to understand just how important it is for your ruckman to make them.
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Player a being a dud doesn't make player b any better
The logic of a demented chimpanzee several on here
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:facepalm.....
Let me get this right, you actually like The Spud as a player?
Or are you just taking the pee?
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Tigers are riddled with injury. Lets all get the noose out & lynch them all.
Like the lynch mob all of us here are. We have to deal with what we have. Midfielders were a huge problem last night. Blame them also
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Think most on here acknowledge that Hampson is ahead of Maric. Doesn't mean Hampson is good.
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They're both poo.
Maric was tapping it right down to Port players all night.
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:facepalm.....
Think most on here acknowledge that Hampson is ahead of Maric. Doesn't mean Hampson is good.
Hampson is what we have, he is doing a very good job for us this year and that was proven beyond doubt last night, if anyone thinks we didn't miss him they are kidding themselves. Is he the future, no, but that does not mean we don't need him now and he is doing the job!!
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:lol
doing a good job at what?
The only thing he does is get his hand to ball more than, or equal to the opposition ruck.
what else?
all you do is sit there is there and slag off at those that actually comment on what he does and doesnt do, but cannot come up with anything more that "watch the game" "or he is doing his job".
Never do you say what we should be looking for or what exactly you think his job as a ruckman should entail.
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LMAO at Maric playing like Hampsud and WAT and Jackstar talking Hamspon up
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LMAO at Maric playing like Hampsud and WAT and Jackstar talking Hamspon up
Nope. Maric's performance was worse than an average Hampson performance. And Maric was competing against a third string ruckman who is really a KPD.
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LMAO at Maric playing like Hampsud and WAT and Jackstar talking Hamspon up
Nope. Maric's performance was worse than an average Hampson performance. And Maric was competing against a third string ruckman who is really a KPD.
Don't underestimate Trengove. He was a gun as a junior and played ruck. Was very dominant in that position.
Having said that, Maric was very very poor. It's as if he was punishing the club for having him play in the magoos.... :whistle..
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LMAO at Maric playing like Hampsud and WAT and Jackstar talking Hamspon up
Nope. Maric's performance was worse than an average Hampson performance.
That is just different stink and texture of the poo, at the end of the day it is still poo
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
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LMAO at Maric playing like Hampsud and WAT and Jackstar talking Hamspon up
Nope. Maric's performance was worse than an average Hampson performance.
That is just different stink and texture of the poo, at the end of the day it is still poo
Yes, both are poo, but Maric is currently the smellier nugget.
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
Well thats just it Hampson isn't the best option.
I would be playing Griffiths in the ruck full time and Vickery in Magoos and then when Griffiths injuries himself play Vickery in the ruck full time. By the time Vickery also injuries himself or has a fainting spell hopefully Griffiths will be right to go again and the two can keep cycling through the ruck whilst alternating injuries/fainting spells.
In the forward line I would either bring in a small forward most likely Rioli or Short and if we did need another tall then bring in either Mcbean, Choi or whoever it probably wont make any difference.
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And further more the reason why RFC wont do this is it is an admission of guilt that they royally stuffed up by trading our second rounder for a spud
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Same reason jack keeps praisin the idiot
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
Well thats just it Hampson isn't the best option.
I would be playing Griffiths in the ruck full time and Vickery in Magoos and then when Griffiths injuries himself play Vickery in the ruck full time. By the time Vickery also injuries himself or has a fainting spell hopefully Griffiths will be right to go again and the two can keep cycling through the ruck whilst alternating injuries/fainting spells.
In the forward line I would either bring in a small forward most likely Rioli or Short and if we did need another tall then bring in either Mcbean, Choi or whoever it probably wont make any difference.
:lol
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Same reason jack keeps praisin the idiot
Yep. As we all know, went too early did Jackstar with the praise . All about saving face rather than a genuine untainted debate about hampsons abilities. Thats why the logic is so skewed.
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
Well thats just it Hampson isn't the best option.
I would be playing Griffiths in the ruck full time and Vickery in Magoos and then when Griffiths injuries himself play Vickery in the ruck full time. By the time Vickery also injuries himself or has a fainting spell hopefully Griffiths will be right to go again and the two can keep cycling through the ruck whilst alternating injuries/fainting spells.
In the forward line I would either bring in a small forward most likely Rioli or Short and if we did need another tall then bring in either Mcbean, Choi or whoever it probably wont make any difference.
You actually watched Griffiths ruck ? Lol
Hampson is the best option of what we got
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Perhaps the most important position on the field yet when referring to our division, the sentence must end in "out of what we got".
Club only neglected this position for 10 years or more.
What a poohole organizsation. Fair dinkum.
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
Well thats just it Hampson isn't the best option.
I would be playing Griffiths in the ruck full time and Vickery in Magoos and then when Griffiths injuries himself play Vickery in the ruck full time. By the time Vickery also injuries himself or has a fainting spell hopefully Griffiths will be right to go again and the two can keep cycling through the ruck whilst alternating injuries/fainting spells.
In the forward line I would either bring in a small forward most likely Rioli or Short and if we did need another tall then bring in either Mcbean, Choi or whoever it probably wont make any difference.
You actually watched Griffiths ruck ? Lol
Hampson is the best option of what we got
And what an indictment on our club.
And I've watched Griffiths ruck and he is far better option as pinch hitter than anyone else on our list
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Must play your best option
Not your worst
It's a disgrace that Ivan has played on this year
Was gone last year
Clubs fault
Well thats just it Hampson isn't the best option.
I would be playing Griffiths in the ruck full time and Vickery in Magoos and then when Griffiths injuries himself play Vickery in the ruck full time. By the time Vickery also injuries himself or has a fainting spell hopefully Griffiths will be right to go again and the two can keep cycling through the ruck whilst alternating injuries/fainting spells.
In the forward line I would either bring in a small forward most likely Rioli or Short and if we did need another tall then bring in either Mcbean, Choi or whoever it probably wont make any difference.
You actually watched Griffiths ruck ? Lol
Hampson is the best option of what we got
And what an indictment on our club.
And I've watched Griffiths ruck and he is far better option as ponch hotter than anyone else on our list
A ponch hotter? Is that a new type of position WP? Sounds more like a warm mexican overcoat! :lol
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Perhaps the most important position on the field yet when referring to our division, the sentence must end in "out of what we got".
Club only neglected this position for 10 years or more.
What a poohole organizsation. Fair dinkum.
Most important position?
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Perhaps the most important position on the field yet when referring to our division, the sentence must end in "out of what we got".
Club only neglected this position for 10 years or more.
What a poohole organizsation. Fair dinkum.
Most important position?
What activity are we talking here?
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Hammer back this week
🔨⏱😉
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Hammer back this week
🔨⏱😉
If that's going to be the highlight of the team……... :rollin
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Hammer back this week
🔨⏱😉
Wow i cant wait.
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Hammer back this week
🔨⏱😉
Wow i cant wait.
Either can I
Quality tap ruckman
Am sitting front row this week in Aisle 47
Will get a great view
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Quality tap ruckman
Now Jack, seriously you keep saying what a quality tap ruckman he is and yes he is a reasonable tap ruckman
But what else does he offer on a consistent basis? Surely he needs to do more than tap the ball at ruck contests?
Rather than calling me a nuffer for not rating him as a player who offers little but his ruck work for once answer the question
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Wasn't referring to you as a NUFFER WP
I was referring to the two posters who highlight me on there signature banner
Sorry if I have offended you WP 😉
Back to Hammer
If he is the best option , we are in trouble
Yes and we are in trouble
Blame the club , not the player
Most dishonest club in the AFL
Don't get me started on Ty either
That's another story for another topic
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So you cant wait to watch, from front row seats, a ruckman who is the best option but not very good?
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So you cant wait to watch, from front row seats, a ruckman who is the best option but not very good?
Mate go every week
Reality is we are poor at present
Do you go ?
I await your reply
Or are you one of these supporters who don't go as a protest ?
Please don't get me started on this
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Wasn't referring to you as a NUFFER WP
I was referring to the two posters who highlight me on there signature banner
Sorry if I have offended you WP 😉
Back to Hammer
If he is the best option , we are in trouble
Yes and we are in trouble
Blame the club , not the player
Most dishonest club in the AFL
Don't get me started on Ty either
That's another story for another topic
You can just turn the banners off.
:thumbsup
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How ?
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So you cant wait to watch, from front row seats, a ruckman who is the best option but not very good?
Mate go every week
Reality is we are poor at present
Do you go ?
I await your reply
Or are you one of these supporters who don't go as a protest ?
Please don't get me started on this
Mate answer the question. Dont try to deflect it.
And yes i go to most home games.
Answer please
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Yes he is our best option
And not the best in the comp
But does the job
No deflection here
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Yes he is our best option
And not the best in the comp
But does the job
No deflection here
:thumbsup
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We need a new ruckman. Neither Hampson nor Maric should be retained for the long term. Should consider trading Hampson at the end of the year for draft picks if he has market value.
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Yes he is our best option
And not the best in the comp
But does the job
No deflection here
And what an indictment on our club.
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I would keep Hampson as a back up, find a number 1 ruck and draft a junior ruck.
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We are in for daw apparently
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We are in for daw apparently
Daw and Chol.... :shh
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We are in for daw apparently
Daw and Chol.... :shh
:pray
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Daw's a hack.
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Daw's a hack.
yep - pass
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I would take Daw. Play him number one ruck and watch him grow. He is still a baby in ruckman years.
Most rucks don't come good til 24-25 and that includes his teammate Toddy.
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I would keep Hampson as a back up, find a number 1 ruck and draft a junior ruck.
:thumbsup
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Unless we could somehow get Lobb from GWS I wouldn't be paying too much for a ruck.
Darcy Cameron, a yank and a decent ruck not getting a game at another club that would only need to be an upgrade on Hamspud who, if we're serious, should be stuffed off ASAP.
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Thats why we are in this place now by not "paying too much" for players, you pay for what you get and we have the players that show that.
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No, Moneyblair just targeted the wrong players.
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Anyone that thinks that a ruckman who stands there with his hands on hips and watches the ensuring contest unfold around him after the ruck contest is doing his job has no right question others knowledge or understanding of the game.
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just as anyone that thinks you should not look at the ball as you kick it should just stay out football discussions all together
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How about those people who think we dont pay enough and get what we get yet paid a second rounder for the worst stuffing player in the league.
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Back to the topic
Straight back in is Hammer
🔨⏱
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And anyone who thinks that picking up players that can't get a get at another club is going to be an A grader at Richmond
Anyway Hanson is our option and think he's been better at the 1%ers this year.
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Hammer or vickery
Hammer or Griffiths
Hammer or Maric.
Hammer or Soldo
LMFAO ITS A NO BRAINER IIIITTTTSSSS HAMMMERTIME.
Just be honest it is sad but true he is easily the best option of a lot of poor options.
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What is that claw, Cadburies Dookie sampler?
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Hammer or vickery
Hammer or Griffiths
Hammer or Maric.
Hammer or Soldo
LMFAO ITS A NO BRAINER IIIITTTTSSSS HAMMMERTIME.
Just be honest it is sad but true he is easily the best option of a lot of poor options.
Correct
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What is that claw, Cadburies Dookie sampler?
Can confirm yes
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He's the epitome of where we've been as a club for 30 years. Just because he's our best option doesn't mean he's a good option. He's FINALLY playing at a somewhat AFL level (a low level at that) and suddenly he's got his own cheer squad. He's the perfect example of our supporters accepting mediocrity and I don't know about everyone else but I am tired of mediocrity
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hopefully he has a good game tonight
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hopefully he has a good game tonight
x2
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He's the epitome of where we've been as a club for 30 years. Just because he's our best option doesn't mean he's a good option. He's FINALLY playing at a somewhat AFL level (a low level at that) and suddenly he's got his own cheer squad. He's the perfect example of our supporters accepting mediocrity and I don't know about everyone else but I am tired of mediocrity
Very good post
Agree
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He's the epitome of where we've been as a club for 30 years. Just because he's our best option doesn't mean he's a good option. He's FINALLY playing at a somewhat AFL level (a low level at that) and suddenly he's got his own cheer squad. He's the perfect example of our supporters accepting mediocrity and I don't know about everyone else but I am tired of mediocrity
Finally someone 'nails it'. :clapping
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Absolute hack
Question do you go to the games ?
Amazing when he went off for a rest in last quarter Swans got the clearances
How long till he pretends to get hurt
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He is going well enough tonight and certainly a huge upgrade on Maric.
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He is going well enough tonight and certainly a huge upgrade on Maric.
The best three possessions you'd ever see. :clapping
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Am at the game
Killing it Hammer
Given us first use of ball
Going well 🔨⏱
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Am at the game
Killing it Hammer
Given us first use of ball
Going well 🔨⏱
:clapping
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In defence taps it to dangerous areas for other team all the time wtf
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In defence taps it to dangerous areas for other team all the time wtf
:clapping :clapping
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In defence taps it to dangerous areas for other team all the time wtf
:clapping :clapping
Straight down the throat of Miles..
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Killing it tonight.. :clapping
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Grundy gets 26 odd possessions for the pies but Hampson gets a handful and posters are singing his praises
Welcome to mediocrity for another 30 years
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Best ruckman we have and he is doing what he should be doing. :clapping
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Best ruckman we have and he is doing what he should be doing. :clapping
Should he be doing the bare minimum? Because thats what he is doing.
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Woeful last quarter from the Spud. Watch the replay! FACT!
His tap work was a disgrace. He basically fed Bomtempelli at every opportunity. FACT!
On one occasion on the wing in the last our mids set up boundary side and he taps it over his head right into the centre corridor where the mids for the dogs just ran easily onto the ball.
He's bloody clueless.
But his 4 effective stats make our ruck predicament all the more worthwhile. Thanks BJ, DanTheMan, Dumma & Betamax for the giving us the gift that just keeps giving. :rollin
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His set up in the second half was absolutely reprehensible.
Doesnt know what he is doing
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Am at the game
Killing it Hammer
Given us first use of ball
Going well 🔨⏱
Was at the game, same old same old.
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He played great, l will be disappointed if the Bulldogs don't name him in their best players. :banghead
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LMAO at the two man circle jerk over a bloke who feeds the opposition mids as much as his own, stands there like a stale bottle of pee and barely touches the ball around the ground
Best ruckman we have and he is doing what he should be doing. :clapping
Should he be doing the bare minimum? Because thats what he is doing.
It really does highlight just how little some understand the game and what is required, doesnt it ?
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:lol
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Thought Hammer was good last night
First use of ball compared to previous week
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Thought Hammer was good last night
First use of ball compared to previous week
:thumbsup
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Thought Hammer was good last night
First use of ball compared to previous week
And what else did he offer?
Marks, kicks etc? You know what the Dees get from Gawn, GWS get from Mummy?
That's the issue here
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Thought Hammer was good last night
First use of ball compared to previous week
Maric played the same as Hampson has all year. Dominated the taps but didn't touch the ball around the ground. Funny how you can rate two identical games completely different. Perhaps trying to save face? Or troll?
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Hampson had 2 more marks and 6 more possessions than Ivan had the previous week
If you watch the game
Centre bounce clearances last night were due to first use of ball
Don't let your hatered for a player cloud your views
Would have Hammer first ruck every week
And funny enough , players actually do as well
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Hampson had 2 more marks and 6 more possessions than Ivan had the previous week
If you watch the game
Centre bounce clearances last night were due to first use of ball
Don't let your hatered for a player cloud your views
Would have Hammer first ruck every week
And funny enough , players actually do as well
Hammer took 2 more marks than usual and doubled his possessions. Good on him. If you actually attended games instead of watching them on the TV you'd see how little he covers the ground
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The holding the ball he, just stops and waits for a while... Then works out te earth is continuing to rotate so he pretend to handball like he's having a fit
The match winning goal, he should there with his hand on hips having a rest. The guy walked past him... He was not expecting the ball to come back into his area looked genuinely shocked. Cause es got the footballing iq of a fence post
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Tap work was good, took a telling mark in defense, interception was great that ended up in a goal and another handball through traffic that ended up in a goal, he had another good game. :thumbsup
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Hampson had 2 more marks and 6 more possessions than Ivan had the previous week
If you watch the game
Centre bounce clearances last night were due to first use of ball
Don't let your hatered for a player cloud your views
Would have Hammer first ruck every week
And funny enough , players actually do as well
Dont hate him and I've agreed as a tap ruckman he is our best option
But if all you can come up with is his stats are better than Ivan's then you are avoiding the the question.
Outside of his tap work what does he give us exactly? I'd argue very little and that's the issue here. Go and watch the other top ruckmen in the comp and see what else they give week in and week oit and you'll clearly see how far of that pace Hampson is.
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Another 3 votes from the Footscray midfield for the big teapot. :clapping
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true he did get first touch of the ball 45 times but half of them went to the Bulldog midfielders. The last quarter was telling.
Seriously his awareness of his own players should have red hats & red noses on
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Hampson had 2 more marks and 6 more possessions than Ivan had the previous week
If you watch the game
Centre bounce clearances last night were due to first use of ball
Don't let your hatered for a player cloud your views
Would have Hammer first ruck every week
And funny enough , players actually do as well
Hammer took 2 more marks than usual and doubled his possessions. Good on him. If you actually attended games instead of watching them on the TV you'd see how little he covers the ground
Actually go week
Sat in Row A
Aisle 46 with other OER posters last night
We all agreed hammer played well
Please your self
He will get a game next week
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Hampson had 2 more marks and 6 more possessions than Ivan had the previous week
If you watch the game
Centre bounce clearances last night were due to first use of ball
Don't let your hatered for a player cloud your views
Would have Hammer first ruck every week
And funny enough , players actually do as well
Hammer took 2 more marks than usual and doubled his possessions. Good on him. If you actually attended games instead of watching them on the TV you'd see how little he covers the ground
Actually go week
Sat in Row A
Aisle 46 with other OER posters last night
We all agreed hammer played well
Please your self
He will get a game next week
Funny, I was in row A aisle 45 and not a lot going on in the other aisles in terms of people turning up? Hampson getting a game means absolutely nothing. Reece will play next week as will Hunt and Ellis. Geez they must be good players too
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Just behind the point post where you
Level 1
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He is the least of the club's problems.
That says plenty about where we are at.
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Imo another servicable game for the big mug.
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lmao @ "another servicable game" for the big mug.
There, fixed.
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lol
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Bump
Great goal
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Looked like Dean Cox kicking that goal.
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Yes very good... :snidegrin
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Having a very good game today.. :clapping
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Going along nicely today is Hammer 😉👍
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Here we go.....the brains trust are back
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As are the blinker brigade... :snidegrin
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Playing against a renown superstar and do it it all on his lonesome. :rollin
He should poll the three Brownlow votes on this performance. I'd be surprised if he don't get 10 coaches votes too this week. Taking a champ ruck of the game to the cleaners is Hammertime!!!
:cheers :rollin :thumbsup :shh :rollin :lol
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That's funny as plenty on here wanted to Luenberger when he was up for trade
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That's funny as plenty on here wanted to Luenberger when he was up for trade
I didn't. I want a ruckman that can contribute and play the game.
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That's funny as plenty on here wanted to Luenberger when he was up for trade
:snidegrin That was the best comeback of the decade. True many posters wanted Luenberger to come to RFC but l was not one of them ;D
:gotigers
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But the majority on here did
Like chalk and cheese today
🔨🔨🔨⏱⏱⏱⏱
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But the majority on here did
Like chalk and cheese today
🔨🔨🔨⏱⏱⏱⏱
:thumbsup
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Thought he was very good in qtrs 1 to 3. Thought his final qtr was average, thought he ran out of puff to honest
I expect to hear about a contract exteniosn before the season's over. Still not sold on him but he is our only real option at the moment
Though it is critcial we target another ruckman during trade fortnight.
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Best match around the ground, but let's be honest , like Hunt, it was the minimum standard we should be expecting...and again....Essendon mids sure loved some of his tap work.....
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Bump
Great goal
Posted that from your phone at the game I'm assuming....
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Bump
Great goal
Posted that from your phone at the game I'm assuming....
Yep
Sit in N6
Happened right in front of me
Thought it was Dean Cox for a moment
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Since we have such a superstar can we give Carlton another draft pick as I feel we ripped them off
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..and again....Essendon mids sure loved some of his tap work.....
Ate them up. Hard not to when your being force fed.
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..and again....Essendon mids sure loved some of his tap work.....
Ate them up. Hard not to when your being force fed.
You obviously didn't see his goal and his marking as you probably weren't there
Enuff said
🔨🔨⏱⏱
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..and again....Essendon mids sure loved some of his tap work.....
Ate them up. Hard not to when your being force fed.
You obviously didn't see his goal and his marking as you probably weren't there
Enuff said
🔨🔨⏱⏱
Saw his goal. Saw plenty of goals. It was ok but there were plenty better. FACT.
We are, however, talking about his tap work. Try to keep up.
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..and again....Essendon mids sure loved some of his tap work.....
Ate them up. Hard not to when your being force fed.
You obviously didn't see his goal and his marking as you probably weren't there
Enuff said
🔨🔨⏱⏱
The BB will never give him credit, why bother..
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41.37 %
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For him that was a sublime piece of skill to pull the ball in from the boundary throw in and then to have awareness of where the goals were and swivel around and score. Probably the best piece of individual skill i have seen him display since he has been at the club. Is definitely growing in confidence and if he can get his body right then he is not the worst ruckman going around, just needs some help from time to time and we have to except he will have the odd brain explosion but that's just the player he is.
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For him that was a sublime piece of skill to pull the ball in from the boundary throw in and then to have awareness of where the goals were and swivel around and score. Probably the best piece of individual skill i have seen him display since he has been at the club. Is definitely growing in confidence and if he can get his body right then he is not the worst ruckman going around, just needs some help from time to time and we have to except he will have the odd brain explosion but that's just the player he is.
True. If he continues in this vein he is probably better than Zac Clarke....
Still think Longer is a better prospect though, as long as recurrent concussions aren't an issue.
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And then he literally taps it down the throat of the opposition .......
Even the sun will shine on a black dogs arse once every so often.
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And then he literally taps it down the throat of the opposition .......
Even the sun will shine on a black dogs arse once every so often.
:lol
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I personally think a ruckman is kidding himself if he's not clunking crucial marks in defense or creating an option up forward marking the footy. Around the ground also must be more imposing. If your not breaking double digit possessions as a minimum your just not doing enough IMO.
I think taps are secondary to this as good midfields can always nullify supposed "taps to advantage" not saying taps aren't important just not as important as clunking marks or creating options around the ground especially in defense or up forward.
I look at the General Mark Lee or Peter Moore as a guide to what is expected as a consistently useful Ruckman & contributer to the team.
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Hammer on SEN now
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Hammer on SEN now
Man crush, jack? ;D
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Just playing good footy as the SEN said
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The entire AFL community can see he is playing well this year, but the BB experts can't .. :whistle
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Just playing good footy as the SEN said
Playing better footy is a more accurate way to describe it. I think he will get a contract extension too.
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The entire AFL community can see he is playing well this year, but the BB experts can't .. :whistle
Post of the week
Surely there is an award for you 👍
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anyone swinging off hammers nuts care to tell me how his second efforts after the ruck contest were on the weekend?
Did he actually contribute to the contest or just stand there with his hands on his hips, again?
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Just playing good footy as the SEN said
Playing better footy is a more accurate way to describe it. I think he will get a contract extension too.
x 2
though we need to target another ruckman in the trade period
anyone care to tell me how his second efforts after the ruck contest were on the weekend?
Did he actually contribute to the contest or just stand there with his hands on his hips, again?
I thought around the ground he was a lot better this week. Certainly, made more contests, gave much better 2nd efforts and actually chase. This week after a marking contest when the pill hit the deck he tried to get involved....
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in fairness those two were a bit more that usefull contribeters to their team.
and there are some very astute football followers on here who seem to think a ruckman only has to jump and tap the ball to do his job, which is very much at odds with what you are saying
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yep probably his best display when talking around the ground work - not saying much as were working off a pretty low base, but it was there. I'm not adverse to keeping him on for another year or two as backup to a new number 1 ruck whilst we develop one or two young rucks we will hopefully draft this year!
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Yep, he's actually a pretty decent BACK UP ruckman.
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He's so bad there is enough room for him to improve for the next sixty years and still be a charity case.
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It's the club who never bothered to scout or develop rucks as a primary position..so now the fans can
get excited by tiny increments of improvement over several years, instead of rising to elite level.
Lol
Now they play a Henry Munsta with confidence issues.
:snidegrin
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The entire AFL community can see he is playing well this year, but the BB experts can't .. :whistle
Post of the week
Surely there is an award for you 👍
Participation trophies for everyone. Its the Richmond way.
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Even you might get one Dooks for your contribution to OER 😜
👊⏱ ( that means Dooks time 😉)
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anyone swinging off hammers nuts care to tell me how his second efforts after the ruck contest were on the weekend?
Did he actually contribute to the contest or just stand there with his hands on his hips, again?
Gotta watch out for them squirrels
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
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Actually if you look closely
His tackle count is up
And he does clear the path for the onballers
Amazingly the players love his tap work dominance
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
I think their hands are busy cupping, FOREPAWS! I meant forepaws
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Actually if you look closely
His tackle count is up
And he does clear the path for the onballers
Amazingly the players love his tap work dominance
Wow. :facepalm
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Actually if you look closely
His tackle count is up
And he does clear the path for the onballers
Amazingly the players love his tap work dominance
Wow. :facepalm
Is he talking our players or opposition?
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
"lol" - ??
Yes, "Nic Mac" is one who does. I said there aren't many. Who else?
I stand by my point. Hampson's problem is taking marks and presenting around the ground. Few ruckman do much in ground ball/clearance situations, including some of the best rucks in the league.
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
"lol" - ??
Yes, "Nic Mac" is one who does. I said there aren't many. Who else?
I stand by my point. Hampson's problem is taking marks and presenting around the ground. Few ruckman do much in ground ball/clearance situations, including some of the best rucks in the league.
Since his two work is so good is it possible that he could actually tap it to our players
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Actually if you look closely
His tackle count is up
And he does clear the path for the onballers
Amazingly the players love his tap work dominance
Wow. :facepalm
He thinks he's in with the club, more than he actually is.
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Actually if you look closely
His tackle count is up
And he does clear the path for the onballers
Amazingly the players love his tap work dominance
Wow. :facepalm
Is he talking our players or opposition?
Who knows. Its all the same when you have pre-conceived ideas about a bloke.
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
"lol" - ??
Yes, "Nic Mac" is one who does. I said there aren't many. Who else?
I stand by my point. Hampson's problem is taking marks and presenting around the ground. Few ruckman do much in ground ball/clearance situations, including some of the best rucks in the league.
Since his two work is so good is it possible that he could actually tap it to our players
He does tap it to the opposition a bit, but on balance I think his tap work is pretty good.
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
"lol" - ??
Yes, "Nic Mac" is one who does. I said there aren't many. Who else?
I stand by my point. Hampson's problem is taking marks and presenting around the ground. Few ruckman do much in ground ball/clearance situations, including some of the best rucks in the league.
Since his two work is so good is it possible that he could actually tap it to our players
He does tap it to the opposition a bit, but on balance I think his tap work is pretty good.
The Bomp and the Essendon mids certainly appreciated his work
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Maric was pretty good at it, Disgree on Gawn, he luvs throwing his weight around. Nic nat becomes a midfielder once the contest is over. the sudanese dude from nought seems to enjoy trying to inflict pain once the ball hits the deck.
Positioning yourself for a handball if you cant direcly influence the contest is fine too. even a hafl arsed block from a big bloke can buy enough time to dispose of the ball.
Hammer is too busy holding his hips together, or feigning injury when he gets beaten, to do any of these on a regular basis
andt yes there a few that dont put in the required second efforts, it doesnt make it acceptable though
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Maric was pretty good at it, Disgree on Gawn, he luvs throwing his weight around. Nic nat becomes a midfielder once the contest is over. the sudanese dude from nought seems to enjoy trying to inflict pain once the ball hits the deck.
Positioning yourself for a handball if you cant direcly influence the contest is fine too. even a hafl arsed block from a big bloke can buy enough time to dispose of the ball.
Hammer is too busy holding his hips together, or feigning injury when he gets beaten, to do any of these on a regular basis
andt yes there a few that dont put in the required second efforts, it doesnt make it acceptable though
Fair points. Although I think you overstate the output of the rucks you mentioned. Trengrove, the fill in ruck from Port, is probably one who competes well when the ball hits the deck. He struggles in hit outs though.
I think we can all agree that we need to replace Hampson. I just don't think he's as bad as people make out.
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https://vid.me/h8kc
Don't you just love his defensive intensity :banghead
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https://vid.me/h8kc
Don't you just love his defensive intensity :banghead
Is he playing a game of footy or catching a bus
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https://vid.me/h8kc
Don't you just love his defensive intensity :banghead
Is he playing a game of footy or catching a bus
I've seen 80 year olds with walkers put more effort into catching a bus than him
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:lol
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One ticket to the stuffing Council Tip please Mr Bus Driver
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https://vid.me/h8kc
Don't you just love his defensive intensity :banghead
That's how Jakstar coaches
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https://vid.me/h8kc
Don't you just love his defensive intensity :banghead
That's how Jakstar coaches
😉
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Word is the Hawks midfield are excited for this week, 100% hit outs to advantage regardless of which ruckman wins the tap
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lol!
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
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Really good game?
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I am still looking for the first one let alone waiting for the 'again'
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
You'd like to bet again? I'd imagine it's at least a double or nothing by now....
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lol
how sad
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
When was the first? Care to share?
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
When was the first? Care to share?
When he played against us.
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
When was the first? Care to share?
When he played against us.
Brilliant! :lol
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:lol
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Notice that none of these squirrels ever address this when it is bought up?
While I dont think Hammer is any more than a decent back, there aren't many many ruckmen that really get busy when the ball hits the deck at stoppages. Even Goldstein and Big Gawn mostly stand around and wait for a handball or maybe lay a half assed block to protect their mids.
I reckon taking marks and linking up around the ground is his biggest issue, but he is improving in this regard (slightly).
Lol yeah nic mac doesn't get it much true. Him and Hampson very similar really
"lol" - ??
Yes, "Nic Mac" is one who does. I said there aren't many. Who else?
I stand by my point. Hampson's problem is taking marks and presenting around the ground. Few ruckman do much in ground ball/clearance situations, including some of the best rucks in the league.
do you really want to compare hamspud to the nic nat, grundys, goldies, mummies, gawns of the world ?
ive been saying for some time the idiot is an ok as a 3rd of 4th string back up.
the worrying think is the club rates him at #1
circus. that on top of the chaplin-love and the missmanagment of vickery is shocking list management in china someone would of been shot
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Oh look, Tyrones form has been a little dissapointing, but he's a great guy. And from a list manage my perspective, that's important to us.
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
When was the first? Care to share?
When he played against us.
Took Griff to the cleaners. Not sure that even really counts
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Bet you he has a really good game
Again !!
When was the first? Care to share?
When he played against us.
Took Griff to the cleaners. Not sure that even really counts
No it doesn't. Griff is not a backman. Just because he can roost the ball out of defence doesn't make him a backman. He also had no one helping him as he was often one out and Hammer was having a day out. :whistle
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Just the two posessions and 3 clangers in the first half..... :help
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So crap breaking the laws of math :cheers
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:lol
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Just the two posessions and 3 clangers in the first half..... :help
Knew you would pipe up
You should be at the game , but that's another story
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Just the two posessions and 3 clangers in the first half..... :help
Knew you would pipe up
You should be at the game , but that's another story
Aye, the truth hurts
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Just the two posessions and 3 clangers in the first half..... :help
Knew you would pipe up
You should be at the game , but that's another story
You need a new way to feel superior
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Another tap straight down a hawthorn players throat.... :banghead
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Loved that but where he resting totally flat footed and the ball accidentally went in his direction so he actually had to move
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In the last quarter when he dropped the chest mark and then proceeded to paddle it to himself on the ground about five times do they count as hit outs to advantage ?
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4th quarter. His 5th possesion of the day was a personal highlight. 9 iron slice off the side of the boot (under no pressure). Turnover.
Bang Hawthorn goal 51 pts up
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4th quarter. His 5th possesion of the day was a personal highlight. 9 iron slice off the side of the boot (under no pressure). Turnover.
Bang Hawthorn goal 51 pts up
I was just happy he kicked it in the right direction......baby steps
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Him trying to gather the ball off the ground after dropping it like a hot potato was the funniest 20 seconds I've seen in a long long time. :ROTFL
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Geez he was bad today.
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Him trying to gather the ball off the ground after dropping it like a hot potato was the funniest 20 seconds I've seen in a long long time. :ROTFL
:lol
Still doesnt beat the fresh airy handball a few months back, but yeah twas funny poo
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Geez Martin was good again....that's about it.
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Geez he was bad today.
Appallingly bad. A 2 metre procession of clangers
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No Hammertime today
Disgraceful
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:gobdrop
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holy crap batman
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Him trying to gather the ball off the ground after dropping it like a hot potato was the funniest 20 seconds I've seen in a long long time. :ROTFL
Just needs a sound score, take your pick Yakkety Sax, Monty Pythons 'Liberty Bell March' or perhaps 'Mana Mana' by the muppets.
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Today he showed why so many people are critical of him
He was pathetic
Won the hitouts but around the ground, zero, zilch, nada - he was embarrassing
Allowing Ceglar to skip to the top of the square in fhe final qtr to gift them their first goal.
In the 2nd fly one handed for a mark and then when it hits the gorund not move even though the ball was at his feet.
Comedy capers in pur forward 50 in the boundary as mentioned by others, again pathetic
And then in the final qtr having the audactiy to bleat to Griffiths about not protecting and blocking the space
Please :banghead
No one can defend him this week he was shocking
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
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In the 2nd fly one handed for a mark and then when it hots the gorund not move even though the ball was at his feet.
Saw that. Took nearly the rest of the quarter to stand back up (okay realistically he over 5 seconds which is an extraordinary amount of time for a professional athlete)
No one can defend him this week he was shocking
I'm sure some will try!
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
So that leaves 20 who were average to bad.
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
So that leaves 20 who were average to bad.
There was 16 or so average to bad
And there was half a dozen that were insipid and Hamspon is in that category
We wasn't average to bad he was pathetic
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
So that leaves 20 who were average to bad.
There was 16 or so average to bad
And there was half a dozen that were insipid and Hamspon is in that category
We wasn't average to bad he was pathetic
16, thats a bloody lot in a team of 22, makes the pathetic ones stand out more.
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Gee wiz take those Hampson coloured glasses off!
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
bump.
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Insipid. Trade if possible. limitations exposed when the ball hit the deck.
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Good fourth ruck option......
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
bump.
Rance
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
Bump.
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
Bump.
Alex rance
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Good fourth ruck option......
5th or 6th ...
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Good fourth ruck option......
5th or 6th ...
At VFL level maybe
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I luved the way he trotted along 10 m from the contest in the 3rd, while a team mate was outnumbered, but then got moving like he meant business when the ball was knocked back within his 5m comfort zone.
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Yep, he was bad, no problem with that. But, apart from Martin, who else was actually any good??
Rance
Bump.
Alex rance
Bump
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I would think the last 5 posts are considered trolling ;)
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I would think the last 5 posts are considered trolling ;)
I would think you and others have been warned about playing moderator
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I would think the last 5 posts are considered trolling ;)
I would think you and others have been warned about playing moderator
:lol :clapping
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2 possessions & 2 clangers. :rollin
Mumford has 10 already.
But he's doing a good job. :clapping
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2 possessions & 2 clangers. :rollin
Mumford has 10 already.
But he's doing a good job. :clapping
But you wouldnt meet a nicer bloke
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Trains well....
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You guys are too harsh, he must be trying as he always is resting his hands on his knees
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Trains well....
Trains very well
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:lol
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
Am at the game
Are you ?
I think not
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
Am at the game
Are you ?
I think not
Hey Einstein, enlighten us with more of your 'theories'
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
Am at the game
Are you ?
I think not
That was going to be my next one
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Good mark, not
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Up to 4 disposals and 4 clangers now. Doubling his output :clapping
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If you can't take a mark on a perfect day out in front you may as well not play football anymore
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If he's given another contract then we're just not serious about being a professional club that's in the business of winning football matches....could easily have find a couple of better ruckmen in the state leagues for what he costs...
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
Am at the game
Are you ?
I think not
I was at the game and he was yet again terrible around the ground
As for hitouts - straight down the throats of the GWS mids
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Better than Maric
If you don't like it support someone else
Am at the game
Are you ?
I think not
I was at the game and he was yet again terrible around the ground
As for hitouts - straight down the throats of the GWS mids
Pw3nd
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I like how "being at the game" gives you an imaginary ranking.
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I like how "being at the game" gives you an imaginary ranking.
It does.
It's like how Chaplin being a list blocking fudge muffin - gives him a better insight to explain how RFC issues is a lack of footballers and a over draft of list blocking fudging muffins
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He was right though, we lack class LOL
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He was right though, we lack class LOL
Takes one to know one I think is the expression
( not u, lady troy)
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after today's display...what can I say. Most of them played like they had told they were getting the arse, probably rightly so if that is how they respond after last weeks dribble of poo.
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The irony is that back in 2010 we ended up winning 6 matches and avoided the wooden spoon by proving that all the talk at the time of us being the "worst side since Fitzroy" was nonsense......fast forward 7 years and we'll likely only finish on 7 wins - one win more than 2010- but take Rance out of the side and we win 1, maybe 2 matches and actually are the worst since Fitzroy.
Progress under Halfstep. :clapping
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The irony is that back in 2010 we ended up winning 6 matches and avoided the wooden spoon by proving that all talk of us being the "worst side since Fitzroy" was nonsense......fast forward 7 years and take Rance out of the side and we win 1, maybe 2 matches and actually are the worst since Fitzroy.
Progess under Halfstep. :clapping
Remove martin & rance and I'd back fitzroy :whistle
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Take both of them out and I'd back University....
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BTW - those posts were meant to be in the "Leadership" thread not this stupid Hamspud troll thread....
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I was going to post another video of his pathetic defensive effort but I think it's clear to everyone who isn't delusional that he's a spud
If he's given another contract then we're just not serious about being a professional club that's in the business of winning football matches....could easily have find a couple of better ruckmen in the state leagues for what he costs...
Sad thing is we probably have to give him a 1 year contract as insurance.
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Did everyone see his handball attempt in the first quarter on the wing, when under minimal pressure he half connected with the side of the ball and it went between the GWS and Richmond player
LMFAO
But apparently if you were "at the game" the imaginary outcome was quite different.
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I was going to post another video of his pathetic defensive effort but I think it's clear to everyone who isn't delusional that he's a spud
If he's given another contract then we're just not serious about being a professional club that's in the business of winning football matches....could easily have find a couple of better ruckmen in the state leagues for what he costs...
Sad thing is we probably have to give him a 1 year contract as insurance.
Unfortunately, he's the best spud we have in the ruck......
List management is so poor, it's beyond a joke. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Did everyone see his handball attempt in the first quarter on the wing, when under minimal pressure he half connected with the side of the ball and it went between the GWS and Richmond player
LMFAO
But apparently if you were "at the game" the imaginary outcome was quite different.
Actually saw that
Was poor
He wasn't the only one though
Players " jogging " down the ground behind play wasn't good
Upside of day , Pots were only $6.50 and the food on offer was great from the food vans
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Fast reaching the lows of previous ruckmen at this club.
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Where is Angus ?
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Stuff it here's the video anyway (hey mods, how come you don't make it possible to embed videos like you can images/gifs?)...
https://vid.me/lIxf
What this highlights is Hammers key flaws and why he should be upgraded on ASAP. First I'll acknowledge he got the tap (which was pretty ineffective)
First, he goes to ground while Mummy keeps his feet in a centre bounce
While Hampson stumbles to the ground like a baby giraffe and takes forever to find his feet again Mumford is able to apply a half tackle, get the ball and handball to a teammate
At this point Hampson is on the left side of the centre circle while play moves to the wing and he is no longer in the screen
Couple of scraggy hand balls and tackles until Mumford follows up from his handball and applies a shepherd on Lambert to allow Devon Smith a clear path to go forward with a handball
Good old Hammer back on the screen now and he's managed to walk to the middle of the centre circle (albeit more towards the wing but still in the centre square)
Ball is handballed to a player near him so he turns from a walk into a slow jog for 1 second and decides it's all too hard to get in a defensive position and returns to a walk
AND HE'S FINALLY MADE IT TO THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE CENTRE CIRCLE :clapping :clapping
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Reckon he was winded
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Brown (Jonathan) reckons hamspud good enough #1 ruck 2017?
Oh boy
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Wow. If this guy had a footy brain and skill to excecute the basics of the game he'd be a good ruck.
He's just useless as a player. Does nothing (besides his touch on the goal line :clapping) and wins the taps but more go to either the opposition or no one than our players. Does he even know where he's supposed to tap the footy?
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His around the ground efforts were non existent tonight
The taps mean nothing when he wont make any effort to anything else.
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His around the ground efforts were non existent tonight
The taps mean nothing when he wont male any effort to anything else.
Really, so the marks in defense, bringing the ball to the ground in the forward line :snidegrin and touching the ball on the goal line to save that goal shows "no effort to do anything else".. :huh :huh
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And don't forget Jacks mark and goal in the 3rd quarter , perfect body positioning by Hammer to allow Jack a free run at ball
Jack was very appreciative running up to Hammer as he ran back for Centre bounce
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Yeah. Some don't see things like that.
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Yeah. Some don't see things like that.
Most don't
🔨⏱
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And how good was his touch on the goal line in the last quarter
😉👍
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His around the ground efforts were non existent tonight
The taps mean nothing when he wont male any effort to anything else.
Exactly. Lets not forget his 0 possession first half :lol
Bunch of Einsteins back on his train to nowhere.
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Yeah. Some don't see things like that.
Most don't
🔨⏱
We do, its just that "touches on the line" and "positioning" are footy 101 and, the last bastion of praise of rucks who cant kick, tap in the right direction or even connect a handball.
0 possessions in the first half. Ended up with 7 but had 4 clangers and gave away stupid frees.
Lmfao
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Seriously
The 50metres against him was a disgraceful decision
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Seriously
The 50metres against him was a disgraceful decision
The umpiring was very poor. Frustrating
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Seriously
The 50metres against him was a disgraceful decision
:thumbsup
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And how good was his touch on the goal line in the last quarter
😉👍
If you actaully took time to read my other posts you will know that i actually gave him credit for that
Was the only decent thing he did all night
Perhaps rather than defending him constantly you should try and take rose coloured hampson labelled glasses off and actually give him a few very warranted whacks for his lack of effort at contests.
You know when he taps it to the ground and just watches the game from that moment on. Thatsi s unacceptable
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took a couple of good defensive marks and made sure the ball came to ground in the forward line too ( even though he should have held a couple of those)
The reality is that is the barest of minimum you expect from a ruckman if he is going to take you where you want to go, not the sort of game that deserves praise lavished on him
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Some of his tap work to the blindside for the collingwood players to run onto was truly breathtaking
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:lol
according to some the game has gone past needing to win contested ball/clearances, so it really doesnt matter :whistle
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Did nothing half the rucks currently running around in the state leagues couldn't do....
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Did nothing half the rucks currently running around in the state leagues couldn't do....
Exactly
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To the BB.... :facepalm...just.... :facepalm
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i suppose your rose colored glasses prevent you from actually countering any of the points put forward?
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Bring back Browne
Least he had a ticker
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i suppose your rose colored glasses prevent you from actually countering any of the points put forward?
Likewise, go back a page and read what I posted. Additionally I will say this one final time. Hampson is not the way forward but what or who else do we have?? He is doing a good job under the circumstances and watch the game again from last night, he did some very good things. Griff as his backup was completely useless and more useless around the ground. Until we recruit another 1-2 ruckmen Hampson is it. But start looking at what he does do instead of looking for fault all the time.
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perhaps then it is you that needs to read what has been written.
whether u comprehend it is another matter i suppose......
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perhaps then it is you that needs to read what has been written.
whether u comprehend it is another matter i suppose......
Obviously you can't comprehend it either.
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what i comprehend is that you jump to his defence and have a go at at those that lay critism on him, even when that critism is balanced and warranted, but when pushed for any countering arguments either say he doing his job, without ever explaining what his job is, or admit he is not the way forward
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His around the ground efforts were non existent tonight
The taps mean nothing when he wont male any effort to anything else.
Really, so the marks in defense, bringing the ball to the ground in the forward line :snidegrin and touching the ball on the goal line to save that goal shows "no effort to do anything else".. :huh :huh
Bump.
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and.......?
how is that relevant to my last post?
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what i comprehend is that you jump to his defence and have a go at at those that lay critism on him, even when that critism is balanced and warranted, but when pushed for any countering arguments either say he doing his job, without ever explaining what his job is, or admit he is not the way forward
There. Isn't that his job...doing what i said in my post???
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I like how some people on here just refuse to live and let live.
:snidegrin
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I like how some people on here just refuse to live and let live.
:snidegrin
Ain't that the truth. :help
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(http://www.unprecedentedmediocrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Ferguson-Truth.jpg)
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Hampson 7 possessions
Grundy 19 possessions
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Hampson 7 possessions and one touch on the goal line
Grundy 19 possessions
EFA
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Hampson 7 possessions and one touch on the goal line
Grundy 19 possessions
EFA
You forgot to mention hampsons 'positioning'.
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Hampson 7 possessions and one touch on the goal line
Grundy 19 possessions
EFA
You forgot to mention hampsons 'positioning'.
And bringing the ball to ground.
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Hampson 7 possessions and one touch on the goal line
Grundy 19 possessions
EFA
I didn't mention it because it was more than cancelled by his taps to advantage for the pies
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The data is in!
Hitouts to advantage Richmond vs Collingwood:-
Griffiths 4/10 (40.0%)
Grundy 4/17 (23.5% )
Hammer 7/33 (21.2%)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIc36iVUAAFiwU.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TigerlandTone/status/761703036108419073
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Stats.... :lol
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Why worry about stats when you can see with your eyes hammer is a gun
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Stats.... :lol
Yep who needs stats when you can see with your eyes how awesome Hammer is at his ruck work. Cotchin was beside himself when he found himself unopposed at the opening bounce, if only Hammer knew which team he played for
(https://media.giphy.com/media/vTwMXV1KpursI/giphy.gif)
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Even when the bounce favours him he stuffs up the tap........
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' FFs dusty what are u doing'
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The collingwood wings run towards the middle where the ball is whilst...
Houli and bellis kind of jog a bit looking unsure about life
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At least it was a tap to advantage
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:thumbsdown
If you were at the game, your magical powers of perception would have confirmed it was another tap to advantage.
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I go to every game - do you?
Hammer played well.🔨⏱
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🔨⏱
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better than maric
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I go to every game - do you?
Hammer played well.🔨⏱
I do not. May i kiss your feet oh great enlightened one?
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Stats.... :lol
Yep who needs stats when you can see with your eyes how awesome Hammer is at his ruck work. Cotchin was beside himself when he found himself unopposed at the opening bounce, if only Hammer knew which team he played for
(https://media.giphy.com/media/vTwMXV1KpursI/giphy.gif)
Have a look again, look at where the midfielder should have been and the ball lands, but instead he was blocked because he didn't get in front of the Pies player at the bounce, but hey you won't see that with blinkers on....
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Stats.... :lol
Yep who needs stats when you can see with your eyes how awesome Hammer is at his ruck work. Cotchin was beside himself when he found himself unopposed at the opening bounce, if only Hammer knew which team he played for
(https://media.giphy.com/media/vTwMXV1KpursI/giphy.gif)
Have a look again, look at where the midfielder should have been and the ball lands, but instead he was blocked because he didn't get in front of the Pies player at the bounce, but hey you won't see that with blinkers on....
:lol
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Reckon Dusty ran to wrong space
End of story
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As you usually have one player behind the ruckman which was Cotch
Don't know why Dusty ran there
Cotch is there for the handball backward not the tap
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Whos was the blocked midfielder, Moore?
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As you usually have one player behind the ruckman which was Cotch
Don't know why Dusty ran there
Cotch is there for the handball backward not the tap
Bounce favoured him and gave him more than enough time to see where everyone was and that there was only a Collingwood player in the space he tapped it to.... is clearly too slow of mind and reflex....
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As you usually have one player behind the ruckman which was Cotch
Don't know why Dusty ran there
Cotch is there for the handball backward not the tap
Bounce favoured him and gave him more than enough time to see where everyone was and that there was only a Collingwood player in the space he tapped it to.... is clearly too slow of mind and reflex....
What you don't think that Richmond mid should have been in front and there instead of getting blocked easily? Wouldn't that have been the set play?
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Stats.... :lol
Yep who needs stats when you can see with your eyes how awesome Hammer is at his ruck work. Cotchin was beside himself when he found himself unopposed at the opening bounce, if only Hammer knew which team he played for
(https://media.giphy.com/media/vTwMXV1KpursI/giphy.gif)
Have a look again, look at where the midfielder should have been and the ball lands, but instead he was blocked because he didn't get in front of the Pies player at the bounce, but hey you won't see that with blinkers on....
OMG :facepalm
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' FFs dusty what are u doing'
:lol
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Stats.... :lol
Yep who needs stats when you can see with your eyes how awesome Hammer is at his ruck work. Cotchin was beside himself when he found himself unopposed at the opening bounce, if only Hammer knew which team he played for
(https://media.giphy.com/media/vTwMXV1KpursI/giphy.gif)
Have a look again, look at where the midfielder should have been and the ball lands, but instead he was blocked because he didn't get in front of the Pies player at the bounce, but hey you won't see that with blinkers on....
You realise midfielders can't set up in that centre circle right? Look at where the 3 Collingwood midfielders are set up. It's all well and good to say "Moore/Martin should have pushed past their man and got to the fall of the ball" but why should Hampson be exempt of any responsibility to tap it to our players advantage? Hampson tapped it right where Collingwood wanted it, in between the triangle of Collingwood mids. Allowed them to block for their skipper for the easy clearance. Just a reminder we were losing the clearances 11-1 at one stage. Talk about rose coloured glasses, you can't honestly defend that tap
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Even when the bounce favours him he stuffs up the tap........
Contorts his body to tap it to the wrong spot. Made it much harder than it needed to be :lol
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Maybe he can't tap it with his left hand.
Surely he was aware where Cotchin was ?
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Maybe he can't tap it with his left hand.
Surely he was aware where Cotchin was ?
Didn't have to, was a perfect bounce for a deft touch to Cotchin.
Not sure. Hampson either has trouble knowing which way we're going or which team he plays for (thinking it's the latter) so good chance he had no idea he should've tapped it to Cotchin
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pee-er :lol
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Can confirm he definitely has trouble knowing which way we are going.
On the odd occasion he has actually got a kick has shaped up the wrong way
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Can confirm he definitely has trouble knowing which way we are going.
On the odd occasion he has actually got a kick has shaped up the wrong way
Agree
It's happened twice this year
As Flea always say, big men aren't very smart
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Can confirm he definitely has trouble knowing which way we are going.
On the odd occasion he has actually got a kick has shaped up the wrong way
It's stuffing hilarious :lol :lol
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The coaches votes are in. Hammers direct opponent was collingwoods bog.
Coaches' votes (Hardwick & Buckley)
RICHMOND v COLLINGWOOD
10 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
8 Alex Rance (Rich)
5 Shaun Grigg (Rich)
5 Dustin Martin (Rich)
1 Brodie Grundy (Coll)
1 Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-08/aflca-votes-round-20
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
Wait, I swear I posted a verrrrry similar post to this...
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
Wait, I swear I posted a verrrrry similar post to this...
Sorry, didn't see it. Nevertheless, I feel Chucky needs the reassurance that is given with reinforcement! ;D
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Better than Maric
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
Wait, I swear I posted a verrrrry similar post to this...
yes I seen it
Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
Wait, I swear I posted a verrrrry similar post to this...
Sorry, didn't see it. Nevertheless, I feel Chucky needs the reassurance that is given with reinforcement! ;D
Thank you
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
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#getmajak
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
But u didn't capitalise the word fact
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
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Might have done something if he was given more than 5 games which he deserved on meri
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Might have done something if he was given more than 5 games which he deserved on meri
Yeah might have.....
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Yeah ...
Oh well let's play Chaplin fwd pocket and Tyrone till the 2nd comming
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Yeah ...
Oh well let's play Chaplin fwd pocket and Tyrone till the 2nd comming
Think you need to move on from Chaplin, new is he retired, might just be media speculation though.. :whistle
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Alright, hamspud resting forward whilst another promising players carrer goes down th pissa
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I cant believe this thread has generated 52 pages when it can be summed up in one post .
Shaun has really exceeded expectations this year but only because most thought he was a lost cause.
Good tap ruckman and can clunk the odd mark ....thats about it .
We desperately need another ruckman who is a competitive beast ....a younger version of Ivan .
Shaun can stay as back up.
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
Funnily enough I bet that Hampson would be even worse in the VFL than Elton and Mcbean and actually if you managed to read the reports or go to the games you would note both arent doing too bad
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Griffiths and Vickery have already shown a non-total spaz can get the ball somewhat when playing ruck
There is no reason McBean. Chol. Soldo. Elton. Would not also be significant upgrade 'around the ground'
Furthermore Hampson is good at jumping But tapping it to the right spot is a different kettle of fish dumb as dog dropping as proven on thousands of occasions
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I cant believe this thread has generated 52 pages when it can be summed up in one post .
Shaun has really exceeded expectations this year but only because most thought he was a lost cause.
Good tap ruckman and can clunk the odd mark ....thats about it .
Except its been proven by statistics and observation that he isnt a good tap ruckman because he has a VERY low tap to advantage %.
May as well play 4 midfielders.
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I cant believe this thread has generated 52 pages when it can be summed up in one post .
Shaun has really exceeded expectations this year but only because most thought he was a lost cause.
Good tap ruckman and can clunk the odd mark ....thats about it .
Except its been proven by statistics and observation that he isnt a good tap ruckman because he has a VERY low tap to advantage %.
May as well play 4 midfielders.
Exactly may as well get the tallest biggest bodied midfielder we have (which in itself may be a problem) and play him ruck to at least create a contest so the opposition dont have 100% hit out to advantage
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We already did it w moore and it worked fairy well
One of the occasions hamspud was faking injury.
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We already did it w moore and it worked fairy well
One of the occasions hamspud was faking injury.
yeh the big stuffing bludger
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
Funnily enough I bet that Hampson would be even worse in the VFL than Elton and Mcbean and actually if you managed to read the reports or go to the games you would note both arent doing too bad
Go back and read the reports on the VFL when Hampson was there, I think you will see why he is now in the firsts.
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I cant believe this thread has generated 52 pages when it can be summed up in one post .
Shaun has really exceeded expectations this year but only because most thought he was a lost cause.
Good tap ruckman and can clunk the odd mark ....thats about it .
We desperately need another ruckman who is a competitive beast ....a younger version of Ivan .
Shaun can stay as back up.
Dead right. But people can't stop bagging him so that's what this thread is all about now.
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
Funnily enough I bet that Hampson would be even worse in the VFL than Elton and Mcbean and actually if you managed to read the reports or go to the games you would note both arent doing too bad
Go back and read the reports on the VFL when Hampson was there, I think you will see why he is now in the firsts.
Even if I read it from the pope himself I couldn't still understand it
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
Funnily enough I bet that Hampson would be even worse in the VFL than Elton and Mcbean and actually if you managed to read the reports or go to the games you would note both arent doing too bad
Go back and read the reports on the VFL when Hampson was there, I think you will see why he is now in the firsts.
Even if I read it from the pope himself I couldn't still understand it
As I thought.
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
No he isnt, like I said before would just about put any tall in his place, ie Griffiths, Elton, Mcbean. Hell I would even play your mate Batchelor there before hampson, the opposition would still get the hits to advantage but at least we wouldn't be a man down around the ground.
Elton and McBean... :clapping...killing it in the VFL aren't they and gee McBean really took to the AFL didn't he... :help
Funnily enough I bet that Hampson would be even worse in the VFL than Elton and Mcbean and actually if you managed to read the reports or go to the games you would note both arent doing too bad
Go back and read the reports on the VFL when Hampson was there, I think you will see why he is now in the firsts.
From a quick search his Vfl disposal stats are woeful.
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Go read the VFL reports from the coach, that's what I meant, not stats.
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Oh, so a fluff piece from the coach means he was killing it when the stats suggest otherwise?
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Also have it on good authority that grundy does not stand around in the middle of the ground with his hands on his knees, therefore he cant be trying hard enough if he isnt obviously knackered
Doesn't train as well as..... :shh
Wait, I swear I posted a verrrrry similar post to this...
Sorry, didn't see it. Nevertheless, I feel Chucky needs the reassurance that is given with reinforcement! ;D
No apology needed as I'm sure you didn't see it. I can't even find it now. Wonder where it might have went?
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Best option we have? So let me guess, you were happy with our finals losses because well, it was the best we were able to do? How about all the honourable losses in 2012/2013, were you happy because that was the best we could do? Geez talk about settling for mediocrity. You have the rosiest pair of glasses of the bunch. It's also laughable how much you rate our coach, I think you're the only one here that thinks he's any good
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Best option we have? So let me guess, you were happy with our finals losses because well, it was the best we were able to do? How about all the honourable losses in 2012/2013, were you happy because that was the best we could do? Geez talk about settling for mediocrity. You have the rosiest pair of glasses of the bunch. It's also laughable how much you rate our coach, I think you're the only one here that thinks he's any good
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Don't think that response was necessary. I just question how you can say "it's our best option so we should accept it" and wondered if you applied it to everything or only when it suited you? I think anyone would understand my post and be able to have a proper response. That, or you're just avoiding answering the question.
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Best option we have? So let me guess, you were happy with our finals losses because well, it was the best we were able to do? How about all the honourable losses in 2012/2013, were you happy because that was the best we could do? Geez talk about settling for mediocrity. You have the rosiest pair of glasses of the bunch. It's also laughable how much you rate our coach, I think you're the only one here that thinks he's any good
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Don't think that response was necessary. I just question how you can say "it's our best option so we should accept it" and wondered if you applied it to everything or only when it suited you? I think anyone would understand my post and be able to have a proper response. That, or you're just avoiding answering the question.
I said we have no choice.
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Best option we have? So let me guess, you were happy with our finals losses because well, it was the best we were able to do? How about all the honourable losses in 2012/2013, were you happy because that was the best we could do? Geez talk about settling for mediocrity. You have the rosiest pair of glasses of the bunch. It's also laughable how much you rate our coach, I think you're the only one here that thinks he's any good
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Don't think that response was necessary. I just question how you can say "it's our best option so we should accept it" and wondered if you applied it to everything or only when it suited you? I think anyone would understand my post and be able to have a proper response. That, or you're just avoiding answering the question.
I said we have no choice.
Yes we do Griffiths, Elton, McBean
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Hampson has been better than expected but still probably the worst player of all time
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Let's assume you are right. As you say, he is the best option for no. But as you have also said, his performance is not up to the standard we need. So, why would you care if others critique him for being not good enough?
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Best option we have at the moment, FACT, so I hope all of your constant complaining, moaning and whinging makes you all feel better because he isn't going to be dropped for the rest of the season unless he is injured.. :lol
Will more than likely line up for round 1 next year again against the Blues. So you can complain about that all pre season too.. :clapping
Let's assume you are right. As you say, he is the best option for no. But as you have also said, his performance is not up to the standard we need. So, why would you care if others critique him for being not good enough?
At this point in time he is playing well IMO. That's it, IMO, you all have your opinion and i have mine.
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news tonight said Hampson may attract interest from other clubs as he is out of contract but he is about to sign a new deal with us.
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-10/lloyd-hampson-resign-with-the-tigers
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Oh great. Another year of 'Hampson did this', 'hampson did that' 'Hampson touched the ball on the line'....
Look at Hampson. He can run. He can sit. He can talk. He can drink from a cup.
Lmfao
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2 more years of Hammer Time.
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2 more years of Hammer Time.
:banghead
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Trains well, good bloke, touches the ball on the line: have two more years.
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Must be a fantastic person too!
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2 more years of being exhibit A showing how bad our recruiting can be.
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Oh great. Another year of 'Hampson did this', 'hampson did that' 'Hampson touched the ball on the line'....
Look at Hampson. He can run. He can sit. He can talk. He can drink from a cup.
Lmfao
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol it's hilarious how his claim to fame is touching the ball on the line like any other ruckman does, even in the local leagues. Too bad he didn't do similar in the first game against Collingwood when it actually mattered. At least he learned...I guess
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The acceptance of fans of Hampson being the number 1 ruck is the prime exhibit why the RFC is a mediocre club, mediocre supporters accepting mediocrity.
I said at the start of the season we wouldn't win more than 10 games with Hampson in the side and will say that if Hampson is the ruck in the next two years we will win no more than 10 games in the season.
Welcome to mediocrity; an accepted thing by RFC mediocre supporters
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What are our options ? We got ourselves in this mess by not recruiting young rucks and now we have to deal with it
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Stuff some people dont listen, practically any other tall is an option as they will add something around the ground, ie griffiths, Elton, mcbean
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The acceptance of fans of Hampson being the number 1 ruck is the prime exhibit why the RFC is a mediocre club, mediocre supporters accepting mediocrity.
I said at the start of the season we wouldn't win more than 10 games with Hampson in the side and will say that if Hampson is the ruck in the next two years we will win no more than 10 games in the season.
Welcome to mediocrity; an accepted thing by RFC mediocre supporters
Stable.
Like a stagnant pond.
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Like Hardwick, why 2 years? One year would have been more than enough. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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If Hamspud plays more than eight games this year then we won't be making finals
Well you were all told and told early.
Here is another one to take to the bank, if Hampson is our number 1 ruckman in the next two seasons we have no chance of making finals
None, nada, zip, kaput, blitzstuffingreig
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Lolz at this club.
Lolz at the pooty board challenge that has gone nowhere.
Lolz at having a Sheila as pres
Lolz at gale
Lolz at rfc.
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Lol @ hamspud
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What are our options ? We got ourselves in this mess by not recruiting young rucks and now we have to deal with it
:banghead
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If Hamspud plays more than eight games this year then we won't be making finals
Well you were all told and told early.
Here is another one to take to the bank, if Hampson is our number 1 ruckman in the next two seasons we have no chance of making finals
None, nada, zip, kaput, blitzstuffingreig
Yep. Good call :clapping
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If Hamspud plays more than eight games this year then we won't be making finals
Well you were all told and told early.
Here is another one to take to the bank, if Hampson is our number 1 ruckman in the next two seasons we have no chance of making finals
None, nada, zip, kaput, blitzstuffingreig
Yep. Good call :clapping
Thanks I dont often toot my own horn but a certain couple of other posters tooting their own on the back of hampson is too far
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So, U thought you'd have a toot yourself. :clapping
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No big call saying Hampson is a spud. A blind man and his guide dog can see that.
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No big call saying Hampson is a spud. A blind man and his guide dog can see that.
:snidegrin
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No big call saying Hampson is a spud. A blind man and his guide dog can see that.
Well stuff me sideways then, what sees worse than a blind man and his guide dog as there are certain posters who can't stop singing his praises.
It's like Hammer this, Hammer that, Hammer is so good......blah blah blah......FACT
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No big call saying Hampson is a spud. A blind man and his guide dog can see that.
Well stuff me sideways then, what sees worse than a blind man and his guide dog as there are certain posters who can't stop singing his praises.
It's like Hammer this, Hammer that, Hammer is so good......blah blah blah......FACT
Look at Hammer. Hammer can walk. Hammer can talk. Hammer just scratched his brow.
Hammer is the best we have so let's celebrate his basic functioning as a human being.
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I no longer support the RFC. I'm just here for the entertainment and that's it.
The club is so bad that nothing or nobody can turn it around, nor does anyone with the capacity seem interested to do so.
RFC has reached an all time low.
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
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Only thing it "proves" is that Dan Richardson is still as clueless as ever.....
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
He's proven nothing.
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
He's proven nothing.
Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
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Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
this is a very foolish statement Jack
The "Majority"
Guarantee on this forum if you took a straw poll, the majority would be highly critically of this extension in particular the length
The minority in this case would be people like you
Have said it before it is an indictment on the RFC that this bloke is our best option in the ruck. Because although a reasonable tap ruckman around the ground he is a liability.. that is a FACt
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Well how did he get a two year contract?
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Well how did he get a two year contract?
How he got a contract is irrelevent.
The guy is an absolute liability on the field and the majority of fans can see this.
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Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
this is a very foolish statement Jack
The "Majority"
Guarantee on this forum if you took a straw poll, the majority would be highly critically of this extension in particular the length
The minority in this case would be people like you
Have said it before it is an indictment on the RFC that this bloke is our best option in the ruck. Because although a reasonable tap ruckman around the ground he is a liability.. that is a FACt
Agree. Hampson's major liability is his inability to have a presence around the ground. To win over his doubters he needs to show significant improvement in this area. A two year extension was not warranted. The statement by WP that "it is an indictment on the RFC that this bloke is our best option in the ruck" is spot on the mark. We will not progress until we get a better ruckman.
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Well how did he get a two year contract?
Pretty bloody easily I would have thought ::)
We have no one else
Do you not understand this very important point
Have said it before it is an indictment on the RFC that this bloke is our best option in the ruck. Because although a reasonable tap ruckman around the ground he is a liability.. that is a FACt
I am not surprised he got an extension because as I just said we have no one else. But and it's an important but... it should have been for 1 year not 2
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Well how did he get a two year contract?
Pretty bloody easily I would have thought ::)
We have no one else
Do you not understand this very important point
Have said it before it is an indictment on the RFC that this bloke is our best option in the ruck. Because although a reasonable tap ruckman around the ground he is a liability.. that is a FACt
I am not surprised he got an extension because as I just said we have no one else. But and it's an important but... it should have been for 1 year not 2
Yes. One year. Further list mismanagement as overseen by admin.
A team with Hampson as the up and coming ruckman. Oy vey !
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They're morons. Nfi
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Obviousky, they're not looking at any established options in the off season.
Stability.
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Obviousky, they're not looking at any established options in the off season.
Stability.
Change leads to chaos.
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As proven in the respective (loosely used term) US election campaigns
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If anyone could explain to me why we are planning on persisting with him as our no 1 ruck, that would be great.
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I'm just praying we have earmarked him for backup only.
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I'm just praying we have earmarked him for backup only.
Word is your prayers won't be answered.
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Oh look Shaun's become a very important player for us and is highly respected within our four walls...
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Oh look, in a funny sorta way, Shaun's not the most skilful player in the afl, but he enables us to structure up well. And that's important to us.
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I'm just praying we have earmarked him for backup only.
Word is your prayers won't be answered.
Tend to agree with this
One of our targets re-signed with their Club
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I'm just praying we have earmarked him for backup only.
Word is your prayers won't be answered.
Tend to agree with this
One of our targwts re-signed with their Club
Yep. An unfortunate outcome
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Who? Longer?
Tom Goodwin
Darcy Cameron
Toby Nankervis
Majak Daw
Tom Nicholls
Keegan Brooksby
McBean
Chol
Soldo
...all better options than Hamspud....
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Research.
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Who? Longer?
Tom Goodwin
Darcy Cameron
Toby Nankervis
Majak Daw
Tom Nicholls
Keegan Brooksby
McBean
Chol
Soldo
...all better options than Hamspud....
WTF would Longer resign with the Saints. Unless Hickey gets injured, Longer plays in the two's all year next year.
Come to Tigerland and unless he gets injured he play AFL every week. Longer is clearly a better footballer than Hampson.
You are in footy for such a short time and timing is everything- why waste time at a club when you are clearly their second or third choice for that position. It's not like he can get a bit fitter or stronger and play as a flanker.
Call me selfish but I'd be positioning myself where I've got the best opportunity to live my dream.
Anyway ....
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Who? Longer?
Yep
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
He's proven nothing.
Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
LOL at only a half okay season "proving everyone wrong" and "being the correct decision" for an extension.
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
He's proven nothing.
Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
LOL at only a half okay season "proving everyone wrong" and "being the correct decision" for an extension.
Half ok is being a tad generous.
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
Which rucks are worse is the question with the shorter answer
FFS Port aren't even playing a ruckman
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
Which rucks are worse is the question with the shorter answer
FFS Port aren't even playing a ruckman
I'll add to this - Which other club would he walk into and be their number 1 ruck, or, would they play ahead of an upcoming kid with more potential?
Very few. Maybe 1 or 2 if any.
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
Which rucks are worse is the question with the shorter answer
FFS Port aren't even playing a ruckman
I'll add to this - Which other club would he walk into and be their number 1 ruck, or, would they play ahead of an upcoming kid with more potential?
Very few. Maybe 1 or 2 if any.
Need to target those 1 or 2 teams at next year's trade table... :pray
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
Which rucks are worse is the question with the shorter answer
FFS Port aren't even playing a ruckman
I'll add to this - Which other club would he walk into and be their number 1 ruck, or, would they play ahead of an upcoming kid with more potential?
Very few. Maybe 1 or 2 if any.
Need to target those 1 or 2 teams at next year's trade table... :pray
:clapping
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Correct decision by the club giving him an extra 2 years
Will only get better and deserved the contract
Had little pre season this year due to operations on both ankles
Has carried ruck division all year
Proved 90% of posters here wrong
🔨⏱
He's proven nothing.
Majority of people think so
Your views are a very small minority who think not
LOL at only a half okay season "proving everyone wrong" and "being the correct decision" for an extension.
Half ok is being a tad generous.
Yeah but if I didn't at least give him a little credit all I'll get in return is "doing his job" "best option" "who else do we have" ect. Hopefully slight acknowledgement will rectify that but I'm still pessimistic.
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Out of interest, which rucks have been better this year?
Which rucks are worse is the question with the shorter answer
FFS Port aren't even playing a ruckman
Thats because they're all injured, Lobbe is back in this week.
Shouldn't be too hard to rattle off all those rucks that have gone better this year if the list is so big.
:shh
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McEvoy
Nic Nat
Trengrove
Kruezer
Gawn
Goldstein
Jacobs
Sandilands
Tippet
Mumford
Off the top of my head, there a probably a few more that should be in there
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
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Yep - wasn't too hard at all.... :shh
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
Yeah but who else ??
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
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McEvoy :lol
Nic Nat :thumbsup
Trengrove not a ruckman :shh
Kruezer :clapping
Gawn :thumbsup
Goldstein :thumbsup
Jacobs meh
Sandilands :lol
Tippet marginally
Mumford :pray
Off the top of my head, there a probably a few more that should be in there
Gawn NicNat Goldie & the Mummy the only rucks that have been clearly better this year.
Hickey ,Jacobs and Grundy have had a pretty decent year but the rest have been no better than Hamspud.
He's not going that bad for a second string ruckman.
The rest is just dribble
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
Fact is that Tippett has missed half the season
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
Fact is that Tippett has missed half the season
And in that half a season has still played better than Hampson
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Shaun Hampson.
Typically Richmond.
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Shaun Hampson.
Typically Richmond.
Two more years for the spud... Most troubling news since mia khalifa retired
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
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Go read the VFL reports from the coach, that's what I meant, not stats.
Yeah... The reports didnt say the word 'goal' very often either
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Unfortunately re-signing Hampson was an absolute necessity.
Until we acquire or develop a better one he's far and away the best on our list... Sad day...
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
Naismith would (should) also get a game over Hampson. Absolute beast
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
Fact is that Tippett has missed half the season
And in that half a season has still played better than Hampson
I don't think so
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Ah so you buy into the "he taps the ball good" theory. Explains it
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
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Unfortunately re-signing Hampson was an absolute necessity.
Until we acquire or develop a better one he's far and away the best on our list... Sad day...
and while they continue to employ him, two years at a time, they will not explore any other prospects.... Because, Ruckmen aren't important at the RFC. They have blokes like Ellis and Clogger, controlling the ball once it drops. :chuck
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McEvoy
Tippet
Ceglar
Sinclair
Jacobs
Mumford
Roughead
Goldstein
Hickey
Trengove
Gawn
Grundy
Nicholls
Martin
Kruezer
Smith
Nic Nat
Leunberger
FACT.
Don't bring this "FACT" business here, it's utterly annoying.
But to the point. Notice that list covers every team in the AFL bar Freo who have Sandi who has been injured? I'm also sure they have back ups who are much better players than Hampson. In fact, I'm going to watch Nankervis with interest tonight
Fact is that Tippett has missed half the season
And in that half a season has still played better than Hampson
I don't think so
Clearly you dont believe that.
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
Maybe twenty years ago but that mould was broken long ago
It is exactly your sort of blinkered view point that will leave the RFC wallowing in mediocrity for another thirty years
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
Maybe twenty years ago but that mould was broken long ago
It is exactly your sort of blinkered view point that will leave the RFC wallowing in mediocrity for another thirty years
Hit outs aren't the main aspect of a ruckmans skill set, thats gold right there.
:clapping
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
Maybe twenty years ago but that mould was broken long ago
It is exactly your sort of blinkered view point that will leave the RFC wallowing in mediocrity for another thirty years
Hit outs aren't the main aspect of a ruckmans skill set, thats gold right there.
:clapping
Personally I would want a ruckman that can contribute around the ground rather than tapping it to to the oppositions advantage but anyway keep living on in mediocrity
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Personally id rather Trengrove over hampson in the ruck
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I'd rather a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man.
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
Maybe twenty years ago but that mould was broken long ago
It is exactly your sort of blinkered view point that will leave the RFC wallowing in mediocrity for another thirty years
Hit outs aren't the main aspect of a ruckmans skill set, thats gold right there.
:clapping
Personally I would want a ruckman that can contribute around the ground rather than tapping it to to the oppositions advantage but anyway keep living on in mediocrity
I would want one too, you seem to think that I think Hamspud is a great ruckman, I don't!
He is how ever having a decent year in the ruck, contribution around the ground not so much.
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FMD if it isn't Phil he certainly trolls like him
Trengove the non-ruck is playing ruck better than our ruckman :lol. But it doesn't count because Trengove isn't a ruckman
To be fair he gets the ball far too much
Hence it's not really a far comparison
Good point we should really compare him against ruck man who average less than five possessions
Trengove is a better ruck than the spud :snidegrin
11.7 HO ave. against the spud who averages 3 x that a game
:clapping
And I get called the troll, hahahaha
Is hit outs the only apsect to a ruckmans game?
Its not the only one but it is the main one.
Maybe twenty years ago but that mould was broken long ago
It is exactly your sort of blinkered view point that will leave the RFC wallowing in mediocrity for another thirty years
Hit outs aren't the main aspect of a ruckmans skill set, thats gold right there.
:clapping
He is poo and has been slightly less poo this year
Personally I would want a ruckman that can contribute around the ground rather than tapping it to to the oppositions advantage but anyway keep living on in mediocrity
I would want one too, you seem to think that I think Hamspud is a great ruckman, I don't!
He is how ever having a decent year in the ruck, contribution around the ground not so much.
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Big game today. Lets see if he is worth his his contract ;D No excuses today its such lovely weather outside
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I would want one too, you seem to think that I think Hamspud is a great ruckman, I don't!
He is how ever having a decent year in the ruck, contribution around the ground not so much.
You seem to disassociate rucking and around the game when commenting on a players value? Why is that? You don't think a players role is to do all those things. I'm sure you rate Vickery too because he can kick a goal. Houli can kick the thing pretty well so he must be a good defender
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Ist quarter starts to hampson:-
0 kicks 0 handballs 0 marks. 1 tackle.
8 hit outs, 6 to the opposition, 2 to neutral territory.
Also smith peeled off for an easy mark and goal.
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Hail the master :bow :bow :bow
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Did you see that
GOAL !!
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Am sitting right behind the ball as it sailed thru
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Hampson's half-time summary:
1st qtr:
* Opponent Zac Smith takes a free mark inside Geelong's F50. Geelong's first goal.
* Tap on HBF throw-in straight to Zac Smith.
* Centrebounce tap after our first goal that allowed the Geelong mid to run onto. Resulted in the Cats 2nd goal.
* Ball-up on HFF, free tap straight down to Scott Selwood.
2nd qtr
* Good defensive mark. Kick to Floss was risky (1 vs 2). Floss gets a free.
* Contest at HFF. We regain possession for a goal to Lloyd.
* Crumbs, breaks tackle and snaps a goal around the body :gobdrop :rollin.
* Centrebounce tap to Cotch's feet under pressure who runs over it. Cats gather loose ball.
* Stanley gets the tap against Hampson at centrebounce and following ball-up.
* Dropped contested mark 30m out from our goal.
* Marking attempt on wing spoiled by Geelong opponent.
* Touched ball on the defensive line stops a Geelong goal.
* Overruns ball on the deck in D50.
* Mark on wing of down the line kick.
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Am sitting right behind the ball as it sailed thru
I think half the stadium were sitting behind the kick the way it wobbled everywhere before miraculously finding it's way through the sticks. I guess it doesn't matter how it goes through, only that it does.
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Hampson's half-time summary:
1st qtr:
* Opponent Zac Smith takes a free mark inside Geelong's F50. Geelong's first goal.
* Tap on HBF throw-in straight to Zac Smith.
* Centrebounce tap after our first goal that allowed the Geelong mid to run onto. Resulted in the Cats 2nd goal.
* Ball-up on HFF, free tap straight down to Scott Selwood.
2nd qtr
* Good defensive mark. Kick to Floss was risky (1 vs 2). Floss gets a free.
* Contest at HFF. We regain possession for a goal to Lloyd.
* Crumbs, breaks tackle and snaps a goal around the body :gobdrop :rollin.
* Centrebounce tap to Cotch's feet under pressure who runs over it. Cats gather loose ball.
* Stanley gets the tap against Hampson at centrebounce and following ball-up.
* Dropped contested mark 30m out from our goal.
* Marking attempt on wing spoiled by Geelong opponent.
* Touched ball on the defensive line stops a Geelong goal.
* Overruns ball on the deck in D50.
* Mark on wing of down the line kick.
Don't forget letting Smith peel off and almost take an easy mark in the F50 only for his own teammate to spoil it. Almost cost us 2 goals
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Hampson summary:
3rd qtr:
* Backwards tap at centrebounce misses Dusty and Selwood gets the clearance.
* Defensive throw-in taps inside to Houli. We go coast-to-coast for Lloyd's 3rd goal.
* Attempted handball at centrebounce misses Miles.
* Nil-all draw with Stanley at throw-in on outer HBF.
* Another nil-all draw on the members wing against Stanley.
* Wins tap and collects his own footy and handballs to Houli. Resulting play leads to Jack's goal.
* Helps Stanley tap it to Dusty at centrebounce.
* Contested mark at HBF after kick-in.
* Dropped contested mark inside F50 just before Grigg's goal.
* Clean centrebounce tap to Miles.
* Ordinary kick to Hampson when he was clear on the lead (spoiled by 3rd Geelong man in).
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:lol
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Killing them today Hammer
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:lol
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Can we add Moore to the list of better ruckman?
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Can we add Moore to the list of better ruckman?
Why yes we can
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When you build on a base of quicksand......
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Hampson summary (cont.)
4th qtr
* Good contested mark on D50 to Hampson by the boundary.
* Late tap to Moore at ball-up on wing.
* Beaten by Stanley at centrebounce.
* Nil-all draw on wing with Stanley.
* Rushed point to Geelong.
* Beaten at the centrebounce by Stanley. Geelong clearance.
* Beaten at the centrebounce by Stanley. Geelong clearance.
* Left watching behind contesting marking pack in Geelong's forward line (Geelong mark).
* Nil-all centrebounce against Stanley.
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Give it a rest
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Hampson summary (cont.)
4th qtr
* Left watching behind contesting marking pack in Geelong's forward line (Geelong mark).
For all his good stuff today the above was disgraceful. Negates a lot of the good. Because it was a major contribution to us losing.
Not interested in excuses, it was costly and a terrible, terrible mistake
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When you build on a base of quicksand......
Oh look, ill back our quicksand to the hilt. Its been in the best shape since i started coaching here
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Give it a rest
How dare someone so in deapth football anaysls play by play
#betterthanmaric
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l thought he was fairly solid for a injured Ruckman. l blame our midfielders for not reading him properly. Gee there are several of them around him & often none are where they should be. l give him 7 out of 10 on today's performance. He was all over the ground & took some good marks when he had too. l would however sack the ruck coach cause something is awfully wrong there.
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His best game for some time yet still did three woeful things or every good thing he did... pay out his contract, sack Dan the Man and get a good state league ruck like Tom Goodwin on a base wage....we'd still be ahead...time to call time on Hammer....
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The big spud's gunna be around for another couple years boys so don't go wasting all that praise too quick. :snidegrin
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Is fast becoming a reverse cult hero ;D
loved that 360 point titanic turn and snap floater straight through :bow
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Gold
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Is fast becoming a reverse cult hero ;D
:snidegrin
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Is fast becoming a reverse cult hero ;D
loved that 360 point titanic turn and snap floater straight through :bow
🔨🔨⏱⏱
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l blame our midfielders for not reading him properly. Gee there are several of them around him & often none are where they should be
Is it more likely that a 2nd rate discarded dud we took from another club is tapping it to the wrong spot? Or that a minimum of 3 midfielders at one time are running to the wrong spot, especially when they consist of elite footballers such as Cotchin and Martin. Gee I think I know who's to blame. Funny that Maric didn't have any trouble actually hitting it to our advantage (when he could actually get the hit out)
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I wish the Hampson memories thread was still alive, I split my sides laughing when Hampson tapped it directly to their ruckman who was roving him, honestly FFS does he ruck with his eyes closed
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I wish the Hampson memories thread was still alive, I split my sides laughing when Hampson tapped it directly to their ruckman who was roving him, honestly FFS does he ruck with his eyes closed
What happened to that thread, it was quality :lol
Lol at Hampson needing the bandage job around the head while Selwood and that other bloke (Cowan?) just got on with it.
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Is fast becoming a reverse cult hero ;D
loved that 360 point titanic turn and snap floater straight through :bow
While Dangerfield & Martin battled it out for the Brownlow....Hampsud & Hunt battled it out for the Reverse Brownlow.... :gotigers
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That goal:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-08-14/round-21-hampson-snaps-truly
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10 possessions
All contested
Say no more
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10 possessions
All contested
Say no more
Ball watching in the final qtr, no effort to get to a contest... Cats get an easy mark
Cost us a goal.... a crucial goal, the tsunami was hitting and he stuffed up big time...
Say no more
Oops sorry I forgot it's all Lennon's fault
::)
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#scapgoating
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10 possessions
All contested
Say no more
Ball watching in the final qtr, no effort to get to a contest... Cats get an easy mark
Cost us a goal.... a crucial goal, the tsunami was hitting and he stuffed up big time...
Say no more
Oops sorry I forgot it's all Lennon's fault
::)
Probably needed a solid chop-out and just ran out of puff. Vickery is a poo backup ruckman.
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10 possessions
All contested
Say no more
Ball watching in the final qtr, no effort to get to a contest... Cats get an easy mark
Cost us a goal.... a crucial goal, the tsunami was hitting and he stuffed up big time...
Say no more
Oops sorry I forgot it's all Lennon's fault
::)
Probably needed a solid chop-out and just ran out of puff. Vickery is a poo backup ruckman.
so poo, they play Moore as a backup instead - thats stuffing embarrassing - is Ty embarrassed about that I wonder?
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10 possessions
All contested
Say no more
Ball watching in the final qtr, no effort to get to a contest... Cats get an easy mark
Cost us a goal.... a crucial goal, the tsunami was hitting and he stuffed up big time...
Say no more
Oops sorry I forgot it's all Lennon's fault
::)
Probably needed a solid chop-out and just ran out of puff. Vickery is a poo backup ruckman.
so poo, they play Moore as a backup instead - thats stuffing embarrassing - is Ty embarrassed about that I wonder?
They're all a part of the iceberg, my friend. :snidegrin
Have faith..........believe.
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Well the great Hammer dominated the no name yank hack didn't he
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Oh here we go, the old chestnut, blame Hammer for global warming....no other player played poorly, just Hampson.....FFS.
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Well the great Hammer dominated the no name yank hack didn't he
Jono after Hampson can't get past four possessions.
"Hamspud has been great this year but struggling a bit today"
Yes browny just marvellous. Aa perhaps
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Oh here we go, the old chestnut, blame Hammer for global warming....no other player played poorly, just Hampson.....FFS.
I like that defense of Hammer. You don't have to think hard, don't have to come up with anything he did good during the game (true or otherwise) and you just get to place the blame on other players. Excellent strategy to show how valuable he is to the team ::)
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#BetterThanMaric
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#BetterThanMaric
Certainly is
Even Ivan said that yesterday pre game in the 3121 room
Quote " he deserved his spot and contract extension "
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Yes the word of. Washed up broken has been holds such value
Being vetter than Maric only shows Richmond list managment is rubbish. Not that hamspud is some sort of superhero.
again I am shocked you are breathing
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He's improving
Only ALMOST went the wrong way on the mark but realised what he was doing
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He's improving
Only ALMOST went the wrong way on the mark but realised what he was doing
Yeh, the best tap ruckman is only getting better
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He's improving
Only ALMOST went the wrong way on the mark but realised what he was doing
Yeh, the best tap ruckman is only getting better
Maric said so
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#BetterThanMaric
Certainly is
Even Ivan said that yesterday pre game in the 3121 room
Quote " he deserved his spot and contract extension "
What else was he gonna say....
I heard him bagging the poo out of him, in Croation on Monday.
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#BetterThanMaric
Certainly is
Even Ivan said that yesterday pre game in the 3121 room
Quote " he deserved his spot and contract extension "
What else was he gonna say....
I heard him bagging the poo out of him, in Croation on Monday.
But you're not Croatian....
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lesbanese?
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lesbanese?
:lol
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Gahahaha!
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#BetterThanMaric
Certainly is
Even Ivan said that yesterday pre game in the 3121 room
Quote " he deserved his spot and contract extension "
What else was he gonna say....
I heard him bagging the poo out of him, in Croation on Monday.
He said he was a pichka.
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Maric Is a legend so gave his all for the club ...
He did some marvellous thing overall
Not sure why a young ruckman was not recruited to help him when he was in his prime. Hardwick killed him like the horse in animal farm. Hardly Ivan's fault his body is falling apart.
I would of still played him this season in the one like many other tigers fans. If he was gettin killed out him fwd and get someone young to chop him out like chol/tyrone/Griffiths
Hampson is deadset Shyte and it's disrespectful to compare he two.
Hampson is not IMHO better than now. Regardless of who of the two bad options currently is better - it doesn't mean Hampson is afl standard either way.
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One kick
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He is just the worst :banghead
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oh don't bash him up his got 2 more years to serve us :lol
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Whoa hold on guys according to some he is better than Tipett
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Useless even as a fluffer
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Yeh look, Shaun is in my top 3 players at the club, make no mistake. As long as I'm the coach, Shaun has a job"
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Any see in the third quarter with about 13 minutes to go the boundary throw in just forward of centre wing were he was unmarked with no opponent within 10 metres of him and all all the time in the world and still managed to tap it with both hands straight down into the path of Kennedy who was standing on his own on the boundary line 15 metres in front of him?
Comedy highlight of the year....and only two more seasons of it to go....
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
His one kick was good
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
His one kick was good
Amazing wasn't it?
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
His one kick was good
Amazing wasn't it?
A goal!
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
His one kick was good
Amazing wasn't it?
A goal!
A gift from a blatant free from a 6 game veteran.
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Oh yeah.... a 113 point drubbing but its still all Hampson's fault.....unreal.
Who said it was all his fault?
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Wat with the hyperbole.
About as surprising as Carlton tanking
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Any see in the third quarter with about 13 minutes to go the boundary throw in just forward of centre wing were he was unmarked with no opponent within 10 metres of him and all all the time in the world and still managed to tap it with both hands straight down into the path of Kennedy who was standing on his own on the boundary line 15 metres in front of him?
Comedy highlight of the year....and only two more seasons of it to go....
Happens every week :clapping the worst ruckman i have ever seen.....ever!!
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Any see in the third quarter with about 13 minutes to go the boundary throw in just forward of centre wing were he was unmarked with no opponent within 10 metres of him and all all the time in the world and still managed to tap it with both hands straight down into the path of Kennedy who was standing on his own on the boundary line 15 metres in front of him?
Comedy highlight of the year....and only two more seasons of it to go....
Happens every week :clapping the worst ruckman i have ever seen.....ever!!
It's embarassing. Worse still, moronic simpletons that think he's 'ok'
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West Coast already had Nic Nat & Lycett, yet still went out & traded a third rounder for Giles.....we're happy with this dud & a cooked Maric........
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West Coast already had Nic Nat & Lycett, yet still went out & traded a third rounder for Giles.....we're happy with this dud & a cooked Maric........
The Richmond way. We didn't need another ruckman because we had the best trainer in the AFL :rollin
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Any see in the third quarter with about 13 minutes to go the boundary throw in just forward of centre wing were he was unmarked with no opponent within 10 metres of him and all all the time in the world and still managed to tap it with both hands straight down into the path of Kennedy who was standing on his own on the boundary line 15 metres in front of him?
Comedy highlight of the year....and only two more seasons of it to go....
Was going to use that exact footage to post another video but I think (most) people get it. Then was going to show a tap only moments later by Sydney where the ruckman was able to tap it straight to their midfielder much like Hampson should have in the last video I posted yet people defended him :lol
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Oh what happened to Jackstar's rule of a minimum 2 kicks per quarter? Is he still going to defend Hammer?
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Oh what happened to Jackstar's rule of a minimum 2 kicks per quarter? Is he still going to defend Hammer?
He was terrible yesterday
Didn't you watch
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
He was up against a junior ruck and was thrashed. Yet you support his selection at 28 years of age. Then you have the gall to want to get rid of a junior who's has had a horror year of illness and injury. Do you wonder why people are questioning your judgement?
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Setanta O'hAilpin
Andrew Browne
Angus graham...
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
He was up against a junior ruck and was thrashed. Yet you support his selection at 28 years of age. Then you have the gall to want to get rid of a junior who's has had a horror year of illness and injury. Do you wonder why people are questioning your judgement?
Seriously he has carried out ruck division this year with no pre season
Get with it will you
As for Lennon , watching the twos , he ain't good enough
End of story
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Mate, he's only there because the club is run by stuffn dreaamers and they've never bothered to get a
decent ruckman.
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
He was up against a junior ruck and was thrashed. Yet you support his selection at 28 years of age. Then you have the gall to want to get rid of a junior who's has had a horror year of illness and injury. Do you wonder why people are questioning your judgement?
Seriously he has carried out ruck division this year with no pre season
Get with it will you
As for Lennon , watching the twos , he ain't good enough
End of story
How did Lennon ever get a Rising Star nomination? I would say judges better than you or I rated him when he was fully fit.
I think you should get off the Lennon bashing bandwagon. The guy is still a junior and has had a horror run this year.
Hammer is 28 and won't improve any more. He is just barely ok as a back up ruck, which is what he has had to do as Maric is cooked. He is not the way forward if we are to ever win a premiership. Yet Lennon fully fit and in form could well be. That is the difference. I look at talent that may win us number 11. You look at supporting guys with very little talent that may try hard but will never ever win us a flag. We have gone down that path for 30 years picking up has beens from other clubs. Has it worked? No!!! It's time to back our kids and our 5 top liners. We also need to play a far more direct style of football as the indirect style is killing our juniors. I don't want to just make the 8. I want to make top 4 with a side that will have a chance to win the flag. Talents like Lennon can help us do that. Sure has been poor of late but he also had no preseason and many injuries during the year. Then he has had no continuity in where he plays at all. Poor development by Hardwick.
Hampson has tried hard and is a top bloke no doubt but he isn't the future, If you don't realise that then there is no point discussing this any further.
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:cheers
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He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
He was up against a junior ruck and was thrashed. Yet you support his selection at 28 years of age. Then you have the gall to want to get rid of a junior who's has had a horror year of illness and injury. Do you wonder why people are questioning your judgement?
At least two AFL clubs questioned Jack's judgement when they gave him the arse.... :shh
He was great there for a couple of seconds tho.
Ah no
He was terrible
We had 3 players yesterday
He was up against a junior ruck and was thrashed. Yet you support his selection at 28 years of age. Then you have the gall to want to get rid of a junior who's has had a horror year of illness and injury. Do you wonder why people are questioning your judgement?
Seriously he has carried out ruck division this year with no pre season
Get with it will you
As for Lennon , watching the twos , he ain't good enough
End of story
So no pre-season is a good enough disclaimer for Hamspud but not for Lennon with a shoulder injury on top of that? Interesting...
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one is nice to jj the other isnt, not hard to work out which one.
lennon has talent, he should be good enough.
Hamspon would be rejected by the McCain chip factory and end up as potato starch is some vegan desert.
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one is nice to jj the other isnt, not hard to work out which one.
lennon has talent, he should be good enough.
Hamspon would be rejected by the McCain chip factory and end up as potato starch is some vegan desert.
:lol
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:cheers
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jUDGE EM ALL BY THEIR PROS AND CONS OR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.In many cases you also have decent performance history to judge by.
Ben Lennon certainly does not tick all the boxes and does have some concerning attributes. He also has some real good attributes and had his share of injury problems.
Where is the patiencewith him.
I dont believe we should be talking him up because he just has not done enough strugged thru injury and does has some alarming weaknesses. But surely we can at least afford him the time to prove himself taking into account all these things.
He needs to get a wriggle on but all is not lost.
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
No. You back diseased elements within the club.
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Doofs
:rollin
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
You really back the club Jack after how they have treated us members?
Hampson is not a great footballer as a whole but his year has been servicesble. I look at Hawks McEvoy and he ain't much chop either.
He doesn't contract or select himself, so I blame the club for every player on this list.
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
When you say you back the club what do you mean?
If you mean financially then the answer is yes,
If you mean going to most games then the answer is yes,
If you mean supporting this current regime the answer is NO, I don't like most of the decisions that have been made especially in list management including the acceptance of mediocre players that, at best, should be back up players only. Players you think are great players are prime example like Hamspud, Grigg, Houli, Hunt and B Ellis are all the type of players that will always keep a team from being successful. Every decision these bozos make is the exact opposite to what the elite teams would do ie. Hunt was delisted by Geelong because he's a mediocre player but Richmond play him best 22. :rollin
You?
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
When you say you back the club what do you mean?
If you mean financially then the answer is yes,
If you mean going to most games then the answer is yes,
If you mean supporting this current regime the answer is NO, I don't like most of the decisions that have been made especially in list management including the acceptance of mediocre players that, at best, should be back up players only. Players you think are great players are prime example like Hamspud, Grigg, Houli, Hunt and B Ellis are all the type of players that will always keep a team from being successful. Every decision these bozos make is the exact opposite to what the elite teams would do ie. Hunt was delisted by Geelong because he's a mediocre player but Richmond play him best 22. :rollin
You?
Hasn't Hampson proven to be a reasonable backup.After all Ivan has been injured and when fit struggled big time hence the back up has played and been servicable imo.
Your right that is all he should be though a back up in case of injury and we must look for a couple of better ruckmen. It really is not hard to work out.
Hampson played because there was no other options that is a simple fact of life. Grigg Houli Hunt Bellis Edwards and others your right we had other options and have chose not to play them, they are the very first who should go but instead we extend their contracts.
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I would back Megan in any day of the week
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/aussie-model-megan-gale-says-partner-shaun-hampson-would-kill-her-if-she-had-plastic-surgery/news-story/661cd86e42af246ed145e9538fdd962b (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/aussie-model-megan-gale-says-partner-shaun-hampson-would-kill-her-if-she-had-plastic-surgery/news-story/661cd86e42af246ed145e9538fdd962b)
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He'd probably start off facing the wrong way, and sure he may get a fair few hits in but done of them will be effective
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Back to the Hampson is a dud topic - Hampson really is a dud.
Not according to Jackstar & WAT
.....and the Richmond FC :rollin
I back the club
You ?
When you say you back the club what do you mean?
If you mean financially then the answer is yes,
If you mean going to most games then the answer is yes,
If you mean supporting this current regime the answer is NO, I don't like most of the decisions that have been made especially in list management including the acceptance of mediocre players that, at best, should be back up players only. Players you think are great players are prime example like Hamspud, Grigg, Houli, Hunt and B Ellis are all the type of players that will always keep a team from being successful. Every decision these bozos make is the exact opposite to what the elite teams would do ie. Hunt was delisted by Geelong because he's a mediocre player but Richmond play him best 22. :rollin
You?
Hasn't Hampson proven to be a reasonable backup.After all Ivan has been injured and when fit struggled big time hence the back up has played and been servicable imo.
Your right that is all he should be though a back up in case of injury and we must look for a couple of better ruckmen. It really is not hard to work out.
Hampson played because there was no other options that is a simple fact of life. Grigg Houli Hunt Bellis Edwards and others your right we had other options and have chose not to play them, they are the very first who should go but instead we extend their contracts.
You are wrong there were other options available.
Vickery, Griffiths, Chol, Elton, Soldo just about any other tall on our list would have done as good as Hampson and probably better.
I am sick of hearing this no other options bull poo by stuffing mediocrity accepting posters.
FFS Port even played Trengrove in the ruck instead of Lobbe even when he wasnt injured.
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He'd probably start off facing the wrong way, and sure he may get a fair few hits in but done of them will be effective
She could throw anything at his head and he would miss it.
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A garden gnome is a better option than hampspud
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Andrejs Everitt has just been delisted. The pick 32 that we swapped for Hampson, which was further ontraded for pick 39 and Everitt from the Swans, which means that (as Cameron Giles was delisted last year) we can officially celebrate winning that trade.
Great job tiges! :gotigers
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Yeah nah still losing.....
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Winning.
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Yeah nah still losing.....
Like the Grigg trade we still have to suffer watching him play
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the blues supporters i know had me believe for 2 years it was docherty they got for the hampson pick?
is this true? I think it must be as they arent returning my whatsapp messages :lol :lol
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Andrejs Everitt has just been delisted. The pick 32 that we swapped for Hampson, which was further ontraded for pick 39 and Everitt from the Swans, which means that (as Cameron Giles was delisted last year) we can officially celebrate winning that trade.
Great job tiges! :gotigers
Because it's good to win the battle of two turds
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the blues supporters i know had me believe for 2 years it was docherty they got for the hampson pick?
is this true? I think it must be as they arent returning my whatsapp messages :lol :lol
Classic moronic carlscum supporters, in the wrong as per usual.
We traded pick 32 for Hampson.
Carlton traded pick 32 for 39 and Everitt.
They drafted Cameron Giles who never managed a senior game and was delisted after two season (I think he did a few bad injuries).
Sam Docherty was traded for pick 33 from Brisbane. The very next pick!
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I would back Megan in any day of the week
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/aussie-model-megan-gale-says-partner-shaun-hampson-would-kill-her-if-she-had-plastic-surgery/news-story/661cd86e42af246ed145e9538fdd962b (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/aussie-model-megan-gale-says-partner-shaun-hampson-would-kill-her-if-she-had-plastic-surgery/news-story/661cd86e42af246ed145e9538fdd962b)
And yet it is so obvious that she has had it LOL, Her eyes have been pulled back so tight they now go up at the corners. Have a look at when she was younger.
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Never been a fan .. bring back Pia
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NOT MY WORDS, but just for the experts...
"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"
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NOT MY WORDS, but just for the experts...
"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"
Does that mean he's any good?
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It means the others are women, clearly.
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NOT MY WORDS, but just for the experts...
"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"
Sounds like it's coming from you
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-12/the-depth-chart-your-clubs-strengths-and-weaknesses-as-the-draft-nears
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=25544.0
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Has to be number one at something.
Used to be training, but apparently that's now Drummond.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-12/the-depth-chart-your-clubs-strengths-and-weaknesses-as-the-draft-nears
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=25544.0
"Staff writers" LMFAO that's who's opinion you go out of your way to quote to back up a point? :lol
I've stuffing seen it all. I really have
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-12/the-depth-chart-your-clubs-strengths-and-weaknesses-as-the-draft-nears
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=25544.0
"Staff writers" LMFAO that's who's opinion you go out of your way to quote to back up a point? :lol
I've stuffing seen it all. I really have
Yeah I am sure you have "seen it all", most experts have. Maybe Healy, Brereton, Dunstal and the like know less than you, I mean, they said all year that he was having a very good year. But hey, why listen to them over someone with infinitive wisdom such as yourself.
Oh, by the way, I didn't hear much of a "very good year", "good year" or anything of the like in same sentence where Batchelor was mentioned....but hey, you probably knew that...champ.
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Megan on the Today Show Channel 9 at 8.20am today 😉
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Megan on the Today Show Channel 9 at 8.20am today 😉
Give me Pia over her any day
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Megan on the Today Show Channel 9 at 8.20am today 😉
Give me Pia over her any day
:yep
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Megan on the Today Show Channel 9 at 8.20am today 😉
Give me Pia over her any day
Id let them swap positions after a while.......
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Megan on the Today Show Channel 9 at 8.20am today 😉
Give me Pia over her any day
Id let them swap positions after a while.......
Megan would be better face down however Pia I couldn't care less
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Megan Gale gushes over date night with her AFL star beau Shaun Hampson
Daily Mail UK/Australia
31 December 2016
Australia's Next Top Model host Megan Gale has gushed over her date night with her AFL star beau Shaun Hampson.
The popular supermodel, 41, took to Instagram on Friday to share a photo of herself perched on the end of a bed in a hotel room.
'Such a great night out with my baby daddy last night,' she captioned the snap, adding the hashtag 'overnight date.'
'Such a great night out with my baby daddy': Megan Gale has gushed over her date night with her AFL star beau Shaun Hampson, sharing a snap of herself perched on the end of a bed in a hotel room
She's been in a relationship with the Richmond Tigers ruckman, 28, for over five years, and the pair share a two-year-old son, River.
The trio are often seen posing together in heartwarming family snaps on Megan's Instagram.
One recent photograph sees Megan sitting with her husband and son on the couch as they enjoy their weekend in a snap captioned: 'We be cuddlin'.'
Speaking to TV Week in September, Megan spoke of her relationship with the football star and revealed he wouldn't be pleased if she went under the knife.
'I think he would kill me if I did that,' she said. 'Shaun is very anti-cosmetic surgery, which is one of the things I love about him.'
The 41-year-old has admitted she is still working out the best way to juggle her modelling and acting career and motherhood.
'I'm still trying to figure out that balance between work and motherhood, like most working parents do,' she told The Daily Telegraph earlier this year.
She also revealed her young son is showing potential to follow in her AFL star hubby's footsteps.
'He's so tall already. It's a given because his dad is massive and I'm hardly short. But he's just flourishing, and they're so funny at this age.'
Megan and the Richmond footballer have been together since January 2011 but are yet to get engaged.
She had to deny her man had popped the question last year when she showed up at the Logies with a glittering ring on her left hand, but said it was just the only finger it would fit on.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4076246/Australia-s-Model-s-Megan-Gale-41-gushes-date-night-AFL-star-boyfriend-Shaun-Hampson-28.html#ixzz4UPd1Q0zk
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Father-spn?
Cry me a river! ;D
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"Australia's Next Top Model host Megan Gale has gushed over her date night with her AFL star beau Shaun Hampson."
The problem with the English language is that it is soooo open to interpretation :-[
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Father-spn?
Cry me a river! ;D
Hopefully Hampson has played 100 for Carlton already....
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River Gale-Hamspud, F/S selection 2031 draft........ :clapping
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"AFL star"
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"AFL star"
We'll according to some on here he is
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When I posted she was a gusher, it was deleted.
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Heard he's collaborating with Megan on a new range of bras for pre-teen girls....initial tests have indicated that they train well....
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Heard he's collaborating with Megan on a new range of bras for pre-teen girls....initial tests have indicated that they train well....
Yes. Apparently some of our rookies were used when designing the Prototype
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Supermodel Megan Gale is set to tie the knot with Richmond ruckman Shaun Hampson.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/supermodel-megan-gale-announces-engagement-to-richmond-ruckman-shaun-hampson/news-story/e13f42a5876798be86f3b020b4859363
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Wonder if he proposed with his hands on his hips
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Wonder if he proposed with his hands on his hips
Maybe it's worse than that. He proposed whilst lying down....
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Wonder if he proposed with his hands on his hips
while gushing
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Wonder if he proposed with his hands on his hips
while gushing
In a training bra
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I wonder if Jackstar will be invited to the wedding?
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He'll be walking behind Megan as she comes down the aisle carrying the back of her dress and then he'll re-register here again just to boast about how he held up her train well....
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Apparently will be playing in a few weeks
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Apparently will be playing in a few weeks
cards?, I heard he is D & D'ed
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Apparently will be playing in a few weeks
cards?, I heard he is D & D'ed
Hammer said himself @ 3121 function before the GWS game that he had had a procedure that seemed to work & was hoping to be back in 2-3 weeks
The procedure was an epidural into the affected part of the spine
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Finals smokey :clapping
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Thanks but no thanks
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Hammer, Concs & The Big Griff all back for the EF! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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its all going to plan tigers. :birthday
only question is who is going to get dropped?
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Apparently will be playing in a few weeks
cards?, I heard he is D & D'ed
Hammer said himself @ 3121 function before the GWS game that he had had a procedure that seemed to work & was hoping to be back in 2-3 weeks
The procedure was an epidural into the affected part of the spine
Maybe by opening his hips he may not put his hands on them so often
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its all going to plan tigers. :birthday
only question is who is going to get dropped?
Rioli, Butler and Castagna.... master stroke :shh
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The question is, what is he stroking if he does that?
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We need 2 ruckman, ideally 1 as a chop out for the Nank. The options are Soldo, Griff and Spud.
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We need 2 ruckman, ideally 1 as a chop out for the Nank. The options are Soldo, Griff and Spud.
Stick with Soldo this year as necessary.
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He'll be like a new recruit :shh
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We need 2 ruckman, ideally 1 as a chop out for the Nank. The options are Soldo, Griff and Spud.
Upgrade Moore or Chol.
fixed.
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The Tigers are hopeful ruckman Shaun Hampson can still play a part in 2018 despite ongoing troubles with his back.
Hampson was restricted to six VFL games in 2017 because of a chronic disc problem, which has continued into this year.
He played in the Tigers' opening round VFL win over Port Melbourne in early April but hasn't managed another game since.
He trained with the rehab group last week after being recently backed off load-wise, and still hopes to be part of the Tigers' campaign at some stage this season despite the tricky nature of his injury.
"I'm not sure when we're expecting him to play. It's a pretty serious kind of problem," Balme said.
"He's still around the place, still part of it, and we're hoping he can play."
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-21/jack-expected-to-face-saints-despite-bump-worry)
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:facepalm
Reported for trolling
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Smart fellow really.
Able to get paid the $$$$$ for not doing much at all. Just say he has an acute pain in his back (that they can’t determine) and get paid the bigs bucks to get all the physio and massages he likes any time he likes and he doesn’t have to run or even try to mark or kick a footy.
:rollin
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#Hamspud2Conca #VFLrunnersupback2back :clapping
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Hampson. Is he done and dusted or will we see him again this year? Doe anyone know?
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Hampson. Is he done and dusted
Hope so.
will we see him again this year?
Hope not.
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Is it Hanmertime soon?
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How’s he going at training?
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How’s he going at training?
The training with Megan has aggravated his back problems.... :shh
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How’s he going at training?
The training with Megan has aggravated his back problems.... :shh
Scrubbing floors because she’s the bread winner?
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How’s he going at training?
The training with Megan has aggravated his back problems.... :shh
Scrubbing floors because she’s the bread winner?
Unfortunately he is still getting paid by us so no... :shh
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They don't even bother giving a time line in the injury update.
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Who?
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I am concerned about Nank going into another finals series...
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I am concerned about Nank going into another finals series...
I'd rather have Higgins as first ruck...Seriously!
Hampson is done, and why he just doesn't retire beggars belief
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I am concerned about Nank going into another finals series...
I'd rather have Higgins as first ruck...Seriously!
Hampson is done, and why he just doesn't retire beggars belief
Free use of the facilities
Free physio.
Free massages.
Free medical advice.
Free gym.
Free friends.
Free yoga.
Free psychologist.
Free sports science.
Etc. etc. etc.
All this whilst still getting paid and not having to do any work to earn those dollars.
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I am concerned about Nank going into another finals series...
I'd rather have Higgins as first ruck...Seriously!
Hampson is done, and why he just doesn't retire beggars belief
Free use of the facilities
Free physio.
Free massages.
Free medical advice.
Free gym.
Free friends.
All this whilst still getting paid and not having to do any work to earn that dollars.
And to think some posters on here actually backed him in
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I am concerned about Nank going into another finals series...
People need to stop panicking that we're going to "run Nank into the ground".... total overraction based on what happened to Maric ...Nankervis is still only 23, Maric was already 26 when he got here.... :shh
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I am not just concerned Nank burning out. His ruck work has been very average lately. The stats don't lie buddy take your head out of the sand. We can't hide away from it forever. Nank is a forward ruck playing first ruck. Against good ruckmen we get smashed in the centre.
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I am not just concerned Nank burning out. His ruck work has been very average lately. The stats don't lie buddy take your head out of the sand. We can't hide away from it forever. Nank is a forward ruck playing first ruck. Against good ruckmen we get smashed in the centre.
His ruckwork has always been average - its the rest of his game that benefits us. Hitouts are over rated, and for the record, we're one of the best centre clearance sides in the comp
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I am not just concerned Nank burning out. His ruck work has been very average lately. The stats don't lie buddy take your head out of the sand. We can't hide away from it forever. Nank is a forward ruck playing first ruck. Against good ruckmen we get smashed in the centre.
His ruckwork has always been average - its the rest of his game that benefits us. Hitouts are over rated - and for the record - we're one of the best centre clearance sides in the comp
Against the best hit out ruckman in the league max Gawn we got smashed in hit outs something like 60-20 and won the clearances......
No more overrated stat in footy than hit outs. As for our clearance work, Prestia will help significantly with that.
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That's why Soldo should be getting some games cause against the teams with 2 rucks Nank needs help and we struggle.Soldo is pretty good tap ruckman and has a good leap.Nank plays forward and Soldo rucks worked alright last season.
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Hit outs are defeinitely overrated. But against teams with strong ruckmen i.e. West Coast with using Natanui and Lycett to overrun Nank, Port with Ryder, just trying to shark everything makes it an uphill battle. Particularly against Port we only won 5 centre clearances. (Trent with 3, Miles with 1, Grigg with 1)
It didn't help we didn't have Dusty and also I do agree that Prestia will add a lot to that midfield mix as well but saying that it would be negligent to not try and get game time and prep another ruckman ASAP if *knock wood* Nank gets injured/suspended
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I don't think hit outs are as overrated as people say.
I certainly agree that they are not the be all and end all, but imagine if we had a Nic Nat, Gawn, Ryder style ruckman in our team at the moment palming it down to Dusty, Cotch, Prestia and co.
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When your hit outs usually go straight down the throats of the opposition then I would suggest that they are extremely overrated..... :shh
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
Also to the opposition's advantage but they don't publish those..... :shh
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
Also to the opposition's advantage but they don't publish those..... :shh
Brought a cafe in Kensington. More interested in latte art than the art of rucking these days.
Only tap work he's doing theses days is on the powdered chocolate canister when he's finishing decorating a cappuccino
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
Last year Sandi had a record number of hitouts to advantage think it was 21 - we won by 104points - over rated..
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
Last year Sandi had a record number of hitouts to advantage think it was 21 - we won by 104points - over rated..
:lol
And Robert Walls thought Sandilands, Fyfe and Neade were the three best players on the ground because we were smashed in clearances 22 to 44 when we played Freo at the G........
........we won by 77 points. :rollin
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Yeah ‘hitouts to advantage’ is what you need to look at.
Also to the opposition's advantage but they don't publish those..... :shh
Brought a cafe in Kensington. More interested in latte art than the art of rucking these days.
Only tap work he's doing theses days is on the powdered chocolate canister when he's finishing decorating a cappuccino
It’s actually in Ascot Vale
It’s called Ascot Food Store
Best cafe in the area
You should try it
Recommend the Confit Lobster Burger $22.50
It’s 👌
Coffee is great there as well
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Interesting. You come across as a meat and three veggies type of guy.
Next time I've got cravings for confit lobster, I'll head across town
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Retired
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Retired
Hampson calls time on AFL career
richmondfc.com.au
26 June 2018
Richmond ruckman Shaun Hampson has announced his retirement from AFL football, effective immediately.
The 30-year-old has been managing a chronic back condition for the past two seasons, and announced his retirement to the playing group earlier today.
Hampson crossed over to the Tigers from Carlton at the end of 2013, playing 35 games in the yellow and black, and 63 games for the Blues.
Originally from Mt Gravatt, Queensland, Hampson was selected at pick No. 17 overall in the 2006 National Draft.
Richmond’s General Manager – Football, Neil Balme, thanked Hampson for his commitment to the Tigers.
“Shaun worked bravely and tirelessly to give himself the best chance to overcome this painful injury,” Balme said.
“There is ultimately a point where Shaun must think of his long-term health, rather than just the immediate challenge of playing football. It was clear to Shaun and our medical staff that he had reached that point.
“Shaun certainly loves his family and it was a very difficult decision for him to make.
“He is a very popular member of our squad and we thank him for his dedication to our football club.
“We wish Shaun, Megan and their children River and Rosie all the best for the future.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-26/hampson-calls-time-on-afl-career
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Very sad day
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Interesting. You come across as a meat and three veggies type of guy.
Next time I've got cravings for confit lobster, I'll head across town
Cracking place.
Has the donuts where you inject the jam
👌👌
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:dancing :clapping :dancing
Very great day
e.f.a
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If they upload a video of Hampson telling the group he is retiring ill cut up my membership!!
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Should have pulled the pin the end of last season
Was cooked then
Anyways....
Wish him well for the future
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This moneyball trade was a flop ....let's face it .
Who was our main ruckman in 2016
Who was our main ruckman in 2014 when we slipped to 3-10 .
At least he's very handsome.
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Wish him well for the future
Yes I'm sure life's going to be a real struggle for him from now on....
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Look I called it ages ago, this injury thing was a face saver for the RFC until he could be cut
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With Griffo and Hammer gone, should have enough cash for Lynch now. :thumbsup
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Got my answer then...
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Interesting. You come across as a meat and three veggies type of guy.
Next time I've got cravings for confit lobster, I'll head across town
Cracking place.
Has the donuts where you inject the jam
👌👌
I've got a place where you toast your own bread and make your own coffee. It's called my kitchen.
What will these hipster Cafes think of next??
I'll tell you one thing. Hampson sucked the jam out of my donut
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With Griffo and Hammer gone, should have enough cash for Lynch now. :thumbsup
You would think it would have to be $550-600 in total wouldn't you just there alone?
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Interesting. You come across as a meat and three veggies type of guy.
Next time I've got cravings for confit lobster, I'll head across town
Cracking place.
Has the donuts where you inject the jam
👌👌
I've got a place where you toast your own bread and make your own coffee. It's called my kitchen.
Open it to the public and charge 22 bucks for it. :shh
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And it’s the best Burger in Melbourne
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I do a mean deconstructed vegemite toast. You get to spread the butter and vegemite yourself at the end too.
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I do a mean deconstructed vegemite toast. You get to spread the butter and vegemite yourself at the end too.
I'm starting to think Jackstar is either Shaun Hampson, Meagan, or his publicity agent
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Poor Hammer probably came on here for a read and saw what WP said. :(
Poor Jackstar too. What mediocre reserves player is he going to be mates with now :(
Good luck though Hammer. Not a good player but did play at the RFC for a few years, a lot of us wish we could have done the same
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Yes but most of us would have wished to have played good games for the RFC, not just merely run out and spud it up....hell we could all just jump the fence during a match and do that.... :shh
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
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Yeah almost as bad as bushfires, floods, cyclones and earthquakes and stuff.... :shh
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
So true , easy to pot players
Hammer gave his best
Had a solid 2016 against the odds
Terrific clubman who will be missed
Not one player speaks ill of Hammer
All the best
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a busted arse but he was still a Richmond player.
Has still busted his back for our club more than anyone here has.
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Interesting will be where the statue gets located 🤔🔨⏰.
Tipping next to Jack Dyer 👍
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Interesting will be where the statue gets located 🤔🔨⏰.
Tipping next to Jack Dyer 👍
Will Megan get a statue?
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Interesting will be where the statue gets located 🤔🔨⏰
Better not put it near Shaun.
We'd never tell them apart.
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Fancy Jackstar telling us it is easy to pot players.
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Interesting will be where the statue gets located 🤔🔨⏰.
Tipping next to Jack Dyer 👍
Will Megan get a statue?
She should 🤔😉
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Fancy Jackstar telling us it is easy to pot players.
:shh
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
No he didn’t, let’s not kid ourselves. He was a free loader and stole from our club by staying when he clearly wasn’t up to it. I mean mostly everyone (with a brain) knew that this hack struggled to execute the basic skills of the game. He should of retired after his first year.
The bloke that recruited him to the club should be reminded every day how stupid he was to think that one of the worst players ever to play the game could come to our club and miraculously all of a sudden be able to kick, mark and handball. Mind boggling decision! :banghead
Today is one of the greatest days in the history of the club that this hack from the Scum Cheats (who are still laughing that we wanted to trade for him when everyone & his dog knew he was going to be delisted) is finally gone and goes onto the long list of useless players that were blessed to be given the privilege to wear our great jumper.
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
No he didn’t, let’s not kid ourselves. He was a free loader and stole from our club by staying when he clearly wasn’t up to it. I mean mostly everyone (with a brain) knew that this hack struggled to execute the basic skills of the game. He should of retired after his first year.
The bloke that recruited him to the club should be reminded every day how stupid he was to think that one of the worst players ever to play the game could come to our club and miraculously all of a sudden be able to kick, mark and handball. Mind boggling decision! :banghead
Today is one of the greatest days in the history of the club that this hack from the Scum Cheats (who are still laughing that we wanted to trade for him when everyone & his dog knew he was going to be delisted) is finally gone and goes onto the long list of useless players that were blessed to be given the privilege to wear our great jumper.
:bow :clapping exactly this
I don't understand the whole "they did more for the (insert entity) than you so no criticism is allowed. Members pay for his salary and he is not only crap but a complete liability. He would hardly get more than 10 disposals a game and even had some one disposal games. He is the trust definition of a list clogger. Any decent person would not take a $300K job while producing nothing.
All the other favourite whipping boys like Ellis, Grigg, Houlihan have some redeeming values. Ellis has a tank, Houlihan breaks lines and has a deep penetrating kick. Hell even Grigg is a better ruckman and is better around the ground. Hampson offers nothing.
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Good luck to him and his family.Don't blame him for being a list clogger blame our old football department for the decision simple as that.If you were in his position you do the same.
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LOL Grigg a better ruckman.
You are kidding yourself.
Hampson was an excellent ruckman.
His problem was he offered very little around the ground.
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I am done with this board of primates.
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I am done with this board of primates.
:wave
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
No he didn’t, let’s not kid ourselves. He was a free loader and stole from our club by staying when he clearly wasn’t up to it. I mean mostly everyone (with a brain) knew that this hack struggled to execute the basic skills of the game. He should of retired after his first year.
The bloke that recruited him to the club should be reminded every day how stupid he was to think that one of the worst players ever to play the game could come to our club and miraculously all of a sudden be able to kick, mark and handball. Mind boggling decision! :banghead
Today is one of the greatest days in the history of the club that this hack from the Scum Cheats (who are still laughing that we wanted to trade for him when everyone & his dog knew he was going to be delisted) is finally gone and goes onto the long list of useless players that were blessed to be given the privilege to wear our great jumper.
:bow :clapping exactly this
I don't understand the whole "they did more for the (insert entity) than you so no criticism is allowed. Members pay for his salary and he is not only crap but a complete liability. He would hardly get more than 10 disposals a game and even had some one disposal games. He is the trust definition of a list clogger. Any decent person would not take a $300K job while producing nothing.
All the other favourite whipping boys like Ellis, Grigg, Houlihan have some redeeming values. Ellis has a tank, Houlihan breaks lines and has a deep penetrating kick. Hell even Grigg is a better ruckman and is better around the ground. Hampson offers nothing.
Would take a 300k job to do nothing faster then you can say Shaun Hampson.
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Depends who's paying the salary. I am happy to disclose I get <80K a year and I have worked a biomedical researcher in stroke research for the past 10 years. If someone offered me a $300k a year salary tomorrow would I take it? Yes. Would I do nothing and sit on my arse while accumulating said money? No
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You people are disgusting.
He wasn't my favourite player and the trade was a bust but he was still a Richmond player and deserves our respect.
Has still busted his arse for our club more than anyone here has.
So true , easy to pot players
Hammer gave his best
Had a solid 2016 against the odds
Terrific clubman who will be missed
Not one player speaks ill of Hammer
All the best
Hello?
I am not sure how voicing an opinion in that he should have retired at the end of last season when his injury was so debilitating is potting him
Jack, you better than anyone would know how bad the injury was. He had basically no chance of making it back, to suggest otherwise is foolish. Apart from being contracted, seriously what was the point? Sorry but I don't get it
I've wished him all the best for the future (as I do with all players when they retire) and I meant it.
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Will miss the knee hunches
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His recruitment was a massive error as far as footy is concerned. Won plenty of tap outs but unfortunately they mostly went to the opposition. Happy he finally made the right decision as he was cooked 2 years ago.
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Pulled off some marvelous falcons
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Opposition rovers currently holding a candlelight vigil outside Punt Road..... :shh
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=225854004291789&id=155743507969506
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I wish him all the best for the future. The back injury was horrendous. I hope he recovers from it fully in time. It was the right decision to retire. As to whether he should have retired earlier I am leaving it to others to comment on that. I don't think his recruitment to the club was a wise decision-it was not the type of ruckman we needed at the time. I don't think he ever reached the expectations of the club.
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I used to work with a Turkish bloke that allegedly hurt his back at work. No one saw it but he said he hurt it whilst lifting something.
Beauty about back injuries is that even though no expert can see why there is pain no one will question it. So this bloke could pretty much stay home, go to specialists, get physio and maybe rock up once a month and walk around llike he had a carrot stuck up his arse.
All this free time he was able to build a new deck and redo his landscaping.
But in he’d come once a month in horrendous pain.
Last I heard he’s building his third house now with the workcover payout. :rollin
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I used to work with a Turkish bloke that allegedly hurt his back at work. No one saw it but he said he hurt it whilst lifting something.
Beauty about back injuries is that even though no expert can see why there is pain no one will question it. So this bloke could pretty much stay home, go to specialists, get physio and maybe rock up once a month and walk around llike he had a carrot stuck up his arse.
All this free time he was able to build a new deck and redo his landscaping.
But in he’d come once a month in horrendous pain.
Last I heard he’s building his third house now with the workcover payout. :rollin
I know the surgeon who he sees. He has real changes in his spine so it's not made up. The club is aware of this and so are not being taken for a ride.
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I used to work with a Turkish bloke that allegedly hurt his back at work. No one saw it but he said he hurt it whilst lifting something.
Beauty about back injuries is that even though no expert can see why there is pain no one will question it. So this bloke could pretty much stay home, go to specialists, get physio and maybe rock up once a month and walk around llike he had a carrot stuck up his arse.
All this free time he was able to build a new deck and redo his landscaping.
But in he’d come once a month in horrendous pain.
Last I heard he’s building his third house now with the workcover payout. :rollin
Funny you’re one of the first to call out some of players for being soft or gutless or squibs, but that’s a pretty stuffing gutless thing to accuse someone of.
Right off.
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I know the surgeon who he sees. He has real changes in his spine so it's not made up. The club is aware of this and so are not being taken for a ride.
Exactly Doc
So why didn't he retire end of last season when the writing was on the wall?
This is about his ability this was a quality of life issue
So for the life of me I simply don't get why he tried to come back
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I used to work with a Turkish bloke that allegedly hurt his back at work. No one saw it but he said he hurt it whilst lifting something.
Beauty about back injuries is that even though no expert can see why there is pain no one will question it. So this bloke could pretty much stay home, go to specialists, get physio and maybe rock up once a month and walk around llike he had a carrot stuck up his arse.
All this free time he was able to build a new deck and redo his landscaping.
But in he’d come once a month in horrendous pain.
Last I heard he’s building his third house now with the workcover payout. :rollin
Surprised Workcover haven't sent investigators to catch him doing all that work on camera...especially if everyone apparently knew about it.... :shh
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I know the surgeon who he sees. He has real changes in his spine so it's not made up. The club is aware of this and so are not being taken for a ride.
Exactly Doc
So why didn't he retire end of last season when the writing was on the wall?
This is about his ability this was a quality of life issue
So for the life of me I simply don't get why he tried to come back
When you are living your dream its not that easy to give it up. So many examples of athletes across many different sports who have gone on longer than they should have because they are clinging onto any little hope of playing again.
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I used to work with a Turkish bloke that allegedly hurt his back at work. No one saw it but he said he hurt it whilst lifting something.
Beauty about back injuries is that even though no expert can see why there is pain no one will question it. So this bloke could pretty much stay home, go to specialists, get physio and maybe rock up once a month and walk around llike he had a carrot stuck up his arse.
All this free time he was able to build a new deck and redo his landscaping.
But in he’d come once a month in horrendous pain.
Last I heard he’s building his third house now with the workcover payout. :rollin
I know the surgeon who he sees. He has real changes in his spine so it's not made up. The club is aware of this and so are not being taken for a ride.
Broke his back playing for us or was his back already stuffed before he came? Interesting to know if he had issues before being traded by the Scum Cheats that wouldnt be surprising considering what they (and every man & his dog knew except for us) about the issues Yarran had before was traded to us.
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People think he faked it....
:rollin
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People think he faked it....
:rollin
Megan says no..... :shh
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Letter to my younger self — Shaun Hampson
AFLPA
By Shaun Hampson
15 March 2019
Letter to my younger self is back this year, as we honour the 2018 draft class. Former Blue and Tiger Shaun Hampson shares some words of wisdom to his younger self about what it means to be resilient and what to value from his career.
Shaun,
These next 12 years will completely shape your life and the person you will become.
It’s going to challenge you in more ways than you could imagine. You’ve got so much to learn about yourself.
When you start, you will think you know what it means to be resilient, to challenge yourself and to be grateful but trust me, you don’t. You’ll learn what all these things truly mean along the way but unfortunately, much of your early career will be hampered by a lack of being able to properly comprehend these things.
You’ll whinge when you lose games, you’ll get carried away when you win them. You’ll get caught up on the small stuff and won’t look towards the big picture.
You’ll think, “poor me” when you get injured (which will happen a fair bit) and overdo it when you’re not.
You’ll have coaches that like you, ones that don’t and some that just couldn’t care less.
You’ll think you’re a failure when you’re playing VFL instead of AFL and won’t enjoy it for what it is. At times you won’t be grateful to be doing what you’re doing.
Fortunately though, you do get your act together and you’ll also realise the greatest thing about being a footballer… The relationships.
With a lot of help from some key people you will learn to worry about only what you can control. Through trying times, hard work and an improved perspective you will obtain a better understanding of what it means to be resilient.
You’ll learn to be grateful for being able to play football at all, regardless of the level and enjoy every game and every minute you spend with your mates.
You won’t play 100 games, you won’t win a premiership, a best and fairest or a Brownlow but it’s OK because when you do leave the game, they’re not the things you’ll think about or miss.
It’s the deep and unique relationships that football allows you to create that you’ll miss. The camaraderie, care and the pointless locker room chat.
Relish it, enjoy it and don’t get so caught up in all the other poo.
Shaun
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/letter-to-my-younger-self-shaun-hampson/
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Concise version:
Over the next 12 years not only will you be drawing a six figure salary for pretty much doing stuff all while hanging out with a bunch of mates, you'll also be shagging a supermodel.
So just sit back and relax you lucky bastard.
Shaun
:shh
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Concise version:
Over the next 12 years not only will you be drawing a six figure salary for pretty much doing stuff all while hanging out with a bunch of mates, you'll also be shagging a supermodel.
So just sit back and relax you lucky bastard.
Shaun
:shh
:lol :lol :lol
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Richmond is pleased to announce that former player Shaun Hampson will return to the Club as AFLW midfield coach for the upcoming season.
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1294368/hampson-returns-to-richmond
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It's good to have you back, Hammer 🔨
Shaun Hampson speaks about returning to Tigerland as our @RichmondWomens midfield coach.
Watch: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1644166562876919809
FRIDAY KNOCK OFFS: Shaun Hampson on Survivor, family pranks and his footy return
Shaun Hampson joins Dylan Buckley to discuss Richmond, coaching AFLW, TV stardom, and scaring Megan Gale
Watch: https://www.afl.com.au/video/897228/friday-knock-offs-shaun-hampson-on-survivor-family-pranks-and-his-footy-return
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Ah the spud of spuds almost. Geez Carlton shafted us when they traded him to us.
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Ah the spud of spuds almost. Geez Carlton shafted us when they traded him to us.
What a delight you are. Literally zero value saying that -- which kid is he currently keeping out of our 22 eh?
Don't worry, though, I'll get onto Hampson and tell him he's a piece of human sh*t for you.
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Good bloke Hammer. I'm sure he'll do alright with the women
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Ripper bloke, average player, not his fault RFC overpaid for him and let Carlton do a rectal exam on our club.
Yarran too.
Gee we were dumb back then.
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Ripper bloke, average player, not his fault RFC overpaid for him and let Carlton do a rectal exam on our club.
Yarran too.
Gee we were dumb back then.
We got our payback with Grigg for Collins though.
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Ah the spud of spuds almost. Geez Carlton shafted us when they traded him to us.
:lol
God you are a weird joyless unit
why do you spend so much time ranting about a club you clearly loathe?…
Get out there and live your life man!
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Ripper bloke, average player, not his fault RFC overpaid for him and let Carlton do a rectal exam on our club.
Yarran too.
Gee we were dumb back then.
:lol :rollin
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Ripper bloke, average player, not his fault RFC overpaid for him and let Carlton do a rectal exam on our club.
Yarran too.
Gee we were dumb back then.
We got our payback with Grigg for Collins though.
Still not enough.
I want Curnow for a teaspoon of chicken crap