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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigger on October 04, 2013, 01:19:22 PM
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Just heard on trade radio he is leaving the tigers and wants to go to Brisbane with Leppa...
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Luke McGuane signals intention to go to Lions
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
October 4, 2013 12:52 PM
FREE agent Luke McGuane has decided to leave Richmond in the hope of joining former Tigers assistant Justin Leppitsch at the Brisbane Lions.
McGuane, 26, played 105 games in nine seasons with the Tigers, but told AFL.com.au on Friday he felt he needed a fresh start to make the most out of the four or five years he believes he has left in the game.
The Queenslander said he was prepared to go anywhere to extend his AFL career, but his preference was to return home and play under newly appointed Lions coach Leppitsch at the Gabba.
"Brisbane is my first preference due to their interest and also the fact I grew up in Queensland and my family are there," McGuane, an unrestricted free agent, said.
"It also helps that I get along with 'Leppa' really well on and off the field.
"He's been great with me the whole time he's been at Richmond, so when he went up there I saw a lot of positives in exploring a move there."
McGuane confirmed he knocked back a mid-season contract offer from Richmond and another recently as he worked out his football future.
The key forward said it was tough to leave Richmond and his teammates after nine seasons, but he had decided he needed to get out of his comfort zone to revitalise his career.
More to come.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/mcguane-to-leave-tigers
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Goodnight sweet prince
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Compensation pick 251
Good luck champ although 5 years too late
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Use the money to beat Collingwood to get Adams ?
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massive mistake by the Tigers
will be the next Wayne Carey
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:clapping
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
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Cya later McGoofy l knew you wanted to go home last year. Thanks for the service in the VFL ;D
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Not sure what's funnier
What gerks said or that he knocked back our offer mid year
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
Lol, why do you think we get nothing for them? Wait and see.
You could also look at it that last season we got Chaplin and Knights and gave nothing :whistle
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
As opposed to the 2 we picked up last year?
I know what I would prefer.
Or should we discuss getting Bacher for nix in the pr season draft?
But why would we let the facts get in the way of an irrational bitch?
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Cya later McGoofy l knew you wanted to go home last year. Thanks for the service in the VFL ;D
That's no way to talk about McG
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
Lol, why do you think we get nothing for them? Wait and see.
You could also look at it that last season we got Chaplin and Knights and gave nothing :whistle
Didn't realise the rule behind FA, thought we didn't receive anything if they walked as FA, only thought we received something if they are RFA.
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SNIP :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults & petty sniping
Don't care who started it
Just stick the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
Lol, why do you think we get nothing for them? Wait and see.
You could also look at it that last season we got Chaplin and Knights and gave nothing :whistle
Didn't realise the rule behind FA, thought we didn't receive anything if they walked as FA, only thought we received something if they are RFA.
If you check out some of the other threads you'll note its been mentioned we'll get compo most of the morning.
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SNIP :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults & petty sniping
Don't care who started it
Just stick the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should just let it go for a few weeks, see how it pans out. You deserve some more me time. Win/Win.
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
Lol, why do you think we get nothing for them? Wait and see.
You could also look at it that last season we got Chaplin and Knights and gave nothing :whistle
Didn't realise the rule behind FA, thought we didn't receive anything if they walked as FA, only thought we received something if they are RFA.
If you check out some of the other threads you'll note its been mentioned we'll get compo most of the morning.
Cheers.
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SNIP :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults & petty sniping
Don't care who started it
Just stick the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should just let it go for a few weeks, see how it pans out. You deserve some more me time. Win/Win.
Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
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SNIP :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults & petty sniping
Don't care who started it
Just stick the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should just let it go for a few weeks, see how it pans out. You deserve some more me time. Win/Win.
Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
:lol :cheers
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Cya Luke. Gave us very little so no loss.
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What would the likely compo be? Is it based on the wage they offer or at the descretion of the AFL? (Sorry if thus has been answered elsewhere)
It's a lucky dip! Pick a number and pray!!
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What would the likely compo be? Is it based on the wage they offer or at the descretion of the AFL? (Sorry if thus has been answered elsewhere)
Only a handful of picks behind Franklin in the same draft pool
26yr/27, in the prime of his footballing life
192cm equally solid CHB/CHF
Top 20 pick for the Broadbeach beast I would expect
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What would the likely compo be? Is it based on the wage they offer or at the descretion of the AFL? (Sorry if thus has been answered elsewhere)
Only a handful of picks behind Franklin in the same draft pool
26yr/27, in the prime of his footballing life
192cm equally solid CHB/CHF
Top 20 pick for the Broadbeach beast I would expect
:clapping
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And you allow those pernicious, personal snipes of McGuane ahead of my Nahas post which was factual and a little bit emotional :police:
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SNIP :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults & petty sniping
Don't care who started it
Just stick the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should just let it go for a few weeks, see how it pans out. You deserve some more me time. Win/Win.
Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
:lol well played
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Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
Yeh Gerks you should mind your own business on an open internet footy fan forum. You can only respond to your own posts from now on. :wallywink
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Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
Yeh Gerks you should mind your own business on an open internet footy fan forum. You can only respond to your own posts from now on. :wallywink
Look out, here comes his brother 5cents.... :whistle
Cant wait for the entire family to arrive including fiddy..
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Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
Yeh Gerks you should mind your own business on an open internet footy fan forum. You can only respond to your own posts from now on. :wallywink
:lol Golden Dice.
(http://1y4o79syc6g4difua2cvof9qco.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gold_dice.png)
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Back to the topic...
I think Luke made a wise call.
With AEdwards and Mc Bean pressing, his gametime as a fwd was limited. Though he did add athleticsm and defensive pressure as the 3rd tall fwd.
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He made up his mind during the year to leave & move back closer to his family. Wouldn't surprise me a bit, If he plays some great football up there being in his comfort zone. sometimes wonder why he stayed so long.
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I think his one glowing contribution was that tackle in round 1 to seal the win :clapping
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Back to the topic...
I think Luke made a wise call.
With AEdwards and Mc Bean pressing, his gametime as a fwd was limited. Though he did add athleticsm and defensive pressure as the 3rd tall fwd.
Agree, I think the side is condensing a bit more now with Tuck going allowing opportunity for a trade hopeful or a current player to fill that role. White going allows another opening for a current player and with McGuane gone, as you have stated, McBean will come though with Edwards filly the interim role. This will give us the chance to play others as the sub...opens up the door a little more with these 3 gone and at no great loss.
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Has someone broken the news to HK Tiger?
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Did we get Longer as a straight swap in the McGuane deal? ;D Don't ask, don't get....
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Look out, here comes his brother 5cents.... :whistle
Cant wait for the entire family to arrive including fiddy..
That's actually pretty funny.
:clapping
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yeah I thought it was funny too .had a chuckle
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This is where it gets tricky tigers, keeping depth players!
All the best to Luke and whitey would of been a loss 2 years ago, not now although they would of been handy in reserve.....
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Mcgaune geniue list blocker
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Ill actually miss him. He provided good depth and great forward 50 pressure, he could also take a ripper mark and kick goals as well. Never really played 4 quarters, but good depth.
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Stiffled the development of Griff Elton bean
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how did mcguanne stop elton and griff from performing at coburg? neither of their output at coburg could match mcguannes for richmond.
bean would have earned a game but he broke
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Griffs progress was stifled because
1.he couldn't get near the pill
2.he spent too much time in the medical room
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Retire 16 :clapping
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Lukey McMong
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Isn't it interesting that the day after we announce a female president, McGuane walks out of the club. Misogynist!
Retire 16 :clapping
:lol
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
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:clapping
Thanks Lukey, for the memories!!!!!
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
Once he licks the Cheezels off his fingers and manages to type in his password I'm sure we'll hear all about it.
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:lol
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Ill actually miss him. He provided good depth and great forward 50 pressure, he could also take a ripper mark and kick goals as well. Never really played 4 quarters, but good depth.
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Liked his work as a forward much better than as a defender.
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Ill actually miss him. He provided good depth and great forward 50 pressure, he could also take a ripper mark and kick goals as well. Never really played 4 quarters, but good depth.
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Liked his work as a forward much better than as a defender.
Was also a good bloke, and always happy to take photos with the kids even when they were going bezerk :lol hope he does well at the lions
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Free agency.
The end of the game as we knew it.
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Is it just me or 'how the f?!k can we be close to to a full salary cap?'
We have one genuine A grader in Cotch. Genuine A graders being Ablett, Buddy, Swan, Mitchell and the like.
We have about 3 B graders and the rest are just young or not that good.
Lids- been pretty good but I wouldn't put him in A grade class. To easily tagged out of games and his finish in our B&F would say the same.
Jack- if you hadn't seen him play that year he kicked 70 odd and won the Coleman, you would say he is a C grader. Last few years have been ordinary.
Dusty- improving every year but still only a B grader at present. Needs to be more consistent for longer in games.
So how in the hell are other sides with much better lists affording to entice good players from other clubs?
Are we that badly run??
Or are we to bloody arrogant to realize we are a fair way off??
How does a team like Sydney with all their stars pick up Tippitt and Buddy in consecutive years. I know they have extra salary cap space but not that much!
With the likes of Whitey and McGuane leaving surely we can afford young Adams from GWS?? Or somebody that might push us up that little bit higher.
You can shove Hampson and any other dud like that up your bum, we don't need anymore list cloggers. We need more 'best 22' players. That's the only way we are going to improve our ladder position.
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Free agency.
The end of the game as we knew it.
What's the quote from the Last boy scout?
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Ill actually miss him. He provided good depth and great forward 50 pressure, he could also take a ripper mark and kick goals as well. Never really played 4 quarters, but good depth.
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Liked his work as a forward much better than as a defender.
To be fair when he was a defender the ball came down at a 100 miles an hour 200 times a game and he was our best or second best defender for a year or two under Wallace. In a poor team, with a poor midfield, a poor defense and a poor coaching panel he was one of the better performers. He was/is pretty popular around the club too. I don't ever think he had the muscle to be a good defender but he did OK.
I hope he does well at brissie and gets a couple more years at least.
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Paying too many c graders money they don't deserve
As I have said you want quality you have to pay a premium
My thoughts are if you can afford to pay Grigg 350K then Adams is worth 400k
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Paying too many c graders money they don't deserve
As I have said you want quality you have to pay a premium
My thoughts are if you can afford to pay Grigg 350K then Adams is worth 400k
if its true that grigg is on 350k its a disgrace. shouldnt be getting any more than 200k lets say 250k and thats a stretch.
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Is it just me or 'how the f?!k can we be close to to a full salary cap?'
We have one genuine A grader in Cotch. Genuine A graders being Ablett, Buddy, Swan, Mitchell and the like.
We have about 3 B graders and the rest are just young or not that good.
Lids- been pretty good but I wouldn't put him in A grade class. To easily tagged out of games and his finish in our B&F would say the same.
Jack- if you hadn't seen him play that year he kicked 70 odd and won the Coleman, you would say he is a C grader. Last few years have been ordinary.
Dusty- improving every year but still only a B grader at present. Needs to be more consistent for longer in games.
So how in the hell are other sides with much better lists affording to entice good players from other clubs?
Are we that badly run??
Or are we to bloody arrogant to realize we are a fair way off??
How does a team like Sydney with all their stars pick up Tippitt and Buddy in consecutive years. I know they have extra salary cap space but not that much!
With the likes of Whitey and McGuane leaving surely we can afford young Adams from GWS?? Or somebody that might push us up that little bit higher.
You can shove Hampson and any other dud like that up your bum, we don't need anymore list cloggers. We need more 'best 22' players. That's the only way we are going to improve our ladder position.
Big Tone,
The salery cap is an interesting one in that even though there is a maximum amount payable (9.1million) there is a minimum amount you have to pay (8.6million) or 95% of the cap. So regardless of who you have on your list someone has to be getting the cash.
There were rumors going around for years that McGuane was on 500k a year and this was probably true at the time because regardless who was at the club at the time the minimum of 8.6million had to go somewhere!
This is why the extra million dollars a year to Sydney is a massive advantage to them. They have had bigger names retire or leave in the last few seasons that would free up some cash but for them to be able to afford both Tippett and Franklin back to back shows exactly how unfair the advantage to them is.
We may well have free'd up around 1 million dollars with Tuck, White and McGuane moving on which sounds great but if we were to bring in 5 new kids that will take up around $750K for those new guys alone! I know there will be another couple to go yet but it doesn't leave much in the kitty to pay big bucks to lure a big name across. The reality of it is the Salary cap floor sux ass, clubs should be able to play players what hey think there worth and not pay half the side overs just because we have to.
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Yep thank the PA for teams like Melbourne having to pay 95% of the salary cap
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See you Luke, all the best....that's two players that have left now and we get nothing for....
thats two players who should have been cut yrs ago and finally they are gone.
sad thing is those in charge coiulndt make the call on these types and they went on their own accord.thank god for f/a.
its a concern about those in charge though.
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Is it just me or 'how the f?!k can we be close to to a full salary cap?'
We have one genuine A grader in Cotch. Genuine A graders being Ablett, Buddy, Swan, Mitchell and the like.
We have about 3 B graders and the rest are just young or not that good.
Lids- been pretty good but I wouldn't put him in A grade class. To easily tagged out of games and his finish in our B&F would say the same.
Jack- if you hadn't seen him play that year he kicked 70 odd and won the Coleman, you would say he is a C grader. Last few years have been ordinary.
Dusty- improving every year but still only a B grader at present. Needs to be more consistent for longer in games.
So how in the hell are other sides with much better lists affording to entice good players from other clubs?
Are we that badly run??
Or are we to bloody arrogant to realize we are a fair way off??
How does a team like Sydney with all their stars pick up Tippitt and Buddy in consecutive years. I know they have extra salary cap space but not that much!
With the likes of Whitey and McGuane leaving surely we can afford young Adams from GWS?? Or somebody that might push us up that little bit higher.
You can shove Hampson and any other dud like that up your bum, we don't need anymore list cloggers. We need more 'best 22' players. That's the only way we are going to improve our ladder position.
Big Tone,
The salery cap is an interesting one in that even though there is a maximum amount payable (9.1million) there is a minimum amount you have to pay (8.6million) or 95% of the cap. So regardless of who you have on your list someone has to be getting the cash.
There were rumors going around for years that McGuane was on 500k a year and this was probably true at the time because regardless who was at the club at the time the minimum of 8.6million had to go somewhere!
This is why the extra million dollars a year to Sydney is a massive advantage to them. They have had bigger names retire or leave in the last few seasons that would free up some cash but for them to be able to afford both Tippett and Franklin back to back shows exactly how unfair the advantage to them is.
We may well have free'd up around 1 million dollars with Tuck, White and McGuane moving on which sounds great but if we were to bring in 5 new kids that will take up around $750K for those new guys alone! I know there will be another couple to go yet but it doesn't leave much in the kitty to pay big bucks to lure a big name across. The reality of it is the Salary cap floor sux ass, clubs should be able to play players what hey think there worth and not pay half the side overs just because we have to.
I understand all that but why not give our average players, like Nahas, McGaune, White, Batchelor, Astbury, the list goes on, one year contracts on good money to be able to pay 95% of the salary cap and delist them at years end if we need the cash for better players? Now there is FA we should try and be much more flexible. For example this year you would say "see ya" to that lot and say "hello" to Adams and a couple of kids.
And if by chance Astbury or somebody starts to show something during the year, sign him up for another year before the end of the year to keep him.
These type of players aren't going anywhere, why lock ourselves into contracts for more than one year.
I have said it before, we need to improve our best 22, pick the weak links and upgrade them. We proved this year you can improve your list/depth with smart picks on our rookie list.
Every player coming into your club should have the potential to improve our best 22.
The Griggs, Houli's, Knight's can only get you so far.
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
mate im over the moon 3 down 2 or 3 to go nahas derickx and one other from list proper go plus 3 or 4 of the rookies i get my 8 to 10 scenario. get the nd picks rights and some astute trades/fa/delisted/ state league players and the list can really improve.
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just in time for richmond vfl team :clapping
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Is it just me or 'how the f?!k can we be close to to a full salary cap?'
We have one genuine A grader in Cotch. Genuine A graders being Ablett, Buddy, Swan, Mitchell and the like.
We have about 3 B graders and the rest are just young or not that good.
Lids- been pretty good but I wouldn't put him in A grade class. To easily tagged out of games and his finish in our B&F would say the same.
Jack- if you hadn't seen him play that year he kicked 70 odd and won the Coleman, you would say he is a C grader. Last few years have been ordinary.
Dusty- improving every year but still only a B grader at present. Needs to be more consistent for longer in games.
So how in the hell are other sides with much better lists affording to entice good players from other clubs?
Are we that badly run??
Or are we to bloody arrogant to realize we are a fair way off??
How does a team like Sydney with all their stars pick up Tippitt and Buddy in consecutive years. I know they have extra salary cap space but not that much!
With the likes of Whitey and McGuane leaving surely we can afford young Adams from GWS?? Or somebody that might push us up that little bit higher.
You can shove Hampson and any other dud like that up your bum, we don't need anymore list cloggers. We need more 'best 22' players. That's the only way we are going to improve our ladder position.
Big Tone,
The salery cap is an interesting one in that even though there is a maximum amount payable (9.1million) there is a minimum amount you have to pay (8.6million) or 95% of the cap. So regardless of who you have on your list someone has to be getting the cash.
There were rumors going around for years that McGuane was on 500k a year and this was probably true at the time because regardless who was at the club at the time the minimum of 8.6million had to go somewhere!
This is why the extra million dollars a year to Sydney is a massive advantage to them. They have had bigger names retire or leave in the last few seasons that would free up some cash but for them to be able to afford both Tippett and Franklin back to back shows exactly how unfair the advantage to them is.
We may well have free'd up around 1 million dollars with Tuck, White and McGuane moving on which sounds great but if we were to bring in 5 new kids that will take up around $750K for those new guys alone! I know there will be another couple to go yet but it doesn't leave much in the kitty to pay big bucks to lure a big name across. The reality of it is the Salary cap floor sux ass, clubs should be able to play players what hey think there worth and not pay half the side overs just because we have to.
I understand all that but why not give our average players, like Nahas, McGaune, White, Batchelor, Astbury, the list goes on, one year contracts on good money to be able to pay 95% of the salary cap and delist them at years end if we need the cash for better players? Now there is FA we should try and be much more flexible. For example this year you would say "see ya" to that lot and say "hello" to Adams and a couple of kids.
And if by chance Astbury or somebody starts to show something during the year, sign him up for another year before the end of the year to keep him.
These type of players aren't going anywhere, why lock ourselves into contracts for more than one year.
I have said it before, we need to improve our best 22, pick the weak links and upgrade them. We proved this year you can improve your list/depth with smart picks on our rookie list.
Every player coming into your club should have the potential to improve our best 22.
The Griggs, Houli's, Knight's can only get you so far.
far too much common sense there big fella.
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Good luck Luke , what a marvelous career, all the best, look forward to seeing you notch up 200 games :clapping
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Is it just me or 'how the f?!k can we be close to to a full salary cap?'
We have one genuine A grader in Cotch. Genuine A graders being Ablett, Buddy, Swan, Mitchell and the like.
We have about 3 B graders and the rest are just young or not that good.
Lids- been pretty good but I wouldn't put him in A grade class. To easily tagged out of games and his finish in our B&F would say the same.
Jack- if you hadn't seen him play that year he kicked 70 odd and won the Coleman, you would say he is a C grader. Last few years have been ordinary.
Dusty- improving every year but still only a B grader at present. Needs to be more consistent for longer in games.
So how in the hell are other sides with much better lists affording to entice good players from other clubs?
Are we that badly run??
Or are we to bloody arrogant to realize we are a fair way off??
How does a team like Sydney with all their stars pick up Tippitt and Buddy in consecutive years. I know they have extra salary cap space but not that much!
With the likes of Whitey and McGuane leaving surely we can afford young Adams from GWS?? Or somebody that might push us up that little bit higher.
You can shove Hampson and any other dud like that up your bum, we don't need anymore list cloggers. We need more 'best 22' players. That's the only way we are going to improve our ladder position.
Big Tone,
The salery cap is an interesting one in that even though there is a maximum amount payable (9.1million) there is a minimum amount you have to pay (8.6million) or 95% of the cap. So regardless of who you have on your list someone has to be getting the cash.
There were rumors going around for years that McGuane was on 500k a year and this was probably true at the time because regardless who was at the club at the time the minimum of 8.6million had to go somewhere!
This is why the extra million dollars a year to Sydney is a massive advantage to them. They have had bigger names retire or leave in the last few seasons that would free up some cash but for them to be able to afford both Tippett and Franklin back to back shows exactly how unfair the advantage to them is.
We may well have free'd up around 1 million dollars with Tuck, White and McGuane moving on which sounds great but if we were to bring in 5 new kids that will take up around $750K for those new guys alone! I know there will be another couple to go yet but it doesn't leave much in the kitty to pay big bucks to lure a big name across. The reality of it is the Salary cap floor sux ass, clubs should be able to play players what hey think there worth and not pay half the side overs just because we have to.
I understand all that but why not give our average players, like Nahas, McGaune, White, Batchelor, Astbury, the list goes on, one year contracts on good money to be able to pay 95% of the salary cap and delist them at years end if we need the cash for better players? Now there is FA we should try and be much more flexible. For example this year you would say "see ya" to that lot and say "hello" to Adams and a couple of kids.
And if by chance Astbury or somebody starts to show something during the year, sign him up for another year before the end of the year to keep him.
These type of players aren't going anywhere, why lock ourselves into contracts for more than one year.
I have said it before, we need to improve our best 22, pick the weak links and upgrade them. We proved this year you can improve your list/depth with smart picks on our rookie list.
Every player coming into your club should have the potential to improve our best 22.
The Griggs, Houli's, Knight's can only get you so far.
I absolutely 100% agree mate but the biggest problem at the moment is gouge gotta give something to get something. Adams would be a great get but if we can't match what another club offers then were going to luck out. The lower end of the list is slowly coming on but unfortunately we still don't have any tradable comoditys.
If you look at a club like Hawthorn, they have given up Kenedy and McGlynn(for 39,46,70) Murphy(FA no compo) Young (66) Sierakowskie(58) Gilham(29,68) Brown, Lisle(29), Renouf (33) and Mark Williams.
Now at the time any of these guys would have been highly rated on our list as they were on Hawthorn's but the difference is they had the balls to make the trades!
In return for all these player traded Hawthorn received Josh Gibson (pick 25-41) Taylor Dureya (69) Sam Grimley (39) Ben Stratton (46) Matt Suckling (70 rookie promotion) Gunston (24-46-68) Brad Hill (33) Jed Anderson(part of Gillham Deal) Brian Lake (21-41)
If you look at our list this year aside from Foley I just can't see who is tradable to either A) pick up someone decent or B) get a decent draft pick for.
As the list developes hopefully we will be in a position to have a few players we need to squeeze out of the side that have some trade value!!
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
mate im over the moon 3 down 2 or 3 to go nahas derickx and one other from list proper go plus 3 or 4 of the rookies i get my 8 to 10 scenario. get the nd picks rights and some astute trades/fa/delisted/ state league players and the list can really improve.
Maybe Al will apologise for the unnecessary ranting at you
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Always gave his all, good luck Luke.
105 games, some McGuane father sons to look forward too.
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Damaged by Wallace & all who were under him. Could have been a very good footballer had he been played in his normal position. But 105 games in 9 years in a very weak side says it all. l reckon we should send Rewoldt to Brisbane & let McGoofy get his 10 years service up. he does pull off some great hangers :thumbsup
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Nae, just damaged
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
mate im over the moon 3 down 2 or 3 to go nahas derickx and one other from list proper go plus 3 or 4 of the rookies i get my 8 to 10 scenario. get the nd picks rights and some astute trades/fa/delisted/ state league players and the list can really improve.
Maybe Al will apologise for the unnecessary ranting at you
By unnessesary ranting are you saying that my reasoning is just totally off tap, or that if you ask a question you shouldnt expect a response that actualy addresses the question and accept long winder answers that dance around subject and get belittled for something you are not suggesting.?
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
mate im over the moon 3 down 2 or 3 to go nahas derickx and one other from list proper go plus 3 or 4 of the rookies i get my 8 to 10 scenario. get the nd picks rights and some astute trades/fa/delisted/ state league players and the list can really improve.
Maybe Al will apologise for the unnecessary ranting at you
By unnessesary ranting are you saying that my reasoning is just totally off tap, or that if you ask a question you shouldnt expect a response that actualy addresses the question and accept long winder answers that dance around subject and get belittled for something you are not suggesting.?
lol lets not turn this thread into another off topic rant. all i can say is yes im probably part to blame but it takes two to tango.id say your reasoning at times is unreasonable.
id say a lot of people would say the same about me.
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Good luck Luke , what a marvelous career, all the best, look forward to seeing you notch up 200 games :clapping
:lol if he makes 150 games he be lucky ;D
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Will be lucky to make 15 quality games
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White and McGuane gone, I reckon claw is doing cartwheels
mate im over the moon 3 down 2 or 3 to go nahas derickx and one other from list proper go plus 3 or 4 of the rookies i get my 8 to 10 scenario. get the nd picks rights and some astute trades/fa/delisted/ state league players and the list can really improve.
Maybe Al will apologise for the unnecessary ranting at you
By unnessesary ranting are you saying that my reasoning is just totally off tap, or that if you ask a question you shouldnt expect a response that actualy addresses the question and accept long winder answers that dance around subject and get belittled for something you are not suggesting.?
Neither, just throwing a firecracker into the 8-10 delist fire to see what happens, actually a little disappointed cause I was hoping Claw would do a post that would stretch over an entire page. Has that ever happened?
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He'll get games up there with J Brown getting on like he is.
What's the bet he plays 20 games next year and jags 30-40 goals? Ill put $20 on that.
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Move to forwardline really suited him. Could take a really good contested grab and was good at tackling but he was a shocking kick for goal and floated in and out of games too easily. Long term future at Richmond was in doubt. Good luck to him. Lost two experienced players in a week.
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Just like getting rid of Raines, this is going to cost us big time when the Lions make the finals next year
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Move to forwardline really suited him. Could take a really good contested grab and was good at tackling but he was a shocking kick for goal and floated in and out of games too easily. Long term future at Richmond was in doubt. Good luck to him. Lost two experienced players in a week.
But no one plays 4 quarters so dw about him drifting in and out ::)
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So do we get another comp pick for him as well as White?
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So do we get another comp pick for him as well as White?
No...as they were both unrestricted FA's they will bundle up a pick for both.
Makes it more likely it will be a end of second rounder.
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So do we get another comp pick for him as well as White?
No...as they were both unrestricted FA's they will bundle up a pick for both.
Makes it more likely it will be an end if second rounder.
Prefer that than two end of 3rd rounders (if we're lucky :lol)
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So do we get another comp pick for him as well as White?
No...as they were both unrestricted FA's they will bundle up a pick for both.
Makes it more likely it will be a end of second rounder.
Is there no rules? AFL just make things up :huh
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Move to forwardline really suited him. Could take a really good contested grab and was good at tackling but he was a shocking kick for goal and floated in and out of games too easily. Long term future at Richmond was in doubt. Good luck to him. Lost two experienced players in a week.
But no one plays 4 quarters so dw about him drifting in and out ::)
Perhaps drifting is not the right word. McGuane would completely disappear in games.
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warping into and out of games like Doctor Who ?
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Well a second round pick would be just fine thank you!
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So do we get another comp pick for him as well as White?
No...as they were both unrestricted FA's they will bundle up a pick for both.
Makes it more likely it will be a end of second rounder.
can we bundle another in and make it start of 2nd rnd.
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Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
Yeh Gerks you should mind your own business on an open internet footy fan forum. You can only respond to your own posts from now on. :wallywink
LMFAO I thought he was talking about an accounting program and having a crack at WP :lol
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Free agency.
The end of the game as we knew it.
Yeah, now our spuds can leave when the club won't trade them :clapping
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Hey 2cents MYOB for a change. :wallywink
Yeh Gerks you should mind your own business on an open internet footy fan forum. You can only respond to your own posts from now on. :wallywink
LMFAO I thought he was talking about an accounting program and having a crack at WP :lol
So did I? Have I missed something? >:( :help
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Lions national talent manager Rob Kerr on Trade Radio:
"Justin [Leppitsch] sees some value in Luke coming to Brisbane, one factor being added depth.
We've told Luke, we think there's a spot there for you. We're not entirely sure how this period will go."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
Luke McGuane's bid to get to the Lions as a free agent is dependant on a number of factors, including the aforementioned negotiations as well as the future of star veteran Simon Black, who is weighing up a decision whether to continue for another year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-09/lions-bare-trade-teeth
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Player manager Tim Hazell tells Gillette Trade Radio a deal to send Tigers big man Luke McGuane to the Brisbane Lions is "pretty close".
McGuane is an unrestricted free agent, so the Lions won't need to trade with Richmond. It's just a matter of club and player agreeing on contract terms.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade-period/trade-radio
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Richmond defender Luke McGuane may have to wait until the trade period ends before moving to the Brisbane Lions as a delisted free agent, rather than signing with the club by the end of the initial free-agency period on Friday. While McGuane quit the Tigers two weeks ago saying he would like to play for the Lions, he did not have an offer from the club and Brisbane is unsure how many spots it will have available on its list until it works through a number of trades.
The club has five youngsters looking for new homes - Billy Longer, Jared Polec, Elliot Yeo, Patrick Karnezis and Sam Docherty - but is hopeful it can convince Longer to stay and is looking to trade in players as well as draft picks, meaning McGuane might have to wait.
The free agency period finishes on Friday, but clubs will have further opportunities to sign players as delisted free agents. If not signed this week, McGuane could ultimately delist himself from Richmond.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dockers-keeping-gumbleton-waiting-20131013-2vgsv.html
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Richmond defender Luke McGuane may have to wait until the trade period ends before moving to the Brisbane Lions as a delisted free agent, rather than signing with the club by the end of the initial free-agency period on Friday. While McGuane quit the Tigers two weeks ago saying he would like to play for the Lions, he did not have an offer from the club and Brisbane is unsure how many spots it will have available on its list until it works through a number of trades.
He hasn't been a defender in ages! And for good reason too!
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The Lions will not nominate Luke McGuane as a free agent by Friday's deadline, meaning Richmond will not be compensated for the loss of the 26-year-old.
The Tigers had hoped that losing McGuane and Matt White (to Port Adelaide) would slightly increase their net compensation, but the Lions will instead wait and secure McGuane as a delisted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-dan-jackson-talks-up-ivan-maric-shaun-hampson-ruck-combination/story-fndv8t7m-1226741100634
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The Lions will not nominate Luke McGuane as a free agent by Friday's deadline, meaning Richmond will not be compensated for the loss of the 26-year-old.
The Tigers had hoped that losing McGuane and Matt White (to Port Adelaide) would slightly increase their net compensation, but the Lions will instead wait and secure McGuane as a delisted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-dan-jackson-talks-up-ivan-maric-shaun-hampson-ruck-combination/story-fndv8t7m-1226741100634
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Why can't we just offer him a 12 month minimum wage contract?
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We don't want spuds on our list anymore?
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The Lions will not nominate Luke McGuane as a free agent by Friday's deadline, meaning Richmond will not be compensated for the loss of the 26-year-old.
The Tigers had hoped that losing McGuane and Matt White (to Port Adelaide) would slightly increase their net compensation, but the Lions will instead wait and secure McGuane as a delisted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-dan-jackson-talks-up-ivan-maric-shaun-hampson-ruck-combination/story-fndv8t7m-1226741100634
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Why can't we just offer him a 12 month minimum wage contract?
Why stuff him around?
If we don't want him, we should let him go.
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what do brisbane gain by not signing him now, or what do they lose by signing him now?
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The Lions will not nominate Luke McGuane as a free agent by Friday's deadline, meaning Richmond will not be compensated for the loss of the 26-year-old.
The Tigers had hoped that losing McGuane and Matt White (to Port Adelaide) would slightly increase their net compensation, but the Lions will instead wait and secure McGuane as a delisted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-dan-jackson-talks-up-ivan-maric-shaun-hampson-ruck-combination/story-fndv8t7m-1226741100634
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Why can't we just offer him a 12 month minimum wage contract?
Why stuff him around?
If we don't want him, we should let him go.
Plus he's quit the club means he doesn't want to be there
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are you sure he quit the club?
wasnt it said recently that the only bloke they didn't re-sign that they wanted was white?
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Cannot see how it is in RFC interest to keep a 100+ game 8-year veteran on the list that has stated that he wants out on the playing group.
I agree that holding out for a compensation pick is a well considered strategic move by he club, however there is no currency and sometimes the best interest is served by amputation ... Cut and move on asap for both parties sake as there is less infection.
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are you sure he quit the club?
wasnt it said recently that the only bloke they didn't re-sign that they wanted was white?
Yep, all the media stories are saying he has quit the club to likely go to Brisbane
Also, Luke himself has said he was twice offered a new contract and had knocked them back to try FA, so to me at least that's a pretty reasonable sign that he wants to move on
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are you sure he quit the club?
wasnt it said recently that the only bloke they didn't re-sign that they wanted was white?
Yep, all the media stories are saying he has quit the club to likely go to Brisbane
Also, Luke himself has said he was twice offered a new contract and had knocked them back to try FA, so to me at least that's a pretty reasonable sign that he wants to move on
so he isn't delisted free agent because he quit.
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Black retired. Maybe they will sign McGuane up today
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Hire black as a coach
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And that's it; free agency is done for the year.
Luke McGuane will be delisted by Richmond and Brisbane will attain him as a delisted free agent.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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That's disgusting, walking into another club for nothing, AFL should be ashamed of themselves, its quite obvious that was intent of the Lions all along!! :banghead
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why? they had nothing to gain or lose either way
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Should of asked for some twisties
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That's disgusting, walking into another club for nothing, AFL should be ashamed of themselves, its quite obvious that was intent of the Lions all along!! :banghead
That's how true Free agency works WAT
Don't blame the AFL blame the players. The AFLPA made FA something that had to be included in the current CBA. And the AFL making sure their rules don't get challenged in the courts folded like a deck of cards
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To be quiet honest we got exactly what McGuane was worth
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these rules were made so players like McGoofy who was refused trading previously could walk away from clubs who held them. Mcgoofy wanted out several seasons ago but a trade couldnot be done to suit. let him go out the door he was never worth a cracker but 1 up his clacker.
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McGuane gone for zip as a delisted free agent.
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McGuane gone for zip as a delisted free agent.
Didn't hear anything about that?
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To be perfectly honest he isn't worth anything, why's everyone jumping up and down about it?
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To be perfectly honest he isn't worth anything, why's everyone jumping up and down about it?
They are? What morons.
WGAF.Cheers for your efforts Macca and good luck at the Lions
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Lions list meeting holds key to McGuane future
Jason Phelan
The Age
October 27, 2013
Richmond free agent Luke McGuane will know on Tuesday if he will continue his career with the Brisbane Lions, but axed Magpie ruckman Darren Jolly faces a longer wait to find out if he will prolong his career with St Kilda.
The Lions will determine if they have room on their list for McGuane, who has expressed his desire to play under new coach Justin Leppitsch in his home state, at a pivotal list management meeting on Tuesday.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/lions-list-meeting-holds-key-to-mcguane-future-20131026-2w8ql.html
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Richmond forward Luke McGuane says he has no guarantee of joining Brisbane Lions
Al Paton
From: Herald Sun
October 29, 2013 11:04AM
LUKE McGuane says he has no deal in place to join Brisbane after walking out on Richmond.
McGuane wants to move home to Queensland after eight seasons at Tigerland and quit Richmond to become a delisted free agent.
But the Lions are yet to take up the option of recruiting the 192cm swingman.
"We've spoken but there's no 100 per cent deal or anything like that," McGuane told SEN today.
"I'm hopeful and I'd like to think there's a little bit more than a chance I'll get there, but obviously I'm putting most of my eggs in one basket."
Asked what guarantees he had from the Lions, McGuane said: "None at all at the moment.
"If it doesn't work out between us I'll have to look at other options."
McGuane said the timing seemed right for a move home as his contract expired and Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch took the senior job at Brisbane.
"Since he first walked in the door he was my backline coach and we struck up a good relationship there, and he went to offensive coach when I went forward so we have been together pretty much since our time at the Tigers together," he said.
"I spoke to Leppa and it wasn't out of the question (that I could join) the Brisbane Lions so I just thought if I'm going to go for that chance, I've got to go home while the chance is there."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-forward-luke-mcguane-says-he-has-no-guarantee-of-joining-brisbane-lions/story-fnfll94y-1226748847986
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Since when does quitting your club equal delisted? ::)
Can we get Dangerfield to quit Adelaide next year and become a delisted free agent?
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Since when does quitting your club equal delisted? ::)
Can we get Dangerfield to quit Adelaide next year and become a delisted free agent?
McGuane is still on our list until 31 October, that's when his contract expires or until he is officially de-listed by the Tigers and we haven't officially done anything on the de-listing front
Players can "quit" their clubs but until they are officially removed from a list then they are technically still a listed player
So yes Dangerfiled can "quit"Adel next year when his contract expires and if they can't do a deal (subject to him not being a FA) then once he is de-listed he would become a de-listed free agent
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I'd like to re rookie him
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Since when does quitting your club equal delisted? ::)
Can we get Dangerfield to quit Adelaide next year and become a delisted free agent?
McGuane is still on our list until 31 October, that's when his contract expires or until he is officially de-listed by the Tigers and we haven't officially done anything on the de-listing front
Players can "quit" their clubs but until they are officially removed from a list then they are technically still a listed player
So yes Dangerfiled can "quit"Adel next year when his contract expires and if they can't do a deal (subject to him not being a FA) then once he is de-listed he would become a de-listed free agent
if dangerfield quit adelaide then he would not become a free agent.
Players delisted by a club are unrestricted free agents but a player who retires or delists himself is not eligible to be a free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/free-agency
So, by that criteria, if the club offered Mcguane a contract and he turned it down, then he is not a delisted free agent.
If he was not offered a contract, then he is a delisted free agent.
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Players delisted by a club are unrestricted free agents but a player who retires or delists himself is not eligible to be a free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/free-agency
So, by that criteria, if the club offered Mcguane a contract and he turned it down, then he is not a delisted free agent.
If he was not offered a contract, then he is a delisted free agent.
I don't read it that way because it doesn't mention what happens if a player is offered a contract and doesn't accept it.
McGuane hasn't de-listed himself, hasn't retired and currently is still on our list so I take it to mean he will become de-listed free agent once the club de-lists him.
And that's the logic I applied regarding the Dangerfield scenario
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If it works that way then it will be real easy clubs and players to circumnavigate the whole system of free agency.
To me its pretty straight forward. If they are not offered a contract then they are a delisted free agent.
If they get offered a contract but reject it, then they have delisted themselves, which means they are not a free agent.
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If it works that way then it will be real easy clubs and players to circumnavigate the whole system of free agency.
To me its pretty straight forward. If they are not offered a contract then they are a delisted free agent.
If they get offered a contract but reject it, then they have delisted themselves, which means they are not a free agent.
Understand what you are saying but clearly as it stands right now come Friday he will be de-listed free agent.
I still don't quite understand how declining a contract equates to de-listing yourself if the rules don't categorical state that.
Maybe that's why he will be a de-listed FA because the wording is "vague" and open to interpretation
Seeing we are talking about the AFL here maybe the wording of the rules needs some tweaking ;D
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what is delisting yourself then?
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Richmond swingman Luke McGuane close to signing new deal with Brisbane
Greg Davis
From: The Courier-Mail
October 30, 2013
RICHMOND swingman Luke McGuane could be a Brisbane Lion before the end of the week.
The 26-year-old is set to call the Gabba home when the AFL’s delisted free agents period gets underway.
Brisbane put talks with McGuane on the backburner during the three-week trade period but will look to secure the Gold Coast junior before the start of pre-season training on November 5.
McGuane played 105 senior games at Tigerland since his AFL debut in 2006 and at 192cm tall, will provide Brisbane with invaluable versatility at either end of the ground.
“He is very mobile, athletic and competitive,’’ Lions football manager Dean Warren said.
“He’ll be a good acquisition for the footy club. He knows Leppa’s gameplan well and he is a Queenslander who wants to come home too.’’.
McGuane has made a habit of following new Brisbane senior coach Justin Leppitsch.
The two worked together at Richmond when Leppitsch was defensive coach for three seasons.
Leppitsch’s move to Tigers forwards coach in 2013 coincided with McGuane being swung into the forward with good effect.
He booted three goals and took eight marks against the Lions in Richmond’s 23-point win at the MCG in Round 20 last season when he made 12 appearances for the Tigers.
“Since he (Leppitsch) first walked in the door (at Richmond) he was my backline coach and we struck up a good relationship there, and he went to offensive coach when I went forward so we have been together pretty much since our time at the Tigers together,” McGuane said.
“I spoke to Leppa and it wasn’t out of the question (that I join) the Brisbane Lions so I just thought if I’m going to go for that chance, I’ve got to go home while the chance is there.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-swingman-luke-mcguane-close-to-signing-new-deal-with-brisbane/story-fndv8d6r-1226749211293
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what is delisting yourself then?
Bloody good question. I'm not sure TBBH, wonder if the AFLPA knows, or by extension the players know 100%.
Seriously, I don't know how a player can "de-list" themselves other than walking out mid contract and refusing to play for their club.
MGuane isn't the first player to be offered a new contract, decline it and then leave his club. The only thing that's different these days is the new era of Free Agency. And FA is supposed to make life easier for players to get to new clubs.
That's one of the reasons we now have this "de-listed Free Agent" category as opposed to de-listed players having to nominate for the drafts to try and get back on an AFL list
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I kind of feel sorry for him. He isn't that bad a player. With Brisbane doing a "Look...yeah...nah" about him, doesn't sound very promising.
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what is delisting yourself then?
Bloody good question. I'm not sure TBBH, wonder if the AFLPA knows, or by extension the players know 100%.
Seriously, I don't know how a player can "de-list" themselves other than walking out mid contract and refusing to play for their club.
MGuane isn't the first player to be offered a new contract, decline it and then leave his club. The only thing that's different these days is the new era of Free Agency. And FA is supposed to make life easier for players to get to new clubs.
That's one of the reasons we now have this "de-listed Free Agent" category as opposed to de-listed players having to nominate for the drafts to try and get back on an AFL list
Would martin have been a fee agent had he not accepted the clubs offer?
Did the club actually offer a contract to mcguanne?
Richardson said the only player they wanted to keep but lost was white.
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Would martin have been a fee agent had he not accepted the clubs offer?
Again good question and again I am not sure. But based on how I read what the AFL have issued regarding FA (and I think this is where we differ) if he had ended up being de-listed because they couldn't get a trade done for him then yes I think he would have been.
Because the way I read it is all players that are de-listed automatically become free agents and can be signed by any club between 1st Nov & just before the Nat Draft.
Unless the number of years on the system as something to do with it because in the case of Crameri it was said if the trade didn;'t go through he would gone to the Dogs via the PSD, there was no mention of him being a FA.
Did the club actually offer a contract to mcguanne?
The answer based on interviews/news reports with Luke that appear earlier in this thread the answer is yes they did - twice
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Here's a list of "de-listed" free agents per the AFL website both McGuane & Nahas listed with a *:
***Interesting thing in the article says that Laidler "removed himself from the list" at Carlton but he is named as a Free Agent***. So does that mean he delisted himself? If he did based on what al posted that would mean he shouldn't qualify as a FA...doesn't it? :huh :-\ Talk about confusing ;D
Delisted free agents: full list to date:
*Not yet officially delisted but have signalled intention to leave club.
Richmond
Luke McGuane*
Robin Nahas*
Adelaide
Ian Callinan
Nick Joyce
Tim Klaosen
Tim McIntyre
Dylan Orval
Brisbane Lions
Callum Bartlett
Aaron Cornelius
Niall McKeever
Stephen Wrigley
Richard Newell
Carlton
Andrew Collins
Fraser Dale
Marcus Davies
Aaron Joseph
Jeremy Laidler
Patrick McCarthy
Luke Mitchell
Rhys O'Keeffe
Collingwood
Alan Didak
Michael Hartley
Darren Jolly
Andrew Krakouer
Ben Richmond
Jordan Russell
Essendon
Luke Davis
Hal Hunter
Fremantle
Jesse Crichton
Peter Faulks
Alex Forster
Alex Howson
Haiden Schloithe
Geelong
Ryan Bathie
Cameron Eardley
Gold Coast
Jacob Gilbee
Kyal Horsley
Liam Patrick
Maverick Weller
Joel Wilkinson
Greater Western Sydney
Josh Growden
Setanta O'hAilpin
Joe Redfern
Bret Thornton
Gerald Ugle
Hawthorn
Andrew Boseley
Amos Frank
Melbourne
Tom Couch
Troy Davis
Tom Gillies
James Magner
James Sellar
Nathan Stark
Rory Taggert
Josh Tynan
North Melbourne
Jordan Gysberts
Ayden Kennedy
Ben Mabon
Cameron Richardson
Will Sierakowski
Ben Speight
Port Adelaide
Nathan Blee
Danny Butcher
Justin Hoskin
Darren Pfeiffer
Nick Salter
Daniel Stewart
Matt Thomas
St Kilda
Tom Ledger
Jay Lever
Jordan Staley
Sydney Swans
Alex Brown
West Coast
Nil
Western Bulldogs
Dylan Addison
Nick Lower
Lukas Markovic
Patrick Veszpremi
Full article:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-30/looking-for-a-new-home
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Bulldogs lowered Lower :lol
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McGuane could do a Sarge on us at the Lions :(
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McGuane could do a Sarge on us at the Lions :(
In what way? If you play him you know he is going to kick goals and be reasonably handy. Is he better than our other options though? It's a toss of a coin between him and Aaron Edwards, and we are hoping we will get an upgrade in someone like McBean or Elton etc.
He will play OK at Brisbane. Doesn't mean we lose.
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McGuane could do a Sarge on us at the Lions :(
Get constantly injured and play only 3 good games a year? suppose it's possible
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Bulldogs lowered Lower :lol
Explains why he has spent so much time visiting his Bra on the Big Brother Set.
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McGuane could do a Sarge on us at the Lions :(
Get constantly injured and play only 3 good games a year? suppose it's possible
Cue Coach.............
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Average WU attempt. Gerks has told me several times how much he rates the big fella. McG will be handy for the Lions as Roffie said.
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cmon ;D
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McGuane could do a Sarge on us at the Lions :(
the second coming of jono brown, no doubt.
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McGuane is officially now a Brisbane player.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/lions-snare-mcguane-20131104-2wwpr.html
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move of the off-season, well played Brisbane, well played :clapping
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Brisbane will be my second team now that they have big McG
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McGuane is officially now a Brisbane player.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/lions-snare-mcguane-20131104-2wwpr.html
oh thank god for that. i was getting worried we would never get him out the door. was having nightmares that brissie didnt want him and we gave him another yr.
lukes best is barely good enough, we now need to get one or two of our younger talls up to lukes best standard. i hope no one holds their breath.
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I wish him all the best.
He was by no means a star, but what he did do is give his all.
There will be no booing him from me. :lol
A really good fella too.
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Agree BT, good luck to him and wish him well
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Wish him all the best if he has taken his crap out of the locker
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McGuane is officially now a Brisbane player.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/lions-snare-mcguane-20131104-2wwpr.html
oh thank god for that. i was getting worried we would never get him out the door. was having nightmares that brissie didnt want him and we gave him another yr.
lukes best is barely good enough, we now need to get one or two of our younger talls up to lukes best standard. i hope no one holds their breath.
Claw can you now hand Nahas the Bam and a Plastic Bag as his locker is really starting to get whiffy.
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Will do a pretty fair job too leading that forward line :shh