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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 21, 2013, 08:13:09 PM
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Welcome Sam :)
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Lordo :clapping
:outtahere
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Pick 66 Sam Lloyd Richmond
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Draft/2013/LLOYD-Sam.jpg)
Former club: Frankston
DOB: 03/03/1990
Height: 180cm
Weight: 83kg
Position: Forward
Games: 17
Goals: 38
Avg Kicks: 10.1
Avg Marks: 5.5
Avg Handballs: 2.8
Player assessment
Medium forward who presents well on the lead or can crumb as a small forward. Originally from Deniliquin, NSW, where he kicked 100 goals in 2010. Represented VFL against WA this year in state game, kicking four goals.
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=591421
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Ready to go fp ?
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2013 National Draft: Pick 66 – Sam Lloyd
richmondfc.com.au
November 21, 2013 8:15 PM
“Sam continued his progression through the grades this year and was a consistent threat in the forward 50 for Frankston,” said Richmond’s Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“He is just a genuine football talent. He knows where the ball is going before anyone else, and he is outstanding at winning one-on-one contests, both in the air and at ground level.
“His marking, in particular, for someone his size, is elite. He has genuine goal ‘smarts’ and makes creative decisions with the footy.
“We feel Sam will add genuine class and goal-scoring power to the playing group.
“There is enormous upside to Sam, and with one or two AFL pre-seasons under his belt, he will be able to display his natural talents more consistently at the elite level.”
Lloyd caught the eye of the Tiger talent scouts during a debut season at VFL level with the Dolphins in 2013, which netted him 38 goals in 17 games.
The 23-year-old booted four goals while representing the combined VFL team against the WAFL, in one of his best performances of the season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-21/2013-national-draft-pick-66-sam-lloyd
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VIDEO: Sam Lloyd's 7 goal haul against Coburg in the VFL this year ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTSqN9KCO_U
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Direct opponent must have been Dea.
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Great set of highlights. Look forward to seeing this kid have a go.
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
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Playing safe I think it's called
Fair enough considering where our list has come from - Franklins
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
FFS claw. I can't follow you. We pick kids and you say late picks hide gems that play in other leagues such as state leagues. We pick bigger bodied older guys and you ask why we didn't pick skinny kids.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND SON!!!!!!
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
FFS claw. I can't follow you. We pick kids and you say late picks hide gems that play in other leagues such as state leagues. We pick bigger bodied older guys and you ask why we didn't pick skinny kids.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND SON!!!!!!
Thought exactly the same thing but just couldn't be bothered
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
FFS claw. I can't follow you. We pick kids and you say late picks hide gems that play in other leagues such as state leagues. We pick bigger bodied older guys and you ask why we didn't pick skinny kids.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND SON!!!!!!
lmao so true. My immediate thoughts were claw will be happy we hit the state leagues. Club should pack it in tbh.
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Lloydy leads three Dolphs to Draft Camps
When Sam Lloyd is asked whether 12 months ago, after just losing a heartbreaking MPNFL grand final with Mt Eliza, he could imagine where he would be today he doesn’t have to think for long.
“No, not even close mate,” he said with his Deniliquin twang.
At that point he had played four games for Essendon’s VFL team at the end of the season before helping the Redlegs to the local league decider, and he knew what he had to do to become a mainstay at state league level.
“After we lost the grand final I think I only took a week or two off, I thought I've got to get a lot fitter to play VFL,” he said.
His aim was to get a regular senior game for Frankston, but instead he electrified the boisterous Frankston Park crowds with his incredible snaps and high-flying marks, providing the x-factor the club had been missing since Justin Berry’s retirement.
The Dolphins triumphed six times in 2013, more than the previous three years combined, and for Lloyd it is a year he will never forget.
“The way things have turned out has been awesome, it’s a bit surreal,” he said.
“Winning the games we did and playing the state game. Frankston as a club is awesome, so every bit of being at the club has been great.”
Perhaps Lloyd’s most memorable moment was the Dolphins’ first win against competition powerhouse Port Melbourne, who had played in the previous two grand finals and lost just six games in two years.
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The efforts of Lloyd and former Redleg buddies Mike Lourey and Scott Simpson were also very impressive, as the trio fitted seamlessly into the club’s culture and earned higher honours.
“We all made the decision together to go down and play for Frankston,” he said.
“To play well together, make the state team and the team of the year together was awesome. I don’t think Mt Eliza were too happy but we loved it.”
Lloyd said the Mt Eliza trio took particular inspiration from two lion-hearted Dolphins, ruckman Russ Gabriel, who also made the VFL Team of the Year, and midfielder Shane Hockey, who inexplicably missed out after an incredible season around the packs.
“Shane and Russ, I reckon they sum up Frankston,” Lloyd said.
“Especially Shanna, everyone knows his story, and Russ comes up against ruckman who seem a foot taller than him each week and he still dominates, he still makes such an impact.”
The impact of Lloyd’s 38 goals and regular highlight reel plays has been an invite to the AFL Draft Combine in Canberra from October 1-4, while Simpson and Zig Alwan have gained places at the AFL State Screening.
The sociable Lloyd chose to skip the end of year festivities and has been training every day, replicating agility, sprint and beep tests and working on his conditioning to make sure he makes this shot at the big time count.
“I just want to do every test to the best that I can, stop only when I have to stop, just give 110 per cent,” he said.
“After that Ill finally have a bit of a spell and it will be out of my hands – if they want me they want me.”
If the predictions are correct the call of ‘Lloydy’ won’t reverberate around Frankston Park again next year, but like Mt Eliza before them the Dolphins will be glad for the time he graced their paddock.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10474-253880-18717706&sID=207165&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=25487108
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Pics:
(http://annaharringtonmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/samlloydwebcopy.jpg) (http://www.mmg.com.au/polopoly_fs/1.49467.1368594757!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_229/image.jpg)
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Deniliquin's Sam Lloyd shines for VFL in state match.
Former Deniliquin Rams footballer Sam Lloyd kicked four goals for the VFL in its state match against the WAFL on Saturday.
By Shaun Connor
Pastoral Times
MAY 15, 2013
Wearing the famous ‘Big V’ for the first time in his career, ex-Deniliquin Rams footballer Sam Lloyd was a standout player in the VFL’s grudge match against the WAFL on Saturday.
The 23 year-old, who plays for the Frankston Dolphins in the VFL, booted four goals and was named one of Victoria’s best players in the interstate game, arguably the highest level of football underneath the AFL.
Despite his team losing by three goals, Lloyd said the match, which was played at Northam in Western Australia, was the pinnacle of his short career so far.
‘‘It was definitely a highlight of my career, I loved it,’’ the two-time Deni Rams best and fairest said.
‘‘The standard was pretty similar to the VFL but the ball moved a bit quicker.
‘‘We only had a week to prepare so there wasn’t any structures or anything.’’
The VFL led by as much as 31 points midway through the third quarter, but was unable to stop the WAFL’s run and forward pressure in the final term.
It was the first time the Black Swans have beaten Victoria since 1991.
‘‘To be honest I think they just wanted it a bit more. They hadn’t won it in 22 years,’’ Lloyd said.
‘‘We were up by five goals at one point so that was a bit disappointing.’’
Lloyd, who kicked 110 goals for the Rams in 2010, started in the forward pocket and rotated off half forward.
With the WAFL missing five shots in a row early on, the VFL had shot out to a 22-point lead by quarter time.
The Victorians maintained their momentum in the second term, in which Lloyd nailed two goals to give his side a 25-point buffer at the long break.
The second half was a different story for the VFL, which kicked two of the first three goals to lead by 31 points.
After that, the Black Swans turned the game on its head, booting the next four goals to get within six points.
A late goal saw Victoria still in the lead by 14 points at three-quarter time, with Lloyd adding another two majors in the third term.
The WAFL kicked five goals to none in the last quarter, though, to run out 17.16 (118) to 15.11 (101) winners.
Chris Cain was named the Frank Johnson medallist for the VFL with 32 disposals, while other better players were backmen Marcus Marigliani and Evan Panozza, Lloyd up forward and Myles Sewell, who collected 27 disposals.
Having impressed on the big stage, Lloyd is tipped to be on the AFL draft horizon later this year.
Essendon has been an admirer of Frankston talent in recent times with Michael Hibberd, Mark Baguley and Dylan Van Unen currently at the club.
‘‘He’s a small forward but he plays fairly tall so he can take a good grab and he’s good on the ground,’’ Frankston coach Simon Goosey, who is also a part-time scout for Essendon, said of Lloyd.
‘‘He’s coming along really well.’’
Lloyd, who played in the Rams’ 2011 flag, has been named in the Dolphins’ best in three out of five games. He has kicked 11 goals, including a bag of four against North Ballarat, and is averaging 15 possessions and seven marks per game.
http://www.mmg.com.au/local-sport/deniliquin/deniliquin-s-sam-lloyd-shines-for-vfl-in-state-match-1.49468
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
I dont get it either. Why National draft for this guy? Psd or Rookie
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Slamming Sam :clapping
Will be a 300+ game player
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
I dont get it either. Why National draft for this guy? Psd or Rookie
Because we rated him a better prospect than the left over kids in a shallow draft?
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
FFS claw. I can't follow you. We pick kids and you say late picks hide gems that play in other leagues such as state leagues. We pick bigger bodied older guys and you ask why we didn't pick skinny kids.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND SON!!!!!!
hey hey hey im not against getting gordon or lloyd. in fact im happy we have given them a go. but i am concerned about only taking 1 18 yr old. if you think the talent is there you still take the kids geez jon marsh please. at pick 50.
yes we took a couple of state leaguers and thats great but when you only have picks 12 50 and 66 with pick 28 already gone on a 26 yr old id say a bit of balance is the way to go and pick 50 probably should have gone on a kid.
thing is im all for state league recruits but not at any cost. all im saying is i think we needed to balance it out a bit. i dont think any other club took a mature player after pick 50 with a live pick. this suggests to me we could well have taken a kid at 50 and still got gordon and lloyd with just a small amount of tinkering.
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Perhaps they'll gop for 3 18 y/o's in the rookie draft for balance - we'll see
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surely this bloke would have been available to us as a rookie. or why not keep petterd as a rookie take him and have the extra pick geez there were some promising kids available late.. dunno i still get the feeling we are continually reaching for players rather than staying patient.
I dont get it either. Why National draft for this guy? Psd or Rookie
Because we rated him a better prospect than the left over kids in a shallow draft?
well my opinion is i think we could have the best of both worlds. there was kids there worth taking just ask the clubs who used live picks on kids after pick 50.
imo the whole trade and now nd period leaves a lot to be desired. im certain we could have donre it better.
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But was there talented 18 years old @ 50 ?
Why were they overlooked 49 times
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But was there talented 18 years old @ 50 ?
Why were they overlooked 49 times
other clubs obviously thought so. why players are overlooked well none of us are privvy to that info. jonathon marsh would be the outstanding athlete of the draft imo and he had a great u18championship showing he can match it against the best kids in the land. he didnt get over looked because of talent it had to be something else.
if anyone tells me a player like marsh is not worth taking a punt on with pick 50 or 66 then you will never ever take a punt. there were kids available who met some pretty big needs of our club but we chose to ignore them.
imo we took some mature players instead and while im happy to have em i think we took em too early.
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But was there talented 18 years old @ 50 ?
Why were they overlooked 49 times
other clubs obviously thought so. why players are overlooked well none of us are privvy to that info. jonathon marsh would be the outstanding athlete of the draft imo and he had a great u18championship showing he can match it against the best kids in the land. he didnt get over looked because of talent it had to be something else.
if anyone tells me a player like marsh is not worth taking a punt on with pick 50 or 66 then you will never ever take a punt. there were kids available who met some pretty big needs of our club but we chose to ignore them.
imo we took some mature players instead and while im happy to have em i think we took em too early.
yeah pies couldn't believe he was available so changed their minds and took the extra pick at 77 or whatever it was. Better to do that than promise rookies like Pettard he's being elevated. Just wait you never know who will slide.
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Looks stoked
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1460295_10152375170949838_1185105568_n.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lloyd-pick-66.1041589/#post-31020368
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Already smashing the tinnies down. :lol
Massive upgrade on King IMO. Will be like Jamie Elliot. Would people trade pick 66 for a bigger Jamie Elliot? X-factor in spades and hasn't had the coaching and full-time environment up until this year. Huge scope. Was really hoping we'd get him here thinking he'd probably be best available on my rankings and also fills a need.
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With proper coaching and good facilities hopefully turns out to be an inspired choice.
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RECRUITED AS A FORWARD!!!!!!
Watch the RFC try to turn him into a backman and stuff him up.. :banghead
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Lol wat :lol
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Lol wat :lol
Well honestly TM, if posters here say it's part of his development to learn defensive tactics I will spew! Put him in the forward line ad stuffing develop him there..
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
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RECRUITED AS A FORWARD!!!!!!
Watch the RFC try to turn him into a backman and stuff him up.. :banghead
:lol :thumbsup
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Brett Burton :clapping
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
That would be Plapp
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
That would be Plapp
Big Plappy. VFL star. :clapping
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
Nathan Brown.
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
Nathan Brown.
From the forgotten years. :whistle
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Looks stoked
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1460295_10152375170949838_1185105568_n.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lloyd-pick-66.1041589/#post-31020368
which one is he? ::)
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The middle one
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Looks like Christian salem
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
Nathan Brown.
From the forgotten years. :whistle
I can't remember those years! :whistle
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
Nathan Brown.
From the forgotten years. :whistle
I can't remember those years! :whistle
Richmond Tigers est.2010
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Just watched his clips and looked like a human highlight reel, pretty canny selection Lloydy ....can already see him being a real surprise packet :shh
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I like this pick. Get him afl match fit and throw him out there. Just seems to know where to go, and where to put the ball and tackles hard.
Correct. Don't even remember the last good small forward we had.
Nathan Brown.
From the forgotten years. :whistle
I can't remember those years! :whistle
Richmond FC. Died 1982. Richmond Tigers resurrected 2010
EFA
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Which one is he in the pic? I don't think it's the middle one cos he's not wearing tigers gear.
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The guy. W the tinny
U spasticcs
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The welsh lookin one you tag nuts
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Frankston VFL forward Sam Lloyd has landed at Richmond
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
November 22, 2013 5:43PM
NEW Richmond livewire forward Sam Lloyd has played at more clubs in four years than many players grace in a lifetime.
His amazing journey to the AFL culminated in the Tigers taking him at pick 66 on Thursday, a decision which saw his living room erupt with joy.
"It was just a blur,' he said yesterday. "When my name was called out the room just erupted. Everyone was hugging, my parents were crying, and my girlfriend was crying. I wish I had filmed it."
Lloyd, 23, has kicked 110 goals with the Deniliquin Rams, played at VFL clubs Bendigo and Frankston, represented the VFL, trained with the Geelong Falcons, and played suburban football with Mount Eliza.
The versatile forward has been on Richmond's radar for two years and is part of a trio of forwards chosen by the Tigers to bolster their attacking set-up.
He made the Geelong Falcons squad as a junior while at Geelong Grammar but a 10-week ankle injury meant he never played a game.
He thought his AFL dream was over.
"I was from Deniliquin initially and had a lot of mates there still and so I travelled back there for two years and won a flag there," Lloyd said.
"Then a mate from uni got me to come down to Mount Eliza. I got a call from Essendon towards the end of the season and they wanted me to play a few games for the Bendigo Bombers. I decided I could play at that level if I could get fit and went to Frankston, and the rest is history.
"Going to the AFL was a million miles away, but as I played that VFL state game (kicking four goals) I thought, 'Hang on, I have a chance here', and then I went to the draft camp, and even last night I didn't expect to get drafted, but it happened."
Richmond says Lloyd can do it all as a forward, with great hands, crumbing nous, and the ability play play as a mark-and-lead forward too.
"I was always a midfield/forward but I like to take a grab, I like to take the game on," he said.
"I love a goal and I love to crumb the ball. I know I need to keep working on my forward pressure if I want to play."
He is yet to ponder what it would be like to play alongside the likes of Jack Riewoldt, but says Richmond's stars have already been in contact.
"I haven't even considered that, I don't even think all of this is real yet," he said.
"The boys are awesome. I have started to get texts from Riewoldt and Chris Newman and the Cotch (Trent Cotchin). It's just surreal."
Read more: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/frankston-vfl-forward-sam-lloyd-has-landed-at-richmond/story-fni5f22o-1226766321215#ixzz2lNYGZPh6
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The welsh lookin one you tag nuts
yep the weirdo in the middle
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perfect replacement for kingy
got 7-8 years in him
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Was very impressed with this kid's highlight vid.
Looks like a strong mark, aerial specialist, and was jagging goals from bloody everywhere. Good tackling too.
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Was very impressed with this kid's highlight vid.
Looks like a strong mark, aerial specialist, and was jagging goals from bloody everywhere. Good tackling too.
All good traits. But FFS rookie draft :banghead :banghead
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Serious
When shytr hits the fans who's guns fight?
I hope ling king never retire
All wrll and good being talented
We Need guys with nuts
God bless king
She tippet decked morris
And no one flew the flag
One of darkest momentd in history of this club
- to jog zero memory. Morris, arguably the only bloke with gonads. Was body slammed by tippet almost with s broken spine. A d his team mates stood around like it was a tea party. Poor lack of chacter. His time I ever wish we hsf 22 Jake kings
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Im not convinced this guy was the best pick available - but I hope I'm wrong
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Serious
When shytr hits the fans who's guns fight?
I hope ling king never retire
All wrll and good being talented
We Need guys with nuts
God bless king
She tippet decked morris
And no one flew the flag
One of darkest momentd in history of this club
- to jog zero memory. Morris, arguably the only bloke with gonads. Was body slammed by tippet almost with s broken spine. A d his team mates stood around like it was a tea party. Poor lack of chacter. His time I ever wish we hsf 22 Jake kings
I thought it was Tex Walker who body slammed Morris. Get your facts right sir.
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Well he's a big enough boy, let's hope he performs accordingly!
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Needs to play from round 3 or it's a fail
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Well he's a big enough boy, let's hope he performs accordingly!
So was Nahas but it didn't get him far ....... ;D
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Serious
When shytr hits the fans who's guns fight?
I hope ling king never retire
All wrll and good being talented
We Need guys with nuts
God bless king
She tippet decked morris
And no one flew the flag
One of darkest momentd in history of this club
- to jog zero memory. Morris, arguably the only bloke with gonads. Was body slammed by tippet almost with s broken spine. A d his team mates stood around like it was a tea party. Poor lack of chacter. His time I ever wish we hsf 22 Jake kings
I thought it was Tex Walker who body slammed Morris. Get your facts right sir.
My mistake
I was too horrified to take accurate notes
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Needs to play from round 3 or it's a fail
Absolutely Chucky. Round 3 is a must win game too! ;D
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Needs to play from round 3 or it's a fail
Absolutely Chucky. Round 3 is a must win game too! ;D
Absolnofuggnexcusesutely
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From Deniliquin to Dolphins, Sam Lloyd heads to Richmond
Herald-Sun
November 25, 2013 2:12PM
IT'S been an amazing journey, and Sam Lloyd has earned his stripes.
The boy from Deniliquin last Thursday achieved something he once thought was out of his reach - being drafted into the AFL.
Richmond snapped him up with pick 66.
"I came from 'Deni' (Deniliquin), went to Mt Eliza, then Frankston and now I'm here at Richmond. It hasn't sunk in,'' Lloyd said last Friday.
"The whole world has flipped upside down for me.''
The day after he became a Tiger, Lloyd, 23, went to the house of Mt Eliza footballer Jack Egan, to say thanks.
Egan was the man who convinced Lloyd to play at Mt Eliza, thus opening doors for him. The pair were at uni together.
"I was getting a bit over the travel (to Deniliquin) so I needed a club around Melbourne and he said come down and play at Mt Eliza, so I did,'' Lloyd said.
"I can thank Jack. He's taking all the credit … I think he's getting a bigger head than I am,'' he laughed.
Lloyd was a star with the Deniliquin Rams but he never seriously thought he'd make it to the AFL.
"I'd given up. I never thought I was good enough,'' he said. "My coach got the ball rolling from Deni and rang someone and they said come in for a meeting and I played a few games at Bendigo Bombers.''
A dazzling season at Mt Eliza was followed by a break-out year in the VFL with the Frankston Dolphins.
Simon Goosey, Frankston's coach, was thrilled to see him get an opportunity.
"I'm rapt for him,'' Goosey said.
"This time last year we had a good chat. He had to lose five kilos off his back side. He worked as hard as anyone I've seen. Ability alone doesn't get you there but he's got that work ethic that's required. He'll do really well.''
Lloyd said: "When I decided to have a crack and get fairdinkum, I didn't even think about getting drafted. I just wanted to play VFL. I got fitter and then you start playing good games and you just don't know what's going to happen.
"If I had any advice for kids who think they've got the ability…definitely give it a crack because you never know what could happen. It was a million miles away for me a year and a half ago.''
http://www.news.com.au/national/from-deniliquin-to-dolphins-sam-lloyd-heads-to-richmond/story-e6frfkp9-1226767906762
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Sam Lloyd – Frankston / 180cm / 83kg / ‘90
23yo who has had a really good season as a small fwd and was prominent in the state game which I think will bode well for him. He could walk into a senior side and plays a similar game to Jamie Elliott insomuch as he can lead up, crumb and has the agility to be a very good 1:1 player. Has a burst of speed and is competitive and will give tackle pressure and defensive run. His kicking is very good and his hands are ‘sure’.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dog-2013-phantom-draft.1039188/
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VIDEO: Introducing Sam Lloyd ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-26/introducing-sam-lloyd
Summary
* It was good to get down here and meet all the boys and all the coaches. I was a bit nervous at the start but once you get down here and finally get out on the ground and have a kick around with all the boys, the nerves start to settle and you realise everyone’s a good bloke and there to help you. So it’s been a good couple of days. Playing at different clubs and different levels of footy has helped make it easier to walk into a club and meet guys. You know what to expect.
* I’d had a few meetings and had been to the draft camp. But going on history, the AFL clubs take us older blokes more as rookies. When it happened it was just a great feeling and I couldn’t ask to be down at a better club.
* I like a goal and I like to take a mark but I also like to crumb. Hopefully I can add a bit of excitement and then work on stuff like my forward pressure so I can help the team. I just want to get together a full pre-season, get amongst the boys and then, look, I’d love to pinch a game and hopefully play a lot of games. You set your sights on that first game and if I can get a good pre-season and get a lot of work done out on the track then who knows. That’s the plan and hopefully I can just play my bit for the Tigers whatever the coaches want me to do and I can get there.
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VIDEO: Introducing Sam Lloyd ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-26/introducing-sam-lloyd
Summary
* It was good to get down here and meet all the boys and all the coaches. I was a bit nervous at the start but once you get down here and finally get out on the ground and have a kick around with all the boys, the nerves start to settle and you realise everyone’s a good bloke and there to help you. So it’s been a good couple of days. Playing at different clubs and different levels of footy has helped make it easier to walk into a club and meet guys. You know what to expect.
* I’d had a few meetings and had been to the draft camp. But going on history, the AFL clubs take us older blokes more as rookies. When it happened it was just a great feeling and I couldn’t ask to be down at a better club.
* I like a goal and I like to take a mark but I also like to crumb. Hopefully I can add a bit of excitement and then work on stuff like my forward pressure so I can help the team. I just want to get together a full pre-season, get amongst the boys and then, look, I’d love to pinch a game and hopefully play a lot of games. You set your sights on that first game and if I can get a good pre-season and get a lot of work done out on the track then who knows. That’s the plan and hopefully I can just play my bit for the Tigers whatever the coaches want me to do and I can get there.
geez even the mature players realise where they are taken normally. not the rfc though.
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VIDEO: Introducing Sam Lloyd ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-26/introducing-sam-lloyd
Summary
* It was good to get down here and meet all the boys and all the coaches. I was a bit nervous at the start but once you get down here and finally get out on the ground and have a kick around with all the boys, the nerves start to settle and you realise everyone’s a good bloke and there to help you. So it’s been a good couple of days. Playing at different clubs and different levels of footy has helped make it easier to walk into a club and meet guys. You know what to expect.
* I’d had a few meetings and had been to the draft camp. But going on history, the AFL clubs take us older blokes more as rookies. When it happened it was just a great feeling and I couldn’t ask to be down at a better club.
* I like a goal and I like to take a mark but I also like to crumb. Hopefully I can add a bit of excitement and then work on stuff like my forward pressure so I can help the team. I just want to get together a full pre-season, get amongst the boys and then, look, I’d love to pinch a game and hopefully play a lot of games. You set your sights on that first game and if I can get a good pre-season and get a lot of work done out on the track then who knows. That’s the plan and hopefully I can just play my bit for the Tigers whatever the coaches want me to do and I can get there.
geez even the mature players realise where they are taken normally. not the rfc though.
They are topping up mate
Get on board
Our list should of all ready spaghetti to roll - anything this draft was a bonus, really. Vladimir is the cherry on top.
They need to have a proper crank before lids hangs up the boots
I understand the principal of continuously injecting youth, but we been building since 04.
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VIDEO: Introducing Sam Lloyd ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-26/introducing-sam-lloyd
Summary
* It was good to get down here and meet all the boys and all the coaches. I was a bit nervous at the start but once you get down here and finally get out on the ground and have a kick around with all the boys, the nerves start to settle and you realise everyone’s a good bloke and there to help you. So it’s been a good couple of days. Playing at different clubs and different levels of footy has helped make it easier to walk into a club and meet guys. You know what to expect.
* I’d had a few meetings and had been to the draft camp. But going on history, the AFL clubs take us older blokes more as rookies. When it happened it was just a great feeling and I couldn’t ask to be down at a better club.
* I like a goal and I like to take a mark but I also like to crumb. Hopefully I can add a bit of excitement and then work on stuff like my forward pressure so I can help the team. I just want to get together a full pre-season, get amongst the boys and then, look, I’d love to pinch a game and hopefully play a lot of games. You set your sights on that first game and if I can get a good pre-season and get a lot of work done out on the track then who knows. That’s the plan and hopefully I can just play my bit for the Tigers whatever the coaches want me to do and I can get there.
geez even the mature players realise where they are taken normally. not the rfc though.
They are topping up mate
Get on board
Our list should of all ready spaghetti to roll - anything this draft was a bonus, really. Vladimir is the cherry on top.
They need to have a proper crank before lids hangs up the boots
I understand the principal of continuously injecting youth, but we been building since 04.
topping up, is that what you call it? geez i hope it works. to top up you first have to have a bloody good base. when ypur in the middle of the pack topping up with mediopcrity useing pick 50 usually comes back to bite.
its funny im accused of all sorts of things by many different peopple at different times but the one thing i am is consistent. you always inject youth in a nd system it can never be a process that is allowed to lapse. ah the word processes seems its something for most richmond people that is a temporary thing seems its the same for the club.
so 3 yrs of decent process is enough, we will win the flag by how do you put it ah topping up.
give me a break.
oh and lets not lose sight of the post above. as i said even the players taken are saying they expected to be taken later. but hey what im saying is apparently nonsense every club was going to pick gordon and lloydy up after picks 50 and 66.
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Maybe the base is there?
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Maybe the base is there?
thats the difference between me and most others. im certain we havent built anything that is sustainable.hence my stance on most things richmond.
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Maybe the base is there?
Don't forget Craw has a time machine, he's already been to the future :shh
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Maybe the base is there?
Don't forget Craw has a time machine, he's already been to the future :shh
it aint hard louigi, you only need learn from past mistakes. i dont need a time machine it continues to happen in my life time. when was the last flag son?????????
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Maybe the base is there?
Don't forget Craw has a time machine, he's already been to the future :shh
it aint hard louigi, you only need learn from past mistakes. i dont need a time machine it continues to happen in my life time. when was the last flag son?????????
2015.......wait Wot???
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Maybe the base is there?
thats the difference between me and most others. im certain we havent built anything that is sustainable.hence my stance on most things richmond.
Lennon
Arnot
Ellis
Vlastuin
McIntosh
McDonough
Conca
Martin
Cotchin
Morris
Deledio
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McBean
Grimes
Rance
Vickery
Riewoldt
Maric
etc.
pretty much sustainable as its going to get
dont think drafting an 18 year old @ 66 was going to make much of a difference either way
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To be totally honest it's just the vibe of the thing. :banghead :banghead
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Topping up. stuffing hell, the kids are early 20's, their not bloody 30. Plenty of development in them and mature enough in body to make an impact quickly.
Gordon has spent time in the AFL system, knows what it is about, has something to proove and wont take it for granted.
Lloyd is a fresh talent who's worked himself up from the lower leagues and earned a chance. At pick 66, or whatever it was, in a shallow draft, I can't see too much wrong with the selection.
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Why the stuff am I bothering to write this?
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You crazy man. :lol
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Why the stuff am I bothering to write this?
:lol
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Topping up. stuffing hell, the kids are early 20's, their not bloody 30. Plenty of development in them and mature enough in body to make an impact quickly.
Gordon has spent time in the AFL system, knows what it is about, has something to proove and wont take it for granted.
Lloyd is a fresh talent who's worked himself up from the lower leagues and earned a chance. At pick 66, or whatever it was, in a shallow draft, I can't see too much wrong with the selection.
Miles. Hampson. Gordon, Lloyd, Banfield, Thomas
Six 'mature' players plus Vlamir.
1/7 bottom age, ie. first time available for the draft. Yeah good point its not 'topping up' ;D
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Why the stuff am I bothering to write this?
I can only assume because you require me to highlight the error of your ways.
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Sam Lloyd - Richmond Tigers, AFL
Mature age Richmond recruit, Sam Lloyd, caught up with Chrisso & McGuane for a chat, as he prepares to play his first game for the Tigers on Friday. We learn more about last year's 66th draft pick, drafted from Frankston.
AUDIO: http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1392246721.mp3
Summary
* It is a great opportunity. It’s been a long preseason but short at the same time. I was just absolutely rapt to get down there and hit the track. I’m very lucky to be at the Tigers. It’s just a thrill.
* The Tigers have a really good culture and they’ve made it really easy for me to come in. All of the older guys are really good. Jack Riewoldt, being a forward line player as well, I’m getting along with him really well. He’s been a really good teacher for me.
* Playing AFL football was always a dream but I didn’t think I was ever good enough. Then when I kept going up and up a level in football, especially last year playing the VFL state game, I thought - 'hang on, I’m a chance here, I can make it'. I think I developed the hope a bit later than most
* I’ve been training as a forward down at the Tigers but I played a lot of midfield at lower levels. I want to develop my fitness further in coming years and maybe push up to a midfield position or even a running half-forward.
* I knew coming in that I had to work on my defensive pressure. I think it’s improved but I still have a bit of work to go there. It’s definitely a massive part of your game. If you want to go further, you have to have both attributes of kicking goals and defensive pressure. I certainly won’t get a game if I don’t have my defensive pressure up, that’s for sure.
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Sam Lloyd - Richmond Tigers, AFL
* I knew coming in that I had to work on my defensive pressure. I think it’s improved but I still have a bit of work to go there. It’s definitely a massive part of your game. If you want to go further, you have to have both attributes of kicking goals and defensive pressure. I certainly won’t get a game if I don’t have my defensive pressure up, that’s for sure.
Its the same message that you keep hearing come out of our club from any player in any position. Great to hear :thumbsup
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Lloyd’s loving it
richmondfc.com.au
February 27, 2014
Richmond’s mature-age recruit Sam Lloyd is thriving throughout his first pre-season at the game’s highest level.
“I’ve slimmed down a bit, probably because of the fact of training pretty much every day on a regular basis, either in the gym or out on the track,” Lloyd told ‘Sportsday’.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-02-27/lloyds-loving-it
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Chris Newman is not a forward nor a midfielder. He is a half back flanker who has been surpassed by others in that position.
Time to see what Sam Lloyd was drafted to do.
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Chris Newman is not a forward nor a midfielder. He is a half back flanker who has been surpassed by others in that position.
Time to see what Sam Lloyd was drafted to do.
Correct. Sydney can drop Ryan O'Keefe and we have to try find a spot for old man Newman.
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Chris Newman is not a forward nor a midfielder. He is a half back flanker who has been surpassed by others in that position.
Time to see what Sam Lloyd was drafted to do.
Correct. Sydney can drop Ryan O'Keefe and we have to try find a spot for old man Newman.
Sydney's decision as bad as ours
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paul chapman anybody.
we talk up lloyd and others we got. but we couldnt even talk to chappy.
32 yo newman or 32 yr old chapman is another way to look at it. we dont have a sml /med fwd/mid of chapmans quality.in fact we are certainly better off finding out about ohanlon,mcdonough, banfield, s edwards, king, gordon, playing knights lennon or even petterd as a forward rather than newman.all are potentially better forwrds than newman in fact forget about potential what has newman ever done as a forward. they are all better options in the role.
if newy cant play back or in the midfield he should not be playing at all. he is most certainly atm taking games and development time off others.
the club and hardwick have had it easy in what decisions they have had to make on players in fact theres hardly been a hard decision to make. . time to do the right thing damien.if you cant make the hard choices you should not be there.
i still see this club doing some of the same things that its done for the past 30 yrs.
part of becoming succesful is knowing exactly where your list can take you. seems to me we continue to kid ourselves and we let silly things like sentiment rule our decisions.
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Cool
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Take away the goals and what's left?
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Take away the goals and what's left?
Premierships? :shh
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And Norm
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*From this game
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Richmond has selected mature-age forward Sam Lloyd to make his AFL debut in Friday night’s blockbuster against Collingwood at the MCG.
Lloyd was the Tigers’ third selection (No. 66 overall) in last November’s National Draft.
He attracted the attention of the Tiger talent scouts during an impressive season at VFL level with Frankston in 2013, which also saw him kick four goals for a combined VFL team in a state match against the WAFL.
The 24-year-old is renowned for his ability to win one-on-one contests, both in the air and at ground level, as well as his clever goal sense.
He kicked more than 100 goals in a season while playing for country club the Deniliquin Rams as a 20-year-old in 2010.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-10/lloyd-to-debut
Good luck to Lloydy in his AFL debut :clapping.
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I like what I have seen of this kid. He moves well, has good hands and looks like a decent kick. And everything points to him improving the higher the standard of footy he plays. Really looking forward to seeing him play. He had better not be the sub!!
Good luck Tiger.
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I like what I have seen of this kid. He moves well, has good hands and looks like a decent kick. And everything points to him improving the higher the standard of footy he plays. Really looking forward to seeing him play. He had better not be the sub!!
Good luck Tiger.
appears to be in the starting 18 going by the team sheet
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I like what I have seen of this kid. He moves well, has good hands and looks like a decent kick. And everything points to him improving the higher the standard of footy he plays. Really looking forward to seeing him play. He had better not be the sub!!
Good luck Tiger.
In other words BT, moves like a gazelle, hands like a steel trap and a hoof like an angry mule....whoa, Francis Jackson take a bow!
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dud, delist. :cheers ;D
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He doesn't have to do much to improve on what we had.
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Well done Lloydy, now go get em tiger, can play a bit this kid, Good luck :clapping
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He doesn't have to do much to improve on what we had.
Yeh. He only has to apply one tackle and he would have done more than what 90% of the team has in the first three weeks!
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:lol if he gets a kick its a bonus.
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He doesn't have to do much to improve on what we had.
aint that the truth.
good luck to him a few reckon he can play i hope they are right. for sure we have to see what he can offer.
while im not happy about taking just one kid i am happy we gave some well performed state leaguers a go. at 24 like gordon he should be able to make a decent contribution now. he surely cant be worse than the myriad of dud small forwards we have had over recent yrs.
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Lloyd aims to do his bit
richmondfc.com.au
April 11, 2014
The brief delivered to him by the Tiger coaches for Friday night is simple . . .
“Tackle pressure, be dangerous around the goals, and just play my role. Talk to the boys like ‘Kingy’ (Jake King) and ‘Shedda’ (Shane Edwards), who play in that (small forward) role, and just do my bit,” Lloyd said.
“It’ll be good finally doing the warm-up, then going out there and actually running out on to the ground and playing the game . . . looking forward to it.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-11/lloyd-aims-to-do-his-bit
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Thought this kid looked great.
Effort was really there. You could see he doesn't want to lose his spot.
Will play next week for sure.
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He was our bloody standout. Bravo.
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Highlights of Lloyd's debut ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-11/round-4-lloyds-debut
Lloyd lights up the MCG
No, not that Lloyd. Sam Lloyd's excellent debut came in trying circumstances at the MCG on Friday night. At stages, the first-gamer looked like Richmond's only dangerous option in attack. The 24-year-old kicked three goals and gathered 22 possessions in an impressive display. His marking prowess belied someone of his 180cm stature and his finishing was spot on, the Deniliquin/Frankston Bombers product nailing all three of his opportunities in front of goal. The Tigers have found one in Lloyd, who they secured with pick No. 66 in last year's NAB AFL Draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-11/talking-points-richmond-v-collingwood
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We will fix that up once he is doctrined into the RFC pootness
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
How promising they look before tigeritis destroys there nervous system.
It reminds me of Marty McGrath.
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
How promising they look before tigeritis destroys there nervous system.
It reminds me of Marty McGrath.
:lol :lol
I just said this in another thread about Batch. Great first year then the RFC anti-development truck comes in. Martin first 2 years. The list goes on.
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
How promising they look before tigeritis destroys there nervous system.
It reminds me of Marty McGrath.
It's called first game euphoria.
Then 2nd game potential.
Third game ability.
Fourth game inexperience.
Then fifth game heartbreak the moment you realise this kids ability as a decent footballer is gone forever.
The simple thing to delay the onset of tigeritis is to do the opposite of what the coach says and what the majority of other players are doing. Very contagious ailment and one which heralds the onset of footy dementia also another tigeritis sub category where all principles of basic football skills are forgotten and a player masquerades on the ground as slow drunk overweight past it over the hill former bush footy star.
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
How promising they look before tigeritis destroys there nervous system.
It reminds me of Marty McGrath.
:lol :lol
I just said this in another thread about Batch. Great first year then the RFC anti-development truck comes in. Martin first 2 years. The list goes on.
Cotch hasn't played a decent standout minus dinky kick malakia game since round 22 2012.
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He'll be just another skata flanker in a few weeks.
The RFC deprogramming process is in full swing.
How promising they look before tigeritis destroys there nervous system.
It reminds me of Marty McGrath.
It's called first game euphoria.
Then 2nd game potential.
Third game ability.
Fourth game inexperience.
Then fifth game heartbreak the moment you realise this kids ability as a decent footballer is gone forever.
The simple thing to delay the onset of tigeritis is to do the opposite of what the coach says and what the majority of other players are doing. Very contagious ailment and one which heralds the onset of footy dementia also another tigeritis sub category where all principles of basic football skills are forgotten and a player masquerades on the ground as slow drunk overweight past it over the hill former bush footy star.
:clapping
Yes it's the cycle of Skata
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Well done young fella....great debut...... :cheers
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How did he go chasing down his opponent when they had the ball? I see from the stats that he had 5 tackles. I think it was Fasolo who was picking him up? Fasolo had 10 uncontested possessions.
Maybe Sam needs to spend some time in the backline to improve his defensive skills? :angel
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:lol pay that
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5 tackles a year gets Grigg a new contract. :shh
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5 tackles a year gets Grigg a new contract. :shh
I think it's down to one tackle a year... :whistle
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Best tiger debut since R.Roberts :clapping
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Best tiger debut since R.Roberts :clapping
Hope he doesn't mimic Relton's diet or all the weight he lost in the preseason would be wasted. :pray
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Best tiger debut since R.Roberts :clapping
Hope he doesn't mimic Relton's diet or all the weight he lost in the preseason would be wasted. :pray
The titties would return!
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Has peaked, we need to trade while he has currency
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pretty decent debut good on the bloke. you see it wasnt hard to replace jake king.
plenty more state league players out there who deserve a crack at it as well.
so we may have found a player time will tell. the thing is lloyd is 24 where is the younger version in development.
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My man Sam Lloyd is the perfect example if you give a young guy a go, he will at least give his all. It's time to get rid of the pretenders and go with the young hungry types. Want to see McBean, McIntosh, Lennon and Elton soon.
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This is what disgusts me the most, the guy as probably a bit of a battler showed our senior guys up for, well in one case what a ballerina he is....
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He asked Kingy and Shed for advice on how to play the small fwd role :clapping
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He asked Kingy and Shed for advice on how to play the small fwd role :clapping
Kingy I can understand, I would do exactly the opposite of what Shed does. :help
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Best tiger debut since R.Roberts :clapping
Plappy kicked 5 on debut.
:cheers
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Best tiger debut since R.Roberts :clapping
Plappy kicked 5 on debut.
:cheers
So did Marty McGrath. :thumbsup
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Looks like a good find. :thumbsup
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Sam Lloyd's journey from the Rams to Richmond
Peter Hanlon
The Age
April 17, 2014
Sam Lloyd's parents took a step back this week, retreating to Barwon Heads to draw breath. They headed home to Deniliquin on Wednesday - Bill on his motorbike, Prue in the car, along a road they've travelled so many times Bill admits "we've worn out a lot of vehicles".
<>The journey might have worn out their son, too, but Sam has become very good at making every sign post in his football life a winner. Last Friday night, in front of about 150 proud-as-punch "Deni" folk at the MCG (and 62,000 or so others), he finally reached his dream destination.
"Sam's always achieved what he wants; he's pretty determined," Bill says, not overly surprised that his son became an AFL footballer - and Richmond's best player on debut at that - aged 24. Endangering familial harmony, Prue is having none of that.
"It was definitely a surprise to us - we never, ever thought this would happen, and I don't think Sam did either." They concur on their second son's ability to meet every challenge put before him once he's committed himself to the task, a quality that underpins football's latest mature-aged fairytale.
His studies at Geelong Grammar were a case in point. "He'd never studied, then he put his mind to it that 'this is the score I need', and he blew everyone away."
Now, he is one subject away from completing a construction management degree at RMIT, although his mother teases that his motivation stems from wanting to get the upper hand on his builder brother Jack, two year's Sam's senior and to whom he is close. "He probably just wants to boss the older brother around, have the builder working for him."
His AFL apprenticeship was more drawn out than his studies. Having been in the Geelong Falcons squad but denied a game by an ankle injury, Lloyd travelled back and forth from Melbourne with Jack and another mate while playing three seasons for Deniliquin, kicking 110 goals as a 20-year-old in 2010 and another 65 playing mainly on the ball in a premiership season the next year.
Gary Parsons, who coached the club to five flags in nine years, cherished having a player of "uncanny ability" who was a nightmare for opposition sides to match-up on. "You put a little bloke on him and he sits on your head, put a big bloke on him and he's too good on the ground," Parsons says.
The next three years took in Mt Eliza, Bendigo Bombers and Frankston, stepping stones that became progressively more slippery yet were traversed with aplomb. Prue Lloyd thinks her son's Deni ton put him on the radar; "they followed him a bit, and he just kept playing footy". The Lloyds have never pressured Jack, Sam and Jane. For their middle child - "a bit of a menace, a bit of a character" - one thing just led to another.
Bill Lloyd has a rugby background from time spent in Sydney and country NSW, worked in swimming pool distribution for many years, and on the back of the millennium drought developed a device for cleansing channel or dam water to spare people on the land from buying drinking water. The "Floculator" worked well, but he didn't bother having it patented.
Now he has a local storage business, does clay target shooting for sport, and performs what he calls "my community service" by collecting scrap metal that forms a major fundraising plank each season for the Deniliquin Rams footy club. "I think it's a great thing to support kids' sport, keep them away from drugs and the like."
Prue is ladies' captain at the golf club, and with competition on Thursdays and Saturdays and that well-worn three-and-a-half hour drive to Melbourne whenever Richmond's fixture accommodates, is girding herself for a busy year. "We'll just take it as it comes ... we've got our lives."
They won't make it to Brisbane on Thursday night, but might join those proud townspeople at the footy club where everyone will convene after training to have a meal and cheer on the first local to make the AFL scene since Leo Barry.
Their son's life has changed in a dramatically good way, but Parsons says to see him at a local wedding recently was to find the same down-to-earth, popular young bloke who not so long ago was a Ram, and by his own estimation "a million miles" from being a Tiger.
"You wouldn't have known he was playing AFL," says Parsons, whose 17-year-old daughter told Lloyd not to forget her if he gets invited to the Brownlow.
Now that he's taken the last step on football's varied pathway, his old coach thinks a leap of another kind isn't beyond him. Speaking to Richmond's website this week, Lloyd presented as a humble rookie with much to learn, especially where applying forward pressure - not such a fundamental when you're kicking bags of goals in the bush - is concerned.
Parsons has no doubt he'll meet that challenge, too, and could even become the latest in a long line of Richmond cult figures.
"We've seen him take some unbelievable marks up here. I said to someone the other day, I think he'll take mark of the year before the season's out. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of him yet."
His mother noted her son's unease in the season's early rounds, sensed that he just needed to get a game to settle the flutter. This week she spoke to "a different person, he was so much more relaxed".
Not that he's really any different. "He won't change," Prue Lloyd says. "He won't be allowed to anyway."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/sam-lloyds-journey-from-the-rams-to-richmond-20140416-zqvm9.html
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We have found a player here. Was excellent again before getting hurt.
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Agree very good pick up. Much prefer this type of drafting of late bloomers rather than failed delisted mid 20s.
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How was he hurt? Didn't see...
Better than King any day of the week.
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Smart
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How was he hurt? Didn't see...
Better than King any day of the week.
His head hit the back of Adcock's
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What did we all think of Lloyd's game? 12 possies, 5 marks, 3 In50s, 4 tackles and 3 goals.
Goal 1: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-04/round-7-lloyd-from-the-boundary
Goal 2: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-05-04/round-7-lloyd-picks-up-the-crumbs
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only plays good against top 4 sides. dud delist
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Pretty good game. Needs to get involved more but he knows where the stix are and we need that.
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Thought he was pretty good. Looked a bit short of a gallop when chasing towards the end of the game but made the most of his attacking opportunities.
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a foot soldier who is probably the best of his type we have atm. we do need to look for more class and consistency.
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Could do with some more pace, strength, endurance etc.
But you can't argue with his ability to find the goals...
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Very dangerous with the ball in his hands in front of goal. Just get him a bit of space and he'll nail it every time. Apart from that he's average. He's best 22 fp right now though
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He will get fitter. Can't deny his class. If we can draft him a speedy partner in crime for next year then we will look far more dangerous.
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He's ordinary, but he's a better class of "ordinary". Still the kind of player I worry that we'll be "satisfied" with and won't look to upgrade upon in a few years but looks to be at least a step in the right direction at this early stage.
....still would've preferred we drafted Byrne-Jones & Marsh with the picks we used on him and Gordon though.....
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He will get fitter. Can't deny his class. If we can draft him a speedy partner in crime for next year then we will look far more dangerous.
Agree, think hes got a touch of class, but coming off a very low or non existant fitness base when compared to afl levels. Hopefully he works hard and gives himself every opportunity of making it. Looks deadly around goal with ball in hand
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good squad player IMHO.
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Goal smarts and natural forward above ordinary parts of his hand
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He will get fitter. Can't deny his class. If we can draft him a speedy partner in crime for next year then we will look far more dangerous.
Agree, think hes got a touch of class, but coming off a very low or non existant fitness base when compared to afl levels. Hopefully he works hard and gives himself every opportunity of making it. Looks deadly around goal with ball in hand
Yes totally agree with you two. Needs to get heaps fitter but IMO might become a good player for us. We all give first year draftee's time to get fit, at least a couple of pre-seasons, this kid is in the same boat only a little older. Keep playing him if he keeps kicking a few. I was trying to think of a player he may become if he continues to get fitter and stronger and I thought he could be that Medhurst type. Not everybody's favourite but could hurt you if you didn't show him some respect. He won't get 30 touches a week so don't expect it but could definitely hurt you. Don't gift him games but if he keeps improving keep him in the side. We desperately need help hitting the scoreboard. I also think he has more upside than Gordon.
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Pretty shrewd pick up this kid , knows how to kick a goal, takes no prisoners either, 3 v cats and pies. Can't wait until he builds a tanks and can rotate through the midfield :shh
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Has sense like infared ray beams
Hands like steel traps
Leg like a cannon
Just quietly :shh
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2nd efforts were awful. He looked really slow at times when he needed to apply defensive pressure. Especially in the last qtr. Down to fitness which will improve.
Has an eye for a goal and seems very clean which is what we need and have missed. He's a good enough replacement for Jake King. Good pick up, play him as much as possible please.
He kicks goals. Kicked a couple of bags in pre season, kicked a couple in his first game, was stiff against Brisbane with a head clash, everyone was poor against Hawks and kicked a couple of good goals vs the Cats. Keep playing him.
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I think he has got what it takes and he will get there but at the moment he is a bit slow, he seems to get caught a lot and thinks he has more time to get rid of the ball than he does. I am sure this will improve.
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Yeh he can find the goals but can he fight like the birdman?
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good skills but slower than the cape kennedy rocket hauler
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good skills but slower than the cape kennedy rocket hauler
Was there recently. That thing just crawled....... ;D
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I thought he made laid excellent tackles dunno what you bunnies are on about. Kicked 3 stuffin goals, we only got him into the system last draft and he gets thrown into the deep end, did alright in my eyes, kicked some slick goals, that is his job, if he can do that every week, he is schmick.
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This guy is a gun recruit. Tick.
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He can kick no doubt about it but he makes Greg Williams look like Paddy Dangerfield. Offensive weapon only. Can this type of player be carried in today's style of spread and fast transition?
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He can kick no doubt about it but he makes Greg Williams look like Paddy Dangerfield. Offensive weapon only. Can this type of player be carried in today's style of spread and fast transition?
He had 4 tackles on the weekend. I really like his defensive efforts. I don't know about his speed. Haven't noticed it. Football smarts make up a lot for leg speed. Being able to read the play, knowing when to go, this guy looks like a natural footballer to me. He has the right attitude as well.
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He can kick no doubt about it but he makes Greg Williams look like Paddy Dangerfield. Offensive weapon only. Can this type of player be carried in today's style of spread and fast transition?
He makes Mick Nolan look like a Peter Matera but can find it and that's all that matters.
Every time he ran to the ball he looked like that comedy duo who pretend to be in slow motion (can't remember there name) with everyone around going at normal pace.
It's actually almost comical to watch but hey let's hope he can keep it up.
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2nd efforts were awful. He looked really slow at times when he needed to apply defensive pressure. Especially in the last qtr. Down to fitness which will improve.
Has an eye for a goal and seems very clean which is what we need and have missed.
Agree with Pope.
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Very dangerous with the ball in his hands in front of goal. Just get him a bit of space and he'll nail it every time. Apart from that he's average. He's best 22 fp right now though
he doesnt have much competition there in lies many of our problems. clearly the best option we have atm but i sure as hell hope we dont do our usual thing and hang our hats him thinking we dont have to find better or at the least competition.
weaknesses in his game has me concerned about his long term viability. same goes for gordon as well.
ah well time will tell eh. anyway i agree with most on here we need to play him atm and give him every chance.
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Not having a go at anyone in particular but, you cannot judge someones ability in 3-4 games. If he's still making the same mistakes at the end of the season then you can start to see a pattern emerge but right now, the bloke hasn't been in the system for 5 minutes, is still learning the right running patterns, still building a fitness base and still understanding what is required to play the role which is likely very different to what he's played in the past. For the time being just happy to see what he can bring as a raw unfit player.
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Not having a go at anyone in particular but, you cannot judge someones ability in 3-4 games. If he's still making the same mistakes at the end of the season then you can start to see a pattern emerge but right now, the bloke hasn't been in the system for 5 minutes, is still learning the right running patterns, still building a fitness base and still understanding what is required to play the role which is likely very different to what he's played in the past. For the time being just happy to see what he can bring as a raw unfit player.
Rubbish
If llyod. Gordon griff mcdonuts Elton types have one bad game they should be dropped
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:lol
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Not having a go at anyone in particular but, you cannot judge someones ability in 3-4 games. If he's still making the same mistakes at the end of the season then you can start to see a pattern emerge but right now, the bloke hasn't been in the system for 5 minutes, is still learning the right running patterns, still building a fitness base and still understanding what is required to play the role which is likely very different to what he's played in the past. For the time being just happy to see what he can bring as a raw unfit player.
Rubbish
If llyod. Gordon griff mcdonuts Elton types have one bad game they Are dropped
Edited for accuracy😉
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Tough gig the specialist small forward especially in an ordinary team.
I like him because he makes the most of limited opportunities.
In saying that he's going to have to keep kicking goals due to his physical limitations.
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
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Would you trade him for Cyrril
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Would you trade him for Cyrril
Worst troll in history this walrus. "Groupie_"
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:lol
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
Brodders was a gun.
Would love to have him involved with the coaching
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
One of my fav tigers is brodders :cheers
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He mightnt be quick but gee his ability to pounce on a loose ball is panther like ...........Fj, you've done it again :clapping
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
Paul Broderick was only slow in straight line leg speed. In all other facets of the game he was like lightning. His hands and mind were elite. No comparison here I'm afraid.
Lloyd is different. Not quick at all but knows where to run and is always dangerous around the goals. Rare to have a tiger player with natural goal sense. Will get better with time.
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It's not just about goals as a small forward as we all know. Lloyd will also be marked on his ability to pressure the opposition defenders and trap the ball inside the attacking 50m.
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It's not just about goals as a small forward as we all know. Lloyd will also be marked on his ability to pressure the opposition defenders and trap the ball inside the attacking 50m.
He s not bad at that either just quietly :shh
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It's not just about goals as a small forward as we all know. Lloyd will also be marked on his ability to pressure the opposition defenders and trap the ball inside the attacking 50m.
He s not bad at that either just quietly :shh
Room for improvement.
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Have to keep in mind how far back this kid is coming from. Forget his age, he has basically come from local footy a few years ago. Still learning the game while trying to catch up on 5 years of fitness in terms of training at the elite level..
He deserves a little leeway.
I like the kid.
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Have to keep in mind how far back this kid is coming from. Forget his age, he has basically come from local footy a few years ago. Still learning the game while trying to catch up on 5 years of fitness in terms of training at the elite level..
He deserves a little leeway.
I like the kid.
Agree with that. :clapping
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Have to keep in mind how far back this kid is coming from. Forget his age, he has basically come from local footy a few years ago. Still learning the game while trying to catch up on 5 years of fitness in terms of training at the elite level..
He deserves a little leeway.
I like the kid.
Agree with that. :clapping
Yep :bow
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
Paul Broderick was only slow in straight line leg speed. In all other facets of the game he was like lightning. His hands and mind were elite. No comparison here I'm afraid.
Lloyd is different. Not quick at all but knows where to run and is always dangerous around the goals. Rare to have a tiger player with natural goal sense. Will get better with time.
thats pretty much the point i am trying to make though, that there is more to a footballer than leg speed.
Llyod looks slow when running in a straight line, but football nouse and speed of mind make up for it, as plenty of good players that were were not natural athletes have shown. Im not for a minute suggesting that lloyd is, or will be, as good as Broddo
as an example, Jackson is slow of mind with ball in hand, but Lloyd makes a decision quickly and executes it quickly, which is why he is dangerous around goals, and we need to remember that he will still be coming to terms with the pace of the game.
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
Paul Broderick was only slow in straight line leg speed. In all other facets of the game he was like lightning. His hands and mind were elite. No comparison here I'm afraid.
Lloyd is different. Not quick at all but knows where to run and is always dangerous around the goals. Rare to have a tiger player with natural goal sense. Will get better with time.
thats pretty much the point i am trying to make though, that there is more to a footballer than leg speed.
Llyod looks slow when running in a straight line, but football nouse and speed of mind make up for it, as plenty of good players that were were not natural athletes have shown. Im not for a minute suggesting that lloyd is, or will be, as good as Broddo
as an example, Jackson is slow of mind with ball in hand, but Lloyd makes a decision quickly and executes it quickly, which is why he is dangerous around goals, and we need to remember that he will still be coming to terms with the pace of the game.
Good points these. Look at an athlete like Wayne Gretzky, who scored/assisted more goals in the NHL by a country mile and currently holds 60 NHL records.
And he wasn't tall, strongly built or quick either. All between the ears!
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gunna have to disagree once again with people.
this is no kid we are talking about.
hes a sml fwd who is actually 24 and for a sml specialist has a pretty significant weakness in that he lacks pace.
at 24 for a sml he has little real upside imo. he does as people say have a fitness upside.
the other issue is with the way the game is going. your sml specialist fwd cannot be slow not with the number of talls most clubs are playing both fwd and back. if he cant apply constant pressure and defend as well as kick goals he will be a liability in some ways and he will limit what structures we can go with.
again i will say im all for playing him and seeing where it ends up. it is nice to have a genuine sml fwd who knows how to kick goals.the thing is to me hes just another upgrade who will need upgrading in time. he may not be a glass half full but hes certainly a 60/40 for want of a better way of putting it. i dont think he will be anything more than good ordinary.
i sure as hell hope we dont put all of our sml fwd eggs in just the lloyd basket.
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going at twice as many possessions per game as king
thats upside in my book
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his panther like reactions compensate for not being a backmarker at Stawell gift :shh
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If he kicks goals I don't care how fast he is.
Everything is pointless unless he knows where the goals are, and at the moment he's one of very few players that do.
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Choco Williams on Lloyd ...
“It took a few games in the ‘twos’ to show his form, and probably build his fitness and his body shape in the right order to play AFL. He worked really hard at that.
“In the games he played he showed some good stuff, but inconsistency with young players is typical.
“We hope that he can play at least half of the games for the rest of the year, and each week in the last few we’ve been talking about trying to get him back into the side.
“The path that he’s taken to get here, usually those sort of players are more resilient. They’re more determined, and hopefully that leads to a long career.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-08/lloyd-eyes-senior-return
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This guy should've never been dropped imo
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Still considered a "cub" at 24?
“In the games he played he showed some good stuff, but inconsistency with young players is typical.
Again...24....not a kid....
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stuff me @ looks slow.
cant be that slow if he can get the ball and kick goals, as well as lay tackles.
Paul Broderick was slow, but as with natural footballers rather than athletes, their football nouse and awareness more than makes up for it.
Paul Broderick was only slow in straight line leg speed. In all other facets of the game he was like lightning. His hands and mind were elite. No comparison here I'm afraid.
Lloyd is different. Not quick at all but knows where to run and is always dangerous around the goals. Rare to have a tiger player with natural goal sense. Will get better with time.
thats pretty much the point i am trying to make though, that there is more to a footballer than leg speed.
Llyod looks slow when running in a straight line, but football nouse and speed of mind make up for it, as plenty of good players that were were not natural athletes have shown. Im not for a minute suggesting that lloyd is, or will be, as good as Broddo
as an example, Jackson is slow of mind with ball in hand, but Lloyd makes a decision quickly and executes it quickly, which is why he is dangerous around goals, and we need to remember that he will still be coming to terms with the pace of the game.
Agree vision in football is a critical skill to have. Broderick was a brilliant footballer because his vision was extraordinary. If you have the ability to make sound decisions very quickly it does not matter how quick you are pace wise.
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Still considered a "cub" at 24?
“In the games he played he showed some good stuff, but inconsistency with young players is typical.
Again...24....not a kid....
I would assume the context being "At this level"
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Still considered a "cub" at 24?
“In the games he played he showed some good stuff, but inconsistency with young players is typical.
Again...24....not a kid....
I would assume the context being "At this level"
yep, from where he has come was a massive step up in conditioning, if he can handle the requirements to have ther necessary conditioning at this level then I have no doubt his talent is sufficient for him to make the grade
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Get this lad in tip top physical shape, work him to the bone for the rest of the year and a massive preseason and he will be a gem. Has a touch of class and most importantly knows where the goals are.
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24 is a kid if you look at our list
We have surreal 25 year old plus types
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Get this lad in tip top physical shape, work him to the bone for the rest of the year and a massive preseason and he will be a gem. Has a touch of class and most importantly knows where the goals are.
nah, too slow ;)
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good game
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Showed that our development ain't entirely dead, went back to vfl , knocked up some good numbers and today looked twice the player he did in his last senior appearance, gutsy marks, took on his opponent and snagged a couple of majors , should have had more :clapping
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Runs like he has concrete boots
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Get this lad in tip top physical shape, work him to the bone for the rest of the year and a massive preseason and he will be a gem. Has a touch of class and most importantly knows where the goals are.
I thought he looked a bit thinner today already. Needs a big preseason to get rid of some more puppy fat but I like the kid/24 years old. :lol
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Runs like he has concrete boots
Really, didn't look to slow here old mate ::)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-13/round-17-long-lloyd-goal
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His goal sense is what makes him a winner in my books. Definitely had the potential to be a good 50-100 gamer for us. Needs a solid pre season so he can crumb and lead all day but I think he definitely has the potential
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Doesn't have to be the fastest. Has showed that he is smart and has goal-sense. That's a good start. Should have kicked 4 goals at least today though.
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Showed that our development ain't entirely dead,
Showed that our coach has NFI how to run things
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Better than Shultz
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only criticism of Lloyd would be that he let white run off him on occasion
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Showed that our development ain't entirely dead,
Showed that our coach has NFI how to run things
No worries his 25 not 18. The bloke can play and if you watch his previous games you will see it hasnt developed it since he was recruited.
That being said 3 goals, 20 possy's. Yep he wil make way for grigg or knights
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Runs like he has concrete boots
Really, didn't look to slow here old mate ::)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-13/round-17-long-lloyd-goal
What does that clip show from a pace point of view?
He has a bit of class and smarts, but is slow as treacle.
That clip proves all three.
Old mate
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He has a few tricks young Lloyd , a couple more than I gave him credit for, can take a very good grab and can take on his opponents in more than a straight line , not to mention he has a good leg on him
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He has a few tricks young Lloyd , a couple more than I gave him credit for, can take a very good grab and can take on his opponents in more than a straight line , not to mention he has a good leg on him
So did Nahas but that didn't make him a good footballer.
;D
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The dude has kicked 100 goals at a lower level.........no matter what level you play you need to know where the goals are......I don't care if he's slow if he kicks 2 goals a game then that's 2 bloody more than what we have been getting
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The dude has kicked 100 goals at a lower level.........no matter what level you play you need to know where the goals are......I don't care if he's slow if he kicks 2 goals a game then that's 2 bloody more than what we have been getting
Kick multiple seasons of 100s
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He has a few tricks young Lloyd , a couple more than I gave him credit for, can take a very good grab and can take on his opponents in more than a straight line , not to mention he has a good leg on him
So did Nahas but that didn't make him a good footballer.
;D
I see what you did there! :lol
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Lloyd makes bold statement
richmondfc.com.au
July 14, 2014 3:58 PM
“I thought I went okay. I focused a lot on forward pressure and I think we did that collectively, as a forward group. It was good to get on the end of a couple of goals and, hopefully (I can) stay in the side a bit longer,” Lloyd told ‘Roar Vision’ post-match.
“Goals and pressure are my main focus. Probably, more so pressure, and then that hopefully brings the goals. So, it’s pleasing that we could do a bit of both.”
Lloyd also outlined his aims for the rest of the season.
“To stay in the senior team is definitely my plan, but I also want to play my role and get better every game,” he said.
“So, if I can help the team in any way, and keep getting better myself, then that’s the plan going forward.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-14/lloyd-makes-bold-statement
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Should be in the team every week anyway. Seems like the obvious replacement for King and shows glimpses, just needs a regular go to find his feet.
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natural looking forward.
With Riewoldt, Lennon, Lloyd, McBean the club finally seems to have a future forward line. Took a while to preplace Nathan Brown. Like manchester united and roy keane
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natural looking forward.
With Riewoldt, Lennon, Lloyd, McBean the club finally seems to have a future forward line. Took a while to preplace Nathan Brown. Like manchester united and roy keane
I dream of the day we can have return to having a Richo/Brown like duo in the forward line.
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Have to say it again. This kid looks like a gun. Has great poise and balance. Will only get better.
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natural looking forward.
With Riewoldt, Lennon, Lloyd, McBean the club finally seems to have a future forward line. Took a while to preplace Nathan Brown. Like manchester united and roy keane
Really hope so. Roy Keane was an incredible player for Manchester United and agree it took a while for United to adjust without him.
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Could be even better if he works his arse off this summer.
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The big caveat is that he needs to get super fit.
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Given the nature of afl it was going to be hard to us to replace n brown. Almost instantaneous I knew our list was in trouble for next 3-5 years cause brown (and Richo) were carrying an ordinary side. On the bright side deledio chimp Martin are talented and play well as forwards. With the development of miles vlastuin Conca we may have the luxury of playing them forward of the ball, finally. It seems hardwick has also worked out deledio is indeed a weapon in the forward half.
Jack is a unique beast. It's doubtful mcdonuts-Lennon-llyod-McBean will individually be as good as brown but at least we finally have some blokes with goal sense. Everyone's mate Shane Edwards has kicked a few this year and is reasonable set shot and front and square.. Just quietly.
It seems united are in for Vidal who is by all accounts a monster. Vidal-Herrera-mata would do justice to Keene schoolers gigs and co...
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Makes me feel dirty saying it but there is something strangely satisfying about yelling 'Llllllllllloooyyyyyyyyddddddd' at the ground when he kicks a goal.
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Makes me feel dirty saying it but there is something strangely satisfying about yelling 'Llllllllllloooyyyyyyyyddddddd' at the ground when he kicks a goal.
He hasn't taken a dive for.a free which is pleasing and reminiscent of the Lloyd name
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Makes me feel dirty saying it but there is something strangely satisfying about yelling 'Llllllllllloooyyyyyyyyddddddd' at the ground when he kicks a goal.
He hasn't taken a dive for.a free which is pleasing and reminiscent of the Lloyd name
nor does he pick off cheap concussions off the bounce, or grass clippings whilst enjoying a tight pain of shorts
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Given the nature of afl it was going to be hard to us to replace n brown. Almost instantaneous I knew our list was in trouble for next 3-5 years cause brown (and Richo) were carrying an ordinary side. On the bright side deledio chimp Martin are talented and play well as forwards. With the development of miles vlastuin Conca we may have the luxury of playing them forward of the ball, finally. It seems hardwick has also worked out deledio is indeed a weapon in the forward half.
Jack is a unique beast. It's doubtful mcdonuts-Lennon-llyod-McBean will individually be as good as brown but at least we finally have some blokes with goal sense. Everyone's mate Shane Edwards has kicked a few this year and is reasonable set shot and front and square.. Just quietly.
It seems united are in for Vidal who is by all accounts a monster. Vidal-Herrera-mata would do justice to Keene schoolers gigs and co...
Vidal is apparently saying he is happy at Juventus
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Utd just signed a billion odd pound deal with Adidas and the juv coach just left so well see what happens
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What's that got to do with Sam Lloyd?
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He has a few tricks young Lloyd , a couple more than I gave him credit for, can take a very good grab and can take on his opponents in more than a straight line , not to mention he has a good leg on him
So did Nahas but that didn't make him a good footballer.
;D
'The helicopter', 'Figure Eights' and 'The flesh coloured wrist band' whilst impressive tricks were never going to give him much of an edge in footy
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gotta be disappointing for mature recruits like lloyd and gordon to play such a small amount of senior footy. especially when we are screaming out for their types.
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LLOYD! discuss
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Nup
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If history continues he won't do anything for a couple games and in about 5 weeks will kick another 3+
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Don't believe we can play Lloyd & Gordon in the same side
Based on yesterday, Lloyd is ahead of Gordon in the pecking order. Took his opportunity yesterday and that's all you can ask.
Gordon on the other hand has taken his opportunities in his 2 NAB games so far - please keep your feet son
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Lloyd is a clever footballer, safe mitts, sure kick and provides a good option when the others are well covered
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Lloyd is a footballer, I like Nippa but his attributes are athletic not footballing
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wish this bloke was quick, would be a real handful
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he is quick of mind which sometimes is as good
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he is quick of mind which sometimes is as good
I know that.. simply wish he had speed to go with what he has
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Funny , coming out of 2014 I had Gordo clearky ahead of lloyd. Not now, good has struggled to have any impact in two hit outs with lots of chances.
Lloyd has got a lot fitter and certainly played with a fair amount of confidence. Another performance like that against NM and he s in r1 . Gordon is out for the mo , Lennon has taken his spot
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see what happens, its all kick and giggle games atm. Most of our senior blokes were cruising. It is an opportunity for blokes like Lloyd and co to stand up and pick up the slack which he did but others did not.
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see what happens, its all kick and giggle games atm. Most of our senior blokes were cruising.
Yep a lot of people reading too much into a practice match but then it happens every year.
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If history continues he won't do anything for a couple games and in about 5 weeks will kick another 3+
Bingo.
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Pre-season Round 2: Lloyd's bag of four ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-16/preseason-round-2-lloyds-bag-of-four
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Was that conca hitting Lloyd on the tit for his third goal :shh
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Was that conca hitting Lloyd on the tit for his third goal :shh
Well wacko, let's give him another 5 years right now then....
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RSN's Chrisso & Mick McGuane caught up with Richmond's, Sam Lloyd, a mature-age forward, who impressed in his debut season in 2014. Sam joins the program discussing the Tigers' pre-season, including his four goal effort in their thumping win over Port on Saturday:
AUDIO: https://soundcloud.com/rsn-racing/sam-lloyd-richmond-tigers-afl-1
* I was happy to get a run and contribute a bit in the second half on the weekend and get away with a win. I haven’t done six months of pre-season without thinking I’m not going to play seniors. So I’m surely hoping that I can get a spot there. There’s a lot of competition at the moment. Everyone’s flying and everyone’s had a good pre-season. But I suppose it’s healthy competition and it’s good to see because everyone’s giving the coaches a bit to think about.
* It was a good experience playing last year. Probably more than I expected to play eight games, being my first year and the preseason I had coming in. I gained a lot of experience from it last year and took a few things out of it. I had to work on my fitness and tried to get a bit quicker over the summer and tried to get a bigger engine to play that half-forward role.
* I’ve played a bit of midfield but played mostly forward my whole career. I think playing forward, it just sort of comes to me a little bit. At the moment, I’ll probably stick up forward and maybe pinch-hit in a couple of centre bounces. But as it goes on, and as I further increase my endurance, I hope to get in the midfield at some stage.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-18/lloyd-buoyed-by-big-preseason
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Rates himself pretty highly ay :shh
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I'm hearing that lloyd will kick 50+ goals this season :shh
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Rates himself pretty highly ay :shh
not going to get too far at that level if you dont
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Think you will find he is a pretty humble bloke
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I'm hearing that lloyd will kick 50+ goals this season :shh
Good about time our ressies made the finals
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Was that conca hitting Lloyd on the tit for his third goal :shh
Well wacko, let's give him another 5 years right now then....
Lets just see how the season progresses and make a considered decision but I will add, if you continue to look only at a few clangers per game, you will miss watching a smart efficient player that is Conca :thumbsup
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I'm hearing that lloyd will kick 50+ goals this season :shh
Good about time our ressies made the finals
:lol
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Couple of great goals tonight plus a gimme.
New standard or just another occasional cameo?
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Couple of great goals tonight plus a gimme.
New standard or just another occasional cameo?
still dont see it with him. only vfl standard imo.
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If he kicks a couple like those two every week he's a keeper. We'll see
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If he kicks a couple like those two every week he's a keeper. We'll see
disagree. surely we have learnt by now its not all about the goals. its about the overall role. i look and think almost invisible for way too many periods despite the two goals.
one other thing the commentators on telly may well talk him up but imo he lacks poise pace and polish for a player in his role. as you say we"ll see but for me i just dont see it.
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Could have added a few more goals, has a knack for getting to good positions. Should have kicked it to him more when yarran was on him since yarran can't defend.
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Watched him a bit closer last night and was disappointed in his 2nd & 3rd efforts. Compared to Morris who is defensively excellent as a forward, Lloyd doesn't put anywhere enough pressure on when he isn't directly in the contest. Happy with his output re: goals but needs to work much harder without the ball if I'm going to be sold on him.
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If he kicks a couple like those two every week he's a keeper. We'll see
disagree. surely we have learnt by now its not all about the goals. its about the overall role. i look and think almost invisible for way too many periods despite the two goals.
one other thing the commentators on telly may well talk him up but imo he lacks poise pace and polish for a player in his role. as you say we"ll see but for me i just dont see it.
That goal he kicked from 50 showed poise and polish!!
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This is a hard - valid points from both sides. That goal he kicked from 50 was all class and tipped me in favour of his game but he needs to work on the defensive side of his game to be a permanent fixture
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Couple of great goals tonight plus a gimme.
New standard or just another occasional cameo?
still dont see it with him. only vfl standard imo.
Adds a nice balance up forward Riewoldt Griffiths and Lloyd are a good balance in the roles they play. I hope that Butler will show something in the reserves and he can go into our forward line as well, we lack a speedy forward, we have Edwards who can do it but if Butler comes on in development he will be a real bonus.
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Lloyd has footy smarts and is selfish hence he got three goals tonight. One from advantage from the Morris holding free in the second. You know what small forwards usually are a little selfish and I for one don't mind it. We need some players to be selfish and direct in their actions rather than too much overuse.
Look at the Dusty argument he is 50 out on the run and he passes it to 30 out deep in the pocket rather than kick it a country mile through the big sticks.
All present valid arguments on this one but I reckon we need him or Gordon to play that role if Morris is going to be that defensive forward. Gordon has pace but if we can get 40-50 goals between Lloyd and Gordon then any Morris gets will be a huge bonus. :thumbsup
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Is a sharp-shooter.
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if mitch morton can kick a couple in a gf ....
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talking sml fwds that real mug garlett who we didnt need to even talk to who some on here thought a no hoper had some sort of game today probably should have kicked 7.
ah if jeffrey a mug what does that make our small fwds. uber duds eh.
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agree claw, should have looked at garlett can play! but as is so often the case fans don't give the respect to opposition players bc they're opposition players. Recall many on here laughing at those who thought garlett would be handy
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It's about how we line up against the given team on the day.
Probably should use him against the shittier sides for the next couple and
see if he achieves consistency.
Hard to justify giving him the arse after 3.
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It's about how we line up against the given team on the day.
Probably should use him against the pootier sides for the next couple and
see if he achieves consistency.
Hard to justify giving him the arse after 3.
i agree im not saying he had a bad game or anything in fact he was servicable. im just saying i dont see too much in him.
his lack of pace and non existent tackling and that goes for other fwds as well, imo means they feel they need to play morris as a defensive fwd.
i have never ever believed in that sort of thing. it should be a given that all your fwds chase pressurise and tackle and importantly hit the scoreboard. if they cant do these basics then we must look to find players who can.the best way of keeping a running defender at home is kick goals.
ffs steve morris with just 3 touches and only 4 tackles by the way, means we played a fwd short. that sort of output cant be justified, its just not good enough.
if hes forced to play like that because the likes of lloyd and whoever else we play down there cant chase tackle etc then they are a part of the problem.
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imo he lacks poise pace and polish
He may lack pace but I don't agree with him lacking poise and polish. Wouldn't kick any goals at all if he didn't have some poise and polish
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imo he lacks poise pace and polish
He may lack pace but I don't agree with him lacking poise and polish. Wouldn't kick any goals at all if he didn't have some poise and polish
Agree he doesn't have much pace but poise & polish when it comes to kicking goals is not something he is lacking
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Lloyd lets loose
Clever forward Sam Lloyd had a three-goal match for the fourth time in his nine-game league career.
He kicked three goals on debut against Collingwood at the MCG in Round 4, three against Geelong at the MCG in Round 7, three against Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium in Round 17, and now three against Carlton at the ‘G’ in Round 1, 2015.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-07/greenbergs-grabs-fleetfoot-mac
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Due for a quiet one next week. Maybe in round 4 he'll kick another 3
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imo he lacks poise pace and polish
He may lack pace but I don't agree with him lacking poise and polish. Wouldn't kick any goals at all if he didn't have some poise and polish
Agree he doesn't have much pace but poise & polish when it comes to kicking goals is not something he is lacking
when i say he lacks poise polish i have seen him miss goals that classy sml players just dont should not miss. yep he may jag the odd pearler but he also misses too often for me.
im happy to concede i may be being a bit harsh on him we will see. imo the other problem is if hes too slow to apply pressure and lay tackles he should not play. shame we couldt build a hbrid or a cross between him and morris might end up with a good sml fwd then. too many glass half fulls and it will kill us.
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He's 192cms and you call him a small forward but you can't be more than 200cms to be a kpp.
Not making it too hard craw?
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He's 192cms and you call him a small forward but you can't be more than 200cms to be a kpp.
Not making it too hard craw?
He's 180cm tall but yeah righto.
imo the other problem is if hes too slow to apply pressure and lay tackles he should not play. shame we couldt build a hbrid or a cross between him and morris might end up with a good sml fwd then. too many glass half fulls and it will kill us.
Was just thinking how most teams have two or at least one good well rounded small forward and we have two small forwards with one being there purely for defensive but lacks any polish and the other has polish (IMO) but no defensive pressure :lol
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He's 192cms and you call him a small forward but you can't be more than 200cms to be a kpp.
Not making it too hard craw?
He's 180cm tall but yeah righto.
imo the other problem is if hes too slow to apply pressure and lay tackles he should not play. shame we couldt build a hbrid or a cross between him and morris might end up with a good sml fwd then. too many glass half fulls and it will kill us.
Was just thinking how most teams have two or at least one good well rounded small forward and we have two small forwards with one being there purely for defensive but lacks any polish and the other has polish (IMO) but no defensive pressure :lol
yep its easy to see. by the way listening to the game on radio or the last q anyway and again he missed a goal that he should kick.
reckon a blind man can see he isnt the answer long term neither is morris surely they can see the importance of at least trying a young bloke like butler who it seems at least has most of the attributes needed to succeed in the role. its this constant failure to recognise those who can only take us so far that constantly kills us.
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Didn't mind his game today, was overlooked several times when he should have got it.
Doesn't help that when Griffiths gets it 75 metres out stupid morons start yelling to kick a goal.
Richmond supporters are so stuffing dumb.
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Yep liked his game. Put good pressure on and had a presence to be honest
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I was at the game and thought he was good. Had a more effective first half than second for mine, but that's not to say he stunk up the game like a dozen or more others
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Lloydy is handy I reckon.
Although if he is to play, the other smalls in our forward half need to be quick. Defensive pressure in our forward half is a HUGE issue for mine.
Didnt help that we lost Lids and Edwards and replaced them with slow pokes.
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Talented Richmond forward Sam Lloyd caught up with Club goalkicking great Matthew Richardson this week for a special Roar Vision video feature. Here’s a snapshot of Lloyd’s thoughts on a variety of Tiger topics...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-04-23/lloyd-and-richo-talk-forward
On his start to season 2015
“I’m pretty happy with the way I’m going. I’ve been a bit quiet at times, and found a bit of the footy at other stages as well. So, three rounds in, I’m pretty happy with it.”
On a potential push into the midfield
“’Ladey’ (assistant coach Brendon Lade) put me in for about two minutes on Saturday (against Brisbane), and he apologised to me . . . I tried to develop my tank over the off-season, which I think’s worked. You can’t just be a forward that sits in the goal-square these days, so I’ve developed my tank and, depending on what happens, hopefully I can push in the midfield at some stage.”
Read more and the full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-23/say-it-again-sam
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Gee imagine if we had a Garlett to choose over Lloyd :shh
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His game was the worst game of footy I have ever seen by anyone....ever!!
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Add about 15 of his team mates
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They will have to call him Soap Lloyd from now on, never seen a player fumble as much as he did tonight. In fact most of the team were the same, Demons in comparison were much better in the conditions.
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Add about 15 of his team mates
Agree but at least they could pick the bloody ball up. I thought conditions like tonight were perfect for him....wrong.
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:lol
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Add about 15 of his team mates
Agree but at least they could pick the bloody ball up. I thought conditions like tonight were perfect for him....wrong.
you must of watched a different game if you thought Lloyd was the only one who couldnt take a clean possession for us tonight
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Lloyd must go back to the two's
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Lloyd fumbled every single opportunity that he had to have an influence on the game. An absolute shocker.
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I don't know why we persist with other clubs regects. I get with GWS and GC concessions we had to do something different but, why would any club give up a player with potential. The % ratio of someone getting delisted to be given a 2nd chance and turning into a crucial player on a list would have to be incredibly small.
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Deniliquin for a reason
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Lloyd fumbled every single opportunity that he had to have an influence on the game. An absolute shocker.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay?round=CD_R201501404&matchId=CD_M20150140401&eventType=contestedMark&seek=2969&videoQuality=high
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something about him
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nothing about him
e.f.a
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Lacks that half a yard of pace at this level.
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Does this dude have a stipulation in his contract that he can't kick more than 3 goals?
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Kicks goals
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l like this lad his a good kick & pops up unexpected
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Goal average creeping up. Now 1.3 per game. Very handy indeed. He has replaced the scoring of Griffiths while he is out and Lennon replaced Shed's scoring whilst he was out. Nice to have some options at last.
I like where Lloyd is going with his game. He is now always on the move and he actually has a very good tank so he is now finding out that work rate will help him score. He is not fast but if he keeps on the move he will keep involved in the game. He also seems to have built some core strength which has allowed him to break tackles.
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footy smarts will get you to the ball more than pace anyway
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Consistency has been his biggest issue. Keep it up son :thumbsup
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Pain of finals omission driving Tiger Lloyd in 2016
AFL.com.au
February 6, 2016
RICHMOND'S decision to drop Sam Lloyd on the eve of last year's finals series was the elephant in the room when the small forward sat down for his end of season exit meeting.
Six days after being told his good form was not enough to keep him in the team for the Tigers' elimination final against North Melbourne, Lloyd was still raw when he fronted a panel of Richmond coaches and staff.
Sitting across from him were Damien Hardwick, his line coach Greg Mellor, physical performance manager Peter Burge, list manager Blaire Hartley and head of coaching Tim Livingstone.
"It's quite intense," Lloyd told AFL.com.au.
"I was dropped on the Thursday and then my meeting was on the next Wednesday … it hadn't been a week and it was probably the elephant in the room, so they got it out of the way.
"I was disappointed and I've had a few conversations with 'Dimma' since and I've really used it as motivation through the pre-season.
"I'll admit I thought I should have played, but I've got to keep working so I'm definitely there this season if we play finals."
Lloyd was one of two surprise omissions when the Tigers announced their elimination final team last year, with Ben Lennon also making way for recalled pair Ben Griffiths and Reece Conca.
The match committee had decided they needed another tall to combat North Melbourne, prompting the Griffiths selection, while Conca's ability to play midfield got him the nod over Lloyd.
Overlooking Lloyd under those circumstances is unlikely to happen again, however, after a standout pre-season from the 25-year-old, who knocked a decent chunk off his 3km personal best.
"My versatility and spending time in the midfield is something I've been working on," he said.
"That's part of getting a bigger tank and that's something I'm up to now.
"I knocked a bit off my PB in the 3km, but it's been more the interval running.
"That's helped me on the track, where my pressure and tackling and physicality have lifted, which is what the coaches were after."
Lloyd was told in his exit interview that he had gone from a 'two' rating defensively to a 'six' in his second season. The aim now after a strong pre-season is to move closer to a 10.
Contracted until the end of this season, the former VFL goalkicker knows it is a big year and lifting his defensive game – as well as his versatility – is crucial.
Snared as a mature-age recruit when the Tigers were seeking AFL-ready talent at the end of 2013, Lloyd joined the club alongside former AFL players Matt Thomas, Nathan Gordon and Todd Banfield.
That trio has since been delisted, but Lloyd remains and has upside to his game.
"In a sense we (mature-age recruits) are a bit of a gamble," Lloyd said.
"Those guys all came from other AFL clubs, whereas I came from the VFL.
"I don't think I've played my best footy yet, which I'm aiming to do this year.
"It's a big year for me to show them I an make it at the top level."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-05/pain-of-finals-omission-driving-tiger-lloyd-in-2016
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Another ordinary player who has done little with glaring weaknesses that the blind and deluded hang their hats on.
Guess what ferals we just used pick 15 on a small forward i wonder why we needed to do that.
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Another ordinary player who has done little with glaring weaknesses that the blind and deluded hang their hats on.
Guess what ferals we just used pick 15 on a small forward i wonder why we needed to do that.
Is there any need for that, really?
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Another ordinary player who has done little with glaring weaknesses that the blind and deluded hang their hats on.
Guess what ferals we just used pick 15 on a small forward i wonder why we needed to do that.
Is there any need for that, really?
It's pure claw. Why are you so surprised?
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I like Lloyd
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Another ordinary player who has done little with glaring weaknesses that the blind and deluded hang their hats on.
Guess what ferals we just used pick 15 on a small forward i wonder why we needed to do that.
Clawski, show some class mate. It's a long year but it could be rewarding.
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You can say plenty of bad things about Sammy, but you have to admit he knows how to kick a goal! Brilliant spin out of the pack & left foot snap to ice the game for us tonight! :clapping
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You can say plenty of bad things about Sammy, but you have to admit he knows how to kick a goal! Brilliant spin out of the pack & left foot snap to ice the game for us tonight! :clapping
murphy was all like wtf
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Had a good game :o Lets see if he can do it consistently.
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Happy for Lloyd to succeed but if we are fair dinkum Lloyd isn't winning us a premiership.
Incorrect to put our small forward points on him. Another poor decision by the club no to invest in Small Forward stocks and Pace in F50. Seeing Lambert, Morris and Lloyd in the F50 is embarrassing.
Loves a goal but against decent opponents has always struggled. Went missing for 3 qtrs and stood up when mattered, great stuff but just not convinced.
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Happy for Lloyd to succeed but if we are fair dinkum Lloyd isn't winning us a premiership.
Incorrect to put our small forward points on him. Another poor decision by the club no to invest in Small Forward stocks and Pace in F50. Seeing Lambert, Morris and Lloyd in the F50 is embarrassing.
Loves a goal but against decent opponents has always struggled. Went missing for 3 qtrs and stood up when mattered, great stuff but just not convinced.
dude rioli was our first pick.
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Had a good game :o Lets see if he can do it consistently.
Agree. I'm a big Lloyd fan but let's face it he's made for games like that against ordinary opposition. Still think he will struggle against the better sides.
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They said last night in 21 games he has had 6 games of 3+ goals. He knows how to kick a goal
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Had a good game :o Lets see if he can do it consistently.
Agree. I'm a big Lloyd fan but let's face it he's made for games like that against ordinary opposition. Still think he will struggle against the better sides.
Maybe
He's still got time on his side
It's good he has changed his body shape, looks fit
He might look better with a side including deledio, yarren
Ideas Lennon , butler will put pressure on him via vfl
Mitch Morton won a gf... You can fit a few natural forwards on the list
At worst good depth
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Had a good game :o Lets see if he can do it consistently.
Agree. I'm a big Lloyd fan but let's face it he's made for games like that against ordinary opposition. Still think he will struggle against the better sides.
Maybe
He's still got time on his side
It's good he has changed his body shape, looks fit
He might look better with a side including deledio, yarren
Ideas Lennon , butler will put pressure on him via vfl
Mitch Morton won a gf... You can fit a few natural forwards on the list
At worst good depth
Agree. Happy to have him around.
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Stood up when we needed to win, has my vote for next week.
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the fact he kicked the crucial goals when we were getting pantsed I think he deserves another shot against the 'wood.
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Happy for Lloyd to succeed but if we are fair dinkum Lloyd isn't winning us a premiership.
Incorrect to put our small forward points on him. Another poor decision by the club no to invest in Small Forward stocks and Pace in F50. Seeing Lambert, Morris and Lloyd in the F50 is embarrassing.
Loves a goal but against decent opponents has always struggled. Went missing for 3 qtrs and stood up when mattered, great stuff but just not convinced.
dude rioli was our first pick.
And Morris wasn't even in the F50
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Had a good game :o Lets see if he can do it consistently.
Agree. I'm a big Lloyd fan but let's face it he's made for games like that against ordinary opposition. Still think he will struggle against the better sides.
Haha.
The whole stuffn team struggles against perceived weaker opposition.
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Hmmmmm really
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Hmmmmm really
No, all generalizations are false.
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6 X 3 goals in 21 games.....been the " sub" quite a few times as well.
Not bad for a speculation pick.
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6 X 3 goals in 21 games.....been the " sub" quite a few times as well.
Not bad for a speculation pick.
How many against contenders?
Do you think Lennon would've been any worse?
He's a light weight with no upside.
Surely there are better options - even on potential.
At least with Lennon we knows there's still upside.
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I was shocked Lennon wasn't in the team .
No reason he can't come into the team at the expense of Benny G ( who has kicked 3 goals only once in almost 50 games)
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Lloyds bags of 3
2014
Rd 4 vs Collingwood
Rd 7 vs Geelong
Rd 17 vs Port
2015
Rd 1 Carlton
Rd 16 Gold Coast
Rd 17 Collingwood
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Benny G plays ruck.
Lennon a hit up hff
Lloyd or Lennon.
I'd take Lennon each & every day of the week.
Equally, I'd have played Butler over Morris.
These types of selection errors take the wind from your sails as they are easily avoidable mistakes.
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I think Lennon has tremendous upside and hope he is selected next week.
I also think the reason we are 1-0 and not 0-1 is due to the final quarters of Lambert and Lloyd.
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I would be playing Lloyd, Lennon and Rioli permanent F50 with Jack, Vickery and a resting mid in Lids/Martin.
Rioli is a project. Lennon is a great mid F50 prospect and really Lloyd is kicking enough goals and if he only pops up for 5mins/week but jags two goals every time I'm happy for him to stick around.
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I think Lennon has tremendous upside and hope he is selected next week.
I also think the reason we are 1-0 and not 0-1 is due to the final quarters of Lambert and Lloyd.
What's to say Lennon delivers the same or even better than Lloyd?
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I think Lennon has tremendous upside and hope he is selected next week.
I also think the reason we are 1-0 and not 0-1 is due to the final quarters of Lambert and Lloyd.
What's to say Lennon delivers the same or even better than Lloyd?
At this moment in time , I would suggest stats say Lloyd is more likely to deliver than Lennon.
Lloyd 25 goals in 21 games.
Lennon 8 goals in 16 games.
Unless my eyes were deceiving me - Lloyd won the game for Richmond by kicking 2 crucial final quarter goals on Thursday. He did it on the big stage.
I was perplexed as anyone as to why Lennon was dropped before finals last year ( and Lloyd for that matter) but the mail is he is lazy and doesn't do enough defensively.
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Why not play both
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Why not play both
I reckon we should play both .
It appears HRT is not of that mind .
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Why not play both
because you can't have two players of the same type in the team, according to HRT?
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Why not play both
because you can't have two players of the same type in the team, according to HRT?
Where specifically did I post that Al?
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notice the question mark? that means it is a question, not a statement.
you seem to be posting that lloyd and lennon are the same type of player and lennon should be playing instead of lloyd?
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Lloyd described his on-field role with the Tigers as “a mixture of everything”.
“It probably depends who we play,” he said.
“I trained hard, a lot in the pre-season on-ball, and if I have to stay at home down forward, I’ll stay at home down forward.
“Just wherever they tell me to go, I go.
“Cotch was getting a bit tired, Dusty was getting a bit tired, so I gave them a chop-out on-ball.”
It was the seventh time in Lloyd’s 21-game career with Richmond that he has kicked multiple goals in a match.
He now has a total 25 goals from those 21 games.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-25/lloyd-buoyed-tigers
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Just jag two BS goals every week and nobody will care about how crap the rest of your game is matey.
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Sam Lloyd's presser today:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-29/lloyd-press-conference-march-29
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Lloyd said the Tigers had taken confidence from overcoming the Blues despite not being at their best, and said he was pleased to contribute in a busy final term.
"I was pretty quiet and a few of the forwards were a bit quiet, but then we really needed to win it out of the midfield and get it down there for us to do our thing. It was good to get a couple of goals at the end there," he said.
After being dropped for last year's elimination final loss to North Melbourne, the 26-year-old said he was using the disappointment of missing out to push him in 2016.
"It was a long pre-season in the end and that bit of motivation helped.
"To play round one and get a bit of reward for having a good pre-season and not missing much of it was good, and to get the win and contribute a bit was a good thing, but now we've got to move
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-29/richmonds-sam-lloyd-supports-collingwood-players-over-drug-testing
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Why not play both
because you can't have two players of the same type in the team, according to HRT?
Okay, to specifically answer that question I was saying if you had to choose between either than I would "pick Lennon every day of the week" because his current output at least equals Lloyd (imv) and he has more upside given his age (also imv).
The question of playing both in the same side depends on the opposition we are playing.
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why, do you see them as the same type of player?
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Why is that relevant?
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because more often than not different types of players dont compete for spots. the two players in question would compliment each other in what they bring, so i'm trying to work out why the discussion of one over the other arises
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If he can step it up amongst the so called elite forward line we have and kick the two crucial goals that get us over the line, which he did, he's done not only his job but theirs as well.
Well done, Lloydy.
Do it again.
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because more often than not different types of players dont compete for spots. the two players in question would compliment each other in what they bring, so i'm trying to work out why the discussion of one over the other arises
Who do you think took Lennons spot in the team?
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Lennon & Lloyd played together at the back end of last year before being dropped for the EF in favour of Conca & Griffiths.
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I like seeing someone say: stuff it if you guys aren't gonna do anything and let us lose then I'm gonna win it myself. 2 crucial goals in that last quarter and you could see especially with that one where he span out of trouble that all he was thinking about was putting that ball through the goals. If he missed it would be a different story and probably cop some criticism but he slotted it. Clutch player and excels at those goals out of nothing.
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Lennon & Lloyd played together at the back end of last year before being dropped for the EF in favour of Conca & Griffiths who had hardly played a match for half a year!
E.F.A to further highlight the stupidity of the decision.
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Have been impressed and happy with Lloyd this year.
Has worked hard on hit fitness and IMO shows a lot of class with ball in hand.
Just needs to work on staying in the game and consistency but he's one of very few players who are definitely lifted this year.
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Not sold
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If & when we become a truly good list, the likes of him & Lambert should be no more than handy depth players...
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Bit rough on lambert ...
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Not sold either but he's in the same boat and blokes like Menadue. Need to keep playing him to see if he's worth keeping or build trade currency.
Rioli might be the small forward of the future but he's clearly not ready physically.
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Bit rough on lambert ...
....not really....what's he done so far apart from impersonating 2008-era Foley for one half v rebuilding Carlton?
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Not sold either but he's in the same boat and blokes like Menadue. Need to keep playing him to see if he's worth keeping or build trade currency.
Rioli might be the small forward of the future but he's clearly not ready physically.
When everyone is fit ...
And the coach takes a smaller dose of his moron pills
You can play Cotchin small forward.
With deledio. Edwards
I would like rioli in there too.
Lloyd is pretty lucky he's in the good books ahead of Lennon ...
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Bit rough on lambert ...
....not really....what's he done so far apart from impersonating 2008-era Foley for one half v rebuilding Carlton?
Not much. Lambert is short bachelor Lloyd category. I like the cut of his jib
Seems a long way off such a time when he's not required in the senior side presently
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The one thing I would like Lloyd to do more of is rove the packs. Since taking a great hanger a few weeks ago he is flying for everything and this should not be his role in the team. Crumb the packs and use foot skills to effect......cant do that when flying for pack marks constantly. I like what he is providing us this year with improved endurance :clapping
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The one thing I would like Lloyd to do more of is rove the packs. Since taking a great hanger a few weeks ago he is flying for everything and this should not be his role in the team. Crumb the packs and use foot skills to effect......cant do that when flying for pack marks constantly. I like what he is providing us this year with improved endurance :clapping
he actually plays the hit up/lead up fwd role that the spuds vickery/griff should be playing but are too lazy and stupid to position themselves correctly: ie a kick and half down field to give yourself some space to lead into or a kick downfield at most when its extra congested in our def 50 and you should "know" a quick kick out of the pack is the likely play. But those 2 stufftards have no footy IQ and for some unbeknownst reason our fwd coach(whoever the stuff he is) doesnt seem to be doing anything to rectify this.
So he and dimma are either 1. happy for loyd to play that role(lol) or
2. They want vickery and griff to play it and "coach them each week about it but they dont comply, in which case the coach is a moron anyway for allowing them to get away with it
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Hayden ballenyte said he was was a very good mark as a junior
But it's been coached ou of him for te good on the team. So he crumbs and the big guys go for marks
It almost worked too freo were not far if a far
Why is Dimma playing Lloyd a a key forward like he's said several times?
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Because apart from Jack the others are crud?
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Because apart from Jack the others are crud?
We drafted a lead up forward in 2013 with our first pick but we either play him in our backline or in the twos.
Something to do with not being able to defend to well. Makes senses doesn't it.
Just on Sam Lloyd, the last two weeks he has gone back to what he was doing last season. He needs to get on his bike and hit the packs and not try and be on those packs.
A little bit of "me, me, me" in the last couple of weeks IMO.
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Because apart from Jack the others are crud?
We drafted a lead up forward in 2013 with our first pick but we either play him in our backline or in the twos.
Something to do with not being able to defend to well. Makes senses doesn't it.
Just on Sam Lloyd, the last two weeks he has gone back to what he was doing last season. He needs to get on his bike and hit the packs and not try and be on those packs.
A little bit of "me, me, me" in the last couple of weeks IMO.
Lennon. ??? Edwards / rioli. / c Ellis.
Cotchin. Jack. Deledio.
Get josh Jenkins :pray
Not sure where Lloyd and short fit in
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I've said it before.
Much improved. Having a great season and very dangerous around the sticks. Plays a very good lead up role for a small forward.
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Here's the vision of THAT matchwinning goal :veryhappy:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-05-14/round-8-lloyds-matchwinner-after-the-siren
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1405_RICHvSYD-MR.jpg)
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"It's something you dream of as a kid. Thank god it went through!"
"It was the only one I connected with all night!"
"I knew how long there was because I just came off the bench, so I had fresh legs too"
"It really was a team effort, I just put the cream on top I guess"
- Sam Lloyd after his match-winning goal.
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/game-day-richmond-v-sydney-at-the-mcg--3aw-radio-20160514-gov7q9.html
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Pretty unreal actually with that pressure to dob it from there!!!
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His kick split the middle. Deserves credit for performing under pressure
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Here's the vision of THAT matchwinning goal :veryhappy :
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-05-14/round-8-lloyds-matchwinner-after-the-siren (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-05-14/round-8-lloyds-matchwinner-after-the-siren)
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1405_RICHvSYD-MR.jpg)
Can someone tell me what Griff says to Lloyd as he is about to take his kick?
Lloyd mentions it after the siren talking to Ling at about 1:54 in.
:cheers
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Something along the lines of
"Take 3 deep breaths, go through your routine" Pretty much the gist of it
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Lennon is spewing
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Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
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Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
best 22 for some time now ...
earned his spot well done
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Lennon is spewing
Certainly showing the kid what hard work can achieve with only half the attributes.
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Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
best 22 for some time now ...
earned his spot well done
He will get better as he becomes fitter. His body shape is changing so i would suggest next year he could become something special.
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Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
best 22 for some time now ...
earned his spot well done
He will get better as he becomes fitter. His body shape is changing so i would suggest next year he could become something special.
Could we have TWO crafty small forwards in couple of years :gobdrop
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Something along the lines of
"Take 3 deep breaths, go through your routine" Pretty much the gist of it
Griff showing a bit of leadership.
Good to see.
:cheers
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Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
best 22 for some time now ...
earned his spot well done
He will get better as he becomes fitter. His body shape is changing so i would suggest next year he could become something special.
Could we have TWO crafty small forwards in couple of years :gobdrop
Three with Butler.......four next year with Matera.... :shh
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His kick split the middle. Deserves credit for performing under pressure
Not many could handle the pressure.......well done young man :clapping
Don't tell Halfstep.....but it could just be that he has the kind of temperament that you need in finals.... :shh
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Has improved out of sight of his year as he has finally got some conditioning into his body.
To think he was on the scrap heap and ready to be axed if Treloar had come to us. Just shows our FD have little idea about talent as they give extension contracts to Hunt and possibly Chaplin.... :whistle
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Has improved out of sight of his year as he has finally got some conditioning into his body.
To think he was on the scrap heap and ready to be axed if Treloar had come to us. Just shows our FD have little idea about talent as they give extension contracts to Hunt and possibly Chaplin.... :whistle
Really? When was that the case?
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Three with Butler.......four next year with Matera.... :shh
Gee I hope Butler turns out half as good as you and that other blob make me think he's going to be :shh
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:shh
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pee off grigg and you could find out
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Lloydy missed out on even a 'goal of the week' nomination.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/sam-lloyd-misses-out-on-goal-of-the-year-nomination-after-friday-night-matchwinner/news-story/5f85a154ec03f834608f1473fe8a68f8
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Lloydy missed out on even a 'goal of the week' nomination.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/sam-lloyd-misses-out-on-goal-of-the-year-nomination-after-friday-night-matchwinner/news-story/5f85a154ec03f834608f1473fe8a68f8
That's because he has already won goal of the year!!
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Tenacious Tiger midfielder Anthony Miles spoke in glowing terms about Lloyd’s overall 2016 output.
“I think he’s been fantastic this year,” Miles said on 3AW.
“In a tough start to the year for us, he’s been consistently playing some really good footy . . .
“It’s a testament to him and the work he’s done. He’s probably one of the hardest workers at the Club . . .
“He’s got himself in a really good position, and he’s reaping the rewards from it now.”
Lloyd, 26, has played 28 games of senior league football all-up for Richmond and kicked 38 goals.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-19/lloyd-on-the-rise
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According to Jon Pierik on Footyology tonight:
Sam Lloyd is out of contract and he and his manager want to get a new deal done sooner rather than later. However, Richmond want to put off talks until later on in the season.
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Cough trade value
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Great.
Probably the best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt (F me I know) and we wanna trade the kid?
He's the mid/short lead-up forward we've been looking for. Once Rioli gets some meat on him we'll only be short another decent tall forward and we'll have something resembling a friggin forward line...
AND HE WANTS TO STAY TOO
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Great.
Probably the best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt (F me I know) and we wanna trade the kid?
He's the mid/short lead-up forward we've been looking for. Once Rioli gets some meat on him we'll only be short another decent tall forward and we'll have something resembling a friggin forward line...
AND HE WANTS TO STAY TOO
He's one of our few players that worth anything ...
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Right now he's probably the next best expendable player after Edwards.
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Great.
Probably the best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt (F me I know) and we wanna trade the kid?
He's the mid/short lead-up forward we've been looking for. Once Rioli gets some meat on him we'll only be short another decent tall forward and we'll have something resembling a friggin forward line...
AND HE WANTS TO STAY TOO
He's one of our few players that worth anything ...
I think we'd get something useful for Houli, Vickery, B. Ellis, Lennon.
Then something less useful for McBean, Astbury.
Trade for picks, trade multiple picks for bigger picks to teams with academies.
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Lloyd is very likeable and has obviously been a natural forward from day one which is also nice. He's a much better overall package he's fit and not fat now
However when everyone is fit you could play deledio or cotchin in that role an get an improvement ?
Is Lennon a better prospect ? (If te coach and development were less dumb). It's interesting you'd prefer Lloyd over Lennon. Fair enough, but lennon a hardly been given a good run at it.
Short is in trouble
Sell Houli to gws as the halal Heath shaw
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Great.
Probably the best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt (F me I know) and we wanna trade the kid?
He's the mid/short lead-up forward we've been looking for. Once Rioli gets some meat on him we'll only be short another decent tall forward and we'll have something resembling a friggin forward line...
AND HE WANTS TO STAY TOO
Who said we wanted to trade him?
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Great.
Probably the best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt (F me I know) and we wanna trade the kid?
He's the mid/short lead-up forward we've been looking for. Once Rioli gets some meat on him we'll only be short another decent tall forward and we'll have something resembling a friggin forward line...
AND HE WANTS TO STAY TOO
Who said we wanted to trade him?
Nobody, it's just a melodramatic response to conjecture...
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I guess that's pretty standard round here... carry on
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Sign him for 5 years and try him in the back pocket?
Seriously though he is good, provides a great option
And has a bit of go, I think 2 years is fair.
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I guess the only thing that freaks me out is that we have a solid looking player here and I don't trust this list management team to get it right if they trade him out.
Personally I think they should all lose their jobs.
Like Lloyd. Good skills, brave, kicks goals takes a mark etc
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I guess the only thing that freaks me out is that we have a solid looking player here and I don't trust this list management team to get it right if they trade him out.
Welcome to the party ...
Punch over there, sandwiches on the table
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I would consider trading him as he potentially has trade value now. Lids will ultimately move forward if the club gets its midfield recruitment/development together. We already have Sheds (who i rate higher than lloyd and we have a rioli in the ranks. I do like lloyd but we cant keep them all and if it means we can get an improved pick to add midfield depth i would go down that path.
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There's clearly a lot of people who try to hard to think out of the square.
I see moving Lloyd on as just ridiculous banter.
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Ordinary Richmond player having a little purple patch. Seen this movie a few times before, know how it ends.
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Ordinary Richmond player having a little purple patch. Seen this movie a few times before, know how it ends.
Beg to differ. I've seen sustained improvement and increased fitness over his time at RFC. Won't ever be a world beater but I think he's worth 30-40 goals/year and can maintain that.
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4th round draft pick , taken at pick 66. Has singlehandedly won two games for Richmond this year.
I think under the circumstances we have struck gold.
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Ordinary Richmond player having a little purple patch. Seen this movie a few times before, know how it ends.
So why keep watching it?
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sometimes we as supporters forget we're not on football manager. Dioc Im a fan of your work but on this and shed I think you're way off. Think about it - what would this guy be worth if garlett went for pick 60odd? we wouldnt get much better than that - for the output he gives us vs what we'd get for him we're better off keeping him and enjoying the spoils while they last
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You could be surprise what someone is willing to give for him
More so if his form keeps up
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please enough with the fairy land stuff bents
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Ordinary Richmond player having a little purple patch. Seen this movie a few times before, know how it ends.
So why keep watching it?
Is Lloyd our only player is he?
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Melksham pick 25
Townsend 2nd rounder
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On track to kick 40 goals this season if he doesn't get injured.
Never get rid of players that convert when going for goal,they win you games.
Conversion rate.
Sammy 78.3%
Jack 63.2%
Miles going at 87.5% this year.
conversion stats (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_goal_kickers?year=2016&sort=accuracy&type=T/)
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Tryone was 2nd best in the league last season ... 78%
70 % the year previous
Would you apply same argument for vickery ?
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Tryone was 2nd best in the league last season ... 78%
70 % the year previous
Would you apply same argument for vickery ?
Ty's a gun in front of goals but his work ethic when his opponent has the ball is shizen.
To blame Ty is the fools way out, blame lies squarely at double stardards Hardwick's feet.
And I if the right pick was available and he left I'd have no problem with him leaving because he won't improve under Hardwick.
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Tryone was 2nd best in the league last season ... 78%
70 % the year previous
Would you apply same argument for vickery ?
Ty's a gun in front of goals but his work ethic when his opponent has the ball is shizen.
To blame Ty is the fools way out, blame lies squarely at double stardards Hardwick's feet.
And I if the right pick was available and he left I'd have no problem with him leaving because he won't improve under Hardwick.
Hit. Nail. Head. :clapping
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Woah wait, we can't blame Ty for being a lazy sud? So as long as selection committee keep playing him we have to accept it?
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a fair few do accept it..
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a fair few do accept it..
I'll take your word for it
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Sam Lloyd has joined an elite goalkicking group at Richmond in the early part of his AFL playing career.
With 21 goals in 12 appearances this season, Lloyd now has a combined total of 44 from his 32 league games.
There are only three players during the Tigers’ history over the past quarter-century, who have scored more goals than Lloyd in their first 32 games – Matthew Richardson (87 goals), Mitch Morton (66) and Nathan Brown (60).
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-06-21/lloyd-in-rarefied-richmond-air
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For mine I think Sam Lloyd has been pretty good. He is 'frisky' around goal, chases, plays tall and has some moxy.
He is a keeper for my money.
Opinions?
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For mine I think Sam Lloyd has been pretty good. He is 'frisky' around goal, chases, plays tall and has some moxy.
He is a keeper for my money.
Opinions?
Definite keeper for me.
News lately was that RFC is holding off on giving him a new contract. I really hope they do and don't trade him. Like I said, best forward we've drafted since Riewoldt...
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For mine I think Sam Lloyd has been pretty good. He is 'frisky' around goal, chases, plays tall and has some moxy.
He is a keeper for my money.
Opinions?
Agree. Has improved his fitness and is a touch faster having shed weight. One of the very few players that have improved since last year.
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Outside the top 5 players
I would keep
Wouldn't be on much dollars so keep
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Over the years, lots of players have stood out for one season.
Let's see him hold his current level for more than 5 minutes
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In a disappointing season this bloke has been a real positive.
On track for a 40 goal season . Better than anything Vickery or Griffiths has dished up.
The goal he kicked on the weekend was Daicos like .
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I like Lloyd.
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Nothing wrong with that
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Over the years, lots of players have stood out for one season.
Let's see him hold his current level for more than 5 minutes
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Over the years, lots of players have stood out for one season.
Let's see him hold his current level for more than 5 minutes
Getting better.
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Over the years, lots of players have stood out for one season.
Let's see him hold his current level for more than 5 minutes
But it has been longer than 5 minutes. He has been our most improved player all year. He can at least kick a goal more often than most of his teammates.
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Can see Lloydy bobbing up and dobbing a few in a prelim
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Can see Lloydy bobbing up and dobbing a few in a prelim
What, so now you wanna draft him !?
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Can see Lloydy bobbing up and dobbing a few in a prelim
What, so now you wanna draft him !?
Huh? Did I not want to draft him? I cant remember.
Either way, I think this is one RFC got right?
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Why is hardwick to thick to playennon as Lloyd together?
There is 22 spots FFs
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Why is hardwick to thick to playennon as Lloyd together?
There is 22 spots FFs
The Lloyd and Lennon show would be great IMO
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Why is hardwick to thick to playennon as Lloyd together?
There is 22 spots FFs
The Lloyd and Lennon show would be great IMO
We need to recruit a McCartney obviously!
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Can see Lloydy bobbing up and dobbing a few in a prelim
What, so now you wanna draft him !?
Huh? Did I not want to draft him? I cant remember.
Either way, I think this is one RFC got right?
If u wanna see him starring in a prelim, we'll have to trade him.
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Can see Lloydy bobbing up and dobbing a few in a prelim
What, so now you wanna draft him !?
Huh? Did I not want to draft him? I cant remember.
Either way, I think this is one RFC got right?
If u wanna see him starring in a prelim, we'll have to trade him.
Oh, I getcha now.
Yep, we stink. Although I have been encouraged by some of the youth we've seen of late.
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Lloyd is easily our most improved player this year IMO.
Closely followed by J. Short. I'm really impressed with his kicking and his hardness.
George, and Markov of late have been pretty imprevsive too.
Rioli has shown glimpses but is still a long way off IMO.
I'm also looking forward to seeing what McBean can produce in the remaining 6 games. I'm still a fan and think he will be ok.
I don't want to see Marcon as I don't think he is very good. And would prefer to see Chol and Moore.
We should be aiming to see what's what but winning shouldn't be the main focus. If we win with kids, great. I'd like us to beat Collingwood and Geelong but lose the rest after pushing those sides to the end.
I'd trade Vickery, Griffiths, Conca, Ellis, Lids, Grigg, Houli and Batchelor. We need a fresh start and no better way to do it is to make some tough calls on players like that lot. I wiuldnt lose sleep over any of them leaving other than Lids who has been a star but it makes too much sense not to trade him now.
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As much as they are both nothing but teases (at best), I don't think we can lose both Vickery and Griff. Our KPF stocks are pretty low and poor as it is and at worst at least they are there and are another tall option to kick to. Saying that I'd happily pee one off and the other one can rot in the VFL if it comes to that but I'd be more comfortable knowing we at least have an option there.
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Unless of course we bring in more KPF to fill their spot
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Lloyd is easily our most improved player this year IMO.
Closely followed by J. Short. I'm really impressed with his kicking and his hardness.
George, and Markov of late have been pretty imprevsive too.
Rioli has shown glimpses but is still a long way off IMO.
I'm also looking forward to seeing what McBean can produce in the remaining 6 games. I'm still a fan and think he will be ok.
I don't want to see Marcon as I don't think he is very good. And would prefer to see Chol and Moore.
We should be aiming to see what's what but winning shouldn't be the main focus. If we win with kids, great. I'd like us to beat Collingwood and Geelong but lose the rest after pushing those sides to the end.
I'd trade Vickery, Griffiths, Conca, Ellis, Lids, Grigg, Houli and Batchelor. We need a fresh start and no better way to do it is to make some tough calls on players like that lot. I wiuldnt lose sleep over any of them leaving other than Lids who has been a star but it makes too much sense not to trade him now.
BT, insightful, but has our list management 'team :lol :banghead' be able to replace them with better options?
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Unless of course we bring in more KPF to fill their spot
I'd say we wouldn't get rid of both of them without the intention of doing so.
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Lloyd is easily our most improved player this year IMO.
Closely followed by J. Short. I'm really impressed with his kicking and his hardness.
George, and Markov of late have been pretty imprevsive too.
Rioli has shown glimpses but is still a long way off IMO.
I'm also looking forward to seeing what McBean can produce in the remaining 6 games. I'm still a fan and think he will be ok.
I don't want to see Marcon as I don't think he is very good. And would prefer to see Chol and Moore.
We should be aiming to see what's what but winning shouldn't be the main focus. If we win with kids, great. I'd like us to beat Collingwood and Geelong but lose the rest after pushing those sides to the end.
I'd trade Vickery, Griffiths, Conca, Ellis, Lids, Grigg, Houli and Batchelor. We need a fresh start and no better way to do it is to make some tough calls on players like that lot. I wiuldnt lose sleep over any of them leaving other than Lids who has been a star but it makes too much sense not to trade him now.
BT, insightful, but has our list management 'team :lol :banghead' be able to replace them with better options?
We need to at least try.
Our list is a shambles and we need to cut deep.
We still have some very good players and some decent kids coming through so if it's done right it can be turned around quickly.
Hurley needs to be our main focus. Pay what it takes!!
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Hurley needs to be our main focus. Pay what it takes!!
I agree with you and reckon they made an significant offer to his management.
but what will your reaction be if he simply says "no thanks" and turns down our offer(s). Will you whack (blame) the club or accept the Hurley decision. There is a chance we could offer him a million bucks a year and he still knocks us back to stay with Bombers.
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The club deserves everything they get. Reasons he or anyone that's half descent knocks us back is because we are a basket case.
Might end up with Prestia Conca woopty doo
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Unless of course we bring in more KPF to fill their spot
I'd say we wouldn't get rid of both of them without the intention of doing so.
You'd hope so but you never know with this stuffin club.
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Relax.
We have an iceberg they've been hiding.
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First the titanic, next Hawthorn :shh
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Hurley needs to be our main focus. Pay what it takes!!
I agree with you and reckon they made an significant offer to his management.
but what will your reaction be if he simply says "no thanks" and turns down our offer(s). Will you whack (blame) the club or accept the Hurley decision. There is a chance we could offer him a million bucks a year and he still knocks us back to stay with Bombers.
It's hard not knowing what our offer to him has been but I would expect they keep raising it till he changes his mind.
If our offer is the same as the Bombers and any other club, why would he choose us. Our offer needs to blow away the other clubs offers. It's a business and it needs to be treated as a business deal. We cannot worry about what Cotch or Dusty are getting paid compared to our offer to Hurley. IMO we spend far to much time not wanting to hurt people's feelings as a club.
Offer him the captaincy, offer him a coaching roll after footy is finished, offer his sister a night with Dusty, but play dirty like the Collingwoods of this world do. Eddie is a lot of things but he makes things happen. We need to be ruthless!!
With hopefully Vickery and Griff being traded out we could pay Hurley a mil easy over the next 5 years. Forget about Prestia get Hurley signed first and then see what's what. The other reason we can afford to pay him overs is because he is free in terms of draft picks. That has got to be worth paying extra for.
Just think if we could get Hurley for nothing, keep our first pick (hopefully a top 5 pick), trade out an injured and aging Lids for another top 10 pick, trade out Griff and Vickery for picks in the late teens early 20's, swap Conca for Longer, and also trade BEllis, Houli and Grigg out and get in some quality kids we can turn this thing around pretty quickly.
So it looks something like this- Hurley, pick 5 (our pick), pick 7 (Lids), pick 18 (Griff), pick 23 (our pick), pick 25 (Vickery), Longer, pick 27 (BEllis) , pick 40 (Houli), pick 41 (our pick) and pick pick 50 (Grigg)
I'd even trade a few more for potential top 20 picks- Lennon and Edwards.
But to answer your question, yes I will blame the club. It has promised us all so much but delivered nothing, it's time for no more excuses and it's time to get it done NO MATTER WHAT!
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WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT
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WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT
That was my point, thanks Chucky
As an example every man and his dog knew a number of clubs offered Dangerfield lots more money than Geelong but he said No
Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything
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WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT
That was my point, thanks Chucky
As an example every man and his dog knew a number of clubs offered Dangerfield lots more money than Geelong but he said No
Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything
I think I answered your question.
Without knowing every detail and obviously that isn't going to happen, I would assume the RFC has failed again. It's pretty easy to imagine too by the way just going off past experiences.
What if he goes to St. Kilda or The Doggies, would you still think we did everything we could to have got him??
Using the Dangerfield example is a little different IMO. He left Adelaide to go home which may as well be in another state if it's Geelong.
Hurley will be leaving to get away from the Bombers... and for a better deal.
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Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything
Darling, sometimes it can't buy you anything :-*
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Wasn't it ten years ago or there abouts we had 5 picks in the top 20 including 2 in the top 4, what's the chance of 1 out of 5 again - drafting is a big gamble
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offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
He is the saviour, not just a naughty boy!!!!!
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offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
He is the saviour, not just a naughty boy!!!!!
hurley?
delist grigg houli hampson chaplin yarren? morris and thats ample money
whats the point loading up on potatoes when you can only have 18 on the ground at once . list blockers is not stability nor depth
flags are won from the back rance and hurley is a good start
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Chaplin has retired effective immediately Bents, whilst delisting him would be heart warming I don't think you can after he has retired
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Chaplin has retired effective immediately Bents, whilst delisting him would be heart warming I don't think you can after he has retired
:lol
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offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
He is the saviour, not just a naughty boy!!!!!
hurley?
delist grigg houli hampson chaplin yarren? morris and thats ample money
whats the point loading up on potatoes when you can only have 18 on the ground at once . list blockers is not stability nor depth
flags are won from the back rance and hurley is a good start
thats what im saying.
lets have a list of 25 players and we can pay hurly half our salary cap. premiership would be in the bag
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it is almost like this place is like a flexible think tank that just excretes ideas!
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Lloydy is playing his 50th tonight.
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Needs to be dropped
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Needs to be delisted.
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Needs to be delisted.
Agree. Im :o
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Lloydy is playing his 50th tonight.
...and hopefully his last....
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What a fall from grace. Would like to see how he goes if he didn't have to play as our second tall half the time
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Swing away for mental health
By Sam Lloyd
aflplayers.com.au
12 Feb 2018
I vividly remember the phone call.
On the way to footy training with the Frankston Dolphins in early 2013, I noticed a few missed calls from one of my mates. After listening to the strange voicemail, I called him back while entering the club’s change rooms.
There is no way to sugar-coat it, our friend Kurt had ended his own life.
I told the coach, jumped in the car and headed to Melbourne for what was the worst drive I have experienced. I spent most of it crying while wondering how my mate could’ve been struggling so much and how I missed it.
I’d only spoken to him a couple of days before, when he seemed his usual knockabout self, but he was clearly battling inside to feel that suicide was his only option.
The lives of Kurt’s family and friends were completely rocked and I was struggling to comprehend losing a friend. Footy was the least of my concerns, although I attempted to get back out on the field, my mind was elsewhere and the game didn’t ease my pain.
Like so many others who cared for Kurt, the following weeks and months presented reminders of him all over the place; drives in the car reminded me of our trip from Darwin to Melbourne when we were 19, and song lyrics raised memories of happier times enjoying life together while boarding at Geelong Grammar. I still get these reminders today.
It wasn’t until I spoke with family and sought some professional help of my own that I began the steady process of moving on. Eventually, my footy got back on track and I somehow found a way to get drafted by the Tigers by the end of the year, something I know my mate Kurt would be proud of, even if he was a Bombers supporter.
Losing a close mate is the hardest thing our friendship group have endured, and a few friends felt the need to do something special to honour Kurt’s memory. In doing so, Jon Taylor, Ollie Robertson and Christian Habla, who were all close to Kurt, started a small gathering as a means get together to talk and play some golf.
Eventually, it evolved into Mood Swing, the registered fundraiser we see today.
Mood Swing is an annual event where more than 140 people get together, play some golf, tennis or do some life drawing followed by a dinner party with some live music and guest speakers in order to raise much needed funds and awareness in the mental health area.
It began in late 2014, where we hosted a fundraiser and donated $11,000 to Smiling Minds, followed by a $20,000 donation to The Black Dog Institute and the Jesuit Society’s Support After Suicide in 2016.
Last year, we were able to raise $30,000 for The Black Dog Institute and Headspace Geelong. We were also lucky enough to receive a $5,000 sum from the Richmond playing group through the AFL Players Care program.
This year, we’re keen to get as many people there as possible. The event will be held on Sunday, February 18 at the beautiful Werribee Park and there’ll be plenty of activities to enjoy.
Mood Swing aims to encourage community connectedness, start conversations about mental illness and wellbeing and raise funds for organisations within the mental health space.
We’d love to see as many faces as possible. While it’s extremely saddening that a close friend had to go through what he did for this great cause to be created, if we can grow and raise some awareness of the battles so many face, that can be Kurt’s legacy.
Mood Swing’s 2018 event will be held on Sunday, February 18 at Werribee Park from 3pm to 10pm. Click here to buy tickets and help bring mental health out of the shadows.
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lloyd stays after tonights game.
Was really important when it mattered and laid a fair few tackles as well
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lloyd stays after tonights game.
Was really important when it mattered and laid a fair few tackles as well
Agree thought he was good
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Did his trade value no harm..... :shh
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Gotta love a bloke like Lloyd he never gives up. Reckon he went alright