One-Eyed Richmond Forum

Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 26, 2013, 06:34:23 PM

Title: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2013, 06:34:23 PM
Tigers eye delisted Lion Banfield

Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 26, 2013 6:00 PM


RICHMOND has expressed interest in recruiting Brisbane Lions small forward Todd Banfield at Wednesday's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
 
The Lions delisted Banfield earlier this month but committed to redrafting him as a rookie, however the Tigers are believed to be keen on the small forward.
 
The Lions are considering their position on the 23-year-old, given the club's first pick in the rookie draft comes before Richmond's.
 
The Tigers have one spare spot on their senior list and hold a pre-season draft selection, but are likely to head into the season with a shorter primary list.
 
Banfield didn't play a game for the Lions in 2013, but has kicked 57 goals from his 53 games for the club.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-26/tigers-eye-delisted-lion
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 26, 2013, 07:19:44 PM
He'd be available after the rookie draft for peel thunder  :banghead
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: bojangles17 on November 26, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Geez we ve gone overboard on FP, if this comes off, hard to believe he wasn't in bris best 22 , he looked like being anything 3 years ago :shh
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 26, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
White replacement. Runs like the wind. Can't kick.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: blaisee on November 26, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
Hope we take him
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 26, 2013, 08:12:54 PM
I think we are trying to spook Brisbane into picking him with their first pick as they are probably eying of the same players as us which allows us to take first pick of the those.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 26, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
> thomas
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 26, 2013, 09:00:46 PM
I hope we take him and not that lonergan spud

We have next to no smells(kings almost done) so can't hurt

Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on November 26, 2013, 09:10:22 PM
if chasing a mature forward id like to see us give a bloke like ryan lester smith a go or a kid like  ben sokal.
but why are we chasing sml forwards.

king lloyd mcdonough s edwards not enough or maybe just not good enough. if they are happy with who they have they dont need to chase another.
geez then you have to fit in mediums ohanlon, a edwards, petterd, knights  and gordon bloody hell no wonder im laughing my head off at all the excuses.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 26, 2013, 09:12:33 PM
if chasing a mature forward id like to see us give a bloke like ryan lester smith a go or a kid like  ben sokal.

computer says no
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 26, 2013, 09:29:00 PM
Lester smith isn't available.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on November 26, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Lester smith isn't available.
yes he is. if freo dont take him as a f/a he can be taken. they will have to nominate him before the rookie draft.

what i dont get is the love for banfield. why do people fall in love with players who are nothing but quick. fair dinkum lloyd is a much better player  and lo and behold is a sml forward.
i can see it now thomas and banfield and the rot will continue to set in.

why are we so keen on a bloke who cant find the ball doesnt actually kick a lot of goals and who imo has poor foot skills. but wait he runs real quick.
its funny im lambasted by just about everyone here but i at least stick to some pretty basic principals. not the least demanding a basic skill requirement.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 26, 2013, 10:10:02 PM
Freo already nominated him.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Smokey on November 27, 2013, 09:53:38 AM
I think we are trying to spook Brisbane into picking him with their first pick as they are probably eying of the same players as us which allows us to take first pick of the those.

Lol.  Thought the same thing myself.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
Welcome  Todd   :)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Official RD Pick 1: Tiges take delisted Lion Todd Banfield
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:18:47 AM
Well the eyes have it

Banfield to the Tigers with our first rookie draft pick  ;D
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
worse than addam maric, possibly the worst kick in the comp and has stuff all decision making skills

DELIST FJ the stuffing stupid silly
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Stripes on November 27, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
Any highlight video?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 11:27:34 AM
 :chuck
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 27, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Give the guy chance in the yellow and black!

I hope he makes all of you eat humble pie!!!
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
Any highlight video?
Here you go Stripes ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-27/2013-rookie-draft-pick-11-todd-banfield
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Rampstar on November 27, 2013, 11:41:23 AM
Not a bad selection for a rookie.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/063/Picture_2_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:42:48 AM
Todd Banfield

(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/251614-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)

Age: 23
Height: 183cm
Weight: 83kg

Debut: 2010
Games: 53
Goals: 57

Recruited originally from: Swan Districts

-----------------------------------------

Banfield booted 27 goals in the 2010 season, and followed that up with 24 goals the following year.

Injury problems, however, restricted him to just 12 senior appearances and six goals for Brisbane in 2012.

He subsequently spent the entire 2013 season with Brisbane’s reserve-grade side in the NEAFL.

The Tigers believe Banfield can provide them with a valuable option up forward due to his blistering pace, attack on the ball, hard tackling and goalkicking ability.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-27/2013-rookie-draft-pick-11-todd-banfield
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2013, 12:01:26 PM
Welcome Todd, you have some work to do to prove the habitual knockers and whiners wrong, hope you can do it!!!
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: dwaino on November 27, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
More rangas  :clapping
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 12:04:36 PM
Welcome Todd, you have some work to do to prove the habitual knockers and whiners wrong, hope you can do it!!!

you need to respect yourself more mate
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2013, 12:05:29 PM
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: crannyvegas on November 27, 2013, 12:13:53 PM
Thank god, I thought we were gonna miss our annual red head pick up.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 12:22:50 PM
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2013, 12:40:02 PM
got pretty hair
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
 :yep :yep :dancing
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle

 :dancing :yep
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 01:10:33 PM
Could have been worse. Cam Wood.  :lol :lol :lol Let it go Mick, let it go.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tiga on November 27, 2013, 01:30:57 PM
Banfield was recruited as firewood for those cold winter nights  :shh

We had a need and the club fulfilled it  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2013, 01:50:05 PM
Could have been worse. Cam Wood.  :lol :lol :lol Let it go Mick, let it go.

Im a bit surprised we didn't get another ruckman
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Stripes on November 27, 2013, 01:50:52 PM
Any highlight video?
Here you go Stripes ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-27/2013-rookie-draft-pick-11-todd-banfield

Cheers OE! :cheers
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 27, 2013, 01:51:08 PM
White replacement. Runs like the wind. Can't kick.

White could kick. (At goal)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 01:53:37 PM
:yep :yep :dancing
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle

 :dancing :yep

haha i can just imagine you after a couple of bintang's, lips hanging low under your grass skirt, swinging those hips  :lol
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Smokey on November 27, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Could have been worse. Cam Wood.  :lol :lol :lol Let it go Mick, let it go.

Im a bit surprised we didn't get another ruckman

Can you imagine Claw's reaction if we had taken Cam Wood?    :damnpc
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tony_montana on November 27, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
Could have been worse. Cam Wood.  :lol :lol :lol Let it go Mick, let it go.

Im a bit surprised we didn't get another ruckman

Can you imagine Claw's reaction if we had taken Cam Wood?    :damnpc


Not so sure abt that smokey, I reckon he would've been  :huh3 bc he wouldn't know whether to :damnpc bc its another mature age recruit or whether to  :dancing bc we filled a list need  ;D

Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Coach on November 27, 2013, 02:48:25 PM
Welcome Todd, you have some work to do to prove the habitual knockers and whiners wrong, hope you can do it!!!

you need to respect yourself more mate

:lol
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2013, 02:48:29 PM
:yep :yep :dancing
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle

 :dancing :yep

haha i can just imagine you after a couple of bintang's, lips hanging low under your grass skirt, swinging those hips  :lol

Lips?????? Mate if I hit you over the head with it you would see more than stars.. ;D
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 02:49:39 PM
:yep :yep :dancing
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle

 :dancing :yep

haha i can just imagine you after a couple of bintang's, lips hanging low under your grass skirt, swinging those hips  :lol

Lips?????? Mate if I hit you over the head with it you would see more than stars.. ;D

 :lol put it away mate
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 27, 2013, 02:51:29 PM
:yep :yep :dancing
DUD

FO Richmond  :banghead

 :whistle ::)

can you sing? because you sure can't whistle

 :dancing :yep

haha i can just imagine you after a couple of bintang's, lips hanging low under your grass skirt, swinging those hips  :lol

Lips?????? Mate if I hit you over the head with it you would see more than stars.. ;D

 :lol put it away mate

 ;)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Diocletian on November 27, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ft7O4MzlbVw/TjCsRM2rRFI/AAAAAAAAASY/wdMzEkiGsIs/s400/bottom2Bof2Bbarrel.jpg)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Rodgerramjet on November 27, 2013, 03:43:37 PM
Happy with this pick, nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2013, 03:52:23 PM
2008

Quote
AFL National Draft, Round 3, Pick No. 41

TODD BANFIELD - Medium midfielder
Date of birth: 28 June 1990
Height: 181.9cm
Weight: 74.8kg
Club: Swan Districts (WA)

Incredibly quick and aggressive medium-sized midfielder who uses his turn of pace to break games open (2.87sec for 20m). Has the ability to win ball at contested situations and displays neat skills by foot.


Draft Profile

Banfield is a very quick midfielder from Swan Districts who has solid skills on both sides of his body. He is very hard at the contest and some would say an old fashioned footballer. He has clean hands and is really capable at breaking the lines with his brilliant pace. He provided very good defensive pressure for Swan Districts this year, utilising his pace effectively.
Draft Profile

No. 41 TODD BANFIELD: (Swan Districts, WAFL) 18, 182cm (5'11"), 75kg (165): has played some senior WAFL football and was one of the best on ground in the WAFL Grand Final. A speedy midfielder who attacks the ball well.


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/todd-banfield.521637/


2013

less positive

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-banfield-conundrum.970367/


*at least he's fast
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 27, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
The big banana field  :clapping
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Dice on November 27, 2013, 04:21:13 PM
Todd Banfield !!  Cool , now I can take my new bumper sticker to the footy with me >>

(http://yay.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/I-love-spuds-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Diocletian on November 27, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
At least he has an appropriate name - they should ban field kicking by him for being a crime against football.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 04:40:08 PM
not even good at FIFA
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: eliminator on November 27, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
Is he an improvement on Nahas?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: yellowandback on November 27, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
Banfield was recruited as firewood for those cold winter nights  :shh

We had a need and the club fulfilled it  :thumbsup

In a sea of irrelevant posts, there is this piece of pure gold.
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: MintOnLamb on November 27, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
FMS IMHO why can't you lot be +ive about something
(M = mercies)
You are the biggest bunch of whiners whingers on the planet.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Chuck17 on November 27, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
FMS IMHO why can't you lot be +ive about something
(M = mercies)
You are the biggest bunch of whiners whingers on the planet.

Are you whining about people whining?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: dwaino on November 27, 2013, 05:48:15 PM
FMS IMHO why can't you lot be +ive about something
(M = mercies)
You are the biggest bunch of whiners whingers on the planet.

Are you whining about people whining?

A double negative equals a positive.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 08:42:17 PM
White replacement. Runs like the wind. Can't kick.

White could kick. (At goal)
only when he's sober!!
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 27, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
Where's claw? I want his thoughts now
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: bojangles17 on November 27, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
Can seriously kick a goal this kid and boy can he run, pretty shrewd pick ups by the tiges , more than compliments where whitey left off ...could be a surprise packet  :shh
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 27, 2013, 09:37:31 PM
Locked and loaded ?  :banghead
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on November 28, 2013, 12:33:28 AM
Where's claw? I want his thoughts now
on what.
i reckon my thoughts are there for all to see before and during the trade draft period.

on the rookie selections.

1/ did we go thru the right process. imo yes we took mature players where they should be taken.

2/ did we take the right type of mature players who tick enough boxes and meet enough criteria.  imo no but hey we all have differing opinions on the merits of players and what boxes they should tick.

3/ did we address in any significant way important  list needs.  imo no.

its almost as if we have drafted to make the ressies side competetive rather than drafting for list needs and trying to take the best talent available.
i can think of at least 5 or 6 younger players id prefer we  gave a go to.  but i suppose that is a preference thing.


im still asking what have we addressed as far as needs go. geez atm all can come up with is the sml/med forward dilemma and we have addressed it with what. did we target one high quality forward.

we took a ruckman and  it had to be done but again what did we target. was it a quality player or one who has battled even longer to establish himself than the many mature players we took.

ah opinions, just like arse holes  we all have em.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Willy on November 28, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
I mean geez, you guys. List needs, you guys. Geez.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Dice on November 28, 2013, 11:27:40 AM
its almost as if we have drafted to make the ressies side competetive rather than drafting for list needs and trying to take the best talent available.

 :clapping

100% agree
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 28, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
Banfield isn't going to make any side better so you are both wrong
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WA Tiger on November 28, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
Very good pick up this... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Diocletian on November 28, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
its almost as if we have drafted to make the ressies side competetive rather than drafting for list needs and trying to take the best talent available.

 :clapping

100% agree
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 28, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
I don't mind the richmond-vfl*champions strategy
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Diocletian on November 28, 2013, 02:52:41 PM
I would've thought if you kept attending to list needs and taking the best available, your entire list would improve anyway as you'd have better players and good depth in every position.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 28, 2013, 03:08:46 PM
It would just be nice to win something
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Stripes on November 28, 2013, 03:16:19 PM
its almost as if we have drafted to make the ressies side competetive rather than drafting for list needs and trying to take the best talent available.

 Yes I think there was a bit of that if not as the first priority then certainly as a secondary focus. Probably trying to develop what we have and build up a strong culture of competition across both teams. Depth over potential.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Golfprotiger on November 28, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
Does anyone know why he didn't get a run at Brisbane this year?

He seemed to get a run a couple of years back.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on November 28, 2013, 09:33:15 PM
Because he's brown mr whippy
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: dwaino on November 28, 2013, 10:04:05 PM
Does anyone know why he didn't get a run at Brisbane this year?

He seemed to get a run a couple of years back.

Don't hold me to it but I think Zorko pushed him out. Or if not Zorko directly the addition of Zorko caused them to reshuffle and out he went.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 28, 2013, 10:05:13 PM
Does anyone know why he didn't get a run at Brisbane this year?

He seemed to get a run a couple of years back.

Don't hold me to it but I think Zorko pushed him out. Or if not Zorko directly the addition of Zorko caused them to reshuffle and out he went.
I thought it was that guy Green who played the same role as Banfield.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: dwaino on November 28, 2013, 10:08:24 PM
Does anyone know why he didn't get a run at Brisbane this year?

He seemed to get a run a couple of years back.

Don't hold me to it but I think Zorko pushed him out. Or if not Zorko directly the addition of Zorko caused them to reshuffle and out he went.
I thought it was that guy Green who played the same role as Banfield.

You could be right. I know Green had a ripper in the NAB cup final and probably earned brownie points for the season. They also had that Berwick or whatever too. Then Zorko played mid and forward.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2013, 11:29:13 PM
Banfield happy to land at Tigerland
richmondfc.com.au 
December 2, 2013


“Richmond have lost two small forwards, so I suppose it opens doors for myself and, hopefully, it works out for the best,” he said.

“I’m happy to see what I can do down there.”

Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-02/banfield-happy-to-land-at-tigerland
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Rampstar on December 03, 2013, 11:31:58 AM
Banfield happy to land at Tigerland
richmondfc.com.au 
December 2, 2013


“Richmond have lost two small forwards, so I suppose it opens doors for myself and, hopefully, it works out for the best,” he said.

“I’m happy to see what I can do down there.”

Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-02/banfield-happy-to-land-at-tigerland

I have some hope that Banfield will become a decent player for us he has pace so that gives him an opportunity. Banfield is a cheaper option than keeping Nahas and I consider Banfield a better player.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on December 03, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
we all have hope, yes even me. isnt that the problem though. we continue to take players on hope rather than properly asesing them.

how hard is it to target players based on
1/ performance over the journey. hmm he fails.

2/ type.  a forward and nothing more  fail.

3/ skills bloody hell why why why.  geez short sml players with no skills with no consistent performance  and find no bloody ball  :o :o :o :o :o but bloody hell hes quick  ::) ::) ::). oh ffs why do i bother.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Willy on December 04, 2013, 12:00:58 AM
The Snore...


 :sleep
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 04, 2013, 10:17:26 AM
we all have hope, yes even me. isnt that the problem though. we continue to take players on hope rather than properly asesing them.

how hard is it to target players based on
1/ performance over the journey. hmm he fails.

2/ type.  a forward and nothing more  fail.

3/ skills bloody hell why why why.  geez short sml players with no skills with no consistent performance  and find no bloody ball  :o :o :o :o :o but bloody hell hes quick  ::) ::) ::). oh ffs why do i bother.
Give it a break claw. We get the gist!
Come back to this topic in 12 months and either tell us that you told us so or apologize for getting it wrong.  In the end they are the only two options you'll have!
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 04, 2013, 11:11:54 AM
we all have hope, yes even me. isnt that the problem though. we continue to take players on hope rather than properly  asesing them.

But the above is only your opinion and in all honesty that is your view but that doesn't make it right or factual. That's the point here

You are basically saying that the RFC footy department, whether that be the list management committee, the full time recruiters etc do not spend not one minute on assessing players. That is simply not true

The fact that they don't select the players you want doesn't mean they are wrong, nor does it mean they are not putting the time or effort into assessing. I would argue that based on the data they have, the time spent watching these players they would know a helluva lot more than you or me.

To suggest otherwise is simply ridiculous. Clearly you don't agree with their "hows" & "whys" and that's fine it is your opinion.   

You are entitled to an opinion as we all are but to continually suggest that the club isn't assessing players and making decisions based on a criteria, the Club's criteria is wrong.




 
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Tigger on December 04, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
Couldn't agree more WP.  The recruiters definitely look at many many players and have all sorts of criteria that they take into account.

It is the problem with the "Moneyball" approach.  We are trying to find gems from other peoples discards/unloved/unappreciated stocks.

Blair Hartley and the recruiting team are doing a more than fair job.

When Maric, Houli, Grigg were recruited - they were pretty much on the fringe at their previous clubs.  I know people like to bag a couple of these guys, but in my opinion all 3 have held their own and improved our team.  All 3 have polled in the top 5 from memory in our b&f.

As for Banfield - he is a cheap rookie option. Not everyone can kick 27 goals in a season.  He did it with Brown and Fev in that 2010 Lions fwd line.

His highlights look good and he doesn't mind to tackle average 3.5 over his 53 games (only slightly behind Nahas tackle average).

Hopefully he has a better attitude than Nahas did last year.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: one-eyed on December 20, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
Richo talking about us picking up Banfield:

"He played some good games at Brisbane. I like him in the forward 50. Those sort of players are crucial now.  You have to have those guys inside your forward 50, who can get up the ground and come back. Every gun team has two or three of those little fellas inside forward 50.  Look at Fremantle, look at Geelong, you need them. I think one area where we can get better is in the crumbing and small forward area. Nothing against Kingy and Shane Edwards, who played that role really well, but it’s good to beef up that area because quick, defensive-minded small forwards are so important now."

Hear and read more at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-12-18/talking-tigers-2013-christmas-special
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-20/richo-tips-banfield-boost-for-tigers
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on December 20, 2013, 01:58:10 PM
hit the bongs hard in retirement hey cho?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: bojangles17 on December 20, 2013, 08:38:38 PM
Pretty shrewd pick up by the tigers , runs like a quarter horse and can seriously kick a goal too just quietly  :shh
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on December 20, 2013, 09:19:40 PM
we all have hope, yes even me. isnt that the problem though. we continue to take players on hope rather than properly  asesing them.

But the above is only your opinion and in all honesty that is your view but that doesn't make it right or factual. That's the point here

You are basically saying that the RFC footy department, whether that be the list management committee, the full time recruiters etc do not spend not one minute on assessing players. That is simply not true

The fact that they don't select the players you want doesn't mean they are wrong, nor does it mean they are not putting the time or effort into assessing. I would argue that based on the data they have, the time spent watching these players they would know a helluva lot more than you or me.

To suggest otherwise is simply ridiculous. Clearly you don't agree with their "hows" & "whys" and that's fine it is your opinion.   

You are entitled to an opinion as we all are but to continually suggest that the club isn't assessing players and making decisions based on a criteria, the Club's criteria is wrong.
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

to date hes a forward and nothing else. there is nothing to suggest otherwise in his history at brisbane.

to date his skills for a smal have been poor. the club is happy to ram down our throat the premise that they only take good kicks as a selection priority and then regualrly do the opposite.

to finish all im asking is what criteria are they setting. it cant be based on performance,  skills, or genuine needs because they have ignored them, yes i reckon im very entitled to question the processes they are going thru. if they claim to be doing due process they are imo doing something wrong.
i know they took him because he has pace geez he actually ticks a box. he may be a replacement for white to date hes a poor mans matt white and imo white had to go.

we in effect took a bloke who whos basically nothing but a  23yo 6th yr small forward  whos played 53 games and the majority have been poor. this goes with poor kicking skills, did we take him for his skills nope. . he has an inability to find enough ball he goes at less than 10 possesions a game, did we take him for his ball winning ability?? nope.   and for an almost exclusive forward he goes at just 1 goal a game did we take him for his goal kicking prowess ???? nope. . we did this after loading up with sml and medium sized forwards so did we take him to meet a list need????? nope.
of course they should be questioned. every single thing they do should be put under a microscope.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 20, 2013, 10:52:01 PM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less





Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on December 21, 2013, 12:12:39 AM
Yeah but what's the point
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: dwaino on December 21, 2013, 12:47:12 AM
More dribble than a game of basketball.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 21, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
Yeah but what's the point

My point is really simple to say the club has no criteria when selecting players and that they do it based on hope which is what claw said is ridiculous and absolute crap.

Clear enough?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: 1965 on December 21, 2013, 06:56:02 PM
Yeah but what's the point

My point is really simple to say the club has no criteria when selecting players and that they do it based on hope which is what claw said is ridiculous and absolute crap.

Clear enough?

WP

What exactly are you trying to say?

Try writing it on the end of a bit of 2x4.

 :lol
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 21, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
Pretty shrewd pick up by the tigers , runs like a quarter horse and can seriously kick a goal too just quietly  :shh

You say that about ever player we get. Pretty sure you said it about JON too
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 22, 2013, 08:23:59 AM
Pretty shrewd pick up by the tigers , runs like a quarter horse and can seriously kick a goal too just quietly  :shh

You say that about ever player we get. Pretty sure you said it about JON too
Nah.  He said that JON ran like a sixteenth of a horse.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Gigantor on December 22, 2013, 10:07:12 AM
HMM what did Bo say about Relton Roberts?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Gigantor on December 22, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
If I was to describe Bo the footballer and played alongside him for a few years ,it would be as follows
ran like carl lewis on steroids
kicked like a mule with bionic limbs
marked as if Pamela andersons norks were up for grabs
and delivered the pill like he was performing  lazer eye surgery.

But post match looked like keith Richards falling out of the coconut tree
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on December 22, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
hit the bongs hard in retirement hey cho?

Nah that'll be you. Richo has a point
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 22, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
hit the bongs hard in retirement hey cho?

Nah that'll be you. Richo has a point

He said that about Post too and Post was being called the new Richo. Some people have very short memories
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 22, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
You're also one with a short memory Filthy Philsy.
We finished 5th.
 ;D
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 22, 2013, 10:18:49 PM
You're also one with a short memory Filthy Philsy.
We finished 5th.
 ;D
We finished 7th
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on December 24, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
You're also one with a short memory Filthy Philsy.
We finished 5th.
 ;D
We finished 7th
yep and crumbled like a house of cards against a team that finished 9th on the ladder in the h/a and ultimately finished above us.
even when they make finals they find a way to somehow belittle the achievment.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: tigs2011 on December 25, 2013, 01:35:03 AM
How did we finish 7th and Carlton 9th? It's either 5th and 9th or 7th and 6th.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: gerkin greg on December 31, 2013, 12:37:12 PM
has this dud been delisted yet?

if not why not?
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 31, 2013, 12:57:48 PM
has this dud been delisted yet?

if not why not?
He is on his last chance.....
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Smokey on December 31, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
has this dud been delisted yet?

if not why not?
He is on his last chance.....

I heard he's just signed an extension.   :whistle
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on January 02, 2014, 12:20:08 AM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less
this thread is about banfield of course i was talking about banfield and his weaknesses which we have  ignored. cant kick cant find the ball and his performances over 6 yrs have in the main been poor. can they give us one real good redeeming attribute as to why they ignored these things or isit  they didnt even look at em. its not just banfield they have done this with either.
in this case it really does SEEM  they the club have no criteria and they took him on hope rather than properly assesing him

a fair few of my mates think he can play thats potential i suppose. but based on some pretty simple criteria which we obviously have ignored i dont think he should have been taken.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Willy on January 02, 2014, 10:26:37 AM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less
this thread is about banfield of course i was talking about banfield and his weaknesses which we have  ignored. cant kick cant find the ball and his performances over 6 yrs have in the main been poor. can they give us one real good redeeming attribute as to why they ignored these things or isit  they didnt even look at em. its not just banfield they have done this with either.
in this case it really does SEEM  they the club have no criteria and they took him on hope rather than properly assesing him

a fair few of my mates think he can play thats potential i suppose. but based on some pretty simple criteria which we obviously have ignored i dont think he should have been taken.

He's on the rookie list, bro. Untwist ya knickers.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on January 02, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less
this thread is about banfield of course i was talking about banfield and his weaknesses which we have  ignored. cant kick cant find the ball and his performances over 6 yrs have in the main been poor. can they give us one real good redeeming attribute as to why they ignored these things or isit  they didnt even look at em. its not just banfield they have done this with either.
in this case it really does SEEM  they the club have no criteria and they took him on hope rather than properly assesing him

a fair few of my mates think he can play thats potential i suppose. but based on some pretty simple criteria which we obviously have ignored i dont think he should have been taken.
FFS, as has been said, he is only a rookie!!!!!!!

Very little given away and he has a bit of X-factor about him with his speed.  Just give the club a break and hold off your criticisms until AFTER he has failed at least.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Dice on January 02, 2014, 12:01:01 PM
 Very smart move by the tiges picking up an ex premiership player from West Coast. Getting a bit long in the tooth though , turns 40 in Feb this year. Probably gonna have to use him as the sub most weeks.
 Anyhow , all the best at tigerland Drew.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: the claw on January 03, 2014, 12:14:23 AM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less
this thread is about banfield of course i was talking about banfield and his weaknesses which we have  ignored. cant kick cant find the ball and his performances over 6 yrs have in the main been poor. can they give us one real good redeeming attribute as to why they ignored these things or isit  they didnt even look at em. its not just banfield they have done this with either.
in this case it really does SEEM  they the club have no criteria and they took him on hope rather than properly assesing him

a fair few of my mates think he can play thats potential i suppose. but based on some pretty simple criteria which we obviously have ignored i dont think he should have been taken.
FFS, as has been said, he is only a rookie!!!!!!!

Very little given away and he has a bit of X-factor about him with his speed.  Just give the club a break and hold off your criticisms until AFTER he has failed at least.
weather its a rookie pick a mid range nd pick,  a first rnd pick or a mature recruit. the question should be asked. why are we continuing to take players with such obvious weakneses and poor performance records.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Judge Roughneck on January 03, 2014, 12:47:54 AM
No

The question is at each respective  pick what other available options would strengthen the list more so - in this case ban field

More so if you want to dissect it further what small fast forward
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Willy on January 03, 2014, 01:04:17 AM
so wp how does banfield rate over the journey.  poorly is the fact.  i would not have thought it was debateable. its right there for all to see.

I wasn't talking about Banfield. Never mentioned him. You don't agree worth his selection and I have no problem with that

But....l

 You made a sweeping statement  saying the club "continues to take players on hope rather than properly assessing them"

I was simply replying to that saying that you were stating it as some sort of fact when it was only your opinion based more so on them not selecting players you approved of. It's your opinion and as I said  you are entitled to

I have no problem with you or anyone questioning them but to suggest that don't have a criteria when they select players is I will repeat ridiculous. They have clearly, the fact you don't agree with it doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

That was the point of my post, nothing more; nothing less
this thread is about banfield of course i was talking about banfield and his weaknesses which we have  ignored. cant kick cant find the ball and his performances over 6 yrs have in the main been poor. can they give us one real good redeeming attribute as to why they ignored these things or isit  they didnt even look at em. its not just banfield they have done this with either.
in this case it really does SEEM  they the club have no criteria and they took him on hope rather than properly assesing him

a fair few of my mates think he can play thats potential i suppose. but based on some pretty simple criteria which we obviously have ignored i dont think he should have been taken.
FFS, as has been said, he is only a rookie!!!!!!!

Very little given away and he has a bit of X-factor about him with his speed.  Just give the club a break and hold off your criticisms until AFTER he has failed at least.
weather its a rookie pick a mid range nd pick,  a first rnd pick or a mature recruit. the question should be asked. why are we continuing to take players with such obvious weakneses and poor performance records.

Because there are no flawless players available in the rookie draft.
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: Penelope on January 03, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
'course there are  ::)
Title: Re: Rookie pick 11 - Todd Banfield
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 03, 2014, 06:53:54 AM

weather its a rookie pick a mid range nd pick,  a first rnd pick or a mature recruit. the question should be asked. why are we continuing to take players with such obvious weakneses and poor performance records.

In your opinion of course  ;D