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Title: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
PSD starts at 11.00am

Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 10:51:27 AM
Callum Twomey on the Live AFL chat reckons Dan Howe has been linked to te Tigers

"10:48  Callum Twomey: Dan Howe has been linked to Richmond."
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Another one from Callum Twomey

"10:53  Callum Twomey: Steven, James Toohey might find a home at Richmond through the rookie draft."
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
inb4 meltdown.  :shh ;D

+ inb4 Templeton misses out.  :o
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 10:59:38 AM
Yes today will be a wonderful day on OER

Any draft day is  :rollin
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:01:34 AM
Pick 1 - GWS have taken Jed Lamb

What a surprise NOT  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:02:09 AM
Pick 3 Richmond

We've selected to the surprise of no-one

PASS
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:02:53 AM
PSD over

Everyone with picks outside of GWS passed

Now onto the Rookie Draft  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
The PSD draft took a massive 18.8 seconds to complete

BTW 10 minute wait to the Rookie Draft
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 11:06:53 AM
Catching their breathe.  :shh
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
Callum Twomey: Well, not much of a surprise then, was there? There was a chance Richmond would take Banfield as a pre-season pick to get ahead of the Lions in the rookie draft but will now look to the rookie picks if they want him.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Oiafi on November 27, 2013, 11:08:37 AM
10 minutes is needed. It would take a while for the clubs to absorb and digest the enormity of what just happened.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 11:10:49 AM
 :lol

Pass would have been available in the rookie draft. Backwards again,  :banghead
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
Waiting, waiting

Why are we waiting  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
PSD Pick 7 - Pass.

We must have been keen on this guy called "Pass" as we selected him twice  ;D.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
NSW/Qld zone selections:

Callum Twomey:
Brisbane has added Archie Smith from their Academy as a round-10 selection.

Callum Twomey:
Jarred Ellis has been added as a Gold Coast academy selection and will be taken in the sixth round.



Mark Macgugan:
ROOKIE DRAFT

1. GWS: Sam Schulz (GWS)
2. Melbourne: James Harmes (Dandenong Stingrays)
3. St Kilda: Eli Templeton (Burnie Dockers)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
4. Gold Coast: Louis Herbert (North Ballarat)
5. West Coast: Will Maginness (Oakleigh Chargers)
6. Brisbane Lions: Isaac Conway (Aspley)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:14:50 AM
7. Adelaide: Charlie Cameron (Swan Districts)
8. North Melbourne: Joel Tippett (West Adelaide)
9. Essendon: Fraser Thurlow (Labrador)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
10. Collingwood: Corey Gault (Collingwood)
11. Richmond: Todd Banfield (Brisbane Lions)
12: Carlton: Luke Reynolds (Port Adelaide)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 27, 2013, 11:15:53 AM
I really think they are going to get Banfield.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
inb4 meltdown.  :shh ;D

+ inb4 Templeton misses out.  :o

Thank goodness Templeton's been selected by the Saints poor kid

Moans can now start about how we should have taken in the ND with pick 66
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:16:24 AM
13. Port Adelaide: Sam Russell (Geelong Falcons)
14. Sydney Swans: Pass
15. Geelong: James Toohey (Oakleigh Chargers)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:17:02 AM
We've missed out on Toohey

Goodness gracious me

Preparing for the howls now  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 11:17:09 AM
inb4 meltdown.  :shh ;D

+ inb4 Templeton misses out.  :o

Thank goodness Templeton's been selected by the Saints poor kid

Moans can now start about how we should have taken in the ND with pick 66
Will fit in well there lol
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:17:30 AM
 
16. Fremantle: Michael Wood (Subiaco)
17. Hawthorn: Dallas Willsmore (North Ballarat Rebels)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
18. GWS: Pass
19: Melbourne: Max King (Murray Bushrangers)
20. St Kilda: Mav Weller (Gold Coast)
21. Gold Coast: Pass
22. West Coast: Rohan Powell (Claremont)
23: Brisbane Lions: Zac O'Brien (Essendon VFL)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
24: Adelaide: James Battersby (Sturt)
25: North Melbourne: Kayne Turner (Murray Bushrangers)
26: Essendon: Patrick Ambrose (Old Xaverians)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Who is Anthony Miles?  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:22:19 AM
 27. Richmond: Anthony Miles (GWS)
28. Carlton: Cameron Wood (Collingwood)
29: Port Adelaide: Sam Gray (Port Adelaide SANFL)
 
30: Sydney Swans: Pass
31: Geelong: Nick Bourke (Geelong Falcons)
32: Fremantle: Thomas Vandeleur (South Fremantle)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Anthony Miles. Great pick up.  :clapping :clapping :clapping Makes up for Banfield  :lol
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
 33. Hawthorn: Derick Wanganeen (Hawthorn)

ROUND THREE
34. GWS: Pass
35: Melbourne: Alexis Georgiou
 36. St Kilda: Jason Holmes (USA)
37. Gold Coast: Pass
38. West Coast: Murray Newman (West Coast)
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:24:26 AM
 
39. Brisbane Lions: Pass
40. Adelaide: Jake Kelly (Oakleigh Chargers)
41. Essendon: Johnny Rayner
 
42. Richmond: Matt Thomas (Port Adelaide)
43. Carlton: Blaine Johnson (South Fremantle)
44. Port Adelaide: Brent Renouf (Port Adelaide)
 
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2013, 11:24:42 AM
Oh what a relief we've taken Thomas

Forum would have been very quiet if we hadn't  :rollin
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
45. Sydney: Patrick Mitchell (USA)
46. Geelong: Zachary bates (West Adelaide)
47. Fremantle: Jacob Ballard (Northern Blues)

48. Hawthorn: Zac Webster (Glenorchy)
49. GWS: Pass
50. Melbourne: Neville Jetta (Melbourne)

51. Gold Coast: Pass
52. Adelaide: Alex Spina (North Adelaide)
53. Carlton: Heath Scotland (Carlton)

54. Port Adelaide: Daniel Flynn (Ireland)
55. Sydney Swans: Lloyd Perris (NSW ACT Rams)
56. Geelong: Michael Luxford (previously unregistered player)

57. Hawthorn: Ben Ross (Werribee)
58. GWS: Pass
59: Gold Coast: Pass

60. Carlton: Ciaran Sheehan (Ireland)
61. Hawthorn: Kurt Heatherley (New Zealand)
63. GWS: Pass

63. Gold Coast: Jarred Ellis (Broadbeach)
64. Carlton: Ciaran Byrne (Ireland)
65. Hawthorn: Shem Tatupu (Oakleigh)

 
66. GWS: Pass
67. GWS: Pass
68. GWS: Pass
69. Brisbane Lions: Archie Smith (Mt Gravatt)

END OF ROOKIE DRAFT
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Dice on November 27, 2013, 12:55:41 PM
So is there another draft to be had before 2014 ? I'm particularly interested in the draft where we choose a handful of young kids like which used to be done on national draft day instead of grabbing 23 and 24 yr olds...which used to be done in the psd  ! I noticed the other 17 clubs still use national draft day to draft kids.
 Are we too clever for the other 17 clubs ?
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
We are defiantly not topping up.

Please get your facts straight.

Stuffing hell.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Chuck17 on November 27, 2013, 01:09:08 PM
I think I willbe agreeing with Claw when he starts to post on the drafts.

The lack of kids chosen is mind boggling
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tiga on November 27, 2013, 01:21:27 PM
Anthony Miles. Great pick up.  :clapping :clapping :clapping Makes up for Banfield  :lol

I agree Tigs, I watched this kid play a fair bit and he has ability.  :thumbsup  Averaged 18 disposals and racked up 27 possies against Freo in 2012. Didn't get a whole lot of time on the field this year but the kid is a tough nut with a cool head. I have to admit that I was surprised that GWS discarded him but when you have the wealth of midfielders that they do its easy to burn players that don't exactly fit into your plans.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 01:23:03 PM
Anthony Miles. Great pick up.  :clapping :clapping :clapping Makes up for Banfield  :lol

I agree Tigs, I watched this kid play a fair bit and he has ability.  :thumbsup  Averaged 18 disposals and racked up 27 possies against Freo in 2012. Didn't get a whole lot of time on the field this year but the kid is a tough nut with a cool head. I have to admit that I was surprised that GWS discarded him but when you have the wealth of midfielders that they do its easy to burn players that don't exactly fit into your plans.
Could have got him with our 3rd pick though.  :banghead :lol

But seriously he can play. Ready-made and has upside unlike other guys we've taken in the rookie drafts of last few years. Banfield might even be ok injury free but that's a big IF at this stage.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2013, 01:52:43 PM
I think I willbe agreeing with Claw when he starts to post on the drafts.

The lack of kids chosen is mind boggling


1/7

 :o
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: gerkin greg on November 27, 2013, 01:56:34 PM
Will reserve final judgment on this draft period until after the boxing day test
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2013, 07:55:21 PM
Richmond

We say

For the second straight year, the Tigers have largely gone for mature-age talent. Shaun Hampson, Nathan Gordon and Sam Lloyd have already been added, along with young gun Ben Lennon, and the additions of rookies Todd Banfield (pick No.11), Anthony Miles (No.27) and Matt Thomas (No.42) – all from AFL clubs – will give them greater depth after the relative success of Ricky Petterd, Troy Chaplin, Aaron Edwards and Chris Knights (before his knee injury) last year. Petterd has been promoted and Orren Stephenson is back for another rookie season, with the extra injection of experience to complement the progression of the Tigers' recent draftees. – Jennifer Phelan

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-27/they-say-we-say-rookie-draft-verdicts#tigers

Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 27, 2013, 08:38:18 PM
Will reserve final judgment on this draft period until after the boxing day test
:shh :lol
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: bojangles17 on November 27, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
Pretty shrewd selections by the tiges , have improved our depth no end. Batting pretty deep down at punt rd these days, nice work fj........again :clapping
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: the claw on November 27, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
no surprises really. and no real complaints ive always said this is where you take mature players.
the biggest gripe i have is the lack of 18 yr olds taken.
no one will  be able to persuade me that at the very least picks 12 and 50 should have gone on kids.

on those rookied im not keen on banfield.  besides im asking again how many bloody sml/med forwards do we need.  hes been cut from brisbane for a reason i would have prefered he go back to a state league and develop and improve his game over the next yr or two and then have a crack at him if he ticks the boxes.
am not keen on matt thomas either he at least has come off a dominating season and like i said if you are going to take a risk its here you should take it.

finally ive said fairly regularly that the tall stocks are in strife i would have loved to see us rookie a ruckman and another kpd.  ah well not to be.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tony_montana on November 27, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
I hope they know what theyre doing bc on face value 1 kid from 7 picks seems pretty extreme
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Willy on November 27, 2013, 11:23:26 PM
How old is Miles? 20?
Bloody journeyman aye.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: RedanTiger on November 27, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
Yep 20, already delisted after 13 games in two seasons with the bottom side.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Diocletian on November 27, 2013, 11:37:29 PM
Defending premiers or wooden spooners, you should always be bringing in kids. If we're not careful, at this rate, Hardwick could leave this list in virtually the same state Lyon left St.Kilda's - minus the Grand Final experience.

Claw's right about the lack of talls...key position talls more to the point....needed at least another ruck....worrying we don't have at least one developing young specialist ruckman ....or are we just going to keep recycling 25 year-olds from other AFL clubs from now on?

And we're still completely stuffed if Chaplin goes down.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 27, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
How old is Miles? 20?
Bloody journeyman aye.

That's the most disturbing avatar I've ever seen  :clapping
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Willy on November 28, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
Lloyd and Gordon are early 20's not exactly stegosauruses.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tigs2011 on November 28, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
Lloyd and Gordon are early 20's not exactly stegosauruses.
Well and truly on the downhill slope of life.  :shh
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: the claw on November 28, 2013, 01:56:42 AM
How old is Miles? 20?
Bloody journeyman aye.
22 in feb or before the season starts.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: the claw on November 28, 2013, 02:01:46 AM
Lloyd and Gordon are early 20's not exactly stegosauruses.
both turn 24 before the start of the season not exactly juniors either. in fact for their type they should have well and truly clicked by now.

as i have repeatedly said i dont have a problem with us taking gordon and lloyd its where we took em and the abysmal lack of kids taken.
idont think we have addressed any of the serious list needs in a significant way.

ican tell ya all now. even if we won a premiership id still be dead set against taking just one kid in an entire trade nd period.

im still shaking my head. if we are locked and loaded as it seems we must be why did we not go after chapman instead of many similar types who have not proven a thing.

im not even sure we have addressed the mid field short comings yet alone added depth to the ruck and kpp problems we have.
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: tony_montana on November 28, 2013, 08:11:44 AM
How old is Miles? 20?
Bloody journeyman aye.

2 from 7 then..
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 28, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
1/7
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: Penelope on November 28, 2013, 08:22:25 AM
I think the club may have read too many of claws posts about mature state league types and become infatuated with them.

It is painfully obvious to see that they overlooked kids that they actually rate higher, just to satisfy their overwhelming urge to top up with players who are past their prime.

After all, if you think about about it, the idea that they just picked the players they rated as the best prospects, and that this year it happened that these old codgers rated higher than the kids available, is just so outlandish it is incomprehensible.

Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: gerkin greg on November 28, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
Took more kids than any other club last year

Calm the farm
Title: Re: Pre-season & Rookie Drafts
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 28, 2013, 02:26:39 PM
Lloyd and Gordon are early 20's not exactly stegosauruses.
both turn 24 before the start of the season not exactly juniors either. in fact for their type they should have well and truly clicked by now.

as i have repeatedly said i dont have a problem with us taking gordon and lloyd its where we took em and the abysmal lack of kids taken.
idont think we have addressed any of the serious list needs in a significant way.

ican tell ya all now. even if we won a premiership id still be dead set against taking just one kid in an entire trade nd period.

im still shaking my head. if we are locked and loaded as it seems we must be why did we not go after chapman instead of many similar types who have not proven a thing.

im not even sure we have addressed the mid field short comings yet alone added depth to the ruck and kpp problems we have.
You may well be right claw, but I'd give the new recruits a chance before you start shaking your head.  It's amazing how some people pull their thumb out when given a second chance. They might just surprise you!