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Title: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2014, 03:33:17 AM
Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management

   Samantha Lane
     The Age
    May 23, 2014



The president of besieged Richmond says radical overhaul at the club would be pointless and, while sorely disappointed by a "temporary setback" on-field, has backed coach Damien Hardwick unequivocally.

Eight months into her trailblazing appointment, Peggy O'Neal described a "routine" board meeting this week when the Tigers hierarchy posed several burning questions to the club's general manager of football. The board requested at Tuesday's sitting that the football boss, Dan Richardson, report back in June.

O'Neal told Fairfax Media:
- she was entirely confident in the capabilities of Richmond's football department to examine in "minute detail" the reasons behind the club's 2-6 start.
- the team's recent inability to cover experienced players like Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric and Alex Rance "may have been a reality check about the depth of our list".
- on-field performances had "gone backwards", but she echoed the sentiment of Tigers CEO, Brendon Gale, that "internally we're probably harder on each other than any external evaluation of our performance".

In November, O'Neal said a return to finals in 2014 would be a pass mark for the side. She also set the additional challenge of winning a final. At round ten, however, Richmond has slumped to 16th but the president said it would be counter-intuitive to order rash moves.

"I'm as disappointed as any fan. But I think fans can take confidence in knowing that everything that can be done, is being done to assess the reasons for this," O'Neal said.

"The football performance has gone backwards from where we were last year, but it doesn't mean that the entire direction of the club is wrong. We believe this is a temporary setback.

"If you just keep changing directions you're always just starting all over," she said.

After the club's general manager of football, Dan Richardson, debriefed on the team's recent run of losses at a scheduled meeting of the board on Tuesday, O'Neal said: "Nobody is pointing fingers or casting blame. We're very united in that we have a lot of bright, solid people around the board table and around the club. And we have confidence that we can see our way through, that we will help each other, and that we bring the best decision-making process we can to deal with issues as they arise.

"So if we ask Dan questions, sometimes we don't expect an answer immediately. We want people to go away and collect their thoughts, collect the information and then come back."

O'Neal would not specify the football-related issues the board was most interested in. She was only willing to make the general statement that: "As a board we just want some assurance that management is looking at issues that we think are important. And we were assured, by what Dan says, that they are."

While some club boards receive a presentation from their senior coach at every meeting, typically at Richmond the coach presents only three times per year: pre-season, mid-year and post-season. Presently, it makes Richardson the consistent conduit between the football department and the club's ultimate decision-making committee.

"That's the pattern. It has been our pattern for years," O'Neal, in her ninth year on the Tigers' board, said. "Other clubs may do it differently, but we think the head of football is the appropriate person to come in."

O'Neal said a review of Richmond's football department was unnecessary since Hardwick's contract was extended last December after an examination that the president termed "very current".

Hardwick's previous deal was to expire at the end this year but, after returning the Tigers to finals last year for the first time since 2001, Hardwick was offered a deal binding him to Richmond until the end of 2016.

"We had no doubt, based on the performance review, and the review from the head of football and the CEO, that he was the right person for the job," O'Neal said.

Asked if the board remained convinced Hardwick was the coach to direct Richmond to its 11th premiership, O'Neal said: "We did and we do. And we stand by that definitely.I understand the interest, but no one has ever said anything other than that Damien is the coach for us."

After losing to Melbourne last weekend, following the honouring of deceased club icon Tom Hafey, O'Neal would not forecast on what a loss to the 17th placed Giants would mean this week.

"The sooner we win the better everybody feels, and the more we lose the worse everybody feels," she said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-president-backs-hardwick-and-team-management-20140522-zrlct.html#ixzz32SzP9cBH
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on May 23, 2014, 04:31:16 AM
It would be a nice change if the Club just shut the stuff up until they could back up on the park what is now just empty rhetoric. We don't need a daily running public self-analysis commentary from all and sundry via the media  :scream.

- the team's recent inability to cover experienced players like Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric and Alex Rance "may have been a reality check about the depth of our list".
That's a cop out just as it turned out to be when Dimma used it as an excuse a month ago. We had Lids and Rance back against Melbourne and still played pathetically as a team. There's more to this year's collapse than just lack of depth. 

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O'Neal said a review of Richmond's football department was unnecessary since Hardwick's contract was extended last December after an examination that the president termed "very current".

"We had no doubt, based on the performance review, and the review from the head of football and the CEO, that he was the right person for the job," O'Neal said.
That's just astonishing that the Prez doesn't see the need for a review of the footy dept  :huh. There's more to the footy dept. than the senior coach, Peggy. What about the fitness staff, the list manager, the recruiters, the assistant coaches, etc. With all due respect, you're kidding yourself if you believe the footy dept. personnel is fine as is.

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"The sooner we win the better everybody feels, and the more we lose the worse everybody feels," she said.
A win or two will not cover up the underlying problems within the team :facepalm. Focusing on wins/losses is ignoring the deeper problems of how pitifully substandard our skills and gamestyle are, the sheer mental fragility and weakness of the team, the lack of leadership and a culture of accepting poor standards and ill-discipline onfield. 
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: 1965 on May 23, 2014, 04:43:52 AM
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"The sooner we win the better everybody feels, and the more we lose the worse everybody feels," she said.
A win or two will not cover up the underlying problems within the team :facepalm. Focusing on wins/losses is ignoring the deeper problems of how pitifully substandard our skills and gamestyle are, the sheer mental fragility and weakness of the team, the lack of leadership and a culture of accepting poor standards and ill-discipline onfield.

It is true though, win the next couple and the noise will abate.

Maybe we need to keep losing before real change happens.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 23, 2014, 07:34:59 AM
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s CEO, Brendon Gale, that "internally we're probably harder on each other than any external evaluation of our performance".

Is this why Grigg, Chaplin and Vickery were dropped?
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 23, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2014, 08:20:58 AM

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O'Neal said a review of Richmond's football department was unnecessary since Hardwick's contract was extended last December after an examination that the president termed "very current".

"We had no doubt, based on the performance review, and the review from the head of football and the CEO, that he was the right person for the job," O'Neal said.
That's just astonishing that the Prez doesn't see the need for a review of the footy dept  :huh. There's more to the footy dept. than the senior coach, Peggy. What about the fitness staff, the list manager, the recruiters, the assistant coaches, etc. With all due respect, you're kidding yourself if you believe the footy dept. personnel is fine as is.



While I understand your angst MT, the bit that caught my eye was this:

Eight months into her trailblazing appointment, Peggy O'Neal described a "routine" board meeting this week when the Tigers hierarchy posed several burning questions to the club's general manager of football. The board requested at Tuesday's sitting that the football boss, Dan Richardson, report back in June.

and this

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O'Neal would not specify the football-related issues the board was most interested in. She was only willing to make the general statement that: "As a board we just want some assurance that management is looking at issues that we think are important. And we were assured, by what Dan says, that they are."


She wouldn't be specific as to what Richardson had to report back on but we'd all would love to know. Perhaps it is in the areas you've highlighted  ;)

And agree I just want them all to shut up

But she tried that and folks complained, she's now spoken and people will still complain

 ;D
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 23, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
no issue from me WP. Glad she finally said something. Puts the onus back on Dan Richardson and the wonderful job he is doing at the minute.

Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Rampstar on May 23, 2014, 10:41:49 AM
Well its good shes had something to say. Not sure what she said is any good to us as a club. What I took from that is that they feel they are on the right track lol and that they will continue to support the current football direction.

We are in a whole heap of trouble but the real problem is there all trying to protect each other down their so they dont lose  their jobs in the administration its an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 02:58:04 PM
Beginning of the end - the Dimmer Switch about to be disconnected.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Chuck17 on May 23, 2014, 03:02:40 PM
Beginning of the end - the Dimmer Switch about to be disconnected.

Yep it's brewing
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on May 23, 2014, 03:10:07 PM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Then he'd just take shortcuts. This way he has a chance to build for the future. Oh wait... :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: sdc01 on May 23, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
"If you just keep changing directions you're always just starting all over,"

yep...port adelaide should have stuck with primus...melbourne with neeld....lol
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Diocletian on May 23, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
If Hackson, Hartley, the fitness staff and Tim Clarke don't all follow him out the door it'll be a complete waste of time. If anything they should probably all go before him.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 23, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
This article just re enforces what I already learnt off Peggy last week
No review ?
Peggy NO IDEA
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Chuck17 on May 23, 2014, 05:35:19 PM
This article just re enforces what I already learnt off Peggy last week
No review ?
Peggy NO IDEA

You should give her a tip or two
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 23, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
If Hackson, Hartley, the fitness staff and Tim Clarke don't all follow him out the door it'll be a complete waste of time. If anything they should probably all go before him.

Yes they should and the idiots who signed those fools up to contracts should leave also.

How hackson is still around is more baffling than anything ive seen from the club in the last decade.



Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: the claw on May 23, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
It would be a nice change if the Club just shut the stuff up until they could back up on the park what is now just empty rhetoric. We don't need a daily running public self-analysis commentary from all and sundry via the media  :scream.

- the team's recent inability to cover experienced players like Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric and Alex Rance "may have been a reality check about the depth of our list".
That's a cop out just as it turned out to be when Dimma used it as an excuse a month ago. We had Lids and Rance back against Melbourne and still played pathetically as a team. There's more to this year's collapse than just lack of depth. 

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O'Neal said a review of Richmond's football department was unnecessary since Hardwick's contract was extended last December after an examination that the president termed "very current".

"We had no doubt, based on the performance review, and the review from the head of football and the CEO, that he was the right person for the job," O'Neal said.
That's just astonishing that the Prez doesn't see the need for a review of the footy dept  :huh. There's more to the footy dept. than the senior coach, Peggy. What about the fitness staff, the list manager, the recruiters, the assistant coaches, etc. With all due respect, you're kidding yourself if you believe the footy dept. personnel is fine as is.

Quote
"The sooner we win the better everybody feels, and the more we lose the worse everybody feels," she said.
A win or two will not cover up the underlying problems within the team :facepalm. Focusing on wins/losses is ignoring the deeper problems of how pitifully substandard our skills and gamestyle are, the sheer mental fragility and weakness of the team, the lack of leadership and a culture of accepting poor standards and ill-discipline onfield.
mt i know we have had our tangles at times but sheesh that is one fine post.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: the claw on May 23, 2014, 11:01:57 PM
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"The sooner we win the better everybody feels, and the more we lose the worse everybody feels," she said.
A win or two will not cover up the underlying problems within the team :facepalm. Focusing on wins/losses is ignoring the deeper problems of how pitifully substandard our skills and gamestyle are, the sheer mental fragility and weakness of the team, the lack of leadership and a culture of accepting poor standards and ill-discipline onfield.

It is true though, win the next couple and the noise will abate.

Maybe we need to keep losing before real change happens.

 :cheers
a few us argued even when we won 15 games in a season that we were on a tight rope as far as list, recruiting and list management goes. a few wins may silence the masses but it sure as hell wont fix the problems.
id go so far as to say statements like a few wins will silence people is nothing more than tokenism and dirsregarding peoples intelligence, im sorry peggy but we arent all fools.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: the claw on May 23, 2014, 11:06:48 PM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Then he'd just take shortcuts. This way he has a chance to build for the future. Oh wait... :banghead :banghead
thats the sad part of all this. they had carte blanche to do the hard yards and take their time about it and make sure they got it right.

thing is if you cant identify what is wrong in your footy dept you cant fix a thing.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on May 23, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Then he'd just take shortcuts. This way he has a chance to build for the future. Oh wait... :banghead :banghead
thats the sad part of all this. they had carte blanche to do the hard yards and take their time about it and make sure they got it right.

thing is if you cant identify what is wrong in your footy dept you cant fix a thing.
thats the real issue isn't it. They don't know they've stuffed up. Everyone makes mistakes. Good teams rectify it
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Rampstar on May 23, 2014, 11:18:51 PM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Then he'd just take shortcuts. This way he has a chance to build for the future. Oh wait... :banghead :banghead
thats the sad part of all this. they had carte blanche to do the hard yards and take their time about it and make sure they got it right.

thing is if you cant identify what is wrong in your footy dept you cant fix a thing.
thats the real issue isn't it. They don't know they've stuffed up. Everyone makes mistakes. Good teams rectify it

I reckon they know theyve stuffed it up, they just trying to hide it IMHO which is worse.
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 24, 2014, 03:59:38 AM
This article just re enforces what I already learnt off Peggy last week
No review ?
Peggy NO IDEA

You should give her a tip or two

I should actually
The business I run is twice the $ turnover of RFC and double the staff and isn't a shambles
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: yellowandback on May 24, 2014, 04:46:56 AM
But the staff all can't stand their boss?
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 24, 2014, 05:10:15 AM
But the staff all can't stand their boss?


They love there boss  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 24, 2014, 10:22:09 AM
This article just re enforces what I already learnt off Peggy last week
No review ?
Peggy NO IDEA

You should give her a tip or two

I should actually
The business I run is twice the $ turnover of RFC and double the staff and isn't a shambles

Oh c'mon not this again Jack!
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Gigantor on May 24, 2014, 10:27:54 AM
We really shouldn't be passing judgement on her just yet,shes been in the job for 2 minutes (I include myself in this)
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: tony_montana on May 24, 2014, 11:11:02 AM
If Hackson, Hartley, the fitness staff and Tim Clarke don't all follow him out the door it'll be a complete waste of time. If anything they should probably all go before him.

Ideally before, as much as he's pooting me, I'd like to give him a chance to turn this ship around
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: tony_montana on May 24, 2014, 11:14:34 AM
Giving Hardwick 3 years last December was a HUGE mistake. The bloke should be on 1 year contracts
Then he'd just take shortcuts. This way he has a chance to build for the future. Oh wait... :banghead :banghead
thats the sad part of all this. they had carte blanche to do the hard yards and take their time about it and make sure they got it right.

thing is if you cant identify what is wrong in your footy dept you cant fix a thing.
thats the real issue isn't it. They don't know they've stuffed up. Everyone makes mistakes. Good teams rectify it

I reckon they know theyve stuffed it up, they just trying to hide it IMHO which is worse.

I honestly think they don't ramps which for mine is worse. If they know but try to hide it while they try and rectify it I can understand, but they continue on in the he same vein which to me says they truly have nfi they're stuffing up
Title: Re: Richmond president backs Hardwick and team management (Age)
Post by: Rampstar on May 24, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Fair enough