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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 15, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
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Bigfooty rumour:
Just heard something about Garlett going to Richmond, seems like the Tigers are keen on him and have approached Carlton, seems too early in the season for this one to be true, but it is a good source. But not sure what to make of it, I don't think the Tigers are in the market for a small forward?
All I know was that it was the Tigers with a strong interest and a few enquirers from WA teams, but the Tigers seem to be the most interested in Jeff.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jeff-garlett-to-richmond.1066329/
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No thanks.
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If we trade Titch for Garlett I'd do it. Garlett has more impact.
If not then pass.
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How long would it take us to ruin another aboriginal career?
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How long would it take us to ruin another aboriginal career?
I'd give it 6-8 weeks:refer to Relton Roberts. :thumbsup
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The mail is straight swap for Hampson
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The mail is straight swap for Hampson
SOLD :thumbsup
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Depends on price but I'd take him if he was cheap. We need pace and goal nouse.
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I think he's been exposed since their real star small forward left.
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Yes please.
Throw in Dangerfield/fyfe/nicnat big fish and top 3 pick
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How many more ordinary 2nds players from Carlton can we take?
What its Bootsma doing?
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Ah shyte I thought it was dayle garlett
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Go for it. Has pace. Worth taking a risk.
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We've already got enough mentally weak player at Richmond
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We've already got enough mentally weak player at Richmond
Agreed. This is his biggest weakness.
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We've already got enough mentally weak player at Richmond
+1 on this. Don't need Jeff Garlett. He didn't take being a sub well under Malthouse and had a sook. I lol'd a bit when he got dropped the following week. has Hayden Ballantyne re-signed with Freo yet?
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We've already got enough mentally weak player at Richmond
+1 on this. Don't need Jeff Garlett. He didn't take being a sub well under Malthouse and had a sook. I lol'd a bit when he got dropped the following week. has Hayden Ballantyne re-signed with Freo yet?
I thought that was Yarran
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In terms of genuine small forwards in the game, where would you rate him?
IMO he is up there. Small forwards aren't going to get 30 touches a week. And they aren't even going to kick bags of goals every week. The good ones put on forward pressure and kick maybe 2 goals on average.
Garlett is better than any small forward we have by a mile.
We get him and we can trade or delist the some of the following giving us more room to draft for other holes in our side. - Edwards, King, Lloyd, McDonough, Gordon, Newman. (All of which have been tried in that small forward role) surely you rate Garlett better than any of these blokes as a small forward?
As well as get Garlett, draft another small forward and hope he pushes Gartett out eventually.
IMO getting Garlett fills a hole we have had since Chris Nash.
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In terms of genuine small forwards in the game, where we you rate him?
IMO he is up there. Small forwards aren't going to get 30 touches a week. And they aren't even going to kick bags of goals every week. The good ones put on forward pressure and kick maybe 2 goals on average.
Garlett is better than any small forward we have by a mile.
We get him and we can trade or delist the some of the following giving us more room to draft for other holes in our side. - Edwards, King, Lloyd, McDonough, Gordon, Newman. (All of which have been tried in that small forward role) surely you rate Garlett better than any of these blokes as a small forward?
As well as get Garlett, draft another small forward and hope he pushes Gartett out eventually.
IMO getting Garlett fills a hole we have had since Chris Nash.
He has kicked 12 goals in 9 games this year. Not good enough for a permanent small forward.
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Im with doc on this. This stinks of another moneyball job. We can only laugh at the amateurs running the club now. Seriously its a :lol
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We've already got enough mentally weak player at Richmond
+1 on this. Don't need Jeff Garlett. He didn't take being a sub well under Malthouse and had a sook. I lol'd a bit when he got dropped the following week. has Hayden Ballantyne re-signed with Freo yet?
I thought that was Yarran
My bad. It was Yarran. Yeah the mosquito fleet from carlton. I think they're passed their prime (although Betts seems to be doing OK at Adelaide) and I think people are romanticising how good they are only because the mosquito fleet thrash us but aren't that effective against more competent teams
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As long as they play he in miles position and demote miles long term to the twos :clapping
I'd rookie dayle garlet but
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He has pace. But seems a bit soft from what I have seen of him. Great front runner. He is probably a slight upgrade on Edwards.
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In terms of genuine small forwards in the game, where we you rate him?
IMO he is up there. Small forwards aren't going to get 30 touches a week. And they aren't even going to kick bags of goals every week. The good ones put on forward pressure and kick maybe 2 goals on average.
Garlett is better than any small forward we have by a mile.
We get him and we can trade or delist the some of the following giving us more room to draft for other holes in our side. - Edwards, King, Lloyd, McDonough, Gordon, Newman. (All of which have been tried in that small forward role) surely you rate Garlett better than any of these blokes as a small forward?
As well as get Garlett, draft another small forward and hope he pushes Gartett out eventually.
IMO getting Garlett fills a hole we have had since Chris Nash.
Not sure that McDonough has been tried there in the seniors yet BT? I wish they would because he played a lot of his junior footy there and was dominant.
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Won't happen.
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In terms of genuine small forwards in the game, where we you rate him?
IMO he is up there. Small forwards aren't going to get 30 touches a week. And they aren't even going to kick bags of goals every week. The good ones put on forward pressure and kick maybe 2 goals on average.
Garlett is better than any small forward we have by a mile.
We get him and we can trade or delist the some of the following giving us more room to draft for other holes in our side. - Edwards, King, Lloyd, McDonough, Gordon, Newman. (All of which have been tried in that small forward role) surely you rate Garlett better than any of these blokes as a small forward?
As well as get Garlett, draft another small forward and hope he pushes Gartett out eventually.
IMO getting Garlett fills a hole we have had since Chris Nash.
Fair argument. Garlett is very quick and is skilful. We badly need a small forward. King is towards end of career. Newman is not a small forward per se. There is a question mark over Gordon. Edwards has not been setting the world on fire. Hope McDonough does develop into a small forward in time but the club may have other plans for him.
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what will we give carlton in return? Or are we going to give him an offer he cant refuse ala hampson lol
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Edwards has not been setting the world on fire.
No he hasn't in fact he's had a very patchy season but significantly his output is still much better than Garlett.
I would have considered Garlett a few years back but not sure now.
Need to be exceptional to make it in that specialist small forward role.
Ballantyne, LeCras, L Thomas, Harvey, Betts.. are the yardstick.
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Garlett is easily better than Shankwards and has the pace we so desperately need......problem is he's still not that good and if Malthouse can't get his arse in gear, we're no hope..........pass....
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
Yes, I believe so....
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
Yes, I believe so....
Jeff and Dayle are cousins.
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
Yes, I believe so....
Jeff and Dayle are cousins.
Yes, that too....
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Lack a small ineffectual forward now that Nahas has gone
Is a must get
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We need some serious pace and this guy would give usain bolt a run for his money ...get it. Done tigers , straight swap,for helbig :clapping
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
Yes, I believe so....
Jeff and Dayle are cousins.
Yes, that too....
lmao
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Remember Round 1 last year Garlett running into goal to put the Blues in front in the last quarter and hitting the post in the last this year when it was easier to goal than miss. That's all we need another bloke who misses critical goals with the game in the balance. Pass.
Hope the grammar and punctuation now makes it easier Ox. :thumbsup
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wtf did u just say?
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How long would it take us to ruin another aboriginal career?
I'd give it 6-8 weeks:refer to Relton Roberts. :thumbsup
lol roberts while talkented was always fat lazy and disinterested. should never ever have been taken even as a rookie.
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Is Dayle Garlett Jeff's son?
Yes, I believe so....
Jeff and Dayle are cousins.
Yes, that too....
:lol
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Thats the guy who cant kick a goal inside the 10 metre box ;D buy him some coke bottle glasses & put some spuds on his ears.
NO
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
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What Richmond need & what l have said for years now is we need 2 big forwards to build around.
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We could throw a lot of money at Roughhead l reckon Roughy could win a Brownlow Medal his that type of player & can get around the ground with ease. Another Gippsland product ;D
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the recruiters get a young player like him. GWS have Patton who is the type of strong hip player. Poach him
Oh forgot to add, & get Dmac back down at the club. His a one of a kind 21 year old HFF who is a real tiger on the ground. one of the best 21 year olds playing ;D get it done
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
Grigg ?
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Replaces King and is quick but is NOT worth a lot, so we shouldn't, hope to god, offer a lot, pick 50 or a player. But given Carlton will want pick 30 we shouldn't do it. He isn't worth that much, Betts was the good one of the two.
But I would take him to replace King, but only at the right price.
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
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We would turn Ablett into a pea-hearted squib who torches the footy. ;D ;D
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But we have lloyd right? I know he's not as quick off the blocks as Garlett but he's got great goal sense. Surely we can just save the draft pick and develop Lloyd to read the play better so he gets into better positions to make up for his lack of acceleration?
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Oh forgot to add, & get Dmac back down at the club. His a one of a kind 21 year old HFF who is a real tiger on the ground. one of the best 21 year olds playing ;D get it done
Who?
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
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Get it done, get both of them, get all, just do somefuckingthing!!!
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
Lol!!!!!
I compared him to Edwards because I'm saying they are both bad.!!!!
How many goals would a mentally weak player like Garlett kick after he has contracted Tigeritis?
I'd rather recruit a young talented indiginous player than another Carlton reject.
NO MORE MONEYBALL!!!
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I think its no coincidence that he's struggling now that betts has gone - not to mention Carltons form is another factor - gotta ask what makes people think he could perform better at Richmond where our talls lead to the boundary(or double back)? - our fwd line is a crumbers nightmare.
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
Lol!!!!!
I compared him to Edwards because I'm saying they are both bad.!!!!
How many goals would a mentally weak player like Garlett kick after he has contracted Tigeritis?
I'd rather recruit a young talented indiginous player than another Carlton reject.
NO MORE MONEYBALL!!!
Averaging 40 goals a season for 4 seasons for a small forward is not bad.
Hardly Moneyball!
Just because he is from another club doesn't mean it's Moneyball (even if you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS) :lol :thumbsup
Doesn't really matter anyway YABB, we haven't got the balls!
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Strikes me as another run of the mill type that sounds well against richmind - not so mich vs everyone else
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
Lol!!!!!
I compared him to Edwards because I'm saying they are both bad.!!!!
How many goals would a mentally weak player like Garlett kick after he has contracted Tigeritis?
I'd rather recruit a young talented indiginous player than another Carlton reject.
NO MORE MONEYBALL!!!
Averaging 40 goals a season for 4 seasons for a small forward is not bad.
Hardly Moneyball!
Just because he is from another club doesn't mean it's Moneyball (even if you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS) :lol :thumbsup
Doesn't really matter anyway YABB, we haven't got the balls!
It takes bigger balls to pick them young and develop them ourselves IMHO.
Neither you nor claw has conceded that he scored the goals with Betts in the side and his loss of "form" has coincided with Betts leaving.
Coincidence?
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Straight swap for Shankwards would be a "win" of sorts.
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I'd prefer to go to the draft for a indigenous kid. We might get lucky and get the next Stevie Motlop ? Although more likely we'll pick someone like Relton ' Burger King ' Roberts or Troy ' porridge ' Taylor ;D
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Get a Geelong one instead :cheers
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
Lol!!!!!
I compared him to Edwards because I'm saying they are both bad.!!!!
How many goals would a mentally weak player like Garlett kick after he has contracted Tigeritis?
I'd rather recruit a young talented indiginous player than another Carlton reject.
NO MORE MONEYBALL!!!
Averaging 40 goals a season for 4 seasons for a small forward is not bad.
Hardly Moneyball!
Just because he is from another club doesn't mean it's Moneyball (even if you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS) :lol :thumbsup
Doesn't really matter anyway YABB, we haven't got the balls!
It takes bigger balls to pick them young and develop them ourselves IMHO.
Neither you nor claw has conceded that he scored the goals with Betts in the side and his loss of "form" has coincided with Betts leaving.
Coincidence?
It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
As for picking our own, that hasn't worked for a long time now has it!
As I said before no point taking about it because I don't think we have the guts to take another Carlton footballer after the last disaster.
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hmm jeff garlett.
1/ still only 24.
2/ is a bona fide goal kicker at afl level. 39, 48, 29, 43, goals in his previous 4 seasons. what sml fwd have we had who can do that.
IF and thats A BIG if with hartley, garlett can be bought to the club on the CHEAP. he would be a massive upgrade on any SML FWD WE RICHMOND HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YRS.
What the eff do you want a sml fwd to do??? whats that i hear??? regularly kick goals, kick em out of his arse at times well garlett certainly fits that bill and imo he has upside.
now what to give up. certainly not picks 3, 21 or 39. offer em up a player. give em peaheart and we get drat pick upgrades.
I don't agree. He kicked those goals because all efforts were on Betts. Guess what, we don't have a Betts.
What has he done this year without him? Twelve goals from 9 games. And he is playing in a side that is playing slightly better than us.
He is mentally weak. We don't need another one of those!
Ps Shank Edwards has kicked 13 goals!
your entitled to your opinion even if i disagree with it. lol shamk edwards. as a sml goal kicking fwd garlett actually has the runs on the board. yes hes having a lousy yr in all areas not just kicking goals.
if he was cheap as a sml goalkicking fwd he without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in god knows how long. and thats based on performance no other thing .
its hilarious here we hve a bloke whos having a poor yr but been very consistent till this yr yet we have our own players who for yrs on end do nothing but show a little bit in oine yr and they are good players.
with so many of you blokes its all about what you see now and you get sucked in hook line and sinker. id suggest you look constantly at what players have done for the entirety of their careers and you may get a better idea when comparing them .
unlike hampson this bloke has the runs on the board. for 4 yrs in a row hes kicked goals in a shizen side.name one richmond player of his type who has been better yet alone close to what hes produced as far as hitting the scoreboard goes for 4 yrs in a row.
and dont give me the betts bull poo a lot of the time hes looked a better player than betts. how old is eddie 28 29.
garlett or edwards as a sml fwd based on performance, mate they arent in the same ball park.
. sheesh with logic like that ablett could have a shocking yr next yr and he would be no good.
Well said mate... I'm with you, I think he is a very good small forward. Struggled a little this year being in and out of the side. Not sure he and Mick see eye to eye. Looks to me like he needs a fresh start. Averaging 40 odd goals a season for the last 4 season speaks for itself. We could do a lot worse than Garlett.
As for the S. Edwards comparison :lol and even funnier thinking McDonough will make it as a small forward. Lloyd has him covered and I could beat him in a leg race. :whistle
Lol!!!!!
I compared him to Edwards because I'm saying they are both bad.!!!!
How many goals would a mentally weak player like Garlett kick after he has contracted Tigeritis?
I'd rather recruit a young talented indiginous player than another Carlton reject.
NO MORE MONEYBALL!!!
Averaging 40 goals a season for 4 seasons for a small forward is not bad.
Hardly Moneyball!
Just because he is from another club doesn't mean it's Moneyball (even if you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS) :lol :thumbsup
Doesn't really matter anyway YABB, we haven't got the balls!
It takes bigger balls to pick them young and develop them ourselves IMHO.
Neither you nor claw has conceded that he scored the goals with Betts in the side and his loss of "form" has coincided with Betts leaving.
Coincidence?
It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
As for picking our own, that hasn't worked for a long time now has it!
As I said before no point taking about it because I don't think we have the guts to take another Carlton footballer after the last disaster.
I have seen him play. I have seen him miss the easiest of goals when under pressure.
I say no thanks.
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
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Get a Geelong one instead :cheers
:clapping
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha another monkeyball special
What a legacy
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
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Get real Claw he is lazy and doesnt work hard enough plays one good game in about 8 games.I will freak if we get him after this season.Knowing our footy department they will :banghead.
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
Who says "hissy fit" these days? I bet you also say "oops a disaiy's"
Cannot take you serious when you sound like a 6 year old girl. :thumbsup
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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He's a slight upgrade on Robbie Nahas and he's a year and half younger.
Their career averages aren't much different although Garlett averages a little more in goals per game Robbie gets the ball a little more.
If we are trying to seriously improve the list you'd either disagree with the delisting of Nahas or spend energy getting someone better than Garlett.
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
Who says "hissy fit" these days? I bet you also say "oops a disaiy's"
Cannot take you serious when you sound like a 6 year old girl. :thumbsup
You always have to start denigrating don't you big tone? Can't have a conversation without abuse or name calling coming in to it.
Mate, you're the one that needs to grow up. Maybe your name should be little tone as you remind me of my childhood days when kids used to say "he said that word, ooohhhh, that's a girls word, ooohhh!"
Just act like a mature adult please!
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when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
FFS Claw, I only mentioned McDonough because BT doesn't rate him at all and yet he was able to shut down the player he was talking up as worth recruiting. As YAB said, Garlett's career stats are very similar to Nahas yet everyone on here was glad to see the back of Robbie last year and I don't know what Garlett brings to the table that Nahas didn't. He goes missing in as many games, he's just as unaccountable, and now without a primary small forward to take the heat he has been found seriously wanting. If Malthouse can't get him playing good consistent football then I strongly doubt our sub-standard group of coaches have the ability to do so. I would rather spend the rest of the season persevering with Lloyd and even trying McDonough back in his natural position to see if they have the capacity to step up, and then addressing our needs with kids from the draft if that fails, than taking on another soft, lazy, unaccountable player from another club. For a man as strong on list structures as yourself, I think you would agree we have enough of those types spread through the team!
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
Who says "hissy fit" these days? I bet you also say "oops a disaiy's"
Cannot take you serious when you sound like a 6 year old girl. :thumbsup
You always have to start denigrating don't you big tone? Can't have a conversation without abuse or name calling coming in to it.
Mate, you're the one that needs to grow up. Maybe your name should be little tone as you remind me of my childhood days when kids used to say "he said that word, ooohhhh, that's a girls word, ooohhh!"
Just act like a mature adult please!
Is that a hissy fit? :cheers
Only joking mate, lighten up. :thumbsup
We have to talk about players from other clubs because we are so crap.
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I honestly think some people get their opinions of opposition players from either how opposition players play against RFC or their highlight reels
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I honestly think some people get their opinions of opposition players from either how opposition players play against RFC or their highlight reels
Like everyone's opinion of Eddie Betts?? No one (this forum or the club) wanted him and look at him now, playing some of the best footy of his career!!
Perhaps not enough attention is paid to these types of players and we miss out, story of our recruitment life!!!
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I honestly think some people get their opinions of opposition players from either how opposition players play against RFC or their highlight reels
Like everyone's opinion of Eddie Betts?? No one (this forum or the club) wanted him and look at him now, playing some of the best footy of his career!!
Perhaps not enough attention is paid to these types of players and we miss out, story of our recruitment life!!!
No one wanted Eddie at the price he was asking. 500k. He's not worth that. But he'd look good in our side no doubt.
We need a speedy, small forward. Garlett has shown he is AFL standard at that role. It all comes down to cost. If we can give up what Hampson is worth then go for it. We need to pay those pricks back.
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Also, I am afraid the times have changed, players are going to put bigger prices on their heads, we can thank Buddy for that. Look at what Betts gets, look at what Frawley wants. We have to move with the times or we will miss out. We need to start putting up the cash otherwise we will fall out of the picture completely.
I think gone are the days of saying players are over priced, we will have to pay what they want or ..... :-\
I don't agree with it but its the new world of over priced players
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
My seat on our bandwagon to hell ;D
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I honestly think some people get their opinions of opposition players from either how opposition players play against RFC or their highlight reels
Would explain why some people backed the Hamspud trade....
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We don't need another crumbing forward when have McBean developing in the reserves.
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
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Dayle >
Younger
Cheaper
Rookie
Culture means FA when your last. Would rather wannabe gangster wanker that can play, over half of current list.
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Dayle >
Younger
Cheaper
Rookie
Culture means FA when your last. Would rather wannabe gangster wanker that can play, over half of current list.
My sentiments exactly. If he's anything like Ben Cousins, controversy would probably make him a better player.
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Dimma, Daly, Williams (not Chocco), Hartley and the last 32 years.
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Played for the Northern Bullsnts against us last week and was very average. Do we need another clubs duds (again)?
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
You reckon?
Not a chance in hell that Mick Malthouse would want any of those at the blues.
Would demand better than that or picks
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
hissy fit lol. just gobsmacked at peoples ignorance and for want of a better way of saying it one eyedness.
mate im doing nothing but looking at the blokes performances up to this yr. hes a sml fwd hes expected to kick goals and in that regard hes been very good. . if your chasing a GOAL KICKING SML FWD There arent many better better performed.
get him cheap i kinda think thats the whole idea of the debate, and do the right thing and draft a kid in the nd of similar type or rookie draft who has plenty of pace has good skills and kicks goals.
lol at those saying get someone better. if you took the time to look at his overall performances as a goal kicker there arent many better performed sml fwds to be had. hes shown over a 4 yr stretch just how damaging he can be when it comes to hitting the scoreboard isnt that exactly what we have lacked. hes no unproven product like hampson. and yes i have acknowledged hes having a lousy yr to date but you know what? when you look at his overall performances a blind man can see that this yr is the exception to the rule.
ffs you have silly people on here not wanting him for no other reason than he missed a a sitter in the goal square, or just as bad he had a bad game against mcdonough in the twos, yeah right lets just ignore what went before eh.
its not a hissy fit at all, its incredulity at the stupidity of some. for sure if you dont like him as a player fine but ffs a decent counter argument as to why would not go astray.
and just to finish i have little time for sml players in the game they really have to bring something exceptional to the table for me to usually even look at em, garletts record as far as goal kicking goes demands we at the least respectfully have a good look at what he offers before just willy nilly proclaiming him a dud.
just to finish name just one more effective sml fwd that we have had than garlett in the last 10 yrs. i can think of just nathan brown and he cost picks 6 and 20 to get him.
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garlett is soft, ducks his head in fear too many times
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It coincides with Carlton being 2h1t this year too IMO.
Serious question- have you ever seen him play? Because if you had of, you would know he is a pretty good footballer. You don't kick 40 odd goals in the AFL for the last 4 seasons as a genuine small forward with another "better" small forward taking some of your crumbs. That's as straight forward as it needs to go!
Would that be the same Jeff Garlett who had a 13 possession, 1 point game against us in the 2's this week, getting shut down by Matt McDonough?
when matt manages to ave more than 10 possesions a game for 4 or 5 weeks in a row yet alone ave 4o odd goals a season he may get a bit of credability. some people insist they actually do something before acclaiming them.
cmon smokey as far as kicking goals go for sml fwds over a decent period , in this case the previous 4 yrs, garlett over that period is almost unmatched by any player other than milne and his former team mate betts. for a sml fwd hes been elite when it comes to hitting the scoreboard.
if you gave me the choice at the start of the yr of taking betts or garlett i would have taken garlett.
ffs we scream out for yrs for a GOALKICKING QUICK SMART CRUMBIMG SML FWD. Heres a bloke who fits that bill perfectly who may be on the market who is out of contract and we could get him very cheap, has a proven track record, is still only 24, without doubt would be a massive upgrade on any sml fwd we have had in yrs, and the nuffies here turn their noses up at him. and they tern their noses up at him not based on his over all performances but because hes from carlton, or they would rather draft a kid at pick 60 thats where sml fwds get taken , or god forbid he missed a sitter from the goal square once. unbelievable.
take garlett cheap use a late nd or rookie pick and get a kid in to the system while at it. how hard is it. fair dinkum its time people stopped and had a proper think abouty what they post.
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Just because some of us disagree, doesn't mean you have to throw a hissy fit!
He was good with Betts on a consistent basis. Without Betts he looks lost. I think the two are related but I may be wrong. But then again, you may be wrong! Have you considered that?
hissy fit lol. just gobsmacked at peoples ignorance and for want of a better way of saying it one eyedness.
mate im doing nothing but looking at the blokes performances up to this yr. hes a sml fwd hes expected to kick goals and in that regard hes been very good. . if your chasing a GOAL KICKING SML FWD There arent many better better performed.
get him cheap i kinda think thats the whole idea of the debate, and do the right thing and draft a kid in the nd of similar type or rookie draft who has plenty of pace has good skills and kicks goals.
lol at those saying get someone better. if you took the time to look at his overall performances as a goal kicker there arent many better performed sml fwds to be had. hes shown over a 4 yr stretch just how damaging he can be when it comes to hitting the scoreboard isnt that exactly what we have lacked. hes no unproven product like hampson. and yes i have acknowledged hes having a lousy yr to date but you know what? when you look at his overall performances a blind man can see that this yr is the exception to the rule.
ffs you have silly people on here not wanting him for no other reason than he missed a a sitter in the goal square, or just as bad he had a bad game against mcdonough in the twos, yeah right lets just ignore what went before eh.
its not a hissy fit at all, its incredulity at the stupidity of some. for sure if you dont like him as a player fine but ffs a decent counter argument as to why would not go astray.
and just to finish i have little time for sml players in the game they really have to bring something exceptional to the table for me to usually even look at em, garletts record as far as goal kicking goes demands we at the least respectfully have a good look at what he offers before just willy nilly proclaiming him a dud.
just to finish name just one more effective sml fwd that we have had than garlett in the last 10 yrs. i can think of just nathan brown and he cost picks 6 and 20 to get him.
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Still no comment on his performances without Betts around......
Care to comment?
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Still no comment on his performances without Betts around......
Care to comment?
;D
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Wouldn't give u 2 mcg watered down beers
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
You reckon?
Not a chance in hell that Mick Malthouse would want any of those at the blues.
Would demand better than that or picks
He would take S Edwards but we stuffed up and re signed him!!
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
a used bandaid ;D Just to keep everything in line with Richmonds Moneyball recruiting where Band Aid measures and bandaid recruiting are in full swing ;D
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pisss em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pees em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
what would you pay for him claw? Bc whilst I would jump at getting him on the cheap ie PSD or a late pick we all know that aint going to happen. I wouldn't give up a 2nd or even 3rd rounder for him and I think that's where most of the pushback is coming from, no one would be prepared to pay what carlton will demand
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pees em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
:lol touche!
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lol after all the crying like a baby all we get is touche, ya know theres an old saying put up or shut up.
with that sort of answer, so as not to look any sillier than you already do id suggest you shut up. im happy to debate the pros and cons of just about any debate on footy but it really does stop with childishness.
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lol after all the crying like a baby all we get is touche, ya know theres an old saying put up or shut up.
with that sort of answer, so as not to look any sillier than you already do id suggest you shut up. im happy to debate the pros and cons of just about any debate on footy but it really does stop with childishness.
I thought the same. :thumbsup And just couldn't be bothered....
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lol after all the crying like a baby all we get is touche, ya know theres an old saying put up or shut up.
with that sort of answer, so as not to look any sillier than you already do id suggest you shut up. im happy to debate the pros and cons of just about any debate on footy but it really does stop with childishness.
Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
As for Garlett….
Positives: Pace, reads the ball off the hands well and can kick goals (at least in the past). Plays well when the side plays well. Good when not much attention is paid to him.
Negatives: Mentally weak - when he is having a bad day he can rarely contribute in any other way on the field and is generally a liability. Struggles when he has the opposition's best small forward defender on him (hence why he has done poorly without Betts). Poor defensively, especially when he is having a bad day offensively. Can miss the most basic goals at time and takes the wrong option frequently.
Bottom line for me (as with any player) is that his best and his worst are far too far apart!!!!!!
We already have enough of those types for my liking.
As for you big tone, what is your excuse for not answering my question? At least claw had the decency to answer. You just sit there in the gallery and take pot shots with name calling and the like.
You'd be a nightmare to live with if you behave the same way at home as you do on this forum!
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pees em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
what would you pay for him claw? Bc whilst I would jump at getting him on the cheap ie PSD or a late pick we all know that aint going to happen. I wouldn't give up a 2nd or even 3rd rounder for him and I think that's where most of the pushback is coming from, no one would be prepared to pay what carlton will demand
Your spot on but I would give up a late 3rd rounder around 50 and the scum wouldn't go for that. He would be an upgrade on shedwards.
But honestly I'd rather the recruiting dept spend their time on getting kids and finding a half forward and another tall down back. A really good kick out of defense would help too. Just generally add talent to the defense please.
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
You reckon?
Not a chance in hell that Mick Malthouse would want any of those at the blues.
Would demand better than that or picks
He would take S Edwards but we stuffed up and re signed him!!
Malthouse would take S Edwards? As JP McEnroe would say "you can't be serious"
Not a chance
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
You reckon?
Not a chance in hell that Mick Malthouse would want any of those at the blues.
Would demand better than that or picks
He would take S Edwards but we stuffed up and re signed him!!
Malthouse would take S Edwards? As JP McEnroe would say "you can't be serious"
Not a chance
Well then, that goes to show how crap our team is really doesn't it!!!
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what are people willing to give up for Garlett?
Must be players, no picks.
Foley
Houli
Batch
Helbig
Grigg (but won't happen)
They would entice the scum.
You reckon?
Not a chance in hell that Mick Malthouse would want any of those at the blues.
Would demand better than that or picks
He would take S Edwards but we stuffed up and re signed him!!
Malthouse would take S Edwards? As JP McEnroe would say "you can't be serious"
Not a chance
Well then, that goes to show how crap our team is really doesn't it!!!
Ask yourself this and be 100% honest
If your Carlton and you wanted to trade Garlett to the RFC what or who would you want to get the deal done?
Guarantee it ain't S Edward, Houli or Foley
You'd want and demand a 2nd round pick or a player(s)
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Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
You're a flog
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Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
You're a flog
Clarify. I was in my car about to take off from my parking spot. I wasn't driving.
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I'm driving, reading and writing this as I'm talking on the phone while having a shave and I think you're both flogs
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I'm driving, reading and writing this as I'm talking on the phone while having a shave and I think you're both flogs
Why?
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I would presume he is talking on the phone because he received a call
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pees em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
what would you pay for him claw? Bc whilst I would jump at getting him on the cheap ie PSD or a late pick we all know that aint going to happen. I wouldn't give up a 2nd or even 3rd rounder for him and I think that's where most of the pushback is coming from, no one would be prepared to pay what carlton will demand
look im just talking about his performances as a sml fwd and where he sits in relation to us. he would be based purely on performance a pretty big upgrade on any sml fwd that we have had in a long while.
what would i pay for him. certainly not 1st 2nd or 3rd round nd picks. so that leaves only a player swap.
id look at something like one of vickery or griffiths for him . reckon vickery has some currency regardless of how myself and others rate him.
the talls always seem to hold value just look at hampson,
perhaps vickery and our 3rd rounder for garlett and their 2nd rounder. they need a tall fwd we need a sml fwd. we have mcbean, vickery and griffiths we can afford to offload one of these types.
if this was to happen i would not hesitate to use the 2nd rounder we get on a real tall fwd.
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Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
You're a flog
Clarify. I was in my car about to take off from my parking spot. I wasn't driving.
Well I'm a :wallywink. Although that means you could of done more than text ;)
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lol after all the crying like a baby all we get is touche, ya know theres an old saying put up or shut up.
with that sort of answer, so as not to look any sillier than you already do id suggest you shut up. im happy to debate the pros and cons of just about any debate on footy but it really does stop with childishness.
Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
As for Garlett….
Positives: Pace, reads the ball off the hands well and can kick goals (at least in the past). Plays well when the side plays well. Good when not much attention is paid to him.
Negatives: Mentally weak - when he is having a bad day he can rarely contribute in any other way on the field and is generally a liability. Struggles when he has the opposition's best small forward defender on him (hence why he has done poorly without Betts). Poor defensively, especially when he is having a bad day offensively. Can miss the most basic goals at time and takes the wrong option frequently.
Bottom line for me (as with any player) is that his best and his worst are far too far apart!!!!!!
We already have enough of those types for my liking.
As for you big tone, what is your excuse for not answering my question? At least claw had the decency to answer. You just sit there in the gallery and take pot shots with name calling and the like.
You'd be a nightmare to live with if you behave the same way at home as you do on this forum!
My excuse for not answering your question is I couldn't be bothered. I find debating anything football with you :sleep
And to be totally honest, you had said what you thought and I had said what I thought, we didn't need to keep going round in circles. Claw had given you stats to back what we thought, you gave us your opinion.
I called you a 6 year old girl, in jest, for saying "hissy fit" and you think I was being abusive. Harden up mate, some of the things others say must make you cry like a baby.
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C'mon guys back to the topic
We already got the Griggster from the Blues and should be satisfied with how that went down
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FFS. The guy is 24 and with no injuries. He should be at the peak of his powers, not languishing in the magoos!
Why isn't he tearing it up? What's the excuse?
I say he can't play consistently well without Betts. He can't handle the number 1 small defender.
What does big tone and claw say?
Common, give us your explanation on what is his problem since you want us to recruit him.
The floor is yours!
when people start having hissy fits demanding answers i usually ignore em just to pees em off even more.
hmm in answer to your question i have no idea as to why garlett is having a poor yr. there could be lots of reasons. do i think the absence of betts makes it a bit harder yeah in some ways. but theres a flip side to that as well. where it should be benificial to him.
its laughable with posters like you. we could have a bloke who does nothing for 4 yrs and then has one good yr and hes a keeper hes a damn fine player.
yet here we have a player who unlike a lot of our players has actually strung 3 or 4 good yrs together and as soon as hes in a form slump hes a dud. fair dinkum i dont get it.
when we asses players what the hell do we asses them on. like i said there are some serious immbeciles on this site who dont have one iota of common sense to save themselves.
what i would like to know is what expectations do you have for a sml fwd. how many goals is acceptable what attributes goal sense pace reads the play well. sure garlett has some weaknesses he could improve on but as a sml fwd he ticks most boxes for me.
whats left, just performance and his performances over a pretty sustained period performing a role has been pretty darn good.
cmon you demand answers you rate his performances overall you rate his wstrengths and weaknesses and tell us all what you dont like or even better what hes doesnt do well or lacks in.
what would you pay for him claw? Bc whilst I would jump at getting him on the cheap ie PSD or a late pick we all know that aint going to happen. I wouldn't give up a 2nd or even 3rd rounder for him and I think that's where most of the pushback is coming from, no one would be prepared to pay what carlton will demand
look im just talking about his performances as a sml fwd and where he sits in relation to us. he would be based purely on performance a pretty big upgrade on any sml fwd that we have had in a long while.
what would i pay for him. certainly not 1st 2nd or 3rd round nd picks. so that leaves only a player swap.
id look at something like one of vickery or griffiths for him . reckon vickery has some currency regardless of how myself and others rate him.
the talls always seem to hold value just look at hampson,
perhaps vickery and our 3rd rounder for garlett and their 2nd rounder. they need a tall fwd we need a sml fwd. we have mcbean, vickery and griffiths we can afford to offload one of these types.
if this was to happen i would not hesitate to use the 2nd rounder we get on a real tall fwd.
agree he'd be better than anything we have and by a fair margin. Whether the blues would go for someone like Vickery/Griffiths I don't know but nice work :thumbsup
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lol after all the crying like a baby all we get is touche, ya know theres an old saying put up or shut up.
with that sort of answer, so as not to look any sillier than you already do id suggest you shut up. im happy to debate the pros and cons of just about any debate on footy but it really does stop with childishness.
Mate I was in the car driving when I read it. Could hardly text any more than what I did. Fair suck of the sausage!!!
As for Garlett….
Positives: Pace, reads the ball off the hands well and can kick goals (at least in the past). Plays well when the side plays well. Good when not much attention is paid to him.
Negatives: Mentally weak - when he is having a bad day he can rarely contribute in any other way on the field and is generally a liability. Struggles when he has the opposition's best small forward defender on him (hence why he has done poorly without Betts). Poor defensively, especially when he is having a bad day offensively. Can miss the most basic goals at time and takes the wrong option frequently.
Bottom line for me (as with any player) is that his best and his worst are far too far apart!!!!!!
We already have enough of those types for my liking.
As for you big tone, what is your excuse for not answering my question? At least claw had the decency to answer. You just sit there in the gallery and take pot shots with name calling and the like.
You'd be a nightmare to live with if you behave the same way at home as you do on this forum!
My excuse for not answering your question is I couldn't be bothered. I find debating anything football with you :sleep
And to be totally honest, you had said what you thought and I had said what I thought, we didn't need to keep going round in circles. Claw had given you stats to back what we thought, you gave us your opinion.
I called you a 6 year old girl, in jest, for saying "hissy fit" and you think I was being abusive. Harden up mate, some of the things others say must make you cry like a baby.
It's not a matter of hardening up. It's a matter that you are just plain rude!
Even now, you admit to calling me a 6 year old girl and then immediately call me a cry baby.
Mate stop the name calling and get back to the facts.
Both you and claw have not responded to the two important facts I brought up. I agree with much of what claw says but he too, like you, is intolerant of others with differing opinions.
Neither of you have really answered why he has been so poor without Betts. I also made the comment that his best and worst is too far apart. Those sort of players are rarely found in successful/premiership sides. Why do you want another player like that in our team?
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Jeff Gartlett ain't getting us off the bottom of the ladder.
FACT!
Nothing really to debate, if we can get him for nothing, it could shift a chair or two in the good ship Titanic but there are bigger things to worry about
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Garlett is the type we need to add some bite, bare in mind we could get Leroy Jetta for FA , similar kind of players no?
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Garlett is the type we need to add some bite, bare in mind we could get Leroy Jetta for FA , similar kind of players no?
Leroy Jetta is a bigger no than what Garlett is.
No to both.
I'd rather have Dane Zorko from Brisbane. :thumbsup
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Jeff Gartlett ain't getting us off the bottom of the ladder.
FACT!
Nothing really to debate, if we can get him for nothing, it could shift a chair or two in the good ship Titanic but there are bigger things to worry about
by himself of course he wont get us off the bottom. sheesh by itsself pick 2 3 4 or 5 or what ever the pick we get is, wont get us off the bottom.
but find a decent sml fwd, find a combative competetive decent kp fwd. find a real good big bodied kpd find two or 3 real good mids and one or two other types and as a collective they will get us off the bottom.
we cant fix all the problems in one go there are just too many.and if we take exclusively kids we can wait 3 or 4 yrs before we get anything consistent or substantial out of em.
i look at this site and others and i dont believe for one second that richmond people would have the patience to go back to the bottom for another 3 yrs, they are forever screaming out for results right now.
if people think next yr things will just magically turn around they are kidding themselves. especially if we take nothing but 18 yr olds. im happy to take nothing but kids but if we do i know it will take time.
i keep on saying it go to the draft with our first 4 or 5 picks and take the best quality kids we can get our hands on. then address a few serious needs by taking one or two mature types if possible with f/a, psd late nd, trade, or rookie draft.
swap vickery or griffiths for garlett with an upgrade of picks. that fixes a problem, take the best most accomplished player we can in f/a, look hard at the state league lads and look hard at players not getting a go at other clubs especially gws and gcs. it aint hard to do.
personally id like to see us cut and trade 9 or 10 players including rookies. id like to see 6 or 7 juniors bought into the club and 3 or 4 mature types.
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Small forward Jeff Garlett's struggle to regain form continued with the speedster gathering just the five disposals [in the VFL].
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-29/around-the-leagues-waite-injures-hip
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Fits the monkeyball strategy perfectly
Dud
Can't get a kick at current club
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Kicked over 40 goals in 2013 , what's that say ::)
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perhaps if you read through the thread you will find where some have stated what that says
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Small forward Jeff Garlett's struggle to regain form continued with the speedster gathering just the five disposals [in the VFL].
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-29/around-the-leagues-waite-injures-hip
Wtf how does someone only get 5 possies in a game of football, must have went off injured
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Richmond likes to recruit poo. The supporters wont put up with this poo much longer. The Richmond Football Department should either get good players or pee off to other clubs at least their they can stuff up other clubs and not us anymore.
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Agree the poo has to stop somewhere
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Agree the poo has to stop somewhere
Laverton?
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Agree the poo has to stop somewhere
Laverton?
Yes right there :clapping
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so where are we at when it comes to sml fwds.
imo jake king not playing due to injury, and just a vfl player to go with it is the best sml fwd we have on our list. what a sad state of affairs.
without a doubt there is a need for both a mature sml fwd and a junior.
cut king cut banfield and you have your like for like room on the list to at the least try improve this area.
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so where are we at when it comes to sml fwds.
imo jake king not playing due to injury, and just a vfl player to go with it is the best sml fwd we have on our list. what a sad state of affairs.
without a doubt there is a need for both a mature sml fwd and a junior.
cut king cut banfield and you have your like for like room on the list to at the least try improve this area.
I've watched a lot of Carlton games because my wife and her family are mad Carlton, and I have seen plenty of Jeff Garlett and I have seen him play some really good footy. Not his best year this year but all players go through form slumps. I would snap him up in a heart beat if we could organize a trade to get him. I can garrentee you he will play good footy again.
Then as Claw says draft a young kid to develop too.
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Would rather draft Jarrod Garlett.
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Would rather draft Jarrod Garlett.
Could do both.
Where do you think he would go in the draft?
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Would rather draft Jarrod Garlett.
Could do both.
Where do you think he would go in the draft?
Anywhere from to second to fourth round has been the word until now but I'd say his stocks have risen considerably after today. Absolutely killed it.
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Richmond likes to recruit poo. The supporters wont put up with this poo much longer. The Richmond Football Department should either get good players or pee off to other clubs at least their they can stuff up other clubs and not us anymore.
Guilt by association? Nice one
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Would rather draft Jarrod Garlett.
Could do both.
Where do you think he would go in the draft?
If Jarrod Garlett becomes the next Eddie Betts, I wouldn't say no to Jeff!