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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ox on June 03, 2004, 08:05:24 PM
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Richmond has picked a famous name, Kelvin Moore, for his first game. The 20 year old from Healesville, no relation to the former champion Hawthorn full-back of the same name, comes off the Tiger rookie list.
Good luck young fella ! ;)
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:)
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LMAOOOOOOOOOO@Not even reading the article properly and thinking it was Tuck.
IDIOT. ::)
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Some know it alls were saying that we couldnt promote a rookie, well guess what , we have ;)
Another one will be promoted in a month.
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At this stage Jakstar it's the only way to go.
Go the kids.
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I've never seen the youngster play. What can we expect of him? Any one willing to predict that he could be something special? Or will he be the second coming of Royce Vardy?
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I'll tip him as the next Mick Malthouse.
LMAOO@Royce Vardy coming twice.
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Hey John f,
He is a bit like Dustin Flecther.
He is ok actually.
Would say he could be permanent full=back next year.
That will put Dr Who in the poohouse. ha
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Dr Who -Hilarious Jak.
Never heard that one before.
LMAO
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Cheers Jackstar,
If he turns to be half as good as Dustin Fletcher I'll be happy.
lmfaooo@Dr Who
Good to have you aboard the OER express, by the way.
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IMO Kelvin Moore is not tall enough to be a regular full back. At the moment he has been playing full back for Coburg and doing well despite giving away few centimeters. His main strength is his reading of the play. Currently he is a bit light and needs to add some muscle mass. Also his hardness and intensity is a concern but that is understandable at this stage of his development.
I hope he can develop into a half back in the mould of a Wellman/McPhee/Hart/McKenna type player. I beleive he has the skill/smarts and the awarness to do so, but will need to be developed carefully and encouraged to attack. I hope he doesn't become another Kellaway/Gaspar type who are only concerned about stopping and scragging their man with no emphasis on providing an attacking running option.
He does look a likely type - raw talent one would say - in that he naturally has good awareness, reading of the play and decent skills. How he is developed from now on will dictate how good he becomes. In the next few years I would like to see him add muscle and strength, and concentrate on adding more urgency and "burst" into his game. At the moment he looks a bit too relaxed - a bit like Bowden. I hope he gets out of this perceived way he goes about it pretty quickly.
I don't see him as the answer at full back, but can become a tallish, running half back that can cover a 2nd or 3rd tall in defence and also pinch hit up forward.
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When Kel came to Melbourne he lived with a friend of mine for about 12 months. I met him at a bbq and he was a very nice, pretty intelligent kid. Hope he can play footy cos i don't want to start bagging him lol.
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you wont be bagging him ! He might still grow a few inches too, if not a few doses of Viagra will do. ;)
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Thanks for the info Harry the research Hog. Good to hear that he can read the play well. This isn't something that can really be taught and if he's got it then he's half way there.
Would be great if he somehow manages to fill out and increase his intensity a bit. Of course its too early to tell, but just from an intuitive standpoint, do you think he will end up out outshining Jay Schulz?
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His main strength is his reading of the play.
Agree with you here Harry H.
In the Coburg games I have seen he has been very good in this area. really only struggled in the game against Werribee
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Kelvin Moore hasnt been pencilled in for full back next season. On the grapevine I can tell you...Greg Miller has pencilled in a name of a full back who is playing at another club. If we finish on the bottom irrespective of what bigger names may be available in the psd...I believe we will target this bloke. Miller has a plan...and the player I will name in the thread will become an important player in the whole strutcure of tigerland...not only now but for the next 7 or 8 years!
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What player......
What thread..........
What future......................... ;D
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Good to see Moore get a go, and hopefully young Foley who impressed me far more than Rodan last week when he was roving wont be far behind either.
Moore isnt tall enough yet for a KKP but has good hands and judgement and l believe he will make the grade.
The clock is ticking for Blumfield though......
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The player that Miller has pencilled in, is Harris from the Western Bulldogs. ;)
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Moore to debut for Tigers
3 June, 2004
Sportal/Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au
The Tigers have promoted rookie Kelvin Moore to the senior list and added him straight into the line-up for Saturday night's clash against the Kangaroos at Telstra Dome.
Moore, a 188cm and 90kg utility, has been named in the forward pocket.
He's one of three additions to the Tigers line-up along with David Rodan, who's in line to play his 50th game for the club, and Aaron Fiora, who returns after a week out with a hamstring strain.
Ben Marsh, Simon Fletcher and the injured Andrew Kellaway are the players to make way.
The Kangaroos have made four changes, bringing in big men David Hale and Mark Porter, along with forward Leigh Harding and tagger Michael Firrito.
Out of the Kangas' side are John Baird, Ashley Watson, Jess Sinclair and Corey Jones.
Baird, Watson and Michael Stevens are the Kangaroos emergencies.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=153053
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Another one will be promoted in a month.
But which one?
And for the next one would need to put someone (IMO Archibald cause I doubt he'll play this year) on the long term injury list?
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Well done Kelvin on your debut, even though he was beaten on several occasions he showed enough for me to think he has a bit of a future in the yellow and black. As stated previously he does really read the play well and isnt afraid to back himself in and have a crack.
And for a change he looks as though he can actually kick the ball to a target.
Good luck Son.
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Agree Bulluss, a promising debut by Kel. He did some very nice things, was clean with his disposal and wasn't out of his depth in the big league. Play him in the seniors for the rest of the season.
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Yeah great info Hedgehog.
I thought he looked ok too.
I havent been able to get to any Coburg games this year.
I think its time to blood some more youth.
Who else can we look too?
How does Raines and Shane Tuck shape uo?
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Yeah great info Hedgehog.
I thought he looked ok too.
I havent been able to get to any Coburg games this year.
I think its time to blood some more youth.
Who else can we look too?
How does Raines and Shane Tuck shape uo?
Look out for a kid called Nathan Foley. On the rookie list at the moment but definately looks the goods. Reminds me of Steven Milne. Is definately rover material. great hands, reads the play really well and knows how to rove packs. This kid will/should be on our list in near future. If he isn't then there is something definately wrong.
Raines is improving with every game at the moment, but really doesn't stand out for me. As long as he keeps improving then anything is possible.
Tuck has probably been best player for Coburg in the games I have seen. I'm amazed that he hasn't been getting a call up. Team selections are obviously not based on performance. He is a great mark and goes in pretty hard. He's limited in the skills department, but is pretty solid. Similar type to Martin Pike from brisbane. Definately in better form than half of the seniors.
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Tuck has probably been best player for Coburg in the games I have seen. I'm amazed that he hasn't been getting a call up. Team selections are obviously not based on performance. He is a great mark and goes in pretty hard. He's limited in the skills department, but is pretty solid. Similar type to Martin Pike from brisbane. Definately in better form than half of the seniors.
Interestingly I was listening to Sport927 and someone rang and asked why Tuck hadn't been given a go in the seniors.
Anthony Mithen said that he had been wondering that himself and was told that just at the moment Tuck's decision making was just under AFL standard - that was the one part of his game holding him back. But he isn't far away from senior selection. :-\
I found this to be laughable - this implies that the decision making of the likes of Mark (The Golden Turnup) Chaffey, Ray Hall, Darren Gaspar, Kayne Pettifer is up to AFL standard :o Yeah right!
What a joke >:( >:(
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LMAOO @ the Golden Tunip.
Yeah its a disgrace. You can add Rodan to that list. Last week at Coburg he was cringe-able. Every time he got the ball you knew he was gonna stuff up or get run-down.
How about Hilton. I saw his game before his promotion and he was pathetic at best.
Frawley has definately created a division at the club and as long as you are good mates with him you will get a go. Remember McGrath. No wonder the kid got distressed and turned to the drink.
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How about Hilton. I saw his game before his promotion and he was pathetic at best.
Harry H, I try not to mention or even think about Hilton - if there is one player who represents all that is wrong with the RFC at the moment it is Rory Hilton. Doesn't chase, wont tackle, not accountable and gives no seconds efforts - EVER. I could go on but I am trying to enjoy my lunch :P
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Look out for a kid called Nathan Foley. On the rookie list at the moment but definately looks the goods. Reminds me of Steven Milne. Is definately rover material. great hands, reads the play really well and knows how to rove packs. This kid will/should be on our list in near future. If he isn't then there is something definately wrong.
Lets certainly hope so. If Archibald is going to be out for the rest of the year then put him on the injury list and get foley into the action. Heard he is a big kick a good rover and very clean with his disposal. One of the best kicks at Richmond now apparantly. Hope he gets a go soon or next years wizza cup
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Look out for a kid called Nathan Foley. On the rookie list at the moment but definately looks the goods. Reminds me of Steven Milne. Is definately rover material. great hands, reads the play really well and knows how to rove packs. This kid will/should be on our list in near future. If he isn't then there is something definately wrong.
Lets certainly hope so. If Archibald is going to be out for the rest of the year then put him on the injury list and get foley into the action. Heard he is a big kick a good rover and very clean with his disposal. One of the best kicks at Richmond now apparantly. Hope he gets a go soon or next years wizza cup
I wouldn't say he's one of the best kicks in the team - in fact he is an ordinary kick and that is probably his main weakness at the moment. He needs to improve his kicking as he tends to kick floaters. His main strength is his running to position, his clean hands, and awareness and balance. These are key ingredients IMO.
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Senior selection a shock for Moore
7 June, 2004
Matt Burgan
Sportal/exclusive to afl.com.au
When Richmond youngster Kelvin Moore received a phone call from senior coach Danny Frawley informing him that he was set to make his AFL debut against the Kangaroos last Saturday night, the emerging defender admitted he was "speechless".
For Moore, the rookie-list player who was honing his craft with the Coburg Tigers, the promotion was quite simply a bolt out of the blue as he had "no idea" he would be making his AFL debut in round 11.
"I was just rapt to get the call-up from ‘Spud’. We had a few players unfortunately go out with injury and I was just rapt to get the call-up and get the opportunity to play," Moore told Sportal after playing his first game.
"It happened pretty quickly. It happened on Wednesday. I got the call in and then Spud called me and said 'You'll be playing', so I was just rapt. I was speechless on the phone and I didn't know what to say. It's an unbelievable feeling."
"I didn't know what to expect, but it was just an unbelievable feeling - just running out there in front of the crowd, but it was just disappointing not to come away with the win."
But unlike many of his contemporaries, Moore had a slightly different path into the AFL, yet his route has enabled him to play at the highest level.
The 20 year-old, who was Richmond's first selection and the third player chosen in the 2002 rookie draft, was plucked straight out of school football from Yarra Valley Grammar in Melbourne's eastern suburbs, rather than the TAC Cup.
"I didn't play for any of the TAC Cup (sides). My Mum was rapt. I said that I'd concentrate on year 12. I was training with Eastern (Ranges) but then gave that away to concentrate on year 12," Moore said.
"Football was always second to school, but I was just rapt to be seen playing for Yarra Valley.
"I just started playing school footy in year 12 and then got on the rookie list for Richmond.
Moore gained a second year on the rookie list after the defender's 2003 season was rocked by osteitis pubis. He played 10 games in the VFL last year, but missed the final eight matches due to the injury.
"Unfortunately, I was out with osteitis pubis for most of last year and then I was lucky enough to get selected on the rookie list again," Moore said.
"I've been going alright this year and just doing my job down back and then I eventually got the call-up.
"I look at it that all the hard work has paid off."
But despite his alternate journey into the AFL, Moore was still widely known among the recruiting fraternity, with several clubs - including Melbourne, the team he followed as a youngster - sounding him out.
"After the (2002 National AFL) draft - I wasn't expecting anything in the draft - but then I got the call-up from Melbourne and did a bit of pre-season with them and then they said they were going to take me. But then Richmond rang me the night before (the rookie draft) and said 'We'll take you with our first pick'," Moore said.
"(From) other clubs there was (some interest), but not (from) Richmond - I hadn't heard from them until the night before.
"My hope was Melbourne, because I barracked for Melbourne growing up, so I knew the familiar faces down there."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=153673
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Tigers to see more of Kel
3:03:00 PM Thu 10 June, 2004
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Richmond’s Director of Football, Greg Miller, believes promising, young defender, Kelvin Moore, made the ideal AFL debut last weekend from a long-term perspective.
Moore, 19, was rushed into the Tigers’ side for the clash with the Kangaroos after being elevated from the Club’s rookie list to the senior list when Kyle Archibald was placed on the long-term injury list.
He was quite impressive early, showing plenty of poise under pressure, before sheer weight of possessions by the Roos after half-time wore him (and his backline teammates) down.
Miller, however, feels Moore will learn plenty from his first-up appearance at the game’s highest level.
“I thought in the first half he was excellent,” Miller said.
“After half-time, he got blown away by a bigger, stronger player in Leigh Brown. But it was a fantastic education for Kel in that he would have realised from the game that, at 86kg, he’s going to need to put on quite a few kilos to match it with the big, key forwards.
“He’s got the speed, he’s got the courage and he’s got the football nous. Physically, however, he was undersized against Leigh Brown.
“I’m sure he learned so much though, and when he goes into the off-season break, he’ll know exactly why he’s doing the weights and why he has to work on the things he has to work on.”
Miller is confident Moore has the attitude necessary to ensure he takes the next step in his league football career.
“I reckon he will respond well. He’s got the right manner with the way he goes about his football and you’d imagine that he’ll take on board what he’s learnt, and put it into practice.
“To be able to give him the games he’s going to get now this season, is going to stand him in great stead for next year and beyond,” Miller said.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=154249
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Moore proves the system works
10:13:19 AM Thu 22 July, 2004
Paul Gough
Sportal/exclusive to afl.com.au
Richmond youngster Kelvin Moore is living proof the much-vaunted TAC Cup is not the only pathway for youngsters in Victoria to fulfill their AFL dream.
In an era in which it seems virtually every young Victorian drafted each year comes from the prestigious under 18 competition, Moore has proved youngsters can still make it into the AFL through the "side door."
The 20-year-old, who has been most impressive in playing five of the last six games in the seniors for Richmond, walked out on TAC Cup side Eastern Ranges in 2002 but fulfilled his dream of making into the AFL by being selected as a rookie later that season.
And despite missing the second half of last season with oestetis pubis, Moore was retained on the Tigers' rookie list this season after impressing in his few appearances last year for Coburg in the VFL.
Now the 190cm youngster looks to have a long future ahead of him at "Tigerland" given his ability to play in a key position at either end of the ground.
So it is little wonder that Moore was chosen to talk to this year's TAC Cup hopefuls about how to handle the disappointment of not getting drafted.
"I did a talk for them on Tuesday and I was telling a lot of the guys that it's not the end of the world if you don’t get picked up in the draft," he said.
"I was just playing school footy (for Yarra Valley Grammar in Ringwood in Melbourne's far outer east)."
"I did a bit of training with Eastern Ranges but I wasn't enjoying that and I ended up just quitting that and concentrating on year 12."
But then an invitation to train at Melbourne in the hope of being picked up as a rookie list player gave Moore hope he might get a second chance at the big time.
"And then the night before the rookie draft I got a call up from Richmond and they said 'we are taking you tomorrow' in the rookie draft."
After impressing for Coburg in the first half of last year and then the first half of this year after recovering from his groin problems, Moore finally got his senior call-up in round 11 against the Kangaroos.
Already he is averaging nearly four marks a game and has quickly made himself part of the Tigers' line-up.
But one thing has been missing so far in his brief senior career - a win - and Moore can hardly wait to belt out the Tigers' famous theme song after a victory.
"To be in a winning Richmond team is a dream and hopefully that first win will come sooner rather than later," he said.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=161564