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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 13, 2014, 03:02:58 AM
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Richmond too is also understood to be considering the position of contracted midfielder Reece Conca. The West Australian was offered earlier this month to West Coast, who were believed to have initially been lukewarm, but could have a change of heart.
Conca, who was the sixth overall selection in the 2010 national draft, has played 71 games since, including 19 this year where he gathered 25 possessions or more in only three games.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/cats-star-joins-the-lions-midfield/story-fnca0u4y-1227088217266
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And there is that pick we're after :clapping
Offering up an inside mid must mean Trengove is likely?
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And there is that pick we're after :clapping
Offering up an inside mid must mean Trengove is likely?
:huh3
With so much risk attached to Trengove, I'd keep Conca. Would go as far as to say right now Conca is a better player than Trengove
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Would rather keep Conca over some crappy pick right now
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And there is that pick we're after :clapping
Offering up an inside mid must mean Trengove is likely?
:huh3
With so much risk attached to Trengove, I'd keep Conca. Would go as far as to say right now Conca is a better player than Trengove
:facepalm:
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I'd keep Reece, better the devil you know.
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Id be disappointed if we offered conca for a trade to get trengrove in our mids....
conca is not great but does have a bit of run about him compared to trengrove probably not being even able to run....
wed want something decent if conca was to move on :thumbsup
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Id be disappointed if we offered conca for a trade to get trengrove in our mids....
conca is not great but does have a bit of run about him compared to trengrove probably not being even able to run....
wed want something decent if conca was to move on :thumbsup
there's a homesick Victorian boy playing for Wet Coast
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bang!
Christmas has come early.
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I am on the keep Conca wagon. Have to be a great deal.
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I'm on the wait and see train.
How can anyone be for or against the trade until we have seen what we actually can get for him??????????:banghead
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I'm on the wait and see train.
How can anyone be for or against the trade until we have seen what we actually can get for him??????????:banghead
because IMO he is average and the trade/pick will be under 30 you would think, and that is fair and reasonable for him
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Conca was a stuff up for the Richmond FC. Heppell should have been a Tiger. We ended up with a C grade player when we could have had another A grade player in Heppell. The mistakes that our recruiters make are unbelievable. Add Heppell and Parker into our midfield instead of Conca and Batchelor and we be around top 4 for sure. Id trade Conca to WCE for an appropriate deal.
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And there is that pick we're after :clapping
Offering up an inside mid must mean Trengove is likely?
:huh3
With so much risk attached to Trengove, I'd keep Conca. Would go as far as to say right now Conca is a better player than Trengove
Has been just as injury prone. I'm comparing pick 12 and Conca, with pick 23, another around there and Trengove. I like Conca but I don't think he is worth the top 10 pick, so it's like getting his market value plus getting in a like for like.
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
Or nothing..... :whistle ;D
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It would depend what we got for him. If its a top 10 pick then I would say yes but I think this is very unlikely. I wouldn't trade him for a second round pick.
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
If he's on track for a clear preseason - ie no moonboot till January like the last 3 ::) I say keep. If he's scheduled for another surgery then PHO
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It would depend what we got for him. If its a top 10 pick then I would say yes but I think this is very unlikely. I wouldn't trade him for a second round pick.
West Coast have pick 11......
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
If he's on track for a clear preseason - ie no moonboot till January like the last 3 ::) I say keep. If he's scheduled for another surgery then PHO
hes injury free
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It would depend what we got for him. If its a top 10 pick then I would say yes but I think this is very unlikely. I wouldn't trade him for a second round pick.
West Coast have pick 11......
What pick did we get Conca at again??
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It would depend what we got for him. If its a top 10 pick then I would say yes but I think this is very unlikely. I wouldn't trade him for a second round pick.
West Coast have pick 11......
What pick did we get Conca at again??
He was pick 6 in a compromised draft. Probably late teens type pick if you factor in the compromising.
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He was pick 6 in a compromised draft. Probably late teens type pick if you factor in the compromising.
Yep, taken before Caddy, Heppel, Prestia, Gorringe and Lynch.
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Keep Conca. We need to increase the depth in our midfield, not deplete it.
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Agree. Clearly has potential. Needs to develop it.
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He was pick 6 in a compromised draft. Probably late teens type pick if you factor in the compromising.
Yep, taken before Caddy, Heppel, Prestia, Gorringe and Lynch.
:facepalm
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He was pick 6 in a compromised draft. Probably late teens type pick if you factor in the compromising.
Yep, taken before Caddy, Heppel, Prestia, Gorringe and Lynch.
:facepalm
have to agree conca was at best a 2nd round pick. no wonder we cant win flags recruiting like this.
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
west coast aren't stupid
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
No.
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
west coast aren't stupid
Oh yes they are, remember JON :)
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Conca's a flabby little plodder - I'd take West Coast's second rounder on it's own for him.
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What picks do West Coast have?
Sorry I can't look myself at the moment..
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What picks do West Coast have?
Sorry I can't look myself at the moment..
11,32,51 etc
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
Rumour going around (saw it on BF) saying we're going hard for something like this (either Shuey or Gaff). Sam Landsberger and Sam Edmund from the Herald-Sun said it'll more like Conca & 23 for pick 11.
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
Rumour going around (saw it on BF) saying we're going hard for something like this (either Shuey or Gaff). Sam Landsberger and Sam Edmund from the Herald-Sun said it'll more like Conca & 23 for pick 11.
So if we don't do the trengove deal we will get picks 11 and 12 and lose 23 if the conca deal gets done?
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
Rumour going around (saw it on BF) saying we're going hard for something like this (either Shuey or Gaff). Sam Landsberger and Sam Edmund from the Herald-Sun said it'll more like Conca & 23 for pick 11.
So if we don't do the trengove deal we will get picks 11 and 12 and lose 23 if the conca deal gets done?
No, we don't have pick 23...
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Just stuff the fat idiot off stuffn shitman
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I will do the trade if it suits us.Conca wanted to go home last year and we stopped him and it showed on the field his performances were poor.I dont rate him nothing more then a average player and plenty like him in draft and state leagues.
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My instincts tell me Conca can be something. he has these flashes of brilliance ie. bullet passes and knows when its within his capabilities to take a player on. wasn't able to find the goals as much this year (in part due to the awful structure we had in the first half of the year). He helps out Cotch with the grunt work (#1 club for tackles with a 5.1 avg) and had 10 goal assists so he is contributing to the score board.
He's one of the few tigers which doesn't mind getting his hands dirty and considering we don't always come out on top in the contest, I think it's important to keep him.
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I will do the trade if it suits us.Conca wanted to go home last year and we stopped him and it showed on the field his performances were poor.I dont rate him nothing more then a average player and plenty like him in draft and state leagues.
Is this right ?, he certainly wasn't saying that at a function earlier on this year, said he loves Melbourne & wasn't even sure he would go back to WA after his career finished
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Conca wanted to go home last year and we stopped him and it showed on the field his performances were poor.I dont rate him nothing more then a average player and plenty like him in draft and state leagues.
Have no problem with you not rating him
But your assertion that he "wanted to go home and we stopped him" is totally incorrect! So very wrong
WA clubs were after him, they offered him more but he wanted to stay and signed a 3 year deal to stay. He even signed the deal without his manager
He never wanted to leave and to suggest otherwise is as I said wrong
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Hope he goes home. He will at some stage, he has already said that. Better now before WCE find out what we already know. C grade at his peak. Another FJ stuff up.
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straight swap for Gaff ;D
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Robbery if we got Shuey or Gaff.... I rate Conca though, love the way he goes about it. Been a little unlucky with injury and then down on form.
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So ...
Melbourne want to give us Trengove and Pick 23 for our Pick 12 THEN ...
us give Conca and Pick 23 to West Coast for Pick 11?
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Conca's a flabby little plodder - I'd take West Coast's second rounder on it's own for him.
He is hardly flabby.
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It would depend what we got for him. If its a top 10 pick then I would say yes but I think this is very unlikely. I wouldn't trade him for a second round pick.
again based on performances to date, conca is not worth a top 10 pick. not sure if any club would give such a pick up on him.
for mine jack trengove if hes okay injury wise is a better prospect. he makes good decisions he uses the ball well yet to date they have similar output.
reckon conca will be a player for player swap with some steak knives possibly.i cant see reece getting us back into the first rnd of the nd.i know i wouldnt offer up a top 20 pick for him. id be confident i could go to the well and find better with that type of pick.
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Conca is a hard nut,attacks the ball with aggression,but what I think really lets him down is poor skills,and horrible decision making,
For me that means if the deal is right ,offload him
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
na hes on track to be a good solid citizen at best and you know what theres nothing wrong with that,we could do with some plain old good honest consistent players which reece is yet to get to mind,.
for me the lack of awareness and poor decision making are not easy things to correct in fact you either have those traits or you dont. its those things that seperate really good players from the so so types. in fact its these things that enable players to buy time as well.
id be happy to keep conca but i have no problem with the club aimning for better.
probably a tad early to say it but looking like those first rounders of jacksons are startoing to come under pressure. when will we do something abaout this bloke.
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Conca with a full pre season could be anything
na hes on track to be a good solid citizen at best and you know what theres nothing wrong with that,we could do with some plain old good honest consistent players which reece is yet to get to mind,.
for me the lack of awareness and poor decision making are not easy things to correct in fact you either have those traits or you dont. its those things that seperate really good players from the so so types. in fact its these things that enable players to buy time as well.
id be happy to keep conca but i have no problem with the club aimning for better.
probably a tad early to say it but looking like those first rounders of jacksons are startoing to come under pressure. when will we do something abaout this bloke.
Next year is his last :shh
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Robbery if we got Shuey or Gaff.... I rate Conca though, love the way he goes about it. Been a little unlucky with injury and then down on form.
do not want gaff at any price. would not mind us having a crack at scott selwood though.
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So ...
Melbourne want to give us Trengove and Pick 23 for our Pick 12 THEN ...
us give Conca and Pick 23 to West Coast for Pick 11?
laverde ?????.or a player they really want. geez this could be a first jackson identifying a must have player and we actually do something about it. still the gain of one pick would it guarantee the player you want.na your right its nonsensical.
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I will do the trade if it suits us.Conca wanted to go home last year and we stopped him and it showed on the field his performances were poor.I dont rate him nothing more then a average player and plenty like him in draft and state leagues.
Pork pies, sorry he didn't want to go home at all.
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Conca stays, now the Trengove deal is no longer going ahead?
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Conca stays, now the Trengove deal is no longer going ahead?
Have a bit of mail that says watch this space :shh
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Conca stays, now the Trengove deal is no longer going ahead?
Have a bit of mail that says watch this space :shh
Reece is not leaving Richmond.
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Conca stays, now the Trengove deal is no longer going ahead?
Have a bit of mail that says watch this space :shh
Reece is not leaving Richmond.
ok
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Robbery if we got Shuey or Gaff.... I rate Conca though, love the way he goes about it. Been a little unlucky with injury and then down on form.
do not want gaff at any price. would not mind us having a crack at scott selwood though.
Have said somewhere on here before would love Scooter at Richmond, but can never see that happening unfortunately.
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Do you know if Richmond has any interest in any west coast players in exchange for conca?
Superfooty's @adamwbaldwin - A good suggestion by Chris below... Andrew Gaff.
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-trades-port-adelaide-increase-bid-for-paddy-ryder-clubs-circle-rhys-stanley/story-e6frfkp9-1227074447591
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From BF:
Guys I was with Reece for a few hours today and told him that his name popped up on a few Tiger forums and that there were rumours he had been shopped around possibly to the WCE.
He was PHSL and I had to pick him up from the floor as he lost his balance in the process
Once he regained himself he stated, "mate tell the guys I'm not going anywhere and the club has no intentions of moving me on .i'll be there on all cylinders for a while"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/conca-to-west-coast.1079907/page-11#post-35713693
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He was PHSL and I had to pick him up from the floor as he lost his balance in the process
Once he regained himself he stated
Either the bloke telling the story, or reece, or both, are complete tossers if the above is true. What grown man would do that and who would type it that way.
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Keep Conca. Just keep him FFS.
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FHO and his oompa doompah shitman brother.
stuffen spastics
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pardon my ignorance, what's PHSL?
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Peeing himself laughing
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He was PHSL and I had to pick him up from the floor as he lost his balance in the process
Once he regained himself he stated
Either the bloke telling the story, or reece, or both, are complete tossers if the above is true. What grown man would do that and who would type it that way.
Sounds completely made up
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pardon my ignorance, what's PHSL?
Punching
Heads while
Someone's not
Looking
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pardon my ignorance, what's PHSL?
Punching
Heads while
Someone's not
Looking
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Promptly
Hurled
something
Large
??
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Passed
Heppell
Stupid
Losers
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Passed
Heppell
Stupid
Losers
ouch
pay that
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:clapping
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
No.
Surely you would :gobdrop
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
No.
Surely you would :gobdrop
C'mon, why would you want give up a borderline hack and a second rounder for a proven gun? Madness!
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
No.
Surely you would :gobdrop
C'mon, why would you want give up a borderline hack and a second rounder for a proven gun? Madness!
How do we get our hands on Melbourne's pick 23 now the Trengove deal is off? Our second pick is #33 ;).
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Conca & 23 for Shuey ?
No.
Surely you would :gobdrop
C'mon, why would you want give up a borderline hack and a second rounder for a proven gun? Madness!
How do we get our hands on Melbourne's pick 23 now the Trengove deal is off? Our second pick is #33 ;).
Was just talking about the scenario as it would've been and how anyone could be against that....
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
lol most on here have no idea and thus have nothing to offer. most are happy to rip into those who do question what goes on and actually come up with ideas to address the ills of the club. of course people first have to acknowledge theres something wrong to then come up with an idea to help turn things around.
it wont change mate the chicken littles have no balls.they are your typical nuffies who would just walk past a person getting bashed or ignore an old lady hurt in the street, the minute they have to step outside of the safety of the herd they are stuffed.
anyway we are locked and loaded so it doesnt matter premiership next yr doing absolutely nothing and cutting so few it can only mean this.
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I reckon we should have a squizz at Kieran Harper :shh
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I reckon we should have a squizz at Kieran Harper :shh
and delist who there all signed. lol LOCKED AND LOADED.
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I reckon we should have a squizz at Kieran Harper :shh
and delist who there all signed. lol LOCKED AND LOADED.
Pick 12 :shh
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:shh
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:shh :shh
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
lol most on here have no idea and thus have nothing to offer. most are happy to rip into those who do question what goes on and actually come up with ideas to address the ills of the club. of course people first have to acknowledge theres something wrong to then come up with an idea to help turn things around.
it wont change mate the chicken littles have no balls.they are your typical nuffies who would just walk past a person getting bashed or ignore an old lady hurt in the street, the minute they have to step outside of the safety of the herd they are stuffed.
anyway we are locked and loaded so it doesnt matter premiership next yr doing absolutely nothing and cutting so few it can only mean this.
Hilarious!!! Complain that people have a crack at you and then have a crack at them. Well stuff me, here I was thinking 2 wrongs don't make a right and I was the one in the wrong.
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I'll back him in. Reece is gonna make someone look silly.
Just hope it's not me.
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Conca needs to look at Luke Parker's year (except for the gf) and take some notes.
He needs to up his strength, fitness and durability.
He needs to make more of the time he gets given in the centre square, and needs to be more dangerous when he is sitting on a hff.
He knows how to kick a goal and loves it, let's see him hurt some sides with a 25 goal year.
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He's no Chris Newman
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Would like Reece to make me look silly.
I've never rated him. Have never seen this toughness that so many people rave about. To me he's just an average footballer, the likes of which should still be available in the second and third rounds. Was a pick wasted, even in a compromised draft.
Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. But I doubt it.
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From BF:
Guys I was with Reece for a few hours today and told him that his name popped up on a few Tiger forums and that there were rumours he had been shopped around possibly to the WCE.
He was PHSL and I had to pick him up from the floor as he lost his balance in the process
Once he regained himself he stated, "mate tell the guys I'm not going anywhere and the club has no intentions of moving me on .i'll be there on all cylinders for a while"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/conca-to-west-coast.1079907/page-11#post-35713693
What is the acronym PHSL?
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
I don't need to share my opinion because I am not the one criticising the club, however, maybe I like the sit and wait approach anyway.
I just get worn down by constant negative comments about the club. That doesn't mean I am happy or am an apologist.
Too many people have said have said we, as a club are happy with our list. We don't know that. How do we know what went on in there? We don't.
Another thing, we sit here and type like experts, thinking we know more than the recruiting staff. Fact is, we don't. We are just mug punters who know nothing personally of the players and what makes them tick. If we did, we would be doing their job.
Imagine having some amateur upstart walk into your work and criticise your job because they seen it done on t.v. a few times.
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Not sure how much he knows, but Trout yesterday wrote he is still hearing murmurings of Conca and 12 for Selwood and eagles 2nd pick
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Not sure how much he knows, but Trout yesterday wrote he is still hearing murmurings of Conca and 12 for Selwood and eagles 2nd pick
Is that the Selwood that had a complete ankle reconstruction this year?
Do we want him? :nope
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Dud
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Oi you cheeky prick lol thats my picture
Man that freaked me out I thought I had been hacked for a sec lol :lol
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SEN just said there was word earlier in the trade period that West Coast chased Conca but it went nowhere.
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Would like Reece to make me look silly.
I've never rated him. Have never seen this toughness that so many people rave about. To me he's just an average footballer, the likes of which should still be available in the second and third rounds. Was a pick wasted, even in a compromised draft.
Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. But I doubt it.
x 2 to a tee. but just wait until he finally has a 30 plus possesion game and snags a few goals has a blinder. you can see it now all and sundry hanging their hats off it for another 12 months.
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Would like Reece to make me look silly.
I've never rated him. Have never seen this toughness that so many people rave about. To me he's just an average footballer, the likes of which should still be available in the second and third rounds. Was a pick wasted, even in a compromised draft.
Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. But I doubt it.
x 2 to a tee. but just wait until he finally has a 30 plus possesion game and snags a few goals has a blinder. you can see it now all and sundry hanging their hats off it for another 12 months.
There's already enough people still hanging their hats on his blind turn/dummy against Geelong as it is....
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
I don't need to share my opinion because I am not the one criticising the club, however, maybe I like the sit and wait approach anyway.
I just get worn down by constant negative comments about the club. That doesn't mean I am happy or am an apologist.
Too many people have said have said we, as a club are happy with our list. We don't know that. How do we know what went on in there? We don't.
Another thing, we sit here and type like experts, thinking we know more than the recruiting staff. Fact is, we don't. We are just mug punters who know nothing personally of the players and what makes them tick. If we did, we would be doing their job.
Imagine having some amateur upstart walk into your work and criticise your job because they seen it done on t.v. a few times.
the trouble with that is ive seen many upstart amateurs do better than those we pay good money to get recruiting right.
they get criticised because their RECORDS ARE SO SHIZEN. A kid off the street could do just as well.
maybe some of those amateurs should be interviewed eh.
oh and we can determine how hard and serious we were about f/a and the trade period. nearly everyone was resigned before the trade period began. the options were very few.
you dont need to be in the inner sanctum to know you just need to use a bit of common sense and a few basic deductions.
mate you may say your not happy and not an apologist but id label you a typical fence sitter.
as for the players theres only one real question that has to be asked.and that is can they play consistently well at the level. i sure as hell dont need the club to tell me that.
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and.........................................................................................I still don't like him.
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Not sure how much he knows, but Trout yesterday wrote he is still hearing murmurings of Conca and 12 for Selwood and eagles 2nd pick
Is that the Selwood that had a complete ankle reconstruction this year?
Do we want him? :nope
good player. typical eastern staters with no idea. keep the duds ignore the good players. selwood is so far in front of conca it aint funny. even in a yr on one leg hes outperformed him easily.
but hey its the same group who think matt priddis is a dud.
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but hey its the same group who think matt priddis is a dud.
Won myself a bit of money with that one ;)
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:sleep
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Shuey in a Tiger jumper at the expense of Conca would be the 3rd fappening :shh
Won't happen, the whingers say that we are not trying to improve our list.
Why don't you offer an opinion about the club yourself instead of just making cracks and whinging about other people's opinions? We already have Chucky for that schtick.
I don't need to share my opinion because I am not the one criticising the club, however, maybe I like the sit and wait approach anyway.
I just get worn down by constant negative comments about the club. That doesn't mean I am happy or am an apologist.
Too many people have said have said we, as a club are happy with our list. We don't know that. How do we know what went on in there? We don't.
Another thing, we sit here and type like experts, thinking we know more than the recruiting staff. Fact is, we don't. We are just mug punters who know nothing personally of the players and what makes them tick. If we did, we would be doing their job.
Imagine having some amateur upstart walk into your work and criticise your job because they seen it done on t.v. a few times.
the trouble with that is ive seen many upstart amateurs do better than those we pay good money to get recruiting right.
they get criticised because their RECORDS ARE SO SHIZEN. A kid off the street could do just as well.
maybe some of those amateurs should be interviewed eh.
oh and we can determine how hard and serious we were about f/a and the trade period. nearly everyone was resigned before the trade period began. the options were very few.
you dont need to be in the inner sanctum to know you just need to use a bit of common sense and a few basic deductions.
mate you may say your not happy and not an apologist but id label you a typical fence sitter.
as for the players theres only one real question that has to be asked.and that is can they play consistently well at the level. i sure as hell dont need the club to tell me that.
I am not sure if I agree that I am a fence sitter.
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Apparently the red wog was offered three way deal for pick #3
Probably packaged if 12
Assuming that wasn't traded for armiage
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but hey its the same group who think matt priddis is a dud.
Geez you make some sweeping BS statements sometimes, Claw.
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Not sure how much he knows, but Trout yesterday wrote he is still hearing murmurings of Conca and 12 for Selwood and eagles 2nd pick
Is that the Selwood that had a complete ankle reconstruction this year?
Do we want him? :nope
good player. typical eastern staters with no idea. keep the duds ignore the good players. selwood is so far in front of conca it aint funny. even in a yr on one leg hes outperformed him easily.
but hey its the same group who think matt priddis is a dud.
Don't think anyone said Priddis was a dud, I believe the reference was that he was the worst B&F winner since Woewodin, FFS he didn't even win his clubs B&F so take it up with the Cokers if u must and don't tell lies