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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: the claw on November 03, 2014, 09:48:54 PM
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yep we have more rookie picks than nd picks, does anyone have a player or players in mind or even type of player.
i actually have a few in mind and im sure the list will grow when kids i like dont get drafted.
can think of three ruckmen would look at one possibly two. can think of a few x factor types and theres one or two state leaguers id like us to look at.
okay ill start two ruckmen in wa i like.
darcy cameron a kid i wanted us to take last yr.imo is tracking along nicely and could go in the nd with a late pick.
then thers a bloke at south freo 203/101 cameron loersch just see some good signs in this bloke.
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yep we have more rookie picks than nd picks, does anyone have a player or players in mind or even type of player.
i actually have a few in mind and im sure the list will grow when kids i like dont get drafted.
can think of three ruckmen would look at one possibly two. can think of a few x factor types and theres one or two state leaguers id like us to look at.
okay ill start two ruckmen in wa i like.
darcy cameron a kid i wanted us to take last yr.imo is tracking along nicely and could go in the nd with a late pick.
then thers a bloke at south freo 203/101 cameron loersch just see some good signs in this bloke.
Agree. Two of the five should be ruckmen.
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yep we have more rookie picks than nd picks, does anyone have a player or players in mind or even type of player.
i actually have a few in mind and im sure the list will grow when kids i like dont get drafted.
can think of three ruckmen would look at one possibly two. can think of a few x factor types and theres one or two state leaguers id like us to look at.
okay ill start two ruckmen in wa i like.
darcy cameron a kid i wanted us to take last yr.imo is tracking along nicely and could go in the nd with a late pick.
then thers a bloke at south freo 203/101 cameron loersch just see some good signs in this bloke.
Agree. Two of the five should be ruckmen.
i think if we dont take a tall with our 3 nd picks then 3 even 4 of the 5 rookies should be talls if it can be done and those available warrant it.
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I ould like us to fill our international rookie spots with athletes and teach them AFL. Maybe its crazy but I reckon the game is about athleticism.
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whats going on with our PNG chaps they still around or they taken off?
Mi no amamas true long dispella sumting
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Yugoslavians or africans
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cant tell until the draft leftovers, my mail is we are keeping tabs on plenty. Blair and FJ have every draftee ranked in talent order...we re well placed to scoop the pool....again :clapping
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Well that's the ONE job they have ffs
I'm glad they doing something
Its like saying the lollypop lady pressed the button :shh
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cant tell until the draft leftovers, my mail is we are keeping tabs on plenty. Blair and FJ have every draftee ranked in talent order...we re well placed to scoop the pool....again :clapping
Where's Willy Wonka when you need him! :banghead An Everlasting Gobstopper would come in handy right about now....
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Well, pardon me for interrupting ::) resume normal transmission, talkin BS :lol
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Brady Foster
Robin Nahas
Brock McLean
Draftee
Draftee
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yep we have more rookie picks than nd picks, does anyone have a player or players in mind or even type of player.
i actually have a few in mind and im sure the list will grow when kids i like dont get drafted.
can think of three ruckmen would look at one possibly two. can think of a few x factor types and theres one or two state leaguers id like us to look at.
okay ill start two ruckmen in wa i like.
darcy cameron a kid i wanted us to take last yr.imo is tracking along nicely and could go in the nd with a late pick.
then thers a bloke at south freo 203/101 cameron loersch just see some good signs in this bloke.
A few I like - Shannon Taylor 178cm mid/small forward from Frankston, Jake Owen 191cm utility from Williamstown, Kane Lambert 178cm mid from Williamstown. Have not seen Shane Yarran 186cm from Subiaco live but he looks good in his highlight package. Earlier this year, I will having a coffee in Williamstown and sitting next to me was Luke Williams meeting with Andy Collins and another Willie official. Interesting!! Keeping a keen eye on a few Willie players?
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Agree with Claw on Darcy Cameron, would also like Shane Nelson and a big young KPD to work with. Those three at least. Others - depends on what's left and what list numbers we go with.
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Well Adelaide managed to find themselves two very good KPD's via the rookie list in Rutten - though he was only 190cm and Bock at 193 cm became a good CHB after both initailly being rookied as a forwards, but yes apart from those two that I can immediately think of, you have a point Scarface.......there's been couple of good non- KP defenders as well though like Patfull (who can also play as a key) & Gibson, but again - yes - no real giant KPD's it has to be said.
We still need to somehow shore up our tall defensive stocks IMO, taking into account the aging Chaplin, the uncertainty with Astbury (even Grimes for that matter, considering his own personal and family injury history), the fact clubs are circling Rance and even the delisting of Darrou and it starts to look decidedly thin.
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Walker was pick 75
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yep we have more rookie picks than nd picks, does anyone have a player or players in mind or even type of player.
i actually have a few in mind and im sure the list will grow when kids i like dont get drafted.
can think of three ruckmen would look at one possibly two. can think of a few x factor types and theres one or two state leaguers id like us to look at.
okay ill start two ruckmen in wa i like.
darcy cameron a kid i wanted us to take last yr.imo is tracking along nicely and could go in the nd with a late pick.
then thers a bloke at south freo 203/101 cameron loersch just see some good signs in this bloke.
Apparently some AFL clubs are looking at U19 Aussie cricket captain Paddy McKenna as a rookie. 186cm half forward who kicked 16 in a game for Gisborne U18s then 45 goals in 18 games in seniors.
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Walker was pick 75
my bad re walker
Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Well Adelaide managed to find themselves two very good KPD's via the rookie list in Rutten - though he was only 190cm and Bock at 193 cm became a good CHB after both initailly being rookied as a forwards, but yes apart from those two that I can immediately think of, you have a point Scarface.......there's been couple of good non- KP defenders as well though like Patfull (who can also play as a key) & Gibson, but again - yes - no real giant KPD's it has to be said.
We still need to somehow shore up our tall defensive stocks IMO, taking into account the aging Chaplin, the uncertainty with Astbury (even Grimes for that matter, considering his own personal and family injury history), the fact clubs are circling Rance and even the delisting of Darrou and it starts to look decidedly thin.
Yeah interesting isn't it? a few have come through but looks like slim pickings - don't know what it is with Adelaide but they have a good eye for tall timber.
agree we need to shore up our KP stocks, if a quality one slips in the draft and he's avail at our first pick I hope we take him!
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Agree with Claw on Darcy Cameron, would also like Shane Nelson and a big young KPD to work with. Those three at least. Others - depends on what's left and what list numbers we go with.
mathew sully i have always liked think as a kpd he would be worth rookieing. think hes better than hartigan another i would have liked to see us rookie.
lost contact with him but cameron conlon was one i was hoping could overcome injury and perform well enough to at least get rookied. these guys dont lose their ability they get injured and cant play the ability invariable shines through if they get a good run at it.
i can think of two lads who may not get drafted, ryan lim and jermaine miller - lewis.
i really liked isiah miller last yr but have lost contact on what hes done this yr. i also liked ryan lester - smith hes still only what? 21 and would galdly give him a rookie spot.
yep there are plenty out there imo who are worth giving a go to.and they are all types who meet a need. they may not make it but that is what the rookie draft is about. get em in and see if you cant iron out the weaknesses. nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Walker was pick 75
he was a scholarship player and the crows didnt have to take him early if i have it right.
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Just curious - based on historical data, how many of the competitions premier or even solid B grade KPF's and KPD's have come via the rookie draft? Off the top of my head I cant really think of any.
Roughead, Buddy, Reiwoldtx2, Cameron, Tippett, pavlich, Darling, Carlisle, Sarge, Rance, Talia, Walker etc etc were all highly regarded and taken in the first or 2nd round.
Ruckmen on the other hand - a fair few that come from the rookie list go on to be players. Midfielders the same. Based on that would you almost exclusively draft mids and rucks on your rookie list? Keep your top picks for the blue chip tall talent or trade for one you can build a line around
Walker was pick 75
he was a scholarship player and the crows didnt have to take him early if i have it right.
He was a NSW scholarship player which confused me as to whether Adelaide got dibs on him or not? Even ignoring Walker TM's list does show where the real talent is
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Just a question on Ivan Soldo - do we have to rookie list him or just write his name down somewhere? If we have to rookie list then there goes one pick ...
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Just a question on Ivan Soldo - do we have to rookie list him or just write his name down somewhere? If we have to rookie list then there goes one pick ...
Think he's seperate from the list & and exempt from the salary cap just like an international rookie because he's from a non-AFL background...
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Wouldn't mind getting Sam Grimley. Like Arnot with us, Hawthorn are commited to re-drafting him as a rookie but don't think he's still contracted like Arnot is.
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Aside from Wright and maybe one or two others (Marc Pittonet & Tom Read), most of the young rucks are expected to be still available in the rookie draft.
Billy Frampton, Josh Miller, Braydon Preuss and Peter Spurling are other rucks who may come under consideration late or as rookies. North Ballarat's Rowan Marshall is also in that group, although most clubs view the 198cm player as a key position prospect at the next level.
Of the mature-age options, 21-year-old Paul Hunter has attracted interest from several AFL clubs after a strong season for Redland in the NEAFL.
South Australian Sam Baulderstone – who shed close to 40kg and became a premiership player with Norwood – has also caught the eye of recruiters and looks a possible rookie pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-12/big-men-little-chance
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We have picks 11, 29, 47, 65 & 83 in the rookie draft.
Snoop Dog on BF has done a phantom rookie draft. Here's what he has for our picks ...
#11 Richmond - Bradley Walsh
Club: Peel Thunder
Height: 180cm
Weight: 79kg
Position: Midfielder
Bio: Sam Mitchell clone…..Prolific ball winner who excels around the contest and makes very good decisions and can also direct play from HB. Sounds like Sam? The major issue will be his pace and ability to get on the spread. I like him though seems a natural footballer who is going to have no trouble elevating his game to another level.
#29 Richmond - Nick Mellington
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Height: 187cm
Weight: 88kg
Position: Midfielder
Bio: had a terrific yea as captain of the Bushrangers and was probably their best all year. Was called up to the VFL for Richmond and handled himself well. He is a powerful mid who is a great size and loves to mix it up and win the footy and then switch onto that left foot and push it forward. One thing I like about mids is when they get it and then rather than dish off look to separate from the contest, create space and then go forward. He does that.
#47 Richmond - Ricky Cary
Club: Swan Districts
Height: 196cm
Weight: 88kg
Position: Tall Fwd
Bio: Think Jack Gunston. Tall, skinny, doesn’t look like he could stand up in a contest but so often does. Been a real highlight this year for Swans and kicked some big bags. Plays a tall 3rd fwd type role and just reads the game well and gets to good spots. He is quick and will get separation and is stronger than you think. Has a sense of where the goals are and doesn’t need many touches to hurt.
#65 Richmond - Taylor Grace
Club: Sandringham Dragon
Height: 184cm
Weight: 78kg
Position: Midfielder / HBF
Bio: 19yo who won the B&F last year but failed to get drafted which was somewhat surprising. Bit one paced which would be the only area of concern for him but is becoming a real play maker for the Dragons and is a huge accumulator of the ball with one of the most impressive set of averages in the TAC this year. His ball use by hand or foot is very good.
#83 Richmond - Jake Johansen
Club: Port Adelaide
Height: 171cm
Weight: 63kg
Position: Small midfielder / fwd
Bio: Terrific player for SA at champs and was a bit over shadowed by Daniel. Like Daniel is small but very effective and is an elite runner who will get on transition pretty easily. I think he will end up as a small forward and having seen him play there as well he has huge potential. He has a lot of x factor, reads the game well, knows where to be at spillages and gets goal side regularly. If he can bulk up and get stronger you are looking at a Brent Harvey sort of player.
Full mock rookie draft: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dog-2014-phantom-draft.1081690/
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Hope he's off the mark - seem like good choices but we we really need to rookie another ruck at and a decent sized defender would be nice too. Either way, we won't be taking 5 new rookies as Arnot & Thomas will take up 2 spots.
In other news, heard we're seriously considering picking up Saad....don't know whether it's through the rookie draft or national draft/PSD though.
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Hope he's off the mark - seem like good choices but we we really need to rookie another ruck at and a decent sized defender would be nice too. Either way, we won't be taking 5 new rookies as Arnot & Thomas will take up 2 spots.
In other news, heard we're seriously considering picking up Saad....don't know whether it's through the rookie draft or national draft/PSD though.
by my reckoning its now down to 4 picks if you include arnot as a rookie. arnot was cut basically so we could use pick 70,
4 nd picks will give us 38, thomas arnot plus 4 rookie picks gives us the 44.
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Hope he's off the mark - seem like good choices but we we really need to rookie another ruck at and a decent sized defender would be nice too. Either way, we won't be taking 5 new rookies as Arnot & Thomas will take up 2 spots.
In other news, heard we're seriously considering picking up Saad....don't know whether it's through the rookie draft or national draft/PSD though.
Just to clarify - Adam Saad from Coburg, not Ahmed Saad.
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Dmac rookie ;D
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seems jesse watchman is no real chance of being taken in the nd surely hes worth considering as a rookie. ffs id be prepared to use a nd pick on him.
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Are international rookies in their own category still? U used to be able to have 8 rookies but 4 were internationals.
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
No idea but recall seeing the name chucked around during last year's trade period.
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
Good enough for a rookie spot...would rather take a kid or someone like Shane Nelson though.
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
Full name Ashley Smith
Date of birth 20 July 1990 (age 24)
Original team Dandenong Stingrays (TAC Cup)
Draft 36th pick, 2008 National Draft
Height/Weight 186 cm / 85 kg
Position(s) Midfielder, defender
Ashley Smith (born 20 July 1990) is an Australian rules footballer who previously played for the West Coast Eagles in the Australian Football League (AFL). Making his debut for the club during the 2010 season, he played 45 games as a midfielder and running defender before being delisted at the end of the 2014 season. From Victoria, Smith was recruited from the Dandenong Stingrays in the TAC Cup, and has also played at WAFL level for both Perth and East Perth.
Football career
Smith was accepted into the AIS-AFL Academy before playing for Vic Metro in the National Under-18 Championships. He then represented the Dandenong Stingrays in the TAC Cup, missing most of the first part of the season before starring in the second half, including the preliminary final. At the 2008 AFL Draft Camp, Smith impressed talent scouts with his speed and long-kicking abilities, placing first in the 20 metre sprint, sixth in the 30 metre repeat sprints, and tenth in the standing vertical jump, and consistently kicking over 50 metres.[1] Smith was selected by West Coast with Pick 36 in the 2008 AFL Draft, after being predicted to go as high as the first round.[2] He made his debut for West Coast in round 15 of the 2010 season against Adelaide at Subiaco Oval, gaining 19 disposals and four marks off the half-back flank, and scoring a goal from 55 metres out.[3]
Smith was delisted by West Coast at the end of the 2014 season.[4] He had played at AFL level only twice during the season.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Smith_%28Australian_footballer%29
AFL career stats: http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2034
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2013878436/image.jpg)
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All those dud WC mids look the same. Tanned metrosexuals with stickers.
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Quick and kicks long, don't mind him in theory.
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
Good enough for a rookie spot...would rather take a kid or someone like Shane Nelson though.
no hes not. liked him as a junior but cant kick and makes too many poor decisions. id rather give adam carter a go. not sure why they delisted him he looked okay to me when given a go.
the one i would have targeted was schofield. was unhappy and under simpson was not getting a go.
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Looks like a big fella too
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Ash smith from eagles spotted at training, any good?
Good enough for a rookie spot...would rather take a kid or someone like Shane Nelson though.
no hes not. .
Yes he is. There' more than one kind of rookie - he's the Maric & Banfield variety( he's better than Banfumbles ) - the kind that showed glimpses early on, has been in the system has an asset we need (in this case pace) and are - or at least should be- desperate & hungry for a second chance - the kind you only give one year to prove themselves and pee 'em off if they haven't earnt a permanent upgrade by the end of the season. That's rookie list quality. As long as we keep turning them over. Like I said - would still rather a kid or a Nelson type. Agree about Schofield....havent' seen enough of Carter.
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Mate of mine is heavily involved in the Perth footy club and had this to say about Smith:
He played for my WAFL team Perth before the WAFL/FWCE affiliation with East Perth and struggled to make it there as well. Very slow in the mind and only good at turnovers. When he was delisted by the FWCE, he could have gone back to Perth but they wouldn't offer him a contract so he went back to Vic. Perth finished last and have since lost the coach and 7 players not counting draftees of which we will have at least two and they still didn't want Smith. Just shows our lack of thinking as to the type of players we have an opinion of. Smith isn't quick, turns it over, slow on the think and not very tough yet we have him training. His only asset is he has some great tattoos.
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I had a carpenter working for me for a while and he had a couple of young fellas working for him and one was Ash's brother. I had a couple of chats with him about this brother and how he got to be at West Coast, so after that kept an eye on him due to the young fella I had met. And to be honest didn't rate him at all. Just an average player with not much upside IMO. Surely we can do better.
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Ashley Smith's 4 Goals from the 2011 AFL Season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwQSWcQJT8w
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Pic of Ash Smith training with us:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/players/ashsmith.jpg)
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Still trying to work out why it is that ever since the club said footskills were going to be a priority when targeting players, we've seemigly done the exact opposite and brought in so many poor kicks?
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Nothing new but just confirmation that Matt Thomas (second year) is our only retained rookie for 2015.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/your-afl-clubs-promoted-and-retained-rookies-for-2015/story-fndv7pj3-1227134470641
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Two more youngsters will be added to the Richmond list in next month’s rookie draft.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2014-richmond-says-corey-ellis-helps-build-top-four-quality-midfield/story-fniv6drm-1227137517272)
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Reckon we should rookie Tyler Roos just to pee off his old man.
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Any rucks left ?
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Or a backman??
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or aboriginals?
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Or an idiot??
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excuse me? :stupid
i believe we should be targeting the indigenous types due to stereotypical pace and agility.
even if we have added some i dont think you can have too much. especially given how slow and loping we look at times
no need for such comments
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excuse me? :stupid
i believe we should be targeting the indigenous types due to stereotypical pace and agility.
even if we have added some i dont think you can have too much. especially given how slow and loping we look at times
no need for such comments
I agree and I thought you were being smart...
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me? no...
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We have 4 picks left. One will be Arnot. H/S always with the facts. :lol
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excuse me? :stupid
i believe we should be targeting the indigenous types due to stereotypical pace and agility.
even if we have added some i dont think you can have too much. especially given how slow and loping we look at times
no need for such comments
Apparently Rohan is faster than Jetta at Swans, so would you insist we should take Jetta because he's black?
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Dean McDonald. Put your hand up mate. Its now or never & you know your a tiger
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Dean McDonald. Put your hand up mate. Its now or never & you know your a tiger
Read he'd signed with Coburg Monk
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Still in with a chance: The 10 hopefuls still in the mix for the pre-season and rookie drafts
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 29, 2014
CLUBS are already thinking about next week's NAB AFL Pre-Season and Rookie drafts, assessing the talent that wasn't selected at Thursday night's national intake. Here are 10 names who might be considered.
Peter Bampton (182cm, 83kg, midfielder): A ball-winner who has really solid frame, which means he could step into a club and play a role. Bampton averaged 19 touches in seven senior SANFL games for Norwood this year, having missed the under-18 championships with an ankle injury.
Daniel Capiron (189cm, 81kg, defender): Was overlooked after an inconsistent season where he struggled to find any continuity. But he has shown signs across two seasons of his ability to read the ball in the air, be a good intercept marker across half-back and offer rebound.
Will Fordham (188cm, 78kg, midfielder): Came on towards the end of the season, and a handful of clubs had interest in him late. Fordham played 20 games for the Sandringham Dragons in the TAC Cup and averaged 20 disposals. He carries strong athleticism, a bit of speed and is a nice size for clubs looking for midfield height.
Matt Hammelmann (197cm, 88kg, forward): He can join the Brisbane Lions under the pre-selection rookie rule as a member of their academy. Other clubs might take a look if they don't, as Hammelmann has shown signs he can be used at either end of the ground with success. Mainly it's as a forward, though, where he presents on the lead and kicks well.
Nick Jackson (195cm, 86kg, defender): Jackson is a tall defender who can shut down players, and tends to read the play well in the air. He played just one game at the mid-year carnival for Queensland through injury, but could be an option for a club looking for another young developing tall back.
Tyler Keitel (194cm, 86kg, forward/defender): Spent the season pushing back and forward, and showing he could play a role at either end. His athleticism is what might hold him back, but given his versatility a club might see something to work with.
Oleg Markov (186cm, 69kg, forward): Having broken his collarbone twice this year, Markov's limited exposure would have contributed to him not being drafted. A club might be better placed to take him on as a rookie, given his speed and athletic ability in the forward line and midfield.
Rowan Marshall (198cm, 87kg, ruckman): Marshall has played as a ruckman, but at his height clubs see him more as a tall forward at the next level who can also shift into defence. He was overlooked at last year's draft and returned to play some strong footy for Vic Country and the North Ballarat Rebels.
Braydon Preuss (205cm, 102kg, ruckman): The rookie draft is where recruiters will take more of a look at ruckmen, with Preuss on the radar of several clubs. The towering Quuenslander doesn't collect heaps of the ball but can present and offer a contest in the air, and has got some skill when competing at ball-ups.
Francis Watson (186cm, 76kg, defender): An agile, mobile defender who loves to run with the ball tucked under his arm. He has a great natural leap and is an instinctive player who improved immensely this season and has plenty of upside. Watson played four games for Western Australia at the national championships as an over-aged player.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-28/still-in-with-a-chance
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Fordham, Jackson, Keitel & Preuss from that lot. Tall quick mid, tall shut down defender who can read it in the air (would be happy just to find another Thursfield at this point -2008 pre-injury model of course.), tall athletic swingman & young 6 ' 9 ruck. Would swap Keitel for a nippy little crumber though - or Shane Nelson. Sam Grimley or Darcy Cameron still my preferred ruck options.
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Who cares. The recruiters don't appear to much.....Just pick anyone.
Welcome to the club guys :clapping
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we need a 9foot ruck man who can play like a small midfielder with steels rat traps for hands with cheese on them and horses hooves for feet for no particular reason cept I think it would be stuffing hilarious. :shh :cheers
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we need a 9foot ruck man who can play like a small midfielder with steels rat traps for hands with cheese on them and horses hooves for feet for no particular reason cept I think it would be stuffing hilarious. :shh :cheers
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:lol. X2
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we need a 9foot ruck man who can play like a small midfielder with steels rat traps for hands with cheese on them and horses hooves for feet for no particular reason cept I think it would be stuffing hilarious. :shh :cheers
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_xOfxY5n2U
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two picks eh. two of tyler kietel, darcy cameron and oleg markov who i had on a par with menadue, injury has hurt him a lot but imo he can play.
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We'll have three picks not including Arnot & Thomarse. Hackson on SEN reckoned everybody we regarded as draftable was taken in the draft so sounds like they don't rate any of the kids that missed out that highly.
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Duck if only, they like, traded up or traded for any pick, or something.
Too much playing with jacks foot and wooing armitage
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Make of Hackson's remarks what you will but to me it says we'll probably be going down the matured aged/ recycled hacks path again now. Hopefully that'll at least include the likes of Sam Grimley...more likely though, it'll include the likes of Ash Smith.
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we need a 9foot ruck man who can play like a small midfielder with steels rat traps for hands with cheese on them and horses hooves for feet for no particular reason cept I think it would be stuffing hilarious. :shh :cheers
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_xOfxY5n2U
haha love father ted, instead of a mouth it has four arses LOL
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Braydon Preuss for ruck backup.
Tyler Keitel as a KPP to see if he develops.
There are more KPP's besides Keitel also.
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Rookie and pre-season draft order announced: Who could your club target?
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
December 1, 2014
Richmond
Pre-season draft selections: 4
Rookie draft selections: 11, 29, 46, 61, 68, 72.
What they need: The Tigers addressed the need to deepen their midfield stocks at the NAB AFL Draft by recruiting Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond and small forward Daniel Butler, who has scope to play up the ground. They also threw in a tall key forward – Reece McKenzie – as a raw, developing option. Taylor Hunt is another key addition to the midfield after joining them as a delisted free agent last month.
With the likes of Anthony Miles, Matt Thomas and Ricky Petterd progressing to senior footy after starting at their second club as rookies, the Tigers could again aim for delisted AFL players looking for a second chance.
They won't pick in the pre-season draft and will instead focus on rookies - Matt Arnot will be one of them after being delisted from the senior list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-01/rookie-and-preseason-draft-order-announced
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we need a 9foot ruck man who can play like a small midfielder with steels rat traps for hands with cheese on them and horses hooves for feet for no particular reason cept I think it would be stuffing hilarious. :shh :cheers
:lol
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Didn't our all knowing list manager in Claw say we had 2 rookie picks? Do I trust him over the AFL site saying 4? I don't know what to believe
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Arnot and Thomas I'm assuming is the two the great one is getting at
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Is the draft at 10am tomorrow?
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I believe its at 11am EST
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Can anyone draft jakr long or just essendon
Do we know if other teams can draft arnot?
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Current debate about the merits of taking Shane Yarran over at Big Footy:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/shane-yarran-make-him-a-tiger-thats-what-the-rookie-list-is-for.1083094/
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So how many picks we have tomm?.
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I dunno, he did his time, if he is behaving himself he is very talented...
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So how many picks we have tomm?.
Recruiter Richard Taylor said we'll have 4 picks (including Arnot) in the rookie draft today.
* We had a list of players just underneath our draftable list and would've considered drafting these in the 4th/5th round of the National Draft if those from our primary list had been all taken. So we've done a power of work on some of these kids available in the rookie draft. We've got a short of list of 14-15 we're confident we'll go through in the rookie draft [today] and of course we'll be re-drafting Matty Arnot as well. We'll have 4 picks in the rookie draft.
http://richo.podbean.com/
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Without looking you'd think notekey backs are drafted late
Thannkey fforwards
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Preseason Draft has been run and gone,
WE passed at pick 4.
Carlton were the only club to use their PSD pick and picked up Jason Tutt.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker
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Rookie Draft
Round 1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B347QSSCMAArSFV.png:large)
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Jayden Short
An exceptional kick on either side of his body, Short's kicking ability has been likened to that of Hawthorn star Sam Mitchell. He averaged almost 22 possessions a game in the TAC Cup and finished the season as one of the competition's most efficient ball-winners. A broken jaw interrupted the start of his year and meant he missed selection for Vic Metro. But he had an impressive season nonetheless, displaying terrific speed and agility to go with his elite kick. He was played mainly off the wing this year, but can move forward or into the middle.
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jASON cASTAGNA TAKEN WITH OUR 2ND PICK - HARD RUNNING hb
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Round 2
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St Kilda
Ahmed Saad
St Kilda
20
Melbourne
Mitchell White
Dandenong Stingrays
21
GWS Giants
Passed
22
Brisbane Lions
Hugh Beasley
Oakleigh Chargers
23
Western Bulldogs
Jordan Kelly
Hawthorn
24
Carlton
Bradley Walsh
Peel Thunder
25
Gold Coast Suns
Adam Saad
Coburg
26
Collingwood
Brenden Abbott
Claremont
27
Adelaide
Keenan Ramsey
Port Adelaide
28
West Coast Eagles
Corey Adamson
No club
29
Richmond
Jason Castagna
Northern Knights
30
Essendon
Kurt Aylett
Essendon
31
Fremantle
Tanner Smith
Fremantle
32
Geelong Cats
Cameron Delaney
North Melbourne
33
North Melbourne
Will Fordham
Sandringham Dragons
34
Port Adelaide
Tom Logan
Port Adelaide
35
Sydney Swans
Nic Newman
Frankston
36
Hawthorn
Jermaine Miller-Lewis
South Fremantle
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Round 3
37
St Kilda
Brenton Payne
Western Jets
38
GWS Giants
Passed
39
Brisbane Lions
Matthew Hammelmann
Morningside
40
Western Bulldogs
Daniel Pearce
Western Bulldogs
41
Carlton
Tom Fields
South Adelaide
42
Gold Coast Suns
Keegan Brooksby
South Adelaide
43
Collingwood
Tony Armstrong
Collingwood
44
Adelaide
Anthony Wilson
Norwood
45
West Coast Eagles
Paddy Brophy
International (Ireland)
46
Richmond
Kane Lambert
Williamstown
47
Essendon
Jake Long
St MarysFS
48
Fremantle
Sean Hurley
International (Ireland)
49
Geelong Cats
Padraig Lucey
International (Ireland)
50
North Melbourne
Awaiting selection
51
Port Adelaide
Awaiting selection
52
Sydney Swans
Lewis Melican
Geelong Falcons
53
Hawthorn
Lachlan Langford
Melbourne Grammar School
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Any more??
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Round 4
54
St Kilda
Adam Schneider
St Kilda
55
GWS Giants
Passed
56
Brisbane Lions
Cian Hanley
International (Ireland)
57
Western Bulldogs
Brett Goodes
Western Bulldogs
58
Carlton
Fraser Russell
Geelong Falcons
59
Gold Coast Suns
Tyrone Downie
Bendigo Gold
60 - Coll - Mason Cox (USA)
61 - Rich - Matthew Arnott (Richmond)
62 - Ess - Connor McKenna (Ireland)
63 - NM - Robin Nahas (NM)
64 - Syd - Pass
65 - Haw - Sam Grimley (Haw)
Round 5
66 - GWS - Pass
67 - GC - Greg Broughton (GC)
68 - Rich - Ivan Saldo (International)
69 - Sydney - Pass
Round 6
70 - GWS - Pass
71 - Gold Coast - Andrew Raines (Brisbane)
Round 7
72 - GWS - Pass
73 - Gold Coast - Pass
Round 8
74 - GWS - Pass
75 - Brisbane Lions - Pass
76 - Sydney - Jordan Foote (Academy)
And that is all folks!
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Any more??
All done.
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We didn't get tupac?
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
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Did the young Sudanese lad get picked up?
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Did the young Sudanese lad get picked up?
He's not eligible until the 2015 draft.
He will spend a week or so training with us. That's what the article from the other day was about
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Did the young Sudanese lad get picked up?
He's been on your club's list for four years already - try to keep up old man.
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Did the young Sudanese lad get picked up?
He's been on your club's list for four years already - try to keep up old man.
show some respect to your elders or ill have you horse whipped by Russian midget Mafia for youtube
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Did the young Sudanese lad get picked up?
He's been on your club's list for four years already - try to keep up old man.
show some respect to your elders or ill have you horse whipped by Russian midget Mafia for youtube
ooh promises, promises...
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its just a suggestion, not a promise, you could make some easy cash
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Cant say I am all that impressed with this years draft. Eeghwgrjb
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Cant say I am all that impressed with this years draft. Eeghwgrjb
Welcome back big boy! :clapping
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
Big Ivan is 204 cms tall.
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Cant say I am all that impressed with this years draft. Eeghwgrjb
Welcome back big boy! :clapping
Haven't been gone long. It's nice to be here though, beats the pants of Big Footy anyday of the week.
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
Big Ivan is 204 cms tall.
Staggers me that we havent chosen one tall defender
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
Big Ivan is 204 cms tall.
Staggers me that we havent chosen one tall defender
We don't need tall defenders when there is a dearth of 200 cms plus kpf getting around.
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
Big Ivan is 204 cms tall.
Category B rookie who's not going to be ready for a few years, if ever. Wouldn't be counting on him to be ruck depth just yet.
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Chaplin and hampson will play till 40
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So obviously club thinks we're right for ruck depth and tall defenders. Oh well, at least they took 2 kids & a young-ish state leaguer and no recycled hacks for a change, which I thought they would after Hackson said everyone they considered draftable had been taken.
Big Ivan is 204 cms tall.
Staggers me that we havent chosen one tall defender
We don't need tall defenders when there is a dearth of 200 cms plus kpf getting around.
Yeah your right I forgot about the rotational system in the backline for them to brush up on their defensive side
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:laugh:
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BTW - looks like we all missed the significance of this pick and it's ramifications for us:
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Gold Coast Suns
Tyrone Downie
Bendigo Gold
Was set to be a Richmond VFL-listed player & development coach next year.