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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 27, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
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Welcome to Tigerland, Nathan
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Pick 52. Nathan Drummond (Richmond)
Player bio
Former club: Murray Bushrangers
Age: 19
Height: 181cm
Weight: 85kg
Position: Midfielder
2014 Statistics
Games: 2
Goals: 2
Avg Kicks: 8.5
Avg Marks: 3.5
Avg Hballs: 6
Medium midfielder with good speed and elite endurance. Played well as a 19-year-old in two matches in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averageing 15 disposals in two appearances. Played 12 games for Murray Bushrangers at TAC Cup level, averaging 26 touches and kicking 11 goals. A standout at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, finishing first in the clean hands test (26/30) and second in both the repeat sprint (23.95 sec) and beep test (level 15.9). Was equal-second in the kicking test (27/30), goalkicking test (25/30) and standing vertical jump (76cm), fifth in both the running vertical jump (90cm) and 3km time trial (9:59) and equal-sixth in the 20m sprint (2.93 sec).
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=697227
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Don't 19 year old playing under 18s
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Don't 19 year old playing under 18s
Also played VFL for us, was in top 10 all tests at combine except 1
Goes ok
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an average footballer who will struggle at the higher level. but good luck to the young man.
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Big Natedog :clapping
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Don't 19 year old playing under 18s
Also played VFL for us, was in top 10 all tests at combine except 1
Goes ok
Smells like jayden post
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Welcome to the club Nathan.
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Welcome to the club Nathan.
Yeh.
Come in, do what you want and have a good time.
stuff it.
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Dud delist
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2014 Draft, pick 53: Nathan Drummond
richmondfc.com.au
November 27, 2014 8:05 PM
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-11-27/danny-yeung-8
Richmond has selected Murray Bushrangers midfielder Nathan Drummond with its third pick (selection 52) in the 2014 National Draft.
The 19-year-old completed an outstanding 2014 season, winning the Bushrangers’ Best and Fairest award.
He also played three senior VFL matches for Richmond in 2014, and was one of the best performers at the AFL Combine.
“Nathan missed out on being drafted in 2013 after an injury interrupted year, and returned as a 19-year-old this year,” said Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“His football improved dramatically, and he had a wonderful season culminating in him winning the best and fairest for the Bushrangers, as well as playing three games at VFL level with the Tigers.
“Nathan is an outstanding athlete who possesses elite speed and endurance.
“His work-rate in games is outstanding, and it resulted in him having some very high possession games.
“He can play inside or outside as a midfielder, and is a very strong tackler.”
(http://liveimages.quicksales.com.au/quicksales/general/classified/gc5077626410556637264.jpg?width=830&aspect=fitwithin&padcolor=ffffff)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-27/2014-draft-pick-53-nathan-drummond
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Looks like a young Vlastuin :shh
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Welcome to the gravy train, built on the broken dreams and disposable incomes of suckers like me
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Hard nut with pace. :clapping :clapping
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Can play
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some of these posts have me crying lol I got tears lol
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Just stumbled across his FB page (silly bloke commented a 'thanks' on the Richmond page) and looks like he is a Tigers supporter already.
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Nathan Drummond (Murray Bushrangers)
Born 19.1.1995, 181cm, 85kg
AFL biography: Tough, inside medium midfielder with elite speed/endurance combination. Has had excellent TAC Cup year after being injured in 2013. Playing as a 19-year-old he averaged 15 disposals, four marks and six tackles for Vic Country in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Good leap and overhead mark for his size.
Lee Fraser, Murray Bushrangers: "Nathan was at school in Melbourne last year so he's basically missed out on the draft and come back with an AFL attitude. He's super professional. We challenged him early on in the year to work on his contested footy and he's gone into the centre square and won a lot of it for us. His defensive attitude has been outstanding. He has a 15 beep and a sub three second 20 metre sprint and he's starting to use those qualities in his game."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-draft-combine-harvester-medium-midfielders-20141002-10pj9n.html
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Is it just me or does he move, kick and look a lot like Brandon Ellis????
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Is it just me or does he move, kick and look a lot like Brandon Ellis????
Its just you.. :thumbsup
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this cub can play. his attitude is brilliant and will play in 2015!
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Nathan Drummond's twitter account - @DrummondNathan
"So excited to join the @Richmond_FC and get down to the club! Thanks to the @MurrayBushiesFC for the last 4 years. #GoTiges 🐯"
https://twitter.com/drummondnathan
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I know nothing about juniors, but how does this kid test so well at the combine and end up at pick 52?
His highlights look pretty decent. Having all those attributes, i would of thought he would have higher possession numbers... Any way pretty excited to see him develop.
Interestingly, 3 of the top 10 quickest kids at the draft are now on our list.
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I know nothing about juniors, but how does this kid test so well at the combine and end up at pick 52?
Probably a glass half full type, we tend to collect them at RFC
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I know nothing about juniors, but how does this kid test so well at the combine and end up at pick 52?
His highlights look pretty decent. Having all those attributes, i would of thought he would have higher possession numbers... Any way pretty excited to see him develop.
Interestingly, 3 of the top 10 quickest kids at the draft are now on our list.
Same for Reece McKenzie.
I suppose being athletic isn't all there is to it. Need to have a football brain, otherwise you'll always be in the wrong place, despite being so athletic.
Consider Wayne Gretzky from America's NHL. He was physically small and quite slow by NHL standards, but with his intelligence became the highest point-scorer in history. And his effect on team culture led his team to become the highest point-scoring team his history. Take a quick look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gretzky#Strategy_and_effect_on_NHL_play).
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I know nothing about juniors, but how does this kid test so well at the combine and end up at pick 52?
His highlights look pretty decent. Having all those attributes, i would of thought he would have higher possession numbers... Any way pretty excited to see him develop.
Interestingly, 3 of the top 10 quickest kids at the draft are now on our list.
Same for Reece McKenzie.
I suppose being athletic isn't all there is to it. Need to have a football brain, otherwise you'll always be in the wrong place, despite being so athletic.
Consider Wayne Gretzky from America's NHL. He was physically small and quite slow by NHL standards, but with his intelligence became the highest point-scorer in history. And his effect on team culture led his team to become the highest point-scoring team his history. Take a quick look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gretzky#Strategy_and_effect_on_NHL_play).
Really good point, that footy nous is the x factor. Makes even more sense, as to his lack of possessions. This is probably where we fall down as a club. Not taking this pure athletic talent and not making them better AFL players.
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I know nothing about juniors, but how does this kid test so well at the combine and end up at pick 52?
His highlights look pretty decent. Having all those attributes, i would of thought he would have higher possession numbers... Any way pretty excited to see him develop.
Interestingly, 3 of the top 10 quickest kids at the draft are now on our list.
Could it be because he is a touch older at 19? His combine results were nothing short of amazing. His name appears near the top in just about every category.
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his low possesion count in the champs my have something to do with it, although averaging 26 touches at TAC level isnt too shabby.
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Nathan Drummond has exactly what it takes to succeed at the game’s highest level, according to his coach at TAC Cup team the Murray Bushrangers, Darren Ogier.
“His testing at the combine was top 10 in every single area except one, including finishing second in a couple of them and a 15.9 in the beep test.
“He averaged 15 possessions in the TAC Cup and won clearances as a midfielder, as well as having an impact up forward.
“Nathan can play inside and outside without a worry, after being more of an outside type earlier in his career because of his running capacity.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-12-12/junior-coach-beats-drum-for-drummond
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Can play
you not worried about his disposal tm.
hard to tell with an over ager his stats look good but for a bloke 12months older than most others id say they are average. its his kicking that concerns me. again i welcome him but im not sure about him.
im filthy jackson nelson went the pick before drummond to wce. in fact wce took lamb as well at 32 who i liked more than most.
have you seen much of oleg markov . would have gladly taken him with one of our later nd picks and most definately with a rookie pick.
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Off with his head
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Can play
you not worried about his disposal tm.
hard to tell with an over ager his stats look good but for a bloke 12months older than most others id say they are average. its his kicking that concerns me. again i welcome him but im not sure about him.
im filthy jackson nelson went the pick before drummond to wce. in fact wce took lamb as well at 32 who i liked more than most.
have you seen much of oleg markov . would have gladly taken him with one of our later nd picks and most definately with a rookie pick.
how the hell do you come to that conclusion? :huh3
do you have a different definition of "most" than the rest of us or something?
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Can play
you not worried about his disposal tm.
hard to tell with an over ager his stats look good but for a bloke 12months older than most others id say they are average. its his kicking that concerns me. again i welcome him but im not sure about him.
im filthy jackson nelson went the pick before drummond to wce. in fact wce took lamb as well at 32 who i liked more than most.
have you seen much of oleg markov . would have gladly taken him with one of our later nd picks and most definately with a rookie pick.
how the hell do you come to that conclusion? :huh3
do you have a different definition of "most" than the rest of us or something?
Well because most of the draftees were born in 1996 and he was born January of 1995 that would make him at least 12 months older than most. Corey Ellis was born in October 1996 making him ~21 months younger than Drummond
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is he 19 days or 12 months and 19 days past the cut off date?
isnt there an age limit for the over age players?
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He's worked his backside off after being knocked back not being drafted and worked on his weakness in his game this season and from all reports did that and was very impressive for our Vfl team to.
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Can play
you not worried about his disposal tm.
hard to tell with an over ager his stats look good but for a bloke 12months older than most others id say they are average. its his kicking that concerns me. again i welcome him but im not sure about him.
im filthy jackson nelson went the pick before drummond to wce. in fact wce took lamb as well at 32 who i liked more than most.
have you seen much of oleg markov . would have gladly taken him with one of our later nd picks and most definately with a rookie pick.
Not worried yet claw, but I guess time will tell. Like lambert, this kid seems to have a burning desire to better himself, which I rate highly in individuals. Has great speed and endurance and is a bit of a unit already, reminds me of Vlastuin the way he holds himself(not so much on the footy field).
haven't seen much of Markov, seems to be a long shot type, could be anything or nothing. Injury interrupted year didn't help his cause, with a solid year next year he'll likely be on the radar. Good skillset that's for sure
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Can play
you not worried about his disposal tm.
hard to tell with an over ager his stats look good but for a bloke 12months older than most others id say they are average. its his kicking that concerns me. again i welcome him but im not sure about him.
im filthy jackson nelson went the pick before drummond to wce. in fact wce took lamb as well at 32 who i liked more than most.
have you seen much of oleg markov . would have gladly taken him with one of our later nd picks and most definately with a rookie pick.
how the hell do you come to that conclusion? :huh3
do you have a different definition of "most" than the rest of us or something?
lol.
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Gamble pays off for Drummond
richmondfc.com.au
January 8, 2015
“It was a big relief for me. It’s all been worth it this year,” Drummond said.
“Taking another year in the TAC Cup, coming home and putting your life on hold and not going to uni for a year, has probably made it all worth it for me.
“But I haven’t really made it yet. I’ve just started my career. Hopefully it’s a long one.
Drummond settled into life as a Richmond player by sharing accommodation with defender Dylan Grimes, who was one of the first senior players he met in the days following the Draft.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-01-08/gamble-pays-off-for-drummond
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Plays and moves like a Matt White
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VIDEO: Drummond's draft path ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-01-16/drummonds-draft-path
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Nathan turns 20 today :birthday.
VIDEO: Drummond's draft path ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-01-16/drummonds-draft-path
* I’ve always strived to make it at the highest level. I missed out on the draft in my 18 year and that drove me to get here this year. It’s been a goal of mine since I was a really young age. Seeing a lot of my mates get drafted when I missed out was a real motivation for me to get picked up. It was my second time, so I came in more prepared and had a feel on how to prepare for if I didn’t get picked up.
* I’ve been getting some tips off Dylan Grimes. He’s really professional and organised. He’s been really good for me.
* I think I can play multiple positions on the ground and I’m someone who’ll work hard both ways. I pride myself on being a strong tackler as well. I haven’t looked too much past just training. I want to train hard, put my hand up for a NAB Cup game and see how I go after that.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-01-19/drummonds-determination-pays-off
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Heard he [Drummond] broke the record for the fastest 20m sprint ever recorded at Richmond.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-pick-52-nathan-drummond.1082748/page-5#post-36987319
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^^^ so that makes him 100th fastest in the AFL... ;D
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AFL is not the Olympics. Quick is important no doubt but hopefully his disposal compliments it.
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He's best 22
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AFL is not the Olympics. Quick is important no doubt but hopefully his disposal compliments it.
Its the year of fast footy remeber so disposal doesnt matter.. :whistle..word is 2016 will be the year of great disposal but we wont get that memo yet.. ::)
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It's the AFL buzz word of the year....get on board
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Drummond’s sound preparation
richmondfc.com.au
February 16, 2015 4:59 PM
Talented, young Richmond recruit Nathan Drummond is aiming to use the AFL’s upcoming pre-season competition as a launching pad for his first season at the game’s highest level.
“At the moment I’m training as a back-flanker – a running half-back, like a Bachar Houli type position,” he said.
“I haven’t played there for probably two years, but it’s a role that I like and am pretty comfortable in.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-02-16/drummonds-sound-preparation
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Goes alright this kid :shh expect to see him nab 1 :clapping
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Goes alright this kid :shh expect to see him nab 1 :clapping
Gee that's a big call BJ....NOT :P
Seeing they've already said in round 1 of the NAB challenge they are planning on playing basically a U-23 squad. Would expect most of the kids to get a run
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Goes alright this kid :shh expect to see him nab 1 :clapping
Ban this clown :P
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Goes alright this kid :shh expect to see him nab 1 :clapping
Any chance for the real round 1?
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Goes alright this kid :shh expect to see him nab 1 :clapping
Any chance for the real round 1?
Depends on performances leading up to it….
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Apparently kicking is iffy
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Apparently kicking is iffy
Disposal efficiency is certainly not a strength of his. IIRC he played a TAC game last year where he posted 20ish kicks, only 2 of which were effective.
Seems odd to me that we'd play him at that end. I'd want him forward of centre as an attacking mid.
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Apparently kicking is iffy
U got the wrong player, he has surgeon like precision off either peg :shh
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Apparently kicking is iffy
U got the wrong player, he has surgeon like precision off either peg :shh
Can hit the prick of a blowfly with a kick from 60 metres
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Apparently kicking is iffy
Disposal efficiency is certainly not a strength of his. IIRC he played a TAC game last year where he posted 20ish kicks, only 2 of which were effective.
Seems odd to me that we'd play him at that end. I'd want him forward of centre as an attacking mid.
we need bloody quick hard running tackling defensive fwds especially if we structure up with the three talls vickery,riewoldt, and griffiths. play him on a fwd flank.
the other one id like to see get a game fwd is butler who is a similar type super quick runs hard tackles and has a defensive set to his game with an added bonus he can kick goals, one of his coaches described him as having a canny knack for goals when fwd. both have good tanks and could rotate thru the midfield.
atm we have vlastuin, houli, morris, newman, dea, batchelor, ellis,castagna, possibly menadue, mcintosh, deledio, conca, petterd, hunt who could and have played h/b plus we are trying lennon mcdonough and now drummond across h/b. thats all up 16 players for back flanks. granted 5 or 6 are no good that still leaves 9 players for 6 positions if we include the back flankers we need in the twos.. i dont get it we have severe needs elswhere and those needs are being ignored.
if i had to pidgeon hole players this is how i think we should break down our list regarding the roles they play and how we should develop them atm.
tall defenders - astbury, rance, grimes, chaplin, elton,
sml/med defenders - batchelor, castagna, dea, houli, morris, mcintosh, newman.
def/mid - menadue, vlastuin.
mids/onballers - arnot, conca, cotchin, ellis, foley, grigg, hunt, lambert, miles, short, c ellis, thomas.
fwd/mids - butler, deledio, drummond, edwards, knights, martin.
tall/fwds - riewoldt, mckenzie.
sml/med fwds - mcdonough, lloyd, lennon, petterd gordon.
ruck/fwds - vickery,griffiths, mcbean.
rucks - hampson, maric, soldo.
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Won't make it....
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Won't make it....
What do you base this on?
Apparently kicking is iffy
Disposal efficiency is certainly not a strength of his. IIRC he played a TAC game last year where he posted 20ish kicks, only 2 of which were effective.
Seems odd to me that we'd play him at that end. I'd want him forward of centre as an attacking mid.
we need bloody quick hard running tackling defensive fwds especially if we structure up with the three talls vickery,riewoldt, and griffiths. play him on a fwd flank.
the other one id like to see get a game fwd is butler who is a similar type super quick runs hard tackles and has a defensive set to his game with an added bonus he can kick goals, one of his coaches described him as having a canny knack for goals when fwd. both have good tanks and could rotate thru the midfield.
atm we have vlastuin, houli, morris, newman, dea, batchelor, ellis,castagna, possibly menadue, mcintosh, deledio, conca, petterd, hunt who could and have played h/b plus we are trying lennon mcdonough and now drummond across h/b. thats all up 16 players for back flanks. granted 5 or 6 are no good that still leaves 9 players for 6 positions if we include the back flankers we need in the twos.. i dont get it we have severe needs elswhere and those needs are being ignored.
if i had to pidgeon hole players this is how i think we should break down our list regarding the roles they play and how we should develop them atm.
tall defenders - astbury, rance, grimes, chaplin, elton,
sml/med defenders - batchelor, castagna, dea, houli, morris, mcintosh, newman.
def/mid - menadue, vlastuin.
mids/onballers - arnot, conca, cotchin, ellis, foley, grigg, hunt, lambert, miles, short, c ellis, thomas.
fwd/mids - butler, deledio, drummond, edwards, knights, martin.
tall/fwds - riewoldt, mckenzie.
sml/med fwds - mcdonough, lloyd, lennon, petterd gordon.
ruck/fwds - vickery,griffiths, mcbean.
rucks - hampson, maric, soldo.
Agree with most of this :thumbsup
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Won't make it....
thats a big and ballsy call on a player who only just got drafted.
seems he has all the physical attributes needed to play afl. so i take it your talking about smarts and skill set.would be interesting to hear why you think this way.
i have already voiced concerns about foot skills even though he tested well at the draft camp with them. just doesnt seem to consistently hit a target.
in fact im not too sure how much we should read into his camp results with him being older. but he did test well probably as he should have so wont hold that against him.
the other concern is it seems against the better players he has struggled to get his hands on the ball. how they perform against their peers is a box that should be ticked.
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Won't make it....
thats a big and ballsy call on a player who only just got drafted.
seems he has all the physical attributes needed to play afl. so i take it your talking about smarts and skill set.would be interesting to hear why you think this way.
i have already voiced concerns about foot skills even though he tested well at the draft camp with them. just doesnt seem to consistently hit a target.
in fact im not too sure how much we should read into his camp results with him being older. but he did test well probably as he should have so wont hold that against him.
the other concern is it seems against the better players he has struggled to get his hands on the ball. how they perform against their peers is a box that should be ticked.
Has the physical attributes but no real stand out footballing attributes IMO. Apart from footage, saw him live last year when he played for the reserves and didn't really impress me all that much.
Put it this way - as a general rule the likelihood of all 5 of our national draft picks from across 5 rounds of the national draft making it is slim - and to me he is by far the least likely at this stage - even put him behind Butler who probably has worse skills but real pace, is a ferocious tackler and can kick goals.
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Won't make it....
thats a big and ballsy call on a player who only just got drafted.
seems he has all the physical attributes needed to play afl. so i take it your talking about smarts and skill set.would be interesting to hear why you think this way.
i have already voiced concerns about foot skills even though he tested well at the draft camp with them. just doesnt seem to consistently hit a target.
in fact im not too sure how much we should read into his camp results with him being older. but he did test well probably as he should have so wont hold that against him.
the other concern is it seems against the better players he has struggled to get his hands on the ball. how they perform against their peers is a box that should be ticked.
Has the physical attributes but no real stand out footballing attributes IMO. Apart from footage, saw him live last year when he played for the reserves and didn't really impress me all that much.
Put it this way - as a general rule the likelihood of all 5 of our national draft picks from across 5 rounds of the national draft making it is slim - and to me he is by far the least likely at this stage - even put him behind Butler who probably has worse skills but real pace, is a ferocious tackler and can kick goals.
Drummond is faster than Butler and just as manic defensively. Also has better skills, but that doesn't make them great - Butler's are pretty poor at this stage. Drummond has also shown more ability through the midfield and around stoppages.
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Won't make it....
thats a big and ballsy call on a player who only just got drafted.
seems he has all the physical attributes needed to play afl. so i take it your talking about smarts and skill set.would be interesting to hear why you think this way.
i have already voiced concerns about foot skills even though he tested well at the draft camp with them. just doesnt seem to consistently hit a target.
in fact im not too sure how much we should read into his camp results with him being older. but he did test well probably as he should have so wont hold that against him.
the other concern is it seems against the better players he has struggled to get his hands on the ball. how they perform against their peers is a box that should be ticked.
Has the physical attributes but no real stand out footballing attributes IMO. Apart from footage, saw him live last year when he played for the reserves and didn't really impress me all that much.
Put it this way - as a general rule the likelihood of all 5 of our national draft picks from across 5 rounds of the national draft making it is slim - and to me he is by far the least likely at this stage - even put him behind Butler who probably has worse skills but real pace, is a ferocious tackler and can kick goals.
Drummond is faster than Butler and just as manic defensively. Also has better skills, but that doesn't make them great - Butler's are pretty poor at this stage. Drummond has also shown more ability through the midfield and around stoppages.
ive only seen footage of butler. footskills aside and i have to admit i havent seen anything to really concern me with them how does he rate against blokes like lloyd macdonough as far as playing a sml fwd role goes.
the thing i like is the pace and the defensive attributes he can bring to that role and has shown he can kick a goal. with 200cm fwds and jack who is not quick theres a big need for genuine pace in the fwd half. i dont think either macdonough or lloyd suit the structure with their attributes. drummond would also suit the structure because of his attributes.
gordon is another good size good pace but at 25yrs im not so sure about his ceiling he doesnt find much balland seems to go missing for large chunks of games like many of our players do.
look at the hawks they play roughead, hale, gunston and rotate ceglar thru there. shoenmakers also played thru there with sphanger. what they always have is puopolo, bruest, and rioli they are all quick, they all can kick a goal and they all chase tackle and defend well. with the tall fwd set up the hawks need these types.
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Agree that pace and defensive pressure was lacking up forward for us last year. Opposition defenders were allowed to rebound too easily.
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Won't make it....
thats a big and ballsy call on a player who only just got drafted.
seems he has all the physical attributes needed to play afl. so i take it your talking about smarts and skill set.would be interesting to hear why you think this way.
i have already voiced concerns about foot skills even though he tested well at the draft camp with them. just doesnt seem to consistently hit a target.
in fact im not too sure how much we should read into his camp results with him being older. but he did test well probably as he should have so wont hold that against him.
the other concern is it seems against the better players he has struggled to get his hands on the ball. how they perform against their peers is a box that should be ticked.
Has the physical attributes but no real stand out footballing attributes IMO. Apart from footage, saw him live last year when he played for the reserves and didn't really impress me all that much.
Put it this way - as a general rule the likelihood of all 5 of our national draft picks from across 5 rounds of the national draft making it is slim - and to me he is by far the least likely at this stage - even put him behind Butler who probably has worse skills but real pace, is a ferocious tackler and can kick goals.
Drummond is faster than Butler and just as manic defensively. Also has better skills, but that doesn't make them great - Butler's are pretty poor at this stage. Drummond has also shown more ability through the midfield and around stoppages.
ive only seen footage of butler. footskills aside and i have to admit i havent seen anything to really concern me with them how does he rate against blokes like lloyd macdonough as far as playing a sml fwd role goes.
the thing i like is the pace and the defensive attributes he can bring to that role and has shown he can kick a goal. with 200cm fwds and jack who is not quick theres a big need for genuine pace in the fwd half. i dont think either macdonough or lloyd suit the structure with their attributes. drummond would also suit the structure because of his attributes.
gordon is another good size good pace but at 25yrs im not so sure about his ceiling he doesnt find much balland seems to go missing for large chunks of games like many of our players do.
look at the hawks they play roughead, hale, gunston and rotate ceglar thru there. shoenmakers also played thru there with sphanger. what they always have is puopolo, bruest, and rioli they are all quick, they all can kick a goal and they all chase tackle and defend well. with the tall fwd set up the hawks need these types.
I think Butler could be a great defensive forward in the King mould. He laid something like 20 tackles in a match last year, he's crazy good in that sense. His foot skills can let him down though from what I've seen, he's pretty good around goal but prone to the odd floater. I'd liken his kicking to someone like Robbie Nahas. He's certainly got attributes that neither Lloyd or McDonough have, in that he's a speedy little terrier. Ultimately I'd like to see him in a forward pocket with McDonough further up the ground. If the latter builds his tank some more I can definitely see him being a bonafide mid, he's great around stoppages and can set up play with that laser boot of his. Butler I'd prefer to keep in the forward line due to his average skills. Lloyd I'm not sure on yet. Not a defensive bone in his body and if we're playing three talls we'll need to squeeze as much defence out of our small/meds as possible.
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Agree that pace and defensive pressure was lacking up forward for us last year. Opposition defenders were allowed to rebound too easily.
not so much the pace part, but lack of defensive pressure is probably why morris has been training as a forward
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Agree that pace and defensive pressure was lacking up forward for us last year. Opposition defenders were allowed to rebound too easily.
not so much the pace part, but lack of defensive pressure is probably why morris has been training as a forward
In my eyes, defensive pressure comes from a combination of pace and mindset. Morris is both quick and manic, so i think he will be good in this regard. I'm not sure how much he will offer offensively, though did kick a ripping running goal v. Hawthorn a couple of years back.
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sheesh very disappointed in the game from drummond, looked totally out of his depth.
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Dud delist
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Dud delist
Wait until he gets to his hundred games - I hear his adopted son Arnold is a nuggety in and under Afro American who maybe on the short side but can play
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Dud delist
Wait until he gets to his hundred games - I hear his adopted son Arnold is a nuggety in and under Afro American who maybe on the short side but can play
What you talking about HRT?
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Dud delist
Wait until he gets to his hundred games - I hear his adopted son Arnold is a nuggety in and under Afro American who maybe on the short side but can play
What you talking about HRT?
;D
That should be "wotjewtalkinbout"
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:lol :rollin
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so how did people rate his first outing.people are quite on him. are people shying away from commenting because he had a bad game.
me i was disappointed. i thought being big bodied and a 20yr old plus his pace and supposed defensive ability he would be some sort of chance to get a game. possibly as a fwd or even defensive fwd.
cant see it in the near future though atm he looked miles away from the level.
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Thought he struggled with the pace of the game; a lot like Menadue did
But that's to be expected with some kids. Some blokes pick up the tempo quickly, others take a few hit outs
That's what I liked about Castagna & Short, they both seemed to pick up the speed of the game very quickly. Perhaps helped by the fact they are both rookies and were on hiding to nothing in a way
Butler too picked up the tempo quickly
Unfortunately Drummond & Menadue didn't
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I'd like to see him given a few more chances before I say he was a wasted pick......
The guy looked nervous as. If he gets his head right he may surprise.
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I was hoping he would take a hanger whilst using Minsons boof head as a launch pad and whilst in the air coming down could kick a soccor bicycle kick goal
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I'd like to see him given a few more chances before I say he was a wasted pick......
The guy looked nervous as. If he gets his head right he may surprise.
I'm not saying he is wasted pick. Far too early to make that call on him or any of he newbies
Agree he did look nervous. Ditto Menadue
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Hard to critique a juniors first outing, I havent bothered, rather put the likes of Gordon, mcdonagh et al under the blow torch , they need to fire
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Hard to critique a juniors first outing, I havent bothered, rather put the likes of Gordon, mcdonagh et al under the blow torch , they need to fire
Good call.
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I'd like to see him given a few more chances before I say he was a wasted pick......
The guy looked nervous as. If he gets his head right he may surprise.
I'm not saying he is wasted pick. Far too early to make that call on him or any of he newbies
Agree he did look nervous. Ditto Menadue
Just preempting the OER reaction WP........ :rollin
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so how did people rate his first outing.people are quite on him. are people shying away from commenting because he had a bad game.
me i was disappointed. i thought being big bodied and a 20yr old plus his pace and supposed defensive ability he would be some sort of chance to get a game. possibly as a fwd or even defensive fwd.
cant see it in the near future though atm he looked miles away from the level.
poor game, but first hitout so not going to label him based on it. Would like to see him have a few more hitouts. Hardly think people are shying away from commenting bc it was a poor performances
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I'd like to see him given a few more chances before I say he was a wasted pick......
The guy looked nervous as. If he gets his head right he may surprise.
I'm not saying he is wasted pick. Far too early to make that call on him or any of he newbies
Agree he did look nervous. Ditto Menadue
Just preempting the OvER reaction WP........ :rollin
EFA
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Best of luck to the Drummo tomorrow night :thumbsup.
Drummond to debut
richmondfc.com.au
April 23, 2015 6:25 PM
Richmond’s third pick (No. 52 overall) in the 2014 National Draft, Nathan Drummond, will make his AFL debut with the Tigers in Friday night’s big Anzac Day eve match against Melbourne at the MCG.
Drummond, 20, won the best and fairest at TAC Cup team the Murray Bushrangers last year and also played three VFL games for Richmond in 2014.
He was a standout performer at the AFL’s Draft Combine at the end of last year, ranking top five in the 3km time trial, beep test, clean hands, repeat spring tests, kicking and goalkicking categories.
“’Drummo’ comes off some good form in the VFL,” said Richmond assistant coach Brendon Lade.
“He could play half-back, half-forward, and a bit of on-ball for us.
“We’re excited about what he can do. He’s lightning quick, can run all day and normally uses the ball pretty well.
“We look forward to his run on Friday night.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-23/round-4-team-drummond-to-debut
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Has done nothing to earn a callup
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Track watchers have been racving about this kid , can't wait to see the next fj black book special :clapping
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Track watchers have been racving about this kid , can't wait to see the next fj black book special :clapping
Racv-ing? Is the word he's gonna break down ?
Why would we even name an unfit player :huh
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Has done nothing to earn a callup
See him play at all ?, silly question obviously not ,if you had you would not HAVE made that comment
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don't feed him taz
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don't feed him taz
ok, my bad, irritating isn't it
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don't feed him taz
ok, my bad, irritating isn't it
He's actually a Melbourne suporter who's been trolling this forum now for way to long.....
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Good luck Nathan!
Is his nickname Ray?
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Has done nothing to earn a callup
See him play at all ?, silly question obviously not ,if you had you would not HAVE made that comment
Lennon has been far better than him. A lot actually are ahead of him at the moment. I'd have him about 3rd or 4th in line for who should be called up from the 2's
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what l like to see blood & breed some new Tigers
:gotigers
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Agree TM. :thumbsup
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This kid can play
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thats a concern
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He looked pretty good in the VFL practice game against the dogs. Still thought Lennon would get the nod. Maybe he's injured.
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Poor kid :(
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-04-24/round-4-drummond-injury
Drummond's nightmare knee injury on debut
Ben Collins
afl.com.au
April 24, 2015 8:53 PM
RICHMOND debutant Nathan Drummond's initiation to AFL football has been soured by a suspected serious knee injury.
Late in the second quarter at the MCG on Friday night, Drummond courageously went back with the flight of the ball in a marking contest against oncoming Melbourne skipper Nathan Jones and landed awkwardly on his right leg.
It is feared he suffered a ruptured anterior cruciate ligament – a potential season-ending injury.
Play was halted for several minutes as the 20-year-old was stretchered from the field. To that stage the pacy Drummond had collected four kicks and a handball.
Drummond, who hails from Shepparton and represented the Murray Bushrangers in the TAC Cup under-18 competition, was the No. 52 pick in last year's NAB AFL Draft.
Damien Hardwick said after the game that it was heartbreaking to lose Drummond – who was comforted by his teammates in the rooms post-match – to what is likely to be a season-ending anterior cruciate ligament injury.
"We're not quite sure of the extent of it, but it doesn't look that great at the moment," the coach said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-24/drummonds-nightmare-debut
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Distressed last night watching the poor boy carried off.
Shocking thing to happen anytime let alone in your first game. :'(
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Good courage shown by the boy last night.
Unfortunate for anyone let alone a kid in his first game.
He is supposedly fast but I did see him get run down and out sprinted.
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From the bad news of some come good news to others.
Rookie elevation again: I vote Jayden Short.
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From the bad news of some come good news to others.
Rookie elevation again: I vote Jayden Short.
Yes indeed another young player has a chance to make a name for himself :snidegrin
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Deaset serious, have we had some curse put on us?
:huh
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Feel for the lad, on debut that's a killer. Loved the fact that he and ma dynamic tosh are the only 2 players that run straight through and try and break lines instead of the short stop and prop sideways specials
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Deaset serious, have we had some curse put on us?
:huh
It's me. :snidegrin
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What stuffen poo luck, hope the kid bounces back from this
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Will be like a new recruit...
Next year.
:cheers
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Confirmed as an acl.
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shattering for the kid
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Draga cogs knights mark IV
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Draga cogs knights mark IV
Was similar to Dragas which also happened pretty much in front of me. The poor stuffa
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Confirmed ACL for the poor kid :(.
Tiger fears confirmed: ACL tear for Drummond
Giulio Di Giorgio
afl.com.au
April 25, 2015 8:22 PM
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Drummond's worst fears have been confirmed, with scans on Saturday confirming the youngster has ruptured his anterior cruciate ligament.
The 20-year-old, who made his debut against Melbourne on Friday night, suffered the injury to his right knee after landing awkwardly in a marking contest just before half-time of his side's 32-point loss to the Demons.
Richmond football manager Dan Richardson confirmed the season-ending injury on Saturday night.
"Nathan has worked so hard to get his opportunity to play at AFL level, and it's extremely unfortunate that he will have to wait until next year to get another opportunity," Richardson told the club's website.
"He is a strong character, and we expect he will be diligent with his rehab program to give him the best chance of making a return."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-25/drummonds-nightmare-debut
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What a shame. Could tell immediately from the angle he fell on it/the way he grabbed it but was hoping otherwise.
Looked like he wanted to have a real crack too.
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Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane · 1 hour ago
"Richmond has placed Nathan Drummond on the long-term injury list with no replacement named from the rookie list at this time."
https://twitter.com/afl_pkeane
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Welcome back into the fold....Matt Thomas :clapping
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My man George... Another good game this weekend and surely it's Castagna!! :dancing :dancing
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You better believe it :shh
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My man George... Another good game this weekend and surely it's Castagna!! :dancing :dancing
And there we are in agreement bt. :clapping :clapping :clapping :thumbsup
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What does it feel like to do your knee in your debut game? Richmond's Nathan Drummond knows
Emma Quayle
The Age
June 4, 2015 - 7:01PM
Not many people have asked Nathan Drummond what he remembers of his very first AFL game. The answer seems so obvious. Not many debutants have been back in the rooms before the half-time break after all, being told by the club doctor that they have injured their knee so badly that they won't be able to play a second match for another season or more.
Drummond can still remember his knee twisting inwards, after he backed into a contest on the MCG wing. He can remember how much it hurt, and his leg dangling freely as the physios took their first look at it. He hasn't forgotten what the doctor told him – you've done your ACL – and how upset his parents were for him.
They had been there with him less than two hours earlier, watching him get handed his first Richmond jumper. "Your immediate thought is just, why did it have to be you?" said the 20-year-old. "It's upsetting, but it also doesn't feel real. Emotionally, it was very hard to take."
It still is, some days. It had to happen in his first game? What if he had jumped a second earlier, or later? Landed on the other foot? Somehow forced his body weight the other way? One of the first steps in recovering from a knee reconstruction is learning to stand up on your toes, and Drummond feels like he is starting everything all over again. But when he thinks of the night his dream came true neither the collision, the pain nor the diagnosis is the first thing that comes into his mind.
He thinks first of all of his long wait to even get there, one that gained urgency when he was overlooked in the 2013 draft, at the end of a challenging year. Drummond was finishing school at Melbourne Grammar, travelling to play for the Murray Bushrangers and found it difficult to move easily from team to team while also dealing with a few injuries. "I found it a bit hard to manage all of it," he said, "and that was before even starting to try and get the best out of my footy."
There were reasons that wasn't so bad. Drummond grew more independent living in the school's boarding house after taking up an Indigenous scholarship; while his great grandfather on his father's side once captained Collingwood, playing in two premierships, his great great grandfather on his mother's side showed what he calls "a different sort of leadership," making him feel disappointed not to be wearing Richmond's Indigenous guernsey in Saturday night's Dreamtime game.
William Cooper was an Aboriginal activist, one of the country's earliest. He wrote letters to the prime minister and king of England, protesting the treatment of his people. He travelled around seeking signatures for his petitions, and helped organise the first "Day of Mourning" in 1938, on the 150th anniversary of colonisation. In his 70s, Cooper led a march of people down Collins Street, angry at Nazi Germany's persecution of the Jewish people. There are trees planted in the Forest of the Martyrs near Jerusalem for him, and his story is told at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum. "He fought for people and he did it at a time when he wasn't even really considered human," Drummond said. "It's hard to imagine how brave he must have been. It's pretty special. Not many people would have done the things he did."
Drummond was sitting alone in his bedroom, watching the draft on his laptop, on the night he was passed over in 2013. Finished at school, he moved back home to Shepparton, got a part-time job at the Rebel Sport store a short walk down the road and trained and played full-time with the Bushrangers. On the back of his door he stuck a piece of paper with the number 18 written on it. "I had that there to look at every day, to represent all the clubs that didn't pick me," he said. "It was a reminder of what I wanted to do in my life and where I wanted to get to."
It was strong motivation. Drummond worked on his ground balls, on using his speed, on spending more time in the midfield. He was Richmond's third pick in last year's draft, and one of its best few runners by the end of his first pre-season, his disappointment not forgotten even by then. He was sitting at home when Damien Hardwick called to tell him he had made the side, feeling relieved and excited at the same time. It was hard to sleep that night – what was it going to be like? – and Drummond can remember everything that happened after that clearly.
He took housemate Dylan Grimes' dog for a walk to the park on the morning of the game, then went out for some breakfast. He was presented with his jumper in the rooms. He looked around the MCG during the team's first warm up – he had never been out on the ground before – and kicked the ball with Trent Cotchin in the rooms before they headed back up the race for real.
Drummond was nervous, his heart racing. He got four kicks before he was hurt, and was just starting to feel comfortable. He saw the ball move over his head and knew he had to jump up, back and at it. But five weeks later, knowing what happened and understanding everything that lies ahead of him, his lasting memory is of running through the banner and up towards the cheer squad, the theme song playing loudly and the supporters singing along with it.
It's what has stuck with him, and what he hopes won't go away. "I suppose that's when I thought, it's happened, I'm here. That was when the dream came true," he said. "It's just an unreal moment, it's what you've waited for and what you've done all that work for. It's one of the happiest days of my life and also the most miserable, but at least I know that I was in the team when it happened and that the coaches picked me. Those are the things I think of all the time and that's what's going to keep motivating me. I've made a start and I'll be able to keep going soon."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers/what-does-it-feel-like-to-do-your-knee-in-your-debut-game-richmonds-nathan-drummond-knows-20150604-ghb3iz.html
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Great read, great attitude
Emma Quayle = quality journo
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I would imagine it would physically hurt as much as if you weren't on debut
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I have just seen an Instagram post & photo from the RFC of Nathan Drummond running laps at Punt Road, recovery. Well done to him for putting the effort in, lets hope he makes it back! :clapping
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crap day for it
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crap day for it
What do you mean?
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dont go there wat. Thats one rabbit hole you dont want to go down.
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dont go there wat. Thats one rabbit hole you dont want to go down.
:lol
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crap day for it
What do you mean?
far too hot
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Injured players from your club who are set to return in 2016
Sarah Olle
FOX SPORTS
November 3, 2015
SOMETIMES what you’re looking for is right in front of you.
And in the haze that was the trade period, you’d be forgiven for forgetting that some of your team’s most exciting talent for 2016 isn’t that new at all.
So we’re going to give you a gentle reminder.
Here are the players whose 2015 seasons were wrecked by injury — and whose return in 2016 should get you as excited as a Geelong fan on the recruitment of Patrick Dangerfield.
They might not be “new” recruits, but they’ll certainly inject your team with something “new” next year.
RICHMOND
Nathan Drummond’s AFL debut was marred by the season-ending ACL injury he suffered in the Tiger’s Round 4 loss to Melbourne. Taken at No. 52 in the 2014 draft, Drummond will be back for the Tigers next year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2016-injured-players-from-your-club-who-are-set-to-return-in-2016/news-story/da50f26281310a1065babe086524d16a
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Injured players from your club who are set to return in 2016
Sarah Olle
FOX SPORTS
November 3, 2015
SOMETIMES what you’re looking for is right in front of you.
And in the haze that was the trade period, you’d be forgiven for forgetting that some of your team’s most exciting talent for 2016 isn’t that new at all.
So we’re going to give you a gentle reminder.
Here are the players whose 2015 seasons were wrecked by injury — and whose return in 2016 should get you as excited as a Geelong fan on the recruitment of Patrick Dangerfield.
They might not be “new” recruits, but they’ll certainly inject your team with something “new” next year.
RICHMOND
Nathan Drummond’s AFL debut was marred by the season-ending ACL injury he suffered in the Tiger’s Round 4 loss to Melbourne. Taken at No. 52 in the 2014 draft, Drummond will be back for the Tigers next year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2016-injured-players-from-your-club-who-are-set-to-return-in-2016/news-story/da50f26281310a1065babe086524d16a
Butler :shh
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Nathan Drummond has responded positively to an increase in workload in his on-going recovery from a ruptured anterior cruciate ligament.
The soon-to-be 21-year-old suffered the injury on his senior debut in round four last year, but has since laid strong foundations for a resumption of skills training.
“It’s going fantastically well,” said Burge.
“Pre-Christmas we were able to step his workload up a little bit, but he had a very specifically targeted program over the Christmas break and this week we’re starting to see him progress to another level with his change of direction, his confidence, and his ability to jump and land.
"We’re still going to be very mindful of the timeframe. He’s a young player, but he’s on track and without putting a timeframe on it, I’d anticipate he’d be doing some sort of skill work soon.”
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-01-12/lennon-returns-to-the-fold)
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Young Tiger Drummond visits America as part of knee rehab
AFL.com.au
January 15, 2016
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Drummond visited renowned knee rehabilitation specialist Bill Knowles in America as part of his recovery from the ACL injury he suffered on debut in round four last season.
The 20-year-old was accompanied on the trip by Richmond's rehabilitation and conditioning coach Luke Meehan as he makes solid progress towards a return to full training.
Drummond ran laps at Punt Road on Friday morning and the club's physical performance manager Peter Burge told the club's website early in the week they were rapt with his progress.
"It's going fantastically well," Burge said.
"He had a very, very specifically targeted program over the Christmas break and this week we are starting to see him progress to another level with, his change of direction, his confidence and his ability to jump and land."
Drummond missed 2015 after suffering the knee injury in the first half of his first game in round four against Melbourne.
Several young AFL players have visited Knowles after suffering knee injuries including Melbourne's Christian Petracca and Greater Western Sydney's Jonathon Patton.
The Tigers felt the benefits will help Drummond and also their ability to manage other injuries in the future.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/01/15/414945.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-15/young-tiger-drummond-visits-america-as-part-of-acl-rehab
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Transformers: Which players have changed their body shape over summer?
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
February 24, 2016
Richmond - Nathan Drummond
Despite being in rehab after he ruptured his ACL last April, Nathan Drummond made the biggest transformation at Richmond over the off-season. The second-year midfielder has trimmed down noticeably and achieved personal best body fat levels while still increasing his strength in the gym.
"Being in rehab is no excuse for letting body composition go and Nathan lives that philosophy," Tigers physical performance manager Peter Burge said. "Most of his improvement was due to his approach to diet."
Drummond added morning and afternoon cross training sessions to his program and continued his strength work and football touch sessions. He is still listed at 86kg this season, but his weight is better distributed.
"This approach has put Nathan in a position to make a seamless transition back into football and will hopefully reduce his chances of injury as well as improving performance, which was at a high standard already pre-injury."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-24/transformers-which-players-have-changed-their-body-shape-over-summer
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Good on him. Set an example to blokes like Yarran.
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Promising Richmond midfielder Nathan Drummond has signed a one-year contract extension with the Club.
The new deal will keep Drummond, who has been sidelined with a serious knee injury since early last season, at Punt Road until at least the end of 2017.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-15/drummond-signs-new-deal
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What the hell for? Tearing it up in rehab?
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Weird.
Can anyone on here vouch for this kid?
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I doubt he is a real person
Like claws 'mates'
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lmao
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It's mind boggling really. An utter waste of money.
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It's mind boggling really. An utter waste of money.
why, have you seen him play ?
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It's mind boggling really. An utter waste of money.
why, have you seen him play ?
I don't think anybody has and to add to that i don't think anybody's going to.
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It's mind boggling really. An utter waste of money.
why, have you seen him play ?
I don't think anybody has and to add to that i don't think anybody's going to.
I certainly have as he played 3 or 4 games with our VFL the year before being drafted & he will get an AFL game at least this year
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I'm assuming it's bc the club feel he's developing well and worth persevering with?
Or maybe they are just dumbarses and have done it willy nilly
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I'm assuming it's bc the club feel he's developing well and worth persevering with?
Or maybe they are just dumbarses and have done it willy nilly
Yep, that is what they do TM
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I'm assuming it's bc the club feel he's developing well and worth persevering with?
Or maybe they are just dumbarses and have done it willy nilly
The latter. Check box list management to get the salary cap up to minimums.
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Family connection makes Nathan Drummond's return mean more
Emma Quayle
The Age
27 May 2016
Nathan Drummond will play football for the first time in 13 months this weekend. He hasn't been able to do it since his knee crumpled in his very first game for Richmond last year, and that alone is enough to make him feel nervous, excited and optimistic about what will happen from here. "It could be any week, any round, any game," he said, "and I'd just be happy to be out there."
That it's happening this week makes it mean just a little bit more. There's some serendipity in the fact that it's the Indigenous Round, that Richmond's VFL team will play Essendon in their own version of the Dreamtime game and that the winning team will be given the Sir Doug Nicholls Trophy. Drummond found out just a few years ago that he is related to the footballer, athlete, boxer, social worker, pastor and Indigenous leader. "It's pretty special," he said. "It's a nice coincidence. It's good to be back, but it's especially good to be back out there this week."
The story goes like this.Drummond, who grew up in Shepparton, is the great-great-grandson of William Cooper, one of the country's earliest Aboriginal activists. Cooper wrote letters to the king of England and the prime minister, demanding better treatment for his people. He travelled the country seeking signatures for various petitions, campaigned for land rights and helped create Aborigine Sunday, which was first observed in churches and has since evolved into NAIDOC Week.
Moving from the Murray River to Footscray at the age of 73, Cooper even led a march down Collins Street protesting Nazi Germany's persecution of the Jewish people. Seventy trees were planted in his honour eight years ago – and five more the following year – in the Forest of the Martyrs near Jerusalem. His story has been captured in a memorial at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum.
Nicholls was a great-nephew of Cooper, and one of his proteges. The pair grew up on the Cumeroongunja mission, Sir Doug in many ways picking up where he left off. He helped initiate Aborigine Sunday, and replaced Cooper as secretary of the Australian Aborigines Leagues after he retired in 1940. One of the many important things he did, after playing football for Fitzroy, was help campaign against racist elements of the Australian Constitution, leading to the 1967 referendum.
Drummond knew little of this growing up, "just being a kid and living life," but has become more interested in recent years. Nicholls used to stay with his grandparents near Shepparton from time to time and his grandfather, Alf Turner, has started telling him more stories.
"My pop had a bit to do with him and from what he's said he sort of took over what William had been doing and really worked closely with him to fight for the rights of the Indigenous people," Drummond said.
"I spoke to Pop on the weekend about him, and he was saying what a great man he was, how on top of everything else he was a good athlete and a really good footballer. I guess as you get older you get more interested in your background and knowing where you've come from and I know my mum's been big on that, on finding out as much as she can and knowing the family history, all the stories and how everyone connects up. It's just good to know where you come from."
Drummond knows his Pop will be there on Saturday, watching him take the next step in a career that was held up for so long, at such a cruel time. . For a long time the 21-year-old felt like his rehab would take forever, but he was able to break the time down into small blocks, get through each one, take a short break and move on to the next. He has learnt more about the game, more about the game plan, more about his role in it and more about all the small things you have to do as a footballer: eat well, prepare well, recover even better. He has gotten to know his teammates better, he hasn't forgotten how good the rest of his debut game was, he knows exactly what he wants to get back to and in his last two months of training has gained more and more trust in his knee.
"I've been ready physically for a while now. But mentally it's been good to train, get used to that and get all the nerves out of the way," he said. "The club's been good, they've let me go at my own pace and made sure I'm ready for it, and I know that I am now. Once you're getting tackled and jumping and landing and getting up every time, it makes things a lot easier.
"You spend a lot of time imagining getting hit and what it would feel like, so every time it happens now I get more confident and think about my knee less and less. I know it's strong, and I don't really worry about it now. I just can't wait to be out there again."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmonds-nathan-drummond-to-make-comeback-in-vfl-20160524-gp2ysu.html
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why are Richmond and essendon playing for something named after a bloke who played for Carlton and Fitzroy?
I doubt Carlton would want to be involved though, their treatment of Doug would be something they probably dont want dredged up.
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Drummond must be part of the cream. :snidegrin
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Hard road worth it for young Tiger
It has been a tough slog for young midfielder Nathan Drummond to play his second AFL game after rupturing his anterior cruciate ligament on debut last season. The 21-year-old was on the MCG early, familiarising himself with the home of football with Daniel Rioli and Jason Castagna, and he got himself involved in the game early too. His first AFL goal came after 18 minutes, crumbing and snapping across his body, prompting every Tiger on the ground to run to him. Richmond has been bullish about his future and he showed glimpses on Sunday that suggest he is certainly on the right track, finishing with 10 possessions and five marks.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-24/five-talking-points-hawthorn-v-richmond
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I don't see it just yet.
Hope I'm wrong
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Yep...still rate him least likely from that year's crop....(even though it looks like Butler will go first...)
...should've taken Caleb Daniel with that pick......
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Was OK I thought for just his second game. Better than some of his more experienced teammates.....
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thought he played really well for the first 1 and a half quarters, then went missing
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x2 ^^
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Just needs confidence to start having a consistent impact. He's a fit bloke but the speed and endurance of an AFL game still shook him as he didn't get a full understanding due to his knee injury last year
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From memory he was having a cracking game for the limited time he was on the field last year.
Confidence and time.
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From the bad news of some come good news to others.
Rookie elevation again: I vote Jayden Short.
Bump good call ahead of time :clapping
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Nathan Drummond has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list due to ongoing management of a knee injury.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/chol-upgraded
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Trade him for O'Meara....like for like.... :clapping
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Nathan Drummond has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list due to ongoing management of a knee injury.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/chol-upgraded
Had sprained ankle last week
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Nathan Drummond has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list due to ongoing management of a knee injury.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/chol-upgraded
Had sprained ankle last week
Are you saying the club is telling porkies? :shh
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Nathan Drummond has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list due to ongoing management of a knee injury.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/chol-upgraded
Had sprained ankle last week
Are you saying the club is telling porkies? :shh
Well he did limp off the ground after the game with his right boot and sock in hand
His ankle was blown right up
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Being last game, was it the only way to get Chol a game? to rookie him?
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Injury woes behind Tigers mid after blitzing time trial
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
November 14, 2016 1:55 PM
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Drummond is ready to put his injury troubles behind him after winning the 3km time trial for the Tigers' 1-4 year players at the weekend.
Drummond edged out teammates Kane Lambert and Kamdyn McIntosh, as well as early returners Reece Conca and Brandon Ellis, to take the honours and set up his pre-season.
After missing more than 12 months of football with a serious knee injury, the 21-year-old appears poised for a breakout 2017 if he can enjoy a clean bill of health.
He played four senior games late in 2016, but his running performance to launch the summer program is a bright sign for the Tigers, who would see him moving into regular senior calculations.
Lambert, who trailed the versatile midfielder to the finish line, said the opening time trial was a positive start to a crucial pre-season for the Tigers.
"The boys ran well and I think 'Burgey' (physical performance manager Peter Burge) is pretty happy with the times," Lambert told richmondfc.com.au.
"I ran not a bad time, just off my 'PB'.
"'Drummo' ran really well and I tried to tack on to him as long as I could.
"This time of year we want to come back in great shape and set ourselves up for a big pre-season."
Lambert challenged the Tigers to bring a competitive edge to their pre-season after an eight-win 2016 that prompted a raft of off-field changes.
He said the club's new-look coaching panel, which now includes Justin Leppitsch, Blake Caracella and Xavier Clarke, was already having an impact.
"In just a week we've already learned a hell of a lot off them … it's been great to get to know them," he said.
"The young boys are really excited and have a lot of energy and the place is vibrant.
"We have to challenge each other in everything we do, whether it's tackling or one-on-one, or time trials.
"We have to challenge each other to get better and that competitive edge is what we need."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-14/injury-woes-behind-tigers-mid-after-blitzing-time-trial
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Keep running, son.
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Won't make it....
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Won't make it....
Why not, Batchelor and Edwards have....
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touché....
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Can he kick? Is he cool under pressure?
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Nein & Nyet....
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2016 is the year of slow arse tigers. At least some tigers are trying to catch up with the rest of the comp by improving their running. Interesting that Drummond edged out Brandon "all i can do is run and kick backwards" Ellis.
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Won't make it....
Tend to agree.
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Won't make it....
Why not, Batchelor and Edwards have....
Have they or is it just that the bar is set so low .Fmd i might try and find the bootslong lost in the linen closet and have a crack meself.
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Won't make it....
Tend to agree.
Yep, but more than happy to be wrong....
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As mentioned in the VFL game thread, Drummond has injured the other (left) knee to the one he did his ACL.
UPDATE: Nathan Drummond has sustained an injury to his left knee, scans are required to determine the extent of the injury.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/status/855658797058080770
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Doesn't look like the early prognosis is promising for the young lad. This from The Age....
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Richmond fear youngster Nathan Drummond has again torn his ACL
Daniel Cherny
The Age
22 April 2017
Richmond are bracing for bad news regarding Nathan Drummond with the Tigers suspecting the 22-year-old will need another knee reconstruction.
While the club won't confirm the news until Drummond has scans, it is feared the third-year utility faces another lengthy stint on the sidelines after he left the ground in tears, helped by trainers, in the first half of Richmond's VFL clash with Sandringham at Trevor Barker Beach Oval on Saturday.
He went straight into the club's rooms, where he was visited by senior teammates watching the game, as well as senior coach Damien Hardwick.
The knee is not the same one he hurt almost two years ago to the day in his first AFL game against Melbourne on Anzac Day eve 2015.
After more than a year out of the game, Drummond bounced back in 2016, returning via the VFL before playing four AFL games late in the season.
The Victorian was drafted by the Tigers with pick 52 in the 2014 draft, and is a relation to former Carlton and Fitzroy footballer and South Australian governor Sir Doug Nicholls, after whom the AFL's Indigenous round is named.
Drummond signed a one-year contract extension with the Tigers last year, meaning his current deal expires at the end of this season.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-fear-youngster-nathan-drummond-has-again-torn-his-acl-20170422-gvqaw4.html
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Luckless Tiger carried off with knee injury in VFL
Staff writers
afl.com.au
April 22, 2017 7:13 PM
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Drummond will have scans on his 'good' left knee amid concerns he may have suffered another ruptured ACL.
Drummond was carried from the field in the Tigers' VFL clash with Sandringham with a left knee injury.
He was reportedly visited in the rooms by Richmond coach Damien Hardwick and some senior-listed players in attendance.
It comes almost two years to the day after the 22-year-old suffered a ruptured ACL in his right knee in his senior debut, against Melbourne in the 2015 Anzac Day eve clash.
Drummond returned to senior ranks in round 18 last year, playing four consecutive games before finishing the season in the VFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-22/tiger-nathan-drummond-carried-off-with-knee-injury-in-vfl
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Some players are just injury prone. He oughta take up lawn bowls, poor bloke.
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Many players come back after 2 reco's. Bad news for kid but it wont affect the side unduly as we have a glut of half backs. We also have impressive rookies waiting in the wings.
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
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Sam McClure on Ch 7 just now mentioned it's an ACL.
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
cause he lives in Perth & has stated himself he rarely comes over & as the VFL rarely play in Perth I joined the dots
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
cause he lives in Perth & has stated himself he rarely comes over & as the VFL rarely play in Perth I joined the dots
Well if that's the case then absolutely fair enough. I thought Matt073 was our only resident Sandgroper.
Claw, pull your head in mate.
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
cause he lives in Perth & has stated himself he rarely comes over & as the VFL rarely play in Perth I joined the dots
Well if that's the case then absolutely fair enough. I thought Matt073 was our only resident Sandgroper.
Claw, pull your head in mate.
Just quietly Claw has been known to comment on the AFL sides game without actually watching it.
I would also guess at a high level of probability that he has only rarely seen him play
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
cause he lives in Perth & has stated himself he rarely comes over & as the VFL rarely play in Perth I joined the dots
Well if that's the case then absolutely fair enough. I thought Matt073 was our only resident Sandgroper.
Claw, pull your head in mate.
Just quietly Claw has been known to comment on the AFL sides game without actually watching it.
I would also guess at a high level of probability that he has only rarely seen him play
correct, has openly stated this season a couple of times he didnt watch a particular game and wasnt likely to bother yet passes judgement on certain players based on stats even though he hasnt actually seen them play
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At the risk of sounding harsh - kid was a prime candidate for delistment and I just hope we don't do what we usually do and retain him on the list in the wake of this latesy injury just for "goodwill" reasons...
100% AGREE. GOTTA FEEL FOR THE KID BUT FMD I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED BEFORE THIS NEW INJURY.Sorry caps on.
what a load of crap, you've never seen the bloke play FFS
How would you know that? You wouldn't.
cause he lives in Perth & has stated himself he rarely comes over & as the VFL rarely play in Perth I joined the dots
Well if that's the case then absolutely fair enough. I thought Matt073 was our only resident Sandgroper.
Claw, pull your head in mate.
Just quietly Claw has been known to comment on the AFL sides game without actually watching it.
I would also guess at a high level of probability that he has only rarely seen him play
correct, has openly stated this season a couple of times he didnt watch a particular game and wasnt likely to bother yet passes judgement on certain players based on stats even though he hasnt actually seen them play
This is a real problem.
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I've seen Drummond play plenty of times and he looks like a dud....good tackler but that's about it....list clogger...
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I've seen Drummond play plenty of times and he looks like a dud....good tackler but that's about it....list clogger...
Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion and can back it up based on personal observation.
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I've seen Drummond play plenty of times and he looks like a dud....good tackler but that's about it....list clogger...
As harsh as it is to say it now, I agree and just hope they don't make a list management decision based on emotion and pity rather than facts.
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I've seen Drummond play plenty of times and he looks like a dud....good tackler but that's about it....list clogger...
As harsh as it is to say it now, I agree and just hope they don't make a list management decision based on emotion and pity rather than facts.
I'd add it's always hard to judge a player until it's been at least 12 months of playing time after recovery from a big knee. So how do you judge the rate of development of the kid?
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I'd add it's always hard to judge a player until it's been at least 12 months of playing time after recovery from a big knee. So how do you judge the rate of development of the kid?
Watching the VFL last weel thought he certainly had improved his decision making, which is one of the things I've been critical of
And I'm not sure you turf a kid and label him "injury prone" when he's been on the list just 2 years (this is his 3rd) and of those he's miised 12 ,on the with a reco.
Thank goodness Dan Menzel or Alex McDonald aren't Richmond players they would have scrap heaped after their 1st recos.
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Menel at least is a good footballer - Drummond is not.
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Menel at least is a good footballer - Drummond is not.
The big difference.
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Lol at the butt hurt of emotionally invested supporters around here quite funny really.
Ive seen all 5 of his Afl and i reckon i saw just as much of his junior footy as any one else around here. . Thats probably more than most supporters.
I have also seen a couple of his Vfl games. again probably more than most supporters.
Yep small sample size but hey you can only comment on what you have seen and what ive seen says ordinary.
Let me put it this way
I have NEVER rated him and BASED ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN i think hes a dud.
Cannot understand the love as he has no outstanding footy ability and his only redeeming quality is his pace or whats probably left of it.
If you dont want comment from those who dont see much of reserve players then your not going to get much comment at all.
Anyway the sooking has made my day always good for a chuckle is the highly invested butt hurt brigade.
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I was just wondering if he can be delisted according to workplace laws with respect to injury? Anyone know the answer? Also is he contracted next year?
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Delisted and selected as a rookie could be the right move.
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As per the RFC website Drummond has ruptured his ACL and will undergo a full knee reco
See:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-04-24/knee-reconstruction-for-drummond
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Poor kid. Hopefully he comes good.
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Richmond has placed Nathan Drummond on the long-term injury list with no replacement from the rookie list at this time.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/865098366501347328
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Drummond, 22, had previously been ruled out for the season after rupturing the ACL in his left knee while playing for the Tigers’ VFL team last month.
It marked another major setback for Drummond, who ruptured the ACL in his other knee on senior debut with Richmond during the 2015 Anzac Day eve match against Melbourne.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-05-18/concas-injury-setback)
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When does his contract expire?
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When does his contract expire?
End of this season. So he's out of contract.
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When does his contract expire?
End of this season. So he's out of a job.
EFA
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Will get a one-year sympathy extension.... :shh
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Rookie offer IMHO....
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Forgotten Tigers mid targets round one return
afl.com.au
10 December 2017
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Drummond is closing in on the final stages of his rehabilitation from a second knee reconstruction and is shooting for an emotional return in round one.
Drummond is seven-and-a-half months into his recovery after rupturing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in the VFL in April, almost two years to the day after suffering the same injury in his right knee on debut.
The 22-year-old, who signed a new deal for 2018 shortly before taking a three-week break at the end of the season, said he had found motivation in watching his teammates win the 2017 premiership and was aiming to be part of a successful 2018.
"Things are going really well and it’s a lot better than the first one I did," Drummond told AFL.com.au this week.
"Hopefully around March I should start to play or do some match simulations, but we’ll know a bit more when I get closer to that time.
"At this stage my goal is to hopefully play round one, either in the VFL or AFL, so we’ll see how things go.
"If I have to wait another three weeks I’d rather do that then potentially risk hurting it again."
Drummond's commitment through his rehab has been noted at Punt Road Oval, and last Saturday he completed a 7km running session over 40 minutes in the pouring rain.
He cut a lonely figure as Victoria braced for storms, but putting in the necessary hours on his own motivates the versatile youngster, who moved on to a six-minute running test – covering as much distance as he could in that time – this weekend.
"I’ve had to do a lot of the things on my own so I’m used to training apart from the group," he said.
"I think that sort of stuff motivates me a lot, doing it on my own, and if I have to do it on a Saturday on my own it's fine, I’m not too worried about that.
"But it would be nice to be back full training and kicking the footy rather than running around doing, not pointless things, but things you don’t want to be doing."
The straight line running Drummond is doing now will progress soon into agility patterns and then into random agility work.
After Christmas he will move into contact drills and will ideally have two months of full training before playing, moving into the forward line group in 2018 where he will fight for a spot as a pressure forward.
The mental challenges coming back from a second knee reconstruction were there initially, but Drummond said he had gained confidence in knowing he had completed a full rehabilitation before.
"I overcame those fears in the first one so I’m ready to tackle playing again … it’s a positive out of doing both, if you can take one out of it," he said.
"When I was doing new things like jumping or landing or changing direction, if I have time to think about it sometimes I’m a bit cautious.
"But I’ve got over the small fears I had in the first one and it's set me up well and I'm not really worried about it with the second one."
Both of Drummond's parents suffered ACL tears, with his Dad tearing both playing local footy and his Mum suffering the injury playing netball.
Drummond's surgeon explained to him that having knees that are susceptible to the injury can be passed down genetically, but the reconstruction process makes the ligaments stronger.
Now on the home stretch, and with two stable knees, Drummond hasn't had to look far for motivation as he prepares for a change of luck in his fourth season.
"I try to wake up every day and remember what I’m trying to achieve," he said.
"You try to find positive things and things that keep you motivated because nine to 12 months is a long time when it’s your full-time job.
"But watching the boys win the flag and playing in the VFL Grand Final, success like that really motivates me and hopefully next year I can be a part of something like that. It motivates me a lot."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-10/forgotten-tigers-mid-drummond-targets-round-one-return
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Best of Luck to him both knees so cruel kid has worked so hard. Can someone tell us what sort of player he is strengths and weakness.
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Enjoy your last year on a AFL list Nathan.....
Best of Luck to him both knees so cruel kid has worked so hard. Can someone tell us what sort of player he is strengths and weakness.
Strengths: Pace, work rate, courage, tackling.
Weaknesses: Disposal, decision making, lack of football nouse, doesn't get a lot of it, usually second to the ball.
In Sum: A midfield Morris x quicker Arnot minus the goal sense x Matty White on a bad day but tougher.
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What a tough run he has had, good luck to him, Mark Coghlan had the worst i think.
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His Mum and Dad have had knee reco's so it is not surprising that Nathan has the same issues.
Happy?
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Mum and Dad have had knee reco's so it is not surprising that Nathan has the same issues.
Is he your brother? :lol
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Mum and Dad have had knee reco's so it is not surprising that Nathan has the same issues.
Is he your brother? :lol
I thought the same thing :lol
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Almost nine months after his second ACL reconstruction, @DrummondNathan talks about his rehab and what's been happening on #QLDcamp2018:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-01-24/drummonds-first-days-of-camp-qldcamp2018
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Injured Tiger Nathan Drummond is edging closer to a return to full training, after rupturing the ACL in his left knee nine months ago.
Drummond sustained the season-ending injury whilst playing for the VFL Tigers last April, almost one-year to the day after he ruptured the ACL in his right knee whilst making his AFL debut for Richmond.
Speaking on the second day of Richmond’s pre-season camp on the Sunshine Coast, Drummond said his immediate goals were to start playing and training.
“I’m nearly nine months into my ACL reconstruction, so I’ve started doing a bit of training with the group. It’s more non-contact drills, kicking and all those sorts of drills, which is exciting to be back and a bit more part of the group,” Drummond said.
“I feel like I’m not too far away from playing, hopefully I need about two months of full training and I’ll be back into it.”
Quick and agile, Drummond was drafted to the Tigers with pick No. 52 in the 2014 AFL National Draft.
A talented midfielder for the Murray Bushrangers, the 23-year-old expects to play a different role for the Club in 2018.
“I’m in the forward line group this year. I was in the midfield group last year, so just learning as much as I can about that role and trying to learn off players like Jack (Riewoldt) and Dan Butler and players that had a lot of success last year who can teach me a bit about the forward line…”
The Tigers have returned to the Sunshine Coast for a second consecutive year for their pre-season training camp, which began on Monday with an open training session at Maroochydore Multi Sports Complex.
“(Monday) was our main training session, so I did a bit of training for about three hours… it was pretty hot,” Drummond said.
“I don’t know how many people there were but it looked like a few hundred out at training, all wearing their Tiger guernseys and scarves. They watched for about three hours in the pretty hot sun so it was really good of them to support the boys.”
Drummond said the focus of the camp was to train hard, but also build strong relationships.
“You’re building connection and relationships with each other and trying to get to know the younger boys a little bit better and learn a bit about them away from footy,” Drummond said.
“When you’re at the club you go home straight after training and miss those opportunities to get to know them on a personal level.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-01-24/drummond-excited-to-return-to-training
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Comeback Tiger set for forward role on return
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Jan 31, 2018 10:40 AM
NATHAN Drummond will attempt to restart his career in Richmond's forward line when he returns from a second knee reconstruction this year.
Drummond, 23, has been training with the Tigers' forwards in a bid to hold down a half-forward role, similar to what premiership player Kane Lambert plays.
With an eye on March match simulation and a potential round one return, Drummond has been earmarked to further increase the Tigers' forward line depth when he overcomes the left ACL repair he underwent in April last year.
"We think 'Drummo' can do that sort of role, where he can get up the field and back again," Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch told the club's website.
"You can consider him a bit of a mid, a bit of a forward.
"Obviously, his first thing is to get back from his knee and get confidence in himself and that belief again in his performance, that's first and foremost, but we feel there's a gap there for Drummo to fit into."
Drummond's latest heartbreaking injury happened in a VFL game last season, almost exactly two years after he suffered the same ligament tear in his right knee in his AFL debut.
He has been notably diligent in his second bout of rehabilitation, completing solo running sessions at the club in the lead up to Christmas.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-31/nathan-drummond-set-for-forward-role-on-return
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Hmmmm. Interesting.
Rioli replacement early?
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He'd be behind Bolton,Stengle & probably even Higgins....in terms of skill & football nouse, he's more similar to Castagna but probably not even that "good".... :shh
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I'd have thought that after what we saw last season, even the most negative Tigers fans would have learnt the lesson that it is stupid to write-off players. FFS, we won a flag on the back of half a dozen blokes who according to some were hopeless, limited scrubbers who were no chance to help us win a flag.
Drummond has played a half a game of AFL football and yet there are still people prepared to denigrate him as an AFL footballer. I get it that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I know I get negative from time to time, but seriously, we have just won a flag and some still can't get past the shadows of the past.
Best of luck Nathan Drummond. You deserve it if you make it back from the injuries you have suffered, and quite frankly, all I want from you or any of the guys on our list is that you give it your best shot and leave nothing in the tank.
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Won't make it....
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From what I've seen, he will struggle to make it. However, he hasn't had a good run at it and if he can stay on the field, you never know how far he maybe able to elevate himself. Good luck to the lad. I hope he proves me wrong!
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Luckless former Tiger Nathan Drummond will suit up for Footscray in the VFL in 2019, hoping an injury-free season will lead him back to an AFL club.
The 23-year-old will start pre-season with the Bulldogs this week after signing a one-year contract with the club following his delisting from Richmond last month.
Drummond knew in late July he was unlikely to be at Richmond beyond this season.
Coach Damien Hardwick had bluntly told him he needed to play – and play well – towards the season's end to earn a new deal.
Two days after their chat, Drummond suffered another hamstring injury at training and the surgery to repair a hole in his tendon was ordered.
His season was over, as was his career in the yellow and black.
He could have walked away then, but his pride meant he kept training with the players as they geared up for finals.
"I wanted to maintain a professional approach, rather than sulking and thinking it was the end," he said.
"I wanted to keep a positive mindset of trying to get something out of that last two months even though I wasn't playing.
"I'm not that sort of person [to walk away]. I've always been pretty professional with the way I've gone about it and I never wanted to leave on bad terms either."
Drummond travelled to Thailand for the Tigers' end of season trip, despite admitting it was tough to accept he wouldn't be returning to start pre-season with them.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-21/luckless-former-tiger-drummond-hopes-vfl-path-leads-back-to-lifeline