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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: MintOnLamb on February 24, 2015, 09:16:10 AM
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37 Days - 10 hours and counting to go, here is something pointless to provide you with a 5 second diversion.
As trite as it may seem, Dimma is likely to either be a hero or goat by the end of this year. 2 finals wins is a pass mark. If this doesn't happen then maybe this topic, with different coaches to consider, will be quite pertinent.
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As trite as it may seem, Dimma is likely to either be a hero or goat by the end of this year.
Dimma G.O.A.T.
Seriously this is a complete hypothetical. No one has a clue how things would have turned out if we got Hinkley.
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As trite as it may seem, Dimma is likely to either be a hero or goat by the end of this year.
Dimma G.O.A.T.
Seriously this is a complete hypothetical. No one has a clue how things would have turned out if we got Hinkley.
Greatest of All Time? Hasn't even won a final yet...
I remember seeing Ken's 3 quarter time address when he was coaching some suburban team, won me over instantly. In saying that I think Dimma was right for us at the time. We were bereft of culture & standards.
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I think Hinkley's a superior coach for a number of reasons...though no small part of his success with Port is due to Darren Burgess and if we'd got him 2010, I doubt he would've been able to get Burgess before 2013, if at all, considering his wife wanting live in Adelaide was the determining factor in him going to Port.
So would've been interesting to see how Hinkley would've gone cleaning out & building on our 2009 list and then coaching it with an inferior fitness staff.
EDIT: Sorry didn't see the poll question just read the title & OP....in the last two years.....yeah probably would've done better because he's better tactician with higher standards IMO.....but again....would he have had Burgess and if not, how well would he have done without him?
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I think Hinkley's a superior coach for a number of reasons...though no small part of his success with Port is due to Darren Burgess and if we'd got him 2010, I doubt he would've been able to get Burgess before 2013, if at all, considering his wife wanting live in Adelaide was the determining factor in him going to Port.
So would've been interesting to see how Hinkley would've gone cleaning out & building on our 2009 list and then coaching it with an inferior fitness staff.
EDIT: Sorry didn't see the poll question just read the title & OP....in the last two years.....yeah probably would've done better because he's better tactician with higher standards IMO.....but again....would he have had Burgess and if not, how well would he have done without him?
Interesting, Hinkley and Burgess would have been a great base, Still its in the never never land and all pure supposition.
Hinkley's getting some airplay today. Never go against the family!!
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
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We would be a very attractive proposition for a coach now, given our sound off-field position, our 'big club' prestige and a list that is at worst mediocre.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
Wallace? :lol
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
Wallace? :lol
If Spud is unavailable then yes.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
I'm thinking he's signed up until end of next year?
Getting into finals again and sacking him with a year to go on his contract sounds like something St. Kilda would do.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
I'm thinking he's signed up until end of next year?
Getting into finals again and sacking him with a year to go on his contract sounds like something St. Kilda would do.
Is he? I thought it was until the end of this year.
Frankly, if he fails in finals again this year then he would have had a fair crack and its time to move on.
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hardwick aint getting sacked anytime soon lads. theyre not gonna sack a black who has taken Richmond to finals like hardwick.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
even if they somehow won a final, he still needs to move on.
Move away.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
even if they somehow won a final, he still needs to move on.
Move away.
Why?
He would be the first Richmond coach in since forever to take Richmond to the finals 3 years in a row plus win a final.
I understand that expectations have risen but it's no mean feat what Hardwick has been able to achieve as coach so far at a historical basket case of a club.
I think our window is open for the next few years but unless there's a glaringly better coaching option available (who would you suggest?) then I can't see that changing the coach right now would automatically guarantee a better result.
Happy to be proven wrong but could it just be a case of the grass being greener because expectations have risen given we have finally, FINALLY started to improve as a club.
That said it's a huge year for Hardwick no doubt. We do need to keep going forward.
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Crucial year for Dimma. He needs to win a final or move on, and I think he knows that.
Agree with the sentiment that he was a good choice for where we were at, but if the time comes to part ways then I think our next coach should be a hard bastard with some tactical nouse - a 'finals' coach if you like.
even if they somehow won a final, he still needs to move on.
Move away.
Why?
He would be the first Richmond coach in since forever to take Richmond to the finals 3 years in a row plus win a final.
I understand that expectations have risen but it's no mean feat what Hardwick has been able to achieve as coach so far at a historical basket case of a club.
I think our window is open for the next few years but unless there's a glaringly better coaching option available (who would you suggest?) then I can't see that changing the coach right now would automatically guarantee a better result.
Happy to be proven wrong but could it just be a case of the grass being greener because expectations have risen given we have finally, FINALLY started to improve as a club.
That said it's a huge year for Hardwick no doubt. We do need to keep going forward.
I think what he is saying is that if we win a final it wont be a win in a real final
And no I can't explain any further
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It's to be more like how St Kilda treat their coaches. That model which sees coaches leave or be sacked after playing finals.
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If we finish out of the 8 this year (as the odds indicate) we will have slid from 5th to 8th to 9th/10th and would have most likely won less games every year.
He'd have to go, surely.....
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I think it has been settled now, Hinkley is a dud, Dimma is tops and a deserved winner of coach of the year
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I just voted the last option, :cheers
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I wouldn't be surprised if a fair few posters that were wiser and have cooler heads now place their vote.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a fair few posters that were wiser and have cooler heads now place their vote.
Was going to vote until I realised how old the thread was.
Just for the record, I would've picked Dimma two years ago :thumbsup and then again last year.
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So who genuinely believes we'd still be in a prelim if Caracella wasn't here? :shh
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So who genuinely believes we'd still be in a prelim if Caracella wasn't here? :shh
Typical - didn't post at all yesterday now back posting your usual toxic crap .
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Typical - to single out that post and then get on your high horse.
Gotta laugh at thinking that posting on the internet is the first priority after our first finals win in 16 years and the sign of a "true supporter".
After actually attending the match I was busy celebrating in real llife and attending our VFL final...what were doing champ, apart from being a "staunch" member of the keyboard cheer squad?
I stand by my post....so either answer the question or keep your thoughts to yourself.... :shh
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Real life ....what ever dude . You would've walked a mile over hot coals to post had we lost .
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So who genuinely believes we'd still be in a prelim if Caracella wasn't here? :shh
Typical - didn't post at all yesterday now back posting your usual toxic crap .
Thats a bit harsh. Dio has been pretty honest with himself if you read all his posts since the game.
That aside Matty, what time did you end up watching the game Friday night after the late catering order? Did any freo supporters spoil the result via sms?
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Real life ....what ever dude . You would've walked a mile over hot coals to post had we lost .
You a mind reader now are you? I don't spend my time time at the football or even when I'm out in general playing with my phone and viewing social media and I generally can't stand people who do, so guess again. Can only wonder when would you have posted a what would those posts would've looked like had we lost another final...like your posts last year eh? You're self-righteous hypocrite and a fool.
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I started watching the game from the start when it was half time in real life Dooks.
During the third quarter my stomach was i knots so I turned on my phone to find out the score - Richmond 20 points up .
20 minutes later I couldn't help myself and found out the full time score . Enjoyed the last quarter immensely
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Pfftt...a real supporter would've taken the night off....
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I think Dio is taking his frustrations out on me because Dimma will be coach for the indefinite future.
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I started watching the game from the start when it was half time in real life Dooks.
During the third quarter my stomach was i knots so I turned on my phone to find out the score - Richmond 20 points up .
20 minutes later I couldn't help myself and found out the full time score . Enjoyed the last quarter immensely
:thumbsup :gotigers
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I think Dio is taking his frustrations out on me because Dimma will be coach for the indefinite future.
I think it's quite interesting that you still won't answer my initial question and instead have decided to attack me...and I suspect it's because deep down you know the answer. :shh
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I think the only fair way to judge it is off the last games, as such Hinkley is a chump and Dimma's a champ.
We can revisit next year.
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Thanks Chuck good idea
Well it has been a year and time to revisit
Is Hinkley the messiah?, should we make a play?
Do we need to implement the second half turtle impersonation into our game plan?
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:birthday
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I think the only relevant stat is finals won outside of Melbourne.
Hinkley: 2
Dimma: 0
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I think the only relevant stat is finals won outside of Melbourne.
Hinkley: 2
Dimma: 0
Premierships:,
Hinckley 0
Dimma 1
Really the only relevant thing in football...
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LMAO at Port losing to Dockers
Hinkley would have to be one on the most uninspiring coaches going around.
Fitting that they lose to Lyons side in a low scoring boring match
Can’t believe some were spruiking Hinkley over Hardwick
Take yourself out the back and give yourself an uppercut
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Hardwick got rid of Lade and got Caracella & Leppa, Hinkley got rid of Voss and got Lade & Cornes...:shh
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Hardwick got rid of Lade and got Caracella & Leppa, Hinkley got rid of Voss and got Lade & Cornes...:shh
Voss is still @ PA
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Watching Pies v Port I would be filthy if I was a Port supporter.
They are behind and need to lift and they still play the retain possession crap.
They have some talent on the list and are wasting it, Hinkley needs to go at season end, there is no flair, no spark, nothing.
Thank stuff we didn’t get this stuffing spud dud
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
Actually that’s something else Hinkley should resign immediately over, who in their right mind would actually recruit Watts
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
Actually that’s something else Hinkley should resign immediately over, who in their right mind would actually recruit Watts
Didn't we, with Dimma in charge, make a play for Watts at one stage?
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
Actually that’s something else Hinkley should resign immediately over, who in their right mind would actually recruit Watts
Didn't we, with Dimma in charge, make a play for Watts at one stage?
:shh :whistle
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
Rockliffs body is shot. There was one play early in the 4th when port were only a goal down where he was one on one near the square and all he needed to do was put body contact on the defender and he would have easily marked and goaled, but he avoided the contact and it was all lies from there.
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
Actually that’s something else Hinkley should resign immediately over, who in their right mind would actually recruit Watts
Didn't we, with Dimma in charge, make a play for Watts at one stage?
Pics or it didn’t happen
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
What did anyone expect from Watts or Motlop, the best downhill skiers the game has ever seen. How did anyone expect any more than they’ve always gave. Pretenders that will always be found out in finals footy.
Actually that’s something else Hinkley should resign immediately over, who in their right mind would actually recruit Watts
Didn't we, with Dimma in charge, make a play for Watts at one stage?
Pics or it didn’t happen
:lol
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No that was Hannah Mouncey. :shh
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We’ll surely losing to a bunch of druggos when your season is on the line has to be the final straw
Has to go as of now
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Hinkley didn’t have Caracella so argument is moot.
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Well time for the annual match up of the master coaches.
Should we have got Hinkley instead of Dimma?
All will be revealed Saturday.
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not sure they have the talent mate either.
Rokcliff, Jack. The former has become such a crap footballer its incredible the transformation.
Rockliffs body is shot. There was one play early in the 4th when port were only a goal down where he was one on one near the square and all he needed to do was put body contact on the defender and he would have easily marked and goaled, but he avoided the contact and it was all lies from there.
:)
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Well time for the annual match up of the master coaches.
Should we have got Hinkley instead of Dimma?
All will be revealed Saturday.
Haha now that's funny
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Kinky aint got the mustard. We got this
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Alrighty time to get this one out and throbbing again
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Both are good coaches in my opinion. Both coaches also require a decent support network to achieve on field success. Hinkley benefited greatly from having Darren Burgess and they kinda jumped the competition with their elite running in 2014. He also had the cattle, Robbie gray was out of control and Chad Wingard was kicking a ridiculous number of goals.
Of course the wheels fell of the cart at Port and their run and gun style which relied on them being the fittest team in the comp got countered pretty quickly.
I do look at their coaches though and think who the **** are these people?
I don’t follow port enough to know what the players think of Hinkley but I think what’s very clear is that our current playing group and most importantly Martin cotch and our guns are 1000000% behind Hardwick
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Well it took a while but looks like Finkley is the master coach
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Well it took a while but looks like Finkley is the master coach
:lol
He won this round. He was definitely ready and made the team play the game needed to beat us even with us having so many youngsters in the team.
They put someone on Lambert and totally negated his influence.
They mauled Dusty and gave him no time or room at all.
They harassed and pressured better and longer than us.
They also had their talls take contested marks that we couldn’t buy.
Let’s see how they go in finals. I’d like us to have another opportunity when we are fitter and firing.
I think they’ll peak too early and stumble at some point.
I’d still take Hardwick because I don’t really like Hinkley n
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2 flags to Donuts. No comparison.
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Mods please lock thread, surely it has been decided now
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Poor Kenny will probably be available to coach elsewhere next year.
:fishing
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Kenny Stinkley’ing it up
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Poor Kenny will probably be available to coach elsewhere next year.
:fishing
Didn't think losing Voss would make that big of a deal :rollin
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Sorry bit late with the bump
Not a good start for Port but can they come back to give Hinkley the title of Supremo Coach over Dimma
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Alrighty almost time for the ultimate decider for who is the better coach.
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Alrighty almost time for the ultimate decider for who is the better coach.
Chris Scott.
Close thread.
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it will be their grand final make no mistake.
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Looks like Poort are going to lose again
Surely time for Finkley to go
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We will delete all comments made about you Kenneth if you can match dimmas 3 flags.
Come home Kenny.
Has to be a chance
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No thanks.
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This guy is such a dud.
His side wins a few games when his jobs on the line and then they die in the arse
And now he is resigned for a few years
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Can Kochie rescind the contract?
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Carr having second thoughts.... :shh
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Ken Hinkley becomes the first coach in VFL/AFL history to fail to make a grand final in his first 11 years in his first senior coach job #AFLFinals #AFLPowerGiants
https://twitter.com/RonnyLerner/status/1703024720160141660
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Kane Cornes saying last year he'd take Hinkley ahead of Kingsley :blah
https://twitter.com/engels79540/status/1703001608173588637
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/15/this-is-ken-hinkleys-job-port-adelaide-must-be-commended-for-keeping-it-so/
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Under Hinkley:
Port has won just 2 finals in 9 years (3287 days).
Port has lost 4 out of their past 5 home finals at Adelaide Oval.
https://afltables.com/afl/teams/padelaide/allgames.html
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https://twitter.com/SportTalkAUS/status/1703028968532930862