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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 05, 2004, 06:48:26 PM
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Archer is out with that arm infection he has. At least that's one less kanga we have to worry about.
Us relying on Gas in his state and young Schulz to hold done key backline possies is a big worry.
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Hale is also out for the Roos. One less tall to worry about.
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I've only got one request = direct down the middle footy Tiges.
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Give us a break Tiges - great start. No pressure, loose, loose, loose.
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Good to see we've turned up to play - NOT! :-\. Getting smashed in the middle and down back. For crying out loud Sav Rocca is flying.
Tigers 0.0-0
Roos 2.1-13
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4 minutes played - only 2 tigers with one possession each.
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Look like it's all over already froars after only 7 minuntes >:(.
Tiges 0.2-2
Roos 3.1-19
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I wish commentators wouldn't say such and such is a great kick when they're having a shot at goal :-(
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The ironic thing is Otto was a top kick for goal when he first arrived at the club. Strange how some of our players' skills appear to go backwards.
We're just playing into the kangas hands ATM ::).
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How about that handball from Krak - you ripper.
Oh yeah, great goal Joeline lol
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Onya Joel. Going in a bit harder now but still stuffing up. How can you kick the ball into the back of an opponent 20m away ???. Bugger goal to Roos :(.
Tiges 1.3-9 Bowden
Roos 4.1-25
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Woohoo Richooooooooooooooooooo!
Tiges 2.3-15
Roos 4.1-25
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How good is Brown - he is everywhere
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We should be giving Danny a kick up the backside for not having the set-up right for the Roos kick-outs. Roos have kicked 2.1 going coast to coast.
Tiges 2.4-16 Bowden, Richo
Roos 5.2-32
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Timmy, Timmy, Timmy >:(
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How good is Brown - he is everywhere
Without Browny we'd be totally stuffed. He embarrasses everyone else in our side with his silky skills.
As for Fleming he can only go for the man as he has no footy skills.
QTR time:
Tiges 3.4-22 Bowden, Richo, Brown
Roos 5.2-32
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Match status: Qtr Time
Kangaroos (5.2.32) Richmond (3.4.22)
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Fiora's having the best game i've seen him play for a while.
Nice goal Krak.
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Krakouer GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Hartigan GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Tigers in front! Don't know how but we are ;D
Tiges 5.4-34
Roos 5.3-33
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Bloody Chaffey. Geez he's having a shocker of a year. Can't hit a target to save himself ATM. Lucky Roos hit the post. Scores tied.
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That was nths best!
We have 'em now. :o ::)
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I'm predicting a major dummy spit by Richo tonight lol
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6 individual goal kickers.
Reminds me of 95/6
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young fellas got 2,ay! ;D
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Tiges in front at half time 7.6 to 7.5 :)
Our crumbers are doing well tonight - Krak, Browny and Hartigan with goals. Richo's job would be easier if we didn't kick it to him every single time ::). I guess on the bright side at least we trying to go direct. Otto's doing well as well.
Gas doing well on Petrie and Hall picked up on Rocca. Motlop and Harding are causing us trouble.
Browny is absolutely flying. Krakouer was awesome that quarter. Bowden, Newman and Fiora also playing well. Kelvin Moore hasn't looked out of his depth which is great.
Agree Ox. 6 different goalkickers is a good sign.
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Richooooooooooooooooo GOALLLLLLLLL!
Tiges by 8.
8.7 to 7.5
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Dumb bloody turnovers after being on top early on in the quarter. Gift Roos a goal and they get another. We're our own worse enemy >:(
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Roos are doing what they've always done to us - run hard and kill us in the 3rd quarter.
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5 straight Roo goals after they didn't look like kicking one. Thank you Tigers you know how to come up with new ways to cough up the ball and gift goals to the opposition >:(.
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Wallace is coaching from the 3aw box.
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Campbell reported - gone.
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Cambo reported for a slap :P. Geez it's getting worse if that's possible ::).
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Same as last week we go to sleep in the third. Getting smashed in the clearances and second to the ball. We are SOFT as well as dumb!
Tiges 9.8-62
Roos 14.7-91
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Nite boys - i've had enough.
Enjoy :-(
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lol @ sign in box next to 3aw commentators asking Wallace to be our coach.
Dual winners of "duds that we make look like champions" award is Sav Rocca and Corey McKernan. ok they were good players a very long time ago but they have been duds for a couple of years now.
Well down Danny. Hall struggling yet kept on Rocca all game ::).
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I'm not even upset Mighty.
Im willing to cop it sweet for a while longer for all the right reasons.
Every week is another reminder of how much psychological damage
Frawley has instilled among the list.
Bring on 2005 !!!!!
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I know Ox. The positive is Danny will definitely gone after this. Time we did a Tony Shaw and played the kids. Took Danny to late in the last quarter and 6 goals to make a change on Sav Rocca. Might add a number of our pretenders who try to act as AFL standard footballers will be going with him. Thank god for that. We a more than a rabble >:(.
Another positive is we've dropped down two places on the ladder. We desparately need those draft picks.
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It was a pleasure to watch Daniel Wells pull our pants down and bend us over.
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Just got home from the game guys, and what a digrace.
After somehow managing to be in front at half time, the last qtr and a half were terrrible. So was the start of the third qtr even though we had heaps of the ball and went inside 50 plenty of times, we didnt hurt the Roos on the scoreboard.
Players who are inline to be dropped are Hilton(must go), Chaffey, Rodan bring in Tuck and Blumfield and also bring Roach back in and give him game time. Its time for the kids. Others that are struggling are as follows:
Campbell: his lack of pace is really hurting him and his decision making is terrible this season. He should really consider retiring.
Tivendale: Just isnt doing enough, can be very damaging through the middle but seems to be a front runner and only plays well when the team is up and running.
Chaffey: By far his worst season, his constant turnovers/clangers and really hurting us and he has been very reactive on the whole. His future is really in the balance.
Hilton: He is an absolute disgrace, doesnt puch himself at all. Came on to the ground in the 2nd qtr and had the oportunity to present himself at CHF for Krak to puass the ball to him from the wing. He wasnt even interested and shouldnt play again this season.
Rodan: He is lost on the footy field, i really dont think he has the footy smarts for the top level. Doesnt hurt the oposition and is unacountable for his man. Has another year to run and will be his last chance under a new coach next year unless he gets traded.
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I have just got home.
And I am so shattered I cannot describe it.
We had them in the 3rd - when we were 8 points up we had them. North were all over the place and some of their guys heads were down.
Hall took that mark just outside 50 played on tried to handball to Browny who was surrounded - turn over and the Roos kick an easy one and that was the end of that.
What was it 5 goals in about 7 minutes and the game is OVER.
The usual suspects let us down.
Newsflash to you Danny - Stop being loyal to the usual suspects they don't deserve your loyalty, you defending them the only thing they deserve is to be dropped permanantly >:( >:(
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It was a pleasure to watch Daniel Wells pull our pants down and bend us over.
LMAOOOO@John liking to watch.
What about Dr Who copping th big Sav.
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It was quite amazing to watch them capitulate in the way they did.
They've lost it under spud big time and his career as a coach is red rover.
To coin a popular phrase,were a rabble.
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It was quite amazing to watch them capitulate in the way they did.
They've lost it under spud big time and his career as a coach is red rover.
To coin a popular phrase,were a rabble.
You know Ox, I can usually find something positive no matter how small I always try and find something positive. There was nothing tonight the way capitulated was insipid.
Actually I can find something positive....
I am positive that Mark Chaffey is going to win my Golden Turnup. If he isn't dropped there is something wrong - well there's plenty wrong but you know what I mean.
I heard part of Danny's press conference and he was speaking about playing Duncan Kellaway next week to give us some grunt - PLUZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Play the kids - all of them every single one of them.
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WP, you pin-pointed it, that turn-over was the moment we surrendered. After that, it was salami time.
Disappointing, but really, these loses will do us good in the long run. We've been living under an illusion for too long. Even if we did mamage to scape through and win a game like this, we would only be deluding ourselves in thinking we are ok. We are not ok, we are not even a rabble we are something that requires a new term. When we all realise it, we will start to move forward.
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What a joke.
Playing Duncan for some grunt.
LMAO.
All i sw of him at the press conference was him saying how
some guys have to get honest,blah blah.
He looked majorly uncomfortable as he sat with his hand up
the sleeve of his t-shirt.
LMAOOO@Watching a loser who made my club losers looking ucomfortable because he knows he's a loser now.
Chin up Willy m'lad,there's always 2005.....actually there's only 2005 ;)
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It was a pleasure to watch Daniel Wells pull our pants down and bend us over.
LMAOOOO@John liking to watch.
What about Dr Who copping th big Sav.
;D ;D ;D
Ray Who tried hard but the supply to the Sav was too good.
lmfaooo@me wanting to say so many things but not wanting to push it.
lmfaoooo@me doing smilies becuase i'm trying to kick the "lmfaoooo" habit
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I heard part of Danny's press conference and he was speaking about playing Duncan Kellaway next week to give us some grunt - PLUZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Play the kids - all of them every single one of them.
I heard Danny say that too WP :o. If that doesn't demonstrate to the Club that they should tap him on the shoulder now and say Danny you won't be coaching us after this year I don't know what does. Talk about living in the past :P.
I couldn't agree more with your last line WP. Please play the kids now!
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Fatigue no factor for Frawley
12:25:56 AM Sun 6 June, 2004
Matt Burgan
Sportal/exclusive to richmondfc.com.au
Richmond coach Danny Frawley believes three roads trips in the past month had nothing to do with the Tigers 74-point loss to the Kangaroos at Telstra Dome on Saturday night.
Speaking in his post-match media conference, Frawley said matches in Sydney, Adelaide and Perth were not the reason behind the Tigers' second half fade out against the Roos.
"A lot of people asked 'Was it the three interstate trips or the trip back from Perth?' but you can't unfortunately use that as an excuse," Frawley said.
"It was just the opposition ran a lot harder than us and a lot of our players need to look at their professionalism and are they doing everything in their power to be AFL footballers?"
Frawley backed his players when questioned if they were overrated, but his said the group needed to improve as a whole in a variety of areas.
"I'm the coach of the players, so I've got to support them as much as I possibly can, but there was a few things said behind closed doors that hopefully they'll react to in a positive way," Frawley said.
"We're got a really good, honest leadership group off the field, but I believe when it counts, we need to get our hands dirty and play more collision footy - that's the disappointing part."
"You can't put it on any one individual but as a team and as a football department we have to take fully responsibility for that and the only way out of that is to find some grunt and just work through some issues."
Frawley believes the next two home matches against Fremantle and Carlton at home are 'winnable', while he said the injection of several players will help immensely.
He said veteran Duncan Kellaway will return next week :o, adding that he still hoped his body was 'up to it', while midfielder Justin Blumfield is 'a realistic opportunity' to resume.
Frawley, however, was remaining cautious on 2003 Jack Dyer Medallist Mark Coughlan, who is still battling osteitis pubis.
"He's a chance (for the VFL next weekend). I'd love to rush him straight back in - that's what our players dearly need," Frawley said.
"He'll play in a couple of weeks, but we'd love to put the name Mark Coughlan and (Andrew and Duncan) Kellaway in there - those boys have got fibre and they've got a fair bit of going, so it'd be good to get them back, hopefully together in the next three weeks."
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=153389
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"We're got a really good, honest leadership group off the field, but I believe when it counts, we need to get our hands dirty and play more collision footy - that's the disappointing part."
And there in lies another obvious problem. "good honest leadership group off the field".
We need leaders on the bloody field!
And there doesn't seem to be any - Chaffey, Gaspar (as leaders), in particular were shocking.
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A club with no leaders-sounds like us.
Our leadership group is comical.
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Oh, but Dunc will be back next week to give us leadership lol
Danny is delusional. He needs as much as help as Smith.
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I agree WP. The leadership group needs to make it happen on field.
I was apalled at our deterioration in the second half last night and no-one was capable of stopping the rot.
In 2001 we played some very gritty football that prevented some of the avalanches we have seen this year.
Why cant these run ons be stopped via flooding etc.I know its not pretty, but at least with a team such as ours not blessed wth skill, our defeats may not be as severe.
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Toothless Tigers lack 'grunt': Frawley
By Melissa Ryan
June 6, 2004
Richmond coach Danny Frawley has questioned the commitment of his players and will seek to inject more "grunt" into the line-up this week to arrest the club's three-game losing streak, after the Tigers received a 74-point hammering from the Kangaroos last night.
The Tigers were smashed in the second half by the rampaging Roos, managing to scrounge only five goals compared to the Kangaroos' 17. Saverio Rocca booted eight goals for the victors in a performance that pleasantly surprised coach Dean Laidley.
Frawley was disappointed that his players "went back in our shells, which has been an issue from day one this year" after failing to make the most of early opportunities in the third quarter and providing goals to the Roos through errors.
"A lot of our players need to look at their professionalism and whether they're doing everything in their power to be AFL footballers . . . there were a few things said behind closed doors that hopefully they'll react to in a positive way," Frawley said.
"The next two games are winnable again. We can't get ahead of ourselves, especially the position we're in. With Fremantle, they play a different brand of footy and they'll be keen to come over to the 'G on our home ground. We'll probably play guys like Duncan Kellaway and hopefully his body is up to it. We just need to get some grunt in there, and get it in there pretty quick."
Along with Kellaway, coming into line for selection is Justin Blumfield, with both players not having played so far this season. Mark Coughlan could return in the VFL, although Frawley wished he could rush his star midfielder back in from the groin problem that has troubled him this year.
"We've got to make sure we get a team that's going to give our supporters something to cheer for because they've been through a lot this year. We set our season up pretty badly early, we fought back and now we've lost the last three, so it's really disappointing," he said.
The Tigers also were stung by reports levelled against captain Wayne Campbell and Tim Fleming.
Campbell's name was entered in the notebook of umpire Matthew Head during time-on of the third quarter, for striking Kangaroos vice-captain Brent Harvey. Fleming was reported for rough play after an incident in which he collected Ashley Watson late and to the head after Watson had taken a mark.
The Kangaroos' victory was only their second win from the past eight games, and Laidley was pleased with the performance, given the public questioning of his players.
He was also surprised by Rocca's eight-goal haul, not believing that the veteran goalkicker had such a performance left in him.
"Probably not that big, in all honesty. I said before the game that we needed someone to kick five goals, whether it was Leigh Harding, Daniel Motlop, Sav or Drew (Petrie). He did well," Laidley said.
"But he can't be up and down. He needs to be more consistent, same with Corey McKernan. Corey probably knew at half-time that it was just about over but he comes out and does that, that's what he's capable of.
"I don't expect either of them to be best-on-ground but I expect them to show their wares and help Drew or Leigh Harding or Daniel Motlop in the forward line."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/06/05/1086377191851.html?oneclick=true
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Like most others, I’m at wits end to explain anything that goes on with our Club and I’m not saying anything that hasn’t been said before, but it’s good just to get it off my chest all the same. And usually, I’d just read everyone else’s thoughts and leave it at that, but this is just mind numbing stuff.
I should just stop reading or listening to anything, because it just makes my blood boil. Do any of them actually understand what the role of a coach is? Whether it be an assistant, or any other type?
What does it say when the Coach blames players for not being professional enough, after the fact.
"A lot of our players need to look at their professionalism and whether they're doing everything in their power to be AFL footballers . . . there were a few things said behind closed doors that hopefully they'll react to in a positive way," Frawley said.
Isn’t it the responsibility of the coach to know his players, before they get on the field? The sort of effort they make off the field is more than likely the type they will provide on it. And as far as I can see, there haven’t been enough who do the hard yards off the field, as that’s what our results show.
People have been saying this for yonks and we’re just waking up to it. Are we serious?
You only need to look at some of them to know they’re anything but serious. It just can’t be that hard, can it?
But never fear, the future is almost here. With a bit of luck, hopefully some of us will still be sane enough to enjoy it.
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Fraudley is happy to be "GOOD MATES" with the team.
That is the limit of his understanding of true leadership.
The problem is,if u're good mates with spud you become a loser
as he has proven over the last 15 years of his career.
I feel your frustrations to a T Tiger Spirit.
I had the same feelings about his statements on the Sunday Footy show
(from which these quotes originally taken).
2005 - A new era.
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People have been saying this for yonks and we’re just waking up to it. Are we serious?
Problem is that's been happening both on and off-field all this year. We've got former board members going around like they had nothing to do with getting and keeping us in this mess then claiming to have seen the light. Now we've got after 5 YEARS the current admin and coaching staff claiming they have now seen the light. Who do they think they're kidding!
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Problem is that's been happening both on and off-field all this year. We've got former board members going around like they had nothing to do with getting and keeping us in this mess then claiming to have seen the light. Now we've got after 5 YEARS the current admin and coaching staff claiming they have now seen the light. Who do they think they're kidding!
Themselves, I suspect MT.
You just have to wonder about our Club and where we went wrong. At some stage, we obviously had people who knew what they were doing. But now, it’s like we never ever knew how to win and be winners. And it seems that anybody who was part of the successful times doesn’t want anything to do with us today.
We have people running the place who don’t understand footy and the footy culture, who need a history lesson on the Club they run and generally have no understanding of the purpose of a footy Club, which is to provide an environment for players to get the best out of themselves.
Instead, we turn out unmotivated, uncommitted, selfish players. And it’s not necessarily all their fault, because an equal portion of blame goes to the Club.
Unless we get into the 21st Century, as far as developing players goes, then they might as well just pull the white sheet over the place and call the undertaker.
It is not right that players are drafted to this Club only to have next to no chance of achieving anything like what they are capable of. I don’t know why, but that irks me more than anything else. I can live with losing, as much as I hate it and everything else that goes with it, but most players get one chance at a career and when they get drafted to RFC it’s as good as a death sentence for their career.
It has been the same way for countless careers and unless those running the show put aside their own interests and get a grip on reality and why the Club is here in the first place then just close the doors, because, as far as I can see, somewhere along the way, RFC lost sight of what its core business is. As evidenced by the achievements of players when they first arrive to when they leave and the results the Club has produced as a whole.
No, we’re too busy playing board room games to be worrying about the football department. Never mind that this is a “football” club.
Hopefully, I’ll have it all out of my system some time soon.
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Cambo has been cleared of his report.