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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 01, 2015, 03:43:07 AM
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Wallace (yeah, I know) has done a rough mock first round of this year's draft. He has North Ballarat's Darcy Tucker going to Richmond at this early stage.
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https://twitter.com/thelistmanager
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apparently a stinker with Victoria having a particularly bad pool this time around
good news for (some of) mcdonuts, foley, conca, dea, gordon types that might of been otherwise moved on?
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apparently a stinker with Victoria having a particularly bad pool this time around
good news for (some of) mcdonuts, foley, conca, dea, gordon types that might of been otherwise moved on?
so we should've moved them on end of last season? :shh
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I think each club has to have 3 picks minimum anyway. Unless they changed that rule. We should trade for players this time around and bring in 3 kids.
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Every year there are hidden jewels......
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May be a stinker for some but Wiley old FJ has a nasty habit of picking a diamond in the rough :shh don't worry bout that :clapping
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Just upgrade Thomarse, Arnott & Lambert with our first three picks and then pass.
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Just upgrade Thomarse, Arnott & Lambert with our first three picks and then pass.
ithink Lambert shd be given another go unlucky to be injured
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Kerbatieh from Vic metro pls. Also need to get a ruckman that maric can mentor until retirement
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An phenomenal stat:
85% of inside mids drafted since 2001 have been a success. It is a far greater success rate than other player types.
https://twitter.com/FutureStarsTV
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do carlton have to take GSOS first round ?
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Wallace (yeah, I know) has done a rough mock first round of this year's draft. He has North Ballarat's Darcy Tucker going to Richmond at this early stage.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGTfUX3UQAEPKsP.jpg)
https://twitter.com/thelistmanager
How the hell do Sydney and the Giants get picks 3 and 4 irrespective of how high they finish? Unbelievable.
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If SOSOS (son of son of Serge) keeps up his current form then Carlton might not have Pick 1 to play with unless they can rake in some highish picks with a trade cleanout. I don't think he is going to come cheaply under the new rules.
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Wallace (yeah, I know) has done a rough mock first round of this year's draft. He has North Ballarat's Darcy Tucker going to Richmond at this early stage.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGTfUXsUQAIvWkm.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGTfUX3UQAEPKsP.jpg)
https://twitter.com/thelistmanager
How the hell do Sydney and the Giants get picks 3 and 4 irrespective of how high they finish? Unbelievable.
it goes untill 2056
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From Emma Quayle in the Age ...
How's the depth of this year's draft?
Not great. The strength of Metro generally dictates the strength of the draft and this looks like being an off year (let's hope it's a rare one). The first batch of players look very good and clubs would be happy with a pick in the first dozen or so. From then on it's easy to see some some being open to trading out of the first round, which may create opportunities for clubs like Carlton should they go looking for a second first-round pick. Vic Country will provide plenty of first-round talent, SA can be relied upon to provide a handful of solid picks and a few are bound to come through from WA despite concerns from recruiters about why their team has been so poor. New South Wales should also make up some of the slack - 10 or 12 players could be drafted from the NSW/ACT team - but this might be a draft where clubs look to trade or take their minimum picks and get out, rather than load up like a handful of them did last year.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/2015-afl-draft-midseason-preview-20150625-ghwvpy
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Josh Dunkley (son of Swan full-back Andrew Dunkley), who is training with us and loves it down at Punt Rd, is holding off committing to being a Sydney father-son.
Father-son prospect Josh Dunkley yet to decide on Swans
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
June 28, 2015
Josh Dunkley will continue to play for Gippsland in the TAC Cup, but the AFL Academy has organised an arrangement with Richmond allowing the teenager access to the club's facilities through the week.
He also played a game with the club's VFL team as he built up his match fitness before returning for Vic Country against South Australia on Friday where he had seven disposals and 10 tackles against SA in less than 50 per cent of game time.
Dunkley goes into the club each Monday for the team's recovery session, has a light jog, gets on the bike for 20 minutes and does some weights. He has noticed the difference an elite environment has made.
"I'm going in there and doing some touch work and I feel like I'm a lot better with control of the footy, and I'm doing weights four times a week. I feel a lot stronger," he said.
"I'm loving every minute of it and the boys at Richmond have taken me in as well which has been a bit of a surprise. It takes a while to get to know guys like Jack Riewoldt, or Shaun Grigg or Dustin Martin, but now it's sort of like they're your friends.
"It's been really good, I've been lucky to have that kind of access which hopefully will benefit me in the long run."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-28/fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-yet-to-decide-on-swans
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Sounds encouraging :thumbsup
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This bloke any good? And word out there? Size etc?
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:clapping
Bout time
Now get an Irish guy that is not rubbish or a mummy boy
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2015 draft pool looks shallow but there's talent there to take
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
July 2, 2015 4:34 PM
THE CONSENSUS among recruiters heading into this year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships was that the 2015 draft pool was well down on recent years. The hope was that, through the carnival, the best players would go well and more prospects would emerge.
With the six-week, 18-game tournament now complete, all those thoughts proved about right.
The championships showed this isn't the year to rebuild a list through the draft with a stack of picks, because the depth just isn't there. Some clubs will take only one or two live picks and upgrade rookies or re-select delisted players to ensure they meet the minimum of three selections at the draft.
But through some strong, promising and encouraging efforts from a number of other players during the championships, some more talent should be on offer after the opening bunch.
Let's start with the top. A pick in the first round will find a good player, and a pick in the first dozen should be very good. But somewhat unusually, many of the early group will be taller key position prospects this year. Jacob Weitering and Josh Schache are vying for the No.1 selection and either would be deserving.
Behind them, Aaron Francis plays a damaging brand of footy in defence and has shown he can move around up the ground as well.
Injuries have restricted big forwards Sam Weideman, Charlie Curnow and Ryan Burton this year but all shape as possible early picks with healthy medical checks, while Harry McKay gives more and more glimpses of his skill with each game.
Athletic tall forwards who are 200cm are hard to find so he could push up, and the same applies for Eric Hipwood, whose carnival for Queensland saw more people get excited by how he will be able to develop.
Hipwood, tied to the Brisbane Lions via its academy, is one of perhaps seven or eight of the best 25 or so prospects attached to northern clubs.
Ben Keays (Brisbane Lions) won the Harrison Medal as the best player in division two and Jacob Hopper (GWS) wasn't far behind him, while Harrison Himmelberg (GWS) and Matthew Flynn (GWS) also performed consistently for NSW-ACT, who were without key midfielders Callum Mills (Sydney Swans) and Matthew Kennedy (GWS).
The championships helped add some beef to the top group, with a number of players pushing themselves up. From South Australia, Riley Bonner gave consistent run off half-back, Luke Partington dug into countless contests and offered some explosiveness from stoppages, and Wayne Milera's speed and tricks near goal will appeal.
Brayden Hackett was a highlight for Western Australia in a poor carnival, while small Tasmanian midfielder Kieran Lovell could not have done much more for his team across the three games. He finished the carnival averaging 35 disposals (as well as 34 disposals in four TAC Cup games).
His teammate Mitchell Hibberd looks likely to be the first player from that team drafted, though, with the athletic half-back shaping as a riser up the ranks in the second half of the year. Hibberd, like Himmelberg, is a good example of the AFL's 19-year-old rule working well, with both overlooked at last year's draft due to injury but having this year to go again as overagers.
The unbeaten Vic Country will provide plenty of draftees, South Australia will produce a few solid players beyond the obvious, and some Western Australian prospects will benefit from tasting senior WAFL footy in the back end of the year. The developing states – Queensland and NSW/ACT – have also got some exciting players to choose.
Despite their last-gasp win in their final game, Vic Metro was a disappointment. The draft generally relies on about 25 per cent of the pool to come from Metro, but the numbers will drop this year, with Harley Balic a top-10 chance and Jade Gresham also doing his stocks no harm in his five games.
They also blooded only a couple of bottom-agers, with Jordan Gallucci the best, meaning next year's group might also not have the depth of previous Metro teams.
On the surface Country will have a good group again next year, with the likes of Ben Ainsworth, Jy Simpkin, Jordan Berry and Will Brodie impressing, while brighter times seem ahead for Western Australia, with Sam Petrevski-Seton, Sam Powell-Pepper and Josh Rotham exciting at stages.
Clubs need to keep an eye on the next crops, particularly with the trading of future draft picks on the horizon. That's why recruiting teams will head with interest to the Gold Coast on Friday ahead of the under-16 championships, which start on Saturday.
They left the corresponding championships two years ago sensing the 2015 draft crop would not be one of the strongest, so what will the first impression of 2017's intake be?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-02/2015-draft-pool-looks-shallow-but-theres-talent-there-to-take
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Derek Hine (Collingwood's recruiting manager) reckons up to 7 of this year's top 10 draft picks will be talls. So a couple of decent mids may slide.
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The Adelaide tall back looks alright
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Josh Dunkley (son of Swan full-back Andrew Dunkley), who is training with us and loves it down at Punt Rd, is holding off committing to being a Sydney father-son.
Father-son prospect Josh Dunkley yet to decide on Swans
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
June 28, 2015
Josh Dunkley will continue to play for Gippsland in the TAC Cup, but the AFL Academy has organised an arrangement with Richmond allowing the teenager access to the club's facilities through the week.
He also played a game with the club's VFL team as he built up his match fitness before returning for Vic Country against South Australia on Friday where he had seven disposals and 10 tackles against SA in less than 50 per cent of game time.
Dunkley goes into the club each Monday for the team's recovery session, has a light jog, gets on the bike for 20 minutes and does some weights. He has noticed the difference an elite environment has made.
"I'm going in there and doing some touch work and I feel like I'm a lot better with control of the footy, and I'm doing weights four times a week. I feel a lot stronger," he said.
"I'm loving every minute of it and the boys at Richmond have taken me in as well which has been a bit of a surprise. It takes a while to get to know guys like Jack Riewoldt, or Shaun Grigg or Dustin Martin, but now it's sort of like they're your friends.
"It's been really good, I've been lucky to have that kind of access which hopefully will benefit me in the long run."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-28/fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-yet-to-decide-on-swans
Dunkley rated 10th in the Phantom draft. No chance to come to the Tigers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide)
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Josh Dunkley (son of Swan full-back Andrew Dunkley), who is training with us and loves it down at Punt Rd, is holding off committing to being a Sydney father-son.
Father-son prospect Josh Dunkley yet to decide on Swans
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
June 28, 2015
Josh Dunkley will continue to play for Gippsland in the TAC Cup, but the AFL Academy has organised an arrangement with Richmond allowing the teenager access to the club's facilities through the week.
He also played a game with the club's VFL team as he built up his match fitness before returning for Vic Country against South Australia on Friday where he had seven disposals and 10 tackles against SA in less than 50 per cent of game time.
Dunkley goes into the club each Monday for the team's recovery session, has a light jog, gets on the bike for 20 minutes and does some weights. He has noticed the difference an elite environment has made.
"I'm going in there and doing some touch work and I feel like I'm a lot better with control of the footy, and I'm doing weights four times a week. I feel a lot stronger," he said.
"I'm loving every minute of it and the boys at Richmond have taken me in as well which has been a bit of a surprise. It takes a while to get to know guys like Jack Riewoldt, or Shaun Grigg or Dustin Martin, but now it's sort of like they're your friends.
"It's been really good, I've been lucky to have that kind of access which hopefully will benefit me in the long run."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-28/fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-yet-to-decide-on-swans
Dunkley rated 10th in the Phantom draft. No chance to come to the Tigers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide)
Hopefully we trade players for high picks
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Every year there are hidden jewels......
Look out for the next Fyfe at pick 19 which every team overlooks.
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Josh Dunkley (son of Swan full-back Andrew Dunkley), who is training with us and loves it down at Punt Rd, is holding off committing to being a Sydney father-son.
Father-son prospect Josh Dunkley yet to decide on Swans
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
June 28, 2015
Josh Dunkley will continue to play for Gippsland in the TAC Cup, but the AFL Academy has organised an arrangement with Richmond allowing the teenager access to the club's facilities through the week.
He also played a game with the club's VFL team as he built up his match fitness before returning for Vic Country against South Australia on Friday where he had seven disposals and 10 tackles against SA in less than 50 per cent of game time.
Dunkley goes into the club each Monday for the team's recovery session, has a light jog, gets on the bike for 20 minutes and does some weights. He has noticed the difference an elite environment has made.
"I'm going in there and doing some touch work and I feel like I'm a lot better with control of the footy, and I'm doing weights four times a week. I feel a lot stronger," he said.
"I'm loving every minute of it and the boys at Richmond have taken me in as well which has been a bit of a surprise. It takes a while to get to know guys like Jack Riewoldt, or Shaun Grigg or Dustin Martin, but now it's sort of like they're your friends.
"It's been really good, I've been lucky to have that kind of access which hopefully will benefit me in the long run."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-28/fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-yet-to-decide-on-swans
Dunkley rated 10th in the Phantom draft. No chance to come to the Tigers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/2015-draft-phantom-form-guide)
Hopefully we trade players for high picks
I just cant see us changing tack. We havent been like that for Dimmas term, I doubt we will change now. Theyve put such effort and games into this list I doubt they see a pick 1-5 worth losing a lids with 250 odd games.
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We've currently got pick 13 in this year's draft which the Herald-Sun have Harley Balic at in their first round phantom draft.
2015 AFL National Draft: Mock first round featuring best Under 18 talent
Adam Baldwin
FOX SPORTS
July 08, 2015 11:44AM
VICTORIA Country provided just 12 draftees in 2014, but it could have five players inside the first ten picks this year.
Country went undefeated through the Under 18 national championships and had eight players selected in the All-Australian team.
Most experts have Country bookends Jacob Weitering and Josh Schache pegged as the first and second picks.
On the flip side Victoria Metro had 25 of its academy players selected last year, but after winning just two games throughout the carnival that number is set to drop.
A weak Victoria Metro region suggests a shallow draft, however another contributing factor is the number of young guns battling injury.
First round chances Callum Mills, Matthew Kennedy, Sam Weideman, Charlie Curnow and Ryan Burton didn’t feature at all through the championships, while Josh Dunkley played only twice.
The national championship has been run and won, but there’s still plenty to play out between now and draft night on November 27.
For this reason, naming a possible first round this far out is thwart with danger as ladder position is set to dictate how it unfolds. There is also the academy bidding system to consider.
With that in mind, here’s how the first round of the 2015 draft might look.
1. JACOB WEITERING
Dandenong Stringrays/Mt Eliza
Height: 195cm
Weight: 90kg
Weitering firmed as a top three selection thanks to outstanding form for the AFL Academy against AFL-listed players in two games against VFL opposition in April. He did nothing throughout the championships to suggest the hype is not justified. Weitering’s strength is his contested marking ability, but his ball distribution is also first class. His ability to intercept mark and then swing on to his right foot and hit a target makes him a dual threat. He was even thrown into the forward line at times, underling his potential as an AFL swingman in the future.
2. JOSH SCHACHE
Murray Bushrangers/Seymour
Height: 199cm
Weight: 96kg
Schache was a standout selection for the Larke medal as the best player in Division 1 with 24 goals in six games. He nailed eight against WA, plus bags of five and six against SA. Schache is strong through the core and is commanding in the air when set. His kicking action is simple, yet very effective. He has a big tank, is mobile for his size and can help out in the ruck when required. He models his game on Travis Cloke.
3. AARON FRANCIS
West Adelaide/Loxton North
Height: 190cm
Weight: 86kg
Francis monstered the opposition at times during the carnival and put his name up in lights with 22 disposals and four goals against WA in SA’s third game. He was used all over the ground during the championships, but looks most at home as a defender. His strength is his ability to intercept the ball and this is what makes him a prospective top pick. He’s grown in confidence over the past 12 months and this shows on the field. He is not yet an elite midfielder at this level and he needs to build his tank. Some question whether he is big enough to be a key defender at AFL level, others insist his leap allows him to play taller than 190cm.
4. CALLUM MILLS
North Shore
Height: 186cm
Weight: 80kg
Mills is a competitive and combative midfielder who has been a part of the Sydney Swans academy program since he was 13 years old. His family’s friendship with Swans chairman Andrew Pridham prompted his switch from rugby union to AFL. He was crowned All-Australian at Under 18 level in 2014, but a shin injury prevented him from captaining NSW/ACT in this year’s carnival. He will play his first game of the season, for the Swans NEAFL side, in the coming weeks. Mills is likely to draw a bid from a rival club, but is almost certain to remain a Swan. He will cost Sydney its first pick, at least.
5. JACOB HOPPER
North Ballarat/Leeton-Whitton
Height: 186cm
Weight: 82kg
Hopper is a midfield bull, who can go forward and take a strong mark. He skippered NSW/ACT in the championships and is a member of the GWS Giants Academy, but has played for TAC Cup club North Ballarat since boarding at St Patrick’s College. He averaged 26 disposals across three games in the carnival and has kicked 15 goals in six games for the Rebels this year, including a bag of five. Hopper is another who looks certain to be snapped up under the academy bidding system.
6. SAM WEIDEMAN
Eastern Ranges/Vermont
Height: 196cm
Weight: 91kg
The athletic forward with strong AFL bloodlines missed the entire carnival when a previous ankle stress injury flared. He hopes to return to play in the TAC Cup finals series, but may not play again this year. At the front of recruiter’s minds will be a bag of five opposed Dandenong Stringrays and Vic Country defender Kieran Collins. He also kicked two goals and took five marks in a breathtaking first quarter playing against the Northern Blues for the AFL Academy on the MCG. A healthy medical report will make Weideman a draft bargain.
7. DARCY PARISH
Geelong Falcons/Winchelsea
Height: 181cm
Weight: 73kg
Parish missed the first two games of the championships but returned for the third fixture and was consistent throughout the carnival. He was quiet in the home win over SA, but bounced back with his best performance in the final game with 25 disposals and 148 ranking points. He’s quick, plays with bounce and penetrates with his disposal. He was All-Australian in his bottom age year and would be on the wish list of every club. He could easily slide up this board with hot form in the second half of the season.
8. RHYS MATHIESON
Geelong Falcons/Bell Park
Height: 185cm
Weight: 79kg
In his own words, grunt is what Rhys Mathieson brings to the midfield. The Geelong Falcon is a contested footy winning beast, he averaged six clearances for Victoria Country and models his game on Joel Selwood. Mathieson might not be as polished as some of the other midfielders in this list, but he’s the sort of player coaches want in their side. He had another outstanding carnival and is a big reason why Country was undefeated. He’s a winner and plays like one.
9. HARRY McKAY
Warragul/Gippsland Power
Height: 200cm
Weight: 85kg
An athletic tall forward who has shot up the draft board with impressive early season TAC Cup form. In his first season for Gippsland, McKay has kicked 15 goals from seven games, including four against a Dandenong defence boasting Jacob Weitering and Kieran Collins. He enhanced his reputation with a solid championships playing in front of Josh Schache, where he worked between the arcs and impressed with his mobility and agility. He is one of the youngest players eligible for this year’s draft and is considered to have significant upside.
10. MATTHEW KENNEDY
Collingullie-GP
Height: 187cm
Weight: 84kg
A creative goal kicking midfielder who hails from the Riverina area and joined the GWS Giants academy this year. He missed the national championships with a knee injury that is likely to sideline him for the remainder of the season. However, he dominated for the NSW/ACT Rams through five games against TAC Cup opposition earlier this year, averaging 23 disposals. With Kennedy joining Hopper in first round calculations, it presents a delicate situation for the Giants should they wish to retain both players.
11. CALLUM AH CHEE
South Fremantle/Klemscott
Height: 182cm
Weight: 71kg
Ah Chee probably didn’t have the carnival he was hoping for, but for periods he looked every bit the top ten pick. He was used in a variety of roles, but was his best playing in a high half forward position where his speed and smarts creates space. His best game came in the upset win over Vic Metro. He can do the miraculous, but he also tackles, chases and pressures. Importantly, he’s a good decision maker and brings others into the game. He was named best on ground for the AFL Academy against the Northern Blues in April and pulled down a massive mark.
12. RYAN BURTON
North Adelaide/PHOS Camden
Height: 191cm
Weight: 90kg
Burton looked a future first round selection after starring for SA in the national champs and in four senior SANFL games for the Roosters last year. However, he suffered a complicated knee fracture in August last year and has not played since. He’s a skilful lead up forward and clubs will be watching his progress intently when he returns to the field later this season.
13. HARLEY BALIC
Sandringham Dragons/Parkdale
Height: 186cm
Weight: 80kg
Balic is a junior basketball star who was added to the level two AFL Academy program after his first season of elite underage football with the Sandringham Dragons. He’s moved from the forward into a midfield role this season and models his game on Collingwood’s Scott Pendlebury. He averaged 21 disposals in his first crack at the national championships and was rewarded with All-Australian selection. Balic is a player with enormous upside who could rise up the charts in the second half of the season as his exposure at this level increases.
14. ERIC HIPWOOD
Aspley/Caloundra
Height: 200cm
Weight: 86kg
Hipwood is tall and athletic with amazing agility for his size, but he is still slight. He was used at either end of the ground during the championships, kicking four goals in a quarter against Tasmania before gathering 24 disposals off halfback in the very next match. He is a member of the Brisbane Lions academy and has played five games for the club at NEAFL level this year.
15. LUKE PARTINGTON
Norwood/Tumby Bay
Height: 182cm
Weight: 75kg
Partington is a ball magnet, who most importantly uses the footy well. He was a star for SA in the national championships, averaging 23 disposals on his way to All-Australian selection. He needs to work on his transition running but a debut at senior SANFL level can’t be far away. The SA clubs should have picks around this mark.
16. JOSH DUNKLEY
Sale/Gippsland Power
Height: 189cm
Weight: 82kg
The son of Sydney champ Andrew, Josh Dunkley, overcame a back injury to play the final two games of the carnival for Vic Country. He’s a versatile player, but looks most at home playing across halfback and in the midfield. Dunkley is eligible to join the Swans under the father-son rule, but could yet throw his name in to the draft.
17. DARCY TUCKER
Horsham Saints/North Ballarat Rebels
Height: 184cm
Weight: 78kg
Tucker won All-Australian honours playing off halfback for Vic Country last year, but struggled to recapture the same form when he moved into the midfield early in the championships. However, he finished the carnival strongly and remains highly rated. His strengths will be suited to the modern game. He’s got speed, can break the lines and uses the ball well.
18. BEN KEAYS
Redlands/Morningside
Height: 185cm
Weight: 82kg
Keays is a combative midfielder not blessed with great speed, but he does the little things well. He averaged 33 disposals representing Queensland across four TAC Cup games and won Hunter-Harrison Medal as the Division 2 best player in the national championships, averaging 28 touches and five clearances. He oozes leadership and models his game on Simon Black. Keays is a member of the Brisbane Lions academy, but his future may lay elsewhere depending on the club’s priorities at the end of the year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-national-draft-mock-first-round-featuring-best-under-18-talent/story-fni5ezdm-1227433453896
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Balic looked pretty damn good...also liked that kid who kicked the winner for Metro v SA....Crocker I think his name was...big solid mid with some tricks who tackles well and can take a mark and play up forward. Another good one was Powell- Pepper from WA but I think he's a bottom ager.
Apparently Weideman, despite the Collingwood family connection, is a Richmond supporter.
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CLUBS have been given the green light to trade future draft picks for the first time this year, but will only be able to use selections from one year in the future.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions
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Callum Twomey: It isn't the strongest draft, and that is a reasonably consistent view among clubs and draft watchers. The part where I think it's at its weakest in comparisons to other years is in the 15-25 range, because generally prospects in that range are really proven types. That might not be as much the case this year, but after that point I think there'll be enough good players for clubs with picks in the third and fourth rounds of the draft.
Vic Country will certainly dominate the draft this year (and after looking at the NAB AFL Academy squads this week we expect that dominance for the next couple of years), but Vic Metro did have 19 players invited to the national draft combine.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/blog
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http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-12-18/hishams-week-as-a-tiger
Get him. Athletic, good skills, goal sense. Bit of mongrel. Gone under the radar a bit too
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Not worried what they say, FJ and his team will pick the eyes out of it ,,,,,again :clapping
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Callum Twomey's current Top 25 ...
1. Jacob Weitering
2. Josh Schache
3. Callum Mills
4. Darcy Parish
5. Jacob Hopper
6. Aaron Francis
7. Harley Balic
8. Sam Weideman
9. Matthew Kennedy
10. Rhys Mathieson
11. Darcy Tucker
12. Charlie Curnow
13. Ben Keays
14. Callum Ah Chee
15. Eric Hipwood
16. Josh Dunkley
17. Ryan Burton
18. Riley Bonner
19. Jade Gresham
20. Harry McKay
21. Wayne Milera
22. Tom Cole
23. Kieran Collins
24. Bailey Rice
25. Mitchell Hibberd
Full profiles at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-20/update-phantom-form-guide
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Does anyone know if NEXT year draft - supposed to be strong?
As the draft picks of that draft can be traded. This year
its rare to have two poor drafts in a row
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So we know exactly what we're dealing with here I thought I would delve into a bit of draft History to see which drafts have been hits and misses over the last 12 years.
To do this I have rated each draft as follows....
Players Drafted....
Players still on lists...
First round picks played 100 games
Players to make 50 games
players to make 100 games
and players that made 150 plus games.
I have excluded all Rookie promotions to keep it to just Raw ND picks
I have also only used the guys that were drafted that year and not players that picked up in the ND (ie Luke Ball was from the 2002 draft but was also picked up in the 2008 draft with pick 34 by Collingwood) that had already been drafted before.
now obviously the closer we get to 2014 the harder it is to judge so I will leave the last 3 years out of it for now.
2003
Players Drafted....70
Players still on lists....11
First round picks played 100 games(First 16 picks)....8
Players that played 50-100 games....6
Players that played 100-150 games....4
Players that played 150 plus games....12
Total to make it over 50 games...22
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_AFL_draft
2004
Players Drafted....71
Players still on lists...13
First round picks played 100 games(First 16 picks)....10
Players that played 50-100 games....15
Players that played 100-150 games....8
Players that played 150 plus games....11
Total to make it over 50 games....34
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_AFL_draft
2005
Players Drafted....61
Players still on lists...19
First round picks played 100 games(top 16 picks)....12
Players that played 50-100 games....8
Players that played 100-150 games....4
Players that played 150 plus games....13
Total to make it over 50 games...25
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_draft
2006
Players Drafted....80
Players still on lists...35
First round picks played 100 games(top 16 picks)....11
Players that played 50-100 games....7
Players that played 100-150 games....17
Players that played 150 plus games....10
Total to make it over 50 games....34
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_AFL_draft
2007
Players Drafted....67
Players still on lists...27
First round picks played 100 games(top 16 picks)....10
Players that played 50-100 games....10
Players that played 100-150 games....13
Players that played 150 plus games....5
Total to make it over 50 games....28
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_AFL_draft
2008
Players Drafted....79
Players still on lists...37
First round picks played 100 games(top 16 picks)....8
Players that played 50-100 games....12
Players that played 100-150 games....21
Players that played 150 plus games....0
Total to make it over 50 games...33
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_AFL_draft
2009
Players Drafted....70
Players still on lists...35
First round picks played 75 games(top 16 picks)....7
Players that played 50-75 games....5
Players that played 75-100 games....8
Players that played 100 plus games....9
Total to make it over 50 games....22
That leaves 13 players still on lists that are yet to reach 50 games after 6 seasons
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_AFL_draft
2010
This is the start of the Gold Coast pillage, as you can see it really, hasn't been a great draft for them at all with only 3 of there 10 picks playing 75 games or more.
I've made the first round picks to 17 as if it would have been a natural draft
Players Drafted....78
Players still on lists...67
First round picks played 75 games(top 17 picks)....7
Players that played 50-75 games....9
Players that played 75-100 games....9
Players that played 100 plus games....7
Total to make it over 50 games....25
That leaves 42 players still on lists that are yet to reach 50 games after 5 seasons.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_AFL_draft
Ill leave it at 2010 for now as its to hard to get a good gauge on the next 4 years but going back through you can see how hit or miss an actual Draft can be and honestly outside the first round pick it is literally a lottery!!
As far as which draft has been the worst you'd have to say 2003 was a shocker with 2005 not that far behind it.
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The appropriate link as to where you sourced the info would be good
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:wallywink
The appropriate link as to where you sourced the info would be good
??? I did the research myself, all sourced from Wikipedia.
Would you like a link to each draft year??
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show your working out !!!
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It's all in my brain, it took me hours to go though all the drafts :(
I tell you though I am now mentally scared from reading so many spud names, Our recruiting over the last ten years looks great compared to Melbourns!
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It's all in my brain, it took me hours to go though all the drafts :(
I tell you though I am now mentally scared from reading so many spud names, Our recruiting over the last ten years looks great compared to Melbourns!
Ok will pay that..... this time
I can't bare the thought of your mental health being at risk on my watch :thumbsup
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:wallywinkThe appropriate link as to where you sourced the info would be good
??? I did the research myself, all sourced from Wikipedia.
Would you like a link to each draft year??
Using information from another source still requires referencing. Please use APA6
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Agreed , quote your sources or it's going nowhere fast ::) apart from the round file :lol
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The draft is common knowledge and doesn't need sourced
Hodge ball judd 1 2 3
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I went to all the effort and nobody has acknowledged it :'(
Stuff my life.....
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:wallywinkThe appropriate link as to where you sourced the info would be good
??? I did the research myself, all sourced from Wikipedia.
Would you like a link to each draft year??
Just a Wikipedia link will do
Great job BTW
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:wallywinkThe appropriate link as to where you sourced the info would be good
??? I did the research myself, all sourced from Wikipedia.
Would you like a link to each draft year??
Just a Wikipedia link will do
Great job BTW
Links added....
Thank you.
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I went to all the effort and nobody has acknowledged it :'(
Stuff my life.....
Good job
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Links added....
Thank you.
Thanks
And some of those numbers are scary especially 2008 & 2009, that is total drafted -v- the numbers left on lists.. staggering
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Your club's draft needs and the young players it should chase
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
September 2, 2015
RICHMOND
The Tigers have kept their first round selections recently and have used them well to recruit the likes of Dustin Martin, Reece Conca, Brandon Ellis, Nick Vlastuin, Ben Lennon and Corey Ellis, but if they want to get serious this trade period and actually land a big player, their best pick just might have to go on the table. The Tigers, who were unable to pull off trades for preferred targets David Armitage and Jack Trengove last year, are eying Adam Treloar, Chris Yarran and Steven Motlop, and may need to dangle a carrot in the form of their first draft pick in order to stock up their areas of deficiency – speed, skill off half-back and potentially a small forward – with an experienced player.
First selection: Pick 13-15
Cal Twomey says: Richmond's list is in pretty good shape, evidenced by its strong season. The Tigers have been linked to a number of out-of-contract players, but if they keep their first pick, a hard and tough ball-winner like Josh Dunkley might be in their mix if he chooses not to head to the Sydney Swans as a father-son. He's spending a lot of time at the club and has played with its VFL team in the second half of the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-02/your-clubs-draft-needs
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carscum get picks one and two, due to krez leaving and moron afl rules
why didnt the lions tank :huh
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Brett Anderson twitter:
"Those who doubted that this year's draft is extremely shallow should now be convinced after the #TACCupGF. Its been like that all year.
Drops away after 25. Top 5-6 are a gap ahead of 7-25 too.
Just not as many at top end as other years.
We'll know in 12 years [how it compares to the weak 2003 draft]. Hard to compare to past drafts. From memory though, 2003 was considered at the time to be a weak year too."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Such a shame the blooze picked a time to be crap. :lol
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Dunkley was interviewed tonight on Ch10, it doesn't sound as though he's to keen to go to the Swans. Said he'd see how much interest there is from Vic clubs.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-13#post-41416066
Dunkley, of course, trained at Tigerland this year.
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well at least its a strong draft pool
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good point :thumbsup
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With potentially the worst draft ever coming and our failure to lurer anyone of any great note, other than maybe Yarran (who I'm actually really happy about getting) how do we make ground on the clubs in front of us?
We cannot even win a final??
Geelong will definitely pass us....
It won't be long before the new clubs pass us with shear wait of numbers with their early picks....
How can we turn this around?
Geelong are going to need more decent picks if they are to get Henderson, Danger, Smith and Selwood. Why don't we offer them our pick 12 for Cookatoo? How many mids do they need? He will most likely play 2's most of the year unless they get a heap of injuries.... And I rate this kid from what I've seen this year. Will be a star, only wish it was in a a Tigers jumper.
These are the sort of things I hope our A Team are trying to achieve this week coming.
Also hope they are trying to move on a couple of ours- Astbury, Conca
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I'd love us to use our pick 12 on Ah Chee, but we seldom pick these types. He can be the small forward we need with X factor. If we need more inside / outside mids, Clayton Oliver looks the goods. We really need to keep 12 because although the draft does look weak after pick 25, the first dozen or so are just as good as last years mob.
:gotigers
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I'd love us to use our pick 12 on Ah Chee, but we seldom pick these types. He can be the small forward we need with X factor. If we need more inside / outside mids, Clayton Oliver looks the goods. We really need to keep 12 because although the draft does look weak after pick 25, the first dozen or so are just as good as last years mob.
:gotigers
i think we need to pick the best available ruck. We won't trade for one so may as well develop one.
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I'd love us to use our pick 12 on Ah Chee, but we seldom pick these types. He can be the small forward we need with X factor. If we need more inside / outside mids, Clayton Oliver looks the goods. We really need to keep 12 because although the draft does look weak after pick 25, the first dozen or so are just as good as last years mob.
:gotigers
i think we need to pick the best available ruck. We won't trade for one so may as well develop one.
The best available ruck in this draft is still not going to make a difference for a few years. I wouldn't use pick 12 for that. I would use the very next available pick on one though! :thumbsup
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I'd love us to use our pick 12 on Ah Chee, but we seldom pick these types. He can be the small forward we need with X factor. If we need more inside / outside mids, Clayton Oliver looks the goods. We really need to keep 12 because although the draft does look weak after pick 25, the first dozen or so are just as good as last years mob.
:gotigers
i think we need to pick the best available ruck. We won't trade for one so may as well develop one.
We should be able to contend, by about 2028 then :clapping
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If we still have high enough picks I hope we get Ben Crocker and/or Daniel Rioli.....
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Brett Anderson's current top 10 (post-combine) from Inside Footy ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRG0hqiUkAABdd0.png)
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
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Brett Anderson's current top 10 (post-combine) from Inside Footy ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRG0hqiUkAABdd0.png)
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
Wow. Aaron Francis has slid. I thought he'd go about 3 or 4.
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Female in the draft?
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/2_AA091015MW1163darcy.jpg)
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:lol :lol :lol
Perfect fit for the Dees :shh
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id shag her
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id shag her
Get in line behind Blue 15 :lol
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Hope Richmond don't draft her :-\
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So who are we seriously looking at? Lets hope whoever he is, he is a Victorian, need to remove the go home factor!!
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And is male
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I've not been following the players coming through for a few years now, who is realistic to get to pick 12 and who are you guys hoping for us to draft?
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and is there a point of drafting someone that is not 'ready made'
given the position richmonds list is presently in?
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I've not been following the players coming through for a few years now, who is realistic to get to pick 12 and who are you guys hoping for us to draft?
Once the academy players are included, our pick will probably drop to around 15. Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Darcy Tucker at 15. Josh Dunkley, who did his training at Punt Rd and played a couple of VFL games with us this year is listed at 21. So he's available if he decides to go into the National draft to remain in Victoria rather than go as a Father-Son to the Swans.
1. Jacob Weitering ...... Key Defender (195cm, 93kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
2. Josh Schache ......... Key Forward (199cm, 100kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
3. Callum Mills ............ Midfielder (188cm, 80kg, North Shore, NSW/ACT, Swans' academy)
4. Darcy Parish .......... Midfielder (181cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
5. Jacob Hopper ........ Midfielder (186cm, 82kg, North Ballarat, NSW/ACT, Giants' academy)
6. Matthew Kennedy ... Midfielder (187cm, 88kg, Collingullie, NSW/ACT, Giants' academy)
7. Aaron Francis ......... Tall For/Def (191cm, 92kg, West Adelaide, SA)
8. Sam Weideman ...... Key Forward (196cm, 94kg, Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro)
9. Charlie Curnow ....... Key For/Mid (191cm, 95kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
10. Harley Balic .......... Mid/Half-For (187cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons, Vic Metro)
11. Wayne Milera ........ Half-forward (185cm, 75kg, Central Districts, SA)
12. Ryan Burton ......... Key Forward (191cm, 88kg, North Adelaide, SA)
13. Ben Keays ............ Midfielder (185cm, 83kg, Redlands, Qld, Brisbane Lions' academy)
14. Eric Hipwood ......... Key For/Def (202cm, 84kg, Aspley, Qld, Brisbane Lions' academy)
15. Darcy Tucker ........ Half-back (184cm, 80kg, North Ballarat, Vic Country)
16. Rhys Mathieson .... Midfielder (186cm, 82kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
17. Callum Ah Chee .... Half-forward (182cm, 71kg, South Fremantle, WA)
18. Jade Gresham ...... Midfielder (178cm, 77kg, Northern Knights, Vic Metro)
19. Kieran Collins ...... Key Defender (194cm, 100kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
20. Harry McKay ........ Tall Forward (200cm, 95kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
21. Josh Dunkley ....... Midfielder (189cm, 86kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
22. Riley Bonner ........ Half-back (191cm, 85kg, West Adelaide, SA)
23. Clayton Oliver ...... Midfielder (187cm, 86kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
24. Ryan Clarke ......... Midfielder (185cm, 84kg, Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro)
25. Mitchell Hibberd ...Half-back/Mid (191cm, 85kg, Clarence, Tasmania)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-16/phantom-form-guide-update
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Rucks and KPP's please.
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If we get 17 from Brisbane then use it on Ah Chee and stuff Yarran....
Surprised to see Ben Crocker outside the top 25.....would be excellent if we could snag him as well....
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just for poos and giggles - 12 and 17 for 1 and yarran?
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Trade Griffiths to Brisbane for pick 17.
Trade Astbury to Brisbane for pick 21.
Let's face it Griffiths hasn't delivered and will always be behind Vickery from now on, and with McBean coming through he'll struggle to get a game. Also got McKenzie developing.
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Griffiths for pick 17
Astbury for pick 21
On trade pick 12 and 17 for pick 5 to Saints who want Carlisle and also a top 12 pick.
Trade pick 21 for Yarran.
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Weak draft to do a mega offload.
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Thing is, Vickery has had a ton more games and time to develop than Griff. The club has been patient. Griff went through some flakey crap, maybe he can turn it around like Vickery.
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Drafted one year apart.
Griff has admittedly had some injury concerns.
If there's one thing Griff has on Vickery it's that he's a better aerialist and therefore more useful leading up on the wing.
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If curnow falls to pick 12 we gotta get him. Reckon he could be a surprise top 2 pick though
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Once the academy players are included, our pick will probably drop to around 15. Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Darcy Tucker at 15. Josh Dunkley, who did his training at Punt Rd and played a couple of VFL games with us this year is listed at 21. So he's available if he decides to go into the National draft to remain in Victoria rather than go as a Father-Son to the Swans.
21. Josh Dunkley ....... Midfielder (189cm, 86kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
23. Clayton Oliver ...... Midfielder (187cm, 86kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-16/phantom-form-guide-update
Clayton Oliver also involved with us this year. Pick 12 might be a touch early to take him but the kid is a competitive beast.
He kicks both sides & his disposal by hand would be close to elite IMO.
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Once the academy players are included, our pick will probably drop to around 15. Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Darcy Tucker at 15. Josh Dunkley, who did his training at Punt Rd and played a couple of VFL games with us this year is listed at 21. So he's available if he decides to go into the National draft to remain in Victoria rather than go as a Father-Son to the Swans.
21. Josh Dunkley ....... Midfielder (189cm, 86kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
23. Clayton Oliver ...... Midfielder (187cm, 86kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-16/phantom-form-guide-update
Clayton Oliver also involved with us this year. Pick 12 might be a touch early to take him but the kid is a competitive beast.
He kicks both sides & his disposal by hand would be close to elite IMO.
There we agree. Actually Clayton is going up the charts with a bullet. Some are suggesting top 10 on the back of a spectacular second half of the season.
I think would be a great get at 12.
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There we agree. Actually Clayton is going up the charts with a bullet. Some are suggesting top 10 on the back of a spectacular second half of the season.
I think would be a great get at 12.
I would pull the trigger on him at 12 also.Was actually hoping HE was the reason we wanted to hold on to our 1st pick.
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Trade Griffiths to Brisbane for pick 17.
Trade Astbury to Brisbane for pick 21.
Let's face it Griffiths hasn't delivered and will always be behind Vickery from now on, and with McBean coming through he'll struggle to get a game. Also got McKenzie developing.
id do that, bugger me, if theyre prepared to get in tom bell who I reckon is behind matt Thomas then they should be all over griff
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Brenton Phillips says plenty of talent to be had at the AFL draft
Anne Mather
Adelaide Advertiser
October 19, 2015
SANFL high performance manager Brenton Phillips has hit back at the draft doomsayers, saying there is plenty of quality to be found in this year’s AFL draft pool.
Former Hawthorn recruiting manager Gary Buckenara claims the 2015 draft crop is thin, with three clear groups — an elite top 10, a quality group from 11-to-30 and then speculative picks from pick 31 at the national draft through to the pre-season and rookie drafts.
But Phillips, SA’s under-18 coach, insists the draft depth is not much different to any other year and that rich pickings are there to be had for clubs who do their homework and spend time developing their young players.
“I come out of the development side of football and you watch 18-year-old young men develop and some develop really quickly and some take a little bit of time,’’ Phillips said after watching 13 SANFL players be put through their paces at the State screening session at Netball SA Stadium.
“If you want to invest a bit of time in finding something you’ll find something pretty special from around pick 60 onwards.
“You’ve got to have good structures in place in football clubs, you’ve got to support and you’ve got to actually bring them along slowly.
“Some will jump out really quickly at you but you’ll also get some diamonds down the bottom.
“If you want to develop properly and let them come at their own rate you will still get some really good footballers.’’
Phillips forecast SA could have 15 players drafted this year, with about 10 to be taken at the national draft — to be held in Adelaide on November 24 — and five in the rookie draft.
He said West Adelaide utility Aaron Francis and Central District midfielder/forward Wayne Milera were SA’s two standouts and likely top-10 picks.
High-leaping North Adelaide forward Ryan Burton is the top-10 wildcard, according to Phillips.
Burton did not play a game this year after badly breaking his leg in a college game last year.
“The one you’ve got to assess is Ryan Burton,’’ Phillips said.
“Everyone is trying to get their head around his injury, what that looks like and how he will develop.
“Clearly his talent is good enough to be in the top 10 of the draft this year so it’s just a matter of determining where he’s at as far as injury is concerned.
“Adelaide last year took a punt with Jake Lever (selected at No. 14 following reconstructive knee surgery) and it paid dividends and I think Ryan is in a similar boat.’’
http://www.themercury.com.au/brenton-phillips-says-plenty-of-talent-to-be-had-at-the-afl-draft/story-fnj3twbb-1227573388899
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We should be looking to take this goalie with a later pick.
http://i.imgur.com/nBdDtOM.gifv
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Trade Griffiths to Brisbane for pick 17.
Trade Astbury to Brisbane for pick 21.
Let's face it Griffiths hasn't delivered and will always be behind Vickery from now on, and with McBean coming through he'll struggle to get a game. Also got McKenzie developing.
id do that, bugger me, if theyre prepared to get in tom bell who I reckon is behind matt Thomas then they should be all over griff
Jeez Bojo this aint some sort of dark alley way control yourself please
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I've not been following the players coming through for a few years now, who is realistic to get to pick 12 and who are you guys hoping for us to draft?
Once the academy players are included, our pick will probably drop to around 15. Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Darcy Tucker at 15. Josh Dunkley, who did his training at Punt Rd and played a couple of VFL games with us this year is listed at 21. So he's available if he decides to go into the National draft to remain in Victoria rather than go as a Father-Son to the Swans.
1. Jacob Weitering ...... Key Defender (195cm, 93kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
2. Josh Schache ......... Key Forward (199cm, 100kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
3. Callum Mills ............ Midfielder (188cm, 80kg, North Shore, NSW/ACT, Swans' academy)
4. Darcy Parish .......... Midfielder (181cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
5. Jacob Hopper ........ Midfielder (186cm, 82kg, North Ballarat, NSW/ACT, Giants' academy)
6. Matthew Kennedy ... Midfielder (187cm, 88kg, Collingullie, NSW/ACT, Giants' academy)
7. Aaron Francis ......... Tall For/Def (191cm, 92kg, West Adelaide, SA)
8. Sam Weideman ...... Key Forward (196cm, 94kg, Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro)
9. Charlie Curnow ....... Key For/Mid (191cm, 95kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
10. Harley Balic .......... Mid/Half-For (187cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons, Vic Metro)
11. Wayne Milera ........ Half-forward (185cm, 75kg, Central Districts, SA)
12. Ryan Burton ......... Key Forward (191cm, 88kg, North Adelaide, SA)
13. Ben Keays ............ Midfielder (185cm, 83kg, Redlands, Qld, Brisbane Lions' academy)
14. Eric Hipwood ......... Key For/Def (202cm, 84kg, Aspley, Qld, Brisbane Lions' academy)
15. Darcy Tucker ........ Half-back (184cm, 80kg, North Ballarat, Vic Country)
16. Rhys Mathieson .... Midfielder (186cm, 82kg, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country)
17. Callum Ah Chee .... Half-forward (182cm, 71kg, South Fremantle, WA)
18. Jade Gresham ...... Midfielder (178cm, 77kg, Northern Knights, Vic Metro)
19. Kieran Collins ...... Key Defender (194cm, 100kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
20. Harry McKay ........ Tall Forward (200cm, 95kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
21. Josh Dunkley ....... Midfielder (189cm, 86kg, Gippsland Power, Vic Country)
22. Riley Bonner ........ Half-back (191cm, 85kg, West Adelaide, SA)
23. Clayton Oliver ...... Midfielder (187cm, 86kg, Murray Bushrangers, Vic Country)
24. Ryan Clarke ......... Midfielder (185cm, 84kg, Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro)
25. Mitchell Hibberd ...Half-back/Mid (191cm, 85kg, Clarence, Tasmania)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-16/phantom-form-guide-update
If Carlton continues to be ridiculously obstinate, then it won't be the end of the world picking up two of these kids in the top 20 with picks 12 & 19. The only other pick we have in the top 80 is pick 52. Dunkley at pick 19 would be familiar to us and virtually ready made to play some AFL games next year having already played against men in our VFL side.
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Two out of hipwood/ah chee/oliver/crocker & then hope rioli slides to our third pick...laughin' like drains....
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Two out of hipwood/ah chee/oliver/crocker & then hope rioli slides to our third pick...laughin' like drains....
With just a little luck one of Weideman, Kennedy depending on bids, or Balic could slip to 12. would be happy with any of Tucker, Oliver Hibberd at 19. You never know offer pick 12 for Keays.
I wanted us to take a kid called Markov last year use a late pick on him.
There is good talent available there always is.
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#mini-rebuild
:clapping
My original preference was to top up and have a legitimate go at the flag with say; trelor, Kreuzer, Carlisle
But given the clubs strategy thus far, I would be pleased if they go hard the other way and try get a third top 20 pick ...
The worst leadership is to do nothing ...
If they can snag another Corey Ellis and Lennon types and okay some kid next year instead if Dimmas mates it could be good to watch.
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End of first round compensation
19. Richmond - (received from Gold Coast as part of the Charlie Dixon trade;
received by Gold Coast from Greater Western Sydney via a trade in 2012;
traded to the Giants by Fremantle in 2011;
originally received by the Dockers as compensation for Rhys Palmer)
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#mini-rebuild
:clapping
My original preference was to top up and have a legitimate go at the flag with say; trelor, Kreuzer, Carlisle
But given the clubs strategy thus far, I would be pleased if they go hard the other way and try get a third top 20 pick ...
The worst leadership is to do nothing ...
If they can snag another Corey Ellis and Lennon types and okay some kid next year instead if Dimmas mates it could be good to watch.
Didn't you spend all pre-season making fun of Sir Corey Ellis?
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mr 49%
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I'll rate it.
No ruckman means no serious run at finals
stuffen joke.
poohole.
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I'll rate it.
No ruckman means no serious run at finals
stuffen joke.
poohole.
Hawthorn just won a three peat with very average ruck men.
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hale is pretty handy
McEvoy is better than average
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I'll rate it.
No ruckman means no serious run at finals
stuffen joke.
poohole.
Hawthorn just won a three peat with very average ruck men.
A - they had a plethora of them whereas we have one.
B - They're cluey enough to round up numbers of the most important position in the team.
C - why doesn't hardwick just change our emblem to a hawk ?
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hale is pretty handy
McEvoy is better than average
Plus this
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hale is pretty handy
McEvoy is better than average
They are both scrapers - same as Maric .
Ruck was Hawthorns weakest link in the chain .
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hale is pretty handy
McEvoy is better than average
They are both scrapers - same as Maric .
Ruck was Hawthorns weakest link in the chain .
says ... you
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Premiership ruckman have the last laugh Mat.
Meanwhile our ruckman don't have a clue or are not capable.
Soiling the sandpit of dreams
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19. Kieran Collins ...... Key Defender (194cm, 100kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
How about this kid? Made the U18 AA team as a KPD, big size already. Anybody seen him play? Would probably be available by the time we get our pick.
Otherwise anybody got a clue who we're keen on?
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Out of Ah Chee & Oliver IMO. Will be influenced by whether or not we get Moore as a DFA. Moneyblair will try to cover the inside mid need on the cheap so Hackson can get a small forward with our first pick.
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Out of Ah Chee & Oliver IMO. Will be influenced by whether or not we get Moore as a DFA. Moneyblair will try to cover the inside mid need on the cheap so Hackson can get a small forward with our first pick.
yep i reckon that sounds spot on
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Moore will be rookied IMHO.
Oliver is our best option at 12. Don't mind Ah Chee but Oliver is the more complete player.
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#mini-rebuild
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The worst leadership is to do nothing ...
No. That's no leadership.
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Think I will just sit back and watch this show, who knows who the RFC will select.
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Think I will just sit back and watch this show, who knows who the RFC will select.
That's not like you :shh
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Think I will just sit back and watch this show, who knows who the RFC will select.
You won't be able to help yourself. :snidegrin
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All I want is a to see him bull the boots on and play round one. :gotigers
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RICHMOND
Pick 12: Generally pick 12 is a nice spot to sit and wait on draft night, because the top group generally extends beyond a dozen. There's maybe a bit more uncertainty this year about the players who will be there for the Tigers, but there will be talent available. Richmond could boost its tall forward/ruck stocks by taking Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
Around the mark: Rhys Mathieson, Jade Gresham, Ryan Burton
Richmond protected pick 12 to help fill a need, like ruckman Harry McKay (r). Picture: AFL Media
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-24/who-does-your-club-get-with-its-first-pick
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Out of Ah Chee & Oliver IMO. Will be influenced by whether or not we get Moore as a DFA. Moneyblair will try to cover the inside mid need on the cheap so Hackson can get a small forward with our first pick.
I'd be okay with that actually. We've tried to fill the some forward spot on the cheap and it hasn't come on yet.
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The AFL website is saying we will only be using 3 picks.
Draft crop could be the smallest on record
AFL.com.au
October 27, 2015
THERE could be a record low number of players drafted this year, with clubs tipping there will be no more than 60 prospects brought into the system.
Clubs are expecting a total of approximately 58-60 live selections at November's NAB AFL Draft, which would be the lowest in draft history.
The previous lowest was in 2013, when 63 players were picked. Last year there were 76 players taken by clubs at the national draft.
The thin draft pool this year has seen some clubs peel back their investment in the crop, with many believing the high number of trades and pick swaps in the exchange period was in part due to the shallower draft.
Adelaide, Collingwood, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Richmond and the Sydney Swans could all use just three picks on draft night.
Brisbane, Geelong, Gold Coast, Melbourne, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs are all expected to take four picks to the draft.
With both Essendon and Carlton holding four picks each inside the first 25 selections, the traditional rivals are likely to each take at least five players on draft night as they regenerate their lists after bottom-four finishes.
The total does not include rookie elevations, which are no longer called out as part of draft night.
Clubs will have a better idea of how many picks will be used on Friday, when the first list lodgments are due. Two delisted free agency periods before the draft will also alter the number of free spots on senior lists.
Although clubs such as the Lions, Swans and Greater Western Sydney have stocked up on picks to accrue more points to pay for northern academy prospects in the new bidding system, not every pick will be assigned to a player.
For instance, the Lions hold five straight selections from No.38-42, but they might only enter the draft with four open list spots.
The picks will remain so they can match early bids on academy pair Ben Keays and Eric Hipwood. If that happens and the leftover selections are shifted to the end of the draft, they will disappear if the Lions don't have list spots available.
For the first time, the draft order will change during the night as bids on father-son and academy prospects are matched.
Because the northern clubs are expected to part with multiple picks to pay for their academy picks, other clubs' selections will be brought forward.
For instance, Essendon's pick No.57 may leap forward 10 spots to become pick 47 if early bids are matched and picks are pushed to the end of the draft.
Clubs had a full trial run of the new father-son and academy bidding system last Friday, completing a mock draft using last year's prospects to see permutations of matched bids.
The draft will be held at the Adelaide Convention Centre on November 24.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-27/draft-crop-could-be-the-smallest-on-record
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The AFL website is saying we will only be using 3 picks.
Wonder if that's 3 picks after any rookie promotions or includes rookie promotions :huh3
Would think Lambert will get promoted
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do they still have to make min 3 draft selections?
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do they still have to make min 3 draft selections?
I thought they did
But IIRC from last year they are allowed to use one of those on promoting a rookie
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The AFL website is saying we will only be using 3 picks.
Wonder if that's 3 picks after any rookie promotions or includes rookie promotions :huh3
Would think Lambert will get promoted
The article says that rookie picks are no longer read out as part of the draft - so I assume that means that elevating rookies is actually done before the draft ...? So I guess that clubs would assign a late draft pick to elevate a rookie, eg our pick 120 for Lambert, & then conduct the draft with their remaining picks. I suppose it takes out some of the faffing around late in the draft.
I also assume that we will elevate Lambert ... cant see why not ...
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Is the Victorian team that lost to Heaps to qld
At the u15 carnival.
This years, draft ? Or at least half
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Talk now of Josh Dunkley possibly slipping to the 40s.
@michaelgteach - Where do you rate Josh Dunkley? Is his lack of pace and kicking efficiency as bad as some have suggested?
@BrettAndersonIF - I have him in 40s. Will go a bit earlier though probably.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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That's a good sign, usually these draft experts know pretty early who we are taking at 12.
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Is the Victorian team that lost to Heaps to qld
At the u15 carnival.
This years, draft ? Or at least half
I thought Vic won that, you talking bout the games at Simonds stadium this year?
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Is the Victorian team that lost to Heaps to qld
At the u15 carnival.
This years, draft ? Or at least half
I thought Vic won that, you talking bout the games at Simonds stadium this year?
Just heard someone say recently Victoria usually wins
Yet recently , they lost to qld by 100 points
I am wondering if it is that team, tht now in the upcommin draft pool - or at least 5o%
Would make some sense if it's a poor draft overall , somewhat
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Any interest here in us picking up state league players late in the draft or the rookie draft?
Foxsports has a list of potential VFL players who are a chance ...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-national-draft-2015-10-vfl-players-who-could-be-picked-up/story-e6frf3e3-1227591284674?sv=61a3db3537ae4bc081cd07a56d1b4ddb
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Inside Football's special draft edition is out this week.
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Thursday at newsagents. Digital edition out tomorrow [Wednesday].
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Collins from that lot.
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Josh Dunkley is a hard player to put into a draft range. His inconsistent season means he is a difficult one for recruiters to judge, with some seeing him as a top-20 pick and others viewing him closer to pick 40 or so. He has two more weeks to make a decision as to whether he will nominate for the Sydney Swans as a father-son pick or not, with the final deadline coming on November 20, just four days before the NAB AFL Draft. As for the Eagles, you'd think they would look at him with picks 23 and 31, but given his outwardness about being keen to stay in Victoria, it would be an interesting choice.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/blog
Profile article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-06/18-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-tough-son-of-a-swans-gun-josh-dunkley
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-06/draft-trumps-josh-dunkley
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Paige Cardona’s AFL Phantom Draft – Edition Two:
15: Richmond – Callum Ah Chee
Height: 182cm, Weight: 71kg, DOB: 09/10/1997
Recruited from: South Fremantle
Draft Range: 5-30
Exciting forward that can leap like a flea off a wet dog. Has a terrific skill set and rates elite for speed and his top-end pace. Looks his best when played as a forward, where he offers some zip, class and poise around the 50. The kind of player who makes you gasp and gets you out of your seat. Sets goals up with poise and deft touch when he’s not igniting his side with big-moment goals.
49: Richmond – Hisham Kerbatieh
Height: 177cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 16/05/1997
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Draft Range: 30-rookie
Electric yet smooth small forward who inspires his teammates with his mercurial goals, defensive pressure and desperation inside 50. Is a thumping kick for goal, and has a bag of tricks to boot. Presents as a barometer player, with a big leap and eye for goal that has drawn comparisons to Magpie Jamie Elliott. Gets a big tick for his agility, evasiveness and ridiculous goose-step through traffic. His strong core and team-first attitude means when he’s not kicking goals, he’s setting them up.
http://footyprophet.com/paiges-afl-phantom-draft-edition-two/
I'd doubt we will pass over Oliver if he was available at our pick. Paige has him going later at pick 24 which is the opposite of the draft journos like Anderson and Twomey who have him going early to the Suns.
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Oliver at 24....Curnow lasting until 10......yeah righteo Paige....
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Who slides to Collingwood? Weitering?
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Who slides to Collingwood? Weitering?
Nah. He'll be nominating Collingwood in 2 years. ...
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49: Richmond – Hisham Kerbatieh
Height: 177cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 16/05/1997
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Draft Range: 30-rookie
Electric yet smooth small forward who inspires his teammates with his mercurial goals, defensive pressure and desperation inside 50. Is a thumping kick for goal, and has a bag of tricks to boot. Presents as a barometer player, with a big leap and eye for goal that has drawn comparisons to Magpie Jamie Elliott. Gets a big tick for his agility, evasiveness and ridiculous goose-step through traffic. His strong core and team-first attitude means when he’s not kicking goals, he’s setting them up.
Houlis mate? I'd be happy with him as a late pick if we don't go for a small forward early
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We haven't this year got anyone on the 'permission to train' list. So it looks like we'll be going with kids with our later picks.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/permission-to-train-list-holman-training-with-blues-in-bid-to-continue-career
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The 'draft machine' with the profiles of all the potential draftees is up on the AFL website:
http://www.afl.com.au/draftmachine
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By the way, it's only two weeks to go to the National draft ...
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Any interest in us picking up any state league players?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-10/wa-defender-nathan-broad-headlines-matureage-draft-prospects
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AFL draft 2015: Big SuperCoach scoring draftees to watch out for
Ben Waterworth
FOX SPORTS
November 11, 2015 4:46pm
DEFENDERS
Mitchell Hibberd (Tasmania)
TAC Cup average: 114 points from 3 games
U18 average: 121 points from 3 games
Hibberd is a great athlete who has excellent decision-making ability and efficiency, which always bodes well for SuperCoach scoring. Depending on which club picks him up, Hibberd could feature early in the AFL season, too, if he’s drafted to a lower-ranked club, especially since he’s a year older than most other draftees and has already developed a solid body frame.
DEFENDER-MIDFIELDERS
Tom Cole (Vic Country, Bendigo Pioneers)
TAC Cup average: 121 points from 9 games
Clearly the Pioneers’ best player in 2015, Cole is a classy ball-user off half-back who could also push into the midfield. Just as promising were his performances for Geelong’s VFL side this year, where he averaged 81 points from three games.
Brayden Fiorini (Northern Knights)
TAC Cup average: 141 points from 13 games
Unlikely to be picked up in the first round of the draft, ball magnet and effective ball user Fiorini could turn into the SuperCoach bargain of the year. If Fiorini, who averaged 32 disposals in the TAC Cup and kicked multiple goals in three of last four games, is labelled a dual-position player, jump on and pick him in your backline.
MIDFIELDERS
Kieran Lovell (Tasmania)
TAC Cup average: 160 points from 4 games
U18 average: 187 points from 3 games
Yep, you read those 2015 averages right. Lovell had the footy on a string this season, averaging 35 disposals per game in the under 18s championships and 34 per game in the TAC Cup. Will be a later pick in the draft, so it’s hard to know exactly when he’ll play in 2016, but keep in mind that he’s a natural ball magnet and clearance machine.
Ryan Clarke (Vic Metro, Eastern Ranges)
TAC Cup average: 137 points from 12 games
U18 average: 108 points from 5 games
The quintessential ball magnet who can run all day, Clarke is one of this season’s draft bolters, primarily thanks to his scintillating back end to the season. In three consecutive TAC Cup games mid-season, he racked 30, 42 and 45 disposals respectively. Clarke averaged 30 touches for the year — exciting numbers for SuperCoach owners.
Clayton Oliver (Murray Bushrangers)
TAC Cup average: 135 points from 16 games
Oliver is one of the most electrifying Morrish medal prospects of recent years. The gun midfielder shot up the predicted draft order after a thrilling conclusion to his TAC Cup campaign, finishing the season with an average of 24 disposals and a total of 20 goals from 16 games.
Rhys Mathieson (Vic Country, Geelong Falcons)
TAC Cup average: 122 points from 12 games
U18 average: 106 points from 6 games
Of all the midfielders in this year’s draft class, Mathieson is arguably the most AFL ready-made and could feature the earliest. A contested ball animal with clean hands, Mathieson averaged 20 disposals and five clearances per game in the national championships this season. He can also hit the scoreboard, averaging just under one goal per game in the TAC Cup in 2015.
Nick O’Kearney (Vic Metro, Calder Cannons)
TAC Cup average: 110 points from 13 games
U18 average: 114 points from 5 games
Look up ball magnet in the footy thesaurus and O’Kearney’s name appears as a synonym. But while his ball-winning ability is unquestionable — he averaged 26 touches per game at TAC Cup level and 22 during the carnival — it’s his kicking efficiency that could limit his SuperCoach scoring in 2016. If drafted, however, he’ll be taken late, meaning he’ll be a cheap buy.
MIDFIELDER-FORWARDS
Jade Gresham (Northern Knights, Vic Metro)
TAC Cup average: 146 points from 13 games
U18 average: 134 points from 5 games
The man who likes to model his game on Brent Harvey, Gresham produced excellent, consistent numbers throughout the 2015 season at all levels. A goalkicking midfielder who’s great around stoppages, Gresham also had the best kicking efficiency percentage of all midfielders during this year’s under 18 carnival. He also averaged more than a goal per game at both TAC Cup and championships level.
Ben Crocker (Vic Metro, Oakleigh Chargers)
TAC Cup average: 113 points from 14 matches
A bit of a smokey, Crocker is most suited to a small forward role that can venture into the midfield occasionally. He booted 23 goals from 14 TAC Cup matches, while he also booted the match-winning goal for Vic Metro against South Australia in the championships — and SuperCoach owners all know how valuable a goal like that is.
FORWARDS
Hisham Kerbatieh (Calder Cannons)
TAC Cup average: 120 points from 14 games
While he hasn’t been given much attention by the footy media, Kerbatieh looms as a handy pick-up for a club in this year’s draft. An explosive small forward with freakish ability, Kerbatieh booted 24 goals from 14 TAC Cup games and had an impressive ranking points average despite racking up 20 disposals per game.
Blake Hardwick (Eastern Ranges)
TAC Cup average: 117 points from 16 games
When Hardwick is on a roll, few can stop him. He was the leading goalkicker in the TAC Cup this season, finishing with 56 goals from 16 games. That included goal hauls of 12 against the Bendigo Pioneers, 10 against the Geelong Falcons and eight against Western Jets.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-big-supercoach-scoring-draftees-to-watch-out-for/news-story/75c2c0948f61c1dbc2d4fce13276a688
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Rhys Mathieson (Vic Country, Geelong Falcons)
Of all the midfielders in this year’s draft class, Mathieson is arguably the most AFL ready-made and could feature the earliest.
Watch us get him ::)
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FATHER-son prospect Josh Dunkley is set to snub Sydney in favour of staying in his home state of Victoria and hoping to be drafted by a Melbourne club.
Dunkley spent two weeks training with the Swans at the SCG this year but has spent much of the year training with Richmond where he has developed friendships with a number of players.
He also played one game for the Tigers’ VFL club.
Playing in the TAC Cup for the Gippsland Power, the strong-bodied midfielder is a prolific tackler and, like his father, is a very strong mark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-to-snub-sydney-hopes-to-be-drafted-by-melbourne-club/news-story/dde48ead4f2d7f06bfcb77c9e62bcf6d
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Would of be nice to have a pick between 13 and 51 ...
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Especially when the Northern clubs were practically giving them away to get points for their academy kids.....too busy spending all trade week being distracted by SOS and his ball of Yar(ra)n....
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Emma Quayle
The Age
21 November 2015
... After that comes a large group of midfield-utilities who could be picked anywhere from midway through the first round right through into the 40s.
Here are some of the names to read up on, if your club is picking around there: Aidyn Johnson, Daniel Rioli, Jade Gresham, Ryan Clarke, Tom Cole, Mitchell Hibberd, Brayden Fiorini, Tom Doedee, Luke Partington, Mason Redman, Josh Dunkley, David Cuningham, Rhys Mathieson, Brandon White and Alex Morgan. Ben McKay could be the next best tall, though it's hard to tip where he'll go, as clubs have quite mixed opinions on how they see him developing.
That goes for them all, though. You'll see a lot of these names bob up in many clubs' guides, because this is the sort of draft where a lot of players have one or two stand-out qualities but either obvious flaws or not enough of the other things they'll need, making them hard to separate and place. Different clubs place different emphasis on different attributes, meaning there will be a big discrepancy in how they view and rate some of these players.
There will be other things to look out for on the night. The new format, for one, with clubs submitting their picks online from a separate room and the new bidding system kicking in. It will be interesting to see how many Sudanese-born players have their names called, with four or five boys in with a chance including Reuben William, a Lions Academy player, and Gach Nyuon from the Dandenong Stingrays. Nyuon is one of just a few quality teenage ruck prospects in the pool - it will be interesting to see how many ruckmen end up being picked or left over for the rookie draft - and given the lack of love for the depth and overall quality of the group, this could be a year where a few more mature-agers than usual get a look in.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/which-players-will-help-shape-the-afl-draft-order-20151120-gl3u0y.html
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Clubs partitioned off from the crowd in the room.
No numbers read out to streamline the draft process (i.e. no more "player no. 58382").
First pick announced at 7.14 pm.
Source: SEN
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Richmond's draft table ...
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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One looks asleep, another confused and another probably playing candy crush or clash of clans.
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Here's the draft tracker on the AFL website ...
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker
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Typical Adelaide ferals in the audience - think it's a footy match...
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All pretty boring at the minute
Just get on with it
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Here we go ...
1. Carl - Jacob Weitering
Poor kid.
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Could've had him if we hadn't won all those matches.... :banghead
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Tick tick tick ...
2. Bris - Josh Schache
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This new draft format is woeful, pathetic really
Can't be bothered with it, off to walk the dogs
By the time we get back in a hour or so they should be up to our pick
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Now the draft really starts.
Melbourne has bid on Swans' academy player Callum Mills. Sydney have matched it with a bunch of picks.
3. Sydney - Callum Mills
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Our first pick moves down one to 13. Second pick is up to 48.
4. Melb - Clayton Oliver
Poor bloke.
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Don't like this bidding crap, what a load of poo. Go back to the way it way years ago. Oliver gone.
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No Fat Lingy for us.... :-[
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No bid from Essendon.
5. Ess - Darcy Parish
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Essendon didn't do any homework on academy players so that's why they're not bidding. A gift for the northern clubs.
6. Ess - Aaron Francis
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Suns have bid on Giants' academy player Jacob Hopper. GWS have matched it and gain pick 7 but lose pick 11.
7. GWS - Jacob Hopper
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Oh well GC bidding and ............ :sleep :sleep :sleep
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I know it's dull but if no club had bid then GWS would get a top 10 kid plus Hopper.
8. Gold Coast - Callum Ah Chee.
So that's two of ours gone.
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Yeah we will take a random now, the likes of Ellis or Conca :banghead
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Ah Chee's not here.....
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No bid from Melbourne.
9. Melb - Sam Weideman
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No bid.
10. Carl - Harry McKay
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So now you'd expect Milera to the Crows and Curnow to the Blues before our pick at 13.
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So we only have Rioli left now don't we....
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This new draft format is woeful, pathetic really
Can't be bothered with it, off to walk the dogs
By the time we get back in a hour or so they should be up to our pick
It's so slow. Add to the fact that the live stream is 2 mins behind radio :(
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Yep, WAT.
Gresham, Burton and Clarke would be outside chances for us as well.
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No bid.
11. Adelaide - Wayne Milera
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Burton got a late invite to the draft according to SEN.
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Yep, WAT.
Gresham, Burton and Clarke would be outside chances for us as well.
Gee next year we really need some early picks...trade some out to get them.
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No bid again. GWS to get Kennedy for nix.
12. Charlie Curnow
Blues have gone for 3 talls.
Now it's out turn.
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Curnow gone
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We've put a bid in for Kennedy.
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GWS have matched it.
13. GWS - Matt Kennedy
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Kennedy being bid on with nothing we have :rollin
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Now it's really our turn at pick 14.
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No it's not ...... we've put in another bid.
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God, bid again.....
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Getting too cute :(
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Lions lose picks 36 & 37.
14. Bris - Eric Hipgood (academy)
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Why are we doing this??
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These bids are taking later picks off the table to bring our 51 sooner yeah?
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Our pick is in ...
15. Rich - Daniel Rioli
(see separate thread)
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Rioli, welcome mate.
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These bids are taking later picks off the table to bring our 51 sooner yeah?
Yep. Our second pick is now 47.
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These bids are taking later picks off the table to bring our 51 sooner yeah?
Well while it appears that way but they still get the players they want at their pick so who stuffing knows :help
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Adelaide bid on Himmelberg.
16. GWS - Harrison Himmelberg
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First shock of the night.
17. Adel - Tom Doedee
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These bids are taking later picks off the table to bring our 51 sooner yeah?
Yep. Our second pick is now 47.
Now back out to pick 48 so it doesn't really work like that. We could be pushed back past 52, who knows, it's crap.
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18. St Kilda - Jade Gresham
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19. Haw - Ryan Burton
So the Hawks have taken the risk. When you've won 3 flags on the trot you can.
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These bids are taking later picks off the table to bring our 51 sooner yeah?
Yep. Our second pick is now 47.
Now back out to pick 48 so it doesn't really work like that. We could be pushed back past 52, who knows, it's crap.
It's how the points system works. You rearrange picks to match the bid's worth. But we did it so those clubs couldn't grab a non-academy player and to push our later picks forward.
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Break a leg Ryan!
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20. GC - Brayden Fiorini
21, North - Ben McKay
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22. Haw - Kieren Lovell
No Collins yet.
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Ben McKay lol. Typical soft touch North name. Probably has a fringe too
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23. Carl - David Cunningham
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Break a leg Ryan!
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First round took an hour :P.
Dogs must have bid on Brisbane's Ben Keays.
24. Bris - Ben Keays
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AFL Tracker now two picks ahead of SEN's coverage.
25. WB - Josh Dunkley
Swans must not have matched the Dogs bid for their father-son.
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26. WB - Kieren Collins.
There goes Collins.
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Lovely evening for a walk I must say
Did I miss anything :rollin
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Just that the grandson of Maurice is a Tiger, WP ;).
27. Freo - Darcy Tucker.
28. WC - Luke Partington
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19. Haw - Ryan Burton
So the Hawks have taken the risk. When you've won 3 flags on the trot you can.
Yep
Just that the grandson of Maurice is a Tiger, WP ;).
:lol Reckon that was given once Emma Quayle said we would
Always back Emma's selections in
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How well Carlton go. Promising young list.
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29. Ess - Alex Morgan
30. Ess - Mason Redman
Harley Balic and Ryan Clarke still available of those expected to go early.
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31. North - Ryan Clarke
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Lovely evening for a walk I must say
Did I miss anything :rollin
You missed me putting a plastic bag on my head as it was more exciting.
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Next up is the 'greatest young list' ::)
32. Coll - Brayden Sier
Can someone get some decent audio there?!
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Lovely evening for a walk I must say
Did I miss anything :rollin
You missed me putting a plastic bag on my head as it was more exciting.
This whole format is terrible, coverage boring and the talking heads as interested as me :snidegrin
Anyways
32 - Coll - Brayden Sier
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33. North - Mitch Hibberd
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Lovely evening for a walk I must say
Did I miss anything :rollin
You missed me putting a plastic bag on my head as it was more exciting.
Seeing Brad Scott doing that would be better, or Buckley.
That said there are some sliders so we might pick up a good one at 51
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34. GC - Joshua Schoefeld
35. WB - Marcus Adams
Still no Harley Balic.
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36. WC - Tom Cole
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We won't have much left I wouldn't think by the time it gets to us. Gee, really goes to show the massive gap between picks doesn't it.
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Seems the clubs rate Mathieson about as highly as I do....
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West Coast just picked Tom Cole with our 2nd Round Pick. Harley Balic also still available!
Yarran better deliver!
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37. Port - Riley Bonner
38. Freo - Harley Balic
Mathieson left of the early picks in phantom picks.
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Balic gone
B. Crocker, Glass-McCasker & Hardwick all still there....
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Seems the clubs rate Mathieson about as highly as I do....
and me. Was never going in the 1st Rd
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He'd probably be a steal now... :shh
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He's gone
39. Bris - Rhys Mathieson
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Fitzbane just grabbed him.
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40. St K - Brandon White
Dees have put in a bid for GWS's Flynn.
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41. GWS - Matthew Flynn
42. Melb - Mitchell King
Our next pick is pushed back to 49.
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See now we are pushed out again to 49, so this is poo.
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North calling for extra time because the past 2 hours wasn't long enough lol.
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North bid on Brisbane's academy player Corey Wagner. The Lions didn't match it.
43. North - Corey Wagner
We were interested in him as a later pick.
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Lucky Brisbane didn't match that bid or we would be pick 50.
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44. Haw - Blake Hardwick
There goes Dimma mark II.
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Dimma Jr. gone
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Hardwick gone. Ok the gap now between our pis is is just ridiculous, we have really missed out.
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45. Port - Aidyn Johnson
Lucky Brisbane didn't match that bid or we would be pick 50.
Lions had/have pick 47 which they would've used. So it wouldn't have made a difference.
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Johnson gone and who is left???
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:sleep
Are we there yet ;D
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46. Melb - Liam Hulett
2 to go before ours.
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Surely one of Crocker or Glass-MCCasker.....c'mon Hackson nail a late pick for once......
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47. Bris - Sam Skinner
One to go then it's us.
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48. WB - Bailey Williams
Now it's our turn.
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Wowee
Where next
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Well I reckon we really blew it this year just for the sake of getting Yarran. While I am happy with Yarran we really didn't leave ourelves much here for what we got. I mean the Hawks did better than us across the board. So did the Crows, Dockers and Dogs...
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Brett Anderson said we were interested in Williams.
We've put a bid on St Kilda's F/S Rice.
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Hmm we've put in a bid for Bailey Rice
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49. St Kilda - Bailey Rice (F/S)
Now it;s our turn at 50.
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St Kilda have matched our bid
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Yeah as expected, we are just being dicks.
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SEN saying we may go for a state league player.
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Porter or a Shane Yarran
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Come on, Fine Eyes.
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50. Rich - Oleg Markov
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50 - RIch - Oleg Mrakov
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Lmao. Phil.
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Markov, who the stuff is that?
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Oh well...on the brightside....less bitching from Claw.....
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Markov, who the stuff is that?
A Claw special. :shh
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51. Sydney - Tyrone Leonardis
52. GC - Mackenzie Willis
Essendon bid on Silvagni jnr for the laughs.
53. Carl - Jack Silvagni (F/S)
54. Ess - Mitch Brown
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The same claw that said Rance is poo and still does :help :help
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SOSOS to the Scum where he belongs...
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55. Carl - Pass
Well that discussion was worth it ::)
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Okay so pass selections don't count as a pick this year.
55. Freo - Samuel Collins
56. Sydney - Kurt Mutimer
Our next pick is 77 but Brett Anderson reckons there's only a dozen live picks left.
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57. Coll - Tom Phillips
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Cats first pick after the Dangerfield, Henderson, Selwood .. trades.
58. Geel - Ryan Gardner
GWS passed which kills a number of their picks.
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Swans pass as well.
Our third pick is now 71.
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60. North - Declan Mountford
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61. Freo - Shane Yarran.
So Yarran's cousin is gone. Jumped in front of us,
Down to Crocker or Porter?
62. WC - Matthew Allen
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Ross looks miserable. Bloke next to him must be eating all his snacks.
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Damn....thought we could perhaps rookie Yarran...
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Hawthorn pass.
63. Coll - Rupert Wills
Our next pick is now 70.
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I just went outside to watch the grass grow, it was stuffing amazing compared to this.
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Suns pass.
64. Ess - Yestin Eades
65. Coll - Ben Crocker
Another of ours gone.
Picks now 69 & 75 btw.
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Pies pass.
66. Geel - Sam Menegola
One to go unless Port pass.
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Port pass so we're up next.
Porter is the word.
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Nup.
67. Rich - Nathan Broad.
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Looks the best out of our other two picks.. :whistle
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North pass.
Wc pass.
Two to go before our last pick (currently 70).
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68. Ess - Michael Hartley
One to go.
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69. Geel - Wylie Buzza
We're up next.
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We've passed. So that's us done.
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Pass
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Steal!
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70. Geel - Matthew Hayball
And that's all folks. National Draft is over.
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Markov, who the stuff is that?
A kid who should have been drafted last year and was a monty to be picked this year. A super athlete with great pace ndurasnce and good skills. He is one pick i am pleased about.
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How many rookie spots do we have now? I'd be looking at Glass-McCasker, Darcy Cameron, Harper, Shane Nelson, Hartley, Adcock & O'Brien.
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How many rookie spots do we have now? I'd be looking at Glass-McCasker, Darcy Cameron, Harper, Shane Nelson, Hartley, Adcock & O'Brien.
FJ said 3.
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Ok...well three of them...ruck, kpd, mid....
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Wow!
I hope Yarran has a good year.
Looks like we will be seeing a lot of the same as this year.
Rioli is a couple of years off at best by the sounds of it and I couldn't even be bothered watching the entire 8 minutes of highlights of the kid with the moe as I got bored halfway through it.
IMO picks in the early to mid first round should never be 2or 3 years off unless you are a ruckman.
Got subdued by a couple of good games late and the surname.
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They said the same about Menadue and he was playing by round 7.....so who knows....
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I guess we will never know but i wonder if Curnow slid 1 more spot whether we would have drafted him in stead of Krakouer..... Rioli I mean.
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They said the same about Menadue and he was playing by round 7.....so who knows....
I like the kid and I know he was on the field but I'm not sure he contributed much. And that's being nice.
At least another year or 2 away from maybe being of any help taking us forward. But at pick 30 odd I can wear that.
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I guess we will never know but i wonder if Curnow slid 1 more spot whether we would have drafted him in stead of Krakouer..... Rioli I mean.
:lol
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I just went outside to watch the grass grow, it was stuffing amazing compared to this.
Why didn't you stay out there then?
They said the same about Menadue and he was playing by round 7.....so who knows....
Yeah and got 3 touches over 2 games (or something)
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They said the same about Menadue and he was playing by round 7.....so who knows....
Yeah and got 3 touches over 2 games (or something)
Was either subbed in or out in every match....didn't look that out of place considering they said he'd take 3-4 years when they drafted him.... and take out his zero stat one quarter match against Fremantle and that "or something" was actually 29 possessions 1 goal 1 and 10 tackles over 4 matches....was also ignored a few times when he was in good positions...
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Yeah nah apart from that game where admittedly he played something like half a quarter he did reasonably well for a dude I didn't think would get a game so early.
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Dimma's explanation for why we bidded on academy players ....
RICHMOND tested the waters before landing their big catch at the AFL draft.
... immediately before coach Damien Hardwick announced the Rioli name was returning to Punt Rd after nearly two decades, Richmond tried out the new live bid system.
The Tigers recruited Rioli only after unsuccessful bids for academy players Matthew Kennedy at No.13 and Eric Hipwood at 14. GWS predictably matched Richmond’s bid to secure Kennedy and Brisbane did the same to ensure they took Hipwood.
The live bids were introduced in an effort to ensure fair value for academy and father-son draft nominations.
“If there was a player who we liked at that pick, we were always going to ... try and pick that player, even though the reality was that we weren’t going to get him,” coach Damien Hardwick said of the two unsuccessful draft picks.
“From our point of view, for the integrity of the competition, we thought it was the right thing to do.
“We were sort of hoping one might slip through, (but) it wasn’t the case.
“It (live bidding) adds something to the competition ... provided it is done in the right way.”
Then came the straightforward selection that brought Rioli to the Tigers.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-daniel-rioli-brings-family-name-x-factor-back-to-richmond/story-e6frf3e3-1227622395230
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pretty stupid when you dont have another pick till 51
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pretty stupid when you dont have another pick till 51
Why? You put a bid in for the best available players at your pick. So they obviously thought the 2 GWS academy boys were better than Rioli. What's so stupid about that?
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a multitude of things
none more so worrying that hipwood is 200cm and not a ruckman
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Makes sense to me. Force clubs to use their picks to bump up your own...
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Brett Anderson @BrettAndersonIF twitter:
"Some perspective for those who think the #AFLDraft went too long...The NFL Draft (256 picks) went for 15hrs 5mins last year over three days."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
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AFL draft verdict: How did your club fare?
AFL.com.au
26 November 2015
RICHMOND
Selections before academy and father/son bidding: 12, 51, 78, 84
Selections after bidding: 15, 50, 67
Who they picked: Daniel Rioli, Oleg Markov, Nathan Broad
Callum Twomey's verdict:
Francis Jackson and his recruiting team might have won themselves a reputation as 'bidders' after draft night. The Tigers placed bids on Matthew Kennedy at No.13 and Eric Hipwood at No.14, and also placed a bid on father-son selection Bailey Rice at No.49. All were unsuccessful, but at least they called the player's name where they ranked them and put their hand up when the players warranted bids (if not earlier). Daniel Rioli filled the Tigers' search for a small forward at their first choice – No.15 overall – after Callum Ah Chee had already been taken by the Suns. The Tigers then grabbed Oleg Markov and added another mature body to their midfield by selecting Nathan Broad, who they will be hoping can offer some impact at AFL level straight away.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-24/afl-draft-verdict-how-did-your-club-fare
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RICHMOND tested the waters before landing their big catch at the AFL draft.
So Rioli was our big fish?
pretty stupid when you dont have another pick till 51
Why? You put a bid in for the best available players at your pick. So they obviously thought the 2 GWS academy boys were better than Rioli. What's so stupid about that?
Because Richmond did it.
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Makes sense to me. Force clubs to use their picks to bump up your own...
if we had pick 20 or 30 or 40 then yes
given we had pick 51 it seemingly didn't make much difference
outside of massaging dimmas policeman egotistical faults
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Are you happy with Markov? Because we might not have landed him if we didn't.
GWS could of just snapped up their academy player and someone like Markov for 2 picks in the thirties. So even if it wasn't to actually try and get the player at least we kept them honest. FFS GWS have had enough concessions but you just want them to get more hand outs and get even more young talent into their team? :banghead
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WEST Coast draftee Tom Cole is hoping for some success with his new club after a childhood full of disappointment as a Richmond supporter in Victoria.
Cole was drafted by the Eagles with pick No.36 in the 2015 NAB AFL Draft from the Bendigo Pioneers.
The 18-year-old said he was rapt to join West Coast after supporting a team that hadn't tasted much success in his lifetime.
"I followed the Tigers," Cole said.
"It was a bit of a rough sort of childhood."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-12-02/new-eagle-tom-cole-no-longer-a-tormented-tiger