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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 09, 2015, 10:51:03 PM
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JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
June 10, 2015
Collingwood and Richmond are eyeing the exchange period ready to add some extra midfield-forward class that would add the lick of cream to their cakes.
Which club is the most advanced, or appealing destination? One veteran list expert said Collingwood, as it had “smartly traded out” players in recent years, building a strong base of young talent.
This year, Collingwood is into Greater Western Sydney prime mover Adam Treloar on a deal reportedly worth up to $750,000 a year, and up-and-down Lion James Aish.
The Tigers would love Giant Dylan Shiel or one of Gold Coast pair Brandon Matera and Dion Prestia.
Swan Daniel Hannebery, who is a top-three Brownlow contender and a free agent next year, could also be sought, along with tough nut Luke Parker. Sydney’s salary cap is “Buddy” tight.
The next three weeks, when the clubs have their byes, is when the contract talks usually heat up.
Richmond list guru Blair Hartley said last November the Tigers would “hopefully have the space to attack the (player) market in the next two or three years”.
He said the club had been “managing the cap to make sure you are in a position to be involved when you need to be, like everybody else”.
Surely, they would ask the question of Dangerfield, too.
Dangerfield’s manager, Paul Connors, said the Crows’ superstar was honouring his commitment to Adelaide.
“It’s not like contract talks are off,” Connors said on Triple M.
“He is playing like a committed person for the Adelaide footy club ... and he will make up his own mind in the second half of the year.”
But in this year’s free agency period, the Cats have a $1.3 million bombshell move in store to wrench their premiership window back open.
If Adelaide superstar Patrick Dangerfield (estimated $800,000) and Carlton’s Lachie Henderson ($500,000) setup camp down the Geelong coast, as many industry insiders increasingly expect, the Cats will pull off a free agency heist that might be bigger than the “Buddy” Franklin deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-targets-patrick-dangerfield-and-lachie-henderson-with-bombshell-13m-lure/story-fnp04d70-1227390329237
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Hannebery
(http://i59.tinypic.com/e80804.jpg)
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All would be good for us.
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I'll believe it when I see it
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Reckon Morris, Hampson, Dea, Newman, Grigg, Thomas, Pettard, Foley and an exchange of 4th round picks should be enough to get them all across....
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Hannebery as FA, but the rest need to be traded for and won't come cheap!
Good to hear we're apparently targeting guns. No point paying Danger $1million+/year if you could snag one of these guys cheaper.
I suppose if Rance quits we'll have cash up our sleeves...
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If Rance quits we should be into Carlisle and McKenzie....hell, we should be into Carlisle even if Rance stays....
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This is true...
Maybe Henderson also?
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Hannebery as FA, but the rest need to be traded for and won't come cheap!
Good to hear we're apparently targeting guns. No point paying Danger $1million+/year if you could snag one of these guys cheaper.
I suppose if Rance quits we'll have cash up our sleeves...
If Rance quits it will free up stuff all cash!
The whole reason he's an Unrestricted free agent is because he's not one of out top ten highest paid.
Outside of Cotch, Lids, Jack and Martin I'd love to know who the other 6 are if Rance doesn't make it!!
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Hannebery as FA, but the rest need to be traded for and won't come cheap!
Good to hear we're apparently targeting guns. No point paying Danger $1million+/year if you could snag one of these guys cheaper.
I suppose if Rance quits we'll have cash up our sleeves...
If Rance quits it we free up stuff all cash!
The whole reason he's an Unrestricted free agent is because he's not one of out top ten highest paid.
Outside of Cotch, Lids, Jack and Martin I'd love to know who the other 6 are is Rance doesn't make it!!
Mr newman is your man. Worth every penny
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Hannebery as FA, but the rest need to be traded for and won't come cheap!
Good to hear we're apparently targeting guns. No point paying Danger $1million+/year if you could snag one of these guys cheaper.
I suppose if Rance quits we'll have cash up our sleeves...
If Rance quits it will free up stuff all cash!
The whole reason he's an Unrestricted free agent is because he's not one of out top ten highest paid.
Outside of Cotch, Lids, Jack and Martin I'd love to know who the other 6 are if Rance doesn't make it!!
That's why I said 'some' not a lot.
Probably free up $250-350k tops. Would help to snag a FA.
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Hannebery as FA, but the rest need to be traded for and won't come cheap!
Good to hear we're apparently targeting guns. No point paying Danger $1million+/year if you could snag one of these guys cheaper.
I suppose if Rance quits we'll have cash up our sleeves...
If Rance quits it will free up stuff all cash!
The whole reason he's an Unrestricted free agent is because he's not one of out top ten highest paid.
Outside of Cotch, Lids, Jack and Martin I'd love to know who the other 6 are if Rance doesn't make it!!
That's why I said 'some' not a lot.
Probably free up $250-350k tops. Would help to snag a FA.
Lmao, no you didn't, you exact quote was "I suppose if Rance Leaves we'll have Cash up our sleeves"
I take this as you mean it will free up more cash in the salary cap outside of the guys we delist and those who retire. The botom line is if Rance leaves it will make FA difference as he's not on big money and someone will most likely be retained to fill his position anyway......
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I'll believe it when I see it
That's what my girlfriend says
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Rance going (hope like hell he stays) would free up a lot of cash as we'd be looking at these guys coming across with Rance's new offer in calculations & should he not accept it we then have that to add to the warchest. i agree with above tho, we should be after Carlisle wheather Rance stays or goes.
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Rance going (hope like hell he stays) would free up a lot of cash as we'd be looking at these guys coming across with Rance's new offer in calculations & should he not accept it we then have that to add to the warchest. i agree with above tho, we should be after Carlisle wheather Rance stays or goes.
Can you draw a diagram for that flog Loui Tufga? He doesn't get it.
If Rance is making $300k and quits we have $300k extra to aim at a target player, because no. 18 has gone from costing us $300k to $0.00 and can be replaced with anybody and anything.
And yes, then there's the extra $300-500k that RFC is definitely willing to pay Rance.
But hey $600-800k total is FA according to some... I mean seriously that kind of money could land us basically any of the aforementioned players.
Then you take out dead weights like Newman, Foley, Knights etc and I'm sure there's another $600k+ freed up.
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Rance going (hope like hell he stays) would free up a lot of cash as we'd be looking at these guys coming across with Rance's new offer in calculations & should he not accept it we then have that to add to the warchest. i agree with above tho, we should be after Carlisle wheather Rance stays or goes.
Can you draw a diagram for that flog Loui Tufga? He doesn't get it.
If Rance is making $300k and quits we have $300k extra to aim at a target player, because no. 18 has gone from costing us $300k to $0.00 and can be replaced with anybody and anything.
And yes, then there's the extra $300-500k that RFC is definitely willing to pay Rance.
But hey $600-800k total is FA according to some... I mean seriously that kind of money could land us basically any of the aforementioned players.
Then you take out dead weights like Newman, Foley, Knights etc and I'm sure there's another $600k+ freed up.
No need to get personal!
You made an effort to point out if Rance leaves it will free up 300k but what about the others that will either be delisted or retire?
Your point would have been better served by saying if Rance leaves, Newman and Foley retire and we delist Dea, Pettard, Knights and Arnott that should free up some cash to grab one of these free agents. But you were trying to make a specific point that if Rance leaves then there would be spare money to score a free agent. I'd agree if he was on 600k a year but he's not so his departure will be no more significant in scoring a free agent than if any of the above mentioned players were to leave!
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Id guess that at this point in time there would be substantially more than $300k of next year's salary cap being allocated for rance, quite possibly the wages of knights and foley
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Rance going (hope like hell he stays) would free up a lot of cash as we'd be looking at these guys coming across with Rance's new offer in calculations & should he not accept it we then have that to add to the warchest. i agree with above tho, we should be after Carlisle wheather Rance stays or goes.
Can you draw a diagram for that flog Loui Tufga? He doesn't get it.
If Rance is making $300k and quits we have $300k extra to aim at a target player, because no. 18 has gone from costing us $300k to $0.00 and can be replaced with anybody and anything.
And yes, then there's the extra $300-500k that RFC is definitely willing to pay Rance.
But hey $600-800k total is FA according to some... I mean seriously that kind of money could land us basically any of the aforementioned players.
Then you take out dead weights like Newman, Foley, Knights etc and I'm sure there's another $600k+ freed up.
it's pretty self explanatory ;)
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Rance going (hope like hell he stays) would free up a lot of cash as we'd be looking at these guys coming across with Rance's new offer in calculations & should he not accept it we then have that to add to the warchest. i agree with above tho, we should be after Carlisle wheather Rance stays or goes.
Can you draw a diagram for that flog Loui Tufga? He doesn't get it.
If Rance is making $300k and quits we have $300k extra to aim at a target player, because no. 18 has gone from costing us $300k to $0.00 and can be replaced with anybody and anything.
And yes, then there's the extra $300-500k that RFC is definitely willing to pay Rance.
But hey $600-800k total is FA according to some... I mean seriously that kind of money could land us basically any of the aforementioned players.
Then you take out dead weights like Newman, Foley, Knights etc and I'm sure there's another $600k+ freed up.
No need to get personal!
You made an effort to point out if Rance leaves it will free up 300k but what about the others that will either be delisted or retire?
Your point would have been better served by saying if Rance leaves, Newman and Foley retire and we delist Dea, Pettard, Knights and Arnott that should free up some cash to grab one of these free agents. But you were trying to make a specific point that if Rance leaves then there would be spare money to score a free agent. I'd agree if he was on 600k a year but he's not so his departure will be no more significant in scoring a free agent than if any of the above mentioned players were to leave!
forget Rance's current contract, it's the current offer on the new deal to focus on here, say it's $550k-$650k for arguments sake, clearly we have this with other players we are chasing in mind on top of that & all under the cap amount we are prepared to pay for the coming seasons on these deals. if Foley/Knights/Newman were to be moved on for example this cover's the extra we are offering Rance over his current deal that ends this year with $$$ to spare
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Parker :pray
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one parker please
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Shiel is off the list
Re-signed for another 3 years with GSW
From Twitter
@FOXSportsNews: Midfielder Dylan Shiel signs a two-year contract extension with the @GWSGIANTS until at least the end of 2017 #AFL http://t.co/TOrPtpiwmi
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What a bloody surprise. Some facts here for everyone we haven't nailed an elite player since brown and that will continue this year
Out best bet is Carlisle and he won't come cheap dealing with those flogs
Dan H and Parker I have to laugh if anyone thinks those 2 are going anywhere.
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Dan Hannebery for me because he won't cost us any picks. Gun.
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one hannebery please
What a bloody surprise. Some facts here for everyone we haven't nailed an elite player since brown and that will continue this year
Out best bet is Carlisle and he won't come cheap dealing with those flogs
Dan H and Parker I have to laugh if anyone thinks those 2 are going anywhere.
we are due for some good luck :pray
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Shiel :-\
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Collingwood have a tight cap after throwing heaps at Greenwood and Taylor Adams.
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Collingwood have a tight cap after throwing heaps at Greenwood and Taylor Adams.
Please
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Enjoy playing in front of 5k every week Shiel.
Sleeps with light on and his hair gelled does Shiel, move on.
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We won't get poo
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Collingwood have a tight cap after throwing heaps at Greenwood and Taylor Adams.
apparently they are offering $700k to treloar so can't be that tight
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We won't get anyone of note, we don't pay what's needed , just hope we hold onto Rance but the longer it drags out the more I suspect he is on the move
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Collingwood have a tight cap after throwing heaps at Greenwood and Taylor Adams.
apparently they are offering $700k to treloar so can't be that tight
Jeez :-[
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Collingwood have a tight cap after throwing heaps at Greenwood and Taylor Adams.
apparently they are offering $700k to treloar so can't be that tight
Freed up by Beams going, otherwise they wouldn't be able to offer him poo
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From BF Carlton poster C4[2]Yo`DooR who is on the money more often than most:
Richmond very keen on Jake Kolodjashnij (Geelong).
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The big fish!! :clapping
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Surely a few on Sydney's list must be thinking about getting more money somewhere else? Hannabery and Parker are stars and would look fantastic in a Tigers jumper :thumbsup
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From BF Carlton poster C4[2]Yo`DooR who is on the money more often than most:
Richmond very keen on Jake Kolodjashnij (Geelong).
Is he any good? Havent seen him play so don't know what he has to offer.
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Dunno Ramps, just passing on the info. His twin brother went at pick 5 and he went at pick 41 but he's apparently rated highly down at Geelong and Matthew Scarlett reckons he'll be a gun.
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Having trouble getting a game in front of Lonergan and Taylor. Could be wrong and have his dimensions wrong but I always thought he was a fraction undersized to hold down the key defensive post. Not that it has ever stopped players like Gibson though, and if Scarlett rates him then I guess no issue. Could only rate him because he's a Geelong player though. I thought I read Brisbane or someone are keen on him too. If we're into him does that mean Rance is definitely gone?
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Not necessarily. Might mean Astbury gone...
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From BF Carlton poster C4[2]Yo`DooR who is on the money more often than most:
Richmond very keen on Jake Kolodjashnij (Geelong).
Is he any good? Havent seen him play so don't know what he has to offer.
Lesser known 193cm taller twin brother of higher profile Kade (who the Suns drafted at pick 5 in the 2013 National Draft). Jake went at pick 41. Recruited from Launceston.
Jake Kolodjashnij
DOB: 9-8-1995
Height: 193cm
Weight: 88kg
AFL games: 0
VFL games: 23 (16 in 2014; 7 so far in 2015)
VFL stats: http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=195046266&client=1-3020-111729-339770-20320251&ocompID=339770 (http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=195046266&client=1-3020-111729-339770-20320251&ocompID=339770)
Tall defender who has shown good athleticism and football smarts since taken with Geelong’s third selection in the 2013 NAB AFL Draft. Kolodjashnij reads the play well and comes off his opponent at the right times to win the ball in the air. An effective rebounding player who is a strong overhead mark and possesses neat foot skills, he produced encouraging performances in 16 VFL games last year and finished fourth in the Cats’ VFL best and fairest.
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/player-profile/jake-kolodjashnij
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Shrewd move if possible. Pick up Jake and then tempt his brother home with coin when he is out of contract with the lure of playing with his brother! :clapping
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Go get henderson from the scum. He can at least kick goals.
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What about Dangerfield?
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
He is not worth the coin, we already have a shedload of turnover specialists.
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
He is not worth the coin, we already have a shedload of turnover specialists.
Hilarious! He is a star of the game.
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
He is not worth the coin, we already have a shedload of turnover specialists.
Hilarious! He is a star of the game.
Agreed. He would make our midfield the best in the league.
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
who are the "pretty good mates"?
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Who are we after?
Motlop?
Carlisle?
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if for the same $$$ you would have to think motlop + hannebery is better than dangerfield alone....surely
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if for the same $$$ you would have to think motlop + hannebery is better than dangerfield alone....surely
Absolutely :thumbsup
Would add plenty more than one player.
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if for the same $$$ you would have to think motlop + hannebery is better than dangerfield alone....surely
Absolutely :thumbsup
Would add plenty more than one player.
+2
Hannebery on his own is arguably as good as Clangerfield anyway....
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:lol
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need to do something
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if for the same $$$ you would have to think motlop + hannebery is better than dangerfield alone....surely
Absolutely :thumbsup
Would add plenty more than one player.
+2
Hannebery on his own is arguably as good as Clangerfield anyway....
Hanneberry is a high quality midfielder and will lead by example
Whilst I admit that Motlop does not have much or a defensive side to his game, on the other hand he can break a game open and turn it. Currently only Dusty can do that for us.
I would be really keen on both, knowing we would have to give something up for them.
Team:
B: Chaplin, Rance, Grimes
HB: Vlastuin, Astbury, Houli
C: Martin, Cotchin, B.Ellis
HF: Delidio, Griffiths, Edwards
F: Motlop, Reiwoldt, McDonough
R: Maric, Miles, Hanneberry
I: C.Ellis, McBean, Lennon
S: Menadue
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
Pretty good mates
Chris Knights and that's it
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
Pretty good mates
Chris Knights and that's it
Maybe Danger will sign on in an off field role.. perhaps Rehab Co ordination :whistle
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
Pretty good mates
Chris Knights and that's it
Maybe Danger will sign on in an off field role.. perhaps Rehab Co ordination :whistle
put him in the spot between vickery and griffiths
i like morris but come on
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I'm tipping with GWS year starting to derail treloar will shoot off to the pies
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What about Dangerfield?
Heard a rumour last night that we are a massive chance for Dangerfield. Apparently he has some pretty good mates at Tigerland. :whistle :pray
Pretty good mates
Chris Knights and that's it
So Jackstar knows every Tiger player and everyone of their mates??
What a complete arrogant wanker you are.
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Tigers football department chief Dan Richardson said the Tigers would still have the ability to seek a free agent or off-contract star.
"We're still in a position to be able to acquire another player to help us improve," Richardson said.
Asked whether the Tigers had the capacity to lure Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield or Greater Western Sydney's Adam Treloar, Richardson replied on SEN: "Put it this way – we've got the space to accommodate a good player."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/alex-rance-signs-fouryear-deal-with-richmond-20150620-ghsyss
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Flog he is
Probably spend it on Trengrove or Jason winderlich
Sorry that was last year
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We must be due a star player by now? :pray
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Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
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Richmond can still poach a gun player despite signing Alex Rance on long-term deal
Glenn McFarlane
Herald-Sun
June 21, 2015
RICHMOND still has the salary cap space to chase a key player in this year’s free agency/trade period after on Saturday morning announcing it had finally locked away star defender Alex Rance for the next four seasons.
Tigers fans awoke to the news following Friday’s 20-point loss to West Coast that Rance had agreed to stay with the club until the end of the 2019 season.
After months of speculation surrounding the future of the 25-year-old All-Australian, including a belief he could walk away from the game, Richmond was able to secure his signature in the days leading up to the Eagles’ clash.
But Richmond general manager of football Dan Richardson said the club would still be active in the off-season to potentially lure a player from another club.
“I wouldn’t call it a war chest, as some people like to describe it, but I think like any club you are trying to ensure that you have enough space in your cap for continued improvement,” Richardson told SEN.
“We have been working hard to ensure there is enough cap space to allow for intrinsic improvement of our list and clearly Alex is a player in question who has improved significantly over the last couple of years, and therefore will be rewarded as such.
“But we are still in a strong position to be able to acquire another player to help us improve if somebody wants to come.
“We have got the space to accommodate a good player.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-can-still-poach-a-gun-player-despite-signing-alex-rance-on-long-term-deal/story-fndv8t7m-1227407486657
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Looks like we want to chase another experienced midfielder and/or a half-back rebounding defender, according to Dan Richardson on the AFL website.
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RICHMOND has the salary cap room to pursue an experienced midfielder at the end of the season despite signing defender Alex Rance to a four-year contract this week.
But the Tigers, who remain keen to bolster their midfield and possibly add an experienced half-back to their mix, will be mindful about ensuring their improving talent is also rewarded financially.
After aborted pursuits of rival midfielders including Melbourne's Jack Trengove and St Kilda's David Armitage last trade period, the Tigers are in a position to target another big name.
Football manager Dan Richardson confirmed on Saturday there was financial room to do so but emphasised the club was confident in the progression of its emerging talent as well.
"We've been clear over the last couple of years to continue [building] midfield depth, it's an on-going focus balanced with having another rebounding defender to complement the likes of Bachar Houli," Richardson told AFL.com.au.
"We've seen also the likes of Taylor Hunt spending some time there and he's shown some real promise for us.
"In terms of the midfield, we've seen Corey Ellis and Connor Menadue start to show that we think they're going to long-term players for us; Kamdyn McIntosh is another.
"We're developing most of what we need internally but in saying that, you always like to have good players."
Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar is still out of contract, as does Adelaide gun Patrick Dangerfield, who remains heavily linked to Geelong.
Tiger Jack Riewoldt is due to come out of contract at the end of next season but Richardson said he expected no issue with the forward re-signing.
But he did emphasise the importance of balance when it came to attracting new players and rewarding current ones.
"We've still got some salary cap room; maybe a little less with the improvement of a couple of players over the last bit of time," he said.
"When you try to keep some salary cap space clear, I think it's important for two reasons: you've got to reward players that deserve to be rewarded, and balance with bringing players in, generally speaking, when you've got to pay a little bit more to encourage them across.
"That's not to say money is the be-all and end-all with these decisions.
"We're halfway through a season and the trade period doesn't take place until October so how that plays out for us depends on what plays out with other clubs as well.
"You closely monitor that and we'll continue to do so."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-21/tigers-still-hunting-talent-after-rance-resigns
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Hunt isn't skilful enough for the back 6
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Looks like we want to chase another experienced midfielder and/or a half-back rebounding defender, according to Dan Richardson on the AFL website.
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RICHMOND has the salary cap room to pursue an experienced midfielder at the end of the season despite signing defender Alex Rance to a four-year contract this week.
But the Tigers, who remain keen to bolster their midfield and possibly add an experienced half-back to their mix, will be mindful about ensuring their improving talent is also rewarded financially.
After aborted pursuits of rival midfielders including Melbourne's Jack Trengove and St Kilda's David Armitage last trade period, the Tigers are in a position to target another big name.
Football manager Dan Richardson confirmed on Saturday there was financial room to do so but emphasised the club was confident in the progression of its emerging talent as well.
"We've been clear over the last couple of years to continue [building] midfield depth, it's an on-going focus balanced with having another rebounding defender to complement the likes of Bachar Houli," Richardson told AFL.com.au.
"We've seen also the likes of Taylor Hunt spending some time there and he's shown some real promise for us.
"In terms of the midfield, we've seen Corey Ellis and Connor Menadue start to show that we think they're going to long-term players for us; Kamdyn McIntosh is another.
"We're developing most of what we need internally but in saying that, you always like to have good players."
Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar is still out of contract, as does Adelaide gun Patrick Dangerfield, who remains heavily linked to Geelong.
Tiger Jack Riewoldt is due to come out of contract at the end of next season but Richardson said he expected no issue with the forward re-signing.
But he did emphasise the importance of balance when it came to attracting new players and rewarding current ones.
"We've still got some salary cap room; maybe a little less with the improvement of a couple of players over the last bit of time," he said.
"When you try to keep some salary cap space clear, I think it's important for two reasons: you've got to reward players that deserve to be rewarded, and balance with bringing players in, generally speaking, when you've got to pay a little bit more to encourage them across.
"That's not to say money is the be-all and end-all with these decisions.
"We're halfway through a season and the trade period doesn't take place until October so how that plays out for us depends on what plays out with other clubs as well.
"You closely monitor that and we'll continue to do so."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-21/tigers-still-hunting-talent-after-rance-resigns
You don't pay big money on HBF's. As he said you have to pay overs to get them across, spending $600k plus on a FBF is ridiculas.
Draft mids and let them develop across HB. IE Vlastuin
Spend money on KPP or genuine mids.
Does anyone think we need a HBF? We could play C. Ellis across HB for a few years and he is a beautiful kick.
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Damian Barrett tonight is claiming Sydney has offered Hannebery a new six-year contract worth $4-5 million and he's, in principle, agreed to it.
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Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
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Yet more evidence we should forget about any premiership aspirations while Richardson, Hackson & Hartley remain at the club. Wow...just ...wow....
Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
Retaining the best players is the bare minimum a club in our position should be doing.
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Damian Barrett tonight is claiming Sydney has offered Hannebery a new six-year contract worth $4-5 million and he's, in principle, agreed to it.
Where do they find this sort of moolah :o
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Smart businessman running the club
750k ain't a lot of money. Il free up a mill now. Foley, Hamner, Newy and Knights. There's your franklin or Treloar.
No balls mr Hartley prefers the trengrove types
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Yet more evidence we should forget about any premiership aspirations while Richardson, Hackson & Hartley remain at the club. Wow...just ...wow....
Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
Retaining the best players is the bare minimum a club in our position should be doing.
Yep thank you and 100% on the money. Absolutely hopeless yeah come to us we are a big Melbourne club etc etc but then have a crack at trengrove
Dan is a flog I would like to see him show some balls and offer a massive contract for a Treloar type. My guess is he will settle for motlop, pay overs and he then becomes the new whipping boy
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Maybe we should cool our jets on this one until October, after all something might happen....
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Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
Retaining the best players is the bare minimum a club in our position should be doing.
Like how Hawthorn lost buddy? Geelong Ablett and Christensen? Sydney Malceski and Mumford? Collingwood Beams? Adelaide likely Dangerfield? St Kilda Goddard? Looks to me if we are one pf the only teams to retain our players. Dont just wipe that away like a grain of salt - its a far bigger deal than you make it out.
And giving 6 year contracts on multimillion dollars is absolute stupidity if you ask me. Look at the NBA and NFL if you want examples of where they have failed (Inner turmoil with Scottie Pippen amd MJ as their deals by 3rd year were outdated deapite being two of the top 5 players... or allan houston. Knicks signed him to biggest contract ever and he flops with injuries. All unexpected).
I for one think Dan has nothing to answer for at this stage.
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Haha we won't be getting anything with 750k.
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Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
Retaining the best players is the bare minimum a club in our position should be doing.
Like how Hawthorn lost buddy? Geelong Ablett and Christensen? Sydney Malceski and Mumford? Collingwood Beams? Adelaide likely Dangerfield? St Kilda Goddard? Looks to me if we are one pf the only teams to retain our players. Dont just wipe that away like a grain of salt - its a far bigger deal than you make it out.
And giving 6 year contracts on multimillion dollars is absolute stupidity if you ask me. Look at the NBA and NFL if you want examples of where they have failed (Inner turmoil with Scottie Pippen amd MJ as their deals by 3rd year were outdated deapite being two of the top 5 players... or allan houston. Knicks signed him to biggest contract ever and he flops with injuries. All unexpected).
I for one think Dan has nothing to answer for at this stage.
Hawthorn - had already won a flag -2 if you count 2008- then added Lake, McEvoy & Frawley (not to mention Burgoyne, Hale & Gunston since 2008). Sydney - won a flag, then got Franklin & Tippett, Malceski's on his last legs, didn't even try to keep Mumford; though admittedly they also had COLA . Geelong - had just won their 3rd flag in 5 seasons when Ablett left for a new expansion side that had massive concessions and money to burn. All those sides have more bonafide stars than we have. St. Kilda - already had 2 GF appearances(and a replay), premiership window was closed, rebuilding, years away from another premiership tilt when Goddard walked.... Adelaide - well how about you wait until that's actually confirmed before you use it as an example? (Ironic that one the other teams you used as an example is his most likely destination if he does leave) Besides - Dangerfield's a FA, only Rance has been a FA for us , the other stars we've re-signed so far haven't been. Riewoldt will be next year.
Not sure what that Seppo sport has to do with the price of fish either....do they even have a salary cap over there...or limits on free agency? Totally irrelevant to the AFL.
Unless they go against form and what Richardson just indicated and pull something out of their arse come the silly season, as it stands right now, Richardson, Hartley & Hackson are all incompetent boobs and need to stuff off. Another HBF a priority - stuff me drunk.....it's like Wallace, Miller & Cameron never left....
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St. Kilda - already had 2 GF appearances(and a replay), premiership window was closed, rebuilding, years away from another premiership tilt when Goddard walked....
Goddard didn't even leave on his own accord. St Kilda wanted him moved on to speed up the rebuild
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As far as trades go, How about.
Tomlinson kpp. GWS. Can play both in defense and forward and play both roles really well imo. Certainly meets a need and gives us great cover fwd and back.
Redden ruck P/A. wasnt long ago he was keeping Lobbe out of ports team and really looking the goods. With the arrival of ryder there may be an opportunity.
Jacob Townsend 187cm 89kg inside mid GWS. Imo this bloke is as hard as nails. a tackling machine who makes his tackles count. would make a great run with mid and only needs to find a bit more ball to become a decent big inside ball winner.
Some smokies in the nd.
Oleg Markov 187cm 78kg outside super quick and athletic mid/hf.I dont normally focus too much on really skinny kids, but I wanted us to take him big time last yr .I certainly would not hesitate to take him this yr. Just needs more size and we will have our line breaking mid. He has done well in reserves and u18s. We could have rookied him last yr but i think we would be looking at maybe second round this yr at least.
Mitchell Hibberd 191cm 87kg - running defender could play mid . I love his size. A tassie lad from my old patch Clarence. He has had heaps of injury but knows how to find the ball. Trouble is he is now starting to make waves.
Davin Ferreira 178cm we are looking for sml forwards arent we. Made his senior debut for Norwood and blitzed it. He is quick and skillful, defends well and has a bit of x factor about him.Worth keeping an eye on.
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Mitchell Hibberd 191cm 87kg - running defender could play mid . I love his size. A tassie lad from my old patch Clarence. He has had heaps of injury but knows how to find the ball. Trouble is he is now starting to make waves.
Related to Michael Hibberd?
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St. Kilda - already had 2 GF appearances(and a replay), premiership window was closed, rebuilding, years away from another premiership tilt when Goddard walked....
Goddard didn't even leave on his own accord. St Kilda wanted him moved on to speed up the rebuild
Don't think he was that keen on playing under Scott Watters either.
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Mitchell Hibberd 191cm 87kg - running defender could play mid . I love his size. A tassie lad from my old patch Clarence. He has had heaps of injury but knows how to find the ball. Trouble is he is now starting to make waves.
Related to Michael Hibberd?
dont think so.
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Barrett last night also said Swan Lewis Jetta has attracted interest from other clubs.
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Motlop and Jetta are the type of player we lack - pace, skills, breaks the lines, kicks goals at ground level & defensively can chase and put pressure on opposition defenders with the ball at ground level.
It'll be interesting if the removal of the COLA will now forceably squeeze a decent Swan out of Sydney. They don't let go of too many good footballers.
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Never liked that appointment of Dan Richardson a former player agent in his role hasn'timpressed me at all.Neil Balme was our man and he was never contracted to the cats.
Yea done a terrible job re signing every one of our stars off contract ::) get a clue , he s one of the best in the business , :clapping
Retaining the best players is the bare minimum a club in our position should be doing.
Like how Hawthorn lost buddy? Geelong Ablett and Christensen? Sydney Malceski and Mumford? Collingwood Beams? Adelaide likely Dangerfield? St Kilda Goddard? Looks to me if we are one pf the only teams to retain our players. Dont just wipe that away like a grain of salt - its a far bigger deal than you make it out.
And giving 6 year contracts on multimillion dollars is absolute stupidity if you ask me. Look at the NBA and NFL if you want examples of where they have failed (Inner turmoil with Scottie Pippen amd MJ as their deals by 3rd year were outdated deapite being two of the top 5 players... or allan houston. Knicks signed him to biggest contract ever and he flops with injuries. All unexpected).
I for one think Dan has nothing to answer for at this stage.
Hawthorn - had already won a flag -2 if you count 2008- then added Lake, McEvoy & Frawley (not to mention Burgoyne, Hale & Gunston since 2008). Sydney - won a flag, then got Franklin & Tippett, Malceski's on his last legs, didn't even try to keep Mumford; though admittedly they also had COLA . Geelong - had just won their 3rd flag in 5 seasons when Ablett left for a new expansion side that had massive concessions and money to burn. All those sides have more bonafide stars than we have. St. Kilda - already had 2 GF appearances(and a replay), premiership window was closed, rebuilding, years away from another premiership tilt when Goddard walked.... Adelaide - well how about you wait until that's actually confirmed before you use it as an example? (Ironic that one the other teams you used as an example is his most likely destination if he does leave) Besides - Dangerfield's a FA, only Rance has been a FA for us , the other stars we've re-signed so far haven't been. Riewoldt will be next year.
Not sure what that Seppo sport has to do with the price of fish either....do they even have a salary cap over there...or limits on free agency? Totally irrelevant to the AFL.
Unless they go against form and what Richardson just indicated and pull something out of their arse come the silly season, as it stands right now, Richardson, Hartley & Hackson are all incompetent boobs and need to stuff off. Another HBF a priority - stuff me drunk.....it's like Wallace, Miller & Cameron never left....
Bulldogs lose cooney. Dons lose Crameri. Dees lose Frawley. Most clybs have already lost a top 1-10 player. We have not. Theres a million reasons to leave and not many to stay. We dont have the depth to lose a player. My point was never why the left - its the fact that they did leave. And you made my point for me in your rebuttal. There are so many reasons to leave. Therefore saying retaining our players is a bare minimum i think is totally ignorant of the difficulties free agency creates for footy teams.
Also the comparison with NBA is very prevelant. If only because the AFLs cap us based on it (soft cap, luxury tax etc). Plus there are so many examples in global sports in regards to contracts that to view any one sport in isolation is fraught with danger. History repeats itself.
Also i totally agree that a HBF is what we need. A food quality one. Firstly it would give us more drive from our backline and also freeing up Houli. It would then allow Vlaustin to.move more into the midfield (oh hey, theres another inside midfielder). Its easy to look at players jn isolation. Harder, but more important to look at them within a team structure and how they will work with a greater list.
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Forget Hanneberry :whistle
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/dan-hannebery-set-to-extend-is-sydney-swans-contract-until-the-end-of-2018-season/story-fni5fan6-1227415126140
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I reckon leaking players to Richmond is a ploy. A team "leaks" their player wants to go to Richmond so then the player gets worried and signs on with their team. It's a worrying trend
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As far as trades go, How about.
Tomlinson kpp. GWS. Can play both in defense and forward and play both roles really well imo. Certainly meets a need and gives us great cover fwd and back.
Redden ruck P/A. wasnt long ago he was keeping Lobbe out of ports team and really looking the goods. With the arrival of ryder there may be an opportunity.
Jacob Townsend 187cm 89kg inside mid GWS. Imo this bloke is as hard as nails. a tackling machine who makes his tackles count. would make a great run with mid and only needs to find a bit more ball to become a decent big inside ball winner.
Some smokies in the nd.
Oleg Markov 187cm 78kg outside super quick and athletic mid/hf.I dont normally focus too much on really skinny kids, but I wanted us to take him big time last yr .I certainly would not hesitate to take him this yr. Just needs more size and we will have our line breaking mid. He has done well in reserves and u18s. We could have rookied him last yr but i think we would be looking at maybe second round this yr at least.
Mitchell Hibberd 191cm 87kg - running defender could play mid . I love his size. A tassie lad from my old patch Clarence. He has had heaps of injury but knows how to find the ball. Trouble is he is now starting to make waves.
Davin Ferreira 178cm we are looking for sml forwards arent we. Made his senior debut for Norwood and blitzed it. He is quick and skillful, defends well and has a bit of x factor about him.Worth keeping an eye on.
Yep...agree with all of them and i would look at Kieran Harper from North. 187cm 84kg fast HHF who is on the outer at the moment and needs a fresh start.
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Hannebery is off the available list ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/daniel-hannebery-signs-long-term-deal-to-stay-with-sydney-swans-avoid-free-agency/story-fndv8ujy-1227415843889
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The list is about done, bar Treloar.
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Scraps again for Richmond and our gun list managers -will end up with an Armfield rather than a Dangerfield....
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targeting gold coast players im hearing
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From Twitter
@sam_mcclure: Dan Hannebery turned down 6 year contract offers at North Melbourne and Richmond and 7 years at Melbourne to stay a Swan for life.
Oh well at least we'd tried, rather than doing nothing
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From Twitter
@sam_mcclure: Dan Hannebery turned down 6 year contract offers at North Melbourne and Richmond and 7 years at Melbourne to stay a Swan for life.
Oh well at least we'd tried, rather than doing nothing
We had a huge go at Fyfe last year as well. Cant say we are not having a go. I'm still confident we will get a couple of very good players.
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From Twitter
@sam_mcclure: Dan Hannebery turned down 6 year contract offers at North Melbourne and Richmond and 7 years at Melbourne to stay a Swan for life.
Oh well at least we'd tried, rather than doing nothing
Yes that's right but now we need to do that during trade and free agency!!!
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Parker pls
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Parker pls
true.
arguably in their best 3 players....
surely swans can't fit, buddy, tippett, hannebury, reid, etc all on large and long term contracts and pay parker his worth also.
should get in his ear..
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Parker pls
true.
arguably in their best 3 players....
surely swans can't fit, buddy, tippett, hannebury, reid, etc all on large and long term contracts and pay parker his worth also.
should get in his ear..
I would take Reid
Chaplin is horrible
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Is Parker even off contract?
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Is Parker even off contract?
He's not Dio. Contracted till 16 ::) Hun write poo don't they , all these players Contracted till 16/17.
We'd have to give up too much I would think given we honestly don't have depth in any given position.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-midfielder-luke-parker-signs-new-contract-tying-him-to-swans-to-2016/story-fni5fan7-1226697803647
Dion Prestia :whistle end of 16
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/prestia-signs-new-deal-with-gold-coast-20130603-2nmqn.html
Brandon Matera
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-31/sun-shines-on-brendan
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Carlisle please...... :shh
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really important trade period coming up. 2 players of high quality are needed. we are now a regular top 8 team need to take next step win a final and become a top 4 side.
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Is Parker even off contract?
He's not Dio. Contracted till 16 ::) Hun write poo don't they , all these players Contracted till 16/17.
We'd have to give up too much I would think given we honestly don't have depth in any given position.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-midfielder-luke-parker-signs-new-contract-tying-him-to-swans-to-2016/story-fni5fan7-1226697803647
Dion Prestia :whistle end of 16
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/prestia-signs-new-deal-with-gold-coast-20130603-2nmqn.html
Brandon Matera
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-31/sun-shines-on-brendan
Thanks ...knew the other two were still contracted but hearing them and a few other ares not happy up at GC and might ask to be traded.
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really important trade period coming up. 2 players of high quality are needed. we are now a regular top 8 team need to take next step win a final and become a top 4 side.
:clapping
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Is Parker even off contract?
He's not Dio. Contracted till 16 ::) Hun write poo don't they , all these players Contracted till 16/17.
We'd have to give up too much I would think given we honestly don't have depth in any given position.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-midfielder-luke-parker-signs-new-contract-tying-him-to-swans-to-2016/story-fni5fan7-1226697803647
Dion Prestia :whistle end of 16
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/prestia-signs-new-deal-with-gold-coast-20130603-2nmqn.html
Brandon Matera
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-31/sun-shines-on-brendan
Thanks ...knew the other two were still contracted but hearing them and a few other ares not happy up at GC and might ask to be traded.
I actually didn't know till I checked.
What players would be potential trade to a team like sydney or GWS?
Probably only ones we want to keep
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Big changes afoot at GCS.
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The list is about done, bar Treloar.
Get him
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Heard Davis the other day talking about sounded like Treloar has one foot in the Lexus centre already
We need to trump the pies and I would offer 700 easy. We need more quality and this bloke is just that. Out first pick plus 700k should do the trick
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Heard Davis the other day talking about sounded like Treloar has one foot in the Lexus centre already
We need to trump the pies and I would offer 700 easy. We need more quality and this bloke is just that. Out first pick plus 700k should do the trick
Id highly doubt GWS would settle for that. 700k sounds in the ball park (for me upper limit - but in tbe ball park with other suitors arpund). But look at the Dom Tyson trade. GWS received pick 2 and pick 20 for Tyson and pick 9.
Treloar is more established and higher rated than Tyspn so wpuld likely ask for more. I rate Treloar highly - but what else do we have that they need AND we would be willing to part with.
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Collingwood salary cap is a funny thing
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Collingwood salary cap is a funny thing
okay so take out cloke, pendlebury, swan/sidebottom maybe. who else is on 500k plus??
Beams and Shaw were they are gone. Plenty of room mate as do we.
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They paid a lot to get Taylor Adams too. At least $450-500. Likely the same amount for Greenwood too since he was knocking back $350-400+ at North.
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GWS have nothing in Reserve, There's nothing to see here :whistle :whistle
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/mollusc/media/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg.html)
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Oh crap
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Happy to take WHE off their hands if they're only going to play him in the twos.
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GWS have nothing in Reserve, There's nothing to see here :whistle :whistle
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/mollusc/media/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg.html)
Holy eff
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Collingwood salary cap is a funny thing
okay so take out cloke, pendlebury, swan/sidebottom maybe. who else is on 500k plus??
Beams and Shaw were they are gone. Plenty of room mate as do we.
Good news for the Chaplin and Grigg contract extensions :clapping
GWS have nothing in Reserve, There's nothing to see here :whistle :whistle
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/mollusc/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/mollusc/media/swans_zps4izgiat3.jpg.html)
Holy eff
I was hoping It was a PlayStation game
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Knowing our recruiting history we'll probably end up with Rose or Loneragan from the Swans, they did both score half the Swans goals :snidegrin
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This is their list according to Big footy thread
One of the few things on Big Footy with any form of legitemcy :lol
*Year is contracted to..
Senior List (46/48 Players)
1 Phil Davis - 2018
2 Curtly Hampton - 2016
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2015
4 Toby Greene - 2018
5 Dylan Shiel - 2017
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2016
7 Rhys Palmer - 2015
8 Callan Ward - 2016
9 Tom Scully - 2017
10 Devon Smith - 2017
11 Jed Lamb - 2016
12 Jonathan Patton - 2017
13 Paul Ahern - 2017
14 Tomas Bugg - 2015
15 Tim Golds - 2016
16 Nathan Wilson - 2015
17 Adam Treloar - 2015
18 Jeremy Cameron - 2020
19 Nick Haynes - 2017
20 Adam Tomlinson - 2017
21 Matthew Buntine - 2015
22 Josh Kelly - 2017
23 Heath Shaw - 2018
24 Joel Patfull - 2016
25 Cameron McCarthy - 2017
26 Jarrod Pickett - 2017
27 Andrew Phillips - 2017
28 Liam Sumner - 2016
29 Zach Williams - 2015
30 Lachie Plowman - 2016
31 Jacob Townsend - 2015
32 Ryan Griffen - 2018
33 Will Hoskin-Elliott - 2017
34 Caleb Marchbank - 2016
35 Aidan Corr - 2016
36 James Stewart - 2016
37 Rory Lobb - 2017
38 Jack Steele - 2016
39 Tim Mohr - 2016
40 Adam Kennedy - 2017
41 Shane Mumford - 2016
42 Patrick McKenna - 2016
43 Jake Barrett - 2016
44 Tom Downie - 2016
46 Dylan Addison - 2015
47 Jeremy Finlayson - 2016
Rookie List (1/9)
45 Sam Schulz - 2015
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/gws-players-contract-status.1008964/
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The Swans reserves are rubbish. Sydney University gave them a touch up a while ago.
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2015 NEAFL
TEAM P W L D FF % PTS >:(
UWS Giants 11 10 1 0 0 196.50 40
Aspley 11 10 1 0 0 149.12 40
NT Thunder 11 8 3 0 0 124.01 32
Sydney Swans 11 7 4 0 0 107.20 28
Sydney University 11 6 5 0 0 128.19 24
Redland 11 5 6 0 0 89.68 20
Ainslie 11 4 6 1 0 90.79 18
Gold Coast Suns 11 4 7 0 0 81.18 16
Southport 10 3 7 0 0 86.56 12
Eastlake 11 1 9 1 0 51.47 6
Brisbane Lions 11 1 10 0 0 61.56 4
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"The Herald Sun is reporting that Richmond are prepared to offer GWS young gun Adam Treloar a six year contract to lure him to the club."
Richmond Supporters Page on Facebook
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Allllllllah Akbar
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:clapping
Give lburger 12 years
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"The Herald Sun is reporting that Richmond are prepared to offer GWS young gun Adam Treloar a six year contract to lure him to the club."
Richmond Supporters Page on Facebook
where do we sign. North Hobart Ballarat please
Its us or the pies. Can dan deliver our first big scalp sicne nafe brown is the big question???
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Tackling, midfield ball magnet. Kicks goals too.
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Again no ruckman
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Hugo the Abominable Snowman: Oh, boy, a trelor! Just what I always wanted!
Hugo the Abominable Snowman: I will name him NewGrigg
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Again no ruckman
Trelor or shields (new Grigg)
Ruckman
New Chaplin
New small forward (preferable black)
Locked and loaded :pray
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Not sure what the FA status is on Treloar?
Guessing we would have to trade for him unless he's restricted. In which case, Conca and a six pack probably wouldn't be enough, we'll have to give something up for him?
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"The Herald Sun is reporting that Richmond are prepared to offer GWS young gun Adam Treloar a six year contract to lure him to the club."
Richmond Supporters Page on Facebook
They just mentioned that on Ch 7 news, although they said Richmond and Norf Melbourne have offered 6 year deals...
:lol :lol :lol
Norf.. :rollin
They have 15 players 28 and over, and still inconsistent and not a contender.. Time for a rebuild
Though I'm sure they can build a team around Brent the big man boomer.
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Not sure what the FA status is on Treloar?
Guessing we would have to trade for him unless he's restricted. In which case, Conca and a six pack probably wouldn't be enough, we'll have to give something up for him?
Treloar won't be a free agent at years not restricted or unrestricted.
He will be out of contract however, though he still remains at gws.
We will have to offer a trade to appease GWS to get him across
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Not sure what the FA status is on Treloar?
Guessing we would have to trade for him unless he's restricted. In which case, Conca and a six pack probably wouldn't be enough, we'll have to give something up for him?
Treloar won't be a free agent at years not restricted or unrestricted.
He will be out of contract however, though he still remains at gws.
We will have to offer a trade to appease GWS to get him across
My thoughts exactly. Like I said, we'll have to offer something fair for him. I'd have thought more than our first round pick. Conca, Lennon or even someone like K. Mcintosh?
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Keep McIntosh. Bloke is showing plenty.
Would offer 1st round pick + Conca/Lennon for sure.
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Grigg... $$$
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Would offer 1st round pick + Conca/Lennon for sure.
Exactly my thoughts too.
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That's all good and well but he may choose pies and GWS will have to deal or go to the draft with a front loaded threat
I hope Cameron's relationship with us helps with the exchange although pies have form in getting most who they want
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Apparently, Syd. Uni pumped the swans twos.
And gws 2s pumped GC
The Swans reserves are rubbish. Sydney University gave them a touch up a while ago.
Sydney rooted? Will be good seeing Richmond overtake them long term :pray
Gws list is stupid. We should take trelor , plus some other kid
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Should be targeting Leuenberger big time.....
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http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/steven-motlop-is-on-north-melbournes-radar-as-trade-target/story-fnp04d70-1227460657942
Bless the gypsys
Whipping boy coming up ladies and gents. Treloar favoured to sign with pies. :birthday
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Naturally....
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From a few days ago ...
One club who had flagged a need for players like Freo's Hayden Crozier is Richmond, whose chief executive Brendon Gale acknowledged in April that the Tigers were on the lookout for a creative small midfielder/forward.
"It's probably an area where we struggled - any ability to win the ball off the deck in the forward 50 has been a bit of an issue for us," Gale told Channel Nine's Footy Classified.
"Midfielders that can go forward (and) kick goals, or small forwards that can go (in the) midfield and offer depth and run are worth their weight in gold."
"I would have thought that's an area we'll focus on but there's people smarter than me that will make those decisions."
Apart from Jack Riewoldt's 41 goals, no Tiger has kicked more than 13 goals this season.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/fremantle-youngsters-tom-sheridan-and-hayden-crozier-keen-to-stay-in-perth-20150724-gik3v0.html#ixzz3hBtxN6un
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This may or may not help matters:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.html
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James Aish would be worth considering if available
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James Aish would be worth considering if available
Yep agree
Will be a very good player
Granted he's had a poor year but there is a lot to like
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Keep McIntosh. Bloke is showing plenty.
Would offer 1st round pick + Conca/Lennon for sure.
So Treloar is worth two first round picks? our first rounder and a player who was picked as a first rounder. We are not that desperate.
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Conca has shown he ain't that great so it's not really a first rounder anymore
If only Jackson did his job we would have plenty others to offer up but sadly we don't.
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Conca for Crozier is the whisper.
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Keep McIntosh. Bloke is showing plenty.
Would offer 1st round pick + Conca/Lennon for sure.
So Treloar is worth two first round picks? our first rounder and a player who was picked as a first rounder. We are not that desperate.
You must be high if you think Treloar isn't worth our first pick (currently pick 14) and Conca.
He absolutely is, 100%. To think otherwise is just laughable...
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Keep McIntosh. Bloke is showing plenty.
Would offer 1st round pick + Conca/Lennon for sure.
So Treloar is worth two first round picks? our first rounder and a player who was picked as a first rounder. We are not that desperate.
You must be high if you think Treloar isn't worth our first pick (currently pick 14) and Conca.
He absolutely is, 100%. To think otherwise is just laughable...
Exactly. If Richmond pulled that off it would be the greatest heist since Ocean's 11.
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Conca for Crozier is the whisper.
If this is the case then we are the big losers :banghead
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Conca for Crozier is the whisper.
who
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Bad deal
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At least Crozier can kick straight :thumbsup
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I've said a number of times this year we should go after Crozier.
He can possibly offer what Chris Knights has teased us with due to his injuries.
I've always viewed Hayden as fourth in the pecking order behind the likes of Ballantyne etc and now that Ballas has gone down Crozier has an opportunity to cement his spot in the top of the ladder Dockers.
If we were after him and I don't see why we wouldnt have been given his lack of opportunities he will cost us a lot more than what he would've if he Ballantyne hadn't of gone down.
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Be aggressive Richmond:
Out:
Via Trade:
Conca
B.Ellis
Griffiths
Vickery
Astbury
Next year's first round pick (won't effect this year's list)
Via delisting/retirements: Newman, Knights, Dea, Hunt, Gordon, Thomarse(R), Foley, Lloyd (Think Morris is still contracted)
In:
Motlop
Treloar/Prestia
Carlisle
Crozier
First Round pick (Dunkley/Crocker)
Kreuzer (FA)
Shane Nelson (WAFL)
Young Ruckman
Young KPD
Young KPF
2 Mids
Big Yank International rookie.
Also - Get more assistants,esp. a new forwards coach Get better players for the VFL list and a new VFL coach and assistants. See if we can snag one of the Geelong retirees to develop the kids.
Something like that anyway....
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Got to admit, never seen(or noticed) Crozier play - any good?
Treloar would be a good get, somehow doubt it will happen
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This thread is a waste of time.
The guys in charge haven't got the b@lls to get anyone of note.
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Got to admit, never seen(or noticed) Crozier play - any good?
Treloar would be a good get, somehow doubt it will happen
Crozier = bit player in a very good team, not a regular starter. Not worth it for Conca IMO. Plus he has one of the most punchable faces in football.
Adding Treloar would give us the best midfield in the comp, so yep, a pretty good get.
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Add Yarran to the list.
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Conca for Crozier is the whisper.
who
Tony. West Indian commentator.
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NyQXb9Vt9tL4M8GAZ37cWLm8I0fI4CWt0aKPq7vcM5FuFGWWkfUanyiLg69zWaaW32XmehQ3=w495-h297-nc)
]Be aggressive Richmond:
Out:
Via Trade:
Conca
B.Ellis
Griffiths
Vickery
Astbury
Next year's first round pick (won't effect this year's list)
Via delisting/retirements: Newman, Knights, Dea, Hunt, Gordon, Thomarse(R), Foley, Lloyd (Think Morris is still contracted)
In:
Motlop
Treloar/Prestia
Carlisle
Crozier
First Round pick (Dunkley/Crocker)
Kreuzer (FA)
Shane Nelson (WAFL)
Young Ruckman
Young KPD
Young KPF
2 Mids
Big Yank International rookie.
Also - Get more assistants,esp. a new forwards coach Get better players for the VFL list and a new VFL coach and assistants. See if we can snag one of the Geelong retirees to develop the kids.
Something like that anyway....
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Forgot to delist Petterd - whole plan is ruined.
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-interested-in-carltons-chris-yarran-20150730-gio7d0.html
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The full article says Treloar is still our highest priority despite the interest in Yarran.
Richmond Tigers interested in Carlton's Chris Yarran
Jake Niall, Michael Gleeson
The Age
July 31, 2015
Richmond has expressed interest in Carlton's talented flanker Chris Yarran, who is expected to figure in end-of-season trade discussions.
But while the resurgent Tigers have an interest in the quick and highly skilled Yarran, they are also among the clubs in the race for Greater Western Sydney's out-of-contract midfielder Adam Treloar, who is understood to be a higher priority for the Tigers and also for rival bidders Collingwood and North Melbourne. Treloar is increasingly likely to leave the Giants at season's end.
Unlike Treloar, Yarran, 24, is under contract for 2016, when he would become a free agent. The Blues, thus, also have the option of keeping Yarran for next year and gambling that another club will seek him as a free agent. If a rival club offered him a large enough contract, the Blues could conceivably earn a first-round compensation selection in return, though this is by no means assured.
Yarran has been the subject of much trade speculation this season, as the Blues begin the process of reshaping their playing list under list manager Stephen Silvagni, with the club keen to gain additional selections in the early rounds of the national draft.
Caretaker coach John Barker has spoken positively about Yarran's future with the club, despite suspending him for a week for disciplinary reasons shortly after Barker took over from Mick Malthouse.
Key position swingman Lachie Henderson remains unsigned and would almost certainly earn Carlton a first-round selection in the draft if he decided to leave. As with Adelaide champion Patrick Dangerfield, Henderson appears Geelong-bound and unlikely to look elsewhere if he decides to leave his club. Treloar has emerged as one of the most keenly sought players in the AFL, the midfielder attracting far heftier offers – a minimum of five years – from Victorian clubs than GWS's offer, which is restricted by their salary cap limit and the fact they have been so successful in re-contracting other talented young players.
Treloar not only has been offered a much less lucrative deal by GWS, but he can earn the Giants the valuable draft picks and points that would enable them to recruit their prized NSW academy players Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy.
The Cats are also keen to reunite brothers Joel and Scott Selwood, with the latter able to cross to Geelong as a restricted free agent. Selwood is yet to re-sign with West Coast, which wants to keep the tough midfielder and younger brother of the Geelong skipper.
Yarran, an elite ball carrier with speed and excellent disposal, is viewed by many observers as more valuable to a strong team with mature senior players than a younger rebuilding team such as the Blues.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-interested-in-carltons-chris-yarran-20150730-gio7d0.html
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good ive had enough of him smashing us in a blue jumper
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All the media talk that we are interested in this player and that player and at the end of it all I can see us missing out on all of them. Will end up with more fringe players from lower end clubs, just can't seem to attract the big fish, what are we doing wrong, the Pies seem to be mentioned and without fail a player ends up there.
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All the media talk that we are interested in this player and that player and at the end of it all I can see us missing out on all of them. Will end up with more fringe players from lower end clubs, just can't seem to attract the big fish, what are we doing wrong, the Pies seem to be mentioned and without fail a player ends up there.
I don't think the filth have been that successful attracting the so called "big fish". The swans have as have the pee&poo but not the filth.
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Parker from swans is Contracted till end of 16 season.
He is mentioned in the title but no one has really discussed him. Any interest?
Also Prestia from SUNS though ditto contract length.
Both great players
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Parker from swans is Contracted till end of 16 season.
He is mentioned in the title but no one has really discussed him. Any interest?
Also Prestia from SUNS though ditto contract length.
Both great players
hell-yes
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I say yes to Yarran but only if he don't cost us too much.
2nd rounder and I'd do it or a straight swap with gordon.
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I say yes to Yarran but only if he don't cost us too much.
2nd rounder and I'd do it or a straight swap with gordon.
agree with this. upgrade on a few of our players but has a bad attitude and gets in trouble alot. if he can fix that and improve his work rate he could be a good player for us. stick him in the forward line
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id put him on wing at the mcg. his pace would be fantastic going into the forward line.
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id put him on wing at the mcg. his pace would be fantastic going into the forward line.
Hbf
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Jon Ralph on SEN just now said it's down to four players Richmond are after.
Treloar - the No.1 target.
Yarran - Ralph reckons he'll be a poor fit for us.
Prestia - going to be hard to snatch him away.
Motlop - wants a 5 year deal at around $450k p.a. Geelong going to gain Scott Selwood which may make it hard for them to keep Motlop.
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Parker from swans is Contracted till end of 16 season.
He is mentioned in the title but no one has really discussed him. Any interest?
Also Prestia from SUNS though ditto contract length.
Both great players
hell-yes
Both would be on good coin if they came over, but not enough to disrupt the rest of the salary cap. And not put noses out of joint. Unless the playing group thought were locked and loaded and ready to tilt towards flag contention :shh
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if motlop only wants 450k pa then youd think geelong would have little trouble keeping him.
although im not sure id be giving him a 5 year contract.
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Jon Ralph on SEN just now said it's down to four players Richmond are after.
Treloar - the No.1 target.
Yarran - Ralph reckons he'll be a poor fit for us.
Prestia - going to be hard to snatch him away.
Motlop - wants a 5 year deal at around $450k p.a. Geelong going to gain Scott Selwood which may make it hard for them to keep Motlop.
With a bit of daring & imagination we could get 3 out of 4 or even all of them plus Carlisle & Kreuzer and probabably still keep our first round pick this year as well.
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stuff em
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I say yes to Yarran but only if he don't cost us too much.
2nd rounder and I'd do it or a straight swap with gordon.
I recon he is worth more than just a second rounder. If he could pull his head in and not act like a complete wanker he could be a very good pick up. Still young enough to turn it around IMO.
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gordon :lol
as if
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motlop can do some exciting stuff, but gee, anyone watching the cats game see his non effort after dishing off a handball?
literally stopped and watch the play unfold around him.
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Motlop would quickly become a whipping boy. Get Treloar
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:lol
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More likely to get Yarran if we promise to keep Gordon.
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gordon :lol
as if
Might have to throw in Andy Collins
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umm, yeah....ok
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gordon :lol
as if
Might have to throw in Andy Collins
Isn't he a playing coach up the bush somewhere?
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gordon :lol
as if
Might have to throw in Andy Collins
Isn't he a playing coach up the bush somewhere?
Damn, was that a comment on football.
Sorry folks I will try not to do that again.
:thumbsup
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Yes and so soon after you were asked about it - and in the nearest thread.
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motlop can do some exciting stuff, but gee, anyone watching the cats game see his non effort after dishing off a handball?
literally stopped and watch the play unfold around him.
It would harsh for me to form an opinion of his game today by only commenting on what the camera showed but jeez he wasn't inspiring today.
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BOG last week.....will never be a 22 round performer but he'll still win more than his fair share of matches.(could say the same about Martin) It's not as if he'll be another Mitch Morton. Either way, he'd fill an immediate need.
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Treloar and Prestia for mine would be a goldmine result for the Richmond Football Club and would put us right in the van for the flag in 2016, pick up a ruckman free agent like Leunberger and we are right in with a huge chance.
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Agree with that too....as I said, a bit of daring & imagination and we could get them all.
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and you can trade future draft picks now ...
go nuts win a few flags then worry about trading some back in
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Yep that new rule should open it right up for us this year -we need to take full advantage and strike while the iron is hot.
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Inside sources saying Treloar to the Magpies is as good as done.
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Yep that new rule should open it right up for us this year -we need to take full advantage and strike while the iron is hot.
What he said.
:lol
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why would you say that?
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Can't decide on Yarran, he is either really peeed off at the blues or has lost it?
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Inside sources saying Treloar to the Magpies is as good as done.
Probably is - though the same was said about Franklin going to GWS. Mind you, we don't have the COLA.
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Dangerfield is fine too
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Spoke to someone in "the know" today, trust me we DEFINATELY DO NOT WANT Motlop or Yarran, geelong and carlton are desperate to offload them
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Good aim higher
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Spoke to someone in "the know" today, trust me we DEFINATELY DO NOT WANT Motlop or Yarran, geelong and carlton are desperate to offload them
I wouldn't be so certain about that, Motlop most certainly in our sights
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seems to play his best football off the half back flank. He might have pace but he's softer than Grigg and loses his poo to easy.
To be honest I just can't see him fitting in the current side.
Our biggest deficiency at the moment is our forward line, we need to go hard for both a Key forward (Dixon, Lynch, Carlisle) and a small forward (Matera, Motlop, Hrovat)
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seems to play his best football off the half back flank. He might have pace but he's softer than Grigg and loses his poo to easy.
To be honest I just can't see him fitting in the current side.
Our biggest deficiency at the moment is our forward line, we need to go hard for both a Key forward (Dixon, Lynch, Carlisle) and a small forward (Matera, Motlop, Hrovat)
Softer, but significantly more talented.
Why would you get Carlisle, and play him forward? Where he is a proven failure as opposed to back where he is aa quality?
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Well I'd get him primarily to play down back but he has kicked 8 in a match as a forward - which is twice as many as Vickery's biggest haul. Handy swingman at least. WADA concerns not withstanding, we should be heavily into him. Wanted him instead of Griffiths in '09 and still do. Should swap them and right another of Hackson's wrongs.
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Fair enough, forgot that he kicked a few bags
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Essendon would probably want Rance and our first round pick - absolute prick of a club to deal with.
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If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
In fact, the truth is - youre all racists m
You only have hopes for him because he's aboriginal.
Be honest with yourselves
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You wouldn't want him if he was white.
Just sayin........
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If he was white he wouldn't be as fast or as x factor-ish
Just saying
#positivesterotypesRAok
#olympic100mFinal
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I remember the female commentator Debbie Spillane years ago on the ABC sport show Live and Sweaty with Andrew Denton staging a minature recreation of the Olympic 100 metre final using cheese cubes to represent the runners and saying, I shyte you not, "I've decided to use Coon because it's the final..."
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remember the old coon cheese add with the two boys watching the footy back when krackuers were playing? one was a north supporter and his mate said I'll swap you a cracker for a coon.
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If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
In fact, the truth is - youre all racists m
You only have hopes for him because he's aboriginal.
Be honest with yourselves
Spot on
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Motlop and Yarran are bit players. Wouldn't give a 5 yr deal for motlop and wouldn't pay more than 450k.
Get some a graders Richardson you hack of a footy manager. How many have we attempted to go after and failed. The closest was trengrove
Wake up and get Treloar or Danger. Yarran please
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i know it's not good practice to make judgements on one incident or one game, but when you look at the way our entire side played friday, the pressure, the intensity, the second efforts, the work rate to get to contests and to set up defensively,then look at motlop yesterday and gee, you wouldnt have wanted that out there friday.
you definately wouldnt want to offer someone that has so much work to do on their game a 5 year deal.
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i know it's not good practice to make judgements on one incident or one game, but when you look at the way our entire side played friday, the pressure, the intensity, the second efforts, the work rate to get to contests and to set up defensively,then look at motlop yesterday and gee, you wouldnt have wanted that out there friday.
you definately wouldnt want to offer someone that has so much work to do on their game a 5 year deal.
ditto Yarran based on what i saw last night.......
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i know it's not good practice to make judgements on one incident or one game, but when you look at the way our entire side played friday, the pressure, the intensity, the second efforts, the work rate to get to contests and to set up defensively,then look at motlop yesterday and gee, you wouldnt have wanted that out there friday.
you definately wouldnt want to offer someone that has so much work to do on their game a 5 year deal.
Would you notice much difference though if he was in the team instead of Lloyd or Newman?
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lloyd sill needs a decent chance to prove himself. he didnt do too much wrong in the short time was on the ground on friday
i cant ever recall seeing newman do what i saw motlop do yesterday. actually i cant ever recall seeing too many senior footballers at any level do that.
non efforts are pretty much inexcusable, regardless of how much talent you have.
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If he was white he wouldn't be as fast or as x factor-ish
Just saying
#positivesterotypesRAok
#olympic100mFinal
You know the two fastest players in the AFL are white?
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If he was white he wouldn't be as fast or as x factor-ish
Just saying
#positivesterotypesRAok
#olympic100mFinal
You know the two fastest players in the AFL are white?
U know the 100 fastest guys on earth r black
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I remember the female commentator Debbie Spillane years ago on the ABC sport show Live and Sweaty with Andrew Denton staging a minature recreation of the Olympic 100 metre final using cheese cubes to represent the runners and saying, I shyte you not, "I've decided to use Coon because it's the final..."
:rollin :rollin
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If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
In fact, the truth is - youre all racists m
You only have hopes for him because he's aboriginal.
Be honest with yourselves
Cause he's black people rate him?
Not cause he's done so much damage the last five years vs th tigers?
I think the expression you are looking for is 'reverse racism'. Ironic , given the current climate :)
You wouldn't want him if he was white.
Just sayin........
Its a bit of a bizarre hypothetical, as he is a black man
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non efforts are pretty much inexcusable, regardless of how much talent you have.
motlop can do some exciting stuff, but gee, anyone watching the cats game see his non effort after dishing off a handball?
literally stopped and watch the play unfold around him.
Have to say I saw McDonuts do this when he came in and as we all know he was dropped a week later. Hopefully the recruiters look at this type of stuff in opposition players
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If he was white he wouldn't be as fast or as x factor-ish
Just saying
#positivesterotypesRAok
#olympic100mFinal
You know the two fastest players in the AFL are white?
U know the 100 fastest guys on earth r black
Actually incorrect but okay
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If he was white he wouldn't be as fast or as x factor-ish
Just saying
#positivesterotypesRAok
#olympic100mFinal
You know the two fastest players in the AFL are white?
U know the 100 fastest guys on earth r black
Actually incorrect but okay
Well I just guessing
But the 100m finals the last 20 years how many white fellas? Zero?
Its scientifically proven black muscle fibers twitch faster hence run faster. But please give me more of the PC goodness
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i know it's not good practice to make judgements on one incident or one game, but when you look at the way our entire side played friday, the pressure, the intensity, the second efforts, the work rate to get to contests and to set up defensively,then look at motlop yesterday and gee, you wouldnt have wanted that out there friday.
you definately wouldnt want to offer someone that has so much work to do on their game a 5 year deal.
Would you notice much difference though if he was in the team instead of Lloyd or Newman?
Yarren would be a better option in the 22 than newy
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PC goodness ::)
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100m final ...
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It's because they're ancestors were still hunter gatherers more recently than Europeans and other races...but it's even different within Africa....West Africans (from where most West Indians & African Americans are descended) are superior sprinters and East Africans are superior long distance runners.
Fred Hollows use to say that that Aboriginals were born with superior eyesight.
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lloyd sill needs a decent chance to prove himself. he didnt do too much wrong in the short time was on the ground on friday
i cant ever recall seeing newman do what i saw motlop do yesterday. actually i cant ever recall seeing too many senior footballers at any level do that.
non efforts are pretty much inexcusable, regardless of how much talent you have.
I saw Vickery do it numerous times on Friday night. Grigg used to do it too....except he'd cover it up with a lot of pointing and waving...
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Notorious racist was fred
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Heard he used to post at Stormfront under the alias "14/88 Vision"
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Its scientifically proven black muscle fibers twitch faster hence run faster. But please give me more of the PC goodness
:lol
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if we are talking about people coming from slave stock, we also have a form of accelerated natural selection and selective breeding
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there is though a difference between a player (particularily a lumbering one) not chasing down a player as he runs away from him (not that im excusing it though), and dishing off a handball to a team mate, then literally stop as he tries to find a way through the congestion. no shepards, no running on to take a handball,nothing. just stop and observe as the play unfolds around him like a water carrier caught in the wrong position.
i was flabbergasted and had to rewind the play to confirm what i saw
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Yes that's also big factor al....though we risk being accused of espousing eugenics.... :shh
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Yeah Grigg use to do exactly that al....hell I've also seen Grigg on more than one occasion run virtually shoulder to shoulder with an opposition ball carrier and point to a team mate 10 metres away to pick him up...fortunately he seems to have eliminated that crap from his game in this final year of his current contract....
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Would you notice much difference though if he was in the team instead of Lloyd or Newman?
Not really the right comparison.
Yarran off the backline.
Yarran 180cm 83kg 19/12/90
Houli 180cm 84kg 12/5/88
Hunt 184cm 78kg 5/11/90
Drummond 182cm 86kg 19/1/95
Ellis C 184cm 75kg 9/10/96
McDonough 180cm 82kg 26/1/94
Castagna 181cm 78kg 12/7/96
Arnot 180cm 86kg 21/10/93
All bar Houli and Hunt are younger, McDonough and Arnot probably won't be there next year, Ellis will probably spend his first couple of years off HBF.
And that's only for the two possible small back positions while these take the medium defender spot.
Vlastuin 187cm 86kg 19/4/94
Morris 185cm 83kg 31/12/88
Conca 185cm 83kg 12/8/92
Petterd 185cm 85kg 24/7/88
Dea 186cm 86kg 13/10/91
Menadue 187cm 69kg 19/9/96
Batchelor 188cm 88kg 13/2/92
Don't think that a Yarran type - small rebounding defender - is a priority ATM with that much cover although I must admit that he is an attractive option when at his best.
His attitude to me is the biggest problem. After years we seem to have finally gotten rid of the style of only going when you feel like it. Why invite it back inside?
Same applies to Motlop IMO.
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Would you notice much difference though if he was in the team instead of Lloyd or Newman?
Not really the right comparison.
Yarran off the backline.
Yarran 180cm 83kg 19/12/90
Houli 180cm 84kg 12/5/88
Hunt 184cm 78kg 5/11/90
Drummond 182cm 86kg 19/1/95
Ellis C 184cm 75kg 9/10/96
McDonough 180cm 82kg 26/1/94
Castagna 181cm 78kg 12/7/96
Arnot 180cm 86kg 21/10/93
All bar Houli and Hunt are younger, McDonough and Arnot probably won't be there next year, Ellis will probably spend his first couple of years off HBF.
And that's only for the two possible small back positions while these take the medium defender spot.
Vlastuin 187cm 86kg 19/4/94
Morris 185cm 83kg 31/12/88
Conca 185cm 83kg 12/8/92
Petterd 185cm 85kg 24/7/88
Dea 186cm 86kg 13/10/91
Menadue 187cm 69kg 19/9/96
Batchelor 188cm 88kg 13/2/92
Don't think that a Yarran type - small rebounding defender - is a priority ATM with that much cover although I must admit that he is an attractive option when at his best.
His attitude to me is the biggest problem. After years we seem to have finally gotten rid of the style of only going when you feel like it. Why invite it back inside?
Same applies to Motlop IMO.
I was talking about Motlop filling that small forward role instead of Lloyd or Newman.
Motlop 1.85m 79kg 12/3/91 (24)
Lloyd 1.80m 83kg 3/3/90 (25)
Newman 1.83m 81kg 18/5/82 (33)
Age obviously not much difference than Lloyd but an eternity younger than Newman. Newman obviously can go back and play a defensive role (his usefulness can be argued somewhere else) which I don't think Motlop or Lloyd can and probably provides more F50 pressure. Saying that Motlop has them all covered for speed and finding the ball and I reckon you have a better chance of ingraining a defensive mindset in someone like Motlop than trying to turn someone like Lloyd into a fast player.
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yeah as i typed i wondered if someone would twist it into something it isnt.
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I was talking about Motlop filling that small forward role instead of Lloyd or Newman.
Motlop 1.85m 79kg 12/3/91 (24)
Lloyd 1.80m 83kg 3/3/90 (25)
Newman 1.83m 81kg 18/5/82 (33)
Age obviously not much difference than Lloyd but an eternity younger than Newman. Newman obviously can go back and play a defensive role (his usefulness can be argued somewhere else) which I don't think Motlop or Lloyd can and probably provides more F50 pressure. Saying that Motlop has them all covered for speed and finding the ball and I reckon you have a better chance of ingraining a defensive mindset in someone like Motlop than trying to turn someone like Lloyd into a fast player.
Sorry about my misread but I still think it's similar in terms of options.
Lennon 188cm 77kg 5/7/95
Ellis C 184cm 75kg 9/10/96
Morris 185cm 83kg 31/12/88
Knights 184cm 84kg 25/9/86
Gordon 186cm 86kg 12/2/90
Conca 185cm 83kg 12/8/92
Petterd 185cm 85kg 24/7/88
Menadue 187cm 69kg 19/9/96
and that doesn't include the others like
Deledio 188cm 89kg 18/4/87
Martin 187cm 90kg 26/6/91
Cotchin 185cm 85kg 7/4/90
Edwards 182cm 81kg 25/10/88
who rest forward.
Paying a high cost - both in trade and salary terms - for an inconsistent small forward who you admit doesn't defend well is not IMO good list management.
When you look at it there is a fair chance that by the end of next year both Ellis and Menadue could be better players than Motlop and Gordon, Knights, Petterd can fill the hole in the interim.
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except for the comment on gordon knights and pettard, i agree with redan.
initially i found the idea of getting motlop tantalising, but I've gone cold on the idea.
theres an good article on the cats website about what scott is trying to install in his game.
if we got him cheap and more importantly on a short term contract fine, but thats about it.
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I'd have Motlop in our side in a heartbeat.
He can play forward but more importantly he can play on ball and IMO we are still a couple of first class on ballers short.
He is still young and it means we have 1 less of our average small forwards in our side. (Lloyd, Donuts or Gordon)
The most important thing for us to improve is our small forward spot and he can do that comfortably.
We need to improve our final 5 players picked in our side each week as we are lucky and have 6 A graders that dominate most weeks and get us over the line.
IMO $450k over 5 years is reasonable but I'd really like it if we could swap say maybe Griff and keep our first rounder for another player.
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We don't need a small forward
We have Lids
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We don't need a small forward
We have Lids
You don't think we could have Lids continue to play his current roll and have a crumbing forward like Betts play in the same forwardline?
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except for the comment on gordon knights and pettard, i agree with redan.
initially i found the idea of getting motlop tantalising, but I've gone cold on the idea.
theres an good article on the cats website about what scott is trying to install in his game.
if we got him cheap and more importantly on a short term contract fine, but thats about it.
I think price is the biggest factor as you said. If we could do something like Donuts and a second rounder for Motlop I'd do it. I think small forward is one of our more pressing needs. I don't agree with $450k over 5 years though
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Its scientifically proven black muscle fibers twitch faster hence run faster. But please give me more of the PC goodness
:lol
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if we are talking about people coming from slave stock, we also have a form of accelerated natural selection and selective breeding
A little from column a
A little from columa b
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except for the comment on gordon knights and pettard, i agree with redan.
initially i found the idea of getting motlop tantalising, but I've gone cold on the idea.
theres an good article on the cats website about what scott is trying to install in his game.
if we got him cheap and more importantly on a short term contract fine, but thats about it.
I think price is the biggest factor as you said. If we could do something like Donuts and a second rounder for Motlop I'd do it. I think small forward is one of our more pressing needs. I don't agree with $450k over 5 years though
$450k isn't unreasonable but 5 years is a long time and it's a gamble, but he is only 24. You need to be bold to win premierships and sometime you just have to take that risk.
Hawthorn play 3 small forwards all with real pace that rotate through the midfield. The extra speed would be a great help too.. Motlop would be a great fit IMO.
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Jack Riewoldt. Brett Deledio. Shane Edwards
Liam McBean. Tyrone Vickery . Ben Lennon
We don't need a small forward
We have Lids
You don't think we could have Lids continue to play his current roll and have a crumbing forward like Betts play in the same forwardline?
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I'd take Yarran too if you could get him for a second rounder. Again I think his speed would be a massive bonus for our side.
For example-
Griff for Motlop (Geelong could do with another big man)
Our second pick for Yarran
We keep our first pick for a young star or trade it for Carlisle or Treloar.
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Stiill need a dual sided super quick short arse who can also tackle.
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Indigenous, preferably, IMHO
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if they r dual sided super quick and can tackle wgaf what their heritage is?
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diversity
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diversity
PC goodness
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diversity
PC goodness
has the all australian of the year taught you nothing ?
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Can trade next year's picks now as well.
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Needles Carlisle. Dylan Grimes. Nick Vlastuin
Corey Ellis. Alex Rance. Jake Batchelor
Brandon Ellis. Anthony Miles. Kane Lambert
Jack Riewoldt. Brett Deledio. Shane Edwards
Liam McBean. Griff/Vickery . Ben Lennon
Ivan Maric. Dustin Martin Trent Cotchin
Reece Conca. Kamdyn Mcintosh. Treloar.
Yarran/Motlop
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Needles Carlisle. Dylan Grimes. Nick Vlastuin
Corey Ellis. Alex Rance. Jake Batchelor
Brandon Ellis. Anthony Miles. Kane Lambert
Jack Riewoldt. Brett Deledio. Shane Edwards
Liam McBean. Griff/Vickery . Ben Lennon
Ivan Maric. Dustin Martin Trent Cotchin
Reece Conca. Kamdyn Mcintosh. Treloar.
Yarran/Motlop
Now you're picking on druggos, you know there are depression issues out there? Just so wrong that you point out and alienate a minority. They need our support :banghead
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I'd take Yarran too if you could get him for a second rounder. Again I think his speed would be a massive bonus for our side.
For example-
Griff for Motlop (Geelong could do with another big man)
Our second pick for Yarran
We keep our first pick for a young star or trade it for Carlisle or Treloar.
Big Tone, on the surface yarran motlop would appear attractive, but both clubs have been shopping these 2 around, trust me, there is another story here with both these players, happy to be proven wrong, but best to pass
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I'd take Yarran too if you could get him for a second rounder. Again I think his speed would be a massive bonus for our side.
For example-
Griff for Motlop (Geelong could do with another big man)
Our second pick for Yarran
We keep our first pick for a young star or trade it for Carlisle or Treloar.
Big Tone, on the surface yarran motlop would appear attractive, but both clubs have been shopping these 2 around, trust me, there is another story here with both these players, happy to be proven wrong, but best to pass
You maybe right but maybe Motlop just wants more money and maybe Yarran is just over the CFC. Just like Gartlett was and now seems to be doing pretty well at the Dees.
Some guys just need a change and a freshen up.
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LOL Donuts and a second rounder
"There's a bloke in here selling seven eskies"
Tell him he's dreamin
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Don't think Motlop or Yarran are on our radar, or at least Hardwick's.
He likes an ultra-defensive game plan.
It's part of the reason he plays Jack so far away from goal - to lock the ball in and have him running at goal.
He really wants a consistent effort from all players and you won't get that from those two.
He wants his forwards to be defensive at all times to prevent rebound. It's why he likes Lids, Edwards, Jack and Gordon forward.
The same is true of Newman and Morris - defensive tacklers to defend the rebound.
The younger players are more likely to release forward defensive pressure and so don't get a game.
I want a more exciting, attacking team with flair like everybody else but I understand you will pay a price on the flipside.
Don't think Hardwick is prepared to pay that price and on his results you have to agree with him.
Personally want Treloar or Prestia and a big forward like Dixon.
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how about Hemderson from the blues ..looks like hes been stamped
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Don't need talls G , Mcbean , leading vfl goal kicker can't get a game , motlop suits out needs , will cost a bit , he wouldn't come for 450k
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LOL Donuts and a second rounder
"There's a bloke in here selling seven eskies"
Tell him he's dreamin
It was an example of how much I think he's roughly worth ::). Guess it depends how much you rate Motlop
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Cultural favouritism.
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I'd take Yarran too if you could get him for a second rounder. Again I think his speed would be a massive bonus for our side.
For example-
Griff for Motlop (Geelong could do with another big man)
Our second pick for Yarran
We keep our first pick for a young star or trade it for Carlisle or Treloar.
Big Tone, on the surface yarran motlop would appear attractive, but both clubs have been shopping these 2 around, trust me, there is another story here with both these players, happy to be proven wrong, but best to pass
You maybe right but maybe Motlop just wants more money and maybe Yarran is just over the CFC. Just like Gartlett was and now seems to be doing pretty well at the Dees.
Some guys just need a change and a freshen up.
Big Tone
happy to trust the powers that be and support their call I guess.
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Carlton is set to axe Chris Yarran & Troy Menzel, reports @ClarkyHeraldSun.
https://twitter.com/superfooty
If you can't get a game at Carlton = cheap at chips at the trade table.
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By the way, Motlop looks good in a Tiger guernsey.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLs9xUDVEAAa8FR.jpg)
https://twitter.com/kareeming_1
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I'm not opposed to Yarran at a bargain price. Getting the flick and a fresh start at a new club where he isn't a guaranteed starter could be the kick up the arse he needs. Quick, good user, just lazy and a bit soft.
What's the deal with Menzel? Thought he was a part of their future with Buckley and Cripps and stuff?
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Menzel ?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLs9xUDVEAAa8FR.jpg)
Geez he looks good. Would love him at Richmond, but I can't see him coming cheap.
What do people think on trading our first pick in this years draft and next year for Treloar and Motlop?
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I would take Motlop, Menzel and Trleoar. For the first round pick a player and a second round pick?
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Would we take Yarran, and how cheaply would he come?
If the Garlett trade is anything to go by then a Round 4 draft pick should get him over.
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Would we take Yarran, and how cheaply would he come?
If the Garlett trade is anything to go by then a Round 4 draft pick should get him over.
Motlop way before Yarren and I'm not sure Yarren is a good fit for the club, he is also stained with the Carlscum culture.
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I prefer Motlop over Yarran too but the interest from North and Essendon might drive his cost more than his worth. At least with Yarran we would have change left over.
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Can't see Motlop or any other player worth a crap wanting to go to Essendon.
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We're still being linked to Yarran.
While Yarran, 24, has been linked to a move to Richmond, the club [Carlton] is determined to help the line breaker return to his scintillating best in navy blue.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-will-axe-chris-yarran-troy-menzel-after-failing-to-meet-on-field-expectations/story-fndv8f7j-1227472830513
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We're still being linked to Yarran.
While Yarran, 24, has been linked to a move to Richmond, the club [Carlton] is determined to help the line breaker return to his scintillating best in navy blue.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-will-axe-chris-yarran-troy-menzel-after-failing-to-meet-on-field-expectations/story-fndv8f7j-1227472830513
hard to do that in the magoos....
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We're still being linked to Yarran.
While Yarran, 24, has been linked to a move to Richmond, the club [Carlton] is determined to help the line breaker return to his scintillating best in navy blue.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-will-axe-chris-yarran-troy-menzel-after-failing-to-meet-on-field-expectations/story-fndv8f7j-1227472830513
hard to do that in the magoos....
Don't their VFL team wear navy blue as well ;D
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Must move heaven and earth for Treloar and Motlop now!! Maybe even Kruz too.
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Treloar would be a great get for any club, can't disagree there. He'll I'm even open to the suggestion of a Krueger, Luenberger type. BUT must be able to Ruck and go foward.
I'm not so sold on Motlop. And here's why:
Playing for us he will have good games and maybe even some great but there is a gulf between his best and worst and he goes missing as much as what a dozen players on our list already do.
The type of players we should be bringing in are the likes of Parkers, Prestia etc Quality individuals that are consistent and play to team standards.
I know we're crying out for a small forward to kick goals and scoop up the pill off the deck, why not go for one of these Hrovat types from Doggies or another club who will do a job and not cost a fortune.
Remember our biggest problem is depth we can't just splurge all the coin on Treloar and Motlop because we should be filling needs and replacing as many players as possible.
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We need a couple of line breakers. The whole place cant go down the crapper everytime Deledio doesn't play.
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We need a couple of line breakers. The whole place cant go down the crapper everytime Deledio doesn't play.
Or even when he does
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Lloyd today said they spoke to Benny Gale yesterday and Benny was chirpy when they mentioned Treloar's name and if he would end up at Richmond. Eddie was being interviewed on 3aw at the same time and chipped in 'well at least Brendon has one thing to be chirpy about after last night'.
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O thank god :pray
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Lloyd today said they spoke to Benny Gale yesterday and Benny was chirpy when they mentioned Treloar's name and if he would end up at Richmond. Eddie was being interviewed on 3aw at the same time and chipped in 'well at least Brendon has one thing to be chirpy about after last night'.
Oh yes, I bloody hope the hell so.. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Hope young Adam wasn't watching last night. Might've changed his tune.
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Lloyd today said they spoke to Benny Gale yesterday and Benny was chirpy when they mentioned Treloar's name and if he would end up at Richmond. Eddie was being interviewed on 3aw at the same time and chipped in 'well at least Brendon has one thing to be chirpy about after last night'.
Interesting, :shh
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:pray
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The Herald-Sun are still going with the Treloar to Collingwood line but they also say we've offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
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Sunday Score: What will Collingwood and Carlton have to give up for Adam Treloar and James Aish?
Jon Anderson, Jon Ralph
Herald-Sun
August 09, 2015
ADAM Treloar and James Aish are two star midfielders likely to arrive at a club near you.
GWS’s Treloar is believed to be on his way to Collingwood, rounding out a star-studded new-look midfield, and Aish is believed to favour a move to Carlton, despite strong offers from Adelaide.
But what do these two arch-rivals have to give up?
Collingwood believes it will get the Treloar deal done with its first-round pick, but GWS is likely to ask for more.
The Giants don’t want players, needing only picks to help them acquire their two academy kids, Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy.
The Pies held Brisbane over a barrel for Dayne Beams — eventually extracting picks 5 and 25, which they used for Levi Greenwood and Jack Crisp.
Treloar is only 22, and as exciting as any midfielder of his age. If Collingwood’s ladder position remains the same it would have pick eight, but that would be its opening bid.
Industry sources say the Giants might ask for their first and second-round picks, or a first-rounder this year and a future pick next year.
If Collingwood were to miss out on Treloar — Richmond and North Melbourne have offered six-year deals — it might make a move on Aish, too.
http://www.news.com.au/national/sunday-score-what-will-collingwood-and-carlton-have-to-give-up-for-adam-treloar-and-james-aish/story-e6frfkp9-1227475480016
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If he goes to Collingwood it will be a load of crap.
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Get used to it WAT. No one descent wants to our club except your Chris knights types
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The rumour about his (Treloars) missus's dad getting him to Collingwood still persists but surely can't have that much merit?
The deciding factor for mine is what we give up. First round pick goes, but I'd expect a player on top and maybe trading down 2nd/3rd round picks as well.
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news tonight that Tigers are very interested in Yarran
He also said on Talijg Footy that we are interested in Treloar & Motlop
Thanks Capt Obvious telling us something we didn't know..,NOT
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http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-is-hopeful-of-securing-adam-treloar-and-james-aish-during-afl-trade-period/story-fn69a32t-1227479263831
Of course they are the idiots
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We would leak the same tripe if playing for 11th
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Motlop i wwant
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Reports doing the rounds that Geelong have upped their offer to Motlop - 4 years at $450 p.a.
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Pick-a-Winner-r20.jpg)
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-08-13/tigers-you-must-get-this-cat
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Barrett tonight claiming "senior Richmond officials" have spoken and met with Yarran.
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According to Barrett tonight, Collingwood has offered Treloar a 6 year deal worth up to $850k including add ons.
Richmond and North still interested in Treloar but both are also looking elsewhere. North now keen on Motlop and think they can get him via the family connection (older brothers ex-Kangaroos). Richmond chasing Yarran (see other thread).
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Level playing field my arse.
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Yarran :lol
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Oh dear god :facepalm
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I wouldn't give creedence to what Barrett says.
It's like giving out the Christmas Day forecast on Dec 1 and saying hot and windy early until a thundery, rainy south westerly change comes through that will drop the mercury rapidly.
In so many words, fingers in pies and I may eat tonight. :help
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You just watch - Yarran will be all we'll get and we'll probably give up our first round pick for him too.....
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We gave 33 for Hampson in a poo draft who played less games than this spud
I expect these clowns to offload a pick around 20 to the blues.
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You just watch - Yarran will be all we'll get and we'll probably give up our first round pick for him too.....
After compo is handed out, and say we finish 6th, our 1st round pick might be say pick 17/18. Carlton's 2nd rnd pick would be about pick 24. Would you downgrade 7 places for him?
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Maybe but if the draft is as weak as everyone is saying then there could be a big difference between those seven places.
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Clubs stuffed if they picked this pickle up.
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I'd be disappointed too if he is the only fish we land, but he is definitely worth the risk for a pick lower than 30.
He can play. Just needs a decent team around him and a shake up.
I'd play him on a forward flank.
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:lol
As long as we're giving Treloar a red hot crack.
Pies will likely have a higher pick. That will work against us but we should be able to work around it.
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Maybe but if the draft is as weak as everyone is saying then there could be a big difference between those seven places.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_AFL_draft
This was also a "weak draft" when we picked up that other Carlton spud. 7 picks can be a big difference in the 20's.
Yarran is exactly what I expect Richmond to get to follow in the great steps of hunt, grigg and Angus hampshit
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Yarrans class and run off half back would be invaluable. I'd prefer to Houli
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More like a tadpole - take him for nothing
Big stuffing fish tigers big stuffing fish, stop getting arse stuffed by all and sundry...
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Lburger, s martin ....
Do something Richmond
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Suckling is a free a agent too?
Is that the one with perfect kicking tech? Get him too ffs
Lions WANT to lose lburger to get pick 2
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issue if we want yarran he will add to that ever growing list of players that cant kick on there wrong side we don't need to blokes running of the half back doing that... Yarran could be a pitch hitter at HFF and if we get motlop anyother HFF we look rerally quick around the forwrad line and crummers what we badly need
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Bennell & motlop
Pls
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is the big fish complex just an extension of the messiah complex?
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well we have heard time and time again Richmond have plenty of coin to offer it has to be either motlop who is still unsure as he was going to be part of the Dangerfield trade but know Hawkins signed on big coin he is reconsidering as danger will stay in Adelaide.
Trealoar why look at Collingwood mate they want everyone we are more upcoming then them, choco must still have a connection with the young players considering he was with GWS he has only been able to get Miles across come on choco get Adam :clapping
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Suckling is a free a agent too?
Is that the one with perfect kicking tech? Get him too ffs
Lions WANT to lose lburger to get pick 2
agree with going for stefan but i think suckling will get found out in a richmond jumper. Im probably on my own here but i dont rate him.
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Suckling is a free a agent too?
Is that the one with perfect kicking tech? Get him too ffs
Lions WANT to lose lburger to get pick 2
agree with going for stefan but i think suckling will get found out in a richmond jumper. Im probably on my own here but i dont rate him.
Stef martin would be good cause he'd be happy being number2 rruck
Suckling ccan't be any more a squib than houli
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If they cant get Treloar they should target Prestia from Gold Coast.
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martin can u really see martin wanting to come to richmond to play back up bigman noooo way the dogs are primed for him on all reports like to know where there getting the coin form considering the past 2 what they have spent on camerai,boyd maybe hand outs from AFL.....
Its clear we don't get trealoar we get motlop can play mid and kick goals we know we need that
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Suckling is a free a agent too?
Is that the one with perfect kicking tech? Get him too ffs
Lions WANT to lose lburger to get pick 2
agree with going for stefan but i think suckling will get found out in a richmond jumper. Im probably on my own here but i dont rate him.
Suckling can kick and that's about it.
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I don't know why you all bother.
We aren't getting anyone, we never do, we only get players nobody else wants
Hunt, Pettard, Thomas ect
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From Damian Barrett's sliding doors column ...
Richmond
IF ..... you picture Chris Yarran in a yellow and black guernsey ...
THEN ... he looks very good and the Tigers look very, very good.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Sliding_Doors_r20.jpeg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-14/sliding-doors-round-20#sthash.RQxVwTHA.dpuf
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Whoa sounding a bit bitter and twisted there!
Agree the pressure is on though. Blair and Dan need to deliver this year after donuts over the previous 2.
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Honestly don't understand how he gets paid for that. :lol
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Latest rumour during the rounds on Big Footy is that Carlton want McBean in exchange for Yarran.
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how many on the yarran bandwagon would be prepared to give up mcbean for him?
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:lol
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Latest rumour during the rounds on Big Footy is that Carlton want McBean in exchange for Yarran.
They'd have to throw in Gibbs and Keruezer ffs
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No thanks
Especially not for McBean Lmao :lol
He could prove to be a handy pickup for us, but not if we have to trade quality for him it could be a liability.
Maybe a late 2nd rounder and make him earn his spot then maybe ok but as I said could be a liability like Houli.
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Hampson for Yarran....... :cheers
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I'd take Yarran but no way for McBean.
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I'd take Yarran but no way for McBean.
My first thoughts are the same, but actually how good is McBean proven to be in AFL games. His kicking for goal has been shocking, his marking OK. Now he's young sure, but dead set in front and he's missed a few sitters. VFL on the other hand he's a god of football. Has he got mental issues?
Yarran has proven himself kicking goals but also shown some pretty lackluster chasing skills too at AFL level. If you had to pick either one for round 20 you'd pick Yarran for sure but you trade and draft for the upside so hmm Im not sure. ATM Im undecided on that one.
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those talking McBean CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he's 21? talls take time & he's another decent pre season off being ready.
we also going to be talking of trading McKenzie if he doesn't step up & prove himself at AFL level next year.......
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Mental issues. Gee whiz how many games has he played??
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Sacrificing McBean to get Yarran & keep Vickery & Griffiths - "The Richmond Way"
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McBean won't be traded period. Neither will Vickery as he is needed as ruck insurance. Astbury and Griffiths are both likely to be thrown up for trade though for Motlop and Yarran. Club is confident in the development of Elton and McKenzie
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McBean won't be traded period. Neither will Vickery as he is needed as ruck insurance. Astbury and Griffiths are both likely to be thrown up for trade though for Motlop and Yarran. Club is confident in the development of Elton and McKenzie
tyrone probably needed at full forward. As much as hes required as a back up ruck
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I didn't mind Aaron Hall from Gold Coast today. He has pace and runs well. Could be a player if developed properly.
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Chris Yarran may have played last senior game for Blues
Brent Diamond
The Age
August 16, 2015 - 5:41PM
There are growing fears Carlton's talented flanker Chris Yarran may have played his last senior game as a Blue after another disheartening VFL performance, ending with a minor groin concern in the dying stages of the Northern Blues' 45-point loss to Sandringham at IKON Park on Sunday.
With speculation mounting that Yarran has already met Richmond senior club officials about joining the Tigers next season, he did not make much of a case for an AFL recall, with his only genuine highlight being a belated goal early in the final quarter.
It was his second consecutive quiet outing since being dropped by interim Blues coach John Barker for failing to meet team expectations.
The Blues are confident Yarran would be available for selection next week, despite the injury concern.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-may-have-played-last-senior-game-for-blues-20150816-gj09vt.html
Uncertain future
Just where Chris Yarran will play next year continues to be a talking point. Yarran is contracted to the Blues but, as reported by The Footy Show, has met with Richmond and has been linked to Port Adelaide. Yarran is said to just want to concentrate on finishing the year strongly, having been dumped to the VFL last weekend for a second time. That was because of poor form - earlier in the year it was because of tardiness to team meetings. Yarran is also said to have been hit hard by the death of Nic Naitanui's mother, having known the family well. It's understood the Blues have yet to indicate to Yarran whether he is guaranteed of remaining at the rebuilding club.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/pssst-melbourne-take-their-mark-20150814-gizgwl.html
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I didn't mind Aaron Hall from Gold Coast today. He has pace and runs well. Could be a player if developed properly.
steven may...
chappy to the glue factory
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Big Ed confirmed on his breakfast show this morning that we are big time into Treloar
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Big Ed confirmed on his breakfast show this morning that we are big time into Treloar
The Pies are into Treloar just as much. Smokescreens by Ed. Given also we play the Pies this week. Ducks and drakes.
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Could really see Yarran blossoming in our forward line. Bye newy
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Big Ed confirmed on his breakfast show this morning that we are big time into Treloar
The Pies are into Treloar just as much. Smokescreens by Ed. Given also we play the Pies this week. Ducks and drakes.
No doubt, however, clearly they are concerned by our bid for Treloar otherwise if he was 100% confident their would be no need to mention it.
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Yarran is a stuffn yarra.
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Is a Yarran one who comes from the Yarra?
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I don't think I really want a bloke at the club who has a bad attitude like he apparently does.
But then, it's Carlton after all.
Depends on his price IMO...
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Hutchy on Footy Classified tonight claimed Dimma has met with Yarran.
Lyon basically called Hardwick a hypocrite because Dimma said in round 4 (in relation to Rance) that it's inappropriate for other clubs to contact opposition players outside the trade/FA period. Caro said it's different because it's round 20; not round 4, and Yarran is being shopped around by Carlton because they don't want him anymore. Hutchy defended Dimma by saying Hardwick said it shouldn't happen but it does. He's not going to jeopardise Richmond's chances just to be seen to stick to what he said back in round 4.
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Apparently Scharenberg is still yet to re-sign with Collingwood. Probably more likely to go back to SA though.
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Be over the moon with Yarran & Motlop.
3rd round pick & Astbury for Yarran
Motlop for our 1st pick then throw in Hampson
HF Motlop Griffiths Deledio
FF Reiwoldt Vickery Yarran
Martin, Edwards, Cotchin rotating (wow)
20 goals plus a week there my friends.
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Treloar, Motlop and Yarran added . . . :shh
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http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/matthew-scharenberg-could-stay-at-collingwood-despite-trade-rumours/story-fni5f6hd-1227490407982
At least we will have yarran :rollin :rollin :rollin
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How's Jack Trengove looking?
Isn't he out of contract? Is he compleatly stuffed?
If Knights goes we'll be looking for a consistent injury replacement.
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Whoa sounding a bit bitter and twisted there!
Agree the pressure is on though. Blair and Dan need to deliver this year after donuts over the previous 2.
Yea wish we had of got o rourke or greenwood or Ryder , we stuffed up big time :lol FJ teams is it , we know it , the rest are getting it :shh
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Talking about Yarren on SEN now, apparently its a done deal!!
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Also talking about Treloar going to the Pies, if we need one player its Treloar, never mind the dregs in Yarren, MUST TRY FOR TRELOAR!!!
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get danger or trelor first
when was the last time we got a 'big fish'? 1876?
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get danger or trelor first
when was the last time we got a 'big fish'? 1876?
Danger wants to live down Geelong way. Treloar is being offered a retirement package by Eddie (work post football) ;D!
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Carlton fans calling in saying they cant wait to get rid of Yarren....FFS, we don't need this guy!!!
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get danger or trelor first
when was the last time we got a 'big fish'? 1876?
Danger wants to live down Geelong way. Treloar is being offered a retirement package by Eddie (work post football) ;D!
buy him a dam helicopter then
(http://www.2gb.com/sites/default/files/field/image/20150730/bbishop.jpg)
and he can live in jan jac
Carlton fans calling in saying they cant wait to get rid of Yarren....FFS, we don't need this guy!!!
but then again carlton fans are fairly stupid
im not the biggest yarren fan in the world but he consistently rips richmond. Not that is much of an achievement
he'd offer
- more skills forward than morris or newman...
- hed be less squibby than houli, i think.
- better than grigg... by a fair margin
In talent alone i think he'd be in the best 18/22 - that said id prefer motlop
didnt get judd, didnt get lockett... time to do something :pray
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Carlton fans calling in saying they cant wait to get rid of Yarren....FFS, we don't need this guy!!!
We'd be saying the same thing if a player wanted to leave. :whistle
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Carlton fans calling in saying they cant wait to get rid of Yarren....FFS, we don't need this guy!!!
We'd be saying the same thing if a player wanted to leave. :whistle
If it was Morris or Batch... :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
So no, not really.
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How's Jack Trengove looking?
Isn't he out of contract? Is he compleatly stuffed?
If Knights goes we'll be looking for a consistent injury replacement.
i would rookie
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God, now they are saying that Yarren will cost us our first round pick, bloody crap!!!
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God, now they are saying that Yarren will cost us our first round pick, bloody crap!!!
:o
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If we get Yarran he has to come cheap.
2nd round pick tops, and less than $450k/year.
Otherwise I don't want him TBH. Has never played to his alleged potential.
Better off throwing the sink at Dangerfield. Then look at the likes of Treloar, Coniglio/Prestia (which ever one hasn't signed I can't remember). Carlisle or Henderson would be nice too as Chaplin is well into the twilight...
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You can't claim you don't want someone/can't wait for them to leave and then demand top dollar. Idiocy of the highest order. Can't be paying overs for Yarran though. What's his F/A status, thought he would have been restricted...
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Also talking about Treloar going to the Pies, if we need one player its Treloar, never mind the dregs in Yarren, MUST TRY FOR TRELOAR!!!
Hello we have, we are? Been well reported but if the kid choses the Pies and they can do a trade (1st round pick) he will go there
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Also talking about Treloar going to the Pies, if we need one player its Treloar, never mind the dregs in Yarren, MUST TRY FOR TRELOAR!!!
Hello we have, we are? Been well reported but if the kid choses the Pies and they can do a trade (1st round pick) he will go there
Sorry, let me rephrase; WE MUST GET HIM..we cant let this kid go to the Pies...Give up Ellis and our first rounder.
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God, now they are saying that Yarren will cost us our first round pick, bloody crap!!!
Chill WAT, just chill ;D
2 round pick and perhaps a player
You can't claim you don't want someone/can't wait for them to leave and then demand top dollar. Idiocy of the highest order. Can't be paying overs for Yarran though. What's his F/A status, thought he would have been restricted...
Yarran is contracted for 2016.
He will be cheap because the Blues want him goneskis
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I'd still rather not pay 650k plus for treloar. if he wants more than that then id be happy to not get him. would rather get yarren and motlop.
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Also talking about Treloar going to the Pies, if we need one player its Treloar, never mind the dregs in Yarren, MUST TRY FOR TRELOAR!!!
Hello we have, we are? Been well reported but if the kid choses the Pies and they can do a trade (1st round pick) he will go there
Sorry, let me rephrase; WE MUST GET HIM..we cant let this kid go to the Pies...Give up Ellis and our first rounder.
even taking out the fact the kid supposedly wants to the go the Pies.
He will get traded to the side that offers the Giants the best deal and in that regard the Pies stump us because their 1st rounder is alot earlier than ours.
Draft depth isn't great this year so any team that can offer a pick in the top 10-12 will out bid us
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I'd still rather not pay 650k plus for treloar. if he wants more than that then id be happy to not get him. would rather get yarren and motlop.
Treloar should be our primary target. 850k is the mark if sources are to be believed. I'd be happy for the club to go ahead with that. He's a jet, we need him!
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God, now they are saying that Yarren will cost us our first round pick, bloody crap!!!
Chill WAT, just chill ;D
2 round pick and perhaps a player
You can't claim you don't want someone/can't wait for them to leave and then demand top dollar. Idiocy of the highest order. Can't be paying overs for Yarran though. What's his F/A status, thought he would have been restricted...
Yarran is contracted for 2016.
He will be cheap because the Blues want him goneskis
Won't be that cheap. Maybe 2nd rounder 2015/16 and 2nd rounder 2016/17 was the thinking the club may pursue.....
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Jon Ralph on SEN said Yarran for Richmond's first round pick. Currently pick 13 but with all the compensation picks added to clubs below us, it may end up pick 18/19.
There's also rumours that Yarran may end up back home in WA at West Coast.
Ralph also said Richmond should be going after Motlop as he is more suited to our needs.
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Tigers won't deny interest in Yarran
Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
August 20, 2015 11:27 AM
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has not denied the club's interest in trading for Carlton speedster Chris Yarran.
It has been reported that the out-of-favour Blue has met with senior Richmond officials about the possibility of a move after a disappointing season at Carlton.
Yarran, who is contracted to the Blues until the end of next season, has not played senior football since being dropped for the club's clash with Collingwood in round 19.
"We'll certainly look to improve our list any way possible, whether it's Chris or other players, we'll be looking at those avenues," Hardwick said on Thursday.
"That's something we'll remain pretty tight-lipped about and we'll just do our due diligence and improve our list at the appropriate time."
The Blues have already parted ways with swingman Lachie Henderson, who is likely bound for Geelong after he requested a trade from the club.
Hardwick said the situation of players moving clubs before the official trade period kicked in was becoming more commonplace.
"To be perfectly honest it probably happens anyway," Hardwick said.
"Some of the trades we're seeing at the moment are well and truly in place, and that's something that our game is starting to become accustomed to.
"It's probably not common knowledge, but I think the majority of trades are done leading up to the trade period and we sit around for two weeks twiddling our thumbs."
Hardwick said player movement was a positive thing for the competition.
"For clubs down the bottom to attract talent it's good for the equalisation of the competition," Hardwick said.
"It's something that will become more prevalent, particularly with the trading of future draft picks it will open up future markets and allow trades to happen a lot easier, which is a good thing for the game."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-20/tigers-wont-deny-interest-in-yarran
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
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Jon Ralph on SEN said Yarran for Richmond's first round pick. Currently pick 13 but with all the compensation picks added to clubs below us, it may end up pick 18/19.
There's also rumours that Yarran may end up back home in WA at West Coast.
Ralph also said Richmond should be going after Motlop as he is more suited to our needs.
They owe us a 2nd rounder from the Hampson deal, maybe we can remind them of that.....
I don't know if I want Yarran for a first rounder, 2nd rounder and a player maybe?
I'd prefer Motlop, agree with Ralph.
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I think people are underestimating how big trading future picks will be
Also talking about Treloar going to the Pies, if we need one player its Treloar, never mind the dregs in Yarren, MUST TRY FOR TRELOAR!!!
Hello we have, we are? Been well reported but if the kid choses the Pies and they can do a trade (1st round pick) he will go there
Sorry, let me rephrase; WE MUST GET HIM..we cant let this kid go to the Pies...Give up Ellis and our first rounder.
agree if we dont get danger must get trelor
we have traded drafted enough b and c graders need top shelf now
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I'd still rather not pay 650k plus for treloar. if he wants more than that then id be happy to not get him. would rather get yarren and motlop.
why not?
Another top tier talent is always welcome. Id rather him than three or four more average ones
its not every day the so called "best player in league u22" is uo for grabs
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
correct
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All rumour, innuendo,supposition, smoke and mirrors at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if the Yarran talk is a smokescreen.
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
Fits the mold of our recruits from other clubs.. Disenfranchised, unfulfilled talent. I would not want to risk much on him though.
Our first for Yarran and their second? Its a drop of ten spots i guess.
Maybe Astbury and a second?
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If yarrans head is in the right place then a 2-3rd rounder would be a goer for people saying 1st rd please ur kidding.... Id prefer a motlop who can kick goes and goes on ball but im thinking hell probably stay at geelong depending on what they get as he hasn't signed and rumours have always linked him to part f the danger deal...
when we mention yarran you look at our list he is better then - Gordon, Pettard, lloyd, mcdonaghue certainky adds more toughness then them and as well as rookies Arnott,thomas :thumbsup :thumbsup
GO U TIGERS
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Why the hell would you chase Yarran when we already had a lightning quick wingman in Matt White? And Whitey would have died for the club, AND cost a lot less.
Don't think Yarran would offer us more than he did tbh.
Dangerfield should be priority, followed by Treloar. Motlop also. And I'd fancy a shot at Carlisle and Henderson. We desperately need another KPP at both ends. Jack is crying out for another F50 target to help him share the load - Griff looks like he has gone backwards and Vickery is still a cameo king. Rance will need help when Chaplin retires (probably 2016 his last season? Old and slow).
Honestly if Danger will cost us $800k-1million/year I'd rather have two of either Motlop, Carlisle and Henderson. All 3 would be fantastic once you look at funds freed up by Newman, Foley and presumably Petterd (surely can't keep him).
Would make both our F50 and D50 look a lot more stable.
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Agree Houli is better than Yarran but Yarran is a forward plain and simple.
I will almost put money on the fact that Yarran will kick 40-50 goals for us playing deep forward
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I'd certainly look at Henderson
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Agree Houli is better than Yarran but Yarran is a forward plain and simple.
I will almost put money on the fact that Yarran will kick 40-50 goals for us playing deep forward
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
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Agree Houli is better than Yarran but Yarran is a forward plain and simple.
I will almost put money on the fact that Yarran will kick 40-50 goals for us playing deep forward
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
The only consistent footy he has played has been off the half back line...
I actually think Yarran could be a big asset for a team. However, i don't think that team is us. The way he plays doesn't fit the mould of our defensive unit. The only role i could see him playing is that of Houli's and I'd say at this point of their careers Houli is the superior player.
We're no shot with Dangerfield. Would love Treloar but i fear Collingwood has all but snapped him up. Wouldn't be surprised if Motlop ended up staying at the cattery. Carlisle has potential but clearly has issues upstairs and plays he's best footy as a KPD which isn't our most pressing need. WB or Carlton will over pay him. Henderson is grossly overrated and a massive pea heart. Want nothing to do with him.
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
Yep, that's enough for me!!!
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wouldnt Motlop look in tiger colours
:thumbsup
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didnt get judd, didnt get lockett... time to do something :pray
Yes, because those 2 recruiting coups both paid off in cups didn't they.
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
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I would make Carlisle the No 1 target now. Chaplin is done bring in Carlisle now and he and Rance can run the backline for years and we wont have any problems.
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i wouldn't touch Carlisle until the wada crap is finished.
The possibility of a two year ban is there.
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he would still only be 25 by the time a possible ban is finished. Theres a decent chance they will get off anyway.
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yeah, but what do you give up for a bloke who may not be able to play for two years? There is also no guarantee he, or any other player, would even want to come back after a two year ban.
I doubt wada would have stepped in unless they were very confident they could get a result.
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As mentioned in the other thread, Carlisle supposedly wants $750k p.a.
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According to Greg Denham Yarran is all but signed sealed delivered to be at tigerland next year. Better get used to the idea of him playing for us 2016. :cheers
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
well said cranny, pretty much summises what I wanted to say.
I will throw in this though, we still have 3 games to go in the H&A series plus finals we're really not going to know who the club is going for until the wash up of the trade period.
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3 home and away games plus finals?
I'll try, 3 home and away games and, if good enough, plus finals.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
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Fjs team sat at the bar chortleing at the frenzy over o rourke, Ryder and greenwood. We were then in the box seat to dip into one of the richest drafts of recent times and stack our nursery of talent. The RFC have aced it ,,,,,,again :clapping
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
:clapping
I don't agree with everything Hartley and Co. have done but throwing ridiculous amounts of money at FA isn't the path to success.
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What are people's thoughts on Jack Redden? Appears to be keen to leave Brisbane so we could hopefully get him cheap. I've always liked him and i think that his pressure/ inside mid game is something we really need.
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What are people's thoughts on Jack Redden? Appears to be keen to leave Brisbane so we could hopefully get him cheap. I've always liked him and i think that his pressure/ inside mid game is something we really need.
I have never thought of him as an overly damaging player. Having said that, he brings some grunt to the table. We have some offensive weapons to surround him with. Still young, 24.
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There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
great post
Agree with most of it, especially the bit about Motlop. Not sure he's worth our first round pick. I'm always a little apprehensive when you take a player out of the really good side. Is he is actually as good as he appears in that side. Geelong are no longer the side they were and this has shown that someof their 2nd tier blokes aren't as good as what people thought. Concerned Motlop maybe one of those types
Would just add that Carlton want Yarran gone as much I reckon he wants out
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What are people's thoughts on Jack Redden? Appears to be keen to leave Brisbane so we could hopefully get him cheap. I've always liked him and i think that his pressure/ inside mid game is something we really need.
I have never thought of him as an overly damaging player. Having said that, he brings some grunt to the table. We have some offensive weapons to surround him with. Still young, 24.
Yeah he's not going to tear a game apart but like Miles put him in a decent midfield and he will go in and do the hard stuff and get the ball out to the likes of Martin, Lids etc. Would also be our be our most prolific tackler if given decent time in the guts.
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The nature of player relations and their relationship with clubs has changed drastically since the incorporation of the newer clubs and the introduction of Free Agency. However, there's a cultural shift that may take decades to catch up with the fiscal side to it, which is to say players wanting to be compensated with market determinants and the notion of the (now antiquated) club loyalties.
Is it fair to judge a player for wanting maximum compensation, and expecting them to take unders for the sake of club loyalty? Fact is, most players ultimately want premiership success and this directly conflicts with wanting reasonable and fair wages. If every player gets their market value, teams can't hold onto premiership winning lists. I'd say a majority of the players on Hawthorn and Sydneys lists are getting paid unders.
As this pertains to the current players available, you have to pay overs to get a player to come across from another side. In all honesty there must be a significant minority of players who arn't totally happy with their clubs but unless they're offered big pay packets or a genuine shot at a flag before they're too old; can't really justify shifting teams. That's why the Henderson and Carlisle statements are so significant. They just want out, plain and simple, and this goes against 100 years of the previous norms. I'm sure there are historically plenty of examples of this, but I'd say they're anomalies that prove the culture of club loyalty.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
couldn't have said it better myself
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
couldn't have said it better myself
agreed. this is why id be happier with motlop and yarren on reasonable money rather than just treloar on 650k plus a year.
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What are people's thoughts on Jack Redden? Appears to be keen to leave Brisbane so we could hopefully get him cheap. I've always liked him and i think that his pressure/ inside mid game is something we really need.
Very underrated player. Would love him at Richmond but can't see him coming cheap.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
couldn't have said it better myself
agreed. this is why id be happier with motlop and yarren on reasonable money rather than just treloar on 650k plus a year.
Motlop apparently wants the $$$ you just mentioned 6/70k that's why it's a no from me.
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.
They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Exactly!!!!!!! Look at what they got in return...... So far.
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see above wat ^^^^
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.
They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.
Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger Carlisle types
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They haven't payed ridiculous amounts of money for those players. Look what's japlened to Sydney. Many criticised them for buying buddy franklin. Damaged their culture greatly
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.
They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.
Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger Carlisle types
maybe not, but it counters your hawthorn example as being an argument for spending a large portion of the cap on a few players.
On which its important to remember it was the loosing of arguably the biggest fish to move ponds since locket, that enabled hawthorn to afford frawley, and keep those important second tier players, while winning another premiership
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Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!
Due diligence eh.
Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25
or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.
or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.
If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.
A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.
correct
is it?
Yarren has played forward a lot in a bad team
In the era of kicking backwards and sideways. I am not convinced possession stats are paramount
The era is also one of tanking. So that should be taken into consideration too
Drummond, Castagna types are a bonus if they make it
I am not sold on yarren. And would prefer him be cheap. But i get the feeling he would be better for us than; hunt / grigg / chaplin / houli. His pace and skill could work well - with our guns inside types. Miles chimp. Martin
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so what would you pay for yarran?
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.
They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.
Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger Carlisle types
I've certainly advocated going after Treloar I'm a big fan. Danger as well though I never though we were a chance. I just think you do so within reason and that successful recruiting isn't defined by signing the most expensive player.
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Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery
Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc
hawthorn bought in a number of guns
Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.
They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.
Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger Carlisle types
I've certainly advocated going after Treloar I'm a big fan. Danger as well though I never though we were a chance. I just think you do so within reason and that successful recruiting isn't defined by signing the most expensive player.
id think many of dynasties in more recent times have had fair 'reinforcement' from elsewhere which has added to the list core.
- Geelong were lucky with the soft father/sun rules but ottens was handy. Fitted in a treat.
- brisbane got head start by eating fitzory.
- Sydney have a stream of recycling coming in. You could argue; as a result of tippet and Franklin. They could be a rough chance - at worst for a flag every year. At least for the medium term. High risk but high reward
Richmond have done things within reason for about a decade. There is a good young core. But the team still asks too much from too few on game day. It is good to improve the bottom six slowly with corey ellis and lennon types. But the premiership window wont be open forever. Nor will Maric and lids be
You can only play 18, all the contracts are locked in. Why not throw the kitchen sink at the biggest fish now? In a similar way to sydney or hawks having worked in some players to strengthen areas; trelor or danger, for example, in addition to miles, vlastuin, deledio, martin, cotchin would be formidable.
There was an article saying. For some reason Richmond get an extra ten percent salary cap room. Too. I understand danger is highly unrealistic , yet trelor, bennel. Highly talented types couldnt hurt
as for hawthorn the key defender were somewhat highly rated in the afl community. Lake/harris, Frawley, gibson prior to moving.
Hale. Mcvoey. Gunston were not stars but still quite young and on the verge of improving. Perhaps like trelor, bennel, Carlisle
Burgoyne is silk. Anderson I like from the little ive seen. Would be handy here. Orourke, not many top3 picks fail these days. A player of that potential would keep the other player on toes
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so what would you pay for yarran?
grigg and 2016 draft pick, non first round
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Agree Houli is better than Yarran but Yarran is a forward plain and simple.
I will almost put money on the fact that Yarran will kick 40-50 goals for us playing deep forward
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
if yarren plays for richmond
and is played as a forward
I think its possible he kicks on average two goals a game
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so what would you pay for yarran?
grigg and 2016 draft pick, non first round
not much then?
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Good call on SEN just now... Yarran needs to get himself right with himself before we start saying what club is right for him, also said a bad fit for the RFC...
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Good call on SEN just now... Yarran needs to get himself right with himself before we start saying what club is right for him, also said a bad fit for the RFC...
2/3 of the panel said it was a good idea. Only Robbo didbt like it.
Kings and Derm said he'd be a good fit
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NO to Yarran.
Motlop, Danger, Treloar...use the massive war chest we have apparently built.. :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Yes to Yarran for mine. Get a bloke with his talent to a solid, grounded club (like we are at the moment) and we'll get the best out of him. He's a jet!
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Yes to Yarran for mine. Get a bloke with his talent to a solid, grounded club (like we are at the moment) and we'll get the best out of him. He's a jet!
Are you in the clean syringe line???
He is so talented he is in the seconds and doing nothing there..
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Well Treloar, when you get home watch the replay of todays game and make your mind up where the success lies.... :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Well Treloar, when you get home watch the replay of todays game and make your mind up where the success lies.... :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
That's a very good point. One that Dangerfield should also consider. Geelong are done and dusted for premierships for a while. We are on the verge. This is the closest weve been since the early 80s.
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Well Treloar, when you get home watch the replay of todays game and make your mind up where the success lies.... :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
:clapping
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Yes to Yarran for mine. Get a bloke with his talent to a solid, grounded club (like we are at the moment) and we'll get the best out of him. He's a jet!
Are you in the clean syringe line???
He is so talented he is in the seconds and doing nothing there..
Odd thing to say considering we know its purely for disciplinary reasons he's in the twos. Considered to be the most talented player at Carlton by most pundits. Like I said, its all upstairs with Yarran. A great skipper and solid culture will turn this guy around. Watch this space!
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
Um no, soundly beat Cotchin today did Levi.......
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Treloar and Motlop now wouldn't that be fantastic. :thumbsup
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If Treloar is picking between Collingwood and us, then today's match should make that decision easier for him :shh
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Treloar and Motlop now wouldn't that be fantastic. :thumbsup
Would be the cherry on top of the cake :pray
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Well Treloar, when you get home watch the replay of todays game and make your mind up where the success lies.... :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
Hope Danger watched us and then caught the Geelong score too ;D
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
Um no, soundly beat Cotchin today did Levi.......
So you'd be happy to pay 650K a year for a tager to play 6 games a season then?
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Motlop almost single-handedly got a poor Geelong over the line last night. I don't remember Yarran playing well in a poor/losing side. That's why I prefer we go after Motlop.
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Treloar and Motlop now wouldn't that be fantastic. :thumbsup
:thumbsup
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
Um no, soundly beat Cotchin today did Levi.......
So you'd be happy to pay 650K a year for a tager to play 6 games a season then?
Did I say that, your call was very early and wrong.
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I am not sure why the RFC continue to recruit these fringe type of players rather than throw the bank at a star or a potential star the likes of Treloar and move heaven and earth to get them. Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton, Brisbane...the list goes on, they all do it.
We pick up serviceable players like Houli, Grigg...well thats it.
The RFC came out earlier this year, in particular Brendon Gale saying that we have been preparing our cap for this trade/FA period. Clearing it for who, Yarren...REALLY??????
Motlop, Dangerfield or Treloar to the club or FAIL!!
You want to follow the example of Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane?? None are playing finals. Collingwood has lost the equivilant of Deledio, Edwards and Martin in the last three years- they have silly amounts of money.
We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players. I get that they aren't stars, but they have made us a better team.
We haven't lost a single star, because they have bought in on the whole being greater than the self.
Name a club that has thrown the bank at someone and won a premiership in the modern era?!
We have been linked to a number of players, the general feel is that they are trying very very hard to attract these guys and not pay overs. Like Hawthorn have done. I imagine we can get some like Treloar- pay him a million dollars a year. What happens when Ellis, Vlastuin Miles start looking for money?
We need sustained success, not this "get one player and we will be a contender" mantra.
Also give the club some credit- Rebuilt the list in perhaps the most difficult era. We are about to play our third finals series in row.
Ok, they attract star players, that is what I meant, get with the program. When they see a player that is a star and they want them, they get them. That's what I meant. We don't do that.
"We have picked up Chaplin, Houli, Grigg & Maric. All best 22 players" And that sums it up for me.
Those clubs aren't any more attractive than us, they are just willing to pay more. To me that is more concerning than not getting players. I'm not sure how old you are but the modern game doesn't allow for stupidly overpaying for people. You lose to much @ the bottom end.
For those four players we gave up a total Andy Collins (delisted) and a second round draft pick. I think a lot of people under sell what the club managed to achieve.
Everyone ridiculed the club for not being active last year, but the draftees coming through look really good.
They obviously are more attractive because that is where the best are going, its not always about the money. I'm old enough to know the mistakes and missed opportunities we have had over the past 30 years.
We also gave up pick 19 for Sanchez a while ago to, remember that.
Its not the draftees I m talking about, its the FA and trade players we need.
There are only three reasons a player in this day and age move clubs and that's for either family, Money or Success. On the success side of things well I completely understand why no one has come across for this reason! On the money side of things we've been saying now for a couple of seasons we have a war chest for a big fish but in all honesty what "Big Fish" has there been?
On the free agency side of things there has only realy been Frawley and Greenwood.
Frawley took the best of both worlds taking a good lump sum and went to a successful club while Greenwood was just in it for the money. We did put an offer to Greenwood but it Collingwood out trumped us, after the season he's had it looks like it was a win to us anyway.
This year we have Dangerfield and Trelour, Dangerfield looks set to head to Geelong for family reasons in saying that I do believe we had a fair crack, if for what ever reason he decides to change his mind we will be up to our necks in it.
The other player is Trelour whom we have made fairly public that were right into, has he chosen a side yet? Nothing is conccreat our offer is out there and it's up there with Collingwoods, I think this deal will realy come down to which club can satisfy GWS the most with the trade.
Then you have your second tier trades, Yarran, Motlop, Henderson, Carlisle.
Yarran just wants out, I think he would walk to us tomorrow if he could, the problem will be what carlton want in return and there should be no way in the world that we would consider our first round pick for him.
Motlop is an interesting one, does he realy want to leave or is he just trying to score himself a better contract where he is?? If he wants to go it will be for money and I believe we would be in the box seat here, he would cost us our first round pick though and again I'm not 100% certain he's worth it.
The other two bafoons are chasing cash, Gerlong want Henderson and he wants to go there, I have no issue in not pursuing him. Carlisle on the other hand seems to just want out.
I find it interesting he wants out of Essendon but wants to go to Carlton?
Either Carlton has tabled a huge offer or the guy has rocks in his head! It's ceryainly a trade to watch closely imo.
Um no, soundly beat Cotchin today did Levi.......
So you'd be happy to pay 650K a year for a tager to play 6 games a season then?
Did I say that, your call was very early and wrong.
Hang on, what are you exactly trying to say??
You highlighted the part where I said it looks like we dodged a bullet in not getting Greenwood last year.
Then you said because he kept Cotchin quiet yesterday I am wrong?
But then you said you didn't say you wanted Greenwood???
Can you please explain what your trying to say here please.
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For the love of all things bandwidth, will someone please edit their quoted reply! :propeller :propeller :propeller
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Listening to benny gale on radio prepare he said he feels we're well placed with KP talent but you can never have enough goal kicking midfielders.
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For the love of all things bandwidth, will someone please edit their quoted reply! :propeller :propeller :propeller
there's no need quote the post when you reply immediately after it
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
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Er, you didn't.
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It's an online forum, everyone is talking to everyone
Now answer the question
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It's an online forum, everyone is talking to everyone
Now answer the question
:clapping
Cmon Wat
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We can't get every player that ever goes onto the market, fact is if a quality player is known to be interested in changing clubs, for whatever reason, then 17 other clubs are going to go after that individual.
I'd agree with an earlier post, players will change teams for essentially those three reasons; Family (location), success and money. We're a Melbourne team and doing our best impression of a "power-club", we have resources at the moment and there's talk of room in the cap for a big name (war-chest). So far I'd say we're ticking all the boxes for a potential "big-fish". So in my book, if we don't land one this off season or next, which is our window, then we've failed.
How many 'big fish' are up for grabs at the moment? Probably 3-4. Dangerfield, Treloar, Henderson and Carlisle. Am I missing anyone? I'd be pretty confident we'd have gone for Danger and Treloar, which exactly fit what we need, midfield running types that essentially upgrade from what we have out there at the moment.
I'd also agree Yarran is a tier down from those "big fish", but see incredible potential, he can be as good as any of those other guys. He's just more of a gamble. But I think we're in a position to get a guy like him across and can afford to lose on him if it pans out that way. First round pick is overs for him in my book.
Ideally I'd take Treloar, I think he slots in perfectly to our team, another quality inside mid gives us the strongest midfield in the game, of that I'm sure.
Dangerfield would be incredible obviously, but I don't see it happening. We should still be giving it our best shot. Until he directly tells us to stuff off I'd be in his ear.
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3aw today claimed Treloar's management has already told Collingwood that they are his preferred club and it's only a matter of getting a deal done.
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GEELONG utility Mark Blicavs says he's confident Steven Motlop will sign a new deal to stay at the Cats.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-23/i-think-he-will-blicavs-says-star-cat-motlop-will-commit
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oh well looks like its back to "money ball" recruiting for us
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boooooo
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So as we have done in the past, the cream has gone and we will be left with the crap like Yarran. Just like the crap we have with Morris & Batch...War chest to use LMFAO...... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
The RFC couldn't attract flies with a load of manure outside the club......again.... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
Sorry I just read back through all the posts and couldn't find your answer??
Could you please re quote it or just admit your wrong.
Thanks
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
Sorry I just read back through all the posts and couldn't find your answer??
Could you please re quote it or just admit your wrong.
Thanks
Go have a lay down. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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Everyone must remember WAT from his ping pong world championship days (real name is Maxim Shmyrev). He is proving to still have his amazing deflection skills
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Everyone must remember WAT from his ping pong world championship days (real name is Maxim Shmyrev). He is proving to still have his amazing deflection skills
Think I saw him play in a tournament in Thailand.... :huh3
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Never watched any of WATs other ping pong shows so I couldn't tell you
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Why the F would Treloar want to go to Collingwood? Unless they're offering him stupid amounts of money??
Beggars belief.
C'mon Tiges, throw the sink already. Success beckons...
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We are very quiet on Dangerfield. I'm expecting to come from left field and it may be Dangerfield.
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
Sorry I just read back through all the posts and couldn't find your answer??
Could you please re quote it or just admit your wrong.
Thanks
Go have a lay down. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
So your officialy going on record in saying the You would have been happy to pay Greenwood $650k a year to get him to the club.
Thanks for confirming this .
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apparently Buckley coached Treloar in the under 16 somewhere, they have kept in touch ever since - Adams was part of that same group and was the main reason why he chose Collingwood, treloar to follow suit
Id rather motlop anyhow
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So as we have done in the past, the cream has gone and we will be left with the crap like Yarran. Just like the crap we have with Morris & Batch...War chest to use LMFAO...... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
The RFC couldn't attract flies with a load of manure outside the club......again.... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Unfortunately we attract a fair portion of f***head so called supporters though
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apparently Buckley coached Treloar in the under 16 somewhere, they have kept in touch ever since - Adams was part of that same group and was the main reason why he chose Collingwood, treloar to follow suit
Id rather motlop anyhow
why is that tony?
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I agree with Richo and others here that Motlop should be the priority.
A goal kicking ball winning tackling machine that has the X factor too. Id give him good money that Geelong can't afford & a 5 year deal.
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
Sorry I just read back through all the posts and couldn't find your answer??
Could you please re quote it or just admit your wrong.
Thanks
Go have a lay down. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
So your officialy going on record in saying the You would have been happy to pay Greenwood $650k a year to get him to the club.
Thanks for confirming this .
Greenwood isn't on $650k he's on about $450k. North were only offering him $300-350k and upped it a bit but obviously nowhere near what other clubs were offering.
If he hadn't broken his ankle we wouldn't be having this conversation. Bloke can play. Laid 10 tackles, blanketed Cotchin. Good inside mid when he has fitness.
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apparently Buckley coached Treloar in the under 16 somewhere, they have kept in touch ever since - Adams was part of that same group and was the main reason why he chose Collingwood, treloar to follow suit
:facepalm
Id rather motlop anyhow
:facepalm
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Is there any chance we can somehow get Stringer to Richmond and not have him break his leg?
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apparently Buckley coached Treloar in the under 16 somewhere, they have kept in touch ever since - Adams was part of that same group and was the main reason why he chose Collingwood, treloar to follow suit
:facepalm
Id rather motlop anyhow
:facepalm
oh great for them, they can all get together and play soggy biscuit at pie land
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You are hard work LT, your wife must love your over analysing... :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
Nice deflection WAT, can you just answer the question please.
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I did.
Sorry I just read back through all the posts and couldn't find your answer??
Could you please re quote it or just admit your wrong.
Thanks
Go have a lay down. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
So your officialy going on record in saying the You would have been happy to pay Greenwood $650k a year to get him to the club.
Thanks for confirming this .
Greenwood isn't on $650k he's on about $450k. North were only offering him $300-350k and upped it a bit but obviously nowhere near what other clubs were offering.
If he hadn't broken his ankle we wouldn't be having this conversation. Bloke can play. Laid 10 tackles, blanketed Cotchin. Good inside mid when he has fitness.
and if Nathan Brown hadn't broken his leg we may have won a premiership, same thing isn't it?
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^ certainly wouldn't have hurt our chances.
Him breaking his leg sure did.
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http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-richmond-tigers--nathan-g--brown?year=2005
>:(
(http://j2collections.synthasite.com/resources/Football/Batman-and-Robin-Brown--Richo.jpg)
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Jeez the Dees are a pathetic footy club.
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Jeez the Dees are a pathetic footy club.
Yep they can't win the wooden spoon but geez they deserve it
But not the 1st rd pick that comes with it
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Jeez the Dees are a pathetic footy club.
Yep they can't win the wooden spoon but geez they deserve it
But not the 1st rd pick that comes with it
Lets hope from now on in we can show them ourselves how pathetic they are when we play them instead of handing the four points to them in a game they exhibit something that resembles a footy team showing passion to win only for them to play pathetic, diabolical, disinterested footy for most of the remainder of the year whilst we conjure up our worst effort of the year against them. How handy would the four points from round 4 be now or even the four points from last year :help
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You guys just don't get it. Tanking is the way to go and the Dees are the proof in the eating.
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I pointed out the Dees because that link shows that they smashed us in rd 10, 2005 only to do nothing of significance that year.
Once again this year and last they play their best game against us and deliver crap for the remainder of the year.
Don't forget they beat Geelong too, and not just fell in. They controlled that game from start to finish.
Once again opposition milestone game.
Like n0rf they take more pride in spoiling an oppositions milestone game than winning for building positive culture.
Vindictive spineless club. Supporters are as limp as it gets too
And before I forget and I'm happy to be proven wrong.....
have a look at the replay of tigers vs Dees and then Dees vs pies, captains shaking hands.
Nathan Jones shows absolutely no respect towards Cotch and doesn't look him in the eye whilst shaking hands besides his bad body language whereas against pies he looks Pendle in the eye and shakes hands proper.
Just shows how much contempt those saps have for us.
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Melbourne are an irrelevant club without supporters or a reason to exist beyond just having the name Melbourne. They are useless in this competition. The AFL should send them to Tasmania as a half and half state team and call them the Tasmanian Devils.
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if browns leg didnt snap in 9 places we would of won that game by 10 goals
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Wouldn't Patrick look great in tiger colours next year :thumbsup
The bank vault is open
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Wouldn't Patrick look great in tiger colours next year :thumbsup
The bank vault is open
Its borderline arousing. Just throw the kitchen sink at him.
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AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said he didn’t liked Lachie Henderson’s announcement before the end of the season — labelling it “unnecessary” and “undisciplined” — but Ms Henderson was critical of the league chief.
::)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gillon-mclachlan-labels-lachie-hendersons-trade-request-as-undisciplined-and-unnecessary/story-e6frf3e3-1227492779415
"I think it was completely and utterly out of line to make a comment like that,” she said.
:clapping
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-22/mum-blasts-blues-afl
Wouldn't Patrick look great in tiger colours next year :thumbsup
The bank vault is open
Its borderline arousing. Just throw the kitchen sink at him.
borderline?
if buddy is worth 10 million danger is worth 15 ....
do it tigers be BOLD
danger, miles, vlastuin, martin, lids, chimp = :o
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AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said he didn’t liked Lachie Henderson’s announcement before the end of the season — labelling it “unnecessary” and “undisciplined” — but Ms Henderson was critical of the league chief.
::)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gillon-mclachlan-labels-lachie-hendersons-trade-request-as-undisciplined-and-unnecessary/story-e6frf3e3-1227492779415
"I think it was completely and utterly out of line to make a comment like that,” she said.
:clapping
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-22/mum-blasts-blues-afl
Wouldn't Patrick look great in tiger colours next year :thumbsup
The bank vault is open
Its borderline arousing. Just throw the kitchen sink at him.
borderline?
if buddy is worth 10 million danger is worth 15 ....
do it tigers be BOLD
danger, miles, vlastuin, martin, lids, chimp = :o
Offer a 10 year $15 mill contract? Its like extended warranty, the future us have to worry about it. I want my bigscreen tv (with dange in a tigers jumper on it) NOW!
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AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said he didn’t liked Lachie Henderson’s announcement before the end of the season — labelling it “unnecessary” and “undisciplined” — but Ms Henderson was critical of the league chief.
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gillon-mclachlan-labels-lachie-hendersons-trade-request-as-undisciplined-and-unnecessary/story-e6frf3e3-1227492779415
"I think it was completely and utterly out of line to make a comment like that,” she said.
:clapping
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-22/mum-blasts-blues-afl
Wouldn't Patrick look great in tiger colours next year :thumbsup
The bank vault is open
Its borderline arousing. Just throw the kitchen sink at him.
borderline?
if buddy is worth 10 million danger is worth 15 ....
do it tigers be BOLD
danger, miles, vlastuin, martin, lids, chimp = :o
Offer a 10 year $15 mill contract? Its like extended warranty, the future us have to worry about it. I want my bigscreen tv (with dange in a tigers jumper on it) NOW!
And a helicopter so he can live in whatever geelong suburb he wants !
dangerfield to richmond would be bigger than judd to carlton
be brave tigers :pray
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if browns leg didnt snap in 9 places we would of won that game by 10 goals
we were getting hammered in that game well before it happened
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if browns leg didnt snap in 9 places we would of won that game by 10 goals
we were getting hammered in that game well before it happened
fair enough
yet brown was going at 3-4 goal per game and 25 odd possession or there about on average. ablett-like... better than fyfe now imho
7-2 going into that game, i think
sliding doors but anything could have happened if the brown / richo combination had stated fit, that season
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
Amen
Without the cap cloggers you could just about have danger and trelor
Newman, Chris
Foley, Nathan
Chaplin, Troy
Knights, Chris
Thomas, Matt
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
Petterd, Ricky
Gordon, Nathan
:whistle
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Still think u missed a few mate Arnott, MCd, Astbury , morris I think there is about 10 on the list but yah cant get rid of them all
Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
Amen
Without the cap cloggers you could just about have danger and trelor
Newman, Chris
Foley, Nathan
Chaplin, Troy
Knights, Chris
Thomas, Matt
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
Petterd, Ricky
Gordon, Nathan
:whistle
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
Amen
Without the cap cloggers you could just about have danger and trelor
Newman, Chris
Foley, Nathan
Chaplin, Troy
Knights, Chris
Thomas, Matt
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
Petterd, Ricky
Gordon, Nathan
:whistle
With Foley and Newy retired, there's only about 2 guys on anything close to decent coin there.
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
Amen
Without the cap cloggers you could just about have danger and trelor
Newman, Chris
Foley, Nathan
Chaplin, Troy
Knights, Chris
Thomas, Matt
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
Petterd, Ricky
Gordon, Nathan
:whistle
With Foley and Newy retired, there's only about 2 guys on anything close to decent coin there.
what are
Chaplin, Troy
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
on?
About one Trelor? :whistle
In we had played our hand a bit better, with less 'cap cloggers' on long term contracts we could have done a lot this offseason
Still think u missed a few mate Arnott, MCd, Astbury , morris I think there is about 10 on the list but yah cant get rid of them all
yeah - i just went with the older ones on the list
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do you agree with you get what u pay for?
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Guess it depends what your definition of 'cap clogger' is. I was referring to guys on more coin than they perhaps deserve. Knights and Chaplin maybe the only two blokes that would be on more than what they give us. I still rate Chaplin as an important part of the team. As for the other names, yes they're probably not AFL standard in the majority, but at the end of the day clubs have x amount of list spots available and have to fill them.
I couldn't see the likes of Hampson or Gordon demanding much cap space.
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We need a new thread for rumours
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We need a new thread for rumours
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22596.0
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy reckons Collingwood have offered Treloar a 6-year deal.
I wonder if the Pies are going to hard for this kid given their position at the moment. Makes sense for us to go hard, last piece of the puzzle, but they've still got a lot of development to go. Cap cloggers don't do any favours to teams in redevelopment.
Amen
Without the cap cloggers you could just about have danger and trelor
Newman, Chris
Foley, Nathan
Chaplin, Troy
Knights, Chris
Thomas, Matt
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
Petterd, Ricky
Gordon, Nathan
:whistle
With Foley and Newy retired, there's only about 2 guys on anything close to decent coin there.
what are
Chaplin, Troy
Hampson, Shaun
Grigg, Shaun
on?
About one Trelor? :whistle
In we had played our hand a bit better, with less 'cap cloggers' on long term contracts we could have done a lot this offseason
Still think u missed a few mate Arnott, MCd, Astbury , morris I think there is about 10 on the list but yah cant get rid of them all
yeah - i just went with the older ones on the list
Correct. Instead the dud Dan the man will be like a desperate bloke at the 11th hour trying to score a rubbish deal to look like his doing something. He will probably go and check out trengrove again or watts
Just about the biggest club in the country and yet the best we can come up with is yarran, Hampson and knights
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We need a new thread for rumours
Thanks but that one is also getting hijacked with irrelevant references
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Who is your club targeting at the trade table?
Staff writers August 26, 2015 7:00 AM
Afl.com.au
RICHMOND
The Tigers only managed to land former Geelong midfielder Taylor Hunt last year after attempts to lure David Armitage and Jack Trengove in the trade period went bust. With their key position stocks relatively solid, they're unlikely to pursue the likes of Lachie Henderson or Jake Carlisle, and they'll again chase midfield depth, speed, half-back talent and possibly a small forward this off-season. Carlton's Chris Yarran, Geelong's Steven Motlop and Greater Western Sydney's Adam Treloar have already been linked to the club, and of those, Yarran seems the most realistic, with the Cats set to fight to keep Motlop, and Treloar seemingly Collingwood-bound. A trade would be needed to secure Yarran given the half-back is contracted until the end of next year. Currency wise, defender David Astbury has played forward at times in the VFL this year and faces a tough battle to break into the senior side if he stays there. He's contracted for another year, but could be keen for more opportunities.
Dream trade: Patrick Dangerfield. The word is he's either staying at Adelaide or going to Geelong but that shouldn't stop Richmond at least asking the question. He'd bring experienced inside hardness to the Tigers and offer them much-needed outside explosive pace, which could be the missing piece after they succeeded in locking away other key figures to long-term deals. - Jennifer Phelan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-26/your-clubs-trade-targets
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We need a new thread for rumours
Thanks but that one is also getting hijacked with irrelevant references
The Robbo sun rumours are so much more thought provoking
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We need a new thread for rumours
Thanks but that one is also getting hijacked with irrelevant references
The Robbo sun rumours are so much more thought provoking
At least he's pretending, let's throw a few he said, she saids out there
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stuffn yarran.
What a Yarra.
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KB :bow trolling SEN listeners by claiming that Treloar has told Richmond they are his club of choice. :shh
Love it when pies supporters ring in :rollin
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KB :bow trolling SEN listeners by claiming that Treloar has told Richmond they are his club of choice. :shh
Love it when pies supporters ring in :rollin
I laughed to, Pies superter " He's locked to us, we've got a top ten pick"
Lmao....
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KB :bow trolling SEN listeners by claiming that Treloar has told Richmond they are his club of choice. :shh
Love it when pies supporters ring in :rollin
If only that were the truth. Still holding out hope!!!
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KB must be due to get one of his whispers and rumours true... Come on KB lets hope its true..... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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KB :bow trolling SEN listeners by claiming that Treloar has told Richmond they are his club of choice. :shh
Love it when pies supporters ring in :rollin
KB :bow
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Definetly struck a nerve
Whilst I won't comment on FB pages, SEN ' s FB page has had some digesting attacks level led at KB :bow
:thumbsdown Wankers
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Kb is god
The bottom feeders can line up and go jump
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Here's the audio of KB saying Treloar's preferred club is Richmond:
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3507642-kb-s-take-adam-treloar-s-preferred-afl-club-is-richmond
Greg Denham also claimed the Yarran deal is done.
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yarran will be in black and yellow just a matter of what we let go or offer to the blues :thumbsup :thumbsup
GO U TIGERS
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Dimma today wouldn't confirm nor deny we were into Treloar, Matty Kreuzer or Stevie Johnson.
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As player movement speculation intensifies, the Tigers have been linked to Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer, Geelong speedster Steven Motlop and Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar.
Hardwick wouldn't be drawn on those players, only saying: "Any player that's going to add to our organisation we'd happily look atm but that's a few months down the track".
He did, however, hint the Tigers could be more active in trade discussions after putting their focus into the draft in 2014, keeping all of their prime selections.
"Last year we obviously wanted to go the draft and we thought that was a very strong draft," he said.
"We were happy with that, but this year the goalposts may have changed. We'll keep that in-house."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-27/tigers-address-onfield-behaviour-after-dustys-twofinger-salute
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stuff off dimmer, u narcissist idiot
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I'm OK with that. He's handled the heat well this year.
I wouldn't like to see the club any more interactive than what they currently are with the media
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KB must be due to get one of his whispers and rumours true... Come on KB lets hope its true..... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
How much would his trolling increase if he proved correct on this :lol
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He's not often wrong :whistle
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Here's the audio of KB saying Treloar's preferred club is Richmond:
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3507642-kb-s-take-adam-treloar-s-preferred-afl-club-is-richmond
Greg Denham also claimed the Yarran deal is done.
really?
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exciting times at Tigerland.
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:gotigers
Whoop woooop!!!!! Premiers 2016!!!!!!
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:gotigers
Whoop woooop!!!!! Premiers 2016!!!!!!
#mcbean2016
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good old KB stirring the pot causing some mischief
:snidegrin
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:gotigers
Whoop woooop!!!!! Premiers 2016!!!!!!
#mcbean2016
#menaduemajik
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good on Dimma for saying nothing about it & not giving our plans away, that would only allow other Clubs to look into the same Players & attempt better deals & given the ladder a few could trump us with better picks.
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How could Collingpoo be Treloar's preferred club after the complete towelling Richmond just gave them? lmao
Window is opening for us. Players wanting success will want to come play in front of the tiger army...
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Lmao Pies supporters ringing in now :lol :lol
Saying because of KB ' S :bow take that the Pies have had emergency meetings and now Dangerfield is back in discussions
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Well KB got himself and the story into the Herald-Sun ...
Adam Treloar wants to play for Richmond next year, says Kevin Bartlett
Herald-Sun
August 27, 2015
COULD Richmond pinch GWS star Adam Treloar from under Collingwood’s nose? Tigers legend Kevin Bartlett says yes.
The Magpies are considered the frontrunners for the prized signature of the gun 22-year-old, who is yet to re-sign with the Giants and is tipped to return home to Melbourne at the end of the season.
Richmond and North Melbourne were also believed to be chasing Treloar, but the Magpies’ lower ladder position means they can offer a higher draft pick to GWS in a trade deal.
But Bartlett says Treloar wants to join the Tigers.
“My understanding is that GWS Giants jet Adam Treloar has told the Tigers that Richmond is his preferred club of choice for 2016 and beyond, not Collingwood,” he said on SEN.
“I’m telling you 100 per cent, Richmond is the club of his choice.”
Richmond has also been linked to Carlton’s Chris Yarran and Geelong’s Steven Motlop, and if Steve Johnson is not offered a new contract by Geelong he has also been thrown up as the final piece in the Tigers’ premiership puzzle.
“As good as Johnson, Yarran and Motlop may be, Treloar is a star and it’s not beyond him to win a Brownlow,” Bartlett said.
“Treloar to Tigerland should have supporters dreaming big, he wants to come, now go and get him.”
Treloar has averaged 27.5 disposals and five tackles a game for the Giants this season.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick refused to buy into the speculation today but he did confirm the Tigers are likely to be active in the trade and free agency market this year.
The club copped some criticism last year when its only acquisition was former Cat Taylor Hunt.
But Richmond now has a war chest to use on another star.
“Last year we obviously wanted to go the draft and we thought that was a very strong draft,” Hardwick said.
“We were happy with that, but this year the goalposts may have changed. We’ll keep that in-house.
“There are always going to be names thrown up, but we keep that pretty tight-lipped within our organisation.
“Any player that would add to our organisation, we would happily look at, but the fact of the matter is that’s a few months down the track.’’
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/adam-treloar-wants-to-play-for-richmond-next-year-says-kevin-bartlett/story-fndv8t7m-1227500973656
(http://s21.postimg.org/7way8f59z/Untitled_2.jpg)
Source: mellowyellow on BF.
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lmao
it's all trash talk until the trade period
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Plough did a great segment this arvo on SEN. The talk is we'd have to give up our first rounder for the next 2 years. So we'd be giving up a Vlastuin and Ellis to get it done. Worth it? IMO yep absolutely, but its a significant sacrifice nonetheless. God I do love the speculative trade period. Get it done tiges!
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Plough did a great segment this arvo on SEN. The talk is we'd have to give up our first rounder for the next 2 years. So we'd be giving up a Vlastuin and Ellis to get it done. Worth it? IMO yep absolutely, but its a significant sacrifice nonetheless. God I do love the speculative trade period. Get it done tiges!
Great way to put it into perspective. The way I look at it is, will our first draft pick this year and next year be crucial pieces in a flag next year or the year after? Unlikely. Will Treloar? Definitely. Then the next argument is do we roll the dice and pay the price now by getting Treloar, or hold on to those picks and use them to build further into the future? We may be out of time with players like Deledio by the time our next couple draft hauls mature enough to play for a premiership.
Winning a flag soon would make us an attractive club like Hawthorn have been to trade in more talent, and it would probably push up the value of our fringe players to trade in players for need or draft picks for later.
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worth it FOR SURE
apparently 2016 is a good draft
so would look to get picks somehow back in the future - worry about it later - once in a generation type stuff ...
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Maric, Ivan 151 29yr 7mth
Deledio, Brett 229 28yr 4mth
Edwards, Shane 165 26yr 10mth
Riewoldt, Jack 177 26yr 9mth
Rance, Alex 127 25yr 10mth
Treloar is 22-23
Martin / Cotchin age bracket
:clapping
:shh
Plough did a great segment this arvo on SEN. The talk is we'd have to give up our first rounder for the next 2 years. So we'd be giving up a Vlastuin and Ellis to get it done. Worth it? IMO yep absolutely, but its a significant sacrifice nonetheless. God I do love the speculative trade period. Get it done tiges!
Great way to put it into perspective. The way I look at it is, will our first draft pick this year and next year be crucial pieces in a flag next year or the year after? Unlikely. Will Treloar? Definitely. Then the next argument is do we roll the dice and pay the price now by getting Treloar, or hold on to those picks and use them to build further into the future? We may be out of time with players like Deledio by the time our next couple draft hauls mature enough to play for a premiership.
Winning a flag soon would make us an attractive club like Hawthorn have been to trade in more talent, and it would probably push up the value of our fringe players to trade in players for need or draft picks for later.
very well said
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Kruze :snidegrin
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Matthew Kreuzer 26-27
you can come to the party too son
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BG has the head wobbles up. :shh
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Cheak out flog Ralph Twitter ....
The comment
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Cheak out flog Ralph Twitter ....
The comment
Link it?
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Cheak out flog Ralph Twitter ....
The comment
Link it?
Not appropriate, but if true trelor won't go to the pies
@ralphyheraldsun
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Cheak out flog Ralph Twitter ....
The comment
Link it?
Not appropriate, but if true trelor won't go to the pies
@ralphyheraldsun
:lol :lol :lol oh make it true :pray :pray :pray
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I don't have twitter.
Post the comment or paraphrase it for me plz
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These are the only tweets Jon Ralph now has about Treloar on his twitter account (posted last night at 8pm-ish):
Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun - "KB adamant Treloar getting to Tigers. Spoke to his manager Peter Blucher today. Says won't make decision until year over. Nervous wait KB!"
Luke Jones @ljonseym - "gut feel Ralphy after your chat?"
Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun - "he has great mail. Think he might be right"
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/with_replies
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'No decision' on Adam Treloar as Pies, Tigers battle
Jake Niall
The Age
August 28, 2015
The management of highly sought midfielder Adam Treloar insists no decision has been on the future of the young Giant, as Richmond, Collingwood and North Melbourne compete for his services.
While there has been initial speculation that Treloar has indicated a preference for Collingwood, and this week that he wanted to join the Tigers, his manager Peter Blucher of Velocity said the midfielder would not make a decision until season's end.
"We said we won't make a decision until the end of the season and we're not at the end of the season. He hasn't made a decision," Blucher said of Treloar, who is out of contract and considered all but certain to move to a Victorian club at season's end.
While the industry has been abuzz with suggestions that Treloar was bound for Collingwood - and then headed for Richmond - the view of the Treloar camp is that there is no need to make a decision until all facts are on the table.
Treloar has met with all three major suitors and has significant long-term offers to consider from those clubs. Collingwood has the best draft position - pick 7 based on ladder positions at this stage - but the AFL's new rule that allows the trading of future picks would give the Tigers and Kangaroos an opportunity to increase the compensation for offering the Giants an additional selection from 2016.
North Melbourne has not been informed by Treloar's management that they are out of the running for Treloar, either. He is expected to wait until the GWS season ends, after round 23, before informing the club of his intentions.
Richmond great Kevin Bartlett suggested on SEN on Thursday morning that that Treloar had indicated a preference for joining the Tigers, who is one of a number of players whom the Tigers have shown an interest in acquiring via a trade.
"My understanding is that GWS Giants jet Adam Treloar has told the Tigers that Richmond is his preferred club of choice for 2016 and beyond, not Collingwood," Bartlett said.
"I'm telling you 100 per cent, Richmond is the club of his choice."
Treloar, originally from Melbourne's outer south-east, has been among the most consistent performers for GWS this season and has become a hotter property due to the Giants signing a succession of other young guns. GWS would be seeking draft picks, rather than players for Treloar, since the infant club needs draft "points'' to ensure they can match the bids for their highly rated academy players Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy, who are rated as first round picks and probably top ten choices.
Treloar has a relationship with Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley from the coach's days coaching the Victorian under-16 country team, when he also coached Magpie and ex-Giant Taylor Adams.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-decision-on-adam-treloar-as-pies-tigers-battle-20150827-gj9h3s.html
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The fact they want to use draft picks to get the Academy players probably removes some of the importance of how high the pick is if the picks are purely used in a bidding system....... :whistle
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Now more fluffing about come this trade period. Offering up draft picks wont simply get the players over the line that we want.
Its amazing how some are rubbing themselves over an injury prone kruzer, when others like mason cox have waltzed right into lexus centre for free, because they sold a dream a lot better than the flogs we have running the show at the minute.
Our system is currently broken or dan and his mates are not good sales man.
Guys like Astbury and Conca are worth something(even though i dont) and i would start here with our first 2 picks to get the job done with Treloar and Motlop.
GWS need a KPD and we can afford to lose one
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Off topic but I liked the Everton coach comment in regard to chavski bidding 100million for young defender
"Our fans know all we are doing is trying to become better and be as good as we can," said Martinez, who also confirmed the club will formally reject the player's transfer request on Thursday morning.
"John is a massive part of that and we've got a clear idea that in life and in football money can sometimes not buy everything. This is about values and John is a vital part of our future."
Source: I heard him say it
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Now more fluffing about come this trade period. Offering up draft picks wont simply get the players over the line that we want.
Its amazing how some are rubbing themselves over an injury prone kruzer, when others like mason cox have waltzed right into lexus centre for free, because they sold a dream a lot better than the flogs we have running the show at the minute.
Our system is currently broken or dan and his mates are not good sales man.
Guys like Astbury and Conca are worth something(even though i dont) and i would start here with our first 2 picks to get the job done with Treloar and Motlop.
GWS need a KPD and we can afford to lose one
:lol at comparing kruzer to mason cox
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Agreed
Former number one draft pick ...
He goes alright
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Agreed
Former number one draft pick ...
He goes alright
Tambling was a former pick 4 and i think andrew walker was as well. Means absolutely jack where they were selected.
if the recruiters did their job we wouldnt be contemplating a bloke who is as injury prone as griffiths.
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That's not really true but is it
If you got over the pick ones the last 10 / 15 years most go alright
IMO an important factor is the Cotchin-Kreuzer clearance work history.
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Off topic but I liked the Everton coach comment in regard to chavski bidding 100million for young defender
"Our fans know all we are doing is trying to become better and be as good as we can," said Martinez, who also confirmed the club will formally reject the player's transfer request on Thursday morning.
"John is a massive part of that and we've got a clear idea that in life and in football money can sometimes not buy everything. This is about values and John is a vital part of our future."
Source: I heard him say it
Really? you quote word for word, with proper grammar and you heard him say it? The. Where?
Please.
You know the rules that again you refuse to follow them. Which is what you've been doing for a very long time
So rather than pot the site rules and bait the mods, I request/suggest you post the appropriate link or it will get removed. Which would be unfortunate BTW because it's a very interesting point
And BTW before anyone queries, yes I have tried to find a link myself and can't so it goes back to the poster. Add the link or it gets removed
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Now more fluffing about come this trade period. Offering up draft picks wont simply get the players over the line that we want.
Its amazing how some are rubbing themselves over an injury prone kruzer, when others like mason cox have waltzed right into lexus centre for free, because they sold a dream a lot better than the flogs we have running the show at the minute.
Our system is currently broken or dan and his mates are not good sales man.
Guys like Astbury and Conca are worth something(even though i dont) and i would start here with our first 2 picks to get the job done with Treloar and Motlop.
GWS need a KPD and we can afford to lose one
Collingwood? Really?? I cannot believe people are sold on their plan. Mason Cox hasn't proved/done a thing. He is athletic. So is Majak Daw, and he is a terrible footballer.
They picked up Greenwood and Adams, say we got them it would of been at the expense of Lennon and C Ellis + about a million dollars of cap space.
Taylor Adams in his first year at the pies was on more money than Beams... Look at how that worked out.
Say we picked up these "guns" and lost out on Lennon, C Ellis and Rance & the ability to chase Treloar/Kreuzer/Yarran etc.
I'm personally pretty impressed by our list management.
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Now more fluffing about come this trade period. Offering up draft picks wont simply get the players over the line that we want.
Its amazing how some are rubbing themselves over an injury prone kruzer, when others like mason cox have waltzed right into lexus centre for free, because they sold a dream a lot better than the flogs we have running the show at the minute.
Our system is currently broken or dan and his mates are not good sales man.
Guys like Astbury and Conca are worth something(even though i dont) and i would start here with our first 2 picks to get the job done with Treloar and Motlop.
GWS need a KPD and we can afford to lose one
Agree generally but calm down, you blow a fool a valve big man
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Mark Stevens was just on Ch 7 and said, "Richmond officials are quite chirpy about Treloar and there's some substance [to KB's rumour]. We thought Collingwood but the talk now is Treloar to Punt Road."
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Fev was on SEN earlier today and said, "He had a beer with Gibbs and Murphy last night and that the mail he's got is that Yarran is going to Richmond."
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
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Treloar, Motlop, Yarran. Would be thrilled with any two of them. Would make is legit contenders IMO.
Would still be looking at Henderson and Carlisle to replace Chaplin who is 30ish.
Plus Kreuzer and Stef Martin to replace Maric.
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
One word. Woah :shh
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
One word. Woah :shh
I'd like a full transcript please.... :shh
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
One word. Woah :shh
I'd like a full transcript please.... :shh
'like stuffing whoa man.....obtaining this guy would be shrewd recruiting.......whoa' :shh"
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When I see Treloar in a Tiger polo at a Punt Road press conference then I'll believe it. The media love mentioning the Tigers to sell papers and bump up ratings.
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
Like stuffen whoa man :lol
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
One word. Woah :shh
I'd like a full transcript please.... :shh
'like stuffing whoa man.....obtaining this guy would be shrewd recruiting.......whoa' :shh"
:snidegrin
:clapping
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I'm not hearing anything different to that :lol
:shh
Can you describe Treloar for me in a sentence or two please?
One word. Woah :shh
I'd like a full transcript please.... :shh
'like stuffing whoa man.....obtaining this guy would be shrewd recruiting.......whoa' :shh"
:snidegrin
:clapping
I was actually hoping he'd give me the ol' hands like steel traps caper etc etc. :shh
Miss those comments :bow
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GEELONG star Steven Motlop "definitely" wants to stay with the club and won't be lured away by a rival offer, Cats football manager Steve Hocking says.
"It's just really his manager and the club just getting the right deal and agreeing to what I think is fair enough on his front, and … he's a restricted free agent in 12 months' time, so how do you contract through that?
"I think that's a very reasonable question to be asking."
"He may be a player that's got some interest from other clubs - it's not of interest to him," Hocking said of the 87-gamer.
"He wants to stay at Geelong and he's made that quite clear to us. I think it's more around the free agency part of it, that's a changing landscape for clubs and how do you see someone of that talent?
"He influences so many parts of the game and the way we play and he's a great finisher as well, as we saw last week. It's trying to reach and land on a point that is suitable to both parties."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-29/motlop-definitely-wants-to-stay-at-geelong-say-cats
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Woah trelor judd/Gaz. hybrid :shh
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Giants not 'resigned' to losing Treloar, says CEO
AFL.com.au
August 29, 2015
GREATER Western Sydney hasn't given up hope of keeping Adam Treloar, despite big-money offers for the star midfielder to return home to Melbourne, Giants CEO Dave Matthews says.
Treloar is the last high-profile youngster yet to recommit to the expansion club and has been linked to lucrative long-term deals with Richmond and Collingwood.
Matthews said the Giants' offer to Treloar is similar to those signed by fellow onballers Dylan Shiel and Stephen Coniglio.
And he said GWS isn't "resigned" to losing the 22-year-old, who arrived at the club from the Dandenong Stingrays in 2011.
"Adam's had an offer in front of him … (since) the start of the year that's really commensurate with what a lot of the other players in and around the midfield have accepted and responded to," Matthews told SEN.
"We understand too that his manager's talked to a lot of clubs … so we'll just wait and see, there's a couple of weeks to go in the season.
"We'd love him to stay, but in saying that we've got an amazing list in my view. We've held together the players that we really want to keep and we'll wait and see."
Who's on the move? Check out the status of 2015's free agents
Despite speculation that GWS would struggle to keep its young stars, the Giants got the ball rolling early this season when key forward Jeremy Cameron inked a five-year deal through to 2020.
They have also locked away Devon Smith, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Shiel and Coniglio.
But should Treloar chose to leave, Matthews said the Giants are willing to play hard ball in trade negotiations.
"I've even had one club say to me the other day they're thinking about giving him an ultimatum – I mean, he's currently a contracted player at the Giants," he said.
"He's someone we'd really like to see stay at the Giants, but if in times he comes to us and for various reasons – mostly financial obviously – and wants to go elsewhere, then we'll just pursue the best deal we can for the club."
But Matthews still believes the young gun could be convinced to see through the journey towards a premiership with his current teammates.
"He's a terrific young man, we hope he takes the sort of offer that the other players have taken," Matthews said.
"They've all taken it to stay together and they see success on the horizon. What I do know is what he would be thinking about is where he's a chance to have ultimate success and I think he can have it here."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-29/giants-not-resigned-to-losing-treloar-says-ceo
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Trelor is monstering Carlton
Jet
Edit: just saw his stats after 3 and a bit quarters... Wow goals contested possessions tackles
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Is it possible we can steal Stringer. Now that's a player I'd like to see in Yellow & Black!
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Yarren done his hammy Lol
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LOL @ Richo tonight.
Starts off with "Everyone thought Treloar was going to Collingwood but I can tell you he hasn't made up his mind yet and it's between Collingwood and Richmond" and then goes "Nah, he's off to Richmond!" ;D
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Treloar would be a sensational get for our club. Hopefully it happens.
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Trelor is monstering Carlton
Jet
Edit: just saw his stats after 3 and a bit quarters... Wow goals contested possessions tackles
link or it didnt happen
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http://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-iFts0nvt3XDH2/tile
28 touches
3 goals
7 tackles
5 inside 50
shedload goal assit
:cheers
GWS defeats Carlton
Round 22, Spotless Stadium, Attendance: 9538
Saturday, 29th August 2015, 1:45 PM AEST
GWS Betting Odds: Win 1.22, Line -30.5 @ 1.85
Carlton Betting Odds: Win 4.50, Line +30.5 @ 1.95
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
GWS 2.3 5.8 13.11 20.12 132
Carlton 2.4 4.9 5.9 7.9 51
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=6145
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28 touches
3 goals
7 tackles
5 inside 50
shedload goal assit
:cheers
GWS defeats Carlton
Round 22, Spotless Stadium, Attendance: 9538
Saturday, 29th August 2015, 1:45 PM AEST
GWS Betting Odds: Win 1.22, Line -30.5 @ 1.85
Carlton Betting Odds: Win 4.50, Line +30.5 @ 1.95
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
GWS 2.3 5.8 13.11 20.12 132
Carlton 2.4 4.9 5.9 7.9 51
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=6145
Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who wil win the "Battle of Treloar"?
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Maybe the twist is that neither will and he stays with GWS, seems to me that this could be payback for the Dusty episode, allow us to dream and then slam the door shut in our faces.
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Maybe the twist is that neither will and he stays with GWS, seems to me that this could be payback for the Dusty episode, allow us to dream and then slam the door shut in our faces.
What's was the Dusty episode?
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Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who will win the "Battle of Treloar"?
Neil Balme?
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Maybe the twist is that neither will and he stays with GWS, seems to me that this could be payback for the Dusty episode, allow us to dream and then slam the door shut in our faces.
What's was the Dusty episode?
His manager Ralph Carr shopping Dusty around for the highest bidder and even taking him up to Western Sydney when Dusty didn't want to leave Richmond.
Going by the Giants' CEO comments though, you would say he knows Treloar is leaving GWS. Hardly a convincing response when asked whether Treloar was staying and there was no "Treloar has said to us he wants to remain a Giant".
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I too heard the gws CEO interview
Trelor is gone was my impression
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Source for this interview?
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Source for this interview?
http://www.sen.com.au/audio
Currently fourth on the playlist :thumbsup
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Source for this interview?
As posted earlier in this thread, he was SEN and as posted on another thread the ABC
See:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22228.msg511407#msg511407
Clearly says SEN. ::)
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Jay Clark reckons he is Colonwood bound.
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so who do we believe KB or jay clark?
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Barrett says his sources are sure he is going to the pies and to us..... :lol
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Jay Clark is a pip squeak, My mail is that RFC are in the frame for Treloar and we are confident of getting a deal done :shh
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Source for this interview?
As posted earlier in this thread, he was SEN and as posted on another thread the ABC
See:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22228.msg511407#msg511407
Clearly says SEN. ::)
Clearly I meant the link as EEA was smart enough to realise ::).
BTW thanks EEA, now I can listen to it
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Jay Clark is a pip squeak, My mail is that RFC are in the frame for Treloar and we are confident of getting a deal done :shh
you wouldn't know if your arze was on fire ;D
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Jay Clark is clueless. Emma Quayle has made him look like a keyboard warrior at draft time for years.
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Goss from BF:
Similar to Barrett, I have heard both Tiggers and Collingwood done deal. It may be a bit of his manager playing 'how high can you go'.
Money still favors the Pies though.
Heard the players we have inquired about are Aaron Hall but he has played well enough the back half of the season that he may be out of our price range (as in what we had planned to offer). I have been told that our preference was Motlop, Yarran, Hall for the small forward/ part time mid role. Still could get both but Yarran is closest to a done deal as you could get.
Another plan was Matera from GC, but talks have stopped. Apparently on RFCs behalf. Been told because they were 'going to look in another direction' which has been interpreted up north as they have landed one of their targets (presumed to be Yarran).
We have made an inquiry with Bastinac. In and out of the team at North, not the happiest player in their ranks apparently. He is one of the inside mid players talked about by T71 I believe.
Did make contact with Lonergan too (gold coast) simply because FJ loved him, can play inside and a big body. During the draft for that year (I think Flossy's draft), we rated him as a player that would be serviceable early and then after year 3 really hit his straps. Obviously re-signed though. We planned on taking him with our second pick. We tried to trade up to a mid teens to pick him or Taylor Garner but no deal could get done (I believe the discussions were with GWS).
Lachie Weller - as it has been said by a few he said to the Dockers that he was happy to stay and happy to go. What I have heard since is that he wants to stay.
Been told as well that there is another smokey that the RFC have made a legitimate play for. Now all of my sources ARE NOT associated with the RFC (have heard this from people inside multiple clubs), and thus no one knows who it could be or if its a smokescreen or something with substance. It could be Dangerfield but one of my sources is from an Adelaide based club who says whilst its possible his free agency is so high profile, if it was it would be like the whole moon walk was filmed in a studio deal.
We will likely depart with Arnott and maybe Thomas off the rookie list this season - which doesn't sound like much news. The club is extremely interested in seeing who goes off the Suns, GWS and North lists. The latter because some of the Roos' high picks haven't really been developed (see Harper).
Lastly, we have tabled an offer to Kruezer as has been reported. Its not an offer that will blow Carlton out of the water - or the Dogs for that matter. Its been put to me that its because we see him as a want and not a need.
Teams are planning for the removal of the sub rule which will likely see a further restriction on rotations. This will then increase the likelihood of 2 full time ruckman. Dimma and the coaching staff apparently loved the Maric/ Hampson combo, but felt that we lost alot up forward. And considering we have trouble scoring it was partially scrapped. They Kruezer as sharing the load with Maric 50-50 prolonged the latter's career. But also as Kruezer is a better forward, it allows the dual ruck combo of Hampson/ Maric with the 3 pronged forward line.
If Kruezer agrees to sign with the yellow and black (unlikely - Kruezer is a loyal dude and the offers from us or dogs haven't been big enough to reject the Blues entirely) it will lilely mean another big is traded away. This is probably McBean. The club I have been told saw McBean as a 5 year project (like Elton became) which would make sense. A skinny 200cm back man being converted into a forward. But he has impacted the VFL far sooner to the delight of everyone here and at the club.
However Griffith's papers are stamped 'stay'. Dimma loves him. It was after the Sydney game where he played Wing and back and was a wall but didn't get beaten the other way that Dimma wanted him. McBean nor Hampson can be moved or floated back of centre like Griffith's. Thus it allows a big 3 forward line with the ability to isolate 1 (move Jack up) or 2 in the forward half.
All of thus has come from multiple sources outside of the RFC over multiple clubs. I want to stress that assumptions and speculation has been made in some instances because the facts don't paint a full picture.
Read more at http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iii-linked-to-treloar-motlop-yarran.1108162/page-96#Fu5H4utiiQ9gAYwd.99
A lot of that is spot on.
I have 3 sources I trust, one is associated with the club but the other two, like yourself are at other clubs. So when both Aline, i tend to get excited. I called Weller early on that he would stay,when people were saying he was wanting home simply due to one of my sources, who works in list management knew way in advance, when the other two started mentioning the same, i believed. That is why i am excited by treloar as all three think we are better then a good chance and money we can easily match the pies if we wanted.
I mentioned A hall 6 months a go to a few, that is starting to gather steam as we believe he will be squeezed out but he may most likely go to Melbourne, due to the cash on offer, how melbourne has all this money is beyond me as the club is broke, **** the afl.
There is a smokey I wont name that is a starting 22 player who is elite, a dead set gun who we believe we may have done enough, but still work to do, it really comes down to a few others who we want either getting done or not. On big K, we believe like I have mentioned before he may stay at the blues but there is a chance, a good one that he leaves the blues due to the blues low balling him on a new contract, its like they want him to go...SOS has peeed off a lot of players with in the club, the playing group is split. If they burn K, expect fallout imo.
On Hammer, I would not be surprised if he retired if we got big K at the end of next year, it really comes down to his knee which isnt good and will never be that good, hammer wont last past his contract which has a year to run imo.
Like that has been mentioned Dogs have offered a good deal but he wont play for the dogs. it would be us or the cats IMO. Arnots gone, thomas may stay for another year.
Again like lobseter said, this is all speculation, with huge chance for things to change quickly.
Read more at http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iii-linked-to-treloar-motlop-yarran.1108162/page-96#Fu5H4utiiQ9gAYwd.99
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Love when people say they have all these sources, name all these players but then say "an elite 22 player who I won't name". Destroys all credibility IMO
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Cross Motlop of the list.
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All pretty consistent with what I'm hearing too :shh
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Cross Motlop of the list.
Yarren / motlop
Same same
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Cross Kruezer off the list ;D
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Cross Kruezer off the list ;D
hampson 2016 :clapping
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy just said those at Punt Rd are upbeat about Treloar. So the word is Treloar to Richmond. Watson then chipped in and said that's not what heard from a "person" he spoke to today which was Treloar to Collingwood was a done deal. Carey added that he has also been told Treloar to Collingwood deal is done. Stevens replied "Well, he's not going to be at GWS, so it'll be either Richmond or Collingwood".
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I think we will miss out Treloar :help
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I think we will miss out Treloar :help
Probably, but club needs to find another high quality player
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Look for Bennys head wobble.
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If we do miss out on Treloar I hope we push the Pies to pay over the top. I do hope we get him though..
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy just said those at Punt Rd are upbeat about Treloar. So the word is Treloar to Richmond. Watson then chipped in and said that's not what heard from a "person" he spoke to today which was Treloar to Collingwood was a done deal. Carey added that he has also been told Treloar to Collingwood deal is done. Stevens replied "Well, he's not going to be at GWS, so it'll be either Richmond or Collingwood".
Carey was pretty sure rance was bound for freo too :lol
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy just said those at Punt Rd are upbeat about Treloar. So the word is Treloar to Richmond. Watson then chipped in and said that's not what heard from a "person" he spoke to today which was Treloar to Collingwood was a done deal. Carey added that he has also been told Treloar to Collingwood deal is done. Stevens replied "Well, he's not going to be at GWS, so it'll be either Richmond or Collingwood".
Stevens. Lol.
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Can Richmond grab Treloar from under the Pies' nose?
AFL.com.au
September 1, 2015
RICHMOND stands as good a chance as any club to secure Greater Western Sydney star Adam Treloar should the gifted midfielder decide, as expected, to return to Victoria at season’s end.
Although clubs not directly involved in the chase for Treloar still think Collingwood will be his preferred destination, the Tigers could attempt to usurp the Pies by offering the Giants a better deal at the trade table.
It all depends what interested parties potentially think the hottest prospect in this year's trade period is worth.
Treloar is certainly worth at the very least a first-round pick. And he's likely to be worth much more.
Everyone knows he is a gun, having played 78 games in four seasons.
He has finished ninth, fifth and fourth in the club best and fairest awards in his three completed seasons and has earned five Brownlow Medal votes. He has also maintained his form this season despite ongoing speculation about whether he is staying or going, and should finish in the top five in the Giants’ best and fairest.
He is, in simple terms, a jet.
Some industry sources believe the Giants may demand two first-round draft picks in exchange for the former Dandenong Stingray.
The Magpies would be unlikely to agree to that, particularly given Treloar is out of contract and industry sources suggest the Giants' salary cap is tight.
However if both parties were open to exchanging a first-round pick and later picks the following season, in what shapes as a much deeper and therefore valuable draft, the job might be completed. Because what the Giants want under the new bidding system are points, points and more points to use on Academy prospects Matthew Kennedy and Jacob Hopper this season and Harrison Macreadie next year.
If the Giants finish ninth, they will only have 2504 points to use on Kennedy and Hopper in 2015 with Macreadie to come the following year. This is not enough points because according to industry sources, all three could attract top 10 bids in 2015 and 2016.
And that's where Richmond might become a spoiler in the race for Treloar.
Depending on their desire to get Treloar, the Tigers might be able to put together a package of picks that gives the Giants more points than they would get off their competitors. The opportunity to trade future picks has opened up the possibilities, particularly when those in the race might have designs on gaining Brisbane Lions midfielder James Aish.
That will give all parties something to consider because Treloar is sure to want the Giants fairly compensated.
The new system means that adding a 'steak knives' player to the deal doesn't seem to be much value to GWS.
The Giants can pick up some experience by picking up a delisted free agent or trading a player that has been stuck in the NEAFL. They don't need to panic, having traded reasonably well for experience in recent years.
The Magpies have a history of being hard trade period negotiators, not unlike the Giants, who have managed to get deals done under pressure in the past. But the introduction of the academy points system and future draft trading will see this negotiation process, if Treloar leaves, enter new territory.
And with Richmond in the picture and seemingly happy to entertain a strong deal (and Fairfax reporting that Carlton is also waiting in the wings), the negotiations are likely to be harder than they have ever been.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-31/can-the-tigers-snare-adam-treloar
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Blues join the race for young Giants star Adam Treloar
Caroline Wilson and Jon Pierik
The Age
September 1, 2015
Carlton has emerged as a late suitor for Adam Treloar, the hottest young property on the trade market, following the appointment of Brendon Bolton as the Blues coach.
Although speculation for some weeks has surrounded Carlton's interest in the out-of-contract Giant, Bolton's arrival at the club has confirmed it. The Blues remain highly unlikely to give up their first-round draft pick for Treloar, who could walk to Carlton via the pre-season draft.
Treloar, 22, was one of the original Giants taken as a 17-year-old selection before the club's first AFL season. He was signed by Stephen Silvagni, who has since crossed to Carlton as the club's list manager. Treloar also grew up supporting the Blues.
Silvagni and Bolton watched Treloar's best afield performance on Saturday at Spotless Stadium as the Giants thrashed the Blues.
GWS, having re-signed most of their other young guns, have virtually conceded they cannot come close to matching the money on offer for Treloar from at least three clubs - Collingwood, Richmond and now Carlton.
The Giants are being forced to shed players as they also deal with the pending loss of their cost-of-living allowance. Treloar's asking price has been estimated conservatively at $700,000 a season over the long term with one club offering the midfielder from Noble Park a six-year deal.
It has also been reported that the Tigers were willing to trade their first-round draft picks from 2015 and 2016 for Treloar in the first post-season open market period in which future picks will be up for grabs.
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The Blues are confident of retaining Matthew Kreuzer, who is expected to soon sign a new contract.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-join-the-race-for-young-giants-star-adam-treloar-20150831-gjbs53.html
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Lol
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The threat of the PSD only drops his trade value as GWS would have to take what they can get or risk getting nothing at all.
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I think the only guarantee n our recruiting drive is Yarran listening to cotchin last nite he seemed pretty confident that hed be moving across to Richmond a good thing well I guess time well tell cant be any worse then some previous recycled players SEN said this morning I hope yarran is not a Sylvia so are we promised the world and delivered nothing.. :thumbsup :thumbsup ... Treloar is always going to be spoken about and rightful so his a gun at least we are in the running will be either us and Collingwood thinking no-one knows as yet at least these 2 look better then what trengrove and winderlich looked hahah thank god we didn't pick those two up
GO U TIGERS
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Dangerfield isn't on Adelaide's 2016 calendar ...
(https://i.imgur.com/cj66FEd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NMhqp2N.jpg)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/3j77sn/no_dangerfield_on_the_2016_crows_calendar/
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And Eddie Betts is as tall as Sam Jacobs and Tex Walker :lol
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And Eddie Betts is as tall as Sam Jacobs and Tex Walker :lol
That would be a serious player
6 foot 7 eddie
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#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
It seems Collingwood are filthy on Treloar, they thought they had a commitment from him weeks ago, but he's done a backflip. Tigers bound
#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
I heard from a very reliable source that Adam Treloar has asked GWS management this morning to be traded to Richmond. Keen to be a Tiger
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Don't know who this guy is, but hope he's on the money.
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must be 2 weeks ago before we smashed the pies :shh
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#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
It seems Collingwood are filthy on Treloar, they thought they had a commitment from him weeks ago, but he's done a backflip. Tigers bound
#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
I heard from a very reliable source that Adam Treloar has asked GWS management this morning to be traded to Richmond. Keen to be a Tiger
Where is that from? :pray
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Hearing the Cornes boys on Sheahan the other night, would not surprise if Choco has been in to Treloar for a time :thumbsup
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#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
It seems Collingwood are filthy on Treloar, they thought they had a commitment from him weeks ago, but he's done a backflip. Tigers bound
#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
I heard from a very reliable source that Adam Treloar has asked GWS management this morning to be traded to Richmond. Keen to be a Tiger
Where is that from? :pray
Twitter. Guy has added that he was right about Beams and same source told him this
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Right now I wont believe anything until the season is over and I see them in a press conference at Punt Rd with our new recruits wearing Richmond Polos with the Jeep badge on the front.
However if we can land 2 or 3 players from other clubs from our target list It will be exciting times at Richmond over the next 1 to 2 years.
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So from a quick look around the net we are getting - Adam Treloar, James Aish and Aaron Hall.
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So from a quick look around the net we are getting - Adam Treloar, James Aish and Aaron Hall.
cool
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or we could be getting NUFFIN ;D
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies. I would love nothing better to steal him from them. That club and their president are a joke.
#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
It seems Collingwood are filthy on Treloar, they thought they had a commitment from him weeks ago, but he's done a backflip. Tigers bound
#KDiddy @CellinoFactor · 2h2 hours ago
I heard from a very reliable source that Adam Treloar has asked GWS management this morning to be traded to Richmond. Keen to be a Tiger
Where is that from? :pray
Twitter. Guy has added that he was right about Beams and same source told him this
Maybe this was the club matthews was talking about that was thinking of demanding an answer from treloar.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-29/giants-not-resigned-to-losing-treloar-says-ceo
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Yarran happy to stay at the Blues now, said it on AFL.com.au
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:scream
Yarran happy to stay at the Blues now, said it on AFL.com.au
Yes but are they happy to keep him?
In all honesty they'd be mad to get rid of him, I doubt they'd get a second round pick for him and at his best he's worth way more than that.
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So from a quick look around the net we are getting - Adam Treloar, James Aish and Aaron Hall.
At the very least
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Well if the worst case is that FJ s team is let loose on this years draft pool, to ace it ,,,,again ,,,, we should, be so lucky :shh
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Yarran happy to stay at the Blues now, said it on AFL.com.au
Maybe that is because we are now giving our first pick to GWS or Adelaide........... :shh
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies.
This is the exact attitude that fuelled the trade war with collingwood in the early/mid eighties, which saw richmond go from a team expected to dominate for a decade to one that was a basket case for 30 years
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies.
This is the exact attitude that fuelled the trade war with collingwood in the early/mid eighties, which saw richmond go from a team expected to dominate for a decade to one that was a basket case for 30 years
Oh well
House is in order currently
Get the boy
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What about John Pitura?
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yeah, how good was that one?
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies.
This is the exact attitude that fuelled the trade war with collingwood in the early/mid eighties, which saw richmond go from a team expected to dominate for a decade to one that was a basket case for 30 years
x 1000
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C4[2]Yo`DooR, whose been a fairly reliable poster on BF regarding trade info, has said Treloar wants to play for Collingwood.
Treloar wants to play for Collingwood, and thats where he will end up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-treloar.1100493/page-91#post-40610635
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies.
This is the exact attitude that fuelled the trade war with collingwood in the early/mid eighties, which saw richmond go from a team expected to dominate for a decade to one that was a basket case for 30 years
Oh well
House is in order currently
Get the boy
Rubbish. No different to wasting a pick 6 on Conca when no one expected it. That's what sets u back
Correct bents. 2 Picks will do it for a jet like him. Any more than that walk away
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OMG It's happening!!!!!!!
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OMG It's happening!!!!!!!
?????
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C4[2]Yo`DooR, whose been a fairly reliable poster on BF regarding trade info, has said Treloar wants to play for Collingwood.
Treloar wants to play for Collingwood, and thats where he will end up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-treloar.1100493/page-91#post-40610635
I don't get why he gets to nominate a club?
He's not a free agent and if he wants out he's technicaly up for trade.
GWS should be taking the best offer avaible to them or set an example and walk him into the PSD.
With Carlton now showing interest they probably have the upper hand. If they realy want him they
Will have either Pick 1 or 2 and with GWS seemingly interested in Kruzer they would certainly be in the box seat you would think.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GVFbI3L.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/GVFbI3L.jpg)
:clapping
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Greater Western Sydney coach Leon Cameron remains confident the Giants can hold onto out-of-contract midfielder Adam Treloar, saying he is "entrenched in the club".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-03/treloar-wants-to-stay
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Cameron Luke is a Sports Radio Host and Producer for @crocmedia and 1116 Sen. Host of @traderadio and @sportsdaywa:
"Plenty of time to talk Treloar and he did feature heavily last week. Richmond are red hot favourites!"
https://twitter.com/camluke
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its now become a pride thing us vrs the pies.
This is the exact attitude that fuelled the trade war with collingwood in the early/mid eighties, which saw richmond go from a team expected to dominate for a decade to one that was a basket case for 30 years
Oh well
House is in order currently
Get the boy
Rubbish. No different to wasting a pick 6 on Conca when no one expected it. That's what sets u back
Correct bents. 2 Picks will do it for a jet like him. Any more than that walk away
WTF are u on about. this was before conca and before the draft. just because you wernt born when something happened doesnt mean it is fantasy.
stuff me sideways.
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I see this as panning as more of a scenario where he would nominate his preferred destination and then the trade gets done, rather than Collingwood and us duking it out.
Our 2 first rounders would make GWS happy I'm sure. They don't want current players. Treloar would come for a flag as much as money. We have to sell that dream.
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^^^um sorry but when did we get two first round picks???
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^^^um sorry but when did we get two first round picks???
2015
2016
Like the NBA
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If Treloar is not coming us, you'd think there will be an announcement sometime next week after the Giants, Pies and Blues seasons are officially over.
^^^um sorry but when did we get two first round picks???
WAT, clubs can now trade future draft picks. So our offer is apparently our 2015 & 2016 first rounders.
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Medical done for Yarran.
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Medical done for Yarran.
Thanks rog :thumbsup
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Medical done for Yarran.
Not worried about the hammy?
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If Treloar is not coming us, you'd think there will be an announcement sometime next week after the Giants, Pies and Blues seasons are officially over.
^^^um sorry but when did we get two first round picks???
WAT, clubs can now trade future draft picks. So our offer is apparently our 2015 & 2016 first rounders.
Ah yes, sorry forgot about that.
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From a GWS fan on BF:
Trust me guys, Bugg and Treloar are probably Tigers in 2016.
I was told by a high profile Giants player who I've known for a few years that Treloar told a select few teammates he was on his way out, back to Melbourne.
He was open to going to any club which gave us the best offer. His preferential club was Richmond. Not Collingwood.
Not many people know, but you guys have an employee in a fairly decent position there who just so happens to be Dave Matthews brother.
You guys are Black Caviar odds to get him in my books.
Bugg is more of a guess.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iii-linked-to-treloar-motlop-yarran.1108162/page-153#Volj5dyu59AShed9.99
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Next up is the rumour about Jaeger O'Meara ...
First on JO. It is not like a standard trade, bear with me as there is poo i cant say. JO feels his rehab may be better served in Melbourne, RFC is rated really highly, so that's is where all the talk started, that is all it is at this stage, talk. I have no heard any concrete offers etc. Bottom line there may be a window, the risk is very high but so is the reward.
Guess we will see.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iii-linked-to-treloar-motlop-yarran.1108162/page-158#lcGg4Cfh0l9JJUkZ.99
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BF also claiming Carlton asked for our first round pick and Ben Lennon in exchange for Yarran :lol. We apparently put up our third pick. So, our second rounder will most likely get the deal done.
Jon Ralph must have read rogerd3's post here on OER as on SEN he said that a medical was done for Yarran.
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We ain't getting anyone. We don't spend money on players.
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Star Giants youngster Adam Treloar seems almost certain to request a move to Collingwood, in preference to his other serious suitors Richmond and North Melbourne. The Giants will demand a steep price for Treloar, however, and if the Pies struggle to satisfy them, Richmond could try to re-enter the race.
Geelong midfielder Steven Motlop looks more and more likely to re-sign despite strong interest from Richmond and Adelaide.
Chris Yarran will almost certainly follow Henderson out of Ikon Park despite having a year left on his contract. The prospective 2016 free agent has already been linked to Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-04/trade-whispers-leuenberger-smith-in-giants-sights
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Star Giants youngster Adam Treloar seems almost certain to request a move to Collingwood, in preference to his other serious suitors Richmond and North Melbourne. The Giants will demand a steep price for Treloar, however, and if the Pies struggle to satisfy them, Richmond could try to re-enter the race.
Geelong midfielder Steven Motlop looks more and more likely to re-sign despite strong interest from Richmond and Adelaide.
Chris Yarran will almost certainly follow Henderson out of Ikon Park despite having a year left on his contract. The prospective 2016 free agent has already been linked to Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-04/trade-whispers-leuenberger-smith-in-giants-sights
As if Nick Bowen knows who he is going to nominate.....FFS has he asked him?
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Star Giants youngster Adam Treloar seems almost certain to request a move to Collingwood, in preference to his other serious suitors Richmond and North Melbourne. The Giants will demand a steep price for Treloar, however, and if the Pies struggle to satisfy them, Richmond could try to re-enter the race.
Geelong midfielder Steven Motlop looks more and more likely to re-sign despite strong interest from Richmond and Adelaide.
Chris Yarran will almost certainly follow Henderson out of Ikon Park despite having a year left on his contract. The prospective 2016 free agent has already been linked to Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-04/trade-whispers-leuenberger-smith-in-giants-sights
Don't worry this guy is clueless
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Rumour bugg, trelor -->. Richmond
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Rumour bugg, trelor -->. Richmond
For our first round picks in 2015 and 2016 drafts?
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Treloar won't come if he sees this crap against Norf. :thumbsdown
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Treloar won't come if he sees this crap against Norf. :thumbsdown
Yeah and bloody hell don't we need him!!
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its ok boys he's at home jumping up and down from excitement at all the goals we are scoring now :snidegrin
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its ok boys he's at home jumping up and down from excitement at all the goals we are scoring now :snidegrin
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/09/169061_ef86b5a12c7f96a3f9efe305d3b9dcfc.jpg)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iii-linked-to-treloar-yarran.1108162/page-165#post-40647321
;D
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Bugg would be a good get, but surely our two 1st round picks wouldn't get both him and Treloar.
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hey guys who or what is Bugg?
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hey guys who or what is Bugg?
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/tomas-bugg
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hey guys who or what is Bugg?
Something I washed off my windscreen?
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hey guys who or what is Bugg?
Pre listed as a 17 year old with GWS (so think a top 5 pick). Plays a negating role but can get the pill himself. Would probably play Griggs role or could be put in defense but don't know who's spot he would take (maybe Hunt's or Batch but not sure if he can play tall like Batch)
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Is he the one - that hit the bouncer - with his crutch?
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Anyone who wants some lols can go over and read the carlton big footy board. they are up to Lennon and Vlastuin for Yarran lol
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:snidegrin
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Soon theyre gonna want Dusty and Jack and we may have to chuck in lids and cotch as extras to equalize the deal ;D
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McBean, Lennon, vlastuin and our future second rounder for yarren
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We can cross Motlop off our list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-05/motlop-resigns-with-geelong
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We can cross Motlop off our list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-05/motlop-resigns-with-geelong
good :clapping
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Is he the one - that hit the bouncer - with his crutch?
I thought that was Greene.
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Is he the one - that hit the bouncer - with his crutch?
I thought that was Greene.
Oh yeah
It's all Greek to me
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Yeah, heard Motlop had signed, he must know Danger is on the way.
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Yeah, heard Motlop had signed, he must know Danger is on the way.
Or, the cats have the money to keep Motlop because Danger is coming to the tiges.
:lol
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Carltank must be pretty confident after they got our second rounder for Hamspud, lightning won't strike twice ya mugs.
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Medical done for Yarran.
Not worried about the hammy?
I'd be more worried about the mental side of things.
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Is he the one - that hit the bouncer - with his crutch?
How'd he do that?
Wouldn't that hurt his crutch more than the bouncer?
Unless he has a steel tipped wang
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Treloar hot property: Kennelly
Sunday, September 06, 2015
Source: SportsFan
Tadhg Kennelly says GWS star Adam Treloar is hot property, and has a loyalty vs money decision to make.
Tadhg Kennelly says emerging GWS star Adam Treloar is in demand from other clubs and has plenty to offer. But is he worth the big price tag being bandied about?
'Not quite yet,' Kennelly told SportsFan's Will McCloy.
'Treloar's signature … they're [his management] looking for a three or four year deal for $700 [thousand] plus a year.'
'The Giants can't afford that.'
Check Tadhg Kennelly’s preview of Sunday's Demons versus Giants match here.
The former Swans premiership defender said that since GWS will struggle to hold onto the midfielder, they will be looking to bolster their team in other areas.
'Also the Giants are probably playing the card as far as "Well, let's see what we can get for him; what do we need on our list?"'
'They probably need a key defender, another ruckman to help [Shane] Mumford, who's coming towards the end of his career,' noted Kennelly.
Kennelly noted that teams such as Collingwood and Richmond, the reported front-runners in the race for Treloar's signature, are probably prepared to pay that kind of money for a 21-year-old who is still on the rise because he offers plenty of options.
'You've got to watch him … on the weekend he had 28 possessions, kicked three goals. So he'll score as a midfielder, which is a key component,' he said.
'He wins clearances, he wins the hard ball and he's just a hard-working midfielder that gets his hands on the ball … and he finishes off the work. He can go forward, kick goals.'
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/treloar-hot-property-kennelly/tabid/91/newsid/174500/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_treloarhotpropertykennelly_060915
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Must get him if we can!!
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forget about the fact that you have to pay overs to get him...competition for him forces you into that situation.....you're paying overs today hoping that you will have got a bargain tomorrow.....its the price you have to pay if you want to win....look at the EPL
cheers!
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Treloar another 22 possessions so far today against the Dee's..
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IF we were to pay overs, id prefer to pay overs for a kid who still has improvement and may grow into his salary package, rather that say Danger who probably wont get any better.
still wouldnt want to go overboard though.
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Giants to hear from Treloar 'within 14 days'
AFL.com.au
September 6, 2015
GREATER Western Sydney expects to have an answer from Adam Treloar on his future within the next 14 days, with skipper Callan Ward confident the star midfielder will re-sign with the Giants.
The 22-year-old has ben the centre of speculation all year after he told the club he wanted to delay contract talks until the end of the season.
The Victorian native has been linked to Collingwood, North Melbourne and Richmond, with lucrative offers on the table to secure his services.
Coach Leon Cameron said he would sit down with Treloar after Wednesday to discuss his contract after the completion of individual player reviews.
"We'll probably have a good indication in the next 14 days," Cameron said after the Giants' final game of 2015.
"He'd love to stay at our footy club, but he's got a big decision to make. There are some big clubs around Australia that are after his services and we are as well.
"Hopefully we can convince him to stay at our footy club, but these are big decisions when you're 22 years old."
Ward knows all too well what Treloar is going through.
The 25-year-old's last season with the Western Bulldogs was marred by constant speculation over his future, with Ward eventually departing the Whitten Oval at the end of 2011 to take up a huge deal with GWS.
Ward told AFL.com.au he had not yet spoken to Treloar about his situation, but had been hoping the young midfielder would approach him for advice.
The captain admitted it was a tough decision for his teammate to make, but believed he would be playing at the Giants next year.
"In my heart I think he'll stay," Ward said.
"I really do hope he does, the boys love him and he loves the footy club, so it's a huge decision he has to make."
"I've actually been waiting for him to speak to me, I was hoping he would come to me but he hasn't yet.
"There's no reason why I think he should leave.
"I know for a fact that he'd love to stay here, but as you know with football these days it's a business and players like him who have huge talent and huge potential, and are already stars of the game, really, attract huge offers."
Treloar is the last high-profile youngster yet to re-commit to the Giants.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-06/giants-to-hear-from-treloar-within-two-weeks
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14 days. I see the expectation is a maximum of 2 weeks of finals
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we may still be in the treloar battle based on this decision date
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Pies/GWS season's are over & given that Dixon has already announced his preferred Club, if the media aren't reporting Treloar has decided on Pies tomorrow we may be able to get a bit excited. the extended date beyond the end of pies/GWS season does suggest it could well be us
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14 days. I see the expectation is a maximum of 2 weeks of finals
exactly my thoughts though better give him 21 days :shh
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14 days. I see the expectation is a maximum of 2 weeks of finals
exactly my thoughts though better give him 21 days :shh
Aye to be sure :clapping :clapping :clapping
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He'll be like a new recruit
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He'll be like a new recruit
Are we getting Foley out of retirement? ;D
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players. No doubt they'll be dressing up some new poo truck at the end of the season to try and sell memberships.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players.
Greenwood? :lol
Adams? :lol
Jesse White? Karneszis? Armstrong?
Treloar will be their first decent player they've picked up since David Cloke.
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Hahahahahaha :birthday :birthday :birthday
The best in the business we have down at Punt Road. Blair Dan and Hackson
The 3 stooges
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players.
Greenwood? :lol
Adams? :lol
Jesse White? Karneszis? Armstrong?
Treloar will be their first decent player they've picked up since David Cloke.
Scum make Blair look like a homeless bum every trade period. Headed that way again this year also
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Don't despair Knighter we are getting Yarran. Nothing is more certain
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players. No doubt they'll be dressing up some new poo truck at the end of the season to try and sell memberships.
How is it the fault of anyone at the RFC that the player has chosen another club?
RFC have offered the same as or possibly more than Collingwood, so to suggest that it's the RFCs fault or they have failed is laughable.
The player Treloar, has chosen a club; that's his choice. Not the fault of anyone at the RFC.
You can offer the world but of a player doesn't want to come then Not much you can do it
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Rubbish WP. You need to sell a club to a jet like him. Those 3 flogs should be upgraded. Bloody hopeless
As a kid who will you listen to Neil Balme or Dan the hack
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players. No doubt they'll be dressing up some new poo truck at the end of the season to try and sell memberships.
How is it the fault of anyone at the RFC that the player has chosen another club?
RFC have offered the same as or possibly more than Collingwood, so to suggest that it's the RFCs fault or they have failed is laughable.
The player Treloar, has chosen a club; that's his choice. Not the fault of anyone at the RFC.
You can offer the world but of a player doesn't want to come then Not much you can do it
He chose the Scum for a reason WP. Very likely that reason is because the Scum worked harder, sold the future better, treated him better, sucked up more et al. Whatever the stuffen hell it was its Blair and Dans job to do it better. No excuses! Both been miserable failures in the trading department to date.
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Would have liked him at rfc but we just move on. Probably a bit over priced for mine.
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You can have a club of choice that's fine. Does not mean he'll end up there if the trade falls through.
Something about water passing under a bridge.
If he ends up at the Pies good luck to him, but how good a club and its war chest off field is, will most certainly be judged post season not during September especially when we have a finals campaign that we are embarking on with the mandatory need to win this Sunday.
Take a deep breath all.
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Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who wil win the "Battle of Treloar"?
So i guess this recent news means that Balme wins the battle with a TKO?
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Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who wil win the "Battle of Treloar"?
So i guess this recent news means that Balme wins the battle with a TKO?
And the media was spruiking that Buddy was going to GWS right up until he announced he wasn't.......
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Time to send Blair and Dan packing
Not much bloody good having a war chest if the Scum keep getting all the stuffen decent players.
Greenwood? :lol
Adams? :lol
Jesse White? Karneszis? Armstrong?
Treloar will be their first decent player they've picked up since David Cloke.
Adams will be a good player
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Don't want yarran.
Don't care for moptop.
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Treloar pfffffffft.....
Tre-who?
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Treloar to pick Pies as preferred destination
Herald-Sun
September 8, 2015
GREATER Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar is set to nominate Collingwood as his preferred new home.
The slick onballer is expected to tell Giants chiefs at his end-of-season meeting today that he wants to be traded.
The Giants will want at least one first round draft pick in return. They also have an interest in Pies’ ruckman Jarrod Witts.
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Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley confirmed on Monday night the Pies have spoken to Adam Treloar’s management but are yet to learn of any decision surrounding his future.
“We’ve been in conversations with his management and we’re keen to further those conversations once he’s made his decision on whether he’s staying or not,” Buckley said on AFL360.
“Adam Treloar is still a GWS player. As far as we know, he still hasn’t spoken to GWS about whether he’s staying or going, so that needs to play out first.”
Treloar, 22, has averaged 25 possessions over his 79 games.
The only other two players to average more than 25 disposals before turning 23 years old are Cats’ captain Joel Selwood and St Kilda champion Robert Harvey, according to Champion Data.
— With Kate Salemme
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adam-treloar-set-to-tell-gws-giants-he-wishes-to-be-traded-to-collingwood/story-fni5f6hd-1227516862571
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Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who wil win the "Battle of Treloar"?
So i guess this recent news means that Balme wins the battle with a TKO?
And the media was spruiking that Buddy was going to GWS right up until he announced he wasn't.......
Give it up bud it's over. We got Yazz for our first pick so it's happy days
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Neil Balme vs Dan Richardson
Who wil win the "Battle of Treloar"?
So i guess this recent news means that Balme wins the battle with a TKO?
I remember when it was first mentioned we should aim for Balme a few were laughing on here that he would never leave the cats. Now look at his record and look at the ex footy manager spud we have trying to and failing to get each one over to punt road
No wonder we are left with your yarran trengrove types. Like a bloke at 3am in a club is dan Richardson. Just willing to take anything so he looks good
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Rubbish WP. You need to sell a club to a jet like him. Those 3 flogs should be upgraded. Bloody hopeless
As a kid who will you listen to Neil Balme or Dan the hack
Think everyone knows what I think of Hartley. This situation has nothing to do with Jackson so why you've bought him to it outside you totally dislike for the bloke I don't know
And how do you know they haven't sold the club to him. They have and....
An individual has made a choice, one by the way he has to live with
The kid doesn't want to be at our Club; fine. He has made that choice. I only want players who WANT to be at our club, this one doesn't
We move on
And BTW Don is right, he may want to go to Collinwood but that doesn't mean he will get there. He has to be traded or risk the PSD. GWS will do the best deal for themselves he could end up anywhere including the RFC
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I don't want him at Richmond if hes preferred destination is Collingwood.
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
WAT has asked a very good question one that I myself would like answered as well. We cant continually fail like this in terms of being able to lure a big name player. At some stage the RFC has to make a statement that it has arrived as a powerhouse club again. That time is now. They should go after Dangerfield. Offer him $1 million a year for 6 years.
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I don't want him at Richmond if hes preferred destination is Collingwood.
so you didnt want dusty when he was walking around gws headquarters?
come on its a farce what they do with our cash
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
WAT has asked a very good question one that I myself would like answered as well. We cant continually fail like this in terms of being able to lure a big name player. At some stage the RFC has to make a statement that it has arrived as a powerhouse club again. That time is now. They should go after Dangerfield. Offer him $1 million a year for 6 years.
YES!
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
Westpac interest free loans is ducking dodgy
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I don't want him at Richmond if hes preferred destination is Collingwood.
so you didnt want dusty when he was walking around gws headquarters?
come on its a farce what they do with our cash
I think Dustin was different he went for a walkabout in west Sydney but his heart was at Richmond. Treloar if he chooses Collingwood would show that his heart isn't in it at Richmond.
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I don't want him at Richmond if hes preferred destination is Collingwood.
so you didnt want dusty when he was walking around gws headquarters?
come on its a farce what they do with our cash
I think Dustin was different he went for a walkabout in west Sydney but his heart was at Richmond. Treloar if he chooses Collingwood would show that his heart isn't in it at Richmond.
getting a bit deep
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
Not as much competition for spots either at clubs like Melbourne and Saints.
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
Not as much competition for spots either at clubs like Melbourne and Saints.
yeah no doubt trelor would be shaking in his boots - thinking about trying to get a game ahead of grigg and gordon
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
The Dr is spot on the money here
Also throw in the fact that players who chose Melb & St Kilda are guarantted games, no ifs, no buts, no maybes. Locked in guaranteed games.
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
I can tell you why they choose the pies. Same reason Judd chose Carlton. Guaranteed income after football. Eddie can do that. As to Dees and Saints, they pay much more for their players than most are prepared to. Which big name have they snared?
The Dr is spot on the money here
Also throw in the fact that players who chose Melb & St Kilda are guarantted games, no ifs, no buts, no maybes. Locked in guaranteed games.
yep judd and trelor both thought to themself "gee its hard to get a game at the tigers, i better go elsewhere" :lol
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
Treloar has (reportedly) made a choice. His choice is to leave his current club and go elsewhere. Just so happens the elsewhere isn't Richmond
Motlop also made a choice. His choice was to stay loyal to his existing club.
Buit I haven't seen the same angst in his decision and us missing out on him as people seem to appear have with Treloar's.
It's exactly the same thing, but it would seem in the case of Motlop the RFC haven't failed but in the Treloar situation they have failed.
Kid doens't want to come to RFC, the so be it.... Why doesn't he? TBBH I don't care, simple fact is he doesn't want to so I fail to see the point in caring why
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rumors eddiewood; danger, trelor, kreuzer, aish
... wtf ...
im going to have to up my medication
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yep judd and trelor both thought to themself "gee its hard to get a game at the tigers, i better go elsewhere" :lol
WAT wanted to know why players have chosen the Dees & Saints and I can tell you it's because they are guaranteed games and more money.
Judd chose Carlton because as Doc said he was guaranteed income etc after football
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Honestly though, we need to ask WHY, why is his and many others preferred destinations everywhere else but the RFC???? Hell, some have even chosen the Dees and Saints as their preferred destinations...WHY, WHY, WHY?????
Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
Treloar has (reportedly) made a choice. His choice is to leave his current club and go elsewhere. Just so happens the elsewhere isn't Richmond
Motlop also made a choice. His choice was to stay loyal to his existing club.
Buit I haven't seen the same angst in his decision and us missing out on him as people seem to appear have with Treloar's.
It's exactly the same thing, but it would seem in the case of Motlop the RFC haven't failed but in the Treloar situation they have failed.
Kid doens't want to come to RFC, the so be it.... Why doesn't he? TBBH I don't care, simple fact is he doesn't want to so I fail to see the point in caring why
That's all fine, I agree, but at the end of the day we have to ask, do we have what it takes to lure players to the club, I don't believe we do....
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The panicky Pies buying up every player in Australia to hunt down the mighty Richmond next year.
They might have nice wheels but the driver is peeed.
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Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
This is the important part that no one considers as they wet their panties over not having their big fish syndrome fulfilled
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Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
This is the important part that no one considers as they wet their panties over not having their big fish syndrome fulfilled
Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
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We have been link to Dangerfield treloar and Carlisle. At this point all the articles are just speculation so calm ya farm mate
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We have been link to Dangerfield treloar and Carlisle. At this point all the articles are just speculation so calm ya farm mate
Yeah ok, lets see the end result, I have said that to comments like your since we drafted Nathan Brown and we have had poo since then...
Suppose you will think Yarran is a big catch..God help us.
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I think yarran would be a good addition. But in my opinion.. Stuff paying treloar 700k+ a year anyway
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Well Carlisle has walked out of Essendon and wants to be traded
So now the majority can now get all excited about him perhaps coming to Tigerland (he won't) and then get all upset when he doesn't
And then we can all wait for the next "big fish" and go through the entire sopa opera again ;D
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Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
This is the important part that no one considers as they wet their panties over not having their big fish syndrome fulfilled
Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
where have they said specifically about recruiting big guns/fish/roosters ?
Not about who stays??? really?
Its not important? Really?
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Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
Not about who ends up staying?
You really can't be serious with that comment can you?
For half the season people were stressing about Rance not having re-signed, ditto Deledio a couple years back and let's not even talk about the vitriol 3 years back when Dusty was unsigned ... so to even suggest it isn't about who's staying is ...well.... silly
All the club has ever said is that they have a war chest so that they would be in a strong position to sign free agents and retain our core group, you know those blokes commonly referred to as "A" graders
Will say it again, if players chose to not want to come to our club that's their choice and I don't care. The Club should not under any circumstances compromise what it's achieved and what it's clearly building towards just to appease a minority who seem obsessed with needing to score a "big fish" at any cost.
I'd rather have Martin, Rance, Deledio, Reiwoldt and Cotchn locked away and committed to our club rather than throwing mega $$ at a kid who doesn't want to be part of something special
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I'd rather have Martin, Rance, Deledio, Reiwoldt and Cotchn locked away and committed to our club rather than throwing mega $$ at a kid who doesn't want to be part of something special
Well there you go. WP and I agree.
:lol
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Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
Not about who ends up staying?
You really can't be serious with that comment can you?
For half the season people were stressing about Rance not having re-signed, ditto Deledio a couple years back and let's not even talk about the vitriol 3 years back when Dusty was unsigned ... so to even suggest it isn't about who's staying is ...well.... silly
All the club has ever said is that they have a war chest so that they would be in a strong position to sign free agents and retain our core group, you know those blokes commonly referred to as "A" graders
Will say it again, if players chose to not want to come to our club that's their choice and I don't care. The Club should not under any circumstances compromise what it's achieved and what it's clearly building towards just to appease a minority who seem obsessed with needing to score a "big fish" at any cost.
I'd rather have Martin, Rance, Deledio, Reiwoldt and Cotchn locked away and committed to our club rather than throwing mega $$ at a kid who doesn't want to be part of something special
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Treloar's management officially nominate Pies on SEN :thumbsdown
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sickening
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Fingers crossed we told Treloar we could no longer afford him after agreeing to terms with Dangerfield behind closed doors.
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he looks like a typical buck tooth pies player :thumbsdown
stuff him and eddie, can play soggie biscuit with that nugget muncher Pendleberry
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his the pies version of dan the man. Shame he wasnt ready to leave the cats :lol
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Surprised by treloar decision ,I had him pencilled as an almost certainty.
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he looks like a typical buck tooth pies player :thumbsdown
stuff him and eddie, can play soggie biscuit with that nugget muncher Pendleberry
^^^^^^^This^^^^^^
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Danger
High voltage
:shh
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Danger
High voltage
:shh
Whoa :shh
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Fingers crossed we told Treloar we could no longer afford him after agreeing to terms with Dangerfield behind closed doors.
lol
this is richmond
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Danger is going to Geelong. I think everybody knows that. Even my wife who doesn't follow the footy asked me if that guy from Adelaide has left for Mogg's Creek yet...... :whistle
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Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
Not about who ends up staying?
You really can't be serious with that comment can you?
For half the season people were stressing about Rance not having re-signed, ditto Deledio a couple years back and let's not even talk about the vitriol 3 years back when Dusty was unsigned ... so to even suggest it isn't about who's staying is ...well.... silly
All the club has ever said is that they have a war chest so that they would be in a strong position to sign free agents and retain our core group, you know those blokes commonly referred to as "A" graders
Will say it again, if players chose to not want to come to our club that's their choice and I don't care. The Club should not under any circumstances compromise what it's achieved and what it's clearly building towards just to appease a minority who seem obsessed with needing to score a "big fish" at any cost.
I'd rather have Martin, Rance, Deledio, Reiwoldt and Cotchn locked away and committed to our club rather than throwing mega $$ at a kid who doesn't want to be part of something special
Ok, it's not about who is staying now because we have sewn everyone up. That is what I meant, this is the time of year we talk about getting a big name because for 3 bloody years we have been building a war chest to lure the likes of Danderfield or Treloar, well that's the crrap we have been fed. So that is what I meant by it doesn't matter, AT THIS POINT IN TIME who is staying, I hope that's clear.
And I will say it again, if players don't want to come to the club it's because we are not appealing enough to them for one reason or another, or we simply do not sell the club or we don't go in hard enough to convince them otherwise.
Will you and others be happy when we can't maintain a standard or succession? At some point we need at least one "big fish" to build around them and the talent in Martin, Cotchin, Jack and um....um.....gee that's about it for star players, isn't it, but no, we never get them... Why is that???
Edit; I will also add Rance and Deledio yo the list of stars because ffs it has been proven that without them two we are screwed. Look at last year without Rance and Deledio and this year without Lids. What does that tell you??
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Danger is going to Geelong. I think everybody knows that. Even my wife who doesn't follow the footy asked me if that guy from Adelaide has left for Mogg's Creek yet...... :whistle
Docs wife is right
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Wouldn't say its garaunteed.. Although he has just done a 300k Reno on his house in moggs and he ain't renting it out :shh
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Wouldn't say its garaunteed.. Although he has just done a 300k Reno on his house in moggs and he ain't renting it out :shh
NickSimo's interior designer is right
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight repeated/confirmed that Treloar has quit the Giants today and has announced Collingwood as his preferred club.
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Do you/we ask why players stay? Why they turn their collective backs on huge offers from other clubs and stay? No you/we don't. We just accept that they want to be at our Club and say thanks
This is the important part that no one considers as they wet their panties over not having their big fish syndrome fulfilled
Then why do the RFC come out all year last year and this year saying they have a war chest to lure big guns to the club. Then some of us react to that because we are linked to no one and every other club seems to be getting the big guns??? its not about who is bloody staying, its about the RFC talking poo and we cant get any big guns when ever!!
where have they said specifically about recruiting big guns/fish/roosters ?
Not about who stays??? really?
Its not important? Really?
Here you go!!!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-club-wants-to-land-big-fish-under-free-agency/story-e6frf9jf-1226003801963
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#sackhardwick
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yeah dans already posted that wat
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worth seeing twice
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Giant eyes Pies: GWS 'unable to meet' Treloar's financial requirements
Adam Curley
afl.com.au
September 8, 2015 5:42 PM
FOOTY'S worst kept trade secret has been confirmed with Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar formally requesting a move in the off-season.
GWS released a statement on Tuesday evening, saying that the Victorian had rejected the club's contract offer to remain a Giant beyond this year.
GWS footy manager Graeme Allan said that the club had done everything in its power to keep Treloar in Sydney.
"We've had an attractive offer in front of Adam's management all year, but ultimately we have been unable to meet his financial requirements.
“We will now pursue the best possible outcome for the Giants."
Treloar is believed to have nominated Collingwood as his club of choice, although a number of Melbourne clubs have expressed interest in the classy on-baller.
The Magpies have reportedly offered Treloar a long-term deal believed to be worth about $750,000 a season, although Richmond is also believed to be extremely keen to win his services.
Read more: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-08/giant-eyes-pies-gws-unable-to-meet-treloars-financial-requirements
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Hey Treloar EAFD u bogan flog
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Hey Treloar EAFD u bogan flog
Yessssss Big Man :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Hey Treloar EAFD u bogan flog
Yessssss Big Man :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Yesssssss :cheers :cheers Unless you come to Tiger Land :rollin
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Hey Treloar EAFD u bogan flog
Yessssss Big Man :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Yesssssss :cheers :cheers Unless you come to Tiger Land :rollin
:lol
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Hey Treloar EAFD u bogan flog
Yessssss Big Man :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Yesssssss :cheers :cheers Unless you come to Tiger Land :rollin
:lol
Doc affirms. Treloars diagnosis - Bellenditis :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Adam Treloar requests a trade from GWS
SEN
08 Sep 2015, 06:38PM
GWS have been advised tonight that Adam Treloar has rejected the club's contract offer and will seek a trade to the Collingwood football club.
Treloar’s manager Peter Blucher told SEN’s The Run Home the 22-year-old was always coming back to Victoria.
“After five terrific years in Sydney he’s decided the lure of home and footy heartland and friends and family is such that he wants to go home,” Blucher said.
“And after weighing up some extraordinarily generous offers from a lot of clubs he’s made a decision to prefer to go to Collingwood.”
“He was never ever considering going anywhere else but coming home.”
UPDATE: Collingwood have released the following statement on Tuesday night:
“Naturally, we’re thrilled that Adam has decided Collingwood is where he would like the rest of his career to unfold,” Collingwood General Manager of List Management Derek Hine said.
“He would fit into any team but at 22 years of age he is on the cusp of his best years, which is where we see the majority of our list is at. In that regard he is a wonderful fit.
“We will now work with Greater Western Sydney and Adam’s agent at Vivid Sport Management, Peter Blucher, to come to an arrangement.”
http://www.sen.com.au/news/09-15/adam-treloar-requests-a-trade-from-gws
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STUFF them BOTH :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
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"Naturally were thrilled".....
Thrill this r - soles
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Hope GWS have greased themselves up for a trade ravaging from Colonwood again lol
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People underestimate the young talent Collingwood have. They're going to fly back past most teams in a couple of years
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Adam Treloar requests trade from GWS Giants to Collingwood
Herald-Sun
September 9, 2015
COLLINGWOOD will secure Adam Treloar on a monster deal in next month’s trade period with the lure of playing in front of big crowds at the MCG helping convince the midfield jet to quit Greater Western Sydney.
Treloar and manager Peter Blucher told Giants coach Leon Cameron and football manager Graeme Allan at 5pm on Tuesday he wanted to join the Magpies where he will reunite with coach Nathan Buckley, who coached him at under-16 level.
Treloar, 22, and longtime girlfriend Kelsey Tomkins decided the pull of family, friends — Treloar and mum Darlene are close — and footy’s heartland was too strong after spending five years in Sydney.
The Herald Sun believes the Magpies have tabled a six-year offer worth about $4 million.
Richmond and North Melbourne heavily pursued GWS foundation player Treloar, while the Giants have had a contract offer on the table all season.
It is believed the Magpies would happily part with their first-round pick — currently No. 8 — and a sweetener such as ruckman Jarrod Witts for Treloar, but the Giants are expected to ask for two early picks.
They could request pick No. 8 and Collingwood’s first selection in 2016, while the Magpies remain interested in Brisbane Lion James Aish and have entered the race for Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer.
The Giants need to stockpile early picks to pay for academy stars Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy under the new draft points bidding system.
The Giants averaged crowds of 18,274 this season, well below Collingwood’s 48,002.
Treloar has played in front of just two 40,000-plus crowds.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/adam-treloar-requests-trade-from-gws-giants-to-collingwood/story-fndv8lf1-1227518270925
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Chris Yarran is yet to formally request a trade – most likely to Richmond – but the Blues are expecting that to happen soon.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-carlisle-to-leave-essendon-20150908-gjhmmh.html
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Pies to pay Treloar $700k p.a. for six years.
Trades galore as Adam Treloar seeks to become a Magpie
Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall
The Age
September 9, 2015
Giants star midfielder Adam Treloar has told the club he wants to be traded to Collingwood in a deal that could potentially also include the skilful running player Curtly Hampton moving to the Magpies.
Treloar and his manager Peter Blucher of Vivid Management met GWS coach Leon Cameron and football manager Graeme Allan late Tuesday afternoon and told them he wanted to return to Victoria and asked for them to negotiate with Collingwood for a trade there.
Blucher confirmed his out-of-contract client wanted to "return to play in football's heartland ... we are comfortable and confident a fair and reasonable trade can be done with Collingwood".
The Giants said they would seek significant compensation for a player they considered a superstar entering the fifth year of his career. Collingwood will certainly be required to give up as a minimum their first pick in the draft, currently pick seven, as part of a deal as the Giants want draft picks in order to secure talented northern academy players.
Blucher contacted Richmond immediately after the meeting to inform them Treloar had chosen Collingwood after the Tigers had also made a significant offer for the midfielder. North Melbourne had also made a strong play for Treloar.
Tigers will look at other recruiting targets, in addition to Carlton's Chris Yarran. The Tigers had offered up their first picks for 2015 and 2016 in return for Treloar.
Treloar is understood to have received a six-year contract offer of close to $700,000 a year from Collingwood. The Giants had offered a shorter-term contract on significantly lower money.
Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley coached the 22-year-old when he played for Vic Country as a junior and Treloar was a teammate of Magpies midfielder Taylor Adams at the Giants.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trades-galore-as-adam-treloar-seeks-to-become-a-magpie-20150908-gjhxzf.html
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If that's true then there isn't much more we could do and treloar just wanted to play for the bogans. Hopefully shuts up the sooks
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If that's true then there isn't much more we could do and treloar just wanted to play for the bogans. Hopefully shuts up the sooks
:clapping
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You blew it RFC... :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
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This is crap if we pick this guy up. Would be a turn off for any top player to come to the club knowing Yarran will be there....POOR CHOICE RFC....very poor!!!!
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You blew it RFC... :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
No mate dan and Blair blew it. Couldn't organise a root in a brother those 2
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Wanker of the highest order and yet they don't want to look at Bennell
No idea this club in trading
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People underestimate the young talent Collingwood have. They're going to fly back past most teams in a couple of years
On talent alone maybe. However, a good team has a lot more ingredients in it than just talent. I am happy that a 22 year old isn't being paid more than guys who are better players currently and have been busting their backsides for the club for years.
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
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Wanker of the highest order and yet they don't want to look at Bennell
No idea this club in trading
:thumbsup
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
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Hahahahahaha this just gets better and better
Chech and Chong claiming the big fish. Gee whiz
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
LOL clueless flog. He was played like a fiddle by Treloar and co.
1st and 2nd rounder for Yarran coming up
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
LOL clueless flog. He was played like a fiddle by Treloar and co.
1st and 2nd rounder for Yarran coming up
If that happens I'm done with this club and their poo trading.
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Im pretty gutted by the outcome, but certainly dont hold Gale responsible. The sources I know say that he was a done deal over a year ago anyway, so not sure how much we could have done beyond offering an extra 200k on top of the pies. The only responsible thing to do is absolutely bury him and flog the pies for the next ten years of his career.
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That's the Spirit RFC, let's try and polish another Turd from the bowels of "he's got potential"
This stuffing idiot is a dud of the highest order! Where is he going to fit into the side?
He's fat, he's lazy and looks to be the most disinterested footballer to ever pull on a guernsey!
Don't bother Tigers, let's look at someone like Trent McKenzie, at least he can kick!
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Now they are saying Carlisle has nominated the Pies too, FFS, we couldn't attract flies if we were a piece of poo. :help
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Let's pee Blair off and get Greg Miller back. At least he has a proven history of being able to land A Graders. GM would have landed AT for sure
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That's the Spirit RFC, let's try and polish another Turd from the bowels of "he's got potential"
This stuffing idiot is a dud of the highest order! Where is he going to fit into the side?
He's fat, he's lazy and looks to be the most disinterested footballer to ever pull on a guernsey!
Don't bother Tigers, let's look at someone like Trent McKenzie, at least he can kick!
Couldnt disagree more. Guy is a jet who's lost his way. A RFC speciality. Will win a Norm Smith at rfc! :cheers
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That's the Spirit RFC, let's try and polish another Turd from the bowels of "he's got potential"
This stuffing idiot is a dud of the highest order! Where is he going to fit into the side?
He's fat, he's lazy and looks to be the most disinterested footballer to ever pull on a guernsey!
Don't bother Tigers, let's look at someone like Trent McKenzie, at least he can kick!
Couldnt disagree more. Guy is a jet who's lost his way. A RFC speciality. Will win a Norm Smith at rfc! :cheers
:help
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Now they are saying Carlisle has nominated the Pies too, FFS, we couldn't attract flies if we were a piece of poo. :help
Not true. Had s medical with the saints yesterday......
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Now they are saying Carlisle has nominated the Pies too, FFS, we couldn't attract flies if we were a piece of poo. :help
Not true. Had s medical with the saints yesterday......
That's not true either!! confirmed by his manager this morning.....
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KB on SEN this morning not backing down on his Treloar to tiges statement. :huh :huh :huh
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KB on SEN this morning not backing down on his Treloar to tiges statement. :huh :huh :huh
He's only nominated
Doesn't mean much
If we don't get a benell, danger or trelor
An amazingly large truck filled with poo going to punt road
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JHC, what will be will be,
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JHC, what will be will be,
Bollocks with that hippie crap
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Wanker of the highest order and yet they don't want to look at Bennell
No idea this club in trading
Yep funny that isn't it
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KB on SEN this morning not backing down on his Treloar to tiges statement. :huh :huh :huh
He's only nominated
Doesn't mean much
Players usually end up where they nominate so means a bit. But there are precedents of players going elsewhere....
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KB on SEN this morning not backing down on his Treloar to tiges statement. :huh :huh :huh
He's only nominated
Doesn't mean much
Players usually end up where they nominate so means a bit. But there are precedents of players going elsewhere....
But it's not every day the so called, best young player in the league moves
Gws won't gaf where he wants to go , they now have no reason to
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KB on SEN this morning not backing down on his Treloar to tiges statement. :huh :huh :huh
He's only nominated
Doesn't mean much
Players usually end up where they nominate so means a bit. But there are precedents of players going elsewhere....
But it's not every day the so called, best young player in the league moves
Gws won't gaf where he wants to go , they now have no reason to
Agreed, we're still in with a fighting chance, just need to tempt GWS with more than what the Pies will offer. Surely our First rounders from '15 and '16 is a hard offer to beat. Best part is, if they try and match it, they trade themselves out of drafts during a rebuild phase ;D ;D ;D
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On talent alone maybe. However, a good team has a lot more ingredients in it than just talent. I am happy that a 22 year old isn't being paid more than guys who are better players currently and have been busting their backsides for the club for years.
Agree
The only player that would have been paid more than Treloar if he came to the RFC would be the Captain. Think the other big 4 are worth more than that and some kid 2 years in the system should be paid more than them
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Yes sir
If we don't get - and least make the pies sell the sheep station to get him
It's be less painful if we, made it so they pies had to pay three decent picks, or something
And another 200k
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On talent alone maybe. However, a good team has a lot more ingredients in it than just talent. I am happy that a 22 year old isn't being paid more than guys who are better players currently and have been busting their backsides for the club for years.
Agree
The only player that would have been paid more than Treloar if he came to the RFC would be the Captain. Think the other big 4 are worth more than that
Sigh
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
Sounds to me like they maybe want RFC to match the Collingwood offer, playing hard ball type scenario. Isn't over just yet imo, but we're 40 points down going into the last quarter.
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
Surely it couldnt just be that alone, we are closer to a flag then the tossers... must have been something else as well.
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Only reason he'll get paid more than our other studs is because they took the pay cut FOR THIS EXACT REASON
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Only reason he'll get paid more than our other studs is because they took the pay cut FOR THIS EXACT REASON
:bow :bow :bow
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
Bump
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
Surely it couldnt just be that alone, we are closer to a flag then the tossers... must have been something else as well.
For some blokes it is
Also, don't dismiss the fact the kid has a relationship with Buckley from his under age days. Played a big part is my understanding
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
Surely it couldnt just be that alone, we are closer to a flag then the tossers... must have been something else as well.
Sources I know say it was Collingwood all along, so perhaps the Richmond offers made him stop and think, but nothing more? But from the maths it might have been 100k to 150k a season more for 6 years. That's almost enough isn't it?
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
Surely it couldnt just be that alone, we are closer to a flag then the tossers... must have been something else as well.
For some blokes it is
Also, don't dismiss the fact the kid has a relationship with Buckley from his under age days. Played a big part is my understanding
Yeah I suppose... :'(...oh well like you said, it's done.
Bartlett still on SEN saying that he believes Treloar still wants to go to the Tigers.. :-\ :huh
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5 sec ago:
kb: trelor wants to come to richmond
:lol
yeeeeees great man :clapping
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Only reason he'll get paid more than our other studs is because they took the pay cut FOR THIS EXACT REASON
but he will be 2nd highest paid player!!
omg!!
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Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
More $$$ I believe
For some blokes it is
Also, don't dismiss the fact the kid has a relationship with Buckley from his under age days. Played a big part is my understanding
Apparently he was close with Choco as well?
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
Bump
hardwick only wants good kicks (lol) and good blokes (lol), and yarren
remember?
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
bookmark it.
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
Bump
hardwick only wants good kicks (lol) and good blokes (lol), and yarren
remember?
If Hardwick doesn't want this guy at the club, should we get rid of Hardwick?? :rollin
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
I agree with WP time to move on
WAT, who know? Probably offered ridiculous things gst like free Star clothing for him family and friends, interest free loans through West package, Free commodore, jobs after footy.
We know how much poo and dribble collingwood fans talk, imagine people that work at the club.
The best way to describe a pies supporter mentatlity is this.
You tell them your kids are through and through Tigers supporters, they will never barack for another club. And if anyone tried to sway them they would be beaten to a pulp and set alight.
The moment you turn your back, they've got their arm around your kid and encouraging them to say go pies.
They are the filthiest pieces of crap I have ever come across, and I hate them more than the Cheats.
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
I agree with WP time to move on
WAT, who know? Probably offered ridiculous things gst like free Star clothing for him family and friends, interest free loans through West package, Free commodore, jobs after footy.
We know how much poo and dribble collingwood fans talk, imagine people that work at the club.
The best way to describe a pies supporter mentatlity is this.
You tell them your kids are through and through Tigers supporters, they will never barack for another club. And if anyone tried to sway them they would be beaten to a pulp and set alight.
The moment you turn your back, they've got their arm around your kid and encouraging them to say go pies.
They are the filthiest pieces of crap I have ever come across, and I hate them more than the Cheats.
what are the richmond sponsors doing?
thumps up bottoms?
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Just sayig on SEN that as of last night Brendan Gayle was spruking off saying that we had landed Treloar..FFS, they don't have a clue..
Link to actual comment or it didn't happen!
Go look for it, I have just listened to it. The RFC thought they had him...gee do we have a clue??
Yeah last week word around the traps was he was mostly likely going to the RFC
His manager said yesterday he only settled on C'wood in the last 24 hours
Think it is interesting that the manager also said that he called the Tigers to tell them Treloar's decision. The Tigers were the only club out of the supposed suitors that he called. This is not standard practice. Clear to me the Tigers were in this up until the last minute
Kids made a choice,
Time to move on
Would really love to know though why he went to the Pies, what was the selling point that gave them that little bit of an extra edge to get him.. :-\
I agree with WP time to move on
WAT, who know? Probably offered ridiculous things gst like free Star clothing for him family and friends, interest free loans through West package, Free commodore, jobs after footy.
We know how much poo and dribble collingwood fans talk, imagine people that work at the club.
The best way to describe a pies supporter mentatlity is this.
You tell them your kids are through and through Tigers supporters, they will never barack for another club. And if anyone tried to sway them they would be beaten to a pulp and set alight.
The moment you turn your back, they've got their arm around your kid and encouraging them to say go pies.
They are the filthiest pieces of crap I have ever come across, and I hate them more than the Cheats.
:thumbsup ;D
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so 51 pages of piffle and Treloar and Motlop nowhere to be seen, just leaves Yarran??
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Wanker of the highest order and yet they don't want to look at Bennell
No idea this club in trading
Would rather the " Wanker" than this cocaine snorting , waste of talent kid who is going to require constant babysitting .
Actually what would be perfect is if the club unearthed another Miles/Lambert.
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Herald-Sun
September 9, 2015
RICHMOND
The Tigers have a war chest and are prepared to spend it on a blue-chip midfielder — the only problem is they were outbid by Collingwood on Adam Treloar after missing out on Dan Hannebery, Dylan Shiel and David Armitage.
If negotiations between GWS and the Magpies break down expect Richmond to jump back in but their attention now turns to Carlton’s Chris Yarran and possibly Matthew Kreuzer, who is good mates with Trent Cotchin and could be a long-term successor to Ivan Maric.
One area Richmond has had success is locking up its own players with the club’s stars all signed up including most recently Alex Rance.
CARLTON
Will be big players in trade talks that could land the Blues the top two picks in November’s draft. They already have pick one after finishing last and could have the second pick as well if Matthew Kreuzer leaves as a free agent and gets a big contract from suiters including Collingwood and Richmond, triggering a first-round compensation pick.
Chris Yarran is on Richmond’s radar, although the latest word is Brendon Bolton might try to change his mind.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fndv8lf1-1227519452756
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So that article says it all again....yes we have locked in our players but gee we have missed out on some talent!!!
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Moneyball WINS AGAIN :thumbsdown
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I think once the season is over for the tigers we will hear a bit more we have bigger things on the radar at the moment winning sunday then a chance against Sydney.. win these 2 make a prelim and then may trigger some players to think..
Aish we wont get I still think jury is out about him wouldn't take him.
treloar looks set for Collingwood but u just never know I rmeber they put tony locket in a Richmond jumper once and wanted to play with us gee if only. and Collingwood want to give them a draft pick and witts please we would have something better then that wouldn't we
Bennell he has the most upside I feel new environment get his head switch on caould be a major major player.
Krusier if he is fit maybe but really how many talls do we want ty,griffo,mcbean ,ivan clearly one would need to go.
Yarran probably the one we will get who knows what he would bring pace yes hardness yes but were is he at in footy no one knows.
Carlise still think he is the smokey out of all this hardwick likes the player
danger if only would be bigger then the beatles would leave dusty dids up forward he rates in the top5 of the afl system would be what we want and that big fish we have longed for.
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Let's see how negotiations go in regards to AT.
It's not over.
I've got a feeling we will be offering a better deal to the Giants. :thumbsup
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
Bump
well it works like this. If we dont hear a story about in the media then it didnt happen.
sheesh ::)
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Since when were we not interested in Bennell?
Bump
well it works like this. If we dont hear a story about in the media then it didnt happen.
sheesh ::)
My bad 8) 8) 8)
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I absolutely love trade talk, can't get enough of it, but one thing we all have to remind ourselves, It doesn't start for almost a month. Plenty can happen, still have my fingers crossed on Treloar. If we offer up those two first rounders the Collywobbles will be sweating bullets, have to go harder than what they are at the moment.
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I'd be disappointed if we give a 1st rounder for this bloke for the blooze then for them to pass it
on for AT with another pick they get for Henderson.
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If we only ended up with Aish & Bennell Id be pretty happy with that. Classy players who would add a lot to us.
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Ch 7's Tom Browne's twitter ...
Q. Hey Tommy you just reported on 7 news that treloar deal not wrapt up with coll & blues still a chance @TomBrowne7 what's the mail mate.
Browne - "plus it think currently deal's contingent on Kruezer going to pies. That's only possible, at best #treloar"
Browne - "@GWSGIANTS won't just hand treloar to pies. Deal's not done. Yes players usually get their preference. SOS still in play."
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/with_replies
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/lachie-henderson-working-hard-on-fitness-before-trade-period/story-fni5f5nx-1227519131867
hendo > chappy
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Jaeger O'Meara? ? :shh
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Jaeger O'Meara? ? :shh
now we are talking
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Let's see how negotiations go in regards to AT.
It's not over.
I've got a feeling we will be offering a better deal to the Giants. :thumbsup
Let it go.
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Let's see how negotiations go in regards to AT.
It's not over.
I've got a feeling we will be offering a better deal to the Giants. :thumbsup
Let it go.
why?
it doesnt mean poo who he nominates
it matter what gws accept for him
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Let's see how negotiations go in regards to AT.
It's not over.
I've got a feeling we will be offering a better deal to the Giants. :thumbsup
Let it go.
why?
it doesnt mean poo who he nominates
it matter what gws accept for him
Collingwood have reportedly offered up there first round pick and Witts.
If that gets the job done I'll spew up!!!
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Let's see how negotiations go in regards to AT.
It's not over.
I've got a feeling we will be offering a better deal to the Giants. :thumbsup
Let it go.
why?
it doesnt mean poo who he nominates
it matter what gws accept for him
Collingwood have reportedly offered up there first round pick and Witts.
If that gets the job done I'll spew up!!!
collingwood - gc dealing have been fishy from the get go
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They were absolute pricks to trade with last year when beams wanted to leave. They wanted the moon for him. Hopefully theyre just as moronic this time around and talks break down.
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2010
IN: Jonathon Ceglar (Murray U18, Gold Coast pre-list), Andrew Krakouer (Swan Districts, Gold Coast pre-list), draft selection No. 55, draft selection No. 77 (Trent Stubbs, NSW-ACT U18), draft selection No. 92 Rookie Elevation (Lachlan Keeffe, Collingwood)
OUT: Draft selection No. 25 (Patrick Karnezis) (Gold Coast)
IN: Round three compensatory selection
OUT: Josh Fraser (Gold Coast)
IN: Chris Tarrant (Fremantle), draft selection No. 45 (Alex Fasolo, East Fremantle)
OUT: Draft selection No. 44 (Viv Michie), draft selection No. 56 (Josh Mellington)
IN: Draft selection No. 45 (Daniel Farmer, Sandringham U18)
OUT: Round three compensatory selection (West Coast)
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-10-13/collingwoods-trade-history
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stuff off
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MONEYBALL PEOPLE! THATS ALL! JUST MONEYBALL!
We will get nothing decent again this year and the club does nothing for the supporters in terms of bringing in a decent name player. Its a joke.
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Kruezer strongly linked to Collingwood, again it seems they're offering him more beans. I don't want to have to pay massive overs for these guys but we might end up with nothing, which means Chris Yarran is the only thing standing between us and a total trade period disaster. :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
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I would happily see us trade for Lycett from WCE he will never be first ruck as long as Natanui is there. Conca and a pick could get it done IMHO. Lycett is still young and he is a much better option than Kruezer IMHO.
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I would happily see us trade for Lycett from WCE he will never be first ruck as long as Natanui is there. Conca and a pick could get it done IMHO. Lycett is still young and he is a much better option than Kruezer IMHO.
good call.
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I would happily see us trade for Lycett from WCE he will never be first ruck as long as Natanui is there. Conca and a pick could get it done IMHO. Lycett is still young and he is a much better option than Kruezer IMHO.
I remember the name, I think Claw was pretty keen on picking him up a few years back.
We definitely need added ruck stocks and a few people are forgetting this by throwing all their big fish hopes into the one basket.
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I would happily see us trade for Lycett from WCE he will never be first ruck as long as Natanui is there. Conca and a pick could get it done IMHO. Lycett is still young and he is a much better option than Kruezer IMHO.
I remember the name, I think Claw was pretty keen on picking him up a few years back.
We definitely need added ruck stocks and a few people are forgetting this by throwing all their big fish hopes into the one basket.
If we give Conca they should be giving us a pick not the other way around
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Lycett is a very good ruckman. Conca is run of the mill midfield we wont be getting any draft pick in return for Lycett even a straight swap would be a massive win for Richmond.
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I rate Sinclair more than Lycett but yes good call rampster
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I rate Sinclair more than Lycett but yes good call rampster
So do the eagles I believe that's why Lycett is more gettable in my opinion.
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
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your kidding yourself if you think wce are gonna delist lycett lol
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Would trade Conca for sure.
What has Conca actually accomplished? Basically nothing. Kelvin Moore MkII - one of our best players as soon as he's injured. Or Tambling is a good comparison - high pick, has talent, no consistency and just doesn't deliver.
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Would trade Conca for sure.
What has Conca actually accomplished? Basically nothing. Kelvin Moore MkII - one of our best players as soon as he's injured. Or Tambling is a good comparison - high pick, has talent, no consistency and just doesn't deliver.
Done more on his little toe than Lycett has done his whole career to date.....Not saying no to Lycett but giving up Conca for him is not going to happen. IMO he is not even in their top 30 players so if we want him we could have him for a lot less.
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
No way on earth would he be delisted , good player . And the best replacement option for Maric, more durable than Kruezer and better player than leunberger , who has too much Trent knobel about him
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
No way on earth would he be delisted , good player . And the best replacement option for Maric, more durable than Kruezer and better player than leunberger , who has too much Trent knobel about him
bad post, and got real bad at the end
poor form
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
No way on earth would he be delisted , good player . And the best replacement option for Maric, more durable than Kruezer and better player than leunberger , who has too much Trent knobel about him
A Hartley black book special? :shh
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
No way on earth would he be delisted , good player . And the best replacement option for Maric, more durable than Kruezer and better player than leunberger , who has too much Trent knobel about him
A Hartley black book special? :shh
Oppo recruiters are falling over themselves to get that book and are left scratching their heads every time wondering how we did it again :shh
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Pick up Lycett for free when he gets delisted. Just a player IMO and certainly wouldn't give conca up for him.
No way on earth would he be delisted , good player . And the best replacement option for Maric, more durable than Kruezer and better player than leunberger , who has too much Trent knobel about him
A Hartley black book special? :shh
Oppo recruiters are falling over themselves to get that book and are left scratching their heads every time wondering how we did it again :shh
:lol :rollin
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When fj s crew shuffles into the room on draft day the oppo scouts just sit their shaking their heads with a goofy look , muttering HTF do you guys keep acing it , it's called respect :shh
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When fj s crew shuffles into the room on draft day the oppo scouts just sit their shaking their heads with a goofy look , muttering HTF do you guys keep acing it , it's called respect :shh
I'm imagining you have posters of FJ's head stuck on Samatha Fox's body plastered all over your bedroom wall........Literally :P
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When fj s crew shuffles into the room on draft day the oppo scouts just sit their shaking their heads with a goofy look , muttering HTF do you guys keep acing it , it's called respect :shh
You're back Bojo :cheers
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When fj s crew shuffles into the room on draft day the oppo scouts just sit their shaking their heads with a goofy look , muttering HTF do you guys keep acing it , it's called respect :shh
You're back Bojo :cheers
Back to delusion, top gear and flying
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HAHA Samantha Fox!!!
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HAHA Samantha Fox!!!
The owl and the fox, that would make a fair set of Hooters ;)
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I would be in control of mine though, Poor ol Sam could barely control hers. I always admired her great singing and her intelligence though.
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Richmond offered the Giants both their first-round draft picks from 2015 and 2016 for Treloar with Tigers boss Brendon Gale calling Matthews last week to question whether the Collingwood deal had already been achieved. Matthews is understood to have then questioned his recruiting staff and football boss Graeme Allan. Richmond has said they had not given up on securing Treloar.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/greater-western-sydney-giants-play-down-talk-of-divisions-20150914-gjmhj7.html#ixzz3liZphQyy
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Treloar might have given up on us though.
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Yep, he has gone. Move on and get Aish, Kreuzer and Bennell.
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The deal has nothing to do with Treloar its which club can appease GWS more and we're still up to our eyeballs in the talks.
Worst case scenario we force Collingwood to give up way more than they ever intended.
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bennell for a tall im thinking do we throw the dice with mcbean or griffo????
aish would have to be a first rounder and ashbury for a late pick ...
yarran can be for a late pick as well.
aish,bennell yarran would all be massive ins for our club pace pace pace....
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Talls as a rule take 3, 4 or even 5 years to develop. I wouldnt be trading away any of ours as we really only have 2 backup forwards and 2 backup backs. You need cover for injury and anyone we might draft now will need those years to develop.
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The deal has nothing to do with Treloar its which club can appease GWS more and we're still up to our eyeballs in the talks.
Worst case scenario we force Collingwood to give up way more than they ever intended.
Couldn't agree more. We are (possibly) at a stage where we can afford to trade out our first round picks, Collingwood arn't. So they're forced to match our trade or lose out. Good stuff Tiges.
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The deal has nothing to do with Treloar its which club can appease GWS more and we're still up to our eyeballs in the talks.
Worst case scenario we force Collingwood to give up way more than they ever intended.
Couldn't agree more. We are (possibly) at a stage where we can afford to trade out our first round picks, Collingwood arn't. So they're forced to match our trade or lose out. Good stuff Tiges.
Yep, word is we've offered our first round draft picks for this year and next. Throw in one of our fringe players as well and it would likely get it done :snidegrin
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Treloar & Bennell - still hearing we are in it up to our eyeballs.
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Hope so, really do
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
Any source on this or just word around the traps?
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
Any source on this or just word around the traps?
Caroline Wilson on Footy Classified last night and also her article today.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/greater-western-sydney-giants-play-down-talk-of-divisions-20150914-gjmhj7.html
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
Witts has reportedly refused to be traded there & is contracted at Collingwood & has the right to stay.
surely GWS need to look at the best offer for them & B.Gale will be mentioning this to them no doubt.
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
One would hope Treloar hasn't signed a thing because he isn't allowed too. Not even a MOU.
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I was wondering why this stank so bad, truth will always come out eventually. Collingwood were just bagging too many decent fish for sweet FA the last few years. This one was one too many.
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Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him
Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.
One would hope Treloar hasn't signed a thing because he isn't allowed too. Not even a MOU.
Great work from Gale here to call them out. GWS clearly want to trade with us. Time for our off field department to show the boys how to win a big crunch conflict and get this done. Hopefully Treloar was on a bender when we played on Sunday...
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There's hope.
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wonder if there will be an AFL look into this, seems a bit corrupt, oh wait...the AFL...stock in trade lol
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wonder if there will be an AFL look into this, seems a bit corrupt, oh wait...the AFL...stock in trade lol
how are the afl integrity department tossers going
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From Caro's article tonight:
The massive six-year offer put forward to Treloar has been placed at about $750,000 a season. Although both clubs refused to reveal the potential details of the agreement between Collingwood and GWS, the AFL has maintained a close watch on the forthcoming trade, which raised the ire of Richmond.
The AFL has denied its enhanced investigation capacities achieved in-house were put to clubs following reports of the Treloar deal with Collingwood.
"It's pretty simple," club president Eddie McGuire told Fairfax Media. "The kid wants to come to Collingwood."
McGuire scoffed at industry scuttlebutt, which reached the highest levels of AFL headquarters, that he had offered Treloar's partner, Kelsey, a position with McGuire Media.
"If that was what she wanted and we had arranged it, it would have gone to Ken Wood and been ticked off under the TPP," said McGuire. "But it's categorically wrong. It's not happening, never was. I can't even get Dane Swan to do a spot on my radio show for $150 without it being queried."
The Tigers offered the Giants two first-round draft picks for Treloar and believed that Richmond was his club of preference. List manager Blair Hartley has remained in contact with the talented young midfielder while the issue was taken to the chief executive level when Brendon Gale contacted Dave Matthews to query the GWS rebuff.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-out-of-race-for-matthew-kreuzer-20150915-gjngh7.html
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scum
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Didn't gale play with Leon Cameron
I find it hard that Cameron has no input into any of this. He should be filthy if this is true.
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there is definitely something going on here.....
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AFL warns clubs on shady deals
Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall
The Age
September 16, 2015 - 7:48PM
The AFL has written to all clubs warning them about salary cap rorts and under-the-table deals on the eve of the trading season.
The league has put all clubs on notice that they will be scrutinised over a range of issues that could be an abuse of the player trading system or the salary cap.
Ken Wood, the AFL official responsible for policing player payments, wrote to all clubs and player agents this week about side deals for players and their families.
The warning comes while several high-profile players, including free agents Patrick Dangerfield, Matthew Leuenberger and departing Bomber Jake Carlisle, are being pursued by a range of clubs in what is expected to be an extremely busy post-season.
The warning about possible breaches if a club or an affiliate of the club employed a player or his family member came as Eddie McGuire was moved to deny rumours that he had agreed to hire the girlfriend of departing Greater Western Sydney player Adam Treloar, who wants a trade to Collingwood.
In a memo marked "urgent", Wood said clubs or club affiliates could hire players or their family members or associates but the AFL had to be informed.
He said if any payment was considered to in any way relate to a player joining a club or refusing to join another club then it would be deemed a football payment to the player and included under the salary cap.
The warnings came from the man policing the salary cap. The AFL's integrity department can also investigate matters that aren't related to player payments.
Wood warned that all agreements with players or their associates needed to be declared.
"Put simply, this means that all agreements with a player must be "on the table" and disclosed in full to the AFL. This includes all details of payments and all contractual terms whether informal or formal," Wood wrote.
He gave an example of a player made a two-year contract offer with the promise of a further two years after that. He said the promised extra two years also needed to be declared.
Wood also wrote that free agency exchanges needed to be in isolation and could not be tied to any other trade between clubs.
Clubs were reminded they could enter agreements with players from other clubs only after that player's club had played their last game for the season or final or in the case of free agents only in the free agency period.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-warns-clubs-on-shady-deals-20150916-gjoao5.html
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Impossible to police post career deals. In other words, Eddie (or rich sponsor) could offer employment post football career verbally with the players manager/solicitor present which then becomes a binding verbal contract. There is no record for the AFL to see. Nothing for them to investigate. Deal done. The only clue is that the player went for the seemingly worse deal because the "really want to play for Collingwood"......... :whistle
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Impossible to police post career deals. In other words, Eddie (or rich sponsor) could offer employment post football career verbally with the players manager/solicitor present which then becomes a binding verbal contract. There is no record for the AFL to see. Nothing for them to investigate. Deal done. The only clue is that the player went for the seemingly worse deal because the "really want to play for Collingwood"......... :whistle
If a lawyer was present then you have a witness.
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Impossible to police post career deals. In other words, Eddie (or rich sponsor) could offer employment post football career verbally with the players manager/solicitor present which then becomes a binding verbal contract. There is no record for the AFL to see. Nothing for them to investigate. Deal done. The only clue is that the player went for the seemingly worse deal because the "really want to play for Collingwood"......... :whistle
Milne only got done, after the saints window was over
Funny that
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I seriously doubt Treloar is thinking about work after football. He's what, 22? And looking at making $4million over the next 6 years, with probably another 3-5 years of football after that.
The job offer to his girlfriend sounds shady and true, but I doubt that would sway him either. She wouldn't even need to work ffs.
I spoke to Miles' uncle (close family). Apparently he's still in touch with Adam and the bloke is just more of a Collingwood fan than Richmond.
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I pretty much have moved on from Treloar Gale even mentioned on SEN that he is staggered that he wants to go to Collingwood at the end of the day if doesn't want to come then bring someone in that wants to come. I think we will get yarran as there were a few times we needed some one with a bit of c!!! specially even if someone went over and tried to break cotchins tag a bit to get him free I think yarran is the man to get our physical tioughness back in the right way thu.
Beneell I am leaning more and more to and hope we can get him I just hope his mind is on the job and in the right place if it works it would be a HUGE recruit for the tigers and if it doesn't well lets just say he can join the likes of fiora,JON,tambling, meyer well the list would just go on and on...
yarran,bennell and one more smokey would hold us in great stead for the season to come allows dids to stay up forward and even martin we could get 30 out of both of them looks damaging and with lennon on the up when he signs our forwards look dangers
HF:
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
So the only genuine distinction between complete fail and success is the recruitment of Yarran? Will you eat your hat if he stars for us next year?
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yarran and bennell would be great pick ups for the tigers.. wishful thinking that we would get aish,redden smith.
yarran & HB would walk into our side yarran of the hbf which will allow nick to play in guts or on the wing to add some run and bennell in spin allows dids martin to stay at home more often. I think it would be great for the club to get them come on we have fringe players such as Gordon, llyold,morris getting games if those 2 arnt better then them well blow me down :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
So the only genuine distinction between complete fail and success is the recruitment of Yarran? Will you eat your hat if he stars for us next year?
Do you see Yarran as a "war chest" "big fish"???? do you see him as an x factor player that is the difference between winning that final or loosing??? I don't, with the players I have mentioned I believe that they are the differance. But watch the good old club just take Yarran and say how well they have done. Just like every year!!!
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
So the only genuine distinction between complete fail and success is the recruitment of Yarran? Will you eat your hat if he stars for us next year?
Do you see Yarran as a "war chest" "big fish"???? do you see him as an x factor player that is the difference between winning that final or loosing??? I don't, with the players I have mentioned I believe that they are the differance. But watch the good old club just take Yarran and say how well they have done. Just like every year!!!
Honestly I tend to agree with some of what your saying. Yarran wouldn't be sufficient if he was our only recruit during the trade F/A period BUT he's still potentially an absolute jet. If we snagged Yarran and Bennell I'd be pretty happy. :thumbsup
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
So the only genuine distinction between complete fail and success is the recruitment of Yarran? Will you eat your hat if he stars for us next year?
Do you see Yarran as a "war chest" "big fish"???? do you see him as an x factor player that is the difference between winning that final or loosing??? I don't, with the players I have mentioned I believe that they are the differance. But watch the good old club just take Yarran and say how well they have done. Just like every year!!!
Honestly I tend to agree with some of what your saying. Yarran wouldn't be sufficient if he was our only recruit during the trade F/A period BUT he's still potentially an absolute jet. If we snagged Yarran and Bennell I'd be pretty happy. :thumbsup
Agree. Provides us with much needed run. I know we lost the contested ball against Norf, but time and time again players were looking up and had no one running to space meaning we had to kick to a contest and thus a contested situation.
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Eddie, Waite and Jeff have taken their games to new levels since leaving the blues so why cant Yaz???????????
not many at our club have his skils and pace
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Yaran and Bennel would be a complete fail.
Bennell, Aish and/or Redden and Zac Smith/ruckman and a backman would be successful.
So the only genuine distinction between complete fail and success is the recruitment of Yarran? Will you eat your hat if he stars for us next year?
Do you see Yarran as a "war chest" "big fish"???? do you see him as an x factor player that is the difference between winning that final or loosing??? I don't, with the players I have mentioned I believe that they are the differance. But watch the good old club just take Yarran and say how well they have done. Just like every year!!!
who gives a rats clacker if he is the messiah or not? He has class and if we can get the best out him he would be a good pick up. If not another whipping boy wouldnt go astray - it would break the monotony of the same olds for a while
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yarren isnt enough to more ahead
more so when others are getting trelors and dangerfeilds
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English please?
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I'm hoping we can still get Treloar but if not...
Club needs to be bold and not only bolster our short term future but bring in high quality players that we be here for years to come.
Why not target Yager O'Meara and Dion Prestia, that's right both of them.
offer both first round picks 15,16 and a player that would help satisfy the deal.
Wasn't keen on Yarran before but I've come around, bring him in for 2nd rounder and we still need to find a ruckman.
I know it won't happen, but if we sacrificed quality to get quality in could end up long term success.
Imagine just those three players added to our best 22? :shh
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just throwing this out there..WE appear to be making even small steps forward each and every year,If we continue on this path wouldn't logic say that in the not too distant future we will reach the pinnacle.
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Each year the players get older to. We need better cattle, its simple. Its not just about getting there, its about maintaining it.
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I don't disagree with you WAT,i just think a more measured approach is required taking stock of the advances we have made as club,rather than taking a shot at almost every player that seems available.
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I don't disagree with you WAT,i just think a more measured approach is required taking stock of the advances we have made as club,rather than taking a shot at almost every player that seems available.
Good post :clapping
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I would take a punt on Bennell (sp) and Yarran. At their best they would definitely improve our side.
How many strikes does HB have.
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Apparently, Greg Denham said today we're interested in Redden.
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Richardson also suggested two other players the Tigers should target during the upcoming trade period, throwing up Carlton’s Chris Yarran and Brisbane’s Jack Redden.
“I’d be looking at (Chris) Yarran. You need guys who can come off half-back and be game-breakers. Alex Rance was the only defender that took the game on (against North Melbourne in the elimination final) and when he did play on, they got through. If they get him playing off half-back, he’d be that game breaker,” Richardson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/harley-bennell-mark-williams-would-be-a-match-made-in-heaven-at-richmond-says-gerard-healy/story-e6frf3e3-1227531464871
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I would take a punt on Bennell (sp) and Yarran. At their best they would definitely improve our side.
How many strikes does HB have.
Exactly, if we can get Bennell, especially, for unders why wouldn't we? We can afford to go bust on it. He's as good if not better than Treloar if up and running. #Xfactor
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Redden now hey? :laugh:
What next? Bruce Gibbs?
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Redden was talked about the days ago.
Get Redden, Smith, Bennell and Hampton.
Trade: Conca, Ellis, Batchelor, first round pick and second round pick.
See Langford from the Hwks has been delisted!!! :snidegrin
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Yarran not attending Blues B&F apparently
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English please?
everyone else will get a yarren type too
and draft picks
etc.
hence yarren will only keep us a middling list
we require yarren and a bennell/trelor to actully make upwards moment
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Miles is on an aboriginal footy show called Marngrook and gee they are talking up Bennell going to the Tiges, KB is in there still trying to plug us getting Treloar :lol
It's on NITV.
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Miles is on an aboriginal footy show called Marngrook and gee they are talking up Bennell going to the Tiges, KB I'd in there still trying to plug us getting Treloar :lol
It's on NITV.
best footy show by miles IMHO
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Miles is on an aboriginal footy show called Marngrook and gee they are talking up Bennell going to the Tiges, KB I'd in there still trying to plug us getting Treloar :lol
It's on NITV.
best footy show by miles IMHO
Agreed, so good! Love how everyone's getting around the idea of Bennell coming to us. Should give him the extra push he might need!
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Now the more I think about it the more I am warming to a side with Bennel, Redden and dare I say it ...........Yarran..... :lol. Imagine round one with Yarran... :thumbsup
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Chris Yarran a no-show at Carlton best-and-fairest count
Jake Niall and Jon Pierik
The Age
September 17, 2015 - 7:16PM
Carlton star Chris Yarran is not attending the Blues' best-and-fairest count on Thursday night.
The Blues confirmed on Thursday Yarran was at home in Perth with family and had informed the club that he would not be attending the John Nicholls Medal at Crown Palladium.
A Blues spokesman said: "Players went on leave last Wednesday and informed the club of his wish to be in Perth with his family."
Yarran is contracted for next season but is expected to be traded in the upcoming exchange period with Richmond favoured to win his services.
Yarran, 24, has met with the Tigers, who would have to satisfy the Blues in a trade.
In the unlikely event Yarran is not traded, he will be a free agent after the 2016 season.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-a-noshow-at-carlton-bestandfairest-count-20150917-gjpa5p.html#ixzz3lzdCTBdd
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Big Footy rumour.
Griffiths or Astbury will go to Carlton for Yarran, from what I've heard, Carlton are keen. I just heard it's a KPP from us, I'm hoping it's not McBean, Vickery. Straight swap.
There you go. It's about 90% done, but Carlton have proven in the past to always want more.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iv-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1110694/page-173#post-40954558
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Big Footy rumour.
Griffiths or Astbury will go to Carlton for Yarran, from what I've heard, Carlton are keen. I just heard it's a KPP from us, I'm hoping it's not McBean, Vickery. Straight swap.
There you go. It's about 90% done, but Carlton have proven in the past to always want more.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iv-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1110694/page-173#post-40954558
Doubt it would be Griffiths. But would Astbury do the trick?
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just throwing this out there..WE appear to be making even small steps forward each and every year,If we continue on this path wouldn't logic say that in the not too distant future we will reach the pinnacle.
that's what carlton thought under ratten then it went to the crapper for them. we need to strike whilst the likes of deledio and riewoldt and cotchin and rance are around.
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better not be McKenzie, isn't he another one of our big stars in the making ? lol
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I have seen McKenie, i thought he was ok and will get better
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English please?
everyone else will get a yarren type too
and draft picks
etc.
hence yarren will only keep us a middling list
we require yarren and a bennell/trelor to actully make upwards moment
thanks.
but nowhere did i say only get yarran
nor do i belive that every club will get a yarran type. we havnt had one for years.
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if its yarran for astbury then I am all for it take astbury must be down the packing list specially knowing we signed Elton to a 2 year deal and didn't play a game must tell yah something...
for people to come on here and say tarde ellis is just a joke clearly u don't watch the game much and understand it to well his been in our system for what 3 years but ur happy to keep the likes of Gordon,llyold,morris,astbury,elton,hampson running around please
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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if we lose lennon someone needs to go swimming with cement shoes
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if its yarran for astbury then I am all for it take astbury must be down the packing list specially knowing we signed Elton to a 2 year deal and didn't play a game must tell yah something...
for people to come on here and say tarde ellis is just a joke clearly u don't watch the game much and understand it to well his been in our system for what 3 years but ur happy to keep the likes of Gordon,llyold,morris,astbury,elton,hampson running around please
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
You are clearly all over our game and the players we have. Elton must be extremely quick out on the ground because I keep missing him.
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if we lose lennon someone needs to go swimming with cement shoes
He's pretty much gone. Hardwick's selections have cost us a final and a future gun. Not even Frawley managed that level of incompetence. Well done Dimma. :clapping
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if we lose lennon someone needs to go swimming with cement shoes
He's pretty much gone. Hardwick's selections have cost us a final and a future gun. Not even Frawley managed that level of incompetence. Well done Dimma. :clapping
Absolute rubbish. Unless you have an ironclad source you can link us to Im calling massive bs on that. Everything Ive read/heard suggested its purely over a pay dispute. He wants to stay, so he probably will.
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Face the facts matey - Lennon is gone, Harwick is responsible.
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Face the facts matey - Lennon is gone, Harwick is responsible.
A 19 year old sooks it up after being dropped and wants out of the club as a result. If he is that soft then he can go and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Face the facts matey - Lennon is gone, Harwick is responsible.
A 19 year old sooks it up after being dropped and wants out of the club as a result. If he is that soft then he can go and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Where the bloody hell have you been???
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Face the facts matey - Lennon is gone, Harwick is responsible.
A 19 year old sooks it up after being dropped and wants out of the club as a result. If he is that soft then he can go and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
More like a player does everything asked of him for 8 weeks and suddenly gets dropped from a final for an underdone player by the idiot coach, which leads said player to believe that certain rules & standards are not evenly applied and he's always going to be up against it at the club while ever said idiot coach remains in charge.
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Face the facts matey - Lennon is gone, Harwick is responsible.
A 19 year old sooks it up after being dropped and wants out of the club as a result. If he is that soft then he can go and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
More like a player does everything asked of him for 8 weeks and suddenly gets dropped from a final for an underdone player by the idiot coach, which leads said player to believe that certain rules & standards are not evenly applied and he's always going to be up against it at the club while ever said idiot coach remains in charge.
The fact is that against an undermanned North side the week before he did SFA to justify leaving him in the team. Just saying there are many ways you can argue this.....
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
Look there is no doubt that Hardwick, like many of his fellow coaches has his favourites. No argument from me on this fact. However, a second year player who showed very little defensive pressure the previous week should start looking at his own performance before looking at others. It happens in all fields of employment too. A newby has to earn their stripes in the workforce before they can be treated as equal. Same on the footy field. I'm not saying it is right, it is just the way it is. I for one have argued that Newman has not been deserving of games in the last two years, but to his credit, he was one of our better players last Sunday.
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
He wasn't solid, far from it.
The kid is to fat with no tank, good luck to him wherever he end up.
Just face the facts that the RFC has stuffed another first round draft pick, while pick 12 Lennon is dudding it up walking out of the club, pick 13 Patric Cripps is coming runner up in the rising star and winning B&F's :(
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Well you clearly don't watch football......
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
He wasn't solid, far from it.
The kid is to fat with no tank, good luck to him wherever he end up.
Just face the facts that the RFC has stuffed another first round draft pick, while pick 12 Lennon is dudding it up walking out of the club, pick 13 Patric Cripps is coming runner up in the rising star and winning B&F's :(
I think Stewie Dew could come out of retirement and win the Blues B&F
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
Look there is no doubt that Hardwick, like many of his fellow coaches has his favourites. No argument from me on this fact. However, a second year player who showed very little defensive pressure the previous week should start looking at his own performance before looking at others. It happens in all fields of employment too. A newby has to earn their stripes in the workforce before they can be treated as equal. Same on the footy field. I'm not saying it is right, it is just the way it is. I for one have argued that Newman has not been deserving of games in the last two years, but to his credit, he was one of our better players last Sunday.
you could put up a fair argument for dropping ellis, but you would hard stretched to justify the two terribly underdone young players that were bought in.
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Well you clearly don't watch football......
Clearly? You should try watching it without the rose colored glasses, maybey things will become more clearer for yourself!
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Well you clearly don't watch football......
Clearly? You should try watching it without the rose colored glasses, maybey things will become more clearer for yourself!
Or better still watch it after a bottle of red and then you dont really give a poo about the result
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Rumor is we are chasing Yarran.. :snidegrin
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
Look there is no doubt that Hardwick, like many of his fellow coaches has his favourites. No argument from me on this fact. However, a second year player who showed very little defensive pressure the previous week should start looking at his own performance before looking at others. It happens in all fields of employment too. A newby has to earn their stripes in the workforce before they can be treated as equal. Same on the footy field. I'm not saying it is right, it is just the way it is. I for one have argued that Newman has not been deserving of games in the last two years, but to his credit, he was one of our better players last Sunday.
Whats age got to do with it....how about the fact Lennon's clearly a better footballer who was playing better football than Newman? The only thing Newman has "earnt his stripes" at is being a proven failure past his prime. Not to mention Conca & Griffiths who weren't even playing any football at all.....it's not as if they brought in McDonough & McBean who'd been playing good footy in the twos. Even Thomarse would've been more a logical inclusion than Conca.
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Well you clearly don't watch football......
Clearly? You should try watching it without the rose colored glasses, maybey things will become more clearer for yourself!
Yeah whatever you say El Loui from Tas....not anywhere near as worried that a nobody like you can't see the obvious as I am worried that the halfwits currently running the side can't...
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Nice backflip by the way, El Loui....
Thank god!!
Missed Lennon today because of this has been!
May even lose him for good because of it.
RFC need to start showing some balls and call the shots them selves instead of letting the players do it....
....troll much?
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
A second year player should be getting preferential treatment if they are on par with an old dude who's past it.
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Well you clearly don't watch football......
Clearly? You should try watching it without the rose colored glasses, maybey things will become more clearer for yourself!
Yeah whatever you say El Loui from Tas....not anywhere near as worried that a nobody like you can't see the obvious as I am worried that the halfwits currently running the side can't...
I'm not sure if I should be flattered or offended :huh :huh
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
A second year player should be getting preferential treatment if they are on par with an old dude who's past it.
The quote you have put up has nothing to do with what "we" think or even what the majority think of what should be practised. It is about the expectation from the player. If Lennon makes it to Newman's number of games I seriously doubt that he would think that a second year player should be treated the same way as him.
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CHRIS Yarran is officially out of Carlton and headed for Richmond.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-yarran-quits-carlton-richmond-best-placed-to-secure-speedster-in-afl-trades-period/story-fnp04d70-1227533646467
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It worked fine if you subscribe to the HUN website :huh :huh
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Full transcript please Bo :shh
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X 2 for the big Dookster :clapping
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limp have locked their backdoor too
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limps have locked their backdoor too
I've seen a few videos which suggest similar
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wouldnt be much action then
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He's just quit, not a done deal yet. Will a second rounder do it/ be worth it? Shaun Hampson must be rolling in his grave.....
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wouldnt be much action then
Spoiler alert. The limps become limpless
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Yessssss the big Dooks terms :clapping
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X 2 for the big Dookster :clapping
Yessssss the big Dooks terms :clapping
Yessssssssssssssssss Big Man :clapping
Lets get this happening peoples :yep
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Cam Luke from AFL Trade Radio has suggested the Tigers package Ben Lennon and a 3rd Round Pick for Carlton's Chris Yarran.
Standard nonsense!
How bout we offer a 6-pack and a pat on the back?
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There kidding themselves lol. Lennon is a first round pick of his own accord.... SEN needs :help
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Disgraceful if this is at all true.
Club embarrassed themselves with Hampson trade deal. Can't do it again with the scum
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CHRIS Yarran is set to depart Carlton in next month's trade period after informing the club on Friday that he wants to make a fresh start at a new AFL home.
Friday's news came as no surprise as Yarran had been widely expected to depart the Blues as the club looks to rebuild its poor list, with the speedster almost certain to join Richmond.
Key defender heads Bolton's first cull at Carlton
AFL.com.au understands Yarran and the Blues have come to a mutual understanding that he will leave, but the club has yet to decide what its asking price will be at the trade table.
Yarran is contracted for 2016 but was set to become a restricted free agent at the end of next season, so Carlton is no doubt mindful it could net a better return by trading him now.
Speaking on Melbourne radio station SEN, new Blues coach Brendon Bolton said he was optimistic Yarran could return a first-round selection.
"With Chris, he is a contracted player and an A-grade player when up and about," Bolton said.
"We love the footy he plays when he's running off half-back, but if he doesn't want to play, we will have to have a discussion about what the return is.
“You'd hope so (he’d warrant a first-round pick)."
It is believed Richmond is not prepared to trade its first-round draft pick, currently No.12, for Yarran, so its negotiations with Carlton could drag on.
The West Australian re-signed with the Blues for two seasons in 2014, when he enjoyed a career-best season, finishing fourth in the club best and fairest award.
However, Yarran played just 14 largely indifferent games this year and was suspended for an ill-disciplined strike on Essendon's Paul Chapman in round three.
But, at 24, Yarran is understandably an enticing prospect for Richmond. At his best, the No.6 pick in the 2008 national draft is a line-breaking runner who can play across half-back or as a dangerous small forward.
Yarran played 119 games for Carlton and kicked 90 goals.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-18/yarran-out-at-blues-set-for-tigers
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Astbury -> Brisbane
:facepalm
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Astbury needs to stay.
pee chaplin off and let astbury take his spot...
Surely if we can see things, other people up above can too.
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Astbury -> Brisbane
:facepalm
Not a big deal I wouldn't have thought
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Astbury -> Brisbane
:facepalm
Not a big deal I wouldn't have thought
yep we can just keep trotting out Chaplin and his wheelchair till they are comatose
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Astbury needs to stay.
pee chaplin off and let astbury take his spot...
Surely if we can see things, other people up above can too.
its like a giant urine extraction
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I am behind getting Yarran now as I said last night but NOT at the cost of Lennon. The up side to Lennon has been demonstrated this year and the future holds big things for him at our club. To trade Lennon would reek of desperation by the RFC and the notion that we are on the brink of winning a GF. Which I don't believe we are at the moment.
I would accept trading a second round pick, with Batchelor, who by the way Yarran could replace immediately and he plays a lot taller... :snidegrin :snidegrin
Or trade a second rounder with Griff, Conca or as a very last resort Astbury, although I also think there is a very big upside to Astbury.
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To trade Lennon would reek of desperation by the RFC
to lose a 2nd year, 1st rounder
would reek of a lot more than that
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Astbury -> Brisbane
:facepalm
Not a big deal I wouldn't have thought
yep we can just keep trotting out Chaplin and his wheelchair till they are comatose
personally if it was up to me ... Id pay Chaplin out and send him on his way as well.
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of course carlton is going to come out and say that yarran is a A-grade player and would like a 1st round pick in return....to pump up his value
they are hardly going to say he is a fringe player that is worthy of only a 3rd round pick.....
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If our club coughs up anything more than a 2nd rounder for Yarran then our club is run by a group of delinquent knobs.
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If our club coughs up anything more than a 2nd rounder for Yarran then our club is run by a group of delinquent knobs.
So far we've said we won't be giving up a first rounder for him.
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IF, and i reiterate IF lennon wants to be traded, and IF he decides he wants to go to carlton, then he will be part of any deal involving yarran, our hand will be tied
Otherwise he could possibly just walk to them in PSD
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I am behind getting Yarran now as I said last night but NOT at the cost of Lennon. The up side to Lennon has been demonstrated this year and the future holds big things for him at our club. To trade Lennon would reek of desperation by the RFC and the notion that we are on the brink of winning a GF. Which I don't believe we are at the moment.
I would accept trading a second round pick, with Batchelor, who by the way Yarran could replace immediately and he plays a lot taller... :snidegrin :snidegrin
Or trade a second rounder with Griff, Conca or as a very last resort Astbury, although I also think there is a very big upside to Astbury.
Brendan Bolton has said tonight on SEN radio that he would expect a 1st rounder as trade for Yarran
Personally I say they can go stuff themselves, you got the goods in the Hampson deal.
Lightning no strike twice moose :shh
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I am behind getting Yarran now as I said last night but NOT at the cost of Lennon. The up side to Lennon has been demonstrated this year and the future holds big things for him at our club. To trade Lennon would reek of desperation by the RFC and the notion that we are on the brink of winning a GF. Which I don't believe we are at the moment.
I would accept trading a second round pick, with Batchelor, who by the way Yarran could replace immediately and he plays a lot taller... :snidegrin :snidegrin
Or trade a second rounder with Griff, Conca or as a very last resort Astbury, although I also think there is a very big upside to Astbury.
Brendan Bolton has said tonight on SEN radio that he would expect a 1st rounder as trade for Yarran
Personally I say they can go stuff themselves, you got the goods in the Hampson deal.
Lightning no strike twice moose :shh
Agree.
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:lol
cheek pricks
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Won't be pick for Yarran, that's for AT :thumbsup
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Well it better not be Lennon, I'm thinking Griff to replace Kreuzer when he breaks down.
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:lol
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Nick Clark
Herald-Sun
September 19, 2015
RICHMOND
Is Harley Bennell the missing piece in the Tigers’ premiership puzzle? At least one AFL champ says yes. He would certainly add class and X-factor to a midfield that didn’t perform on the September stage, but is he worth the risk? After 35 years without a flag, the answer might be yes. Are also interested in Chris Yarran and possibly Matthew Kreuzer, and don’t count them totally out of the race for Adam Treloar.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756
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I mentioned Yarran and the deal being done before the media picked it up. Well here's more, four year contract is on the table, Yarran has accepted it verbally. We got him. Buttttt, Carlton want Lennon and McBean. And no, not kidding. I wish I was. They want to **** us. Yarran is dead set on coming, he wants nothing to do with those bastards anymore. Trade week will be hard, we will lose something that we don't want to. I'm predicting Griffiths and second rounder, but that's a guess, it will be something. They want Lennon and McBean though.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-iv-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1110694/page-193#post-40978282
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Oh boy
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This is going to be another Blair Hardwick stuff up
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As Kenny Rogers used to say or sing ... You gotta know when to hold em and when to fold em - know when to walk away and know when to run ... and unfortunately we don't know if we fall for this rubbish.
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2nd rnd pick only nothing thrown in for Yarran. We have the whip hand if they are sick of each other and Yarran wants to come to tigerland, Carlton need this deal more than we do.
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So one supposedly average game after 7 solid/good weeks of consistent improvement suddenly deserves instant omission from a final in favour of blokes who even haven't played a match at any level for over a month? How was someone like Newman travelling in those 8 weeks? Were the same standards applied to him and a few others? Bollocks.
So when Lennon is Newman's age, will he expect to be treated the same as a second year player? Doubt it.
A second year player should be getting preferential treatment if they are on par with an old dude who's past it.
The quote you have put up has nothing to do with what "we" think or even what the majority think of what should be practised. It is about the expectation from the player. If Lennon makes it to Newman's number of games I seriously doubt that he would think that a second year player should be treated the same way as him.
The quote you have put up has nothing to do with what Lennon thinks. It is about the way it should be
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AFL trades: Chris Yarran set to leave Blues
Jake Niall
The Age
September 19. 2015
Chris Yarran and Carlton have an understanding that he will seek a trade to another club at the upcoming exchange period.
Yarran, who signalled his exit from Carlton by not attending the club best and fairest on Thursday, wants to be traded to Richmond, as has been reported for some time.
The sticking point in discussions between the Tigers and the Blues is likely to be the draft pick on offer for Yarran, who is contracted for 2016.
The Tigers are understood to be willing only to part with their second-round pick, while the Blues will want a first-round selection for Yarran, who is due to be paid around $450,000 next season.
Yarran met the Tigers during the season and there does not appear to be another serious suitor at this stage. If Carlton held on to Yarran he would be a restricted free agent at the end of next year and could walk, but the Blues would gain a compensation pick which may or may not exceed what the Tigers are willing to offer this year.
Yarran's management has been in regular communications with Carlton and the parties were well aware throughout the latter stages of the season that he would be seeking a trade.
Yarran is back in Perth with his family, having informed the club that he would not attend the best and fairest.
A highly promising youngster when selected, Yarran appeals to Richmond as a small forward but can also play as a rebounding defender with his pace and disposal skills.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/carlton-blues/afl-trades-chris-yarran-set-to-leave-blues-20150918-gjq7i5.html
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Good one Jake it's a 2nd rounder or SOS and his brainless knob mates can GAGF.
We still owe those pricks for stealing the Royal Oak
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2nd rounder and Griff or move on Tigers.
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2nd rounder and griff or in 12 mths we get him for free
No WAT that's crazy talk. Not that I rate Griffiths but why offer anything other than a second. There are no other suitors so supply and demand isn't an issue. Force their hand to trade now or see you in a year.
This stupid club of ours owe us after coughing up a second for the last trade we did with them when any blind man could see it was a shocking decision.
stuff them
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2nd rounder and griff or in 12 mths we get him for free
No WAT that's crazy talk. Not that I rate Griffiths but why offer anything other than a second. There are no other suitors so supply and demand isn't an issue. Force their hand to trade now or see you in a year.
This stupid club of ours owe us after coughing up a second for the last trade we did with them when any blind man could see it was a shocking decision.
stuff them
Perfectly said :clapping
We hold all the cards, though I won't be suprised if we stuff it up
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2nd rounder and griff or in 12 mths we get him for free
No WAT that's crazy talk. Not that I rate Griffiths but why offer anything other than a second. There are no other suitors so supply and demand isn't an issue. Force their hand to trade now or see you in a year.
This stupid club of ours owe us after coughing up a second for the last trade we did with them when any blind man could see it was a shocking decision.
stuff them
So what deal do you recommend then?
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I have just said it. 2nd or tell them to FO.
In 12 mths we get him for free so anything more than that is an an absolute bust for us IMO.
This bloke was playing VFL and like Tambling was a high pick but deserves no where near what they were drafted as.
I hope the Hampson trade is burning in blairs memory bank when we sit down with these flogs
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2nd round pick only or walk away. Yarran isn't that important to us.
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I look at Yarran as a Houli upgrade...Do we need to upgrade on Bacha?...I think we do
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Caro saying Jack Watts to Tigers. Personally like to see him replace Batchelor as a tall defender. Would be a great upgrade.
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Caro saying Jack Watts to Tigers. Personally like to see him replace Batchelor as a tall defender. Would be a great upgrade.
A cigarette butt would be a great upgrade for Batch. I thought Roos had spoken to Watts and he was very happy with the discussion, realised what he had to do to improve and he would be staying. Caro is fishing.
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Caro saying Jack Watts to Tigers. Personally like to see him replace Batchelor as a tall defender. Would be a great upgrade.
Maybe on skill but not in effort
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watts stuff me i hope that is a false rumour
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Watts' deficiencies are all in his head and have little to do with his actual ability and talent....having said that, I think he's mentally cooked to the point that he's beyond salvation...don't reckon even Hawthorn or Sydney could put him back together now, let alone us... we already have enough mentally fragile players as it is...
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Watts' deficiencies are all in his head and have little to do with his actual ability and talent....having said that, I think he's mentally cooked to the point that he's beyond salvation...don't reckon even Hawthorn or Sydney could put him back together now, let alone us... we already have enough mentally fragile players as it is...
Agree, its another classic case of the Tambling Syndrome..
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
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No bloody way. Must play hardball!!!
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Lennon for Yarran would end up living in infamy alongside the Pitura trade....another reason why we needed to sack Hartley & Richardson a year ago...the longer they stay, the more damage they're going to do...
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
Don't be surprised if Lennon is part of the trade as McClure says. Lennon has been offered a relatively substantial extra amount of money from Carlton and Essendon than what we have offered
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
Sam is sniffing something really powerful........
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WP still safe in your eyes?
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
Don't be surprised if Lennon is part of the trade as McClure says. Lennon has been offered a relatively substantial extra amount of money from Carlton and Essendon than what we have offered
If this is true it would be so dissapointing. In fact enough for me to cancel all our memberships and not gaf as clearly we would never be on the right track for anything.
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It's happening again....
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/swapcards/bulluss/john_pitura_1978.jpg)
:help :help :help
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WP still safe in your eyes?
Believe he wants to stay? Yes - Absolutely haven't changed my view on that
As for Sam McClure, this is the same journo (and I use this term loosely) who said during the anti doping tribunal hearing that the half of the Bombers 34 had agreed to take deals .... And we all know how accurate that was
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Well he might want to be at tigerland, I won't be surprised if we walk away from it.
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Have moved the majority of the discussion on the swear filter to
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22915.msg516159#new
However, I have snipped some of it
Stick to debating / discussing the topic and keep the cheap shots directed at other posters out of it
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GWS coach Leon Cameron has told ABC Grandstand that Adam Treloar is no certainty to join Collingwood and the Giants will trade in best interest of the club not the player.
The Giants are interested in Draft Picks not mature players.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Lennon played 9 games this year
3 he was the sub
Now wants double the money
Interesting
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GWS coach Leon Cameron has told ABC Grandstand that Adam Treloar is no certainty to join Collingwood and the Giants will trade in best interest of the club not the player.
The Giants are interested in Draft Picks not mature players.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Give em our first 2 picks and get milesy on the phone...do something tigers ffs
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Unfortunately for us players usually get their wish,and all this is by GWS is probably grandstanding
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Lennon played 9 games this year
3 he was the sub
Now wants double the money
Interesting
Carlton got to him no doubt - would rather pay him what he wants than Yarran
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Something doesn't seem proper when a teenager after only a year or two at a club wants to leave..I believe a player and I mean these young ones need to repay the club for the investment
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Lennon played 9 games this year
3 he was the sub
Now wants double the money
Interesting
Yes it's all the $$$$ apparently.
Is RC his manager also
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He has more front than Myers apparently asking for a huge pay rise after barely establishing himself in the team
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Stuffwit. Deserves to waste his career at the cheats.
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No Anthony McConville
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Something doesn't seem proper when a teenager after only a year or two at a club wants to leave..I believe a player and I mean these young ones need to repay the club for the investment
Players don't owe a club anything IMO. It's a business
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No Anthony McConville
Isn't he Yarran's manager as well?
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A reminder Sam McClure is a Blues supporter as well as a 3AW footy reporter.
Yarran for Lennon looms likely
Jourdan Canil
BoundForGloryNews.com
18 September, 2015
The deal has been in the pipelines for months, with Damian Barrett saying Yarran had met with Richmond officials close to seven weeks ago.
Emerging young gun Ben Lennon is what is being offered, according to 3AW’s Sam McClure and other sources.
The 188 centimetre Lennon was taken at pick 12 in the 2013 draft, and began to hit his straps this year.
He’s a high half forward who can play all over the ground. His overhead marking and long, penetrating kicks are his two elite assets.
Lennon kicked six goals from nine games this year. More importantly, aside from the elimination final, he played every game since round 16 for the Tigers.
Lennon’s strength in the air is perhaps his most eye-catching skill. He took multiple contested marks in the VFL in four games this year.
Yarran of course would be an upgrade over Bachar Houli, Reece Conca and Nick Vlastuin.
Their worth is at a similar level, but questions should be raised over whether the Tigers would be wiser to just part ways with their first pick instead.
It looks likely that the Tigers’ first pick will be around the 14-16 mark, and despite the evenness of the draft, it looks unlikely that the Tigers will land an out and out gun at that pick.
http://boundforglorynews.com/yarran-for-lennon-looms-likely/
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OMFG, is this a bad dream, can someone slap me so I will wake up. FFS, if this happens I tell you what we are stuffed!!!!
Surely this is the buffoon McClure ranting and trying to get the CFC to push us for this trade. There is no way in the world Lennon at pick 12 can possibly be swapped for Yarran. Yarran is a second rounder at best.
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Did anyone here watch the Sunday Footy Show?
Barrett was talking about Yarran and when Luke Ball and Nathan Brown brought up Lennon's name, Barrett said the trade's not Yarran for Lennon.
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Did anyone here watch the Sunday Footy Show?
Barrett was talking about Yarran and when Luke Ball and Nathan Brown brought up Lennon's name, Barrett said the trade's not Yarran for Lennon.
Well this had better be the truth story then.. :snidegrin
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Would pay a 2nd round pick for Yarran. That's it folks! Bloke isn't getting a game in one of the worst performing teams of the year - says a lot about Yarran's currency!
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Would pay a 2nd round pick for Yarran. That's it folks! Bloke isn't getting a game in one of the worst performing teams of the year - says a lot about Yarran's currency!
Yep. :cheers
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Prefer we got Menzel from Carlton than Yarran.....
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Would pay a 2nd round pick for Yarran. That's it folks! Bloke isn't getting a game in one of the worst performing teams of the year - says a lot about Yarran's currency!
Im with you on this, if they dont trade him they are up to 450k for nada, second round pick and that is it
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Would pay a 2nd round pick for Yarran. That's it folks! Bloke isn't getting a game in one of the worst performing teams of the year - says a lot about Yarran's currency!
Agree his value is well down at the moment but he was dropped for disciplinary reasons, not because he wasn't good enough to get a game. He came 4th in their BnF last year and averaged 16 touches a game. Was still playing decent footy this year at AFL. Guy is still potentially an absolute jet. 2nd rounder is ripping them off, I would be surprised if that ends up being the deal.
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Did anyone here watch the Sunday Footy Show?
Barrett was talking about Yarran and when Luke Ball and Nathan Brown brought up Lennon's name, Barrett said the trade's not Yarran for Lennon.
Well this had better be the truth story then.. :snidegrin
Since when had Barrett got anything right?
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Would pay a 2nd round pick for Yarran. That's it folks! Bloke isn't getting a game in one of the worst performing teams of the year - says a lot about Yarran's currency!
Agree his value is well down at the moment but he was dropped for disciplinary reasons, not because he wasn't good enough to get a game. He came 4th in their BnF last year and averaged 16 touches a game. Was still playing decent footy this year at AFL. Guy is still potentially an absolute jet. 2nd rounder is ripping them off, I would be surprised if that ends up being the deal.
And us paying pick 20 odd last year for Hampson wasnt? ?
Just remember, he could be picked up for free next year. They either take what they're offered or lose out completely
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they could do the same thing with lennon this year, IF they convince him to move there
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Did anyone here watch the Sunday Footy Show?
Barrett was talking about Yarran and when Luke Ball and Nathan Brown brought up Lennon's name, Barrett said the trade's not Yarran for Lennon.
I hope that is correct.
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
McClure tonight said "the word from Carlton" is Lennon & 3rd round pick for Yarran. Do we believe Carlton? :nope
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Caro also said Sam McClure of 3aw told her Lennon and our 3rd round pick has been put on the table for Yarran. The Blues want our first rounder.
McClure tonight said "the word from Carlton" is Lennon & 3rd round pick for Yarran. Do we believe Carlton? :nope
Not enough chicken crap in all of Victoria to fill Punt Rd if that happens
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Astbury -> Brisbane
:facepalm
Not a big deal I wouldn't have thought
yep we can just keep trotting out Chaplin and his wheelchair till they are comatose
Big Bad Benny Darrou - 3rd in South Adelaide's B&F....:shh
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Caro discussed the Treloar trade:
1) Richmond were under the impression Treloar was willing to go to Richmond.
2) Richmond thought their offer (two first round picks 2015-16) was superior to Collingwood's.
3) Benny Gale rang GWS's CEO to clarify and it's all over now.
4) Caro believes the Collingwood deal is more than has been mentioned and that Hutchy knows what it is but won't say.
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FC replayed Bolton's claim that Yarran is an A-grader and Carlton should get a first round pick. Lloyd said Yarran's ability is A-grade but his reliability and attitude is B-grade. Caro said he's not worth a first rounder. Lloyd replied, you may have to pay that but it's a big risk for a club to make. Caro added Rochmond has refused to give up their first round pick and that word on the weekend was Lennon & a 3rd round pick for Yarran (which she obviously heard from Sam McClure).
Caro then asked if Richmond getting both Yarran and Bennell was a good idea. Lloyd said no, you'd only pick one of them. Both have questionable attitudes on (Yarran) and off (Bennell) field.
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Did anyone here watch the Sunday Footy Show?
Barrett was talking about Yarran and when Luke Ball and Nathan Brown brought up Lennon's name, Barrett said the trade's not Yarran for Lennon.
Well this had better be the truth story then.. :snidegrin
Since when had Barrett got anything right?
Don the jungle drums have been beating too loud and too long over this one. We all know Yarran is coming to us. It is indeed unfortunate and shows just how inept our recruiting/list management staff are. What will be truly inept is the cost we pay for the hack. We can all see it coming from miles away, the need to snare a supposed big fish clouding their judgement more than usual and overlooking far greater list needs . Yep we all know the out come will be more than unfortunate.
What i dont get and it is a lesson that this club of all clubs should have learnt many years ago,It is you dont give up first round picks or young players taken in the first round for any thing less than a PROVEN A GRADE PLAYER. This blokes performances are anything but, over a very long period.
I can understand supporters getting sucked in by a bit of razzle dazzle but a whole footy department who should know better thats inexcusable.
We may as well go and get Lewis Jetta who has probably out performed Yarran over the journey. While we are at it give them, Sydney both our first round picks from this year and next.
What a joke this club is. It is indeed time for an overhaul of those in charge.
Hands up any one. Who would want to go into anything with a Yarran type looking after your back. FFS i can see it now B ellis on one wing pooting his pants and Yarran on the other stinking it up.
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Good post Craw although I'd say Yarren isn't a hack more so an unfulfilled talent
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Good post Craw although I'd say Yarren isn't a hack more so an unfulfilled talent
Agree with Dr Craw, who wants to win "Most Potential Award" there are kids wardrobes all over Victoria and Australia with that award collecting dust in the backs of wardrobes
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Well said claw and right on the money.
3 finals losses in a row with a bunch of timid footballers and now they want to add yarran to the list for Lennon.
Let's hope it's dimwits and blairs swansong on their way out the door.
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A little confused though, thr club has categorically stated they wont be trading their first round pick for Yarran. I agree, Yarran isnt an A grader (at the moment), but he'd be a decent pick up for a second round pick (considering the quality of the draft).
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Well said claw and right on the money.
3 finals losses in a row with a bunch of timid footballers and now they want to add yarran to the list for Lennon.
Let's hope it's dimwits and blairs swansong on their way out the door.
so it is definately confirmed. Leenon for yarran and lennon was put up for the trade by the club?
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Yarran only worth a 3rd round pick!
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Maybe we could send Setve Morris and our 2nd rd pick to Carlton for Yarran and their 2nd rd pick :snidegrin
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Well said claw and right on the money.
3 finals losses in a row with a bunch of timid footballers and now they want to add yarran to the list for Lennon.
Let's hope it's dimwits and blairs swansong on their way out the door.
so it is definately confirmed. Leenon for yarran and lennon was put up for the trade by the club?
come on albert this OER, unless you get a FACT at the end of the sentence its anything but that
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:lol
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Jack Clark from the Herald-Sun:
Nick, My gut feel is Harley Bennel would be a super pick up. Yes, serious concerns, but a club will becak themselves in. Could be a top-five player in the comp. Expect Richmond to lead the chase on this one.
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Q. Hey Jay, is Yarran to Richmond a near certainty in your opinion?
Jay Clark: Lock it in Josh
http://www.themercury.com.au/brisbane-lions-set-to-recruit-geelongs-jarrad-jansen-eye-other-trade-targets/story-fnj3twbb-1227537514814
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Imagine, Yarran, Hartlett, Bennell and a ruckman.......
That'll do donkey that'll do....🐴🐴🐴
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https://twitter.com/redhead27
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https://twitter.com/redhead27
Surely that's old news?
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https://twitter.com/redhead27
Surely that's old news?
Possibly. Just saw it posted tonight on twitter though.
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https://twitter.com/redhead27
Surely that's old news?
Possibly. Just saw it posted tonight on twitter though.
Figers crossed its new :pray
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https://twitter.com/redhead27
Surely that's old news?
It from today's HUN page 63
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Collingwood to use first and second round draft picks to secure Adam Treloar
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
September 22, 2015 8:00PM
COLLINGWOOD will use a pick from next year’s draft to seal the deal for Greater Western Sydney midfield jet Adam Treloar.
The Magpies are prepared to hand over a first-round draft pick from this year’s draft and, for the first time, part with a second-round selection from next year’s lottery to guarantee the agreement.
Treloar’s signature is a key plank in Nathan Buckley’s plans to lead the Magpies to finals next year after missing out on September action in the past two seasons.
Collingwood has already held preliminary talks with GWS about Treloar, with a deal now considered a formality, despite ongoing interest from Richmond and North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-to-use-first-and-second-round-draft-picks-to-secure-adam-treloar/story-fnj3twbb-1227539243964
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So we choke on field and off it also. Couldn't land a big fish if it jumped up and punched us in the face and now looking like losing Lennon. Stuff off Blair and Dan u are both big disappointments
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Surley we have put our first round picks this years and next on the table?
I still don't believe we're out of this race yet, there's allot more to play out here just yet.
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Collingwood to use first and second round draft picks to secure Adam Treloar
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
September 22, 2015 8:00PM
COLLINGWOOD will use a pick from next year’s draft to seal the deal for Greater Western Sydney midfield jet Adam Treloar.
The Magpies are prepared to hand over a first-round draft pick from this year’s draft and, for the first time, part with a second-round selection from next year’s lottery to guarantee the agreement.
Treloar’s signature is a key plank in Nathan Buckley’s plans to lead the Magpies to finals next year after missing out on September action in the past two seasons.
Collingwood has already held preliminary talks with GWS about Treloar, with a deal now considered a formality, despite ongoing interest from Richmond and North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-to-use-first-and-second-round-draft-picks-to-secure-adam-treloar/story-fnj3twbb-1227539243964
Still not as good as 2 first rounders in my book?
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Uncle gill tapped em on the shoulder?
Witts and a first rounder is too obvious?
Circus
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Surley we have put our first round picks this years and next on the table?
I still don't believe we're out of this race yet, there's allot more to play out here just yet.
Why are we worried about giving away a first round draft pick. I will stand corrected but wasn't Lennon a first round draft pick? we develop him Don't play him (giving Newman a game instead) he gets peed off and maybe leaves.
Corey Ellis is injured probably never to play again knowing our luck.
So what poor unfortunate are we going to draft who Hardwick will not give a go?
FFS Hartley Blair and/or our team selection panel are useless
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Lennon has played about a half of good football, Newman thoroughly deserved his selection at the end of this season. We have offered our first pick from this year and next. Whats your point?
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Lennon has played about a half of good football
not sure if serious :-\
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Surley we have put our first round picks this years and next on the table?
I still don't believe we're out of this race yet, there's allot more to play out here just yet.
Why are we worried about giving away a first round draft pick. I will stand corrected but wasn't Lennon a first round draft pick? we develop him Don't play him (giving Newman a game instead) he gets peed off and maybe leaves.
Corey Ellis is injured probably never to play again knowing our luck.
So what poor unfortunate are we going to draft who Hardwick will not give a go?
FFS Hartley Blair and/or our team selection panel are useless
^^
bloody fair point
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Lennon has played about a half of good football
not sure if serious :-\
Slight exaggeration, but he's played 11 games in hi career, 3 as the sub and had a lot of quiet moments. My point was Newman over Lennon was perfectly justified.
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Collingwood to use first and second round draft picks to secure Adam Treloar
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
September 22, 2015 8:00PM
COLLINGWOOD will use a pick from next year’s draft to seal the deal for Greater Western Sydney midfield jet Adam Treloar.
The Magpies are prepared to hand over a first-round draft pick from this year’s draft and, for the first time, part with a second-round selection from next year’s lottery to guarantee the agreement.
Treloar’s signature is a key plank in Nathan Buckley’s plans to lead the Magpies to finals next year after missing out on September action in the past two seasons.
Collingwood has already held preliminary talks with GWS about Treloar, with a deal now considered a formality, despite ongoing interest from Richmond and North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-to-use-first-and-second-round-draft-picks-to-secure-adam-treloar/story-fnj3twbb-1227539243964
Still not as good as 2 first rounders in my book?
1 and 1
is better than
1 and 2
i dont get it :huh
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Lennon has played about a half of good football, Newman thoroughly deserved his selection at the end of this season. We have offered our first pick from this year and next. Whats your point?
Newman deserved his selection??, last game, would rather put the experience into someone else. If he deserved his selection so much how come no one carried him off the ground? Every other team carries their champs off the ground in their last game, why didn't that happen for Newman?? Reading between the lines there would have to be a reason for this...I wonder what? :banghead :banghead :banghead
Possibly his team mates knew he was a dead weight and did not agree with the selection??? :huh
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Collingwood to use first and second round draft picks to secure Adam Treloar
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
September 22, 2015 8:00PM
COLLINGWOOD will use a pick from next year’s draft to seal the deal for Greater Western Sydney midfield jet Adam Treloar.
The Magpies are prepared to hand over a first-round draft pick from this year’s draft and, for the first time, part with a second-round selection from next year’s lottery to guarantee the agreement.
Treloar’s signature is a key plank in Nathan Buckley’s plans to lead the Magpies to finals next year after missing out on September action in the past two seasons.
Collingwood has already held preliminary talks with GWS about Treloar, with a deal now considered a formality, despite ongoing interest from Richmond and North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-to-use-first-and-second-round-draft-picks-to-secure-adam-treloar/story-fnj3twbb-1227539243964
Still not as good as 2 first rounders in my book?
1 and 1
is better than
1 and 2
i dont get it :huh
yes exactly, I would like to know wtf is going on?
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Lennon has played about a half of good football, Newman thoroughly deserved his selection at the end of this season. We have offered our first pick from this year and next. Whats your point?
Newman deserved his selection??, last game, would rather put the experience into someone else. If he deserved his selection so much how come no one carried him off the ground? Every other team carries their champs off the ground in their last game, why didn't that happen for Newman?? Reading between the lines there would have to be a reason for this...I wonder what? :banghead :banghead :banghead
Possibly his team mates knew he was a dead weight and did not agree with the selection??? :huh
I was at the game , Newy declined to be chaired off , you could see a couple of players offer and he said no
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I was there too, must have missed that, thank you for the info!!
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BLUES’ BOLD PLAN
CARLTON is likely to demand versatile Richmond youngster Ben Lennon when it heads to the trade table to deal for want-away speedster Chris Yarran.
Having been dropped midway through the year for “failing to meet on-field standards”, Yarran has requested a trade from the Blues and is almost certain to land at the Tigers.
Carlton can afford to be bold when discussing trade options for Yarran, who remains under contract until the end of the 2016 season.
Taken with pick six in the 2008 national draft, Yarran has played 119 games at the Blues but has excited and frustrated in equal measure.
The out-of-contract Lennon is yet to renew his deal at Richmond after saying in August he would “finish off the year and probably think about it”.
The 20-year-old has played 16 games after being taken with the Tigers’ first pick at the 2013 national draft.
He was nominated for the Rising Star in Round 22 this year, but was dropped just two weeks later ahead of the side’s elimination final against North Melbourne.
Lennon was drafted from the Northern Knights, was a boyhood Carlton supporter and is close friends with Dylan Buckley.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-market-watch-hamish-hartlett-to-remain-at-port-adelaide-ben-lennon-in-demand-brisbane-busy/story-e6frf3e3-1227538944136
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it must be a good lark to get paid to troll the ferals on football forums
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Ahhhh, there you go, I didn't realise there was a link to him at the Blues..also didn't realise he was a scum supporter.. :thumbsdown >:(
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carlton is likely to demand???...i know when negotiations take place the quickest way to end such negotiations is to continullay demand
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Collingwood to use first and second round draft picks to secure Adam Treloar
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
September 22, 2015 8:00PM
COLLINGWOOD will use a pick from next year’s draft to seal the deal for Greater Western Sydney midfield jet Adam Treloar.
The Magpies are prepared to hand over a first-round draft pick from this year’s draft and, for the first time, part with a second-round selection from next year’s lottery to guarantee the agreement.
Treloar’s signature is a key plank in Nathan Buckley’s plans to lead the Magpies to finals next year after missing out on September action in the past two seasons.
Collingwood has already held preliminary talks with GWS about Treloar, with a deal now considered a formality, despite ongoing interest from Richmond and North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-to-use-first-and-second-round-draft-picks-to-secure-adam-treloar/story-fnj3twbb-1227539243964
Still not as good as 2 first rounders in my book?
1 and 1
is better than
1 and 2
i dont get it :huh
yes exactly, I would like to know wtf is going on?
Collingwood's 1st round pick will carry more points than Richmond's 1st round pick
The difference between these two picks will be similar to the difference between Richmond's 2016 1st round pick and their 2016 2nd round pick
So in points value Richmonds 2015 1st and 2016 1st = (approximately) Collingwoods 2015 1st and 2016 2nd
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Collingwood's 1st round pick will carry more points than Richmond's 1st round pick
The difference between these two picks will be similar to the difference between Richmond's 2016 1st round pick and their 2016 2nd round pick
So in points value Richmonds 2015 1st and 2016 1st = (approximately) Collingwoods 2015 1st and 2016 2nd
I dunno, that purely depends on if Collingwood finish bottom 4 and Richmond finish top 4. And that's before you factor in FA picks etc. If we finish similar to last year its around 15 slots different.
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Blues can demand what they like
tigers should offer what they think is fair = 2nd round pick and that's it. Take it or leave it
And can I just add dogged is 100% correct, Newman declined being chaired off by his teammates.
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SINCE Chris Yarran informed Carlton he wanted to be traded, just one club has been linked to the exciting half-back as a possible suitor.
Richmond is the hot favourite to snare the services of the ex-Blues defender, with Fox Footy revealing on Tuesday that the Blues would demand versatile Tigers youngster Ben Lennon for Yarran.
But there’s a club north of the Victorian border that probably needs Yarran just as much as what the Tigers do. And Yarran probably needs this club just as dearly.
The Sydney Swans and Yarran could be an ideal fit.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-trade-2015-could-chris-yarran-fill-hole-in-sydney-backline/story-e6frf3e3-1227542297672
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so we'll end up with a bag of mixed lollies again :lol
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SINCE Chris Yarran informed Carlton he wanted to be traded, just one club has been linked to the exciting half-back as a possible suitor.
Richmond is the hot favourite to snare the services of the ex-Blues defender, with Fox Footy revealing on Tuesday that the Blues would demand versatile Tigers youngster Ben Lennon for Yarran.
But there’s a club north of the Victorian border that probably needs Yarran just as much as what the Tigers do. And Yarran probably needs this club just as dearly.
The Sydney Swans and Yarran could be an ideal fit.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-trade-2015-could-chris-yarran-fill-hole-in-sydney-backline/story-e6frf3e3-1227542297672
Lmao.
What an uneducated opinion.
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Whatever. They're not getting Lennon for Yarran unless we get a trade up of picks at the very minimum....
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Is Yarren a lock, I don't think so.
Swans sniffing around
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Is Yarren a lock, I don't think so.
Swans sniffing around
Swans would need to use their first round pick to top our second rounder and they need their first round pick for their Academy selection. So they would need to find another first rounder (Jetta to Freo/WC?).
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Barrett on the Footy Show tonight:
"Richmond made one last desperate bid to get Treloar.
Blair Hartley made personal contact with Treloar to try and make him reconsider.
What this showed is Richmond's belief of a dubious Collingwood deal is still raw.
Richmond has now backed off and Treloar will definitely end up at Collingwood."
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Blair Hackley how desperate can an inidividual get. Pies meanwhile have Balmy doing their deals.
Sack this overrated bum and we finally start to get some quality through the doors
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Blair Hackley how desperate can an inidividual get. Pies meanwhile have Balmy doing their deals.
Sack this overrated bum and we finally start to get some quality through the doors
It is well known I'm not a Hartley fan.
But struth Angus what exactly is it you want?.
You bag then because the kid chooses the Pies, bag them for not going hard enough at said kid, not offering enough etc.
Club tries again which is what most people demanded and you now say they are being desperate
So tell us what exactly should they have done..
I will repeat I am not a Hartley fan and hate even remotely defending him but could you at least try and be vaguely consistent with what you are what you bagging him and the club for
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I would have thought I have been ultra consistent with most of my posts but il do a caps lock for you
SACK THE BUM
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I would have thought I have been ultra consistent with most of my posts but il do a caps lock for you
SACK THE BUM
::) ::)
Whatever, you are consistent about one thing and that's your ever present refusal to actually answer any question put to you :thumbsup
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Damn, I guess I can throw my vodoo doll out now. Shattered we wont be getting Treloar. Ah well, I guess its Bennell or bust now. :banghead
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Is Yarren a lock, I don't think so.
Swans sniffing around
Swans would need to use their first round pick to top our second rounder and they need their first round pick for their Academy selection. So they would need to find another first rounder (Jetta to Freo/WC?).
Cmon who in their right mind will pay a first round pick for that squib. Hes even softer than Yarran, or is he??????.
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The dogs bark the Camel train moves on!
Glad the Richmond recruiting team have shifted and are focusing on the achievable
Would be happy to get Aish or Bennel or Yarram or Kruzer without losing any up and comers like Lennon or McBean
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Is Yarren a lock, I don't think so.
Swans sniffing around
Swans would need to use their first round pick to top our second rounder and they need their first round pick for their Academy selection. So they would need to find another first rounder (Jetta to Freo/WC?).
Cmon who in their right mind will pay a first round pick for that squib. Hes even softer than Yarran, or is he??????.
Both are soft, but unlike Yarran, Jetta is a premiership player, so some other clubs will remember Jetta's form in 2012 when he kicked 45 goals and terrorised oppositions with his pace and line-breaking. I'm not saying he's worth a first rounder but I could see a Freo or West Coast, with a first pick around the 20 mark, willing to cough that up for Jetta in a shallow draft.
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A lot of the discussion MT was about Jett a making a move to the Eagles
Good point about his 2012 season too as whilst swans have had a poor year they still finished top 4 and if they had an in form Jetta may have made a difference. Or so the experts say
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From Barrett's latest 'Sliding Doors' column ...
Whispers about Collingwood's offer to Adam Treloar won't go away
IF ... the Tigers truly believe Collingwood's Treloar chase is fish-rot-stench rotten ...
THEN ... please bring us all in on the theory.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-25/sliding-doors-finals-week-three
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Blues fans on Carlton forums now claiming Yarran wants to go to Melbourne lol.
Sorry all Richmond supporters... Seems Yaz is keen on the Dees. Little strange as I thought he wanted to leave for the chasing success thingy.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-banter-thread-all-welcome-yarran-trade-preaching-within.1085144/page-232#post-41166632
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Blues fans on Carlton forums now claiming Yarran wants to go to Melbourne lol.
Sorry all Richmond supporters... Seems Yaz is keen on the Dees. Little strange as I thought he wanted to leave for the chasing success thingy.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-banter-thread-all-welcome-yarran-trade-preaching-within.1085144/page-232#post-41166632
That thread was literally Rich and Carl blokes arguing over who's the shytter club. Good for a laugh!
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Carlton's Chris Yarran may stay with the Blues according to Football Boss Andrew McKay.
“I wouldn’t say definitely,” the Blues footy boss told SEN when asked if the speedy defender would leave Carlton.
“Certainly, there’s a bit of talk around that he wants to go to Richmond.
“Richmond haven’t approached us at all. He is a contracted player still, but there is a bit of water to flow under the bridge. There’s certainly nothing definite there.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-chris-yarran-no-certainty-to-leave-carlton-blues-believe-lachie-henderson-worth-first-round-pick/story-fni5f5nx-1227548602797
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Carlton's Chris Yarran may stay with the Blues according to Football Boss Andrew McKay.
“I wouldn’t say definitely,” the Blues footy boss told SEN when asked if the speedy defender would leave Carlton.
“Certainly, there’s a bit of talk around that he wants to go to Richmond.
“Richmond haven’t approached us at all. He is a contracted player still, but there is a bit of water to flow under the bridge. There’s certainly nothing definite there.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-chris-yarran-no-certainty-to-leave-carlton-blues-believe-lachie-henderson-worth-first-round-pick/story-fni5f5nx-1227548602797
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Q. Hi Jay, should blues keep Yarran if they can't get first round pick for him?
Jay Clark: History tells us players who don't want to be at a footy club move on. Best for all parties. His stocks dropped through the floor this year. Maybe a pick in between 15-25 is fair.
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Q. Where is Jack Redden heading?
Jay Clark: West Coast, Adelaisde or Richmond.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-interested-in-gws-midfielder-liam-sumner/story-fnj3twbb-1227547469262
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70 pages and still nobody has a clue. :lol Its a bit like watching the entire series of "Lost" all over again.
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The Tigers' priority remains securing Chris Yarran from Carlton, and they are still weighing up what trades for each of the players would require.
The Tigers want to trade their second-round pick to Carlton for the versatile, fast-running player.
Carlton are insistent the Tigers' second pick is insufficient and want Richmond's first pick in the draft. Trading of future picks may have to form part of a deal.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-ross-lyon-says-race-for-harely-bennell-down-to-west-australian-clubs-20150929-gjxoqs.html
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The Tigers' priority remains securing Chris Yarran from Carlton, and they are still weighing up what trades for each of the players would require.
The Tigers want to trade their second-round pick to Carlton for the versatile, fast-running player.
Carlton are insistent the Tigers' second pick is insufficient and want Richmond's first pick in the draft. Trading of future picks may have to form part of a deal.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-ross-lyon-says-race-for-harely-bennell-down-to-west-australian-clubs-20150929-gjxoqs.html
2nd rounder feels.right for mine, maybe even a little overs on our part. If anyone wants to outbid us, go ahead. No skin off my neck.
And if he has told Carlton he wants to come to us, they should be making sure they facilitate his wishes.
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Richmond should tell Carlton to FO.
He's been playing magoos FFS and doesn't even want to be at their debacle of a club.
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Hopefully we don't even want him and is a smokescreen :shh
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Adam Treloar opened up on the Marngrook Footy Show, highlighting Collingwood's 'great young list' as the reason he wants to play for the Magpies in 2016.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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what about grigg chaplin houli hampson thomas
:huh :huh :huh
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 tonight said missing out on Bennell puts more pressure on Richmond to land Chris Yarran. Trade scribes saying Yarran is worth a first round pick ::) and Carlton will want a first round pick.
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RFC you better not give up pick 12 for Yarran...he aint worth that much
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what about grigg chaplin houli hampson thomas
:huh :huh :huh
They weren't on the show
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Yeah agree, pick 2 for Yarran and that's it.
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:huh
i thought you said you were in a dry camp?
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:huh
i thought you said you were in a dry camp?
:lol I meant a second rounder :thumbsup
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what about grigg chaplin houli hampson thomas
:huh :huh :huh
They weren't on the show
Ha!
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 tonight said missing out on Bennell puts more pressure on Richmond to land Chris Yarran. Trade scribes saying Yarran is worth a first round pick ::) and Carlton will want a first round pick.
Pressure to land one of the softest players on the market this year. There should no pressure he is worth a second and if not FO.
Get used to us coughing up a first round pick inside 18 here guys if we land yazzz.
This as Jackstar would say is FACT!!
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At this point in time with Yarran the way he is and had been all year we could not possibly be stupid enough to give up pick 12... Seriously we just could not be that stupid.
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We do were stuffed
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 tonight said missing out on Bennell puts more pressure on Richmond to land Chris Yarran. Trade scribes saying Yarran is worth a first round pick ::) and Carlton will want a first round pick.
Pressure to land one of the softest players on the market this year. There should no pressure he is worth a second and if not FO.
Get used to us coughing up a first round pick inside 18 here guys if we land yazzz.
This as Jackstar would say is FACT!!
That's media pressure. Tom Browne is a Pies man and he may be rubbing it in over Treloar etc, would rather keep our picks than find something that's not the right fit. If blokes do not want to come so be it but at the same time lets not give away our picks for the fruitless exercise of appeasing the masses to show that we are being proactive. Jordan McMahon, Shaun Hampson anyone?
Getting the right player is like buying the right car. A family with three kids don't need a Ferrari even though a Ferrari is a car albeit an expensive one and Mr and Mrs Jones can afford it. When possibly a Ford Territory or a Mazda CX-9 will do the job also and more conveniently and correctly. Not every millionare with a budget drives a European Sport or Luxury Car.
The club needs to get this right. Has to be the right fit and if he does not want to be here well move on. If you're looking for a house you din't waste your money when you can't find one frittering it away on other things. Just because its there it does not mean it right for you and you are right for it.
Trade week starts Friday lets see how ambitious or conservative our club is.
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Richmond has considerable salary cap space to accommodate some star signings to bolster its list on the back of three-straight elimination final exits.
The Tigers are still expected to secure Yarran in the exchange period, although the two clubs have been unable to agree to terms of a deal.
The Blues want a first-round draft pick for the 24-year-old, while the Tigers believe he is worth a second-round selection.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d6z-1227556382433
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Richmond has considerable salary cap space to accommodate some star signings to bolster its list on the back of three-straight elimination final exits.
The Tigers are still expected to secure Yarran in the exchange period, although the two clubs have been unable to agree to terms of a deal.
The Blues want a first-round draft pick for the 24-year-old, while the Tigers believe he is worth a second-round selection.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d6z-1227556382433
We won't be trading it for Yarran, so they need to move on or find someone else to trade with.
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Richmond has considerable salary cap space to accommodate some star signings to bolster its list on the back of three-straight elimination final exits.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d6z-1227556382433
Problem is we cannot get a star player to want to sign with us. We had an additional $500k to spend I believe due to not paying the maximum TPP over the past two seasons. How have we not been able to lure a star by front ending his contract and lure him? WTF is going on :banghead
Just tells me, for some unknown reason, players do not want to come to our club. You'd think after 3 consecutive finals, sorting ourselves out off field as well that we'd be attractive to players . . . to date it doesn't appear that way. I'd love to know why say Collingwood/Geelong are more attractive to join than Richmond? I can understand Hawthorn as every players wants to win a premiership and they've got 3 in a row....
Our club needs better players if we are going to win a final. We need A-grade ready made players, not an 18yo who is going to be playing VFL all season. Where are they going to come from? Dangerfield wants to go to Geelong, Treloar snubbed us for Collingwood, the club has said no to Bennell (speculative at best as to why at this stage). That's 3 players who were available that would ave improved our list on end, that we have failed to get (as it stands).
Who is left available that is A-grade?
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who was availabe is A grade?
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who was availabe is A grade?
Anyone for Chris Dawes? As slow as Chaplin and dimma loves him.
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who was availabe is A grade?
Anyone for Chris Dawes? As slow as Chaplin and dimma loves him.
No for me, his day has come, all over.
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Richmond has considerable salary cap space to accommodate some star signings to bolster its list on the back of three-straight elimination final exits.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d6z-1227556382433
Problem is we cannot get a star player to want to sign with us. We had an additional $500k to spend I believe due to not paying the maximum TPP over the past two seasons. How have we not been able to lure a star by front ending his contract and lure him? WTF is going on :banghead
Just tells me, for some unknown reason, players do not want to come to our club. You'd think after 3 consecutive finals, sorting ourselves out off field as well that we'd be attractive to players . . . to date it doesn't appear that way. I'd love to know why say Collingwood/Geelong are more attractive to join than Richmond? I can understand Hawthorn as every players wants to win a premiership and they've got 3 in a row....
Our club needs better players if we are going to win a final. We need A-grade ready made players, not an 18yo who is going to be playing VFL all season. Where are they going to come from? Dangerfield wants to go to Geelong, Treloar snubbed us for Collingwood, the club has said no to Bennell (speculative at best as to why at this stage). That's 3 players who were available that would ave improved our list on end, that we have failed to get (as it stands).
Who is left available that is A-grade?
You can answer your own question.
Treloar went to the Pies for more money. We didn't want him to be the highest paid player in the side. More than guys that have been busting their behinds for years for the club.
Dangerfield wants to live in Moggs Creek and cruise in to training which is a 10 minute drive. We cannot offer that. It isn't the money for him.
Bennell must have issues that the club didn't want to go near. Just think about it for a moment. Gold Coast have him under contract but still want to get rid of him. Doesn't that tell you anything?
Take a breath and think about this logically. I want to see us get an A grader just as much as anyone but we have to work through these things sensibly.
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
Bang! There it is. Pick 12-20 coming up for the baggas
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
:huh :huh :huh
No... :lol
Pick 30 whatever we have. Or forget it!!
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
Oh lucky us
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
Bang! There it is. Pick 12-20 coming up for the baggas
Astbury + our 2nd for Lions 2nd and 3rd.
That 2nd goes to Blues.
3rd rounder for Taylor Petrenko
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Dioc will ring the admin girl
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LOL @ SOS & McKay insisting this morning that it has to be a 1st rd pick for Yarran. Hey Carlton your dreaming u flogs! :wallywink :wallywink
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LOL @ SOS & McKay insisting this morning that it has to be a 1st rd pick for Yarran. Hey Carlton your dreaming u flogs! :wallywink :wallywink
What did Hampson cost?
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stuff off carlton bunch of tosspot useless tankers
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Yarran's manager this morning on Trade Radio has stated that Yarran officially has requested a trade to Richmond.
As funny as it sounds Im actually happy with that. At least SOMEONE has nominated the tiges. We might have to offer up a little more than our 2nd rounder, but he'll be a solid pick up imo. Go tiges! :thumbsup
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McKay on Yarran:
Chris has decided it's best that he leaves Carlton and he's chosen Richmond.
We'll be fighting tooth and nail for a good deal on Yarran....it will need to be a first pick.
We want a first round pick, but Richmond is baulking at that.
If it's not a first round pick from Richmond, it's going to be unlikely that a deal will get done.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Barrett and Hutchy on Trade Radio saying Yarran is worth between picks 20-28.
Richmond won't be giving up pick 12 while pick 31 isn't high enough. Richmond don't have that in-between pick, so that's where talk about Lennon and Astbury becomes interesting.
Brisbane's Pick 21 for Astbury and then ontrading pick 21 would most likely get the Yarran deal done.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL/live-radio-popup?id=129110a0
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RFC to get sucked in again.... Give them 31 or walk!!
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CARLTON is unmoved on its demands for first-round draft picks in return for wantaway stars Chris Yarran and Lachie Henderson, head of football Andrew McKay says.
The Blues are set to dial up the pressure on Richmond to meet their asking price to get a deal done for speedster Yarran, who is contracted for next year but has nominated the Tigers as his club of choice.
Yarran's manager Paul Connors said on NAB AFL Trade Radio on Monday that Richmond was "strong on only a second-round pick" but hoped there would be "a happy medium somewhere".
McKay said the Blues were willing to get a deal done for the right pick.
"Let's make it very, very clear that he's a contracted player so we'll be fighting tooth-and-nail for the best possible pick for Chris, because he is a quality player," McKay said.
"We want a first-round pick. Richmond are baulking at that by the sound of it, but that's just all part of the negotiation process."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-05/carlton-insistent-on-early-picks-for-yarran-henderson
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RFC to get sucked in again.... Give them 31 or walk!!
Haha, methinks they'll hold true this time. I have faith. :rollin
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RFC to get sucked in again.... Give them 31 or walk!!
Haha, methinks they'll hold true this time. I have faith. :rollin
It will be the Astbury trade to the Lions for pick 21 that gets it done. I would rather keep Astbury.
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RFC to get sucked in again.... Give them 31 or walk!!
Haha, methinks they'll hold true this time. I have faith. :rollin
It will be the Astbury trade to the Lions for pick 21 that gets it done. I would rather keep Astbury.
Me too. Pick 21 is still overs anyway imo. But we'll have to give up more than our 2nd rounder which sucks.
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RFC to get sucked in again.... Give them 31 or walk!!
Haha, methinks they'll hold true this time. I have faith. :rollin
It will be the Astbury trade to the Lions for pick 21 that gets it done. I would rather keep Astbury.
Me too. Pick 21 is still overs anyway imo. But we'll have to give up more than our 2nd rounder which sucks.
Yeah when you consider Dangerfield is going to the Cats for pick 14 and Buddy went to the Swans for pick 20!!!! Somehow Yarran for a player and pick 21 just makes no sense.
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Dioc will ring the admin girl
Couldn't get through...apparently some crackpot rings the club 10 times a day, asking when Chaplin & Grigg are going to be delisted...
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Dioc will ring the admin girl
Couldn't get through...apparently some crackpot rings the club 10 times a day, asking when Chaplin & Grigg are going to be delisted...
:lol
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Would we be happy with just an exchange of picks for Yarran
We give away pick 12 and get back Carlton's pick 20??
They possibly won't go for that.
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Dioc will ring the admin girl
Couldn't get through...apparently some crackpot rings the club 10 times a day, asking when Chaplin & Grigg are going to be delisted...
That's not a bad idea actually ...
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Barrett and Hutchy on Trade Radio saying Yarran is worth between picks 20-28.
Richmond won't be giving up pick 12 while pick 31 isn't high enough. Richmond don't have that in-between pick, so that's where talk about Lennon and Astbury becomes interesting.
Brisbane's Pick 21 for Astbury and then ontrading pick 21 would most likely get the Yarran deal done.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL/live-radio-popup?id=129110a0
Lol gee whiz
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Barrett and Hutchy on Trade Radio saying Yarran is worth between picks 20-28.
Richmond won't be giving up pick 12 while pick 31 isn't high enough. Richmond don't have that in-between pick, so that's where talk about Lennon and Astbury becomes interesting.
Brisbane's Pick 21 for Astbury and then ontrading pick 21 would most likely get the Yarran deal done.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL/live-radio-popup?id=129110a0
Whilst Astbury hasn't been able to do much since his injury last season, surely we're still paying overs once again for a bloke who doesn't want to be at his club nor has shown much
Lol gee whiz
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Would we be happy with just an exchange of picks for Yarran
We give away pick 12 and get back Carlton's pick 20??
They possibly won't go for that.
Noooooooooo. Pick 12 is a decent chance at getting a player. Pick 20 and chances are going to be quite slim in a weak draft.
Dangerfield wants to live in Moggs Creek and cruise in to training which is a 10 minute drive.
More like an hour ::)
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Dioc will ring the admin girl
Couldn't get through...apparently some crackpot rings the club 10 times a day, asking when Chaplin & Grigg are going to be delisted...
:lol
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Would we be happy with just an exchange of picks for Yarran
We give away pick 12 and get back Carlton's pick 20??
They possibly won't go for that.
Noooooooooo. Pick 12 is a decent chance at getting a player. Pick 20 and chances are going to be quite slim in a weak draft.
Dangerfield wants to live in Moggs Creek and cruise in to training which is a 10 minute drive.
More like an hour ::)
Ok then 48 min..... ::)
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Not in traffic :shh
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Barrett and Hutchy on Trade Radio saying Yarran is worth between picks 20-28.
Richmond won't be giving up pick 12 while pick 31 isn't high enough. Richmond don't have that in-between pick, so that's where talk about Lennon and Astbury becomes interesting.
Brisbane's Pick 21 for Astbury and then ontrading pick 21 would most likely get the Yarran deal done.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL/live-radio-popup?id=129110a0
As if we'll get pick 21 for Astbury anyway lol.
Anywho, if Geelong needs to trade for Dangerfield and can't offer anything for Henderson then I would be offering our first and pick 21 (Astbury) for the two of them. Hell I'd even trade our starting picks of 12 and 30 as well as pick 21 for the two of them.
Not often you get two good players in a draft at RFC. If we could trade pick 12 + 30 + Astbury for Yarran and Henderson I would do it.
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Gotta say it againWhy are even after this soft bum, He wont improve a thing in fact he makes matters worse just another very soft very outside hack..
If we trade astbury and get pick 21, that pick should be a part of a trade to get a Quality player to the club preferably a tall.
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Astbury + pick 30 to Brisbane for pick 21.
:whistle
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Astbury + pick 30 to Brisbane for pick 21.
:whistle
And what then use pick 21 on Yarran sheesh.
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CARLTON is unmoved on its demands for first-round draft picks in return for wantaway stars Chris Yarran and Lachie Henderson, head of football Andrew McKay says.
The Blues are set to dial up the pressure on Richmond to meet their asking price to get a deal done for speedster Yarran, who is contracted for next year but has nominated the Tigers as his club of choice.
Yarran's manager Paul Connors said on NAB AFL Trade Radio on Monday that Richmond was "strong on only a second-round pick" but hoped there would be "a happy medium somewhere".
McKay said the Blues were willing to get a deal done for the right pick.
"Let's make it very, very clear that he's a contracted player so we'll be fighting tooth-and-nail for the best possible pick for Chris, because he is a quality player," McKay said.
"We want a first-round pick. Richmond are baulking at that by the sound of it, but that's just all part of the negotiation process."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-05/carlton-insistent-on-early-picks-for-yarran-henderson
So if no one trades for him then Carlton will be stuck with him. We are the only suitor, he doesn't want to play at Carlton, I say offer a third round pick and Carlton can like it or lump it. We have to play tough on the trade table in this instance, If we don't get him so be it
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We certainly shouldnt give them our first rounder, but he's worth a second round imo, especially considering its a "weak" draft.
I agree, if they dont want to make that trade, let it go. We dont really lose out much. I think Carlton knows that, but they have to talk tough, going to be a tough trade period to sell to their supporters, considering Henderson is gone as well.
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Astbury + pick 30 to Brisbane for pick 21.
:whistle
And what then use pick 21 on Yarran sheesh.
dont you think hes worth a 2nd rounder and a second rounder is probably what it will take......... :whistle
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lets look at it Yarran is about the only player that has come out and said I want to go to Richmond don't see anyone doing that. sure he is contracted but carlton wont hold onto him if he wants out think we will get the deal done for a second round pick as long as geelong offer theres for hando which would help us out
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Ruckmen
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baby steps......baby steps
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Benny Gale at the B&F tonight confirmed we are looking at Yarran to play in our forward line as he has kicked 30-40 goals in a single season as a forward. He also said Carlton are asking too much.
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I like it. :thumbsup
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Nathan Brown: "If I had to choose between Ben Lennon or Chris Yarran, I would take Lennon easily"
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Yep so would I Browny, so would I.
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Think we all would. Have fun dealing with Yarran sooking All next year blubs. Meanwhile we snare the next Patrick Cripps at pick 31. :thumbsup
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Nathan Brown: "If I had to choose between Ben Lennon or Chris Yarran, I would take Lennon easily"
https://twitter.com/traderadio
Need to get this bloke back to the club.....
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Nathan Brown: "If I had to choose between Ben Lennon or Chris Yarran, I would take Lennon easily"
https://twitter.com/traderadio
What if only one wants to play for us?
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Then we must question why Richmond have mishandled a high draft pick 19 year to such an extent
And who is to blame
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Then we must question why Richmond have mishandled a high draft pick 19 year to such an extent
And who is to blame
Do we take into account his own attitude, fitness and performance or is it just a full on bag of the RFC?
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There is a lot of supposition being made here. The guy had hip surgery on Monday and was on crutches but still wanted to go to the b&f. That tells me he wants to stay. I hope his manager isn't the one shopping him around a la Ralph Carr!
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I cannot speak for attitude
But some I the games best ever players, several have been wankers
IMO his performance and fitness is good ... :shh
Kicks like a laser beam
Marks like the claw of life
Lights up the forward line like lighthouse of Alexandra
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There is a lot of supposition being made here. The guy had hip surgery on Monday and was on crutches but still wanted to go to the b&f. That tells me he wants to stay. I hope his manager isn't the one shopping him around a la Ralph Carr!
The facts are he's no longer a Richmond player in a few days
As it stands
Apparently
According to the cyclops contracts thread
(Gospel
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There is a lot of supposition being made here. The guy had hip surgery on Monday and was on crutches but still wanted to go to the b&f. That tells me he wants to stay. I hope his manager isn't the one shopping him around a la Ralph Carr!
The facts are he's no longer a Richmond player in a few days
As it stands
Apparently
According to the cyclops contracts thread
(Gospel
The facts are he still a Richmond player.......
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It seems we are in stern form of agreeing with each other
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He remains a contracted Richmond player until 31 October
After that remains he an uncontracted listed Richmond player until he's removed from our list. Which can be up until the list lodgement date prior to the pre-season draft
I've said all along that the kid wants to stay. Nothing has changed my mind on that. It's all about getting a deal done. His manager and the RFC's list "guru" need to just get the thing done. Both parties should cut the crap, the posturing, the games and do a deal
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Hawks now into Yarran :banghead
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Hawks now into Yarran :banghead
He's nominated us though. Good luck.to him, would like him, wont be shattered if he goes elsewhere. Carlton are not getting our first rounder.
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Hawks now into Yarran :banghead
He's nominated us though. Good luck.to him, would like him, wont be shattered if he goes elsewhere. Carlton are not getting our first rounder.
Would like him also but the carrot the Hawks dangle (flags) could be tempting. Yarran would be a great pick up for us at the right price.
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Hawks now into Yarran :banghead
Good - hope they get him.
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Hawthorn could join Richmond in race for Chris Yarran
Kathy McCabe National Music Writer :huh3
Herald-Sun
October 7, 2015
HAWTHORN has roared into AFL trade discussions by inquiring about Carlton rebounding defender Chris Yarran.
Yarran is still intent on playing with Richmond, which continues to work with the Blues on a deal for the contracted 24-year-old.
The Herald Sun understands Hawthorn recently flagged its interest in Yarran.
The Hawks had this month flagged a barren trade period given a tight salary cap but their interest in Yarran shows they could again get deals done in coming weeks.
While they must retain key forward Ryan Schoenmakers, the retirements of Brian Lake and David Hale will clear up some salary cap room.
The Hawks also took off the table a deal for dual premiership defender Matt Suckling, who must now negotiate another deal or move elsewhere.
The loss of Lake, Hale, Suckling and potentially Brendan Whitecross to Brisbane would clear up to $1 million of salary cap space, most of which would be used on player retention.
Hawthorn chief executive Stuart Fox last month told the Herald Sun the Hawks would not be chasing the likes of Harley Bennell.
“We continue to be linked to rival players and that comes as a surprise to us,’’ he said.
“We are likely to be less active this year in terms of chasing free agents.”
The Tigers are in a strong position to secure Yarran, who they believe is the perfect addition to a side chasing rebound from defence.
Yarran finished fourth in Carlton’s 2014 best-and-fairest, with Richmond trying to acquire outside speed and defenders who can charge from defence to kick goals.
The Hawthorn model has elite ball users with pace in defence and the Tigers have prioritised that in this year’s trade period.
In 2014 he also kicked 21 goals and finished second in the AFL for running bounces, with the Tigers confident he will rediscover his zest for footy at a new club.
They will not give up their first selection — pick 12 — but if they could access a pick between 15-20 believe that is a fairer price to pay than their second-round selection.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-hawthorn-could-join-richmond-in-race-for-chris-yarran/story-fnj3twbb-1227560805107
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Well it's certainly music to my ears....
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I don't think the Hawks have enough to offer pick wise or player. Who knows though, the worse thing this does for us now though is push his price up. But we need to stick fat and only offer the second rounder.
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Hawks don't want him
Making us pay overs
:whistle
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Hawks don't want him
Making us pay overs
:whistle
yep they have their eye on something else we must like too
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Jon Ralph on SEN:
Richmond heard Hawthorn were interested in Yarran. So Ralph contacted Yarran's manager and he confirmed the Hawks had contacted them. Just an enquiry and there was no contract offer. Yarran's "people" told Hawthorn that discussions with Richmond are already a fair way down the track and Richmond is where he wants to go to.
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Chris Fa-gan has shot down Jon Ralph's reports that the Hawks could snap up Chris Yarran, declaring the club would be unlikely to do anything in this trade period due to a very tight salary cap – even after the retirements of Brian Lake and David Hale.
Instead, the Hawks will turn their attention to their kids, hoping they can step up to lift the club to a fourth consecutive flag.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-rabbits-in-hawks-trade-hat-20151007-gk3med.html
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Hawks don't need Yarran.
Hale and Lake gone.
Ceglar, Schoenmakers and Spangher ready to come straight in.
Blokes like Hartung gearing up to replace Hodge/Mitchell.
Talk about great list management...
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Damn....
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I know...
Ring te admin girl
Lennon and our first rounder
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I'd rather ring the Hawthorn receptionist and tell them to take the bludger...
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Pick 12 not going to be used on Yarran. :shh
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Pick 12 not going to be used on Yarran. :shh
As long as it's not Lennon either.
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I'd rather ring the Hawthorn receptionist and tell them to take the bludger...
Just this once. GOOOOOO YOU MIGHTY hawks .
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Chris Yarran (Carlton)
Where's he going?
Long linked to Richmond, Yarran seems destined to make his way to the Punt Road next season if the two clubs can work out a deal. Hawthorn was linked to the classy Blue, but he will only meet with the Tigers, dismissing interest from the premiers.
How will he get there?
Another early-Spring standoff has developed, with the Blues adamant that Yarran is worth the Tigers' first pick (No.12). The Tigers' second-round pick is No.31, which would seem unders for the 24-year-old.
The answer could be Richmond's pick No.12 and No.31 for Yarran in exchange for Carlton's pick No.20.
Of course, if Ben Lennon walks, which is highly unlikely, then he might become mixed up in the deal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-11/trade-period-preview-whos-going-where-and-how-will-they-get-there
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Hahaha do it dan and Blair you know u want to lads
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Hawthorn's Graham Wright: We did ask the question on Yarran 6-7 weeks ago, but we were told it was more likely to be Richmond.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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well that's one we got over the premiers hahha.
Wonder what bachar will say to Yarran when he walks in maybe along the lines I hope you have improved your punches hahaha..
All in all I think Chris will be good for our club bigger body pace of the half back and guess what he can kick on both feet which helps, chaplin,bacha,hunt out in a big way hahah.
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Theres no question in my book that he'll be a decent pick up. As long as we dont give up a first rounder for him Im very happy for him to be a tiger. Could be another genuine A grader, could play 10 games for us and thats it. Better than any 2md round pick imo.
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Theres no question in my book that he'll be a decent pick up. As long as we dont give up a first rounder for him Im very happy for him to be a tiger. Could be another genuine A grader, could play 10 games for us and thats it. Better than any 2md round pick imo.
Gee mate wed be wanting more then 10 games from him cant see why he wouldn't be playing all year :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Hawks cool on Richmond-bound Yarran
Travis King
afl.com.au
October 12, 2015 10:46 AM
HAWTHORN has all but ruled itself out of the running to secure Chris Yarran from Carlton after being told that Richmond is his likely destination.
It was reported last week that the Hawks could attempt to lure Yarran away from underneath the Tigers' noses.
But Hawthorn's list and recruiting manager Graham Wright told NAB AFL Trade Radio the Hawks' interest in the 25-year-old has cooled after an initial enquiry.
"We did ask the question about six or seven weeks ago about Chris when we heard that he was looking to move, or Carlton were looking to move him, but we were told then that it looks like it will be Richmond and that was as far as that went," Wright said.
"We haven't spoken to him or his management in the last couple of weeks."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-12/hawks-cool-on-yarran-as-they-expect-him-to-join-tigers
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According to Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7, the Blues are still wanting a first round pick for Yarran ::).
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Why doesn't this surprise we. All the big names in the comp get done on day one and we drag out the guppy deal... :lol...oh RFC....WTF.
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You're right WAT. Guppy deals although this one comes with a Big Fish.
RFC in trade heaven.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjEvp7oxbG5YlSOoZHZxcfQjN5upaEj-qLW33txe0-Mt7MDCyogQ)
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:scream :scream
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Why doesn't this surprise we. All the big names in the comp get done on day one and we drag out the guppy deal... :lol...oh RFC....WTF.
And then we pay overs we all know its going to happen. Paying overs for a soft weak outside non tackling hbf. WOW how tuff are we going to be on the flanks with basher and yazz lol.
And then just up in front of them Brandon Ellis i can see the other teams trembling with fear right now.
HHHAAARRRGGGGHHHH we aren't fixing problems we are adding to them.
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The Blues and Richmond did not advance significantly on the move of contracted running player Chris Yarran to Punt Road. Richmond have said they will not trade their first round pick for Yarran.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2015-saints-explore-pick-slide-for-jake-carlisle-20151012-gk7aji.html#ixzz3oLVsRI1q
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Q. what is on the cards for Richmond to snare yarren, pick or player? if a pick how high and if a player what calibre?
Max Laughton (@dshban) - They don't want to give up pick 12 so a second rounder and c-grader would likely be their offer
Q. any indea on the c grader?
Max Laughton (@dshban) - Sorry, no.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-essendon-st-kilda-carlton-collingwood-headline-major-trade-action/story-fnj3twbb-1227566957748
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Theres no question in my book that he'll be a decent pick up. As long as we dont give up a first rounder for him Im very happy for him to be a tiger. Could be another genuine A grader, could play 10 games for us and thats it. Better than any 2md round pick imo.
Gee mate wed be wanting more then 10 games from him cant see why he wouldn't be playing all year :thumbsup :thumbsup
Absolutely, that was just a best case/ worst case scenario for Yarran.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Hes a B grader with the potential to be an A grader. This is th3 essence of trading of any sort. Recognise a potential gain, trade at the low value point and seek to increase value of acquisition.
Im backing our off field department to get him right.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Hes a B grader with the potential to be an A grader. This is th3 essence of trading of any sort. Recognise a potential gain, trade at the low value point and seek to increase value of acquisition.
Im backing our off field department to get him right.
I'd argue that the trade of an athlete, complete with psychological issues, begs for a completely different technique of trade.
It's called passing.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Hes a B grader with the potential to be an A grader. This is th3 essence of trading of any sort. Recognise a potential gain, trade at the low value point and seek to increase value of acquisition.
Im backing our off field department to get him right.
I'd argue that the trade of an athlete, complete with psychological issues, begs for a completely different technique of trade.
It's called passing.
Oooo....kay.... :huh
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(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/183166_400784d1b740770e89fcbdf17e17cd98.png)
Melbourne gave up picks 61 & 79 for Garlett and pick 83.
We're offering pick 31 and Carlton want pick 12 for Yarran.
What's wrong with this picture?
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(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/183166_400784d1b740770e89fcbdf17e17cd98.png)
Melbourne gave up picks 61 & 79 for Garlett and pick 83.
We're offering pick 31 and Carlton want pick 12 for Yarran.
What's wrong with this picture?
Carlton knows we'll take it where they want it. We are Amatuers
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Would offer Hampson
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Carlton fan on BF:
SOS is asking for more than pick 12
We are asking for Pick 12 + Lennon.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris-yarran.1107542/page-196#post-41498830
:facepalm :lol
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Carlton fan on BF:
SOS is asking for more than pick 12
We are asking for Pick 12 + Lennon.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris-yarran.1107542/page-196#post-41498830
:facepalm :lol
Well, enjoy watching our 2nd pick blossom into a jet whilst Yarran heads back to w.a as a DFA next season then Carlscum...
:facepalm :lol
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Astbury :shh
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Astbury :shh
I've heard we were offered pick 21 and turned it down? :help
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Astbury :shh
I've heard we were offered pick 21 and turned it down? :help
They are trying to pry out 17 from Brisvegas……. :shh
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Astbury :shh
I've heard we were offered pick 21 and turned it down? :help
I heard it was their first pick
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Reckon it will be Cotchin for a top 5 pick
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Reckon it will be Cotchin for a top 5 pick
Cotchin been found?
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Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
:clapping :clapping
That's how it works you want something you have to give something
If we somehow get pick 17 for Astbury then that is a steal
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Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
:clapping :clapping
That's how it works you want something you have to give something
If we somehow get pick 17 for Astbury then that is a steal
Cant see it happening. But Im expecting something along the lines of Astbury out Yarran in.
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astbury for yarran???? could carlton really be that stupid??hope so
yarran would be inside our top 10 would he not???
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astbury for yarran???? could carlton really be that stupid??hope so
yarran would be inside our top 10 would he not???
If he plays to his potential, easily.
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(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/183166_400784d1b740770e89fcbdf17e17cd98.png)
Melbourne gave up picks 61 & 79 for Garlett and pick 83.
We're offering pick 31 and Carlton want pick 12 for Yarran.
What's wrong with this picture?
This is why I was livid that we didn't pick up Garlett.
Kicked 40 goals this year in one of the worst teams going.
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When you trade you don't pay for potential you pay for what you get. If the player improves well that's just a bonus.
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RICHMOND is searching for a late first-round selection to satisfy Carlton's demands for Chris Yarran, with scenarios involving picks being discussed on Tuesday.
It is understood the Tigers value Yarran between pick No.15 and the early 20s, and they acknowledge he is a player worthy of a first-round pick.
The Tigers have ruled out swapping their pick No.12 directly for Yarran, and their second-round selection (No.31) is too late to satisfy the Blues.
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Hmm, looks like we're gunna be trading someone out for a high pick. :banghead :banghead :banghead
A number of scenarios are being discussed – and it remains possible other players could become involved in the deal – but there is a feeling the trade will still take days to play out.
North Melbourne, Fremantle, Hawthorn, the Brisbane Lions and Gold Coast all hold picks between No.15 and No.22 that the Tigers could target.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
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Gee, could we make this any bloody harder, typical RFC, get it done with the second rounder or walk, all this poos not worth it and we will get screwed over again because we are no good at this crap!!!
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are you still in the dry camp WAT?
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are you still in the dry camp WAT?
Yeah, I am back here, with the recruiters from the RFC!!
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Camp Granada?
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Would rather pull out of the race for Yarran then gave to Carlton. If Bennell is worth that then Yarran is worth 31 alone.
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Agree, RFC take note, if the Bennell deal can get done with pick 16, a late second rounder in exchange for an early second rounder and Bennell then Yarran is worth a second round pick AT MOST!!!!
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However we still want our 20 something pick for Arseberry pls
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Agree, RFC take note, if the Bennell deal can get done with pick 16, a late second rounder in exchange for an early second rounder and Bennell then Yarran is worth a second round pick AT MOST!!!!
I think Richmond know that.
It's Carlton that need to understand it
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Trade pick 12 & 31 to GC for 16 & 19. Not sure whether they would do that maybe chuck in a later pick or 2nd pick next year.
Trade 19 to Carlton for Yarran and keep 16.
Done.
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i say jam that idea.
and i suspect GC would too
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Trade pick 12 & 31 to GC for 16 & 19. Not sure whether they would do that maybe chuck in a later pick or 2nd pick next year.
Trade 19 to Carlton for Yarran and keep 16.
Done.
yeah....nah....
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Yarran is not worth a first round pick. He is a footballer you can find in any Aboriginal backyard. Let him & Carlton go elsewhere. Lennon will be a better footballer
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DO NOT give up pick 12 RFC....JUST DO NOT, capitals to emphasise point chuck.
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Too late they already have.
the hold up was carlton not accepting it, saying it was overs.
finally they relented and the deal is done
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Too late they already have.
the hold up was carlton not accepting it, saying it was overs.
finally they relented and the deal is done
Penny, based on the posts above you are you saying we gave Carlton Pick 12 for Yarran? I'm a bit confused as nothing has been reported.
Surely this is a pee take
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Too late they already have.
the hold up was carlton not accepting it, saying it was overs.
finally they relented and the deal is done
Penny, based on the posts above you are you saying we gave Carlton Pick 12 for Yarran? I'm a bit confused as nothing has been reported.
Surely this is a pee take
I just reported it!!!!
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Too late they already have.
the hold up was carlton not accepting it, saying it was overs.
finally they relented and the deal is done
Penny, based on the posts above you are you saying we gave Carlton Pick 12 for Yarran? I'm a bit confused as nothing has been reported.
Surely this is a pee take
I just reported it!!!!
Source?
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Lets just say its colored brown.......
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Paul Connors, Yarran's manager, was on Ch 10 news just now and he was confident the Yarran trade will be done but it will done later next week (trade period ends 2pm Thursday week).
The Ch 10 reporter said Richmond won't trade pick 12, so it'll have to find another pick in the late teens.
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Lets just say its colored brown.......
Bbq
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I suppose we could always TRY Yarran in the ruck
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I suppose we could always TRY Yarran in the ruck
We could try ... it's questionable whether he will.
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Silvagni on Ch 7 news said he's in constant daily contact with the Tigers. All he added was he's hoping for a deal that satisfies both parties.
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I suppose we could always TRY Yarran in the ruck
We could try ... it's questionable whether he will.
Well, that's roght...
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He will probably try for a few weeks and then taper off because he CBF'd anymore.
It's a talent.
X factor.
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http://youtu.be/QEa6amDJsGc (http://youtu.be/QEa6amDJsGc)
This forum needs a little positivity after weeks of relentless club bashing .
Hope this helps.
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Gotta say, that's not a bad highlight reel.
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http://youtu.be/QEa6amDJsGc (http://youtu.be/QEa6amDJsGc)
This forum needs a little positivity after weeks of relentless club bashing .
Hope this helps.
boy are you going to cop it
:outtahere
I hope we do play him off half forward rather than half back
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Gotta say, that's not a bad highlight reel.
True, but Matty White has got a great highlight reel of streaming down the field and slotting goals on the run, and we got nothing for him.
Would be nice to have Yarran in the side but in no way is he a first rounder. His stint in the reserves makes him damaged goods. He has not lived up to his potential, the fact that he was picked at 6 means nothing, it was years ago and many players that were drafted after him have gone ahead of him.
I think the whole Yarran thing is a bit of a distraction while they do us from behind on Lennon.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high.
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I really hate all the players that let us down in big games
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Some people only remember the last season of most footballers, some had the same attitude towards Gartlett last trade period but reality is Gartlett is a very good small forward that Melbourne got for a steal. And IMO Yarran is the same, very very good player when his mind is right, and under Mick it wasn't. I'll be pumped when this trade hopefully goes through.
As for what he is worth, I hope we do get the deal done and keep our first pick but considering Conca and Ellis were both first round selections, it doesn't garrentee you of anything.
Yarran will be our best small forward we have had for some time IMO.
Get the deal done and move onto the next one and I'm not talking about some bloke that cannot get a game for his club, get players that is playing regular AFL footy. We don't need anymore maybes.
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According to Gale we'll be playing him as forward but according to Richardson we'll be playing him as a rebounding defender....
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Personally I think we need more inside mids than outsides. This is an area we get smashed in. Not that a good outsider isn't worth picking up...
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According to Gale well be playing him as forward but according to Richardson we'll be playing him as a rebounding defender....
On one hand I'm hoping gale is correct, but it would be concerning that the CEO knows more about these things than the Football Manager
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I just cant understand people saying no for a second rounder. If we get Chris Yarran at full potential he's worth a first round pick and then some. Just gotta get him right.
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it's only a small word, if, but it carries a lot of weight
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According to Gale well be playing him as forward but according to Richardson we'll be playing him as a rebounding defender....
On one hand I'm hoping gale is correct, but it would be concerning that the CEO knows more about these things than the Football Manager
That's why I'm inclined to believe it's the latter.....
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The Blues are still hoping to get a first-round pick for Chris Yarran, as Richmond strive to trade down in the draft.
The Tigers had explored trading down from pick 31 to pick 17 in a deal that would send David Astbury to Brisbane, but the Lions thus far have rejected that proposition.
Carlton say they will hang on to Yarran if the right deal isn't offered.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2015-lachie-henderson-deal-our-new-way-of-thinking-carlton-20151014-gk98tu.html
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What would rfc do with a first rounder anyway ?
Pick Tambling again?
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What's Carlton's second pick? 19?
I'd be content to trade pick 12 for Yarran + pick 19. Use 19 as part of a trade for Tomlinson.
If the draft is as shallow as everybody thinks then going from 19 to 12 might appeal to Carlton. Meanwhile we're not even playing blokes like Lennon (thanks Hardwick) over the likes of Newman and an underdone Conca/Griffiths so what do we care if we trade our first pick anyway if the kid won't even get a run around for 2-3 years?
Lennon, C Ellis and Lambert coming through, Vlastuin and B Ellis still developing, potential in Menadue/Drummond etc. Wouldn't kill us to trade pick 12 this year...
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People need to stop kidding themselves thinking we have a plethora of talent coming through the ranks and that the current stock we have is GF material.
We need to keep pick 12, if we cant trade that pick for a Treloar/Aish/Redden type then keep the bloody pick and walk away from the Yarran trade.
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What would rfc do with a first rounder anyway ?
Pick Tambling again?
Reece conca mark II
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What would rfc do with a first rounder anyway ?
Pick Tambling again?
Reece conca mark II
Goon squad mark II. We've done better with our first picks than just about every team (since JON :shh). Club doesnt deserve to be potted here. Thats why we're rating our first pick so highly, and why Carlton arnt.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high
He is from here WA. i would have been happy if we had picked him up in the nd. So i rated his potential. I have watched him as much as any non carlton supporter.
He has had good games but his good is very much mixed up with very poor. This has happened right thru his career.
His last season was not much different to his previous years.
My eyes say to me an outside player who is as soft as they come has little accountability is defensively poor and has little consistency my eyes tell me he also drops his bundle.
What i see is very much backed up by stats hence i am prepared to voice a very strong opinion against getting him with anything more than a second round pick.
Key stats for a run and carry player
Disposals - well he averages less than 15 a game. I would be wanting around 20 plus for the role he does. It is so low because he regularly does not get his hands on the ball.I havent done the breakdown but i would say he gets 20 disposals a game about 1/4 of the time. i would say he has had less than 15 disposals a game at least 1/3 of his games with the rest somewhere in between.
He will go out and have a 25 possesion game and then have a 10 possesion game the week after when a club puts work into him.
Tackles - he goes at 2.8 sometimes he uses his pace to run down opponents, when he does it looks great, but it is rare.He is either lazy or not fit when running without the ball.
R/B - Just 1.9 times a game on average this is what we are getting him for my god. Again he looks great when he does actually run and carry but it is not often he does it.
I/50s - Just 2.7 times a game on ave. Again this is what we are getting him for it does not add up.
Goals - Just 0.75 a game. I threw this in because people are talking about playing him forward a bloke who only chases when it suits. Thats the other side to the sml fwd role.
C/Ps - Just 4.4 a game.I throw this in because often you have to go and get the ball for yourself. this is the reason why he only ave 14 possesions a game. He is great when its all on his terms .
CLR - Just 0.4 a game. I include this stat because it is the domain of quick blokes like yarran where they get a ball on the fringes and break away from trouble, it rarely happens.
These are not the stats of an A grade player. Between his overall performances his attitude and his statistical data he is not worth a first round pick. They should be reserved for proven consistent top performers not a flash in the pan player who has huge consistency problems and is too outside.
Personally i believe we have the players to do the role who would be more accountable we just refuse to develop them in the role.
Connor Menadue and Kamdyn McIntosh coming off hb would solve a lot of problems imo.
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What's Carlton's second pick? 19?
I'd be content to trade pick 12 for Yarran + pick 19. Use 19 as part of a trade for Tomlinson.
If the draft is as shallow as everybody thinks then going from 19 to 12 might appeal to Carlton. Meanwhile we're not even playing blokes like Lennon (thanks Hardwick) over the likes of Newman and an underdone Conca/Griffiths so what do we care if we trade our first pick anyway if the kid won't even get a run around for 2-3 years?
Lennon, C Ellis and Lambert coming through, Vlastuin and B Ellis still developing, potential in Menadue/Drummond etc. Wouldn't kill us to trade pick 12 this year...
Lets just use pick 12 to get Tomlinson and dont bother with Yarran. Im pretty sure Gws would not accept pick 19 by itself.
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Tomlinson :bow
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What's Carlton's second pick? 19?
I'd be content to trade pick 12 for Yarran + pick 19. Use 19 as part of a trade for Tomlinson.
If the draft is as shallow as everybody thinks then going from 19 to 12 might appeal to Carlton. Meanwhile we're not even playing blokes like Lennon (thanks Hardwick) over the likes of Newman and an underdone Conca/Griffiths so what do we care if we trade our first pick anyway if the kid won't even get a run around for 2-3 years?
Lennon, C Ellis and Lambert coming through, Vlastuin and B Ellis still developing, potential in Menadue/Drummond etc. Wouldn't kill us to trade pick 12 this year...
Lets just use pick 12 to get Tomlinson and dont bother with Yarran. Im pretty sure Gws would not accept pick 19 by itself.
:clapping this
At this rate we will use a first pick on Yarran or Trade a player to suit their needs. Lose Lennon and still miss out on players because we're dicing around trying to suit the Cheats needs. Didn't we stuffing overpay for Hampson, so why the stuff are they trying to screw us again.
NO MORE BARGAIN BASEMENT BLAIR SPECIALS
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Dan Richardson talking about Yarran:
We're getting closer, we respect Carlton's position and they feel Chris is worth a first round pick.
That's probably fair, but not quite as low as what we hold , we're exploring other avenues to get it done.
Carlton asked for a first round pick on Yarran, obviously the initial stages it's either 12 this year or future picks as well.
We think Chris Yarran is worth a pick around the early 20s.
We're really confident that Chris will get to the Tigers.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high
He is from here WA. i would have been happy if we had picked him up in the nd. So i rated his potential. I have watched him as much as any non carlton supporter.
He has had good games but his good is very much mixed up with very poor. This has happened right thru his career.
His last season was not much different to his previous years.
My eyes say to me an outside player who is as soft as they come has little accountability is defensively poor and has little consistency my eyes tell me he also drops his bundle.
What i see is very much backed up by stats hence i am prepared to voice a very strong opinion against getting him with anything more than a second round pick.
Key stats for a run and carry player
Disposals - well he averages less than 15 a game. I would be wanting around 20 plus for the role he does. It is so low because he regularly does not get his hands on the ball.I havent done the breakdown but i would say he gets 20 disposals a game about 1/4 of the time. i would say he has had less than 15 disposals a game at least 1/3 of his games with the rest somewhere in between.
He will go out and have a 25 possesion game and then have a 10 possesion game the week after when a club puts work into him.
Tackles - he goes at 2.8 sometimes he uses his pace to run down opponents, when he does it looks great, but it is rare.He is either lazy or not fit when running without the ball.
R/B - Just 1.9 times a game on average this is what we are getting him for my god. Again he looks great when he does actually run and carry but it is not often he does it.
I/50s - Just 2.7 times a game on ave. Again this is what we are getting him for it does not add up.
Goals - Just 0.75 a game. I threw this in because people are talking about playing him forward a bloke who only chases when it suits. Thats the other side to the sml fwd role.
C/Ps - Just 4.4 a game.I throw this in because often you have to go and get the ball for yourself. this is the reason why he only ave 14 possesions a game. He is great when its all on his terms .
CLR - Just 0.4 a game. I include this stat because it is the domain of quick blokes like yarran where they get a ball on the fringes and break away from trouble, it rarely happens.
These are not the stats of an A grade player. Between his overall performances his attitude and his statistical data he is not worth a first round pick. They should be reserved for proven consistent top performers not a flash in the pan player who has huge consistency problems and is too outside.
Personally i believe we have the players to do the role who would be more accountable we just refuse to develop them in the role.
Connor Menadue and Kamdyn McIntosh coming off hb would solve a lot of problems imo.
I said he was a run and carry player.....
How about these for stats to supply my argument:
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for total bounces
I think this is the key stat for a run and carry player. They are not huge accumulators of the ball but give you that dash.
Thanks for listening.
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So many of those stats were just porridge. The bloke can run & carry better than anyone in our team and possibly the competition. Look at where we've taken a guy like Houli from to the point he's at now. If we get half the improvement we did out of Houli with Yarran he'll be an A grader.
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Norf go and ruin everything by offering 15 for a VFL player!
If Anderson is worth 15, Yarran is worth pick 1.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high
He is from here WA. i would have been happy if we had picked him up in the nd. So i rated his potential. I have watched him as much as any non carlton supporter.
He has had good games but his good is very much mixed up with very poor. This has happened right thru his career.
His last season was not much different to his previous years.
My eyes say to me an outside player who is as soft as they come has little accountability is defensively poor and has little consistency my eyes tell me he also drops his bundle.
What i see is very much backed up by stats hence i am prepared to voice a very strong opinion against getting him with anything more than a second round pick.
Key stats for a run and carry player
Disposals - well he averages less than 15 a game. I would be wanting around 20 plus for the role he does. It is so low because he regularly does not get his hands on the ball.I havent done the breakdown but i would say he gets 20 disposals a game about 1/4 of the time. i would say he has had less than 15 disposals a game at least 1/3 of his games with the rest somewhere in between.
He will go out and have a 25 possesion game and then have a 10 possesion game the week after when a club puts work into him.
Tackles - he goes at 2.8 sometimes he uses his pace to run down opponents, when he does it looks great, but it is rare.He is either lazy or not fit when running without the ball.
R/B - Just 1.9 times a game on average this is what we are getting him for my god. Again he looks great when he does actually run and carry but it is not often he does it.
I/50s - Just 2.7 times a game on ave. Again this is what we are getting him for it does not add up.
Goals - Just 0.75 a game. I threw this in because people are talking about playing him forward a bloke who only chases when it suits. Thats the other side to the sml fwd role.
C/Ps - Just 4.4 a game.I throw this in because often you have to go and get the ball for yourself. this is the reason why he only ave 14 possesions a game. He is great when its all on his terms .
CLR - Just 0.4 a game. I include this stat because it is the domain of quick blokes like yarran where they get a ball on the fringes and break away from trouble, it rarely happens.
These are not the stats of an A grade player. Between his overall performances his attitude and his statistical data he is not worth a first round pick. They should be reserved for proven consistent top performers not a flash in the pan player who has huge consistency problems and is too outside.
Personally i believe we have the players to do the role who would be more accountable we just refuse to develop them in the role.
Connor Menadue and Kamdyn McIntosh coming off hb would solve a lot of problems imo.
I said he was a run and carry player.....
How about these for stats to supply my argument:
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for total bounces
I think this is the key stat for a run and carry player. They are not huge accumulators of the ball but give you that dash.
Thanks for listening.
He averages 2.8 bounces a game that would equate to one or two carries a game. And that is with little else consistently done well. Im shocked anyone would be prepared to offer up a first round pick based on nothing but a few bounces a game. It does show which no one is arguing with he does run and carry at times and looks all flashy doing in doing so and yes even bounces it is what sells people.
bounces
09 - ave 1.1
10- ave 2.1
11 - ave 5.3
12 - ave 3.0
13 - ave 1.9
14 - ave 3.1
15 - ave 1.5
total ave 2.8 just one outstanding year.
As i have constantly said people are sold by the razzle dazzle. They cant see there is little else to his game. Areas of the game that are more important than lol bouncing the ball.It is just great when he gets less than 15 possesions a game and does little else but wow he had 3 or 4 bounces.
Oh by the way thanks for listening.
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I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high
He is from here WA. i would have been happy if we had picked him up in the nd. So i rated his potential. I have watched him as much as any non carlton supporter.
He has had good games but his good is very much mixed up with very poor. This has happened right thru his career.
His last season was not much different to his previous years.
My eyes say to me an outside player who is as soft as they come has little accountability is defensively poor and has little consistency my eyes tell me he also drops his bundle.
What i see is very much backed up by stats hence i am prepared to voice a very strong opinion against getting him with anything more than a second round pick.
Key stats for a run and carry player
Disposals - well he averages less than 15 a game. I would be wanting around 20 plus for the role he does. It is so low because he regularly does not get his hands on the ball.I havent done the breakdown but i would say he gets 20 disposals a game about 1/4 of the time. i would say he has had less than 15 disposals a game at least 1/3 of his games with the rest somewhere in between.
He will go out and have a 25 possesion game and then have a 10 possesion game the week after when a club puts work into him.
Tackles - he goes at 2.8 sometimes he uses his pace to run down opponents, when he does it looks great, but it is rare.He is either lazy or not fit when running without the ball.
R/B - Just 1.9 times a game on average this is what we are getting him for my god. Again he looks great when he does actually run and carry but it is not often he does it.
I/50s - Just 2.7 times a game on ave. Again this is what we are getting him for it does not add up.
Goals - Just 0.75 a game. I threw this in because people are talking about playing him forward a bloke who only chases when it suits. Thats the other side to the sml fwd role.
C/Ps - Just 4.4 a game.I throw this in because often you have to go and get the ball for yourself. this is the reason why he only ave 14 possesions a game. He is great when its all on his terms .
CLR - Just 0.4 a game. I include this stat because it is the domain of quick blokes like yarran where they get a ball on the fringes and break away from trouble, it rarely happens.
These are not the stats of an A grade player. Between his overall performances his attitude and his statistical data he is not worth a first round pick. They should be reserved for proven consistent top performers not a flash in the pan player who has huge consistency problems and is too outside.
Personally i believe we have the players to do the role who would be more accountable we just refuse to develop them in the role.
Connor Menadue and Kamdyn McIntosh coming off hb would solve a lot of problems imo.
I said he was a run and carry player.....
How about these for stats to supply my argument:
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for total bounces
I think this is the key stat for a run and carry player. They are not huge accumulators of the ball but give you that dash.
Thanks for listening.
He averages 2.8 bounces a game that would equate to one or two carries a game. And that is with little else consistently done well. Im shocked anyone would be prepared to offer up a first round pick based on nothing but a few bounces a game. It does show which no one is arguing with he does run and carry at times and looks all flashy doing in doing so and yes even bounces it is what sells people.
bounces
09 - ave 1.1
10- ave 2.1
11 - ave 5.3
12 - ave 3.0
13 - ave 1.9
14 - ave 3.1
15 - ave 1.5
total ave 2.8 just one outstanding year.
As i have constantly said people are sold by the razzle dazzle. They cant see there is little else to his game. Areas of the game that are more important than lol bouncing the ball.It is just great when he gets less than 15 possesions a game and does little else but wow he had 3 or 4 bounces.
Oh by the way thanks for listening.
If you read my post carefully I argued that the main thing would be what price we are prepared to pay. He is definitely in the top 5 run and carry players in the league. I also think his possessions hurt opposition sides more as most of them are not 1-2 handballs back and forth that inflate your statistical disposal numbers but do little for the team. In other word his 15 disposals probably have a bigger impact than someone else's 25. Shaun Atley averages only one disposal per game and has never accumulated the same super coach/fantasy points that Yarran has. Atley was very important for the Roos in the finals and helped them break lines on many occasions. Without him they probably would not have got to the prelims IMHO. Yarran is that sort of player. A player with flair that we often lack.
Thanks for listening.
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You bastards are giving me seizures, my eye is still twitching
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You bastards are giving me seizures, my eye is still twitching
Which eye?
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Jap's eye.
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Talks with Carlton over a deal for playmaker Chris Yarran are edging closer but will drag on across the weekend.
The Blues are adamant Yarran, 24, is worth a first-round pick but Richmond is refusing to part with its current first selection (pick 12) to secure him.
The expected departure of Tigers defender David Astbury to Brisbane, which holds picks 17 and 21, could help complete the Yarran trade.
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-ben-lennon-signs-new-contract-with-richmond/story-fnj3twbb-1227570586393)
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Talks with Carlton over a deal for playmaker Chris Yarran are edging closer but will drag on across the weekend.
The Blues are adamant Yarran, 24, is worth a first-round pick but Richmond is refusing to part with its current first selection (pick 12) to secure him.
The expected departure of Tigers defender David Astbury to Brisbane, which holds picks 17 and 21, could help complete the Yarran trade.
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-ben-lennon-signs-new-contract-with-richmond/story-fnj3twbb-1227570586393)
Well that's an informative update bursting with new info
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Jap's eye.
:clapping
Too much wasabi stuffed into the old sushimi hole
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Yep, I think we all know, Astbury to the Lions for pick 21, on traded to the Blues for Yaran, probably happen tomorrow.
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You bastards are giving me seizures, my eye is still twitching
I just turned my hearing aid off
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
We could do both. Seal the deal trade wise and then give them an envelope with F.O written inside along with our draft pick?!
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
Then you could bag the club some more for not recruiting anyone . Win win.
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
Then you could bag the club some more for not recruiting anyone . Win win.
I am doing that anyway
I would rather no bludger, than paying Carlton overs for said bludger - what about u?
I still lose sleep over McMahon
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
Then you could bag the club some more for not recruiting anyone . Win win.
I am doing that anyway
I would rather no bludger, than paying Carlton overs for said bludger - what about u?
I still lose sleep over McMahon
Tell him to roll over.. :snidegrin
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Skinny but Boney >:(
Hampson peees me off no end too while we are on it
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now:
* (As we already know) Astbury in Brisbane weighing up his future.
* If a trade is done then it'll likely be Astbury + pick 31 for pick 17.
* Pick 17 will then be on-traded for Yarran.
astbury for yarren doesn't sound too bad (assuming we somehow get a key defender, too)
#17 for yarren doesnt sound too good :P
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i must admit i dont watch astbury a lot but for me the most concerning is we will only have elton as cover for that machine chaplin.
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astbury for yarren doesn't sound too bad (assuming we somehow get a key defender, too)
#17 for yarren doesnt sound too good :P
I think that sums it up in a nutshell Bents.
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astbury for yarren doesn't sound too bad (assuming we somehow get a key defender, too)
#17 for yarren doesnt sound too good :P
I think that sums it up in a nutshell Bents.
If Brisbane gave us a steak knives offer (say their 3rd round pick or Aish :rollin) then deal done.
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Just watch Carlscum continue to demand our first round pick...
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While we do require his talent and pace
I'd rather tell Carlton to folk off
Then you could bag the club some more for not recruiting anyone . Win win.
I am doing that anyway
I would rather no bludger, than paying Carlton overs for said bludger - what about u?
I still lose sleep over McMahon
Hmm Yarran or McMahon, god help me i lean towards the latter.One thing that concerns the end result will likely be the same
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Paul Connors on Yarran deal: It’s a Melbourne Cup race and we’re at about 1200m mark right now.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Paul Connors on Yarran deal: It’s a Melbourne Cup race and we’re at about 1200m mark right now.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
I think I read that 2 days ago ?
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Paul Connors on Yarran deal: It’s a Melbourne Cup race and we’re at about 1200m mark right now.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
I think I read that 2 days ago ?
Give the guy a break. He only has one eye to keep up with everything. ;D
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Paul Connors on Yarran deal: It’s a Melbourne Cup race and we’re at about 1200m mark right now.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
I think I read that 2 days ago ?
Give the guy a break. He only has one eye to keep up with everything. ;D
:snidegrin
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Is this still going on, woulda told kaarlton to GAGF by now in my book!
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It seems we'll have to find another way to get an early second round pick with the option of trading Astbury looking less likely.
A swap of picks with a northern club, that needs draft pick points to access their academy kids, seems one of the few options left to us?
Eg: Brisbane's pick 21 (878 pts ) for our picks 31 (606) & 49 (287) = 893 pts.
Then on-trade pick 21 to Carlton for Yarran.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/biddingsystemfeedback.pdf
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Good in actually happy about that. Let's see if they any balls now to trade out a Conca type.
They are that stupid down there they will probably try now swap the bean or something to land their nig fish in Yazz
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I hope Astbury stays, I still think we will see him become a permanent part of the side as Chaplin gets more and more.....um.....not needed next year.
I can remember Astbury before the injury, gee he was very very good. If he can remain injury free our backline could be one of the strongest, provided he regains his form.
I am sure we can all remember the struggles Grimes went through and many did not think he could come back, he has regained form and he was one of the 3 best in the final loss.
KEEP ASTBURY!!!!
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Id like to keep astbury too actually
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I hope Astbury stays, I still think we will see him become a permanent part of the side as Chaplin gets more and more.....um.....not needed next year.
I can remember Astbury before the injury, gee he was very very good. If he can remain injury free our backline could be one of the strongest, provided he regains his form.
I am sure we can all remember the struggles Grimes went through and many did not think he could come back, he has regained form and he was one of the 3 best in the final loss.
KEEP ASTBURY!!!!
I agree with you entirely. Injury free I am confident Astbury could be a good player for us. He is a good mark, can play forward if needed and is usually good with disposal.
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Good in actually happy about that. Let's see if they any balls now to trade out a Conca type.
They are that stupid down there they will probably try now swap the bean or something to land their nig fish in Yazz
I can't see it being Conca, AH. Even if the Club wanted to and Conca was willing to be traded, then it would only be back to WA but both WA clubs have little to offer pick-wise now. West Coast's earliest pick is 36 after trading their first rounder for Redden, whereas Freo has 22 but they need more higher picks, not less, to try and get Cam McCarthy off GWS. Freo's needs are also KPPs with McPharlin and possible Pav retiring rather than another mid.
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Good in actually happy about that. Let's see if they any balls now to trade out a Conca type.
They are that stupid down there they will probably try now swap the bean or something to land their nig fish in Yazz
Racist...
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Can't you just ask the AFL step in and mediate if both parties can't agree to a deal?
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Good in actually happy about that. Let's see if they any balls now to trade out a Conca type.
They are that stupid down there they will probably try now swap the bean or something to land their nig fish in Yazz
I can't see it being Conca, AH. Even if the Club wanted to and Conca was willing to be traded, then it would only be back to WA but both WA clubs have little to offer pick-wise now. West Coast's earliest pick is 36 after trading their first rounder for Redden, whereas Freo has 22 but they need more higher picks, not less, to try and get Cam McCarthy off GWS. Freo's needs are also KPPs with McPharlin and possible Pav retiring rather than another mid.
I'd love to see the pudgy little Fukka running around for caaaaaarlt'n.
:snidegrin
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nig fish in Yaz
:clapping
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Good in actually happy about that. Let's see if they any balls now to trade out a Conca type.
They are that stupid down there they will probably try now swap the bean or something to land their nig fish in Yazz
Racist...
hahaha
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I hope Astbury stays, I still think we will see him become a permanent part of the side as Chaplin gets more and more.....um.....not needed next year.
I can remember Astbury before the injury, gee he was very very good. If he can remain injury free our backline could be one of the strongest, provided he regains his form.
I am sure we can all remember the struggles Grimes went through and many did not think he could come back, he has regained form and he was one of the 3 best in the final loss.
KEEP ASTBURY!!!!
I feel like I am in the twilight zone.
You compain non stop about the trading period .
Now you want to keep a player who is the very definition of expendable.
Astbury is the type of bloke if you got anything under pick 50 for him you would be in front .
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Snip! Leave out the baiting, ppl.
Now, back to the topic.
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mitch @TexasPinkSock - is yarran still going to go to richmond? Seems a deal is not any closer to happening with the rumour Brisbane went cold on
@BrettAndersonIF - It'll still happen.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Richmond was also unable to progress in its search for a draft pick that would land Carlton's Chris Yarran over the weekend.
The Tigers hit a roadblock when the Brisbane Lions reportedly cooled on defender David Astbury, who held the key to Richmond landing one of the Lions' selections within their target range (No.17 and No.21).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/trade-wrap-dockers-wont-trade-players-to-land-mccarthy
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Richmond, meanwhile, has been forced to recommence its task of finding a deal to secure Chris Yarran from Carlton after the move of David Astbury to the Lions as part of a three-way trade fell over when the Lions cooled on him.
Richmond does not want to trade pick 12 for Yarran but the Blues want at least a late first-round draft pick for the running player.
Under the Astbury arrangement Richmond would have landed Yarran by trading down from pick 31 to an earlier pick to satisfy Carlton. The Tigers must now either trade another player or more likely trade a future draft pick or trade their pick 12 for later selections, using one pick for Yarran and keep a pick.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period--gold-coasts-charlie-dixon-tied-into-jake-carlisle-trade-talks-20151018-gkc1u6#ixzz3ou74F8tZ
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mitch @TexasPinkSock - is yarran still going to go to richmond? Seems a deal is not any closer to happening with the rumour Brisbane went cold on
@BrettAndersonIF - It'll still happen.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Interesting to see how we're gunna get it through without the Astbury picks. How do people feel about 2nd rounder this year and next year for Yarran? I'd be happy with that. Enough for Carlton?
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mitch @TexasPinkSock - is yarran still going to go to richmond? Seems a deal is not any closer to happening with the rumour Brisbane went cold on
@BrettAndersonIF - It'll still happen.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Interesting to see how we're gunna get it through without the Astbury picks. How do people feel about 2nd rounder this year and next year for Yarran? I'd be happy with that. Enough for Carlton?
I hope we don't trade future picks. Next year's draft isn't as weak as this year's. Having said that, I don't see Carlton accepting pick 31 + our 2016 2nd rounder (30+?) even though it's more than fair based on Yarran's 2015 'form'. Both clubs seem to publicly agree Yarran is worth a high teen/early 20s pick.
I think we'll have to wait until Thursday before any deal can be done on Yarran. We'll need to see what picks everyone still has after all the main trades are completed. Once we know that then there's the option of swapping picks based on the bidding points system they've introduced this offseason.
For example: We trade pick 31 (606) + pick 49 (278) = 884 pts and in return we receive a pick of similar points value. Brisbane, for instance, currently have pick 21 which is worth 878 pts. Get our hands on a pick like that (late teens/early 20s) and then we can pass it onto Carlton for Yarran.
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mitch @TexasPinkSock - is yarran still going to go to richmond? Seems a deal is not any closer to happening with the rumour Brisbane went cold on
@BrettAndersonIF - It'll still happen.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Interesting to see how we're gunna get it through without the Astbury picks. How do people feel about 2nd rounder this year and next year for Yarran? I'd be happy with that. Enough for Carlton?
yeah picks after 20 are arse. give em two if thats what it takes, but i think silvagni knows they are arse
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mitch @TexasPinkSock - is yarran still going to go to richmond? Seems a deal is not any closer to happening with the rumour Brisbane went cold on
@BrettAndersonIF - It'll still happen.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Interesting to see how we're gunna get it through without the Astbury picks. How do people feel about 2nd rounder this year and next year for Yarran? I'd be happy with that. Enough for Carlton?
yeah picks after 20 are arse. give em two if thats what it takes, but i think silvagni knows they are arse
Yarran is Arse, the'd be getting two Arse's for the price of one. Good deal imo
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Any indication why the Lions "cooled" on Astbury? Was it his attitude because he didn't want to go or a medical result perhaps?
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Maybe it's due to Josh walker being courted by the Lions?
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more like maybe they realized what so many here dont...HE IS CRAP
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Any indication why the Lions "cooled" on Astbury? Was it his attitude because he didn't want to go or a medical result perhaps?
I heard he didn't show up for the morning medical after a big night on the town :whistle
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Any indication why the Lions "cooled" on Astbury? Was it his attitude because he didn't want to go or a medical result perhaps?
I heard he didn't show up for the morning medical after a big night on the town :whistle
:snidegrin
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I think the RFC need to come out and just start saying that the Blues want too much for this deal, we are not giving up a round one pick, the Blues would not play Yarran for the better part of the year and they have had little to no respect for the player. Now they are demanding a round one pick, we have offered tem a fair second round pick, based on Yarrans form and worth at the Blues and they are being difficult. I would then go on to say if the CFC do not accept our offer we will walk away from the trade.
Put some media pressure on the CFC, because it cannot break in the favour of them.
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Can't wait for next year's trade week....our war chest is gonna be huuuuuge! :gotigers
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I got feeling we might give pick 12 for Yarran and 21 blues got from lions for Bell will come to us for our pick 12 .I wont be happy with at that and that will be crap deal for us.Club needs to move on from Yarran if it doesn't suit simple ,but have been stuck on him all trade period we already got burned over the Hampson deal in 2013.
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Question to all site members - What's the chance we absolutely fold under pressure on the last day and give up pick 12 to Carlton for Yarran?
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To the ^ question
Pretty good now
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Question to all site members - What's the chance we absolutely fold under pressure on the last day and give up pick 12 to Carlton for Yarran?
very high
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Question to all site members - What's the chance we absolutely fold under pressure on the last day and give up pick 12 to Carlton for Yarran?
Maybe ;D
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Could it be we don't go ahead with the trade and leave Carlton high and dry, alternatively pick 21 for pick 12 and Yarran
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why not just walk away and tell carlton to flip off
its yarren not Geez
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Callum Ah Chee > Yarren
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Question to all site members - What's the chance we absolutely fold under pressure on the last day and give up pick 12 to Carlton for Yarran?
I believe it's a big chance
My question is, what player can we pickup with pick 12?
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Someone better than conca
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very high
x 2
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To the ^ question
Pretty good now
its was pretty good two months ago, too :whistle
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RFC can't win this one. Get Yarran and they'll cop it. Don't get him they'll cop it.
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...and rightly so....a mess of their own making...
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RFC can't win this one. Get Yarran and they'll cop it. Don't get him they'll cop it.
rightly so tbh
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Question to all site members - What's the chance we absolutely fold under pressure on the last day and give up pick 12 to Carlton for Yarran?
BETTER NOT YOU FOOLS! :banghead :banghead :banghead
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If they somehow manage a first round pick even if it's not 12, they won't cop it at all.
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To the ^ question
Pretty good now
its was pretty good two months ago, too :whistle
Nope 2 months ago they thought they had Treloar ;)
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you could see us paying overs for yarren a looong time ago
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@ljonseym - Tigers doing anything other than Yarran? That might take till Thursday.
@TomBrowne7 - Carlton sticking tonight to first round pick for Yarran. Richmond under pressure to do some type of deal.
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/with_replies
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...and rightly so....a mess of their own making...
How's that , we didn't finish low enough to give them an early r2 pick , :lol
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Time to walk away from this Yarren deal. Not worth pick 12 move on Blair and Dan.
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...and rightly so....a mess of their own making...
How's that , we didn't finish low enough to give them an early r2 pick , :lol
you could of traded out something
that would of taken courage
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Someone better than conca
Yet Conca has probably done more than Yarran. Why do people rate him so highly.
The top 15 - 20 picks this year are well worth having.
Surely we are at a stage where we just admit there wont be a big fish, it isnt the end of the world we have hb options we just need to play blokes there. Lets just give up on Yarran and now attempt to trade into the top 15 or so picks.
This is exactly what Carlton are doing with the Yarran trade.They know like everyone knows there are some very good kids to be had with pick 12. this seems to be getting lost with all the crap surrounding Yarran. Lets go to the youth well again and be patient, lets get two top 20 picks and again address some long term needs having failed in the short term trade period..Lets trade conca for a long term need.
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Someone better than conca
Yet Conca has probably done more than Yarran. Why do people rate him so highly.
The top 15 - 20 picks this year are well worth having.
Surely we are at a stage where we just admit there wont be a big fish, it isnt the end of the world we have hb options we just need to play blokes there. Lets just give up on Yarran and now attempt to trade into the top 15 or so picks.
This is exactly what Carlton are doing with the Yarran trade. Lets go to the youth well again and be patient.
they did this two weeks ago
keep up
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Someone better than conca
Yet Conca has probably done more than Yarran. Why do people rate him so highly.
The top 15 - 20 picks this year are well worth having.
Surely we are at a stage where we just admit there wont be a big fish, it isnt the end of the world we have hb options we just need to play blokes there. Lets just give up on Yarran and now attempt to trade into the top 15 or so picks.
This is exactly what Carlton are doing with the Yarran trade. Lets go to the youth well again and be patient.
they did this two weeks ago
keep up
I dont live on the site like some, or read every thread. Excuse me for voicing an opinion. Who did this two weeks ago? point me to the thread and i will take it there.
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Time to walk away from this Yarren deal. Not worth pick 12 move on Blair and Dan.
Couldn't agree more
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Someone better than conca
Yet Conca has probably done more than Yarran. Why do people rate him so highly.
The top 15 - 20 picks this year are well worth having.
Surely we are at a stage where we just admit there wont be a big fish, it isnt the end of the world we have hb options we just need to play blokes there. Lets just give up on Yarran and now attempt to trade into the top 15 or so picks.
This is exactly what Carlton are doing with the Yarran trade. Lets go to the youth well again and be patient.
they did this two weeks ago
keep up
I dont live on the site like some, or read every thread. Excuse me for voicing an opinion. Who did this two weeks ago? point me to the thread and i will take it there.
Hire a secretary
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Menadue, Corey Ellis, Lennon, would play a better role for many seasons.
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Richmond could be forced to part with a future first round-pick to secure Carlton playmaker Chris Yarran.
A proposed three-way trade involving the Tigers, which would have sent Gold Coast forward Charlie Dixon to Port Adelaide, is now unlikely to proceed.
The Blues are demanding a first-round pick for Yarran but Richmond is refusing to surrender selection 12 in this year’s draft.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-magpies-secure-jeremy-howe-in-four-club-deal/story-fnj3twbb-1227574722859
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:surrender
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Walk away ffs
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:surrender
they should but they won't
Have thrown every egg they have in this basket
Seems they think this deal will somehow equate to their big fish and will placate members & supporters ::)
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Here comes the big gutless fold under pressure.
Carlton know it will happen too and will laugh all the way to the draft
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:surrender
they should but they won't
Have thrown every egg they have in this basket
Seems they think this deal will somehow equate to their big fish and will placate members & supporters ::)
Not here
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If they trade next years 1st rounder for Yarran those dump flogs Dan and Blair should be tied to a Punt Rd goal post while the supporters hurl whatever we like at them
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Would rather walk away from Yarran. Simply not worth a first round pick.
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great call not worth a first rounder and never would be his been in the system for 7 years come on this will show how good Richmond are at the trade table
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Agree not worth a first pick. Back out.
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Here comes the big gutless fold under pressure.
Off-field mirroring on-field it seems. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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If they trade next years 1st rounder for Yarran those dump flogs Dan and Blair should be tied to a Punt Rd goal post while the supporters hurl whatever we like at them
More risk involved with that than using pick 12. According to some we probably won't even make finals so it could turn out to be a sub 10 pick
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If they trade next years 1st rounder for Yarran those dump flogs Dan and Blair should be tied to a Punt Rd goal post while the supporters hurl whatever we like at them
More risk involved with that than using pick 12. According to some we probably won't even make finals so it could turn out to be a sub 10 pick
Exactly. Imagine if we finished bottom 4 and didn't have that early pick?!
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Back out Richmond!
Cut your losses and don't draft Yarran with a first rounder.
FFS :banghead
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KB's Take: Yarran not worth pick twelve
Kevin Bartlett
SEN
20 Oct 2015
Richmond are still to land a big fish in this trade period.
Fans got excited over Adam Treloar, Harley Bennell and Hamish Hartlett when all have been mentioned in Richmond trade talks.
None have been landed by the club that is desperate for finals success.
Those clubs outside of the top eight, like Collingwood and Geelong, have and will be big players in this year’s trade period.
The Tigers are still hunting Chris Yarran from Carlton.
Yarran went pick six in the 2008 draft, and keeps his best games to when he plays against Richmond.
No doubt he has natural talent, but he lacks consistency and effort at times, which gives the impression he has lost interest in the contest.
The Blues know the Tigers are desperate for some fresh talent, and want pick 12.
Names like Gavin Wanganeen, Chris Scott, Nathan Jones, Shaun Burgoyne and Cyril Rioli have all gone at that pick.
The big question is: "is Yarran worth pick 12?"
For me he’s not. This is going to test the Tigers nerve.
Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/kbs-take-yarran-not-worth-pick-twelve#cZ5uVJ50Q3ldXxMD.99
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Yarran isn't worth poo.
Lmao RFC. You've done it again!!!
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Surely there'll be no more doubt we're a useless club run by idiots if this happens.
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Can we get in on the Menzel-Kerridge trade? Currently claimed to be Menzel for Kerridge + Crows pick 28. Also talk of the Crows may have to use pick 13 and then get a later pick back from the Blues.
Carlton: lose Menzel & Yarran; gain pick 13 & Kerridge.
Adelaide: lose pick 13 & Kerridge; gain Menzel & pick 31.
Richmond: lose pick 31; gain Yarran.
We'd probably have to throw something else in.
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Or someone
Ashbury or Dea
What about Morris?
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Let any future aspirations of success fly with the wind.
It's what the club does.
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Or someone
Ashbury or Dea
What about Morris?
Do any of them want to go to Carlton? :-\
ps. any deal involving Dea = jump at it.
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Can we get in on the Menzel-Kerridge trade? Currently claimed to be Menzel for Kerridge + Crows pick 28. Also talk of the Crows may have to use pick 13 and then get a later pick back from the Blues.
Carlton: lose Menzel & Yarran; gain pick 13 & Kerridge.
Adelaide: lose pick 13 & Kerridge; gain Menzel & pick 31.
Richmond: lose pick 31; gain Yarran.
We'd probably have to throw something else in.
i doubt we could get on a drunk obese irish backpacker :P
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Steveo suggesting on Twiiter that we are involved in the Dixon deal
As result we end up with pick 19 and May trade for Yarran
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Charlie Dixon deal done, with the help of Richmond .. Suns to get picks this year and next ..
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Believe Richmond secure pick 19 this year in Dixon future pick shuffle .. 19 for Yarran looming ?
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if we somehow scored 19, keep it and use it. Yarran is not worth a top 20 pick.
^^^
what he said
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@AFL_Nick: Upcoming Charlie Dixon deal should pave the way for Richmond to land Carlton speedster Chris Yarran with pick No.19 #TradePeriod
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Yarran is a black newman.
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So it's going to be pick 19 (we have gained from the Dixon deal) for Yarran.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRvGuYnUcAABfgT.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Kareeming_1
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What crap. stuff off Hartley, stuff off Richardson.
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Emma Quayle believes Carlton have knocked back pick 19 for Chris Yarran. HAHAHA
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Hahaha!!
Oh boy!
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Emma Quayle believes Carlton have knocked back pick 19 for Chris Yarran. HAHAHA
12 and 19
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Keep it
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Keep 12 and 19. Make Carlton sweat.
Do not cave in!
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Proof they're just being wankers.....tell 'em to stuff off.....
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I really hope we walk away from this stuffing deal altogether. Reminds me of the Windowlicker debacle last year for some reason.
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Emma Quayle believes Carlton have knocked back pick 19 for Chris Yarran. HAHAHA
Emma Quayle @emmasq · 31 minutes ago
Hearing Carlton's already knocking back 19 for Yarran. Surely they come around.
And so is Mick Warner (Tiger fan) from the HUN
mickwarner @heraldsunmick · 27 minutes ago
Blues not that keen on pick 19 for Yarran ...
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I'd be telling them it's pick 19 or nothing
And if we end up with Picks 12 & 19 is this draft then we've done a good deal ;D
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Emma Quayle believes Carlton have knocked back pick 19 for Chris Yarran. HAHAHA
Emma Quayle @emmasq · 31 minutes ago
Hearing Carlton's already knocking back 19 for Yarran. Surely they come around.
And so is Mick Warner (Tiger fan) from the HUN
mickwarner @heraldsunmick · 27 minutes ago
Blues not that keen on pick 19 for Yarran ...
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I'd be telling it's pick 19 or nothing
And if we end up with Picks 12 & 19 is this draft then we've done a good deal ;D
Exactly
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Question.
If we walk into the draft with 12 and 19 and no other trades being done except the one for Townsend. How would people feel?
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
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Question.
If we walk into the draft with 12 and 19 and no other trades being done except the one for Townsend. How would people feel?
Fine thanks. Feel better than if we gave 19 away for Yarran
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Question.
If we walk into the draft with 12 and 19 and no other trades being done except the one for Townsend. How would people feel?
I've already answered above "And if we end up with Picks 12 & 19 is this draft then we've done a good deal ;D"
So I'd be happy with it
Disappointed we didn't trade out but happy with those 2 picks in the Nat Draft
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It will happen in my opinion. Why would we trade for pick 19 and offer it for Yarran if we didn't have some sort of in principal agreement with Carlton beforehand
Unless we package it with 12 for a big fish :shh
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Richmond will almost certainly now seek to pass on pick No.19 to Carlton for Yarran, who is contracted for 2016 but keen for a fresh start.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-finally-completed-as-suns-star-dixon-heads-to-port
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Yarran is a black newman.
Newman is white yarran.
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From Twitter
Everyone has an opinion ;D
@al_superfooty: Chris Yarran polled fewer votes in the Carlton B&F than Simon White and Dennis Armfield. Pick 19 is more than fair. #getitdone
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Touche
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Yarran is a black newman.
Newman is white yarran.
That's true.
Funny how the first one would b classified as racist before the latter .....
Just sayin.
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One day, you are gonna get punched in the throat by a black bloke. It might be my brother. I am going to laugh and say, "Gee that might be classified as racism".
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Question.
If we walk into the draft with 12 and 19 and no other trades being done except the one for Townsend. How would people feel?
I've already answered above "And if we end up with Picks 12 & 19 is this draft then we've done a good deal ;D"
So I'd be happy with it
Disappointed we didn't trade out but happy with those 2 picks in the Nat Draft
I agree good result if end up with picks 12 and 19.. I am worried about a player whose best game is always against us and we seek to draft on that basis. It reminds me of the decision to pick up Neeld.
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Trade Wrap: Tigers no closer to Yarran
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
October 20, 2015 6:05 PM
"RICHMOND appears no closer to securing Chris Yarran despite securing a late first-round pick in the three-way trade that sent Charlie Dixon from Gold Coast to Port Adelaide on Tuesday.
As part of the Dixon deal, Richmond received pick No.19 from Gold Coast in exchange for its second-round picks this year (No.31) and next.
The Tigers had hoped pick No.19 would be a satisfactory swap for Yarran, but AFL.com.au understands the Blues quickly knocked back that proposal.
Carlton's initial asking price for Yarran was Richmond's first-round pick, No.12 overall, and, as of Tuesday night, it was yet to back down from that demand.
Despite the impasse, Yarran, who is contracted at Carlton for 2016, has not wavered in his desire to get to Punt Road.
Some rival clubs had suspected Hawthorn could make a last-minute play for Yarran with the pick No.15 it acquired from North Melbourne in the Jed Anderson trade, but it's understood Yarran won't be open to a late approach from another club.
Richmond has until 2pm on Thursday to reach an agreement with Carlton.
The Blues could bend before that deadline given they are understood to have agreed with Yarran that it's in both of their best interests that he be released from the final year of his existing contract.
Carlton's bargaining position could be further weakened by the fact Richmond remains Yarran's only genuine suitor."
From AFL website.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-wrap-tigers-no-closer-to-yarran
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Why is it up to us to reach a deal by 2pm?
Why not the other way around?
Nick Bowen the carlton journo....do not want
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Trade Wrap: Tigers no closer to Yarran
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
October 20, 2015 6:05 PM
"RICHMOND appears no closer to securing Chris Yarran despite securing a late first-round pick in the three-way trade that sent Charlie Dixon from Gold Coast to Port Adelaide on Tuesday.
As part of the Dixon deal, Richmond received pick No.19 from Gold Coast in exchange for its second-round picks this year (No.31) and next.
The Tigers had hoped pick No.19 would be a satisfactory swap for Yarran, but AFL.com.au understands the Blues quickly knocked back that proposal.
Carlton's initial asking price for Yarran was Richmond's first-round pick, No.12 overall, and, as of Tuesday night, it was yet to back down from that demand.
Despite the impasse, Yarran, who is contracted at Carlton for 2016, has not wavered in his desire to get to Punt Road.
Some rival clubs had suspected Hawthorn could make a last-minute play for Yarran with the pick No.15 it acquired from North Melbourne in the Jed Anderson trade, but it's understood Yarran won't be open to a late approach from another club.
Richmond has until 2pm on Thursday to reach an agreement with Carlton.
The Blues could bend before that deadline given they are understood to have agreed with Yarran that it's in both of their best interests that he be released from the final year of his existing contract.
Carlton's bargaining position could be further weakened by the fact Richmond remains Yarran's only genuine suitor."
From AFL website.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-wrap-tigers-no-closer-to-yarran
you don't knock back a player with his ability that has such a desire to play for the yellow and black.....
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 also reporting that Carlton is still demanding pick 12 because pick 19 isn't a first rounder (it's one out but technically was an end of first round compo pick for the Suns) ::).
Tell the Blues we've been more than fair offering pick 19 and if they don't accept it then stuff them! We'll get Yarran for nothing this time next year while picking up two kids inside the top 20 in the National Draft. Carlton would be lucky to get a 3rd round compo pick under Free Agency.
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Take it to the draft tigs. Get Yaz for free next year. stuff em
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 also reporting that Carlton is still demanding pick 12 because pick 19 isn't a first rounder (it's one out but technically was an end of first round compo pick for the Suns) ::).
Tell the Blues we've been more than fair offering pick 19 and if they don't accept it then stuff them! We'll get Yarran for nothing this time next year while picking up two kids inside the top 20 in the National Draft. Carlton would be lucky to get a 3rd round compo pick under Free Agency.
I agree MT, blues can GF. I have no confidence in tigers though, if they don't offer pick 12 then they'll give up 19 and something else.
Look, fair enough we had a crack at Hanneberry, Treloar, Hartlett and Bennell they are trying but coming out and declaring how important Yarran is for our needs is amateur hour at best.
Best thing is to walk away from this deal now.
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Tell em to jam it. If the Hawks are so stupid to give up 15 half their stuffing luck. My bet it is utter bs
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Yep, time to say, its pick 31 or see ya....will ruin Yarrans career if he doesn't come to us so I hope the Blues will be proud of themselves. Pity the Eagles didn't do the same years ago with Judd...
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
Pick 19 very good kid? You sure about that as I'm
not with our record
Seriously though we must be so stuffin stupid or they have done a backflip to go through all that to get 19 which is effectively for nothing now.
Pick 19 in this draft is prob the same as 30 odd next year
Yes this bloke is soft but stuff it now we will just screw that pick up anyhow so offer dea and 19. That should do the trick if they want or 19 and grigg
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Drag their sorry arses into arbitration tomorrow. It will only damage SOS, their club and their brand even further. Expect plenty of twilight games on a Sunday as a result for them next year.
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
Pick 19 very good kid? You sure about that as I'm
not with our record
Seriously though we must be so stuffin stupid or they have done a backflip to go through all that to get 19 which is effectively for nothing now.
Pick 19 in this draft is prob the same as 30 odd next year
Yes this bloke is soft but stuff it now we will just screw pick up anyhow so offer dea and 19. That should do the trick if they want or 19 and grigg
Fyfe went at pick 20
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Tell em to jam it. If the Hawks are so stupid to give up 15 half their stuffing luck. My bet it is utter bs
It's the Hawks mate and they have never been afraid to throw picks away if they turn something into a quality player
It's not bs if you ask me but he is only interested in coming to us
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
Pick 19 very good kid? You sure about that as I'm
not with our record
Seriously though we must be so stuffin stupid or they have done a backflip to go through all that to get 19 which is effectively for nothing now.
Pick 19 in this draft is prob the same as 30 odd next year
Yes this bloke is soft but stuff it now we will just screw pick up anyhow so offer dea and 19. That should do the trick if they want or 19 and grigg
Fyfe went at pick 20
Hey Al, do you want to take this one? ::) ::)
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Yep, time to say, its pick 31 or see ya....will ruin Yarrans career if he doesn't come to us so I hope the Blues will be proud of themselves. Pity the Eagles didn't do the same years ago with Judd...
We no longer have pick 31 WAT traded it today to get pick 19
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I'm hearing Carlton said no to 19? I wouldn't even offer them that, stuff them up them Rs
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Did they get a ruckman yet ?
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One thing to remember, this guys actually wants to come and play for the Tigers. Nobody else has so I'm really happy to hopefully be getting him. Also remember it's Carlton acting like cork heads not Yarran.
I think Carlton will see the light and take our offer of pick 19, which is pretty fair considering the year he and their club have had.
If we can achieve that and select a good kid at 12, we will have done well.
Yarran is better than most are willing to concede IMO. And best of he fills a need, he is quick, skillful and good goal sense. Play him forward!!
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19 seems way overs for a guy who can't get a game
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19 seems way overs for a guy who can't get a game
We wanted pick 17 for Astbury and some thought that was about right. :lol
Yarran is an out and out star compared to our injured dud.
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i think everyone knows it will get done for 19...
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One thing to remember, this guys actually wants to come and play for the Tigers. Nobody else has so I'm really happy to hopefully be getting him. Also remember it's Carlton acting like cork heads not Yarran.
I think Carlton will see the light and take our offer of pick 19, which is pretty fair considering the year he and their club have had.
If we can achieve that and select a good kid at 12, we will have done well.
Yarran is better than most are willing to concede IMO. And best of he fills a need, he is quick, skillful and good goal sense. Play him forward!!
The way to force their hand is to go after Tomlinson and Plowman with these picks (12 & 19) and tell them they'll get Yarran next year as a FA. This will see them fold like a pack of cards, guaranteed. They will then look like they will lose two targets and keep a guy who doesn't want to play with them. :thumbsup
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I agree good result if end up with picks 12 and 19.. I am worried about a player whose best game is always against us and we seek to draft on that basis. It reminds me of the decision to pick up Neeld.
Or Pitura
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yellowblackblood, here's where your plan fails; those players don't want to come to Richmond
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yellowblackblood, here's where your plan fails; those players don't want to come to Richmond
:shh
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yellowblackblood, here's where your plan fails; those players don't want to come to Richmond
At this point they don't, but they could be convinced and our picks are better than Carltons. GWS would much prefer to deal with us. Tomlinson is still contracted so he doesn't have the same power. Plus, it's called bluffing Petey.
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yellowblackblood, here's where your plan fails; those players don't want to come to Richmond
At this point they don't, but they could be convinced and our picks are better than Carltons. GWS would much prefer to deal with us. Tomlinson is still contracted so he doesn't have the same power. Plus, it's called bluffing Petey.
I'm not sure if we have anything that GWS wants, they have pick 8, maybe they'd swap their picks 8,27 for our 12,19 and we can reduce our offer for Yarran that way.
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One thing to remember, this guys actually wants to come and play for the Tigers. Nobody else has so I'm really happy to hopefully be getting him. Also remember it's Carlton acting like cork heads not Yarran.
I think Carlton will see the light and take our offer of pick 19, which is pretty fair considering the year he and their club have had.
If we can achieve that and select a good kid at 12, we will have done well.
Yarran is better than most are willing to concede IMO. And best of he fills a need, he is quick, skillful and good goal sense. Play him forward!!
Fair call
My view is if we get him for 19 that's a good deal
If Carlton refuse to deal happy to go to the draft with picks 12 & 19
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
We already have 19 from earlier trade
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Any truth to what i was told today and we should stay right away from Yarran, even if we got him for nothing!!!!
I really hope RFC are looking deeply into this bloke and any baggage he may be carrying
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I wouldn't stay away from any decent footy player for nothing. Free is free man
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100 pages of mostly absolute crap.
:thumbsdown
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
All part of the Dixon trade to port Adelaide
22. Gold Coast's Charlie Dixon traded to Port Adelaide.
Port receives Dixon and pick No.49 and gives up pick No.10 and its 2016 second-round pick.
Gold Coast receives picks No.10 and 31 and two 2016 second-round picks and gives up Dixon and picks No.19 and 49.
Richmond receives pick No.19 and gives up pick No.31 and its 2016 second-round pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-finally-completed-as-suns-star-dixon-heads-to-port
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
You've either been sleeping or or been smoking somthing all day!!
Get with it man....
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
Pick 19 very good kid? You sure about that as I'm
not with our record
Seriously though we must be so stuffin stupid or they have done a backflip to go through all that to get 19 which is effectively for nothing now.
Pick 19 in this draft is prob the same as 30 odd next year
Yes this bloke is soft but stuff it now we will just screw pick up anyhow so offer dea and 19. That should do the trick if they want or 19 and grigg
Fyfe went at pick 20
Hey Al, do you want to take this one? ::) ::)
nah, you cant change that mentality
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
Pick 19 very good kid? You sure about that as I'm
not with our record
Seriously though we must be so stuffin stupid or they have done a backflip to go through all that to get 19 which is effectively for nothing now.
Pick 19 in this draft is prob the same as 30 odd next year
Yes this bloke is soft but stuff it now we will just screw pick up anyhow so offer dea and 19. That should do the trick if they want or 19 and grigg
Fyfe went at pick 20
i get that but over the years anything after 15 we have pretty well screwed up except for rance. Some on here consider ellis a dud which i dont
change recruiter and im all for going to the draft with 19 in the pocket.
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
You've either been sleeping or or been smoking somthing all day!!
Get with it man....
Thanks WP....Gee what a merry go round.
:snidegrin :snidegrin Been travelling all day and this poo is dragging out so much its doing my head in...
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I hate wading through rubbish
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I hate wading through rubbish
Agree.
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
You've either been sleeping or or been smoking somthing all day!!
Get with it man....
Thanks WP....Gee what a merry go round.
:snidegrin :snidegrin Been travelling all day and this poo is dragging out so much its doing my head in...
I'm letting you off with a warning then........just this time ;D
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT RICHMOND SHOULD DO NOW! GET LOST CARLTON, WE'LL KEEP OUR PICKS!
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Sorry but where is 19 coming from??
You've either been sleeping or or been smoking somthing all day!!
Get with it man....
Thanks WP....Gee what a merry go round.
:snidegrin :snidegrin Been travelling all day and this poo is dragging out so much its doing my head in...
I'm letting you off with a warning then........just this time ;D
:thumbsup
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I'm quite excited about Yarran coming across . I think he can fill the void made by the departure of Matty White a couple a years ago.
But Carlton can get stuffed - pick 19 or tell your story walking.
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The whole scenario has now become laughable. Yarran has stated publicly he wants to leave and go to Richmond, Carlton and him agree its best if he leaves, we work to arrange a very reasonable trade, if anything its exactly halfway between our offer and theirs. We're the ones in the stronger position imo. They'll buckle, or we get pick 19, which Im more than happy with.
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Stubborn Blues reject pick 19 for Yarran
Herald-Sun
October 21, 2015
CARLTON has rejected Richmond’s offer of pick 19 for Chris Yarran as frustrations over a deal for the Blues playmaker reached boiling point.
Despite snaring the late first-round pick in a three-club trade involving Gold Coast and Port Adelaide, the Tigers were told it was not enough to satisfy the Blues.
A Carlton official told the Herald Sun on Tuesday night: “Richmond have still got pick 12 and that’s what we want”.
Yarran is growing increasingly frustrated by Carlton’s stubbornness and has not ruled out sitting out season 2016.
“It’s a possible option,” a source close to the standoff said.
Yarran, 24, is contracted for next season and has no intention of wearing the navy blue jumper again.
He has not been contacted by any Carlton official throughout the trade period, which expires at 2pm on Thursday.
Carlton is adamant Yarran is worth a first-round pick and technically Richmond’s selection falls outside the first round.
It is likely to become pick 24 once academy selections are fed into the draft order under a new AFL bidding system.
A rival club boss on Tuesday night said Carlton, under new list and recruiting boss Stephen Silvagni, had drawn level with Essendon as footy’s most difficult negotiators.
It emerged Carlton would also have rejected pick 17, which the Tigers attempted to secure from Brisbane in a trade involving defender David Astbury.
The three-club deal involving pick 19 lodged on Tuesday granted Suns forward Charlie Dixon his wish of joining Port Adelaide.
The Power also gets pick 49 in this year’s draft from the Suns.
Gold Coast gets pick 10 from Port plus pick 31 from the Tigers and two second-round picks in next year’s draft — one from the Power and the other from Richmond.
Richmond effectively gives away two second-round selections for one first-round pick — selection 19, which it had believed would appease Carlton’s demands for Yarran.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-carlton-reject-richmonds-offer-of-pick-19-for-chris-yarran/story-fnp04d70-1227576119524
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They ask for pick 12, we offer 31 and understandably not enough. So we go half way and offer 19 and it still isn't enough. Either bring AFL mediation into it or we go to the draft with both picks. That's Carlton's problem if he has to stay and walks for a pick 40 compo under FA next season.
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If that is true I would pull the offer off the table.
Hey Carlton cheats guess what:
"we'll keep pick 19 and 12 and draft 2 very good kids thanks and you can keep Yarran warm for a year for us until we take him for free next year"
:wavetowel :razz :highfive
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT RICHMOND SHOULD DO NOW! GET LOST CARLTON, WE'LL KEEP OUR PICKS!
Seems to be obvious one Would think
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A Carlton official told the Herald Sun on Tuesday night: “Richmond have still got pick 12 and that’s what we want”.
Who was this Carlton official? Andy Maher :lol. Geez, he was a joke this morning on SEN squealing that "Richmond as a finals contender desperately needs Yarran and need to trade pick 12" and "pick 19 isn't a first round pick" :facepalm. Good on the Tiger caller who rang in and told Maher pick 19 is a first round compo pick.
Yarran is growing increasingly frustrated by Carlton’s stubbornness and has not ruled out sitting out season 2016.
“It’s a possible option,” a source close to the standoff said.
Better yet if Carlton are going to be unreasonable, Yarran should just retire to get his contract ripped up. Then on the last day for PSD nominations, do a Mal Michael and say he's rediscovered his passion for footy ;).
A rival club boss on Tuesday night said Carlton, under new list and recruiting boss Stephen Silvagni, had drawn level with Essendon as footy’s most difficult negotiators.
It emerged Carlton would also have rejected pick 17, which the Tigers attempted to secure from Brisbane in a trade involving defender David Astbury.
Just proves Carlton say one thing and then are moving the goalposts. It's pick 19 or just walk away, Tiges.
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Spiteful idiots I reckon. They are peeed at Yarran and obviously hate us lol
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Spiteful stuffers I reckon. They are peeed at Yarran and obviously hate us lol
The feeling is mutual
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Spiteful stuffers I reckon. They are peeed at Yarran and obviously hate us lol
The feeling is mutual
LOL
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How dumb are Carlton
Keep an unhappy player for a year causing dissension within the club
or
get pick 19
I hate Carlton :thumbsdown always have, always will.
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Apparently he is serious about standing out of football for a year.
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Buddy went to the Swans for pick 20 wasn't it......
Carlton and a bunch of pricks. The RFC need to walk away now. the Blues will ruin Yarrans life with this, the AFL should step in now, before its too late.
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Carlton remains adamant it wants the Tigers' pick 12 for Yarran.
But The Age suggests the Blues might soften their hardline stance given it appears untenable for Yarran to fulfill the final year of his contract at Ikon Park.
It's believed the Blues and Yarran have not had direct contact at any stage of the trade period, and Carlton's free agency compensation for him next year wouldn't be as good as pick 19.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-winds-could-yarran-sit-out-2016
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Stick fat Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!
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Buddy went to the Swans for pick 20 wasn't it......
Not a fair comparison WAT (though I get your point) as Buddy went to the Swans as a Free Agent and the pick the Hawks got was a compo pick being a first round pick straight after their alloted 1st round in the draft.... all it highlighted was how stupid the FA compo system is.
That's why Adel & geelong working out a trade for Dangerfield because Adel was intending to match any FA offer was excellent by both parties
Apparently he is serious about standing out of football for a year.
I like Yarran's attitude here. Still not sold on him as a player but I give him kudos for his want to getting to our club. At least someone wants to come to the Tigers :thumbsup
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I think it could be a bold move if we removed our offer and made a statement that Carlton are too difficult to trade with, dont go near them. We'll get Yarran next year anyway, Id feel bad for letting him down, he wants to come to us and we should reward that, but his belligerent club stand in the way of a totally amicable trade for the sake of 7 spots in the draft.
Is a Corey Ellis or Ben Lennon worth it for Yarran? No, and thats what their asking for.
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Can he just refuse to play for Carlton in any capacity??
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Stick fat Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!
X 2 :clapping
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12.10pm: SOS IN THE HOUSE
Carlton list manager Stephen Silvagni has arrived at AFL House, along with player manager Paul Connors.
Connors manages Chris Yarran and Lachie Plowman.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
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1.20pm: YARRAN UPDATE
The man of the moment Stephen Silvagni says the Blues are "here to talk" in regards to breaking the deadlock on the Chris Yarran to Richmond deal.
While he hasn't spoken to Yarran himself, he doesn't expect the half back to be prepared to sit out a season if a deal doesn't get done before 2pm tomorrow.
He didn't rule out the Tigers' current pick No.19 plus a sweetener in getting the deal done and indicated a trade could still go through today.
However, we here at AFL.com.au believe it's unlikely a resolution will happen before tomorrow.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
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can you get a sweeter sweetener than Hampson?/
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Pick 19 for Yarran is more than enough. If they don't do the deal walk away & deal with someone else
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"We're due to speak to Richmond today." SOS says Yarran move to play out. Still wants first rounder.
https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch
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Blues have secured pick 8 from GWS and turned Troy Menzel into Sam Kerridge, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb and Andrew Phillips.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/656653587531956224
The Blues/GWS deal is done.
Blues get Pick 8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips and Sumner.
GWS get 28, 77, 95 and Cats 2016 F/R Pick
https://twitter.com/SENNews
:o
am i reading that right ...
:huh
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Yep that's spot on
So both they got a deal and a half and so did Adelaide getting Menzel for sweet FA
GWStook the hit bc they need picks for academy players
It's crazy stuff
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Carlton want a sweetener with pick 19? They can FO.
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Carlton want a sweetener with pick 19? They can FO.
give them grigg back.
win/win
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Carlton want a sweetener with pick 19? They can FO.
I agree. However there is one thing that nobody has spoke of much. Yarran has selected us, we have told him we want him and yet we dont seem to be prepared to sacrafice to make that happen. How would that make him feel? He is a player that needs his attitude to the club he plays for turned around, yet to him we dont seem to rate him that high (in his eyes maybe). What sort of attitude will that bring him to the club with.
I think you all know what I mean.
I personaly think pick 19 is fine , maybe even a bit overs even. But we need him to come to the Club with a "wow, they really want me here" attitude. Just something to think about when you evaluate a trade maybe.
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Blues won't budge on Yarran to Tigers deal
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
October 21, 2015 1:57 PM
CARLTON and Richmond are preparing to hold talks over Chris Yarran on Wednesday afternoon, with the Blues confident he wouldn't sit out of football for 12 months if a deal couldn't be done to send him to Punt Road.
There were suggestions on Wednesday that Yarran would not honour the last year of his contract if he were not traded to the Tigers, eventually moving to the club as a free agent ahead of the 2017 season.
Carlton list manager Steven Silvagni, who said he had not spoken to Yarran recently, said he hoped a deal could be done to fulfil the 24-year-old's request as soon as this afternoon.
However, the club was firm on its request for a first-round pick from Richmond, having knocked back the Tigers' offer of pick No.19 on Tuesday afternoon.
He said it needed to be understood that Yarran was contracted to Carlton for 2016 and "if we can't broker a deal then he's a required player … I wouldn't have thought he wouldn't play".
"We're due to talk with the Tigers at some stage today and we'll try and broker a deal with them," Silvagni said on Wednesday.
"We need to talk through it. We'd hope it could be done today, but we'll see what happens.
"I've always said we'd like a first round pick, so that's what it is. At the moment they hold pick No.12."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/blues-wont-budge-on-yarran-to-tigers-deal
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EVeryone should be sacked if we give up pick 12. Even the stud boot
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Spoken to Chris Yarran, he's still hoping to be a Tiger next year but has NO intention to sit out 2016 if a deal isn't done.
- Neroli Meadows, Fox Sports News.
https://twitter.com/Neroli_M_FOX
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The sweetener should be a firm GFY.
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EVeryone should be sacked if we give up pick 12. Even the stud boot
I don't see it happening at all. RFC know how valuable our first round picks have been in the last 10 years or so (post '04/'05 debacles). Guys like Reiwoldt, Rance, Ellis, Vlastuin and Lennon all have so much value. They just can't possibly expect us to fold. Especially when he can just walk to us next year for free, and the possibility of him sitting out next season is also looming. Pick 19 is smack bang in the middle ground of the asking/offered prices. I'd expect this is all some form of pathetic Carlton bravado, they'll fold, not us.
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don't blink Tiges
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He didn't rule out the Tigers' current pick No.19 plus a sweetener in getting the deal done and indicated a trade could still go through today.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
Grigg, Hampson are not sweetners
Now Tigers it's pretty simple, offer them Astbury (you've proven your happy to move him), Dea, Morris or Gordon, hell offer them 2 of those 4.. if they won't take that then walk away
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Would offer them Dea.
Astbury would require something else coming back our way IMO.
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Would offer them nothing but reproductive advice....
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Batchelor and 19 would get it done.
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Numbers don't add up on trading Chris Yarran
Liam Mannix
The Age
October 21, 2015 - 3:53PM
Carlton have a 10.8 per cent chance of drafting a player as good as Chris Yarran even if they manage to trade him for a first-round pick.
While the Blues and Tigers haggle over his value, the reality is this: Carlton are unlikely to be able to draft a player of Yarran's ability with a first-round pick. And if he is traded for a second-rounder, Carlton's chances of getting fair replacement value seem to be falling even further.
What is Chris Yarran worth?
Two measures available in evaluating an established player are games played and Brownlow Medal votes accrued.
Yarran is 24. He'll be 25 when next season starts. He's played 118 games in seven seasons with Carlton, only once playing 22 games or more. In that time he's accrued 10 Brownlow votes and kicked 90 goals.
If Yarran can maintain this consistency – and many would argue his career has been blighted with inconsistency – to 30, he will likely play at least another 100 games and earn at least another 10 Brownlow votes.
What is a draft pick worth?
If Yarran is worth 100 games and 10 Brownlow votes, what are the odds of drafting a player who can better that?
Extremely low.
Between 1994 and 2008, only 32.69 per cent of first-round draft picks played more than 100 games.
Games played is a decent marker of the success and value of an AFL player, but it has some flaws. First, AFL clubs have to give their players games.
At poor clubs, poor players will still play a high number of games.
A better marker is Brownlow votes. How good is Yarran's tally of 10 Brownlow votes from 118 games?
Between 1994 and 2008, 56.81 per cent of all players drafted did not accrue a Brownlow vote. Another 17.33 per cent got between one and five.
Of players drafted in the first round, 65.83 per cent earn fewer than 10 votes in their career. Of players drafted in the second round, that number rises to 76.26 per cent.
Chris Yarran: Worth more than you think
The odds of Carlton drafting a player of Yarran's calibre with a first-round pick is very low: a roughly 30 per cent chance of playing 100 games, a roughly 30 per cent chance of earning 10 Brownlow votes.
The probability of drafting a player with both those characteristics with a first-round pick? 10.8 per cent.
Why we overvalue draft picks
The AFL community has grown to place a high value on draft picks because they represent potential rather than realised talent.
Every first-round draft pick is a potential Chris Judd – which is true, but this ignores the chances of drafting him are exactly 0.36 per cent.
HOW DRAFTED PLAYERS FARE
0 games
1st round: 6.47%
2nd round: 15.62%
3rd round: 19.42%
51+ games
1st round: 71.92%
2nd round: 52.97%
3rd round: 44.54%
101+ games
1st round: 50.38%
2nd round: 30.94%
3rd round: 28.38%
151+ games
1st round: 37.39%
2nd round: 19.5%
3rd round: 13.97%
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-trade-period-2015-numbers-dont-add-up-on-trading-chris-yarran-20151013-gk7u0r.html
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As an argument, it's a crock of poo
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Silvagni On Chris Yarran:
"We've made it really clear to Richmond an end of first-round pick wouldn't get it done. They've got pick 12, I've spoken to Richmond this afternoon ... we're open to try and get this deal done. Hawthorn (with pick 15) asked about him some time ago, if he doesn't get to the Tigers he'll be playing with the Carlton Football Club."
.@barrettdamian: "Hawthorn have pick 15, have they asked about Yarran?" Silvagni: "Ahhhh, not recently."
Silvagni re Yarran: We spoke to Richmond this arvo and we're still working thru it. Our eyes are set on pick 12
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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As an argument, it's a crock of poo
agreed, total horsepoo. He had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find some sort of positive data lol All other stats say he was a stuffing failure all year in a failure of a club that has folded up and gone into a rebuild.... What sort of jedi mind trick is this idiot trying to pull on us?
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Silvagni On Chris Yarran:
"We've made it really clear to Richmond an end of first-round pick wouldn't get it done. They've got pick 12, I've spoken to Richmond this afternoon ... we're open to try and get this deal done. Hawthorn (with pick 15) asked about him some time ago, if he doesn't get to the Tigers he'll be playing with the Carlton Football Club."
.@barrettdamian: "Hawthorn have pick 15, have they asked about Yarran?" Silvagni: "Ahhhh, not recently."
Silvagni re Yarran: We spoke to Richmond this arvo and we're still working thru it. Our eyes are set on pick 12
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
https://twitter.com/traderadio
MY EYES ARE SET ON GO stuff YOURSELF BLUES, YOUR NOT NOT TOUCHING stuffing PICK 12 YOU stuffing CHEATING MAGGOT SCUM
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As an argument, it's a crock of poo
agreed, total horsepoo. He had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find some sort of positive data lol All other stats say he was a stuffing failure all year in a failure of a club that has folded up and gone into a rebuild.... What sort of jedi mind trick is this idiot trying to pull on us?
You're only as good as your last season.....or match....
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Liam Mannix wrote a terrible article, his facts are based on drafting from 20 years ago to 2008 when it was mainly hit and miss.
Why not pick stats from 2006 to 2013 but he probably knows that they will make a mess of his article so lets exclude them.
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If the RFC give that stuffing pick 12 up, I'm done with them. Seriously we will be laughed at more so than the Tambling fiasco.
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Won't happen
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If the RFC give that stuffing pick 12 up, I'm done with them. Seriously we will be laughed at more so than the Tambling fiasco.
You were done with them if they named Morris again. They proceeded to name him specifically to try and achieve the bigger picture goal of seeing you fire up.
Now you threaten it for the 17th time.
Goodbye pick 12
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Liam Mannix wrote a terrible article, his facts are based on drafting from 20 years ago to 2008 when it was mainly hit and miss.
Why not pick stats from 2006 to 2013 but he probably knows that they will make a mess of his article so lets exclude them.
well he actually went to 2008.
but why not use players stats from 2008?
well he used one benchmark of 100 games.
how many players drafted from 2008 would have reached 100 games?
the later you go, the worse the figures will be. it is impossible for kids drafted from 2012 and 2013 to have played 100 games.
to do so from 2011 would require them having played nearly every game since being drafted.
what he has done wrong is overrate Yarran.
and break down the groups into fluid size numbers. eg due to priority picks etc pick 20 could be first round one year and second round the next.
It is also too broad of a spread, particulrily for the sub 20 picks.
picks 1-10 go at about 60%
if you took a spread of say picks 10-14, you would get a better idea of the worth of pick 12, but as you approach 20 the success rate drops off a fair bit.
He is correct in that draft picks are overarted, i do think it is a long stretch to use the methodoly he has to gauge the worth of yarran.
anyone watching the game would see his last year has been crap. He has known flaws in his game, and suspected flaws in his persona. Stats dont tell you this.
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Blues won't budge on Yarran to Tigers deal
Nathan Schmook and Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
October 21, 2015 5:43 PM
CARLTON and Richmond are preparing to hold talks over Chris Yarran on Wednesday afternoon, with the Blues confident he wouldn't sit out of football for 12 months if a deal couldn't be done to send him to Punt Road.
There were suggestions on Wednesday that Yarran would not honour the last year of his contract if he were not traded to the Tigers, eventually moving to the club as a free agent ahead of the 2017 season.
Carlton list manager Stephen Silvagni, who said he had not spoken to Yarran recently, said he hoped a deal could be done to fulfil the 24-year-old's request as soon as this afternoon.
However, the club was firm on its request for a first-round pick from Richmond, having knocked back the Tigers' offer of pick No.19 on Tuesday afternoon.
He said it needed to be understood that Yarran was contracted to Carlton for 2016 and "if we can't broker a deal then he's a required player … I wouldn't have thought he wouldn't play".
Silvagni later told NAB AFL Trade Radio that the Blues would be open to a package deal including pick 19 for Yarran.
"Our eyes are set on pick 12 but we're open to suggestions. Having said that, Chris is a contracted player," he said.
"I've spoken to Richmond this afternoon and they're still working through a few things and hopefully we can come to a solution.
"I think we made it really clear to Richmond some time ago that an end of first round pick wouldn’t get it done and they were well aware of that."
Silvagni ruled out the possibility of Yarran joining Hawthorn for 2016.
"They had some interest in him some time ago but his eyes are set on joining the Tigers and if he doesn't join the Tigers I would suggest that he’d be playing with Carlton."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/blues-wont-budge-on-yarran-to-tigers-deal
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Liam Mannix wrote a terrible article, his facts are based on drafting from 20 years ago to 2008 when it was mainly hit and miss.
Why not pick stats from 2006 to 2013 but he probably knows that they will make a mess of his article so lets exclude them.
well he actually went to 2008.
but why not use players stats from 2008?
well he used one benchmark of 100 games.
how many players drafted from 2008 would have reached 100 games?
the later you go, the worse the figures will be. it is impossible for kids drafted from 2012 and 2013 to have played 100 games.
to do so from 2011 would require them having played nearly every game since being drafted.
what he has done wrong is overrate Yarran.
and break down the groups into fluid size numbers. eg due to priority picks etc pick 20 could be first round one year and second round the next.
It is also too broad of a spread, particulrily for the sub 20 picks.
picks 1-10 go at about 60%
if you took a spread of say picks 10-14, you would get a better idea of the worth of pick 12, but as you approach 20 the success rate drops off a fair bit.
He is correct in that draft picks are overarted, i do think it is a long stretch to use the methodoly he has to gauge the worth of yarran.
anyone watching the game would see his last year has been crap. He has known flaws in his game, and suspected flaws in his persona. Stats dont tell you this.
"anyone watching the game would see his last year has been crap. He has known flaws in his game, and suspected flaws in his persona. Stats dont tell you this."
and suspected flaws in his persona....must have or else why did he request a trade to RFC??
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I get the feeling we'll be going to the draft with 12 & 19. Cannot understand Carlton's logic on this one, a big whatever from me though. Id like Yarran at the tigers but happy with pick 19. ;)
Well played tigers for mine!
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Torch big boy, are the caps really necessary
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Torch big boy, are the caps really necessary
He's an Angry man, let him Vent....
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Ch 7 news
The Yarran deal will go right down to the wire.
Silvagni on SEN (from 5:00 min)
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/boos/3716528-stephen-silvagni-on-the-run-home
Mediation - Not too sure that will happen. Hopefully we don't need to get to that. We're in constant contact with Richmond. Hopefully a deal can be done otherwise we (Carlton) move on and Richmond move on.
Despite interest from other clubs, we (Carlton) haven't been able to involve other clubs as Yarran's manager has explicitly stated Chris wants to go to Richmond.
Tigers know what we require and what they have on the table isn't quite good enough.
Silvagni on 3aw:
Steve Silvagni: 'We have the Chris Yarran situation to get through. We'd like to resolve it, if we can't, he's contracted for next year'
https://twitter.com/3AWSportsToday
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its a done deal....as if they are going to pay him next year for nothing...its not as if he's going to bust a nut for them if his heart bleeds yellow and black :snidegrin
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yep - get him next year ...
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Numbers don't add up on trading Chris Yarran
Liam Mannix
The Age
October 21, 2015 - 3:53PM
This article has the insight of a parasitic worm and foresight of a mole at midday.
Mannix is such a light weight that he is the frayed string attached to a weather balloon.
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Next year. Keep our picks
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Silvagni has a big ego and is a terrible businessman.
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If the RFC give that stuffing pick 12 up, I'm done with them. Seriously we will be laughed at more so than the Tambling fiasco.
You were done with them if they named Morris again. They proceeded to name him specifically to try and achieve the bigger picture goal of seeing you fire up.
Now you threaten it for the 17th time.
Goodbye pick 12
Your a clown, don't enter the discussion at the end of it!! Go read my 90,000 (not literally for the dim witted) other posts on this subject before you open your big mouth.. Don't pick my last post and take it out of context.
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Brett Anderson, on twitter, reckons Carlton will cave tomorrow and finally accept pick 19.
@1cbrowny1 - tigers will give up 12 for Yarran surely. 19 for Jack Steele?
@BrettAndersonIF - Blues will end up accepting 19.
@1cbrowny1 - they seem pretty sure they won't. I can see 19 and Gordon/future third round
@BrettAndersonIF - They will.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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As of Wednesday night, the Tigers were believed to be exploring a range of complicated pick swapping scenarios.
The Tigers have picks including No.12, 19, 52, while Carlton's conceivably relevant selections include No.20, 21, 59 and 60.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-wrap-aish-yarran-sweat-on-finalday-trade-deals
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As of Wednesday night, the Tigers were believed to be exploring a range of complicated pick swapping scenarios.
The Tigers have picks including No.12, 19, 52, while Carlton's conceivably relevant selections include No.20, 21, 59 and 60.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-wrap-aish-yarran-sweat-on-finalday-trade-deals
So We'll give picks 12, 19 and 52 and in return we'll end up with picks Yarran and picks 59 and 60.
Watch this space!
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please don't explore jack poo anymore over Yarren...I am over this bs. We are not gushing over this trade, the bloke is not the next Judd move on
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I'm not sure we should give up 19 for a player who turns up to work once every three months - Would there be a chance of still using out picks for Aish
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So We'll give picks 12, 19 and 52 and in return we'll end up with picks Yarran and picks 59 and 60.
Watch this space!
Think I'll be watching this one :thumbsup
Brett Anderson, on twitter, reckons Carlton will cave tomorrow and finally accept pick 19.
@1cbrowny1 - tigers will give up 12 for Yarran surely. 19 for Jack Steele?
@BrettAndersonIF - Blues will end up accepting 19.
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Do not stuffing give up pick 12 RFC...do not do it.
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So We'll give picks 12, 19 and 52 and in return we'll end up with picks Yarran and picks 59 and 60.
Watch this space!
Think I'll be watching this one :thumbsup
Brett Anderson, on twitter, reckons Carlton will cave tomorrow and finally accept pick 19.
@1cbrowny1 - tigers will give up 12 for Yarran surely. 19 for Jack Steele?
@BrettAndersonIF - Blues will end up accepting 19.
I'd give 19 for Jack Steel and run as fast as I could!!
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So We'll give picks 12, 19 and 52 and in return we'll end up with picks Yarran and picks 59 and 60.
Watch this space!
Think I'll be watching this one :thumbsup
Brett Anderson, on twitter, reckons Carlton will cave tomorrow and finally accept pick 19.
@1cbrowny1 - tigers will give up 12 for Yarran surely. 19 for Jack Steele?
@BrettAndersonIF - Blues will end up accepting 19.
I'd give 19 for Jack Steel and run as fast as I could!!
Yep 100%
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Chris Yarran in limbo
Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Emma Quayle
The Age
October 22, 2015
... Richmond and Carlton in a stand-off over Chris Yarran.
The Hawks could trade 15 and 18 to Richmond for 12 and 19, enabling Richmond to hand over either pick to Carlton for Yarran.
Richmond have refused to budge on Carlton's demand for pick 12 and have said they are prepared to let the 2pm Thursday deadline pass without securing Yarran if the Blues do not accept their offer of pick 19. Carlton have maintained Yarran is worth a first-round draft pick – not pick 19 – and think Richmond's pick 12 is fair.
Yarran is on close to $500,000 next year, but is prepared to move to Richmond for a lower sum and will become a restricted free agent at the end of next year.
At that time – were he to leave the Blues for Richmond on the terms of the current contract offer – the free agency compensation would be most likely an end-of-second-round draft pick.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-and-james-aish-in-limbo-20151021-gkf1y8.html
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There'd be no point in trading picks 12 & 19 for Hawthorn's 15 & 18 as on-trading 15 to Carlton would be just the same as giving up pick 12 for us. Ridiculous suggestion.
Glad we're willing to walk away if SOS & Carlton continue to live in the land of delusion today. We'll find out at 2pm.
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Or will we fold like gutless wonders?
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Tell them 19 or we drop them from the round 1 blockbuster for the bulldogs.
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Just tell them pick 19 or .... Off!
We should have put a time limit on our offer. They are just deliberately dragging this out to pee us offs
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Tell them 19 or we drop them from the round 1 blockbuster for the bulldogs.
bulldogs playing pies
But love your approach.
Maybe Tigers and n0rf opener at etihad? :shh
oh wait........ :-[
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We are going to cave into pressure aren't we.
It's like watching a derailing train in slow motion
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We are going to cave into pressure aren't we.
It's like watching a derailing train in slow motion
No chance of us caving
SOS has been seen going into a meeting with us with tube of lube
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Or will we fold like gutless wonders?
just cross your fingers and hope, you may get your wish yet
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Or will we fold like gutless wonders?
just cross your fingers and hope, you may get your wish yet
As opposed to your good self, who'd be elated if we coughed up picks 12 and 19 for him.
Hooray for everything the club does
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
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Geez Dooks, your glasses have come off over the past week :clapping
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
lol.
every time some negotiation drags out all you do is post "he's gone, wont resign, we will fold" etc in a constant barrage of "woe is me"
It is not valid critism of anything but a whiney view of what you are hoping for, so you can continue on your dark journey.
as for your second paragraph, that's just garbage. I am more than comfortable with criticism where its warranted. You try to make out like all i do is post BO JO type loolipop stuff, but this is just the george bush mentality that crops up when someone disagrees you.
you are also confusing not going all emo as being content. again the george bush type mentality, it doesnt have to be the complete opposite. I cant change it, so why let it drag me down? doesnt mean i like it, i just deal with it.
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
lol.
every time some negotiation drags out all you do is post "he's gone, wont resign, we will fold" etc in a constant barrage of "woe is me"
It is not valid critism of anything but a whiney view of what you are hoping for, so you can continue on your dark journey.
as for your second paragraph, that's just garbage. I am more than comfortable with criticism where its warranted. You try to make out like all i do is post BO JO type loolipop stuff, but this is just the george bush mentality that crops up when someone disagrees you.
you are also confusing not going all emo as being content. again the george bush type mentality, it doesnt have to be the complete opposite. I cant change it, so why let it drag me down? doesnt mean i like it, i just deal with it.
and if youd bothered to take note of what people are actually saying you would have noted that i have said that yarran is not worth 12, and have also gone cold on the idea of getting him full stop
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
I think youve explained your point well but the constant critisism of the club puts a lot of people off. The failure to aknowledge positives, the over simplyfying of AFL football operations and coaching. Its the opinion of many that constant impatience and calling for sackings when immediate results dont happen is one of the principal reasons why we have had such an appalling 30 years.
Constant negativety doesnt get you anywhere. For what its worth, my old man shut me down when I was a kid once, he was lamenting at how shocking we were, even though we'd had some pyrrhic victory. I was just a kid and said "dad, we won! Be happy". He turned to me and said "you dont know. You just dont know. Ive seen Richmond sides beat the second best team in the comp by 15 goals, Ive seen richnond win premierships with every talented player in the comp wearing the yellow and black".
I guess I just cant truly empathise...
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
I think youve explained your point well but the constant critisism of the club puts a lot of people off.
:'(
no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
The failure to aknowledge positives
..... :snidegrin
:clapping
no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
the over simplyfying of AFL football operations and coaching.
Its the opinion of many that constant impatience and calling for sackings when immediate results dont happen
is one of the principal reasons why we have had such an appalling 30 years.
its not a debate about the nature of the universe or god
its trying kick the pig skin into the bigger stick more times than the other jumper team
some things are simple; some of dimmas mates are plodders, our rucks are short, #12 for yarren would be crap etc.
dimma and friends have had 6-7 years, thats pretty good go innit?
if you look back over the last 20 years more coaches get a good 5 year chuck. i think your theory, is outdated,
no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
Constant negativety doesnt get you anywhere. For what its worth, my old man shut me down when I was a kid once, he was lamenting at how shocking we were, even though we'd had some pyrrhic victory. I was just a kid and said "dad, we won! Be happy". He turned to me and said "you dont know. You just dont know. Ive seen Richmond sides beat the second best team in the comp by 15 goals, Ive seen richnond win premierships with every talented player in the comp wearing the yellow and black".
I guess I just cant truly empathise...
consistently positive gets you fairyfloss, unicorns, rainbows, delsional, mass suicide cults drinking the kool aid
you gotta be careful to not go too far the other way
you start to look like essendon fan morons
your father is correct; we should have ambitions to be the real madrid of australia, or the hawthorn as sickening as it is to say. the mass pats on the back as we scrape into the lower rungs of the finals is pretty poor too. I would reckon most richmond fans agree dimma first couple of years were good given the overall picture. But we progressing enough given the rest of the comp. is trying to move forward too?
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
I think youve explained your point well but the constant critisism of the club puts a lot of people off. The failure to aknowledge positives, the over simplyfying of AFL football operations and coaching. Its the opinion of many that constant impatience and calling for sackings when immediate results dont happen is one of the principal reasons why we have had such an appalling 30 years.
Constant negativety doesnt get you anywhere. For what its worth, my old man shut me down when I was a kid once, he was lamenting at how shocking we were, even though we'd had some pyrrhic victory. I was just a kid and said "dad, we won! Be happy". He turned to me and said "you dont know. You just dont know. Ive seen Richmond sides beat the second best team in the comp by 15 goals, Ive seen richnond win premierships with every talented player in the comp wearing the yellow and black".
I guess I just cant truly empathise...
Dont begrudge anyone who offers an opinion though, albeit a negative one.
This club has done some things right (rance, jack, martin, miles) but ultimately its a performance based business and if you are constantly losing when it counts you will be ridiculed.
The club is where you should be voicing your opinion not at people who fork out hard earned cash year in year out for the same result.
Not every one was asking for sackings last year, but dont you think after 6/7 years we should be doing better with dimwit and a few years with hackley?
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no, im not the one wishing for it.
I'm not wishing, I love the club. I'm just realistic enough to know there's a high chance it could happen and am comfortable enough not to hide behind it and to indeed talk about it openly, as well as criticise the possibility. Hold them to account if it does happen for the sake of betterment for the club.
People like yourself don't appear to like that because they aren't comfortable in open discussions which may criticise the club. Why that specifically is seems to be open to interpretation and has seldom been explained without solely relying upon bagging out the other perspective. But the perception is that it's a position of love (which is great) but blinded by that love to a point of being content and even exigent with mediocrity and unaccountability.
lol.
every time some negotiation drags out all you do is post "he's gone, wont resign, we will fold" etc in a constant barrage of "woe is me"
It is not valid critism of anything but a whiney view of what you are hoping for, so you can continue on your dark journey.
as for your second paragraph, that's just garbage. I am more than comfortable with criticism where its warranted. You try to make out like all i do is post BO JO type loolipop stuff, but this is just the george bush mentality that crops up when someone disagrees you.
you are also confusing not going all emo as being content. again the george bush type mentality, it doesnt have to be the complete opposite. I cant change it, so why let it drag me down? doesnt mean i like it, i just deal with it.
Nup. Wrong on most assumptions there.
One thing i will bite at though is the whole 'Woe is me' thang. Mate it's got nothing to do with feeling down or being an emo. A lot of Richmond supporters who criticise the club don't come from the perspective of playing the victim. After so many years of rubbish it's about disbelief and humor at the ongoing stupidity of many decisions. If it gets you down then ignore it.
For the record I don't think you are anywhere near extreme as Bojo or one or two others and I'm not pushing a with us or them or against us or them position if you don't agree with me. It's not that important and is really a peripheral matter in the scheme of everything that is discussed here.
Anyway each to their own.
Now did we cough up pick 12 anybody?
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i stuffing hope not
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I just read on the afl trade website that the reason Carlton are playing hardball is they have promised our pick 12 to GWS for Tomlinson.
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I just read on the afl trade website that the reason Carlton are playing hardball is they have promised our pick 12 to GWS for Tomlinson.
thats a bit bloody presumptuous
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SEN news at midday said Richmond won't up their offer of pick 19 so Yarran could remain at Carlton next year.
However, Brett Anderson on SEN afterwards said he still expects a deal to be done before the 2pm deadline.
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We should just trade pick 12 to GWS for Tomlinson to spite Carlton. Need a KPD anyway...
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Stick fat tiges, not long to go now.
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We should just trade pick 12 to GWS for Tomlinson to spite Carlton. Need a KPD anyway...
Tomlinson-Rance-Grimes
:clapping
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In fact that would leave Carlton with nothing but pick 19. Would be nice to put them in such a hard spot...
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10.15am: YARRAN UPDATE
We touched briefly on Blues footy chief Andrew McKay updating the Chris Yarran situation.
Here is Jen Phelan's full story.
CARLTON expects Chris Yarran to line up in navy blue next season if Richmond can't come up with a first round selection to trade for him before today's 2pm deadline.
The Blues have also confirmed their interest in Greater Western Sydney forward Adam Tomlinson.
There has been suggestion the contracted Yarran could sit out of season 2016 if the Blues and Tigers can't find common ground on a trade today.
But the Blues – who are still demanding a first-round NAB AFL Draft pick for the half back – say he'll simply remain at their club next year if a deal isn't done.
"Hopefully we'll get something done today. We want a first rounder and we're at loggerheads at the moment but we're confident we'll get something done," football manager Andrew McKay said on Thursday morning.
"Chris is a very talented player so we'd certainly be comfortable with him staying at Carlton for another year.
"I'm not sure he doesn't want to be [at Carlton]. He nominated to go to Richmond and keep in mind we've got a new coach and a lot of change under our roof so I'm sure Chris would be fine with us.
"I've been in contact with him and his manager. He's ok.
"I'm confident [he wouldn't miss a year]. It's a pretty big call to sit out of footy for 12 months."
The Tigers have offered their current pick of No.19, which the Blues have rejected.
McKay didn't rule out Hawthorn entering the deal. A possible trade with the Tigers involving their pick No.12, which has been off-limits to the Blues, could be struck for the Hawks' 15 and 18.
One of the premiers' picks could then potentially move Yarran.
"It's tough to speculate because that hasn't been done yet so we'll jump that hurdle when we get to it," McKay said.
McKay also said a deal that secured a first round pick could ultimately seal an agreement with the Giants for Tomlinson.
"He's a player of interest, definitely. He's certainly a good player and one we're very keen to get," he said.
"A bit of water's got to go under the bridge before we can manage to even think about that."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/trade-period-live-the-final-few-hours
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67 minutes to go.
Talk about time on in the final quarter!
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pies stuff me aish for 2 second rounders and we are splitting hairs over this bloke.
hopefully heads roll after this pathetic trade period
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dont fold
dont fold
dont fold
:pray
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Dont you stuffing fold Richmond >:(
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Expect something to happen Carlton-wise soon. Entire media team just arrived at Etihad Stadium, backdrops and cameras in hand. #TradePeriod
https://twitter.com/LaurenA_Wood
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Pick 19 or nothing. Don't let that scum team get 12
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If true then it looks like we're caving ::)
Hearing the Blues have also knocked back pick 12 for Yarran & 20.
https://twitter.com/emmasq
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Twitter saying we offered 12 for Yarran and 20. Eep
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:facepalm
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Don't do it. DONT DO IT
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Richmond attention to get Melbourne involved in Yarran trade. Jack Watts involved #NABTradeRadio #AFLTrades
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper
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But the Blues have rejected that too it seems ...
Carlton have flatly rejected 3 way trade involving Watts and picks. Standby #AFLTrades
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper
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This is unbelievable. Disgraceful Carlton.
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This is unbelievable. Disgraceful Carlton.
richmond is stupid for putting all the eggs in one basket
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pies stuff me aish for 2 second rounders and we are splitting hairs over this bloke.
hopefully heads roll after this pathetic trade period
Why, if we hold our nerve and keep pick 12 haven't actually done something right?
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Article on AFL website saying we've got him?!
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On twitter ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR4y7U4UsAAdqEQ.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Nugz12
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its dated 12.30 ...
if u click the link it says ...
OUT OF
BOUNDS
Sorry, but the page you are looking for cannot be found.
Try checking the URL for errors, then refresh your browser.
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pies stuff me aish for 2 second rounders and we are splitting hairs over this bloke.
hopefully heads roll after this pathetic trade period
Why, if we hold our nerve and keep pick 12 haven't actually done something right?
It's more about showing our hand and wasting the entire trade period on this one overrated sook when there were plenty of other deals & better players on offer......
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Blues have traded their picks 20 & 21 to the Dogs. So they aren't coming to us.
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pies stuff me aish for 2 second rounders and we are splitting hairs over this bloke.
hopefully heads roll after this pathetic trade period
Why, if we hold our nerve and keep pick 12 haven't actually done something right?
It's more about showing our hand and wasting the entire trade period on this one overrated sook when there were plenty of other deals & players on offer......
surely even you can see how much we screwed this fortnight up WP? Do you want to win a flag or maintain the status quo?
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pies stuff me aish for 2 second rounders and we are splitting hairs over this bloke.
hopefully heads roll after this pathetic trade period
Why, if we hold our nerve and keep pick 12 haven't actually done something right?
It's more about showing our hand and wasting the entire trade period on this one overrated sook when there were plenty of other deals & players on offer......
^^
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Blues have traded their picks 20 & 21 to the Dogs. So they aren't coming to us.
Because they're expecting to get pick 19 or are we done with them?
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pick 19 it is!!!!
well done! :cheers
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Got it done. Excellent work RFC. Didnt blink!
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surely even you can see how much we screwed this fortnight up WP? Do you want to win a flag or maintain the status quo?
Stupid question Angus, of course I want to win a flag
But I don't want us to pay overs just get a trade done
Did we screw up the Astbury trade? No think Dave did that on his lonesome.
Did we try for Trelaor? Yep. Not our fault he didn't want to come
As for Aish, well worth a look but avian wants to be at the Pies
As for Carlisle, this no the events of the last 24 hours, show we may had dodge a bullet
Did we pay overs for Townsend? nope got that right
So let's just try and look at things with. A bit of perspective rather than going whackety whack for the sake of it
There's still 25 minutes to go
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YARRAN BECOMES A TIGER! @CarltonFC trades pick 19 to @Richmond_FC, which gets Chris Yarran!
https://twitter.com/FOXFootyLive
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From Ralphy
@RalphyHeraldSun: So Richmond finally get Yarran for pick 19. Dan Richardson has held his nerve before in Conca and Martin talks and does it again this time
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Carlton trades pick 19 to Richmond?
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Happy that we kept pick 12 & got the Yarran deal done. Now we have to get the right player with pick 12 at the draft ... ;D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR416ytUAAALRVb.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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Grimes Astbury Deledio
C Ellis Rance Vlastuin
Edwards Miles Mcintosh
Lennon Reiwoldt Towsend
Yarren Vickery McBean
Maric Martin Cotchin
Houli Conca B Ellis
Menadu/#12
:shh
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pick 19 it is!!!!
well done! :cheers
Yep didn't pay overs
Got their man
And Carlton take over as the most difficult club to deal during trade week unless you're the Giants
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Well done on not blinking....still wasted the trade period on a bloke who's only had two good seasons out of seven and massive off-field issues that are rumoured in some circles to be just as bad as a better player from Gold Coast that we knocked back for that reason
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pick 19 it is!!!!
well done! :cheers
Yep didn't pay overs
Got their man
And Carlton take over as the most difficult club to deal during trade week unless you're the Giants
:huh
gws throwing away kids like its a party
Well done on not blinking....still wasted the trade period on a bloke who's only had two good seasons out of seven and massive off-field issues that are rumoured in some circles to be just as bad as a better player from Gold Coast that we knocked back for that reason
no ruckman
no KPD
:P
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pick 19 it is!!!!
well done! :cheers
Yep didn't pay overs
Yes we did.
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Didn't buckle!
Good work RFC.
We'll get a good player with 12!
Overall though I thought we were poor.....
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End of first round pick for a 2015 VFL player. :clapping :gotigers :clapping
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Didn't buckle!
Good work RFC.
We'll get a good player with 12!
Overall though I thought we were poor.....
#ProjectYarren
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Good to see the club backing their scoring system in, clearly we can get a better player in at 12 and they rated Yarren better than our second pick. Just hope we can trade back into that round next year.
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Good to see the club backing their scoring system in, clearly we can get a better player in at 12 and they rated Yarren better than our second pick. Just hope we can trade back into that round next year.
after we win the flag, fringe players at richmond will have tremendous value
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:huh
gws throwing away kids like its a party
True but the best deals seem to be reserved for SOS's former employer GWS
Overall though I thought we were poor.....
Agree,
But if you put blokes up for trade and they refuse to go or price themselves out of being traded is that really the clubs fault
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True but the best deals seem to be reserved for SOS's former employer GWS
dont forget Collingwood
who is better mates with the AFL love child
SOS or 'Gubby' Allan
its like a gameshow, win a sofa
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Gee WP ...wouldn't actually be sticking up for Richardson & Hartley now would you?
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Gee WP ...wouldn't actually be sticking up for Richardson & Hartley now would you?
Nope it's actually another whack by extension (no pun intended)
Why give certain blokes 3 year deals when they are not deserved, thus leaving you with your hands tied at trade time
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Gee WP ...wouldn't actually be sticking up for Richardson & Hartley now would you?
Nope it's actually another whack by extension (no pun intended)
Why give certain blokes 3 year deals when they are not deserved, thus leaving you with your hands tied at trade time
maybe he knows richmond is a bit of a joke not giving him a game regardless of form - or how shyte Chaplin decides to play on any given week ?
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imo great signing
in the top 3 or 4 in terms of skill at richmond
with choco at the club we will get the best out of him :cheers
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Bottom 3 or 4 in terms of attitude, hardness, work ethic & character....
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Wrapped with this. Well done to the club for holding firm. I reckon he really
Blossom with us and work hard over the pre season
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imo great signing
in the top 3 or 4 in terms of skill at richmond
with choco at the club we will get the best out of him :cheers
if they select the most skillful people; yarren, corey ellis, lennon, mcbean ... it could certainly be useful
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poo negotiations for a poo person.
He ain't worth 19.
Well done
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Dan Richardson said it's a 3-year deal.
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Took 2 weeks to do that OMG.... So out of all that we picked up 2 players mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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whats the chances #19 next fyfe :clapping
Took 2 weeks to do that OMG.... So out of all that we picked up 2 players mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yer but #bigfish
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maybe he knows richmond is a bit of a joke not giving him a game regardless of form - or how shyte Chaplin decides to play on any given week ?
If you would take your Chaplin hatred glasses for a minute you'd might be able to see that Astbury (and I wasn't just talking about him BTW) is not in our best 22.
No before you go off on another of your pointless Chaplin tangents (eg Astbury >>>> Chaplin). What I am saying is this: Yes he had a pathetic Elim Final, yes he is slow over the ground but overall his 2015 was reasonable, not great, not outstanding but reasonable. He played the role the Club wanted him to play. Now I have never once said I agree with that role but he plays it well, thems the facts. And TBBH right now if I had to pick one or the other I'd go for Chaplin because he plays the role required of him and I believe he does a lot better than Astbury can
I would've loved for us to target a KPP back (other than Carlisle) but we didn't. So we move on
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would be nice to see that group in the seniors next year...at the same time
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maybe he knows richmond is a bit of a joke not giving him a game regardless of form - or how shyte Chaplin decides to play on any given week ?
If you would take your Chaplin hatred glasses for a minute you'd might be able to see that Astbury (and I wasn't just talking about him BTW) is not in our best 22.
No before you go off on another of your pointless Chaplin tangents (eg Astbury >>>> Chaplin. What I am saying is this: Yes he had a pathetic Elim Final, yes he is slow over the ground but overall his 2015 was reasonable, not great, not outstanding but reasonable. He played the role the Club wanted him to play. Now I have never once said I agree with that role but he plays it well, thems the facts. And TBBH right now if I had to pick one or the other I'd go for Chaplin because he plays the role required of him and I believe he does a lot better than Astbury can
I would've loved for us to target a KPP back (other than Carlisle) but we didn't. So we move on
astbury is 25 next season
hes had a few injury and attacks from sea animals, but overall hes not been given a proper shot
no doubt in the back of his mind he thinks the hardwick selection policy is a bit smelly overall
do we move on or do we stagnate
pick 19 is overs - in a draft thats rubbish outside the top 20, and you only get two b/c grade players in a free for all trade period
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pick 19 is overs
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Relieved we didn't cough up pick 12.
Pick 19 is probably being too generous but it could have been worse
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whats the chances #19 next fyfe :clapping
Took 2 weeks to do that OMG.... So out of all that we picked up 2 players mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yer but #bigfish
hahah big fish he wanted to come to us we didn't chase him we just had to make carlton happy not the player unlike all the other guys we tried to chase down :banghead :banghead
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lol at some of you who sit & watch Twitts One of the tools l have never used
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astbury is 25 next season
hes had a few injury and attacks from sea animals, but overall hes not been given a proper shot
no doubt in the back of his mind he thinks the hardwick selection policy is a bit smelly overall
do we move on or do we stagnate
pick 19 is overs - in a draft thats rubbish outside the top 20, and you only get two b/c grade players in a free for all trade period
You complain that we hold on to blokes who you deem to be no good but make excuses for guys who haven't shown enough to warrant being selected let alone kept on our list
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lol at some of you who sit & watch Twitts One of the tools l have never used
in english? you've never played footy
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astbury is 25 next season
hes had a few injury and attacks from sea animals, but overall hes not been given a proper shot
no doubt in the back of his mind he thinks the hardwick selection policy is a bit smelly overall
do we move on or do we stagnate
pick 19 is overs - in a draft thats rubbish outside the top 20, and you only get two b/c grade players in a free for all trade period
You complain that we hold on to blokes who you deem to be no good but make excuses for guys who haven't shown enough to warrant being selected let alone kept on our list
i was all for trading a conca, astbury, B ellis, bachelor, elton to improve our draft position, given the draft is apparently poor outside of the high end
the fact is we did not
i am merely saying i can see how asbtury is disillusioned with his lot given his time at the club
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Yarran becomes a Tiger
richmondfc.com.au
October 22, 2015 1:35 PM
Richmond has sealed a trade for talented, versatile speedster Chris Yarran from Carlton.
The Tigers have handed the Blues the pick 19 they received from Gold Coast earlier this week in exchange for Yarran, who has played 119 games and kicked 90 goals in his seven-season AFL career.
Yarran, Carlton’s first pick (No. 6 overall) in the 2008 National Draft, enjoyed a career-best season in 2014, finishing fourth in its Best and Fairest award.
Throughout his time at Carlton, he earned a reputation as one of the most exciting players in the competition, due to his lightning pace, evasive ability and excellent kicking skills with either foot.
He’s also capable of being used effectively in a variety of roles, including as a small forward and a rebounding defender.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-10-22/yarran-becomes-a-tiger
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AFL website's photoshop job ...
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Welcome-To-Tigerland.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/
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Pretty decent replacement for old man Newy
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whats the chances #19 next fyfe :clapping
id say somewhere around 1000-1
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Pretty decent replacement for old man Newy
What wouldn't be when your limits are propping open a door somewhere
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whats the chances #19 next fyfe :clapping
id say somewhere around 1000-1
Only needs to be better than Yarran....... the next Fyfe would likely be someone Hackson would've missed anyway....
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VIDEO:
Yarran highlights: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-22/yarrans-highlights
Yarran burns opponents: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-22/yarran-burns-opponents
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Next years draft strong apparently. And we are already down a 2nd rounder
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Yeah but Conca, B.Ellis, Houli, Grigg & Griffiths are all required players and untouchable....
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We certainly have scope to trade for further picks in next years draft. If Yarran does lift to a new level as did Betts for the Crows then it may well be the best recruiting we have done for some time. The problem is of course that if he fails to perform then our 2nd round pick we gave away will no doubt turn out to be a superstar. If anyone is in the posession of a crystal ball then please hand it over to the RFC because otherwise we all as supporters need to let things pan out before being too critical of both the decison to bring Yarran to the club and the method of getting him here.
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Well turned out ok in the end, happy with this, welcome Chris... :clapping :gotigers
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LMFAO at Yarran dragging off B Ellis in the highlights and kicking that goal... :lol
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Could Yarran play forward? I know they said half back, replacing newy i guess.
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Could Yarran play forward? I know they said half back, replacing newy i guess.
Go have a look at the highlights package and see where he should play. But knowing Hardwick, he will play ruck.. :snidegrin
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-10-22/yarrans-highlights
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Hardwick, being a idiot, former, average defender, will " re-bleed" Yarran off half back flank.
It's the only way hardwick knows how to "develop" such an addition.
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Well done Tigers , played the blooze on a break,,,,,,,again :clapping
Got our man former top 10 pick that is a human highlights reel for a bargain basement price and fills a need , a need for speed :shh
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Well done Tigers , played the blooze on a break,,,,,,,again :clapping
Got our man former top 10 pick that is a human highlights reel for a bargain basement price and fills a need , a need for speed :shh
Shut the hell up >:( we're all sick of the charade
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Whoa! :shh
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Well done Tigers , played the blooze on a break,,,,,,,again :clapping
Got our man former top 10 pick that is a human highlights reel for a bargain basement price and fills a need , a need for speed :shh
Shut the hell up >:( we're all sick of the charade
I'm not love it :clapping
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Troll enabler. Post reported.
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Penelope will be getting her rocks off
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:clapping
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Glad we didn't spend pick 12.
As for using our two 2nd-round picks... well we don't nail them often enough anyway but if Yarran comes good then he will be a bargain at pick 19. If he flops it's a shame, but we couldn't certainly do worse in the draft.
Welcome Yarran and all the best!
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The Three Amigos all gone....couldn't stomach what Blued were cooking......
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Lol what year was this?
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Yazza Yazza Doo
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I thought the idea of the forum was to put up debate to disprove others views and prove your own.
We all know you go out of your way to be ultra positive its almost given that its your role on the site, and we all take it with a grain of salt well most of us do, but when you become abusive well then it goes too far.
I have been banned and suspended for far less on a lot of sites. mate it is your right to voice a super positive opinion of all things richmond, most of us would support you to do so. It is not your right to become abusive just because people have opposing views. If someone rips into ya well and good give it back but i dont see it here.
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
He actually cost us nd 31 and 2016 nd 2nd round. Which in a strong draft year will be a bloody good pick and even more valuable if we finish bottom 6.
I keep looking at the list and think we are just three injuries away from disaster.
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
He actually cost us nd 31 and 2016 nd 2nd round. Which in a strong draft year will be a bloody good pick and even more valuable if we finish bottom 6.
I keep looking at the list and think we are just three injuries away from disaster.
Are you picking us to finish bottom six
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Snip :banghead
Stick the topic
Enough with the abuse directed at other posters
For those who handled it the right way via the Report to Moderator function thank you
It has been dealt with.
Suggest everyone have another re-read of this:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17325.msg482852#msg482852
I am not interested in who started it
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Snip :banghead
Stick the topic
Enough with the abuse directed at other posters
For those who handled it the right way via the Report to Moderator function thank you
It has been dealt with.
Suggest everyone have another re-read of this:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17325.msg482852#msg482852
I am not interested in who started it
no worries boss
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Awesome news that we got Yarran in the end.
I predict he will play forward in 2016 and kick us 40 plus goals.
Pick 19 is a bargain IMO.
Get on board, Yarran has already proven that he is committed to the RFC so get behind him..
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Doesn't mean next year we cant trade out some crap and get an earlier second pick than what we would have had anyway, so lets not get too bent out of shape about that pick.
I will be more interested to see who is coming up for FA next year than a second rounder from next year that who knows wtf we would have picked..... :huh...if that make sense :lol
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
He actually cost us nd 31 and 2016 nd 2nd round. Which in a strong draft year will be a bloody good pick and even more valuable if we finish bottom 6.
I keep looking at the list and think we are just three injuries away from disaster.
Are you picking us to finish bottom six
Well i think bottom 6 - 8 is a real possibility if things go wrong. I have rated us nothing more than a middling side even with finals.
A serious question no glib replies, Do you think we can make the 8 if we lost Rance, Maric, and Riewoldt early in the year for the season. I dont.Its just three players and we would not finish top 12 yet alone make the 8. Our depth in key areas is lousy. I also think we are a soft too outside side and did nothing to fix this apart from Townsend who i like as a player but there are no guarantees he will do a thing. The other player we added If anything when it gets hot in the kitchen Yarran will just add to our problems.
I also look at sides around us you know top 12 or so from this year, they arent standing still thats for sure. Imo for us top 8 is no guarantee like a lot think.
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
He actually cost us nd 31 and 2016 nd 2nd round. Which in a strong draft year will be a bloody good pick and even more valuable if we finish bottom 6.
I keep looking at the list and think we are just three injuries away from disaster.
Are you picking us to finish bottom six
Well i think bottom 6 - 8 is a real possibility if things go wrong. I have rated us nothing more than a middling side even with finals.
A serious question no glib replies, Do you think we can make the 8 if we lost Rance, Maric, and Riewoldt early in the year for the season. I dont.Our depth in key areas is lousy. I also think we are a soft too outside side and did nothing to fix this apart from Townsend who i like as a player but there are no guarantees he will do a thing. The other player we added If anything when it gets hot in the kitchen Yarran will just add to our problems.
I also look at sides around us you know top 12 or so from this year, they arent standing still thats for sure. Imo for us top 8 is no guarantee like a lot think.
Crawski, you picking the Demons to finish higher on the ladder again?
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From the HUN website
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Have been saying for a while our depth is still a concern.
And I agree with you claw I think if we were to lose Rance and or Reiwoldt for any extended period we'd be in strife bit strife.
Rance to me is without doubt our most important player
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AHH it makes me cringe to think what could have been if we had just had half a brain.
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Have been saying for a while our depth is still a concern.
And I agree with you claw I think if we were to lose Rance and or Reiwoldt for any extended period we'd be in strife bit strife.
Rance to me is without doubt our most important player
dont you have some pull down there? tell them to wake the stuff up seriously. They must seriously rate all our players to not even worry about depth or fixing more obvious needs like a ruckman.
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dont you have some pull down there?
I wish :lol
If I did first person to be shown the door would be good old Blair :thumbsup
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Yarran is a tiger now for pick 19
He actually cost us nd 31 and 2016 nd 2nd round. Which in a strong draft year will be a bloody good pick and even more valuable if we finish bottom 6.
I keep looking at the list and think we are just three injuries away from disaster.
Are you picking us to finish bottom six
Well i think bottom 6 - 8 is a real possibility if things go wrong. I have rated us nothing more than a middling side even with finals.
A serious question no glib replies, Do you think we can make the 8 if we lost Rance, Maric, and Riewoldt early in the year for the season. I dont.Our depth in key areas is lousy. I also think we are a soft too outside side and did nothing to fix this apart from Townsend who i like as a player but there are no guarantees he will do a thing. The other player we added If anything when it gets hot in the kitchen Yarran will just add to our problems.
I also look at sides around us you know top 12 or so from this year, they arent standing still thats for sure. Imo for us top 8 is no guarantee like a lot think.
Crawski, you picking the Demons to finish higher on the ladder again?
Ah the Demons the bastards are giving me nightmares.I think they have plenty of talent and should be at the least challenging for the 8. But having been bitten on the arse, painfully mind, im not going to back em in.
Lets just say if our wheels fall off and they start to get close to their potential then yes it is a possibility they will finish in front of us.
They only lost Howe who i like as aplayer well as a hf anyway.
Next yr in comes Kennedy, Bugg, Melksham and basically Petracca. Also they ended up with picks 3 and 7 and both could possibly play straight away.As i said no one is sytanding still.
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Lol what year was this?
Just imagined that poster with Betts & Garlett swapped for Grigg & Hamspud......made me laugh....then cry....
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Penelope will be getting her rocks off
if i was i would be doing it on my own, you have proven to be an abysmal failure in that field.
but just out of curiosity, what would i be getting my rocks off over?
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Think he was referring to posts that have since been snipped.....which admittedly doesn't really explain it either.....
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Have been saying for a while our depth is still a concern.
And I agree with you claw I think if we were to lose Rance and or Reiwoldt for any extended period we'd be in strife bit strife.
Rance to me is without doubt our most important player
I would also agree, but how many teams would play consistently good enough football to play finals without their key back, key forward and #1 ruckman?
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hawthorn. That's enough.
eglar, Spanger, Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson. It doesnt matter they have cover everywhere.
Go check our their depth and then ask yourself how they have won 4 flags in 8 years.
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Penelope will be getting her rocks off
if i was i would be doing it on my own, you have proven to be an abysmal failure in that field.
but just out of curiosity, what would i be getting my rocks off over?
pre-snip discussion
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is that an excuse for the first paragraph or an answer to the second?
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Need to recruit the better Yarran, Shane....Starred in the WAFL GF with 5 goals with pick 52.
Would solve our small forward problem. Even at 26 and 2 years in jail he is one of the most talented footballers going around.
Maybe it will be step aside Krakouer brothers, here come the Yarran cousins.... :shh
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First real pics of Yarran in a Tigers guernsey ...
He's currently in Perth until the end of the week. So there won't be any official parading of him down at Punt Rd until next week.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2015/10/22/1227579/020364-671d032c-7897-11e5-8ef8-3bc6ff981dc8.jpg)
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/10/22/1227579/020337-684548ea-7897-11e5-8ef8-3bc6ff981dc8.jpg)
Chris Yarran, wearing his new Richmond jumper, had to wait until the last half hour of the trade period to get to the Tigers.
Picture: Bohdan Warchomij
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-richmond-carlton-complete-chris-yarran-deal-30-minutes-before-deadline/story-fnj3twbb-1227579020391)
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Very nice Chris :thumbsup ;D
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bit funny looking
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Number 13 just recently became vacant too.
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I know all the doubts around him, but you have to admit, he has a lot of talent. I think it's worth trying to harness that with pick 19 in a shallow draft.
Watching those highlights, and yes i know they are just highlights, but if he gets goal side of you it's lights out. Literally no one can catch him. Varcoe couldn't even get close.
He will provide some excitement next year.
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Ivan definitely needs a chop out !
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I know all the doubts around him, but you have to admit, he has a lot of talent. I think it's worth trying to harness that with pick 19 in a shallow draft.
Watching those highlights, and yes i know they are just highlights, but if he gets goal side of you it's lights out. Literally no one can catch him. Varcoe couldn't even get close.
He will provide some excitement next year.
Yaz and Deledio :shh
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Needs to kick seven on debut or he can just stuff off.
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it was pretty hot in the kitchen when he kicked that goal from the boundary against us....professor claw
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hawthorn. That's enough.
eglar, Spanger, Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson. It doesnt matter they have cover everywhere.
Go check our their depth and then ask yourself how they have won 4 flags in 8 years.
No question they've got an ability to cover key positions like no team I've ever seen.
BUT, would you have said that about them before they won any of their flags?
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I hope his move to us proves an enormous success to us and him.
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yes and I hope he doesn't pull a Carlisle
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Welcome to Tigerland Chris
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I think at the moment hes probably around our top 10 mark. If he reaches his potential, top 5 imo #wheels
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It only matters, were he is on Dimmas magic white board
Top ten along with hunt and Hampson
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I think at the moment hes probably around our top 10 mark. If he reaches his potential, top 5 imo #wheels
Top five pretty clear
Jack
Rance
Lids
Chimp
Dusty
If he breaks into that we going alright
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It only matters, were he is on Dimmas magic white board
Top ten along with hunt and Hampson
:gobdrop
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I think at the moment hes probably around our top 10 mark. If he reaches his potential, top 5 imo #wheels
Top five pretty clear
Jack
Rance
Lids
Chimp
Dusty
If he breaks into that we going alright
Indeed, why Im very happy with us picking him up. Will probably only play a handful of mediocre games for us though, while pick 19 will be the next Fyfe. :whistle
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Would say if he is switched on and playing his best he is easily in our best 22
Around the 12-18 mark
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1-5
Jack
Rance
Lids
Chimp
Dusty
a/b
miiles
vlastuin
titch
high potential
lennon
c ellis
mcbean
its hard to fit him in as he is probable better than most of the kids, perhaps with a lesser up side
Would say if he is switched on and playing his best he is easily in our best 22
Around the 12-18 mark
:huh
well of course
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Would say if he is switched on and playing his best he is easily in our best 22
Around the 12-18 mark
Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
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Would say if he is switched on and playing his best he is easily in our best 22
Around the 12-18 mark
Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
fair comment
but lennon gets dropped all the time or played as sub
c ellis could be anything is remains fit
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One thing for sure is this guy definitely wanted to play for RFC. Wonder how we sold ourselves to him? Or how much are we paying him?
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One thing for sure is this guy definitely wanted to play for RFC. Wonder how we sold ourselves to him? Or how much are we paying him?
Has been reported that he is on around $500k next year (last year of his Carlton contract) but he will getting alot less from us in the following 2 years, supposedly take a cut to come to us
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stuff.
Why didn't someone tell me he was BLACK!!!??
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
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edwards ahead of yarran. No worries mike sheehan.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTGslwPA2c
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He ain't anywhere near the top 22-25 until he proves himself.
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People wanted X-factor, and here it is. Now stop complaining
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People wanted X-factor, and here it is. Now stop complaining
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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One thing for sure is this guy definitely wanted to play for RFC. Wonder how we sold ourselves to him? Or how much are we paying him?
Has been reported that he is on around $500k next year (last year of his Carlton contract) but he will getting alot less from us in the following 2 years, supposedly take a cut to come to us
Dan Richardson said he came in on good money. Needed to reevaluate the cap space before looking at delisted free agents etc...
Must have done something right for him to knock back the Hawks though.
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He ain't anywhere near the top 22-25 until he proves himself.
you mean just like Lids. Cotch, Sheds...etc have proven to be finals specialists....oh yeah i see what you mean :huh :huh
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it was pretty hot in the kitchen when he kicked that goal from the boundary against us....professor claw
Yeah...and he was only a foot out of bounds...
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it was pretty hot in the kitchen when he kicked that goal from the boundary against us....professor claw
Yeah...and he was only a foot out of bounds...
ok ok....he is absolutely crap...the worst player on our star studded list of warriors...
happy??
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Yarran needs to be delisted, he's had long enough and shown us nothing :banghead
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Settle down & have some faith.....he might yet give us a 3rd good season...it will only be his 8th year.....
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:lol same average as Edwards :banghead
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Yarran needs to be delisted, he's had long enough and shown us nothing :banghead
Agree glass half full type
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Need to recruit the better Yarran, Shane....Starred in the WAFL GF with 5 goals with pick 52.
Would solve our small forward problem. Even at 26 and 2 years in jail he is one of the most talented footballers going around.
Maybe it will be step aside Krakouer brothers, here come the Yarran cousins.... :shh
You know i have watched him a dozen times or so. At times he has looked great other times hes been pretty poor.He would be worth a punt imo. I think in a AFL environment he would improve.
I think we could pick him up as a rookie though. We only have pick 12 and then 52 is next. I am hoping a kid like Oleg Markov would be there at 52.
Unless we cut more players we only have the scope to bring in three players to the list proper and one rookie.
If we dont delist anymore players, we likely wont going by the way they talk. Then we will only use 12 and 52 in the nd and most likely take a delisted player leaving one rookie pick or if we promote a rookie making it two rookie spots available..
Settle down & have some faith.....he might yet give us a 3rd good season...it will only be his 8th year.....
Yep it is likely to happen as it does with most players at new clubs. But what happens after next year is what i will be interested to see.
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He ain't anywhere near the top 22-25 until he proves himself.
you mean just like Lids. Cotch, Sheds...etc have proven to be finals specialists....oh yeah i see what you mean :huh :huh
True, but is he in front of say, Batchelor? Or Conca?
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With respect to skill, Yarran would be in the top 6 at the club. When it comes to courage he's probably in the bottom 6. If he can improve even a little in that area, he'll be an excellent acquisition. If he doesn't, he'll be an OER whipping boy! ;D
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Would want to play 18+ games, average 20+ possies and be in the B&F top ten as a 25 y.o half back without a direct opponent.
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Bet tyrone Vickery is breathing a big sigh of relief
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People wanted X-factor, and here it is. Now stop complaining
Speak for yourself.
I am content with grigg
Yarren must earn his spot in twos
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
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Both soft
Both outside
Both look good when things flying
Both go misin when thing get tough
Pretty good comparison I thought
At times we hve had no run behind the ball other than bacha. So at least yarren gives y another option. But then you hae two squibs in back six. One too many.
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is chaplin a squib at times?
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Both soft
Both outside
Both look good when things flying
Both go misin when thing get tough
Pretty good comparison I thought
You can do me do stereotypes as there are no other Muslims
At times we hve had no run behind the ball other than bacha. So at least yarren gives y another option. But then you hae two squibs in back six. One too many.
I just think at this level you shouldn't have to put up with a defender not being able to defend very well. I think most would agree he is poo at that. He gives us good run against the average sides but when he is up against the good teams he goes missing. And when he doesn't deliver his run and carry and he cannot defend we may as well have a witches hat out there.
I'm not saying Yarran is the answer at HB as I'd play him forward but what I am saying is that Houli isn't the answer. He has taken us this far but unfortunately he can take us no further. The quicker we realize this with players like Houli the quicker we can try and find a replacement.
We wonder why we have lost 3 elimination finals in a row, it's because we have too many guys that only play well against average sides. Houli, Grigg, Conca, and definitely Ellis.
Time to try others in these positions.
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is chaplin a squib at times?
oh yeah,
that would make three
squib party :gotigers
Both soft
Both outside
Both look good when things flying
Both go misin when thing get tough
Pretty good comparison I thought
You can do me do stereotypes as there are no other Muslims
At times we hve had no run behind the ball other than bacha. So at least yarren gives y another option. But then you hae two squibs in back six. One too many.
I just think at this level you shouldn't have to put up with a defender not being able to defend very well. I think most would agree he is poo at that. He gives us good run against the average sides but when he is up against the good teams he goes missing. And when he doesn't deliver his run and carry and he cannot defend we may as well have a witches hat out there.
I'm not saying Yarran is the answer at HB as I'd play him forward but what I am saying is that Houli isn't the answer. He has taken us this far but unfortunately he can take us no further. The quicker we realize this with players like Houli the quicker we can try and find a replacement.
We wonder why we have lost 3 elimination finals in a row, it's because we have too many guys that only play well against average sides. Houli, Grigg, Conca, and definitely Ellis.
Time to try others in these positions.
yep
after choking three years i would play harder people in defense
deledio vlastuin mintosh c ellis(?)
(yes the midfield under-performs , too)
maybe houli can play higher up the ground if he is to stay in the team forever
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People use the term Rate too easy. How many senior games did he play this year
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People use the term Rate too easy. How many senior games did he play this year
who cares how many senior games he played. Different club different coach. How many has mcbean, lennon played? Morris played a heap the year before doesnt mean he was any good.
Plenty of players in our team who shouldnt be gifted senior games.
i believe he will perform for us and hopefully push houli forward or out
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Have to say I kinda agree with this list WP, but it gets frightfully short of talent after our big five fish. Miles and Edwards are honourable mentions for me, the rest are solid at best, and the tail end of our list is plain weak.
Hopefully Yarran and Townsend can come in and make that 'bottom six' more accountable...
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Nice listing, this is exactly our problem, we really need
1 B Ellis
2 T Vickery
3 B Griffiths
4 R Conca
Have to stand up big time, or else they are on the trade table
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Have to say I kinda agree with this list WP, but it gets frightfully short of talent after our big five fish. Miles and Edwards are honourable mentions for me, the rest are solid at best, and the tail end of our list is plain weak.
Hopefully Yarran and Townsend can come in and make that 'bottom six' more accountable...
I would probably put Yarran in front of Grimes and Houli, purely based on run and carry, x factor and the ability to turn a game, which I don't believe Houli an Grimes are capable of.
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Stupid thread.
Nobody will know until he represented himself in the colors.
Speculate til your balls shrink
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I would probably put Yarran in front of Grimes and Houli, purely based on run and carry, x factor and the ability to turn a game, which I don't believe Houli an Grimes are capable of.
Agreed. I put him in the 6-10 range, which he could comfortably fit into if he performs.
Stupid thread.
Nobody will know until he represented himself in the colors.
Speculate til your balls shrink
We're allowed to make discussion, it's a long off-season...
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Yes, you are.
I'm permitted to touch on reality in my comments?
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I'd like to add that as my balls have now shrunk to the size of split peas, I am no longer able to speculate about the said Yarrans place for on our list.
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:D
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Have to say I kinda agree with this list WP, but it gets frightfully short of talent after our big five fish. Miles and Edwards are honourable mentions for me, the rest are solid at best, and the tail end of our list is plain weak.
Hopefully Yarran and Townsend can come in and make that 'bottom six' more accountable...
I would probably put Yarran in front of Grimes and Houli, purely based on run and carry, x factor and the ability to turn a game, which I don't believe Houli an Grimes are capable of.
Agreed WAT, I'm not sure if I'd pen him in anywhere just yet, but frankly if I had to choose between who I'd rather have, Houli or Yarran, I'd take Yarran, which by WP's measuring stick puts him at the top 10 mark.
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
optimistic:
* shows we have a young list
* the 'big 5' are all still got best footy ahead of them - id argue deledio would be a much better player in a good team which richmond have not really been in his time in the game; he would have another level or two, especially if left in the forward line 100% of time on ground..., shytes on gunston, for example
* next level is young kids too; Vlastuin, Miles, grimes
* titch goes alright , ditto houli, yarren
the next level you missed out 12-22, 'c grade' perhaps is also promising; Lennon, c Ellis, Mcbean ...
...depending on the make up of the 'best 22'
pessimistic:
* penny, brendon, dimma and co. are a bit stupid
* there are still loads of list blockers, and the powers that be are overly found of them
- source; check finals games, best and fairest voting
* over-reliance on Maric. Rance. Jack(?) Miles(?)
* too young best side / not enough leadership, mature players mostly spuds / over-reliance on 'big 5 /
tentative conclusion - if yarren ends up 6th best player on the list, thats pretty good ...
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
As a defender Houli is the worst we have by a mile.
The way I look at it-
Houli might cost us 2 direct goals a game on average with his lack of defensive skill. (When you take direct goals saved by direct goals cost) it doesn't sound like much but when you compare it to-
A top sides HB might who on average save two goals a game on average when you use the same formular.
So that's a 4 goal diferential. (Not sure if I have explained that properly but I'm hoping you get the gist)
When you consider our loses this year against the good sides that 4 goals is pretty damning.
Now I know he is there for his offensive run but his defending is not AFL standard and if we are serious about taking the next step, having a guy in our backline as bad as he is at defending, isn't going to cut it.
I just don't think he is tough enough and desparate enough to play in a backline of a top 4 side.
So my point WP is in order of who could make the biggest difference going forward, Yarran is in front of Houli and so are many others.
You comparing the two players only on 2015 output is ridiculas, if that was the case, would you put Houli in front of G Ablett if we had of traded for him during trade period?
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
As a defender Houli is the worst we have by a mile.
.... :lol
Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
As a defender Houli is the worst we have by a mile.
The way I look at it-
Houli might cost us 2 direct goals a game on average with his lack of defensive skill. (When you take direct goals saved by direct goals cost) it doesn't sound like much but when you compare it to-
A top sides HB might who on average save two goals a game on average when you use the same formular.
So that's a 4 goal diferential. (Not sure if I have explained that properly but I'm hoping you get the gist)
When you consider our loses this year against the good sides that 4 goals is pretty damning.
Now I know he is there for his offensive run but his defending is not AFL standard and if we are serious about taking the next step, having a guy in our backline as bad as he is at defending, isn't going to cut it.
I just don't think he is tough enough and desparate enough to play in a backline of a top 4 side.
So my point WP is in order of who could make the biggest difference going forward, Yarran is in front of Houli and so are many others.
You comparing the two players only on 2015 output is ridiculas, if that was the case, would you put Houli in front of G Ablett if we had of traded for him during trade period?
houli might make three goals by being on of the few guys willing to run and create
this is especially evident when the side goes into 'slow', kicking sideways, too scared to take on the oppisition, mode
outside of houli, rance, vlastuin there is very little forward movement or daring
somewhat i suppose why Mr Yarren has been givin the big bananas contract
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Based solely on output and those currently around him, Houli is in our best dozen players.
Is that good thing or bad thing? Is that a poor reflection on our depth?
That's a separate discussion altogether a valid one no doubt but a different / separate one to this
Question was where do you rate Yarran in our top 25?
Based solely on output for their respective sides in 2015, Houli was miles ahead of Yarran
If Yarran (who I am happy to have BTW) extracts the digit and plays to his absolute best then he'd goes past Houli very quickly (obviously) but until he does I'd have Houli in front of him
As a defender Houli is the worst we have by a mile.
.... :lol
Let me guess. Chaplin? ;D
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:lol
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Quite surprised the griggster doesnt get a mention in our top 10 players.
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^^^
:rollin
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WE all have given it to Houli over the journey,but folks that image of chaplin trying to get around the nimble Nahas is permanently fixed to my brain.It has well and truly passed Houlis magnificent kick against Freo in the dying seconds of the game
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"So wait...I'm confused.
Is he black ???"
Blair Hartley after picking up Chris Yarran
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WE all have given it to Houli over the journey,but folks that image of chaplin trying to get around the nimble Nahas is permanently fixed to my brain.It has well and truly passed Houlis magnificent kick against Freo in the dying seconds of the game
:facepalm
don't remind me G...
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I agree with big tone in that Houli is a very poor defender. However, he has been thrust down there to give us rebound. His proper position is wing to half forward. Yarran I feel is similar in his defensive capability but superior in his rebound and hitting up targets.
Bottom line, both are not good one on one defensively which worries me if both are put in defence. Would rather develop McIntosh as he is taller and and stronger as the defensive rebound person. Houli and Yarran can drift back and help out with rebound predominantly and they can both run forward and kick goals or hit up targets.
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Houli has finished in the top 10 in the B&F for 5 years straight big tone.
By the clubs' and most reasonable people's measure, that would make him a Top 10 player at the club.
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He's ok the Bach
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Who's ahead of him regarding those 12 players? After our top 7 or 8, it gets very thin very fast.
We can rate Lennon/C Ellis as prospects all we like but Yarran atm is far superior.
Here's 11 and I didn't even consider Lennon, ellis C or McIntosh
1. Rance
2. Lids
3. Martin
4. Jack
5. Cotchin
6. Maric
7. Edwards
8. Miles
9. Vlastuin
10. Grimes
11. Houli
Houli :lol not even close
Houli has finished in the top 10 in the B&F for 5 years straight big tone.
By the clubs' and most reasonable people's measure, that would make him a Top 10 player at the club.
The club also rates Grigg, Astbury Conca, Ellis and Griff so go figure.....
Jackson also won a B&F....
And Richo only won one.....
Also WP didn't have Houli in his top 10 after all his top 10 finishes. Does that make him unreasonable?
WP's list is a pretty decent core group of players, but it's the likes of Houli and Ellis who run around getting cheap kicks that impresses some people but it's about what they don't do that makes them hurt the players WP mentioned.
Anyway just my opinion.
And for the record it's not Houli's fault he is played as a backman either, which he is clearly not, it's the coaches. I could maybe handle if he was playing on a wing or half forward if his first objective was to kick a goal or set one up, but as a backman IMO his first objective is to stop his man which he finds nearly impossible to do against a decent side.
And lastly I think Yarran is twice the footballer as Houli. I've seen way to many Carlton games over the last 5 years as I go to the footy with my older brother who is a Carlton flog :shh
Yarran could be anything IMO and I'm willing to give him a chance to prove it. I've seen enough of him to have the confidence to think that.
If he gets his head right he could be top 6 at the club or better.
I hope for all our sakes I'm right. :thumbsup
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Best and fairest are a load if cod whollop
Not a measuring stick
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You would hope that an experienced footballer that costs you a top 20 pick would at least be in your top 25 players. Otherwise, why bother recruiting him ahead of a top 20 kid.
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You would hope that an experienced footballer that costs you a top 20 pick would at least be in your top 25 players. Otherwise, why bother recruiting him ahead of a top 20 kid.
Don't think there's any serious debate as to if he's in our starting line up. More along the lines of where does he rank amongst our current starters.
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Liam Mannix wrote a terrible article, his facts are based on drafting from 20 years ago to 2008 when it was mainly hit and miss.
Why not pick stats from 2006 to 2013 but he probably knows that they will make a mess of his article so lets exclude them.
well he actually went to 2008.
but why not use players stats from 2008?
well he used one benchmark of 100 games.
how many players drafted from 2008 would have reached 100 games?
the later you go, the worse the figures will be. it is impossible for kids drafted from 2012 and 2013 to have played 100 games.
to do so from 2011 would require them having played nearly every game since being drafted.
further to this, he has actually used two years that are really too early to be included.
2005 and 2006 both have three players who played 2015 but are on 80 + games.
But, 2007 and 2008 just have too many still playing that havn't, but feasibly could, reach 100 gamers for the data from these years to be meaningful
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Who won the Yarran trade?
Thursday, October 29, 2015
Source: SportsFan
Author: Ben Hocking
The big question
Richmond made it clear to Carlton that they wanted Chris Yarran, and the Blues made it clear to the Tigers that it was going to take pick No.12 to get the deal done. Richmond held their ground and said they would offer no more than pick No.19.
In the end it was Carlton who caved, accepting the Tigers' offer as the end of the trade period loomed. Richmond may have won the battle, but did they win the war?
Tigers win
Richmond got the player they wanted for the price they wanted to pay, so it's hard to see this as anything but a win for the Tigers. Yarran has played 119 games and at 24 years of age he still has his best football ahead of him. He has pace to burn, which should suit the Tigers well, and is capable of playing off half-back or as a small forward, giving the Tigers added versatility. His kicking is also precise, which counts for everything under Damien Hardwick's game plan. It's one of the reasons the Tigers were so bullish about landing him.
Blues win
Carlton wanted more, but despite the expected shallowness of this year's draft pool, pick No.19 should still land a fairly decent player with the quality predicted to fall away midway through the second round. There have been some very good No.19 draft picks over the years, including triple-premiership player Isaac Smith (2010), Callan Ward (2007) and David Mundy (2003), which should give the Blues plenty of hope they can snare a good young talent.
Our verdict
In terms of the price paid we reckon pick No.19 is about right for Yarran. However fair this deal seems, the way the negotiations took place left us with a clear winner and a clear loser. Richmond won the staring contest and the repercussions will go far beyond this year's trade period. Carlton were insistent on getting No.12 for Yarran and said they would be happy to keep him on their list a year longer if they didn't get the deal the wanted, but then they folded.
This will make it extremely hard for the Blues to hold its ground in future trade negotiations, setting a precedent that many clubs will expect them to follow. Conversely, the Tigers' ability to hold firm in the face of the looming trade deadline has let other clubs know that they will not buckle at the trade table, and when they say 'final offer' they mean final offer.
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/who-won-the-yarran-trade/tabid/91/newsid/178875/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_whowontheyarrantrade_281015
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https://instagram.com/p/-ILytOuAth/?taken-by=richmond_fc
:thumbsup
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# medium fish
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https://instagram.com/p/-ILytOuAth/?taken-by=richmond_fc
:thumbsup
Yep, saw this, this morning, looks like he has bulked up... :thumbsup :thumbsup
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https://instagram.com/p/-ILytOuAth/?taken-by=richmond_fc
:thumbsup
(https://igcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/12224086_995217687167170_918858686_n.jpg)
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yeah not sure if its bulked up or put on excess weight. YBB may be able to shed some light on this given his medical background.
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yeah not sure if its bulked up or put on excess weight. YBB may be able to shed some light on this given his medical background.
He looks a lot better than he did and needed the extra weight, he will be ripped before the season starts!!
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Yeah because any nuffer on the internet can determine whether someone has put on weight or bulked up from one photo. :lol
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yeah not sure if its bulked up or put on excess weight. YBB may be able to shed some light on this given his medical background.
Is he a property developer?
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Whether you like him or hate him, when he is on he is elite.
It's Dimma's and the other coaches job to make sure he is.
Really looking forward to watching him in a Tigers jumper next year, as well as C. Ellis.
Some exceptional class between those two with ball in hand.
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https://instagram.com/p/-ILytOuAth/?taken-by=richmond_fc
:thumbsup
Yep, saw this, this morning, looks like he has bulked up... :thumbsup :thumbsup
hope hes still fast :pray
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As long as he's still faster than Newman was....
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Have they switched him for Relton Roberts ?
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Yeah because any nuffer on the internet can determine whether someone has put on weight or bulked up from one photo. :lol
Go compare it to the shot of him in a scum Guernsey!!
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Yeah because any nuffer on the internet can determine whether someone has put on weight or bulked up from one photo. :lol
Go compare it to the shot of him in a scum Guernsey!!
I a,m not sure he's bulked up or out on some beef but he certainly looks filter in those pics than he did jogging around for Carltn this year
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Fitter or fatter WP? ;D
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Yarran's first interview as a Tiger ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-11-17/yarran-happy-to-be-a-tiger
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Yarran might have quit footy without fresh start at Tigers
AFL.com.au
November 17, 2015
NEW RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran has described his departure from Carlton as "heartbreaking" but feared he would be lost to the game entirely if he stayed at the Blues.
The 24-year-old half-back has spoken for the first time since becoming a Tiger last month in the dying stages of the NAB AFL Trade Period.
After a horrible 2015 season that resulted in suspension, two demotions to the VFL and a hamstring injury, Yarran said he believed he could have ended up on football's scrapheap if he wasn't given the chance to embrace a new challenge.
"It was very important for myself to get a fresh start because who knows, if I'd stayed at the other club, I might have parted ways with footy forever if I'd kept going the way I was going," Yarran told the club's website this week.
"A fresh start is just what I needed.
"Obviously it was well documented last year that I wasn't playing the way I would have liked but I'm just thankful Richmond gave me the opportunity to play for a great club and hopefully I can return the favour."
Yarran played 119 games for the Blues after being drafted with pick No.6 overall in the 2008 NAB AFL Draft.
It wasn't until last season he fell drastically out of form, after finishing fourth in the best and fairest in 2014 in a career-best season.
While he'll be reunited with ex-Blues Shaun Hampson and Shaun Grigg and a fellow former Swan Districts player in Alex Rance at Punt Road, he says the move was hard but had to happen.
"It was heartbreaking because I was at Carlton for seven years and I'll always have a soft spot for them but it was time for me to move on," he said.
"Both parties agreed it was in our best interests we parted ways."
Yarran's trade, which was finalised for the Tigers' second-round draft pick of No.19, didn't go through until the final minutes of the player movement window.
After going through a "frustrating" wait to see if he'd get the fresh start he craved, Yarran has now set his sights on helping the Tigers win a final after their three failed starts in as many years.
"I personally believe that Richmond are close to competing for the ultimate prize and hopefully I can contribute in that area," he said.
"Certainly their last few years have been pretty good, even though they didn't win a final.
"You've got [Trent] Cotchin, [Dustin] Martin, [Brett] Deledio … these types I think will push further in September next year and hopefully I can play some part it in that."
Filling a role across half-back, with time also spent on the wing and at half-forward, is on Yarran's agenda after a seamless off-season to date.
He's started training ahead of schedule and remains confident he has plenty to offer.
"I had no operations at the end of last year so it's a clean slate since I've come across to Richmond," he said.
"I'm not 26 until late next year so I still believe with my footy there's a lot there to improve on.
"It's just a matter of getting that consistency.
"We'll see how we go and hopefully I'll put my best foot forward and we'll go deep into September."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-17/yarran-might-have-quit-footy-without-fresh-start-at-tigers
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:shh
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Speaks well....
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Speaks well....
I'll put my best foot forward and we'll go deep into September."
8)
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He is a footy player not a Rhodes scholar like Tony Abbot oh stuff I can't keep a straight face and type that BAHAHAAH
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Is he tearing up the training track
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Is he tearing up the training track
He'll be like a new recruit!
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Putting his best foot forward by training the house down and taking one week at a time.
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Is he tearing up the training track
No where near Ellis.. ;D
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Ellis needs that extra speed to squib a contest in time
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
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...and you need him to keep whining so you can whine even more about all his whining.... :shh
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:shh
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I think Chris will apply himself at the RFC.
Ideally he would lead by his actions on the field.
Let's go, Chris - I'm on board, son!!
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
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I miss the days when we slagged on Rancey but wasn't it even better when Jack was a Spud , only last year Titch was no good which made us warm and fuzzy . When they start playing well we can thank goodness for Blair Scapegoat Hartley
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
Batchelor 2015 is your 2013 Edwards. You just don't know it yet.
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So all his apologists will declare him a gun and say "I told you so", only for his glaring deficiencies to once again be exposed in finals?
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
Batchelor 2015 is your 2013 Edwards. You just don't know it yet.
If we had a witches hat on the bench that would have been a better option than Batchelor on Waite. Only explanation as to why he gets a game is he must have photos
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
Batchelor 2015 is your 2013 Edwards. You just don't know it yet.
If we had a witches hat on the bench that would have been a better option than Batchelor on Waite. Only explanation as to why he gets a game is he must have photos
Not sure it was Batchelor's fault he was put on someone 15cm taller than him. Poor match up by the "brainstrust".
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
Batchelor 2015 is your 2013 Edwards. You just don't know it yet.
If we had a witches hat on the bench that would have been a better option than Batchelor on Waite. Only explanation as to why he gets a game is he must have photos
Not sure it was Batchelor's fault he was put on someone 15cm taller than him. Poor match up by the "brainstrust".
well done your finally starting to see the brains trust is a major part of the reason why we are still september failures.
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Ellis needs a new club. :snidegrin
You need a new player to whine about :shh
Ok, I pick Batchelor.. :snidegrin
You wouldn't see anyone at all to whine about would you with the RCGG attitude!!
Batchelor 2015 is your 2013 Edwards. You just don't know it yet.
If we had a witches hat on the bench that would have been a better option than Batchelor on Waite. Only explanation as to why he gets a game is he must have photos
Not sure it was Batchelor's fault he was put on someone 15cm taller than him. Poor match up by the "brainstrust".
well done your finally starting to see the brains trust is a major part of the reason why we are still september failures.
Look. I respect Dimma as a person. He is a hard working coach and a real family man. There would be nothing better than to see him succeed with us.
But, it is as obvious as dogs kahunas that he has constantly failed at the last hurdle. For me, the MINIMUM is that we finish top 4 or if we finish 5 to 8, we win a final. That doesn't mean I'm satisfied with that. It just means I recognise that the competition is fierce and that we may also not have the personnel to win a flag....
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The counter argument is Bach is too fat / slow / non agile / not good enough to play on people his own size, or small than him
Yarren , betts , garlett have taken turns ripping him have they not
I personally vomit when hardwick matcha up Bach vs a monster forward or ruckman
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We were smashed out of the middle, folks. That was the game right there.
Even if Bachelor was 8 feet tall, Waite still would of kicked most of his goals because he was getting it on a stuffing platter.
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We were smashed out of the middle, folks. That was the game right there.
Even if Bachelor was 8 feet tall, Waite still would of kicked most of his goals because he was getting it on a stuffing platter.
what about bach always playing on jessie white, and general sucking?
regardless of what club white is playing for
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Definitely need an upgrade but the dude is handy. Doesn't help that there are no other options either. He's also unlucky that it was a final and our last game for the year so everyone remembers it well. Sometimes Waite clicks and it all goes well for him and it happened to that day.
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Definitely need an upgrade but the dude is handy. Doesn't help that there are no other options either. He's also unlucky that it was a final and our last game for the year so everyone remembers it well. Sometimes Waite clicks and it all goes well for him and it happened to that day.
yep
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Definitely need an upgrade but the dude is handy. Doesn't help that there are no other options either. He's also unlucky that it was a final and our last game for the year so everyone remembers it well. Sometimes Waite clicks and it all goes well for him and it happened to that day.
Handy!!!!!! about as handy as an ashtray on a motorbike. Come round 1 who will be in the backline? I dont need to ask really, we all know the favorite hack Batch will be there.
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I use my motorbike ashtray all the time idiots
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Tigers will take the Dusty approach with Yarran: Williams
Harry Thring
December 1, 2015 4:13 PM
RICHMOND will embrace Chris Yarran's individuality – as they did with Dustin Martin – to get the best out of their talented recruit, according to development coach Mark Williams.
Yarran was traded to Punt Road in October after a 119-game career with the Blues, during which he failed to fulfill his potential.
Williams said that Tigers coach Damien Hardwick was a believer in establishing "guidelines" rather than strict rules to allow individuals to shine.
The former Port Adelaide coach has proven instrumental in helping gun midfielder Martin curb his off-field behavior. The 24-year-old has finished in the top three at each Richmond best and fairest since Williams' 2012 appointment.
"I'll definitely spend a lot of time with Chris – helping players reach their potential is one of the great things of coaching," Williams told AFL.com.au.
"People with great talent - if you can get them to be consistent and continually back themselves and believe in themselves, it'll be great for Richmond.
"All players are different – you can treat them all the same but you won't get the best result from them.
"Dustin would be one that if you make the rules 'this' strict, he's going to break some of them … give him a few guidelines off the field on what we can accept and once he joins in with the group and understands the responsibility he just delivers."
Williams revealed that Yarran would act as a mentor to a number of the Tigers' indigenous players – including high-profile draftee Daniel Rioli.
The 2004 premiership mentor spoke at the launch of his sister Jenny's first book: Think Prepare Play Like A Champion, that draws on her incredible experience as a player, coach and sports psychologist.
Jenny Williams' accomplishments as a sportsperson are mindboggling; she represented South Australia in six sports but made her greatest mark in lacrosse, winning gold for Australia at the 1986 World Cup.
She captained the national side from 1989-1992, captained South Australia to 11 national championships and was inducted into the state's sports hall of fame in 2013.
In 2007 she completed her masters in sports psychology by profiling each AFL coach as well as premiership-winning coaches from past seasons to try and understand the qualities that defined a champion.
Jenny has worked with eight AFL clubs and while her approach to sports psychology is sometimes labelled as 'experimental', she and Mark swear by it.
"Great coaches and people who are great leaders can get people to do things without ever making them realise how much extra you're getting them to do," she said.
"That's because you genuinely care about them.
"What starts to happen is you don't have to push anymore … you've actually inspired them.
"If you're tense you're more likely to hurt yourself so it doesn't matter how much sports science and warm up you do, if you're actually making people feel unhappy and not valued in a team, they're going to start having all these [injury issues]."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-12-01/tigers-will-take-the-dusty-approach-with-yarran-williams
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Gosh I like Choco
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Yarran will be a gun for the tiges with this man helping him.
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Who else has Chocco helped other than Martin?
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Port Adelaide
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Port Adelaide win a premiership
EFA
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Far from "embracing" it , I'd say we've actually stifled Martin's individuality over the years.....Hardwick could coach the flare out of a firecracker...
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Wasn't this already posted?
Edit: Ta, OE.
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Far from "embracing" it , I'd say we've actually stifled Martin's individuality over the years.....Hardwick could coach the flare out of a firecracker...
He's a real peon these days.
Except for the tatts....
And the haircut....
And that time when he flipped off the Collingwood cheersquad....
And the time he went to vegas with Swanny
And the time after that.
Yep, a real conformist!
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Far from "embracing" it , I'd say we've actually stifled Martin's individuality over the years.....Hardwick could coach the flare out of a firecracker...
He's a real peon these days.
Except for the tatts....
And the haircut....
And that time when he flipped off the Collingwood cheersquad....
And the time he went to vegas with Swanny
And the time after that.
Yep, a real conformist!
Clearly she was talking about footy
Not hair cuts and poo
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Whether you like him or hate him, when he is on he is elite.
It's Dimma's and the other coaches job to make sure he is.
And when he is off he is putrid.Hot and freezing sums his career up . A career that spans 7 years. Hardwick has his work cut out for himself i would say.
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He will fit in good then
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Yarran looks in good shape.
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(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/chris-yarran-runs-around-cones-during-a-richmond-tigers-afl-training-picture-id500856064)
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/chris-yarran-tackles-a-bag-during-a-richmond-tigers-afl-training-at-picture-id500856068)
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/chris-yarran-tackles-a-bag-during-a-richmond-tigers-afl-training-at-picture-id500856046)
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/richmond-tigers?editorialproducts=sport&family=editorial&phrase=richmond%20tigers&sort=best&excludenudity=true
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Good tackle on Chaplin in that last photo.
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Gave a firmer palm off than he did against Nahas
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Whether you like him or hate him, when he is on he is elite.
It's Dimma's and the other coaches job to make sure he is.
And when he is off he is putrid.Hot and freezing sums his career up . A career that spans 7 years. Hardwick has his work cut out for himself i would say.
He should fit right in.
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Good tackle on Chaplin in that last photo.
At least it was Yarran this time, he is pretty quick and a lot stronger than Nahas
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in order of importance
Rance
Riewoldt
Deledio
Cotchin
Martin
Yarran
:shh
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
Technically correct, but Conca came hack 13.55kg overweight and put in a different sole group
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
10 kg ?
Maybe 2
Thought he was recovering from hamstring not hamburger
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
10 kg ?
Maybe 2
Thought he was recovering from hamstring not hamburger
That's what one of the RFC personnel told me......
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
Told ya ;)
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Chris Yarran could be the key for Richmond in 2016, says David King
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
January 29, 2016
RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran is the key to unlocking the Tigers’ premiership potential this season, according to analyst David King.
Coach Damien Hardwick faces a major tactical conundrum in the final year of his contract, deciding whether to play with more dare or maintain faith in the Tigers’ go-slow tactics of last season.
The Tigers were one of the most cautious ball-users from Round 7 last season, averaging only 89 points per game in a style change that helped net 13 wins from the last 16 regular season matches.
But the scoring drop-off left Hardwick’s men almost two goals per game short of triple premiers Hawthorn and Grand Finalist West Coast.
According to Champion Data’s 2016 statistical bible “AFL Prospectus”, 15 of the past 16 flag-winners have averaged more than 100 points per match (save for Sydney in 2005), leaving a question mark over the Tigers’ ability to score enough to win finals.
The Tigers have lost the elimination final in each of the past three seasons.
But dual premiership backman David King said the addition of former Carlton linebreaker Yarran, 25, can be the difference for the Tigers in 2016.
“Yarran can almost be the Andrew McLeod-type across half-back for them,” King told the Herald Sun.
“Everyone has wanted to put the slows on Yarran, but it’s only now they have got him, (Bachar) Houli, Nick Vlastuin and maybe Dustin Martin coming off half-back.
“So now, they will be able to take some genuine risks with the ball back there.
“Given their personnel, Damien Hardwick would have been foolish to try to play at breakneck speed with the types of players he’s had down back in the past couple of seasons.
“He just hasn’t had that artillery.”
David King says Chris Yarran can almost be the “Andrew McLeod-type” for the Tigers across half back. Picture: Bohdan Warchomij
The Herald Sun revealed last week Yarran has endured an interrupted pre-season dealing with a niggling calf complaint.
However, the man Richmond exchanged pick No.19 for in last year’s trade period is tipped to play in the back end of the NAB series in a bid to be fit for the season-opener against his former side, Carlton.
King said the Yarran trade continued a smart recruiting strategy for Richmond, after passing up on new Fremantle speedster Harley Bennell.
The Tigers face Fremantle in their first NAB Challenge game in Mandurah on February 19, although Bennell is expected to miss with a calf problem.
“When you look at their list build they have done it well,” he said.
“Looking at their top-liners they are not far off.
“And they have learnt to become a stable club.”
Hardwick could sign a contract extension as early as next month after the club’s next board meeting.
But according to Champion Data’s AFL Prospectus, Hardwick still faces a challenging season, declaring that “teams in 2016 will be well-prepared to stop the Tigers’ crawl”.
The Tigers played on from only 26 per cent of their marks last season, ranked last in the competition.
“The concern is whether it will hold up in finals — a big question for a team that has been knocked out in the first round in each of their past three seasons,” the AFL Prospectus says.
The conservative game style meant Richmond conceded only 73 points per game to the opposition last season, their lowest since 1967.
Their games included the second least amount of scoring of any side.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-could-be-the-key-for-richmond-in-2016-says-david-king/news-story/072a1f66056e8d192cdc138463fb7241
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Soft tissue concerns have Tigers playing safe with Yarran
AFL.com.au
February 3, 2016
RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran remains a number of weeks away from joining his new teammates in full training as the club manages his return from a calf injury.
Yarran's first pre-season at Punt Road Oval has been interrupted by a number of soft tissue injuries and illness, and he was restricted to running at Wednesday's session.
The 25-year-old now appears unlikely to be unveiled until late in the NAB Challenge, with the Tigers preparing to take a young team to Perth in 15 days for their first pre-season game.
"Chris is settling in really well with the club and his new teammates, but has had some soft tissue injuries over the pre-season," football manager Dan Richardson told AFL.com.au.
"Our fitness staff are managing his program and training loads at the moment, and we hope he joins the main training group in a few weeks."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-03/soft-tissue-concerns-have-tigers-playing-safe-with-yarran
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Must get him up for round 1.
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Must ask the question though, how badly was his physical health managed at the Blues if this is the state he is in now? Also does that mean we actually do manage our players injuries better than we thought?
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Didn't he turn up to preseason a bit overweight
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Is being a lazy fat prick an illness?
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Just asking for a mate....
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Came back 10kg overweight. Must have really let himself go during the break. Is currently still paying the price.
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He has really trimmed down now, he's lookin good, should be ok for round 1.
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Are his Hands still on his hips?
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.....and his knees in tight?
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Let's do the Time Warp…….
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If he starts jumping to the left, stuff him off.
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Schwarz teed off at Yarran on SEN this morning.
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DAVID Schwarz has put the heat on new Richmond recruit Chris Yarran, questioning his fitness and saying the former Blue needs to work harder if he’s to resurrect his career.
Schwarz’s comments on radio on Thursday morning come as Carlton cast-offs Yarran and Shaun Hampson remain in doubt for the Round 1 clash against their old side, having not joined training with the main group.
Yarran (calf) and Hampson (ankle) have endured frustrating pre-seasons and remain on modified training programs only eight days out from the Tigers’ opening NAB Challenge.
But it was Yarran who Schwarz, speaking on SEN on Thursday, targeted.
The speedy utility, traded by the Blues for pick 19 in last year’s exchange period, has suffered a string of soft tissue injuries and remains well short of match fitness.
And Schwarz said the 25 year old needed to “pull his finger out” or risk his career continuing to plateau.
“I’m not saying Chris Yarran will be a disaster, but if he does not pull his finger out ... “ Schwarz said.
“You can’t turn up to pre-season a peppermint patty when you’re trying to prove yourself at a new club, that is a bloody good club that has got real strength all over the ground.
“He will fit in, but I will tell you now, he will play reserves footy all season, Richmond aren’t just going to gift him a game.
“At the moment he’s got a calf injury probably because he wasn’t fit enough when he arrived, not good enough.”
Schwarz said he’d seen players during his career fail to make the most of second chances.
“My fear is for a lot of players looking for a fresh start, because they’re not cutting it at one club, that they go to another club and think it’s just going to happen.
“They rock up and they think ‘yep, I’ve got a new jumper on, things are going to be different, they’ve wanted me, they’ve targeted me and they’ve come and got me’
“That doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to get a game, you’ve still got to work your tail off.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-recruits-shaun-hampson-and-chris-yarran-racing-the-clock-to-be-fit-for-round-1/news-story/15f0350e4a0faa88bb5eebffaf91d3a7
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We won't gift him a game?
Newman, Taylor Hunt, Steve Morris... Conca and Griffiths in the final....
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We won't gift him a game?
Newman, Taylor Hunt, Steve Morris... Conca and Griffiths in the final....
Makes me cringe just thinking about those 5 players. Plus the "stage fright" version of Cotch.
I really expected a super committed and energized Yaz. Seems a long way off that at the moment.
Honestly don't think we will rush him though, wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him till mid year.
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Wont play all year, the world is ending...AAaarrrgghhhh!!
It's still February isn't it??
Maybe wait until he plays a game Scwhwarter!!
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Dud, delist.
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We will gift him games cause he's significantly more talented than our bottom six
Bet on it david
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He WILL play dreamtime @ the G.
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He WILL play dreamtime @ the G.
Why?
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Don't be racist mate
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He WILL play dreamtime @ the G.
Already penciled in as Rioli's debut.... :shh
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Unlikely to play round 1 according to the podcast on the RFC website. They said Yarran is now over his calf problem and he now needs to get more preseason work in.
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Damn. Really wanted to see him at the G for that game.
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Is apparently on the Rhelton Roberts carb diet.
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Unlikely to play round 1 according to the podcast on the RFC website. They said Yarran is now over his calf problem and he now needs to get more preseason work in.
Was the 'calf problem' that he ate too much calf in the off season? Heard he's partial to a fillet Mignon or 100 the Yazzster
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We need him fit soon. Hopefully not too far away.
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KB just said he's hearing Yarran won't play until rounds 4-5.
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KB just said he's hearing Yarran won't play until rounds 4-5.
divide that by the KB wanker factor & 1-2 might be about right :)
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Tiger recruit's debut months away, says coach
AFL.com.au
February 17, 2016
CHRIS Yarran is unlikely to make his Richmond debut until after round six.
The former Blue is yet to join in full training at Richmond as he battles calf problems.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick conceded it was unlikely Yarran would play senior football until the 'second third of the year'.
The delayed start means Yarran will miss his new club's clash with his old club in round one.
Hardwick said he was more concerned about his star recruit's fitness at the end of the season.
"He's probably not going to be ready for the start but he'll be there when the whips are cracking," he said on Wednesday ahead of his club's NAB Challenge date with Fremantle.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-17/chris-yarran-wont-be-seen-in-tiger-colours-any-time-soon-hardwick
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The footy live app has him out for the year
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pathetic
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Small fish
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What a opportunity for one of our other newbies to step up and have a crack.
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Pick 20 would've been fit & ready to go..... :shh
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Pick 20 would've been fit & ready to go..... :shh
It became pick 23.
Such a nonsensical statement. You don't trade or draft for who will be ready rnd 1.
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I agree - you trade & draft for who will be ready for the first pre-season match....not for blokes who maybe might be ready by round 6...
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Pick 20 would've been fit & ready to go..... :shh
It became pick 23.
Such a nonsensical statement.
yerp... cause dimma in all his wisdom continued trying to draft guys at @12 that were going elsewhere
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I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
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Needed a second half impact player - more astute recruiting from Moneyblair.... :shh
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Needed a second half impact player - more astute recruiting from Moneyblair.... :shh
after we are 2-10, we should be primed to make a run at 8th
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Where's with LMAO?
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I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
I thought he was out there running with the rehab group today. Strange, if he has a 12 week injury, that he is able to run at this point in time.....
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I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
I thought he was out there running with the rehab group today. Strange, if he has a 12 week injury, that he is able to run at this point in time.....
Strange if he'd be running at all
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I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
I thought he was out there running with the rehab group today. Strange, if he has a 12 week injury, that he is able to run at this point in time.....
Strange if he'd be running at all
I'll find out more in a couple of weeks Dooks and I'll pm you. ;)
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I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
I thought he was out there running with the rehab group today. Strange, if he has a 12 week injury, that he is able to run at this point in time.....
Was running laps today. Though I'd call ot more of a jog than actual running
With it being a calf injury acthally no surprise that it could take many weeks. If it was a bad tear rather than a strain, then yep they need to be super cautious
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
That's the only option now....Pre existing injury I feel. :facepalm
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He'll be like a new recruit in the 2nd 3rd of the year :shh
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
That's the only option now....Pre existing injury I feel. :facepalm
Ia said it earlier, look at Menzel, he is struggling too. Must have been a very poor culture at the Blues regarding fitness and player management.
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
That's the only option now....Pre existing injury I feel. :facepalm
Ia said it earlier, look at Menzel, he is struggling too. Must have been a very poor culture at the Blues regarding fitness and player management.
Good point, Menzel has been banished to train with the Crows SANFL side
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Good to come out and say he's out for 12 weeks, takes the focus off him and we can get him right.
If we keep saying he's a couple weeks away, then questions will keep getting asked about him.
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There'll be no getting him right.
He has sealed his fate by being and showing us he's a lazy prick with an entitlement complex.
stuff off Chris, u stuffn Shitman
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
That's the only option now....Pre existing injury I feel. :facepalm
Ia said it earlier, look at Menzel, he is struggling too. Must have been a very poor culture at the Blues regarding fitness and player management.
Good point, Menzel has been banished to train with the Crows SANFL side
Goes to show how far off Buttifant is now with the level of fitness that's required.
Let's hope the suspended Essendon players get him to keep them fit then none of them will be playing next year.
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Bloody disappointed but better to manage him. Could be very handy come round 7!!!!
That's the only option now....Pre existing injury I feel. :facepalm
Ia said it earlier, look at Menzel, he is struggling too. Must have been a very poor culture at the Blues regarding fitness and player management.
Good point, Menzel has been banished to train with the Crows SANFL side
Goes to show how far off Buttifant is now with the level of fitness that's required.
Let's hope the suspended Essendon players get him to keep them fit then none of them will be playing next year.
Errr no
Buttifant went with Malthouse
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Good to come out and say he's out for 12 weeks, takes the focus off him and we can get him right.
If we keep saying he's a couple weeks away, then questions will keep getting asked about him.
Definitely a pleasant change from our injury reports of the last few years with bloke constantly 1-2 weeks away.
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Dr Peter Larkins says signs aren't good for Richmond recruit Chris Yarran
Jake Bourke
3aw
February 18, 2016
Richmond recruit Chris Yarran has been called into question over his lack of fitness and body condition.
The former Carlton livewire has been battling calf and fitness issues since joining the Tigers, with the club confirming he was likely to miss the first third of season 2016.
Richmond gave up pick 19 in last year's draft for the talented speedster, but Yarran is yet to join his new teammates in full training.
He cut a forlorn figure at Punt Road on Wednesday and football's leading medical voice, Dr Peter Larkins, told 3AW it wasn't a good sign.
"Hamstring or calf injuries in January or February are an absolute no-no, in terms of where it takes you for the rest of the year," he said on Sports Today.
And while his calf injury has understandably curbed Yarran's ability to run, Dr Larkins said it was no real excuse to be in poor shape.
"If you have a soft tissue injury that means you can't run, you have to really work hard to maintain skinfolds and cardiovascular fitness in other ways," he explained.
"That's been traditionally available to players for a long time."
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/dr-peter-larkins-says-signs-arent-good-for-chris-yarran-20160217-gmwtzx.html
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Hopeless...
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Every cloud has a silver lining
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Just wheel him out for the GF, Stewy Dew style.
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I guess he has depression too.
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I guess he has depression too.
Most of us would have that if we played for Carlton vintage 2015. :whistle
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I got it from watching the Richmond Carlton final
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I guess he has depression too.
Most of us would have that if we played for Carlton vintage 2015. :whistle
Only to escape to punt road
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Inside word from the club:
Turned up fat and unfit. Never seen a recruit less interested in making a good impression.
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Came back 10kg over his playing weight and hence has had to be in the special conditioning group of players. The group contains just one player, him..... :shh
Bump
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Apparently he is a barge arse
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Champion Data has Yarran as an elite kick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-20/who-is-the-best-kick-in-the-afl-the-results-may-surprise-you
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I hope Chris worls out Ok, maybe we shpuld have taken mitch robinson last year?
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Instead of Taylor Hunt? Definitely....
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Houli backs Yarran to be shock starter
Herald-Sun
March 5, 2016
PRIZED Richmond recruit Chris Yarran is recovering from a calf injury faster than expected and one teammate says he could be a shock starter in the season-opener against Carlton on March 24.
Yarran rejoined the main training group on Thursday and is tipped to play in the Tigers’ final NAB Challenge game, against Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium next Thursday night.
“Chris will most likely play a part of NAB 3 and a little bit of the intra-club the final week and be ready for Round 1,” teammate Bachar Houli told the Herald Sun yesterday.
“I think he can play (Round 1). He fully trained, it was a solid session and he pulled up fine from that, which is great.”
Despite Houli’s optimism, it remains likely the Tigers will take a conservative approach with their high-profile recruit and leave him out of the early rounds as he builds fitness.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said last month he didn’t expect Yarran to play senior football until about Round 7.
Houli, speaking at a Docklands launch for Goodlife Health Clubs, the AFL’s diversity partner, said Yarran, recruited as his partner in crime running off half-back, was making strong progress.
“We’ve had some really good lunches and really good chats,” Houli said.
“He just kicks it so fantastically and he’s smart. Every time we transition the ball from the backline and we are both involved, I look at him and I just smile.
“I say, ‘This is us, bro. This is us this year’. We’re just trying to give him the confidence to say that we really, really need you this year.
Chris Yarran’s recovery from a calf injury is going faster than expected. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
“We just needed more flair and speedy drive from the backline and we feel like he’s got that. I’m not the quickest person. I can break a line or two and take half a bounce and I’m probably caught. But with Chris, if you give him the ball you are confident he will do something special.
“I’m really looking forward to his presence.”
Houli said the Tigers had tinkered slightly with their game plan over summer.
“We’ve focused on some key areas where we need to improve in order to take the next step,” he said.
“We’ve had to focus on our centre-back transition. We were just lacking a bit in that area and the other one is getting more inside 50s.
“From the Yarran perspective, the club felt we needed extra drive out of the backline.
“Previously we have had Brett Deledio, Chris Newman and myself play that role but over the last probably year or two we have kind of lacked that a little bit.
“There’s a massive buzz around the club. Every club will say at this time of the year that we’ve got so much belief ... but we’ve had a really solid and enjoyable pre-season and we feel like we’ve achieved what we wanted to achieve.
“Now we’ve just got to put it into practice.”
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1e3c4322708ac70c73707fbd240fbae1?width=650)
Chris Yarran, running laps with Brett Deledio, has fitted in at the Tigers. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e85319ec328f9748d4106129c2417937?width=650)
Chris Yarran’s recovery from a calf injury is going faster than expected. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-yarran-on-track-for-shock-round-1-inclusion-says-bachar-houli/news-story/764efafaac55257b1ef62345200cbe0e
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Really........bloody hell, how good would that be :clapping
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Yarran on the run: shock return on the cards?
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
March 6, 2016 11:52 AM
RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran has backed up claims of a shock early return from injury, showcasing his improved fitness with a strong training run on Sunday morning.
Yarran was all but ruled out for the first third of the season just three weeks ago by coach Damien Hardwick, but his touch at Punt Road Oval suggested otherwise.
Teammate Bachar Houli has even suggested Yarran could return for the Tigers' blockbuster season opener against his former club Carlton in just 18 days.
That remains unlikely, given Hardwick's firm stance that the Tigers would not rush Yarran back until he had done the required work to play, but he has clearly made quick progress in the past three weeks.
On Sunday, Yarran completed the full 90-minute training session at Punt Road Oval, moving well and receiving no special treatment for his troubled calf, which he injured twice over the summer.
He kicked well on both feet, took part in all agility work and tackling and wasn't protected from any contact drills.
Star teammate Jack Riewoldt said the 25-year-old had also made strong progress with his physical conditioning.
"At the moment he's tracking along nicely; he's doing a lot of extra hard work just to catch up," Riewoldt said after training on Sunday.
"He's got behind unfortunately just because he's had a couple of niggling calf injuries, but he's on top of those at the moment and he's looking really fit.
"I'd love to see him out there as soon as possible, but we'll do what's best for Chris and his body.
"There's no point rushing him back for round one or two or whenever."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-06/yarran-on-the-run-is-shock-return-on-the-cards
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Training highlights of Yarran from the other day:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-04/training-highlights-yarran
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Training highlights of Yarran from the other day:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-04/training-highlights-yarran
:lol even I'd look great in slow motion :lol
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Yarran's track form forces Tigers to reconsider round one
AFL.com.au
March 7, 2016
A STRONG push from Chris Yarran over the past two weeks has forced Richmond to step away from its lengthy timeline for his return, putting the prized recruit back in the frame to play early this season.
Yarran, who is returning from two calf injuries over the summer, was initially expected to miss the first seven rounds when coach Damien Hardwick ruled him out for the first third of the season.
But his form in an extended training run on Sunday has fuelled suggestions he could even play in the Tigers' season opener against his old club Carlton.
Football manager Dan Richardson said there was no timeline now for the 25-year-old's return, but the club was encouraged by his progress.
"We're happy with the work rate and the effort he's displaying at the moment," Richardson told AFL.com.au.
"That's what we want to see and where that takes him we'll see."
Yarran backed up the optimism for an early return in Sunday's 90-minute session, completing all training and then topping up with extra running at Punt Road Oval.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-07/yarrans-track-form-forces-tigers-to-reconsider-round-one
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On SEN, they had Dimma's press conference and he said Yarran has really come on in the last couple of weeks and we've been able to lift his training/running loads. He's still lacking match practice, so match committee today will decide whether he comes straight into NAB3 and we give him some gametime, or he plays in our VFL side's practice match on Thursday. Yarran will most likely play seniors proper early in the season.
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On SEN, they had Dimma's press conference and he said Yarran has really come on in the last couple of weeks and we've been able to lift his training/running loads. He's still lacking match practice, so match committee today will decide whether he comes straight into NAB3 and we give him some gametime, or he plays in our VFL side's practice match on Thursday. Yarran will most likely play seniors proper early in the season.
So is there a VFL practice game this Thursday ???, first one was supposed tpo be March 18 v Geelong @ PRO
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On SEN, they had Dimma's press conference and he said Yarran has really come on in the last couple of weeks and we've been able to lift his training/running loads. He's still lacking match practice, so match committee today will decide whether he comes straight into NAB3 and we give him some gametime, or he plays in our VFL side's practice match on Thursday. Yarran will most likely play seniors proper early in the season.
So is there a VFL practice game this Thursday ???, first one was supposed tpo be March 18 v Geelong @ PRO
taz, I didn't think our VFL side had one either until March 18, but that's what Dimma said.
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On SEN, they had Dimma's press conference and he said Yarran has really come on in the last couple of weeks and we've been able to lift his training/running loads. He's still lacking match practice, so match committee today will decide whether he comes straight into NAB3 and we give him some gametime, or he plays in our VFL side's practice match on Thursday. Yarran will most likely play seniors proper early in the season.
So is there a VFL practice game this Thursday ???, first one was supposed tpo be March 18 v Geelong @ PRO
cheers, hopefully somenone can confirm
taz, I didn't think our VFL side had one either until March 18, but that's what Dimma said.
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Maybe it's an intra club? Though they wouldn't have enough players to field two sides? Could be a scratch match v another club?
More likely 7 of 9's just got his wires crossed.....
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Intra club at 5:30
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Intra club at 5:30
5.30 Thursday this week ?
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Intra club at 5:30
5.30 Thursday this week ?
Yep
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Intra club at 5:30
5.30 Thursday this week ?
Yep
ta
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Instead of Taylor Hunt? Definitely....
agree.
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Intraclub: Yarran
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-10/intraclub-yarran
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Richmond recruit Chris Yarran is expected to run around with the Tigers VFL team for the second week in a row.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-17/geelong-captain-joel-selwood-to-have-vfl-hit-out-on-friday
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Yarran having a minor foot op according to RFC website
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Yarran having a minor foot op according to RFC website
Yep. Six weeks off... :rollin
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Gee Wiz,not good. Was looking forward to him playing next week.
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Yarran to undergo minor surgery
richmondfc.com.au
March 17, 2016 3:42 PM
Richmond recruit Chris Yarran will have a delayed start to the 2016 AFL season, requiring minor surgery to repair the plantar fascia tissue in his left foot.
Yarran has managed the injury in recent seasons, however after scans and advice from the Club’s medical staff this week, the Club decided that the minor surgery will help the running defender reach 100 per cent fitness.
Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson said while it’s disappointing for Yarran, both he and the Club believe the minor surgery is the best option moving forward.
“Chris has worked extremely hard on his fitness over the pre-season,” Richardson said.
“While this is a setback following a solid block of training over the past month in particular, the positive is that the surgery has a high success rate, and we look forward to Chris playing his best football for us once he fully recovers.
“At this stage, we expect this to be a six-week injury, but we’ll await further medical advice post-surgery.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-17/yarran-to-undergo-minor-surgery
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Yarran has managed the injury in recent seasons, however after scans and advice from the Club’s medical staff this week, the Club decided that the minor surgery will help the running defender reach 100 per cent fitness.
Recent seasons....so why wait until now....5 months after we recruited him and a week out from round one?
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I just don't fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff well believe this... :banghead
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It is a repetitive strain injury so I guess it didn't help when he came back 10kg over his playing weight. That would have made it flair up together with the harder training that he has been doing to get back to playing.
So in hindsight it was poor management but you do not normally operate on mild cases of these because the possible complications of surgery outweigh the benefit of the procedure. And when he joined it was not a major concern.
Probably just bad luck unfortunately for us. :banghead
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Well I suppose we can look forward to him topping up would should already be a finals side when he returns.
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Who else have we got who can replace his 10 or so possessions
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Who else have we got who can replace his 10 or so possessions
Batchelor.
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Benny Gale talking about Yarran today ...
Gale said his understanding was the 25-year-old, who was traded to the Tigers for pick 19 in last year's draft, didn't arrive at Punt Road with the foot complaint and didn't aggravate the issue by pushing to be fit for an unlikely round one debut.
Yarran played 45 minutes in a practice match last week and completed extra training afterwards in his bid to regain match fitness after a niggling calf complaint.
"It evolved over a few weeks, so it wasn't one specific incident," Gale said of Yarran's foot injury.
"Chris didn't come back at the start of pre-season as prepared as we would've liked, and we addressed that.
"He finally got in a position where he was engaging in full training, and had been for about four-to-six weeks, and had been looking very, very good.
"But at the same time this particular injury grumbled and gradually got worse."
Yarran played 119 games for the Blues before off-field issues and indifferent form prompted him to seek out a fresh start, and Gale felt for the speedster following his latest setback.
"There's nothing worse than being injured at a footy club and in the rehab group," Gale said.
"You feel disengaged and isolated … particularly when you come to a new club. You want to get involved and get out there amongst it and Chris hasn't been able to do either really until the last few weeks."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-18/shane-edwards-on-track-for-blues-opener
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Greg Denham intimated he's not out bc of the foot, it's something more sinister and will be longer.
It is Denham so take it with a grain of salt
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Denhams a stuffwit , once said Cambo was odds on to coach RFC, next day said he declared , wasn't interested :lol. He makes up his material and plagerises the rest :shh
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Chris Yarran was overweight when he joined Richmond
Jon Ralph
Sunday Herald Sun
March 19, 2016 8:00pm
RICHMOND conceded on Friday Chris Yarran hadn’t arrived at the club in a satisfactory state for pre-season training.
Plenty of figures have been bandied around but the one from inside the club is that he was 7kg overweight when he rocked up.
He had worked hard to get back into shape, his Round 1 hopes shattered by a case of plantar fascia that needs surgery. But the Tigers believe his commitment to training — finally — will give him a chance to be a weapon later in the year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/sunday-score-chris-yarran-was-overweight-when-he-joined-richmond/news-story/c700a1926825e32e7e1b2a949dab9fc7
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Yarran faces fitness battle after presenting for pre-season in poor condition
AFL.com.au
March 20, 2016
RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran faces a challenge to maintain fitness as he recovers from an injured foot, after he returned from the off-season in poor condition.
The Tigers traded for Yarran at the end of last year for pick No. 19 in the 2015 NAB AFL Draft.
Yarran, 25, is known for playing exhilarating football when in form but has been criticised for looking uninterested at times.
He will have surgery early next week for plantar fascia tissue damage in his left foot and is not expected to play until round six at the earliest.
"I wasn't actually at the club at the time he came back, but I heard through the grapevine something along those lines (that he was unfit)," defender Alex Rance said.
"Everyone knows their expectations when they come back. We've got targets that we set.
"He's got himself in some reasonable nick and it's just unfortunate that he's had a few calf injuries that held him back.
"Hopefully as soon as he recovers from this operation he'll be right to go."
Persistent calf issues have hampered Yarran's pre-season. He was limited to 45 minutes of game time for the whole pre-season, which came in a VFL intra-club match.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-20/yarran-faces-fitness-battle-after-presenting-for-preseason-in-poor-condition
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Let's suppose for a moment that Yazza will return in round 6
What happens if the Tigers are traveling really well, say won 5 out of 6 games, and all players have earned their place in the team (yeah I know it's a big if, but still possible).
Does Yarran automatically get a shot in the team just because he was somewhat of a big name recruit.
I say no, and I am not yet convinced he is worthy.
Hopefully he goes back through the magoos to earn a place and I personally want to see results there for a few weeks first.
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Let's suppose for a moment that Yazza will return in round 6
What happens if the Tigers are traveling really well, say won 5 out of 6 games, and all players have earned their place in the team (yeah I know it's a big if, but still possible).
Does Yarran automatically get a shot in the team just because he was somewhat of a big name recruit.
I say no, and I am not yet convinced he is worthy.
Hopefully he goes back through the magoos to earn a place and I personally want to see results there for a few weeks first.
Lets get there first.. :snidegrin
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Let's suppose for a moment that Yazza will return in round 6
What happens if the Tigers are traveling really well, say won 5 out of 6 games, and all players have earned their place in the team (yeah I know it's a big if, but still possible).
Does Yarran automatically get a shot in the team just because he was somewhat of a big name recruit.
I say no, and I am not yet convinced he is worthy.
Hopefully he goes back through the magoos to earn a place and I personally want to see results there for a few weeks first.
Lets get there first.. :snidegrin
Oh we'll get there, don't you worry about that :thumbsup
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Yarran ‘his own worst enemy’: Malthouse
Herald-Sun
March 22, 2016
FORMER Carlton coach Mick Malthouse has given an insight into Richmond recruit Chris Yarran’s injury struggles — and it’s not glowing.
Yarran’s latest setback is a foot injury, which follows a pre-season of persistent calf issues after being traded from Carlton last October.
Malthouse, who coached Yarran in 47 games at the Blues, questioned the elusive defender’s dedication to football.
“Chris can be his own worst enemy,” Malthouse told SEN.
“If he goes away he doesn’t quite have that knack of being a great professional in regards to coming back and being ready to play. He’s a lovely kid but he does need to be ridden.
“I’m sure that Richmond will find out that you just have to be patient with him but also pretty firm with him. You had to keep the foot on Chris for a long time to make sure he doesn’t blow out.”
Yarran’s tendency to go from one injury to another is a pattern rather than an anomaly, according to Malthouse, who was also quick to point out his association with Yarran ended last May.
“Chris has problems,” the former Footscray, West Coast, Collingwood and Carlton coach said.
“He’s been up and down right through the career I had with him at Carlton. He is explosive by nature so therefore he is a fast-twitch athlete. Everything is about power and speed. His endurance was always one that struggled.
“I remember preparing for Carlton a number of times and he wasn’t available because he gets minor strains in the calf, quad and hamstring. It pulls him back and he loses so much condition so quickly.”
However Malthouse stopped short of calling the 25-year-old soft or weak, insisting his problems stem from a deeply embedded physical predisposition that is not unusual for quick-twitch athletes such as Yarran.
“He’ll fight back,” he said.
“He’s not one to throw the towel in, but his body lets him down regularly. I think he’s got one of the body’s which is a fine edge one. We’ve seen regularly with some athletes, that they can’t sustain that power. When they try to, inevitably something takes place.”
Yarran will not be available for selection at Richmond until at least Round 6.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/mick-malthouse-says-injured-richmond-tiger-chris-yarran-has-deeply-embedded-injury-concerns/news-story/cfe358f033eb60cfae2e258ac130212b
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Malthouse dig doesn't faze injured Tiger Yarran
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
March 22, 2016
RICHMOND recruit Chris Yarran has shrugged off criticism of his physical condition this pre-season after being labelled "his own worst enemy" by former coach Mick Malthouse.
Yarran underwent successful foot surgery on Monday after a horror pre-season that has been interrupted twice by calf strains.
Malthouse questioned Yarran's dedication on Tuesday morning, saying he "hasn’t quite got that knack of being a great professional in regards to coming back and being ready to play".
Yarran said he was not fazed by the intense scrutiny he had been under since crossing from the Blues to Richmond during last year's NAB AFL Trade Period.
"I don't pay too much attention to it to be honest … everyone's got different opinions about it," he said at Punt Road Oval on Tuesday.
"At the end of the day, the only people that matter are my close friends and teammates.
"I'm always happy with my shape."
Yarran suffered a right calf strain at the end of last season with Carlton and two further calf injuries over the pre-season prevented him from gaining any ground with his new club.
The Tigers were pleased with his work rate through late February and early March to get himself in a position to play practice matches, but his latest foot injury ended that momentum.
It is not clear if the plantar fascia injury, which is to his left foot, is related to the calf troubles Yarran has had over the summer.
As Carlton coach, Malthouse said he had to "keep the foot on Yarran" to maintain his fitness levels, but frequent soft tissue strains meant the half-back regularly lost conditioning.
"Chris can sometimes be his worst enemy," Malthouse told SEN.
"If he goes away for any length … he just probably hasn’t quite got that knack of being a great professional in regards to coming back and being ready to play.
"You have to really ride him a bit. He’s a lovely kid but he does need to be ridden, and I’m sure that Richmond will find out that you just have to be patient with him, one, but pretty firm with him, certainly."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-22/malthouse-dig-doesnt-faze-injured-tiger-yarran
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Lmfao.
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Oompa loompa doompety doo
I've got a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me
What do you get when you guzzle down sweets
Eating as much as an elephant eats
What are you at, getting terribly fat
What do you think will come of that
I don't like the look of it
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Hardwick said that although Yarran did not come to Richmond in peak fitness, there were reasons behind that.
"He probably didn't come in with the best conditioning. Chris knows that. He's responsible for that," he said.
"The thing that we didn't probably realise was that he's been having some plantar fasciitis … over a little bit of time. We didn't realise the serious nature of it until we went and had a pretty significant scan.
"His training capacity has been reduced because of it, so he hasn't been able to train at AFL intensity."
Yarran had foot surgery to fix the issue and is not expected to play for another five weeks.
The Blues traded Yarran, 25, at the end of last season to Richmond for draft pick No. 19.
He struggled with a calf injury throughout the pre-season and didn't play in the NAB Challenge. The extent of his football in Richmond colours was 45 minutes in a VFL intraclub match.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-26/tigers-injury-woes-grow-midfielder-shane-edwards-fractures-hand
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We basically bought a second hand car without a roadworthy certificate. Surely these sort of injury conditions should have been picked up by a combination of extensive medical/fitness tests and a thorough interview with Yarran himself?
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As long as he s fit for the business end of the year , he will be a weapon, :shh
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Morris is awful
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As long as he s fit for the business end of the year , he will be a weapon, :shh
#richmondexcuses
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I think yesterdays rub on mmm was interesting. I was driving and they had a tell me something i dont know part of the show. Not sure who it was but they said that yarran most likely wont play this year. He isnt respected at all by the playing group and when the going gets tough he finds ways to get into the gym.
I cant find the link. But if this is true what a waste of a pick. I actually have been on his side and cant wait til he gets in the side. But if you keep hearing these kind of things then things are going to end well.
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I think yesterdays rub on mmm was interesting. I was driving and they had a tell me something i dont know part of the show. Not sure who it was but they said that yarran most likely wont play this year. He isnt respected at all by the playing group and when the going gets tough he finds ways to get into the gym.
I cant find the link. But if this is true what a waste of a pick. I actually have been on his side and cant wait til he gets in the side. But if you keep hearing these kind of things then things are going to end well.
Would think this so called story of MMM is a load of crap TBBH
But if you want to believe it..well... good for you or anyone else for that matter
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I think yesterdays rub on mmm was interesting. I was driving and they had a tell me something i dont know part of the show. Not sure who it was but they said that yarran most likely wont play this year. He isnt respected at all by the playing group and when the going gets tough he finds ways to get into the gym.
I cant find the link. But if this is true what a waste of a pick. I actually have been on his side and cant wait til he gets in the side. But if you keep hearing these kind of things then things are going to end well.
Would think this so called story of MMM is a load of crap TBBH
But if you want to believe it..well... good for you or anyone else for that matter
Only time will tell
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Bump
I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
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Bump
I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
Look at me, look at me.
:lol
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Bump
I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
Look at me, look at me.
:lol
Why would I look at you?
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No thanks, 65 .........
Anyway.Yarran will be the Justin Blumfield of 2016.
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Bump
I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
Look at me, look at me.
:lol
Why would I look at you?
My first laugh for the day.
:lol
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He's shooting up the charts and hasn't played yet FMD
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Just think , we could have got Havey Bennell too and I read he's struggling to get on the park
We have to be patient with Yaz because we haven't got a choice really
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Just think , we could have got Havey Bennell too and I read he's struggling to get on the park
We have to be patient with Yaz because we haven't got a choice really
Yep Ch7 news said Bennell is likely out for the first half of the season, serious calf problem that is not responding to treatment
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Foot surgery to help Yarran long-term
Herald-Sun
12 April 2016
CHRIS Yarran’s foot surgery will finally enable the silky playmaker to train and play at AFL intensity upon his return next month, according to Richmond.
The former Carlton utility is on track to return to senior action in 4-6 weeks after surgery on a serious foot problem that prevented Yarran from training at full capacity.
Coach Damien Hardwick has vowed to be bold at selection in coming weeks to help develop the Tigers’ prized young talent, saying “we don’t want to make up the numbers” in September after three-straight failed finals campaigns.
Hardwick admitted he was disappointed Yarran arrived for pre-season training out of shape but was adamant the damaging ball-user would be a valuable long-term addition.
Richmond handed over pick No. 19 for Yarran in last year’s trade period, which the Blues used on untried speedster David Cuningham.
“To be frank, the best thing that happened to him (Yarran) is this foot operation,” Hardwick said.
“It (the foot injury) hasn’t allowed him to train at anywhere near AFL levels which has reflected his performance over the last year-and-a-half at Carlton.
“We are really excited by the prospect we have had the opportunity to get the operation done and he is starting to run now (at training).
“We are really excited that when he comes back into the team, he is going to be able to play at AFL intensity and I think we are going to see the best of a very good player.”
Yarran was hampered by minor foot problems during his last year at Carlton.
Hardwick said Yarran’s physical condition at the start of preseason training was not ideal.
He attempted to ramp up his fitness early in the summer but was subsequently soon hit by a calf problem, derailing him further.
“We were disappointed with the condition Chris came back in, but we were also there to help him and make sure we get his best football out of him,” Hardwick said.
“He has got a long career ahead of him at Richmond and the important thing for us is to make him feel welcome and part of the place.”
Hardwick said the club had learnt valuable lessons in recent years and would maintain its faith in youngsters such as Corey Ellis, Ben Lennon and Daniel Rioli.
“We are going to be a little bit brave with our decision making and with selection in match committee and whilst we may have to take a little bit of heartburn, I certainly think in weeks to come you will see us move forward,” he said.
Brett Deledio is still a few weeks away from overcoming a quad setback.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/chris-yarrans-foot-surgery-will-allow-him-to-train-and-play-at-afl-intensity/news-story/38777770ad9864c9e89b302d012073a2
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Waste of draft pick and the club can cover it up how they like rocked up to preseason unfit and football department have no idea.
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Waste of draft pick and the club can cover it up how they like rocked up to preseason unfit and football department have no idea.
While it would seem so (a waste) it is still too early to tell. I still hold out hope that he will add a lot to the team once he is fit and firing. He is a footballer of immense talent but his problem has always been one of consistency and getting his head (and foot it seems) in the right place. I don't think we'll see his best till next year though, assuming he can have a full preseason. After giving away what we did, we need to back this boy to the hilt or it WILL be a complete waste.
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Waste of draft pick and the club can cover it up how they like rocked up to preseason unfit and football department have no idea.
100% agree.
If we were going to trade for a player who can't play we should've picked up Trengrove, at least he's a decent kid.
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What's charlie Dixon up to ?
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I think Yarran coming into the side is the only thing we have to look forward to in the coming weeks, it sure as hell isn't the brand of footy or the results we will be happy with.
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I think Yarran coming into the side is the only thing we have to look forward to in the coming weeks, it sure as hell isn't the brand of footy or the results we will be happy with.
Having Deledio and Maric return is what I am looking forward to.
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I think Yarran coming into the side is the only thing we have to look forward to in the coming weeks, it sure as hell isn't the brand of footy or the results we will be happy with.
Having Deledio and Maric return is what I am looking forward to.
They won't save this team and again why do we have to rely on two players. I'm only looking forward to seeing Yarran come back in and do well but I don't think that him coming into the side will be any reason our skill level will improve. or the stupid decision making or the rest of the crap we have been dishing up.
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I think Yarran coming into the side is the only thing we have to look forward to in the coming weeks, it sure as hell isn't the brand of footy or the results we will be happy with.
Having Deledio and Maric return is what I am looking forward to.
They won't save this team and again why do we have to rely on two players. I'm only looking forward to seeing Yarran come back in and do well but I don't think that him coming into the side will be any reason our skill level will improve. or the stupid decision making or the rest of the crap we have been dishing up.
History will suggest that lids and ivvy do drastically increase our chances of winning, it shouldn't be that way but it is.
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I think Yarran coming into the side is the only thing we have to look forward to in the coming weeks, it sure as hell isn't the brand of footy or the results we will be happy with.
Having Deledio and Maric return is what I am looking forward to.
They won't save this team and again why do we have to rely on two players. I'm only looking forward to seeing Yarran come back in and do well but I don't think that him coming into the side will be any reason our skill level will improve. or the stupid decision making or the rest of the crap we have been dishing up.
History will suggest that lids and ivvy do drastically increase our chances of winning, it shouldn't be that way but it is.
Yes I realise that and therein lies our problem.
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Waste of draft pick and the club can cover it up how they like rocked up to preseason unfit and football department have no idea.
Meh, with the Yarran pick we would have selected;
a) Slow back pocket rated as a 3rd rounder by most, that we'll try to turn into a midfielder;
b) A key forward who can't mark, kick and is soft; or
c) A re-tread delisted by another club without even playing a game, we'll all see his highlights and think he might be a diamond in the rough, but he's just another Nathan Gordon
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We would've drafted Josh Dunkley.
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Chris Yarran running laps in Perth, looking a lot fitter. #afleaglestigers #afl
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/AaronBryans/status/720530572062416896
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He still looks Conca-ish
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according to Tim Watson goneski for the year
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Tim who?
The guy who still thinks the bombers are innocent yeah?
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huh?
I also think greg denham is a douche but prior to rnd 1 he made the call that yarran wouldnt play before rnd 12 and there was a good chance he wouldnt play this year. Regardless of what you think of Tim, there are too many whispers - where there is smoke there is fire. We cocked this one up bigtime, heads need to roll
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He has no interest in playing at RIchmond.
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Tim Watson said Richmond can't put a return date for Yarran (at AFL or VFL level) after initially saying he would be back playing by Round 7.
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Just saying not playing prior to x round is a lot different to not playing at all this year.
No doubt we screwed up big time, but I wouldn't listen to Timothy all that much
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Bump ;)
I have it on good authority that out for 'the first third of the season' is more like 'out until the second half of the season'.
12 week injury. Bookmark it.
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:help
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You know something
Chris Yarran is a really good footballer at his best
Club took a gamble
Didn't work out this year
Rance thinks he will be a star for what it's worth
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:banghead :banghead
SNIP
:banghead :banghead
Stick the topic without the cheap shots
Batter up....
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The guy got injured.
Maybe he could have come back in better shape but he still could have got injured.
The guy picked us as his club of choice, and that is more than I can say for other arseholes.
I'm peeed off at how this club has recruited over a long period but this decision to get Yarran was a good one.
I'm looking forward to seeing him taking the game on off half back. With Rance and Grimes it will be a pretty decent backline, add Hurley and it could potentially be a great backline.
Everything going well when he returns, he will be up there with our best 6 or 7 players.
Pick 19 was fair for a player of his caliber.
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Go the OER!!!
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The guy got injured.
Maybe he could have come back in better shape but he still could have got injured.
The guy picked us as his club of choice, and that is more than I can say for other behindholes.
I'm peeed off at how this club has recruited over a long period but this decision to get Yarran was a good one.
I'm looking forward to seeing him taking the game on off half back. With Rance and Grimes it will be a pretty decent backline, add Hurley and it could potentially be a great backline.
Everything going well when he returns, he will be up there with our best 6 or 7 players.
Pick 19 was fair for a player of his caliber.
Agree
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The guy got injured.
Maybe he could have come back in better shape but he still could have got injured.
The guy picked us as his club of choice, and that is more than I can say for other behindholes.
I'm peeed off at how this club has recruited over a long period but this decision to get Yarran was a good one.
I'm looking forward to seeing him taking the game on off half back. With Rance and Grimes it will be a pretty decent backline, add Hurley and it could potentially be a great backline.
Everything going well when he returns, he will be up there with our best 6 or 7 players.
Pick 19 was fair for a player of his caliber.
Wasn't it pick 19 and out second round pick this year?
It could end up being two pick 19's :whistle
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The guy got injured.
Maybe he could have come back in better shape but he still could have got injured.
The guy picked us as his club of choice, and that is more than I can say for other behindholes.
I'm peeed off at how this club has recruited over a long period but this decision to get Yarran was a good one.
I'm looking forward to seeing him taking the game on off half back. With Rance and Grimes it will be a pretty decent backline, add Hurley and it could potentially be a great backline.
Everything going well when he returns, he will be up there with our best 6 or 7 players.
Pick 19 was fair for a player of his caliber.
Wasn't it pick 19 and out second round pick this year?
It could end up being two pick 19's :whistle
Stuff me some people :facepalm
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The guy got injured.
Maybe he could have come back in better shape but he still could have got injured.
The guy picked us as his club of choice, and that is more than I can say for other behindholes.
I'm peeed off at how this club has recruited over a long period but this decision to get Yarran was a good one.
I'm looking forward to seeing him taking the game on off half back. With Rance and Grimes it will be a pretty decent backline, add Hurley and it could potentially be a great backline.
Everything going well when he returns, he will be up there with our best 6 or 7 players.
Pick 19 was fair for a player of his caliber.
Wasn't it pick 19 and out second round pick this year?
It could end up being two pick 19's :whistle
we traded 31 & next years 2nd rounder for 19
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lets hope the club never ventures into futures trading :whistle
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/tigers-finally-land-yarran-for-pick-19
thank stuff we held our nerve
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we traded 31 & next years 2nd rounder for 19
Which is this years second rounder isn't it?
Still, when we trade Lids, Martin and Tyrone we might get a few second rounders in return :whistle :whistle
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2nd rounders,? that does encompass a large range of pick values
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2nd rounders,? that does encompass a large range of pick values
Well, including the academy picks a seconder rounder is worth about pick 50 these days isn't it?
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yeah, ok then
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Are we allowed top up players to replace him?
If not why is drug cheated better than depression afl
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I assume we can terminate his THREE year contract ??
Do they afl give is the salary cap space back ????
Sorry to sound insensitive
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so do we know what is wrong with him?
I know what ive heard and i hope its not true
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The ultimate list clogger.
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When do we get top up players ?
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Sorry to sound insensitive
Don't be.
It's all a crock of poo that wouldn't otherwise be an acceptable excuse if not for the
Pathetic, politically correct world we now inhabit.
Meh and get over it.
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Sorry to sound insensitive
Don't be.
It's all a crock of poo that wouldn't otherwise be an acceptable excuse if not for the
Pathetic, politically correct world we now inhabit.
Meh and get over it.
Aka 'wp don't ban me man'
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I assume we can terminate his THREE year contract ??
Do they afl give is the salary cap space back ????
Sorry to sound insensitive
Can one of the inner circle knight answer my question
There is a clause yes ?
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no
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What's the word? I've heard nothing.
Can somebody please fill me in.
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What's the word? I've heard nothing.
Can somebody please fill me in.
Not good
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I assume we can terminate his THREE year contract ??
Do they afl give is the salary cap space back ????
Sorry to sound insensitive
Can one of the inner circle knight answer my question
There is a clause yes ?
please. What is clear here is 2 things
Yarran is a complete waste of money, and the blues have bent us over good and proper.
The latter has been largely ignored in all of this, but as things start to pop out its becoming clear as day.
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Please? or thank you?
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What's the word? I've heard nothing.
Can somebody please fill me in.
Not good
Not bad?
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What's the word? I've heard nothing.
Can somebody please fill me in.
Not good
Not bad?
Well yes but no
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Please? or thank you?
per favore
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A little from column A, a little from column B.
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What the hell is going on? What's happening? Is it fairdinkum or is it just speculation? Was it six bullets or just five?
IGotsToKnow!
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Cant say
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Cant say
Why not?
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no
What the hell
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Please? or thank you?
per favore
Definately not grazie?
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 new reported that Yarran was back at the club today
Possible he will pay spme footy this year
Twitter was also in over drove re sightings of him running laps at Punt Road
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Well that's good news, lets hope he is getting his life sorted out. Slowly but surely.
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It is good news , I hope he does some work with Aron Clark, could be a win - win
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The cream, returnuth !
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From the RFC website
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Yarran returns to Tigerland
richmondfc.com.au
June 28, 2016 6:20 PM
Chris Yarran has returned to the Club having spent the past month seeking treatment for mental health issues.
"After consultation with medical staff, we have agreed that Chris is ready to return to the Club, and he has commenced training this week,” Richmond’s General Manager of Football Dan Richardson said.
“We will continue to provide him every support he needs to manage his condition and no timeline has been put on his return to playing football.
“We would like to thank the media for respecting Chris’ privacy while he continues to deal with these issues.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-06-28/yarran-returns-to-tigerland
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In theory te club were good enough to win 15 games without him anyway
'The cream' was Sposed to be the boost in the last third of the season.
Everything going to plan really
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(https://s32.postimg.org/pvopofc8l/image.jpg)
Well done Tiges!
Whatever it takes.
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Electric shock therapy has a bad wrap but has come a long way
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Clearly.
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Cheeky.
I went te lobotomy option.
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Happy he is back and better.
As part of the tiger family, he gets my full support. That doesn't mean that he is immune to criticism. It's just that his "injury" has prevented him from representing us. Would be great to see him streaming down the MCG wing in yellow and black.
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Richmond has no expectation on when Chris Yarran will return to football field
Jake Niall
Foxsports
29 June 2016
RICHMOND has no expectation that Chris Yarran will play for the Tigers this season and has not put a timeline on the recruit playing again, despite his return to training this week.
The Tigers say they don’t know whether Yarran will play football again this season, after the former Carlton utility returned to training on Tuesday following time out to receive treatment for mental health issues.
The club believes there is a chance he can play in 2016, provided he can endure the rigours of training. But the Tigers also are comfortable with the prospect of Yarran sitting out the remainder of this season and going straight into pre-season.
The Tigers have repeatedly stated that Yarran’s health is paramount and that they have acted on expert advice throughout — including the decision to allow him to resume training.
Yarran has fully recovered from surgery to his foot that saw him sidelined early this year and interrupted his preparations for his first season with his new club. He has not played at all since Carlton traded him in exchange for pick no 19 (eventually no 23). His fitness has some distance to travel before he would be ready to play.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-has-no-expectation-on-when-chris-yarran-will-return-to-football-field/news-story/1accf7de8377a3afcd1f19983d65d91e
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Well done Tiges!
Whatever it takes.
Gold
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Up to Yarran to decide when he’ll be ready: Hardwick
ELIZA SEWELL
Herald Sun
30 June 2016
CHRIS Yarran will make the call on when he’s ready to play football again, according to Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
Yarran returned to the club this week after taking indefinite leave late last month to deal with mental health issues.
He has not played for the Tigers since he was recruited from the Blues at the end of last season, struggling with calf and foot injuries, with the later requiring surgery.
While the Tigers welcomed back ruckman Ivan Maric in place of the injured Shaun Hampson (knee/illness) for Friday night’s clash with Port Adelaide, Hardwick refused to set a return date for Yarran.
“Obviously Chris is an important part of our future and we’re just here to support him,” Hardwick said.
“There’s no time frame on when he’s going to return, he’s just got to feel comfortable in doing so and our best form is support for Chris at this stage.
“ ... It’s for Chris to confirm when he’s available, really.”
Yarran is still recovering from the footy surgery.
“Obviously he’s come through a foot injury so that’s one of the things he’s going to get right,” Hardwick said.
“He’s just working through his rehab process at the moment.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/damien-hardwick-says-its-up-to-chris-yarran-to-decide-when-hell-be-ready-to-return/news-story/f395193eb598c115a70eb365e4881812
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Yarran is still recovering from the footy surgery.
:lol
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Yarran is still recovering from the footy surgery.
:lol
Yes, saw that too. Incredible to think that if he really is still having foot problems, his career is probably over....
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Yarran is still recovering from the footy surgery.
:lol
Yes, saw that too. Incredible to think that if he really is still having foot problems, his career is probably over....
Makes sense actually
Has missed a hunk of training which means he's missed further rehab on the foot
Had only just started full training on the foot (nasty injury BTW) eg sprinting etc just before he had his leave. Would think they would ease work load on foot so he doesn't re-injure
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Yarran is still recovering from the footy surgery.
:lol
Yes, saw that too. Incredible to think that if he really is still having foot problems, his career is probably over....
Makes sense actually
Has missed a hunk of training which means he's missed further rehab on the foot
Had only just started full training on the foot (nasty injury BTW) eg sprinting etc just before he had his leave. Would think they would ease work load on foot so he doesn't re-injure
He had his surgery in March......
14 weeks is usually enough for foot surgery to heel. That is unless he hasn't been looking after himself.......
It is concerning to say the least, WP.
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They mention he's working through rehab. I'd suspect the foot has healed but its more about strengthening and conditioning rehab so he doesnt re-injure ?
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They mention he's working through rehab. I'd suspect the foot has healed but its more about strengthening and conditioning rehab so he doesnt re-injure ?
Correct
And no YBB having the injury explained to me in graphic detail ;D, not concerned at all
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They mention he's working through rehab. I'd suspect the foot has healed but its more about strengthening and conditioning rehab so he doesnt re-injure ?
Thats how I took it, have heard the foot is completely healed
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extended lay off shouldnt be an issue in injury recovery, in fact it should help.
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thats true
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How much did we pay him this year ?
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LMAO
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600 k ?
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600 k ?
Apparently it was $700k as we didnt want to pay unders
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Punt road cottage.
Come in, have a breakdown, stay a while.
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Stay three years.
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Punt road cottage.
Come in, have a breakdown, stay a while.
:lol
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Stay three years.
Stay a while, jog some laps, get paid 12 grand a week. Your next breakdown is on us.
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It's a sanctuary for bread and butters.
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Surely 600k a year for doing sweet eff all cures any mental health issue....
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Or prolong it
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Yarran call to be made after rehab, says Hardwick
AFL.com.au
14 July 2016
RICHMOND says it is too early to tell if Chris Yarran will play for the club this season as the recruit continues to work through a full-time rehab program.
Yarran has been back at the Tigers since late June after taking a month away from the club to treat his mental health issues.
After undergoing foot surgery in late March, he is now in rehab with the rest of the club's injured players and looked focused running laps at Thursday's main session.
The club does not have a return date for the half-back and is not pushing him, but the 25-year-old is said to be keen to play at some level before the end of the season.
He has recovered well from the issues that saw him granted leave from the club, according to the management around him.
"He's going OK. He's going through his rehab phase, as we know he was coming back from his foot [injury]," coach Damien Hardwick said on Thursday.
"He'll just keep working through that. He's missed a significant amount of training and when he's right to play, he's right to play.
"When that is we're not too sure at this stage. We're just here to support and continue that support with him."
Asked what Yarran’s chances of playing this year were, Hardwick said: "We've got seven rounds, so it's probably too early to call at this stage".
Yarran was traded by Carlton at the end of last season for pick No.19 but has endured a tough run with injuries since joining his new club.
He suffered a calf injury in the pre-season, followed by surgery to his left foot.
He took a period of indefinite leave in late May after spending a week in his home state of Western Australia for personal reasons.
Hardwick again stressed on Thursday that Yarran was an important part of the club's future.
"He's a great player and we look forward to getting him back," the coach said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-14/yarran-call-to-be-made-after-rehab-says-hardwick
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Surely 600k a year for doing sweet eff all cures any mental health issue....
another of the worlds problems solved. someone gets all sad, just give them 600k and the problem is solved.
probably a pretty cheap, yet affective alternative to treatments handed out at the moment.
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RFC needs to put this guy on the oval in the VFL for the rest of the season. There is nothing wrong with him in body. Make him earn his money & place
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Surely 600k a year for doing sweet eff all cures any mental health issue....
Couldn't hurt
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Any more news? Is he in cotton wool for the rest of the year? Did he play in the 2?
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He's allowed to take all the time he "needs".
It's now a human interest story and for the RFC, it's very important to present itself as a modern club, fully aware of today's societal issues.
It matters not whether Chris plays a game of football again.
What's important is, Chris makes a fully paid recovery.
It's all part of the indigenous centre's creed.
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Where do you draw the line as a "football" club?
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Where do you draw the line as a "football" club?
As soon as they can't play and win games for you in the future. If at the end of season he is unlikely to play next year then you cut ties. Which is why I ask will he play this year to prove at least he's ready for a pre season. If he isn't then I would think time is ticking on him.
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So how much is he getting paid per slow jog around PRO?
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Where do you draw the line as a "football" club?
Through his pay cheque.
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So how much is he getting paid per slow jog around PRO?
Given he isn't playing I would assume not much for an AFL player. Zipp match payments but a hell of a lot for us mere mortals
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More than than a psych pension.
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Bartender goes what will yous ave
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Bartender goes what will yous ave
The born again says, "I'm just happy to be here and I don't drink"
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Thanks for a good year Christopher
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Does anyone have any facts about Chris? Is he a chance to play next year?
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Chance to pull on the boots this week I'm hearing.
To do a slow jog around PRO and take some time off to go back home.
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Fully paid recovery.
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fantastic pick up for the club. He was so quick l never seen him. What a waste
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Didn't make one mistake all year! :gotigers
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Statistically perfect debut year.
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Carlton would still be slapping each other on the back, makes up for the Collins trade?
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At the end of the day he missed the season. Whether it was through what it was or simply an injury, it happens. If he had of played we may have won a couple of extra games. Big deal!
The big question now is how he comes back in 2017. I blame the club for a lot of things but not going out and getting a very good player. He had a setback with his health and life goes on. I'm not overly sympathetic as people may know but sometimes people just need a break.
I'm looking forward to seeing him next year hopefully fully fit and tearing it up. I just hope Harfwit lets him run and kick it forward.
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Will retire seasons end
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He was like a new recruit and will be again next year. We got ourselves a twofer
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He was like a new recruit and will be again next year. We got ourselves a twofer
Good call
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The guy will be 26 next year. I believe he can still play a couple of good seasons for us. His 2013 and 2014 seasons have shown that he can be awesome. I don't believe his best is past him and as a previous poster has highlighted he actually wants to play for Richmond and I is interested in putting on the yellow and black and breaking through lines and kicking goals for us. For that alone I wish him all the best with his recovery in 2015 and with a bit of luck he will tear it up come preseason
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The guy will be 26 next year. I believe he can still play a couple of good seasons for us. His 2013 and 2014 seasons have shown that he can be awesome. I don't believe his best is past him and as a previous poster has highlighted he actually wants to play for Richmond and I is interested in putting on the yellow and black and breaking through lines and kicking goals for us. For that alone I wish him all the best with his recovery in 2015 and with a bit of luck he will tear it up come preseason
He'll be disappointed then when he puts on the charcoal and mustard!
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He's basically not played proper football for three years.
At 26, how good do you reckon he can be?
It's not Aas tho he's kept up the fitness to any impressive degree.
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Roll up! Roll up! $$$$$$$
Are you tired of being held accountable?
Are you annoyed at increased expectations?
Are you bothered by success driven high achieving clubs?
Are you wearied by well organised effective game plans?
Are you sick of working hard for your wages?
Are you irked by high standards?
Are you tired of tackling & shepherding?
Don't you think that you should be paid high wages for less output?
Don't you want to be appreciated for just being you?
$$$$$ We at Richmond FC want YOU! $$$$$$
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Punt
Road
Glue
Factory
Where good players go to die.
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Lmfao
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Personal trainer to spend time with Yarren in WA this off season. Desperate to get him up and going for next year :pray
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He is training under the watchful eye of VFL player and Personal Trainer Tom Couch
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Bloke should be made to give some of his salary back to the club. Disgraceful...
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Won't play a single game for Richmond.
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yep, but will milk another 600k next season before pulling up stumps
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Pen him in for round 1.
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Definitely won't now.....
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Swap him with Kirby
:shh
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Because he's going to comeback and be awesome and have no sign of this last lot of rubbish. :facepalm
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Meh....thought I'd chuck it on the fire anyway...
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:lol
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stuff the scum bag. If he was so messed up then he shouldn't have signed the contract.
I call bs. He stuffed up somewhere along the line, and now is using the party line that will allow him some breathing space.
That being said the funniest thing out of all of this and I mean funniest, is the guys who brought him to us are still employed the club
:birthday :birthday :birthday
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Are you 100% sure this is crap WP?
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Are you 100% sure this is crap WP?
I am with you on this Owl. It's about time WP started to prove what is unproven is not true.
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I would think that unless people have spoken directly to the man, we should not be commenting on his mental state.
I am happy to bag the club for not doing enough research on prospective recruits but leave the guy try to get better.
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All in all Carlton did us over, they knew Chris's state, our due diligence was pitiful.
Whoever sorted this trade should be axed
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All in all Carlton did us over, they knew Chris's state, our due diligence was pitiful.
Whoever sorted this trade should be axed
Correct 👍👍👍
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I would think that unless people have spoken directly to the man, we should not be commenting on his mental state.
I am happy to bag the club for not doing enough research on prospective recruits but leave the guy try to get better.
I woul think if we are paying him 6/700 k
To not play football.
It's open slather.
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I would think that unless people have spoken directly to the man, we should not be commenting on his mental state.
I am happy to bag the club for not doing enough research on prospective recruits but leave the guy try to get better.
I woul think if we are paying him 6/700 k
To not play football.
It's open slather.
It's open slather on the club who are handing over the cash....
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Are you 100% sure this is crap WP?
I am with you on this Owl. It's about time WP started to prove what is unproven is not true.
Needs to be held accountable!
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I would think that unless people have spoken directly to the man, we should not be commenting on his mental state.
I am happy to bag the club for not doing enough research on prospective recruits but leave the guy try to get better.
I woul think if we are paying him 6/700 k
To not play football.
It's open slather.
It's open slather on the club who are handing over the cash....
Mexican taco child -
"Why not both? "
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All very well but could you honestly look yourself in the mirror and say where youve disputed other peoples rumors over the past year that you havent got more than a few wrong in the fulness of time?
With respect you better than anyone knows Dooks, that unlike some on here when I've got it wrong I've put my hand up and admitted it. There a been occasions in the last 12 months you've called me on it and ive put my hand up and said it
So if I am found to be wrong on this and have been led up the proverbial then I will do the same.
Hope a few others have the guts to the same :thumbsup
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I doubt it WP
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All very well but could you honestly look yourself in the mirror and say where youve disputed other peoples rumors over the past year that you havent got more than a few wrong in the fulness of time?
With respect you better than anyone knows Dooks, that unlike some on here when I've got it wrong I've put my hand up and admitted it. There a been occasions in the last 12 months you've called me on it and ive put my hand up and said it
So if I am found to be wrong on this and have been led up the proverbial then I will do the same.
Hope a few others have the guts to the same :thumbsup
Yes, respectfully that is true. But what i am getting at is perhaps keep an open mind.
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All very well but could you honestly look yourself in the mirror and say where youve disputed other peoples rumors over the past year that you havent got more than a few wrong in the fulness of time?
With respect you better than anyone knows Dooks, that unlike some on here when I've got it wrong I've put my hand up and admitted it. There a been occasions in the last 12 months you've called me on it and ive put my hand up and said it
So if I am found to be wrong on this and have been led up the proverbial then I will do the same.
Hope a few others have the guts to the same :thumbsup
Yes, respectfully that is true. But what i am getting at is perhaps keep an open mind.
The problem here is that the rumour involves someones character and behaviour. If people are incorrect with these rumours you are character assassinating an innocent man (who in this case has a mental illness). Other rumours generally player discontent or are about club issues. It doesn't really matter if we get those wrong as you are not denigrating an individual. That is why I asked Jackstar if he saw bad things with his own eyes rather than hearing vicious rumours and just propagating them. Have you not ever experienced "Chinese whispers"? Try the experiment yourself. It's really interesting.
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People know the rules :banghead
Don't post unsubstantiated rumours on the forum
I don't care what is appearing on BF, that's their issue
But at this site, from a legal stand point we snip them
:banghead
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and now for some levity in a society compromised by political correctness.
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People know the rules :banghead
Don't post unsubstantiated rumours on the forum
I don't care what is appearing on BF, that's their issue
But at this site, from a legal stand point we snip them
:banghead
Not to start accusing anyone receiving unfair treatment but can you explain why some people can post rumours and cite twitter but when someone quotes big footy it's different? Twitter is not beyond big footy in any way and any nuffer can set up an account and post what they want. It's not even specifically twitter, it just seems some sites are allowed and others aren't and even then the consistency of allowing said site is non-existent
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Bet you $1.80 he doesn't play next year
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Bet you $1.80 he doesn't play next year
That's a lot of money. I'm out!
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Bet you $1.80 he doesn't play next year
That's a lot of money. I'm out!
There the odds
Have 1000 on , to get back $1800
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If he really won't play again for us then you would have to look to trade him or drop him in or after this years draft. Pity, an addiction is a real mongrel to beat.
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Bet you $1.80 he doesn't play next year
That's a lot of money. I'm out!
There the odds
Have 1000 on , to get back $1800
:lol
I know. Just having a bit of a joke. ;D
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Write him off as a bread and butter and get a compo pick.
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Top up player at least
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Should be charged with fraud!
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Who is Chris Yarran?
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People know the rules :banghead
Don't post unsubstantiated rumours on the forum
I don't care what is appearing on BF, that's their issue
But at this site, from a legal stand point we snip them
:banghead
Not to start accusing anyone receiving unfair treatment but can you explain why some people can post rumours and cite twitter but when someone quotes big footy it's different? Twitter is not beyond big footy in any way and any nuffer can set up an account and post what they want. It's not even specifically twitter, it just seems some sites are allowed and others aren't and even then the consistency of allowing said site is non-existent
I really don't know why we have to explain this to you again. I get that you don't agree with how we handle these things
But for the final time - we follow the legal advice we have received from day 1. And believe it or not it has held us in good steed. The times we've been threatened with legal action including (the most recent being only a few months ago) the removing of posts has kept us out trouble.
Have also said time and time again we don't care what other sites do. I don't why nor do I care why BF allows rumors to be posted like they do. We simply don't allow it here.
As for the twitter reference; if it is coming from a confirmed journo then we allow it..
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Yes - on your printer.....
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Sorry folks
Had to do a major snip-per-roo
Can't go into details
Will ask for the final time please don't refer to or post anything related to the rumour that appeared and I think is still on BF
Whack away if you feel the need just doing what needed to be done for the site
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Yeah sure thing Brandis, no deal, we want details, you sound like the board spill groups, no details. Can I at least get the bandanna back, I think Brian Canham is gonna beat me up if I don't give it back to him.
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Yeah sure thing Brandis, no deal, we want details, you sound like the board spill groups, no details. Can I at least get the bandanna back, I think Brian Canham is gonna beat me up if I don't give it back to him.
PM and I'll give anyone details
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145 pages in and yet hasn't played a game.
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tis a shame. He would of been handy, I think we have been well and truly carltanked.
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If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
In fact, the truth is - youre all racists m
You only have hopes for him because he's aboriginal.
Be honest with yourselves
Bump
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This forum is littered with basic knowledge overlooked by the club.
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So will he stuffing retire before trade period or will he stay on and get another years pay cheque for free? Bc there's no way this bloke will play afl again
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So will he stuffing retire before trade period or will he stay on and get another years pay cheque for free? Bc there's no way this bloke will play afl again
Exactly. And we will. New thead.
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I'm hearing retirement :thumbsdown
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Mental health is not a subject to disrespect
Some of you people are going to get a legal warning I think
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As much as I can't stand the bloke it's not his fault.
stuffin losers the lot of them
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heard he will be up and going for NAB challenge which is a good sign hell be like a new recruit for us
B- grimes- RANCE-???
HB- Bachar- Astbury(mmmm)-yazza
C- vlastuin - cotchin-
HF- Hartlett - Griffo - Tich
F- riolio - Jack -
R-
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heard he will be up and going for NAB challenge which is a good sign hell be like a new recruit for us
B- grimes- RANCE-???
HB- Bachar- Astbury(mmmm)-yazza
C- vlastuin - cotchin-
HF- Hartlett - Griffo - Tich
F- riolio - Jack -
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Vlastuin too slow etc for the wing ...
Bacha is a squib we need to find a Johanneson/Boyd/wood calibure defener. Deledio is good as a defender but ..
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If Yarran doesn't play/retires he shouldn't be paid put simply.
You can only hope to all things good there was a set of clauses in his contract and we got away without being totally raped this year... But knowing RFC (plus it was a RFA offer) there probably was no performance clause...
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Apparently Yarran is down at the Club the past 3 weeks training with the help of Tom Couch according to the latest Talking Tigers podcast.
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inb4 someone comments he is just casing the joint
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LOL
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Hahaha
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Good to hearhopefully he can stick it up a few people, including myself on occasion.
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inb4 someone comments he is just casing the joint
:lol
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On the other hand:
Greg Denham doesn't believe Chris Yarran will play again. "He may well be finished".
https://twitter.com/HungryForSport
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Apparently Yarran is down at the Club the past 3 weeks training with the help of Tom Couch according to the latest Talking Tigers podcast.
I also heard that Tom Couch went over to WA with him to supervise his training.
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I heard he was living at Choco's house to get mentored
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I really hope C Yarran comes back to RFC fit, happy & healthy.
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Apparently Yarran is down at the Club the past 3 weeks training with the help of Tom Couch according to the latest Talking Tigers podcast.
I also heard that Tom Couch went over to WA with him to supervise his training.
Yep.
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Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph has serious reservations as to whether Chris Yarran will return to the AFL with Richmond.
Yarran signed with a the club on a four year deal and the end of 2015, but failed to play single game with the Tigers in 2016 due to a foot injury, before receiving time off to deal with a mental health condition.
“Chris is yet to prove that he’s going to play football again to be honest,” Ralph told KB on Hungry for Sport.
“I think he signed a four year deal at Richmond, he’s had a lot of issues and he’s trying to work through those now.
“I think he was back in Perth over the off season, I think young Tom Couch who’s a part of the fitness staff and also plays VFL, had a great year in the VFL has been over there helping him.
“There’s some people you think they’ve got an issue, I’m sure they’ll overcome it. I think with Chris he needs to prove that that’s possible.
“I think that Richmond would be hopeful rather than wildly optimistic that Chris will come back and play (in 2017).”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/10/05/jon-ralph-discusses-chris-yarran-and-brett-deledio/
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I haven't heard that scuttlebut
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Reckon the podcast is spot on about being here in Melb
Know someone who litterally bumped into Yarran the other week here in Melb :rollin
One was a leaving, the other was arriving and ...
Moral of the story
Folks should really look where thay going ;D
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Reckon the podcast is spot on about being here in Melb
Know someone who litterally bumped into Yarran the other week here in Melb :rollin
One was a leaving, the other was arriving and ...
Moral of the story
Folks should really look where thay going ;D
bumped into him...tell him to check his coat pocket...I kid I kid!
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hopefully it works out for yazza hed be a good player if all this was sorted clearly we have had the sheets pulled over our eyes
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hopefully it works out for yazza hed be a good player if all this was sorted clearly we have had the sheets pulled over our eyes
hmmm inconsistent and his average disposals are way too low
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hopefully it works out for yazza hed be a good player if all this was sorted clearly we have had the sheets pulled over our eyes
hmmm inconsistent and his average disposals are way too low
fits right in at home here mate we have a stack of them
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hopefully it works out for yazza hed be a good player if all this was sorted clearly we have had the sheets pulled over our eyes
hmmm inconsistent and his average disposals are way too low
fits right in at home here mate we have a stack of them
sure does :thumbsup
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Hopefully he gets his life sorted. AFL isn't for everyone.
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Like Hamspud, Hunt & the people who run Richmond for example...
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Certainly isn't for any of the peanuts that post on OER.
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Certainly isn't for any of the peanuts that post on OER.
Correct seeing the peanuts haven't played any AFL games.
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Certainly isn't for any of the peanuts that post on OER.
Correct seeing the peanuts haven't played any AFL games.
Some of them have....
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stuff I feel duped on this trade
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stuff I feel duped on this trade
Let it all out bro......just let it all out (hugs)
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Reckon the podcast is spot on about being here in Melb
Know someone who litterally bumped into Yarran the other week here in Melb :rollin
One was a leaving, the other was arriving and ...
Moral of the story
Folks should really look where thay going ;D
He's already lost his ability to move through traffic :banghead
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Reckon the podcast is spot on about being here in Melb
Know someone who litterally bumped into Yarran the other week here in Melb :rollin
One was a leaving, the other was arriving and ...
Moral of the story
Folks should really look where thay going ;D
He's already lost his ability to move through traffic :banghead
:lol
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Zero clangers
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In today's Sunday Herald-Sun, it said Yarran spent a week in Thailand and was spotted in "co-ordinated bliss" doing Muay Thai, the art of kick-boxing.
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In today's Sunday Herald-Sun, it said Yarran spent a week in Thailand and was spotted in "co-ordinated bliss" doing Muay Thai, the art of kick-boxing.
They obviously got their wires crossed....he was actually uncoordinated after blissfully drinking Mai Tais and kicked a box over....
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In today's Sunday Herald-Sun, it said Yarran spent a week in Thailand and was spotted in "co-ordinated bliss" doing Muay Thai, the art of kick-boxing.
They obviously got their wires crossed....he was actually uncoordinated after blissfully drinking Mai Tais and kicked a box over....
:ROTFL
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:lol
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:snidegrin
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Still getting paid :)
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Still getting paid at least we will see what he has to offer in 2017.
There is no excuses. If he is not ready then all who got him to the club need to be sacked
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Huge preseason coming up for Yarran as patience has run out from a club point of view. Yarran knows this so it is good to see him pull his finger out and get moving.....time to repay the faith!
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Who?
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will be like a new recruit
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Will appear on the next recruit.....as a cautionary tale to the contestents....
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Apparently will be employed as the new kick boxing coach. :shh
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He trains well
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Taking it one lap at a time
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Taking it one lap at a time
walking?
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Jogging crying
Crying jogging.
Holidays.
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and getting paid
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Listening to sad songs
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sad songs say so much.....
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When all hope is gone
You know sad songs say so much
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apparently chris is training the house down.... looking forwarded to cing him in the black and yellow 2017 round 1
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Just need this fella up & going & Hardwick will have to come up with a whole new game plan :lol
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Yarren. :pray
Kirby. :pray
Nankarvis
Caddy. :pray
Prestia
Pick #15. :pray
Pick # 22
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Have we traded this bloke yet - 2025's pick 132 looks good.
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Yarren. :pray
Kirby. :pray
Nankarvis
Caddy. :pray
Prestia
Pick #15. :pray
Pick # 22
+ Willy "better than Cyril" Rioli.... :shh
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So does anyone know for sure about Chris?
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Jogging crying
Crying jogging.
Holidays.
Well played.
Classic :lol
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So does anyone know for sure about Chris?
KB was asked today on SEN and his opionion was this: from the information he has heard it will be lucky if Chris Yarran ever plays again and then he wished him well.
I think at this stage forget about Chris Yarran playing, and hope he gets his life back on track first before anything else.
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So does anyone know for sure about Chris?
KB was asked today on SEN and his opionion was this: from the information he has heard it will be lucky if Chris Yarran ever plays again and then he wished him well.
I think at this stage forget about Chris Yarran playing, and hope he gets his life back on track first before anything else.
KB is rarely correct
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Jogging crying
Crying jogging.
Holidays.
LMFAO .
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So does anyone know for sure about Chris?
KB was asked today on SEN and his opionion was this: from the information he has heard it will be lucky if Chris Yarran ever plays again and then he wished him well.
I think at this stage forget about Chris Yarran playing, and hope he gets his life back on track first before anything else.
KB is rarely correct
And your info on the matter at present?
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Has gone the way of big Reece. We need to ask the AFL for draft compensation....but we won't.
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We got done royally by the blues and the AFL, both were aware of 'issues'.
stuffing stupid
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Do we not do a mental health assessment before trading/drafting ? Or do we think we can just fix players with our healthy culture and winning attitude
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
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The current board and president would have seen Yarran as a possible " great story"
Their own arrogance, embedded In Political correctness and social issues, no doubt is behind this and all the other ridiculous choices they have made.
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
Agree, carlton should have to hand us their 1st round draft pick this year.
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Has gone the way of big Reece. We need to ask the AFL for draft compensation....but we won't.
Says who ???
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Lol
Lids leaves and two blokes quit due to their mental health.
Dimmer. Yessssss :clapping :clapping :clapping
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
This just speculation or do we have some sort of proof. If we do then we would probably have a case.
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
This just speculation or do we have some sort of proof. If we do then we would probably have a case.
Best thing we do with players Best interests at heart are to cop it sweet and move on. He doesnt need a media circus around him. Media has left him alone when they threw the MHI blanket.
I was dissapointed that we picked him up because I didnt think he was worth what we paid but thats just life
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
This just speculation or do we have some sort of proof. If we do then we would probably have a case.
Best thing we do with players Best interests at heart are to cop it sweet and move on. He doesnt need a media circus around him. Media has left him alone when they threw the MHI blanket.
I was dissapointed that we picked him up because I didnt think he was worth what we paid but thats just life
Yes, but in this world of playing the victim wins, we have an intersting and palpable level of merit.
Just ask(off the top of my head):-
Brisbane :-;oh whoa is us we havent won a triple premiership in 13 years
Carlton:- we have been victims of our own cheating
Collingwood:- cola affects us only... and we subsidise the comp
Essendon:- were just shocked to be sitting here
Footscray :- we are the underdogs
Port:- never twar us apart
North:- shinboner spirit
Stk:- we wuz framed.
Syd:- its more expensive up here
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http://m.afl.com.au
Yaz is back in training.
I think we all agree it will be nice if he can produce the goods again.
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
This just speculation or do we have some sort of proof. If we do then we would probably have a case.
Best thing we do with players Best interests at heart are to cop it sweet and move on. He doesnt need a media circus around him. Media has left him alone when they threw the MHI blanket.
I was dissapointed that we picked him up because I didnt think he was worth what we paid but thats just life
Yes, but in this world of playing the victim wins, we have an intersting and palpable level of merit.
Just ask(off the top of my head):-
Brisbane :-;oh whoa is us we havent won a triple premiership in 13 years
Carlton:- we have been victims of our own cheating
Collingwood:- cola affects us only... and we subsidise the comp
Essendon:- were just shocked to be sitting here
Footscray :- we are the underdogs
Port:- never twar us apart
North:- shinboner spirit
Stk:- we wuz framed.
Syd:- its more expensive up here
Melbourne - ok we'll pay the fine for being "not guilty of tanking" , now can we have 10x the fine in funding, premium draft picks and a premiership coach please just to make sure we learn our lesson to never not do it again.......
Gold Coast - we're not going to be feeder club for other clubs whose money & concessions gave us all the talented kids at their expense in the first place...
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I would definitely be seeking compensation from afl even through we should have done our homework but both the afl and blues both knew including his manager Conners who I can't stand.
This just speculation or do we have some sort of proof. If we do then we would probably have a case.
Best thing we do with players Best interests at heart are to cop it sweet and move on. He doesnt need a media circus around him. Media has left him alone when they threw the MHI blanket.
I was dissapointed that we picked him up because I didnt think he was worth what we paid but thats just life
Yes, but in this world of playing the victim wins, we have an intersting and palpable level of merit.
Just ask(off the top of my head):-
Brisbane :-;oh whoa is us we havent won a triple premiership in 13 years
Carlton:- we have been victims of our own cheating
Collingwood:- cola affects us only... and we subsidise the comp
Essendon:- were just shocked to be sitting here
Footscray :- we are the underdogs
Port:- never twar us apart
North:- shinboner spirit
Stk:- we wuz framed.
Syd:- its more expensive up here
Melbourne - ok we'll pay the fine for being "not guilty of tanking" , now can we have 10x the fine in funding, premium draft picks and a premiership coach please just to make sure we learn our lesson to never not do it again.......
Gold Coast - we're not going to be feeder club for other clubs whose money & concessions gave us all the talented kids at their expense in the first place...
Whose playing the victim now?
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Prestia,Caddy,knackers & Yarran fit and ready to go round 1.
:pray
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All of a sudden, after the best part of three years out of the game and serious mental health issues, Chris was a champion ! :lol
STFU ! !
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He would be lucky to be better than Conca let alone a champion
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Jogging laps
For 500k
Eating burgers
Every day
Chris Yarran (clap clap clap)
Chris Yarran (clap clap clap)
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Token.
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Balme says that Yarran, who has not played a single game for Richmond after being brought to the club in last year’s AFL Trade Period due to injuries and mental health issues, has secretly returned to training but is still a way off from playing senior football again.
“He’s training at the moment, he’s (in Melbourne)…he’s not officially back,” Balme said on SEN’s Hungry for Sport.
“He’s got a fair bit of work to do and we’re hopeful it can work itself out.”
The former Richmond player says that he is uncertain of whether Yarran’s current training is either physical or mental, but expects it would combine both.
“I think it would be a bit of both…I honestly don’t know, I don’t have a report on it, no so I’d be guessing at this stage,” said Balme.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/10/21/neil-balme-talks-yarran-and-why-the-tigers-let-go-of-lids/
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Mental being, sits in the gym staring at weights
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Leading the club a merry dance methinks.....just cut the prick loose already...
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Yep.
There's nobody to blame but the club itself.
Those stuffn morons.
Narcissistic dimmer believed he could cure him.... Although he's not really a people's person.
LMAO.
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Leading the club a merry dance methinks.....just cut the prick loose already...
do it now before final list lodgements
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All of a sudden, after the best part of three years out of the game and serious mental health issues, Chris was a champion ! :lol
STFU ! !
Played most of the year in 2015 and suddenly he's been out for 3 years? :lol :lol
The way you blokes were carrying on I thought I missed some major news
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I think theres a role for him at the club. Those laps arent going to jog themselves now are they?
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Why is it that Balme doesn't really know what he's doing? Isn't it his job to know what's actually happening? Does anyone know?
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Why is it that Balme doesn't really know what he's doing? Isn't it his job to know what's actually happening? Does anyone know?
Of course they know. It's their way of saying we are not telling you.
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Why is it that Balme doesn't really know what he's doing? Isn't it his job to know what's actually happening? Does anyone know?
Of course they know. It's their way of saying we are not telling you.
Its also their way of saying he's probably stuffed so dont expect him to play.
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the worst thing about this is not actually Yarran himself, because he didnt trade himself or pay himself a salary, its the fact the fools who got him to the club are still there and will be for 2017.
The Richmond way :gotigers
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Why is it that Balme doesn't really know what he's doing? Isn't it his job to know what's actually happening? Does anyone know?
Of course they know. It's their way of saying we are not telling you.
Its also their way of saying he's probably stuffed so dont expect him to play.
:yep
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What do you blokes want ?
Do you want Chris to officially quit and return every cent of his salary to the club ?
Good luck with that.
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
Nah
We should just sack the morons who agreed to his terms.
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
Nah
We should just sack the morons who agreed to his terms.
Now that's just rocking the boat. The instability is mind boggling.
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
Nah
We should just sack the morons who agreed to his terms.
Now that's just rocking the boat. The instability is mind boggling.
I would've thought they are accountable for integrity of information? If the club has been deliberately deceived by Carlton or his manager then we should be seeking some type of mediation on the original trade. Especially if this is going into a second pre season.
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What r saying is, the club were screwed over by his manager.
What I'm saying is, the club screwed us over with unqualified, egotistical negotiations and decision making.
It's a good manager versus a dumb club.
Pre deal I posted how acquiring him would beam mistake.
If an hole like me can see it but the football savy board and coach can't........
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I'm not disagreeing with that, it's an and....
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
I think thats going tp very difficult seeing said manager ; manages some RFC players ;D
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I'm not disagreeing with that, it's an and....
That was directed at tdy, HRT :cheers
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Any mediation would be worth pursuing given the alleged reality of the situation.
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He is on track to return playing next season.
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He is on track to return playing next season.
Great news TM.
Is that from good sources (of course most things from you are)?
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He is on track to return playing next season.
We wouldn't want to rush him...
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
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He is on track to return playing next season.
He certainly is
Hopefully no more hurdles
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He'll be like a new recruit!
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Looks very fit
😉
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He'll be better than before. Better, stronger, faster.
I might call him Steve Austin. ;)
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Yeh well by the time this poo is over, he will owe them about 6 million.
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Sounds like Tom Couch is a star on and off the field with his work with Yarran so far.
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Yeh well by the time this poo is over, he will owe them about 6 million.
:lol
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
Has he returned to Perth? He was training at Punt Road last week
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
Nah
We should just sack the morons who agreed to his terms.
Now that's just rocking the boat. The instability is mind boggling.
I would've thought they are accountable for integrity of information? If the club has been deliberately deceived by Carlton or his manager then we should be seeking some type of mediation on the original trade. Especially if this is going into a second pre season.
I should a put a wink. It was an ironic comment tongue in cheek. ;) Instability seems to be a buzzword at richmond these days, too worried about eating our own to realize when people are failing and make the required moves.
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
I think thats going tp very difficult seeing said manager ; manages some RFC players ;D
That's a poo. Can we have a quiet word with new recruits to avoid this guy. Who is it btw?
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I think as a club we should be very wary of dealing with his manager again or Carlton for that matter.
I think thats going tp very difficult seeing said manager ; manages some RFC players ;D
That's a poo. Can we have a quiet word with new recruits to avoid this guy. Who is it btw?
A quiet word? Err no they can't
What about current players? Are the club supposed to have a quiet word to them to about changing managers too ::)
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
Has he returned to Perth? He was training at Punt Road last week
Seen on the beach at Scarborough by two people I know yesterday
Both say he looks fit
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Yep done some laps and even ran on the beach. Has asked for some extended time off to recover from the exhausting sessions.
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He wasn't doing laps, I was chasing him coz he still has my UDL's
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:lol
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
Has he returned to Perth? He was training at Punt Road last week
Seen on the beach at Scarborough by two people I know yesterday
Both say he looks fit
Fit in AFL terms? Fit in generic terms? Or fit for Perth terms?
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
Has he returned to Perth? He was training at Punt Road last week
Seen on the beach at Scarborough by two people I know yesterday
Both say he looks fit
Fit in AFL terms? Fit in generic terms? Or fit for Perth terms?
That I don't know
Both contacts I know are involved in footy so fit in footy terms I would assume
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When he tears it up next year some on here will have egg on their face.
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When he tears it up next year some on here will have egg on their face.
Wouldn't be the only thing on some of their faces
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Different texture
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When he tears it up next year some on here will have egg on their face.
And when she doesn't?
Only thing he should tear up is his contract
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The prevailing view is that the Tigers will cut their losses before the start of 2017 and reach a settlement........
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/failure-to-reach-fitness-levels-puts-chris-yarrans-future-at-richmond-in-doubt-20161027-gscd9n.html
Chris Yarran's future at Richmond remains in serious doubt with the 25-year-old still struggling to reach the fitness levels demanded by the Tigers after a long lay-off from the game.
Although the club accepts Yarran is genuinely attempting to make a comeback he has struggled to lose weight and has returned to Melbourne for the second year running in less-than-ideal condition for an early assault on the pre-season.
Chris Yarran's future at Richmond remains in serious doubt with the 25-year-old still struggling to reach the fitness levels demanded by the Tigers after a long lay-off from the game.
Although the club accepts Yarran is genuinely attempting to make a comeback he has struggled to lose weight and has returned to Melbourne for the second year running in less-than-ideal condition for an early assault on the pre-season.
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The prevailing view is that the Tigers will cut their losses before the start of 2017 and reach a settlement with Yarran who remains contracted to the club until the end of 2018.
Yarran has been working with VFL footballer Tom Couch, the son of the late Brownlow medallist Paul Couch, who he has hired as a personal trainer. The pair travelled to Thailand in September where Yarran enrolled in an intensive training camp focusing on kick boxing.
More recently Couch travelled to Western Australia to work with Yarran, who has also battled a recent hamstring issue, in a bid to prepare him for a pre-season return. Yarran was spotted training in Melbourne on Thursday, running around the Tan after returning from Perth on Wednesday night.
The Tigers had high hopes for Yarran who came from Carlton in return for pick 19 at the end of 2015. But despite denials at the time he arrived at the club unfit and overweight and in a bid to fast-track his return to elite shape suffered a foot injury requiring surgery on the eve of the season.
Family and mental health problems saw Richmond grant the player personal leave in May. Since then he has journeyed several times to WA to deal with his family issues.
Despite Richmond's significant disappointment in the Yarran saga the player's manager Paul Connors has remained complimentary of the club's handling of the difficult issue and the understanding and patience afforded him from football lieutenant Daniel Richardson.
Connors and the club remain in daily contact regarding Yarran's progress. Both parties now regret that a more specifically tailored training regime was not put in place for the highly-talented player, who achieved 119 games for Carlton despite the notable personal obstacles he faced, some years ago.
Yarran has at this stage committed to report early for pre-season at Punt Road on November 7 with Richmond's first and second-year players.
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Hmm.
I was hoping that maybe he had got himself back on the right track, if not just for his playing future but also for his person.
Caro wouldn't use such an ominous phrase unless its almost certain to happen.
Very disappointed.
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Settlement? Take them to court Christopher; a contract is a contract.
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Cut loses and move on IMO. Just accept that Carlton boned us and hopefully we can get one back on them one day.
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Manager was on SEN this morning
ANd David Schwarz also said the Caro article is not wholly accurate. More time to be given
Both agreed that he is carrying some weight but the other issues are under control
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Balmey also said this morning that Caro's article was wrong in terms of they are not looking at 'cutting their losses' with him.
Lets see how he is by Christmas break. I think we and he will know alot more by then.
From all accounts he is giving it his best shot at the moment. And coming back with the 1st and 2nd year players gives us a good idea as to his intent.
Hopefully it all works out for him.
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Sounds like the club has had enough.
If RFC moves for a settlement you can be sure they will be hard about paying him as little as possible.
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Sounds like poor Chris will have to bypass the Xmas pudding this year. Poor bloke, is it all worth it?
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Hes had a personal trainer since seasons end and still returns in "less than ideal shape"
Cut our losses now and move on, the reality is it's a waste of a list spot keeping him till christmas. Say we decide to part company at christmas, then what? too late to bring another kid on. IMO the club is erring by letting it drag on
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Misery loves company.
Fat, unaccountable baby.
FHO.
Stupid president thinks she's Hillary Clinton and is using this as a civil rights story.
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And yet the architect of his recruitment to Richmond who gave up two picks which ended up being worth pick 11 remains here.
Go figure.
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What a stuffn loser
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Joggin laps......eating bread
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Balmey also said this morning that Caro's article was wrong in terms of they are not looking at 'cutting their losses' with him.
Lets see how he is by Christmas break. I think we and he will know alot more by then.
From all accounts he is giving it his best shot at the moment. And coming back with the 1st and 2nd year players gives us a good idea as to his intent.
Hopefully it all works out for him.
Yes, agree
He is doing all he can.
Coming from a long way back.
No surprise he is out of shape.
Not sure that having a personal trainer for 8 weeks is going to get you into AFL condition, dont reckon it is as simple as that.
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yazza gets himself right will be a massive bonus for the club specially off the HBF it will not only give pace it will allow nick to go to the wing to play like a mid
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Balmey also said this morning that Caro's article was wrong in terms of they are not looking at 'cutting their losses' with him.
Lets see how he is by Christmas break. I think we and he will know alot more by then.
From all accounts he is giving it his best shot at the moment. And coming back with the 1st and 2nd year players gives us a good idea as to his intent.
Hopefully it all works out for him.
Yes, agree
He is doing all he can.
Coming from a long way back.
No surprise he is out of shape.
Not sure that having a personal trainer for 8 weeks is going to get you into AFL condition, dont reckon it is as simple as that.
Agree Mate. All we can ask is that he give it his best shot. And it seems like he is doing that right now.
The weight will come off if he continues to work hard.
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Balmey also said this morning that Caro's article was wrong in terms of they are not looking at 'cutting their losses' with him.
Lets see how he is by Christmas break. I think we and he will know alot more by then.
From all accounts he is giving it his best shot at the moment. And coming back with the 1st and 2nd year players gives us a good idea as to his intent.
Hopefully it all works out for him.
Yes, agree
He is doing all he can.
Coming from a long way back.
No surprise he is out of shape.
Not sure that having a personal trainer for 8 weeks is going to get you into AFL condition, dont reckon it is as simple as that.
True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
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Injury free and if he is over his mental health issues Yazz will too.
But they are big 'ifs' at this stage.
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True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
Firstly, you making an assumption about how "fat" he supposedly is. None of us really know.
And another thing to consider if he's on some sort medication it could impact as well. I know someone who wasn't over weight until they went on meds for a medical condition. They got warned that one of the side effects was that you'd simply gain weight no matter how much exercise they did. And boy did they balloon. And this happened over a 12 month period. Was staggering to witness
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True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
Firstly, you making an assumption about how "fat" he supposedly is. None of us really know.
And another thing to consider if he's on some sort medication it could impact as well. I know someone who wasn't over weight until they went on meds for a medical condition. They got warned that one of the side effects was that you'd simply gain weight no matter how much exercise they did. And boy did they balloon. And this happened over a 12 month period. Was staggering to witness
So you're saying there's a possibility he's fatter than Motlop got?
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True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
Firstly, you making an assumption about how "fat" he supposedly is. None of us really know.
And another thing to consider if he's on some sort medication it could impact as well. I know someone who wasn't over weight until they went on meds for a medical condition. They got warned that one of the side effects was that you'd simply gain weight no matter how much exercise they did. And boy did they balloon. And this happened over a 12 month period. Was staggering to witness
Absolutely true. Medicated mental health patients frequently put on a lot of weight. Many of the meds increase appetite and often decrease the urge to exercise.
A very difficult problem.
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True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
Firstly, you making an assumption about how "fat" he supposedly is. None of us really know.
And another thing to consider if he's on some sort medication it could impact as well. I know someone who wasn't over weight until they went on meds for a medical condition. They got warned that one of the side effects was that you'd simply gain weight no matter how much exercise they did. And boy did they balloon. And this happened over a 12 month period. Was staggering to witness
So you're saying there's a possibility he's fatter than Motlop got?
No I'm saying there's a chance he's not
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Tigers haven't given up on Yarran: Balme
AFL.com.au
October 28, 2016
RICHMOND has not given up hope that Chris Yarran will recover to complete a full pre-season, and will give him that opportunity before considering his list position for 2017.
The Tigers remain content with Yarran's progress after he spent much of last season dealing with personal and family issues, which have now left him struggling to get back to full fitness.
The club believes his progress has not deviated from their agreed off-season plan, which centred on personal training in his break with VFL player and ex-Demon Tom Couch.
The former Carlton half-back, who is contracted to the end of 2018, will also return to pre-season training early with the club's first-year players on November 7.
Asked if the Tigers were now moving towards reaching a settlement with Yarran and taking him off their list, football manager Neil Balme told SEN radio: "We haven't made any of those decisions".
Balme said Yarran's future on the list would rest on his ability to build his fitness to an AFL standard.
"There will be an agreement … is he able to, is he capable, does he want to? That'll all work itself out," Balme told SEN.
"We're obviously going to help him as much as we can, but the reality is either he can or he can't.
"He'll either train as hard as he can and get himself in the right condition, or he can't. That'll work itself out in due course."
Richmond would face a blowout in its 2017 player payments if it did part ways with Yarran two years before his contract expires.
The Tigers would be bound to pay out his contract in full, with that entire amount to then sit under its 2017 salary cap, rather than spread over two seasons.
An option for the club would be to re-rookie Yarran, even if he was no longer part of the program, allowing a portion of his sizeable payout to sit outside the salary cap.
Balme conceded Yarran was overweight after a long period out of the game and away from a full-time AFL program.
"He's due back next week, he's going to come back with the younger players and we'll see how he goes. He may well be a touch over(weight)," Balme said.
"But obviously there's two sides to this. We need to look after the individual, look after Chris, and give him every opportunity to play because we want him to play."
After being granted personal leave in May to deal with family and mental health problems, he is said to be in a better headspace going into pre-season.
"There's two sides to this one and we've got to look after the individual," Balme said.
"He's been through an enormous amount and he's a pretty resilient kid."
Yarran has been unable to play a senior game since arriving from Carlton in exchange for pick No.19 at the end of 2015.
In his absence, rookie Jayden Short established himself as a rebounding defender and is set to earn promotion to the senior list.
Short played 16 games in 2016 and averaged 14.9 possessions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-28/tigers-havent-given-up-on-yarran-balme
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Chris Yarran’s AFL career in doubt, Richmond to assess his fitness when training resumes
Foxsports
28 October 2016
RICHMOND admits Chris Yarran is still not fit enough for AFL footy but will give him a chance to prove he deserves a chance to revive his career.
Yarran, 25, hasn’t played a game for the Tigers since being traded to the club from Carlton at the end of 2014.
Last year he was given indefinite leave to deal with personal issues and has spent time with his family in Western Australia.
He is preparing for a comeback this year and has employed a personal trainer — VFL player Tom Couch, the son of late Geelong champion Paul Couch — to help him get in shape.
Richmond football manager Neil Balme says Yarran will be assessed when he returns to training with the Tigers’ first to fourth year players on November 7.
“He’s due back next week, he’s going to come back with the younger players and we’ll see how he goes. He may well be a touch over(weight),” Balme said on SEN.
“Obviously, he’s had some genuine issues getting himself back in order to play. He’s working really hard.
“There’s two sides to this. Obviously, we need to look after the individual, look after Chris and give him every opportunity to play because we want him to play. But with that, there is a standard he’s got to meet to be part of the group and it’s just a matter of whether he’s able to get himself fit enough to do that.
“If he can then he’ll get an opportunity and if he can’t he probably won’t.”
Yarran’s return would be a huge boost for the Tigers who would effectively have a third top-line recruit next year as well as Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy, who arrived in this year’s trade period.
Richmond is hoping to rebound from a terrible 2016 season and have been handed an early bonus with one of the easiest fixtures in the competition.
Balme denied Richmond was already preparing to negotiate an end to Yarran’s contact before next season.
“He’s been through an enormous amount and is a pretty resilient kid, really. He’s had a lot he’s had to deal with and we’re going to help him as much as we can,” he said.
“But the reality is he either can or he can’t. He’ll be either able to get there or he won’t.
“He’ll be able to train as hard as he can and get himself in the right condition or he can’t and that will work itself out in due course.
“We haven’t made any of those decisions.
“He’s got a lot of issues to deal with but he’s certainly getting the support to do it (get back) and we’ll see how he goes.”
Former Melbourne player David Schwarz said today Yarran is “not putting up the white flag”.
“He’s got a personal trainer. He’s had his best couple of sessions this week. The weight hasn’t dropped off as yet. It will begin to drop off because now he’s working hard,” Schwarz said.
“He’s not due back until November 7, he’s not taking a break from now all the way through.
“The ball is in his court to get his body right and he is doing that. He is paying for the personal trainer out of his own pocket, that wouldn’t be coming cheap. He knows that this is his last roll of the dice. Otherwise Richmond will say goodbye and he could be lost to footy.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/chris-yarran-will-return-to-training-with-richmond-on-november-7/news-story/8d229f947499d594ba94c34b5f1d091d
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This is all last roll of the dice stuff to me. Sounds like he'll be gone come rnd 1 2017 to me.
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True but he shouldn't have fallen that far behind surely? Motlop had a bigger gut on him than I do after Christmas lunch and still got in shape for the AFL season in a span of about 2-3 months
Firstly, you making an assumption about how "fat" he supposedly is. None of us really know.
And another thing to consider if he's on some sort medication it could impact as well. I know someone who wasn't over weight until they went on meds for a medical condition. They got warned that one of the side effects was that you'd simply gain weight no matter how much exercise they did. And boy did they balloon. And this happened over a 12 month period. Was staggering to witness
So you're saying there's a possibility he's fatter than Motlop got?
No I'm saying there's a chance he's not
Ah huh.
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If the guy can come back from where he's been, it will be a minor miracle.
I really hope he makes it, both for himself (self belief and esteem) and for the team.
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Balmey also said this morning that Caro's article was wrong in terms of they are not looking at 'cutting their losses' with him.
Lets see how he is by Christmas break. I think we and he will know alot more by then.
From all accounts he is giving it his best shot at the moment. And coming back with the 1st and 2nd year players gives us a good idea as to his intent.
Hopefully it all works out for him.
Yes, agree
He is doing all he can.
Coming from a long way back.
No surprise he is out of shape.
Not sure that having a personal trainer for 8 weeks is going to get you into AFL condition, dont reckon it is as simple as that.
'Doing all he can'.
He could hand back his wage from last year for starters. Or donate most of it to the Aboriginal Institute. Or Beyond Blue.
By all accounts this stuffer knew he had major issues before he even got here. And we fell for it without doing due dilligence.
The guy has 'issues' no doubt but that doesn't mean he's not a poo bloke.
What a leech.
And we were stupid enough to fall for it.
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it won't be a minor miracle if he comes back, it's a minor miracle that a club with today's resources could possibly still trade for a guy with that baggage
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it won't be a minor miracle if he comes back, it's a minor miracle that a club with today's resources could possibly still trade for a guy with that baggage
Really?
The guy has been in some of the darkest places in the last year. To be able to play at the highest level again would be amazing.
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it won't be a minor miracle if he comes back, it's a minor miracle that a club with today's resources could possibly still trade for a guy with that baggage
Really?
The guy has been in some of the darkest places in the last year. To be able to play at the highest level again would be amazing.
I could give you half a dozen genuine sporting miracles that would put Chris Yarrens situation to shame. It's a laughable description of the effort required to get back.
Good luck to him.
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I guess the other issue here is that of "sick leave".
All employees get sick leave. However, it is not unlimited. I would like to know if Chris has been payed all this time or did the payments stop at one point? An employer cannot be expected to give unlimited sick leave to players.
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it won't be a minor miracle if he comes back, it's a minor miracle that a club with today's resources could possibly still trade for a guy with that baggage
Really?
The guy has been in some of the darkest places in the last year. To be able to play at the highest level again would be amazing.
I could give you half a dozen genuine sporting miracles that would put Chris Yarrens situation to shame. It's a laughable description of the effort required to get back.
Good luck to him.
And ill bet each one of those half dozen people hadnt screwed over
a club, organisation or other party to the tune of 400-500k.
Make that a million if you include next year.
Lmfao
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:clapping this guy like many others, is just using "depression" as an excuse for being a stuffwit
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:clapping this guy like many others, is just using "depression" as an excuse for being a stuffwit
And we are tired of our clubs incompetence costing us membership revenue and salary cap space
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:clapping this guy like many others, is just using "depression" as an excuse for being a stuffwit
And we are tired of our clubs incompetence costing us membership revenue and salary cap space
That is a separate matter to me. There comes a time when the club can no longer justify paying someone for being on the sidelines, no matter what his health problems are. e.g. Morabito for Freo.
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SNIP
:banghead :banghead
Obviously just done some major editing amd considering doing some more
A number of posters are a few key stokes away from a holiday. Think people should know that after the events of last week that people who fail to obey the simplest of rules will get turfed.
I am not interested in the finger pointing, people trying to justify their reasons for breaking posting rules.
It ends now
But here again are the rules
1. Stick to the topic.
2. You all know the rules DO NOT post anything that is rumour, innuendo, speculation etc. Stick to what is known.
3. Keep the personal sniping of the forum
4. Keep the racists slurs and nonsense off the forum
5. Don't play moderator or you will be suspended as well
It's pretty simple really
And yes i am extremely peeved
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SNIP
:banghead :banghead
Obviously just done some major editing amd considering doing some more
A number of posters are a few key stokes away from a holiday. Think people should know that after the events of last week that people who fail to obey the simplest of rules will get turfed.
I am not interested in the finger pointing, people trying to justify their reasons for breaking posting rules.
It ends now
But here again are the rules
1. Stick to the topic.
2. You all know the rules DO NOT post anything that is rumour, innuendo, speculation etc. Stick to what is known.
3. Keep the personal sniping of the forum
4. Keep the racists slurs and nonsense off the forum
5. Don't play moderator or you will be suspended as well
It's pretty simple really
And yes i am extremely peeved
And I don't blame you. I bet when you guys started this forum you didn't think it would be such a negative and nasty forum at times. We are supposed to be all Tigers supporters yet the eat your own seams to be the prevailing attitude. Same goes for Yarran, to me it sounds like he is doing all he can to get back. If you have some other "facts" that says this is not the case then post them so we all can be enlightened.
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:clapping this guy like many others, is just using "depression" as an excuse for being a stuffwit
And we are tired of our clubs incompetence costing us membership revenue and salary cap space
Damn right.
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It seems to me the issue is lack of information.
The recent media reports infer his issues were largely personal, as in family.
The mental illness is yet to be determined and the way it was worded, was somewhat nipped in the bud some time ago.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
How can anyone who "levers 40 grand a month" be considered a fool?
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
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Just want to see him on the park!! Really hope it works out for Yarran.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
Jeez u are boring pal. It's obvious how u feel repeating it numerous times isn't going to make it fact
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
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The only fkwits here are the rfc.
I don't even care that Yarran is making money really.
The people who were stupid enough to sign him are at fault here.
Add 500 grand onto the total losses incurred this year due to inept management access the board
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
How can anyone who "levers 40 grand a month" be considered a fool?
The only fools here are the ones who give him the cheque
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Bring on the Malvern crew :cheers
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-committed-to-playing-afl-again-after-12-months-out-of-the-game-with-mental-health-issues/news-story/6d68ae3ddba3e55e871e745c76acbfa8
For those who can't get past the paywall:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/13-chris-yarran.1115266/page-208#post-47619771
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Thanks for the links Dio.
I remain unconvinced that he will return yet I hope he does. At least he is giving it a shot.
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Not to mention, waiting a spot ...
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-committed-to-playing-afl-again-after-12-months-out-of-the-game-with-mental-health-issues/news-story/6d68ae3ddba3e55e871e745c76acbfa8
For those who can't get past the paywall:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/13-chris-yarran.1115266/page-208#post-47619771
Dookster currently seen running through the streets screaming it's not true, it's not true, lies its all damn lies I tell you!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarrans-personal-trainer-tom-couch-reveals-he-set-his-sights-on-afl-return-during-trip-to-thailand/news-story/8e12aa0c796343d3c9d7db75e994cdd4
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That's really positive news much better than the glass half empty stuff doing the rounds previously.
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SNIP
:banghead :banghead
Obviously just done some major editing amd considering doing some more
A number of posters are a few key stokes away from a holiday. Think people should know that after the events of last week that people who fail to obey the simplest of rules will get turfed.
I am not interested in the finger pointing, people trying to justify their reasons for breaking posting rules.
It ends now
But here again are the rules
1. Stick to the topic.
2. You all know the rules DO NOT post anything that is rumour, innuendo, speculation etc. Stick to what is known.
3. Keep the personal sniping of the forum
4. Keep the racists slurs and nonsense off the forum
5. Don't play moderator or you will be suspended as well
It's pretty simple really
And yes i am extremely peeved
And I don't blame you. I bet when you guys started this forum you didn't think it would be such a negative and nasty forum at times. We are supposed to be all Tigers supporters yet the eat your own seams to be the prevailing attitude. Same goes for Yarran, to me it sounds like he is doing all he can to get back. If you have some other "facts" that says this is not the case then post them so we all can be enlightened.
Dunno what the thoughts were when first started, but over the last 3-4 years there has been a definite crackdown on humour that may be risqué or crude, driving away posters who enjoyed a joke and banter, but on the whole were balanced and fair, but the dark negativity has been allowed to to not just fester, but flourish, often under the guise of "humour."
add the dimma like favouritism played, and the forum has been moulded into what you see, whether inadvertently or by choice
as with anything, you reap what you sow
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Nothing serious I hope.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
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That's really positive news much better than the glass half empty stuff doing the rounds previously.
Finally some information!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarrans-personal-trainer-tom-couch-reveals-he-set-his-sights-on-afl-return-during-trip-to-thailand/news-story/8e12aa0c796343d3c9d7db75e994cdd4
For those who can't view past the pay wall:
The moment Yarran set sights on AFL return
JON ANDERSON
Herald Sun
October 30, 2016
TWO months ago he would have said “little chance” and six weeks ago “unlikely”, but events of the past month have convinced Tom Couch that Richmond’s Chris Yarran is a realistic chance to reignite his AFL career.
Yarran, 25, hasn’t played since joining the Tigers from Carlton a year ago, having been granted indefinite leave to deal with personal issues.
But Couch, 28, who has spent three months working as Yarran’s personal trainer, believes the dynamic running back/small forward regained the eye of the tiger after they visited Thailand last month.
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Chris Yarran with Tom Couch in Thailand. Picture: Supplied
“There was a moment over there when I began to see a different side of him and that’s become more and more frequent as the weeks have passed. Now I consistently see someone who talks and walks like an AFL footballer,” said Couch, who played three games for Melbourne in 2012.
“There was this day where we toured the Phi Phi Islands and that night watched the Sydney-Adelaide final. All of a sudden, he turned into this bloke I hadn’t met or seen before. He said, ‘I should be out there’.
“I asked him what he meant and he said, ‘I mightn’t have played for 12 months but I could still run rings around half these blokes’.
“When he said that, that’s when I knew we had a chance. It was the first positive thing he had to say about himself all year. Up until then he was always doubting himself. From then on, it was about building on that momentum.
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Chris Yarran has been working hard to get himself back in shape. Picture: Supplied
“Then we got back and a couple of days later he said he wanted to go to the Geelong-Sydney final. That was another big step because he hadn’t been to a game all year, partly because he didn’t want people to recognise him and didn’t know what they would say to him.”
Yarran will report to Richmond on November 7 for pre-season training with the first-to-fourth-year players.
Couch says he has already noticed a change in the 25-year-old’s attitude towards training but still has a way to go.
“There has been a positive change in Yaz’s life in recent times and his training has improved as a result,” Couch said.
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Chris Yarran and personal trainer Tom Couch run together as Yarran begins his road back to the AFL. Picture: Yuri Kouzmin
“No longer am I out the front kicking and screaming and yelling at him. Now he’s out the front wanting to train.
“He’s embracing rather than resisting the pain that comes with hard training and that is a massive indicator. He’s training because he wants to play AFL, not because someone wants him to.
“At this stage, he isn’t capable of beginning training with the main group on Monday week when they return. However, recent developments have placed him in a much better state mentally and his training performances have been excellent.
“I’d expect him to be training with the main group before Christmas.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarrans-personal-trainer-tom-couch-reveals-he-set-his-sights-on-afl-return-during-trip-to-thailand/news-story/8e12aa0c796343d3c9d7db75e994cdd4
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Yarran committed to playing AFL again
JON ANDERSON
Herald Sun
30 October 2016
A RELAXED and smiling Chris Yarran on Saturday revealed his burning desire to return in 2017 to playing the game he loves.
Yarran, 25, was speaking after completing a fitness circuit at the Tan track under the supervision of his personal trainer Tom Couch.
The pair have been a constant over the past three months as Yarran attempts to rebuild his career with Richmond after missing the entire 2016 season due to mental health issues.
He admits to being a few kilograms overweight but claims he is mentally and physically ready to begin training with Richmond on Monday, November 7.
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Chris Yarran has been training with a personal trainer, Tom Couch in a bid to return to AFL. Picture: Yuri Kouzmin
“There were times during the year when I doubted myself, doubted whether I would ever play again but I’m in a steady place now and I’m ready to start playing some good footy,” said Yarran, who has played 119 games since his debut for Carlton in 2009.
“My personal issues are taken care of and this is the best I’ve felt and looked for quite some time. I really missed playing and I’m doing everything in my power to make sure I play again.
“All I want to do is get back and play some decent footy for the Richmond Football Club which I’m quite capable of doing.”
Couch said Yarran had lost 4kg in the past two weeks and had another 4kg to lose.
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Chris Yarran takes a drink during his personal training session. Picture: Yuri Kouzmin
Yarran read recent criticism of his current physical condition and while accepting it goes with the territory, also says people shouldn’t judge him too quickly.
“I can’t control other people’s opinions but they should look back at my history at Carlton which showed I would come back a little bit overweight but always dropped it quickly. I think people are overreacting because I didn’t play at all in 2016,” he said.
“What I have to do is get out on the training track and have a healthy pre-season. I’ve had a few calf injuries but there’s been no sign of that recently and my general fitness isn’t too bad.
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Chris Yarran says he’s working hard in his bid to return to football. Picture: Yuri Kouzmin
“There’s no reason why I can’t join the main training group pretty quickly. What I have done with Tommy (Couch) has put me in really good stead.”
Yarran was drafted by Carlton with pick No.6 in the 2008 national draft before being traded to Richmond at the end of 2015 for pick 23.
The Tigers’ plan has always been to employ Yarran’s rare evasive skills and pinpoint disposal off halfback.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/chris-yarran-committed-to-playing-afl-again-after-12-months-out-of-the-game-with-mental-health-issues/news-story/6d68ae3ddba3e55e871e745c76acbfa8
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Good to hear that he's in a better place and wants to play.
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He looks like Rodney Rude in that last photo
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If that's classified as overweight then I am obese
At least he is trying and paying for couch himself
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Really good news for him and the club. Hope it continues to go well.
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Currently training in WA under the watchful eye Tom Couch
More likely to play than not play in 2017😉
Has he returned to Perth? He was training at Punt Road last week
Seen on the beach at Scarborough by two people I know yesterday
Both say he looks fit
What is amazing that the media write garbage
Maybe some should put there runners on ( if they own a pair ) and go to the Tan Track at 7am on a Saturday morning and have a look themselves
They might be surprised in who and what they see running around the Tan 😉
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Coming from so far back I assume the odds are against him but with so much media around it recently it sounds like he has his head in a better place and is having a real go. Not holding my breath yet but at least for his own life and well being he is back on track.
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4 kilos in two weeks. Lmao
What a crock.
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Mate. Give it a rest. We understand where you're coming from. I don't think continual abuse of Yarran is adding to the conversation.
We all should show extreme cautious optimism for Chris. It's good news he is on the track and trying to get fitter. We all know he has a long way to go and has a high likelihood of not making it. For the sake of the bloke and the club, isn't it better he makes it and tears it up on field? I couldn't think of anything better myself.
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Not gonna happen mate
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
Im not really defending Yarran. I have no way of knowing the truth behind his trade, depression, weight problem, injuries or any other rumor about him and that is why I will never state that sort of stuff in this forum. Yes I was taking it to the extreme but I am just so sick of people posting things as "facts" when really they have no way of knowing such things. If you have some evidence say so, otherwise it just speculation and I have decided that I will call them out sometimes. Might not change things on this forum but I have the right to question these "facts".
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It's the club's way of issuing damage control. .
They Fkd up in the first place making the deal and now have to play it out like this
so it looks as though they have an idea and were in control
The world doesn't stop for Chris Yarran nor should it.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
Im not really defending Yarran. I have no way of knowing the truth behind his trade, depression, weight problem, injuries or any other rumor about him and that is why I will never state that sort of stuff in this forum. Yes I was taking it to the extreme but I am just so sick of people posting things as "facts" when really they have no way of knowing such things. If you have some evidence say so, otherwise it just speculation and I have decided that I will call them out sometimes. Might not change things on this forum but I have the right to question these "facts".
You could argue that about just about anything.
"Player X looks slow". You jump in and demand the poster provide beep tests.
"Player Y is overweight". You jump in and demand the poster provide skin folds.
"Player Z had a crap game" You jump in and demand all the stats.
You might only deal in facts but part of a forum is also dealing in likelihoods.
The difference is you are argueing likelihoods are impossibilities because they dont meet your own personal test. And its only an issue here (and not other topics) because of your own emotional buy in on this issue.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
Im not really defending Yarran. I have no way of knowing the truth behind his trade, depression, weight problem, injuries or any other rumor about him and that is why I will never state that sort of stuff in this forum. Yes I was taking it to the extreme but I am just so sick of people posting things as "facts" when really they have no way of knowing such things. If you have some evidence say so, otherwise it just speculation and I have decided that I will call them out sometimes. Might not change things on this forum but I have the right to question these "facts".
You could argue that about just about anything.
"Player X looks slow". You jump in and demand the poster provide beep tests.
"Player Y is overweight". You jump in and demand the poster provide skin folds.
"Player Z had a crap game" You jump in and demand all the stats.
You might only deal in facts but part of a forum is also dealing in likelihoods.
The difference is you are argueing likelihoods are impossibilities because they dont meet your own personal test. And its only an issue here (and not other topics) because of your own emotional buy in on this issue.
Player looked slow - stated opinion
Player had a crap game - stated opinion
etc
I have no problem with these, I may or may not agree with these but they are just opinions
Player gets paid $40,000 a month for not playing - stated fact
AFL knew he had depression - stated fact
etc
This I have problem with. Without proof they are plainly speculation.
I am sure you can see the difference.
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
Im not really defending Yarran. I have no way of knowing the truth behind his trade, depression, weight problem, injuries or any other rumor about him and that is why I will never state that sort of stuff in this forum. Yes I was taking it to the extreme but I am just so sick of people posting things as "facts" when really they have no way of knowing such things. If you have some evidence say so, otherwise it just speculation and I have decided that I will call them out sometimes. Might not change things on this forum but I have the right to question these "facts".
You could argue that about just about anything.
"Player X looks slow". You jump in and demand the poster provide beep tests.
"Player Y is overweight". You jump in and demand the poster provide skin folds.
"Player Z had a crap game" You jump in and demand all the stats.
You might only deal in facts but part of a forum is also dealing in likelihoods.
The difference is you are argueing likelihoods are impossibilities because they dont meet your own personal test. And its only an issue here (and not other topics) because of your own emotional buy in on this issue.
Player looked slow - stated opinion
Player had a crap game - stated opinion
etc
I have no problem with these, I may or may not agree with these but they are just opinions
Player gets paid $40,000 a month for not playing - stated fact
AFL knew he had depression - stated fact
etc
This I have problem with. Without proof they are plainly speculation.
I am sure you can see the difference.
Prove the 'difference' is a 'fact' and not a 'stated opinion'
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Perhaps if the Richmond actually gave us a decent level of information whilst this fool levers 40 grand a month out of the club, then people wouldnt have the need to be asking questions.
$480,000 since we signed him.
Proof or any facts that are even close to justify this coment ?
Average salary is 300k in the afl so would be pretty close to the mark, assuming yarran is on 400 plus which he would be
And he got paid all of that ? I will repeat.
Proof or any facts that are close to that to justify this coment ?
With respect I think you are being silly now. We could say the same about every player then (not knowing what they get paid)
I get your defending him which I don't have an issue but to ask for facts to prove that yarran has been paid close to if not 400,000 in a year, is not going to happen. Its as close to a fact as you will find though, unless someone has some intel that he handed it back
Im not really defending Yarran. I have no way of knowing the truth behind his trade, depression, weight problem, injuries or any other rumor about him and that is why I will never state that sort of stuff in this forum. Yes I was taking it to the extreme but I am just so sick of people posting things as "facts" when really they have no way of knowing such things. If you have some evidence say so, otherwise it just speculation and I have decided that I will call them out sometimes. Might not change things on this forum but I have the right to question these "facts".
You could argue that about just about anything.
"Player X looks slow". You jump in and demand the poster provide beep tests.
"Player Y is overweight". You jump in and demand the poster provide skin folds.
"Player Z had a crap game" You jump in and demand all the stats.
You might only deal in facts but part of a forum is also dealing in likelihoods.
The difference is you are argueing likelihoods are impossibilities because they dont meet your own personal test. And its only an issue here (and not other topics) because of your own emotional buy in on this issue.
Player looked slow - stated opinion
Player had a crap game - stated opinion
etc
I have no problem with these, I may or may not agree with these but they are just opinions
Player gets paid $40,000 a month for not playing - stated fact
AFL knew he had depression - stated fact
etc
This I have problem with. Without proof they are plainly speculation.
I am sure you can see the difference.
Prove the 'difference' is a 'fact' and not a 'stated opinion'
Oh I was wrong. Thought you would see the difference. Can't see the point in arguing then.
Please lets not fill this thread with anymore of this so it can stay on the Topic of Chris Yarran.
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Dont know what he is getting paid but it is too much to be doing nothing.
A reasonable assumption would be he is signed on for at least 350k a yr that is about the ave. that is close enough to 30k a month.
Even if there is a clause in his contract where he gets a minimum due to illness or injury it would be reasonable to assume his income would not be halved.
The real point is we have a bloke swanning around doing nothing and he is draining our coffers one way or another and costing us the opportunity to target another mature player and failing that costing someone a list spot. We need to make a call THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO DRAG ON INDEFINATELYwe are running a highly competetive sporting business we are not running a charity.
Are we getting value for money with this 14 disposal, 3 tackle 4 c/p small mid/fwd.
Oxx is right they made a mistake but in typical fashion cant be seen to have erred. He had well documented issues both on field and off field and we did not do due diligence.
Instead of minimising the damage they continue on hoping to save face.
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Dont know what he is getting paid but it is too much to be doing nothing.
A reasonable assumption would be he is signed on for at least 350k a yr that is about the ave. that is close enough to 30k a month.
Even if there is a clause in his contract where he gets a minimum due to illness or injury it would be reasonable to assume his income would not be halved.
Agree. What ever it is its far to much for doing nothing
The real point is we have a bloke swanning around doing nothing and he is draining our coffers one way or another and costing us the opportunity to target another mature player and failing that costing someone a list spot. We need to make a call THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO DRAG ON INDEFINATELYwe are running a highly competetive sporting business we are not running a charity.
Are we getting value for money with this 14 disposal, 3 tackle 4 c/p small mid/fwd.
Oxx is right they made a mistake but in typical fashion cant be seen to have erred. He had well documented issues both on field and off field and we did not do due diligence.
Instead of minimising the damage they continue on hoping to save face.
Im not sure that the issues he has had since being with us were in fact well documented. Sure his injury and his unhappeness with Carlton were known but I went back to the start of this thread and didn't find any sort of suggestion he had mental problems. I would think that it was well known somebody would of bought it up here. As far as making a mistake , well at this stage is certainly looks that way, lets hope he can change the view on this.
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Never bother arguing with a tool Fluffy. They simple drag u down to their level and win on experience.
If they want to sprout unsubstantiated crap because it makes them feel good then not much we can do to help them
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The real point is we have a bloke swanning around
You appear to suggest he is having a good time, how do you know what he has been through?
and he is draining our coffers one way or another
This is hardly the case and a bit melodramatic
We need to make a call THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO DRAG ON INDEFINATELY
This won't go on indefinitely, once again melodramatic but all i would expect from an ott whinger
we are running a highly competetive sporting business
Are we?, I would argue for the last 30 years or so we have been anything but highly competitive, I thought you also knew this as you continue to barrel on about how hopeless the RFC is.
He had well documented issues both on field and off field
I am calling a big bs on this, there were no off field concerns raised on this forum about Yarren and off field issues, from memory the concerns were about his on field performance ie lack of high possessions and consistency
Unless OE or WP can remember deleting all the supposed well documented posts on his off field issues then I am saying you are making poo up in poor taste
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If he comes good, We might just start looking dangerous.
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if he comes good , oxus might just catch his depression
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if he comes good , oxus might just catch his depression
Be careful what you wish for
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if he comes good , oxus might just catch his depression
Just another on the list of his many psychological issues
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Holy hell. More than 7kg to lose there.
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Was past it when we recruited him. Couldn't cope with the pressure of the AFL with ever increasing frequency throughout his career - such as it was.
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Was past it when we recruited him. Couldn't cope with the pressure of the AFL with ever increasing frequency throughout his career - such as it was.
This
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Holy hell. More than 7kg to lose there.
Forgeddaboudit
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Mick Warner: "Yarran is good news for Richmond. There's no doubt he was in a bad place, but he's turned the corner with help from Tom Couch"
https://twitter.com/3AWSportsToday/status/793719863210446848
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LMFAO and he was only an average player before he came to us.The logical conclusion is hes a lazy stuff.
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Yeah he'll work himself into shape to secure a position on the list/salary for 2017, after that who knows what he might end up on leave again.
Bloke has a lot of faith to repay...
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He's a genius
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(http://www.tasteofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fat-Bastard-%E2%80%93-Austin-Powers-The-Spy-Who-Shagged-Me-Austin-Powers-and-Goldmember.jpg)
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(https://s21.postimg.org/82hy6u43b/image.jpg)
Looking good
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so when is it due? has he picked a name?
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Needs time. Should be ready to go in the second third of the season. Excited by what he can bring to the side.
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Needs time. Should be ready to go in the second third of the season. Excited by what he can bring to the side.
We should give him a bit more time so he can come back in year 3 absolutely primed
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Needs time. Should be ready to go in the second third of the season. Excited by what he can bring to the side.
We should give him a bit more time so he can come back in year 3 absolutely primed
Prime Rib
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Mick Warner: "Yarran is good news for Richmond. There's no doubt he was in a bad place, but he's turned the corner"
.........and gone straight into a KFC.
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
You obviously never worked at KFC :lol
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
What are you on about?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JfQwwfE1sMYik/giphy.gif)
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
not at all, you give me too much credit..but I admit some projection may have been in play. It is very addictive after all.
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
Can you share some of your work experience with Us?
You obviously never worked at KFC :lol
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
Yeah sure, when I was 13 I needed a job and the local KFC down the road was hiring so I worked there 18 months. Lots of different people came in but Islanders were definitely the most enthusiastic. Middle aged men with huge ego's and their thumb firmly up their keister were easily the worst though.
Can you share some of your work experience with Us?
You obviously never worked at KFC :lol
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Middle aged men with egos. Lol
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Middle aged men with egos. Lol
What's so funny about that?
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Lol
ditto
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
maybe, but they do love their fried chicken
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Yarran told the Sunday Herald Sun last week that while he is still overweight he believes he return to AFL football.
The former Carlton running defender has told the club he will return to training in an attempt to shed weight after several months of training away from Punt Road.
Richmond is hopeful rather than confident he can regain his training intensity and put together a full season of fitness work.
A payout is still a realistic prospect should Yarran fail to meet fitness requirements but if he can stay free of calf complaints he could find a way to make an improbable comeback to AFL football.
Source: Jon Ralph, Herald-Sun (https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/richmond%E2%80%99s-star-recruit-dion-prestia-will-be-able-to-complete-a-full-pre-season-with-the-tigers.1151383/)
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reading between the lines... forgedaboudit
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Let's see what happens on Monday
Guarantee the media will there in droves
Will be nowhere to hide
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Let's see what happens on Monday
Guarantee the media will there in droves
Will be nowhere to hide
It wouldn't surprise me if the Club makes him train away from Punt Rd on Monday to avoid the media throng.
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..I see what you did there, black people...fried chicken...
Except that that stereotype has no basis in Australian colloquial nomenclature and was largely culturally appropriated.
#SJW
Yeah sure, when I was 13 I needed a job and the local KFC down the road was hiring so I worked there 18 months. Lots of different people came in but Islanders were definitely the most enthusiastic. Middle aged men with huge ego's and their thumb firmly up their keister were easily the worst though.
Can you share some of your work experience with Us?
You obviously never worked at KFC :lol
Mate I'm an academic, never worked a day in my life :shh
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
You serious?
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
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Yoo mus wok hahder! All you house belong to me.
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Yoo mus wok hahder! All you house belong to me.
:lol Owl on Sunday afternoon...
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Yoo mus wok hahder! All you house belong to me.
Is that Owl Jing Ping? Xi's bro?
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
? $80K. My house cost me $250K. Now worth $1.4m.
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
not to mention disproportionally expensive utilities, groceries and the like. Almost at world high standards.
Environment stuffed - check.
And you can thank the baby boomer shareholders and their capitalist overlords.
What a legacy for humanity.
One could write a book of about 50 chapters......"Parasitic Generation''
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
Smashed avo breakfast is an invention of Gen X.
Probably will go down in history as the only good thing they did.
:lol
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
not to mention disproportionally expensive utilities, groceries and the like. Almost at world high standards.
Environment stuffed - check.
And you can thank the baby boomer shareholders and their capitalist overlords.
What a legacy for humanity.
One could write a book of about 50 chapters......"Parasitic Generation''
So you're saying the current Gen Y's and millennia types and their mobile phones which last a maximum of 12 months before they throw them away only to buy another one are looking after the environment? :lol :lol :lol
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
Smashed avo breakfast is an invention of Gen X.
Probably will go down in history as the only good thing they did.
:lol
Gen Y actually
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
not to mention disproportionally expensive utilities, groceries and the like. Almost at world high standards.
Environment stuffed - check.
And you can thank the baby boomer shareholders and their capitalist overlords.
What a legacy for humanity.
One could write a book of about 50 chapters......"Parasitic Generation''
So you're saying the current Gen Y's and millennia types and their mobile phones which last a maximum of 12 months before they throw them away only to buy another one are looking after the environment? :lol :lol :lol
Your cretinous generation is the first that will leave your children with a worse life than your own. Hope you're happy ;D
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
why would you get a $1.2m loan?
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Mummy and daddy support you through Uni then? :lol
Those baby boomers and Gen X's stuffed the economy anyway so what else are they good for?
Maybe if the newer generations worked 80 hours a week (like we had to) and stopped wasting their money the economy wouldn't be stuffed.... :shh
Not to mention the smashed avo breakfasts.
:lol
Hey, you could have afforded a house and smashed avo breakfast in your day but thanks to you, the younger generation can't!
You forgot to add the interest I was paying was over 17% for my cheap home loan. I also started off on $7 per hour as an intern.
You can't be selective in your comparisons.
And that isn't?
What would you prefer, 17% of $80k or 4% of $1.2m?
not to mention disproportionally expensive utilities, groceries and the like. Almost at world high standards.
Environment stuffed - check.
And you can thank the baby boomer shareholders and their capitalist overlords.
What a legacy for humanity.
One could write a book of about 50 chapters......"Parasitic Generation''
So you're saying the current Gen Y's and millennia types and their mobile phones which last a maximum of 12 months before they throw them away only to buy another one are looking after the environment? :lol :lol :lol
Your cretinous generation is the first that will leave your children with a worse life than your own. Hope you're happy ;D
My children will be far better off than me. They'll have all that I have made plus what they've achieved. Plus a 35 hour week, holidays OS (which I never got till I was 23) and better medical treatment for a much healthier life. You need to re-evaluate things mate!
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I figured you might say that, just a lazy night on the couch posting poo :thumbsup
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Yeah look let's stick to the topic.
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What's wrong with the millennials is the absurd softness and entitlement. Want everything for nothing. Don't want to work hard. Don't want to buy properties outside of the inner-middle suburbs. Don't want to SACRIFICE. Don't want to give up their gadgets and new cars and overseas holidays.
But still expect cheap housing, good paying jobs despite no education, and it's all somebody else's fault.
Please it's much better than that with a better attitude and it's up to this generation to fix things like the environment given that we know so much better now.
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Nah post Hongkers handover prices went monopoly money and haven't looked back. People with houses don't want to admit it but, self interest is highly motivated. As for the environment, we went past the tipping point a little earlier than they predicted while everybody argued with the idiots, your grandkid's futures are stuffed courtesy of greedy bs artists.
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Lot of people flying here.
Should have brought Troy Taylor a house.
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Back to the topic ppl.
From the AFL website:
Chris Yarran joined in Richmond's first day of pre-season today, running laps at Punt Road Oval with teammates.
The smooth-moving 25-year-old missed the Tigers' entire campaign this year after taking indefinite leave to deal with personal and family issues.
The time away from the game has left him battling to regain full fitness, but the former Carlton star has been working with a personal trainer to prepare him for pre-season.
Yarran is yet to play a match for Richmond after being traded from Carlton for pick No.19 at the end of last year.
He struggled with calf issues before undergoing foot surgery on the eve of the season, and then stepped away from the game completely.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-07/back-to-work-for-afl-players-as-preseason-training-begins
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Good to see the club not try and hide him away
Also on twitter club confirmed Dan Butler was at training
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Say what you want about the fella (and me because I'm sure I'll cop something for saying this ::)) but he looks like he has lost a few kg's even from that photo posted 1-2 weeks ago
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Good to see him back at training
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Say what you want about the fella (and me because I'm sure I'll cop something for saying this ::)) but he looks like he has lost a few kg's even from that photo posted 1-2 weeks ago
I reckon the same.
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Smiling Yarran hits the track for Tigers
afl.com.au
November 7, 2016 12:01 PM
CHRIS Yarran has begun pre-season training at Richmond on Monday, running laps at Punt Road Oval as he bids to remain a part of the Tigers' 2017 campaign.
Yarran smiled for the cameras as he ran laps and joined his younger teammates in skills work in the first day back at Tigerland.
Richmond football manager Neil Balme said last week that the club was hopeful of retaining Yarran after the defender missed all of the 2016 season with personal issues.
The smooth-moving 25-year-old doubted during the year whether he would make it back to play AFL, but after undertaking a strict fitness regime over the past three months he is confident of reigniting his career.
Yarran's off-season program centered on personal training sessions with VFL player and ex-Demon Tom Couch.
The former Blue could effectively be another recruit for the Tigers next season, adding some pace and class alongside ex-Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia and former Cats tough nut Josh Caddy.
Yarran, who played 119 games and booted 90 goals for the Blues, is yet to play a game for Richmond and is contracted to the Tigers until the end of 2018.
Richmond would face a blowout in its 2017 player payments if it did part ways with Yarran two years before his contract expires.
The Tigers would be bound to pay out his contract in full, with that entire amount to then sit under its 2017 salary cap, rather than spread over two seasons.
An option for the club would be to re-rookie Yarran, even if he was no longer part of the program, allowing a portion of his sizeable payout to sit outside the salary cap.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-07/smiling-yarran-hits-the-track-for-tigers
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Love the pics of Yarran. If he makes it back it will be huge for our team and our ball movement game day.
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Say what you want about the fella (and me because I'm sure I'll cop something for saying this ::)) but he looks like he has lost a few kg's even from that photo posted 1-2 weeks ago
Almost as good a shape as most of the blokes on OER ;)
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Say what you want about the fella (and me because I'm sure I'll cop something for saying this ::)) but he looks like he has lost a few kg's even from that photo posted 1-2 weeks ago
Almost as good a shape as most of the blokes on OER ;)
Hmmm the last time I was that shape was 25 years ago
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He does look better
All jokes aside, hope it works out, can play
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He'll be like a new recruit :shh
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Will be like getting an extra first rounder. :shh :shh
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Looks in pretty good nick to me
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looks better but still looks like he needs to lose 5-7kegs
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he still looks big
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Looked alright to me. He will lose 5kg easy before the season.
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Freakin fat lazy bastard taking us for a ride.
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Freakin fat lazy bastard taking us for a ride.
Don't hold back. Let us know what you really think!
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Will be like getting an extra first rounder. :shh :shh
Will actually be losing 2 x 2nd rounders........and a truck load of cash!
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Freakin fat lazy bastard taking us for a ride.
You maybe right but gee you are setting youself up for another one of those "Rance" moments. Let's all hope so.
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Freakin fat lazy bastard taking us for a ride.
You maybe right but gee you are setting youself up for another one of those "Rance" moments. Let's all hope so.
The Mad Scientist"
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Yeah may of lost a yard or two of pace...caught him on video
fast forward 0:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yltlJEdSAHw
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racist....
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htf did you come to that conclusion?
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Come on now, you're better than that....
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well it was meant to be he was like the fat cheetah, he use to be fast but now he is fat plus the video is a bit of a laugh, still can't see the racist bit but my brain isn't looking for that angle I spose.
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Gone back home for a couple of weeks rest
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Some people think he's the indigenous Chris Judd. :rollin
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"Secret Women's Business".... :shh
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Gone back home for a couple of weeks rest
lol
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Gone back home for a couple of weeks rest
lol
Not at training ? Reported by some. Rest day?
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It could be any number of things
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Richmond poster on BF reckons he's back in Perth doing light training with his personal trainer - who I assume is Tom Couch...didn't expand on it....finished the post with a smiling emoticon...so interpret that however you like...
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It could be any number of things
We are only allowed to speculate if it's positive
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Richmond poster on BF reckons he's back in Perth doing light training with his personal trainer - who I assume is Tom Couch...didn't expand on it....finished the post with a smiling emoticon...so interpret that however you like...
Tom Couch just took the head coaching Roll at North Launceston so I think he might have bigger things on his plate than PT'ing Yarran....
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Yeah big job coaching North Launceston.....
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Yeah big job coaching North Launceston.....
Relax :lol
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It could be any number of things
We are only allowed to speculate if it's positive
We're only allowed to be positive if its speculation...
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Richmond poster on BF reckons he's back in Perth doing light training with his personal trainer - who I assume is Tom Couch...didn't expand on it....finished the post with a smiling emoticon...so interpret that however you like...
Saw Tom Couch in Torquay today
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Along with Eddie betts and Mitch Robinson. Wedding in town and a lot of players around.
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I'm so special, I need a personal trainer to achieve what everyone else does off of their own back.
RFC - The enablers.
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I'm so special, I need a personal trainer to achieve what everyone else does off of their own back.
RFC - The enablers.
So ignorant
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I'm so special, I need a personal trainer to achieve what everyone else does off of their own back.
RFC - The enablers.
So ignorant
#Left
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Was at Dennis Armfield's wedding in Melbourne over the weekend...
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Looks happy and relaxed. Let's hope he hits the training track hard tomorrow. :clapping
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Good to see him drinking beer. That's going to help him lose weight
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Good to see him drinking beer. That's going to help him lose weight
and not just one
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Good to see him drinking beer. That's going to help him lose weight
and not just one
I assume he is holding the camera man's beer Gracie.
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Is that a slim fit shirt he is wearing? looks a lot fitter than 3 weeks ago.
good on him.
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Yaz out training with the main group. Hope to catch him in the car park with Chucky. :shh
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make sure you get an autograph
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Yaz out training with the main group. Hope to catch him in the car park with Chucky. :shh
Two middle aged blokes scurrying up to Yarran
*Chris, Chris - can we get your autograph*
"Ah yeah, sure guys"
**Internally** "Geez, this club! Where's the nearest Bottle O?!"
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WILL YAZ MAKE IT?
Chris Yarran continues his bid for an AFL comeback. Pictures: Wayne Ludbey, Michael Wilson (AFL Media)
(http://media.fyre.co/GSGknEJXTzqfU3tL3Y1Q_Yaz%20laugh.JPG)
(http://media.fyre.co/h5u9t2INTGaHUjgts8zQ_Yaz%20Prestia.JPG)
(http://media.fyre.co/7Yzkjh0GTXebtpCTmZSh_Yarran%20hot2.JPG)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-clubs-ramp-up-preseason-training-in-scorching-heat/news-story/a183784bd723dd9eef0057c1e96d4a20#load-story-comments
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WILL YAZ MAKE IT?
Chris Yarran continues his bid for an AFL comeback. Pictures: Wayne Ludbey, Michael Wilson (AFL Media)
(http://media.fyre.co/GSGknEJXTzqfU3tL3Y1Q_Yaz%20laugh.JPG)
(http://media.fyre.co/h5u9t2INTGaHUjgts8zQ_Yaz%20Prestia.JPG)
(http://media.fyre.co/7Yzkjh0GTXebtpCTmZSh_Yarran%20hot2.JPG)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-clubs-ramp-up-preseason-training-in-scorching-heat/news-story/a183784bd723dd9eef0057c1e96d4a20#load-story-comments
He doesn't look any fatter that our pick 6.
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His legs look really worrying. No power
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My old coach used to make the boomsticks wear garbage bags wrapped around their guts
May I suggest someone drop a roll off to punt road
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I believe the club are referring to his ample tummy as his, "Safety Zone"
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He's done. Officially released from contract.
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Best for both parties...club has been under pressure to cover up yet another cluster stuff of a trade
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Whoever was responsible for recruiting him should also be released from their contract. Disappointing.
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Gone.
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good stuff him and stuff the idiots who got him there.
good time to vote people.
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He's done. Officially released from contract.
Oh well, looking on the bright side, without him (and Maric and Batchelor and Lambert and Butler) we have slots and money for Barlow and Richards.
Oh wait...... :facepalm
At least now we can either take more really, really lowly ranked juniors in the drafts or rejects from other clubs that have been ignored multiple times.
Go Blair, right up your alley son. Now who's been delisted by Port.
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Unsure if i can say this but heard he caught some players listening to one of the bee gees classics....then resigned
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Well, after 14 months and 160+ pages of absolute crap, absolute donuts.
Close thread.
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It was money for jam eh yaz. Good while it lasted ya fat lazy bastard dont let the door hit ya on the way out.
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Didn't train well...
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Unsure if i can say this but heard he caught some players listening to one of the bee gees classics....then resigned
Fanny be tender with my heart?
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Didn't train well...
Autograph numbers were down at yesterdays session
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Looking pretty fit and slim. Big year for yazzzzzy.
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GFY.
If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
Be honest with yourselves
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You're a visionary Ox.
Maybe Simon Wallace and Peter Casey can get you a job as list manager! :clapping
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GFY.
If this club picks up yarran, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them :facepalm
Just another little pickle with disciplinary issues.
Be honest with yourselves
Knew this would pop up and rightly so
Clubs is a stuffin basketcase at the minute, and the best part is there is zero accountability
The question is are Wallace and co just going to continue doing what the others have done before them
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Pressure at training must have been intense :snidegrin
seriously l knew nothing about this
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Maybe we are going to Rookie list him?
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Fremantle or West Coast might.... :shh
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The Chris Yarran story: From tough times to the AFL and his battle within
Jon Anderson,
Herald Sun
November 26, 2016
CHRIS Yarran wanted to play AFL football. He still does, and still might. But in the end it was the weight of obligation and expectation that got the man with the dancing feet and wicked sidestep.
Maybe in another era he could have survived what has become an increasingly pressurised environment, but anxiety attacks don’t play no favourites and that’s where Yarran was at as he attempted to resurrect his derailed career at Richmond.
It’s a condition that could see him smiling with that cheeky “Yaz” grin, the one that adorned the back page of this newspaper on Tuesday morning, leading the optimistic to believe he was close to bringing one of the best shows in town back to the bright lights.
But it can also strip you bare, and that’s where Yarran has been at in recent times. Up and at ‘em for three straight days then as flat as a sh***-carter’s hat on the fourth, listless and preferring to lie in bed than join in training with a group of Richmond players that had done their best to welcome him back into the fold.
He began back with the new boys on November and for a couple of days looked the part, overweight but starting to shed the kilos and prepared to do his share. Then on the third day as he headed to Punt Rd a fear came over him, one that raised the possibility of just driving west until he hit the Nullabor highway on his way home to Perth.
Training was replaced by a meeting with the club psychologist. It remained in-house as Richmond endeavoured to uphold their side of the bargain that had been struck when they gave up pick 19 for him in the 2015 national draft. The pattern continued over the next two weeks until the joint announcement that he would retire from the AFL.
For Yarran it brought immediate relief, the dark cloud that was forever hovering being replaced a ray of sunshine as he no longer fretted about letting Richmond down. For his manager and friend Paul Connors it was the right decision for the time. Connors is defensive when it comes to Yarran, tired of the innuendo that his mental health problems were some kind of ruse.
“I can mount a compelling argument that he’s the most resilient player in the AFL given what he’s been through, in fact he’s a great story to have lasted. But it’s obviously very sad that he won’t be playing for Richmond next year,” said Connors.
“The injuries ultimately killed him and by extension he felt as if he was letting down his teammates at Richmond. And please make this point, the players at Richmond were terrific, as were people such as Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley.”
To understand the Chris Yarran story you need to go back to Perth in 2008 when he was being raised by his mother Deb, his father Malcolm having already served eight years of a lengthy prison sentence that isn’t going to finish any time soon. Yarran was living in Bushby Street, Midvale, an address that goes down in AFL annals given Nic Naitanui (West Coast) and Michael Walters (Fremantle) were also raised there, the trio forever friends.
Naturally enough his father’s incarceration had a profound effect on Yarran as noted in 2008 by AIS-AFL high performance coach Alan McConnell: “When he arrived, he was incapable of holding a conversation,’’ McConnell said. “If you asked him a question he would get so nervous and anxious that the best he could do is repeat that question to you. To get him to engage with you was impossible.”
Over time Yarran started to come out of himself as Michael Voss noted when coaching an AIS under-18 Academy squad that toured South Africa in 2006. Voss described Yarran as “just a good kid”, and one whose rare eye to hand talents came to the fore when a mugger tried to rob him in a Cape Town market.
“I know he’s got a good right hand. He got held at knifepoint and gave a fake hand to the left and a short jab with the right. The next thing the mugger was down on the deck so I knew he could handle himself.”
That side of Yarran has not been sighted in his time in the AFL system apart from a skirmish at the MCG that left Paul Chapman with a cut above his eye and Yarran with a three-week holiday. By that stage in 2015 there were signs he was unhappy, and frustrated. Wayne Hughes, the man who recruited him for Carlton with Pick 6 in the 2008 draft, believes that was around that time his career started to unravel.
Yarran always had potential, coming up through U18 ranks in Western Australia with the likes of Brisbane’s Daniel Rich and West Coast ruck star Nic Naitanui.
Hughes first saw Yarran in the National U16s and not surprisingly liked what he saw. Prior to the draft the Carlton hierarchy discussed trading their Pick 6 but Hughes convinced them otherwise.
“You asked would I have taken him at Pick 1 if we had it? No, Nic Naitanui was clearly ahead of either Michael Hurley and Chris Yarran. But when the talk started about trading that pick I argued we couldn’t afford to cost ourselves someone like Chris Yarran.
“We were obviously aware his father was in jail but in visiting Chris’s home it convinced us he was going to be the right pick. He was doing his best at school and his mum Deb was a terrific, a hardworking lady who kept an impressive house.
“At Carlton I think it took ‘Rats’ (Carlton coach Brett Ratten) a while to embrace him as a player but once he watched that ABC documentary ‘Three Boys Dreaming’ he understood where Chris had come from.
“His best time was when he was with Michelle Trewartha (who worked in the club’s media department). She was a part of his life as much as anyone had been in the past at Carlton.”
Around the time of their breakup stories started to emerge of regular Casino sightings of Yarran as his life started to spiral. But he never became what is known in the AFL industry as a “bad person”, Yarran hurting himself more than others.
Even today there is a view held by some that Yarran, while he is aware of his rare talents, doesn’t believe he deserves to be playing AFL football, and throughout his eight years in the system he has constantly worried about stories being written of his father’s incarceration.
He knows he can make a football talk and run rings around your average AFL player but it’s the expectation that goes with it he can’t handle. In 2007 Gary Ablettt snr admitted to regularly breaking down under the weight of public hope during his halcyon days with the Cats.
Paul Connors believes a year in the WAFL, where the scrutiny is far less, would benefit Yarran: “I would love him to play footy with Swan Districts where he has some terrific friends in Tony Notte and Todd Banfield. Clancee Pearce and Jamie Bennell will also be there,” said Connors.
“The structure of a football club would be beneficial for Chris. Could he play in the AFL again? Yes, but he needs to play in 2017 with Swan Districts. He was very lonely in Melbourne because he had lost a lot of his Carlton network and he didn’t feel that he had been able to form those bonds at Richmond, something that would have been easier had he played.”
He has had very little contact with the off-field leaders of Carlton since his departure last year, something that surprises and disappoints some of Yarran’s friends, but he was delighted to be invited to Dennis Armfield’s wedding last weekend.
Armfield took to Instagram to express his feelings: “So proud of you big fella. We must encourage everyone to be able to speak up and seek help. We need to support you and I know I definitely will. I’ll be here for you anywhere, anytime. Loved having you by my side at my wedding. We have come so far, you have taught me so much (kicking around the body) love you brother.”
Eddie Betts, David Ellard, Jeff Garlett, Kane Lucas and Mitch Robinson remain friends from his Carlton days, whereas Tom Couch has seen as much of Yarran as anyone over the past four months in his role as personal trainer and confidant.
Couch, who this week moved to Tasmania as playing coach of North Launceston and head of the Simon Black Academy in that city, starts chuckling when asked about Yarran.
“He’s a cheeky little bugger ‘Yaz’, bouncing off the walls when he’s up and about. He makes you laugh and you want to be in his company. That’s why it’s so hard to see him when he’s flat. There’s nothing you can say to help him out of it. But he’s far from the only one in that situation on or just off AFL lists. It’s just the ‘Yaz’ is the highest profile of them,” said Couch, 28.
“I thought had he got to Christmas he would have been right. Physically and mentally he would have then known he could make it. Sadly he couldn’t quite get here but speaking to him during the week, it’s the right decision for the time.
“The Richmond players were very good to him, very welcoming. Blokes like Sam Lloyd and Jack Riewoldt, but really all of them. He’ll stay in WA and you know what, I reckon he will fall on his feet. He’s socially smart and good with people. He’ll be fine because he’s switched on.
“He just had to get away from the pressure that goes with being paid big money. From outside it seems like the best life, playing sport for a living and getting really well paid but most people have little idea what it’s like inside the bubble. I can tell you this, if a kid who got drafted on Friday decided to keep a diary, it would make some book.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-chris-yarran-story-from-tough-times-to-the-afl-and-his-battle-within/news-story/4a363a7809290c1d50cad7813b62aee1
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sobering read
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Long read. Needs some pictures of dragons and stuff to make it more interesting.
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I didn't find it hard to read, everyone has a story - his was interesting. It would've been more interesting had he been playing for another club
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The Chris Yarran story: From tough times to the AFL and his battle within
Jon Anderson,
Herald Sun
November 26, 2016
CHRIS Yarran wanted to play AFL football. He still does, and still might. But in the end it was the weight of obligation and expectation that got the man with the dancing feet and wicked sidestep.
Maybe in another era he could have survived what has become an increasingly pressurised environment, but anxiety attacks don’t play no favourites and that’s where Yarran was at as he attempted to resurrect his derailed career at Richmond.
It’s a condition that could see him smiling with that cheeky “Yaz” grin, the one that adorned the back page of this newspaper on Tuesday morning, leading the optimistic to believe he was close to bringing one of the best shows in town back to the bright lights.
But it can also strip you bare, and that’s where Yarran has been at in recent times. Up and at ‘em for three straight days then as flat as a sh***-carter’s hat on the fourth, listless and preferring to lie in bed than join in training with a group of Richmond players that had done their best to welcome him back into the fold.
He began back with the new boys on November and for a couple of days looked the part, overweight but starting to shed the kilos and prepared to do his share. Then on the third day as he headed to Punt Rd a fear came over him, one that raised the possibility of just driving west until he hit the Nullabor highway on his way home to Perth.
Training was replaced by a meeting with the club psychologist. It remained in-house as Richmond endeavoured to uphold their side of the bargain that had been struck when they gave up pick 19 for him in the 2015 national draft. The pattern continued over the next two weeks until the joint announcement that he would retire from the AFL.
For Yarran it brought immediate relief, the dark cloud that was forever hovering being replaced a ray of sunshine as he no longer fretted about letting Richmond down. For his manager and friend Paul Connors it was the right decision for the time. Connors is defensive when it comes to Yarran, tired of the innuendo that his mental health problems were some kind of ruse.
“I can mount a compelling argument that he’s the most resilient player in the AFL given what he’s been through, in fact he’s a great story to have lasted. But it’s obviously very sad that he won’t be playing for Richmond next year,” said Connors.
“The injuries ultimately killed him and by extension he felt as if he was letting down his teammates at Richmond. And please make this point, the players at Richmond were terrific, as were people such as Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley.”
To understand the Chris Yarran story you need to go back to Perth in 2008 when he was being raised by his mother Deb, his father Malcolm having already served eight years of a lengthy prison sentence that isn’t going to finish any time soon. Yarran was living in Bushby Street, Midvale, an address that goes down in AFL annals given Nic Naitanui (West Coast) and Michael Walters (Fremantle) were also raised there, the trio forever friends.
Naturally enough his father’s incarceration had a profound effect on Yarran as noted in 2008 by AIS-AFL high performance coach Alan McConnell: “When he arrived, he was incapable of holding a conversation,’’ McConnell said. “If you asked him a question he would get so nervous and anxious that the best he could do is repeat that question to you. To get him to engage with you was impossible.”
Over time Yarran started to come out of himself as Michael Voss noted when coaching an AIS under-18 Academy squad that toured South Africa in 2006. Voss described Yarran as “just a good kid”, and one whose rare eye to hand talents came to the fore when a mugger tried to rob him in a Cape Town market.
“I know he’s got a good right hand. He got held at knifepoint and gave a fake hand to the left and a short jab with the right. The next thing the mugger was down on the deck so I knew he could handle himself.”
That side of Yarran has not been sighted in his time in the AFL system apart from a skirmish at the MCG that left Paul Chapman with a cut above his eye and Yarran with a three-week holiday. By that stage in 2015 there were signs he was unhappy, and frustrated. Wayne Hughes, the man who recruited him for Carlton with Pick 6 in the 2008 draft, believes that was around that time his career started to unravel.
Yarran always had potential, coming up through U18 ranks in Western Australia with the likes of Brisbane’s Daniel Rich and West Coast ruck star Nic Naitanui.
Hughes first saw Yarran in the National U16s and not surprisingly liked what he saw. Prior to the draft the Carlton hierarchy discussed trading their Pick 6 but Hughes convinced them otherwise.
“You asked would I have taken him at Pick 1 if we had it? No, Nic Naitanui was clearly ahead of either Michael Hurley and Chris Yarran. But when the talk started about trading that pick I argued we couldn’t afford to cost ourselves someone like Chris Yarran.
“We were obviously aware his father was in jail but in visiting Chris’s home it convinced us he was going to be the right pick. He was doing his best at school and his mum Deb was a terrific, a hardworking lady who kept an impressive house.
“At Carlton I think it took ‘Rats’ (Carlton coach Brett Ratten) a while to embrace him as a player but once he watched that ABC documentary ‘Three Boys Dreaming’ he understood where Chris had come from.
“His best time was when he was with Michelle Trewartha (who worked in the club’s media department). She was a part of his life as much as anyone had been in the past at Carlton.”
Around the time of their breakup stories started to emerge of regular Casino sightings of Yarran as his life started to spiral. But he never became what is known in the AFL industry as a “bad person”, Yarran hurting himself more than others.
Even today there is a view held by some that Yarran, while he is aware of his rare talents, doesn’t believe he deserves to be playing AFL football, and throughout his eight years in the system he has constantly worried about stories being written of his father’s incarceration.
He knows he can make a football talk and run rings around your average AFL player but it’s the expectation that goes with it he can’t handle. In 2007 Gary Ablettt snr admitted to regularly breaking down under the weight of public hope during his halcyon days with the Cats.
Paul Connors believes a year in the WAFL, where the scrutiny is far less, would benefit Yarran: “I would love him to play footy with Swan Districts where he has some terrific friends in Tony Notte and Todd Banfield. Clancee Pearce and Jamie Bennell will also be there,” said Connors.
“The structure of a football club would be beneficial for Chris. Could he play in the AFL again? Yes, but he needs to play in 2017 with Swan Districts. He was very lonely in Melbourne because he had lost a lot of his Carlton network and he didn’t feel that he had been able to form those bonds at Richmond, something that would have been easier had he played.”
He has had very little contact with the off-field leaders of Carlton since his departure last year, something that surprises and disappoints some of Yarran’s friends, but he was delighted to be invited to Dennis Armfield’s wedding last weekend.
Armfield took to Instagram to express his feelings: “So proud of you big fella. We must encourage everyone to be able to speak up and seek help. We need to support you and I know I definitely will. I’ll be here for you anywhere, anytime. Loved having you by my side at my wedding. We have come so far, you have taught me so much (kicking around the body) love you brother.”
Eddie Betts, David Ellard, Jeff Garlett, Kane Lucas and Mitch Robinson remain friends from his Carlton days, whereas Tom Couch has seen as much of Yarran as anyone over the past four months in his role as personal trainer and confidant.
Couch, who this week moved to Tasmania as playing coach of North Launceston and head of the Simon Black Academy in that city, starts chuckling when asked about Yarran.
“He’s a cheeky little bugger ‘Yaz’, bouncing off the walls when he’s up and about. He makes you laugh and you want to be in his company. That’s why it’s so hard to see him when he’s flat. There’s nothing you can say to help him out of it. But he’s far from the only one in that situation on or just off AFL lists. It’s just the ‘Yaz’ is the highest profile of them,” said Couch, 28.
“I thought had he got to Christmas he would have been right. Physically and mentally he would have then known he could make it. Sadly he couldn’t quite get here but speaking to him during the week, it’s the right decision for the time.
“The Richmond players were very good to him, very welcoming. Blokes like Sam Lloyd and Jack Riewoldt, but really all of them. He’ll stay in WA and you know what, I reckon he will fall on his feet. He’s socially smart and good with people. He’ll be fine because he’s switched on.
“He just had to get away from the pressure that goes with being paid big money. From outside it seems like the best life, playing sport for a living and getting really well paid but most people have little idea what it’s like inside the bubble. I can tell you this, if a kid who got drafted on Friday decided to keep a diary, it would make some book.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-chris-yarran-story-from-tough-times-to-the-afl-and-his-battle-within/news-story/4a363a7809290c1d50cad7813b62aee1
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Long read. Needs some pictures of dragons and stuff to make it more interesting.
Bunyips, not dragons - show some cultural sensitivity ffs....
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Long read. Needs some pictures of dragons and stuff to make it more interesting.
Bunyips, not dragons - show some cultural sensitivity ffs....
Wait, I'm not sure who I'm meant to claim is being the racist here. Can someone help? Or do I just get to pick what suits me and will get the biggest reaction?
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Well, I'm triggered.
Where's my safe space?
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Well eff me right? I can't keep up with this PC bull
Well, I'm triggered.
Where's my safe space?
The internet, I'm sure you'll find plenty of blogs where you can read about whatever the hell trigger you. Or better yet make your own and vent about how everyone should conform to your idealogy and then if anyone disagrees call them sexist, racist, lefties, SJW, or whatever else you can think of even if it doesn't apply
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
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Geez Oxana, how does your husband put up with your constant bitching?
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Geez Oxana, how does your husband put up with your constant bitching?
Oxana, Oxana....
Sounds like a Toto song! ;D
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cept toto never sung about how sweet it was on your knees
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Wasn't this "BJ" Hartley's baby? Wasn't he the orchestrator of this collosal stuff up? This charlatan former data entry specialist should be marched out the door but instead this bloke will probably get a new contract.
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Wasn't this "BJ" Hartley's baby? Wasn't he the orchestrator of this collosal stuff up? This charlatan former data entry specialist should be marched out the door but instead this bloke will probably get a new contract.
No way, he has still has currency after finding us Chaplin and Hunt to go with Grigg and Maric and Banfleid and Lonergan and Matt Thomas and Andrew Thompson
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
here here ox. Those two second rounders we lost sure leaves a bad taste in the mouth what was it 35 last yr and 23 this freakin yr.But wait for those who defend this coming around and tellibng all and sundry they are poo picks.,
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
here here ox. Those two second rounders we lost sure leaves a bad taste in the mouth what was it 35 last yr and 23 this freakin yr.But wait for those who defend this coming around and tellibng all and sundry they are poo picks.,
For some one who never ended up playing for the club, they now look like golden picks. If he ended up starring at our club I could have easily accepted the loss of picks.
The point remains, did the club perform due diligence when looking into him and were they warned?
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Ah no
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Ah no
Which part of the question does that answer? ;)
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here here ox. Those two second rounders we lost sure leaves a bad taste in the mouth what was it 35 last yr and 23 this freakin yr.But wait for those who defend this coming around and tellibng all and sundry they are poo picks.,
Brilliant work there Claw, get in early so when someone comes and claims those are poo picks (which pick 36* last year definitely was - pick 28* could have been handy) you can quickly claim they are apologists and tell them to stop defending the club :clapping
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
:clapping
ROTTEN.
Meanwhile, Dunkley (the guy we gave up and traded our pick for) is averaging more finals possessions than Cotchin.
Double rotten. only at Richmond AND only Richmond would swallow it all without a hint of wanting accountability for the decision makers.
AAAND Yarran is still on the list. Triple rotten.
Its poo like this which murders a clubs depth many times over.
Absolutely disgraceful.
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
:clapping
ROTTEN.
Meanwhile, Dunkley (the guy we gave up and traded our pick for) is averaging more finals possessions than Cotchin.
Double rotten. only at Richmond AND only Richmond would swallow it all without a hint of wanting accountability for the decision makers.
AAAND Yarran is still on the list. Triple rotten.
Its poo like this which murders a clubs depth many times over.
Absolutely disgraceful.
With the greatest respect Dookster, you keep saying this but it is not true. We only traded for pick 19 in desperation to satisfy Carlton. If Yarran was not on the horizon, we would have kept pick 31 and thus never had the chance to get Dunkley. Who went 31 last year? Who went 24 this year? Therein lies our problem.
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
:clapping
ROTTEN.
Meanwhile, Dunkley (the guy we gave up and traded our pick for) is averaging more finals possessions than Cotchin.
Double rotten. only at Richmond AND only Richmond would swallow it all without a hint of wanting accountability for the decision makers.
AAAND Yarran is still on the list. Triple rotten.
Its poo like this which murders a clubs depth many times over.
Absolutely disgraceful.
With the greatest respect Dookster, you keep saying this but it is not true. We only traded for pick 19 in desperation to satisfy Carlton. If Yarran was not on the horizon, we would have kept pick 31 and thus never had the chance to get Dunkley. Who went 31 last year? Who went 24 this year? Therein lies our problem.
Semantics. At best, if were desperate 3 days before the deadline to trade in pick 19 we still gave up (as you say) two good picks for him.
The problem compounds either way you look at it.
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
:clapping
ROTTEN.
Meanwhile, Dunkley (the guy we gave up and traded our pick for) is averaging more finals possessions than Cotchin.
Double rotten. only at Richmond AND only Richmond would swallow it all without a hint of wanting accountability for the decision makers.
AAAND Yarran is still on the list. Triple rotten.
Its poo like this which murders a clubs depth many times over.
Absolutely disgraceful.
With the greatest respect Dookster, you keep saying this but it is not true. We only traded for pick 19 in desperation to satisfy Carlton. If Yarran was not on the horizon, we would have kept pick 31 and thus never had the chance to get Dunkley. Who went 31 last year? Who went 24 this year? Therein lies our problem.
now now y&b I covered this scenario in an earlier discussion with you on this topic. There was a window of opportunity after 19 was secured and warnings had been sounded where a half-decent club would have turned their back on the deal. As I stated earlier they didn't want to appear to be a serial rejector of indigenous players after the Bennell affair.
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The picks added together actually added up to pick 11. not the pick 18 we traded the picks for.
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So it's finally in the paper. A break up, gambling and stress related to the pressure of AFL. Well I hope it gets better outside the floodlit AFL.
Rfc were too insipid to even be honest, instead, it's mental illness.
It's a real slap in the face to the cause itself and as peeweak as we've come to expect from
people In charge.
More than happy to accept adulation for their perceived, continuing great work behind the scenes,
they used mental illness as a refuge for an unforgivable decision that didn't even backfire - it just played out as expected. A safety haven for their pathetic own arses.
How the stuff have these people taken over the RFC after mistake after mistake after mistake....
LMAO @ all the PC'ers showing how, weak as pee they are by jumping on the poor Chris wagon and judging anyone who dared to state otherwise.
:clapping
ROTTEN.
Meanwhile, Dunkley (the guy we gave up and traded our pick for) is averaging more finals possessions than Cotchin.
Double rotten. only at Richmond AND only Richmond would swallow it all without a hint of wanting accountability for the decision makers.
AAAND Yarran is still on the list. Triple rotten.
Its poo like this which murders a clubs depth many times over.
Absolutely disgraceful.
With the greatest respect Dookster, you keep saying this but it is not true. We only traded for pick 19 in desperation to satisfy Carlton. If Yarran was not on the horizon, we would have kept pick 31 and thus never had the chance to get Dunkley. Who went 31 last year? Who went 24 this year? Therein lies our problem.
now now y&b I covered this scenario in an earlier discussion with you on this topic. There was a window of opportunity after 19 was secured and warnings had been sounded where a half-decent club would have turned their back on the deal. As I stated earlier they didn't want to appear to be a serial rejector of indigenous players after the Bennell affair.c
I disagree. They had committed to Yarran long before they got pick 19. They obtained that pick to desperately get the deal done quickly. Carlton played hard ball right to the end. That's how it happened. There was no mythical time we got new information to change our minds. Not sure where you are getting this from. Any warnings came long before the last few days of the trade period. They still went ahead despite this. So the point being they would never have changed their minds after trading for pick 19.