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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 24, 2015, 02:49:11 PM
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VFL ROUND 11
Richmond (2-7, 14th) vs Williamstown (6-3, 3rd)
Saturday, 27th June @ ME Bank Centre, Punt Road Oval
Time: 12:00 pm
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Must win game.
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TV or live stream?
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8 point game!
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TV or live stream?
No coverage whatsoever this week.
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wont notice the difference up here.
The VFL are doing a good job at keeping things to as small an audience as possible :clapping
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Richmond's VFL squad:
B: Barlow Gale Kruse
HB: Morris Wall Dea
C: McDonough Thomas Menadue
HF: Lennon Astbury Lloyd
F: McBean McKenzie Bathie
R: Perry Arnot Cachia
Int: Quinn*, Wynne, McQualter, Aarts, Mugavin, Mcfarlane, Rippon, Scott, Short
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=35124655
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If Clarke loses with that side in he has no idea , look at the tall timber up forward :banghead
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No Elton ???
Not on Injury list, Not in first ???
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No Elton ???
Not on Injury list, Not in first ???
And your point is?
Our injury list is a joke
Dea was injured for a fortnight and he wasn't listed and didn't play
Just assume young Todd is injured because he probably is
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McKenzie marks in the goal square and converts. That's the first of the day. RICH 6 WILL 1
Matt Thomas sets up Jayden Short in front of goal and he kicks truly. RICH 12 WILL 15
Williamstown goal but Richmond don't take long to respond. Another one to Short again from close range. RICH 18 WILL 21
Quarter time
Rich 3.0-18
Will 4.3-27
Goals: Short 2, McKenzie
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Be interesting to see how Morris performs as well as McDonough, Asbury, Lennon and Menadue...
Thanks OE for the updates. :thumbsup
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After a slow start, the game really lifted to a great contest.
Thomas leading the way for us with 8 disposals, 6 tackles.
https://twitter.com/richmondvfl
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Menadue is awarded a free in the goal square and delivers the first major of the quarter.
RICH 25
WILL 27
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I still believe we need to lift our tackle count in the main squad, when the swans were leading last night it was 7 to 28 tackles in favour of them. Good to see Thomas involved with that.
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The game being playing now in Williamstown's forward half.
Rich 28
Will 43
20 mins Q2
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Anyone standing out so far for selection next week?
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Williamstown got on top a bit that quarter.
Thomas is still our leading possession getter with 15, 8 tackles.
Short now has 3 goals.
Half-time
Richmond 3.0 5.6-36
Williamstown 4.3 7.8-50
Goals: Short 3, McKenzie, Menadue
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Anyone standing out so far for selection next week?
Only going off twitter updates so hard to tell.
We're under way in the 3rd qtr and off to a great start in this second half with Lloyd snapping a goal.
RICH 42
WILL 51
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Short; I really liked the look of him in the preseason, any chance he could get a promo to the firsts... :cheers
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The young guys usually have to play a number of good games in a row before they are even considered for senior footy. That's what hurt McDonough last week despite having 29 possies and kicking 3 goals.
A great contested mark from Sam Lloyd in the pocket sets him up 30m out. And he goals. However Willy get it straight back.
Rich 7.6-48
Will 10.16-76
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The score would be a lot worse if Willy had kicked straight.
3/4 time
Richmond 3.0 5.6 7.6-48
Williamstown 4.3 7.8 10.20-80
Goals: Short 3, Lloyd 2, McKenzie, Menadue
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Bugger, I thought we had a pretty strong ressie side.. :-[
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Bugger, I thought we had a pretty strong ressie side.. :-[
Half the side are our VFL-listed players, most of whom aren't even VFL standard.
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Bugger, I thought we had a pretty strong ressie side.. :-[
Half the side are our VFL-listed players, most of whom aren't even VFL standard.
Yeah but we do have a few in that are senior or rookie. What are all the other sides seconds loaded with AFL players?
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Bugger, I thought we had a pretty strong ressie side.. :-[
Half the side are our VFL-listed players, most of whom aren't even VFL standard.
Yeah but we do have a few in that are senior or rookie. What are all the other sides seconds loaded with AFL players?
We're missing quite a few due to injury. Hampson, Knights, Petterd, Elton, C.Ellis and then Morris was 23rd man up in Sydney. Other VFL clubs would also have better local leagues to draw VFL-listed players from.
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Willy have kicked the first three of the last.
Rich 48
Will 100
I've got to head off now. You can post score updates from twitter :- https://twitter.com/richmondvfl
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Nick Wynne goals against the flow. Williamstown's lead now at 52 points
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Was going to go down to this...glad I didn't.....
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And there's the siren. Williamstown 14.23.107 defeat Richmond 10.7.67 by 40 points.
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37 scoring shots to 17 ...flattering margin....
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Player stats?
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Ffs
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2015 Peter Jackson VFL
Richmond Tigers 3.0 5.6 7.6 10.7 (67)
Williamstown 4.3 7.8 10.20 14.23 (107)
GOALS:
Richmond Tigers: Short 3, Lloyd 3, Menadue 2, McKenzie, Wynne
Williamstown: Anastasio 2, Gibbons 2, Casley 2, Clouston, Myers, Jolley, Johnstone, Dunell, Bewley, Currie, Masters
BEST:
Richmond Tigers: Thomas, Short, Barlow, Astbury, Arnot, McQualter
Williamstown: Banner, Currie, Casley, Tighe, Meese, Faulks
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v5/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
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Ive said before on a number of times in here Short is a good player. Would go ok on a half forward flank I reckon. Good to see Menadue get a couple.
The ressies need a new coach.
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Ive said before on a number of times in here Short is a good player. Would go ok on a half forward flank I reckon. Good to see Menadue get a couple.
The ressies need a new coach.
Malthouse is available
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How'd McBean go - was he in the ruck again? Goal kicking seems to have dropped away since his senior appearances....
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Mcbean looks to have dropped off last couple, Lloyd would be a chance to come in for Gordo , has had a couple of good games
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The ressies need a new coach.
What our VFL side needs more than anything is a decent VFL list.
Wouldn't matter who was coaching them when we need to play more top ups than AFL listed then we are always going to be non-competitive.
Makes me think we are not spending what we need to on the VFL part of he business list wise. :whistle
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Most of the VFL top ups are below standard with only a few showing they can handle the standard. Scott is similar to Short the way he plays. Cachia plays similar to Thomas. McFarlane is a smart left footer with potential. Wynne is a right footed Dea. Gale goeas ok and the most promising of all of them is Mellington who mainly plays in the under 18 comp. The rest are poor IMO. We need recently de-listed players to continue playing. The Western Bulldogs do this very well - unfortunately :banghead
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What happened to McDonough??
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Most of the VFL top ups are below standard with only a few showing they can handle the standard. Scott is similar to Short the way he plays. Cachia plays similar to Thomas. McFarlane is a smart left footer with potential. Wynne is a right footed Dea. Gale goeas ok and the most promising of all of them is Mellington who mainly plays in the under 18 comp. The rest are poor IMO. We need recently de-listed players to continue playing. The Western Bulldogs do this very well - unfortunately :banghead
Exactly
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Agree.
Need better VFL listed players.
Need to follow what Box Hill/Essendon are doing.
They are sitting 1st and 2nd.
We are second last.
We want to do competitive, not like this.
Last year we had good VFL listed players and didn't replace them at all.
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What happened to McDonough??
Named in the best along with Lennon on the report on just listed.
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What happened to McDonough??
Named in the best along with Lennon on the report on just listed.
Ok cheers, he isnt named in the best on the one above..neither is Lennon for that matter.. :huh
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They are always different. Rightly or wrongly I take our own report a the following day as a better guide. Not sure who provides the reports on the VFL web site but they always seen off the mark.
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Agree.
Need better VFL listed players.
Need to follow what Box Hill/Essendon are doing.
They are sitting 1st and 2nd.
We are second last.
We want to do competitive, not like this.
Last year we had good VFL listed players and didn't replace them at all.
No we didn't.....and most of them are still here including Wall who was the best one....biggest loss for this year has been Stephenson who was AFL-listed but played nearly every game....would also help if Contin was fit & firing.....not much though...
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Ive said before on a number of times in here Short is a good player. Would go ok on a half forward flank I reckon. Good to see Menadue get a couple.
The ressies need a new coach.
Watched the game a week or so ago and it struck me that our kids didn't seem to have any idea of how to play a game of football.
Ran to the wrong spots, kicked to the wrong spots, made no position (even when 65 metres away from the ball), didn't set up in either defense or attack.
Now obviously that's wrong. We couldn't be only recruiting dumb players so it's got to be the game plan and coaching.
It's a problem we've all seen over the years where the new players show promise and then get it drummed out of them. Think of McBean and now McKenzie.
Still I suppose the board, Gale and Richardson haven't arrived at the ground or are still having drinkies so they don't watch the reserves.
Clarke seems like a nice charming bloke so that's all we need in a VFL coach.
I really want to steal Phil Bunn from Adelaide as our reserves coach.
He was the coach at Bushrangers in 08 and 09, in 2010 he went to Port as their Mebourne recruiter and in 2013 was appointed as Adelaide's Melbourne-based recruiter.
Would rather have him as a VFL coach, recruiting VFL matures and developing junior players.
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VFL Tigers outclassed by Williamstown
By Catherine Durkin
June 28, 2015
Richmond’s VFL squad has suffered another disappointing loss, going down to Williamstown by 40 points at the ME Centre on Saturday.
Despite three goal hauls from young forward Jayden Short and Sam Lloyd, the Tigers struggled offensively much of the day, making it difficult to apply scoreboard pressure.
Williamtown was inaccurate all day, allowing Richmond to stay within striking distance for much of the first half.
However, after half time the Seagulls stamped their dominance on the game, finishing with 64 ventures inside 50 to the Tigers 51.
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After taking a 32-point lead into three quarter time, Williamstown burst out of the blocks in the final quarter, with three quick goals to put the result beyond doubt.
Matt Thomas was a consistent performer for the Tigers all day. He collected 30 possessions and continued that intense tackle pressure he has brought all year, finishing with a game-high 10 tackles.
Lloyd worked tirelessly up forward and spurred several passages of Richmond momentum. He finished with 16 possessions, 12 of which were contested, and took five contested marks.
The game also marked the return of key target David Astbury after recovering from a hamstring strain. Although only gathering nine disposals, mostly in defence, he managed to get through the game with relative ease.
The Tigers will venture to Eureka Stadium next Sunday to take on North Ballarat, who currently sit just above Richmond on the ladder.
FINAL SCORES
Richmond 3.0 5.6 7.6 10.7.67
Williamstown 4.3 7.8 10.20 14.23.107
GOALS
Richmond – Lloyd 3, Short 3, Menadue 2, McKenzie, Wynne
Williamstown – Gibbons 2, Casley 2, Anastasio 2, Jolley, Bewley, Masters, Dunell, Currie, Johnstone, Myers, Clousten
BEST
Richmond - Thomas, Lloyd, Short, McDonough, Lennon, Wall, McQualter
Williamstown - Banner, Gibbons, Marcon, Wheeler, Jolley, Carr, Casely
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-28/vfl-tigers-outclassed-by-williamstown
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Is Butler still injured?
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Is Butler still injured?
Yep
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Stats from Swans fan 'grimlock' on BF:
(http://i.imgur.com/RcEUyEj.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QCA89D1.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-11-richmond-v-williamstown-punt-road-saturday-12-00pm-26-06-15.1101971/page-3#post-39313294
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Who is charge of the vfl non afl players?
Why are the talls so bad
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Richmond’s VFL coach Tim Clarke's summary of the Tigers’ AFL-listed players ...
Matt Thomas
30 disposals, 15 contested possessions, 10 tackles
Played his best game for the year. Had around 30 touches again and 10 tackles. Used the ball much better this week, and is really starting to come into some form. After having a tough year with managing his knee injuries, we’re really excited about what he can offer over the next couple of weeks.
Matt McDonough
24 disposals, seven clearances
Played a good game for us offensively. Defensively, he let us down a little bit at times. But he continues to find the ball around stoppages, and some of the work he’s doing in close is AFL standard, we just need to keep his game on the outside coming along.
Ben Lennon
18 disposals, three tackles
Played wing most of the day. Still learning the role, which is going to add another string to his bow. Every time Ben gets the ball, something happens with our side. He didn’t hit the scoreboard, but he did contribute to two or three goals. Hopefully Ben can keep improving the wing role over the next two or three weeks.
Sam Lloyd
Three goals, 16 disposals, five contested marks
Continues to win contested ball and hit the scoreboard. He kicked three goals on the day and took five contested marks. Sam keeps showing that his ability to win one-on-ones is AFL standard.
Jayden Short
Three goals, 16 disposals
Played close to his best game of the year offensively. Hit the scoreboard three times and had 15 to 16 touches. We expect Jayden to provide more defensive pressure as a small forward. Things like tackling and chasing - they are the sorts of things he’s working on at the moment, and we need to see that coming out in his game.
Matt Dea
14 disposals
Played his role but didn’t do much more than that. Contributed well in regards to chop out marks and helping to set up our defence, but we expect Matt to play a more impactful game at VFL level.
Liam McBean
14 disposals, five tackles, eight hitouts
Played well in patches in the ruck and as a key forward, but didn’t impact the game as well as we would have liked. His critical contest work is getting better and better each week. But we expect a better performance this week from Liam against North Ballarat.
Steve Morris
13 disposals
Played forward and midfield. Came back with a great attitude and his commitment in the contest was terrific. We expect Stevie to have a bit more of an impact at VFL level. But for his first game at VFL his attitude was good, and that was what was important.
Matt Arnot
12 disposals
Played a defensive role on Anastasio, one of Williamstown’s key small forwards. Played really well, restricting his player to two goals, one of which he had no influence on. Continues to learn the role of a small defender and we will keep playing him there over the next few weeks.
Reece McKenzie
12 disposals
Continued his form from last week. Took three or four really strong marks and competed well in the contest, which is what we expect from Reece. He’s developing really well in that role.
Dave Astbury
Nine disposals
First game back in a while. Dave was really good in the air and the critical contests. We expect him to use the ball a bit better, but that will improve with the games that he plays. Played three and a bit quarters - three quarters back and one quarter forward. He showed when the ball is in the air he can impact well.
Connor Menadue
Nine disposals
Was disappointing coming back from the AFL. Didn’t really influence the game at all in the way that we know he can. We expect a better performance from Connor, both offensively and defensively.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-30/the-vfl-report-round-11
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Morris struggling to hit the scoreboard even in the ressies :-\ :-\
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Morris struggling to hit the scoreboard even in the ressies :-\ :-\
He's not Gary ablett
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I'm sure you've got a point with that comment so why not elaborate?