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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on July 05, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
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Pathetic performance. Season over. Hird a cancer. Surely players will move on, they've out up with enough.
Who would u take from Essendon.
Would love either Zaharakis or Colyer. They fit our small and medium forward hole perfectly. Essendon need picks. Would give them our first rounder and a sweetener to get these 2. Would be a great upgrade on our bottom 4 each week...
You can't not like Jobe, poor guy has carried that scum of a club for far too long. Would happily take him next year to push beyond top 6. He'll be 31 next year and no chance of a flag at Essendon. Would bw great experience for our young leaders. In terms of salary cap he'd be our only veteran so wouldn't cost us anything. Hating his footy atm. Bring him to a real club.
Who would u take from Essdon
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Let em rot. Standbyhird
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Paul Sproule left Essendon and played back to back in 73/74 for us.
When we had our player wars with Collingwood the Bummers took Bryan Wood from us.
Pillage them and render them inept and ineffectual for the next 50 years.
In the meantime till the end of 2016. STAND BY HIRD. ;D
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pee em off
Bring in tassie
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Trade Conca for Heppell.
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....and he wouldn't get tagged at Richmond....
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Neeld will surely take over. :lol
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Neeld will surely take over. :lol
:lol :lol
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It could be worse for them.
They could have lost by 111 points today.
Mark Neeld lost by 148 points to Essendon 2 years ago.
Talk of sacking Hird is premature and wrong.
STAND BY HIRD. ;D
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Hird is the next supercoach of the AFL. Lets all stand by the great man and let him lead essendon until he decides to retire at age 85 ;D
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Hird Hird Hird, Hird is the word.
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I think their midfield is pathetic.
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Get Carlisle. Will excel in the right environment :clapping
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Would love either Zaharakis or Colyer. They fit our small and medium forward hole perfectly. Essendon need picks. Would give them our first rounder and a sweetener to get these 2. Would be a great upgrade on our bottom 4 each week...
The above are the only 2 I'd be nterested in
But certainly wouldn't give up a 1st round pick for them.
The bombers must learn the hard way that they deserve kicking from all areas of the game, especially at the trade table
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WP I think the WADA thing again has screwd them good and proper.They thought by topping up that would give them a red hot go at the flag,instead its left them with a washed up dads army.
I also get the feeling that beneath it all theres a lot of simmering angst throughout the club
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Carlisle
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Only Colyer for me. Zaharakis is always injured and Carlisle is a head case.
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Only Colyer for me. Zaharakis is always injured and Carlisle is a head case.
Who cares if he is a head case ?
Rance needs a chop out
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Zaharakis and Hurley. Doubt you will be able to get either as Hird will be knifed in the front and they will give the new coach a shot.
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What about peptide enthusiast hooker?
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I like Cale but he wont leave
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Would love Carlisle or Hooker but we don't even know if they'll be able to play next year if WADA are successful.
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I like Cale but he wont leave
I don't like any of them :-\
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Hurley to replace Chaplin
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My mail is after this record breaking loss, Hird gets another 1 million in the bank and a monthly trip to France for his fine services to the Essendon FC. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Plenty of talent on every list. I would take any of the following:
Carlisle
Colyer
Daniher
Heppell
Hooker
Hurley
Zaharakis
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Let them fester and rot wouldn't take anything due to the uncertainty of their future.
Dyson would've been good for us though :neener
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Leave them all to rot at Windy Hill. No-one wants there damaged players :snidegrin
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Herald-Sun says Hurley is being urged to walk out on Essendon and they have us as his best suitor.
Hurley could walk as rivals circle
Herald-Sun
March 10, 2016
MICHAEL Hurley is being urged to walk from Essendon and the lure could as much as $900,000 a season.
Up to six clubs have spoken to Hurley’s manager Paul Connors about invoking a previously unused clause in the player contract which would allow the banned Hurley to leave Essendon and join the club of his choice.
All 12 suspended Essendon players - who could become delisted free agents if they choose - could use the same trigger to leave Essendon.
The Bombers are confident the suspended players will recommit to the club, but sources told the Herald Sun this week Hurley was reconsidering his future.
That’s not to say Hurley definitely wants out, but that he’s not 100 per cent committed to the club as he was six weeks ago.
If 25-year-old Hurley did decide he wanted out, the Bombers could either agree to it, which is unlikely, or fight.
A grievance process and, if needed, a grievance tribunal chaired by Federal Court judge, Professor Geoffrey Giudice, would follow.
Giudice’s tribunal deputy is retired County Court judge Murray Kellam and the panel supporting them comprises David Maddocks, Michael Moncrief and Kevin Power.
The AFL refused to discuss potential cases.
“Under the collective bargaining agreement any player in the competition who has a grievance with their club has the right to have that grievance aired through the processes of the grievance tribunal as agreed under the CBA between the AFL and the player group,” an AFL spokesman told the Herald Sun.
Hurley is contracted until the end of 2017 and for him to leave he would need to argue there was a fundamental breach of his contract at the Bombers.
Hurley, named All-Australian in 2015 and runner-up in the club’s best and fairest, and his teammates were suspended for 12 months for using the banned peptide Thymosin Beta-4.
In November, Essendon pleaded guilty to two charges laid by WorkSafe Victoria for breaching the Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) Act over its handling of the 2012 supplements program.
Lawyers’ advice to several player managers and the AFL Players’ Association is the players would have a strong case for breach of contract.
The clubs inquiring about Hurley have been told he’s likely to stay a Bomber, but their interest will remain strong.
The clubs have made it known that a salary between $750,000 and as much as $900,000 would be available, plus a fresh environment to restart his career.
The Herald Sun has learnt that midfielders David Myers and Travis Colyer have also had interest from rival clubs.
Already, Cale Hooker has been offered a long-term deal from Fremantle, although the Bombers are prepared to offer Hooker a new contract at around $750,000 per season.
Dyson Heppell is tipped to the next captain of the Bombers and tipped to stay, but clubs will investigate his availability.
It’s believed the AFLPA would strongly support any player who wanted to leave the Bombers and would also support that player leaving without a trade being organised between the Bombers and the new club.
Effectively, Essendon would receive nothing in return.
Former Essendon player Patrick Ryder threatened to activate the delisted free agent clause in a bid to move to Port Adelaide at the end of the 2014 season, but the clubs eventually agreed to a trade.
Essendon’s situation is complex. It is dealing with 12 suspended players, 34 in total who are seeking compensation and the possibility of a mass exodus.
If the players stay, the Bombers would be forced to pay overs to keep them.
IF THE CAP FITS
Potential suitors for banned Bombers
Michael Hurley - Richmond
Cale Hooker - Fremantle
Travis Colyer - St Kilda
David Myers - Geelong
Dyson Heppell - Collingwood
Tom Bellchambers - Hawthorn
Michael Hibberd - Sydney
Brent Stanton - Melbourne
Jobe Watson - Western Bulldogs
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/banned-essendon-players-could-be-convinced-to-walk-out-on-club-with-rivals-circling/news-story/10d9f4f1f3855939e4cfd6c44cc1eace
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Hurley FB
Rance CHB
Works for me! :pray
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Get Carlisle. Will excel in the right environment :clapping
Yep Carlisle, Heppel and Watson.
Take them, and watch it fall deeper into an ever groing abyss. Hate the vomits :'(
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Hurley would be great....wouldn't mind Hooker either, though he turns 29 next year.....would be hilariously ironic if we got Heppell and traded out Conca....stuff off if Collingwood get Heppell....
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$750-900k/year for Hurley? Don't think so...
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$750-900k/year for Hurley? Don't think so...
What's Chaplin on 450
Yuck
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Chaplin a liability and a finals fumbler.
Astbury injury prone and hasn't improved since debut.
Please please please open the war chest and get the big fish Hurley. :pray
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$750-900k/year for Hurley? Don't think so...
so about one grigg and one chaplin ?
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Chaplin a liability and a finals fumbler.
Astbury injury prone and hasn't improved since debut.
Please please please open the war chest and get the big fish Hurley. :pray
What makes you think he would even contemplate coming to us.We only get players no one else wants.
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Chaplin a liability and a finals fumbler.
Astbury injury prone and hasn't improved since debut.
Please please please open the war chest and get the big fish Hurley. :pray
What makes you think he would even contemplate coming to us.We only get players no one else wants.
cause he possibly doesnt want to stay @ drug cheat fc any more ?
Did no club want yarren? I find that surprising
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Chaplin a liability and a finals fumbler.
Astbury injury prone and hasn't improved since debut.
Please please please open the war chest and get the big fish Hurley. :pray
What makes you think he would even contemplate coming to us.We only get players no one else wants.
cause he possibly doesnt want to stay @ drug cheat fc any more ?
Did no club want yarren? I find that surprising
If he wants out he'd be great at punt road & why wouldnt he want to come to our club?
That said I'm doubtful our off-field team can deliver a big fish.
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Hurley and Rance would be a better KPD combo than Scarlett and Taylor in their peak. We can always dream..
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Should be throwing everything at Hurley & Tomlinson...also need another A grade mid & of course a quality ruckman or three....
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Should be throwing everything at Hurley & Tomlinson...also need another A grade mid & of course a quality ruckman or three....
Two good KPP who can swing forward and back effectively? Nah soz we have Chappy and Astbury
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Chaplin a liability and a finals fumbler.
Astbury injury prone and hasn't improved since debut.
Please please please open the war chest and get the big fish Hurley. :pray
What makes you think he would even contemplate coming to us.We only get players no one else wants.
as a KPD
playing next to rance would be rather appealing
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Just saw it on Facebook .....so it's probably bull dust .
Apparently Richmond offering Hurley 900k to switch clubs
Does not seem like the Richmond way to pay overs
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Get him.
Rance and Hurley would be a nice combo.
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I like it
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$900k fmd
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thats like one grigg and one chaplin ...
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Get him.
Rance and Hurley would be a nice combo.
how the mighty fall.
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$900k fmd
Yeah that's Dan Richardson's general attitude too...which is why we never attract anyone of note....
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Well when back to back AA Rance is on half that , prob wouldn't make much sense ::)
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Is rance on 450?
Yep an the tooth fairy is coming roun tomorrow
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Is rance on 450?
Yep an the tooth fairy is coming roun tomorrow
Well his left bum cheek is, lucky for Rance his right one is on almost as much
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Well when back to back AA Rance is on half that , prob wouldn't make much sense ::)
Yeah righteo....
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Get him.
Rance and Hurley would be a nice combo.
how the mighty fall.
What are you playing at, Peter?
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Barrett tonight said Hurley is no longer training with the other suspended Essendon players. Evidence he wants out?
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Barrett tonight said Hurley is no longer training with the other suspended Essendon players. Evidence he wants out?
:cheers :birthday :santa :rollin :woohoo :dancing :newyear :wavetowel :yo :highclap :thatsgold
...question is can Richardson get it done?
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Richardson couldn't attract ants to sugar.
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Richardson hey?
:lol
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Barrett tonight said Hurley is no longer training with the other suspended Essendon players. Evidence he wants out?
Bin Boy is getting slow out of his bin
Hurley hasn't bee training with them for over a fortnight now. Ox said something about it on SEN breakfast early last week :lol
Good to see Damien has finally caught up :clapping
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Richardson couldn't attract ants to sugar.
and yet when he took over contract negotiations for Lennon from ** , he signed him up in no time...... :shh
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Barrett tonight said Hurley is no longer training with the other suspended Essendon players. Evidence he wants out?
Barrett's repeated this in his sliding doors column today:
IF .......Hurley isn't training with the main Bombers' WADA-banned group ..
THEN ... that is sending an alarming message.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-01/sliding-doors-round-two-2016
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Richardson couldn't attract ants to sugar.
and yet when he took over contract negotiations for Lennon from ** , he signed him up in no time...... :shh
Exactly
:clapping
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Jump down turn around pick a bail of essendons carcass lmfao :rollin
Seriously pay hurley
Taxi :outtahere
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Richardson couldn't attract ants to sugar.
and yet when he took over contract negotiations for Lennon from ** , he signed him up in no time...... :shh
Exactly
:clapping
Entice Lennon over from another club did he?
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According to Barrett tonight,
Hurley wants his Essendon contract (signed until 2017) torn up and, if he stays, rewritten to $1 million p.a. contract. That's the figure he reckons he can get on the open market from other clubs.
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:lol
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More skulduggery at the bombers.....
Heppell to sue Essendon for loss of income etc. Insurance pays him out, this isn't included in the salary cap and then he continues to play for Essendon!
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...igBMAA&usg=AFQjCNG4lwhWj5h1Vrcs1l3VuEtkgdl1cg
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Hooker offered 5 million $ contract :o
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Hooker offered 5 million $ contract :o
From??
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Dunno
Sen sound bite
Freo, hawks, someone else I forgotten interested
Not Richmond of course
Cause Chaplin is a gun
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We wont be interested in any player that will add value to the team. The nuffers that complain about paying too much.. ::) ::)
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Hooker to Freo
Hurley to Hawks
Heppell to Saints. FJ still dosent rate Heppell................ :facepalm :facepalm
They'll all desert the sinking ship. You heard it here first.
Richmond meanwhile will throw everything at Prestia and miss again because we have a crap coach that no one wants to play for.
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If we could get Hurley and gets some games into some of our kids this year, it would be worth taking that small step backwards IMO.
Hurley is exactly what we need.
Make him an offer too good to refuse, it's that simple!!
Nobody needs to know the figure, it's got nothing to do with anyone other than himself and the club. People will speculate but big deal.
We have been too politically correct for too long.
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For fudge sake - Do something !!!!!
Hurley and/or Heppell ...make it happen.
No more diamonds in the rough, bargin basement, good sammy recycled hacks who are at best only fringe players
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Heppell is going nowhere. He has a handshake agreement to be captain of Essendon. He'll collect one million dollars on insurance money and come back as their number one player.
Hurley is the one that we need from those who may want to leave and who may want to come to us.
Just get it done.
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More than happy to get Hurley
But everyone is assuming he is going to be good player or a better player at the RFC
Have to question whether he would / will be .... our track record aint great ;D
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More than happy to get Hurley
But everyone is assuming he is going to be good player or a better player at the RFC
Have to question whether he would / will be .... our track record aint great ;D
True, but he is a class player and a KPP.
When was the last time we were able to land someone like that? He would partner Rance perfectly down back. We should at least be doing our best to get this done.
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More than happy to get Hurley
But everyone is assuming he is going to be good player or a better player at the RFC
Have to question whether he would / will be .... our track record aint great ;D
That doesn't make much sense IMO.
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
Hahahaha,
"More than happy to get Hurley"
As long as we don't pay overs. :help
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
Hahahaha,
"More than happy to get Hurley"
As long as we don't pay overs. :help
Hahaha
Happy to get hurley at whatever price
Not sure what you dont understand with my previous post.
It's simple really.
Our record with developing players isnt great. Most of our players have this season gone backwards. People see this bloke as some sort of saviour just saying with our record he is a good chance of going backwards ;D
Clear enough?
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
Hahahaha,
"More than happy to get Hurley"
As long as we don't pay overs. :help
Hahaha
Happy to get hurley at whatever price
Not sure what you dont understand with my previous post.
It's simple really.
Our record with developing players isnt great. Most of our players have this season gone backwards. People see this bloke as some sort of saviour just saying with our record he is a good chance of going backwards ;D
Clear enough?
The "Richmond Way!"
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
Hahahaha,
"More than happy to get Hurley"
As long as we don't pay overs. :help
Hahaha
Happy to get hurley at whatever price
Not sure what you dont understand with my previous post.
It's simple really.
Our record with developing players isnt great. Most of our players have this season gone backwards. People see this bloke as some sort of saviour just saying with our record he is a good chance of going backwards ;D
Clear enough?
Only stirring muscles. :thumbsup
In terms of development, Hurley may be ready to go. Just saying.
What else can you do WP other than have a joke. The bloody club is a shambles....again.
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What else can you do WP other than have a joke. The bloody club is a shambles....again.
Drink ;D
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WP sounds like he gets into the ear of Hartley & Richardson during trade week.....
Hahahaha,
"More than happy to get Hurley"
As long as we don't pay overs. :help
Hahaha
Happy to get hurley at whatever price
Not sure what you dont understand with my previous post.
It's simple really.
Our record with developing players isnt great. Most of our players have this season gone backwards. People see this bloke as some sort of saviour just saying with our record he is a good chance of going backwards ;D
Clear enough?
Clear yet fairly dumb
Hurley is developed and is a solid defender
Would be light years ahead of Chaplin , would make a significant difference
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Would love to see Hurley in the Y&B but he won't want to come to RFC and TBH (if the rumors are true) I don't want to pay him $1 million/year nor necessary try to buy a bloke who sounds like he just wants money and doesn't care about who he plays for.
Fact is we have a SERIOUS depth issue ALL OVER our list. Getting a $1 million/year key defender won't be enough to make us contenders and is therefore not money well spent.
Honestly I think we had a short window in which we needed to attract another two A-grade players but we failed and I fear the window is closing. If we had managed to snag Armitage or Hannebery (2014?) followed by Treloar in 2015 it could be a different story but we haven't acquired any depth and this year might break the team if they don't get it together!
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Would love to see Hurley in the Y&B but he won't want to come to RFC and TBH (if the rumors are true) I don't want to pay him $1 million/year nor necessary try to buy a bloke who sounds like he just wants money and doesn't care about who he plays for.
Fact is we have a SERIOUS depth issue ALL OVER our list. Getting a $1 million/year key defender won't be enough to make us contenders and is therefore not money well spent.
Honestly I think we had a short window in which we needed to attract another two A-grade players but we failed and I fear the window is closing. If we had managed to snag Armitage or Hannebery (2014?) followed by Treloar in 2015 it could be a different story but we haven't acquired any depth and this year might break the team if they don't get it together!
If you list the greatest current list deficiencies
The most pressing issue is key defender and a lack of ruckman
Another year I Chaplin; I would not blame rance one iota for becoming a monk or going around the world instead on playing for Richmond
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ESSENDON is intent on attaining the signature of key defender Michael Hurley, but coach John Worsfold doesn't believe any recommitment is imminent for the All Australian backman.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-27/worsfold-wants-hurley-back-but-doesnt-believe-resigning-is-imminent
Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 news said he believes Hurley will be staying at Essendon.
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It's time Dan the man earnt his pay check.
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
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Maybe just a long contract on "fair" money will be enough.
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
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I thought $500k a year for Betts was ridiculous money....
We need to loosen the purse strings
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That's why you have things like front loaded & back ended contracts and that's where the best list managers earn their keep....
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Please.
We need a genuine ruck, another genuine key forward, another genuine key defender, a/another genuine small forward (Rioli looks good) and probably 2-3 tough midfielders with big bodies.
So you wanna go and throw the sink at a single key defender? How much would YOU pay him?
We have so many list deficiencies right now that I think we need to consider a semi-rebuild and unless we offload some top-end talent (think Lids almost cooked and Cotchin not a great captain/attacking footballer) we won't have anywhere near enough money to chase depth in these areas unless we keep playing moneyball...
If we were ONE or TWO players short then no probably we could probably afford to splash out...
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As I said, it's where the best list managers earn their keep....other clubs with better lists and more valuable players than us still manage these type of deals all the time....
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
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I thought $500k a year for Betts was ridiculous money....
We need to loosen the purse strings
Look pretty good now doesn't it ...
Pay peanuts get monkeys
Pay 1/2 a mill get Eddie
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
You must be loaded WP! ;D
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
You must be loaded WP! ;D
Nah just pretending I am Dan :snidegrin
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
You must be loaded WP! ;D
Nah just pretending I am Dan :snidegrin
I would have thought the RFC might offer him a suit and six shirts. :shh
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
By offering $650-700k/year I'm talking about a negotiable starting point.
$700k is fine, hell even $800k is.
But how high are you prepared to go?
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
By offering $650-700k/year I'm talking about a negotiable starting point.
$700k is fine, hell even $800k is.
But how high are you prepared to go?
All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
By offering $650-700k/year I'm talking about a negotiable starting point.
$700k is fine, hell even $800k is.
But how high are you prepared to go?
All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
Pretty simple isn't it
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
By offering $650-700k/year I'm talking about a negotiable starting point.
$700k is fine, hell even $800k is.
But how high are you prepared to go?
All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
Multiply the above by 1.25 and youll be closer to reality.
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Would offer Hurley something like 5-6 years @ $650-700k.
Great player but anything over that amount I would consider detrimental to the list as a whole looking to the future. It will damage our ability to chase further players to achieve the depth we are clearly lacking.
Thanks Dan...
Thanks WP...
I'd actually offer Hurley minimum $700k a season
By offering $650-700k/year I'm talking about a negotiable starting point.
$700k is fine, hell even $800k is.
But how high are you prepared to go?
All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
Multiply the above by 1.25 and youll be closer to reality.
God I hope you are wrong.
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All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
I like this idea and this is what needs to happen if we're going to offer blokes $900k+ to come to RFC. Chaplin is gone that's a given. Problem is Grigg and Houli are hardwicks faves. Also need to ditch vickery and Griffiths and maybe even B Ellis.
Heck we could afford to bring in two big names for those guys' salaries...
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All the way.
Get rid of Grigg. ($350k), Houli ($300k), Chaplin ($400k)
3 guys that should be gone anyway.
That should just about do it.
I like this idea and this is what needs to happen if we're going to offer blokes $900k+ to come to RFC. Chaplin is gone that's a given. Problem is Grigg and Houli are hardwicks faves. Also need to ditch vickery and Griffiths and maybe even B Ellis.
Heck we could afford to bring in two big names for those guys' salaries...
:clapping
Mi$$ Chaplin, Troy
Hamp$on, $haun
Grigg, $haun
Houli, Bachar
Morri$, $teven
Hunt, Taylor
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If we're going to offer big money to anybody it should be Hogan IMO. Watching him play ATM and the bloke looks a superstar.
Imagine stealing him AND Hurley, with Riewoldt and Rance alongside them.
I'd be offering him a ten year deal at $800,000-1,000,000/year. See if we could get him at around 800-900 with such a long deal.
Need to ditch some of these passengers we have tho like you've listed Stalin!
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If we're going to offer big money to anybody it should be Hogan IMO. Watching him play ATM and the bloke looks a superstar.
Imagine stealing him AND Hurley, with Riewoldt and Rance alongside them.
I'd be offering him a ten year deal at $800,000-1,000,000/year. See if we could get him at around 800-900 with such a long deal.
Need to ditch some of these passengers we have tho like you've listed Stalin!
hogan hurley and zac clarke
then wed be talkin
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can we only have 30 on the list?
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can we only have 30 on the list?
Nah just think about all the players we have on the list who offer us NOTHING.
Guys like Conca and Chaplin who are on $350,000+ each.
Ditch them both, grab an A-grade player, and replace them with kids to develop.
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Gjven the strengths and weakness of the list - would be a big fish :pray
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Richmond has offered $900,000 for 5 years..
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Richmond has offered $900,000 for 5 years..
Source? Legit question
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SEN, the two radio hosts on there at the moment (Harf and Marco). Very legit about they were!!
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Pretty expensive but you get what you pay for and I'd do it. We desperately need another KPD
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Pretty expensive but you get what you pay for and I'd do it. We desperately need another KPD
less expesnive when you add up the wage of
hampson
grigg
houli
b ellis
morris
hunt
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Pretty expensive but you get what you pay for and I'd do it. We desperately need another KPD
less expesnive when you add up the wage of
hampson
grigg
houli
b ellis
morris
hunt
Think everyone is, even Buddy
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wat
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http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-16/tigers-offering-michael-hurley-big-deal#BchgBsUv7LOjzDb9.97
I've got your back WAT, you owe me one :snidegrin
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:sleep :pray
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Pretty expensive but you get what you pay for and I'd do it. We desperately need another KPD
less expesnive when you add up the wage of
hampson
grigg
houli
b ellis
morris
hunt
Think everyone is, even Buddy
that chaplin potato is an over paid gimp too
hampson
grigg
houli
b ellis
morris
hunt
chaplin
2-3 list blockers = 1 big fish
:whistle :whistle
#moneyball
the salary cap will proabley go up another 25% with the new tv right$$
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I don't think we would really need to cut list blockers to free up the space anyway, don't we have a war chest? Plus if you cut 2-3 you have to find 2-3 players for the list. IF we got Hurley we wouldn't need Chaplin anymore anyway so that's an easy choice to make
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name a better backline than Rance/Hurley with grimes as the 3rd tall.......
that backline would make us a genuine Premiership contender
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I don't think we would really need to cut list blockers to free up the space anyway, don't we have a war chest? Plus if you cut 2-3 you have to find 2-3 players for the list. IF we got Hurley we wouldn't need Chaplin anymore anyway so that's an easy choice to make
Not if Chaplin excercises his option for an extra year :shh
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name a better backline than Rance/Hurley with grimes as the 3rd tall.......
that backline would make us a genuine Premiership contender
they say u need a good backline to win a flag ...
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I don't think we would really need to cut list blockers to free up the space anyway, don't we have a war chest? Plus if you cut 2-3 you have to find 2-3 players for the list. IF we got Hurley we wouldn't need Chaplin anymore anyway so that's an easy choice to make
Not if Chaplin excercises his option for an extra year :shh
Surely we'd stop playing him.....surely........surely????
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Pretty expensive but you get what you pay for and I'd do it. We desperately need another KPD
Surprisingly I agree.
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http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-16/tigers-offering-michael-hurley-big-deal#BchgBsUv7LOjzDb9.97
I've got your back WAT, you owe me one :snidegrin
:thumbsup
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http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-16/tigers-offering-michael-hurley-big-deal#BchgBsUv7LOjzDb9.97
Here's the full article. $900k p.a for 5 years for Hurley.
Tigers offering Michael Hurley big deal
Joshua Papanikolaou, Justin Talent
SEN
16 May 2016, 06:47PM
Richmond is believed to be prepared to offer suspended Essendon key defender Michael Hurley a very lucrative long-term deal, according to Daniel Harford.
The 25-year-old is yet to commit to play for the Bombers in 2017 as he serves his 12-month ban with eleven of his teammates for their part in the supplements saga.
He has been at the Bombers for seven seasons and was impressive in 2015 averaging 21 disposals and nearly seven marks per game earning him All-Australian honours.
"Well I heard Mark Robinson and Andy Maher talking today about the Bombers' dozen and the players that have re-committed to the footy club," explained Harford on SEN radio.
"But I did hear Robbo talking about Michael Hurley and the fact that he might be 50/50 - that's interesting because not too long before that I had received some correspondence from a gentleman who would know things in football who has told me that Richmond have made a $900,000 for five (years) to Michael Hurley."
Harford later added that Richmond would be stupid not to look at Hurley to replace the ageing Troy Chaplin down back.
"They would be stupid not to. Look at Richmond. You’ve got Alex Rance who is clearly one of the dominant defenders of the competition but you get another pillar down there," he said.
"Troy Chaplin has been that stopgap for a couple of years now and he’s been serviceable throughout the journey but he’s not going to be there long-term."
He also believes that Essendon's promises of a better future may not sway the defender from remaining at the club if his rumoured resentment following his 12 month suspension remains.
"The state of the list may not even come into play for Michael Hurley," said Harford.
"If he has still got that anger, he might just need to get out. The state of the list might have zero influence on his decision."
On another note with the Tigers, Harford believes their emotional and lively celebrations following a one-point win after the siren against Sydney was good for the team and supporters.
However, he did note that the team should be careful not to try and extend that winning form playing on the emotion of that victory alone.
“The fans want to see that emotion and there’s no other way in that scenario when you’re kicking a goal after the siren it is fever pitch, particularly when you’re the Tigers and you’ve had a crap run playing a quality team,” said Harford.
“If he doesn’t kick that goal their world is still imploding… so I was pumped to see that sort of emotional reaction from the Tigers.
“You can’t rely on that, you can’t play on emotion every week because emotion disappears for a phase then your best becomes your worst very quickly.”
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Who broke this story......from where ....... :snidegrin
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Hurley would have to do a forward pocket apprenticeship before he could play in our backline
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Can someone please confirm Chaplins contract situation? I hear a lot of contrary information. What was thr deal he signed to come across in 2012?
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Who broke this story......from where ....... :snidegrin
Harford did. Did you read the article? :huh
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Can someone please confirm Chaplins contract situation? I hear a lot of contrary information. What was thr deal he signed to come across in 2012?
He had a 4th year clause & activated it , OOC end of this year
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
Based on his dodgy knees?
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
The Richmond whipping boy slot is up for grabs in '17 then.
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
The Richmond whipping boy slot is up for grabs in '17 then.
Yarran will hopefully be playing then
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
The Richmond whipping boy slot is up for grabs in '17 then.
Sideshow Bob will still be there. :thumbsup
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....and you, Oxx, Dooks & dwaino will still have Cotchin.....
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Don't lump me in with those t1ts. I don't have a whipping boy. I'm not that emotionally invested. I just think he's a poo captain. But inb4 some anecdotal instances and a heap of full stops.
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
Based on his dodgy knees?
Yes, very much so
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My view is Chaplin will retire
;D ;) ;D
Agreed
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http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-16/tigers-offering-michael-hurley-big-deal#BchgBsUv7LOjzDb9.97
I've got your back WAT, you owe me one :snidegrin
Harford wouldnt mention this if he didn't hear it from a very good source. He is not the sort of guy who would do it just for attention.
If we could pull this off we would be in decent shape going forward.
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....and you, Oxx, Dooks & dwaino will still have Cotchin.....
Cotchin isnt at the top of my list of problems players. But hes a significant part of the problem.
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Don't lump me in with those t1ts. I don't have a whipping boy. I'm not that emotionally invested. I just think he's a poo captain. But inb4 some anecdotal instances and a heap of full stops.
FACT
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Just get him.
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Essendon to hold talks on Michael Hurley's future
AFL.com.au
18th May, 2016
ESSENDON CEO Xavier Campbell will meet with Michael Hurley's management later this week as speculation about the key defender's future heats up.
Hurley remains contracted with Essendon until the end of 2017, however, he is yet to deliver a commitment to the Bombers that he will return next season.
The 25-year-old is understood to be in no rush to declare his intention, and while the Bombers remain in the box seat to retain him, he is keeping his options open as he works his way towards a final decision while serving his season-long suspension.
Campbell confirmed on SEN radio on Tuesday afternoon the meeting would take place this week and said the club was comfortable with the situation.
"I'd like to think we'll have those discussions and I feel quietly confident we'll get to the position we need to get to, but this has been a complicated issue and it is not something we have wanted to rush or will rush at all," Campbell said.
Several Victorian AFL clubs contacted by AFL.com.au on Tuesday believe Hurley will not leave Essendon to join another Victorian club.
Although he remains an attractive prospect for opposition sides, sources at clubs such as Richmond and Melbourne say they have made no offer to Hurley.
Sydney Swans football manager Tom Harley told K-Rock radio on the weekend that Hurley was not on the Swans' radar, but reports in April suggested Adelaide was interested in the banned Bomber.
Campbell said it was hypothetical to speculate on what might happen if Hurley asked to be traded, with different viewpoints on whether he would have any right to declare himself a delisted free agent due to a fundamental breach of his contract.
Campbell repeated the Bombers consistent line that they wanted each player to come to their own decision as to whether they wanted to return to the club.
"The fans love Michael, and his teammates love him and we love him at the football club. He's a big part of our future and a really important part of our list management strategy," Campbell said.
"The reality is you want players that want to play for Essendon. That is why we are not rushing any particular player. We feel confident and we are going to fight hard to retain the players, but we are going to do it appropriately and with a reasoned voice as well."
Any potential trade involving Hurley would require high draft picks given his standing in the game after 119 games and aged 26 at the start of next season.
The All Australian centre half-back had a brilliant 2015 but needed shoulder surgery at the end of the season.
Hurley was undergoing rehabilitation when the Court of Arbitration for Sport handed down its penalty to 34 past and present Essendon players.
Five of the suspended 12 players on the Bombers' list have already committed to play in 2017 with Cale Hooker, David Myers, Travis Colyer and Heath Hocking re-signing with the Bombers, while Dyson Heppell has pledged to fulfil his contract.
Hurley, Jobe Watson, Tom Bellchambers, Michael Hibberd, Ben Howlett, Tayte Pears and Brent Stanton have not declared their intentions in 2017.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-17/essendon-to-hold-talks-on-michael-hurleys-future
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Essendon coach John Worsfold won't be involved in the club's discussions with suspended star Michael Hurley's management this week as the All Australian defender weighs up his future beyond 2016.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-19/woosha-to-sit-out-hurley-discussions
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Barrett on FC tonight said he believes a decision by Hurley won't be made until late into the season, even into the last week. It'll take until then for Hurley to get a clear idea on what he wants to do. Barrett believes Hurley will stay at this stage and Essendon believe they have a binding contract until 2017 and that the AFL backs this up. If Hurley does want to leave, his manager (Paul Connors?) will claim breach of contract by Essendon as a result of the WADA saga and he and Hurley will need to take this to court to get a clearance. Barrett added, as far as other interested clubs, the usual names are involved - Richmond (in this in a big way), Hawthorn and even Melbourne.
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Hurley to re-sign with Essendon within 6 weeks according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 just now.
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Hurley to re-sign with Essendon within 6 weeks according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 just now.
Went out on a limb there! Six weeks? Why will he take that long? A lot of things can happen in 6 weeks!
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Hurley to re-sign with Essendon within 6 weeks according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 just now.
Please no!!!
If we can get Hurley we can improve quickly IMO. I am curtain of it!!
Rance and Grimes need desperate help down back and if we could secure Hurley we are set there for 5,6,7 years.
Add a healthy Yarran and McIntosh and we have the makings of a very talented backline.
We need another KPF and some big bodied mids but it's a very good start.
Add Barlow and draft a Stringer/C. Oliver/Cripps type. Big, hard, AGILE mids. That is the prototype of today's footy.
No more soft, quiet, skinny introverts. Forget about them having good character, just make sure they can HUNT the footy. We need competitive beasts, not little boys.
Go hard at Tomlinson. Promise him a spot in the midfield and tell him to tell the GWS to get stuffed and he is heading to Tigerland.
Go hard at a decent YOUNG ruckman. There will be some available, so just hold your jets until things unfold at the end of the year.
Trade out guys that consistently let us down - Vickery, Griffiths, BEllis, Houli, and get some kids that want to TACKLE and run both ways.
But most importantly get rid of FJ and Dimma's outdated, outrageous, outlandish game plan. Let our guys play attacking, high risk, high reward footy. Give us supporters something decent to watch while we wait for some of the new guys to improve and get to the level needed.
Come on Tigers, shut your mouth about making finals and look to the future. Start the ball rolling on decisions for next year. Speak to managers, get in their ears and make these guys offers they cannot refuse. It can be done!
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Forget it, we couldn't attract a 6 meter great white in a bath tub full of dead seals let alone Hurley or any other player of note!!! The RFC story!
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Hurley to re-sign with Essendon within 6 weeks according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 just now.
Went out on a limb there! Six weeks? Why will he take that long? A lot of things can happen in 6 weeks!
Don't know, YaBB. I was just repeating what Stevens said.
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Forget it, we couldn't attract a 6 meter great white in a bath tub full of dead seals let alone Hurley or any other player of note!!! The RFC story!
A six metre great white wouldn't fit in a bath tub WAT.
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Forget it, we couldn't attract a 6 meter great white in a bath tub full of dead seals let alone Hurley or any other player of note!!! The RFC story!
A six metre great white wouldn't fit in a bath tub WAT.
:help
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Forget it, we couldn't attract a 6 meter great white in a bath tub full of dead seals let alone Hurley or any other player of note!!! The RFC story!
A six metre great white wouldn't fit in a bath tub WAT.
:clapping :clapping :lol :lol
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I am sure you ffffing half wits knew exactly what I meant, so stop with your crap, foff if all you can do is ridicule posts to no end.
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Well stop making it so easy.....
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I am sure you ffffing half wits knew exactly what I meant, so stop with your crap, foff if all you can do is ridicule posts to no end.
Calm down
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Forget it, we couldn't attract a 6 meter great white in a bath tub full of dead seals let alone Hurley or any other player of note!!! The RFC story!
A six metre great white wouldn't fit in a bath tub WAT.
Depends how big the bath is innit
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Well stop making it so easy.....
Mate it was a saying so don't be so stupid. Just like saying "siphon the python"......we all know what that means don't we, we don't over analyse it do we to the point of being ridiculous.. ..so wake up FFS.
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"Mick Hurley I caught up with and it was good to see the man," Chapman told radio station RSN 927 on Tuesday.
"I just asked him about his future and what he's thinking and everything like that. And obviously knowing Mick, he's a very loyal person and he loves the Essendon Football Club and his teammates but, I don't know, there was just something in the way that we spoke that just made me think that maybe he's still hurting a little bit from everything that's happened.
"Whether or not he's totally over it or not, it didn't really look like it to me.
"I think he'll stay because he's loyal but it wasn't definite. I thought I would be able to gauge exactly what was going on (but) it was sort of hard to gauge exactly how he was feeling."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-paul-chapman-expects-hurt-michael-hurley-to-stay-at-essendon-20160613-gpiblx.html
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The nazis were loyal too
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The nazis were loyal too
Laughed so hard at this. Because your username is Stalin.
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If we can get Hurley we can improve quickly IMO. I am curtain of it!!
Rance and Grimes need desperate help down back and if we could secure Hurley we are set there for 5,6,7 years.
Add a healthy Yarran and McIntosh and we have the makings of a very talented backline.
We need another KPF and some big bodied mids but it's a very good start.
Add Barlow and draft a Stringer/C. Oliver/Cripps type. Big, hard, AGILE mids. That is the prototype of today's footy.
No more soft, quiet, skinny introverts. Forget about them having good character, just make sure they can HUNT the footy. We need competitive beasts, not little boys.
Go hard at Tomlinson. Promise him a spot in the midfield and tell him to tell the GWS to get stuffed and he is heading to Tigerland.
Go hard at a decent YOUNG ruckman. There will be some available, so just hold your jets until things unfold at the end of the year.
Trade out guys that consistently let us down - Vickery, Griffiths, BEllis, Houli, and get some kids that want to TACKLE and run both ways.
But most importantly get rid of FJ and Dimma's outdated, outrageous, outlandish game plan. Let our guys play attacking, high risk, high reward footy. Give us supporters something decent to watch while we wait for some of the new guys to improve and get to the level needed.
Come on Tigers, shut your mouth about making finals and look to the future. Start the ball rolling on decisions for next year. Speak to managers, get in their ears and make these guys offers they cannot refuse. It can be done!
Good post Tone.
It gives hope that this debacle could possibly be turned around pretty quickly. There is some urgency to this, it needs to happen while our stars are still in their prime.
I am still holding out hope for Hurley. Why would he wait until the end of the season to announce what he is doing. That is usually a sign that you are off.
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ESSENDON would receive no free agency compensation pick if Michael Hurley walked out to one of a growing list of AFL suitors.
The All-Australian centre half-back remains unwilling to commit to the Bombers.
The collective bargaining agreement states if a player can prove a breach of contract their club has not been able to remedy, they are able to terminate their contract.
The club must then immediately terminate their contract, allowing them to move to their club of choice as a delisted free agent.
The player could prove that breach either through the AFL’s grievance tribunal or through a court of law.
Clubs including the Western Bulldogs, Adelaide and North Melbourne are believed to be monitoring his situation with interest.
The 26-year-old seems genuinely torn between his love of Essendon and his frustration their conduct left him sidelined in the peak of his career.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/essendon-to-get-no-free-agency-compensation-pick-if-michael-hurley-decides-to-leave-the-bombers/news-story/a2f3094a8db28b8edd2b23dc40493c80
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:shh
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Hurley is going away according to Ch 7, so there will be no announcement soon on whether Hurley quits Essendon or not. Worsfold is apparently seeking a meeting before Hurley goes.
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He's gone. I just hope we're the club that have got him.
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He's gone. I just hope we're the club that have got him.
So your Hurley and your making yourself a cup of tea and there's a knock at the front door, you peek out the window and you see Dumma & Lard with a box of chocolates in hand & ones holding a brief case. Just while your contemplating answering the door you get another knock at the back door at you peek out the other window & it's Clarko & Ratten with a box of chocolates & a briefcase in hand.
What do you do?
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grab a picture mag and head off to the crapper for 1/2 an hour so
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He's gone. I just hope we're the club that have got him.
So your Hurley and your making yourself a cup of tea and there's a knock at the front door, you peek out the window and you see Dumma & Lard with a box of chocolates in hand & ones holding a brief case. Just while your contemplating answering the door you get another knock at the back door at you peek out the other window & it's Clarko & Ratten with a box of chocolates & a briefcase in hand.
What do you do?
Just go to the drug cheat - taxi driver bashing flogs house with a 8 million dollar Check and tell him he gets to play next to rance an grimes
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ESSENDON will put a timeline in place to know the plans of its six banned players who remain uncommitted for next year as the club edges towards the end of its 2016 season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-15/essendon-planning-timeline-for-uncommitted-banned-bombers
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Was just listening to SEN and they said Hurleys management told Richmond he wasn't interested in going to the Tigers..
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Was just listening to SEN and they said Hurleys management told Richmond he wasn't interested in going to the Tigers..
I don't get it.
He doesn't want to play for a club stuck in mediocrity? He doesn't like the coaches award winning game plan? He doesn't like kicking sideways or backwards to go forwards? He doesn't like our last 35 years of solid commitment of disappointing fans? He doesn't like our recruiting strategy? He doesn't like not shepherding? He doesn't like getting paid top dollar without the threat of accountability? He doesn't like to lose finals when it's so hard for the Tigers to just make them? He doesn't like to not have to tackle anymore?
I don't understand this bloke. :rollin
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:gotigers
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SEN say a lot of things......
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SEN say a lot of things......
Yeah but what they say is spot on and is the be all end all... well according to some (one)
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Campbell said he was "quietly confident" Hurley, who has a five-year extension on the table, would return.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/supplements-saga-banned-bombers-to-meet-in-croatia-20160716-gq76cj.html
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SEN say a lot of things......
true, but given our track record, statements like that are probably closer to the mark