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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 15, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-15/2015-richmond-list-changes
The Donut and the biscuit are both digested by the club....
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Why not try and trade McDonough he would have some sort of value surely ?
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Why not try and trade McDonough he would have some sort of value surely ?
Nup, no one was interested
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Great, delist the two guys that were never given a fair crack at it...FFS, this club.. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Great, delist the two guys that were never given a fair crack at it...FFS, this club.. :banghead :banghead :banghead
You are aware that with the retirements + these 2 de-listings we've freed up 6 spots on the list.
That we've delisted 2 blokes that have zero currency?
Also, there will be more changes between now and the first official list lodgement? Why delist anyone else now when there is a chance you can trade them? Eg those out of contract who haven't re-signed
Suggest people take a collective deep breath and see how the entire FA & trade period plays out over the next 4 weeks rather blowing a "woofer" valve on day 2 of said period :thumbsup
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WP has the trade period started?
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WP has the trade period started?
Officially no, but clubs out of the finals are already talking
So plenty going on behind the scenes :thumbsup
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Thought with the retirements and other probable delistings that we could have persisted with McDonough. Didn't get enough of a crack after doing all he could in the twos IMO.
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Good decisions. Not in the best 22
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This is the perfect time to ensure Matt stays on as a VFL player. Other clubs seem to do this well and so should we. He is a solid VFL player.
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Really bummed about the biscuit. I feel he can really offer something if given a decent crack and not played out of position
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How many years do you give a guy before you decide there no good?
Eff me both these guys have proven not once or twice but several times that there just not up to it!!
Good luck with whatever the future brings lads with a bit of luck you'll become someone else's problem.
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Great, delist the two guys that were never given a fair crack at it...FFS, this club.. :banghead :banghead :banghead
You are aware that with the retirements + these 2 de-listings we've freed up 6 spots on the list.
That we've delisted 2 blokes that have zero currency?
Also, there will be more changes between now and the first official list lodgement? Why delist anyone else now when there is a chance you can trade them? Eg those out of contract who haven't re-signed
Suggest people take a collective deep breath and see how the entire FA & trade period plays out over the next 4 weeks rather blowing a "woofer" valve on day 2 of said period :thumbsup
Yes I'm aware of it thanks, I'm aware of it all. Just amazes me that we delist two that we never gave a chance to
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Stfurfc and buy a flag.
I'm sick of you idiots trying to win one.
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Would've thought Matt Dea & Nathan Gordon would ahead of both - particularly McDonuts who I agree was consistently good in the 2's but given no real go in the 1's.
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Gordon at least. You would hope that Dea still being there would give him hope for next year. He really deserved a crack about 8 games ago.
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Would've thought Matt Dea & Nathan Gordon would ahead of both - particularly McDonuts who I agree was consistently good in the 2's but given no real go in the 1's.
Hasn't Dea been as constantly good in the two's?
Both regularly showing where there level is at....
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McDonuts >>> Grigg
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How's Morris survive.
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How's Morris survive.
Trade bait ;)
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Moro might have helped with Boomer on Sunday.
He might turn it over but at least he makes it hard for his opponent.
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In hindsight should we have delisted Nahas and Matt White, ?
IMVHO, they could have been in the mix for us this season
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Ironically Nahas is probably a better small forward than any we have.
Shame for Arnot IMO. Should just have been used as an inside mid/battering ram. None of this half-forward nonsense.
Never saw much in McDonough personally.
Astbury and Griffiths should be traded. McKenzie, McBean and Elton keep to develop.
Conca trade.
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Thomas should be gone to and Gordon and retire Chaplin.
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Would've thought Matt Dea & Nathan Gordon would ahead of both - particularly McDonuts who I agree was consistently good in the 2's but given no real go in the 1's.
Hasn't Dea been as constantly good in the two's?
Both regularly showing where there level is at....
Dea has been with us for 6 seasons which is double McDough, would've thought Dea has found his level but Donuts still has upside .....
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Really bummed about the biscuit. I feel he can really offer something if given a decent crack and not played out of position
Agree.
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I would have delisted Gordon and Thomas before Arnot and McDonough. I suppose they see Dea as Newman's replacement. There is no way I would trade Astbury particularly with how bad Chaplin is.
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How's Morris survive.
Trade bait ;)
you go out fishing and put a cigarette butt on a hook and see just how much you catch.
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
:facepalm
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de;listings are fair call but I would have still thought lkikes of Thomas, dea , astbury could have been cut maybe astbury for trade the other 2 lets me honest cant find places in our team and if we are to grow its not through them... Not sure were morris sits and also Gordon we all know its either Gordon or llyold playing. Hampson well who knows what we are thinking there he is a hell of a lot cheaper then kruezer but has a 1-2 years left in him maric has 1-02 years left griffo ty cant ruck all games
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Great, delist the two guys that were never given a fair crack at it...FFS, this club.. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Also, there will be more changes between now and the first official list lodgement? Why delist anyone else now when there is a chance you can trade them? Eg those out of contract who haven't re-signed
Why wouldn't you save everyone for when trade period comes up and delist after? Not arguing with the choice of people delisted but why couldn't they wait?
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Great, delist the two guys that were never given a fair crack at it...FFS, this club.. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Also, there will be more changes between now and the first official list lodgement? Why delist anyone else now when there is a chance you can trade them? Eg those out of contract who haven't re-signed
Why wouldn't you save everyone for when trade period comes up and delist after? Not arguing with the choice of people delisted but why couldn't they wait?
I think that the answer to that is that they are being nice to the players. The club probably knows their trade value (i.e. nobody wants them) from trying to trade them previously. Keeping them on the list till after the trade period would not allow them to talk to other clubs, maybe signal their intentions to join any of them (even as rookies) and thus allow these clubs a chance to review their lists and consider them as possibilities. Their is no advantage to to the club holding onto them.
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Gordon Gone?
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youd hope so
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Both delistings were good at getting contested possessions and clearances yet they are the first to go. We need inside mids. I hope they recruit a quality inside mid. Miles can't be expected to carry the entire team.
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Gordon Gone?
Dimma is a big fan, not going anywhere
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McDonough is very stiff!
Re-rookied?
Arnot was played out of position in the AFL but wasn't dominate in VFL playing as that midfielder.
There is a player named Shaun Grigg who continually does FA in big matches and continually flys under the radar!
He would be first i would kick out!
Would keep Astbury, replace Chaplin.
Batchelor got destroyed and is not a key defender! Would offer him up for trade.
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McDonough is very stiff!
Re-rookied?
Arnot was played out of position in the AFL but wasn't dominate in VFL playing as that midfielder.
There is a player named Shaun Grigg who continually does FA in big matches and continually flys under the radar!
He would be first i would kick out!
Would keep Astbury, replace Chaplin.
Batchelor got destroyed and is not a key defender! Would offer him up for trade.
Totally agree.
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
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McDonough is very stiff!
Re-rookied?
Arnot was played out of position in the AFL but wasn't dominate in VFL playing as that midfielder.
There is a player named Shaun Grigg who continually does FA in big matches and continually flys under the radar!
He would be first i would kick out!
Would keep Astbury, replace Chaplin.
Batchelor got destroyed and is not a key defender! Would offer him up for trade.
Totally agree.
:clapping :clapping
It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid,of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
:clapping :clapping
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Don't agree with all those you want gone Ox but I do agree with your sentiment
Time to tough, time to be daring.
Want to bring quality in, you have to give up something of value
We haven't had the guts before to it, this year we have to be ruthless
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Don't agree with all those you want gone Ox but I do agree with your sentiment
Time to tough, time to be daring.
Want to bring quality in, you have to give up something of value
We haven't had the guts before to it, this year we have to be ruthless
Yes, but don't you think this approach pertains to dragging ones nethers in the gutter?
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Why would you delist the ones getting a game? Wouldn't it make more sense to aim for them to become depth (or trade them)
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Why would you delist the ones getting a game? Wouldn't it make more sense to aim for them to become depth (or trade them)
what does it say about them, when they have no trade value?
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Why would you delist the ones getting a game? Wouldn't it make more sense to aim for them to become depth (or trade them)
I'm guessing it's partially Hardwicks decision to give walk in start up positions to blokes who
A - aren't match fit by a long stretch
B - aren't up to the level WE require to become an A team, which correct me if I'm wrong, is our target.
C- I also speak of the Griggs and Ellis's that are further liabilities. Chaplin too.
So I see these guys not as depth but rather as guys who should get the chop.
Hope that makes it a little clearer
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I think you have made it clearer on why you could not be the coach
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Why would you delist the ones getting a game? Wouldn't it make more sense to aim for them to become depth (or trade them)
I'm guessing it's partially Hardwicks decision to give walk in start up positions to blokes who
A - aren't match fit by a long stretch
B - aren't up to the level WE require to become an A team, which correct me if I'm wrong, is our target.
C- I also speak of the Griggs and Ellis's that are further liabilities. Chaplin too.
So I see these guys not as depth but rather as guys who should get the chop.
Hope that makes it a little clearer
Ahhh so you rather leave the even worse players in the team
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
Wheres Bojangles, surely he thinks Morris is one of those stable of stars that Blair has resigned. :whistle
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Both delistings were good at getting contested possessions and clearances yet they are the first to go. We need inside mids. I hope they recruit a quality inside mid. Miles can't be expected to carry the entire team.
Thomas has shown hes a far better inside mid than both at VFL and been more than servicable at afl when played, yet everyone wants him gone. Thomas has shown at AFL level that he is damn good at C/Ps, Clearances and Tackles. I would say he is top three at the club in these areas when he plays.He also does a lot of the heavy inside grunt work taking pressure of the likes of Miles and Cotchin. I would keep Thomas over many players at the club including McDonough and Arnot.
People need to go look at the inside mids we have. We have just two that i would term big bodied mids. Martin who plays more outside and Thomas who plays inside.
Personally i think Thomas is a needed player.
In saying that and like every one else. I would like an upgrade on Matt, someone with better skills and a bit more pace.
Everyone has long said we replaced Tuck with Miles. It has always been my opinion we replaced Foley with Miles and the closest we have come to replacIing Tucky is Thomas.
The side continues to scream out for a big bodied inside mid around 190cm and 90plus kg. Truth be told Matt Thomas is the only one of this type on the list.
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Both delistings were good at getting contested possessions and clearances yet they are the first to go. We need inside mids. I hope they recruit a quality inside mid. Miles can't be expected to carry the entire team.
Thomas has shown hes a far better inside mid than both at VFL and been more than servicable at afl when played, yet everyone wants him gone. Thomas has shown at AFL level that he is damn good at C/Ps, Clearances and Tackles. I would say he is top three at the club in these areas when he plays.He also does a lot of the heavy inside grunt work taking pressure of the likes of Miles and Cotchin. I would keep Thomas over many players at the club including McDonough and Arnot.
People need to go look at the inside mids we have. We have just two that i would term big bodied mids. Martin who plays more outside and Thomas who plays inside.
Personally i think Thomas is a needed player.
In saying that and like every one else. I would like an upgrade on Matt, someone with better skills and a bit more pace.
Everyone has long said we replaced Tuck with Miles. It has always been my opinion we replaced Foley with Miles and the closest we have come to replacIing Tucky is Thomas.
The side continues to scream out for a big bodied inside mid around 190cm and 90plus kg. Truth be told Matt Thomas is the only one of this type on the list.
Agreed Claw, he was very good in most of the VFL games I saw & I reckon his kicking was better
We def need a Swans Kennedy type, Redden ?
I think Kam McK may in time be this beast
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
Wheres Bojangles, surely he thinks Morris is one of those stable of stars that Blair has resigned. :whistle
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Cut it out claw it's not easy finding cap space when you have the eq most AA representatives , credit to our recruiting and development,,,,,,again :clapping
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Both delistings were good at getting contested possessions and clearances yet they are the first to go. We need inside mids. I hope they recruit a quality inside mid. Miles can't be expected to carry the entire team.
Thomas has shown hes a far better inside mid than both at VFL and been more than servicable at afl when played, yet everyone wants him gone. Thomas has shown at AFL level that he is damn good at C/Ps, Clearances and Tackles. I would say he is top three at the club in these areas when he plays.He also does a lot of the heavy inside grunt work taking pressure of the likes of Miles and Cotchin. I would keep Thomas over many players at the club including McDonough and Arnot.
People need to go look at the inside mids we have. We have just two that i would term big bodied mids. Martin who plays more outside and Thomas who plays inside.
Personally i think Thomas is a needed player.
In saying that and like every one else. I would like an upgrade on Matt, someone with better skills and a bit more pace.
Everyone has long said we replaced Tuck with Miles. It has always been my opinion we replaced Foley with Miles and the closest we have come to replacIing Tucky is Thomas.
The side continues to scream out for a big bodied inside mid around 190cm and 90plus kg. Truth be told Matt Thomas is the only one of this type on the list.
So who did we replace Jackson with? Both Tuck and Jackson have not been replaced and it shows.
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
Wheres Bojangles, surely he thinks Morris is one of those stable of stars that Blair has resigned. :whistle
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Cut it out claw it's not easy finding cap space when you have the eq most AA representatives , credit to our recruiting and development,,,,,,again :clapping
Yeah credit to them for building a list of softy finals chokers... :clapping
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It's easy to get rid of blokes who don't get a game at RIchmond.
I want them to get rid of the ones who ARE getting a game.
That's what defines good admin.
Here here ox. It is something that an awful lot just cant seem to grasp. It is also something that is at the crux of all our problems and debates.
When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
I cant name one player since Hardwicks first year that we have delisted that was an iffy call, not one.
It is always like this. Club says we have Vickery and Griffiths we dont need a tall fwd we dont even need to bring one in. Or it goes we have Rance we dont need anymore top line defenders, besides Chappy is good enough as far as we are concerned and we have a couple of defenders in the wings despite them doing very little. They are content with what they have despite it being obvious what they have is not good enough.
They amble along never doing what needs to be done, never prepared to make a hard call or even take a small step backwards, always content playing mediocre players who have always let us down when it matters most. Never ever saying geez Newman is struggling a lot lately maybe its time to take a small step backwards and play Lennon as a forward.
On and on we can go.
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Both delistings were good at getting contested possessions and clearances yet they are the first to go. We need inside mids. I hope they recruit a quality inside mid. Miles can't be expected to carry the entire team.
Thomas has shown hes a far better inside mid than both at VFL and been more than servicable at afl when played, yet everyone wants him gone. Thomas has shown at AFL level that he is damn good at C/Ps, Clearances and Tackles. I would say he is top three at the club in these areas when he plays.He also does a lot of the heavy inside grunt work taking pressure of the likes of Miles and Cotchin. I would keep Thomas over many players at the club including McDonough and Arnot.
People need to go look at the inside mids we have. We have just two that i would term big bodied mids. Martin who plays more outside and Thomas who plays inside.
Personally i think Thomas is a needed player.
In saying that and like every one else. I would like an upgrade on Matt, someone with better skills and a bit more pace.
Everyone has long said we replaced Tuck with Miles. It has always been my opinion we replaced Foley with Miles and the closest we have come to replacIing Tucky is Thomas.
The side continues to scream out for a big bodied inside mid around 190cm and 90plus kg. Truth be told Matt Thomas is the only one of this type on the list.
So who did we replace Jackson with? Both Tuck and Jackson have not been replaced and it shows.
Good point i had forgot about Jacksons retirement.
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When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
Grigg surely earned his money this year, had a pretty decent season for a guy on mediocre coin.
Nahas springs to mind, Mitch Morten, Addam Maric, Webberley Derrix and McGuane. All guys that were getting a game a few years ago and arn't now. You can only get rid of guys when you've got a more talented replacement.
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When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
Grigg surely earned his money this year, had a pretty decent season for a guy on mediocre coin.
Nahas springs to mind, Mitch Morten, Addam Maric, Webberley Derrix and McGuane. All guys that were getting a game a few years ago and arn't now. You can only get rid of guys when you've got a more talented replacement.
Wow what a list of hard decisions.Nahas was and still is a bum. Morton was going to be delisted we traded him for a pick we didnt use. He managed just 12 games at Sydney in two years doing very little confirming how poor he was. His claim to fame is he was in the right place right time and luckily walked into a premiership. Do you think either of these players were hard decisions.
Lol Maric, Webberley, Derickx, McGuane all hacks and in McGuanes case the perfect example of us hanging onto players for too long. None of them were hard decisions.
Now Grigg like you say had a decent year imo. But nothing has changed we get the same old Shaun time and time again when we need him to stand up the most. Yes a harder call would be to delist or trade Grigg this is what i am on about. We may get more out of this bloke throughout a season but he aint ever going to take us anywhere. This was obvious yrs ago. Now well we could not trade him no one would want him.
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How's Morris survive.
Easily, he's contracted
Wheres Bojangles, surely he thinks Morris is one of those stable of stars that Blair has resigned. :whistle
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Cut it out claw it's not easy finding cap space when you have the eq most AA representatives , credit to our recruiting and development,,,,,,again :clapping
Other well run clubs manage to do it Bo.
I suggest its about time they learnt how eh.
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When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
Grigg surely earned his money this year, had a pretty decent season for a guy on mediocre coin.
Nahas springs to mind, Mitch Morten, Addam Maric, Webberley Derrix and McGuane. All guys that were getting a game a few years ago and arn't now. You can only get rid of guys when you've got a more talented replacement.
Wow what a list of hard decisions.Nahas was and still is a bum. Morton was going to be delisted we traded him for a pick we didnt use. He managed just 12 games at Sydney in two years doing very little confirming how poor he was. His claim to fame is he was in the right place right time and luckily walked into a premiership. Do you think either of these players were hard decisions.
Lol Maric, Webberley, Derickx, McGuane all hacks and in McGuanes case the perfect example of us hanging onto players for too long. None of them were hard decisions.
Now Grigg like you say had a decent year imo. But nothing has changed we get the same old Shaun time and time again when we need him to stand up the most. Yes a harder call would be to delist or trade Grigg this is what i am on about. We may get more out of this bloke throughout a season but he aint ever going to take us anywhere. This was obvious yrs ago. Now well we could not trade him no one would want him.
I agree with you mate, they're not good enough for a high quality team, but my point is you've gotta play your best 22, not your magic dream team 22. If you can pull off a Grigg for Trelaor trade, by all means make your case. Otherwise, get used to the idea he's playing for us until we find a stronger replacement.
I think what your point is, is that when he's out on the park for us, we're carrying players. Fair enough. Give Lennon, McBean, C Ellis and our 2015 first rounder some time. We're still on an upward trend for the time being :thumbsup
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When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
Grigg surely earned his money this year, had a pretty decent season for a guy on mediocre coin.
Nahas springs to mind, Mitch Morten, Addam Maric, Webberley Derrix and McGuane. All guys that were getting a game a few years ago and arn't now. You can only get rid of guys when you've got a more talented replacement.
Wow what a list of hard decisions.Nahas was and still is a bum. Morton was going to be delisted we traded him for a pick we didnt use. He managed just 12 games at Sydney in two years doing very little confirming how poor he was. His claim to fame is he was in the right place right time and luckily walked into a premiership. Do you think either of these players were hard decisions.
Lol Maric, Webberley, Derickx, McGuane all hacks and in McGuanes case the perfect example of us hanging onto players for too long. None of them were hard decisions.
Now Grigg like you say had a decent year imo. But nothing has changed we get the same old Shaun time and time again when we need him to stand up the most. Yes a harder call would be to delist or trade Grigg this is what i am on about. We may get more out of this bloke throughout a season but he aint ever going to take us anywhere. This was obvious yrs ago. Now well we could not trade him no one would want him.
I agree with you mate, they're not good enough for a high quality team, but my point is you've gotta play your best 22, not your magic dream team 22. If you can pull off a Grigg for Trelaor trade, by all means make your case. Otherwise, get used to the idea he's playing for us until we find a stronger replacement.
I think what your point is, is that when he's out on the park for us, we're carrying players. Fair enough. Give Lennon, McBean, C Ellis and our 2015 first rounder some time. We're still on an upward trend for the time being :thumbsup
I think you will find some will argue with the upward trend bit.
Some will say we have plateaued and some will say we are on a downward trend with some bizarre illogical reasoning to substantiate
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I would have played Thomas the last couple of rounds and definitely in the elimination final.
No Griffiths, no Conca.
But instead play Lennon, Thomas. Would have been far more competitive.
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When was the last time the rfc made a call on a player like Grigg. Under Hardwick we float thru cutting the obvious and never making what some think is a hard call but in effect really should be obvious.
Outside of retirements what hard call has this club made on a player.Most players have been allowed to walk away on their own terms.
Grigg surely earned his money this year, had a pretty decent season for a guy on mediocre coin.
Nahas springs to mind, Mitch Morten, Addam Maric, Webberley Derrix and McGuane. All guys that were getting a game a few years ago and arn't now. You can only get rid of guys when you've got a more talented replacement.
Wow what a list of hard decisions.Nahas was and still is a bum. Morton was going to be delisted we traded him for a pick we didnt use. He managed just 12 games at Sydney in two years doing very little confirming how poor he was. His claim to fame is he was in the right place right time and luckily walked into a premiership. Do you think either of these players were hard decisions.
Lol Maric, Webberley, Derickx, McGuane all hacks and in McGuanes case the perfect example of us hanging onto players for too long. None of them were hard decisions.
Now Grigg like you say had a decent year imo. But nothing has changed we get the same old Shaun time and time again when we need him to stand up the most. Yes a harder call would be to delist or trade Grigg this is what i am on about. We may get more out of this bloke throughout a season but he aint ever going to take us anywhere. This was obvious yrs ago. Now well we could not trade him no one would want him.
I agree with you mate, they're not good enough for a high quality team, but my point is you've gotta play your best 22, not your magic dream team 22. If you can pull off a Grigg for Trelaor trade, by all means make your case. Otherwise, get used to the idea he's playing for us until we find a stronger replacement.
I think what your point is, is that when he's out on the park for us, we're carrying players. Fair enough. Give Lennon, McBean, C Ellis and our 2015 first rounder some time. We're still on an upward trend for the time being :thumbsup
I think you will find some will argue with the upward trend bit.
Some will say we have plateaued and some will say we are on a downward trend with some bizarre illogical reasoning to substantiate.
2010 - 15th
2011 - 12th
2012- 12th
2013 - 5th
2014 - 8th
2015 - 7th
Definately plateaued. Though there are some things that can greatly affect this. Injuries would be one , we have been lucky in this area for yrs.it may be a reason for why you go down, or have very few injuries go up.The Draw speaks for itself and when you come across other sides come across injury hit sides or sides in poor form and you get the extra win or two that gets you into the 8..
Will we go into decline well that depends on the players we have bought into the club over the last three or four years. How do they stack up against other clubs is also a question that needs an answer..
juniors - Arnot delisted, Ellis 88gms, Elton 2 gms, O'Hanlon delisted. McDonough delisted, Mcbean 2gms, McIntosh 23gms, Vlastuin 61gms. Lennon 16gms. C Ellis 6gms, Menadue 5gms, Butler 0 gms, McKenzie 0 gms,.
Bit early with some, Have we found enough is the question.Have we even taken enough juniors over the last 4 or 5 years.
Mature players - Maric 154gms, Morris 78gms. Chaplin 207gms, A Edwards delisted, Knights ret. Gordon 23gms, Hampson 78gms, Lloyd 20gms. Hunt 86gms.
We have good service out of two players who are both turning 30. The rest are a pretty ordinay collection of fill ins.
Rookie picks - Banfield delisted, Miles 46gms, Thomas 101gms, Castagna 0gms. Lambert 13gms.Short 0 gms, Soldo 0 gms.
Just one really good player in Miles out of this lot. The next best one in Thomas is maligned by most.
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Thomas is as hard as nails and courageous..but hes a tractor
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Did we finish 7th or 5th this year?
If we finished 7th this year we also finished 7th in 2013.
I'm not having a shot but at least back your argument with the actual facts.
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Also, I think the stats are slightly misleading. Firstly, its a hell of a lot harder to go from 5-8 team to a 1-4 than it is a bottom.of the ladder to mid rung team.
Secondly, I rate this season as our best under Hardwick, better than 13. Didnt get the chocolates obviously, but we'll be better next year.
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Yeah next year we'll only lose the EF by a kick...onwards and upwards! :gotigers
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lol baby steps, baby steps
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lol baby steps, baby steps
Then we start it all again in the next round of finals ;D
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Did we finish 7th or 5th this year?
If we finished 7th this year we also finished 7th in 2013.
I'm not having a shot but at least back your argument with the actual facts.
Ok Louis good pick up its worse than i painted. By the way what camp are you in. Upward trend, Plateaued trend or downward trend.
Yeah next year we'll only lose the EF by a kick...onwards and upwards! :gotigers
Yeah and by the time we make top 4 in 29 yrs time we will have turned the list over just another three times. When it comes to succeeeding we sure dont like to rush things at Richmond.