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General => Forum Announcements and Feedback => Topic started by: Stalin on September 19, 2015, 06:31:29 PM
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with respect, we should be allowed to use the word 's h i t' - we are mature people here
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And on that topic, how does this filtering thing work Mods, because it seems that you can avoid it in many weird and wonderful ways so why have it at all? Is it filtered by the site host or ISP, or is it just you guys deciding what to filter?
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with respect, we should be allowed to use the word 's h i t' - we are mature people here
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Nope. Sunday best and 1955
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And on that topic, how does this filtering thing work Mods, because it seems that you can avoid it in many weird and wonderful ways so why have it at all? Is it filtered by the site host or ISP, or is it just you guys deciding what to filter?
Short answer is both
There are certain things that our site host filter, spam in particular
And yes we have swear filter as part of the forum software. Which we set up. As part of that process when a word Is added we have to include a replacement word.
Why have it? Number of reasons. Here's a couple
Firstly, facts are there are people on here that who seem to be unable to post anything without swearing, especially the F Bomb. Then there are those who get abusive towards others. The filter believe it or not takes out some of the heat of the abuse, granted probably not enough but it does help especially when we can't be on the site 24/7
Then there is the issue of kids having access to this site. We have a responsibility on that front as well. I am sure there will be people who will scoff at that but it is none the less an issue we have to deal with.
Again facts are we have lost a number of people posting on this site because of the swearing and abuse.
I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
Perhaps we need to start being stricter with imposing suspensions with those who to try to avoid swear filter, like we have done with the "C" word?
While I appreciate what offends one person doesn't always offend another we have a responsilbity to make this forum a place where everyone feels welcome. It is certainly what we want to achieve. We also need to try and get some sort of balance, the swear filter despite its obvious flaws does help with that. As we've said many times we can't be on here 24/7 so again the swear filter does help in that area as well
with respect, we should be allowed to use the word 's h i t' - we are mature people here
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With respect, in light of what has gone on today between a number of posters, which can only be described as absolute childish CRAP, i would say that your comment that "we are mature people here" is wrong.
Today's "efforts" by a number of posters were anything but mature. :banghead
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like we have done with the "C" word?
This isn't directed at only you, but for everyone it encompasses. But I don't understand the logic of some words carrying more offence than others. Words are just words
with respect, we should be allowed to use the word 's h i t' - we are mature people here
which can only be described as absolute childish CRAP,
This is just an example of what I mean. Both words mean the same thing yet one is accepted?
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like we have done with the "C" word?
This isn't directed at only you, but for everyone it encompasses. But I don't understand the logic of some words carrying more offence than others. Words are just words
Wish they were but they aren't. Having been on the end of some truly vile abuse when I was younger I can tell you that some words easily become more offensive
Without wanting to appear to having a go at you I ask you this:
are there certain words that you won't use or try not to use in front of say your mother, grandmother, parents, children or partner?
If your answer is "yes" then I ask you why if words are just words?
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like we have done with the "C" word?
This isn't directed at only you, but for everyone it encompasses. But I don't understand the logic of some words carrying more offence than others. Words are just words
Wish they were but they aren't. Having been on the end of some truly vile abuse when I was younger I can tell you that some words easily become more offensive
Without wanting to appear to having a go at you I ask you this:
are there certain words that you won't use or try not to use in front of say your mother, grandmother, parents, children or partner?
If your answer is "yes" then I ask you why if words are just words?
Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
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Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
You don't understand the logic, you don't have an issue with them but you don't use them in front of certain people because they are offensive to them.
A contradiction? Or just covering all bases
BTW ever asked why people they take offence?
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swear filters are so gay. we're all men here aren't we
I have to agree with the above.
What the hell has happened to this site over the last 18 months?
It used to be fun hear once and now it just turned into an over moderated Snip fest!
It's now a nanny forum full of whingers, dobbers and prudes! Nothing can be said in jest anymore without the kids removing it just incase it offends someone!
The place has slowly been brought to its knees by the whining
There was some good posters here once, the likes of Tiga, Coach Davey, Gerkin Greg, Rampstar among others were all good value and now we put up with the crap posted by Mrakov, tuckerbag and that Dookie guy......sheesh!!
Get it together mods or this site will be compleatly taken over by the prudes of this world ::)
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Agree.... place has become as dull, precious & humourless as....oh wait...criticising other forums is also verboten...
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swear filters are so gay. we're all men here aren't we
I have to agree with the above.
What the hell has happened to this site over the last 18 months?
It used to be fun hear once and now it just turned into an over moderated Snip fest!
It's now a nanny forum full of whingers, dobbers and prudes! Nothing can be said in jest anymore without the kids removing it just incase it offends someone!
The place has slowly been brought to its knees by the whining
There was some good posters here once, the likes of Tiga, Coach Davey, Gerkin Greg, Rampstar among others were all good value and now we put up with the crap posted by Mrakov, tuckerbag and that Dookie guy......sheesh!!
Get it together mods or this site will be compleatly taken over by the prudes of this world ::)
Some of those names still post here if you haven't noticed. And although I am male I have no idea who is and who isn't. Thus there maybe females or even younger types on here who want to come here for a discussion of football matters. We still all can have a laugh as many here are extremely clever and witty. I often visit for the laughs alone. However, there are certain lines that should not be crossed too. I don't think that is too unreasonable.
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What lines would they be Mr. Lay Moderator? Do tell...
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Creating a humourous account mocking the questionable antics of a self-confessed, serial troll?
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:lol
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Creating a humourous account mocking the questionable antics of a self-confessed, serial troll?
Yes it was funny but it continued incessantly. It didn't need to. And it clearly was upsetting a fellow poster. Yes, Bo does take a rather unique view of our recruiting team but hey, if that is what he thinks, it's his opinion. Whether you think he is trolling then that is your opinion. If you find it offensive, report him. I really don't care what he writes as it doesn't offend me at all. In fact he makes me laugh. We all send him up and he takes it well. But if you don't realise when you cross a line with continual mocking then you may find it difficult to understand people's feelings and how they can be hurt.
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Creating a humourous account mocking the questionable antics of a self-confessed, serial troll?
Yes it was funny but it continued incessantly. It didn't need to. And it clearly was upsetting a fellow poster. Yes, Bo does take a rather unique view of our recruiting team but hey, if that is what he thinks, it's his opinion. Whether you think he is trolling then that is your opinion. If you find it offensive, report him. I really don't care what he writes as it doesn't offend me at all. In fact he makes me laugh. We all send him up and he takes it well. But if you don't realise when you cross a line with continual mocking then you may find it difficult to understand people's feelings and how they can be hurt.
Without going into any detail - I know for a fact it's a troll....and no, I don't have much sympathy for a grown man in his 50's deliberately going out of his way to be a stuffing pork chop on the internet then taking it to heart, cracking the shytes and carrying on like an even bigger stuffing pork chop when he gets mocked for it...I might find it slightly pitiful but mainly I find it stuffing hilarious.....
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Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
You don't understand the logic, you don't have an issue with them but you don't use them in front of certain people because they are offensive to them.
A contradiction? Or just covering all bases
BTW ever asked why people they take offence?
Ah nice try but you are missing the point (or deflecting?). If they didn't take offence to them then I wouldn't have an issue using them as I don't have an issue hearing them. Your last sentence is pretty much what my original thought process was i.e. why do people take offence to them?
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Some of those names still post here if you haven't noticed.
Like who? Ramps was until recently but has since disappeared
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words are wind
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Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
You don't understand the logic, you don't have an issue with them but you don't use them in front of certain people because they are offensive to them.
A contradiction? Or just covering all bases
BTW ever asked why people they take offence?
I'll ask. Why do they take offence at swearing? You would have seen the comments on the reported posts so what are the particular reasons?
Some further questions:-
1) if children are accessing sites, is this not a matter for their parents to supervise or at least discuss with them first?
2) How does the swear filter and resulting content compare to the Code of practice for FTA television? Are the rules on the site regarding language more or less stringent?
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Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
You don't understand the logic, you don't have an issue with them but you don't use them in front of certain people because they are offensive to them.
A contradiction? Or just covering all bases
BTW ever asked why people they take offence?
Ah nice try but you are missing the point (or deflecting?). If they didn't take offence to them then I wouldn't have an issue using them as I don't have an issue hearing them. Your last sentence is pretty much what my original thought process was i.e. why do people take offence to them?
Not deflecting at all just trying to understand your point as it appears to me at least you are contradicting yourself
You say you have no problems with any words as they are just words but at the same time you admit to not using the same words in front of certain people because those people find it offensive.
If you don't care about the words then why do you make an any effort not to use them in certain circumstances, in front of certain people? It seems to be a contradiction
My other point was simply this, if you chose not use certain words in front certain people because they get offended have you ever asked them why they take offence?
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I'll ask. Why do they take offence at swearing? You would have seen the comments on the reported posts so what are the particular reasons?
Some further questions:-
1) if children are accessing sites, is this not a matter for their parents to supervise or at least discuss with them first?
2) How does the swear filter and resulting content compare to the Code of practice for FTA television? Are the rules on the site regarding language more or less stringent?
We have already said what happens behind the scences via PM discussion and reported posts will remain private, as they should. You have made a assumption that a lot of reported posts relate to swearing. This is not the case. Most reported posts relate to other posters trolling, bating and abusing other posters.
However, When a post is reported the system software converts any words the swear filter has changed back to its original form. So we are well aware of the language certain people are using. Rarely, are people suspended for the swearing in reported posts (exception the C word) but are suspended for the trolling, baiting, and abuse. These are the facts
Re your other questions
1) while I agree with your sentiment I would argue that it can't / doesn't happen all the time. Near impossible for parents of monitor their kids access all the time. Also, personally I reckon it is an easy out to say "it's up to a the parents". I come back to the same question why the need to swear, abuse? Surely adults can debate/argue/discuss things without needing to swear or abuse?
2) sorry not deflecting or avoiding but I really don't see the relevance to FTA laws and its code of practice requirements. Not comparing apples with apples.
When we set this site up we undertook a lot of research, got legal advice on a numbers of things and every thing we set up was to ensure this site was protected from any possible breaches. I still when required speak to my legal eagle and their advice to me remains the same, stick to what you've always done, don't open yourself to any grey and you're OK
Again I know people think it's funny, a joke and that we are over the top but its what we've been advised. So until we're told differently we keep doing what we do.
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Just to let you know it's working well lol
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Some of those names still post here if you haven't noticed.
Like who? Ramps was until recently but has since disappeared
Ramps is still here and others. I don't want to snitch. These posters often put forward strong points of view but they are entitled too. I really don't mind them at all and often it is good to have a debate just like we are having now. It would be pretty boring if we all agreed with each other. :thumbsup
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Because other people take offence to them. Me personally I don't see the issue with them.
You don't understand the logic, you don't have an issue with them but you don't use them in front of certain people because they are offensive to them.
A contradiction? Or just covering all bases
BTW ever asked why people they take offence?
Ah nice try but you are missing the point (or deflecting?). If they didn't take offence to them then I wouldn't have an issue using them as I don't have an issue hearing them. Your last sentence is pretty much what my original thought process was i.e. why do people take offence to them?
Not deflecting at all just trying to understand your point as it appears to me at least you are contradicting yourself
You say you have no problems with any words as they are just words but at the same time you admit to not using the same words in front of certain people because those people find it offensive.
If you don't care about the words then why do you make an any effort not to use them in certain circumstances, in front of certain people? It seems to be a contradiction
My other point was simply this, if you chose not use certain words in front certain people because they get offended have you ever asked them why they take offence?
:banghead :banghead It's called respect, I don't use them because THEY don't like them. I personally have no issue with them. I'm sure there a plenty of things you have no issue with but choose not to do it because you know a certain person doesn't like it.
No I have never specifically asked because I'm not going to ask every bum in the street why they hate the word "C" but not "F" or why they think poo is not okay but then crap is. Which just circles back to my main point "I don't understand the logic of some words carrying more offence than others. Words are just words"
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It's called respect
And that is it in a nutshell
It is all about respect
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It's called respect
And that is it in a nutshell
It is all about respect
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Nice twisting, still doesn't explain why people even care
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It's called respect
And that is it in a nutshell
It is all about respect
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Nice twisting, still doesn't explain why people even care
Not twisting anything, you've explained why people care...you've answered it ..Respect
I have my own reasons why I care, why I get offended by certain words just like others would/do.
Said previously been on the end of some incredibly vile verbal abuse when I was younger. Witnessed others cop the same, stepped in to help and copped it as well not necessarily verbally
Let's just say It impacts...
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with respect, we should be allowed to use the word 's h i t' - we are mature people here
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Nope. Sunday best and 1955
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I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
My personal view on the disappearance of the elusive female poster is that with the amount of whining and whingeing kids on this site banging on about the same crap day in and day out is that they think why bother looking at a forum when they can get that same stuffing poo at home.
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I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
My personal view on the disappearance of the elusive female poster is that with the amount of whining and whingeing kids on this site banging on about the same crap day in and day out is that they think why bother looking at a forum when they can get that same stuffing poo at home.
Whoa whoa whoa.....hang on. When the mods bang on about 'the number' of female poster(s) who have left, is this number actually only 'one'?
LMFAO
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I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
My personal view on the disappearance of the elusive female poster is that with the amount of whining and whingeing kids on this site banging on about the same crap day in and day out is that they think why bother looking at a forum when they can get that same stuffing poo at home.
Whoa whoa whoa.....hang on. When the mods bang on about 'the number' of female poster(s) who have left, is this number actually only 'one'?
LMFAO
Well good question Dooks and to throw one back at you, are we talking about the female posters with female genitalia or the posters that act like females but have the male genitalia allegedly?
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So many questions.....
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I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
My personal view on the disappearance of the elusive female poster is that with the amount of whining and whingeing kids on this site banging on about the same crap day in and day out is that they think why bother looking at a forum when they can get that same stuffing poo at home.
Whoa whoa whoa.....hang on. When the mods bang on about 'the number' of female poster(s) who have left, is this number actually only 'one'?
LMFAO
You may mock but we've lost at least half-a-dozen former long-term and regular female posters over the past few years.
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I know some on here will say big deal but the number of female posters who have stopped posting over the last few years has been a concern. The intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit
My personal view on the disappearance of the elusive female poster is that with the amount of whining and whingeing kids on this site banging on about the same crap day in and day out is that they think why bother looking at a forum when they can get that same stuffing poo at home.
Whoa whoa whoa.....hang on. When the mods bang on about 'the number' of female poster(s) who have left, is this number actually only 'one'?
LMFAO
You may mock but we've lost at least half-a-dozen former long-term and regular female posters over the past few years.
No mocking, just superficial jest. The point is, that it was never really quantified and in itself is an issue. For example, can I ask for clarification for the site members who have remained loyal and since joined as to why the loss 6 or so former female posters is used as a key reason for the current swear filter?
I ask in the context of the 1870 current site members. 6 out of 1870. It has been explained that they didn't like language etc, but why is the weighting Of such a fraction of a minority held in such high regards and is it for any other reason that they happen to be female? I would have though through normal attrition that the loss of 6 posters of any gender for such specific reasons is a natural attrition rate on any forum.
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Was going to mention that it seems strange to use the loss of half-a-dozen females as excuses but no mention of the amount of males lost on this forum? A lot of good long term posters are gone for various reasons but no inquiry as to why? I know some seem a little put off by the apparent preference to certain groups within this forum
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Is one of the six Phil?
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that ol slapper probably got pregnant, moved in with the future father and discovered there in no internet under the westgate
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:lol
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No mocking, just superficial jest. The point is, that it was never really quantified and in itself is an issue. For example, can I ask for clarification for the site members who have remained loyal and since joined as to why the loss 6 or so former female posters is used as a key reason for the current swear filter?
I ask in the context of the 1870 current site members. 6 out of 1870. It has been explained that they didn't like language etc, but why is the weighting Of such a fraction of a minority held in such high regards and is it for any other reason that they happen to be female? I would have though through normal attrition that the loss of 6 posters of any gender for such specific reasons is a natural attrition rate on any forum.
The swear filter has been in place since OER started way back in 2004. We have in recent times strongly enforced the barring of the C-word with an 48-hr suspension as a few people had/have continually resorted to using variations of it in their posts, including deliberately mis-spelling it, to avoid the swear filter. Aside from that there's been little change in 11 years to the swear filter.
If it was simply down to natural attrition, it would be offset by some new female posters joining which isn't happening. Six posters may not seem a lot but they were formerly regular posters here and when a whole gender virtually stops posting, in what was a short period of time, then it's a concern. As WP stated, "the intended or not derogatory/disparaging/sexist comments about women posted by some on here are highly offensive. At least the swear filter tones it down a bit. Not enough but a bit".
Was going to mention that it seems strange to use the loss of half-a-dozen females as excuses but no mention of the amount of males lost on this forum? A lot of good long term posters are gone for various reasons but no inquiry as to why? I know some seem a little put off by the apparent preference to certain groups within this forum
We've acknowledged numerous times previously that we've lost a number of good posters which obviously includes a number of very good male posters as well. A number of them got turned off continually wading through multiple ruined footy threads filled with childish crap & smut, abuse, sniping, baiting, etc and the inevitable responses and retaliation that would go on for page after page that had nothing to do with the thread topic. It was one of the main reasons why we brought in the 3-strikes policy to try and restore some balance. After all, as WP also stated, we have a responsibility to make this forum a place where everyone feels welcome.
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FFS can one of you flog monkeys with nothing better to do start up a new account under a females name so the mods stop going on about it.
Maybe a user name of Peggy or Meagan would be good
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We have Penelope, she's a good sport. Seen her do some things that most others of her gender would be too afraid to!!
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We have Penelope, she's a good sport. Seen her do some things that most others of her gender would be too afraid to!!
Oh Yeh I forgot about her
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lmao
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We have Penelope, she's a good sport. Seen her do some things that most others of her gender would be too afraid to!!
She the one that was at the music festival?
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I may not agree with what u have to say... But i will give my life, to defend your right to say it...
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We have Penelope, she's a good sport. Seen her do some things that most others of her gender would be too afraid to!!
Oh Yeh I forgot about her
Damn fine woman that Penelope..... :shh
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Have you ever considered putting a limit on posts? Whether that be a certain amount within a day, hour, minute whatever it may be
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Nah man..no limit on posts..lets all aspire to civility
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Have you ever considered putting a limit on posts? Whether that be a certain amount within a day, hour, minute whatever it may be
No
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..but I guess that's none of my business :whistle
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..
You are correct it is a point we have made time and time again over the last few years.
Which interestingly we've been been ridiculed about, copped abuse about, not to mention the endless comments about how unfair everything is and how people continually pot other posters about it
It's why we bought in the 3 strikes policy, had the poll about what people wanted in regards to penalties.
Even more interesting though is the apparent double standards by poster who complain about the baiting and trolling et al but then seem to repeatedly do it themselves.
Issue a strike and they make accusations that they are being treated unfairly, being victimised
Interesting indeed
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Hmmmmm fascinating
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..
You are correct it is a point we have made time and time again over the last few years.
Which interestingly we've been been ridiculed about, copped abuse about, not to mention the endless comments about how unfair everything is and how people continually pot other posters about it
It's why we bought in the 3 strikes policy, had the poll about what people wanted in regards to penalties.
Even more interesting though is the apparent double standards by poster who complain about the baiting and trolling et al but then seem to repeatedly do it themselves.
Issue a strike and they make accusations that they are being treated unfairly, being victimised
Interesting indeed
Well if you going to hand out strikes based on that definitive and overwhelming 15-14 poll result, people at least want those rules consistently applied.....and not just fobbed of with "use the report button" ...seems to me you only get done if you upset the sooks , laggers & precious prudes with itchy trigger fingers...seems to me if you're glib & bait & troll (and spam) constantly and obviously(and some cases even admit you do) but don't bother the serial dobbers and "self-appointed moderators" (or are one yourself) or, more's the point, also have opinions they happen to agree with, then you're seemingly immune from any consequences... some of us have more than a sneaking suspiscion the report button is being used by certain posters to settle personal scores and gag posters they don't like more than anything else... basically the sort of crap that's destroyed other Richmond forums and turned them into monotonous, one-sided jokes....
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..
You are correct it is a point we have made time and time again over the last few years.
Which interestingly we've been been ridiculed about, copped abuse about, not to mention the endless comments about how unfair everything is and how people continually pot other posters about it
It's why we bought in the 3 strikes policy, had the poll about what people wanted in regards to penalties.
Even more interesting though is the apparent double standards by poster who complain about the baiting and trolling et al but then seem to repeatedly do it themselves.
Issue a strike and they make accusations that they are being treated unfairly, being victimised
Interesting indeed
It's less to do with the content posted (which is an important factor) but more of the issue of sheer quantity. I mean, you'd think some people would understand there point has been made
Also, don't you think a limit on posts would take a bit of the "unfairness" out of it. If you look at what Dio said, whether right or wrong, there is always going to be conjecture when you leave something up to someones decision with no obvious criteria as there is always going to be bias.
I'm not saying it'd work, I'm not saying it has to be such a tight number, but I am a little surprised you or OE haven't even thought about it
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I reckon you two have just copped a handful of reports each.
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I reckon you two have just copped a handful of reports each.
Reported. No need for that Chucky
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I reckon you two have just copped a handful of reports each.
Reported. No need for that Chucky
Well I just reported you back, so there.
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Reported this whole forum to Caroline Wilson.
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..
You are correct it is a point we have made time and time again over the last few years.
Which interestingly we've been been ridiculed about, copped abuse about, not to mention the endless comments about how unfair everything is and how people continually pot other posters about it
It's why we bought in the 3 strikes policy, had the poll about what people wanted in regards to penalties.
Even more interesting though is the apparent double standards by poster who complain about the baiting and trolling et al but then seem to repeatedly do it themselves.
Issue a strike and they make accusations that they are being treated unfairly, being victimised
Interesting indeed
Well if you going to hand out strikes based on that definitive and overwhelming 15-14 poll result, people at least want those rules consistently applied.....and not just fobbed of with "use the report button" ...seems to me you only get done if you upset the sooks , laggers & precious prudes with itchy trigger fingers...seems to me if you're glib & bait & troll (and spam) constantly and obviously(and some cases even admit you do) but don't bother the serial dobbers and "self-appointed moderators" (or are one yourself) or, more's the point, also have opinions they happen to agree with, then you're seemingly immune from any consequences... some of us have more than a sneaking suspiscion the report button is being used by certain posters to settle personal scores and gag posters they don't like more than anything else... basically the sort of crap that's destroyed other Richmond forums and turned them into monotonous, one-sided jokes....
This is my perception of the way things are and, are understood to be by many others.
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Interesting. Reckon certain posters incessant posting of no substance is a solid reason why the forum has lost some members..
You are correct it is a point we have made time and time again over the last few years.
Which interestingly we've been been ridiculed about, copped abuse about, not to mention the endless comments about how unfair everything is and how people continually pot other posters about it
It's why we bought in the 3 strikes policy, had the poll about what people wanted in regards to penalties.
Even more interesting though is the apparent double standards by poster who complain about the baiting and trolling et al but then seem to repeatedly do it themselves.
Issue a strike and they make accusations that they are being treated unfairly, being victimised
Interesting indeed
Me?
No hard feelings old bean
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stuffusima
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Shima is a poo bloke and can get stuffed.