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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 🏅Dooks on October 05, 2015, 09:01:47 AM
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As per the thread title, assuming we only draft say Yarran as our big fish :banghead
Will we improve our position on the ladder and/or win a final, hold steady or slide backwards?
Have we maxed out? Will other teams go past us?
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
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come on dooks we all know the answer to this. Same personnel on and off the field :banghead :banghead, same coach for another few years.
next year will be another year where everyone will rub themselves from rounds 1-22 up only to fail on the big stage
This team like Claw says is a 6-10 side. FFS we cant even win a final and till that changes the club will just keep going sideways, especially if we continue to let the same players make the same mistakes year in year out, without holding them to account and sending them back to the VFL.
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9th because that is where boring clubs finish
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
The other clubs ranked 1st to 12th have players likes elton and castagna too
Won't be enough
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Yarran brownlow, Gordon Coleman, Morris Norm Smith is how 2016 will pan out.
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Chaplin reverse Coleman winner
Grigg taggr of the season - all australian
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
if ur thinking the above will help us out mate then were in for a long year McKenzie rpobbaly another 2-3 years away like mcbean has been Elton please signed for another 2 years with no real afl time wtf ... ellis will be the key with his run and that's it and yah have to be honest... like u said depends on the trades etc ud expected cats to come back into the 8 and port will get a nice draw will push hard for the 8... for us we need to get some ready made quality players to the club not average players
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
if ur thinking the above will help us out mate then were in for a long year McKenzie rpobbaly another 2-3 years away like mcbean has been Elton please signed for another 2 years with no real afl time wtf ... ellis will be the key with his run and that's it and yah have to be honest... like u said depends on the trades etc ud expected cats to come back into the 8 and port will get a nice draw will push hard for the 8... for us we need to get some ready made quality players to the club not average players
Agree but all we have is Yarran coming sooooo....
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
if ur thinking the above will help us out mate then were in for a long year McKenzie rpobbaly another 2-3 years away like mcbean has been Elton please signed for another 2 years with no real afl time wtf ... ellis will be the key with his run and that's it and yah have to be honest... like u said depends on the trades etc ud expected cats to come back into the 8 and port will get a nice draw will push hard for the 8... for us we need to get some ready made quality players to the club not average players
I've got hopes for Butler too..... :pray
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
if ur thinking the above will help us out mate then were in for a long year McKenzie rpobbaly another 2-3 years away like mcbean has been Elton please signed for another 2 years with no real afl time wtf ... ellis will be the key with his run and that's it and yah have to be honest... like u said depends on the trades etc ud expected cats to come back into the 8 and port will get a nice draw will push hard for the 8... for us we need to get some ready made quality players to the club not average players
I've got hopes for Butler too..... :pray
Every team has random obscure kid they hope will improve
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
The bookies?
Why not sit out the trade periods then if it te whims of the gods
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I think it depends a lot on how other clubs recruit/trade/acquire players through FA.
If C Ellis comes along more, McBean, Elton, McKenzie and Castagna all improve we could in theory move along very nicely. But if they don't and we only pick up Yarran then I cant really see us improving on this year in a big way.
if ur thinking the above will help us out mate then were in for a long year McKenzie rpobbaly another 2-3 years away like mcbean has been Elton please signed for another 2 years with no real afl time wtf ... ellis will be the key with his run and that's it and yah have to be honest... like u said depends on the trades etc ud expected cats to come back into the 8 and port will get a nice draw will push hard for the 8... for us we need to get some ready made quality players to the club not average players
I've got hopes for Butler too..... :pray
Every team has random obscure kid they hope will improve
Will be the pick of the crop. :shh
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
That logic won't suit some posters :shh
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We will be much the same as this year unless players like Lennon, C Ellis and McBean take big leaps forward. Have a good run with injuries and win a few close ones and we could push top 4. Have a couple of our better players go down and a few things go against us and we could finish as low as 12th I'd have thought.
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Wherever we finish Melbourne will finish above us
FACT
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
12 mths ago most were talking about the top 8 and perhaps top 4 gotta love revisionism.
Too many holes in the list with a lack of quality and genuine depth rules out top 4 even with a decent trade period imo.
Top 8 will again heavily depend on our injury run and what improvement we can eke out of the likes of C Ellis, Menadue, Butler, Vlastuin, Lennon, McKenzie, McIntosh, McBean Possibly even Elton.
There are so many clubs in and around each other a worst case scenario could well be bottom 4 or 6.
Imo there is not a lot of improvement left in our top 16 odd players. So if all we do is get say Yarran who will do nothing to address list needs then again any improvement we get will have to come from within and the nd.
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this all depends on if we can keep Deledio on the park
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
12 mths ago most were talking about the top 8 and perhaps top 4 gotta love revisionism.
Too many holes in the list with a lack of quality and genuine depth rules out top 4 even with a decent trade period imo.
Top 8 will again heavily depend on our injury run and what improvement we can eke out of the likes of C Ellis, Menadue, Butler, Vlastuin, Lennon, McKenzie, McIntosh, McBean Possibly even Elton.
There are so many clubs in and around each other a worst case scenario could well be bottom 4 or 6.
Imo there is not a lot of improvement left in our top 16 odd players. So if all we do is get say Yarran who will do nothing to address list needs then again any improvement we get will have to come from within and the nd.
You have predicted a bottom 4 finish the past two years
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12 mths ago most were talking about the top 8 and perhaps top 4 gotta love revisionism.
So roughly what happened. Made top 8 and were a genuine chance of top 4 but fluffed it. Would say that's pretty spot on
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
:lol
If we hear Chaplin and Grigg have been stabbed, I'd want to know the whereabouts of Stalin at the time of the stabbings. ;D
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- The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
Some reasons to ponder:
Shyte apparent trade options
Shyte ruck department
Lack of pace
Shyte Kp defenders
Shyte older players on list
Short a tager
Short a few inside mid options
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12 months ago many experts thought we would struggle to hold our spot in the 8 - but we came very close to making top 4.
Teams like Port added a big fish like Ryder and their year was a friggen disaster.
West Coast finish 9th and then go into the following grand final as favourites - without recruiting a big fish.
Who the @#$& knows.
12 mths ago most were talking about the top 8 and perhaps top 4 gotta love revisionism.
Too many holes in the list with a lack of quality and genuine depth rules out top 4 even with a decent trade period imo.
Top 8 will again heavily depend on our injury run and what improvement we can eke out of the likes of C Ellis, Menadue, Butler, Vlastuin, Lennon, McKenzie, McIntosh, McBean Possibly even Elton.
There are so many clubs in and around each other a worst case scenario could well be bottom 4 or 6.
Imo there is not a lot of improvement left in our top 16 odd players. So if all we do is get say Yarran who will do nothing to address list needs then again any improvement we get will have to come from within and the nd.
You have predicted a bottom 4 finish the past two years
lol, and that we were behind melbourne is the scheme of things
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
Some reasons to ponder:
Shyte apparent trade options
Shyte ruck department
Lack of pace
Shyte Kp defenders
Shyte older players on list
Short a tager
Short a few inside mid options
Trade options has nothing to do with how we will fare next season.
Ruck we arn't strong, I'll admit.
Tigers have plenty of run, don't know where you've pulled lack of pace from?
Chaplin the only "shyte" older player. Still serviceable imo.
Short a tagger, yes.
Short 1 inside mid. Would only have to be a b grader imo. Flossy can step up with Yarran on the half back?
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
Some reasons to ponder:
Shyte apparent trade options
Shyte ruck department
Lack of pace
Shyte Kp defenders
Shyte older players on list
Short a tager
Short a few inside mid options
Trade options has nothing to do with how we will fare next season.
Ruck we arn't strong, I'll admit.
Tigers have plenty of run, don't know where you've pulled lack of pace from?
Chaplin the only "shyte" older player. Still serviceable imo.
Short a tagger, yes.
Short 1 inside mid. Would only have to be a b grader imo. Flossy can step up with Yarran on the half back?
what ?
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Wherever we finish Melbourne will finish above us
FACT
yesssssss :clapping not only a wise guy but a prophet too :shh
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So if we win the flag will Melbourne win some kind of special deluxe edition flag?
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The type of thread you see for a club like RIchmond.
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What about 2017 then? A good year a bad or just indifferent
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My Bulgarian mate reckons we're gonna smash it.
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3/0/75 is a commitments to winning three flags by 2020,
So I'd say it's a fail
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My Bulgarian mate reckons we're gonna smash it.
He is a top bloke I hear, how is the wrestling going
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My word, the negativity in this thread!
I see no reason to expect less than a top 8 finish. We had a pretty flush second half of the year, saw some improvement out of guys we need improvement from in Lennon, Vickery and Vlastuin. Couldn't get Conca on the park, and he's in our top 10-15 bracket IMO which always helps. With more of C Ellis on the park hopefully this year I'm sufficiently optimistic.
If all we get is Yarran this off season, well, I might have hoped for more, but I still think if we get him right its a big in.
But, like the upcoming season of Game of Thrones, we'll just have to patiently wait it out for next season and hope our favourite characters don't get stabbed before the end....
Except for the ten teams above us that R better than Us, I can't think of any reasons why they wouldn't make the eight either.
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hardwick will be sacked this time next year, waste of a year of crucial development as he tries to load up this off season
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most likely 13 -18 rather than the 7 - 14 i have usually thought. So yes no longer a middling club but a bottom dweller.
Of course we have a trade period and nd to go thru so we may get lucky.
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most likely 13 -18 rather than the 7 - 14 i have usually thought. So yes no longer a middling club but a bottom dweller.
Of course we have a trade period and nd to go thru so we may get lucky.
The brains trust will be happy with the following filling key roles again -
Hampson
Grigg
Bellis
Houli
Tyrone
Thank god injury got Chaplin