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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 07, 2015, 07:31:18 PM
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Leuenberger to end up at Geelong if he leaves Brisbane according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 tonight. Geelong also keen on Bellchambers.
Carey said Collingwood is the latest club after Dangerfield. Ling chipped in and said "I thought Treloar to Collingwood was a done deal?".
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Get two of lburget, trelor, danger :pray
Locked and loaded ,
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The problem with Leuenberger is he's injury prone and regularly misses large chunks of footy every year.
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Leuenberger to end up at Geelong if he leaves Brisbane according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 tonight. Geelong also keen on Bellchambers.
Carey said Collingwood is the latest club after Dangerfield. Ling chipped in and said "I thought Treloar to Collingwood was a done deal?".
During the week 7 news had Leuenberger to Essendon as a near certainty. Seems they only know as much as us plebs on Internet forums.
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The problem with Leuenberger is he's injury prone and regularly misses large chunks of footy every year.
I'd still take him
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The problem with Leuenberger is he's injury prone and regularly misses large chunks of footy every year.
Like Maric, Hampson and friends in previous years
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Rumours we're into the following players :-
Fleetwood
Nicks
Buckingham
McVie, J.
McVie, C.
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more apparent tonight we need another good forward after Riewoldt's effort. Hope we are into Schulz or Dixon or any big lad out there who can play
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more apparent tonight we need another good forward after Riewoldt's effort. Hope we are into Schulz or Dixon or any big lad out there who can play
You seem to have a crush on Schulz...reminds me of someone
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According to Barrett, Stefan Martin wants to return to Victoria for personal reasons. Dogs and Bombers leading the interest from Victorian clubs.
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more apparent tonight we need another good forward after Riewoldt's effort. Hope we are into Schulz or Dixon or any big lad out there who can play
You seem to have a crush on Schulz...reminds me of someone
I thought Coach was the baddest.... :shh
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Bombers have no hope.
They'd be interested in anyone who thought they were a footballer atm.
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Stefan Marton would be good get for the right price
Mobile ruckman who can play forward. Better than Hampson
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Kreuzer f.a. would be better.
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Rumor is Hampson wants out. Has requested a trade or will retire if he can't be traded.
Just saying :shh
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Kreuzer f.a. would be better.
Kreuzer won't leaving the Blues
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Still hasn't re-signed...best mate Cotchin is in his ear... :shh
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Rumor is Hampson wants out. Has requested a trade or will retire if he can't be traded.
Just saying :shh
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Still hasn't re-signed...best mate Cotchin is in his ear... :shh
Seriously? Would be pretty good, wouldnt he :thumbsup :snidegrin
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Still hasn't re-signed...best mate Cotchin is in his ear... :shh
Seriously? Would be pretty good, wouldnt he :thumbsup :snidegrin
I'll hold my judgement until I hear what big note says
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Rumor is Hampson wants out. Has requested a trade or will retire if he can't be traded.
Just saying :shh
Very much a rumour lol
Can tell you it ain't true
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Still hasn't re-signed...best mate Cotchin is in his ear... :shh
Seriously? Would be pretty good, wouldnt he :thumbsup :snidegrin
I'll hold my judgement until I hear what big note says
:lol
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Rumor is Hampson wants out. Has requested a trade or will retire if he can't be traded.
Just saying :shh
:cheers
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Rumor is Hampson wants out. Has requested a trade or will retire if he can't be traded.
Just saying :shh
Very much a rumour lol
Can tell you it ain't true
suddenly this rumor has a bit of substance
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:snidegrin
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20 Bombers out of contract and in limbo according to AFL website ...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-19/essendons-20-out-of-contract-players-and-their-futures
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I think that club is going to struggle to attract a decent coach. Terry Wallace with a 9 year plan maybe
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ESSENDON is confident of keeping Jake Carlisle despite three remarkable outbursts in the past three weeks from the disenchanted key forward.
Carlisle vented his frustration in Round 18 against the Western Bulldogs, against Greater Western Sydney the next week when he was rotated to the bench and again on the field towards opponents on Saturday against Adelaide.
Clearly frustrated with the club leading up to this week’s move on James Hird, Carlisle let rip against the Giants.
After he walked through the interchange lines, Carlisle screamed: “This club is f---ed.’’
The outburst was heard by club officials on the bench and fans sitting in the rows closest to the interchange area.
Bombers officials have confirmed to the Herald Sun the comment was made, but one said it was taken out of context and that Carlisle was frustrated and trying to motivate his teammates.
The other two outbursts came in play.
TRADE TALK: PIES HOPE SCHARENBERG WILL STAY
Against the Dogs at Etihad Stadium, a match the Bombers lost by 87 points, Carlisle told at least one Bulldogs forward that he was counting down the matches before leaving at the end of the season.
The third spray occurred in Saturday’s loss to the Crows.
Carlisle’s teammate have been told of a conversation between Carlisle and Crows forwards, where Carlisle went even further and said he didn’t care about the result because he would not be at the club next year.
The conversation made its way to other Crows players who then told Essendon players what was said.
Jake Carlisle expresses his frustration during Essendon’s loss to Geelong in Round 10.
Jake Carlisle expresses his frustration during Essendon’s loss to Geelong in Round 10. Source: Getty Images
The temperamental forward, 23, is out of contract at the end of the season and his manager, Anthony McConville, confirmed at the weekend contract talks are on hold until then.
Carlisle had a good relationship with Hird, despite Hird playing him as a forward when Carlisle wanted to be a defender. How Hird’s departure on Tuesday will affect his future is unclear.
But one Bombers source said: “Don’t be surprised if Carlisle stays.”
The Herald Sun reported this week Carlisle is being inundated by offers from club including Carlton.
The Western Bulldogs are said to be wary of Carlisle’s price tag and inconsistent attitude.
Jake Carlisle watches James Hird’s farewell press conference on Tuesday. Picture: Wayne L
Jake Carlisle watches James Hird’s farewell press conference on Tuesday. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Source: News Corp Australia
McConville was adamant Carlisle had not met with or agreed to terms with a rival club.
The Bombers would be certain to receive a first-round pick for Carlisle and depending on the quality of that pick, could ask for a future pick as well as part of the deal.
Free agents Tom Bellchambers and Courtenay Dempsey are yet to sign, Dustin Fletcher, Jason Winderlich and Paul Chapman will retire and Tayte Pears and Elliott Kavanagh face uncertain futures.
Former Bombers coach Mark Thompson said of Carlisle in June: “I would think you would try and keep him, but you wouldn’t pay over the odds for him.’’
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/this-club-is-f-ed-jake-carlisles-remarkable-outburst-during-essendons-loss-to-gws/story-fnp04d70-1227490469179
Guys a nutcase but I think we need one
#getcarlisle
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Sorry had no clue as I'm not a subscriber and just read the whole article :lol Must of opened it like peggles said.
Nevertheless check the edit for a copy and paste for you (if you can be bothered reading the mess I couldn't be bothered fixing up)
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change the URL from heraldsun.com.au to news.com.au and you will get access to the same article free
:thumbsup :cheers
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change the URL from heraldsun.com.au to news.com.au and you will get access to the same article free
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Did it work?
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certainly did. had a few links do the same previously so now i know the back door in.
watch out smokey......
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certainly did. had a few links do the same previously so now i know the back door in.
watch out smokey......
The only way to get in :thumbsup
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ESSENDON is confident of keeping Jake Carlisle despite three remarkable outbursts in the past three weeks from the disenchanted key forward.
Carlisle vented his frustration in Round 18 against the Western Bulldogs, against Greater Western Sydney the next week when he was rotated to the bench and again on the field towards opponents on Saturday against Adelaide.
Clearly frustrated with the club leading up to this week’s move on James Hird, Carlisle let rip against the Giants.
After he walked through the interchange lines, Carlisle screamed: “This club is f---ed.’’
The outburst was heard by club officials on the bench and fans sitting in the rows closest to the interchange area.
Bombers officials have confirmed to the Herald Sun the comment was made, but one said it was taken out of context and that Carlisle was frustrated and trying to motivate his teammates.
The other two outbursts came in play.
TRADE TALK: PIES HOPE SCHARENBERG WILL STAY
Against the Dogs at Etihad Stadium, a match the Bombers lost by 87 points, Carlisle told at least one Bulldogs forward that he was counting down the matches before leaving at the end of the season.
The third spray occurred in Saturday’s loss to the Crows.
Carlisle’s teammate have been told of a conversation between Carlisle and Crows forwards, where Carlisle went even further and said he didn’t care about the result because he would not be at the club next year.
The conversation made its way to other Crows players who then told Essendon players what was said.
Jake Carlisle expresses his frustration during Essendon’s loss to Geelong in Round 10.
Jake Carlisle expresses his frustration during Essendon’s loss to Geelong in Round 10. Source: Getty Images
The temperamental forward, 23, is out of contract at the end of the season and his manager, Anthony McConville, confirmed at the weekend contract talks are on hold until then.
Carlisle had a good relationship with Hird, despite Hird playing him as a forward when Carlisle wanted to be a defender. How Hird’s departure on Tuesday will affect his future is unclear.
But one Bombers source said: “Don’t be surprised if Carlisle stays.”
The Herald Sun reported this week Carlisle is being inundated by offers from club including Carlton.
The Western Bulldogs are said to be wary of Carlisle’s price tag and inconsistent attitude.
Jake Carlisle watches James Hird’s farewell press conference on Tuesday. Picture: Wayne L
Jake Carlisle watches James Hird’s farewell press conference on Tuesday. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Source: News Corp Australia
McConville was adamant Carlisle had not met with or agreed to terms with a rival club.
The Bombers would be certain to receive a first-round pick for Carlisle and depending on the quality of that pick, could ask for a future pick as well as part of the deal.
Free agents Tom Bellchambers and Courtenay Dempsey are yet to sign, Dustin Fletcher, Jason Winderlich and Paul Chapman will retire and Tayte Pears and Elliott Kavanagh face uncertain futures.
Former Bombers coach Mark Thompson said of Carlisle in June: “I would think you would try and keep him, but you wouldn’t pay over the odds for him.’’
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/this-club-is-f-ed-jake-carlisles-remarkable-outburst-during-essendons-loss-to-gws/story-fnp04d70-1227490469179
Guys a nutcase but I think we need one
#getcarlisle
But we already have Chaplin
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Lachlie Henderson has walked out of Carlton and requested a trade to Geelong.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-20/henderson-requests-a-trade-wont-play-again-this-year
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Jon Ralph said Dangerfield is a 90% chance of ending up at Geelong; 6% staying at Adelaide and 4% ending up at Hawthorn.
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I think our premiership top up tilt would include Blicavs and Heppell and maybe Yarran
Can we get a deal there? a pity Newy has retired, would have been attractive trade bait.!!
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Yarran is the only on there we could get.
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Yarran is the only on there we could get.
What's your opinion of him Petey?
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I want to know how geelong can afford these players Hawkins has signed on mega bucks they want Henderson be on at least 400K, dangerfireld 750K, the other selwood 400K, Clarke last year would have come over on 400K....
Carilse had ne good game this year and it was against us funny enough I rmeber hardwick saying hed love him at the club we maybe a smooky there.
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Jed Adcock told by Brisbane he's no longer required.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-20/lions-part-ways-with-former-skipper-jed-adcock
Barrett tonight said Leuenberger has also been told he'll be traded. Apparently, a number of Lion players aren't happy with the direction Brisbane under Leppa is heading.
Barrett also still claiming Stefan Martin is looking to return to Victoria despite reports he's about to sign a long-term 5-year deal to stay at Brisbane.
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Gee the Lions are back the Bad news Bears days. Bring back Gastev and Ishenko.
Back to the tiggers, I would like Henderson, he can play if you stroke his ego enough. Either down back or up forward.
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Adcock is the sort of player we should target for our VFL team. For our VFL team to competitive we need to strengthen our VFL list
Players like Jed are what we should be looking at IMHO
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Adcock is the sort of player we should target for our VFL team. For our VFL team to competitive we need to strengthen our VFL list
Players like Jed are what we should be looking at IMHO
He must be 30 by now??
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Passed it. Reddan would be worth it
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Adcock is the sort of player we should target for our VFL team. For our VFL team to competitive we need to strengthen our VFL list
Players like Jed are what we should be looking at IMHO
He must be 30 by now??
29
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Passed it. Reddan would be worth it
Read my post, I said Adcock would be perfect for our VFL side
Too old for our AFL list
But is exactly what we should be targeting for our VFL list; experienced ex AFL players
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Tom Rockliff gave Barrett a massive spray on twitter ;D.
Why doesn't Barrett have the balls to call me and chat instead of making s*** up? @DayneZorko and I are very close @AFLFootyShow junk report
https://twitter.com/rockwiz38
Anyway, Barrett was on again just now:
Hawthorn are the latest club to join the interest in Harley Bennell. Bennell is still contracted to the Suns for 2016-17.
Carlton's Matty Kreuzer also has a few offers on the table from opposition clubs.
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I wouldnt touch Kreuzer, he is a walking injury. His body cant hack AFL or his fitness and medical people have been crap. I suspect a bit of both still I wouldnt waste a third rnd pick on him
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what was the spray at barrett in relation too?
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what was the spray at barrett in relation too?
Barrett said his leadership is causing concern amongst teammates :thumbsup
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cheers big ears
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:)
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I think bennel is better to chase tham yarran, he can stay with Dusty
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what was the spray at barrett in relation too?
Barrett said his leadership is causing concern amongst teammates :thumbsup
Somethings going wrong at the Bears. Leppas had his work cut out for him since day one. Time to roll over the list me thinks.
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I wouldnt touch Kreuzer, he is a walking injury. His body cant hack AFL or his fitness and medical people have been crap. I suspect a bit of both still I wouldnt waste a third rnd pick on him
i would as:
It would make cotch happy
i think Kreuzer ceiling is high. (Still) and his best is good. As proven by three vote game vs. Richmond once.
our ruck stocks are not strong
griffiths / tyrone shown more value as forwards probably. Mcbean too valuable
Lburger or Kreuzer would be worth a risk for mine
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:lol
thank stuff you dont have a say in list management
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:lol
thank stuff you dont have a say in list management
You would choose, to not acquire a mature ruckman, in the coming trade/FA period?
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ya gotta look at kruz seiusly
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i wouldnt pick one based on the idea it would make a current player happy or on one game , the later criteria hamspon filled, i do believe?
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The captain. Not drummond or menadue
Kreuzer has had more than one good game vs. Richmond from memory. Yarren definitely has.
He is a footballer first and plays like an extra mid. Anti-Hampson.
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who gives a stuff if it is the captain or the water boy, it is no consideration for recruiting someone.
noones denying that kruezer has had more that one good game, you just stated one good game against richmond as proof he can play.
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who gives a stuff if it is the captain or the water boy, it is no consideration for recruiting someone.
noones denying that kruezer has had more that one good game, you just stated one good game against richmond as proof he can play.
it is.
I watched the quarter he went nuts from about 30 yardd away
very impressive unit bar the acne
will his body hold up? Thats a different question. Him being best mates with our lord and king trent cotchin is a nice bonus. Not the primary reasoning
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just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?
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just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?
#1 draft pick
drafted before cotchin
I have a long list of reasons, as to why i think Kreuzer is an above satisfactory standard. And possibly a solid addition, which would be a significant upgrade to our primary list. Specific to one area which is not our strongest department
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Kreuz can play, but you wouldn't get him for nothing and you would only get 6-12 games a year out of him on avg for the rest of his career, its not enough. For a 5th round pick cheap ruckman maybe, but you'd have to give up a 2nd or 1st rounder. Its seems bad maths to me.
Kreuzers games history
2015 Carlton 10
2014 Carlton 1
2013 Carlton 17
2012 Carlton 20
2011 Carlton 12
2010 Carlton 13
2009 Carlton 23
2008 Carlton 20
Lueuenberger is no better than kreuzer in regards injuries and games per year.
Year Team Games
2015 Brisbane 14
2014 Brisbane 5
2013 Brisbane 20
2012 Brisbane 3
2011 Brisbane 22
2010 Brisbane 22
2009 Brisbane 3
2008 Brisbane 10
2007 Brisbane 9
I agree we need a second ruck to replace Hampson, but its moneyball time, time for Blair to earn his dough and find a Mumford like he did with Maric.
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Kreuz can play, but you wouldn't get him for nothing and you would only get 6-12 games a year out of him on avg for the rest of his career, its not enough. For a 5th round pick cheap ruckman maybe, but you'd have to give up a 2nd or 1st rounder. Its seems bad maths to me.
Kreuzers games history
2015 Carlton 10
2014 Carlton 1
2013 Carlton 17
2012 Carlton 20
2011 Carlton 12
2010 Carlton 13
2009 Carlton 23
2008 Carlton 20
Lueuenberger is no better than kreuzer in regards injuries and games per year.
Year Team Games
2015 Brisbane 14
2014 Brisbane 5
2013 Brisbane 20
2012 Brisbane 3
2011 Brisbane 22
2010 Brisbane 22
2009 Brisbane 3
2008 Brisbane 10
2007 Brisbane 9
I agree we need a second ruck to replace Hampson, but its moneyball time, time for Blair to earn his dough and find a Mumford like he did with Maric.
odds are.
At least one of the two will have a good run with injury in future
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just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?
#1 draft pick
drafted before cotchin
I have a long list of reasons, as to why i think Kreuzer is an above satisfactory standard. And possibly a solid addition, which would be a significant upgrade to our primary list. Specific to one area which is not our strongest department
yet you elect to trot out some stupidity about making cotchin happy and then proceed to argue that he can play based on one solitary game.
Why?
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Kreuzer has played maybe 2 solid games VS RFC, and one great game.
The rest have all been average/poo.
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We can forget about Henderson or Carlisle. We're after mids & mid/forwards according to Benny Gale.
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TRELOAR!!!!!!!! That is exactly what he is!!
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We can forget about Henderson or Carlisle. We're after mids & mid/forwards according to Benny Gale.
I wouldn't believe everything one hears
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Don't care what benny says, reckon we need another KPD. God forbid Rance goes down and Chaplin has only so long left in the tank plus we could do with an upgrade on him even now
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I respect Benny a big amount... but he is not Budda
- key forwards good
- key backs... suspect
- rucks ... suspect
Don't care what benny says, reckon we need another KPD. God forbid Rance goes down and Chaplin has only so long left in the tank plus we could do with an upgrade on him even now
If Maric goes down we are left with Soldo or Hampson ...
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Patrick Dangerfield may be a tiger in 2016. As I wrote in the other thread, we are way too quiet on the Dangerfield front. He wants a flag, Geelong are on the slide and we have the money and we are huge club again. And he is what we are looking for a big midfielder who can kick goals. Our first pick in 2015 plus our first pick in 2016 and maybe Donuts as well to get it done.
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I will lose my poo if we land Danger
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Patrick Dangerfield may be a tiger in 2016. As I wrote in the other thread, we are way too quiet on the Dangerfield front. He wants a flag, Geelong are on the slide and we have the money and we are huge club again. And he is what we are looking for a big midfielder who can kick goals. Our first pick in 2015 plus our first pick in 2016 and maybe Donuts as well to get it done.
free agent old man, no trade necessary.
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Well there ya go. It gets easier then. Everyone is claiming that Geelong is over the line, but we are way too quiet .. I reckon it could be brewing. Our administrators know that the supporters are expecting something big.
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I think our utopia from this year's trade table would be landing both Treloar and Yarran.
I think Yarran is a done deal which addresses our forward/mid need. Just need that pure mid now and I think we will be pushing hard for Treloar. I don't think Danger will leave Adelaide personally, which leaves Treloar as our main man to target.
If we can land both Treloar and Yarran then we've done extremely well. Would expect we'd have to give a 3rd round pick for Yarran. Treloar will be more difficult, our 1st round would go and probably move our 2nd round for their 3rd rounder? We won't part with any of our players unless they are guys not getting games so the club would want to do it with draft picks only. Maybe this is where trading future picks comes in handy.
Agree landing Danger would be the ultimate in terms of costing us no draft picks, but just don't think he will be leaving Adelaide.
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I think our utopia from this year's trade table would be landing both Treloar and Yarran.
I think Yarran is a done deal which addresses our forward/mid need. Just need that pure mid now and I think we will be pushing hard for Treloar. I don't think Danger will leave Adelaide personally, which leaves Treloar as our main man to target.
If we can land both Treloar and Yarran then we've done extremely well. Would expect we'd have to give a 3rd round pick for Yarran. Treloar will be more difficult, our 1st round would go and probably move our 2nd round for their 3rd rounder? We won't part with any of our players unless they are guys not getting games so the club would want to do it with draft picks only. Maybe this is where trading future picks comes in handy.
Agree landing Danger would be the ultimate in terms of costing us no draft picks, but just don't think he will be leaving Adelaide.
Dream pick ups, danger, treloar, kreuzer and yarran
Should cover everyone
Out newman retired, petterd, knights, foley retired, trade bait batch, ty ????? Could this happen?
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Patrick Dangerfield may be a tiger in 2016. As I wrote in the other thread, we are way too quiet on the Dangerfield front. He wants a flag, Geelong are on the slide and we have the money and we are huge club again. And he is what we are looking for a big midfielder who can kick goals. Our first pick in 2015 plus our first pick in 2016 and maybe Donuts as well to get it done.
free agent old man, no trade necessary.
Not quite right, he is a restricted free agent.
Which means Adelaide has the right to match, if they do, the only way he can move clubs is via trade
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Apparently Carlton has said that they will ask for more than one first round pick for Lachie Henderson. Don't think he's worth that much
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They can ask, they won't get it. Won't finish in top 20 of club b&f , either will yarran, that's a good pointer towards currency
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They can ask, they won't get it. Won't finish in top 20 of club b&f , either will yarran, that's a good pointer towards currency
BJ you are talking too much sense.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. I hope we don't pay overs. :-\
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Danger
Treloar > 1st rounder and future 2nd rounder?
Yarran > McBean?
Kreuzer
Astbury>Aish
:pray
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They can ask, they won't get it. Won't finish in top 20 of club b&f , either will yarran, that's a good pointer towards currency
BJ you are talking too much sense.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. I hope we don't pay overs. :-\
if you dont pay overs when there are 17 other teams, you generally dont get the player in question
i would pay overs for danger, trelor, kreuzer etc. :-\
you can trade future draft picks now too.... load up pay overs and the team will be strong enough to trade out fringe players the following years - and regain picks
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Look to us on trading future picks for a couple of rippers this end of the year.
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They can ask, they won't get it. Won't finish in top 20 of club b&f , either will yarran, that's a good pointer towards currency
BJ you are talking too much sense.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. I hope we don't pay overs. :-\
if you dont pay overs when there are 17 other teams, you generally dont get the player in question
i would pay overs for danger, trelor, kreuzer etc. :-\
you can trade future draft picks now too.... load up pay overs and the team will be strong enough to trade out fringe players the following years - and regain picks
I'd pay overs for Dangefield, without hesitation
I'd only give $600-650k a season, not the $750 the pies are supposedly offering that is not overs that is way way overs... Not sure he is worth that. Don't think he should be getting more than some of our A graders. Sends a poor message
Kreuzer, with his injury history is far to big a risk to be paying overs. Besides you being in him than one of younger developing talls goes...
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Look to us on trading future picks for a couple of rippers this end of the year.
Yeah sure....WHO?????
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I'd only give $600-650k a season, not the $750 the pies are supposedly offering that is not overs that is way way overs... Not sure he is worth that. Don't think he should be getting more than some of our A graders. Sends a poor message
Completely understand where you're coming from but that line of thinking means we just don't get him. If our A graders took paycuts in order for the club to land a big fish, is it then unreasonable to pay this guy overs to get him? I'd say, if the club believes he's the missing piece of the puzzle, then we have to offer overs to get him. If our A graders are offended, then they're personal beliefs are contrary to the clubs direction. I think David Williamson wrote a play using this exact quandary as the storyline....
Its a tricky one.
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I think if we are chasing the likes of Trealor it would have to be a first round pick which id be happy to do... Likes of yarran carlton want a first round pick hahah kidding arnt they would could do a swap give them astbury lets think is astbury going to get into our team specially when they signed Elton for another 2 years chaplin maybe 1-2 years left which I think they will try and work Elton into ????
Motlop the other guy would be handy watching him on Saturday brings that x factor pace class and kicks goals would be great what can we offer maybe liam who knows what Clarke is doing at geelong need someone to help tom out????
danger well we just need to offer the cash pretty much 700 yep happy for him to take that think he goes into the middle with cotch,miles allows us to play martin dids up forward very dangerous.
just getting some guys we must be due to land a big fish we are always gonna do this but never do 2016 must make it right :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
GO U TIGERS
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
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Completely understand where you're coming from but that line of thinking means we just don't get him. If our A graders took paycuts in order for the club to land a big fish, is it then unreasonable to pay this guy overs to get him? I'd say, if the club believes he's the missing piece of the puzzle, then we have to offer overs to get him. If our A graders are offended, then they're personal beliefs are contrary to the clubs direction. I think John Williamson wrote a play using this exact quandary as the storyline....
Its a tricky one.
Or to look at it from the other angle (I call it the Geelong model during their run of flags) what if our A graders took paycuts to keep the list together and to get another proven A Grader in the team without over paying? But the club then goes off & offers to pay a kid who's only played 3 seasons $750k it is not a smart move and I question what sort of message does it send
TBBH I don't think Trelor should be paid more than say Dusty, Lids or Rance. And going by the reported numbers that's what would happen
But I will go on record as saying I'd have no problem with them going overs for Dangefield because he has the runs on the board over a sustained period. Would have no problems with him coming in and being our highest paid player and doubt our A graders would either
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
Hardwicks not leaving Richmond. He has invested too much of himself in this for him to leave now. He is also legally obligated via contract until the end of 2016. To be honest I expect an announcement when the season is over that he has renewed with us until the end of 2018 or 2019.
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
Hardwicks not leaving Richmond. He has invested too much of himself in this for him to leave now. He is also legally obligated via contract until the end of 2016. To be honest I expect an announcement when the season is over that he has renewed with us until the end of 2018 or 2019.
Could be right with this one.
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
Hardwicks not leaving Richmond. He has invested too much of himself in this for him to leave now. He is also legally obligated via contract until the end of 2016. To be honest I expect an announcement when the season is over that he has renewed with us until the end of 2018 or 2019.
Could be right with this one.
:thumbsup
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
no chance for mine
hes put in six years why would he start again?
hes already got some money, young family, leaving in the leafy south-east
i doubt he'd want to start from scratch - when the list he has put together is maturing currently
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Completely understand where you're coming from but that line of thinking means we just don't get him. If our A graders took paycuts in order for the club to land a big fish, is it then unreasonable to pay this guy overs to get him? I'd say, if the club believes he's the missing piece of the puzzle, then we have to offer overs to get him. If our A graders are offended, then they're personal beliefs are contrary to the clubs direction. I think David Williamson wrote a play using this exact quandary as the storyline....
Its a tricky one.
Or to look at it from the other angle (I call it the Geelong model during their run of flags) what if our A graders took paycuts to keep the list together and to get another proven A Grader in the team without over paying? But the club then goes off & offers to pay a kid who's only played 3 seasons $750k it is not a smart move and I question what sort of message does it send
TBBH I don't think Trelor should be paid more than say Dusty, Lids or Rance. And going by the reported numbers that's what would happen
But I will go on record as saying I'd have no problem with them going overs for Dangefield because he has the runs on the board over a sustained period. Would have no problems with him coming in and being our highest paid player and doubt our A graders would either
I don't think Treloar should be paid more than our A graders either, but that's not recognising the nature of the player market at the moment. If you want to tempt an A grader to your club, you have to offer overs. The question you ask yourself first is, do we want this guy at our club, and how much do we want him here?
Trouble with using the Geelong model as a comparison is that they won they're flags partially off the back of F/S champions and we don't have that luxury. They absolutely paid their list unders to keep it together, but they didn't need to bring in any champions. Do I think Richmonds list is premiership worthy in its current state. Perhaps, if players reach their potentials and beyond. Would another A grader help top off the current crop? We'd have the best midfield in the comp with Treloar lining up for us IMHO.
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I'd only give $600-650k a season, not the $750 the pies are supposedly offering that is not overs that is way way overs... Not sure he is worth that. Don't think he should be getting more than some of our A graders. Sends a poor message
Completely understand where you're coming from but that line of thinking means we just don't get him. If our A graders took paycuts in order for the club to land a big fish, is it then unreasonable to pay this guy overs to get him? I'd say, if the club believes he's the missing piece of the puzzle, then we have to offer overs to get him. If our A graders are offended, then they're personal beliefs are contrary to the clubs direction. I think David Williamson wrote a play using this exact quandary as the storyline....
Its a tricky one.
spot on; are martin, rance, jack, deledio, chimp going to get stroppy cause some new kid is getting 150k more than they 'deserve'? or would they be happy they have another A grader that can help give the flag a shake?
if you watch cotchin, or listen to him speak hes pretty mature. im sure hed convince the lads its just a bit of communism for the greater good ie. a flag
Completely understand where you're coming from but that line of thinking means we just don't get him. If our A graders took paycuts in order for the club to land a big fish, is it then unreasonable to pay this guy overs to get him? I'd say, if the club believes he's the missing piece of the puzzle, then we have to offer overs to get him. If our A graders are offended, then they're personal beliefs are contrary to the clubs direction. I think David Williamson wrote a play using this exact quandary as the storyline....
Its a tricky one.
Or to look at it from the other angle (I call it the Geelong model during their run of flags) what if our A graders took paycuts to keep the list together and to get another proven A Grader in the team without over paying? But the club then goes off & offers to pay a kid who's only played 3 seasons $750k it is not a smart move and I question what sort of message does it send
TBBH I don't think Trelor should be paid more than say Dusty, Lids or Rance. And going by the reported numbers that's what would happen
But I will go on record as saying I'd have no problem with them going overs for Dangefield because he has the runs on the board over a sustained period. Would have no problems with him coming in and being our highest paid player and doubt our A graders would either
I don't think Treloar should be paid more than our A graders either, but that's not recognising the nature of the player market at the moment. If you want to tempt an A grader to your club, you have to offer overs. The question you ask yourself first is, do we want this guy at our club, and how much do we want him here?
Trouble with using the Geelong model as a comparison is that they won they're flags partially off the back of F/S champions and we don't have that luxury. They absolutely paid their list unders to keep it together, but they didn't need to bring in any champions. Do I think Richmonds list is premiership worthy in its current state. Perhaps, if players reach their potentials and beyond. Would another A grader help top off the current crop? We'd have the best midfield in the comp with Treloar lining up for us IMHO.
spot on
not all the players are deadset dumb. some would understand the value of danger or trelor, addition, to the current group
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I'd throw $1.2 mill at Dangerfield. The group knows he is the elite player that could snatch us a flag. For that reason, they wouldn't care about the money.
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Yarran to RFC will be the first deal signed off in the trade period :shh
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I heard a whisper in March that Kruezer would be at Richmond in 2016.
Nothing I have heard suggests otherwise at the moment.
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And further to that if your best mate is at the best supported club in Australia he is not doing his job if he's not in his ear every second day.
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
Hardwicks not leaving Richmond. He has invested too much of himself in this for him to leave now. He is also legally obligated via contract until the end of 2016. To be honest I expect an announcement when the season is over that he has renewed with us until the end of 2018 or 2019.
not if we dont win a final you wont mate
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Speaking of which, who recalls the end of 1995, Swooper John Northey was our coach, RFC was flying, and lo and behold he buggered off to Brisbane really with no warning, the team and club were shattered.
Imagine if the drug lords decided to make a play for Dimma?? What is his status??
Hardwicks not leaving Richmond. He has invested too much of himself in this for him to leave now. He is also legally obligated via contract until the end of 2016. To be honest I expect an announcement when the season is over that he has renewed with us until the end of 2018 or 2019.
not if we dont win a final you wont mate
I wouldn't believe they need that to re-sign him. Name me the last coach and year that coached us to three successive finals series?
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if they drop out of the finals in embarrassing fashion again then hardwicks sphincter will be pulsating badly, and so it should be
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
He will be a RFA at the end of this year, FFS keep up
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
Not the Pies
Bulldogs are after him big time
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS! I agree, #1 jumper would look pretty effing good on him!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS!
This rumour has been gathering steam. I wrote about it on here the last 2 days. RFC really quiet on the Dangerfield front. I expect we are right in it up to our ears with Dangerfield.
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holy hell would dangerfield slot right into our midfield or what. feel like its unlikely though. would come back to vic to live in moggs creek which isnt a far drive from geelong
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what does the pod cast say?
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS!
This rumour has been gathering steam. I wrote about it on here the last 2 days. RFC really quiet on the Dangerfield front. I expect we are right in it up to our ears with Dangerfield.
not the mail im getting, zero interest at his hefty salary demands that would have him being paid twice watch cotch is on ::)
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what does the pod cast say?
that Richmond is in prime position and he could be wearing the No 1 jumper next season at Punt Road. Its a rumour around the place. Don't know where it started but its gathered steam because plenty of people have been talking about it and now the media are running with it.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS!
This rumour has been gathering steam. I wrote about it on here the last 2 days. RFC really quiet on the Dangerfield front. I expect we are right in it up to our ears with Dangerfield.
not the mail im getting, zero interest at his hefty salary demands that would have him being paid twice watch cotch is on ::)
Are you saying that he has asked for $1.50 million a year coz Cotch is on 750k according to media reports. I don't think Dangerfield wants anywhere near $1.5 million a year.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS!
This rumour has been gathering steam. I wrote about it on here the last 2 days. RFC really quiet on the Dangerfield front. I expect we are right in it up to our ears with Dangerfield.
not the mail im getting, zero interest at his hefty salary demands that would have him being paid twice watch cotch is on ::)
:lol
"Hefty salary demands"? Not sure where you got that from. There's a massive difference between demanding and having clubs offering huge deals
As for twice as much as Cotch. Please.... Based on your "mail" you are implying he is demanding close to $1.6 to $2 mil a season ...as I said Please
Cotchin is obviously our highest paid player and I believe that won't be changing anytime soon
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transcript ::)
EFA
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/luke-hodge-can-accept-two-week-ban-nat-fyfe-cleared-still-eligible-for-brownlow-medal/story-fni5f22o-1227496882584 6:10 have a listen to the 'rumour' ssshhhhhh ;)
Holy poo make it HAPPEN TIGERS!
This rumour has been gathering steam. I wrote about it on here the last 2 days. RFC really quiet on the Dangerfield front. I expect we are right in it up to our ears with Dangerfield.
not the mail im getting, zero interest at his hefty salary demands that would have him being paid twice watch cotch is on ::)
Podcast rumor validated.
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I'll be checking my sources tomoz, standby :shh
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:cheers
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
Not the Pies
Bulldogs are after him big time
Sorry but I did hear the Pies on SEN.
How scary would the Bulldogs be with him too.... :o
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I'd throw $1.2 mill at Dangerfield. The group knows he is the elite player that could snatch us a flag. For that reason, they wouldn't care about the money.
Yep let's do it.
holy hell would dangerfield slot right into our midfield or what. feel like its unlikely though. would come back to vic to live in moggs creek which isnt a far drive from geelong
That's OK, the highway bypasses right past Geelong these days, you wouldn't even know it was there as you drive past.
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I have FA.
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Mark Stevens reckons the Bulldogs have one opposition ruckman tied up for next year. Out of Stefan Martin or Matty Kreuzer in his view.
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Mark Stevens reckons the Bulldogs have one opposition ruckman tied up for next year. Out of Stefan Martin or Matty Kreuzer in his view.
I think it Might be Kruezer
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Y would we want Kruser really lets look at he is more injury prone then Griffo... we all know we need pace and a small forward that should be our aim and that's it at any cost as well... We have money to burn and with the players that are leaving should free up some more cap space to get 2 or 3 decent ready mate footballers and then top up in the draft :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
GO U TIGERS
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
Not the Pies
Bulldogs are after him big time
Sorry but I did hear the Pies on SEN.
How scary would the Bulldogs be with him too.... :o
Like the Power have been since they picked up Ryder. Doesn't always work out that way.
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Kruz is another linked to the Pies....how I don't know. I would like Kruz at the RFC but at what price..Not a first rounder.
Not the Pies
Bulldogs are after him big time
Sorry but I did hear the Pies on SEN.
How scary would the Bulldogs be with him too.... :o
Like the Power have been since they picked up Ryder. Doesn't always work out that way.
Different players completely with completely different skills to offer completely different teams..
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How?
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Players on the market according to Mark Stevens on Talking Footy:
Jake Carlisle (linked to Carlton)
Jeremy Howe (linked to the Saints)
Matt Suckling (linked to Brisbane)
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And we get NOBODY :snidegrin
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And we get NOBODY :snidegrin
For now :thumbsup
Players have to want to come here :whistle
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Suckling lol. Who's running Brisbane??
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Suckling lol. Who's running Brisbane??
That's a really good question. I believe they are wondering that themselves :shh
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BREAKING: Brisbane Lions star Jack Redden has officially requested a trade.
https://twitter.com/AFLTrade
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BREAKING: Brisbane Lions star Jack Redden has officially requested a trade.
https://twitter.com/AFLTrade
Sack the bum!
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He is 25 in December so 26 next by the end of December 2016. We could 5 to 7 years out of him.
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I would be keen if we miss out on Treloar.
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I would be keen if we miss out on Treloar.
Me too.
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Reddens first couple of seasons were great but he's realy fell off the radar the last couple.
Not sure what his issues are but I'd be keen if he didn't cost an arm and a leg.
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I would be keen if we miss out on Treloar.
Me too.
Me three
Perhaps his issues are playing for a basket case like the lions?
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Reddens first couple of seasons were great but he's realy fell off the radar the last couple.
Not sure what his issues are but I'd be keen if he didn't cost an arm and a leg.
I think you could make the same case for Rich and the rest of them. Granted that Rich has been injured but there was a time when the Lion's young midfield was highly rated but the whole lot have considerably fell away.
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Direct swap for Astbury would be fair IMHO. We get another inside mid and they get a key defender.
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I still think Harper would be a bargain basement get from North.
Only 23, has had a tough run with injury but has strung a dozen good games together in the VFL.
Is out of contract and potentially could be got for next to nothing.
Wack him on the opposite wing to Macintosh and KABOOM!!
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I reckon they'd have their eye on Harper to replace knights on the list. Low cost option, ready to go
Redden has good numbers , lots of contested and clearances. I'd swap for astbury
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Redden is in the right age bracket, delivers another big bodied inside mid into our mix. I think he would be a terrific get for us. An Astbury for Redden swap would be a good result for everyone.
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Redden is in the right age bracket, delivers another big bodied inside mid into our mix. I think he would be a terrific get for us. An Astbury for Redden swap would be a good result for everyone.
Totally agree
Win/Win
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Have we got a contigency for a ruckman other than Kruezer?
Lycett, Leuenberger, Martin, Minson, Hannath or trade Newy for NicNat perhaps. :shh
I reckon we need another ruckman urgently.
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Redden is contracted for 2016 but he will be a free agent at the end of next year. So if the Lions don't trade him now then they'll only get a compo pick at best in 12 months time.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-01/redden-wants-out-lions-midfielder-requests-trade
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We do need another ruckman, ideally who s ready to go in 12 months coz he won't play in front of Ivy and TV , I like lycett , takes a great grab
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Redden is in the right age bracket, delivers another big bodied inside mid into our mix. I think he would be a terrific get for us. An Astbury for Redden swap would be a good result for everyone.
I think we'd need to throw in a second rounder as well to get it done. Redden would be a very good addition to a solid midfield.
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Throw the kitchen sink at rockcliff
Lions are a shambles
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WEST Coast is believed to be the preferred destination for 24-year-old Brisbane Lions midfielder Jack Redden after he told the club on Tuesday he wanted to seek a trade despite a year remaining on his contract.
The consistent midfielder has also attracted preliminary interest from several Victorian clubs, and Adelaide is understood to be also monitoring the South Australian.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-02/eagles-among-the-clubs-keen-on-wantaway-lion-redden
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GWS need a ruckman.
Give them first round pick and Hampson for Treloar...
Kill two birds with one stone :cheers
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GWS need a ruckman.
Give them first round pick and Hampson for Treloar...
Kill two birds with one stone :cheers
hampson doesn't add anything to GWS. Its going to cost us 2 x 1st round picks minimum.
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GWS need a ruckman.
Give them first round pick and Hampson for Treloar...
Kill two birds with one stone :cheers
hampson doesn't add anything to GWS. Its going to cost us 2 x 1st round picks minimum.
maybe
1st round
2nd rounder
Plus meganGale
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GWS need a ruckman.
Give them first round pick and Hampson for Treloar...
Kill two birds with one stone :cheers
hampson doesn't add anything to GWS. Its going to cost us 2 x 1st round picks minimum.
It said they need a ruckman, not a good ruckman :scream
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AT is worth 2 first round picks in exchange for their second, bearing in mind this year is like an early second pick with compo's etc
Said it before Hackson needs to start doing his job with the second rounders or we will get found it in the coming years.
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All we will end up with now is the hack from Carlton. Yarran. I hope to hell the club don't gloat to us about picking him up. War chest ready for action hey.... Bloody crap RFC.
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AT is worth 2 first round picks in exchange for their second, bearing in mind this year is like an early second pick with compo's etc
Said it before Hackson needs to start doing his job with the second rounders or we will get found it in the coming years.
Funny I thought McIntosh and Rance were doing OK myself ;D
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To include rance is clutching at straws
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To include rance is clutching at straws
I have to agree with this.
Though there looks to be be upside from last season's draftees.
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To include rance is clutching at straws
Why?
Is he not a 2nd rounder?
Point is for anyone to suggest that all our 2nd rounders have been busts is wrong :snidegrin
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To include rance is clutching at straws
2 in almost 10 years what an effort :bow
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AT is worth 2 first round picks in exchange for their second, bearing in mind this year is like an early second pick with compo's etc
Said it before Hackson needs to start doing his job with the second rounders or we will get found it in the coming years.
Funny I thought McIntosh and Rance were doing OK myself ;D
Shane Edwards gets a bad wrap as well for a later pick ;D
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To include rance is clutching at straws
Why?
Is he not a 2nd rounder?
Point is for anyone to suggest that all our 2nd rounders have been busts is wrong :snidegrin
i think technically rance was a priority draft pick
a pick taken before the second round
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Reddens first couple of seasons were great but he's realy fell off the radar the last couple.
Not sure what his issues are but I'd be keen if he didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Injury
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To include rance is clutching at straws
Why?
Is he not a 2nd rounder?
Point is for anyone to suggest that all our 2nd rounders have been busts is wrong :snidegrin
i think technically rance was a priority draft pick
a pick taken before the second round
Correct.
He wasn't actually a second round pick
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To include rance is clutching at straws
2 in almost 10 years what an effort :bow
correct WP is having another moment.
i would still agree 2 in almost 10 years. Mcintosh hasnt proved anything yet and edwards has done enough now for that pick to be a success. Rance is his best 2nd round achievement as a recruiter, and i use that term loosely.
lets compare that to the swans and sydney players that played off in the granny a few years back, starting with the rookies.
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To include rance is clutching at straws
2 in almost 10 years what an effort :bow
correct WP is having another moment.
i would still agree 2 in almost 10 years. Mcintosh hasnt proved anything yet and edwards has done enough now for that pick to be a success. Rance is his best 2nd round achievement as a recruiter, and i use that term loosely.
lets compare that to the swans and sydney players that played off in the granny a few years back, starting with the rookies.
I was :fishing :lol
And I forgot Batchelor- who's improved as well this year, he was 2nd rounder
But just on Rookies...hmmm
I think our rookies are doing OK too
Miles, Lambert & Castagna looks alright
:highclap :highfive
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FJs crew is reputed in footy circles , we know it and the secrets getting out :shh
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its hard, really hard, not to reply to that without including the verb stupid and noun idiot
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is Titch Edwards a second round pick
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if every club has had a pick and then you have a second pick, that is effectively a second round pick, regardless of what technically it may be labelled as.
FFS ::)
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is Titch Edwards a second round pick
Yep
Jack draft
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What about Batch?
I think he was a second round pick, and let's face it he has had a very good year.
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To include rance is clutching at straws
2 in almost 10 years what an effort :bow
correct WP is having another moment.
i would still agree 2 in almost 10 years. Mcintosh hasnt proved anything yet and edwards has done enough now for that pick to be a success. Rance is his best 2nd round achievement as a recruiter, and i use that term loosely.
lets compare that to the swans and sydney players that played off in the granny a few years back, starting with the rookies.
I was :fishing :lol
And I forgot Batchelor- who's improved as well this year, he was 2nd rounder
But just on Rookies...hmmm
I think our rookies are doing OK too
Miles, Lambert & Castagna looks alright
:highclap :highfive
looking allright is a lot different to being a success. i gave you Rance and edwards 100% success to date and batchelor for the year he has had. Thats it though.
On the last few you mentioned i would think others had more of an input into those selections than our man hackson, e.g choco with Miles or Hartley.
from all reports it was hartley who delivered the goods here with miles.
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What about Batch?
I think he was a second round pick, and let's face it he has had a very good year.
yep
conca draft
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AFL website says we're interested in Redden.
Trade whispers:
Nick Bowen
AFL.com.au
September 4, 2015
GREATER Western Sydney appears determined to land a readymade ruck partner for Shane Mumford in October's player exchange period, with Brisbane Lion Matthew Leuenberger and Gold Coast's Zac Smith among its chief targets.
The Giants won seven of their first 11 games this year when Mumford was at the helm of their ruck division, but since the former Swan went down with a season-ending ankle injury they have won just three more times.
GWS has a trio of promising young ruckmen in Tom Downie, Rory Lobb and Andrew Phillips, but they have struggled to fill the massive hole left by Mumford in the second half of 2015.
Leuenberger, 27, and Smith, 25, appeal to the Giants as more battle-hardened sidekicks for Mumford.
It is understood that Leuenberger is their No.1 target, but the Giants face stiff competition for the restricted free agent.
Leuenberger, 203cm, is almost certain to leave the Gabba in October's free agency period, but a lot of things have to play out before the West Australian decides on a new home.
All the key trade and free agency dates for 2015
As AFL.com.au revealed in July, the Sydney Swans are extremely interested in Leuenberger as they seek to provide support for Mike Pyke, who will turn 32 next March.
But the Swans won't be able to field a competitive offer for Leuenberger unless they convince the AFL to lift the trade restrictions that prohibit them from offering a rival player more than the average AFL wage of about $350,000 a season while the cost of living allowance (COLA) is being phased out.
More recently, Fremantle has also emerged as a potential suitor for Leuenberger.
But the Dockers, who already boast the competition's deepest ruck division with four-time All Australian Aaron Sandilands, Zac Clarke, Jonathon Griffin and Jack Hannath, won't decide whether to make a firm bid for the Lion until their season is over.
The Giants also face competition to sign the out-of-contract Smith, with Essendon and Geelong also circling him.
The ruckman could yet decide to re-sign with Gold Coast, but if he leaves Essendon is favourite to win his signature.
Fellow Sun Aaron Hall also remains out of contract and opposition clubs led by North Melbourne are starting to court the in-form midfielder.
Hall's negotiations with Gold Coast have dragged on this year as his form has fluctuated, but the Suns are confident of re-signing him soon.
Dumped to the NEAFL after a slow start to the season, Hall returned in round 14 and quickly hit career-best form.
In the past six rounds, the 24-year-old Tasmanian has averaged nearly 27 possessions a game and been one of the Suns' prime movers in the midfield.
The Brisbane Lions are believed to have entered the race for out-of-contract Giants youngsters Nathan Wilson and Curtly Hampton.
AFL.com.au revealed in July that Adelaide was interested in both defenders, with Wilson also on Port Adelaide's radar.
It now appears likely that both players will seek greater senior opportunities at new homes, although Wilson is unlikely to move home to Western Australia.
In other news:
* Although contracted Brisbane Lion Jack Redden's preferred new home is West Coast, Richmond and Melbourne are also believed to be interested in the prospective 2016 free agent.
* Rival clubs believe Hawthorn is circling star Gold Coast youngster Harley Bennell, but it will be hard for the reigning premier to put up a trade deal attractive enough to convince the Suns to part with the sublimely talented midfielder, who is contracted until the end of 2017. St Kilda, Essendon and Melbourne have also been linked with Bennell.
* Carlton free agent Matthew Kreuzer will likely stay at Ikon Park but could pursue bigger offers elsewhere if negotiations with the Blues break down, with the Western Bulldogs particularly keen on the rejuvenated ruckman.
* This year's biggest free agency fish, Patrick Dangerfield,still looks set to join Geelong, with most rival clubs confident that Adelaide will not match the Cats' offer for the restricted free agent.
* Essendon swingman Jake Carlisle remains likely to seek a fresh start in 2016, with North Melbourne and Carlton believed to lead the race for his signature. The Western Bulldogs' interest in the Bomber appears to have cooled.
* Spearhead Charlie Dixon looks set to leave Gold Coast to join Port Adelaide on a long-term deal worth about $650,000 a season.
* Speedster Lewis Jetta is still grappling with whether to re-sign with the Sydney Swans or move home to Western Australia.
* West Coast vice-captain Scott Selwood remains highly likely to join elder brother Joel at Geelong. If the Eagles were to receive an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for the restricted free agent, they could look to use it in a trade for Redden or Jetta.
* Collingwood is shaping more and more as Brisbane Lion James Aish's preferred new home, with Pies defender Paul Seedsman mooted as a possible part of any trade.
* The futures of Melbourne pair Jeremy Howe and Colin Garland remain up in the air. Out-of-contract utility Howe is understood to have remained on Greater Western Sydney's radar after the Giants made a late play for him in last year's trade period. Restricted free agent Garland's negotiations with Melbourne remain on-going but a new deal appears some way off.
* The Brisbane Lions are believed to have cooled on Hawks defender Matt Suckling. The Lions don't want to devalue any compensation pick they receive for losing Matthew Leuenberger by taking Suckling as a free agent, and it's believed the defender is not prepared to leave Hawthorn empty-handed by entering the pre-season draft.
* Port spearhead Jay Schulz will likely seek a trade to Fremantle to take up a two-year deal worth about $500,000 a season.
* Out-of-favour North Melbourne forward Aaron Black appears likely to request a move at the end of the season, but the West Australian remains on a lucrative contract to the end of 2017, which could complicate any trade negotiations.
* Out-of-contract Port Adelaide utility Andrew Moore is likely to seek a fresh start after managing just five senior games this year. The 24-year-old has been in outstanding form with the Port Adelaide Magpies, having been named in their best players in eight of his 11 SANFL games in 2015.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-04/trade-whispers-leuenberger-smith-in-giants-sights
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
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Tiger land
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
:whistle
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
:whistle
WTF does that mean???? Speak up, not sure why people do this. Say it or don't crap on.
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
:whistle
WTF does that mean???? Speak up, not sure why people do this. Say it or don't crap on.
Why he would disclose his source?
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
:whistle
WTF does that mean???? Speak up, not sure why people do this. Say it or don't crap on.
Ha ha. I've heard he is headed our way and the decision was made last week. Hence this journo is over a week behind the real news
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Calm down peoples
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Calm down peoples
Trelor is serious business
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Calm down peoples
Trelor is serious business
Not worth high dollars according to william.
WP any chance you could retract that statement?
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Calm down peoples
Trelor is serious business
Not worth high dollars according to william.
WP any chance you could retract that statement?
Source pls
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LOL.......an example of a very lazy journo. Couldn't be more wrong on Treloar
So where is he going, you seem very sure about yourself??
:whistle
WTF does that mean???? Speak up, not sure why people do this. Say it or don't crap on.
Ha ha. I've heard he is headed our way and the decision was made last week. Hence this journo is over a week behind the real news
See that wasn't hard was it! Thank you, let's hope you are on the money!
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Majak Daw is miles ahead of Hampson. Would like Daw instead
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no thanks
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Don't discount Danger. :shh
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Campbell Brown apparently has his old club Hawthorn going after Gold Coast's Harley Bennell.
http://www.news.com.au/national/harley-bennells-time-at-gold-coast-could-be-over-as-rival-club-circle/story-e6frfkp9-1227513361492
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Calm down peoples
Trelor is serious business
Not worth high dollars according to william.
WP any chance you could retract that statement?
No
Why?
Happy to have Treloar but stand by my concerns of him possible being paid more than 4 of our 5 "A" graders
And based on what is being reported that is what would happen
If you think he is worth more than Lids, Reiwoldt, Rance and Martin then good for you
I don't
So NO I don't retract anything
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Not worth anymore than them at all.
If we have to pay overs Id rather go after a Redden type, than a player like Treloar whos contract will push other out over the next few years
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Most of our top players took a pay cut for this exact reason, to bring more star players over
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Calm down peoples
Trelor is serious business
Not worth high dollars according to william.
WP any chance you could retract that statement?
No
Why?
Happy to have Treloar but stand by my concerns of him possible being paid more than 4 of our 5 "A" graders
And based on what is being reported that is what would happen
If you think he is worth more than Lids, Reiwoldt, Rance and Martin then good for you
I don't
So NO I don't retract anything
Its not that he "is worth more" than deledio or cotchin
its what you have to pay, to get him (probable)
the difference is significant
Richmond have 10% extra salary cap space, we have already four retired players, we should have existing space for new players already in the bank, the 2.5billion tv rights will mean the caps are made bigger again
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Its not that he "is worth more" than deledio or cotchin
its what you have to pay, to get him (probable)
the difference is significant
Richmond have 10% extra salary cap space, we have already four retired players, we should have existing space for new players already in the bank, the 2.5billion tv rights will mean the caps are made bigger again
Yep. You have to pay overs to get young guys who are going to be very good players for 10 years. I think Cotch, Lids, Martin and co. would understand this. Salaries for star players are trending upwards anyway so locking Treloar away for 6 years at 700-750 won't seem expensive at all in 3 years.
If he wants to come to punt rd then I'd have no problems with him being our highest paid player.
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Its not that he "is worth more" than deledio or cotchin
its what you have to pay, to get him (probable)
the difference is significant
Richmond have 10% extra salary cap space, we have already four retired players, we should have existing space for new players already in the bank, the 2.5billion tv rights will mean the caps are made bigger again
Yep. You have to pay overs to get young guys who are going to be very good players for 10 years. I think Cotch, Lids, Martin and co. would understand this. Salaries for star players are trending upwards anyway so locking Treloar away for 6 years at 700-750 won't seem expensive at all in 3 years.
If he wants to come to punt rd then I'd have no problems with him being our highest paid player.
theres a lot of merit in this post :thumbsup
what's going on with everyones quoting?
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its not working properly
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its not working properly
Seems to be fixed now
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Looks like it needed de-fibrillating.
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Most of our top players took a pay cut for this exact reason, to bring more star players over
Not disputing that
But I don't think this bloke is worth what he is supposedly asking
3years in the system, doesn't = $750k-800k a season
Dangerfield absolutely, Treloar not sold
And also I want players coming to our club who want to be part of something not because we've offered the biggest pay cheque
And just on an aside: there was nothing wrong with the "quoting" function. One person tried to quote something, got it wrong by cutting the wrong bit out and then it threw out everyone else who quoted using original post as the starting point but it's all fixed now
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You're running against the tide on this one WP. Treloar is a absolute gun and worth every cent of 750k/yr. Second most valuable player on the Giants list after Cameron and most talented young mid in the comp after Bont's. It'll be nudie runs around the house if we get him
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As long as we don't Get Yarran!
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We should be going harder for Kruezer!
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We should be going harder for Kruezer!
Why?
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We should be going harder for Kruezer!
Why?
Rumours that he wants to play in a better team and fits our Ruck issue.
Maric is no good, can not win against better Ruckman.
No to Yarran, he is a sook.
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We should be going harder for Kruezer!
Why?
Rumours that he wants to play in a better team and fits our Ruck issue.
Maric is no good, can not win against better Ruckman.
No to Yarran, he is a sook.
Kreuzer won't beat the better ruckman either. Injury prone and overrated. Word is he's staying at Carlton anyway.
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We should be going harder for Kruezer!
Why?
Rumours that he wants to play in a better team and fits our Ruck issue.
Maric is no good, can not win against better Ruckman.
No to Yarran, he is a sook.
Kreuzer won't beat the better ruckman either. Injury prone and overrated. Word is he's staying at Carlton anyway.
Word is Carlton will get pick two as compensation if he walks as a free agent.
I'd be pushing him out the door if I were Carlton....
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You're running against the tide on this one WP. Treloar is a absolute gun and worth every cent of 750k/yr. Second most valuable player on the Giants list after Cameron and most talented young mid in the comp after Bont's. It'll be nudie runs around the house if we get him
Not a problem. Just my take
As I said I'd be happy if we got him. Really would
Worth $650k a year for mine
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Dixon quits the Suns to seek Power trade.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-06/dixon-quits-the-suns-to-seek-trade
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You don't pay face value to lure opposition players with plenty of interest though. The club has mentioned plenty of times about setting ourselves up for a move like this and I expect the players have bought into it by having their wages structured in a way to make it possible. If he costs the 850k which has been floated around then so be it, we've prepared for it.
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- calrton dont want kreuzer (i assume)
- like melbourne didnt want frawley
given, the stupid system where they are granted top 3 draft picks for them
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Reckon Kruezer will end up at Punt Rd
Best mate of Cotch
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yesterday he was about to sign with blues again ,today this.....How can the average punter follow this
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Jack Watts to Richmond.
told the club he wants a fresh start. off to tigerland.
source: many
-TheKetamine
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-watts-to-richmond.1110497/
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No thanks!
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lmao what a troll.
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Yeah...no thanks.
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Yeah...no thanks.
We agree on something!
I honestly don't know who he gets a game in front of?
You can't play Jack Ty Grif and Watts in the same fwd line.
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Yeah...no thanks.
We agree on something!
I honestly don't know who he gets a game in front of?
You can't play Jack Ty Grif and Watts in the same fwd line.
No sub rule:
Fwd ->. Jack ty bean/griff
Ruck: Maric / krez
Back: rance grimes watts
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Does he replace Batch.. :lol
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Does he replace Batch.. :lol
Watts > Chappy
Bachelor / bacha go alright
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Tell you what, if I underestimate Batch, then Chappy is the most underestimated player in the AFL, particularity on this site. Chappy is very well regarded across the AFL.
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Deadset dud
Carlisle.
Henderson
Watts
I'd take anything
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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Deadset dud
Carlisle.
Henderson
Watts
I'd take anything
given some of the gobbledegook you post i have no trouble believing that last statement
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Deadset dud
Carlisle.
Henderson
Watts
I'd take anything
given some of the gobbledegook you post i have no trouble believing that last statement
:lol and everywhere..
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
Moves like a baboon
Reads the play like a drunk blind man
Turning circle of a faulty boat
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
Moves like a baboon
Reads the play like a drunk blind man
Turning circle of a faulty boat
You forgot......Points fingers at others like a traffic cop on a 10 lane roundabout.
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
:lol :lol :rollin
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
ur kidding right he has his moments mate but not the worst on out list I think chaopoy has 1-2 tyears left as he is getting that little bit slower but he helps rance we are not developing a strong backman there were are we without him lost mate... u think the likes of Gordon,thomas,arnott,dea, are better then him please ur kidding urself
GO U TIGERS
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
uas he is getting that little bit slower
:lol
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
ur kidding right he has his moments mate but not the worst on out list I think chaopoy has 1-2 tyears left as he is getting that little bit slower but he helps rance we are not developing a strong backman there were are we without him lost mate... u think the likes of Gordon,thomas,arnott,dea, are better then him please ur kidding urself
GO U TIGERS
:huh :huh :huh, um, perhaps you need to put the bottle away...did you confuse the Nescafe with the scotch this morning??
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
ur kidding right he has his moments mate but not the worst on out list I think chaopoy has 1-2 tyears left as he is getting that little bit slower but he helps rance we are not developing a strong backman there were are we without him lost mate... u think the likes of Gordon,thomas,arnott,dea, are better then him please ur kidding urself
GO U TIGERS
:huh :huh :huh, um, perhaps you need to put the bottle away...did you confuse the Nescafe with the scotch this morning??
Big Man, perhaps you need so put your peyote down before commenting on our backline
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
ur kidding right he has his moments mate but not the worst on out list I think chaopoy has 1-2 tyears left as he is getting that little bit slower but he helps rance we are not developing a strong backman there were are we without him lost mate... u think the likes of Gordon,thomas,arnott,dea, are better then him please ur kidding urself
GO U TIGERS
:huh :huh :huh, um, perhaps you need to put the bottle away...did you confuse the Nescafe with the scotch this morning??
Big Man, perhaps you need so put your peyote down before commenting on our backline
You drinking too?
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Very good and important player is Chappy, holds the backline together with Rance, very hard to do that when we have a broken arrow down back in Batch.. :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
ur kidding right he has his moments mate but not the worst on out list I think chaopoy has 1-2 tyears left as he is getting that little bit slower but he helps rance we are not developing a strong backman there were are we without him lost mate... u think the likes of Gordon,thomas,arnott,dea, are better then him please ur kidding urself
GO U TIGERS
:huh :huh :huh, um, perhaps you need to put the bottle away...did you confuse the Nescafe with the scotch this morning??
Big Man, perhaps you need so put your peyote down before commenting on our backline
You drinking too?
Are you?
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
Moves like a baboon
Reads the play like a drunk blind man
Turning circle of a faulty boat
Reading the play one of the only few things he's good at. Has a good footy brain. Too bad his body can't react at the same speed
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very true that, but dont expect someone who thinks chaplin was the shooter on the grassy knoll to admit it
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Chappy is easily the worst player on our list......Fact!
Go away and follow a game you might be able to understand , like marbles ::) . I'm dumber for reading that comment
Moves like a baboon
Reads the play like a drunk blind man
Turning circle of a faulty boat
Reading the play one of the only few things he's good at. Has a good footy brain. Too bad his body can't react at
the same speed
I've see several goals copped, when Chaplin was the loose man , goal keeper if you will
Go in, at catchable level. Cause he's in the wrong part of the ground ...
To be fair he reads the play ok. But almost everyone in that role does: Carlisle. Lake. Richards. Hansen etc. if watts can read it on occasion and take a mark
As the loose man he's not damaging, attacking or skilful enough IMHO. Look at who's doing the same job down the other end, it's often more effective
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Least amount of goals conceded. Most of them must be doing alright
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Bennell up for trade.
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Treloar to nominate Collingwood....... :thumbsdown
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Bit worried about the Treloar trade as i'm hearing nothing anywhere that we are fighting for him.
Only good news is that Danger news is very quiet.
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Treloar to nominate Collingwood....... :thumbsdown
Yep all over Twitter
@AFLNewsWire: Adam Treloar set to tell GWS he wants to be traded to Collingwood http://t.co/BRo0w6CLi8
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Treloar to nominate Collingwood....... :thumbsdown
Where from?
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Treloar to nominate Collingwood....... :thumbsdown
Source?
Big head has been very happy with himself lately so not surprised. Bloody disgrace if that happens
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Ffs are we ever going to get a player of any bloody worth, stuff this really annoys me. We get no one.... :banghead
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
We better end up with something over this trade period, especially after boasting about big money landing a big fish.
YARRAN IS NOT BIG FISH!!!
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
We better end up with something over this trade period, especially after boasting about big money landing a big fish.
YARRAN IS NOT BIG FISH!!!
I don't even bloody want Yarren so if that's all we end up with the RFC are full of poo. Year after year poo about being aggressive during the trade and free agency period. :banghead
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
We are playing finals, we have a couple of young kids like Ellis and Mendadue and such
coming through.
If it's true that the going rate for Treloar is 750k, FFS Dusty isn't on that amount and he is a better player the AT.
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
We are playing finals, we have a couple of young kids like Ellis and Mendadue and such
coming through.
If it's true that the going rate for Treloar is 750k, FFS Dusty isn't on that amount and he is a better player the AT.
Because we are still 1-2 stars away from a GF team and about 2 more very good players away as well. All these other clubs seem to get the big name players to build succession for years and we get Yarren, Morris and poo like that, it's not sustainable getting crap all the time.
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Need more depth not more poo trucks that Blair and Dan bring in. Missed every single stuffen Big Fish we've gone for. Bloody duds couldn't even catch a cold
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If Scum make us look stupid again this trade period then they can jam their JD fund up their collective clackers!
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Because if our side was so good we wouldn't of lost too bottom 8 sides and miss top 4 pal.
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
We are playing finals, we have a couple of young kids like Ellis and Mendadue and such
coming through.
If it's true that the going rate for Treloar is 750k, FFS Dusty isn't on that amount and he is a better player the AT.
Because the club has come out and made statements and collected money from supporters in the past. The supporters want a big name and to be honest the club must deliver it. Don't know how or who but they must deliver because they said they would.
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
We are playing finals, we have a couple of young kids like Ellis and Mendadue and such
coming through.
If it's true that the going rate for Treloar is 750k, FFS Dusty isn't on that amount and he is a better player the AT.
Because we are still 1-2 stars away from a GF team and about 2 more very good players away as well. All these other clubs seem to get the big name players to build succession for years and we get Yarren, Morris and poo like that, it's not sustainable getting crap all the time.
Correct. Shut lids down we generally lose which means we lack midfield quality
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Blair and Dan are like a couple of 27yold virgins at a nightclub. Walk around eyeing off all the talent but too shy to make a move and then stand around and watch them walk out with the biggest bogan in the place at the end of the night.
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Bit worried about the Treloar trade as i'm hearing nothing anywhere that we are fighting for him.
Only good news is that Danger news is very quiet.
Probably because Adelaide's season isn't over.
GWS and Collingwood's is, player reviews are underway/concluded so expect more from players who aren't playing finals.
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The club must make statement of intent by getting a big name, by winning a bidding war. Even the bulldogs did it last year. We cant go around saying we are a big club if we are going to get walked over by opposition clubs on recruiting.
What was the Fighting Tiger Fund For?
Our reserves team is rubbish and we cant land a decent name player to save ourselves.
Richmond needs to show that its a big club again!
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Good to see there are a lot of us that agree on this topic.
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Blair and Dan are like a couple of 27yold virgins at a nightclub. Walk around eyeing off all the talent but too shy to make a move and then stand around and watch them walk out with the biggest bogan in the place at the end of the night.
Hahahahahaha I posted something similar before reading this.
Very true. War chest. Give me a break
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well I dnt think we will get Danger the way it looks yarran will be our only recruit is he our answer to make the top 4 mmmmm don't think so hell be handy don't get me wrong but we do need another player... I reckon the big smokey in all of this could be carlise we were into him last season dimma has a big wrap on the kid and funny enough his best games this year have been against Richmond he can play forward or back....
bennell also why wouldn't we look at him choco is great with the young kids he has done a hell of a lot for martin and I reckon he could do the same for bennell this kid can play and I mean play if his mind is right he is a better play then trelaor and would come cheaper as GC want him out they need a forward as much as I don't want him to go maybe mcbean or even astbury can be used as trade baite as Dixon is gone..
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup
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if cwood get danger + trelor
let alone aish, kreuzer
not happy jan
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Blair and Dan are like a couple of 27yold virgins at a nightclub. Walk around eyeing off all the talent but too shy to make a move and then stand around and watch them walk out with the biggest bogan in the place at the end of the night.
:lol
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Blair and Dan are like a couple of 27yold virgins at a nightclub. Walk around eyeing off all the talent but too shy to make a move and then stand around and watch them walk out with the biggest bogan in the place at the end of the night.
:lol
From time to time down at the club they have meetings where they put up quotes of what the supporters are saying. If this RFCO is any good the above quote will make it onto the list of quotes to be used. :snidegrin
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
Its just a extension of the messiah complex that ruled Richmond supporters thinking for so long.
It's also due to a lack of onfield success for so long. Supporters need to feel like they have had a win, any win, as long as it is a win -, whether it is how many members we have, who has the best team song, who can pee furthest into the wind.
Could somebody please point me to where the club has actually said we want to recruit this so called big fish, because i missed that part.
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
Its just a extension of the messiah complex that ruled Richmond supporters thinking for so long.
It's also due to a lack of onfield success for so long. Supporters need to feel like they have had a win, any win, as long as it is a win -, whether it is how many members we have, who has the best team song, who can pee furthest into the wind.
Could somebody please point me to where the club has actually said we want to recruit this so called big fish, because i missed that part.
Pretty sure that the club has mentioned the words "war chest" in relation to getting talent to the club. Can't be sure about the "big fish" phrase though.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-club-wants-to-land-big-fish-under-free-agency/story-e6frf9jf-1226003801963
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I am not a fan of throwing big$ at some hawker, it devalues our loyal players.
TBH who in the comp would we throw Big $ at, I think we are humming along OK and would rather see some clever drafting and internal development.
DO NOT trade our first 2 picks, if we can get Bennell cheaply have a crack, Treloar, here is what we are prepared to offer you (gotta be less than Dusty, if you dont like it go to the pies or whereever)
Remember 1 player does not make a team, but 1 player can disrupt a team
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Why do some get wound up about this big fish scenario..FFS.
Its just a extension of the messiah complex that ruled Richmond supporters thinking for so long.
It's also due to a lack of onfield success for so long. Supporters need to feel like they have had a win, any win, as long as it is a win -, whether it is how many members we have, who has the best team song, who can pee furthest into the wind.
Could somebody please point me to where the club has actually said we want to recruit this so called big fish, because i missed that part.
in terms of the peeing contest we have always been the best at that as well as the best at shagging the wives of opposition supporters :snidegrin
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I am not a fan of throwing big$ at some hawker, it devalues our loyal players.
TBH who in the comp would we throw Big $ at, I think we are humming along OK and would rather see some clever drafting and internal development.
DO NOT trade our first 2 picks, if we can get Bennell cheaply have a crack, Treloar, here is what we are prepared to offer you (gotta be less than Dusty, if you dont like it go to the pies or whereever)
Remember 1 player does not make a team, but 1 player can disrupt a team
Agreed completely. Bad for the culture
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Confirmed Carlisle has walled from the Bombers
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Carlisle quits Bombers and asks for trade
Callum Twomey and Jennifer Phelan
September 8, 2015 2:00 PM
JAKE Carlisle has ended a season of speculation about his future by requesting to be traded by Essendon.
The key defender informed the club on Tuesday of his decision to depart the Bombers after holding off contract talks all season.
He has not yet nominated a preferred destination, but a number of clubs have been linked to the 23-year-old, including St Kilda, North Melbourne, Carlton and the Western Bulldogs.
The Bombers are likely to push for a strong deal, but their capacity to do so will be hindered by the fact Carlisle is out of contract and could walk to a club through the pre-season draft if no suitable trade is struck.
Essendon had been bracing for Carlisle to confirm his desire to quit, despite his recent return to his preferred position in defence.
Stand-in coach Matthew Egan said on Tuesday morning the Bombers were aware the longer talks held off the more likely he would leave.
"His actions have been excellent and the way he's played … I think he enjoyed going down back again just for some confidence and you can see how he reads the game really well and gets a lot of intercepts and uses the ball well," Egan told SEN on Tuesday morning.
"But, he hasn't signed, so that's a sign – if you're not signed on the dotted line, it's not great news.
"I really hope he does [stay], because he's really important with his age demographic and how he fits in the group, and those sorts of guys don't grow on trees.
"He's a big, big man and he can play forward and back, so if we do lose him it will be a big loss, but he hasn't signed yet so that's a hard one.
"It's really hard to know."
Carlisle's contract talks were always going to take place at the end of the season, but the Bombers had been buoyed by his level of engagement at the club in recent weeks after he appeared disenchanted in round 19.
Against Greater Western Sydney, it was reported Carlisle yelled, "This club is f****d" during the Bombers' loss.
Complicating matters is the fact he is one of the 34 past and present Bombers that remain subject to the WADA appeal, which is scheduled for November.
Egan isn't planning on applying for the vacant Essendon senior job after taking over from James Hird on a temporary basis last month, but he said troubled Gold Coast midfielder Harley Bennell would not be targeted by the Bombers after being put up for trade on Monday.
"I think where we're at it's probably not [the right place for him]," he said.
"I'm not in those list management discussions at the moment, because Hirdy has been in those all year.
"He's obviously a huge talent, but I think with where we're at with our list, it's probably a no."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-08/bombers-brace-for-carlisles-departure
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-club-wants-to-land-big-fish-under-free-agency/story-e6frf9jf-1226003801963
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:cheers
in terms of the peeing contest we have always been the best at that as well as the best at shagging the wives of opposition supporters :snidegrin
:lol
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We signed our big fishes. :thumbsup
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I am not a fan of throwing big$ at some hawker, it devalues our loyal players.
TBH who in the comp would we throw Big $ at, I think we are humming along OK and would rather see some clever drafting and internal development.
DO NOT trade our first 2 picks, if we can get Bennell cheaply have a crack, Treloar, here is what we are prepared to offer you (gotta be less than Dusty, if you dont like it go to the pies or whereever)
Remember 1 player does not make a team, but 1 player can disrupt a team
Fully concur , the price for Treloar was outrageous , hasn't come top 3 in b&f and wanted to be paid more than our captain, lids and dusty, yeah right. Causes trouble that does, lost us Raines and cloke. Never mind two r1 picks, that's a massive price considering FJ aces it year on year . I couldn't care less :clapping
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I am not a fan of throwing big$ at some hawker, it devalues our loyal players.
TBH who in the comp would we throw Big $ at, I think we are humming along OK and would rather see some clever drafting and internal development.
DO NOT trade our first 2 picks, if we can get Bennell cheaply have a crack, Treloar, here is what we are prepared to offer you (gotta be less than Dusty, if you dont like it go to the pies or whereever)
Remember 1 player does not make a team, but 1 player can disrupt a team
Fully concur , the price for Treloar was outrageous , hasn't come top 3 in b&f and wanted to be paid more than our captain, lids and dusty, yeah right. Causes trouble that does, lost us Raines and cloke. Never mind two r1 picks, that's a massive price considering FJ aces it year on year . I couldn't care less :clapping
omg what century do you think it is
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Carlisle's manager says Jake hasn't made up his mind on which Melbourne club he wants to go to but Tom Browne from Ch 7 said Carlton and St Kilda are the likely destinations with Carlton offering a 4 year deal with the option of a 5th year.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-club-wants-to-land-big-fish-under-free-agency/story-e6frf9jf-1226003801963
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And that pretty well closes every argument in every thread doesn't it!!!!!
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I am not a fan of throwing big$ at some hawker, it devalues our loyal players.
TBH who in the comp would we throw Big $ at, I think we are humming along OK and would rather see some clever drafting and internal development.
DO NOT trade our first 2 picks, if we can get Bennell cheaply have a crack, Treloar, here is what we are prepared to offer you (gotta be less than Dusty, if you dont like it go to the pies or whereever)
Remember 1 player does not make a team, but 1 player can disrupt a team
Fully concur , the price for Treloar was outrageous , hasn't come top 3 in b&f and wanted to be paid more than our captain, lids and dusty, yeah right. Causes trouble that does, lost us Raines and cloke. Never mind two r1 picks, that's a massive price considering FJ aces it year on year . I couldn't care less :clapping
Might work in the Amish league but in capitalist 2015, this sort of thinking would be one of the fastest ways back to square one
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Carlisle's manager says Jake hasn't made up his mind on which Melbourne club he wants to go to but Tom Browne from Ch 7 said Carlton and St Kilda are the likely destinations with Carlton offering a 4 year deal with the option of a 5th year.
If Crylisle is peed off playing for Essendon, how will he go at Carlton and being bottom 2 for the next 5 years?
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Carlisle's manager says Jake hasn't made up his mind on which Melbourne club he wants to go to but Tom Browne from Ch 7 said Carlton and St Kilda are the likely destinations with Carlton offering a 4 year deal with the option of a 5th year.
If Crylisle is peed off playing for Essendon, how will he go at Carlton and being bottom 2 for the next 5 years?
Supposedly there is 750k reason why
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Carlisle's manager says Jake hasn't made up his mind on which Melbourne club he wants to go to but Tom Browne from Ch 7 said Carlton and St Kilda are the likely destinations with Carlton offering a 4 year deal with the option of a 5th year.
If Crylisle is peed off playing for Essendon, how will he go at Carlton and being bottom 2 for the next 5 years?
Supposedly there is 750k reason why
:snidegrin
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he would be mopping up his tears with hundred dollar bills?
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Anyone after a laugh.
http://titusoreily.com/man-cant-believe-collingwood-isnt-listening-trade-ideas/
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Anyone after a laugh.
http://titusoreily.com/man-cant-believe-collingwood-isnt-listening-trade-ideas/
It had me laughing on the train home! Thanks dtrf!
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Anyone after a laugh.
http://titusoreily.com/man-cant-believe-collingwood-isnt-listening-trade-ideas/
:lol :rollin Has Phil jumped ship?
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The Herald Sun is reporting that Gold Coast face an uphill battle at retaining star on-baller, Jaeger O’Meara. O’Meara is said to be a ‘businessman’ and is considering a move to football’s heartland in Victoria, in which he would sure to attract lucrative offers from all Melbourne clubs. The 2013 Rising Star winner is looking at an investment property in St Kilda, and is likely to honour the last year of his contract next season, but is in no rush to sign an early contract extension to remain with the Suns.
Carlton have been linked to a trade for un-contracted Geelong forward, Josh Walker according to the Herald Sun. The 22 year-old has only managed 30 games in his four seasons with the Cats playing more games in 2015 (16) than in seasons 2012-2014.
Brisbane pair Sam Mayes and Josh Green have been linked to an early exit from the Gabba, according to the Herald Sun. Stefan Martin is another who is wavering between sticking with Justin Leppitsch or returning to Melbourne.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Greg Denham on 1116 SEN:
* Blues big man Levi Casboult could be at a new club in 2016.
* Lewis Jetta may very well be done in the first day of the trade period," as speculation continues to surround the Sydney speedster crossing to West Coast in October's trade period.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Essendon will be asking for St.Kilda's Jack Billings if Jake Carlisle does choose St.Kilda as his preferred destination. Billings will be the man the Bombers will keep coming back to if St Kilda is unprepared, to hand over its top pick (currently No. 5) in this year’s draft. By itself, the Saints’ second-round selection won’t get the deal done, which is where the negotiations from a Seaford perspective might wither on the vine early.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Essendon have no leverage. Carlisle is out of contract and there is the chance of being rubbed out. Not to mention being a massive sook and pretty inconsistent. Barrett also said on MMM that clubs don't like dealing with Essendon.
IMO he will walk to Carlton and Essendon will rightly get peanuts.
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I know the Billings family. Huge bomber supporters. If Jack is yet to sign, don't discount the possibility.
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what an odd comment about O'Meara(he's a businessman)
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what an odd comment about O'Meara(he's a businessman)
Agreed. :huh :huh :huh
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Barrett tonight saying Giant key forward Cam McCarthy wants to return home to WA. He's contracted for 2016-17. Freo the one that's keen as they've had him in their sights since the start of the year (at the time he only had played one game). Freo willing to offer multiple and future picks.
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Barrett tonight saying Giant key forward Cam McCarthy wants to return home to WA. He's contracted for 2016-17. Freo the one that's keen as they've had him in their sights since the start of the year (at the time he only had played one game). Freo willing to offer multiple and future picks.
GWS denying Barrett's latest claim.
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/09/171606_c629aea4ae41ff4c588377fc60175a1a.jpg)
https://twitter.com/gwsgiants
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Josh Green from Brisbane.
Would consider. Reasonable small forward.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but McCarthy only signed a deal recently did he not?
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
Just seems odd to sign one and 6 months later (or however recent it was) decide nah you want to go home. At least most people are into there latest contract when they decide to leave. I'm not sure if yarren signed one recently I wouldn't have a clue
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
Just seems odd to sign one and 6 months later (or however recent it was) decide nah you want to go home. At least most people are into there latest contract when they decide to leave. I'm not sure if yarren signed one recently I wouldn't have a clue
He's actually contracted until the end of 2017
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I'm not sure why the hell you all get so hung up on contracts. They don't mean poo, what don't you get about that???
If the club wants the player to leave and/or the player wants to leave its done. Stop the contract talk crap. Trust me it's the same in the real word kids.
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
Just seems odd to sign one and 6 months later (or however recent it was) decide nah you want to go home. At least most people are into there latest contract when they decide to leave. I'm not sure if yarren signed one recently I wouldn't have a clue
He's actually contracted until the end of 2017
Who Yarren? When did he sign it though
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
Just seems odd to sign one and 6 months later (or however recent it was) decide nah you want to go home. At least most people are into there latest contract when they decide to leave. I'm not sure if yarren signed one recently I wouldn't have a clue
He's actually contracted until the end of 2017
Who Yarren? When did he sign it though
No McCarthy is contracted to 2017
I'm not sure why the hell you all get so hung up on contracts. They don't mean poo, what don't you get about that???
If the club wants the player to leave and/or the player wants to leave its done. Stop the contract talk crap. Trust me it's the same in the real word kids.
I get "hung up on contracts" as you put it because for a player to change clubs that's has a contract both parties have to agree to the trade. Player may want to go but if the club says no it doesn't get done, ditto of the club wants out trade a player and the player says no then they don't go
Yes deals get done when both parties agree but if one doesn't agree then it doesn't get done
In the case of McCArthy he's said he wants to be traded, GWS has said they won't trade him. So there is a good chance a very good chance he won't be going anywhere. That's how the real world works.
So for you to suggest that "contracts don't mean poo" is foolish what don't you get about that?
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how lance franklins contract looking wp ?
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how lance franklins contract looking wp ?
WP hasn't seen it but I have.
It's 11 pages long on A4 paper. They have used an Arial font. Lance signed his name with a blue ball point pen. I think he may have put a lol after his signature too. Actually it may have been a LMAO rather than just a lol.
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how lance franklins contract looking wp ?
WP hasn't seen it but I have.
It's 11 pages long on A4 paper. They have used an Arial font. Lance signed his name with a blue ball point pen. I think he may have put a lol after his signature too. Actually it may have been a LMAO rather than just a lol.
;D :lol
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how lance franklins contract looking wp ?
Point?
He hasn't asked to traded, swans aren't going to trade him
Relevance?
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how lance franklins contract looking wp ?
WP hasn't seen it but I have.
It's 11 pages long on A4 paper. They have used an Arial font. Lance signed his name with a blue ball point pen. I think he may have put a lol after his signature too. Actually it may have been a LMAO rather than just a lol.
Doing some of your best work here today Doc. Well done :thumbsup ;D
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On a serious note, Hawthorn seems to be a breeding ground for this type of problem. Its not the first time this has happened and both times Hawthorn has off loaded a player then found to have problems.
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Contracts don't mean poo. Foolish people would believe otherwise 😈😈
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St Kilda could poach talented Magpies youngster Nathan Freeman in this year's trade period, manager Paul Connors has confirmed.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-12/young-pie-on-the-move-saints-circling-freeman
Essendon's Jake Melksham will either stay with the Bombers or seek a trade to the Demons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-jake-melksham-to-be-either-at-essendon-or-melbourne-in-2016-20150912-gjl0ka.html
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Essendon's Jake Melksham will either stay with the Bombers or seek a trade to the Demons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-jake-melksham-to-be-either-at-essendon-or-melbourne-in-2016-20150912-gjl0ka.html
This is called 'rock bottom'
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Try not honouring your loan contract with your Bank
Let me know iIQ you get on😳
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Essendon's Jake Melksham will either stay with the Bombers or seek a trade to the Demons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-jake-melksham-to-be-either-at-essendon-or-melbourne-in-2016-20150912-gjl0ka.html
This is called 'rock bottom'
:lol :help
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St Kilda could poach talented Magpies youngster Nathan Freeman in this year's trade period, manager Paul Connors has confirmed.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-12/young-pie-on-the-move-saints-circling-freeman
Essendon's Jake Melksham will either stay with the Bombers or seek a trade to the Demons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-jake-melksham-to-be-either-at-essendon-or-melbourne-in-2016-20150912-gjl0ka.html
Not every club nails their r1 selections :shh take nothing for granted :clapping
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correct u are mate signed till end of next I believe but contracts what are they know a days look at yarran hahaha....
Just seems odd to sign one and 6 months later (or however recent it was) decide nah you want to go home. At least most people are into there latest contract when they decide to leave. I'm not sure if yarren signed one recently I wouldn't have a clue
He's actually contracted until the end of 2017
Who Yarren? When did he sign it though
No McCarthy is contracted to 2017
I know, that was pretty much the basis of my whole post :huh :huh :huh
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Any word on what Taylor Petrenko's movements are? :shh
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The way the Pies are recruiting or apparently recruiting we won't be able to recognise their team next year..
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Any word on what Taylor Petrenko's movements are? :shh
Taylor is rumoured to be seeking a trade to the Dockers. Claims he hasn't been given chance at the Giants this year
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Tell you what, I have been saying it for ages, we are still 2-3 very good players away from being serious. The North game today has proved that.
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We need more than 2 or 3 ... we need 2 or 3 BIG GAME PERFORMERS! ... bringing in 2 or 3 like Yarran wont make one iota of difference to us.
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Bringing in Yarran is like getting another Batch, waste of bloody time. We need kruz, Bennell and we really need to keep going for Treloar and Aish.
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Essendon's Jake Melksham will either stay with the Bombers or seek a trade to the Demons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-jake-melksham-to-be-either-at-essendon-or-melbourne-in-2016-20150912-gjl0ka.html
This is called 'rock bottom'
And apparently has requested a trade to us.
FFS if this occurs I will burn down punt road, nothing like a Molotov cocktail to shake things up.
:lol :help
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If chicken wings or chicken manure won't change things why should a Molotov cocktail.
We need a priest to cleanse the joint.
Then a coach to the cleanse the list.
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About time we go into the trade period with a bit of balls and put a few guys up there for trade and target a few topline players not average players .
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DOLLARS FOR THE BOYS!
Soft prick Hardwick said in his presser we have some depth in our list (possibly C. Ellis & Lennon but ???? on the rest). He also said he was confident Dan & Blair would get the players we need.
We needed a ruckman last year / we still need a ruckman.....................FAIL!
We needed a small forward last year / Morris gets moved forward .........FAIL!
We needed a midfield tagger last year / picked up delisted Hunt ............FAIL!
We need quality players.......Earn your pay checks and do your bloody job!
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They don't have the balls to go out and get great players. Its easier to go Moneyball and hope for the best and that's what they'll do again with the likes of Yarran IMHO. They will go average players again who wont change the leadership mentality of the list.
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DO SOMETHING
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Deadset dud
Carlisle.
Henderson
Watts
I'd take anything
given some of the gobbledegook you post i have no trouble believing that last statement
Troy is a soft rubbish hack
Build a bridge
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Someone once said, "don't think, do!!!!" And for once I kind of agree. ...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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After yesterday I am keen on Stevie J for a year.
I don't care if he's a d'head or if he's not as good as he was, we need players who stand up in finals.
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After yesterday I am keen on Stevie J for a year.
I don't care if he's a d'head or if he's not as good as he was, we need players who stand up in finals.
He is a player that used to stand up in finals, if you watched much of him this year you would know he far from that player. Big NO from me.
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After yesterday I am keen on Stevie J for a year.
I don't care if he's a d'head or if he's not as good as he was, we need players who stand up in finals.
He is a player that used to stand up in finals, if you watched much of him this year you would know he far from that player. Big NO from me.
He's still got it. Just needs a freshen up.
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Yeah great, let's get Stevie, what a crock of poo. We need youthful stars not has beens. But still not you are still delusional and think that the has beens are the answer.
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Yeah great, let's get Stevie, the hat a crock of poo. We need youthful stars not has beens. But still not you are still delusional and think that the has beens are the answer.
Huh?
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Just get Bennel, Yarran and Kruezer or Blair and co can take a hike
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Yeah great, let's get Stevie, the hat a crock of poo. We need youthful stars not has beens. But still not you are still delusional and think that the has beens are the answer.
Huh?
translation: he does not want SJ
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Yeah great, let's get Stevie, the hat a crock of poo. We need youthful stars not has beens. But still not you are still delusional and think that the has beens are the answer.
Huh?
translation: he does not want SJ
The worrying thing is WAT actually edited that post. Imagine how it read before hand?
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Just watch us pick up someone like Mitch Golby
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Griff to Freo for pick 17.
Theyll pay overs for a KPF
Get it done and on trade that for Bennell
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I think u could be correct in Richmond off loading a tall look at stocks maric,ty,griffo,mcbean,hampson,mckenzie im even thinking someone could take a risk with mcbean he has been in our system for what2-3 years know and just doesn't look like he will get a real go until griffo,ty and poor... mcbean to GC if Dixon goes for bennell happy for a straight swap.. bennell would have been good with pace on sunday something we lacked
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I'm all for getting Bennel but I wouldn't trade Bean. Would rather offload Griff and/or Conca.
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I'm all for getting Bennel but I wouldn't trade Bean. Would rather offload Griff and/or Conca.
I'd take a chance on Bennell over Stevie J.
Won't take much to get Bwnnell. Suns want him gone, 2nd round pick and a fringe player eg Astbury would get it done IMV
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I'm all for getting Bennel but I wouldn't trade Bean. Would rather offload Griff and/or Conca.
I'd take a chance on Bennell over Stevie J.
Won't take much to get Bwnnell. Suns want him gone, 2nd round pick and a fringe player eg Astbury would get it done IMV
Agree with getting Bennell for a 2nd rounder but I still think Astbury has something to offer and we may need him down back. I still think Conca offers a better trade back to WA for a first rounder too, that may help us out.
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I'm all for getting Bennel but I wouldn't trade Bean. Would rather offload Griff and/or Conca.
I'd take a chance on Bennell over Stevie J.
Won't take much to get Bwnnell. Suns want him gone, 2nd round pick and a fringe player eg Astbury would get it done IMV
Agree with getting Bennell for a 2nd rounder but I still think Astbury has something to offer and we may need him down back. I still think Conca offers a better trade back to WA for a first rounder too, that may help us out.
Conca isn't going to get you a first rounder this year. So the decision becomes hold or take what you can. I'd keep him myself. Take out his disposal on Sunday he showed mer desperation in a qtr and a bit than most of our other guns showed all game.
Astbury is getting games (rightly) but would be perfect to a number of teams. He has currency. To get anything of value you trade those who have currency.
If getting a Bennell or Treloar means parting with Astbury, then you do it, no ifs, buts or maybes.
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I'm all for getting Bennel but I wouldn't trade Bean. Would rather offload Griff and/or Conca.
I'd take a chance on Bennell over Stevie J.
Won't take much to get Bwnnell. Suns want him gone, 2nd round pick and a fringe player eg Astbury would get it done IMV
Agree with getting Bennell for a 2nd rounder but I still think Astbury has something to offer and we may need him down back. I still think Conca offers a better trade back to WA for a first rounder too, that may help us out.
Conca isn't going to get you a first rounder this year. So the decision becomes hold or take what you can. I'd keep him myself. Take out his disposal on Sunday he showed mer desperation in a qtr and a bit than most of our other guns showed all game.
Astbury is getting games (rightly) but would be perfect to a number of teams. He has currency. To get anything of value you trade those who have currency.
If getting a Bennell or Treloar means parting with Astbury, then you do it, no ifs, buts or maybes.
Yes you would part with him to get Treloar or Bennell, I agree, but not just for the sake of it or for a Yarran. I still think Conca is a card we could use.
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Yes you would part with him to get Treloar or Bennell, I agree, but not just for the sake of it or for a Yarran. I still think Conca is a card we could use.
So WAT, over in WA do you think a Conca/Lycett deal is possible?
Same age, Conca 50 games more. Conca from WA. Lycett from SA/Vic border. Lycett behind NicNat and Sinclair.
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Agreed that Conca had more desperation when he came on than nearly all the others put together.However his disposal is horrible,and on that basis alone I would trade him.its a tough decision but we need make some.
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Yes you would part with him to get Treloar or Bennell, I agree, but not just for the sake of it or for a Yarran. I still think Conca is a card we could use.
So WAT, over in WA do you think a Conca/Lycett deal is possible?
Same age, Conca 50 games more. Conca from WA. Lycett from SA/Vic border. Lycett behind NicNat and Sinclair.
Don't know mate, I haven't lived there for 5 years.. :thumbsup
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Yes you would part with him to get Treloar or Bennell, I agree, but not just for the sake of it or for a Yarran. I still think Conca is a card we could use.
So WAT, over in WA do you think a Conca/Lycett deal is possible?
Same age, Conca 50 games more. Conca from WA. Lycett from SA/Vic border. Lycett behind NicNat and Sinclair.
Don't know mate, I haven't lived there for 5 years.. :thumbsup
Oops. Thanks for the reply anyway
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I haven't heard this myself but apparently its being reported that the Tigers have added Griff to the early picks for Treloar.
Can anyone confirm this report?
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Well, if we get Bennell, I hope we can keep his bs under control, or he can keep his bs under control...
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Griffiths has to be traded. No ifs or buts. I love Big Ben. But we have a heap of tall forwards. McBean and McKenzie coming through we need to move him on and put his currency elsewhere.
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I haven't heard this myself but apparently its being reported that the Tigers have added Griff to the early picks for Treloar.
Can anyone confirm this report?
I can't see Dimma offing Griffiths tbh. Obviously has big wraps on him to bring him in for a final underdone. Sure he didn't perform, but Dimma isn't silly enough to think there wasn't a chance that'd happen. Then again I'm purely guessing
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I haven't heard this myself but apparently its being reported that the Tigers have added Griff to the early picks for Treloar.
Can anyone confirm this report?
I can't see Dimma offing Griffiths tbh. Obviously has big wraps on him to bring him in for a final underdone. Sure he didn't perform, but Dimma isn't silly enough to think there wasn't a chance that'd happen. Then again I'm purely guessing
Griff had an absolute shocker BUT had played only 1 game in 9 weeks and no game in 6. Hardly had the chance to regain match fitness and touch. My beef with him really now is his durability. I'm happy to trade him if he gets us a gun player but not for a nothing pick.
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agree on griffiths, although the things i was calling him with his early shots on goal suggested he has a clit rather than a nose.
Conca also has played barely any footy all year, let alone senior and none for quite a while.
To put players with such a recent game history into a finals game they need to be experienced and proven top line players.
Both these players played as youd expect young players lacking match conditioning would in an intense finals game.
The decision to pick 1 would be stupid but two just defies comprehension and should be layed wholey and squarely at the feet of those that made the decision
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Has Hampton been brought up yet, may compliment our backline??
GREATER Western Sydney defender Curtly Hampton has joined teammates Adam Treloar and Cam McCarthy in requesting to be traded out of the club.
It was just a week ago the sought-after Treloar officially named Collingwood as his preferred home for 2016 and beyond.
Then McCarthy followed suit at the end of the week, but while the Giants have agreed to work on shifting Treloar, they've "categorically rejected" McCarthy’s request.
Season review: Greater Western Sydney
Now, Hampton wants out after spending much of this season in the NEAFL.
The 22-year-old is contracted for another year but wants more senior opportunities after seemingly struggling to bounce back from a shoulder injury last year.
A former Northern Territory zone selection, Hampton hurt his shoulder in round 12 against Essendon last season and has played just six AFL games since.
"The club understands Curtly’s desire to seek greater playing opportunities and will do its best to help facilitate a suitable trade," the Giants said on Tuesday night.
Hampton, from Alice Springs, has played 51 AFL games and was moved from attack into defence in the middle of the 2012 season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-15/giant-hampton-seeks-trade-for-more-opportunities
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Has Hampton been brought up yet, may compliment our backline??
GREATER Western Sydney defender Curtly Hampton has joined teammates Adam Treloar and Cam McCarthy in requesting to be traded out of the club.
It was just a week ago the sought-after Treloar officially named Collingwood as his preferred home for 2016 and beyond.
Then McCarthy followed suit at the end of the week, but while the Giants have agreed to work on shifting Treloar, they've "categorically rejected" McCarthy’s request.
Season review: Greater Western Sydney
Now, Hampton wants out after spending much of this season in the NEAFL.
The 22-year-old is contracted for another year but wants more senior opportunities after seemingly struggling to bounce back from a shoulder injury last year.
A former Northern Territory zone selection, Hampton hurt his shoulder in round 12 against Essendon last season and has played just six AFL games since.
"The club understands Curtly’s desire to seek greater playing opportunities and will do its best to help facilitate a suitable trade," the Giants said on Tuesday night.
Hampton, from Alice Springs, has played 51 AFL games and was moved from attack into defence in the middle of the 2012 season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-15/giant-hampton-seeks-trade-for-more-opportunities
Sounds exactly like a Blair Hartley Special this one. Undervalued and out of plain sight. Would be a ripper for us.
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^^^ Imagine if he was as good as Miles.. :o
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Zac Smith is looking for a new home in 2016.
Prefers melbourne and wants to be the number 1 ruck.
worth a shot?
Also Daniel Gorringe wants to be traded, originally from SA but could develop into number 1?
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^^^ Imagine if he was as good as Miles.. :o
Lol just saw he's been heavily linked to collingwood already on some dumb footy fb page. Imagine their supporters just sitting around making rumors for the sake of it
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^^^ Imagine if he was as good as Miles.. :o
Lol just saw he's been heavily linked to collingwood already on some dumb footy fb page. Imagine their supporters just sitting around making rumors for the sake of it
:lol......they are getting every player, no doubt very soon they will be linked to people in the NFL, EPL, NRL, NASCAR, Aus Cricket Team.....etc....
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Zac Smith is looking for a new home in 2016.
Prefers melbourne and wants to be the number 1 ruck.
worth a shot?
Also Daniel Gorringe wants to be traded, originally from SA but could develop into number 1?
Smith depends if he is mentally over his knee injury. How would you even figure that out? :lol He's looked soft this year but good in the past.
Gorringe is poo and a poo bloke apparently too.
Curtly Hampton would be a good get I think. Had a bad year so would be undervalued.
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Well, if we get Bennell, I hope we can keep his bs under control, or he can keep his bs under control...
Dude had nearly 40 touches first game back. Seems like good preparation for him. Hope he keeps it up. :lol
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Gold Coast's Daniel Gorringe has requested a trade with 3 clubs circling.
Gold Coast's Zac Smith is requesting a trade.
Former Geelong player Mitch Brown is reportedly wanted by Essendon.
Carlton's Tom Bell is more than likely going to land up at Brisbane next year.
Jack Watts has now said he wants to stay at Melbourne, however, the club may still want to get rid of him.
Gold Coast are considering a move for Brisbane's Jed Adcock.
Curtly Hampton has nominated Adelaide as his preferred club of choice.
Carlton want GWS player Lachie Plowman who now wants to come back to Victoria.
https://twitter.com/AFLTrade/with_replies
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Get smith
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Carlton want GWS player Lachie Plowman who now wants to come back to Victoria.
We should go for him. He'd be an upgrade on Batch (WAT :shh)
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Get smith
This. :pray
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YR; A thimble would be an upgrade on Batch mate.. :snidegrin
And still, no one is linked to the RFC except for Yarran.. :banghead. When I said this same thing last year all the nuffers chirped in saying give it time, wait for the end of the trade period, the RFC have something up their sleeves..etc... and we ended up with NOTHING.. Well it's happening again folkes!!!! :banghead :banghead
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Clearly then the club had fresh air up their sleeves, we just failed to see it once it was revealed :shh
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Clearly then the club had fresh air up their sleeves, we just failed to see it once it was revealed :shh
We saw it, it was a big fat stuff all.. :help
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Clearly then the club had fresh air up their sleeves, we just failed to see it once it was revealed :shh
We saw it, it was a big fat stuff all.. :help
:'(
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YR; A thimble would be an upgrade on Batch mate.. :snidegrin
And still, no one is linked to the RFC except for Yarran.. :banghead. When I said this same thing last year all the nuffers chirped in saying give it time, wait for the end of the trade period, the RFC have something up their sleeves..etc... and we ended up with NOTHING.. Well it's happening again folkes!!!! :banghead :banghead
we had a lot up our sleeves mate trengrove who didn't play all year and winderlich who played 1 game all year hahaha great pick ups they would have been telling you something no idea :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Clearly then the club had fresh air up their sleeves, we just failed to see it once it was revealed :shh
We saw it, it was a big fat stuff all.. :help
Hasn't happened yet... Its the same every year player 1 is going to club 2 etc etc... Then only about a 1/3 of all the twaddle comes true.
All we can do is pray they do better than last year, but looking at Hunt it couldn't get much worse.
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Clearly then the club had fresh air up their sleeves, we just failed to see it once it was revealed :shh
We saw it, it was a big fat stuff all.. :help
Hasn't happened yet... Its the same every year player 1 is going to club 2 etc etc... Then only about a 1/3 of all the twaddle comes true.
All we can do is pray they do better than last year, but looking at Hunt it couldn't get much worse.
Yeah and whatever happens every year we end up with nothing!!!!! The other clubs end up with more and the crazy RFC supporters believe the crap they are fed, bar some of us who actually follow their crap trades!!! EVERY YEAR!!!
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YR; A thimble would be an upgrade on Batch mate.. :snidegrin
And still, no one is linked to the RFC except for Yarran.. :banghead. When I said this same thing last year all the nuffers chirped in saying give it time, wait for the end of the trade period, the RFC have something up their sleeves..etc... and we ended up with NOTHING.. Well it's happening again folkes!!!! :banghead :banghead
we had a lot up our sleeves mate trengrove who didn't play all year and winderlich who played 1 game all year hahaha great pick ups they would have been telling you something no idea :banghead :banghead :banghead
You can harp on Winderlich all you want, have fun with that. But don't hold Trengrove against them. Only reason the dude didn't play all year was because we were the ones that picked up on his foot. We did the right thing and checked him out and pied him off when we realised he was shot
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YR; A thimble would be an upgrade on Batch mate.. :snidegrin
And still, no one is linked to the RFC except for Yarran.. :banghead. When I said this same thing last year all the nuffers chirped in saying give it time, wait for the end of the trade period, the RFC have something up their sleeves..etc... and we ended up with NOTHING.. Well it's happening again folkes!!!! :banghead :banghead
we had a lot up our sleeves mate trengrove who didn't play all year and winderlich who played 1 game all year hahaha great pick ups they would have been telling you something no idea :banghead :banghead :banghead
You can harp on Winderlich all you want, have fun with that. But don't hold Trengrove against them. Only reason the dude didn't play all year was because we were the ones that picked up on his foot. We did the right thing and checked him out and pied him off when we realised he was shot
Should look at him again this year, he's out of contract and may be even cheaper ;)
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Check his foot again and if all clear I'd have a punt with a second rounder
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Melbourne should be barred from trading just to save themselves from themselves and to stop giving other clubs charity in return. Who in their right mind would offer Melksham 4 years at $400k p.a :o :lol.
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I don't believe this trade will eventuate as I don't think any club can be that dumb.
These sort of stupid decisions are normally reserved for Blair and his mates.
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YR; A thimble would be an upgrade on Batch mate.. :snidegrin
And still, no one is linked to the RFC except for Yarran.. :banghead. When I said this same thing last year all the nuffers chirped in saying give it time, wait for the end of the trade period, the RFC have something up their sleeves..etc... and we ended up with NOTHING.. Well it's happening again folkes!!!! :banghead :banghead
we had a lot up our sleeves mate trengrove who didn't play all year and winderlich who played 1 game all year hahaha great pick ups they would have been telling you something no idea :banghead :banghead :banghead
You can harp on Winderlich all you want, have fun with that. But don't hold Trengrove against them. Only reason the dude didn't play all year was because we were the ones that picked up on his foot. We did the right thing and checked him out and pied him off when we realised he was shot
But I want to scream and shout like a little bitch about the RFC doing nothing, how can I do that with those truthful comments
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
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Hamish Hartlett. :shh
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hamish fits the criteria. Grigg, Hunt, Trengrove, Winderlick etc
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hamish fits the criteria. Grigg, Hunt, Trengrove, Winderlick etc
Yeah.....except Hartlett's actually a good player and proven finals performer.
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Bombers apparently asking for Howe AND a FIRST round draft pick for Melksham. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
They have absolutely lost the plot. However bad its been over the last week barracking for us, thank Geez we don't support that mob. Although knowing Melbourne they'll probably chuck in Viney for good measure.
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
are you ignorant to the fact that typing in all capitals is the eqivilant of shouting, or actually that rude?
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
are you ignorant to the fact that typing in all capitals is the eqivilant of shouting, or actually that rude?
Some punctuation and comma's may have improved readability as well.
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
are you ignorant to the fact that typing in all capitals is the eqivilant of shouting, or actually that rude?
..and makes one look like a halfwit....
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
are you ignorant to the fact that typing in all capitals is the eqivilant of shouting, or actually that rude?
..and makes one look like a halfwit....
Different kind of 'wit' if you ask me
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HAVE A LOOK AT TRENGROOVE UR KIDDING RIGHT HIS PLAYED WHAT GAMES IN 2 YEARS YEAH THATS A PUNT I WANT TO TAKE ON BUT PEOPLE ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE A PUNT ON BENNELL COME ON WAKE UP TO URSLEFS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TRENGROVE HAS DONE STUFF ALL WHEN HE HAS PLAYED BENNELL COULD BE ANYTHING
are you ignorant to the fact that typing in all capitals is the eqivilant of shouting, or actually that rude?
..and makes one look like a halfwit....
Different kind of 'wit' if you ask me
Dim?? :lol :shh, Half, :scream Stuff :banghead, and the other one :cheers
But I do want to explore the Bennell option
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I suppose we know Yarran is heading our way and maybe Bennell, but gee, how the hell can these other clubs be linked to so many players, particularly the clubs that you would think have no cap room left. I mean how can the Pies have sewn up Treloar and now they are in the box seat for Aish. I mean really. We should also be going hell for leather for a ruckman out of this lot and we are not. What the hell are we doing, seriously we need a ruckman (Smith), Aish or Redden and Bennel. But all the other teams are going hard and we are sitting in the corner jacking off... :banghead
Can someone paste the story please, I have just downloaded iOS 9 and its..... :huh
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-18/trade-whispers-the-inside-word-on-the-players-looking-for-a-move
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Nah couldn't be stuffed
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Nah couldn't be stuffed
:lol
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THE SYDNEY Swans' chances of securing Brisbane Lions ruckman Matthew Leuenberger have received a boost with the trade restrictions on the Sydney Swans to be eased.
Securing the free agent's signature has become a race in three with the Swans understood to be competing with Essendon and Fremantle however Leuenberger is not expected to make a decision on his future until after the finals.
Peter Ryan on the Lions' big trade questions
With his departure almost certain, the Lions declared the contracted Stefan Martin off-limits this week and are expected to play hard-ball with any contracted players who want out.
Collingwood remains the favourite to win Lion James Aish's signature but some rival clubs suspect Hawthorn could yet swoop in late to snare the on-baller.
Aish is yet to inform the Lions that he wants a trade, but equally has given no indication that he is about to sign the three-year contract the club has had on the table for much of this year.
Speculation is that one of Aish's suitors is still participating in the finals.
In a year when ruckmen appear in demand, Matthew Kreuzer looks more certain to stick with the Blues under new coach Brendon Bolton.
Gold Coast's Zac Smith visited Melbourne this week and met with Geelong and Essendon, but also remains on the radar of the Sydney Swans.
The ruckman seems likely to leave Metricon Stadium after Tom Nicholls established himself as the Suns' No.1 ruckman this year, but he is yet to inform Gold Coast that he wants a trade.
However, Seb Tape is close to re-signing with the Suns, with the parties finalising the details of a new deal.
A nightmare run of knee and hamstring injuries has limited Tape to 14 senior games in the past three seasons, but Gold Coast has not lost faith in 2010's No.13 draft pick.
Fremantle and Richmond have emerged as early contenders in the chase for Harley Bennell.
It is believed the Dockers met with Bennell last weekend while he was in Perth but up to five Victorian clubs are understood to be doing their due diligence on the prodigiously talented 22-year-old.
Gold Coast's initial asking price could be two first-round draft picks, which could include a 2016 pick under the new futures trading rules, but Bennell's true market worth is unlikely to emerge until rivals start to make firm offers.
The Suns will look to add experience to the line-up during the trade period but are yet to consider the potential options in detail with the value realised from the Bennell and Charlie Dixon trades still unknown.
Hawthorn's discussions with Ryan Schoenmakers are understood to be positive, but the swingman's performances in the finals could shed further light on his value.
The Western Bulldogs are understood to have offered Michael Talia a new two-year deal, but the key defender is yet to recommit and has been linked with a possible move to join elder brother Daniel at Adelaide.
Although St Kilda and Carlton have emerged as the most ardent suitors of Bomber Jake Carlisle, rival clubs believe the Bulldogs could yet re-enter the race for the key defender if Talia decides to leave.
However AFL.com.au understands the Bulldogs have not changed their initial decision not to pursue Carlisle.
Out-of-contract Port Adelaide utility Andrew Moore will explore opportunities at rival clubs after playing just five senior games this season despite outstanding form in the SANFL. The No.9 pick in the 2009 national draft is a Victorian, but won't necessarily seek a move back to his home state.
Moore's Power teammate John Butcher should remain at Alberton Oval in 2016, with Port likely to offer the key forward a new one-year deal.
The future of unrestricted free agent Jarrad Grant remains up in the air.
The tall forward enjoyed a solid 2015 season, playing 19 senior games, but the Western Bulldogs have yet to offer him a new contract and a firm rival suitor is yet to emerge.
Port Adelaide spearhead Jay Schulz remains in contract limbo, as he continues to consider an offer from the Power and a more lucrative two-year deal with Fremantle.
Schulz's decision is complicated by Port's pursuit of Charlie Dixon and Fremantle's desire to lure contracted Greater Western Sydney forward Cameron McCarthy home.
Port Adelaide remains in the box seat to land Dixon in the trade period, however will likely have to offer more than their first-round draft pick, currently No.10, to satisfy the Suns.
Fremantle remain long odds to snare McCarthy this year, with the Giants adamant they expect the key forward to honour the final two years of his contract, however what the Dockers might offer remains to be seen.
Rival clubs remain confident Scott Selwood will join brother and Geelong captain Joel at Simonds Stadium next year despite recent speculation the West Coast vice-captain was set to re-sign with the Eagles.
The Eagles announced on Friday they had re-signed experienced defender Sam Butler but there remained no word on Selwood's future.
The Eagles are hopeful Lewis Jetta will return to West Australia and haven't ruled out Lions' midfielder Jack Redden although satisfying the Lions' demands might be difficult. If Selwood does leave, the potential to do a deal with the Lions might depend on the compensation received.
Talented Geelong midfielder Jarrad Jansen is also understood to be interested in a trade to obtain senior opportunities. The inside midfielder was in good form at the Cats but could not push past Joel Selwood, Josh Caddy, Cam Guthrie or George Horlin-Smith.
The Cats also re-signed veteran Jimmy Bartel on a one-year deal that will keep him at the club in 2016 and most still expect Lachie Henderson to end up at Geelong.
Out-of-contract Collingwood runner Paul Seedsman could find a new home in 2016, with North Melbourne, Brisbane Lions and Adelaide all believed to be interested in the defender/wingman.
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Thanks mate, see what I mean!!😡😡
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LOL
circus
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truer words you have not uttered, joseph
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If it's not reported in the media, did it even happen :shh
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If it's not reported in the media, did it even happen :shh
Is that someone else's philosophic statement, if so we will need a link please
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I dont understand why Dangerfield would go to Geelong, especially if he wants success. Maybe he doesn't want any?
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maybe he doesnt....
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If it's not reported in the media, did it even happen :shh
Is that someone else's philosophic statement, if so we will need a link please
Nope, all mine
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Give Carlton a second round pick and either Batchelor/Astbury/Griffiths.
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Give Carlton a second round pick and either Batchelor/Astbury/Griffiths.
This, but leave Astbury as the very very last resort.
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Yarran is barely worth a 3rd rounder
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spot on HRT but a second is a happy medium. My brother is filthy even with lennon included, and given what transpired with betts and co they will play hardball so start saying your goodbyes to lennon, astbury and hopefully blair and hackson also.
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If Lennon goes it will be the worst decision the club has made since the Tambling debacle and the many more including Pavlich... :banghead
We cannot let this happen, do we need a petition....??
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If Lennon goes it will be the worst decision the club has made since the Tambling debacle and the many more including Pavlich... :banghead
We cannot let this happen, do we need a petition....??
Really
Only played 9 games this year
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spot on HRT but a second is a happy medium. My brother is filthy even with lennon included, and given what transpired with betts and co they will play hardball so start saying your goodbyes to lennon, astbury and hopefully blair and hackson also.
Agree no more than our 2nd round pick, throw in our 3rd pick in next year's draft and that's it.
Alternatively, Astbury and our 2nd rd pick in next year's draft.
No more, defiantly not worth our 1st round pick
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If Lennon goes it will be the worst decision the club has made since the Tambling debacle and the many more including Pavlich... :banghead
We cannot let this happen, do we need a petition....??
Really
Only played 9 games this year
Yes and will only play 200 in the next 10 years......anyone who can't see the sheer talent of the kid is a fool ....we can only hope that doesn't include those currently running the club...
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Give Carlton a second round pick and either Batchelor/Astbury/Griffiths.
Far too much imho. 2nd rounder and no more.
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If Lennon goes it will be the worst decision the club has made since the Tambling debacle and the many more including Pavlich... :banghead
We cannot let this happen, do we need a petition....??
Really
Only played 9 games this year
Whose fault is that Jack? Come on he should have played most games if we have a coach with eyes
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Exactly...it's not rocket surgery...
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I think Lennon is extremely talented. However, we cannot have the tail wagging the dog at the club. If he wants to leave because of that, let him leave. Sooks should not be tolerated. We can't kowtow to a second year player no matter how good he is.
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If sooks shouldn't be tolerated then why are we bringing in Yarran? Who, btw, is not 19 anymore but 24, nearly 25 and still sooking it up.
Would also suggest that Yarran not trying in matches is a hell of a lot worse form of sooking it up than what Lennon is allegedly doing.
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However, we cannot have the tail wagging the dog at the club.
On that topic, I wonder who Ivan Maric is going to bring into the club this year. First Knights then his cousin. We're due
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
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Surely before Lennon the club would be offering up Grigg, Batch, Conca, Griff, Dea and as a very last resort Astbury.
Lennon cant go, he is 19 years old, a round 1 pick and he has shown his capabilities already, with a full pre-season this kid will be on fire come round 1.
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
Yeah but the supposed 12 have no currency
Lennon has currency
There in lies the problem
Can't trade what no one wants
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However, we cannot have the tail wagging the dog at the club.
On that topic, I wonder who Ivan Maric is going to bring into the club this year. First Knights then his cousin. We're due
You are drawing a very long bow with Knights. Have you got any proof that Maric forced the club to get him? If you have, put it out there or all you are doing is creating vicious rumours that are false. With his cousin too, he may have suggested them to rookie him but I highly doubt that he blackmailed the club into doing it. Lennon is blackmailing the club from what the rumours are saying wanting more money before he signs. That is what I'm saying about the tail wagging the dog.
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interesting points folks..I believe Lennon has a future at RFC,however most of the good folk I sit with dismiss him
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If sooks shouldn't be tolerated then why are we bringing in Yarran? Who, btw, is not 19 anymore but 24, nearly 25 and still sooking it up.
Would also suggest that Yarran not trying in matches is a hell of a lot worse form of sooking it up than what Lennon is allegedly doing.
They are completely different situations. Yarran is a former number 6 pick. His club has been an abomination with sacking coaches. Despite averaging 16 possessions a game he was dropped to the magoos. He's also given them 6-7 years of service. Lennon is still in nappies. He has not given enough service to the club who took him in front of Cripps. He still owes the club for giving him an opportunity. He is not entitled to behave like this at this point in his career.
Look I don't want to lose a guy like Lennon who oozes talent. But if he is behaving like this now, I'm afraid he'll just walk as a FA to the highest bidder if and when he gets to that stage. I hope we are all wrong and he is happy and stays at tigerland.
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
Yeah but the supposed 12 have no currency
Lennon has currency
There in lies the problem
Can't trade what no one wants
I would trade Grigg, Conca, Griff and Dea before Lennon, make the Blues take our lower group of players for change.
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
Yeah but the supposed 12 have no currency
Lennon has currency
There in lies the problem
Can't trade what no one wants
Surely we'd get a 2nd rounder for grigg and cHappy
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
Yeah but the supposed 12 have no currency
Lennon has currency
There in lies the problem
Can't trade what no one wants
Surely we'd get a 2nd rounder for grigg and cHappy
What would you give for Yarran if you reckon those two players (who you always bring up as being spuds) are worth a second rounder
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The club is in no position to trade out a kid with huge potential and untried.
There is 12 players who are older and less upside than Lennon.
No1 is untraceable but if Lennon is part of a trade involving Yarran it better be a top 18 pick as well.
Yeah but the supposed 12 have no currency
Lennon has currency
There in lies the problem
Can't trade what no one wants
that theory is bullocks. We coughed up 32 for hampson, cats paid 20 odd for stanley.
dont be fooled into thinking what other clubs would pay. one mans trash...
Chap bents aint worth a pinch of salt, and grigg well lets hope his days are numbered but he would def get us a second rounder in a shallow draft with a GC type.
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
To me it would be early first round picks or future picks for the former.
Players to fill holes for the latter.
I reckon that will be the going rate.
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
Aish has nominated collingwood according to AFL trade, draft and fee agency news :thumbsdown
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
Aish has nominated collingwood according to AFL trade, draft and fee agency news :thumbsdown
Who hasn't nominated Collingwood apparently :banghead....they will win the GF next year at this rate.
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
Aish has nominated collingwood according to AFL trade, draft and fee agency news :thumbsdown
Not true it appears - from Twitter
@zzaratam: @RalphyHeraldSun @TomBrowne7 @barrettdamian SEN reporting Aish has requested trade to pies? Any truth to this?
@RalphyHeraldSun: No. Lions still waiting on Aish & hopeful he stays as recently as this arvo. No request from him to go yet https://t.co/0WTNBI3gVj
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Iam hoping we are not into Yarran.
How many soft outside bums do we want. The bloke doesn't know what a clearance or contested possession is. He doesnt kick many goals even when played as a forward. He hardly knows what a tackle looks like and quite frankly he just doesn't get enough ball. We have a seven year history to judge him by and there is no way on the planet i would want to see us offer up a first round pick for this bloke.
Fair dinkum people see the razzle dazzle and forget to look for the substance. And thats the problem, outside of his pace and some running of the lines with the odd bounce there is little else to his game.
Surely people realise we have greater needs to fix than going hard for yet another softie who goes missing when the going gets tough.. In fact players of this type is the last thing we need.
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correct claw!
Its a done deal and the best we can hope for is we cough up a second at best, but we all know this is not going to happen.
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Iam hoping we are not into Yarran.
How many soft outside bums do we want. The bloke doesn't know what a clearance or contested possession is. He doesnt kick many goals even when played as a forward. He hardly knows what a tackle looks like and quite frankly he just doesn't get enough ball. We have a seven year history to judge him by and there is no way on the planet i would want to see us offer up a first round pick for this bloke.
Fair dinkum people see the razzle dazzle and forget to look for the substance. And thats the problem, outside of his pace and some running of the lines with the odd bounce there is little else to his game.
Surely people realise we have greater needs to fix than going hard for yet another softie who goes missing when the going gets tough.. In fact players of this type is the last thing we need.
What do you say to a second round pick though? Reckon that'd be okay if played as a small forward we desperately need.
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That's pretty big
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Stuffing gimantus
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You could surf on it..
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how does he walk?
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The only trade for Lennon I would accept is; Lennon for Treloar or Aish.
Aish has nominated collingwood according to AFL trade, draft and fee agency news :thumbsdown
Not true it appears - from Twitter
@zzaratam: @RalphyHeraldSun @TomBrowne7 @barrettdamian SEN reporting Aish has requested trade to pies? Any truth to this?
@RalphyHeraldSun: No. Lions still waiting on Aish & hopeful he stays as recently as this arvo. No request from him to go yet https://t.co/0WTNBI3gVj
:clapping Great
Reckon pies are really after Danger and throwing all these names up to cloud it.
No doubt they'd be happy with Treloar but Danger would significantly boost anyone's team especially theirs
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At the end of the day there probably isnt much difference between Yarran and Matty White
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wat
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At the end of the day there probably isnt much difference between Yarran and Matty White
Actually there is
And it's a glaring one
Never walked away from a game thinking Matty White didn't have a go, a dip, gave his all
Certainly can't say the same thing about Yarran, been a huge sook for the last 2 seasons
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heres another one
Yarren is about four times more talented
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Yarran is black
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another difference with yarran is that he has been tagged. i know that when we have played carlton in the past he is one that we have put time into. he wouldn't get the same attention in our side and if he did it would free up houli. can't have enough damaging players in your team. its just what we have to give up for him is the question !!!!!!!
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Yarran is black
And White is.....
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Yarran is black
And White is.....
Crap
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Yarran is black
And White is.....
Crap
another difference with yarran is that he has been tagged.
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Yarran is black
And White is.....
Crap
:lol
and here i was think "getting rid of white" was one the greatest list management blunders of all time :whistle
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SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.
Adelaide and Melbourne are enquiring about Port Adelaide's Hamish Hartlett as they look to free up salary cap space according to 3AW.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Interesting to see we are into anything and everything available.
Lets just wait and see on October 31 what our list will look like pre draft. ;D
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SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5403528-3x4-700x933.jpg)
2013:
A prolific ball winner, Crouch joined his older brother, Brad, at Adelaide with pick No.23 in the National Draft. The tough midfielder averaged 37 disposals (16 contested), seven clearances and five tackles in seven TAC Cup games in 2013. The left-footer also represented Victoria Country at the Under-18 National Championships, and travelled to Europe as part of the AIS-AFL Academy squad.
2014:
Debuted in 2014. Crouch made an immediate impact in his first year of senior football. The ball magnet made his AFL debut in Round Three and retained his spot for the next five weeks, notching eight games in total for the year. Crouch earned a NAB Rising Star nomination in Round Five against GWS, despite being subbed out. Dominated at state league level with an average of 33 possessions and eight clearances across 10 matches, and polled 12 votes on Magarey Medal night.
2015:
Averaged 21 disposals in 17 games this year.
http://www.afc.com.au/player-profile/matthew-crouch
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Matt Crouch makes Castagna's kicking look like laser guided bullets..... :whistle
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"Footskills will be a priority" - RFC RECRUITING DEPT. 2012
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"Footskills will be a priority" - RFC RECRUITING DEPT. 2012
Unless their all going to the Scum in which will take whoever we can get and if they can't hit the side of a barn then bad luck
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Matt Crouch makes Castagna's kicking look like laser guided bullets..... :whistle
No it doesn't
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Matt Crouch makes Castagna's kicking look like laser guided bullets..... :whistle
No it doesn't
It's not good. Go watch their last final and get back to me.....
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Looks like they're after midfield grunt
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Wayne they have been after midfield grunt for quite some time now,and rightly so.Our midfiled bar Miles was garbage in the final.
Actually garbage is maybe too mild a word
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Very true. However our midfield also gets crucified by the fact that ruckmen like Goldstein or Nic Nat monster Maric and give our guys very little chance of getting a clean clearance.
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Agreed Y&B our ruck stocks although adequate until now,need to be overhauled or at least have some quality added to them
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If lycett from WC was avail , he s the one we should go for . Doesn't get a game behind nicnat and Sinclair
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-photoshopped-in-different-club-jumpers-by-reddit-user/story-fnia3v70-1227538251812
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-photoshopped-in-different-club-jumpers-by-reddit-user/story-fnia3v70-1227538251812
Carlton one is the best.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-photoshopped-in-different-club-jumpers-by-reddit-user/story-fnia3v70-1227538251812
Had to chuckle at the Swans one, so apt
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-photoshopped-in-different-club-jumpers-by-reddit-user/story-fnia3v70-1227538251812
Carlton one is the best.
Yep! :lol
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According to Brett Anderson on SEN radio today, we have been linked to Hamish Hartlett from Port and have offered a 5-6 year deal.
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:birthday :birthday :birthday
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Anyone know much about Hamish?
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It's his birthday?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Fish
another blair special
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well, theres another trade done and dusted
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Fish
another blair special
Not really...Hartlett's actually a pretty good player....
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Hartlett would be a good get.
But I can't help but feel like we're all getting fired up for nothing over this trade talk.
We don't know poo yet, and nor do the journos.
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Not going to get blokes out of contract without giving up too much so why bother??
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Hartlett........get it done! :birthday
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Not going to get blokes out of contract without giving up too much so why bother??
Restricted or free agent??
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From Twitter
@theafloffseason: North Melbourne and Richmond are offering Port Adelaide's Hamish Hartlett $750k a season over 5 years according to Tony Sheahan.
good 'ole Tony Sheahan, make it of it what you like
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whats with north going for every player we are after???
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Hartlett goes good
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I'm just trying to connect the dots with Collingwood.
At the time they mentioned Hamish Hartlett they also mentioned collingwood Freeman to saints for either and early 2nd round or potentially but not probably a 1st rounder.
Given some are saying Collingwood offer for Treloar has trumped ours as well as Treloar choosing them perhaps it's more than 2 picks they're offering?
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Hartlett = Very good = Trade Morris and 3rd rounder.. :gotigers
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Hartlett = Very good = Trade Morris and 3rd rounder.. :gotigers
Hartlettt is worth more than that, a lot more
Elite foot skills, great footy smarts. Would require a decent player and early pick to get him
Only thing in anyone's favour is Port need to offload him for salary cap reasons
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Hartlett = Very good = Trade Morris and 3rd rounder.. :gotigers
Hartlettt is worth more than that, a lot more
Elite foot skills, great footy smarts. Would require a decent player and early pick to get him
Only thing in anyone's favour is Port need to offload him for salary cap reasons
Not being facetious but what would you consider a decent player or even deal ?
First rounder +
or player + 2nd rounder
etc
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Player & 2nd round pick
Eg B Ellis & 2nd round pick
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Player & 2nd round pick
Eg B Ellis & 2nd round pick
Port won't want an established player. They need cap space for Dixon. Will want a first round for sure.
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OK so whilst absolutely nothing is certain, in the off season we my add.
Hartlett, Yarran, Bennell and a ruckman.(Matthew Lobbe)
may trade out some players obviously.
Does that look realistic? That's probably the most credible we've been linked to.
Reckon we'd have to give up this year's 1st rounder plus next year's 1st plus an early 2nd rounder and a quality player
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OK so whilst absolutely nothing is certain, in the off season we my add.
Hartlett, Yarran, Bennell and a ruckman.(Matthew Lobbe)
may trade out some players obviously.
Does that look realistic? That's probably the most credible we've been linked to.
Reckon we'd have to give up this year's 1st rounder plus next year's 1st plus an early 2nd rounder and a quality player
:shh
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OK so whilst absolutely nothing is certain, in the off season we my add.
Hartlett, Yarran, Bennell and a ruckman.(Matthew Lobbe)
may trade out some players obviously.
Does that look realistic? That's probably the most credible we've been linked to.
Reckon we'd have to give up this year's 1st rounder plus next year's 1st plus an early 2nd rounder and a quality player
:shh
:shh :shh
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I reckon HB is a lock.
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I reckon HB is a lock.
Just got a feeling??
Hartlett, Bennell and Yarran is an excellent trade week scenario. Get it done Tiges :thumbsup :thumbsup
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Fish
another blair special
Not really...Hartlett's actually a pretty good player....
Not convinced. Is he durable? Not enough for what is reported.
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Hartlett = Very good = Trade Morris and 3rd rounder.. :gotigers
Er don't think so, providing he can stay fit. This one is a GUN.
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Hartlett = Very good = Trade Morris and 3rd rounder.. :gotigers
Morris would have next to no trade value. If that ended up being the scenario we should through BH and FJ a parade :cheers
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Sorry, my Morris comment was more.. :whistle
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Port Adelaide midfielder Hamish Hartlett has a lot to think about in the coming weeks after multiple clubs have offered him lucrative long-term deals to leave the Power, says Brett Anderson.
The fourth pick from the 2008 draft has developed into a reliable contributor for Ken Hinkley and at 25 would be considered a player for the future.
Furthermore, rumours that the Power will struggle to keep their stars due to a full salary cap are not true, which means players like Hartlett will not be squeezed out.
“Hamish Hartlett’s name was raised over the weekend with Adelaide and Melbourne,” said Anderson on SEN radio.
“Now, he’s a very much-required player at Port Adelaide next year but he is a free agent at the end of next year.
“My understanding is that Richmond and North Melbourne have got long-term deals in front of him on quite a big figure.
“We’re talking five or six-year deals.”
http://www.sen.com.au/news/09-15/trade-sentral-hartlett-astbury-carlisle
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GET IT DONE TIGERS💸💸💸💰💰💰
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Q. Is Harley Bennell Richmond's only chance of landing a big fish this trade period after missing out on Danger, Trelor and Motlop?
Jay Clark: Expect Tigers to also sniff around the ruck stocks. They have an interest in Matty Kreuzer.
Q. Any word on what Aish is going to do? He has been quiet. I suspect he is going to Hawks. What do you think Jay?
Jay Clark: As of yesterday. Aish still weighing things up. I think he would prefer to get to Pies, but there is no guarantee that deal can be done. So if not Pies, Aish definitely considering staying. It has been reported Tigers are in the mix but that seems unlikely to me.
http://www.themercury.com.au/brisbane-lions-set-to-recruit-geelongs-jarrad-jansen-eye-other-trade-targets/story-fnj3twbb-1227537514814
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Get Kruezer and Bennell :thumbsup
No Yarran and don't trade Lennon :thumbsup
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$750k/year for Hartlett you must be joking
Bloke is a B grade player with the occasional A grade game.
Worth half a mil tops
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$750k/year for Hartlett you must be joking
Bloke is a B grade player with the occasional A grade game.
Well he definetly suits our criteria then :shh
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Spencer white delisted from Saints. Could thrive in a new club and we all know he has massive potential. Sorta McBean like. would be a good get for our VFL team and could develop.
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Spencer white delisted from Saints. Could thrive in a new club and we all know he has massive potential. Sorta McBean like. would be a good get for our VFL team and could develop.
:nope just :nope
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CARLTON and Geelong are prepared to work on a deal to swap key talls Lachlan Henderson and Josh Walker - with Geelong to sweeten the deal with draft picks.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-carlton-geelong-set-to-swap-lachie-henderson-and-josh-walker/story-fnp04d70-1227539180557?sv=17fe07d7062edf7bedc34abc72757888
By the way, Geelong to offer Dangerfield a six-year deal. An announcement could be as early as today.
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The Hartlett to Richmond rumour from yesterday didn't last long. Hartlett expected now to remain at Port.
HAMISH Hartlett is expected to commit his long-term future to Port Adelaide despite keen interest from rival clubs.
With the Power managing a tight salary cap, there was suggestions the club was vulnerable to losing Hartlett as it looks to accommodate Gold Coast forward Charlie Dixon.
However, Fox Footy understands the 25-year-old is weighing up a new deal that would effectively make him a one-club player.
The lucrative offer is likely to be back ended to help Port Adelaide through its cap squeeze.
Hartlett’s current two-year contract does not expire until 2016, coinciding with his restricted free agency eligibility.
Cross-town rivals Adelaide, in addition to Victorian clubs Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond, have been linked to Hartlett. However, the Demons are not considered a likely destination.
The booming right-foot kick is a key cog in one of the most explosive midfields in the AFL and averaged 22 disposals in 2015.
After battling shoulder injuries early in his career, he has played at least 22 games in each of his past three seasons.
The 185cm midfielder was recruited from West Adelaide with pick four in the 2008 national draft.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-market-watch-hamish-hartlett-to-remain-at-port-adelaide-ben-lennon-in-demand-brisbane-busy/story-e6frf3e3-1227538944136
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Well it's finally official:
Patrick Dangerfield quits Adelaide: Crows star requests trade to Geelong.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-quits-adelaide-crows-star-requests-trade-to-geelong/story-fni5f4l8-1227539968474
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Spencer white delisted from Saints. Could thrive in a new club and we all know he has massive potential. Sorta McBean like. would be a good get for our VFL team and could develop.
Would consider as a rookie along with Siposs.
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Well it's finally official:
Patrick Dangerfield quits Adelaide: Crows star requests trade to Geelong.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-quits-adelaide-crows-star-requests-trade-to-geelong/story-fni5f4l8-1227539968474
He's only stated he wants to return to Victoria, no where has he officialy said he wants to go to Geelong, it's still just media speculation.....
Get it done Tigers!!
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Shame about Hartlett, Danger will go to the Cats..just as Treloar will go the Pies, Aish to the Pies or stay at the Lions, Redden to the Dockers, every other player will go anywhere else other than Richmond... :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
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Adelaide have shown interest in former Demon Mark Jamar as a back up Ruckman to Sam Jacobs according to SEN.
Fremantle have shown interest in Hawthorn's Ryan Schoenmakers according to SEN.
In a tweet that has mentioned Brisbane's James Aish holding off on officially nominating a club due to the possibility that the club in question is still involved in finals, Aish has 'Favorited' it on Twitter. Is this the giveaway that he is Hawthorn-bound?
Brisbane are set to target Hawthorn's Sam Grimley in the upcoming trade period according to Foxsports.
Collingwood's Nathan Freeman has requested a trade to St.Kilda according to SEN. Reports suggest Nathan Freeman wants $300,000 a season!!! Looks like St Kilda will offer their second round pick for him.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://twitter.com/afltrade
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Well it's finally official:
Patrick Dangerfield quits Adelaide: Crows star requests trade to Geelong.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-quits-adelaide-crows-star-requests-trade-to-geelong/story-fni5f4l8-1227539968474
He's only stated he wants to return to Victoria, no where has he officialy said he wants to go to Geelong, it's still just media speculation.....
Get it done Tigers!!
The Cats have offered Dangerfield six years at $800k.
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Well it's finally official:
Patrick Dangerfield quits Adelaide: Crows star requests trade to Geelong.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-quits-adelaide-crows-star-requests-trade-to-geelong/story-fni5f4l8-1227539968474
He's only stated he wants to return to Victoria, no where has he officialy said he wants to go to Geelong, it's still just media speculation.....
Get it done Tigers!!
The Cats have offered Dangerfield six years at $800k.
And Adelaide will almost certainly match it, meaning he'll have to be traded. Don't think he'll be in yellow and black next year :( :(
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don't stress tiger we will still strike with Bennell lets face it if his head is screwed on well then we would have one of the recruites of the year besides danger im thinking he wont cost that much and he has plenty of upside... Sure treloar would have been great but we could get Harley for say 400K 350 less then trealor which allows us to find a couple more. not all bad
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Well it's finally official:
Patrick Dangerfield quits Adelaide: Crows star requests trade to Geelong.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-quits-adelaide-crows-star-requests-trade-to-geelong/story-fni5f4l8-1227539968474
He's only stated he wants to return to Victoria, no where has he officialy said he wants to go to Geelong, it's still just media speculation.....
Get it done Tigers!!
The Cats have offered Dangerfield six years at $800k.
And Adelaide will almost certainly match it, meaning he'll have to be traded. Don't think he'll be in yellow and black next year :( :(
Why do the RFC always let us down :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
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Adam Hartlett @adam_hartlett 7 hours ago
"probably not my place to say, but Port fans don't have anything to worry about..."
https://twitter.com/adam_hartlett/with_replies
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
Dangerfield is a restricted free agent. If Adelaide don't match Geelong's offer then the Cats get him for nothing and Adelaide will receive some compo. On the other hand, the Crows can match the offer to force Dangerfield and Geelong into a trade. Geelong then may be forced to offer up two first round picks from 2015 & 2016.
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
tigers could get him for free :whistle
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Adam Hartlett @adam_hartlett 7 hours ago
"probably not my place to say, but Port fans don't have anything to worry about..."
https://twitter.com/adam_hartlett/with_replies
Wtf does that translate to?
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Adam Hartlett @adam_hartlett 7 hours ago
"probably not my place to say, but Port fans don't have anything to worry about..."
https://twitter.com/adam_hartlett/with_replies
Wtf does that translate to?
Hartlett not coming to Richmond. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Adam Hartlett @adam_hartlett 7 hours ago
"probably not my place to say, but Port fans don't have anything to worry about..."
https://twitter.com/adam_hartlett/with_replies
Wtf does that translate to?
Hartlett not coming to Richmond. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Why do the RFC always let us down :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Adam Hartlett @adam_hartlett 7 hours ago
"probably not my place to say, but Port fans don't have anything to worry about..."
https://twitter.com/adam_hartlett/with_replies
Wtf does that translate to?
Hartlett not coming to Richmond. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Why do the RFC always let us down :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Blame Hardwick because it is the OER way!!!!! :cheers
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
Dangerfield is a restricted free agent. If Adelaide don't match Geelong's offer then the Cats get him for nothing and Adelaide will receive some compo. On the other hand, the Crows can match the offer to force Dangerfield and Geelong into a trade. Geelong then may be forced to offer up two first round picks from 2015 & 2016.
Adel have put match to get decent compo eg via trade
If he goes to the Cats as FA then the compo pick is around 14, Dangefield is worth a helluva lot more than pick 14
Hence, why Adelaide will match (as they should).
Just another example why Free Agency is so flawed
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
Dangerfield is a restricted free agent. If Adelaide don't match Geelong's offer then the Cats get him for nothing and Adelaide will receive some compo. On the other hand, the Crows can match the offer to force Dangerfield and Geelong into a trade. Geelong then may be forced to offer up two first round picks from 2015 & 2016.
Adel have put match to get decent compo eg via trade
If he goes to the Cats as FA then the compo pick is around 14, Dangefield is worth a helluva lot more than pick 14
Hence, why Adelaide will match (as they should).
Just another example why Free Agency is so flawed
surprised no-one has attempted to do this sooner - hawks with buddy comes to mind, pick 19 or whatever it was was disgraceful
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That's what I mean. If the crows match then isnt it fair game for anyone and whoever offers the best for dangerfield gets him ? The crows even said they'll get the best deal for themselves.
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yep, but ultimately the player has to agree to be traded to a particular team
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What can the cats offer that is a fair trade ?
Dangerfield is a restricted free agent. If Adelaide don't match Geelong's offer then the Cats get him for nothing and Adelaide will receive some compo. On the other hand, the Crows can match the offer to force Dangerfield and Geelong into a trade. Geelong then may be forced to offer up two first round picks from 2015 & 2016.
Adel have put match to get decent compo eg via trade
If he goes to the Cats as FA then the compo pick is around 14, Dangefield is worth a helluva lot more than pick 14
Hence, why Adelaide will match (as they should).
Just another example why Free Agency is so flawed
surprised no-one has attempted to do this sooner - hawks with buddy comes to mind, pick 19 or whatever it was was disgraceful
Difference is Hawks couldn't match the offer due to salary cap pressure and you have to match dollar for dollar and length.
Dangerfiled would be close got the highest paid now so they can easily match it
That's what I mean. If the crows match then isnt it fair game for anyone and whoever offers the best for dangerfield gets him ? The crows even said they'll get the best deal for themselves.
Perhaps but I don't see the Crows doing that. They will get him to where he wants to go but it will be on their terms
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Geez lots of tantrums going on in these parts. :lol
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That's what I mean. If the crows match then isnt it fair game for anyone and whoever offers the best for dangerfield gets him ? The crows even said they'll get the best deal for themselves.
Can't hold it against the crows for wanting their money's worth for Danger! Geelong arn't some charity, if someone else offers more than what Geelong offer he can still just nominate Geelong's contract.
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Geelong have been working on danger for at least two years. They probably will pay him overs to start with.
If Adelaide wish to keep danger they will have to match Geelongs offer. To me there could be some collateral damage in players if Adelaide decide to play hard ball and hang onto danger.I hope like hell we are in Adelaide players ears.
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How many of you would call getting Yarran and Bennell and losing Lennon and our first round pick a win?
Just putting it out there. I would accept getting Yarran and Bennel and two other players, one a ruck and one more mid, an Aish, Redden, Treloar or another for the loss of our first rounder for this year and next and losing Conca and B Ellis.
I mean what's a fair price seriously?
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How many of you would call getting Yarran and Bennell and losing Lennon and our first round pick a win?
Just putting it out there. I would accept getting Yarran and Bennel and two other players, one a ruck and one more mid, an Aish, Redden, Treloar or another for the loss of our first rounder for this year and next and losing Conca and B Ellis.
I mean what's a fair price seriously?
I accept we are likely to get Yarran, perhaps Choco Williams can weave his magic with this bloke and get him to work harder, put in the required effort and not sook
However, our 2nd round pick + Lennon is far to high IMHO.
2nd round pick only or a player only - nothing more
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How many of you would call getting Yarran and Bennell and losing Lennon and our first round pick a win?
Just putting it out there. I would accept getting Yarran and Bennel and two other players, one a ruck and one more mid, an Aish, Redden, Treloar or another for the loss of our first rounder for this year and next and losing Conca and B Ellis.
I mean what's a fair price seriously?
I accept we are likely to get Yarran, perhaps Choco Williams can weave his magic with this bloke and get him to work harder, put in the required effort and not sook
However, our 2nd round pick + Lennon is far to high IMHO.
2nd round pick only or a player only - nothing more
I agree, I have really warmed to the idea of getting Yarran so much so I can't wait to see him play live round one... :thumbsup
Ok that's a fair trade, and I wouldn't be giving up anymore than that too.
So that leaves us with our round one pick, where does that go, Bennell?
After that where are we left with securing a ruckman and do we need another top line mid or backman and at what cost? We will have a third round pick unless we trade players for a better pick and the players on the trade table would have to be: Conca, B Ellis (I doubt), Lennon (so the rumour goes), Astbury and the lesser likes of Dea.
So when do we go with that lot or will the RFC think Yarran and Bennell is enough?
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What if.......
Geelong give there first round pick (pick 9 at this point) to Carlton for Henderson.
Would you take a swap of first round picks 9 for 12 and Lennon for Yarran.
So we'd lose Lennon and pick 12 and gain Pick 9 and Yarran. I'd say that's about as fair as it gets.
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i dont want us to buckle nor to be liberal with out offerings..yarren is tainted so the price needs to reflect that
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What if.......
Geelong give there first round pick (pick 9 at this point) to Carlton for Henderson.
Would you take a swap of first round picks 9 for 12 and Lennon for Yarran.
So we'd lose Lennon and pick 12 and gain Pick 9 and Yarran. I'd say that's about as fair as it gets.
But what would you use pick 9 for? Bennell? We won't get that deal anyway bro!
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Negative Loui. Had a look at pick 9 vrs pick 12 and over the last 10 years and there is a marginal difference between the 2.
Unless its used to get another quality player like treloar through the doors the answer is no for me
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What if.......
Geelong give there first round pick (pick 9 at this point) to Carlton for Henderson.
Would you take a swap of first round picks 9 for 12 and Lennon for Yarran.
So we'd lose Lennon and pick 12 and gain Pick 9 and Yarran. I'd say that's about as fair as it gets.
But what would you use pick 9 for? Bennell? We won't get that deal anyway bro!
Just putting it out there, a Lennon for Yarran straight swap would see Punt Road burnt to the ground!!!
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What if.......
Geelong give there first round pick (pick 9 at this point) to Carlton for Henderson.
Would you take a swap of first round picks 9 for 12 and Lennon for Yarran.
So we'd lose Lennon and pick 12 and gain Pick 9 and Yarran. I'd say that's about as fair as it gets.
But what would you use pick 9 for? Bennell? We won't get that deal anyway bro!
Just putting it out there, a Lennon for Yarran straight swap would see Punt Road burnt to the ground!!!
Yes agree. I really think it's as many have said, Yarran for our round two pick.
So now that's sorted, how do we get Bennell?
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What if.......
Geelong give there first round pick (pick 9 at this point) to Carlton for Henderson.
Would you take a swap of first round picks 9 for 12 and Lennon for Yarran.
So we'd lose Lennon and pick 12 and gain Pick 9 and Yarran. I'd say that's about as fair as it gets.
But what would you use pick 9 for? Bennell? We won't get that deal anyway bro!
Just putting it out there, a Lennon for Yarran straight swap would see Punt Road burnt to the ground!!!
Agree wouldn't trade Lennon for Yarran.
Would trade say Morris for Yarran
Or Lennon for Yarran and their 2nd round pick
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Gordon maybe
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Agree wouldn't trade Lennon for Yarran.
Would trade say Morris for Yarran
Or Lennon for Yarran and their 2nd round pick
Exactly,
Carlton thinking they'll snare Lennon and a pick for Yarran is nonsense. Why would we give our first pick with 2 years of world class development who was breaking into a finals side away for a player who's career is hanging by a thread because of the complete stuff up that is their club. Absolutely dreaming
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Cause we took Hampson and they know we are lunatics
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Cause we took Hampson and they know we are lunatics
There's that. >:(
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Cause we took Hampson and they know we are lunatics
Touche :banghead
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What gets me is Caro. Firstly she says that Richmond don't trade their first pick as it is too valuable. The next thing she says is we will trade Lennon for Yarran. That's even worse!!!!! Lennon WAS OUR FIRST PICK CARO!!!! And we put 2 years into him!!!!! I would have rather traded the pick 2 years ago for someone we would have in our team now rather than waste two years on developing someone only to see them leave 2 years later.
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What gets me is Caro. Firstly she says that Richmond don't trade their first pick as it is too valuable. The next thing she says is we will trade Lennon for Yarran. That's even worse!!!!! Lennon WAS OUR FIRST PICK CARO!!!! And we put 2 years into him!!!!! I would have rather traded the pick 2 years ago for someone we would have in our team now rather than waste two years on developing someone only to see them leave 2 years later.
EXACTAMUNDO :thumbsup
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still waiting for the mainstream media, any mainstream media (ie any of the papers) to actually come out and report that lennon wants out or that he is unhappy with his offer...
so far all that's occurred has been the scoop maclure on 3aw which in turn has been picked up by caro who obviously is on 3aw.....
whereas any other rumour of player wanting to go elsewhere has been reported in the newspapers....
obviously there's no leg to the lennon thing or else someone, surely someone would write about it....
not even caro is getting any of her age writers to run the story....
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still waiting for the mainstream media, any mainstream media (ie any of the papers) to actually come out and report that lennon wants out or that he is unhappy with his offer...
so far all that's occurred has been the scoop maclure on 3aw which in turn has been picked up by caro who obviously is on 3aw.....
whereas any other rumour of player wanting to go elsewhere has been reported in the newspapers....
obviously there's no leg to the lennon thing or else someone, surely someone would write about it....
not even caro is getting any of her age writers to run the story....
The leg is the fact that he hasn't re signed yet!
If he just puts pen to paper all the rumors and innuendo go away...
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Matt Crouch makes Castagna's kicking look like laser guided bullets..... :whistle
No it doesn't
It's not good. Go watch their last final and get back to me.....
No need, I've already seen it :huh
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Clearly the tigers are circling for another mid with crouch huge :gobdrop drop from the likes of trelaor,danger,hartlett,bennel,yarran.... look he is an ok player but really we have to many of those ok players on our list do we need to add another one here.
get yarran,Bennel and one more player ready to go and u know what 3 players like this could make a uge difference I find it funny that we were reported to offer hartlett 750K hang on isn't Geelong offer 800k for danger gee whizz boys find an extra 100 and go in for danger offer him 850
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Clearly the tigers are circling for another mid with crouch huge :gobdrop drop from the likes of trelaor,danger,hartlett,bennel,yarran.... look he is an ok player but really we have to many of those ok players on our list do we need to add another one here.
get yarran,Bennel and one more player ready to go and u know what 3 players like this could make a uge difference I find it funny that we were reported to offer hartlett 750K hang on isn't Geelong offer 800k for danger gee whizz boys find an extra 100 and go in for danger offer him 850
But it' not about $$$ with Dangerfield. He wants to be near family
We or any other club could offer a million + a year and he'd still want to go to Geelong. His manager said months ago on the wireless and in the papers, it was only ever between the Crows and Geelong
Better to concentrate on things you have show in not what you don't
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
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I think he actually wants to live IN moggs. Would be hard playing for a melbourne based club driving 4+ hours every day.
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geelong freeways come on 1hour and 10 not if he has to live in his mum and dads house for FFS make the offer tigers we could give them dea,astbury,conca,gordon,morris and a draft pick hahaha... yep well aware of his manager and danger wanting to go there hay do u recall when tony locket only wanted to come and play for Richmond that didn't end up did it anything is possible :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
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I still think the club needs to relocate to wherever Dangerfield wants to live
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I still think the club needs to relocate to wherever Dangerfield wants to live
The Moggs Creek Tigers!!!! Great suggestion Chucky!!
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
Here's the thing. Similar to the Treloar situation, the deal isnt done. If Adelaide match the Geel offer as we all expect a trade is forced. Geelong will have to give up a lot for him. Talks break down, we tap Adel on the shoulder with "hey, 2 first rounders and Lennon?" and offer Dange close to the mill mark, surely all parties consider that. I know he said he "wants to be with family" but surely the premiership dream is still a major factor. Sell that, and we'd have to be a chance!
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Here's the thing. Similar to the Treloar situation, the deal isnt done. If Adelaide match the Geel offer as we all expect a trade is forced. Geelong will have to give up a lot for him. Talks break down, we tap Adel on the shoulder with "hey, 2 first rounders and Lennon?" and offer Dange close to the mill mark, surely all parties consider that. I know he said he "wants to be with family" but surely the premiership dream is still a major factor. Sell that, and we'd have to be a chance!
Actually here's the thing, Adelaide are prepared to get him to where he wants to go, the deal will get done
Also, Dangerfield has to agree to any trade, he doesn't want to go to another club so he wont, that's the thing ;D
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Here's the thing. Similar to the Treloar situation, the deal isnt done. If Adelaide match the Geel offer as we all expect a trade is forced. Geelong will have to give up a lot for him. Talks break down, we tap Adel on the shoulder with "hey, 2 first rounders and Lennon?" and offer Dange close to the mill mark, surely all parties consider that. I know he said he "wants to be with family" but surely the premiership dream is still a major factor. Sell that, and we'd have to be a chance!
Actually here's the thing, Adelaide are prepared to get him to where he wants to go, the deal will get done
Also, Dangerfield has to agree to any trade, he doesn't want to go to another club so he wont, that's the thing ;D
Must be sourcing different information because everything Ive read/heard suggests they (Adelaide) want their moneys worth. My point aknowledged completely he has to agree to the trade (ref to last sentence). Cant a kid dream?
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KB told Jon Ralph, he's heard Dangerfield to Richmond :snidegrin.
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trelor and danger pls
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still waiting for the mainstream media, any mainstream media (ie any of the papers) to actually come out and report that lennon wants out or that he is unhappy with his offer...
so far all that's occurred has been the scoop maclure on 3aw which in turn has been picked up by caro who obviously is on 3aw.....
:huh
you wont have to wait much long as hes out of contract in a few weeks
still waiting for the mainstream media, any mainstream media (ie any of the papers) to actually come out and report that lennon wants out or that he is unhappy with his offer...
so far all that's occurred has been the scoop maclure on 3aw which in turn has been picked up by caro who obviously is on 3aw.....
whereas any other rumour of player wanting to go elsewhere has been reported in the newspapers....
obviously there's no leg to the lennon thing or else someone, surely someone would write about it....
not even caro is getting any of her age writers to run the story....
The leg is the fact that he hasn't re signed yet!
If he just puts pen to paper all the rumors and innuendo go away...
yea
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Collingwood are no longer chasing Brisbane's James Aish according to Paul Connors.
There is not much interest in Brisbane's James Aish according to Damien Barrett and could stay with the Lions.
- Trade Radio
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Here's the thing. Similar to the Treloar situation, the deal isnt done. If Adelaide match the Geel offer as we all expect a trade is forced. Geelong will have to give up a lot for him. Talks break down, we tap Adel on the shoulder with "hey, 2 first rounders and Lennon?" and offer Dange close to the mill mark, surely all parties consider that. I know he said he "wants to be with family" but surely the premiership dream is still a major factor. Sell that, and we'd have to be a chance!
Actually here's the thing, Adelaide are prepared to get him to where he wants to go, the deal will get done
Also, Dangerfield has to agree to any trade, he doesn't want to go to another club so he wont, that's the thing ;D
Must be sourcing different information because everything Ive read/heard suggests they (Adelaide) want their moneys worth. My point aknowledged completely he has to agree to the trade (ref to last sentence). Cant a kid dream?
Absolutely they want their money's worth, hence why the will match the deal and it will go to the trade table. They want more than compo pick 14
But Adelaide are respectful of what Dangerfield wants and as is Dangerfield and his manager wanting to do the best by Adelaide, they are not going to deal with anyone else
So sorry I can't see the point of dwelling on this, we have more chance of landing Trelaor
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From BF:
I know for certain we've got Yarran done and dusted, on principle. Carlton have agreed to a trade, most likely a second rounder.
People are asking about Lennon, I can't say too much of what I know on Lennon, the club is very careful and sensitive of the players. I laugh at stupid Carlton people who want Lennon, when I know for a fact, he thinks Carlton is super poo. So it wouldn't surprise me if he rejected Carlton, but ...money changes minds.
We want to upgrade our 1st rounder, whether to cash it in, or to use it for a superstar, I'm unsure. Richmond and Brisbane will discuss Astbury during trade week, so if anyone says anything about Astbury, it's most likely speculation. The clubs haven't spoken about him,
We tried and failed for Motlop, Treloar is someone we're keeping our eye on, looks like Collingwood will get the deal done though. Hartlett has been offered a contract by three clubs, we're one of them. We've enquired on Lobbe, Stefan Martin, Aaron Young from Port, Kruezer had a medical with us, passed his knee, question mark on his foot.
We want - inside midfielder to help Miles and Cotch, Ruckman to eventually replace Maric, x factor who breaks line (Yarran) and a small forward. We've got 1/4. We need to tick a few more boxes, one player could tick two boxes, that's how we assess how much money we're offering.
Blair and Dan have shut down talks with the rest of the club, including players - about the trade period. Only the real higher ups know, but we are making a huge play for a superstar. I was told this 2 days ago, players are speculating this, it's not confirmed, I was also surprised that Dangerfield announced Victoria, and not Geelong. I wouldn't be surprised if we've gone hard at Dangerfield when we failed with Treloar (we were really confident with Treloar).
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-v-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1112314/page-82#post-41091350
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KB told Jon Ralph, he's heard Dangerfield to Richmond :snidegrin.
KB shocked by footy news
Kevin Bartlett
SEN
24 Sep 2015
I’m still trying to come to terms with the news yesterday that Patrick Dangerfield informed Adelaide he wants to come home to Victoria. He named no club.
Now you could have knocked me over with a feather. That came out of the blue.
The question now is, which club can get his services. Richmond I believe are very keen on Dangerfield and the Hawks are said to be quietly working behind the scenes for his services.
Throw in Collingwood, Melbourne and the Bulldogs as likely suitors as well.
But, here’s my whisper – Don’t be surprised if Dangerfield doesn’t end up at Geelong.
You heard it first from me.
Read more at: http://www.sen.com.au/news/09-15/kb-shocked-by-footy-news#H3z0Jta1Q4RRDMTf.99
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Damn you KB...stop doing this
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Damn you KB...stop doing this
:clapping
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Like a boss giving hints at a promotion that will never eventuate. Still, Ill enjoy the ride!
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Kevin, through his rubbish, gives supporters more joy than the club
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Kevin, through his rubbish, gives supporters more joy than the club
:clapping :thumbsup :bow
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KB Eclipses Jack Dyer as a legend, stalwart champion.
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Another one of Melbourne's top 5 draft picks is apparently on the way out ...
Underwhelming Melbourne midfielder, Jimmy Toumpas is likely to depart the Dees this trade period, according to 1116 SEN.
“Jimmy’s name came up last year and has come up again this year,” said SEN draft expert Brett Anderson.
“I think there is a very good chance that he probably plays at another footy club next year.
“He was a pick four and I think there was 17 other clubs that would have taken him ahead of Ollie Wines.
“All the talk of they took the wrong player, hindsight’s a wonderful thing.”
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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5 top 14 picks from 2013 & 6 from 2012 are already at new clubs or have been linked with moves. Gen Ys are hard work.
Read more: http://www.sen.com.au/news/09-15/draft-stoppers#utSThB2fjqMAQJV3.97
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KB loves being a drama queen, says he is still coming to terms re: Clangerfield FFS KB this has been the hottest trade topic all year and you are still coming to terms with it.
Mate STFU!!!!
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Michelangelo Rucci, the chief football writer at the Adelaide Advertiser declared: "Adelaide Football Club chief executive Andrew Fagan will on Thursday declare that the Crows intend to force free-agent Patrick Dangerfield into the lottery of the AFL draft if Geelong does not strike a fair trade for the star midfielder."
He also went on to declare that: "Dangerfield has assured Adelaide he will only take up an offer from Geelong rather than accept deals from eager clubs Hawthorn, Richmond and Collingwood."
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/523600651147501
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5 top 14 picks from 2013 & 6 from 2012 are already at new clubs or have been linked with moves. Gen Ys are hard work.
Read more: http://www.sen.com.au/news/09-15/draft-stoppers#utSThB2fjqMAQJV3.97
More like F/A has totally changed the game. Clubs are now tempted to get their money's worth from a player that wants to leave rather than force them to stay until they're eligible for F/A and get nada.
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
End of story? Gee wiz, have your opinion but don't belittle everyone elses. I remember when Matty White was never leaving Richmond :rollin
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Warren Tredrea on Adelaide radio today said Richmond are offering Hamish Hartlett $750k over 5 years while North are offering $700k for years.
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Warren Tredrea on Adelaide radio today said Richmond are offering Hamish Hartlett $750k over 5 years while North are offering $700k for years.
I thought he was staying?
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We won't get him. His brother tweeted yesterday that Port fans had nothing to worry about. Worse still this sort of offer means we have almost certainly lost Bennell. Sounds like its hit 3am at the nightclub and all the 10's have left already and we are scrambling around trying to cut one from the herd at the last minute.
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Glenn Gulliver @glenn_gulliver twitter 8 hours ago
"@BrettAndersonIF I have a scoop for you. Aish is locked away at Hawthorn. Hawks now working away on target number two...Liam McBean
https://twitter.com/glenn_gulliver
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
End of story? Gee wiz, have your opinion but don't belittle everyone elses. I remember when Matty White was never leaving Richmond :rollin
Not sure how I've belittled anyone. I gave an opinion that is money won't talk here, it is not the over riding factor.
As for Matty White, belittle me on that one if you feel the need, but I know re Matty White exactly what happened, how it happened and all those involved. Repeat exactly; no grey, no opinions, no guessing just the facts, the details. And as I said many times before I will not betray a confidence ; a family confidence. You have an issue with that (still) then that's your issue not mine
But as I said whack me if you feel the need :thumbsup
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WP is right. Danger is going to Geelong. Not really much point going into it much further. May as well spend time thinking about fanciful acquisitions that are at least somewhat possible.
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Wouldnt mind getting rid of mcbean to the hawks as long as we get something decent
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Glenn Gulliver @glenn_gulliver twitter 8 hours ago
"@BrettAndersonIF I have a scoop for you. Aish is locked away at Hawthorn. Hawks now working away on target number two...Liam McBean
https://twitter.com/glenn_gulliver
Good thing is Mcbean is contracted , had a sneaky feeling Aish was Hawks bound , reason for the ongoing silence
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Wouldnt mind getting rid of mcbean to the hawks as long as we get something decent
Knowing Hawthorn it would be Jason Dunstall or a pat on the back. I'd hate to lose Mcbean.
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We won't get him. His brother tweeted yesterday that Port fans had nothing to worry about. Worse still this sort of offer means we have almost certainly lost Bennell. Sounds like its hit 3am at the nightclub and all the 10's have left already and we are scrambling around trying to cut one from the herd at the last minute.
:lol
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Crows say they are willing to deal with any Victorian club who wants Patrick Dangerfield.
http://www.themercury.com.au/crows-say-they-are-willing-to-deal-with-any-victorian-club-who-wants-patrick-dangerfield/story-fnj3twbb-1227542538058
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Ccc. Who will blink first, posturing :lol
IMESHO Dagerfield will get to Geelong
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If a prospective club offers a certain amount for a restricted free agent and it gets matched by the current club and a trade is forced; is the prospective club still obligated to pay the original offer or can it pay less after the trade is reached?
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But as I said whack me if you feel the need :thumbsup
Does that go for me as well?
:lol
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Wouldnt mind getting rid of mcbean to the hawks as long as we get something decent
Have never wanted to lose McBean. We have two others who are exactly the same type of player who have a track record to judge em by. FFS keep McBean and actually develop the bloke properly, he is a kid still. Instead offer up Vickery or Griffiths. No change that, both Dunstall and Brereton would not touch Vickery with a barge pole offer them Griffiths instead.
Ahhhh hard calls inevitably the area this club fails in the most.
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Lol get rid of McBean
I hope that was a typo. Then again he cant crack into this powerful side so he must be a dud.
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I'm not all that find of mcbean. Would get monstered by most kpd at afl level I reckon. Guess we haven't had the chance to find out though.
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Can we have a 'Dont trade the Bean' thread set up? Stuff Whorerthorn, they can raid somebody else! >:(
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I'm not all that find of mcbean. Would get monstered by most kpd at afl level I reckon. Guess we haven't had the chance to find out though.
McBean is a leading forward with incredible agility for his height which gives him a unique ability to crumb his own ball and also has excellent footy smarts.....if used properly he won't be getting into many wrestling matches with opposition defenders.
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I would say the defensive side (forward pressure and 2nd efforts etc) of McBean's game is what he needs to improve before our match committee will play him in the seniors. He's still only just turned 21 so there's plenty of scope for that improvement and development. No way would you trade a 21 y.o. 200cm mobile KPF who topped the goalkicking in the VFL.
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Warren Tredrea on Adelaide radio today said Richmond are offering Hamish Hartlett $750k over 5 years while North are offering $700k for years.
I thought he was staying?
He's from SA so there's no go home factor here. I'd guess money and security talks if he were to quit Port. $750k p.a. is a lot of money and 5 years is a lengthy contract for someone who at this stage wouldn't be classed as an A-grader. After being pick 4 in the 2008 draft, he suffered a number of hamstring injuries in his first 4 years. He's played 22 games per year over the past 3 seasons though so at least his body seems to be holding up nowdays.
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
End of story? Gee wiz, have your opinion but don't belittle everyone elses. I remember when Matty White was never leaving Richmond :rollin
Not sure how I've belittled anyone. I gave an opinion that is money won't talk here, it is not the over riding factor.
As for Matty White, belittle me on that one if you feel the need, but I know re Matty White exactly what happened, how it happened and all those involved. Repeat exactly; no grey, no opinions, no guessing just the facts, the details. And as I said many times before I will not betray a confidence ; a family confidence. You have an issue with that (still) then that's your issue not mine
But as I said whack me if you feel the need :thumbsup
It's the use of "end of story" that is belittling. It's as if you're saying you are right and they are wrong no point arguing. Its a vain way of trying to end a debate. End of the day all your non grey, non opinionated facts turned out to be wrong and he left. Not sure what you mean about me having an issue?
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Money talks.
Would still be offering Dangerfield $900-1.2mil/year for 5 years.
Surely he can live an extra hour or two from his family for $200k/year.
In this case IMHO money wont talk, he wants to go to Geelong. End of story
End of story? Gee wiz, have your opinion but don't belittle everyone elses. I remember when Matty White was never leaving Richmond :rollin
Not sure how I've belittled anyone. I gave an opinion that is money won't talk here, it is not the over riding factor.
As for Matty White, belittle me on that one if you feel the need, but I know re Matty White exactly what happened, how it happened and all those involved. Repeat exactly; no grey, no opinions, no guessing just the facts, the details. And as I said many times before I will not betray a confidence ; a family confidence. You have an issue with that (still) then that's your issue not mine
But as I said whack me if you feel the need :thumbsup
It's the use of "end of story" that is belittling. It's as if you're saying you are right and they are wrong no point arguing. Its a vain way of trying to end a debate. End of the day all your non grey, non opinionated facts turned out to be wrong and he left. Not sure what you mean about me having an issue?
Pretty sure from memory, WP said at the time that Matty White didn't want to leave Richmond which was true. It was the Club that was wrongly claiming Whitey wanted to go. As is fairly well known now, the Club only offered him a one-year deal on less money compared to Port's 3-years and so pragmatically Whitey took the far better and secure offer.
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Pretty sure from memory, WP said at the time that Matty White didn't want to leave Richmond which was true. It was the Club that was wrongly claiming Whitey wanted to go. As is fairly well known now, the Club only offered him a one-year deal on less money compared to Port's 3-years and so pragmatically Whitey took the far better and secure offer.
This^
Thank you
So will repeat on the Matt White issue, my posts were not opinions, they were facts.
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are you saying the RFC would fib to us ? :o
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Damn you KB...stop doing this
no, its good :shh
kb :clapping
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Reports this morning that Lennon is on the move. Clearly his manager countering the HS article in today's paper. Fairly clear both parties are a fair distance apart still
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Reports this morning that Lennon is on the move. Clearly his manager countering the HS article in today's paper. Fairly clear both parties are a fair distance apart still
pee him off then seriously. He should take note of how we managed Dusty when he got greedy.
This kid isn't even worth $300k yet. I'd be offering him $400-500k for two years max. He's shown a bit, that's all.
If somebody else wants to pay him $400k/year we should make that their problem. Could maybe trade up the draft. Lennon + round 1 + round 2 pick for Yarran and Carlton's round 1 pick.
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Reports this morning that Lennon is on the move. Clearly his manager countering the HS article in today's paper. Fairly clear both parties are a fair distance apart still
Reports coming from our dear friends at SEN it seems ;D
@theafloffseason: 1116 SEN are reporting that Ben Lennon could be on the move from Richmond for more opportunity.
He would be the... http://t.co/lXioU3vOy9
Can I just add, that Jon Ralph who reported last night and it's in today's HUN that the signature is close has very good sources inside Tigerland...bit like Robbo has at Essendon
so make of that what you will
Just have to say I love this time of year. And so far 2015 has been a ripper :rollin
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Reports this morning that Lennon is on the move. Clearly his manager countering the HS article in today's paper. Fairly clear both parties are a fair distance apart still
reports from who?? andy maher on morning glory?
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Richmonds official social media page on facebook just put a video featuring Lennon up. Telling? :pray
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Pretty sure from memory, WP said at the time that Matty White didn't want to leave Richmond which was true. It was the Club that was wrongly claiming Whitey wanted to go. As is fairly well known now, the Club only offered him a one-year deal on less money compared to Port's 3-years and so pragmatically Whitey took the far better and secure offer.
This^
Thank you
So will repeat on the Matt White issue, my posts were not opinions, they were facts.
I more remember WP claiming he'll be a one club player, loves the club and doesn't want to play for any other club.
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"More opportunity", really, how about as a second year player you earn it.
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Pretty sure from memory, WP said at the time that Matty White didn't want to leave Richmond which was true. It was the Club that was wrongly claiming Whitey wanted to go. As is fairly well known now, the Club only offered him a one-year deal on less money compared to Port's 3-years and so pragmatically Whitey took the far better and secure offer.
This^
Thank you
So will repeat on the Matt White issue, my posts were not opinions, they were facts.
I more remember WP claiming he'll be a one club player, loves the club and doesn't want to play for any other club.
He did say that. You are making an incorrect deduction. You would be correct if the club did not offer him anything. They offered him a contract but were not wanting to go as far as Port. Matt made the decision to leave. Richmond didn't trade or delist him. I am happy for him too.
Just because someone says they want to be a one club player doesn't mean they hold themselves to that statement. He had a better offer and left. Doesn't mean he never made the statement though.....
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"More opportunity", really, how about as a second year player you earn it.
Not sure what is wrong, but your posts lately are making a lot of sense
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Pretty sure from memory, WP said at the time that Matty White didn't want to leave Richmond which was true. It was the Club that was wrongly claiming Whitey wanted to go. As is fairly well known now, the Club only offered him a one-year deal on less money compared to Port's 3-years and so pragmatically Whitey took the far better and secure offer.
This^
Thank you
So will repeat on the Matt White issue, my posts were not opinions, they were facts.
I more remember WP claiming he'll be a one club player, loves the club and doesn't want to play for any other club.
He did say that. You are making an incorrect deduction. You would be correct if the club did not offer him anything. They offered him a contract but were not wanting to go as far as Port. Matt made the decision to leave. Richmond didn't trade or delist him. I am happy for him too.
Just because someone says they want to be a one club player doesn't mean they hold themselves to that statement. He had a better offer and left. Doesn't mean he never made the statement though.....
Maybe to the crowd at a Richmond function, but he was always open to offers from other clubs. He would be stupid not to be. It has nothing to do with whether the club offered him something or not.
Despite your attempt at an argument, that last line is pretty much agreeing with the crux of my argument. There is no "end of story" until the deal is done.
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It obviously means a lot if the club didn't offer him anything. If that happened he could never be a one club player unless he never played again. So since the club offered him a contract, he at least had the chance to be a one club player if he wished. Not ever saying that he should have stayed though as Matty needed to look after his own interests. Something that many supporters often choose to ignore.
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ESSENDON midfielder Jake Melksham has told the club he wants to be traded to another club.
Melksham, a former top-10 draft selection, has played 114 games over six seasons at the Bombers but he declined to sign a new two-year deal offered by the club.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-25/melksham-tells-bombers-he-wants-a-fresh-start
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Well, Lids wants Hartley to get a move on and sign a gun.
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“I’m always interested,” Deledio said on Fox Footy’s ‘AFL 360’ program.
“Early on in my career, I probably wasn’t as much . . . you’re more worried about yourself, I think. But now, I’m all about us winning and getting better.
“I’m constantly on the phone to Dan Richardson and to Blair Hartley, about finding out what’s going on.
“But, as you can understand, they’ve got to play their cards pretty close to their chest and keep a lot of things under wraps.
“So, I’m a bit like everyone else, I’m sort of in the dark and just waiting to hear what happens.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-25/deledio-drawn-to-the-silly-season
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Gold Coast's Aaron Hall is off the market.
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/goldcoastsuns/news/2015-09-25/hall-inks-threeyear-deal
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"More opportunity", really, how about as a second year player you earn it.
Not sure what is wrong, but your posts lately are making a lot of sense
I am learning off you chuckster ;D
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see another one we missed out in Melksham. Bloody hell hartley do your friggin job his a gun.
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SEPTEMBER 25, 3.28pm: TRADE WHISPERS
Port Adelaide's Hamish Hartlett emerged as another possible high-profile trade target this week, with Richmond and North Melbourne reported to have offered the midfielder long-term deals worth more than $700,000 a season.
Hartlett is contracted to the end of 2016 when he is set to become a free agent, most likely a restricted one.
There has been speculation that Port could face a salary cap squeeze if, as expected, it secures Gold Coast spearhead Charlie Dixon in next month's trade period, especially given it lured Patrick Ryder from Essendon on a big-money deal last year.
But Port seems well placed to keep Hartlett at Alberton Oval in 2016 and beyond, with rival clubs conceding he's unlikely to move.
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... while fellow suitor Richmond is also believed to have cooled on Aish.
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• GWS ruckman Andrew Phillips met with Carlton on Thursday, when he also completed a medical test. Phillips is contracted until the end of 2017 but has struggled for regular senior opportunities with the Giants.
• Hawthorn unrestricted free agent Brendan Whitecross has attracted interest from several rival clubs and, after managing just four senior games in 2015, could seek a fresh start.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-25/trade-whispers-cashedup-clubs-come-for-hartlett
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St Kilda's Ahmed Saad is yet to receive a formal contract offer and his future at the club is unclear. The Saints are likely to wait and see how its trade and free agency period pans out before making a decision on Saad's future. Would you want the Small Forward at your club if he was available? ...
Geelong, Sydney and Essendon are are believed to be interested in Gold Coast's Zac Smith.
Fremantle is now frontrunner to secure Brisbane Lions ruckman Matthew Leuenberger. Essendon and Sydney are both interested in the Lions big man. Essendon and Sydney will likely wait until Leuenberger settles on his preferred new home before making a definitive play for Smith.
Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Adelaide and St Kilda are believed to be circling Collingwood's Paul Seedsman.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Meanwhile Richmond is circling itself.... ;D
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Meanwhile Richmond is circling itself.... ;D
Dom Tyson.........
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HI Y&B dont get it..can you elaborate please
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HI Y&B dont get it..can you elaborate please
Rumour we are circling Dom. I believe his 2 year contract is up but I stand corrected. Used to date President Casey's daughter....
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Didnt he transfer to the Dees not less than 2 seasons ago?
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Meanwhile Richmond is circling itself.... ;D
I can't wait to see the list of layers other clubs got agains the list of players RFC got.
Lmao.
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Didnt he transfer to the Dees not less than 2 seasons ago?
He transferred in the 2013 trade period. I think he had a 2 year contract and so it is up now. :pray
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How about JOM?
Liability ?
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How about JOM?
Liability ?
Not as big a liability as JON ;D
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How about JOM?
Liability ?
Not as big a liability as JON ;D
But he is good at mowing his mums lawn.
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We were big into Dom Tyson before he went to Melbourne. We supposedly had him sewn up a year before he even left. If he didn't come to us then, he won't be coming to us now
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Matty Kruezer off the market, signed new 2 year deal with Carlton
@FOXSportsNews: JUST KREUZING: @CarltonFC ruckman Matthew Kreuzer signs two-year deal to remain at club until end of 2017 #AFL http://t.co/3M7sslpxJZ
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Not unhappy with this.
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Meanwhile Richmond is circling itself.... ;D
I can't wait to see the list of layers other clubs got agains the list of players RFC got.
Lmao.
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Yea they really aced us last year ::)
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Meanwhile Richmond is circling itself.... ;D
I can't wait to see the list of layers other clubs got agains the list of players RFC got.
Lmao.
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Yea they really aced us last year ::)
Yeah Blair really aced 'em all when he snagged Hunt from right under everyone's noses....
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We aced the draft , improved our list , alternately we could have mortgaged punt rd for paddy Ryder or Kristiian jacksh or Jon o rourke or Tom Boyd .....no , we weely stuffed up :lol
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Hunt actually made our list worse - Geelong improved their list just by getting rid of him.
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Well we won more games than the previous year with a worse list ::)
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...and still lost the most important one.....
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No, we haven't played in that game since 1982 :whistle
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SEPTEMBER 25, 5.42pm: HARTLETT WANTS TO STAY
Star Power midfielder Hamish Hartlett has entered contract negotiations with the club and hopes to remain a one-club player.
Hartlett, who is contracted until the end of 2016, said he is happy at the club and doesn't want to play anywhere else.
"There's always a bit of work that goes into a contract negotiation, but I'm very happy at Port Adelaide and want to stay here," Hartlett said on the club's website.
"The only guernsey I want to wear in the AFL is a Port one.
"My family is in Adelaide, it's my home town, I've got no desire to be anywhere else, and this is my club."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-25/trade-whispers-cashedup-clubs-come-for-hartlett
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I didn't even blink when I heard his name come up, would be like us putting up lids or Martin for trade. Wouldn't happen
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From BF:
Here's more that I've learnt today. The club realises it's difficult to sell our brand to sponsors and fans after failing at three elimination finals. Signing an established star has two effects, firstly, it improves our team and that's obviously the most important aspect. Secondly, this player will excite fans and sponsors, give Richmond the ability to promote 2016 memberships and hit their target of 75,000 for 2016. The player I'm speaking about has agreed to come to Richmond on principle, his management like the deal, he's spoken with a few players. The key here is simple, complete the deal. Hopefully losing first round draft picks and a key position player is enough. If not, the deal may never happen. Club is working hard to make it happen, lots of internal pressure on Blair Hartley. Just like there was on Burge last year. Hartley simple needs to nail a deal, his career is on the line. That's why he's on the phone with Treloar again. He is a resilient person Blair, he will fight tooth and nail and his aim is to exceed expectation, not just meet it. I've heard that the club has had a meeting with Bennell - don't know how the meeting went, the leadership group believe we've got the right practises in place to deal with Bennell. In other words, the players are totally on board for him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-v-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1112314/page-130#post-41140103
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Wonder who he was talking about in the early part of the post. Must be a big name for 2 first rounders and a KPP. :pray :pray
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O'Meara seems to be the latest rumour....
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O'Meara seems to be the latest rumour....
:pray :pray :pray
Luke Parkers name was mentioned a lot on the forum as well, but no one had a clue.
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O'Meara seems to be the latest rumour....
Bloke with the dicky knees? Would be wary...
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Oh and someone mentioned Rioli....though unless they meant one of his cousins, I'd take that with a grain of salt...
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Oh and someone mentioned Rioli....though unless they meant one of his cousins, I'd take that with a grain of salt...
I don't think the one with a giant hawk tattoo on his torso is going anywhere :shh
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It wouldn't be the little master would it? :shh
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Praying for Jaeger
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The Jaeger rumor has been around for a while now, certainly has some legs.
If it's not this season it will be next, never hurts to inquier.....
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It wouldn't be the little master would it? :shh
Now that would be HUGE coup. However, if he did want to return to Victoria then surely it would be back to Geelong.
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From BF:
Here's more that I've learnt today. The club realises it's difficult to sell our brand to sponsors and fans after failing at three elimination finals. Signing an established star has two effects, firstly, it improves our team and that's obviously the most important aspect. Secondly, this player will excite fans and sponsors, give Richmond the ability to promote 2016 memberships and hit their target of 75,000 for 2016. The player I'm speaking about has agreed to come to Richmond on principle, his management like the deal, he's spoken with a few players. The key here is simple, complete the deal. Hopefully losing first round draft picks and a key position player is enough. If not, the deal may never happen. Club is working hard to make it happen, lots of internal pressure on Blair Hartley. Just like there was on Burge last year. Hartley simple needs to nail a deal, his career is on the line. That's why he's on the phone with Treloar again. He is a resilient person Blair, he will fight tooth and nail and his aim is to exceed expectation, not just meet it. I've heard that the club has had a meeting with Bennell - don't know how the meeting went, the leadership group believe we've got the right practises in place to deal with Bennell. In other words, the players are totally on board for him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-v-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1112314/page-130#post-41140103
All our indicators doesn't tell us that the brand is a hard sell to sponsors I would imagine.
Membership, crowds, ratings, social media, profits.
All these means exposure on a massive level.
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Jake Carlisle set to decide between St Kilda, Carlton and Western Bulldogs as his new club.
http://www.themercury.com.au/jake-carlisle-set-to-decide-between-st-kilda-carlton-and-western-bulldogs-as-his-new-club/story-fnj3twbb-1227545073451
Some Saturday #TradeSENtral musings:
WB and STK interested in Port's Aaron Young.
If Aish leaves BL, Hawthorn are firming as favorites.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
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Jake Carlisle set to decide between St Kilda, Carlton and Western Bulldogs as his new club.
http://www.themercury.com.au/jake-carlisle-set-to-decide-between-st-kilda-carlton-and-western-bulldogs-as-his-new-club/story-fnj3twbb-1227545073451
Some Saturday #TradeSENtral musings:
WB and STK interested in Port's Aaron Young.
If Aish leaves BL, Hawthorn are firming as favorites.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
Why arent we into this bloke. We desperately need to upgrade on the likes of Chaplin.Seems to me there are three very decent tall defenders up for grabs. Carlisle, Henderson and Michael Talia who has fallen out with the dogs. We should be all over one of them.
Also on a less grand scale Ports Jarred Redden has been delisted. I know he has struggled with injuries a bit but i would like to see us take him as a delisted f/a. Any thoughts on this.
Every one always bang on about the top end players, but we do have weaknesses that have to be addressed even if only in the short term.
One other question for people. Are we in a strong enough position where we can afford to trade away a first round pick possibly two on a risky player.
Don't we all complain about Depth and the lack of quality. If we take a punt on a risky player and it fails it leaves us in a very bad place.
Should we not be as certain as possible that we are getting a proven hard working switched on hungry player with heaps of talent with these type of trades.
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we only blood one new kid a year (too many favourites) so what's the point in stockpiling them....might as well trade the pick away...
its absolutely crazy that we aren't in for Carlisle.... let the bulldogs keep building a ctop class spine to go with their smalls while we sit idle....
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North Melb extremely active in scouting for trade opportunities, rival clubs say. Expectation they'll look at Bennell too.
Unlucky Hawk Brendan Whitecross's name has been linked to Brisbane.
Suckling now looking more likely to stay a Hawk. There's been speculation linking him to GC. It's wrong. Not on Suns hit list.
https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL
Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield expects the Crows and Geelong to reach an agreement in October – preventing him from entering the draft.
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2015-09-27/dangerfield-expects-smooth-move-to-cats
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we only blood one new kid a year (too many favourites) so what's the point in stockpiling them....might as well trade the pick away...
its absolutely crazy that we aren't in for Carlisle.... let the bulldogs keep building a ctop class spine to go with their smalls while we sit idle....
qft
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From BF:
Here's more that I've learnt today. The club realises it's difficult to sell our brand to sponsors and fans after failing at three elimination finals. Signing an established star has two effects, firstly, it improves our team and that's obviously the most important aspect. Secondly, this player will excite fans and sponsors, give Richmond the ability to promote 2016 memberships and hit their target of 75,000 for 2016. The player I'm speaking about has agreed to come to Richmond on principle, his management like the deal, he's spoken with a few players. The key here is simple, complete the deal. Hopefully losing first round draft picks and a key position player is enough. If not, the deal may never happen. Club is working hard to make it happen, lots of internal pressure on Blair Hartley. Just like there was on Burge last year. Hartley simple needs to nail a deal, his career is on the line. That's why he's on the phone with Treloar again. He is a resilient person Blair, he will fight tooth and nail and his aim is to exceed expectation, not just meet it. I've heard that the club has had a meeting with Bennell - don't know how the meeting went, the leadership group believe we've got the right practises in place to deal with Bennell. In other words, the players are totally on board for him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-v-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1112314/page-130#post-41140103
All our indicators doesn't tell us that the brand is a hard sell to sponsors I would imagine.
Membership, crowds, ratings, social media, profits.
All these means exposure on a massive level.
roger drove past PT oval last night and it was pitch black and i could barely see a few ME bank signs. This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
Is it a contract thing and if so do you know its up? Surely we can do better
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roger drove past PT oval last night and it was pitch black and i could barely see a few ME bank signs. This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
Is it a contract thing and if so do you know its up? Surely we can do better
Deal finishes 31 Oct this year. ME Bank advised the club 12 months ago they wouldn't be renewing
And FWIW our deal with ME is one of the larger ones for ground naming rights
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we only blood one new kid a year (too many favourites) so what's the point in stockpiling them....might as well trade the pick away...
its absolutely crazy that we aren't in for Carlisle.... let the bulldogs keep building a ctop class spine to go with their smalls while we sit idle....
Agree with all of this.
What a stupid club.
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roger drove past PT oval last night and it was pitch black and i could barely see a few ME bank signs. This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
Is it a contract thing and if so do you know its up? Surely we can do better
Deal finishes 31 Oct this year. ME Bank advised the club 12 months ago they wouldn't be renewing
And FWIW our deal with ME is one of the larger ones for ground naming rights
wow there you go. one of the larger ones as in behind who out of curiosity? it should be the largest IMO next to westpac.
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:lol
who gives a stuff how big the brand is that gives us the money.
they are paying to be associated with our name, not the other way around.
lmao
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come on alberto just brought it up as i drove past last night. Largest as in $$$ amigo. i didnt know that ME is one of the largest naming rights in the league.
I presume you did.
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to tell the truth, i didnt, nor do i care.
nor do i care if we have the most members, best looking jumper, best team song or any other mindless dribble that people cling to in place of on field success.
premierships is what i want, not consolation prizes.
but back to what you posted
This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
which very much seems to be having a dig at the stature of the sponsor.
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to tell the truth, i didnt, nor do i care.
nor do i care if we have the most members, best looking jumper, best team song or any other mindless dribble that people cling to in place of on field success.
premierships is what i want, not consolation prizes.
but back to what you posted
This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
which very much seems to be having a dig at the stature of the sponsor.
I think what he is saying is that there should be multiple advertisers taking advantage of that prime real estate
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but back to what you posted
This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
which very much seems to be having a dig at the stature of the sponsor.
I wouldn't have read it that way.
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roger drove past PT oval last night and it was pitch black and i could barely see a few ME bank signs. This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
Is it a contract thing and if so do you know its up? Surely we can do better
Deal finishes 31 Oct this year. ME Bank advised the club 12 months ago they wouldn't be renewing
And FWIW our deal with ME is one of the larger ones for ground naming rights
Correct WP one of the better naming rights contracts from what I was told.
Yep it is up.
I'm sure the club has been onto finding a naming rights sponsor moving forward.
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to tell the truth, i didnt, nor do i care.
nor do i care if we have the most members, best looking jumper, best team song or any other mindless dribble that people cling to in place of on field success.
premierships is what i want, not consolation prizes.
but back to what you posted
This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
which very much seems to be having a dig at the stature of the sponsor.
I think what he is saying is that there should be multiple advertisers taking advantage of that prime real estate
perhaps,( but we will never know for sure.) naming rights is normally exclusive though, isnt it?
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to tell the truth, i didnt, nor do i care.
nor do i care if we have the most members, best looking jumper, best team song or any other mindless dribble that people cling to in place of on field success.
premierships is what i want, not consolation prizes.
*are what I want :angel:
Having grown up during the era I did, its all I can hold on to, to get me through the nights. :help
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yes, yes, right you is. "are" is the proppa grammar for plural
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yes, yes, right you is. "are" is the proppa grammar for plural
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first time ive been called that without being on my knees
:cheers
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roger drove past PT oval last night and it was pitch black and i could barely see a few ME bank signs. This is the busiest road in Melbourne and all we can come up with is ME.
Is it a contract thing and if so do you know its up? Surely we can do better
Deal finishes 31 Oct this year. ME Bank advised the club 12 months ago they wouldn't be renewing
And FWIW our deal with ME is one of the larger ones for ground naming rights
wow there you go. one of the larger ones as in behind who out of curiosity? it should be the largest IMO next to westpac.
Behind C'Wood & Geelong.
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first time ive been called that without being on my knees
:cheers
The little things :thumbsup
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yes, yes, right you is. "are" is the proppa grammar for plural
Not necessarily. If you are talking about multiple individual premiership wins then yes it is but if you are talking about premierships as a concept (which could very easily be the case in the context you used it) then the singular "is" is correct. Nothing like spending a lazy Sunday afternoon reading a grammar and spelling toss-off. :help
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yeah, i considered that line, but it went into the CBF basket. I think you are correct, though.
such a strange beast, is the English language
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy just now said Dangerfield has told other clubs that he'll only sign for one year if he doesn't get to Geelong. He'll then move to the Cats.
Melbourne, by the way, believes it's not a done deal and has offered Dangerfield $1.5 million over 6-7 years ($10m).
Jake Carlisle will end up at St Kilda if it's about money. St Kilda coach Alan Richardson admitted the Saints want him but they haven't had the final tick that they are Carlisle's preferred club.
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From SEN:
Essendon's Jake Carlisle is yet to nominate a preferred club after requesting to be traded out of the Bombers, but St Kilda is leading the charge for his services.
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CARLTON recruiting chief Stephen Silvagni is preparing a raid on up to four opportunity-starved Greater Western Sydney players.
The Blues have strong interest in exciting wingman Liam Sumner (No.10 draft pick), defender Lachie Plowman (No.3), goalsneak Jed Lamb (No.21) and former rookie-listed ruckman Andrew Phillips.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-interested-in-gws-midfielder-liam-sumner/story-fnj3twbb-1227547469262
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Tom Browne from Ch 7 says Adam Tomlinson of GWS wants to return to Victoria. He was pick 9 in the 2011 draft and has played 53 games for the Giants.
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Two cm shorter than Chaplin
Not a massive gimp.
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Q. Jay Are Richmond in the market for a Ruckman to help out Big Ivan?
Jay Clark: Had a good look at free agent Kreuzer. Definitely looking at a tall.
Q. G'day jay,
i know danger wants and will get to the cats but do you think this deal has any Merritt if adelaide match the cats free agent offer:
astbury and richmonds 2 round draft pick to the lions for aish
aish and richmonds 1 round draft pick to adelaide for danger??
Jay Clark: Not bad. But Danger to Cats, not Richmond. I cannot be any more certain that (Danger to Cats) will happen.
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Jay Clark also says:
Sydney are targeting West Coast's Callum Sinclair in the upcoming trade window according to Jay Clark.
Seedsman to either Adel, GC or North
Freeman to Saints or North
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Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.
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Geelong's Steve Johnson could be reunited with his premiership teammate Gary Ablett at Gold Coast if the Suns' skipper gets his way.
Ablett has asked the Suns' hierarchy to consider recruiting Johnson after he spoke to the 31-year-old to find out his plans for 2016 and beyond.
Source: AFL Website
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Western Bulldogs' Jarrad Grant has cleaned out his locker and will be delisted or sign for another team as an unrestricted free agent according to Mark Stevens.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-interested-in-gws-midfielder-liam-sumner/story-fnj3twbb-1227547469262
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Rumour on SEN - Dangerfield deal gets done through free agency. Cats trade pick 9 for Kerridge/CEY. Crows have picks 9,13,14. #TradeSENtral
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Q. Any news on the Tiges Jay-Z? Seem to be linked with everyone but nothing looks like eventuating..?
Jay Clark: They are into Yarran and might get him on the cheap with a second round pick. Will have something up their sleeve with first pick too.
Q. Jay, I heard that Richmond are into O'Meara? Any truth to that?
Jay Clark: Every club would love him. Perfect fit for Tigers. I'm a huge fan. Skill, class, decision-making.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-carlton-interested-in-gws-midfielder-liam-sumner/story-fnp04d70-1227547469262
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Tom Browne from Ch 7 says Adam Tomlinson of GWS wants to return to Victoria. He was pick 9 in the 2011 draft and has played 53 games for the Giants.
Yes please. Massive upgrade on either Chaplin or Batchelor and can play forward as well.
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Unbelievable really. Just picking up Yarran won't be a win and with so much talent moving clubs we may really miss out and it could show over the coming years.... :-\
I'm happy to get Yarran now but he is not the sole answer to our woes. We need Yarran plans at least two more and those two need to be all class.
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Unbelievable really. Just picking up Yarran won't be a win and with so much talent moving clubs we may really miss out and it could show over the coming years.... :-\
I'm happy to get Yarran now but he is not the sole answer to our woes. We need Yarran plans at least two more and those two need to be all class.
Speed and class, Yarran, Bennell and Redden would be a win👍
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Unbelievable really. Just picking up Yarran won't be a win and with so much talent moving clubs we may really miss out and it could show over the coming years.... :-\
I'm happy to get Yarran now but he is not the sole answer to our woes. We need Yarran plans at least two more and those two need to be all class.
Speed and class, Yarran, Bennell and Redden would be a win👍
Yes agree, that would most definitely be a win, I'm just not confident though. Even Yarran, Redd n and a ruckman would be a win. Not sure who is still left though as a decent ruck.
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Brisbane ruckman Matthew Leuenberger is set to join Essendon or Sydney. He is expected to earn in the vicinity of $400k - $450k on his next contract.
Jeremy Howe is seeking a contract worth about $450k - $500k next season, but has been unable to agree to terms with Melbourne, with contract talks dragging on. His preference is to remain at the Dees. The Herald Sun understands Gold Coast and Fremantle have shown the most interest in Howe.
Jack Watts is contracted for next season but Melbourne has made clear it would consider all trade options in its bid to make finals for the first time in a decade next season. Jay Clark says Melbourne want a "decent player" or a "top 20 pick" in return.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-melbourne-continues-to-baulk-at-jeremy-howes-contract-demands/story-fnj3twbb-1227549546064
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Fremantle ruckman Zac Clarke has signed a new deal with the Dockers. Clarke has signed a one year deal with the minor premiers, turning his back on offers from his home state of Victoria.
The Age's Jake Niall has suggested that St Kilda will use a future draft pick in a trade for disgruntled second-year player Nathan Freeman who is looking for a "fresh start".
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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West Coast is set to throw a major spanner in Geelong’s free agency plans by matching the Cats’ bid for on-baller Scott Selwood, potentially forcing Geelong to offer more at the trade table.
It sets Geelong a difficult task at the trade table if they have to find at least three premium draft picks or trade players to seal deals for Dangerfield, Selwood and Henderson in the October 9-22 exchange period.
Adelaide says its Dangerfield compensation pick (No. 14) is unacceptably low and is chasing a premium package of two early draft picks, possibly including a future pick from next year’s draft
Carlton are adamant Lachie Henderson is worth a first-round draft pick “and some”.
http://www.themercury.com.au/west-coast-set-to-match-geelongs-bid-for-out-of-favour-eagles-midfielder-scott-selwood/story-fnj3twbb-1227549526209
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Hmmm looks like Geelong's gonna need a bigger boat. But can they afford one? I suggest we trail along behind them and see who falls out.
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From Footy Classified tonight:
Leppitsch expects Aish to remain at Brisbane. Odds are "pretty good" and Aish is "pretty comfortable" with it.
Buckley on Freeman wanting to quit the Pies - "His problems will go with him wherever he'll go".
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Top 20 pick for Jack Watts :rollin
That just about made my night. Good luck with that one Dees
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Hutchy, Caro & Lyon tonight on F.C. mentioned Geelong offering up pick 9 & a player (Jordan Murdoch) to get the Dangerfield deal done.
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Hutchy, Caro & Lyon tonight on F.C. mentioned Geelong offering up pick 9 & a player (Jordan Murdoch) to get the Dangerfield deal done.
Jordan Murdoch and pick 9 is massive unders. Why is it thay every club seems to get a free kick except for us?!!
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Hutchy, Caro & Lyon tonight on F.C. mentioned Geelong offering up pick 9 & a player (Jordan Murdoch) to get the Dangerfield deal done.
Jordan Murdoch and pick 9 is massive unders. Why is it thay every club seems to get a free kick except for us?!!
It's actualy overs considering he's a free agent...
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Hutchy, Caro & Lyon tonight on F.C. mentioned Geelong offering up pick 9 & a player (Jordan Murdoch) to get the Dangerfield deal done.
Jordan Murdoch and pick 9 is massive unders. Why is it thay every club seems to get a free kick except for us?!!
It's actualy overs considering he's a free agent...
Considering Adelaide are matching the offer and forcing a trade its massive unders.
And my point was, when was the last time one of the comps best decided they wanted to come to Richmond, or we had 3-4 champion father sons all play their careers at the same time?
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David King told Fox Footy’s On The Couch that the Crows needed to “keep (pick 14) in the bargaining power somewhere”.
“You would assume that Geelong and Adelaide would organise something behind the scenes where pick 14 stays in the system and obviously Adelaide would get that,” King said.
The end result of King’s radical trade idea would look like this.
— Geelong gains: Patrick Dangerfield, pick 13 and a C-grade player (Jarryd Lyons)
— Adelaide gains: Pick 9, pick 14 (compensation pick) and an A-grade player (Cory Gregson).
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-radical-trade-for-geelong-and-adelaide-suggested-by-david-king-in-what-you-missed-on-tv-last-night/story-fnp04d70-1227549851305
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Hutchy, Caro & Lyon tonight on F.C. mentioned Geelong offering up pick 9 & a player (Jordan Murdoch) to get the Dangerfield deal done.
Jordan Murdoch and pick 9 is massive unders. Why is it thay every club seems to get a free kick except for us?!!
It's actualy overs considering he's a free agent...
Considering Adelaide are matching the offer and forcing a trade its massive unders.
And my point was, when was the last time one of the comps best decided they wanted to come to Richmond, or we had 3-4 champion father sons all play their careers at the same time?
ohh, poor baby
:nopity
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David King told Fox Footy’s On The Couch that the Crows needed to “keep (pick 14) in the bargaining power somewhere”.
“You would assume that Geelong and Adelaide would organise something behind the scenes where pick 14 stays in the system and obviously Adelaide would get that,” King said.
The end result of King’s radical trade idea would look like this.
— Geelong gains: Patrick Dangerfield, pick 13 and a C-grade player (Jarryd Lyons)
— Adelaide gains: Pick 9, pick 14 (compensation pick) and an A-grade player (Cory Gregson).
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-radical-trade-for-geelong-and-adelaide-suggested-by-david-king-in-what-you-missed-on-tv-last-night/story-fnp04d70-1227549851305
If Cory Gregson is an A-grade player then Grigg is a 3 time Brownlow medallist!!
It's simple Cats, 2015 1st Rounder and 2016 1st rounder for Dangerfield, and that's just a starting point.
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So explain like I'm five
Why do they get afl compensations picks
And Geelong giving them pick too ?
Why didn't Sydney give hawks anything buddy? What's the difference
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A club whose player is a restricted free agent has the right to match an offer. If they don't match it, they get a compensation pick. If they do match it, it forces a trade. Adelaide matched the offer because they want, and will get, a better trade outcome than the compensation pick.
Hawthorn didn't match Sydneys offer, not sure why but I assume they couldn't fit it into their salary cap.
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Adelaide should beat the offer and screw up Geelongs salary cap
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Really dont know why Geelong just dont say to Adelaide take the compo pick which gives the crows pick 13 and 14. Geelong then in a seperate trade, trade pick 9 to Adelaide for a promising player in return and swap their third for adelaides second to make the deal more palatable to the afl.
Draft tampering maybe maybe not.
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Giants' Adam Tomlinson could be headed home to Victoria during the Trade Period despite being contracted until the end of the 2017 season.
Carlton are leading the race.
- Tom Browne, Channel 7.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Do it
Chappy to the knackery
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Tomlinson should be a priority.
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
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If stuffing Hawthorn get O'Meara I hope he does his knees again - preferably against Collingwood in a high speed collision with Treloar's head...
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
You'd hand over a first round pick for Henderson? That's what the Blies reckon he is worth
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I reckon we all know that behind the scenes a lot of these deals are already done. All we are waiting for is trade week to finalise them...
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
You'd hand over a first round pick for Henderson? That's what the Blies reckon he is worth
You'd go into another year with troy the gimp as first choice kpp?
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I would happily hand over our first pick for Henderson. Bloke can play and is a very good defender. Big upgrade on Chaplin.
We're gonna get what, pick 12? Maybe 15 after some compo? In a draft that's shallow AF I don't see any problem with getting a ready made KPP with 100+ games under his belt.
Would hand it over for Carlisle too.
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I reckon we all know that behind the scenes a lot of these deals are already done. All we are waiting for is trade week to finalise them...
Plus all the endless speculation and theories keeps forums going
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I reckon we all know that behind the scenes a lot of these deals are already done. All we are waiting for is trade week to finalise them...
Plus all the endless speculation and theories keeps forums going
Don't they what!
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Re-sign or enter the draft: Lions' ultimatum to James Aish.
Leigh Matthews has told FIVEaa that Aish "will either be playing at the Lions in 2016 or he'll be going in the Draft. He won't be traded I can guarantee you."
Jon Ralph is calling this the clubs "line in the sand" moment.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-30/resign-or-enter-the-draft-lions-ultimatum-to-aish
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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I reckon we all know that behind the scenes a lot of these deals are already done. All we are waiting for is trade week to finalise them...
Plus all the endless speculation and theories keeps forums going
You forgot the whingeing too Chucky!
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Mmmmm, it's hotting up now... :laugh:
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Giants' Adam Tomlinson could be headed home to Victoria during the Trade Period despite being contracted until the end of the 2017 season.
Carlton are leading the race.
- Tom Browne, Channel 7.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Tomlinson and Carlisle would be my dream trade period. Along with a couple of cheap pick ups. It would shore up our tall fwd and tall defender stocks for the next 8 - 10 yrs.
We also need to play kids we already have who have good attributes to succeed.
FB: Vlastuin - Rance - Grimes
HB: McIntosh - Carlisle - Litherland whos contracted or Seedsman who is not.
MID: Deledio - Martin - Menadue
FOLL: Maric - Cotchin - Miles
HF: Lennon - Tomlinson - Butler
FF: Vickery - Riewoldt - Johnson
INT: Edwards - C Ellis - B Ellis - Houli.
New: Carlisle 198/102 kpd - Tomlinson 194/94 KPF/KPD - Johnson 189/95 FWD/MID - Litherland 192/88 DEF - Seedsman 190/85 DEF. Redden 205/104 RUCK.
Positionally these guys replace depending on opposition Carlisle for Chaplin. Tomlinson for One of Vickery or Griffiths. Johnson for any of Lloyd/Gordon/Morris/Newman What an upgrade.
Litherland for Batchelor and make no mistake hes a far better player than Batchelor. Or Seedsman same scenario. Redden as back up for big Ivan.
We also need to play Menadue, Lennon, Butler, and C Ellis in front of blokes who regularly crumble under pressure..
An instance where Carlisle would make a huge difference. We play against nm again, we could bring Elton or Chaplin into the team to go with Rance and Carlisle. AT 198cm Carlisle would get ben brown but is good enough to play on any of their talls he could be swung fwd if the need arose.. Chaplin/Elton should get petrie and Rance would go to Waite. The weak link remains Chaplin but at least its better than playing a 188cm bloke like Batchelor on the 195cm Waite which really bit us in the arse.
Tomlinson would enable endless possibilities. Lose a key defender and you could swing him back.He is agile and mobile enough to allow us if we wish to play Riewoldt hit up, McKenzie ff, Tomlinson chf and Vickery of the bench as more of a ruckman than a fwd.
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
You'd hand over a first round pick for Henderson? That's what the Blies reckon he is worth
Don't know, maybe? Was a decent player and we need another key back. Would depend on a few factors. But I'd rather Carlisle (feel he'd blend better with Rance) then Tomlinson (younger, massive tank, haven't heard question marks on his character) and Henderson last (good player but Q's over his character much like Carlisle but feel the mix between Carlisle and Rance would be better).
Then again, what do I know. I'm sure someone (two people in mind) will call me out on that
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
You'd hand over a first round pick for Henderson? That's what the Blies reckon he is worth
Don't know, maybe? Was a decent player and we need another key back. Would depend on a few factors. But I'd rather Carlisle (feel he'd blend better with Rance) then Tomlinson (younger, massive tank, haven't heard question marks on his character) and Henderson last (good player but Q's over his character much like Carlisle but feel the mix between Carlisle and Rance would be better).
Then again, what do I know. I'm sure someone (two people in mind) will call me out on that
I have been wanting us to have a crack at Tomlinson for two seasons now. H e finally asks to go back home and we wont even be sniffing. The GWS exodus will last for only so long.And there will never be another opportunity to target such good talls as this of season.
Imo it is something we have never got right and that is good structure with good depth. We have hardly ever in the last 30 yrs had enough quality talls and we fail to find them because we have rarely ever bothered to get enough in our system or use enough decent picks.
Only at Richmond would you go into a year with so few tall defenders and tall fwds With such a lack of quality bar two and expect to be top 4.
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Easy on, Tambing was a quality tall and franklin just wasnt big enough
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Carlisle, Henderson and now Tomlinson. Surely we should be aiming to nab one of them?
You'd hand over a first round pick for Henderson? That's what the Blies reckon he is worth
Don't know, maybe? Was a decent player and we need another key back. Would depend on a few factors. But I'd rather Carlisle (feel he'd blend better with Rance) then Tomlinson (younger, massive tank, haven't heard question marks on his character) and Henderson last (good player but Q's over his character much like Carlisle but feel the mix between Carlisle and Rance would be better).
Then again, what do I know. I'm sure someone (two people in mind) will call me out on that
I have been wanting us to have a crack at Tomlinson for two seasons now. H e finally asks to go back home and we wont even be sniffing. The GWS exodus will last for only so long.And there will never be another opportunity to target such good talls as this of season.
Imo it is something we have never got right and that is good structure with good depth. We have hardly ever in the last 30 yrs had enough quality talls and we fail to find them because we have rarely ever bothered to get enough in our system or use enough decent picks.
Only at Richmond would you go into a year with so few tall defenders and tall fwds With such a lack of quality bar two and expect to be top 4.
Some good points there, santa.
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the only probably with the tigers here are what can we give up lets be honest if we are wanting bennell & Yarran we will have to give up im thinking a high draft pick's we will be lucky to still have a first round pick if we want these 2... to try and attract Tomlinson we wont have anything unless they want a astbury,gordon,llyold,dea,thomas, which im thinking not...
carlisle would be great but Essendon would probably ask for martin or something stupid knowing them you are right we get to strong mids half back flanker we just need another tall :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Carlisle is a F.A isnt he? But agree with scjhammo, if we snag bennell and yarran I cant see us having much left to offer. Maybe we could offer 5k of our members?
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Don't forget we had a "war chest", so while Bennell might cost us IF he comes, Yarran shouldn't.
Money left over!!!!
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Melbourne's Jimmy Toumpas will be playing for Port Adelaide in 2016 - SEN.
Collingwood's Ben Kennedy is likely to be at Melbourne next season - SEN's Brett Anderson.
James Aish's preference remains a trade to Collingwood but he will only leave Brisbane if a clear path to the Pies is established -Fox Footy.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Aish and Treloar, wonder who the pies are offloading.
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Don't forget we had a "war chest", so while Bennell might cost us IF he comes, Yarran shouldn't.
Money left over!!!!
you cant buy players, you have to trade for them
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Offer enough coin u can
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Adelaide are leading the race for Western Bulldogs defender Michael Talia.Sydney was linked to the defender earlier in the year, Fox Footy understands they do not have a strong interest in his services.
Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season - SEN
Port Adelaide will offer the clubs Second Round Pick for Melbourne's Jimmy Toumpas.
Port Adelaide could part ways with utility Aaron Young to St Kilda, in what could form part of a three-way deal involving Toumpas and the Dees.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-melbournes-jimmy-toumpas-chased-by-port-adelaide/story-fnj3twbb-1227551774255
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Don't forget we had a "war chest", so while Bennell might cost us IF he comes, Yarran shouldn't.
Money left over!!!!
you cant buy players, you have to trade for them
Excuse me while I :scream
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Thought we were into Aaron Young?
I know he hasn't exactly set the world on fire so far but Jimmy Toumpas for a second rounder ain't too shabby....would take him over Watts who they supposedly want a pick in the early 20's for....
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Offer enough coin u can
:facepalm
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Melbourne is set to chase Sydney ace Luke Parker, says Sam 'Scoop' McClure.
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/melbourne-begins-preliminary-discussions-with-rising-star-jesse-hogan-says-scoop-20151001-gjzge0.html
Jake Carlisle set to speak with St Kilda.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-carlisle-set-to-speak-with-st-kilda-20151001-gjze8h.html
Essendon have confirmed that they are seeking pick 5 for Jake Carlisle if he goes to St Kilda.
One of the clubs expressing interest for Port Adelaide's Andrew Moore is Essendon, reportedly very interested.
https://twitter.com/afltrade
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Luke Parker :o
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I'd dump chasing going for all the others and seriously go for parker...this kid is a dead set gun
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If Melbourne land Parker Ill eat my hat.
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I would throw the crown jewells at getting this kid.
Hes as hard as nails
can mark like the talls
and can run .
hes got most of what we want
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Parker, bennel yarran, :mmmmmmmm nice
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Luke Parker :o
He isn't going anywhere
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Luke Parker :o
He isn't going anywhere
Yep agree
Speaking to a relative who is a long time swans supporter, he rates this bloke very highly and went as far as to say could be a future captain one day.
Though I agree with the sentiment we need a player just like this
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I will be glad when this GF crap is over so we can concentrate on the real end of the football season.. :snidegrin ;D
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I will be glad when this GF crap is over so we can concentrate on the real end of the football season.. :snidegrin ;D
:cheers
;D
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Monday HRT...MONDAY!!!!
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Bombers ball magnet #BrentStanton being courted by the trade aggressive @NMFCOfficial with a 2 year deal tabled whilst @EssendonFC offers 1
https://twitter.com/TonySheahan
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I will be glad when this GF crap is over so we can concentrate on the real end of the football season.. :snidegrin ;D
lol spoken like a true richmond supporter
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I will be glad when this GF crap is over so we can concentrate on the real end of the football season.. :snidegrin ;D
lol spoken like a true richmond supporter
:clapping
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All people concerned that will not get benell rest a shore
He will be in the black and yellow it would have to be a
Very very good spill by Ross and crew at freo to get him
Across the line I have seen him and dusty eating lunch
Together down chapel this week and they looked pretty
Happy benell looked relaxed hoping that's a sign people
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All people concerned that will not get benell rest a shore
He will be in the black and yellow it would have to be a
Very very good spill by Ross and crew at freo to get him
Across the line I have seen him and dusty eating lunch
Together down chapel this week and they looked pretty
Happy benell looked relaxed hoping that's a sign people
I like it ,,,,,,a lot :clapping
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yeah you would, most people would have trouble reading it
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:lol
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Rest a shored, it's a great spill.
They were probably high as kites. ;D
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Rest a shored, it's a great spill.
They were probably high as kites. ;D
Probably eating one of those west coast value meals.
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^^^ yeah with supersized coke :snidegrin
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:lol
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Essendon free agent Courtenay Dempsey has attracted the interest of the Sydney Swans as he waits to receive a contract offer from the Bombers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-02/swans-consider-uncontracted-free-agent-dempsey
Swans premiership defender Craig Bird could be open to a move this trade period. Bird, 26, is contracted for 2016 and remains a required player at the Swans, but if a suitable opportunity comes up at a rival club it is believed both Bird and the Swans would seriously consider an amicable parting.
The Swans are believed to have asked whether one of Callum Sinclair or Scott Lycett could be part of a trade for Lewis Jetta to the West Coast. The Swans' interest in the Eagles ruckmen complicates their pursuit of Matthew Leuenberger. Brisbane are also understood to be interested in the ruck duo. The Eagles will ramp up trade discussions on Jetta and Brisbane midfielder Jack Redden after the Grand Final.
The Swans and Essendon have also been pursuing out-of-contract Gold Coast ruckman Zac Smith, along with Geelong.
Collingwood forward Ben Kennedy is another contracted player believed to be considering a change of club in search of more senior opportunities. He has already been linked to Melbourne.
Hawthorn defender Matt Suckling could yet leave Waverley despite the Brisbane Lions' decision to withdraw its interest in the half-back. It's understood several rival clubs are circling.
Out-of-contract utility Jeremy Howe has attracted interest from rival clubs including Fremantle and Gold Coast.
Gold Coast is considered unlikely to pursue Steve Johnson with the veteran's future likely to become clearer later in the exchange period.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-02/trade-whispers-bird-could-fly-from-swans
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Wouldn't mind Ben Kennedy as a small forward. Has a lot of upside. Problem is Pies will be asking for too much.
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im stilled shocked we didnt get mummy
why are we not in for Leuenberger
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Bombers ball magnet #BrentStanton being courted by the trade aggressive @NMFCOfficial with a 2 year deal tabled whilst @EssendonFC offers 1
https://twitter.com/TonySheahan
Stanton turns 30 next year. So, he'll fit in at North lol.
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Bombers ball magnet #BrentStanton being courted by the trade aggressive @NMFCOfficial with a 2 year deal tabled whilst @EssendonFC offers 1
https://twitter.com/TonySheahan
Stanton turns 30 next year. So, he'll fit in at North lol.
:lol
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I think as others and I have said, if we could;
Get Bennell with our first rounder
Get Yarran with our second rounder
Look at trading Astbury/Conca for a ruckman & Backman this trade period would be very good. I wonder if the club is looking at a ruckman.
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Astbury to Brisbane as part of a trade for Redden IMO. Brisbane would never trade Andrews or McStay...
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Astbury to Brisbane as part of a trade for Redden IMO. Brisbane would never trade Andrews or McStay...
:thumbsup
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Astbury to Brisbane as part of a trade for Redden IMO. Brisbane would never trade Andrews or McStay...
McStay is a Melbourne lad, might be tempted tocome home.
:thumbsup
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Astbury to Brisbane as part of a trade for Redden IMO. Brisbane would never trade Andrews or McStay...
McStay is a Melbourne lad, might be tempted tocome home.
:thumbsup
Brisbane will never let him go. But I suppose you have to wonder if they'd consider trading a KPD for a KPD if they both want new homes?
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Clarke re-signed with Freo this week, not an option
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Sack Hartley. Can't even sign up players who don't want to move clubs :banghead
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Yep, should send Conca west as part of a deal for Lycett or Clarke.
Clarke re-signed with Freo this week, not an option
Shame, didn't know that. I guess with Sandi getting on he can see opportunity for more games. Should have had a shot a year or two ago...
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Sack Hartley. Can't even sign up players who don't want to move clubs :banghead
By 2:01pm, 22nd of October Blair Harley could well be the Messiah reincarnate 😉
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Sack Hartley. Can't even sign up players who don't want to move clubs :banghead
By 2:01pm, 22nd of October Blair Harley could well be the Messiah reincarnate 😉
Hope so 😊
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The trade rumour mill has put up Luke Parker as a chance of being lured south by Melbourne on a lucrative long-term contract.
Those whispers will not eventuate to anything further according to Jon Ralph who believes the Sydney midfielder is close to re-signing with the Swans.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/trade-sentral-luke-parker-bennell-stevie-j#9mmjV8pQkRvs20VM.99
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Talk about Suckling being put up for trade, would go ok at RFC?
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Talk about Suckling being put up for trade, would go ok at RFC?
Free agent?
I think he'd be another jordy mcmuffin
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Talk about Suckling being put up for trade, would go ok at RFC?
Free agent?
I think he'd be another jordy mcmuffin
Maybe but i think he would easily be in our best 15
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Talk about Suckling being put up for trade, would go ok at RFC?
I know form a very reliable source close to the player that there have been discussions. Not a lot has happened as he has been focusing on finals, but things could start ramping up soon. I don't get rumour information very often but this one fell in my lap completely out of the blue.
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Suckling would struggle if he wasn't at Hawthorn. Seems like the kind of player who should go to the GC and get overpaid whilst under achieving for the rest of his career.
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I thought it was amusing that as Jordan Lewis departed the podium after receiving his medal while nursing his baby son, the next player announced was Suckling...
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Suckling v Chaplin.....I know which one I would prefer.
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Suckling would struggle if he wasn't at Hawthorn. Seems like the kind of player who should go to the GC and get overpaid whilst under achieving for the rest of his career.
Melceski MK.II?
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I thought it was amusing that as Jordan Lewis departed the podium after receiving his medal while nursing his baby son, the next player announced was Suckling...
Very observant...
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Yarren deal done
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Yarren deal done
Link? Proof? Source?
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Just had a thought.
Seeing that the talk about town is Lennon to Carlton.
Would Tiger people be happy with :
Yarran+2nd round pick ---> Richmond
Lennon + (3rd round pick if needed) ---> Carlton
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Just had a thought.
Seeing that the talk about town is Lennon to Carlton.
Would Tiger people be happy with :
Yarran+2nd round pick ---> Richmond
Lennon + (3rd round pick if needed) ---> Carlton
So we would be giving up a first round pick and third round pick .....um no, not for me. Second rounder for Yarran and that's it, we need Lennon.
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Suckling would struggle if he wasn't at Hawthorn. Seems like the kind of player who should go to the GC and get overpaid whilst under achieving for the rest of his career.
Melceski MK.II?
Precisely. Except Malceski was actually not bad at one point.
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Just had a thought.
Seeing that the talk about town is Lennon to Carlton.
Would Tiger people be happy with :
Yarran+2nd round pick ---> Richmond
Lennon + (3rd round pick if needed) ---> Carlton
So we would be giving up a first round pick and third round pick .....um no, not for me. Second rounder for Yarran and that's it, we need Lennon.
true dat.
if it comes that we trade Lennon then you need to get a pick at least what we used on him. The success rate of picks over 20 drops right off.
the spanner in the works would be if Carlton were the club we are negotiating with as they hold the whip hand if Lennon himself wanted out
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So lets say Feo take Bennell now and Jetta...stuff me, they will be unstoppable and if they get that forward (forgot name) its GF win for them next year.
Meanwhile the Tigers will be 9th...whaooooo.. :banghead
All the teams will improve their stocks this year through FA/trade except us. We did right with Bennell but by stuff we have to get someone.
I will bet the Pies overtake us next year if they get Treloar and Redded/Aish..
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Got me stuffed that we're not looking at Carlisle.
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Got me stuffed that we're not looking at Carlisle.
Agree now and about 4 more!!!! Rucks, backs and mids.
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Got me stuffed that we're not looking at Carlisle.
they think chaplin is good at football ...
they think grigg is good at football
lunatic asylum
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So lets say Feo take Bennell now and Jetta...stuff me, they will be unstoppable and if they get that forward (forgot name) its GF win for them next year.
Meanwhile the Tigers will be 9th...whaooooo.. :banghead
All the teams will improve their stocks this year through FA/trade except us. We did right with Bennell but by stuff we have to get someone.
I will bet the Pies overtake us next year if they get Treloar and Redded/Aish..
Before you right off the entire FA & Trade period which I am pretty sure hasn't started yet as a disaster why don't you just let it play out ...
All we know about is what has been speculated and/ or reported by the media.
Have you ever considered for just a minute, that maybe; just maybe there is something brewing behind the scenes that the media isn't aware of? Which means we are not aware of?
At least before deeming it all a complete write off, disaster of Titantic proportions couldn't we just wait and see what actually happens.
Then dependant on actual results people can can go completely troppo, bag away to one's heart's content or perhaps actually hand out a miniscule of credit :thumbsup
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So lets say Feo take Bennell now and Jetta...stuff me, they will be unstoppable and if they get that forward (forgot name) its GF win for them next year.
Meanwhile the Tigers will be 9th...whaooooo.. :banghead
All the teams will improve their stocks this year through FA/trade except us. We did right with Bennell but by stuff we have to get someone.
I will bet the Pies overtake us next year if they get Treloar and Redded/Aish..
Before you right off the entire FA & Trade period which I am pretty sure hasn't started yet as a disaster why don't you just let it play out ...
All we know about is what has been speculated and/ or reported by the media.
Have you ever considered for just a minute, that maybe; just maybe there is something brewing behind the scenes that the media isn't aware of? Which means we are not aware of?
At least before deeming it all a complete write off, disaster of Titantic proportions couldn't we just wait and see what actually happens.
Then dependant on actual results people can can go completely troppo, bag away to one's heart's content or perhaps actually hand out a miniscule of credit :thumbsup
We're talkng about the RFC here, Willy. ......
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My fearless prediction:
Out: Lennon
In: Yarran...and hearty congratulations to Hartley, Hackson & Richardson for somehow managing to actually make our list worse. :gotigers
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So lets say Feo take Bennell now and Jetta...stuff me, they will be unstoppable and if they get that forward (forgot name) its GF win for them next year.
Meanwhile the Tigers will be 9th...whaooooo.. :banghead
All the teams will improve their stocks this year through FA/trade except us. We did right with Bennell but by stuff we have to get someone.
I will bet the Pies overtake us next year if they get Treloar and Redded/Aish..
Before you right off the entire FA & Trade period which I am pretty sure hasn't started yet as a disaster why don't you just let it play out ...
All we know about is what has been speculated and/ or reported by the media.
Have you ever considered for just a minute, that maybe; just maybe there is something brewing behind the scenes that the media isn't aware of? Which means we are not aware of?
At least before deeming it all a complete write off, disaster of Titantic proportions couldn't we just wait and see what actually happens.
Then dependant on actual results people can can go completely troppo, bag away to one's heart's content or perhaps actually hand out a miniscule of credit :thumbsup
Now WP, with all due respect, ;D, this exact same comment was made last year and we picked up Hampson........oh we will end up with someone, someone no one expected, someone like Grigg again. Then the RFC will turn around and say how well we have done to recruit in the needs of our team...CRAP!!!
All of the top players have gone, face it, the crap is left if anything at all and we will get them!! :snidegrin
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So lets say Feo take Bennell now and Jetta...stuff me, they will be unstoppable and if they get that forward (forgot name) its GF win for them next year.
Meanwhile the Tigers will be 9th...whaooooo.. :banghead
All the teams will improve their stocks this year through FA/trade except us. We did right with Bennell but by stuff we have to get someone.
I will bet the Pies overtake us next year if they get Treloar and Redded/Aish..
Before you right off the entire FA & Trade period which I am pretty sure hasn't started yet as a disaster why don't you just let it play out ...
All we know about is what has been speculated and/ or reported by the media.
Have you ever considered for just a minute, that maybe; just maybe there is something brewing behind the scenes that the media isn't aware of? Which means we are not aware of?
At least before deeming it all a complete write off, disaster of Titantic proportions couldn't we just wait and see what actually happens.
Then dependant on actual results people can can go completely troppo, bag away to one's heart's content or perhaps actually hand out a miniscule of credit :thumbsup
His a very frustrated supporter ;D Still Blowing off steam before the start of trading :lol
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My fearless prediction:
Out: Lennon
In: Yarran...and hearty congratulations to Hartley, Hackson & Richardson for somehow managing to actually make our list worse. :gotigers
I fear you are correct
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Pssst.........
.............................Ruckman.
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Yep, it was all a big laugh last year too, until the end of trade period and we had Hampson!!!!!
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Hamspud was the year before last WAT - last year bought us the recruiting coup of Hunt....
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Yep, it was all a big laugh last year too, until the end of trade period and we had Hampson!!!!!
The way Maric is going at present. Hampson could be a main Ruckman next season. He can ruck so don't write him off just yet. Vickery will hopefully have a better year who is also important in the ruck & forward. Did you take notice yesterday how important Hawthorn rely on their ruckman when the push forward. Hale & McEnvoy play huge parts & ain't spectacular
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Yep, it was all a big laugh last year too, until the end of trade period and we had Hampson!!!!!
Hampson was brought in at the end of 2013. Which is why its very important to hold onto Lennon (drafted same year).
The club stated that they wouldn't be looking to trade picks away during last years trade period on account of the high quality of the draft.
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Hamspud was the year before last WAT - last year bought us the recruiting coup of Hunt....
easy on him his blowing off steam today & is confused ;D
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Hamspud was the year before last WAT - last year bought us the recruiting coup of Hunt....
easy on him his blowing off steam today & is confused ;D
Also after years and years of this it is all just blurring into one big melting pot for him
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Yes that's right 2013..
So who are the star players we picked up last year during the trade/FA period???
I mean we must be going to get someone very very good this year because of our aggressiveness and war chest... :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Hamspud was the year before last WAT - last year bought us the recruiting coup of Hunt....
easy on him his blowing off steam today & is confused ;D
Also after years and years of this it is all just blurring into one big melting pot for him
It is mate, it is, since Nathan Brown its just been one big stuffing nightmare of failure during trade and FA... :'( :'(
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We got Hunt who has played one season to get used to the changes in his life & his surrounding. He could have a huge season 2016. who knows
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Ok now you're just taking the pee...
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Though I can see it now from the club after another underwhelming off-season....oh look we still think there's a lot of scope for improvement from within the list...blokes like Lambert & Hunt are only going to get better...Houli probably just missed out on All-Australian last year....Morro still has a lot to offer and a lot to prove after last year...Griff & Ty are only now coming into their prime...Sam Lloyd just keeps taking big steps....with the sub rule gone Shaun Hampson will be getting more chances and looking to step up......Chrissy Yarran adds another dimension....I think we're in a very good place to challenge again...
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Though I can see it now from the club after another underwhelming off-season....oh look we still think there's a lot of scope for improvement from within the list...blokes like Lambert & Hunt are only going to get better...Houli probably just missed out on All-Australian last year....Morro still has a lot to offer and a lot to prove after last year...Griff & Ty are only now coming into their prime...Sam Lloyd just keeps taking big steps....with the sub rule gone Shaun Hampson will be getting more chances and looking to step up....Chrissy Yarran adds another dimension....I think we're in a very good place to challenge again...
That's so spot on its scary.
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Though I can see it now from the club after another underwhelming off-season....oh look we still think there's a lot of scope for improvement from within the list...blokes like Lambert & Hunt are only going to get better...Houli probably just missed out on All-Australian last year....Morro still has a lot to offer and a lot to prove after last year...Griff & Ty are only now coming into their prime...Sam Lloyd just keeps taking big steps....with the sub rule gone Shaun Hampson will be getting more chances and looking to step up....Chrissy Yarran adds another dimension....I think we're in a very good place to challenge again...
That's so spot on its scary.
"That's what I'm talking about"!!!!!
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....Griggy excelled in his new role last year and really took his game to a new level, he'll be important again for us this year...Brando just gets better every year and is building towards becoming an elite player of the competition........
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:chuck
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We will not lure any A grade players this off season. I'm over it and it hasn't begun. :-\
Yarran will be all the business we see in the trade period with possibly the exception of trading out Astbury to Brisbane for an additional pick to make up for the one we give to Carlton for Yarran. Treloar and Dangerfield don't want to come to us, Bennell is an idiot and now we aren't interested in having him.
A year of planning by the RFC and we get buns. :banghead
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We will not lure any A grade players this off season. I'm over it and it hasn't begun. :-\
Yarran will be all the business we see in the trade period with possibly the exception of trading out Astbury to Brisbane for an additional pick to make up for the one we give to Carlton for Yarran. Treloar and Dangerfield don't want to come to us, Bennell is an idiot and now we aren't interested in having him.
A year of planning by the RFC and we get buns. :banghead
Exactly!!
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What a bunch of negative tripe being put on here. stuffing relax everyone, there's no point stressing about things we can't control. Bennell is loose, i think we dodged a bullet there. Dangerfield? Yeah, like we ever had a chance.
The only blokes worth recruiting are those that don't need to be peeed in their pockets to get them
Besides, as WP posted, trade month hasn't even started yet. We may actually already have something lined up. And his posts make more sense than anyone else's on here.
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What a bunch of negative tripe being put on here. stuffing relax everyone, there's no point stressing about things we can't control. Bennell is loose, i think we dodged a bullet there. Dangerfield? Yeah, like we ever had a chance.
The only blokes worth recruiting are those that don't need to be peeed in their pockets to get them
Besides, as WP posted, trade month hasn't even started yet. We may actually already have something lined up. And his posts make more sense than anyone else's on here.
RCGG!!!!
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Though I can see it now from the club after another underwhelming off-season....oh look we still think there's a lot of scope for improvement from within the list...blokes like Lambert & Hunt are only going to get better...Houli probably just missed out on All-Australian last year....Morro still has a lot to offer and a lot to prove after last year...Griff & Ty are only now coming into their prime...Sam Lloyd just keeps taking big steps....with the sub rule gone Shaun Hampson will be getting more chances and looking to step up......Chrissy Yarran adds another dimension....I think we're in a very good place to challenge again...
Wow this is good :bow
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We will not lure any A grade players this off season. I'm over it and it hasn't begun. :-\
Yarran will be all the business we see in the trade period with possibly the exception of trading out Astbury to Brisbane for an additional pick to make up for the one we give to Carlton for Yarran. Treloar and Dangerfield don't want to come to us, Bennell is an idiot and now we aren't interested in having him.
A year of planning by the RFC and we get buns. :banghead
A year of so called planning.
What a joke. poo club and poo people in recruitment.
Nothing changes
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Hahahaha. Pissa have a look. What a bunch of flogs!!!
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-04/trade-period-preview-who-is-your-club-targeting-and-who-is-leaving
First draft selection: No.12
Unsigned free agents: None
Delistings/retirements: Matt Arnot, Nathan Foley, Chris Newman, Chris Knights, Matt McDonough, Ricky Petterd
Who else is going?
Contracted defender David Astbury has attracted keen interest from the Brisbane Lions after spending most of this season in the VFL. The 24-year-old is contracted to the end of 2016, but after overcoming his past injury problems he played just four games this year. With Alex Rance and Troy Chaplin seemingly entrenched in Richmond's key defensive posts, Astbury is believed to favour a fresh start, but the Tigers, for the moment, are maintaining he is a required player.
Who's coming?
The Tigers met with Gold Coast's Harley Bennell on Wednesday, but ruled themselves out of the race on Sunday. Fremantle is now the early frontrunner for 2010's No.2 draft pick, although a host of other clubs are considering entering the race. Richmond appears to be the only serious suitor for contracted Carlton defender Chris Yarran, but the Blues will likely drive a hard bargain for 2008's No.6 draft pick.
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Oh so stuffing typical of the RFC.
The war chest with the aggressiveness shown LMFAO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Can someone change my nappy
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Can someone change my nappy
Don't get the RFC to do it, they will only put the dirty one on backwards and tell you what a great job they did!!
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Can someone change my nappy
Don't get the RFC to do it, they will only put the dirty one on backwards and tell you what a great job they did!!
your on fire today pal. Hungover?
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Is it the end of trade period?
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Can someone change my nappy
Don't get the RFC to do it, they will only put the dirty one on backwards and tell you what a great job they did!!
your on fire today pal. Hungover?
Lol. No the opposite., no drink for 8 days😂😂
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Is it the end of trade period?
May as well be the end result will be the same as it is now, oh aside from Yarran.😳😳😳
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Can someone change my nappy
Don't get the RFC to do it, they will only put the dirty one on backwards and tell you what a great job they did!!
your on fire today pal. Hungover?
Lol. No the opposite., no drink for 8 days😂😂
There's the problem right there!! :snidegrin
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Is it the end of trade period?
May as well be the end result will be the same as it is now, oh aside from Yarran.😳😳😳
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Is it the end of trade period?
May as well be the end result will be the same as it is now, oh aside from Yarran.😳😳😳
Go and break your 8 day drought. No richmond supporter should ever deprive themselves for so long.
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Is it the end of trade period?
May as well be the end result will be the same as it is now, oh aside from Yarran.😳😳😳
Go and break your 8 day drought. No richmond supporter should ever deprive themselves for so long.
Dry camp!!!
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight:
Melbourne is willing to trade Chris Dawes. Essendon and Freo were named because they are in need of key forwards.
Toumpas has told Melbourne he wants to be a traded.
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Dawes got pick 20 for Pies, Dees be lucky to get pick 40 in a weak draft
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Dees reckon they'll get something from Freo who are advertising they need a forward.
They may get back Colin Sylvia and Ross Lyon's Prelim post game transcript. Does that make sense?
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Brisbane’s Leuenberger, 27, will choose from the Swans and the Bombers, while Gold Coast Suns’ Smith, 25, is believed to be leaning towards either the Cats or the Bombers.
Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Sydney are also in the market for a ruckman.
West Coast ruckman Callum Sinclair told the Herald Sun he wants to stay in Perth to help lead the Eagles’ quest for premiership redemption next season.
Scott Lycett is contracted at West Coast until 2018 but could make a move after playing only six games this year. He was also overlooked for the Grand Final side.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-essendon-ruck-dilemma-may-be-solved-with-matthew-leuenberger-and-zac-smith-decide-their-futures/story-fnj3twbb-1227556597096
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Contracted to 2018. Obviously West Coast think highly of him to contract him for that long.
Get it done Tiges.
I'd accept Lycett for Conca in a straight swap.
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Unlike most by the looks of things I'm pretty happy with the thought of getting Yarran. But I also agree with most that we should only be offering our second round pick. After all they pretty much want him gone so we are in the box seat you would hope.
Now that Bennel is off the table we should throw the kitchen sink at Carlisle. I'd be more than happy to give up our first pick for this bloke. He is a very good player and could hold down a key back roll for the next 6,7,8, years. He has been bogged down with all the Essendon crap for such a long time i think his best footy is still yet to come.
A backline with Carlisle, Rance, Grimes, Vlastuin, Yarran and maybe a young guy like Castagna could do the job defensively most weeks but with also the run and carry of a top 4 side.
Just as important this trade period IMO is to off load a few others for picks or players. Why not take a rick? Our list isn't a top 4 list but our best 22 maybe could be if we are brave.
Astbury and our 3rd round pick for Redden from Brisbane would be a steal. Would be easily in our starting 18 and a player like Grigg would be squeezed out.
Griffiths for a second round pick. Griff isn't going to take us anywhere IMO. Trade now while he still has currency.
Conca for Lycett from WCE. Not a star be any stretch but could hold down a second ruck spot comfortably IMO. And Conca IMO is just an "in-betweener " not even in our best 22 IMO.
B. Ellis for Mitchell Grigg from Adelaide and maybe their 3 rounder. I just think Ellis is the most scared footballer I have ever seen in a Tigers jumper. Scared of getting hurt but by far worse than that, scared of making a mistake. And Mitchell is big bodied mid that we need. One less soft footballer can't hurt.
Morris and a 3rd rounder for Jake Neade from Port Adelaide. He could be the small forward we have lacked for as long as I can remember. And Morris seems to have had a line through his name.
So we could end up with
Carlisle
Yarran
Redden
Lycett
M. Grigg
Neade
And still have 1 pick in the second round, and a few after the 3 round.
And lose
Astbury
Griffiths
Conca
Ellis
Morris
All players with massive deficiencies that we wouldn't miss.
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Unlike most by the looks of things I'm pretty happy with the thought of getting Yarran. But I also agree with most that we should only be offering our second round pick. After all they pretty much want him gone so we are in the box seat you would hope.
Now that Bennel is off the table we should throw the kitchen sink at Carlisle. I'd be more than happy to give up our first pick for this bloke. He is a very good player and could hold down a key back roll for the next 6,7,8, years. He has been bogged down with all the Essendon crap for such a long time i think his best footy is still yet to come.
A backline with Carlisle, Rance, Grimes, Vlastuin, Yarran and maybe a young guy like Castagna could do the job defensively most weeks but with also the run and carry of a top 4 side.
Just as important this trade period IMO is to off load a few others for picks or players. Why not take a rick? Our list isn't a top 4 list but our best 22 maybe could be if we are brave.
Astbury and our 3rd round pick for Redden from Brisbane would be a steal. Would be easily in our starting 18 and a player like Grigg would be squeezed out.
Griffiths for a second round pick. Griff isn't going to take us anywhere IMO. Trade now while he still has currency.
Conca for Lycett from WCE. Not a star be any stretch but could hold down a second ruck spot comfortably IMO. And Conca IMO is just an "in-betweener " not even in our best 22 IMO.
B. Ellis for Mitchell Grigg from Adelaide and maybe their 3 rounder. I just think Ellis is the most scared footballer I have ever seen in a Tigers jumper. Scared of getting hurt but by far worse than that, scared of making a mistake. And Mitchell is big bodied mid that we need. One less soft footballer can't hurt.
Morris and a 3rd rounder for Jake Neade from Port Adelaide. He could be the small forward we have lacked for as long as I can remember. And Morris seems to have had a line through his name.
So we could end up with
Carlisle
Yarran
Redden
Lycett
M. Grigg
Neade
And still have 1 pick in the second round, and a few after the 3 round.
And lose
Astbury
Griffiths
Conca
Ellis
Morris
All players with massive deficiencies that we wouldn't miss.
Jeez, they'd be earning their money if they managed that much over the TP. I doubt they will change the list up that much in one season, but we should be looking to be aggressive, give up some of our players with currency in order to fill gaps.
Don't want to see B Ellis leave, I don't think he's scared, he's just a genuine outside runner type. Look at his u18 highlights, the kid used to smash himself.
If we could snag Redden, Yarran and a KP/Ruckman I'd be satisfied without being excited. Still reeling a little from missing out on Treloar and now Bennell.
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Richmond is now out of the race for Harley Bennell, as the Herald Sun’s Jay Clark reported exclusively.
But after overlooking him and missing out on GWS star Adam Treloar and Port Adelaide smooth mover Hamish Hartlett, what is plan D for the Tigers?
One club insider said last week the chatter between clubs about star players still contracted is mind-blowing, with Tom Boyd/Ryan Griffen-style bombshells still yet to come.
Does Richmond list manager Blair Hartley have an open cheque book to chase and drag down a big name Cyril Rioli-style?
http://www.themercury.com.au/hawthorns-rivals-will-have-to-step-up-in-trade-free-agency-writes-jon-ralph/story-fnj3twbb-1227556743624
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AFL trade period 2015: Your club-by-club guide
Matt Murnane
The Age
October 5, 2015
Ahead of what is expected to be another explosive trade and free-agency period, we take a club-by-club look at the dramas on the cards for the next few weeks.
RICHMOND
Who's in play?
The club remains confident of re-signing Ben Lennon, the former No.12 draft pick from 2013, and does not want to use him in any deal for Carlton's rebounding defender Chris Yarran. David Astbury is contracted but Brisbane have enquired about the key defender's status.
What's the priority?
The Tigers have pulled out of the race for Harley Bennell after meeting with him last week. Made a big play for Adam Treloar but were beaten to the punch by Collingwood. It seems only a matter of when and at what price for Yarran. Would they consider looking at someone like Steve Johnson?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-your-clubbyclub-guide-20151004-gk0w8t.html
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What a bunch of negative tripe being put on here. stuffing relax everyone, there's no point stressing about things we can't control. Bennell is loose, i think we dodged a bullet there. Dangerfield? Yeah, like we ever had a chance.
The only blokes worth recruiting are those that don't need to be peeed in their pockets to get them
Besides, as WP posted, trade month hasn't even started yet. We may actually already have something lined up. And his posts make more sense than anyone else's on here.
Trelor ?
He wants to go to te club ith the goo young list
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looking forward to all the rumours to come out on bennelll shortly out Thursday night with his mate DM, wonder if that was a plan to see how keen he was missed the medical anyway another one bites the dust... we will not improve by just picking up Yarran and a couple of young kids... we need to pull our heads out of backsides and get a player that can take us to the next level there is plenty of money and for the right person throw it at him :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Richmond is now out of the race for Harley Bennell, as the Herald Sun’s Jay Clark reported exclusively.
But after overlooking him and missing out on GWS star Adam Treloar and Port Adelaide smooth mover Hamish Hartlett, what is plan D for the Tigers?
One club insider said last week the chatter between clubs about star players still contracted is mind-blowing, with Tom Boyd/Ryan Griffen-style bombshells still yet to come.
Does Richmond list manager Blair Hartley have an open cheque book to chase and drag down a big name Cyril Rioli-style?
http://www.themercury.com.au/hawthorns-rivals-will-have-to-step-up-in-trade-free-agency-writes-jon-ralph/story-fnj3twbb-1227556743624
:lol :lol :lol :lol just :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Fortune favors the brave
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Fortune favors the brave
No fortune for us then!!
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Honestly some of you carry on like pole smokers just chill
We don't need big fish or huge name players we just need to find the best player to fill the roles we need, if that means the player is well known then so be it. If not in the case of a Miles type even better.
But I would be extremely suprised if Dan Richardson And Hartley etc are running around trying to sign players from their footy card collection ::)
Speculation is great, I love to discuss but let's not blow our load before we get inside eh? :shh
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this is just outrageous! To suggest people are pole smokers is just utter ball cupping and bottom sniffing! I gave up smoking years ago anyway
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Honestly some of you carry on like pole smokers just chill
We don't need big fish or huge name players we just need to find the best player to fill the roles we need, if that means the player is well known then so be it. If not in the case of a Miles type even better.
But I would be extremely suprised if Dan Richardson And Hartley etc are running around trying to sign players from their footy card collection ::)
Speculation is great, I love to discuss but let's not blow our load before we get inside eh? :shh
Role players... Like Houli Hampson grigg Chaplin Thomas
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Lewis Jetta has officially nominated West Coast as his destination club of choice. - AFL Trade Radio
“I think Jack Watts desperately wants to be at Melbourne and I think he’ll be playing there. They might be," - Paul Connors on whether Melbourne might be exploring options for Jack Watts.
Jake Carlisle will make a decision by Thursday on his destination club in 2016 with the suitors for the key position player now between St Kilda and Carlton, the later of which he is meeting with today. - AFL Trade Radio
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Tigers still have deals to make despite misses
So far this off-season Richmond has failed to lure young gun Adam Treloar to the club and decided against trading in Suns bad boy Harley Bennell.
However, the Tigers are believed to be working hard to bring a quality player to the club that can help them at the pointy end of the season.
“I’m just hearing though around the traps that Richmond has got something going on,” said Anderson.
“There was a sense even before the Harley Bennell announcement that the tigers have at least got something in the works.”
http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/trade-sentral-stevie-j-tigers-leuenberger#vJKLd8DY25JIvFvM.97
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Tigers still have deals to make despite misses
So far this off-season Richmond has failed to lure young gun Adam Treloar to the club and decided against trading in Suns bad boy Harley Bennell.
However, the Tigers are believed to be working hard to bring a quality player to the club that can help them at the pointy end of the season.
“I’m just hearing though around the traps that Richmond has got something going on,” said Anderson.
“There was a sense even before the Harley Bennell announcement that the tigers have at least got something in the works.”
http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/trade-sentral-stevie-j-tigers-leuenberger#vJKLd8DY25JIvFvM.97
I remember a post earlier in this thread from BF some one saying Richmond have their big fish and that they have worked really hard for it and its just a signature away.
With latest reports from a few reporters that we are working hard and have something in the works makes it more believable.
BLOODY HELL BRING ON THE REAL SEASON THIS MONDAY!!!! love trade week whispers.
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Oh yes, please, can't wait to see who the "big fish" is... :snidegrin
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People keep bringing up Jager O'Meara on those forums. Maybe we pulled out of the Bennell race cause we'll be snagging JOM instead :shh
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probably brian lake hahaha :banghead
farren ray :banghead :banghead
craig bird :banghead :banghead
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probably brian lake hahaha :banghead
farren ray :banghead :banghead
craig bird :banghead :banghead
We couldn't possibly snare Jordan McMahon again could we? #massivecoup
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People keep bringing up Jager O'Meara on those forums. Maybe we pulled out of the Bennell race cause we'll be snagging JOM instead :shh
stuff, i had to look twice at " JOM."
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probably brian lake hahaha :banghead
farren ray :banghead :banghead
craig bird :banghead :banghead
We couldn't possibly snare Jordan McMahon again could we? #massivecoup
We will if we get Suckling
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People keep bringing up Jager O'Meara on those forums. Maybe we pulled out of the Bennell race cause we'll be snagging JOM instead :shh
stuff, i had to look twice at " JOM."
It should really be "JO'M". Cant' disrespect his Irish roots..
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People keep bringing up Jager O'Meara on those forums. Maybe we pulled out of the Bennell race cause we'll be snagging JOM instead :shh
stuff, i had to look twice at " JOM."
It should really be "JO'M". Cant' disrespect his Irish roots..
Looks to similar to JON for my liking.
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Talking on SEN now that the RFC have all other football managers thinking that the have an iron in the fire somewhere and that they have a player they are targeting, but no one knows.
FFS, I hope the RFC know.. :snidegrin
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Talking on SEN now that the RFC have all other football managers thinking that the have an iron in the fire somewhere and that they have a player they are targeting, but no one knows.
FFS, I hope the RFC know.. :snidegrin
Anderson said he can't see it being Luke Parker as he can't see Parker leaving the Swans.
Melbourne targeting Dion Prestia who is out of contract next year. Prestia has some coterie connection to the Dees.
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
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Talking on SEN now that the RFC have all other football managers thinking that the have an iron in the fire somewhere and that they have a player they are targeting, but no one knows.
FFS, I hope the RFC know.. :snidegrin
Maybe they're dragging up Colemans bones?
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Big Fish??? Big man maybe but big fish??
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
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Well let's see what happens.
Plenty of time to crank it up.
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Q. With tigers pulling out for Bennell are they chasing anyone else or just focusing on yarran?
@clarkyheraldsun - Yarran and another ruckman would be nice.
http://www.themercury.com.au/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnj3twbb-1227556382433
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Geelong looking at getting Herderson, Dangerfield and Sellwood....FFS, really, now this is aggressive.
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Geelong looking at getting Herderson, Dangerfield and Sellwood....FFS, really, now this is aggressive.
And Zac Smith.
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Geelong looking at getting Herderson, Dangerfield and Sellwood....FFS, really, now this is aggressive.
And Zac Smith.
If they end up with that lot we may as well take up netball.. ;D
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
The question is where Lobbe fits in at Port. Can Port play Ryder, Schulz, Westhoff as well as Lobbe in the same side? They couldn't this year.
Lobbe may want to stay at Port; his manager may want him to remain at Port; Port may want to keep him (especially with the WADA hearing hanging over Ryder) BUT if Port and Lobbe are both offered a good deal then that may alter Port's thinking. That's what the SA-based bloke on SEN said.
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
The question is where Lobbe fits in at Port. Can Port play Ryder, Schulz, Westhoff as well as Lobbe in the same side? They couldn't this year.
Lobbe may want to stay at Port; his manager may want him to remain at Port; Port may want to keep him (especially with the WADA hearing hanging over Ryder) BUT if Port and Lobbe are both offered a good deal then that may alter Port's thinking. That's what the SA-based bloke on SEN said.
Yeah I just heard that too. He will stay.
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Jetta to WCE, Bennell to Freo, these sides will be unstoppable next year.. :-\
Even the Dees, Roos and Blues are being more active.
Oh hang on we are linked to Yarran.. :snidegrin
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Jetta to WCE, Bennell to Freo, these sides will be unstoppable next year.. :-\
Even the Dees, Roos and Blues are being more active.
Oh hang on we are linked to Yarran.. :snidegrin
and " big fish"
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Jetta to WCE, Bennell to Freo, these sides will be unstoppable next year.. :-\
Even the Dees, Roos and Blues are being more active.
Oh hang on we are linked to Yarran.. :snidegrin
and " big fish"
Paul Salmon to be our new ruck & forward coach.... :shh
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probably brian lake hahaha :banghead
farren ray :banghead :banghead
craig bird :banghead :banghead
We couldn't possibly snare Jordan McMahon again could we? #massivecoup
:lol
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
Bit like my sex life really.
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
Bit like my sex life really.
:lol
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North Melbourne could lose Aaron Black to a trade, with the forward considering his options. His manager Jason Dover has said on Trade Radio this afternoon; "He made the decision to stay at North Melbourne through loyalty. In hindsight, we could've look at that differently. Hopefully we can explore some opportunities which might mean a fresh start for Aaron."
Essendon are now front-runners to secure Matthew Leuenberger as a free agent. The ruckman has played a touch over 40 games in the past four seasons, and Trade Radio believe the Lions will not receive a first-round compensation pick for the injury-riddled big fella. - AFL Trade Radio
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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According to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news, Jake Carlisle to decide between St Kilda (had a medical there today) and Carlton. He's being offered $700k p.a.
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According to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news, Jake Carlisle to decide between St Kilda (had a medical there today) and Carlton. He's being offered $700k p.a.
Essendon are now front-runners to secure Matthew Leuenberger as a free agent. The ruckman has played a touch over 40 games in the past four seasons, and Trade Radio believe the Lions will not receive a first-round compensation pick for the injury-riddled big fella. - AFL Trade Radio
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
:facepalm
:facepalm
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
Back to Perth
Freo were linked earlier this year I've heard
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
Back to Perth
Freo were linked earlier this year I've heard
Wasn't that last year or year before but he re-signed? Not to say they couldn't still be in his ear I guess.
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
We could get him on the black market I guess! ;D
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
Me too.
North would want to screw us as per usual taking the bs high moral ground.
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
We could get him on the black market I guess! ;D
Careful you will be accused of racism :whistle
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
We could get him on the black market I guess! ;D
Careful you will be accused of racism :whistle
:lol :shh
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Would anyone go for Aaron Black? Reckon he'd be worth a punt
I'd certainly look at him.
Wouldn't cost much
We could get him on the black market I guess! ;D
Careful you will be accused of racism :whistle
Aaron Black is white bro.
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...and Darryl White is black....go figure...
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Back to the topic, ppl!
@mightytiges - "Hi Brett, any word/idea/rumours/clues on what this apparent "big fish" is that player managers say Richmond is chasing?"
@BrettAndersonIF - "No. We are all trying to work it out."
@Barrot01 - "is that what you are hearing or gut feel Brett that the tigers working on a big fish? Reason why no Harley?"
@BrettAndersonIF - "Hearing. They have the money to chase someone"
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
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For some reason I'm getting an error message when I try to post a copy of the text (one-eyed?)....anyway this is probably complete bollocks - was posted on BF just now, so make of it what you will.....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris-yarran-requested-trade-to-richmond.1114240/page-10#post-41337794
...poster went on to say in his next post that the player involved was from Hawthorn.....
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For some reason I'm getting an error message when I try to post a copy of the text (one-eyed?)....anyway this is probably complete bollocks - was posted on BF just now, so make of it what you will.....
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris-yarran-requested-trade-to-richmond.1114240/page-10#post-41337794
...poster went on to say in his next post that the player involved was from Hawthorn.....
Boy o'h boy!!!
And I thought I could troll ;D
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Yeah it all looks very suss....he's going to delete it at 1 am haha....flog....
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Yeah it all sounds very suss....he's going to delete it at 1 am haha....flog....
Haha, yes 2 hours and 10 minutes until the post is compleatly forgotten about LMFAO!!
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Who on Hawks list would you pay $1-1.2million/year?
Nobody surely.
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For some reason I'm getting an error message when I try to post a copy of the text (one-eyed?)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris-yarran-requested-trade-to-richmond.1114240/page-10#post-41337794
Doesn't like the word "sl-ot". So it's a word-filter by our website hosts. They use it to block gambling spam. Same thing happens with any text containing po-ker.
Need to add a hyphen like this in each occurrence of "sl-ot" or "sl-ots" to be able to copy and paste.
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Ok cheers...here's the post in case old mate deletes it....
Guys, I'm not sure where to post this so just let me know if I should post it elsewhere.
This post is only staying up for 3 hours or so - I'll be editing this post at around 1am so nobody else can read it. I chose here since I recognised a lot of respected posters in this thread, and I want you guys to be the first to know.
There's more to the Bennell story than meets the eye - and it's good. We dropped Harley for a good reason.
You know how we have pay structures? The way it was described to me was that we've spent the last 3-4 years opening up 2 free "sl-ots" for big name players, open in 5-year chunks, and we're prepared to fill those this year and next year for the right players. He didn't go into detail about what a "sl-ot" is worth, but my speculation is a sl-ot = 500k, or maybe 600k. Anyway, fine print aside, Harley was going to take up one of those sl-ots in our pay structure. Then the Grand Final happened and a certain player who is close to Dimma and few of the Richmond boys unexpectedly had his manager get in touch with Blair. We've now offered our TWO sl-ots to this one guy, and we had to ask Harley whether he'd accept a significantly reduced contract so he'd fit into the rung below. His manager told us no, so we agreed to the awkward missed a medical excuse (which was true, but wasn't why we dropped him) and left the door slightly ajar for Harley in case he changes his mind.
Anyway, I didn't want a hundred PM requests so I'll say it now - that's all I'm prepared to put "out there". If I make it too obvious it could ruin my friendship with someone I've known for years, and the player in question would be devastated as he's pretty popular and they have no idea he felt this way.
I believe the player was a Richmond supporter as a kid, and he's coming home. Do not repeat his name. I'll be editing this post around 1am tonight, so I ask anybody who is online tonight to keep this to themselves and DO NOT repeat it in your own posts. Please respect me and I'll respect you.
Go Tiges.
...as I said...make of it what you will though I'm inclined to call b.s. on it at this stage.....
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Who on Hawks list would you pay $1-1.2million/year?
Nobody surely.
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/491090932-cyril-rioli-of-the-hawks-celebrates-with-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXuIXrO3pO1EbcNI0M7tdDW%2F7oNjXbfZ0gkt0y2pszeEEbpyFb5svtCWg%2Be4XCfvWiQ%3D%3D)
Now we're really wishful thinking! :snidegrin
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Who on Hawks list would you pay $1-1.2million/year?
Nobody surely.
Rioli & Hodge are the only two I can think of who supported Richmond...Hodge is surely too old and I'm only guessing in Rioli's case ...had just as much, if not more reason to support Essendon.........
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Surely the only guys worth big money and will longevity left in them are Roughead and Rioli (as far as marquis players are concerned). Gunston or Smith would be nice. Even Shiels or Breust. But none of those last 4 are worth two '$lots'.
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Actually I think Roughead supported Richmond too....but he's no spring chicken either - same age as Deledio...
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thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
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Another thing is ....why would a Hawthorn player be having his manager contacting us in the midst of celebrating a premiership?
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Why is it definitely a Hawks player?
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The poster said it was in a later post.
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Gawd. Pretty sure it must be bs then. Hodge is the only one I know who barracked for the Tigs. Rioli was a bummer as I understand.
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W.L :shh
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Rioli pls
Fortune Favour the brave
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thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
Whys that sweet pea?
Won four flags he'd be over it
More money
Uncle tigers champ
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LOL your being trolled. 'It's not happening! No chance a Hawks player is coming to us. Our Coach is too scared of Clarkson so won't happen. His too scared to pinch the fitness guy let alone a player!
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Another thing is ....why would a Hawthorn player be having his manager contacting us in the midst of celebrating a premiership?
I think the post itself is rubbish but in answer to your question
Managers have talking to clubs for months, so things like this aren't necessarily "recent" discussions
thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
Agreed,but it was good for one of these :lol
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Stranger things have happened
The Great War started after te assassin of the duke gave up, as went to the deli for a ham roll
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thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
Whys that sweet pea?
Won four flags he'd be over it
More money
Uncle tigers champ
dont be too upset I'm sure youll get the mantle back.
Its not so much what is said ( which is still tooth fairy stuff) but the the whole post in general.
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
:facepalm
Just embarrassing... :facepalm
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
:facepalm
Just embarrassing... :facepalm
Let's wait for the trade/FA period to start. The media have shown they don't anymore a clue than we do with what's going on behind the scenes.
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
The question is where Lobbe fits in at Port. Can Port play Ryder, Schulz, Westhoff as well as Lobbe in the same side? They couldn't this year.
Lobbe may want to stay at Port; his manager may want him to remain at Port; Port may want to keep him (especially with the WADA hearing hanging over Ryder) BUT if Port and Lobbe are both offered a good deal then that may alter Port's thinking. That's what the SA-based bloke on SEN said.
Yeah I just heard that too. He will stay.
Hands off Lobbe
Port Adelaide has moved to declare contracted ruckman Matthew Lobbe is not a trade prospect this year.
The Power's vice-captain, who took time to find the right balance with ruck recruit Paddy Ryder this season, is contracted for the next three seasons.
The Adelaide Advertiser is reporting Lobbe is determined to stay at Port, which is equally as keen to keep him, despite the hot competition for talls at Alberton.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/trade-winds-aish-set-for-new-deal-with-lions
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
:facepalm
Just embarrassing... :facepalm
Let's wait for the trade/FA period to start. The media have shown they don't anymore a clue than we do with what's going on behind the scenes.
Yes lets, with baited breath..
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Apparently Hawthorn will be making an announcement later today
Speculation is that Lake has not been offered a new contract
would you take Brian Lake for 12 months?
Would be fun to watch all the finger pointing between him and Chaplin :shh
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
:facepalm
Just embarrassing... :facepalm
Let's wait for the trade/FA period to start. The media have shown they don't anymore a clue than we do with what's going on behind the scenes.
Yes lets, with baited breath..
:lol
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Apparently Hawthorn will be making an announcement later today
Speculation is that Lake has not been offered a new contract
would you take Brian Lake for 12 months?
Would be fun to watch all the finger pointing between him and Chaplin :shh
I'd definitely take Lake for a year.
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Forget Lake, he just retired!!
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AFL trades: Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Herald-Sun
October 6, 2015
RICHMOND
Any A-grade midfielders want to join the Tigers? Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar (and apparently wasn’t happy about it) and is now out of the race for Harley Bennell. The troubled former Sun partied late after the Grand Final edition of the Footy Show and had to reschedule a medical at Punt Rd the next day, which apparently didn’t send the message the Tigers were hoping for after he toured club facilities earlier in the week. Richmond has reportedly had a crack at David Armitage, Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel in the past 12 months — plus Treloar and Bennell — and come up with doughnuts.
One player they will get is Chris Yarran, but it might take a while with the Blues demanding the Tigers’ top pick (12) and Richmond offering its second-rounder.
The Tigers have dismissed speculation Ben Lennon could be part of a deal with the Blues but David Astbury could be looking for a new home.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756?sv=ab2492529408650279921d928c5fb
:facepalm
Just embarrassing... :facepalm
Let's wait for the trade/FA period to start. The media have shown they don't anymore a clue than we do with what's going on behind the scenes.
The media had some idea
But now we apparently no chance of a Half decent player they know nothing?
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thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
Whys that sweet pea?
Won four flags he'd be over it
More money
Uncle tigers champ
dont be too upset I'm sure youll get the mantle back.
Its not so much what is said ( which is still tooth fairy stuff) but the the whole post in general.
:o
Imposing your negatative vibes on a group of supporters that live on hope is trolling so take a hike
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:banghead :banghead :banghead for people to suggest to look at lake come on people lets be real here we need to find a runner which will be yarran of the hbf which will move nick to the wing or on ball will be a different player . we capture this small forward that we all know we need that can give us 30-40 goals a year and another mid which will allow us to have dids,martin stay forward that bit longer to give us another avenue to the goals we will be fine... all talk as long as other clubs are getting stronger and were just staying stail we will be alright come on we were a kick out from finishing 4th probably beat the eagles and make a prelim....
a lot of talk we are into JOM and Dion from GC id probably look at Dion more as id be thinking JOM would want to go back to WA at sometime..
GO U TIGERS :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I WILL REPEAT MYSELF USING CAPITALS, IT DOESNT MATTER, LAKE HAS RETIRED AND SO HAS HALE!!
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I didn't suggest Lake, I asked the question who would want him?
Two very different things, perhaps lay off the red cordial at lunch :shh
By The way, watch the hawks pickup somone like henderson and one of these senior rucks floating around and rejuvenate the list again
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LOL your being trolled. 'It's not happening! No chance a Hawks player is coming to us. Our Coach is too scared of Clarkson so won't happen. His too scared to pinch the fitness guy let alone a player!
Surely sir Dimma is nae scared of Clarko? If so he is truly a flog
A hartung, Andersen, hill type is in te realms of possibility no?
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LOL your being trolled. 'It's not happening! No chance a Hawks player is coming to us. Our Coach is too scared of Clarkson so won't happen. His too scared to pinch the fitness guy let alone a player!
Surely sir Dimma is bit scared of Claro? If so he is truly a flog
A hartung, Andersen, hill type is in te realms of possibility no?
Ratts Monkhurst....
he wont do it. Liker Knighter has suggested he wouldnt have the balls to upset al clarko or heaven forbid actually improve our footy club with some of their talent.
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I WILL REPEAT MYSELF USING CAPITALS, IT DOESNT MATTER, LAKE HAS RETIRED AND SO HAS HALE!!
Nice use of caps :clapping
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I WILL REPEAT MYSELF USING CAPITALS, IT DOESNT MATTER, LAKE HAS RETIRED AND SO HAS HALE!!
Nice use of caps :clapping
;D :snidegrin
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I didn't suggest Lake, I asked the question who would want him?
Two very different things, perhaps lay off the red cordial at lunch :shh
By The way, watch the hawks pickup somone like henderson and one of these senior rucks floating around and rejuvenate the list again
Pretty sure the Roos are preparing a 3 year deal for Lake and Hale who is a spring chicken to them
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The way the RFC is being run is shortsighted.
They'd be Happy to win one flag and then back to bottom eight next year.
Reality being they won't even win one flag with the current list, coach and it's rate of development/lack off, whereas Hawthorn with 3 in a row or 4 over a the last few years.
It's all dimmer can do is to win ONE FINAL.
LOL
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I didn't suggest Lake, I asked the question who would want him?
Two very different things, perhaps lay off the red cordial at lunch :shh
By The way, watch the hawks pickup somone like henderson and one of these senior rucks floating around and rejuvenate the list again
Pretty sure the Roos are preparing a 3 year deal for Lake and Hale who is a spring chicken to them
:clapping
Too bad we can't beat those geriatrics
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The way the RFC is being run is shortsighted.
They'd be Happy to win one flag and then back to bottom eight next year.
You are so right it is scary, kudos to you
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Eagles have pulled out of the Bennell race but Redden has nominated to go there....poor buggers having him up their sleeve.. :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Luke Parker’s manager shoots down trade rumour.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-luke-parkers-manager-shoots-down-trade-rumour/story-fnj3twbb-1227558879802
Ned Guy from McDonald Sports has said his client Matt Crouch. "I believe my colleague Alex (McDonald) is working through a deal with Adelaide now. He's a like for like with Scott Thompson. The sub rule hurt him at times." - Trade Radio
Hawthorn midfielder Jono Simpkin will make a call on his playing future in the coming days, and is likely to request a trade out of the Hawks. His manager Ned Guy told Trade Radio, "The Hawks are keen to keep him ... he couldn't have had a better year in the VFL. But he did, at the end of the day only have one senior game this year.. and it's 20 games in the last two years, and 19 of them were the year before. He's going to have to make a call." - Trade Radio
Delisted Saint, Tom Simpkin could be given a lifeline, with several clubs having shown interest in the 191cm, 90kg defender. "There's a bit of interest in Tom Simpkin so hopefully we can work something out," Said his manager, Ned Guy. "He finished the season really strongly in the VFL, he's got a couple of opportunities as a de-listed free agent." - Trade Radio.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
The question is where Lobbe fits in at Port. Can Port play Ryder, Schulz, Westhoff as well as Lobbe in the same side? They couldn't this year.
Lobbe may want to stay at Port; his manager may want him to remain at Port; Port may want to keep him (especially with the WADA hearing hanging over Ryder) BUT if Port and Lobbe are both offered a good deal then that may alter Port's thinking. That's what the SA-based bloke on SEN said.
Yeah I just heard that too. He will stay.
Hands off Lobbe
Port Adelaide has moved to declare contracted ruckman Matthew Lobbe is not a trade prospect this year.
The Power's vice-captain, who took time to find the right balance with ruck recruit Paddy Ryder this season, is contracted for the next three seasons.
The Adelaide Advertiser is reporting Lobbe is determined to stay at Port, which is equally as keen to keep him, despite the hot competition for talls at Alberton.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/trade-winds-aish-set-for-new-deal-with-lions
Apparently, Warren Tredrea over in SA reckons Richmond are willing to trade pick 12 for Lobbe. Hinkley is keen to keep Lobbe but there is pressure from others at Port to trade him.
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Pick 12 for Lobbe while Essendon get Luenberger for free....Blair is the man! :bow
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Also, David Schwarz on SEN earlier was claiming Richmond is still in the hunt for Treloar. Reckon he is just winding up Tiger supporters as that horse has already bolted to the Pies.
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thats the greatest pile of bull plop i have read in a long long time
Agreed,but it was good for one of these :lol
Agree, but have to give him credit for the effort. Not a bad effort at trying to make in convincing.
Although, if we have "two $500k" slots, would Yarran not be planning to be roughly in there? Can't imagine he's coming cheap
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Also, David Schwarz on SEN earlier was claiming Richmond is still in the hunt for Treloar. Reckon he is just winding up Tiger supporters as that horse has already bolted to the Pies.
Him and KB were having a bit of a stand off. DS claimed he was 100% collingwood, KB 100% Richmond. I'd say its almost definitely trolling.
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Jake Carlisle to nominate St Kilda as his preferred club. Carlton have cooled on him. Both clubs offering 3-year deals but the Saints will pay him $700k p.a. to the Blues $500k.
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Pick 12 for Lobbe while Essendon get Luenberger for free....Blair is the man! :bow
Why the hell are we not in for burger
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Matthew Lobbe has officially told Port Adelaide that he is 'open' to a trade back to Victoria, despite being contracted for four more years at the Power. Port Adelaide have 'emphatically' told him they will not be trading him. - AFL Trade Radio
Brett Anderson on SEN just said there's some word around of Richmond being linked to Matthew Lobbe.
Lobbe's manager saying he's going nowhere (staying at Port) according to Jay Clark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-pulls-out-of-harley-bennell-trade-race/story-fnp04d70-1227556382433?sv=accbe2368eaa2702755c390959c218a2
Well that was short lived, only just finished my post and its all over.. :lol
The question is where Lobbe fits in at Port. Can Port play Ryder, Schulz, Westhoff as well as Lobbe in the same side? They couldn't this year.
Lobbe may want to stay at Port; his manager may want him to remain at Port; Port may want to keep him (especially with the WADA hearing hanging over Ryder) BUT if Port and Lobbe are both offered a good deal then that may alter Port's thinking. That's what the SA-based bloke on SEN said.
Yeah I just heard that too. He will stay.
Hands off Lobbe
Port Adelaide has moved to declare contracted ruckman Matthew Lobbe is not a trade prospect this year.
The Power's vice-captain, who took time to find the right balance with ruck recruit Paddy Ryder this season, is contracted for the next three seasons.
The Adelaide Advertiser is reporting Lobbe is determined to stay at Port, which is equally as keen to keep him, despite the hot competition for talls at Alberton.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/trade-winds-aish-set-for-new-deal-with-lions
Apparently, Warren Tredrea over in SA reckons Richmond are willing to trade pick 12 for Lobbe. Hinkley is keen to keep Lobbe but there is pressure from others at Port to trade him.
A reputable SA source has told me that RFC are going to upgrade our round 1 pick to within the top 5 by trading a gun player and then trade that to PA for Lobbe
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Hasnt burger played something like 40 games the past 100 years?
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A reputable SA source has told me that RFC are going to upgrade our round 1 pick to within the top 5 by trading a gun player and then trade that to PA for Lobbe
Depending on who I would do that :clapping
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Hasnt burger played something like 40 games the past 100 years?
Not many young - ish ruck man are fit every game. most take till mid 20s to grow into body
I can't fathom he's free we don't want him
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Hasnt burger played something like 40 games the past 100 years?
Not many young - ish ruck man are fit every game. most take till mid 20s to grow into body
I can't fathom he's free we don't want him
or zac smith. odd
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Leuy 64 games in 5 years
Kreuser 65 in 5 years
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Leuy 64 games in 5 years
Kreuser 65 in 5 years
zac smith 65 games
5 seasons
not many young rucks play every game
why the hell did we not want mummy
why the hell is lburger going drug cheats for free
:banghead
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Melbourne's List Manager Josh Mahoney has confirmed the Demons interest in Collingwood's Ben Kennedy and Giants' Tom Bugg.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/melbourne-chasing-young-pie-and-giant
Jed Lamb will decide between the Bombers and Blues in the coming days as he seeks a trade from the Giants. But his sizeable contract means GWS might need to continue paying some of the last year of his deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-gws-midfielder-jed-lamb-to-choose-between-essendon-and-carlton/story-fnp04d70-1227559396132
Collingwood's Paul Seedsman has had a medical at Adelaide and Hawthorn are showing strong interest in him.
https://twitter.com/afltrade
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Be easier just to post who Melbourne aren't chasing.....
I'd be looking at both of them as well....especially Bugg....and pretty sure Kennedy was a mad Richmond supporter too...
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Brisbane are "really keen" to secure Carlton midfielder Tom Bell, but have ruled out pursuing Hawthorn defender Matt Suckling, Lions list manager Peter Schwab says.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-07/lions-confident-they-can-cut-a-deal-for-bell
Cam Ellis-Yolmen has attracted interest from Sydney, Collingwood and Melbourne. - SEN
Fremantle and Sydney have put contract offers towards premiership player Ryan Schoenmakers. - the age
A three-way trade is looming between Melbourne, Port Adelaide and Collingwood. It's been proposed by the Age that the deal would see Jimmy Toumpas move to the Power, Aaron Young to Collingwood and Ben Kennedy to Melbourne.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Hartlett just re-signed until 2021. They are now taking this pee out of us on SEN for missing out on everyone so far, Treloar, Bennell, Redden...etc...
Laughing stock again..
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:lol
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Quick lets all go hide in the bunker till it's over :shh
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Hasnt burger played something like 40 games the past 100 years?
Not many young - ish ruck man are fit every game. most take till mid 20s to grow into body
I can't fathom he's free we don't want him
Burger aint young, the dude will be 28 next season.
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Hartlett just re-signed until 2021. They are now taking this pee out of us on SEN for missing out on everyone so far, Treloar, Bennell, Redden...etc...
Laughing stock again..
I can't handle it any more :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Rucks are a strange thing but
There are very few good ones
Sandilands old
Nicnat freak
Goldie superjew
Hale ok, more a forward? Apparently retired
Adelaide guy
Who else? Canada and mummy are ok
Maric is winding down but would be almost next best
Hasnt burger played something like 40 games the past 100 years?
Not many young - ish ruck man are fit every game. most take till mid 20s to grow into body
I can't fathom he's free we don't want him
Burger aint young, the dude will be 28 next season.
Same age as ...
...
...
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Hampson
I guess that answers my question
:facepalm :facepalm
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bugg isn't a bad player tough player as well why are these players all wanting to go to other clubs besides us???? There has to be reasons id be happy to hear a rumour tigers are looking at Farren Ray,Ryan Schoenmaker , Courtney Dempsey, Jack Watts :lol :lol :lol just to keep us interested wouldn't touch any of them but... Gee we must be thinking Yarran is going to be the difference for us next year :help :help :help :help :help
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I think that a fit C.Ellis will make a difference together with maybe the inclusion of McBean, improvement in Menadue and Butler. Add Yarran to that and we have more run and creativity. The natural progress of Kamdyn will also help somewhat. I'm also hoping a fit Astbury at FB and Rance At CHB may allow Chaplin to go to the magoos but that may be stretching reality a little bit too much.
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I'm not brimming with confidence about next year.
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Carlton open to trading Levi Casboult to Brisbane to try and get more high draft picks to target GWS players using Silvagni's close connection to them. The only problem is Casboult doesn't want to leave the Blues.
Geelong linked to Gold Coast ruckman Zac Smith. Cat CEO Brian Cook didn't dismiss it. Dangerfield domino needs to fall first before Geelong's other targets come into play (Henderson & Scott Selwood).
Nothing new about us trade-wise. Matt Granland on SEN only mentioned Yarran and said "Who knows what other irons in the fire Richmond may have".
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Nothing new about us trade-wise. Matt Granland on SEN only mentioned Yarran and said "Who knows what other irons in the fire Richmond may have".
Bingo
Let's wait and see what falls out of the sky next week ;D
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Terry Wallace saying on AFL.COM.AU Trade Radio that Matthew Lobbe will be forced out of the team with Dixon and Ryder over the last 12 months.
They are saying that Richmond FC have put an offer for him. Richmond are in need of a ruck and we may give the pick 12 for him
Thoughts?
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Nothing new about us trade-wise. Matt Granland on SEN only mentioned Yarran and said "Who knows what other irons in the fire Richmond may have".
Bingo
Let's wait and see what falls out of the sky next week ;D
It will only be bird poo!!
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Terry Wallace saying on AFL.COM.AU Trade Radio that Matthew Lobbe will be forced out of the team with Dixon and Ryder over the last 12 months.
They are saying that Richmond FC have put an offer for him. Richmond are in need of a ruck and we may give the pick 12 for him
Thoughts?
Sounds expensive
First rounder for a third choice
In a market where Kreuzer and k burger a free.
Richmond are strange folk
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I think that a fit C.Ellis will make a difference together with maybe the inclusion of McBean, improvement in Menadue and Butler. Add Yarran to that and we have more run and creativity. The natural progress of Kamdyn will also help somewhat. I'm also hoping a fit Astbury at FB and Rance At CHB may allow Chaplin to go to the magoos but that may be stretching reality a little bit too much.
This, but, Our ruck stocks are not up to it and our centreline when outdone are really outdone, we need that one more player in there to step up when Cotch, Deledeo, Miles and Martin are down/tagged, we could also do with a backman if Astbury cant get up.
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Terry Wallace saying on AFL.COM.AU Trade Radio that Matthew Lobbe will be forced out of the team with Dixon and Ryder over the last 12 months.
They are saying that Richmond FC have put an offer for him. Richmond are in need of a ruck and we may give the pick 12 for him
Thoughts?
Sounds expensive
First rounder for a third choice
In a market where Kreuzer and k burger a free.
Richmond are strange folk
No, not pick 12, trade Conca to WCE and then on trade that pick, we need to keep pick 12 now in case a Redden, Aish type come along......out of the sky... :snidegrin
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In a market where Kreuzer and k burger a free.
Kreuzer has re-signed - was last week
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Lobbe also isn't injury prone. His issue seems to be he struggles when not the sole ruckman so my only issue would be can he do it at Richmond with some help? We've seen what happens when you go in with only one ruck (Maric).
Otherwise I would
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Lobbe also isn't injury prone. His issue seems to be he struggles when not the sole ruckman so my only issue would be can he do it at Richmond with some help? We've seen what happens when you go in with only one ruck (Maric).
Otherwise I would
Agree with this.
IMV, has upside on Lberg and Krez based on reliability and ruck work.
Not worth pick 12 but surely Power value our soaking up cap space for them to get Charlie.
We might sneak a 2nd rounder for him
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Nothing new about us trade-wise. Matt Granland on SEN only mentioned Yarran and said "Who knows what other irons in the fire Richmond may have".
Bingo
Let's wait and see what falls out of the sky next week ;D
Bit like superman perhaps.
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Rucks are a strange thing but
There are very few good ones
Sandilands old
Nicnat freak
Goldie superjew
Hale ok, more a forward? Apparently retired
Adelaide guy
Who else? Canada and mummy are ok
Maric is winding down but would be almost next best
Best rucks are:
Goldstein
NicNat
Sandi
Jacobs
Honorable mentions to:
Mumford
Martin
Blicavs
Still better/preferable (due to scope of improvement) than Maric:
Longer
McEvoy
Ryder
Tippett
Sinclair
I'd even take Ceglar, but he's staying at Hawks for sure now that Hale is a goner...
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Re: Ruckman, Zac Smith nominated Geelong.
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
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DR saying we are happy to take our picks to the draft.
Interesting set up.
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
When was Dan on 3AW saying this? He hasn't been on there tonight
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Trade talk from SEN before:
Richmond were mentioned as having "swung and missed" on a few players, namely Hartlett (confirmed big 5 year contract offered), but still in the market.
Interestingly enough, the Treloar to Collingwood deal was also mentioned, with Mark Allen mentioning that there were still some snags in the road and that it wasn't as concrete as it was last week.
:shh :shh :shh :shh.
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DR saying we are happy to take our picks to the draft.
Interesting set up.
More like "I had a crack at everyone bar the neighbour and they all played me the fool!" Wearied but failed and I now down the pub with Blair planning our Christmas holidays
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Sydney are ‘in love with’ West Coast back-up ruckman Callum Sinclair and are very keen to recruit him, according to Triple M Footy’s Garry Lyon. The Swans will be asking for Sinclair in return for Lewis Jetta returning back home to WA.
Port Adelaide have confirmed that they are willing to trade Pick 10 to secure Gold Coast's Charlie Dixon in the upcoming trade period.
Port Adelaide are prepared to part ways with midfielders Andrew Moore and Aaron Young if the pair want to pursue other playing opportunities, the Power's general manager of football Chris Davies says. Collingwood has shown interest in Port Adelaide according to 3AW.
But Davies dismissed suggestions that contracted ruckman Matthew Lobbe was not a required player, particularly following the impending arrival of Gold Coast forward Charlie Dixon and fellow tall Paddy Ryder last year. - AFL Website
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Despite sounding somewhat ridiculous, Port Adelaide's Angus Monfries is a chance to go to GWS.
https://twitter.com/afltrade
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In a market where Kreuzer and k burger a free.
Kreuzer has re-signed - was last week
Was available for free if we so wanted him (enough)
Ditto l burger
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
Complete 360 from the war chest big fish movement.
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
Truthfully?
Wow rabble
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So who can we target in FA next year? :snidegrin ;D
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So who can we target in FA next year? :snidegrin ;D
A big fish :shh
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So who can we target in FA next year? :snidegrin ;D
A big fish :shh
With our MAMMOTH war chest... :snidegrin
OMFG it will be overflowing with jewels by then... :thumbsup
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So who can we target in FA next year? :snidegrin ;D
A big fish :shh
With our MAMOTH war chest... :snidegrin
Will probably be paying Lennon 500k and C Ellis will be demanding more for his next contract. I'd say the ship will have sailed by then...
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
Bloody hell and to think Balme was gettable instead of this amateur
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In a market where Kreuzer and k burger a free.
Kreuzer has re-signed - was last week
Was available for free if we so wanted him (enough)
Ditto l burger
No he wasn't
Was never out of contract and never wanted to leave Carlton
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
Bloody hell and to think Balme was gettable instead of this amateur
:banghead
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If we go through this trade season without landing someone heads must roll.
We stated 3 years ago we had a war chest to roll with and we have managed to do sweet FA with it.
questions have to be asked why are we being rejected left right and center when Collinwood, Geelong and Hawthorn seem to be able to woe whoever they like.
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If we go through this trade season without landing someone heads must roll.
We stated 3 years ago we had a war chest to roll with and we have managed to do sweet FA with it.
questions have to be asked why are we being rejected left right and center when Collinwood, Geelong and Hawthorn seem to be able to woe whoever they like.
If we win the flag in '16 should we still execute?
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If we win the flag in '16
:lol :rollin :lol
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If we go through this trade season without landing someone heads must roll.
We stated 3 years ago we had a war chest to roll with and we have managed to do sweet FA with it.
questions have to be asked why are we being rejected left right and center when Collinwood, Geelong and Hawthorn seem to be able to woe whoever they like.
If we win the flag in '16 should we still execute?
Nope, hopefully a new bloke will be running the show by then😉
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If we win the flag in '16
:lol :rollin :lol
I really don't know how many of the posters here do it. Definitely the least optimistic bunch of Richmond supports I've ever met. Well, you guys and my old man.
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If we win the flag in '16
:lol :rollin :lol
I really don't know how many of the posters here do it. Definitely the least optimistic bunch of Richmond supports I've ever met. Well, you guys and my old man.
Ignorance is bliss aye
It must be a happy life to e delusional
I guess. Having never enjoyed watching any of Richmond premierships unlike most here, its difficult to say. If it wasn't for people like me, you blokes wouldn't have a club to barrack for.
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To each his sufferings: all are men,
Condemn'd alike to groan—
The tender for another's pain,
Th' unfeeling for his own.
Yet, ah! why should they know their fate,
Since sorrow never comes too late,
And happiness too swiftly flies?
Thought would destroy their Paradise.
No more;—where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wise.
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
I'll save my judgement till the end of trade week but to be totally honest it's not sounding great.
We have been a really safe club for a long time whether it be with not sacking coaches to drafting safe to not trading to not upset the playing list, and IMO it's time to be brave.
You could seriously make 4 or 5 changes through this period if you are willing to take a risk. We have a list that is a middle of the table list but we seem to scared to really put ourselves out there. Would the club really suffer if we lost guys like Astbury, Conca, Ellis, Batchelor, Houli and Griffiths? 3 of these guys spend more time in rehab than they do on the track. Batchelor is a battler, Houli is to soft and Ellis just knocks up getting meaningless kicks around halfback. All tradable and have significant flaws in their games. Move them on if we can improve our best 22.
Do we have good enough "sales people" in positions to sell our club better than others sell theirs? Are we offering enough to truely make it impossible for guys to say no? There is nothing surer that Geelong are going to be paying Dangerfield more than Selwood. That's just what it takes to get these types of people into your club. We need to stop thinking about how our players will take it and just get it done. Players all talk about playing for one reason, premierships, but then potentially get upset if another better player gets paid more than they do. I'd rather take some risks and have a serious crack at getting some more A graders into our club knowing that potentially we may lose one of our own along the way. The Hawks lost buddy because they got other guys in and couldn't pay him what others could but it's worked out ok for them.
It's got me buggered why we aren't going hard at Carlisle! Give them pick 12 and pay him $750k.
Give Carlton Ellis for Yarran, let him kick sideways for them.
Swap Conca for Lycett, he is not even getting a game.
Astbury to Brisbane for a pick
There is 4 changes that would improve us straight away that are more than reasonable for both parties.... .
Be brave and have a go Tigers!!!!
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:gotigers
If we win the flag in '16
:lol :rollin :lol
I really don't know how many of the posters here do it. Definitely the least optimistic bunch of Richmond supports I've ever met. Well, you guys and my old man.
Ignorance is bliss aye
It must be a happy life to e delusional
I guess. Having never enjoyed watching any of Richmond premierships unlike most here, its difficult to say. If it wasn't for people like me, you blokes wouldn't have a club to barrack for.
:dancingpickle
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Good post BT.
Agreed.
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So we're bagging the club now because someone copied from BF a made-up post about Dan Richardson being on 3aw tonight when he wasn't :doh.
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If we go through this trade season without landing someone heads must roll.
We stated 3 years ago we had a war chest to roll with and we have managed to do sweet FA with it.
questions have to be asked why are we being rejected left right and center when Collinwood, Geelong and Hawthorn seem to be able to woe whoever they like.
We're too conservative with our offers, everyone knows you need to pay overs to get talent in, we offer market value, so they opt for better offers. Think greenwood, treloar.
I'm spewin that bunny gale said the club feels the key position stocks are solid what we need are goal kicking midfielders. Carlisle would be a massive coupe, Zac smith is just what we need, instead we are hellbent on yarran
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So we're bagging the club now because someone copied from BF a made-up post about Dan Richardson being on 3aw tonight when he wasn't :doh.
Mentioning other forums in this forum is forbidden without the quote :banghead
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Wasn't a made up post ....he did say it.....last year....and after we stuff up trade week again he'll be saying it this year...
(http://r31.imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/938804.gif)
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How the stuff are Geelong landing everyone? Henderson, smith, Dangerfield, Selwood? Eff me
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Smarter list managers plus a shyteload of high-profile retirements all at once, I'd say...
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So we're bagging the club now because someone copied from BF a made-up post about Dan Richardson being on 3aw tonight when he wasn't :doh.
Mentioning other forums in this forum is forbidden without the quote :banghead
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bh-project-2015-vi-trade-and-free-agency-discussion.1113678/page-153#post-41371622
Wasn't a made up post ....he did say it.....last year....and after we stuff up trade week again he'll be saying it this year...
(http://r31.imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/938804.gif)
Yep, the quote was from last year; not from 3aw earlier tonight as some clearly fell for without checking the 3aw website. Clubs aren't going to rely on picks in this weaker draft unless they have picks in the top 5.
Anyway, I'll wait for the trade period to actually start (and finish) before making a judgement on Blair (not a fan by the way) and co's dealings this offseason. Most of the trade speculation at this time of the year either doesn't come to fruition or is just made-up. The media crave it though as it brings out the complete range of emotions of footy fans.
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Hmmmmm
@AFLTrade: Collingwood and GWS trade talks for Treloar have stalled.. Carlton now offering a contract with more money and security of years. #AFL
Love this time of year :rollin
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:facepalm
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KB saying on SEN he's hearing whispers were into Tom Liberatore.
Make of that what you will.....
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And Carlisile has officially named the Saints as his preferred club
Source: all over Twitter, HUN, Age and AFL websites
Wonder why he did that :huh3 oh yeah at least 850k reasons I suppose
bomber fans wanting Daints first round picks in this year's and next year's draft for him :lol (that's on Twitter too)
:rollin
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Hmmmmm
@AFLTrade: Collingwood and GWS trade talks for Treloar have stalled.. Carlton now offering a contract with more money and security of years. #AFL
Love this time of year :rollin
Time to get on the phone Dan & Dimma (not Blair, keep Blair away from said phone) for a chat to the young lad
GWS are likely to accept our trade offer, so time to get on the bike and give this another red hot go
It ain't over til it's over and seeing Trade week hasn't actually started it ain't nowhere near over
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Jon Ralph said he still expects Treloar to end up at Collingwood. Both the Pies and GWS have a good relationship via Gubby Allen.
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KB saying on SEN he's hearing whispers were into Tom Liberatore.
Make of that what you will.....
:lol :lol :lol :lol libba yeah that be right chase a bloke coming of a knee reco bit like trengrove last year
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The latest Treloar rumour came from none other than Blues man Andy Maher :wallywink. He also claimed Richmond is out of the race but Carlton are still in for Treloar.
GWS and Collingwood are reportedly at an impasse over a trade that would see mid-fielder Adam Treloar move to the Magpies, which has opened the door for Carlton to grab the young gun.
The Pies have offered the Giants this year's first round pick and next year's second round pick in return for the 22-year-old, but GWS is holding out for a better deal.
"I'm being told that Carlton has seized on this, and has offered Treloar more money and committed to taking him with their first pick in the pre-season draft," Andy Maher has told SEN.
"My understanding is Treloar said I'm not un-happy with that, if the Collingwood deal can't be done, the money's fine .. I barracked for Carlton as a kid and it would be something as a dream come true."
Maher still thinks the young mid-fielder will end up at the Magpies, but says if the deal can't be done Carlton is now next in line and Richmond is no longer an option.
"Richmond is apparently off the table, but Carlton has made a significant move on Adam Treloar and I'm told his people are more than open for him to play footy with the Blues next year."
http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/carlton-an-option-for-treloar#4qKicdXo314T8Vjb.99
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St.Kilda are likely to initially offer Essendon, Tom Hickey and Pick 24 for Jake Carlisle. They are more likely to part with Pick 5 though.
- Brett Thomas, SEN.
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The manager of Carlton big man Levi Casboult has confirmed rival clubs have made enquiries about whether his client would be open to a move. The 25-year-old is contracted for another year and reluctant to leave the Blues but the club is believed to be open for a trade for the right deal.
"If Carlton's prepared to release Levi, that then opens the door for the player to say, well if you're prepared to let me go, clearly I'm not part of the future and maybe I should look at what that opportunity may represent," player agent Anthony McConville told SEN.
- SEN
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Brisbane Lions midfielder James Aish is expected to decide his future by Friday, with the Herald Sun reporting that the midfielder has his heart set on joining Collingwood.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Hmmmmm
@AFLTrade: Collingwood and GWS trade talks for Treloar have stalled.. Carlton now offering a contract with more money and security of years. #AFL
Love this time of year :rollin
The mentioned on SEN leading into 1 oclock that the Richmond deal didnt exist anymore.
Regardless, we'd have to offer big overs at this point, probably 750k. Maybe we have something else in the works? Didnt DR or BH call him personally?
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KB saying on SEN he's hearing whispers were into Tom Liberatore.
Make of that what you will.....
Heard this a while ago. Boys a gun clearance machine. Recruit of the year.
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I would be all over Libba like a rash figuratively speaking.
Bloke is a gun footballer. Don't care that he's done a knee. He will come good.
In fact I think the prospect of him returning to the WB's midfield is quite scary...
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I would be all over Libba like a rash figuratively speaking.
Bloke is a gun footballer. Don't care that he's done a knee. He will come good.
In fact I think the prospect of him returning to the WB's midfield is quite scary...
Agreed
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Ellis for Yarran :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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What is his (Liberatore's) contractual status?
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What is his (Liberatore's) contractual status?
He re-signed earlier this year until 2018.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/western-bulldogs/liberatore-resigns-with-afls-bulldogs-20150513-gh14zu.html
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What is his (Liberatore's) contractual status?
He re-signed earlier this year until 2018.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/western-bulldogs/liberatore-resigns-with-afls-bulldogs-20150513-gh14zu.html
Thanks OE! :thumbsup
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Aish wants to go to the Pies according to the Hun....
http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-james-aish-requests-trade-to-collingwood-but-lions-playing-hardball/story-fndv8g1a-1227562230246
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Going to be quite a few new faces on The Footy Show next year by the looks of things...
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/12/25/1225976/163237-pn-maurice-rioli.jpg)
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/12/25/1225976/163237-pn-maurice-rioli.jpg)
The original and really only Mr Magic. One of my all time favourite players. If only we had someone like him come to our club.
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(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/491122830-cyril-rioli-of-the-hawks-celebrates-the-win-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXkCXWMuiPhy%2BfZZy1gfCr3PKnB%2Fz1883yynIS%2B9UENsmLuBahCzRu9MChLyuqFKlc4hztV199ktKDNYPZJ304Fo%3D)
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/12/25/1225976/163237-pn-maurice-rioli.jpg)
The original and really only Mr Magic. One of my all time favourite players. If only we had someone like him come to our club.
Devastated I never saw him.play more than just about any other tiger great. Im just going to enjoy this bs rumor a little more than one should. :pray
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Who is this flog stating we got a big player but it's all too hush hush?
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Who is this flog stating we got a big player but it's all too hush hush?
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01411/jamesBrown_1411852c.jpg)
It's Reeealllll!
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Who is this flog stating we got a big player but it's all too hush hush?
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01411/jamesBrown_1411852c.jpg)
It's Reeealllll!
When did he do a Lazarus?
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I don't ever recall him playing for the Melbourne Storm or joining the Palmer United Party......
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I don't ever recall him playing for the Melbourne Storm or joining the Palmer United Party......
Well played! :clapping
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Smarter list managers plus a shyteload of high-profile retirements all at once, I'd say...
Never mind the simple fact that players want to go there as well.
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I would be all over Libba like a rash figuratively speaking.
Bloke is a gun footballer. Don't care that he's done a knee. He will come good.
In fact I think the prospect of him returning to the WB's midfield is quite scary...
Agreed
X2
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"We still have a few irons in the fire but we are happy to take our picks to the draft" – Dan Richardson, 3AW
(http://www.wolfgnards.com/media/blogs/photos/celebrities/groundhog-day.jpg)
:gotigers
I'll save my judgement till the end of trade week but to be totally honest it's not sounding great.
We have been a really safe club for a long time whether it be with not sacking coaches to drafting safe to not trading to not upset the playing list, and IMO it's time to be brave.
You could seriously make 4 or 5 changes through this period if you are willing to take a risk. We have a list that is a middle of the table list but we seem to scared to really put ourselves out there. Would the club really suffer if we lost guys like Astbury, Conca, Ellis, Batchelor, Houli and Griffiths? 3 of these guys spend more time in rehab than they do on the track. Batchelor is a battler, Houli is to soft and Ellis just knocks up getting meaningless kicks around halfback. All tradable and have significant flaws in their games. Move them on if we can improve our best 22.
Do we have good enough "sales people" in positions to sell our club better than others sell theirs? Are we offering enough to truely make it impossible for guys to say no? There is nothing surer that Geelong are going to be paying Dangerfield more than Selwood. That's just what it takes to get these types of people into your club. We need to stop thinking about how our players will take it and just get it done. Players all talk about playing for one reason, premierships, but then potentially get upset if another better player gets paid more than they do. I'd rather take some risks and have a serious crack at getting some more A graders into our club knowing that potentially we may lose one of our own along the way. The Hawks lost buddy because they got other guys in and couldn't pay him what others could but it's worked out ok for them.
It's got me buggered why we aren't going hard at Carlisle! Give them pick 12 and pay him $750k.
Give Carlton Ellis for Yarran, let him kick sideways for them.
Swap Conca for Lycett, he is not even getting a game.
Astbury to Brisbane for a pick
There is 4 changes that would improve us straight away that are more than reasonable for both parties.... .
Be brave and have a go Tigers!!!!
Here here well said.Find a way to bring in a bloke like Tomlinson as well and id vote you to the position of list manager.
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Smarter list managers plus a shyteload of high-profile retirements all at once, I'd say...
Never mind the simple fact that players want to go there as well.
Maybe so but the question was about how they're fitting them all in.....
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RIVALS are attempting to prise Adam Treloar away from Collingwood despite the GWS young gun requesting a trade to the Pies last month.
Collingwood’s determination to lure midfield dynamos Treloar and Brisbane’s James Aish — who requested a trade to Collingwood on Thursday — hit separate roadblocks on what should have been a great day for the Pies.
Greater Western Sydney is prepared to trade Treloar to a rival club if it can secure a better deal than the Pies offer.
It is understood Carlton have approached Treloar’s management to ask what it would take to secure a player who grew up following the Blues.
The Magpies remain in the box seat and are prepared to offer this year’s pick No. 7 as well as a second-round pick from next year’s draft.
But a GWS spokesman told the Herald Sun on Thursday: “We will deal with whoever can offer us the best possible deal”.
GWS boss David Matthews and the list management team will not close off any possibilities until a deal is done.
It will give other clubs a chance to swoop if they can pull together a blockbuster deal that trumps Collingwood’s offer of picks.
Carlton’s deal is believed to be more financially lucrative than the Collingwood offer.
Treloar is keen to get to the Pies but is aware there are no promises.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-trying-to-snare-adam-treloar-despite-his-desire-to-join-collingwood/story-fnj3twbb-1227562534010
Brett Anderson on twitter though is saying it's nonsense and Treloar will get to the Pies.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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@nickjanssen25 - Tigers still looking for a 🐠? <----- that's a big fish.
@BrettAndersonIF - Yes. Not many taking bait though.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Best and worst case trade scenarios
Herald-Sun
October 8, 2015
RICHMOND
Best case: Pinch Adam Treloar from GWS — gosh the Pies would hate that! Only give Carlton a second-round pick for Chris Yarran. Snare a second-round pick from Brisbane for David Astbury.
Worst case: Have to give up a first-round pick for Yarran, or miss him altogether.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-clubs-best-and-worst-case-exchange-period-scenarios/story-fnp04d70-1227561798314?sv=1253b190620bf1f9fe3c3980c5e62ec2
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
Why must people tease us so....
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Hawthorn may lose their fourth premiership player to free agency with Matthew Suckling set to join the Western Bulldogs.
Suckling, 27, is an unrestricted free agent, and the Dogs could today officially lodge paperwork that will enable him to join them as he can automatically move to his club of choice without the Hawks having an opportunity to match an offer.
In one of the first trade deals expected on Monday, when the annual player-exchange period starts, Greater Western Sydney defender Curtly Hampton will cross to Adelaide in return for the Crows’ second-round selection in 2016, under the new rules for future draft picks.
The Giants are also well down the track in their pursuit of Geelong free agent Dawson Simpson as a back-up ruckman.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-set-to-snare-matthew-suckling/story-fnca0u4y-1227562594414
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Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Staff writers
Herald Sun
October 08, 2015 9:14PM
RICHMOND
IN PLAY: Ben Lennon probably will stay but he and the Tigers are haggling over money.
Back-up defender David Astbury is in demand from the Lions but at this stage the Tigers are holding onto him.
THE TARGETS: Carlton’s Chris Yarran is the big one. He might be a bad boy but Richmond believes he couldn’t fit its needs any better. He kicked 21 goals as a rebounding defender last year before downing tools at Blues this year. The Tigers have overlooked Harley Bennell and have given up on Adam Treloar. They want inside midfielders but haven’t been able to drag one loose from a rival.
NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS: 12, 31, 49, 67, 85
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnj3twbb-1227519452756
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
Why must people tease us so....
I'm such a pathetic loser/tragic that I stalked the crap outta this bloke on Facey.
Confirmed genuine Richmond supporter (pictures at events, groups followed/liked, tattoos - the actual tattoo, not just the fact that he has tattoos..... etc).
Is also from Wantirna.
A mad keen richmond man wouldn't sell his soul lying to the faithful in some desperate bid for 5 minutes of (social media) fame would he? :whistle :whistle :whistle
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People keep mentioning JOM, but surely he'd have to pass medicals and be doubtful.
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
Why must people tease us so....
I'm such a pathetic loser/tragic that I stalked the crap outta this bloke on Facey.
Confirmed genuine Richmond supporter (pictures at events, groups followed/liked, tattoos - the actual tattoo, not just the fact that he has tattoos..... etc).
Is also from Wantirna.
A mad keen richmond man wouldn't sell his soul lying to the faithful in some desperate bid for 5 minutes of (social media) fame would he? :whistle :whistle :whistle
Ah a fellow local. Might have to remember to put duct tape and rope in the boot this morning :whistle
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
Why must people tease us so....
I'm such a pathetic loser/tragic that I stalked the crap outta this bloke on Facey.
Confirmed genuine Richmond supporter (pictures at events, groups followed/liked, tattoos - the actual tattoo, not just the fact that he has tattoos..... etc).
Is also from Wantirna.
A mad keen richmond man wouldn't sell his soul lying to the faithful in some desperate bid for 5 minutes of (social media) fame would he? :whistle :whistle :whistle
Doubt it
I got. Good feeling
Welcome Rioli
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Well the Godfather of Soul seems to know something....
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181299_ecd2184006d42ca94980cff5c0091d91.jpg)
...though I thought he was dead?
Why must people tease us so....
I'm such a pathetic loser/tragic that I stalked the crap outta this bloke on Facey.
Confirmed genuine Richmond supporter (pictures at events, groups followed/liked, tattoos - the actual tattoo, not just the fact that he has tattoos..... etc).
Is also from Wantirna.
A mad keen richmond man wouldn't sell his soul lying to the faithful in some desperate bid for 5 minutes of (social media) fame would he? :whistle :whistle :whistle
unless old mate from wantirna got sucked in by someone else seeking 5 minutes of social media fame?
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Can we put Rioli to Richmond in the confirmed trades/FA thread then please?! ;D
For the record hes contracted till end of '18.
http://m.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/hawk-cyril-rioli-signs-fouryear-deal/story-fnk2to87-1226850792611
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Can we put Rioli to Richmond in the confirmed trades/FA thread then please?! ;D
For the record hes contracted till end of '18.
http://m.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/hawk-cyril-rioli-signs-fouryear-deal/story-fnk2to87-1226850792611
No Douglas, we can't. As chucky will attest, we didn't get the deal done in time. Trade week is over and we got no one.
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Did we get the wce lad, before the window closed?
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Did we get the wce lad, before the window closed?
:banghead no. We didn't even get Yarran, hawks beat us to him because we refused to pay overs which could in fact now be the market price.
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I heard a rumour that Blair got addicted to candycrush during last years trade period, hence our current predicament.
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He's been on level 216
For almost two years
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Can we put Rioli to Richmond in the confirmed trades/FA thread then please?! ;D
For the record hes contracted till end of '18.
http://m.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/hawk-cyril-rioli-signs-fouryear-deal/story-fnk2to87-1226850792611
No Douglas, we can't. As chucky will attest, we didn't get the deal done in time. Trade week is over and we got no one.
And I'm furious about it :banghead :banghead :banghead
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are you pouting and stomping your feet?
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are you pouting and stomping your feet?
YES AND BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST A BRICK WALL TOO :banghead :banghead :banghead
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try holding your breath until you turn blue.
taking it to that next level nearly always gets the result
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are you pouting and stomping your feet?
Are u eating fairy floss and bubblegum?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
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I'm writing an angry email to the club - they obviously don't know how facilitate trades , it should be as simple as offering Morris plus a third rounder for Nick Nat
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I'm writing an angry email to the club - they obviously don't know how facilitate trades , it should be as simple as offering Morris plus a third rounder for Nick Nat
Don't bother. Stalin has already done that. And any other combination that offers up Chaplin and Grigg for draft picks or players. :snidegrin
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I'm writing an angry email to the club - they obviously don't know how facilitate trades , it should be as simple as offering Morris plus a third rounder for Nick Nat
MAKE SURE YOU WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS, IT HELPS SHOW YOUR ANGER. AND PUT IN HEAPS OF !!!!!!!'S AND ???????'S
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Can we put Rioli to Richmond in the confirmed trades/FA thread then please?! ;D
For the record hes contracted till end of '18.
http://m.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/hawk-cyril-rioli-signs-fouryear-deal/story-fnk2to87-1226850792611
No Douglas, we can't. As chucky will attest, we didn't get the deal done in time. Trade week is over and we got no one.
And I'm furious about it :banghead :banghead :banghead
And every time a trade is announced by another club or the media put in these :facepalm
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Colin Young, manager of Cam McCarthy says the Dockers will give their first round picks this year AND next year to get Cam McCarthy to Fremantle. "Cam spent time with family at the end of the season in WA and that was the final confirmation he wanted to be traded home," Young Said. - 1116 SEN
Colin Young also expects Freo might trade out players to get more picks in that would satisfy the Bennell trade - SEN
Brisbane's Matthew Leuenberger is set to make his decision over his playing future over the weekend, Essendon was believed to be leading the race but Sydney are expected to offer big money to the big man. - Tom Browne, Channel 7
Tom Bugg is set to find his way to the Dees according to his manager, Tom Petroro. - AFL Trade Radio
Craig Bird is open to a trade out of the Swans this trade period, according to his manager Tom Petroro. - AFL Trade Radio
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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GOLD Coast is making a strong play for North Melbourne support ruckman Daniel Currie.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/suns-heat-up-their-pursuit-of-kangaroos-ruckman
Jaegar O'Meara's manager said earlier this month there was "no chance" he would be leaving the Suns.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-live-latest-news-and-join-the-debate-as-free-agency-opens/story-fnj3twbb-1227562902578
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Q. Hey Chris, hearing talk Richmond has someone big on the radar apart from yaran. Have you heard anything?
@chrisv195 - they had a crack at hannebury but unsuccessful.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-live-latest-news-and-join-the-debate-as-free-agency-opens/story-fnj3twbb-1227562902578
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Barrett's latest sliding doors column ...
Richmond
IF .... the Tigers have cast the net over everyone and only bring Yarran to shore ...
THEN ... it's more than an OK catch. But underwhelming at the same time, given the wonderment in their eyes when they threw the net.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/sliding-doors-trade-special
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Q. Hey Chris, hearing talk Richmond has someone big on the radar apart from yaran. Have you heard anything?
@chrisv195 - they had a crack at hannebury but unsuccessful.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-live-latest-news-and-join-the-debate-as-free-agency-opens/story-fnj3twbb-1227562902578
Didn't we lose out on that one about 6 months ago?
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Peter Blucher - the manager of Treloar, Zac Smith, Whitecross.
At the start of the year, Treloar's preference was to actually stay at GWS. We went through an exhaustive process, and his preferred destination is Collingwood. We're confident we can get Adam to the Pies next year. The facts are he's out of contract and he wants to go to Collingwood. We take in good faith that the Pies will get the deal done. Collingwood is where he (Adam Treloar) wants to go. Maybe GWS worked out that he would have left anyway (after another two years) and cut their losses.
Blucher on the potential move of Treloar to the Blues: That would be unfair because it would mean the Giants get nothing.
Blucher on Zac Smith: This deal is a bit trickier - Geelong is one of the clubs that might be involved. Playing senior football will be the primary determining factor in where he goes.
Blucher on Whitecross: I think he needs to move on and get a fresh start, perhaps he needs to look around. I think he'd be an outstanding pickup for a new club if he was to decide he wanted to leave.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Patrick Dangerfield's manager Paul Connors has confirmed that the Adelaide are willing to trade Patrick Dangerfield for either 1st and 2nd Round Picks or a 1st Round Pick and a player.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-live-latest-news-and-join-the-debate-as-free-agency-opens/story-fnp04d70-1227562902578
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Barrett's latest sliding doors column ...
Richmond
IF .... the Tigers have cast the net over everyone and only bring Yarran to shore ...
THEN ... it's more than an OK catch. But underwhelming at the same time, given the wonderment in their eyes when they threw the net.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/sliding-doors-trade-special
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Scott Selwood has formally confirmed he wants to join his brother at Geelong next year via free agency. Geelong have officially made an offer to Scott Selwood, West Coast have 3 days to match the offer. If the Eagles do not match the offer, they will be in line for free agency compensation.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/eagle-scott-selwood-requests-free-agency-move-to-cats
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Q. Yarran to Richmond a certainty? Also who else do you think the tigers are a realistic chance of getting?
@gilbertgardiner - a lot of talk about the Tigers.. Yarran looking strong... another name who bobbed Jacob Townsend (don't know much about him) and Dom Tyson. Tigers really want another inside midfielder
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-live-latest-news-and-join-the-debate-as-free-agency-opens/story-fnj3twbb-1227562902578
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So we are really focusing on the second tier players. Similar to us picking up Houli, Grigg, Chaplin, Hampson and Morris.. :whistle
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So we are really focusing on the second tier players. Similar to us picking up Houli, Grigg, Chaplin, Hampson and Morris.. :whistle
Seriously trade week starts next week
The fact that the media can only point to Yarran fills me with confidence that they're working hard behind the scenes
Your losing your poo for nothing.
Be patient and lose it next week if we land nothing :thumbsup
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So we are really focusing on the second tier players. Similar to us picking up Houli, Grigg, Chaplin, Hampson and Morris.. :whistle
Seriously trade week starts next week
The fact that the media can only point to Yarran fills me with confidence that they're working hard behind the scenes
Your losing your poo for nothing.
Be patient and lose it next week if we land nothing :thumbsup
Every year since N Brown I have heard the same....... "wait for trade week"...... "working behind the scenes"..........."iron in the fire"........."big fish".........the only thing we ever end up with is an iron in the arse.
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But Chucky told us trade week had finished! What the....... :wallywink
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So we are really focusing on the second tier players. Similar to us picking up Houli, Grigg, Chaplin, Hampson and Morris.. :whistle
Seriously trade week starts next week
The fact that the media can only point to Yarran fills me with confidence that they're working hard behind the scenes
Your losing your poo for nothing.
Be patient and lose it next week if we land nothing :thumbsup
Every year since N Brown I have heard the same....... "wait for trade week"...... "working behind the scenes"..........."iron in the fire"........."big fish".........the only thing we ever end up with is an iron in the arse.
:lol
Well lets conserve our energy for end of next week :shh
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What do people think of:
We start with picks 12, 30, 48 (and lower junk)
TRADE
Conca to WCE for Scott Lycett
Astbury to BRIS for 3rd round pick (38)
Griffiths to BRIS for 2nd round pick (20) shallow draft who knows...
Pick 12 to Carlton for Lachie Henderson (presuming Geelong can't trade Henderson in AS WELL AS Dangerfield + Smith)
Pick 20 to Carlton for Chris Yarran (pick 30 too little, pick 12 too much, pick 20 fine surely)
Pick 30 to GWS for Adam Tomlinson (I rate this kid)
Pick 38 ? use in draft or help get a trade done
Pick 48 to GWS for Jacob Townsend (worth a punt and will come cheap)
Out:
Astbury - KPD
Griffiths - KPF/ruck
Conca - mid
Pick 12 - should be a winner
Pick 30 - unlikely due to shallow draft
Pick 48 - very unlikely due to shallow draft
In:
Yarran - utility, good player
Henderson - KPD, good player
Tomlinson - KPP, kid looks good either end
Townsend - InMid, big body and cheap
Lycett - promising ruck/forward, can't get a game at a premiership contender
I suppose for me the blokes like Astbury, Griffiths and Conca have little value. They've all been on the list for 5-6 years and have given us each about a handful of good games tops. Even for tall players I think six years is long enough for Griffiths and Astbury to show us what they've got. Don't see much point in keeping them around and we should trade them if they have any value.
Could then have a back line like:
Tomlinson - Rance - Henderson
Yarran - Grimes - Houli
Free up Vlastuin to move into the midfield, which would also have Townsend at 186/89. Some proper toughness for a change...
Forward line like:
Lloyd - Deledio - Lennon
Vickery - Riewoldt - Lycett
Use Maric as first ruck another year, then use Lycett (who plays forward some) as first ruck the year after and bring in McBean to replace him in the F50.
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Hawk Jed Anderson has officially asked the Hawks for a trade, seeking greater opportunity. West Coast is keen on Anderson, 21, who is originally from Katherine in the Northern Territory, while Essendon and Carlton are also believed to be among several more interested. Anderson has already spoken to clubs, however remains contracted until the end of 2016. - The Age
Gold Coast will ask for Fremantle's first-round pick in exchange for troubled star Harley Bennell when the NAB Trade Period opens on Monday. Bennell had previously been expected to make his way to Freo for a second round selection, given the Dockers were his only suitor. However, it has been suggested Essendon has shown interest and the Suns will now drive a harder bargain, according to the Courier Mail. Fremantle's first-round pick is No.16, which had been earmarked for Greater Western Sydney forward Cam McCarthy.
Ruckman Daniel Currie has taken the offer from the Gold Coast and will be leaving North Melbourne - Fox Footy.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-10/trade-winds-promising-hawk-may-head-west
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Correct me if im wrong, but knights, newman, pettifer retired, are there any more? So that means we need 3 new players, i cant believe we dont have some irons in the fire
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Correct me if im wrong, but knights, newman, pettifer retired, are there any more? So that means we need 3 new players, i cant believe we dont have some irons in the fire
It was Petted BTW
But currently we have five draft picks
Off our list so far are
Newman, Knoghts, Petterd, McDonough, Arnott.
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Thanks wp, pettifer was some time ago, so with 5 to replace it will be very exciting
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Thanks wp, pettifer was some time ago, so with 5 to replace it will be very exciting
No doubt we will use one of those picks to promote Lambert to the senior list permanently
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Suckling to Footscray....
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-set-to-snare-matthew-suckling/story-fnca0u4y-1227562594414?sv=33b913fe3d672df32288a9ecb1eeb538&nk=7ad77095e6eb747e103cd318e55b71fb-1444465885&memtype=anonymous
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Good team th doggies
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According to Tom Browne on Ch 7 ...
GWS are the latest club to show interest in Former Cat Steve Johnson.
North Melbourne have joined the race for Melbourne's Jeremy Howe.
Hawthorn's Jed Anderson has at least 6 clubs chasing him in the upcoming trade period. Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Essendon, North Melbourne and West Coast have all shown interest.
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7
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Geelong is to give Carlton their 2016 first round pick in exchange for Lachie Henderson.
This will allow the Cats to use their first rounder (pick 9) as part of the Dangerfield trade. The Crows are likely to ask for a second-round selection or a player in addition to No. 9 for Dangerfield, while Zac Smith is likely to cost the Cats a second-round draft pick.
The Blues are also keen to acquire a first-round pick for speedster Chris Yarran, who wants to be traded to Richmond.
Adelaide is poised to swap its 2016 second-round selection for Greater Western Sydney’s Curtly Hampton.
The Giants are more interested in acquiring picks for next year than this year as they prepare to bring in a batch of academy youngsters.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-set-to-receive-a-pick-in-2016-draft-for-lachie-henderson/story-fnj3twbb-1227564567506
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(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181985_7c51ea5ef0c7d1d78e64f8bbc56f4b49.png)
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/free-agency
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Correct me if im wrong, but knights, newman, pettifer retired, are there any more? So that means we need 3 new players, i cant believe we dont have some irons in the fire
It was Petted BTW
But currently we have five draft picks
Off our list so far are
Newman, Knoghts, Petterd, McDonough, Arnott.
Just a minor correction. Arnot was on our rookie list this year. The fifth player gone from our senior list is Foley.
We started the year with 39 senior-listed players (Newy was a veteran). Currently, we have 34. So we have a minimum of 4 draft picks.
As WP said, one spot open on our senior list will go to Lambert when he is officially promoted.
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Is grigg that superstar of ours recieved a contract extension yet?
Must of missed that memo
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Is grigg that superstar of ours recieved a contract extension yet?
Must of missed that memo
Not re-signed according to my records
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Pretty sure the Pies and Cats are vying for his services
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Anyone else here think we should be into Jed Anderson?
Would certainly fill our small forward need.
Fast, good skills and very smart around goals.
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i would of thought so
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Career average of 5 kicks a game ::) , at this point light years behind Thomo :shh
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...yet if we got him you'd start crapping on about how he was another astute pick up by Blair the master list manager....like woah... :shh
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...yet if we got him you'd start crapping on about how he was another astute pick up by Blair the master list manager....like woah... :shh
LOL
Gold
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SEN's Brett Anderson is reporting that there have been plenty of murmurings about Fremantle's Lachie Weller wanting a move to Victoria.
Fremantle and his manager adamant there is nothing in it.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
hearing we're in to Lachie Weller big time
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion.1114612/page-64#post-41447620
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From The Richmond Supporters Group Facebook page:
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/182355_1e84fad0c3a71639d8d6e9f7701bd4b6.JPG)
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should consider a trade somewhere, perhaps packaged up for treloar. Didnt even finish top 10 in our b & f so the club may not value his input as much as others do
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would only trade titch as part of a deal for a superstar
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:facepalm
9 years to get this bloke right and now he wants to leave...... :lol. After two decent years... :lol
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From The Richmond Supporters Group Facebook page:
Hahahaha. Calling those guys accurate would be like saying that Stalin has man love for Grigg and Chapiln! ;D
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should consider a trade somewhere, perhaps packaged up for treloar. Didnt even finish top 10 in our b & f so the club may not value his input as much as others do
not valued or injury?
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Edwards does not want to leave the place he loves :shh Nothing to see here :whistle
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From The Richmond Supporters Group Facebook page:
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/182355_1e84fad0c3a71639d8d6e9f7701bd4b6.JPG)
Forget trading Titch. But Mitchell Grigg is seriously good IMO. Think Nick Dal Santo with more pace.
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Well how excited are we all, it starts tomorrow. Cant wait to see the big fish going to all others clubs but ours... :snidegrin
Lets track the moves here...
BTW, where has the original thread gone??
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Can we merge this thread with the other one we have for trade period?
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Can we merge this thread with the other one we have for trade period?
Its gone, that's why I stared this one, wake up.
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight.
Howe is now being chased by Collingwood, North Melbourne (to offer a contract this week) and the Gold Coast (has a contract on the table). Essendon and Fremantle also showed initial interest.
Leuenberger will announce that Essendon is his preferred club to go to. The Bombers and his manager are already in discussion.
Dangerfield trade between Geelong and Adelaide has been agreed upon.
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/with_replies
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Well where has this thread been... :snidegrin
Well how excited are we all, it starts tomorrow. Cant wait to see the big fish going to all others clubs but ours... :snidegrin
Lets track the moves here...
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how many big fish moves do you predict?
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how many big fish moves do you predict?
lots to everywhere else... :thumbsup
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Who is your club chasing and who might leave?
Herald-Sun
October 11, 2015 7:30 pm
RICHMOND
GONE: Matt Arnot, Matt McDonough (delisted); Nathan Foley, Chris Newman, Chris Knights, Ricky Petterd (retired).
IN PLAY:Ben Lennon probably will stay but he and the Tigers are haggling over money.
Back-up defender David Astbury is in demand from the Lions but at this stage the Tigers are holding onto him.
THE TARGETS: Carlton’s Chris Yarran is the big one. He might be a bad boy but Richmond believes he couldn’t fit its needs any better. He kicked 21 goals as a rebounding defender last year before downing tools at Blues this year. The Tigers have overlooked Harley Bennell and have given up on Adam Treloar. They want inside midfielders but getting one has been a challenge. GWS hard nut Jacob Townsend is a good chance to move to Punt Rd.
NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS: 12, 31, 49, 67, 85
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-who-is-your-club-chasing-and-who-might-leave/story-fnp04d70-1227519452756
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how many big fish moves do you predict?
lots to everywhere else... :thumbsup
by lots you mean 2 or 3?
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how many big fish moves do you predict?
lots to everywhere else... :thumbsup
by lots you mean 2 or 3?
Well lets see at the end of it all eh.
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not prepared to define "lots" in advance?
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not prepared to define "lots" in advance?
Well go through the list of players supposedly moving clubs, as a minimum I would say 10-15 players movements by the end of this period.
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10-15 "big fish"?
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not prepared to define "lots" in advance?
Well go through the list of players supposedly moving clubs, as a minimum I would say 10-15 players movements by the end of this period.
Big Fish or players in total?
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not prepared to define "lots" in advance?
Well go through the list of players supposedly moving clubs, as a minimum I would say 10-15 players movements by the end of this period.
10-15?
I recon you'll findit will be closer to 30 by the end of it😉
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30 big fish?
stuff me
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30 big fish?
stuff me
Sorry my bad, I thought we were talking about trades all up.
As for big fish, if you count free agents I can count 4😉
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not prepared to define "lots" in advance?
Well go through the list of players supposedly moving clubs, as a minimum I would say 10-15 players movements by the end of this period.
10-15?
I recon you'll findit will be closer to 30 by the end of it😉
It will be more than 10 to 15 but the original question was about how many big fish would be traded.
Then the debate about what qualifies as a big fish should be had.
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Dangerfield, trelor.
? and ?
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Dangerfield, trelor.
? and ?
Yarran? Bennell?
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Carlisle and Henderson.
There not Massive fish but there more than handy.
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Well, if we get Yarran, one of perhaps only 6 big fish to move clubs then we have done well?
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yarran and bennell i wouldnt call big fish.
carlile and henderson arguably are.
it is of course a subjective term.
Both are pretty good players, but i wouldnt put them in the same class as danger or treloar.
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Oh yes, I know we are referring to big fish but how you look at big fish compared to everyone else will of course be different.
Dangerfield
Treloar
Hernderson
Bennell
Tomlinson
Hampton
McCarthy
Leuenberger
Bell
Sellwood
Suckling
Sinclair
Howe
Dixon
Seedsman
Anderson
So those are a few, bar about two, the rest would be in our best 22. So it depends how you look at a big fish, all I know is we will miss out on all of them.. :snidegrin
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yarran and bennell i wouldnt call big fish.
carlile and henderson arguably are.
it is of course a subjective term.
Both are pretty good players, but i wouldnt put them in the same class as danger or treloar.
No i wouldn't either. But I wouldn't have many on WATs list a big fish either. Potential to be a big fish perhaps but not yet.. But my idea of a big fish may be differ to others.
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Ok then, like I said it depends on how you look at the big fish....so...this lot would get a start at any club!! IMO of course. Anyone of these would be considered a big fish to me if the landed at the RFC.
Dangerfield
Treloar
Hernderson
Bennell
McCarthy
Leuenberger
Suckling
Dixon
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yeah, WATs got a few 20 cm puffer fish in there, for sure.
yeah its a subjective thing but anyone we dont get isnt much of a criteria
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yeah, WATs got a few 20 cm puffer fish in there, for sure.
yeah its a subjective thing but anyone we dont get isnt much of a criteria
So out of that 8 are you kidding me that if we landed one of them they wouldn't be a big fish at our club???
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Your second list?
but still no
to me only dangerfield and treloar
Out of curiosity, who on our list would you regard as a big fish?
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Yarran is an eel not a fish.
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Yarran is an eel not a fish.
He was a big fish a few years ago....
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Your second list?
but still no
to me only dangerfield and treloar
Out of curiosity, who on our list would you regard as a big fish?
Well, I see more on that list. Ours; Martin, Jack, Rance, Deledio and at a stretch Cotchin.
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yeah, thats pretty much agreeable.
so how many in your list do you put in the same class as these?
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"Big Fish" or not... I'd just like a player or two of genuine, proven quality who'll genuinely improve the list, - Redden will, Tomlinson, Henderson or Carlisle will as would have Bennell, Luenberger and even Suckling...not just bargain basement fringe types who'll only be minor upgrades at best and invariably still have deficiencies...
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yeah, thats pretty much agreeable.
so how many in your list do you put in the same class as these?
Bennell, Dangerfield, Treloar, McCarthy, Dixon, Henderson and Sellwood. So we had a crack at one of them, if you look at Aish and Redden as well, if they go then there is a fair bit around.
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yeah, thats pretty much agreeable.
so how many in your list do you put in the same class as these?
So out of my list, how do you compare Conca, Grigg, Bachelor, Hampson, B Ellis and Griff to them? Because I would have any of my list over this lot!!
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bennel could be, dixon may be, not convinced about the others. Hendeson does go close and i would be happy to get him.
"Big Fish" or not... I'd just like a player or two of genuine, proven quality who'll genuinely improve the list, - Redden will, Tomlinson, Henderson or Carlisle will as would have Bennell, Luenberger and even Suckling...not just bargain basement fringe types who'll only be minor upgrades at best and invariably still have deficiencies...
hard to argue against the sentiment, although i reckon the last three fall under the deficiency statement, for various reasons. Our poor ruck stocks do make leuninburger seem more appealing than he actually is, IMO
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Dangerfield
Bennell
Trelor
Dixon
Carilse
Tomlinson
McCarthy
Lbueger
Pretty much any former very high expansion club picks
Ruck man
Assorted key defenders
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Your second list?
but still no
to me only dangerfield and treloar
Out of curiosity, who on our list would you regard as a big fish?
Given , how old and Shyte troy Chappy is
And given how young , and what ability Carlisle has already show in earlier seasons
[with have to include this line for al ; and given Chaplin would in theory be replaced by the said new acquisition, this is how it's related ]
For Richmond - that would be a big fish
Given list presently, with long term success in mind
IMO
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ah ok, not only does trot chaplin make hacks good players, he makes minnows big fish.
he really is an amazing person............
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Is jake needles a "hack" ?
Would
grimes jake needles rance deledio c Ellis vlastuin houli
Be superior to te current model?
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Andrew Moore anyone? :shh
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Is jake needles a "hack" ?
Would
grimes jake needles rance deledio c Ellis vlastuin houli
Be superior to te current model?
Is jake needles a "hack" ?
Would
grimes jake needles rance deledio c Ellis vlastuin houli
Be superior to te current model?
have the doctors ever said the neurons will ever line up again, or will your line of thinking always jump all over the place like a mad womans crap
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Deflect as you wish
Would needles McGee be a far better option along side grimes and rance?
Most sane people would say yes
It might not count as a big fish to you but Richmond would be a much better football side
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lol, but the discussion is about "big fish".
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24 year old
Aa squad
Has dominated in backline
Would sure up ou defence for a decade
Marks like jaws of life
To Richmond football club, whom currently are playing talentless donkey in that role , would it count?
Are we not taking about RFC? Not about drug cheats in a vacuum or market value
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Collingwood is supremely confident it will secure a trade for unwanted Giant Adam Treloar despite his club’s willingness to trade him elsewhere.
The Pies continue to be frustrated by mixed messages from the Giants administration headed by chief executive David Matthews.
Richmond at one stage believed Matthews would broker a trade to get Treloar to Richmond, but even the Tigers have given up all hope.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-confident-of-securing-adam-treloar-despite-gws-mixed-messages/story-fnj3twbb-1227565190119
If Jeremy Howe opts for Gold Coast, potential deal could be Pick 3 to Dees for pick 6 & Howe. North and Pies other suitors.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
CARLTON has signalled its interest in securing James Aish in the pre-season draft if Brisbane holds firm on its dramatic trade ultimatum. A host of rivals believe Brisbane will eventually back down and allow the 2013 national draft’s No. 7 pick to be traded to Collingwood.
http://www.themercury.com.au/carlton-signal-interest-in-taking-james-aish-in-pre-season-draft-if-trade-to-collingwood-breaks-down/story-fnj3twbb-1227565172671
Essendon — which already holds picks four and 23 — is confident of landing Melbourne’s pick 25 for Jake Melksham and is determined to prise No. 5 from the Saints for Jake Carlisle.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-essendon-still-demanding-pick-no-5-for-jake-carlisle-from-st-kilda/story-fnj3twbb-1227565174697
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Potential superstar Adam Treloar wants to go to Collingwood, but Greater Western Sydney have threatened to go to the wider market and pry out the best deal possible. It’s understood there are some within GWS who are uncomfortable trading with the Pies and could yet bring Richmond and possibly even Carlton into the frame.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-week-big-deals-that-everyone-is-watching-20151011-gk6h33.html
Essendon will sign Brisbane Lions' ruckman Matthew Leuenberger as a free agent.
Under the rules, the Lions have the right to match the offer and force a trade, but Brisbane has no intention of doing so and will accept the compensation draft selection for the ruckman, who is likely to earn the Lions an early second-round draft pick; at this stage, that pick would be pick no 22, straight after Brisbane's second-round pick no 21.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-to-sign-lions-ruckman-matthew-leuenberger-as-free-agent-20151011-gk6hze.html
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Latest rumours gaining traction with the nutters at BF:
Where into Kelvin's spudly little brother from Port (one poster suggested a straight swap for Gordon will be the deal) and...wait for it...
...Josh Kennedy from Sydney.....
Yes...I know....pass the salt shaker.....
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Josh Kennedy is a big fish. With or without comparisons to Troy Chaplin.
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Comparison to grigg
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Comparison to grigg
Grigg just shades him.
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Comparison to grigg
Both are fish. One is fresh and the other is rot..... ;)
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peter ryan @AFL_petryan 29m ago
Understand @Adelaide_FC is likely to secure talented SA lad Dean Gore from @GeelongCats as part of Danger deal, boy can play #tradeperiod
So it's be Dean Gore along with picks 9 and 28 for Patrick Dangerfield.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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24 year old
Aa squad
Has dominated in backline
Would sure up ou defence for a decade
Marks like jaws of life
To Richmond football club, whom currently are playing talentless donkey in that role , would it count?
Are we not taking about RFC? Not about drug cheats in a vacuum or market value
as i said your line of discussion is just erratic. We were discussing so called "Big Fish" but as usual you drag the discussion into some psychedelic vortex just so you can bring Chaplin into it.
That is a common theme in nearly every discussion that takes place here.
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So what is a big fish?
Is it a late thing that lives in the water?
Is it someone the newspaper rates as a top 30 player?
Or is it someone that will make Richmond a much better football side
Why don't you ring te saints admin girl. Tell her needles is a "hack"
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Dangerfield deal done.
Adelaide gets picks nine, 28 and Dean Gore.
Cats get Patrick Dangerfield and pick 50.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-12/dangerfield-deal-done-cats-send-crows-gore-and-picks/6846668?section=sport
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Most likely rubbish but there's still rumours floating around about Goddard leaving Essendon. A wag saying North will be interested in him and Stanton :snidegrin.
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He'd take some of the pressure off
Vlastuin grimes
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Yarran is an eel not a fish.
He was a big fish a few years ago....
Lol.
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Melbourne just gave up their second round pick for Jake Melksham.....
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Holy monkeys
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Sellwood and Dangerfield to the cats. Two big fish to one club. We won't beat them again next year as In two moves their midfield becomes one of the best again.
Unreal :help
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You believe that selwood is a better footballer than cotchin?
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So what is Richmond doing on their table. Nothing l guess :snidegrin
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You believe that selwood is a better footballer than cotchin?
You believe that with those two Sellwoods, Danger, Bartel and the like we have a better midfield?
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So what is Richmond doing on their table. Nothing l guess :snidegrin
They think it's a wine and cheese tasting convention.
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You believe that selwood is a better footballer than cotchin?
You believe that with those two Sellwoods, Danger, Bartel and the like we have a better midfield?
I think we have a midfield on par.
I also believe that if you take any clump of 6 or so teams that fill consecutive ladder positions, the difference between the better teams and those below them, is not in their top end talent, but the bottom tier of their best 26-28.
Ok i have answered your question, which was meant to deflect mine.
Do you think selwood is a better player than cotchin?
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Probably.
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You believe that selwood is a better footballer than cotchin?
You believe that with those two Sellwoods, Danger, Bartel and the like we have a better midfield?
I think we have a midfield on par.
I also believe that if you take any clump of 6 or so teams that fill consecutive ladder positions, the difference between the better teams and those below them, is not in their top end talent, but the bottom tier of their best 26-28.
Ok i have your question, which was meant to deflect mine.
Do think selwood is a better player than cotchin?
Which Selwood. No in all cases, but I spose its a decent enough debate J.Selwood and Cotch.
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not joel, the west coke big fish variety .
you know, the one that averaged 14 disposals last season?
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Richmond
Yarran + Carlton's 2nd round pick (No.20)
Carlton
Richmond's 1st round pick (No.12) and 2nd round pick (No.31)
???
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not joel, the west coke big fish variety .
you know, the one that averaged 14 disposals last season?
I would've preferred him over McMahon but not Ward.....
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Richmond
Brisbane's 2nd round pick (No.21)
Brisbane
Astbury
???
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Richmond
Yarran + Carlton's 2nd round pick (No.20)
Carlton
Richmond's 1st round pick (No.12) and 2nd round pick (No.31)
???
no stuffing way
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Richmond
Yarran + Carlton's 2nd round pick (No.20)
Carlton
Richmond's 1st round pick (No.12) and 2nd round pick (No.31)
???
no stuffing way
Rumour ...
Having picks 20 & 21 instead of picks 12 and 31 ??? Not the worst ...
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picks 20+ are arse.
pick 12 should get you a good player
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Draft is weak but it's not that weak...should still be able to snag a couple of decent kids at 20 & 21.....of course the main impediment to that is whether Hackson can...
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With this year's draft supposedly very shallow after the first round, you wouldn't trade your first rounder when your pick is middle of the pack unless you are getting a gun
Pick 20 makes you fall outside the 1st round
Yarran isn't worth that IMV
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There'll be a few more than just 18 good players in the draft.....Kevin Sheehan said after the champs there should still be talent to be found in the 30's....as I said, the big problem for Richmond is that our recruiters struggle with picks after the first round even in the most bountiful of times and some would argue haven't always nailed the first rounders either....but if we could somehow still land two kids like, say, Crocker & Rioli, it'd be a good result IMO...
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There'll be a few more than just 18 good players in the draft.....Kevin Sheehan said after the champs there should still be talent to be found in the 30's....as I said, the big problem for Richmond is that our recruiters struggle with picks after the first round even in the most bountiful of times and some would argue haven't always nailed the first rounders either....but if we could somehow still land two kids like, say, Crocker & Rioli, it'd be a good result IMO...
Completely agree Dioc. Would love either or both of these and there are others that may still be around too. However, we almost never go for exciting X factor types. We usually play safe…..
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picks 20-50 go at about 30% chance of getting a 100 game player.
1-10 was 60 % and from memory 10-20 wasnt too far behind.
12 is too good of a pick to lose to get yarran
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picks 20-50 go at about 30% chance of getting a 100 game player.
1-10 was 60 % and from memory 10-20 wasnt too far behind.
12 is too good of a pick to lose to get yarran
Agreed. Carlton don't really have much leverage here. They can either A). Take an extra 2nd round pick whilst rebuilding. Even in a shallow draft that's a decent enough result. or B). retain a guy who DOESN'T want to be there, who has a previous history of poor behaviour, playing with and influencing their younger picks who are their future. Can't understand their logic. Take what you can get an run...
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I had a quick look at how Hawthorne built their team that won this years premiership.
very few players drafted with picks that people would call 2nd rounders. They have been more than happy to trade these picks out.
The only player in that team that they traded an early pick for was Burguoine, who is a class above yarran
if i can be arsed at some stage i will put the info together..maybe
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Here's a scenario:
Not sure if its already been suggested, but something along the lines of Yarran + Henderson for our first rounder and Lennon?
Henderson would sure up our backline (if we trade Astbury we enter the draft around the 20 mark but Henderson covers the loss)
and Yarran playing up to his potential next year & '17 is what Lennon might become a few years later.
Gamble, giving up a lot, but I'd take it.
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picks 20+ are arse.
pick 12 should get you a good player
Not for fj they aren't :shh
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stupid troll
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picks 20+ are arse.
pick 12 should get you a good player
Not for fj they aren't :shh
stupid troll
Another blatant troll from trolljangles the serial troll.
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With this year's draft supposedly very shallow after the first round, you wouldn't trade your first rounder when your pick is middle of the pack unless you are getting a gun
Pick 20 makes you fall outside the 1st round
Yarran isn't worth that IMV
Agree ...
Hence the rumour circling.
Wouldn't give a 1st round pick for Yarran.
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why the heck would you offer top dollar in a market of one...we are the only serious bidders
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Jack Redden goes to WC for their first round pick (17). :whistle
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17 , crikey, true worth ~25
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4. Scott Selwood to Geelong as a free agent.
West Coast receive a second round pick (#37) as compensation.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-12/selwood-free-to-move-to-cats-as-eagles-opt-not-to-match-offer
gee whiz what a steal.
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gee whiz what a steal.
Yep..
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West Coast are furious. Still, they couldnt find a spot for him in the GF....
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From The Age......
"The Blues and Richmond did not advance significantly on the move of contracted running player Chris Yarran to Punt Road. Richmond have said they will not trade their first round pick for Yarran.
The Tigers' young forward Ben Lennon remains out of contract, with negotiations on the terms of a new deal yet to be concluded. While Richmond remains optimistic of re-signing him the fact he remains out of contract with the trade period now underway is surprising. No club is understood to have enquired about Lennon as a trade target on Monday at the opening of trades.
Richmond has reiterated their decision not to trade key backman David Astbury despite some interest from clubs. A deal will be done this week to move young GWS midfielder Jacob Townsend to Punt Road."
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2015-saints-explore-pick-slide-for-jake-carlisle-20151012-gk7aji.html
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gee whiz what a steal.
Yep..
actually, geelong gave up what every free trade movement has seen given up..............
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From BF:
Had a chat to a mate of mine who has been reliable in the past. Wasn't really expecting he'd have much on day one, but our conversations always seem to find their way to list management.
As always, happy to pass on what I hear. And as always, there are no guarantees in life.
1. Carlton aren't getting pick 12. However we are confident that Yarran will get to us, for a mutually acceptable pick.
2. We have no confidence in the mid to late draft. We'd rather trade later picks for players with a few years of development under their belts. There are at least four players we are considering, might pick up two of them depending on how the period goes. Apparently building midfield depth is a priority.
3. Upgrading picks is firmly on the agenda. We've had plenty of enquiries re players who aren't getting regular senior opportunity.
4. Belief at the club is that we've dodged a massive bullett with Bennell. Full story hasn't made it to the media, and isn't likely to be revealed - the club isn't in the business of kicking blokes when they're down. (Personally I wish him well at Freo).
5. We are in serious talks with a contracted player. His club will not want to trade him. We believe the right offer (picks plus player), along with salary cap pressure, might just shake him loose. Prepared to give quality to get quality. Will be massive if it comes off. Midfielder. (And no, I don't have the name.)
So yeah, not a lot that's particularly exciting, with the exception of what seems like a long shot.... Still, plenty of water to flow under the bridge before the trade period ends.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-101#post-41479584
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From BF:
Had a chat to a mate of mine who has been reliable in the past. Wasn't really expecting he'd have much on day one, but our conversations always seem to find their way to list management.
As always, happy to pass on what I hear. And as always, there are no guarantees in life.
5. We are in serious talks with a contracted player. His club will not want to trade him. We believe the right offer (picks plus player), along with salary cap pressure, might just shake him loose. Prepared to give quality to get quality. Will be massive if it comes off. Midfielder. (And no, I don't have the name.)
So yeah, not a lot that's particularly exciting, with the exception of what seems like a long shot.... Still, plenty of water to flow under the bridge before the trade period ends.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-101#post-41479584
Brent Harvey :shh :rollin
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Re-Cap of Day One
- Brisbane are a potential suitor for North Melbourne's Ryan Bastinac. - Trade Radio
- Melbourne have traded Pick 25 to Essendon for Jake Melksham.
- Essendon have denied reports that Brendan Goddard will be at another club in 2016.
- Gold Coast's asking price for Charlie Dixon is 2 First Round draft picks and Port Adelaide are not willing to pay that much for the key forward.
- Matthew Leuenberger, has officially nominated Essendon as his preferred Club of choice for season 2016 to 2018.
- Western Bulldogs young gun Nathan Hrovat has emerged as a target of several clubs but wants to stay with the Dogs.
- West Coast will speak to Callum Sinclair about including the ruckman in a potential deal that would see Sydney speedster Lewis Jetta arrive at the Eagles
- Gold Coast hopes it can finalise a deal for Collingwood wantaway Paul Seedsman.
- Adelaide have become major players for Hawthorn's Jed Anderson, despite reports from 1116 SEN early today that the 21 year-old had requested a trade to West Coast.
- Collingwood, Gold Coast and North Melbourne remain in the hunt for Jeremy Howe, with the Herald Sun reporting that the high-flyer will likely cost a club mid-20s selection in a trade.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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North Melbourne has made a bold bid for exciting playmakers Jeremy Howe and Paul Seedsman in an attempt to top-up its premiership assault next season.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-north-melbourne-make-bold-bids-for-jeremy-howe-and-paul-seedsman/story-fnj3twbb-1227566459824
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The GWS Giants are targeting a mature ruckman this Trade Period. Carlton's Robbie Warnock, North Melbourne's Dan Currie and Geelong's Dawson Simpson are all on their radar.
- Nick Bowen, http://www.afl.com.au
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St Kilda are exploring ways of turning pick five into two first round draft selections, to try to deliver a pick to Essendon for Jake Carlisle while maintaining a first-round presence in the draft.
Essendon have expressed interest in Western Bulldogs key backman Michael Talia and have also enquired about midfielder Mitch Honeychurch.
Brisbane are negotiating with Carlton about a possible trade of pick 21 for the contracted Tom Bell and key forward Levi Casboult.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2015-saints-explore-pick-slide-for-jake-carlisle-20151012-gk7aji.html#ixzz3oLVsRI1q
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On Channel 7 news last night it said we were interested in Port Adelaide's Andrew Moore. Has anyone heard anything further about this?
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On Channel 7 news last night it said we were interested in Port Adelaide's Andrew Moore. Has anyone heard anything further about this?
There are more developments about Moore in his thread. Basically it states that most of his development occured under ground before he was unearthed by Hartley and Richardson.
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which I think is a great buy. Only guessing based on the Eagles compo pick but a salary of 300-350 is a very good get for them
The compo pick is a complete farce. Those flogs make it up as they see fit
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SEN just saying that Luke Parker to........Richmond or Brisbane by the end of the week, not sure which one Bartlett said as my radio cut out. More coming up shortly.
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SEN just saying that Luke Parker to........Richmond or Brisbane by the end of the week, not sure which one Bartlett said as my radio cut out. More coming up shortly.
The suggestion was Richmond.
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SEN just saying that Luke Parker to........Richmond or Brisbane by the end of the week, not sure which one Bartlett said as my radio cut out. More coming up shortly.
He said the rumor is Parker will be s Tiger by the end of the week.
Brett Anderson is following up on the rumor, full report on all trade week news after 11
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Surely not, this could not be the trade that shuts me up, no way.. :lol
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Redden off to the Eagles, as well as Jetta another missed opportunity for us. Eagles will be massive next year.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/live-whos-on-the-move-on-day-two-of-trade-period
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Redden off to the Eagles, as well as Jetta another missed opportunity for us. Eagles will be massive next year.
:banghead :banghead :banghead
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Redden off to the Eagles, as well as Jetta another missed opportunity for us. Eagles will be massive next year.
:banghead :banghead :banghead
Don't be silly.
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SEN, Trade Central;
Goddard's names coming up, Goddard keen to stay at club....seem to think he will stay, but who knows.
Bell from the Blues looks like going to Brisbane with Casboult...
Lots of names linked to the Blues. Plowman, Phillips, Lamb, Tomlinson, all from GWS...
So far......more to come.
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Goddard posted on twitter he's red+black.
SEN just saying that Luke Parker to........Richmond or Brisbane by the end of the week, not sure which one Bartlett said as my radio cut out. More coming up shortly.
He said the rumor is Parker will be s Tiger by the end of the week.
Brett Anderson is following up on the rumor, full report on all trade week news after 11
Jon Ralph said that when the Parker to Melbourne rumour was going around, they checked it up and was told Parker is happy in Sydney.
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GREATER Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar is no certainty to go to Collingwood, with multiple clubs having enquired about him, Giants footy operations boss Graeme Allan says.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/more-than-magpies-in-the-mix-for-treloar-giants
Jon Ralph on SEN says Treloar doesn't want to go to Richmond and Richmond has given up.
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SEN, more;
Jeremy Howe; Collingwood talking to him through Buckley, Howe would like to get there. Collingwood have a lot on with Treloar and Aish. Also interest from the GC. Looks like the Pies are Howe's preference. North also in the race. 35-40 goal year.
Treloar; being help up by manager, threatening to put him in the draft. Not all smooth sailing but the Pies are saying it will get done and Treloar does not want to go to Richmond, he would rather go to the Blues. Collingwood threatening to expose GWS dirty laundry if it doesn't happen.
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:facepalm
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Cam McCarthy's going nowhere, Adam Tomlinson's just bought a house in Sydney and a deal for Adam Treloar is still has "a long time to go", according to GWS footy boss Graeme 'Gubby' Allan.
News from @cleary_mitch: If Cam McCarthy deal falls through, Freo will target Levi Casboult in its search for a key forward #NABTradeRadio
Could Ahmed Saad be about to depart Seaford? It's been an interesting journey for the small forward and Trade Radio's Mitch Cleary reports Collingwood is interested in the 26-year-old. The Pies and Saints are set to deal for injury-prone youngster Nathan Freeman, could Saad be part of that negotiation?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/live-whos-on-the-move-on-day-two-of-trade-period
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Grigg being talked about.. :pray
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yeah thats beacause like chaplin, mention his name and the other footballers being discussed magically improve
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Grigg being talked about.. :pray
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Club must've finally received permission from Deledio.....
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Grigg still out of contract.
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Grigg still out of contract.
Holding out for overs
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Grigg still out of contract.
Holding out for overs
Oh yeah..watch this spot.
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Jon Ralph said that when the Parker to Melbourne rumour was going around, they checked it up and was told Parker is happy in Sydney.
When Peanut Barrett broke news that McCarthy wanted back to WA, GWS put up photos of McCarthy looking happy in Sydney, and that the story was a load.
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Grigg still out of contract.
Holding out for overs
Laugh or cry
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Greame Allen again adamant every GWS player loves Sydney. This time, on Adam Tomlinson and being linked to the Tigers. "I don't know where those rumours came from, Adam is contracted and loves it up here."
Greg Denham believes that Collingwood have interest in St Kilda's Blake Acres.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
CARLTON is making an aggressive play to lure out-of-contract Adelaide midfielder Sam Kerridge home to Victoria.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/blues-chasing-hard-after-outofcontract-crow
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Tomlinson yes please....
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Sounds like the Fat one and his mates have been very naughty boys :shh
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Does the trade period go through the weekend?
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demetriou?
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Does the trade period go through the weekend?
Finishes next Thursday 22nd October
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Matt Crouch is off the trade table. He's signed a new deal to remain at the Crows.
Power ruckman Matthew Lobbe is going nowhere during this Trade Period, according to Port Adelaide's general manager of footy Chris Davies.
Speaking on Adelaide radio station 5AA today, Davies shut down trade talk about the big man.
Brisbane, furious with the compo system (Greg Swann called it "chook-lotto"), has thrown a spanner in the works for Essendon. The Bombers thought they'd get Leuenberger for nothing as a free agent today but the Lions are threatening to match Essendon's offer to force a trade out of the Bombers and get a better deal than the compo pick (#39) offered by the AFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/live-whos-on-the-move-on-day-two-of-trade-period
Bulldogs' Jarrad Grant will be left in limbo during the entire trade period before the club decides whether to offer him a contract. The Dogs risk losing the 26-year-old who could join another club as an unrestricted free agent. - SEN
Bulldogs defender Michael Talia has attracted the interest of Sydney and reportedly wants to join brother Daniel at Adelaide. Essendon have also enquired about the defender. - SEN
David Schwarz has reported that Jeremy Howe will be at Collingwood in 2016. - SEN
Hawthorn List Manager Graham Wright has confirmed that the Hawks are still trying to persuade Jed Anderson to stay with the club despite requesting a trade.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Wait till the last 48 hours then it will be :cheers
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The queue of players going to Collingwood
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt26RIjrBndLPTIiuS-oBYAZIUO3VwFWhi7UY5tow7OuMixLAyaGuf7sVT)
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The queue of players going to Collingwood
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt26RIjrBndLPTIiuS-oBYAZIUO3VwFWhi7UY5tow7OuMixLAyaGuf7sVT)
The queue of who Nought is after also.
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The queue of players going to Collingwood
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt26RIjrBndLPTIiuS-oBYAZIUO3VwFWhi7UY5tow7OuMixLAyaGuf7sVT)
And losing, Freeman , Kennedy & Seedsman so far
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news doesn't have Howe going to the Pies. He has Gold Coast offering Howe a 3-4 year deal with a swap of early first round picks.
"I'll go again .. If Howe goes to Suns, Dees set to get pick 3 .. Suns get pick 6 and Howe .. Dees a steak knife too probably"
https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL/with_replies
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Andrew Moore anyone? :shh
been a huge dud so far. dont like big blokes who are soft
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The queue of players going to Collingwood
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt26RIjrBndLPTIiuS-oBYAZIUO3VwFWhi7UY5tow7OuMixLAyaGuf7sVT)
:lol how true.
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no idea if this is true or not,but theres a rumour floating around this evening that the griggster has signed a new contract
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So now that all the decent players are leaving their clubs this year under the pathetic FA ruling watch next year..
The rules will be tightened up, we will go in with our war chest and pay twice as much in compensation and money for an avrerge fish....oh the RFC..... :help
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no idea if this is true or not,but theres a rumour floating around this evening that the griggster has signed a new contract
True.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=23047.0
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Ta one eyed..obviously I'ma bit slow on this one..whenever i see seans name i race by it
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.whenever i see seans name i race by it
x 2 :clapping
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Oh goody, we have locked another star in.. :help
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-138#post-41504003
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Yeah...that'll happen.....
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From BF:
OK, time to share. I have been quiet as i have been getting stuff sorted to what I think is close to the mark. As TB said, poos fluid but you know that, what may happen below is what I think may be likely unless something changes.
I'll start with the bad poo first.
I think Lennon is gone. I believe we are trying to trade him for a first rounder. I would not be surprised if he is playing interstate next year for either Brisbanes or Sydneys first rounder.
We are using the Astbury is contracted line to force his price higher ( mentioned that to a few people a few weeks back) It may work and they indeed offer there second rounder, pick 21. If they do that, we can then pass on to the blues and get Yarran. I do think they will take 21 if we do not blink. I do know the lions want to only use there third so what I heard from a mate, is lennon coming in...Lennon and Astbury for 17 and 21.
We then have 2 first rounders this year, what do we use them on ? I believe we are making a serious play at a few targets still and those two picks will come into play. My fear, we are left hanging and have to draft two quality kids when we already had a quality kid in Lennon.
Now the positives.
I mentioned to a few this morning. Townsend is basically done. Yarran deal may hold it up but IMO it wont.
We will be getting Yarren, love it. Think he will add value.
Bottom line we should end up with 4 new players....My fear and i hope i am wrong, these deals take to long and when we get the picks we want Jed Anderson for example is already gone.
Anyway, i do know Lennon has had a few offers in front of him, so far he has not signed. If he is still un signed by next week, he is being traded UNLESS something majorly changes.
Hope some sense prevails, we sign him up. Tell the blues to take 21 or pee off and then give our 4th for Townsend and our first for Jed Anderson for the Hawks second rounder returned to us.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-135#post-41503049
I think he [Lennon] is up to it, just that we can get a better player. Hope Dan knows what he is doing, as it may blow up in his face. Unlike some, the Dollars are not really that far apart. Lennon will take unders from whats been "offered" elsewhere to still play for us, but it was still more then what our value system places him....I am not saying its 100% he is leaving, just now i am thinking its likely.
Watch him sign tomorrow arvo lol
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-136#post-41503250
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Strange times when someone on BF makes more sense than most posters on OER.
And we have a demented Mod who thinks everything is so funny. (Time to see your psych methinks)
Anyway as always I am enjoying the roller-coaster that is the RFC.
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:lol :lol
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High-flying Melbourne forward Jeremy Howe is waiting on a Collingwood contract offer before deciding where he will ask to be traded to. North Melbourne and Gold Coast have made offers for Howe but Collingwood are still to decide if they will make a offer. Collingwood have met Howe several times and are interested in the forward. Howe met Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley recently to talk through the possibility of a move and where he would fit at the club.
A meeting between Fremantle coach Ross Lyon and Harley Bennell has helped ease the Dockers' nerves about taking the midfielder on. It is understood Lyon and Bennell met face-to-face in Perth on Tuesday, with the Dockers shaping as the Gold Coast player's probable new home despite the club wavering somewhat in recent days. While the Suns will push for at least the Dockers' first pick in the draft, No. 16, Fremantle is likely to view that as too big a price given the lack of competition for the highly talented onballer. Fremantle doesn't pick again until No. 35, meaning the club may look to secure a pick somewhere in the 20s to offer for the talented 21-year-old.
Sydney has joined those clubs interested in Collingwood wingman Paul Seedsman, who is yet to decide which club he would prefer to be traded to. Gold Coast and North have made offers for the midfielder.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/afl-trades-2015-fremantle-starts-warming-to-harley-bennell-trade-20151013-gk89is.html
Star utility Brendon Goddard has also been linked to a move west to join his former coach Ross Lyon at Fremantle but the Bombers are adamant the 30-year-old is going nowhere.
Defender Courtenay Dempsey is also out of contract and has been linked to a move to Sydney but Casley, who also handles Dempsey, said he would meet with Worsfold before deciding his future.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-elliott-kavanagh-wants-to-stay-at-essendon/story-fnj3twbb-1227567906195
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-138#post-41504003
Stop torturing me you bastards!!
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Henderson off to the Cats for their 2016 first round pick. So that's the first use of trading future picks.
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Henderson to the Cats, done deal. FFS, they will be back to their best, Sellwood, Dangerfield and Henderson..
RFC = stuff ALL
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-138#post-41504003
Stop torturing me you bastards!!
tigers wont trade first pick as it will go to swans and there next years first round pick for Parker... well that's what I am dreaming of we must be due to pull something like this of maybe we can offer 1st pick and lennon for parker
Also on sen reports yesterday that the Jagar man will be on the move in 2017 and 2 clubs fighting for him already are tigers and saints wants to move to Melbourne for commercial and business opportunities
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Henderson to the Cats, done deal. FFS, they will be back to their best, Sellwood, Dangerfield and Henderson..
RFC = stuff ALL
If you put those 3 into our team, we'd be a good chance of top 4.
They're going to a poo side with a poo dumb arse coach, they'll be bottom 5.
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-138#post-41504003
Stop torturing me you bastards!!
tigers wont trade first pick as it will go to swans and there next years first round pick for Parker... well that's what I am dreaming of we must be due to pull something like this of maybe we can offer 1st pick and lennon for parker
Also on sen reports yesterday that the Jagar man will be on the move in 2017 and 2 clubs fighting for him already are tigers and saints wants to move to Melbourne for commercial and business opportunities
Yes Ive heard hes quite the entrepreneur, and as he will probably only play around 100 games hes looking for other options. Still we'd have to give up a LOT for him and he'd be unlikely to play out a big career. Id prefer Parker to JOM. Im kind of hoping.....and I mean really hoping.... that we've said no to Astbury moving and havent been willing to budge on Yarran in order to make sure we can facilitate a bigger trade..... :rollin
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Henderson to the Cats, done deal. FFS, they will be back to their best, Sellwood, Dangerfield and Henderson..
RFC = stuff ALL
If you put those 3 into our team, we'd be a good chance of top 4.
They're going to a poo side with a poo dumb arse coach, they'll be bottom 5.
Put those 3 in our side and we would win the GF.
Don't think so, in fact I think they will finish top 4.
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now:
* "Richmond has a lot of baits in the water but no one is biting."
* Treloar trade should be done by the end of the week. Collingwood now offering their first round picks from 2015 & 2016 and will get a pick back (likely to a 2nd rounder for this year's draft).
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Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Mitch Grigg and Sam Shaw have all re-signed with the Crows. So they are off the market. - AFL website
Brisbane are heavily into Geelong Josh Walker according to Mitch Cleary on AFL Trade Radio. Brett Anderson on SEN says the Carlton offer to Walker is less than first thought so Walker is looking at all options.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.afl.com.au
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JUST IN | We understand @GWSGIANTS has signed @GeelongCats big man Dawson Simpson as a backup ruckman to Shane Mumford #TradeSENtral
https://twitter.com/SENfooty
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now:
* "Richmond has a lot of baits in the water but no one is biting."
* Treloar trade should be done by the end of the week. Collingwood now offering their first round picks from 2015 & 2016 and will get a pick back (likely to a 2nd rounder for this year's draft).
hahah a lot of baite in the water maybe change the bait to something that may attract the bites come on tigers only 8 days left :banghead :banghead :banghead
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"Richmond has a lot of baits in the water but no one is biting."
no takers on grigg it would seem
gordon and hampson getting no takers? well ill be
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Henderson to the Cats, done deal. FFS, they will be back to their best, Sellwood, Dangerfield and Henderson..
RFC = stuff ALL
If you put those 3 into our team, we'd be a good chance of top 4.
They're going to a poo side with a poo dumb arse coach, they'll be bottom 5.
Put those 3 in our side and we would win the GF.
Don't think so, in fact I think they will finish top 4.
Geelong have sold the farm to remain a " good ordinary" team .
Have thrown away future first round draft picks to remain competitive in the now.
Me thinks Dangerfield will never become a premiership player.
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now:
* "Richmond has a lot of baits in the water but no one is biting."
* Treloar trade should be done by the end of the week. Collingwood now offering their first round picks from 2015 & 2016 and will get a pick back (likely to a 2nd rounder for this year's draft).
hahah a lot of baite in the water maybe change the bait to something that may attract the bites come on tigers only 8 days left :banghead :banghead :banghead
Change the bait to Ben Lennon?
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now:
* "Richmond has a lot of baits in the water but no one is biting."
* Treloar trade should be done by the end of the week. Collingwood now offering their first round picks from 2015 & 2016 and will get a pick back (likely to a 2nd rounder for this year's draft).
hahah a lot of baite in the water maybe change the bait to something that may attract the bites come on tigers only 8 days left :banghead :banghead :banghead
Change the bait to Ben Lennon?
Too much barley and not enough bait Id have thought...
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I've heard carton are trying to convince Ben Lennon to go into PSD where they will pick him up at No1 :banghead
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Fremantle 16 and 35 for Bennell and 22 done.
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CONTROVERSIAL Gold Coast midfielder Harley Bennell has joined Fremantle on a three-year deal.
The Suns received the Dockers' first-round (No.16) and second-round (No.35) picks in exchange for Bennell and the Suns' second-round pick (No.22).
Bennell said he was delighted to be heading back to his native WA, and promised to "knuckle down".
"I'm excited about returning home to WA and joining Fremantle," he told the club's website.
"I want to thank the Gold Coast for drafting me and the support they have offered me during my time at the club.
"My main focus now is to knuckle down and have a solid pre-season over the coming months."
Fremantle's general manager of player management, Brad Lloyd, said club officials, including coach Ross Lyon, had met with Bennell several times over the past few weeks.
Bennell has also met with the player leadership group.
From:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-fremantle-dockers-secure-harley-bennell-in-trade/story-fni5f6su-1227568906219
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Bennell!! What a bloody steal. Basically a 2nd round pick yet we will probably have to give 12 to get Yarran.
Doesnt make sense.
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Bennell!! What a bloody steal. Basically a 2nd round pick yet we will probably have to give 12 to get Yarran.
Doesnt make sense.
it's only a "steal" it it works out and he stays out of trouble, which history says is not guaranteed
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.@GWSGIANTS coach Leon Cameron confirms Stevie J been at club Says no deal on table for now.
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsNews
Geelong list manager Stephen Wells has confirmed Jarrad Jansen will be traded to the Brisbane Lions.
North Melbourne's Dan Currie has officially nominated The Gold Coast Suns as his home for 2016. - Trade Radio
Sydney are refusing to give up their pursuit for West Coast ruckman Callum Sinclair as they look for a replacement for Mike Pyke, who could soon retire. Sinclair's manager Andrew McDougall told The West Australian his client is "looking at the opportunity", mooted to be a four-year deal. - AFL website
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Bennell!! What a bloody steal. Basically a 2nd round pick yet we will probably have to give 12 to get Yarran.
Doesnt make sense.
it's only a "steal" it it works out and he stays out of trouble, which history says is not guaranteed
Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
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Bennell!! What a bloody steal. Basically a 2nd round pick yet we will probably have to give 12 to get Yarran.
Doesnt make sense.
it's only a "steal" it it works out and he stays out of trouble, which history says is not guaranteed
Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
It was well known that Bennell was going back to his home state.
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It's doesn't fit not blaming the football department.
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Sinclair to Swans, Jetta to WCE. Just done.
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Sinclair to Swans, Jetta to WCE. Just done.
A good young Ruckman for a 30 minute footballer is a huge win for the Swans. :o
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Sinclair to Swans, Jetta to WCE. Just done.
A good young Ruckman for a 30 minute footballer is a huge win for the Swans. :o
30 minute footballer = X factor
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Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
And if we'd had taken him and it all turned pear shaped you'd be one of the first people who would jump and down, bag the club taking him on
Facts are our club did their "due diligence" and their were massive alarm bells, not minor concerns, big ones.... we dodged a bullet and Freo & Ross can have him
Club giving up on this bloke was the right call
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Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
And if we'd had taken him and it all turned pear shaped you'd be one of the first people who would jump and down, bag the club taking him on
Facts are our club did their "due diligence" and their were massive alarm bells, not minor concerns, big ones.... we dodged a bullet and Freo & Ross can have him
Club giving up on this bloke was the right call
He would have had to change his username to Harvey Hampson
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or elmo the emo
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:lol
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Jeremy Howe seems headed to Collingwood in a deal worth about $400,000 a year for four seasons.
A deal will likely involve a player swap for Collingwood midfielder Ben Kennedy, who is determined to find his way to Melbourne [however, Mark Stevens on Ch 7 said Melbourne won't accept a simple swap].
Gold Coast has given up any hope he will be heading north. North Melbourne also has interest in Howe but given their second-round pick is 34 it would be harder for them to get a deal done.
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Collingwood believes it has had an in-principle agreement with Greater Western Sydney on midfielder Adam Treloar for weeks.
They are prepared to hand over their first-round picks from this year and next year in exchange for Treloar and the Giants’ second-round pick from this or next year.
The Pies continue be frustrated by GWS chief executive David Matthews’ determination to play hard ball on a deal others at GWS have effectively ticked off.
They believe he would get through to their No. 7 pick in the National Draft given other clubs have their eyes on younger talent.
If he was picked up by a rival club he could play at that club for a year before requesting a trade, but the Pies say it is a last resort given their good faith in sealing a trade.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-jeremy-howe-appears-headed-to-collingwood/story-fnj3twbb-1227569137659
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Busy weekend coming up for BH and DR.
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Busy weekend coming up for BH and DR.
Hopefully, Dan's smart enough to give Blair the weekend off, take some responsibility and fix this mess they've created
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They're both idiots.
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Busy weekend coming up for BH and DR.
Hopefully, Dan's smart enough to give Blair the weekend off, take some responsibility and fix this mess they've created
Yeah it's all blairs fault hey? Dan squeaky clean
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what exactly is being talked about here?
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Who's most at fault for Chaplin & Grigg....
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So much hate for Chaplin and Grigg.
Players with limitations, but who clearly improved our list and are still best 22.
They need to be upgraded sure, but it's not their fault our list management isn't addressing this issue...
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Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
And if we'd had taken him and it all turned pear shaped you'd be one of the first people who would jump and down, bag the club taking him on
Facts are our club did their "due diligence" and their were massive alarm bells, not minor concerns, big ones.... we dodged a bullet and Freo & Ross can have him
Club giving up on this bloke was the right call
I disagree.
If we have had brokered the same sort of deal that Freeo did, even if it didn't work what really would we have lost? Griff standard sort of player. Big deal! With the amount if crap on our list he was definitely worth the rick.
So sick of the RFC's holier than holly attitude. Back your employers in to change the kid around. In saying that, what has he really done that probably 50% of players in the AFL haven't done. He is no Ben Cousins!!
Makes me sick the flogs running this club.
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:chuck
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@Barrot01 - just a quick message to see if Richmond are still working on a bigger trade?
@BrettAndersonIF - Trying but nothing coming up.
@andrewjd84 - any news on tigers keep hearing a big fish but not seeing anything?
@BrettAndersonIF - Plenty of lines in the water but no bites.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Well considering that we wasted and continue to waste our money on knight, grigg and Hampson I think we should have made more of an effort. Eg replace the idiots that we have in place at the moment doing our deals. Seriously if your treloar armitage don't want a bar of these amateurs what hope is Bennell of listening
And if we'd had taken him and it all turned pear shaped you'd be one of the first people who would jump and down, bag the club taking him on
Facts are our club did their "due diligence" and their were massive alarm bells, not minor concerns, big ones.... we dodged a bullet and Freo & Ross can have him
Club giving up on this bloke was the right call
No I wouldn't have. We now need to take risks because maintaining the status quo is clearly not working. We wasted our time with the above names with zero return
Those names were more of a risk because one simply had no talent and the other is a sporting cripple.
I maintain my stance that it's too much of a coincidence now, that IMO zig Richardson and zag Hartley are really not good at their job and should be stood down after the PSD draft.
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I disagree.
If we have had brokered the same sort of deal that Freeo did, even if it didn't work what really would we have lost? Griff standard sort of player. Big deal! With the amount if crap on our list he was definitely worth the rick.
So sick of the RFC's holier than holly attitude. Back your employers in to change the kid around. In saying that, what has he really done that probably 50% of players in the AFL haven't done. He is no Ben Cousins!!
Makes me sick the flogs running this club.
I understand your point but...
Some people bag the club for sake of bagging and that's what would have happened in this scenario
as the saying goes
Damned if you do, damned if you don't :thumbsup
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Your FOS WP in this instance
Name those people who would have. I am one according to you who are the others?
Who would have bagged the club for giving Bennell a go if it turned south?
Wake the stuff up please
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:dancingpickle :dancingpickle :dancingpickle :dancingpickle :dancingpickle
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Your FOS WP in this instance
Name those people who would have. I am one according to you who are the others?
Who would have bagged the club for giving Bennell a go if it turned south?
Wake the stuff up please
It's easier to answer by listing who wouldn't bag the club
The RCGG.
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I'm with Dan here.
The recruiters have not done enough to lure a bloke who never wanted to come here.
Why couldnt they have kidnapped him, plied him full of coke and got a hooker to wrangle out his signature? How hard could it be?
Amateur hour continues at the RFC
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I totally agree with the clubs stance on Bennell and I have said that from the start.
I am also content that the club has done everything they could have done to lure Treloar to the club and that failed.
What I am not content with, not happy with and never will be is the lack of aggressiveness to try and get other players to the club that in all honesty we could do with. Only really being linked to Bennell and Treloar is not good enough, why? Because it was the RFC that came out saying they had the big war chest, they wanted the big fish, they filled a lot of us with false hope and they have done this year after year.
As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's. So where we in all of that, surely we have known who was going where? Yet the RFC still chose to carry on about luring someone big to the club, only to do a 180 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
So now to save face they are trying to top up with mid to low level players that we already have a enough of. They are also making this Yarran deal very difficult regardless of the games the Blues are playing. Honestly, they had the balls to walk away from the Bennell deal so do the same with the Yarran deal, we cannot accept giving up pick 12.
Honestly RFC don't fill us full of false hope next year during this period.
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I'm with Dan here.
The recruiters have not done enough to lure a bloke who never wanted to come here.
Why couldnt they have kidnapped him, plied him full of coke and got a hooker to wrangle out his signature? How hard could it be?
Amateur hour continues at the RFC
why offer boring pee take?
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Your FOS WP in this instance
Name those people who would have. I am one according to you who are the others?
Who would have bagged the club for giving Bennell a go if it turned south?
Wake the stuff up please
No need for the agression or absue Angus
Did I name you? No
Do I think you would have? I honestly don't know only you can answer that.
But history shows that there are people on this site who will bag the club and everyone person at the club for whatever they do or don't do
And that was my point
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I totally agree with the clubs stance on Bennell and I have said that from the start.
I am also content that the club has done everything they could have done to lure Treloar to the club and that failed.
What I am not content with, not happy with and never will be is the lack of aggressiveness to try and get other players to the club that in all honesty we could do with. Only really being linked to Bennell and Treloar is not good enough, why? Because it was the RFC that came out saying they had the big war chest, they wanted the big fish, they filled a lot of us with false hope and they have done this year after year.
As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's. So where we in all of that, surely we have known who was going where? Yet the RFC still chose to carry on about luring someone big to the club, only to do a 360 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
So now to save face they are trying to top up with mid to low level players that we already have a enough of. They are also making this Yarran deal very difficult regardless of the games the Blues are playing. Honestly, they had the balls to walk away from the Bennell deal so do the same with the Yarran deal, we cannot accept giving up pick 12.
Honestly RFC don't fill us full of false hope next year during this period.
Excellent post WAT :clapping
Wel said
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I'm with Dan here.
The recruiters have not done enough to lure a bloke who never wanted to come here.
Why couldnt they have kidnapped him, plied him full of coke and got a hooker to wrangle out his signature? How hard could it be?
Amateur hour continues at the RFC
why offer boring pee take?
Its necessary to remain sane, some of the absolute nonsense that people spout. People furious at themselves for choosing to barrack for the tigers when they actually had no choice (my story) or didn't know anything about the world and liked tigers.
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As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's.
This is where they are going wrong, crossing the I's and dotting the T's
But overall a good post and I agree with what you are saying for once. ;D
only to do a 360 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
Just as a matter of interest though, this is a 180 Deg turn.
A 360 would be them first saying they were, then weren't, to go back to were chasing one.
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As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's.
This is where they are going wrong, crossing the I's and dotting the T's
But overall a good post and I agree with what you are saying for once. ;D
only to do a 360 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
Just as a matter of interest though, this is a 180 Deg turn.
A 360 would be them first saying they were, then weren't, to go back to were chasing one.
Changed... :thumbsup
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
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only to do a 360 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
Just as a matter of interest though, this is a 180 Deg turn.
A 360 would be them first saying they were, then weren't, to go back to were chasing one.
Maybe we are doing a 360 on Treloar
Dan Richardson said we are still in talks with GWS, just in case things with Collingwood go pear shaped. Also said Treloar has said main reason for Pies is Buckley from the U16 academy days
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only to do a 360 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
Just as a matter of interest though, this is a 180 Deg turn.
A 360 would be them first saying they were, then weren't, to go back to were chasing one.
Maybe we are doing a 360 on Treloar
Dan Richardson said we are still in talks with GWS, just in case things with Collingwood go pear shaped. Also said Treloar has said main reason for Pies is Buckley from the U16 academy days
Not the strongest reason in the world really..... :whistle
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From Twitter
@traderadio: Richardson on Bennell: We flew him from Perth, we don't think he or his management gave that process a great deal of respect #NABTradeRadio
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Would have been great to pick him up, but if he's going to disrespect the club like that during preliminary talks, imagine how he'd treat us as a player. He was either playing possum for freo or is just a complete non professional.
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Yep, club made the correct decision on Bennell. Interesting about Treloar, I still think he will get to the Pies, I will be disappointed if Aish gets there too though. The RFC should at least have a good crack at him.
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Yep, glad we didn't take on a player who was a potential liability to start with and then have him for whatever reason disrespect the club's screening process. I may be wrong but I suspect Freo has just opened Pandora's box and it smells like Bear Grills undies after a month long stint in the Amazon.
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Benell aside, this club has zero ruthlessness.
stuffn peeweak, defeatist attitude to trade and draft.
Comical.
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What's funny is Bennell is not going to be the magic pill that Freo need to take them to the next level. They already have enough of his type. They have no tall forwards, so any team with a tall mobile defensive lineup will shut them down. With Pav on his last legs, they are a midget brigade in the forward line with Walters, Mayne, Ballantyne and now Bennell. All I can say is they had better get Sunshine from GWS if they are going to have any hope of delivering some scoreboard pressure in 2016.
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Benell aside, this club has zero ruthlessness.
stuffn peeweak, defeatist attitude to trade and draft.
Comical.
and ... instead of trying
they put out a press release a few days before trade week
"we are not going to get a big fish"
you couldnt make this stuff up :lol
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After listening to the Dan Richo podcast I am nervous about giving up a 2016 pick for Yarran. If we do that I will stuffen :chuck
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After listening to the Dan Richo podcast I am nervous about giving up a 2016 pick for Yarran. If we do that I will stuffen :chuck
:lol
:facepalm
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Heard Bennells manager was a first class FW. Thanks Richo for confirming it.
That will come back to bite him I bet
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Waiting till the Yarran deal is done and then going to shaft those campaigners from Princess Park by stealing Tomlinson from under their noses :clapping :clapping :clapping watch this space.
Tomlinson is perfect replacement for Chaplin
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Collingwood defender Paul Seedsman looks bound for Adelaide after nominating the Crows as his preferred new club on Thursday.
It is believed the Crows have offered Seedsman a three-year contract worth about $330,000 a season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/magpie-seedsman-chooses-adelaide
Hawthorn are considering giving de-listed Demon Jack Fitzpatrick a second chance at an AFL career - Herald Sun
The Age reports that Essendon has shown preliminary interest in West Coast's Brandt Colledge.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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I totally agree with the clubs stance on Bennell and I have said that from the start.
I am also content that the club has done everything they could have done to lure Treloar to the club and that failed.
What I am not content with, not happy with and never will be is the lack of aggressiveness to try and get other players to the club that in all honesty we could do with. Only really being linked to Bennell and Treloar is not good enough, why? Because it was the RFC that came out saying they had the big war chest, they wanted the big fish, they filled a lot of us with false hope and they have done this year after year.
As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's. So where we in all of that, surely we have known who was going where? Yet the RFC still chose to carry on about luring someone big to the club, only to do a 180 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
So now to save face they are trying to top up with mid to low level players that we already have a enough of. They are also making this Yarran deal very difficult regardless of the games the Blues are playing. Honestly, they had the balls to walk away from the Bennell deal so do the same with the Yarran deal, we cannot accept giving up pick 12.
Honestly RFC don't fill us full of false hope next year during this period.
Well I'll be stuffed WAT.
I agree with you and think you have summed it up perfectly.
Add into that the Lennon factor, that has to be sorted as well.
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Confirmed: Jake Melksham off to the Dees for pick 25.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-chat-day-4-will-adam-treloar-deal-get-done-today/story-fnp04d70-1227569698815
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Confirmed: Jake Melksham off to the Dees for pick 25.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-chat-day-4-will-adam-treloar-deal-get-done-today/story-fnp04d70-1227569698815
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I'm with Dan here.
The recruiters have not done enough to lure a bloke who never wanted to come here.
Why couldnt they have kidnapped him, plied him full of coke and got a hooker to wrangle out his signature? How hard could it be?
Amateur hour continues at the RFC
why offer boring pee take?
you may get aroused by the endless emo whining, but surely we allowed something besides that?
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Confirmed: Jake Melksham off to the Dees for pick 25.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-chat-day-4-will-adam-treloar-deal-get-done-today/story-fnp04d70-1227569698815
Must be a VERY weak draft...
or it's Melbourne being Melbourne
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I totally agree with the clubs stance on Bennell and I have said that from the start.
I am also content that the club has done everything they could have done to lure Treloar to the club and that failed.
What I am not content with, not happy with and never will be is the lack of aggressiveness to try and get other players to the club that in all honesty we could do with. Only really being linked to Bennell and Treloar is not good enough, why? Because it was the RFC that came out saying they had the big war chest, they wanted the big fish, they filled a lot of us with false hope and they have done this year after year.
As I said well before trade week, most of the deals were done leading up to this week so it was a formality to dot the I's and cross the T's. So where we in all of that, surely we have known who was going where? Yet the RFC still chose to carry on about luring someone big to the club, only to do a 180 degree turn around and say that they won't be getting a big fish.
So now to save face they are trying to top up with mid to low level players that we already have a enough of. They are also making this Yarran deal very difficult regardless of the games the Blues are playing. Honestly, they had the balls to walk away from the Bennell deal so do the same with the Yarran deal, we cannot accept giving up pick 12.
Honestly RFC don't fill us full of false hope next year during this period.
Well I'll be stuffed WAT.
I agree with you and think you have summed it up perfectly.
Add into that the Lennon factor, that has to be sorted as well.
See, I have been bluffing you :snidegrin lot all along!!
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I'm with Dan here.
The recruiters have not done enough to lure a bloke who never wanted to come here.
Why couldnt they have kidnapped him, plied him full of coke and got a hooker to wrangle out his signature? How hard could it be?
Amateur hour continues at the RFC
yep exactly. 100% pure colombian cocaine would have done the trick. Im so angry we didnt go down this path
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Not half as Harley.
Freo are making him pay for his own coke. (cola variety I'm talking naturally - but with ice )
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Brisbane look set to backflip on their refusal to trade midfielder James Aish after opening talks with Collingwood.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/trade-wrap-lions-magpies-begin-aish-talks
Jeremy Howe has requested a trade to Collingwood.
Collingwood is now working on trades to get three players into the club with Adam Treloar and James Aish also nominating the Magpies.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/demon-jeremy-howe-wants-to-be-a-magpie
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Confirmed: Jake Melksham off to the Dees for pick 25.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-chat-day-4-will-adam-treloar-deal-get-done-today/story-fnp04d70-1227569698815
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Melbourne are the little kid who gets conned out of their lunch money / marbles / footy cards / pokemon's by the other kids at school. At least it wasn't stuffing collingwood who did it I s'pose.
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Geelong will trade Josh Walker and Jarrad Jansen to Brisbane for Lions 3rd Round pick in 2016.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-david-astbury-and-ryan-bastinac-to-visit-brisbane-lions-20151015-gka7le.html
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This Collingwood crap is pooting me. Treloar and Aish, two top line mids, Howe and who next??
Would love to see Richmond trump them with Aish!!!
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This Collingwood crap is pooting me. Treloar and Aish, two top line mids, Howe and who next??
Would love to see Richmond trump them with Aish!!!
Would t get a game on his 2015 exposed form :o
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2 players for a 3rd round pick Geelong ? Must be tight on salary !
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This Collingwood crap is pooting me. Treloar and Aish, two top line mids, Howe and who next??
Would love to see Richmond trump them with Aish!!!
There's no way Collingwood will land both without a second first round pick, it's going to be interesting to see where that comes from😉
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
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Jeeeeeesus how many players are collingwood recruiting?
Hooooow many spors do they have on their list??
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This Collingwood crap is pooting me. Treloar and Aish, two top line mids, Howe and who next??
Would love to see Richmond trump them with Aish!!!
There's no way Collingwood will land both without a second first round pick, it's going to be interesting to see where that comes from😉
Yeah could end up very bad for them too if they start trading picks for years to come.
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
Hearing from whom? His own manager said he didn't have an offer before the medical so was he telling porkies then or is he telling porkies now or are you or your source making poo up? Keeping in mind the damage was done before the medical.
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From Twitter Treloar tokes all but done
@theafloffseason: Collingwood have submitted paperwork for Adam Treloar this evening, handing over two first-round picks (2015 +... http://t.co/UdNrh5w3nQ
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From Twitter Treloar tokes all but done
@theafloffseason: Collingwood have submitted paperwork for Adam Treloar this evening, handing over two first-round picks (2015 +... http://t.co/UdNrh5w3nQ
Honestly not the worst result. Wont be a great second rounder if Gws do well next year (which they will) and the pies have to cough up 2 first rounders during their "rebuild". I reckon we might have forced the price up. WP tigers!
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
Hearing from whom? His own manager said he didn't have an offer before the medical so was he telling porkies then or is he telling porkies now or are you or your source making poo up? Keeping in mind the damage was done before the medical.
Hearing from 2 different people. 1 pretty close to the club. The other with connections to another club.
Believe what you like but I'm told a verbal offer was discussed BEFORE the missed medical and the late night, which might make some sense as to why the medical was missed.
From listening to Scott Lucas (player manager) on SEN "an offer" is a written offer, discussing figures isn't an offer.
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@AFLTrade: Trade will be lodged tomorrow that's sees Collingwood trade their 1st round picks in this years & next years draft for Treloar & 2nd rd pick
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OK folks.
How are these clubs getting the guns..Are we prudent ,hopeless ,or just not interested?
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The middle one
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I suppose when you try to hammer in a culture of not paying overs for anybody it makes it hard to then go and throw the sink at good players when you need them without upsetting the prima donnas at the club.
Good idea when you have young guns coming through who want too much money, but also a bad idea when your team is average at best and one day you might need to actually throw that proverbial sink to bridge the gap...
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Bombers look like using the Giants' need for draft points to get their academy players, to gain another top 10 pick.
GWS swap pick 8 (1551 points)
for
Essendon's pick 23 (815) & pick 25 (756) = 1571 points
GWS better off with picks 23 & 25 to use on academy players (Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy)
GWS will get No.7 (1644 pts) off Coll for Treloar.
Same deal. Rival clubs all over it, trying to improve multiple, lower choices.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
Hearing from whom? His own manager said he didn't have an offer before the medical so was he telling porkies then or is he telling porkies now or are you or your source making poo up? Keeping in mind the damage was done before the medical.
Hearing from 2 different people. 1 pretty close to the club. The other with connections to another club.
Believe what you like but I'm told a verbal offer was discussed BEFORE the missed medical and the late night, which might make some sense as to why the medical was missed.
From listening to Scott Lucas (player manager) on SEN "an offer" is a written offer, discussing figures isn't an offer.
so lets get this right.
your saying that a verbal offer was made, but according to scott luvas an offer is only in writing and anything verbal is not an offer?
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Bombers look like using the Giants' need for draft points to get their academy players, to gain another top 10 pick.
GWS swap pick 8 (1551 points)
for
Essendon's pick 23 (815) & pick 25 (756) = 1571 points
GWS better off with picks 23 & 25 to use on academy players (Jacob Hopper and Matthew Kennedy)
GWS will get No.7 (1644 pts) off Coll for Treloar.
Same deal. Rival clubs all over it, trying to improve multiple, lower choices.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/
A nice way to upgrade our first rounder.
Would GWS prefer pick 12?
Pick 12 (1268) + pick 45 (287) = 1555 pts
Pick 8 = 1551 pts
Alternatively, GWS's pick 7 is worth 1644 pts. So, we would need to offer pick 31 (606 pts) along with pick 12 which is significantly overs (1874 pts in total). I'd guess we could make this part of the Townsend trade to even it up.
Pick 7 + Townsend ----> Rich
Pick 12 + 31 -----> GWS
The draft pick points values are listed here: http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/biddingsystemfeedback.pdf
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
Hearing from whom? His own manager said he didn't have an offer before the medical so was he telling porkies then or is he telling porkies now or are you or your source making poo up? Keeping in mind the damage was done before the medical.
Hearing from 2 different people. 1 pretty close to the club. The other with connections to another club.
Believe what you like but I'm told a verbal offer was discussed BEFORE the missed medical and the late night, which might make some sense as to why the medical was missed.
From listening to Scott Lucas (player manager) on SEN "an offer" is a written offer, discussing figures isn't an offer.
so lets get this right.
your saying that a verbal offer was made, but according to scott luvas an offer is only in writing and anything verbal is not an offer?
and on top of that his own manager was a liar when he said there was no offer therefore they couldn't of been upset about the non existant offer. He actually tried to use this as an excuse why his turd player didn't bother turning up for the appointment rather than the fact he was out getting smashed all night. This is all bs it just suits your bs inferiority complex about our club. Bennell is a turd, pure and simple, why the stuff would any club get rid of a player with his skills unless he was a real first class turd? We saved some picks and half his luck at Freo, my bet is he will be turfed out or locked up in no time.
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Jed Anderson to North!!
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dam it
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Hawthorn has traded Jed Anderson and draft picks no. 38 & 40 to North Melbourne in exchange for picks no. 15 and 54. #TradePeriod
https://twitter.com/AFL
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smart club hawks they really are. Box seat for carlisle now or have 2 first round picks while we have 1.
Thats what happens when you are not prepared to trade out some value e.g conca, ellis, griffiths, vickery.
Astbury for yarran is barely a win
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very smart
poos me to tears
wanker Armadale support base :thumbsdown
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Yes, the Hawks are the masters of FA/Trade & Draft period, they are brilliant at recruitment for success and sustainability.
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for one simple reason WAT, they are prepared to trade out and use high picks on players.
its been the cornerstone of their success. Gibson, Gunston, Lake, Mcevoy, Burgoyne. Even as far back as Hay and Thompson from memory delivered them very good picks when both were on the decline.
We identify players like Conca who are worth a first round, yet we wont pull the trigger. I know who i would prefer out of conca or potentially a carlisle.
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for one simple reason WAT, they are prepared to trade out and use high picks on players.
its been the cornerstone of their success. Gibson, Gunston, Lake, Mcevoy, Burgoyne. Even as far back as Hay and Thompson from memory delivered them very good picks when both were on the decline.
We identify players like Conca who are worth a first round, yet we wont pull the trigger. I know who i would prefer out of conca or potentially a carlisle.
Yeah I think we should have looked at Griff, B Ellis, Conca and Batchelor as trade bait, who knows, we have done so with no takers.
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for one simple reason WAT, they are prepared to trade out and use high picks on players.
its been the cornerstone of their success. Gibson, Gunston, Lake, Mcevoy, Burgoyne. Even as far back as Hay and Thompson from memory delivered them very good picks when both were on the decline.
We identify players like Conca who are worth a first round, yet we wont pull the trigger. I know who i would prefer out of conca or potentially a carlisle.
and the trade in 20 year old, pick 2
oroukre
:facepalm
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for one simple reason WAT, they are prepared to trade out and use high picks on players.
its been the cornerstone of their success. Gibson, Gunston, Lake, Mcevoy, Burgoyne. Even as far back as Hay and Thompson from memory delivered them very good picks when both were on the decline.
you seem to be talking about tradin in and out players in the one breath here?
As I previously have mentioned, I had a quick look at Hawthorne team and how they built it.
1 they used their early picks wisely when they were in the bottom half of the ladder.
The bugoyne trade is about the only one they gave up an early pick for.
2 they happily trade what people would call their second round picks. They actually have very few players in their team that came from their own second round selections.
As for trading out, well Surely a team that just won their 3rd premiership in a row is going to have many more expendable players that are worth something than a team struggling to climb the ladder?
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GWS forward Cam McCarthy pleads for trade to Fremantle.
It was likely that "some" of the four contracted Giants linked to Carlton – Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Lachie Plowman – would find their way to Ikon Park.
The return for trading midfield star Adam Treloar to Collingwood or "other clubs" needed to be significant because he was a "special player", and the Giants wouldn't be rushed into sealing the deal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-16/gws-forward-mccarthy-pleads-for-trade-to-fremantle
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North Melbourne is making a late pitch for James Aish. The Kangas want Aish to consider Arden St and would use Ryan Bastinac in a trade. - Sam Landsberger
Hawthorn coach Alistair Clarkson has said he expects Jake Carlisle to get to St.Kilda. - Julian De Stoop, Fox Sports
Mitch Cleary has told Trade Radio that Essendon ruckman Jon Giles has met with the Eagles in recent days in Perth, and could be set to join them in coming days.
"Adam Treloar deal will be done before weekend. 10% today, 90% tomorrow. Then focus shifts to Aish deal and Howe. All will happen - Brett Anderson on Twitter.
Gold Coast are demanding 2 First Round Picks from Port Adelaide for Charlie Dixon. - Warren Tredrea
Hawthorn's unrestricted free agent Brendan Whitecross has met with both GWS and the Brisbane Lions.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Can't believe we aren't going after Giles given how cheap he will be.
Will be 28 in Jan.
201/101.
Has experience, can kick goals when played forward, perfect backup or even a first choice ruck given our current stocks...
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Spud Giles no thanks would rather bring back Angus
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Just rookie Darcy Cameron....
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Spud Giles no thanks would rather bring back Angus
Why is he a spud?
Played basically all of his football for GWS.
54 games, 39 goals, av 22 hitouts.
This is a bloke playing for a side that was getting creamed every week too...
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Spud Giles no thanks would rather bring back Angus
Why is he a spud?
Played basically all of his football for GWS.
54 games, 39 goals, av 22 hitouts.
This is a bloke playing for a side that was getting creamed every week too...
Couldn't care about his stats, just watching him play tells me heaps
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Can't believe we aren't going after Giles given how cheap he will be.
Will be 28 in Jan.
201/101.
Has experience, can kick goals when played forward, perfect backup or even a first choice ruck given our current stocks...
Would be happy to get him
And he'd come cheap.
Better than Hampson
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Can't believe we aren't going after Giles given how cheap he will be.
Will be 28 in Jan.
201/101.
Has experience, can kick goals when played forward, perfect backup or even a first choice ruck given our current stocks...
Would be happy to get him
And he'd come cheap.
Better than Hampson
Jordie M would be better in the ruck than Hampson
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St.Kilda have offered Essendon pick five in return for Carlisle, 23 and 25, according to Mark Robinson.
Via
https://www.facebook.com/AflOffSeasonInformationSeasonNews?fref=nf
Update: Which was apparently rejected. Hawkes now likely to get Carlisle.
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The Carlisle camp says it's @stkildafc of bust, @HawthornFC simply NOT an option.
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7
Essendon has rejected St Kilda's latest offer for Jake Carlisle.
Ess nowhere near reaching agreement with StK on Carlisle ...
Ess officials shaking heads in disbelief ... Long way to go ...
https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL
Collingwood and the Giants have still yet to finalise a deal for Adam Treloar, who recently nominated his preferred destination as the Magpies.
The Pies are prepared to give up their first-round selection this season (pick 7) and possibly a first-round selection next year in exchange for the star midfielder.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-trades-2015-day-five-wrap-of-exchanges-gws-giants-busy-richmond-no-adam-treloar-deal/story-e6frf3e3-1227570690378
Adelaide and Collingwood have settled on a a second-round draft pick for Paul Seedsman. But they are still haggling on which second-rounder. The Crows are offering their No. 32 pick so that they keep three picks inside the top-30 for next month’s national draft in Adelaide. The Magpies want the No. 28 pick handed to Adelaide in Monday’s Patrick Dangerfield trade with Geelong. - Adelaide Advertiser
It is understood James Aish attended the Holden Centre today to take a medical examination after negotiations between Collingwood and Brisbane opened on Thursday. - AFL Website
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Collingwood and Melbourne are locked in negotiations over what could become a multi-club deal for Jeremy Howe to move to Collingwood, Jimmy Toumpas to move to Port Adelaide, Paul Seedsman to Adelaide and Ben Kennedy to the Demons.
A complicated exchange of second and third round draft picks is also involved in the mega deal.
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The Magpies entered negotiations with the Lions and Carlton over a three way trade today, which would see Tom Bell move to the Lions, James Aish to the Magpies and Collingwood trading the Blues a second round pick.
- Emma Quayle, The Age
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Dan Richardson just on Trade Radio
Spoke about Bennell - may change a few people's view on how our club handled it
For anyone who don't think we didn't go hard after him is kidding
Said:
* RFC flew Bennell over from Perth for the meetings
* His actions and those of his management showed disrespect to the Club's process, extremely disappointed
* wouldn't confirm or deny the missing the medical thing
* said the club wouldn't disrespect the kid and give out details as to why we passed on him as he is a Freo player
Once the summary is up on the AFL site we will post it
I'm hearing the verbal offer we made was what caused the lack of respect from the Bennell camp. Everyone knows the kid has been in some trouble but I think Dan the man outsmarted himself with this one. Now he is trying to save face by going on radio and giving nothing and implying it was all the Bennell camps fault.
Anyway it's done now but let's not all think the RFC doesn't make mistakes....
Hearing from whom? His own manager said he didn't have an offer before the medical so was he telling porkies then or is he telling porkies now or are you or your source making poo up? Keeping in mind the damage was done before the medical.
Hearing from 2 different people. 1 pretty close to the club. The other with connections to another club.
Believe what you like but I'm told a verbal offer was discussed BEFORE the missed medical and the late night, which might make some sense as to why the medical was missed.
From listening to Scott Lucas (player manager) on SEN "an offer" is a written offer, discussing figures isn't an offer.
so lets get this right.
your saying that a verbal offer was made, but according to scott luvas an offer is only in writing and anything verbal is not an offer?
and on top of that his own manager was a liar when he said there was no offer therefore they couldn't of been upset about the non existant offer. He actually tried to use this as an excuse why his turd player didn't bother turning up for the appointment rather than the fact he was out getting sissyaced all night. This is all bs it just suits your bs inferiority complex about our club. Bennell is a turd, pure and simple, why the stuff would any club get rid of a player with his skills unless he was a real first class turd? We saved some picks and half his luck at Freo, my bet is he will be turfed out or locked up in no time.
The wise OLD owl knows all.
He thinks lying doesn't excists in AFL footy and among managers at trade time.
It was reported the other day we had made an offer Carlisle but Dan the man denied it cold and the Essendon guy said we had, but today Dan said they had had talks with his manager. Maybe there wasn't a contract ready to sign the other day but an offer would have been spoken about.
And just on your opinion on Bennell, who really cares.
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:lol
and on top of that his own manager was a liar
The wise OLD owl knows all.
He thinks lying doesn't excists in AFL footy and among managers at trade time.
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St.Kilda have offered Essendon pick five in return for Carlisle, 23 and 25, according to Mark Robinson.
Via
https://www.facebook.com/AflOffSeasonInformationSeasonNews?fref=nf
Update: Which was apparently rejected. Hawkes now likely to get Carlisle.
Lol tell them they're dreaming , they wish :lol
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The plot thickens...
GREATER Western Sydney has sought answers from Adam Treloar’s management about an operation the Giants young gun underwent without the club’s knowledge.
GWS learnt about a week ago that Treloar had secret post-season surgery in Tasmania on his injured groin.
The club did not authorise the procedure, despite Treloar — who wants to be traded to Collingwood — still being under contract.
Giants medical officials were tipped off about the operation and informed AFL medical chiefs. They also immediately sought an explanation from Treloar’s manager, Peter Blucher.
Blucher is believed to have assured the club that the procedure was arranged independently of Collingwood or any other club.
Blucher told the Herald Sun on Friday night: “I’m not saying anything about anything until everything is done. I’m not saying a word about anything.
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=HSWEB_MRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-adam-treloars-secret-surgery-angers-giants/story-fnp04d70-1227572137829&memtype=anonymous
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stuffin dogs
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Collingwood and Melbourne are locked in negotiations over what could become a multi-club deal for Jeremy Howe to move to Collingwood, Jimmy Toumpas to move to Port Adelaide, Paul Seedsman to Adelaide and Ben Kennedy to the Demons.
A complicated exchange of second and third round draft picks is also involved in the mega deal.
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The Magpies entered negotiations with the Lions and Carlton over a three way trade today, which would see Tom Bell move to the Lions, James Aish to the Magpies and Collingwood trading the Blues a second round pick.
- Emma Quayle, The Age
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Surely not....
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Collingwood and Melbourne are locked in negotiations over what could become a multi-club deal for Jeremy Howe to move to Collingwood, Jimmy Toumpas to move to Port Adelaide, Paul Seedsman to Adelaide and Ben Kennedy to the Demons.
A complicated exchange of second and third round draft picks is also involved in the mega deal.
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The Magpies entered negotiations with the Lions and Carlton over a three way trade today, which would see Tom Bell move to the Lions, James Aish to the Magpies and Collingwood trading the Blues a second round pick.
- Emma Quayle, The Age
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Surely not....
If Collingwood get Aish for a second round pick, heads need to roll. Im talking at the AFL, Collingwood someone! That would be an absolute disgrace. A first round pick who has shown every bit his value to be traded for a second round selection??!!
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something stinks at collingwood, as usual
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Several things stink at Collingwood.....
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Mark Robinson on twitter:
"This Treloar story and secret operation stinks to high heaven. The AFL must investigate ASAP before any deal is done. How can they not?
So treloar visits Pies as a contracted Giant, and after talks has a secret op and Giants not told. Please,
Not [GWS CEO] David [Matthews]. He's trying to get best deal for his club. Perhaps the question should be directed at Magpies.
And Treloar's manager Peter Blucher doesn't tell the Giants their contracted player has had an operation. Guessing, but bet u the Pies knew.
The AFL bangs on about integrity every second day. These deserves AFL attention..."
https://twitter.com/Robbo_heraldsun
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The plot thickens...
GREATER Western Sydney has sought answers from Adam Treloar’s management about an operation the Giants young gun underwent without the club’s knowledge.
GWS learnt about a week ago that Treloar had secret post-season surgery in Tasmania on his injured groin.
The club did not authorise the procedure, despite Treloar — who wants to be traded to Collingwood — still being under contract.
Giants medical officials were tipped off about the operation and informed AFL medical chiefs. They also immediately sought an explanation from Treloar’s manager, Peter Blucher.
Blucher is believed to have assured the club that the procedure was arranged independently of Collingwood or any other club.
Blucher told the Herald Sun on Friday night: “I’m not saying anything about anything until everything is done. I’m not saying a word about anything.
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=HSWEB_MRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-adam-treloars-secret-surgery-angers-giants/story-fnp04d70-1227572137829&memtype=anonymous
We know Benny Gale and co. believed this Collingwood-Treloar deal was dodgy from the start.
You've got to laugh at the Pies denying any knowledge yet Treloar's manager refuses to confirm nor deny when asked about if Collingwood knew :whistle.
Of course, Blucher was Tippett's manager during that salary-cap rorting and draft-tampering affair.
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The AFL Players' Association (AFLPA) has handed down a 12-month ban for Peter Blucher, who was the player agent involved in Kurt Tippett's contract with the Adelaide Crows in 2009.
"The board has found that Peter Blucher was in breach of his obligation to act in the legitimate best interests of his client Kurt Tippett, was in breach of his obligation to act in a professional manner and to exercise due care and skill at all times," Prendergast added.
"He engaged in contact that was materially detrimental to his client Kurt Tippett and made false declarations whilst acting in his capacity as an accredited agent."
Blucher's accreditation will be revoked immediately and he won't be entitled to re-apply for 12 months or to represent AFL players in relation to their employment with the AFL or AFL clubs during that period.
Tippett has been banned for 11 matches with his new club Sydney for his role in the salary-cap rorting and draft-tampering affair.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/kurt-tippetts-manager-peter-blucher-suspended-for-a-year-over-salary-cap-rorting-scandal/story-e6frf3e3-1226561117328
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The plot thickens...
GREATER Western Sydney has sought answers from Adam Treloar’s management about an operation the Giants young gun underwent without the club’s knowledge.
GWS learnt about a week ago that Treloar had secret post-season surgery in Tasmania on his injured groin.
The club did not authorise the procedure, despite Treloar — who wants to be traded to Collingwood — still being under contract.
Giants medical officials were tipped off about the operation and informed AFL medical chiefs. They also immediately sought an explanation from Treloar’s manager, Peter Blucher.
Blucher is believed to have assured the club that the procedure was arranged independently of Collingwood or any other club.
Blucher told the Herald Sun on Friday night: “I’m not saying anything about anything until everything is done. I’m not saying a word about anything.
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=HSWEB_MRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-adam-treloars-secret-surgery-angers-giants/story-fnp04d70-1227572137829&memtype=anonymous
We know Benny Gale and co. believed this Collingwood-Treloar deal was dodgy from the start.
You've got to laugh at the Pies denying any knowledge yet Treloar's manager refuses to confirm nor deny when asked about if Collingwood knew :whistle.
Of course, Blucher was Tippett's manager during that salary-cap rorting and draft-tampering affair.
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The AFL Players' Association (AFLPA) has handed down a 12-month ban for Peter Blucher, who was the player agent involved in Kurt Tippett's contract with the Adelaide Crows in 2009.
"The board has found that Peter Blucher was in breach of his obligation to act in the legitimate best interests of his client Kurt Tippett, was in breach of his obligation to act in a professional manner and to exercise due care and skill at all times," Prendergast added.
"He engaged in contact that was materially detrimental to his client Kurt Tippett and made false declarations whilst acting in his capacity as an accredited agent."
Blucher's accreditation will be revoked immediately and he won't be entitled to re-apply for 12 months or to represent AFL players in relation to their employment with the AFL or AFL clubs during that period.
Tippett has been banned for 11 matches with his new club Sydney for his role in the salary-cap rorting and draft-tampering affair.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/kurt-tippetts-manager-peter-blucher-suspended-for-a-year-over-salary-cap-rorting-scandal/story-e6frf3e3-1226561117328
Gale and co are right to believe Treloar to Collingwood is dodgy considering Gabby Allan is tipped to be joining the Pies at the end of the year early next year.....Stinks ;)
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Blucher is that sonofa biatch....makes sense now. Must be pushing that barrow for a reason, always back self interest at least you know it is trying right?
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The Treloar to Collingwood trade may be stopped :shh :shh
Surely time to pounce??!!
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Imagine if we got Treloar now😵😵😵😵
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Won't Happen WAT, that saying nice guys finish last... that applies to us :shh
We probably know something but are to PC to say anything meanwhile that fat stuffin porka neck and Co are getting away with alleged dodgy deals... He would be the first to start squealing!
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As far as I can tell, Slobbo & the HUN seem to be the only ones running with the story so far.....curious...
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Nothing beats a potential football scandal(when non Richmond of course)
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As far as I can tell, Slobbo & the HUN seem to be the only ones running with the story so far.....curious...
Yep nothing about of in today's Age
Or more interestingly the AFL Website
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As far as I can tell, Slobbo & the HUN seem to be the only ones running with the story so far.....curious...
Yep nothing about of in today's Age
Or more interestingly the AFL Website
Here we go:
Another Treloar twist
The proposed deal to get Greater Western Sydney's Adam Treloar to Collingwood inches closer, but might have hit another snag.
The Herald Sun is reporting the young Giant had secret post-season surgery in Tasmania on his injured groin.
The Giants are now seeking clarification from Treloar and his manager Peter Blucher, who said: "I’m not saying anything about anything until everything is done. I’m not saying a word about anything."
Collingwood assured the Giants it had no involvement in the operation.
The Pies have reportedly added a late-round draft pick in addition to pick No.7 in this year’s draft and their first-round selection next year to get the deal done.
Young Giant Jeremy Finlayson - an academy product - has also been linked to the deal
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-17/trade-winds-another-treloar-twist-as-pies-close-in-on-trio
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No doubt the afl integrity unit is all over it
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No doubt the afl integrity unit is all over it
But the newly resourced cover up unit will triumph in the end!
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:lol
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Wait, why is an academy player also linked? I'm over that we missed out on Treloar, he didn't want to come here, poo happens, but this whole trade absolutely stinks right now and I hope the AFL get to the bottom of it.
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I know I'm just dreaming and its all entirely hypothetical....
....but I'd be definitely re-opening the project Treloar file.
Get on the phone to GWS right now, remind them that our deal is still on the table. I wouldn't be going through Treloars management just yet (looks like the tosser has put his client in a very sticky situation). We could even trade our first pick and the Astbury pick onto GWS, use our first rounder for next year on Yarran if GWS want two early picks this year and maybe up the Treloar offer by 50k or so. I think GWS very much would prefer to do a deal with us. We've been easy to deal with previously, quick and accommodating, as opposed to Collingwood.
There must be a reason beyond what we know as to why we've gone cold on him, but we would have the best midfield in the comp with this guy. 4 genuine A graders running through, can't be beaten.
There's still 10 laps to go in this race, and there's inclement weather approaching. Make the early switch to the medium wet tyre and hope for rain....
I know, I know, the stuff of pipe-dreams and fair tales. Can't a bloke dream?
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No doubt the afl integrity unit is all over it
But the newly resourced cover up unit will triumph in the end!
Ain't that the truth!
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No doubt the afl integrity unit is all over it
But the newly resourced cover up unit will triumph in the end!
Precisely :clapping
We won't win a flag again, too stuffin honest
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picks 20-50 go at about 30% chance of getting a 100 game player.
1-10 was 60 % and from memory 10-20 wasnt too far behind.
12 is too good of a pick to lose to get yarran
But but but Hird was pick 70 or something
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there you go then. that stuffs up everything. first round picks are now officially worthless........
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there you go then. that stuffs up everything. first round picks are now officially worthless........
:lol
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96 pages of BS :rollin
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PORT Adelaide is in a four-club negotiation over a mega deal that would not only deliver Demon Jimmy Toumpas to Alberton but also arm the club ahead of further negotiations for the Gold Coast’s Charlie Dixon.
Discussions are continuing over a complex deal which is set to deliver Toumpas to Port, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe from Melbourne to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman from Collingwood to Adelaide.
The Crows are understood to have offered pick 32 for Seedsman, and that pick is a key to the negotiations. It is likely to be passed on to Port, which would give up two draft picks for Toumpas and No. 32 and then be in a position to continue its haggling with the Suns over Dixon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-four-club-trade-could-help-power-snare-jimmy-toumpas-charlie-dixon/story-fnp04d70-1227572793141
BRISBANE midfielder James Aish remains “100 per cent” committed to joining Collingwood, despite a lucrative late bid by North Melbourne.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-james-aish-wants-to-play-for-collingwood-only-says-liam-pickering/story-fnj3twbb-1227572585964
West Coast are adamant that Matt Rosa will be playing for the Eagles in 2016 despite interest from the Gold Coast Suns.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-17/rosa-not-on-trade-table
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ADAM Treloar will be traded from Greater Western Sydney to Collingwood on Monday amid a backdrop of tension and mistrust between the two clubs.
Saturday’s Herald Sun revealed Treloar, 22, underwent an operation on his injured groin in Tasmania several weeks ago without the knowledge of the Giants.
Collingwood has insisted it played no part in arranging the procedure.
But it emerged on Saturday a diagnosis by Magpies doctors during Treloar’s medical examination with the club prompted his decision to go under the knife.
Adam Treloar celebrates a Giants goal. Picture: Adam Head
Collingwood medical staff concluded that groin soreness that had hampered his 2015 season was the result of a hip issue – not osteitis pubis.
GWS sought a please explain from Treloar’s manager Peter Blucher and remains angry it was not consulted about surgery on a player still under contract.
But the Giants are still prepared to trade him to Collingwood in the belief the deal, which will net two first-round picks and a later pick, is better than what Geelong offered for Patrick Dangerfield.
The AFL said it did not believe any rules had been broken and would not be investigating.
The AFL Players’ Association, which monitors the conduct of player agents, has been briefed on the situation and said it was satisfied Blucher and Treloar had acted appropriately.
Blucher told the player union Treloar opted to have surgery before being traded to ensure his pre-season training was not be interrupted by a six-to-eight week recovery period.
GWS has been told it was Blucher – not Collingwood – that consulted with the surgeon and paid for the costs of the procedure.
Treloar’s supporters are also adamant the talented midfielder was pushed out by the Giants because it could not fit him into next year’s salary cap.
They say the last serious contract offer from the Giants to Treloar was tabled in April.
“He wanted to stay, but they pushed him out,” one insider said.
GWS has strongly refuted suggestions Treloar’s groin injury was misdiagnosed or that an exit medical examination by the club was not conducted at the end of the season.
Suggestions Richmond was misled several weeks ago into believing it had won the race for Treloar’s signature ahead of the Magpies have also been rejected.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-adam-treloar-will-be-traded-to-collingwood-despite-surgery-surprise/story-fnj3twbb-1227572762337
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Collingwood and Melbourne are locked in negotiations over what could become a multi-club deal for Jeremy Howe to move to Collingwood, Jimmy Toumpas to move to Port Adelaide, Paul Seedsman to Adelaide and Ben Kennedy to the Demons.
A complicated exchange of second and third round draft picks is also involved in the mega deal.
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The Magpies entered negotiations with the Lions and Carlton over a three way trade today, which would see Tom Bell move to the Lions, James Aish to the Magpies and Collingwood trading the Blues a second round pick.
- Emma Quayle, The Age
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Surely not....
If Collingwood get Aish for a second round pick, heads need to roll. Im talking at the AFL, Collingwood someone! That would be an absolute disgrace. A first round pick who has shown every bit his value to be traded for a second round selection??!!
I think he has a great relationship with bux just like treloar, Howe., Adams , greenwood :thumbsdown
To think that his off for a mid 20's pick is incredible really yet we are throwing a mid teen pick towards the blues for one of the softest players in yarran
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Collingwood and Melbourne are locked in negotiations over what could become a multi-club deal for Jeremy Howe to move to Collingwood, Jimmy Toumpas to move to Port Adelaide, Paul Seedsman to Adelaide and Ben Kennedy to the Demons.
A complicated exchange of second and third round draft picks is also involved in the mega deal.
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The Magpies entered negotiations with the Lions and Carlton over a three way trade today, which would see Tom Bell move to the Lions, James Aish to the Magpies and Collingwood trading the Blues a second round pick.
- Emma Quayle, The Age
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Surely not....
If Collingwood get Aish for a second round pick, heads need to roll. Im talking at the AFL, Collingwood someone! That would be an absolute disgrace. A first round pick who has shown every bit his value to be traded for a second round selection??!!
I think he has a great relationship with bux just like treloar, Howe., Adams , greenwood :thumbsdown
To think that his off for a mid 20's pick is incredible really yet we are throwing a mid teen pick towards the blues for one of the softest players in yarran
yep makes me sick
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so its official, we are giving up an early pick that we dont have for yarran?
pretty shrewd negotiating if carlton fall for that.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
I think there were a number of us who would have seen Lennon walk into the PSD and we got nothing if it let people know that you can't just start asking for half a mill of the back of a few reasonable games. I think the reality was nothing like that at all, but the Brisbane situation as Tony said is a disaster. Is that 3 or 4 of their FRDP's that have wanted to leave.
Like I said before, the current system is weighted far too heavily in favour of players at the moment. You can't just decide where you want to play until you've put in at least 7 years of solid performance, or a trade can be facilitated early. For Aish to get traded for a second round pick is so disgustingly unfair and innappropriate and I really feel for Brisbane here. Even when they were at the height of their power, players were still asking to leave. Make a statement, don't let him force their hand. If he wants to play hard ball, go into the PSD and have fun playing for Carlscum, otherwise, man up, put your head down and get on with it!
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
Well if Aish's options are go into the pre season draft and end up at Carlton or agree to another club that is willing to give a first pick, or stay at Brisbane, I'm sure he would think about it long and hard.
You also didn't answer my question, if Brisbane stand firm this year, what happens if they are in the same situation next year and the year after?? It's ok to try and prove a point but if it in tern hurts the club long term then it's a stupid point to make. I'm sure if you ask Brisbane's sponsors and supporters they would most definitely say the same.
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allowing a player to walk to PSD wont correct the cause of the problems the Lions face. Player welfare is at the nub of it , and ironically this knee jerk reaction will only further underline just how detached the club is from its players. all that said, they will trade, I don't believe they're that stupid not too
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
Well if Aish's options are go into the pre season draft and end up at Carlton or agree to another club that is willing to give a first pick, or stay at Brisbane, I'm sure he would think about it long and hard.
You also didn't answer my question, if Brisbane stand firm this year, what happens if they are in the same situation next year and the year after?? It's ok to try and prove a point but if it in tern hurts the club long term then it's a stupid point to make. I'm sure if you ask Brisbane's sponsors and supporters they would most definitely say the same.
I answered your question. My point is if they make a stand and force Aish into the psd bc he refuses to go anywhere else bar the pies for a second rounder, then maybe just maybe next year and the year after their first round draft picks will think twice before trying to hold them to ransom like they have been the past 2 years. That's the whole point of making a stand now - it's gotten out of hand
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allowing a player to walk to PSD wont correct the cause of the problems the Lions face. Player welfare is at the nub of it , and ironically this knee jerk reaction will only further underline just how detached the club is from its players. all that said, they will trade, I don't believe they're that stupid not too
They have been accomodating with Polec, Billy Longer, Yeo, Docherty getting way unders for all of them, where has that gotten them? All it's done is show the rest that if you want out to a particular club, then it's pretty easy to get there.
Now they are faced with getting a 2nd rounder in the weakest draft in years for a top 5 pick? better off getting nothing anyway and sending a msg to the rest of the playing list, that they won't just bend over anymore.
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The issue with Aish is if he is so homesick as we've been told all year and he wants to leave Brisbane then why does he now want to be traded to Collingwood ::) rather than Adelaide or Port in his home state. The Crows would now have as good if not better picks to offer Brisbane after the Dangerfield trade.
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This issue with Aish is if he is so homesick as we've been told all year and he wants to leave Brisbane then why does he now want to be traded to Collingwood ::) rather than Adelaide or Port in home state. The Crows would now have as good if not better picks to offer Brisbane after the Dangerfield trade.
Great point MT! :clapping
There's something fishy about his 'home sickness' suddenly getting much better ... :huh
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I think what they're home sick for is more folding stuff
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Tail wags dog.
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Thought I would mark it out for ya's
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allowing a player to walk to PSD wont correct the cause of the problems the Lions face. Player welfare is at the nub of it , and ironically this knee jerk reaction will only further underline just how detached the club is from its players. all that said, they will trade, I don't believe they're that stupid not too
They have been accomodating with Polec, Billy Longer, Yeo, Docherty getting way unders for all of them, where has that gotten them? All it's done is show the rest that if you want out to a particular club, then it's pretty easy to get there.
Now they are faced with getting a 2nd rounder in the weakest draft in years for a top 5 pick? better off getting nothing anyway and sending a msg to the rest of the playing list, that they won't just bend over anymore.
here here and screw up the pies in the mean time. A small win for them.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
Well if Aish's options are go into the pre season draft and end up at Carlton or agree to another club that is willing to give a first pick, or stay at Brisbane, I'm sure he would think about it long and hard.
You also didn't answer my question, if Brisbane stand firm this year, what happens if they are in the same situation next year and the year after?? It's ok to try and prove a point but if it in tern hurts the club long term then it's a stupid point to make. I'm sure if you ask Brisbane's sponsors and supporters they would most definitely say the same.
I answered your question. My point is if they make a stand and force Aish into the psd bc he refuses to go anywhere else bar the pies for a second rounder, then maybe just maybe next year and the year after their first round draft picks will think twice before trying to hold them to ransom like they have been the past 2 years. That's the whole point of making a stand now - it's gotten out of hand
You haven't answered my question, well not that I can see.... What if Brisbane make a stand and Aish walks to Carlton for nothing. And someone else wants out next year, do they just lose another player with nothing in return? And the year after that? Where does it stop? It's all very well trying to make a stand but if it's at the detriment of the entire club then someone has to take a big bite of humble pie. I wonder how you would feel if our club was taking a stand and just letting players walk out the door each year for nothing. Maybe you wouldn't be so flippant..
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
Well if Aish's options are go into the pre season draft and end up at Carlton or agree to another club that is willing to give a first pick, or stay at Brisbane, I'm sure he would think about it long and hard.
You also didn't answer my question, if Brisbane stand firm this year, what happens if they are in the same situation next year and the year after?? It's ok to try and prove a point but if it in tern hurts the club long term then it's a stupid point to make. I'm sure if you ask Brisbane's sponsors and supporters they would most definitely say the same.
I answered your question. My point is if they make a stand and force Aish into the psd bc he refuses to go anywhere else bar the pies for a second rounder, then maybe just maybe next year and the year after their first round draft picks will think twice before trying to hold them to ransom like they have been the past 2 years. That's the whole point of making a stand now - it's gotten out of hand
You haven't answered my question, well not that I can see.... What if Brisbane make a stand and Aish walks to Carlton for nothing. And someone else wants out next year, do they just lose another player with nothing in return? And the year after that? Where does it stop? It's all very well trying to make a stand but if it's at the detriment of the entire club then someone has to take a big bite of humble pie. I wonder how you would feel if our club was taking a stand and just letting players walk out the door each year for nothing. Maybe you wouldn't be so flippant..
They have been eating humble pie for 3 years now and guess what? Top end draftees are still wanting out and forcing Bris to take gross unders bc they only want to deal with one club. So how's that theory working out? Where does it stop?
I'm not being flippant, I've just recognised that there is one club that has tried to be accomodating the past several years and players and destination clubs have taken advantage of this screwing Brisbane and giving them little in return. They need to make a stand - tell Aish we'll trade you to your first preference ONLY if we are adequately compensated, (a 2nd round pick is a joke) if that club doesn't come to the party we'll happily trade you to club B or C bc they are offering us a better deal, if you refuse point blank to entertain it, then on yer bike and enjoy Carlton. Bang, message sent to future players wanting out - we will try and help you get elsewhere but we also need to look after our needs and wants.
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I really sympathise with Brisbane here. Make a statement, force the kid into the preseason draft. Its harsh but you cant have your first round picks just deciding where they want to go after 2 seasons. The current system favours players far to heavily in my opinion. Clubs need some more balance.
Agree
So you guys would be happy let Lennon or C Ellis walk to the pre season draft and get nothing them if they he decided they didn't didn't want to play for the Tigers anymore, just to make a statement?? As much as that would be a statement, the only real loser in that is us. If someone decides his future is somewhere else we need to broker the best deal for us.
I think the biggest statement a club can make is creating an environment that players want to stay. Every club is going to lose some players over the time especially now with FA but all clubs will get players back the other way. You just have to try and make the RFC a great place to be and that starts with winning games, winning finals and winning grand finals. Paying them well just isn't going to be enough as players want success.
Brisbane should and will IMO trade Aish and get the best deal they can for him whether that is to Collingwood or any other club. As for my thoughts on him, I haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me want us to chase him.
It seems people would be happy to give our pick 12 for Aish but not for Yarran who has shown he can be an A grade player and has runs on the board. Forget 2015, Yarran and Mick didn't see eye to eye and by the time Johnny Barker was on board, Yarran's head was out the door. Like it or not that's how some guys are. He is a genuine talent and I'm pumped he will be in a Tigers jumper in 2016. Hopefully as a small forward as IMO the is by far our biggest need.
I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
You miss the point, if it happened to us it would be a once off (or rare) situation as it is with most clubs, so of course you would broker a deal.... the Brisbane situation is diabolical where an extraordinary number of their top end talent are walking and getting to their club of choice for next to nothing. 2nd rounder for Aish is a joke, I agree with lethal and Dougy on this one, they need to make a statement to let the rest of their young guys know, WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM any longer.
And No way I think Yarran is worth pick 12 but I'd give it up for Aish
At the end of the day Tone Brisbane don't have to take a second round pick off Collingwood. They can trade him to anyone and get a first round pick.
Brisbane got 2 very good player this time last year so they can't be to hypocritical and it locks like they will get a couple more this year.
They need to make the place a good club to be at first and foremost but players are always going to want to go home to their home state or simply want to go where they want.
No point cutting off their nose despite their face. And if they do where does it stop? This year, next year? Do they keep giving away players just to make a point? The club will be no longer in a really short time.
They need to turn a negative into a positive.
That's the problem, they can't trade him to anyone if the player says I only want to go to one club.
Well if Aish's options are go into the pre season draft and end up at Carlton or agree to another club that is willing to give a first pick, or stay at Brisbane, I'm sure he would think about it long and hard.
You also didn't answer my question, if Brisbane stand firm this year, what happens if they are in the same situation next year and the year after?? It's ok to try and prove a point but if it in tern hurts the club long term then it's a stupid point to make. I'm sure if you ask Brisbane's sponsors and supporters they would most definitely say the same.
I answered your question. My point is if they make a stand and force Aish into the psd bc he refuses to go anywhere else bar the pies for a second rounder, then maybe just maybe next year and the year after their first round draft picks will think twice before trying to hold them to ransom like they have been the past 2 years. That's the whole point of making a stand now - it's gotten out of hand
You haven't answered my question, well not that I can see.... What if Brisbane make a stand and Aish walks to Carlton for nothing. And someone else wants out next year, do they just lose another player with nothing in return? And the year after that? Where does it stop? It's all very well trying to make a stand but if it's at the detriment of the entire club then someone has to take a big bite of humble pie. I wonder how you would feel if our club was taking a stand and just letting players walk out the door each year for nothing. Maybe you wouldn't be so flippant..
They have been eating humble pie for 3 years now and guess what? Top end draftees are still wanting out and forcing Bris to take gross unders bc they only want to deal with one club. So how's that theory working out? Where does it stop?
I'm not being flippant, I've just recognised that there is one club that has tried to be accomodating the past several years and players and destination clubs have taken advantage of this screwing Brisbane and giving them little in return. They need to make a stand - tell Aish we'll trade you to your first preference ONLY if we are adequately compensated, (a 2nd round pick is a joke) if that club doesn't come to the party we'll happily trade you to club B or C bc they are offering us a better deal, if you refuse point blank to entertain it, then on yer bike and enjoy Carlton. Bang, message sent to future players wanting out - we will try and help you get elsewhere but we also need to look after our needs and wants.
I agree with that but giving players away isn't the answer even if it is to prove a point. It's a slippery slope can can end in disaster very quickly.
It's not all one way either, they got an out and out star this time last year in Beams and a solid B grade midfielder and another guy who just won their B&F, so they can't be to upset just at the minute. They also won 3 flags in a row not so long ago so they may just need to work a bit harder on keeping players happy. They cannot be excused entirely for players wanting to leave. Something up there isn't right and it's not the location.
Anyway I hope to God they take our garbage in Astbury as IMO he is just a time waster on our list. He is a battler that is injured more time than any other player on our list. If we could get a pick in the 20's for him would be a steel for us but it would be an even bigger mistake for them to letting Aish go for a second round pick.
Interesting week ahead :cheers
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THE long-awaited deal to get Adam Treloar to Collingwood is expected to happen as soon as Monday morning, kickstarting the second week of the trade period.
Collingwood is expected to give GWS its first pick in this and next year’s draft to win the Giants midfielder.
The Giants told the Herald Sun last night they were confident the Treloar deal would be completed by Tuesday at the latest — despite the curious situation of them being taken by surprise by the midfielder having post-season hip surgery.
Cats forward Josh Walker is set to move on and has visited Brisbane.
Sam Kerridge who returned from holiday at the weekend, is considering a three-year offer from Carlton.
http://www.themercury.com.au/adam-treloar-trade-to-collingwood-likely-to-go-through-early-in-the-week/story-fnj3twbb-1227573332392
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I'd still be offering our pick 12 for Cockatoo from Geelong as they have surplus midfielders and could probably do with an early pick now they have traded all theirs for the next couple of years.
Goodluck with that
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https://twitter.com/IntegrityUnit
:clapping
:snidegrin :snidegrin
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St Kilda and Port Adelaide have discussed a proposal that Jake Carlisle and Charlie Dixon be tied into a trade that would deliver Jake Carlisle to the Saints and the Suns forward to Port.
Port: lose pick 10 & a future first round pick ------> gain Charlie Dixon & St Kilda's late pick(s).
St Kilda: lose pick 5 & late pick(s) ----> gain Jake Carlisle & Port's future first round pick.
Essendon: lose Jake Carlisle -----> gain Port's pick 10.
Gold Coast: lose Charlie Dixon -----> gain St Kilda's pick 5.
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North remains hopeful of yet being able to trade for James Aish, having made an strong financial offer for him to join the Kangaroos. North's offer is understood to be significantly higher than Collingwood's.
Aish has friends at both Collingwood (Matthew Scharenberg) and North (Trent Dumont) and both players have been encouraging their friend to join their respective clubs.
Aish's manager, Liam Pickering, has been firm throughout that his client will only go to Collingwood.
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If North's offer falls over, then one deal forwarded by Collingwood and Carlton would be for Collingwood to trade pick 26 to Carlton who would send Tom Bell to the Lions and Aish would move to Collingwood.
The Lions want an additional draft pick as part of any Aish trade in order to be able to secure Ryan Bastinac from North. Essentially, the Lions want to replace Aish with Bell and Bastinac.
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Nathan Freeman is likely to be traded to St Kilda for a future second-round pick. Collingwood also wants another minor draft pick exchange involved.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period--gold-coasts-charlie-dixon-tied-into-jake-carlisle-trade-talks-20151018-gkc1u6#ixzz3ou74F8tZ
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FREMANTLE is not expected to include a player in its pitch to land young forward Cam McCarthy and must now bank on Greater Western Sydney relenting on its hard-line stance in the final four days of the NAB AFL Trade Period.
The Dockers' offer for McCarthy is pick No.22 and its 2016 first-round selection, and AFL.com.au understands no players have been put on the trade table to get the deal over the line.
It was suggested at the weekend that Fremantle could attempt to trade a player to a third club and then on-trade that pick to the Giants as part of the McCarthy deal, but sources also dismissed that option.
Midfielders Lachie Weller and Michael Barlow were floated as options in this scenario over the weekend, but AFL.com.au understands neither would be traded, with Weller rated particularly highly by the club.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/trade-wrap-dockers-wont-trade-players-to-land-mccarthy
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needles
mccarthy
dixon
:facepalm
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Brisbane's pick 21 is gone. Used on Carlton's Tom Bell.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/brisbanebound-bell-rings-the-changes
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Tom Browne @TomBrowne7 twitter:
#carlisle I understand @EssendonFC latest acceptable deal is - Jake Carlisle + 3rd round in return for pick 5
@GWSGIANTS still insist they won't trade Cam McCarthy. Think @freodockers offered around 22 plus future pick. Giants rejected
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7
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I hope McCarthy stays at GWS, bloody Dockers have enough talent. With pick 21 gone now I am not sure how the Yarran deal will work unless its next year round two pick traded which wouldn't be too bad. So long as pick 12 stays!!
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Brisbane's pick 21 is gone. Used on Carlton's Tom Bell.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/brisbanebound-bell-rings-the-changes
Saints secure pick 21 for Stanley
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-15/bains-explains-stanley-trade
:o
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Brisbane's pick 21 is gone. Used on Carlton's Tom Bell.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/brisbanebound-bell-rings-the-changes
Saints secure pick 21 for Stanley
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-15/bains-explains-stanley-trade
:o
Different years. Pick 21 is worth less this year due to the weaker draft.
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Show time. lets see how ballsy the club
If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.
Average draft says who exactly. Lets wait and see hey.
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bell and stanley are both fairly rubbish
#20 odd is ludicrous regardless of draft strength
id be offering hampson and chaplin for a packet of twisties :pray
we shouldnt give away astbury/elton/griffiths/vickery unless its a very good deal
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Show time. lets see how ballsy the club
If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.
the market fetish seems to be overpaying for talls
Average draft says who exactly. Lets wait and see hey.
people that regularly watch the juniors for years, apparently
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Show time. lets see how ballsy the club
If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.
You're making an huge assumption there Angus and that is there is another club who wants him
Can't trade 'em out if no one wants them
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someone would want concs
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someone would want concs
Not so sure about that myself
But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B
That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
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maybe not a first rounder
but surely someone would pay 20-30 for concs
someone would want concs
Not so sure about that myself
But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B
That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
i like b ellis but the boy is a bit of a squib
if we can get #12 for him you'd jump at that
i am convinced the club is run for a pack of baboons
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someone would want concs
Not so sure about that myself
But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B
That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?
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someone would want concs
Not so sure about that myself
But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B
That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?
if we traded #12 for b ellis ...
and then, as far as i am aware we still have our first rounder pick
you could give those two to gws for trelor ... no amount of insider trading / dodgy afl dealings could stop that getting done ...
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someone would want concs
Not so sure about that myself
But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B
That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?
if we traded #12 for b ellis ...
and then, as far as i am aware we still have our first rounder pick
you could give those two to gws for trelor ... no amount of insider trading / dodgy afl dealings could stop that getting done ...
I think that one is black and white (pardon the pun), of course we'd do it. But I'm less attracted to the idea of trading B Ellis for the sake of trading.
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GEELONG pair Josh Walker and Jarrad Jansen will join the Brisbane Lions for a future third-round draft pick.
Lions list manager Peter Schwab confirmed on Monday morning to NAB AFL Trade Radio the deal would soon be formalised.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/cats-off-to-the-lions-for-future-pick
Steve Johnson is all but certain to be playing with Greater Western Sydney next year, according to Brisbane Lions list manager Peter Schwab.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/stevie-j-set-to-play-on-at-giants
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Schwab: "We've had a lot of discussions but nothing formal (with Collingwood on James Aish).
"We don't want it to come out as 'James Aish for a second round pick', that won't get it done. If it's that he'll go pre-season."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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if we can get #12 for him you'd jump at that
We have pick 12 - that is a our first round pick. ::)
What I am saying is Ellis B, could get us earlier than that.
So if traded for an earlier pick then we can trade pick 12 for Yarran (seeing they are so comitted to getting him) and we are no worse off in the draft, actually we become better off
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?
I think that your comment is open to debate to be honest. I don't think he has surpassed his value, agree about solid development but the question how much further will he develop?
I'll be honest (and everyone on here knows I am not fan of his) I'm not sure how much more he can improve. I think he is one of those players who gets alot of kicks but how much quality is in those possessions? the little dinky short kicks suggest not much at all. When he is on and prepared to attack contests he is good but when he isn't well he isn't so great
I would expect Ellis C, to surpass him very quickly indeed
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B Ellis for Yarran and an upgrade of our first round pick would be worth it. Couldn't see it happening though.
Look at the last 10 years round 15 pick and tell me where Ellis slots in? I'd say he's one of the better ones. Varcoe went 15 from memory, but if you're arguing we could get a better than pick 12 for Ellis then you also think he's surpassed his potential. ;D ;D
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Terry Wallace said on SEN earlier as he was asked by a caller, looks like Tigers put all their hopes into aquire Treloar and Yarran and we're shocked when Treloar chose Pies. He also said with all the work we put into getting Treloar were on the back foot to land another big name player like him.
Also said he'd be really dissapointed if we gave up 12 for Yarran.
Personally I agree with him and if the club comes out of this with Yarran and nothing else to propel us further into the top 8 then they can get lost. 2 players is hardly going to satisfy our list needs.
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The Lions want James Aish to go to North Melbourne, most likely as part of a deal for Ryan Bastinac, but Collingwood at this stage remain Aish's preferred destination.
If Aish is to be traded to Collingwood, Brisbane would rather receive a future second round pick, such as the one the Magpies are expected to receive for Nathan Freeman.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-carlton-trade-tom-bell-to-brisbane-20151019-gkceq4.html
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I would be telling Carlton it's pick 31 or nothing for Yarran. Be prepared to walk away from the trade and take our picks to the table.
They already have 1,20,21 so 31 fits in nicely with those.
Sometimes you cant give what you dont have
If we give up pick 12 for him now then we may as well bend over in front of all other clubs and take it.
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I would be telling Carlton it's pick 31 or nothing for Yarran. Be prepared to walk away from the trade and take our picks to the table.
They already have 1,20,21 so 31 fits in nicely with those.
Sometimes you cant give what you dont have
If we give up pick 12 for him now then we may as well bend over in front of all other clubs and take it.
We're not giving up pick 12 for him. Don't worry.
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but if you're arguing we could get a better than pick 12 for Ellis then you also think he's surpassed his potential. ;D ;D
Nope on the contrary
I don't rate him that highly, just like I don't rate Astbury that highly (hence why a 2nd rounder would have been a steal)
But for reasons that only the AFL industry can explain they (AFL inndustry) rate them highly.... that's why Ellis B could get us a pick in the top 10...
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A THREE-club trade is expected to be finalised this afternoon that will result in Zac Smith joining Geelong and North Melbourne ruckman Daniel Currie heading to Gold Coast.
The clubs are working out the finer details of whether one transaction or two is necessary, but the Suns will ship ruckman Smith to Geelong in exchange for picks 49 and 53.
Gold Coast will then on-trade pick 53 to the Kangaroos in exchange for Currie.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/suns-cats-and-roos-in-threeway-trade-for-big-men-picks
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smith. :banghead
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Just confirmed, Smith to the Cats, 4 big pick ups for the Cats...
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Richmond still asleep at the wheel
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Richmond still asleep at the wheel
They are still looking for the wheel. ;D
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Yep amateur hour at its best, and here I've been defending them like an idiot.
I should be ashamed :'(
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Pick 49 & 53 for Smith.
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Richmond still asleep at the wheel
ruck stocks are all good guys Dan and Blair told us. Hammer, big soldo and ivan nothing to see here
:thumbsup
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Could have got Dawson Simpson too.
Barr a complete left field unforseen deal, trade period is an overwhelming fail especially if:-
- we cough up 12 for Yarran; or
- we can't get a deal done for Yarran (manufacture a late first warly second rd) except for pick 12.
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:banghead :banghead :banghead
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I can tell you Zac Smith has a myriad of leg problems .. Mammoth risk
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I can tell you Zac Smith has a myriad of leg problems .. Mammoth risk
Picks 49 and 53. Yeah, I think that pretty much eliminates any risk
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Only fitting I make the 1500th post as I started this thread before the mods stole it off me and made it their own lol
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Meanwhile at Richmond....
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Hwc_oz1k1I4_wwV44ORJF4WJToV8WIKmQ9FYPrTgbPxJagBoue4Z9bQxIh9zGd_MVxnzNn9xdHHo43LxaKz2ga0wDlP1fWgmp76RQfOFtx7U5DBwGBoZ3GPmbIGgSkjZPZU4JQD0bqsRluW5oR57v1ql7NmN65ZQqSIKgT9orIryHCWQoD0vj4mfn-7A_89TU6Ft_P7D-xuhzqST6yE5aPap9NXmHP7EKQ=w300-h470-nc)
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but if you're arguing we could get a better than pick 12 for Ellis then you also think he's surpassed his potential. ;D ;D
Nope on the contrary
I don't rate him that highly, just like I don't rate Astbury that highly (hence why a 2nd rounder would have been a steal)
But for reasons that only the AFL industry can explain they (AFL inndustry) rate them highly.... that's why Ellis B could get us a pick in the top 10...
I wouldn't rate some old baseball card worth anything, but some blokes will pay huge dollars for it. I'd have to acknowledge that despite my own personal valuing of the card, its worth a lot. So my statement that he's surpassed his value as a #15 pick stands. If you're arguing that he's worth a top 10 pick, he's surpassed his value. Numbers don't lie!
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Richmond still asleep at the wheel
They are still looking for the wheel. ;D
What's a wheel?? :huh
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Cats doing trades for the fun of it. Two third round picks for a bloke who wont get a game ahead of their other ruckmen? Ok Geelong, whatever ... ::)
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Cats doing trades for the fun of it. Two third round picks for a bloke who wont get a game ahead of their other ruckmen? Ok Geelong, whatever ... ::)
Won't get a game ahead of who? I think he's a great chance to get a game.
Simpson left. McIntosh retired.
Clark is playing forward if he's playing at all.
Stanley can play ruck, Vardy can play ruck/forward but is ususally injured, Blicavs can play anywhere but is more of a 2nd ruck options.
So Smith would really just be competing with Stanley, Vardy and Blicavs but IMO he's a better first ruck than all of them.
Think it will be Hawkins, Clark, Vardy in the F50. Smith/Stanley + Blicavs in the ruck.
So cheap too. Better option than Hampson and much cheaper...
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Richmond still asleep at the wheel
ruck stocks are all good guys Dan and Blair told us. Hammer, big soldo and ivan nothing to see here
:thumbsup
:shh
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Rob Waters has tweeted;
"Adam Treloar will become @CollingwoodFC player today. The Pies give two R1 picks and a pick in the 60/70's . They get Treloar and 2nd round."
then tweeted
"Not falling into this again .More hold ups on Treloar deal. Today unlikely. Late pics delaying it But Howe deal is likely. #needtherapy
https://twitter.com/RobWaters10
Collingwood midfielder Nathan Freeman is set to join the Saints in a deal for St Kilda's second round pick next year.
The deal which is expected to go through Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning at the latest, will also involve an exchange of later draft picks.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-period-2015-nathan-freeman-to-join-st-kilda-by-tuesday-morning-20151019-gkcoy5.html
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Troy Menzel's name has come up in talks between GWS and Carlton, possibly for A Tomlinson. Don't think Menzel would agree to moving, though.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
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Dodoro has rejected pick 10 for Jake Carlisle.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper
Brisbane are adamant they will not accept only a 2nd round pick for James Aish.
https://twitter.com/afltrade
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anyone know if the tigers are at the trade table... ill be :banghead :banghead if we get yarran Thursday and fin dout we had other options but we wanted to get yarran to the club we just ran out of time
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Only fitting I make the 1500th post as I started this thread before the mods stole it off me and made it their own lol
Didn't they lock yours pretty quickly after stealing credit for this one?
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Only fitting I make the 1500th post as I started this thread before the mods stole it off me and made it their own lol
Didn't they lock yours pretty quickly after stealing credit for this one?
Yep :thumbsdown
would have thought it would be easier to delete posts rather than lock a whole thread which had merit.
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I've heard Essendon and Carlton are showing interest in Matty Dea. I'd be disappointed to lose him but if Dimma refuses to play him we may as well get something for him.
Maybe our second round pick and Dea for Yarran?
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My mail is that might have some legs :shh
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Well....that's the end of that then....
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I've heard Essendon and Carlton are showing interest in Matty Dea. I'd be disappointed to lose him but if Dimma refuses to play him we may as well get something for him.
Maybe our second round pick and Dea for Yarran?
Would do that deal in a heartbeat
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North Melbourne massive go at James Aish has kind of slipped under radar. A couple of sources have suggested they've offered circa $500k x 4 years.
Agent Tom Petroro has killed em' with Giles, secures three year deal, seems overs @WestCoastEagles @EssendonFC
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/with_replies
North Melbourne's Ryan Bastinac seems set to request a trade to Brisbane to take up a 4 year deal.
Courtenay Dempsey's manager Shane Casley has had discussions with Essendon over the past week about the unrestricted free agent, who is on the Swans' radar.
Giants' Tomas Bugg remains on track to join the Demons, with the club expected to use a third round pick for the 22-year-old.
Gold Coast remains hopeful of securing West Coast's Matt Rosa after he shocked the Eagles last week when he requested a trade. Negotiations are ongoing but the 28-year-old could attract a second round selection from the Suns after 168 games with the Eagles if the club agrees to a trade
The future home of exiled Western Bulldogs defender Michael Talia is unclear, with the Sydney Swans' interest appearing to cool.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/trade-wrap-monday-ryan-bastinac-likely-to-head-north
Carlton are set to trade either picks 20 and 21 in the draft and are set to trade one of them to the Giants for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Liam Sumner and Andrew Phillips. The Giants would then pass on that Carlton traded pick to Collingwood - along with Treloar - for the Magpies' first round picks this year and next year.
Sydney's first-round pick has become the latest bargaining chip in negotiations between Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle. The Swans would be prepared to help the deadlock if it would allow the club to turn their No. 14 pick (worth 1161 points on the draft value index) into multiple selections, or extra draft points. The three clubs have begun exploring a trade that in essence would see Sydney switch pick 14 for St Kilda's pick 24 and another selection or two. The Saints would then send pick five to Essendon for Carlisle.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/afl-trade-period-2015-sydney-swans-step-into-jake-carlisle-trade-talks-20151019-gkcrl6.html
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Carlton want to have their cake & eat it....want pick 12 for Yarren and to get those GWS kids with 20 & 21...just tell them to jam it already...
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A couple from Big Footy...
Hearing word from my Geelong supporting cousin (the one who has connections to a few of the younger players) that Zac Smith has been noted to a few of his new teammates at the Cattery that we are chasing Prestia hard, either this year or next. Have been talking to his manager on and off for the past few months and ramped it up over the past month.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-280#post-41631496
Rumour - Should Saints and Bombers fail to agree on Carlisle deal, Tigers will also make a play. Not just Hawks.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tiger-rumours-no-discussion.1115160/#post-41631768
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I'd take Aish for pick 12 and make fat Eddie eat a dic at least the same time
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I reckon we should give up our first rd pick for this year and next year in return for Yarran :shh
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and the following year too :clapping
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...in perpetuity until Carlton's next flag.....
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I've heard Essendon and Carlton are showing interest in Matty Dea. I'd be disappointed to lose him but if Dimma refuses to play him we may as well get something for him.
Maybe our second round pick and Dea for Yarran?
Would do that deal in a heartbeat
Maybe Tim Clarke is already having a positive influence in his new role at Carlton. Dea was a favourite of his..... :shh
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I've heard Essendon and Carlton are showing interest in Matty Dea. I'd be disappointed to lose him but if Dimma refuses to play him we may as well get something for him.
Maybe our second round pick and Dea for Yarran?
Would do that deal in a heartbeat
Maybe Tim Clarke is already having a positive influence in his new role at Carlton. Dea was a favourite of his..... :shh
That's good it makes Dea worth a 1st round pick :snidegrin
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Thats no secret bro
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Carlton is also eyeing Giants big man Adam Tomlinson to help replace departed tall Lachie Henderson.
Tomlinson, 22, is contracted for next season, but Blues list manager Stephen Silvagni, who originally drafted him to the Giants with pick No. 9 in 2011, remains keen to land Tomlinson.
One option open to the Blues is to hand over the future first-round draft pick it received from Geelong (for Henderson) on to the Giants. A draft pick in between 10-20 could seal the deal for the 53-gamer.
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-magpies-secure-jeremy-howe-in-four-club-deal/story-fnj3twbb-1227574722859
Charlie Dixon is willing to go into either drafts to get to Port, if Gold Coast don't give into a trade that Port agrees with.
Dixon, 25, is committed to nominating for either of the AFL drafts — national or pre-season next month when the Power has pick No. 10 — and is confident of reaching Alberton where he has a five-year deal worth $3.1 million to sign.
This would leave Gold Coast empty handed. The Suns currently have the Power’s first-round draft pick (No. 10) on offer but are demanding two first rounders.
http://www.themercury.com.au/charlie-dixon-confident-of-getting-to-port-adelaide-through-afl-draft-if-trade-talks-stall/story-fnj3twbb-1227574765512
Hawthorn would be prepared to restructure its player payments to fit in Jake Carlisle as Essendon stands firm on its trade demands.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-hawthorn-has-salary-cap-room-for-disgruntled-bomber-jake-carlisle/story-fnp04d70-1227574772610
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if carlton want dea feel free to take him he is only a list clogger nothing more no spot in best 22 for him so move him on and use him to get the yarran deal...
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12 and Dea for Yarran and Menzel.... :shh
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Would do
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BIG News unfolding between Adelaide and Carlton. AFL's Mitch Cleary is reporting that a deal is pending which would see Carlton send Troy Menzel to the Crows, who will send Sam Kerridge and pick 28 the way of the Blues.
Mark Stevens has tweeted "expect Adam Treloar to become a Pie (finally) mid to late arvo today." Whilst also warning Magpie fans there won't be much 'fanfare' as "Treloar is in New Zealand for a family wedding." [Groundhog Day]
Essendon's Brent Stanton is poised to knock back rival interest and sign a one-year contract extension at the Bombers with "a very achievable" trigger clause to push the deal into the 2017 season. - AFL Website
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Carlton are absolutely taking the pee if they're demanding 12 for Yarran whilst accepting 28 & a fringe player for Menzel....I'd take Menzel over Yarran every day of the week....had a crap year, but the kid will be a star....
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We are getting trolled by the idiots
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12 and Dea for Yarran and Menzel.... :shh
Menzel is a gun like his brother but he has similar injury probs like his brother too. Will he spend most of his career in rehab? Happy to trade Dea ;D but I'd rather keep pick 12 for another top kid without baggage or who isn't injury-prone most of the time.
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Twitter all a flutter that the Carlisle and Dixon deals are all but done
@TomBrowne7: Breaking exclusive @7NewsMelbourne deal DONE for Carlisle to st kilda , involves @sydneyswans . Paperwork being done now
And from Stevo
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Charlie Dixon deal done, with the help of Richmond .. Suns to get picks this year and next ..
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Believe Richmond secure pick 19 this year in Dixon future pick shuffle .. 19 for Yarran looming ?
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if we somehow scored 19, keep it and use it. Yarran is not worth a top 20 pick.
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:huh
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How do we get pick 19 to trade it to Carlton for Yarran?
Better not be pick 12!
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maybe we traded future 1st rounder?
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How do we get pick 19 to trade it to Carlton for Yarran?
Better not be pick 12!
They're saying it's got something to do with future picks
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this sounds bad ...
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gee that would be desperate, they'd wanna hope Yarren goes on to become a legend :lol
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Re Dixon deal
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive: Dixon deal will be great for Suns .. Believe 10 and 31 this year and Port and Rich second rounders next year @7NewsMelbourne
And somehow we get pick 19 from this year from Gold Coast I think
Still trying to confirm
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How do we get pick 19 to trade it to Carlton for Yarran?
Better not be pick 12!
They're saying it's got something to do with future picks
Just read that on twitter.
Apparently we've agreed to swap 2016 first round picks with Port. Imagine if we finish below them next year :P.
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From Stevo
@Stevo7AFL: Richmond moving up order this year to 19 in Dixon deal clearly gives more wriggle room re Yarran
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Re Dixon deal
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive: Dixon deal will be great for Suns .. Believe 10 and 31 this year and Port and Rich second rounders next year @7NewsMelbourne
And somehow we get pick 19 from this year from Gold Coast I think
Still trying to confirm
That's better if it's two second round picks instead of first rounders.
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Re Dixon deal
@Stevo7AFL: Exclusive: Dixon deal will be great for Suns .. Believe 10 and 31 this year and Port and Rich second rounders next year @7NewsMelbourne
And somehow we get pick 19 from this year from Gold Coast I think
Still trying to confirm
That's better if it's two second round picks instead of first rounders.
Yep would be good deal if true
Most important bit is we have traded 1st round picks this year or next year
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PORT Adelaide has again worked a multi-club shuffle of draft picks to secure a trade - this time Gold Coast key forward Charlie Dixon.
A day after using Collingwood in a three-club trade for Melbourne midfielder Jimmy Toumpas, the Power has linked up with Richmond and Carlton to end the impasse with the Suns on Dixon.
The paperwork securing the 25-year-old Dixon is being lodged with the AFL this afternoon - well before the 1.30pm Thursday deadline for the AFL trade period.
Port Adelaide will not hand away two first-round draft picks as Gold Coast had demanded.
The Power will concede its first-round draft pick (No. 10) as coach Ken Hinkley promised last month - and swap second-round draft picks in a shuffle with the Suns and Tigers.
Beyond the bonus of securing Dixon - who will ultimately replace Jay Schulz as the Power’s major go-to forward - Port Adelaide will still have a call in the top-20 of next month’s AFL draft in Adelaide.
It would be at No. 19, the end-of-first-round draft pick traded by the Suns.
The Dixon deal is expected to trigger other trades, in particular Chris Yarran’s move from Carlton to Richmond.
http://www.themercury.com.au/port-adelaide-seals-trade-for-gold-coast-key-forward-charlie-dixon-in-three-club-deal/story-fnj3twbb-1227575912782
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So Port get 19? :huh3
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if we somehow scored 19, keep it and use it. Yarran is not worth a top 20 pick.
Agree.
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Here it is:
"Upcoming Charlie Dixon deal should pave the way for Richmond to land Carlton speedster Chris Yarran with pick No.19 #TradePeriod
Richmond will give 31 and 2016 2nd rd pick for Suns' 19."
https://twitter.com/AFL_Nick/with_replies
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What a stuffing joke. Massive rip off.
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So basically, we forfeit 3 potential picks so we can get Chris Yarren? Should we trade that 19th pick of course...
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Pick 19 is worth 948 pts.
Pick 31 is worth 606 pts.
2nd round picks are worth 500-900 pts.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/biddingsystemfeedback.pdf
So yep we've paid overs.
We needed a 3rd rounder back our way to at least even up the points value (mind you in this shallow draft that wouldn't be worth it it seems).
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We certainly seem to like to do Port favours this time of year. Idiot club.
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Boy oh boy
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CHARLIE Dixon is a Port Adelaide player after the Power and Gold Coast signed off on a three-club deal that should pave the way for Richmond to snare Carlton speedster Chris Yarran.
Dixon requested a trade to Port on the Monday after the home and away season concluded.
Port coach Ken Hinkley indicated soon afterwards that the Power would be prepared to part with their first-round pick in this year's NAB AFL Draft, No.10 overall, for the Suns spearhead.
But Gold Coast's refusal to accept that offer started a protracted negotiation between the clubs.
However, Richmond's intervention in those negotiations saw the parties reach a deal on Tuesday afternoon in which:
-Port receives Dixon and pick No.49 and gives up pick No.10 and its 2016 second-round pick.
-Gold Coast receives picks No.10 and 31 and two 2016 second-round picks and gives up Dixon and picks No.19 and 49.
-Richmond receives pick No.19 and gives up pick No.31 and its 2016 second-round pick.
Richmond will almost certainly now seek to pass on pick No.19 to Carlton for Yarran, who is contracted for 2016 but keen for a fresh start.
(http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs.afl.com.au%2Fstaticfile%2FAFL%2520Tenant%2FPortAdelaide%2FImages%2FHero%2520Images%2Ftradegraphic_dixon.jpg&width=810)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-finally-completed-as-suns-star-dixon-heads-to-port
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Good deal, smart move tigers.
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Effectively, it'll be our second round pick 31 + our 2016 2nd rounder for Yarran.
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I dont mind it.
We cant nail a second rounder anyway. Might as well roll the dice on a player who does have real talent.
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Keep pick 12 and 19! Use both on best available young talent!
Do not cave in Richmond!
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Keep pick 12 and 19! Use both on best available young talent!
Do not cave in Richmond!
More so,
If a week before trade week you say "we are not going to get a good player"
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Keep pick 12 and 19! Use both on best available young talent!
Do not cave in Richmond!
More so,
If a week before trade week you say "we are not going to get a good player"
Exactly
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How about we use 19 to get Tomlinson.
Lets see how quick the Scum move to flick Yarran to us under that scenario
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Yeah all their wooden spoon duds are stuffing first round champs all of a sudden, move on, there is going to be something good at 12 and 19 surely
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Richmond helps another good key forward to Port lol. When are they giving us a decent player
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Andrew Moore is coming... :shh
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:lol
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Wow amazing what has transpired since I last checked :shh
I say screw the filth, time to walk and use our picks on other players
Yarran can come next year when he's out of contract
stuffing blues eh?, stuffing blues :thumbsdown
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I dont mind it.
Hackson cant nail a second rounder anyway. Might as well roll the dice on a player who does have real talent.
Sorry had to edit and yes agreed it's a descent deal purely on the form of one FJ
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Proposed Carlisle deal ... (needs Craig Bird to accept moving to Essendon)
@thelistmanager exclusive:
St Kilda: IN Carlisle,14&44. OUT 5&24
Ess: IN Pick 5, Craig Bird. OUT Carlisle, 25&44
Syd: IN 24&25 OUT Bird&14
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/with_replies
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Not for this year, but another Ollie Wines rumour. Been hearing a few lately
Just got off the phone to my mate: "RFC offered Ollie Wines $1.2 million a year for 8 years." I believe it's for end of next year though.
http://www.tigermosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=246&start=20
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Geeh essendon have done well there
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Why are Sydney gripping their ankles?
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Not for this year, but another Ollie Wines rumour. Been hearing a few lately
Just got off the phone to my mate: "RFC offered Ollie Wines $1.2 million a year for 8 years." I believe it's for end of next year though.
http://www.tigermosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=246&start=20
Which asylum is he in?
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Why are Sydney gripping their ankles?
The Swans need the picks for bidding points towards their academy kids.
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I reckon saints did very well
Lost pick 5 but got a KPD just entering his prime and still stay in the 1st round, very very good trading for mine
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I reckon saints did very well
Lost pick 5 but got a KPD just entering his prime and still stay in the 1st round, very very good trading for mine
100% agree.
On paper having early picks seems the way to go but having pick 1 or even pick 12 doesn't guarantee you of anything.
Every year there are early picks that are flops. And more than people probably realize.
How often does pick 1 end up the best player of the draft? Not often.
At least with Carlisle for pick 5 you know what you are going to get.
Most Tigers supporters think FJ has got ours all right for a while but IMO Ellis and Conca are both useless. I wouldn't play either of them in our starting 18, which when you consider how ordinary our last 5 picked most weeks are, those two are fails IMO. I know it's only my opinion but neither of those two will take us anywhere in finals time.
If we could somehow trade those two out for players that may make our side a better finals side we should.
I would have offered our pick 12 this year and our first pick next year for Carlisle if it were up to me. It sounds like a lot but it's not if those kids end up anything like Ellis and Conca.
Rance, Carlisle, Grimes and Vlastuin is a pretty great starting 4 in our backline for the next 5,6,7 years.
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picks after 20 are arse.
good move to gain a sub 20 pick.
dont waste it on yarran
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picks after 20 are arse.
good move to gain a sub 20 pick.
dont waste it on yarran
Carlton still demanding pick 12 aparently.
Please God let us walk away from this :pray
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picks after 20 are arse.
good move to gain a sub 20 pick.
dont waste it on yarran
Carlton still demanding pick 12 aparently.
Please God let us walk away from this :pray
x2
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picks after 20 are arse.
good move to gain a sub 20 pick.
dont waste it on yarran
Carlton still demanding pick 12 aparently.
Please God let us walk away from this :pray
x2
x3
Hawthorn will offer Pick 15 I reckon for Yarran.
That is a win for us!
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doubt it
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doubt it
Anything is possible!!
They did just take on Newman as a development coach :P
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Adelaide is believed to be on the verge of clinching a deal with Carlton that would see Troy Menzel join the Crows in exchange for Sam Kerridge and pick No.28.
The Blues are then expected to on-trade pick No.28 to the Giants for young quartet Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips and Liam Sumner.
The Adam Treloar to Collingwood saga continues to drag on. The Magpies are prepared to hand over two first-round picks for Treloar and a second-round pick. However AFL.com.au understands the delay is related to whether the Giants hand over pick No.27, which they hold, or pick No.28, which is likely to come in from Carlton.
North Melbourne forward Aaron Black's hopes of a trade to Fremantle are fading fast. Although the Dockers retain some interest in the West Australian, it is understood the clubs remains a fair way apart after recent discussions. It is believed North proposed a deal in which it sent its pick No.34 for the Dockers' No.22, but Freo quickly scuttled it.
Gold Coast will turn its attention to veteran Eagles midfielder Matt Rosa, who is seeking further senior opportunities with the Suns. The Suns now hold picks No.31, 35 and 43, with 35 or 43 seemingly enough to get the deal done if the Eagles are prepared to trade the 28-year-old.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-20/trade-wrap-tigers-no-closer-to-yarran
http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-2015-carlton-set-to-lose-troy-menzel-to-adelaide/story-fnj3twbb-1227575662956
Brisbane's James Aish and North Melbourne's Ryan Bastinac will get to their destination of choice via a three way trade with Collingwood.
Brisbane Receive: Ryan Bastinac
Collingwood Receive: James Aish
North Melbourne will receive draft picks.
- Mitch Cleary, Trade Radio.
North Melbourne's Ryan Bastinac is set to join Brisbane in a move that could land the Roos pick No.17 in return. In return, the Roos would potentially give Brisbane a trio of later picks, including No.34, No.38 and No. 40, boosting the Lions’ points balance to bring in their two academy players. The value of No. 34 (542) No. 38 (465) and No. 40 (429) outweigh the value of No. 17 (1025), helping secure the Lions the extra points they need to claim academy targets Ben Keays and Eric Hipwood. --- Herald-Sun
Brisbane's Rohan Bewick has met with North officials recently and could be headed to the Roos as part of the Bastinac deal. --- Herald-Sun
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Gee wizz Aish sub 30 and blues want 12 for Yazz
Bloody pies do it again. stuff
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Gee wizz Aish sub 30 and blues want 12 for Yazz
Bloody pies do it again. stuff
I'd offer pick 19 for Aish. Yarren might be off to the Roos for pick 17 and a 2nd rounder
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Gee wizz Aish sub 30 and blues want 12 for Yazz
Bloody pies do it again. stuff
I'd offer pick 19 for Aish. Yarren might be off to the Roos for pick 17 and a 2nd rounder
Roo's have already offered 17 for Aish.
It would be nine to to dump Yarren on them at the last minute ;D
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Aish will go to the Pies we all know this unfortunately
Lions will bend over for a second rounder eventually
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doubt it
Anything is possible!!
They did just take on Newman as a development coach :P
whorethorn tend to offload players with the sort of issues i was told yarren has, not bring them into the club
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A video by Collingwood interviewing Treloar in a Pies' polo has been leaked.
http://www.themercury.com.au/collingwood-club-video-showing-adam-treloar-leaked-online/story-fnj3twbb-1227576449408
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Apparently we are sniffing around Lobbe and waving pick twelve around
This was reported in the Age live trade. Thoughts? I reckon he would be a good pickup, free up hampson to pursue his male modeling career and Ivan won't have to work like an Egyptian donkey all day
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Carlisle deal is done.
Jake Carlisle | The Essendon utility has officially been traded to St Kilda after the Saints secured a trade with the Bombers and the Sydney Swans.
The Saints will acquire Carlisle and the Swans’ pick No.14 in exchange for pick No.5 (to Essendon) and No.24 (to Sydney). The deal also involves an exchange of picks and players between Essendon and Sydney.
Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/trade-sentral-wednesday-21st-october#2W0y8g1IevTXCmxG.99
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All these deals are getting done around us.. :help
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Apparently we are sniffing around Lobbe and waving pick twelve around
This was reported in the Age live trade. Thoughts? I reckon he would be a good pickup, free up hampson to pursue his male modeling career and Ivan won't have to work like an Egyptian donkey all day
Good age, unsure about injury, looks OK
Straight swap with Conca?
Plus
It would be interesting giving them pick 12, that would change Carltons take as they can only get pick 19 to get the deal done for CY
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I wouldn't mind Lobbe but pick 12 is overs!!! Zac Smith went for picks in the 30's and 40's FFS
Don't be stupid tigers
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Just chatter atm, might be some sort of ruse to pressure carltank into crapping themselves. Maybe there is a package deal or something.. who knows.
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pick 12 is too high for him....pick 19 is a rip off for him...etc
some here are a real clowns...
just watch the parade go by and keep banging your heads against the wall like this... :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
yeah maybe we should use pick 12 in the draft to pick up another conca or tambling ....muppets
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one of your more informative posts
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pick 12 is too high for him....pick 19 is a rip off for him...etc
some here are a real clowns...
just watch the parade go by and keep banging your heads against the wall like this... :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
yeah maybe we should use pick 12 in the draft to pick up another conca or tambling ....muppets
So you'd give up pick 12 for Lobbe or Yarran would you?
Some stuffing muppets around here - one of the dumber posts I've seen around here
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I would have offered our pick 12 this year and our first pick next year for Carlisle if it were up to me. It sounds like a lot but it's not if those kids end up anything like Ellis and Conca.
Rance, Carlisle, Grimes and Vlastuin is a pretty great starting 4 in our backline for the next 5,6,7 years.
As bad as I think the RFC is doing I just thank god that some of the nuts on here arent in charge
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I am reporting what I read on the age live trade, you can all eat cat poo ya bunch of stuffs, I will murder you all oooooh look shiny
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yep pick 12 for Lobbe is a good deal....you liyyle colombian spick :thumbsup
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and 19 is very good for yaz
you can introduce him to us using your famous line.....say hello to my little friend!!!Yaz
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Cracy mang
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"We're gettin lazy mang" would be more for Yarran
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now said the Bulldogs are into Lobbe but he doesn't want to leave Port. Richmond hasn't had any contact as far as Lobbe goes all trade period.
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On the other hand, the Adelaide Advertiser is saying Port Adelaide have reportedly rejected Richmond's offer of Pick 12 for Matthew Lobbe.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Kreuzer and burger were free
Give away our 12 ...
Wtf
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Deals just done ....
Melbourne Receive: Picks 3, 10, 43
Melbourne Lose: 6, 29 and 1st Round in 2016.
Gold Coast Receive: 6, 29 and 1st Round in 2016.
Gold Coast Lose: Picks 3, 10, 43
Matt Rosa to the Suns for pick 31.
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didnt realize he will be 27 in Feb
ye no......not for pick 12
maybe for conca and or astbury...anda set of steak knives...aka Hampson
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Meanwhile helping port get Dixon
Circus
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Richmond have "categorically" denied offering pick 12 for Port Adelaide's Matthew Lobbe.
- Mick Warner, Herald Sun
https://twitter.com/theafloffseason
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Blues have secured pick 8 from GWS and turned Troy Menzel into Sam Kerridge, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb and Andrew Phillips.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/656653587531956224
The Blues/GWS deal is done.
Blues get Pick 8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips and Sumner.
GWS get 28, 77, 95 and Cats 2016 F/R Pick
https://twitter.com/SENNews
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How do you maintain any interest in all this Bullshirt?
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Blues have secured pick 8 from GWS and turned Troy Menzel into Sam Kerridge, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb and Andrew Phillips.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/656653587531956224
The Blues/GWS deal is done.
Blues get Pick 8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips and Sumner.
GWS get 28, 77, 95 and Cats 2016 F/R Pick
https://twitter.com/SENNews
Wtf
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Blues have secured pick 8 from GWS and turned Troy Menzel into Sam Kerridge, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb and Andrew Phillips.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/656653587531956224
The Blues/GWS deal is done.
Blues get Pick 8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips and Sumner.
GWS get 28, 77, 95 and Cats 2016 F/R Pick
https://twitter.com/SENNews
Could help us with Yarran, 2 early first round picks. Any more can be daunting.
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Geez I would like to put up four blokes like that. Lots of talent up in GWS. Not enough spots.
Carlton can FO if they won't take 19. But they'll take it eventually...
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Lions want two 2nd-rounders from Pies for James Aish. If Pies can't deliver, Roos hope Aish changes mind rather than going into draft
Still expect Pies will get Aish, but believed to be reluctant to pass on two 2016 second-rounders for the Lion at this stage.
At this stage, Pies can't do Aish deal until Treloar deal is done. Expected to get Giants' 2016 second-rounder in that deal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
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LOL with SOS. He had all these draft picks at GWS that are know deemed not good enough for them so he sends them to Blues instead and then accumulates more draft picks for Blues so he can waste them all over again.
As if they won't 19 FFS. Heard them say they want a sweetener? What a load of garbage.
Pretenders!!
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didnt realize he will be 27 in Feb
ye no......not for pick 12
maybe for conca and or astbury...anda set of steak knives...aka Hampson
:shh
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Got to say I'm not one of the ones advocating doing trades for the sake of being seen to be doing something.
However am I wrong to find it disconcerting the ease a lot of clubs seem to be taking advantage of the points system certain clubs need for academy players to get themselves a steal? Look at Adelaide with Menzel, Carlton getting those players And pick 8, Melbourne doing a deal to get 3 top 10 picks.....
Have we missed the boat getting so hung up on this yarran deal that we didn't put enough thought into getting creative to bundle up late picks?
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Got to say I'm not one of the ones advocating doing trades for the sake of being seen to be doing something.
However am I wrong to find it disconcerting the ease a lot of clubs seem to be taking advantage of the points system certain clubs need for academy players to get themselves a steal? Look at Adelaide with Menzel, Carlton getting those players And pick 8, Melbourne doing a deal to get 3 top 10 picks.....
Have we missed the boat getting so hung up on this yarran deal that we didn't put enough thought into getting creative to bundle up late picks?
yes ...
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Keep hearing the Saints are keen to prise Lachie Weller out of Freo with pick 14. Player is open to it, his club not so much.
https://twitter.com/afl_hashbrowne
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calrton just got four gws players
Plowman, Phillips, Lamb & Sumner
and pick 8 ...
for menzel ...
lol wat ??
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Apparently, 18 of the top 30 picks have changed hands in the last 24 hours :o.
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calrton just got four gws players
Plowman, Phillips, Lamb & Sumner
and pick 8 ...
for menzel ...
lol wat ??
Duds one of em has been at 3 different clubs and none of em can string games together. Silvagni is a dud and I am glad he is at caarltank to stuff poo up along the lines of Jane Tird at the Bombers and Figjam 'the mandible' Buckley at the collingwood sewerage treatment plant
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calrton just got four gws players
Plowman, Phillips, Lamb & Sumner
and pick 8 ...
for menzel ...
lol wat ??
Duds one of em has been at 3 different clubs and none of em can string games together. Silvagni is a dud and I am glad he is at caarltank to stuff poo up along the lines of Jane Tird at the Bombers and Figjam 'the mandible' Buckley at the collingwood sewerage treatment plant
That's the problem with the "retired legend coming home to be the messiah" strategy.
Things get through unchecked.
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calrton just got four gws players
Plowman, Phillips, Lamb & Sumner
and pick 8 ...
for menzel ...
lol wat ??
Duds one of em has been at 3 different clubs and none of em can string games together. Silvagni is a dud and I am glad he is at caarltank to stuff poo up along the lines of Jane Tird at the Bombers and Figjam 'the mandible' Buckley at the collingwood sewerage treatment plant
That's the problem with the "retired legend coming home to be the messiah" strategy.
Things get through unchecked.
things like Plowman or pick #8 :huh
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what did they lose bents? Seems like a win for me.
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NORTH Melbourne midfielder Ryan Bastinac is set to cross to the Brisbane Lions in a deal that complicates Collingwood's efforts to sign Lions midfielder James Aish.
There had been speculation Bastinac might get to the Lions in a three-way deal that would also have sent Aish to Collingwood, but the Pies will now have to reach a separate deal for the Lions midfielder.
With the NAB AFL Trade Period's deadline of 2pm AEDT on Thursday fast approaching, Collingwood is running out of time to finalise an agreement with the Lions, meaning North retains some hope of convincing Aish that his future lies at Arden Street.
In return for Bastinac, North will climb back into the first round of this year's draft.
North will, in turn, send picks No.38 and 40 to the Lions, which will ensure they still have the draft points they are expected to need to match rival bids for their highly rated academy players Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays.
Giving up pick No.17 will see the Lions lose 1025 points, but picks No.38 and 40 nearly cover that loss with their combined 884 points.
As of Wednesday afternoon, the Treloar trade was expected to drag on into the final day of the trade period, leaving the Pies with a significant task of securing trades for the Giant and Aish before the 2pm deadline.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/lions-pounce-on-north-mid-ryan-bastinac
Officials from Melbourne and GWS, together with player manager Tom Petroro, are seated together in the foyer here at the AFL, which suggests a trade for Giants defender Tom Bugg might be imminent.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/trade-period-live-two-days-to-go
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they lost the squib menzel
:huh
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they lost the squib menzel
:huh
exactly the type of squibs we should be trying to offload
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they lost the squib menzel
:huh
exactly the type of squibs we should be trying to offload
Menzel >>>>>> B.Ellis, Conca.......and Yarran......
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with all these great players they have, it is so amazing they won the wooden spoon! They must of tanked and then decided to offload all these champions. This is actually probably closer to the mark, knowing they can't win a flag with their current crop of poo, they took a slash and burn approach rather than pound around the 9th mark for years on end like we did.
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they lost the squib menzel
:huh
exactly the type of squibs we should be trying to offload
Menzel >>>>>> B.Ellis, Conca.......and Yarran......
In what universe??? Surely some other parallel time and place because not in the real world. :scream
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Treloar deal is finally done.
TRADE DONE: The GIANTS receive pick 7, 62 & 2016 first round pick from @CollingwoodFC in exchange for Adam Treloar & pick 28.
https://twitter.com/GWSGIANTS
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:facepalm
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Meanwhile we pat ourselves on the back for scoring a cheap replacement for Arnot while rotating on our thumbs hypnotised by Silvagni over Yarran....
they lost the squib menzel
:huh
exactly the type of squibs we should be trying to offload
Menzel >>>>>> B.Ellis, Conca.......and Yarran......
In what universe??? Surely some other parallel time and place because not in the real world. :scream
In the universe where people can recognise clear talent...
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Treloar was always going to Eddieville, there was no question, let that be a lesson to all of us. Contracted or not, any player that nominates a club goes there....FA or not, trade period it doesn't matter, the player will always end up at the club they nominate...
Oh except for Yarran and the RFC.. :help
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4:39pm: And, wow, another trade - Hawthorn have just snapped up Jack Fitzpatrick from Melbourne for pick 94.
4:54pm: CONFIRMED TRADE: Tomas Bugg is heading to Melbourne.
The Dees will give up 10, 43 and 64 to GWS.
In exchange they get Bugg plus pick 7.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/live-afl-trade-period-day-eight-20151020-gke97k.html#ixzz3pBBzSXgs
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:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead....just :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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What the stuff is going on at Richmond????
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I wouldn't be shocked if we end up giving them pick 12 in exchange for Yarran and their pick 21.
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all these clubs getting cheap upgrades taking advantage of this academy BS whilst we're left with our cock n our hands
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lol stuff me dead... back off bojo, its a turn of phrase ffs.
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Wtf you going on abt hooter?
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only reason to get rid of pick 12 for yarran is by getting pick 21 from them aswell and then on trading 19 and 21 to gws for pick 10 as the points system may help
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only reason to get rid of pick 12 for yarran is by getting pick 21 from them aswell and then on trading 19 and 21 to gws for pick 10 as the points system may help
We missed the boat on this!!
Pick 12 and 19 would of had us 7!!!
Even pick 12 and 31 (had we kept it) would have got that deal done :banghead
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we missed the boat on pick 7. pick 10 is still achievable i believe. move two spots up in draft whilst obtaining yarran.
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fmd melbourne have slayed that deal.
give up two arse picks while picking up a young player and upgrading pick 10 to 7
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Carlton will again go after GWS tall forward Adam Tomlinson on Thursday. The 22-year-old is contracted until 2017 but Silvagni is hopeful the two clubs can come to an agreement now that GWS footy operations boss Graeme Allan has less on his plate.
Silvagni said tall forward Levi Casboult was expected to be on the Blues' list next season.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-21/blues-wont-budge-on-yarran-to-tigers-deal)
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What the stuff is going on at Richmond????
Not much, but I'm sure we'll pay overs for something
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Gazump Carlton for Tomlinson.....use pick 19.....
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Just a thought
We have picks 12, 19, 53 and something else.
Freo are needing picks to even entertain taking McCarthy from GWS so why not offer pick 12 and maybe something for Lachine Neal. We pick up a gun goal kicking mid and they get and early pick towards Mccarthy plus a player or another pick of some kind?
And blues are being flogs, so it's pick 19 or walk.
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What the stuff is going on at Richmond????
Not much, but I'm sure we'll pay overs for something
Par for the course
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What the stuff is going on at Richmond????
Not much, but I'm sure we'll pay overs for something
Par for the course
Yep :thumbsup
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all these clubs getting cheap upgrades taking advantage of this academy BS whilst we're left with our cock n our hands
its like going to the greek islands in july and watching all ur mates score why u go home with SFA.
we have royally stuffed this one right up it seems.
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only reason to get rid of pick 12 for yarran is by getting pick 21 from them aswell and then on trading 19 and 21 to gws for pick 10 as the points system may help
That is an outstanding idea
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So posting cryptic clues about trades apparently isn't allowed now as well....ffs....
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So posting cryptic clues about trades apparently isn't allowed now as well....ffs....
Is there a leak?
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only reason to get rid of pick 12 for yarran is by getting pick 21 from them as well and then on trading 19 and 21 to gws for pick 10 as the points system may help
If GWS are open to it (they expect their academy kids to receive bids from clubs with early picks) then that would work.
Pick 10 1,395 pts
Picks 19 + 21 948 + 878 = 1,826 pts
Alternatively, Carlton are after Tomlinson so you could do a 3-way trade:
Richmond - GAIN Yarran & pick 10; LOSE picks 12, 19
Carlton - GAIN Tomlinson; LOSE Yarran & pick 21
GWS - GAIN picks 12, 19 & 21; LOSE Tomlinson & pick 10
It would also be tempting to go after Carlton's pick 8 with a slight modification to the above in terms of first round picks.
Richmond - GAIN Yarran & pick 8; LOSE picks 12, 19
Carlton - GAIN Tomlinson & pick 12; LOSE Yarran, picks 8 & 21
GWS - GAIN picks 19 & 21; LOSE Tomlinson (GWS keep pick 10)
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I see the Luke Parker to Richmond (made-up) rumours are still doing the rounds lol.
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/186491_ac402c899315f74fbbb54d7f25e26e2e.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-364#post-41689072
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I see the Luke Parker to Richmond (made-up) rumours are still doing the rounds lol.
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/186491_ac402c899315f74fbbb54d7f25e26e2e.png)
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-open-discussion-rfc-forum.1114612/page-364#post-41689072
Luke Parker here is 750k a year. For 5 years. Are you sure you don't want to wear yellow and black?
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only reason to get rid of pick 12 for yarran is by getting pick 21 from them as well and then on trading 19 and 21 to gws for pick 10 as the points system may help
If GWS are open to it (they expect their academy kids to receive bids from clubs with early picks) then that would work.
Pick 10 1,395 pts
Picks 19 + 21 948 + 878 = 1,826 pts
Does the points system have a 'limiter' where there cannot be >250 point differential on points trade ?
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Just heard Ross Lyon is at etihad, and freo are trying to get McCarthy over the line.
I reckon we need to try to cash in on this opportunity.
We have picks 12 and 19.
Freo have some quality young mids
Gws ceo alledgedly promised us Treloar and didn't deliver
Let's work out a 3 way deal.
We get a gun mid, freo get Mccarthy and GWS get low picks to bank
Cmon idiots!!!!! Have some balls
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THE GREAT MCCARTHY
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Just heard Ross Lyon is at etihad, and freo are trying to get McCarthy over the line.
I reckon we need to try to cash in on this opportunity.
We have picks 12 and 19.
Freo have some quality young mids
Gws ceo alledgedly promised us Treloar and didn't deliver
Let's work out a 3 way deal.
We get a gun mid, freo get Mccarthy and GWS get low picks to bank
Cmon stuffers!!!!! Have some balls
12 and 19 for Fyfe?
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Just heard Ross Lyon is at etihad, and freo are trying to get McCarthy over the line.
I reckon we need to try to cash in on this opportunity.
We have picks 12 and 19.
Freo have some quality young mids
Gws ceo alledgedly promised us Treloar and didn't deliver
Let's work out a 3 way deal.
We get a gun mid, freo get Mccarthy and GWS get low picks to bank
Cmon stuffers!!!!! Have some balls
12 and 19 for Fyfe?
and conca :shh
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Twitter all a flutter again ;D
Reporting Aish to Pies, Bastinac to lions party of a 3 way deal
@superfooty: DONE DEAL: Aish to Pies in 3-way Coll/Bris/NM.
Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
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66 mins to go.
The manager of Greater Western Sydney forward Adam Tomlinson has arrived.
The Blues signalled their interest in him this morning, but indicated they would need to sort out a few things to get a pick in order to deal with the Giants.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/trade-period-live-the-final-few-hours
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11th hour talks between Blues and Suns over possible Andrejs Everitt trade. Might be tough to complete in time. More to come @RealFooty1
https://twitter.com/mickgleeson/status/657003871923863552
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Ok then........
I accept best case scenario is we've picked up
Jacob Townsend, maybe Yarran for 12 or 19 and a few retirees in the PSD. :clapping
Locked and loaded :shh
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Sounds like Blues need 12 for Tomlinson. Maybe we could cut out the middle man and just give GWS 12 ourselves for him and Yarran can go kick grass at Northern Blues for 12 months.
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Sounds like Blues need 12 for Tomlinson. Maybe we could cut out the middle man and just give GWS 12 ourselves for him and Yarran can go kick grass at Northern Blues for 12 months.
then pee off chaplin
play tomlinson chb
get yarren free next year
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Twitter all a flutter again ;D
Reporting Aish to Pies, Bastinac to lions party of a 3 way deal
@superfooty: DONE DEAL: Aish to Pies in 3-way Coll/Bris/NM.
Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Explanation of the Aish Trade
Collingwood Receive: Aish and pick No.34 and 53
Collingwood Lose: No.26, 28, 47 and a 2016 second-round 2016 pick (St Kilda)
Brisbane Receive: Bastinac, picks 38 and 40, a 2016 2nd-round pick (St K) and a 2016 third-round pick (North)
Brisbane Lose: Aish and pick No.17
North Melbourne Receive: No.17, 26, 28 and 47
North Melbourne Lose: Bastinac and picks No.34, 38, 40, 53 and its 2016 third-round pick
- Nick Bowen, AFL Website.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/532253926948840
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Under an hour to go .... tick tick tick .....
Trad period countdown clock: https://w2.countingdownto.com/1186972
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52 mins......
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Adam Tomlinson is now following Carlton on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/SENNews
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:facepalm
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As it stands, Tomlinson staying at GWS.
Giants rejected pick No. 11 (from Dogs) in deal to get him to Carlton. Blues hopes fading.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun
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More interesting Twitter developments as Adam Tomlinson unfollows Carlton.
LOL.
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;D
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Blues have traded away their second round picks 20 & 21.
AFL Trade paperwork lodged: Carlton trade r2 (curr 20), r2 on-traded (curr 21) & 2016 r4 to WBulldogs for r1 (curr 11) & 2016 rd3.
https://twitter.com/AFL_House
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Michael Talia is a Swan.
https://twitter.com/SENNews
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wgaf
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And that's all folks!
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.... :facepalm
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2 weeks of what throwing the line out lets look at this sides below us who made it happen there all good players
Collingwood, trelaor,aish,howe
Geelong- danger,selwood,smith,henderson
Yep we got Yarran and that's what all the recruiters will be saying we got our man but really he wanted to come to us not if we were chasing him
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Apparently we are winners in this trade period.
RICHMOND
IN: Jacob Townsend (GWS), Chris Yarran (Carlton)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 12, 52, 88, 106, 120, 124
The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran. They finally got their man this afternoon but will he be enough to get them over the hump?
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-winners-and-losers/story-fndv7pj3-1227578519929
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Apparently we are winners in this trade period.
RICHMOND
IN: Jacob Townsend (GWS), Chris Yarran (Carlton)
OUT: Nil
DRAFT PICKS: 12, 52, 88, 106, 120, 124
The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran. They finally got their man this afternoon but will he be enough to get them over the hump?
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-winners-and-losers/story-fndv7pj3-1227578519929
Haha, which NSW/Queenlander intern was responsible for that one line dribble?
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The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-winners-and-losers/story-fndv7pj3-1227578519929
LMAO.
Still close?
That's been three years now........
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"good players will just have to play better"
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The Tigers emphasised how close they felt they were to contending last season by pretty much focusing all their energy on securing Yarran.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-winners-and-losers/story-fndv7pj3-1227578519929
LMAO.
Still close?
That's been three years now........
Close enough to not get close to winning a final.
I'm sure Yarrans erratic consistency can be relied upon and will prove the difference when:-
We select older unfit hacks instead of inform youngsters again.
we play undersized defenders on oversized forwards despite having a taller side on the pitch, again.
Cotch kicks against the wind again.
Cotch gets 9 possessions again.
The whole leadership group goes missing for 4 quarters, again.
The whole fix points to Yarran.
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I just hope our young guns improve in leaps and bounds.
Lennon, Corey Ellis, Menadue and Butler need to step up because our trading won't fix our problems......
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they need to get a game, first :whistle
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I just hope our young guns improve in leaps and bounds.
Lennon, Corey Ellis, Menadue and Butler need to step up because our trading won't fix our problems......
And due to our lack of action, we are again left to rely on that word.
That word is not 'preparation', 'forsight', 'diligence' or 'nouse'. It is 'hope'.
Start praying people, more of the same coming up.
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they need to get a game, first :whistle
Ahead of Hardwick's Heroes aka Grigg, Houli, Batchelor & Hunt? No chance....
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Thanks for all the laughs over trade period guys.
It was thoroughly enjoyable seeing all the tanties, chicken littles and pants shitters.
Look forward to it next year.
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I sh@t my pants because I like the warm feeling Chucky, and there is nothing you or anybody else can do about it
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they need to get a game, first :whistle
Ahead of Hardwick's Heroes aka Grigg, Houli, Batchelor & Hunt? No chance....
Is Benny Colonel Wilhelm Klink?
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Thanks for all the laughs over trade period guys.
It was thoroughly enjoyable seeing all the tanties, chicken littles and pants pooters.
Look forward to it next year.
Yeah the club sure proved them wrong.....Yarran, Townsend and one pick in the top 50 in a pee weak draft! Woo hoo! :gotigers
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The other 17 clubs would be digesting the end results tonight in comparison to other clubs.
I'd suggest the majority would be chuckling to themselves at how we seemed to miss out again yet believe we are 'close' like our recruiters. In fact, it's our lack of tangible competition at trade time that makes it just that bit easier for the other clubs. They can't believe their luck.
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Don't worry we'll train the house down like never before this pre-season.....just heard we've already invested in a heavier punching bag to hang from that gantry we use for blocking, bumping & dodging practice...our FTF money hard at work.... :shh
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Thanks for all the laughs over trade period guys.
It was thoroughly enjoyable seeing all the tanties, chicken littles and pants pooters.
Look forward to it next year.
Yeah the club sure proved them wrong.....Yarran, Townsend and one pick in the top 50 in a pee weak draft! Woo hoo! :gotigers
I think the club do it to keep me entertained
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The other 17 clubs would be digesting the end results tonight in comparison to other clubs.
I'd suggest the majority would be chuckling to themselves at how we seemed to miss out again yet believe we are 'close' like our recruiters. In fact, it's our lack of tangible competition at trade time that makes it just that bit easier for the other clubs. They can't believe their luck.
:whistle